lifeblood: listlogs: 1995-09d


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date:         wed, 20 sep 1995 22:38:13 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509210341.aa075454896@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

so, the question should be, what prices have you been
> paying, or have you been quoted for the movie?  should i purchase the movie
> elsewhere, or is this a good price?
> what have you run into out there in our great free enterprise system?
> alycia
>

i don't want to raise any legal issues, but you could always just shell
oout 10 bucks or what ever it costs, and make a copy. i have 2 vcrs so i
just made a copy, all it takes is some audio-visual cables. gosh, i hope the
feds are reading this. just a suggestion,

derek :)
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date:         wed, 20 sep 1995 23:39:44 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509210341.aa075454896@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

actually, the reason for the big price difference is called rental
release and purchase release.  rental releases are intended to be
available for places that rent to buy, usually 6 months to a year before
purchase release, so they can get their money for the rentals.  movies
like bots tend to have this tiered-release system on video.  some films
never make it to lower tiers because of low popularity.

forrest gump, on the other hand, had a release direct to purchase price,
because it was guaranteed to make $x in sales due to its popularity.

if you wait a year, i can almost guarantee you that suncoast movie
company will be stocking bots for a reasonable price.

(interestingly enough, since there is nearly zero rental market for laser
discs, there are movies available for purchase on ld often a year before
you can buy it on vhs.)

graham ames             youngbear (irc)
mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu     kindness, joy, and friendship -- the sacred things

        white people are doing things in reverse.
        they think that by going into the sweatlodge
        or buying drums and rattles, they will become spiritual.
        not necessarily.  instead, if you live in a good way,
        you are spiritual.  then, the ceremonies come
        as a means of expression.
                                -rolling thunder

_in the middle of this road we call our life_ -- james w. jones
_care of the soul_ & _soulmates_  -- thomas moore
_life after god_  -- douglas coupland
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 00:52:33 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julie l atchison <jla954@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie l atchison <jla954@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
subject:      bad  boys on the side
x-to:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>

oooooohhh, derek--you are the reason all those right-wing reactionaries in
congress want to censor the internet. bad, bad, bad, boy! <g>  actually, i
was going to make the same suggestion to alycia myself....

-julie


> so, the question should be, what prices have you been
>> paying, or have you been quoted for the movie?  should i purchase the movie
>> elsewhere, or is this a good price?
>> what have you run into out there in our great free enterprise system?
>> alycia
>>
>
>i don't want to raise any legal issues, but you could always just shell
>oout 10 bucks or what ever it costs, and make a copy. i have 2 vcrs so i
>just made a copy, all it takes is some audio-visual cables. gosh, i hope the
>feds are reading this. just a suggestion,
>
>derek :)
>
>
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date:         wed, 20 sep 1995 17:55:12 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              akinhe@lfc.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         heather akin <akinhe@lfc.edu>
organization: lake forest college
subject:      re: my t-shirt

        i'm new to the mailing list and don't know exactly what the t-shirts
are, but anything ig i'm sure i'll love.  please send information on
price and how to get one (and maybe what they look like).  thanks!

heather
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 03:25:22 -0400
reply-to:     jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
subject:      re: t-shirt again
in-reply-to:  your message of "wed, 20 sep 1995 22:47:19 edt."
              <199509210348.waa23662@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

jon miner <jjminer@facstaff.wisc.edu> writes:
> front:
> folkisgruven

i'd just like to confirm something..

does this mean it just says "folkisgruven" in plain black text?  or is
there some graphic that goes along with it?  (i know i've seen a
simple graphic that went along with the "fukingruven" logo)

     -jude
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 00:35:17 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
subject:      re: gotta tend the earth...
x-to:         kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk>

right on kirsti!

at 12:54 am 9/20/95 +0100, kirsti reeve wrote:

>why don't we all decide to do something
>positive for our communities on a specific day - help out at a shelter; plant
>a tree; visit someone in hospital; find out about native american groups in
>your area;... actually doing something concrete, something that puts the
>principles that the girls write about into action.
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 01:13:47 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              atlas.earthlink.net@*.bitnet
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         atlas.earthlink.net@*.bitnet
subject:      re: boys on the side - prices?
x-to:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>

at 10:41 pm 9/20/95 -0500, you wrote:

>i asked why boys on the side cost $100 when movies like
>forrest gump only cost $25.00 and they said it was because
>the movie was not that popular --

actually, they price movies into two catagories.  priced to "sell"
and priced to "rent".

"forrest gump" was considered a high "sell-through" title, meaning
alot of people would want to buy it.  "boys on the side" although
a good movie, was considered a "rental title" meaning alot of people
would want to watch it rather than buy it.  either way the video store
would have purchased the same number of copies whether it was $100 or
$20.  i'm refering to "chain stores" not "local mom & pop stores".

movie companies do this because they want to get the most money out
of a title in it's initial rental release period.  this is usually
the first three to six months, when a title is most popular.

on a positive note, i will guarantee you that "boys on the side" will be
repriced for "sell through" within six months of it's release date.  that
is pretty much standard practice in the video industry.

gee...i guess my background is showing   :-)

michael
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 04:19:20 -0400
reply-to:     jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
subject:      admin: read this now!!

there seems to be some kind of f**k up that is causing people to be
sent mail from lists that they are not subscribed to.  this has
happened to me and 2 other ig folks, so it may be happening to all of
us.

if it is happening to you please don't mail me or the netspace admins
(also me :) about it.  we know and are fixing the problem.

i'm really sorry about this..  you may notice some delay in mail
delivery while it's being fixed.

    -jude
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 11:26:16 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      rec collector ig article

picked up a copy of record collector with mr. neil hunt's article on ig--
interesting and very well written!  costs $5.50 over here.  well worth it :)

jude

p.s. ring them bells out on tuesday!
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 09:04:13 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "barry fujii (till 6-30-96)" <barry@albus.arc.nasa.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "barry fujii (till 6-30-96)" <barry@albus.arc.nasa.gov>
subject:      remove me

remove me from your crazy mail list!

barry@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov

--
barry fujii                     e-mail: barry@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
http://ic-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/neuro/people/barry/barry.html
he never is alone that is accompanied with noble thoughts.--john fletcher
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 11:46:29 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "lori h. levy" <llevy03@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "lori h. levy" <llevy03@emory.edu>
subject:      rock for aids t-shirts

hi everyone,

this may be a duplication for a lot of people, but i noticed that several
newbies on the list have been asking about t-shirts, so i thought i'd
jump in again with another offer of the rock for aids t-shirts.

these are the shirts that were sold at the april 29th benefit show at the
roxy in atlanta.  they're $10 each (tax-deductible too!).

front: "the billings house" written in black with a red ribbon and
the words "faith hope love" underneath.

back: "rock for aids: a benefit for the creation of the billings house
(with red ribbon) a charitable aids hospice for all people with aids."
"featuring:
rock-a-teens
viva la diva
mary fortune express
smoke
gracie moon
kristen hall - cooper tisdale
the indigo girls"

along the right side there's a cool drawing of an acoustic guitar.  :)

it's a really nice shirt and i know there are some of you out there who'd
want it for your collection...

and, to follow up on the post about "doing something" -- a contribution
to the billings house counts!

there are 15 left: 14 large, 1 x-large.

please e-mail me if interested and i'll give you the details about where
to send your check...

thanks, folks...

:)
lori
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 11:06:06 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              molly bancroft <lift@mindspring.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         molly bancroft <lift@mindspring.com>
subject:      bert bert bert

hey, bert

i tried sending a message to the address via rutgers - i must have typed it
in wrong.. ooops!
just wanted to let you know that the november tour is "on hold" - yes, again!
i'll fill you in on some developing news once i get back from virginia,
sunday or monday.
don't book anything, and i'll catch up to you soon.

julie
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 09:58:05 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              karen mcelhaney <km5@ornl.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         karen mcelhaney <km5@ornl.gov>
subject:      re: complicated review...
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>

>>
>> and the photographs are interesting, mostly because the one on the inside
that
>> actually appears twice (once in b&w opposite the disk, and once in color in
>> the fold out section) you know, the one of them playing at some outdoor fest.
>> so i have 5 x 7 of that exact shot. i think it's probably from newport in '94
>> maybe? does anyone remember what they were wearing last year? then at
least we
>>
>
>i have photos from every year they have played newport.  asmuch as the
>background looks right, it doesntmatch any year that i have.  amy's hair
>was much shorter in '94 than the picture in the disc.
>
>amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
>pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
>                              /
>the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
>
>

what is complicated girls?  where can i get it?

thanks!!!!

--------------------------
karen mcelhaney (email: km5@ornl.gov)
lockheed martin energy systems
bldg. 9102-1  rm 23  ms 8038
oak ridge,  tn  37831-8038
phone: (615) 576-6110
fax:   (615) 574-7879
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 10:11:34 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              molly bancroft <lift@mindspring.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         molly bancroft <lift@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>

hi, alycia-

just a little note...i used to work at blockbuster and i may be able to
shed a little light on the subject.  when movies are first released on
video for sale, they all start at about $98 or $99, with the exception of
certain hugely successful films that they want to market to death and sell
millions of copies. if you are patient and wait 2 or 3 months, the retail
price should come down to about $25-$30.

hope that helps

jc
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 10:04:11 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of wed, 20 sep 1995 22:41:47 -0500

i can sort of answer this question, because i had the dubious honor of
working for blockbuster video for a month, earlier this year when i was
living in atlanta.

anyway, the movies that are priced at 29.95, 24.95, and 19.95 are printed
specifically to be sold, so millions are made, where others are only printed
to be rentals, and much fewer are made.  a movie is only printed to be sold,
if it was a huge hit in the theatres, or if it is seen as having a cult
following with a large audience of video tape buyers.  i.e. forrest gump and
a few years ago, the rocky horror picture show.  this is a special promotion
and blockbuster makes their money by selling lots of tapes.  when i worked
there it was right before gump was released on videotape, and every person
who walked in had to be greeted with: hi there, would you like to pre-order a
copy of forrest gump today for only 19.95 and receive a free copy of gumpisms
with your purchase.  it was hell!!!  anyway, boys on the side was not nearly
big enough, nor was it populare enough to warrant a special promotion.  most
movies like this, which aren't sold by a special promotion cost anywhere from
$60-200.  i would not consider $100 a fair price for this movie by any
stretch of the imagination.  then again, i think it is crazy for people to
pay $200 for reverse one live.  wait until it has been out on video for a
while.  when a movie firsdt comes out on video, you will usually see about 20
copies of it a t a blockbuster video, but two months later, there are usually
only four or five on the shelves.  the others are sold as used, and usually
only cost between $10-20, and are usually in good condition.  so, my advice
is to wait a few months and get it used, or better yet, wait for it to come
on cable and tape it off the tv.  i wouldn't pay more than the price of a
blank tape for boys on the side, because i thought it was extremely average.
the only remotely interesting moments were those that ig appeared on and
those were too few and far between to have any real value.  anyway, i knew i
wasn't going to be able to get through this post withoutr taking my shots at
the movie.  i hope this has been helpful for those of you who actually
considered paying $100 for this piece of trash.  have a nice day.

peace pops

bert
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 09:08:06 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              david carrel <carrel@cisco.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         david carrel <carrel@cisco.com>
subject:      re: ig's in the bathroom
x-to:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of "mon, 18 sep 1995 05:16:41 pdt."
              <199509181216.faa19437@ix6.ix.netcom.com>

take me off your mailing list.  i did not ask to be on it and i do not
appreciate being added against my wishes.

dave

> you wrote:
>
>
> >        listen y'all, we've got to get used to sharing these type of
> >stories because after "1200 curfews" and "watershed" come out, we
> ain't
> >gonna have nothing to talk about until 1997 when it comes to new ig
> >music.  as sad as it seems, we're going to be dwelling on what type of
> >shoes they're wearing by this time next year...
> >
> >
> .........well actually, amy has this pair of american flag converse
> high top tennis shoes, they are red and white striped on the bottom
> half and blue with big white stars on the upper half.  i was standing
> about 1 foot from where she was standing after watching a local band
> play so i took the opportunity to say "where did you get those shoes?"
> she said that someone gave them to her.  i asked "they look like
> something out of the seventies and she said "no, they are new, i think
> that they were from some sort of gulf war promotion or something."
>
>
> .......so um, the next tour starts when?         :>
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 09:38:18 pdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: something to talk about
x-to:         owner-indigo-girls@netspace.org

how about a tape trading circle?  their music really should be archived
and enjoyed after the performance is over.

who wants to get started on this?

-ron
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from: bertin lefkovic  <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls  <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
subject: something to talk about
date: monday, september 18, 1995 3:55pm

well, if we are so desperate for something to talk about, i would like to
bring up my projects gaain, and see if there is any interest in them.  i
first posted these ideas during the summer, and there was a significant
response.  i posted  them again a few weeks ago, after everyone had returned
from school, and this time, there was very little response.  i know that just
because something is important to me, it isn't necessarily going to be
important to everyone else, but, the way i figure it, a mailing list like
this can be very effective in mobilizing people for a common cause, so i
would like to try to do that here.

i want to start a letter writing campaign to ben & jerry's to have a flavor
created named after indigo girls in some way, shape, or form.  i previously
proposed indigo swirls crunch which would be vanilla/vanilla bean ice cream
with chocolate covered blueberries, grape nuts, and blueberry swirls
throughout.  this is just one idea.  i am sure that we can think of several
others.  it doesn't necessarily have to center around indigo girls like this
one does.  you could use the name of an album or a song and create a flavor
out of it.  be creative.  be imaginitive.  be corny.  be dorky.  be stupid.
be whatever, but submit an idea; any idea, and after i've received a bunch,
i'll post them publicly and we can vote.  if you post your ideas to the list,
you might inspire an idea for someone else or someone could improve on
someone else's idea.  also, if you can only think of a name, but not the
ingredients, that is fine.  we can brainstorm and come up with something.  or
if you can only think of a group of ingredients, but not a name, that is fine
as well.  i am interesting in getting as many responses as possible, so no
matter how silly or outrageous your ideas might be, please submit them.  at
the very least, i am sure that it'll be good for a few laughs, which is
always a good thing.

the second idea i am not as devoted to, so if it doesn't happen, i won't be
too unhappy.  this was the idea of doing a jcs tribute as our next indicated.
even though it is really not an ig creation, i know that the cd and the live
shows have brought a lot of us a lot of joy, and i think it would be fun to
try to recreate a little bit of the magic that ig and their friends gave to
us.  i previously proposed people on the list and their friends who aren't
get together with others who live relatively near them in groups and record a
few songs each.  i don't know how many groups we can put together, but i am
confident that we can get enough to cover most of the songs on the cd.  the
toughest thing is getting sheet music for those who don't already know how to
play the songs and aren't advanced enough to improvise, which i imagine
speaks for about 99% of us (i am definitely included in that figure).  i
think the best part about this is that it will provide an opportunity for
those of us who are less talented to express our love of the music in this
way.  remember, the tracks do not have to be professional quality.  we are
not try ing to get record deals here.  we are only looking to have a lot of
fun with some music that we all love and cherish.  this means that my lousy
voice and i will have the chance to be heard doing "pilate's dream" outside
of my car or shower.  speaking of singing in the shower.  i know that i am
getting away from the point of my post, but i would like to ask a stupid
question.  how many of us sing in the shower?  how many of us sing ig in the
shower? and for those that do, what ig songs do you find yourself singing
most often in the shower?  whoops, that was three questions.  just a little
side thread.  i hope these questions don't get a bigger response than the
task at hand, which was... ?  i think you all get the point.  post your ideas
about these projects and maybe effective ways of making them happen.  i look
forward to hearing from y'all (another example of the effect ig has on this
northerner).

peace pops

bert

i forgot one last thing.  i'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to
the disney corporation for my allegations that they were an
ultra-conservative company with a radical right wing agenda.  i was gravely
misinformed.  i realized this today when i went in this store that had a lot
of radical right/christian coalition propaganda on display.  i was pretty
disgusted by its presence in this store which i had patronized in the past.
my first instinct was to leave and never go back, but fortunately, i decided
to look at some of the trash that was being spouted.  it was while looking at
the various fliers and photocopied sheets that i came upon one sheet that was
viciously attacking disney for all of its "anti-family" activites.  the focus
of the attacks were on miramax films, a subsidiary of disney which has
recently come out with films like priest, kids, and pulp fiction, and the
gay/lesbian days at disney world.  after reading all of the misinformation on
this sheet, i have come to look at disney completely differently.  heck, if
they can piss off the rr/cc this much, then they must have some very good
qualities.  looking forward to october 15 with an extra-special zeal now.

if anybody wants copies of any of the rr/cc's propaganda, so you can see for
yourself what kind of hateful, mean-spirited, and ignorant people they truly
are, e-mail me privately and i'll make arrangements to get this trash to you.

have a nice day
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 14:35:16 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              smcgill818@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephen mcgill <smcgill818@aol.com>
subject:      re: boys on the side

granted, the $100 is expensive, but you won't find it much cheaper.  the
person you talked to was incorrect in saying that theprice is a result of
lack of popularity.  here's the way it works:  when a film is first put on
video, the company wants to gererate video rentals, so the jack the price up.
after a few months, when they figure they've gotten as much as they can from
rentals, theylower the price to $15-20.  gump and movies like that
arereleased cheap because the company figures a lot of people would buy it.
that's the story.  you'll just have to wait if you want a cheaper price.

stephen
p.s.  i work at a video sales store, so i'm not just hypothesizing.  i get
asked about this all the time :)
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date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 18:55:43 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      lift
x-cc:         atlartists@aol.com

i would like to introduce everyone on these lists to a new band from atlanta
called lift.  actually, there are not that new.  they have been in existence
for about a year, and they have recently completed work on their debut cd.
the cd will be released in late fall or early winter.  if you want a good
taste of what this band is all about, there are sampler tapes and t-shirts
available at rainy day records.  talk to perry, and he will give you all of
the details.  if you were at rdr's new year's party this past year, you would
have seen them.  i think they are one of the best bands to come out of our
favorite musical city since the duo that put the place on the musical map.
(i know i don't have to say who that is)

lift is:

molly bancroft - lead vocals and rhythm guitar
julie clark - bass guitar
simone simonton - drums
david patterson - lead guitar

check this band out.  they will be out touring very soon.

peace pops

bert
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 16:55:02 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.811692251.indigboy@er6.rutgers.edu>

  a movie is only printed to be sold,
> if it was a huge hit in the theatres, or if it is seen as having a cult
> following with a large audience of video tape buyers.  i.e. forrest gump and
> a few years ago, the rocky horror picture show.  this is a special promotion

actually, the first video release of rhps _was_ a rental-release priced
at $99.  i know, because i was thinking of buying one.  that was a
special case, because they sold a bunch to private owners, despite the
high price.  after 12 months (nearly to the day) the price dropped.

graham ames             youngbear (irc)
mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu     kindness, joy, and friendship -- the sacred things

        white people are doing things in reverse.
        they think that by going into the sweatlodge
        or buying drums and rattles, they will become spiritual.
        not necessarily.  instead, if you live in a good way,
        you are spiritual.  then, the ceremonies come
        as a means of expression.
                                -rolling thunder

_in the middle of this road we call our life_ -- james w. jones
_care of the soul_ & _soulmates_  -- thomas moore
_life after god_  -- douglas coupland
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 16:17:43 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509210341.aa075454896@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

alycia...
        just be patient...the way the entire stupid home video system
works is that most movies are released and priced outrageously ($89 -
$100) and then are supposedly "re-released" and priced substantially
lower after six months.  it's pretty stupid, i know, but i think boys on
the side was a big enough success for them to do the same thing.
        i think this is just so video rental places will make some kind
of money instead of everyone going out and buying it first.  they never
do this with laserdisc (boys on the side was priced at $39 the first day
it was released on laserdisc) because the market for rental isn't strong,
unlike video tape.
        hope i was of some help.  btw, i just found emily in one of the
closing scenes when whoopi sings "you got it" to mary louise.  i saw amy
full view, but you only see emily's shirt.  damn...

        anyone know if they release a version of "take a walk on the wild
side" that ig supposedly did with whoopi, but which was cut out of the movie?

love, peace, and coke over pepsi anyday...
teri
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 16:43:18 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      more irrelevant ig chatter
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509181634.maa80640@ns5-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

hey lori and all,
        the servers crashed at my school, but i'm back and wanted to
share more desperate ig info...

        heard from someone on irc that amy drinks pete's wicked ale or
samuel adams while emily sticks to bud light.

        anyone confirm or refute???

        btw, try drinking a nice cold one to the new mongrels cd.  they
go well together...


sinking to an all time new low...
teri


"i'm not dead, yet"
        nm
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 19:57:54 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: something to talk about
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>

**wow, that was _weird_. i'm glad jude posted a note to tell us what was going
on because i was really freaked out when i started getting mail from some
totally unrelated, and suspiciously raunchy list. yikes! who the hell are
these people and what the hell are they doing on my computer!!  i also noticed
that somehow i managed to receive monday's mail _today_ after i got tuesday
and wednesday's mail.  really weeeeiiiirrrdd.****

but everything seems to be just fine now.

i also wanted to respond to bert's post. i'm totally interested in trying to
do the jcs album. i have a _small_ amount of sound equipment we could use, and
i'd love to sing on it, but i don't think i'd be much help instrumental-wise.
that's the problem we're going to have. the music isn't trivial. but i know
there are some of you out there in the pa/nj area who are interested, because
we talked about it before. we even had some folks calling dibs on songs. so
let's go here. pick a couple of favorites, and let's see what we can do.
personally, i'd love to do a good group song like "the last supper" or
"hosanna"


oh my god wait, as i type this they're talking about a new "buzz cut" they
apparently played last nite. get this....."bury my heart at wounded knee!!" by
ig!! a girl just called in and asked about it and asked about whether the new
cd coming out is a double...and i didn't hear the rest because i was too busy
typing this...idiot. they're not playing it again, though. but they mentioned
it!!! cooooooolll!!!!  oh, i might also want to mention that i'm talking about
y-100 radio in philly.


sorry, where was i. oh, let's just get some people to check in with their
interest in this project. if you posted before about it, do so again.
we know bert and i are interested, but we can't do it alone!!
while we're all trying to record for i3, we might as well try jcs too, or we
can hold off till after i3, whatever.

and the ice cream thing. yes! let's do it. unfortunately i have very little to
offer in the way of suggestions, other than maybe we should include blueberry
swirls, but not choc. covered blueberries. other than that, i really like
bert's suggestion. and i'm ready to write a letter to b & j's as soon as we
come to a consensus on the flavor/name subject. later y'all.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo


lorinda wright           "...on a kind of a telephone line through time.
lw01@lehigh.edu           and the voice on the other end comes like a long
lehigh university         lost friend." -e.s.
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 21:21:42 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bkrbkr@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "<maggie e. poulos>" <bkrbkr@aol.com>
subject:      re: more irrelevant ig chatter

i was backstage at the tower theater in philly and amy was drinking a regular
old budweiser:)  that's all i know:)
-maggie
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 21:29:11 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              erica spizz <espizz@simons-rock.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         erica spizz <espizz@simons-rock.edu>
subject:      re: ani this saturday? (north hampton)
x-to:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509152313.taa16219@cis-ts4-slip6.cis.brown.edu>

on fri, 15 sep 1995, jude shabry wrote:

> i was wondering if anyone else on will be going to see ani difranco
> this sunday at lupo's in providence.  maybe we can meet or something..
> :)
>
>    -jude
>
ditto for sat. at smith college.

erica
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 21 sep 1995 23:42:10 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "(eric l. nerino)" <nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net>
subject:      i'd scream for ............
in-reply-to:  <199509212357.taa98570@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

hey!

>and the ice cream thing. yes! let's do it.

i concur........i like 'indigo swirls'.....vanilla with raspberry swirls...chock
full of wild berries.....:) mmmmmmm

peace.....smiles

...eric
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 00:04:29 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
subject:      ig on the irc

hey, everyone!  i've seen some references to the irc lately - nicks and
little factoids found on it.  this all caught my eye because i just got
hooked up!  the problem though is that i have been looking for any and
all ig stuff that might be there and have come up empty-handed.  does
anybody know of ig-related channels????
please post it or e-mail me privately!  :)
thanks,
jenn
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 03:21:56 +2000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              srohse@dafbbs.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         srohse@dafbbs.com
organization: infomaniac's dial-a-file bbs
subject:      light bulb joke

some friends and i have a running joke that's a variation on the old "how many
does it take to change a light bulb?" saw. it comes up for all occasions that
call for poking fun at ourselves. several weeks ago it was my turn to burn. i
had mentioned ig just once too often for their taste and so someone asked: how
many ig fans does it take to change a light bulb? some answers were so funny,
we nearly fell off the bar stool laughing; some were even funny the next day,
so i thought i'd post them. but, please, read on only if you can laugh at
yourself:

*four. one to change the light bulb. three to argue over which ig song best
represents the moment.
*depends on how many have aol accounts (ouch!)
*none, if it's an amy fan. amy fans prefer the dark. (can anyone think of one
for emily?)
*a whole bunch. one to change the bulb; the rest to look for the single thread
for the black.
*why just change one bulb? let's change all the bulbs everywhere!

this is my last post as i am signing off the list in a (futile?) attempt to
manage my time more effectively. thanks to you all for sharing your
appreciation of ig, especially to those who took the time to correspond with me
privately. best wishes y'all,

shanta rohse

"one can survive everything except death, and live down everything except a
good reputation"--oscar wilde, a woman of no importance

=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 10:04:38 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      ig article by n. hunt

i posted a note earlier this week about buying a copy of the ig article in
record collector at tower records and how i thought it was a great article by
neil but never saw it on the list.  perhaps it was a sent elsewhere in the
recent mail suffle.  in any event, want everyone to know it was a very
*comprehensive* discussion of a&e to date and they should make tracks to
tower right now and buy it: $5.50

as neil said:
>record collector, issue #193 (sept 1995)
>(cover has elvis costello, edwyn collins, u2, pete best after the beatles,
>rolling stones 60's cd's, the charlatans, monty python, the pretty things,
>the honeycombs, rock 'n' roll ep's, and indigo girls...

>three page ig's article, a career overview, with illustrations (blue food +)
>discography, etc. the usual rc article...

>written by...well, ok, i wrote the thing, but modesty prevents me from
>saying how i think it's pretty darn good, and provides something for all...

i do too. :)

l8r, jude
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 11:35:18 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>
subject:      kirsti's idea
x-cc:         kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl..ac.uk>

kirst reeve said on wed, sep 20, 1995 :

>i have been thinking about the whole "playing an ig song at the same time
>everywhere" idea that someone here has proposed, and wondering why my gut
>reaction to it was somewhat less than total enthusiasm.... and i guess it
>comes down to this:

>for me, the music of the indigo girls is about doing something, about change,
>about love, about hope, about possibility. ....

>rather than listening to an ig song, why don't we all decide to do something
>positive for our communities on a specific day - help out at a shelter; plant
>a tree; visit someone in hospital; find out about native american groups in
>your area;... actually doing something concrete, something that puts the
>principles that the girls write about into action.

i didn't even realize how i felt about the cybercast thing until i read kirsti's
post, then i realized i was saying things to my monitor like, "yeah" , "what she
said"....

i too was not enthused about the plan when it only involved playing a particular
song at a particular time. it's a perfectly fine idea, just not one that tickled
my fancy.  but i definitely think kirsti is on to something.  the really sweet
part of what she described is that it doesn't require anything but the
participation of those who want to, and people who decided to do something could
share their indigo-inspired experience with the list.  i think it's a great idea
(bet you couldn't tell, huh?)

just for the record, and because i am cc'ing this to kirsti, i would like to say
that i didn't quite understand the reference she, and another later poster, made
about the list being full of flames - i know there have been some notable
execptions over the past 6 months or so i've been here, but i think this list
has been a darn pleasant place to be the last few months (of course, i do suffer
from sms - selective memory syndrome, so who knows!)

lynn
74603.3513@compuserve.com
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date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 11:55:26 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      re: native americans on list

lynne wrote:

>... but i definitely think kirsti is on to something.  the really sweet
>part of what she described is that it doesn't require anything but the
>participation of those who want to, and people who decided to do something
>could share their indigo-inspired experience with the list.  i think it's a
>great idea (bet you couldn't tell, huh?)


i know, from our discussions of the girl's recent tour, that there are some
native americans on this list :)  come out, come out, delurk, and give us
some suggestions on kirsti's idea...  jude
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 09:39:16 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      kirsti's idea
in-reply-to:  <950922153517_74603.3513_ehh135-3@compuserve.com>

amen to lynn, and to others who posted in regards to kirsti's 'parting
shot'. i, too, was reading her post and saying 'amen'.
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 13:30:46 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: ig on the irc
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 00:04:29 -0500

sorry. i just started this and am clueless as to how to go about doibg
anything-  if you fing out, though, could you please email me? thanks!! have
a dandy day!
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 13:34:59 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: ig article by n. hunt
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 10:04:38 -24000

thanks for the info! can we buy the magazine anywhere besides tower records? huh
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 13:37:56 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: kirsti's idea
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 11:35:18 edt

you seem really nice, and so does that idea... i just started this list-
today is my first day using it, but it seems really cool so far... if you
know of how i could get onto more specific info about them, could you email
me, please? have a dandy day!!!!!
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 12:05:36 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
subject:      color me grey and lift

        hey everyone...  i've been off the list for a few months now.
did i miss any major discovery, besides the spirit of '76 (of which the
ig's track could have been left out and i would have been happy) the
out loud and the upcoming live album?

        ok, can someon help me out; i am slightly confused. about a week ago i
had dinner with someone who has an original color me grey.  after looking
at it and listening to it, i realized that it is not the same color me
grey that i thought i had.  then i began to think about it, "well maybe
the one i have just has more tracks on it."  but then where would the
extra tracks that i have, on my cmg, come from?  so here's what i'm gonna
do..  i'm gonna put 2 lists.. one of the actual cmg and one of the
copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy-etc. one that i thought was color me grey.
(btw.. sidenote.. the copyright on the cmg is 1982)

i thought this was cmg                          the real cmg


scared to say we're friends                     just passing time
nashville                                       no way out
fallin' star                                    losing touch
carry me away                                   sweet gypsy
anyway, i love you                              the distance remains the same
clues to you                                    i'll be there
always be there                                 slow moving sun
color me grey                                   thursday afternoon
free through eternity
passin time
losin touch
ease the pain
anyone but myself


        so, does anyone else have the cmg on the left column?  i mean,
it's not a huge deal, but if anyone knows where the rest of those songs
are from, it'd be nice to know.
        oh yeah.. here's a description of what the  color me grey tape
looked like:
        the j-card was a picture of amy sitting under a tree, playing her
guitar, with her loyal cat sitting next to her.  btw, it's a black and
white picture...  then, when amy printed the picture, she left some white
space below the picture for the song titles, etc.  basically, the j-card
is on photo paper, with the song titles, album tile, etc, hand-written on it.
i was told that there are only 7 original cmg tapes out there.
        anyway.. this may be old news, but it was new for me, so i
thought i'd share.

        tricia :)

ps.. nigc.. the band _lift_ (molly bancroft, julie clark, simone
simonton, david patterson) will be releasing their first cd in the next
few months. (i think.)  anyway, i think that it is one of the best albums
i've ever heard.  i believe that there are some 3-song tapes at rdr, which
are definatly worth checking out.
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 15:29:52 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: boys on the side
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of wed, 20 sep 1995 22:41:47 -0500

popularity has nothing to do with it.  pulp fiction was just released for
100$.  as far as i can see, how a movie company determines a price seems
rather random.  some movies cost twenty and some cost 100$, and there isn't
any in between.  in about six months the price of pulp fiction will be
lowered to twenty, and you can expect the same for bots.  if you can't wait
till then, look in the used bins for copies.  it would be impossible to find
a non-bootlegged copy of bots for twenty if that's the movie company price.
blockbuster is not ripping you off, they're just charging what they have to charge.
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 15:29:34 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      cmg

>(btw.. sidenote.. the copyright on the cmg is 1982)

wow...that must have been senior year in high school or freshman
year at college for her...

thanks for the interesting info.
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 13:18:00 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      more complicated girls

perry at rdr has just called me.  he has just received 200 copies of
complicated girls in teh stre. this could be the last of them so
get them while they are hot ifyou missed the first go around.

that number again is 1-800-636-6166
and e-mail is rainy@mindspring.com

cost of this disc is $24.95 plus shipping.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
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date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 16:23:14 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
subject:      aarrgghhh!!!
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.950922120012.24054a-100000@henson.cc.wwu.edu>

i've been into 2 record stores today, and both had the release date for
'1200 curfews' as 10/10/95.  i told both that i thought it was the 3rd,
and they said that no, as far as they knew, it was the 10th.  please,
someone, reassure me that they don't know muich and it *is* the 3rd (i've
got a mid-term that day, and could do with a reward for sitting it!)>

          rebecca.

     *****************************************************************

     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 22:24:58 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu

hey :)

(and hey trish too...:):) )

from what i can see my guess is that there are two color me greys...i mean,
the longer one, the one that's listed in the discography (from 1985) could be
an altered version of the original...

'cause i somehow knew that 'sweet gypsy' and 'anyway, i love you' were the same
song (they're both from the lyric) some time ago...maybe it was kirsti that
told me...anyway...by the same principle 'no way out' is also a lyric from one
of the songs on the longer version (scared to say we're friends??)

whatever, apart from saying i'd love a copy of the 'original' (hey, don't you
owe me a cd tricia :):) ??!!??) then i guess the info that is in the discog on
the original is from somewhere reliable, so...who knows??

*grumbles* shoulda changed the deadline on my ig's record collector article sos
i'd have had a chance to interview them...bummer :p:p:):)

there you go...i go now...tiiired...hungry...braindead...

@}--,--'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 16:14:18 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              albuquerque hydroponics and lighting <ahl@swcp.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         albuquerque hydroponics and lighting <ahl@swcp.com>
subject:      my complicated girls copy

hey y'all,

     i got my copy of complicated girls the other day and the last song on
my cd skips, especially amy's monologue about her high school reunion
before the song.  i've only been playing it here at work on the computer cd
so maybe it is just that, but i was wondering if anyone else was having
this problem?

                                       --sunny

albuquerque hydroponics and lighting
1003-a  san mateo se
albuquerque, nm  87108
1-800-753-4617
fax 1-505-255-3677
e-mail  ahl@swcp.com
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 10:28:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deb <indigo@clark.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: melissa ferrick

be nice!! <emjay@netcom.com> wrote:

>subscribe to the ferrick mailing list: ferrick@vm1.mcgill.ca

i suspect that's the list address and they wouldn't appreciate
administrative requests there.  try ferrick-request@vm1.mcgill.ca.

--
deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 09-22 10:28 est \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo
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=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 11:36:23 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.950922120012.24054a-100000@henson.cc.wwu.edu>

on fri, 22 sep 1995, tricia wrote:

hallo tricia... welcome back!

>         ok, can someon help me out; i am slightly confused. about a week ago i
> had dinner with someone who has an original color me grey.  after looking
> at it and listening to it, i realized that it is not the same color me
> grey that i thought i had.  then i began to think about it, "well maybe

[....]

>         so, does anyone else have the cmg on the left column?  i mean,
> it's not a huge deal, but if anyone knows where the rest of those songs
> are from, it'd be nice to know.

i have the one on the left column... i thought that *was* colour me
grey!  but if we haven't got cmg, what the heck *have* we got?

hmm... a thought, on the b side of my cmg tape is a bunch of songs
titled 'folk song demos'.  maybe the songs on the first side are amy
demo songs too.

btw, is 'folk song demos' a "real" tape or one that some bootlegger
somewhere put together?

'we must sink the censorship to find... what truth is...'
can you tell what i'm listening to? :)

sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
piquet the cat (piquet@geko.com.au).  aka sherlyn koo (sherlyn@geko.com.au).
"do you wonder why passion's always half impossibility
but lovers that we lose we never dare forget
maybe someday i'll see you in december or in may
in the graveyard of st mary's of regret..."             - susan werner
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 22 sep 1995 22:51:52 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              smcgill818@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephen mcgill <smcgill818@aol.com>
subject:      re: t-shirt update

yes!!!!!
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 01:11:37 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              tim cox <t330059@univscvm.bitnet>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         tim cox <t330059@univscvm.bitnet>
subject:      gifs and jpegs

hello all igers,

                i have just entered the www world and am looking for gifs and
or jpegs of the igs.  can someone out there send me some addresses please?  tha
nks in advance. tim
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 00:25:05 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      ig equipment assessment

hey all,
        trying to kill sometime so i don't smoke another cigarette.
thought i'd go through a bit of a synopsis of amy and emily's equipment.
i ordered the back issue article of ig in acoustic guitar magazine (jude:
articles on the way tomorrow!) and it made a small reference to the
guitars they used.  then the article said to check teh "gear box", which
is a listing later in the magazine, the page they didn't send me.  but i
called the publishing company, and this sweet lady got the back issue
from upstairs at the office and read it to me over the phone.  she even
gave me a 1-800 number, since i told her i was calling direct, and asked
me to call again with the toll free thing to save me money...

enough of that.  here's what i got:

main guitars:
        both use martin j-40s (late 80s models).  amy's has a black finish
        and emily's has the blond finish.
back up guitars:
        anyone who's seen them live lately can see they've got a billion
        guitars, but this article was around the nis time.  what was
        listed was that amy has a d-35 herringbone early 70s model,
        another j-40m, and a 1939 o-18 spare - all are martin models.
        emily just had a 1962 martin d-35 model mentioned, but i remember
        from a more recent guitar player article, she purchased another
        martin d-35 (or 45) that was an anniversary model recommended to
        her by david crosby during the rop sessions.  that martin model
        is her new favorite...
strings:
        simple.  emily uses d'addario light gauge and amy uses martin
        medium gauge - medium because she strums harder and is prone to
        break more strings that emily...
guitar extras:
        their picks are dunlop tortex mediums.  they just say that they're
        the "yellow ones", but i use the same pick and i think the gauge is
        somewhere around .74mm or something like that.  and the capos
        they use are shubbs.
real technical stuff:
        the martin models they stick with aren't equipped with
        electronics, so they get some installed.  the girls use lloyd
        baggs pickups (piezos that rest in the saddle of the guitar), go
        thru passac preamps, and use a parametric eq system to fight the
        feedback that acoustic-electric guitars are very prone to .  there
        was a mention of something about a "direct box" that i have written
        down on the piece of paper in front of me, but i forgot how it fits
        into this equation, so i'll leave that for you learned musical
        folks to figure out.

everyone has got to remember that this article and information was
presented backk in 1991, so how much has changed is really beyond me at
this point.  i've got some information on their new electric guittar
equipment, but i don't have it with me, so i'll post sometime soon.
thanks for anyone interested enough to read.  any extra information is
greatly appreciated, becauuse i really dig this stuff...


too poor to afford any of the aforementioned toys....
teri


"all the shiny little trinkets of temptation, something new instead of
something old.  all you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface and it's
fools gold..."
                -emily saliers
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 10:05:07 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jmcphee884@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         brian mcphee <jmcphee884@aol.com>
subject:      re: i'd scream for ............

that ice cream idea is the best!!  we have to come up with a really good
flavor, but that won't be hard.  keep thinking!!
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 07:59:14 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: ig on the irc

you wrote:
>
>hey, everyone!  i've seen some references to the irc lately - nicks
and
>little factoids found on it.  this all caught my eye because i just
got
>hooked up!  the problem though is that i have been looking for any and
>all ig stuff that might be there and have come up empty-handed.  does
>anybody know of ig-related channels????
>please post it or e-mail me privately!  :)
>thanks,
>jenn
>jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
>

.....this may be a repeat, but the ig room on the irc is #indigo-girls
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 08:11:31 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: boys on the side

you wrote:
>
>popularity has nothing to do with it.  pulp fiction was just released
for
>100$.  as far as i can see, how a movie company determines a price
seems
>rather random.  some movies cost twenty and some cost 100$, and there
isn't
>any in between.  in about six months the price of pulp fiction will be
>lowered to twenty, and you can expect the same for bots.

.......movies are released at $100. or more by the movie companies
because they feel that it will be a popular rental movie.  they -know-
that video rental stores will buy it anyway so they try to sell as many
as they can at the high price.  then once the rental frenzy is over,
they lower the price to $20. so people will purchase it.  the only
reason i can figure for some movies ie: forest gump start out at the
lower price is because the movie companies know that it is so popular
that it will sell many more copies right away thus making them more
money in the long run.
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 12:58:46 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "(eric l. nerino)" <nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net>
subject:      venting...venting...venting

hey!

i'm feeling slighted....anyone else.....

i've been scanning the mtvized rolling stone for the past couple of months in
hopes of seeing newport stuff or 1300 curfews/watershed info. (the last and
*only* recent thing i saw (w/more than a sentence) was a small, and i do mean
*small*, mention of the honor the earth tour with a picture of a + e w/some kids
from the white earth reservation in minnesota.

well....in the oct. 5th issue there is *finally* a mention of newport...i hope
no one minds if i transcribe the *mention*...

       "folkin' around at the weekend-long b&j's folk festival at the historic
fort adams state park, in newport, ri, were the jayhawks with victoria williams,
mary chapin-carpenter, bob weir and rob wasserman. "this is a beautiful event
with a great vibe,"said jayhawks singer mark olson,"but that ice cream will kill
you."

....there is a small picture of gary louris of the jayhawks under the *mention*

what the hell is going on here!!!!!!

ok...ok...i shouldn't be reading that rag, but *jeez*, what about joan, patty,
ani, mary, luka, ferron, laura love, john hiatt, catie, terrance simien and the
rest of the *amazing* talent that graced the event...not in the least is the duo
who headlined the whole thing.

....where's sam kineson when you need him?

i can't forget to mention that in the same issue,
                     spirit of '73: rock for choice was reviewed and guess who
                    did not even get *mentioned* as paricipating?! that, in
                     addition to some luke warm reviews makes me want to....
                     to....to......(fill in the blank, please)

peace.....smiles....#@%&$$#$#!!!!'s

...eric
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 08:55:05 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
subject:      auction: short & sweet, all ig

this auction is for a friend who just doesn't want to deal, so i was
volunteered.

here are the rules:

1) begins 9/23 and ends 9/29 at noon pacific time (that's friday)
2) items will go once-twice-sold, moving up a notch (ie once to twice) after
one day of no matched bid.
3) if someone comes in at the last minute and outbids you at noon on friday,
you'll both get a message and will be asked to submit a _final_ bid, and the
highest wins (learned that in comics auctions, it works, and we'll go with it)
4) minimums are set, bids must be in increments of a dollar if over $10,
$.50 if under $10.
5) money orders only.  i know it's an extra step, to go to the po or the
bank, but it gets stuff out to you quicker and i don't have to worry about
bounced checks.
6) postage paid on anything over $25, under that, you'll want to add $3 for
priority, probably.
6) bidders will be updated daily, this list will be updated on wednesday 9/27.
7) we reserve the right to pull any item that someone makes an outrageous
bid on, and sell it to them.
8) ok, enough rules.
---------------------------------------------------

club r&r cd                       min-$50
shades of indigo purple cd       min-$25
joking maxi-cd single with         min-$ 5
        joking, ctf, and kid fears (all studio)
3 green, signed swamp ophelias  min-$10 (each)

yeah, the rules are longer than the list of items. sorry.
email bids to dmon@hidwater.com
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 12:12:38 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sue steinike <steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sue steinike <steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      digest problems?
in-reply-to:  <199509210419.xaa24607@mace.cc.purdue.edu>; from "automatic
              digest processor" at sep 21, 95 12:01 am

hey! is something wrong with the digest?  i haven't gotten it for 3 days and
i'm probably missing some good stuff!  can anyone who knows wwhat's going on
please drop me a line?  thanks!

sue

p.s.  i talked with perry at rainy day records and asked him about the problem
of "complicated grils" cutting off the end of the last song.  he said that's
how it was on the master tape and all of them are like that.
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 13:23:57 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 12:05:36 -0700

where oh where can i get hooked up with this color me grey? do you know of
anyone who would be willing to copy it for me or anything? i loooooooove the
indigos and would loooove to hear it. thanks and have a nice day! love and
lavalamps and fruit flavor, daisy
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 13:27:17 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 12:05:36 -0700

hey, one more question? where can i get me this out loud thingy? thanks for
reading this.. have an enlightening day.... love and cheese, daisy
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 23 sep 1995 19:55:47 edt
reply-to:     jon miner <jjminer@facstaff.wisc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jon miner <jjminer@facstaff.wisc.edu>
subject:      re: t-shirt again
x-cc:         hey_jude@brown.edu

on fri, 22 sep 1995 00:10:41 +2000 you wrote:

>date:    thu, 21 sep 1995 03:25:22 -0400
>from:    jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
>subject: re: t-shirt again
>
>jon miner <jjminer@facstaff.wisc.edu> writes:
>> front:
>> folkisgruven
>
>i'd just like to confirm something..
>
>does this mean it just says "folkisgruven" in plain black text?  or is
>there some graphic that goes along with it?  (i know i've seen a
>simple graphic that went along with the "fukingruven" logo)

at the moment it just says folkisgruven...  i dont' have the time or
the ability to create a reasonable facimile of the little graphic,
however is someone wanted to create one, uuencode it and mail it to
me, i would add it....

                  -*jon*-

...  "death is but a doorway - time is but a window - i'll be back."
                -vigo the omnipotent.

if all the world is a stage....
        then the light at the end of the tunnel...

must be god's way of saying...
        "get off the stage!"


geek code v3.0:
gu!     d?(dx) s a--- c++>+++ u? p?  l e? n+ k- w---(w)
        m-- !v y+ t+ 5 r        tv++ b+(++) d--(----) e-* h!
        r++ y++(**) w++ o+++ pe(-)(--) ps++(+++) pgp x++
        di++ g

*silence = death*

jjminer@facstaff.wisc.edu  | http://www.wp.com/aids_daily_summary
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 14:55:50 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              gre1440@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gre1440@aol.com
subject:      re: auction: short & sweet, all ig

ok, i'll bid as follows:

for club r&r cd                       i bid $50.

for shades of indigo purple cd   i bid $25.

for 3 green swamp o's              i bid $10 each.

thanks,
gre1440@aol.com
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 17:45:48 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              torio1@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         torio1@aol.com
subject:      re: boys on the side

in a message dated 95-09-20 23:49:29 edt, alycia wrote:

>i just went to blockbuster to purchase boys on the side.  the price they
>quoted me was an amazing, get this, $100.00.  i asked why boys on the side
>cost $100 when movies like forrest gump only cost $25.00

i purchased the boys on the side laserdisc at tower for $35.00, i'd suggest
you try someplace besides blockbuster.

tori
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 20:28:21 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      a&e on phantom (sp?) center cd

listening to the radio a few moments ago i heard "stand up," a cut from a
new ferron album, which featured emily on guitar and a&e and (i believe)
tori amos doing backup vocals.  the cd is, i understand, coming out this week.

jo
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 21:15:38 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              christopher lloyd palmer <chrispal@umich.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         christopher lloyd palmer <chrispal@umich.edu>
subject:      re: auction: short & sweet, all ig
x-to:         gre1440@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <950924145547_107643001@mail06.mail.aol.com>

please take me off of this mailing list
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 17:50:23 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: venting...venting...venting
x-to:         nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
in-reply-to:  <199509231658.maa06663@ns1.ptd.net>

eric and all...
        my goodness you couldn't be more right!!!  what is up with these
stupid mtv/rolling stone fools.  i'm as angry as anyone!
        i say ig fans just flood the f*%k out of rolling bones offices
with letters of our discontent.
        it's absolutely ridiculous!!!

venting and bitter...
teri

"everything i  truly love comes from somewhere far  above..."
                amy ray
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date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 19:57:07 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julie l atchison <jla954@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie l atchison <jla954@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
subject:      re: aarrgghhh!!!
x-to:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>

sorry rebecca--i had always heard the 10th all along.  it was only on this
mailing list that i saw the 3rd being tossed around.  we've waited this
long....guess, we can wait another week??

-julie


>i've been into 2 record stores today, and both had the release date for
>'1200 curfews' as 10/10/95.  i told both that i thought it was the 3rd,
>and they said that no, as far as they knew, it was the 10th.  please,
>someone, reassure me that they don't know muich and it *is* the 3rd (i've
>got a mid-term that day, and could do with a reward for sitting it!)>
>
>          rebecca.
>
>     *****************************************************************
>
>     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
>     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
>                                                        oscar wilde
>
>
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date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 20:32:37 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: a&e on phantom (sp?) center cd
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>

>listening to the radio a few moments ago i heard "stand up," a cut from a
>new ferron album, which featured emily on guitar and a&e and (i believe)
>tori amos doing backup vocals.  the cd is, i understand, coming out this week.
>
>jo

i heard from a my hometown record store that ferron's new cd is coming out
on tuesday, sept 26.
alycia
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date:         sun, 24 sep 1995 22:08:06 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "(eric l. nerino)" <nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net>
subject:      vent.......venting......vented
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9509241759.a6104-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>

hey!

>i say ig fans just flood the f*%k out of rolling bones offices
>with letters of our discontent.

i've done so......anyone else interested?

flame away....either at    76702.2705@compuserve.com   or at
                           rollingstone@echonyc.com

peace...smiles....(i dumped the ###$%^!!!'s at rolling stone:))

eric
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 01:56:39 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net

>>i say ig fans just flood the f*%k out of rolling bones offices
>>with letters of our discontent.
...
>eric

why?
...(she asks, not having a clue what's going on)


jo
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 07:26:04 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@glaci.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@glaci.com>
subject:      re: a&e on phantom (sp?) center cd

>listening to the radio a few moments ago i heard "stand up," a cut from a
>new ferron album, which featured emily on guitar and a&e and (i believe)
>tori amos doing backup vocals.  the cd is, i understand, coming out this week.

stand up is the opening track on a cd called _phantom center_, released in
1990.  it is an *excellent* cd.  tori amos is credited with backup for the
cd, but a&e do not appear in the credits.

is it possible that this is a new version of stand up?  possibly live?  any
more info on the ferron cd would be greatly appreciated.  no matter what
info people have, i will probably have to go out and buy it, though.   :)

:dwayne

dwayne jarrell (djarrell@ren.glaci.com)
"don't fool yourself into thinking things are simple
nobody's lying and still the stories don't line up"
- ani difranco
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 09:16:24 +0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ddavies5@ford.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "david j. davies" <ddavies5@ford.com>
subject:      where to vent?

eric (...or anyone who might know...),

is there a rolling stones e-mail address to write to?
is there a rolling stones snail mail address to write to?

-dave
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 09:29:26 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              chris kimball <kimball@ridgefield.sdr.slb.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris kimball <kimball@ridgefield.sdr.slb.com>
subject:      please remove my name from mailing list
x-cc:         kimball@gum.ridgefield.sdr.slb.com

remove from list
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 10:00:14 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              scott zotigh <zotigh@usa.pipeline.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott zotigh <zotigh@usa.pipeline.com>
subject:      re: native americans on the list.

>on sep 23, 1995 00:00:42, '<judith k. hunter> jhunter@rtc.gov>' wrote:
>
>i know, from our discussions of the girl's recent tour, that there are
some
>native americans on this list :)  come out, come out, delurk, and give us
>some suggestions on kirsti's idea...  jude
>

t'aw-tso, everyone!

there is, indeed, a native american on the list. :)

i had already thanked kirsti privately for her suggestion (ah-ho, kirsti!),
and i have written to some of you whom asked about specific organizations
which could use assistence. i think that it is admirable and heart-warming
the level of caring that many of you on this list show for those around
you. you are all good people.

there are many, too many native american organizations which could use any
and all assistence. you may want to first check in your local area for any
reservations or tribal centers. secondly, check your phone book for native
american organizations. if you cannot find any of these, and would like me
to use my contacts throughout the u.s. and canada to find an organization
in your area, then e-mail me privately and i will put you in contact with
someone who could use your help. there are so many tribes with so many
varied needs; feeding and clothing, education, job training, drug and
alcohol counseling, protection of land, legal assistance, and the
preservation of our culture..our languages, our dances, our history, our
song. the need is indeed great. but, take heart, there are many people our
there like you who are working hard in all of these areas and all around
can be seen the difference they are making.

a tribe is an entity which establishes itself for the care and protection
of its people. one could extend a 'tribal' view to all those around them
and lend a hand to those in need. whether you help native americans, or any
others who suffer need, you will be doing a good thing. :)

ah-ho, everyone!  thank you.

p'oy-ohm-toh-yah!!  (travel in health!)


scott zotigh
zotigh@usa.pipeline.com
zotigh@aol.com
kiowa black leggings warrior society
kiowa gourd clan
kiowa tiah-piah society
american indian veterans society, (staff)
'|:")
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 11:47:51 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: i'd scream for ............
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>, jmcphee884@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of sat, 23 sep 1995 10:05:07 -0400

what ice cream idea?
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 13:13:41 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              wingstar@mulberry.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat stark <wingstar@mulberry.com>
subject:      jc superstar

i went to my local music store thinking to buy the jesus christ superstar
discs but there were a couple different ones there, none of which said who
performed them.  can anyone out there discribe the cover for the discs that
the indigo girls were part of?  thanks!

pat
wingstar@mulberry.com
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 11:51:52 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: auction: short & sweet, all ig
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of sat, 23 sep 1995 08:55:05 -0700

what's this about? how do i go about doing this? believe me, i am interested...
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 12:02:30 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 22:24:58 +0100

hi... my name is shannon... on your sign-off of this letter that i am
replying to, you wrote "julie miller" among the list of artists you like-
julie miller, the christian singer? if you mean yes, please oh please
respond. thanks- have a good day! love and trees and coughdrops, daisy.
p.s. where are you from?
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 12:03:17 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 22:24:58 +0100

me again- on emore thing. are you from surrey, england? do you know where
farnham is? write back soon pleases
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 12:03:48 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: t-shirt update
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>, smcgill818@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 22 sep 1995 22:51:52 -0400

yes, what
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 14:33:41 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              smcgill818@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephen mcgill <smcgill818@aol.com>
subject:      very strange fire...

this is probably common knowledge, but does anyone know why amy and emily
were inclined to do an acoustic version of land of canaan on strange fire?
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 11:31:05 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      more new releases from rdr

perry has asked me to pass along that he has just received in stock
joan baez's "ring them bells".  it's on the shelf and ready to go.
for those who are unfamiliar with it, this is a live album that
was recorded at nyc's bottom line.  there are lots of
guests on it, including indigo girls (dont think twice it's
alright), mary chapin carpenter (diamonds and rust),
dar williams, tish hinojosa, mary black (ring them bells) and
others.  i'm told that it sounds quite good.

he also has a stack of complicated girls discs just waiting
to find good homes  :)

that number again is 1-800-636-6166

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 16:48:00 -0300
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              donna mcnally <dmcnally@atcon.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         donna mcnally <dmcnally@atcon.com>
subject:      re: very strange fire...
x-to:         smcgill818@aol.com

this acoustic version on strange fire is in fact the original version of
this song.  the material on strange fire pre-dates the self titled album.
this leaves us with the question as to why they re-recorded the song on the
self titled album.


>this is probably common knowledge, but does anyone know why amy and emily
>were inclined to do an acoustic version of land of canaan on strange fire?
>
>
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 14:51:10 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
subject:      4.5

hey, everybody!!  i just ran across a copy of 4.5 imported from austria
and was wondering if i should snatch it up.  i haven't heard anything
about it - i'm sure it's old news to all you guys, but i've only been on
the list a month or so, so i don't know what went on before that.  i know
it's ig, and anything ig will be quality...but i just wanted some
feedback about it first.  thanks!
jenn
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 15:45:05 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      !!!!!!!***>>>cover tape ready<<<***!!!!!!!
x-to:         tape tree branches <brian@pas.rochester.edu>,
              carol jones <carolj@uscyber.com>,
              daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com, deanna@dcez.com,
              gkemp@eng.clemson.edu, jhunter@rtc.gov,
              joan_ferguson@harvard.edu, mrbcom@earthlink.net,
              okeeffe@lclark.edu, sparkle@primenet.com

       well, believe it or not, the cover tape is finally ready!!

what:  cover me grey (title by greg flamer, rock on) is a compilation of
songs that ig have covered and not recorded (with one exception).  it was
put together for pleasure, not profit.  i will be posting this exact
message periodically over the next few weeks.  it has a wicked cool
insert (grey paper--get it?) with artwork designed by ig fans as well as
the lyrics to all the songs included on the tape.  the songs are:

side a
american tune (autzen stadium, eugene, or, 8/22/93)
love of the common people (reverse-1)
cortez the killer (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
summertime (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88, with michael stipe)
bury my heart at wounded knee (radio 1, england, 6/23/95, no band)
bartender's blues (central park, ny, ny, 9/20/92, with sara lee)
water is wide (club r&r)
wild horses (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
thin line (the backyard (soundcheck), austin, tx, 9/1/94)
melissa (shades)

side b
wild, wild party at the loquat tree (put on your green shoes)
southern man (radio city music hall, ny, ny, 6/28/94, with cooper tisdale
        and kristen hall)
house at pooh corner (shades)
daddy's all gone (shades)
river (toad's place, new haven, ct, 12/9/90)
hairshirt (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88)
the weakness in me (live at san francisco epic promo--awesome)
down by the river (live at san francisco promo--awesome)
mona lisas and mad hatters (reverse-1)
midnight train to georgia (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with gail
        andorsey and jimmy descant)
finlandia (the pier, seattle, wa, 8/17/94, with caroline aiken)


some of the songs on this tape are versions that are to die for.  some
are not.  :)  i did the best i could, listening to sometimes 8 different
versions of a song trying to decide which one to use.  i am pleased to
say that there is only one song that, to me, is not extremely good
quality.  this is a bootleg project, though, so don't complain about the
quality of the tape unless you feel that this disclaimer is misleading.  :)


how to get one:  to get a copy of cover me grey, send $5 and a sase to
the appropriate branch of the tape tree (to be discussed below).  the $5
is to cover the cost of the blank tape (maxell xl ii high bias) and the
cost of the *insert* that goes in it.  the sase (a self-addressed, stamped
envelope) is to make the branches' lives easier.  the tape will be sent to
you in the sase that you send your branch, so you probably want to either
send a padded envelope or include packing materials (like newspaper).

if you live outside the united states:  send me private email and we will
work out a trade.  you will not be using the branches from the tape tree,
you will get your tape directly from me.

all profits, if any, will be donated to an organization which works to
reclaim and protect the rights of native americans.

ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)

if you are an aquarius (1/20-2/18), contact:
jude hunter
jhunter@rtc.gov

if you are a gemini (5/21-6/20), contact:
greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu

if you are a sagittarius (11/22-12/21), contact:
joan ferguson
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu

if you are a taurus (4/20-5/20), contact:
pamela shaw
sparkle@primenet.com

if you are a leo (7/23-8/22), contact:
brian colwell
brian@pas.rochester.edu

if you are a libra (9/23-10/22), contact:
mike bunch
mrbcom@earthlink.net

if you are a virgo (8/23-9/22), contact:
martine o'keeffe
okeeffe@lclark.edu

if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
alan fleming
daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com

if you are a pisces (2/19-3/20), contact:
deanna newcomb
deanna@dcez.com

if you are a scorpio (10/23-11/21) or a cancer (6/21-7/22), contact:
margaret clayton
maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

if you are a capricorn (12/22-1/19), contact:
carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu

also, when contacting your branch, make absolutely sure that the subject
line of your message contains the words cover tape (so that the branch
reads it promptly).  i sent this message to the tape tre branches and
cc'ed it to the list, so you should be able to reply directly to your
branch.  please delete all of the other addresses, as most of us don't
want to know that you want a copy of the cover tape (nothing personal).
please do not send requests for the cover tape to the list.  if you forget
who your branch is please wait and i will repost this message in a couple
of days.

well, i think that's it.  if there's anything that i forgot or if you
have any questions, please feel free to send me private email and i will
get back to you.  if i forgot something that warrants another posting to
the list i will do so.  thanks!!!!!

margaret
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 12:16:00 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
subject:      re: ig equipment assessment
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

hey teresa..

just wanted to say thanks for all the guitar stuff you post. i have the
issue of ag that contains the article you were talking about. it's nice
having another guitar junkie around :)

-sheri
it's these little things, they can pull you under.
live your life full of joy and thunder.
-michael stipe/sweetness follows
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 14:24:42 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
subject:      interactive cd

a friend of mine in new jersey heard about a
new interactive cd of the girls on a radio
station there -- they were giving them away.
does anyone know about this and how one
could obtain it?
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 14:26:39 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
subject:      will you be in atlanta this month? (nigc)

        for anyone visiting or living in atlanta this month, try checking
out lift.  they are an outstanding local band. great songs, great
musicians, great fun.

here are their oct. dates:

oct. 1      revolution/4-7
oct. 17     eddie's attic  /9:30
oct. 19     red light /10:00
oct. 20     revolution/4-7

****they will also be doing a thing called jam fest @ lakewood on oct 7 or 8!
    it is going to be awesome! tickest available thru ticketmaster**********
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 17:33:27 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>
subject:      1200 curfews / release date

i read this morning on the new releases mail list that the
release date for 1200 curfews has been bumped from october 3
to october 10.  <big frown>

lynn
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 17:55:12 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ms janet m vansyckel <mglz19b@prodigy.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ms janet m vansyckel <mglz19b@prodigy.com>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented

> from: jo norvelle walker       \ internet:    (jo@pluto.njcc.com)

> >>i say ig fans just flood the f*%k out of rolling bones with letters
of our discontent.

> why?
> ...(she asks, not having a clue what's going on)

wheewww... i'm glad i'm not the only one who doesn't know what's going
on. can anyone please do a slight rewind and recap this situation?

thanks

- jan
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 16:49:30 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: interactive cd
x-to:         carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
in-reply-to:  <s066bc19.044@getty.edu>

wow, this would be wonderful! i have the sarah mclachlan interactive, and
it's really interesting. fun, too. i heard thru a friend that the igs
were working on something.... is it released yet?
--di

on mon, 25 sep 1995, carla williams wrote:

> a friend of mine in new jersey heard about a
> new interactive cd of the girls on a radio
> station there -- they were giving them away.
> does anyone know about this and how one
> could obtain it?
>
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 00:56:11 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      ig cd interactive

there are two items.

what is available right now is an ibm disk that is a part of the
music screeners series.  it is a screen saver that features about 40
seconds of the touch me fall video.  that is probably what is being
given away.

the second item is a cd-rom of the upcoming 1200 curfews release.  it
will be out around november the last time i heard, and it will have
clips of videos, live performances, tv guest spots, etc.  i will try
to get an update on how this is progessing.
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 15:03:25 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: aarrgghhh!!!
x-to:         julie l atchison <jla954@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509250053.aa186090389@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

hello!
        my understanding is that 1200 curfews is due out on the 3rd and
watershed is due out the 10th.  i got the curfews date from ice magazine,
a newsletter published for the cd community.  but newsletters like this
are always subject to iffy release dates...

making a phone call to her local record store,
teri
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 15:56:54 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         rollingstone@echonyc.com

to all those concerned at rolling stone,
        as a music fan and musician, it is always hard to find
publications that can walk the fine lines of news, valuable information,
and blatant trends.  i do see the need for all of the above, because no
matter what i deem relevant and important, all are a part of what we know
as popular culture.
        as an indigo girls fan, you have provided none of the above.
and that makes me sick!
        amy ray and emily saliers have been contributing extraordinary
work since 1989 (and years before that, as we ig fans know).  of all the
genres you have gotten down on your knees to "praise", nowhere have you
given these two females the repect and recognition they are deserving
of.  and why??  i believe it is because you, mtv, or every other
mainstream entertainment "news" source can't stick the indigo girls in
some musical genre, basically trends, to push your damn product.  and
this makes me sick.
        a tour put on that raises over $300,000 in three months for
grassroots native american organizations gets amy ray and emily saliers a
small picture and half a paragraph lost on some page in an august issue.
they headlined the newport folk festival in 1995, and there is not a mere
mention of their names in your random notes section in the recent
september issue with foo fighters on the cover.  the same issue sports a
review of the cd "spirit of '76: rock for choice", in which your critic
seems to have skipped over the indigo girls track.  the same can be said
when they were the highlight of the bridge school concert back in october
of 1994, in which all focus was lavished on the fact that pearl jam had a
new drummer, sat in seats, and came back out on stage when neil young hit
the stage.  and when neil and eddie & co. get together to make a cd,
they'll grace the cover.  indigo girls will get a mention somewhere along
the line that "oh yeah, by the way, the neo-folkie chicks did something
sometime this past month and it isn't bad..."  it makes me sick, i'll tell
you...
        the truth of the matter is that your "news" source is not the only
one doing this.  vh1 seems intent on playing an indigo girls video only
about 4 times a year and then shelving the work to make more room to play
hootie and the blowfish 22 times each day.  mtv won't put it in the rotation at
all.  and this makes me sick...
        so, on behalf of ms. ray, ms. saliers, and all indigo girls fans
who might feel similar out there, i'd like to apologize.  i'm sorry that
their measurements are not 30-20-36.  i'm sorry they are not battling
ticketmaster.  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin.  i'm
sorry the indigo girls haven't married other celebrities.  i'm sorry
either of them haven't gone into rehab.  i'm sorry amy ray hasn't punched
out someone backstage.  i'm sorry emily saliers hasn't set her electric
guitar on fire.  most of all, i'm sorry you don't get it.  i'm sorry that
i will expect you, mtv, vh1, and all your trends to never get it.  i'm
sorry i plan to never subscribe to your publication ever again.  i'm sorry
you all are so blatant in your desire to sell magazines.  i'm sorry for
all the musicians who you have turned into commodities.
        because what does not sicken me to my stomach is the very fact
that the indigo girls will still be making music when the trends come and
go.  the fans are still going to be puttin their albums in the top 10 of
the billboard charts when they debut.  we're still going to be watching
them live, with or without rolling stone reporters there.  we've always
found ways.  we will continue.  they will continue.
        rolling stone probably will, too, in all reality.  that does
sicken me to my stomach...if you continue in the fashion you've
demonstrated when it comes to the indigo girls.  but, oh well, huh...

sincerely,
teresa c. esguerra
sacramento ca.
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 17:58:05 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      the indigo girls (who else?)

from matthew j. smith

has anybody on here actually met either of the indigo girls?   if so, tell
us all!
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 13:18:33 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: venting...venting...venting
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
in-reply-to:  your message of sat, 23 sep 1995 12:58:46 -0400

why no mention of the second day of the newport folk festival?????
too many unstylish gay people, of course.
an item to remember: ani difranco is listed in this very issue as having the
number one alternative cd.  why doesn't this make me happy?  agh! here come
the cheesy fans!!!!
mc
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 02:52:09 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              geoschoowa@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joshua steinert <geoschoowa@aol.com>
subject:      help!

i'm very new to this list and i'm having some trouble in figuring out what
albums are coming out. what is "history or us," and when will that be
released? i've got a friend with a new live album, and i can't find it
anywhere....she even says that it's not a bootleg.

someone, please set me straight. i just want to know what's going on here.

joshua
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 02:44:55 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      out loud (not very much igc)

i got my copy of out loud today.  anybody else notice that the triangles are
upside down?  that really is queer!

jo
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 20:47:54 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ammorrison@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         aaron morrison <ammorrison@aol.com>
subject:      hi y'all!

hi y'all!

i just joined the ig list.  i'm a fairly new ig fan,
and so far i have one album, "rites of passage".
also, i have the "boys on the side" soundtrack.
i heard ig has a new double live cd coming out
in october called "1200 curfews"  does anyone
know for sure when it will be released?
i heard oct 10.


aaron

"would you trade your words for freedom
that's a barter for a blind man"
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 09:46:56 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "t.j. newton" <t.j.newton@newcastle.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "t.j. newton" <t.j.newton@newcastle.ac.uk>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.812044950.daisyday@er5.rutgers.edu>

i also noticed julie miller, as well as eden burning, both fine christian
artists indeed. glad to see there are some like minded people out there.

i've been on this list for a few days now and have only seen one other
british mailer, are there any more of you brits out there? cheers

tim

on mon, 25 sep 1995, shannon cassaday wrote:

> hi... my name is shannon... on your sign-off of this letter that i am
> replying to, you wrote "julie miller" among the list of artists you like-
> julie miller, the christian singer? if you mean yes, please oh please
> respond. thanks- have a good day! love and trees and coughdrops, daisy.
> p.s. where are you from?
>
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 09:54:45 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: out loud (very much igc)

hey :):)

ok, i got this cd today...and well, if you look at the credits for the ig
track (live acoustic version, like they ever play the song electric!!??!!)

anyway, it says it was recorded at the shepherd's bush empire, london, on
december 12th 1994...

they didn't play there then!!!

if ig's can't get it right now, what hope for 1200 curfews??

two shows in london...november 21st and 22nd... (or was it 20 and 21??)
so which...

unless there's a secret gig noone told me about....naaah :):)

oh, and jane scarpantoni isn't on the recording, even though it says so in
the credits....

ack!!

@}--,--'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
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date:         mon, 25 sep 1995 22:40:27 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              smcgill818@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephen mcgill <smcgill818@aol.com>
subject:      re: interactive cd

i've seen the cd here in nyc.  if it's the same one, it contains video of
touch me fall, as well as a few diferent options on how to use the video
(screen savers, editing segmants of te song, etc.)  that's about all i know
except that it will only run on windows compatible computers.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:42:24 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>

>me again- on emore thing. are you from surrey, england? do you know where
>farnham is? write back soon pleases
>

yes.   farnham is on the a31 between guildford, surrey and winchester,
hants.   it's about 30 miles south-west of london, near aldershot raf base.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:44:43 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: very strange fire...
x-to:         donna mcnally <dmcnally@atcon.com>

>this acoustic version on strange fire is in fact the original version of
>this song.  the material on strange fire pre-dates the self titled album.
>this leaves us with the question as to why they re-recorded the song on the
>self titled album.
>
>
>>this is probably common knowledge, but does anyone know why amy and emily
>>were inclined to do an acoustic version of land of canaan on strange fire?
>>
>>
>

very strange indeed, since the original (strange fire) version is
significantly better than the scott litt-produced pop version!

matthew j. smith
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 12:03:19 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.

matthew j. smith
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:49:47 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: 4.5
x-to:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>

>hey, everybody!!  i just ran across a copy of 4.5 imported from austria
>and was wondering if i should snatch it up.  i haven't heard anything
>about it - i'm sure it's old news to all you guys, but i've only been on
>the list a month or so, so i don't know what went on before that.  i know
>it's ig, and anything ig will be quality...but i just wanted some
>feedback about it first.  thanks!
>jenn
>jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
>

don't bother.   the record company singled out all the best (i.e. most
commercial) tracks in the hope of making a big seller.   the albums are much
better (try nomads... and swamp ophelia for starters).

when johnnie walker interviewed the girls on radio 1 in england, amy didn't
even know how to pronounce it.   they had nothing to do with it.

matthew j. smith
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:51:54 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews / release date
x-to:         lynn torrey <74603.3513@compuserve.com>

>i read this morning on the new releases mail list that the
>release date for 1200 curfews has been bumped from october 3
>to october 10.  <big frown>
>
>lynn
>

but what about england?????!!!!
-------------------------------

matthew j. smith
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 08:00:46 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      jc superstar

there is a picture of the ig jc superstar album in the current issue of
record collector zine (sept 1995 issue) now available at tower records.  call
your local record store for ordering details.

also a nice long article about ig!

jude
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:15:39 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      too many things (not particularly interesting igc...
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk, t.j.newton@newcastle.ac.uk

>
>  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
>esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
>the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.
>
im sure i read that amy had said that that song wasn't anything to do with
neil young's 'needle and the damage done' and that is wasn't a drugs song...

i could be wrong though...

>farnham

it's just up the road there *points* just over the hill...
seriously.

>
>i also noticed julie miller, as well as eden burning, both fine christian
>artists indeed. glad to see there are some like minded people out there.
>

see?? i have taste :):)
there are quite a few english people here...

julie miller has a song on the new emmylou harris cd 'mirror ball' (??) and
also on the williams brothers 'two stories' album (i think the titles could
be wrong here...)
shawn colvin also sang on her first three albums...

oh, and i saw a new shawn cd 'live '88' on import...looks cool, but i'll get
it when i'm in the states next methinks :):)

just for general info, and list tie-in sake :):)

@}--,--'---

ps...outloud cd...with this train, i ordered mine through the www...
i think it's http://www.monsterbit.com/  but i am open to corrections 'cause
i'm crap really :):)


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 08:40:56 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kristina cizas <kcizas@umich.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@umich.edu>
subject:      re: more new releases from rdr
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.950925112604.19869b-100000@crl.crl.com>

on mon, 25 sep 1995, amy j. putnam wrote:

> perry has asked me to pass along that he has just received in stock
> joan baez's "ring them bells".  it's on the shelf and ready to go.
> for those who are unfamiliar with it, this is a live album that
> was recorded at nyc's bottom line.  there are lots of
> guests on it, including indigo girls (dont think twice it's
> alright), mary chapin carpenter (diamonds and rust),
> dar williams, tish hinojosa, mary black (ring them bells) and
> others.  i'm told that it sounds quite good.

it is very good. joan also covers "welcome me".

another disc of interest is ferron's phantom center, just re-released.
nice backing vocals by the igs and tori amos.

k
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 14:31:01 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: too many things (not particularly interesting igc...)
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>

>>
>>  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
>>esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
>>the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.
>>
>im sure i read that amy had said that that song wasn't anything to do with
>neil young's 'needle and the damage done' and that is wasn't a drugs song...
>
>i could be wrong though...
>
i never said it had anything to do with neil young.   and what do you
suppose the "boy that od'd" od'd on?   if it's not a drugs song, what is it
about?   sewing?

matthew j. smith
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 10:40:08 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: native americans on the list.
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              scott zotigh <zotigh@usa.pipeline.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of mon, 25 sep 1995 10:00:14 -0400

hi! i am from new jersey (central jersey) and i am a college student at
rutgers but i would love to help out in any way possible.... my youth group
and i went to montana to live with and help out the blackfoot indians  a
couple of years ago and it was the best experience of my entire life!! please
email me back! i am young, ready, and eager... have a dandy day!  love and
daisies, shannon
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:18:01 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: out loud (not very much igc)
x-to:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>

>what is out loud and does anyone know where i can get a copy? tahnks...


shannon,

out loud is a benefit cd for queer rights, featuring ig among many others.
i ordered my copy from 1(800)462-6654.  price is 12.95, plus shipping.  the
url for information is:

http://www.hidwater.com/outloud/


jo
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 11:05:15 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: out loud (not very much igc)
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 02:44:55 -0400

what is out loud and does anyone know where i can get a copy? tahnks...
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 09:30:47 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         ms janet m vansyckel <mglz19b@prodigy.com>
in-reply-to:  <013.01864142.mglz19b@prodigy.com>

janet all all others,
        eric brought up the fact that in the latest issue of rolling stone,
ig was not mentioned in their snippet of theport folk festival, despite
the fact that a + e headlined the damn show.  no mention of them in the
review of "spirit of '76" either.
        ig was in the movie "boys on the side" and they make no mention in
advertisements for the soundtrack (unrelated to rolling stone, i suppose).
        no videos on mtv.  limited exposure on vh1.

        eric's sick of how mainstream is ignoring them.  so am i.

        this past week's issue of rolling stone just tops it.  that's why
i'm e-mailing them (i'm gonna try doing it everyday) to vent a bit...

that's it,
teri
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:07:51 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

matthew writes:

>  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
>esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
>the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.


well.... yes _but_ it's actually about a lot more than that. it's about drugs,
but it's also about a lot of other "alienating and dehumanizing" experiences
in amy's life. and the "needle" represents the needle on a meter as well as a
drug needle. as in pushing the needle off the scale, into the red zone, ya
know?  _but_ this song doesn't count as a heroin song to mainstream america,
or rs mag (rag) because it doesn't say:

"oooh, baby baby, do it to me baby, i want you yeah yeah, sex sex drugs drugs,
make me high, rock 'n roll  (drum/cymbol crash, loud electric guitar solo
inserted here) ooooh baby yeah!!!!!!! drugs are cooooooool!!!!

or something to that effect. (everyone like my song?) :)

although, at this point i could mention amy's 'baby, baby, baby' song, but
that's different. :) (hey everyone, trivia question: 1) what's amy's favorite
word? 2) name the above mentioned song, and 3) how many times does she say that
word in the above mentioned song?)
<g>

folkisgruven y'all,
lorindigo

oh, and i should add that i absolutely love the letter to rolling stone that
was posted, and you've inspired me to put in my $0.02 if i can find even the
smallest amount of time.

lorinda wright           "...on a kind of a telephone line through time.
lw01@lehigh.edu           and the voice on the other end comes like a long
lehigh university         lost friend." -e.s.
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:34:00 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

>teresa,

are you planning to send a copy (to rolling stone) of the letter you posted
here? if so, may i make a suggestion?...i think the gist of the letter is
terrific, however; i would make it a bit more "diplomatic" and cut down on
some of the "it makes me sick" and "i'm sorry 'such and such'" phrases. your
points are all very good, but i'd re-work some of it so that it's just as
intense, but a little more polished. don't misunderstand my note, i'm only
trying to offer constructive criticism :)

-sheri
it's these little things, they can pull you under.
live your life full of joy and thunder.
-michael stipe/sweetness follows
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:35:00 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

matthew...

"pushing the needle too far" is about pushing limits...not needles. the drug
reference is strictly metaphor.

-sheri
it's these little things, they can pull you under.
live your life full of joy and thunder.
-michael stipe/sweetness follows
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:57:50 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "jean m. bardin" <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "jean m. bardin" <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject:      heroin references

hi-
        i'm new to the mailing list and noticed all of the discussion
about whether or not "pushing the needle too far" was a heroin
reference.  i don't know about that, but am i the only one who thinks
that the line "a horse drawn on my arm, standing for an addiction" from
the 6th song(i'm blanking on the title, i think its "keeper of my heart") on
"nomads, indians, saints" is a reference to heroin?  horse is a slang
term for the drug.

-jean
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:22:03 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sara krausert <2ap8krausert@vmsa.csd.mu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sara krausert <2ap8krausert@vmsa.csd.mu.edu>
subject:      hi out there!

i've been on this list for about a week now, and i thought i would introduce
myself. my name is sara krausert, and i'm a senior majoring in journalism at
marquette university. i've liked the indigo girls since the beginning of high
school, when a friend bought me the "nomads indians saints" album for my
birthday. that album is still one of my favorites! i have all of their
legitimiate releases, although none of the boots :-(. i can't wait for the live
album! it's hard to name a favorite song, because i don't dislike any of their
songs, but some of my favorites offhand are "ghost," "kid fears," "keeper of my
heart," "welcome me" and "least complicated" talk to y'all later!

sara krausert
2ap8krausert@vms.csd.mu.edu
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 14:23:15 -24000
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              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      re: what is outloud (shannon)

to:             <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
cc:
bcc:
from:           rebrad@aol.com
subject:        outloud
date:           saturday, july 15, 1995 18:10:41 edt
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fyi...here's a press release i've just received...

the international gay & lesbian human rights commission

june 28, 1995 attn:   arts & entertainment editors
        music editors

out loud
benefits lesbian and gay human rights around the world

u2, the indigo girls, and throwing muses are among the artists
contributing on the compilation cd, out loud,  an album in support
of the human rights and freedom of lesbian and gay people.
released on the label knitting factory works, the cd will be
released september 20, 1995 with record release parties in new
york city and san francisco.

the out loud compilation cd brings together an eclectic mix of
major label artists and up and coming artists stepping forward
with powerful recordings about freedom, dignity, and honesty - all
to benefit the international gay & lesbian human rights commission (iglhrc).
with seventeen tracks (thirteen previously unreleased) out loud is a
necessity for all fans interested in collecting recordings from artists like
u2 and throwing muses, among others, that can only be found on this benefit
cd.

highlights include kristin hersh's haunting vocals floating over
hard driving accompaniment on throwing muses previously unreleased live remix
version of finished, a rare find as it has never been released in the us in
any version.  with striking harmonies and
profound lyrics, indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers add a
fierce intro to their live acoustic version of this train revised.
u2  joins the benefit compilation with a brilliant, previously
unreleased remix version of cole porter's standard night and day,
with a new techno backbeat that moves the song from its red hot &
blue origins to the dance floor.  british icons everything but the
girl (i don't understand anything) and billy bragg  (sexuality)
contribute previously released songs that take on new life and
power in the context of this compilation.

the entire album is solid with provocative, political, and
entertaining compositions from the gretchen phillips experience,
melissa ferrick, disappear fear, the mekons, voice farm, betty,
the billy tipton memorial saxophone quartet, y'all, the jazz
passengers, girls in the nose, daniel cartier and the judybats.

proceeds from out loud directly benefit the work of the
international gay & lesbian human rights commission (iglhrc).
iglhrc, founded in 1991, advocates for a world in which the most
fundamental rights of lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, transgendered
people, and people with aids and hiv will be respected. part of
this mission is to redefine the global battle for human rights to
include the rights of these people.

as the music industry often serves as a prominent voice for social
issues, out loud was naturally a project for siblings julie and
michael dorf to join efforts on.  julie, the executive director of
the iglhrc, and michael, owner of the knitting factory label and
club, teamed up in june of 1994 to produce the out loud benefit
concert series, held at the knitting factory, to benefit iglhrc
during the 25th anniversary of the stonewall rebellion.  the out
loud cd evolved from this concert series and is the latest dorf
project supporting social issues through the music industry.

for more information or to request pre-release cassettes for
review and/or album cover artwork, contact russ gage at
415-255-8680.

1360 mission street, suite 200, san francisco, ca 94103  usa tel.
1-415-255-8680  fax 1-415-255-8662  email iglhrc@igc.apc.org
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 14:47:01 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              karen mcelhaney <km5@ornl.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         karen mcelhaney <km5@ornl.gov>
subject:      list of cds

okay, since i'm new to the list and have just ordered a copy of complicated
girls (thanks, amy) i was wondering if anyone has a list of all the
available bootleg or promo cds available (an index of each would also be
nice).  i am realizing that i have no idea what kinds of ig stuff is
available!  thanks in advance.

karen

--------------------------
karen mcelhaney (email: km5@ornl.gov)
lockheed martin energy systems
bldg. 9102-1  rm 23  ms 8038
oak ridge,  tn  37831-8038
phone: (615) 576-6110
fax:   (615) 574-7879
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 09:31:15 pdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              monique barbanson <mhb@batnet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         monique barbanson <mhb@batnet.com>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

>i'm sorry amy ray hasn't punched
>out someone backstage.

actually i think they've been thrown out of a rochester ny hall because amy
was trying to get the security people to lay off the fans who were out of
control. check out the lifeblood web and ftp site for the relevant article.
(if you use netscape, type indigo girls in the net search field)

monique

ps: i'm learning to play the guitar by working on ig songs (having more
success so far with the slow ones than the fast ones). anyone in the palo
alto ca area interested in getting together to play? send me email:
mhb@entelechy.com.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 10:32:47 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9509231118.a173-0100000@zonk.geko.com.au>; from
              "piquet the cat" at sep 23, 95 11:36 am

> 'we must sink the censorship to find... what truth is...'
> can you tell what i'm listening to? :)

yep!  that would be "sink the censorship (a letter to jesse helms)" by
disappear fear, probably off of "live at the bottom line."  which
reminds me, i just found out about a great concert coming up at the
somerville theatre (davis sq, boston, ma): disappear fear (sonja and
the band--no cindy), the nields, and daring angels!!!  i think its
november 17th, i just hope i'm in town for it.  ellis paul is also
playing there oct 7th... *plug plug plug*

obigc:

   sherilyn, what happened with your www survey?

                                -- chris

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christopher m. becker                       "trying to read the greek
mit center for space research                 upon the stars...."
cmbecker@space.mit.edu                           -- e. saliers

        http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/home.html     [my homepage]
  http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/nields/nields.html [nields' page]
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 18:07:22 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 09:30:47 -0700

i have just finished reading everyone's complaints about how ig is so poorly
covered by the mainstream media, and my simple response is:

count your blessings!!!!

think about it.  why do we want ig to be covered by the mainstream media?
why do we want the entire world to know about what we have known for so long?
do we want ig to become overnight sensations like courtney love and hole?  do
we want to see them doing stadium shows, sponsored by beer companies?  do we
want to see them shmoozing with mtv vj's and acting foolish?  do we want to
see them on mtv's rock n' jock softball challenge?  my answer is no, to all
of the above, except maybe the last one.  it would be refreshing to see a
woman participate in that game who isn't wearing something tight and showy,
who isn't trying to be cute and perky every time the camera is on her, and
who can actually hit, field, and throw, which i am sure that a & e can
definitely do.  but more importantly, ig is music's best kept secret, and i
want it to stay that way.  i like being able to see them in 2,000 seat
theatres, rather than 25,000 seat arenas or 100,000 seat stadiums.  i don't
want them to be as big as the grateful dead or hole or even as big as melissa
etheridge.  i understand that this is extremely selfish of me to say this,
but it is something to think about.  who else besides me is sick of sitting
in a theater watching ig, wanting to stand up and dance, but the people
around me say, "sit down!!!", but then at the end of the show, when closer to
fine is played, everybody stands up and goes nuts.  this and worse is what we
have to look forward to if ig was to become huge.  right now, because of
their moderate following, the record label probably does not put that much
pressure on them to conform their sound and style to any kind of mainstream
norm, thus, they are able to do pretty much what they want to do.  however,
if they were to become huge, i bet any amount of money that the label would
put some serious pressure on them to create some kind of "public image" of
themeselves that is different from what they currently display.  this is not
to criticize a & e and say that they would sell out for a few bucks, but i
believe that the pressure would be there, and nobody can say for sure whether
or not they would be able to resist it.  thus, i am very happy the way things
are.  rs, mtv, vh1 and the rest of the mainstream world can go fuck
themselves for all i care.  i am just happy buying their cds, listening to
them, seeing them in concert as much as humanly possible, and dreaming of the
day that amy and/or emily ask me to marry them.  just kidding!!!!!
have a nice day, and remember:

corporate music still sucks!!!


peace pops

bert
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 15:13:36 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      ::eeerie::
x-to:         srohse@dafbbs.com
in-reply-to:  <9509212355.a5662wk@dafbbs.com>

is it just my mailbox, or are the last few group messages being sent in
invisible ink?
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 18:24:30 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 18:07:22 edt

amazingly enough, (considering we've butted heads in the past - but what's a
head butt among ig fans?) i wholeheartedly agree.  i can't for the life of me
comprehend why everyone's whining that a rag like rs won't cover ig.  but
there is one problem with your idea that corporate music sucks.  ig are on
a corporate label.  the people who pump pearl jam back ig too.  let's not get
heady ideas that we're some persecuted kill rock stars/pre-sub-pop outfit of
purer than thou fans.  we line the pockets of scumbuckets just like mariah
carey fans do.  we can only be comforted with the fact that ig music doesn't
suck.  so maybe it's not true that corporate music all sucks, eh?  sad but true.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:45:48 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.812153242.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

i think the dilemma of wanting to keep something or someone small, and keep
the benefits of that, and wanting that thing/person to receive the
attention you *know* they deserve is a really tricky one.  i can draw a
possibly pathetic analogy between the igs and a quiet village i visit in
the highlands of scotland.  i want people to know what a beautifully
quiet place it is and how unspoilt it is by tourism - you can get close
to the locals (even if you're english, god forbid ;)), yet if too many
find out about it, it could lose much of its attraction.  the same could
be said re. the igs, except, it has to be said, the main attraction there
is the quality music and lyrics, which a+e surely wouldn't let drop,
however big their audience gets.

just a thought,

rebecca.

     *****************************************************************

     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 18:43:41 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>

>november 17th, i just hope i'm in town for it.  ellis paul is also
>playing there oct 7th... *plug plug plug*


speaking of ellis paul, he's playing in my neck of the woods (imagine that!!)
at a lil 'ol place called godfrey daniels in bethlehem, pa. on dec 6th. also
at the same place will be dar williams on dec. 3rd. anyone interested in going
should drop me a note, cuz i'll be there, and we can meet up.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo


lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:36:37 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@students.uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: ::eeerie::
x-to:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.950926151304.7463b-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>

most of mine have been coming through blank too...

      rebecca.

     *****************************************************************

     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde

on tue, 26 sep 1995, dianne wrote:

> is it just my mailbox, or are the last few group messages being sent in
> invisible ink?
>
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 15:37:33 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: ::eeerie::

you wrote:
>
>is it just my mailbox, or are the last few group messages being sent
in
>invisible ink?
>
........me too, it told me there was no message... <pout mode on> :<
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 21:32:55 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              imgalileo@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         imgalileo@aol.com
subject:      indigo girls auction

i am auctioning off some indigo girls items...

auction ends 11:59 pm  saturday, september 30.

please remember - cashier's checks or money orders only for payment from high
bid winners. i will update daily.

minimum bid on club r & r  $50

club r & r

three hits promotional cd  - full color picture insert
live cuts "three hits", "joking", "galileo", "ghost",
"jonas & ezekial"   -  2 copies available

4.5 uk greatest hits promo - rare
(15 track fold out custom promo w/ biography of their career)

closer to fine uk release promo - rare
(pulled from production - unreleased)

indigo girls guitar pick

please email privately  - good luck everybody !

let the game begin !
im galileo
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 07:44:47 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...

whoa, teri!  way to go!!
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 22:27:41 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "(eric l. nerino)" <nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.812153242.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

hey!

on tue, 26 sep 1995, bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>ig is music's best kept secret, and i want it to stay that way....

>i like being able to see them in 2,000 seat theatres, rather than 25,000 seat
>arenas or 100,000 seat stadiums......

>i understand that this is extremely selfish of me to say this.....

>if they were to become huge, i bet any amount of money that the label would
>put some serious pressure on them to create some kind of "public image" of
>themeselves that is different from what they currently display......

there's a lot to be said about these concerns and others, i'll try to be very
brief. a valid point is the fact that with popularity and success comes *a_lot*
of extra baggage that is not always pleasant,.....but with it, i believe, comes
the freedom and power to do *a_lot* of good....to open a lot of eyes to
legitimate concerns.....gay rights.....native american issues.....greenpeace...
and the multitude of other social and environmental issues the 'girls are
involved in.....so while we lament the inevitable fact that our 'girls are
growing up....and lots of people are *waking*-up to them, lets be happy that
their success will bring them *more* freedom that will, no doubt, be directed
constructively...and let's help them spread their messages by calling to the
attention of those like rolling stone that just_don't_get it!

peace....smiles

eric      "...don't ya get it....don't ya get it......don't ya get it..."-ar
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 08:37:05 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      uk promo cd...kindof an auction...

hey :):)

ok, so there's a uk one track promo cd of 'closer to fine' for the withdrawn
single earlier this year...it's housed in a recycled card sleeve with unique
artwork...

i may be able to get a few copies, so what i'll do, i'll invite 'blind' bids
from people...so bid what you like, and then depending on how many i can get
hold of (and for how much) then the highest bidders win :):) see??

as a general guide, in this month's issue of record collector magazine, these
are being offered for $15. oh, and bids are going to be inclusive of p+p :):)

thankyou and goodnight :)

@}--,-'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 18:52:08 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
subject:      re: color me grey and lift
in-reply-to:  <199509261432.kaa20782@netspace.org>

on tue, 26 sep 1995, christopher m. becker wrote:

<plug plug plug, even though i doubt i'll be there... :) >

> yep!  that would be "sink the censorship (a letter to jesse helms)" by
> disappear fear, probably off of "live at the bottom line."  which
> reminds me, i just found out about a great concert coming up at the
> somerville theatre (davis sq, boston, ma): disappear fear (sonja and
> the band--no cindy), the nields, and daring angels!!!  i think its
> november 17th, i just hope i'm in town for it.  ellis paul is also
> playing there oct 7th... *plug plug plug*

'twas indeed, off live at the bottom line... :)

> obigc:
>    sherilyn, what happened with your www survey?

oh yeah... that... it's still plugging away...
        http://www.geko.com.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/igsurvey.html
if anyone's still interested.

work's been hell lately and i haven't had time to tally results, i
did start, and i will get back to them real soon...

sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
piquet the cat (piquet@geko.com.au).  aka sherlyn koo (sherlyn@geko.com.au).
"do you wonder why passion's always half impossibility
but lovers that we lose we never dare forget
maybe someday i'll see you in december or in may
in the graveyard of st mary's of regret..."             - susan werner
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 09:56:58 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>

>amazingly enough, (considering we've butted heads in the past - but what's a
>head butt among ig fans?) i wholeheartedly agree.  i can't for the life of me
>comprehend why everyone's whining that a rag like rs won't cover ig.  but
>there is one problem with your idea that corporate music sucks.  ig are on
>a corporate label.  the people who pump pearl jam back ig too.  let's not get
>heady ideas that we're some persecuted kill rock stars/pre-sub-pop outfit of
>purer than thou fans.  we line the pockets of scumbuckets just like mariah
>carey fans do.  we can only be comforted with the fact that ig music doesn't
>suck.  so maybe it's not true that corporate music all sucks, eh?  sad but
true.
>

that's as maybe, but one day their contract will run out, and then i can see
them going the same way as janis ian and joan baez - i.e. signing to a
folkie label (like the irish grapevine label).   or else they might set up
their own a la john prine or billy bragg.   if that happens, people will
have to look harder to find their stuff, and they won't sell as many, and
then people will have a cause to moan, and they won't have access to all the
musos they have now (eg jerry marotta).   think about it.

and for all those people in the us who think they're hard done-by as ig
fans, they should try living here in the uk - almost no-one has heard of
them, except maybe in the gay community, and magazines ignore all their
records and gigs.   for instance:  the nme, when swamp ophelia got released,
waited about three months before reviewing it, and then gave them the honour
of a tiny side-line job saying they were basically an inferior rem and that
they haven't moved an inch since writing "kid fears".   4 out of 10!   (and
other mags were giving them 4 out of 5! - but they still ignored them
otherwise.)   even the so-called "intelligent" mags like mojo don't cover them.

matthew j. smith
mts5@aber.ac.uk
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 10:10:10 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net

>hey!
>
>on tue, 26 sep 1995, bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>>ig is music's best kept secret, and i want it to stay that way....
>
>>i like being able to see them in 2,000 seat theatres, rather than 25,000 seat
>>arenas or 100,000 seat stadiums......
>
>>i understand that this is extremely selfish of me to say this.....
>
>>if they were to become huge, i bet any amount of money that the label would
>>put some serious pressure on them to create some kind of "public image" of
>>themeselves that is different from what they currently display......
>
>there's a lot to be said about these concerns and others, i'll try to be very
>brief. a valid point is the fact that with popularity and success comes *a_lot*
>of extra baggage that is not always pleasant,.....but with it, i believe, comes
>the freedom and power to do *a_lot* of good....to open a lot of eyes to
>legitimate concerns.....gay rights.....native american issues.....greenpeace...
>and the multitude of other social and environmental issues the 'girls are
>involved in.....so while we lament the inevitable fact that our 'girls are
>growing up....and lots of people are *waking*-up to them, lets be happy that
>their success will bring them *more* freedom that will, no doubt, be directed
>constructively...and let's help them spread their messages by calling to the
>attention of those like rolling stone that just_don't_get it!
>
>peace....smiles
>
>eric      "...don't ya get it....don't ya get it......don't ya get it..."-ar
>

sure, eric, but you know what happened to all those hippie types who were so
socially-concerned in the 60s and 70s?   like neil young and bob dylan?
they ended up getting all reactionary and xenophobic during the reagan era,
playing benefit gigs for the poor hard-bitten american farmer and singing
reactionary songs like neil young's "nothing is perfect" which thankfully
never got released.   admittedly "circumstances" have landed the ig's in the
middle of one hot issue in america, but being gay didn't stop david geffen
from being a greedy bastard and from suing neil young for not making him
enough money.   (and joni mitchell went crap when she signed to him as
well.)   money and power corrupts. and saints-to-be amy and emily are human
like the rest of us!

matthew j. smith (i'll think of a quote some-day.   incidentally, can't
sheri stanley think of another quote, a more appropriate one for this list
perhaps?)
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 13:03:46 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: uk promo cd...kindof an auction...
x-to:         mts5@aberystwyth.ac.uk

>
>so that's what happened to this year's release of "closer to fine"!!   any
>idea why, anyone?   they released "least complicated" as a single in 1994.
>did they withdraw that as well?
>

least complex wasn't withdrawn 'cos you could get it at any decent music
store...

closer to fine only made the promotional stage, and wasn't in any stores...
there were three formats...

one track promo in a recycled card case (matching the 4.5 promo...)

and then promo copies of the planned two singles...
closer
mystery (acoustic)
dead man's hill (acoustic)
rockin in the free world (live)

closer
kid fears
all along the watchtower (botby)
left me a fool (botby)


but!!
i think it was sharon who posted that the single was back on the release
sheets...don't know much myself, but....

@}--,---'--

  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:18:19 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deb <indigo@clark.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      rolling stone

"teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu> wrote:

>hello!
>        my understanding is that 1200 curfews is due out on the 3rd and
>watershed is due out the 10th.  i got the curfews date from ice magazine,
>a newsletter published for the cd community.  but newsletters like this
>are always subject to iffy release dates...

ice is reliable; if it isn't released on that date, it's because the label
changed the release date.

>to all those concerned at rolling stone,
>        as a music fan and musician, it is always hard to find
>publications that can walk the fine lines of news, valuable information,
>and blatant trends.  i do see the need for all of the above, because no
>matter what i deem relevant and important, all are a part of what we know
>as popular culture.
>        as an indigo girls fan, you have provided none of the above.

sloppy sentence structure aside, i really don't understand why you want
rolling stone to be something it's not. ig are rarely played on mtv or
popular radio, and by the same token they're not covered very often by
rolling stone (i seem to recall some coverage of jcs in rs). perhaps you
need to buy magazines/newsletters more appropriate to your needs
(performing songwriter, dirty linen, option, ice). rolling stone couldn't
possibly cover every band with a following the size of ig's, and it seems
to me a bit presumptuous to ask them to.

go ahead and lobby for ig, that's great. but i don't think the
antagonistic nature of your letter is justified or helpful.

--
deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 09-26 17:18 est \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo
___________________________________________________________________________
"we've all been removed in one way or another/ we don't know our families/
we don't need our brothers" - amy ray, "pushin' the needle too far"
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 08:30:02 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      outloud for shannon, etc

yesterday i sent one of those "disappearing ink" msgs in response to
shannon's request for more info--here it is so y'all can read it :)

jude


to:             <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
cc:
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from:           rebrad@aol.com
subject:        outloud
date:           saturday, july 15, 1995 18:10:41 edt
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fyi...here's a press release i've just received...

the international gay & lesbian human rights commission

june 28, 1995 attn:   arts & entertainment editors
        music editors

out loud
benefits lesbian and gay human rights around the world

u2, the indigo girls, and throwing muses are among the artists
contributing on the compilation cd, out loud,  an album in support
of the human rights and freedom of lesbian and gay people.
released on the label knitting factory works, the cd will be
released september 20, 1995 with record release parties in new
york city and san francisco.

the out loud compilation cd brings together an eclectic mix of
major label artists and up and coming artists stepping forward
with powerful recordings about freedom, dignity, and honesty - all
to benefit the international gay & lesbian human rights commission (iglhrc).
with seventeen tracks (thirteen previously unreleased) out loud is a
necessity for all fans interested in collecting recordings from artists like
u2 and throwing muses, among others, that can only be found on this benefit
cd.

highlights include kristin hersh's haunting vocals floating over
hard driving accompaniment on throwing muses previously unreleased live remix
version of finished, a rare find as it has never been released in the us in
any version.  with striking harmonies and
profound lyrics, indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers add a
fierce intro to their live acoustic version of this train revised.
u2  joins the benefit compilation with a brilliant, previously
unreleased remix version of cole porter's standard night and day,
with a new techno backbeat that moves the song from its red hot &
blue origins to the dance floor.  british icons everything but the
girl (i don't understand anything) and billy bragg  (sexuality)
contribute previously released songs that take on new life and
power in the context of this compilation.

the entire album is solid with provocative, political, and
entertaining compositions from the gretchen phillips experience,
melissa ferrick, disappear fear, the mekons, voice farm, betty,
the billy tipton memorial saxophone quartet, y'all, the jazz
passengers, girls in the nose, daniel cartier and the judybats.

proceeds from out loud directly benefit the work of the
international gay & lesbian human rights commission (iglhrc).
iglhrc, founded in 1991, advocates for a world in which the most
fundamental rights of lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, transgendered
people, and people with aids and hiv will be respected. part of
this mission is to redefine the global battle for human rights to
include the rights of these people.

as the music industry often serves as a prominent voice for social
issues, out loud was naturally a project for siblings julie and
michael dorf to join efforts on.  julie, the executive director of
the iglhrc, and michael, owner of the knitting factory label and
club, teamed up in june of 1994 to produce the out loud benefit
concert series, held at the knitting factory, to benefit iglhrc
during the 25th anniversary of the stonewall rebellion.  the out
loud cd evolved from this concert series and is the latest dorf
project supporting social issues through the music industry.

for more information or to request pre-release cassettes for
review and/or album cover artwork, contact russ gage at
415-255-8680.

1360 mission street, suite 200, san francisco, ca 94103  usa tel.
1-415-255-8680  fax 1-415-255-8662  email iglhrc@igc.apc.org

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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 07:40:15 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@glaci.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@glaci.com>
subject:      extra cg for sale

hey y'all!

well, i ordered an extra copy of complicated girls from rainy day for a
friend, and that friend had the gall to go and order it himself.  i won't
say any names (flamer), but i wil think twice about doing him any more
favors.  (ok, maybe not. :)

so i am offering it up to the list.  the price of the disk was $24.95 and
one third of shipping (i ordered three) was $1.67.  i am willing to sell it
for $26 to the first person who is crazy enough to send me a check (a
whopping $0.62 off invoice).  i will cover the mailing cost.

so if you are interested, please email me.  i will give it to the first
person (or maybe the cutest :) who replies.

:dwayne

dwayne jarrell (djarrell@ren.glaci.com)
"don't fool yourself into thinking things are simple
nobody's lying and still the stories don't line up"
- ani difranco
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:31:57 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      spirit of '73 and outloud and 1200 curfews...

hey :)

question. what happened to spirit of '73 in britain...i've seen the reviews
but not the disc...what's the story??

i know i could just call up sony, but i can't really be fussed to be honest,
they're pretty cack there...

this train (revised) on outloud. i had a thought...it's not the same version
that's going to be on 1200 curfews is it?? i mean, it could well be...
i guess that would suck...

@}--,--'---

  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 10:57:48 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shannon cassaday <daisyday@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: interactive cd
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of mon, 25 sep 1995 16:49:30 -0700

i'm from jersay- what radiop station was it?
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 15:04:10 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@ph.surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: too many things (not particularly interesting igc...)
x-to:         mts5@aberystwyth.ac.uk

>i never said it had anything to do with neil young.   and what do you
>suppose the "boy that od'd" od'd on?   if it's not a drugs song, what is it
>about?   sewing?


no, but amy said it didn't. it may even be on the 'shades of indigo' cd, she
was saying that it wasn't like the neil young 'needle' that...

i'll find the quote.

then all will be understood...what i was on about, and, more importantly,
what the lass was on about...then everyone will be happy. right??

@}--,--'---

  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 10:56:49 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dawn karbler <karblerd@mcnet.marietta.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dawn karbler <karblerd@mcnet.marietta.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk
in-reply-to:  <199509261052.gaa03850@netspace.org>

hey everyone!  i'm new to this mailing list. this is the first i've heard
of the 1200 curfews lp (yes, i'm ashamed).  does anyone know if it's a
compilation of previous hits, all new material, or a combination of
both?  also, to anyone who had the pleasure of attending the newport folk
festival...how was it?  i couldn't go do to traveling conflicts.

pleasure to make all of your acquaintences...

dawn
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date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 09:17:33 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      ig and heroin...
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

actually matt...amy has said the analogy shouldn't be taken literally in
"pushing the needle too far"  she says it's not to be taken literally
like neil young's "the needle and the damage done".  it's a song about
how people can carry around the pain in their lives and shut down (i
think that's what amy said.

with carpal tunnel in her left hand,
teri
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 08:57:39 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
subject:      re: out loud (not very much igc)

>in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 02:44:55 -0400
>
>what is out loud and does anyone know where i can get a copy? tahnks...
>

http://www.hidwater.com/outloud/

out loud is a benefit cd for the international gay and lesbian human rights
commission which contains 17 tracks, 13 previously unreleased, of which a
live version of the ig song "this train" is one.

julie meloni
dmon@hidwater.com
hidden water ... http://www.hidwater.com/
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 10:05:57 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      rolling stone venting...

i just sent the mailing list a copy of what i sent to rolling stone and
folks seem to be taking my words quite literally.  i thought i'd just
share an example of the frustration t've experienced as an ig fan and i
was just using examples of how the media has focused on certain
celebrities (i.e. vedder, love, weiland) and have ignored ig in the
process.
        take it for what you will.  maybe amy was pulled over with a dui
charge.  maybe emily has set a guitar on fire at some point in her life.
it's not known to the general public, nor should it be.  i'm just
wondering why they don't get equal exposure because they put out good
music and and want focus to be on that.
        we may have out own little curiosities as fans.  hell, i'd love to
know what beer they drink.  i have a bit of a crush on emily...  but we know
and love their music, right?  that's what it's all been about all this time,
and we all know it...  fans put so into the top 10 the week it was released,
right?  the demand is there, but it's obvious that magazines like rolling
stone are oblivious to this demand, while doing articles on sheryl crow and
hootie and whomever.  and i really, truly believe that it's because ig has
never been about personal controversy, no fault of amy and emily or rolling
stone or mtv...but is this any reason to ignore them entirely?  why should
they have to be ignored when all they were (and are doing) was/is being
honest, but keeping private stuff private?
        it's always pissed me off.  i don't think some people who are big
now (huge) put half the heart or soul that amy and emily have.  i'm not
one to mention specific names because it's all my opinion.  but if the
media wasn't so intent on looks, controversy, and trend, a lot more
people would have the pleasure of having this music in their lives...

over vented and tired of life (this particular month),
teri

"i was half the naked distance between hell and heaven's ceiling
and it almost pulled me under..."
                        -emily
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 12:55:37 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
subject:      ok y'all --suggestions...

        here's to all you appropriate song freaks ---

        i was just asked over lunch to play for a habitat something or
other tomorrow evening.  i was told to play more than one song.  ok -- so
#1 is hammer and a nail.  i don't like get together even tho' they
recorded it for habitat, so i won't play that.  any other ideas as to
good themed songs to forma quick set list... i am not used to doing a
themed show...  this request is not limited to ig songs -- is probably
better if suggestions were from other atrists anyway...  anybody wanna
help?  thanks a bunch... phil

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pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu                   "i'm not a coward,
                                              i'm a proud man of sorts.."
http://www.roanoke.edu/~pnorman                         - big fish ensemble
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=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 13:51:40 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      re: too many things (not particularly interesting igc...)
in-reply-to:  <199509261331.jaa16161@netspace.org> from "matthew joseph smith"
              at sep 26, 95 02:31:01 pm

>
> >>
> >>  i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
> >>esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
> >>the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.
> >>
> >im sure i read that amy had said that that song wasn't anything to do with
> >neil young's 'needle and the damage done' and that is wasn't a drugs song...
> >
> >i could be wrong though...
> >
> i never said it had anything to do with neil young.   and what do you
> suppose the "boy that od'd" od'd on?   if it's not a drugs song, what is it
> about?   sewing?

in the shades of indigo interview, amy says that the needle is a metaphor
for both iv drugs and a speedometer, and not a literal reference...


> matthew j. smith
> mts5@aber.ac.uk
>

peace,
bill
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 10:29:02 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: indigo girls auction
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>, imgalileo@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 21:32:55 -0400

i bid $10 for the three hits promo

peace pops

bert
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 07:46:02 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
subject:      disney special

does anyone know anything about a supposed
upcoming indigo girl special to air on the
disney cable channel in the next couple of
months?
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 10:59:04 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: ig on the irc
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of sat, 23 sep 1995 07:59:14 -0700

i saw this message about irc and i figured it was a good time to bring this
up.  i have been on irc for a littlle more than a year, and the channel i use
most often is #indigo-girls.  it is a really cool channel with lots of very
nice people on it, some who are on a regular basis, some who are on every now
and then, and then others who are on it almost all the time.  i would
recommend this channel for those who are interested in talking to other ig
fans and getting to know them and developing irc relationships, but the one
problem that i have found with this channel is that the people on it rarely
if ever talk about ig and their music.  thus, i have decided to create
another option.  if you are interested in actually talking about indigo girls
and their music, go to #ig.  i am not on irc that much, only a few times a
week, but when i go on, i will consistently chack that channel to see if
anyone is on.  anyone else who has irc access should check that channel as
well.  if i am not there, i will probably be on #indigo-girls, but i would
gladly tear myself away from whatever is going on there, to talk ig with
whoever wants to.  so let's try to populate this nchannel as much as
possible.  i am not saying you should boycott or ignore #indigo-girls, in
fact i definitely recommend it, but give #ig a try as well.  tai look forward
to talking to y'all on irc soon.

peace pops

bert
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 10:02:03 -24000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "judith k. hunter" <jhunter@rtc.gov>
subject:      for guitarists only

i was surfing around an ftp site and found a program that might be of
interest to a guitarist-- here is the readme.doc file on it.  if anyone is
interested, i can e-mail the file or give directions to the site. :)

jude
                             tab transcriber
                              version 1.01
                          (c) 1993  michel brazeau
                            overview
     welcome to tab transcriber (tt). this software will convert
the musical information contained in a standard midi file, to
guitar tablature.

     tt can be used for different purposes. for the apprentice
guitarist, it provides a useful tool. a song can be listened to
with a sequencer and a midi set-up, at a reduced tempo if desired,
and with the guitar transcription it is very easy to follow along
in order to learn the song progressively. another use of tt is to
adapt songs for guitar even if they were originally intended for
another instrument. it also provides an inexpensive way to acquire
a large repertoire of guitar transcription since many midi files
are available on computer bulletin boards.

     many programs such as sequencers and scoring software will
convert musical sequences to traditional musical notation. this is fine
for the well trained and disciplined guitarist, put many guitarists
have a limited sight reading ability, since sight reading for a
guitarist is not an easy task: the same note can sometimes be
located at five different positions on the fret board. tablature is
a graphical system of notation which identifies notes to be played
by specifying both the string and fret position. it does not present
rhythm information, but if the song can be heard (the sequence can
be played on a sequencer), if is very easy to "pick up" the rhythm.
                   features of tab transcriber
     -    pitch bend detection.
     -    vibrato modulation detection.
     -    transposition of any track.
     -    variable bend sensitivity.
     -    editing features to modify the transcription according
          to the taste of the player.
     -    recognition of 27 different types of chords in all keys,
          to provide for easy guitar arrangements.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 11:48:29 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>

>1. y'all?

actually, i was thinking "baby", but i like your answer because you're right.
she does say that more than "baby". :)


>2. walk away

you got it!!


>3. more than i have toes

and _that's_ the understatement of the week!

folkisgruven,
l-

lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 12:06:41 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: vent.......venting......vented
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>

>woman participate in that game who isn't wearing something tight and showy,
>who isn't trying to be cute and perky every time the camera is on her, and
>who can actually hit, field, and throw, which i am sure that a & e can
>definitely do.  but more importantly, ig is music's best kept secret, and i

well, the day of the stabler show last april, according to amy, emily was
playing "too much softball" so yep, she doesn't just watch it, she plays it
too. and amy, well, she's just "miss athletic," isn't she?.

btw bert, i can definitely see your point. it would be pretty horrible if they
became like "michael jackson-type-famous."  but 1) i wonder what a and e's
response to all this would be. i bet they are/would be pretty pissed at
rolling stone and the rest of 'em. and 2) even though i agree with your point,
it doesn't excuse the blatant sexism, and favoritism, (and probably a whole
lot of other "ism's") displayed by that rag. maybe a more general comment to
them would be in order about how they singled out 3 or 4 of the (only) 5 or 6
male groups that played at the fest, and mentioned only 1 of the female groups,
which happened to constitute the whole rest of the festival. _and_ that one
female artist happened to be straight. coincidence? i think not.


not arguing, just adding.
folkisgruven,
lorindigo

lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 10:00:40 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: ok y'all --suggestions...
x-to:         "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.90.950926125317.7004b-100000@eclair.roanoke.edu>

i agree! hammer & a nail is one of my own all-time faves... lyrics and
music just wonderful! great selection, mr. mhb!
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 13:01:31 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      folk song demos
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9509231118.a173-0100000@zonk.geko.com.au> from "piquet
              the cat" at sep 23, 95 11:36:23 am

this is an actuall (altho hard to find) release... i think it was for
friends or to go with blue food (i don't even want to try and figure out how
many different versions of blue food i have seen/have) but i got my copy
from a reliable (vic and lisa --- if they still are out in cyberspace--hi!)
source. vic had like every early release (except bband) so that is where i
got it from...i liked it alot...


another question: those of us away from a tower would love to see the origal
cover of blue food (as well as cme if that would ever be possible?!?) can
someone scan them?? i should be able to go up with a ftp site (not to
compete with the nice folks at lifeblood or hidden water, btw) but i will
be connected directly with ethernet, have access to photoshop and corel, and
could make the tape insert (again i haven't seen the article, so maybe i
cant and i will put an indicator that it isn't a "original" blue food) and
make it available via the web or ftp (again i am just waiting for my jack to
be turned on... could be in a second or in a week....)

hopefully that makes some sense...too much typing for one day!
mike r.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 13:02:43 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      (fwd) re: vent.......venting......vented

this went just to me instead of the whole list, so here y'all are:

and for the record, yea bert! on his response.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

______________________________________________________________________________

i did not mean for what i said to be a defense of rolling stone's actions or
the actions of other mainstream media forces like mtv.  it is truly offensive
the way these commodity brokers do business, especially because of the way
they play themselves off as being cool, hip, alternative, and with it, when
the truth is that they are just as lost as time, newsweek, people, and the
new republic, etc..  my response to this is not to buy these rags, not to
watch these channels, and tell other people what you think as much as
possible.  emperor jann wenner and empress kennedy have no clothes.  they are
frauds and should be exposed.  unfortunately, they control the primary modes
of expression, thus we must search for other ways to let the world know that
they are being played for fools.  writing rolling stone will do little or no
good.  but spreading the word that they are a joke and a fraud might in the
long run.  who knows?  are there other mailing lists and bulletin boards and
newsgroups that we can connect to and network with to get our feelings heard
and hear other opinions on this subject.  are there other groups of fans that
feel as slighted as we do?  where do we go from here?  these are the
questions.  does anybody have the answers?

peace pops

bert
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 12:37:49 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      joan baez cd mini review...
in-reply-to:  <4181.199509261215@ph.surrey.ac.uk> from "mr neil hunt" at sep
              26, 95 01:15:39 pm

hmmm....trying not to start a war but...

joan's version of "welcome me" is horrid, i mean it is great until she
actually starts singing part of the guitar solo...i *really* like joan but
i think she could have pulled a much better version off, i have been at
shows where she has sung it much much better...

i looked at the track listing and thought it would have been like a 4 voices
show (sorta...) but it isn't, altho the stuff she does with the ig's rocks
as does diamonds and rust with mcc, but why did she do the night they drove
old dixie down solo??? it was amazing when amy and emily and mary did it
with her....
i haven't heard all of it (bought it rather late last night) but she does a
great version of lenord cohens "suzanne"


new (well not really) ig boot cd: rem "under the moonlight" basically the
9/25/88 athens music fest show..seems like the source is the same source i
have on tape but the source of the cd might be a generation or two from my
source (seems a bit muffled). it is worth tracking down if you want to be a
completeist...rem (proper) isn't anywhere on the disk...the extra tracks are
from the big day festival (i think) with stipe, billy bragg, and natalie
merchant (*swoon* what a lineup) and one of the songs is on the timepiece
video (name is actually " time capsule") from the 10000 maniacs... buy it
for a interesting early (pre epic!) ig show, for the fact it has "hairshirt"
and it is the only cd in existence with a live version of hairshirt on it...
(for you rem freaks like me..)
rem in boston in less than a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mike r.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 12:37:09 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              horhay <gtuft@niu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         horhay <gtuft@niu.edu>
subject:      rookie lister

hey y'all

i brand new to this jazz.
i thought i was a true fan
lord knows, my eyes were opened.

you people know too much stuff.  how can i, a minor entity in the world og
ig, become so knowledgable(is that how you spell that?)?  all i own are the
big cd's, you know ig, sf, nis, rop, so, that stuff.  you all seem to have a
wealth of information on a&e.

i want it.  where is it?
thanx for your time and have a pleasant(is that how you spell that???) tomorrow.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 12:06:09 cdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              naz <nazman@iastate.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         naz <nazman@iastate.edu>
subject:      re: extra cg for sale
x-to:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@glaci.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of "wed, 27 sep 1995 07:40:15 cdt."
              <199509271240.haa26557@ren.glaci.com>

>one third of shipping (i ordered three) was $1.67.  i am willing to sell it
>for $26 to the first person who is crazy enough to send me a check (a
>whopping $0.62 off invoice).  i will cover the mailing cost.
>
>so if you are interested, please email me.  i will give it to the first
>person (or maybe the cutest :) who replies.
>
>:dwayne

hiya dwayne,

i'm probably not the cutest, but i hope i'm the first.... let me know if
so & i'll get the $ in the mail to you!

take care,
naz
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 12:16:38 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
subject:      re: more complicated girls
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.950922131456.6994a-100000@crl.crl.com>

on fri, 22 sep 1995, amy j. putnam wrote:

> perry at rdr has just called me.  he has just received 200 copies of
> complicated girls in teh stre. this could be the last of them so
> get them while they are hot ifyou missed the first go around.
ummm i have tried and tried (i was off the list for a long time) to find
out what the heck complicated girls is and no one answers my
messages....can someone please tell me what this is...and while you are
at it...what 1200 curfew...i think i have figured that it is the new
release but i am not sure.  i am sick so sorry for being so ....slow.
thanks!
stephanie
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 14:27:54 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      house at pooh corner (cover tape)

hey.  i've recently been informed that several people who have the shades
of indigo cd do not have house at pooh corner on it, as i had cited in
the "credits" for the cover tape.

so, i have no idea where this copy of house at pooh corner came from!

margaret
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 11:12:57 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              howard barlow/ssi1 <howard_barlow/ssi1.ssi1@notes-gw.tus.ssi1.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         howard barlow/ssi1 <howard_barlow/ssi1.ssi1@notes-gw.tus.ssi1.com>
subject:      hard to find records

hi everyone,
i have been looking for some vinyl 45 records of the indigo girls.  i have an
old jukebox that plays 45 records.  it would be great to get a copy of anything
by ig or other folk artists.  even though there are still a lot of 45 record
jukeboxes out there, 45 records are getting harder and harder to find.  any
advice would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
-howard (howard.barlow@cdo.ssi1.com)
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 13:37:57 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      bury my heart chords, and what about the words?

i have figured out bury my heart at wounded knee (esp. for guitar...)
(not that it is that difficult.)

any takers?

i'm still shak-e on the words so help with those
would be very appreciated.


thanks,

/~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
|   |_| \-\ |-  |
\__ | | \_/ |_  |
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 13:38:31 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      ultimate ig tape i made

what do you guys think of this? i made a tape of some of my favorite ig
songs  for a friend. keep in mind a couple of things: 90 minute tape, my ig
resources are somewhat limited (i lack a lot of early stuff), i was
in a mood very much on the amy side of their songs, and this person doesn't
know the ig's well:

side a
-------
american tune - houii
kid fears - houii
bury my heart at wounded knee - cgi
reunion - cgi
world falls - nth
midnight train to georgia - cgi
uncle john's band - deadicated
crazy game - houii
melissa - houii
this train (revised) - dowar

side b
------
love of the common people - houii
chickenman - nth
touch me fall - nth
dead man's hill - cgii
mona lisa's and madhatters - houii
tangled up in blue - ???
water is wide - r&r

the code:
houi and houii are history of us, ii being the reverse-1 live stuff...
cgi and cgii are complicated girls, i from glastonbury, ii from phili...
nth is nothing to hide
r&r is club r&r
dowar is days of wine and roses

/~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
|   |_| \-\ |-  |
\__ | | \_/ |_  |
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 11:15:42 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
subject:      re: ig and heroin...
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

>with carpal tunnel in her left hand,
>teri
>

take vitamin b50- it helps, i swear.!!

peace...
pamela
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 11:17:24 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
subject:      oops- oh well!
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

oops that was supposed to be private- but it can't hurt for everyone to know
that wonderful remedy for spending too mush time at the keyboard.  vitamin
b50 really helps carpal tunnel syndrome.

sorry for the nigc...
pamela
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date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 14:45:24 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      cover tape ready, note to cancers

to all cancers:  i didn't forget you:  read the sign chart closely.  it
says that all scorpios or cancers come to me.  thanks!


       well, believe it or not, the cover tape is finally ready!!

what:  cover me grey (title by greg flamer, rock on) is a compilation of
songs that ig have covered and not recorded (with one exception).  it was
put together for pleasure, not profit.  i will be posting this exact
message periodically over the next few weeks.  it has a wicked cool
insert (grey paper--get it?) with artwork designed by ig fans as well as
the lyrics to all the songs included on the tape.  the songs are:

side a
american tune (autzen stadium, eugene, or, 8/22/93)
love of the common people (reverse-1)
cortez the killer (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
summertime (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88, with michael stipe)
bury my heart at wounded knee (radio 1, england, 6/23/95, no band)
bartender's blues (central park, ny, ny, 9/20/92, with sara lee)
water is wide (club r&r)
wild horses (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
thin line (the backyard (soundcheck), austin, tx, 9/1/94)
melissa (shades)

side b
wild, wild party at the loquat tree (put on your green shoes)
southern man (radio city music hall, ny, ny, 6/28/94, with cooper tisdale
        and kristen hall)
house at pooh corner (shades)
daddy's all gone (shades)
river (toad's place, new haven, ct, 12/9/90)
hairshirt (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88)
the weakness in me (live at san francisco epic promo--awesome)
down by the river (live at san francisco promo--awesome)
mona lisas and mad hatters (reverse-1)
midnight train to georgia (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with gail
        andorsey and jimmy descant)
finlandia (the pier, seattle, wa, 8/17/94, with caroline aiken)


some of the songs on this tape are versions that are to die for.  some
are not.  :)  i did the best i could, listening to sometimes 8 different
versions of a song trying to decide which one to use.  i am pleased to
say that there is only one song that, to me, is not extremely good
quality.  this is a bootleg project, though, so don't complain about the
quality of the tape unless you feel that this disclaimer is misleading.  :)


how to get one:  to get a copy of cover me grey, send $5 and a sase to
the appropriate branch of the tape tree (to be discussed below).  the $5
is to cover the cost of the blank tape (maxell xl ii high bias) and the
cost of the *insert* that goes in it.  the sase (a self-addressed, stamped
envelope) is to make the branches' lives easier.  the tape will be sent to
you in the sase that you send your branch, so you probably want to either
send a padded envelope or include packing materials (like newspaper).

if you live outside the united states:  send me private email and we will
work out a trade.  you will not be using the branches from the tape tree,
you will get your tape directly from me.

all profits, if any, will be donated to an organization which works to
reclaim and protect the rights of native americans.

ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)

if you are an aquarius (1/20-2/18), contact:
jude hunter
jhunter@rtc.gov

if you are a gemini (5/21-6/20), contact:
greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu

if you are a sagittarius (11/22-12/21), contact:
joan ferguson
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu

if you are a taurus (4/20-5/20), contact:
pamela shaw
sparkle@primenet.com

if you are a leo (7/23-8/22), contact:
brian colwell
brian@pas.rochester.edu

if you are a libra (9/23-10/22), contact:
mike bunch
mrbcom@earthlink.net

if you are a virgo (8/23-9/22), contact:
martine o'keeffe
okeeffe@lclark.edu

if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
alan fleming
daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com

if you are a pisces (2/19-3/20), contact:
deanna newcomb
deanna@dcez.com

if you are a scorpio (10/23-11/21) or a cancer (6/21-7/22), contact:
margaret clayton
maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

if you are a capricorn (12/22-1/19), contact:
carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu

also, when contacting your branch, make absolutely sure that the subject
line of your message contains the words cover tape (so that the branch
reads it promptly).  i sent this message to the tape tre branches and
cc'ed it to the list, so you should be able to reply directly to your
branch.  please delete all of the other addresses, as most of us don't
want to know that you want a copy of the cover tape (nothing personal).
please do not send requests for the cover tape to the list.  if you forget
who your branch is please wait and i will repost this message in a couple
of days.

well, i think that's it.  if there's anything that i forgot or if you
have any questions, please feel free to send me private email and i will
get back to you.  if i forgot something that warrants another posting to
the list i will do so.  thanks!!!!!

margaret
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 00:32:05 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mschlofner@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mschlofner@aol.com
subject:      guitars and stuff like that

on the 22nd's digest teresa c. esguerra was talking abotu the girl's guitars
(thanks for passing on what you read) and was talking about a "direct box".
the di is used to send the signal to the foh engineer as well as a
micraphone.  that way when the engineer is mixing the sound she or he can
send the "clean" sound from the pickup as well as getting the action of the
strings from the strumming from the mic.  myself i like to use about a 60/40%
mix of pickup to mic up to an 80/20% mix for an "accoustic" song.    i know a
lot of people know this, i just wanted to show off a little(tee-hee).
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 14:32:47 cst6cddt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "michelle m. elliott" <melliott@student.uwsuper.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "michelle m. elliott" <melliott@student.uwsuper.edu>
organization: uw-superior
subject:      1200 curfews

hey everyone,

according to today's usa today, 1200 curfews will be released on
october 10.  sounds like this may have been pushed back a week, or
perhaps was reported incorrectly.  anyhoo...for what it's worth.

can anyone tell me what complicated girls is?  thanks.

take care, all

michelle
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 15:15:36 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart chords, and what about the words?
x-to:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>

yes! i'd love to know bmhawk chords! send 'em to me, or post 'em, or whatever.
and as far as the lyrics go, well, they'll be on the cover of "cover me grey"


folkisgruven,
lorindigo


lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university
bethlehem, pa
                         "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this
                          life inside my chest." -a.r.
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 27 sep 1995 17:01:33 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              imgalileo@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         imgalileo@aol.com
subject:      !st auction update

1st auction update

auction ends 11:59 pm  saturday, october 6th, 95

please remember - cashier's checks or money orders only for payment from high
bid winners. i will update daily.


club r & r ......................................................$65
(sept301955)
--------------------------------------------------------
three hits promotional cd  - full color picture insert
studio version of  "three hits", the rest are live cuts "joking", "galileo",
"ghost", "jonas & ezekial"   -  2 copies available
$25 (dianne)
$20 (rick)
--------------------------------------------------------
4.5 uk greatest hits promo - rare
(15 track fold out custom promo w/ biography of their career)
$25 (carolyn)
--------------------------------------------------------
closer to fine uk release promo - rare
(pulled from production - unreleased)
$15 (carolyn)
--------------------------------------------------------
indigo girls guitar pick... minimum bid $15
--------------------------------------------------------
please email privately  - good luck everybody !

im galileo
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 14:56:30 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
in-reply-to:  <m0sxduq-000k0gc@mail.infinet.com>

>
> "pushing the needle too far" is about pushing limits...not needles. the drug
> reference is strictly metaphor.
>
> -sheri

i agree, although i would say that the reference isn't to drugs at all,
but rather to a pressure gauge needle, pushing too far into the red,
"danger" zone.  i have never seen any hint of drug symbolism in this song
at all.

graham ames             youngbear (irc)
mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu     kindness, joy, and friendship -- the sacred things

        white people are doing things in reverse.
        they think that by going into the sweatlodge
        or buying drums and rattles, they will become spiritual.
        not necessarily.  instead, if you live in a good way,
        you are spiritual.  then, the ceremonies come
        as a means of expression.
                                -rolling thunder

_in the middle of this road we call our life_ -- james w. jones
_care of the soul_ & _soulmates_  -- thomas moore
_life after god_  -- douglas coupland
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:17:24 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              chris v papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris v papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
subject:      re: !!!!!!!***>>>cover tape ready<<<***!!!!!!!
x-to:         maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

well, seeing as i live over here in canada, should i join the tape tree, or
would you like to work something else out?

chris.
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 14:24:02 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: 4.5
in-reply-to:  <199509261050.gaa03721@netspace.org>

on tue, 26 sep 1995, matthew joseph smith wrote:

>
> don't bother.   the record company singled out all the best (i.e. most
> commercial) tracks in the hope of making a big seller.   the albums are much
> better (try nomads... and swamp ophelia for starters).

actually it was their mgr and publicist who picked the songs and
amy and emily did have final approval over the list.  they thought
that the list presented to them was fine and went with that.

>
> when johnnie walker interviewed the girls on radio 1 in england, amy didn't
> even know how to pronounce it.   they had nothing to do with it.

i wodnt say *nothing* to do withit.  more like they wernt as invovled
as they are with, say, 1200 curfews.  teh name of the disc was intended
to represent how many poeple are in the badn two guitars, bass, drums,
and cello (the half).  that didnt quite work out right but they had
the name and stuck with it.

hope that helps to clear things up..

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:42:09 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bkrbkr@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "<maggie e. poulos>" <bkrbkr@aol.com>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...

lorinda and everyone else,
in response to the trivia question...
1. amy's favorite word is baby or sweetheart:)  (uptown)
2. walk away is the baby song
3. and she says it about 1,000 times
see you,
maggie
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:44:55 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "jean m. bardin" <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "jean m. bardin" <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject:      heroin references

hi-
        i'm new to the list and i saw all of the discussion about
possible heroin references in ig songs.  am i the only one who thinks
"the horse drawn on my arm, standing for an addiction" in "keeper of my
heart" is about heroin?  horse is a slang term for the drug.

-jean
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 17:46:15 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: too many things (not particularly interesting igc...)
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>, mts5@aber.ac.uk
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 26 sep 1995 14:31:01 +0100

actually, while pushin the needle is peripherally about drugs, i distinctly
remember reading an interview with amy in which she said that it's about
over-consumption in general, the tendency in a disenfranchised populace to
compensate for loneliness and loss of self with the metaphorical "needle";
heroin, yes, but also other addictive substances.  to say the song is simply
about heroin doesn't cover it.
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 16:15:03 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199509261707.naa26816@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on tue, 26 sep 1995, lorinda wright wrote:

>
> although, at this point i could mention amy's 'baby, baby, baby' song, but
> that's different. :) (hey everyone, trivia question: 1) what's amy's favorite
> word? 2) name the above mentioned song, and 3) how many times does she say that
> word in the above mentioned song?)
> <g>

lorindigo,
        it's got to be the "baby"s from "walk away".  btw, i counted 37
"baby"s when i was listening to the song before i went to bed, but i
could be wrong...

        while we're counting, i was bored in class one day and counted 27
amy songs versus 25 emily songs...this is just including sf, the debut,
nis,rop, and so.  i didn't add songs like "the ballad of squeaky fromme"
or "high horse"...

> oh, and i should add that i absolutely love the letter to rolling stone that
> was posted, and you've inspired me to put in my $0.02 if i can find even the
> smallest amount of time.

        i'm glad you enjoyed it.  did you go for the sarcastic approach too?


peace and hair grease,
teri
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 18:18:02 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      re: your publication and the indigo girls...
in-reply-to:  <199509261105.haa04788@netspace.org>

>   i'm sorry they haven't written a song about heroin, says teresa c.
> esguerra from sacraento, ca.   actually, they have - it's called "pushing
> the needle too far" and it's off the nomads... lp.

gonna have to disagree with you there... it's only about drugs on a
superficial level. the song alludes constantly to modern indulgent or
self-destructive or whatever culture. ms. ray herself has said that the
needle could also refer to a speedometer.

unless you were kidding around, in which case sorry, ignore me.

/~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
|   |_| \-\ |-  |
\__ | | \_/ |_  |
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 26 sep 1995 16:29:01 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: ::eeerie::
x-to:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.950926151304.7463b-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>

dianne,
        i think i'm going blind too, because nothing is showing up on my
screen either...

teri


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