lifeblood: listlogs: 1995-10c


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date:         fri, 13 oct 1995 23:18:05 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      re: "breaking curfew," was 12cc
in-reply-to:  <01hwe876l0qg922txb@tntech.edu>

> yes there is a promo out and it's called breaking curfew. we got it up at our

aha! are they all the identical tracks from 1.2kc?


thaks,

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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 00:43:39 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
subject:      re: devil's advocate
x-to:         smcgill818@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <951013235431_123594859@mail06.mail.aol.com>

> thanks, james!  meaningful conversation can sometimes be lacking here.

then why do you subscribe to this list.  not that i'm offended by you,
but i don't recognise your name, and if you have been a part of this list
for a while, and don't feel fulfilled, why do you feel that other
member's thoughts are "lacking"?

>while
> amy and emily are the most talented singer/songwriters in the biz, they are
> not perfect.

of course they are not perfect.  otherwise they would not be human, and
so real, and down-to-earth.  that's part of why i appreciate them sooooo
much.

as much as we might think so, sometimes we need to offer
> dissenting points of view.  it keeps things interesting.  also, while i know
> that they don't really care for computers, i presume that amy and emilywould
> feel a bit uncomfortable reading all of our raves.  i'm sure that they would
> appreciate "constructive criticism" much more...

well, i don't really care if they are interested in 'puters or not.  i
can't help but rave about them, and if i had any "constructive
criticism", i would throw it out to the list (but i still can't see
anywhere that i would want to do this).  there are so many areas where we
can find interesting things about their work to talk about.  why not talk
about that, and emphises the good parts.  if someone has direct
constructional critisism that they feel needs be said, then they should
say it instead of just talking about it.

> a penny for anyone's thoughts?
> stephen

well, i guess i gave more than my two cents.

ok, i'm getting a bit irretable,(nothing against you stephen)


just feeling very strongly about the girls right now.

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       betsy                     "if the world is night
                                  shine my life   \|/
       macmilla@fit.edu           like a light"  -> <-
                                - emily saliers   /|\
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date:         fri, 13 oct 1995 23:33:23 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      "fish out of water" theory
in-reply-to:  <dhqfwo70s7iz085yn@clark.net>

> >believe it or not, i am not going to flame! :)  actually, i just realized
> >that i never saw a response to the person who asked what 'fish out of water"
> >meant.  i think it's pretty clear that amy feels the style of mttg does not
> >fit her - she doesn't even try to sing on this one!

i think it's because the song is about a fish out of water... the "man"
who is leaving la for georgia because it was too much for him...

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date:         fri, 13 oct 1995 21:35:45 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         tricia <n9243170@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
subject:      black diamond....where are they now.

anyone know what happened to black diamond?  where have they gone?

        t
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date:         fri, 13 oct 1995 23:51:25 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      re: "breaking curfew," was 12cc
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.951013231737.3656a-100000@clarion.cec.wustl.edu>

> > yes there is a promo out and it's called breaking curfew. we got it up at our
>
> aha! are they all the identical tracks from 1.2kc?

sorry, ignore this message... (the answer's yes... i should remember to
read ahead...)

-casey
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date:         fri, 13 oct 1995 22:56:38 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      re: get me off this crazy ride!
x-to:         nme1@axe.humboldt.edu
in-reply-to:  <199510131854.oaa20951@netspace.org>

i know this may be a razy question, but do you by any chance know doug
george, megan schlutsmeyer, vince yorton, or rachel aldrich? they are all
friends of mine who go to humboldt, and since i saw your address on the
indigo girls list, i thought i'd ask.
                        :) emily
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 01:41:13 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      emily and the devil's advocate

james and all...
        i'm trying not to be defensive here.  so let me just add to
conversation with my observations (surprise!  they're positive).
        emily's solo in "touch me fall" is a one take improv deal, from what
i've heard.  i thought it very much represented the mood of the song and
emily's approach was very effective.
        i'm such an admirer of emily saliers' guitar work.  she's an
incredible soloist.  however, part of me laughed whenever she picked up
an electric because she seemed to play it very acoustic-like, her attack
and phrasing.  they're both six string instuments but are entirely
different entities.  so i never was too entranced by her electric guitar
stuff or even her slide work.
        this has changed dramatically over the last few months.  it seems
she has put a lot of work into learning these new ways of playing and
it's paid off big time!  her slide during "jacob's ladder" is very
controlled, disciplined, and tasteful.  i think i overlooked the work in
"joking" too. and as for her plugged in solos, take a good listen on the
studio version of "bury my heart at wounded knee".  then going back, i
really like the approach on "tried to be true".
        my only emily complaint, if i must play advocate too, is that i
wasn't too partial to her vocals onn the earlier albums.  her voice has
opened up so much more, and i like hearing her sing older songs now
because her voice isn't thin-sounding anymore.  must be her jackson5 side
taking over...
        can't change your opinions on certain things.  but i hope noone's
doubting emily's ability.  i don't thiink it was implied or that anyone
is thinking this.  i just love her playing and i think it gets overlooked
sometimes.

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 02:30:27 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: equipment
x-to:         catherine a ettle <ettlecat@pilot.msu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510140104.vaa66241@pilot05.cl.msu.edu>

on fri, 13 oct 1995, catherine a ettle wrote:

> i know this has been posted before but could someone please post what kind of
> equipment amy and emily use? (guitars anps etc)  thanks a bunch!  cathy>

        i posted some information last month.  i'll try not to be so long
winded this time, but i do have some info regarding their electric
equipment as well, so here goes...

main guitars (acoustics) are martin j40s, late 80's models.
        amy also has a d-35 herringbone martin (early 70s), another j40m,
        and a 1949 o-18 martin.  she has also been known to use everett
        12strings, i believe.  kent everett is a atlanta luthier.
        emily also has a 1963 d-35, and has a d-45 limited edition martin
        recommended to her by david crosby.  i think that martin is her
        main guitar when she writes songs these days...

        emily on martins, which seem to be their acoustic of choice:
        "martins are like good wine - they get better with age...i love
         their action adn the thinness of their necks..." (guitar player
         sept 94).

stuff:  strings- amy uses martin mediums and emily uses d'addario lights.
        both use dunlop tortex picks (the yellow ones) and shubb capos.
        lloyd baggs pickup sysstems are installed in guitars.
electrified!!
        everyone can plainly see amy's affection for stratocasters, her
        black finish with white pickguard and her candyapple red one with
        a white pickguard also.  an article mentioned her fender mustang.
        i have no idea if this is a strat or not...i'm not well versed on
        fenders.
        emily plays a yamaha aes 1500.  it's an archtop-type, f-hole and all.
        i personally think archtops are a natural choice for her because of its
        acoustic feel.  an out
        magazine article also mentioned her enthusiasm when she got her
        first les paul, probably a gibson since she doesn't have to buy a
        epiphone to save money in all likelihood.

        when i saw the girls during the honor the earth tour, they both had
        twin combos on stage.  amy was plugged into a fender amp, but it
        a bit too far to see what model it was.  i do know emily was playing
        through a tube combo (amy's was probably solid state), but i
        am not sure of what company put it out.  the only companies i know
        of putting out tube amps with the old yellowish decor are peavey,
        fender (?) or gibson.  if it indeed was a peavey amp, it must have
        been the classic 50 or a little bigger, like a 75 (i think they have
        that size).  my brother has the classic 30, so i'm judging from that.

        i wouldn't go as far to say that ig are so plugged in that they have
        some rack system processing the sound.  if they do, i'd be pretty
        surprised.  but i could have sworn that emily had a pedal setup in
        front of her - maybe even for both her electric and many acoustics.
        i have no idea what would be in the setup- maybe a distortion
        pedal, some chorus thang, a flange pedal, an eq - who knows??  if
        anyone knows about this, i'd love the info myself.  maybe it's a
        board leading to some kind of processor that contains all of the
        above and even more.  i'm more thinking that she jsut had a bunch
        of stompboxes in front of her, hooked together, and i just didn't
        see it behind the stage monitors.  i just saw something in front of
        her that she was stepping on from time to time.

        actually, i would like to see what emily would do with a wah pedal.
        that'd be a hoot.


i guess that wasn't so short afterall.  everyone have a good weekend.

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri

p.s.  the articles i got most of this info from were guitar player (9/94)
      and the acoustic guitar (jan/feb 1991).  some of the information,
        particularly with the acoustic guitar stuff, might be dated.  so
        don't take this as if it were ingraved in stone.
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 03:39:03 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: amy does smoke

you wrote:
>
>on fri, 13 oct 1995, jones wrote:
>
>> threw it on the ground and put it out with her shoe and got on the
bus.
>
>hmmm. so much for environmentalism.
>

.......well actually, she roll's her own so those stamped out butts
are bio-degradable....
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 11:42:21 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: indigo girls live in london on the disney channel....
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

on 14th oct 1995, neil wrote:

>'i sit two stories above the street'
>neil and kirsti are playing the pennywhistle part, and you can see em's
>reaction in the next line, it's just so excellent!! she rolls her eyes and
>smiles, and there's a little giggle in her voice, it's just so cool, and that
>was me!! she looked at me!!! :):)
>

>closer to fine...
>
>so onstage from right to left you have:
>gail ann dorsey (with tambourine)
>danielle howle (with shaker)
>sara lee (with tambourine
>me!!!!!!(with tambourine, and conversing with sara :>:>)
>some other woman...
>emily....and then it gets all a muddle...
>
>so as well as me on the tambourine, then there's kirsti's big moment!!!
>a freeform jazz pennywhistle solo :):)

is this the kirsti who works for bob harris at glr?   she's played
penny-whistle for the igs!   i wish i'd been at the show you were at!

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 11:48:55 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: equipment
x-to:         catherine a ettle <ettlecat@pilot.msu.edu>

>i know this has been posted before but could someone please post what kind of
>equipment amy and emily use? (guitars anps etc)  thanks a bunch!  cathy
>

one of amy's guitars is made by everett, an atlanta lutherie firm.   (in
fact in the adverts mr. everett names amy as one of his star customers.)
both, i think (and certainly emily) play martins.   emily used to play a
strat (she's pictured on the botby sleeve playing one next to cooper) but
now plays an f-holed jazz guitar, an es-175 or an es-350 which is why her
solos drowned the shepherds bush empire in feedback last november during
tmf.   she also plays a dobro resonator guitar (on this train).

they do play others, but these are the ones i've seen.   emily's martin is
pictured on the inner sleeve of the indigo girls album (the shape of the
headstock gives it away).

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 12:06:59 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: devil's advocate
x-to:         "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>

>1. am i the only person who hates southern man, no matter if jesus
>himself recorded it?

no, you're not.   dave marsh wrote an article in mojo magazine last year
generally slagging off neil young (using some pretty dodgy arguments, i must
say - sample:  "young lacks the coherent, consistent world view that marks
the greatest artists, in rock and elsewhere" - i mean, what's this guy on?)
and saying he was a second-rank artist and "the world's greatest dylan
imitator".   in it he accuses young of "self-satisfied liberalism" in
writing southern man and this note's for you.   ronnie van zant of lynyrd
skynyrd wrote in his song sweet home alabama, "i hope neil young will
remember / this southern man won't need him now" (neil wrote a song slagging
alabama as well, btw).

marsh wrote the young chapter in a book published by rolling stone magazine
around 1980 about the great rock legends, and his piece was so mean-spirited
(and in parts factually wrong) that in later editions it was replaced by a
more sympathetic piece.   marsh is often wheeled out to give an
unsympathetic commentary on neil young whenever one is needed - in mojo a
big feature on young was being run, most of it complimentary (sleeps with
angels was just being released) and they got marsh to write "the case
against".   many were not convinced.


>2. i saw the latest tour (after swamp ophelia came out) in
>pittsburgh, pa, and loved it. however, i absolutely *hated* emily's
>solo guitar work on touch me fall. i love the fact they're
>experimenting with new instruments, but though it dull and tedious.
>apparently, the otherwise-enthusiastic crowd agreed, since that was
>the last encore they clapped for. am i alone?

when i saw them play you couldn't hear most of it for the feedback.   those
deep bodied jazz guitars are not made for heavy rock music;  they produce
excessive feedback.   which is why they are not used for the purpose that
often, although steve howe (of yes) has been known to.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 12:21:12 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: equipment
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

>        emily plays a yamaha aes 1500.  it's an archtop-type, f-hole and all.
>        i personally think archtops are a natural choice for her because of its
>        acoustic feel.  an out
>        magazine article also mentioned her enthusiasm when she got her
>        first les paul, probably a gibson since she doesn't have to buy a
>        epiphone to save money in all likelihood.
>

oh, it's a yamaha, is it?   sorry for my mistake ... ignore my comment about
the gibson.   (i thought only gibson, epiphone and ibanez made those types.)

as for les pauls ... it's unlikely a professional muso would cut corners by
getting second-rate equipment.   ani di franco plays an alvarez-yairi
guitar, and they're not cheap, you can get martins for less (although i
don't know the exact price she paid for her alvarez) - and ani is hardly
rolling in it.   guitars are the tools of these girls' trade - i think
they'd want the best they could afford.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 13:48:15 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: indigo girls live in london on the disney channel....
x-to:         mts5@aberystwyth.ac.uk

wait...let me clarify this...least complex, neil and kirsti in the audience,
both of us took out a pennywhistle (spontaneous, like) and from our front row
positions played the five notes required :):)

so emily reacted to this little surprise in the manner described...

and then we got invited onstage to play on closer to fine...now i don't play
the pennywhistle that well, but kirsti (the same kirsti on the bob harris show)
is a flautist, so she can, so she took the solo...(me, i _should_ have asked
for a guitar, but hey...)
i like the way she turned it into a freeform jazz kinda groove :):)

so there you go...

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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 11:23:23 +0000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
comments:     authenticated sender is <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
from:         "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
subject:      re: emily and the devil's advocate
x-cc:         teri bailey <terib@mail.utexas.edu>

>>

> james and all...
>         i'm trying not to be defensive here.  so let me just add to
> conversation with my observations (surprise!  they're positive).
>         emily's solo in "touch me fall" is a one take improv deal, from what
> i've heard.  i thought it very much represented the mood of the song and
> emily's approach was very effective.

you're absolutely right. i should have distinguished this earlier,
but i love the studio version and am disappointed with the live versions
i've heard.

>         i'm such an admirer of emily saliers' guitar work.  she's an
> incredible soloist.  however, part of me laughed whenever she picked up
> an electric because she seemed to play it very acoustic-like, her attack
> and phrasing.  they're both six string instuments but are entirely
> different entities.  so i never was too entranced by her electric guitar
> stuff or even her slide work.

that's what i meant about experimenting. i think when i saw her, and
when the boot i've heard was recorded, she was still getting used to
what really amounts to a completely different instrument. it sounds
like you play guitar, as do i, and i think anybody who's played both
would have to agree.
>         this has changed dramatically over the last few months.  it seems
> she has put a lot of work into learning these new ways of playing and
> it's paid off big time!

just bought the new boot, haven't analyzed it yet. but my general
impression is that you are right.


>         can't change your opinions on certain things.  but i hope noone's
> doubting emily's ability.  i don't thiink it was implied or that anyone
> is thinking this.  i just love her playing and i think it gets overlooked
> sometimes.

anybody who took my original posting as this way is completely wrong.
i wouldn't be picking nits if emily weren't an incredible musician.
on this one item, however, i believe she dropped the ball. big deal.
everybody screws up once in a while. and i enjoy that they're trying
new things.
p.s. i just hate the song southern man. always have, always will, i
guess.
peace.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    james w.
     jwilker@third-wave.com
        caringosity killed the kerouac cat-
        sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 12:47:26 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jaime meisler <jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu>
subject:      re: that record collector article in full....

did em and am really do an unplugged??
please, don't tease me. i am too excited about this if it is true.
if it is does anyone have a copy? i will pay money for it and where
can i get good bootlegs?? ah, questions... sorry, i am kinda
new at this so i am trying to catch up.
ok, one more thing...hmmm...ok two.
has anyone ever met emily and amy who is reading this and if so
are they just as beautiful in person as they sound, i imagine
so. i wish they were frineds of mine. sad that they are not,
it is a dark day here today so i am feeling blue. :(
has anyone written letters to them and had them respond?
if you don't want to take up list space with this
you can e mail me personally: jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
i'm jaime case you were wondering.

       "i thank the lord for the people i have found"

                             mona lisas and madhatters
                              (yeah i know they didn't write it
                               but it was an amzingly performed live
                               by emily and amy)
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 12:53:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jaime meisler <jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu>
subject:      re: newsletter!!!!

i am really excited cause i heard 'bury my heart at wounded knee'
on a local readio staion and then i heard closer to fine which i
have not heard on radio in a while. made me happy,
wanted to share with y'all!

jaime
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 13:08:16 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
subject:      indigo girls on disney channel

does anyone know if the special on the disney channel is going to also be
available on video for those who do not get disney channel.

when is the concert on the disney channel?
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 13:14:57 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      re: that record collector article in full....
in-reply-to:  <01hwfilnqy0y8y8a18@cnsvax.albany.edu> from "jaime meisler" at
              oct 14, 95 12:47:26 pm

>
> did em and am really do an unplugged??
> please, don't tease me. i am too excited about this if it is true.


yeah, they did.  way back when unplugged first started and was hosted
jules shear.  back then, unplugged was not a vehicle for current stars
(nirvana) or rock dinasours (rod stewart, eric clapton, etc.) to release
albums.  it tended to feature lesser known artists (i recall a
particularly fine show featuring the alarm), and got genearlly horrible
ratings.  i think the ig's were on around the time the epic debut was
released...

peace,
bill
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 13:01:49 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia n broz <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      thanks - cover me grey

i just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to the creation of cover me grey.  i got my copy in the mail today, and i just love it.  thank you for sharing your collection of ig songs with me.

thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

alycia
'cause the trouble in my head
is getting closer to my legs
i've got to walk it out
and the trouble with my heart
is that i can't take it out
and the trouble with myself
is that i don't know me
so if you find me
would you kindly show me
the way home                                      - melissa ferrick
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 14:27:58 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
organization: clemson university ilp laboratory
subject:      re: devil's advocate
in-reply-to:  <199510140217.waa04258@srvr.third-wave.com> from "james w." at
              oct 13, 95 10:20:17 pm

hey y'all:

> 1. am i the only person who hates southern man, no matter if jesus
> himself recorded it?

apparently a few others don't care for it either.  i've always
liked it, even though i'm not much for neil young.

> 2. i saw the latest tour (after swamp ophelia came out) in
> pittsburgh, pa, and loved it. however, i absolutely *hated* emily's
> solo guitar work on touch me fall. i love the fact they're
> experimenting with new instruments, but though it dull and tedious.
> apparently, the otherwise-enthusiastic crowd agreed, since that was
> the last encore they clapped for. am i alone?

i'd never describe e's work as "dull and tedious", even if she was
playing spoons!  but i will say that, as far as electric guitar playing
goes, there's jimmy page and then there's everyone else.  but page's
acoustic work lacks.  maybe e's just out of her element -- like a
"fish out of water"?

> 3. i hate the line "like water on a stain" in touch me fall. (which,
> btw, is pretty much my favorite song on that album - i guess that's
> why this one line sticks in my craw.) it's so inane considering amy's
> usual depth. am i so wrong?

well, maybe it's just me, but tmf is the sort of song that's felt and
not heard.  does that make any sense?  anyway, i've never paid much
attention to the lyrics to tmf.

--

greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
"would you trade your words for freedom?"
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 14:33:07 +0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
subject:      re: i have extra pics...
x-to:         christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>

i just got my copy of 1200 curfews, and got one of the jewel box copies
instead of the digipac, and it didn't come with a pic, so if you were able
to hold one for me, i am definately interested.  how can i get it from you?


thanks
jack
________________________________________________________
jack mitchell
jamitch3@vt.edu
106 west eggleston hall
virginia tech
blacksburg, va 24060-0020
phone: (540) 232-6371
http://www.sv.vt.edu/mitchell/

if i could wish for my life to be perfect, it
would be tempting but i would decline, for
life would no longer teach me anything.

                         - allyson jones
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 14:33:32 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
organization: clemson university ilp laboratory
subject:      magic ig radios (was re: thin line on radio...)
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.951013182837.14915a-100000@axis.mtholyoke.edu>
              from "margaret clayton" at oct 13, 95 06:30:26 pm

hey again (twice in one day!),

> hey, everyone!  i heard the ig version of thin line on the radio in
> northampton, ma, today!  i kept looking at the tape (that i have tl on)
> that was resting in the entrance of the tape player (but not pushed in)
> and trying to figure out what was going on!  i pretty much got it when my
> friend yelled at me ("it's on the radio, for christ's sake...  sheesh!!!).

well, your radio just knows what you like!

reminds me.... i was driving around indianapolis shortly after so was
released, and i was (of course) listening to the new album on my car's
tape deck.  "reunion" was playing.  i popped the tape, but the song
kept playing.  huh?  i took the tape out of the deck entirely, but it
kept on playing.  weird!  i finally realized that the station i was
tuned to (wtts 92.3 fm bloomington, in) was *also* playing "reunion"
at exactly the same time!

i had to share that with y'all.

--

greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
"would you trade your words for freedom?"
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 12:28:19 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sarah nuding <drbing@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sarah nuding <drbing@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      you know you're a fan when...

hi y'all!  all your talking about the new releases was making me crazy!

i just had to have the 1200 curfews tape.  went to a nearby circuit
city, just to see if the cassettes were available (only have a cassette
player, you see...)  well, no tapes available, and when i saw the cd
.. howard wrote that he knew he was a fan when he bought the 1200 cd
and he didn't even have access to a cd player ... i went one better, i
bought the cd and i didn't even have a player apart from the one in my
computer!  well, then i did the only logical thing .. i bought a cd
player.  and a portable one at that, so i could plug it into my car
stereo and actually listen to it immediately.  (credit cards are
dangerous things..)  so i get my booty out to the car and then drive
like a maniac to radio shack to get a cord to connect cd player to
radio.  rip open the cd and christen the player with 1200c!  i blared
the music, sitting there in the parking lot and then driving home,
trying to figure out all the cd buttons... (never played with one
before!), then i realized that i was only getting one channel!!!  went
back to the store, turns out there was a short in the cord, and now i'm
the proud parent of my first player ... and only about $200 in debt!

but it's worth every penny - reminds me of the great ig experiences
i've had in the past, like finding out about the list and the kansas
city concert a few months back ... - hi lawyerman, teri, all you crazy
midwesterners!!  i'm down in st. pete florida now, but i hope you'll
plan long roadtrips (eddie!)


sarah   (drbing@ix.netcom.com)
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 16:46:17 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jennifer courage <102571.1704@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer courage <102571.1704@compuserve.com>
subject:      canadian 1200c release

hi everyone,

just to let any other canadians who are waiting in agony for 1200c to be
released, it is supposed to be out on oct 17.  i'm not sure about watershed, but
hopefully  it will be released at the same time.  i think they are trying to
torture us!  i can't wait to hear it after hearing all the rave reviews!

3 more days...

jennifer courage
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 13:55:41 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: equipment
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

on sat, 14 oct 1995 mts5@aber.ac.uk wrote:
>
> oh, it's a yamaha, is it?   sorry for my mistake ... ignore my comment about
> the gibson.   (i thought only gibson, epiphone and ibanez made those types.)
>
> as for les pauls ... it's unlikely a professional muso would cut corners by
> getting second-rate equipment.   ani di franco plays an alvarez-yairi
> guitar, and they're not cheap, you can get martins for less (although i
> don't know the exact price she paid for her alvarez) - and ani is hardly
> rolling in it.   guitars are the tools of these girls' trade - i think
> they'd want the best they could afford.

hey mat,
        alvarez's are great guitars.  they have lower lines even in the
$300 dept., but i think that they get pretty high in price.  i do know
that the martins that amy and emily use are a fistful.  the 1994 models
of the j40ms list for about $2800.  the limited edition d-45 martin emily
has must be astronomical inn price considering that only about 50 of 'em
were made by the company.  you might even be looking at prices near (or
perhaps over) $10,000!
        i need money...

aiming to please the girlies,
teri
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 15:58:40 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "leslie d. marciniak" <lmarcini@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "leslie d. marciniak" <lmarcini@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
organization: calgary free-net
subject:      re: canadian 1200c release
x-to:         jennifer courage <102571.1704@compuserve.com>
in-reply-to:  <951014204617_102571.1704_hhu52-1@compuserve.com>

on sat, 14 oct 1995, jennifer courage wrote:

> hi everyone,
>
> just to let any other canadians who are waiting in agony for 1200c to be
> released, it is supposed to be out on oct 17.
> jennifer courage

thanks, jennifer.   i checked out all the music stores in calgary
yesterday with no luck.  the only thing anyone could tell me was that it
was supposed to have been released on oct. 3, but they had no idea of
when it would arrive.  i appreciate the info! :)

leslie.
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 18:19:45 +0000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
comments:     authenticated sender is <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
from:         "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
subject:      interesting newsgroup post.

for those of you who don't read the usenet indigo girls group, i
figured someone here would be able to
answer this guy's question.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

from: "john s. reineke" <reinekej@mail.utexas.edu>
organization: university of texas at austin


i recently read somewhere that sioux joined the girls on stage at a show
and sang with them.

does anyone know about this?  does anyone have this captured on
audio/video?  please let me know..


daniel s.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    james w.
     jwilker@third-wave.com
        caringosity killed the kerouac cat-
        sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 18:52:13 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      power of two single

quick question about the power of two single....is it worth buying just
for the live "keep on rocking in the free world?"  saw it toady for a
reasonable price, but passed it up 'cause i already have the three studio
tracks on it...

and to the person who said something about 1200 curfews restoring your
passion for the indigo girl's music, i say amen.  my tastes lately have
been running towards "louder" music (with the odd dip into kristen hall's
older music).  every so often, i'd listen to an old indigo girl's record
(or more frequently, a boot), but i have to admit, i was growing a bit
weary--i'd played them too much.  1200 curfews feels so fresh...

oh, and to the person looking for 1200 curfews in lynchburg, va, i saw
jewel box copies (grrr, i bought the damn digipak) in the record store
that isn't blockbuster music at the river ridge mall (sorry, don't recall
the name) for about $20.00

peace,
bill
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 19:10:33 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>

hello everyone:
     i'm new to this board so i might have missed this topic, but i have a
question:  in touch me fall, off the swamp ophelia album, what is amy saying
in the middle of the song under the electric guitar?
               thank you,
                jessie
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 18:21:55 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>

at 05:22 pm 10/13/95, jo norvelle walker wrote:

a is entitled to a private life, but
> she is a public person, and as such i think she has some responsibility as a
> role model not to be pictured smoking on an album insert.
>
>
> jo

hogwash.

as much as i enjoy their gift and talent of music, they are hardly
mainstream and doubt their fans are young enough to need social guidance
and to be told what is good or bad for them. i too find tobacco use to be
extremely dumb and unglamorous, but the indigo girls are not role models.

dale saukerson
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 21:10:36 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "(eric l. nerino)" <nlyng@postoffice.ptd.net>
subject:      digipak defense
in-reply-to:  <199510142252.waa07844@soulcage.inmind.com>

hey!

>(grrr, i bought the damn digipak)

there seems to be alot of bad feelings about the packaging.........
i think it's kind of cool  :)

a little care and it will hold up just fine.....

peace....smiles

...eric
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 21:24:21 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>

at 06:21 pm 10/14/95 -0500, dale saukerson wrote:
>at 05:22 pm 10/13/95, jo norvelle walker wrote:
>
> a is entitled to a private life, but
>> she is a public person, and as such i think she has some responsibility as a
>> role model not to be pictured smoking on an album insert.
>>
>>
>> jo
>
>hogwash.
>
> as much as i enjoy their gift and talent of music, they are hardly
>mainstream and doubt their fans are young enough to need social guidance
>and to be told what is good or bad for them. i too find tobacco use to be
>extremely dumb and unglamorous, but the indigo girls are not role models.
>
>dale saukerson
>


perhaps not role models for you, dale -- however, several people have posted
here that they first got turned on to ig as teenagers, have they not?  i
never said that i thought ig were "mainstream."  and i do not see what being
"mainstream" has to do with being a role model?

having said that, i should add that i have since looked carefully at the
picture in question with a high quality photographic magnifier and conclude
that a probably was not smoking at the time.  certainly she is at least
entitled to the benefit of the doubt.  i shall now fault her only for
including ridiculously small photographs on an album insert.


jo
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 19:03:55 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: power of two single
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510142252.waa07844@soulcage.inmind.com>

on sat, 14 oct 1995, william norris wrote:

> quick question about the power of two single....is it worth buying just
> for the live "keep on rocking in the free world?"  saw it toady for a
> reasonable price, but passed it up 'cause i already have the three studio
> tracks on it...

bill,
        i thought it was worth it.  "rockin' in the free world" is a
great track that probably could have made it to 12k (the curfews
abbreviation i adopted...how trendy).  but you're talking to a biased
source cause emily's vocals in it drive me crazy!!

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 21:50:52 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "sabrina (should be studying)" <schan@owlnet.rice.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "sabrina (should be studying)" <schan@owlnet.rice.edu>
subject:      disney special


hi all,
i was just looking back in some old mail, and is it true that the first
showing on the disney channel is tomorrow (sunday the 15th) at 9 eastern?
wow! and i just found out tonight that our college's cable system carries
disney for free! i'll be finding someone with a tv tomorrow.... :)
sabrina

all the doctors think there's a problem
is there something wrong inside?
of course there is, everone's got
some kind of scar to hide...
-billy pilgrim  don't know much
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 23:23:20 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              marciatodd@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michele stockert <marciatodd@aol.com>
subject:      re: what is amy doing?

i don't care one way or another if amy smokes. however, i would like to make
the suggestion that maybe she is just pressing her hand to her lips in this
photo. i can't really see anything between her fingers.

michele
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 22:33:32 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              heather givans <givansh@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         heather givans <givansh@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      re: power of two single
x-to:         wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com

         in reponse to  william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>:
quick
quick question about the power of two single....is it worth buying just
for the live "keep on rocking in the free world?"  saw it toady for a
reasonable price, but passed it up 'cause i already have the three studio
tracks on it...

see, keep on rocking in the free world is good.  hey it even inspired my sister
who is anti-indigo girls to reconsider her position concerning the duo.  she
thought it was rockin.  but, i'm not sure it is worth a whole lot of money.
the reason i have it is because one of my friends passed the demo cd to me
from her place of employment.

i say buy it if it is used or extemely cheap--  i'd buy sarah mcl's single
drawn to the rhythm instead.  (as if you wanted an alternative)  "sunday" is
a pretty good deal.  check it out.

-heather g.
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 23:59:58 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mjg333@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mjg333@aol.com
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 11 oct 1995 to 12 oct 1995

hi everybody,

   can anyone tell me about the post on "breaking away?"
i have a macintosh and whenever i try and read my all my posts after i
download, it says only the first portion can be viewed, does anyone else have
this problem? is there a way to change from the digest version, if that's the
problem....?  so i receive the whole list so i can see the topics but i don't
get to read them all. i saw something on a new ig promo called breaking
away...

thanks !

mj
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 23:47:33 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr spoon <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr spoon <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: power of two single
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510142252.waa07844@soulcage.inmind.com>

well, *i* think 'rockin' in the free world' is excellent.  i'd buy the
single for that if it's not going to cost a fortune.  i've seen the same
song on a k's choice single too, for a reduced price (it was under $1).
i think emily's verse in the song is great -- she's trying *so* hard :)
-- she (and amy, of course) rocks!

rebecca.

     *****************************************************************

     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde
=========================================================================
date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 23:51:53 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>

>at 05:22 pm 10/13/95, jo norvelle walker wrote:
>
> a is entitled to a private life, but
>> she is a public person, and as such i think she has some responsibility as a
>> role model not to be pictured smoking on an album insert.
>>
>>
>> jo
>
>hogwash.
>
> as much as i enjoy their gift and talent of music, they are hardly
>mainstream and doubt their fans are young enough to need social guidance
>and to be told what is good or bad for them. i too find tobacco use to be
>extremely dumb and unglamorous, but the indigo girls are not role models.
>
>dale saukerson
>

with all of the controversy over smoking, i would hate to know what would
happen if amy was pictured kissing another woman?  i mean, come on guys,
it's just a cigarette.  if amy wants to smoke let her smoke.  and if you
don't like to see amy smoking, don't buy her albums.  and, if people are so
mindlessly led by rock and roll stars to pick up smoking because they see
amy ray do it, then it's their problem, not amy's.

so, back off, guys.

scott


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen...
oh how i wished i were a trinity, so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live
but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal
to let this love survive would be the greatest gift we could give..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 22:47:43 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              melissa bailey <melis933@uidaho.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         melissa bailey <melis933@uidaho.edu>
subject:      re: power of two single
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510142252.waa07844@soulcage.inmind.com>

hello y'all!

> and to the person who said something about 1200 curfews restoring your
> passion for the indigo girl's music, i say amen.  my tastes lately have
> been running towards "louder" music (with the odd dip into kristen hall's
> older music).  every so often, i'd listen to an old indigo girl's record
> (or more frequently, a boot), but i have to admit, i was growing a bit
> weary--i'd played them too much.  1200 curfews feels so fresh...

i couldn't agree more .... i've been following the ig since 1989, have
seen them twice in concert and have played them damn near all the way
through college ......  however, i bought 12cc yesterday ..... my
only response is wow!  it's excellent album ...... i love the liner notes,
pictures, chattering between songs ect!  anyway, enough rambling

peace
melissa
melis933@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu
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date:         sat, 14 oct 1995 23:07:17 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laura dugas <gecko1@asu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laura dugas <gecko1@asu.edu>
subject:      unsubscribe

please get me off of this crazy newsgroup...it is clogging up my incoming
messages!

thank you.
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 12:35:29 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>

from jo and dale:

>at 05:22 pm 10/13/95, jo norvelle walker wrote:
>
> a is entitled to a private life, but
>> she is a public person, and as such i think she has some responsibility as a
>> role model not to be pictured smoking on an album insert.
>>
>>
>> jo
>
>hogwash.
>
> as much as i enjoy their gift and talent of music, they are hardly
>mainstream and doubt their fans are young enough to need social guidance
>and to be told what is good or bad for them. i too find tobacco use to be
>extremely dumb and unglamorous, but the indigo girls are not role models.
>
>dale saukerson
>

let's face it, no-one complains about joni mitchell smoking, do they?   mind
you her voice isn't as good now as it was back in the 70s, but she's 52!
she was once pictured next to neil young singing with a fag in her hand!

i find smoking a bit of a turn-off too but it's amy's life ... maybe she'll
quit soon.   i don't think she needed an ash-tray on stage, so it's not like
she smokes like a chimney.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 12:00:28 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              guinione@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         guinione@aol.com
subject:      nigc !!!  --> commonbond ..

hey all - just a quick note ... to anyone who might have been planning on
catching marybeth and ashley in philly this weekend, please note that they
were also scheduled to play at hepburns (or harmony ? i heard it has new
owners) on november 4th, but because they cancelled last nights show - they
would not be allowed to play there again ... i think this is bogus - the
owner must be out of his mind, because commonbond was a very big money-maker
for weekend business ... but they are trying to get a chance play at lefemme
(sp?) on nov 4th instead ... for all interested, i'll keep ya posted ...

thanks for reading if you got this far :)

chris alias the guini-meister
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 13:44:10 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         "dale saukerson (dale saukerson)" <sauke001@gold.tc.umn.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v02130501aca54de48d84@[134.84.101.166]>

on sat, 14 oct 1995, dale saukerson (dale saukerson) wrote:

>  as much as i enjoy their gift and talent of music, they are hardly
> mainstream and doubt their fans are young enough to need social guidance
> and to be told what is good or bad for them. i too find tobacco use to be
> extremely dumb and unglamorous, but the indigo girls are not role models.

in an effort to stop a possible flame war before it begins, i think that
most people on this list would agree that they are, in fact, role
models.  every one of us is a role model to someone, whether we know it
or not.  we all look at each other for guidance, it's just the degrees
that vary.

margaret
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 15:25:20 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              chris mcmahon <libcm@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris mcmahon <libcm@emory.edu>
subject:      big yellow taxi (for neil), southern man (for devil's advocate)
in-reply-to:  <9510140411.aa21565@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>

hey neil...
    big yellow taxi was a staple of emily's solo shows before she and amy
started playing together. it was featured prominently in their early
shows, as they were writing original material. i played it many times...
    hey devil's advocate... too much of that advocate stuff, and people
around here will hand you your virtual head, and/or other parts- i been
there, i know, to quote wolfman jack from the clearasil ads...  but what i
really want to do is tell this story about "southern man": you know, i
assume, that the lynrd skynrd song "sweet home alabama" was a direct
refutation of uncle neil's "southern man". apparently, shortly after its
release, an interviewer asked neil young for his reaction to being named
explicitly in "sweet home alabama". neil young's response was "i'm proud
to be named in a song as good as 'sweet home alabama'"
      now that's class...
-chris

              visit
http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/milkenzie/
              please
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 15:16:58 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      tangled uib debate on 12c

ok i must have this settled.  certain friends of mine on this list (dumb
cheeseheads :)  ) insist that our own emily saliers is singing the "livin
down on montegue (sp?) street" part of the song tangled up in blue on 1200
curfews.  now i am insistant that it is michelle malone.  yes mm is not in
the linear notes.  yes she is not credited at the end of the song by a or
e.  but no way is e singing that part.  i have lots of boots where mm sings
that part and it just has to be her.  i love emily but i don't see her
vocally being able to perform some of the parts of that song.  would
someone who is sure of this please step forward and settle my debate.  it's
michelle.  i'm telling you it's michelle.  take care

greg

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!*
# greg m. flamer               northwestern university   @
* 819 forest ave. #2w          mfm520@lulu.acns.nwu.edu  $
& evanston, il  60202          gflame@nwu.edu            *
^                                                        &
*                                                        %
&  "when you're learning to face the path at your pace,  $
$     every choice is worth your while"---indigo girls   @
#                                                        *
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*%$
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 15:09:00 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      major 12c editing

hi y'all--i'm back to prove to whoever cares that there was some major
editing on 1200 curfews.  i mean they really did a lot of cutting and
pasting.  ok--picture this...you're listening to disc 2 track 6.  the song
is mystery.  you hear the following dialogue intro to the song:

e: we're discussing our setlist to see if we can put your song in there.

a: there's a small child asleep up here.  it's very sweet.

e: aww

a: oh not asleep...oh i see just shy (laugh)
   no you can sleep it's ok.

e: wow--how old are you?
   she's that many.

a: eight...eight

e: that's neat

a: that's pretty good--your rock n' roll show's at 8 years old--that's
pretty good --you're doin good

song begins

now the actual intro and conversation has more dialogue.  it was from the
chicago show of 9/29/94 which they apparently took a few song intros from.
that dialogue is as follows:

same as before up to "no you can sleep it's ok"

e: front row seats.  yee-haw!

a: i would sleep if i were you

e: wow how old are you?
   she's that many

a: eight ...eight

e: that's neat

a: that's pretty good...your rock n' roll show's at 8 years old...that's
pretty good ..you're doin good.

e:  my first concert was john denver (oh not him again :-)  )

a: me too--we must've been at the same show

e: yeah i was 13.

song begins

now why would they edit the i'd sleep if i were you and the john denver
stuff?  who did all this editing anyway?   you know you're an ig fan when
you spend a half hour typing out a post like this :).  bottom line is there
was a damn lot of editing on these cd's.  later y'all

greg

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!*
# greg m. flamer               northwestern university   @
* 819 forest ave. #2w          mfm520@lulu.acns.nwu.edu  $
& evanston, il  60202          gflame@nwu.edu            *
^                                                        &
*                                                        %
&  "when you're learning to face the path at your pace,  $
$     every choice is worth your while"---indigo girls   @
#                                                        *
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*%$
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 13:56:41 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      re: smoking
in-reply-to:  <199510150124.vaa26701@pluto.njcc.com>

on sat, 14 oct 1995, jo norvelle walker wrote:

> never said that i thought ig were "mainstream."  and i do not see what being
> "mainstream" has to do with being a role model?

yeah! i was wondering myself where that leap of logic came from...?

> that a probably was not smoking at the time.  certainly she is at least
> entitled to the benefit of the doubt.  i shall now fault her only for
> including ridiculously small photographs on an album insert.
>
no! you were going to "fault" her? for doing something you personally don't
agree with?
everyone seems to be jumping on this like it's ok to be shocked and
appalled if she is <gasp> smoking.  bfd, i say. comments on this list
are rarely self-righteous, but this 'is amy smoking?' thread has brought
out some major holier-than-thou attitudes. some of us smoke. shake it
off, my god!

question: which parts of tupinb did y'all not understand the lyrics? or did
you already figure them out?

next question: what is the 'car' in chickenman?

linda
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 16:30:31 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      re: wowzers!
x-to:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951015134856.17682b-100000@aludra.usc.edu>

i just got my 1200 curfews cds and i'm overjoyed!  i know that this
ranting and raving is a little late, but i felt like i just had to say
something about it!  my favorite parts are emily's solo in language or
the kiss and bury my heart at wounded knee.  and emily's intros are so
cute!!!  now the only thing that can make me happier than sitting in my
room listening to the cds would be sitting in a auditorium listening to
the igs live!!   come to texas!!  come to texas!!

in bliss,

jamie suthard

                "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
                                        -- indigo girls
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 17:39:44 -0400
reply-to:     jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
subject:      magical mystery tape tour

i got this idea from someone on another forum, but i really like it..
:)  here goes..

there seem to be some people who want a copy of the disney channel
special but don't have cable.  i have cable and a vcr.  i will tape
the special.  anyone who wants a copy will send me their mail
address.  i send the tape to the first person on the list.  they copy
it (borrow a vcr from a friend or something) and send it along to
the next person.  after everyone has copied it, and everyone has
a second-gen, i get my tape back.. :)

anyway, anyone interested in being on the tape tour, send me mail with
the pertinent info...  whee!!

    -jude

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
jude shabry | hey_jude@brown.edu | they called me mad, and i called them mad,
<http://www.netspace.org/~jude/> |     and damn them- they outvoted me!
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:51:03 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      these unsubscriptions

why is it always the people we never hear messages from that keep sending
these "get me off the list" messages?

anyone else out there want to make a contribution before we see the first
and last of you?

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:59:40 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: wowzers!
x-to:         jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>

>my favorite parts are emily's solo in language or
>the kiss and bury my heart at wounded knee.  and emily's intros are so
>cute!!!
>
>jamie suthard
>
i love emily's guitar solo on "language or the kiss" (the studio version)
even though the song took a long while to grow on me - it has a real warm,
direct sound, as if someone is actually playing it, instead of it just
coming out of a speaker - anyone get what i mean?   especially when the
notes get quieter as the pull-offs get less powerful (guitarists will
understand this!).   and how, on the live version, do they compensate for
the lack of a piano?

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 18:09:36 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              wingstar@mulberry.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat stark <wingstar@mulberry.com>
subject:      re: smoking

i am having a hard time believing all the responses about amy"s smoking (if
indeed that is what she is doing)  can everyone out there who has negatively
responded actually say that everything they do is utterly healthy?  drinking
is right up there as a health risk, along with a list far too big to
mention.  everyone hase their vices, we're all only human.

just my own thoughts for today

pat
wingstar@mulberry.com

                "adding up the total of a love that's true
                   multiply life by the power of two"
                               es

                  "nobody gets a life time rehersal
                  as specks of dust we're universal"
                               es
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 18:17:44 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jasmine ma <gbxj07e@prodigy.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jasmine ma <gbxj07e@prodigy.com>
subject:      curfews

a friend pointed this out to me- in the live bmhawk on curfews, when
amy starts singing, she sounds aheckofa lot like melissa etheridge...
thoughts?
jasmine
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 23:28:07 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              fiona sanderson <fionas@rmplc.co.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         fiona sanderson <fionas@rmplc.co.uk>
subject:      desperately seeking...
x-to:         wingstar@mulberry.com

please somebody...anybody...near essex, come and play guitar (tin whistle
even). i can play a good fugitive (!)
one sad and desperate person (btw a non smoker, this seems important these
days:) )
fiona

there's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked line
there's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked
line...
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 18:27:05 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      re: tangled uib debate on 12c
in-reply-to:  <v01510101aca728fe5e0d@[129.105.9.189]> from "greg flamer" at oct
              15, 95 03:16:58 pm

>
> ok i must have this settled.  certain friends of mine on this list (dumb
> cheeseheads :)  ) insist that our own emily saliers is singing the "livin
> down on montegue (sp?) street" part of the song tangled up in blue on 1200
> curfews.  now i am insistant that it is michelle malone.  yes mm is not in
> the linear notes.  yes she is not credited at the end of the song by a or
> e.  but no way is e singing that part.  i have lots of boots where mm sings
> that part and it just has to be her.  i love emily but i don't see her
> vocally being able to perform some of the parts of that song.  would
> someone who is sure of this please step forward and settle my debate.  it's
> michelle.  i'm telling you it's michelle.  take care
>

fall 1992, rights of passage tour, the mean fiddler, london, england.
standing just at emily's boots.  emily sings that part of tangled and it
souds like it does on 1200 curfews--she really got into it...

> greg
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 17:42:49 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:      smoking and midnight train...

i agree with greg...it is for sure michelle malone singing on the bluesy
part at the end.  in fact, read the quote in the liner notes that goes
with that song...they talk about doing the bluesy part with mm and drag
the river...as powerful as em's voice has gotten over the years, i just
don't think it could possibly be hers.

also, considering that i was the one that confirmed that, in fact, amy
does smoke, i thought i would at least check out the picture that
everyone is so excited about.  i honestly don't see anything in her hand
and she is just got her hand over her mouth as if she is contemplating
something.  besides, although i'm not a big fan smoking either, give it a
rest...it is her life.

carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 00:12:31 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: desperately seeking...
x-to:         fionas@rmplc.co.uk

hey :)

i guess guildford with a dead ex-car doesn't count as near essex really...
but if it's the closest you get...:):)

guitar (badly), tin whistle (five notes), bass...bass is good. i like my bass,
susan, (susan my bass, not susan a person. my guitar is called stephanie by
the way...). i think i even got grade five piano once upon a long ago, but you
couldn't tell that now...need to work on language or the kiss :):)

@}--,-'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 19:22:26 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              joeearls@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joe earls <joeearls@aol.com>
subject:      re: newsletter!!!!

jaime

i am new to the net and i love the ig's, and learn to sign on.but with the
album i am getting buried with my own mail, can't  get  my own mail....

i just picked you at random because yours said "newsletter".....would be
please be so generous as to tell what to type to get off?

i am lost and desperate. in the spirit of the girls?

thanks je
=========================================================================
date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:02:33 +0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              megan krewatch <mkrewatc@vt.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         megan krewatch <mkrewatc@vt.edu>
subject:      re: these unsubscriptions
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

>why is it always the people we never hear messages from that keep sending
>these "get me off the list" messages?
>
>anyone else out there want to make a contribution before we see the first
>and last of you?
>
>mat
>mts5@aber.ac.uk
>
could you please tell me how to get off the list.  it is clogging my
computer sysytem.

thanks,
megan krewatch
mkrewatc@vt.edu
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 21:54:44 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mjg333@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mjg333@aol.com
subject:      ig on disney

ok, so i ordered disney, just to see the girls in london, and guess who
didn't realize today was the 15th....hmmmmm
could only be me :)

so does anyone else know when disney is going to rerun the show...help !!!!!
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:10:24 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
subject:      re: ig on disney
x-to:         mjg333@aol.com

i was told that the ig's were goint to be on disney on:
        oct 15  9:00
        oct 27  10:30

        nov 14  10:30
        nov 16    9:30
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:11:10 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc: commonbond cancellations
x-to:         jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
in-reply-to:  <01hwefadcqvm8y88di@cnsvax.albany.edu>

on fri, 13 oct 1995, jaime meisler wrote:

> hi!
> i'm jaime and i just found this list.
> can you tell me where the indigo girls are going to be playing this week
> and the next couple of weeks. i heard they were finished touring.
> help, i need to see them again!
> thanks!
>
hi!
send me info too!
are they going to be anywhere in the mid-west anytime soon?
thanks,
linda
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:13:58 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              the muse <divrsit@infi.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         the muse <divrsit@infi.net>
subject:      the disney show

evening all,

i hope everyone out there in ig land got a chance to catch the show.  i
thought it was really good, but way too short.  i just have one question:
who was that ultra-cool dude playing the tambourine next to sara?  ;-}

way to go, neily!  :)

@}--,-'---

peace,
robin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
yesterday is history; tomorrow is a mystery;
today is a gift.  that's why we call it the present.
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 21:16:20 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              cindy trent <ctrent@nslsilus.org>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cindy trent <ctrent@nslsilus.org>
subject:      remove from list

please remove my email address from indigo girls mailing list.

thank you
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:18:05 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              guinione@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         guinione@aol.com
subject:      em's tangled ...

as many times as i've seen them perform this live, it's always emily singing
- amazing voice, quite powerful ... i've also checked several boots with tuib
on it and i'm pretty sure mm hasn't been at every show they've performed this
song at ... my vote is that it's em singing on 1200c ...

chris
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:03:33 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 at 12:00
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510132138.vaa01733@soulcage.inmind.com>

on fri, 13 oct 1995, william norris wrote:

> >
> > i'm a straight guy fan...lived the ig"s before i "knew"...had trouble (?)
> > adjusting when etheridge came out...she is (was) so hot...a role
> > reversal....now,  with ani dif., my three favorite artist are gay women. (is
> > that right? or is it always lesbian?)
>
> i'm really trying to hold back some anger here, because i get the
> impression you're trying.  but, why is melissa no longer "hot?"  because
> she's a lesbian?  that changes her looks?
>
> i will not be complacent,
> bill
>
hi.  my name is linda and i'm new to the list.  i just wanted to say that
i don't think that bill (is it?) means melissa isn't "hot" anymore.  she
still looks the same, but she doesn't stand the same availablity
anymore.  why should he be physically attracted to someone who most
likely, considering her sexual preference, won't be attracted to him?
i don't mean to offend anyone!
linda.
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:49:25 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
subject:      texas & poultry

jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu> ponders:
>are the girls ever gonna be in texas?????????

  the last time they traveled to texas, amy met the chickenman along the way.
  emily says she was sleeping in the van when this happened.
  it seems like they'll need to return at some point to introduce
  emily to the chickenman. :-)

  maybe they can take him on tour with them next time.

  ...... "darkness into darkness...."
  [i just love it when amy wails this part and does that little shuffle step.]

- randy
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 20:31:33 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael bunch <mrbcom@earthlink.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael bunch <mrbcom@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: ig on disney-"tape tree"???

here is the setlist for the disney channel special
that aired tonight:

fugitive
dead man's hill
galileo
hammer and a nail
this train revised (with jacob's ladder intro)
least complicated
ghost
kid fears
closer to fine

the show ran approx. 45mins, i'm sure one of our uk friends can
confirm if this was the exact set that aired on the bbc.

since i have a digital satellite system and get both the east and
west coast feeds of disney, i am willing to make a couple of vhs hi-fi
master copies for someone to run a video "tape tree".

the digital video and digital audio are pristine and would survive one
generation of loss nicely.  so if someone is willing and has the time
as well as the equipment to do so, let me know.

michael
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 00:14:54 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
subject:      re: i have extra pics...
in-reply-to:  <01hwe7r15npe922txb@tntech.edu> from "mary thomas" at oct 13,
              95 02:18:32 pm

sorry!
        you were too late with your request for a pic!  if i get more
i'll let you know!

                                christina
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 00:12:07 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
subject:      re: i have extra pics...
in-reply-to:  <199510131746.naa21480@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> from "brendan
              white" at oct 13, 95 01:46:14 pm

yes,
        i am sorry to say that you were about the 50th person to e-mail
me and i have ran out!

                                        sorry!

                                                christina
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 00:07:21 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:      disney concert highlights...

well, this is at least what i think the highlights were:

--amy's pilgrim shoes and em's doc martins
--amy's give me liberty t-shirt...what video did she wear this in?
--emily's flannel...i think i saw this flannel on her a billion times in
the last year...guess it's one of her favorite's...everyone's got some
piece of clothing they want to seem to live in...
--jerry not having any shoes on?
--em's guitar solo on dead man's hill and the camera close-up of her
finger picking
--the look on em's face during galileo when she says, "...you know me, i
take everything so seriously..."
--em's shirt from hammer and a nail on..did she spill on her shirt or is
that sweat?
--amy screaming "all aboard!" during the jacob's ladder intro to this train
--amy saying, "did you get 'em all?" right after the line "pull out the
teeth" in this train
--amy looks a thousand times better after she takes off that black and
white button down...almost got a shot of the tattoo
--em smiling at the audience on least complicated with that smile that
could make you melt
--em dancing to change guitars after least complicated
--ghost was amazing in general
--watching amy mouth the part, "i go follow to the river..." during ghost
--emily's emotion when she sings the line, "now i see your face before
me, it would launch a thousand ships...bring your heart back to my island
as the sand beneath me slips" during ghost...i was really moved by this.
--amy's face on "we know the price now" during kid fears
--amy yelling "prostrate" on closer to fine
--where's jane scarpantoni?
--who is that playing the penny whistle?
--is that really bert playing tambourine next to sara lee?

these are just my initial reactions...you may or may not agree with
them...needless to say, yes i thought it was too short, but it always is...
great concert...it was super to have all the camera angles and see their
faces up close...

later...
carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
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date:         sun, 15 oct 1995 22:18:12 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: em's tangled ...
x-to:         guinione@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <951015221803_124714108@emout06.mail.aol.com>

on sun, 15 oct 1995 guinione@aol.com wrote:

> as many times as i've seen them perform this live, it's always emily singing
> - amazing voice, quite powerful ... i've also checked several boots with tuib
> on it and i'm pretty sure mm hasn't been at every show they've performed this
> song at ... my vote is that it's em singing on 1200c ...
>
> chris
>
i've got to agree with chris - it just *sounds* like her voice - though i
admit, a bit stronger.
i also wanted to put my two cents in about 1200 curfews.  thumbs up.
i've been very much into the indigo girls since '89.  listening to them
is like listening to the soundtrack of my life since mid - college.  i
usually don't go for live albums - they sound "wrong" - especially for
songs that i've memorized every detail of - but this sounds new and
fresh.  my only complaint is the sax on "love's recovery".  it's one of
my very favorite ig songs, but the damn kenny g. sound just ruins it for
me.  i appreciate the fact that they're experimenting with new
instruments, but some belong (violin, cello, pennywhisle), and others
just detract and overpower (sax).  does anybody else feel that way?

kim
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 01:34:43 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: smoking (little or nigc)
x-to:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>

at 01:56 pm 10/15/95 -0700, linda joanne napikoski wrote:
>on sat, 14 oct 1995, jo norvelle walker wrote:
>
...
>> that a probably was not smoking at the time.  certainly she is at least
>> entitled to the benefit of the doubt.  i shall now fault her only for
>> including ridiculously small photographs on an album insert.
>>
>no! you were going to "fault" her? for doing something you personally don't
>agree with?
>everyone seems to be jumping on this like it's ok to be shocked and
>appalled if she is <gasp> smoking.  bfd, i say. comments on this list
>are rarely self-righteous, but this 'is amy smoking?' thread has brought
>out some major holier-than-thou attitudes. some of us smoke. shake it
>off, my god!


linda,

i cheerfully admit that i am a self-righteous prude who drinks in moderation
(usually).  i would like to be able to say with clear conscience that i
don't care what amy does with her personal life -- but, in truth, i do care
that amy may smoke (and that linda may smoke, btw).  i regret entering this
discussion, and in the future i will try to keep my cute little nose out of
other people's business.


jo
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 01:53:28 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ken guttman <kjguttman@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ken guttman <kjguttman@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
subject:      tangled up in blue lyrics

someone a while back was trying to figure out lyrics to tuib. i don't have
the address anymore, so i thought i'd send it to the list; hopefully a bunch of
people can't figure all the words out, so that my sending such a long post to
the list is justified ;). there are multiple versions out there, but here's the
lyrics to the one on 12c as best as i can hear them.

        ken


tangled up in blue      bob dylan

early one morning the sun was shinin'
i was layin' in bed
wond'rin' if she'd changed at all
if her hair was still red
her folks they said our lives together
sure was gonna be rough
they never did like mama's homemade dress
papa's bankbook wasn't big enough
me i'm standin' on the side of the road
rain fallin' on my shoes
heading out to the east coast
lord knows i've paid some dues, gettin' through
tangled up in blue

she was married when we first met
soon to be divorced
i helped her out of a jam i guess
but i used a little too much force
and we drove that car as far as we could
abandoned it out west
and split up on a sad dark night
both agreeing it was best
and she turned around to look at me
as i was walkin' away
and i heard her say over my shoulder
"we'll meet again some day, on the avenue,
tangled up in blue."

i was livin' in the great north woods
working as a cook for a spell
but i never did like it all that much
and one day the ax just fell
so i drifted down to new orleans
where i happened to be employed
yeah i was workin' for a-while on a fishin' boat
right outside of ??delacrois??
and all the while i was alone
the past was close behind
i've seen a lot of women
but she never escaped my mind and i just grew
tangled up in blue

she was workin' at a topless bar
and i stopped in for a beer
i just kept lookin' at the side of her face
in a spotlight so clear
and later on the crowd thinned out
and i was just about to do the same
she was standing there in back of my chair
she said "don't i know your name?"
well i muttered something underneath my breath
she studied the lines on my face
i must admit i felt a little uneasy
when she bent down to tie the laces of my shoes
tangled up in blue

she lit a burner on the stove
and offered me a pipe
"i thought you'd never say hello", she said
"you look like the silent type"
and then she opened up a book of poems
and handed it to me
written by an italian poet
from the thirteenth century
every one of those words rang true
and glowed like burning coal
pouring off of every page
like it was written in my soul from me to you
tangled up in blue

i lived with you on montague street
in a basement down the stairs
there was music in the cafes at night
and revolution in the air
that's when he started into dealing with slaves
and something inside of her died
and she had to sell everything she owned
and she froze up inside
finally when the bottom fell out
i became withdrawn
the only thing i knew how to do
was to keep on keeping on like a bird that flew
tangled up in blue

now i'm headed back again
i got to get to her somehow
all the people that i used to know
they're an illusion to me now
some are mathematicians
some are carpenter's wives
i don't know how they all got started
i don't know what they're doin' with their lives
but me, i'm still on the road
and headed for another joint
we always did feel the same
we just saw it from a different point of view
tangled up in blue

--
ken guttman                     | "it used to be that love meant
miami university of ohio        |  pretending but oh little baby not
kjguttman@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu |  since i found you"  -kristen hall
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 04:18:23 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      re: 1200 at 12:00
x-to:         linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>

>on fri, 13 oct 1995, william norris wrote:
>
>> >
>> > i'm a straight guy fan...lived the ig"s before i "knew"...had trouble (?)
>> > adjusting when etheridge came out...she is (was) so hot...a role
>> > reversal....now,  with ani dif., my three favorite artist are gay
women. (is
>> > that right? or is it always lesbian?)
>>
>> i'm really trying to hold back some anger here, because i get the
>> impression you're trying.  but, why is melissa no longer "hot?"  because
>> she's a lesbian?  that changes her looks?
>>
>> i will not be complacent,
>> bill
>>
>hi.  my name is linda and i'm new to the list.  i just wanted to say that
>i don't think that bill (is it?) means melissa isn't "hot" anymore.  she
>still looks the same, but she doesn't stand the same availablity
>anymore.  why should he be physically attracted to someone who most
>likely, considering her sexual preference, won't be attracted to him?
>i don't mean to offend anyone!
>linda.
>
linda,

unfortunately, i think you did.


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen...
oh how i wished i were a trinity, so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live
but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal
to let this love survive would be the greatest gift we could give..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 04:28:33 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      how you get off the list!!!!!
x-to:         megan krewatch <mkrewatc@vt.edu>

>could you please tell me how to get off the list.  it is clogging my
>computer sysytem.
>
>thanks,
>megan krewatch
>mkrewatc@vt.edu
>
>

okay, megan and all the others,

first, let me tell you one thing before i tell you how to get off this list.
you should read all the mail that listserv sends you concerning it's rules.
then you wouldn't have to waist the group's time with these repetitive and
needless questions.

now, i've pasted what was sent to you when you first subscribed to this
group (you know, that mail that said to save to a file because you might
need it later) in the body of this letter.  read it, digest it, and please
don't ask again...

the way to get off this group:::

this came from listserv when you first subscribed:
>please save this message for future  reference, especially if you are not
>familiar with listserv.  this might look like a waste  of disk space now,
>but in  6 months  you will be  glad you saved  this information  when you
>realize that  you cannot remember what  are the lists you  are subscribed
>to, or  what is the command  to leave the  list to avoid filling  up your
>mailbox while you are on vacations. in fact, you should create a new mail
>folder for subscription confirmation messages  like this one, and for the
>"welcome  messages"  from the  list  owners  that you  will  occasionally
>receive after subscribing to a new list.
>
>to send  a message to  all the people  currently subscribed to  the list,
>just send mail to indigo-girls@netspace.org. this is called "sending mail
>to the  list", because  you send  mail to a  single address  and listserv
>makes  copies  for all  the  people  who  have subscribed.  this  address
>(indigo-girls@netspace.org) is  also called the "list  address". you must
>never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed
>to all the people  who have subscribed. all commands must  be sent to the
>"listserv  address",  listserv@netspace.org.  it  is  very  important  to
>understand  the difference  between the  two, but  fortunately it  is not
>complicated.

read this part especially closely:

the  listserv address  is like  a fax  number, and  the list
>address is like a normal phone line.  if you make your fax call someone's
>regular phone number by mistake, it  will be an unpleasant experience for
>him  but you  will probably  be  excused the  first  time. if  you do  it
>regularly,  however, he  will probably  get upset  and send  you a  nasty
>complaint. it  is the same with  mailing lists, with the  difference that
>you are calling  hundreds or thousands of  people at the same  time, so a
>lot more people get annoyed if you use the wrong number.


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen...
oh how i wished i were a trinity, so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live
but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal
to let this love survive would be the greatest gift we could give..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:05:10 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: ig in mid-west
x-to:         linda marie martin <lmartin@bgnet.bgsu.edu>

on 15th oct 1995, linda marie martin wrote:

>hi!
>send me info too!
>are they going to be anywhere in the mid-west anytime soon?
>thanks,
>linda
>

i don't think they're going to be playing anywhere, i'm afraid.   i heard
they're taking a year out (hence the live release).

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:11:17 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: disney concert highlights...
x-to:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>

>well, this is at least what i think the highlights were:

>--who is that playing the penny whistle?
>
>later...
>carol
>jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
>

i think you'll find her name's kirsti.   i know, because she works as a
telephone operator on bob harris's show on glr, and i rang up the show to
request an ig song, and i got talking to her and got the whole story!   ask
neil hunt.   he was in the front row with her.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:17:54 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: disney concert highlights...
x-to:         jone3176@saintmarys.edu

the only difference i can think of between the us and the uk shows was
dead man's hill replaced chickenman (which was originally before kid fears)


>--where's jane scarpantoni?

she wasn't on the tour

>--who is that playing the penny whistle?

kirsti

>--is that really bert playing tambourine next to sara lee?

no, it's me :) see late night neily's not so definative guide to the ig's
live in london posted a couple of days ago...

@}--,--'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:19:35 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: the disney show
x-to:         divrsit@infi.net

>
>who was that ultra-cool dude playing the tambourine next to sara?  ;-}
>
>way to go, neily!  :)
>
>@}--,-'---
>
>peace,
>robin

guys gotta do what a guys gotta do :):)
i _still_ should've asked for a guitar...:p:p

@}--,--'----

  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 08:20:30 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: tangled uib debate on 12c
x-to:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>

my former very important, special, close friend and confidant greg wrote:

>ok i must have this settled.  certain friends of mine on this list (dumb
>cheeseheads :)insist that our own emily saliers is singing the "livin
>down on montegue (sp?) street" part of the song tangled up in blue on 1200
>curfews.  now i am insistant that it is michelle malone.

now greg, is the word "insistant" really a part of your vocabulary? :) and
to the few of you who have said that you feel it's michelle singing, stop
stroking this man's ego!!

it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's
emily!! it's emily!!

'nuf said...deb :)

ps to greg: badgers over the wildcats by at least 10
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:38:01 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      london show thoughts
in-reply-to:  <199510160331.uaa25951@atlas.earthlink.net> from "michael bunch"
              at oct 15, 95 08:31:33 pm

wow...

really wow!

fugitive was amazing, kidfears blew my mind, this train was unbelieveable
and there are no words to describe ghost....

watershed can not be as good...nothing can even compare
god, i wish i could see them live soon,
any "rumored" shows at eddies? 8^)

mike r.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 08:49:24 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret vitalis <margaret.c.vitalis@healthpartners.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret vitalis <margaret.c.vitalis@healthpartners.com>
subject:      ig gold cd

i saw one of the ig (self-titled) gold cd's at a record store the other day.
i remember some discussion about this several months ago, and i seem to
remember that some people were looking for this particular cd.  this is the
only one i have ever seen in a store.  is this a rare find/collectors item??
i think the cost was something like $22.00

if anyone is interested, i would be willing to pick it up and mail it out.

margaret
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 10:03:16 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              wingstar@mulberry.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat stark <wingstar@mulberry.com>
subject:      trivia

okay, i don't have 12cc, watershed or the disney show yet so i figured i
would amuse myself with some trivia.  does anyone know what statue emily is
standing in front of on the back cover of their first disc?

pat (bored and looking for a life :)

                "adding up the total of a love that's true
                   multiply life by the power of two"
                               es

                  "nobody gets a life time rehersal
                  as specks of dust we're universal"
                               es
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:00:37 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      reply to sudd. no messages

          i got the message!  i've been getting way too many messages!
          i hope this goes out to any and all of you who have yet to
          receive messages.  the new album is wonderful and is highly
          recommended! that's all.

                          kimberly
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:14:42 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      so amy ke and loquat trees...

          why is everyone making such a big deal out of amy smoking?
          everyone is taking it so personally!  if she wants to smoke,
          let her.  it really didn't surprise me at all.  i could tell
          by her voice that she was a smoker. (not that there's
          anything wrong with her voice, i love it!)  anyway, i
          thought it was time for me to put my 2 cents in on the
          subject.
                             kimberly
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:09:35 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      homophobic fans?

          i just read a message from a staight fan, bill. i am also
          staight.  i can't help you with why you don't find melissa
          ethridge attractive anymore.  the question is, did it change
          the way you feel about their music?  i know quite a few
          people who have denied "the girls" (as i like to call amy
          and emily) simply because of their sexual preference.  this
          is really sad to me!  would their music sound any different
          if they were straight?  would it change the meaning of the
          words? no.  except their lifestyle (which really isn't our
          concern) and enjoy their music.


                              kimberly
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 10:16:46 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              beverley rennie <brennie@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         beverley rennie <brennie@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
subject:      watershed

watershed was shown at ohio state university friday night at 9:00pm.  we were
told at the showing it was a satellite link-up...does anyone know if other
schools were recieving it at the same time?  and where would if it have
been broadcast from?
the organisers of the show were also raffling off large posters of 1200
curfews - has anyone seen these?  are they available from russell
carter mgt?
anyway...the video was fantastic, as most of you already know.  wonderful
clips - including amy trying out an early song in front of her family; and
caroline aiken seen rehearsing with them on finlandia (first time i have ever
heard that song).

btw i love their version of down by the river.

- bev.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:33:14 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      re: i have extra pics...
x-to:         christina r webb <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
in-reply-to:  message of mon, 16 oct 1995 00:14:54 -0400 from
              <webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>

thank you, i appreciate your taking the time to reply.
and yes, if you get anymore please send me one.

anna
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:57:02 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
subject:      disney channel special...
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk
in-reply-to:  <199510141049.gaa15075@netspace.org>

hey there...

    i was going to record the special on the disney channel the other day
while i was at work, and my roommate decided to watch something else so
he took out my tape... die you pig dog scum!!! a pox on you and all of
your decendents!!!!  so could anyone tell me when it will be on again
this month or in november...because i remember someone telling me that it
would be on more than once...any assistance would be appreciated...

standing on the edge of forever...

jim driskell
                          "the heart and the mind on a parallel course...
                                never the two shall meet...." e.s.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 10:53:06 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      money for nothing and your chicks for free :) (nigc)

>tattooed on her back.  most importantly, i saw a picture of cooper.
>let me tell you, her album pictures don't do her justice.  i feel

of course amy's gonna have a cute girlfriend and drive a corvette...she's a
rock star after all :)  for those of us who might have given her credit for
a little more imagination than that...well, she's all there on the
important things...

l
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:08:00 pdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "resnick, regina" <rresnick@rghnet.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "resnick, regina" <rresnick@rghnet.edu>
subject:      avigail

hi avigail-
i am about to unsubscribe to this list-way too many messages!
if you'd like to write, you'll have to  send me your e-mail address.
rresnick@rghnet.edu
see y'all later!
gina
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:06:43 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              brave sir chris <u410001@univscvm.bitnet>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         brave sir chris <u410001@univscvm.bitnet>
subject:      posting in general

    hi ya'll.  i have recently subscribed, and would like to keep on the list,
because i am a huge ig fan.  unfortunately, there's a ton of stuff on here!
(course that's also what's good about it)  just a thought, tho.  a lot of what
i'm reading is from one person to another specific person. (for instance,the
500 messages about the picks...) if these were sent to the individual instead
of the list, i wouldn't be missing anything meant for me, and my email box
would actually have some room!  i know it's easier just to reply to messages on
the list, but those of us with wimpy computers would sure appreciate it if you
would limit your posting to stuff you want everyone to see, and email just the
people you're addressing yur messages to.

   anyone have the same ideas, or am i just being silly?

   chris.

   "the answer: that life exists, and imagination, that the powerful play goes
on, and you may contribute a verse."  walt whitman
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:16:13 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      reoffer: ig gifs

hi folks,

    a friend of mine took some pics of the ig set at the 1995 newport
festival.  they aren't professional, but i scanned four of them and
they are availiable for anonymous ftp at:

                space.mit.edu   (cd /space/ftp/pub/cmb/ig/)

these are the same pictures i offered 3 months ago, but there are
so many new folks on the list i thought i'd put them up again.
especially after christina ran out of ig pictures so rapidly.

                                -- chris (who still says 'moo'
                                           to himself and chuckles)


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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:25:24 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      re: homophobic fans?
in-reply-to:  <9509168138.aa813862513@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu> from "kapage" at
              oct 16, 95 09:09:35 am

>
>           i just read a message from a staight fan, bill. i am also
>           staight.  i can't help you with why you don't find melissa
>           ethridge attractive anymore.  the question is, did it change


<snip>
>                                               kimberly


hey!  this has gone on for three days now, and i'm tired of being flamed
for this.  i responded (with some anger, and myabe a little too much
sarcasm for some people to grasp) to someone who posted an ingnorant
remark regarding sexuality, attractiveness, etc...

i'm not the bad guy in this...stop beating me up.

and, for the record, i think melissa is one of the most
beautiful/passionate human beings i've ever laid eyes on.  the sheer
energy of her live performances makes her beauitful.

i will not be complacent,
bill
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:25:31 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              u410001@univscvm.bitnet
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris mccormick <u410001@univscvm.bitnet>
subject:      brave sir chris

    hi again.  i hate to bother you guys about this, but i've looked thru all
the stuff i was sent when i got on the list, and i sent a "query" about how to
get all the commands for it, but noe of them answer my question:

     how do i switch this list to digest form???

    that would solve my problems, bekuz then i could just stuff it in a little
folder instead of deleting 75 messages a day.  *grin*  if anyone knows how to
do this (i know it's prbably easy, but hey, i'm a newbie...) i would appreciate
a response emailed to me (not put on the list)  my address is up at the top of
this message.

     thanx!  chris

     "do i dare disturb the universe?" ts eliot
     "yes."  me.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 11:34:23 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              u410001@univscvm.bitnet
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris mccormick <u410001@univscvm.bitnet>
subject:      pictures

    howdy, all!  i was lucky enuff to see the girls twice last year in england
(i was on exchange there) in a small club in leeds, and then at the glastonbury
festival.  i took pictures at both concerts, and somehow, they ended up double
exposed.  so what i have now are a few big pictures of e and a close-up, a few
of them at a distance, and a bunch with small girls in the back, and big,
ghostly girls outlined in red to the side.  it's a really interesting effect;
it looks pretty artsy, plus it one picture of two shows at once!  kewl, huh?
anyway, i've never traded/sold/bought stuff over the net, but i'm going to get
a coupla these pix blown up, and if they still look good, then i might try to
scan 'em in and see if anyone's interested in getting copies.  they really are
unique...

brave sir chris
"the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom"  wm. blake
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:39:44 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: magical mystery tape tour
x-to:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510152139.raa13025@peace.netspace.org>

uhh..jen? no offense, but

on sun, 15 oct 1995, jude shabry wrote:

> i got this idea from someone on another forum, but i really like it..
> :)  here goes..
>
> there seem to be some people who want a copy of the disney channel
> special but don't have cable.  i have cable and a vcr.  i will tape
> the special.  anyone who wants a copy will send me their mail
> address.  i send the tape to the first person on the list.  they copy
> it (borrow a vcr from a friend or something) and send it along to
> the next person.  after everyone has copied it, and everyone has
> a second-gen, i get my tape back.. :)
>
> anyway, anyone interested in being on the tape tour, send me mail with
> the pertinent info...  whee!!
>
>     -jude
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> jude shabry | hey_jude@brown.edu | they called me mad, and i called them mad,
> <http://www.netspace.org/~jude/> |     and damn them- they outvoted me!
>
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:51:22 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: magical mystery tape tour
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951016093906.3159a-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>

whoops.
::blush::
control-c = cancel.
control-x = send.

the c key and the x key are sooooooooo close.

hehehe. sorry. i started to type a response to something but then i
realized that i had misread it....

sorry!
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 10:47:17 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              andrew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         andrew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
subject:      ig/disney tape tree
x-to:         michael bunch <mrbcom@earthlink.net>
in-reply-to:  <199510160331.uaa25951@atlas.earthlink.net>

hi everyone. if/when i can get a copy of the disney show, i will organize
a tape tree. more info to follow... please, any volunteers with 2 vcrs
contact me via email.

-drew

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drew vogel: admissions officer at university of cincinnati undergraduate
admissions (call 800-827-8728), actor, director, ibm fanatic, documentation
author, single guy, & much, much more! apvlbsb. a+e=ig. try my home page at
"http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"          "the only way out is through."
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 12:08:20 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      introduction

hi everyone!  i am brand spanking new to the listserv, and thought i ought
to introduce myself.  my name's mandy, i am a 19 year old sophomore at
indiana university majoring in music education.  i have a whole bunch
of indigo girls cd's, etc....saw them perform in indy lat april, and think
they are just the coolest of cool.  that's about it.....nice being here!
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 09:49:53 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
subject:      re: nigc: commonbond cancellations
x-to:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sgi.3.91.951013225639.792a-100000@emily.cgrg.ohio-state.edu>

hello...

to jamie suthard (????) i hope i remebered the name right:

....the indigo girls performed in dallas tx on sept 7th 1994 and in austin on sunday
march 20th right after south by southwest...i was at both shows...they
were great...hopefully when they go on tour again they will come back
through here...you never know. take care all

standing on the edge of forever....

        jim driskell
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:16:20 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              aneeza agha <aneeza@cse.fau.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         aneeza agha <aneeza@cse.fau.edu>
subject:      re: you know you're a fan when...
in-reply-to:  <199510141928.maa09573@ix.ix.netcom.com>; from "sarah nuding" at
              oct 14, 95 12:28 (noon)

> ...and now i'm
> the proud parent of my first player ... and only about $200 in debt!

  damn! and i thought i was bad...had to pay for the rest of my classes
  on friday. so, as soon as i got my paycheck, i went to the bank, cashed
  it, took out what little else was left in my savings account, and paid
  for all the knowledge i may be acquiring this semester :-/   anyway, i
  was soooo depressed about having zilch in the bank. i went straight to
  best buy and charged 12c's, watershed, and heather nova (for my little
  bro'). needless to say, i didn't study one bit this weekend, but i had
  a blast!!

  aneeza, who is hard at work in anticipation of the consequences of plastic.

world peace day is nov. 17. email me for details if interested.
--
aneeza  agha.
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"i've got one hand in my pocket    |                       |
  and the other one is giving the   | don't bug me! hug me! |
  peace sign" -- alanis morissette  |                       |
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aneeza@cse.fau.edu
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:24:14 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "pelletier, amy e" <kvd6@maristb.marist.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "pelletier, amy e" <kvd6@maristb.marist.edu>

hi, my name is amy pelletier and i love the indigo girls.
please send me everything you have!
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 14:37:21 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:      tuib

okay, sorry greg, but after listening to tuib lastnight a million
times...i have come to the decision that it is emily.  i feel like an
idiot for doubting that she had the strength to be singing it.  but, it
just can't be michelle.  besides, don't y'all think that they would've
thanked mm after the song was over or at least acknowledged that she was
there.  they said something about jane and scarlet...if mm had been
there, i find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have said something
about her...

okay, i'm signing off...i'm on fall break in arizona where it is 99
degrees...going outside to get a tan...and am really glad that i figured
out how to telnet into my school system to check my e-mail so that when i
got back i wouldn't have 900 messages waiting for me.

carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

"you have to laugh at yourself because you'd cry your eyes out if you
didn't..."  em, 1200 curfews.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:57:20 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      several things

*wading through 213 messages from this weekend. whew!*

ok, a couple of various and sundry comments, just because. (i know you're
expecting this yen!)

first: the fish out of water thing. it kinda hit me when someone commented
that the guy in the lyrics is a "fish out of water." i realized, to add to
that, that the girls sing this songs specifically because they identify with
it. they love georgia, they were on tour away from home. they wanted to be on
that midnight train too. hence they identify with the "fish out of water
theme". not that they are out of their element, and not that they don't love
their work.

second: the smoking debate. ok, sorry because i'm the one who brought this all
up by mentioning the picture, and the funny thing is i don't actually think
she's smoking in the pic either cuz you can't see anything in her hand. didn't
mean to start a whole debate, i was just wondering what the pic was about! :)
however, since the debate has started, i'm going to add my $0.02. i agree
wholeheartedly that it's none of my damn business if anyone else in the world
smokes. fine. i don't expect anyone to really care what i think of smoking.
but these energetic defenses of the right to smoke are totally missing the
point. the reason _any_ of us are even bringing it up is because we genuinely
care about the health and well-being of this woman. she means a great deal to
us, and so we want her to be safe. i'm not a religious person, but i
occasionally find myself "wishing" for both their health and safety. if amy
was in the habit of playing russian roullette with a loaded revolver. would we
honestly say we shouldn't care because it's none of our business? of course
not! of course we care because we care about her safety. we wouldn't expect
her to care that we care, but that's another subject entirely. 'nuff said.

third: 1200 editing questions. here's another little hint to add fuel to the
debate. i think it's on page 4 of the liner notes, there's a place that says
"_thin line_ and intro from...." or something to that effect. point is, it
mentions both the song and the intro from a given venue. "so what?" you ask.
well, if they're mentioning the song and the intro separately, that means they
considered them two separate entities, and on other songs they (as we already
know) took the intro's from someplace else.

fourth: the disney special. wow, really cool. thanks for the highlights,
neily, but you missed someone, and i gotta point it out. (she may want to say
this for herself, but then again she may be too modest so...) another one of
our very own, erica, was also on stage that night. she jumped up halfway
through ctf, and she's the one who is  dancing _between_ a and e at the very
end. i can say this for sure because i had the pleasure of watching the
special with her last night at bert's party (hey guys.). exciting stuff. oh,
and hey neily and kirsty and everyone else up there. nice to finally "meet"
you!

last: watershed. what's up guys, no one's even really talking about it. it's
wonderfull!!!!!!!! and no one's having caniptions over it like i am. it's like
amy and emily read my mind and produced exactly what i would have wanted them
to. non-stop great moments from all through their career. and it's funny!
let's hear some raves and favorite moments. like, how about the wig scene?

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

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w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:26:49 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              colleen lelis <mclelis@aros.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         colleen lelis <mclelis@aros.net>
subject:      hey everyone!

hey!  i don't know what all of you are like, but on other mailing lists i've
been on, there's been a kind of continuous chatter going on...is this one
like that?  it doesn't matter either way to me, but i just want to find out.

do you all restrain yourselvz to only indigo girls topics, or what?

just wondering.  sorry if i took up your time.

:) liz

        ~curiouser and curiouser!!!
                ~alice's adventures in wonderland
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 16:14:23 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      apology for "how to get off the list"

indigo girls list:

i would like to apologize for my rude comments to megen in her rather
innocent question about how to get off the list.  in my defense, i was very
tired and very stressed out over three tests i had the next day.  although
my actions are inexcusable, i hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.

sincerely,

scott.


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 17:09:56 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: disney concert highlights...
x-to:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of mon, 16 oct 1995 00:07:21 -0500

i would love to say that was me playing the tambourine next to sara during
closer to fine, but it wasn't.  i wish i was that thin and that lucky.  it
was our very own neil hunt from england.  also on stage was erica spizz who
is also on the list, and was at my house last night with lorinda and yen to
point herself out standing between amy and emily.  congratulations to you two
and to that wonderful pennywhistle (or was it a tinwhistle) player kirsti who
showed a lot of restraint standing on stage for so long without bodyslamming
anyone.


let it grow (sorry lauree)

bert
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:58:28 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              colleen lelis <mclelis@aros.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         colleen lelis <mclelis@aros.net>
subject:      re: disney concert highlights...
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>

>i would love to say that was me playing the tambourine next to sara during
>closer to fine, but it wasn't...player kirsti who
>showed a lot of restraint standing on stage for so long without bodyslamming
>anyone.

oh yeah!!!  i caught that concert--got it recorded, verry good, but it
seemed a little short to me...

:) liz

        ~curiouser and curiouser!!!!!
                ~alice's adventures in wonderland
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 14:30:50 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: what is amy doing?
x-to:         marciatodd@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <951014232320_74134070@emout05.mail.aol.com>

on sat, 14 oct 1995, michele stockert wrote:

> i don't care one way or another if amy smokes. however, i would like to make
> the suggestion that maybe she is just pressing her hand to her lips in this
> photo. i can't really see anything between her fingers.

        i agree.  i looked back at it and i didn't see anything there.
perhaps she's blowing a kiss towards us.   i don't care about smoking,
howevrer i do care if she's blowing a kiss towards me.  now there's
somehting to get worked up about, if not horribly excited over.
teri
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 13:49:23 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bonster@alaska.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         muncho lake <bonster@alaska.net>
subject:      re: what is amy doing?
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

she could just be yawning! everyone gets tired. . .
-bon


>> i don't care one way or another if amy smokes. however, i would like to make
>> the suggestion that maybe she is just pressing her hand to her lips in this
>> photo. i can't really see anything between her fingers.
>
>        i agree.  i looked back at it and i didn't see anything there.
>perhaps she's blowing a kiss towards us.   i don't care about smoking,
>howevrer i do care if she's blowing a kiss towards me.  now there's
>somehting to get worked up about, if not horribly excited over.
>teri

yeah!
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 17:51:18 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      several things--me too

hi people,

>ok, a couple of various and sundry comments, just because. (i know you're
>expecting this yen!)

whadya mean? you don't nearly post enough, lorinda. (yeah, like i do.)
well, i would like to add my comments to the 'fish out of water' discussion. i
really believe amy's talking about herself. it's just not her type of song to
sing. i think the other explanations offered are a bit too deep for just 4
words, you know? not that there are obsessed ig fans on this list who analyze
everything amy ray and emily saliers do:)

also, emily's definitely the one who sings the blues part on tuib. like
others have said, (or maybe they haven't) 'rockin' in the free world' shows
off her vastly improved vocals abilities and that's the same voice as in tuib.

>last: watershed. what's up guys, no one's even really talking about it.
(lorinda wrote that.)

watershed, watershed, watershed. galileo gets my vote for video of the year.
though i may be 3 years too late.

thanks bert. great to meet you, erica. have a good evening, everyone.

yen m tang
ymt2@lehigh.edu

"what i won't give to have the things that mean
the most not to mean the things i miss."
    --e.s. "language or the kiss"
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:02:36 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      finally...
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510161957.paa76694@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:

> last: watershed. what's up guys, no one's even really talking about it. it's
> wonderfull!!!!!!!! and no one's having caniptions over it like i am. it's like
> amy and emily read my mind and produced exactly what i would have wanted them
> to. non-stop great moments from all through their career. and it's funny!
> let's hear some raves and favorite moments. like, how about the wig scene?

thank you lorindigo!
        there really hasn't been any talk about watershed and it's a damn
shame because it is one of the very best things the girls have put out.
i was disappointed that it was so short (i wanted a 3hour documentary or
something...)but honestly when i was watching it was so very well
constructed.  so here's some of my highlights...
        *the video for "galileo" was so great.  everyone's been telling
         me about it and i've been waiting years (quite literally) to see
         it.  my favorite quote was from amy: "i was a priest - i thought
         about god and sex all the time"  hilarious

        *all those neat scenes after the tmf video.  emily wearing the
         wig, amy getting dreads, emily choking on the straw.  but hey
         everyone -  emily "aims to please the girlies..."  it's so
         funny.

        *the young version of "chickenman".  eeewwww - take that capo off
         amy.  nice to see the transformation.

        *but how about how amy maims herself with that clicking "action"
         thingie before "galileo" is shown and before we all learn that
         emily's really just a strawberry.

        here's my one complaint.  i wish they took put more of their home
movies from the studio.  they had a couple of things from the nis
sessions, that little thing from the so sessions with emily and michael
lorant (hey that's "levant" to the graphic artist!  huh?) doing
nanananananana!.  i just wish i could have seen them doing more recording
because i really dig that.  hey you guitarists!  did y'all see how easy
emily picks "southland in the springtime"?  the woman skips strings like
it was nothing.  even in "ghost" from the disney channel - i thought that
was fingerpicked.  emily can make me feel so small...

"i aim to please the girlies..."  -e.s.
teri
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 22:10:15 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie meloni <dmon@hidwater.com>
subject:      minigc: "thin line" on 1200 c...

this is more of a note re: gerard mchugh than it is about indigo girls.  i
was pleasantly surprised to see that ig had recorded "thin line" for this cd
-- in fact it was the reason i bought it.  they've been doing this song with
(and without) gerard for years, and i personally think that besides being a
good choice of a song to record, it was a very nice gesture toward gerard --
one of the most deserving songwriters i know.

now, on to the point -- this cd has caused an upsurge of folks to visit
gerard's www site (http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/mchugh/) and that is _great_
for gerard.  the most popular request i am receiving is for tablature or
chords for this song -- makes sense -- it's a great song!  so, while we've
got a call in, trying to get something written down, and trying to get an
updated bio written, we just wanted to let all of you know, who asked, that
we're working on it.

meanwhile, if anyone's got it worked out and they want to share (adam? :) ),
e-mail us and i'll get it approved & up there, probably quicker. :)

off-topic, we're also trying to rustle up some wendy bucklew stuff for all
of you who are asking.

gerard's site...http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/mchugh

and his version is with michelle malone, and you should buy his disc, imho.

julie meloni

dmon@hidwater.com
hidden water ... http://www.hidwater.com/
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:31:38 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      love's recovery...

just wanted to add one more thing.  amy mentioned in the liner notes for
12k how, no matter what emily meant when writing "love's recovery", she
saw her own battles with coming out inthe song and what it means to her.
i first read this and thought it was kind of far-reaching.  then i
listened to the opening lines more closely...

        "during the time of which i speak
         it was hard to turn the other cheek
         to the blows of insecurity
         feeding the cancer of my intellect
         the blood of love still neglected
         lay dying in the strength of its impurity...."
                                (*i might have quoted wrong, but you
                                                get the picture...)

i can see where amy's coming from.  does anyone else see this?  do you
think this was in emily's mind when writing it?  i tend to think that
it wasn't what emily was thinking at the time, that it was about a
specific relationship, personal as emily's songs and lyrics tend to be.

love and all that baggage,
teri
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:11:41 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              paula laine <plaine@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         paula laine <plaine@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu>
subject:      re: several things
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510161957.paa76694@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:

> last: watershed. what's up guys, no one's even really talking about it. it's
> wonderfull!!!!!!!! and no one's having caniptions over it like i am. it's like
> amy and emily read my mind and produced exactly what i would have wanted them
> to. non-stop great moments from all through their career. and it's funny!
> let's hear some raves and favorite moments. like, how about the wig scene?
>
> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo

i *love* watershed!  my favorite thing on it is galileo and the rotfl quotes.
i also like to watch amy dancing around on the ctf video. ok so i just watch
amy through the whole thing.


as far as the disney special goes, does anyone else think there are way
too many *extreme* close ups? i kind of like the head-n-guitar shots
but i don't like those in your face kinda shots.

p.s. i know i am an ig fan when i am glad to hit a red light so i can hear
more ig music before i get to wherever i am going.


paulal
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 18:39:51 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      thoughts after an amazing ig day

hi all.  i just wanted to voice some things i have been thinking about since
yesterday.  this is going to be a pretty long post, so if you are one of
those who are sick to death of my posts, hit delete now.

i had a wonderful day yesterday with lorinda, yen, and erica.  we started off
by watching watershed.  i hadn't purchased it yet, so yen brought her copy.
thank you yen.  the reason i hadn't purchased it, was because i had my doubts
about it focusing too much on the music videos, which except for galileo, i
was never too crazy about.  fortunately, this was not the case.  within the
first minute of the tape, i was convinced completely that i was going to buy
this asap (and i would have too if i had some credit left).  i am not going
to go into detail about what i loved about watershed.  i will take about five
or six more viewings before i will be able to focus on the extra special
moments.  however, i will focus on one thing that made this tape especially
wonderful for me.  during the little bit of footage shot at the grateful dead
show that they were opening, amy was wearing a t-shirt that said "there are
no strangers here; only friends you haven't met yet" on the front, and "let
it grow" on the back.  this was a t-shirt i had given her at the bottom line
show back in april of 1993 during the 10$ tour.  i was wearing the shirt at
the time, and was so moved by her singing of reunion (which is a song i can
definitely relate to) that i wanted to give her something, but i had already
thrown flowers earlier in the set, so i took off my stinky, sweaty shirt
(gosh, i hope she washed it before wearing it) that was given to me by a
close friend who makes his own grateful dead t-shirts, usually with very cool
sayings like this one.  the shirt had a lot of meaning for me and was one of
my favorites at the time, which made it more appropriate to give to her.  i
threw it onstage.  amy tried to show the crowd what it said, but stupid me
left it inside out when throwing it, and it was too much trouble to turn it
outside in while carrying a guitar, so she just put it down on a piece of
equipment and took it backstage with her at the end of the show.  i had no
idea what had become of the shirt, until seeing watershed and seeing amy
sitting backstage rehearsing with this long, lost t-shirt on.  i imagine that
she though it was approprite to wear, since it was a grateful dead show.  but
who knows?  maybe she's wearing it right now.

next, we hung out outside my house and lorinda played guitar and we all sang
ig tunes.  no matter how bad my voice is, this will always be my favorite
pastime.

after going out for dinner, we got back to the house with some time to spare,
so we watched chris tapio's collection of ig tv appearances.  this is another
tape that i love even though the picture and sound are pretty lousy at times.
the funniest part of this tape is during their appearance on michelob late
night series or something like that where at the end of the show, they
perform red river valley with a bunch of other musicians who were on the
show.  emily is giving her all to the song, as is amy, but amy has this look
on her face that is saying, "oh my god!  i can't believe i am doing this!
this is the end of my career!  it was hysterical.

finally, we watched the disney special, which at that point in the day was
anticlimactic and disappointing.  the sound and video quality were excellent.
there were amazing close-ups.  they sounded great and seemed like they were
really into the performance, but nothing in the show jumped out at me as
being extraordinary.  the show was over-edited.  it jumped from song to song
with little or no talking from amy or emily.  this was especially
disappointing considering what amy and emily did say at this concert prior to
galileo which is captured on 1200 curfews.  also missing was language or the
kiss, which was performed wonderfully, and midnight train to georgia.  imho,
the bbc blew it.  this was compacted into 45 minutes when it could have
easily been one hour and included the aforementioned missing pieces as well
as others which i am not aware of.  a one-hour special fits into most u.s.
programming formats.  are most british programs slotted into 45 minute bloks
of time.  i have noticed that my favorite british comedy, absolutely
fabulous, usually takes up 45 minutes when it is shown on comedy central, but
that includes commercials, which means its actual time is probably only 30-35
minutes which is longer than u.s. sitcoms.  but anyway, was anyone else
disappointed with this program, or am i just a jaded mandarin.

finally, i would like to bring up my next idea for a project.  hopefully, it
will generate more interest than my last few ideas, although i haven't
completely given up on the jcs tribute or indigo swirls crunch.  inspired by
watershed, i would like to produce a video documentary about ig fans and
their experiences and feelings about the music and the environment and the
community as a whole.  what i need is for anyone interested to put together
20-30 minutes of video footage of yourselves and your friends performing ig
songs (at least one, but no more than three - it doesn't matter how bad the
performances are) and talking about ig, their music, its effect on you,
specific experiences and moments that were special for you, favorite songs,
favorite concerts, friends you've made through going to shows or other
ig-related events, or pretty much anything ig-related.  if you want to do a
list of your "you know you're an ig fan when..." that is cool too.  from
everything i receive, i will take the best parts and clip them together and
create a 2-4 hour running dialogue about ig and everything from the fans
point of view.  if there is anyone in the ne within a five hour radius of nyc
with experience in video editing and equipment to do the editing, i could
definitely use your help.  i would rather travel and work with a complete
stranger on this project who knows the music and can relate to the
experiences and the environment than work with a friend who knows absolutely
nothing about either.  this is just in the idea stage right now, so don't
starting renting video equipment just yet, but i would appreciate it if you
could e-mail me back if you are interested, so i can get a good idea if i am
going to get enough footage to do this right.  also, if you are that special
person who lives within a five-hour radius of nyc who has experience in video
editing and access to some equipment, please e-mail me and let me know.

i would like to call this:

the other side of watershed
ten years of indigo girls fans and their experiences

on the cover, the word watershed would be up against a mirror so it appears
normally and backwards.

if anyone has any better ideas, please post them.  i am always open to
suggestions.  thanks for reading this far into the post.  have a nice day.


let it grow

bert
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 18:48:44 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      digipaks vs. jewel boxes

looking back at some of the things said about these two formats reminded me
of something i had been wanting to do for a long time, but keep forgetting.
does anybody here on the list have swamp ophelia in a jewel box, but would
prefer a digipak.  i have a digipak, but would prefer a jewel box, but not
enough to go out and buy another copy.  e-mail me if you are interested in
trading.  we can trade the packages, but still keep the original cd and avoid
any arguments about scratches, sound quality, etc.  thanks.


let it grow

bert
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 18:52:17 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: love's recovery...
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9510161546.a2356-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>; from
              "teresa c. esguerra" at oct 16, 95 3:31 pm

>
> just wanted to add one more thing.  amy mentioned in the liner notes for
> 12k how, no matter what emily meant when writing "love's recovery", she
> saw her own battles with coming out inthe song and what it means to her.
> i first read this and thought it was kind of far-reaching.  then i
> listened to the opening lines more closely...
>
>         "during the time of which i speak
>          it was hard to turn the other cheek
>          to the blows of insecurity
>          feeding the cancer of my intellect
>          the blood of love still neglected
>          lay dying in the strength of its impurity...."
>                                 (*i might have quoted wrong, but you
>                                                 get the picture...)
>
> i can see where amy's coming from.  does anyone else see this?  do you
> think this was in emily's mind when writing it?  i tend to think that
> it wasn't what emily was thinking at the time, that it was about a
> specific relationship, personal as emily's songs and lyrics tend to be.


i can see where amy is coming from.  gay relationships are the type of
relationships she's familliar with at the moment.  i could even see
emily meaning exactly this when she wrote it. at the same time, i
never had a problem taking those lines into my own life and i don't
happen to be gay (i have done so in fact, often, much too often
*sigh*).  i've neglected the opportunity for many a relationship
because i talked myself out of them--something wasn't right here...its
not perfect.  my insecurity killed me over and over again in hs nd
college.  i can't imagine what it would have been like if i was coming
out too.

anyway, this is one of em's best lyrics in one of her best songs
(imho), for precisely the reason that we talk about it here.  the
words are a bit like an impressionist painting.  the background is
there, you make your own scene from the background which em sets.
there is no right answer...and its wonderful!

                                -- chris

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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 17:42:01 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "julie l. kastning" <jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
subject:      1200 c's

        1200 c's rocks!!!  ryan, you better go buy it so you know what
everyone here can't stop talking about!!! it's one of their best!
catch ya later!  (10:00)
"adding up the total of a love that's true..."
-jul
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 00:09:32 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day
x-to:         indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu

i'd just like to say (at this late hour - hey guys, i just met chesney hawkes!!
not that prolly means a lot to anyone, but i thought it was kinda amusing for
those who _have_ heard of him...)

bert blames the bbc for bad editing of the disney special...

the bbc did not film or edit this show. there.

it was filmed independently (on the uk credits it says by carlton 061 television
or something...)
so i'd just like to say that you're blaming the wrong people.

second, bbc (which live in london was originally shown on...) has _no_
commercials, and the show was 50 minutes, which i would say is the third most
popular time, after 30 minutes and 60 minutes.

the 'bbc' edit and the 'disney' edit are different. they swap one song. in fact
in the case of 'midnight train' which bert mentioned should have been on there,
in the uk credits (and i assume the us was the same) it credits jimmy jam and
gail anne, and as they only appear on the wrong song, then i assume that there
is a longer edit of the concert with more songs on, that disney and bbc edited
down to suit their timeslots...(45 minutes +commercials = 1 hour, right??)

i guess that somehow it's planned for full home video release. maybe if people
keep mailing russel carter this will, one day, happen. seeing as watershed has
just been released however, i wouldn't hold your breath...

@}-,--'---


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 19:05:49 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      ack: several things--me too
x-to:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>

acknowledgement of message.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 19:25:13 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              guinione@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         guinione@aol.com
subject:      the heights ...

no not the defunct fox-tv show ... but those of amy & emily ...

does anyone know approx. how tall they are ???

maybe some one you lucky folks who've met them can enlighten me ...

just curious -

chris
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 18:48:20 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: tangled uib debate on 12c

>now greg, is the word "insistant" really a part of your vocabulary? :) and
>to the few of you who have said that you feel it's michelle singing, stop
>stroking this man's ego!!

i don't have an ego :)

>it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's emily!! it's
>emily!! it's emily!!

hmmm...i am not yet at the point where i can say ok i was wrong.  but since
10 of you have told me that e is singin on tuib and the one person who
thought it was michelle has since rebuked their vote (hi carol), i must say
i need to go and listen to 12 c some more.  i am now doubting my previous
convictions and will try to come to terms with my apparent error.  deb,
you'll get a private apology when i am definitely wrong, but until then you
and dwayne are still cheeseheads and i am still a fib :-)

>ps to greg: badgers over the wildcats by at least 10

ps to deb--get a grip!  your badgers are playin at dyche stadium--ya know
the one they named after ig  :).  wildcats by a field goal!

later y'all

greg

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!*
# greg m. flamer               northwestern university   @
* 819 forest ave. #2w          mfm520@lulu.acns.nwu.edu  $
& evanston, il  60202          gflame@nwu.edu            *
^                                                        &
&  "when you're learning to face the path at your pace,  $
$     every choice is worth your while"---emily saliers  @
#                                                        *
&  "when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve    ^
@      all the stones that are cast"---amy ray           $
*                                                        &
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*%$
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 19:48:20 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: the heights ...
x-to:         guinione@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of mon, 16 oct 1995 19:25:13 -0400

my guess is about 5'7" or so each.  i once stood behind them while sneaking
into an aftershow party a few years ago, and was surprised at how big they
were.  i don't mean to use big in a negative way.  they were almost my height
and both had broad shoulders, almost as broad as mine, which aren't as big as
a professional football player, but are big enough.  this is why when i see
emily wear jackets with shoulder pads, i wonder to myself, "why?"  have a
nice day; i hope this helped.


let it grow

bert
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 18:56:52 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: what is amy doing?

just to add fuel to the fire here, i have a friend who met emily after a
concert in louisville, ky last year.  said she was in baggy sweats and was
smoking what looked to be a very enjoyed cigarette.  i doubt if this qualifies
smoking what looked to be a very enjoyed cigarette.  i doubt if this qualifies
her as a "smoker", but after a concert like that, i think i'd have to have
one too.  in short, who cares if they smaok occcasionally....it very
obviously isn't affecting their performances.


mandy
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 20:26:05 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "buck, kristin j" <kbuck@nmu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "buck, kristin j" <kbuck@nmu.edu>
subject:      re[2]: what is amy doing?
x-to:         afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu
in-reply-to:  in reply to your message of mon, 16 oct 1995 20:14:13 est

thank you!!!!  now can we puhleeeeze let this rest???
>just to add fuel to the fire here, i have a friend who met emily after a
>concert in louisville, ky last year.  said she was in baggy sweats and was
>smoking what looked to be a very enjoyed cigarette.  i doubt if this qualifies
>smoking what looked to be a very enjoyed cigarette.  i doubt if this qualifies
>her as a "smoker", but after a concert like that, i think i'd have to have
>one too.  in short, who cares if they smaok occcasionally....it very
>obviously isn't affecting their performances.
>
>
>mandy

quit
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 19:22:37 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "o.k" <jshields@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "o.k" <jshields@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: finally...

hey people...does anyone else get teary eyed to power of two..love it!
want more info..request.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 20:42:47 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      what do you think?

hey all you indigo girls fans out there!
i have just subscribed to this mailing list and i'm psyched to get in
touch with so many people who obviously have such fine taste.
any responses about the new album?
also, i live in nyc, if anyone cares.

amanda

hey, parker, if you're out there, hi.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 20:53:52 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bill albano <wga1@cornell.edu>
subject:      amy

if i hear one more thing about smoking i am going to go crazy!!!

i'm sure that we all have something better to talk about than arguing about
what other people should or should not be doing.

so please...for the sanity of all of us...no mork smoking messages.

thanks
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 21:04:48 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: tangled uib debate on 12c
x-to:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01510100aca8ac05fcde@[129.105.9.171]>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, greg flamer wrote:

> hmmm...i am not yet at the point where i can say ok i was wrong.  but since

listen to the last part--

finally when the bottom fell out
i became withdrawn
the only thing i knew how to do
was to keep on keeping on like a bird that flew
tangled up in blue

it sounds like her and isn't as awesome as the previous few lines.  but
some of the notes, tones, pitches, whatever (i'm music inept), are
clearly sung by the person who sang the earlier lines.  the same person
had to have done the whole verse, and emily clearly sang from "finally.."
on.  (michelle's voice is more clear, less hoarsy (sp?).)

>
> >ps to greg: badgers over the wildcats by at least 10
>
> ps to deb--get a grip!  your badgers are playin at dyche stadium--ya know
> the one they named after ig  :).  wildcats by a field goal!

ps to all you losers not in jawja--braves rock!!!!!!!!

:)
margaret
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:12:40 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
subject:      re: love's recovery...
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9510161546.a2356-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, teresa c. esguerra wrote:

> just wanted to add one more thing.  amy mentioned in the liner notes for
> 12k how, no matter what emily meant when writing "love's recovery", she
> saw her own battles with coming out inthe song and what it means to her.
> i first read this and thought it was kind of far-reaching.  then i
> listened to the opening lines more closely...

man, this makes me feel old... wasn't it eliza who brought this up, about
a year and a half ago?  (eliza, are you still out there?) or was it
tricia... it was one of the first overwhelming crush of names that jumped
at me when i first joined the list anyhow... :)

one of the great things about the igs is the freedom of interpretation
that the lyrics allow - you can apply them in just about any way, to
just about any situation, in just about anybody's life.

the lyrics to 'love's recovery' certainly do lend themselves to the
"struggles in coming out" interpretation - certainly when i think of
that song, and i look back at my own coming out, there are definite
parallels there...

and geez - she's smoking - she's not smoking - who cares already? *duck*
it's the music that counts, isn't it? :)

oh, and re: the disney special - does anyone out there in ntsc-land
want to send a copy to me, so i can get it re-dubbed to pal for us
australians?  copies of any other concert videos would be nice too -
anyone want to arrange trades for anything?  (bert, did you say something
about a knitting factory show, or am i remembering wrong?)

anyway, cheers, and much happy coffee to all...
sherlyn

ps - oi!  kristina!  you owe me email!  and sage - you too!  i'm
*waiiiting.... * *tapping foot* :)...

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
piquet the cat - piquet@geko.com.au; aka sherlyn koo - sherlyn@geko.com.au
"well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you when you think everything's
        okay and everything's going right...
and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 15:47:55 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              moj <moj@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         moj <moj@crl.com>
subject:      thin line chords

(julie meloni said it - take it for what it's worth):
=>
=> now, on to the point -- this cd has caused an upsurge of folks to visit
=> gerard's www site (http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/mchugh/) and that is _great_
=> for gerard.  the most popular request i am receiving is for tablature or
=> chords for this song -- makes sense -- it's a great song!  so, while we've
=> got a call in, trying to get something written down, and trying to get an
=> updated bio written, we just wanted to let all of you know, who asked, that
=> we're working on it.
=>

i have the chords and tabs for this and several other of gerard mchugh's
songs for anyone interested.

stacie
--
                ,-----------------------------------.
         )))    | gimme a quarter or i'll touch you |
        (o o)   _)----------------------------------'
----ooo--(_)--ooo-------------------------------------------------------------
                  email:    moj@crl.com
                    ftp:    ftp.crl.com /users/mo/moj/
           house o' moj:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/
       adoption options:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/adoption/adoption.html
        fruitopian life:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/fruitopia/fruit.html
              wondervan:    http://www.america.net/~wndrgirl/
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 22:31:49 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              smcgill818@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephen mcgill <smcgill818@aol.com>
subject:      please accept this apology...

first off, let me apologize fo the post that i left last week concerning the
need for more"meaningful conversation."  when i went back and reread what i
had written, i was embarrassed.
i had come home fumig ecause i was listening to 1200 curfews with some
friends who i had always thought were die-hard fans, but i discovered that
their only real attatchment to amy and emily was their sexuality.  "but what
about their lyrics," i asked.  "oh...well...i've never really listened to the
lyrics that closely" was their response.  while there is nothing wrong with
admiring and respecting the girls for their "coming out" (i certainly do!),
there is so much more to amy and emily than whom they share their bed with.
the passion and inteligence that is found in every indigo song is, to my
knowledge, unparalleled in the music industry.  and that is the reason behind
my post.  just a little bit of venting...venting...venting!  i hope y'all
understand.
thanks, stephen
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 22:38:42 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              cdsjff@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carlisle stockton <cdsjff@aol.com>
subject:      bds commercial (nigc)

i just wanted to mention to any bds fans that my partner and i saw them in a
commercial for atlanta -- elton john is singing and they show scenes from
atlanta and cultural activities and one of them was bds in concert.
that's all.

-carlisle
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 20:02:22 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      re: several things
in-reply-to:  <199510161957.paa76694@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:

> wonderfull!!!!!!!! and no one's having caniptions over it like i am. it's like

oh, but lorinda, you're so wrong...i had major conniptions (hmm, fun word
to spell..it's anyone's guess) that involved yelling at the tower dude
who wouldn't walk to the back to look for it, finally driving to a tower
that had it and kissing the blessed videotape when i finally held it in my
hand. i was so overwhelmed to finally be holding it...i had to sit down
right there in the tower video section and chill..my friend really
questioned my sanity at that point..but what does she know.

and then watching it...wow. i even  called my mother, whom i am trying to
convert into an indigo girls fan, to tell her at some neat litle scenes
what i had just watched and to insist that she go buy it.

> amy and emily read my mind and produced exactly what i would have wanted them
i couldn't have said it better myself--except: i want it longer! longer!
longer!!!!!!!!!!!!

> to. non-stop great moments from all through their career. and it's funny!
> let's hear some raves and favorite moments. like, how about the wig scene?

that *was* a good one--i haven't exactly picked a favorite. i just love
seeing them hanging out all good-natured and easy-going and delighted
with life backstage.

as for poignant moments, i like amy's comparison of world falls to going
to a zoo and then realizing all the animals are in cages. (go vancouver!)

atershed*watershed*watershed*watershed*watershed*watershed*watershed*watershed

linda napikoski   :)

p.s. is anyone in the la area interested in a watershed
party/get-together thing? i know a couple of you are...if there are
others i don't know about, email me soon! it will be fun! wheeeee!
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 23:37:13 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              misticwolf@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         misticwolf@aol.com
subject:      re: i have extra pics...

thank you :)
=========================================================================
date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 22:44:15 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: please accept this apology...

>>i had come home fumig ecause i was listening to 1200 curfews with some
>friends who i had always thought were die-hard fans, but i discovered that
>their only real attatchment to amy and emily was their sexuality.  "but what
>about their lyrics," i asked.  "oh...well...i've never really listened to the
>lyrics that closely" was their response.

my goodness--i've never posted this much but email at home and a brand new
mac will do that to you.  anyway i wanted to comment on this one.  until i
joined this list i did not listen to their lyrics at all.  i have since
discovered their lyrics and it's just one more reason to love em.  but my
initial attraction to ig was their amazing harmonizing abilities and catchy
tunes.  i am not a big lyrics person.  however, that doesn't necessarily
mean i am obsessed with their sexuality.  just want to point out that not
everyone listens to ig for their amazing lyrics.  their musical ability is
pretty rockin as well.  it keeps me hooked :)

>while there is nothing wrong with
>admiring and respecting the girls for their "coming out" (i certainly do!),
>there is so much more to amy and emily than whom they share their bed with.

what a straight response (pun intended)--so pc.  big yawn on this topic.
take care y'all

greg

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* 819 forest ave. #2w          mfm520@lulu.acns.nwu.edu  $
& evanston, il  60202          gflame@nwu.edu            *
^                                                        &
&  "when you're learning to face the path at your pace,  $
$     every choice is worth your while"---emily saliers  @
#                                                        *
&  "when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve    ^
@      all the stones that are cast"---amy ray           $
*                                                        &
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*%$
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 23:52:15 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
subject:      finlandia question
x-to:         beverley rennie <brennie@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.07.9510161046.a563-a100000@acme>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, beverley rennie wrote:

>  wonderful
> clips - including amy trying out an early song in front of her family; and
> caroline aiken seen rehearsing with them on finlandia (first time i have ever
> heard that song).

the first time that i had ever heard (or was touched by) this song was
with different words, but the same tune.  it was at the funeral of my
sister's first boyfriend, and listening (trying to sing)  realised that
this was a beautifull hymn about finding peace in the midst of pain.  i
believe it is called "be still my soul", and it immediately became my
favorite hymn.  i was quite surprised when i heard this wonderfull
a-capella was called finlandia.

can anyone tell my the origins of this music????????

which came first, finlandia or the egg (i mean the hymn)  :)

     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       betsy                     "if the world is night
                                  shine my life   \|/
       macmilla@fit.edu           like a light"  -> <-
                                - emily saliers   /|\
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 23:59:09 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
subject:      screensavers

hey y'all!

i'm so glad my roommate jessie subscribed to this page, cuz i've loved the
indigo girls for almost four years now.

jessie also has this fab indigo girls screen saver on her 'puter, with great
video clips of amy and emily in "touch me fall" - in color, too!!!

but what totally provoked me was that one of the clips is a close up shot of
amy's crotch!!! i think they intended it to be of her guitar, but didn't
quite get it...  does anyone else have this screen saver, and have you
noticed this clip?

                              i am loving you kids  - jynne
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 23:08:18 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:      cover me grey

i would like to ask if there are any more capricorns out there who are
still interested in getting a copy of cover me grey that i haven't
already responded to.  by the way, if you just sent me an envelope or
something, i'm not at school to receive it, but in arizona on my fall
break, so taping won't resume until friday night.  if you are still
interested and you are a capricorn, let me know soon please.  thanks.

carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
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date:         mon, 16 oct 1995 22:11:19 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lisa.oberlander@asu.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lisa oberlander <lisa.oberlander@asu.edu>
subject:      re: the heights ...
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.813887300.indigboy@er6.rutgers.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, bertin lefkovic wrote:

> my guess is about 5'7" or so each.  i once stood behind them while sneaking
> into an aftershow party a few years ago, and was surprised at how big they
> were.  i don't mean to use big in a negative way.  they were almost my height
> and both had broad shoulders, almost as broad as mine, which aren't as big as
> a professional football player, but are big enough.  this is why when i see
> emily wear jackets with shoulder pads, i wonder to myself, "why?"  have a
> nice day; i hope this helped.


i know someone who was on an airplane with them once, she said they were
very nice.  she also said that they were "big"--i asked what she meant
and she said tall, normally proportioned, just big.

lisa
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 01:43:00 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              liane fu <lianefu@soho.ios.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         liane fu <lianefu@soho.ios.com>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         wingstar@mulberry.com
in-reply-to:  <199510151809.saa06856@uniquest.mulberry.com>

my own vices are far from harmless. however, amy's smoking is for me both
aluring and unsettling at the same time.  in the imagery of my mind it's
comparable to james dean in a convertable pushing round the turns as he
speeds past me.

just my morbid midnight musings
liane

on sun, 15 oct 1995, pat stark wrote:

> i am having a hard time believing all the responses about amy"s smoking (if
> indeed that is what she is doing)  can everyone out there who has negatively
> responded actually say that everything they do is utterly healthy?  drinking
> is right up there as a health risk, along with a list far too big to
> mention.  everyone hase their vices, we're all only human.
>
> just my own thoughts for today
>
> pat
> wingstar@mulberry.com
>
>                 "adding up the total of a love that's true
>                    multiply life by the power of two"
>                                es
>
>                   "nobody gets a life time rehersal
>                   as specks of dust we're universal"
>                                es
>
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 02:39:09 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: smoking  (less and less igc)
x-to:         liane fu <lianefu@soho.ios.com>

>my own vices are far from harmless. however, amy's smoking is for me both
>aluring and unsettling at the same time.  in the imagery of my mind it's
>comparable to james dean in a convertable pushing round the turns as he
>speeds past me.
>
>just my morbid midnight musings
>liane


yes, but this month's byte has an interesting article giving reasonably
convincing evidence that james dean was only going 57 mph at the time of his
death.

jo
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 09:26:56 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>
organization: grd
subject:      http://ukw3s1.ggr.co.uk/

i,m an indigo girls newsgroup "virgin" and this is my first time! i am
expecting the earth to move for me.

i discovered the indigo girls only about 12 months ago and am amazed that
they are not far bigger in the united kingdom than they are. they are
rarely played on the radio (i've heard them on air just twice). their
record comapnay attempted a "relaunch" for the band with a "best of"
album recently (why is it called 4.2?) and rereleased closer to fine as
the single to promote the album. thought this is a great single i'm sure
something like ghost would be more commercial for the uk (any comments?).

i think it is a shame that two of the greatest comtemporary
songwriters/singers aren't recognised as much as they should be due to
apparently poor marketing.

we get little ig coverage in the uk. what is "watershed" which a few of
you are talking about. can you buy the recent ig london concert on video
in the us? (i will be in the us soon) (i was there and can be seen in the
crowd, my 15 minutes (well seconds) of fame!) will the disney channel
show be available on video? i have no subscription to this.

adios amigos,

everybody seems to sign off with a line or verse so i will comply:

"and the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life
less seriously", a meaningfull message.


gag
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:05:50 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

>the 'bbc' edit and the 'disney' edit are different. they swap one song. in fact
>in the case of 'midnight train' which bert mentioned should have been on there,
>in the uk credits (and i assume the us was the same) it credits jimmy jam and
>gail anne, and as they only appear on the wrong song, then i assume that there
>is a longer edit of the concert with more songs on, that disney and bbc edited
>down to suit their timeslots...(45 minutes +commercials = 1 hour, right??)
>  neily :)

jimmy jam got a thank-you on the cover of back on the bus, y'all.   is this
the same jimmy jam that works with terry lewis (as in janet jackson etc.)?

i believe they're based in minneapolis.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:21:23 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: http://ukw3s1.ggr.co.uk/
x-to:         graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>

graham,

the compilation is called 4.5, not 4.2.   we had a big discussion about this
- the 4 are amy, emily, sara lee and jerry marotta;  the .5 is (allegedly)
gail ann dorsey.   (i had a suspicion it was lisa germano, but ...).   that
was the band they took on their uk tour last year, and gail played bass and
sung on a few numbers.   she's got an album coming out pretty soon, apparently.

i sympathise about your radio play comment - i've heard them played several
times on the glr bob harris show (one of his telephonists, "clued-in"
kirsti, played a whistle during closer to fine at one of their london gigs)
but apart from that, just once.   bob harris often plays strings of
connected songs, and he once played two (i will survive by the 'dead, and
all along the watchtower by bob dylan) which were connected by ig covers!
(they covered it on a dead tribute.)   did you hear them on the radio and on
tv around glastonbury?   (if you didn't, don't worry.   they weren't their
best performances.)

welcome to the list, anyhow.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk


>i,m an indigo girls newsgroup "virgin" and this is my first time! i am
>expecting the earth to move for me.
>
>i discovered the indigo girls only about 12 months ago and am amazed that
>they are not far bigger in the united kingdom than they are. they are
>rarely played on the radio (i've heard them on air just twice). their
>record comapnay attempted a "relaunch" for the band with a "best of"
>album recently (why is it called 4.2?) and rereleased closer to fine as
>the single to promote the album. thought this is a great single i'm sure
>something like ghost would be more commercial for the uk (any comments?).
>
>i think it is a shame that two of the greatest comtemporary
>songwriters/singers aren't recognised as much as they should be due to
>apparently poor marketing.
>
>we get little ig coverage in the uk. what is "watershed" which a few of
>you are talking about. can you buy the recent ig london concert on video
>in the us? (i will be in the us soon) (i was there and can be seen in the
>crowd, my 15 minutes (well seconds) of fame!) will the disney channel
>show be available on video? i have no subscription to this.
>
>adios amigos,
>
>everybody seems to sign off with a line or verse so i will comply:
>
>"and the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life
>less seriously", a meaningfull message.
>
>
>gag
>
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:29:05 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

>
>jimmy jam got a thank-you on the cover of back on the bus, y'all.   is this
>the same jimmy jam that works with terry lewis (as in janet jackson etc.)?
>
>i believe they're based in minneapolis.
>

no.

jimmy 'jam' descant. guitar tech.

jimmy jam. other bloke.

@}--,--'---

  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:22:31 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day

hey :)

bert asked me to forward this, and so i'm obliging :):)
'cos i'm nice like that...

anyway bert...i can see how you thought it was the bbc...it's easy to do...

@}--,--'---


----- begin included message -----

from indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu tue oct 17 10:46 bst 1995
date: mon, 16 oct 95 19:24:21 edt
from: bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
to: mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject: re: thoughts after an amazing ig day

i apologize for blaming the wrong people.  i just assumed it was the bbc, and
you know what happens when you assume...  anyway, the disney channel, like
hbo, showtime, etc. does not have commercial obligations, except to its own
shows, which it chooses to promote in commercial-like bits.  however, most
comedy and music specials that are shown on these channels are usually pretty
close to one hour long.  the most recent one was rosie o'donnell's comedy
special on hbo, which just barely came in under one hour.  disney could have
given up 10-12 more minutes of time instead of promoting snow white and the
seven dwarfs or whatever they were promoting.  i am sure the footage was
available and could have been edited in.  again, i am sorry for knocking the
bbc, when it wasn't their fault.  no offense intended.


let it grow

bert


----- end included message -----


  neily :)            indigogirlsjellyfishdeaconblueedenburningtracychapmanaimee
   41 mountside        mannbeatlesbuddyhollydannywilsonbillyjoelshawncolvinmaria
    guildford           mckeefairgroundattractioneverlybrothersdelamitribandomd
     @}--,--'---         royorbisonjuliemillerjamroxettecarolekingandmanymore...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 06:39:58 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      my signature

hey guys,

whassup with my signature?  so it's long--if you think eight lines is long.
i remember seeing a sonnet as a signature, and i must add that some of those
funny little pictures at the bottom of some your emails are  far longer than
eight lines.

it's a snippet from my favorite indigo girls song.  it is dense, but it is
important.  if you don't like it, do like i do with signatures that get on
my nerves--ignore it.  go on, you have my permission.

sincerely,

scott

and now for a long, highly controversial signature that i won't change:


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 06:43:27 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
subject:      by the way

btw, i'm unsubscribing.  this is the most anal group i've ever been a part of.

chill out,  :)

scott.


"meanwhile the friends we thought were so together
they've all gone and left each other in search of fairer weather
and we sit here in our storm and drink a toast
to the slim chance of love's recovery.
there i am in younger days, star gazing
painting picture perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection,
i missed ten million miles of road i should have seen..."

--emily saliers, "love's recovery" from "indigo girls" (1989)
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 22:05:02 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
subject:      re: by the way
in-reply-to:  <9510171143.aa16842@fly.hiwaay.net>

on tue, 17 oct 1995, scott whitlock wrote:

> btw, i'm unsubscribing.  this is the most anal group i've ever been a part of.

ooh!  he likes us, he likes us!

hehe well mat, you wanted people to speak up before they left...

*grump*
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
piquet the cat - piquet@geko.com.au; aka sherlyn koo - sherlyn@geko.com.au
"well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you when you think everything's
        okay and everything's going right...
and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 08:32:01 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.813883192.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, bertin lefkovic wrote:

> being extraordinary.  the show was over-edited.  it jumped from song to song
> with little or no talking from amy or emily.  this was especially
> disappointing considering what amy and emily did say at this concert prior to
> galileo which is captured on 1200 curfews.  also missing was language or the

that's because the galileo intro was taped in ann arbor. it was edited
into 1200 curfews, not edited out of the tv special.

k
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 14:40:32 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              andrew miano <th_ind01@oswego.oswego.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         andrew miano <th_ind01@oswego.oswego.edu>
subject:      watershed

color me ignorant.  which i am  :-)
what is watershed???was this the video that i saw next to 1200 curfews at hmv?
i didn't buy it at that moment due to lack of cash, but i guess i have to now.

the idea for an ig fan documentary is interesting.  a friend of mine did
a dead-head movie, but due to tie-died he was forced to wait
to release it, but i have seen it and it's very good.  it never
goes into a show.  only talks about the lifestyle et. al.
if any of you saw tie died, the ken kesey interview was from this kids
movie.  check it out if you can.  not being a dh i was surprised
that i liked it so much.

what would we call an ig fan documentary???

later

'drew
1200 curfews is probably the best purchase i have made in a long time!!!
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 10:47:59 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              chris mcmahon <libcm@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         chris mcmahon <libcm@emory.edu>
subject:      mich. night music? (bert?) also spam and cigars
in-reply-to:  <9510170411.aa25032@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>

    it might just be too much hard living, but i'm pretty sure that,
besides "red river valley", ig also sang backup on the sonic youth raveup
of iggy pop's "i wanna be your dog", with edgar meyer and ummm somebody
else, too, at the very end of that very same program. do you have the whole
show on tape? am i right or do i need to reduce my dosage?
      some carolina spam, and a band de soleil commercial:  millan &
kenzie at:

oct. 19 thu. chapel hill nc/ crescent city music hall
oct. 20 fri. charlotte nc/ the dilworth brewery
oct. 21 sat. columbia sc/ clyde's (in five points)
oct. 26 thu. columbia sc/ clyde's (again)

     all these places have great sound or great beer or both, so c'mon
by...  and...

nov. 3 fri. atlanta ga/ the cotton club- with band de soleil!

    this one's gonna rawk, y'all...
    and all you anti-smoking folks sure woulda hated jcs in austin, where
the cast broke out a case of cigars after the show. ahh, hanging around
backstage smokin' cigars and drinkin' bud with ig and a buncha atlanta
musicians on a hot texas night is a fine use of time, if you ask me...
      -chris

              visit
http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/milkenzie/
              please
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 16:58:19 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "t.j. newton" <t.j.newton@newcastle.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "t.j. newton" <t.j.newton@newcastle.ac.uk>
subject:      british ig fans only (sorry)

if anyone is interested i saw 1200c's in virgin megastore today for 29
quid (ouchh!), on import, cheers

tim.

______________________________________

tim newton, department of microbiology
university of newcastle upon tyne
email t.j.newton@ncl.ac.uk
phone 0191 222 6000 ext 5412

______________________________________
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 12:02:10 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              thpft@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         thpft@aol.com
subject:      vld & wendy b

anyone near atlanta should come to the midtown music hall on the 20th. wendy
and cooper can often give each other fun energy when they do shows toghether.
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:33:11 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ryan dobson <ryan@dobson.mdn.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ryan dobson <ryan@dobson.mdn.com>
subject:      tape me baby...

hey,

i don't have disney and from all of the talk of the special i feel left out!!!!

if anyone has a copy of the show and would be kind enough to let me send you
a tape so you can copy it for me, i would be glad to send a reasonable
amount of money for it!!!!!

please let me know a.s.a.p. for i am dying to see it.

thanks to all!

ryan

-----------------------------
ryan dobson

address:  71 owen hall
          west lafayette, in 47906
phone: 317.495.3834
e-mail: dob@expert.cc.purdue.edu  or  ryan@dobson.mdn.com

in search of greener pastures....
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:11:44 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: by the way
x-to:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>

who does scott whitlock consider "anal" anyway?   someone on irc said they'd
signed off the list because there's "too much crap spewing off it".   does
this mean nigc stuff?   there's no pleasing some people!

mat

from piquet's reply to scott whitlock:

>on tue, 17 oct 1995, scott whitlock wrote:
>
>> btw, i'm unsubscribing.  this is the most anal group i've ever been a
part of.
>
>ooh!  he likes us, he likes us!
>
>hehe well mat, you wanted people to speak up before they left...
>
>*grump*
>sherlyn
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>piquet the cat - piquet@geko.com.au; aka sherlyn koo - sherlyn@geko.com.au
>"well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you when you think everything's
>        okay and everything's going right...
>and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
>        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
>                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"
>
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 16:08:06 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk>
subject:      check out this woman! (nigc)

hey there...

the rather amazing and incredible talented terry gonda is performing in
the detroit, va and wv areas in october. terry is a royal oak-based singer
/songwriter, and was a kerrville new folk finallist and a rocky mntns
folk finallist this summer.

she's also played at various atlanta venues, including eddie's attic (even
opning up for emily one night!). all in all she's well worth listening to...
and her dates can be found on the web on muci-cal (http://www.automatrix.com>
. she also has her own pages, currently displayed at
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucaikjr/tg/tg2.html

so if you're in the area, go visit:

thursday oct 19th, 8.00
-----------------------
shenandoah coffeehouse series special event concert
middleburgh community center
middleburg
va
(540-687-6375 or 687-6759)
with john rickard & andrew mcknight
$5.00

saturday oct 21 8.00
---------------------
shanandoah coffeehouse series
war memorial building
w. german st, shephardstown, wv
(540) 687 6759
with bill baker & eileen joyner
$5.00

friday oct 27th
----------------
the coffee exchange in rochester mi
(810) 375 2360

hope that at least some of y'all can make it there... i only wish that
i could!

fare thee well
kirsti
--
+xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
kirsti reeve (kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk)
department of phonetics and linguistics
university college london               "it's no harder to be nice than it is
                                         to be creepy. and it's much more fun."
tel/fax: (h) +44 181 659 0953                                   death.
web page: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucaikjr/home.html
+xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 16:48:55 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kirsti reeve <kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk>
subject:      quit smoking

hey y'all

although i'm not subscribed to the list anymore, enough of my friends are that
i still get kept up to date with the snippets... and i hear that amy's
smoking habits are a "hot" topic of debate at the moment.

basically, as far as i know, amy gave up smoking over 6 months ago... when i
saw her at glr, she was coughing, and complaining about not having had a
cigarette for 6 weeks. she said then that she had given up for good, and
seems to have kept up with that.

whatever her reasons for starting or stopping smoking were, my gut instict
is that amy's personal habits are amy's personal business... we, as people
who like and are moved by her music, should try and resist making an idol
or a hero of amy.. i'm sure that's the last thing she wants. neither amy nor
emily have ever set out to be a "role model". whatever position they may have
been put in by their commercial success does not need to get continued on
this list, surely? i don't mean to sound critical... but i just feel that
the purposes of a list like this is not to discuss smoking or non smoking.

the girls make great music. their lyrics speak about love and tolerance...
let's keep spreading it.

fare y'all well
kirsti
(who _is_ the same kirsti who works for bob harris at glr, yes )
--
+xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
kirsti reeve (kirsti@phonetics.ucl.ac.uk)
department of phonetics and linguistics
university college london               "it's no harder to be nice than it is
                                         to be creepy. and it's much more fun."
tel/fax: (h) +44 181 659 0953                                   death.
web page: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucaikjr/home.html
+xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 10:42:35 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: screensavers
x-to:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510170359.xaa06137@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>

on mon, 16 oct 1995, jessie gilliam wrote:

> but what totally provoked me was that one of the clips is a close up shot of
> amy's crotch!!! i think they intended it to be of her guitar, but didn't

        i feel like being completely dumb right now, but i want to say
that ms. ray has a very nice glutteus maximus.  oh, hell with it...she's
got a great butt...a cute heinie...a very nice ass.  her backside looks
particularly nice when she's smoking.  or shootin up her heroin!  or
beatin' up innocent bystanders on the streets of atlanta during the
christmas holiday...

hoping everyone else is in a nice, easy goin' mood,
teri


"i'm not makin' a joke
you know me
i take everything so seriously..."
                -emily
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 12:57:13 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "julie l. kastning" <jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
subject:      re: tape me baby...
x-to:         ryan dobson <ryan@dobson.mdn.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510171633.laa28379@decker.mdn.com>

ryan,
        i think i might have a few ideas on how you can "get
taped"....why don't you talk to me about it sometime??

in search of fairer weather,
julie
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 14:43:51 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
subject:      smoking

i couldn't resist joining in on this smoking debate:
     first of all i could care less whether amy smokes or not- because it's
about the music.  but, about the music...  if you'll notice from the 1982
back together again single- amy does not have the raspy quality in her voice
that we all know and love.  so, maybe (quite ironically) her smoking has
improved her as a singer and a harmonizer.  so i don't really see why this is
a point of debate.  and anyway....as my roommate jynne says "amy's so hot
anyways... it just doesn't matter."  :) so stop with the judgements!
               thanks for reading this...
                              jessie gilliam
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 11:57:55 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510171844.oaa28708@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>

maybe amy only smokes when she's 'on fire... from the years..."
(kid fears)


hehe.
--di, tired of the smoking topic and wanting to see everyone's
almost-a-week-old experience of 1200! i love it! their power of two
rendition was well chosen...
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 14:05:35 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rascal@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         brooke ann foster <rascal@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu>
subject:      re: tape me baby...
x-to:         ryan@dobson.mdn.com

>hey,
>
>i don't have disney and from all of the talk of the special i feel left out!!!!
>>>>>
>
>
>if anyone has a copy of the show and would be kind enough to let me send you
>a tape so you can copy it for me, i would be glad to send a reasonable
>amount of money for it!!!!!

>please let me know a.s.a.p. for i am dying to see it.

>thanks to all!

oh ohohohohohohoh, me too!  i am also disneyless and dying for that special!

anyone who can find it in their benevolent heart to copy it for me will
have my eternal gratitude!  i'll even bake peanut butter cookies as a bribe!

y'all can e-mail me privatly at rascal@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu

thanks!

seeya!

brooke
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 14:24:22 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
subject:      almost week-old experience of 1200

>--di, tired of the smoking topic and wanting to see everyone's
>almost-a-week-old experience of 1200! i love it! their power of two
>rendition was well chosen...

i'd not posted my week-old experience, thinking everyone would be getting
tired of the raves.  but here goes:

i love it!!  i want to buy a second and third copy so i don't have to carry
it between all my cd players.

i think they did a really good job selecting the songs for both discs.  i'm
trying to decide which ones to mention specifically, and i can't narrow it
down. i really like the sax on love's recovery--it adds an even more
haunting feeling. and the version of ghost is great.  i'll stop at two.

=joye

oh, btw, betsy, when i get home i'll look up the history of finlandia.  i'll
always remember it as my grandfather's favorite hymn, cause we sang it at
his funeral.
#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#
# joye price mcburnett                              jmcburne@origin.ea.com #
# associate producer, origin systems                       joyebean@io.com #
# austin, texas, usa                          http://www.io.com/~joyebean/ #
#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 15:44:11 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ryan dobson <ryan@dobson.mdn.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ryan dobson <ryan@dobson.mdn.com>
subject:      you made me do it!!!

well... i just bought 1200 curfews because no one would shut up about it.

and boy do i owe all of you a huge thank you... thank you!!!!!

it is by far my favorite album (probably because it is a combo of almost
everything and that i love live albums).

so far my favorite part is least complicated.... it always surprises me how
they can play these songs over and over and it's new each time they play them...

in other words i think the album freakin rocks!

keep jammin.....

ry

jul.... adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the
power of two!
-----------------------------
ryan dobson

address:  71 owen hall
          west lafayette, in 47906
phone: 317.495.3834
e-mail: dob@expert.cc.purdue.edu  or  ryan@dobson.mdn.com

in search of greener pastures....
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 16:37:54 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: several things
x-to:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>

>on mon, 16 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:
>> wonderfull!!!!!!!! and no one's having caniptions over it like i am. it's lik
e
>oh, but lorinda, you're so wrong...i had major conniptions (hmm, fun word
>to spell..it's anyone's guess) that involved yelling at the tower dude

i'm so glad i'm wrong. :) (hmm, how about coniptions, kinipshuns.)

>i couldn't have said it better myself--except: i want it longer! longer!
>longer!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah, well, could have been a six hour thing and i'd still want it longer.

>as for poignant moments, i like amy's comparison of world falls to going
>to a zoo and then realizing all the animals are in cages. (go vancouver!)

ok, how about amy's lack of a future as a great mathematician. (200 x 15 =
30,000????) oh well, we love her anyway.
and how about the scene before they go on stage in london: "i hate this place!
this sucks! where are my drugs?!"

i could go on and on and on, but i won't for now.
folkisgruven,
lorindigo,
(oh, and i'd love to do the reverse watersed video, but i don't have a video
camera, so...who does around here? (that's eastern pa area).


iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 17:16:20 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: smoking
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of sat, 14 oct 1995 21:24:21 -0400

i think any kid who is obsessed enough with ig to take a high quality
photographic magnifier to a photo in order to see whether amy, a smoker, is
*plugging* smoking, as a factor towards a decision on whther or not to smoke,
has problems that reach far beyond the ramifications of lighting up.  as the
partner of a smoker, i can tell you that smoking, once established as a habit
by someone, is virtually uncontrollable, and the relentless ranting on this
list about how amy should quit for her fan's benefit is really obnoxious and
ungrateful, imho.  coming from people who keep saying they wish they could
find ways to pay her back for all the great music, it sure seems arbitrary to
get on her case for doing something that is her own business entirely.
considering all the amazing benefits that they've played for, all the causes
they support, it seems to me that amy has every right to smoke 100% natural
biodegradable tobacco cigarettes.  nobody makes a big deal when stars are
shown eating hamburgers...
  by the way, this was not meant as a flame to the person who used the
magnifier, who was simply trying to settle a dispute.
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 22:25:36 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      quote identification ?? (nigc)

does anyone have a clue what this is from ?? i only ask 'cause i think someone
might...

i am cold against your skin, you are perfectly reflected
i am lost inside your pocket, i am lost against your fingers,
i am falling down the stairs, i am skipping on the sidewalk,
i am thrown against the sky, i am raining down in pieces,
i am scattering like light, scattering like light, scattering like light...

or something...

thankee, and if you have no clue, i humbly apoligise for wasting your time...

@}--,--'---

  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 17:22:51 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
subject:      lifeblood site

just wanted to let ya'll know we have made the following additions to the site:

the search feature:
it has been enhanced to go out and check the entire database (articles,
setlists, and lyrics) for whatever search criteria you choose.

the lyrics section:
the existing lyric files have been checked for accuracy and reformatted
(i've got 12 or so of the 110 files to finish)
the 1200 curfews songs and many new cover songs have been added

the articles section:
all of the articles through the end of 1989 have been reformatted so you no
longer have to scroll from left to right to read them

in case you are unfamiliar with the site, it is a collection of ig
information, the url is:
http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood

if you are looking for info on other atlanta artists, eddies attic, rdr, and
lots of other cool stuff, check out:
http://www.hidwater.com
(as always, thanks to the hidden water crew, without their dedication and
hard work the lifeblood site would have never become a reality)

please email me if you have any questions or comments, i'll do another post
when we get some more stuff added.

have fun! :)

carolyn
=========================================================================
date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 15:31:24 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laura kearney <laura_kearney.pathmail@quickmail.ucsf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laura kearney <laura_kearney.pathmail@quickmail.ucsf.edu>
subject:      nigc-quote identification

neil hunt wrote:
>does anyone have a clue what this is from ?? i only ask 'cause i think
someone
>might...

>i am cold against your skin, you are perfectly reflected
>i am lost inside your pocket, i am lost against your fingers,
>i am falling down the stairs, i am skipping on the sidewalk,
>i am thrown against the sky, i am raining down in pieces,
>i am scattering like light, scattering like light, scattering like light...

i believe this is from a suzanne vega song.  i'll have to check tonight for
sure and let you know tomorrow.
laura
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 08:29:46 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kellie grennan <k.grennan@qcm.gu.edu.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kellie grennan <k.grennan@qcm.gu.edu.au>
subject:      re: finlandia question
x-to:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951016234401.11796g-100000@winnie.fit.edu>

finlandia was written by jean sibelius as a thinly disguised patriotic
demonstration.  it was originally called finland awakes. apparently the
effect on its audiences was so electrifying, russian authorities outlawed
performances of it in finland.  forbidden or not, finlandia instantly
became the hummed, sung, shouted anthem in all of finland, and in many
other countries as well.(german's renamed it vaterland, french call it la
patrie, and the chorale section became known as the english hymn be still
my soul) i hope this explain what you wanted to know.
take care kel

ps i agree it is a beatiful hymn - i chose it as a hymn to be sung at my
mum's funeral and a few years later at my service to become a postulant
with achurch of england order of nuns - so it's a pretty special one!

on mon, 16 oct 1995, betsy macmillan wrote:

> on mon, 16 oct 1995, beverley rennie wrote:
>
> >  wonderful
> > clips - including amy trying out an early song in front of her family; and
> > caroline aiken seen rehearsing with them on finlandia (first time i have ever
> > heard that song).
>
> the first time that i had ever heard (or was touched by) this song was
> with different words, but the same tune.  it was at the funeral of my
> sister's first boyfriend, and listening (trying to sing)  realised that
> this was a beautifull hymn about finding peace in the midst of pain.  i
> believe it is called "be still my soul", and it immediately became my
> favorite hymn.  i was quite surprised when i heard this wonderfull
> a-capella was called finlandia.
>
> can anyone tell my the origins of this music????????
>
> which came first, finlandia or the egg (i mean the hymn)  :)
>
>      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>        betsy                     "if the world is night
>                                   shine my life   \|/
>        macmilla@fit.edu           like a light"  -> <-
>                                 - emily saliers   /|\
>      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:33:00 pdt
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              "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
subject:      cover me grey

ok- this is about the cover me grey tape (by the way margaret, thanks so
much for compliling that!) i just sent out my evelope and money yesterday-
is this allright?  i hope so.  and this was discussed a while back, but i
never saw an answer.  how can one obtain a copy of color me grey?  last
year, someone suggested writing to daemon and asking them, which i did.  but
nothing came of it.  i know lots of people seem to have it, where oh where
can i get one???

not assuming anything: )
erica
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:28:00 pdt
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              "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
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from:         "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
subject:      new stuff

it is just so wonderful.  i've seen ig seven times since december, but it's
been this lack of newness that i am now overwhelmed with!
watershed is just amazing.  the local cable interview with them, how
adorable!
i read a post from today, about amy and cooper and a corvette.  i know the
corvette part, but is cooper in the video???
1200 curfews is like a breath of fresh air.  i no longer have frustration at
my cd player-i'd been kind of overplaying them for a while, and now it's
this exciting different thing.   i have a boot with mm singing that part of
tangled up in blue, and it does sound like her.  but they would have
credited her for it, don't you think?  i think it's emily.  i love how amy
changed dead man's hill, and jonas and ezekial.  it just makes me
spontaneously smile, you know?  down by the river is one of the best parts
about the album, no doubt.   but, this may have been discussed, sorry if so,
but what song is the hidden track?  i've heard them play free bird and
cortez the killer in tmf, but what is this?  her voice in it makes me
melt...
actually, i was kind of disappointed in the disney show.  i thought it would
be a bit longer than 45 minutes.  fugitive was really good, and ghost was
one of the best, but i don't know why, i just expected something different.
that was taped in the summer?  when they went over for glastonbury?
sorry this is so long, and none of it is vital info.  i just got the new
stuff and wanted to babble my excitement....
erica
"they keep pounding their fists on reality, hoping it will break." ani.d.
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:36:38 -0400
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              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      quote id
in-reply-to:  <27964.199510172125@ph.surrey.ac.uk> from "mr neil hunt" at oct
              17, 95 10:25:36 pm

to the british guy who looks like he should be in oasis (8^)

small blue thing
-suzanne vega - from her self titled album- released a decade age

mike r.
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:57:43 -0400
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              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      re: almost week-old experience of 1200
x-to:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510171924.oaa15780@origin.ea.com>

joye,

i have to agree with you on all counts but one. am i the only person who
finds the sax on "love's recovery" just a wee bit bothersome. i think it
makes it rather jazzy and incongruous with the rest of the song. maybe
i'm just nuts.

amanda
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 18:03:13 -0500
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              "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
subject:      re: almost week-old experience of 1200
x-to:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>

>i have to agree with you on all counts but one. am i the only person who
>finds the sax on "love's recovery" just a wee bit bothersome. i think it
>makes it rather jazzy and incongruous with the rest of the song. maybe
>i'm just nuts.

it bothered me the first 5 or six times i heard it too, but then it started
sounding right.  i'm not sure why.  but i love the whole thing.

=joye
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 19:07:35 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      video stuff production for watershed
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.813883192.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu> from "bertin
              lefkovic" at oct 16, 95 06:39:51 pm

i'm eight hours away but have done quite a bit of professional video stuff
(was going to be a producer before i got sick of the dog eat dog competition
you need to make it) but it would be a hell of a cool project and either we
could prepare it during my break between semesters or during my spring break
or if bert has a undying urge (or anyone else) to ski at the mountains in
the east, maine is the place!!! (well i may be a bit biased) but i do have
the knowledge and even could add some computer graphics...
it would be a cool project
mike r.
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 19:37:17 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: several things
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 17 oct 1995 16:37:54 edt

lorinda.  i am going to borrow a camera from someone, and we'll do our
segments together with yen and maybe my friends lauree and jackie from boston
will join us as well.  i think group shots are going to work much better than
just a single person in front of a camera talking by themselves.  a hundred
different monologues can get very boring.  groups of people talking
(obsessing actually) will come across much better on video.


let it grow

bert
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 20:01:41 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: excerpts from rop tour program (long)
x-to:         indigo girls mailing list
              <indigo-girls%netspace.org@rutvm1.rutgers.edu>,
              nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
in-reply-to:  your message of wed, 11 oct 1995 09:19:00 edt

after reading the bio from the rop tourbook, i was thinking...

if someone could get a copy of benny, the penny, and i, it would be the
ultimate collector's item.  what are the chances that amy might put it on
their next studio album?  yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt.
sorry for the childish wayne's world reference.  i'll shut up now.


let it grow

bert
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 21:21:31 -0400
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              sara lubitz <sel12@cornell.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sara lubitz <sel12@cornell.edu>
subject:      re: new stuff
x-to:         "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>

eri,
it is wonderful to still hear your insightful comments even though we are
hundreds of miles away...
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 21:45:19 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
subject:      re: several things
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510172037.qaa142204@ns3-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on tue, 17 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:
> >as for poignant moments, i like amy's comparison of world falls to going
> >to a zoo and then realizing all the animals are in cages. (go vancouver!)

well, i guess you got the video.  i got it friday and was too busy
watching it to tell you  :)      i was going to change my signiture to
reflect this quote, but i guess it's old now.  the exact words are "it's
like, you know how you go to the zoo and then you realize that all the
animals are in cages".
>
> ok, how about amy's lack of a future as a great mathematician. (200 x 15 =
> 30,000????) oh well, we love her anyway.

well, i'm an engineer (working on my masters) and i couldn't think that
fast to check up on the math (and i did try).

> and how about the scene before they go on stage in london: "i hate this place!
> this sucks! where are my drugs?!"

yes, thanks for clarifying the "where are my drugs?" line.  i rewound
probably ten times and still couldn't figure it out, but it still made me
laugh.  i think the funniest thing is that they started goofing on the
english guys accent and then totally went off on a tangent simply for fun.

> i could go on and on and on, but i won't for now.
> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo,
> (oh, and i'd love to do the reverse watersed video, but i don't have a video
> camera, so...who does around here? (that's eastern pa area).

well, i have a video camera, for now, for my thesis  ;)  , but i don't
know what you are talking about, and i am in central florida right now :(


     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       betsy                     "if the world is night
                                  shine my life   \|/
       macmilla@fit.edu           like a light"  -> <-
                                - emily saliers   /|\
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 19:08:13 -0700
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              kristi vockler <psu01029@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
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from:         kristi vockler <psu01029@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
subject:      1200 curfews pic in portland

this has probably already been said, but my brain has been on
auto-pilot.  for people @ the girls honor the earth concert in portland,
or; there is a picture of the race track where the concert was held.  it'
on the left page, second to the right @ the top. between a capo/pics and
amy writting.  you can see the stage and people walking on the track.  i
think the cover photo is of the same, at least it' the grateful dead
stage.  funny i can remember what the gd stage looked like.  someone must
have told me the next day at the ig concert.  not that i was out of it or
something, but i was. :)

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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 21:36:51 -0700
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              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
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from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: almost week-old experience of 1200
x-to:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510172303.saa06600@origin.ea.com>

amen to the sax incongruity.  i'd be *soooo* disappointed if i went to a
concert and several songs had that kenny g. sound.

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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 01:17:08 -0400
reply-to:     jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
subject:      magical mystery tape tour (repost)

there seem to be more people who want a copy of this, so i thought i'd
respost this offer..  the tour is about to begin, but you can add
yourself to it anytime... :)


------- forwarded message
i got this idea from someone on another forum, but i really like it..
:)  here goes..

there seem to be some people who want a copy of the disney channel
special but don't have cable.  i have cable and a vcr.  i will tape
the special.  anyone who wants a copy will send me their mail
address.  i send the tape to the first person on the list.  they copy
it (borrow a vcr from a friend or something) and send it along to
the next person.  after everyone has copied it, and everyone has
a second-gen, i get my tape back.. :)

anyway, anyone interested in being on the tape tour, send me mail with
the pertinent info [your snail address]...  whee!!

    -jude

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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 22:52:33 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: by the way
x-to:         scott whitlock <whitlock@fly.hiwaay.net>
in-reply-to:  <9510171143.aa16842@fly.hiwaay.net>

on behalf of the list scott, let me be the first to say thanks, fare thee
well, and we won't miss you.

on tue, 17 oct 1995, scott whitlock wrote:

> btw, i'm unsubscribing.  this is the most anal group i've ever been a part of.
>
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 16:37:23 -0500
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              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
subject:      watershed dilemma

        right, i'm faced with aserious dilemma; all that everyone's been
saying about watershed is making me want to rush out and buy it.  but,
because i'll be off home to britain where you can't play u.s. video
tapes, i won't be able to watch it much.  so here it is, could you
persuade me that it'll be worth getting even if i can't watch it much
(won't take much persuading), even though i'll have to look at the box
for years to come, frustrated that i can't actually watch its contents.
or, does any kind soul know of a way of transforming stuff from a u.s.
tape format to a u.k. one?

        thanks y'all,

                rebecca.

     *****************************************************************

     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde
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date:         tue, 17 oct 1995 17:37:40 -0500
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              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@cso.uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: quote identification ?? (nigc)
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <27964.199510172125@ph.surrey.ac.uk>

it's suzanne vega...i *think* 'it's small blue thing', but it's
definitely suzanne vega.

rebecca.

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     "a dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his
     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 00:41:24 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bonster@alaska.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         muncho lake <bonster@alaska.net>
subject:      re: major 12c editing
x-to:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>

at 03:09 pm 10/15/95 -0600, you wrote:
>hi y'all--i'm back to prove to whoever cares that there was some major
>editing on 1200 curfews.  i mean they really did a lot of cutting and
>pasting.  ok--picture this...you're listening to disc 2 track 6.  the song
>is mystery.

i have to agree with greg on this one. the dialogue before mystery was a
definite edit. i was at the anchorage show (where the track was recorded)
and i don't recall that dialogue. not to mention that there weren't any kids
up in front!

are we a picky bunch or what?!

-bon
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 12:05:24 -0700
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              graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>
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from:         graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>
organization: grd
subject:      http://ukw3s1.ggr.co.uk/

watershed to uk video format

rebecca,

it is relatively easy to convert a us to uk video format. any
professional video editing or production company in the uk should be able
to do this at a reasonable cost. try looking onu up in yello pages.

i plan to buy and convert watershed next time i'm in the us.

adios,

gag
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 12:19:04 +0500
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              sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
subject:      re: several things
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>

>fourth: the disney special. wow, really cool. thanks for the highlights,
>neily, but you missed someone, and i gotta point it out. (she may want to say
>this for herself, but then again she may be too modest so...) another one of
>our very own, erica, was also on stage that night. she jumped up halfway
>through ctf, and she's the one who is  dancing _between_ a and e at the very
>end. i can say this for sure because i had the pleasure of watching the
>special with her last night at bert's party (hey guys.). exciting stuff. oh,
>and hey neily and kirsty and everyone else up there. nice to finally "meet"
>you!

>folkisgruven,
>lorindigo

yeah and she used me as a spring board to get on stage , nearly squashing
me to death in the process. i don't know...... you americans <g>.

i'm not going to let you forget that one erica <even bigger grin>

sharon

sharon. a. jennings
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univesity of nottingham
university park
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 12:48:38 +0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
subject:      re: disney concert highlights...
x-to:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>

>well, this is at least what i think the highlights were:
>
>--amy's pilgrim shoes and em's doc martins
>--amy's give me liberty t-shirt...what video did she wear this in?

touch me fall video..... and give me liberty is an excellent read.

>--emily's flannel...i think i saw this flannel on her a billion times in
>the last year...guess it's one of her favorite's...everyone's got some
>piece of clothing they want to seem to live in...

she wore flannel many, many times on that uk tour.

>--jerry not having any shoes on?

probably didn't... he's just a real cool dude.

>--em's guitar solo on dead man's hill and the camera close-up of her
>finger picking
>--the look on em's face during galileo when she says, "...you know me, i
>take everything so seriously..."

yeah really cute <g>

>--em's shirt from hammer and a nail on..did she spill on her shirt or is
>that sweat?

lots of sweat. it was kind of amusing watching it change colour throughout
the show.

>--amy screaming "all aboard!" during the jacob's ladder intro to this train
>--amy saying, "did you get 'em all?" right after the line "pull out the
>teeth" in this train

very, very powerful. go amy!!!

>--amy looks a thousand times better after she takes off that black and
>white button down...almost got a shot of the tattoo

the shirt had to be put back on for the re-shoot.... continuity and all
that. she made a coment that her hair was all wet and sweaty so jerry
offered her a hair dryer<g>

>--em smiling at the audience on least complicated with that smile that
>could make you melt
>--em dancing to change guitars after least complicated
>--ghost was amazing in general
>--watching amy mouth the part, "i go follow to the river..." during ghost
>--emily's emotion when she sings the line, "now i see your face before
>me, it would launch a thousand ships...bring your heart back to my island
>as the sand beneath me slips" during ghost...i was really moved by this.
>--amy's face on "we know the price now" during kid fears
>--amy yelling "prostrate" on closer to fine

she was yelling directly at me... it's a long story<g>

>--where's jane scarpantoni?

not on the tour.

>--who is that playing the penny whistle?

kirsti reeve

>--is that really bert playing tambourine next to sara lee?

neil (neily) hunt

>these are just my initial reactions...you may or may not agree with
>them...needless to say, yes i thought it was too short, but it always is...
>great concert...it was super to have all the camera angles and see their
>faces up close...
>
>later...
>carol
>jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

sharon
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 10:15:00 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
subject:      re: quote identification ?? (nigc)
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

it's from a suzanne vega song..i think the title is "small blue thing." it's
on her self-titled album.
-sheri


>does anyone have a clue what this is from ?? i only ask 'cause i think someone
>might...
>
>i am cold against your skin, you are perfectly reflected
>i am lost inside your pocket, i am lost against your fingers,
>i am falling down the stairs, i am skipping on the sidewalk,
>i am thrown against the sky, i am raining down in pieces,
>i am scattering like light, scattering like light, scattering like light...
>
>or something...
>
>thankee, and if you have no clue, i humbly apoligise for wasting your time...
>
>@}--,--'---
>
>  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
>  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
>  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
>  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
>  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
>  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
>  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
> /____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
>/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---
>
>
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 09:39:02 cdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              twb@zycor.lgc.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 16 oct 1995 to 17 oct 1995

scott was probably refering to getting a lot really rude personel emails
about insignificant things like his post signature.

trant

< date:    tue, 17 oct 1995 18:11:44 +0100
< from:    matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>

< who does scott whitlock consider "anal" anyway?   someone on irc said they'd
< signed off the list because there's "too much crap spewing off it".   does
< this mean nigc stuff?   there's no pleasing some people!
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 09:44:08 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
subject:      re: almost week-old experience of 1200
x-to:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>

>it sounds like you loved your grandfather very much.  i'm sorry he's
>gone.  i just got upset about my grandfather yesterday, and he died 5
>years ago.  go figure.  souls never die, no?

not in my book.  it's been, let's see, five or six years and i still feel
him with me sometimes.

>thanks for the response.  i got one other response, but they didn't give
>an original date, and i didn't recognise the composer, so if you figure
>anything out, please let me know.

finlandia by jean sibelius, 1899

there's two hymns in my book that use the tune:  "this is my song" (words by
lloyd stone and georgia harkness, 1934 and 1939 respectively) and "be still
my soul" (words by katharina von schlegel, 1752, translated by jane
borthwick, 1855).  interesting that the words for "be still my soul" predate
the melody they're currently set to.

i haven't seen watershed yet (bought it last night but haven't had a chance
to watch it yet)--what words are sung to it?  who sings it?  agh, i have to
know!!!

sorry.  if anyone wants the words to either of the above, let me know.

=joye

joye price mcburnett                  "i woke up in the middle of a dream,
jmcburne@origin.ea.com               scared the world was too much for me."
http://www.io.com/~joyebean/                             -amy ray
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 10:47:20 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      to: devil's advocate

          as far as tmf is concerned, i think it is beyond analysing!
          i didn't care for e's solo at the concert either, but that's
          jusr my taste.  different strokes for different fokes,
          right?  no one can be expected to like each and every note
          an artist puts into their music.  in that case, go to the
          next song if you don't like it!  there are a few songs here
          and there of ig that don't do a whole lot for me.  but i'm
          glad everyone is speaking up and expressing their opinions.
          it's pretty brave to go up against this entire net of fans!
                                              kimberly
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 10:41:03 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      ig on the radio?

          the only indigo girls song i have ever heard on the radio
          was "galileo" 5 years ago, and it was only on a few times.
          i heard a little of "power of two" (i think that's what song
          it was, i don't remember) on mtv's "the real world"
          needless to say, i was thrilled.  it is no where near the
          coverage ig deserves, but, you take what you can get right?

                               can't get enough of those girls,
                                              kimberly
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 10:58:45 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      my 12c story

           i have been replying to alot of messages, but have yet to
          tell my story of buying 12c.
           my friend and i were both dieing to get our hands on the
          cd.  we planned to meet after his class the day the cd came
          out.  then we sped over to circuit city and ran (not walked)
          to the cd section.  we looked under i in the alphabet and
          didn't see anything new, so we asked a clerk if this was
          indeed the due date for the new album.  she took us over to
          the "new release" section and handed me a brand spanking new
          copy of 12c.  i was speechless.  my friend instantly got
          himself a copy and we rushed home to hear the happy
          tunes.(and sad tunes, too)  we went to our own home to
          listen, to be by ourselves (ig can be very reflective when
          you're alone!).  he called me while i was in the middle of
          "river" (great song!!) and said "have you heard 'power of 2'
          yet?  kick ass!!"  then we decided that the whole album
          kicked ass!  there we sat in utter bliss listening to the
          new sounds of the girls!

            the end                 kimberly
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 11:03:15 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
subject:      nigc - ani difranco

hey y'all!!  not to start another "is mainstream coverage good?" debate,
but....  i just happened to turn the tv on while i was waiting for my
12:00 class, and who should be on mtv but ani!!!!  it was a good 4 minute
or so spot, excerpts from concert, an interview with tabitha soren -
totally unexpected.  just thought you guys might be interested.  keep
your eyes peeled for mtv news (if you can stand that damn channel that
long...)!
jenn
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 08:01:10 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              julia anne case <julie@julie.vf.pond.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julia anne case <julie@julie.vf.pond.com>
subject:      re: ig on the radio?
in-reply-to:  <9509188140.aa814041079@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu> from "kapage" at
              oct 18, 95 10:41:03 am

>
>           the only indigo girls song i have ever heard on the radio
>           was "galileo" 5 years ago, and it was only on a few times.
>           i heard a little of "power of two" (i think that's what song
>           it was, i don't remember) on mtv's "the real world"
>           needless to say, i was thrilled.  it is no where near the
>           coverage ig deserves, but, you take what you can get right?
>
        here in phila the indigo girls get quite a bit of airplay...
actually i would venture to say that y100 played "power of two" into the
ground, i heard it nearly every day leaving work...

julie
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 11:05:29 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: to: devil's advocate

hi jennifer shields.
        sorry if i wasted your time, but she is cool!
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 12:47:09 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              pst4@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sue orsillo <pst4@aol.com>
subject:      re: generosity

dont want to take up to much time, but i just had to post to the list because
i am overwhelmed with the response to my plea for help getting watershed in
oklahoma.  i finally bought it here, but i was blown away by the many helpful
suggestions and offers from other fans to buy and mail me a copy.  yes, we
all get off track every once and awhile, but the up-to the minute ig news and
generosity of other listmembers keeps me slogging through those messages!!

thanks y'all...sue
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 08:55:06 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              maggie poulos <me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         maggie poulos <me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu>
subject:      re: ig on the radio?
x-to:         julia anne case <julie@julie.vf.pond.com>

just to add to julie's comment about ig in philly...yesterday my brother
and i heard "river" on the way home and i heard "closer to fine" and "bury
my heart at wounded knee" over the weekend...i love getting an unexpected
ig surprise on the radio...
-maggie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
&                                                                           &
&    "years go by will i still be waiting for someboby else to understand   &
&                                     -tori amos                            &
&                                                                           &
&            "sitting in the sun waiting for life to begin                  &
&               looking for a sign where it starts and where it ends"       &
&                               -michelle malone                            &
&                                                                           &
&          "how come you say that's the way it is                           &
&           why don't you decide for yourself                               &
&           what you can do and what you can say"                           &
&                        -ani difranco                                      &
&                                                                           &
&           "and you live your life with arms reached out                   &
&            eye to eye when speaking                                       &
&            enter rooms with great joy shouts                              &
&            happy to be meeting"                                           &
&             -the innocence mission                                        &
&                                                                           &
&     "my being has been affected in ways i'll never be able to articulate" &
&                            -amy ray                                       &
&                                                                           &
&                     maggie poulos                                         &
&                     me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu                 *            &
&                        bkrbkr@aol.com                      ~m&f~
&
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 13:28:40 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
subject:      re: obsessed? nah. long.

        i've been reading posts and absorbing thoughts, opinions, emotions
etc. on the ig from this list for about nine months or so. (before and after
the list changed meisters)
        felt it was time i delurked and gave my confession of obsession.
        been listening to them for years, have all the cds, including ewr,
ntoh, jcs, bots.  went and saw them twice in 1995 but they weren't selling
posters at the concerts.  in desperation, i joined the ig fan club just to
get ig posters (swamp ophelia and pickney's store)and the "live at the
uptown lounge" video. my first and only fan club, which i am delighted to
say sent me an ig pic with the 1200 curfews release info.  yippee. :)
        continuing my madness, the video finally arrived, live at uptown,
and my receiver wasn't up to pushing the sound quality i just had to have of
the girls, so i put it on pause; went out and bought a new system just for
that one video. ( didn't care that my me video's sound wasn't that perfect
but it had to be for ig. :-))  i really love b&f live.  and you can sure
tell how much emily's voice has improved since then by listening to that
video.(its 1989)
        e-mailed a friend's brother in london and had him procure 4.5 for me
and send it back with her (she's forgetful); and in response to the
gentleman that figured there was no reason to get it since its just a
compilation of other releases; its like having a "best of" tape on cd that
you can drag along in others' cars when they limit you to just one cd.
        after waiting impatiently for 1200 curfews to be released, i left
work deliriously happy, at 10am, for the sole purpose of getting the cd and
the ws video.  got the cd at best buy for $16.99, liked it so much, went
back and bought a second copy for safekeeping just in case. (against what -
i haven't a clue)
        do i qualify for lauren's nutcase obsessed list yet? ok. more.
        best buy didn't have the ws video, neither did ent. central, so i
called perry at rainy day records and had it shipped to me.
        _then_ i went back to work....to subscribe to the disney channel so
i could record the ig special on saturday the 15th, which i got so excited
about that i set the recorder for 7:58 to 8:05 instead of 9:05.  but i
watched it and caught on after a few seconds and hit record again.  but
there's a blip so i'll have to record it again on october 27th.
        and of course i bought the screener when it came out.  and yet i
didn't notice the "crotch" shot of amy that jynne referred to.  just never
focused there i guess.
        never noticed their heighth, they have such stage presence they seem
larger than life, but i'm 5'10" and guess they didn't seem overly tall to me.
        i'm reading this list in the middle of the day and must go back to
work to earn the funds to indulge my ig junkie habit.  sorry the post was so
long.          got all of them out of the way at one time.
yours almost truly,

karen
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 15:18:22 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: video stuff production for watershed
x-to:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 17 oct 1995 19:07:35 -0400

mike, thanks for the post.  i was surprised to hear from you, considering
that we have not always been on the best of terms.  i would like to hear more
about what kind of experience and equipment you have, and any ideas you have
for this project.  the five hour radius was just a number i threw out, but if
you have the equipment to do something like this right, i would definitely be
interested in working on this with you.  a few others have e-mailed me about
this as well, wanting to be part of the production and editing process, so i
am looking to put together a good team that can work together well and put
together a high-quality production.  e-mail me back with your ideas.  talk to
ya soon.


let it grow

bert
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 14:53:27 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              horhay <gtuft@niu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         horhay <gtuft@niu.edu>
subject:      quick question

at the back of the inside of the insert of the album 1200curfews by the
ig(pardon my repetitive us of prepositions but it establishes a fine meter,
don't you agree?)...there is this e-mail address(a sign of the
times...techno ig.  gotta love it) that is for "fan club information."  well
i e-mailed this puppy, but no response have i got.  now i realize it's only
been 8 days since i posted my mail, but i was wondering if i should try it
again, or chill out and have a little patience(yeah, right).  i mean, this
address is on every copy of the album and i imagine many copies were sold
and the response to the e-mail address was large and i think i've probably
just answered my own question, but just in case...anyone out in
computer-land have any info for me?
huh?
do ya?
just-a-lemme-know.


horhay
george tuft
gtuft@niu.edu
northern illinois university
dekalb, il

"don't come here...
...the life will be sys-tim-atic-ly
sucked from your body."
                -george tuft on niu
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 14:33:33 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      virgin ig mailing list users
x-to:         twb@zycor.lgc.com
in-reply-to:  <9510181439.aa13620@orphan.zycor.lgc.com>

in trying to sort out all the conversations i have found myself in the
middle of, as a new user of the mailing list, i have one thing that i am
dying to know more about.

what's this "cover me grey" thing (and where can i get it!)
please help.

amanda

aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 17:20:38 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jaime meisler <jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu>
subject:      re: quick question

hi y'all!
  i also tried to e mail the fan club but i too received
no response. i sent it the first day i bought 1200 curfews which was
oct 11 at three thiry four and a few secs. so i will try again too but
i think they are packed!

                                peace love and the indigo girls,
                                jaime
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 17:30:56 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      >>>>cover me grey<<<<

       well, believe it or not, the cover tape is finally ready!!

what:  cover me grey (title by greg flamer, rock on) is a compilation of
songs that ig have covered and not recorded (with one exception).  it was
put together for pleasure, not profit.  i will be posting this exact
message periodically over the next few weeks.  it has a wicked cool
insert (grey paper--get it?) with artwork designed by ig fans as well as
the lyrics to all the songs included on the tape.  the songs are:

side a
american tune (autzen stadium, eugene, or, 8/22/93)
love of the common people (reverse-1)
cortez the killer (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
summertime (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88, with michael stipe)
bury my heart at wounded knee (radio 1, england, 6/23/95, no band)
bartender's blues (central park, ny, ny, 9/20/92, with sara lee)
water is wide (club r&r)
wild horses (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
thin line (the backyard (soundcheck), austin, tx, 9/1/94)
melissa (shades)

side b
wild, wild party at the loquat tree (put on your green shoes)
southern man (radio city music hall, ny, ny, 6/28/94, with cooper tisdale
        and kristen hall)
house at pooh corner (shades)
daddy's all gone (shades)
river (toad's place, new haven, ct, 12/9/90)
hairshirt (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88)
the weakness in me (live at san francisco epic promo--awesome)
down by the river (live at san francisco promo--awesome)
mona lisas and mad hatters (reverse-1)
midnight train to georgia (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with gail
        andorsey and jimmy descant)
finlandia (the pier, seattle, wa, 8/17/94, with caroline aiken)


some of the songs on this tape are versions that are to die for.  some
are not.  :)  i did the best i could, listening to sometimes 8 different
versions of a song trying to decide which one to use.  i am pleased to
say that there is only one song that, to me, is not extremely good
quality.  this is a bootleg project, though, so don't complain about the
quality of the tape unless you feel that this disclaimer is misleading.  :)


how to get one:  to get a copy of cover me grey, send $5 and a sase to
the appropriate branch of the tape tree (to be discussed below).  the $5
is to cover the cost of the blank tape (maxell xl ii high bias) and the
cost of the *insert* that goes in it.  the sase (a self-addressed, stamped
envelope) is to make the branches' lives easier.  the tape will be sent to
you in the sase that you send your branch, so you probably want to either
send a padded envelope or include packing materials (like newspaper).

if you live outside the united states:  send me private email and we will
work out a trade.  you will not be using the branches from the tape tree,
you will get your tape directly from me.

all profits, if any, will be donated to an organization which works to
reclaim and protect the rights of native americans.

ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)

if you are an aquarius (1/20-2/18), contact:
jude hunter
jhunter@rtc.gov

if you are a gemini (5/21-6/20), contact:
greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu

if you are a sagittarius (11/22-12/21), contact:
joan ferguson
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu

if you are a taurus (4/20-5/20), contact:
pamela shaw
sparkle@primenet.com

if you are a leo (7/23-8/22), contact:
brian colwell
brian@pas.rochester.edu

if you are a libra (9/23-10/22), contact:
mike bunch
mrbcom@earthlink.net

if you are a virgo (8/23-9/22), contact:
martine o'keeffe
okeeffe@lclark.edu

if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
alan fleming
daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com

if you are a pisces (2/19-3/20), contact:
deanna newcomb
deanna@dcez.com

if you are a scorpio (10/23-11/21) or a cancer (6/21-7/22), contact:
margaret clayton
maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

if you are a capricorn (12/22-1/19), contact:
carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu

also, when contacting your branch, make absolutely sure that the subject
line of your message contains the words cover tape (so that the branch
reads it promptly).  i sent this message to the tape tre branches and
cc'ed it to the list, so you should be able to reply directly to your
branch.  please delete all of the other addresses, as most of us don't
want to know that you want a copy of the cover tape (nothing personal).
please do not send requests for the cover tape to the list.  if you forget
who your branch is please wait and i will repost this message in a couple
of days.

well, i think that's it.  if there's anything that i forgot or if you
have any questions, please feel free to send me private email and i will
get back to you.  if i forgot something that warrants another posting to
the list i will do so.  thanks!!!!!

margaret
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 17:33:42 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-cc:         igfan@rcam.com

well, it is official.  this saturday will begin the most politically
incorrect world series in the history of the term politically
correct/incorrect.  while the terms themselves are meaningless, the issues
they represent are quite important.  if you haven't yet figured out what i am
referring to, it is the upcoming battle between the cleveland indians and the
atlanta braves.  while their team names are not as offensive as others like
the washington redskins, what goes on inside their respective stadiums is
offensive enough to merit a discussion.  it is the tomahawk chop vs. chief
wahoo.  in atlanta, hordes of fans root on the home team by mimicking (sp?) a
native american chant and hoisting their arms in the air in nazi germanesque
fashion.  this is not only tolerated by the ownership, but ted turner and
jane fonda (the ultimate pseudo-progressive) have shown their support for
this despicable action by joining in with the fans on several occasions.  in
cleveland, the team mascot is chief wahoo, a gross caricature of a native
american who gets the fans going by mimicking native american dances.  i am
not interested in getting into an argument about which of these offenses are
worse, for that is irrelevevant.  imho, they are both horrible, and while you
cannot force people to sit down and shut up at a baseball game, these teams
should issue public statements that these actions are an affront to native
americans and their history, culture, and heritage, and ask their fans to
refrain from showing their support in this manner.  this has yet to happen,
as far as i know, and until it does, i ask everyone on this list to boycott
the coming world series games, and to ask your friends and families to do the
same.  i know that a couple of hundred less viewers is not going to affect
the ratings, but it is the principle that counts.

i know that on several occasions, emily saliers has worn a braves cap during
concerts and has mentioned the braves as well.  in one of her letters printed
in the fan club newsletter she commented on how excited she was about the
success of this team.  i would like to believe that after their recent work
with native americans, emily has withdrawn her support of this team.  but i
cannot assume that.  i know how hard it is to stop supporting a sports team
that you have followed most of your life, and it would be arrogant and
completely out of line for me to expect her to do this or anything.  i do
find it disappointing, not disappointing enough to sell my ig cds and never
go to another ig concert, but disappointing nevertheless.  we live in a
complex world with complications and contradictions all around us, many of
which we create, and are forced to live with.  emily has to live with hers
and i have to live with mine.  i just wanted to bring this up for discussion.
if anyone else has a different take on this topic, please bring it up.  i am
sure that there is something i might be amiss on, and would welcome another
point of view.  thanks for listening and have a nice day.


let it grow

bert


ps - if you are wondering why i did not mention amy in this post, it is
because i have never heard her say anything about the teams, or wear any
clothing that would determine her supporting them, and it would have been
wrong for me to make any assumptions, based only on the fact that she has
lived her entire life in atlanta.  i have lived my entire life in nj, and
have spent most of my time here, hating the giants, so i won't assume
anything about her.  if anybody knows or has heard about her feelings on the
subject, please add them to the discussion, for it would fill in some of the
gaps that i might have left.  thank you.
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 08:33:11 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              maggie poulos <me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         maggie poulos <me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu>
subject:      re: thoughts after an amazing ig day
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>

hi all...
i don't know where to start...i haven't posted in a while...but now i've
got a lot to say:)  ok..here goes...
1.  12cc is amazing...i love everything about it..the highlight of the
album for me was that 3 songs were recorded at the tower in philly...i was
there...it was the night that michelle malone befriended me and took me
backstage..met the girls for the 1st time..it was amazing...dead man's
hill...need i say more?
2.  watershed is amazing. i loved all the candid screwing around on the bus
and backstage...i only wish it was longer:)
3. bert, your idea rules!!  the fan video would be amazing, i would love to
be a part of it...and editing....i have some experience...but one of my
best friends is a film student at syracuse univ....we could help...let me
know...
4. a late addition to "you know you're an ig fan when"...your best friend
calls you amy and herself emily in everyday convo..as mine does:)  and she
recites the "deciding which songs to play"...part of the watershed video as
there is a lull in the dinner time conversation...
i could go on forever, but i won't.....
a special *hello* to:  lorindigo, phil, lynn and joe h.(if you're reading this)
with dreams of immortality,
maggie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
&                                                                           &
&    "years go by will i still be waiting for someboby else to understand   &
&                                     -tori amos                            &
&                                                                           &
&            "sitting in the sun waiting for life to begin                  &
&               looking for a sign where it starts and where it ends"       &
&                               -michelle malone                            &
&                                                                           &
&          "how come you say that's the way it is                           &
&           why don't you decide for yourself                               &
&           what you can do and what you can say"                           &
&                        -ani difranco                                      &
&                                                                           &
&           "and you live your life with arms reached out                   &
&            eye to eye when speaking                                       &
&            enter rooms with great joy shouts                              &
&            happy to be meeting"                                           &
&             -the innocence mission                                        &
&                                                                           &
&     "my being has been affected in ways i'll never be able to articulate" &
&                            -amy ray                                       &
&                                                                           &
&                     maggie poulos                                         &
&                     me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu                 *            &
&                        bkrbkr@aol.com                      ~m&f~
&
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 16:47:13 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
subject:      feedback

hey all you ig fans!
i just subcribed yesterday and am loving it.  i live in the northwest and
not may people listen to the girls.  it's so great to see that other people
love the girls as much as i do.   responding to the individual who was
talking about air play of the girls- there is only one station in the
mpls./st.paul area that plays the girls and that's only once in awhile.  it
seem so stupid to me that music like the ig isn't played more often.  they
have such a meaningful grasp on life. i guess it's kinda nice to be able to
escape into my own little world with the girls and know that what i am
experiencing is felt by few.(no offense to any of you, cause i know, you
know what i am talking about)  anyway, thanks for the great insight!  by
the way, i'm wondering if anyone would be interested in exchanging some ig
type, original poetry?

-mich
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 15:07:10 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.814052022.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

                        bert.
                        bert.
                        bert.
                        it's just a game.

all things can be viewed from all different perspectives. would lesbians
be offended at the name: green bay "packers"? the team names were there
far before any 'social underlining' was done with their respective
names comparably.

sorry, darlin'. throw out that first pitch, i say! let the games begin.

--di, no baseball fan here, but trying to promote some clarity. ::grin::
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 15:17:28 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews pic in portland
x-to:         kristi vockler <psu01029@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ptx.3.91.951017190147.28734a-100000@odin.cc.pdx.edu>

u

on tue, 17 oct 1995, kristi vockler wrote:

> auto-pilot.  for people @ the girls honor the earth concert in portland,
> or; there is a picture of the race track where the concert was held.  it'
> on the left page, second to the right @ the top. between a capo/pics and

        to add to this, i'd like to ask all of those on the list who were
at the laguna seca concert (how many of us are there....three???) if they
believe the photo behind disk number two in the cd jewel box is our
monterey show.  i can see amy's ford windbreaker, emily's brown
horizontal brown shirt, sara's white hat, and (most importantly) those
lamp heaters on the right and left side of the stage.  man it was cold
that day...

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 18:21:56 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951018150041.3130d-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>; from
              "dianne" at oct 18, 95 3:07 pm

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christopher m. becker                       "trying to read the greek
mit center for space research                 upon the stars...."
cmbecker@space.mit.edu                           -- e. saliers

        http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/home.html     [my homepage]
  http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/nields/nields.html [nields' page]
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 18:31:47 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      multiple ig mailings

here's  my thought for the day...
i've been waiting anxiously for my letter from the fan club containing my
ticket and pic. well today i got not one, not two but three copies of that
letter. *grin* and sorry, but i'm _keeping_ the extra pics. ha! what's my
secret? well, *chuckle* i've written to them several times. (letters to them
plus ordering merchandise) and i guess i've spelled my address slightly
differently each time. their system is obviously computerized, because a
person would have caught the three almost but not quite identical addresses. i
have to laugh because i could really take this to an absurd extreme. if
pressed i could come up with 4 or 5 more ways to vary my name or address, and
then i could start throwing in my work address. gee, i could get 20 copies of
all the goodies they send my way. but no, i did the polite thing and emailed
them with the suggestion that they may want to correct this little oversight.
besides, what would i do with 20 copies of all the newsletters? :)

off to play with my new pics!

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 17:30:28 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "joye p. mcburnett" <jmcburne@origin.ea.com>
subject:      re: >>>>cover me grey<<<<
x-to:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>

this sounds great!!!  thanks!!!

one problem...i'm a cancer, and there wasn't a tape tree branch listed for
cancer.  should i just bug leo?  :)

thanks!

=joye

#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#
# joye price mcburnett                              jmcburne@origin.ea.com #
# associate producer, origin systems                       joyebean@io.com #
# austin, texas, usa                          http://www.io.com/~joyebean/ #
#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#~~#
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 15:39:50 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510182221.saa31856@netspace.org>

uhhhh..chris?
was that you trying to throw out the first pitch?
(pitch for us all to read his home page!!!!!)


on wed, 18 oct 1995, christopher m. becker wrote:

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> christopher m. becker                       "trying to read the greek
> mit center for space research                 upon the stars...."
> cmbecker@space.mit.edu                           -- e. saliers
>
>         http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/home.html     [my homepage]
>   http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/nields/nields.html [nields' page]
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 18:55:11 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951018153852.8645b-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>; from
              "dianne" at oct 18, 95 3:39 pm

>
> uhhhh..chris?
> was that you trying to throw out the first pitch?
> (pitch for us all to read his home page!!!!!)
>

*laugh* nah, the homepage needs work.  maybe sometime.

actually i was going to comment on the origin of the name "green bay
packers" (the short version -- the team was orignally sponsored by a
meat packing company, nothing offensive about that unless you're a
vegitarian) but i realized the thread was a pitch-out so i tried to
check my swing.

unfortunately, the e-mailer appealed to the first base umpire. i went
around so now i'm walking back to the dugout.

                        waiting for his next at bat,

                                   chris

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christopher m. becker                       "trying to read the greek
mit center for space research                 upon the stars...."
cmbecker@space.mit.edu                           -- e. saliers

        http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/home.html     [my homepage]
  http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/cmbecker/nields/nields.html [nields' page]
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 18:23:24 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      simple question....

this is probably a dumb question, and i probably should have read the first
mailer all the way through.........but i guess you'll just have to beat me
with a wet noodle or something. =)  is this listserv moderated as in some
messages can be rejected due to content/etc....or is it simply run by
someone?


thanks...

mandy
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 16:52:47 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              paula laine <plaine@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         paula laine <plaine@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu>
subject:      discography

i have checked everywhere i can think of and i can't remember or find the
ftp address for the 3 part ig discography. i am hoping it has been
updated since last fall.

can someone please help me with the correct address?
thanks-
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
        paula laine             south seattle comm college - library
        (206)764-5395           6000 16th ave s.w.
        library technician ii   seattle  wa 98106
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 09:57:23 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         piquet the cat <piquet@geko.com.au>
subject:      re: multiple ig mailings
in-reply-to:  <199510182231.saa55130@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on wed, 18 oct 1995, lorinda wright wrote:

> besides, what would i do with 20 copies of all the newsletters? :)

auction them off!!  *maniacal laugh*

o god, i need coffee....
sherlyn

ps - baseball?  that's a game, right?  (kidding, i know what baseball
is, i just don't give a... er... a thing :)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
piquet the cat - piquet@geko.com.au; aka sherlyn koo - sherlyn@geko.com.au
"well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you when you think everything's
        okay and everything's going right...
and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 18:52:40 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jennifer kim lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer kim lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      lagunaseca immortalized forever

well, a big thank you goes out to teresa for calling my attention to the
picture behind the second disc on the digipack for 1200curfews. laguna
seca! laguna seca! laguna seca! laguna seca! in other words, yes that
picture was definitely taken at laguna seca.  i had looked at it when i
first got the cd and thought it might be but then for some unknown reason
decided it wasn't.  but i just looked at my pictures from the concert
(not very good ones, unfortunately) and amy, emily, and sara are all
wearing the same outfits, and in a picture i have with my friends i can
see that little hill with the house on it in the background.  i was so
excited at this discovery!  now if we could just get a boot of the
concert. . .

jenn
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 22:19:13 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      re[2]: quick question

hi y'all!
  i also tried to e mail the fan club but i too received
no response. i sent it the first day i bought 1200 curfews which was
oct 11 at three thiry four and a few secs. so i will try again too but
i think they are packed!

                                peace love and the indigo girls,
                                jaime


if it makes anyone feel any better, i am in the same boat.  i tried
          the fan club on the 11th as well, and still nothing.  i
          guess good things come to those who wait!

          fare thee well
          rich
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 23:19:08 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.814052022.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

> well, it is official.  this saturday will begin the most politically
> incorrect world series in the history of the term politically
> correct/incorrect.  while the terms themselves are meaningless, the issues
> offensive enough to merit a discussion.

i find it interesting that not until two teams reaching the world series,
whose mascot happens to be related to native americans has this issue come
up.  it does indeed merit a discussion.

> it is the tomahawk chop vs. chief
> wahoo.  in atlanta, hordes of fans root on the home team by mimicking (sp?) a
> native american chant and hoisting their arms in the air in nazi germanesque
> fashion.

i always felt that this behaviour was respecting and supporting their
team.  i also felt that it was respecting our native forefathers since the
incomming pilgrim guests realized their importance and wisdom.  i am not
really into baseball and did not realize that braves fans did anything
similar to the nazi era.  this apauls (sp?) me.

> and while you cannot force people to sit down and shut up at a baseball
game

very true

> these teams should issue public statements that these actions are
> an affront to native americans and their history, culture, and heritage,
> and ask their fans to refrain from showing their support in this manner.

ok, i am feeling very naive, but are native americans really offended by
this????  i went to the native american indian festival last weekend here
in florida (for the third year in a row), and saw absolutely no
statements against this.  i did however see very many people, singers,
and cultural booths celebrating this heritage.  i had a blast, and bought
lots of new beads, charms, and symbols to make jewelrey again.  there is
going to be a pow wow at the beginning of december and i can't wait to
take my parents there to see all the traditional dance and costumes.

i know people from a lot of different countries, but no native americans,
so i don't know their feelings.  if there is an original american on this
list, would you please tell us your true feelings, and those of your
family and ancestors.

> i ask everyone on this list to boycott the coming world series games,
> and to ask your friends and families to do the same.  i know that a
> couple of hundred less viewers is not going to affect the ratings, but
> it is the principle that counts.

yes, it is the principle that really makes a difference in this world, no
matter how many people support it.  like i said, i'm really not into
baseball (especially since the big [where the hell did that come from]
strike).  i think we should all support rugby (a completely amiteur (sp?)
sport where people don't play for money, and as far as i know, has no
mascots that represent humans in any physical way).

> i know that on several occasions,
> emily saliers has worn a braves cap during concerts and has mentioned
> the braves as well.

i too feel that this was only a statement of support for her local team and
not a disregard for our native americans.  i (and my girlfriend at the
time) were very lucky to receive christmas gifts of a night out, with
dinner, and $20 each spending at the foxwoods casino in connecticut
(mashintucket pequot tribe i believe).  we had a blast!!  we could have
spent another day there, but i had an athsma attack and had to go home :(

> we live in a complex world with complications and contradictions all
around us, many of which we create, and are forced to live with.

i couldn't have said it better!

>  i just wanted to bring this up for discussion.

good discussion!!!

although i didn't realize this, appearently native americans are offended
that our nations sports leagues use related names for their mascots.  if
this is true, then i'm sure that atlanta and clevend (and every other
appropriate team) are very aware of this.  i therefore join you in your
boycott until all these teams address our native americans and make
appropriate changes.

i personally still have a weak spot for the new england patriots, and
hope that their season ends up as a good one.

like i said, fellow native americans on the list, come out, come out,
wherever you are.  please give this (me) naive member some insight into
your beliefs and culture.

(i have a dream catcher that i made myself btw, but lately it doesn't
seem to be working.  maybe because i moved i my bed, and not the catcher.)

peace

     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       betsy                     "if the world is night
                                  shine my life   \|/
       macmilla@fit.edu           like a light"  -> <-
                                - emily saliers   /|\
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=========================================================================
date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 22:59:49 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              darren matthew glass <darglass@owlnet.rice.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         darren matthew glass <darglass@owlnet.rice.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         betsy macmillan <macmilla@winnie.fit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951018222419.15354c-100000@winnie.fit.edu>

i really don't feel like getting into this discussion, as i am a braves
fan who supports native ameriican rights, but while you said that it
wasn't until _two_ teams made it to the world series that this became an
issue, i thought i'd point out that the issue has been brought up off and
on since at least the '91 baseball season...

dmg

=============================================================================
darren m glass                        "something's wrong with this world
darglass@owlnet.rice.edu                  when clowns need lawyers, too!"
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~darglass/            - too much joy
==============================================================================
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 23:05:53 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:      nigc

did anyone happen to see party of five tonight?  there was a song they
were playing on there during the last 5 minutes of the show and i was
wondering if anyone knew who it was singing and what the song is called.
anyway, let me know via personal e-mail if you know what it is.  thanks.

carol
  jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 00:18:37 +0000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jeff dunn/medicine <dunn1@jeflin.tju.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jeff dunn/medicine <dunn1@jeflin.tju.edu>
subject:      i'm leaving

i have been having a hard time with keeping up with 200+ messages from
not checking for a few days, so i'm going to have to unsubscribe.  but if
anyone needs to get me, my e-mail is dunn1@jeflin.tju.edu.  if anyone is
waiting for bootlegs from me, or if there is anything super-fascinating,
drop me a not.  thanks,

jeff dunn
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 00:12:20 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      mailing

i got a new fan club mailing today.  it features an ad for the
screensavers and a couple of t-shirts are now available with the 1200
curfews artwork on them.

it also features a brown ticket that features information on 1200
curfews.  the ticket is trying to invite you to buy 1200 curfews, it
really looks cool.

i just hope nobody out gets one and then tries to sell it.
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 08:24:18 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              wingstar@mulberry.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat stark <wingstar@mulberry.com>
subject:      re: fan club

>i got a new fan club mailing today.  it features an ad for the
>screensavers and a couple of t-shirts are now available with the 1200
>curfews artwork on them.


okay, so this has probably been asked a million times but i haven't seen it
yet so i going to ask.  would anyone out there be able to tell me how to
reach this fan club?  sounds pretty cool.  is this where the news letters
come from that i have seen talked about?

pat

                "adding up the total of a love that's true
                   multiply life by the power of two"
                               es

                  "nobody gets a life time rehersal
                  as specks of dust we're universal"
                               es
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 07:53:00 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rob_sticka@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rob sticka <rob_sticka@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond (nigc)
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>

maybe we should boycott all sports.

football:

dallas cowboys - look how they make fun of cowboys!  this is demeaning to all
past and current cowboys.  they have a mascot who supposedly dresses up like a
real cowboy but his clothes looks like something elvis (the fat elvis, not the
young elvis) would wear (excluding the cowboy hat of course).  talk about your
gross caricatures!

minnesota vikings - my ancestors were from scandinavia and having a viking as a
football team name is very upsetting to me.  how could they insult such a nice
group of people?  some goofball wearing horns runs around acting like he's a
viking - yeah, right.  go ahead, laugh.  my people have been attacked before and
we'll be attacked again.  we can take it.  i am going to seriously protest
(right after the super bowl).

basketball:

boston celtics - how you new englanders can live with yourself is beyond me.

more baseball:

seattle mariners - i know many sea-going folks and, believe me, they are about
ready to riot.  beating the indians would've made the problem worse.  this
hideous assault on mariners in full view of a world series audience would have
sparked a very large revolt.  everyone should consider themselves lucky - this
could've been another rodney king-sort of riot!

animal lovers - it's time to take serious action!!

denver broncos
baltimore orioles
chicago cubs
st. louis cardinals
miami dolphins
      .
      .
      .

the list goes on and on!

but why limit our attack on sports entertainment.  let's go all out and include
music entertainment.

10000 maniacs - are they attacking the mentally ill?
the beatles - not even insects are safe?
eagles - will this nightmarish attack on animals ever end?
indigo girls - don't tell me they're in on this conspiracy?  attacking half of
the population!  since i'm in the other half, i'll let this one slide.

now, let's get into high school/college team names....
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 08:52:32 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      you can still be an indian down at the y' (nigc)

first of all, i think bert should have his own talk show...

second...

just to state the obvious...typically a sports team is named after someone
or something that is perceived as a positive symbol of some good quality
such as strength, courage, ferocity.  presumably these are qualities which
the team should strive to emulate in the mock battle we know as competitive
sports.  i don't believe that the names are assumed in any pejorative sense.
for example, if there were a professional male sports team called the amazons
with an equivalent labyris (sp?) chop, the culture of professional male sports
would seem a good deal less (not more) mysogynic than it seems today.

on the other hand, the argument could be made that the use of symbols at all
in the context of the dominant culture is dehumanizing and enforces and
exploits stereotypes.

from where i stand in the cultural debate, there are degrees of offensiveness.
braves are perceived as heroic figures one of the functions of whom is combat
and i am assuming that the tomahawk chop emulates a brave aggressing in warfare.
in my mind, this would come in at the low end on the offensiveness spectrum.
i find the use of the term indians (as in the cleveland indians) more offensive
because there seems to be a stereotype of all native americans implicit in
name.  also, the decal that the cleveland indians use is clearly pejorative
in nature.  of course, the washington redskins are off the scale on the
offensiveness spectrum.

and just to be fair...while emily appears to be a big braves fair, she is
clearly a sports nut and probably can't help herself...(i live with one of
those so i know)...amy, on the other hand, has had promotional pictures
taken while wearing a cleveland indians jersey and i don't think she's even
much of a sports fan.

speak your mind (...as long as you agree with me :)
l. shampine
shampine@ll.mit.edu

disclaimer:  i hope people don't think i've been slamming amy a lot lately...
             i will forever worship at the altar of amy ray  (nobody's perfect but she comes pretty close :)...
             but i can't help calling a spade a f*cking shovel
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 09:26:30 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      baseball and stuff...

question.

are native americans offended by this??
i don't think i would be, but then i'm not easily offended, but...
as for the nazi thing, well, imho (and i admit i have no clue) i think that's
just silly. not that nazi's are silly, obviously, but just because something
looks somewhat similar to something a bunch of nasty people once did doesn't
mean that they're rising up to take over the world again...
reminds me of an x-files episode where they explained the origination and true
meaning of the swastika...

but the point, and analogy i'd like to make...i have a shirt which says...
'nobody knows i'm a lesbian.' (actually, if i don't go to the laundrette soon,
it'll be my only clean-ish one)
and the only people, person even who has found that offensive is straight. and
my few close lesbian/gay friends love it. (hey kirsti, jaq, anyone else...)

maybe i'm just tainted 'cause a lot of people in britain cry racism when it's
not their place...(like a lot of schools you can't sing nursery rhymes like
baa baa blacksheep....or a blackboard is now a chalkboard (or a greenboard..))

and finally...nomads*indians*saints
travelling indigenous peoples*native americans*religious icons just doesn't
seem to cut it for me...

@}--,--'---

  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 09:11:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kelly cregan <cregan@pluto.ee.cua.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kelly cregan <cregan@pluto.ee.cua.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.814052022.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

no way will i boycott this world series. clevelanders have waited 41
years for a world series! perhaps, bert, you need a little history
lesson. until the early 1900's the cleveland indians were known as the
cleveland spiders. the named was changed to indians to honor the first
native american major league baseball player, who happened to play for
the cleveland spiders. nevertheless, i  do hear the concerns of native
americans and believe we need to listen to them. i find the chief wahoo
logo offensive, but the baseball team is awesome and so is cleveland. go
tribe!
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 00:47:11 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews pic in portland
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9510181556.a14974-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>

yes! teresa. from the first time i saw that picture i was sure it's
laguna seca! in my cd box that pix is cut off, (i can't see the heaters
and a&e's jackets, but i'm sure of it. iwas in the front in the middle, i
wonder i if you can see me? i'm going to have to buy the jewel box cd
case!

derek


>         to add to this, i'd like to ask all of those on the list who were
> at the laguna seca concert (how many of us are there....three???) if they
> believe the photo behind disk number two in the cd jewel box is our
> monterey show.  i can see amy's ford windbreaker, emily's brown
> horizontal brown shirt, sara's white hat, and (most importantly) those
> lamp heaters on the right and left side of the stage.  man it was cold
> that day...
>
> "i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
> teri
>
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 00:35:34 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      guitar question (nigc)
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.814043902.indigboy@er7.rutgers.edu>

        to all and any musicians on the list,
i was at a friend of a friends jamming last weekend and he had a recording
setup that involved a vcr. i don't know exactly how it was set up, but it
produced a great sounding tape. does anyone know how you can use a vcr to
record like a 4 or 8 track? rob sticka, mr. indicated, you must know. any
help would be appreciated.

thanks,
derek
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 00:25:21 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      who needs the disney special?
x-to:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510180517.baa03806@peace.netspace.org>

        i would like to offer to tape and/or copy the ig show for anyone
who needs a copy. just send me a tape and a sase. e-mail me and i'll give
my address.

derek
frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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date:         wed, 18 oct 1995 21:36:17 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: nigc
x-to:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.951018230326.19642a-100000@jade.saintmarys.edu>

on wed, 18 oct 1995, jones wrote:

> did anyone happen to see party of five tonight?  there was a song they
> were playing on there during the last 5 minutes of the show and i was
> wondering if anyone knew who it was singing and what the song is called.
> anyway, let me know via personal e-mail if you know what it is.  thanks.
>
> carol
>   jone3176@saintmarys.edu.
>

carol,

i didn't happen to catch it tonight, but i have noticed a lot of
shawn colvin in the background on that show.  she's another one of those
greatly underappreciated musicians.  hope that helps.

kim


                          /\/^\  /\/\  //
kimberly nalder          /     \/  \ \/   \
political science        "as women connected to the earth, we are nurturing
ucd ta                and we are fierce, we are wicked and we are sublime.
(916)752-7106         the full range is ours." - terry tempest williams
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:17:53 +0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
subject:      re: http://ukw3s1.ggr.co.uk/
x-to:         graham hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>

>watershed to uk video format
>
>rebecca,
>
>it is relatively easy to convert a us to uk video format. any
>professional video editing or production company in the uk should be able
>to do this at a reasonable cost. try looking onu up in yello pages.
>
>i plan to buy and convert watershed next time i'm in the us.
>
>adios,
>
>gag

i looked into it when i bought some ig bootleg videos and the cheapest i
was quoted was 25 pounds per tape. some of the professional companies in
the yellow pages refused to do it because of copyright.

sharon

sharon. a. jennings
cancer research campaign laboratories
univesity of nottingham
university park
nottingham
ng7  2rd                   (0115) 9513408
england                (0115) 9513414  (fax)
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 07:18:26 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      baseball teams (nigc)

i read an article recently ( i cant remember where of course) that
talked about jsut this very thing....are native americans offended
by the baseball teams names?  according to this article, the names
do not offend the native peoples but the whoops/chants, tomahawk
chops, and mascots do.  it's a bastardizing of traditional and
sacred things and that is what is offensive.

one instance of a change in team names came at dartmouth college
about 5 or so years ago.  their "mascot" used to be an indian, though
i cant recall what the teams were called.  but the use of the indian
was deemed racist so now the dartmouth teams are called the dartmouth
green.  i recall that there was some controversy about the change, that
some people (probably the old white conservative alums) didnt think
it was a big deal, but the college made the change all the same.

and did you know the person who plays the cleveland mascot fell
out of the stands at a recent game and tore some ligaments in his
knee?  a sign perhaps?


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 10:42:32 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kelly cregan <cregan@pluto.ee.cua.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kelly cregan <cregan@pluto.ee.cua.edu>
subject:      re: baseball teams (nigc)
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951019070943.9181a-100000@crl.crl.com>

amy,

just for your info.--the cleveland mascot who fell out of the stands at a
game last week is not chief wahoo, but rather slider. slider is a a large
fuschia stuff animal that performs antics to entertain the fans,
similarly to the san diego chicken. slider should be offensive to no one.

kelly
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:01:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              joan ferguson <joan_ferguson@harvard.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joan ferguson <joan_ferguson@harvard.edu>
subject:      cover tape sagittarius people (nigc)

sorry to send this to the list, but there are way too many of ya'll to send
individual messages to (and, no, my email does let me create personalized
lists of recipients, sorry!) ...

it seems that my copy of cover me grey has been lost in the mail ... its
been over three weeks since the envelope was mailed, and i'm giving up.  i'm
going to drive out to mount holyoke (only a two hour trip and i want to get
this tape done! :-) to pick up the tape and inserts this saturday (and to
have lunch with margaret and visit my alma mater :-), and i should have
tapes in the mail monday morning for those of you who have sent me
envelopes.  if you haven't sent me your money/ sase yet, now is the time to
do so!  and, believe me, make sure there's enough postage on your return
envelopes!!! (we think that may be why my sase has gone missing ...)

now back to your regularly scheduled discussions ...

joan

                      joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
            harvard university library preservation office
"instead of loving your enemies,treat your friends a little better."
                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:11:07 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: baseball and stuff...
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

>and finally...nomads*indians*saints
>travelling indigenous peoples*native americans*religious icons just doesn't
>seem to cut it for me...
>

never mind the indigenous ones - what about new age travellers?

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 08:11:41 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: baseball teams (nigc)
x-to:         kelly cregan <cregan@pluto.ee.cua.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.951019104027.19093b-100000@pluto.ee.cua.edu>

thanks for the clarification kelly.  i had the game on in the
background at home and must have misunderstood what the annoucners were
saying.  oh well.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:20:42 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              joan ferguson <joan_ferguson@harvard.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joan ferguson <joan_ferguson@harvard.edu>
subject:      re: baseball and stuff...

in a particularly witty message, neil hunt wrote the following:

>and finally...nomads*indians*saints
>travelling indigenous peoples*native americans*religious icons just doesn't
>seem to cut it for me...
>
>@}--,--'---

*rotfl*!! sometimes you can take the political correctness thing *way* too
far - there's a place for it, and then there are places where it just
doesn't work (no more baa baa blacksheep?!  come on!!).  i'm all for sports
teams to be more sensitive, but it may be more constructive to educate fans
than to go for a wholesale change of team names ... especially in the
cleveland indians case, where the name was changed to *honor* someone.

as for the celtics here in boston ... no one even pronounces the name
correctly!! (people say it with an *s* = seltics ; proper pronunciation is
with a *k* = keltics) (this i know, because this semester i'm taking a class
on celtic paganism - fascinating stuff!)

joan

                      joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
            harvard university library preservation office
"instead of loving your enemies,treat your friends a little better."
                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:43:38 -0400
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              gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
organization: clemson university ilp laboratory
subject:      attention geminis!

hey y'all,

i'm going to be away from the action for about a week, so i'll be
unsubscribing from the list so my mail spool doesn't explode.
if you need to get in touch with me, e-mail me directly at the
adress below and i'll reply when i get back.

looking forward to a much needed rest,

--

greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
"would you trade your words for freedom?"
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:46:52 -0400
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              nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
subject:      what is the name for ig fans?

just a point of curiosity....if melissa etheridge's fans are called
ridgeheads and the grateful dead's devoted following are deadheads,
what are we (ig fans) called?

nancy
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:57:14 +0100
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              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: baseball and stuff...
x-to:         joan ferguson <joan_ferguson@harvard.edu>

>as for the celtics here in boston ... no one even pronounces the name
>correctly!! (people say it with an *s* = seltics ; proper pronunciation is
>with a *k* = keltics) (this i know, because this semester i'm taking a class
>on celtic paganism - fascinating stuff!)
>

it's  the same with the scottish football team (based in glasgow, i think) -
i mean, they pronounce it "seltic" in scotland!   (well, the news reporters
always do, anyway.   maybe it's different up there.)

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 09:09:55 -0800
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              carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         carla williams <cjwilliams@getty.edu>
subject:      what is the name for ig fans? -reply

well, the newsletter that carolyn spidle
produces out of plano, texas refers to us as
go-heads.
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:20:31 -0600
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              jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "julie l. kastning" <jkastnin3925@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
subject:      re: fan club
x-to:         wingstar@mulberry.com
in-reply-to:  <199510190824.iaa09592@uniquest.mulberry.com>

pat,
        all you have to do for fan club info is to write to: russell
carter management, ltd. / 315 w. ponce de leon ave. suite 755 / decatur,
ga 30030.  that address is in every cd insert as far as i know.  you'll
end up receiving the info on the t-shirts and sweatshirt available with
1200c's on it, the 1200c's pic, and the ticket with the release date on
it.  it took me a month to receive any info, so patience pays off!!  hope
this helps...
julie
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 12:28:02 -0400
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              shampine@ll.mit.edu
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from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      a rose by any other name...(nigc)

from the "been there, done that" department:

>just a point of curiosity....if melissa etheridge's fans are called
>ridgeheads and the grateful dead's devoted following are deadheads,
>what are we (ig fans) called?

long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the now legendary i-girl suggested
that we call ourselves "specks of dust"  (as in "but nobody gets a lifetime
rehearsal; as specks of dust, we're universal")...but i-girl has always
been somewhat of a visionary, ahead of her time...

i personally prefer 'go-heads...
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 12:37:41 est
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              rob_sticka@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rob sticka <rob_sticka@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject:      re: guitar question (nigc)

        >to all and any musicians on the list,
>i was at a friend of a friends jamming last weekend and he had a recording
>setup that involved a vcr. i don't know exactly how it was set up, but it
>produced a great sounding tape. does anyone know how you can use a vcr to
>record like a 4 or 8 track? rob sticka, mr. indicated, you must know. any
>help would be appreciated.


hard to answer without more information.  you can use a hi fi vcr to act as a
recording tape deck with excellent results.  the hi fi vcrs are supposed to be
near cd quality (better than the best cassette decks).  this will be regular
stereo of course.  were they recording all at once or were they recording one
instrument at a time?  if they were recording one at a time, they were using
some multi-track recording medium.  there are now digital 8-track machines meant
for the home user that use vcr tapes as the storage device.  these require an
8-track mixer which is a rather large piece of equipment (has lots of buttons,
knobs, levers, etc.).  i don't have one of these (got a few thousand to spare?)
but i can dream!  they also could have used a cassette (4 or 8-track) or reel to
reel 8-track recorder and put the final mix into a hi fi vcr.  also available
are 6 and 8-track machines that use hard disks as the storage device.

rob
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 12:55:17 -0400
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              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
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from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond

wow, what a relief -- i was afraid bert was going to tell us that emily chewed!

jo
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:32:00 -0400
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              moonjuicej@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie peel <moonjuicej@aol.com>
subject:      what is that line?

hi there,

i cannot for the life of me figure out one line that amy is singing in thin
line. the line right after  "with my confidence on fire". i have the chords
figured as close as i can, but just can't get that line. please help if you
can. thanks.

julie

always question
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:29:25 -0400
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              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510191655.maa11805@pluto.njcc.com>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, jo norvelle walker wrote:

> wow, what a relief -- i was afraid bert was going to tell us that emily chewed!

well, she does, you know.

        /\
       /  \  <-- dripping sarcasm
      |    |
       \__/

margaret
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:39:04 -0400
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              william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?
in-reply-to:  <pine.sv4.3.91.951019114357.23340a-100000@rbdc.rbdc.com> from
              "nancy humphries" at oct 19, 95 11:46:52 am

>
> just a point of curiosity....if melissa etheridge's fans are called
> ridgeheads and the grateful dead's devoted following are deadheads,
> what are we (ig fans) called?

never heard of "ridgeheads" before...what's it from?

i do recall a debate a few years ago about this very subject.  specks of
dust was a suggestion (i-girl, me thinks) as was go-head....however, a
casual reader of this list may concluded that "obsesive compulsive" may
be more accurate  :)

>
> nancy
>
bill
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 10:47:43 -0700
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              dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.951019132706.11994a-100000@axis.mtholyoke.edu>

indeed. she must. swallowing her food whole could definitely damage her
throat.
o:>
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:53:04 -0400
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              kkohara@aol.com
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from:         kathryn kohara <kkohara@aol.com>
subject:      re: what is that line?

there's a guitar cords page on the web.  if you go to the web crawler and
search under indigo girls, the cords page will come up.  they list a bunch of
songs and at the end of the list is an option for addition lyrics.  thin line
is on that page.  it doesn't have the cords just the lyrics.

kat
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:48:01 edt
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              yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?

some of my friends at home call me an indigohead. yeah, real creative, i
know. i call myself yen.

yen m tang
ymt2@lehigh.edu

"what i won't give to have the things that mean
the most not to mean the things i miss."
    --e.s. "language or the kiss"
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:16:44 -0500
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              jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
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from:         jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510191739.raa06122@soulcage.inmind.com>

i think that the fans of amy and emily should be called...
simply...

"iggies"


        jamie suthard

                "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
                                        -- indigo girls
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:12:23 -0400
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from:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>
subject:      another thin line ??

i always heard the opening of thin line to be:

thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the words

the lifeblood page has it:

thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the birds

so, which is it?  the birds thing doesn't really make sense to me, but if
that's what it is...

peace,
bill
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 11:22:37 -0700
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              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
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from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: what is that line?
x-to:         moonjuicej@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <951019133158_75585100@mail02.mail.aol.com>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, julie peel wrote:

> hi there,
>
> i cannot for the life of me figure out one line that amy is singing in thin
> line. the line right after  "with my confidence on fire". i have the chords
> figured as close as i can, but just can't get that line. please help if you
> can. thanks.
>
> julie
>
> always question

it is a toughie.  i think it's "i......(something) fiction of my goal">

kim
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:33:31 -0400
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              shampine@ll.mit.edu
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from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      find beauty in a bird (nigc)

>i always heard the opening of thin line to be:
>
>thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the words
>
>the lifeblood page has it:
>
>thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the birds
>
>so, which is it?  the birds thing doesn't really make sense to me, but if
>that's what it is...

i thought the time was past
when i could find beauty in a bird
i set the stage and the scenary
rehearsing every word....

now if bird were replaced with word, he wouldn't have much of a rhyme.

i think on one level he is expressing the sensation of being able to gain
pleasure from simple things which aren't cerebral or complicated...
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:40:37 -0500
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              cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      jcs chords??

hey everyone, i'm sorry if this has been posted recently, but i don't seem
to remember if it has, so i was wondering if any guitar gurus out there have
figured out any chords for any part of jcs.  if so, i'd really really really
love to have whatever you've figured out, i don't care what song really, i'd
just really like to be able to play any part of jcs.  (hmmm, did those
sentences have enough 'any's and 'really's in them?) or is there a place on
the web where chords have been posted?  any replies are greatly appreciated,
thanks in advance!

cylinda
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:49:38 -0500
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              deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: what is that line?
x-to:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>

>it is a toughie.  i think it's "i......(something) fiction of my goal">
>
>kim

actually it's  "i set to fixing up my role"

deb
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:26:52 -0400
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              strangefire <mccranie@ewirb-wr.robins.af.mil>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         strangefire <mccranie@ewirb-wr.robins.af.mil>
subject:      strange fire

hi, i've been reading the list for 3-4 months now with only
contributing to a few posts. i am a big fan of the song strange
fire. i would like more information/details about the religious
background of the song. anybody out there know?

(sorry if this has been discussed in the past)

-sherry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

       ...it may not be right for you,
                        but it's right for me...
                                   sarah mclachlan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:44:20 edt
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              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: strange fire
in-reply-to:  <95101915265204@ewirb-wr.robins.af.mil>; from "strangefire" at
              oct 19, 95 3:26 pm

>
> hi, i've been reading the list for 3-4 months now with only
> contributing to a few posts. i am a big fan of the song strange
> fire. i would like more information/details about the religious
> background of the song. anybody out there know?
>
> (sorry if this has been discussed in the past)
>

it has, but its a really cool topic.  this is a repost of somthing i
wrote a few months ago on my interpretation of sf.  it may even be my
favorite amy song...i vascilate a lot on that.

                                -- chris
------

>
>       in book ii of paradise lost, satan and company have just gathered
> their wits after a nine-day fall from heaven's heights to the dark flames of
> hell.  they hold a council to determine their next move, and the demon moloch
> speaks first, advocating a fiery revenge on god for damning the rebellious
> spirits:

    <lots of cool lyric interpretation, interesting ig reading deleted>

*smile*

  you know i love it when we talk about the music.  i like many of the
other conversations too.  i've learned of a number of great artists here,
have had my mind opened just a little bit more to the concerns of people
around me, and even have gotten into a flame war or two that i have
enjoyed.  but the best part is talking about the music....

  i posted something on strange fire a few months ago, and
unfortunately i can't find it anymore *sigh*.  here are my $.02...

  i also don't think of milton.  i think of "strange fire" as a
reference to pentecost in acts (chapter 2?).  for those not familiar
with the christian tradition, after jesus was crucified the apostles
were scared (who wouldn't be--they just killed your leader, they are
probably after you next) and were huddled together in the upper room.
eventually, the holy spirit decended upon them, and burned inside like
"tongues of fire" after which they were empowered and went forth to
preach the gospel all over the world.  remember as you read this that
amy was a theology major in college.

  the relevance?  luke (the author of acts) [note, the first time i
said it was paul.  no need to repeat the mistake =)] symbolizes the
holy spirit as this strange fire (get it?) which is moved simply by
god's love for his choosen.

  i think amy takes this a step further.  "_i_ come to you with
strange fire, _i_ make an offering of love."  her strange fire
recognizes that all human beings have this ability to empower via love.
it is not different than that empowerment that the holy spirit
gave the 12, it is one and the same.  we all carry this strange fire
with in us, if we recognize it.

the next verse speaks of pretenders..."mercenaries of the shrine, now
who are you to speak for god," and later "now who delivered you the
power to interpret calvary? ... i'm in another state of mind."  this
to me just emphasizes that the true spirit of god (spirit of love) does
not come to you just because you happen to be wearing the right vestments.
she shows absoulte contempt for people who use the name of god and spirit
and love for personal power and gain, while at the same time pointing
out that in each one of us is our own direct connection to the spirit,
whatever name you know it by, provided we recoginze it.

  finally amy gives us the key to recognizing this strange fire...

        "when you learn to love yourself,
          you will dissolve all the stones that are cast.
          now you will learn to burn the icey [icing?] sky,
          melt the waxen mask..."

you need to love yourself to recogize that fire inside you.  without
that, you feel the stones, are isolated under the sky, and hide behind
your masks.  just like the moments prior to penetcost, when the
apostles were frightened to an almost catatonic point.  the offering
of strange fire that i can bring to you can help you see that love for
yourself in your love for others.  it is only in sharing that offering
that we can move the world forward beyond the need to throw stones and
hide oneself.

  if you haven't guessed, i take this song very personally.  it
touches me in a significant way.  i'm a practicing catholic, but i
have a deep humanistic trend in me.  almost word for word i can apply
this song to my life and to my philosophy of existance.  i personally
feel all of humanity are sons and daughters of god, we all are part
divine and carry god and creation inside of us--the strange fire.  it
connects us all. our actions are a direct reflection to the extent we
recognize that "fire" in ourselves and the world about us.  our
ultimate vocation is to spread the knowledge of what is inside all of
us to each other.  mind you, you can take every reference to "god" in
this post out and substutite what you like.  i choose god because of
my traditions and what i've seen ("no way construction of this tricky
plan, was made by other than a greater hand.")

  ok, so it was a bit more that $0.02 =).  take it or leave it.
as we say in program, thanks for listening.

                        -- chris

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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:04:19 -0500
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              stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510191748.naa102645@ns5-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, yen m tang wrote:

> some of my friends at home call me an indigohead. yeah, real creative, i
> know. i call myself yen.
wherever did you get the idea to call yourself yen? (:

>
> yen m tang
> ymt2@lehigh.edu
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:25:43 -0500
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              stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
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from:         stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
subject:      chords

anyone know where to find chords for disappear fear?  anything for them
would be great...also, we have some talented people on this list, i am
wondering if anyone has figured out any melissa ferrick chords besides i
am not...i am trying to figure out faking and am coming
close...anyways...email me if you want...if not, dont.
thanks! (:
stephanie
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 12:38:52 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bonster@alaska.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         muncho lake <bonster@alaska.net>
subject:      re: another thin line ??
x-to:         william norris <wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com>

at 02:12 pm 10/19/95 -0400, you wrote:
>i always heard the opening of thin line to be:
>
>thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the words
>
>the lifeblood page has it:
>
>thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the birds
>
>so, which is it?

when gerard sings it, it goes, "thought the time was past/when i could/find
beauty in a bird . . ."

-bon
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:34:40 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      re: fan club
x-to:         wingstar@mulberry.com
in-reply-to:  <199510190824.iaa09592@uniquest.mulberry.com>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, pat stark wrote:

> >i got a new fan club mailing today.  it features an ad for the
> >screensavers and a couple of t-shirts are now available with the 1200
> >curfews artwork on them.
>
>
> okay, so this has probably been asked a million times but i haven't seen it
> yet so i going to ask.  would anyone out there be able to tell me how to
> reach this fan club?  sounds pretty cool.  is this where the news letters
> come from that i have seen talked about?
>
> pat
>
>                 "adding up the total of a love that's true
>                    multiply life by the power of two"
>                                es
>
>                   "nobody gets a life time rehersal
>                   as specks of dust we're universal"
>                                es
>
yeah, i've been curious about this, too. please forward info when you get
a chance. thanks

secure yourselves,

amanda
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:27:54 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      re: lagunaseca immortalized forever
x-to:         jennifer kim lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.91.951018183918.20725a-100000@amy24.stanford.edu>

i am so jealous. am i the only one on theis mailing list who has not yet
had the pleasure of meeting amy and emily?! how do you people do it?
sigh....

amanda

p.s. i have met melissa etheridge, though. she's just as beautiful in
person.
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 13:29:02 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              moj <moj@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         moj <moj@crl.com>
subject:      re: another thin line ??

(william norris said it, so it must be true!):
=>
=> i always heard the opening of thin line to be:
=>
=> thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the words
=>
=> the lifeblood page has it:
=>
=> thought the time was past/when i could/find beauty in the birds
=>
neither... the correct line is:

i thought the time was past when i could find beauty in a bird

i'm going to upload the chords to this song and will post them later this
evening.

peace,
stacie
--
                ,-----------------------------------.
         )))    | gimme a quarter or i'll touch you |
        (o o)   _)----------------------------------'
----ooo--(_)--ooo-------------------------------------------------------------
                  email:    moj@crl.com
                    ftp:    ftp.crl.com /users/mo/moj/
           house o' moj:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/
       adoption options:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/adoption/adoption.html
        fruitopian life:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/fruitopia/fruit.html
          melrose space:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/melrose/mp.html
              wondervan:    http://www.america.net/~wndrgirl/
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:42:41 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
subject:      re: offensive things
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <4864.199510190826@ph.surrey.ac.uk>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, mr neil hunt wrote:

> question.
>
> are native americans offended by this??
> i don't think i would be, but then i'm not easily offended, but...
> as for the nazi thing, well, imho (and i admit i have no clue) i think that's
> just silly. not that nazi's are silly, obviously, but just because something
> looks somewhat similar to something a bunch of nasty people once did doesn't
> mean that they're rising up to take over the world again...
> reminds me of an x-files episode where they explained the origination and true
> meaning of the swastika...
>
> but the point, and analogy i'd like to make...i have a shirt which says...
> 'nobody knows i'm a lesbian.' (actually, if i don't go to the laundrette soon,
> it'll be my only clean-ish one)
> and the only people, person even who has found that offensive is straight. and
> my few close lesbian/gay friends love it. (hey kirsti, jaq, anyone else...)
>
> maybe i'm just tainted 'cause a lot of people in britain cry racism when it's
> not their place...(like a lot of schools you can't sing nursery rhymes like
> baa baa blacksheep....or a blackboard is now a chalkboard (or a greenboard..))
>
> and finally...nomads*indians*saints
> travelling indigenous peoples*native americans*religious icons just doesn't
> seem to cut it for me...
>
> @}--,--'---
>
>   |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
>   |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
>   |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
>   | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
>   c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
>   |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
>   |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
>  /____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
> /      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---
>

this is kind of unrelated to the indigo girls, but i have noticed that
the people included in a group tend to be the least offended by perceived
attacks on them. but, i think that only happens when, the people in the
group know the person(s) making the "attack". par example, about the
"nobody knows i'm lesbian" thing: i think the gays and lesbians who are
unoffended by this probably know you and know that you don't mean it in a
derogatory way. or, when i use the word "dyke", my close friends don't
take it offensively, because they know i mean it as a self-inclusive
thing. however, i would never use that word around someone who didn't
know me well, because they wouldn't understand the context. the point of
all this aimless rambling is that i think the names of the baseball teams
could be considered offensive by native americans because there is no way
of knowing how those names were originally meant or what images they
convery to the huge numbers of americans who hear and use them.
this response has gotten a wee bit out of hand. sorry. but i hope i've
made my point.
rock on, a and e...

amanda
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:43:18 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      re: guitar question (nigc)
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9510190012.b3319-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu>

> i was at a friend of a friends jamming last weekend and he had a recording
> setup that involved a vcr. i don't know exactly how it was set up, but it
> produced a great sounding tape. does anyone know how you can use a vcr to
> record like a 4 or 8 track? rob sticka, mr. indicated, you must know. any
> help would be appreciated.

you can use vcr's audio tracks to record audio just like anything else,
but i've never heard of more than 2 tracks being done... there's no
reason it couldn't with a special deck, but with a normal vcr, i don't
think so. aren't 8-track dat's done on vhs tapes? i had just heard that.
maybe not.

generally you want a good vcr if you want an increase in quality. usually
when people do this they use vcr's with "hifi" sound, which is better
than your standard tape. basically, you set up your mics and such, put
'em into a mixer, output to two tracks (left and right) and put those
into the vcr input for audio, hit record and yer set.


good luck.

/~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
|   |_| \-\ |-  |
\__ | | \_/ |_  |
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:47:26 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rickfstr@vnet.ibm.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rickfstr@vnet.ibm.com
subject:      ig on kfog in sf / 1200 thoughts

*** reply to note of 10/13/95 18:39
from: rick foster
subject:  ig on kfog in sf / 1200 thoughts

i'm not sure if someone mentioned this before, but for those of you in the
bay area kfog 104.5 will be "featuring" ig on october 29th -- meaning that
they'll give them a lot of airplay. they just played "joking" from 1200 a few
minutes ago and the dj said "the crowd energy on this album really makes it
stand out" :) and she gave it some other compliments.

and now a couple of my many many thoughts on 1200:
- pushing the needle is absolutely incredible! wow!
  especially near the end in the calm reprise:
  amy's "prayer on your brea ea ea eath",
  the extra bars while the audience reaction to it dies down
  then the way she says "god'll save you"
  then the gorgeous "think i know what's wrong" harmony
  then the intense section (ending with great "i think i know what's wrong"s)
  then the perfect "pushin' the needle too far" to end it -- i always
    visualize the needle (of a meter) rising/holding on the "pushin'"
    and making a gentle spike on the "needle"
- i agree with those of you who do not like the sax on love's recovery.
  it's a real drawback on the song imho.
- maybe i'll post more thoughts on 1200 later if y'all aren't sick of them!

rick

------------------------------------------------------
"who loves us? nobody!"               -- emily saliers
"there's a lot of love in this room!" -- jerry marotta
"alright!"                            -- amy ray
"<smooch>"                            -- ??

---------------------------------------------------------------
rick foster, issc, palo alto california, 415-855-4390 (t/l 465)
         rickfstr@vnet.ibm.com <or> rfoster0 at bldvma
---------------------------------------------------------------
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:57:35 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
subject:      ig-type poetry

amanda-
   that's cool that you would like to exchange poerty.  i don't have any
time, now, but maybe later tonight.  if you want to send me a sample of
yours in the mean time that would be really great.

                                        peace,
                                           mich
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:43:09 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      ack: re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>

acknowledgement of message.
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:49:01 +0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
subject:      sony www site

hi folks,

for the last few days i haven't been able to get into the sony www site. i
keep on getting a not found, not on this server, this link no longer exists
message. is anyone else having any problems? i was trying get in to see the
new ig pages.

has anyone in the uk had the newsletter yet? i'm seriously considering
sending them my address again because mine hasn't arrived yet. it's been 18
months or more since the last one.

bad news from epic in the uk.... they do not intend to release the
watershed video here and they are not going to be releasing any singles
either. i want to live in america..... and i will be from january<g>

take care
sharon

sharon. a. jennings
cancer research campaign laboratories
univesity of nottingham
university park
nottingham
ng7  2rd                   (0115) 9513408
england                (0115) 9513414  (fax)
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:18:45 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: nigc
x-to:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.951018213421.20484f-100000@chip.ucdavis.edu>

on wed, 18 oct 1995, kimberly nalder wrote:

> i didn't happen to catch it tonight, but i have noticed a lot of
> shawn colvin in the background on that show.  she's another one of those
> greatly underappreciated musicians.  hope that helps.

        very well said.  shawn colvin is probably one of the most
underrated singer/songwriters out there and it's great to know that
others  (particularly in the sac valley) feel similar.
        btw kim, my band "mental splooge" is playing the beat (cd store
midtowm in sacramento) on november 10th.  i would love to meet someone
else on the list.  any upcoming "diane patterson sextet" gigs you know of?

sorry ya'll, a little shameless plugging on my part.  but we do some ig
covers, if that is of relevance.

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 17:27:26 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: ack: re: what is the name for ig fans?

>acknowledgement of message.
>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! it did it again!!!!! sorry folks. i had no idea that my
stupid stupid stupid computer was the originator of these annoying little
messages. i just went back and checked my "mail options" file, and i _think_
i figured out what's wrong, and i _think_ i corrected it. if not, please don't
shoot me! it's entirely unintentional!!

so i'd better add some igc before y'all get peeved at me...
on what to call ourselves: "go-heads" *giggle* that's cool. but i like what
yen said too. (although we couldn't all call ourselves yen. that would be
silly.)

there was a question a while ago about ws and what emily says when a fan hands
her two carnations and she gives one to amy who puts it in her mouth. i don't
know if y'all have figured this out for yourselves yet, but just to make sure,
emily says something to the effect of "i think they were both for me, but you
reached your greedy little hand over here..." and the crowd laughs
uproariously.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
(who suddenly finds herself with all these great ig guitar picks to play with)
  =:p

  iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:26:19 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510191655.maa11805@pluto.njcc.com>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, jo norvelle walker wrote:

> wow, what a relief -- i was afraid bert was going to tell us that emily
chewed!


        *heehee* jo.  like we really need another tobacco debate!  "what
about emily's gums!"  "as a role model, how can she do snuff???"  "is
chewing tobacco environmentally safe and what toothpaste can she use?"
"actually, i can confirm em chews cause she spit a wad of brown spit on me
while i was watching them at the greek theater in the front row!!

        as good ol' ms. saliers says pre-least complicated "you gotta
laugh at yourself cause if you didn't you'd cry your eyes out..."

peace,
teri the red man
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:39:59 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans? -reply
in-reply-to:  <s086163e.004@getty.edu>

i've been using goheads for quite a few years now...  i'm glad to see
others are using it too...

graham ames             youngbear (irc)
mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu     kindness, joy, and friendship -- the sacred things

        white people are doing things in reverse.
        they think that by going into the sweatlodge
        or buying drums and rattles, they will become spiritual.
        not necessarily.  instead, if you live in a good way,
        you are spiritual.  then, the ceremonies come
        as a means of expression.
                                -rolling thunder

_in the middle of this road we call our life_ -- james w. jones
_care of the soul_ & _soulmates_  -- thomas moore
_life after god_  -- douglas coupland
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:42:14 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond

you wrote:
>
>no way will i boycott this world series. clevelanders have waited 41
>years for a world series! perhaps, bert, you need a little history
>lesson. until the early 1900's the cleveland indians were known as the
>cleveland spiders. the named was changed to indians to honor the first
>native american major league baseball player, who happened to play for
>the cleveland spiders. nevertheless, i  do hear the concerns of native
>americans and believe we need to listen to them.

......that is too cool actually.  i didn't know that, thanks for
pointing it out to me.

but the baseball team is awesome and so is cleveland. go
>tribe!


..........ahem!  i'm sorry, but we down here in atlanta already know
that the braves are gonna kick the your (tribes) butt!!  :)
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 17:37:11 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: baseball and stuff...
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

>but the point, and analogy i'd like to make...i have a shirt which says...
>'nobody knows i'm a lesbian.' (actually, if i don't go to the laundrette soon,
>it'll be my only clean-ish one)

neil, this is rotfl funny. you're too cool for words. :)

folkisgruven,
l-

iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:46:38 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?

you wrote:
>
>>
>> just a point of curiosity....if melissa etheridge's fans are called
>> ridgeheads and the grateful dead's devoted following are deadheads,
>> what are we (ig fans) called?

.......i don't like go-heads...i suggest indigo-go's   :)
=========================================================================
date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:47:08 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: lagunaseca immortalized forever
x-to:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.951019162609.8024b-100000@minerva>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, amanda m leff wrote:

> i am so jealous. am i the only one on theis mailing list who has not yet
> had the pleasure of meeting amy and emily?! how do you people do it?
> sigh....

        no amanda, you're not.  at lagunaseca, i tried to get close to
the stage and my brother wandered around and exchanged a few  sentences
with emily (2, to be exact).  however, i'd like to add that i am entirely
convinced that emily smiled in response to something i yelled out from
the audience.  emily and amy were looking down at the set list and emily
informed us that they were trying to figure out the set list.  everyone
starts yelling out names of songs from left to right and i put my two
cents in (i really wanted to hear mystery live...oh well) and i realized
how many requests they were getting so i screamed out "play every song
you've ever written!!!!!!"  sweet emily, looking down at the setlist,
raised her head up and gave the warmest smile.  my heart froze  "oh oh
god, oh god...did she hear me???  did she hearme???"  the only way i
could justify going on with life is to just believe she found something i
said funny!!   yippppppeeeeskiiipppeeee!
        yeah, folks, i know...desperate.  did anyone else in monterey
hear me besides the sea lions????

"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
teri
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 14:59:25 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      kristen hall (nigc)

hi, all...does anyone out there collect chords and/or tablature for kh's
songs?  i have a couple but i'm looking for lots more.  thanks!

*****************************************
jill frankel
jefrankel@ucdavis.edu
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:58:09 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jamie suthard <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      re: ack: re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510192127.raa81490@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

iggies!!!
iggies!!!
iggies!!!

that's all i have to say on the subject!


        jamie suthard

                "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
                                        -- indigo girls
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 17:59:56 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "lori h. levy" <llevy03@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "lori h. levy" <llevy03@emory.edu>
subject:      re: sony www site
x-to:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <v01510100acac223d1c16@[128.243.118.245]>

> for the last few days i haven't been able to get into the sony www site. i
> keep on getting a not found, not on this server, this link no longer exists
> message. is anyone else having any problems? i was trying get in to see the
> new ig pages.

sony has apparently changed their url.  try this:  http://www.sony.com/

that should get you to the main sony page and from there you can get to
the sony music site (and the ig page) and then add the new url to your
hotlist...

:) lori
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:26:26 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kristi vockler <psu01029@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kristi vockler <psu01029@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
subject:      administrative stuff

could somone send me info on hwo to subscribe.  i deleted it, and need to
give it to somone.  thanks

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- kvockler@pacifier.com
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:00:48 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: what is that line?
x-to:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
in-reply-to:  <v01530506acac4dfd1f25@[151.186.5.88]>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, deb reiser wrote:

> >it is a toughie.  i think it's "i......(something) fiction of my goal">
> >
> >kim
>
> actually it's  "i set to fixing up my role"
>
> deb
>
>
yeah, sorry, i made a guess that was way off.  i do think it sounds
rather poetic, though.

kim>

                          /\/^\  /\/\  //\
kimberly nalder          /     \/  \ \/   \
political science        "as women connected to the earth, we are nurturing
ucd ta                and we are fierce, we are wicked and we are sublime.
(916)752-7106         the full range is ours." - terry tempest williams
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:09:50 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kimberly nalder <klnalder@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: sony www site
x-to:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <v01510100acac223d1c16@[128.243.118.245]>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, sharon jennings wrote:

> hi folks,
>
> for the last few days i haven't been able to get into the sony www site. i
> keep on getting a not found, not on this server, this link no longer exists
> message. is anyone else having any problems? i was trying get in to see the
> new ig pages.
>
> has anyone in the uk had the newsletter yet? i'm seriously considering
> sending them my address again because mine hasn't arrived yet. it's been 18
> months or more since the last one.
>
> bad news from epic in the uk.... they do not intend to release the
> watershed video here and they are not going to be releasing any singles
> either. i want to live in america..... and i will be from january<g>
>
> take care
> sharon

i've had the same problem with the sony site.   i guess it's not just my
system either.

kim


>
> sharon. a. jennings
> cancer research campaign laboratories
> univesity of nottingham
> university park
> nottingham
> ng7  2rd                   (0115) 9513408
> england                (0115) 9513414  (fax)
>

                          /\/^\  /\/\  //\
kimberly nalder          /     \/  \ \/   \
political science        "as women connected to the earth, we are nurturing
ucd ta                and we are fierce, we are wicked and we are sublime.
(916)752-7106         the full range is ours." - terry tempest williams
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:21:28 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              moj <moj@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         moj <moj@crl.com>
subject:      crd/tab/lyrics: "thin line"

thin line
words and music by gerard mchugh,
from album "more than i" (daemon records)
(c) 1990 rodney's rib music


intro: g, g/f#, c

g             g/f#     c
i thought the time was past when i could
g    g/f#        c
find beauty in a bird
g         g/f#          c
i set the stage and the scenery
g  g/f#          c
rehearsing every word

            d
chorus: but when i tried to make it more
                    c      g
        well it was always less
                      d
        'cause it's a thin line between pleasing yourself
                     c             g, g/f#, c
        and pleasing somebody else


g          g/f#          c
so with my confidence on fire
g        g/f#         c
i set to fixin' up my roles
g   g/f#      c
separation of desires
g           g/f#          c
just put me deeper in the hole


chorus

g          g/f#          c
so now i'm tryin' to get back
g         g/f#      c
to what i know what i should be
g         g/f#     c
hoping to god that i was just
g      g/f#      c
a temporary absentee


chorus


here's tablature for the way i play the chords:

      g         g/f#        c          d

e-----3----------3----------3----------2----------|
b-----3----------3----------3----------3----------|
g--------------------------------------2----------|
d---------------------------2---------------------|
a-----2----------2----------3---------------------|
e-----3----------2--------------------------------|
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 15:45:29 pdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
subject:      name for ig fans

how about "enlightened one's"?
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:28:20 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              moj <moj@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         moj <moj@crl.com>
subject:      req: chords/tabs for local musicians (nigc)

i sent this request recently to the atlanta musicians list but, having
gotten little response, i thought i'd send it here as well.

i am looking for an ftp site that specializes in the chords/tablature of
independent musicians.  if one is not already in existance, i'd like to
start one, and need the chords and tabs that have been posted to this
list in months and years past.  as a former "archie girl", i have access
to most of gerard's stuff and have figured out the music to various other
local artists' songs.

people i am interested in (but not limited to) are: kristen hall, wendy
bucklew, michelle malone (unless someone is going to start arguing about
copyrights), matthew kahler, shawn mullins, don conoscenti, gerard
mchugh, millan & kenzie, caroline aiken, ashley & mark, jen & lara, evan
& jaron, ellis paul, ani difranco, roger day, susan werner - the list is
endless.

please e-mail me privately with your responses.  thank you.

peace,
stacie
--
                ,-----------------------------------.
         )))    | gimme a quarter or i'll touch you |
        (o o)   _)----------------------------------'
----ooo--(_)--ooo-------------------------------------------------------------
                  email:    moj@crl.com
                    ftp:    ftp.crl.com /users/mo/moj/
           house o' moj:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/
       adoption options:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/adoption/adoption.html
        fruitopian life:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/fruitopia/fruit.html
          melrose space:    http://www.crl.com/~moj/melrose/mp.html
              wondervan:    http://www.america.net/~wndrgirl/
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 16:59:21 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      (nigc)  ani in berkeley

hey all!
        all this talk about ani difrancoand i haven't heard a thing from
her.  so i was wondering if there was anyone around the sacramento valley
and bay area who were going to see her in berkeley.  ive been thinking
about going cause i trust everyone's opinion and taste in music.  i
believe it is november 13.  email me privately if you do have extra info
onn this show, please..

peace all,
teri
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:18:09 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

>"actually, i can confirm em chews cause she spit a wad of brown spit on me
> while i was watching them at the greek theater in the front row!!


neat, teri!  have any left to share?  maybe we could have an auction?

jo
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:22:06 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shelby <slt115@psu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shelby <slt115@psu.edu>
subject:      write back please

hi everyone, this is my first time really talking on this list.  i've been
subscribed for about two months now and sort of just sit back and observe
what everyone else is talking about.  i was introduced to ig last year by a
friend and can't get enough of them now.  i actually have another friend
who is in a band called "third street" and they are three women who play
acoustic guitar and sing.  they sound very much like ig and play a couple
covers by ig, however, they write their own music which is really, really
good.  i'm not just saying that because they are my friends either.  if any
of you are in the syracuse area ever look up who's playing at what bar and
go in and listen, they're really great.  anyway, enough rambling.  i really
wrote to tell you all that i am embarassed that i tried to unsubscribe a
while ago.  i tell you that because this week i read a couple of messages
that i really related to.  like the offensive words one.  i also write
poetry so if anyone (amanda or michelle) is interested in hearing some,
i'll be glad to write some down.  i'd also love to hear anyone else's.  i'm
a real poetry/literature/english nut.  my poems aren't really ig related,
but they're poems none the less -- i even got one published this summer.
sorry, i had to toot my own horn for a moment.  anyway, i would love to
hear any poetry or anything people have written.  sorry for trying to
unsubscribe earlier and sorry for rambling.
                                                shelby
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        i have slipped the surely bonds of earth
        and danced the skies on laughter, silvered wings
        sunward i've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth
        of sunsplit clouds
        and done a hundred things that you have not dreamed of,
        wheeled and soared and swung high in the sun-lite silence.
        hovering there i pushed my eager craft along
        through footless halls of air.
        up, up the long, delirious burning blue,
        i've topped the wind-swept clouds with ease and grace
        where never a lark or even eagle flew
        and while with silent lifted mind i've trod
        the high, untrespassed sanctity of space,
        put out my hand, and touched the face of god.
                                        john gillespie mcgee, jr.
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 17:39:42 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jennifer kim lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer kim lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      re: ig on kfog in sf
in-reply-to:  <199510192047.qaa17890@netspace.org>

on thu, 19 oct 1995 rickfstr@vnet.ibm.com wrote:

> i'm not sure if someone mentioned this before, but for those of you in the
> bay area kfog 104.5 will be "featuring" ig on october 29th -- meaning that
> they'll give them a lot of airplay. they just played "joking" from 1200 a few
> minutes ago and the dj said "the crowd energy on this album really makes it
> stand out" :) and she gave it some other compliments.

cheer of joy, cheer of joy- i'm so excited :) thanks for sharing.


> "who loves us? nobody!"               -- emily saliers
> "there's a lot of love in this room!" -- jerry marotta
> "alright!"                            -- amy ray
> "<smooch>"                            -- ??
>


one question- are you sure emily says "who loves us? nobody!"?  i kind of
thought it sounded like amy doing a falsetto, but what do i know?  what do
y'all think?

-jenn
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:36:06 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deb <indigo@clark.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: ig and cowboy junkies

bonnie edwards <bonnie.edwards@actamed.com> wrote:

>     i dont know if there are many other cowboy junkie fans out here, but i
>     just found it kind of curious that the two groups that i started
>     listening to at the same time (~1989) both had double live cd's out
>     the same day.  kind of strange, but much enjoyed.  another interesting
>     point to note is that both cd sets have a hidden track.

yes, it was a good shopping day... ig cd and video, and new cowboy junkies
and k.d. lang too. if the tracy chapman hadn't been postponed, it would
have been even better...

--
deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 10-19 20:36 est \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:37:59 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deb <indigo@clark.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      cowboy junkies; watershed

bonnie edwards <bonnie.edwards@actamed.com> wrote:

>     i dont know if there are many other cowboy junkie fans out here, but i
>     just found it kind of curious that the two groups that i started
>     listening to at the same time (~1989) both had double live cd's out
>     the same day.  kind of strange, but much enjoyed.  another interesting
>     point to note is that both cd sets have a hidden track.

yes, it was a good shopping day... ig cd and video, and new cowboy junkies
and k.d. lang too. if the tracy chapman hadn't been postponed, it would
have been even better...

                               =-=-=<>=-=-=

elana cooper <ecooper@ljcrf.edu> wrote:

>well, we finally bought the 2cd set last night.  boy, am i impressed with
>this one.  my deep-rooted enthusiasm for ig has finally resurfaced, for the
>first time in about 3 years.  i'm glad it's back.

i know just what you mean.

>"watershed" is nice as well.  much more professional than live at the uptown
>lounge.  overall, the videos didn't do much for me, though.

really?  i love "hammer and a nail"  and "galileo"!

--
deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 10-19 20:38 est \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 21:35:12 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
organization: the american university
subject:      re: chords
x-to:         stephanie parsons <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
in-reply-to:  message of thu, 19 oct 1995 15:25:43 -0500 from
              <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>

hi everybody!
speaking of df, is there anyone out there in the d.c. area who wants to go see
them at the birchmere next weekend?  i don't know anyone around here who likes
them and is available.
jen
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:58:09 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?

ridgeheads, deadheads, phisheads....crazy-blender-heads (ala s-n-l)

hmmm....indigo heads?????  too uncreative....anyone esle???


mandy
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:13:01 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510200156.uaa11124@cayman.ucs.indiana.edu>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, just call me norma ray wrote:

> ridgeheads, deadheads, phisheads....crazy-blender-heads (ala s-n-l)
>
> hmmm....indigo heads?????  too uncreative....anyone esle???

chickenmen... um, er, women... um... people? yeah, chickenpeople. *grin*

k
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:10:57 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?
x-to:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510200156.uaa11124@cayman.ucs.indiana.edu>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, just call me norma ray wrote:

> hmmm....indigo heads?????  too uncreative....anyone esle???

blues fans.  :)  ha ha

margaret
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:07:29 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      role model??

          amen to the smoking messages concerning amy's private life.
           she did not become a musician to be a role model.  and i'm
          not just talking about smoking.  if she had a cup of coffee
          in her hand, would non coffee drinkers be complaining about
          that?  i know i'm going to be flamed for this, but that's
          just what i think.
                                kimberly
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 21:26:20 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
subject:      re: name for ig fans
x-to:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>

>how about "enlightened one's"?
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i like this label best of all. (if we have to have a label!)  enlightened
to the wonderful spirituality of the girls!

                                  mich
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:22:18 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              guinione@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         guinione@aol.com
subject:      disney concert highlights...

c'mon now ... one highlight i haven't seen pointed out ...

amy just drenched with sweat ...

ok - maybe it's just me :0

chris
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:12:33 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      appropriate sax

          just a quick message on the sax in love's recovery.  i liked
          it.  it was a nice change of pace in the album.  it was just
          for one song and i think it created a nice atmosphere for
          the overall mood of the song.  it creates a relaxing
          atmosphere for night driving, which is one of my favorite
          times to listen to the girls.  am i alone in thinking that
          their music sounds great in daylight, but at night it seems
          more, oh i don't know, special, for lack of a better word?
          anxiously awaiting replies,
          rich
          rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:16:16 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: name for ig fans

<how about "enlightened one's"?


this i could go for
rich
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 21:30:59 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      my very own 1200 curfews experience....

i have been reading with interest everyone's experiences in buying and
listening to these amazing cd's...and i have to say it is about damn time
i have my own to share! =)

i had about an hour to kill before my bus came, so i thought it a perfectly
wonderful time to get my very own copy.  the bus ended up having
problems...so it i *patiently??* waited about 2 hours before i was able to
get home.  i was so excited i couldn't get those damn plastic things they
put on cd's off fast enough!  finally!!!  here i am, with cd1 in the cd-rom
drive!!!!!!!!  there isn't a word that describes this kind of pleasure!
best of all.....power of two!  this song is sooooo immensily meanigful
and special to me....kinda of "our song", yo uknow??  let me tell you--i
still have permagrin. =)  =) =)

and now, tangled up in blue--the bluesy jazzy part is on.  ahhhhhhhh!
i am heaven....the first listen is always sinfully pleasurable for me,
then i get into the dirt of the words.  i am so happy i could bust.
if only my good buddy jen (hi!) weren't watching grease in indy right now.

arrrtghghghghgh!  oh well, her loss. =)  (hehehe....)

permagrinning away!
mandy
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 21:39:48 ewt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: chords

disapper fear chords....if no one already has em--give me a year or so and
*maybe* i can figure em out. =)


mandy
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:16:48 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michelle miklya <michelle.a.miklya@uwrf.edu>
subject:      where is uwrf?

   kira-
     i'm not sure that you got my reply so if this is repetitive please
disregard. (sorry)  uwrf is the university of wisconsin at river falls.
only a few hours from you.  it is very close to the mn/wi border.  i also
think that cool saying are just as good if not better than poetry!  well
maybe not better, but just as meaningful. anyway here's a poem.


     you said why don't you grow fields of flowers?
     my reply- flowers can't grow by will alone
     just like closed hearts can't be filled
     flowers grow from the love of sunshine
     why can't we do the same?

     don't tell me why
     your answers can not fill me
     i already know why-
     because sunshine from seperate worlds is different
     one ray feeds a flame, the other burns into nothingness
     you are that nothingness.


                             peace,
                                 mich
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 22:30:02 est
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              kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kapage <kapage@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      re[2]: homophobic fans?

          i saw that bill replied to something i replied to.  i wasn't
          flaming anyone!  i understood his comments and expressed my
          opinion.  i would hate for all of you out there to think i'm
          out to bash everyone!  bill, we still love you!
                               kimberly
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 20:40:40 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              edgy <edgy@netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         edgy <edgy@netcom.com>
subject:      re: name for ig fans
in-reply-to:  <9509198141.aa814166952@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, rsimpson wrote:

> <how about "enlightened one's"?

er...with a little twist: iglightened ones...

allison                 speaking of your publicist, i think i saw her at
edgy@netcom.com         off vine, doing lunch with a couple of parenthetical
                        hollywood types -- they were vacillating between the
                        white zinfandel and a straight answer.
                                --"e.w." (9/27/95)
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 23:41:04 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: ig on kfog in sf

>
>> "who loves us? nobody!"               -- emily saliers
>> "there's a lot of love in this room!" -- jerry marotta
>> "alright!"                            -- amy ray
>> "<smooch>"                            -- ??
>>
>
>
>one question- are you sure emily says "who loves us? nobody!"?  i kind of
>thought it sounded like amy doing a falsetto, but what do i know?  what do
>y'all think?
>
> -jenn
>

i gotta agree with you. i thought it was amy trying to sound 'risky':)

yen m tang
ymt2@lehigh.edu

"what i won't give to have the things that mean
the most not to mean the things i miss."
    --e.s. "language or the kiss"
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 23:47:46 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      tracy chapman???when??
in-reply-to:  <27uhwo70sxbf085yn@clark.net> from "deb" at oct 19, 95 08:36:06 pm

i remember her next album was to be released in oct. 1993, then pushed
to '94 , now it is eventually <i hope> coming out (pun sorta intended--but
only as an afterthought).

someone also said she toured this spring, any tapes floating around, i still
have a few to get done, but just knowing they exist would be cool
heck...anything from crossroads or matters tours would be great!

as for poetry fans, count me in, i just dropped foundations of literary
analysis (soph. level requirement i "accidently" skipped) so i can spend
more time writing my thesis (anthology of creative writing) and i am
working with an excellent poet/instructor named kathleen lignell.

be careful about posting poems tho---you could be forfeiting first
publication rights as public email lists are considered "public publication"
--not discourageing it in any way, just some info for the future
maya angelou's , alice walkers and ee cummings out there

mike r.
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date:         thu, 19 oct 1995 23:56:40 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: what is the name for ig fans?

>on what to call ourselves: "go-heads" *giggle* that's cool. but i like what
>yen said too. (although we couldn't all call ourselves yen. that would be
>silly.)
>
excuse me? are you trying to say my name is silly? are you making fun?
ok, that's it. i'm going to start a flame war over my name:)

see, it relates to ig. let me show you.... uh, nevermind, it doesn't.

yen m tang
ymt2@lehigh.edu

"what i won't give to have the things that mean
the most not to mean the things i miss."
    --e.s. "language or the kiss"
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 01:27:50 -0700
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              derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: lagunaseca immortalized forever
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9510191452.a26431-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>

i heard you teri! stage left in front of e. btw, i got backstage and met
a and e, and jane s. , and cooper. sorry, didn't mean to gloat...but i
and alot of others heard you t. you're a good go-head (is that what we've
decided to call us?)

derek
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 09:47:00 +0100
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              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: lagunaseca immortalized forever
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>

teri- weren't you the one who told emily you'd like to camp out outside her
place?

mat

>on thu, 19 oct 1995, amanda m leff wrote:
>
>> i am so jealous. am i the only one on theis mailing list who has not yet
>> had the pleasure of meeting amy and emily?! how do you people do it?
>> sigh....
>
>        no amanda, you're not.  at lagunaseca, i tried to get close to
>the stage and my brother wandered around and exchanged a few  sentences
>with emily (2, to be exact).  however, i'd like to add that i am entirely
>convinced that emily smiled in response to something i yelled out from
>the audience.  emily and amy were looking down at the set list and emily
>informed us that they were trying to figure out the set list.  everyone
>starts yelling out names of songs from left to right and i put my two
>cents in (i really wanted to hear mystery live...oh well) and i realized
>how many requests they were getting so i screamed out "play every song
>you've ever written!!!!!!"  sweet emily, looking down at the setlist,
>raised her head up and gave the warmest smile.  my heart froze  "oh oh
>god, oh god...did she hear me???  did she hearme???"  the only way i
>could justify going on with life is to just believe she found something i
>said funny!!   yippppppeeeeskiiipppeeee!
>        yeah, folks, i know...desperate.  did anyone else in monterey
>hear me besides the sea lions????
>
>"i aim to please the girlies..." -e.s.
>teri
>
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 11:47:33 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              fiona sanderson <fionas@rmplc.co.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         fiona sanderson <fionas@rmplc.co.uk>
subject:      re: quote identification ?? (nigc)
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

>i am cold against your skin, you are perfectly reflected
>i am lost inside your pocket, i am lost against your fingers,
>i am falling down the stairs, i am skipping on the sidewalk,
>i am thrown against the sky, i am raining down in pieces,
>i am scattering like light, scattering like light, scattering like light...
>
small blue thing suzanne vega    fiona :)
how about next friday - guitar
there's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked
line...
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 09:07:02 -0500
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              jennifer callahan <callahj@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer callahan <callahj@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>
subject:      unsubscribe

please take me off this mailing list.

thank you.

j. callahan

jc
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 09:15:19 +0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
subject:      re: appropriate sax
x-to:         rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>

>          just a quick message on the sax in love's recovery.  i liked
>          it.  it was a nice change of pace in the album.  it was just
>          for one song and i think it created a nice atmosphere for
>          the overall mood of the song.

i enjoy it too, but probably more becayse they used the sax in the last
concert that i saw of them.  at the time it really blew me away because that
is one of my favorite songs, and the sax came as such a suprise.

j
________________________________________________________
jack mitchell
jamitch3@vt.edu
106 west eggleston hall
virginia tech
blacksburg, va 24060-0020
phone: (540) 232-6371
http://www.sv.vt.edu/mitchell/

if i could wish for my life to be perfect, it
would be tempting but i would decline, for
life would no longer teach me anything.

                         - allyson jones
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 09:25:22 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              gina canali <gina@ovation.physics.yale.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gina canali <gina@ovation.physics.yale.edu>
subject:      subject: re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond (nigc)

a brief comment:

(imho) i believe that these teams are celebrating their respective
groups, not making fun.
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 06:50:54 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      tracy chapman (nigc)

for those wondering, her new album "new beginning" was pushed back to
a new release date of nov 7.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 10:57:18 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jennifer callahan <callahj@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer callahan <callahj@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>
subject:      i want off this list, now!

please take me off this mailing list.

thank you.

jc
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 07:59:56 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "j. elaine mccracken" <jemccrac@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "j. elaine mccracken" <jemccrac@uci.edu>
subject:      re: excerpts from rop tour program (long)
x-to:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
in-reply-to:  <m0t313t-0009rzc@rbdc.rbdc.com>

i was surprised to read that emily lived in minnesota when she was
fourteen. does anybody have more details about this time in her life?
where did she live in minnesota? how long did she stay? hey -- i could
have gone to high school with her depending on where she was living
(unless she was only there during the summer months)!!!

j. elaine mccracken
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 10:52:26 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              whitlock@hiwaay.net
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         scott whitlock <whitlock@hiwaay.net>
subject:      re: i want off this list, now!
x-to:         jennifer callahan <callahj@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>

>please take me off this mailing list.
>
>thank you.
>
>jc
>


jc,

before you get flamed, let me tell you how to get off this list.  you don't
address mail to indigo-girl@netspace.org.

this is how you do it.

write mail to

listserv@netspace.org

in the body of the letter, put the following message

unsubscribe indigo-girls

that should do it.  next time, though, please read everything listserv sends
you.  it talls you how to do things like unsubscribe.

later,

scott
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 10:28:39 cdt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              twb@zycor.lgc.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      native protest, response to neily
x-to:         ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk

hi neil,

there are some groups who claim to represent native americans, and probably
are native americans, that have complained that somr of the sports team names
like washington redskins are belittling to native americans.

most people feel that they are really using this kind of high profile event
to gain notariaty for there particular group.

typically this type of protest hurt efforts to help native americans with
very real problems because they cause groups who are more genuine to loose
credibility.

trant
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 16:48:05 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: tracy chapman (nigc)
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>

has anyone heard tracks off it (eg on promos or on radio) and if so, is it
any good?   her last one was not that good (in fact, some said it was a
complete turkey).

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

from amy j. putnam:

>for those wondering, her new album "new beginning" was pushed back to
> a new release date of nov 7.
>
>
>amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
>pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
>                              /
>the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
>
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 11:17:20 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: re[2]: i don't want - download
x-to:         rob_sticka@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov

rob,

        this worked!!!!  thanks for all of your help.  i now have more music than i could ever ask for  --- thanks again.

alycia

>files that are .z compressed can be read by using the gzip program.  you can get
>gzip via www site crusty.er.usgs.gov/gzip.html or ftp site
>prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu
>
>so go get this gzip software and download some .z files.
>
>aftern you download the compressed file, execute this command in msdos:
>
>gzip -d fileid.z
>
>the file has to have the .z extension - this should work!
>
>lorinda is right about the nevada mirror site and there are several other mirror
>sites available as well.
>
>good luck!
>
>rob
>
>
'cause the trouble in my head
is getting closer to my legs
i've got to walk it out
and the trouble with my heart
is that i can't take it out
and the trouble with myself
is that i don't know me
so if you find me
would you kindly show me
the way home                                      - melissa ferrick
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 09:46:39 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      oops...

hi everyone!
        i was sifting through the ruins of my room this morning and found
a sase from someone on the list, and realized i had not sent the articles
out to about three people when for some reason beyond me i thought i had
sent out.
        i'm going to go throuugh my stuff today and when i get the
envelopes, i ll send them out to the folks by next week.  to kind of make
amends in any way i can, you aall will be recieving your postage back.
i'll stick 2 or 3 stamps in the envelope so you all won't have to feel
you spent you 74 cents in vein.  and if i can't find your envelopes, i
might have to ask for addresses again, but i'll mail at my expense, just
out of fairness.  i'll be posting the names of those i find, but i think
there are only three of you who sent me something...

         i'm sorry i haven't been so prompt, but
it's just been that kind of month(s).  when 12k and watershed were
released, i lost track of reality anyways...

sorry guys,
teri
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 12:07:26 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: tracy chapman (nigc)
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

this past spring, i heard tracy in concert in cincinnati, ohio.  she played some of her new music at that show.  it was really good -- one song i was singing in my head for a couple of weeks.  i think it was called "the promise" but my memory is not that good.  the lyrics were really inspirational.  i would recommend her new album, just based upon the couple of songs i heard at this show.
alycia


>has anyone heard tracks off it (eg on promos or on radio) and if so, is it
>any good?   her last one was not that good (in fact, some said it was a
>complete turkey).
>
>mat
>mts5@aber.ac.uk
>
>>from amy j. putnam:
>
>>for those wondering, her new album "new beginning" was pushed back to
>> a new release date of nov 7.
>>
>>
>>amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
>>pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
>>                              /
>>the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin
>>
>
>
'cause the trouble in my head
is getting closer to my legs
i've got to walk it out
and the trouble with my heart
is that i can't take it out
and the trouble with myself
is that i don't know me
so if you find me
would you kindly show me
the way home                                      - melissa ferrick
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 13:40:05 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>

>>"actually, i can confirm em chews cause she spit a wad of brown spit on me
>> while i was watching them at the greek theater in the front row!!
>
>neat, teri!  have any left to share?  maybe we could have an auction?

hey hey hey!!!
that's gross. i was eating, ya know. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo


iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 11:24:40 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
x-to:         jo norvelle walker <jo@pluto.njcc.com>
in-reply-to:  <199510191655.maa11805@pluto.njcc.com>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, jo norvelle walker wrote:

> wow, what a relief -- i was afraid bert was going to tell us that emily chewed!
>
right on! :)  way to go, jo!

meanwhile i have two questions about this crazy debate.

1. like (someone) said, only they were kidding, but seriously--what is
the difference between using braves or indians and using vikings,
trojans, whatever?

2. once again, seriously--if it trivializes native americans to have a
team called the braves, then it trivializes non-human animals to have all
the many names that teams do. i agree with the person who said naming a
team after a group of whatever is to praise good qualities. i mean, think
of it..this could get stretched into some crazy extreme. like, arizona
state is the sun devils. and there was actually debate for a while about
how this offended religious sensibilities. uggghhhhhh!!! i just have to
shake my head here--of all the crazy things to worry about.  i remember
thinking, when first presented with the "indians is an evil name for a
team" theory a few years back, 'hey, that's true!' but, like i said, why
is that any difference from anyone else? (vikings, etc.)

scary that every mailing list i am on is having simultaneous random
threads that won't die.

linda
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 14:26:58 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              moonjuicej@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie peel <moonjuicej@aol.com>
subject:      thanks for thin line answers

thanks to all y'll out there who replied to my post about the line from thin
line. i now feel fulfilled when i sing it instead of wondering what the heck
i'm trying to sing. thanks again.
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 18:18:48 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      error on 12cc...
x-cc:         x@ph.surrey.ac.uk

hey :)

and there was great rejoycing throughout the land this fair autumn day, for
neil did finally get his grubby paws on this new ig's release...

i was kinda dissapointed...but...
what i would give for it to have been a triple. (i'm sure only a little
perspiration would have been required to stretch it to four, but...)

galileo. is from london shepherd's bush empire, tuesday 22nd november, not the
21st as the notes say...there were two nights there, both were recorded, but
only the second was filmed, and with a bit of nifty button work, the cd matches
_perfectly_ with the pictures/sound, like it keeps tempo all the way and
everything...so maybe language is from the next night too...

but hey, i was at both shows. first, i'm on two tracks of paul mccartney's
'tripping the live fantastic' (which has a _very_ similar style/feel to this
new album...) and now two tracks on !@)) curses. where will it all end...

@}--,--'---

  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 12:45:59 -0600
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         b4 t w- cd g++ k+ s++ r <mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu>
subject:      baseball, native americans, and issues
in-reply-to:  <199510201740.naa41780@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

this whole thing is reminiscent of some other things that have gone on in
other circles lately.

i had some friends belittling me because i went to see the mel gibson
film _braveheart._  now, i'm gay, and mel is known for his anti-gay
statements, etc.  there were various and sundry gay groups putting out
statements denouncing braveheart for it's "rabid homophobic content" and
other things like that.

but, i happen to like medieval epics, and couldn't resist red-bearded men
in kilts for 3 hours.

after seeing the film, i was reminded of it's supposed anti-gay message,
and upon reflection, couldn't find one.  i mean, there are some _very_
weak undercurrents regarding homosexuality, but nothing that could be
construed as any kind of "message."  plus, none of my straight friends
(meaning everyone else who saw the film with me) picked up on anything at
all.

the long and the short of this is this:  these gay lobby groups which
were putting out all this anti-mel gibson rhetoric ended up looking like
extremist, ranting fanatics.  they especially looked like this to most of
the straight people i know who heard about it, which i would suppose
would be their target for their rhetoric in the first place.  now these
people are less likely than ever to actually pay attention to gay groups
when they hear them ranting.

it's the corner preacher syndrome.  you stand on your soapbox and rant
and rave, and pretty soon, you are dismissed into the background and you
might as well not be there at all.

that's how most of america will view this world series/native american
thing.  the issues are not the same, but the effects are.  people with
_real_ issues involving n.a.'s will be dismissed as "another one of those
crackpots."

at least, that's how it looks to me...

graham ames             youngbear (irc)
mcgee@acca.nmsu.edu     kindness, joy, and friendship -- the sacred things

        white people are doing things in reverse.
        they think that by going into the sweatlodge
        or buying drums and rattles, they will become spiritual.
        not necessarily.  instead, if you live in a good way,
        you are spiritual.  then, the ceremonies come
        as a means of expression.
                                -rolling thunder

_in the middle of this road we call our life_ -- james w. jones
_care of the soul_ & _soulmates_  -- thomas moore
_life after god_  -- douglas coupland
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 14:23:18 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mccarthy <mccarthy@ldd.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         mccarthy <mccarthy@ldd.net>
subject:      derek & margaret

sorry to post to the mailing list, but i've tried to privately e-mail both
of you guys about your respective tapes, and it keeps sending the messages
back to me.  i'm pretty new at this, so tell me if i'm doing something
wrong.  please e-mail me your addresses.  thanks!!

nicole
(waiting patiently with her sase's)


mccarthy
@ldd.net
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 14:13:07 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
subject:      list t-shirts????

hello out there!  i was wondering if any of ya'll ordered list shirts
from jon miner last month (or whenever).  if so, has anyone actually
received their order?!?  i am anxiously awaiting mine and need some
reassurance that it will (someday) arrive.  thanks!
jenn
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:11:12 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      and now a history is written in a liar's scrawl...(nigc)

>it's the corner preacher syndrome.  you stand on your soapbox and rant
>and rave, and pretty soon, you are dismissed into the background and you
>might as well not be there at all.
>
>that's how most of america will view this world series/native american
>thing.  the issues are not the same, but the effects are.  people with
>_real_ issues involving n.a.'s will be dismissed as "another one of those
>crackpots."

>at least, that's how it looks to me...

in other words,

don't be so uptight....
you can still be an indian down at the 'y on saturday night...

l. shampine
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:23:28 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jaime meisler <jm7711@cnsvax.albany.edu>
subject:      re: excerpts from rop tour program (long)

howdy y' all!
  i jsut wanted to say that emily lived in new haven when she
was a little girl and then she moved south. i have not heard
that she lived in minnesota and amy and emily met when em was twelve
and amy was eleven and they were both in the same school.
i think emily lived in new haven, connecticut and then
moved to the south.
                                  peace love and indigo girls,
                                     jaime
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:37:00 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              deborah gordon <dgord02@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deborah gordon <dgord02@emory.edu>
subject:      re: watershed at emory / happy ncod!
x-to:         "lori h. levy" <llevy03@emory.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sv4.3.91.951011130447.5797a-100000@larry>

hey lori,
how's it going.things at the athletic department have been very busy.
we started our season last week so my life has become crazy.
i'm sad that the girls wont be playing for a long time but can understand
that they need a long rest.
emily was over my house the other day and i told her how wonderful the
new album was,i told her that all of her fans loved it.although she is'nt
crazy about the inter-net,because of the rumors that are spread around.
anyway if your ever in the p.e. center come by and say hello.
deb
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:36:04 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      the collective unconscious (nigc!!!!!)

>meanwhile i have two questions about this crazy debate.

why is it a "crazy" debate?

>1. like (someone) said, only they were kidding, but seriously--what is
>the difference between using braves or indians and using vikings,
>trojans, whatever?

people usually feel some need to have their rights protected when these
rights have historically been attacked.  when people identify with a
subculture which has been systematically undermined, they may feel a wee
bit more sensitive to seeing it exploited by the dominant culture which
undermined it to begin with.  it's the same reason why gay people feel the
need to have their "special" (read civil) rights written in stone whereas
these rights don't have to be guaranteed to straight people or people
with blue eyes or to people with offensive political positions...in the
same explicit way...because people are not likely to lose their jobs simply
because they're straight or have blue eyes or are politically backward...

in short (if that is still possible), if a particular socio-economic group
seems to have a heightened sensitivity to exploitation there is usually a
very good reason for it...like that the group has had a long history of
being exploited...and has suffered materially and spiritually because of it.

>of it..this could get stretched into some crazy extreme. like, arizona
>state is the sun devils. and there was actually debate for a while about
>how this offended religious sensibilities. uggghhhhhh!!! i just have to
>shake my head here--of all the crazy things to worry about.  i remember

how about a team called the christ-killers or the raging papists :)

l. shampine
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:53:06 +0000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
comments:     authenticated sender is <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
from:         "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>
subject:      what to call an ig fan?

i'm sure i'll get flamed bigtime for this one, but it's too good to
pass up:

ig fans are indi-ho's.

with tongue firmly in cheek,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    james w.
     jwilker@third-wave.com
        caringosity killed the kerouac cat-
        sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 21:19:57 +0100
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              mts5@aber.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew joseph smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: what to call an ig fan?
x-to:         "james w." <jwilker@srvr.third-wave.com>

>i'm sure i'll get flamed bigtime for this one, but it's too good to
>pass up:
>
>ig fans are indi-ho's.

er ... you've lost me here.   why?

my vote's with "chicken people".   i like that.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

>
>with tongue firmly in cheek,
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    james w.
>     jwilker@third-wave.com
>        caringosity killed the kerouac cat-
>        sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 16:30:14 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sara lubitz <sel12@cornell.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sara lubitz <sel12@cornell.edu>
subject:      unsubscribe
x-to:         mts5@aber.ac.uk

pleas take me off the list
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 16:33:45 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              shampine@ll.mit.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         shampine@ll.mit.edu
subject:      ig fans

>my vote's with "chicken people".   i like that.

or...we are "fortunate ones" a la superfan joe hamilton.
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 16:18:48 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart on the baseball diamond
in-reply-to:  message of fri, 20 oct 1995 11:24:40 -0700 from
              <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>

linda said
>1. like (someone) said, only they were kidding, but seriously--what is
>the difference between using braves or indians and using vikings,
>trojans, whatever?

well...if you use trojans you're less likely to get an std, or
pregnant
(i couldn't resist;))

anna    whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu
(who's never had to use these types of devices)
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 16:54:29 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      quote id (nigc)

i have posted on my wall a sticker that says
        "a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle."

a friend came into my room and asked me where this quote was from -- i only know of the u2 song, "tryin' to throw your arms around the world," and i was wondering if the quote goes back farther than u2.

does anyone know the history behind this quote?
thanks for the help.
alycia
'cause the trouble in my head
is getting closer to my legs
i've got to walk it out
and the trouble with my heart
is that i can't take it out
and the trouble with myself
is that i don't know me
so if you find me
would you kindly show me
the way home                                      - melissa ferrick
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 18:10:08 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
organization: the american university
subject:      re: quote id (nigc)
x-to:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  message of fri, 20 oct 1995 16:54:29 -0500 from <anb038@nwu.edu>

alycia,

i've heard that quote before, too, and it wasn't in a u2 song.  unfortunately
i don't remember where i've heard it, but what a great quote it is!
                                                                   jen
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 15:32:56 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: quote id (nigc)

you wrote:
>
>i have posted on my wall a sticker that says
>        "a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle."
>
>a friend came into my room and asked me where this quote was from -- i
only know of the u2 song, "tryin' to throw your arms around the world,"
and i was wondering if the quote goes back farther than u2.
>
>does anyone know the history behind this quote?

............i believe it is a quote of something gloria stienam said
once...
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 18:56:25 gmt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              wingstar@mulberry.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat stark <wingstar@mulberry.com>
subject:      re: guitar question

>you can use vcr's audio tracks to record audio just like anything else,
>but i've never heard of more than 2 tracks being done... there's no
>reason it couldn't with a special deck, but with a normal vcr, i don't
>think so. aren't 8-track dat's done on vhs tapes? i had just heard that.
>maybe not.

i was in a music store today that specialized in recording equipment and
there is  a vhs taping device.  they don't use a standard vhs tape but
something similar just better quality. i think he called it an svhs.  the
machine is called a digital multitrac recording system.  they only record
audio not video and he claims they are clearer than a cd.

my own opinion, i think i stick to a dat.  but what do i know? :)

pat
wingstar@mulberry.com

                "adding up the total of a love that's true
                   multiply life by the power of two"
                               es

                  "nobody gets a life time rehersal
                  as specks of dust we're universal"
                               es
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 19:16:33 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              joeearls@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joe earls <joeearls@aol.com>
subject:      re: (nigc) ani in berkeley

i don't know about the berkeley shows. jaynescsu and i saw her in new haven
ct......the first twenty minutes were brilliant: she's very high energy and
her lyrics are more like emily dickinson than emily saleirs....at least in
their quickness of thought....she may be the fastest person on her feet, and
lyrically, i've ever read. the rest of the show suffered because she lost
control of the crowd-- shouting out and her responding a lot....and he
instrumentation is not diverse...

she's a fine singer and an  usually brilliant and charismatic person. a cut
above, for sure. try her once:

j earls
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 19:23:39 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: offensive things
x-to:         amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
in-reply-to:  your message of thu, 19 oct 1995 16:42:41 -0400

where can i get that t-shirt?


let it grow

bert
=========================================================================
date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 19:33:30 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              karen marie leblanc <carino@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         karen marie leblanc <carino@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc
x-to:         jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.951018230326.19642a-100000@jade.saintmarys.edu>

on thu, 19 oct 1995, jones wrote:

> did anyone happen to see party of five tonight?  there was a song they
> were playing on there during the last 5 minutes of the show and i was
> wondering if anyone knew who it was singing and what the song is called.
> anyway, let me know via personal e-mail if you know what it is.  thanks.

hello carol
you probably have heard this already but i think the song you heard was
by jann arden.  it might have been "demolition love" which is off of her
new album, but i'm not sure.  it *was* her and it *was* off of her one
album, but i'm not completely certain which song it was.  that particular
cd happens to be pretty good, by the way.  she's got such a strong
voice--you might have heard her most popular song on the radio, "could i
be your girl?" which has the following chorus: "and i am ashes, i am
jesus, i am precious--could i be your girl??"  anyway just thought you
might somehow know who i was talking about.  she's great, though--try out
her cd.

c ya
karen
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 19:42:36 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: offensive things
x-to:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
in-reply-to:  <cmm-ru.1.5.814231419.indigboy@er5.rutgers.edu>

on fri, 20 oct 1995, bertin lefkovic wrote:

> where can i get that t-shirt?
>
> let it grow
>
> bert


bert, on behalf of those who are curious, let what grow?  :)
margaret
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 20:59:47 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              danielle zacks <dz002d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         danielle zacks <dz002d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
subject:      re: help
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951019070943.9181a-100000@crl.crl.com> from "amy
              j. putnam" at oct 19, 95 07:18:26 am

i need to get off this indigo girls line ,do you know how to un-subscribe?
if you know please reply, thanks
dz002d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
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date:         sat, 21 oct 1995 10:12:57 +1000
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              janet mckay <j.mckay@qcm.gu.edu.au>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         janet mckay <j.mckay@qcm.gu.edu.au>
subject:      **curfews in brisbane**
in-reply-to:  <199510190401.aaa23097@netspace.org>

yay, yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

hey, all! rocking horse rcords have curfews!!!!!! yayyyyyyyyyyyyy!
it's $48, and there were only two on the shelves, so be quick!...but you
gotta save one for me, coz i won't have enough money until wednesay...be
nice, please!!!

watershed wasn't there, but i might ask them about getting that in when i
get the cd.

yayyyyy!!!! this has just made my day (thanx michelle for checking it out
for me :)

see ya guys (only 2000 words to go on my thesis - should be out of the
way by monday, so then i can de-lurk and talk to you guys properly!!)

bye!
janet :)

ps had another...yes, *another* ig dream last week - will send details later!
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 21:52:19 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              pluce83394@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         paul lucente <pluce83394@aol.com>
subject:      re: appropriate sax

i have to agree with you rich.  in fact, the girls "first" album is forever
defined in my mind by night driving.  i used to listen to that album and that
album only when i would drive home from college on weekends (always at night)
when i was going to school in ct (i live in nj).

although, i gotta say, having seen the girls open for the dead in oregon in
'93 over 2 absolutely gorgeous days, there is definitely something to say
about listening to them during the day!

paul lucente
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 22:13:06 edt
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              bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      re: appropriate sax
x-to:         pluce83394@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of fri, 20 oct 1995 21:52:19 -0400

a question about the igs opening up for the grateful dead in oregon.  i
imagine that this was a stadium show.  how did they sound?  their style is
not really suited for 80,000 seat stadiums with huge explosive pa systems.
actually, imho, no music really is.  i have never seen a stadium or arena
concert that equalled the quality of a shed (outdoor ampitheatre) or theater
concert.  what do y'all think?


let it grow

bert
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date:         fri, 20 oct 1995 23:25:22 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              jennifer weisman <jweisman@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer weisman <jweisman@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
subject:      ig sheet music

hi...

i've been hanging on very quietly on the list for about a year and i
periodically surface to ask questions or info. like everyone else i am
thrilled about 12cc and can't wait to get my copy of watershed. i know
that ig songbooks are available for purchase and have seen them in
various stores. my question concerns the key they're written in. here's
why --  i played the flute for 8 years. after high school i stopped
played. now, 5 years later i have both the time and money to get my
flute fixed up and start playing again. i would very much like to learn
to play ig songs, i know that several would sound great on flute (even
perhaps with my rusty playing!). when i used to buy artists' songbooks
they were often for piano, which is written in the same key as flute.
obviously it makes much much more sense for these songbooks to be
written for guitar (i have retained that much musical sense!). i am
curious if anybody knows of any sheet music in the key of c. my
motivation to play would be much higher if i knew i could learn some of
their songs. i know it's kind of obscure but if anybody has any
suggestions they would be much appreciated. if i get desperate i may be
able to talk to some pe i know who might be able to transpose the music
for me but i would like to avoid that. thanks!

jennifer weisman
jweisman@lynx.neu.edu

curry college
residence life
milton, mass.


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