lifeblood: listlogs: 1995-10e


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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 00:45:29 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              sue steinike <steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sue steinike <steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      re: other musical faves
in-reply-to:  <199510280415.xaa22346@mace.cc.purdue.edu>; from "automatic
              digest processor" at oct 28, 95 12:00 am

ok, i'll bite too about non-ig favorites:

10,000 maniacs (natalie was here last wed. w/innocence mission; great show,
and my friends and i had 5th row seats :) )
peter gabriel
u2
pearl jam
enya
paul simon
sting
george winston (pianist, great study music)

hmmm...as someone else mentioned it depends on what mood i'm in.  i've been
liking the dave matthews band lately, james is pretty good, even classical
gets its turn in the cd changer: vivaldi, handel's messiah (i learned this
one in college, so i can even sing along!); my dad is a beethoven fan, so
i grew up liking a lot of classical stuff.

now for the next phase of the thread:  which groups do people...not
particularly care for?? (you all knew it would be coming!)   imo, hootie &
co. are getting pretty annoying, i could just about throw up every time
i hear seal's batman song - it sounds like circus/carny music in the intro.
i'm not too big into the hip-hop or country scene either.

have a good weekend everybody, and keep sharing your (non)favorites; i'm
sure we'll all find some new bands to try!

sue

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 13:46:55 est
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              phanihr <phanihr@inf.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         phanihr <phanihr@inf.com>
subject:      hi..

     hi gals..,

     how do i subscribe to your list.

     regards,

     phani

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 01:27:02 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      green ears and a ham
in-reply-to:  <199510280029.taa06908@roatan.ucs.indiana.edu>

on fri, 27 oct 1995, indiana university wrote:

> here is the thread list of mandy and jen.
>
> 1. micheal jackson (fess up, i know you all like him)

oooohhhhhh my! i really don't think so. i mean, really. <shudder>
the fact that the rest of your list was pretty groovy does *not* make up
for the depths to which you have offended me by implying there is
anything to "fess up" to that involves that particular 'artist.'

anyway...
for lorindigo ( i really want to steal this little naming device )...

it's quite simple actually. y'all have just danced around it. you see, if
someone new, inexperienced, whatever, is "wet behind the ears", emily is
looking behind her ears for the green because where there is water there
is fertility, growth, vegetation...green! i realized this as i was
reading, catching up on all the messages. so of course, when i got to the
sesame street grass bit, i just laughed and laughed. it's true! but not
just because sesame street is sending warped messages about "grass" ;) to
our youth...it makes sense. fertility. green.   :)

as for mold, well, maybe that's what bert meant when he said "let it grow."

of course, you always have little kids being told to make sure and wash
behind their ears. so, maybe emily is saying that instead of obeying, she
is checking for evidence that she resisted authority and did not wash
behind her ears. (why it is now green back there is quite another story,
and i will not be going down that road, thanks very much.)


linda, strong enough for a man but ph balanced for a woman

if you were accused of being an indigo girls fan would there be enough
evidence to convict you?

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 01:40:07 -0700
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              laura k smith <stripe1@primenet.com>
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from:         laura k smith <stripe1@primenet.com>
subject:      the band thread

i missed out on most of this but bands i could suggest would be:

syd straw (solo and w/ golden palominos)
geraldine fibbers (very cool if you dig violins and punk)
van morrison (he is the soul!)
pretty and twisted (johnette's new band)
electrafixion (only because i'm an old bunnymen freak)
sonic youth (including thurston moore solo)
dancehall crashers (mods + rockers)
of course, anything involving miss merchant...
springsteen
and
rem

all for different reasons.........

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 16:16:09 est
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              phanihr <phanihr@inf.com>
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subject:      hi....

     hi ,

     how do i subscribe to your list.

     cheers,
     phani

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 05:19:51 -0700
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: upcoming vld radio shows

you wrote:
>
>i was wondering if any of you atlanta people would be taping the vld
>shows that are going to be on 88.5, and well, that other station this
>month...i'd love to get copies, as i'm going down for their show end
>of the month...i am willing to trade, send tapes, beg, grovel,
>whatever it takes...

...........i'm gonna be taping it.  i will be glad to make a copy for
you, i've already promised one for somebody else...so why not, besides,
i love to spread vld all over the us and abroad... :)

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 05:24:32 -0700
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              laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: vld fan from california..

you wrote:
>
>hey, someone here on the list mailed me awhile back about really
liking viva
>la diva, i was at water@randomc.com  i responded, but just a day after
i
>responded i ended up getting this account.. water@mindspring.com
cna't get
>to my mail on my other account..   would like to keep up the mail with
you..
>i think your name was carrie?  i dunno.. write me here if you are
still on..
>my signature at the time was from venus dirge, by cooper seay.
thanks--

........i know who you are talking about, i'm the one who sent her her
vld tape.....i have to look up her address though....

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 11:19:53 -0400
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              julie and david van hemel <vanhemel@posh.internext.com>
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from:         julie and david van hemel <vanhemel@posh.internext.com>
subject:      disney special

would someone mind sending me or reposting the dates for the disney
special?  thanks.

julie


julie a. van hemel
vanhemel@posh.internext.com (home)
jvanheme@habaco.com (work) 8:30-5:30 est m-f

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 11:20:14 ewt
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              diamond university <jshields@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
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subject:      thread...

>1. micheal jackson (fess up,

i forgot about him.  he is great !
thanks for the reminder....=}

to those of you who don't think so...lighten up.

jennifer

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 12:34:45 -0400
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              "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
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from:         "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
subject:      re: ig and the national anthem
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951027080708.11536b-100000@crl.crl.com>

i'm sorry, but too war like?  that's sick.  guess what?  war happens.  it
will always happen.  hell, it's how we happened.  it is a pretty sad
excuse not to sing a song that is incredibly (for whatever "war-like")
meaningful to thousands of people.  phil

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 12:43:25 -0400
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              "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
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from:         "mr. might-have-been" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
subject:      re: you name it
x-to:         cory shull <cws8q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510271916.paa21261@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>

on fri, 27 oct 1995, cory shull wrote:

> i don't write much, so here's a bunch of topics:
>
> --- as for the list of groups a&e would like:  billy pilgrim has come up a
> few times and i am 100% positive they would love him.  someone mentioned kate
> bush...bonk!!!  not in a 100 years!  but nobody has mentioned todd snider.
> anybody listen to him?

        ok -- phil, the crusader to pretect all from misleading band
names has to strike.   billy pilgrim is a they (the name is from
vonnegut's sh 5).  andrew hyra & kristian
bush from atlanta, and a&e definately know of them as, well, emily sings
on their first album.

        be good everybody... phil

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 16:46:31 edt
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
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from:         "jennifer l. holt" <jh9882a@american.edu>
organization: the american university
subject:      re: (nigc)top 75 reasons why women shouldn't have the freedom of
              speech
x-to:         catherine paden <capaden@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
in-reply-to:  message of fri, 27 oct 1995 21:36:27 -0400 from
              <capaden@vaxsar.vassar.edu>

i'm printing this out and sending it to all my friends, so they don't forget
that there are still people out there who think like this.
i'm really curious where you found this list, and what you're going to do to
keep them from showing their faces around campus, much less getting a date with
a womyn! if guys at cornell think like this, and are stupid enough to write the
stuff down and leave their names attached as proof..............
jen

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 17:10:50 -0400
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              heather ann frame <frame1@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
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from:         heather ann frame <frame1@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
subject:      re: sign-off indigo-girls
in-reply-to:  <199510282052.qaa09050@netspace.org>

sign-off indigo-girls

heather ann frame
the george washington university
frame1@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 17:19:18 edt
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              "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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subject:      re: (nigc)top 75 reasons why women shouldn't have the freedom of
in-reply-to:  <01hwy75wbm7m000v30@vaxsar.vassar.edu>; from "catherine paden" at
              oct 27, 95 9:36 pm

hi folks,

  a little more nigc.

  i just read catherine's post and then jennifer's.  while that list
was truly vile, please don't stoop.  jennifer writes (paraphrase) that
she can't believe some one would wite that, then sign their name on
the bottom of it "as proof."  frankly neither can i and taking it
further, having a name attached to something (especially after so many
forwards) is not proof on the net--its too easy to forge something.
hold back on the mail bombing of these people whom may be innocent
bystanders.

  on the other hand, that post was a gross violation of internet
privillage by someone, probably at cornell.  if you'd like to do
something about it (like i'm sure most of us do), send a pleasantly
worded message to "postmaster@cornell.edu" asking that they look into
this and then attach the original document (uneditted).  let the
people at cornell handle the enforcement.  if it is those 4, i
guarentee they will lose their accounts.  if it isn't, that is the
only hope that the real culprit will be held responsible for his/her
actions.

                                -- chris


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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 19:23:40 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              guinione@aol.com
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from:         guinione@aol.com
subject:      current listeners/new thread

ok ... i'll join in ... my current (and somewhat permanent) cd's that are
getting my attention are (other than 1200c and all other ig stuff) :

1) commonbond
2) k.d. lang
3) melissa etheridge
4) alanis morissette
5) natalie merchant
6) mary chapin carpenter
7) ani difranco
8) 4 non blondes
9) annie lennox
10) hootie & the blowfish

hmmmm... well - yeah, that's what i've been listening to lately ... subject
to change at any time ....

to all of the fortunate chicken strangers ...

chris

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 18:29:58 edt
reply-to:     jon miner <jjminer@mailbag.com>
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from:         jon miner <jjminer@mailbag.com>
subject:      re: [fwd:  [fwd:  t-shirts]]
x-to:         rgcs1123@aol.com

on sat, 28 oct 95 17:37:09 edt you wrote:
>hi jon,
>could you please give those of us who sent you t-shirt orders an
>update on
>the status of the order and when to expect them?
>thanks,
>rena
>rgcs1123@aol.com

well, here it is:  i had a mail crash and lost a whole pile 'o' mail,
plus my mail got backed-up and i haven't been able to read all of the
backflow.  but, as for the shirts:  the printer didn't have enough of
the "organic" shirts so they had to special order them.  they just
came in a day ago.  why they didn't aleart me to this i don't know,
but anyway, they did a test-print on a shirt and had me ok it this
afternoon, so the rest will be printed on monday and shipped to me.
everyone will get their shirts.  don't worry.  oooh! one more thing.
anybody who ordered a small will have to have a medium, as small
shirts are not produced any more.   don't ask me why, but i'm sure if
i requested them it woudl cost more and take longer.  if this is a
problem for anybody, please mail me and i'll try to figure a solution.

                  -*jon*-

...  "death is but a doorway - time is but a window - i'll be back."
                -vigo the omnipotent.

if all the world is a stage....
        then the light at the end of the tunnel...

must be god's way of saying...
        "get off the stage!"


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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 20:02:18 -0400
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              gkemp@eng.clemson.edu
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from:         greg kemp <gkemp@eng.clemson.edu>
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subject:      re: (nigc)top 75 reasons....
in-reply-to:  <199510282119.raa10515@netspace.org> from "christopher m. becker"
              at oct 28, 95 05:19:18 pm

hey y'all,

i wanted to say "amen" to what chris posted, and add some words
of wisdom of my own.

>   i just read catherine's post and then jennifer's.  while that list
> was truly vile, please don't stoop.  jennifer writes (paraphrase) that
> she can't believe some one would wite that, then sign their name on
> the bottom of it "as proof."  frankly neither can i and taking it
> further, having a name attached to something (especially after so many
> forwards) is not proof on the net--its too easy to forge something.
> hold back on the mail bombing of these people whom may be innocent
> bystanders.

very true, and well said.  i should point out that mailbombing is also
an abuse and violation of internet privlidge, and my result in *you*
losing your account.  contacting the site postmaster is the best response.

i can't speak for anyone else here, but this account is my office,
workshop, and laboratory.  i work here, and i absolutely *can* *not*
afford to risk mailbombing someone.

final thought for this evening: does anyone else think it's sad that
someone has enough free time on their hands that they can sit around
and think up this list?  or have i been working too hard lately?

off to search for sleep, beer, and the secret meaning of life,

--

greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
"would you trade your words for freedom?"

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date:         sat, 28 oct 1995 19:46:57 -0500
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@uiuc.edu>
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from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: new thread
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.951027011206.14200c-100000@es2>

had to join in...

shawn colvin       tom petty               disappear fear
wendy bucklew      nanci griffith          the chieftains
bob dylan          cranberries             lowest of the low
runrig             capercaille             cheryl wheeler
joni mitchell      tracy chapman           suzanne vega
band de soleil
vicky pratt keating-saw her live last week--go if you get the chance.
mary chapin carpenter-saw her last night--excellent, but she didn't play
my favourite song--this shirt :(

shall i stop yet???
did that get just a *little out of hand??
begging your pardon if you reckon it did...

rebecca.
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date:         fri, 27 oct 1995 09:49:37 cst
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              u_posa@venus.twu.edu
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from:         monique posa <u_posa@venus.twu.edu>
subject:      re: new thread

greetings all!

i just had to take myself out of lurk mode for this thread!

my faves are as follows:

brave combo
little jack melody and his young turks
sara hickman
trout fishing in america
bogey
the roches
10,000 maniacs
rem
mary chapin carpenter
sarah mclachlan

and others too numerous to mention...

well, back to lurking.

monique p.

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date:         sun, 29 oct 1995 01:37:43 -0400
reply-to:     indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,
              catherine paden <capaden@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
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from:         catherine paden <capaden@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
subject:      re: (nigc)top 75 reasons....
x-to:         gkemp@eng.clemson.edu

just so everyone knows...the four guys whoe names are attached to the
e-mail did actually write it! i know this because i was the first person to
receive the forwarded e-mail from cornell. additionally, if you send them
back the e-mail, one of them has a prepared response which he sends out in
defense of his list.  it basically says that everyone should have a better
sense of humor. he sent that response to me and to a friend of mine at
vassar who sent the e-mail back to him.  do what you want, but i wanted
people to know that i did not send the e-mail out to the list before i
verified who sent it.  i am perfectly aware of the abuses and
falsifications which could occur through e-mail.

thanks,
catherine

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date:         sun, 29 oct 1995 03:48:23 est
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              mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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first of all, thanks to all of you who posted votes on what ig fans
should name themselves.  based on the suggestion list i posted, the
overwhelming favorite was:  intimate strangers!!!!!

recently, someone posted the suggestion indigs as a name for us ig
fans.  so please vote one more time, should it be intimate strangers
or indigs?  either post a vote here or e-mail me privately.

the list of my favorite artists (in no particular order):

dave alvin
bruce springsteen
john cougar mellencamp
tracy chapman
10,000 maniacs/natalie merchant
prince
go-go's
blondie
tina turner
david bowie


rodney wicker
rucr57a@prodigy.com

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this is just a reminder for anyone in the bay area, that sunday the 29th
is indigo girl day on kfog 104.5fm, (and some where between 95-98fm in
the south bay). they will be playing ig all day and should have some good
stuff. a few days ago it was shawn colvin day and they aired a 2 hour
live show from s.f. so listen in...........

peace,
derek

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subject:      name

cast my vote for intimate strangers!

mo

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subject:      this whole name thing...

amy doesn't exactly like the intimate strangers in the song reunion.

just a little food for thought...

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subject:      this'n that

o, dudes,
    awake now, and trying for days to resist, i'm knuckling under and,
in lue (sp?) of praising god
this sunday morning, posting to the list.  just to spool a few
threads...

mouths and bitches - very bad.  bad, bad dog (shaking finger) but,
why have i found myself
chuckling at some of these?  am i so apathetic about the casual
mistreatment of women in
society that i can't even become incensed at the airing of such dark
tones?  i think i find it more
scary than anything, and we've learned (i thought) not to cover our
fears with anger.  sure it's
sappy, but who was it who said "blah, blah, blah/ cliche, cliche,
cliche... shine my life like a light...
blah, blah, blah"   (<--- only joking  :-))  )    now, am i going to
have to rustle out my list of "dumb
men" jokes?  i think not.   oh yeah, i think i'm really more offended
by the overwhelming
acceptance of hooters than i am by this post.

non-ig artists - a coarse thread, but let me add francis dunnery.  i
didn't see his name
anywhere and i think, perhaps, there's something slightly igesque
about him.  for public radio-
heads, he'll be here in town for mountain stage nov 5th  with jane
siberry.  gawd! i hope i'm
not on call...

um, what else...

oh,  names - in my java hopped-up hippster slang i've always liked
indignomes.  it has that
deep, rooted hue to it, but i was surprised to find some verically
challenged people who were
actually offended by this so i've dropped it.
    my friend calls us calico heads, 'cause the last time they played
in town we pulled into the
parking garage and the leetle 'ole lady at the booth with her forest
green polyester suite was
squawking into her oversized walkie-talkie  " yeah, mumble, mumble...
bunch of
weirdos...mumble, mumble... somethin' called the calico kids are in
town for a show... mumble,
mumble... just be careful"   :-0     :-)      :-0
     but, i really think you know you are
and know you'll always be
from the beginning
when you were even just learning to breath
before you could scream
even in the womb
you know you've always been an

    igdigger   and that's groovey, babe

<chortle>
she's all gone
remember                                    peace
                       maureen

oh, and remember  "its a thin line between feeling yourself and
feeling.... somebody else!"
( who said that... rodney?)

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              just call me norma ray <afiegle@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu>
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intimate strangers over indigs any day. =)

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subject:      many, many nigc things...

greetings from a tired and stressed neilyperson...

the 75 reasons thing...
was a joke. can noone see that?? even americans have _some_ irony, right??
it's like the ten reasons a beer is better than a woman, and ten reasons a
cucumber is better than a man...
i tell the odd sexist joke, but sheesh, i don't mean it, i only do it to wind
whoever i tell it to up...i guess it worked...
i don't think these people would suffer for those beliefs...

not that it belongs on this list anyway (in my humble and hypocritial opinion)


names. indigs. is probably the only one soffar that communicates remotely the
same thing as deadheads. like, 'hey, i'm an intimate stranger' is more likely
to get me thwapped then 'hey, i'm a girlie' but even so...most suggestions
have no, zero, and zip meaning to the world out there who haven't got a clue on
all the little indigo girl in-jokes...

like, there are even *gasp* people out there who have never (no, not ever) even
_heard_ of the indigo girls. fancy that...


other bands. how many people have looked at someone's list and gone and bought
an album?? umm...not me...
eden burning
jellyfish
fairground attraction
(why am i doing this, noone's going to take notice...i'm surprised you're even
reading this far...)
kermit
the beatles
michael bolton (an exiting, new talent, destined to be a megastar...)
lumpy trousers (my band, playing to an audience of three men and a dog sometime
soon near you...)
that woman who sang first time, from the coke advert\
robin beck, that was her name...
frank sinatra
dykes r us (even though they don't sound anything like the indigo girls, but
hey, what has musical styles got to do with this anyway...)

oh, and any dripping sarcasm after the first three (no, four) up there is
unintentional and purely accidental. no loss or damage howsoever caused....


new no indigo girl content subject title alert!!!

if i were an indigo girl, i would not...

go to see atlanta braves, 'cause it's derogatory to the city of atlanta.
eat cherry garcia ice-cream 'cause he's dead now, and dead people taste funny.
umm...sing anything bad. not ever.


there now follows an overlong signature. which, incidentally, is the subject
of the only new mail i had that i was interested in.

ironic, isn't it??

@}--,--'---

(with apologies for my bad mood, bad english humour, and for not offering my
chocolates around...)

  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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and more to the point will they be singing at the atlanta olympics next year?

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk


>hi y'all-
>
>just a question:  how come the girls aren't singing the national anthem at a
>world series game in atlanta (i assume they're not, since i haven't heard
>anything about it)?  seems like a great opportunity for atlanta.....
>
>--------------------------
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>lockheed martin energy systems
>bldg. 9102-1  rm 23  ms 8038
>oak ridge,  tn  37831-8038
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>this thread made me think of another thread, how about dj's descriptions
>of the ig's?

well, i don't think this is really what you had in mind, but i last winter i
heard a dj talking about them after he had just been to the dec 3rd concert in
philadelphia. what he said was something to the effect of: "if you've never
seen them, do yourself a favor and _go_see_them_. man those two can sing!"

it was nice to hear such an exceptionally intelligent dj.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

iwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplac
w                                                                           e
i lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that    n
l lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.                                  t
l lehigh university                                                         i
n bethlehem, pa                                                             w
o                        "a ghost of comfort, angel's breath to keep this   i
t                         life inside my chest." -a.r.                      l
b                                                                           l
e      "a thousand guitar strings - amy ; two guitar strings - emily        n
c                                                                           o
omplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnotbecomplacentiwillnot

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subject:      cover me grey

received my copy of cmg ... no comment ...

but i'm curious to where house at pooh corner came from .. listed as shades -
not ...

still listening ... or trying ...

chris

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never- 100% indigs!

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subject:      re: sigma guitars - nigc
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rob sticka wrote:

>someone mentioned sigma as a martin guitar.  it's true that martin markets=
this
>line of guitars but i think these are built in japan or korea.  i've played
only
>one and it sounded great to me (check out "crazy game" from indicated ii -=
that
>was a sigma guitar!).
>

yes, and uncle tupelo use them on their songs "slate" and "steal the crumbs"
off anodyne.   and the songs are no worse off!

>i figure if martin stands behind it, it's probably a good guitar for the=
money.
>
>for beginners, be prepared to spend $200-$300 for a decent beginner's=
guitar.
>if you buy a cheapo guitar, you'll soon regret it (i'm speaking from
>experience!).  guitar necks can warp and a guitar out of tune will wreak=
havoc
>with your sanity.  there is a tremendous amount of tension on the neck of a
>guitar and, over time, can warp it.  cheap guitars can sound fine at first=
but
>may suck after 1-2 years.
>
definitely.   my mum and i have both got "ozark" guitars which cost less
than =a3100.   it's not a warped neck that's the problem with either, but
cheap parts (especially tuning knobs).   it sounded fine to me at first but
i didn't have any other experience of actually playing one.   since i've got
my new guitar i haven't touched the old one.   it's a piece of crap.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

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shawn colvin day?   please!!!   she only got 3 albums out (4 if you count
the indie one live in 88).   that's about 3 hours of music!!!   where did
they get the rest from?   even indigo girls day is pushing it a bit.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk


>this is just a reminder for anyone in the bay area, that sunday the 29th
>is indigo girl day on kfog 104.5fm, (and some where between 95-98fm in
>the south bay). they will be playing ig all day and should have some good
>stuff. a few days ago it was shawn colvin day and they aired a 2 hour
>live show from s.f. so listen in...........
>
>peace,
>derek
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>
>like, there are even *gasp* people out there who have never (no, not ever) even
>_heard_ of the indigo girls. fancy that...
>
yes, indeed.   about 55 million in this country in fact.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

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subject:      nigc:  canadian radio interview

hey, any canadians out there?   did they hear that radio interview with the
queen of england (and scotland, wales, n.i.) on ckoi fm?   what did you
think of it?   over here it was a crisis!!!

mat
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i'm fairly new to this mailing list so i'm haven't really figured out this whole
name debate yet.  why exactly do we need a name to "bind" us?  isn't out ig
adoration enough?  well, please clue me in cuz i'm curious.

avital

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subject:      re: top ten reasons why amy is the best
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on tue, 24 oct 1995, alycia wrote:

> i have to provide a rebuttal to the "emily" list.  i'm partial to amy, what can i say?
>
> 10.  green lantern t-shirt.
>  9.  her taste in music.
>  8.  she loves to mountain bike.
>  7.  the one legged stance and eyes closed performance stance.
>  6.  daemon records.
>  5.  she was not afraid to cut her hair.
>  4.  long electric guitar solos.
>  3.  she's an alto -- the voice is the key.
>  2.  holds the record for breaking guitar strings.
>  1.  chickenman.
>
> 'cause the trouble in my head
> is getting closer to my legs
> i've got to walk it out
> and the trouble with my heart
> is that i can't take it out
> and the trouble with myself
> is that i don't know me
> so if you find me
> would you kindly show me
> the way home                                      - melissa ferrick
>


exactly. i have always been rather partial to amy myself. and a melissa
ferrick quote to boot...wow....

amanda

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>
> i'm fairly new to this mailing list so i'm haven't really figured out this
> whole name debate yet.  why exactly do we need a name to "bind" us?  isn't
> our ig adoration enough?  well, please clue me in cuz i'm curious.
>
> avital

out of the mouths of newbies....

welcome to the list avital =)

                                -- chris (who would go with indig
                                          if he had to)

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subject:      the big name debate

never can we call ourselves iggies because of the cartoon strip iggy.  too much
the same, i say.  it just sort-of ruins it, doesn't it?  i like to consider
myself an indigo girl. so perhaps i don't need a name.  i think i may be
disillusioned.

caio
-heather
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subject:      complicated girls

hello all...
i finally got cg today (after a three hour search!) and i have to say that
i'm not as excited as i was about hou.  with the exception of the the song
titles :), there's nothing much to it.  now, don't get me wrong, the songs
are great, but hou had melissa and american tune, etc.  non-ablbum stuff!  oh
well.  that's not stopping me from playing it to death.  my question
is...before tried (or try, in this case) to be true, someone in the audience
shouts out what i assume to be a request, and amy says "we'll get to it" or
something to that effect.  can anyone tell me what the request is?  just
wondering.  also, i already posted my muscical faves, but i must add joni
mitchell, springsteen and bob dylan.  they are true musicians who cannot be
mentioned enough...
stephen

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subject:      okay, catch me up guys...

hey everybody!

i was on the old list for years, and just found this one last week...i
can't believe it took me this long to find you!!!

but, all that aside, what's all this talk about hou and complicated girls
(in fact, i missed the second indicated....yeah, it's been a while)?
i can gamble that the girls released "complicated girls" (or was it an
indepen ent source???).  but what in the hell is this hou.....i thought
about it and can't figure it out---but hey!!  i'm usually dense with
those kinds of things...
:)
ohh, and does anybody know where jen kim is hiding.....she was a bud of
mine from the old list, and i lost track of her when i graduated from
college.  any info would be grand...

and i saw the london gig on disney.....so that's you neily out there???
i always pictured you as having red hair and freckles!!!!

:)


well, enough jabber.  thanks for getting a list back together, whoever
you are....

emily
:)!

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please excuse my ignorance. what is hou.
thanks.

amanda

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hou = history of us

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subject:      musical preferences

thought i'd add my two cents without being repetitive.  has anyone out there
heard of or listened to october project.  they've managed to stay pretty low
key in this area.  if you're looking for amazing vocalists, here you go.

avital

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subject:      previous auction

i got my green signed so vinyl!!!  yea!!!  totally worth the weight (not
that it will ever actually get played - it's too precious for that).
anyway, this question has already been posed (thanks for the response and
info about j.b., lorinda) but does anyone know who "kev" is?
thanks to everyone who wrote to me with advice on getting my vinyl -
turned out that the guy had gone on vacation!
jenn (who has found out that patience *is* a virtue - one she should have)
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu

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subject:      re: i'd like to propose a new thread

okay, here's my contribution:

annie lennox
sixpence none the richer
sally rogers
cranberries
lisa loeb
margaret becker
steve taylor
string bazaar <--(this is a group only known to a few people on
                          my campus.  they have recorded four songs,
                          and are no longer together because most of the
                          members are now out of the country.)

that's my $0.02.

anna

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subject:      re: many, many nigc things...
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apologies to anyone who doesn't want to hear about anything non-ig related, i
just feel it's important to say this: i hope that anyone reading that 75 reason
s list stopped laughing when they mentioned rape.  i fail to see how that could
be funny.
jen

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okay, i hate to jump on the bandwagon, but who can resist tauting their
own favorite bands/singers to a group of people with such fine taste in
music (i mean, we all like the indigo girls, right?)

i don't think anyone has mentioned the roches, cheryl wheeler, nanci
griffith, tanita tikiram, eleanor mcevoy
1. the roches
2. cheryl wheeler
3. nanci griffith
4. tanita tikiram
5. eleanor mcevoy
6. aimee mann
7. kathy mattea
8. joan armatrading (the woman is a goddess)
9. the eurythmics
10.rem

however, these people are (sort of) secondary favorites to some of the
others that have already been named: melissa etheridge, melissa ferrick,
k.d.lang, ani difranco, tracy chapman, kristen hall, sinead o'connor,
tori amos, etc. but i hate to be redundant.

also, glad to know there's another nields fan out there (besides you,
parker, that is).

"the mainstream is so polluted with lies,
once you are wet it's so hard to get dry.
we are all taught how to justify
history as it passes by." ani difranco

amanda

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what abou tincluding joan armatrading and her new cd??? to th elist of
musical others here??

        jamie suthard

                "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
                                        -- indigo girls

"a smooth, round stone...as small as the world, as large as alone."

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              m leff" at oct 29, 95 7:57 pm

> also, glad to know there's another nields fan out there (besides you,
> parker, that is).

*laugh* i used to run the www page before nieldsweb.  it's good to
know more of us are around.  you should come to the nields/df/daring
angels show in boston nov. 18th (i think).

                        take care,

                            chris


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what is this 75 reasons list that everyone is talking about?  from the
sounds of things, it's not too amusing (jokes about rape? don't even get
me started about how unfunny those are), but i'm still curious.

on sun, 29 oct 1995, jennifer l. holt wrote:

> apologies to anyone who doesn't want to hear about anything non-ig related, i
> just feel it's important to say this: i hope that anyone reading that 75 reason
> s list stopped laughing when they mentioned rape.  i fail to see how that could
> be funny.
> jen
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okay, so here is my list. of other bands..
1.viva la diva
2.gerard mchugh
3.shawn mullins
4.sonia tetlow
5.matthew kahler
6.ellen james society
(can't tell i live in atlanta, can you?)
7.mary fortune express
8.simon and garfunkel
9.jaime morton
10. dire straits

also, does anyone know anything about jaime morton?  she's boston based.. i
got her cd from the rhythmfest office, they just gave it to me.. and i
*loved* it..  i was just curious...

also-- after *finally* getting 1200 curfews i've decided i'm not an amy or
an emily person.... i like them both equally... they both have great
attributes..

the bugaboos will be playing at barnes and noble bookstore in atlanta at
10am on the 4th of nov ( buckhead), kalos at 4pm on 11t.h..

okey dokey.. bye all.
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subject:      indigo girls do tangled up in blue (fwd)

came across this in the bob dylan newsgroup.  pretty much sums up what i
think about tangled up in blue -- probably my favourite song on 1200cs...

rebecca
(whose sig. has mysteriously disappeared.  if anybody comes across it,
could you please send it home...)

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sat, 28 oct 1995 18:57:01 -0400
from: jennifer r. nathan <jenathan@aol.com>
newgroups: rec.music.dylan
subject: indigo girls do tangled up in blue

in a message dated 95-10-22 00:06:32 edt, you write:

>subject: tangled up live!!!!
>
>h man! have you all heard the indigo girls live version of tangled up in
>blue. it is beyond phenomenal. words can't express the power and the glory
>the
>girls put into this greatest of dylan songs.
>i'm not sure if it's on the new baez record, or their own new live album,
>something like 1200 somethings or something. find it, buy it and revel in
the
>greatest dylan cover since jimi.
>dube

hey,
i first heard it on the radio really early on a saturday morning.  i woke up
everyone within three miles of my house.  i had just discovered the indigo
girls about a week earlier, and wasn't sure if it was them.  when the dj said
it was i was screaming.  to make things even better, tangled is my favorite
dylan song.  when the indigo girls did it it was almost as good.  it is the
best, no words can describe it.  and the blues thing in the middle, wow!  i
saved my money and bought the album (12000 curfews).  the whole thing is
really good!  anyone who has not heard it yet, please do!  it's great
jen

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indifans ?

paulal.

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they're obviously not the only artists being played, they're just
featured, hence not 24 hours straight music. as a matter of fact they
were co-featured with the allman bros., and the dork dj played way more
ab than ig. it really sucked. but i don't think 24 hours straight would
be a bad thing anyway...


on sun, 29 oct 1995 mts5@aber.ac.uk wrote:

> shawn colvin day?   please!!!   she only got 3 albums out (4 if you count
> the indie one live in 88).   that's about 3 hours of music!!!   where did
> they get the rest from?   even indigo girls day is pushing it a bit.
>
> mat
> mts5@aber.ac.>
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hi y'all,

i'm just looking to be flamed here, but here goes. *deep breath* ...

i'm disappointed. i had really hoped that this thread would bring out a
diversity of tastes. i interviewed a&e, and asked them who their influences
were (ok, terrible question) and amy listed the clash and husker du. i
asked if she thought igs fans would be surprised, but she called my bluff
... she could tell (somehow) that i was an igs, clash _and_ husker du fan.
i now think the _rest_of_you_ would be surprised.

i haven't used any words like 'wimpy', or 'wet' yet, which i would defend
the igs against, but not a lot of the bands you've been listing. goodness
i'm digging a hole for myself. can someone just reassure me that i'm not
alone, please?

for the record, here are some of my other faves ...

wedding present (dave gedge is god ... maybe even above amy)
rem (all of it, especially 'murmur' and 'life's rich pageant')
10,000 maniacs (but not merchant's 'tiger lilly' ... ack)
billy bragg
tindersticks
neil young
bob dylan
molly half head
the hinnies

apologies to all, if you think i'm being harsh or unreasonable, and
specific apologies to the person who mentioned the golden palominos.

honestly, no offence meant, just my tuppence,

johnd

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subject:      re: okay, catch me up guys...

happy mondays :)

>
>and i saw the london gig on disney.....so that's you neily out there???
>i always pictured you as having red hair and freckles!!!!
>

red hair?? freckles??
that's my brother :):) 'tis true :)
he's cuter as well...

...

oh, and mat said something about 55 million people in england not having
heard of the indigo girls...

i was kinda thinking on a global scale...like africa. south america, most of
asia...

the indigo girls are not important. except on a personal level.
they are just a band. i think it's important to hold that thought...

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  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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hey :)

>i'm disappointed. i had really hoped that this thread would bring out a
>diversity of tastes. i interviewed a&e, and asked them who their influences
>were (ok, terrible question) and amy listed the clash and husker du. i
>asked if she thought igs fans would be surprised, but she called my bluff
>... she could tell (somehow) that i was an igs, clash _and_ husker du fan.
>i now think the _rest_of_you_ would be surprised.

i think the original question was along the lines of if i like the ig's,
who else will i like.

ok, so if i say i like buddy holly, the velvet underground, and roxette
(of each i have everything they released, plus many unreleased, as i do the
ig's, among many others...) that doesn't mean to say that just
because i like the indigo girls then everyone who likes the indigo girls
will like these.

but if i say i also like dissapear fear, fairground attraction, and the
williams brothers, who all have similar styles to the girls, then because
of this, people may want to investigate further.

similar to igs                          dissimilar to igs

dissapear fear                          beatles
fairground attraction                   buddy holly
tracy chapman                           velvet underground
tanita tikaram                          roxette
mary-chapin carpenter                   sex pistols
williams brothers                       jam
joni mitchel                            jellyfish
everly brothers                         deacon blue
carole king (kindasorta)                eden burning
pooka                                   the band

two different lists.

and there are only two kinds of music. music you like, and music you don't.

@}--,-'---


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  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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subject:      re: vote

my vote is for indigs.

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"they're just a band" philosophising!

hi y'all,

a few postings recently on 55 million in the uk never heard of igs,
something about asia etc, and they're just a band anyway.

i can't sing :(, can't read or write music :(, can only do basic strums
on a guitar:) you could say i'm musically challenged (ha, ha). when i've
just listened to a piece of music that really moves me, which has really
lifted my moods or whatever i'm convinced that to be the
singer/songwriter of such a piece must be one of the most meaningful
contributions anyone can make to anyone.

okay, to be able to extend someone's life through performing an
incredibley complicated surgical technique or finding a cure for cancer
may be pretty meaningful. but not if there's nothing in that "life
extension" which really moves you, if there's nothing worth living for.


what music (or other art form) has that emotional effect varies from
person to person. but everyone should be able to sample what's there.
i think it's sad that 55 million have never heard the igs in the uk cause
a fair few would be moved.


i need to hear some meaningful words well sung once in a while. it makes
me realise what life's all about. it may just be music, or just a band.
but other things are just politics, just wealth creation, just poverty,
just whatever...who's to say which is most important? not me.

enough of this waffle.

"better to have heard "ghost" and lost the cd, than never to have heard
it at all!"

adios,

gag the mixed up philosopher.

my votes for "indig". though i could start philosophising about the need
for a clique id/herding instinct/ fear of individuality etc.

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hey :)

>so i was thinkin'... wouldn't it be great if a&e were to appear as guests?
>what song would you want them to perform and with which characters?  (my
>copy of k.d. lang singing "i love trash" is one of my prized possessions :)

oh yes...yes...yes!!! :):)

halfway up the stairs. with robin (kermits nephew...)
maybe it would have to be something new and exciting, like, umm...i dunno...

something. _anything._

>
>i just wish jim henson were still around, dammit.  :(
>

*offers two minutes silence for a really, really good bloke*

@}--,-'---
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  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
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  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
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subject:      history of us bootleg

can someone please post the songs that are on this "history of us"
bootleg?


                                                thanks
                                                  kevin mitchell
                                                  kmitchel@cs.utk.edu

p.s.  does anyone have a discography (spelling?) of ig bootlegs, so
      i can see exactly what songs are on what bootlegs?

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subject:      ferron concert 10/28 - igc!

hi all - happy monday!

i was at a ferron concert on saturday night at the somerville theater in
lovely davis square (just down the street from my house :-)  - somerville is
a boston "suburb" for those of you unfamiliar with the area), and lo and
behold, the first song she and her band plays is "it won't take long" - the
song amy and emily covered on "spirit of '73."  and what does ferron scream
out as they're wrapping up the song but "i will not be complacent!!!"  there
were more than a few appreciative yells from the audience - i know it made
my evening.  the rest of the concert was fantastic - if you're at all into
amazing lyrics, ferron is someone to check out.  she almost reminds me of
the kind of person you would get if you combined amy and emily into one body :-)

and i'll make another plug for the nov. 18th concert at the somerville
theater with the nields and disappear fear - should be really wonderful.

joan

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subject:      http://ukw3s1.ggr.co.uk/

shopping advice!

hi y'all,

i'm over in the states in two weeks time. i want to pick up 1200 curfews
and watershed.

can i find watershed in any mainstream video shop or not? i've only got a
bit of spare time and cannot search for long!

any help much appreciated. if it makes any difference i'll be in the
ralaeigh durham/chapel hill area of north carolina.

adios

gag

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subject:      re: i'd like to propose a new thread

> i'm disappointed. i had really hoped that this thread would bring out a
> diversity of tastes.

i thought that this was supposed to be a list of groups or artists
that ig fans would like.  if you wanted diversity, i could list a few
others that i like that are very little like ig.  amy grant has been
my favorite since junior high, petra, wilson phillips, sierra, hokus
pick, audio adrenaline, newsboys, janet jackson (before she became
janet), lary norman, phil keggy, etc.  yup, most of these are
christian, but that's about all i listened to when i was growing up.

anna

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subject:      re: previous auction

i just received my green signed so vinyl and couldn't be
happier. if not for the auction, i wouldn't have known it existed.
thank you, julie meloni and hidden water, for making it
possible.

ps. yeah... who is "kev"?

-dave
ddavies@ford.com

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subject:      re[2]: tmf interpretation

          musical orgasm-- i like that!  hair?  never thought of it
          that way!   kimberly

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subject:      not enough girl talk

           anne just wrote that she would be leaving because there
          wasn't enough talk about the girls.  what???????  a little
          diversity never hurt anyone!  and besides, i think there is
          more than enough talk about ig to keep people interested!  i
          like hearing other things about the fans out there!  it
          makes me feel somehow closer to all of you!  am i alone?
                                         kimberly

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          my top 10 music list (besides the girls, of course!):

           10. sunset blvd. soundtrack
            9. ms. saigon  "
            8. pulp fiction "
            7. saturday night fever "
            6. toad the wet sprocket
            5. rem
            4. imortal beloved soundtrack
            3. mary chapin carpender
            2. bjork
            1. harry connick, jr.

               so, there's my list!  who else would like to share?
                                         kimberly

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subject:      re: not enough girl talk

>            anne just wrote that she would be leaving because there
>           wasn't enough talk about the girls.  what???????  a little
>           diversity never hurt anyone!  and besides, i think there is
>           more than enough talk about ig to keep people interested!  i
>           like hearing other things about the fans out there!  it
>           makes me feel somehow closer to all of you!  am i alone?
>                                          kimberly

in addition, there is only so much you can talk about when it comes
to people you don't know on a personal level.

anna

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subject:      nigc: any john lennon fans....

oopps, just realized that i sent a message to the list...when i was
trying to cancel the transaction. (sorry!)

anyways, since we were talking about artists we like besides ig...
thought i'd throw out that there's a new tribute album to john
lennon. it's called 'working class hero'....i don't have all of
the songs...but some of the artists are:

red hot chili peppers
blues traveler
mary chapin carpenter
george clinton
cheap trick

toad the wet sprocket
and many more...if you're a john lennon fan, i recommend it!

-sherry

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              ...imagine all the people,
                            living life in peace...

                                         john lennon

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subject:      re: question
x-to:         avital@cs.wisc.edu

>i'm fairly new to this mailing list so i'm haven't really figured out this
>whole
>name debate yet.  why exactly do we need a name to "bind" us?  isn't out ig
>adoration enough?  well, please clue me in cuz i'm curious.
>
>avital
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ya know i have been wondering the same thing!  for this reason i haven't
cast my vote.  it seems to me that there is such a diverse group of people
who subcribe to this list and that it would be impossible to please them
all with one single name.  even with a vote, you still will not get a
correct reply because people may not be able to or want to vote.


michelle

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x-to:         lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu

in response to your question..."back together again" is on the newly released
live album, 1200 curfews.  enjoy:) !

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subject:      re: many, many nigc things...
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>

>greetings from a tired and stressed neilyperson...
>
>the 75 reasons thing...
>was a joke. can noone see that?? even americans have _some_ irony, right??
>it's like the ten reasons a beer is better than a woman, and ten reasons a
>cucumber is better than a man...
>i tell the odd sexist joke, but sheesh, i don't mean it, i only do it to wind
>whoever i tell it to up...i guess it worked...
>i don't think these people would suffer for those beliefs...
>
>i for one did not see this as a joke.  i don't even think that the ten
>reasons a beer is better than a woman is funny, or the ten reasons why a
>cucumber is better than a man either.  this country is so full of people
>who don't respect each other and i am so sick of being complacent and
>watching this happen.  i was very sickened when i read this list.  i
>understand that the guys who wrote it meant it as a joke, but there are so
>many underlying message that can come out of their list.  if this list was
>read by the right people it could be very harmful for women.  i was
>talking about this with a friend last night and he said well ya know it's
>just like all of the list  that you women make about men!  but what he
>needs to remember is that woman have been suppressed for many years and we
>are over 50% of the human population.  furthermore the buggest underlying
>message from this list(and not really underlying for that matter) is the
>message that womem are only good for one thing sex!  this really sickens
>me and scares me.  because i see this kind of attitude every time i go
>into a bar.  guys will try and pick you up by telling you that you are so
>hot or that you are very attractive.  i never cease to remind them i have
>a brain and that there is way more to me than physical features.  granted
>i'm not saying that all guys are like this because i have met some that
>are not but i think that society as a whole give off this attitude about
>women and it is very sickening!


michelle

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subject:      re: misogyny (fwd)

here is the letter that the cornell guys send to people who reply about
that list:


scott r. learned
whitman college          or    1411 n. 24th st.
walla walla, wa 99362          boise, id 83702
(509) 527-5689                 (208) 345-4885
hello from walla walla!!!

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sat, 28 oct 1995 22:16:14 -0400
from: pat <phs8@cornell.edu>
subject: re: misogyny

i sincerely apologize for our list and as we have stated many times it was
meant to be taken in the light of humor, and it was only intended for the
reading of the people we sent it to.  who they forwarded it to was beyond
our control, we sent it to people, male and female, who know us know that
what we wrote was in humor.  i'm sorry it offended you and it was in very
bad taste,  i wish you could judge me by my actions and not my jokes.
i wish you could realize that the list is in no way representive of my, or
any of our true beliefs.  hindsight being 20/20 i wish we had never written
the list, but since we can not change the past, we can  only convey to you
our true apology.
        thank you for keeping an open mind....          patrick sicher

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in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.951029194602.20856a-100000@minerva>

ok i will temporarily de-lurk (unlurk? perhaps that could be a new thread
(: ) to add my name to the hundreds echoing the praises of:
melissa etheridge
the nields
ani
rem
tori amos
neil young
10000 maniacs/natalie merchant
paul simon/simon&garfunkel
pearl jam
sarah maclachlan
shawn colvin

i find it pretty interseting that we all seem to like a lot of the same
artists (allowing, of course for numerous individual variations).  i've
seen a lot of the same names several times.
parker
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subject:      re: history of us bootleg

the songs on history of us are as follows.  it's a great disc.  look for it!
1.  least complicated        acoustic duo in studio
2.  galileo                          recorded in oregon while opening
                                           for the dead
3.  joking                                      "
4.  welcome me                             "
5.  hammer and nail                      "
6.  virginia woolf                          "
7.  pushing the needle...                 "
8.  prince of darkness                    "
9.  chickenman (minus the stream of consciousness monologue)
10.  closer to fine                         "
11.  melissa (by the allman bros.)      live in denver
12.  land of canaan                             live in atlanta
13.  love of the common people                   "
14.  crazy game                                           "
15.  kid fears                                               "
16.  mona lisas and mad hatters (by king elton)    "
17.  american tune (by paul simon)              "

there you go.  i can't recommend this enough!
stephen
p.s.  i was going to hilight the post that this is in response to, but i
can't figure out how.  can anyone help?

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subject:      history of us disc

this is especially for those newer folks who are just learning
about this disc.

many of the copies that went out on the market have been defective.
i found a good one but many people were not so lukcky.  when you see it
or hear about a retailer selling it, see if you can listen to it
first.  if you cant, make sure they have a return policy or else
you *might* be stuck (there are some good ones out there) with a
bad disc.  maybe someone who ran into a bad copy can elaborate
on what to look for.  it's a standard case of buyer beware.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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              from "parker b. hamilton 99" at oct 30, 95 1:53 pm

hello!!

first message from me...just saying hi to all of these cool people who
love amy and emily!! :)

betsy

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on mon, 30 oct 1995, betsy lee wrote:

> hello!!
>
> first message from me...just saying hi to all of these cool people who
> love amy and emily!! :)
>
> betsy
>
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hey, betsy.

just writing to welcome you.  i'm new in here too.  isn't this a great
idea?!?!  i have loved the indigo girls ever since i first heard them.  i
love to listen to the words and try to figure out what they mean.  they
put so much thought into their lyrics.  it amazes me.  i would love to
sit in the room with them sometime and listen to them talk and write
songs.  that would be the most enlightening experience!

so long.

elizabeth

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date:         mon, 30 oct 1995 19:49:04 +0000
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              mts5@aber.ac.uk
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subject:      re: nigc: any john lennon fans....
x-to:         strangefire <mccranie@ewirb-wr.robins.af.mil>

in the british music paper the nme (new musical express) the album got zero
out of 10.   they said that the yoko ono tribute released a few years back
(including roseanne cash) was miles better, and that wch was all dull us
corporate rock.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

>oopps, just realized that i sent a message to the list...when i was
>trying to cancel the transaction. (sorry!)
>
>anyways, since we were talking about artists we like besides ig...
>thought i'd throw out that there's a new tribute album to john
>lennon. it's called 'working class hero'....i don't have all of
>the songs...but some of the artists are:
>
>red hot chili peppers
>blues traveler
>mary chapin carpenter
>george clinton
>cheap trick
>
>toad the wet sprocket
>and many more...if you're a john lennon fan, i recommend it!
>
>-sherry
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>              ...imagine all the people,
>                            living life in peace...
>
>                                         john lennon
>
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please remove me from the list.

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subject:      new lennon tribute

i presonalyl dont know how it stacks up against other lennon tribute
discs.  i bought it becuase mary chapin carpenter is on it.  her
version of "grow old with me" is very nice.  i dont know abotu
the rest of the disc...i havent listened to it yet.  this is also
a benefit disc....for the us humane society's program for
spaying and neutering cats and dogs.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
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subject:      re: i'd like to propose a new thread

hi folks,

tought i'd contribute too :)
suzanne vega (only three votes so far... i'm surprised at you guys)
melissa etheridge (her new album rocks.... go get it when it's released)
nanci griffith
james hall
kristen hall
sarah maclachlan
shawn colvin
mary chapin carpenter
aimee mann
caroline aiken
disappear fear


sharon
ps. i would rather be an intimate stranger than a girlie :)

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subject:      re: many, many nigc things...
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exactly. the intentions of the writers of that "75 reasons" list are
insignificant; the fact that it was misconstrued by even one person
illustrates its potential harmfulness. i'm not saying that we should
censor what we say for fear of offending others, but we should also
consider the deeper significance and ramifications oour "jokes" and keep
in mind that the things we say do not necessarily remain within the
circle of those who know us well enough to take them with a grain of
salt. if a similar list called "why whites are better than blacks" had
been circulated, would some of us still call it a joke, or is it only
because the list was about women that it is somehow light and funny? i
think its probably good that there are people out there who could take
this in stride and not let it anger them, but i an not do that myself,
regardless of context or intention.

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subject:      i love ig!!

i haven't yet found anyone who likes ig as much as i do.  i love to talk
about their music and i quote their songs all the time.  no one seems to
understand why i like them so much.  if you understand my obsession
please write me.

elizabeth

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subject:      what is hou explained

i'm reposting this msg i saved about the cd bootleg history of us since there
is so much current interest in it.  just be sure, if you buy, to listen to
*all* the tracks since a lot of the copies where damaged....:-)

from:           kristina cizas <kcizas@umich.edu>
subject:        new boot
date:           saturday, july  1, 1995 11:35:19 edt
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


sitting here listening to a *new* ig boot titled "history of us". our
sharp-eyed ex-listmeister spotted it this morning at a record show. it's
*nice*.

1 least complicated     (acoustic version, haven't seen it *anywhere* else)
2 galileo               (2-10 soundboard of dead show opener, oregon 1993)
3 joking
4 welcome me
5 hammer and a nail
6 virginia woolf
7 pushing the needle too far
8 prince of darkness
9 chickenman
10 closer to fine
11 melissa                      (from shades)
12 land of canaan               (tracks 12-17 from reverse one live)
13 love of the common people
14 crazy game
15 kid fears
16 mona lisas and mad hatters
17 american tune

front cover and some of the inner photos are taken from the galileo
video--pretty fuzzy. back cover is the religious-type photo from rolling
stone. it's a kts production.

we're a bit puzzled as to where they got the copy of the acoustic version
of least complicated... has it been released on any promos that any of
you know about?

great find. yeehaw!

off to scrape the house now.

kristina and stephen


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
kristina cizas                                               kcizas@umich.edu

"yet our lives are big. we may decide to become an engineer and end up a
poet." --natalie goldberg

"no matter how long it lasts, you only count the time where you're living
your true life, the one that feels best, the one where you're not kidding
yourself."  --david wilcox


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date:         mon, 30 oct 1995 16:16:00 est
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subject:      re: sigma guitars - nigc
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>someone mentioned sigma as a martin guitar.  it's true that martin markets this
>line of guitars but i think these are built in japan or korea.  i've played
only
>one and it sounded great to me (check out "crazy game" from indicated ii - that
>was a sigma guitar!).

>yes, rob...i mentioned them. although i didn't mention where they are
made...i believe you are right about japan or korea.

>i figure if martin stands behind it, it's probably a good guitar for the money.

>ditto..that's why i suggested it.

>for beginners, be prepared to spend $200-$300 for a decent beginner's guitar.
>if you buy a cheapo guitar, you'll soon regret it (i'm speaking from
>experience!).  guitar necks can warp and a guitar out of tune will wreak havoc
>with your sanity.

definitely!

-sheri
i never would have opened up
but you seemed so real to me
after all the bullshit i've heard
it's refreshing not to see
i don't have to pretend
she doesn't expect it from me
      -sarah mclachlan

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subject:      what to call us

if we were to give ourselves a name, i don't necessarily think that intimate
strangers is so good.  i mean, amy didn't really use the words in a positive
light.  i don't know, just my .02...        erica
"now i'm trying to get back, to what i know that i should be.  i'm hoping to
god i was just, a temporary absentee."gm

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=d8=da=ebzo=cc=d8bk=dfn=c8sr=d8qvz=f3[=b8g=3dcy

u=f7on sat, 28 oct 1995, laurie higgins wrote:
=aa=ba=be=ddl%o=f6=ec=e7=daqvg=e0/\<jr=c5ncl=e6oh=a6(=f4=fa=ees=b5=d6r=a1=
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b=fe2> you wrote:
> >
> >hey, someone here on the list mailed me awhile back about really
> liking viva
> >la diva, i was at water@randomc.com  i responded, but just a day after
> i
> >responded i ended up getting this account.. water@mindspring.com
> cna't get
> >to my mail on my other account..   would like to keep up the mail with
> you..
> >i think your name was carrie?  i dunno.. write me here if you are
> still on..
> >my signature at the time was from venus dirge, by cooper seay.
> thanks--
>=20
> ........i know who you are talking about, i'm the one who sent her her
> vld tape.....i have to look up her address though....
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organization: arkansas school for math & science

where is everybody?????????


-avigail

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subject:      ig in puerto rico!!

hello everybody!!

        while i was in puerto rico this weekend, my mouth dropped to the
floor when "bury my heart at..." came on the radio on a puerto rican
station!!!
        just thought you would like to know!!


                        christina
                        that guitar pic girl who has no more!

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subject:      hello from a new member

hi everyone!  i am new, and still figuring all this out
so be patient with me!  i was hoping to see more
concert info and talk about the ig.  quality talk
that is..in reading through all the other music lists
i was wondering when someone would bring up kristen hall!
e sings with her on many of her albums and she
started on daemon records...
also, are there any ig list fans out there from seattle
like me that know when they are coming back? i missed
jesus christ superstar.....
i look forward to chattin' with you.....

julie

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this is my first time on here, so be patient with us new comers. i was
wondering if anyone had any info on watershed, the new video from ig?

-----matt
  _^_                                                 _^_
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|   |                                               |   |
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|   |give me walking shoes, featherd arms, and a key|   |
|   |             to heavin's gate.                 |   |
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on mon, 30 oct 1995, julie parker wrote:

> hi everyone!  i am new, and still figuring all this out
> so be patient with me!  i was hoping to see more
> concert info and talk about the ig.  quality talk
> that is..in reading through all the other music lists
> i was wondering when someone would bring up kristen hall!
> e sings with her on many of her albums and she
> started on daemon records...
> also, are there any ig list fans out there from seattle
> like me that know when they are coming back? i missed
> jesus christ superstar.....
> i look forward to chattin' with you.....
>
> julie


hey there julie!

hmm, kristen hall---what a fabulous artist!!! i've seen her a couple of
times, and have all of her stuff...she's great!!!!!

about concert info....heck, i think they are taking some time off right
now....am i wrong????  :)

about talking about ig.....threads come and go...sometimes they get
incredibly intense, sometimes it's just a list of who everyone likes to
listen to (like right now...).  believe me, someone will ask a question,
be it simple or not, and it will turn into an all out discussion of ig,
and it seems to never go away!!  :)

speaking of questions, why in the hell don't they release "squeaky" onto
an album!!  i love that stinkin' song, in fact more than any other song
they have put out (well, i do get a kick out of "i don't know your
name"--hehheheh, what a riot!), and i would love to actually have a legit
recording!!!  humph!

:>

well, hope this answers your questions (it probably hasn't), and glad to
have you here!!

your truly-

emily
french horn player without a purpose!!!

(are there a lot of horn players on this list....i seem to notice that
most horn player i know love ig...just curious!)

:)!

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on mon, 30 oct 1995, matthew garrett wrote:

> this is my first time on here, so be patient with us new comers. i was
> wondering if anyone had any info on watershed, the new video from ig?
>
> -----matt

hey there matt...

hmm, most major music stores (that have videos) should have watershed.
try tower, suncoast videos (or something like that...the ones in the
malls), or if you don't mind waiting, go to your local video store and
have them order it...the product number is:

19v 49195

its an epic music video--music videos are easy to get (my parents owned
video stores and they could always get them...)  :>


hope this helps....

emily

:)!

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x-to:         "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
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erica,
that is so cool that you put that quote in your note!  i'm listening to
my new ig cd and right as i read that quote, they sang it on my stereo.
whoa!  must be fate.  i love that song.
elizabeth in oregon

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subject:      re: your mail
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avigail,
what do you mean, "where is everybody"?  i'm here.  do you want to talk
about ig?  if you do i'm the one to talk to because i can't talk about
them enough.
elizabeth in oregon

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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 11:05:10 +1100
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subject:      watershed in pal
x-cc:         michelle paddy <m.paddy@qut.edu.au>,
              sage lunsford & todd o'reilly <sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net>,
              damon harper <damon_harper@mindlink.bc.ca>

whoohoo!

got my copies of 1200c in the mail today (perry, i love you!  andrew,
the courier picked yours up already and it should be there by the time
you read this.  shelley, i'm going to express-post yours up there :).

but anyway.  i got my copy of 'watershed' too and i'm going to get it
converted to pal as soon as ever i can, so if there's anyone out there
who wants a copy, let me know.  (if i offered you a copy already, you'd
better kick me and remind me 'cos everything seems to have fallen out
of my brain these past few weeks...)

i'm a short, short-sighted, right handed, caffeine-addicted, australian
asian lesbian who doesn't really care about american baseball, or even
about american politics... so sue me.  teehee. :)

no longer explodapiq, but still spikyhaided (sage'n'damon so cute :),
sherlyn
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"well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you when you think everything's
        okay and everything's going right...
and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"

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subject:      re: ig in puerto rico!!
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that's so cool when i hear a ig song on the radio.  i can't believe you
heard it in puerto rico!  that's a pretty good song.
elizabeth

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do the girls have a video for bury my heart at wounded knee? if so where
can i find it? i am a new comer to the ever so cool world of ig (my good
friend john introduced me to their music last year and i was hooked). i
just bought jesus christ super star and it is the best. i also wanted to
know if ig are goint to tour any time soon.

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in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.951030111917.22280a-100000@crl.crl.com>

i got a bad disc, and the embarassing thing is that i listened to it
before i bought it.  i thought it was ok, but the last two songs have a
weird noise over them, a sort of crackle (well, not really, a pretty
indescribeable noise - help anyone?).  you can hear the songs, but it's
really annoying.

hope that helps,

rebecca.
(who really likes the ig version of mona lisas and madhatters all the
same)...
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subject:      me and rolling stone...

hey guys...
        i'm glad we got some sort of mention in rolling stone, but my
name seems to be the one quoted.  they singled me out for some reason
and i have to tell you all that i'm pissed.
        simple mistake though.  i've always read measurements from
waist/hip/chest.  i'm not much of a breast woman i guess.
        but for these fuckers to ask me if my subscription to
"playboy" has lapsed has really got me pissed.  i don't know if i'm
reading into it too much, but they really got the last word in by
taking out one simple line in my letter.  and i have to admit, i feel
like they belittled everything i argued by doing this.
        someone posted it, what it read in loveletters,
correspondence, and advice, or whatever the hell that section is.  if
anyone has the november 16th issue, please read the blue print and
tell me if i'm overreacting.  but here's my arguement:  i thought it
was a relevant issue to bring up (their lack of coverage of the
indigo girls) since the foo fighters issue was a prime example.
mention of the ben and jerry's newport folk festivalk in random notes
of that issue fails to even list ig even though the girls
headlined.  review of "spirit of '76" failed to mention ig's ferron
cover of "it won't take long".  the issue was just one example.
recall all the major ig articles in rolling stone since amy and emily
began....:one in '89.  and that's it.  period.  so in my opinion, i
(or any of the rest of us who wrote to rs), it wasn't so random.
        secondly, i cc'ed the letter to the rest of you, so some of
y'all got a chance to read it.  all i'm saying is that they made it
seem so irrelevant when i spent a great deal of the letter working on
backing up what i had to say, a greater notion that these guys are
about trends and not about music. i'll admit that i'm sometimes
floored by the issues they cover (gun control, for example), but
that's not what's sells the product. they look for commercial
viability cause that is what sells the magazine.  maybe it's just that
their customers like that, demand the product in the way it's
presented.  and if that's their end means, then fine...i mean, if i
was in that position, then i'd do the same.  but i wouldn't be toting
around this "gen x voice of my people since we're so cutting age"
attitude if all i wanted to do was sell the goddamned magazine.
        but part of me thinks that i'm barking up the wrong tree
because in all honesty, amy and emily on the front cover would not
sell more issues than say, silverchair.  it's the popularity thing
that we discussed last month, that argument that we should all count
our blessings that the indigo girls aren't larger than life because
all us fans have a certain bond, a secret language that no one else
understands. it's magical.  but then again, it's fuckin' disgusting
when they won't make a simple mention of indigo girls in random notes
but will put alycia silverstone on the cover with pink panties and a
cowboy hat.
        i don't plan on ever buying another rolling stone in my life,
but i'm beginning to realize that the thinggs i looked for in the
magazine don't exist and that it's no fault of their own.
i'm just going to respnd by saying that their news and my news are two
different tangents.  hell, i have interests of my own that ohter's might
consider stupid.  i read "parade" iin my sunday newspaper, for
christ's sakes.
        but i do still feel like they took a cheap shot by printing
what they did about my letter.  and that will be the major argument
on my part.  it was unnecessary.
        and you can bet that i'm going to be discussing amy ray and
emily saliers.  i can't speak on their part of for any of their fans
either.  but these girls work hard and have done a lot for political
causes and have really set a standard with how women musicians can
succeed in a man's business.  for rolling stone not to recognize this
at least this much is what really pisses me off.  some people don't
really dig their music and that's okay.  but courtney love doesn't
speak for all female musicians, or every artist period.  before pearl
jam vs. ticketmaster, their was the $10 tour.  and what other artist
has dedicated an entire tour towards one cause.  there are standards
these girls have set that are not recognized.
        i know it's a complex issue in general and it may come off
like i'm twisting and distorting the facts.  but if i'm not, then why
should emily and amy not be at least credited.  and if i am
distorting the facts, then tell me thjis much:  why didn't they get a
mention for headlining this year's newport folk festival.  how can
"swamp ophelia" debut at #9 the week it's released if the don't have
a market.
\      i'm really asking a favor of everyone who can
see where i'm coming from.  i'm asking y'all to help me respond back
to rolling stone.  if those of you don't agree with me, that's cool.
but if some of you do, i'd like to bombard their mail box again./
that's the only reason what we even got a mention, is because of the
sheer volume.  but i don't think rolling stone knows where we're
coming from, if in fact, there are those of you out there who know
what i mean.
        i just feel like the entire thing was a low blow.

peace,
teri

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              fiona sanderson <fionas@rmplc.co.uk>
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subject:      tangled up in blue theory

i cant wait to hear this song when i eventually get 1200 curfews.
ike other people who have posted recently to the list, its my favourite
dylan song, one of my favourites of all time in fact.

this is my theory: i think the chord structures in tangled are quite like
amy's: not to sat they're the same chords, but to me they have the same feel,
although i think many ig songs are amzingly great(of course), my enduring
favourites are probably blood and fire, chickenman and fugitive, - because
of the lyrics (esp fugitive), but also, and just as much, because the chords
do something deep to me. (i can play e interchanging with that great a chord
for minutes and minutes, and it always makes me feel better, 'centred' maybe?)

i wonder, are some people predisposed to certain chord structures/ tones
that produce an emotional/ physical effect? could it be that those of us who
rate tangled and also those amy songs would have a lot else in common, apart
from the music i mean? ... uh oh ...now it sounds like im leading to a new
thread, 10 other things you might like doing if you're an ig fan!!:)

just for the record, i'm taking up mountain biking, road running and
standing on one leg, thats as soon as my new tattoo stops smarting :) :)
fiona


there's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked
line...

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subject:      re: musical preferences

in a message dated 95-10-29 18:26:34 est, avital@cs.wisc.edu (avital livny)
writes:

>thought i'd add my two cents without being repetitive.  has anyone out there
>heard of or listened to october project.  they've managed to stay pretty low
>key in this area.  if you're looking for amazing vocalists, here you go.

yes! yes! yes!  october project's self-titled debut album is exceptional and
what an incredible voice she (mary, the lead singer) has!!!  i saw them play
at the great american music hall in san francisco last year and it is the
first time i have ever seen such a relatively unknown band receive a standing
ovation like they did!!!  btw they have a new cd out titled "falling farther
in" and for anyone in the bay area who is interested, they will be playing at
bimbo's in san francisco on november 9th!!  well worth checking out!!

-connie

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well, i just wanted to say hi and that i'm really looking forward to hearing
more about ig.  =)

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subject:      kristen hall

i've seen a lot of people mentioning kristen hall in their lists, and was
wondering what or (maybe) who she's like.
can anybody let me know?

(see something good is coming of those seemingly irrelevant lists...i'm getting
interested in music i might otherwise not have come across, and, were i the
betting kind, i'd wager other folks are too).

thanks,

rebecca.

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what are you interested in hearing about ig?  are you a big fan?  i know
i am.
elizabeth

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              "elizabeth young" at oct 30, 95 05:43:01 pm

>
> what are you interested in hearing about ig?  are you a big fan?  i know
> i am.
> elizabeth
>

        yes, i am a huge fan!  actually, they had a concert near me last may,
but i wasn't able to go.  i guess that's what cd's and cool groups like this
is for.

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subject:      re: kristen hall
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        kristen hall is sort of like a one-person, more acoustic version
of the igs. (sort of). i don't find her lyrics quite as passionate or
moving, but she's got nice rhythms and she's interesting enough that she
doesn't get boring. if you want to hear her, i think her best album is
"fact and fiction." of course, this is only my opinion. anyone who can
characterize her better than i, please do. it's late. i'm tired. :)

amanda

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subject:      re: i'd like to propose a new thread
x-to:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <v01510101acbaf83f3f14@[128.243.118.244]>

hey, sharon, how have you heard melissa's new album already??????
(please note jealousy dripping off the screen).

amanda

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subject:      re: i love ig!!

i, as well as many others on this list, understand 100% your obsession
and love and admiration and respect (shall i go on??) for the girls!

mandy
you are not alone...

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on mon, 30 oct 1995, just call me norma ray wrote:

> i, as well as many others on this list, understand 100% your obsession
> and love and admiration and respect (shall i go on??) for the girls!
>
> mandy
> you are not alone...
>
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mandy,

thanks so much for writing me.  it's great to know that the "power of
two" has had an affect on many people.

elizabeth

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the girl's rule. i love lesbian rock.

peace to all,
kristen

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i agree, kristen.  it's nice to have some groups which us girls can
relate to.  especially when they're as good as the indigo girls.  where
are you from?
elizabeth in oregon

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subject:      re: previous auction
x-to:         keller jennifer l <jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu>
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sorry for the late response, but i'm only now skimming my mail and i
havn't recieved my signed green so either.  i'm beginning to think my new
yorker instincts failed me on line, and we've been scammed!

liane

on thu, 26 oct 1995, keller jennifer l wrote:

> hello!  i have been taking tally of all the things i have ordered minus
> those which i have actually received (hence, the post about list shirts
> and this one).  i took part in an auction (i am fairly sure it was
> through hidden water, but i could be way wrong) a month or so ago.  the
> particular item i bought was a signed green so vinyl.  i remember that
> there were two other copies, along with other merchandise.  has anybody
> who participated in this auction received there stuff?  just wondering -
> thanks for the help!
> jenn
> jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu
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on tue, 31 oct 1995, fiona sanderson wrote:

> from the music i mean? ... uh oh ...now it sounds like im leading to a new
> thread, 10 other things you might like doing if you're an ig fan!!:)
> just for the record, i'm taking up mountain biking, road running and
> standing on one leg, thats as soon as my new tattoo stops smarting :) :)

hmmm.... in no particular order:
1) listening to ig, ig and more ig
2) talking about ig, to anyone who'll listen (and to people who won't :)
3) singing along to ig, loudly and without regard for public humiliation
4) trying to play ig songs on the instrument of your choice
5) quoting from igs songs at the least provocation

i'm not sure if that qualifies as 'other things' but anyways... :)
sherlyn
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count me in for  "indigs"

on sun, 29 oct 1995, mr rodney s wicker wrote:

> first of all, thanks to all of you who posted votes on what ig fans
> should name themselves.  based on the suggestion list i posted, the
> overwhelming favorite was:  intimate strangers!!!!!
>
> recently, someone posted the suggestion indigs as a name for us ig
> fans.  so please vote one more time, should it be intimate strangers
> or indigs?  either post a vote here or e-mail me privately.
>
> the list of my favorite artists (in no particular order):
>
> dave alvin
> bruce springsteen
> john cougar mellencamp
> tracy chapman
> 10,000 maniacs/natalie merchant
> prince
> go-go's
> blondie
> tina turner
> david bowie
>
>
> rodney wicker
> rucr57a@prodigy.com
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              liane fu <lianefu@soho.ios.com>
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sorry for jumping to conclusions auctioneer; i'm comforted by my email.

signed
crossing her fingers in new york

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              "teresa c. esguerra" at oct 30, 95 03:23:50 pm

hi everyone,
i don't know if this is just a european thing, but here (at least in
germany where i come from) "girlies" is connected to this naive girlie
look: plaits and childish clothes and stuff like that. i think this is a
rather unhappy connection to the indigo girls who are certainly far from
wanting to appear infantile... so i don't agree wiht this name for us
fans. (i can't come up with any breakthrough name myself, but i liked
the "intimate strangers" and "nomads" ideas.)

i've been listening to the igs for some years now, but hardly anybody in
germany seems to really know them. don't ask me why. if any of you has a
suggestion how we can change this...(don't hold me responsible for my
weird fellow country(wo)men..)

britta

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subject:      re: kristen hall

amanda said:
   kristen hall is sort of like a one-person, more acoustic version
>of the igs. (sort of). i don't find her lyrics quite as passionate or
>moving, but she's got nice rhythms and she's interesting enough that she
>doesn't get boring. if you want to hear her, i think her best album is
>"fact and fiction." of course, this is only my opinion. anyone who can
>characterize her better than i, please do. it's late. i'm tired. :)

its early.  i'm tired. so let _me_ try and characterize kristen hall as well
as you did. :-)  kristen hits your soft spot for emotional impact with her
reality based lyrics on love's lament.  sort of the velvet glove of acoustic
music.  if you like igs you'll probably love her stuff.  my favorite cd of
hers, is "be careful what you wish for...".  oh, and emily plays guitar and
sings harmony on one of the tracks, "following my compass".  i think kh is
seriously underrated and should be ranked much higher on the contemporary
acoustic scales.  and yet i still haven't conveyed the warmth and passion
you get from her music.  guess we'd better get someone who's up in the
middle of the day vs. early/late.  gave it a shot.
yours almost truly,

karen

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subject:      re: t:pwjqymv0n ^lw:{p3p-pw0wrre: vld fan from california.. (fwd)

i just want to apologize for this computer wig-out that splattered all
this sh*t back onto the list. it was in no way my weird response to
laurie's message. sorry!!

pam

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to: pamela beavers <pbeavers@medmail.mcg.edu>
subject: re: t:pwjqymv0n ^lw:{p3p-pw0wrre: vld fan from california..

you wrote:
>
>=d8=da=ebzo=cc=d8bk=dfn=c8sr=d8qvz=f3[=b8g=3dcy
>
>u=f7on sat, 28 oct 1995, laurie higgins wrote:
>=aa=ba=be=ddl%o=f6=ec=e7=daqvg=e0/\<jr=c5ncl=e6oh=a6(=f4=fa=ees=b5=d6r=
a1=
>=d9=c6-
>b=fe2> you wrote:
>> >
>> >hey, someone here on the list mailed me awhile back about really
>> liking viva
>> >la diva, i was at water@randomc.com  i responded, but just a day
after
>> i
>> >responded i ended up getting this account.. water@mindspring.com
>> cna't get
>> >to my mail on my other account..   would like to keep up the mail
with
>> you..
>> >i think your name was carrie?  i dunno.. write me here if you are
>> still on..
>> >my signature at the time was from venus dirge, by cooper seay.
>> thanks--
>>=20
>> ........i know who you are talking about, i'm the one who sent her
her
>> vld tape.....i have to look up her address though....
>>=20
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............hey, i remember sending this to you, but is this your
response?  i mean, i couldn't find an actual message in there to
me....??

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subject:      re: ig list t-shirt

i don't mean this to be a "me, too" post, but since it has to do with a sort
of vote on the tees, my vote is yay for the
"a+e=ig" thing.  --also cuz i sorta lost whoever's address it is that we're
supposed to send this type of input to.  i hope that everyone else who favors
it will speak up (again, to whomever it should be sent), b/c it sounds like
that little tidbit would really add to the individuality of the shirt.
thanks, and sorry for the length over apparently nothing :)
ig's&guitars,
nikki

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sorry about that message re the t-shirts...i don't even know how old that
thing was, but it was just lingering in my outgoing mail, which i haven't
used in months.
anyway..................really sorry 'bout that........and this!
-nikki

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from :mohamad swidan
please send me alist of yours

my address
mohd63@ncc.moc.kw
kuwait

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subject:      hmm...

someone wrote, "the girls rule.  i love lesbian rock!"  i don't
remember who, but it got me thinking.  actually, it wasn't untill i
had been listening to ig for a long time before i found out their
sexual preference, but that didn't matter to me.  their songs appeal
to all types, and a lot of them are (i believe) about friendships,
and not necessarily romantic relationships.  that's how i feel about
that.  hope no one is offended too much.

anna

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subject:      ig & christianity

hello.  i joined the list a few weeks ago, and decided i'd finally bring up
this topic, because i know it's been something that's weighed heavily on my
mind.  i have my own questions and opinions, but i won't get into that now.
i'll wait to see what kind of responses i get first, because i don't know if
this is an appropriate topic for public list discussion.  after seeing some
of the reactions to really bad nigc (not out-of-control reactions, though), i
don't want to flare up anyone's anger towards me in my first post!
anyways, even if this idea does get shot down for list-talk, i'd still really
like to hear from anybody else who's interested in this topic--it'd be neat
to chat over it!
thanks for reading this through.

p4m

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>>from :mohamad swidan
>>please send me alist of yours

>>my address
>>mohd63@ncc.moc.kw
>>kuwait

i gotta laundry list..right here...somewhere...

*<rrriiiippppp!>*

:-(

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anna,

i agree with you completely.

neil hunt recently wrote: " there's two types of music, that which you like
and that which you don't" period.

further classifications are dangerous if they are exclusive and not merely
descriptive ("contemporatry, folky, country, hint of rock").

my personal belief is that labelling something "lesbian rock" is the same
as calling something "sexist rock". it's a dangerous slippery slide down
into the debate about "75 reasons" then.

am i straight, am i gay, am i bi. who knows, who cares. i just like the
indigo girls music one hell of  a lot :-) :-).

sad thing is since i discovered them no other band has been able to
dislodge them as my faves. i keep listeneing to others and of course like
it,but nothing has wowed me like they consistently do.

i know i'm a sad case :-).

adios,

gag

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subject:      faves, dylan, and other stuff
in-reply-to:  <199510310507.aaa23328@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> from "automatic
              digest processor" at oct 31, 95 00:00:59 am

here are my faves:

bruce springsteen
paul mccartney
karl hendricks trio
10k maniacs / natalie merchant
(as others have mentioned, great show here last wed. that
included joni's "river" -- better believe my lighter was
on for that!)
george winston
harry connick, jr.
smiths
xtc
pil
police
plaid descent
john williams movie scores

on to issue two:
dylans "tangled up in blue" is one of my fave dylan songs (although
the man's voice does remind me far too much of cheese grating, but i
digress).  it wasn't until i had the first disc of 1200 curfews on
"shuffle" play the other night that i found what seemed so familiar
about it.  it came on right after "least complicated".  for a second,
i thought that something was wrong with my player -- those first few
chords on the two songs are just so similar!

issue three (and final):
saturday night (well, sunday morning, but who's counting) i was grabbing
a late dinner/early breakfast.  as i was walking past the front window of
a local bar (yacht club for all you purdue-types), i heard the opening beat
to "galileo".  i was shocked.

obviously, i went in for a drink.  have to patronize the places that
play good music.

anyways, my research stack grows larger.  back to it.

best,

kevin

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hi, i just joined the list recently, too (a couple of days ago) and was
also interested in this discussion.  in their first two albums, they
make frequent religious references and thank god in the liner notes.  i
don't think this happens in subsequent albums.  are they still
religious?  the only thing i've seen since then is the reference by amy
in 1200 curfews to having a hard time finding a church, state, etc. that
supports gay marriages...

sorry if this crosses the boundary of talking about thier personal
lives.

><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
est :)                                  "yet she wish'd/that heaven
han@minerva.cis.yale.edu              had made her such a fish." -i.iii
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

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              graeber on tue, 31 oct 1995 10:42:22 +0100)

>>>>> "britta" == britta graeber <brgr@stud.uni-sb.de> writes:

    britta> i've been listening to the igs for some years now, but
    britta> hardly anybody in germany seems to really know them. don't
    britta> ask me why. if any of you has a suggestion how we can change
    britta> this...(don't hold me responsible for my weird fellow
    britta> country(wo)men..)

add a techno beat. :)  seriously, when i visited germany they added
cool techno beats to songs i'd never imagined possible.  and i usually
don't like techno.

i'm trying to tell you something 'bout my life
boom boom boom b-boom boom boom boom :)

><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
est :)                                  "yet she wish'd/that heaven
han@minerva.cis.yale.edu              had made her such a fish." -i.iii
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

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ig & religion reply.

am i atheist, am i catholic, am i agnostic, am i hindu, muslim, druid. who
knows? who cares? not i.

i have opinions, my own morals, my own sense of right and wrong, good and
bad, fair and unfair.

i like the indigo girls. i subscribe to this newsgroup.

did the igs incorporate some religious overtones in their lyrics? if you
play "ghost" backwards at 78rpm can i here the wailing of banshees or am i
burning out the motor on my turntable. (okay i cannot do this on a cd!, d-
on't spoil my fun :-))

interpreting lyrics and writings of others and then preaching them
evangelically is tooooo risky. the only person who truly knows the meaning
is the originator. if our analysis of ig lyrics ever gets more than a light
hearted correspondence  (i liked the baldy interpretation of touch me ha!
ha! but, hey, i'm losing my hair! is that e=mail pc?! (joke) (big cheesy
grin)) i'm signing off.


yours cruising through the ether with all the other restless souls.

gag

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x-to:         cyrano de babestherac <han-esther@yale.edu>

>hi, i just joined the list recently, too (a couple of days ago) and was
>also interested in this discussion.  in their first two albums, they
>make frequent religious references and thank god in the liner notes.  i
>don't think this happens in subsequent albums.  are they still
>religious?  the only thing i've seen since then is the reference by amy
>in 1200 curfews to having a hard time finding a church, state, etc. that
>supports gay marriages...
>

well, just going on their music, one reference that comes to mind right away
is from the wood song:  "no way construction of this tricky plan/ was built
by other than a greater hand/ with a love that passes all our understanding/
watching closely over the journey."

also, the religious references are still there as well in amy's soc/jacob's
ladder on this train.


those are just a couple that i could think of right off the bat.....


jack
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intimate strangers

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subject:      the new thread i'm picking up rather late in the game

1. tom waits
2. tom waits
3. tom waits
4. tom waits
5. tom waits
etc.....

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hey :)

>am i atheist, am i catholic, am i agnostic, am i hindu, muslim, druid. who
>knows? who cares? not i.

ummm...i think you should. know, that is...

>did the igs incorporate some religious overtones in their lyrics?

amy was a religion major
emily's father is a minister and religion lecturer (right??)
emily goes to church regularly

that much has been said in interviews and things...i think the combination
of the above would easily manifest itself in lyrical outpourings.

>interpreting lyrics and writings of others and then preaching them
>evangelically is tooooo risky. the only person who truly knows the meaning
>is the originator.

i remember being shown an article, which had an interview with emily, and it
was very pro-emily being a christian. i think it twisted what she said, but
i'd be happily proven wrong...

from what i know, and they've said, they're both very spiritual, but not
what christians would call christians. certainly they've (as far as i know)
never described themselves as such in so many words...

>if our analysis of ig lyrics ever gets more than a light
>hearted correspondence i'm signing off.

i don't think the question had anything to do with lyrics...but hey, i'll
take lyrical discussion over name choosing, and irellavent 'humour'
discussions anyday...

@}--,--'---
  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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on mon, 30 oct 1995, kristen goodwine wrote:

> the girl's rule. i love lesbian rock.
>
> peace to all,
> kristen
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amen.

amanda

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on tue, 31 oct 1995, free the chickens! wrote:

> someone wrote, "the girls rule.  i love lesbian rock!"  i don't
> remember who, but it got me thinking.  actually, it wasn't untill i
> had been listening to ig for a long time before i found out their
> sexual preference, but that didn't matter to me.  their songs appeal
> to all types, and a lot of them are (i believe) about friendships,
> and not necessarily romantic relationships.  that's how i feel about
> that.  hope no one is offended too much.
>
> anna
>
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>  music and cats."       -albert schweitzer
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of course, the igs music applies to everyone, as evidenced by the range
of people on this mailing list. however, i think knowing their sexual
orientation makes allows one to understand their music a bit better; it
just helps you know where they're coming from, etc. also, i think for
many people (myself included), their lesbianism is significant when
looking for role models. as a non-heterosexual, i am always happy to see
positive images of lesbians and gays is the mainstream. i don't think
sexual orientation need be a major issue when the power of the indigo girls'
music obviously transcends all definition, but i also don't think we
should forget it.

amanda

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subject:      re: ig & christianity

greetings :)

>well, just going on their music, one reference that comes to mind right away
>is from the wood song:  "no way construction of this tricky plan/ was built
>by other than a greater hand/ with a love that passes all our understanding/
>watching closely over the journey."

i think the whole of the wood song is based upon noah's arc, but i could be
wrong at this point...

>also, the religious references are still there as well in amy's soc/jacob's
>ladder on this train.

jacob's ladder is a traditional song, no?? i'm not sure, but i would have
thought it was sung by the jews in a concentration camp, and hence would be
a jewish/old testament song as opposed to christian, but hey, i've been wrong
before (once or twice...i think...)

but there are tons of references to christianity, and religion:

hey jesus.

strange fire is roughly about tellevangalists (i think, again...my memory's
getting worse with age, if i'm right, amy's said as much...

finlandia is a hymn...

secure yourself to heaven, hold on tight the night has come...

i will not be a pawn for the prince of darkness any longer...

chatter, chirp, squeak, buzz...

and indeed, many more...

although just because they sing about it, doesn't say anything about their
true beliefs in itself...i mean, none of their lyrics are a blatant christian
message. (although i'm sure there are a few cd's in the christian section of
some music stores which have less blatent lyrics...)

so, hopefully some cool igc discussion is forthcoming...please :)

i go now do some work like i'm s'posed to be doing :p:p

@}--,-'---
  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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i agree...:)  can anyone tell me of some lesser known lesbian bands that
would be worth checking out?

thanks!


kerry in mass.

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           anna just wrote that she didn't know the sexual preference
          of the girls when she started listening to them.  same for
          me.  finding out made no difference in my perception of
          their music, as it shouldn't .  love is love, friendship is
          friendship.  no, anna, you are not alone!  kimberly

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subject:      ig bootlegs and welcome me

hi y'all,
this is my first posting so please forgive any errors i may make and i'd really
appreciate a nice nudge in the correct direction if i stray.  i just joined lastnight and after reading my mail this morning am glad that i did.  there aren't
a lot of people where i live that appreciate the ig as much as i do.  i don't
know why except that maybe they haven't heard of them...pity.  anyway,  i don't have much (anything?) to trade but would really love to get more ig music.  can someone help me out here?  thanx and i hope to hear from y'all soon.
amy  (nomad)

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subject:      ani di franco

hey guys,
        i joined the list the day 12cc came out and i just wanted to say hi to  everyone,  it's great hearing input from people who love the girls as much as i do.
        i just wanted to inform everyone that there's a one page article about  ani di franco in the most recent rolling stones.  i haven't heard any of her     music yet, but i hear everyone raving about her on the list, so i thought there might be some interest.  also can anyone tell me, where i can get her cd?  i'm  going to school at a really small town in the upper penninsula of michigan and  can't find any of her music around here.
        here's my contribution to the other favorite musicians:
cindy lee berryhill
murmurs
james
ferron
simon and garfunkel
juliana hatfield
frente!
10,000 maniacs
toad the wet sprocket
rem

        if anyone could help me find out where i could get an ani di franco cd  i would be very appreciative.  thanks, guys!

chandreyi

p.s.  i cast my vote for intimate strangers

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subject:      re[2]: i'd like to propose a new thread

          i wrote down my list for the new thread, but somehow forgot
          one very important artist!  jimmy buffett!  we must not let
          a music list continue without his name on it! that's all!
                                          kimberly
                           p.s.
                            rich, forgive me!!!!!!

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subject:      ethics question....

ugh...i hope i'm not starting anything.

but...  :)

i notice that there were two new bootleg cd's out there to get, history
of us and complicated girls.  i was totally psyched when i saw this!!
new things to listen to!  but then, last night, i got to thinking about
those cd's.
i have many bootleg tapes.  i love them.  i've heard a lot of things that
i might never have heard (since i can't go and follow their every move on
tour.....shucks!!)  :)  anyway, the difference i see between the tapes
and the cd's is the money put forth.  and who it goes to.
amy and emily have worked and work very hard for what they have.  i have
payed nothing for my bootleg tapes, just traded them back and forth.
these cd's are not made by ig, therefore they are missing out on the
royalties they deserve.  someone is making a great deal on their hard work.

hmm, i don't know.  i haven't really expressed myself very well.  all i
know is that i'd love to get those cd's for the material on them, but i
don't want to advocate someone else's money making scheme.  ugh...any
thoughts???
(mind you, i'm out of town for a week, but i still wanted to bring this up)

i'm not trying to piss off the people who bought them or want them, but i
just wanted to know how everybody felt.  i mean, on the old list, people
got really ticked when someone held back a dollar for handling on video
tapes....it's almost the same type of thing...they made those cd's for a
fee, and are taking several dollars off the top--none of which (i
suspect) is going to ig.

well, enough babbling...hope to hear some ideas on this one.


emily

:)!

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subject:      re: ig & christianity
x-to:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <8535.199510311614@ph.surrey.ac.uk>

on tue, 31 oct 1995, mr neil hunt wrote:

> hey :)


hey neil!!


> amy was a religion major
> emily's father is a minister and religion lecturer (right??)
> emily goes to church regularly


actually, emily's father is a professor in the music dept. at emory
univ., in sacred music...
when i looked around for master's in music programs, i happened to look
at emory (hoping that they had a program, but they don't) and saw her
father's name in the department listing.

well, hope this helps!


emily

:)!

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on tue, 31 oct 1995 kparkington@fred.bridgew.edu wrote:

> i agree...:)  can anyone tell me of some lesser known lesbian bands that
> would be worth checking out?
>
> thanks!
>
>
> kerry in mass.
>
lots of these have been mentioned in the lists of personal favorites, but
i'll recap anyway:
ani difranco (of, course, she's pretty well known now)
kristen hall
phranc
melissa ferrick
leslie nuchow (she's in the new england music scene and you can't get her
stuff in stores, so you'd have to find out where she's playing)
lisa mccormick (same as above, and a friend of mine, so i'm particularly
enthusiastic about recommending her: however, she's currently taking some
time off. if you're really interested though, i could give you an address
to get on her mailing list)

and, if you're feeling particulaly adventurous...
two nice girls and girls in the nose are a couple of very...uh...forward
groups.

please! no one take offense at the fact that this list is only lesbian
singers. i certainly don't mean to suggest that the sexual orientation of
these people is more important than their merits as musicians. besides,
i'm just answering the question...

amanda

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hey this is a fun one,

i'll clarify my my previous point on "religion". i said "who,knows? who
care? not i." poor english i know: i know my beliefs, nobody else at least
on this group knows them and i don't think that matters. i don't know
theirs and not knowing it or knowing it wouldn't alter my view of them.

peoples beliefs only become an issue when they try to make them other
peoples beliefs too.

in this way i'm all for spiritual as a matter of the life soul, religion is
a particular system of faith, and unfortunately can lead into the "one's
right, one's wrong" debate. i like spiritual it is less definitive.

perhaps this relates to my concerns over lyric interpretation. i think its
interesting to hear what the lyrics mean to others, humourous or
spiritually, but it will only ever be their interpretation. in doing this
we will never be right or wrong.and shouldn't try to convince anyone that
we are. we could ask a & e for the definitive answer, but they're the only
ones who know.


i hope i've clarified my earlier posting. maybe religion hangs too heavy
with some to intersperse with my humourous points.

adios,

gag

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subject:      re: ig bootlegs and welcome me

>>hi y'all,
>>this is my first posting so please forgive any errors i may make and i'd
>>really appreciate a nice nudge in the correct direction if i stray.  i just
>>joined lastnight and after reading my mail this morning am glad that i did.
>>there aren't a lot of people where i live that appreciate the ig as much as
>>i do.  i don't know why except that maybe they haven't heard of
>>them...pity.  anyway,  i don't have much (anything?) to trade but would
>>really love to get more ig music.  can someone help me out here?  thanx and
>>i hope to hear from y'all soon.
>amy  (nomad)


well <she said, reaching for her trusty floppy>, here is something that was
posted recently that should answer some questions.  also there is a cassette
called cover me grey which is a compilation of ig songs they have covered at
recent shows...if you're interested i'll rerun margaret's post about
it...here is the other one i had in mind...

from:           jones <jone3176@saintmarys.edu>
subject:        re: bootlegs
date:           friday, september 29, 1995  3:06:45 edt

well, since no one is answering this question...there really is no set
"information" on ig bootleg tapes.  you just have to ask who has them...
for example, and i may be putting myself in a bad position here, but i
have at least 20 different shows on tape.  this is from bootlegging
myself and from trading.  so, i mean, you just have to post and ask
someone if they would be willing to make you a copy of a show...most
people have a specific show in mind, but not all.  this is usually the
general procedure.  but after someone replies to your post, it is best to
work everything out via personal e-mail so that the list isn't bored with
all the details and the person with the bootleg doesn't get swamped with
a million requests.

also...i wanted to comment on whoever said that the girls don't like
people bootlegging.  well, in phoenix at the end of last may, i was at an
aftershow party hosted by the girls and we specifically asked amy how she
felt about bootlegging.  she said that she didn't care as long as people
didn't make money off of them...and that she even bootlegged some shows
herself.  (i'm assuming this is other than the copy of the show she could
receive from the soundboard tapes).

carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

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hey :)

bootleg cd's well...the deal is that most of the ones that are coming out of
europe (or were...) are legal in their country of origin. that's because the
companies don't need the ig's permission to release the discs as long as they
pay 'reasonable compensation' and full songwriters royalties.

so a&m should get as much from these as they would from legal releases (in fact
more, as they don't have deductions for promotion, recording costs, etc...)

i think the laws may be changing, but that's how it was when the book i got
this from (clinton heylin's 'great white wonders- a history of rock bootlegs')
was written.

personally, i think history of us is the only bootleg really worth owning 'cause
it's in decent quality, by a comany that obviously cares about the band and
giving value for money.
the others are in cheaper sleeves, from audience recordings (when there are
contemporary radio shows that could have been issued) and tracks wrongly titled.
so these companies are more in for a quick buck...but that's my opinion...

i think a possibility for improving the situation is for say, amy's label,
daemon to issue some mail-order-charity type things, so at least if people want
to buy the important (especially early) stuff they can get it in best quality
and with money going to good things...

sheesh, i could compile some excellent discs/tapes :):)

how i wish i could cc this to someone who would take notice and do it...umm...
maybe i will...

@}--,-'---
  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)        'and he calls her the chocolate girl,
  |      |  wey 2/06             cause he thinks she melts when he touches her.
  |      |   surrey court         and she knows she's the chocolate girl,
  | (o)(o)    university of surrey cause she's broken up and swallowed,
  c      _)  guildford              and wrapped in bits of silver...'
  |   __|   surrey                   @}--,--'---
  |   /    gu2 5xh                   'i was only lyin'
/____\   england                      that's what liers do...'
/      \ +44 (0)1483 259393 ex. 4972    @}--,--'---

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emily (great name),

i have to agree; i don't see the point of trading bootlegs of your favorite
band!  they definitely deserve all the rewards they've worked for.

lisa

>ugh...i hope i'm not starting anything.
>
>but...  :)
>
>i notice that there were two new bootleg cd's out there to get, history
>of us and complicated girls.  i was totally psyched when i saw this!!
>new things to listen to!  but then, last night, i got to thinking about
>those cd's.
>i have many bootleg tapes.  i love them.  i've heard a lot of things that
>i might never have heard (since i can't go and follow their every move on
>tour.....shucks!!)  :)  anyway, the difference i see between the tapes
>and the cd's is the money put forth.  and who it goes to.
>amy and emily have worked and work very hard for what they have.  i have
>payed nothing for my bootleg tapes, just traded them back and forth.
>these cd's are not made by ig, therefore they are missing out on the
>royalties they deserve.  someone is making a great deal on their hard work.
>
>hmm, i don't know.  i haven't really expressed myself very well.  all i
>know is that i'd love to get those cd's for the material on them, but i
>don't want to advocate someone else's money making scheme.  ugh...any
>thoughts???
>(mind you, i'm out of town for a week, but i still wanted to bring this up)
>
>i'm not trying to piss off the people who bought them or want them, but i
>just wanted to know how everybody felt.  i mean, on the old list, people
>got really ticked when someone held back a dollar for handling on video
>tapes....it's almost the same type of thing...they made those cd's for a
>fee, and are taking several dollars off the top--none of which (i
>suspect) is going to ig.
>
>well, enough babbling...hope to hear some ideas on this one.
>
>
>emily
>
>:)!
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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 18:13:49 +0000
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              mts5@aber.ac.uk
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i can't think of a more ghastly idea.   i hate hearing songs turned into
techno beats (you can hardly call them songs) but if i heard an ig song with
a techno backing i would rip it off the turntable and break it into several
tiny pieces.

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

cyrano wrote:

>>>>>> "britta" == britta graeber <brgr@stud.uni-sb.de> writes:
>
>    britta> i've been listening to the igs for some years now, but
>    britta> hardly anybody in germany seems to really know them. don't
>    britta> ask me why. if any of you has a suggestion how we can change
>    britta> this...(don't hold me responsible for my weird fellow
>    britta> country(wo)men..)
>
>add a techno beat. :)  seriously, when i visited germany they added
>cool techno beats to songs i'd never imagined possible.  and i usually
>don't like techno.
>
>i'm trying to tell you something 'bout my life
>boom boom boom b-boom boom boom boom :)
>
>><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
>est :)                                  "yet she wish'd/that heaven
>han@minerva.cis.yale.edu              had made her such a fish." -i.iii
><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
>
>--
>--
>"it's just so weird, when you've, like, chosen your wallpaper and you think
> you're pretty happy with it, but every time you pass by the other wallpaper,
> you know, the one you sort of like more?"
>"brian, we're not talking about wallpaper here, are we?"
>                                -- brian and graham
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subject:      love is love

anna,
  kimberly is right, love is love no matter what.  i didn't know before i began listening to them and it doesn't make any difference.  if it did anything, it
made me like and relate to their music even more.
amy (nomad)

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> i think its
>interesting to hear what the lyrics mean to others, humourous or
>spiritually, but it will only ever be their interpretation. in doing this
>we will never be right or wrong.and shouldn't try to convince anyone that
>we are. we could ask a & e for the definitive answer, but they're the only
>ones who know.

even if we asked them, would we really know what the song means?  all we
would know is what the song meant to them when they were writing it.   after
a song has been written, it takes on a life of its own independent of the
person that wrote it.  the song is somehow more than the combination of all
of the interpretations that people give it.  i have always loved that about
the ig's music.


just my 2 cents

j
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mr g hewitt wrote:

>did the igs incorporate some religious overtones in their lyrics? if you
>play "ghost" backwards at 78rpm can i here the wailing of banshees or am i
>burning out the motor on my turntable. (okay i cannot do this on a cd!, d-
>on't spoil my fun :-))

i think a reference to the "land of canaan" is pretty religious.   when
someone at the london gig last november called out for strange fire, amy
replied, "no ... but same album, same religious significance", and the two
then played land of canaan (without the band, unless you count sara lee on
tambourine).   but amy has said that she uses religion less and less now,
and more natural references.

mat
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subject:      re: love is love
x-to:         amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510311817.naa18559@ashcloud.geo.mtu.edu>

i started listening to the igs after i already knew their sexual
orientaion, and i don't think it matters in the slight who or what the
songs are about...amy and emily are masters at writing songs we all can
relate to, no matter who we are.  just my little note...  here on my
small, comservative campus, the issue of gay rights is being debated in
length.  and i couldn't resist adding my own little letter here telling
everyone...love is love....like amy snyder says.


        jamie suthard

                "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
                                        -- indigo girls

"a smooth, round stone...as small as the world, as large as alone."

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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 10:00:28 -0800
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subject:      ig on disney
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could someone, anyone please post the ig schedule for appearring on the
disney channel.  are all the shows done or are there still more?
thanks

jason

oh, i guess i should mention, since my name may look new...i've been
reading this list forever, but i have to admit that this is my first
official post.  anyway, all of you regulars crack me up and i love all of ya.
bye.

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subject:      re: ethics question....

hmmm. . . .

this is definitely a tough one.  i trade in gd material as well as ig
stuff and this issue has come up several times in other forums.  imho,
it is wrong to buy bootlegs because it robs the artists of their
rightful rewards.  on the other hand, these treasures are too good to
be passed up.  many musicians (pearl jam for example) take soundboard
recordings and give them to cd manufacturers off-shore after a
particularly good concert.  this is their way of getting an especially
good concert recording out to the public without going through the
channels outlined by their contract.  i think the gd have done this as well.

i've bought several of these cd's knowing it was wrong but i justify it
psychologically by spinning tapes for people especially those that are
starting out collections and need good trading material.  i make a
point of taking absolutely no money for doing this.

i guess what i'm saying is that if a you buy a bootleg cd, do a favor
to the other fans by making copies and distributing them free of
charge.  this helps minimize the need for others to buy the cd to have
the quality recordings.  this in turn limits how much money the
bootleggers (is that a word?) can make off of us and the artists.  it's
not the best policy but does take into consideration human nature and
makes the most of a somewhat ugly situation.

peace to you all-
ron
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to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls  <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
subject: ethics question....
date: tuesday, october 31, 1995 11:53am

ugh...i hope i'm not starting anything.

but...  :)

i notice that there were two new bootleg cd's out there to get, history
of us and complicated girls.  i was totally psyched when i saw this!!
new things to listen to!  but then, last night, i got to thinking about
those cd's.
i have many bootleg tapes.  i love them.  i've heard a lot of things that
i might never have heard (since i can't go and follow their every move on
tour.....shucks!!)  :)  anyway, the difference i see between the tapes
and the cd's is the money put forth.  and who it goes to.
amy and emily have worked and work very hard for what they have.  i have
payed nothing for my bootleg tapes, just traded them back and forth.
these cd's are not made by ig, therefore they are missing out on the
royalties they deserve.  someone is making a great deal on their hard work.

hmm, i don't know.  i haven't really expressed myself very well.  all i
know is that i'd love to get those cd's for the material on them, but i
don't want to advocate someone else's money making scheme.  ugh...any
thoughts???
(mind you, i'm out of town for a week, but i still wanted to bring this up)

i'm not trying to piss off the people who bought them or want them, but i
just wanted to know how everybody felt.  i mean, on the old list, people
got really ticked when someone held back a dollar for handling on video
tapes....it's almost the same type of thing...they made those cd's for a
fee, and are taking several dollars off the top--none of which (i
suspect) is going to ig.

well, enough babbling...hope to hear some ideas on this one.


emily

:)!

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subject:      love

jaime,
  sorry if i misspelled your name..anyway where is it that you are?
amy (nomad)

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on tue, 31 oct 1995, amanda m leff wrote:

> on mon, 30 oct 1995, kristen goodwine wrote:
>
> > the girl's rule. i love lesbian rock.
> >
> > peace to all,
> > kristen
> >
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i'm really disappinted in this thread.  not only that people seriously
classify the indigo girls (or any band, for that matter) as "lesbian
rock" but that the statement was then echoed by a person (amanda) that i
thought was generally above such superficial designations.  what makes ig
"lesbian rock"?  certainly not because their music speaks only to that
segment of the population;  i htnk there are numerous people on this
list, male and female, straight and gay, who would disagree with that.
does it mean that all lesbians, or only lesbians listen to them?  i hope
its not a reference to the girls' sexuality because, while i htink that
always was and will be a major component of their lives and music, i
really don't think that it is the predominant aspect.  is it what
attracted *you* to the ig?  i think in most cases, it wasn't.  i think
for most people on this list, the first time we heard amy and emily,
their sexuality was one of the farthest thoughts from our mind.  we here
on this list are united by our love of the indigo girls.  let's not
divide ourselves on the basis of sexuality.
parker
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subject:      thaaaaangs

i always mention about 6 different things (thaaaangs) when i post, so i never
know what to say in the subject line.

first of all: let me thank everyone once again for your responses to my tmf
interpretation. i'm glad y'all got a chuckle out of it, and i certainly got a
chuckle out of your reply's, but i have to 'fess up. i wasn't alone. i had a
partner in crime. yen tang and i figured out the whole "hair thing" together.
so she's as loony as i am. :)

next, let me add a word or two on the kristen hall discussion. she's amazing.
simply amazing. really, go buy a cd (my vote is for "fact and fiction" first).
in fact, she's my _second_ favorite artist, right behind another group we all
know and love. she's definitely underrated. she's got some really clever stuff
too. "peaches" is a song that basically is like a telephone conversation,
kinda funky, and "wish i may" is basically the old wishing on a star rhyme,
but much more interesting. :) as for her voice, well, it's totally unique.
it's like a purr. it's like it's covered in caramel or something. every time i
hear it i just get this feeling of total well-being. beautiful.

on the discussion of other activities we like, i have to say that sherlyn,
your my hero :) i love all those ig related activities. all my family and
friends think i'm crazy. they just don't get it, do they? but i'll go with
cycling too, and still considering the tattoo thing, (tho i have to draw the
line at golf. now _there's_ an activity i don't quite get. i'll leave that for
emily) :)

and one more thing. i was watching ghost this morning on my tape of the disney
special, and  i know someone mentioned this already, but i didn't believe it
till i saw it. that woman flat picks it! how??? i swear she has bionic
fingers. also, here's a question for those of you who have the songbook.
there's that little riff she plays i think it's at the end of the verse, or
something. bottom of the first page of the songbook. it's written as g f# g
(1st string) played simultaneously with a held c (i think) on the 5th string,
and then d on the second string played simultaneously with a b on the 5th
string. so....how can she possibly do this with a flat pick? i'm thinking that
maybe when she recorded the album, she fingerpicked it, and in concert she
flat picks, and only does the melody line on the first two strings, and just
leaves off the base. has anybody seen this, does anybody know? can anybody
hear me? hellllooooooo?

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
(who has caved in to peer pressure and now presents you with her new "lite
sig.")


lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "a thousand guitar strings - amy
bethlehem, pa             two guitar strings - emily
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 13:05:18 -0600
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i think that the name "girlies" is quite appropriate myself.

peace to all,
kristen

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jen-
thank you, thank you, thank you!!!  i was going to do a post asking about
this version of uncle john's band, which, i agree, is awesome and one of
their best covers.  i heard it live at the greek in la during the rites of
passage tour...
thanks for the info about it, glad someone else thinks its just as cool! ;)

jenn
p.s. i don't know if anyone has suggested this in the past, but the girls
always seem to have a signature song, something new and different, or a
cover, near the end of every major concert of theirs i have ever gone to.
last year when caroline aiken was touring with them, they did an amazing a
cappella song (gee, i can't even remember the name of it, just that it was
incredible). the year before was uncle john's band.  i think it would be
great to have a collection of those songs and covers all in one place.  i'm
kinda new to the list, so i don't know if one is out there already, (if
there is, someone please tell me how i could get a copy of it :)


>        i don't know if any of you out there have heard the deadicated
>(greatful dead) album, but the indigo girl's version of uncle john's band
>is awesome.  if you reallylike the indigo girls it is in your best interests
>to purchase this album.  even though there is only one song of theirs on
>there, it is worth it!
>        just thought i would tell you :)
>jen
>
>

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subject:      re: hmm...
x-to:         mr g hewitt <gh18798@ggr.co.uk>

i call the ig lesbian rock because they are so open about their sexuality.
i for one am attracted to them all the more for that reason. once again, it
wasn't meant to offend, only to celebrate.

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subject:      re: hmm...
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>>
>of course, the igs music applies to everyone, as evidenced by the range
>of people on this mailing list. however, i think knowing their sexual
>orientation makes allows one to understand their music a bit better; it
>just helps you know where they're coming from, etc. also, i think for
>many people (myself included), their lesbianism is significant when
>looking for role models. as a non-heterosexual, i am always happy to see
>positive images of lesbians and gays is the mainstream. i don't think
>sexual orientation need be a major issue when the power of the indigo girls'
>music obviously transcends all definition, but i also don't think we
>should forget it.
>
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amanda, that was very nicely said, thank you.  what are you wearing

peace to all,
kristen

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              kristen goodwine <kgoodwin@huntingdon.edu>
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subject:      re: hmm...
x-to:         amanda m leff <amanda.leff@yale.edu>

amanda, the what are you wearing comment was not mine, but a prank played
by my little desperate lesbian friend

peace to all,
kristen

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i hear you.

jilleen elaine moore


on tue, 31 oct 1995, jamie suthard wrote:

> i started listening to the igs after i already knew their sexual
> orientaion, and i don't think it matters in the slight who or what the
> songs are about...amy and emily are masters at writing songs we all can
> relate to, no matter who we are.  just my little note...  here on my
> small, comservative campus, the issue of gay rights is being debated in
> length.  and i couldn't resist adding my own little letter here telling
> everyone...love is love....like amy snyder says.
>
>
>         jamie suthard
>

>                 "the closer we get, the harder the fall..."
>                                         -- indigo girls
>
>  "a smooth, round stone...as small as the world, as large as alone."
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subject:      re: ig on disney
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i'd appreciate knowing if there are anymore ig disney special dates too!  (;

thanks,

jenifer
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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              from "parker b. hamilton 99" at oct 31, 95 01:55:44 pm

>
> on tue, 31 oct 1995, amanda m leff wrote:
>
> > on mon, 30 oct 1995, kristen goodwine wrote:
> >
> > > the girl's rule. i love lesbian rock.
> > >
> > > peace to all,
> > > kristen
> > >
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> > amanda
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> i'm really disappinted in this thread.  not only that people seriously
> classify the indigo girls (or any band, for that matter) as "lesbian
> rock" but that the statement was then echoed by a person (amanda) that i
> thought was generally above such superficial designations.  what makes ig
> "lesbian rock"?  certainly not because their music speaks only to that
> segment of the population;  i htnk there are numerous people on this
> list, male and female, straight and gay, who would disagree with that.
> does it mean that all lesbians, or only lesbians listen to them?  i hope
> its not a reference to the girls' sexuality because, while i htink that
> always was and will be a major component of their lives and music, i
> really don't think that it is the predominant aspect.  is it what
> attracted *you* to the ig?  i think in most cases, it wasn't.  i think
> for most people on this list, the first time we heard amy and emily,
> their sexuality was one of the farthest thoughts from our mind.  we here
> on this list are united by our love of the indigo girls.  let's not
> divide ourselves on the basis of sexuality.
> parker
> ******************************************************************************
> "'is the glass half-full or empty?' i ask her as i fill it.  she says 'it
> doesn't really matter, pretty soon you're bound to spill it'". es
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go parker go!!!
and no  slam against amanda either.
nomad

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x-to:         kgoodwin@huntingdon.edu

this whole "lesbian rock" thing is getting way out of hand.  as someone
said before, it is important to some lesbian fans because it is a voice
they can identify with.  of course the girls' music is for all  audiences!
now let's move on to something a bit more productive...or we'll be talking
in circles about the whole sexuality thing.  :)

kerry

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x-to:         "parker b. hamilton 99" <hamilton@panther.middlebury.edu>

it was a joke parker, just forget it, and their will be peace again. sorry
if i have offended the gods.

peace to all,
kristen

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subject:      re: ethics question

wow, thanks for all the mail thus far on my little internal problem!
:)

yuck, that sounds gross!  but seriously, thanks esp. to neil for the info
on laws....


have a great one everybody!

emily

ps--did anyone else notice (yeah, right! stupid question) that the
watershe video says 10 years of underground video on the cover and 10 years
of underground indigo on the video....strange.

guess they didn't get together with someone on that!

:)

take care...still waiting for squeaky to make it to a cd...sniff...

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subject:        !!!!!!!***>>>cover tape ready<<<***!!!!!!!
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       well, believe it or not, the cover tape is finally ready!!

what:  cover me grey (title by greg flamer, rock on) is a compilation of
songs that ig have covered and not recorded (with one exception).  it was
put together for pleasure, not profit.  i will be posting this exact
message periodically over the next few weeks.  it has a wicked cool
insert (grey paper--get it?) with artwork designed by ig fans as well as
the lyrics to all the songs included on the tape.  the songs are:

side a
american tune (autzen stadium, eugene, or, 8/22/93)
love of the common people (reverse-1)
cortez the killer (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
summertime (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88, with michael stipe)
bury my heart at wounded knee (radio 1, england, 6/23/95, no band)
bartender's blues (central park, ny, ny, 9/20/92, with sara lee)
water is wide (club r&r)
wild horses (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
thin line (the backyard (soundcheck), austin, tx, 9/1/94)
melissa (shades)

side b
wild, wild party at the loquat tree (put on your green shoes)
southern man (radio city music hall, ny, ny, 6/28/94, with cooper tisdale
        and kristen hall)
house at pooh corner (shades)
daddy's all gone (shades)
river (toad's place, new haven, ct, 12/9/90)
hairshirt (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88)
the weakness in me (live at san francisco epic promo--awesome)
down by the river (live at san francisco promo--awesome)
mona lisas and mad hatters (reverse-1)
midnight train to georgia (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with gail
        andorsey and jimmy descant)
finlandia (the pier, seattle, wa, 8/17/94, with caroline aiken)


some of the songs on this tape are versions that are to die for.  some
are not.  :)  i did the best i could, listening to sometimes 8 different
versions of a song trying to decide which one to use.  i am pleased to
say that there is only one song that, to me, is not extremely good
quality.  this is a bootleg project, though, so don't complain about the
quality of the tape unless you feel that this disclaimer is misleading.  :)


how to get one:  to get a copy of cover me grey, send $5 and a sase to
the appropriate branch of the tape tree (to be discussed below).  the $5
is to cover the cost of the blank tape (maxell xl ii high bias) and the
cost of the *insert* that goes in it.  the sase (a self-addressed, stamped
envelope) is to make the branches' lives easier.  the tape will be sent to
you in the sase that you send your branch, so you probably want to either
send a padded envelope or include packing materials (like newspaper).

if you live outside the united states:  send me private email and we will
work out a trade.  you will not be using the branches from the tape tree,
you will get your tape directly from me.

all profits, if any, will be donated to an organization which works to
reclaim and protect the rights of native americans.

ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)

if you are an aquarius (1/20-2/18), contact:
jude hunter
jhunter@rtc.gov

if you are a gemini (5/21-6/20), contact:
greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu

if you are a sagittarius (11/22-12/21), contact:
joan ferguson
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu

if you are a taurus (4/20-5/20), contact:
pamela shaw
sparkle@primenet.com

if you are a leo (7/23-8/22), contact:
brian colwell
brian@pas.rochester.edu

if you are a libra (9/23-10/22), contact:
mike bunch
mrbcom@earthlink.net

if you are a virgo (8/23-9/22), contact:
martine o'keeffe
okeeffe@lclark.edu

if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
alan fleming
daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com

if you are a pisces (2/19-3/20), contact:
deanna newcomb
deanna@dcez.com

if you are a scorpio (10/23-11/21) or a cancer (6/21-7/22), contact:
margaret clayton
maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

if you are a capricorn (12/22-1/19), contact:
carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu

also, when contacting your branch, make absolutely sure that the subject
line of your message contains the words cover tape (so that the branch
reads it promptly).  i sent this message to the tape tre branches and
cc'ed it to the list, so you should be able to reply directly to your
branch.  please delete all of the other addresses, as most of us don't
want to know that you want a copy of the cover tape (nothing personal).
please do not send requests for the cover tape to the list.  if you forget
who your branch is please wait and i will repost this message in a couple
of days.

well, i think that's it.  if there's anything that i forgot or if you
have any questions, please feel free to send me private email and i will
get back to you.  if i forgot something that warrants another posting to
the list i will do so.  thanks!!!!!

margaret


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subject:      chill!

to all intimate strangers
  when someone mentions "lesbian rock" i am quite sure that they do not mean to offend in any way.  i mean,  we all love the ig for our own reasons and at the  same time have our own personal reasons.  i think that sometimes we are overly  sensitive and just need to keep in mind that we all share a common love and
therefore a common bond.  let's not bicker.
thanx.
nomad

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subject:      re: ig bootlegs and welcome me
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in-reply-to:  <199510311652.laa29233@tephra.geo.mtu.edu>

on tue, 31 oct 1995, amy snyder wrote:

> hi y'all,
> this is my first posting so please forgive any errors i may make and i'd really
> appreciate a nice nudge in the correct direction if i stray.  i just joined lastnight and after reading my mail this morning am glad that i did.  there aren't
> a lot of people where i live that appreciate the ig as much as i do.  i don't
> know why except that maybe they haven't heard of them...pity.  anyway,  i don't have much (anything?) to trade but would really love to get more ig music.  can someone help me out here?  thanx and i hope to hear from y'all soon.
> amy  (nomad)
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amy,

i know where you're coming from.  i feel like no one appreciates the ig
as much as i do.  i assure you that almost every one of the people on
this mailing list are as taken away by their music as you and i are.

elizabeth in oregon

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subject:      re: ig on disney

november 14 at 10:30 pm
november 16 at 9:30 pm

gotta run--:-) jude

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subject:      re: i love ig!! & netiquette
x-to:         amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>

just a quick point....  when you are replying to a post, *please* don't
quote back the entire post (or previous 4-5 posts) when you are responding.
just leave in the pertinant parts.  also, if you are really just saying that
you liked what someone said, and not adding anything new, you might want to
delete the mailing list address from the "to" field and just mail your
response to the original sender.

jack
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from:         amanda m leff <amanda.leff@yale.edu>
subject:      re: ani di franco
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chandreyi,

you can usually find ani in the larger music chains (i.e. sam goody's,
hmv). if they don't have her in your area, however, you can write to:

righteous records
429 richmond ave.
buffalo, ny 14222

cds are $15 + $1.20 s&h and tapes are $10 + $.80 s&h.

her albums are:

ani difranco
not so soft
imperfectly
puddle dive
like i said
out of range
not a pretty girl

they're all wonderful, though the older ones tend to be a bit more folky
than the newer ones. my personal favorites are out of range and like i
said, though this changes depending on my mood, placement of the stars,
weather, what i had for breakfast, etc.

happy listening. :)

amanda

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subject:      re: hmm...

i have a question. i really like this group and i want to stay on on the list
but i have been trying to find a way where i dont get a 100 mail a day
. i know i shouldnt be writing about this on here but i really am confused
if there is a way just to get one big mail thing once a month or once a week
instead of every day. if you can help e-mail me back. and once again im sorry
for writting this here.
sarah

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subject:      55 million never heard of ig

incidentally, the uk population is estimated at about 56 million.   maybe a
bit more since 1992, but still that's most of the country!!!

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

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subject:      color me grey

hi

the 'blue food' thing seemed to work out pretty good, so i would like to try
this again:

my motivation:
i would like to try to help people who are looking for a copy of the 'color
me grey' tape (not to be confused with 'cover me grey', the cover song
compilation put together by folks on the list).

the tape:
45 minutes long, it is a collection of songs done solo by amy, recorded
sometime in the early 80's.  it has been traded for years under the title
'color me grey'.  recently trisha ran across an original copy of 'color me
grey' that had some different songs on it, so the exact history of this tape
is a little clouded, but it remains a great tape.

the track list is: scared to say we're friends, nashville, fallin star,
carry me away, anyway i love you, clues to you, always be there, color me
grey, free through eternity, passin' time, losin' touch, erase the pain,
anyone but myself

the deal:
email me privately (don't forget to take the ig list out of the 'to' field)
by sunday, november 5th.

i will send you an email with my address in it (even if you already have my
address please email me so i know how many people are taking me up on my offer)

you send me a blank tdk sa-60 tape (so i can make them up in advance and
send them out when i get your blank, this worked real well with 'blue food',
they all went out the same or next day) with a return sase (no cash please)

i send you a copy of 'color me grey'

the limit:
i can only make so many tapes, so if i get swamped i reserve the right to
cut off my offer

the catch:
if someone else is looking for the tape in the future, please do your best
to help them out

the future:
if this goes as smoothly as the 'blue food' tape did, i am going to try to
continue offering tapes as i am able

take care -

carolyn

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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 15:27:48 est
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parker wrote:

>what makes ig "lesbian rock"?
>is it what attracted *you* to the ig?  i think in most cases, it wasn't.
>i think for most people on this list, the first time we heard amy and emily,
>their sexuality was one of the farthest thoughts from our mind.

the thing that attracted me to ig was the fact that i never was cool. and
those simple, yet, profound words, na na na na na na na, changed my life
forever.

not because they are lesbian.

yen m tang                     "what i won't give to have the things that mean
ymt2@lehigh.edu                 the most not to mean the things i miss."
                                --emily saliers "language or the kiss"

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subject:      re: i love ig!!

i felt a little compelled to respond to this post.  i guess the i was drawn to
the ig
on account of a very good lesbian friend.  she helped me to relate to them.
since
then, i have discovered that their appeal goes way beyond all that.  although
it is
not possible for me to be a lesbian, (sometimes i feel like a lesbian trapped
in a
males body) i can still see the need to have similar role models.  especially
models
as awesome as amy and emily.   in a society where some people consider anyone
different  than themselves, abnormal, etc. (who wants to be normal anyway).  it
is nice
to know that you are not alone :)

cya,
- - howdy...

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subject:      suggestion & favor

if you're interested in "indie"-rock another lesbian band to check out would
be god is my co-pilot.  they're not all lesbians, but the lead
singer/songwriter is and she has titles like "hair in mouth."

my request: if anyone on the list is still in touch with paula shepherd,
formerly of arkansas, please let her know that danielle is looking for her
again, and pass along my email address.  thanks in advance.

regards,
danielle

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on thu, 26 oct 1995, dandy lion wrote:

> for those of you in atlanta oct. 26, carry yourselves to eddie's attic.
> yes, kristen hall will do her "thang" and will be joined later in the

        this birthday show of hers was great!  finally i got to see her
sing "howie" live. (eddie joined her on stage for that one.)  an
oh-so-lovely highlight was that simone simonton and cooper tisdale played
most of the set with her.

> evening by ms. hell-n-ready and the hot wods. many thrift store wonders are
> guaranteed! yep, red rubber clogs are on the comeback and the rhoda
> morganstern look has never been so hip!

        ummm.. this was.. well it was probably the single most funny
thing i've seen in years!  my throat and stomach hurt from laughing so
much. (among other things)  in my opinion, it's an occasion to plan your
atlanta visit around..but that's just a thought.  hell-n-ready still
looks as good during "pete's dragon" and the hot wods.... well ya gotta
see them. :)

        t

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> from what i know, and they've said, they're both very spiritual, but not
> what christians would call christians. certainly they've (as far as i know)
> never described themselves as such in so many words...

and besides, with the way the christian world is now, that can almost
encompas anything.  i have seen all sorts of things happening in the
church that turn me off a little bit, and i grew up in a supportive,
christ-like environment.  if amy and emily are christian, i'm sure
that their nit-picky beliefs are different from mine.  but if they
*really* believe in the christ-truth, then that's all that matters.
for me anyway.  some people have to have an all or nothing....

anna

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on tue, 31 oct 1995, kevin l. stamber wrote:
> on to issue two:
> dylans "tangled up in blue" is one of my fave dylan songs (although
> the man's voice does remind me far too much of cheese grating, but i
> digress).  it wasn't until i had the first disc of 1200 curfews on
> "shuffle" play the other night that i found what seemed so familiar
> about it.  it came on right after "least complicated".  for a second,
> i thought that something was wrong with my player -- those first few
> chords on the two songs are just so similar!

        actually (from a dork who strangely cares) the first chords
_sound_ similar, but tangled up in blue opens on a d, and least
complicated on an a.  they are both in the same major key, granted, but
the chords are not similar.  -- it is just the appregio used that makes
them sound exactly alike.  phil

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subject:      shawn colvin

   i was just wondering if anyone could tell me which of shawn colvin's
albums is the best.  i'm interested in listening to her stuff, but before i
invest i would like to know what to buy!

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subject:      re: i love ig!!

does anyone know when ig will be touring again? i would love the chance to
see them in concert.

peace to all,
kristen

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on tue, 31 oct 1995, michelle miklya wrote:

>    i was just wondering if anyone could tell me which of shawn colvin's
> albums is the best.  i'm interested in listening to her stuff, but before i
> invest i would like to know what to buy!

'cover girl' is great, but (as the title impies) it's all covers.  if you
want some of her own stuff, i'd probably say 'steady on' is better than
'fat city'...i think.  'cover girl' has ot some really good songs on it
though, a lot of them live, and that's probably my favourite album of
her's.
btw: does anyone know what shawn colvin's up to at the moment?  i havent'
heard anything about a tour - does this mean a new album could be in the
pipeline?

thanks for the words about kristen hall.  i bought 'be careful what you
wish for...' today -- i love it!

rebecca.

(whose vote is for 'indigo girls fan' - it just seems to capture
everything, or 'stranger than intimate chickens').

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on tue, 31 oct 1995, jason fligor wrote:

> could someone, anyone please post the ig schedule for appearring on the
> disney channel.  are all the shows done or are there still more?
> thanks
here are the upcoming times (eastern/pacific):
november 4  --  10:30pm
november 16 --  9:30pm
and your welcome!!  :)  if anyone still is disneyless and would like a
copy, e-mail me!  i guess i might be able to make myself watch it again...
;)
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yen adds to the fray:

>the thing that attracted me to ig was the fact that i never was cool. and
>those simple, yet, profound words, na na na na na na na, changed my life
>forever.
>
>not because they are lesbian.

let's not forget the words, "baby baby baby baby baby baby baby"

i guess i shouldn't be surprised at this thread, but i wonder if amy and emily
wouldn't be the teeniest bit disappointed in it. i've heard them say over and
over again in interviews that they want their music to appeal because of the
music, not because of their sexual preferences. and i have a confession to
make. i listened to them and revelled in their music for years before i even
knew they were gay. ok, i admitt, i'm really naive, but i'm straight and i
guess it just never occurred to me that they were gay, until someone told me.
point is, it's the lyrics and the music that brings us all together. why is it
that every single one of us (man, woman, gay, straight, short, tall, young,
old, etc etc) relates to this music?? simple. it's because amy and emily put a
lot of effort into making their lyrics send a message that _everyone_ can
understand, and enjoy, (or cry over, or whatever). which brings me to my other
point which is: i have to disagree with the person who said we shouldn't put
effort into trying to understand and interpret the songs, and that we
shouldn't go past light-hearted interpretations like yen's and my tmf-hair
thing. i personally spend a lot of time trying to understand what they're
trying to say, what they were thinking at the time, and what the song means to
me. (on a much more serious level than the hair thing:) furthermore, amy and
emily frequently talk about what was on their minds when they wrote a given
song. what's the point of having lyrics if you're not going to try to
understand them? :)

ok, sorry i kinda went off on a tangent there. i realize that the "lesbian
rock" comment was not intended to start this debate. i hope i didn't ruffle
any feathers. of course, we all listen to the girls for our own personal
reasons, nothing wrong with that. i just felt like getting on a soapbox for a
while, so i did. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo


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lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
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bethlehem, pa             two guitar strings - emily
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ok, so i'm the one who originally started the other-artists-we-also-like
thread.  i wanted to thank everybody who has submitted lists.

what i had in mind was that we could share lists of musicians that are
somehow similar to the indigo girls.  the idea was "if i like the indigo
girls, i might also like......"  i've now got a long list of cd's to
check out, and maybe buy!  thanks!

to those who have complained that the interests are too narrow - i don't
think we were talking about *all* music we like.  i'm sure each of us has
musical tastes beyond the indigo girls and others like them.

anyway, thanks for the suggestions.  anybody else have indigoesque
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hiya,

neil wrote:

> > emily's father is a minister and religion lecturer (right??)

and then emily wrote:

> actually, emily's father is a professor in the music dept. at emory
> univ., in sacred music...

you're both right. dr. saliers teaches in *both* the music and religion
depts. at emory.

btw, i was just flipping through the spring course atlas to decide what
i'm going to take next semester, and lo and behold, dr. saliers is
teaching a graduate course called, "emotions and passions."  interesting,
eh?

peace,
lori

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subject:      lesbian rock (fwd)

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date: tue, 31 oct 1995 18:55:57 -0500 (est)
from: amanda m leff <aml@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
to: parker hamilton <hamilton@panther.middlebury.edu>
subject: lesbian rock

hey parkie. i hope you read what i wrote in response to the lesbian rock
thing after that initial comment, but i'll just reiterate a few things:

obviously that wasn't what attracted me to the indigo girls (i was
listening to them long before i knew about their sexuality). however,
during that junior year time when i was rather confused and very unsure
of myself, it was so important to me to have role models that were okay.
and now, what a blessing to be able to affirm that in a light-hearted way
with other people and still know its okay. no, the indigo girls aren't
their sexuality, but they aren't completely seperate from it either. and
if some of us need to know and use that information, i don't see anything
wrong with that. if someone said "i love feminist music" would people be
so likely to call that comment unnecessary or negative? i don't think so.
i think it's hard for someone to understand the necessity of empowerment
and community and role models if he or she hasn't had the lgb experience
(not to discount anyone else's experience or call their opinions invalid:
yikes, but it's tricky gound we're walking on here). .
just don't take it all too seriously. it not meant that way and a little
self-affirmation never hurt anyone.

amanda

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on tue, 31 oct 1995 kparkington@fred.bridgew.edu wrote:

> this whole "lesbian rock" thing is getting way out of hand.  as someone
> said before, it is important to some lesbian fans because it is a voice
> they can identify with.  of course the girls' music is for all  audiences!
> now let's move on to something a bit more productive...or we'll be talking
> in circles about the whole sexuality thing.  :)
>
> kerry
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even though i'm a major source of all those messages, i agree, and i
think you said it perfectly. none of us want to be preaching here.

amanda

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i want to change my vote to 'stranger than intimate chickens'!

anna

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hey...love ya'll:)

...at least we love; some just hate in the name of love...

...very possitively gay today...

gavin:)

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subject:      re: i love ig!!

> make. i listened to them and revelled in their music for years before i even
> knew they were gay. ok, i admitt, i'm really naive, but i'm straight and i
> guess it just never occurred to me that they were gay, until someone told me.
> point is, it's the lyrics and the music that brings us all together. why is it
> that every single one of us (man, woman, gay, straight, short, tall, young,
> old, etc etc) relates to this music?? simple. it's because amy and emily put a
> lot of effort into making their lyrics send a message that _everyone_ can
> understand, and enjoy, (or cry over, or whatever). which brings me to my other

um, i believe i began this tangent with a similar statement to the
above.  i did not intend for there to be much discussion on this
because there is not much to discuss about it.  i like ig no matter
what their personal lives are like 'cause they're music appeals to
me.

anna

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subject:      $40 for reverse live/shades/3hits?

hi!
i've been offered reverse live, shades of indigo and the 3 hits/galileo
cds for $40.  is this a good offer? (i was thinking 'yes', but i'm not
altogether sure).

thanks for any help,

rebecca.


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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 18:57:28 -0600
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subject:      re: $40 for reverse live/shades/3hits?
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on tue, 31 oct 1995, smudge wrote:
> i've been offered reverse live, shades of indigo and the 3 hits/galileo
> cds for $40.  is this a good offer? (i was thinking 'yes', but i'm not
> altogether sure).

if you don't want them, i'll take them...for the same price. :)

eddie

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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 19:48:50 -0500
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from:         "parker b. hamilton 99" <hamilton@panther.middlebury.edu>
subject:      re: i love ig!!
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199510312316.saa45106@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

i listened to them and revelled in their music for years before i even
knew they were gay. ok, i admitt, i'm really naive, but i'm straight and i
guess it just never occurred to me that they were gay, until someone told me.

i didn't know either, until i had been listening for about three years!
isn't that what people mean when they tell us not to assume?  i (it
seems, like you lorinda) jsut never really thought about it.
long live naivete!
parker
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date:         tue, 31 oct 1995 19:15:09 -0600
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subject:      re: $40 for reverse live/shades/3hits?
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on tue, 31 oct 1995, lawyerman wrote:

> if you don't want them, i'll take them...for the same price. :)
>
> eddie

i'm afraid (well, not that afraid actually, even though it is
halloween...) i've taken up sherlyn's advice and ordered them.  sorry(ish).

rebecca.
(yes stacie, it was $40 for the lot...).
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subject:      just a thought!

happy halloween y'all!!!!!!!!!!

avital

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hi all,
just a little side note regarding "dedicated"...michelle malone preforms on
the album with another atlanta artist, dan baird, the song is "u.s.
blues"...she was on arista with drag the river at the time, as was
dedicated...just thought that you guys might be interested....:)
with dreams of immortality,
maggie
p.s.  i like long signatures...(lorinda and neily:)

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subject:      re: $40 for reverse live/shades/3hits?
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              "smudge" at oct 31, 95 12:39:33 pm

>
> i've been offered reverse live, shades of indigo and the 3 hits/galileo
> cds for $40.  is this a good offer? (i was thinking 'yes', but i'm not
> altogether sure).
>

good golly! you've hit the mother lode! ;)  congratulations!
-gin

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subject:      more thaaaaaaangs

lorinda, you're my hero too.  you're right up there with the woman from
the cafe downstairs who makes me coffee in the mornings, in fact. :)

okay, down to the real ig thi... er, thaaaangs:

is 'bury my heart at wounded knee' going to be released as a single in the
us?  might have to see about getting myself a copy if so.

and how the heck do they get 10 years of underground indigo into 66 minutes?
must have been pretty boring years... *ducking* :)  (i haven't watched
the video yet, i'm going to do the fiddle-around-with-tv thing tonight and
watch it... and hopefully will have honest-to-piq pal versions available
by next week.)

and wasn't there a video for 'land of canaan'?  and is there one for
bmhawk?

and can anyone post the words for 'finlandia'?

and if anyone wants to call me at work today, i'll put you on hold and
you can listen to '1200 curfews'... *grin*

off to find more caffeine... :)
sherlyn
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        okay and everything's going right...
and life has a funny way of helping you out when you think everything's gone
        wrong and everything blows up in your face..."
                        - alanis morissette, "ironic"

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subject:      netiquette (again)

i know someone already posted about this today, but i just wanted to
reiterate:

before you send a response to the entire list, please ask yourself
whether or not 600 people want to know it.  yes, i know it's not hard to
press the delete key, but just in the interest of keeping daily flow
under 200 messages...

thanks.
margaret

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i bought the demo single for bury my heart... yesterday.  it's got both
versions that are on the album and thin line (without the talky-bit bfore
it -- radio edit).
i'm worried...i thought it was only people like my brother that bought
the same songs twice, just because one's the single and...frightening
really.  what makes it worse is that i only realized it was a
demo version when i got it home, meaning (i assume) that none of the
money i paid for it will go to the honor the earth fund....arrgghhh!!

so, in answer to what i *think* was a question, bury my heart *is* going
to be released as a single in the us.

rebecca.

who is still feeling a bit chuffed about that $40 business...


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              "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
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organization: southern college of technology
subject:      re: ig bootlegs and welcome me
x-to:         amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
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> hi y'all,
hello! :)

> this is my first posting so please forgive any errors i may make and i'd
> really
> appreciate a nice nudge in the correct direction if i stray.  i just joined
> lastnight and after reading my mail this morning am glad that i did.
> there aren't
> a lot of people where i live that appreciate the ig as much as i do.  i don't
> know why except that maybe they haven't heard of them...pity.  anyway,
> i don't have much (anything?) to trade but would really love to get more
> ig music.  can someone help me out here?  thanx and i hope to hear from
> y'all soon.
are you at michigan tech?

anyway.  i have a few ig boots, and i'll attach my boot list to this
message.  if there's anything you're interested in, let me know.  if you
don't have anything to trade, i don't mind making copies for you.  just
send me the right number of blanks and a sase, and i'll get them back to
you. :)

nadyne.

tori amos: under the covers i (100)
  whole lotta love/thank you, a case of you, wrapped around your
  finger, for emily wherever i may find her, it's a happy day, whoomp
  there it is, she's leaving home, imagine, on a saturday morning
  1963, love song, honey, purple rain, the boys in the trees,
  american pie/smells like teen spirit, famous blue raincoat,
  sentimental journey, little drummer boy, summertime, landslide,
  sweet home alabama/whoomp reprise, ain't no sunshine, ring my bell
  interlude, angie, past the mission, tiny dancer, thank you reprise.

tori amos: under the covers ii (90)
  bad company, when sunny gets blue, i'm on fire, war, rock
  on/girl, assholes are cheap today, all things considered medley,
  the gossip on trent, almight fortress/amazing grace, candle in the
  wind, sister janet, home on the range, cloud on my tongue, sweet
  dreams, daisy dead petals, take to the sky.

tori amos: little earthquakes demos and outtakes (90)
  crucify, winder, happy phantom, take to the sky, leather, sarah
  sylvia cynthia stout, little drummer boy, crucify, thoughts, song
  for eric, mary, silent all these years, leather, the pool, china.

tori amos: me and a piano (90)
  numbness, crucify, precious things, happy phantom, leather, here.
  in my head, little earthquatkes, whole lotta love, welcome, me and
  a gun, winter, smells like teen spirit, mother, tear in your hand,
  song for eric.

indigo girls (amy ray): color me grey 1982 (60)
  scared to say we're friends, nashville, fallin' star, carry me
  away, anyway i love you, clues to you , always be there, color me
  grey, free through eternity, passin' time, losin' touch, erase the
  pain, anyone but myself.

indigo girls: blue food (60)
  if you live like that, crazy game, holy city, weakness in me,
  never stop, peace song, draw the line, malachy's, the untitled
  song, running, from the cold, no way to treat a friend, i wanna be
  your lover, american tune.

indigo girls: purple parrot 1986 (90)
  no way to treat a friend, if you live like that, the weakness in
  me, love of the common, house at pooh corner, danny's song, holy
  city, never stop, hammond song, drift away, love the one you're
  with, draw the line, girls talk, the water is wide, the untitled
  song, everybody's waiting..., crazy game, up on the roof, country
  road, it's too late, summertime.

indigo girls: decatur in the square 9.5.87 and wrek 17.5.87 (100+90)

indigo girls: denver, colorado 22.10.90 (110)
  welcome me, world falls, hammer and nail, crazy game, pushin' the
  needle too far, you and me of the 10,000 wars, watershed,
  southland in the springtime, kid fears, girl with the weight of the
  world in her hands, keeper of my heart, closer to fine, hand me
  downs, prince of darkness, love's recovery, mona lisas and mad
  hatters, get together.

indigo girls: alexandria, virginia 25.11.90 (90)
  welcome me, world falls, love's recovery, hammer and nail, crazy
  game, hand me downs, you and me of the 10,000 wars, watershed,
  southland in the springtime, play it again sam, romeo and juliet,
  the moon and st. christopher, closer to fine, prince of darkness,
  strange fire.

indigo girls: rochester institute of technology (90)

indigo girls: newport folk festival 7.8.94 (90)
  fugitive, wood song, world falls, power of two, joking, galileo,
  center stage, you and me of the 10,000 wars, dog dreams, reunion,
  least complicated, chickenman, touch me fall, closer to fine.

indigo girls: brisbane, australia 22.2.95 (110)
  fugitive, wood song, jonas and ezekial, least complicated, center
  stage, love will come to you, reunion, virginia woolf, dead man's
  hill, hammer and nail, jacob's ladder/this train revised, power of
  two, chickenman, galileo, kid fears, ghost, touch me fall/coat of
  many colors, closer to fine.

indigo girls: oscar mayer theatre, madison, wisconsin 8.5.95 (90)
  three hits, least complicated, world falls, let it be me, tried
  to be true, power of two, fugitive, you and me of the 10,000 wars,
  jonas and ezekial, wood song, jacob's ladder/this train revised,
  mystery, bartender's blues, touch me fall/cortex the killer,
  galileo, love's recovery, land of canaan, closer to fine.

indigo girls: complicated girls (90)
  galileo, reunion, least complicated, bury my heart at wounded
  knee, power of two, tried to be true, midnight train to georgia,
  closer to fine, least complicated, chickenman, closer to fine, wood
  song, dead man's hill, galileo, reunion.

indigo girls: cover me grey (100)

pink floyd: another side of the moon (60).
  astronomy domine, candy and a currant bun, apples and oranges, it
  would be so nice, interstellar overdrive, scream thy last scream,
  heart beat pig meat, crumbling land, embryo, point me at the sky,
  come in no. 51 your time is up, mademoisselle knobs.

rem: club washington 18.3.83 (90).
  (don't go back to) rockville, south central rain, have you ever
  seen the rain?, gardening at night, 9-9, catapult, pilgrimage, 7
  chinese brothers, laughing wolves, romance, sitting still,
  1,000,000, west of the fields, radio free europe, last date, ages
  of you, we walk, carnival of sorts.

rem: rising (90)
  wolves lower, moral kiosk, laughing, pilgrimage, moon river,
  there she goes again, 7 chinese brothers, talk about the passion,
  sitting still, harborcoat, catapult, pretty persuasion, gardening
  at night, 9-9, west of the fields, radio free europe, we walk,
  1,000,000.

rem: covering them (90)
  california dreamin', 8 miles high, road runner, pale blue eyes, do you
  wanna be a rock 'n' roll star?, femme fatale, see no evil, there she goes
  again, paint it black, love is all around, funtime, you ain't goin'
  nowhere, one, mrs. robinson, sweet jane, after hours.

rem: from the borderline 1991 (2*90)
  world leader pretend, half a world away, fretless, the one i
  love, hello in there, my youngest son came home today,
  jackson/dallas, disturbance at the heron house, belong, low, love
  is all around, you are the everything, swan swan h, radio song,
  perfect circle, endgame, pop song 89, losing my religion, fall on
  me, tom's diner, you ain't goin' nowhere, get up, moon river, half
  a world away, swan swan h, belong, driver 8, low, fretless, losing
  my religion.

rem: automatically live (90)
  drive, monty got a raw deal, everybody hurts, man on the moon, losing my
  religion, country feedback, begin the begin, fall on me, me in honey,
  finest worksong, drive, love is all around, funtime/radio free europe,
  losing my religion.

rem: nightswimming, greatest hits live (90)
  stand, orange crush, it's the end of the world as we know it (and
  i feel fine), finest worksong, radio free europe, (don't go back
  to) rockville, south central rain, the one i love, fall on me,
  superman, driver 8, talk about the passion, radio song, belong,
  losing my religion, drive, everybody hurts, man on the moon.


looking for: any rem boot with nightswimming and/or the wrong child.


terms: i use maxell xl-iis or tdk sas.  no high-speed dubbing.
i prefer trades, but if you send me tapes and sase, i'll usually be
willing to make copies for you.


on the way:
rem: out of time demos; reality in colour; acoustic series; athens, ga
  4.10.80; life's rich pagent demos; athens, ga 1992.


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