lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-01d


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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 13:15:09 +0800
reply-to:     glee <b3102097@cc.ntu.edu.tw>
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from:         glee <b3102097@cc.ntu.edu.tw>
subject:      re: the b*tchy threads
in-reply-to:  <pine.a32.3.91.960120201047.53493c-100000@login1.email.unc.edu>

amy, a bitch? well, aren't there also some  call oprah, or alanis
morissette, or even tori amos a bitch? i think we'd know if someone's a
bitch...

y'all (i'm not even american but just love it:)) should meet my
composition teacher; she's a real mordacious bitch.

gavin

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 01:05:34 -0500
reply-to:     nicole m piche <nmpiche@christa.unh.edu>
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from:         nicole m piche <nmpiche@christa.unh.edu>
subject:      about first impressions...

i think that when i get a new ig's cd, or any cd for that matter, the
best thing to do is listen to it a few times while i am doing something
else so it's on in the background.  then after a few listens the tune is
sort of familliar and then it is good to really listen to the songs on
the cd.  i have to agree that the ig's songs tend to grow on me.  i
usually like them at first, especially e's songs, but then i keep
listening to them and i get a deeper meaning out of them.  as i listen
more and more i enjoy them more.  for instance take the song mystery.  i
liked that song at first but then i started to listen to it more and
more because it was my good friend's favorite song off so.  i began to
appreciate it even more and now it is one of my favorites too.  i also
like a's songs more after listening to them for awhile, they tend to grow
on me.  i really do not find it possible to dislike an ig song, no matter
how many times i have heard it.  okay, i am off to listen to so now.
        nicole

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date:         sat, 20 jan 1996 22:23:52 -0800
reply-to:     joan reale <putterx@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         joan reale <putterx@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: b*tch thread
x-to:         indigo-girls@netspace.org.i.couldn't.have.said.it.better.than.dan.he.was.right.on.the.money.also,
              from.all.my.personal.experience.of.having.met.up.with.amy.i@ix.netcom.com

can definitely say amy is not a bitch. once, at the bottom line in n.y.
(a verrry small intimate club), amy came out to talk with fans outside
after the show. it was close to her birthday and she sent someone
inside to get pieces of her birthday sent out to us. she also showed
her tattoo off to a fan who asked to see it (well it sorta turned into
a big football huddle). on numerous occasions i have seen her pose for
pictures and sign autographs  before shows and after them. i'm sure
that being on the road for long periods of time can be quite tiring yet
it never seems that amy (or emily) ever take the time to talk to fans
out of a sense of obligation but out of a genuine desire to do so. fans
can become overeager at times, cross a certain line, or just expect too
much from them.their privacy should be respected!
                                           peace, love, and music
                                           karen(putterx@ix.netcom.com)

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 00:33:10 -0500
reply-to:     amanda e johnson <aej192@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
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from:         amanda e johnson <aej192@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
subject:      "b*itch"

it's not a matter of "fucking guts".  it's a matter of 'fucking tact'.
;)

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date:         sat, 20 jan 1996 22:55:40 -0800
reply-to:     joan reale <putterx@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         joan reale <putterx@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: first impressions/hearing new things in songs
x-to:         indigo-girls@netspace.org.i.have.been.called.a.music.snob.by.my.sisteri.tell.her.she's

wrong, that i just have better taste than her :) (actually we're total
opposites and don't agree on anything). as a musician i had believed
(not so consciously) that i heard music differently than let's say my
non musician friends. or maybe i thought my appreciation of music was
greater because i could hear things like key changes, rhythm changes,
know what notes were being played etc. well i was soooooo wrong! it
took one of my non-musician friends to point out to me something i
never heard before in cedar tree. did anyone notice the piece of
classical music being played in the insrumental break? (on guitar, the
last few bars before amy starts singing again). i'm not really sure
what it is (ode to joy?) it took a couple of listenings but now it
stands out clearly. it was an ever so humbling experience for me.
                                          karen
                                          putterx@ix.netcom.com

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 18:40:57 +1100
reply-to:     petite piquet <piquet@geko.net.au>
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from:         petite piquet <piquet@geko.net.au>
subject:      wow, freaky random-play thingy
x-cc:         cuffy@desktop.com.au

hi all,

for some reason i feel compelled to share this story with you...

well, it's not a story but something odd that happened - i've got a whole
bunch of ig albums in my stereo on random play right now.  earlier on, it
chose "power of two" from 1200c, and then straight after, it played po2
from swampo.  a second ago it was playing "love's recovery" from 1200c...
which segued straight into... you got it - "love's recovery" from ig.

is that wierd or what?
:)
sherlyn
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"someday will i sing the mountains that carry me away, away from home, and
hometown boys like you?"       - dar williams, "travelling again"

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 04:45:57 -0600
reply-to:     greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
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from:         greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      ig burnout and midnight train guy

last week i wrote:

>just wondering what everyone else does when even their favorite ig songs
>get >old.  i'm burnt out--help me!  never thought i'd say that...

this week i write:

*slap*

i am renegging (sp?) on the above comments.  scratch all that was said
about ig burnout.  it just doesn't exist.  after receiving 5 new boots
(margaret-the 7 month trade has ended--thanks), i am revived.  i guess it
was a very temporary lull.

now for a question:  i was listening to midnight train to georgia on my new
boot (new haven 95) and this guy sings in the background.  his voice was
quite irritating to me and i wondered who he was.  i think a referred to
him as a guitar tech or somethin.  really does not fit in to the song at
all..in fact makes the song quite annoying.  gail ann dorsey on the other
hand has a beautiful voice. so who is that guy?  i can't recall if he sings
on the 1200c version.  thanks for any help.  g'nite y'all

greg

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 22:01:14 +0800
reply-to:     glee <b3102097@cc.ntu.edu.tw>
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from:         glee <b3102097@cc.ntu.edu.tw>
subject:      re: first impressions/hearing new things in songs
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.960121215119.3636a-100000@ccsun3>

>  i'm pretty positive that it's beethoven's music...
>
>  for those of you who find me rather typative lately it's because i'm on
> my winter vacation now:)
>
>  gavin
>
>   sat, 20 jan 1996, joan reale wrote:
>
> > never heard before in cedar tree. did anyone notice the piece of
> > classical music being played in the insrumental break? (on guitar, the
> > last few bars before amy starts singing again). i'm not really sure
> > what it is (ode to joy?) it took a couple of listenings but now it
>

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 12:02:56 -0500
reply-to:     water <water@mindspring.com>
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subject:      viva la diva in creative loafing
x-to:         atlartists@monsterbit.com

so, all.. i'm sitting here putting off the inevitable of cleaning my apt...
so i figured one way was to share with you the review of viva la diva's
greatest hits, vol 1 from atlanta's cl this week.. yes, cl has done both an
interivew and a post release party review, but after reading this review at
work, (while recieving many looks from my coworkers as i proceeded to read
it outloud) i figured i would post this here--

from creative loafing, jan 20, 1995

        viva la diva
greatest hits volume 1
    moksha records


    if the band viva la diva was a mixed drink, they'd be a brandy
alexander: smooth, creamy white, and delicious-- but with a fearsome wallop
that kicks when you least expect it.   their debut cd, boldy titled greatest
hits volume 1, seduces the listener fromt eh first track forward.  it's
songs slide seamlessly into each otehr with the same dynamics and aura of
improvisational magic that makes viva la diva's live performaces so
electrifying.  at one moment singer cooper seay is denouncing "corporate
cowboys in the wild, wild west" with london calling intensity as wayne glass
paces his drums at an omnious canter.  and on the next track seay delivers
the erotically charged "fall" in a beathy whisper, eluding passion at a near
volatile level.  guitarist candi jiosne provides searing hooks on numbers
such as "silver bullets" (a re-recorded version of the band's "hit" single),
and she goes full out in "amsterdam", a stunning experiment filled with
distortion, fuzztone tempo changes, and impressive lead breaks by bassist
jan dykes.  the lovely "smart fools" suggests fleetwood mac, and "mccartney"
gleams with an irresistible "la-la" chorus.  but the greatest of these hits
is "when you're ready," 10 minutes of raging rock poetry with indigo girl
amy ray on guest vocals and jane scarpantoni on cello.  it's an eerily
intense seduction acheived to the accompaniment of qivering guitar notes and
rapidly accelerating drums.  on the left channel seay speaks of swans
diving, while on the right ray asks if she's "ready to feel beautiful".  the
climax of this song-- in which the voices and instruments, screaming,
raging, triping fury is, literally, orgasmic. (this record outa come with a
warning label saying, "do not attempt to operate an automobile while
listening to track 10.")  the disc concludes with a hidden 11th cut, an
uptempo song about loneliness and love.  it runs two and a half minutes,
just enough time for a cigarette before rising to hit the replay button.  --
gregory nicoll


yep, all, that's it..  while in the mood to go listen to some matthew kahler
on my ride home from work, after reading this review i had the sudden urge
to put in vld and rock the way to my abode..

on the 25th of this month my new roommate will finally get a chance to see
this band live (ha, i've gotten her hooked to them already and she's only
been living with me for a week)- when they play at the dark horse tavern, on
n. highland ave in atlanta- with mercy dates and lift.. but we'll have to
miss them on the 26th at sluggo's in pensecola, fl and the 27th at club
instanbul in new orleans, la..


enjoy all-- and don't forget about their website at : http://monsterbit.com
-- find out the latest from the band themselves at this exciting site..

take care and don't forget to *smile*

water

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http://www.mindspring.com/~water


".. better learn how to starve the emptiness and feed the hunger.."
        -emily saliers

"..every five months or so i look back on my life and have a good laugh.."
        -emily saliers

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 09:03:21 -0800
reply-to:     laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         laurie higgins <stompbox@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      *viva la diva album reviews*

        here are 2 different reviews of the recently released cd by
local atlanta band viva la diva.  one of them is taken from the local
paper creative loafing, the other is from ur--university reporter, one
is a good review and one is not...tell me what you think...

gregory nicoll--creative loafing

    if the band viva la diva was a mixed drink, they'd be a brandy
alexander:  smooth, creamy white, and delicious -- but with a fearsome
wallop that kicks when you least expect it.  their debut cd, boldy
titled greatest hits volume 1, seduces the listener from the first
track forward.  its songs slide seamlessly into each other with the
same dynamics and aura of improvisational magic that makes viva la
diva's live preformances so electrifying.  at one moment singer cooper
seay is denouncing "corporate cowboys in the wild, wild west" with
london calling intensity as wayne glass paces his drums at an ominous
canter.  and on the next track seay delivers the erotically charged
"fall" in a breathy whisper, exuding passion at a near volatile level.
guitarist candi jiosne provides searing hooks on numbers such as
"silver bullets" (a re-recorded version of the band's "hit" single),
and she goes full out on "amsterdam," a stunning experiment filled with
distortion, fuzztone, tempo changes and impressivel lead breaks by
bassist jan dykes.  the lovely "smart fools" suggests fleetwood mac,
and "mccartney" gleams with a irrisistible "la-la" chorus.  but the
greatest of these hits is "when you're ready," 10 minutes of raging
rock poetry with indigo girl amy ray on guest vocals and jane
scarpantoni on cello.  it's an eerily intense seduction achieved to the
accompaniment of quivering guitar notes and rapidly accelerating drums.
on the left channel seay speaks of swans diving, while on the right ray
asks if she's "ready to feel beautiful."  the climax of this song -- in
which the voices and intruments erupt in the screaming, raging,
tripping fury is, literally, orgasmic.  (the record oughta come with a
warning label saying, "do not attempt to operate an automobile while
listening to track 10."  the disc concludes with a hidden 11th cut, an
uptempo song about loneliness and love.  it runs two and half minutes,
just enough time for a cigerette before rising to hit the replay
button.


david peisner -- ur-university reporter

    greatest hits vol. 1, viva la diva's highly anticipated debut, is
equal parts patti smith and patti smythe (she of the mid-80's classic
"the warrior").  that is to say, there is some serious meat here, but
it is draped in a generous portion of cheese.  for the most part, the
album shoots rock straight from  the hip, but it seems to lack the kind
of grit that separates the good from the fair in the world of rock..
it's got a few too many easy-to-recognize classic rock riffs, and not
enough spontaneity.  without a doubt, songs like "fall" and "smart
fools" are not difficult to listen to, but i'm not so sure that that's
a good thing.  "silver bullets," "under my wheels;" well, hell, most of
the album is just too polished, too clean.  i mean, when you have to
resort to a simulated orgasm (on "when you're ready") to generate some
excitement (and it does), you have fallen to the level of samantha fox
and showgirls cast.  that can't be a good thing.

.........back to me again....so, what do you think the second guy is
doing differently than the first guy?  did these two listen to the same
cd?....i wonder... :)

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 10:18:21 -0800
reply-to:     stanley kulesza <stankul@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         stanley kulesza <stankul@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: apology

happy sunday!
well...jmo...but...when i read the -quote- by amy...i knew it was by
amy...it was a -quote-...and i enjoyed that sue included it in her
letter.  just like any other quote others have at the end of their
posts...they are reminders of a & e.  something the person quoting them
has decided to take with them and carry it, and share it because it
said something to them...it had an effect on them hoever small or big.
reading that specific quote which sue included reminded me of the
chickenman monologue, which i thoroughly enjoyed...and brightened up my
day...for me.  i enjoy reading the various quotes at the ends of the
posts because it tells me something about the person also.  well...i've
babbled long enough.  hope you all understood my view point and better
understand sue's.

*peace*
    em

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 14:59:12 -0500
reply-to:     "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      nigc...

thank you all for the feedback!  i just re-subscribed and hopefully that
will clear things up, or else i might have to kick some listserv booty!
i'm sorry that i missed all the stuff about amy and her tatoo.. y'all
will have to fill me in!  hopefully i'll be getting more messages soon.
later all,
mandy

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 15:24:25 -0500
reply-to:     lynn <lmartin@center.colgate.edu>
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from:         lynn <lmartin@center.colgate.edu>
subject:      nothing in particular

hi everyone-
        just to warn you- this post is going to say nothing of real
interest.  i rarely post, so this is one of i'm-bored-on-a-sunday-after-
noon type of things.  i've only been back to school for a week, funny
how it seems longer.  at any rate, i will highlight my vacation for you
all:
*i went to "disc depot", a used cd place in newtown square (close to
philadelphia) just to look around at what they had.  this is the type
of place where the owner of the store is there 24 hours a day with
her dog.  so i go to the ig section and see the regular- ig, swamp,etc.
i am about to leave when something catches my eye- amy ray in a dress-
a copy of "nothing to hide."  of course i bought it in a second even
though i am terribly broke.  the owner gave it to me for $19.99 even
though it was $24.99, just because i was so excited.
*i recreated a scene from "watershed" with fellow listmember maggie
poulos- almost accidently. mind you, this was not the first time
we've done this.
now for back to school news:
*i was laying in bed at 2am the other night trying to sleep when
i hear "galileo" faintly in the background.  was it my dream? no.
there were some girls upstairs from me belting it out at the top
of their lungs.  after "galileo" was over they played "closer to
fine." even though i dearly wanted sleep i had to just laugh
and turn over.
okay, now my reaction to list news:
*amy ray is not a bitch- she is a human being.  give her a break.
*i know what amy's tattoo and "chickenman" are all about so i won't
inquire about this.
*lorinda- you love to compare tmf to hair- i just think that you are
the funniest!
i told you all that i had nothing of interest to share. :)
                        happy sunday,
                        lynn (who incidentally used amy ray's words,
                                "gotta learn to respect what we don't
                                understand" on one of her final exams :)

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 20:38:49 gmt
reply-to:     andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
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from:         andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
subject:      boots

dear all

last week someone posted a list, with comments, of ig boots currently
available, like a fool i've lost it! can someone out there cure my
frustration at this sad occurence?

happy daze


andrew

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 17:12:19 est
reply-to:     mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      1200 curfews sales figures

the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how

live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,

they listed the sales of several recent live albums.

they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.

i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 16:32:36 -0500
reply-to:     "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      yey!!!

i'm back!!!!  woohooo!!!!  i think i need ot be filled in on the amy ray
gossip that's been goin' down around here...
-mandy

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 17:17:39 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      vacation new releases

i went home for holiday vacation and left my e-mail behind in the process.  now i am seeing postings about "nothing to hide" and "in with the out crowd" (which i hear might have a chickenman stream of consciousness??!!).

could someone be so kind as to fill me in as to their content and relationship to the ig?

thanks.

alycia

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everything is with you always.

                             amy & emily
                             "least complicated" video

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 17:46:48 -0500
reply-to:     "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures
x-to:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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on sun, 21 jan 1996, mr rodney s wicker wrote:

gggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

> the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how
>
> live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,
>
> they listed the sales of several recent live albums.
>
> they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.
>
> i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
> albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!
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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 18:21:11 -0500
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subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures

"isn't it ironic, don't you think"

well...looks like good ole rolling stone can forget to mention ig when they
are at newport, make a small blurb about honor the earth, but somehow find
space to say that their new album has only sold 161,000..........hmmmmmm

kate
who wonders if she'll get the same grief sue did for quoting
alanis.....hmmmmm

>the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how

live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,

they listed the sales of several recent live albums.

they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.

i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 18:30:59 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures

>they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.

let's each go buy four more to give to our friends. i'm not sure where i'll
get the money to do this. i may have to resort to a life of crime, but... :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "the apathy of time laughs in my face
bethlehem, pa             you say each life has its place. -e.s.
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> >they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.

did rs even bother mentioning this is a double-cd? i think that would hurt
sells even more than it being a live album (since it costs a lot more than
a single cd).

i told my friend to get 1200c and she said "it's sooo expensive" -- she
likes ig, just not enough to pay the price for a double-cd. i told her i'd
buy it for her when i get paid at the end of the month. :) i'm hoping she
will see beyond "closer to fine" which is the only song she plays by
them. ahem. :)

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 18:06:09 -0700
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subject:      bmhawk video and chickenman performance
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o.k. so i was in the school cafetria eating my dinner. i then look up at
a machine that plays videos if you feed it money. i go up to try this
thing and see what video's they have. mostly cheesy r&b and tacky
alternative bands. then i see in the corner of my eye "indigo girls-bury
my heart at wounded knee". i go into sporadic convulstions. i put in
my dollar and watch the video. they were so damn cool! they had on
sunglasses and were dancing around with their electric guitars. then they
had little buisness guys running around at variuos intervals along with
clips of indian reservations. it ended. so then i slid in another dollar
and watched it again. well to kinda get to the point i ended up watching
it five times over. everyone just thought i was a freak but i really
didn't care. now everytime i eat i make sure i have a buck for the machine.
  could it possibly be the girls are finally getting the popularity they
deserve? maybe if the mtv would show the damn video sales for 1200
curfews would skyrocket. but then again, maybe i'm just getting my hopes up.
  also last night i got up enough courage to play "chickenman" with a
freind of mine at a local coffeehouse for an open-mic night. it ended up
being ten minutes long because we sang a verse or two over after a few
improvs. i got some very enthusiastic and bizzare responses. some people
were enthralled by the depth and musicality of the song. others were like
"what the hell was that, play more nirvana or something". but on the
whole it was a cool experience.
it's been quite the indigo week-end and i just wanted to share my
experiences with you guys. thanks for readin'.
ben

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subject:      ig covers in concert
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once upon a time, list member angela ciesla asked us all what covers we
had seen ig do in concert.  unfortunately, no one really picked up on
this thread, so i'm taking it upon myself to make the effort; i think it
sounds like a really interesting one.  at my one and only ig concert
(right here in springfield, mo last march), a and e performed "what's so
funny ('bout peace, love, and understanding)" by elvis costello w/ bfe and
"what's the buzz?" from jcs.  they also did "jacob's ladder" as the intro
to ttr, of course.  i also *swear* i remember them doing at least part of
"peace frog" by the doors.  did anyone else see this at another concert or
am i just crazy?!?
jenn
jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu

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i finally think i found the name of the song i've been lookin' for. it's
called "the water is wide". i remember hearing it in concert and falling
in love with it. if anyone has it on tape mail me back and we'll set up a
trade or i'll give ya tapes or something of that sort.
thanks,
ben

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date:         sun, 21 jan 1996 18:50:40 -0700
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subject:      re: y'all
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9601191019.a9250-0100000@merle.acns.nwu.edu>

it's funny - here where i live in ruidoso, nm, there's a lot of texas
influence (from the tourists and all.) so we hear "y'all" with some
frequency around here, and when i moved here a few years ago after not
being used to hearing it, i swore i'd never use that word. well. i
started listening to ig about a year ago, and in that time "y'all" has
somehow worked itself into my vocabulary. :) ah, well. :)

cran

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hey...
this is my first posting, and i am really new to all of this, but i will
continue despite the fact that i am really nervous for some reason...kind
of like my fear of reading aloud in front of the class....except that i
respect all of you much more than them...so without further ado...
my dad brought home the first ig album when i was 13 years old, and i
loved it from day one.  as an aspiring writer even back then, i found the
lyrics haunting.  at that point only sylvia plath and anne sexton had
moved me to a level of tears as i was in the middle of adolescence, and
as i grew older, i found an irresistible craving for ig music.  they
helped me through many years of parental hardship and now, as i am 21 and
coming truly into my own, i am glad both the new and old albums are there
to help me along in life.  all i have to do is turn them on and close my
eyes...what an example of feminine power to grow up with.  they have
been truly significant in shaping my ideas and dreams of what great women
can be. thanks for letting me get all of that out...
all ig albums are great from the first listen as far as i am
concerned...but for many of my friends it took two or three times...they
are really...

thinking of you all out there, listening with me...
amy marie

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hey y'all (i'm from texas and have the distinct pleasure of using that
word in my vocabulary....why would anyone want to aoid it?)  i was
watching the us figure skating championships and heard the igs during the
program when they were discussing the backgrounds of the skaters.  it was
great to hear the little snippits of songs i love so much......that's all.
and i also wanted to say hi to my dear intimatestrangr!  --jamie

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subject:      touch me fall inserts
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hey y'all,

picking up on an earlier comment that intrigued me... it seems ig, on the
last tour, were inserting all kinds of different things into the
instrumental sections of touch me fall(!!?) i can't remember what the
original poster last week said _she_ heard, but i distinctly remember them
splicing in a melody line from "in the hall of the mountain king" by
classical composer edvard grieg!!!!!  i was so amazed.  i mean, they're
brilliant and it didn't surprise me that they'd do something like that, it
was more the "good lord, i wish i could think of things like that!" kind of
amazement.  for those with musical instruments nearby who don't remember
that tune offhand, it goes basically like this (in a minor:)

a b c d/e c e   /d# b d#   /d bb d  /a b c d/e c e (high)a/g e c e/g...


guitar tab:
----------------|----------------|----------------|---------------
----------------|----------------|----------------|---------------
----------------|----------------|--------------2-|0-------0------
------0-2---2---|1---1---0---0---|------0-2---2---|--2---2--------
0-2-3-----3-----|--2-------1-----|0-2-3-----3-----|----3----------
----------------|----------------|----------------|---------------

***also known as the "sneaking around theme" from countless bugs bunny
cartoons! (grin)

anyone else recall little inserts from tmf in concert???


scot

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ok ... where were all of you .... only found one person saturday at the
birchmere (hey kate !!!!!!) ...

well -- for those of you who missed it, pick up the new cd "colors of live"
recorded live at the birchmere a couple of months back ... all new material
except for the live version of "tears i cry" ...

c'mon  y'all <g> {oh i had to say it ...}  -- you don't know what your
missing !!!! it was a pcked house !!!!!!!!! ... and jammin' --> we were told
that it was a "listening" club and that we were supposed to keep quiet ...
yeah right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the place was rockin' !!!!!!!!!!!!

ok ... going now .. i need sleep after this mini-road trip ..

chris

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on sun, 21 jan 1996, scot ninnemann wrote:

> picking up on an earlier comment that intrigued me... it seems ig, on the
> last tour, were inserting all kinds of different things into the
> instrumental sections of touch me fall(!!?) i can't remember what the
> original poster last week said _she_ heard, but i distinctly remember them
> splicing in a melody line from "in the hall of the mountain king" by
> classical composer edvard grieg!!!!!  i was so amazed.  i mean, they're

darn, and i thought that they only did that at the sydney show, as an
improvisational thingy. :)

> anyone else recall little inserts from tmf in concert???

neil youngs' "cortez the killer", patti smith (patty smythe?)'s "free
money", and of course, amy's new song, "problem child".  oh, and amy's
amazing freewheeling stream of consciousnesses (tm *grin*).

folks, we need a faq, or rather, an updated version of the current faq.  is
anyone working on updating?  if so, thanks. :)  if not, does anyone want
to volunteer to help me update the current faq?

cheers all,
sherlyn

ps - dar williams' new album, "mortal city", should be instores january 23rd,
for those of you lucky enough to live in a country where people actually
know who dar williams is... :)
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subject:      howdy, y'all

        i know some of you may have noticed when i was on the list
earlier this fall, but had to unsubscribe due to computer problems :( i
am very happy to be back!! i'm not too good at contributing, but i love
reading everything you people know about ig... i never cease to be
amazed! i know this is something _you all_ have heard before, but i love
1200 curfews and am pushing my floormates to the brink by blasting "bury
my heart" and "tangled up in blue" at all hours of the night. hooray! no
better way to force recognition of their talent upon the ignorant than
to  assualt their eardrums daily :) already i've won a few converts.
btw, i have resolved to sell my soul to obtain tickets the next time ig
tours (unfortunately i'll have to wait a while). y'all are great- you
know someone who loves and understands ig can't be a horrible person at
heart!
                                fight on!
amy and emily in '96  :) :)
                                another emily

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hey y'all!

i've been away for a semester so i'm just getting back to the list, but if you have a couple minutes i could really use some of your opinions. i'm taking
a class right now on women and music. we have to give two song presentations
(play the song then critic them acc. to feminist standards) and i'm doing
is there anybody here (disappear fear) and romeo & juliet. first i'm going to
play the dire straits version, then amy's version and compare the two. now,
i feel that the ds version is very much third person, whereas as amy starts
out 3rd person but quickly becomes first person. this gives the song lesbian
connotations which indirectly corresponds with the plot of the play. let me
explain myself: romeo and juliet in the play were obviously star-crossed
lovers and their society (their families) would not condone them being
together. similarly, our society does not permit gays and lesbians to be
together. but, unlike the characters in the play who died for their love
and for their cause, juliet in the song loved romeo ("you said i love you
like the stars above, gonna love you till l die") but could no longer live
such a difficult lifestyle, whereas romeo in the song did not care about
society. now is everyone following me or am i really stretching here?

aside from all that, there are a few problems i am having in specific parts
of the song. for instance, why does the song start out so lighthearted,
become so agonizing and passionate, and then end almost as lightheartedly as
it began? also, how can i interpret "i dreamed your dream for you, and now
you're dream is real"? someone on the list (theresa i think) was discussing
"the movie song" some time ago. could someone please explain this to me?
first of all i don't -know- what it is, and secondly what is this about amy
singing this line like the tune in westside story? if someone could explain
this to me so that i can explain this to my class i will be greatly indebted
to them!

so if you can e-mail me by monday night or earlier tuesday morning (i have
to give my presentation at 1:30 on tues.) i would really appreciate the input.
i realize this is short notice. if you have any insightful comments (even
about the music itself) that i haven't mentioned, that would be extremely
helpful too.

thank you so much

jen
richmond96@alison.sbc.edu

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subject:      a horrible rumor

i just heard froma friend that indigo girls broke up...i think that this is a
rumor but can someone reassure me that this is not true...sorry if anyone
has heart failure..it is just what i heard...josh

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on mon, 22 jan 1996 jrshade@cc.owu.edu wrote:
> i just heard froma friend that indigo girls broke up...i think that this is a
> rumor but can someone reassure me that this is not true...sorry if anyone
> has heart failure..it is just what i heard...josh

ok, i know a million people will reply to this but i just want to say
it would help if you stated the source that your friend read or heard
this. i cant imagine you not asking where s/he heard this.

also, i am guessing your friend heard they were taking a year off from
touring or recording and s/he misinterpreted what they were actually doing.

it is also possible your friend was teasing, since they undoubtedly know
how much you like ig. my brother loves to tease me about u2 for the same
reason (making up outrageous lies just to see my reaction).

no offense intended here, but there are some people on this list who seem
to be really in touch with the music scene where a&e are, and they would
most likely have heard about this before your friend did (unless your
friend has some amazing connections but you'd have cited them i think if
s/he did).

kristina

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subject:      re: a horrible rumor

you can't just write something like that and expect to get away with
it

"i just heard froma friend that indigo girls broke up...i think that this is a
rumor but can someone reassure me that this is not true...sorry if anyone
has heart failure..it is just what i heard...josh"

josh...what are you up to?  where did you get this info from?


please...someone tell me it's not true and that it's just a sly way
of encouraging lively debates on the list.

yours in absolute depression

helene

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subject:      thankyou...

i forgot to say in my last message...thanks to all of you out there
that have suggested pages on the net with pictures and things.  i'll
try them out in my lunch hour...otherwise i'll not get any work done
this morning.

i still haven't recovered from the shocking news from josh...not the
thing you need to hear first thing on a monday morning.  i hope
someone clears it up soon...but i guess i'll have to wait until this
afternoon when all of you in the states wake up!!

until then...

helene

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on jan 19 mr. neil hunt said:

>whereas they tried to change all along the watchtower
>and make it their own and ruined it completely.

i've heard this said before and i don't agree.  i think they did a
great job with it. i prefer it to dylan or hendricks.

jmho
gina

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 10:13:02 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      rumor probably is not true...

this is my logic:
     if it were true, we would have already heard rumors from several
differenty sources, possibly hear gossip thru rdr or at eddies attic, or
some sort of thing like that. if they did break up, it would be in the
atlanta constituion (is that the right name) as news, which means ten
listmembers would have posted the entire article to the list, ect.
    not to mention that if they did brewwak up, they would be in violation
from their contact with epic, probably have to cancel dates that they are
all ready scheduled to play.
   so relax, it probably didnt happen!
(i hope!!!)
mike r.

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 09:21:47 -0600
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subject:      mixed-up lyrics, etc.

howdy all-
                i know it's been a while since we've done the mixed-up
lyrics thingy, but i wanted to share one with you that i just remembered
over the weekend. i was the youth director at a church in my hometown
(greenwood, ms) and the other youth worker and i were taking the kids on a
work week, a la habitat for humanity. both of us being big-time ig fans we
decided to call it "the first annual hammer and nail appalachian work week"
giving full credit for the title to a&e. as our show of respect and
gratitude for the message, we taught the kids h&n at our first
organizational meeting. there was only one problem- as we typed out the
lyrics for them to read we misspelled one itsy-bitsy word. it wasn't even
that bad, really, because the misspelling was actually a word as well! just
try this out for kicks...

        i look behind my ears for the green
        and even my seat smells clean (notice the lack of a w in sweat)
        glare off the white hurts my eyes...

you can imagine our surprise at a room full of high school and junior high
kids screaming this out at the top of their lungs, adult volunteers
suspiciously looking at us...

anyway, we came up with cute motions to the song and everything :)

peace, charlie+

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from:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
subject:      re: touch me fall inserts
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i was the original poster who talked about the inserts in tmf. just for those
of you who didn't catch it when i saw them on the last night of their fall
tour (oct 94) they played free bird.

   also, will somone hopefully clear up the rumour josh reported? i remember
a friend of my husband telling us last year that ig broke up. i was really
concerned, and for weeks scoured any music news to see if it was true. for
almost a year  i waited to see if they released any new music, or toured
again. finally, this past fall my 12 year old son told me he saw on mtv that
they had released 1200 c. since none of this is really new music, could there
be some truth to the rumours? please say it ain't so!?!

  on an unrelated note, a  few helpful people told me about the web site for
more info on the girls, but when i tried to get in, it wouldn't let me access
it withiut permisssion. since i am new to this whole internet thing, could
someone tell me what i'm doing wrong, or what i need to do to get in.many
thanks.


angie

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subject:      re[2]: concerning amy's tattoo

and to expound on what kacy wrote, i've had the pleasure of designing a
tattoo for a friend of mine (hi kira! and _no_ , you may not go there!) and
personally would be pretty upset if i saw it on another individual. you
see, beyond all the legal mumble jumble, it was designed with her spirit,
character and presence in mind much in the same way that i would think
amy's was created with "amy" (the inner amy) in mind. i think it
disrespectful, in a spiritual sense, to infringe on that. if you feel
strongly about placing a symbol on your body, or having a symbol that
defines you, make sure it is truly of "you". you should find meaning on
your own path, not someone else's.

        btw everyone, it's a way cool design (thanks deb :):) ). and to add to
        this, i know that where i got my first tattoo, they won't copy another
        tattoo exactly. they would change it in some way but never exactly copy
        it. i would hope that the tattoo artist, being an artist, would
        recognize the significance of amy's tattoo to _her_ and not exactly
        duplicate it onto another. and being the proud keeper, wearer, owner
        (or however i would say that) of a tattoo, i would hope, as deb said,
        that people would get a tattoo that symbolizes or represents "them" in
        some personal, special, meaningful sort of way.

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 11:41:52 -0500
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subject:      re: first impressions

rop was the first album i picked up and it was the only one i had for about
a year.  so needless to say i was quite attached to those songs.  when so
came out it took some getting used to, as if it was trying in a way to take
the place of rop which had become so dear to me.  well, wouldn't you know
it i now love and find myself listening to it more than rop!

i now have all of their albums and i think they all take a little adjusting
to at the beginning.  kind of like breaking in a new pair of shoes.  i
think 1200 curfews is a bit different because i knew most of the songs.
it's weird because i've never really thought about all this with other
groups because i don't have the intimate connection that i feel for amy and
emily and their music.  everytime i hear a song by them that i have never
heard before it always takes some getting used to.  i guess first
impressions don't mean so much to me as far as the ig are concerned because
the music means more with each listening.
--
vicky
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just trying to finally come clean
knowing full well they'd prefer
you were dirty and smiling...
--ani difranco
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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 11:45:40 -0500
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subject:      nigc:seeking a venue

hi all---i was hoping that maybe someone might be able to help me with
something i am looking for.  a singer-songwriter friend of mine is
looking for a venue to rent for a band debut and asked me for
suggestions.  i believe she is interested in a location somewhere
between the lehigh valley(pa) and the ringoes, nj area (near
trenton/lawrenceville)-- most preferable, somewhere in buck's
county...but she has not ruled out areas near phila or lehigh valley.
as for what type of place she is looking for, i will let you read her
own words:

"i'm hoping to find a cool building of sorts (ie, warehouse turned
gallery, old inn, grist mill [heated]); or maybe a less cool space that has
some sort of stage/auditorium (ie, community center, fire hall, parks and
recreation center, etc.). the only criteria is that it seats 75-100 people,
either serves or can have alcohol brought in, is heated, has reasonable
parking, and will be reasonable to rent (i don't have that figure yet)."


i thought maybe some listmembers out there might have some cool ideas
for this plus i know some of you are like me and like to help out
independent singer-songwriters when possible. so-if you or anyone you
know might be able to help me out, i'd appreciate it...cuz this band
debut will be one heck of a night as she is an incredible
singer-songwriter who can rock out as well.  p.s. once i get info on
the band demo i'll post it to the list & give you a bigger blurb on
sheryl skye's music.

thanks
-paula
<pgregorowicz@papl.com>

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 11:55:28 est
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures
in-reply-to:  <960121182108_202960632@mail06.mail.aol.com>; from
              "dresden5@aol.com" at jan 21, 96 6:21 pm

>
> "isn't it ironic, don't you think"
>
> well...looks like good ole rolling stone can forget to mention ig when they
> are at newport, make a small blurb about honor the earth, but somehow find
> space to say that their new album has only sold 161,000..........hmmmmmm

i'm not one for oliver stone type consipracy theories; however, the
same thought stuck me too.  its very ironic.

as for reasons why the low sales, i vote for the packaging.  i hate
digi-pac.  if the cd was released by anyone but ig i wouldn't have
bought it.  i do know that 12cc was also released in jewel box;
however, the alternate packaging is predominate around here (i can't
find jewel boxes).


                                -- chris

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 16:39:59 gmt+1
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: horrible rumour

things are not looking up.

firstly, noone has sent a message denying 'the rumour' and secondly,
the only message relevant only seemed to add to it.


don't you think we'd have heard something before now.  i really think
that josh should tell us exactly what he was told.  somebody out
there must know the real truth...please??

i'm going home in a bit...please can someone clear up this cruel
joke if not this afternoon, by tomorrow.

helene...a very anxious devotee

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 11:42:08 -0600
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subject:      re: concerning amy's tattoo

< ...and have it be yours is an infrigement of copyright unless
< the orginal was clearly defined as copyright free ...

things are not defined as copyright free.  you must have them copyrighted
to protect them legaly.  unless amy or amy's tatoo artist has copyrighted
her tatoo, then it may be tacky to copy it, but it isn't illegal.  things
are not automatically copyrighted any more than they are automatically
patented.

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 18 jan 1996 to 19 jan 1996
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on mon, 22 jan 1996, gina canali wrote:

> i've heard this said before and i don't agree.  i think they did a
> great job with it. i prefer it to dylan or hendricks.
>

just for future reference, it's hendrix, not "hendricks".

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 12:51:10 -0500
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: concerning amy's tattoo
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at 11:42 am 1.22.96, trant batey wrote:

* < ...and have it be yours is an infrigement of copyright unless
* < the orginal was clearly defined as copyright free ...
*
* things are not defined as copyright free.

yes they are. the perfect examples are things such as clip art and some
digital stock collections (photos, maps, backgrounds, etc.) on cd-rom. you
may use them at will without having to pay a fee and they are listed as
being copyright free. with some cd-rom collections you pay to use an item
once. it depends on the set-up. the same can be said of form template
collections. you are free to use those designs at will without having to
give credit or pay credit to the original artist.

* you must have them copyrighted
* to protect them legaly.  unless amy or amy's tatoo artist has copyrighted
* her tatoo, then it may be tacky to copy it, but it isn't illegal.  things
* are not automatically copyrighted any more than they are automatically
* patented.

i disagree. as an artist my work is copyrighted as soon as i create it.
certainly there are ways to have it recorded (such as trademarks and
registered trademarks and marking it with a circle "c") but with art work
that isn't alway possible or feasible. all amy's artist would have to do is
show the history of the work (prove some kind of time frame) and he or she
could win in court.

sorry to take up space on the list with this, but copy machines, computers
and scanners have made it far too easy to steal other's work. we're not
just talking tacky here, we're talking morals and someone else's lively
hood. using someone else's work in an application other than what was
intended by the artist is, without their permission, stealing.

deb

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 10:45:48 -0800
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from:         stanley kulesza <stankul@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      nigc:re: touch me fall inserts ; dar williams

sherlyn wrote:
>
>ps - dar williams' new album, "mortal city", should be instores
january 23rd,
>for those of you lucky enough to live in a country where people
actually
>know who dar williams is... :)
>

well...i actually saw "mortal city" in the store last week...but have
yet to find "honesty room"!!!....can anyone help me out on where to
find it?


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from:         alex scherer <alscherer@aol.com>
subject:      1200 multimedia

hi all,
  i was just wondering if one of you fanatics out there (meant only in the
kindest possible terms) knew anything about the 1200 curfews multimedia disc.
i read somewhere (can't remember if it was on the list, web, or on paper)
that a cd-rom was produced that contained  the normal 1200 curfews and also a
screen saver, video clip, etc.  now it is entirely possible that i was
reading mail, dozed off, and fantasized this entire incident, so if someone
could clarify this, it would be much appreciated.
thanks,
alex

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 18:50:13 gmt
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subject:      re: copying tattoos
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hey lorinda...sweetie :)
(oh, and everyone else looking in there...)

>you're just dying to start a war over this, aren't you neil?

*nods*
uh-huh :)
devil's advocae good :)

>well, i'll bite.

*raises eyebrow*
*holds tongue*

>:) how dare you!!??? all along the watchtower is fabulous, and every word that
>amy adds to it is an _obvious_ improvement, and _should_ have been there in
>the first place.

one upon a long ago...waaaay back, i had amy's words
down there *points* where joan osbourne is now...(by
the way, should i go see her when she supports melissa
etheridge next week...bearing in mind my fundage
crises...??)
anyway, the amy quote from aatw was there. it's a cool
quote. i like it.

but the tune is an overlong dirge. it's oversung and
has pretentious unmelodic guitarwork. just listen to
the way amy says aaahhhwwwll aaahlawng the waaatchtwr
i _know_ they could do better. like, by adding a
rhythm section...or a couple of tape edits maybe...

so there.
*sticks tongue out*

>i have conniptions over their version of this song, and the
>original is one tremendous *yawn*. :) there. war started. *grin*

do you wanna fight??
outside. now.

:):)

bob dylan...well, it's what you expect from bob really
jimi hendrix...the slide guitar from hell...
u2...the improvised words are a joke, but the rest of
it kinda kicks there...i mean, if you mixed the two
versions, ig's and u2 you'd have something special...

>>pass the chocolates please...
>
>no, you don't get any. i'm keeping it in my car with me and all the other
>people who are allowed in my car. :)

*puppy dog eyes*
pretty please with sugar on?? :):)
be your best friend, come to my party??

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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: thankyou...
x-to:         h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
in-reply-to:  <4273295607@sperrin.ulst.ac.uk> from "helene burningham" at jan
              22, 96 08:39:48 am

to once and for all end this thread:
the indigo girls are still together...
emily despite rumors of going to a commune where the community listens to
joni mitchell and writes sad, very sad songs, is still a member
and amy, despite rumors of leaving atlanta to pursue a life of going to lawn
sales and screaming "i will not be complacent" wildly is still a member

josh's frtiend could have heard that two nice girls broke up, which they did
, several years ago. spoken really fast two nice could have be indigo or
something. (well only one *possible* explanation)

rdr did confirm however that they did not break up...
mike r.

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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      rumor

okay, i've been sitting on my hands trying not to write this, but i cannot resist any longer.

first, i must note that the possibility of the ig breaking up is only a rumor, with no factual basis (as of yet).

but, this little voice has been gnawing at me for some time now -- since the time the ig stopped touring.  why release a compilation of all of your videos and a double cd that includes a historical perspective of musical your career?  are not both of these actions a type of farewell?  it's just a gut feeling, an uneasiness but i cannot get the thoughts out of my head.  their recent releases just don't make sense for a band that is planning to continue on into the future---
alycia

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                             amy & emily
                             "least complicated" video

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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: 1200 multimedia

i sent a posting to the list last week that was something i had saved to
floppy that explained bootlegs and how to get them.  well, the original
posting was made by

~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
|   |_| \-\ |-  |
\__ | | \_/ |_  |


y'all remember her? ok, well i didn't read the post too closely and
therefore did not see that *amazing* quality that was attributed to 1200
c.  suffice to say, ain't so.  it is not multimedia but nonetheless, it is
pretty damn good...so use your imagination.

jude :)

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on fri, 19 jan 1996, neil phillips wrote:

> greetings to one and all,
>
> i'm curious to know how people feel about new ig albums when they first
> listen to them, because despite loving them to death, each time i hear a new
> album i tend to think 'yeah, it's quite good, but probably not up to xxx'.
> by the 3rd or 4th listen i'm really liking it, and by about the 6th play
> it's totally got under my skin and i want to listen to it all the time. and
> i find new things in every album no matter how many dozens of times i listen
> to them.
>
> this was especially true of so, which i was very ambivalent about at 1st
> play, but which i now think is totally fabulous.
>
> is this a common experience, or am i weird, or what?

that's exactly how it was for me. swamp ophelia was my first experience
with indigo girls period, and i wasn't really sure i liked it. but i just
gradually started listening to it more, and more, and more, and now i
love it. (well, i've loved it for about... 11 months out of the 12 i've
had it? :) didn't listen to it very often the first month.) pretty much
the same for the "new" (to me) songs on 1200c - like them after listening
a few times, but not sure the first time.

> ps. if anyone gets this far - those people that are wondering why when they
> reply to a message it doesn't get posted to the list, if you look at the
> 'from' box on your message it indicates the person who sent the post - try
> using 'reply all' (if you're using windows) or your system's equivalent if
> you want to post to everyone.

what i do is choose "reply to all recipients" and then delete the person
who sent it so it sends just to the list, this helps so one person
doesn't get two copies of the same message.

cran

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i felt the same way when i got sf.  i already had ig, nis, and rop when i
found sf and bought it.  i listened to it once straight through and did
not really like it.  i put it away and did not listen to it for at least
a month, maybe more.  i played it again and decided that it wasn't too
bad.  now, of course, i do love it, especially sf and idwt!

on mon, 22 jan 1996, cranberry wrote:

> on fri, 19 jan 1996, neil phillips wrote:
>
> > greetings to one and all,
> >
> > i'm curious to know how people feel about new ig albums when they first
> > listen to them, because despite loving them to death, each time i hear a new
> > album i tend to think 'yeah, it's quite good, but probably not up to xxx'.
> > by the 3rd or 4th listen i'm really liking it, and by about the 6th play
> > it's totally got under my skin and i want to listen to it all the time. and
> > i find new things in every album no matter how many dozens of times i listen
> > to them.
> >
> > this was especially true of so, which i was very ambivalent about at 1st
> > play, but which i now think is totally fabulous.
> >
> > is this a common experience, or am i weird, or what?
>
> that's exactly how it was for me. swamp ophelia was my first experience
> with indigo girls period, and i wasn't really sure i liked it. but i just
> gradually started listening to it more, and more, and more, and now i
> love it. (well, i've loved it for about... 11 months out of the 12 i've
> had it? :) didn't listen to it very often the first month.) pretty much
> the same for the "new" (to me) songs on 1200c - like them after listening
> a few times, but not sure the first time.
>
> cran
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if so i think the world is in for a mass suicide.

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subject:      hard, true feelings

hello one and all....

a couple of days ago i posted about my first feelings on the ig, and i
received several very wonderful postings.  now, i asked a couple of
people these questions already, individually, but now i want to ask
everyone.

at thirteen, the ig moved me in a way that no other music, (besides the
beatles), had ever moved me.  my dad bought the first album after ctf was
released, and we listened to it numerous times.  i, however, never took
it out of the cd player.  day and night until each new album was
released i kept whatever new release i could in whatever sort of music
playing machinary i could.  at sixteen i made mixed tapes that were pure
ig and mood-oriented.  if i was sad, i would put in a downer tape if i
wanted to stay that way.  a and e's lyrics helped me deal with years of
teen angst and fights with my parental units.  i read sylvia plath, anne
sexton, and listened to ig.  i hid my walkman under my shirt in lunch and
ate in the corner.  unfortunately, when they came to pine knob (in 1990
or so?) my parentals wouldn't let me go, and i would speak to them for
days.  just hang on, this is all going somewhere....

a and e have changed my life.  they taught me to express myself, as a
woman, in woman's terms. they taught me that even in the toughest,
low-downest of all times that if i was a woman, and if i believed in
myself, my femininity would help me prevail.  they taught me not to be
the weak species.  i never would be able to tell this to anyone else but
everyone out there reading...but the indigo girls kept me alive.
as i wrote earlier, i am not 21 and coming out on my own, and am curious
to know if the ig changed everyone else's lives as much as they changed
mine.  did my age have to do with my impressionability?  or does everyone
feel this way about a and e?  what other women have influenced your
lives?  men out there, this is not limited to the other gender!!!  i am
truly interested in hearing if i am just a psycho, or is others out there
feel as passionately grateful towards a and e for entering the world and
our lives and making the world seem exceptional....
w/b if you're interested in discussing....

i'm here listening with all of you....

aim

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 18:09:01 -0500
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subject:      jake (formerly millan & kenzie) tour dates in musical
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        the dates for jake's tour of wy and co (and nc and ga) just hit
musical (http://www.automatrix.com).
        in fact, we've cross-referenced the names, so if anyone tries
this out, please let me know how it works.
        a few copies of our cassette-only live album are still available
from rainy day 1-800-636-6166. hand decorated by the band, with a nice
photo- pretty snazzy...
        -chris
              visit
http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/milkenzie/
              please

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on sun, 21 jan 1996, petite piquet wrote:

> well, it's not a story but something odd that happened - i've got a whole
> bunch of ig albums in my stereo on random play right now.  earlier on, it
> chose "power of two" from 1200c, and then straight after, it played po2
> from swampo.  a second ago it was playing "love's recovery" from 1200c...
> which segued straight into... you got it - "love's recovery" from ig.

huh - that's happened to me too. :) once i put all my cds in the cool new
5 cd changer we got for christmas, and i got dead man's hill twice in a
row. another time i played them all randomly i wrote down the order of
the songs it played; it played all the 1200c songs first, with only 7 or
8 songs from other albums during that time. and then i wondered if it was
having a rop marathon after that; it then played 3 hits, galileo, and
joking in that order...

cran :)

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that's what i thought, too.  it even had a fancy name: "cd+".  but i
certainly haven't seen or heard anything about it since september of last
year.

maybe it's just another thing that was planned, but didn't materialize
(has anybody seen a bmhawk single that *isn't* a promo?).

mmm.

completely freaked out my nextdoor neighbours this afternoon.  i was
playing the guitar...suddenly i started to hear swamp ophelia coming
through the walls (which made a nice change from the usual abba that they
blast at me), so i found my self playing along (a little louder, of
course)....in a different key.  they turned it down.  i don't think i'll
be hearing much more of abba now.

yours in smug satisfaction,

rebecca

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     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
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subject:      howdy y'all

hello folks... i'm back online!!!
have i missed anything important whilst i've been away?

this may be old news but the ig's are featured on a compilation album. i saw it
advirtised in the free magazine from tower records:

the best of folk music: contemporary folk
cd: putu107
cs: putu105
14 of the best songs from the new folk movement. features indigo girls, mary
black, john gorka, kristen hall, cliff eberhardt, christine lavin, greg brown
and others.
price $11.99

tower in austin has sold out so i don't know the ig track... but i do have a
copy on order :)

there is an interesting joan baez interview in the november/december issue of
the performing songwriter (the issue with k.d.lang on the cover). joan talks
about her live album "ring them bells" (which features the ig's) and she
mentions amy & emily a few times. the photographs are by amy putnum who is/was
a list member :)

here is a review of 1200 curfews from tower records free magazine pulse!

speaking of exemplary female role models, the indigo girls' 1200 curfews (epic,
***) is a spirited live retrospective, drawn from several years' worth of large
and small shows, that does a solid job of encapsulating the duo's substantial
charms while generally avoiding their more irksome excesses. while partners amy
ray and emily saliers have taken a lot of flak for their new-agey earnestness,
they possess an accomlished sense of songcraft and an admirable ability (when
they're in the mood) to focus on the human heart that beats beneath their
bittersweet odes to selfdiscovery and spirituality. this two disc, 27-song
collection mixes a good selection of originals with sincere but unsuccessful
covers of bob dylan, joni mitchell, neil young and buffy sainte-marie.
(***=above average)

take care y'all
sharon (the brit abroad who is glad to be back again!)... now installed in
austin, texas.

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subject:      hey, all..

i was just wondering..
i'm sitting here listening to 1200c, yet again wondering why they didn't
put tmf on it.. okay, okay, so this has been discussed before. :) i'm not
looking to open a thread, but i'm wondering, does anyone have a boot of
the so tour with amy's soc in the middle of tmf?
if so, please mail me. i'd really really really appreciate it. :)

sorry to waste bandwidth!

bregalad

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hey y'all!  that fabolous band from the mountains of va played at eddie's
attic last tuesday..  radar rose...  and most of y'all missed them.. *shame
shame*   well, they played about an hour and a half of "acoustic rock" that
kept me jammin the whole time..  they've got a new cd out-- one dozen live
roses and last tuesday was their offical release in atlanta.. they did a
previous release in va during the month of december... i had to miss it due
to work and life in atlanta...

i'll tell you this.. this band really rocks.. they've got a vocalist that is
part ashley from ashley and mark, part janice joplin, and well-- throw in
some orignality and a piece of her own twist..  a flutist, well, i'll tell
you this-- i've never heard flute played like this, who also plays maracas,
guitar, sings, and does just about anything else that needs to be done that
can't be done by-- the drummer, and the other guitarist..  both of which,
well-- add flavors of their own from a rock beat to on the hard stuff, to
soft gentle stuff on that more mellow stuff that this band plays... you
really outta check them out....


and! here's what they've got--

2 cd's--

dog years
   and
one dozen live roses

1 t-shirt  w/a rose on it *surprise*

and!

an email address--

radarose@aol.com

send them a  line... they are really cool folks w/ a groovin' dog by the
name of beastly :))  and, they come from a really neat place.. *big grin*


also, if you don't get their stuff from them-- perry, marsha and jeff at our
favorite rainy day records has it :))  1-800-636-6166

take care y'all

*smile*
brooke

yak, yakkie, etc.. on irc
http://www.mindspring.com/~water


".. better learn how to starve the emptiness and feed the hunger.."
        -emily saliers

"..every five months or so i look back on my life and have a good laugh.."
        -emily saliers

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>(which made a nice change from the usual abba that they
>blast at me)

and what, pray, is _wrong_ with abba ??

:):)

they rule :):)

*runs off to find his abba box set...*

the scary thing is...i'm serious...

@}--,--'---

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subject:      strange fire

hey y'all -- a word from rainy day records.. if you've not heard about it
yet--  they recently had an orginal strange fire in there for 300.00, but,
while i was in their they sold it!  but, aha! don't fret!  they've got
**another one** this one- in *much* better condition---  it's the best one
that our dear perrry, marsha, and jeff have *ever* seen...

call him to ask about it..

1-800-636-6166  or-- rainy@mindspring.com  *i'd recomend calling them though*

*smile*
brooke

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        -emily saliers

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subject:      nopers!

       so, i'm not on this list anymore, but i heard a nasty rumour of what
is being spread here.. and i just gotta say--

                *the latest from atlanta is---***

nope, the girls are *not*, i repeat  *not* breaking up..  have no fear.. so
many rumours that people start, just to entertain themselves, and well, this
one sounds like it...  calm down, take a deep breath, and sorry-- your
collectables are not worth double now...


*smile*

water...

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".. better learn how to starve the emptiness and feed the hunger.."
        -emily saliers

"..every five months or so i look back on my life and have a good laugh.."
        -emily saliers

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subject:      re: 1200 multimedia

<< in a message dated 96-01-22 20:23:29 est, you write:

>  ...ok, well i didn't read the post too closely and
>therefore did not see that *amazing* quality that was attributed to 1200
>c.  suffice to say, ain't so.  it is not multimedia but nonetheless, it is
>pretty damn good...so use your imagination.
>
>

aaarrrgggghhhh!!!  fine, dash my hopes on the floor and stomp to your heart's
content!

woulda been quite an idea, though... but maybe too much of a nod to us
"freako" list-members that are just waaaaayy too hung up on a and e!

not wanting to start a debate on the extent of our fanaticism,
alex


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date:    96-01-22 20:28:58 est
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in a message dated 96-01-22 20:23:29 est, you write:

>  ...ok, well i didn't read the post too closely and
>therefore did not see that *amazing* quality that was attributed to 1200
>c.  suffice to say, ain't so.  it is not multimedia but nonetheless, it is
>pretty damn good...so use your imagination.
>
>

aaarrrgggghhhh!!!  fine, dash my hopes on the floor and stomp to your heart's
content!

woulda been quite an idea, though... but maybe too much of a nod to us
"freako" list-members that are just waaaaayy too hung up on a and e!

not wanting to start a debate on the extent of our fanaticism,
alex

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i definately don't think ig are a gender oriented group. they even said
they despise it when they are catogarized as such. as they become more
and more popular they are picking up people from all races and both
genders. i guess i should tell my story.
  i was in eighth grade and they were showing slides of events that had
happened at our school that year. in the backround they were playing
music to help us remember, i guess. they played mostly 80's alternative
bands like midnight oil and the cure. but then i heard one of the most
beautiful songs i ever heard coming from behind the projected screen.i
was almost in tears and was extremely inspired, even for an eighth grader.
well, i left that room asking everyone i knew if they had heard the song
that was just played but noone knew. it was a month later that in the car
on the way up to an interveiw with a bank in mass. by brother tim put in
"closer to fine". i was so enthralled. i just rewound the song over and
over again. then my brother pulled over at the closest mall to pick up a
copy of their title album. i listened to that tape until the ink smeared
and the words became untangiable. i was hooked.
  i remember going to summer camp with all of their tapes staring at
mountains and hiking with nis in my walkman. i decided there that i
wanted to be a musician. i wanted to have that same effect on people. and
i most of all i wanted to use language as a form of positive persausion.
  six years later and 3 albums later they are still the driving force in
my music. the music may have become a totally different genre that
reaches a different audience but i am acheiving in essence the same
thing. i still use words as a source of power and music as a point of bliss.
   as for emotions ig has pretty much summed up every emotion i've ever
felt. through their music i have felt both extreme pain and extreme
happiness. i learned to accept my emotions even though i was told i
wasn't normal for feeling them. i became a person.

ben

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subject:      rdr pics up

for those of you still speaking to me, the first set of pics from rainy
day records is up on my page (see url, below).

let me know what you think.

for those of you not speaking to me or sending me hate mail every 15
seconds, the address is below as well.

y'all need to read closely...

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admissions (call 800-827-8728), actor, director, ibm fanatic, documentation
author, single guy, & much, much more! apvlbsb. a+e=ig. try my home page at
"http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"          "the only way out is through."

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to all,

just a note to say how wonderful i think this thread is.  some of the most
inspiring, heart-felt stories i have ever heard were sent to me (and the rest
of you too) as a result of this thread.  i thank whoever started it, as well
as those who opened their hearts and souls to complete strangers to tell
their story.


i wish i had your courage,

alex

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subject:      where is everyone?and a weird offer

howdy folks.  i was reading some of the five gazillion messages i have built
up from this list and noticing the consistency with which people ask questions
that are never answered.  someone awhile back asked about "cedar tree" for
instance; did they ever get a private reply on what amy said the song was
about?  maybe i haven't read far enough into it my mail yet... but if not,
ask again and maybe someone will explain it this time. (i would now, but i
don't want to be repetitive if i missed someone else's reply)
     anyhow, the "weird offer" isn't really an offer just yet, but it could be
sometime.  i keep meaning to do trades of boots and pictures but i never have
time.  i thought this info might be interesting anyway...
     i have a croation friend who knows i am an indigo nut.  she brought me
over a video made by nenad bach, a guy who goes to her church.  it's called
"can we go higher", and despite it's noble intent it's pretty cheesy.  john
malkovich is in it, and a whole bunch of other people, including, you guessed
it, indigo girls.  they're on for ten or fifteen seconds, singing part of the
song.  they look like they did in their nomad days.  anyhow, out of sheer
curiosity, i was wondering how many people would be interested in obtaining
this video (this is actually a secret test to see how many of you *really*
care about ig :) )  no i don't mean i will copy it now (and if it's till in
print i won't copy it at all of course - i'll tell you how to get it.)  i was
just wondering if anyone else has heard of it or would want it.

mc (the reaper - finder of all things indigo - including weird musical
rehearsals :)

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subject:      no jazz festival

looks like i found a ride down to new orleans!   ha!  i'm so excited.  i'm just
looking for any details that anyone out there has.  if you have *any* info,
it'd be much appreciated!

still glowing!

avital
avital@lucy.cs.wisc.edu

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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      boots?

i'm looking for boots from 1995 (0r 1996, but i doubt they've done anything
in the last three weeks).  i have the following things to trade:

new mongrels release party 3/26/94 100min
urban nirvana atlanta, ga 11/93 45min
live at wrek 2/2/89 50min
live on 96 rock 3/89 50min
paramount theater denver, co 10/22/90 100min
provincetown town hall, provincetown, ma 7/28/91 100min
amy solo white dot 5/30/89 30min
what the folk 6/90 20min
amy solo ga music showcase 8/4/90 30min
kmtt "the mountain" radio interview 9/1/91 10min
amsterdam 10/2/92 50min
holland 10/25/92 50min
unh concert 4/22/94 90min
uc berkeley 8/21/94 90min
b&js newport folk fest 8/10/91 60min
earth jam 4/30/94 90min
mountain stage 4/93 60min
no republicans here (eddies attic) 2/10/93 120min
brisbane 2/22/95 110min
purple parrot 1985 90min
shades of indigo 8/90 55min
bluefood 1985 60min
general foods intl. coffeehouse 1992 20min


and i have 11 melissa etheridge tapes too, if anyone is interested in those.
plus some michelle malone and some viva la diva.

i thought i had some more tapes around here, but i just moved so they may
emerge later, in which case i'll repost.

please respond to my email address so that the list isn't cluttered up with
my begging.  thanks

k
kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu

is there anyone else in orygun on here?

just checking

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*********
today i don't know where we'll land.
at times the runway is clear
like an infant's eyes,
and i can steer this craft with no questions
left dangling.
but nothing is that certain,
and lately i can only be in the flight.

(laura kemp)

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date:         mon, 22 jan 1996 22:32:53 est
reply-to:     joe <jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
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subject:      midnight train guy/ james brady/ hi!

hello! :)  thought i'd yap a bit ..woo hoo..
greg wrote about the guy on midnight train ...that's jimmy descant..long time
guitar tech for the girls..and jimmy jam to those that do love him..he did sing
on every performance of the song as far as i know..including 1200 curphews. i
do like his voice..though can remember an occasion or two when the mix did not
suit him..perhaps your show is one of these instances...but rest assured that
other times he sounded wonderful..most of the time in fact....him and gail wou
ld line up down from emily..and they would do a little coordinated fifties
style dowap dance...it was great!~ i petitioned very hard for that song to make
1200 curphews and am ecstatic that it did..
i'm not sure if it was mentioned...but before there was a thread about the brad
y bill and mr. brady...he attended an indigo girls concert in fairfax va...last
december i think...he was publicly recognized during the show by the girls and
received a standing ovation...*clap clap*
some of you may be famous..and not even know it! :)..i have the blown up concer
t shot  from the top right hand corner of the 1200c picture page..that was take
n at the last show of the regular tour before honor the earth at rutgers univ.
greg wyman and kenny are in it..and if you were close at the show..maybe you ar
e too..which doesn't do you much good i guess in that picture cuz you'd need a
microscope to see it well..but there are some bigger sizings in circulation..so
keep your eyes open... one neat little thing that made my day... the third pic
ture in from the top left on that page..of amy painting something...at one of t
he shows, jerry marotta gave me the skin from his bass drum...later on i talked
to the band members..and they agreed..and i gave amy a big bag of acrylic pain
ts...and she painted..i had hoped for the whole band..but in the end..only amy
and jerry had time to work on it..but of course..i gave it to them three shows
from the end of the tour..so..i guess it's my fault...but none the less..that i
s amy painting it ..and i have it hangly proudly in my house :)
she did a cat on it..with a poem written around the outside of the cat (which w
as laying sprawled) ..it was in the theme of chickenman..which was a focal poin
t for her during the shows at that time...and she painted a flowery border arou
nd the outside..it is one of my most prized posessions..for what ever posession
s are worth~
and speaking of posessions ( i hope i am spelling it right since i am over usin
g it)   some new collectibles that i have run across that might be of interest
to those collectors on the list
there is an import version of the swamp ophelia vinyl..it is not autographed...
and has a song list sticker on both sides...so..side one has only the songs fro
m side one..and side two has side two listed songs..unlike the auto'd ones..i
don't remember which country they are from..but..i only know of one other pers
on who has one..which is why i thought some might not know about it
there are copies of all the albums on cassette with the tracks listed in
spanish...i'm not sure how official they are..and i only have nomads..but they
are around...
a really neat find was a rop that was made in india..it is official..it comes
in a casing similar to a vcr tape..and has a laminated plastic around the outsi
de with a paper slid in there that is the actual cover...it is similar to the r
egular rop..but has pan music along with epic...etc....and it says made in
bombay...i don't know which other albums were made there..it has other indian r
elated info as well..all words are in english..
i've also seen indigo girls road signs..these are wonderful (though unofficial)
..they are thick black metal..with indigo girls rd. on it..the letters are stam
ped out from behind so they come out in front and there is a ring around the ou
tside...the lettering and the ring are blue.. if you've seen these..i'm sure yo
u already own it..:)
so...i hope i didn't restate the obvious .. and that this info was of use
to someone damnit..
maggie..call me now :p
hi rena and carol! and carolyn? where did she run off to?
we are fortunate ones..so fortunate
joe

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subject:      just out of curiosity,

is anyone getting this?  i haven't gotten any list mail since friday and
don't know whether you've all gotten really quiet really fast, or whether
i've "fallen" off the list.

someone please let me know?  florine, or charlie, or ben?  anybody?

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from:         amanda johnson <ae-johnson@nwu.edu>
subject:      goodbye to my listserve pals

i must regretfully announce that i am signing off from the indigo girls
listserve.  i am not leaving in a huff, upset about some argument or
disgusted with members, but i will soon have limited access to e-mail, and
therefore must stop my subscription.  i've had a lot of fun, participated
in some great discussions, and learned a great deal.  thanks to everyone
and i wish the best for you all.  hopefully i may sign again in the future.
take care, y'all.
peace,
amanda

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amanda johnson                     "what is dark in me,
northwestern university                                         illumine......"
ae-johnson@nwu.edu                                                                      -milton

  "oh to follow the road that leads away from everything,
   without anguish, death, winter waiting along it
   with their eyes open through the dew."
                                   -pablo neruda
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from:         alex scherer <alscherer@aol.com>
subject:      re: hard, true feelings

i'm so confused.  i meant to send this to the list, but i think i sent it to
only one person.  so, here it is for all of you
alex

in a message dated 96-01-22 23:46:47 est, matthew_pallamary@cpqm.saic.com
(matthew pallamary) writes:

>sure beats the hell out of calling amy a bitch and wondering who would win a
>fight.
>------------------------------
>date: 1/22/96 7:15 pm
>to: pallamary, matthew
>from: alscherer@aol.com
>
>to all,
>
>just a note to say how wonderful i think this thread is.  some of the most
>inspiring, heart-felt stories i have ever heard were sent to me (and the
rest
>of you too) as a result of this thread.  i thank whoever started it, as well
>as those who opened their hearts and souls to complete strangers to tell
>their story.
>
>
>i wish i had your courage,
>
>alex
>
>

>>

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from:         mr john k stanley <rwps84a@prodigy.com>
subject:      mangled lyrics

from joking on rop:

cinnamon ribbon or cinnamon floss?

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from:         rick b sayre <oracle1310@aol.com>
subject:      re: no jazz festival
x-to:         avital@cs.wisc.edu

:) been looking into it a bit. i called a telephone number i've got in my
louisiana tour guide :) got a machine. :p  but it told me that the dates for
the new orleans jazz festival are:

april 26-may 5
unfortunately, according to the recording, a schedule of events will not be
available till march. :p again!!

the address/telephone for the new orleans jazz and heritage festival:
1205 north rampart street
new orleans, la 70116
(504) 522.4786


and hey, if anyone finds out anything more please e-mail me about it!! i'm
counting down the days... months!! aaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

rick
who thinks that a list party in new orleans might be really rad!


*we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars*
-oscar wilde


*two men, one cart, fresh pasta- think about it.*
-suzanne sugarbaker, designing women


*you cannot demand your rights, civil or otherwise, if you are unwilling to
say what you are*
-merle miller

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      clogging up the mail-path yet again...

yesterday afternoon, i sent this...did anyone get it????


to:                     indigo-girls@netspace.org
subject:                re: horrible rumour
send reply to:          h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
date sent:              mon, 22 jan 1996 16:39:59

things are not looking up.

firstly, noone has sent a message denying 'the rumour' and secondly,
the only message relevant only seemed to add to it.


don't you think we'd have heard something before now.  i really think
that josh should tell us exactly what he was told.  somebody out
there must know the real truth...please??

i'm going home in a bit...please can someone clear up this cruel
joke if not this afternoon, by tomorrow.

helene...a very anxious devotee

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      oh, this and that...

ok, it's tuesday morning, which is never as bad as monday morning,
but almost, especially when you get into work and find that there has
only been one piece of list mail delivered since you went home the
night before.  and especially when that piece of mail doesn't clear
up the 'little' bit of nasty gossip that infected the list yesterday.
if there is anyone out there who is hearing me, please say hello and
tell me not to worry and that everything is going to be alright.

it's getting cold and depressing here in n. ireland...

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subject:      re: hard, true feelings
x-to:         amy benore <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960122174032.9870d-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

i suppose that my "testament" about ig has more to do with their artistry
and the balance i find in it.  i am not a woman, so their music has
affected me in a way distinct from female listeners, but...

a and e taught me (and continue to teach me) how to put musical artistry
with just enough social concern to be relevant and to have an impact on
society in some way.  i can't listen to tunes like ptntf and let it be me
without thinking that i had written them myself, and without knowing that
these women are saying things they very few people are saying with their
music today.  and i can't help but see them as modern-day descendants in
some sense of phil ochs and joan baez, performers who are politically
committed but still unafraid of creating beauty with their music.

i'll make another contrast here.  csn is, was, and probably ever shall be
my absolute favorite band of all time ever, for some very good reasons,
but has that band put out a body of work as consistent and as excellent
as ig has ina third of the time? no.  a and e have not yet written a song
that hasn't struck me in some way (at least of their released work).  and
i feel closer to them in some weird way, despite the gender, sexual
orientation another differences.

very mangled thoughts, but maybe some hardy soul can understand them.
love, mike

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subject:      sorry and thanks

ok...in the last 10 minutes, i've had a rush of about 40 mail...guess
i kinda panicked after last weeks fiasco.

anyway, i have to appologise to josh, for going on about the
rumour...sorry, it just got me a bit depressed.  also, i have to
thank michael reynolds for putting me at peace and boldly declaring
that all is well.

to all of you who have written to me, i will reply later...i'm off
down to belfast now to pick up my friend from the airport.  i'll
introduce her to y'all later...she's a big ig fan too.

so i'll see y'all later

helene

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from:         "p.u.n.k. girl" <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      nigc, but...

i just wanted to let y'all know that i'm going home for a week or so, so
i won't be getting what is posted, although i'll be able to receive at:
        lwarren531@aol.com
but only until the 29th.  then i'll be on my way back to school where i
can continue participated as per usual.  fare thee well, my bright
stars...
-mandy

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from:         deborah luci <lucid@filoli.com>
subject:      re: best contemporary folks

begin forwarded message:

this may be old news but the ig's are featured on a compilation
album. i saw it
advirtised in the free magazine from tower records:

the best of folk music: contemporary folk
cd: putu107
cs: putu105
14 of the best songs from the new folk movement. features indigo
girls, mary
black, john gorka, kristen hall, cliff eberhardt, christine lavin,
greg brown
and others.
price $11.99

tower in austin has sold out so i don't know the ig track... but i
do have a
copy on order :)

------
the indigo track is "hammer and a nail."  the kristen hall track is
"in the country".  the others elude me at the moment but it's a
nice compilation...the cd is available from ladyslipper
(1-800-634-6044) also if tower loses your order

"i bought you that ring cause i thought it was cool"  --lyrics
mangled by my mind (even saw them written down for one sees what one
looks for) but emily stared at me at a concert till i finally
understood...

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subject:      nigc- a brief thank-you

thanks to all the folks who answered the "curiosity" post; i've asked to be
resubscribed to the list, so with any luck the chatter will start filling up
my box again in the very near future.

that's it.  see?  wasn't that nearly painless?

          take care,
                   danna

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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures
in-reply-to:  <013.09192389.rucr57a@prodigy.com>

on sun, 21 jan 1996, mr rodney s wicker wrote:

> the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how
> live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,
> they listed the sales of several recent live albums.
>
> they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.
>
> i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
> albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!

not to mention double cds.

kinda makes me want to go buy another, though.  it's so clearly a labor
of love, they really did a great job.

deb \ indigo@clark.net

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subject:      re: sales

do you mean to tell me that only 161,000 copies of 1200 curfews have been sold.
i find that almost impossible to believe and if it is true i find it sad.  not
so much that not many have been sold but that people have not heard the music.
there isn't much in this world that has effected me more.  any thoughts?
peace,
amy

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subject:      whoops!

i am soooooo sorry!  i used the wrong address!!   a thousand pardons!!!!!!!

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amanda johnson                  "what is dark in me,
northwestern university                                         illumine......"
ae-johnson@nwu.edu                                                              -milton


  "oh to follow the road that leads away from everything,
   without anguish, death, winter waiting along it
   with their eyes open through the dew."
                                   -pablo neruda
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from:         iwan meulia pirous <pirous@melsa.net.id>
subject:      mystery

i like ig song titled "mistery". sometimes i played it with my guitar at night.
and i feel like i'm gonna cry 'cause its melody.

imp
-----------------------------------
iwan meulia pirous
jalan cisitu indah vi /4 bandung 40135
indonesia
phone: 62-22-2503209
e-mail address: pirous@melsa.net.id
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subject:      cover me grey inserts
in-reply-to:  <199601230501.aaa17078@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at jan 23, 96 00:00:20 am

do any of the branches (or the trunk) of the cover me grey tape tree have
any inserts left?  i know someone who wants a copy, but it just isn't the
same without the awesome insert (thanks margaret!).  please send me your
address if you can still make tapes, and i'll pass it along.  thanks!

sue

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hi y'all,
  i have a question that i was wondering if anyone could answer....in the song i notice that there is talking behind the music starting at about 5:20 into the
song.  sounds like a and e but i can't understand what they are saying.  any
ideas?  thanx.
peace,
amy

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subject:      re: oops

hi again y'all,
  i asked a question about a song and then forgot to say what song....the song
is "touch me fall".  there are voices at the end (starts at about 5:20 into the
song) that sound like a and e but i can't tell what they are saying.  sorry for
the slip up and thanx for the help.
peace,
amy

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subject:      re: this train

hi again,
  i don't mean to be a pain in the ass but i'm listening to so right now and it
brings up some questions like the one i posted about the voices in "tmf" and i
am right now listening to "this train".  are the voices at the very beginning
reading off names or is it something else?  if you haven't heard it, go put it
on and crank up the volume.  thanx for the help...again.  :)
peace,
amy

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subject:      break-up?

hi friends,


      what is this rumour? the ig's breaking-up? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

god woudn't do_ that_ to us after hillary clinton and spam........


                                           annie   xoxoxoxooxo

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subject:      found bmhawk

um, i've never posted anything here before so i hope i'm doing this right. :)
  i just wanted to let "y'all" know that i found the promo for bury my
heart....  the guy has two copies left.  i found out about this in
goldmine.... here's the info :
amoeba music  1-510-549-2340
that's in berkeley, ca.  sorry that there's no 800 number.
the hours to call are between 11am and 3pm pacific time tuesday thru
thursday, otherwise there's a machine.
well, take care,
renee

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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      hello?

if this is coming up on the list please tell me...i never understood
these group listing things anyway! :)
not to worry though, i'm learning
"sal-ray" a la #indigo-girls on /server usd.dal.net
or otherwise known as tracy

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date:         tue, 23 jan 1996 20:24:00 +0000
reply-to:     matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures
x-to:         deb <indigo@clark.net>

from deb:
>on sun, 21 jan 1996, mr rodney s wicker wrote:
>
>> the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how
>> live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,
>> they listed the sales of several recent live albums.
>>
>> they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.
>>
>> i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
>> albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!
>
>not to mention double cds.
>
>kinda makes me want to go buy another, though.  it's so clearly a labor
>of love, they really did a great job.

live lps are often not as critically-acclaimed as studio ones either, and
there are some (including reviewers) who just hate them.   i read one review
of pink floyd's pulse live album which included the words "this album is two
things i hate most about music:  live albums and pink floyd".   personally i
don't agree with him, and i can name one live lp that in many cases improved
on the studio efforts - joni mitchell's shadows and light, from 1980.   it
was a culmination of her jazz work and even the stuff off mingus, which
everyone said was crap (i have to agree here except for the dry cleaner from
des moines) sounded brilliant.

also, some artists don't like their live albums as well as their studio
efforts, particularly if it's all recorded at one gig, if it's a bad gig.
ani di franco did a live album as part of a series called "women in
(e)motion" but she wanted it released only in germany (where the gig took
place) because she thought that, among other problems, her guitar sounded
out of tune.

if there's one thing that irks me though, it's tribute albums.   i mean, can
you imagine an indigo girls tribute album, with some pop-soul diva singing
one of emily's songs?   yuck!

mat
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reply-to:     shannon shevock <slsst2@stulab.sfcpa.edu>
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organization: saint francis college

hello there,

           i'm a 19-year-old , pre- med student from pennsylvania.
i've been a huge fan for about 6 years now.  my friend bob introduced
me to the greatest music i've ever heard.  my favorite song is
"ghost" , but i love "blood and fire" and "you left it up to me" too.
actually, i love *all* the songs.
           i'm a regular on the ig channel on dal net.  we're all
buddies there.  we have fun just talking about nothing at all.
i go by the nick yamaha, 'cause i play a yamaha guitar (acoustic).

           anyway, i would like to subscribe indigo-girls shannon l.
shevock . :)   now that that's out of the way... take it easy!

                                         hugs,
                                         shannon shevock

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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      hey y'all

i guess when you get mail from yourself you know that it works
:) i got a good laugh outta that..
about myself:
i am a fair-weather student at lamar univ in beaumont
texas, that is
i also work part-time at a pizza joint in town, but i'm not gonna tell
you which one because the last thing i need is more customers than i can
handle...but if you're a big tipper i'll find a seat for ya ;)
i first heard indigo girls in the car of a friend that was driving me
home one day after school....i don't even remember the songs but i
remember the feeling i got hearing two beautiful voices in harmony
singing about something that wasn't trendy but actually meant something
(if that makes any sense)
it was about the time that galileo came out because i heard it on the
radio and i freaked out because i hollered out "that's that band from
geoff's car!!!" to no one in particular in the house. my mother didn't
know what the heck i was talking about ;)
i found out at the end of the song that the band was indigo girls and ever
since then i've been a big fan, have collected all their cds, is looking
for bootlegs (especially of lifeblood and finlandia, but if you've got
any i'll be happy) and even has an auto-graphed pic courtesy of rcam..
anyway....i'm really enjoying all this mail about the other ig fans out
there and look forward to more...it's good that there are lots out there..
"sal-ray" a la #indigo-girls on /sefer
oops.../server usd.dal.net
otherwise known as tracy :)
have a good day

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reply-to:     median cat <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         median cat <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      nigc-abba(no important igc)

and i thought i was sure to be the only abba fan on the list!!  something
about that disco groove is just irresistable.....

hey, can anyone else just totally hear ig covering 'take a chance on me'?  i
can hear amy crooning 'if you change your mind, i'm the first in line' while
emily is in the back ground going 'take a chance take a take a take a chance
chance chance chance......'

okay, it scares me how serious i am about this.  but admit it, you know you
listen to them too when you think no one's around, dancing around the room.....

peace and good music (of all types and decades......)
cylinda

at 01:07 am 1/23/96 gmt, you wrote:
>>(which made a nice change from the usual abba that they
>>blast at me)
>
>and what, pray, is _wrong_ with abba ??
>
>:):)
>
>they rule :):)
>
>*runs off to find his abba box set...*
>
>the scary thing is...i'm serious...
>
>@}--,--'---
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subject:      re: break-up?

>hi friends,
>
>
>      what is this rumour? the ig's breaking-up? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
>god woudn't do_ that_ to us after hillary clinton and spam........
>
>
>                                           annie   xoxoxoxooxo

geez...is this pathetic or what?  hillary-bashing on the ig list.

l

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subject:      intro and outro
in-reply-to:  <199601230511.aaa11334@moe.cc.emory.edu>

here's the brief and simplified bio:
        1984: dropped out of college
        1985: played bass for ig (then known as saliers & ray)
        1986: played blues and r&b
        1987: quit music
        1989: played rock
        1990: played jazz.
        1991-93: played folk/acoustic. opened rop tour with gerard
mchugh. appeared on albums by gerard, matthew kahler, al reingold,
kevin, millan & kenzie, others.
        1994: played full-time for m&k
        1996: m&k change name to jake and leave atlanta

        which brings me to the outro: i'm leaving my straight job on jan.
31, and i don't think this account will survive very long once i'm gone.
furthermore, jake/m&k are on tour (thus incommunicado) til march
sometime.
        i've been on this list a long, long time, so if anybody has
anything they need to get off their chest with me, now would be the time.
after jan. 31, the opportunituy will no longer exist.
        thanks, y'all, now go hear some local music...
-chris
              visit
http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/milkenzie/

              please


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from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      cover me grey--last chance!!!

[my apologies to those of you on the digest who have to scroll through all
of this and aren't interested.]


if anyone is still interested in obtaining a copy of the cover tape, this
is your last chance to get one from me.  please follow the instructions
in the announcement that i sent to the list a few months ago (also below).
when i run out of inserts that is that--i won't be getting any more.  so,
i'd like to ask people who will dub the tapes that they have to (1) include a
photocopy of the first page of the insert (the part that tells what the
tape is and all that jazz) in all the tapes you make, (2) please do not
make a fourth generation or lower quality tape (the sound gets really bad
then), and (3) don't sell it or do anything silly like that.  thanks!!

always glad to serve my fellow ig fans,
margaret

****************************************************************************

       well, believe it or not, the cover tape is finally ready!!

what:  cover me grey (title by greg flamer, rock on) is a compilation of
songs that ig have covered and not recorded (with one exception).  it was
put together for pleasure, not profit.  i will be posting this exact
message periodically over the next few weeks.  it has a wicked cool
insert (grey paper--get it?) with artwork designed by ig fans as well as
the lyrics to all the songs included on the tape.  the songs are:

side a
american tune (autzen stadium, eugene, or, 8/22/93)
love of the common people (reverse-1)
cortez the killer (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
summertime (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88, with michael stipe)
bury my heart at wounded knee (radio 1, england, 6/23/95, no band)
bartender's blues (central park, ny, ny, 9/20/92, with sara lee)
water is wide (club r&r)
wild horses (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with michelle malone)
thin line (the backyard (soundcheck), austin, tx, 9/1/94)
melissa (shades)

side b
wild, wild party at the loquat tree (put on your green shoes)
southern man (radio city music hall, ny, ny, 6/28/94, with cooper tisdale
        and kristen hall)
house at pooh corner (shades)
daddy's all gone (shades)
river (toad's place, new haven, ct, 12/9/90)
hairshirt (athens music festival, athens, ga, 9/25/88)
the weakness in me (live at san francisco epic promo--awesome)
down by the river (live at san francisco promo--awesome)
mona lisas and mad hatters (reverse-1)
midnight train to georgia (the palace, new haven, ct, 4/24/95, with gail
        andorsey and jimmy descant)
finlandia (the pier, seattle, wa, 8/17/94, with caroline aiken)


some of the songs on this tape are versions that are to die for.  some
are not.  :)  i did the best i could, listening to sometimes 8 different
versions of a song trying to decide which one to use.  i am pleased to
say that there is only one song that, to me, is not extremely good
quality.  this is a bootleg project, though, so don't complain about the
quality of the tape unless you feel that this disclaimer is misleading.  :)


how to get one:  to get a copy of cover me grey, send $5 and a sase to
the appropriate branch of the tape tree (to be discussed below).  the $5
is to cover the cost of the blank tape (maxell xl ii high bias) and the
cost of the *insert* that goes in it.  the sase (a self-addressed, stamped
envelope) is to make the branches' lives easier.  the tape will be sent to
you in the sase that you send your branch, so you probably want to either
send a padded envelope or include packing materials (like newspaper).

if you live outside the united states:  send me private email and we will
work out a trade.  you will not be using the branches from the tape tree,
you will get your tape directly from me.

all profits, if any, will be donated to an organization which works to
reclaim and protect the rights of native americans.

ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)

if you are an aquarius (1/20-2/18), contact:
jude hunter
jhunter@rtc.gov

if you are a gemini (5/21-6/20), contact:
greg kemp
gkemp@ces.clemson.edu

if you are a sagittarius (11/22-12/21), contact:
joan ferguson
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu

if you are a taurus (4/20-5/20), contact:
pamela shaw
sparkle@primenet.com

if you are a leo (7/23-8/22), contact:
brian colwell
brian@pas.rochester.edu

if you are a libra (9/23-10/22), contact:
mike bunch
mrbcom@earthlink.net

if you are a virgo (8/23-9/22), contact:
martine o'keeffe
okeeffe@lclark.edu

if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
alan fleming
daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com

if you are a pisces (2/19-3/20), contact:
deanna newcomb
deanna@dcez.com

if you are a scorpio (10/23-11/21) or a cancer (6/21-7/22), contact:
margaret clayton
maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

if you are a capricorn (12/22-1/19), contact:
carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu

also, when contacting your branch, make absolutely sure that the subject
line of your message contains the words cover tape (so that the branch
reads it promptly).  i sent this message to the tape tre branches and
cc'ed it to the list, so you should be able to reply directly to your
branch.  please delete all of the other addresses, as most of us don't
want to know that you want a copy of the cover tape (nothing personal).
please do not send requests for the cover tape to the list.  if you forget
who your branch is please wait and i will repost this message in a couple
of days.

well, i think that's it.  if there's anything that i forgot or if you
have any questions, please feel free to send me private email and i will
get back to you.  if i forgot something that warrants another posting to
the list i will do so.  thanks!!!!!

margaret

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reply-to:     prodigal daughter <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
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from:         prodigal daughter <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)

cylinda trying to insert some lively disco into our lives:
>
>hey, can anyone else just totally hear ig covering 'take a chance on me'?  i
>can hear amy crooning 'if you change your mind, i'm the first in line' while
>emily is in the back ground going 'take a chance take a take a take a chance
>chance chance chance......'
>
that's beautiful. i love this song. but amy doesn't croon. frank sinatra
croons. amyray growls.
but i think ig should go back a few more years and cover 'american pie.'

just to disagree with you:)

yen m tang                     "i do not feel the romance
ymt2@lehigh.edu                 i do not catch the spark."
...and cylinda's peanut         --emily saliers "prince of darkness"

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date:         tue, 23 jan 1996 22:39:10 gmt
reply-to:     neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: midnight train guy/ james brady/ hi!
x-to:         jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu

>there is an import version of the swamp ophelia vinyl..it is not autographed...
>and has a song list sticker on both sides...so..side one has only the songs fro
>m side one..and side two has side two listed songs..unlike the auto'd ones..i
>don't remember which country they are from..but..i only know of one other pers
>on who has one..which is why i thought some might not know about it

that sounds like the uk issue (or at least, european.)
i remember thinking at the time it came out that this
version'd prolly end up being the rarer...

not that that made me buy a copy...

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subject:      if your name is not denise - delete immmeediately!! (nigc)

denise...you wrote me about new orleans info but i can't get a message into you.
here it is anyways - i hope this works!
_______
april 26-may 5
unfortunately, according to the recording, a schedule of events will not be
available till march. :p again!!

the address/telephone for the new orleans jazz and heritage festival:
1205 north rampart street
new orleans, la 70116
(504) 522.4786
______
hope to see you there!

avital

avital@lucy.cs.wisc.edu

welcome to the list!! :)

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from:         benjamin slavin <verdi@imap2.asu.edu>
subject:      amy and em on broadway

being somewhat of a musical theatre person i thought i'd open this
thread. o.k. let's say ig are just tired of doing this folk thing and go
into broadway shows. which shows would we go see them in and what shows
would their voices adapt to well as well as shows that don't fit them (ie
oklahoma,little mary sunshine,ect...)
here are my best bets.
1. godspell- this is my favorite musical of all time. even though i
loved their rendition of jcs i think they'd even do a better job with
this show. again amy as jesus and emily singing "day by day" (except for
christ and john noone has charchter names).
2. my fair lady - i know you all would think this is bizzare but
couldn't you just see it. emily as eliza and amy as henry higgins.
o.k., o.k. maybe not but still.....
3. hair - nuff' said. what a show that would be!
i know this is a little silly but humor me:)
talk to ya'll soon,
ben

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from:         noi liang <nql5986@is.nyu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)
x-to:         prodigal daughter <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
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no...listen to erasure covering "take a chance on me" though...it's not
ig, but it's great :)

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from:         assilem <holleys@uamont.edu>
subject:      no jazz & heritage festival info--nigc

i just thought i'd post the web address where you can find some info on the
festival, though i haven't been there lately (long story). it does have a
tentative list of performers and workshops and some other info.
        //www.neworleans.com

sadly, i probably won't be able to make it, even though i pledged my life on
it when this thread first started. our finals week starts right between the
two weekends, and if i'm going to graduate, i guess i should be around for
them.

just one of the girls,
mindigo

p.s.--i'll be available in may...anybody need a roadie/techie?? :) i don't
know where i'm going to look for a job. -sigh-

"mother, can't you see i've got to live my life the way i feel is right for
me/might not be right for you but it's right for me" --sarah mclachlan

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from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: break-up?
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::sob::
lauree, we're so sorry.
personally, i promise to confine myself to hillary bashing on only the
melissa etheridge list.

o:>
------dianne
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on tue, 23 jan 1996, lauree shampine wrote:

> >hi friends,
> >
> >
> >      what is this rumour? the ig's breaking-up? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> >
> >god woudn't do_ that_ to us after hillary clinton and spam........
> >
> >
> >                                           annie   xoxoxoxooxo
>
> geez...is this pathetic or what?  hillary-bashing on the ig list.
>
> l
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on tue, 23 jan 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

>  being somewhat of a musical theatre person i thought i'd open this
> thread. o.k. let's say ig are just tired of doing this folk thing and go
> into broadway shows. which shows would we go see them in and what shows
> would their voices adapt to well as well as shows that don't fit them (ie
> oklahoma,little mary sunshine,ect...)
>  here are my best bets.
>  1. godspell- this is my favorite musical of all time. even though i
> loved their rendition of jcs i think they'd even do a better job with
> this show. again amy as jesus and emily singing "day by day" (except for
> christ and john noone has charchter names).
>  2. my fair lady - i know you all would think this is bizzare but
> couldn't you just see it. emily as eliza and amy as henry higgins.
> o.k., o.k. maybe not but still.....
>  3. hair - nuff' said. what a show that would be!
>  i know this is a little silly but humor me:)
> talk to ya'll soon,
> ben
  okay ben, i'll humor you....

godspell would definitely be the best.  it is by far my fave musical
also, and one other musical that may be interesting....annie, get your
gun with amy ray as annie?  okay, it was just a thought.
love,
aim
>

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subject:      amy's tattoo

has anyone seen what amy's tattoo looks like in full view? (not in
person, but in a photo). the best i've ever seen it is in rop.  i love
tatoo's but don't have the guts to get one myself, so i live vicariously.
i think she not only choose a cool design (from what i've glimpsed) but
also a very appropriate positioning for a guitar player.  you know what?
i'll bet that hurt!

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hi folks,

here's another call for assistance on updating the ig faq.

the faq that we do have is pretty out of date, i think... unless anyone
else is working on updating it?  if so, i'd like to volunteer my services
in assisting.

if not, would anyone like to help me update it?  (thanks mark :).

cheers, folks,
sherlyn

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how about "starlight express"--all skate ...now reverse

joellen


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subject:      nigc - anchorage advice.

hi.  i am a midwesterner and have lived in ohio, wisconsin and illinois all of my life.  a potential (extremely potential) job has surfaced in anchorage, alaska.  it will only be for the summer.

does anyone out there in ig land live in anchorage, or has anyone been there?  would you be willing to tell me what it's like?

thanks for any assistance.
alycia

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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

well, i always was a sucker for a good musical.....let's see.....

for some odd reason i can see emily doing a really great aldonza/dulcinea in
'the man of la mancha', but can't see amy anywhere in the musical.

and i can see amy doing a really great rif (sp?), the best friend in 'west
side story', but can't see emily anywhere in this one......

and i can totally see the 'my fair lady thing happening'....scary.....

cylinda

ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu                  "everywhere i turn all the beauty
                                            just keeps shaking me"
                                                     - amy ray

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subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)

yen amazingly manages to both agree and disagree with me:

>that's beautiful. i love this song. but amy doesn't croon. frank sinatra
>croons. amyray growls.

amyray does to croon.  well, okay, she also growls.  and screams.  and
whispers.  but she croons too.  i direct your attention to 'crazy game' or
'summertime'.  some very fine crooning going on there.  hey, how bout a
amy/frank duet??

>but i think ig should go back a few more years and cover 'american pie.'
good idea

>just to disagree with you:)
right back at you :p

cylinda
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu                  "everywhere i turn all the beauty
                                            just keeps shaking me"
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on tue, 23 jan 1996, amy snyder wrote:

> hi again,
>   i don't mean to be a pain in the ass but i'm listening to so right now and it
> brings up some questions like the one i posted about the voices in "tmf" and i
> am right now listening to "this train".  are the voices at the very beginning
> reading off names or is it something else?  if you haven't heard it, go put it
> on and crank up the volume.  thanx for the help...again.  :)
> peace,
> amy

        i the beginning they are saying the names of people who died in
the holicost.  just a guess.  i thought it was something else but i just
listened to it again and i heard names too.  wow!
        elizabeth


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on tue, 23 jan 1996, amy snyder wrote:

> hi again y'all,
>   i asked a question about a song and then forgot to say what song....the song
> is "touch me fall".  there are voices at the end (starts at about 5:20 into the
> song) that sound like a and e but i can't tell what they are saying.  sorry for
> the slip up and thanx for the help.
> peace,
> amy


        it's amy.  at first she is saying, "trying to hold it like rain
in the river."  it's most prominant in my right speaker when i turn the
bass down.  then she says stuff like, "if i stumble".  she is just saying
the words of the chorus.  i love figuring that stuff out!
        elizabeth, again

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i'd like to see amy ray replace madonna as one positively b*tchy eva
perone!  emily as che?  don't think so . . . .  she'd make a killer gypsy
rose lee!

chris talbot
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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
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> deb <indigo@clark.net> wrote:
>
> > the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how
> > live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,
> > they listed the sales of several recent live albums.
> > they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.

> kinda makes me want to go buy another, though.  it's so clearly a labor
> of love, they really did a great job.

heck, i did buy another one... i went out and got one for a friend's
b-day because i thought 1200c would be a good choice for an ig-less pal. but
then again, a couple of days later she was feeling blue so i bought her a
copy of so. i suppose the natural choice now is nis... hmmmm.

lori

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i can't believe that only 161,000 albums have been sold.  at the best buy
here in kansas city, it was sold out for a month.  i think that's a lie.
also the free magazine here, the pitch reviewed 1200 curfews and loved it.
here's some of it...
"if you are uncertain of their works besides 'closer to fine' and 'galileo'
and are pondering if an investment in the indigo girls is worth it, well, yes
it is.  this live album is a quality representation of the duo.  even if as a
general rule, live albums suck, this one doesn't, and it would make an
appropriate gift for anyone who needs some good music in their life."--jeff
brown.

they also started playing "closer to fine" on the radio recently during "80's
flashbacks".  the only song i have ever heard on the radio by a and e is
touch me fall. but i have almost all their cds.  im missing blue food, and i
have no idea how to get it. the first time i heard about it was on the home
page. does anyone know how i can get this?   im also on the yearbook staff at
my high school and in about every senior advertisement this quote appears...
"the best thing you ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously
it's only life after all."

a and e are finally getting the respect they deserve here in kansas city,
kansas.

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that is the same way with me.  i still can't handle nomads, indians, and
saints, i guess i probably haven't given it a fair shot.  so i wasn't really
wild about either, but now it's definitely one of my favorites.so you aren't
alone in your first impressions.

kelly

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>i can't believe that only 161,000 albums have been sold.  at the best buy
>here in kansas city, it was sold out for a month.  i think that's a lie.

maybe rolling stone have still got a vendetta against us after that e-mail
teri sent them last september ...

mat

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that is sooooo cool. i have had hair stuck in my head all day, gee ams and
ems singing age of aquarius and manchester england......wow....that just
makes me soo happy.

manchester england england....across the atlantic sea...and im a genius
genius...i belive in god and i belive that god belives in claude ...that's
me.....

later y'all
kate

ben said:
> 3. hair - nuff' said. what a show that would be!

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>>also, some artists don't like their live albums as well as their studio
>>efforts, particularly if it's all recorded at one gig, if it's a bad gig.

has anyone heard the eagle's hell freezes over live album?  i think it is
better than any studio album they did-- and that's sayin' something!

jude:)

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>::sob::
>lauree, we're so sorry.
>personally, i promise to confine myself to hillary bashing on only the
>melissa etheridge list.

apology accepted and of course, i am much obliged to you for your
personal commitment to refrain from this popular though misdirected
venting of hostility on all but the me list...a list with a greater
collective neurosis than even the ig list...hard to believe, i know...

l

ps long live the patriarchy :)

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i realize the faq (and most of the web pages) are a bit out of date (this is
due to many reasons -- the most important being the possible sale of the
'mtp.com' domain).  once i am certain where the pages are going to be
(either remain where they are or moved to a new location) .... new pages
(with new graphics (can you say java?)) and a new faq will be up.

marianne

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subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)

cylinda tries to justify herself (don't worry, i'm not looking):

>amyray does to croon.  well, okay, she also growls.  and screams.  and
>whispers.  but she croons too.  i direct your attention to 'crazy game' or
>'summertime'.  some very fine crooning going on there.  hey, how bout a
>amy/frank duet??

yeah right. over sinatra's dead body. something about ole blue eyes and
whatever color amy's eyes are that don't mesh. though wayne newton could work.
a few years from now, when amy and emily split up, emily becomes a librarian
while amy is showboating in las vegas. she'll have second billing to wayne. 5
nights a week. sure beats the heck out of touring. and there's slots! lotsa
shiny slots!

unless, of course, they actually stay together until they can collect social
security. but i don't see that happening. i think amy is destined to become a
lounge lizard.

and summertime is one of their few bad covers.

>>just to disagree with you:)
>right back at you :p
when do you want to get nasty? cause i'm ready when you are...:)


yen m tang                     "i do not feel the romance
ymt2@lehigh.edu                 i do not catch the spark."
...and cylinda's peanut         --emily saliers "prince of darkness"

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subject:      a&e songs scattered and hidden

just thought i'd alert all you ig fans...

      if you haven't yet heard it , a and e do a great cover of "it
won't take long"  on the spirit of '73 album, an album that is under
the rock for choice thing.  great song, michael lorant joins them.
other great covers by other great bands/singers.  if you don't have
it, get it!  good investment .  i can't remember the original artist,
but a & e thank her in 1200c.  oh well...

                       shannon :) (yamaha on irc)

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subject:      amy a crooner (minimal igc)

ah, the lengths yen will go to to disagree with me:

>yeah right. over sinatra's dead body. something about ole blue eyes and
>whatever color amy's eyes are that don't mesh.

mesh smesh!  i think you're selling both of them short.  i mean, frank and
bono did it, so why not frank and amy?  okay, so maybe frank and bono wasn't
the best idea in the world.......but can't you just hear amy _crooning_ "i
did it my way?"

>a few years from now, when amy and emily split up, emily becomes a librarian
>while amy is showboating in las vegas. she'll have second billing to wayne. 5
>nights a week. sure beats the heck out of touring. and there's slots! lotsa
>shiny slots!

uh huh, you would have emily being a quietly respectable librarian while
consigning amy to opening the floor show at caesar's for <ugh> wayne
newton?? and i can see emily in vegas just as easy as picturing amy
there.....that's it....no more touring, they're gonna set up permanently in
vegas, 5 nights a week......no more closing with ctf, now it'll be "one for
my baby, one more for the road" as they trade in their martins for a
wardrobe full of polyester.....
(and hey! those slots are _fun_ to watch go round and round and round....)

>and summertime is one of their few bad covers.
how can you say that???  okay, so its not joplin, and it's certainly not
billie, but it's not _bad_ either......

>when do you want to get nasty? cause i'm ready when you are...:)
any time, yankee girl....i'm your huckleberry.  though the list would
probably appreciate our restraining ourselves.......

off to find my boxing gloves,
cylinda
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu                  "everywhere i turn all the beauty
                                            just keeps shaking me"
                                                     - amy ray

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subject:      re: this train

>from:    amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
>subject: re: this train
>
>hi again,
>  i don't mean to be a pain in the ass but i'm listening to so right now and it
>brings up some questions like the one i posted about the voices in "tmf" and i
>am right now listening to "this train".  are the voices at the very beginning
>reading off names or is it something else?  if you haven't heard it, go put it
>on and crank up the volume.  thanx for the help...again.  :)
>peace,
>amy

        i don't know exactly what they are saying at the beginning of this
train, but i do know that at cornell's holocaust memorial each year they
have someone reading the names of holocaust victims all day long.  i think
that they also do something similar at the holocaust memorail in jerusalem
(can't remember the name, think it's for the childrens' memeorial part).  it
might be something like that.  or, at the ig concert i saw in rochester last
fall, they brought several people from the big fish ensemble onstage for
"this train".  instead of the jacob's ladder intro the lead singer said the
mourner's kaddish (sp?), the jewish prayer for the dead.  it was very
moving, really emotional.  i'll have to go home and listen for the voices on so.

peace,
        karin

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from karen:
>
>         i don't know exactly what they are saying at the beginning of this
> train, but i do know that at cornell's holocaust memorial each year they
> have someone reading the names of holocaust victims all day long.  i think
> that they also do something similar at the holocaust memorail in jerusalem
> (can't remember the name, think it's for the childrens' memeorial part).  it
> might be something like that.  or, at the ig concert i saw in rochester last
> fall, they brought several people from the big fish ensemble onstage for
> "this train".  instead of the jacob's ladder intro the lead singer said the
> mourner's kaddish (sp?), the jewish prayer for the dead.  it was very
> moving, really emotional.  i'll have to go home and listen for the voices on
> so.

that sounds wonderful ... you know, if there ever comes a time like yen's
apocalyptic prophesy when the indigo girls are apart, i hope that they release a
back catalogue of the better songs the indigo girls never released, including
live songs, and i hope they include this one.   this proves what that guy said
on the inside back cover of 1200c that the indigo girls never let a live song be
just a recital, they are always living and breathing ... (or something like that
anyway, i don't know if it was russel carter or the bloke from the boston
globe).

mat
mts5@aber.ac.uk

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>a few years from now, when amy and emily split up, emily becomes a librarian
>while amy is showboating in las vegas. she'll have second billing to wayne. 5
>nights a week. sure beats the heck out of touring. and there's slots! lotsa
>shiny slots!
>
>unless, of course, they actually stay together until they can collect social
>security. but i don't see that happening. i think amy is destined to become a
>lounge lizard.

i get the impression that you're a big emily fan ... i am too but i doubt
that amy is destined to become a lounge lizard, yen.   you're forgetting
that amy works good and hard running that daemon label which she said once
that she channels a lot of the money she gets from being ig into.   as far
as i know the only concern emily has is the common pond, and i'm sure that
eats up a lot less money than does daemon records (which is a non-profit label).

oh, and emily a librarian?   i think a book publisher would be more in
emily's league, so she can have the pleasure not only of reading "all those
cool books" but of making money out of them too ...

jesus, isn't this all a bit cynical?   and who's to say they won't be
staying together until they can claim their pensions ... or even beyond
that?   remember johnny cash is still going big (in fact he's had a sort of
revival since he did that album with rick rubin) and he still invites his
dear old wife june carter onto the stage every night.

and, i hate to sound ignorant but ... who's wayne newton?

mat
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hey all,

caroline aiken asked me to post this to the ig list and the atlanta artists
list.  she even typed it herself :)  real late notice, but we'll toss it out
there anyhow...

also, thanks for the kind words regarding caroline, ride the wood, and her
daughter during the new year's festivities in atlanta.  i forwarded the
messages to her and she got a kick out of reading them.  remember to check
out her website for updated tour dates:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/

lorene machado
manager

**************************************************************


on wednesday, january 24th, ride the wood (caroline aiken and "mo" from
mother's finest) goes on at 10pm at lou's blues revue on ponce deleon in
atlanta georgia. the phone is 404-249-7311 and it's located across from the
old ford factory and sears blgs. there are free tickets for everyone who
would like to come. please email me via my manager, lorene machado
(loreq@primenet.com), and i'll leave your tix at the door.  put "caroline
aiken" tickets in the subject line.

we also will be performing at the industry seminar held at lou's blues revue
on thurs, jan 24th. performance at 7:30 kicks off the first panel.
saturday, jan 27th, we will be at the wild wing cafe, in marietta, starting
at 10pm 770-509-9464

that's it for this week..if you're not in this area...road trip!!!!:)

thanks for allowing me the "group shot"....may we visit 'one on one' soon.

caroline

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>
>         i don't know exactly what they are saying at the beginning of this
> train, but i do know that at cornell's holocaust memorial each year they
> have someone reading the names of holocaust victims all day long.  i think
> that they also do something similar at the holocaust memorail in jerusalem
> (can't remember the name, think it's for the childrens' memeorial part).  it
> might be something like that.
hello, everyone

just to add another bit to the this train holocaust thread:

the holocaust memorial in jerusalem is called yad vashem and the
children's memorial is called simply that.  the memorial contains a
single candle mirrored thousands of times and one walks along a circular
path through the darkness while they broadcast a reading of read children's
names.  one of the interesting things is that they read the names in a
variety of accents--french, german, polish, english. if you listen
*really* carefully to the beginning of tt you can hear similar accents.
upon seeing this post i shoved tt in the cd player, cranked it up, and
found myself wandering the corridors of yad vashem for a third time.  a
little spooky . . . but moving.

something else that seems sparsely related is the demonstrations of the
aids quilt, the solemnity of it all, the repetition of names, wandering
around in silent grieving horror looking, wondering how could this
happen, where is god?

a little morbidly yours,

chris talbot
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that
the universe could be so
kind as to be godless."
                --kevin  smith

> mourner's kaddish (sp?), the jewish prayer for the dead.  it was very
> moving, really emotional.  i'll have to go home and listen for the voices
on so.
>

p.s. wow . . . .

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>>and, i hate to sound ignorant but ... who's wayne newton?

>>mat

oh, he's a main attraction at one of lasvegas' nightclubs, maybe the largest
since wayne never does anything half-assed.  always bigger and glitzier than
the last time he did it.  his audience is composed mostly of retired
citizenry (white sausage curls and hair combed over the spot, ear to ear).
probably moved to vegas cause his middle name is death valley...he sort of
looks like a cross between a dead elvis and a comotose bill gates.  oh, and
he thinks he can sing.

jude :)

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mat,

      if you're serious about that wayne newton thing... well you
don't want to know who he is, believe me. :)  btw, i really don't
think amy ray would have the patience to even be in the same room
with wayne... i think she might do it as a joke , but anything more
just doesn't seem possible to me.


       why are we even *talking* about ig breaking up someday
anyway?  i don't see that happening if god really exists.  :)

                                     shannon shevock (yamaha)

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i would like to respond to this.
my impressions of amy have left me thinking that she has an attitude
problem. i don't know where it comes from, but she is a lot of the time,
very stand-off-ish.  i think she chooses when to be social.  when the jcs
thing was going on up here, she was almost completely an anti-social.
there's nothing wrong with that, it's just the way she is. she's been in
the spot light for so long, i think that when she gets off the stage she
really just wants to chill and be left alone (or with cooper).  ofcourse,
another part of that whole situation, was that she was extremely tired
from performing and rehearsing, and she was and often is very frustrated
with her voice.  at the time, she was also using a lot of drugs just to
stay energized.  i think sometimes she just tries to do too much and it
takes a toll on her.  so let's not think of her as a bitch.  although
she's got every right to be a bitch, it just gets old trying to smile for
everyone.....  but sometimes for no apparent reason she still seems to
have that little attitude...  must be what i find so attractive!!!

on fri, 19 jan 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

>  i think it's time to write a follow up to my amy "bitch" comment. using
> that term was not one of complete disrespect. many other list members
> have used that same word to discribe her. if i really thought she was a
> bitch and her music was futile would i really be on this list? i was
> simply commenting on my impressions of her from other list members. she
> seems very removed and stand-offish. i really don't think it was a rude
> comment so i don't think an apology is in order. i think amy ray is one
> of the most passionate,talented, and giving people. i was simply
> commenting on the way she comes off, that's all.
> talk to y'all soon (being a little more careful about what i type),
> ben
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>cylinda tries to justify herself (don't worry, i'm not looking):
umm, hello? hey you two! can i step in here?

>>amyray does to croon.  well, okay, she also growls.  and screams.  and
>>whispers.  but she croons too.  i direct your attention to 'crazy game' or
>>'summertime'.  some very fine crooning going on there.  hey, how bout a
>>amy/frank duet??
i've gotta go with cylinda on this one. she also chatters, and buzzes, and for
all i know she rattles and hums too. oh, and she whistles, though not as well
as she croons. :)

>yeah right. over sinatra's dead body. something about ole blue eyes and
>whatever color amy's eyes are that don't mesh. though wayne newton could work.

brown. they're brown. you ever take a look at a lil' ol' thang we ig fans know
as the _rop_cover_????? oh, i forgot. you never look at amy. (oops! i'm
supposed to be nice. sorry! nice yen. nice yen.) :)

>unless, of course, they actually stay together until they can collect social
>security. but i don't see that happening. i think amy is destined to become a
>lounge lizard.

lounge lizard, yes. slots, yes. but not wayne newton, and not sinatra. she'll
(of course) team up with elvis. duh. i imagine emily will stop by occasionally
when she's taking a break from her busy schedule as a "big screen" actress,
and an mc for major tv award shows. she'll probably play a few slots too, and
maybe sign an autograph for amy. (if she hasn't lost her generous nature, that
is.) :) :)
(i hope i don't need to say this, but i'm kidding!! :)

>and summertime is one of their few bad covers.
i'm just gonna let that one slide cuz you're so wrong that i can't even
justify taking the time to answer it. :):)

(ok, now i've done it. not only will i be kicked out of my own car, but i'll
probably be banned from the list. :) yen! don't hurt me!! i'm only trying to be
nice to emily cuz i promised i would!!)

probably shoulda stayed outta _this_ argument ;)
lorindigo

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lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

on 23 jan 96 at 16:05, benjamin slavin wrote:

>  being somewhat of a musical theatre person i thought i'd open this
> thread. o.k. let's say ig are just tired of doing this folk thing and go
> into broadway shows. which shows would we go see them in and what shows
> would their voices adapt to well as well as shows that don't fit them (ie
> oklahoma,little mary sunshine,ect...)

ok ben, i'll bit.

my choices would be:

1) jcs. i know amy did this, but i didn't get to see it (i was
    unemployed and completely broke at the time) amy as jesus.
    emily as mary m. k.d. lang as judas (i just want to hear her sing
    'damned for all time').

2) hair. one of my all time favorite musicals.

3) the sound of music.

anything by tim rice.

peace,

dan
"although it was spontaneous, you'd think that it was well
planned. the day the bass players took over the world"
                                   -emily kaitz

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subject:      attention amanda johnson

dear amanda

i read your intro. on the list a few days ago, but have lost your
e-mail address. if you like mary chapin carpenter, have you got the
live tape - "listen to your heart"? if not, drop me an electronic
line!

happy daze


andrew

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subject:      nonsense igc: duet

yen m tang said:
----------------------------original message----------------------------
>>amy/frank duet??
>yeah right. over sinatra's dead body. something about ole blue eyes and
                  ^^^^^^^

oh...i thought she meant phranc, the lesbian folk singer...

anna   whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu

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hi darren!


q>1) how can i get one of those cool t-shirts you were selling at eddie's
>attic a few weeks back?
>
a: you can purchase t-shirts by sending $20 (money orders or good personal
checks) to: kristen hall t-shirts c/o 814 edgewood ave. ne atlanta, ga
30307.  100% cotton...xl only
specify: sage w/collage, white w/album art, or black w/white...i also have
a limited amount of collectable erly's t's for $15. they are black w/white
logo.

q>2) if you could work with any musician, living or dead, who would it be?

a: john lennon

q>3) what is your favorite album of all time (not including your own...)

a: this is a fairly impossible question for me.  not long ago i was asked
to list my ten favorites and almost lost my mind trying.  i will say this,
the first two albums i bought with my own money, and, on the same day, were
alice cooper "killer" & james taylor "sweet baby james".  this may help you
to understand why this question is impossible to answer.

q>4) any plans to come back to houston?
>
a: no current plans to leave home, although i'm sure my path will lead me
to houston again someday.

thanks for tuning in...kristen
>
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at 5:15 pm 1/24/96, perry thompson wrote:
>hi deborah!
>>
>>q:) if you had 3 wishes what would they be....
>>
>a:  1.  food and shelter for everyone
>    2.  affordable and/or free healthcare for everyone
>    3.  five more wishes...
>        1.  cure for all diseases
>        2.  dodge viper
>        3.  money to pay insurance on the viper
>        4.  garage w/house for the viper, my dog, and me
>        5.  that me and my dog could die on the same day.
>
>fyi: bcwywf

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subject:      ig on the net?

hi all. happy hump day!

i was just reading through some of my old saved messages and noticed
one that looks to be like emily responded to it, it thanks some guy named
"gary" for the nice words about the red rocks concert in '94, wishes for
a great christmas, and amy's christmas wishes too. i am just wondering...
is this for real? is it ia joke? did someone "pretend" to be emily?

i'm totally confused.

the message is dated 12/23/954

thanks to anyone who can clue me in on this!

susan
p.s. to those of you who are waiting for a copy of "in with the out crowd"
from me, never fear. i am slowly getting them done! sorry!

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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from:         sue harney <sharney@smith.smith.edu>
subject:      amy and emily on broadway

i have one and only one word for you:

cats.

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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway
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in "west side" how about transposing maria down for emily:)

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subject:      y'all....sheesh

i can't believe all this i'm hearing on this list..sheesh
amy has a right to her privacy...has a right to be a bitch
i'm sure she goes through a lot of pressure...and when you fugging
wanna be left alone, you wanna be left alone :)
i should know...i've felt the same way....
sal-ray

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from:         perry thompson <rainy@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: question for kristen
x-to:         alan fleming <alanf@dorje.com>

hi alan!

>
q:>for the past couple of years, i've been keeping a discograhy for some
>of the unsigned atlanta musicans.  now that kristen is with high street
>(and they could concievably handle a discog for public consuption,
>does she care if this is maintained?
>
a:  what does this mean, in babytalk?

q:>if not, would she mind looking it over for glaring omissions and/or
>mistakes.
>
a:  depending on how thorough you care to be, (ie: other peoples records
i've sung/played on, compilation discs, etc.) the only "glaring omission"
would be the putamayo "shelter" cd.

q:>finally, what's sulli up to these days?  i hear she's playing around
>atlanta some.  if you don't mind, pass along a "hello" from me.

a:  sulli is doing great.  just got a new car and still makes me laugh.
alot!  love her to death.

fyi:  i'm flattered that you took the time to compile this list.  if you
want more info, let me know...kristen
>
>---------8<--------------- begin included file ----------------->8--------
>
>
>   unoffical discography of kristen hall
>
>   may not be distributed for financial gain.
>
>
>> indie releases
>
>#01) kristen hall
>     kristen hall/john fristoe          cs only
>     1989
>
>  from the liner: the tape was recorded live in john fristoe's living
>  room except _howie_ and _it's allright_ recorded live at trackside
>  tavern, decatur, ga on july 6th, 1989.
>
>time: ?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#01.1  enough's enough                          kh
>#01.2  just so you know                         kh
>#01.3  fighting an urge                         kh
>-
>#01.4  i think it's pride                       kh/jf
>#01.5  howie                                    kh
>#01.6  it's all right (okay?)                   kh
>
>
>
>
>#02) real life stuff            cd: cvp-2
>     hetzel records             cs: ?
>     1990                       vinyl: ?
>
>   first cd release.  the album is dediated to her grandpa.
>   the album was later picked up by deamon records when kristen
>   released _fact & fiction_ with that label.  island was not
>   included on the cassette release.  the original hetzel release
>   has a different cover photo from the second hetzel pressings.
>   the deamon pressings use the second hetzel cover.
>
>time: ?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#02.1  i don't need you anyway                  kh
>#02.2  it's allright                            kh
>#02.3  chicago 5am                              kh
>#02.4  truth hurts (don't it)                   kh
>#02.5  grandpa's song                           kh
>#02.6  not since i found you                    kh
>#02.7  howie
>#02.8  change your mind                         kh
>#02.9  just so you know                         kh
>#02.10 stranger in my bed                       kh
>#02.11 fade away blind                          kh
>#02.12 island                                   kh
>
>
>
>#03) kristen hall band bootleg
>     ?                          cs only
>     199?
>
>   the band consists of: simone simonton (drums), dave franklin (bass),
>   cooper tisdale (guitar) and kristen hall (guitar, vocals).  there
>   isn't a copyright date on the tape, so i'm unsure exactly when it
>   was released.  victor wertz has a copy that has a j-card with the
>   following information: songwriter's demos - october-november.
>   he believes that this was produced to fulfill her songwriting contract
>   with bmg.
>
>time: ?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#03.1  very busy man                            kh
>#03.2  not since i found you                    kh
>#03.3  enough's enough                          kh
>#03.4  just so you know                         kh
>#03.5  trouble times                            kh
>-
>#03.6  too long running                         kh
>#03.7  fading away                              kh
>#03.8  prey to you                              kh
>#03.9  bed we made                              kh
>
>
>
>> us national releases
>
>>> studio albums
>
>
>#04) fact and fiction           cd: 72902-10316
>     high street                cs: ?
>     1993
>
>   this album was originally released under the daemon records
>   label but was taken over by high street when kristen signed
>   with them.  the original daemon number was: 7-5053-2
>
>time: ?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#04.1  empty promises                           kh
>#04.2  too long running                         kh
>#04.3  i gave everything                        kh
>#04.4  i should know                            kh
>#04.5  colder                                   kh
>#04.6  fading away                              kh
>#04.7  out in the country                       kh
>#04.8  i have my reasons                        kh
>#04.9  safe and warm                            kh
>#04.10 bed we made                              kh
>#04.11 peaches                                  kh
>#04.12 trouble times                            kh
>#04.13 wish i may                               kh
>
>
>
>#05) be careful what you wish for       cd: 72902-10326-2
>     high street                        cs: ?
>     1994
>
>   this is the album kristen has recorded with high street records.
>   the song writing is incredible and backup musicians such has
>   kristian bush, john sebastian, matthew sweet and emily saliers
>   lend their hands (and voices).
>
>time: ?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#05.1  cry tomorrow                             kh
>#05.2  heaven knows                             kh
>#05.3  open arms                                kh
>#05.4  proud man                                kh
>#05.5  nothing                                  kh
>#05.6  following my compass                     kh
>#05.7  prey to you                              kh
>#05.8  moment in a day                          kh
>#05.9  just so you know                         kh
>#05.10 seeds of a lifetime                      kh
>#05.11 let it rain                              kh
>#05.12 don't tell me                            kh
>
>
>
>>> cd singles
>
>???
>
>
>
>> uk and other european releases
>
>???
>
>
>> promotional releases
>
>>> cd singles
>
>#6)  radio compilation
>     high street records                cd promo: wd-93-12
>     1993
>
>   from the label: special compilation for aaa & alternative radio.
>
>time:                                   13:36
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#06.1   empty promises+                 3:53    kh
>#06.2   just so you know++              2:53    kh
>#06.3   very busy man++                 3:22    kh
>#06.4   it ain't me babe+++             3:29    bob dylan
>+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)
>++  from kristen hall band bootleg
>+++ from a tribute to bob dylan vol.1 -
>      the times they are a changing (sister ruby sis-001)
>
>
>> sampler appearances
>
>
>
>#7)  the times they are a-changin'
>     sister ruby records        cd: sis 001
>     1991
>
>     bob dylan tribute album by atlanta artists
>
>time:                                  46:12
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#07.1  rainy day women #12 & 35                 [david harris]
>#07.2  stuck inside of mobile with the          [catbird seat]
>         memphis blues again
>#07.3  tangled up in blue                       [indigo girls with drag
>                                                  the river]
>#07.4  buckets of rain                          [wendy bucklew]
>#07.5  when the ship comes in                   [david franklin]
>#07.6  i'll be your baby tonight                [michelle malone]
>#07.7  it ain't me babe                         kristen hall
>#07.8  if you see her say hello                 [the ethel mertz experience]
>#07.9  masters of war                           [kevin kinney]
>#07.10 fourth time around                       [peter williams]
>#07.11 you ain't goin' nowhere                  [feel like you]
>#07.12 the times they are a-changin'            [eddie owen]
>
>
>
>
>#8)  putumayo presents the best of folk music: contemporary folk
>     rhino records                      cd: rs-71448
>     1993
>
>time:
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#08.1  past the point of return                 [mary black]
>#08.2  irresistible targets                     [john stewart]
>#08.3  hammer and a nail                        [indigo girls]
>#08.4  ireland                                  [greg trooper]
>#08.5  never go back                            [christine lavin]
>#08.6  know when to move                        [john mccutcheon]
>#08.7  play me backwards                        [joan baez]
>#08.8  turning away                             [dougie maclean]
>#08.9  out in the country+                      kristen hall (kh)
>#08.10 who woulda thunk it                      [greg brown]
>#08.11 mine fields (from years to hours)        [catie curtis]
>#08.12 b.b. king was wrong                      [john gorka]
>#08.13 my father's shoes                        [cliff eberhardt]
>+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)
>
>
>
>#9)  christmas present vol. 2           cd: sis 010
>     sister ruby
>     1993
>
>     ltd. edition of 1000, produced by peter williams and jeff bakos
>
>time:
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#09.1   nutrocker                               [surfside seven]
>#09.2   christmas (baby please come home)       [anne richmond boston]
>#09.3   the christmas song                      [shawn mullins with
>                                                        david patterson]
>#09.4   christmas                               [big fish ensemble]
>#09.5   christmas this yea                      [hootie and the blowfish]
>#09.6   merry christmas
>          (i don't want to fight tonight)       [doll squad]
>#09.7   listen the snow is falling              [engine]
>#09.8   i'll be home for christmas              kristen hall
>#09.9   blue christmas                          [stevie t.]
>#09.10  we three kings                          [dew]
>#09.11  i believe in father christmas           [the backyard swings]
>#09.12  merry christmas baby                    [steamroller]
>#09.13  nothing but a child                     [scott roberts]
>#09.14  feliz navidad                           [ottoman empire]
>
>
>
>#10) the leak, winter '94 sampler cd
>     the leak                           cd: winter 94
>     1993
>
>     the leak is a music magazine that comes with a cd.  winter '94 was
>     the primier issue.
>
>time:
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#10.1  career moves                             [loudon wainwright iii]
>#10.2  fit in                                   [anthony crawford]
>#10.3  tearing down this place                  [freedy johnston]
>#10.4  hidden from view                         [sara k.]
>#10.5  are you happy now?                       [richard shindell]
>#10.6  too long running+                4:02    kristen hall (kh)
>#10.7  losin' it                                [vigilantes of love]
>#10.8  wisdom                                   [david gray]
>#10.9  look at the wind blow                    [ellis paul]
>#10.10 time to go home                          [bill morrissey]
>#10.11 egos like hairdos                        [ani difranco]
>#10.12 the man who would be king                [john stewart]
>#10.13 taxi                                     [the samples]
>#10.14 crystal river                            [pete kennedy]
>+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)
>
>
>
>#11) true story
>     soundwave studios                  cd: ?
>     1994
>
>     this cd was put out as a benifit for the task force for the
>     homeless.
>
>time:
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>#11.1  last american poet                       [billy pilgrim]
>#11.1  city of sin                              [big fish ensemble]
>#11.1  i've changed                             [josh joplin]
>#11.1  salvation                                [wild west picture show]
>#11.1  merced river road                        [david franklin]
>#11.1  porch song                               [wendy bucklew]
>#11.1  life during wartime at the majestic      [chief seattle]
>#11.1  unheard voices                           [gerard mchugh]
>#11.1  maurice                                  [five-eight]
>#11.1  on the trellises                         [catbird seat]
>#11.1  deep end                                 [vigilantes of love]
>#11.1  hermaphrodite life                       [insane jane]
>#11.1  never gonna be the same                  kristen hall
>#11.1  utopia is somewhere else                 [uncle green]
>#11.1  the gathering                            [michelle malone &
>                                                band de soleil]
>#11.1  gotta move on                            [drivin n cryin]
>#11.1  street wish                              [randy blazak]
>
>
>
>> guest appearances
>
> [...this info will be compiled at a later date...]
>
>
>> other information
>
>
>>> official fan club
>
>   kristen hall fan club
>   c/o russell carter management
>   315 w. ponce de leon ave., suite 755
>   decatur, ga  30030
>
>>> birthdays
>
>kristen hall  b.  10-24-1963  grosse point, mi
>
>
>
>> author and acknowledgements
>
>this discography has been compiled by alan fleming (alanf@dorje.com)
>from personal experience, albums, tapes, cds and hopefully corrections
>from messages on the internet indigo girls electronic mailing list.
>information on the indigo girls mailing list can be obtained by
>sending "help" via email to:  listserv@netspace.org
>please send corrections or additions to the author.
>
>the format of this discography is shamelessly stolen from steve
>clark's exhaustive indigo girl's discography.  stephen developed
>the format so it would be easy to edit using emacs.  since i'm a
>diehard vi user, i haven't conformed to his layout.
>
>hopefully, there will soon be a long list of folks that helped fill
>in the sketchy info that i have provided.  i'll even add you name to
>this thing if you help out.  remember, that number again is:
>
>   alanf@dorje.com
>
>
>i've already recieved help from:
>victor k. wertz
>steve clark
>deb
>
>----------8<--------------- end included file ----------------->8---------
>
>--
>think peace.
>- alan (alanf@dorje.com)
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subject:      re: question for kristen hall
x-to:         claudia <claudiav@xs4all.nl>

hi claudia!

q:  when are you coming over to europe? i live in the netherlands and can never
>see you perform live. you were support act for the ig in america, can't you
>do that in holland also?

a:  i can't wait to play in europe.  amsterdam is one of my favorite
places.  i adore van gogh.  unfortunately, it isn't my decision where or
when i play with indigo girls.  if it was, i'd never play anywhere else.  i
don't know if this interests you or not, but a woman from canada named
amanda marshall is currently touring europe.  the first single from her
album is my song, "let it rain", from "be careful what you wish for".  it
has just gone gold in canada, and with a little luck it will be sucessful
in europe as well.  so...requests to the radio stations in your area would
be a lovely gesture.  i think she has an amazing voice and i'm anxious to
hear what you think of it.  do write back if you have the chance to see her
live, see the video, or hear the song on radio.   thanks for your
letter...kristen

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 16:45:37 -0500
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      sara lee

hi all.

i am trying to find out what other groups sara lee has played bass
in. i think she played in gang of four, and plays in another group
when not doing ig related stuff.

if anyone has info. on sara lee, please e-mail me. this is driving my
crazy..(crazy game.. i never should....).also, i am a bass player and
sara lee is my main inspiration, so i want to find out what else she
has done.

thanks all,

peace and stuff.

dan dan the bass playing man.
"although it was spontaneous, you'd think that it was well
planned. the day the bass players took over the world"
                                   -emily kaitz

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from:         andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
subject:      attention kristina in bellingham

hi!

i was reading your intro the other day, and noticed that you
mentioned you liked bily bragg and michelle shocked. i seem to be
having a bad e-mail address week (as i've lost yours somewhere), but
think i might have a vid which combines these two artists. if
interested, mail me!


happy daze


andrew

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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      re: 1200 curfews sales figures

> on sun, 21 jan 1996, mr rodney s wicker wrote:
>
> > the most recent issue of rolling stone features an article about how
> > live albums don't sell as well as studio albums.  to prove the point,
> > they listed the sales of several recent live albums.
> >
> > they listed 1200 curfews as selling 161,000.
> >
> > i didn't read the article, but i don't consider it news that live
> > albums don't sell as well as studio ones!!!
>
> not to mention double cds.
>
> kinda makes me want to go buy another, though.  it's so clearly a labor
> of love, they really did a great job.

well, i am doing my part to raise the sales figures.

in addition to my copy, i gave two copies away as christmas presents,
i am giving another copy away as a birthday present in febuary, and i
am sending my ex-girlfriend and her partner a copy as a 1 year
anniversary present.

detecting a trend here?

basically anyone i know who has any sort of celebration coming up can
expect a copy of 1200 c from me!

moo.

dan perkins
"although it was spontaneous, you'd think that it was well
planned. the day the bass players took over the world"
                                   -emily kaitz

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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      oh puh-leeeeeease!!!!

i wish everyone would stop thinking about if ig is gonna break up
if it happens, it happens....but let's not dwell on it, shall we???
amy a lounge lizard??? i laugh at you! *ha* i believe em and amy
have a lot more intelligence in them to be more than a barstool warmer
and a librarian....i see them as teachers.....molding the minds of youth
i like that idea much better
but i'm not a fortune teller....so i shut my mouth *ziiiiiiip*
you know what's really hard? seeing a picture that you drew of amy
ripped up and in the garbage can....my grandmother did that last night
i worked so hard on that picture and she tore it down just because i put
four tiny holes in the wall with pushpins to hang it up...*sigh*
it says in the bible that god tests the good people
i must be a really good person.....i'm sick of all this pain
but it'll go away soon....and i haven't lost my hands..
i'll just make another picture of amy and be on with my pathetic life
by the way, kids....don't ever leave home and then come back...
you get charged for rent...trust me :)

shannon, if you're reading this....i told my mother that i was gay...
she cried, but she said she already knew...*sigh*
at least she didn't kick me out! :) *knocks on wood*
see you soon....tace

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reply-to:     dan gordon <c664358@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
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from:         dan gordon <c664358@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
subject:      hello

hey all. i'm relatively new on this list--this is my first posting. i'm 18, and
a freshman at the u. of missouri-columbia, heading toward a major in journalism
. i've got a fair amount of ig, but i'm a relatively new fan and i don't have n
qs or rop yet. will soon! my hometown, by the way, is normal illinois. yes, the
re is such a place.
i've seen ig in concert once, at illinois wesleyan university's shirk center in
bloomington, il in april of last year. they rocked . . . but i don't need to t
ell you that.

guess that's about all for now. only question i have is if anyone has ever hear
d of the band jackopierce, from dallas, tx i think. they're great too.

dan

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 16:37:03 -0600
reply-to:     und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu
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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      sara lee

any body know if sara lee has played for any other bands besides ig?
sal-ray

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 14:39:13 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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subject:      questions for kristen

just a follow up...you can send questions to kristen in care of
perry (rainy@mindspring.com) until monday the 29th at noon.

*if you want the answers to be be private to you and not to the
list please say so!* otherwise kristen will happily let us all
know what is up.  :)


(hi kristen!)


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
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reply-to:     dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
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from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: amy and emily on broadway
x-to:         sue harney <sharney@smith.smith.edu>
in-reply-to:  <01i0eajkf3lkb01oqt@smith>

cats?
oh, my. sue, are you trying to start a new thread? we had the 'dogs'
album not too long ago (so)....

meow!
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on wed, 24 jan 1996, sue harney wrote:

> i have one and only one word for you:
>
> cats.
>
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reply-to:     perry thompson <rainy@mindspring.com>
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from:         perry thompson <rainy@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: question for kristen hall
x-to:         "duane j. corpis" <djc6028@is2.nyu.edu>

hi duane!

q:  i'm wondering when you are going to play in the new
>york area again.

a:  no plans of leaving home at the moment, but i certainly will let
everyone know as soon as plans are made.  i'm considering spending time in
upstate ny during the olympics...so...

q:  also, what is "proud man" about?

a:  i wrote proud man for a friend after listening to her tell me a story
about her jerk (this is as polite a word as i can use here) father.  he is
under the sad assumption that money makes a person sucessful.  he is very
proud of himself and his money and the power that brings him.  because of
the way he has treated his children and wife, i find him to be pathetic.
presently, he finds himself alone.

thanks for asking...kristen

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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

> into broadway shows. which shows would we go see them in and what shows
> would their voices adapt to well as well as shows that don't fit them (ie
> oklahoma,little mary sunshine,ect...)

guys and dolls

with amy playing sky masterson (luck be a lady tonight)
     emily as sgt sara brown (i'll know when my love comes along)


let's see...who else...gerard mchugh as nathan detroit
                       mark reynolds as nicely, nicely

l

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 16:59:18 -0600
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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway
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in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960124140542.5523a-100000@email1.asu.edu>

okay......what about grease.....?!?

i go to a small private school in tx....and today in our school
cafeteria...the elevator music was replaced with "joking"  "least
complicated" and "thin line"   i almost fell out of my chair!  i sang
along with the words and have been grinning the rest of the day!

--jamie

        "i don't care, cause sometimes, i hear my voice and it's been
                        silent all these years"   -tori amos

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x-to:         sylvia <slf104@psuvm.psu.edu>

hi sylvia!

>q:     who was her favorite member of josie and the pussycats, and why?
>
a:  alexandria.  the bad girl with the black and white hair.
because she made my mistakes seem so small...and i dug her hair...kristen

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subject:      re: : amy r

        ok new thread on the amy "bitch" thing.  how many of you out
there, like myself, call yourself a bitch and consider it a compliment.
i like to hear the word.  i think amy is cool as hell because she is a
bitch.  come on fess up.....

jen "the bitch"

guys come on i know you some of you admit to being a dick.

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i wasn't bowled over by sf fist hearing, personally...rop knocked me off
my feet, as did the first album and so.  now i hafta say i love all of
them, though some get listened to less than others.

--mike

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okay, now i get it...i just was listening to 1200c for the first time and
i now understand the comotion about who said those four little words.  i
positively cannot tell, so i can dig why there's been some disputing
about it.

proud to be among the indoctrinated,
mike

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subject:      re: sara lee
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              jan 24, 96 4:45 pm

sara lee was also the bassist on the b-52's cosmic thing album.

i was proud somehow =)

                        -- chris

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subject:      re: a. ray

hi all-

i don't want to be a downer on this discussion but might we consider that
discussions about amy and/or emily's personal drug habits (positive or
negative) be left out of this listing?

as long as society has a paranoia about those who use drugs (other than the
socially sanctioned alcohol and tobacco), talk like this starts to become
accusational as it relates to the law.  the last thing i want to see is amy
or emily deciding to step out of the spotlight because of drug rumors.

a little consideration might save us from losing their precious music.

peace-
ron

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from:   miranda detore[smtp:inxsive@u.washington.edu]
sent:   wednesday, january 24, 1996 11:57 am
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        re: a. ray

i would like to respond to this.
my impressions of amy have left me thinking that she has an attitude
problem. i don't know where it comes from, but she is a lot of the time,
very stand-off-ish.  i think she chooses when to be social.  when the jcs
thing was going on up here, she was almost completely an anti-social.
there's nothing wrong with that, it's just the way she is. she's been in
the spot light for so long, i think that when she gets off the stage she
really just wants to chill and be left alone (or with cooper).  ofcourse,
another part of that whole situation, was that she was extremely tired
from performing and rehearsing, and she was and often is very frustrated
with her voice.  at the time, she was also using a lot of drugs just to
stay energized.  i think sometimes she just tries to do too much and it
takes a toll on her.  so let's not think of her as a bitch.  although
she's got every right to be a bitch, it just gets old trying to smile for
everyone.....  but sometimes for no apparent reason she still seems to
have that little attitude...  must be what i find so attractive!!!

on fri, 19 jan 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

>  i think it's time to write a follow up to my amy "bitch" comment. using
> that term was not one of complete disrespect. many other list members
> have used that same word to discribe her. if i really thought she was a
> bitch and her music was futile would i really be on this list? i was
> simply commenting on my impressions of her from other list members. she
> seems very removed and stand-offish. i really don't think it was a rude
> comment so i don't think an apology is in order. i think amy ray is one
> of the most passionate,talented, and giving people. i was simply
> commenting on the way she comes off, that's all.
> talk to y'all soon (being a little more careful about what i type),
> ben
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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 15:30:53 -0800
reply-to:     michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: live albums nigc
x-to:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
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i have heard hell freezes over...and the biggest problem wth it is the
lack of new songs played live.  i really liked get over it and learn to
be still, but why didn't they play them in the concert?

for my money, the best live album out there besdies frampton is csny's 4
way street.  great songs, and great music talent go on display.  check it
out!

--mike

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 15:33:30 -0800
reply-to:     paula laine <plaine@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu>
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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960124165655.17408a-100000@ralph.southwestern.edu>

how 'bout
the rocky horror picture show

amy would be a bitchin frank-n-furter and emily as janet?

pl

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subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)
x-to:         matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <199601241734.maa07022@netspace.org>

all right y'all, i am going to place my opinion on the aforementioned ig
breakup sometime down the road.  my own thoughts are that it will never,
ever, ever happen.  ever.  never ever.  not in a hundred thousand million
billion zillion quadrillion years.  amy and emily will be singing
together until one or both of them are dead.

unless they want to break up.

--mike

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 16:38:36 -0700
reply-to:     alan fleming <alanf@dorje.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alan fleming <alanf@dorje.com>
subject:      re: cover me grey--last chance!!!

<margaret clayton (maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu) wrote:>
>
>ok..  the tape tree is being done by sign.  :)  so, scroll down until you
>find your sign and then contact your branch to get his or her real life
>address so that you can send him or her your $5 and sase.  i matched the
>signs of the branches with who they're dubbing for, so you're virtually
>guaranteed not to hate your branch.  (they're also all really cool dudes!)
>
> [...list pruned...]
>
>if you are an aries (3/21-4/19), contact:
>alan fleming
>daflemi@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com
>
actually, my email address has changed.  the new email address is:
        alanf@dorje.com

for anyone keeping track, i'm changing jobs.  the account as uswest.com
will go away on feb. 1.


as for the "intro" thread:
   i'm 28.  a professional computer geek.  just moved to the mountains of
colorado from atlanta last april.  first heard ig in '85 at emory.

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think peace.
- alan (alanf@dorje.com)
kotbbbb (1988 gsxr1100j)  racebike (ft500)  dod# 4210  pgp key available

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 15:46:57 -0800
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: ig on the net?
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my thoughts exactly...anyone know if that was really emily?

--mike

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subject:      re: : amy r
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in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960124180743.25139a-100000@juliet.ucs.indiana.edu>

i am not a dick, but i do admit to being an occasional bastard.

--mike

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from:         median cat <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc-abba(no important igc)

howdy once again (i'm feeling rather postal today....)

lorinda throws her hat into the ring....
>>cylinda tries to justify herself (don't worry, i'm not looking):
>umm, hello? hey you two! can i step in here?
sure lorinda, the more the merrier!  you just have to be on _my_ side--oh,
and watch out for yen's left jab, it's wicked :)

concerning amy's eyes:
>brown. they're brown. you ever take a look at a lil' ol' thang we ig fans know
>as the _rop_cover_????? oh, i forgot. you never look at amy. (oops! i'm
>supposed to be nice. sorry! nice yen. nice yen.) :)
(giving lorinda a mid-air high five for that lovely slam dunk over yen's
head.....)
um, actually, am i the only one who's noticed that amy's eyes tend to change
colors????  really.  has anyone out there noticed this??  i'm almost
completely 100% positive that in the 'galileo' video her eyes have a very
'hazel' appearance....

>>and summertime is one of their few bad covers.
>i'm just gonna let that one slide cuz you're so wrong that i can't even
>justify taking the time to answer it. :):)
ahh, more wonderfully wise words from the mouth (keyboard?) of lorindigo....

>(ok, now i've done it. not only will i be kicked out of my own car, but i'll
>probably be banned from the list. :) yen! don't hurt me!! i'm only trying to be
>nice to emily cuz i promised i would!!)

um, actually, lorinda, can i have a ride in your car?? (i promise that i
think amy's r&j is light years better than dire straits....)i have a feeling
we're both gonna be needing to make a quick getaway to escape the wrath of a
certain yen......

off to watch galileo to solve the mystery.....
cylinda
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu                  "everywhere i turn all the beauty
                                            just keeps shaking me"
                                                     - amy ray

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 19:18:06 -0500
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from:         amy benore <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
subject:      re: : amy r
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hey, in response to jen, i love it when people call me a bitch.  it just
means that sometimes you have to push and shove and fight the so-called
"establishment" to get what you really want.
on another note...i want to know if everyone is registered to vote.  we
need everyone to vote this fall....after all, all of mr. buchanon's fans
probably will...yikes!!

any political junkies out there....?

love,
aim

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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

on 24 jan 96 at 15:33, paula laine wrote:

> how 'bout
> the rocky horror picture show
>
> amy would be a bitchin frank-n-furter and emily as janet?


yes yes absolutely.

sara lee as columbia.

jerry as meatloaf.

cool.

peace,

dan


"although it was spontaneous, you'd think that it was well
planned. the day the bass players took over the world"
                                   -emily kaitz

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subject:      re: : amy r

okay, this is what i think of the whole amy ray is a bitch thing...


      frankly, i don't know what she's like, but if she's a little
testy at times, oh well.  i think she's allowed to be.  besides, i
just don't think that amy, who writes with such passion and
enthusiasm, could be a bitch.  from what i've seen, she seems to be a
bit of a smart-ass (and i mean this in an entirely good way.  she
cracks me up).  but even if she is, big deal.  poor woman probably
can't remember what it's like to be fairly unknown.

     anyway, that's my opinion.

                                    shannon shevock (yamaha)

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from:         kelly woodward <woodwardkp@aol.com>
subject:      re: an introduction

i kind of forgot to introduce myself yesterday.
my name is kelly and i am a junior in high school.
my first ig experience was my freshman year.  i went out with some friends
and one of them put on rop, specifically romeo and juliet, and i loved it.
but i didn't know it was the indigo girls.   a few months later, i heard r &
j again at camp. i found out it was a and e, and as soon as i got home from
camp i went out and bought rop.  i think i listened to it a million times
that day, i love every single song on that album.   two weeks later, i got
so, and i liked that one even more.  then i heard "mystery" on "party of
five", and i was hooked.  i bought sf, ig, botby, and nis within the next few
weeks, right after christmas, and have been an avid fan ever since. i've also
added 1200c (the day it came out) to my collection.  they toured here in kc
about three times and i still have never been to their show.  i was supposed
to go for my birthday last year, but my friends called too late and it was
sold out.  i was depressed.  hopefully i'll see them eventually.  the closest
i've come to seeing them live was a disney channel concert.  talk to yall
later.

kelly

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from:         kelly woodward <woodwardkp@aol.com>
subject:      re: random playing of ig

i was in the grocery store today, and all of a sudden, "power of two" came
on.  i about died right there in the store.  i was so excited!!  i was
dancing and singing--people though i was just another psycho sixteen year
old.  i was also in old navy a couple weeks ago and "touch me fall" came on.
i flipped out, and again was dancing and singing, because the only place
i've ever heard ig is in my car when i listen to my cds so i was so pumped
that these places were broadening their musical horizons, and playing my
favorite band in the whole world!!!

i've gotten six of my friends hooked on the indigo girls, too.  i always made
them listen to them with me in my car.   now every single one of them has
1200c and so.  one of my friends has almost all of them, all thanks to me.

kelly

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boy, i'd love to hear emily do it, but then i'll also miss that puerto
rican accent tremendously:)
gavin

on wed, 24 jan 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

> in "west side" how about transposing maria down for emily:)
>
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subject:      happy birthday!!
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hi erica!!  hope you have a very happy, merry, groovy, cooter-dooter
birthday!!

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in a message dated 96-01-24 21:47:04 est, und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu (tracy l.
fears) writes:

>any body know if sara lee has played for any other bands besides ig?
>sal-ray


uh, the only ones i know for sure are b-52's (87-89?), the raging hormones
(her own band), thompson twins, robyn hitchcock (1981 or 82), gang of four
(until 1984), and stilettos (also her own) 'way back (relatively) in the late
70's.  why i didn't put those in chronological order is beyond me.
stupidity, i guess.

              -danna

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subject:      [fwd:  fw: important!  hiv  experiment]
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              avital@cs.wisc.edu, dminer@mailsrvr.bussvc.wisc.edu,
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x-cc:         miner@rc.ophth.wisc.edu, m-ulrich@students.uiuc.edu,
              mharr07@emory.edu, teresa_diez@radian.com

please forward without changing forward headers.....
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from: fanning, john
to: mclean, flynn
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: wednesday, january 24, 1996 9:29am

lease put out on list.serv, e-mail and all nac.

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forwarded from: fanning, john
microsoft mail v3.0 ipm.microsoft mail.note
from: williams, ken
to:  fanning, john
subject:  fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: 1996-01-24 06:57
priority: 5
message id: e0ea80ce
parent message id: bb12d8e8
conversation id: 12d4a57d


john,  i'm passing this along to you.  its part of an experiment.
please
pass it along.  we could get this sucker around the world!  ken
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from: ingraham, val            (dec)
to: gayle, helene d.; camlin, carol; colbert, gerri; holmes, delores;
prescott, faye; westover, boni; stewart, barbara a.; waller, bob;
crissman,
criss; martin, chad; waters, cindy; robinson, carol; davis, david;
brownell,

dave; jarvis, dennis f.; rugg, deborah l.; drotman, peter; triplett,
dorothy; parks, bruce; lowe, erica; west, gary; nowak, glen; lasure,
george;

cleveland, janet; buehler, jim; leslie, jill; stark, kathleen; wooten,
karen

g.; frnka, karen; rauch, kathy; williams, ken; norris, katherine;
austin,
lynn a.; hightower, dwan; pinckney, l; wright-deaguero, l; lachanse,
linda;
ogden, lydia; vance, michael; kennedy, may; shepherd, melissa;
scarlett,
margaret; willingham, mary; snider, mimi; monterroso, marcia; ransom,
myrna;

brown, octavia; farnham, paul; bloom, peggy; franceschin, patrizia;
polk,
regene; booth, ruby; valdiserri, ron; schindler, steve; dietz, sue;
robinson, stacy; smith, teresa; hammond, terry; everson, towanda;
brimer,
theresa s.; jones, t. steve; evans, ann; golden, wendy m.
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: tuesday, january 23, 1996 5:09pm
priority: high

i guess i can do my bit also and pass this little bugger along.
----------
from: elam, l. patrick
to: issa, nabil; ezell, richard; conley, robert h.; mcwaters, robert;
baker,

tim; uhrinek, andy           (dec); foster, david a.; verell, dale;
hutton,
tom; edwards, vicki; morgan, meade; wallace, yvonne h.; parks, bruce
            (dec); ingraham, val            (dec); miller, dan
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: tuesday, january 23, 1996 1:47pm
priority: high

do not erase this unprotected e-mail experiment.  please read entirely
and
forward as instructed.
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from: jaeger, richard
to: elam, l. patrick; scarlett, margaret
cc: jones, greg (os)
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: tuesday, january 23, 1996 1:17pm
priority: high

no reflecation, but a good idea that this young person came up
with....rick
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from: thompson, locke
to: jaeger, richard; cicatello, robert; scott, billy; webb, charles
j.;
forbes, robin
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: tuesday, 23 january, 1996 9:22am
priority: high

do not erase this unprotected e-mail experiment.
----------
from: austin, nealean k.
to: carey, albertha y.; moore, bernice a.; taylor, glynnis; thompson,
locke;

carter, atlena; bloom, peggy; simpson, leah; leutzinger, craig l.;
webb,
linda a.; waller, michael n.; gay, michael t.
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: monday, january 22, 1996 2:13pm
priority: high

i'm glad that this is only an experiment.  if not, it would be
detrimental
to cdc.  remember do not erase any of this.
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from: abernathy, kimberly s.
to: austin, nealean k.; guilmette, teri; tips, nancy m.; abernathy,
susan;
longley, selden; dunaway, cliff; belloni, james; kresnow, marcie-jo;
'may,
angie (smtp)'
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: monday, january 22, 1996 11:21am


----------
from: johnson, merna
to: carmichael, donna c.; abernathy, kimberly s.
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: monday, january 22, 1996 11:11am


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from: friday, jennifer
to: millender-steele, joyce; brown, adrienne s.; carey, albertha y.;
moore,
bernice a.; valentine, julia l.; boyd, kimberly p. (towe); orum,
sharon p.;
archer, kenneth a.; caldwell, kimberly h.; yeargin-allsopp, marshalyn;
robinson, arthur; grant, claudette; brown, clive; buchanan, sharunda
d.;
smith, sakeena; dominique, yvette; gardner, f. hugh; grainger, james;
dickerson, sharon; rogers, theresa; richards, frank o.;
redmond-leonard,
joan; smith, charlene; hall, janice; lesure, ruthie l.; truman,
benedict i.;

smith, jeannette; davis, yvette; hayes-wilson, brenda; walker-momon,
carmen
d.; watkins, charles h. (charlie); roberts, diane r.; taylor,
emmanuel;
carter, joseph r. (od-atl); butts, june d.; harris, karen; warren,
rueben c
dds drph; porter, sue j.; durham, thena m.; gayle, helene d.; jester,
alesia; hadgu, alula; harris, benita; adams-rivers, cynthia; marshall,
cynthia d.; graham, donna; hale, david j.; denson, deberal; barnes,
frankie;

glover, john h.; gaiter, juarlyn; valentine, jo; hutchins, kathleen;
taveras, sam; cylar, thomas; jenkins, bill; benton, lisa d.; greene,
veronica; burley, william c; goff, joyce; boyd, maureen; hutchins,
sonja;
murrain, william; williams, joe; williams, walter; pelton, andrea;
hollis-hughes, adrienne; harris, cynthia; kapu, moses;
williams-fleetwood,
sharon; stokes, lynette; blair, carl; carnes, linda; coulberson,
sandra;
williams-johnson, mildred; tyler, sarita; pearson, michele l. md;
henderson,

tonya s.; smith, dawn; dean, hazel; miller, kim; stringer, veronica;
gilliam, aisha; triplett, dorothy; wooten, karen g.; ransom, myrna t.;
russell, carolyn j.; lyons, cynthia; quarles, freida r.; essien, dr.
joyce
d.; harris, ruth e.; lindsey, bryan; bryan, gloria b.; vernon, mary
e.;
duckworth, melanie; griffith, marcia; johnson, merna; foley, megan;
presley,

letitia; brown-douglas, robyn; green-phillips, angela; beckles,
gloria;
liburd, leandris c.; thompson-reid, patricia e.; carr, annie b.;
perry,
geraldine; green-ajufo, barbara; blackmore, cheryl; green, clarice;
scott,
cheryl; rowley, diane; evans, laurie; english, lorna mcleod; tucker,
pattie;

iyasu, solomon; duncan, wayne; green, yvonne; duncan, carlton;
bennett,
eddas m.; lewis, del; nkuchia, john; williams, kymber; moeti, refilwe;
robinson, robert g.; lee-pethel, rebeca; lewis, yvonne; crosby,
alexander;
miles, al; ross, benjamin; jones, brigetta l.; moore, benjamin;
branche-dorsey, christine; curtis, diana; watkins, delilah wendy;
stennies,
gail; roberts, george w.; friday, jennifer; beale, latanya; crawford,
shaunette; blakney, thomas e.; thornton, tim; barner, valerie;
gissendaner,
p.; cason-tucker, irene; shelton, linda; huff, millie; whitaker,
patricia;
joseph, emmanuel; mayberry, robert; oliver, priscilla; poulson,
michael;
robinson, steve; sokei w. harry
subject: fw: important!  hiv  experiment
date: monday, january 22, 1996 10:02am

this is a long one.  do  not erase any of it, it is part of the
experiment.
jf
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from: long, mark
to: crosby, alexander; watkins, delilah wendy; krug, etienne;
stennies,
gail; roberts, george; friday, jennifer; potter, lloyd b.; dahlberg,
linda
l.; hammett, marcella; ikeda, robin; barner, valerie
subject: important!  hiv  experiment
date: monday, january 22, 1996 9:15am

this kid is doing a nice job of demonstrating disease transmission -
please
keep it going.

msl
----------
from: leeman, gregg
to: li, carl (alaska); floyd, louise; tully, sandra; grant, claudette;
tips,

nancy m.; keiser, niki; smith, sakeena; long, mark
subject: fw: fwd: important! hiv (?) experiment
date: wednesday, january 17, 1996 12:10pm

ok -- i'll pass it along, too.  this is a *long* message that just
keeps
going down the page.

gregg
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from: schindler, steve
to: moore, kevin g.; jones, paula m.; kresse, elizabeth e.; renaud,
michelle; swan108w; leeman, gregg; pardi, marco; lehnherr, john r.;
lipshutz, judy; shirah, jerry k.; spencer, jack n.; miles, john;
stone,
katherine m.; wright-deaguero, linda k.; schultz, pamela b.; noegel,
richard; hayden, christopher h.; schieffelbein, carl w.; keegan,
robert;
rauch, kathy; leak,  l'tanya; kennedy, may; willingham, mary; polk,
regene;
rosenblatt, seth
subject: fw: fwd: important! hiv (?) experiment
date: thursday, january 11, 1996 5:47pm

now you're all part of young bradley's "experiment."  there's no
turning
back now.  please read on.  --steve
----------
from: dietz, sue
to: syverson, carolyn p.; robinson, arthur; prescott, faye; waters,
cindy;
jarvis, dennis f.; cleveland, janet; leslie, jill; stark, kathleen;
hightower, dwan; lachanse, linda; brown, octavia; schindler, steve;
dietz,
sue; everson, towanda; emrick, rian; carol schechter; dietz, james
ph.d.;
holtgrave, david
cc: dietz, sue at home
subject: fw: fwd: important! hiv (?) experiment
date: thursday, january 11, 1996 12:49pm

dear all:
here's an interesting school project!  please read the note that i
have
copied to the top of this email and then forward it to your email
lists.  do

not erase the email trail of addressees - it's part of the author's
experiment!
sue

> >>>>>>subject: aids
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>for a class project, i was wondering if this could be passed on to
prove
> >>>>>>a point.  in my human sex class, we learned that if someone has
received
> >>>>>>the hiv disease, and they don't know about it, they could pass it on
to
> >>>>>>people who they don't even know.
>
> only by having sex with them or sharing needles.  aids is not transmitted
> by casual contact.  it is not transmitted by sharing toothbrushes, toilet
> seats, casual kissing, or shaking hands.
>
> unless you are in the habit of swapping blood with strangers, you will not


> give aids to people you don't know.
>
> >>>>>>        could you all pretend that i have hiv, and i gave it to you.


> >>>>>>then could you pass it on to your friends?  let's see if the entire
> >>>>>>e-mail population could get infected by me alone.
> >>>>>>        please remember that this is a lab experiment.  i have to
say
> >>>>>>that i am not intending to offend any one in any way.
> >>>>>>        by the way, don't erase this or the forwards from your
computer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thankyou
> >>>>>>young bradley
> >
>
----------
from: cotton
to: dfj1; robinson carol; sed4; antjshx; bep2; bstephens; bym2;
charris207;
chodgson; dfd1; dxh2; ferguson; hzh0; jsh3; jtp0; kenzor; kxm3; lys7;
mboling; semaan; sgill; soc0; vtemplet; wdj0; wohlfeiler; reed; gordon
subject: fwd: important! hiv (?) experiment
date: wednesday, december 20, 1995 4:56pm

folks,

i'm not sure if this is so much an experiment in hiv transmission as
it is
an
interesting example of social networks.  now, if we could only find
out what
the
relationships were between all those people.....i'm sure there's a
paper in
here
somewhere.

please pass this on, with all the "forwards" intact.

thanks,

david

______________________________ forward header
__________________________________
subject: fwd: important! aids (fwd)
author:  lezin at macro-atl
date:    12/20/95 1:39 pm

nicole,

  i thought your friends at the center for disease control
might find this interesting . . . if they haven't already gotten
a thousand copies.  from now on i'm wearing rubber gloves when
i turn on my computer.

     ted

>
> i am forwarding an email experiment.  the original message is all the way
> at the bottom.  all of the mailing lists are part of the point.
>
> the message makes an interesting point about the importance of aids and
the
> danger to the entire population.  however, there is a good deal of
hysteria
> about aids.  it is important to note that:
> most of us have more email partners than sex partners
> unprotected email is more common than unprotected sex
> aids is not transmitted through casual contact, but almost exclusively
> through sex and sharing iv needles
>
> -mj
>
> >from: lcsyzygy@eworld.com
> >date: sun, 17 dec 1995 13:00:49 -0800
> >to: mijanger@umich.edu
> >subject: fwd: important! aids (fwd)
> >status: ro
> >
> > sounds like an interesting experiment.   lynn c.
> >---------------------
> >forwarded message:
> >from:   lg5ls@aol.com
> >to:     lcsyzygy@eworld.com
> >date: 95-12-17 10:39:11 pst
> >
> >ok, now we're part of "young bradley's" experiment.  profound project,
huh?
> > pass it on.......
> >---------------------
> >forwarded message:
> >from:   gutschl@ucsub.colorado.edu (gutsch leah)
> >to:     stevan@tenet.edu
> >cc:     lg5ls@aol.com
> >date: 95-12-16 17:54:08 est
> >
> >
> >i thought that this was intersting...just a survey type thing that was
> >passed along to me so you can pass it along to your other e mail pals!!!
> >take care love ya, leah
> >
> >---------- forwarded message ----------
> >date: 13 dec 95 13:26:00 est
> >from: anne klug <anne.klug@washcoll.edu>
> >to: gutschl@ucsub.colorado.edu
> >subject: important! aids (fwd)
> >
> >
> >
> >--- forwarded message from quentin bailey ---
> >
> >>date: 13 dec 95 12:10:15 est
> >>from: quentin bailey
> >>subject: important! aids (fwd)
> >>to: student.fr@blitz
> >
> >
> >
> >--- forwarded message from thomas gattone ---
> >
> >>date: 13 dec 95 10:45:47 est
> >>from: thomas gattone
> >>subject: important! aids (fwd)
> >>to: natalie brecht, jennifer simpson, kelly george, natashia eberly,
johanna
> >tole, spannal0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (amanda spann),
> >dailyjm0@seraph1.sewanee.edu, samuels@acavax.lynchburg.edu,
gmheck@pond.com,
> >karen dilossi, jessica villecco, alison weller, azimmerm@email.unc.edu,
> >adrienne gemmell, lyndi townsend, bethany beacham, tracey pascal, mary
> >hoffman,
> >keidel_sf@academ.wvwc.edu, andrew lantos, quentin bailey, charles norton,


> >lawrence krebs, michael crews
> >
> >
> >
> >hello everyone,
> >normally i do not pass on messages with multiple forwarding lists ahead
of
> >the
> >text, but this one is a bit different.  i copied the original message
from
> >the
> >bottom so you can reach the point without spending minutes scrolling
through
> >many e-mail addresses.
> >
> >please pass this message on (and do not edit the forwarded addresses!); i
> >believe young bradly is demonstrating an extremely valid point about aids
and
> >hiv.
> >
> >thank you!
> >
> >*******
> >
> >>>>>>for a class project, i was wondering if this could be passed on to
prove
> >>>>>>a point.  in my human sex class, we learned that if someone has
received
> >>>>>>the hiv disease, and they don't know about it, they could pass it on
to
> >>>>>>people who they don't even know.
> >>>>>>        could you all pretend that i have hiv, and i gave it to you.


> >>>>>>then could you pass it on to your friends?  let's see if the entire
> >>>>>>e-mail population could get infected by me alone.
> >>>>>>        please remember that this is a lab experiment.  i have to
say
> >>>>>>that i am not intending to offend any one in any way.
> >>>>>>        by the way, don't erase this or the forwards from your
computer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thankyou
> >>>>>>young bradley
> >--- forwarded message from mary jefferson ---
> >
> >>date: 13 dec 95 10:39:31 est
> >>from: mary jefferson
> >>subject: important! aids (fwd)
> >>to: anthony@copland.udel.edu, pettyjoh@inet.net, jeffdav1@aol.com, taryn


> >venner, abigail gunnels, jessica tunison, jackie smith, ronnetta church,
> >danica
> >heath, liz mangano, kurt kroeger, amy hoffman, fabrice cellier, kimberly
> >hardesty, mary jefferson, natalie smith, antoine duvauchelle, perry
schatz,
> >luis torres, christina chiarchiaro, mindie.kaplan@blitz, pearl pham,
lauren
> >levine, lawrence krebs, lunadraco@aol.com, rweston@angrc.ang.af.mil,
> >wilj351@aol.com, catherine barrett, tanya bennett, kristin callahan,
michelle
> >chin, nicole chmura, gina coco, leanne cole, donica collier, colleen
cusick,
> >robin diamond, liza dickson, elizabeth doppler, shane-erin dwyer, kelly
> >eakin,
> >morgan geissler, denise hakanson, amy harmon, heather harper, danica
heath,
> >rebecca herrera, mary jefferson, emily kessler, kari lee, kimberly
morgan,
> >sara
> >neutzel, carrie persina, jill schultz, stephanie self, dawn simms, tina
> >smith,
> >nicole wagner, ida whayland, nicole zemanski, allison breidenstein,
patricia
> >thomas, april stout, tanae coates, leslie shimono, megan bradley,
> >phchen@chencompserv.com, mikinho@unm.edu, karen walker, thomas gattone,
paula
> >link, amy tingle, elizabeth likens, robyn mitchell, melisa olson, frances
> >overall, kurt sommer
> >
> >
> >
> >*******
> >
> >--- forwarded message from vhamner@mailsrv.muskingum.edu (vince hamner)
---
> >
> >>x-sender: vhamner@mailsrv.muskingum.edu
> >>x-mailer: windows eudora version 1.4.4
> >>mime-version: 1.0
> >>content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>to: mary.jefferson@washcoll.edu
> >>from: vhamner@mailsrv.muskingum.edu (vince hamner)
> >>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >
> >
> >ordinarily i wouldn't participate in such a scheme.  however, the idea is


> >just clever enough that it deserves to propagate.  aids via e-mail...
what
> >next?
> >
> >>date: tue, 12 dec 1995 16:15:53 -0500 (est)
> >>from: robert smith <smith@sjfc.edu>
> >>to: vince hamner <vhamner@vax.cns.muskingum.edu>
> >>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>
> >>interesting project
> >>
> >>
> >>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>date: tue, 12 dec 95 13:10:38 est
> >>from: center for the study of sleep deprivation
<eric.s.smith@williams.edu>
> >>to: lasher17@aol.com, smith@sjfc.edu, daniel.t.mccue@williams.edu,
> >>    laura.k.moberg@williams.edu, mary-jane.v.rubenstein@williams.edu,
> >>    aaron.d.weinberg@williams.edu, urzettjm@snyalfva.cc.alfredtech.edu,
> >>    melissa.t.aoyagi@williams.edu, joshua.s.falk@williams.edu,
> >>    william.h.chang@williams.edu, yung-en.chen@williams.edu,
> >>    mark.r.darrigo@williams.edu, david.m.finkelstein@williams.edu,
> >>    mary.e.glendon@williams.edu, najeeb.n.khoury@williams.edu,
> >>    laura.s.massie@williams.edu, jeffrey.a.macey@williams.edu,
> >>    samuel.s.seljan@williams.edu, daniel.e.sullivan@williams.edu,
> >>    matthew.terzella@williams.edu, sfgibb@mail.wm.edu,
> >>    daas@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
> >>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>
> >>>date: tue, 12 dec 1995 13:01:31 -0500 (est)
> >>>from: laura k moberg <laura.k.moberg@williams.edu>
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>to: julie a zlotnick <julie.a.zlotnick@williams.edu>
> >>>cc: leigh <leigh.a.winter@williams.edu>,
> >>>        adrienne conte <conteam@bigvax.alfred.edu>,
> >>>        kelly shinn <kelly.shinn@williams.edu>,
> >>>        allessandro volta <eric.s.smith@williams.edu>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>date: tue, 12 dec 1995 12:22:46 -0500 (est)
> >>>from: bronwen <bronwen.m.halacy@williams.edu>
> >>>to: kristen n curtis <kristen.n.curtis@williams.edu>,
> >>>    naima f glover <naima.f.glover@williams.edu>,
> >>>    laura k moberg <laura.k.moberg@williams.edu>,
> >>>    jessica l richman <jessica.l.richman@williams.edu>,
> >>>    anne katharine v dunlop <anne.katharine.v.dunlop@williams.edu>,
> >>>    kendra t field <kendra.t.field@williams.edu>
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>date: tue, 12 dec 1995 00:26:47 -0500 (est)
> >>>from: lindsay <lindsay.r.sellers@williams.edu>
> >>>to: daphne c king <daphne.c.king@williams.edu>,
> >>>    squiggy <austin.n.chang@williams.edu>,
> >>>    stephen d bennett <stephen.d.bennett@williams.edu>,
> >>>    bronwen <bronwen.m.halacy@williams.edu>,
> >>>    i love buffett <craig.d.branca@williams.edu>,
> >>>    skipper <jennifer.j.walcott@williams.edu>,
> >>>    maryanne <victoria.martinez@williams.edu>,
> >>>    gilligan <gillian.c.morris@williams.edu>,
> >>>    stephen g danbusky <stephen.g.danbusky@williams.edu>,
> >>>    sprogell <rsprogell@aol.com>, poonam sharma <pqs6236@is2.nyu.edu>,
> >>>    ines leung <il15@cornell.edu>,
> >>>    kristin javaras <javaras@fas.harvard.edu>,
> >>>    carrie conklin <jcconk@mail.wm.edu>,
> >>>    beth clarke-pounder <eclarke@emory.edu>,
> >>>    maggie brokaw <mbrokaw@wellesley.edu>,
> >>>    michael s cleary <michael.s.cleary@williams.edu>
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>date: mon, 11 dec 1995 21:47:07 -0600 (cst)
> >>>from: julie patricia wilhelmy <jpwilhel@artsci.wustl.edu>
> >>>to: kwilhelm@skidmore.edu
> >>>cc: nknoble@skidmore.edu, lindsay.r.sellers@williams.edu,
> >>>    mchoh@emerald.tufts.edu, smithf@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>date: mon, 11 dec 1995 21:22:52 -0600 (cst)
> >>>from: amanda sue mason <asmason@artsci.wustl.edu>
> >>>to: lynne miron <lgmiron@artsci.wustl.edu>
> >>>cc: julie wilhelmy <jpwilhel@artsci.wustl.edu>,
> >>>    ross brooks <brooksr@simon.wustl.edu>,
> >>>    ben westhoff <brwestho@artsci.wustl.edu>,
> >>>    allison menell <amenell@sas.upenn.edu>,
> >>>    josh rosenberg <jzrosenb@sas.upenn.edu>,
> >>>    mike wirgin <mkwirgin@students.wisc.edu>,
> >>>    stacey fersko <smfersko@students.wisc.edu>, nicky sanz
<ngs106@psu.edu>
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      hey.  this is for you.  do not be offended- just do it.  thanks.
> >>>love, me
> >>>
> >>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>date: mon, 11 dec 1995 21:45:23 -0500
> >>>from: jennifer kaufman <jlk28@columbia.edu>
> >>>to: ahoffman@abacus.bates.edu, ab7645a@american.edu, nw39@columbia.edu,


> >>>    skinglake@wesleyan.edu, avi29@wharton.upenn.edu, jlevi03@emory.edu,


> >>>    mhiller@emory.edu, be82840@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu,
> >>>    egol1768@uriacc.uri.edu, jls60@columbia.edu, mjt18@cornell.edu,
> >>>    js450@columbia.edu, asmason@artsci.wustl.edu, ys157@columbia.edu,
> >>>    papa bear <sguthart@abacus.bates.edu>
> >>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>
> >>>>from: kaufperson@aol.com
> >>>>date: mon, 11 dec 1995 18:59:18 -0500
> >>>>to: jlk28@columbia.edu
> >>>>cc: shapiros@pipeline.com, budd2@aol.com, barrow@emerald.tufts.edu,
> >>>>        wjc7@cornell.edu, brookiefe@aol.com,
> >ws96ilr@westjr.jtwn.k12.pa.us,
> >>>>        mbenatar@gramercy.ios.com, jan99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu,
> >jeffr100@aol.com,
> >>>>        miyoung@du.edu, hkomedia@aol.com, skinglake@wesleyan.edu
> >>>>subject: fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>>
> >>>>i guess this means that i've "slept" with everyone on this list!
ewwwwwww!
> >>>>love,
> >>>>sarah
> >>>>
> >>>>---------------------
> >>>>forwarded message:
> >>>>subj:    fwd: aids (fwd)
> >>>>date:    95-12-10 21:24:44 est
> >>>>from:    tamarafi
> >>>>to:      kaufperson
> >>>>cc:      shapiros@pipeline.com,hkomedia
> >>>>cc:      drozlo,mbenatar@gramercy.ios.com
> >>>>cc:      enigma2749
> >>>>cc:      oseytan@spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il
> >>>>cc:      jan99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu.
> >>>>cc:      t_durdaller@smcvax.smcvt.edu
> >>>>cc:      mia_haber@ca.pvt.k12.ma.us
> >>>>cc:      slandau@bernard.pitzer.edu,j21c
> >>>>cc:      mark0130@tc.umn.edu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>---------------------
> >>>>forwarded message:
> >>>>from:   102712.341@compuserve.com (william r. greenwood)
> >>>>to:     tamarafi@aol.com (tamara fisch)
> >>>>date: 95-12-10 17:03:59 est
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>>
> >>>>from:   taurgalin, internet:satan@brown.edu
> >>>>to:     (unknown), internet:akkuniho@colby.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:carlos_pierre@brown.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:ckhufnag@colby.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:zygo@cloud9.net
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:dgrosz@haverford.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:belinsky@aol.com
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:st101921@brownvm.brown.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:jmarwell@minerva.cis.yale.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:st000750@brownvm.brown.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:pl3794a@american.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:rwhelan@itsmail1.hamilton.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:sab7983@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:st201439@brownvm.brown.edu
> >>>>        william r. greenwood, 102712,341
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:redkevin@delphi.com
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:hovdeste@db.erau.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:adlevy@sas.upenn.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:ars@nwu.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:snyderd@umich.edu
> >>>>        (unknown), internet:zachary_litvack@postoffice.brown.edu
> >>>>date:   12/10/95 04:31 pm
> >>>>
> >>>>re:     aids (fwd)
> >>>>
> >>>>date: sun, 10 dec 1995 16:21:38 -0500
> >>>>to: akkuniho@colby.edu, carlos_pierre@brown.edu, ckhufnag@colby.edu,
> >>>>        zygo@cloud9.net, dgrosz@haverford.edu, belinsky@aol.com,
> >>>>        st101921@brownvm.brown.edu, jmarwell@minerva.cis.yale.edu,
> >>>>        st000750@brownvm.brown.edu, pl3794a@american.edu,
> >>>>        rwhelan@itsmail1.hamilton.edu, sab7983@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu,
> >>>>        st201439@brownvm.brown.edu, 102712.341@compuserve.com,
> >>>>        redkevin@delphi.com, hovdeste@db.erau.edu,
adlevy@sas.upenn.edu,
> >>>>        ars@nwu.edu, snyderd@umich.edu,
> >zachary_litvack@postoffice.brown.edu
> >>>>from: satan@brown.edu (taurgalin)
> >>>>subject: aids (fwd)
> >>>>
> >>>>>x-sender: kristen_soule@postoffice.brown.edu
> >>>>>date: sun, 10 dec 1995 15:11:05 -0400
> >>>>>x-ph: v4.2@golden.brown.edu
> >>>>>to: jenner@brown.edu, betsey_gardstein@brown.edu,
james_todd@brown.edu,
> >>>>>        douglas_applewhite@brown.edu, shera_wise@brown.edu,
> >>>>>        hugh_morgenlander@brown.edu, justin_quimby@brown.edu,
> >>>>>        michael_zwarg@brown.edu, genes@brown.edu,
> >>>>valerie_phillips@brown.edu,
> >>>>>        theta@shore.net, sh@cs.brown.edu, nrs@cs.brown.edu,
> >>>>>        kmulcahy@fas.harvard.edu, jcorkery@phoenix.princeton.edu,
> >>>>>        glenn_strauss@brown.edu, brian_fisk@brown.edu,
balki@brown.edu
> >>>>>from: k2@brown.edu (woodsprite)
> >>>>>subject: aids (fwd)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>date: sun, 10 dec 1995 14:19:04 -0500 (est)
> >>>>>>from: "alison a. taylor" <aataylor@mailbox.syr.edu>
> >>>>>>x-sender: aataylor@forbin.syr.edu
> >>>>>>to: "greg r. aiello" <graiello@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>        "faris e. sousou" <fesousou@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>        "david t. pham" <dtpham@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>        "philip b. moore" <pbmoore@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>        "mark j. vakoc" <mjvakoc@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>        friends from home <ahp8733@is.nyu.edu>,
dfowler@skidmore.edu,
> >>>>>>        follick@student.umass.edu, harris@rpi.edu,
> >>>>hcriswel@artsci.wustl.edu,
> >>>>>>        jkey@emerald.tufts.edu, joshua.sachar@trincoll.edu,
> >>>>>>        kerit@christa.unh.edu, kristen_soule@brown.edu,
> >>>>>>        mfrancis@center.colgate.edu, patelp3@rpi.edu,
> >>>>>>        randi.a.barnes@dartmouth.edu
> >>>>>>cc: keri jean deegan <kjd2@lehigh.edu>,
> >>>>>>        kerri lynne mccomiskey <mccomisk@bc.edu>,
> >>>>>>        dana mccarthy <danamc@acs.bu.edu>, mike taylor
> ><weejuns@aol.com>,
> >>>>>>        judi taylor <heyjude103@aol.com>
> >>>>>>subject: aids (fwd)
> >>>>>>mime-version: 1.0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>date: fri, 8 dec 1995 18:15:52 -0500 (est)
> >>>>>>from: breastia <mmbresci@mailbox.syr.edu>
> >>>>>>to: "friends -- alison a. taylor" <aataylor@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "amy f. weitzenhoffer" <afweitze@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "carla j. vey" <cjvey@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "dina m. tavares" <dmtavare@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "kimberly a. conzo" <kaconzo@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "margaret g. mahar" <mgmahar@mailbox.syr.edu>,
> >>>>>>    "sarah m. rooney" <smrooney@mailbox.syr.edu>
> >>>>>>subject: aids (fwd)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>---------- forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>date: thu, 7 dec 1995 16:44:23 -0500 (est)
> >>>>>>from: keesler <bekessle@mailbox.syr.edu>
> >>>>>>to: friends <bm2@lafibm.lafayette.edu>, brhenze@mailbox.syr.edu,
> >>>>>>    cagno@bucknell.edu, djolsen@mailbox.syr.edu,
eric@mailbox.syr.edu,
> >>>>>>    eric.j.bivona@dartmouth.edu, htrieger@mailbox.syr.edu,
> >>>>>>    jcmurphy@indiana.edu, laheit00@ukpr.uky.edu,
> >mayessin@mailbox.syr.edu,
> >>>>>>    nindorfr@ucsub.colorado.edu, rd81@lafibm.lafayette.edu,
> >>>>>>    reiss4ski.aoi.com@mailbox.syr.edu, rreiss@center.colgate.edu,
> >>>>>>    solazzoc@ecsuc.ctstateu.edu, tjemmit@mailbox.syr.edu
> >>>>>>cc: "\"breastia\"" <mmbresci@mailbox.syr.edu>
> >>>>>>subject: aids
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>for a class project, i was wondering if this could be passed on to
prove
> >>>>>>a point.  in my human sex class, we learned that if someone has
received
> >>>>>>the hiv disease, and they don't know about it, they could pass it on
to
> >>>>>>people who they don't even know.
>
> only by having sex with them or sharing needles.  aids is not transmitted
> by casual contact.  it is not transmitted by sharing toothbrushes, toilet
> seats, casual kissing, or shaking hands.
>
> unless you are in the habit of swapping blood with strangers, you will not


> give aids to people you don't know.
>
> >>>>>>        could you all pretend that i have hiv, and i gave it to you.


> >>>>>>then could you pass it on to your friends?  let's see if the entire
> >>>>>>e-mail population could get infected by me alone.
> >>>>>>        please remember that this is a lab experiment.  i have to
say
> >>>>>>that i am not intending to offend any one in any way.
> >>>>>>        by the way, don't erase this or the forwards from your
computer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thankyou
> >>>>>>young bradley


     peace,
         jon

"if we give gays and lesbians civil rights, then everyone will want them!"

poetry:
http://poetryx.guinet.com/poems/1995_05/pxp00149.htm

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date:         wed, 24 jan 1996 23:33:29 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      an introduction: the new girl

hi everyone!
   i'm julie.  i just thought i should introduce myself, because i've been
observing the list since i subscribed a week ago and i've been so busy reading the
hundreds of letters that i haven't had time to write back.
   i joined the list with the help of phil and lorinda from pennsylvania,
both of whom i met over new years at an eddie's attic open mic night.  i
live in atlanta (always have) and i'm a first year student at emory.
right now my major looks like creative writing.
   i started listening to ig when i was 12, which was in 1989.  i saw
them open for rem during the green tour and bought the self-titled ig
tape the next day.  i think it's safe to say that i listened to the girls
pretty obsessively for a while, during those tumultuous adolescent days.
emily is one of those writers who constantly astounds me with her perfect
metaphors and layered meanings.  i love the fact that i can listen to an
ig song and know that even if i entirely don't relate to it at this point
in life, eventually it will click and i'll find that before i even
understand how i'm feeling someone else has already put the emotions into
words.  it's all about  the archetypal human emotions and it's wierd how
precisely e and  a can define those universal feelings.
   anyway, e & a continue to inspire, though i don't feel like it's fair
to elevate them on some kind of pedestal built by obsession.  i
started playing guitar 7 years ago, before i'd heard of ig, but as soon
as i heard them i saw that it could be possible to play soulfully and to
(paradoxically?) make it on a major lable.  now i actually play
professionally in the eversaturated atlanta acoustic scene.  i'm in a duo
currently known as "julie and katherine" and formerly known as "somehow
she knew."  if anyone out there has any good ideas for band names, please
help.  k and i are indeed a female acoustic duo, but i don't think we
sound like ig, and we don't want to (although it would be impossible to
ignore their musical influence on me).
   sorry if this msg is too lengthy for a usual list post, but i wanted
to get a thorough intro out of the way.
   thanks,
     julie

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reply-to:     assilem <holleys@uamont.edu>
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from:         assilem <holleys@uamont.edu>
subject:      re: the "bitch" thread

lol.. thank you jen! i also enjoy being called a "bitch." now, i don't
think of this as a self-esteem problem... if someone cares enough to
call me "bitch," i take it as a compliment. i also agree that "amy is
cool as hell because she is a bitch." and what everyone else has been
saying about people ruining her chance at a private life, bugging her
everywhere she goes, etc. is also very true.

hey--some people are just moody and have dark personalities, that describes
me perfectly.

just one of the girls,
mindigo

"i have spent nights with matches and knives..." -ar

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 03:35:38 -0500
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from:         kelly woodward <woodwardkp@aol.com>
subject:      re: list of ig albums?

could someone maybe make a list of all the ig albums?  i'm pretty sure i have
all of them, but i'm not completely positive.  if anyone could, i would
really appreciate it.  thanks.

kelly

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from:         benjamin slavin <verdi@imap2.asu.edu>
subject:      re: a. ray
x-to:         miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ptx.3.91j.960124115009.5496a-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>

is it really true amy is a drug-user. when you said took drugs to
energize up with i take you didn't mean "pep" or those herbal caffeine drugs!
poor amy, no wonder your so removed from everything.
a very concerned fan,
ben

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      here's my friend joanne to say hi!

hi all, i have been forced to write to you all by meany guts here...i
really don't know what to say about experiences with the indigo
girls.  since helene has become completely hooked on them i have
found myself buying more of their cd's for her, than actually
listening to them. what are friends for huh?  i tend to hear more of
the songs now after helene has memorised the words and sings them
back to me from within the bath-tub!!
a funny way to be introduced to the greatest band on earth, but i'm
addicted to their voices...more please.
well, i have to go.  have a nice day.
joanne xxx

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from:         rick b sayre <oracle1310@aol.com>
subject:      new orleans taken over by flocks of ig fans!!!!!

can't you see this? a huge gathering of the mailing list at the no jazz
fest....
we could even like, rent a bus and do the "adventures of priscilla" thing.
only without the drag, the big shoe, and the abba... (although a few of us
would enjoy the abba- (: ) everyone bring your instruments and we'll have
huge sing alongs- passing motorists will be so enthralled that they shall
join the cavalcade (sp?) and soon enough, as sure as amy croons <g> we shall
enter the pearly gates of new orleans. singing "closer to fine".  . .
fighting with the person next to us who still thinks that amy said "moo". . .
laughing at the people in the yugo next to us who are listening to michael
bolton's greatest hits. for we have united at last (or reunited- and it feels
so good!) and we shall conquer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  i just hope new orleans (not
to mention amy and emily) is ready for us!!!!!

rick!!!!


(sorry, it's late and i had a lousy day and after reading the gazillions of
messages in my mailbox, i'm getting kind of silly. that considered, if there
is a shoe on top of the van a la "priscilla"- it's gotta be something
comfortable and i get to sit on it first, singing "touch me fall" okay?)


*hey jupiter, nothing's been the same
so are you gay, are you blue?
thought we both could use a friend to run to*
tori amos!!!!

*the next time i fall
       next time i fall
i'm gonna have to recall
that it isn't love
       it isn't love, it's only
                 something new*
~*emily saliers*~

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reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      back from so.cal

ugghhh...
        back from my southern california trip.  *whew*  must admit to
flakiness...man i wasn't able to hook up with anyone down there.
apparently, one is not as mobile when one doesn't have her own automobile
(story of my damn life).

        so attention all california residents (and surrounding, nearby
creatures):  list party????  summer?  north or south?  anyone
interested???

uggghhh...

chatter chirp squeak buzz,
teri

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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: cover me grey--last chance!!!

my screen name has changed too since that post was originally mailed.  it is
now jhunter@fdic.gov

it's a gov't thang :)

jude

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subject:      nigc: melissa on leno

did anyone happen to tape melissa etheridge on leno last night ???

i'm a complete jerk and fell asleep last night without setting my vcr ...

as usual i have lots of stuff for trade ...

i'm even sending this from work ....

please !!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: [fwd: fw: important! hiv experiment]
x-to:         jon miner <jjminer@mailbag.com>
in-reply-to:  <199601250421.waa38342@glacier.binc.net>

do not forwrd this e-mail

it is a chain letter..has no bearing ion medical research and is just
some prank of some jerk to see how far his e-mail can go.  it
clogs e-mail boxes, nd networks and can cause you to lose your
access if you forward it.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 14:24:35 gmt
reply-to:     neil <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         neil <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      indigo originals...
x-cc:         ph21nh@pierre.ph.surrey.ac.uk

hey :)

well, what with the cover tape being brought up again, i thought i'd
let y'all know how the originals tape is progressing...(and i'm back-
logged on email, so...)

i still need!!! (to please the perfectionist inside of me...)

a decenter recording of beauty to disaster...

info on the song love by you (is it an iggis song, and if so
i need a decent recording...)

cover help...

and if anyone has any other (i.e. better) recordings or ideas 'specially
for side one, then they're welcome...


the problem with this tape will be that some tracks won't stand up to
many more generations of copying. hopefully i'll be able to clean up
somewhat the recordings, but that depends on if i can beg a few things
off of people...

anyway, here's what i have....

side one...the dodgy recording quality side...

the untitiled song (e) -live at wrek 27/2/89 ) anyone have a low
half moon cafe (e)     -live at wrek 27/2/89 )   generation recording??
make this house a home (a&mm) - haverford college, pa 10/4/87
up in smoke (e)        )
what was really me (e) )  all from university of north carolina,
peace song (e)         )      chapel hill, nc, 18/3/88
life's too strange (e) )
beauty to disaster (a) - ??? anyone have a recording??
pretty vision (vision boy) (a) - white dot, atlanta, ga 30/5/89
play it again sam (e) - 'early recordings' is there a soundboard of this??
(love by you) (??) - ??? - help!!

side two...the better recording quality side...

tuesday's children (a) - the b band tape
*unknown title*   (e?) - mysterys play rehersal '86?
the ballard of squeaky frome (a) - wrfg june 1990
no way to treat a friend (a) - wrek 17/5/88
if you live like that (a&e) - the dugout, atlanta, '85??
draw the line (a) - the dugout '85??
holy city (a) - not sure yet...maybe blue food...
i don't know your name (a&e) - blue food
running from the cold (a) - blue food
high horse (e) - undecided...can anyone do a good sf'87 recording??

(plus, depending on tape space and things...
other possibilities include the four covers of ig's stuff soffar...
tgwtwotwihh - eddi reader
closer to fine - the wonderstuff
fare thee well - david cosby
welcome me - joan baez......but we'll see....)

comments etc. please??

if and when i get these couple of songs, then i'll compile the tape, and
i already have one or two lucky tape tree volunteers, but there's always
room for more...

so there you go...

byesy bye...

@}--,--'---

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subject:      re: random playing of ig
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i hear them in the grocery store also.  shocks me everytime. (but makes me
smile,too)

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subject:      a+e on broadway

        had to put in my two cents-- "camelot"!
        it may not be pc, but i want to hear amy sing "how to handle a woman"

-jean

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     tail for you."
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are there any plans for a british tour by the indigo-girls in the coming
year(s)?

thanks,
r.suckling.

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begin forwarded message:

x-sender: jmbardin@forbin.syr.edu

        had to put in my two cents-- "camelot"!
        it may not be pc, but i want to hear amy sing "how to
handle a woman"

-jean

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     tail for you."
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     he.  "not like some," he said.
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with emily as lancelot.....
(i want to see them wave big swords around and kill a few minor
characters cause they shouldn't be stuck to a script, gotta
improve)--deb

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from:         alex scherer <alscherer@aol.com>
subject:      re: this train (yad vashem)
x-to:         kcw2@cornell.edu

in a message dated 96-01-24 12:37:55 est, kcw2@cornell.edu (karin colby
wilson) writes:


>i am right now listening to "this train".  are the voices at the very
>beginning
>>reading off names or is it something else?
>>peace,
>>amy
>
>        i don't know exactly what they are saying at the beginning of this
>train, but i do know that at cornell's holocaust memorial each year they
>have someone reading the names of holocaust victims all day long.  i think
>that they also do something similar at the holocaust memorail in jerusalem
>(can't remember the name, think it's for the childrens' memeorial part).

definitely names, but it sounds as if the voices are spliced together so only
first names are heard, and not very clearly either.  the only name i
distinctly heard (and the one that convinces me it is the recording at yad
vashem or some other holocaust memorial) is chaim.  i think i also heard the
name zander.  obviously this explanation is appropriate, considering the
song.
     the children's holocaust memorial in jerusalem is called yad vashem, and
visiting it is one of the most moving experiences you will ever have.
utterly depressing yet somehow uplifting as well, maybe because the memorial
commemorates not only the 1.5 million children that died, but also the ones
who survived, were strong enough to rebuild, and thrived in their new (old)
homeland.
    the memorial is basically one room, completely black, the walls, floor,
and ceiling made of mirror, and a walkway circling the room a few feet above
the floor.  in the center of the room is a single candle, which reflects
through the mirrors to give the impression of millions of tiny lights
completely surrounding you.  two voices are playing softly, a man and a
woman, slowly speaking, in english and hebrew, the names of every child on
record that died in the holocaust.  the emotion that overcame me upon exiting
the memorial is like no other emotion i have eber experienced.  all my
friends call me a stoic, cause i usually seem to be unaffected by major
catastophes in my and my friends life.  however, i could not get away frrom
the gut-twiting feeling that overcame me as i exited yad vashem, no matter
how hard i tried to bury it.
   sorry for rambling, on to the question.

>  or, at the ig concert i saw in rochester last
>fall, they brought several people from the big fish ensemble onstage for
>"this train".  instead of the jacob's ladder intro the lead singer said the
>mourner's kaddish (sp?), the jewish prayer for the dead.

what was the date of that concert, and does anyone on the list have a boot
from then?  i'll pay big money!!  just kidding, but i would really appreciate
a copy of that show.
by the way, i thought it noteworthy to mention that even though the mourner's
kaddish is the jewish prayer for the dead, it doesn't mention death once.  it
is a reaffirmation of the glory of god, plain and simple.  just thought it
interesting.

waiting with baited breath for that one piece of mail from the one who owns
the boot,


alex
oh, yeah, this may sound crazy, but i heard that one of the ig's fathers
sings backup vocals on a so song.  any truth to this rumor?

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subject:      nigc whatsoever; but oh so funny!!

people: i just had to share this one with y'all.  i just didn't realized that
ole newt considered men to be "piglets."  lol

real life thoughts from newt:

  "if combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems
staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't
have upper body strength. i mean, some do, but they're relatively rare. on
the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch,
they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you know. these things are very real.
on the other hand, if combat means being on an aegis-class cruiser managing
the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be
again dramatically better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting
in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and
hunt giraffes."

  -- adjunct professor newt gingrich, reinhardt college, january 7, 1995,
"renewing american civilization."

the following is a letter making internet e-mail rounds to rep. newt gingrich
from fresno bee reporter john scalzi. it includes an informal poll scalzi
conducted on newt's remarks about -- and astonishing misunderstanding of
--typical male behavior.

dear mr. gingrich:

my name is john scalzi, and i am a columnist for the fresno bee in fresno,
california. in the days since the unearthing of your comments about men,
women, combat, and the biological drive for men to hunt giraffes, i have
taken it upon myself to conduct a poll to see whetherthat innate
giraffe-hunting urge (and the little piglet wallowing urge) is in fact alive
and well in the average american male.

while the sample polled is statistically small (50 men, basically whomever
was handy at the time) and largely comprised of white, college-educated,
gainfully employed males, i nevertheless feel that the information gleaned
from this poll will be of some value to someone, somew here, some time.
perhaps you yourself, should the subject of instinctual giraffe slaughtering
come up again. certainly for me, as it takes up the bulk of my column, to be
published soon.

thank you for your time, and happy hunting and/or wallowing, whichever the
case may be.

1. have you ever hunted a giraffe?
     yes: 0%
     no: 100%

2. have you ever had the urge to hunt a giraffe?
     yes:4%
     no: 96%

3. provided the right tools and the time, would you hunt a giraffe?
     yes: 8%
     no: 92%

4. if not a giraffe, would you hunt another african savannah animal?
     yes: 20%
     no: 80%

5. if you had to hunt an african savannah animal, which of the following
would you choose?
     a) zebra: 2%
     b) rhino: 6%
     c) meerkat: 12%
     d) boar: 42%
     e) any creature that appeared in "the lion king": 36%

6. do you think giraffe would taste like chicken?
     yes: 38%
     no: 62%

7. might it not make more sense not to hunt giraffe, but rather to set up
giraffe ranches?
     yes: 92%
     no: 8%

8. when you see geoffrey, the toys 'r' us giraffe, do you ever get the urge
to stick him with a spear?
     yes: 40%
     no: 60%

9. do you expect that newt gingrich has ever had the urge to hunt a giraffe?
     yes: 74%
     no: 26%

10. if newt gingrich were to hunt a giraffe, would he use tools, or simply
his own mouth?
     tools: 48%
     mouth: 52%

11. would you rather hunt a giraffe, or wallow in a ditch like a little
piglet?
     hunt: 30%
     wallow: 70%

12. would you generally describe yourself as a little piglet?
     yes: 22%
     no: 78%

13. would you describe newt gingrich as a little piglet?
     yes: 54%
     no: 46%

14. if you could, would you hunt newt gingrich?
     yes: 58%
     no: 42%

15. would newt gingrich taste like chicken?
     yes: 18%
     no: 82%


if you don't appreciate the humor, then i'm sorry for wasting your b/w.  it
was just too funny to leave alone!
alex

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 13:54:00 +1100
reply-to:     "vanessa k. grippe" <pmvkg1@gannonlab.gannon.edu>
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     i am a student at gannon university, and i saw this address on a
tee shirt worn by a classmate and i asked her where she got it. we
got to talking about the indigo girls, and she told me that they may
be participating in the folk festival in newport in august. i was
wondering if this is true and if so, how can i get my hands on a few
tickets?

                                        vanessa grippe
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i have changed my mind. my friend and i wer discussing this bitch thing
and we've decided she's not. she's just a total diva. being a bitch is
unacceptable, being a diva is cool

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i think that it is very interesting that you brought up the issue of yad
vashem with the ig song.  i was told, that as you said, it does have
something to do with the holocaust memorial, the way they read out the
names as you enter the memorial room.  i wonder if that is what they
really intended. i just thought i would share what i heard through the
grapevine about that issue.  thanx alex for that info.

hindy

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subject:      re: a+e on broadway

how about a version of p.d.q. bach's "the stoned guest"

amy as don octavio who can't do anything right except sing octaves
emily as his sister who is lost in the woods because he was so
drunk he didn't recognize he was kidnapping his own sister
michelle malone as the character emily would duel with to see who
can hold a note out the longest
kristen hall's dog can have a cameo as the saint bernard who saves
them all
and the stoned guest can be played by whoever's in town since he
just walks on stage insights a riot and falls over in a drunken heap

maybe a little avant garde but sure would be fun to watch....

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>is it really true amy is a drug-user. when you said took drugs to
>energize up with i take you didn't mean "pep" or those herbal caffeine drugs!
>poor amy, no wonder your so removed from everything.
>a very concerned fan,

please you guys, i haven't read all the msgs in this thread so i might be
speaking out of turn here, but i feel slightly sick just seeing all the
subject lines about amy being a bitch and all this talk of whether or not
she's standoffish or moody when offstage or taking drugs. i feel even worse
when i read that some people are forming impressions of what amy is like
based on snapshot impressions from a third party instead of assuming that
her life might be just a little too complex to be adequately grasped by
anyone who has spent probably no more than a few hours with her.
we've talked in the past about the fact that a&e explicitly requested that
we not discuss their private lives on this list and i can now see why.
i have my trashy impulses just like everyone else so i understand that
folks might be wondering about this stuff but please, please, please, take
your questions off the list to the original poster and use private email.
please let this thread die out you guys, it's hard, but it can be done! i
have faith.

thank you,

monique

mhb@entelechy.com

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subject:      stuff

about amy doing "drugs"....it's prolly vitamins...but i'm not a roadie
so i wouldn't know and it's really none of my biz...
even though it worries me
about amy and em doing the rocky show...i can't imagine emily singing
toucha toucha toucha touch me...i want to be dirty...
well, actually i can imagine it but i don't see it happening

well, when someone doesn't live in atlanta what do you talk about?
i could talk about the guy on the street that i saw today...
i've seen him on the street before...screw the political correctness
he's a bum....(pardon me, sensitive folkies)
why do i feel guilty for his unfortunate situation??
if i could've helped him i would've..i gave him a couple of cigarettes
that wasn't much help and down the line it prolly will be the death
of him, but i didn't think about that until just now...*sighs*
i hate that america is so full of homeless ppl


note to shannon....(if you're not shannon move on...if you're nosy,
enjoy)

this is for you....
almost home by c.l.foster

well, i'll type it later...gotta surrender the computer

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 15:23:34 +1100
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subject:      re: an introduction: the new girl

      julie from emory,

               i agree with you wholeheartedly.


                                  :) shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      continuing

okay before i was so rudely interrupted....
continuing the poem to shannon

almost home by c.l. foster

waiting in patient orbit of your world
i come as close as you will let me.
i see the patterns of the storms that tear across your seas,
the jagged, blood red rifts of pain--
volcanoes self-inflicted on your precious earth...
i would soothe them with a touch as cool as space
or a kiss as warm as passion
if i could.
i dream of lying in your warm embrace
to breathe at last your atmosphere beyond this solitary vacuum i endure
how i would revel in your flowered fields,
and the drink the sweet sap dripping from your trees,
inhale the deep intoxicating scent of you at last,
and rest my head within the gentle valley of your breast.
yet i may not--
for still i see the scorched reminders of invasions past
and know you are afraid.
i wish not rush to land too soon my craft.
and though the winds that wrack your velvet skies
may threaten to drive me from you with their pain,
i must fall back again and yet again--
your gravity will not let me escape,
and how could i abandon you, my love?
and so i wait--without regret for time--
for i have, solitary, wandered in this void since time began and night
   first lit the stars,
and time has taught me patience in its wake.
the dinosaur seems but a moment lost--
what are a few more centuries to take?

(used without permission, please forgive me c.l.foster whereever you are
consider this a compliment to your outstanding way with words)
i love you shannon...please wait for me....

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subject:      re: this train (yad vashem)

  alex ,

        the rumor about an ig dad singing back-up vocals is no rumor.
amy's dad larry ray, sr sings back-up on "dead man's hill".  pretty
cool huh?  he's that voice near the end that adds a nice touch to the
song. :)

                             shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      (little igc) dar question + more...

hi folks,

   first the nigc dar williams thing.  i just bought "mortal city" and
i highly recommend it (i think i need to subscribe to her mailing
list).  anyway, my copy of the cd dies on track 1, 1:07 into the song
on about 50% of the cd players i use.  does anyone else have this
problem?  i suspect its just me, but i wanted to check.

                                *plug*

        buy _mortal city_ if only for "as cool as i am" (backed by
        the nields -- yay!) and "the christians and the pagans."
        the rest is great too!!!

                              *end plug*

   ok the obigc comment.  i want to second monique's call to end the
current thread speculating on amy's personality and habits.  look at
it this way, if you were a famous musician and people were discussing
your persoanlity over the course of a week, i doubt you'd appreciate
it much.  especially as people seem to be recounting 3 minute
encounters with you rather than your music which you have poured your
heart and soul into for years.  if you want to look for the person who
is amy ray (or emily saliers, or peter gabriel, or ...) look at their
work, its all there.

                                just a thought,

                                      chris

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subject:      re: y'all....sheesh
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this message is for everyone on the list. i have been unable to confirm
a date or dates for the girls in new orleans.  a while back i was
committed to leading a group of us in accommodations and plans for a trip
down to the fest. as soon as i find anything out, i'll let you know.
there are a few ways i can go about this....it's going to take a little
time to do it right.

thanks for being patient.

miranda

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okay, enough already.

amy does not have a drug problem.  i think that as college students (most
of us), you all can understand what it's like to feel tired when you have
a lot to do.  i personally don't drink coffee, but many of us have our
remedies for fatigue or sleep deprivation other than rest.  all i meant
to say was that she buckled and had to use an alternative in order to
make it through the weekend.  and, although everyone thought her
performance was excellent, she was still unhappy with herself. the drugs
were a one-time thing i'm sure.  she's not a druggie!  (but she was an
anti-social, because we had this raging party after the last jcs show,
and she only showed up for like 5 minutes and then left.)

anyway......

bye

miranda

btw,,,,,,,,,they aren't breaking up as a band!!!
                whoever started this rumor was desperate for something to
talk about!!

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subject:      okay!!!!!

geez....no need to get all bothered and stuff
we all know that ig isn't going to break up any time soon
if if if if they do...they do...they're not gonna be around forever...
although many would like to hope that they would ;)
sal-ray

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i agree.  this is the reason i never used to post anything. from now on,
i will keep my knowledge of and experiences with the girls to myself.  it
always gets misinterpreted!

m

(can you say, "prescription"?)

:)

on thu, 25 jan 1996, monique barbanson wrote:

> >is it really true amy is a drug-user. when you said took drugs to
> >energize up with i take you didn't mean "pep" or those herbal caffeine drugs!
> >poor amy, no wonder your so removed from everything.
> >a very concerned fan,
>
> please you guys, i haven't read all the msgs in this thread so i might be
> speaking out of turn here, but i feel slightly sick just seeing all the
> subject lines about amy being a bitch and all this talk of whether or not
> she's standoffish or moody when offstage or taking drugs. i feel even worse
> when i read that some people are forming impressions of what amy is like
> based on snapshot impressions from a third party instead of assuming that
> her life might be just a little too complex to be adequately grasped by
> anyone who has spent probably no more than a few hours with her.
> we've talked in the past about the fact that a&e explicitly requested that
> we not discuss their private lives on this list and i can now see why.
> i have my trashy impulses just like everyone else so i understand that
> folks might be wondering about this stuff but please, please, please, take
> your questions off the list to the original poster and use private email.
> please let this thread die out you guys, it's hard, but it can be done! i
> have faith.
>
> thank you,
>
> monique
>
> mhb@entelechy.com
>
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x-to:         amy benore <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
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i am very much registered to vote, have registered others, and am a sworn
political junkie (of course, aim, you already knew that!).  i do think
our biggest worry is not mr. buchanan's folks but rather mr. forbes'
folks.  after all, didn't ol' steve say he wanted to return the country
to the eighties' economica practices?  those of greed, subterfuge and
trickery?

--mike

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subject:      re: back from so.cal
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list party for all ca folks!!  central, like bay area!!

good idea teri!!

--mike

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how can you suggest the idea of the ig's breaking up?! they will be
around for a long time....there is no need to worry....and we always have
the beautiful music

hindy

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let's just hold on a minute here.  if this message is directed toward
myself, i was trying to encourage the members of this list to avoid the
discussion of whether or not amy, emily, or anyone else for that matter,
uses, abuses, or otherwise is involved in drugs.  it's none of our business.

i never said she did or didn't do drugs.  the point is that this part of her
life is a personal decision and discussion of this topic without her
expressed consent shows a lack of respect for her with regard to a socially
charged issue.  this kind of consideration might also be a factor in other
discussions regarding the indigo girls' private lives.

they have made public their musical, socially active, and very small parts
of their personal lives of which i've never heard or read drugs being
included.  my statement was meant to suggest that if we don't show some good
judgment in the topics we discuss on this mail list, amy and emily may grow
weary of hearing the rumors and decide to withdraw from the public eye.
it's been known to happen.

peace-
ron

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from:   miranda detore[smtp:inxsive@u.washington.edu]
sent:   thursday, january 25, 1996 1:06 pm
to:     ron johnson
cc:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        re: a. ray

okay, enough already.

amy does not have a drug problem.  i think that as college students (most
of us), you all can understand what it's like to feel tired when you have
a lot to do.  i personally don't drink coffee, but many of us have our
remedies for fatigue or sleep deprivation other than rest.  all i meant
to say was that she buckled and had to use an alternative in order to
make it through the weekend.  and, although everyone thought her
performance was excellent, she was still unhappy with herself. the drugs
were a one-time thing i'm sure.  she's not a druggie!  (but she was an
anti-social, because we had this raging party after the last jcs show,
and she only showed up for like 5 minutes and then left.)

anyway......

bye

miranda

btw,,,,,,,,,they aren't breaking up as a band!!!
                whoever started this rumor was desperate for something to
talk about!!

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 16:08:33 -0600
reply-to:     und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu
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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      all i have to say

all i have to say is.....
freedom of speech
i apologize for those i've bored
but what the blazes is this list for if we get reprimanded for
speaking our minds?????
anyway.....i'm going to lunch

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 17:22:08 est
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@rci.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@rci.rutgers.edu>
subject:      congregations in conflict (nigc)

recently, i had posted a request for some information about gay/les/bi
bookstores and peridicals for a proposal that i am making at work to promote
one of our newest books, "congregations in conflict" by keith hartman.  i
appreciate the responses that i received.  they were very helpful.  i have not
responded to any of them, because i haven't had the time, but i will in the
very near future.  several of you who responded wanted to know more about the
book, so i am going to transcribe the description of the book that is in the
rutgers university press fall/winter catalog.  if you have absolutely no
interest in a book about homosexuality and the church, delete now.  otherwise,
read on, because i think this is a fascinating book that covers a wide range
of topics and i think you'll find it very interesting.

congregations in conflict:
the battle over homosexuality
by keith hartman

a methodist church puts its minister on trial after he marches in a gay rights
parade. a quaker meeting struggles to decide whether to marry a lesbian
couple. an entire congregation is thrown out of the southern baptist
convention for deciding that a gay divinity student had a sincere calling to
the ministry, and an order of celibate monks comes out of the closet.  an
episcopal priest blesses two same-sex relationships---then a closeted gay
lawyer leads the charge to have him fired.

homosexuality is the most divisive issue facing the church today.  like the
issue of slavery 150 years ago, it is a matter that ignites passionate
convictions on both sides, a matter that threatens to turn members of the same
faith against each other, to divide congregations, and possibly to fragment
several denominations.  like slavery, it is an issue that calls up basic
questions about what it means to be a christian.  how does one know right from
wrong?  is the bible fallible?  do good christians always follow their
church'steachings, or are they allowed to think for themselves on moral
issues?  and to what source does one finally look for to determine what god
really wants?

while many books have been written analyzing the scriptural and theological
dimensions of the conflict, none has yet shown how it is being played out in
the pews.  congregations in conflict examines nine churches that were split by
disagreements over gay and lesbian issues, and how the congregations resolved
them.

hartman explores in very readable prose how different denominations have
handled their conflicts and what it says about the nature of their faith.  he
shows some churches coming through their struggles stronger and more unified,
while others irrevocably split.  most importantly, he illuminates how people
with a passionate clash of beliefs can still function together as a community
of faith.

keith hartman is a journalist and freelance writer whose work has appeared in
numerous mainstream and gay publications.  he lives in orlando, florida.

key points:
*the first book on present-day negotiations between homosexuals and their
congregations
*evenhanded analysis, respecting the views of both sides in the conflict

225 pp. 7 b & w illus.
$24.95 hardcover 0-8135-2229-3

this book is now available.  if your local bookstore does not have it in
stock, they can order it, or you can order it directly from rutgers university
press.  the number to call to order this book is (800)446-9323.  you can ask
for me when you call, or you can place your order with whomever answers the
phone.  rutgers university press publishes books on a wide variety of topics.
if anyone is interested in getting one of the rup catalogs, you can call the
aforementioned number, or you can reply to this e-mail.  include in the reply
your name and address and the subject matter you are interested in.  if you
want a general catalog, then type the word general after your name and
address.

for those of you who have read this far, thank you for your patience and
consideration.  i hope you have found this information interesting and i look
forward to hearing what you think about this.  talk to y'all soon.


let it grow

bertin lefkovic

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 14:38:13 -0800
reply-to:     ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
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from:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: all i have to say

good question.  maybe we should ask the list owner to outline or reiterate
standard policies for submission to this list.  i completely agree with
people's right to free speech but i think this list is for a specified
purpose.  listserv owner, come on down!!!  we need your wisdom.

thanks-
ron

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from:   tracy l. fears[smtp:und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu]
sent:   thursday, january 25, 1996 2:08 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        all i have to say

all i have to say is.....
freedom of speech
i apologize for those i've bored
but what the blazes is this list for if we get reprimanded for
speaking our minds?????
anyway.....i'm going to lunch

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 22:34:19 +0000
reply-to:     matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: [fwd: fw: important! hiv experiment]
x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>

>do not forwrd this e-mail
>
>it is a chain letter..has no bearing ion medical research and is just
>some prank of some jerk to see how far his e-mail can go.  it
>clogs e-mail boxes, nd networks and can cause you to lose your
>access if you forward it.

thank you!   few things piss me off more than these chain letters ... anyone
seen the "bbc record breakers chain letter" yet?   i got one off my friend
from my old school, and i showed it to my sister who told me the bbc had put
out a message on newsround (the bbc children's news prog) telling everyone
that this whole "bbc letter" thing was a scam and it had nothing to do with
them.

how about this for a thread (i know it's totally nigc, but ...):  most
bizarre chain letter you've ever received?

mat (aka indigojo)
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|  mts5@aber.ac.uk   |      for anyone, an absentee boss is best."     |
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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 14:07:44 -0800
reply-to:     dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
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from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      chris's words re: amy being a "b" word.
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199601252046.paa32713@netspace.org>

amen chris.
nuff said. gawd. geez.
_____________________________________________________________

chris wrote>
>    ok the obigc comment.  i want to second monique's call to end the
> current thread speculating on amy's personality and habits.  look at
> it this way, if you were a famous musician and people were discussing
> your persoanlity over the course of a week, i doubt you'd appreciate
> it much.  especially as people seem to be recounting 3 minute
> encounters with you rather than your music which you have poured your
> heart and soul into for years.  if you want to look for the person who
> is amy ray (or emily saliers, or peter gabriel, or ...) look at their
> work, its all there.
>
>                                 just a thought,
>
>                                       chris
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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      f.y.i

for those harping about my poetic quotings and it's lack of
importance on the list.....
i was sharing it not only with shannon, but with all of you becasue
pardon me...because i appreciate a good poem as much as the next
person...:)
have a nice day
sal-ray

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 14:44:14 -0800
reply-to:     "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      an introduction in order?

        i feel somewhat like a shadow lurking among the deep, dark
internet caves, and seeing as how messgaes from y'all dwarf the number of
messages from people i have actually met, i feel an introduction is in order.
hi.
my name is emily (cool name huh- but i was named after emily dickinson
and the simon & garfunkel song of like nombre), and i have been an ig fan
for several years now. i can't even remember when i started listening to
them, but it was right about the time they were nominated for a grammy.
anyhow, i am currently a first year student at the university of southern
california (fight on), and am originally from lancaster (home of the b-2
bomber and "the town that banned sex" according to hard copy). odd
beginnings, perhaps, for someone of my liberal leanings. it amazes me
that any of you hear ig music anywhere else than your own stereos. i have
_never_ heard an ig song on _any_ radio station, nor have i heard it in a
supermarket, elevator, etc. in fact, very few people i have met have
heard of ig.. which makes me sad in a way, but glad they're not
mainstream and lame and have paula abdul choreographing their videos :)
anyway, i am also an art history/english double major who is planning on
going to italy in the next few years (yay) somehow. well nuff said bout
me, cause we have two more important girls to talk about ;)

p.s. i absolutely love the cover of tangled up in blue on 1200c- it rocks
my world hard core.

                                emily :)

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 17:54:27 est
reply-to:     joe <jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
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from:         joe <jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
subject:      ig concert announcement =)

woo hoo...great news!  i don't have many details..but..it seems that the same
people who are affiliated with honor the earth are putting out an album and
with it, having an album release concert and guess who's playing? uh huh :)
the girls were, reportedly, recently in michigan working out some of the final
paper work..so ..i'm under the impression that the show will be in michigan and
it is going to be sometime in september..and of course..the second i hear more
details..i'll pass them along :)
we are fortunate, roadtripping, ones
joe

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date:         thu, 25 jan 1996 17:57:17 -0600
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from:         amy coltart <acoltart2102@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
subject:      bury my heart at wounded knee...

hello all...i am doing a rhetorical criticism of bury my heart at wounded
knee and i would like any information that someone might know about buffy
st marie or the song itself.  what persuaded her to write it?  just mail
me and i will ever so thankful!!

amy c

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on thu, 25 jan 1996, joe wrote:

> woo hoo...great news!  i don't have many details..but..it seems that the same
> people who are affiliated with honor the earth are putting out an album and
> with it, having an album release concert and guess who's playing? uh huh :)
> the girls were, reportedly, recently in michigan working out some of the final
> paper work..so ..i'm under the impression that the show will be in michigan and
>  it is going to be sometime in september..and of course..the second i hear more
>  details..i'll pass them along :)
> we are fortunate, roadtripping, ones
> joe


hey...
i live in michigan, the great state that it is, in the grand rapids
area.  so if  the concert ends up anywhere near me (this is all
speculation of course) then you can email around the time and i'll be
happy to house some fellow ig fanatics (it's a compliment--don't freak
out on me here...)

love,
aim

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subject:      nigc: youthpride/ call for submissions

                call for submissions!

        youthpride is a service organization for gay, lesbian, bisexual
and transgendered youth and young adults in the atlanta area.
        we are currently accepting submissions for a book that allows
g/l/b/t youth and young adults to use their creative processes to express
the important issues in their lives.
        we are looking for poetry, short stories, photography,
cartoons, fiction and nonfiction and other creative works by people under
the age of 25.
        our tentative deadline for first submissions is june 1996.
        for more information, send a sase to
                youthpride book project
                p.o. box 15448
                atlanta, ga 30333

please send this msg along to anyone who might be interested!

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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

  yentl  !!
my first choice is still hair :)

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subject:      beggin' for files

first, thank you again to all the people who helped me round up copies
of files lost during the great hard drive crash of '95.  but i still
desperately  need copies of the why amy/emily is cools lists, joys of
indigo and amy's letter to the southern voice.  please, please?  i'll
petition my cats tucker underfoot and christo-purr mousebreath (who _do_
rule the world) to look upon you with great favor.  promise.  (what is
that awful noise?  oh, it's tuck, snoring.)  and now i am forced to ask
dumbass question of the year (already).  about "imports" such as "in
with the out crowd," "blood and fire," and "complicated girls," do amy
and emily get any decision-making involvement, creative-input or profit
from them at all?  i want all the indigos stuff i can get, but i don't
want to do anything detrimental to them and i don't want to make someone
else rich by buying indigo girls cds that a&e don't get anything for.
what's the story on these types of items?
rustyr


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          the most bizarre time i ever heard ig was when i was buying
          my car.  i was waiting with the salesman for my offer to be
          accepted or declined (anyone who has bought a car knows what
          a tiring process this can be) and power of two started on
          the radio.  i knew that all would work out then, and it
          certainly did.  i still have the car, several wrecks later i
          may add, and through it all i have played almost nothing but
          ig while riding in it.
          rich
          ps i actually heard the ig version of tuib on the radio the
          other day.  it was on a new radio station that boasts aaa
          music (album adult alternative).  then the next day i heard
          don't think twice it's alright with by joan baez and ig.  i
          have definitely preset this station.

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the king and i.

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subject:      broadway......

hi friends,

             emily as eva perone.......hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

"don't cry for me argentina. i was supposed to have been immortal. that's all
i wanted, not much to ask for. i kept my promise, don't keep your distance. i
kept my promise.........."

                ya, possible!                   annie    xoxoxoxoxo

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out of lurkdom for this one...

for all you sondheim fans (and i know you are out there):

sweeney todd:  amy as sweeney and emily as mrs. lovett
(picture it:  amy wielding a razor and emily popping people into pies.
it could happen... ;)

-or-

sunday in the park with george:  amy as george and emily as dot
(i'm getting goosebumps thinking of them doing the "we do not belong
together"/"move on" duets :)

just had to participate in this thread :)  back to lurking...

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*pictures, sounds, and words -- wow!*

order your cats on fire t-shirts and tapes now! :)

...sleep, what's that?

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subject:      happy birthday!!    (january 26, 1996)
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hey jack and mat, you probably already know that it's your birthday but just
thought i'd mention it to the rest of us!!!  "...here's a young girl on a
kind of a telephone line through time"  wishing you a wonderful day...

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subject:      re: nigc whatsoever; but oh so funny!!

in a message dated 96-01-25 14:12:49 est, alscherer@aol.com (alex scherer)
writes:

>8. when you see geoffrey, the toys 'r' us giraffe, do you ever get the urge
>to stick him with a spear?
>     yes: 40%
>     no: 60%
>
>

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rick
(works at toys r us)

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subject:      top ten reasons why i'm signing off (some igc)

first, indigo girls content: i will make a general offer to anyone on this
list to tape the "shades of indigo" cd (a&e interviewed by shawn colvin
interspersed with studio and live cuts) for them, for free. this offer does
not expire! :) anyone who's interested is welcome to e-mail me at
rocket@lanminds.com for details.

i really love the indigo girls, and i love the 'net community, and i sure
wish i didn't feel like i had to say goodbye to this list, but it has just
become too much.

here's my "top ten reasons i'm signing off this list."

10. actual indigo girls content is getting rare.
9. way too much mail for such precious little good quality ig content and
discussion.
8. personal discussion of a&e's life are a no-no (and i think for good
reason) yet people still do it (...sigh...).
7. those
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things between every post are more annoying than the occasional unsubscribe
message to the list, and make it hard to differentiate between posts.
6. chain letters! aaauuugghh! :(
5. the last digest had a corrupt attachment in it fergawdsakes!
4. i'm too nitpicky to not let grammar and spelling mistakes bother me! ;)
3. the girls are not touring my way (berkeley, ca) soon, and so i don't
expect any info on that, which is what i'm mostly looking for anyway.
2. less clicking on mouse = less repetitive stress injury!
1. if any time is going to be spent on the indigo girls, i'd rather be
listening to their music or jamming their music on guitar with friends than
discussing it.

i do want to say that for even all the junk that i find annoying, i have
really enjoyed many of the discussions and have met some wonderful people!
thanks to everyone who made it a great experience! indigo girls rule!!!!

--barbara

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subject:      yes, i am!

jen,

      well,  ahhh, well.......oh, what the hell........

i'm a bitch, too !!!!!! there, i said it!

                      annie

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subject:      re: this train (yad vashem)
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in a message dated 96-01-25 14:57:30 est, alscherer@aol.com (alex scherer)
writes:

>the only name i
>distinctly heard (and the one that convinces me it is the recording at yad
>vashem or some other holocaust memorial) is chaim.


i think that that bit you're hearing is "l'chaim," which is hebrew for "to
life."  also, i do hear "surgery" type stuff at the beginning--does anyone
else hear "scalpel"?

morbidly and obsessively,
                             danna

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subject:      where's the watershed?

first of all let me introduce myself.  my name's seffy and i'm from brighton
in the uk.  (despite my email address i have no connection with the ig's
record co. ) i've been a passionate fan of a+e's for ages  - their words,
wisdom and melodies have inspired me personally and creatively as a musician
and songwriter myself.  it's great to see they have such a following on the net.

anyway, i'll get on with my query:

does anyone know if the 'watershed' video is available in the uk?  i've
tried to order it through hmv with no luck.  if i can find out the
distribution company then they may be able to import it.

failing that, i'd be happy to trade a copy of their shepherd's bush empire
gig - i can handle pal to ntsc conversions if need be.

please help put a girl out of her misery!  i can't wait to see it!


thanks y'all,

**************
seffy
     cod==#
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ann,


       sweeney todd..... definitely!   great musical.  i think amy
would be perfect in the role of a maniacal killer.   she could
definitely pull it off.  this i would love to see.  :)    long live
stephen sondheim!  heheh

                             shannon shevock (yamaha)

              i told myself i wasn't going to get involved in this,
but i just couldn't help myself. :)

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subject:      guitar???

being new to this newsgroup, i may be asking a question that everybody
already knows. so maybe you can shed some light on the subject!
what type(s) of acoustic guitars / strings do the ig use on their "back
on the bus y'all" live album?

it's awesome to see so many ig fans on the net!
one other thing, for those of you who are with me in canada, check out
steven ferring! his cd is really good!


                                 xxx         xxx
curtis a. lord                     xxx     xxx
x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca                xxx xxx
                                       xxx       marks the spot
sailing the seas of                  xxx xxx
st. francis xavier u.              xxx     xxx
antigonish, nova scotia.         xxx         xxx

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the strangest circumstances under which i heard ig was in vancouver in
august 1994 at hmv (that's not the strange part).  i had gone to alaska
with a friend, and on the way back we drove through british columbia, and
ended up spending about 4 days in vancouver, (we had only planned to
spend one night there) but while we were in hmv, least complicated came
on, then my pal and i bought some music, (i got botby that night) we went
back to the car and someone had broken in.  somehow now, i always think
of that when i hear least complicated.  and its weird because i don't
even care about someone breaking in anymore.  well, i care that $1800
worth of stuff was stolen, but in the scheme of things, it doesn't really
matter.  i still love lc though, despite what happened, and right away
after we left the store, my friend said something about that the break-in
probably happened whil lc was playing, and i had been thinking the same
thing.  it was strange.
anyways, anyone who lives in mn, or maybe western wi, should listen to
97.1 out of minneapolis.  they play lots of ig.
have a good day.
amanda

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in a message dated 96-01-26 04:05:50 est, hindy writes:

>i think that it is very interesting that you brought up the issue of yad
>vashem with the ig song.  i was told, that as you said, it does have
>something to do with the holocaust memorial, the way they read out the
>names as you enter the memorial room.

> i wonder if that is what they
>really intended.
>hindy
>
>

it seems to fit in very nicely with the theme of the song.  it seems to me
that like the holocaust memorials around the world, this song is a kind of
tribute to the millions of jews, gays, gypsies, political prisoners, and
other otherwise anti-aryans killed by the nazis.  "these are the questions
stacked like wood.  these are the answers.  here is potential gone for good."
it is the disregard for human life, the massacre of humans who otherwise
might have, say, cured cancer, brought up a family, or written a masterpiece,
that the memory of the holocaust reminds us.  the ig do us all a great
service by not letting any of us forget, for we all know history repeats
itself (some say it already has, in bosnia), and the only way we can stop  it
from happening is for each and every one of us to do our individual part.
    you know,  i never actually sat down and liistened carefully to the words
of last train until this thread was brought up.  but boy am i glad i did.
you see, i've been hearing so much about how the ig's songs relate so
closely to people's individual lives, weather it be through specific
emotions, problems, or the like.  well, with this song the ig have touched
upon something very close to my heart.  as a jew, and the grandson of
survivors, the issue of the holocaust seems to touch me in a way few other
issues do.  not only does it remind me of the ugliest chapter in my people's
hisory, it bring me a greater awareness of the problems of intolerance
everywhere, especially my own.

sorry for going on for so long.

is there anyone else out there who has been affected on a very specific,
personal level, by one of the ig's songs?  i know everyone enjoys the music,
and feels the emotion of each individual song, cause that's what the power of
good music is, and this is good music.  but is there anyone who has been
affected more personally than that?

bye,
alex

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yeah, another soundheim fan on the list. how about "into the woods" with
amy as the witch and emily as little red. and in "sweeny todd" how about
micheal lourant as beadle banford, gerard mchugh as anthony and kristen
hall as the beggar woman?
ben

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subject:      this train revised

        a while back, a question was posed about who originally recorded
this train.  one person said it was peter, paul and mary.  another believed
it had some earlier incarnation.

        at an april 1994 concert, one month before so was released, i swore
i remembered amy saying that it was a woody guthrie song (or was it
arlo?...no, woody).  i haven't bothered to research it, so i am offering it
up now.  (my face is prepared to redden, if i am mistaken)

btw, at that concert a&e played every song off so and the audience audibly
groaned because they didn't know any of the songs.  amy apologized stating
that they had to learn them all.  oh, how naive we were!

eileen

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subject:      re: amy and em on broadway

at 11:44 am 1/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
>yeah, another soundheim fan on the list. how about "into the woods" with
>amy as the witch and emily as little red.

ooo!  i like this idea.  except i'd rather see amy play the big bad wolf and
emily play rapunzel (such a strange name :)

"every moment is a moment when you're in the woods" - s. sondheim
cylinda

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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      ca ig party!!
x-cc:         frisco@uclink.berkeley.edu, mtngrl@aol.com,
              und.tlf@hal.lamar.edu, mmessner@step.mother.com

if you're out of state and have no intention of visiting the golden state
(yeah...sure....golden), you might want to delete this message now.

i've been such a flake during the last couple of months and i know that
summer is months away, but i am rather serious about this one.

        california list party!

        ca. is really two states...north and south.  and i realize
everyone has their own lives and crap.  going between north and south is
really no problem for me because i was planning a southern california
trip sometime summer to revisit my cousins and me mum lives in the bay
area.  so really, we are talking about the possibility of two individual
list parties or one collective jam.  however...the travel for the latter
idea would be in order, a luxury not everyone has.

        so just start dropping me lines if you're interested and live in
california.  if any out of state/country listmembers will be visiting ca.
during summer, let me know.  i just want enough time to get everyone
together and not rush through the way i go through my lovelife or
something.  we can all collectively put this together, agenda and all,
but i'm trying to find all you ca. residents.

chatter chirp squeak buzz...
skooteri

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date:         fri, 26 jan 1996 15:40:38 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      sejarez

        this is something i've been wondering since 1990 when i first
heard "world falls" and i was wondering if anyone could educate me with
the answer to this.  you know the part that goes "sejarez said 'don't let
go; just plant the seeds and watch them grow'" ?  does anyone know who
sejarez was?  i think i actually looked it up once, but never found anything.
  -julie

ps hello jennifer and tally!  i'll try to write back soon!

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subject:      indigo

                                               indigo

                               copyright 1996 by matthew j. pallamary


i often sit alone at night
waiting
with all my being
poised for the embrace beneath a shroud of emptiness until
two voices of hope come to me in the darkness
lifting my heart like angel's wings
soaring
two aspects of my self blossom and passionate flight carries my soul
high on the power of their spirit
transporting me to that elusive moment of bliss before letting me fall gently
drifting
back down into the prison that holds me close to its bosom

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subject:      old ig recordings

to anyone that can help me...

             i am looking for copies of old ig albums like "blue
food" and such that are no longer in print.  if anyone can help me,
i'd really appreciate it!  thanks y'all..

                                   shannon shevock (yamaha)

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from:         jmiller <s013jem@discover.wright.edu>
subject:      re: amy and em on broadway
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960126114046.6943b-100000@email1.asu.edu>

on fri, 26 jan 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

> yeah, another soundheim fan on the list. how about "into the woods" with
> amy as the witch and emily as little red. and in "sweeny todd" how about
> micheal lourant as beadle banford, gerard mchugh as anthony and kristen
> hall as the beggar woman?
>

so, benjamin--should we forward this suggestion to kristen hall to see
what she thinks??  (;

jenifer m
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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subject:      video singles

hi y'all (oh sorry, we did that one already didn't we?!)

do any serious fans out there have video singles of stuff like
"galileo" and "bury my heart"?? if so, might you be persuaded into
trading some stuff?

andrew

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from:         amanda r bakken <bakkena@stolaf.edu>
subject:      re: this train revised
x-to:         "eileen t. mulligan" <mulligae@gar.union.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01510105ad2ec1e3648b@[149.106.42.7]>

you are right--one of the guthries wrote it, (and probably performed it)
but ppm also played it.
-amanda
on fri, 26 jan 1996, eileen t. mulligan wrote:

>         a while back, a question was posed about who originally recorded
> this train.  one person said it was peter, paul and mary.  another believed
> it had some earlier incarnation.
>
>         at an april 1994 concert, one month before so was released, i swore
> i remembered amy saying that it was a woody guthrie song (or was it
> arlo?...no, woody).  i haven't bothered to research it, so i am offering it
> up now.  (my face is prepared to redden, if i am mistaken)
>
> btw, at that concert a&e played every song off so and the audience audibly
> groaned because they didn't know any of the songs.  amy apologized stating
> that they had to learn them all.  oh, how naive we were!
>
> eileen
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subject:      re: this train revised
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i, too, heard that the original "this train" was by woody guthrie.  plus
i play guitar for a youth group and i think i saw the original in the
song book we use.  i'm pretty sure it is by woody.
  -julie

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reply-to:     matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         matthew j smith <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from julie:

>i, too, heard that the original "this train" was by woody guthrie.  plus
>i play guitar for a youth group and i think i saw the original in the
>song book we use.  i'm pretty sure it is by woody.

the song was also recorded by the blues and gospel singer/guitarist sister
rosetta tharpe.   tharpe was a pioneer in popular music because she was not
only a superb singer but also a virtuosic guitarist.   there was a programme
on (i think) bbc2 a few days ago about black music in the first half of this
century (eg thomas dorsey, mahalia (sp?) jackson etc) and tharpe was shown
singing "i'm going to lay down my sword and shield, down by the riverside
..." with this huge gospel choir behind her while she was playing these
metallic blues riffs on her electric guitar ... it was funny, but she was
just brilliant.   i'd love to hear both guthrie's and tharpe's versions ...
i bet they are dead different.

mat

p.s. the lyrics to the original, for those wondering, are printed on my web
page:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/glossary.html       - indigo index
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|  matthew j smith   |  "[the priest] said that if you have to work    |
|  mts5@aber.ac.uk   |      for anyone, an absentee boss is best."     |
|                    |         - jeannette winterson, "the passion"    |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|    billy bragg / indigo girls info:  http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/    |
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from:         rick b sayre <oracle1310@aol.com>
subject:      musical (minimal ig content)

alright, here i go...  grease is the word- just as long as amy can sing
"greased lightning"!!!!
although, i personally would enjoy seeing them in a stage version of
"newsies". . .

;)
oracle

*when the angels came down
i'd say don't you dare-
you know not what you do
may god take me first
for better or worse, i love you...*
-debbie gibson.

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subject:      re: nigc (just wondering...)
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in a message dated 96-01-25 18:22:53 est, you write:

> my birthday is january 14.  just turned 19

hi!  thanks for the entry and belated happy birthday!!  my brother's birthday
is also on the fourteenth!!  he is the person who introduced me to the ig and
i'll be forever grateful!  i sent him wind chimes for his bday to symbolize
the music and beauty that he brought into my life.   the two of you are in
good company :))

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subject:      welcome me!

hello everyone!

i've been a member of the list for about a week now, and i've finally found
some time to post a message to you all, oh, i mean, to y'all!!  :)

i'm a full time student at arizona state univ majoring in music ed.(as well
as holding down a full time job-yikes!)  and have been an ig fan since '88
when i first heard "closer to find".  i've been reading alot of your stories
about the girls and how they have affected your lives, and i couldnt agree
more.  they truely are wonderful, and i'm looking forward to being a member
of the list and sharing stories and info about a&e.

jan

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      cd cover query

hi there

it's midday here in the uk and it's trying really hard to snow
outside.  my friend has gone home, so i'm all on my own now and it's
kind of sad.  so i thought i'd write to you guys out there and see
what's been happening over the last few days.

joanne and i have spent hours over the last few days listening to ig
and talking about them.  we went on a big shopping spree to belfast
and bought all the ig cd's that we could find.  i don't think that we
have them all yet, but i don't think that it's possible to get all
their cd's in the uk...i'll just get them next time i'm out in the
states.

anyway, we were looking at all their cd's and noticed that all of
them except '4.5' have some sort of representation of a & e on the
front.  '4.5' however has a bird with a picture behind it and some
flowers, plants and a butterfly, with no sign of a & e anywhere.
then we looked real close and the chest of the bird was made up of
cttings of what looks like a mans chest, and a nipple is really
clear.  so we are really intrigued as to the meaning and significance
of this cover.  does anyone know what it means or know why it's so
different from past covers.  any response would be appreciated...i'd
like to know that i'm not the only one who has noticed this.

talk to you later

helene

ps i found a really cool picture of a & e with nanci griffith on the
net...i was dead excited...my favorites all together!!

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from:         zvika moretzky <zvi_m@parker.inter.net.il>
subject:      thanks from the israeli (the land of canaan) big fan

hello everybody,

many thanks to all those wonderful people who gave me the information
i asked for, about the ig video cassettes. i've tryed to order them through
tower records but i've been told that they are "not available".
this sounds very strange, and it made me very angry and disappointed.
maybe i should try harder. anyway, i've got two more cd's of the ig- ig and so.
i also intend to be in london again in a few months and i will check there too.
the reason why i did not respond your massages until now, is that something
was wrong with my e-mail system and some of the mail was deleted.
also, i can use this computer (which is my brother's) only on weekends when
i'm in tel aviv. i'll be very glad to hear from you again and i'm still on the
list. the more i hear the ig the more i like them, so keep writing.
goodbye and shalom from the israeli (the land of canaan) big fan

talya moretzky, jerusalem.

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      to all uk listies...

you know how a list-party was organised in california last week, we
should do the same over here.  there's quite a few of us on the list
now...pity there's no sign of an ig concert in the near future to
meet up at.  any of you thinking of going to the newport folk
festival in the summer.

just some ideas anyway...

have fun

helene

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subject:      "spirit of '73" cd

hey, has anyone out there ever heard of the "spirit of '73" cd????  the
indigo girls sing "it won't take long" on it, and it sounds great!!!!!!
sarah mclachlan, melissa ferrick, sophie b. hawkins to name a few are on
it, and i've never heard it mentioned here.  it's a great cd, it's a
"rock for choice" cd, supporting the roe vs. wade thing...


renee

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subject:      re: welcome me!
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my god jan do we have alot of things in common. i am also a student at
arizona state and i'm a vocal performance major. weird huh? what's your
primary instrument by the way? o.k. talk to ya soon. i'll probably see
you around the music building.
see ya later,
ben

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subject:      dry county
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**this was supposed to go out friday morning** sorry it's late


heya all.. there is a *really* cool new band in atlanta... that has sold out
2 of their first three gigs!!!! it's called dry county.. they are a
bluegrassy/acoustic band...   i had the chance to see them open for viva la
diva tonight...  and boy oh boy were they ***** incredible*****  take me
back to old virginy *grin*  (my home)...  the band plays together like
they've been together for a long time...  i was amazed...  it was truly one
of those things where you **knew** that the band was enjoying themselves
**immensely** on stage... lots of smilin' and dancin'.. and jammin' on
acoustic guitars, basses, and banjos.. plus of course.. the percussion....
during one song, w/ no words, i sat back and felt like i was back at va tech
(in the mountains of va) listenin' to some good ol' appalachain bluegrass...
*big grin**    i was *highly* dissapointed when they had to announced that
they had to end their set.....  and i was *highly* dissapointed at the
rememberance of the fact that their next show at the frieght room is
cancelled.....  *but***

*dum da da dum**  drum roll pleeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!! i was *smilin'* again,
when their bassist, laura miles, presented me w/ a flyer to their **next**
show!!!!!  and you ask, when is it??? well, have no fear, i'll tell you!!!!!

it's---- (write this down)  **now** i said-- (write this down)--

                sunday, february  ***4th**** at 9pm  at--

                             smiths olde bar.... for those of you who don't
know, smiths is on the piedmont side of the block at the intersestion of
piedmont and monroe.. in atlanta....  *that's ansley mall** for those of you
who don't know that.... and just a mere minute drive down piedmont from the
park...

be there..

*smile*
water

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from:         andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>

do any british fans remember an appearance by a&e on british tv a few
years ago? i think it was either bbc's "later with jools holland", or
channel 4's "rock steady." i used to have it on video, but seem to
have lost it somewhere over the years!!
can anyone help??


andrew

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on sat, 27 jan 1996 11:27:29 -0500, renee l grebe wrote:

>hey, has anyone out there ever heard of the "spirit of '73" cd????  the
>indigo girls sing "it won't take long" on it, and it sounds great!!!!!!

you will find a sound file at the sony music website. the url is:

http://www.music.sony.com/music/artistinfo/spiritof73rockforchoice/indigo.htm

b4n,   georg


---
got too much of a mind. wouldn't you rather be happy ? - dead kennedys

georg petersen, heintzestrasse 20, d-24582 bordesholm, germany

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subject:      re: y'all
x-to:         bakkena@stolaf.edu

i'm georgia native........and y'all is my most used word...............i love
to think that only georgians....(true grit georgians)....use the word....but,
hey........it's so wonderful that ig have been able to spread it..........
peace, all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ana

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subject:      re: this train revised
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i've got a copy of "this train" as performed by peter, paul & mary, and
i'm sure it's credited to peter yarrow, and not woody guthrie.

rebecca.

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subject:      indicated iii

okay, nobody yell at me.... i know that since i joined the list there
have been a number of msgs posted about indicated iii but i didn't know
what those people were talking about so i deleted them.  then my friend
filled me in on what it is, and i'm really interested in (a) submitting
something and (b) getting copies of the first 2 editions.  so _who_ was
it that i'm supposed to get in touch with?  whoever it is, if you read
this, please write back to me with more information, esp where i would
send our tape...
thanks (and sorry for not paying attention the first time around),
  julie

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from:         "<connie lindell>" <cojehali@aol.com>
subject:      re: (nigc) jade, where are you?

sorry for the bandwidth, folks, but i've been trying to send a message
through to jade murray, and it keeps getting bounced!  jade, if you're out
there, tell me how to reach you!  i'm sending the mail to
jade_murray@link.org  but it won't go thru! help!

-connie
cojehali@aol.com

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date:         sat, 27 jan 1996 10:45:15 -0500
reply-to:     via.fax.or.smail.please@thank.you
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from:         michal hirschberger <michal16@netquandry.net>
subject:      faq 16 / *stop*......... before you buy another over-priced usa
              magazine at the store or by subscription!    get a whole year
              free!

-----> note:   please first read my note which appears below the "request
for more info form."  then, to get more info, just fill out the "request
for more info" form completely and *fax* or *smail* it back to the company.
you will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

important notice for those faxing in their reply:  please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  if you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  this is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
    with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  this last
    provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
    via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
note:  their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.  if you
have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at
work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or
first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
request for more info:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                              718-967-1550 in the usa

or via smail (airmail) to:    magazine club inquiry center
                                         att. free catalogue-by-email dept.
                                         po box 990
                                         staten island ny  10312-0990

sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  if you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  if you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

name:
internet email address:
smail home address:
city-state-zip:
country:
work tel. #:
work fax #:
home tel. #:
home fax #:

how did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  referral by:  michal hirschberger.
012796-l

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

name of usa mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


catalogue format options:
1.  19-part email- can be read by everyone (~525 k total).
2.  for more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525k - you
     must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
     open it with your word processor.  if in doubt, don't ask for this
     version.  this isn't for internet *newbies.* better to order option 1
     and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
     with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
     to deal with this option.
3.  for more advanced macintosh computer users: compressed attached
     text file, created with a stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
      ~133k.  can be decompressed by any macintosh computer user; no
     special expansion software or knowledge of stuffit (tm) needed.  you
     just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
     (unstuffs). this is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
     you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  it will cut
     your download time by 75%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in
     option #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
     able to do.
4.  for expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
     stuffit(tm),  ~114k.  can be decompressed by any computer user who
     has expansion software to decompress (expand) stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
     this is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
     download time by 78%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in option
     #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.

hi fellow 'netters,

my name is michal hirschberger and i recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the usa that has a free 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and i have been very pleased with them.
they have over 1,500 different usa titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   as for computer magazines from the usa, they
more of a selection than i ever knew even existed.  they have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

within the usa, for their usa members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  this is their price
guarantee.

overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for usa magazines.  on some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  they
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   in the usa, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  they are so cheap in the usa!   well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  they are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the usa and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   this is their price guarantee.  around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited english as a 2nd language.

their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

please do not email me as i am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
i don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

they guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal i have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but i have never found a lower rate yet.
they assured me that if i ever do, they will beat it.

they have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as i
haved moved from one country to another.

they have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the usa.   they will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
usa titles they sell.

they can arrange delivery to virtually any country and i think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  outside the usa there is a
charge for fph (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  i have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  they even helped me with an address change
when i moved from one country to another.

the owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   when he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  he is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (i
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via e-mail.

he has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  if you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but i think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, i guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

he only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  when i got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  i think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  i am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

they then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

once you get in, you'll love them. i do.


sincerely,

michal hirschberger


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  it is a great deal!  if you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   if you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for christmas,
chanukah or any other occasion.  please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   i will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
thank you.

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date:         sat, 27 jan 1996 21:29:28 -0600
reply-to:     the searcher <kidfears@tfsksu.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         the searcher <kidfears@tfsksu.net>
subject:      re: faq 16 / *stop*......... before you buy another over-priced
              usa              magazine at the store or by subscription! get a
              whole year              free!

wouldn't you know.......
an email like this originated from a faked account :-(

marianne

at 10:45 am 01/27/1996 -0500, you wrote:
>-----> note:   please first read my note which appears below the "request
>for more info form."  then, to get more info, just fill out the "request
>for more info" form completely and *fax* or *smail* it back to the company.
>you will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
>the info request form below.
>
>important notice for those faxing in their reply:  please make sure you

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date:         sat, 27 jan 1996 22:50:41 -0500
reply-to:     katie mccurry <ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         katie mccurry <ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
subject:      4.5 for sale

hey y'all. i recently picked up a copy of 4.5 at a cd store the other
day. it was then i realized that i should not be spending any more
money!! if anyone is interested in buying it for $24 dollars( i bought it
for $28) please let me know in the next few days!! if anyone has a cd
boot (in w/the out... etc) maybe we could work out a trade. i already
have blood & fire & complicated girls on cd...  please e-mail me privately
if you are interested!! hope someone wants it :) love, katie ><}}}">

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date:         sat, 27 jan 1996 21:54:00 cst
reply-to:     "kacy n. belew" <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "kacy n. belew" <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
organization: the university of alabama, tuscaloosa, al
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 25 jan 1996 to 26 jan 1996
in-reply-to:  message of sat, 27 jan 1996 00:00:00 +1900 from
              <listserv@netspace.org>

to curtis:
          as far as i know ig uses martin guitars, now and on back on the bus,
and emily uses d'addario lights/ tortex picks...and i'm not sure what amy
uses...something tough, she breaks strings wayyy to often!

                                           --kacy
                                             irc-->towanda

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date:         sat, 27 jan 1996 21:33:45 cst
reply-to:     "kacy n. belew" <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "kacy n. belew" <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
organization: the university of alabama, tuscaloosa, al
subject:      drugs and amy ray? ... please

to:           indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
in-reply-to:  message of fri, 26 jan 1996 00:00:03 +1900 from <listserv@netspace
message-id:   <960127.214317.cst.kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>

hallo all ig fans:
          i just noticed that someone asked if amy has a drug problem. i
remember reading that post a few days ago about jcs in seattle and amy taking
a lot of drugs to keep her awake. . . i think you need to think before you
write--or before you speak.  posting something like that gives bad
connotations. the only thing people are gonna see is " amy took a lot of drugs"
and what do you think that's going to start?
          the only thing amy takes a lot of is the juice at the ymca juice bar.

  --kacy

-- a far out trip through a hard rock tunnel --

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