lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-02d


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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 00:34:05 est
reply-to:     ryan cockrill <jrcockr@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         ryan cockrill <jrcockr@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>
subject:      mailing list

ig,
   i just finished a survey of you on a netscape server and found this
address. i really have no idea what it is but i'm a groupie so i'll try
anything. i don't know who will receive this but i love your music. i got to
see you in concert once...but it was wondeful. i could not believ that i missed
your last tour. maybe next time....well, i better not write to much for fear
of how will actually read this. :-) well, if this is anything truely associated
with the indigo girls i would love receive some type of acknowledgement. i
hope to hear from someone one! thanks!!
                                           -ryan cockrill

                                            jrcockr@univscvm.csd.sc.edu

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 01:18:31 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      bots video

hello, good evening & good morning...

with regard to the following....

> i read an article mentioning that ig did a cover of lou reed's
>"walk on the wild side"  in bots.. but it's certainly not in there..

> does anyone have the slightest clue what happened to it?   i think
> that cover would be really interesting. :)

i've read where, like so many things in film, it got edited out of
the
final version.  it would be great to see it in a video format,
wouldnt
it?

melissa

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 10:00:56 +0000
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
subject:      getting a digest

all - i'm leaving work for four weeks at the end of this week to have a
wedding and go away, sort out my life and finally spend some quality time
with the lady i'm spending the rest of my life with. we currently are 200
+ miles apart and it's killing me !

anyhow whilst i'm gone i'd like to be able to get the digest so i don't
come back into work with 1000's of messages to plough thro' i'm intrested
in the new song a day thread - it reveals loads and shows loads of
potential if we an keep the momentum. i'd hate to miss all of this. can
some one tell me how to receive the digest only !

cheers - jules
p.s. i'd like to than a+e for making the 2 hours of driving i do each day
a more pleasurable experience !

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 07:13:13 -0500
reply-to:     rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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from:         rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject:      crazy game guitar alert!
x-cc:         scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu

for everyone who is trying to learn to play crazy game - stop!

in the next few days, i'll be posting my version of the song with some
details about chord fingerings and so on.

scot ninneman's version is incorrect in many places so i recommend that you
wait until my version comes out.  if you learn his version first, it'll be
more difficult to learn my version because of the way your brain works!

outstanding attempt scot!  i never could have put that together strictly by ear!

my version combines the following:  the version from the songbook for
strange fire, watching video of emily playing this song, and my own
guesswork.  i may have a few chords incorrect but it sounds pretty good to me.

give me some time to type it up.  after i post it, i expect some discussion
about probable mistakes i've made.  maybe then we can get one definitive
version for everyone to enjoy.


rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
goddard space flight center
greenbelt, maryland  20771

hubble space telescope project
flight assurance manager
phone:  301-286-8455
fax:  301-286-1779

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 13:38:28 +0100
reply-to:     florinek <alfabeta@bonny.hol.nl>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         florinek <alfabeta@bonny.hol.nl>
subject:      violin-fiddle

hi everyone,

thanks to everyone who responded to my request for easy-to-play-ig-songs.
i'm working my way through blood and fire, i really like it. my neighbours
definetely don't. well...
anyway, a friend of me plays the violin and she wonders if someone has
chords/notes of those violin parts in ig songs. could someone give me some
information on this?

thanks!

florine

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 13:55:03 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
organization: prifysgol cymru - aberystwyth - university of wales
subject:      re: 1200 curfews web page
x-to:         "mr. sven fjorbhergher" <pnorman@eclair.roanoke.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.90.960219191511.8705a-100000@eclair.roanoke.edu>

on mon, 19 feb 1996, mr. sven fjorbhergher wrote:

> hey there all
>
>         i've been doing some clean-up on my web madness and would like to
> get rid of the 1200 curfews picture page i put up back at it's release.
> i know some people have a link to this site and all and so i thought i
> would see if someone would like to take it away from me and mirror it...
> i'll send you the html and the jpg files... anyway...
>         in the next few days there should be a "stupid ig photo" page
> sponsored by one of our own crazy shutterbugs lorinda... if you have a
> picture that you've take like of the back of amy's head or just an empty
> stage where they played or where you can see only the top of emily's head
> or any other silly ig photo send it to me or lorinda for inclusion on the
> page... e-mail me for an address... anyway... phil

can you send me a copy?   i'll have some more space left over now i've
got rid of the courier magazine (the college mag which i've moved to a
union file space).

mat

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 09:57:00 pst
reply-to:     "hullett, belinda/mgm" <bhullett@mgm.ms.ch2m.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "hullett, belinda/mgm" <bhullett@mgm.ms.ch2m.com>
subject:      new orleans

i receive the digest format of the list mail and have been seeing all
this new orleans concert information go by.  i only a few short hours
from there and have never seen ig live, so, needless to say, i am
interested in getting more information.  could anyone out there who knows
something definite (i.e., phone number to order tickets, dates, location
etc.) send it to me or post it on the list?  i would really like to see
them perform and have been checking the new orleans web server for
details, but can't seem to come up with anything.  i need help!

any assistance offered would be greatly appreciated.

bah

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 09:50:53 est
reply-to:     angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
organization: university of louisville
subject:      shawn colvin

is anyone out there as huge a fan as i am over shawn colvin??   i must admit th
at my crazy mom got me hooked on her and her music usually doesn't rub off on m
e, but this time...thank god it did!!

also, did you know that igs sang back up on one of shawn's songs??  "walkin thr
ough fire"  it is on the fat city album of hers!!  phenominal!!

just curious,
angimoo!  (angie)

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 10:08:11 est
reply-to:     angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
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from:         angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
organization: university of louisville
subject:      my favorite

i think that my most favorite album that they have put out is definately "1200
curfews".  i ahve everyone of their releases and for some reason, the way that
this particular compilation flows, well lets just say that it was put together
in the most awesome manner...and my most favorite two songs from there are "bac
k together again" and "midnight train to ga"-- by the way, who is that chick th
at is also singing lead with them?  her voice is very mysterious...

angie

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 09:26:42 -0500
reply-to:     d.perkin@access.texas.gov
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comments:     authenticated sender is <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      1200 curfews

hi y'all

1200 curfews is one of my all time favorite albums.

until recently i had never heard anyone verbalize the name. when i
did hear it verbalized the person said "twelve o'clock curfews"

i have been thinking that the name is twelve hundred curfews.

so anyone know which it's supposed to be?

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
                                  -david st. hubins
'
                    "these go  up to eleven"
                                   -nigel tufnel

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 15:13:45 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: shawn colvin nigc

angie wrote

"is anyone out there as huge a fan as i am over shawn colvin??   i must admit th
at my crazy mom got me hooked on her and her music usually doesn't rub off on m
e, but this time...thank god it did!!

also, did you know that igs sang back up on one of shawn's songs??  "walkin thr
ough fire"  it is on the fat city album of hers!!  phenominal!!

just curious,
angimoo!  (angie)"


i haven't heard much of her music...i picked up a cheap cd single
ages ago, purely because she had mcc singing on it.  i first noticed
her while i was in glasgow...i don't know anything about her, but
there were a lot of her cd's in the shops.  anyway, i think the song
i've got is one cool remove, or something like that.

gotta go...talk to y'all later

love helene

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 10:13:10 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      ig unplugged

first, a day of celebration -- i just finished my first legal brief and i'm handing it in in about an hour.

now the ig content.  i recently was paging though a book that listed all of the mtv unplugged shows and found that the ig, michelle shocked and jules shear had joined together for a show.  was this ever released on cd?  does anyone have a video copy of the show?  does anyone have any info on it?

thanks!
alycia

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we swore to ourselves we'd go to the end of the world
but i got caught up in the whirl and the twirl of it all
a day in the sun dancing alone
baby i'm so sorry
                                               - amy ray

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 11:24:16 est
reply-to:     "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
subject:      meeting in new orleans

hi gang!

i think it might be best if we met in the arena somewhere after the concert.
once we all scatter to the parking lot, it wil be harder to locate everyone.  i
live a little over an hour from no, so i will call uno or the local ticketmaster
this evening and see if they can send me a copy of the arena's layout.  if this
is possible, we can designate a sector/area to meet in.

if you wanted to meet before the concert as well, the hotel idea was good or
here's another.  to the right of uno (if my memory serves me correctly) is the
lakefront, which has benches and plenty of parking spaces along the water, and
to the left of uno is a shopping center.  it may sound "corny" but we could
possibly meet in one of these areas.  if this is a good/bad idea, let me know.
i can check it out further.

as far as jazzfest goes, this will be my first year, but from what i've heard
the area is pretty big.  so, it would probably be best to arrange a time to meet
(in front of whichever stage ig are playing on).  we would still need an
identifying object here (a poster, flag, etc.).

any other ideas?  i'll let ya'll know about the uno layout.  let me know what
you think!

love,

tamara

***  "without music, life is a journey through a desert." -- pat conroy ***

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 08:54:05 -0800
reply-to:     dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dianne <dianne@uci.edu>
subject:      re: (no subject)
x-to:         thomas o'neill <toneill@emory.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199602210224.vaa09603@moe.cc.emory.edu>

i'm not really thomas o'neill either. i just play him online. ;>

hohoho hahahahaha hee hee hee
________________________________________________________________-

on wed, 21 feb 1996, thomas o'neill wrote:

> i'm not really thomas, but i'm using his computer.  my e-mail is
> dpajak@emory.edu
>
> name's denise pajak
>
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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 12:12:39 -30000
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      guitar goodies 2 ftp

attached is the sounds directory from the winsite.com site with one line
explanations of the zipfiles available there.  especially note dschfi21.zip
and tran10.zip.  if anyone is unable to d/l these zipfiles, let me know and
i'll send them to you in an e-mail.

jude :)


the following was included as an attachement.  please use uudecode
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subject:      "hey jesus" today is your day.

   today is "hey jesus" day, so let's hear from all interested parties.

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subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.

on 21 feb 96 at 12:19, angela ciesla wrote:

>    today is "hey jesus" day, so let's hear from all interested parties.


this is one of my all time favorite songs. i love the sadness this
song conveys. the sound of emily's voice.

for me the song is about the desperation and pain  one goes through
when losing the love of someone i am still in love with. knowing that
this persons leaving is beyond your control. desperatly praying to
god to make the person stay.

i think most people have been through this. i know i have.

i love the line "i'm not going to call on you anymore.." the sadness
and resignation in emily's voice is just heart wrenching.

this is one of my favorite songs to play on guitar. emily really
tapped into some deep emotions within me on this song. this song
really helped me come to terms with the end of a relationship i had
been grieving over for awhile. it helped me to experience and get
through the pain and anger i had been avoiding feeling.  it's weird to
me, but often times when i am depressed playing this song can help me
lift myself out of the depression. pretty weird since this is a
fairly sad song. i don't know. maybe that's normal.

i think emily managed to write a song that captures most of the
stages one goes through at the end of a love relationship. denial,
anger, resignation (acceptance). this is a great song, imho.

by the way, this was a really cool idea, to examine a new song each
day! good deal.


peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
                                  -david st. hubins
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                    "these go  up to eleven"
                                   -nigel tufnel

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 10:31:06 -0500
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subject:      nis poster thanks, trades?

thanks to all who sent me infor about obtaining a poster of the nis cover...
anyone else with info is welcome :-)....
i am yearning for bootlegs..... how do we go about trading or copying?
my collection is still somewhat limited, however, as it grows, there will
be no problem returning favors.  i have several melissa etheridge boots,
though, as well as tori amos.  (video thingees also)  any takers?

by the way, y'all sound like you are ready to make time move with this
concert in new orleans.  if funds were available, i would be pushing
the clock hands with you.....  an idea to id each other?  this is how we
did it when i saw ig at cornell university last winter.  we met at a
bar/restaurant a few hours before hand right near the university, and
then all went together.  we just told the hostess at the door that we
were meeting several people from out of town, and where we were sitting.
i realize that you all equal more than 25 people, but the meeting at a
agreed upon place is the idea.  btw, nothing beats the girls singing in
an old airplane hanger.  it was reserved seating, but my friend kathy &
i (kathy, btw, is an old buddy of caroline aiken {hence her vested
interest in the following short story}) charmed our way to the front of
the stage where amy proceeded to step on my shirt sleeves and rip a
perfectly good thermal......
oh well, the price you pay for obsession.... (haha)
anyhow, kathy managed to get a message to caroline via ig security and
ig, so the charming eyes paid off.....
boring life, i know, but hey, i'm in pennsylvania.  that's about as close
to amy and emily as most of us yankees get :-)

one more thing..... i know now that there are billions of kristen hall fans
out there, any disappear fear fans or caroline aiken?  just curious.

time to fly...

  o o
   ~
  \_/

karrie


                    "i search for an absolute distinction..."
                               -emily saliers

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subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.

to me this song is about disillusionment with god when things do happen
the way you think they should.  a lot of times when you loose someone
in a car wreck, or to aid's or just because they leave you, you wonder
why god would let that happen.

we are taught in church, if we ask god for something and believe that it
will happen, it will happen.  but, sometimes you can ask god for a favor
and believe in it, and it still does not come to pass.  this can cause you
to re-think what you have been taught.  i've seen people who had als or cancer
pray to be healed, but they die anyway.  i have a hard time reconciling this.

to me, emily is asking the same question job asked.  why does god allow
bad things to happen.  what purpose is served when four innocent girls are
murdered in a yogurt shop, or when the government decides that 6 million jew
and 12 million other people do not deserve to live.  these things are hard
to come to grips with from a human prospective.

trant

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subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.

i also really like "hey jesus."  the emotion that comes through in this song is
just wonderful =).  but for me, i relate not to the part about losing someone i
loved in relationship sense, but just relating to the whole situation with
talking to jesus.  there are so many times when i call on him, even though i'm
not "his faithful servant" as the song goes, and yet i still expect him to help
me out.  there have been many times where i have questioned his power like emily
did in this song, especially after my best friend jean died.  i questioned
why...and was even angry.  time helped me get past the anger, although there are
still times when i question it.  it kills me inside to think he had the power to
stop it, yet took her life.  but there must be a reason, and i just tell myself
she's better with him anyway.  anyway, sorry about the emotional babbling.  the
basic feeling this song gives to me is the though of my faith in jesus and the
times i have been frustrated with him and have just wanted to give up. people
have questioned my faith, i have questioned my faith, i just hope god doesn't
question it.  i keep believing, even when it hurts to think about the people i
have lost....  well...that's my .02 on that one =)  it truelly is a great
song...

peace and hugs,
nicole
here's a new quote to make you all think {thanks to carlisle stockton and the ig list for this one =)}...

"and i will not be complacent.  and i will not be a racist.  and i will not be a sexist.  and i will not be a homophobic asshole.  and i will not be sexist.  and i will love.  and i will love.  and i will be happy that i am alive."
                                                                                                                                                                                                --amy ray (ig)

cool frienship quotes (dedicated to all my friends and my bestest bud jaime)

"what is a friend?  a single soul dwelling within two bodies"--aristotle

"leaving ain't fair, you know, parting ain't just.  people got to move on,
people got to do what they must...and we're back together again.  and i'm never      gonna lose you as a friend..."--emily saliers (ig)

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subject:      nigc: have a laugh....

personally, i read clarence as my graduate advisor (not a manager),
but to each their own.  enjoy =)

                                -- chris


> is it junk mail? well, maybe. but for some of us, it's life:
>
>
>
>                               a parable
>
>
> once upon a time, there lived a man named clarence who had a pet frog
> named felix.  clarence lived a modestly comfortable existence on what
> he earned working at the wal-mart, but he always dreamed of being
> rich.
>
> "felix!" he exclaimed one day, "we're going to be rich!  i'm going to
> teach you how to fly!"
>
> felix, of course, was terrified at the prospect: "i can't fly, you
> idiot......i'm a frog, not a canary!"
>
> clarence, disappointed at the initial reaction, told felix: "that
> negative attitude of yours could be a real problem. i'm sending you to
> class."
>
> so felix went to a three day class and learned about problem solving,
> time management, and effective communication.... but nothing about
> flying.
>
> on the first day of "flying lessons", clarence could barely control
> his excitement (and felix could barely control his bladder).  clarence
> explained that their apartment had 15 floors, and each day felix would
> jump out of a window starting with the first floor eventually getting
> to the top floor.
>
> after each jump, felix would analyze how well he flew, isolate on the
> most effective flying techniques, and implement the improved process
> for the next flight.  by the time they reached the top floor, felix
> would surely be able to fly.
>
> felix pleaded for his life, but it fell on deaf ears.  "he just
> doesn't understand how important this is..." thought clarence, "but i
> won't let nay-sayers get in my way."
>
> so, with that, clarence opened the window and threw felix out (who
> landed with a thud).
>
> next day (poised for his second flying lesson) felix again begged not
> to be thrown out of the window.  with that, clarence opened his pocket
> guide to managing more effectively and showed felix the part about how
> one must always expect resistance when implementing new programs.
>
> and with that, he threw felix out the window.(thud)
>
> on the third day (at the third floor) felix tried a different ploy:
> stalling, he asked for a delay in the "project" until better weather
> would make flying conditions more favorable.
>
> but clarence was ready for him: he produced a timeline and pointed to
> the third milestone and asked, "you don't want to slip the schedule do
> you?"
>
> >from his training, felix knew that not jumping today would mean that
> he would have to jump twice tomorrow.... so he just said: "ok.  let's
> go."  and out the window he went.
>
> now this is not to say that felix wasn't trying his best.  on the
> fifth day he flapped his feet madly in a vain attempt to fly.  on the
> sixth day he tied a small red cape around his neck and tried to think
> "superman" thoughts.
>
> but try as he might, he couldn't fly.
>
> by the seventh day, felix (accepting his fate) no longer begged for
> mercy.... he simply looked at clarence and said: "you know you're
> killing me, don't you?"
>
> clarence pointed out that felix's performance so far had been less
> than exemplary, failing to meet any of the milestone goals he had set
> for him.
>
> with that, felix said quietly: "shut up and open the window," and he
> leaped out, taking careful aim on the large jagged rock by the corner
> of the building.
>
> and felix went to that great lily pad in the sky.
>
> clarence was extremely upset, as his project had failed to meet a
> single goal that he set out to accomplish.  felix had not only failed
> to fly, he didn't even learn how to steer his flight as he fell like a
> sack of cement.... nor did he improve his productivity when clarence
> had told him to "fall smarter, not harder."
>
> the only thing left for clarence to do was to analyze the process and
> try to determine where it had gone wrong.
>
> after much thought, clarence smiled and said:
>
>    "next time...... i'm getting a smarter frog!"
>
>

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      shawn colvin/ig

the only song called "walkin' through fire" that ig sings on that i am familar with
is a mary chapin carpenter song, which is on mcc's "come on come on" album.  i checked
my shawn colvin "fat city" album to see if perhaps i had overlooked that song, but it's
not on that album.  i know all three artists are really good friends and occasionally
sing backup on each other's albums, but that song is actually on mcc's cd.  while we're
on the subject of folkie friends of ig, they also sing backup on nanci griffith's "these
days in an open book," which is on her "flyer" cd.  and of course, there's the wonderful
dylan cover "don't think twice, it's alright," that they do with joan baez on her latest
cd, "ring them bells."  i'm hoping sincerely that the three of them do that song in
new orleans on may 4th!

peace,

joan :)

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yeah, i like shawn's music.  i saw her first of all on the bob dylan 30th
anniversary concert video; she was performing with mary chapin-carpenter
and roseanne cash (now that's a combo that should still be working
together!). i then went to see her at stanford last january, and bought a
copy of cover girl.  she's a phenomenal guitarist and a great singer,
with just enough twang in her voice to make it interesting.

ciao for niao,
mike

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subject:      buffy

i usually don't make these sort of comments but for anyone who is
thinking about buying a buffy st. marie cd, don't. i bought one yesterday
and i couldn't believe that this woman had a reputable folk career. i'm
sure she is a lovely women and her melodies are alright but her voice is
horrifying. it was so bad i returned it!
sorry to seem like a jerk but i just had to give out my warning.
ben

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from:         sherry sierra <sherry@newwave.net>
subject:      nigc--lee's farm

i apologize for the nigc, but i forgot who requested info about lee's farm.
i know i emailed them the info, but i seem to have misplaced their email
address. anyway, the point is i found out that lee's farm is mainly for
men. i do remember that whoever it was was a woman and not interested in
men. anyway, my friend decided not to go there because there were more gay
men than gay women.

sherry

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subject:      "hey jesus" today is your day.

as an "emily" person, this is one of my least favorite songs.  it's okay,
but i'd rather move on  to other songs.

anyway, i was always wondering if 'heavily' religous were offended by this
song.  the parts:

and i asked you please please
for a favor but my baby's gone away
went away anyway
and i don't really think its fair
you've got the power to make us all
believe in you
and then we call you in our despair
and you don't come through

the part "...and you don't come through"  i always thought would piss
people off.  has anyone heard of people being offended, or are offended
themselves?

- jen

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subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.

as a christian, this is a very difficult song to listen to.  but, it is also
a very honest song.

> anyway, i was always wondering if 'heavily' religous were offended by this
> song.  the parts:
>
> and i asked you please please
> for a favor but my baby's gone away
> went away anyway
> and i don't really think its fair
> you've got the power to make us all
> believe in you
> and then we call you in our despair
> and you don't come through
>
> the part "...and you don't come through"  i always thought would piss
> people off.  has anyone heard of people being offended, or are offended
> themselves?
>
>  - jen
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>i usually don't make these sort of comments but for anyone who is
>thinking about buying a buffy st. marie cd, don't. i bought one yesterday
>and i couldn't believe that this woman had a reputable folk career. i'm
>sure she is a lovely women and her melodies are alright but her voice is
>horrifying. it was so bad i returned it!

hate to say it, but i'll have to agree on this one....i heard bmhawk on the
radio a couple of months ago, and it was so bad!  she writes great music,
but the girl can't sing.  i guess what we need to  do is keep an eye on the
writing credits for other folk singers and look for songs that she wrote but
that are sung by someone else.


jack

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subject:      the indigo idiot photo gallery

well folks...

        the indigo idiot photo gallery is up and running.  right now it
is wicked graphics intesive since i have all of the pictures right on the
page... if i get more pictures to add it will become menued and all that
good stuff, but beforewarned....  oh, and all the pictures so far are
from lorinda since no one else has submitted any...  all pictures will be
returned, and even better would be to scan it in yourself and give it to
me that way...  my mailing address is
phil norman
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campus box 1117
salem, va  24153

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comments and suggestions are welcome... and please feel free to hit my
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from:         digest camille kearl <sl6tc@cc.usu.edu>
subject:      nigc-shawn colvin

a kindred spirit here in utah loves colvin!  she writes amazing lyrics and is
very funny in concert.  if you get a chance to see her, don't miss it.
colvin, the ig, mary chapin carpenter, and nanci griffith do alot of work on
each others albums.  if you want to get more insight into not only the ig
but colvin as well, get a hold of shades of indigo it is a bootleg album which
features shawn colvin interviewing the ig.  anyway, if any one needs some new
music go invest in a shawn colvin album.  i love everyone of her albums but
i would recommend fat city.

i'll get back to lurking and writing my thesis proposal, but had to put in
my plug of excitement for shawn colvin.  i have been on the list for about
six months now and never seen her name pop up.

smilin and singin shawn colvin lyrics in my head@!

cami

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subject:      hey jesus...

this song reminds me of m
  oops
when shannon and i broke up....i met her over the internet and although
we had never met in person, we were very close in the short time
that we got to know one another....maybe that's why it ended
it was like one of those fourth of july sparklers that when you light
them they are brilliant and exciting, but then it just dies...
just like that
after we parted (she couldn't take the long distance...i don't blame
her but i could've held on because that is just how much i cared about
her) i went home and listened to this song...i cried so much i felt
like i had cried my soul right out of me.....i was really empty
inside.....i still miss her...but i'm working so much now that i don't
have time to dwell on it...which is just as well
maybe when fate is tired of pissing on me i'll go and visit her
and see if things work out then...but like i said...i don't dwell
on it much....
*sighs* anyway....that's just my little bit on that song....
sal-ray a.k.a tracy

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subject:      quick question about digest

i chose the digest format so that i would receive one message a day opposed to
20-50. so why have i recently been receiving -three- digests a day: one reg.,
and two "special issues." why is this?! this over-abundance of mail, most of
which is not even worth reading, is becoming more and more frustrating daily.

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subject:      i don't wanna know/hey jesus

hey everybody!

these two songs are both very personal and very powerful for me.  as i
have mentioned on this list before, i left the mormon church four years
ago when the woman i was in love with left on a mormon woman.  three
months later i walked out of the church, sexual orientation in hand, with
little to look back on.  i had been psychically murdered by "god,"
authority (strange fire) and the absolute heterosexuality of mormon
doctrine.

so anyway, the point being that idwk is a very angry song for me, venting
my frustrations with all that i have left behind, never wishing to
return, and yet claims my regrets, too.  even though the song is bitter
and angry, as well it should be, there is always, for me at least, a
recognition of loss and an anger that i had to lose what i lost in order
to leave the loathful things behind.

hey jesus is a personal song out of the same chapter of my life.  as i
said before in my "watershed" tirade of a few weeks ago and again above,
the woman i loved left me to go on a mormon mission.  although we both
knew it was the right thing for her to do (and, i add, has made her
tremendously happy, loving, gentle and accepting) i was still angry with
her, angry with god, angry with all the hours of prayer i put in for her
not to leave.  odd as it may sound, i did everything right for the mormon
church, i fasted, prayed, did temple work, read the scriptures, was some
kind of crazy ape-shit religious freak, and still god not only let her
leave me, but didn't come through for me either.  when she left, god's
church found it impossible to find space for me to worship.  i couldn't
make mormon ideologies work for me no matter how hard i tried.  god
failed me.  hey jesus is a song all about that experience for me.

having said all of that, however, here is my disclaimer.  nearly every
time i write part of my pale and tragic narrative about the mormon church
i get a mailbox full of "oh my god, i'm so sorry, you sound like you are
still struggling, good luck, try to find some peace" messages.  while i
am always grateful for the gestures and good wishes, the fact is, i'm
over it.  mormonism was a great chapter of my life, proved unsuccessful,
i learned wonderful things,  i got really hurt and f*cked up, i'm over
it.  i have a fabulous, happy life, love, god, spirituality, and ig.
just wanted to let you all know that i actually am a happy person,
despite the tragedies of my past life! :-)

happy hey jesus day!

chris ii
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that the
universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
        --kevin smith

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subject:      re: shawn colvin
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on wed, 21 feb 1996, angie wrote:

> also, did you know that igs sang back up on one of shawn's songs??  "walkin thr
> ough fire"  it is on the fat city album of hers!!  phenominal!!

angie - shawn had nothing to do with walking through fire, that was mary
chapin carpenter and was on the come on, come on album.   ig and shawn
have never collaborated on an official release although there is a boot
called shades of indigo which features the girls talking to shawn about
some of their songs.   emily is a big fan of chapin and shawn.
incidentally the igs also sang backup on mcc's the hard way, also off coco
and shawn sang backup on that one too.

mat

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 20 feb 1996 to 21 feb 1996 - special
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angie.....
howdy....
i believe the chick who sings lead with them is sara lee, their bassist.
(not the guitar type bass, the cello-lookin' type bass)  i saw her sing
this song with them in concert dec.1994 at cornell university, and she has
quite the lungs on her.  anyone out there feel free to correct me if i'm
wrong, but i am almost 99% sure her name is sara lee.  she's african-
american and her head is shaved.  there's a physical description.

ok, hold the phone..... i lied.  just one more product of an uninformed world.
that's me :-)   her name is gail ann dorsey.  it's in the liner notes of
1200 curfews.  amy also introduces her at the end of the song when she
thanks the audience.  but the physical description i just gave holds,
because i saw them sing it.  i'm just lousy with names.....
please forgive me :-)

karrie
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands with impending mid-terms"


                "we sit here in our storm and drink a toast...
                    to the slim chance of love's recovery"
                             -emily saliers

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hi y'all,

very thoughtful posts on this song!  this is one of my favorite songs ever
because it deals so powerfully and honestly with a very complex topic.
for me, the songs revolves around the big question many people have
been pondering for the last couple milennia: is there really a god that
we mean something to?

this leads to a whole slew of related questions: if there really is a god,
how can god allow horrible things to happen, how can god allow us to get
hurt so badly?  if there really is a god who does look out for us and take
care of us, _how_ does god take care of us?  how does god interfere with
human existence?  if god really does help those who ask for help, _how_
does god help?  if god doesn't interfere by changing people's minds and
feelings, or stopping bullets in midair and the like, why not?

in the first verse, the narrator of hey jesus seems to think god sometimes
works by changing people's feelings, like making her baby want to stay, so
she gets mad in the second verse when her baby doesn't stay.  i love how
she says to god, "you've got the power to make a soul believe in you, and
then... you don't come through."  as if _surely_ god would grant her
request in order to make sure she'd believe in god.

then in the third and fourth verses, interestingly enough, the focus
really isn't on her "baby" anymore--it's on god.  she sings about how she
_doesn't_ know what her life is worth, and how she doesn't want to bug god
"i'm sure you've got a million things to do--but all i was trying to do is
get through to you."  that's what she says she really wants: to understand
if there is a god that thinks she's worth something!  when will she get to
know this??  after her death?  "i don't even know if you're gonna let me
in the place..."  and then my absolute favorite line, "how come i gotta
die to get a chance to talk to you face to face?"

a very good question.  for me, this song is really pondering some of the
deepest questions of human existence--what does our life on earth mean?
if there's a god, why doesn't god let us know for sure that god's there?
and why does life have to be so hard, why wouldn't a perfectly loving god
just make everything easy for us?

emily doesn't lay out her ideas of the answers as i might be tempted to
do, and i think that's wise and really the beauty of this song.  emily
says, "these are good questions, ask them," and leaving you with a feeling
that the narrator's idea of god is a little simplistic, there's gotta be
more to it, you can't help but wrestle with the hard questions.  and as a
christian, i really love this song, because i believe that this wrestling
is a really really good thing...  truth exists even if we can't understand
it yet, right?, so maybe the best thing we can do is at least recognize
our inability to get it all and long for a better understanding.  i guess
to me christianity is a lot more about realizing what you don't know than
claiming to have all the answers. =) recognizing my limited ability to
understand makes faith in a perfectly loving god all the more meaningful...

what a truly beautiful person emily saliers is!  my long-winded $0.02--

scot

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 15:57:58 -0800
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subject:      re: my favorite
x-to:         angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
in-reply-to:  angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> "my favorite" (feb 21,
              10:08am)

on feb 21, 10:08am, angie wrote:
> subject: my favorite
> i think that my most favorite album that they have put out is definately
"1200
> curfews".  i ahve everyone of their releases and for some reason, the way
that
> this particular compilation flows, well lets just say that it was put
together
> in the most awesome manner...and my most favorite two songs from there are
"bac
> k together again" and "midnight train to ga"-- by the way, who is that chick
th
> at is also singing lead with them?  her voice is very mysterious...
>
> angie

that "chick" is gail ann dorsey

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date:         wed, 21 feb 1996 19:03:49 +1100
reply-to:     shannon shevock <slsst2@stulab.sfcpa.edu>
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from:         shannon shevock <slsst2@stulab.sfcpa.edu>
organization: saint francis college
subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.

okay, hey jesus, this is what i think of you..

            i really love this song because i've gone through the
questions emily raises many times before.  in response to scot's
points about "if there is a god, then why are we allowed to suffer?"
or however it was said...i had to put my 2 cents in on this one
because i just turned in a philosophy mid-term today that was about
the problem of evil...  one argument that i read for that class
stated that it's possible that evil isn't real, but just an illusion
we've created from our anthropocentric view of the world.. what we
see as evil is really good, but we are too finite to understand that.
there is more to existance than the human race, or the population of
the earth for that matter..and i'm not just talking about ufo's or
something like that (judge for yourself if they exist or not), i'm
talking about everything god (or allah or the supreme mystery or
whatever you know _it_ as) has created, what we know of, what we
don't know of, and what we are incapable of knowing about...  anyway,
it's all about a grand design, if you get my meaning... but that's all
i really have to say..  but it's just my opinion; i could be wrong.
:)
             btw, whoever came up with this idea was really thinking
that day!  good one! :)   i've been reading the posts and enjoying
this thread.. i just haven't had anything i thought was worth saying
to 1000+ people until now...  thanks for sticking with me..:)

                                  peace and bless you,
                                  shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      re: shawn colvin (minimal igc, some mccc)

hi!

i'm a sc fan, too.

i've got mary chapin carpenter's "come on, come on" disc, and i think that
this is the one that has the song "walking through fire" on it with the ig's
and shawn colvin singing backup for mcc.  ig's and sc also sing backup on
other songs on this disc, too!

it's fun to hear them sing on other peoples' stuff!

ann

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subject:      hey jesus...etc.

          this song is really about the topic i posted  a few weeks
          ago on lesbian/christianity.  i aske myself the same
          questions that emily does all of the time.  "will you even
          let me in the place/how come i gotta die to get a chance to
          talk to you face to face"?

          on another note...i read the gospel according to john after
          my night class the other night.  we were talking about how
          god creates all things, and therefore all things are good.
          the book of john reiterates this concept completely.
          where does sin fit in?  well, this is my take on the matter,
          (hold on this is a long one) god creates all things...all
          things are good...no mistakes.  therefore the only sin we
          have is not seeking spirituality in all things.  for
          example, if we act on our bodily passions...it is okay...
          our only fault being that we don't seek to use that passion
          on a higher level by glorifying god.(i used this example
          because this is the one most commonly disputed among
          fundametalists) i don't think i articulated that very well.
          this would be much better to discuss face to face.

          towanda

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 21 feb 1996 - special is

i'm afraid i missed the info on how to get ig posters.
can someone please let me know how i too can get some
cool ig posters??

i have the three hits poster, but i'm interested in expanding
my collection.

thanks!

holly

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subject:      nigc -- bill of rights

to whoever may read this,
this is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as
many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become
the world's biggest practical joke. the u.s. government has recently
passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. a group of
internet users has now come together to kick back at this oppression,
and have a bit of fun at the same time.
the aim of this exercise is to re-establish the united states as "the
land of the free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and
thought are curtailed. communist russia fell as a result of such
limits being placed upon the minds of the general populus.
on receiving this letter, please pass it on to as many friends or
e-mail lists as you can. we predict that if everybody copies the
letter to 5 other addresses, by february 29th 1996, this letter
should have reached in excess of 2 million people. that's when the
fun begins........
on february 29th, please send the message:

dear mr. president,
do you remember this:

and afterwards enclose the pre-typed copy of the bill of rights. by
sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to either
one huge petition for freedom, or else lead to a crash of the
whitehouse server.send all letters to:
president@whitehouse.gov

remember that solidarity is the key to success
                              the bill of rights

  amendment i

   congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
   prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
   speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
   assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

  amendment ii

   a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
   state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
   infringed.

  amendment iii

   no soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
   the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
   prescribed by law.

  amendment iv

   the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
   and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
   violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
   supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
   place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

  amendment v

   no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
   crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except
   in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when
   in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
   person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
   life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
   witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
   property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
   taken for public use, without just compensation.

  amendment vi

   in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
   speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
   district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
   shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
   the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
   witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
   witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
   defense.

  amendment vii

   in suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
   twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
   fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of
   the united states, than according to the rules of the common law.

  amendment viii

   excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
   cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

  amendment ix

   the enumeration in the constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
   construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

  amendment x

   the powers not delegated to the united states by the constitution, nor
   prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states
   respectively, or to the people.

   -------------------------------------

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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      when i was a squirrel / minimal igc

i saw joan n' dar a couple of weeks ago and got kinda silly afterwords.
got this stuck in my head an i gotta get it outa my system......
so here goes....ahem..

when i was a squirrel
i climbed high up in the trees
hurling insults through the leaves
at the cat "zuzu" who always thought that she could caaaatch me

when i was a squirrel
i crossed roads most every day
looking out for amy ray
'cause she drives really fast and nearly ran over meeee (1,2,3456)

and some days i'd climb so high
i could almost touch the sky
but i'd look down instead
and throw pinecones at claires head
through the ferns that she'd walk through
counting trees in the morning dew

and iiii have hidden some nuts too
when you were just like me
and i had fur like you
and you were a squirrel toooo

(apologies to dar wiliams)
-exit stage right- (top cat)     peace man!      claire (i feel better now)

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subject:      "hey jesus"

the only line from this song that i don't really like is "now i ain't
got nobody/i don't know my life's worth"...yeah, i cried listening to it
singing to it thinking if jon had cried too when we broke up. it seems too
strong a statement i guess. but then you know what people are like when
losing somebody they love.

i'm a christian, but i'm still mad at god i think. "i don't wanna call
on you anymore" is what i'm feeling.

gavin

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reply-to:     ramona quimby <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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subject:      sorry, atten: dani p, shannon s, and danna g

sorry to take up ig space, but i don't have everyone's address...

dani, shannon, and danna-
        i just sent y'all's tapes out today, they should be there soon.
sorry it took so long.  hope you enjoy them and if you have any
questions/concerns feel free to e-mail me at  warra5c0@numen.elon.edu
-mandy

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from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      hey jesus

isn't it wonderfully ironic that today, ash wednesday, is also hey jesus day?
this day marks the beginning of the lenten season in the catholic church
and, as an homage to the sacrifice that jesus made for humanity, catholics
give up something as a sacrifice to jesus. on many levels, i can identify
with the lyrics to this song but today, i'm thinking of how jesus must've
questioned god in the same way that emily did.  if jesus existed, can you
imagine how he must've felt?  he was human but also the embodiment of the
highest power.  he had the privilege of being chosen by god to prove to
people that their faith did not go unnoticed and that it wasn't in vain.  but
even jesus had doubts and couldn't completely understand god's plan for him.
the angst that he felt as a human is beautifully and truthfully represented
by emily in this song.

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from:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
subject:      song a day

thanks to a lot of people out there, it seems as though a song a day is going
to work. i was a little nervous proposing this idea, because i'm new to this
list, and i thought that all this had been discussed already. i'm so happy
that everyone is enthused about it; i know i am.  btw, i've noticed at least
3 other angie's out there, for the record i'm the old one (40 in april) who's
still only 20 mentally, for good or bad.

angie in kc

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subject:      thanks for the info (so songbook)
x-to:         indigo-girls@netspace.org.hi,
              thanks.to.everyone.who.responded.to.my.post.on.where.to.get.the.so@ix.netcom.com

songbook. i'm getting out of the city for a few days so i'm
unsubscibing until i get back. i'm going to be in the woodstock, n.y.
area ; someone's got to have it there!
                            thanks again,
                            karen

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subject:      buffy st marie

dear ben & co.

today you wrote the following:

>i usually don't make these sort of comments but for anyone who is
>thinking about buying a buffy st. marie cd, don't. i bought one
yesterday
>and i couldn't believe that this woman had a reputable folk career.
i'm
>sure she is a lovely women and her melodies are alright but her
voice is
>horrifying. it was so bad i returned it!

i obviously havent listened to whatever album you purchased, but i
did hear bsm sing a song, "my country tis of thee etc etc." which
i thought was excellent.  her voice & lyrics had a haunting quality.

has anyone else heard this song?

melissa

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from:         jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      shawn colvin (sorry, nigc)
in-reply-to:  <199602220146.uaa12197@netspace.org>

hey!  i was browsing around tower records yesterday and came across shawn
colvin, live '88.  it's a live cd (obviously) from april, 1988
(obviously).  anyway, if you are a shawn fan it's a must-have!  it's
excellent.

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from:         kristen jenkins <kristenj@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
subject:      epic promo

hi everybody!  this is a response to all those that requested a copy of
the epic promo.  all i need from you is a 60 minute tape and enough
postage to send it back to you.  the tape will fill up only one side.
i could leave the that other side blank, or if you wish, i could add
some filler...i have access to a lot, and have quite a sizey collection
of stuff that i think you all may dig...(michelle shocked, kristen hall,
suzanne vega, ani difranco, tori amos, joni mitchell...) but my taste
ranges, so if you let me know what you are interested in, i am sure i
could find something to facilitate your needs.  i don't want to get too
complicated, but if i you think i may have something you want, let me know.

i am currently in the process of changing my p.o. box #, so when i get the
new #, i will post it right away...(this should be within a few days)

so make a list, or tell me to leave it blank...and any new requests are
welcome...

take care,

kristen :^)

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      so what day is today????

this song-a-day is soooooo coooool...i just love it, but what's
todays song...even though it is today, can i still comment on stuff
from yesterday?!!

i was listening to strange fire last night and tried to get a deeper
understanding of my automatic feelings of sadness whenever i listen
to the song left me a fool (yeah, i know i'm about 3 days late, but
oh well).  i read the words and they seemed to come from my friend,
who i hurt real bad last year.  everything in the song is how i
imagine she feels.  its kind of difficult to explain, and i wrote to
her today to see if she sees the words as a representation of how she
feels, or whether i'm just imagining it.  so many of ig's songs
relate to being hurt...when i listen to their music, its like my friend
is talking to me and telling me how she feels.  over the last year,
with help from the ig's, i've been able to face up to the *big*
mistakes that i've made, realise that anyone who is in love and is
loved has both a power and a duty to acknowledge this power and be
aware of how destructive that power is if not treated with care...it's
scarey when you begin to realise how much you can affect someone through
the simplest of things.  sorry...i'm rambling again.  anyway, i was
also thinking about hey jesus...i'm not altogether sure about this
god-thing...i was brought up as a christian...have been all my life
until i really got into it 3-4 years ago...really got me thinking and
now i'm not so sure.  there are too many condemnations...i really
don't understand how g & l's fit into it...and until i do, i guess my
'faith' will continue to lie in the sun...the source of our
energy...i'm still searching though...

one last thing (i promise!)...the cd-booklet thingy for strange fire
has a picture of a load of people sitting in a diner-type place (it's
overleaf from the cover).  what and where is this?  i don't see
anything that i recognise...

talk to y'all later

love helene

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subject:      gail/buffy/shawn/amy&em

hi folks,

here's some stuff on some wonderful women who've been mentioned recently:

gail anne dorsey:
just saw her on tv on tuesday night performing at the brit award ceremony
with david bowie.  she sings freddie mecury's part in under pressure, as
well as playing bass  - all i can say on that is wow!  it really pissed me
off that they didn't even introduce her by name, and she actually gets to
sing in it more than bowie! as well as touring with him recently she's been
a renowned session bass player for years.  also, she had her own solo album
out in the mid-eighties called ' the corporate world' -  i picked it up in a
bargain bin in my local record shop, but i'm sorry to say i don't recommend it!

buffy st. marie:
i've only heard an album of hers from about 1992 - i think she tried to make
a commercial comeback by going for the dusty springfield meets pet shop boys
type of sound - lots of synths and reverb.  i don't listen to it much
although a couple of tracks - 'fallen angel' and 'the big ones get away'
were okay.

shawn colvin:
yeah!!  she's great!!  i heartily recommend all of her albums - firstly a
self-titled one, then fat city, and cover girl, and she's really great live
- dead funny too!  wonderful guitar technique and fantastic lyrics. btw, she
sang backup for suzanne vega on 'luka'  and suzanne returns the favour by
guesting on a track on shawn's first album.  cover girl features a really
cool dylan cover - 'you're gonna make me lonesome when you go.'    it's
interesting that round about the same time nanci griffith recorded 'boots of
spanish leather', joan baez recorded 'don't think twice it's alright ' and
we now have ig's 'tangled up in blue'  (i wonder if they all had a little
bet going that they'd all do a dylan cover on their
the album also has a version of tom waits ol' 55 - a track that sarah
mclachlan recorded for the bots soundtrack.

i think it's really cool the way a lot of these artists are always guesting
on each others albums and live shows. looking at the rop liner the other day
i saw that a&e thank mary cc for some guitar tunings.  also i heard
somewhere that nanci, mary cc and amy & em have performed somewhere under
the name four voices.  does anyone have any info on this, or better still a
recording?

i tried to do a 'family tree' diagram once for all the musicians i like -
needless to say it got pretty confusing - it would make a really good
webpage though if anyone's interested.  like - how do you link ig with the
artist formerly known as prince??? answers on a postcard please....

phew, that was another long one!

*************
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subject:      quotes for speeches

hi all -

        thanks to everone wishing me well for the wedding. 9 days to go.
i was tidying up the speech last night and tried fitting some room for an
ig quote or two - any ideas. the obvious was the best thing you've ever
done for me, is to help me take mylife less seriously, it's only life
after all. - or the hardest to learn is the least complicated.

        i used the latter in a quote for my university disertation. i
know these two are really obvious but the brain really wasn't working too
well last night.

cheers - jules

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>also i heard somewhere that nanci, mary cc and amy & em have performed
>somewhere under the name four voices.  does anyone have any info on this, or
>better still a recording?

i think that was an early newport folk festival thing.  i have it at home.  e-
mail me if you want a copy.

jude :)

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subject:      re: mcc/nanci/roseanne cash

you know there was a concert shown on tv ages back with nanci, mcc
and roseanne cash...the 3 of them sat on a stage, a guitar each and
took it in turns to play songs.  it was absolutely brilliant...it was
at a time when my music tastes were turning a very big corner...for
the better i must say.  and to see these 3 amazing women together,
making such beautiful, expressive music...i just fell in love...and
now 4 or 5 years later, i'm still totally hooked and totally in love
with these wonderful people and their music.  sometimes, you just
gotta thank the universe for such happenings.
see you later
love helene

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subject:      jazz fest 5/2

howdy y'all

so i was riding the bus home last night, thinking about how we could
all find each other at jazz fest when an idea came to me. this idea
is so obvious i am certain someone already suggested it, but i just
forgot.

what would you all think of everyone making t-shirts that say
something like   a+e = ig   on the front and our names or internicks
on the back??

my thinking is that if we all wore shirts like this on thursday may 2
at jazz fest we would be able to spot each other, not only at the ig
show but throughout the day at jazz fest. i think this would be
really kewl. spotting someone in the jazz fest crowd with an a+e = ig
t shirt would be like this unity thing, well to me anyhow.

so what do y'all think???

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
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'
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subject:      igs in los angeles on 3/2

i'm coming out of my lurker mode to remind those ig fans on the west
coast of "women's night xiii" on saturday, march 2. a&e will be honored
along with linda villarosa (exec. editor - essence magazine). it's being
held at the beverly hilton hotel, beverly hills.

there's a 1/2-page ad in the march 5 issue of "the advocate" for the
event on page 56.

if anyone is interested in going, the ad has two phone numbers for
general information: (818)377-3909 or (818)783-6112.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      nigc - what country are we in???

a friend of mine e-mailed me this. thought some of you might find
this as frustratingly idiotic as i did.


> thursday february 22 4:13 am est
>
> salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
>
> salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
> spokeswoman said on wednesday.
>
> after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> compuses.
>
> the move is designed to prevent gay and lesbian groups from meeting
> with school sanctioning.
>
> ''the immediate effect of the decision is that there will be no
> non-curricular clubs started this year,'' said sherri clark, school
> board spokeswoman.
>
> several students from one high school petitioned the utah attorney
> general in december for approval to form a gay, lesbian and bisexual
> club on campus.
>
> the attorney general's office approved the request, but the issue
> led to outcries from parents and politicians, including utah gov.
> mike leavitt and sen. orrin hatch.
>
> the mormon church, which claims a majority of the state's population
> as members has been mute on the issue. ''we have long-standing
> policies on chastity and morality, but the church has not had coment
> on the issue of gay and lesbian clubs in schools,'' said don
> lefevre, spokesman for the church of jesus christ of latter-day
> saints.
>
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peace

dan perkins

"this time... don't assume anything"
                                amy ray

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subject:      get together day!

this song always makes me smile!

i first heard the song in the mid-eighties when i went thru' a phase of
'discovering' my folk roots - i got heavily into joni mitchell, dylan, csn&y
and felt really cheated that i'd been born a generation too late for
woodstock!  they showed a couple of old festival on tv - one was a '68 or
'69 concert at big sur, and the other was woodstock of course, and these
fascinated me. funnily enough the couple of songs that really stood out for
me were cs&n's get together and neil young's down by the river.  so, the
original gt always makes me think of heat and mud and hippy dippy doo dah.
the ig's version has a totally different feel to it - much more wintery -
not sure why, just all cuddly and cosy.   lurve em's guitar solo - think its
'cos you get so used to her acoustic lead sound that when she does something
electric with some effects behind it, it sticks in your mind - that solo
just soars!

also surprised one day to hear the ig's version pop up behind one of those
lump-in-the-throat-pass-me-a-bucket moments in the wonder years...

anyway, in honour of get together day i'm really going to try really hard to
'smile on my brother' - and sisters - at work today...

c'mon people now....

*************
seffy
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seffy

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subject:      a stupid tangent

hi ya'll!

in reading the messages in the list, i seem to be having an "out of body"
experience (not  literally -- though that might be interesting too)!  i was
somewhat surprised to find out how much i had in common w/ the interests of this
group besides just ig (fgt, me, mcc, etc.).

my sister suggested that perhaps we were all made up of similar character.  you
know, some kind of "separated at birth" type of thing or that perhaps we were
some strange race of people who were implanted throughout the world so that we
could spread our ig enthusiasm w/ those who somehow lack it.  i don't think my
mother would agree w/ the former idea and i don't quite agree w/ the later.
anyone have ideas about our apparent similarities?

just curious,

tamara

*****     "watch the wizard behind the curtain."   emily s.    *****

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subject:      re: gail/buffy/shawn/amy&em (four voices)

>i saw that a&e thank mary cc for some guitar tunings.  also i heard
>somewhere that nanci, mary cc and amy & em have performed somewhere under
>the name four voices.  does anyone have any info on this, or better still a
>recording?
>

the four performed on a broadcast of "austin city limits" a few years ago.
(it also had the woman who wrote the "wind beneath my wings" or some such
song.)
i don't know about other occasions where they sang together.

i taped "austin city limits" but the quality was so bad i never watch it.
if anyone has it and would like to offer a trade for something in my
limited collection...

eileen

p.s. just listened to nanci griffith's "flyer" album last night.  there's
another place where ig lend their vocals.  can we add that to the musical
tree?

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              feb 22, 96 08:43:06 am

hey y'all,

i got a small chuckle out of this when i saw it on the tv news this
morning.  nearly choked on my bran flakes.  you'll see why in a
minute.

> > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
> >
> > salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
    ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
remember this part, it comes up later.

> > spokeswoman said on wednesday.
> >
> > after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> > board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> > environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> > compuses.

i wouldn't get too worked up about this, since the decision will
certainly be reversed once they realize they outlawed the football
team as well.  after all, team sports are non-curricular.  and no
self-respecting school district will give up its sacred football team.

although, with the (surprising) support mr. buchanan is getting, we
may well have to defend our civil liberties against more serious
assults in the near future.  forewarned is forearmed.

there really is only one way to make sure things like this don't
happen again.  vote.  get involved.  it's your country, too.

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helen

        you dont have this show on video / audio by any chance ?

jules

on thu, 22 feb 1996, helene burningham wrote:

> you know there was a concert shown on tv ages back with nanci, mcc
> and roseanne cash...the 3 of them sat on a stage, a guitar each and
> took it in turns to play songs.  it was absolutely brilliant...it was

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subject:      buffy & bob

<<i usually don't make these sort of comments but for anyone who is
thinking about buying a buffy st. marie cd, don't. i bought one
yesterday
and i couldn't believe that this woman had a reputable folk career.
i'm
sure she is a lovely women and her melodies are alright but her voice
is
horrifying. it was so bad i returned it!
sorry to seem like a jerk but i just had to give out my warning.
ben>>

you know, i've heard this guy bob dylan on the radio and he can't
sing either


<smile>

-lorie

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in-reply-to:  <960222153656_103660.214_jhq78-1@compuserve.com> from "tamara l.
              mizell" at feb 22, 96 10:36:56 am

hey y'all,

here i am, taking a break from my research, reading the morning's ig
traffic, listening to the one tolerable radio station left in my
market (rock 101 for the curious, they play some me on occasion), when
this comes by...

> hi ya'll!
>
> in reading the messages in the list, i seem to be having an "out of body"
> experience (not  literally -- though that might be interesting too)!  i was
> somewhat surprised to find out how much i had in common w/ the interests of
> this group besides just ig (fgt, me, mcc, etc.).

...and the radio started playing golden earring's "twilight zone".
makes you wonder, doesn't it?

> my sister suggested that perhaps we were all made up of similar character.

i think it's a partial coincidence.  people who like one thing tend to
like related things as well.  since we're all rabid ig fans (and you'd
have to be to read all this mail!) it makes sense that we all like
other, related artists as well.  perhaps the coincidence is that so
many people from such different backgrounds like ig.

but i think fgt is a hard movie *not* to like.  everyone i know cheers
when towanda the avenger! slams her car into the other car in the
winn-dixie parking lot.

on a completely random and unrelated note, for those of you who have
been patiently waiting for pictures of ginger the amazing dancing (and
ig-loving!) wonder dog to appear on my web page, they should be
scanned in tomorrow or monday.  unfortunately, the quicktime movies of
her doing the treat dance, the welcome-home dance, and the now-famous
"there's another dog in my yard!" dance had to be scrapped because of
disk-space limitations.  sorry.

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on 22 feb 96 at 15:52, julian knopf wrote:

> helen
>
>         you dont have this show on video / audio by any chance ?
>
> jules
>
> on thu, 22 feb 1996, helene burningham wrote:
>
> > you know there was a concert shown on tv ages back with nanci, mcc
> > and roseanne cash...the 3 of them sat on a stage, a guitar each and
> > took it in turns to play songs.  it was absolutely brilliant...it was

i have never seen this one before. however, amy and emily did appear
on austin city limits. nanci griffith hosted a songwriters circle
with woman songwriters. included nanci, mcc, liz gold, amy and emily.
amy did an early version of jonas & ezekial. emily did fare thee
well. then at the end everyone sang this rolling stones song "no
expectations". very cool.


peace

dan perkins
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tour guide to the obvious
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                                  -david st. hubins
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                                   -nigel tufnel

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subject:      austin city limits

julie gold is the one who was on acl w/ ig, mcc, and nanci.  she's the
"wind beneath my wings woman."  i remember this b/c when i tell people my
name occasionally someone says "hey are you that woman who wrote wind
beneath my wings"  and i reply "um, _no_."  duh.  anyway....
   -julie

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y'know-they did this at my high school too.  i think there it was more to
keep a group from having a bible study on campus though.  you brought up
a good point though about the football team.  my high school was so
focused on its football team.  it was really quite unfortunate.  i wonder
if anyone at my high school ever complained about the football team not
being associated with the curriculum.  probably not.  i went to high
school with a bunch of robots.
amanda

on thu, 22 feb 1996 gkemp@ces.clemson.edu wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
> i got a small chuckle out of this when i saw it on the tv news this
> morning.  nearly choked on my bran flakes.  you'll see why in a
> minute.
>
> > > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
> > >
> > > salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> > > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> > > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
>     ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
> remember this part, it comes up later.
>
> > > spokeswoman said on wednesday.
> > >
> > > after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> > > board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> > > environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> > > compuses.
>
> i wouldn't get too worked up about this, since the decision will
> certainly be reversed once they realize they outlawed the football
> team as well.  after all, team sports are non-curricular.  and no
> self-respecting school district will give up its sacred football team.
>
> although, with the (surprising) support mr. buchanan is getting, we
> may well have to defend our civil liberties against more serious
> assults in the near future.  forewarned is forearmed.
>
> there really is only one way to make sure things like this don't
> happen again.  vote.  get involved.  it's your country, too.
>
> --
>
> greg "straight but not narrow" kemp
> gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
> http://www.ces.clemson.edu/~gkemp/
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on thu, 22 feb 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:

> julie gold is the one who was on acl w/ ig, mcc, and nanci.  she's the
> "wind beneath my wings woman."  i remember this b/c when i tell people my
> name occasionally someone says "hey are you that woman who wrote wind
> beneath my wings"  and i reply "um, _no_."  duh.  anyway....

well i didn't know that, but she also wrote "from a distance" for nanci
griffith (which was covered by kathy mattea, i think, and then bette midler).
who sung wind beneath my wings and what else did she write?

mat

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back in 1971 when most of you were just twinkles in your parents eyes, i was
part of a church folk group. this song was one of our staples, along with day
by day, where have all the flowers gone, let there be peace on earth, and
myriad others. some stood the test of time better than others. i think that
the reason this song has, even if some of the lyrics are awkward, is because
of the sentiment behind it. i just wish that more people would practice what
they preach (or in this case, sing).
  i don't go to church anymore - i don't agree with a lot of what's going on
these days in the catholic church. i was wondering if anyone else sings in
folk groups, and if so, what songs are you singing?  "let it be me" would be
a good choice, don't you think? it expresses a lot of the same ideas in get
together.


angie in kc

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organization: prifysgol cymru - aberystwyth - university of wales
subject:      re: buffy & bob
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on thu, 22 feb 1996, lorie driscoll wrote:

> <<i usually don't make these sort of comments but for anyone who is
> thinking about buying a buffy st. marie cd, don't. i bought one
> yesterday
> and i couldn't believe that this woman had a reputable folk career.
> i'm
> sure she is a lovely women and her melodies are alright but her voice
> is
> horrifying. it was so bad i returned it!
> sorry to seem like a jerk but i just had to give out my warning.
> ben>>
>
> you know, i've heard this guy bob dylan on the radio and he can't
> sing either

well have you heard leonard cohen?   sure he's written some great songs
but his singing is *much* worse than dylan's any day.   at least dylan
doesn't sing flat!   if i was put in room 101 i would expect to have to
sit through several renditions of "lady midnight" with cohen droning
"you've wuuuhhhn me, you've wuuuuhhhhn me, my lord ..."   it's absolutely
painful to listen to.   and his guitar playing isn't much cop either.

mat

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hi!

the concert that helene is talking about is the bob dylan anniv. special that
was shown on public tv here in the states a couple of years ago.  it's also
available in video stores.  i saw some at tower records the other day.

i saw joan baez in concert a couple of weeks ago, and during the show she
referred to four voices as herself, indigo girls and mary chapin carpenter
and talked about the shows they've done at the newport folk festival in the
past.  she also talked about how a & e showed up at her set at newport last
year to check out her version of welcome me, and how funny it was to watch a
thousand heads turn their way while "the matriarch was on stage."  :)

it was a great story.  great show, too!


ann

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subject:      get together nightmare

i really love this ig song, but it certainly has some bad memories for
me! three of my friends and myself were supposed to sing it for our high
school graduation ceremony. it was an extremely emotional time for the
four of us, especially because a close friend of ours had just been
killed by a drunk driver (she was going to be salutatorian) two weeks
earlier. the lines "some may come and some may go.. we will surely pass..
when the one that left us here.. returns for us at last.. we are but a
moment's sunlight fading in the grass" brought us to the point of tears
nearly every time. i listened to ig's version over and over again
perfecting the harmony in my head and feeling the power they infused into
the song. anyway, grad came and the sound people screwed up, so we were
all standing there in front of thousands of people, and we couldn't hear
the music that was being played too slow anyway!! definitely one of the
most embarrassing moments of my life. just struggled through it and
merged back into the crowd. that was only last june so the memory still
makes me wince.  i know this is not a deep interpretation or anything,
but i think a & e would have gotten a kick out of watching us murder that
song :)

em'ly

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oops once again i'm totally wrong *meek smile* even as i was typing
something didn't sound right.  yeah, it was "from a distance" not "wind
beneath my wings."  ahem. i'm gonna go away for a little while...
   -julie

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                                -emerson

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on thu, 22 feb 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> on thu, 22 feb 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:
>
> > julie gold is the one who was on acl w/ ig, mcc, and nanci.  she's the
> > "wind beneath my wings woman."  i remember this b/c when i tell people my
> > name occasionally someone says "hey are you that woman who wrote wind
> > beneath my wings"  and i reply "um, _no_."  duh.  anyway....
>
> well i didn't know that, but she also wrote "from a distance" for nanci
> griffith (which was covered by kathy mattea, i think, and then bette midler).
> who sung wind beneath my wings and what else did she write?
>
> mat
>
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subject:      out of order but...

um, i know that, if we go in order, today should be "get together" day, and
that's groovy, love the cover a&e did, i personally think it's better than
the original...however, i have one quick question that's probably been
asked before, but if someone could humor me i would really appreciate it.
what is "cedar tree" all about anyway?  i really love the song and it's
musicality and intrigue and all, but i think i would be able to appreciate
it much more if i knew what the hell was going on.  help?  thanks.

january simpson
as a child i was an imaginary playmate...
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hey, does anyone have the chords for this song?

thanks in advance!

miranda

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subject:      get together day

well, i have a bunch o videos that i took during my junior and senior
years in high school (mother got a video camera, but i was the one that
used it the most, being the shutterbug that i am)
anyway, i was going to go to the television station or my old
communication graphics class and make a video of nothing but the
best clips and the funniest stuff that happened those last two years
get together was going to be one of the songs i was going to record
in the background because it is the perfect song to describe me and
my little circle of friends....i love them all...i wish everyone
had friends like mine :)
two of them just got married too....:)
anyway...just my little 2 cents....
sal-ray:)
oh! i'm also planning a one year graduation reunion to show this tape...
i don't want to wait ten more years :)
hehehehehe
y'all have a great day!

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          i had the privilege to see joan baez and dar williams at the
          palace theatre in louisville last night and i had some
          thoughts to share.  i want to start by saying that these are
          some of the most talented women singer songwriters in the
          business.  dar williams has a wonderfully smooth and
          wide-ranging voice and joan baez's voice is still as
          beautiful as ever.  dar opened the show with a few songs
          from both of her albums.  personal highlights include
          pompeii and febuary (but i am a sucker for a soft ballad).
          her encore of the pointless yet poignant crisis of a co-ed,
          ended her set on a humorous, yet somewhat fitting note.
          joan played for a little under an hour and a half.  in this
          time however she spanned almost 30 years of music.  her set
          included diamonds and rust, the lily of the west, and many
          songs i, not being the most schooled jb fan, did not
          recognize.  her version of you're aging well" with dar
          willaims was enough to make me never stop listening to
          that song, it was sheer beauty.  she played two encores,
          playing an impromptu version of willie nelson's on the road
          again, and leading a sing-along of amazing grace (which was
          in the strangest key, my friend and i had to sing falsetto
          for the entire song, ouch!).
          now for my rant.  is it just
          louisville, or are all audiences in small concert halls
          rude?  i mean whenever she would stop before a song to
          position a capo or tune-up it was like i was at a big party
          where someone happened to have a guitar and was taking
          requests.  i think the pinnacle of the night was when
          someone yelled "freebird." i hated that on the uptown lounge
          video and i hate it now, it is plain rude.  she handled it
          with the utmost elegance, of course, she is joan baez after
          all.  i think it actually bothered me more it did her, but
          she was visibly annoyed once.  i wanted to stand up and
          scream my allegiance, but out of courtesy i did not.
          needless to say i am going through a certain concert
          withdrawal today, i am just looking forward to summer tours,
          coming soon.

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hi all,

i was listening to the boot b band/tuesday's children (thanks m.) and
i started trying to remember who performed the original versions of
these songs. some i couldn't remember.

anyone know who did
"junkies lament"?
"wysteria"   ..... seams like heart, but i am not certain.


i can't recall what other songs are on this boot.

does anyone have like a comprehensive list of these songs and the
original performers??

thanks,

peace

dan perkins
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on 22 feb 96 at 12:52, rsimpson wrote:

>           i had the privilege to see joan baez and dar
>          williams...<snip>

>           now for my rant.  is it just
>           louisville, or are all audiences in small concert halls
>           rude?  i mean whenever she would stop before a song to
>           position a capo or tune-up it was like i was at a big party
>           where someone happened to have a guitar and was taking
>           requests.  i think the pinnacle of the night was when
>           someone yelled "freebird." i hated that on the uptown lounge
>           video and i hate it now, it is plain rude.  she handled it
>           with the utmost elegance, of course, she is joan baez after
>           all.  i think it actually bothered me more it did her, but
>           she was visibly annoyed once.  i wanted to stand up and
>           scream my allegiance, but out of courtesy i did not.
>           needless to say i am going through a certain concert
>           withdrawal today, i am just looking forward to summer tours,
>           coming soon.
>

well, i can tell you this. often times i see the same response from
crowds in austin. yelling at the performer(s), talking, etc.

i am a musician myself. the last band i played with figured out a
fun (for us anyhow) way to deal with this. at almost every gig we
played we would get someone yelling for a song (freebird! stairway!).
weird since we almost exclusively performed original music. so what
we did was write a very stupid, vapid, lame ass, country western song
(verses included: i'm a great big cowboy, and i wear a big hat, yea i
am a great big cowboy and i wear a big hat. and i  came into town,
riding a great big cat).

and anytime someone would yell out a request we would say " ok. you want
to hear freebird, here ya go" and we would luanch into our stupid cowboy song.

entertained the hello out of the band, confused the hell out of most of the
audience. and almost always we would cease getting requests.

peace

dan perkins
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hi, y'all.

being from utah, knowing folks in the salt lake city school district,
knowing folks who know folks in the gay/straight alliance, being queer
and somewhat involved, i thought i would respond to this thread.

> > > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
> > >
> > > salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> > > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> > > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
>     ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
> remember this part, it comes up later.
>
> > > after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> > > board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> > > environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> > > compuses.
>
> i wouldn't get too worked up about this, since the decision will
> certainly be reversed once they realize they outlawed the football
> team as well.  after all, team sports are non-curricular.  and no
> self-respecting school district will give up its sacred football team.

well, actually, no.  what the deal is is that now slc school district has
to go through and actually decide what "curriculum related" means, and as
i'm sure you may realize, the football team will certainly be designated
as "curriculum related."  the only thing that can keep the schoolboard
from designating any given club "curriculum related" or "non-curriculum
related" is a lawsuit.  certain folks in the slc gay community are
thinking of suing for the gay/straight alliance to be designated
curriculum based on the fact that it may deal with health issues, sexual
health issues, mental health issues and what-not.  football has already
been designated to relate to the physical education programs in high
schools. the clubs which are most at risk are ethnic clubs, hobby related
clubs (e.g. star wars, the simpsons, skiing, etc) but don't kid
yourselves, kids.  the football teams are not at risk.

folks are a little bothered, though, by the absence of things like ethnic
clubs and ski clubs and there is much demand for a re-vote from the
school board.  don't give up hope yet!

> > there really is only
one way to make sure things like
this don't > happen again.  vote.  get involved.  it's your country, too.
>

indeed!!

yours,
chris ii

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> um, i know that, if we go in order, today should
> be "get together" day....however, i have one quick
> question that's probably been asked before, but if
> someone could humor me i would really appreciate it.
> what is "cedar tree" all about anyway?

i'm sorry but we can't discuss this
until 4/1/96.  please ask again in
five and a half weeks!

i-girl

ps, i have the cleanest bathtub in chicago.

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me again, i just can't leave this alone!


on thu, 22 feb 1996, amanda r bakken wrote:

> y'know-they did this at my high school too.  i think there it was more to
> keep a group from having a bible study on campus though.  you brought up
> a good point though about the football team.  my high school was so
> focused on its football team.  it was really quite unfortunate.  i wonder
> if anyone at my high school ever complained about the football team not
> being associated with the curriculum.  probably not.  i went to high
> school with a bunch of robots.
> amanda
>
actually, the funny thing is that orrin hatch, r-utah was the one who
pushed the federal act (can't remember the name now) through congress
that allowed bible clubs and what-not based on the free-speech
amendment.  he's been absolutely silent on the gay-club issue, since it's
really his own damn fault it ever came up in the first place.

another thing i wanted to say is that this may seem small potatoes for
those of you not living here, like it's just a high school and what not,
but it's really rocking the whole state.  nobody can stop talking about
it.  everyone here is really bothered.  i swear it's as big as the
earthquake's gonna be.  whoda thought three high school students could be
so threatening!

yours,
chris ii

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subject:      re: nicg - what country are we in???

hi all,

being an ex-utah'n i also felt the need to respond to this mail. when i was
in high school, one had to remain very closeted, i am at least glad to see
gay and lesbian issues being discussed and kids being able to be out in
school, (not that it makes it any easier). in utah, many people are afraid
of sexuality in general, so when it comes to issues where sexuality is
involved they can't overcome their own fears and feelings to get to the
facts. should be interesting to see how things turn out.
my dad and i don't dicuss it at all, because he can't beyond the fact that i
am having sex...and with another woman. anyway, fight on, get out and
vote!!! be a voice that is heard.

learn to respect what we can't understand   - a. ray

peace
best regards,

lisa

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        dan perkins quoted a reuters news article:

salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools......
> > after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> > board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> > environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> > compuses.

         greg perkins responded:

>i wouldn't get too worked up about this, since the decision will
>certainly be reversed once they realize they outlawed the football
>team as well.  after all, team sports are non-curricular.  and no
>self-respecting school district will give up its sacred football team.

      unfortunately, i think reuters used the wrong word here. they aren't
banning non-curricular activities, which would include sports teams and
student council. they are banning groups that aren't school-sponsored or
school-funded.the chess club is just a group of students that use school
property to meet. the school doesn't officially sponsor or fund them.
and now, they will be banned from meeting on school property. as would
a lesbigay group, since obviously the school wouldn't fund or sponsor
them.

         then greg wrote:

>although, with the (surprising) support mr. buchanan is getting, we
>may well have to defend our civil liberties against more serious
>assaults in the near future.  forewarned is forearmed.

>there really is only one way to make sure things like this don't
>happen again.  vote.  get involved.  it's your country, too.

          i whole-heartedly agree.

                                                           dave ridder

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from:         shannon g donovan <sdonovan@cas.umass.edu>
subject:      four voices

hi!
        i don't know about nanci, but a & e, mcc, and joan baez have
performed together at the newport folk festival under the name "four voices".
a recording of that would be really great to have. does anyone out there
have any newport boots? are there any other rhode islanders out there?
        i don't suppose that a & e have ever done any tunes with
laura love....   i think that would be a really fun combo... anyway....
        smile!
                dundun

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subject:      fan tour 2/22/96

hello all.  your friendly fan toumeister has new changes to report.  the
hotel i had reserved the rooms in new orleans threw me a curve, but i think
we are still in business if y'all are still interested.  the following is all
the information you need to decide if you want to participate in this group
gathering.

cost: $132 per room per night

the hotel received new group rates from their corporate office and since no
contract had been signed, the group sales manager could not honor the
previous rate.  this rate is for up to four people.  thus, if you don't mind
sharing with three other people, the cost is only:

$33 per person per night

since i had people asking me if they could get rooms on the 1st, 2nd, and 5th
as well as the 3rd and 4th, i reserved 50 rooms for all five nights may 1-5.
you can get a room for any or all of these nights as long as there is
availability.

to purchase a space or an entire room you need to send me payment in full
using a check or money order made out to my name to the following address:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

if you have already sent me payment based on the costs that i had previously
posted, i will hold a space for you and contact you about sending additional
monies to cover the change in price.  i am sorry for any inconvenience that
this might cause anyone.

i am still chartering a bus to take as many people as are interested to the
concert and back to the hotel.  the cost of the bus is still $20 per person
round trip and i forsee no reason that this rate will change.

there is one last curve the hotel threw me.  they changed the due date for
the money to be received.  i need to get them their money by march 22, so i
need to have all the money by march 8.  one concession they made was that
this rate would not be changed if all 50 rooms were not booked.  thus, you do
not need to worry about having enough people participate.  once i receive
your money, you have a room or a space in a room, as long as there is still
space available.

one last thing.  if anyone here is on any other listservs or knows of any
listservs or newsgroups that would access people who might be interested in
participating in this, if you could forward this message and any future
messages about this project to them, i would greatly appreciate it.  if it is
easier, you can just post the following:

cheap rooms for ig fans or anyone going to the new orleans jazz festival

50 rooms reserved at la quinta inn-airport

dates:  may 1-5  (you can reserve a room for any or all of these nights)

cost:   $132 per room per night or $33 per person per night (tax included)

i am also chartering a bus to take fans to the 5/4 ig show and back to the
hotel - cost is $20 per person.

send payment in full by check or money order to:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

for more info:

call (908)418-0721 or
e-mail indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu

all payments must be received by march 8, 1996

anyone who posts this message to a listserv or newsgroup for me will get a
free beer or a big, sloppy kiss on the lips (take your pick) from me when we
are down in new orleans.  thanks for any and all help and support.  sorry for
the typically long and drawn out message.  talk to y'all soon.

let it grow

bert

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subject:      re: what do we have in common?

hi!
        i'm pretty new to the list, so i've been laying low until now.
anyway, i'm writing in response to tamara's question about why we are
similar in many ways. here are my thoughts on the matter (in case
_anyone_ is interested...):
        first of all, we all have great taste in music.
        second, we all like getting e-mail and squandering countless
hours sorting through all these messages.
        third, and most important, is that we are people who can
close there eyes and yet still see clearly... close our ears and still
hear clearly (although we might not like some of the voices we here, we
still here their messages- i think dylan needs voice lessons too)... we are
people who caste aside all those misleading earthly categories, and see
people for who they are based on what is in their hearts.....
        okay i'll stop there. this is getting too sappy.
        anyway......

        be well,
        dundun

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subject:      something about freedom of speech

from:   hal::soc_kmn      22-feb-1996 11:45:45.33
to:     und_tlf
cc:
subj:   a little sumpin.. :)

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hi everybody, i got this from a friend of mine, thought you guys might be
interested in it, since it effects just about anyone with so much as an
e-mail account.  to those of you that i haven't spoken to in awhile, hi!
how's it goin? well, enough bullshit, hope you enjoy this.

chris lazor

----------forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 21 feb 1996 01:11:18 -0700 (mst)
from: jason barclay cardoza <jbc@dana.ucc.nau.edu>
to: "christopher j. lazor" <cjl2@dana.ucc.nau.edu>,
    vincent w davis <vwd2@dana.ucc.nau.edu>,
    "bret m. huggard" <bmh@dana.ucc.nau.edu>, jsa1@a1.ucc.nau.edu,
    "alex n. beltran" <anb2@dana.ucc.nau.edu>,
    "omar m. duarte" <omd@dana.ucc.nau.edu>, rmurtlan@mines.colorado.edu
subject: freedom of speech... (fwd)

  i thought some of you might be interested in this.  have fun with it or
delete it however the obvious choice sounds more interesting.
j.

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 20 feb 1996 21:16:21 -0700 (mst)
from: greg <geh@dana.ucc.nau.edu>
to: cameron johnson <crj@dana.ucc.nau.edu>,
    jason barclay cardoza <jbc@dana.ucc.nau.edu>
subject: freedom of speech...

        i received this from a friend of mine and thought that i would
pass in on to you guys. if you know of anyone else that you can pass it
on to, please do...

                                                greg

---------- forwarded message begins here ----------

to whoever may read this,
this is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as
many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become
the world's biggest practical joke. the u.s. government has recently
passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. a group of
internet users has now come together to kick back at this oppression,
and have a bit of fun at the same time.
the aim of this exercise is to re-establish the united states as "the
land of the free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and
thought are curtailed.
on receiving this letter, please pass it on to as many friends or
e-mail lists as you can. we predict that if everybody copies the
letter to 5 other addresses, by february 29th 1996, this letter
should have reached in excess of 2 million people. that's when the
fun begins........


on february 29th, please send the message:

    dear mr. president,
    do you remember this:

and afterwards enclose the pre-typed copy of the bill of rights. by
sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to either
one huge petition for freedom, or else lead to a crash of the
whitehouse server.send all letters to:

    ___president@whitehouse.gov___

remember that solidarity is the key to success
                              the bill of rights

  amendment i
   congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
   prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
   speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
   assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

  amendment ii
   a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
   state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
   infringed.

  amendment iii
   no soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
   the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
   prescribed by law.

  amendment iv
   the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
   and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
   violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
   supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
   place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

  amendment v
   no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
   crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except
   in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when
   in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
   person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
   life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
   witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
   property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
   taken for public use, without just compensation.

amendment vi
   in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
   speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
   district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
   shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
   the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
   witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
   witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
   defense.

  amendment vii
   in suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
   twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
   fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of
   the united states, than according to the rules of the common law.

  amendment viii
   excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
   cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

  amendment ix
   the enumeration in the constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
   construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

  amendment x
   the powers not delegated to the united states by the constitution, nor
   prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states
   respectively, or to the people.

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on thu, 22 feb 1996, tracy l. fears wrote:

<chain-letter garbage, masses of headers and reprint of amendments to us
constitution which you can get in any reasonable history book snipped>

can we please have no more chain letters sent to this list?   there seems
to be a real craze for these stupid letters at the moment and "make money
quick" spams are all over the newsgroups as well.   stuff sent from
outside can't really be helped, but regulars should know better.   the
anti-censorship bill stuff was probably just a gimmick, just like the
aids research trash in the last chain-letter we got.   stop it!!!!!

mat

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subject:      what's so amazing about really deep thoughts?

in a message dated 96-02-22 15:48:14 est, iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu (i.
girl) writes:

>i'm sorry but we can't discuss this
>until 4/1/96.  please ask again in
>five and a half weeks!

wow.  ig content, housekeeping, april fool's day (and you say, how
appropriate), and arithmetic, all in one pint-sized post!  ;)

          danna

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subject:      re: quotes for speeches

in a message dated 96-02-22 06:08:19 est, you write:

>i was tidying up the speech last night and tried fitting some room for an
>ig quote or two - any ideas.

ideas, yes -- good ones, maybe.  ;)
"i stand where you stood
i stand for bad or good
and i am green
and you are wood
the best, the best we ever had"  (only "we've" ever had would make it present
tense and more "upbeat," yes?)

or anything from "power of two"

". . . offered up a crystal ball; where there's now one, there will be two"
("love will come to you")

"you said the world was magic/i was wide-eyed and laughing/we were dancing up
to the bright side" ("joking")  nobody has to know it ends with "but you were
only joking"!  :)

first verse of "strange fire"?

all right, all right, time to go away and pester other people now.

          danna

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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: get together day!
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i used to sing in a folk group in my local catholic campus
ministry...most of the things we did were not quite that un-liturgical
(unfortunately), but we did do "babylon" by don mclean and lee hays.
also, last summer i worked for youth ministry in a parish in the bay
area, and we did let it be, get together, and even let the river run from
"working girl."

these days i play at another campus ministry, and we have done stuff like
that also...it's just me and one other guy so we can play what we please,
for the most part...

--mike

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from:         lorie driscoll <dyqf47d@prodigy.com>
subject:      you know  you're an ig fan when ...

well, let me ask.  did anybody else out in netspace.org-land go out
and see the movie "georgia" just because the title was "georgia"?

well, plus it was about singers.  i'd recommend it, why not.  it was
about the relationship between two sisters, one who was successful in
music/singing/writing, one who didn't have "the voice."  more than
that, it was also, imo a strong anti-drug movie.  the movie also had
a pretty darn good song in it, "hard times," which was the older
sister, georgia's big hit.  i thought it was pretty realistic,
dragged in a few places, but, all in all i'd say go see it to any
music fan.

lorie
aka mediamongr@aol.com

ps aolers say hi : )

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from:         jan stevens <janinsdale@aol.com>
subject:      re: amy's soc 'n stuff
x-to:         rbsayre@interserv.com

in a message dated 96-02-17 15:39:36 est, rbsayre@interserv.com (rick b
sayre) writes:

>  watershed--->  emily says  "... it would be hard to say what my
>life would be like, unattached to this particular experiece - as an
>artist, signed to a major lable.  it would be more than nothing.  it
>would be so much more than nothing."
>
>

yea, i agree, especially because she and amy seem to be talking about totally
different things...

it reminded me of some of the interviews seen in "spinal tap"  :)

jan

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from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???
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oh, but don't forget the wonderful message this is sending to the kids.
remember this quote, or was it a san fran. paper exclusive? :

        "everyone suffers because of the gays," said 16-year old brett
        shields, a member of east high's beef club (yes, the beef club!!),
        which met last week to eat steaks and burgers."

the beef club? i think there might be bigger problems for the school
district to handle than the issue of sexuality.


on thu, 22 feb 1996 gkemp@ces.clemson.edu wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
> i got a small chuckle out of this when i saw it on the tv news this
> morning.  nearly choked on my bran flakes.  you'll see why in a
> minute.
>
> > > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
> > >
> > > salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
> > > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
> > > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
>     ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
> remember this part, it comes up later.
>
> > > spokeswoman said on wednesday.
> > >
> > > after a heated public debate, featuring more than 100 speakers, the
> > > board voted 4-3 to ban all groups such as chess and ski clubs,
> > > environmental clubs, peer leadership and ethnic clubs from its
> > > compuses.
>
> i wouldn't get too worked up about this, since the decision will
> certainly be reversed once they realize they outlawed the football
> team as well.  after all, team sports are non-curricular.  and no
> self-respecting school district will give up its sacred football team.
>
> although, with the (surprising) support mr. buchanan is getting, we
> may well have to defend our civil liberties against more serious
> assults in the near future.  forewarned is forearmed.
>
> there really is only one way to make sure things like this don't
> happen again.  vote.  get involved.  it's your country, too.
>
> --
>
> greg "straight but not narrow" kemp
> gkemp@ces.clemson.edu
> http://www.ces.clemson.edu/~gkemp/
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julie goldman also wrote "southbound train" on nanci griffith' "flyer"
album. a really good song. she is currently in the group "four bitchin'
babes" with christine lavin et all.

derek :)

on thu, 22 feb 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> on thu, 22 feb 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:
>
> > julie gold is the one who was on acl w/ ig, mcc, and nanci.  she's the
> > "wind beneath my wings woman."  i remember this b/c when i tell people my
> > name occasionally someone says "hey are you that woman who wrote wind
> > beneath my wings"  and i reply "um, _no_."  duh.  anyway....
>
> well i didn't know that, but she also wrote "from a distance" for nanci
> griffith (which was covered by kathy mattea, i think, and then bette midler).
> who sung wind beneath my wings and what else did she write?
>
> mat
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no, i didn't write "southbound train;" i assume julie _gold_ did.  thanks,
though.
    -julie

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                                -emerson

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on thu, 22 feb 1996, derek keith moulaison wrote:

> julie goldman also wrote "southbound train" on nanci griffith' "flyer"
> album. a really good song. she is currently in the group "four bitchin'
> babes" with christine lavin et all.
>
> derek :)
>
>
>
> on thu, 22 feb 1996, indigo jo wrote:
>
> > on thu, 22 feb 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:
> >
> > > julie gold is the one who was on acl w/ ig, mcc, and nanci.  she's the
> > > "wind beneath my wings woman."  i remember this b/c when i tell people my
> > > name occasionally someone says "hey are you that woman who wrote wind
> > > beneath my wings"  and i reply "um, _no_."  duh.  anyway....
> >
> > well i didn't know that, but she also wrote "from a distance" for nanci
> > griffith (which was covered by kathy mattea, i think, and then bette midler).
> > who sung wind beneath my wings and what else did she write?
> >
> > mat
> >
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> > |                    |         - jeannette winterson, "the passion"    |
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in a message dated 96-02-22 23:31:51 est, dyqf47d@prodigy.com (lorie
driscoll) writes:

>       you know you're an ig fan when ...

i read the weather forcast for atlanta everyday...

but i live in phoenix!!  :)

jan

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i just have to say i saw that movie, too.  it got really good reviews and
it sounded good, so i went with a few friends about a month ago. we
_hated it_.  it just went on and on and on  and on....  definitely _not_
worth the overpriced tickets.  but i've heard some people say they liked
it...i just thought it was really redundant and boring, even though i did
appreciate the anti-drug msgs, as lorie mentioned.  it was a good
premise; i just didn't like the flick itself.

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on thu, 22 feb 1996, lorie driscoll wrote:

> well, let me ask.  did anybody else out in netspace.org-land go out
> and see the movie "georgia" just because the title was "georgia"?
>
> well, plus it was about singers.  i'd recommend it, why not.  it was
> about the relationship between two sisters, one who was successful in
> music/singing/writing, one who didn't have "the voice."  more than
> that, it was also, imo a strong anti-drug movie.  the movie also had
> a pretty darn good song in it, "hard times," which was the older
> sister, georgia's big hit.  i thought it was pretty realistic,
> dragged in a few places, but, all in all i'd say go see it to any
> music fan.
>
> lorie
> aka mediamongr@aol.com
>
> ps aolers say hi : )
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but i thought southbound train was written by graham nash!!  or maybe
it's a different song...

--mike

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subject:      idiot gallery...

ok -- there have been 30 or so hits to the gallery now and i have not
gotten comments or suggestions from many of you... if you did go look at
it, what did you think? how can i improve it?  it seems this might work
better with help from y'all rather than just me making fun of lorinda's
photography (thank you jude for sending your photo! hint to all the rest
of you... send me pictures...)..
        thanks and take care.... phil

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subject:      signon

                  - signon indigo girls -

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subject:      concert boots, anyone? please?

hey fellow listies!
just a quick question. would anybody by chance have a copy of some sort
of the 95 illinois wesleyan concert? please? i'd love you forever!!!!
                                              tanx in advance,
                                                     chris

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subject:      other voices...same room!! little igc

hi there...

bette midler also sang wind beneath my wings, which i think was
written by julie gold...i've never been able to like from a distance,
because i first heard it by bette...and i am not a fan of
hers...julie gold also wrote several other songs for nanci
griffith...including once in a very blue moon...the first song i
heard from nanci...and forever a favorite.

i was listening to mcc this morning and shawn colvin sings on jubilee
on stones in the road...when you start to look, all these artists are
intertwined in some way...it's really cool!!

does anyone know who else will be playing at the newport
festival...is it usually a big event (sorry for the naivity, but you
have to know what you're looking for if you want to find that
information over here).

anyway, i guess today is 'walk away' day...thanks for the update
'angie in kc'!  i haven't *listened* to this one in a while...well i've
played the cd, but haven't tuned in...sorry...lack on input this
morning...had to get the igc in somewhere!!!

have a fun weekend all...i'm having to go on fieldwork for a couple
of days to help someone out...not a lot of fun in store...please no
rain!!

talk to y'all later

love helene

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on fri, 23 feb 1996, helene burningham wrote:

> bette midler also sang wind beneath my wings, which i think was
> written by julie gold...i've never been able to like from a distance,
> because i first heard it by bette...and i am not a fan of
> hers...julie gold also wrote several other songs for nanci
> griffith...including once in a very blue moon...the first song i
> heard from nanci...and forever a favorite.

julie didn't write very blue moon, pat alger and eugene levine did.

mat

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subject:      re: other voices...same room!! little igc

on fri, 23 feb 1996,  indigo jo wrote:

> on fri, 23 feb 1996, helene burningham wrote:
>
> > bette midler also sang wind beneath my wings, which i think was
> > written by julie gold...i've never been able to like from a distance,
> > because i first heard it by bette...and i am not a fan of
> > hers...julie gold also wrote several other songs for nanci
> > griffith...including once in a very blue moon...the first song i
> > heard from nanci...and forever a favorite.
>
> julie didn't write very blue moon, pat alger and eugene levine did.
>
>mat

oops...am i getting confused...you know you can get so obsessed with
some things that you lose all sense...

see you later

love helene

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> album. a really good song. she is currently in the group "four bitchin'
> babes" with christine lavin et all.
>
>

actually, she's not.  julie was in the "rotating" chair, first held by
patty larkin, now held by debi smith of the smith sisters.  other
people who have filled in (but not recorded with the babes, who
are fabulous btw), include cheryl wheeler and kristina olsen and
other poeple i can remember at 7:50 am  :)

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      nigc:  daily affirmation

okay folks, this is your daily affirmation, so just stare blankly at your big
blue screen and repeat after me:

today is going to be a great day!!!  i will smile at all strangers who dare to
look my way (even if they do think i'm crazy).  i will let at least one person
in front of me in rush hour traffic (even if they don't put their blinker on).
i will hold my head high (even if others look down on me).  i will walk lightly
and hum my favorite tune without worrying whether or not i'm actually in tune.
i will thank god for all great things that make life worth living.  and i, being
the person who knows me best, will see the value that i bring to the world.

now, even if this all leaves your mind the minute you open your front door,
doesn't it make you feel amazingly self-assured!!  okay, it may not work for
everyone, but it's the thought that counts, right?  (okay, so i'm going to get
the results back from a horrible, monstrous economics exam back today, just
humor me!)

alright, now you're on your own.  go out there and knock them dead (figuratively
speaking of course)!  watch out for those ped xings!

happy (insert whatever song is the topic today) day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tamara

p.s.  i'll crawl back into the shadows for a while now and leave it up to those
w/ something better to say.

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subject:      walk away day..

okay, y'all know how amy says "i'm gonna have to take out some of the
'baby's in this song, 'cause there are about a hundred of 'em.." or
something like that on latul?  well, just out of curiousity, my
friend bob and i counted them once...we were gonna write 'em a letter
that read something like this..

      dear amy,

             there are exactly 38 'baby's in walk away... thanks..


        heheh, just wanted to share.. :)

                                       peace and bless you,
                                       shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      silly photo gallery

happy friday everyone:

i'm northbound later this morning from windy las vegas to the great,
white, cold, north of banff, canada.

as visitor #39 to phil's (& lorindigo's) silly ig photo gallery, i
wanted to thank both of them and
jude for their web site.  it certainly conveys a sense of silliness
which was missing a few weeks back -- good going phil!

although i don't own any pix of a&e to donate, perhaps we can have a
photo contest post-new orleans?  silliest photo with (or without) a&e.
  highest quality shot; etc...  what do you think?

otherwise, thanks again phil & i'll catch up with everyone on sunday
night.

melissa
"trying to stay warm in a cold world"

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          jan-  thanks for the info on the minister.

          as for buchanan, i think david letterman said it best the
          other night when he said, " the buchanan election committee
          are working very hard...in fact they were last seen cutting
          holes in bed sheets."

          ha!
          go dave

          towanda

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on 22 feb 96 at 23:27, lorie driscoll wrote:

> well, let me ask.  did anybody else out in netspace.org-land go out
> and see the movie "georgia" just because the title was "georgia"?


no, but i did go see boys on the side, just becuase indigo-girls make
a short appearance in it. not a bad movie really. love the part where
they are sitting around the living room and amy is leaning up against
the wall looking way too cool.

so does that qualify me as a fan?


peace

dan perkins
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tour guide to the obvious
'
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'
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subject:      american tune

greetings all--

i am experiencing a sad time in my life and singing 'american tune' from the
blood & fire boot helps immensely.  however i have been unable to decipher the
words at the end of one line and wondered if anyone could help me.  i have never
before realized how much i used the lyrics that are included with all the
'legitimate' indigo girls releases.

if you can, please fill in the blanks for me:

many's the time i've been mistaken, and many times confused.
yes and i've often felt forsaken and certainly misused.
oh but i'm all right, i'm all right, just weary to my bones.
still you don't expect to be xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
so far away from home.

etc, etc.

this song is so wonderful it may soon replace chickenman as my favorite song.
i'd be grateful for any help, including info on who wrote it (a&e?) if that is
known by any list members.

thanks,

wendy


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on fri, 23 feb 1996, wendy l. wagner wrote:

> many's the time i've been mistaken, and many times confused.
> yes and i've often felt forsaken and certainly misused.
> oh but i'm all right, i'm all right, just weary to my bones.
> still you don't expect to be xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> so far away from home.

i believe it's "bright and bon vivant", though i could be wrong.

> this song is so wonderful it may soon replace chickenman as my favorite song.
> i'd be grateful for any help, including info on who wrote it (a&e?) if that is
> known by any list members.

it's a simon and garfunkel song.

k

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subject:      re: walk away day..

does anyone know if there are more baby's in walk away, on the original release of strange fire on vynal or are they the same cut.

trant

>              there are exactly 38 'baby's in walk away... thanks..
>

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subject:      walk away day!

happy walk away day!

oooh, this is soooo groovy!  i've got a really nice memory that goes with
this song.  before i left home i was in a five girl band called the
richochet lemons - we played lots of bangles covers 'cos we hadn't heard of
ig at that time.  anyway since we all left home and drifted away to
different parts of the country i've really missed playing with them, so it
was really cool a couple of years ago when one of them, lemon,  came down to
visit me for a couple of days and we played at a little womens bar where i
used to help run a music night.  we both learnt wa by ourselves and only had
about an hour to rehearse before we performed the song (i think we also did
'til tuesday's 'other end of the telescope' and nanci's 'listen to the
radio' as well.)   anyway,  i remember being really surprised 'cos lem was
singing emily's part and did all the vocal gymnastics over the last chorus
absolutely perfectly!  i lurve em's geetar part in the song - it's such fun
to play!!  it sort of takes over with a momentum of its own.  anyway, we
probably sounded pretty rough but we had such a good time!  unfortunately
the bar has since closed down and womens music nights are no more :-(   i
really miss them, but at least this song always reminds me of those groovy
times!

on another subject - no takers for my link  ig-to -prince question then?
c'mon people now - have a guess!

have a great weekend everybody,


seffy

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date:         fri, 23 feb 1996 11:21:22 -0800
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subject:      re: nigc-buchanan
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yeah, and the buchanan brigades will shortly be making an appearance in
"spingtime for hitler"...

--mike
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subject:      some ig- ferron!!!!!

well ya'll- yesterday i got my bmg order- ferron's "phantom center". i totally
didn't know what to expect except that amy and emily played on one song... but i
figured, it was my half off selection, so- why not??
it is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the album. it's amazing!! now if someone could just tell me where i can
find her original version of "it won't take long" i'd be super duper extra happy
with a cherry on top!
:)
rick

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subject:      re: walk away day!
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on fri, 23 feb 1996, rachel sefton-smith wrote:

> on another subject - no takers for my link  ig-to -prince question then?
> c'mon people now - have a guess!
>

wouldn't be the squiggle of darkness would it ? ...

mat

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subject:      power of two in holland
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hi y'all!!

last wednesday i was at the concert of the dutch singer mathilde santing.
her middle name is "choosey" 'cos of her great sense of picking the numbers
she covers. no big hits but songs with meaningful lyrics and good music.

among songs from randy newman, joni mitchell etc she sang ig's power of two!
she introduced the song by saying something like: sometimes you have the
feeling that life is perfect, that your one with the world. you sit with
your lover in the car and your hand is on her knee.........

my fave dutch singer singing a song from my fave american singers....
making a great concert even better!!

patricia

patricia stokman
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subject:      american tune

hi all!
  just wanted to mention something about american tune....
i noticed it is copyrighted 1973, and wasn't sure if it was really a
simon and grafunkel song, or just a paul simon effort.
   also i can't help but feel like this is a song about vietnam...
and it makes me extremely sad to listen to.  although the meaning in
the words can expand to take on more meaning than those surrounding
it historically, i still can't help but think of vietnam every time i hear
it.
      plus this song always reminds me of the csn song "cathedral".
what does everyone think?

   just a thought! -
   dana (writing about at even though it is walk away day!)  warnez

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subject:      the prince connection

hi all !

today in walk away day post, seffy mentioned some
link between ig and prince.....well i am behind on reading
my mail, but if  this was a trivia type question, i think i have
the answer.
   in watershed there was a clip about a & e talking about
wardrobe or fashion or something and on stage em says to
amy that she looked like prince in her purple outfit.....
   did i get it, seffy?

  bye- dana

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on 22 feb 96 at 23:27, lorie driscoll wrote:

> well, let me ask.  did anybody else out in netspace.org-land go out
> and see the movie "georgia" just because the title was "georgia"?

..when your office has a ig bumper sticker, ig 1200 curfews poster, ig
wallpaper on 2 pcs in office, amy sings "it won't take long" every time i
get e-mail, amy sing's "bury my heart at wounded knee" when i turn on my
pcs, i named my novell netware server "indigo", and (finally) i only listen
to ig on my cd player.  not to mention all my passwords at work are either
'indigo', 'amyemily' or 'emilyamy'.

there's actually a housing community called 'indigo blue' or something in
houston.  i think my husband will have me committed if i suggest we move
there just for the name!?

people can't not notice i kinda like ig.  actually, they usually ask
'who?'.

if there were only dancing amy and emily icons for windows 95...any
programmers out there???

- jen hall

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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: how will we id each other?

ok, i initially accidentally sent this just to randy, so now i'm sending it to
the whole list...

>on the subject of meeting up...
>i've had a little experience with this, so lemme give y'all a few pointers.
>first of all, even tho everyone here is really excited about meeting up,
>believe me, it's not as easy as it sounds. people tend to be all for the idea
>when they're on-line, but they get really shy when the "moment of truth"
>arrives. so what you _have_ to do is make a sign, flag, or banner, arrange a
>_very_ specific time and place, and stand there with sign/flag/banner held
>high and proud. the sign should be big and noticable, but for the sake of
>people who are embarrassed to be computer geeks, you might want to make the
>sign a little more subtle than "ig mailing list" or the list address or
>whatever. it can say absolutely anything. (i suggested something like
>"rototiller" for newport last year) as long as you all know what it's going to
>say. most importantly, whoever is in charge of the sign should _stick_ with
>the plan! be there at the scheduled time and have the sign held high. you'll
>be sure to meet some folks.
>
>other ideas such as t-shirts, buttons and hats are good ideas too. you'll
>occasionally run into each other and say, "hi," but that won't lead to a major
>list meet.
>
>just a few thoughts on the subject...
>lorindigo
>
>

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lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "i want to harbor you from the anger
bethlehem, pa             find a refuge from the wrath. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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subject:      thanks ya'll

hiya all,

i just wanted to say hello, and introduce myself.... i live in louisiana, and
i am a junior at lsu.  i was wondering if anyone is planning to go to the
1996 jazz fest in, of course, new orleans?  i went to the 1993 jazz fest,
when the igs were last there.... a great concert.... they played with
michelle malone.  fun!  they also played alot of old stuff, which is my fav.
at their latter concerts they play nothing old and every single song off the
album they are promoting.. which is fine with me, but i am personal apt to
the old stuff.

i have been to several ig concerts and i was wondering if anyone else has
noticed how much they say "thanks ya'll" after every song??    this is an
inside joke among my ig loving friends...  one concert, the swamp tour, they
said it about 20 times... it is so funny!!  i think amy says it the most.

peace, and nice to meet you all....

"rest and be thankful" - william wordsworth

"thanks ya'll" for listening

kelley a. hoffmann

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subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???

ok, i'm jumping in a little late here (catching up on email) and i've _never_
lived in utah, but i thought i'd make a comment anyway (don't i always?)
on this issue:

>> > > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
>> > >
>> > > salt lake city (reuter) - seeking to block gay and lesbian students
>> > > from having on-campus club meetings, the salt lake city school board
>> > > will ban all non-curricular clubs from its schools, a district
>>     ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^

_really_ spooky world we live in folks! i know this isn't an answer or
anything, but what's to keep g&l groups from meeting anyway. i know they
wouldn't be funded, and i know they wouldn't be recognized, and i know that's
really bad, but you can't take away people's right to congregate, right? i'm
about as far from a legal expert that anyone could possibly get, but it seems
to me that that might be a way for people to protest the ban. just meet
anyway, and do so very publically. ok, i'm rambling and sounding stupid too,
sorry.
>> although, with the (surprising) support mr. buchanan is getting, we
>> may well have to defend our civil liberties against more serious
>> assults in the near future.  forewarned is forearmed.

ok, now this buchanan stuff scares me too. i was surprised when he won the
primary. i asked my brother about it (he knows a _lot_ more about politics
than i do) and he said some things that made me feel better. a)buchanan is too
radical to ever win the whole election. this country tends not to elect people
who are too far either to the right or left. and b)if he _did_ win, then (at
least my brother and i feel this way) for once we would be very glad that the
government tends to move veeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy
sllllooooooowwwwllllyy when it comes to making changes in public policy. so if
he ever got voted into office, hopefully we'd have another year or two before
i felt compelled to move to another country.

just some of my probably completely inappropriate opinions...
folkisgruven,
lorindigo

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "i want to harbor you from the anger
bethlehem, pa             find a refuge from the wrath. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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subject:      fan tour update 2/23/96

i just signed the contract and finalized all of the details with the
la quinta inn-airport in new orleans, so everything is set for the
new orleans jazz festival.  the details are as follows:

50 rooms reserved for may 1-5 at $132 per night or $33 per person per night

to reserve one of these rooms or a space in one of these rooms, you need to
send full payment (check or money order) made out to the follwing name to the
following address.

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

i will also be chartering a bus to take indigo girls fans (joan baez and joan
osborne fans are also welcome) to and from the concert at the uno lakefront
arena on 5/4.  the cost for a seat on this bus is $20 per person round trip.

if you need any additional information, please feel free to e-mail me at
indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu or call me at (908)418-0721.

if you have not yet booked a flight to new orleans, the cheapest airfares
will come from valuejet air (800)825-8538.  they have not yet started taking
reservations for may, but they should be within the next few days.

please forward this message to any and all listservs or newsgroups that have
anything to do with indigo girls, the new orleans jazz festival, etc..
thanks for your help and support.  talk to y'all soon.

let it grow

bert

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subject:      prince to ig

probably way too obvious and not as subtle as you are looking for, but they
both sing songs called "i wanna be your lover"

(see blue food and prince's first album)

buh bye!
susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      scrapbook for amy and em...listmembers

hi all y'all. i have been getting a little bit o needling abou the
scrapbook i proposed doing so here's the story.

i have the leather binder. everyone who wants to do it, send me a 8.5 x 11
page of any kind of paper, any thing on it, funny, silly, poignant, pictures,
words, drawings, whatever! the deadline will be anytime from now til may, cause
i will take it with me to new orleans and find a way to get it backstage
(are any of you well connected out there?) or should i just mail it to
russell carter's office?

the binding capacity is 200 pages, so if more of you want to do it, i'll get
or make another binder.

my address is:
susan marine
14 east cache la poudre
colorado springs, co. 80903

again, send it anytime between now and may 1...that gives everyone plenty of
time. be sure to clearly mark your page somewhere with your name and whatever
else you want on it (address or whatever). later in the year i'll do a public
acknowledgment of everyone who contributed, kay?

email me if questions. i'm psyched about this and hope you all are too....

susan smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      walkawayday...and other stuff

okay....apologies go out to whoever bitched about the whitehouse thing
i thought people would be interested...personally if you don't want to
read it i think you should should delete it and go about your biz...
i repeat, apologies do go out to whomever....
but don't verbally spank me....i'm not a child daddy-o! :/

walk away day....the "baby" song....hehehehe i like it just because
of the way amy growls when she sings "walk away oh yeah walk awaaaaaaay"
there's a personal parallel to that song and something that happened in my
life. another reason why it's cool
ummmm....i forgot what else i was going to say...i'll try to remember it
later.....oh wait! about daily affirmations...hehehehe.....i have amy's
touch me fall stream of consciousness on my wall as a daily affirmation...
"and i will not be complacent andi
will not be complacent and i will not
be a sexist and i will not be a racist and i will not be a homophobic asshole
and i will love and i will love and i will be happy that i am alive!!!"

amen!    don't ya just love her?
i feel just like amy says when she says in the chickenman stream about
how she just wants to go faster and faster and if she sees a bumper sticker
that offends her she wants to ram in the back of whoever's car it's on..
sorry about the run-on....:)
god help those offensive bumper sticker people when i get my station
wagon.....i just might do it.....(kidding)
y'all have a great day....
sal-ray

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from:         anne haines <ahaines@indiana.edu>
subject:      re: some ig- ferron!!!!!
in-reply-to:  <199602232223.raa26608@obslave.ucs.indiana.edu>

rick said:
>
> well ya'll- yesterday i got my bmg order- ferron's "phantom center". i totally
> didn't know what to expect except that amy and emily played on one song...
  but i
> figured, it was my half off selection, so- why not??
>  it is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> i love the album. it's amazing!! now if someone could just tell me where i can
> find her original version of "it won't take long" i'd be super duper extra
  happy
> with a cherry on top!
> :)
> rick
>
> --
yeah, ferron's pretty terrific! sometimes i listen to her and sit there
in absolute awe of her lyrics. i've been listening to her since, oh...
1983 or so. maybe '84. anyway, "it won't take long" is on her album
_shadows on a dime_ (released in 1984), which is a really nice album
overall. lately i've been listening to _driver_, which came out... hmm,
last year or the year before. took a while for it to grow on me, because
musically it's rather understated, but the lyrics are full of wisdom
about life and relationships and stuff like that. i also recommend (well,
i recommend everything of hers, but most especially) her live album, _not
a still life_. it has lots of her older material on it, which is very cool.

if you can't find any of these locally, i betcha rdr has or can get them,
or i know that ladyslipper carries them all.

enjoy!
anne

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subject:      a quick "help!"--please read

sorry to bug y'all, but could someone who still has the postings from
weds., feb. 21, please forward a few to me??--especially anything that has
to do with the new orleans jazzfest or may 4 concert! the "mail handler"
here at my u temporarily got bogged down by too much mail or something
and i didn't get anything from the 21st. thanx so much!

no-longer-able-to-survive-without-every-shred-of-"list"-news,

christine  :>

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organization: prifysgol cymru - aberystwyth - university of wales
subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199602232219.raa23189@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on fri, 23 feb 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

> least my brother and i feel this way) for once we would be very glad that the
> government tends to move veeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy
> sllllooooooowwwwllllyy when it comes to making changes in public policy. so if
> he ever got voted into office, hopefully we'd have another year or two before
> i felt compelled to move to another country.

well you won't be the only one planning to move if the republicans win
the next election.   nanci griffith said if they do, she'll leave america
for good, and presumably move to ireland where she's got a property (a
loft in dublin i think).   and i think bert said something about moving
to australia ... how did your nazi-bash go then bert??

mat

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subject:      re: walkawayday...and other stuff

i have amy's
>touch me fall stream of consciousness on my wall as a daily affirmation...
>"and i will not be complacent andi
> will not be complacent and i will not
>be a sexist and i will not be a racist and i will not be a homophobic asshole
>and i will love and i will love and i will be happy that i am alive!!!"


me too...only its taped on my printer so that i know i will see it
everyday...and so that all of my friends can see it too.  (and i have the whole
quote up)  its too cool =)  amy is too cool =)

peace,hugs,and ig,
nicole

here's a new quote to make you all think {thanks to carlisle stockton and the ig list for this one =)}...

"and i will not be complacent.  and i will not be a racist.  and i will not be a sexist.  and i will not be a homophobic asshole.  and i will not be sexist.  and i will love.  and i will love.  and i will be happy that i am alive."
                                                                                                                                                                                                --amy ray (ig)

cool frienship quotes (dedicated to all my friends and my bestest bud jaime)

"what is a friend?  a single soul dwelling within two bodies"--aristotle

"leaving ain't fair, you know, parting ain't just.  people got to move on,
people got to do what they must...and we're back together again.  and i'm never      gonna lose you as a friend..."--emily saliers (ig)

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date:         fri, 23 feb 1996 15:38:17 -0800
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subject:      re: american tune
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on fri, 23 feb 1996, dana warnez wrote:

> hi all!
>   just wanted to mention something about american tune....
> i noticed it is copyrighted 1973, and wasn't sure if it was really a
> simon and grafunkel song, or just a paul simon effort.

paul wrote and recorded it solo.

>    also i can't help but feel like this is a song about vietnam...
> and it makes me extremely sad to listen to.  although the meaning in
> the words can expand to take on more meaning than those surrounding
> it historically, i still can't help but think of vietnam every time i hear
> it.

it's actually about watergate, or so i have heard...but the mood in the
us about that time had as much to do with vietnam.

>       plus this song
always
reminds me of the csn song "cathedral". >

hmmm, interesting idea.  i guess both tunes try to tell a truth that
isn't easy to swallow...nash once said that he wanted to indicate that jc
was jc, and all the things that people say and do in his name are not all
that glitters.  i think paul is a lot more mournful, offering hope at the
end with the bit about his soul rising unexpectedly...nash seems more
angry and shocked in cathedral.
had never thought about the two songs together...thanx for the catalyst!

> >    just a thought! -
>    dana (writing about at even though it is walk away day!)  warnez
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subject:      re: a quick "help!"--please read

i've just sent all of the post from 2/21 to christine.
trant


> sorry to bug y'all, but could someone who still has the postings from
> weds., feb. 21, please forward a few to me??--especially anything that has
> to do with the new orleans jazzfest or may 4 concert! the "mail handler"
> here at my u temporarily got bogged down by too much mail or something
> and i didn't get anything from the 21st. thanx so much!
>
> no-longer-able-to-survive-without-every-shred-of-"list"-news,
>
> christine  :>
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subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199602232219.raa23189@ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

still, the very thought of buchanan even getting the nomination says a
lot of sad things about conservatives.  i respect conservatives who also
*think* about their beliefs (witness tom campbell and richard lugar, and
even barry goldwater, i guess), but i can't tolerate rightists who seem
to have airtight minds, like buchanan and dornan et. al.

but if buchanan does get the gop nod, clinton can take a vacation for
most of the fall...he will have already won.

--mike

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> but if buchanan does get the gop nod, clinton can take a vacation for
> most of the fall...he will have already won.

that's what george bush thought.

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subject:      re: how will we id each other?

lorinda wrights ;):
>>>high and proud. the sign should be big and noticable, but for the sake of
>people who are embarrassed to be computer geeks, you might want to make the
>sign a little more subtle than "ig mailing list" or the list address or
>whatever. it can say absolutely anything. (i suggested something like
>"rototiller" for newport last year) as long as you all know what it's going to
>say.<<<

ooh!!!!! i know a word!!!!!!


         "moo."  -emi...um, no, i'm not going to that place again. :)

:)

okay, okay, no hitting!!!!!!!!!! :)

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subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???

just thought i'd add what little i know about constitutional law.  i'm only a first year law student, and have only had 6 weeks of classes, but, i'll give it a try anyway.


>>> > > salt lake schools ban clubs to thwart gays
>_really_ spooky world we live in folks! i know this isn't an answer or
>anything, but what's to keep g&l groups from meeting anyway. i know they
>wouldn't be funded, and i know they wouldn't be recognized, and i know that's
>really bad, but you can't take away people's right to congregate, right? i'm
>about as far from a legal expert that anyone could possibly get, but it seems
>to me that that might be a way for people to protest the ban. just meet
>anyway, and do so very publically.

there is a first amendment right to association, "the right of the people peaceably to assemble."  but there are some caveats.  (1)i do not know if high school students are considered "citizens" in the full sense of the word.  (2)the amendment says that "congress shall make no law ..." and this law was made by the school board and not by congress (3)i think the state of utah is responsible for education, which would raise a question of separation of state and federal government responsibilities.

i'll let you know if my thoughts were correct, after i get through more of my constitutional law class...

alycia


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but i got caught up in the whirl and the twirl of it all
a day in the sun dancing alone
baby i'm so sorry
                                               - amy ray

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subject:      reconnecting...(nigc)

does anyone remember me?

        and why exactly does life go to shits when you least expect????

        i'd like to apologize to those i kind of left hanging for the
past few weeks.  the last time i posted was feb 5th the day before the
gig, and this is the first time i've officially logged on.  i meant to
recover after me and ponyboy's gig, but then, all this personal stuff
arises and i'm left scrambling.  i suppose the best thing i could have
done was unsubscribe, but i just had my roommate go into my mailbox and
keep it under relative control, since i've been in and out of town.

        so sorry to those who have privately messaged me, expecting a
response.  i'll be messaging those who mailed me in the next few days
(esp. those concerning the list parties).

        cheers to all.

dysenteri

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subject:      nigc-sort of

if pat buchanan gets elected, is his sister going to run the country?
i saw her on an interview sunday morning, and she scared me.
i thought bob dole was bad  :-)
ok, i just had to say something about this topic.....
usually i'm only on a political soapbox every other month.  :-)
later-

karrie

                 "water retention is not new to me..."
                                  -emily saliers

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subject:      re: ferron and indigo girls

here's $.02 from another big ferron fan
it probably won't surprise anyone to learn that emily has also said that
she's a big ferron fan; i think that lyrically they're very similar

"but by my life be i spirit
and by my heart be i woman
and by my eyes be i open
and by my hands be i whole"
ferron-"testimony"

also enjoying the song a day thread

gynergy(trying to remember where she put her pictures of a&e)

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subject:      re: (nigc) october project sf gathering

hi all!  i'm passing this info along to all bay area folks who may be fans of
october project, but aren't on their mailing list.....or all fans of great
music who'd like to check out a new band!  fans of op are gathering on
saturday march 2nd from 7-9pm at borders books and music in san francisco to
watch some cool op live video/rare footage, share free food and drinks, pick
up some cool memorabilia, and meet other op and like-minded music fans!
please come by and join us!  i'd personally love the chance to meet some of
the other bay area ig fans as well as op fans, and if you haven't heard of op
yet or checked out their music, now's your chance!  following is some more
information on the gathering & directions to borders - if you'd like more
info or are planning to go, e-mail me and i'll look for you there! :)

-connie

the following is a forwarded message from kevin (kevinc@adainc.com), who is
organizing the get-together.  you can also send questions or rsvp's, etc. to
me (cojehali @aol.com) and i will answer or pass the info along to kevin. :)
****************************************
here are the directions to borders which many of you have requested.  hope to
see you all on march 2.  please please please - bring any and all friends who
might be interested with you to our gathering.  if you have friends who
appreciate good music, but are not necessarily op fans, then you should
especially get them to come with you, and we will convert them!  borders is
located four blocks north of the powell street bart station, so if bart is
your preferred mode of transportation then you are in good shape.  email me
with any questions, comments, or requests.

here's everything that nor cal fans attending our bash on saturday 3/2
need to know:

1) what: a gathering of october project fans in san francisco for an
evening of food, drink, video watching, and meeting other op fans.

2) when: saturday 3/2, 7-9pm.

3) where: borders books & music, 400 post street, at the corner of post
and powell, near union square.  you can park wherever you want, but your
best bet is probably the sutter-stockton garage, at the corner of sutter
and stockton streets.  parking will cost $4 for the whole night (this is
cheap for sf).

directions from the east bay: come into sf across the bay bridge.  take
the fremont street exit.  turn left on mission, then right on 3rd street.
as you go straight across market street, 3rd street veers slightly to
the right and the name changes to kearney street.  turn left on sutter,
then right on stockton.  the garage entrance is on the right.  borders is
at 400 post, which is one block south and one block west of the garage.
if you don't know which way is south or west then just ask directions to
the corner of post and powell as you leave the garage after you park your
car.  if you get hopelessly lost, the phone number of the garage is
982-7275.  stop at a pay phone and ask them for directions.  also, the
phone numbers of borders are 399-1633 and 399-0522.

directions from the peninsula:  come into sf on 101.  take the 4th street
exit.  turn left on 3rd street.  from here the directions are the same as
above for the east bay.

4) other details: other than paying for parking this event is free.
borders is generously providing the space for us to gather, free food and
drinks (both alcoholic and non-alcoholic), and is not charging admission.
we cannot thanks timm lyons, borders music dept manager, enough for
this.  we will gather on the 3rd floor of borders in the children's
amphitheater.

we will get to see "op live at the tla," a one hour live performance by
op mixed with interview snippets.  (thanks go to sony and op management
for providing this.)  then we will see "just passing through," a behind
the scenes look at op on the road.  (thanks go to scott silberstein at
hms media for providing this.)  we will have other unknown tba video
goodies to watch (videos of songs?  you'll have to come to find out), and
we will have lots of cool op memorabilia to give away to all who attend.

5) what you need to do:  the purpose of this event is to provide an
opportunity for op fans to meet each other, to support the band, and to
convert new fans.  toward that end please plan to bring friends who may
or may not already be op fans.  please rsvp to me, kevinc@adainc.com, so
i can get a rough head count.  please rsvp to me even if you told me a
month ago you would come so i know that you are still coming.  when you
rsvp let me know how many are in your group or if you are coming alone.
i don't have to know exactly, your best guess is good enough.  this is
just so that borders can have an appropriate amount of food and drink on
hand.  see you there! :)

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from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      happy birthday!!!  (february 24, 1996)
x-cc:         h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk

happy birthday helene!!  american tune is playing right now :)  you are many
hours ahead of where i live so i'll post this a day early!!!  much warmth and
happiness to you!!

(h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk)

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>just wanted to mention something about american tune....
i noticed it is copyrighted 1973, and wasn't sure if it was >really a
simon and grafunkel song, or just a paul simon effort.

american tune is from the paul simon album  "there go rhymin' simon.

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subject:      re: nigc what country are we in?

i hope buchanan wins. he is far too radical to beat clinton. i think he mostly
wants to push his agenda.
jen

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subject:      re: nigc-buchanan
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in a message dated 96-02-23 14:24:22 est, mmessner@step.mother.com (michael
messner) writes:

>
>yeah, and the buchanan brigades will shortly be making an appearance in
>"spingtime for hitler"...
>
>--mike
>happily voting against the gop since 1990
>
>

mike,  i am 100% with you, and i have been voting since 1974!

angie in kc

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subject:      re: walkawayday...and other stuff
x-to:         und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu

in a message dated 96-02-23 17:58:00 est, und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu (tracy l.
fears) writes:

>i feel just like amy says when she says in the chickenman stream about
>how she just wants to go faster and faster and if she sees a bumper sticker
>that offends her she wants to ram in the back of whoever's car it's on..

yeah i know what you mean. this area is so much more bible belt than what we
wee used to in buffalo, (although i guess it's probably not even close to the
deep south). last sunday my hubby and i were on our way to do a bit of
gambling, and we saw a license plate that yelled "repent".  oops, sorry, too
late for me!

angie in kc

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from:         jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
subject:      re: "hey jesus" today is your day.
x-to:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>

>and then we call you in our despair
>and you don't come through
>
>the part "...and you don't come through"  i always thought would piss
>people off.  has anyone heard of people being offended, or are offended
>themselves?

well, i'm finally getting a chance to go through about a half a week of
mail.....

no, as a christian, i really don't feel offended by that line, though i can
think of some  people that might be.  evryone goes through times when they
seriously question their faith.  when a loved one dies....when you lose a
long term girlfriend/boyfriend...or some other really bad experience.  it's
something that you have to work through.  your faith may change...but
usually it'll end up stronger.  it's the people that never question their
faith at all that i worry about.  i tend to think something is wrong if you
don't have some questions.......


jack


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106 west eggleston hall      consists not in seeking new lands,
virginia tech                but in seeing with new eyes.
blacksburg, va 24060-0020
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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      ig photo policy

i've noticed several postings lately about concert photos, and am intrigued
by the indigo idiot gallery.

my question is this:
every ig concert i've been to has had a strict "no camera" policy.does this
reflect the wishes of a&e or is it more of a management decision?  i also
think that there is a big difference between taking pictures at a concert
and invading someones privacy (there are, of course certain rules of
etiquette:
no flash, no taking pictures during quiet moments in songs,don't be
obnoxious.).

i have a feeling that there are other shutterbugs out there....and some of
you
are more familiar with the duo than i am. i'd appreciate some insight on this

matter... do you just smuggle your camera in, or are there ways to arrange
a photo pass? (i've tried to get a pass, but had no luck.)
i hate to do something that would piss off a&e but my desire for freedom of
expression is very strong !
thanks !      claire

-it used to be more fun. the money people have taken over and its not
so friendly: everybody's afraid of everybody, afraid they're going to steal
something.-                           jim marshall  (photographer)
                                             [shooting stars, 1973 straight
arrow books]

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from:         ms janet m vansyckel <mglz19b@prodigy.com>
subject:      re: some ig- ferron!!!!!

> from: rick b sayre             \ internet:    (rbsayre@interserv.com)

> well ya'll- yesterday i got my bmg order- ferron's "phantom center".
[snip]  it is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i *totally* agree!!! <grin> definitely a must have!
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subject:      we really like your music

dear girls,

randy and russell really love to hear your music in those more intimate
moments.  y'all are an inspiration.  who writes the lyrics?  we've got a
couple good ideas for possible songs that you might be interested in.

what are your plans for this summer?  are you going to be in texas or
colorado?  we'd liketo hear you in person.

keep up the good work.  we need you to do that.

love to you both, from

randy and russell

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date:         sat, 24 feb 1996 14:07:58 -0500
reply-to:     susan steinike <inky@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         susan steinike <inky@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      nigc - looking for nikki nahra
in-reply-to:  <199602240504.aaa23235@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at feb 24, 96 00:03:47 am

sorry to do this, but nikki, are you still out there? your aol address bounces,
and i was just wondering if you ever got your disney tape since i haven't heard
from you in a while.  let me know what you're up to!

sue

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date:         sat, 24 feb 1996 11:09:26 -0800
reply-to:     michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: nigc - what country are we in???
x-to:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
in-reply-to:  <9602232353.aa06158@amy>

on fri, 23 feb 1996, trant batey wrote:

> > but if buchanan does get the gop nod, clinton can take a vacation for
> > most of the fall...he will have already won.
>
> that's what george bush thought.

yeah, but this time perot isn't a factor, and bush was so disconnected
from middle america that he really had no way to recoup.  it says more
for clinton that he came back and beat bush, imo...

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date:         sat, 24 feb 1996 13:34:54 cst
reply-to:     cindy katz <ckatz@accdvm.accd.edu>
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from:         cindy katz <ckatz@accdvm.accd.edu>
subject:      rdr

from: cindy
i've heard it said that there are no stupid questions, but this might qualify.
what is rainy day records?  are they a mail order company?  how would i go
about getting a catalog, price list, etc.?  thanks!  :)

--cindy

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date:         sat, 24 feb 1996 13:56:57 -0600
reply-to:     the flame <gflame@nwu.edu>
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from:         the flame <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: we really like your music

randy and russell--

>randy and russell really love to hear your music in those more intimate
>moments.  y'all are an inspiration.  who writes the lyrics?  we've got a
>couple good ideas for possible songs that you might be interested in.

ooooh--please send us some of your ideas.  we are currently working on our
new album and want to make it an album "written by the fans."  so please
send along anything you have so far.

>what are your plans for this summer?  are you going to be in texas or
>colorado?  we'd liketo hear you in person.

actually we are touring in texas.  do you think that we could stay at your
house while in town?  i mean hotels can be so expensive these days.  just
ask those poor folks trying to see us in new orleans.

>keep up the good work.  we need you to do that.

thanks--we certainly will be workin hard just for you fans. :)

love and kisses,

amy and emily


sorry folks.  i just couldn't resist that one.  later y'all and no offense
randy and russell :)

greg

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date:         sat, 24 feb 1996 15:03:20 -0500
reply-to:     wyohknott@aol.com
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from:         danna greenfield <wyohknott@aol.com>
subject:      nigc-sorry, folks, just trade stuff

joellen -- your tape got here this week.  thank you, thank you, a thousand
thank yous!               a blank is on its way this coming monday.

mandy, annie, chris t. -- did your tapes get there ok?

dana -- your tape is going out on monday. ;)  surprises abound.

colorado susan -- yours is also going out on monday, as i missed the post
office today.                            clever of me, wasn't it?

thanks, all.  sorry to the other 9 gazillion folks who got stuck with this.

=danna

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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: nigc-buchanan
x-to:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
in-reply-to:  <960224003615_331494996@emout09.mail.aol.com>

on sat, 24 feb 1996, angela ciesla wrote:

> in a message dated 96-02-23 14:24:22 est, mmessner@step.mother.com (michael
> messner) writes:
>
> >
> >yeah, and the buchanan brigades will shortly be making an appearance in
> >"spingtime for hitler"...
> >
> >--mike
> >happily voting against the gop since 1990
> >
> >
>
> mike,  i am 100% with you, and i have been voting since 1974!
>
> angie in kc

right on, angie!  keep it up!

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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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x-to:         karrie bowen <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
in-reply-to:  <01i1kdrz95u68x3r21@edinboro.edu>

haven't seen or heard bay buchanan.  my guess is that she is about as
scary as pat...more viewpoints?

--mike

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      no digest today???

hi folks,

i've been receiving the list in digest form the last few days, but i haven't received
anything today.  i know that everyone on the list couldn't have deserted their computers
today, so i'm wondering if there's a problem with the digest?  just wondering.  i need
my ig fix for the day.  i feel cut off from civilization when i don't receive anything
at all from the list!

peace,

joan :)

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subject:      ...somebody please help me...

can sombody plese email me and tell me how to get off this list, i have
tried everything i can think of and all i keep getting is error
messages back....ugh!

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reply-to:     col & low <clkeyes@capecod.net>
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hello!  i got your address from some web page (can't remember which).  would
love information re: tour dates, bootleg tapes of the girls.  any
information would be fantastic!  thanks!

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subject:      nigc- indicated 1, 2, 3, 7, 12, 37...

hullo!
      just a question.  where would one go about finding a copy of these fine
and loverly tapes?  info?  info?  e-mail's good.  happy saturday!  -sarah

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reply-to:     please.reply.via.fax.to.fax.number.shown@or.via.airmail.to.smail.address.shown
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from:         allison eng <allison.eng19@uwcr.edu>
subject:      ===>> free 1 yr. magazine sub sent worldwide- 295+ popular usa
              titles

-----> note:   please first read my note which appears below the "request
for more info form."  then, to get more info, just fill out the "request
for more info" form completely and *fax* or *smail* it back to the company.
you will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

important notice for those faxing in their reply:  please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  if you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  this is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
    with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  this last
    provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
    via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
note:  their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.  if you
have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at
work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or
first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
request for more info:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                              718-967-1550 in the usa

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                         magazine club inquiry center
                                         att. free catalogue-by-email dept.
                                         po box 990
                                         staten island ny  10312-0990

sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  if you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  if you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

---> sorry, but no handwritten forms will be acknowledged.
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name:
internet email address:
smail home address:
city-state-zip:
country:
work tel. #:
work fax #:
home tel. #:
home fax #:

how did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  referral by:  allison eng.
022396-l

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

name of usa mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


catalogue format options:
1.  19-part email- can be read by everyone (~525 k total).
2.  for more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525k - you
     must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
     open it with your word processor.  if in doubt, don't ask for this
     version.  this isn't for internet *newbies.* better to order option 1
     and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
     with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
     to deal with this option.
3.  for more advanced macintosh computer users: compressed attached
     text file, created with a stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
      ~133k.  can be decompressed by any macintosh computer user; no
     special expansion software or knowledge of stuffit (tm) needed.  you
     just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
     (unstuffs). this is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
     you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  it will cut
     your download time by 75%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in
     option #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
     able to do.
4.  for expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
     stuffit(tm),  ~114k.  can be decompressed by any computer user who
     has expansion software to decompress (expand) stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
     this is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
     download time by 78%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in option
     #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.

hi fellow 'netters,

my name is allison eng and i recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the usa that has a free 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and i have been very pleased with them.    they have over
1,500 different usa titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   as for computer magazines from the usa, they more of
a selection than i ever knew even existed.  they have magazines for most
every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

within the usa, for their usa members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  this is their price
guarantee.

overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for usa magazines.  on some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  they
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   in the usa, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  they are so cheap in the usa!   well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  they are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the usa and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   this is their price guarantee.  around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited english as a 2nd language.

their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

please do not email me as i am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
i don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

they guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal i have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but i have never found a lower rate yet.
they assured me that if i ever do, they will beat it.

they have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as i
haved moved from one country to another.

they have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the usa.   they will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
usa titles they sell.

they can arrange delivery to virtually any country and i think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  outside the usa there is a
charge for fph (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  i have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  they even helped me with an address change
when i moved from one country to another.

the owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   when he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  he is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (i
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via e-mail.

he has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  if you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but i think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, i guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

he only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  when i got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  i think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  i am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

they then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

once you get in, you'll love them. i do.


sincerely,

allison eng


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  it is a great deal!  if you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   if you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for christmas,
chanukah or any other occasion.  please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   i will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
thank you.

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 11:38:30 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      what's going on??

hey y'all
  i'm sorry to be annoying, but i've only gotten a few msgs this weekend
and half of them were from people who apparently aren't on the list and
didn't know who they were writing to.  anyway, i was just wondering if
everyone was only getting a few msgs, or if there's something wrong w/ my
email system. (just 'cause usually i get about 100-200 msgs over the
weekend; i'm just getting suspicious...hmm)
  thanks for your help in advance,
                julie

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                                -emerson

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reply-to:     angiecies@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
subject:      re: what's going on??
x-to:         jgold16@emory.edu

in a message dated 96-02-25 11:44:11 est, jgold16@emory.edu (julie elaine
goldman) writes:

>
>hey y'all
>  i'm sorry to be annoying, but i've only gotten a few msgs this weekend
>and half of them were from people who apparently aren't on the list and
>didn't know who they were writing to.  anyway, i was just wondering if
>everyone was only getting a few msgs, or if there's something wrong w/ my
>email system. (just 'cause usually i get about 100-200 msgs over the
>weekend; i'm just getting suspicious...hmm)
>  thanks for your help in advance,
>                julie
>
>~~

julie, i was wondering the same thing. i haven't seen hardly any mail this
weekend, and i thought it was strange because some people wanted to rehash
the songs of the week.  is everyone hibernating, or is there a problem with
the list??

angie in kc

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 12:29:21 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      re what's going on

hey y'all
  i got three responses to the "what's going on?" question, and someone
said to say if i heard anything.  the first one said maybe people aren't
writing b/c of the good weather, and the other two said "i don't know; i
was wondering the same thing."  so i just thought i should share.  ah,
it's all a mystery.  someone who knows what's going on, please clue us in.
  -julie

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                                -emerson

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 12:48:30 -0500
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      happy birthday!!! (february 25, 1996)
x-cc:         amanda.leff@yale.edu

happy birthday amanda, the saturday's child (?) on sunday!!  "...by grace my
sight grows stronger..."  :)))))))

(amanda.leff@yale.edu)  :)

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 13:22:55 -0500
reply-to:     christina l stone <cls410@lulu.acns.nwu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         christina l stone <cls410@lulu.acns.nwu.edu>
subject:      re: what country are we in?---pat buchanan (nigc)

hi everybody--
sorry for the nigc but i thought you all should read this if you're going
to vote.  this is a list of some of the things pat buchanan has
reportedly said in public.  i'm shocked he's gotten this far.
take care,
christi

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date: sun, 25 feb 1996 12:23:32 -0500 (cdt)
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subject: pat buchanan (fwd)

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date: fri, 23 feb 1996 10:31:57 -0600 (cst)
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subject: pat buchanan

the following is an excerpt from the koach jewish issues listserv written by
an author whose name was accidentally removed. while i cannot guarantee the
accuracy of all the information since i am not the author, it still seems very
relevant in light of the direction that the republican race has taken
recently so as a result, i took the chance of posting it here.

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>
>                  patrick buchanan:  in his own words
>
>*  buchanan told elie wiesel that president reagan must not surrender to
>"jewish pressure" against visiting  bitburg, a german cemetery where ss
>men were buried.  in a white house meeting with jewish leaders, buchanan
>reminded them that they were "americans first," as fellow staffer ed
>rollins later recounted to reagan biographer lou cannon.  buchanan
>repreatedly scrawled the phrase "succumbing to the pressure of the jews"
>on his notepad during the meeting.
>
>*  in 1990 william buckley, buchanan's former mentor, wrote a 20,000 word
>essay on buchanan that concluded: "i find it impossible to defend pat
>buchanan against the charge" of anti-semitism.
>
>*  buchanan has called hitler a "man of great courage" and extraordinary
>gifts."
>
>*  on abc nightline, march 11, 1992, buchanan told anchorman, chris
>wallace: "i'm one of the few people in this city, chris, who's had the
>guts to stand up to the agenda of the special interests, whether it's the
>civil rights lobbyist or the aipac lobby or the gay rights lobby, and say
>that their agenda is not in the interest of a good society and not in the
>interest of my country."
>
>*  in a march 13, 1991 syndicated column buchanan called israel "a
>strategic albatross draped around the neck of the united states."
>
>*  in an interview in present tense magazine, buchanan stated that "if my
>friends in the jewish community feel pat buchanan, a traditionalist
>catholic, owes some kind of apology for the record of the holy father
>during world war ii, they can wait, because it's not going to be
>forthcoming."
>
>*  in the chicago sun times of march 1989, buchanan criticized the west
>for ostracizing kurt waldheim.  buchanan rationalized,"like others in
>hitler's army, lt. waldheim looked the other way." (previously, as
>secretary general of the united nations, waldheim had been an object of
>buchanan's scorn).
>
>* on the mclaughlin report, august 26, 1990:
>
>"there are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in


the
>middle east, the israeli defense ministry and its amen corner in the
>united states."
>
>* in newsweek, december 23, 1991, jonathan alter writes that in 1983
>buchanan criticized the us government for expressing regret over its
>postwar protection of klaus barbie.
>
>* in 1985 buchanan advocated restoring citizenship of arthur rudolph, an
>ex-nazi rocket scientist
>
>* in 1987 buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of karl linnas, accused of
>nazi atrocities in estonia.
>
>* in a march 17, 1990 column, buchanan wrote that it was impossible for
>850,000 jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at
>treblinka. "diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill
>anybody." according to jacob weisberg in his article "the heresies of pat
>buchanan," october 22, 1990, the new republic, "buchanan stands by his
>bizarre claim about the diesel engines but refuses to discuss it on the
>record. suffice it to say that he embraces a bolder debunking claim than
>he is yet willing to endorse in print...where did he get the anecdote
>("proving" his assertion about the diesel)? 'somebody sent it to me.' "
>buchanan's source was almost certainly the july 1988 issue of a newsletter
>of the german american information and education association--a known
>holocaust denial group which quotes extensively from a story of
>schoolchildren who emerged unharmed after being exposed to diesel fumes
>while trapped in a train tunnel.
>
>* on march 2, 1992, at a campaign rally in marietta, georgia, where rabbi
>avi weiss called out, "your anti-semitism makes america last," buchanan
>shot back," this rally is of americans, for americans and for the good
>'ole usa, my friends."
>
>* in the new york post, march 17, 1990,buchanan referred to a"so called
>holocaust survivors syndrome" which he described as involving"group
>fantasies of martyrdom and heroics."
>
>*buchanan was a featured columnist for the spotlight, a patently
>anti-semitic and anti-black publication that championed david duke.
>
>*  former reagan press secretary larry speakes writes of buchanan in his
>memoirs, 'speaking out,' "..he (buchanan) was so blindly reactionary."
>
>* buchanan repeatedly referred to capitol hill as "israeli occupied
>territory." (mclaughlin report, june 1990)
>
>* on february 4, 1987 in the washington post, buchanan wrote: "dr. martin
>luther king is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history..." in
>an earlier article in the globe-democrat, buchanan wrote that king was "
>sometimes demagogic and irresponsible in his public statements."
>
>* in a january  16, 1986 column, buchanan wrote:" but apartheid is not the
>worst situation facing africans today.  not remotely.  if it were, they
>wouldn't be pouring into south africa from such "liberated" zones as
>mozambique."
>
>* in 1990, before the gulf war, buchanan wrote that if the us went to war,
>"the fighting would be done by kids with names like mcallister, murphy,
>gonzales and leroy brown." the national review (december 30, 1991)
>commented that "there is no way to read that sentence without concluding
>that pat buchanan was suggesting that american jews manage to avoid
>personal military exposure even while advancing military policies they
>(uniquely?) engender."
>
>please do the responsible thing and register to vote in your home state
>and help keep america a land where all people can live equally.
>

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 13:48:48 -0600
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      nigc - budweiser voice id

i was watching the bulls vs. magic game (go bulls) and a buweiser commercial came on over the airwaves.  the commerical featured the clydesdales (sp?) running through the snow and the voice of a woman singing "wild horses" by the rolling stones.  i could not identify the woman's voice and it is driving me crazy.

this group is filled with music lovers, with better ears than i have -- can anyone identify the voice?  it sounds a little like shawn colvin!?  i don't know if that's accurate.  the voice sounds so familiar.

i'll be obsessing about this one.
alycia

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subject:      signing off from afar ....help

a friend of mine is on this list, but she forgot to sign off before she went
away for a week. is there anyway that i can get her unsubed without being at
her comp. if i sent a message to listserv with her email in the body of the
message it would unsub me, right??? so i wonder if there is anyway to unsub
her. of course everyone could just stop writing for a week so that she
wouldn't have her system crash:)

thanks in advance
kate

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from:         lawyerman <eml@sky.net>
subject:      re: nigc - budweiser voice id
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on sun, 25 feb 1996, alycia wrote:
> i was watching the bulls vs. magic game (go bulls) and a buweiser
> commercial came on over the airwaves.  the commerical featured the
> clydesdales (sp?) running through the snow and the voice of a woman
> singing "wild horses" by the rolling stones.  i could not identify the
> woman's voice and it is driving me crazy.
> this group is filled with music lovers, with better ears than i have
>  -- can anyone identify the voice?

harriet wheeler.

lawyerman's world wide web page | calendar of kansas city area music
http://www.sky.net/~eml/        | http://www.sky.net/~eml/kcmusic.html

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subject:      fade away

does anybody know who wrote the song fade away..or even better does
anyone know the chords to the song...thanks josh

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subject:      nigc-buchanan's sister

          i couldn't help but add to this nigc thread.  i saw a few of
          you posting about buchanan's sister...too bad newt's sister
          didn't run things eh?  go candice!

          towanda

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greg,
stop it now! you know that amy and emily only sleep over my house during
their tours. and what's this "album for the fans" ordeal. everyone knows
that a&e are changing their name to the "indigo people" just for me.
ben

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subject:      shameless cd plugs

  yesterday i decided to treat myself by buying a couple cds'. good move
on my part. i discovered two great cds' and feel obligated to promote
them. neither are ig(obviously) but bare with me here.
  the first is a by a new age folk singer named jewel. although the music
seems redundant the lyrics are great and she had a spectacular voice(and
she's cute too:) the other is "the great subconcious club" by k's choice.
alot of ig fans may already be familiar with them because they toured
with ig in 94'. also on the "power of two" single they sing with ig on
neil youngs' "rockin' in the free world". anyway k's choice is an
excellent band and you should just stop what your doing and go buy their
cd.
that's it.
ben

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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      an indigo day; oops.

hey y'all
   everything appears back to normal w/ the # of msgs.  but thanks to all
of those who wrote me and made suggestions and comments and all that.

    well, y'all are going to shoot me, but guess what i did today?  i saw
ig, mm, wendy bucklew, and cooper seay play at red light cafe.  they
might still be playing now.  we were there from 2 til almost 6.  it was
apparently a surprise concert or something; i heard about it from a
friend whose sorority sister told her or something.  anyway, it was so
cool to hear that they're playing and to say, "hey, you wanna go see the
indigo girls?"  "sure"  "well, let's go."    and we didn't even have to
pay like $28 to get in.  my friends and i got there an hour early,
expecting the place to be swarming (b/c word of mouth travels fast), but
there was barely anyone there.  it was supposed to start at 3 but ended
up starting closer to four.  by the time they started playing, the place
was definitely a fire hazard -- it was packed.
   anyway, the did a writer's type format in which they took turns
playing: first wendy, then cooper, michelle, amy, emily.  they played
lots of new stuff.  and *excited grin* amy played "the ballad of
squeaky frome."  i was so happy b/c my friends and i have tried a zillion
request methods at every ig concert we've gone to for the past couple of
years, and she _never_ played it.  so it was the highlight of the show
imho.  overall, the whole experience pretty much rocked.  i wish y'all
could've been there.  thought i should share.
   pax,
       julie

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subject:      re: rdr

>what is rainy day records?  are they a mail order company?  how would i go
>about getting a catalog, price list, etc.?  thanks!  :)

oooh! oooh! lemme answer this time!
rdr is (big shock here) a record store. in fact, it is one of the world's
all-time coolest record stores. they're located in atlanta, and they support
the underground atlanta music scene, daemon releases, and all the other cool
music you hear about on this list. the store is owned and run by two of the
greatest people in the world, perry and marsha. give 'em a call. they ship
directly to you. the number is: (800) 636-6166, or you can email:
rainy@mindspring.com  or you can check out their web site at:
http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/

and while i'm busy plugging, i talked to perry yesterday and he told me they're
now carrying the putumayo series. there's one in particular that _i'm_
interested in: the laura love collection. she was the surprise hit at newport
last year. if you've never heard this woman, you _have_ to to beleive it.
she's simply amazing. it's rockin' celtic music with an african backbeat and
it originates from seattle. try figuring _that_ one out! really, she'll blow
you away.

ok, plug over. back to our regularly scheduled program,
folkisgruven,
lorindigo

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "i want to harbor you from the anger
bethlehem, pa             find a refuge from the wrath. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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actually she is julie. she has written at least three songs on the latest
"babes" album. (i think its the latest album.)

derek
on fri, 23 feb 1996, amy j. putnam wrote:

>
> > album. a really good song. she is currently in the group "four bitchin'
> > babes" with christine lavin et all.
> >
> >
>
> actually, she's not.  julie was in the "rotating" chair, first held by
> patty larkin, now held by debi smith of the smith sisters.  other
> people who have filled in (but not recorded with the babes, who
> are fabulous btw), include cheryl wheeler and kristina olsen and
> other poeple i can remember at 7:50 am  :)
>
> amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
> pegasus@crl.com                /      when you're alone
>                               /
> the original photo monk      /                --patty larkin
>
>

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subject:      shameless cd plugs

aw ... c'mon y'all ... if you want to get some great cd's pick up something
by commonbond  -- either "super elastic acoustic plastic" or "colors of lie
(live from the birchmere)" ...

back me up on this -- kate ???  deanna ???? marce ??? :)

btw -- kate -- the loser wav. almost got to you today - but my line
connection was screwed up and i got cut off ...

peace as always

chris

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subject:      re: austin city limits
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on sun, 25 feb 1996, derek keith moulaison wrote:

> actually she is julie. she has written at least three songs on the latest
> "babes" album. (i think its the latest album.)
>
> derek

julie is on volume 2, yes.  but volume 3 is now out and julie is not
on it, nor are of her songs.  debi smith is in that "seat".


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      info on new orleans needed

hi,
could someone please send me some information on the upcoming concert in
new orleans?  date, time, and any other pertinent information would be
greatly appreciated.

thanks,
ben

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hi y'all,

i couldn't resist getting a jump on make it easier day because it's one
of my faves. (i know, i cheat, i'm sorry...)  but, ya see, i couldn't
help but notice its absence from both adam schneider's guitar chord
archive as well as from olga, so-o-o... i'll start working on tab
tomorrow, but for now, here's the simplified chord version, enjoy!

scot

p.s.  crazy game is still in the works... rob sticka and ann mahasaen
have darn good ears and are setting me straight. =)

-=-=-=-=-=-

make it easier  (emily saliers)
---- -- ------

a couple chords to know for this, the very simplified version:

  -5-   -5-   -0-
  -6-   -5-   -3-
  -5-   -5-   -0-
  -0-   -5-   -4-
  -x-   -x-   -5-
  -x-   -x-   -x-

  f/d   c6    d11

f/d is "f major with a d in the bass" by the way, or "f over d."  which actually is also a version of a d minor seventh... anyway. =)


intro chords, this: |  is a bar line...

d   |    g| d    |    c|  a  |  f/d
d   | c   | c d11  |  c  | c d11  |  d11  |

       d                 g
i'm in search of greener pastures, don't like my

d                    g             d
garden's what i said, although i'm working harder than

g                    d    g         d         c
last year, i'm still deep in the red, i am rowing as hard

     g                c               g
as i can, and they're selling me up a stream, i'm always

d        bm     e                     f/d   c6
one more step away from the american dream.

(same as last verse:)
i got a chip on my shoulder about the size of a mental block,
i've got someone on the telephone trying to sell me a
future in stock, maybe i work too hard to be happy,
and i should practice letting go, but it's hard not to
rock the boat when you're sailing against the
undertow.

                       g              a
chorus: i want to slide into the black and wear the

        d                          g           a
        black mask, i might not get what i lack, but it

                   f/d      c6        (no chord)    g
        doesn't hurt to ask        if i want to sail,

                      a         d             c
        i need my life to be breezier i said, please, god, or

        g                am  g  d(back to intro)
        someone, make it easier

(third verse, same as the first:)
i went to sunday school every sunday swallowed the
bait and i got the hook and when i needed something
someday i would read the good book.  tell me, what
does it take to get ahead?  sometimes i know i'd sell
my soul when it looks like everybody else is flying,
and i'm crawling in the hole maybe if i open my own
business, maybe if i buy a lottery ticket, someone
tell me what is the secret to getting out of the thicket?
give me more than just a sample, i need a whole lot of
glory then my life become an example of the american
success story.

chorus

solo--i'll figure this out later (grin)  suffice to say for now that the chords are the same as for a verse underneath...

ending:

d   |    g| d    |    c|  a  |  f/d  |  high-d

high-d being:

-5-
-7-
-7-
-0-
-x-
-x-


that's the quick version, i'll try to find time to figure out more tab
tomorrow.  may have to do what i did for crazy game: post a quick intro,
then negotiate a version with other guitarists on here...

scot ninnemann
scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu

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ben back in buffalo they were playing jewel a lot. i agree with you, she's
really cute with a quirky feel to her songs. i'm trying to remember which
song they were playing up there; since i've been in kc (october) i don't
think i've heard her.  hopefully it'll come back to me; somtimes this stuff
just pops into your head!

angie in kc

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date:         mon, 26 feb 1996 01:08:13 -0500
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i am sure that i speak for the rest of us .... we are so jealous!!!!!  i
guess instead of moving to kc we should have gone to atlanta, but somehow i
don't think that my family would have considered moving closer to a & e as
the # 1 reason for moving (jeez, what's wrong with them?)

angie (trying not to think envious thoughts)  in  kc

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date:         sun, 25 feb 1996 22:27:47 -0800
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subject:      re: shameless cd plugs
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hey, i saw jewel on tnt's "wizard of oz" concert as dorothy!!! she has a great
voice!!! i haven't heard any of her other stuff, though. have to check it out.
:) rick
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from:         river city news <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      dead man's hill

hey from bc canada, all. i'm new to the list... been lurking + reading +
it's been fun... but i wanna come out and play now... can i?... will i be
responded to?... i'm afraid ( can't take rejection, you know )
anyway... i apologize greatly if i'm making a mailing list blunder here and
am stepping way out of bounds socially, being as this isn't the song for the
song a day theme ( which i think is a wonderful thread )... but i was
wondering if anyone could tell me what the story behind dead man's hill
is... does anyone know? i checked the faq at the site i was given the adress
for, and it's not there. it's a song that really haunts me... yet i can't
quite figure it out.
are most of you in the eastern states? i lived and worked ( at the unc at
chapel hill ) in durham nc for a while. beautiful area.
well... thanks y'all. have a good one.
kim fischer rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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date:         mon, 26 feb 1996 14:19:42 gmt
reply-to:     seffy <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         seffy <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      ig - prince answer/scrapbook

sorry mat, sorry danna, sorry susan, sorry melissa  - nope, you're all wrong
-  good guesses though!

the rather tenous connection is:

ig's language or the kiss has jane siberry doing guest vocals,
jane siberry's song calling all angels has kd lang doing guest vocals,
kd lang also guests with wendy & lisa on their song mother of pearl,
wendy & lisa were part of the revolution with the purple one.  (does anyone
know what happened to them? they were funky chicks!)

so there you go -the musical world's a small place after all!

scrapbook:  such a cool idea, susan!  only thing is, we'll never get to see
what everyone else has contributed.  how about if people could scan their
pages in and then maybe someone could set them up on a web site somewhere?

btw, i'm reading a really interesting book about the development of the
amercian english language.  according to this, a certain phrase we all know
and love became common in the south in the 1600's to indicate the collective
form of 'you' - and the phrase of course was:  "y'all"

yours linguistically,

*************
seffy
    cod==#
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from:         biking bugg <parsonss@it.uwp.edu>
subject:      engagement-obviously nigc

im engaged!!!!!!
we met through me talking to a friend about my new guitar and with her
telling me that "amy ray plays a black fender" and thats the beginning of
the rest of my life...we have to laugh at ourselves or we could cry our
eyes out if we didnt....heheheh im getting married!!!!!! (:
later yall,
stephanie

ps...im coming back to georgia over spring break...can someone tell me
whats up around athens and atlanta in two weeks?
any good shows?
thanks!!!!!

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from:         deborah luci <lucid@filoli.com>
subject:      the collective unconsious igc present but not readily seen

well, in response to the various questions regarding the collective
unconsious and reincarnation and the vast amount of ig related
dreams i thought i would share this bit of information i bartered
for with indigo tunes.  any complements about the content or hours
spent pouring through dusty books in the libraries of northern
ireland should be sent to helene who did all the hard work to bring
you today's message.

from the ancient myths and legends of the past here is an except
from a chapter about ancient superstitions that happens to remind me
of atlanta musicians.

...p 269...two days in the week, wednesday and friday are
considered by the country people most unpropitious for commencing
any important affair of life, such as setting out on a journey.
should the ancient superstitions be disregarded the project will
assuredly have a disastrous termination.
        there also exists a popular rhyme enumerating the days of
the week and their supposed influence on the dispositions of
children born on each, and these two unlucky days are depicted as
affecting the characters and after-life of those infants so
unfortunate as to enter the world upon either day: --

"monday's child fair in the face,
tuesday's child fair of grace,
wednesday's child lone and sad,
thursday's child merry and glad,
friday's child must work for a living,
saturday's child is godly given, but
sunday's child will go straight to heaven"

on the other hand, the most favorable days for charms and
incantations to take effect are the unlucky days, wednesday and
friday.....p 270....the earliest use of the dual was to express
things which occur naturally in pairs, as the eyes, the ears, the
hands; or artificially in pairs, as the horses of a chariot. when
things are thought of in pairs they are regarded as a unity. these
are idioms in the irish language, the pair being regarded as a
whole....p 271....so dromahaire or drumdaethiar, the ridge of two
demons, means the haunted ridge; for the country people, far from
limiting demons to two, are of opinion that the whole atmosphere is
swarming with them.


today's message has been brought to you by the numbers two, ten and
the letter t.

complaints about this message should be sent to lucid@filoli.com
please specify whether you're interested in the five minute argument
or the full half hour.

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from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      happy birthday!!!  (february 26, 1996)
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happy birthday sharon!!!  "...dreaming the dreams i dream my friend..."  and
wishing you lots of wonderful moments!!

(thegirls@pinn.net)

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      not much!

what's the line up this week...song-a-day type thing...i'm usually
ready to go home when i find out...we need a kind of noticeboard!!

i was away at the weekend, and overjoyed when i found the car that we
were travelling in had a tape-player...in i popped my rop tape...and
much to my horror, everyone in the car suddenly had verbal
diahorrea...what sacriledge...i was desperately trying to *listen* to
the music, while everyone else saw it an opportunity to chat...i
guess i should be thankful that nobody else had a tape with them!!
you have to look at things from a different angle to appreciate them.

talk to y'all later (nice to know i'm using it in it's correct form
seffy!!)

love helene

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from:         anchalee mahasaen <mahasaen@acs.bu.edu>
subject:      re: make it easier chords.
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in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.960225214710.19376c-100000@wisdom.stanford.edu>

scot,
   i've played this a bit, i can help out with this as well :)

ann

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1/2 of cats on fire

don't forget to visit the cats on fire home page at:
http://minerva.cis.yale.edu/~kath/cof/cofpage.html
*pictures, sounds, and words -- wow!*

order your cats on fire t-shirts and tapes now! :)

...sleep, what's that?

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on mon, 26 feb 1996, anchalee mahasaen wrote:

> scot,
>    i've played this a bit, i can help out with this as well :)
>
> ann


that's my keener of a roommate :)  and might i add...she's got it down
quite well.  it sounds great coming from the room next door when i'm
going to sleep...now, if i could just get her to play a little more mellow
emily stuff to put me to sleep a little faster ;)  can y'all (i'm still
learning...am i allowed to use it that way?) help me out
here a bit and start placing requests for the likes of ghost and the wood
song?  it'd make for a very happy and well-rested karen :)

see ya bom bye (obligatory newfie-ism for those of you who have the
foggiest what that means),
k.

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from:         ".  thanks." <waviness@aol.com>
subject:      re: budweiser voice id

           alycia wrote:

>i was watching the bulls vs. magic game (go bulls) and a budweiser
commercial >came on over the airwaves.  the commerical featured the
clydesdales (sp?) >running through the snow and the voice of a woman singing
"wild horses" by the >rolling stones.  i could not identify the woman's voice
and it is driving me crazy.

             the song is on the album "blind" by the sundays. the women
singing is
harriet wheeler. it is an excellent album. i wasn't thrilled about them
lending it
for a commercial. can you imagine amy and emily doing that? <---new
thread alert. whoop whoop.

               i would also like to second ben's recommendation of  "the
great subconscious club" by k's choice. and i think jean and gert are cute,
too.<g>

                                                        dave ridder

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: budweiser voice id
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              at feb 26, 96 1:09 pm

> it is an excellent album. i wasn't thrilled about them
> lending it
> for a commercial. can you imagine amy and emily doing that? <---new
> thread alert. whoop whoop.

oooohh this could be a dangerous thread...

        "crazy game" for "krazy glue"  (and now you couldn't tear me away...)
        "chickenman" for kentucky fried chicken
        "pushing the needle to far" for any car commercial
        "closer to pine" for pine sol

fortunately i'm about to leave for munich so i won't be able to see the
aftermath.... ;)

                                laters folks =)

                                    chris

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from:         jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      re: dead mans hill

i am new to posting on this list although i have been hiding in the
sahdows for quite some time.  i didn't have the urge to post until
now (i am kinda shy ya know).
anyways, enough about me...about the story behind dead mans hill, i
remember reading an interview in a paper where amy told a little
about the song.  it is a glimpse back into the their choldhood.  in
the one part talking about the cats on fire, i guess amy actually
witnessed this happening and she said that it was rather traumatic.
well, that's about all that i know, but i hope that it helps!
if anyone is from the chicago area, i go to school at loyola and
always am looking for good new music and concerts coming to town.  if
any one has any suggestions of local bands or hot spots please let me
know!
tanks for bearing with me!
jj
"i wish i were a trinity so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live"-emily sailers

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subject:      1/2-nigc baez in chicago

for all of you joan baez fans out there, who happen to live in chicago (greg, jj, jennifer... more?).

joan baez will be signing her new cd (featuring the ig) at borders books and music, located on michigan avenue, tomorrow (february 27, 1996) at 12:00 pm.

i'll be there, cd in hand and really excited!!!

alycia


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but i got caught up in the whirl and the twirl of it all
a day in the sun dancing alone
baby i'm so sorry
                                               - amy ray

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subject:      ig opened for gd

does anyone have a copy of the show that ig opened for the dead?  i'm very
interested in getting some live ig, especially that one.  also, is there
any info out yet about the newport folk fest?  thanks ya'll, walstib

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subject:      what movies are ig featured in?

i have been looking for movies in which the indigo girls are featured.  i can
think of boys on the side, but what are some other movies?  on a related note,
in which movies has their music been featured or have they performed music?

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subject:      cat bathing as a martial art (nigc)

i saw this one another mailing list and thought i'd post it. there has
to be a few cat owners in ig-land.


                         cat bathing as a martial art
                               by bud herron

some people say cats never have to be bathed. they say cats lick
themselves clean.  they say cats have a special enzyme of some sort in
their saliva that works like new, improved wisk - dislodging the dirt
where it hides and whisking it away.

i've spent most of my life believing this folklore. like most blind
believers,  i've been able to discount all the facts to the contrary -
the kitty odors that lurk in the corners of the garage and dirt
smudges that cling to the throw rug by the fireplace.

the time comes, however, when a man must face reality; when he must
look squarely in the face of massive public sentiment to the contrary
and announce: "this cat smells like a port-a-potty on a hot day in
juarez."

when that day arrives at your house, as it has in mine, i have some
advice you might consider as you place your feline friend under you
arm and head for the bathtub:

* know that although the cat has the advantage of quickness and lack
  of concern for human life, you have the advantage of strength.
  capitalize on that advantage by selecting the battlefield. don't try
  to bathe him in an open area where he can force you to chase him. pick
  a very small bathroom. if your bathroom is more than four feet square,
  i recommend that you get in the tub with the cat and close the sliding
  -glass doors as if you were about to take a shower. (a simple shower
  curtain will not do. a berserk cat can shred a three-ply rubber shower
  curtain quicker than a politician can shift positions.)

* know that a cat has claws and will not hesitate to remove all the
  skin from your body. your advantage here is that you are smart and
  know how to dress to protect yourself. i recommend canvas overalls
  tucked into high-top construction boots, a pair of steel-mesh gloves,
  an army helmet, a hockey face mask and a long-sleeve flak jacket.

* prepare everything in advance. there is no time to go out for a
  towel when you have a cat digging a hole in your flak jacket.  draw
  the water. make sure the bottle of kitty shampoo is inside the glass
  enclosure. make sure the towel can be reached, even if you are lying
  on your back in the water.

* use the element of surprise. pick up your cat nonchalantly, as if to
  simply carry him to his supper dish. (cats will not usually notice
  your strange attire. they have little or no interest in fashion as a
  rule. if he does notice your garb, calmly explain that you are taking
  part in a product-testing experiment for j.c. penney.)

* once you are inside the bathroom, speed is essential to survival. in
  a single liquid motion, shut the bathroom door, step into the tub
  enclosure, slide the glass door shut, dip the cat in the water and
  squirt him with shampoo. you have begun one of the wildest 45 seconds
  of your life. cats have no handles.

  add the fact that he now has soapy fur, and the problem is radically
  compounded.  do not expect to hold on to him for more that two or
  three seconds at a time.  when you have him, however, you must
  remember to give him another squirt of shampoo and rub like crazy.
  he'll then spring free and fall back into the water, thereby rinsing
  himself off. (the national record is - for cats - three latherings,
  so don't expect too much.)

* next, the cat must be dried. novice cat bathers always assume this
  part will be the most difficult, for humans generally are worn out at
  this point and the cat is just getting really determined. in fact, the
  drying is simple compared to what you have just been through. that's
  because by now the cat is semi-permanently affixed to your right leg.
  you simply pop the drain plug with your foot, reach for your towel and
  wait. (occasionally, however, the cat will end up clinging to the top
  of your army helmet. if this happens, the best thing you can do is to
  shake him loose and to encourage him toward your leg.)  after all the
  water is drained from the tub, it is a simple matter to just reach
  down and dry the cat.

in a few days the cat will relax enough to be removed from your leg.
he will usually have nothing to say for about three weeks and will
spend a lot of time sitting with his back to you. he might even become
psychoceramic and develop the fixed stare of a plaster figurine.

you will be tempted to assume he is angry. this isn't usually the
case. as a rule he is simply plotting ways to get through your
defenses and injure you for life the next time you decide to give him
a bath. but, at least now he smells a lot better.
:)

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  date: mon, 26 feb 1996 14:55:42 -0600 (cst)
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  subject: no igc....just responding and commenting

  angie in kc: next time you see the guy with the repent sticker....
  follow him until you both stop at a really long streetlight...
  then jump out of your car, replace his sticker with a "hate is not a
  family value" sticker and jump back in your car and haul-ass....
  hehehehehhehehe :)

  alycia: thanks for reminding me of "fugitive"
  i first bought swamp ophelia in ohio and was sitting on the beach in a
  child's swing listening to fugitive for the first time and i kept
  rewinding the tape to listen to it a bunch of times....after five times
  i knew all the words and was swinging and singing and just havin' a
  good old time....it was at night and the stars were out *sighs*
  it was just a wonderful night....i almost felt like dancing naked
  in the sand myself but i prolly would've been busted by the mp's
  (military police...monkey patrol....you pick)
  thanks.... :)


  about cameras at ig's concert:
  i have a minolta camera with about three lenses that i could hook up
  and get a close up shot of ig from prolly a mile away...anybody know
  a tall building near the new orleans jazz fest? ;)
  why couldn't we bring cameras if we signed some sort of document
  saying we wouldn't use these pictures as some means of profit
  i just want something cool to hang up on my wall! *whines*
  anyway....

  thanks for listening to my babbling....
  sal-ray :)
  y'all have a good day

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subject:      scrapbook part 2

hi y'all. i am very psyched that so many folks are into the scrapbook
idea....

i would be happy to make copies of the whole thing when it is done for people
who want to see it...for the cost of copying which shouldn't be a big whoop.

i am not keen to the whole scanning/web page idea because a)i don't have access to a scanner
b) i don't have access to a web site
c) i am resigning my job in june and don't want to set up a web site i
have to leave

hope that's cool with everyone (the copying idea). get crackin!

susan

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subject:      new orleans jazz fest

        is anybody in the group planning to attend?  i just moved to
        the n.o. area and would like to hook up with people.  plan to attend
        both night and day concerts.  also, any rumors when tickets go on
        sale.

        thanks
        sylvia

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subject:      mtv book.....

before i say anything else, can i just third the recommendation of k's
choice's album.  thank you.
right, down to the real business.  i was in my local friendly bookshop
ages ago and happened across a load of copies of an mtv unplugged book.
in it they've got a miniscule (but mightily good all the same) photo of
amy & emily, as well as a tiny, incy tincy bit about their show.  just
thought i'd pass it on.  the book costs a fortune, so you might just want
to pay a visit to your local friendly bookshop and have a look at it and
leave it at that.
anyway, i meant to say that ages ago but mardi gras (thank you very much,
but never again) and flu (sympathy please) got in the way.

bye for now,

rebecca.

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subject:      re: dead man's hill
x-to:         river city news <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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dead man's hill was the first time that amy ray saw "real evil."  some
high school guys (i guess that she was still little) actually lit a cat
on fire...  needless to say, it, like, scarred her for life...   that's
about all i know.  you can figure out a lot more after you know this and
listen cloisely to the lyrics...
speaking of the durham/chapel hill area... i go to elon college
(burlington, nc)  its a small world...
l, mandy

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subject:      hey jesus

a few days ago, jack mitchell commented on "hey jesus" and while i'm
a few days late & a song short, i have my own comments....

>and then we call you in our despair
>and you don't come through
>
>the part "...and you don't come through"  i always thought would
piss
>people off.  has anyone heard of people being offended, or are
offended
>themselves?

didn't jacob make a deal with g-d, but he wanted g-d to perform first?
  whenever we want something, we ask the highest power for help and
often pledge goods, services or devotion in return.  maybe we just
need to take bad circumstances with the good in our lives.

i say this because of a situation which happened to my mom this past
week.  she had a retirement investment which was totally lost by the
investor.  it was her main source of retirement.  when she called me
she was upset and bitter at the investor.  although she was a bit
angry at herself for not doing a few things differently, she reminded
herself that it wasn't the end of the world.  no one was sick or had
died.  my mom is hurt and will never be the same, but she didn't ask
g-d for help or a miracle for the loss; rather she appreciated the
miracles g-d already provided.

by the by, is there a difference in the jewish vs. christian
perspective?  as a person of the jewish faith i wonder if jews
respond differently than those looking to jesus for help rather than
seeking g-d's strength from within.

melissa

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subject:      nigc; buchanan

dear mike messner et all....

this weekend you wrote.....

>haven't seen or heard bay buchanan.  my guess is that she is about
as
>scary as pat...more viewpoints?

i can tell you, as a frustrated, registered republican that bay
buchanan is scarier than her brother, pat.

if this country (& the concept of democracy) is based on majority
rules with minority rights, we ought to give the buchanan brigade the
right to populate a state of their very own...say about 200 miles
east of the eastern seaboard.  those without flippers need not apply.
naturally, my politics are fairly centrist (fiscal conservative,
social liberal) and the fact that gop choices are awful to non-
existant is quite frustrating.  i think i'll vote for either pat
paulsen or millard fillmore (or bc, if my own party gives me no
alternative).

also, i just finished watching a great, classic movie, "inherit the
wind" starring spencer tracey and gene kelly.   rent it!  the
parallels are amazing.  it's the story of the scopes/monkey trial
where they proscuted a teacher (dick york of bewitched fame) who
taught the theory of evolution in his class.   the title comes from a
verse in the bible (proverbs) which states, "he that troubleth his
own house shall inherit the wind."   pretty timely considering the
politics of the day.

melissa

melissa

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subject:      what do you guys think

with my mom here for the opera i've been on a cd shopping spree. today i
bought a group called "disappear fear". they're great but i really think
they sound amazingly like ig. every else says that their sound is totally
different but i disagree. what do ya'll think?
ben

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subject:      ig in movieland

dear nicholas et all....

>i have been looking for movies in which the indigo girls are
featured.  i can
>think of boys on the side, but what are some other movies?  on a
related note,
>in which movies has their music been featured or have they performed
music?

i know of two...boys on the side (in movie & music on the soundtrack)
& philadelphia (soundtrack only).  i believe that es has stated she
wants to be more involved in movies.  ar said that she doesn't have
the patience for it.

melissa

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>also, i just finished watching a great, classic movie, "inherit the
>wind" starring spencer tracey and gene kelly.   rent it!  the
>parallels are amazing.  it's the story of the scopes/monkey trial
>where they proscuted a teacher (dick york of bewitched fame) who
>taught the theory of evolution in his class.   the title comes from a
>verse in the bible (proverbs) which states, "he that troubleth his
>own house shall inherit the wind."   pretty timely considering the
>politics of the day.

better still, get a copy of the hallmark hall of fame version.  it's much
better imho.  it has kirk duglass and jason robards in it.  great
production, great acting, and i believe that it is out on video. any way,
it's an amazing play/movie no matter what version you get.  if it is ever
performed in your area, go and see it.


jack

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subject:      total nigc-non american protest music

well for my research paper this year i am writing about music as
protest...only catch is that i cannot use american artists, so this is a call
to anyone who can help me locate artists and/or lyrics that are some form of
protest that are nonamerican. thanks a bundle
and please do not waste bandwith with replies...email directly to me
thanks
kate

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subject:      you know you're a obsessed ig fan when....

you're thinking about going back to church.  i was raised a protestant, but
have a methodist church in mind that i'll be moving close to.  i in no way
claim to be "religious",  but i've been told that the methodist and
protestant churches are a lot alike.  is that true??

how's that for an obsessed ig fan??
- jen h.

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in a message dated 96-02-26 19:30:48 est, you write:

>
>with my mom here for the opera i've been on a cd shopping spree. today i
>bought a group called "disappear fear". they're great but i really think
>they sound amazingly like ig. every else says that their sound is totally
>different but i disagree. what do ya'll think?
>ben

i love em!  they do sound like the ig's, i have seen several of their shows
and have almost all their albums.  the live at the bottom line cd is really
good:)
anyway, just my .02.  i met sonja, she is super nice...
chau
take care
rob

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subject:      scrapbook continued

hey y'all. jen hall made a good point in a private email to me: please leave
about an inch (minimum) on the left side of your page for the binding process.
an inch and a half would be ideal, but if you couldn't do it, an inch will
work.

she also suggested people use different colors. that's a great idea, except thatsometimes colored paper doesn't copy well, so we kind of need to decide as a
group if y'all are gonna want copies. if so, colored pens/ink/etc. is fine
but white paper would work best.

let me know what you think!

susan

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subject:      the movie 'priest'

sorry if this is an old topic, but......

i just saw priest today and thought it was *really* amazing.....
anyone else out there see it?

:)

eric

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subject:      question...

i have a question to the divine leader of our merry group (wow, two
posts in one day, i'm on a roll)...after we finish with the strange
fire album which one is next?  just curious!
by the way whoever thought of the song a day thing rules!  i wish i
had some stories to add.
jj
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live!" -emily sailers

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subject:      melanie ebig, last try (nigc)
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does anyone know melanie ebig?  if anyone has her e-mail address (or
melanie, if you are reading this) please e-mail me.  you sent me tapes,
but no e-mail address and no note about what you want.  thanks. :)

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subject:      an indigo day; oops.

julie,  well, between this note and your last note about having amy ray sit
in on your guitar class, i am also completely jealous!!  how often do the
ig do impromptu concerts in atlanta and/or emory u?  do you get to see them
often?  do they play local clubs fairly often?  maybe i need to plan a
vacation out there sometime!
linda

>
>hey y'all
>   everything appears back to normal w/ the # of msgs.  but thanks to all
>of those who wrote me and made suggestions and comments and all that.
>
>    well, y'all are going to shoot me, but guess what i did today?  i saw
>ig, mm, wendy bucklew, and cooper seay play at red light cafe.  they
>might still be playing now.  we were there from 2 til almost 6.  it was
>apparently a surprise concert or something; i heard about it from a
>friend whose sorority sister told her or something.  anyway, it was so
>cool to hear that they're playing and to say, "hey, you wanna go see the
>indigo girls?"  "sure"  "well, let's go."    and we didn't even have to
>pay like $28 to get in.  my friends and i got there an hour early,
>expecting the place to be swarming (b/c word of mouth travels fast), but
>there was barely anyone there.  it was supposed to start at 3 but ended
>up starting closer to four.  by the time they started playing, the place
>was definitely a fire hazard -- it was packed.
>   anyway, the did a writer's type format in which they took turns
>playing: first wendy, then cooper, michelle, amy, emily.  they played
>lots of new stuff.  and *excited grin* amy played "the ballad of
>squeaky frome."  i was so happy b/c my friends and i have tried a zillion
>request methods at every ig concert we've gone to for the past couple of
>years, and she _never_ played it.  so it was the highlight of the show
>imho.  overall, the whole experience pretty much rocked.  i wish y'all
>could've been there.  thought i should share.
>   pax,
>       julie

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subject:      obsessed ig fans, methodist church, etc.

to jennifer hall and others --

actually, the methodist church is a protestant denomination.  although i'm not sure (and
i'm certainly no expert) i think it is similar to the baptist church, although perhaps
not as conservative.  i think there are two main divisions - methodists and united methodists
(which i think may be more common)  i believe the united methodists are less conservative
than regular methodists.  although the methodist church has bishops that preside over
particular geographic areas and a hierarchical/stratified type of church government, they are
more similar to baptist churches in the sense that they basically only observe two
sacraments - baptism and communion (lord's supper), and they believe in the trinity and
in the bible as god's word.  i don't think they are fundamentalist.  i think the methodist
church's (united methodist, that is) general conference lately has been considering
some more liberal/controversial issues, as have the episcopal and presbyterian churches.
we tend to hear more about that stuff here in nashville cause this is the headquarters
for the religious book publishing industry.  the united methodist publishing house and
their associated bookstores are located here.  i'd be happy to see what literature or
statement of faith-type papers i could find for you regarding the united methodist church.
as i said, i'm certainly no expert - i'm just telling you what i know about the church
and/or believe to be the case. hope this helps a little bit...

peace,

joan :) (a "cradle" southern baptist who defected to the episcopal church:)

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subject:      laura giaretto (nigc)

i received the tape you sent me, but you didn't tell me what you
wanted me to record and i don't have your email address either.
please email me.

dimitra

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subject:      re: total nigc-non american protest music
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kate wrote, 26th feb,

well for my research paper this year i am writing about music as
protest...only catch is that i cannot use american artists, so this is a call
to anyone who can help me locate artists and/or lyrics that are some form of
protest that are nonamerican. thanks a bundle
and please do not waste bandwith with replies...email directly to me
thanks
kate


have a look at the levellers...they're an english band who have  *a
lot* to say!  i think you'll find most of their songs are a protest
in some way or another.  also, the cranberries have a few protest
songs re: the ira and the impact of 'war' on ireland.

if you need a taping, let me know ok

love helene

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subject:      latest on indigo originals

hey :)

well, due to unforseen circumstances (i.e. a car on
the wrong side of the road colliding with ours...)
i've not been around this last couple of weeks...

(the jaw broken in two places, fractured cheekbone and
skull, and broken bones in the ear have kind of not
made me feel that great, funnily enough...but i'm just
playing for sympathy now...)

so apart from now, as i'm picking up my first change
of clothes in two weeks, i'm not going to be around
for another two weeks, at which time i'll start
sorting my life out, like the igs origs tape...

so patience mes amis,..i think i'll just send off my
masters (that are sitting in my room, done, to jude,
'cause she offered :) poor lass...and take a back
seat...if that's still ok with you jude...)

and i _will_ sort out the money for the cover tape
as well margaret...one day...

oh and catch up on classes too, but that's by the by..

so, i'll sort out all the reminding email from the
1000 (yes, 1000. at least) junk igslist messages when
i'm back for good...

*starts singing take that song*

it's ok, my humour was unaffected, which might be a
good or a bad thing, depending...

get well cards, flowers, money, chocolates (for when i
get off the liquid diet) to the usual address :):)

cheers!
and take care...

and sorry for the selfish bandwidth, but hey, i'm in
no mood to care :):)

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subject:      neily's tape

i'll let everyone know when i get neily's tape...anyone who wants to be in on
the tree, please email me...

*<wishes for neily's speedy recovery>*


jude

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subject:      nigc - dar's diner

i'm not very familiar with dar williams, so excuse me if the following is
common knowledge - i really must get round to buying one of her albums.

i've just seen an article in a uk musicians magazine called making music,
about where to eat when you're road-tripping round the states.  the author
casually mentions that there's a book by musician dar williams which lists
over 700 places for good healthy food on the road.   may come in useful for
you lucky bunnies travelling to new orleans and newport!  the address to get
hold of the book is:  ardwork, po box 814, northampton, ma, 01061-0814, tel:
1 800 862 8246. (from the way the author writes it sounds like dar answers
the phone herself???)

happy eating,
*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************
(who appropriately enough just happens to be listening to blue food for the
first time :)  thanks bonnie!)

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subject:      k's choice and cameras

hello everybody

here is another message from someone that has been lurking for quite some=
time now! there have been a few comments on the list that i wanted to re=
spond to.=20
first k's choice. i noticed that you, americans, are starting to discover=
this belgian band. they just brought out a second cd: paradise in me, wh=
ich will be released soon in the us. i think it is great. some of you mus=
t have seen them opening for ig, while they were touring the east coast w=
ith them in 1994. what did you think of their performance? k's choie cons=
ists of brother and sister gert and sarah and they are getting very popul=
ar overhere in holland (that where i am from), but are still fairly unkno=
wn. sarah is an ig fan herself; she has mentioned a and e as her examples=
in interviews.

the first time i saw (and heard) k's choice was at an ig concert. i have =
seen ig several times perform in holland. here they still play at very sm=
all venues, which are not even sold out!!! you're even allowed to take pi=
ctures - no problem! i have taken my camera to a concert once and got som=
e nice shots. still i do't think it's worth it to bring a camera along ne=
xt time; i'd rather enjoy the music!

groetjes,

christel

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hi yall,

after around nine months absence, i am back on the list! ihave missed you
all...especially when 1200 curfews came out and i had a jillion
thoughts....anyways i can only assume you're still discussing it and so i can
still jump in somewhere....glad to be back!

fondly,

larissa brown

formerly both virginia@ella.mills.edu and candi@resort.com

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     back, back, back !!

     hellooooooo again to the ig list !!!! <bg>

     i've been off the 'net for sometime now after an office move at the
     beginning of february and even now i still can't 'surf'....but our
     office e-mail (lotus cc:mail) has a connection to compuserve so i can
     send and receive e-mail at least !!

     so, whats the story with the new orleans / newport festivals ??  any
     news to cheer me up ?

     any other gig news / tv appearances gratefully received.

     ttfn

     gail (formerly 100064.3337@compuserve.com)

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subject:      (fwd) re: total nigc-non american protest music

forwarded message:
from:     self <sperrin/hb>
to:       multiple recipients of list indigo-girls              <indigo-girls@netspace.org>,dresden5@aol.com
subject:  re: total nigc-non american protest music
reply-to: h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
date:     tue, 27 feb 1996 08:35:00

kate wrote, 26th feb,

well for my research paper this year i am writing about music as
protest...only catch is that i cannot use american artists, so this is a call
to anyone who can help me locate artists and/or lyrics that are some form of
protest that are nonamerican. thanks a bundle
and please do not waste bandwith with replies...email directly to me
thanks
kate


have a look at the levellers...they're an english band who have  *a
lot* to say!  i think you'll find most of their songs are a protest
in some way or another.  also, the cranberries have a few protest
songs re: the ira and the impact of 'war' on ireland.

if you need a taping, let me know ok

love helene

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subject:      sigc help on album picks...

for the life of me i can't remember the conversation.  someone a month or so
ago wanted opinions concerning two possible albums.  one was joan baez.  what
ws the other?  the reason i ask is that i'm thinking of buying nancy
griffith's album, flyer.  it's got the ig's on it as well as rem, counting
crows, and u2.  i was wondering if anyone had any opinions about the album
before i shell out the bucks.  of course i know that i can just go to hmv and
listen to it, but it's much more fun this way, and now (hopefully) i'll get
tons of personal e-mail so i can think i'm really cool (*wink*)
thanks for thehelp in advance,
alex

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from:          alex scherer tue, 27 feb 1996 09:49:33 -0500

for the life of me i can't remember the conversation.  someone a month or so
ago wanted opinions concerning two possible albums.  one was joan baez.  what
ws the other?  the reason i ask is that i'm thinking of buying nancy
griffith's album, flyer.  it's got the ig's on it as well as rem, counting
crows, and u2.  i was wondering if anyone had any opinions about the album
before i shell out the bucks.  of course i know that i can just go to hmv and
listen to it, but it's much more fun this way, and now (hopefully) i'll get
tons of personal e-mail so i can think i'm really cool (*wink*)
thanks for thehelp in advance,
alex


the flyer is a brilliant album...i'm a bit of a major ng fan...ig
sing backing vocals on a couple of songs on the album...mainly...and
most noticeably on these days in an open book...true ig
harmonies...totally cooool!!  yes...definately a wise choice, as i
expect you'll realise after a few email replies!

love helene

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subject:      read this if i am taping iwtoc for you please!

hi all.

okay, here's the deal. in my marathon dubbing session, there are a few
people who i am not sure if i have sent tapes to already or not. so, i need
these people to send me an email and jog my memory please!

chad maloney
nicole anderson
joan morrison
kate ransom-walsh
sue harney

the reason i am not sure is because i didn't think i had sent connie lindell
a tape, and i had! whoa! something got screwed up in my filing process.

if you haven't gotten one (and you would have by now) let me know asap and
i'
will get them out in the mail tomorrow.

sorry y'all...i'm not usually this scattered! it's been a crazy time in my
life but i'm gettin my shit together, truly.

thanks and take care,
susan
p.s. jim seidel, your tape went out yesterday :)

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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on 27 feb 96 at 9:49, alex scherer wrote:

> for the life of me i can't remember the conversation.  someone a month or so
> ago wanted opinions concerning two possible albums.  one was joan baez.  what
> ws the other?  the reason i ask is that i'm thinking of buying nancy
> griffith's album, flyer.  it's got the ig's on it as well as rem, counting
> crows, and u2.  i was wondering if anyone had any opinions about the album
> before i shell out the bucks.  of course i know that i can just go to hmv and
> listen to it, but it's much more fun this way, and now (hopefully) i'll get
> tons of personal e-mail so i can think i'm really cool (*wink*)
> thanks for thehelp in advance,
> alex


alex,

this is a pretty good album, i don't own it (yet), but i have heard
it. the nanci griffith album i love is other voices other rooms. a
really terrific album. no ig, but lots of great songs by some of
nanci griffith's favorite songwriters. well worth checking out, imho.


peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
                                  -david st. hubins
'
                    "these go  up to eleven"
                                   -nigel tufnel

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subject:      anti cencorship project (fwd)
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              sage j." <x9iz@music.stlawu.edu>,
              "holroyde, monica e." <x9g2@music.stlawu.edu>

hi there friends.  i just wanted you to also take part in this little
experiment, though i am not very fond of fowards.  just read through it,
and decide if you want to take part as well.  the present government
officials who approved this kind of limit of rights should be admonished
to say the least.  well, have a super day-- anyone else feeling a little
spring fever??????                       jess
---------------------------hey everyone!!!--------------------------
if you've already gotten this, sorry, but i'm afraid that most people in
the u.s. don't realize they are currently living under an
unconstitutional law.  the cda is a clear violation of the bill of
rights, and if we give up one right, we might as well give them all up.
i urge you to take part in this and in other protests against the
communications decency act.  also, if you're active on the net, check out
the electronic frontiers foundation.  let's remind the little boys
playing politics in washington that this is not their country, and they
work for us.

bill iv

(fwd from release@evanville.edu):

> >to whomever may read this:
> >
> >this is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as many
> >people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become the
> >world's biggest practical joke. the u.s. government has recently passed an
> >act which enforces censorship on the internet. a group of internet users has
> >now come together to kick back at this oppression, and have a bit of fun
> >at the same time.
> >  the aim of this exercise is to re-establish the united states as "the
> >land of the free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and
> >thought are curtailed. on receiving this letter, please pass it on to as
> >many friends or e-mail lists as you can. we predict that if everybody
> >copies the letter to 5 other addresses, by february 29th 1996, this
> >letter should have reached in excess of 2 million people. that's when the
> >fun begins........
> >
> >on february 29th, please send the message below to the white house!!!!
> >
> >enclose the pre-typed copy of the bill of rights. by
> > sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to
> > one huge petition for freedom (which may lead to an unintended crash
> >of  the whitehouse server!!!!)...  send all letters to:
> >
> >  president@whitehouse.gov
> >
> >  remember that solidarity is the key to success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >dear mr. president,
> >
> >do you remember this:
> >
> >    amendment i
> >
> >    congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
> >speech, or
> >of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
> >assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
> >
> >    amendment ii
> >
> >    a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free bear
> >arms, shall not be infringed.
> >
> >   amendment iii
> >
> >    no soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the
> >consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
> >prescribed by
> >law.
> >
> >amendment iv
> >
> >    the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
> >papers, and
> >effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not violated,
> >and no
> >warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
> >affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
> >persons or things to be seized.
> >
> >   amendment v
> >
> >    no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise crime,
> >unless
> >on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury,
> >in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia when in
> >actual
> >service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
> >person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
> >life or
> >limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against
> >himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due
> >process of
> >law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just
> >compensation.
> >
> >   amendment vi
> >
> >    in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
> >speedy
> >and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
> >district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
> >shall have
> >been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and
> >cause
> >of the accusation; to be confronted with the
> >witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in
> >his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
> >
> >   amendment vii
> >
> >    in suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
> >twenty
> >dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried
> >by a
> >jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of
> >the united states, than according to the rules of the common law.
> >
> >
> >   amendment viii
> >
> >     excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
> >cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
> >
> >    amendment ix
> >
> >    the enumeration in the constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
> >construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
> >
> > amendment x
> >
> >    the powers not delegated to the united states by the constitution,  nor
> >prohibited to it by the states are  reserved to the states respectively,
> >or to
> >the people.
> > -------------------------------------
> >
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> ...i'm afraid that most people in
> the u.s. don't realize they are currently living under an
> unconstitutional law.

are you kidding!?  there are more unconstitutional laws than can be counted.

trant

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on tue, 27 feb 1996, dan perkins wrote:

> this is a pretty good album, i don't own it (yet), but i have heard
> it. the nanci griffith album i love is other voices other rooms. a
> really terrific album. no ig, but lots of great songs by some of
> nanci griffith's favorite songwriters. well worth checking out, imho.

actually, amy and emily are on "other voices other rooms" - they're part
of the group that sings wimowee (or however you spell it). check your
liner notes. :)

best,
kristina

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subject:      united methodist church

just a little info on the united methodist church.  i work in the north alabama
conference headquarters here in birmingham, so i thought i'd give a little
info.  first of all, let me please make it clear that the united methodist
church is not similar to the baptist church.  although we do believe
in the trinity and the sacrament of communion, our social principles
are entirely different from the baptists.  the methodist church is
inclusive.  methodist ministers will not tell you what to believe or
think, but rather they will guide you to your own understanding of the
scripture.  as far as our social standpoints, we are anti-war and against
the death penalty.  the best thing about the united methodist church is our
unity.  although we are diverse, we are united by a deep belief in the
christian lifestyle.
  if you would like more information, please e-mail me your address and i will
be happy to send you some brochures.

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subject:      nigc: computer humor

hi y'all

sorry for the no ig content, but i thought this was worth sharing.

here is a little computer humor a friend forwarded to me. thought
some of y'all might get a laugh out of it.

peace,

dan

when i went to college in the 1980's, i heard a lot of words like "data
input" and "beta version".   they confused me.  i wanted desparately to know
what people were talking about, what big secret resided in the computer
industry.

now that i've worked for a computer company for the last few years, i've
gained an insider's perspective.  i decided to share my knowledge with the
uninitiated by creating the following brief, handy glossary:

alpha.  software undergoes alpha testing as a first step in getting user
feedback.  alpha is latin for "doesn't work."

beta. software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released.  beta is
latin for "still doesn't work".

computer.  instrument of torture.  the first computer was invented by roger
"duffy" billingsley, a british scientist.  in a plot to overthrow adolf
hitler, duffy disguiesed himself as a german ally and offered his invention
as a gift to the surly dictator.  the plot worked.  on april 8, 1945, hitler
became so enraged at the "incompatible file format" error message that he
shot himself.  the war ended soon after hitler's death, and duffy began
working for ibm.

cpu.  central propulsion unit.  the cpu is the computer's engine.  it
consists of a hard drive, an interface card and a tiny spinning wheel that's
powered by a running rodent - a gerbil if the machine is a 286, a ferret if
it's a 386, and a ferret on speed if it's a 486.

default directory.  black hole.  default directory is where all files that
you need disappear to.

error message.  terse, baffling remark used by programmers to place blame on
users for the program's shortcomings.

file.  a document that has been saved with an unidentifiable name.  it helps
to think of a file as something stored in a file cabinet - except when you
try to remove the file, the cabinet gives you an electric shock and tells
you the file format is unknown.

hardware.  collective term for any computer-related object that can be
kicked or battered.

help.  the feature that assists in generating more questions.  when the help
feature is used correctly, users are able to navigate through a series of
help screens and end up where they started from without learning anything.

input/output.  information is input from the keyboard as intelligible data
and output to the printer as unrecognizable junk.

interim release.  a programmer's feeble attempt at repentance.

memory.  of computer components, the most generous in terms of variety, and
the skimpiest in terms of quantity.

printer.  a joke in poor taste.  a printer consists of three main parts: the
case, the jammed paper tray and the blinking red light.

programmer. computer avenger.  once a member of that group of high school
nerds who wore tape on their glasses, played dungeons and dragons, and
memorized star trek episodes; now millionaires who create "user-friendly"
software to get revenge on whoever gave them noogies.

reference manual.  object that raises the monitor to eye level. also used to
compensate for that short table leg.

scheduled release date.  a carefully calculated date determined by
estimating the actual shipping date and subtracting six months from it.

user-friendly.  of or pertaining to any feature, device or concept that
makes perfect sense to a programmer.

users.  collective term for those who stare vacantly at a monitor. users are
divided into three types: novice, intermediate, and expert.
  -novice users.  people who are afraid that simply pressing a key might
break their     computer.
  -intermediate users.  people who don't know how to fix their computer
after           they've just pressed a key that broke it.
  - expert users. people who break other people's computers.
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reply-to:     hayben@aol.com
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from:         "benjamin s. hay." <hayben@aol.com>
subject:      re: what do you guys think?

verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
"...i bought [a cd by] a group called "disappear fear". they're great but i
really think
they sound amazingly like ig. every else says that their sound is totally
different but i disagree. what do ya'll think?"

i've been listening to df for about a year now, and seen them in concert
three times (they're local to the dc/baltimore area).

their sound is very different from ig.  they are, however, a pair of
extremely socially conscious women with great voices which complement each
other well.

lyrically, they share some topics, but sonia's lyrics are (i think)
significantly less subtle than a&e's.

one thing that may suggest a similarity, is that you do actually hear a & e's
voices on df's self-titled cd (backing vocals on three songs).  df has also
opened for ig frequently in this area.

i don't find an amazing similarity between their sounds, but i do find that
when i crave a particular style of music (acoustic, with vocal harmonies, or
socially conscious lyrics, or something like that), the df and ig cds all
come off the shelf at the same time.

just my thougts...
neb
hayben@aol.com

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subject:      obsessed fan and an obvious ignorant christian! - part deux

thanks for your input everyone!  growing up, we only went to church on
easter and christmas.  church was "important - - but only on those 2
holidays" (?) (those are my parents words - not mine).  so, i don't have
'really' any experience or knowledge of the protestant faith.  all i know
is that we had our church and there was a methodist church down the street
- but we didn't go to that one.  i was asked which protestant church i was
raised in.  geez...i don't know (ignorance is abundant in me! - can ya
tell?).  congregationalist? ( i remember my mom saying we belonged to a
congregationalist church.  )

oh heck...i don't know.  i have just felt like going back over the last 5
years or so, and because a & e are so positively affected by their belief
in the church, i'd figure i'd go back.

take care y'all
- jen hall

p.s.  for those folks were are devoted christians, please don't take
anything i've written to heart.  i am truly ignorant on this subject, but
am trying to get back on track.  so please, don't be offended by what i've
written or quoted my parents as saying.  thanks!

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subject:      thanks, eh?

hey again, from this fan in canada... just wanted to post a thankyou to all
o' ya who answered my query about the lyrics in dmh... there's so much to
learn!!! ( so much music to collect... compared to you all, i have
nothing... ah well, i know what i like and i've found it. )
..... a willing student; me.
take care... you're a fun bunch to read.
kim in poell river... sweating the threatened crash of her internet server!!!!
kim fischer rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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subject:      tour dates??
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hi all! i'm new to the list and i was wondering if anyone knows the next
time ig will be in chicago. i know they usually play at the metro but
their concerts are usually not publicized well and i end up finding out a
day or two before they're supposed to be here and by then it is too late.
any info would be greatly appreciated! thanks a lot!

jen

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subject:      my replies... sorry nigc

hi once more... it's me... kim... you know - running with scissors?...
anyhow, i was just wondering if anyone out there has gotten a reply from me
to a post they made + the reply contained their entire message,( resulting
in a huge letter that was just too ridiculously long ) when all i meant to
send were bits + snippets of it... if you did... i apologize a lot and will
try to figure out what dumb ( but must be simple ) mistake i'm making.
yikes.
kim fischer rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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subject:      re: question...
x-to:         jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu

in a message dated 96-02-27 00:20:56 est, jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu (jennifer
jaffe) writes:

>
>i have a question to the divine leader of our merry group (wow, two
>posts in one day, i'm on a roll)...after we finish with the strange
>fire album which one is next?  just curious!
>by the way whoever thought of the song a day thing rules!  i wish i
>had some stories to add.
>jj

thanks, jj. i thought that we'd go to indigo girls (the one that starts off
with ctf), since their careers really started to take off at that point. but
i'm open to suggestions!


angie in kc

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subject:      i guess we do need a tour guide! plus song a day schedule.

i wasn't able to get on the net yesterday, and i didn't see any postings
about monday's song, or today's either. here is this week's schedule:

mon: make it easier
tue: you left it up to me
wed: land of canaan
thur: closer to fine !!(now, if i don't see any postings re this song, i'll
know you've lost interest.
fri: secure yourself


weekend: recap of all 5 songs

so, let's hear from everyone!

angie in kc

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subject:      "you left it up to me" day.  we've gotten off the track

ok.  i've made a list of all the songs.  when i get to work, i'll post the
song of the day because it seems many enjoy discussing the songs - but
we're forgetting to do it every day.

today is "you left it up to me" day.  what do we all have to say about it??

- jen h.

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subject:      nigc:need a good quote...

hello everyone....

i have been extremely busy and have not had a chance to post in
awhile...i want to say thank you to ron, who sent me a brand spankin' new
1200c last week when mine got stolen...i lost your address ron, and i
hope you read this.  thank you!!!  i also want to thank everyone who has
reached me via this "information superhighway"...i wish someone would
think up a better name....anyhow.. thank you to everyone for their support!!

okay...also, if i seem a little wacky...i just want to say that i was up
for 56 hours straight last week (midterms...yikes!!), and i am still
trying to recover...hopefully someday i will learn that 15 minutes of a
sleep a night trick--but probably not.

to the point of this letter...

i am writing a paper for my literature eurociv class, and it is about the
role women play in the novel "to the lighthouse" by virginia woolf.  i
don't want to bore you all, but i am talking about lily, a  character in
the book who, through her thoughts, exposes many "radical" ideas about
marriage and children, and how women are defined in society.  i have been
hacking my brain all day, but i can't come up with a suitable ig quote to
start of my paper...any ideas?  it doesn't have to be radical, just a
good quote about being a woman, or having radical ideas.  i don't know.
i hate to put on the pressure, but it's due tomorrow at ten in the
morning, so if anyone thinks of anything off the top of their heads, can
you email me?  i would appreciate it and send you a sloppy wet kiss (my
email, of course...).  anyway, if i'm being selfish or forward, someone
just smack me (my email of course...)

hope to hear from someone....

love
aim

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subject:      you left it up to me

i don't even know what to say about this one...  i just love this song;
it's definitely in my top ten list.  the part at the end where e is going
"you left it up to meeee-eeee-eeee-eeeee-e" always gives me chills.  this
song is one of those that seems to relate to some kind of relationship
that i'm sure many of us have gone through.  it reminds me personally of
dating someone who was unsure of her sexuality and indecisive... in the
song, it sounds like amy was in one of those relationships where both
individuals
string each other along and can never quite see eye to eye but also can
never let go.  well, i think that's all i'm gonna say about it, but
reading the lyrics right now (esp from "everybody else already knows..."
to the end) makes me wanna just say, "grrrrr, get your shtuff together,
girl!"  but maybe it's just me...
  -julie

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subject:      re: you left it up to me

julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu> said:

> ...i just love this song.  it's definitely in my
> top ten list.  the part at the end where e is going
> "you left it up to meeee-eeee-eeee-eeeee-e" always
> gives me chills.

not to be contentious, but to my ears it sounds more
like "you left it up to meeeeee-eee-eeeee-ee-eeeeee..."
amen on the chills.

i-girl

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subject:      re: sigc help on album picks...
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on tue, 27 feb 1996, alex scherer wrote:

> the reason i ask is that i'm thinking of buying nancy
> griffith's album, flyer.  it's got the ig's on it as well as rem, counting
> crows, and u2.  i was wondering if anyone had any opinions about the album
> before i shell out the bucks.

buy it, buy it, buy it.  this album is so warm and personal, you'll think
you've known nanci for years...  how's that for a plug? =)

scot

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on tue, 27 feb 1996, alex scherer wrote:

> for the life of me i can't remember the conversation.  someone a month or so
> ago wanted opinions concerning two possible albums.  one was joan baez.  what
> ws the other?  the reason i ask is that i'm thinking of buying nancy
> griffith's album, flyer.  it's got the ig's on it as well as rem, counting
> crows, and u2.  i was wondering if anyone had any opinions about the album
> before i shell out the bucks.  of course i know that i can just go to hmv and
> listen to it, but it's much more fun this way, and now (hopefully) i'll get
> tons of personal e-mail so i can think i'm really cool (*wink*)
> thanks for thehelp in advance,
> alex

a lot of people say flyer is wonderful but i think its one of her worst
to be honest.   with the exception of this heart and these days in an
open book (featuring amy and emily, the latter doing a particularly
lovely harmony on one bit), the album is really predictable and some of
it is plainly ripped-off, for instance say it isn't so which couples a
tune ripped off the boxer by simon & garfunkel with an indigo girls-by-
numbers arrangement (complete with jerry marotta!).   also it's really
overproduced, the album has about 45 players on it in total and on some
tracks 10 to 15 at a time, which doesn't do a lot of favours to some of
the weaker songs.   i don't recommend it.

mat

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subject:      nanci griffith and jazz fest

this is the first time i've sent a message, but i feel so strongly about
nanci griffith that i had to respond.  i just bought "other voices/other rooms"
and it is incredible.  i'm certain that the album you're planning to purchase
is wonderful.  i think "flyer" is the one with "once in a very blue moon" on
it.  that song pervades my soul.  did anyone happen to catch the special with
ig, mary chapin carpenter, nanci griffith, and somebody gold (i think) that
was on tnn?  if not see if you can find it.

my second point of intrest is jazz fest in new orleans.  i live pretty close,
so i've got to go.  does anyone know the dates or how to get tickets.
rumors are circulating everywhere, and i just don't know what to believe.
so, if anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.

jenna

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universe is unfolding as it should"             -max ehrmann
                                                 desiderata

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subject:      nigc pat buchanan list

i don't want to start this again, but i am doing a project on the bad sides
of buchanan, and accidentaly deledted the list of nasty stuff he has done
that was posted. if someone could email it to me it would be great. after
tomarrow it won't matter so don't worry about it.

thanks
kate

please don't think i am using y'all, although from the last two days it looks
that way....sorry..one's got to get through school though

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subject:      the indigo girls rock my world.

i am not sure what this e-mail is about, but i am interested in joining a discussion or mail
service to discuss how hot amy ray is.
get back to me, okey dokey?

a. plambeck
crms@crms.org

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in one of his first posts, mr. rob taylor announces to the list that he
wants to discuss "how hot amy ray is".

this really pisses me off.  i just thought i would let you all know.  the
last thing i want to do when i log on is read about how "hot" the girls
are, and, quite honestly, i feel like this list is above this.  maybe i'm
just a snootie-feminist bitch...but i guess that is just my opinion.  i'd
feel the same way if someone on the toad the wet sprocket list declared
that they only reason they joined was to talk about how hot their lead
singer is.  talk about shallow.  as far as i am concerned...this list's
purpose is to talk about the girls and how they have influenced us, and i
mean spiritually.  so, rob, if you feel the need to talk about how hot
the are, keep talking to the posters on your wall.  i certainly don't
want to hear about your wet dreams.

constructively,
aim

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from:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
subject:      re: the indigo girls rock my world.

aim said all i would have said, except also this:  it is just inappropriate
to discuss that online in this forum. when you sign on to this list there is
a specific note about not discussing personal lives of amy and emily, i would
certainly add to that that it is equally inappropriate to make objectifying
statements like the one made by rob. tell me if you think i'm totally out of
line here, folks.
-larissa

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subject:      re: the indigo girls rock my world.

i think that the problem is that he is not a member of the list....he just
sent a message to the list without knowing what it was.  someone had a link
that would either send a message to the listserv address or to the list
itself, being the type of person that lacks nettiquette, he just posted
something to the list without  knowing what the heck he was talking about.
therefore he had never seen any of our introductory matereal......he just
succeeded in pissing a lot of people off.


jack


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subject:      re: the indigo girls rock my world.
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in a message dated 96-02-27 22:17:21 est, issy@eworld.com (larissa brown)
writes:

>subj:  re: the indigo girls rock my world.
>date:  96-02-27 22:17:21 est
>from:  issy@eworld.com (larissa brown)
>sender:        indigo-girls@netspace.org (indigo girls mailing list)
>reply-to:      issy@eworld.com
>to:    indigo-girls@netspace.org (multiple recipients of list indigo-girls)
>
>aim said all i would have said, except also this:  it is just inappropriate
>to discuss that online in this forum. when you sign on to this list there is
>a specific note about not discussing personal lives of amy and emily, i
would
>certainly add to that that it is equally inappropriate to make objectifying
>statements like the one made by rob. tell me if you think i'm totally out of
>line here, folks.
>-larissa

i don't necessarily think you're out of line, but i think that we shouldn't
jump to conclusions. "hot" in a musical sense does not mean the same thing as
"hot" in a sexual sense. let's give a newbie a chance to clarify before
raking them over the coals, ok?

angie in kc

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subject:      half moon cafe
in-reply-to:  <199602182114.qaa05224@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at feb 18, 96 04:11:43 pm

hey guys,

saw this when checkin out tab. i've never heard of half moon cafe by em.
what's it off of?

                                thanks,
                                mr. pink

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 22:40:28 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      get off your high horses!!!

hello?

flaming because someone thinks amy is hot - wtf? hello? i have read soooo
much worse that post was meant as it was, simple, big deal if the person
has a crush on amy or emily, get over it, it really isnt delving into their
personal lives, i could see some extreme circumstances, but a beginning
post? catch a ride on the clue train, how many other people have posted i
have a crush on ... posts.

*i* still have a crush on emily!
mike r.

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 22:46:25 -0500
reply-to:     cardigan <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
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from:         cardigan <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
subject:      re: the indigo girls rock my world.
x-to:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
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on tue, 27 feb 1996, larissa brown wrote:
. tell me if you think i'm totally out of
> line here, folks
in regards to rob taylors remarks concerning the "amy ray is hot" part of
his message.  larissa, obviously i am in agreement...what about everyone
else?

aim

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 21:48:47 -0600
reply-to:     median cat <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         median cat <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      texans driving to new orleans??

hey ya'll, i was wondering if there were any fellow texans out there who are
driving to new orleans and would consider adding me to their carpool, or
even let me caravan with them in my own car.  i've recently had a change of
travel plans, and now it looks like i'll be driving, but i'd prefer not to
have to make the drive alone, especially with the car i drive.  i live in
bryan/college station, but i'd be willing to drive to a number of major
texas cities in order to meet up with other fans making the drive to new
orleans.  any help would be greatly appreciated, and sorry for taking up
bandwith with this personal request......

peace,
cylinda
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu                "...is it wise or lazy, holding tight
                                             to what you've known"
                                                    -cheryl wheeler

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 20:05:29 -0800
reply-to:     "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: get off your high horses!!!

>flaming because someone thinks amy is hot - wtf? hello? i have read soooo
>much worse that post was meant as it was, simple, big deal if the person
>has a crush on amy or emily, get over it, it really isnt delving into their
>personal lives, i could see some extreme circumstances, but a beginning
>post? catch a ride on the clue train, how many other people have posted i
>have a crush on ... posts.

hear, hear!!  talk about over-reactions!

and besides i think that glen phillips (lead singer of toad the wet
sprocket) is very hot.  i'd be willing to discuss that with someone any day
(obviously i don't mean on this list, though).  does that make me shallow?
guess so.

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"wasn't it you who said love was useless?
hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
- peter stuart (dog's eye view)

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 22:03:19 cst
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from:         lisa hardaway <lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu>
subject:      re: you left it up to me
x-to:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>

          i'll go along with julie.  i am kind of in one of those
          right now.  i don't think she is really sure what she wants.
           i wish she would hurry up.  i try and leave all sexual
          decisions up to her because we both know what i want.
          slowly but surely...she is beginning to let go.

          towanda

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 20:13:30 -0800
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from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      shawn colvin, liutm day

hey y'all!

i was listening to sc's fat city this weekend, and i started to think about
the discussion of inter-connectedness among some of the cooler artists out
there.  i know of another one.  on fat city, shawn sings "kill the
messenger" to jane siberry (just for the record, it is not a love song to
her).  and of course, jane guested on swamp ophelia in a couple of places
(the one that stands out for me is lotk).

oh, and i almost forgot liutm day!!  my favorite of off sf (and i rarely
pick favorites).  just gotta love that sentiment.  i have an ex who backed
me into a corner of sorts and then got mad when i let go.  i love to belt
this one out!!  and i just think the way the song ties up at the end with

"when it was up to you (when it was up to you)
you left it up to me"

and then all those cool harmonies and stuff building up after that.
definitely a high point!!

well, i am gonna go talk to someone about how hot glen phillips is.
whatever you do, don't dive in - we'll be at the shallow end.  :-)

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"wasn't it you who said love was useless?
hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
- peter stuart (dog's eye view)

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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 20:29:58 -0800
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subject:      re: the indigo girls rock my world.
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on tue, 27 feb 1996, cardigan <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu> wrote:
>on tue, 27 feb 1996, larissa brown wrote:
>. tell me if you think i'm totally out of
>> line here, folks
>in regards to rob taylors remarks concerning the "amy ray is hot" part of
>his message.  larissa, obviously i am in agreement...what about everyone
>else?
>
>aim
>
um, *with trembling voice, not wanting to step on toes or anything* i think that
the point is that all this guy said was that amy is hot. i mean, he didn't
really mention liking the music or anything else... just that. i think that
christian bale is the hottest guy in the world, but the more important fact is
that he's a talented actor, one of the best, a good & generous person in a world
that's filled with not so good and not so generous people...i definitely
wouldn't send a letter to his mailing list and say, god, christian is hot!!!
okay, amy is hot, but there is so much more to amy ray than that and when
someone uses that as their initial comment on amy, rather than saying that amy
ray is a wonderful musician, a generous, socially conscious, amazing woman, that
kind of bothers me. *shrug* just my humble opinion.
i'm shutting up now. :>
ricky ricardo

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       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 20:35:28 -0800
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from:         rick b sayre <rbsayre@interserv.com>
subject:      is it hot in here?

okay, just to clear up my last letter (sorry, i relate everything to christian
bale analogies!) what i mean to say is that when *i* read the letter it seemed
to me that "hot" was all that this person felt amy is and that *i* like to think
that she's much more than that.
:)
rick
(can be as shallow as anybody, believe me!)
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       ** i know what yer thinkin'. did he fire  **
       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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date:         tue, 27 feb 1996 23:39:49 est
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from:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
subject:      you left it up to me

hello...  i hope i didn't miss you left it up to me day.
     i found this to be an incredible song from the first time i heard it--
for a long while i thought the speaker was addressing a lover, or someone
who... from the first lines you could "let you go/cursed myself with empty
hands."  but, the more i thought about it-- the more i came to the conclusion
that amy was addressing an important friend/family member that she had come
out to, and that had not accepted her.  it makes sense with this reading--
     "i finally found someone i can hold/you ask me to defend myself/as if i
shouldn't be so bold..." and earlier in the song "with spiteful eyes you burn
for my grace" and of course "don't be throwing stones, the closer we get, the
harder they come."
     and as for the chorus "you can say that i don't care i don't care..." it
seems to me as if this person is coming back to amy, saying something like "i
forgive you for your sins, and i want to come home" but then amy hears the
"your sins" part and refuses to take the stones that are thrown at her from
within her circle of friends again.  if someone is not going to accept amy
completely, for who she is, then amy will not accept them.
     what does everyone think about this?  i apologize if someone has already
written about it... i tend to be a little active on the "delete" button some
days, and, well, this was one of them.
          take care--
               jessie

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