lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-03a


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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 00:08:49 -0500
reply-to:     angiecies@aol.com
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from:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
subject:      re: dan's soliloquy =) was re: thoughts on a grey day
x-to:         scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu

scot, over the years there are certain songs that just evoke some kind of
feeling in me, whether it's the words, or music, or just the way somthing
kicks in. i would include crowded house' s "don't dream it's over" spandau
ballet's "true", prince (yes, somobody else likes the purple one) purple
rain, phil collins "in the air" (when the drums kick in), hooters  "where do
the children go" and damned yankees "high enough (ted nugent may be an
abosolute jerk, but he does know how to play guitar), i hope i haven't dated
myself too much with this list, it was stuff just off the top of my head.

angie in kc

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date:         thu, 29 feb 1996 21:15:15 -0800
reply-to:     rbsayre@interserv.com
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from:         rick b sayre <rbsayre@interserv.com>
subject:      the best thing you've ever done for me....
in-reply-to:  <53181.25957523@fc.emc.com.ph>

okey dokey- my turn!!
the first time i heard ctf was on 1200 curfews and i just thought "so, this is
the song everyone makes such a big deal about"- i listened to the lyrics and
went- "yeah!!!"- i go through times when i'll just listen to closer to fine over
and over again (thank god for repeat play. or sony.)
somebody (i can't remember who!!!) said that this song is like life!!! needless
to say, i absolutely agree.
:)
rick
employee of
the month :p
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       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 00:25:51 -0500
reply-to:     half pint <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         half pint <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      closer to fine...

hey all..
i just have to put my two cents in on this one.  imagine this:  7 girls,
high school seniors, best friends, and love indigos.  they're all in the
same production of "godspell" at their high school and the dressing room
is always sounding of closer to fine... especially that "i spent 4
years prostrate to the higher mind, i got my paper and i was free!"
it really happened.  *sigh*
also, a late note on land of canaan:  these same 7 girls, all wedged in
a '64 caddie at senior beach week, cruising for guys.  they pop in a mix
tape, and what comes on but, "i'm lonely tonight... i'm missing you
now..."  needless they didn't pick up that many guys...  it really
happened too.  *double sigh*
amy- you know what i'm talking about!....  i never read your note on
land of canaan, would you mind forwarding it to me?  l, mandith

-mandy

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date:         thu, 29 feb 1996 22:22:30 -0800
reply-to:     michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: ctfday
x-to:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
in-reply-to:  <9602291529.aa13287@amy>

i first heard ctf while working at a summer camp in monterey, ca a few
years ago.  one of my friends played it to me on his guitar and suggested
that we record it.  i was hooked from the first time he sang it, and we
got it on tape a few days later.

i didn't hear ig do it until later that summer, when i bought the tape
one morning before a long drive from davis to palo alto.  i think i
played it about five times in a row, i was so amazed at it.  still one of
my favorite tunes by *any* band, and one of the few ig songs i can play
fully on guitar (thanks jeff!).

--mike

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 06:16:18 -0600
reply-to:     jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
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from:         jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      signing off...for now(nigc)

sorry to say this (i really don't want to go) but i have to sign off
for the next week.  spring break calls <holding back smile>!  i am
really going to miss reading all of the song stories.  maybe y'all
can fill me in when i get back!
jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 12:16:33 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      secure yourself...for a bumpy ride!!!!!!!!!

hi everybody...i'm having a bad day...got the worst cold ever, feel
like my head's stuffed with cotton wool...and on sunday i have to go
out on fieldwork for a week...oh no...so i'll have to sign to the
digest at the end of the day.  how am i going to cope without the
list for a whole week...and the thought that i may not be able to
listen to any ig is beyond comprehension.  if i've got a bad cold
already, what am i going to be like after a week out west in the
wet and windy wilderness of donegal.  sorry...its become a bit of a
moaning day.
anyway, i guess it must be secure yourself day...was this the one
that was written about amy's cat dying?...can't remember off.  it's
difficult to think about this one when i figure you'll be discussing
loads of others over the next week that probably mean more to me.
don't get me wrong, i love this song...well it's ig isn't it
(!)...but it's not one of the ones that jump inside me and make me
feel like i've been plugged into the mains...i guess i've never
really thought about the words...when i was younger, we had a few
of pets...goldfish, hamster and guinea-pig...and when they died we
buried them in the garden and built a cross for them...i always used
to think about how after a year or so, there would only be bones left
and how neat it would be to dig them up...kind of strange way to look
at things...even though i was brought up going to church every week,
i never thought about them going to heaven...to me they just went
back to the earth.  when i think about the words i can remember of
this song, it kind of says that after dying, you leave the earth and
head toward the light, on a journey to another place.  i'd be really
interested to know what people think about death, heaven and what
happens to us...i guess that's the basis for most religions...that
there is something after life, in whatever form.

ok...enough ramblings...have a fun day wherever you are

love helene

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 07:59:55 -30000
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      laura giaretto (nigc)

hey! i know you're in southern australia but i need a more definative...:)

got your blank for a copy, but do not know *what* you want copied.  please
send me some e-mail.  thanks, jude :)

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 07:25:08 -0600
reply-to:     carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
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from:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
subject:      tape tree

hi

thanks to everyone who volunteered, we have got the tree set up now and
should be ready to start offering tapes in the next week or two.

take care

carolyn

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 08:37:05 est
reply-to:     angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
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from:         angie <amimpez1@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
organization: university of louisville
subject:      re: ctfday
in-reply-to:  message of thu, 29 feb 1996 09:29:25 -0600 from
              <twb@zycor.lgc.com>

i just wanted to share with you all the first time that i hear ctf...i was abou
t 12 or 13 and i was with my mom in a k-mart/wal-mart/target tyoe of store and
we were in their electronics department and forwhatever reason, their video was
on the tvs there...and for the reasons that i know now, i was mesmerized and j
ust stood there watching.

that song was the first that i learned to play on the guitar and that is the on
e that i open all my little jam sessions with.  i love ctf and that song has al
ways meant the world to me and it all rings true to me and my life..

*the best thing youve ever done for me, was to help me take my life less seriou
sly, its only life afterall..*  i say that at least once a day...and it still i
mpacts me

just thought that i would share!

angie

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 08:31:42 -0600
reply-to:     jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
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from:         jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      thanks!!!(nigc)

i forget who it was that said that they were going on a field trip
and had to set their list to digest, but thanks alot.  i had just
unsubscibed this morning and then read the message.  now when i come
back from break i can catch up where i left off!  i am soooooo
excited <big smile>.  i have to fake sick now so i hope y'all have a
good week!
jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live." -emily sailers

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 10:36:02 +1130
reply-to:     __craig cook__ <craig@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>
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from:         __craig cook__ <craig@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>
subject:      ig:  which martins?

which martin acoustics do amy and emily play?

craig cook

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 09:27:54 -0600
reply-to:     nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
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from:         lisa on the prairie <nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>
subject:      closer to fine...

i know that yesterday was ctf day, but i'm usually a day late and a dollar
short so i'm going to post today.  :)  i listen to this song and my feet
start tapping and my soul starts singing!  there's something about it that
just excites me.

last spring i was coaching with my best friend from college and several
days a week we would drive up to practice with the windows down and the
stereo cranked and singing ctf at the top of our lungs.  :)  one night we
sat down and discussed the song and the lyrics and what they meant to each
of us.  it was very cool and her comment to me about the song was that i
need to look past the "went to the bar at 3:00 am..." verse to the next
lines about being "twice as cloudy as the night before..".  :)  it was her
way of telling me to look to the children and the mountains and everyplace
else for clarity.

lisa
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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 10:47:09 -0500
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      happy birthday!!!   (march 1, 1996)
x-cc:         nmpiche@christa.unh.edu

happy 20th nicole!!!  "...fasten your earthly burdens, you have just
begun..."  beaucoup buckets of birthday bliss !!!!!

nmpiche@christa.unh.edu
"secure yourself"
  :)))

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 11:07:00 -0500
reply-to:     snshne420@aol.com
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from:         snshne420@aol.com
subject:      what is the deal?

hi, how are you doing today?  my name is becca and i am looking for any info
about shows for emily and amy, any tapes of other things i can use.  also i
am lookingfor people to talk with, people you love indigo, please write me
back w/ what this address is all about.

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 11:33:05 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      ctf & all the rest...

i know yesterday was ctf day, but i just wasn't in a posting kind of
mood...  i saw ig for the first time when they opened for rem on the
green tour in 89.  (it was kind of weird b/c they played at the omni,
which is the hugest place for concerts around here, and every time i've
seen them since then it's been in a much smaller place.  anyway...)  so
the next week i went into turtle's after my guitar lesson and i heard ctf
coming over the system there and i remember pointing upward and saying
"that's them! that's them!  that's the tape i'm looking for!"  so anyway
i bought the tape and listened to it 24/7 that spring and summer so that
when i was at an icky camp for 2 weeks w/o music, i realized that i could
actually play the entire album (every little detail of it, too) in my
head.  i swear it's true.  ig really helped me get through that 12th year
of my life.
   as for ctf itself, i'd been playing guitar for about 2 or 3 months
when i got the tape.  ctf was the first song i figured out on my own on
the guitar.  i started singing and playing along w/ the tape and i got
really excited and i thought to myself, "that's it! that's what i want to
do with my life!"  during an era of in which popular music seemed to be
split between cheezy pop stuff and hard core metal, the indigo girls made me
realize a woman with a guitar who writes music can actually exist -- and
succeed in the music world.  (i'd always thought that women folksingers and,
well, folksingers in general, disappeared off the scene before i was born.)
  anywho, 7 years later i'm still determined to make a living as a
singer-songwriter, and i think i  owe my original interest in the
_reality_ of suceeding as an acoustic musician to the indigo girls.
  sorry this msg was kinda long; hope i didn't bore y'all too much...
  -julie

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 12:30:19 -0500
reply-to:     peter council followill <pfollow@emory.edu>
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from:         peter council followill <pfollow@emory.edu>
subject:      competition

        i was wondering the other day: is there or has there ever been
any competition between amy and emily?  does anyone have any stories or
know of any incidents where the two have perhaps have had strong
differences?  i'd be interested to know.  thanks.
-pete

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peter followill-> pfollow@emory.edu-> emory university-> atlanta,ga
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 11:41:28 -0800
reply-to:     miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
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from:         miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
subject:      2 hrs of sleep and wide awake
in-reply-to:  <34076.nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>

        i just wanted to tell everyone that because of this list, i have
gotten to know an amazing person that otherwise i would have probably
never met.  i think as ig fans we all have a small common bond, but i
would have never thought that a whimsical decision to buy a ticket for a
concert 2/3 of the way across the country, would result in a road trip
with four strangers....  anyway, carolyn, i'm really glad that i met you
and i know new orleans will be amazing.
can't wait to meet you all down there!!!

la quinta here we come!

(in two months... so i guess i should calm down for a while.  hell,
that's 8 weeks, 6 exams, 2 papers from now....!)

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 21:49:04 -0500
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         rachel rivera <mtngrl6@aol.com>
subject:      secure yourself

i just realized that i left the "up" out of the birthday quote (oops :] )
  anyway, after reading the lyrics to this song, the line, "allowed to glide
right through the sun, released from circles, guarded tight, now we all are
chosen ones..." reminds me of a book i'm reading called, _medicine woman_ by
lynn v. andrews...she's writing about the seven circles of the dreamers and
how you can move in between them, but not be in them.  only spirits (the
dead) can be in the circles. i'm not sure of the connection but maybe she
means that if you're released from life, you can move freely through all
levels of existence?  either way, i love the imagery of this song!

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 20:41:24 -0500
reply-to:     chousel@grove.ufl.edu
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from:         christine housel <chousel@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      re: 1200c
x-to:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
in-reply-to:  <199602291831.maa23050@access.texas.gov>

on thu, 29 feb 1996, dan perkins wrote:

> i was listening to 1200cs the other day. i love this album!
>
> anyhow i was thinking how cool it is when amy and emily are talking
> to the child up near the front of the stage,.......

yeah, i really love this album too. i get a huge kick out of some of the
conversation between songs....when amy so earnestly says "thanks for
listening!" after language or the kiss, i always find myself smiling and
chuckling and thinkin' "oh, you don't need to be thanking me, or anyone
else in that screaming, happy audience for listening to you! believe me! ha!
our *pleasure* amy--think nothing of it!!" i just think it's cute.

so to add to that "you-know-you're-an-obsessed-ig-fan when..." thread:
you know you're an obsessed ig fan when you not only know all the a & e
conversation between the songs on 1200cs by heart--but also _say_ it along
with them! i'm sure a bunch of y'all do that too. people driving by me
on the road must think i'm crazy....but that's ok.

see ya!

christine

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 18:52:01 -0700
reply-to:     chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
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from:         chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
subject:      re: land of canaan
x-to:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.91.960229115944.1755a-100000@osfb.aber.ac.uk>

hi, all.  rambling again.

> > "i'm a pillar of salt" refers to the story of lot's wife.  apparently the
> > people of sodom and gomorrah (sp) were having gay sex (ohmigod!) among
> > other "abominations" (as most conservative theologians interpret the
> > passage), so lot and his wife, apparently the only holy people left, were
> > instructed to leave the land of canaan, without looking back, so that god
> > could feel justified in destroying the twin sin cities.  but as lot's
> > wife discovered, the penalty for looking back was being turned into a
> > pillar of salt.
>
> wasn't this in walk away though?

yeah, i just put that in as it occured to me because it was loosely
relevant and stuck in my head . . . .

yours,
chris

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 22:01:49 +1130
reply-to:     __craig cook__ <craig@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>
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from:         __craig cook__ <craig@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>
subject:      re: ig: which martins?
x-to:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9603011759.a8189-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>

well...  actually a d-28 goes new for about $1300
and a d-35 goes for around $1500

not sure about the j-40ms


thank you for answering my question though.  looks like i will get the
d-25 after all.

lot's of love in your direction
hav a dandy day
craig

on fri, 1 mar 1996, teresa c. esguerra wrote:

>
>       i love answering the question...
>
>       both emily and amy play late 80s  j-40ms.  in more recent years,
> emily's been taking her d-35 (or is it 45?) on the road, and i think amy
> has an o-18 spare and a d-35spare.
>       iwas in a music store yesterday and i asked the guy behind the
> cvunter how much he could get me  a d-28 for.
>
>       $4000.
>
>       anyone out there a drug dealer with spare change?
>
> chatter chirp squeak buzzzz (from tomorrow on, i will abbreviate -ccsbzzzz),
> teri-
>
> on fri, 1 mar 1996, __craig cook__ wrote:
>
> > which martin acoustics do amy and emily play?
> >
> > craig cook
> >
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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 16:55:32 -0700
reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      separated at birth?

        i would like everyone to know that may 4th (the day ig's at the
no jazzfest)    is my friggin' birthday!!!  my 21st birthday
nonetheless.  why in god's name should i be in california on that day?

        i was in tower books the other day and i saw bonnie raitt's
biography (i believe it's called "just in the nick of time" or something
like that).  i was browsing through the pictures and i swear to all of
you there was one where ms. raitt looked dead on like emily.  i was kind
of insulted because the caption said something about "the picture of
bonnie when she was overweight" but i figure that the two women have
dissimilar facial bone structure and emily's got a naturally rounder
face.  they could have been separted at birth, with the same guitar
playing genes and the same vocal cords passed on.  this might be the
grand conspiracy of the music business, not reuniting these long lost
sisters...
        i believe it's "secure yourself" day, and it's my first attempt
at participating in this grand idea, but the only thought that comes to
mind is the latul video.  when they play this, there's that pausse in
the  middle, where amy's singing alone and someone in the audience lets
out the raging "wwwwhhhhhhoooooooooop!" and emily's face just gets this
great smile.  i love it.

chatter chirp squeak buzzzz,
teri

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subject:      "blood and fire" and another one...  "complicated girls"?
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these are two bootleg cds i spied today in cambridge...they seem to be made
by the same ppl who did "days of wine and roses"
what does anyone know about these...are they good shows, or sound
quality...and how do a and e feel about these italian bootlegs, etc...?

i am contemplating purchase...

thanks a lot

-larissa

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date:         fri, 1 mar 1996 17:12:25 -0700
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subject:      re: ig: which martins?
x-to:         __craig cook__ <craig@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.lnx.3.91.960301103524.6373e-100000@chewie.mgmt.purdue.edu>

        i love answering the question...

        both emily and amy play late 80s  j-40ms.  in more recent years,
emily's been taking her d-35 (or is it 45?) on the road, and i think amy
has an o-18 spare and a d-35spare.
        iwas in a music store yesterday and i asked the guy behind the
cvunter how much he could get me  a d-28 for.

        $4000.

        anyone out there a drug dealer with spare change?

chatter chirp squeak buzzzz (from tomorrow on, i will abbreviate -ccsbzzzz),
teri-

on fri, 1 mar 1996, __craig cook__ wrote:

> which martin acoustics do amy and emily play?
>
> craig cook
>
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subject:      secure yourself to heaven

it wasn't until i got on this list that i heard that
syth was about amy's cat that, shall we say,
went up on the roof and couldn't get down.
wow, i'm very impressed !
i once wrote a song about my cat that died
it went something like this:

  stubby was my cat
  he was my best friend
  and i miss hiiim (sob)

amy's song is much better
actually this was another song that got me through my
first year c & s. for me it was about turning my life
over to a higher power.
claire
>no beans up your nose !<    ( c. watson )

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        hi all. sorry to waste bandwith, but i have a question for anyone
out there from indiana or familiar with indianapolis. i just got a job in
indianapolis, and will be leaving no. cal for the midwest on may 1st, and
i was hoping someone might have some advice about good places for a 22
year old to live, hang out, etc. coming from berkeley, i preparing for a
shock. any help would be great, and you can e-mail me privately.

thanks,

derek :)

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subject:      see you later...nigc

well, i've just changed to digest format...looking forward to reading
when i get back from fieldwork.  have a fun weekend and week everyone
and i'll talk to y'all soon...i'll catch up with the song a day talk
next week.

see you later
love helene

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on fri, 1 mar 1996, teresa c. esguerra wrote:

>         i love answering the question...
>
>         both emily and amy play late 80s  j-40ms.  in more recent years,
> emily's been taking her d-35 (or is it 45?) on the road, and i think amy
> has an o-18 spare and a d-35spare.
>         iwas in a music store yesterday and i asked the guy behind the
> cvunter how much he could get me  a d-28 for.
>
>         $4000.
>
>         anyone out there a drug dealer with spare change?

why don't you just go and get yourself a taylor, they're just as good
(better in some players' opinions) and their top of the range is less
than that.   what you pay for is a guitar with the name cf martin at the
top.   there was a group test of small-bodied guitars (ie. sub-d28) in
acoustic guitar magazine early in 1995 and the top guitar was a martin
ooo-16 (about $1,700), followed closely by a taylor costing about the
same and a canadian t.j. thompson guitar (t-2), a 12-fret oo (though you
could probably get yourself a 14-fret one) which cost about $1,300.   tj
thompson actually collaborated with martin and schoenberg to create the
schoenberg soloist, so he is definitely a great luthier.

of course you could try kent everett who makes one of amy's other guitars
- i think david wilcox also plays one and i'm sure they're cheaper than a
martin as well.   and don't forget lowden as well though you'll probably
have to pay more for them cos they're imported from ireland.   (unless
you want to make the trip, it's a beautiful country ...)

mat

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subject:      italian boot cd's

>"blood and fire" and another one...  "complicated girls"?

>what does anyone know about these...are they good shows, or sound
>quality...and how do a and e feel about these italian bootlegs, etc...?

     i think blood and fire is from their opening shows for the grateful
dead in eugene, or.  i have a couple boot tapes of this so i didn't buy
this one.  i do have complicated girls.  songs on this cd are from
glastonbury festival, avalon, england 6/25/95  also ny 12/5/94  and
philadelphia 12/3/94.  the sound quality of boot cd's tends to be much
better than many boot tapes i've traded for.  i usually rate boot cd's with
an a as far as sound quality.  cg is good.
    maybe we could trade bootlegs or something if you want to save a few bucks.

i have asked amy how she feels about bootlegs (i have a bunch) and she told
me she didn't care as long as people don't make a lot of money from them.
she also said that she bootlegs all her own shows. i guess that's how they
got 1200 curfews.


                                        --sunny

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subject:      concerts/shows

if anyone know of any ig concerts near huntsville, al (preferably on a week end)
please let me know!!!
also, if you hear about an "impromptu" performance a day ahead of time, id
appreciate it.
thanx!
-simone

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subject:      grammys

hi friends,

      hope you're all doing well during this slow, dreggie month of
indigo-less march. well, firstly.....those grammys......yuk!!! where was the
ig's award? the only good thing about the entire show was ellen degeneres and
the song done by whitney houston and that wonderful gospel choir.

      on a more personal note, i never respond to personal type issues, but i
had to this time. the first ig song that really affected me was "ghost." i
heard the song during the horrible ending of a relationship. every word rang
true and felt like a knife in my chest. every since, i was hooked! now i
listen to the song and wonder what the hell i was doing with that person in
the first place....thanks emily!!!


                                annie

        "every day is an emily day" ....ok, lorindigo..."and every night is
an amy night."

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subject:      (nigc) pen pal search

hey all,

i was wondering if a few bored people could do me a favor? read on if your
have some extra time to spend on email.

i'm leaving the list cause my account is closing. i'll miss reading the posts
cause you all are certainly fun and thought-provoking. but i'll miss something
even more.

that would be my wacky, yet amazing email relationship with a certain median
cat. if i could list all the wonderful things ig has brought into my life,
cylinda parga would certainly be at the top of the list. well, ok, near the
top. don't want to swell that already large head:) my point, you ask? well, i
feel like i'm leaving her behind in some twisted way. so if anyone out there
would like a charming, funny, easy-to-pick-on pen pal, please send her a
message. you don't have to write much. just insult her and her state of texas
every once in a while. that's all. she'll clue you in on some great music
outside of ig. she'll freak out on you in spastic intervals. she'll just
generally make you feel better about life. i guarantee it. or your money back:)

if you need some excitement in your life, if you need a boost, or if you just
need some way to waste the day then please consider this.

so whaddya say? come one, come all. just sign up at this address:
ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu

if you need more info, about her personality, her measurements;), then email
me at this address until sunday night. after that, you're on your own...:)

(this was done out of love, hick chick. heh heh...) <---ignore that. i'm
serious about the pen pal deal. thank you kindly.


yen m tang
hick chick wannabe

"but no one knows for certain, and so it's all the same to me" -iris dement

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from:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
subject:      "blood and fire"
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more about this bootleg cd
i bought it cause it looked so good
and it is
and it has a song on it that i've never heard a and e do anywhere else
called
"mona lisas and mad hatters"
and it is gorgeous
and even though they say who it is by i can't tell what they're saying...
does anyone know?
thanks!!!
-larissa

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from:         dana warnez <danaw1208@aol.com>
subject:      re: secure yourself

hi everybody!

on 3/1/96, mtngrl6 wrote:
> after reading the lyrics to this song, the line, "allowed to glide
>right through the sun, released from circles, guarded tight, now we all are
>chosen ones..." reminds me of a book i'm reading called, _medicine woman_ by
>lynn v. andrews...she's writing about the seven circles of the dreamers and
>how you can move in between them, but not be in them.  only spirits (the
>dead) can be in the circles. i'm not sure of the connection but maybe she
>means that if you're released from life, you can move freely through all
>levels of existence?  either way, i love the imagery of this song!

   the only thing that i want to add is something relating to the reference
to
"allowed to glide right through the sun" from secure yourself.

     there is a native american creation myth about how the sun had made
everything beautiful and natural, and mankind being so in awe of the beauty
and of the great things created in the natural environment wanted to send
a message  to the sun expressing how grateful they were for the sun's
generaous gifts.  so the people watched and decided that the eagle would
be the only creature able to fly high enough to reach the sun in the great
sky,
so the the people attached to the eagle a message of thanks and sent the
eagle on its way, and the eagle flew and flew and finally reached the sun
and gave the sun the people's gift of thanks, and the sun so pleased by this

gift and  by the eagle's accomplishment, decided it would bless, if you will,

the eagle and send back with the eagle a message to the humans to show
the sun's pleasure, so the sun touched the tip of the eagle's tail feather
...and the heat of the sun cinged the very tip of the feather.  the cinge
on the tail feather would forever be a sign of the sun's special relationship

with the eagle and with mankind.  this is the explanation of why the tips of
an eagle's tail feather is black.
   now if i missed something, or didn't tell it right....someone please write

and tell me....i thought this would be something fun to share with all of
you.
   thanks for reading-  dana

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on sat, 2 mar 1996, sunny wrote:

> >"blood and fire" and another one...  "complicated girls"?
>
> >what does anyone know about these...are they good shows, or sound
> >quality...and how do a and e feel about these italian bootlegs, etc...?
>
>      i think blood and fire is from their opening shows for the grateful
> dead in eugene, or.  i have a couple boot tapes of this so i didn't buy
> this one.  i do have complicated girls.  songs on this cd are from
> glastonbury festival, avalon, england 6/25/95  also ny 12/5/94  and
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the glastonbury festival is in glastonbury!   the name avalon is used
only in arthurian mythology and the welsh name for the town may be
similar, but if you asked for directions to avalon from any town in
england you would encounter some very strange stares indeed!   there is
no such place as avalon, never has been as long as the town has been in
english (ie. not celtic) hands.

mat

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|  mts5@aber.ac.uk   |      for anyone, an absentee boss is best."     |
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|    billy bragg / indigo girls info:  http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/    |
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subject:      song of the day theme

>hi all...
>can anyone help me?... i lost the"song of the day" list that was posted
>a few days back. i'd be very thankful if someone could forward it to me:
>the proud new owner of a very expensive 1200 curfews cd. am enjoying >it
immensly.... ordered the watershed video. can't wait.
>thanks for your help. (at least i hope i get some )
kim fischer rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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with scissors!!!"
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subject:      super bitmap recorded cd

hi everyone !

playing around with the catalog terminal at my favourite record shop,
i found out that there is a rerelease of 'indigo girls' in a format
sony music calls super bitmap recording. ordered it at once and can't
wait to hear it.

someone aready has one, does it really sound better ?

best wishes,   georg
---
got too much of a mind. wouldn't you rather be happy ? - dead kennedys

georg petersen, heintzestrasse 20, d-24582 bordesholm, germany

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subject:      re: ig: which martins?
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if you can get your hands on a martin shenandoah, get one.  they are much
less expensive than the other martins and sing out about as well...i have
one and although it's a bt scratched up, i love it.

--mike

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subject:      you know you're an ig fan....ctf stuff"

okay...there's a day here once a year....
this is how it's remembered...first sunday in may is gay day
anyway, you know you're a big ig fan when you skip you first ever
gay day to go to a concert with a total stranger you've never met
and share a room with a total stranger you've never met
*sighs*
i'm sharing a room with trant...if he turns out to be a serial killer
and i don't post anything after the no concert, turn him in
just kidding don't do that!
*laughs*
about ctf: i wanted to move to atlanta and buy a club and call it
"bar at 3am" just so emily could go there and literally say she went
to the bar at 3 am at 11:00 at night ;)
*silly idea, but _i_ think it's cool ;)*
see ya!
sal-ray:)

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subject:      re: (very-nigc) pen pal search

howdy y'all-

i'm _really_ sorry to be cluttering up the list like this, and i promise
this will be my only post on the subject, but i just couldn't stand to let
yen have the last word on this.  if you feel flames are in order, you know
where to send them, thanks to yen posting my address all over the list........

first of all, i think it's really and truly increadible how ig has brought
so many people together and helped to form friendships that never would have
been made without their music or influence.  my friendship with yen is an
example of this amazing occurance, and is something i greatly value, and i
know there are hundreds of other similar stories out there.  that's really
one of the best things about this list, i think, bringing people together.

but contrary to yen's warped perceptions, i'm not in the market for a pen
pal. in fact, i shall probably be leaving my account soon to head up north
in search of a yankee to throw in the ocean. (yeah, you better start running
now gimp...)

once again, i sincerely apologize for this personal nonsense on the list,
and i really wish both yen and i had the self-restraint to have let this
subject die the quick and painless death it was meant to have.  alas, we
don't always get what we wish for.....

peace,
cylinda
hick chick poser          "we act empty and innocent but we are fueled
                            by distortions of lives led in discontent"
                                 -amy ray

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from:         poohgrl816@aol.com
subject:      info, info, info

gosh, i feel like a kid on christmas morning having finally found the home
page for the indigo girls!  how thrilling!  ok, so i noticed lots and lots of
things about the indigo girls that a diehard fan like myself should now.
since i am a novice at all of this, and i haven't a clue as to what bootleg
information is, i would appreciate some help.  i was introduced to the amy
and emily's music when i was in college.  i love them.  such raw emotion in
their music.  so....i am looking forward to hearing from all of you...

live life well,   pooh

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date:         sat, 2 mar 1996 17:39:40 -0800
reply-to:     river city news <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      lost song of the day list

>hi again, all...
>i apologize if this message was already received by everyone... it's just
>there's been trouble with my pop server here all day + i get the list via
>bounce... but didn't get my own posted message and wonder if it was
>ever sent. anyway... all i want is a bit of help... lost my song of the day
>list + would love it if someone would take pity on me + forward one to
>me. thanks much.
kim fischer rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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with scissors!!!"
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reply-to:     curtis lord <x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca>
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subject:      re: ig: which martins?
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.91.960302120156.2193a-100000@osfgg.aber.ac.uk>

> >
> >         both emily and amy play late 80s  j-40ms.  in more recent years,
> > emily's been taking her d-35 (or is it 45?) on the road, and i think amy
> > has an o-18 spare and a d-35spare.
> >         iwas in a music store yesterday and i asked the guy behind the
> > cvunter how much he could get me  a d-28 for.
> >
> >         $4000.
>
> why don't you just go and get yourself a taylor, they're just as good
> (better in some players' opinions) and their top of the range is less
> than that.   what you pay for is a guitar with the name cf martin at the
> top.   there was a group test of small-bodied guitars (ie. sub-d28) in
> acoustic guitar magazine early in 1995 and the top guitar was a martin
> ooo-16 (about $1,700), followed closely by a taylor costing about the
> same and a canadian t.j. thompson guitar (t-2), a 12-fret oo (though you
> could probably get yourself a 14-fret one) which cost about $1,300.   tj
> thompson actually collaborated with martin and schoenberg to create the
> schoenberg soloist, so he is definitely a great luthier.
>
> of course you could try kent everett who makes one of amy's other guitars
> - i think david wilcox also plays one and i'm sure they're cheaper than a
> martin as well.   and don't forget lowden as well though you'll probably
> have to pay more for them cos they're imported from ireland.   (unless
> you want to make the trip, it's a beautiful country ...)
>

in addition... there are a lot of options out there when looking for a
good solid body guitar... i picked up a guitar from a canadian company
'simon and patrick' - they make some really high quality guitars that are
really on the inexpensive side and as well on the high end of quality....
i have yet to find one that is a martin look and sound alike but if ya
get the chance they are really good...
and youre supporting the canadian acoustic makers!

                                 xxx         xxx
curtis a. lord                     xxx     xxx
x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca                xxx xxx
                                       xxx       marks the spot
sailing the seas of                  xxx xxx
st. francis xavier u.              xxx     xxx
antigonish, nova scotia.         xxx         xxx

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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      speaking of separated at birth.....

is it just me ? or were amy ray and darius rucker
separated at birth ? i mean amy has a greater range
vocally ( i think.) but their voice patterns seem similar to me.
then again, maybe it was the large amount of "thin mints"
i ingested today ( yes, the brownies and girl scouts are
stalking innocent victims again.)
oh well, i'll shut up now
bye-bye!
claire
>me want cooookiiieee!< (the cookie monster)

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subject:      re: guitars cont. nigc

>there is one message totalling 56 lines in this issue.
>
>topics of the day:
>
>  1. ig: which martins?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>date:    sat, 2 mar 1996 23:12:27 -0400
>from:    curtis lord <x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca>
>subject: re: ig: which martins?
>
>> >
>> >         both emily and amy play late 80s  j-40ms.  in more recent years,
>> > emily's been taking her d-35 (or is it 45?) on the road, and i think amy
>> > has an o-18 spare and a d-35spare.
>> >         iwas in a music store yesterday and i asked the guy behind the
>> > cvunter how much he could get me  a d-28 for.
>> >
>> >         $4000.
>>
>> why don't you just go and get yourself a taylor, they're just as good
>> (better in some players' opinions) and their top of the range is less
>> than that.   what you pay for is a guitar with the name cf martin at the
>> top.   there was a group test of small-bodied guitars (ie. sub-d28) in
>> acoustic guitar magazine early in 1995 and the top guitar was a martin
>> ooo-16 (about $1,700), followed closely by a taylor costing about the
>> same and a canadian t.j. thompson guitar (t-2), a 12-fret oo (though you
>> could probably get yourself a 14-fret one) which cost about $1,300.   tj
>> thompson actually collaborated with martin and schoenberg to create the
>> schoenberg soloist, so he is definitely a great luthier.
>>
>> of course you could try kent everett who makes one of amy's other guitars
>> - i think david wilcox also plays one and i'm sure they're cheaper than a
>> martin as well.   and don't forget lowden as well though you'll probably
>> have to pay more for them cos they're imported from ireland.   (unless
>> you want to make the trip, it's a beautiful country ...)
>>
>
>in addition... there are a lot of options out there when looking for a
>good solid body guitar... i picked up a guitar from a canadian company
>'simon and patrick' - they make some really high quality guitars that are
>really on the inexpensive side and as well on the high end of quality....
>i have yet to find one that is a martin look and sound alike but if ya
>get the chance they are really good...
>and youre supporting the canadian acoustic makers!
>
>
>
>there are several other high quality, not so stratospherically price brands
that i've not yet heard mentioned.  i play several different guilds, with my
favorite being my d50, although guild makes a lot of other dreadnaught guitars
that play well/sound great.  the upper end of the guild price range is maybe
around $2000, less than half the price of a higher end martin,  with at
least as
much playabliity and quality  (and a far more robust bottom end, imho) other
options for someone with less money (or more financial responsibility) are
guitars from the godin/seagull line ( a fine canadian company) or alvarez
(bob weir) and takamine. (but i love my guilds)

dave neale

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reply-to:     randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
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from:         randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
subject:      nigc: wilcox guitar (was re:  ig: which martins?)

indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk> writes:
> of course you could try kent everett who makes one of amy's other guitars
> - i think david wilcox also plays one and i'm sure they're cheaper than a
> martin as well.

  david wilcox plays an olsen guitar, handmade by james olsen
  himself.  they're very expensive but david says that they
  have more songs in them. :-)

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from:         sunny <sun@swcp.com>
subject:      avalon

>> i do have complicated girls.  songs on this cd are from
>> glastonbury festival, avalon, england 6/25/95  also ny 12/5/94  and
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>the glastonbury festival is in glastonbury!   the name avalon is used
>only in arthurian mythology and the welsh name for the town may be
>similar, but if you asked for directions to avalon from any town in
>england you would encounter some very strange stares indeed!   there is
>no such place as avalon, never has been as long as the town has been in
>english (ie. not celtic) hands.
>
>mat

     well of course the glastonbury festival is in glastonbury!  :)   as
far as avalon goes, i just copied the location of the show word for word
off the back of my cd.  it doesn't surprise me that these people would use
a "mythological" name as a location for an ig show.  these are the same
people who can't get the titles right on this cd either.  they used "how
long" for galileo, "inspiration" for reunion, "closer i am" for closer to
fine, "on the road" for chickenman, "leave you go" for the wood song,
"untitled" for dead man's hill, and "nothing to hide" for reunion.

     life just cracks me up!


                                                --sunny

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from:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
subject:      re: avalon
x-to:         sun@swcp.com

that is amusing...on the "blood and fire" cd by the same random folks, they
spell canaan "caanan" and they don't acknowledge that  get together (which
they call everybody get together), all along the watchtower,  and mona lisas
and mad hatters are covers of other folks work...of course, on days of wine
and roses which is also from italy, although it seems to be made by another
company, they spell gallileo "gallies", languarge or the kiss is "language of
the kiss" andonce again...closer to fine is "closer to me"
sigh
its funny...really...

-larissa

> these are the same
>people who can't get the titles right on this cd either.  they used >"how
long" for galileo, "inspiration" for reunion, "closer i am" >for closer to
fine, "on the road" for chickenman, "leave you >go" for the wood song,
"untitled" for dead man's hill, and >"nothing to hide" for reunion.

  life just cracks me up!

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
organization: prifysgol cymru - aberystwyth - university of wales
subject:      re: nigc: wilcox guitar (was re: ig: which martins?)
x-to:         randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199603031505.kaa09649@felix.seas.gwu.edu>

on sun, 3 mar 1996, randy rohrer wrote:

> indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk> writes:
> > of course you could try kent everett who makes one of amy's other guitars
> > - i think david wilcox also plays one and i'm sure they're cheaper than a
> > martin as well.
>
>   david wilcox plays an olsen guitar, handmade by james olsen
>   himself.  they're very expensive but david says that they
>   have more songs in them. :-)

yes, but everett's ad in acoustic guitar also claims wilcox, along with
rich williams, amy and one pat buchanan (of hall & oats) as his customers.

mat

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from:         mediamongr@aol.com
subject:      re: igs as women's night honorees

hi listies, fortunate ones, et. al. : )

does anybody out there (esp. in la) have info about this event?  was it
covered in sunday's newspaper?  did anyone out there attend?  heck, did a & e
even go (assuming they did)?

waitin' patiently for info,
lorie

in a message dated 96-03-03 13:49:42 est, you write:

>>subj: igs as women's night honorees
>>date: 96-01-08 21:46:56 est
>>from: edgy@netcom.com (edgy)
>>sender:       indigo-girls@netspace.org (indigo girls mailing list)
>>reply-to:     edgy@netcom.com (edgy)
>>to:   indigo-girls@netspace.org (multiple recipients of list indigo-girls)
>>
>>amy ray and emily saliers (and linda villerosa) will be honored at "women's
>>night xiii," an event that benefits women's support services at the
>>los angeles gay and lesbian center. the event will be held on saturday,
>>march 2, 1996 at the beverly hilton hotel. for information call (213)
>>993-7620. last year's honorees were melissa etheridge, martina
>>navratilova, and local newscaster christina gonzalez.

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subject:      a+e award banquet
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              processor" at mar 3, 96 00:04:53 am

hey all,

just wondering if anyone knew how the awards banquet honoring amy and em
and some other people went in la? i can't remeber who did the honoring,
but i do remember someone mentioning it was a very expensive banquet.


                "...awful quiet here since love fell asleep.."
                                        sharon :)

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from:         "tracy l. fears" <und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu>
subject:      nigc....just me

well, i got my uncle's e-mail address today and the whole
situation of being away from my father's side of the family got me
thinking tof some ig songs....okay...so there is ig content...
but none of any relevance....anyway, i feel like a prodigal daughter
except for the fact that i didn't leave the family, i was kept
from it due to some unfortunate incident involving my father's other
brother....but that's in the past...
it so depressing knowing that you have a huge family out there that
you never even knew about....i never knew i had an aunt until last
year...*sighs* i prolly past her in the grocery store while they
were playing some funky musak version of power of two....
and the line from reunion cam to mind also...
"i have no need for anger with intimate strangers"
some one else brought the phrase intimate strangers up to describe
all of us on this list, but it also describes me and my father's
family......they are intimate strangers to me.... *sighs*
hopefully things will change soon and i can make up for lost time
but 20 years takes a long time to catch up...maybe not too long
thanks to all of y'all for  listening to my boring dribble
have a great day!
sal-ray:)

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from:         linda perrine <lap@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      ig video moments...

in addition to the "song of the day" idea, i think we should offer up
favorite moments from the
two videos latul and watershed.  there are many that come to mind, but i
will kick it off with my favorite(s) (and there are so many!).
(personally, i can not watch these two videos too many times!)
   my favorite moments come from crazy game on latul.  when a&e finish the
first chorus and amy is trying real hard to hit the exact note and then
looks over at e to find e is looking at her with this big smile!!  then
when e is doing the second verse and hits the high note in
"...drrrrryyyyyyy your eyes" and they have a shot of amy with a really
great smile as she looks to the audience.  and finally, right after that
when emily sings "eyes like yours should carry a smile, and i haven't seen
them sparkle in a while" and looks over at amy who gives her another big
smile!!!
   if i ever need cheering up, watching them in this song will do it every
time!  i can't wait for may 4th!!  see y'all in new orleans!!!
linda

linda perrine
lap@ix.netcom.com

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from:         christine housel <chousel@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      y'all are great...we need to meet!!

so there i was, friday night, in a very anti-social sort of mood and not
very happy, just hanging out...thinking about how i could avoid doing any
work and pep myself up a bit...and then i remembered a whole stack of
"list" messages i'd printed out from the last few days, which i hadn't
had time to read thoroughly and enjoy like i usually do. so i sat there
with my cup o'java and the inch-high stack of messages and read
away...and, wow! it was just what i needed. here were all these people
talking about the same music that means so much to me too, reflecting
upon songs that i too know like the back of my hand...i found myself
laughing (thanx cyberlinda & others!), crying, pondering...and sort of
overwhelmed with the incredible insightfulness, sensitivity, good-naturedness,
sense of humor, and overall "good attitude toward life" of people on this list.
i've been perceiving (and enjoying!) this all along, but by friday night, it
had all kinda built up and hit me all at once as i sat there and read
message after wonderful message. thank you.

you're terrific, all of you, and i would love to meet you in person. i
think we'd all "connect" really well and have a load of fun!

let's definitely work out a foolproof plan to meet at jazzfest and at the
may 4 concert. the ideas that have been suggested so far for i.d.-ing
ourselves are great ones! here's my 2-cents on this subject:

* as mentioned by several of ya'll, i think it will be crucial to have
set *places* to meet at certain *times*, and that we all know where those
places are. tamara, thanks for trying to get ahold of the uno arena
"layout"--that will be really helpful! i love the idea of getting
together at a nearby restaurant before the may 4 show....if we do
something like that, i think we should also have a definite meeting spot
at uno before *and* after the show, for those people who aren't able to
make it to the restaurant gathering beforehand. as lorindigo mentioned, i
think a visible sign or banner of some sort is really important. i'd be
willing to help out with this and make a sign or whatever!

* then, to add to the fun, i think the button/pin/shirt/sticker ideas are
terrific ones. i don't have any suggestions for slogans, but whatever it
says, we need to make it simple and easy to spot. and i agree that it
should be relatively subtle--not blatantly screaming "computer-list junkies"
....i kinda like that "rototiller" idea (what a great word....ro-to-tiller...
or maybe "roto-rooter"...).

ok, i know we still have lots of time to plan all this, but i'm getting
more excited by the day, as i'm sure you all are, and i'm especially
excited now about meeting you!!

and i know i've rambled on here forever so i'll shut up now.

tchau-ciao-chow!

christine  :)

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subject:      re: igs as women's night honorees

at 01:54 pm 3/3/96 -0500, someone wrote:

>does anybody out there (esp. in la) have info about this event?  was it
>covered in sunday's newspaper?  did anyone out there attend?  heck, did a & e
>even go (assuming they did)?


couldn't make the event although i wanted to take my sister and her lover
for their 10th anniversary.  i thought the seats were $100 but they were $150
which i just couldn't  swing.

but...

i do have one of the rolled promo posters for the event that they put in the
gay establishments
to announce the event.  i will part with this exclusive poster for a good
tape of something
special indigo!!!!

also the ig were the cover story on the local "gay and lesbian times"
magazine for
the event which i grabbed a stack of about 50 of and am offering free for
the taking, as
long as you're willing to cover the postage/shipping costs.  my budget will
not allow me
to pay to send these out to everyone......but they are free otherwise and
you can ask for
more than one if you desire just don't be greedy!!!

peace,   michael   :-)

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subject:      re: ig: which martins?
x-to:         curtis lord <x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca>
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on sat, 2 mar 1996, curtis lord wrote:

> in addition... there are a lot of options out there when looking for a
> good solid body guitar... i picked up a guitar from a canadian company
> 'simon and patrick' - they make some really high quality guitars that are
> really on the inexpensive side and as well on the high end of quality....
> i have yet to find one that is a martin look and sound alike but if ya
> get the chance they are really good...

        this is kind of weird, because i was just looking at some of
these guitars the other day and really like them.  all their guitars are
handmade (lower end models included) and actually, i was told that simon
and patrick is working out of an old martin factory in canada and that
mr. simon and mr. patrick used to work for cf martin at one point.  but
as curtis pointed out - they're not martin look/soundalikes.

        anyways, i tried out a solid rosewood dreadnought and it was
truly impressive (i'm beginning to discover i'm not one for
spruce...not my sound).  they give great prices and are worth checking
out.  not many american stores are carrying them however.

> and youre supporting the canadian acoustic makers!
        this wasn't really in my mind when i was considering purchasing a
simon and patrick, but if i do buyy one, then curtis...i'm glad to have
helped your canadian acousitc makers.  will canada grant me citizenship
then?.


ccsbzzz,
teri

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date:         sun, 3 mar 1996 16:11:07 -0700
reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      ca. to n.o. jazzfest?

        sorry to waste bandwidth for such desperate measure, but is
anyone from california heading for new orleans via car train bus plane
boat or whatever???

        to reiterate, may 4th is my 21st birthday and i'm really weighing
my options.  this may sound ridiculous, but it's either spend it in a
really grand way, that is, to be able to say
"formy21stbirthdayihitchhikedtoneworleansandsawthegreatestbandonearth"

        or...

        to spend it with the woman who gave birth to me....

        or...

        to take my mom to new orleans...

        but seriously, i just wanted to know if there was a caravan of
any sorts that is heading out of california and into louisiana in
relatively one piece.  if so, i'd be interested in knowing.

ccsbzzz,
teri

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date:         sun, 3 mar 1996 19:22:09 -0500
reply-to:     anonymous user <nobody@rutgers.edu>
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from:         anonymous user <nobody@rutgers.edu>
organization: rutgers university
subject:      cheap hotel rates for new orleans jazz festival

i have booked 50 rooms at la-quinta-inn airport in new orleans for
may 1-5, 1996.  the cost of these rooms is $132 per night or $33 per
person per night (4 people in a room).  i have also chartered a bus to
take people to an from the indigo girls concert on may 4, 1996 at the uno
lakefront arena.  the cost for a seat on the bus is $20 per person.

if you are interested, please e-mail me at indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu or
call me at (908)418-0721.  i will be glad to answer any and all
questions.  to reserve a hotel room/space or a seat on the bus, you need
to send me a check or money order for the full amount made out to the
following name at the following address:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

if you are concerned about getting ripped off, i will make any and all
assurances to ease your mind.  i organized the indigo girls fan tour
during the summer of 1994 and there were no complaints.  you can contact
the indigo girls fan club to verify that i am legitimate.

i look forward to hearing from you and meeting you in new orleans.  talk
to ya soon.

let it grow

bert

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date:         sun, 3 mar 1996 23:01:30 -0500
reply-to:     angiecies@aol.com
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from:         angela ciesla <angiecies@aol.com>
subject:      re: info, info, info
x-to:         poohgrl816@aol.com

as a big fan of winnie, any person who uses pooh as part of their name is ok
with me.

angie in kc

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subject:      re: ids for jazzfest

christine h wrote:
>let's definitely work out a foolproof plan to meet at jazzfest and at the
>may 4 concert....
        i don't remember who but i love the "moo".  indigo on white t's with
the letters "moo".  not a one would suspect us as computer fluffs or as
indigs if anyone cares.  moo definitely gets my vote for the inside straight
as the id of the fest.
        comments?  thoughts?  its cheap.  wear a t inside out and write moo
on it - no extra funds expended but the point made.  please address all
responses in flame retardant fruit of the looms.
yours almost truly,

karen

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subject:      songs for the week

hi everybody, i thought i'd reiterate the songs for this week so everyone can
get their thinking caps on:

mon:  kid fears
tues: blood and fire
wed: tried to be true
thur: love's recovery  {i can feel cyberspace burning up already)
fri: we already did land of canaan, so let's do center stage instead. of
course, feel free to comment about any songs, anytime!

just a little note... those of you who are familiar with my ramblings know i
am a pretty liberal mother of 2 boys, one of whom (the youngest) is a staunch
ig fan. my oldest son casey(13) is not very fond of them although he does
like bmhawn, and chickenman. anyhow, someone posted yesterday how they
thought it was great that someone took their 8 year old to an ig concert. i
agree, when colin gets old enough and wants to go, i would like to take him.
casey's first concert (now don't gag) was at age 9, when my husband took him
to see _ozzie osborne_!  and i didn't divorce him (just joking).  btw, he
liked the special effects, but thought the music stunk. ("and mommy, what was
that funny smell in the air?")


angie in kc

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      moo!!!

hi folks,

i love the "moo" identifier for the new orleans concert, but i think it would be kinda
neat to have buttons that say "moo" as well as t-shirts.  i'm not sure whether i have
the guts to wear a t-shirt that says "moo" (ggg)  i think it's a wonderful idea though.
maybe those of us who are not as bold could wear "moo"  buttons!  btw,  renee (from san
diego) and i have discussed making the bus' theme "back on the bus, y'all!"  what do
y'all think?

peace,

joan :)

p.s. -- the show is 2 months from today!!!

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date:         mon, 4 mar 1996 01:34:57 -0500
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from:         "lisa a. ross" <rustyr@delphi.com>
subject:      re: igs as women's night honorees
x-to:         mrbcom@earthlink.net

   >i do have one of the rolled promo posters for the event that they put
   >in the gay establishments
   >to announce the event.  i will part with this exclusive poster for a
   >good tape of something
   >special indigo!!!!
my heart leaps at the notion!  all i have are "in with the out crowd"
and "blood and fire," but i'd be happy to make you copies of either or
both.


   >also the ig were the cover story on the local "gay and lesbian times"
   >magazine for the event which i grabbed a stack of about 50 of and
   >am offering free for the taking, as
   >long as you're willing to cover the postage/shipping costs.
yes!  please!  i'm down here in lesbian nowhere (memphis) and would love
a copy.  email me whatever info and i'll send you whatever!  just one.
i'll let everyone else have their shot.  thanks for offering.  you're a
sweetheart!
rustyr

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subject:      rhythm and chords

wed, 28 feb 1996 trant batey wrote:

if anyone plays this song,  i'd like to know the rythum patterns you use.=

it seems really easy when you hear it, and indeed the chord changes are
strait farword,  but the rythum for some reason is really hard for me.
i've been playing for about a year and a half.

my suggestion is:
just listen closely to amy's version. that's all i can say! that's how i =
figured it out!
i get the chords from the songbooks and the rhythm from the cds.  so to a=
ll the people trying hard to figure out chord progressions and solos: why=
don't you get the songbook?=20

christel

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from:         christel van der boom <christel@dlv.nl>
subject:      rhythm and chords

on wed, 28 feb 1996 trant batey wrote:

if anyone plays this song,  i'd like to know the rythum patterns you use.=

it seems really easy when you hear it, and indeed the chord changes are
strait farword,  but the rythum for some reason is really hard for me.
i've been playing for about a year and a half.

my suggestion is:
just listen closely to amy's version. that's all i can say! that's how i =
figured it out!
i get the chords from the songbooks and the rhythm from the cds.  so to a=
ll the people trying hard to figure out chord progressions and solos: why=
don't you get the songbook?=20

christel

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date:         mon, 4 mar 1996 07:24:16 -0600
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subject:      nigc: michigan women's music festival
in-reply-to:  <960302140619_338843583@mail04.mail.aol.com>

does anyone have info about this year's michigan women's music festival?
(when, where, who will be there, how much, how to get
tickets/reservations, etc.)

apologies if this has been discussed recently.

thanks,

marci <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>
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from:         tina pelkey <poohgrl816@aol.com>
subject:      stupid question

how does one get tickets for the new orleans concert?  forgive me as i seem a
little stupid, you see i was raised in boise-we don't want none of them weird
people, we love pat buchanan, abortion is murder, wasp, idaho.  it took a
move to oregon for me to effectively purge my mind of these dangerous
thoughts!  so...be patient with me on this list, i may seem a little stupid,
but i do love the ig more than any other music ever and what i lack in
knowledge i make up in enthusiasm.  thanks everyone!!

pooh


p.s.  i have never seen the ig's in concert

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subject:      kid fears

>hey everyone. monday - kf day.
>well... i've got an odd slant on this song. see - i 1st heard it around the
>time i 1st saw + fell in love w the movie fgt. so, everytime i hear the
>lyrics "hey little girl, painful pearls, how much have you grown?..." etc
>i have this image of buddy up in the tree house trying to sooth idgey
>with the story about the oyster... you know - how god makes a pearl by
>putting a piece of sand in it.... so - she's special: a pearl. ...
>anyway, i love the entire song, but just thought i'd share that impression.
>won't i be embarrassed if y'all have the real story behind it, and that's
>it?... ah well. it's nice to share : )
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
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subject:      re: ids for jazzfest

i love the idea of moo t-shirts for the thurs. may2 jazz fest show.

if we all made t shirts that just said moo then we could recognize
each other while walking around jazz fest.

i think it would still be helpful to make some type of banner for the
actual ig show... perhaps just a banner that says moo.

good idea.

moo.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
                                  -david st. hubins
'
                    "these go  up to eleven"
                                   -nigel tufnel

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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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from:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      re: ids for jazzfest

the thought of cheap t-shirts with writing on it made me think (oh god!).
we can all get men's t-shirts from - like k-mart or something.  then write
"indigo girls" -  "folkisgrooven" (or whatever that is suppose to be) -
"a+e=ig" - plus the newsgroup url and the list.

whadda think?

- jen hall
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from karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>, on 3/3/96 10:15 pm:
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christine h wrote:
>let's definitely work out a foolproof plan to meet at jazzfest and at the
>may 4 concert....
        i don't remember who but i love the "moo".  indigo on white t's
with
the letters "moo".  not a one would suspect us as computer fluffs or as
indigs if anyone cares.  moo definitely gets my vote for the inside
straight
as the id of the fest.
        comments?  thoughts?  its cheap.  wear a t inside out and write moo
on it - no extra funds expended but the point made.  please address all
responses in flame retardant fruit of the looms.
yours almost truly,

karen

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reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      newport folk fest

okay, now i know that the newport folk festival is a long, long, long way off, but a lot of us are hooked up to the mailing list through our college accounts and we will lose access to those accounts in may.

why don't we adopt the same id for both the jazz fest and the newport folk fest? that way, those who lose list access when the school year ends, but are planning to go to the folk fest in august, can know how to meet up with other list members.  for example, if we wear "moo" shirts to the jazz fest, we could also wear "moo" shirts to the folk fest.

what do you think?
alycia


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subject:      i'll give you my skin...(duet w/m stipe & ig's)

while browsing through the bargain bins at circuit city, i came accross a cd
called "tame yourself" which was a various artist compilation done for peta.
on it was none other than the ig's w/ mstipe!  i had no idea!  the song is
called "i'll give you my skin".  it is a great song....the cd was well worth
the 4 bucks i paid for it!  i was a little sad that we didn't discuss this
here on the list...we maybe we did and i missed it??

anyway, for those of you who don't know about that song...this message is for
y'all.  the cd has other great artists like erasure, k.d. lang, and some
others that i can't think of off hand.  anyway, thoughts anyone???
take care
rob

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subject:      ig award dinner on saturday night

in case anyone is still wondering...

at least one of your listmembers attended -- me.  so i'm
assuming the role of reporter here, briefly.

it was a formal dinner dance to benefit the los angeles
gay and lesbian community center.  the honorees were
indigo girls and linda villarosa, an editor at essence
magazine.  all in all, it was a very glitzy, hollywood event,
very un-indigo girls, it seemed.  not much mingling with
them, if any.  in fact, i think the hardcore fanbase was
largely absent.

the girls looked great, they each gave a brief speech
about respecting everyone and the planet, etc., and after
their speeches they sang  an impromptu "finlandia."

i found it kind of odd, though, that they were introduced
by the two women who play the lesbian couple on
"friends."  they were dressed as their characters from a
recent wedding episode and gave an introduction that
seemed to me to indicate that they weren't really fans
themselves, even though they gushingly said they were.
something about birkenstocks and flannel, which i thought
was gratuitous.  also, and i wonder if it was just me, but
when the mistress of ceremonies, nora dunn, was
announcing all the honorees, she said of their award, "you
know, the
i'm-not-too-chickenshit-to-come-out-even-though-everyone-already-knew-it award."  now, i though this was a
direct slam at the girls and in really bad taste.

anyway, that was it.  the evening was surprisingly low on
igc.

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from:         sabina batelman <sabinab@student.umass.edu>
subject:      help me....

the question was brought up before on how some of us could get tickets to
the new orleans jazzfest.  i've never been to one of the ig's shows and
it happens to be that my friends are not as crazy about them as i am.
so, i'm kinda clueless.  please, i really want to go and would appreciate
if any of y'all could help me out.


thanx :),

sabina

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reply-to:     "hullett, belinda/mgm" <bhullett@mgm.ms.ch2m.com>
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from:         "hullett, belinda/mgm" <bhullett@mgm.ms.ch2m.com>
subject:      ctf day

i normally do not post, but i had to comment on ctf as it was my
introduction to ig and, thus, has a special place in my heart,

it was in 1992 and i was a senior in college, scheduled to graduate in
may 1993.  i ordered one of our senior class shirts, sight unseen, and
when i finally got it, it had this wonderful quotation circling a pair of
graduates clutching their degrees and reaching for the sky on the back:

"i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and i was
free." - indigo girls

that single quote so intrigued me that i sought out the song name, cd
title and have been hooked on ig ever since.

just thought i'd share a story rather than an interpretation.

bah

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from:         deb <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      martin guitars

greetings,

i'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but a friend of mine told me
about a www site for martin guitars which lists styles and prices.
i haven't checked it out yet but i am eager to.  the address is:

                http://www.mguitar.com

last spring i was in a complete guitar buying mood and was so entranced
by melissa etheridge that i went out and bought a 6 string ovation so i
could have "her sound".  unfortuantley i was not as into ig then, don't
ask me why, lack of exposure i guess,  and now regret not putting the
$900.00 towards a martin.  it is very hard trying to sell or trade an
ovation for a martin.  a friend has a martin and she loans it to me
every once and a while and i dread the days when i have to return it to
her.  i guess i will have to wait another couple of years before i can
afford to drop another grand on a musical instrument.  take care all!!

-deb
doobie@student.umass.edu

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subject:      hello all!

i just joined this list last week and have been listening in with great
interest....it's great to join in with others who know the wonder and
magic of a&e!!  i have to admit i'm a little jealous of all of you who
have been to billions of shows.  to my knowledge the girls don't come to
the pacific northwest very often.  i have been trying to see them live
since 1988 and my first (and only so far) show was the swamp ophelia
tour; i had to drive down to portland from seattle the night before my
finals (summer quarter, august 18, 1994)--my birthday was also the next
day, and even though i missed all productive study time and didn't get
back until 4am, it was the best birthday of my life!! i only know of 4
other shows here in/near seattle and couldn't get to any of them (tacoma
dome in 90?, bumbershoot, and two summer nights at the pier shows--oh
yeah, and jcss was here last summer).  so everyone who lives in the south
and eastern parts of us--be thankful!!

the more i listen the more i am in awe of the heart and talent these
remarkable women possess!!

--gwen

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date:         mon, 4 mar 1996 14:47:59 -0500
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      re: martin guitars [nigc]

well, with all this talk of guitars and martins, i just have to add
my feelings on this matter.

personally i love the sound of a good martin guitar. about 4 years
ago i was looking to buy a decent acoustic guitar. i shopped around a
lot. i looked at guild, takamine, goudin, seagull, louden, washburn,
and a few other brands.

then one day i walked into a pawn shop just as the guy was placing a
martin out for sale. i picked it up and feel in love. it is a 1968
martin d-35. the most beautiful sounding guitar i have ever played.

the loudens i played came in a close second, but this particular
guitar is my favorite. even beating out other martins, including the
shannondoa (sp?).  i think some martins just tend to get a warmer
tone with age.

just my opinion.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
                                  -david st. hubins
'
                    "these go  up to eleven"
                                   -nigel tufnel

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date:         mon, 4 mar 1996 12:39:38 -0800
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subject:      secure yourself

i suppose i missed secure yourself day, but better late than never.
i am not patient enough to wait for it to roll around again.

i always thought it was a moving song, knew all about the connection with a's
cat. my cat died before i knew this though. it would have been a comfort.
spider was 14 and it was a tough time.

anyway the thing about this song was it did give me comfort another time...
mid-april of 95 was the first day of daycare for my 17 mo old son. it was
hard to leave him with "strangers".

i got to work and heard about the oklahoma city bombing. about 2 hours
later i heard that the bomb took out a daycare. oh shit...
i completely and totally lost it. my boss was good enough to open up an
unused office for me. (i work in a public area.) so i sat in there and
cried it out, listening to secure youself over and over.
it helped. i have to stop now, cause i am out here crying and i hope
someone doesn't have to check out a book soon.

paulal

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subject:      re: ids for jazzfest

hi folks!

just wanted to put my .02 in on the jazzfest ideas.  i think jen's idea of using
"folkisgruven" is a great one!  imho, it's a little "classier" than "moo."  no
offense to anyone : )  if this is some inside joke, y'all can feel free to
heckle me about it, but i'm in the dark right now.

also, we may not want to put it on "white" t-shirts.  we should all pick a color
and use the same color, but white may not be the best one.  when i think white
t-shirt, i think "serious dirt attractor ."  hope i didn't step on anyone's
toes!  if so, you can all take turns flaming me later (but show a little mercy
will ya)!

peace,

tamara

******  "i've come to the conclusion that at least 72% of life is spent in a
state of                    total confusion and the other 28% pretending not to
be."  -- t. mizell  ******

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subject:      re: ids for jazzfest

hi again folks!

it's me, the village idiot!  thanks to dan, tour guide to the obvious, i am now
out of the dark on the whole "moo" saying.  it figures that 1200 curfews (the
one ig cd that i don't have) is the one it came from.  well, hearing it in that
context makes the whole idea sound much better to me.  "moo" still might bring
stares at jazzfest, but at least it makes sense to me now.  come to think of it,
it might actually be funny!  either that or "folkisgruven."

anyhow, i just wanted to thank dan for setting me on the right track and
proclaim my  ignorance (which was already apparent) to the group.  now, if
you'll excuse me, i think i have to run out to my local music store and purchase
a copy of a particular cd  before i stick my foot in my mouth anymore!!  take
care y'all!!

peace,

tamara

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subject:      re: songs for the week
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did anyone else notice that we're skipping prince of darkness day
tomorrow?  let's kind of wedge that one in so that tomorrow will be
pod/baf day, okay?

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        "life is a six lane highway and i am a frog."
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> mon:  kid fears
> tues: blood and fire
> wed: tried to be true
> thur: love's recovery  {i can feel cyberspace burning up already)
> fri: we already did land of canaan, so let's do center stage instead. of
> course, feel free to comment about any songs, anytime!

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subject:      (nigc) st. patrick's day concert

to the atlantans on the list (or anyone nearby):
   just so you know, there's a concert on sunday, march 17 at 5 pm in the
decatur high school stadium, featuring kristen hall, the new barleycorn,
and tommy makem.  i've only heard kristen, personally, but the concert
was organized and will be hosted by nanci griffith, so i'm assuming all
of the music will be good.  tickets are $12.50 in advance and $17.50 the
day of the concert.  tickets are on sale through ticketmaster.
-julie
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subject:      new orleans
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a random question...is anyone going from the east coast?
i'm in cambrdge...and i suddenly thought...roadtrip? why not?
-larissa

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subject:      we're everywhere!!!

this little incident classifies under the phrase "neeto moskeeto", a term
used frequently by my bestfriend in 5th grade....

        so i'm calling these various airlines, trying to get a ballpark
figure for a flight to and fro louisiana for the jazzfest on the fourth.
i called southwest, valuesomething (which doesnt service ca.) and (for
some price savings on land) amtrak (which, may i include, would take a
week and a half out of my schedule via train).

        so i call united up, which i swore i'd never do, seeing that they
have a history of firing homosexual pilots for hiv reasons, but you
see...my mind's slipping because i'm kind of going frantic for a decent
fare.  i get this woman on the phone (please keep reading), and she's
kind of dry sounding and whatnot, just trying to work out my itinerary
(sp?) and such...then she's asking me if i want to hold this thing for 24
hours.  i'm figuring that it wont hurt and i say "yeah"...

        so she's asking me for my name and phone number...and i tell her
that i live in sacramento and she takes it down and then (the good
part)...asks me if i have a number in neworleans where i could be reached.

        "uhhhh...the street park?"
        (giggle on the part of both parties...)
        she says "the park bench?"
        and i says "yeah...well, i 'm just going there for a concert"
        "oh really?  who's performing?"
        "the indigo girls"
        and then (....drumroll....)...she gasps, following her gasp with
the following statement:

        "they are the greatest band in the world..."
                could any of us have said it much better?

        so i tell her about this mailing list, the whole 21st birthday
deal, the entire monetary problem and she's interluding (can i use that
word here....or is it intervening, interjecting, or intersection?) with
her trials of trying to see the girls live and whatnot.  she claims she
was probably just not meant to see 'em (as in "them", not ily, as in
emily) live.  i tell her see should go and she says "...i'm writing down
your itinerary right now...i'm there).  so i tell her about the "moo"
t-shirts and  the possible "moo" banner (which i think would be a great
landmark for the listmembers who want to congregate...) and, well, she's
there.

        so if i can't go and there's a woman named mora (or moira)
looking for teri, well, she's the united airlines reservation
operator/indigo girls fan and i hope y'all treat her nice, 'cause she
said the sweetest thing:  "hey, i really hope your plans work out.  they
are the greatest band in the world..."

        gosh, i hope this works out too.

        thanks for reading this far.  if i can't make it, someone's gonna
have to call me (collect if you will) in the middle of either "prince of
darkness", "reunion" (our song), or "tangled up in blue".  my peace out
to all of you.

ccsbzzz,
teri

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subject:      thanx y'all!

just wanted to say thanks for all of those who helped me out with the
info on the no jazzfest.  hope to see you all there!

peace,

sabina

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subject:      re: new orleans

>a random question...is anyone going from the east coast?
>i'm in cambrdge...and i suddenly thought...roadtrip? why not?
>-larissa
>


        when is it?  i might be up to a road trip(i'm a new member by the
way).  i'm in hartford, ct.
                                -leslie


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don't ask me to put words
to all the silences i wrote
in fact, if you have to ask, forget it
do and you'll regret it

                                ani difranco(from "asking too much")

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subject:      re: (nigc) st. patrick's day concert
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just for anyone's information, tommy makem is an irish artist - i have a
couple of cds where he performs with the clancy brothers - i personally
really like him!

on mon, 4 mar 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:

> to the atlantans on the list (or anyone nearby):
>    just so you know, there's a concert on sunday, march 17 at 5 pm in the
> decatur high school stadium, featuring kristen hall, the new barleycorn,
> and tommy makem.  i've only heard kristen, personally, but the concert
> was organized and will be hosted by nanci griffith, so i'm assuming all
> of the music will be good.  tickets are $12.50 in advance and $17.50 the
> day of the concert.  tickets are on sale through ticketmaster.
>  -julie
> _________________________________________________________________
>
>         "life is a six lane highway and i am a frog."
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subject:      tour info

i am in the kansas city, missouri area and wondering when the ig are next
touring. if anyone has any tour info please let me know.


thanks,
suz
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dear sabina:

you wrote.....

>i've never been to one of the ig's shows and
>it happens to be that my friends are not as crazy about them as i am.


i'm going & my friends are the same as yours; so here's my plan...

my brother loves music and is going with me.  he'll do his thing &
i'll do mine & we'll try to do as much together as possible.  he's
not an indigo girls fan, so he'll see them with me at jazzfest (5/2)
and we'll go our separate ways on the eve of 5/4.  i figure that
there might be one or two people from the list at the 5/4 concert, so
i won't be alone.

are you going to nojf & if so, i'll see you there.

melissa

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subject:      re: songs for the week
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wow. i don't know how i missed that. i was using the song list from faq, and
i just looked and pod isn't on it!!! (my cd's are downstairs, and my computer
is upstairs.)
anyhow, let's include that this week too....

angie in kc (feeling like an idiot)

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subject:      re: mona lisas & mad hatters

> and it has a song on it that i've never heard a and e do anywhere else
> called "mona lisas and mad hatters" and it is gorgeous
> and even though they say who it is by i can't tell what they're saying...
> does anyone know?
> thanks!!!
> -larissa

larissa, "mona lisas & mad hatters" is a song by elton john.  yes, it's
beautiful!

i've got a bootleg tape from an ig concert at the university of rochester
(ny) from 1991.  i'm interested in trading copies for other bootlegs (esp
the italian cd's i've been hearing so much about...)  this is a copy from
the original recording done by students at the school's radio station.
it's not a cd, but it's great for a cassette recording.  an excited &
involved crowd.  includes "mona lisa & mad hatters," "romeo & juliet"
before it was released on rites of passage, and "uncle john's band" that
had just come out on the deadicated album.  i'm not sure how the tree is
working out for trading, but if someone contacts me about it, i'd love to
get involved!

btw, i'm so jealous that so many of you are going down to the jazz
festival!  i'm graduating from college on may 4(!), so i unfortunately won't
be there.  can someone offer more info on the newport folk festival, tho?
i'm hoping that i can make it there in august since both ig & ani difranco
will be performing.  (anyone looking for a new, independent, acoustic artist
should check out ani.  does her own independent label, so sometimes hard
to find, but puts on a great show & is establishing a solid following (for
good reason!))

been enjoying my first week on the list.  thanks to all of you.
michael
winthrop university, rock hill, sc

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subject:      ig songs not on their albums

ya'll (pardon my southern) got me thinking about songs released by the
indigo girls on sources other than their own cds.  i know about "uncle
john's band" on the deadicated album, but can anyone tell me about what
other songs are out there on other collaborative works, etc.?  what's
worth tracking down in the stores?

michael
winthrop university, rock hill, sc

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subject:      ig survey results - part 1 - igc
x-cc:         cuffy <cuffy@desktop.com.au>,
              sage lunsford & todd o'reilly <sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net>,
              damon harper <damon_harper@mindlink.bc.ca>

hi folks,

well i've been busily tallying up all the responses to my ig survey -
great response guys!  thank you to everyone who's filled it out.  i've
tallied up 350 peoples' responses so far, with another 50 or so to go,
but i thought i'd post you out a taste of the results so far, just 'cos
i can, and i want to. :)

here is a basic rundown of the response to the igc section of the survey -
i will post more on the results of the nigc section tomorrow.

take care everyone,
sherlyn

===

a very brief summary of some of the results from the "igc" section of the
survey:

(all numbers are votes out of a possible 350.  my comments in brackets
after the listings.  full survey results are available at
http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/results.html.)

* who owns what?                1. swamp ophelia - 333
                                2. rites of passage - 320
                                3. indigo girls - 316

* favourite albums:             1. 1200 curfews - 241
                                2. rites of passage - 188
                                3. swamp ophelia - 155
[fair enough, since 1200c had only just come out at the time this survey
was put up, so it inevitably worked out the most popular.]

* favourite songs:              1. ghost - 111
                                2. closer to fine - 99
                                3. galileo - 93
                                4. power of two - 85
                                5. least complicated - 67
                                6. the wood song - 50
                                7. virginia woolf - 49
                                8. watershed - 46
                                9. mystery, strange fire - 45
[although voters were very evenly divided as to whether they preferred
emily to amy, you'll notice that there's only *one* amy song in the
top 10!  what's with that?]

* favourite amy song:           blood and fire - 26
* favourite emily song:         ghost - 59
* favourite cover song:         tangled up in blue - 50

* least favourite songs:        1. chickenman - 46
                                2. airplane - 39
                                3. 1 2 3 - 22
[i'm surprised 'airplane' didn't come top, actually!]

* how long have you been a fan? 1. 1 - 3 years - 123
                                2. 3 - 5 years - 86
                                3. 5 - 7 years - 83
[which means that most people would probably have been introduced to the
igs through the swamp ophelia album, which fits in with the results of
the "who owns what?" question].

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piquet the cat - piquet@geko.net.au; aka sherlyn koo - sherlyn@geko.net.au
        "how i long to fall, just a little bit -
         to dance out of the lines and stray from the light.
         but i fear that to fall in love with you is to fall
            from a great and gruesome height..."
                - dar williams, "iowa"
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subject:      2nd story

hey, ya'll.
        i was just wondering if anyone knew if a&e live or used to live in a
second story apartment.  this seems to be a recurring theme in their songs.
blood and fire: "...leaning over ledges only two flights up."
least complicated: "i sit two stories above the street..."
or is there some other deeper symbolism that i'm not getting?
just wondering!

peace,

keith

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 04:41:54 -0800
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from:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
subject:      re: "blood and fire"-nigc, really, anymore....

thanks to everyone who mailed me about mona lisas and mad hatters!!
i called my sweetie the minute i knew  it was elton john because she loves
him and i used to tease her about it but then i fell in love with this
song...she says she can still convert me into an elton fan...hee hee

anyways

thanks yall!

-larissa

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 07:50:47 -0500
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from:         "benjamin s. hay." <hayben@aol.com>
subject:      re: df list
x-to:         mongiovi@remus.rutgers.edu

i tried to subscribe to the df list not long ago, and was told that said list
was not for public access...(???)

the postcard i just got via their snail mail list gives an email address to
send snail mail addresses to, but nothing about an email list.

if you find their email list again, please let us know.

peace, love, chocolate...

neb

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reply-to:     amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
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from:         amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
subject:      pod / baf

hi all

ok, this is the day i've been waiting for to de-lurk !   pod/baf day, made me
smile when they had to be on the same day cause in my head ( just behind the
cobwebs ) they're the same song, i seem to have the lines mixed together.  they
remind me of a not too great time so i didn't listen to them for about 2 years
after and it was getting on this list a month ago  which made me go back to
them.  like a lot of ig songs i took the words that connected to where i was and
not the real meaning, sometimes when i really listen to all the lyrics i'm
surprised at what they mean, usually nothing to do with where i've put them  !

i only picked up all my ig albums last weekend when i was visiting home ( london
), before that being on the list i would hear all the lines from the songs, just
remember what they sounded like and feel the tingles as the sounds came to me, i
think only kate bush can turn me inside out, lift me and make me sad like the
ig.


anyway nuff waffling, good to be here

happily confused
amit

ps  anyone here from london ?..... england ? .... ( nothing if not optimistic !
)
pps does anyone know of any good mail order stores in the states where i can
order us cds before they get to the uk ( 1200c "should" turn up this week ! )

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 07:57:42 cst
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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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subject:      secure yourself...amy's cat???

i've read that amy's cat was the inspiration behind 'secure yourself'?  is
that true?  what's the whole story.  gee, i'll have to re-read those
lyrics.

love your computer... (right dan?)
- jen hall


                (forgive me, i'm trying to think of a better signoff then "take
care"..)

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subject:      re: 2nd story
x-to:         isbelpk@okra.millsaps.edu

i thought i had read an article that stated that amy lived away from the
city in the woods, but emily was a city person living in downtown (or close
to ) atlanta - and she did, in fact, live in a 2nd story apartment.

- jen hall
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from keith isbell <isbelpk@okra.millsaps.edu>, on 3/5/96 1:59 am:
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hey, ya'll.
        i was just wondering if anyone knew if a&e live or used to live in
a
second story apartment.  this seems to be a recurring theme in their songs.
blood and fire: "...leaning over ledges only two flights up."
least complicated: "i sit two stories above the street..."
or is there some other deeper symbolism that i'm not getting?
just wondering!

peace,

keith

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subject:      re: new orleans

>leslie-
>its in may, early may. i ferget the exact date.
>-larissa

        then, i most likely have finals and would be unable to go.  if it's
the second, like i think someone said, it would mean driving down there in
less than a day, something i'm not sure is all that probable, and coming
back in about the same time. i might just have to wait till the newport
folk festival in august.  you going there?
                                        leslie


______________________________________________________________________________


don't ask me to put words
to all the silences i wrote
in fact, if you have to ask, forget it
do and you'll regret it

                                ani difranco(from "asking too much")

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 08:42:58 -0600
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subject:      hotels in slidell for nojf

        several people have been asking for hotel alternatives outside
of no.  i live in slidell which is about 20min from downtown across the lake.
for those with cars,  this may be a viable alternative.  the following is
taken out of my aaa guide, so prices may vary.

        comfort inn:
        1p: 58-85,  2p/1b: 64-85,  2p/2b: 74-85, xp: 5
        504-641-4147

        days inn:
        ip:45-50, 2p1b: 50-65, 2p2b:50-65, xp 5
        504-641-3450

        econo lodge:
        1p: 40-85, 2p/1b: 45-85,  2p/2b: 45-85,  xp 5
        504-641-2153

        la quinta:
        1p: 58, 2p/1b: 64, 2p/2b:66, xp 6
        504-643-9970

        ramada inn:
        1p:49, 2p/1b: 49, 2p/2b:49 xp:8
        504-643-9960

        there is also a motel six which is avertising $33.00 for a single.
        they are not in the book however.

        for those willing to pack it in, the ramada would be about $18.00 a
        night.  a rental car/4 would be around $8 a day, and you will have
        freedom to roam.

        hope this helps


        sylvia

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subject:      happy birthday!!!     (march 5, 1996)
x-cc:         doryd@tourolaw.edu

happy birthday!!  may your place be of the sun today!  :)))

doryd@tourolaw.edu
"prince of darkness"

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subject:      re: ig video moments

hey y'all!

i'm new at this, so let me introduce myself.  my name's tasha, and ig have
been my favorite group forever!  to respond to the question of favorite
parts in watershed, my favorite part is when amy is in the middle of
answering a question and emily is looking at her, smiling, with a totally
different idea.  finally amy looks at her, and is like, "go ahead."  i love
how they react to each other in that part!

has anyone caught the concert on the disney channel?  just curious...

fare thee well,
tasha

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 07:47:24 -0800
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subject:      re: kid fears

>hello! no flame intended here, just wanted to let you know the lyrics are
>actually "pain from pearls" - might change your interpretation slightly, or
>give it even more meaning!
>
>peace
>anna
>hey all... i got this message this morning... thanked anna... but my face
>is even redder than i thought it would be when i ventured to post. as
>always... the gal who just doesn't quite fit in : )
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i think that's a good idea..... whether we wear "folkisgruven" or
"moo" -whatever.....
id id good.
anyone else?
-mandy

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subject:      re: ig: which martins? -reply
x-to:         mmessner@step.mother.com

hi everyone,
i've only been on this list a couple of weeks and
have really enjoyed everyone's comments and
ideas.  this one however i needed to reply to!  i
looked at martins the last time i bought a guitar
and of course they're very nice!  i would like to
suggest, however, that if you're in the buying
mood you take a look at a taylor.  they are
hand made and their sound is incredible.  mine
just sounds better every time i play it.  i have a
cutaway that ran me about 1200, which is
martin territory.  a guitar is a great purchas
(and an expensive one)  make sure you get the
one you like the best.  happy shopping!

     becky

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subject:      the latest on indicated iii

indicated iii will be coming out soon but here's a list of the songs
submitted to me.  this will be very close to the final song list but i'll
probably replace a few of these songs with leftovers from indicated ii
submittals i never used.

scot ninneman           hand me downs, mystery, walk away (with rob sticka)

rob augino              thin line, hey jesus, land of canaan, center stage

katie mccurry           hand me downs

neil hunt               mystery, ghost

lorinda wright          three hits, welcome me, blood and fire

greg flamer             strange fire

julie goldman           everybody's waiting for someone to come home

phil norman             love will come to you

rob sticka              walk away (with scot ninneman), hammer and a nail,
power of two, world falls

pamela shaw             blood and fire

ann mahasaen            finlandia, uncle john's cabin

to minimize my administrative burden, i'm looking for tape tree volunteers.
i'm expecting 60-70 initial requests for this tape and it'd be great to have
3 or 4 others to help distribute the tape.

please do not send me tape requests yet.  i'm guessing that the tape will
not be ready for another week or two. once i make the final song selection,
the tape inserts have to be made.


rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
goddard space flight center
greenbelt, maryland  20771

hubble space telescope project
flight assurance manager
phone:  301-286-8455
fax:  301-286-1779

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subject:      the latest on crazy game guitar stuff

scot ninneman, ann mahasaen, and i have created the definitive guitar
version of crazy game and it's about ready to be posted to the list.  get
those fingers ready to play some mean chords!!

rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
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greenbelt, maryland  20771

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fax:  301-286-1779

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subject:      a little story
x-to:         bhullett@mgm.ms.ch2m.com

well,  i think you would all be interested to know
that i met es in atlanta at the women's final four
basketball tournament.  my friends and i are
sitting in the bleachers at the omni talking about
how cool it would be to run into the ig since we
were on their home turf.  about 20 minutes later
my partner points a couple of sections over and
says "hey, isn't that es?"  we borrow some
binoculars and sure enough it's her.  we go
ripping out of our seats and try to get to her
section which has security everywhere and
won't let us down to her without aa ticket stub
saying we have seats in that section.  so we go
back to our seats and keep watching her.  right
before the game is over we see her get up and
head for the door.  so again, we bolted down
the stairs to the concourse nd waited for her to
come out.  my partner walks right up to her and
says " you're es"  and she says "yes" and my
partner says "hi i'm j".  i am so absolutely
excited and dumbfounded that i'm standing less
than two feet away from her, that i can't say
anything.  she shakes our hands and leaves.
of course my friends won't let me live it down
that i was too excited to say anything,  so
technically i guess i didn't meet her, but my
partner did and i was right there!  believe me i
will never let that go by again!  i'm such a
moron!  just wanted to share that with you all.


becky

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subject:      uncle john's band correction

yes, i made a mistake...the song on indicated iii by ann mahasaen should be
"uncle john's band".

rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
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hubble space telescope project
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fax:  301-286-1779

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subject:      b and f

about a month i found out that a very close friend of mine, a truly
wonderful person, who really introduced life and the indigo girls to me,
had tried to commit sucide . . . all i could do was drive in my car with
the tape deck blaring this song, tears streaming down my face . . . he
taught me so much about love and people and about myself, and was and
still is someone who i lookup to very much.  he was able to conquer the
greatest challenge of all . . . the will to live.  my only wish, that i
could have been there for him, but half of the united states stands
between us . . .


rachel

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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      re: ig award dinner on saturday night

in a message dated 96-03-04 11:06:51 est, you write:
>a glitzy hollywood event
>they were introduced
>by the two women who play the lesbian couple on
>"friends."  they were dressed as their characters from a
>recent wedding episode

that's scary.
hasta la bye bye!
claire    >get car ! get car!< (the producers)

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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      baf

blood and fire. this is an instensely emotional song for me. i have
always interpreted the first part "i have spent nights with matches
and knives, leaning over ledges only two flights up" to be about
contemplating suicide. this part gets me every damned time i hear the
song.

ok, this is going to get really personal (what *me* get personal!)
so if you aren't into really presonal revelations, please skip this.

this song gets me for a lot of reasons. one is that i lost a really really close
friend to suicide a few years ago. this man and i had grown up together since
3rd grade. we were both misfits and outcasts in school. after school we lived
together and were lovers for awhile. unfortunately neither one of us was very
comfortable with being open about what we felt for each other. i never told this
man how much i loved him. so, we went our seperate ways about 7 years
ago. i always thought that i would see him again. i always thoughtthat i would
get the chance to say the things i had always  meant to say. then one night about
4 years ago my mother called me and told me this man had committed suicide.
i have spent alot of time trying to deal with his death and the fact that i will
never see him, never be able to tell him the things i should have told him. as a
songwriter myself i have tried to write songs to deal with it. i have come close
to expressing what i felt through song. amy came closer.

the pain and anguish and longing in this song is so intense, and so
personal to me. when amy sings "i have spent nights with matches and
knives.." i always want to tell her, that i have been there with her.
sitting on that ledge, holding that knife. you are not alone amy, and
through you i am not alone either.

i am always so amazed that amy can sing such a deeply personal,
emotionally raw and exposed song, and then put herself out there for
everyone to see.. what amazing courage that takes.

thank you all for reading this and giving me the opportunity to
express myself in this forum. sorry if this got too heavy.

peace and love,

dan

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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      re: martin guitars

i've been reading with great interest the discussion
about nice guitars. i was feeling pretty pleased with
my little old $500 washburn but now i'm not so sure.
but hey, my guitar teacher/advisor helped me pick
it out and said that each guitar has its own sound,
and my washburn sounded better than some of the
more expensive ones in the shop (the martins were
behind a roped off area and out o' my price range
so i didn't try them) i expect nothing short of a
transformative experience when i finally get to play
(own) a martin :)
what is ment by " has more songs it them" ?
explain please. also, what brand of strings do a&e use?
hasta!
claire
>coke and tuna boots and roses from russ....ia< (l.nyro)

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from:         digest camille kearl <sl6tc@cc.usu.edu>
subject:      not much igc but need advice

first, a couple of comments regarding the survey results that were recently
posted.  i was shocked to see chickenman and airplane listed as least favorite
ig songs.  okay, i guess if you have to pick a "worst" song, none of them are
bad in my opinion but, airplane is in fact not the greatest but you have to
just laugh at the lyrics, it makes me smile everytime i hear it.  the line
about the bubble gum wrapper/fortune 'what you think won't happen will, great
thing to read before a ride in an airplane' that is hilarious!  also, i wouls
have to argue that unless you have seen chickenman performed live, give it
a chance and don't put it on the 'worst' song list just yet.  seeing it live
changed my perception of the song forever, and it is now one of my favorites

that was just my .02 of igc, what i really need is to know if some of you are
residents of the san diego area.  spring break is rapidly approaching and my
cousin and i are heading to the sunny state of california.  we will be in
san diego from march 14 - march 21.  are there any good shows in the area
during this time?  a chance of getting tickets still?  how about some bars that
have good live music?  any information would be great.  my cousin is great on
the guitar and we will be having a sing a long or two of our own so let me
know if you want to join us.  it would be great to get to know some of you
who live in the area.  thanks for everything, this list keeps me sane as i
continue to struggle through grad school!
please respond privately
sl6tc@cc.usu.edu              cami

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subject:      nigc - new cd

hey y'all!
sorry to take up space here...but....i absolutely _had_ to tell you all about
a cd being released today.  it's by the nields, called "gotta get over greta",
and it's absolutely amazing!!! wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!  anyhoo, it's on razor
and tie records, so if ya get a chance, take a look!   :)

*smile*
sue

yeah, sweetie...i'm smilin' at you!!!! :)

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sue writes:

> hey y'all!  sorry to take up space here...but....i absolutely _had_ to
> tell you all about a cd being released today.  it's by the nields,
> called "gotta get over greta", and it's absolutely amazing!!!
> wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!  anyhoo, it's on razor and tie records, so if ya
> get a chance, take a look!  :)

i'll second this =) actually, the one thing i was disappointed about
it was the song selection-- no "capture the flag" and "that's all" and
including "cowards" (which they released on abigail).  "that's all" is
a personal thing for me -- it's sorta "kim's and my song" (for those
of you who know the song, you know just how twisted that actually is).
we were both getting over bad relationships and were at nields concert,
that's all came on, and well.. um....  we've been dating 7 months now. =)

oh well, i'll plead with nerissa =)  anyway, do buy the album--it rocks
and has great lyrics.  then get "bob on the ceiling."

ok enough plugs for the day.....

                        laters,

                           chris

p.s.  thanks to all of you whom wished me luck in munich.  my talk
went very well (and i may have a lead on a postdoc in germany *bounce*)

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on the topic of least liked songs....  not to be totally negative, but...
lets face it, some are better than others.  (could this be a new
thread?)  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
"123"
"hand me downs"
"center stage"
"cedar tree"
uhhh.... i can't think of many more now, but....
any thoughts, comments?
-mandy
ps- "hammer and nail" isn't a favorite of mine either... is it just me,
or does it sound a bit pretentious?  a little to p.c.?

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          ok, i must comment on baf for today.  i must say that it was
          one of the last songs i listened to on ig.  i think that the
          fact that you can skip cd tracks makes me miss a lot of
          songs that i'm sure i would like just as much as baf.  i was
          in a situation where i needed a new song to just let my
          spirit bleed with and i happened upon baf.  i must say i
          felt like i had really missed something by not listening to
          it all those months. then when one of my good friends got my
          latul and i saw her perform it with such emotion and vocal
          power, i thought that life could not get much better.  i
          watched it a few times with different friends, always
          getting that feeling that i am sure you all know about when
          you introduce a new ig item to the masses, then i looked at
          emily during that song.  i love the way she just sits back
          and watches out of respect for amy.  that says everything,
          to me, about them as a group.  they have the ultimate
          respect for one another's music.  that in itself is amazing.
          later,
          rich

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on  5 mar 96 at 13:08, claire johnson wrote:
> what is ment by " has more songs it them" ?
> explain please. also, what brand of strings do a&e use?
>

as a songwriter myself this is how i intreprete the "has more songs
in them" qoute. inspiration for writing can come from a lot of
places. including the tone and feel of an instrument. if your guitar
is a great joy to play, you will play it more often. the tone of the
instrument often, at least for me, sets to some degree the tone of
the song.

for instance when i was writing on electric guitar i wrote mostly
rock and blues rock type of songs, when i switched to acoustic (a
yamaha at first) i started writing different types of songs, and
started writing less songs (mostly because the yamaha was not a good
guitar and hence i did not play it much).

my martin and i have produced more country rock, folk rock type of
songs. because it is a joy to  hold and to  play i tend to play more
often, and hence have become more familiar with the guitar and what i
can and can't do.

on the subject of songwriting, one of the things that i have found is
switching instruments can often produce songs i might not have
written on my main writing instrument (guitar).

for example, a few years ago i was in a dry spell. could not write
anything. so i started taking piano lessons, and lo and behold i
found that i could write songs on the piano. being a bassist i have
also written songs on bass that i never would have thought of on a
guitar.

well, that's my rather long winded opinion.

peace

dan perkins
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a note both to dan and others about baf, dan, your post struck lots of cords
in me, having been close to suicidal and never having really gotten up the
nerve, and having lost a friend that way too, this song is so important...
this one and virginia woolf were the ones that got me through the very worst
times. i was just imagining what i would say if i got to meet emily saliers
(because one of the posrts-i forget who now met her at that basketball game)
and i realized i would say the same thing to each of them, "your music has
saved me. literally. thank you more than i can say" or something like that.
sigh,
peace,
larissa

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> "123"
> "hand me downs"
> "center stage"
> "cedar tree"

mandy, i'll have to beg to differ here.  "123" isn't one of my
favorites either, but "hand me downs" is. i especially love the part
where they sing 'everything i truly love i love in you and i love in
me' -- now that isharmony.
also, i don't know if anyone else feels this way, but sometimes i
feel that nis as an album is very different from the rest of the
girls' work. i don't like it any less, but it seems to me dissociated
from their other albums. i don't really know why. but that's just me.
amy

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

<putting away all the sharp objects to avoid temptation to act on the
feelings i get when anyone says anything against 'cedar tree' :)  >

i know this is probably better left to the officially designated "cedar
tree" day, but that's too far off and i just _had_ to but in my $.02 worth
of defense for it....and besides, we shouldn't feel outlawed from discussing
other songs just because it's not their assigned "day", right?

anyway, i'm sorry mandy, but i just have to disagree about cedar tree.  to
me this is one of the most intensely beautiful songs ig (or anyone) has
wrote.  i just sense a real depth of feeling in this song, real
beauty--every time i hear it i'm constatly amazed by how beautiful it is.
and it puts me at peace, too, like few other songs can.  "i stand where you
stood, i stand for bad or good, and i am green and you are wood"....i just
love it, something about it, that i'm doing a terrible job of articulating.
i especially love it now that spring is here--it's definately a
springy/summery kinda song.  and i also think that the
instrumentation/arrangement is some of the best/most refreshing they've
done.  okay, enough for now, i'm sure i'll come out and gush some more when
it _is_ the official "cedar tree" day....hope y'all don't mind this trek off
the beaten path......

peace
cylinda

at 01:58 pm 3/5/96 -0500, you wrote:
>on the topic of least liked songs....  not to be totally negative, but...
>lets face it, some are better than others.  (could this be a new
>thread?)  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
>regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
>"123"
>"hand me downs"
>"center stage"
>"cedar tree"
>uhhh.... i can't think of many more now, but....
>any thoughts, comments?
>-mandy

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these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> "123"
> "hand me downs"
> "center stage"
> "cedar tree"

yeah, i'll agree that hand me downs still kicks ass as far as ig
standards, but the others i always skip over, or, a lot of the time... i
always thought that 1-2-3 was just such an obnoxious song...  the only
part i do love from that song is "the basement lies within us..."
whoever that is (i totally forget, someone from the ejs?) that sings it
kicks ass!  :)

renee

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, half pint wrote:

> on the topic of least liked songs....  not to be totally negative, but...
> lets face it, some are better than others.  (could this be a new
> thread?)  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> "123"
> "hand me downs"
> "center stage"
> "cedar tree"
> any thoughts, comments?

ok, each to their own....but i really like "hand me downs", "center
stage", and "cedar tree"....and i love "hammer and a nail" (i don't see
it as too p.c.; for me, it's uplifting, motivating). i like "123" too, but
not as much.

i've always really liked hmd...great drumbeat, great cat-like scream,
super guitar part (imo, anyway). and i love that deep drumbeat in cedar tree
and the, well, *simplicity* of the song. "center stage"--i guess it's the
furious energy behind the song & intriguing lyrics. "...the higher the
leap--i said the harder the ground!"  i'd greatly miss these songs if
someone made me a tape and left them off!

"hammer and a nail":  the attitude conveyed by this song is, for me, a
big part of what a & e are all about. yeah, it reaches ig standards and
then some, as far as i'm concerned. i love the song, but wasn't wild
about the video for it...a *good* video, but not at *all* what i think of
when i hear this song! i saw it for the first time about a month ago
(on the watershed video) and was expecting something completely
different for this song, i guess. anyone else feel the same way about the
han video?

ok...'nuff 4 2day.

buenas tardes, hasta, y abrazos....

christine   =)

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hi. let me first introduce myself. my names kristal and i am tragiclly
stuck in college station, tx. i absolutly love and adore, not to mention
highly respect the indigo girls, and always have. that said i'll continue
with my response.
        i saw that center stage was put on the least loved list and was
very confused. i found this song to be very masterful and pregnent with
all kinds of meaning. i ecspecially love it when they are sining
different lyrics, but it twines together beautifully. i am not sure if i
understand what a is saying but i do know i like it.

love luck and lollipops or tootsie rolls for cylinda
kristal
kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu

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this is probably the first one everyone will think of...their cover of "i
don't wanna talk about it" on the philadelphia soundtrack is really
nice.--gwen

on tue, 5 mar 1996, michael valenta wrote:

> ya'll (pardon my southern) got me thinking about songs released by the
> indigo girls on sources other than their own cds.  i know about "uncle
> john's band" on the deadicated album, but can anyone tell me about what
> other songs are out there on other collaborative works, etc.?  what's
> worth tracking down in the stores?
>
> michael
> winthrop university, rock hill, sc
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i am new here to the list (i subscribed today) and saw that someone wrote
about "least favorite" ig songs.

i must agree with the airplane being the "worst" of the ig but i love
"chickenman" its definitely one of my favorites... not my fav. but one of
the top ig songs in my book... just thought i'd share...

ailecia, aka the goddess of venus

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in a message dated 96-03-05 11:50:06 est,becky writes:

> i met es in atlanta at the women's final four
>basketball tournament.
ect..ect...
my experience with regards to coming accross celebrities
in public is this:
#: the scale always throws me off, the celebrity allways seems smaller.
#2: i scrunch up my face and think real hard, "i know this person,
hmmm...school? a party ? a friend of a friend? damn, where do
i know them from?"
#3: it rarely occurs to me that they are someone i recognize through
the media.
#4: embarrassed at not remembering their name, i avoid them.
#5: if by some chance i "get" who they are (and i don't know them,
which is generally the case with celebrities,) i avoid them.
now i don't want to start anything, but as a gentle suggestion, i think
that its only polite to give a famous person some space when they
are in the public arena. i can only imagine that if i were famous
and people that i didn't know were always approaching me,
it would make me a little jumpy. i once saw es try to quietly walk
abut 100 feet to a golf cart and people actually started screaming
and running towards her. i'm not sure, but i thought  saw her cringe.
(i know i would have.)
just my 2 cents.
(please don't be mad at me.)
claire

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

regarding the han video..

       i wasn't totally impressed with it..i mean, i liked it, but i
thought it didn't completely fit...my friend bob says it has too much
of an '80's influence for ig...he also doesn't like emily in those
overalls though..*shrug*.  i _do_ like how amy goes wild and whips of
her clothes and dances over her guitar and all that stuff..:)

                                         peace and bless y'all,
                                      shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

ok ok i know i have been posting my ass of today... but here i go
again..

in regards to the song 1,2,3 on nis i have to respectfully disagree
with those who don't like it.. imho this song totally and completely
kicks major butt. i think this is a major rocking song.

on cedar tree, i also like this song a lot, very peacefull, kind of
connected to the past, the earth, kind of song... in my opinion. it
took me awhile to get to like this song, but now i love when it
finally comes on...

center stage is another one of my favorites, and another one that
took me awhile to get to like..

hmmmm... i wonder if the taking awhile to get to like thing has
anything to do with the fact that these songs come at the end of the
cd... i don't always listen to a cd completely through. usually start
a cd listen to the first 5 or 6 songs and switch cds... hmmmm...

anyhow, just adding my $ 0.03 worth.

peace

dan perkins
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subject:      baf

i have heard that amy will no longer play/sing baf.  does anyone know the story behind this?  why won't she sing it anymore?

alycia

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

i like the h&n video and i think the video is fitting.  the studio that
they are in belongs to an artist that works with his hands (as opposed to
painting with a brush).  thus the lyrics:

i gotta get out of bed
get a hammer and a nail
learn how to use my hands
not just my head

i guess that's why i thought that shooting the video in his studio was
clever.

see ya!
- jen hall
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on tue, 5 mar 1996, half pint wrote:

> on the topic of least liked songs....  not to be totally negative, but...
> lets face it, some are better than others.  (could this be a new
> thread?)  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> "123"
> "hand me downs"
> "center stage"
> "cedar tree"
> any thoughts, comments?

ok, each to their own....but i really like "hand me downs", "center
stage", and "cedar tree"....and i love "hammer and a nail" (i don't see
it as too p.c.; for me, it's uplifting, motivating). i like "123" too, but
not as much.

i've always really liked hmd...great drumbeat, great cat-like scream,
super guitar part (imo, anyway). and i love that deep drumbeat in cedar
tree
and the, well, *simplicity* of the song. "center stage"--i guess it's the
furious energy behind the song & intriguing lyrics. "...the higher the
leap--i said the harder the ground!"  i'd greatly miss these songs if
someone made me a tape and left them off!

"hammer and a nail":  the attitude conveyed by this song is, for me, a
big part of what a & e are all about. yeah, it reaches ig standards and
then some, as far as i'm concerned. i love the song, but wasn't wild
about the video for it...a *good* video, but not at *all* what i think of
when i hear this song! i saw it for the first time about a month ago
(on the watershed video) and was expecting something completely
different for this song, i guess. anyone else feel the same way about the
han video?

ok...'nuff 4 2day.

buenas tardes, hasta, y abrazos....

christine   =)

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 13:52:23 -0800
reply-to:     gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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it's kinda a touchy issue, dontcha think?  i had considered "hand me
downs" but i love the chorus too much (it's too personal not to like it:
'all with hope/that emptiness brings fullness/and loss of love brings
wholeness to us all')  "center stage"--i had owned the album for nearly a
year before i realized the juxtapositon of "sing a song of sixpence" with
the lyrics--i think it's brilliant.

i do have to argue on behalf of "hammer and a nail"--i never saw it as
pretentious.  rather, i can relate to living life too mentally, not
getting out and doing the stuff that i dream up all day long.

just my $0.02 worth.--gwen

on tue, 5 mar 1996, half pint wrote:

> on the topic of least liked songs....  not to be totally negative, but...
> lets face it, some are better than others.  (could this be a new
> thread?)  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> "123"
> "hand me downs"
> "center stage"
> "cedar tree"
> uhhh.... i can't think of many more now, but....
> any thoughts, comments?
> -mandy
> ps- "hammer and nail" isn't a favorite of mine either... is it just me,
> or does it sound a bit pretentious?  a little to p.c.?
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from:         karrie bowen <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
subject:      nigc-ani di franco

for anyone in the upstate new york area who is looking for good places to
get rare/imports/used cd's and boots in the new york wilderness (haha), here
are a few places i have found in my travels.....

binghamton ny -   music city
vestal ny  -  music plus
ithaca ny  -  rebop records in collegetown.  this place is great.  they have
              a lot of folk/indie/grassroots/progressive everything anyone
              could want.... and they support ani di franco to the utmost.
              they also buy and sell used, and have a lot of boots on cd.
ithaca ny  -  discount records in collegetown.

if you go to music city in binghamton, be prepared to find stuff you never
thought you would see, and if you don't see something you know exists, ask
benny to order it.... he is a very cool guy.

and if you go to rebop, after you have picked up every ani di franco album
your little arms can carry, check out the local scene of annie burns and
the rain, donna the buffalo, and a two girl duo called amy and leslie.

later guys.  i am going on spring break tomorrow, so if you are gonna mail
me and you find it something that can't wait, try to do it by noon on wed.
i'm sure, however, nothing is that pressing that it cannot either sit in
my mailbox or wait until march 17th.  besides, i'm going to be much too
busy seeing disappear fear at the haunt in ithaca to worry about the ever
growing number of messages in my email account 300 miles away! *big smile*
nothing makes me happier than a good concert!!!!!!

take it easy!!!!
karrie

               "water retention is not new to me.."
                        -emily saliers

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subject:      re: ig songs not on their albums
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michael,
        check out the "mountain stage" series for "love's recovery
(lv)".   there's the theodore compilation and the stanley compilation
and one of them has a great live version of "pushing the needle too
far".  i think someone mentioned last week the peta cd, where the girls
did a duet (or is a triplet) with michael stipe called "i'll give you my
skin".  also, there's the recently released "outloud" cd with a live
version of "this train" and the spirit of '73, with their cover of
ferron's "it won't take long".

        my favorite though is the ben and jerry's newport folk festival
cd with the girls version of simon and garfunkel's "american tune".  i
think this version is better than the "history of us" version.  is it me,
or does the hou version of "american tune" kind of drop down half a step
at the "and i dreamed i was flying...."?

        oooh, and i can't forget the ring them bells cd, the joan baez
and friends project.  i fell in love with emily's voice again when i
heard that version of "don't think twice, it's alright".  beautiful.

ccsbzzz,
teri

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i don't post a lot, so i'm slowly delurking, but i think this is reason
enough. on the lines of cd's, one that i just got is by diane ward titled
"mirrors." i have this vague feeling that she may have been mentioned
previously, so sorry if this is all rehash, but if not let me advise you
to check her out if she ever comes to your town. down here in little ol'
augusta ga you don't get a lot coming through, but i'm definitely glad i
caught her concert last thurs. night. i met her after the show and
besides being a talented musician/singer/songwriter, she is super nice.
she gave me one of her cds, signed and all. i guess she could be best
described as a little like m.e. and occasionally has the croonings of kd.
i don't really know what kind of availability her cd has, but like i
said, if she comes around, don't miss it. another plug for an interesting
band is fleming and john. they're playing conan o'brian april 2. i also
met the lead singer fleming, who, you guessed it, is super nice too.
unfortunately sound equipment problems kept them from playin', but she
too gave me a cd to check out. they're a little trickier to describe, but
along the more ethereal (sp?) lines i suppose with some funky things
thrown in here and there. anyway, thanks for reading! y'all take care!

pam :)

madness has its toll.
please have correct change.

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subject:      re: ig songs not on their albums

another cd that i don't thinks been mentioned yet is the new mongrels "not
dead (yet)".  it's a group of musicians from the atlanta and seattle areas
who got together to record songs written by singer/songwriter haynes brooke.
ig sing backup and play on a number of songs, and amy takes the lead vocals
on one song, "9 fingers to go".  i really like this cd, a lot of the songs
are fun, and some are just downright beautiful.    okay, enough pluggin' for
today.....

peace
cylinda
                          "we act empty and innocent but we are fueled
                            by distortions of lives led in discontent"
                                 -amy ray

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subject:      a bunch of stuff...

i wanted to condense all my responses/thoughts to one (actually, this is my
second post).  i'll try to be short....i just finished two midterms and
i'm beat.
        1.  hand me downs, cedar tree, and centerstage are great songs.
        2.  thanks to everyone who's responded to my new orleans ordeal.
            whoa...i feel the love.  you guys are great.
        3.  strings:  emily uses d'addario light gauge and amy uses
                      martim mediums  (not sure if it's the marquis line)
        4.  why isn't "reunion" on piquet's top 10 song list????
        4.  ***prince of darkness day***  (see below)

        this is that "special place in my heart" song, the one ig song
that transcends "my favorites".  sure, emily has written better songs
since, mystery being my favorite.  she's gotten musically better and
lyrically in my opinion.  but i gotta tell you, pod was the song that
hooked me.  i've been a fan ever since.

        i discovered a lot of things that never occured to me as a
musician.  "wow?  two people can sing different lines at the same time?
(e.g.:  my place is of the sun/by grace my sight, etc.)???  "wow!  she
put the chorus as the intro to the song?"  "gee whiz!!!  you don't have
to have a guitar solo for a kick ass song!!!" (the lingering traces of my
pop metal phase as a young teen...).  all this stuff.

        all that aside, it has one of the greatest lines ever "by grace,
my sight grows stronger".  i have a sticker that says that on the back of
my head stock on my guitar.  it's sung perfectly.  it reminds to keep
faith, because that's the only way to see the real darn truth.

        i am still awaiting the day that i see them play this live
(neworleans or not).  i want to see emily sing that last line, belt it.
"by grace my sight is growing stronger..."

        prince of darkness is the reason i love the indigo girls.

still asking providence the same questions,
teri

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, all hail the goddess of venus *a.k.a. on earth: ailecia* wrote:

> i must agree with the airplane being the "worst" of the ig but i love

everyone has different taste buds--i happen to really like airplane.  i
would tend not to say that 123, for instance, is "the worst" just
because it happens to be one of the songs that i don't really like.
ithink it's important to recognize that our opinions about their music
are just that, not an inherent quality of any particular song.

lisa

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subject:      baf

hi!  (again)
when i woke up this morning i was sooo excited that it was baf day that i
jumped out of bed and put it in my cd player!  i love this song because it is
so raw and emotional.  my favorite line is "i am intense i am in need i am in
pain i am in love".   ooohhh - it just gives me chills.  the latul version is
great because you can actually experience amy's pain and intensity.

jenny


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change"         ani difranco

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:) while we're on the topic of cool new cd's i have to mention that i got the
new aimee mann cd "i'm with stupid" and it's soooooooooooooooooooooooo
great!!!!!!!!!!!! :) maybe not as crucial as "everything's different now" from
when she was with 'til tuesday, but that album is close to perfection to me. :)
it's great!!!
rick

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subject:      re: baf

>hi!  (again)
>when i woke up this morning i was sooo excited that it was baf day that i
>jumped out of bed and put it in my cd player!  i love this song because it is
>so raw and emotional.  my favorite line is "i am intense i am in need i am in
>pain i am in love".   ooohhh - it just gives me chills.  the latul version is
>great because you can actually experience amy's pain and intensity.
>
>jenny


i agree!  actually, baf was the only song i had to get used to before i
could like it.  the first time or so i heard it, it kind of scared me - all
the loud and stuff.  then i thought about it and realised that there would
be no other possible way to sing it.  it's pretty righteous.

january simpson
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except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
ben

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subject:      re: pod / baf
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on tue, 5 mar 1996, amit gandhi wrote:

> ps  anyone here from london ?..... england ? .... ( nothing if not optimistic !
> )

yeah, me ... i'm studying at the moment in aberystwyth but i come from
croydon, surrey ...

mat

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>except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
>because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
>while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
>ben

well, i love that album, even 123...i think the reason a lot of people are
not too fond of it is because it is so different from the music before and
after it.  it was kind of transitional in a way...i didn't really like rop
when i first listened to it because it seemed so --- kind of un-indigo.
but it has certainly grown on me.  anyway, yes, i think nis is one of their
best.

january simpson
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subject:      bof

"i am intense, i am in need, i am in pain, i am in love."

the raw emotion in this song touches me deeply.  as a survivor of sexual
abuse, "i have spent nights with matches and knives" has a different meaning
for me than those who think of suicide.  often sexual abuse victims will self
inflict wounds. (studies have been done).  during my trek of healing and of
finding myself, i feel often as if i am reduced to nothing but blood and
fire.  the intensity overwhelms me, my need is very apparent, and the pain
only makes being in love sweeter.  having recently lost a lover the words "i
am looking for someone, who can takes as much as i give, give back as much as
i need, and still have the will to live" touch me deeply.  those are my
thoughts...thanks for listening!
it was a calling that said if joy then pain.............................pooh

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subject:      various ig topics

i've been meaning to post about various things all week and just haven't
had time. so here is everything all in one post. woo :)

summary: airplane/watershed/folkisgruven shirts/ferron/amy doing b&f in latul

1) airplane would be a million times better if they had axed the backing
vocals. they just ruin the song for me, which is unfortunate because it
has clever lyrics and a cute song-along melody. i am terrified of
airplanes and totally relate to the lyrics. the backing vocals don't grate
on my nerves that much anymore (but i remember cringing the first several
times i heard the song).

2) watershed! i waited 2 1/2 months for this puppy to arrive and it
finally did yesterday. i know many people have already said this, but
order it if you have the $15 or so to spend. it is *very* much worth it.
the galileo video cracks me up and i love the short interview segment over
the end credits (it's funny). the least complicated video was also very
cool.  heck the whole thing is cool and funny, i just wish it were longer.
(who doesnt wish that!)

3) folkisgruven shirts. i bought a 'folkisgruven' shirt thru someone on
the list a couple months ago. i don't know who he is or if he has any more
shirts but maybe he is reading this and will say something. the front says
"folkisgruven" and the back has an amy ray quote "i have no need for anger
with intimate strangers." one sleeve says a+e=ig and the other sleeve has
the ig listserv address on it. it's in my dirty clothes bag right now so i
think that is all correct. all printing is done with blue (indigo) ink.
the shirts themselves are light cream colored. anyway i am going to wear
mine at the 5/2 concert so look for either 'moo' shirts or the listserv
'folkisgruven' shirts. i bet others have this shirt as well since it was
made for the listserv.

4) ferron's "phanton center" is beautiful. i bought it on the
recommendation of several list members and they were absolutely right. it
was only $8 used at a local cd store but it would have been worth the
full-price (it's that good). in case you didn't know: amy, emily, sara
lee, and jerry marotta sing/play on the first song "stand up." tori amos
does backing vocals on other songs. i completely recommend this cd. she
was in the "folk" section of the cd store i shop at so check there first.

5) amy singing blood and fire in latul brings tears to my eyes every time
i see it. what passion! *shiver*

well that's all, i've posted my quota for the week. :)

kristina in bellingham

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, teresa c. esguerra wrote:

a couple of things i probably didn't quite clear up...

those results that i posted yesterday were only *part* of a very long
set of results, produced as the result of a very long survey (i think
anybody who's filled out the survey will agree with that *grin*).

if you haven't filled out the survey yet and you want to, the survey can
be found at http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/igsurvey.html.  if
you don't have www access, let me know and i'll send you the email version.
the full results listing can be found at
http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/results.html.

at this point in time i will be carrying on this survey indefinitely,
although i am toying with the idea of cutting it off after maybe 500
votes and putting up another survey (with different, more stupid questions :).

basically what i've done is taken tallies of peoples' results.  i'll take
an example - "ghost" came first on the "favourite song" question, with 111
votes.  this means that 111 people out of 350 put "ghost" somewhere in their
answer for that question.

which means...
>         4.  why isn't "reunion" on piquet's top 10 song list????

... because it wasn't voted in.  "reunion" came in about 23rd on the list.

actually, the question which most intrigued me was why, although people
divided their loyalties pretty evenly between amy and emily, there was
only 1 amy song in the top 10 list, in equal 9th place.  why why why?
any theories anyone? :)

as for the least favourite song thing, well - everyone has different
tastes.  not everyone is going to like exactly the same thing - i mean,
what would be the point of holding a survey otherwise? :)

i'll post more, on the results of the nigc half of the survey, later.

take care everyone,
sherlyn
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         to dance out of the lines and stray from the light.
         but i fear that to fall in love with you is to fall
            from a great and gruesome height..."
                - dar williams, "iowa"
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subject:      in defense of nis/least fave songs!

hi folks,

ok, i've been watching and now i feel compelled to put my $0.02 in!  i find it odd that
not that many people cite nis as one of their favorite albums.  it is probably my
favorite ig album, that and rop.  i love them all, but some strike me more than others.
and of course, the same goes for songs.  all of them are great in their own unique
way, but some appeal to me or strike a musical/emotional chord with me more than others.
hmd and sits are my absolute faves from nis.  han doesn't seem pc to me at all.  it's
basically a "get up off your lazy ass and make a difference in this world" song and like
someone else said, that's what ig is all about.  actually, when i first heard that song,
it reminded me of some of mary chapin carpenter's work.  then i read in the liner
notes that she sang backup.  i think her guitarist/producer john jennings played on
a couple songs, so maybe they had some influence on the sound.  i read in an interview
a while back where emily said that the sound of their albums depends a lot on who all plays
on them.  anyway, i just think nis is overlooked a lot and i think it's a powerful                                          .
album full of meaning.  the only song i can think of that i almost always skip is
"history of us" from ig.  like i said, just my $0.02...gotta defend/promote nis!

peace,

joan :)

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hey all,

just wanted to say that i totally agree that celebrity's especially amy
and em should have their space. we know how they're already a little shaky
with their stardom, so we should respect their space.

also wanted to say that i think 1-2-3 is a rockin' song. chris mcguire
from mary fortune and express and ellen james society fame sings a verse.
how could you all not like it...


"...it's awful quiet here since love fell asleep..."
                                                        sharon

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subject:      folkisgruven shirts

<sigh> all this talk of nojf is making me jealous! i am resigned to the
fact that i will not, under any circumstances, be able to go, but i will
survive.. although i'd love to see ig again i am sure that when they
resume touring they will stop in ann arbor (<-- where i am slaving away
in school). anyway.. to the point.. i must not have been on the list when
"folkisgruven" shirts were made available -- anyone have any thoughts on
whether or not i could get one somehow? input appreciated -- e-mail me
privately. thanks! :)

sarah

(i am hating this thing called "spring break" -- we have a *ton* of snow!)

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subject:      ig survey results - part 2 - nigc

here is the second part of the survey results, folks...

-sherlyn

===
a very brief summary of some of the results from the "nigc" section of the
survey:

(all numbers are votes out of a possible 350.  my comments in brackets
after the listings.  full survey results are available at
http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/results.html.)

* age groups:                   1. 18-21 - 129
                                2. 22-25 - 68
                                3. under 18 - 49
[thank you to the person who pointed out to me that having the age groups
"under 18" and "19-21" left no choice applicable to 18-year-olds - as
you can see, it's been amended. :) ]

* sex / sexual orientation:     female - 245; male - 96
                                straight women - 128; straight men - 81;
                                bisexual women - 39; bisexual men - 5;
                                gay women - 64; gay men - 8.
[i guess this means that either the igs are a lot less of a "gay" band that
i'd thought, or that straight people like filling out surveys more.
*snicker* :) ]

* location:                     1. usa - 303
                                2. canada - 16
                                3. uk - 7

* other favourite artists:      1. melissa etheridge - 125
                                2. tori amos - 79
                                3. sarah mclachlan - 75
                                4. rem - 73
                                5. 10000 maniacs - 42
                                6. ani di franco - 40
                                7. k.d. lang - 38
                                8. mary chapin carpenter - 38
                                9. kristen hall - 35
                                10. natalie merchant - 34
[as you can see, melissa etheridge was first by a mile... surprise
surprise. :) ]

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subject:      siren song

hi folks,

i've just picked up this compilation album at tower in austin:

title: siren song "a celebration of women in music"
label: epic
artists: celine dion, des'ree, cyndi lauper, nicky holland, beverley craven,
sade, basia, indigo girls (closer to fine), gloria esterfan, and jennifer rush.
cat no: ek 66215
year: 1996

i saw it a few weeks ago but didn't want to pay $16 + tax for it... it's in the
sale now though.

being english i had not heard of "amy's" ice cream which seems to be quite
popular here in austin. i was walking through the student union building the
other day at ut when i saw the sign.... two black and white cows with the
caption "moo!!!"... laugh, i nearly cried. i can't wait to meet up with you all
at new orleans. does anyone who is going to the jazz festival as well as the
concert want to meet up with me in new orleans?

take care
sharon... the brit abroad :)

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i love  nis!! it's always hard for me to pick favorites of anything
indigo, so i won't say it's my *favorite*, but i sure do like it. very
often i find myself thinking "hmmm....let's see....what ig tape am i in the
mood for right now....nomads!...yeah, it's a nomads kind of night...."
(and then i proceed to dig around in my car for the tape; if i can't find
it right away, i have to all but stop the car and find it 'cause nothing
else will do when i'm in a "nomads" kind of mood...)

not only do i love all the songs, i also like the order the songs are
in....that may sound weird, but i just like how it starts with watershed
and then you've got hmdowns, the softer, sweeter 10,000wars, then it
starts in with the really strong (wonderful!) opening guitar chords of
ptntf....they really chose this "song order" (set list?) well, imho.

i too know a few ig fans who don't care much for nis, but like their
other stuff. that's cool....everyone's tastes are different!  :-)

a staunch nis fan,

christine


"...well i better learn how to swim
        'cause the crossing is chilly and wide...."
                                -- e.s.

"...well i better learn how to starve the emptiness
        and feed the hunger...."
                                -- e.s.

on tue, 5 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
> because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
> while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
> ben

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please explain moo to me......thanks!! :o)

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subject:      *who* hates airplane?!?!

i'm sorry but this song is just the gosh darn cutest thing i have ever heard.
i listen to it only when i'm in the mood cuz it seems like the only appropriate
time.  i'm also a roches fan which might explain some of this...
anyways, here's my point.  this winter i flew down to athens to visit a real
good bud of mine and the enitre way there and back i tried to que the "up on
an airplane" part (you know when the roche sisters kick in with that cool take
off thing) right as i was taking off.  only managed to do it on the last take
off - a perfect ending to a most wonderful trip i must say! :)
yeah so there.  and i'm ready to defend my views! :p

avital

avital@lucy.cs.wisc.edu

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, tina pelkey <poohgrl816@aol.com> wrote:
>please explain moo to me......thanks!! :o)

:) i think i brought this one back up out of nowhere, so i might as well
explain! :)
a couple of months ago, when i first started on the list, the topic was brought
up on who says "moo" at the beginning of "galileo" on 1200 curfews.
several of us correctly thought it was emily (wait, wait, wait!! i'm kidding!!!
:) sheesh!) and some others believed it was amy. um, it sounds really
ridiculous, right? it went on for a couple of weeks. it was followed by another
debate on who says "who loves us? nobody!" before "thin line" (amy!!!!!!!)
:) and that's the "moo" story. :)

the end.

i hope. ;)
rick
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   >i think that's a good idea..... whether we wear "folkisgruven" or
   >"moo" -whatever.....
how 'bout (according to your preference) signs that say "strawberry" or
"black beans and rice?"
rustyr

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subject:      re: ohio-born ig fan here....
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960229164736.651a-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

i'm also an ohio-born fan.  i was born in marion (nevada's too small to
have a hospital--or a fast food restaurant, or more than one gas station,
etc.).  we moved away for about 10 years, but now i'm in dayton finishing
up my degree.  i'll really miss internet and especially hearing what
y'all have to say when i lose this account in june.  *sniff*

anyhow, just thought i'd pop my head up and own up to my ohio-born status.

take care, all.

jenifer

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subject:      baf, pod

baf reminds of my lowest days and of how it took a great amount of passion
for life to move out of that realm...i was calling from 10,000 miles away and
i think someone must've heard me :)

pod is one of my favorite songs because of the line "i asked my father for a
dollar and he gave me the ten dollar raise, when i needed my mother and i
called her, she stayed with me for days..."  when i first heard this line, i
cried because it reminded me of my father (he died almost 6 years ago).  he
used to upholster car seats on weekends so we always had cars that he was
working on in the driveway...when he'd pull up the seat out of the car, he'd
call me over and let me have all the loose change underneath...he was a sweet
man with a heart of gold...after he died, my mother and i got really close
and she has been a great friend, through thick and thin...anyway, this song
always reminds me of how lucky i am to have these incredible people bring me
into the world.

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, all hail the goddess of venus *a.k.a. on earth: ailecia* wrote:

> i am new here to the list (i subscribed today) and saw that someone wrote
> about "least favorite" ig songs.
>
> i must agree with the airplane being the "worst" of the ig but i love
> "chickenman" its definitely one of my favorites... not my fav. but one of
> the top ig songs in my book... just thought i'd share...
>
hey, it's me- the one who wrote the dreaded list in the first place...  i
was just stating the ones that aren't favorites... how can anyone
_dislike_ an ig song?!?  that just doesn't happen...  but since everyone
wrote back to me, some arguing vehemently, some kindly stating their
positions and giving me insight into songs that i missed myself...
anyways, i just wanted to say that, personally, i think that airplane is a
good fun song.  it may not be as deep as some others, but it has a good
musicality and the roches voices behind a's + e's make shivers go up my
spine.  as e has a fear of motion, i think that this seemed like good
therapy for her to sort of laugh at herself in this song.  (actually,
they're both really good at laughing at themselves- that's part of what
makes their personalities come to life in their songs.)  ok... i guess
i'm done... see y'all latah...
-mandy

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

in my opinion, one of the great things about the music of ig is that their
songs are so richly textured, both musically and lyrically, that one can
revisit each album months or even years later and get to see and experience
old songs in new ways.

in my case, this happens often with amy's songs. emily's stuff is "easier"
for me to get, and so i instantly love her stuff. amy's stuff grows on me,
which i realize is okay. which brings me to the point that's relevant to this
thread (finally!) ... i like nis a lot, and one of my favorite songs on it is
"hand me downs." it was one of the rare instances when i immediately
connected with one of amy's songs. it's a combination of the lyrics - "all
with hope that emptiness brings fullness and loss of love brings wholeness
..." - and the rhythm. (so, i guess what i'm saying is that i respectfully
disagree with the inclusion of this song on the "worst" list...)

anna

i also like "hammer and a nail."  it strikes me as refreshingly genuine,
actually. sometimes i play it in the morning before going to work, and it
never fails to put a smile on my face.

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i have trouble deciding if i have a "favorite" album...but nis holds an
extra special place in my heart, especially since "watershed" is my fave
ig song.  i consider this album to be a "desert island" cd.--gwen

on tue, 5 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
> because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
> while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
> ben
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on tue, 5 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
> because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
> while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
> ben
>
yes!!  i agree with any (lady of aragon) and ben here...  there is a
certain difference between nis and the resto f the albums...  i don;t
know if i like it the best (they're all so good!)  but it's constantly in
my cd player!
-mandy

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subject:      re: ig survey results - part 2 - nigc
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              "jagged little piq" at mar 6, 96 11:11:46 am

what does it mean if you not only like all the other favorite bands , but
seen them (most of them) multiple times as well....

mike r.
(ani defranco 4/19 univ. of southern maine!! 8.00 dollars a ticket!)
*drowning in the sea of his honors thesis*


anyone have n. merchant 2/14 porland maine???? (this year) on tape???
(yes i am begging!)

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ok
now i am confused
what is the thing with amy's ice cream and moo?
i know, i'm out of the loop...please, someone humor me, mail me privately and
'splain?
thanks thanks thanks yall
-larissa
p.s. i didn;t get to say earlier, pod is way up  on my favorite songs list,
it, let it be me, hammer and a nail and bury my heart at wounded knee are
what i listen to on the way to my 5 am activist commitments...gotta get
modivated somehow!!!)

peace y'all

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how come _i_ haven't been surveyed???

a staunch supporter sincs the early years.

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subject:      re: baf
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to me baf has always been the ultimate song about pain and loss. i am not
gay, but i think that this particular song describes the heartache and loss
from a gay relationship more clearly than some of their other songs.  i don't
know, maybe it's the images or something, but as opposed to ghost, which
could definietely (sp?) describe hetero or homo, the passion in this song
just speaks to me as a female, from a female.

angie in kc

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hand me downs is probably my least favorite son, probably because it so much
like  dirge.  i do like hammer and a nail but you have to account for the
fact that i am the original organic gardener, who keeps trying to convert all
the chem lawn people

angie in kc

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chickenmaaaan!!! you have got to be joking about it being the least fav song.
i"ve only been on the list for a month, and i would say that most of us would
rank it in our top 10 or 20 (depending on if you are an a or an e).  what
gives?

angie in kc

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yeah, i agree with you cylinda. when i saw then perform cedar tree (it must
have been during the nis tour) it was the next to last song before their
encore. the backdrop was very simple, just the images from the album, but
somehow they used lights and shadows it give the effect of a song cascading
through the hall ( kinda like raindrops throgh the trees into a silent
waterfall, if you can follow my imagery). it was beautiful!

angie in kc

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i'm not sure why so many people dislike 123 just as much as i'm not sure
what exactly amy is talking about; but i really really like that
song...in fact i love every song from nis (except hammers and nails
maybe...), and it was after this album (my second ig album) that i
started to connect to amy...

222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222

when i hear "pick up the sticks and go home" i would think about some of
the movies i've seen...like "fried green tomatoes" or "places in the
heart" in which people wear stupid white sheets beating people of
different color from they are; or "torch song trilogy" where people got
beaten up because they love people of the same sex. and then there are
threats from mainland china that they're going to attact us with missiles...

3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

"all the details of this war is just self-infatuation..."

ps. for some reason hammers and nails never really does anything to
me...(now don't kill me for this!...)and to be completely honest...i hate
"land of cannan" in their self-titled album...i like the version in sf
ok, but in "indigo girls" they sound like hawaiian beach music...i like
hawaiian beach musci, but with the lyrics like "i'm lonely tonight/i'm
missing you now..." it sounds really dumb...

111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

gavin

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date:         tue, 5 mar 1996 20:46:57 -0800
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subject:      re: (nigc) st. patrick's day concert

julie goldman (the one who didn't write any famous songs yet) wrote:

>   just so you know, there's a concert on sunday, march 17 at 5 pm in the
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
was this on purpose?  :-)

>decatur high school stadium, featuring kristen hall, the new barleycorn,
                                       (^^^^^^^^^^^^)

:dwayne

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well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
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me too!! me too!!!

angie in kc

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

renee commented:
>the only part i do love from that song is "the basement lies within us..."
>whoever that is (i totally forget, someone from the ejs?) that sings it
>kicks ass!  :)

that would be chris mcguire, and yes she does!  she and cooper serenaded me
all the way to the gym tonight (ok, so i wouldn't necessarily call it
serenading, but they sang to me all the same).  i love ejs, especially the
first cd, _reluctantly we_.  even today it blows most of 'alternative' music
to smithereens.  but that's just mho.

:dwayne

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i admit it!  i planted that quote there intentionally!

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on tue, 5 mar 1996, dwayne d. jarrell wrote:

> julie goldman (the one who didn't write any famous songs yet) wrote:
>
> >   just so you know, there's a concert on sunday, march 17 at 5 pm in the
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> was this on purpose?  :-)
>
> >decatur high school stadium, featuring kristen hall, the new barleycorn,
>                                        (^^^^^^^^^^^^)
>
> :dwayne
>
> djarrell@ix.netcom.com
> "wasn't it you who said love was useless?
>  hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
>  well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
>  - peter stuart (dog's eye view)
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>
>except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are >amazing! i guess its' just
>because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that >this is their worst cd
>while i think its' their best! anyone else think >so?
>ben
>

i've gotta give at least a half a cent on this one...i love nis...in fact its
one of my favorite ig cd's....i know, hard to believe.  but that could have a
lot to do with southland in the springtime being one of my favorite songs
(because when god made me born a yankee, he was teasin') but i'll save my
comments on that song for later...

peace y'all,
nicole

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...

well.....
i clearly need to throw my hard hat into this one...
everybody knows that the "worst" ig song is
'keeper of my heart".
some of my so-called friends berate es for
"history of us", which they claim is "whiney"
they seem to think that es has a tendency to
"whine" in some of her songs. i however,
disagree, any song that refers to painters is o.k.
in my book (still its canvas & oil...ect.).
n.i.s. is my personal favorite, but  feels "colder"
than their others (i'm not sure what that means).
ta ta for now,
claire
>i think i'll take a nap, just like freewheel,freewheel !<
(team dresch)

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right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i loooooooove this idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but what about those of us who don't really have a preference????
i guess since my name is emily i could choose strawberry...*i actually
inherited that nick 2 1/2 years ago*  but then amy is soooo cool!!!
*grrrr*..well, i'm not going to new orleans...so i don't have to worry
about it for a while right????
*peace*smile* em

you wrote:
>
>   >i think that's a good idea..... whether we wear "folkisgruven" or
>   >"moo" -whatever.....
>how 'bout (according to your preference) signs that say "strawberry"
or
>"black beans and rice?"
>rustyr
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subject:      re: sorry, but i might have to kill you for this:)*just kidding!!*
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hi claire and everyone else, what!!! i didn't know "keeper of my heart" is
the worse ig
song...i didn't know everybody knows that too...in fact it's one of my
favorite amy song! it's the song i listened to over and over again when i
broke up with my ex-boyfriend, trying to acknowlege both my love and
anger and to open my arms again. it's very therapuetic for me. i realised
how my insecurity could have made me hold on something too tightly, and
how my untrustingness could prevent me from touching the truth. gawd i
was so angry when i learned he found someone new after less than a week,
and it seems everything we used to share, the good things and the bad
things, i'd painted it with anger's brush. i was so bitter and hurt. but
he was probably just as much as in pain as i was. i just hope when two
people go seperate ways we could all "go unharmed"...

maybe it was me being a non native english speaker i totally
misinterpreted some of the songs; how come i always like songs people don't?

gavin

on wed, 6 mar 1996, claire johnson wrote:

> everybody knows that the "worst" ig song is
> 'keeper of my heart".

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subject:      re : siren song

ah-hah !   so the undercover moo cow is uncloaked.....always wondered
where moo came from !

happily a bit less confused
amit

the end ???
-------------------

being english i had not heard of "amy's" ice cream which seems to be quite
popular here in austin. i was walking through the student union building the
other day at ut when i saw the sign.... two black and white cows with the
caption "moo!!!"... laugh, i nearly cried. i can't wait to meet up with you all
at new orleans. does anyone who is going to the jazz festival as well as the
concert want to meet up with me in new orleans?

take care
sharon... the brit abroad :)

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hey y'all,

        anyone going to the df concert at bucknell u in pa on friday?
i'm goin' and i'd love to meet up with anyone going from the list.
private e-mail me and let me know..:)

                                 peace and bless y'all,
                                 shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      re: baf

might i just say that this song is my favorite amy ray song...i love
it bad...it's soooo beautiful.  i had an awesome experience this past
summer...i was camping with my friend bob and we were sitting around
the campfire...(might i just say that the woods is the ultimate place
to listen to ig) i was staring into the fire and baf came on...every
time i hear that song it touches my soul, but for some reason, it
really hit me hard that night... anyway, just wanted to share..

oh, and regarding the least favorite ig song thread...i love _every_
ig song (the only band that has ever affected me in that way), so i
could never pick a least favorite...i think airplane is very funny..i
understand where e's coming from..and hmd is my 4th favorite song of
all time...i love it. thanks for listening.:)

                          peace and bless y'all,
                          shannon shevock (yamaha)

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subject:      re: n*i*s is awsome!

i also love nis.  i never thought it was "un-indigo".  i think if anything
is "un-indigo" it is so (mostly because of tmf).  but i truely love nis.
nis actually gave me a gift - of sorts.  when i got the cd, i taped it
right away.  my taped ended at "nashville".  i never knew 'cedar tree' and
'let it be me' existed.  one day i was cleanning the house and had nis
playing, and i thought 'geez, what song is that?'  what a nice surprise.  i
never knew those existed.  the problem with 90 minute cassettes i guess.

anyway, just wanted to say my piece about nis - - great album!

- jen hall
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i love  nis!! it's always hard for me to pick favorites of anything
indigo, so i won't say it's my *favorite*, but i sure do like it. very
often i find myself thinking "hmmm....let's see....what ig tape am i in the
mood for right now....nomads!...yeah, it's a nomads kind of night...."
(and then i proceed to dig around in my car for the tape; if i can't find
it right away, i have to all but stop the car and find it 'cause nothing
else will do when i'm in a "nomads" kind of mood...)

not only do i love all the songs, i also like the order the songs are
in....that may sound weird, but i just like how it starts with watershed
and then you've got hmdowns, the softer, sweeter 10,000wars, then it
starts in with the really strong (wonderful!) opening guitar chords of
ptntf....they really chose this "song order" (set list?) well, imho.

i too know a few ig fans who don't care much for nis, but like their
other stuff. that's cool....everyone's tastes are different!  :-)

a staunch nis fan,

christine


"...well i better learn how to swim
        'cause the crossing is chilly and wide...."
                                -- e.s.

"...well i better learn how to starve the emptiness
        and feed the hunger...."
                                -- e.s.

on tue, 5 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
> because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
> while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
> ben

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does anyone else remember a version of "iko iko" (pardon my spelling)
that ig did for the movie cocktail? it isn't on the cocktail soundtrack
so i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get hold of a copy. also,
which album is uncle john's band on?

thanks :)

jen

first you kiss me like a lover, then you sting me like a viper.

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subject:      bad news and a request.

hello one and all...

  i am writing this brief message to ask for a bit of help.  you see my
duplex burned down the other day and most of my stuff was destroyed. all
of my ig bootlegs are gone now...not that i had many, but the ones i did
have were very important to me. i was wondering if anyone out there would
help me replace these lost treasures. i would be more than happy to send
a sase with a tape. i hope that someone or many someones could possibly
assist me. and maybe some good will come out of this...i'll get more
bootlegs than i had originally ;}  anyone who would be so kind as to help
me, please mail me privately...no need to have the list keep getting
bombarded with sympathy letters  or updates on who is helping me out...

thanx to all in advance....

jim driskell

           "i am the king of all i see..my kingdom for a voice...."
                                                             michael stipe

           "the heart and the mind on a parallel course, never
                the 2 shall meet"            emily sailers

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          hi pooh- nice name..i am a huge pooh fan.

          on, the the baf content.  in my courtly love seminar we were
          assigned (one of the many) to find a song or poem that
          reflects the courtly love aspects.  well, you'll never guess
          which song i chose.  baf reflects how painful it really is
          to be in love.  courtly love is a  painful ,
          never-fully-acknowledged love....as is the love that ar
          describes here.  anyway, class started and everyone read
          their poems(they picked really cool old stuff...some of my
          favorites).  i handed out the lyrics and played the song.
          let's just say that i may have converted 6 grad. students
          here in my little metropolis.  :}

          later,
          towanda

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subject:      bumper stickers

i know some of the folks on this list have made up t-shirts and bumper
stickers for fellow list-ers.  how much does it cost to make about 200
bumper stickers?  i'm asking because i'd like to make some with the list
address on it.  i've found many texans on the list and newsgroups, and it
would be great to id each other on these - otherwise treacherous -
highways.

or, have you guys done this already?

- jen hall

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from:         jennifer hall
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subject:      "tried to be true" - day

first off...let me be the first to say that i'm the worst "indigo girl"
poem translator.  i did really bad in high school english where we had to
decipher  poems....and growing older hasn't made me wiser in that category
yet.

anyway, i was just reading the lyrics to ttbt, and thought that it was
about amy having a lover that was a singer that had finally 'made it', and
the fame took the place of their relationship.
        "here is the fame they promised to give you
        taking the place of my hand now"

and amy is saying 'well now that you're a big superstar, why has our
relationship failed - what is different in our relationship - what
separates me from you'.

then it seems that the popularity failed:

        "tell me where is the fame
        where is the fortune
        where is the world that denies you
        who is to blame
        when my heart finally forfeits
        to a road that will only misguide you"

i never really looked at these lyrics before.  i would just listen to the
upbeat music, but the lyrics are not upbeat.

i would first think that i'm way off line with the "lover that was a
singer" thing, but coming from amy, cooper is in the business (not saying
that this song is about cooper - just an example).  so i wouldn't think i'm
too off base thinking that amy had another involvement with someone who had
desires to enter into the business.

whadda think??

- jen hall

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 10:07:05 -0800
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subject:      ttbt, nis, etc...long

good day all,

decloaking here for a few moments. work has been keeping me way too
busy. i am going on digest for the rest of the month as i will only be
home for a week or so until after the first week of april, so i am going
to get most my comments in now. =3d)=20

i want a folkisgruven t-shirt too!!!

i think ttbt is a great song..although like jennifer i am not great at
the deep poetic interpretation thang. i think its about being true to
yourself and the people you love and choices and consequences. =20

jumping ahead,  loves recovery was the first song when i first heard ig
that stuck with me. so much of the song describes the first few years of
my life after i came out... friends breaking up, searching for the
perfect love, wondering down paths, not knowing which direction to take.
i am all to familiar with the silent screaming in a dream...=20

i love center stage, i think its a great song, kinda the theme as ttbt
with the choices, actions and the long arm of karma.=20

still with me.. cool, almost done. nis is one my 3 favorite cd's. i love
the images and emotions it conveys. hnn is a great getoffyourass,
getbusy, sing along song. world falls is one of my top 5 favorite songs.
at a time when i was changing, growing and having a lot of things
happening, i would put sf, ig and nis on, lay down and just listen,
contemplate and meditate. it was very therapeutic and helped put shape
and direction in my life. and helped inspire my first tattoo!!=20

thanks for hangin in this far... peace

lisa=20

my life is more than a vision
the sweetest part is acting=20
after making a decision
started seeing the whole=20
as a sum of its parts... es
=00

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 13:16:11 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: baf

thanks to dan for the personal story, and for expressing my own thoughts on
baf so well. the emotion in baf is just so amazing that i can't even put it
into words. all i can say is, "mrph, blah, umph, oooh, umm, *sigh*"
it's the "suicidal tendancies" song, and i still cry _every_single_time_.

>i am always so amazed that amy can sing such a deeply personal,
>emotionally raw and exposed song, and then put herself out there for
>everyone to see.. what amazing courage that takes.

funny you should mention this, cuz she doesn't sing it anymore.

thoughts on cedar tree:
someone doesn't like it??!!?? wow, that surprises me. i've always thought is
was one of her most gorgeous songs. and it's _totally_ unique. different
style, different tuning, different musical arrangement. it's the closest thing
ig has to a strictly instrumental song. fascinating...

thoughts on why there aren't more amy songs in the top ten on the survey:
umm....i dunno.
i know _i_ haven't filled out this version of the survey yet, and my favorite
song is usually an amy song. (depends on the day). but i don't think my one
teensy little vote will change anything. so umm...i dunno.
oh, here's a thought that's bound to get me into trouble: people are equally
divided between amy fans and emily fans, but maybe emily fans like emily's
_music_ whereas amy fans just like _amy_. *ducking and running*

and while i'm here, i've been meaning to post for a while about the small
amount of amusement i get from the picture on my computer screen. you see, i
have it set up so that when i logon to my account, the picture from the back
of nis comes up on my screen. so one day i'm in the computer lab typing away
at something, and my work is covering over everything except amy's arm
sticking out to the side. one of my profs comes up behind me and asks, "who's
the hunk?" i almost choked, and laughed out loud and relplied, "um, that's no
'hunk' as you would say. that's amy ray." and i moved my work aside so he
could see the full picture. i think he was embarassed. he thought because of
the tattoo that it had to be a man. then, a few days later, i'm working there,
and this time amy's face is showing. a woman working beside me looks over and
says, "that's a great picture, who is that? is that you?" this time i about
died. (someone thought amy was me???!!!) those of you who have seen me should
be falling out of your chairs laughing about now. i _do_ have brown hair, but
that's about as far as the similarity goes :) all in all, i've gotten about 5
comments from that picture on my computer. it must be a fascinating pic even
to people who aren't crazed ig fans.

i've bored you enough for now,
folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 17:30:27 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      life, loves recovery, cedar tree & newport!!!

well i'm back at university for the afternoon, getting supplies and
more equipment...it has certainly been wierd not having a computer
and 'the list' sitting in front of me all day, always there for to
offer words of wisdom!  you know i've lasted 22 years without the
list and then after finding it, i can't be away for 4 days without
feeling the toll.  i've been away with a 'colleague' who i don't
really get along with very well and my patience has been truly
tested...she's a devout catholic so i figure god put her on the
planet so test us...all i can say is thank god for personal stereos
and ig...i've gotten really close...in my head...to rop over the last
few nights...to the point that whenever i hear any of their songs now
i become *so* overwhelmed...i think i would probably start crying if
i was on my own...its like...the music has entered my bloodstream.

so anyway, i'm off again in a bit back to work and won't be back
until sunday, then i'm off to france on tuesday...anyone out there
from paris or rennes by the way?

while i'm here, think i'll say a few words about loves recovery...day
early i know!  i *love* this song...it's almost like an ideal for
me...i would like to be in the situation...ie in my mind and
soul...to feel the totalness of this song...at the moment i only get
as far as "missed ten million miles i should have seen" bit.  i'd like
to be totally content with the way my life has worked out and not
keep wishing for things to be different...basically things are tough
in *love* (sorry to sound so corny) and the 'world' is a lot tougher
on some than others, but if things work through and love has survived
then rejoice not think about how the grass is greener on the other
side...this is probably a wierd tangent from loves recovery, but this
is what it makes me think of.

gosh, i've got a million things to say...hope y'all don't mind too
much.  i saw a few postings about least liked ig songs and cedar
tree...well i won't comment on the not-so-favorite-songs thread, but
i was wondering if anyone knew more about the instrumental parts of
cedar tree...sounds very irish/celtic to me and i was curious of the
origin.

finally...yes i promise...found out today that flights to boston in
august are about stlg400 (about $600)...i need some big-time honest
opinions...who figures they'd pay that just to get to an ig
concert...ie newport...not including transport, accommodation,
tickets, ig paraphernalia etc.  i need advice!!!

ok, i'm done...talk to y'all soon

love helene

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 13:36:23 -0500
reply-to:     julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      ttbt

does anyone understand the lines:
  "i bought my love a hunger more precious than a stone
   all these fatal flowers,   did i misguide you?"

also, i know this is late, but i was wondering, does anyone really
understand kid fears?  i mean, maybe it is really simplistic and we
shouldn't overanalyze it, but i've never really gotten the skipping
stones and the staircase and the pearls...and really the whole song...  we
didn't discuss
it very thoroughly on kid fears day, so i was just wondering if anyone
would like to elaborate...  btw, i did find the fgt reference
interesting, tho; i'd never thought of that...  does anyone know exactly
what inspired that song?

just curious,
  julie

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 12:43:26 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: don't kill me for this...
x-to:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
in-reply-to:  <960306023733_439338356@mail04.mail.aol.com>

are you on crack? keeper of my hearts is on my ig top ten. i'm losing
faith here in our little list. although i still love igs' later albums
nothing can touch the sheer unpreteniuosness of nis. it was made when
they weren't famous enough to be pretenious but just famous enough to
know they could make a difference. you can hear it in the music.
whoo....i'll get off my soap box now,
ben

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 14:44:40 est
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      best/worst songs, personal taste, etc.

hi folks,

ok, first off, there is no "worst" ig song or album.  "worst" (or "best" for
that matter) is a very subjective term.  each one of us comes from
different backgrounds, life experiences, musical tastes and we interpret music
differently.  i happen to really like "keeper of my heart."  i don't know
that i particularly relate to the lyrics, but it is a very tender song
(for amy)  and the music is very powerful.  there are songs (very few) that i'm
not totally crazy about, but i wouldn't dare tell someone who loves ig
that those are their worst songs.  those particular songs just don't
happen to appeal or speak to me, that's all.  they might mean a great deal
to someone else or even change their life.  i don't know if anyone has ever
noticed this, but it seems like a lot of people who discovered ig with
s.o. and/or s.o. is their fave ig album, don't like their other stuff as
much and the ones who love their other stuff oftentimes don't like s.o.
as much.  i guess i fall into the latter category.  s.o. is great (imo)
and i really appreciate that they try to grow as musicians, but i think
s.o. is a little overdone and a little different than their other stuff.
but there are people out there who absolutely love it for that very reason.
i just wondered if anyone else had come to that conclusion.  ok, i'll
get off my soapbox now...(g)

peace and moo,

joan :)

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 15:40:31 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      re: best/worst songs, personal taste, etc.
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in a message dated 96-03-06 14:49:54 est, you write:

>i happen to really like "keeper of my heart."  i don't know
>that i particularly relate to the lyrics, but it is a very tender song
>(for amy)  and the music is very powerful.  there are songs (very few) that
>i'm
>not totally crazy about, but i wouldn't dare tell someone who loves ig
>that those are their worst songs.

i was just trying to add a little dry humor (obviously very...)
to the lively discussion that has been raging
about "best", "worst"& polls & stuff.
i meant it with a smile, sorry if i offended.
peace man !
claire

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 16:18:28 est
reply-to:     jess <x9n9@music.stlawu.edu>
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subject:      s.o. newbies

good day to all ig fans:
     in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect that most of the
list members fell in love with the ig during their release of swamp
ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if anyone here
"met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their self-titled, or rop.
to me, those albums were my first taste of their powerful mesaages, and
will continue to be my most memorable albums.  just a quick question,
i'd like to see some response, privately if you'd like.

                                   jess

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"will ya keep on buliding higher until there's more room up there?"
                                                      cat stevens
"sometimes the beauty of life
hits like lightning washing everything
clear
and these dimmer of doubt flicker
fade out and dissapear"
                 shawn colvin
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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 13:30:22 -0800
reply-to:     scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
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from:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      kid fears (so i'm a little late!)
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on wed, 6 mar 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:
> also, i know this is late, but i was wondering, does anyone really
> understand kid fears...  i've never really gotten the skipping
> stones and the staircase and the pearls...and really the whole song...  we
> didn't discuss  it very thoroughly on kid fears day...

hey, yeah, you're right.  i used to make me think about how growing up
takes its toll as a simpler view of life is replaced by more complex fears
and problems... what would you give to have it be simple again?  to
replace the rent with the stars, the need with love, etc...

but now, i'm starting to wonder if there isn't a lot in this song having
to do with sexuality and judgement... "pain from pearls" as hurt from
love, "secret staircase... you had a hiding place... they all know now
you're inside" sounds like coming out to me... and what about "skipping
stones... any sin will do?"  makes me think of judgemental people... put
the three together, sounds to me like you're getting attacked for loving
who you love... and what would you give to replace this complex, painful
problem with the simple problems that seemed such a big deal when you were
a kid?

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 21:40:54 gmt
reply-to:     georg petersen <georg.petersen@kiel.netsurf.de>
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from:         georg petersen <georg.petersen@kiel.netsurf.de>
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subject:      re: super bitmap recorded cd
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on mon, 4 mar 1996 02:17:26 -0600 (cst), casey connor wrote:

>could this be the same thing as the audiophile 24 carat gold edition of
>that album which was recently released? i haven't really heard much about
>it... tell the list how it sounds, whatever you get...

yes, it's a gold disc, looks pretty, sounds even better :-)

you need a _good_ stereo, but then the difference is obvious. all
softer parts, second voices, additional instruments etc. are a bit
clearer.

could some guitar expert  comment on the guitar sound, to me it was
fine before.

besides, you can unfold the booklet into a 14x14 cover poster.

> i think someone
> does have it who posted once... can't recall who... it was so expensive
> in the stores!

over here (germany) it was only $10 more than a normal cd.

best wishes,   georg


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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 13:44:04 -0800
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my first taste of ig was seeing the closer to fine video when it first
came out.  i think that was around 1988.  it was when the self-titled
album first came out.  i didn't buy the album until a friend made me a
tape that year with a lot of songs on it, three of which were from ig
(l's r, ttbt, hofu).  i think i have actually been a strong fan since i
first saw that video....gwen

on wed, 6 mar 1996, jess wrote:

> good day to all ig fans:
>      in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect that most of the
> list members fell in love with the ig during their release of swamp
> ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if anyone here
> "met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their self-titled, or rop.
> to me, those albums were my first taste of their powerful mesaages, and
> will continue to be my most memorable albums.  just a quick question,
> i'd like to see some response, privately if you'd like.
>
>                                    jess
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "will ya keep on buliding higher until there's more room up there?"
>                                                       cat stevens
> "sometimes the beauty of life
> hits like lightning washing everything
> clear
> and these dimmer of doubt flicker
> fade out and dissapear"
>                  shawn colvin
> ************************************************************************
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subject:      when i got into the ig closet...

hey!  i just subscribed to the ig list today, so i first just want to say that
i think it's amazing and quite refreshing to see that so many other people
share the ig passion.  you guys all totally rule.  ok, now that that's cleared
up, i just wanted to offer some personal insight into the topic of when/why
people began getting hooked on ig phonics.  hehee...ok, maybe that was
retarded, but it had to be said.  anyway, i totally agree with joan (i think
that's who it was??) in that i am a strong supporter of artists earlier
works...before they were cast into the limelight.  whether it's ig or
10,000 maniacs or even billy joel, for some reason the earlier songs which
were perhaps written with less pretentious qualities (as someone else stated)
just spoke to me significantly more.  in any case, as much as i love all
ig cuts, yes, i definitely am more attached to the earlier ones, especially
sf, ig, and nis.  only a mere 8th grader upon being introduced to ig, i went
to their live shows at that age, and immediately fell in love with the
harmony that e and a create.  actually, i'm not sure if i like that statement,
for i'm not sure that they actually create harmony, as much as it is simply
innate in both of them.  it surges forward from them impeccably.  i could
find a little piece of each and every song of theirs which seemed to relate
to me in one way, shape, or form.  they were as comforting to me as the
southland is in the springtime.  sometimes, and this may sound totally selfish
or something, but i get so infuriated with my friends who all of a sudden
bought the so cd and declare themselves ig fans, yet when i began listening
to them as a 13 year old, they constantly made fun of me for listening
to such "depressing" music.  that's actually what they called it!!!  grrr....
anyway, now they totally like them and i'm just like, what's wrong with this
picture.  now that ig (or any other band that has surfaced into the pop-
airways) is out of their closet, everyone's willing to follow.  who knows...
am i the only one this irritates????   just curious......
anyway, hope i offered some insight.  well, at least a little bit?  any at all??
i really need to remember to put paragraphs into my writing...sorry....

lesley

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 14:00:06 -0800
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subject:      the ears of a child...

listening to n i s the other night in the car, was driving along with my
son. he's an avid fan also (he's 5) and southland in the springtime was
on. he commented afterward that it was an emily song, and i asked him how
he knew (he's darn bright but we've barely discussed the difference in
amy vs. emily music) and he said: "amy's voice is darker"...

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 14:08:32 -0800
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subject:      "the list"... nigc

hey everyone. i've been enjoying reading the comments on here for a couple
of weeks now. i was just wondering... i notice people mentioning being on
here for quite some time. i'm new to this whole computer/ e-mail/ mailing
list thing... so i'm curious... how long has this list been in existance?
(glad i found it, too...much enjoyment being had, thanks to all of you ) can
anyone tell me? thanks.
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reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      i love my mommy...

        would you believe it folks.  yes i love my mommy.

        she's given me the go ahead to...uh, well....go!!!!!  i'm simply
amazed.  she's kinda not too keen on the indigo girls (referring to them
and my other cds as "retard music"), but she knows how much i love them,
how big this 21 is - now my brothers are insisting that i'm spoiled.  my
bestfriend says i am, but says "so what...you're going".

        so.....i'll be in new orleans.  kim's great, bert's great, you
all rule.  but my mommy might be a notch above.

        she's a classy lady, whether these plans go through or not.

ccsbzzz,
teri

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 17:15:41 -0500
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: the ears of a child...

>listening to n i s the other night in the car, was driving along with my
>son. he's an avid fan also (he's 5) and southland in the springtime was
>on. he commented afterward that it was an emily song, and i asked him how
>he knew (he's darn bright but we've barely discussed the difference in
>amy vs. emily music) and he said: "amy's voice is darker"...

ohhhh....that gave me goosebumps! actually i was just starting to formulate
a response to the question that came up earlier today as to why more of
emily's songs were on the "favorite" list. i tend to believe that it's
because emily's are more "pop" in nature, more upbeat (for the most part)
and "easier" to relate to and understand. her songs are the ones that get
you on your feet at the concerts. they are external.

amy's, on-the-other-hand, are deeper and more complex (not lyrically per
se, emily has a much broader vocabulary). amy's songs are the ones you
listen to sitting in the corner in the dark and you get overwhelmed by a
feeling but you're not quite sure what it is. i think she challenges you
internally and for some of us, that's a difficult thing to deal with.

dianne, you have a brilliant child :)

deb

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subject:      re: i love my mommy...

prolly a good idea to love your mother...someday, you'll see her lookin back
at you  :)

also, once applied for a job and the interviewer sprung the question on me
"what was your mother like, did  (do) you like her?  and i sang the praises
of the woman...later, i found out my positive reaction to  the question was
the reason i got the job!!

later,  jude :)

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lying at a job interview is good practice for white-collar management!   :
)

                ....ohhh, i didn't say that, did i?

- jen hall
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prolly a good idea to love your mother...someday, you'll see her lookin
back
at you  :)

also, once applied for a job and the interviewer sprung the question on me
"what was your mother like, did  (do) you like her?  and i sang the praises
of the woman...later, i found out my positive reaction to  the question was
the reason i got the job!!

later,  jude :)

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from:         "lisa lewis (excell data corp)" <v-lisal@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: super bitmap recorded cd
x-to:         georg petersen <georg.petersen@kiel.netsurf.de>

>
>> i think someone
>> does have it who posted once... can't recall who... it was so =
expensive
>> in the stores!
>
>
that was me. i haven't listened to it yet, and i don't think my stereo
is good enough to bring out the differences. it was $30, which i suppose
is a bit much to spend on a cd i already have (my girlfriend thought
so). but hey, it is ig and a limited edition.  as long as i am here,
there were a couple of comments i forgot in my earlier post. sorry
y'all.=20

i got into ig in the fall 1990. saw them in oct of that same year, i was
moved in ways no muscian or person ever had.  i love all their cd's
because they are different. whenever they come out with a new cd i
listen to it over and over again until i can sing along to every song. i
like the variety there is in the different cd's, and i see so as a
natural course of development and experiementation, especially for amy
whose named neil young, bob dylan and the early punk movement as some of
her major influences.=20

new cd's, i have recently picked up catie curtis - truth from lies=20
it's like ig meets kd lang. joan armatrading's new one is very good
also. if you feel like experimenting a bit, try mary karlzen - yelling
at mary and melissa ferrick - willing to wait.=20

sorry that i won't be able to meet y'all in no. i travel a lot for my
job (apx. 2 weeks a month) and don't even know where i will be in may.
=3d(=20
please have extra fun for me.=20

peace,

lisa

>exerecise your right to free speech!!!! blue ribbon campain=20
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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 19:30:20 -0600
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>my first taste of ig was seeing the closer to fine video when it first
>came out.

like gwen, my first ig experience was ctf (not the video though), and that
was the beginning of my love of indigo -- i can actually pinpoint the hour
i heard it, so great was the impact.  actually, i have purchased their
albums in chronological order (call me anal) and have been more strongly
influenced by the old, rather than new, material.

january simpson
as a child i was an imaginary playmate...
--tom robbins, even cowgirls get the blues

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>
> >my first taste of ig was seeing the closer to fine video when it first
> >came out.
>

i'm also a ctf person, but not the video.  i remember seeing them on
the today show (i think that was it) and just falling in love with the
song.  the thing was i missed the artists and i missed the name to the
song so i couldn't locate them.

then months later i went christmas shopping and in the record store
and i came across this cd...  it somehow seemed familliar (perhaps my
subconscious wasn't completely clueless) i flipped it over and checked
out the songs..."closer to fine".... that's it!!!!

so i bought the disk for myself and listened to it all the way through
and was forever more hooked.  that was '89, things haven't changed
much...=)

                                laters,

                                   chris

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reply-to:     marci l windsheimer <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>
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subject:      re: s.o. newbies...plus comments on an ig-related artist
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i heard ctf on the radio (excellent station, kbco, boulder co) in the
summer of 1989.  that same summer (and on that same station) i also heard
melissa for the first time.  oh, those were the days...

i don't think "meeting" the girls early or late determines which album you
like best...i find it hard to choose but would probably go with rites of
passage.  i don't think they've gotten worse _or_ better; just different.
some of the new stuff leaves me flabbergasted--for example, language or
the kiss, and the little brilliant touch on "chickenman" on 1200c where
they dip and scoop "runnin' down on queen streeeeuhheeeeet,"--and i think
"going electric" was not only inevitable but also good, because it's like
having a bigger vocabulary.  at the same time, i kind of hunger for older
stuff, like the raw painful strength of baf.  but it doesn't matter--one
of the marks of a true artist is change, growth, experimentation.
otherwise you're perfecting a craft, not exploring your art.

just a few comments.  and one other thing--for those of you who haven't
bought a jane siberry disc, why the heck not?!??  the girls love her,
various fans of the girls love her, and anyone who loves language loves
her.  plus i got a letter from her so i can't stop talking about her.
listen to jane!  i'd recommend "when i was a boy" for starters.

thanks for listening,

marci  <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>
________________________________________________________________________
there is nothing you need that you don't have or can't do
                                                  -- jane siberry

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from:         clint davis <cdavis@hss.republic.k12.mo.us>
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subject:      in 2000 years or less....

note: all i ask is you reply honestly & preferably directly to me,
just a request.

    i have been sitting back with the security of my solitude for far
too long, and now i hope to have my words recieved by open hearts.

    i see music as the highest & most beautiful form of human
expression, the combination of our limited language & sounds that
convey feelings more powerful than words ever could. communcating
emotion that you could only feel deeper by stepping inside the
musician's soul, becoming a part of them. music is as close a
facsimile as we have to such a journey.

    we must cherish music. it calms our storms and stills our seas.
it lights a fire in the darkest part of our hearts and burns itself
out with fear. it can give us peace, or steal our sanity.

    the indigo girls have done all these things and more by putting
the experiences of their lives into some of the most riveting songs i
have ever felt or heard. for this i owe them my uttermost thanks and
blessings. they have kept me from stepping over the edge when
everything else in the world pushed and pushed. and brought me closer
to my eternal goal of knowing who i am.

    to amy & emily, i thank you both for the music. i owe you both
one.
    and to all the subscribers to this list who told of their own
struggles with themselves and the human race, and all those who have
stories untold, thank you as well. we all need to know we are not
alone. and sometimes be reminded.

                                           verily, verily,
                                           james c. davis

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on wed, 6 mar 1996, claire johnson wrote:

> well.....
> i clearly need to throw my hard hat into this one...
> everybody knows that the "worst" ig song is
> 'keeper of my heart".

oh, no no nonononono.  are you ever misguided.  komh is truly one of
amy's more wonderful songs.  i'm suggesting even more passion (if
possible), more love, more pain than blood and fire, not to mention
better guitar chords, more fun to play, more musically complex.  where do
people get these things?-)

> some of my so-called friends berate es for
> "history of us", which they claim is "whiney"
> they seem to think that es has a tendency to
> "whine" in some of her songs. i however,
> disagree, any song that refers to painters is o.k.
> in my book (still its canvas & oil...ect.).

being a history major, i beg, again, to differ.  hou is a fantastic
song.  time makes history of us all, history being the meaning that makes
us who we are and at the same time the largeness of the world that makes
us absolutely insignificant (leisure and toil, still it's canvas and oil,
there's just no medium for life, so we must love . . . until we are ashes
to dust).

> n.i.s. is my personal favorite, but feels "colder" > than their others
(i'm not sure what that means).

colder?  maybe more angry?  but that's why it's my favorite!

anxious,
chris ii

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on wed, 6 mar 1996, jess wrote:

> good day to all ig fans: > in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect
that most of the > list members fell in love with the ig during their
release of swamp > ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if
anyone here > "met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their
self-titled, or rop. > to me, those albums were my first taste of their
powerful mesaages, and > will continue to be my most memorable albums.
just a quick question, > i'd like to see some response, privately if you'd
like.

i met them on self titled.  here's the story.  i'm 20 and newly
discovering myself, in the record store in hot pursuit of a pat benatar
album (anyone else out there an 80s rock bitch fan?  bonnie tyler
anyone?)  so i've got my pb cd in hand and i'm looking through the
discount tapes bin and there's this ig tape in there for three bucks.  so
i think to myself, well, i'm getting a double pat cd for only 12, so what
the hell.  i like that closer to find (oops, later=fine) song.  so i buy
the thing.  i go home, i slip it in the tape player and holy cow!  very
nearly passed out!  next day bought strange fire and my fave, nis.  ig
and nis continue to be my absolute faves.  what's up with rop?  why do
people like it so much?  it's my least fave (of my top 10 list of fave
cds of course)

yours,
chris ii

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subject:      i forgot to say . . .

i forgot to say that i proudly purchased rop, so, 1200c, and watershed
the day--the very day--they were released!

chris ii
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that the
universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
        --kevin smith

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me too!!!!=20

>----------
>from:  chris talbot[smtp:chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu]
>sent:  wednesday, march 06, 1996 5:13 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       i forgot to say . . .
>
>i forgot to say that i proudly purchased rop, so, 1200c, and watershed
>the day--the very day--they were released!
>
>chris ii
><chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
>
>"i cannot believe that the
>universe could be so kind
>as to be godless."
>        --kevin smith
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subject:      disney special
in-reply-to:  <199603062251.raa14375@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at mar 6, 96 05:50:42 pm

hey people!  to those going to n'awlins, have a great time!  i was there a few
years ago and had a blast.  some day i want to go to mardi gras, but i'll have
to have a real job (and real $$) first!

anyway, does anyone need a copy of the disney show?  i taped it the last 2 timesit was on, and will trade for a few boot tapes (or anything else interesting
that you can come up with [i've been looking for an original copy of the 10,000
maniacs *in my tribe* cd that has "peace train" on it, and if anyone finds one
that they'll be willing to part with please email me!]).  one of the shows is
missing about the first minute or two (@#$% timer), and i think they both have
extraneous disney propaganda for your viewing pleasure :)  unfortunately this
offer is limited (until it's on again, and i will fire up the vcr); so email me
if you're interested.

p.s.  cedar tree is one of my favotrites; i was so thrilled to "find" "ode to
joy" at the end, and its range is perfect for me to sing along!

sue

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subject:      re: s.o. newbies

regarding which album hooked us on ig:

i had heard the self-titled album when it was at its height, and yeah, it
sounded good, but...  rop hooked me.  one song on the radio literally pulled
me off the highway in a generally unfamiliar city to one of the few places in
the city which i knew, to buy a copy.

peace, love, chocolate...
neb

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subject:      re: when i got into the ig closet...
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we must be twins separated at birth.. my first taste of ig was *also* in
the 8th grade (i'm now a freshman in college) and at the time, all of my
friends just gave me strange looks and asked "what is this?"! they, too,
are now in love with ig, but it took galileo to convert them..

sarah

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subject:      tape tree...

hi all...
i think i missed that tape tree thing...  "mtngrl" told me that i could
probably get "tuesday's children" through it....  so, anyone who wants to
tape this for me...  feel free... *wink*
l, mandy
ps- i can trade and/or send sase...

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subject:      happy birthday!!!  (march 6, 1996)
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happy birthday amit!!!  hope you're having a wonderful day wherever you are!!


(101624.416@compuserve.com)

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subject:      re[2]: super bitmap recorded cd
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          i saw this cd in a little music store in omaha, ne
          $30.  didn't get....still kickin' myself.
          towanda

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subject:      finding ig

gosh i'm starting to feel old!
i first heard ig on one of our local folk music stations-(wumb boston)they
were playing their first self-released tapes and i became a big fan from the
start
this must be '87,'88?
when they got their record deal and "ig" was released it made me feel sort of
proud
when they were opening for rem they played a small club in the area another
night-gave a mini "press conference" beforehand which one of the radio dj's
snuck me into
what a show -standing about10 feet away through the whole thing
met them backstage afterward-they were so nice! and amy was so cute when we
were commenting on emily's playing( watchtower?) she just smiled and said
"isn't she great?"
so, 'nuff said -been enjoying the list although i'm usually reading it late
at night
gynergy

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excerpts from mail: 6-mar-96 i forgot to say . . . by chris talbot@m.cc.utah.e
> i forgot to say that i proudly purchased rop, so, 1200c, and watershed
> the day--the very day--they were released!

that's real funny!  they are the exact albums/videos that i also
purchased on the day of their release!!!!

renee

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from:         christine housel <chousel@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      how i "met" ig music....
x-to:         jess <x9n9@music.stlawu.edu>
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on wed, 6 mar 1996, jess wrote:

> good day to all ig fans:
>      in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect that most of the
> list members fell in love with the ig during their release of swamp
> ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if anyone here
> "met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their self-titled, or rop.


i'm one who "met" the ig through their earlier stuff.....i was at an
informal dinner party at a friend's house, a guy i was just getting to
know and some mutual friends. he was playing cds, and this beautiful
music was playing in the background....i'd heard it before at his house,
but never thought much about it. so at this party, as rop was
playing, i found myself thinking, "wow!"   i was only hearing bits and
pieces of it as background music, as we were all there chatting up a storm,
but i found myself distracted, trying to listen and figure
out what it was....it very unexpectedly captured my interest like nothing
else ever had, music-wise. so i finally asked what it was...."oh, this is
the indigo girls!" i didn't know what album it was, or which ones were
available, or anything--i just knew that i really liked that type of music.

then i remembered that i'd seen an ig tape around the house, so i
asked my housemate karen if i could copy it....hers was a copy of a copy
of another tape, so my copy was a 3rd-generation tape of the self-titled
"ig" album. but it didn't matter--i really liked it. so, for the next
month or 2, i listened to that tape, mostly in my car, where i seem to
spend a lot of time. then it was sort of weird--i found myself listening to
almost nothing but that tape, never tiring of it, which was strange for me
because i could never do that with any other music. finally, i woke up
and realized that "hey, duh, there must be other ig albums out there....why
don't you go check them out?!"

so then i bought rop and was blown away. then i bought strange fire and
nis and was equally blown away. it was seriously "love at first
play"....yes, each album is different, but the ig-ness of each is there,
and i love the diversity of the songs....their repertoire is amazing.
i couldn't believe i'd found music of which i liked every single song,
and music of which i never tired of listening. i never thought that would
happen.

anyway, to wrap up this very long-winded lil' tale:

i anxiously waited and waited for swamp ophelia to come out, and walked into
the music store on the very day it was released; drooling, i bought it and
ran out to my car. before popping it in the tape deck, i told myself:
"now, listen to this honestly and objectively....if you really like it,
great!, but don't just like it 'cause it's the indigo girls". i guess i was
prepared to maybe not like it or something, maybe 'cause in one of the ig
newsletters amy had written about so (before it was released): "i think
you'll either love or hate this one" (not a verbatim quote!). so, i
thought, it could go either way. i was really hoping i'd like it (of
course!)....but if not, i thought, they've got plenty of other songs i
love so it won't matter if it's too un-ig or something.

ha! all that "worrying" was a total, neurotic waste of time.

i love swamp ophelia too!!

the end.  sorry for that dissertation! (gee, wish i could get even half that
much of my thesis written....)   :)

happy thursday,

christine

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from:         "jennifer a. moore" <indigonut@aol.com>
subject:      re: the ears of a child...

hi all!

when i first started listening to so, i immediately fell in love with emily's
voice - lc, pot, m...  amy's songs just didn't grab me right away.  but once
i started listening to more of their stuff (ig and sf)  i realized i
connected more with amy's "darker" voice  and powerful messages.

jenny

"you gotta live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some
change"     ani  difranco

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from:         "jennifer a. moore" <indigonut@aol.com>
subject:      nigc:   ani difranco

just wondering.... did anyone in the kentucky, indiana, ohio, etc. region
happen to catch the ani concert in lexington feb. 24?  i did and it was
great!   if so, i am trying to get a bootleg, and am not sure where to
look....  for anyone who is interested i have a copy of the ani show in indy
(10/10/95)  and could trade or something for some ig stuff......

jenny

"you gotta live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some
change"        ani difranco

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      catie curtis (some igc)

hi folks,

i read lisa's post about buying catie curis' cd and had to chime in!  i bought catie's
cd this very evening and it is fantastic!  i heard her song "radical" on the radio
a couple of weeks ago and knew i was hooked.  lisa commented that she sounds like ig meets
kd lang.  i agree on the ig part, but i think her vocal quality is a lot like sarah mclachlan's.
she's got that gentle way with words that em and mc carpenter have, and she's socially
conscious...and she has a beautiful voice to boot!  i join lisa in highly recommending
catie's cd.  in case anyone forgot, the name of the cd is "truth from lies."  awesome!
a footnote to all of this, catie played at the bluebird cafe here in nashville last
wedenesday night.  i had planned to go, but instead decided to be a couch potato and
watch the grammys.  what a mistake i made!!!  *kicking myself*

peace and moo.

joan :)

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from:         jon miner <jjminer@mailbag.com>
subject:      folkisgruven shirts

well, for all of you who ordered shirts, but didn't send the money,
i'm going to put the shirts up again (erase all the outstanding
orders) .. so if you want one, jump now, there's only a few left!

     peace,
         jon

"if we give gays and lesbians civil rights, then everyone will want them!"

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subject:      strawberries, etc

>>how 'bout (according to your preference) signs that say "strawberry" or
>>"black beans and rice?"
>
>      sorry, guys, but i'm in a post-o-rama kind of mood today... just
delete
>me.  i understand.  anyhow, big chuckles on this one! =)  i wish i were
>going!  but, which to choose?  it would have to be "strawberries and rice"
>for me, i think.  call me switzerland.  anyhow, if you want to have tees
>made, i'm the gal to whom to talk! =)  actually, just call me switzerland,
>queen of stickers and shirts.  yeah; i like that.  (thanks, lorindigo, for
>trying to help me out, but i think we have a winner! =}) )  anyhow, i
promise
>not to post too much more, really... peace, love, and riceberries, sarah


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>how 'bout (according to your preference) signs that say "strawberry" or
>"black beans and rice?"

      sorry, guys, but i'm in a post-o-rama kind of mood today... just delete
me.  i understand.  anyhow, big chuckles on this one! =)  i wish i were
going!  but, which to choose?  it would have to be "strawberries and rice"
for me, i think.  call me switzerland.  anyhow, if you want to have tees
made, i'm the gal to whom to talk! =)  actually, just call me switzerland,
queen of stickers and shirts.  yeah; i like that.  (thanks, lorindo, for
trying to help me out, but i think we have a winner! =}) )  anyhow, i promise
not to post too much more, really... peace, love, and riceberries, sarah

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wow how bizarre,
i also fell in love with ig in 8th grade and i too am a college freshman.
unfortunately noone here really likes ig, especially my roommate(except
that he does like tmf). thank god for jan or else ig would be dead out here.
ben

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i was in tower searching and searching for something to buy and guess
what, i couldn't find anything. its' been years since this has happened
to me. a few years ago i'd just jump my way to the opera section and
would be frazzeled on what to buy. but now i listen to that freakin'
music all day long and i need a break.
so a few months ago i asked you guys for some cd recommendations and you
really came through. if it wasn't for you i would have totally overlooked
shawn mullins,ani,and jackopierce. but i need some new music in my life.
so if you could i would really appreciate it if you could just mail me
back some cd recommendations.
thanks in advance,
ben

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from:         mediamongr@aol.com
subject:      re: a little story

in a message dated 96-03-05, [name omitted out of a vestige of politeness]
writes:

> my friends and i are
>sitting in the bleachers at the omni talking about
>how cool it would be to run into the ig since we
>were on their home turf.

(snipping)
>we go ripping out of our seats and try to get to her section

(later)
>so we go
>back to our seats and keep watching her.  right
>before the game is over we see her get up and
>head for the door.  so again, we bolted down
>the stairs to the concourse nd waited for her to
>come out.  my partner walks right up to her and
>says " you're es"

[name omitted], just in case no one else has already pointed this out, please
let the above bits of your story serve as evidence.

1.  you did not "run into" emily saliers, unless you mean that literally.

2.   if you were aware of being on someone's "home turf," you should have
been aware of the accompanying respect that this realization implies.

i felt this needed to be said, and i'm surprised nobody said it before i did.
accuse me of bitching, but this is an issue that has little to compromise
on:  respect.

lorie driscoll
http://home.aol.com/mediamongr

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