lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-03b


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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 21:02:07 -0800
reply-to:     "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         "emily d. mark" <emark@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      nigc- jane & new orleans!!

ok, i was so excited about this that i had to share it with y'all... jane
goodall came and spoke at my school (usc) today, and i waited two hours
to get into her lecture and got a book signed for my sister, who is going
to go nuts when she finds out (she _loves_ jane!!!)!!! yaaaahhhh!!! very
excited, i am. she talked a lot about conservation, which reminded me of
ig in a way with some of the phrasing she used. conservationists are cool...
        i also will miss all you guys next week when i beat you all to
new orleans for spring break when i visit my best friend. as the no
concert is during my finals, i will not be making a return trip,
unfortunately!!! oh, well.. there will be other concerts, other plane
trips...   love em'ly

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 00:43:42 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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from:         jan stevens <janinsdale@aol.com>
subject:      re: ig songs not on their albums
x-to:         gsajaf@noctrl.edu

in a message dated 96-03-06 09:32:45 est, gsajaf@noctrl.edu (tritessa)
writes:

>
>does anyone else remember a version of "iko iko" (pardon my spelling)
>that ig did for the movie cocktail?

no way!  i didnt know that!  i am running out to rent the movie!

jan

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 00:50:19 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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from:         jan stevens <janinsdale@aol.com>
subject:      ttbt

hello!

i like ttbt...not especially one of my favorites, but i cannot get over the
amazing fact that it sounds almost identical to an rem song that appears on
the "dead letter office" cd.  it is an instrumental that eventually turns
into a cover of "king of the road".  does anyone know which i am speaking of?
i dont have the cd here, i'll pass the name of the song along when i get
home!

have a great one,
jan

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 00:59:08 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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from:         jan stevens <janinsdale@aol.com>
subject:      re: the ears of a child...
x-to:         debbie@mei.com

in a message dated 96-03-06 18:14:39 est, debbie@mei.com (deb reiser) writes:

>
>>listening to n i s the other night in the car, was driving along with my
>>son. he's an avid fan also (he's 5) and southland in the springtime was
>>on. he commented afterward that it was an emily song, and i asked him how
>>he knew (he's darn bright but we've barely discussed the difference in
>>amy vs. emily music) and he said: "amy's voice is darker"...
>
>ohhhh....that gave me goosebumps!

yea, it gave me goosebumps too!  cool story!

jan

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 22:01:48 -0800
reply-to:     linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      good songs, bad songs, sf, english papers
in-reply-to:  <a0ca08c6085@student.princeton.edu>

>  these are a couple of songs that i don't think hold up to
> > regular indigo standards... (feel free to add or argue...)
> > "123"
> > "hand me downs"
> > "center stage"
> > "cedar tree"

oh wow. i like all of these a lot. actually, there is no ig song i don't
like but god, it just makes my heart ache that people don't like cedar
tree. i take that song on so many different levels. it's so perfect as a
kind of homage(!)  to someone you love and respect.

ok, so i fully missed strange fire day ( i am so behind ) but y'all were
chatting about literature and i perked right up. for my american
literature class i just wrote a paper on a model of christian charity and
what do you know--used the opening lines of strange fire as the theme of
my paper. the author completely speaks of the people who used "strange
fire" in order to make his point about being charitable and imparting of
our physicalsubstance to each other. it totally related to amy's
song, what with the fire in the blood (physical) powering the incense of
the soul (christian love).  something like that. anyway, i got a good
grade and ihave a sneaking suspicion that cool teacher of mine likes ig.
every english department has at least a couple of ig fans--even byu, home
of all things non-indigo. luckily i am here at usc, and several of my
teachers have splendid taste in music. ah, happy day!

beware the ides of march,
linda

                **and if through forwardness or wantonness, etc.,
                she shake it off, at any time, she is at no rest
                in her spirit, until she take it up again...**
                                ---the journal of john winthrop

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 01:09:13 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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from:         jan stevens <janinsdale@aol.com>
subject:      re: re[2]: super bitmap recorded cd
x-to:         lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu

in a message dated 96-03-06 21:15:01 est, lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu (lisa
hardaway) writes:

> i saw this cd in a little music store in omaha, ne
>          $30.  didn't get....still kickin' myself.

i bought it at best buy for only 19.95!  i am sure its still around
somewhere!
jan

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 22:14:42 -0800
reply-to:     "susan m. anderson" <sanderso@direct.ca>
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from:         "susan m. anderson" <sanderso@direct.ca>
subject:      re: i love my mommy...

        i envy theresa.
        i am 24 years old.  i have been living on my own for 6 years now.  i
moved down to the big city on my own, my mom says no problem.  i join the
army, my mom says no problem.  i just quit the job i've held for five years
to go on military training, my mom says no problem.  i'm training to go on a
un tasking to some god-forsaken war-zone, my mom says no problem.
        i tell mom of my plans to take a short vacation to new orleans to go
to a concert or two (nobody you'd know ;) ).  she flips.  she's been
e-mailing me all sorts of dire predictions if i go on this trip...  she's
got relatives i've barely even met praying that i won't go.  (is n.o. really
such a bad place?)
        what gives?
        (maybe it's an anti-ig neural implant.... gotta keep that love from
spreading somehow, buncha freeloving hippies.)

ah well.  i hope to be there anyhow...

persevering,

susan


>would you believe it folks.  yes i love my mommy.
>
>        she's given me the go ahead to...uh, well....go!!!!!  i'm simply
>amazed.  she's kinda not too keen on the indigo girls (referring to them
>and my other cds as "retard music"), but she knows how much i love them,
>how big this 21 is - now my brothers are insisting that i'm spoiled.  my
>bestfriend says i am, but says "so what...you're going".
>
>        so.....i'll be in new orleans.  kim's great, bert's great, you
>all rule.  but my mommy might be a notch above.
>
>        she's a classy lady, whether these plans go through or not.
>
>ccsbzzz,
>teri
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                and i wish <you> insight
                                to battle love's blindness
                strength from the milk of human kindness
                a safe place for all
                                the pieces that scatter
                learn to pretend
                                there's more than love that matters...
                                _emily saliers_

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date:         wed, 6 mar 1996 23:08:44 -0800
reply-to:     derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
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from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: kid fears (so i'm a little late!)
x-to:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.960306131658.1588a-100000@wisdom.stanford.edu>

as far as the "skippin' stones, you'll go further if you are smooth" part
in kid fears i think its pretty clearly about being true to yourself even
though its easier just to go along with the status quo. amy, in some
interview, said this passage is about the music business among other
things.
        just my opinion....

derek

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 07:22:32 -0500
reply-to:     rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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from:         rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject:      lineup for no jazz festival?

i know this was posted a while back.  does anyone have a list of
other performers for the new orleans jazz festival?

i told a friend that ig is playing there and she is considering
making the trip.  specific dates and ticket info would also be
appreciated.


rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
goddard space flight center
greenbelt, maryland  20771

hubble space telescope project
flight assurance manager
phone:  301-286-8455
fax:  301-286-1779

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 13:33:40 +0100
reply-to:     alfabeta@mailbox.hol.nl
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from:         alfabeta@mailbox.hol.nl
subject:      sos

hi y'all!!

is there someone (awake) in europe or the us who could please inform me how
i can unsubscribe myself from this list? i'm leaving for a holiday so my
mailbox will be *blown away* if i don't!!! i tried several times, however i
still get a message that tells me i did it all wrong!! am i really that
stupid...

please give me a clue!!!

thanks

florine

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 09:44:44 -0500
reply-to:     katie mccurry <ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
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from:         katie mccurry <ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
subject:      nigc- cd's for sale

hey y'all. i can't afford to have both of these now, so i am selling
the nields- gotta get over greta,
& dar williams- mortal city.

we have talked about both of these, so i figured this was the best place
to do it, don't you think??
both are brand-spankin' new & in perf. cond. i'll sell them for $14
each.(they were ~$15.75) if anyone is interested in both, i'd be willing
to strike a deal) please e- mail me personally if you are interested!
love,katie ><}}}"> ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu

bye!

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 09:48:14 est
reply-to:     amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
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from:         amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
subject:      recommendations

hiya ben

you're playing with fire asking for cd recommendations - how many emails can your
account take ???

ok, here goes.....

oasis "(whats the story) morning glory"  not too much like the other stuff
discussed on the list but music which will always have more to give every listen,
and lyrics which are how you really feel !  and it kicks ass !  and it takes the
dog for a walk.....well ok not that good.....  its rare something this good gets
to the top of the uk album charts.

all about eve "all about eve", their first album, 10 years old ?   at the time
was my favourite album, gorgeous melodies, spacey / goth / pre-raphelite(ish)
lyrics ( whatever that means )

kate bush "the kick inside" / "hounds of love" for starters, it seems most people
either love or hate kate ( hey !  that rhymes !   maybe i am a poet after all ??? ),
anyway if i was on a desert island it would be one of her albums i'd take.

texas "rick's road", just gorgeous.

by the way whats ani d f like ?  i keep hearing her name but i've never heard
anything by her, which cd should i get.

happily confused
amit
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so a few months ago i asked you guys for some cd recommendations and you
really came through. if it wasn't for you i would have totally overlooked
shawn mullins,ani,and jackopierce. but i need some new music in my life.
so if you could i would really appreciate it if you could just mail me
back some cd recommendations.
thanks in advance,
ben

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 09:38:17 -0600
reply-to:     nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
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from:         lisa on the prairie <nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu>
subject:      re: recommendations

on wed, 06 mar 1996 21:16:37 -0700, <verdi@imap2.asu.edu> wrote:

> so a few months ago i asked you guys for some cd recommendations and you
>really came through. if it wasn't for you i would have totally overlooked
>shawn mullins,ani,and jackopierce. but i need some new music in my life.
>so if you could i would really appreciate it if you could just mail me
>back some cd recommendations.
>thanks in advance,
>ben

ben,
one suggestion off the top of my head would be the indians.  they only have
one album out which is called "indianism" (if i remember right).  depending
on what kind of music you like, you might like the story and disappear
fear.  both of them tend to have good harmonies and nice lyrics.

another suggestion is jill sobule.  her self titled album is great!  it's
the one with "i kissed a girl" on it.

i'm sure i'll think of more later, but if you haven't heard any of these i
urge you to check them out!
lisa
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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 11:14:51 -0500
reply-to:     cojehali@aol.com
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from:         cojehali@aol.com
subject:      re: amy & emily

in a message dated 96-03-06 13:24:17 est, you write:

>oh, here's a thought that's bound to get me into trouble: people are equally
>divided between amy fans and emily fans, but maybe emily fans like emily's
>_music_ whereas amy fans just like _amy_. *ducking and running*
>
ok, at the risk of getting myself into trouble as well, i just have to say,
lorinda, i don't think your observation is all that far off.......see, i like
amy and emily both (it's darn tough for me to pick a favorite) but i adore
emily because her lyrics speak to my heart - her songs are usually the ones i
really relate to the most, and they touch me very deeply......while i worship
amy because of her passionate and heart-wrenching delivery of the songs,
especially live.  her performances always leave me awestruck, i could watch
her for hours.  and i could equally spend hours in contemplation over the
lyrics emily writes.   of course, amy has also written some great lyrics and
emily gives some wonderful performances...but maybe that is a possible
explanation of why more of the actual *songs* that made it into the top 10
were emily's?  just a thought......:)

-connie
(who wishes she had a cool signature quote!)

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ok, i can't remember who it was that had asked for some recommended cd's, so
i'll just blurt out some of my favorites that i haven't really seen mentioned
yet:

ummm...who first?  let me see.....oh!  shawn colvin is amazing...i especially
like her steady on cd (i have yet to hear her newest one, which upsets me, but
what can ya do?  well, buy it i guess....but i'm poor)  anyway, i totally
interrupt myself all the time, so bear with me.  ok, who else?  umm....well,
mary chapin-carpenter is another favorite of mine, though i only have her
two most recent cd's (come on come on and stones in the road...)they're
both great.  ig even sing back up on a few, along with shawn colvin.
just a little added bonus there. =)  umm....yeah, i have jill sobule's cd too
and it's really cool...kinda humorous as well.  hheee....oh, and there's
this pittsburgh band that i've become really attached to lately called brownie
mary.  i just saw my first live show of theirs in cleveland and it was wonderful.  the lead singer's voice is amazing.  not sure if they have cd's at big music stores or not, though.....anyway, those are just my little suggestions.
as you can see, i kinda tend to flow toward women songwriters/singers....
easier for me to sing to, i'm sure that's part of it.  but i just totally can relate
to so many of them........anyway, yeah, that's about it.

oh, yeah, and someone has said something about jane siberry...the only song
i've heard of hers (besides her on backup for ig) is it can't rain all the time
which is on the crow sdtrk.  (great movie by the way....great song as well!)
so, which cd should i start out with?  any suggestions?????

well, hope i helped someone out out there!!  take care,

lesley

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 17:47:52 gmt
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      converting to igism

i'll jump in on this 'when i discovered ig' thread.   i think i mentioned on
ctf day that it was this song that hooked me on the line and i've been a
huge fan ever since.  my conversion story is really to do with my girlfriend
erika.  we've been together for 17 wonderful months and were friends before
that. she's five years younger than me and while i'm a firm believer in age
not mattering in relationships it does throw out some interesting things
like musical taste.

she grew up only listening to mainstream radio and the top forty - favourite
artists were whitney houston, bon jovi and various dance music acts, and the
only live gig she'd been to was curtis stigers...*pulls face*  i can respect
other people's personal taste, but i'm afraid for too long i thought our
musical differences were just irreconcilable!  anyway, gradually she's 'come
round' - i took her to see mary cc in concert last year and she was blown
away! ever since then she's been getting really enthusiastic about a lot of
the artists i like and it's really exciting to watch her 'discovering' that
music can really mean something.   she bought me 1200c for christmas and is
now becoming as much of an ig fan as i am.

i've been playing guitar for years and a couple of months ago erika asked me
to teach her the guitar -  i was amazed! i've never taught anyone who's
picked it up so fast!  and then i suddenly discover that she can sing!
like, really well!  all of a sudden a wonderful new side has opened up to
our relationship -  instead of watching telly in the evenings we'll jam a
few ig songs - ghost and galileo being her faves at the moment - and she's
so good at picking up harmonies - she gets all the little nuances in some of
emily's parts absolutely note for note! i'm so proud of her!

ain't love grand!

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************


seffy

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 12:46:41 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         claire johnson <mmedido@aol.com>
subject:      re: don't kill me for this...
x-to:         chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu

hey chris and everybody !
in a message dated 96-03-06 19:43:43 est,chris talbot writes:

> komh is truly one of
>amy's more wonderful songs.  i'm suggesting even more passion (if
>possible), more love, more pain than blood and fire, not to mention
>better guitar chords, more fun to play, more musically complex.

well chris, i'm going to have to give it another chance,often the songs
that take me longer to warm up to end up being my favorites. amy ray,
in an interview with performing songwriter mag. in 1994 gave this
critique on that song which may be of interest:
[question] are there any song you've wished you could go back
and revise after the fact?
[ar]......that song "keeper of my heart," i wish i had written a different
chorus for that because i really like the verses. but the chorus is kind
of immature and a little too introspective and kind of melodramatic.
and the chorus is too reminicent of "blood and fire.".......

>leisure and toil, still it's canvas and oil,
>there's just no medium for life, so we must love . . . until we are ashes
>to dust).
your observations on hou were beautiful. i just want to clarify that
i didn't say that i disliked it, rather it was my evil friends.
their objection is not lyrical, but has to do w/the singing.
for me those lines hit to the heart of the artists dilema.
while we are driven to create, we know that ultimately that
"there is no medium for life". do we then cease to try? no !

n*i*s
>colder?  maybe more angry?  but that's why it's my favorite!

no... by "colder" i think i was talking about atmosphere and tone.
okay! example: rop has a "warm" feeling to it , probably due to
the different production values (african percussion ect.) n*i*s
has a more austere feeling to it, rough, pure, basic. i usually cite
n*i*s as my favorite ig album. it's more personal for me.
again, ar gives an interesting critique on n*i*s in the
aforementioned preforming songwriter article (which can still be
back ordered, i believe, or accessed in the "lifeblood" ig article
archives.)
one thing i've learned from this whole "don't kill me..." and piquets
poll thread, is that one persons least favorite song is allways
another persons favorite...i know that we have gotten off the
"song of the day"  thread a bit and have talked about songs
"out of order", but sometimes the temptation is just too great
and one just has to "color outside the lines."
peace man !
claire
>art is a calling...artists do not just paint for themeselves... they
  paint because they have to< (audrey flack)

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 13:12:03 -0500
reply-to:     jacqui <jacquelyn.ottomeyer@yale.edu>
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ok guys

i am one of maybe 5 ig fans that i know or have ever met (before i
subscribed to this list that is).  therefore i have never discussed some
of this stuff with people at all, which is why i like the list so much.

but i just have a question...i know i may seem like perhaps not as much
of a fan because of this, but...does anyone else tend not to categorize
songs by who wrote them?  because i never do.  as a matter of fact, when
i went to fill out the survey, i didn't know what to put as my favorite
"emily song" or my favorite "amy song" because i didn't even know who did
what.  i mean, i just don't pay that much attention to who wrote which
thing.  i do, however, completely understand (now that i've looked at my
cd covers and stuff) what you mean about amy's being darker.  but i don't
know, i don't prefer one to the other.

another thing...i love "touch me fall" and it seemed from the survey
results that most people didn't.  do you?

another thing...you guys are awesome!  i've never seen ig live (it's one
of my biggest wishes) and i am at school in connecticut, and live in
missouri.  now, when ig will be in no, i will be in ct.  and when ig will
be like 2 hours from ct, i will be in mo.  it's so depressing.  this has
happened with every person i want to see live so far this school
year!(rem, tori amos).  oh, well.  have fun anyway!!!!!!

love
jacqui

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reply-to:     "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
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subject:      re: recommendations

  depending
>on what kind of music you like, you might like the story and disappear
>fear.  both of them tend to have good harmonies and nice lyrics.

oh yes!  i agree.  especially df (just because i've heard more of their
stuff and they are great).  also, in a totally different genre of music,
have you ever heard of rusted root?  they are fabulous, and i would
reccomend them to anybody

january simpson
as a child i was an imaginary playmate...
--tom robbins, even cowgirls get the blues

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subject:      my .02

i am new to this list, but have loved every message.  for some reason,
this song (baf) moves me every time i hear it.  i have often used lines
from the song when conversing with friends, for they seem to be "just
right" for the situation.  i am looking for someone who will take as much
as i give, give back as much as i need, and still have the will to live.
amen.

thank you,
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subject:      help...

greetings from the blizzardy (is that a word???) state of massachusetts.  just
a plea to everyone out there: i'm taking a class in literary criticism this
semester, and our next paper has to be an ironic criticism of song lyrics.
so, naturally, i thought of ig... :)  (when _don't_ i think of ig?)  but i'm
having trouble deciding on a song to use...i need the lyrics to clearly show
irony, but past that, i'm open.  soooooooo, for all of you wonderful people
out there, could ya help me out??  pleeeeeeeease?????? :)  you're welcome
to email me privately! thanks y'all!

sue

"standing at opposite poles, equal partners in a mystery"  -emily saliers

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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
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on wed, 6 mar 1996, jess wrote:

>      in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect that most of the
> list members fell in love with the ig during their release of swamp
> ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if anyone here
> "met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their self-titled, or rop.

the video for "closer to fine" was my first exposure, and i bought the
album the next week.  saw them live at the birchmere a few weeks later.
and they haven't let me down since.

deb \ indigo@clark.net \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo

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>
> greetings from the blizzardy (is that a word???) state of massachusetts.

ain't that the truth.... =)

> a plea to everyone out there: i'm taking a class in literary criticism this
> semester, and our next paper has to be an ironic criticism of song lyrics.
> so, naturally, i thought of ig... :)  (when _don't_ i think of ig?)  but i'm
> having trouble deciding on a song to use...i need the lyrics to clearly show
> irony, but past that, i'm open.  soooooooo, for all of you wonderful people
> out there, could ya help me out??  pleeeeeeeease?????? :)  you're welcome
> to email me privately! thanks y'all!
>


how about love's recovery.  the whole song is ironic.  friends we
though had it all together.  no one gets a life time rehearsal. safe
within the arms of love's discovery.

plus the song kicks butt =) (even if ms. ray didn't write it *duck*)

                                -- chris


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subject:      song of the day

so...

what is the song of the day today?

trant

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 12:46:11 cst
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subject:      re: converting to igism
x-to:         seffy@epic.co.uk

that's great seffy.  it's great to be able to share a hobby
with...well...anybody for that matter.  even better if it's also your
lover!!!

my husband and i both play guitar but we both have such different tastes in
music. i'm more non-mainstream liking ig and a british band from the 70's
called 'renaissance' (have you heard of them?).  the hubby likes hard rock
music - - yuck!  anyway, i started getting into ig (with so - 'least
complicated' to be specific) and he actually enjoys them too!  especially
since i've just gotten over being infatuated with melissa etheridge and he
can't stand her raspy voice - so ig was, i guess, a very soothing
conversion for him.  anyway <ramble, ramble>, we both play guitar <you
already said that jen...> but we've never played together <sniff sniff>.
*tangent starts here -->*  [actually, it's my fault.  when i was in high
school, i was in the jazz/rock band and i recorded one of our sessions so i
could practice at home.  i was so proud of how well we played, i played the
tape for my mom.  she said it sounded absolutely terrible and my guitar
sounded so absolutely terrible - - it destroyed my dream of becoming a
musical performer.  i dropped out of the band and never went back.  and do
you know...she never did realize that i had dropped out??]

anyway, since that incident, i haven't played in front of anyone.  so when
my hubby and i met, we played together here and there, but not much.  if
i'm playing and he comes in the room - - i stop playing.  but he and i have
gotten together a bit to play some ig stuff.  and best yet.. he and i are
going to see my idols in person in new orleans in may!  i can't wait.

anyway, just had to talk endlessly...we're slow here at compaq...so i
figured i'd write to y'all.

see ya,
- jen hall
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from rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>, on 3/7/96 5:47 pm:
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i'll jump in on this 'when i discovered ig' thread.   i think i mentioned
on
ctf day that it was this song that hooked me on the line and i've been a
huge fan ever since.  my conversion story is really to do with my
girlfriend
erika.  we've been together for 17 wonderful months and were friends before
that. she's five years younger than me and while i'm a firm believer in age
not mattering in relationships it does throw out some interesting things
like musical taste.

she grew up only listening to mainstream radio and the top forty -
favourite
artists were whitney houston, bon jovi and various dance music acts, and
the
only live gig she'd been to was curtis stigers...*pulls face*  i can
respect
other people's personal taste, but i'm afraid for too long i thought our
musical differences were just irreconcilable!  anyway, gradually she's
'come
round' - i took her to see mary cc in concert last year and she was blown
away! ever since then she's been getting really enthusiastic about a lot of
the artists i like and it's really exciting to watch her 'discovering' that
music can really mean something.   she bought me 1200c for christmas and is
now becoming as much of an ig fan as i am.

i've been playing guitar for years and a couple of months ago erika asked
me
to teach her the guitar -  i was amazed! i've never taught anyone who's
picked it up so fast!  and then i suddenly discover that she can sing!
like, really well!  all of a sudden a wonderful new side has opened up to
our relationship -  instead of watching telly in the evenings we'll jam a
few ig songs - ghost and galileo being her faves at the moment - and she's
so good at picking up harmonies - she gets all the little nuances in some
of
emily's parts absolutely note for note! i'm so proud of her!

ain't love grand!

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************


seffy

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reply-to:     carissa! alma! garza! <cgsol@mail.utexas.edu>
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from:         carissa! alma! garza! <cgsol@mail.utexas.edu>
subject:      hello, some scattered thoughts on ig

hello, i just subscribed to this group and wanted to say ... uh, hello,
again, and share a couple of thoughts, since that seems to be the point of
this goshdarn list, eh?

> 3.  strings:  emily uses d'addario light gauge and amy uses

hey, me too!

yeah, who cares.

anyway, when i first subscribed last week, over a five-day period i got
nearly 150 individual messages from this list.  innocent me didn't realize
that it wasn't an automatic digest form, so my point is what?  that there
sure seems to be quite a lot of enthusiasm for this subject, and rightly
so!

(why are the phrases "quite a lot" and "quite a bit" synonyms?  hm.)

also, in listening to 1200 curfews, i was really disappointed that the
version of chickenman used was the one used.  last year they played in
austin, and during chickenman amy went into this incredible soliloquoy
which was vastly more entertaining than the usual inbetween song chatter,
not that that isn't great too, what i mean is this:  it was a shame they
didn't use/record that concert.

the end.

oh yes, one more thing.  for anyone who might be interested in another
list, and i'm sure most or at least some of you already know about this,
there is a great folk-music list, for the
not-*quite*-so-national/well-known folk scene, with frequent mentions of
indigo girls, ani difranco, john gorka, martin sexton, dar williams.... etc
etc.... and if you *don't* know about it email me and i'll tell you the
address, i don't know if offhand.   if you  *do* know about it, well...
good.  just in case, i wanted to recommend it.

thanks!

c
cgsol@mail.utexas.edu
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
oh, what i won't give
to have the things that mean the most
not to mean the things i miss.
                                        -emily saliers
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 14:32:35 cst
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subject:      indigo girls screen saver.

     hello!

        has any one seen the commercial screen saver they released ?  is it
     any good and where can i get a copy ?

        and are any of you from/based in ireland ??

     yours,


     andrew

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subject:      re: indigo girls screen saver.
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on thu, 7 mar 1996, andrew white wrote:

>         has any one seen the commercial screen saver they released ?  is it
>      any good and where can i get a copy ?
>
yeah, i saw one of those "multimedia" cd things for cd-rom once... i
think it's called "touch me fall".....  but i'm not sure....  it was
about $35.00 i think... well, in american money at least..  i think it;s
an interactive thinkg with pictures and video and song clips...  should
be cool for anyone with a cd-rom...
-mandy

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subject:      screen saver

i've seen many places blowing them out for like $3 a piece.  check
your neighborhood best buy, or camelot music stores.
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subject:      nigc: shawn colvin question

based on all the different shawn colvin recommendations on the list, when i
saw a cd single by her for $5.99, i bought it. the title of the cd is every
little thing he does is magic. i've really enjoyed it.

my question is this: is "fearless heart" a song she covered from someone
else? if so, who did it? the song seem vaguely familiar and since i've only
listened to about three times the lyrics are coming way too easy to me. i
looked at the liner notes and it says s. earle wrote it. didn't know who
that was. can anyone help?

sherry

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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      nigc kdlang's nose

hmmm, i'm surprised no one mentioned kd lang on letterman last night. i stayed
up just to watch it. (ok, i'm lying, i stayed up to play guitar and eat ice
cream, and i _also_ watched it.) anyway, it was good. it was very...well...
kd-like, i guess. but i don't know much kd stuff, so what do i know. anyway,
my _point_ is, did you know that  kd lang has no bone in her nose? yup, there
it is, you heard it here first. she showed dave how she can bend her nose all
the way over to one side. eeew. yucky.

ya learn something new every day...
folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

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lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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subject:      ig screen saver

greetings,

not gone yet...hehe, but i saw the ??? about this in the digest.=20
i picked up a 3.5 disk version for $2.00 at camelot music in sf last
month. it has about 1 - 2 minutes of tmf, which is used as the
screensaver, you can have it appear in a variety of ways, with or
without the audio clip, plus there are two games included, but i haven't
played them yet.=20
i think you can also download for free off the sony web
page(www.sony.com).=20
i am running win95 and the plus pack (486/33 w/ 8 megs) and it works
great.=20
now i am really leaving for sf for the next 10 days...work, work, work.
seeeee ya....=20

lisa
=00

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subject:      re: hello, some scattered thoughts on ig
x-to:         carissa! alma! garza! <cgsol@mail.utexas.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01540b00ad64f477cd3d@[128.83.102.61]>

i am a new member to the list and i just wanted to say hello.  i was also
wondering if anyone had some suggestions on some other lists i may
enjoy.  i have to subscribe to 4 lists as project for one of my classes.
if anyone has any suggestions, let me know.

i also wanted say that i am very surprised to find that there are guys on
this list.  everytime i try to make my male friends listen ig, they tell
me that it's "chic" music and they're not interested.  maybe i just need
new friends, but i would love to find a man that understands why
everytime i hear e and a i get chills.

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reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: i love my mommy...
x-to:         "susan m. anderson" <sanderso@direct.ca>
in-reply-to:  <1.5.4b11.16.19960306222029.281f25c0@direct.ca>

susan,
        go for the guilt factor.  myparents use it on me, so on my 21st
birthday, i just might be sober because my mommy told me not too.

        it's funny because when i started the conversation with her, i
said "okay mom, brace yourself...cause i've got something that i want for
my birthday and it's pretty big..."

        she retorts: "no!  you're not getting a tattoo..."

        i'll have 2 days in louisiana to do that behind her back...
right across my arm "by grace my sight is growing stronger".

        you are all invited to my funeral.

ccsbzzz,
terio

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subject:      (nigc) hey, all you lushes...

you all must think i'm the biggest alcoholic in the world...

        but this is funny...esp. if you've done it just once (and i know
you all have).  my cousin sent me this from his office from a friend of
his because he's heard all the drinking stories and has dozens of his own
that are tons worse
        btw, i also concur with claire about "keeper of my heart".  i
think what she meant to say was that it wasn't one of her favorites nor
is it mine.  now i will be assassinated by angry listmembers in new orleans.
help claire!!!  now where's the money you owe me for putting my butt on
the line for something i don't even agree with!!!  ;)

anyways...for a little drinking humor, read below...

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subject: ever reached level 5?
author:  nakelly@uci.edu (nancy kelly) at internet
date:    3/5/96 1:26 pm

>the five levels of drinking
>>
>>level 1
>>it's 11;00 on a weeknight, you've had a few beers. you get up to
>>leave because you have work the next day and one of your friends buys
>>another round. one of your unemployed friends. here at level one you
>>think to yourself, "oh come on, this is silly, why as long as i get
>>seven hours of sleep (snap fingers), i'm cool.".
>>
>>level 2
>>it's midnight. you've had a few more beers. you've just spent 20
>>minutes arguing against artificial turf. you get up to leave again,
>>but at level two, a little devil appears on your shoulder. and now
>>you're thinking, "hey! i'm out with my friends! what am i working for
>>anyway? these are the good times! besides, as long as i get five
>>hours sleep (snaps fingers) i'm cool.".
>>
>>level 3
>>one in the morning. you've abandoned beer for tequila. you've just
>>spent 20 minutes arguing for artificial turf. and now you're
>>thinking, "our waitress is the most beautiful woman i've ever seen!"
>>at level three, you love the world. on the way to the bathroom you buy
>>a drink for the stranger at the end of the bar just because you like
>>his face. you get drinking fantasies. (like,"hey fellas, if we bought
>>our own bar, we could live together forever. we could do it. tommy,
>>you could cook.") but at level three, that devil is a little bit
>>bigger....and he's buying. and you're thinking "oh, come on, come on
>>now. as long as i get three hours sleep...and a complete change of
>>blood (snaps fingers), i'm cool.".
>>
>>level 4
>>two in the morning. and the devil is bartending. for last call, you
>>ordered a bottle of rum and a coke. you are artificial turf! this time
>>on your way to the bathroom, you punch the stranger at the end of the
>>bar. just because you don't like his face! and now you're thinking,
>>"our busboy is the best looking man i've ever seen." you and your
>>friends decide to leave, right after you get thrown out, and one of
>>you knows an....after hours bar. and here, at level four, you
>>actually think to yourself, "well....as long as i'm only going to get
>>a few hours sleep anyway, i may as well....stay up all night!!!! yeah!
>>that'd be good for me. i don't mind going to that board meeting
>>looking like keith richards. yeah, i'll turn that around, make it work
>>for me. and besides, as long as i get 31 hours sleep tomorrow
>>..................cool.
>>
>>level 5
>>five in the morning. after unsuccessfully trying to get your money
>>back at the tattoo parlor ("but i don't even know anybody named
>>ruby!!!"), you and your friends wind up across the state line in a bar
>>with guys who have been in prison as recently as...that morning. it's
>>the kind of place where even the devil is going, "uh, i gotta turn in.
>>i gotta be in hell at nine. i've got that brunch with hitler, i >>can't
miss that." at this point, you're all drinking some kind of >>thick blue
liquor, like something from a klingon wedding. a waitress >>with fresh
stitches comes over, and you think to yourself, "someday >>i'm gonna
marry that girl!!" one of your friends stands up and >>screams, "we're
drivin' to florida!!!!!"- and passes out. you crawl >>outside for air ,
and then you hit the worst part of level five - the >>sun. you weren't
expecting that were you? you never do. you walk out >>of a bar in
daylight, and you see people on their way to work, or >>jogging. and they
look at you - and they know. and they say..."who's >>ruby?"  let's be
honest, if you're 19 and you stay up all night, it's >>like a victory,
like you've beat the night, but if you're over 30, then >>that sun is
like god's flashlight.  we all say the same prayer then, >>"i swear, i
will never do this again (how long?) as long as i live!" >>and some of us
have that little addition, "and this time, i mean it!" >>
>

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 14:39:18 pst
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     i got one on disks (as opposed to cds) at musicland or some other
     music store for like $3.  it has video clips from touch me fall and
     all kinds of ways you can arrange them as your screen saver.
     yvette


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on thu, 7 mar 1996, andrew white wrote:

>         has any one seen the commercial screen saver they released ?  is it
>      any good and where can i get a copy ?
>
yeah, i saw one of those "multimedia" cd things for cd-rom once... i
think it's called "touch me fall".....  but i'm not sure....  it was
about $35.00 i think... well, in american money at least..  i think it;s
an interactive thinkg with pictures and video and song clips...  should
be cool for anyone with a cd-rom...
-mandy

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organization: ecsd
subject:      political humor {nigc}

hi all,

sorry for the nigc, but i thought this joke was worth sharing,

peace,

dan

>political humor:

newt gingrich is on an airplane, flying back to d.c.  the guy sitting
next to him is immersed in a book and pays no attention to newt.
toward the end of the flight newt asks

newt: "what book is that you're reading?"
man:  "it's called 'deductive reasoning'"
newt: "sounds interesting, what's it about?"
man:  "let me give you an example"
newt: "okay"
man:  "do you have a dog?"
newt: "yes, i do as a matter of fact"
man:  "i would deduce from this then, that you have a yard as well,
no?"
newt: "yes! i do have a yard"
man:  "then i would further deduce that you have a house next to this
yard?"
newt: "i do!"
man:  "then i'll bet you have a family don't you?"
newt: "yes, a very nice family!"
man:  "and you're a heterosexual, aren't you?"
newt: "you betcha!  i'm beginning to see how this works!"

later that week newt goes out and buys the book on deductive reasoning
and is determined to read it cover to cover on his return flight.  his
plane takes off and he begins reading.  two hours later the man sitting
next to him notices how newt is so engrossed in this book and just can't
keep himself from being impolite and interrupting:

man:  "excuse me sir, what's that you're reading?"
newt: "it's called 'deductive reasoning'"
man:  "i see you've almost finished.  have you learned how to use
       deductive reasoning yet?"
newt: "well yes, as a matter of fact i have.  let me show you you it
       works.  do you have a dog?"
man:  "no"
newt: "well then, you must be a homosexual!"

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on wed, 6 mar 1996, lisa hardaway wrote:

>           i saw this cd in a little music store in omaha, ne
>           $30.  didn't get....still kickin' myself.
>           towanda
>
> --
>

ditto, only i saw it in tower records in new orleans . . .

rachel

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subject:      new folk fest!!

hey listers...

just dropping in with some info on a new folk fest happening this
summer...no, the girls will not be there (but i'll see everyone in newport
:)~  ), but there is a great line up:

saturday, june 15th and 16th in columbia, pa...near lancaster, pa

artists scheduled to perform: dar williams, richard shindell, john sebastian,
riders in the storm, toni bird, vance gilbert, iris dement, kim trusty, ian
mathews and others...

for more info, call 717-684-5249 or feel free to e-mail me :)

peace in '96!

cathy

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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      kid fears decifering

hello all

        i think it is a given that i'm no expert on understanding the ig
complex and intriuging(sp?) lyrics but here my take on it.
        i agree with the whole thing of , wouldn't it be great some times
to have only the fears you had as a child to hold you back. back in the
days when all you worried about was how much playtime you could get in
before mom called you in for dinner. the 'pain from pearls' line i think
is in reference to the pearls of wisdom, or pearls of great price. i
think shes talking about how much it hurts some times to learn what the
world id really like, the diffuculty of gaining the wisdom yu need to
live. the 'secret staircase' could be just wishing for somewhere you
could go and all the bad things went away. somewhere that was shut off
from the rest of the world, which you controlled completly.
        well those are just some ideas, nothing definate thats for damn
sure. well i gotta run. take it easy and keep the peace in your pocket

kristal

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i'm sorry, are we being a bit to melodramatic. stop me before i start
sending you nasty messages. jesus christ calm down!

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on thu, 7 mar 1996, sherry sierra wrote:

> my question is this: is "fearless heart" a song she covered from someone
> else? if so, who did it? the song seem vaguely familiar and since i've only
> listened to about three times the lyrics are coming way too easy to me. i
> looked at the liner notes and it says s. earle wrote it. didn't know who
> that was. can anyone help?

s. earle is steve earle, a country/rock singer-songwriter from texas.
his most famous album was guitar town, from which colvin took the song
someday.   more recently (after a long break and a spell in jail for drug
rehab) he has made an album called train a-coming (in fact that was out
last summer).   i've never heard his music so i can't tell you what it's
like, but i hear train a-coming is quite folky, if not a completely solo
acoustic effort.

mat

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subject:      love's recovery

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subject: love's recovery

"oh how i wish i were a trinity so if i lost a part of me, i'd still have two
of the same to give."

pretty much says it all.....

i have sung this song over and over.....i do agree with someone's earlier
post about it being a bit ironic.  it is a song with tao messages.  loss and
gain...comfort and pain.  this song has it all.


take care............pooh

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hi folks,

some time ago someone was going to set up a www site which would have silly ig
pictures on it (phil?). well i remembered to bring the photos with me when i
left england but i've forgotten who i was supposed to send them to. could the
relevant person e-mail me please.

take care
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subject:      carmelita malbletto's guide to etiquette

carmalita malbletto says....

opon encountering the famous person in their natural habitat
is is permitted to quietly make a mental note of said celebrity
then gush to friends at a later date (they will understand and forgive you).

never stare, point at or rush the celebrity, it's not dignified, and it's
creepy.

if the celebrity is leaving the event early, it is safe to assume that they
are doing so to avoid people like you.

never try to make clever small talk with the celebrity, it's rarely clever.

never stalk the celebrity, it's illegal....and very creepy.

try to imagine that you, gentle reader, are a celebrity...you are at
the laudromat and, as is usually the case, you are wearing the only
clean clothes you own... a stained pair of pink sweat pants and a
bon jovi t-shirt (2 sizes too small). you are aproached by several
strangers who ask " are you > insert name here<?". and you know
that they are going to tell apx. 157 people "i saw >insert name here<
today, and they looked like @#*! "
not a pretty picture is it?
so please remember, respect your elders, use crosswalks,
and try to stay inside the lines while coloring !
adieu!
c. malbletto

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on wed, 6 mar 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

'morning all,

> into words. all i can say is, "mrph, blah, umph, oooh, umm, *sigh*"

oooh, eloquent as usual i see! *smirk* *run run run* :)

> i know _i_ haven't filled out this version of the survey yet, and my favorite
> song is usually an amy song. (depends on the day). but i don't think my one
> teensy little vote will change anything. so umm...i dunno.

actually i have tallied up 60 or so more results since i posted the other
day (it's been a slow week at work :), and there are now *two* amy-type
songs in the top 10.  here's the new listing:
        1. ghost - 128
        2. closer to fine - 116
        3. galileo - 107
        4. power of two - 98
        5. least complicated - 87
        6. the wood song - 57
        7. mystery, romeo and juliet - 56
        9. watershed - 55
        10. strange fire - 53

so anyway, come by and fill out the survey, folks. :)

> oh, here's a thought that's bound to get me into trouble: people are equally
> divided between amy fans and emily fans, but maybe emily fans like emily's
> _music_ whereas amy fans just like _amy_. *ducking and running*

actually i think that isn't too far from the truth.  while emily writes
a song like, say, "mystery" that has everyone glooping into little gooey
piles at her feet (you know, like, melting into little puddles of gloopy
goo :), amy can sing a song like, say, "land of canaan" in such a way that
has everyone swooning into little puddles of hormone... that is, it's
more to do with the performance and the passion.

if that made any sense :)

running hot on a cup of coffee and the thought of curry for lunch... :)
-sherlyn

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subject:      kid fears

reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at emory.

anyway, kid fears has always been a very special song to me.  it was during my sophomore year of college that the song's lyrics "what would you give kid fears?" rang in my head.  it was also this year that i saw the ig for the first time, touring with the ellen james society.  looking back i can see how pivotal a year it was in my life.

that year i was an resident advisor.  during that year, one of my residents attempted suicide twice, and i broke up with my (last) boyfriend.  the first night i talked my resident out of killing herself, she was sitting on the ledge of the window in my room, that was on the 7th floor, saying, "you know, i could just fall out this window and it wouldn't even matter."  life just did not seem simple anymore.  one morning during that year, i woke up to find that my resident had slit her wrists the night before (thankfully, she cut them in the wrong direction).

that year i was also introduced to philosophy.  my prof asked, "what are you willing to die for."  i replied, "nothing.  i just witnessed someone trying to kill herself, and life is too precious to even contemplate giving it up."  now i realize what my prof was asking, but then i could not even comprehend the reason behind why he would ask that question to a room full of young life.

everything in my life seemed to break up into little pieces and nothing made sense.  i was wishing that all i still had to face were my "kid fears."

thanks for letting me share this.
alycia

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on thu, 7 mar 1996, deb wrote:

> on wed, 6 mar 1996, jess wrote:
>
> >      in a recent post, someone wrote to the effect that most of the
> > list members fell in love with the ig during their release of swamp
> > ophelia and the survey backs this.  i was wondering if anyone here
> > "met" the ig during an earlier album, such as their self-titled, or rop.
>
> the video for "closer to fine" was my first exposure, and i bought the
> album the next week.  saw them live at the birchmere a few weeks later.
> and they haven't let me down since.
>

i heard closer to fine back in 89 or 90.  was familiar with the second
album, then friends and i saw them at the tower theatre in philadelphia,
may 1990.  every song was a show stopper, and i especially remember emily
introducing a brand new song just written, called "southland in the
springtime".  :)

i saw them in summer, 1991 at the mann music center in philadelphia.
they had the full band, they were really great!  4th row seats.  although
watershed was a little disappointing . . .

so i've been a fan for about 6 or 7 years now.

i actually have swamp ophelia on tape, i've only listened to it once or
twice, it really left me cold.

love n kisses, the philly kid

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subject:      re: converting to igism
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on thu, 7 mar 1996, jennifer hall wrote:

> that's great seffy.  it's great to be able to share a hobby
> with...well...anybody for that matter.  even better if it's also your
> lover!!!
>
> my husband and i both play guitar but we both have such different tastes in
> music. i'm more non-mainstream liking ig and a british band from the 70's
> called 'renaissance' (have you heard of them?).

i have!  saw them in concert in 1983, at the academy of music in
philadelphia.  i have on vinyl -- scheherazade, song for all seasons,
live at carnegie hall.  annie haslam has a wonderful voice.


sorry to jump in on your conversation!  but i saw the renaissance
reference and couldn't resist.

did you ever listen to fairport convention (sandy denny on vocals)?

love n kisses, the philly kid

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on fri, 8 mar 1996, jagged little piq wrote:

>
> actually i have tallied up 60 or so more results since i posted the other
> day (it's been a slow week at work :), and there are now *two* amy-type
> songs in the top 10.  here's the new listing:
>         1. ghost - 128
>         2. closer to fine - 116
>         3. galileo - 107
>         4. power of two - 98
>         5. least complicated - 87
>         6. the wood song - 57
>         7. mystery, romeo and juliet - 56
>         9. watershed - 55
>         10. strange fire - 53
>
> so anyway, come by and fill out the survey, folks. :)
>

um, i just signed on to the list, so is the survey the top ten fav ig tunes?

philly kid

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subject:      re: kid fears

in a message dated 96-03-07 20:13:12 est, alycia writes:

>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>emory.

yikes !!!
when i was in the 8th grade amy n' emily were 5 years old.

(name withheld)

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hmmmm, alycia, you got me thinkin'.....

i had always looked at kf a little differently.  it's sorta hard to put
into words...kinda like your kid fears were terrors that you later found
out weren't so bad, and even later found out that they were worse than
you imagined.  i guess i saw "what would you give for your kid fears?" as
an ironic question, but now i think that it was my own cynicism that read
that message into the lyrics.  my kid fears were never simple, i guess,
and they did turn out to be worse than i thought....your interpretation
is more clear than mine.

i was a very existential kid; i never had faith that my parents would be
able to keep the bad outside world from hurting me, and i never really
put my trust in them as a child (at the age when a child's parents_is_
her world).  as a young adolescent, i thought back and revised my
history: no, it wasn't as scary as i remember it, etc.  but as time
passed i grew to recognize that indeed, i have replaced my inconsolable
fears (more or less) with ones that are easier to handle.  so, no, i
wouldn't give anything for my kid fears.  but i'm no longer convinced
that that was amy's point in writing the song.

hmmmmm...it's going to be an interesting evening.

any thoughts?
--gwen

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date:         thu, 7 mar 1996 20:29:01 cst
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          yep--saw that.  weird huh?  i wonder when she first noticed
          that.  what was that dancing stuff she was doing?...i don't
          remember her being that loopy.

          towanda

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hey everyone- i was wondering if anyone in the new orleans area could
tell me of some rockin' shows that are happenin' march 17-23. this is my spring
break & i'd like to catch some good shows. thanks a lot! love,katie
><}}}">

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   >*smile*...we can sulk together...;)
   >em
   >you wrote:
   >>
   >>but what about those of us who don't really have a preference????
   >>"swirl."
   >>
   >>   >*grrrr*..well, i'm not going to new orleans...so i don't have to
   >worry about it for a while right????
   >>i don't get to go either <sulking>.  but, i thought if nothing else,
   >i'd put my $.02 in about identification.
   >>rustyr

i think i now have the ultimate "you know you're an indigo girls fan
when. . ."  i was in a car wreck four years ago that resulted in lots of
problems with my neck and back.  for most of those four years, i've had
to lie flat.  i'm physically better (finally), but i'm stressing over
the lawsuit i had to file to make the other driver pay the medical bills
and reimburse me for losing my job for several years.  the upshot is i'm
stressed, up to my ass in lawyers and doctors, and taking about six
different kinds of painkillers, anti-depressants, anti-inflammatories,
etc.  what i really want is to settle this lawsuit soon.  not just that
it'll help me get on with my life, but if i can settle before may, i'll
have the money to go see indigo girls then!
rustyr

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   >discovered the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and
   >emily were still at emory.
just gotta show my age here.  when i was in 8th grade, so were amy and
emily.
rustyr

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the wood song is on here?!?!?!?

on thu, 7 mar 1996, victoria mazzone wrote:

> on fri, 8 mar 1996, jagged little piq wrote:
>
> >
> > actually i have tallied up 60 or so more results since i posted the other
> > day (it's been a slow week at work :), and there are now *two* amy-type
> > songs in the top 10.  here's the new listing:
> >         1. ghost - 128
> >         2. closer to fine - 116
> >         3. galileo - 107
> >         4. power of two - 98
> >         5. least complicated - 87
> >         6. the wood song - 57
> >         7. mystery, romeo and juliet - 56
> >         9. watershed - 55
> >         10. strange fire - 53
> >
> > so anyway, come by and fill out the survey, folks. :)
> >
>
> um, i just signed on to the list, so is the survey the top ten fav ig tunes?
>
> philly kid
>
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man, i just had the *weirdest* nightmare about kd lang's nose....

;)
rick
with velocity i'm going....................

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subject:      re: kid fears

gwen keyt wrote:
>i had always looked at kf a little differently.  it's sorta hard to put
>into words...kinda like your kid fears were terrors that you later found
>out weren't so bad, and even later found out that they were worse than
>you imagined.  i guess i saw "what would you give for your kid fears?" as
>an ironic question

hmmmm, i always kinda saw it in the same way.  it's really hard to explain
in words, but for some reason i always took the song to be running away from
kid fears.  like, what would you give to have your kid fears taken away
forever, if that makes any sense. because, in a weird way, kid fears can be
more powerful and overwhelming than anything faced as adults.  at least i've
always thought so, but maybe i've had very un-scary late adolecence/early
adulthood (not officially an adult yet!) or maybe just a real scary
childhood.  but my view of the song has now totally changed.  cause i think
that the interpretation "what would you give to have kid fears back" makes
an awful lot of sense.  but it never occured to me until we started talking
about it.  and i've been hearing the song for what, 5 years now??  wow, you
just gotta love music that can have so many meanings that 5 years after
hearing a song for the first time you realize one day that it could have a
completely differnt meaning, you just have to, no arguing allowed :)  not
that i'd expect any from this bunch.  enough deep thinking for one post,
back to auto-pilot......

peace,
cylinda

, but now i think that it was my own cynicism that read
>that message into the lyrics.  my kid fears were never simple, i guess,
>and they did turn out to be worse than i thought....your interpretation
>is more clear than mine.
>
>i was a very existential kid; i never had faith that my parents would be
>able to keep the bad outside world from hurting me, and i never really
>put my trust in them as a child (at the age when a child's parents_is_
>her world).  as a young adolescent, i thought back and revised my
>history: no, it wasn't as scary as i remember it, etc.  but as time
>passed i grew to recognize that indeed, i have replaced my inconsolable
>fears (more or less) with ones that are easier to handle.  so, no, i
>wouldn't give anything for my kid fears.  but i'm no longer convinced
>that that was amy's point in writing the song.
>
>hmmmmm...it's going to be an interesting evening.
>
>any thoughts?
>--gwen
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subject:      kid fears..

ok, my turn...  i knd of thought that maybe kid fears were the worst
kind of fears, and that they only get worse... adult fears?  that maybe
somehow amy was saying that kid's fears are never really taken
seriously.  "of course, you're not ugly, little johnny.  you're just
different..."  that the fears that you have when you're a kid haunt you
forever.
-mandles

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cool...
        we're on a shawn colvin thread!!

        to all sc fans:  does anyone have a clue of what "kill the
messenger" is about.  it's my favorite song of hers, very powerful
lyrically and musically.  i've already discussed this with another list
member, and we'd like to know what everyone else thought.  has she said
anything of what it means to her in an interview or concert???

ccsbzzz,
teri

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subject:      more kid fears

hi there. the part about kid fears i've never understood is the part at
the end where they are singing "replace the ones that you love". why
would you want to replace the ones you love? don't you want to keep
them close to you??

ken

ps anyone else roadtripping to the kristen hall show this sat in atlanta?

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i have had a smiliar experience with my sig. other.  she and i were both
ig fans from the start, but she turned me on to some of the albums i
didn't have (so, for one) and then insisted that between the two of us we
have all the albums. so now we do...

also, she just asked me to teach her the guitasr, and while she isn't at
ig-level yet, she is loving the instrument and wants to keep going  with
it.  love be grand indeed, rachel.

--mike

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i never thought i would relate to lr, but here i am saying i do...

i never really thought i'd be able to love someone after my foiled
relationships with someone who broke it off when we were in central
america...yet i'm about to mark one year with a wonderful woman who
encouraged me, even before we were together, to let my ability to love
recover.  and we did indeed sit inside a cold house on a rainy day and
drink a toast to love's recovery.

here we are in the dead of winter in davis (ca) and the rain keeps
falling...and i wake up to feel safe in the arms of love's recovery.  her
name, btw, is chelsea...you might say it's a chelsea morning i wake up in.

just me baring my soul.

--mike

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subject:      re: kid fears

in a message dated 96-03-07 20:14:25 est, anb038@nwu.edu (alycia) writes:

>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>emory.
>
hey, don't feel bad - when i was in 8th grade, amy & emily were probably in
5th or 6th!!!
lol!!   but really, i'm very young at heart.....;)

-connie

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in a message dated 96-03-07 20:49:50 est, mmedido@aol.com (claire johnson)
writes:

>>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>>emory.
>
>yikes !!!
>when i was in the 8th grade amy n' emily were 5 years old.
>
>(name withheld)
>
thanks, claire! ;) ;)  now i don't feel so bad.....!

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hey i kind of do the same thing using the lines, except i mostly use them for toasts,
last night was "the less i seek my..." which usually stuns everyone at first but then
hits the spot.

does anyone else also write lyrics on things like table napkins for whoever might
sit there next to read ?

friday afternoon ( hurray ), full of lunch & vino and don't feel like doing any work.
amit
---------------------
i am new to this list, but have loved every message.  for some reason,
this song (baf) moves me every time i hear it.  i have often used lines
from the song when conversing with friends, for they seem to be "just
right" for the situation.  i am looking for someone who will take as much
as i give, give back as much as i need, and still have the will to live.
amen.

thank you,
jule

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              mar 7, 96 8:59 pm

>
> man, i just had the *weirdest* nightmare about kd lang's nose....
>
> ;)


did you know amy ray can stretch her ears such that they can touch
behind her head? ;)  i always did like the girls better than kd....

                        -- chris

p.s. yes, i am just kidding.

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on  8 mar 96 at 7:11, amit gandhi wrote:
> does anyone else also write lyrics on things like table napkins for whoever might
> sit there next to read ?

hmmm.. never done this, but i used to live in st. paul mn. in a cheap
apartment with a large bay window that faced north. during the winter
ice would form on the incisde of this window... lots of ice...
sooo... during the winter i took to etching poetry into the ice. i
would etch it in backwards so that it would be readable from the
street. always original poetry and i never wrote the poems down in a
permanent medium. when the ice on the window melted, the poem would
be gone forever, then new ice would form and a new poem would be
born.


peace

dan perkins
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from:         "amy \"iggy\" vorpagel" <99vorpag@lab.cc.wmich.edu>
subject:      re: indigo girls screen saver.
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on thu, 7 mar 1996, andrew white wrote:

>      hello!
>
>         has any one seen the commercial screen saver they released ?  is it
>      any good and where can i get a copy ?
>

i got a copy at sam goody (a generic cd store). still looking for a pc to
put it on. i've got a mac myself. i saw it and grabbed it without
thinking. mayhaps i'll put it on one of the computers here at work and
see how it works and get back to you...

peace,
amy

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sorry for the double post, but the screen saver i got was on a disk and
cost around $2. and it has several options... playing the touch me fall
video, playing a game matching pieces of the video and just a generic
screen saver that jumps around the screen.

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hi folks,

  i was just checking out musical and some ariststs have listed
appearances at the nff.  peter rowan, the nashville bluegrass band,
and ani difranco (*bounce*) are scheduled to play aug 10.

  of course ig are to play, i assume that will be sunday.

  i can't wait til august!!!!!!

                                -- chris


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subject:      how i "met" ig

okay... since there seems to be a " how i met the ig  " thread happening
here, i'll give a try at adding my own story. ( all feel free to sleep, now... )
ummm, years back ( maybe ten... maybe less ) i happened to catch a mini
showcase that was being done with them on some obscure talk show... i think
it was terry david mulligan in vancouver ( anyone know of him?... what the
show might have been? ) anyhow... i was enthralled both with the bits of
their music i heard and with a + e as the people they came across as....
their songs "spoke to my heart". i thought right then that i had to get some
of their stuff. of course, life can get crazy + mine did... and i forgot...
then... a couple of years back, i was watching david letterman + the igs
were on ...( anyone remember that show? he pulled some guy and the girl he'd
brought to ny with him out of the audience... she was a big ig fan + they
were in ny for the ig concert.... david letterman had them sit on the stage
+ watch.... then they got to meet a+e?.. talk about an incredible experience
for her, who ever she was .) anyway, when  the igs came on stage i went
"that's them!!!!" the next day i bought the only two ig  cds i could find in
fort st. james,  the small northern town i was living in ( so + botby'a)
...i took them home and played them... and knew i'd done the right thing for
me. this is definately my kind of music.... took me till i was thirty two
years old.. .so those of you who are saying you feel old when you read abt
ones discovering ig when they were in grade eight, i'm right there with
you... but hey... at least we found em.
and that's my whole (*yawn*) story... is anyone still awake??????
well... peace to all.
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subject:      center stage day

hi y'all
  i know some people mentioned cs as one of ig's not-as-divine songs, but
i find it really powerful. i never realized i liked it so much until i
started playing it on guitar.  it's really easy to play, and since it's
in a nonstandard tuning, the sound is really full.  i also love the way
they have those nursery rhymes running through the song.  and the part at
the end where it all builds up to "the higher the leap   i say the harder
the ground!"---  i find that powerful. anyway, there's my .02...
  -julie

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date:         fri, 8 mar 1996 11:02:02 -0600
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subject:      a day late, and a dollar short

i get to kill two birds with one stone here (i am cliche-man) becuase
this has to do with the "how i met the ig" and the "song of the day"
(well, yesterday) threads.  i don't get online every day, so i missed the
love's recovery day, i think, but here goes.

it was the summer after my senior year of high school, and my best
friend (the one who introduced me to the ig - romeo and juliet) was
learning guitar.  somehow, despite the fact that i had never touched a
guitar, and he had just started learning, we decided to learn a couple
songs to play for our closest friends as a kind of "we have spent these
years together, and we love you a whole bunch, but we can't just go and
tell you that, so we will sing you a song" kind of thing.  well, after
perusing his small collection of music, we settled on, well, the ones we
thought we could play, which ended up being wonderful tonight (eric
clapton) and love's recovery (ig, of course).  our decision was based on
the fact that neither of us could play an f chord.

so we sat up late on my porch for a few nights practicing a couple times,
and we thought we had a week left, but then one morning, i got a frantic
call at 8:00 from my friend.  turns out that one of the people we were
going to sing for was leaving early with her parents to visit family, and
we would not see her before we left.  we called everyone and told them to
meet at a local park because we had a surprise, and we ended up deciding
to play wonderful tonight and not love's recovery, even though it was the
morning.

well, i was so turned on the the ig that i decided to take up guitar, and
i bought a cheapo thing that you can't play bar chords on because the
strings are too far away from the frets, unless you capo at the third.  i
finally learned love's recovery!

the main point i wanted to bring out here is that my absolute favorite
part musically of any ig song is the chord in the bridge of love's
recovery when they are singing:

"not content to bow and bend, to the -->winds<-- of culture...."

listen to it.

this was really long.  sorry if you actually read all the way through

steve

ps.  well, _i_ was only 5 years old when the indigo girls were...oh,
wait.  i don't even know how old the ig are.

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subject:      re: center stage day

okay you guys...
i've been waiting for this one. i've heard that it has some
connection with the music biz in l.a.. but i just can't figure
it out ! is it an insider thing ????
i'm expecting some dissertations on this one sooo....
get to work, you !!
peace man !
claire
>i'm not working, i'm watching t.veeeee !!!<
(to be sung to the theme from the i love lucy show)

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subject:      cd's and women's day

me again,

i've been working away today to the coolness of sarah mclachlan's fumbling
towards ectasy cd which i bought yesterday in a fit of extravagance.
veryveryvery nice indeed - features jerry marotta and jane scarpantoni on a
couple of tracks.  i've just noticed on the liner that there's an extra
track - her version of joni mitchell's blue that i'm listening to as i type
- that isn't available on the us release.  shame, 'cos it's smashing!

what else... jane siberry - summer in the yukon  -  absolutely mindblowing -
i think it's a kind of greatest hits compilation.  haven't heard any other
albums by her though.  also, joan osborne - relish, and jonatha brooke and
the story - plumb, are worth a listen i reckon.  my gf just bought skunk
anansie yesterday - hmmm - i haven't heard much of it yet, but it sounds scary!

on a differerent note, since we seem to be such a worldwide iggy family,
then happy international women's day everybody!   (can i wish that to the
guys reading this? - i don't know!)

the duo i play in is making our debut tonight at a little women's bar in
brighton called the blue moon.  we've failed miserably to come up with a
decent band name - our standby one that i guess we're gonna have to use is
'big breaths'  - kind of in-keeping with women's day to be celebrating our
mammaries i s'pose - it's a pc sort of do... anway, never mind ectasy, i'll
be fumbling towards emily's thin line solo!  wish me luck folks!

have a great weekend everybody,
*************
seffy
    cod==#
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subject:      re: kid fears

in a message dated 96-03-07 20:13:12 est,(alycia) writes:

>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>emory.

oh my ! i just refigured the math and i think that a&e would have been
3 & 4 years old when i was in the 8th grade!! *eep* i could have been
their babysitter ! (and a darned good one too!):)
("now girls, you need to finish your vegetables
before you play your guitars ! and stay away
from those kids on dead man's hill, they're no good !")

( name withheld )

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subject:      cd recommend (nigc)

howdy all,

the other day someone requested some recommendations for new cds..
i can't recall who.. anyhow.. i have a couple of folks i would
recommend.

these are lesser known artists, but worth checking out.

jimmy lafave.. singer/songwriter from austin, tx.. has a few cds out
                           the ones i would recommend are austin
                            skyline and buffalo return to the plains
                            jimmy is kinda along the lines of dylan,
                            but different...

trout fising in america.. a duo originally based out of houston, tx
                                           now out of arkansas.. very
                                            funny and entertaining..
                                            great bassist.


peace

dan perkins
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date:         fri, 8 mar 1996 18:41:40 +0100
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subject:      iko iko

on wed, 6 march tritessa  wrote:
does anyone else remember a version of "iko iko" (pardon my spelling)
that ig did for the movie cocktail? it isn't on the cocktail soundtrack
so i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get hold of a copy. also,=

which album is uncle john's band on?

as far as i know iko iko wasn't by ig, but by amazulu.
btw uncle john's band is on deadicated. a tribute cd for greatful dead.

christel

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are you sure that ig are playing?  i heard that they might not be..... :(
-mandy

on fri, 8 mar 1996, christopher m. becker wrote:

> hi folks,
>
>   i was just checking out musical and some ariststs have listed
> appearances at the nff.  peter rowan, the nashville bluegrass band,
> and ani difranco (*bounce*) are scheduled to play aug 10.
>
>   of course ig are to play, i assume that will be sunday.
>
>   i can't wait til august!!!!!!
>
>                                 -- chris
>
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from:         "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      some kid fears, some rambling...

hi all, pardon me please if this message gets wonky, i'v been awake for far
too long to be responsible for my trains of thought -- if i have any
left...anywya, the kid fears conversations have been very interesting for
me, because i had what can only be called an idyllic childhood - stable
family, parents who openly loved me, spent time with me, were proud of the
littlest things...i was happy, i played outside in the sun all day long and
my mind and body were nurtured in the woods around my house, i don't think
i could wish for a better childhood.  the idea that giving up kid fears is
the point of the song if the fears of a late teenager can be considered
'kid fears' -- fears about acceptance, fears about who i was and who i
wanted to be and what the hell was i going to do if who i was wasn't the
same as who i wanted to be??? that kind of thing.  it all worked out
though, and i don't really have any fears that i'm aware of...i guess that
comes from my belief that, ultimately, people are good and will do the best
they can to get things right.  i don't really need to go back to my kid
fears (or lack thereof), and i don't need to have them taken away.  i
firmly believe that all of my fears just made me stronger, especially once
i knew i could conquer them -- maybe that's what i get out of it, my fears
now are worth more to me than anything else, they've made me who i am.
what would i give to have had them?  anything.

january simpson
"don't sacrifice your self, you're all you've got."
                - janice joplin

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hey all, happy friday.  it's blizzarding here in ny, in march.  whatever.
but today is international women's day, and last night here at sarah
lawrence college we had an invocation type thing at midnight.  a group of
beautiful and strong women sat in a circle, reading poetry, singing songs,
and sharing experiences.  but, what the point in relation to all of you is,
that the first song sung was done by this woman with a beautifully soft but
powerful voice, kind of like a mix between amy and emily.  and she opened
the meeting of spirits with her acapella version of "virginia woolf."  it
was so perfect and beautiful, and it really got everyone thinking about why
we were all there.  i was so proud of a and e, and of all of us.  just
wanted to share.
erica

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i think the neville bros. also did a version of iko iko.

--mike

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subject:      re: iko iko (nigc i think)

the earliest "popular" version of iko iko was recorded by the dixie cups
(i think in the 50's).  there was an earlier recording by some southern
musician but was not widely distributed. =20

it's a traditional mardi gras song based on chants between mardi gras
"tribes."  who did the version on rain main?  it doesn't sound like
anything the ig would have done; or have they?

peace-
ron

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>sent:  friday, march 08, 1996 11:07 am
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>i think the neville bros. also did a version of iko iko.
>
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subject:      re: converting to igism

sorry but references to renaissance and sandy denny in the same maily i
couldn't resist !  "song for all seasons" - flowing, orchestral, the
whole album is like one movement, listen to while on motorway slowly driving home
on hot summer nights.

sandy denny. phew !  one of her songs "who knows where the time goes"
is possibly the most melancholy song ever. she was also in a rock/folk supergroup
called fotheringay who only put out one album, you will not regret getting it.
she tragically died after ( i think ) a fall then coma, she is one of the giants
of the english folk scene.

nigc !
amit
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> music. i'm more non-mainstream liking ig and a british band from the 70's
> called 'renaissance' (have you heard of them?).

i have!  saw them in concert in 1983, at the academy of music in
philadelphia.  i have on vinyl -- scheherazade, song for all seasons,
live at carnegie hall.  annie haslam has a wonderful voice.


sorry to jump in on your conversation!  but i saw the renaissance
reference and couldn't resist.

did you ever listen to fairport convention (sandy denny on vocals)?

love n kisses, the philly kid

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on fri, 8 mar 1996, dan perkins wrote:

> on  8 mar 96 at 7:11, amit gandhi wrote:
> > does anyone else also write lyrics on things like table napkins for whoever might
> > sit there next to read ?
>
> hmmm.. never done this, but i used to live in st. paul mn. in a cheap
> apartment with a large bay window that faced north. during the winter
> ice would form on the incisde of this window... lots of ice...
> sooo... during the winter i took to etching poetry into the ice. i
> would etch it in backwards so that it would be readable from the
> street. always original poetry and i never wrote the poems down in a
> permanent medium. when the ice on the window melted, the poem would
> be gone forever, then new ice would form and a new poem would be
> born.

well well ... in years to come then, if someone publishes a collection of
poetry "collected from a window in st. paul, minnesota" then we'll all
know who to blame^h^h^h^hthank ...

mat

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> it's a traditional mardi gras song based on chants between mardi gras
> "tribes."  who did the version on rain main?  it doesn't sound like

i believe it was the belle stars. could be mightily wrong though...

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okay...

i haven't been on the list for days (spring break), so i don't know if
anyone else responded on the subject, but here it goes...

usually, bootlegs are made outside of the u.s. by people who sometimes
don't speak english very well.  they don't have permission from the
bands, and are unfamiliar with the bands, so they have no idea what
material is what.  they just go aroung buying/stealing illegal soundboard
tapes, and massively producing them and illegally shipping them to small
record stores gutsy enough to sell them.  see, i'm not suggesting this,
but if you were to go into a record store and steal bootlegs, there
really is nothing the store owner could do, because the boots are
illegal anyway.  record stores can be fined, or even closed down for
selling such things.  that also explains the extremely high prices.
that's also why so many come out of italy and germany, because there
aren't as many copywriting laws there.
my friend manages a record store, and when the lead singer of a band
called "tool" came in while they were in town, he was flipping through
the bins, and found two foriegn boots of his band playing.  he cussed out
the manager, and took them from the store.  there was nothing my friend
could do.  so, that's the long and short of why bootlegs are often
mislabeled.  hope that helps.

love,
aim

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subject:      fw: those were the days (fwd)

normally i wouldn't send something this long to a list, but for some
reason this struck me as something the ig list would appreciate.  delete
now if you're a spoil-sport!  :)

(forwards said "tap tap place back!")

be a kid again...

-give yourself a gold star for everything you do today.
-dot all your "i"'s with smiley faces
-sing into your hairbrush
-grow a milk mustache
-smile back at the man in the moon
-read the funnies throw the rest of the paper away
-dunk your cookies
-ask somebody if their refrigerator is running
-play a game where you make up the rules as you go along
-order with eyes that are bigger than your stomach
-open a pack of cupcakes and give one to a friend even though you wanted
   both of them for yourself
-pretend your bread rolls are tap dancing
-step carefully over sidewalk cracks
-change into some play clothes
-try to get someone to trade you a better sandwich
-have a staring contest with your cat
-eat ice cream for breakfast
-kiss a frog just in case
-give someone a "hug-around-the-neck"
-blow the wrapper off a straw
-refuse to eat crusts
-make a face the next time somebody tells you "no"
-watch tv in your pajamas
-ask "why? a lot
-make graham-cracker-and-frosting sandwiches
-believe in fairy tales
-have someone read you a story
-eat dessert first
-wear your favorite shirt with your favorite pants even if they don't
   match
-sneak some frosting off a cake
-refuse to back down in a "did vs. did-not argument"
-do a cartwheel
-get someone to buy you something you don't really need
-hide your vegetables under your napkin
-stay up past your bedtime
-whatever you're doing, stop once in a while for recess
-wear red gym shoes
-make a "slurpy" sound with your straw when you get to the bottom of a
   milkshake
-sit really still for as long as the dog is asleep in your lap
-put way too much sugar on your cereal
-play a song you like really loud, over and over
-find some pretty stones and save them
-let the string all the way out on your kite
-stick your head out the car window and moo if you see a cow
-walk barefoot in wet grass
-giggle at nude statues in a museum
-make cool screeching noises every time you turn a corner
-count the colors in a rainbow
-fuss a little, then take a nap
-take a running jump over a big puddle
-eat dinner at the coffee table
-giggle a lot for no real reason
-make a clover chain for someone you really "like-like"
-stir ice-cream flavors together
-do that -tap-someone-on-the-shoulder-while-you-stand-on-their-opposite-
   side-and-they-turn-around-and-no-one's-there thing
-enjoy your all-time favorite candy-bar (forget you've heard of calories!)
-wear a ball cap backwards
-go to the zoo
-say "duh" when stuff is obvious
-throw something and when it lands make a cool exploding bomb noise
-put an orange slice in your mouth, peel side out, and smile at people
-try to eat all the chocolate off a peanut butter cup
-every time someone says "see you later" say "not if i see you first" or
   "thanks for the warning" then laugh real hard
-whistle the theme from your favorite tv show all day
-help your salt-and-pepper shakers talk to each other in high, squeaky
    voices
-remember to say your prayers
-squish some mud between your toes
-stay up late watching scary movies
-buy yourself a helium balloon
-ride a roller coaster two times in a row
-sing the "i see london, i see france" song to someone wearing low-slung
    pants
-eat peanut butter straight out of the jar
-when your gum starts losing its flavor, spit it out and get a new piece
-write your sweetie's initials in a chalk heart on the sidewalk
-wave to the engineer
-make a smiley face with your bacon and eggs
-run through the sprinkler with all your clothes on
-lick all the ice cream out of an ice cream sandwich before you eat the
    sandwich part
-look down as you walk and hope to find money
-catch lightning bugs in a jar and make a lantern
-practice whistling through your teeth
-eat cereal any ol' time of the day you feel like it
-yell out "opposite day!" then tell someone they're really smart
-wear a bubble gum machine ring
-watch a lot of tv and don't feel guilty about it
-skip a stone across a pond
-make somebody laugh just when they start to drink something
-eat just the chocolate stripe out of your neapolitan ice cream
-ask to be excused
-chew bubble gum
-spin the stem of an apple to see what letter it comes out on
-start thinking now about what you want for your next birthday
-sing to yourself all day
-talk to your invisible friend
-play with your younger siblings toys
-stick your hand in the fish bowl, try to catch one...
-draw a gang of "stick-figure" persons, and call it your family!!!
-color in your favorite coloring book with your really cool box of 144
   crayons with the neato crayon sharpener
-finger-paint and make a really big mess
-buy pajamas with feet
-get the giggles and laugh until it hurts
-ask someone if they like "see-food"
-when it rains, take off your shoes and squish your toes in the mud
-put an orange peel in your mouth and smile that rediculous orange peel
   smile
-ask for a ring or a sticker at the dentist.
-give someone bunny ears when they're not looking.
-eat some jello, then sqwoosh it around in your mouth until it's liquid.
-blow bubbles in your milk.
-ask for a lollipop when your go through the drive thru window at the bank.
-try to dig all the way to china in your back yard.
-play dress up in your mom's old clothes.
-sleep with your teddy bear
-make a tent out of blankets and chairs in your living room (or if you're
   in college and don't have a living room make a cave out of your
   bunkbeds :)
-say no to something even though you want it, just because you feel like
being stubborn
-always take time to color outside of the lines
-pray "now i lay me down to sleep"
-say "i love you" at least once a day
-go puddle-jumping
-say exactly what you mean
-always remember that boys have cooties
-look straight up at the stars and spin around until you fall down
-end an arguement with "my dad will beat up your dad"
-get up really early in order to watch your favorite cartoon shows
-drink chocolate milk for breakfast
-play four square and try not ot get "out" before gettin gto the server's
square.
-make a wish on the first star you see tonight.
-keep a balloon from hitting the ground.
-watch sesame street

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someone please answer or help.

is there any way that on their next tour, the indigo girls can be
convinced to openly allow recording of their performances?  is there
someone here that is close to them and can convince them of this?  i
realize some people have said amy and emily aren't bothered by it but
that is a far cry from having a tapers section and telling security not
to confiscate thousands of dollars of equipment.

the grateful dead has done it for years but there seems to be a whole
slew of bands that allow it.  i hate to see the money go to the cd
manufacturers and for us to have to break the law by buying these.

hoping for a miracle-

ron

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>from:  cardigan[smtp:benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu]
>sent:  friday, march 08, 1996 12:28 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       re: avalon
>
>okay...
>
>i haven't been on the list for days (spring break), so i don't know if
>anyone else responded on the subject, but here it goes...
>
>usually, bootlegs are made outside of the u.s. by people who sometimes
>don't speak english very well.  they don't have permission from the
>bands, and are unfamiliar with the bands, so they have no idea what
>material is what.  they just go aroung buying/stealing illegal
>soundboard
>tapes, and massively producing them and illegally shipping them to
>small
>record stores gutsy enough to sell them.  see, i'm not suggesting this,
>but if you were to go into a record store and steal bootlegs, there
>really is nothing the store owner could do, because the boots are
>illegal anyway.  record stores can be fined, or even closed down for
>selling such things.  that also explains the extremely high prices.
>that's also why so many come out of italy and germany, because there
>aren't as many copywriting laws there.
>my friend manages a record store, and when the lead singer of a band
>called "tool" came in while they were in town, he was flipping through
>the bins, and found two foriegn boots of his band playing.  he cussed
>out
>the manager, and took them from the store.  there was nothing my friend
>could do.  so, that's the long and short of why bootlegs are often
>mislabeled.  hope that helps.
>
>love,
>aim
>
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hey... i forgot. it's international women's day today. have a good one, all!!!
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i'll just add 1.5 or so cents here.

i couldn't and wouldn't give anything for my "kid fears."  they are the
first and most fundamental fears that i dealt with.  ironically, i still
have to deal with some of them.  i think of some of the things that i was
scared of as a kid, and i have to laugh.  i can't remember how many years
that i had to look in my closet before i went to bed to make sure there
were no monsters in there.  one of the most important aspect of "little
kid fears" such as this one, is the fact that once they are conquered
(up, there are no monsters in my closet), they are funny, a silly
comfort. not all fears are bad.    others are deeper and live longer. i
have always liked the line  "are you on fire, from the years.  what
would you give for your kid fears?"  to fear rejection, to fear being
laughed at, to fear yourself...  all fears that start in childhood, and
for some of us, never really go away, and never really get conquered.
it's just that when we get older, we loose our "secret staircase," our
hiding place.
thanks for reading my rambling.

-heather

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hey folks,

i found this top ten of '95 list on the folk_music mailing list, and since
the ig's 1200c was on the list as one of the best live albums, i think we
can trust david's judgement. to his list i'll add:

dar williams, mortal city - just released, and *excellent* from beginning
to end!

greg brown, the live one - rich, deep voice, great guitar, great
songwriting.

onward ho...

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date: mon, 18 dec 1995 08:04:33 -0500
from: dgrant@eden.com (david grant)
to: folk_music@nysernet.org
subject: yet another top 10 of 1995
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sender: dgrant@eden.com (david grant)
subject: yet another top 10 of 1995

howdy y'all.

i guess i'll jump on this bandwagon and give you my top 10 new cds of 1995
(plus a few honorable mentions):

dar williams, the honesty room (2)
        i realize this one's kinda questionable as a 1995 release, but the
razor & tie version *is* a 1995 release...  without a doubt the finest cd
released this year.

shawn colvin, live '88
        ok, so it's a cd release of an older tape.  it's still fantastic.

david roth, nights at the chez
        yeah, yeah, another new cd release of an older tape.  but it was
entirely re-recorded for cd so it's technically brand new, even though all
the songs are the same.  absolutely perfect album.

david wilcox, east asheville hardware
        a live album the way live albums should be done -- it's all the
songs he does live but has never put on a studio album.  not one of these
songs is on his previous four cds.

indigo girls, 1200 curfews
        the other best live album of the year.  words cannot describe how
much i love this album.  the energy and excitement is unmatched by any of
their studio recordings.

cheryl wheeler, mrs. pinocci's guitar
        this is a woman who can do no wrong.  i didn't think she'd ever be
able to top her previous work, but somehow she managed to do just that.
the last track alone is worth the price of the cd.

susan werner, last of the good straight girls
        the voice!  i never fail to be amazed by this woman's singing
ability.  combine that with some really well-written songs and you've got
an album worth listening to repeatedly.

maura o'connell, stories
        ok, the main reason i like this one is because it has one of my
absolutely favorite unrecorded mary chapin carpenter songs on it, "wall
around your heart."  but the rest of the album is fantastic, too.  for a
non-songwriter, she really picks the material well.

james mcmurtry, where'd you hide the body
        i think this is his best work yet, which says a lot considering how
much i liked his other two albums.

shake russell and jack saunders, live at the duck
        yet another live album.  this cd really captures the essence of two
guys who are as texan as the come, plus it's a great compilation of their
greatest songs.  "traveling texas" will bring tears to any texan's eyes.


honorable mention goes to some older cds that i discovered this year:

fred small, i will stand fast (1988)
        this cd is so amazing that i can't even describe it.  i bought it
because i discovered that mary chapin carpenter provides harmony vocals for
one track, but then i found out that fred small is one of the most
sensitive, talented songwriters i've ever heard.  his song about gay
parents having their adopted children taken away is just about the most
heartbreaking song i've ever heard.

barbara kessler, stranger to this land (1994)
        i bought this based on the songs she has contributed to various
martha's vinyard singer-songwriter festivals cds, and i was blown away by
it.  there is a lot of similarity to shawn colvin in her voice, but her
style is very unique.

hugh blumenfeld, the strong in spirit (1988)
        i've known about hugh blumenfeld for a lot of years, but i had
never bought his first album (which was released on cd for the first time
in 1994).  i can't believe i've missed out on such an amazing collection of
songs for so long.  the emotions in these songs are so strong that you feel
them as vividly as anything you've experienced in your own life.

dougie maclean, cragie dhu (1983)
        i only really discovered dougie this year; i've had a couple of
tracks of his for a couple of years, but i didn't start buying his cds and
lps until early in 1995.  cragie dhu was his first album on his own label,
and it is simply splendid.  he represents the finest in scottish folk
music, and is among my top ten singer-songwriters in general.


and special honorable mentions:

three eps in 1995 which are among the most-played in my entire cd
collection -- nanci griffith, aaa radio live sampler;  mary chapin
carpenter, live at her majesty's theatre; and dar williams, the christians
and the pagans.

david


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boy oh boy...
sorry i have been posting like crazy, but i have over 300 messages, and i
just want to respond to them all.

now, for recommedations, i just want to let you know that i hardly ever
buy major label stuff, i'm more of an indie rocker.  so i will put the
artist, album titles, and label down so you can track them down easier.
i'm also willing to make mixed tapes for people who want to expand their
minds, and get a taste for some different music without having to shell
out fifteen bucks without listening first.  just email me and let me know...


#1.  "the jayhawks": i'm suprised i've never seen them mentioned here.
they are incredible folk, bluegrass type music, incredible harmonies,
etc.  their best album is "tomorrow the green grass", and their label is
"american"  **** out of ****

#2.  "eric matthews": one of the two members of an excellent band called
"cardinal", eric matthews is helping to redefine rock music.  using his
background in orchestration, he creates music that is moving and
interesting, and his voice and lyrics are phenomenal.  they play a single
here, called "fanfare", so you may have heard it without knowing it.  he
is on subpop, but is not your usual subpop sound.  **** out of ****

#3.  "ben lee":  this fifteen year old austalian prodigy comes to us off
of the grand royal label (he must have had connections, because this is
the label the beastie boys created--also, some widely known people such
as liz phair sing on this album), and he sings poppy songs with his
acoustic guitar.  he is great, and if you like him, pick up his band,
noise addicts' latest album.  oh, the ben lee album is called "grandpaw
would".

i would also suggest albums by guided by voices, (alien lanes is thier
latest and greatest), pavement (wowee zowee is their latest, or crooked
rain, crooked rain), liz phair, blur, pulp (the latest british craze i
guess, i love the album, it just came out domestic last week), and
frente.

if anyone out there is an indie-rocker freak like i am, will you please
write to me?  i would love to chat music with someone, there is so much
out there that poeple don't know about....

hope this helps....
love
aim

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subject:      re: how i "met" ig

well...i'm new to the list, but i decided to add my sappy/romantic
story to this thread in order to introduce myself to the list.
how i was iged:
i had bougt so after it came out, but never really listened to it.
it was just a free cd from bmg. then last year(my senior year in high
school) i went on a class trip to arizona. i just happened to meet up
with a friend-of-a friend who also took the trip, and we hit it off
really well. actually, we kinda fell in love. we hung out several
nights, and talked about music. she was surprised i didn't listen to
ig, because it really fit my personality. well...it just so happened
that she had a bf of two years, so the situation was curious.
  after the class trip we hung out a bit, and swapped a few mix
tapes, some of which had ig on. the first song she played for me was
romeo & juliet(very ironic now) and i was mad because i love the
original, and didn't really like amy's style.(don't worry...i got over that)
  well...i graduated, and didn't see much of her over the summer,
because she avoided me. but she made me an ig tape which i wore thin
from overuse. now i've been told that she will not even talk about me
anymore. this saddens me, because i owe her so much for introducing
me to the indigo girls. however, it has helped me find a lot of
deeper meanings in many songs, including:
    ghost, left me a fool(or is it left me for a fool? i can't read
her writing), and fare thee well.
  hmm...well...i guess i blabed enough. i have a few questions
though...
   1. are there any tour plans other than the nff?
   2. since i have access to a cd-writable, and i disagree with the
concept of un-authorized bootleggers making a lot of money off of
other's work, i am willing to copy bootlegs for people at cost. i
will only charge shipping and the cost of the blank disk(usually
around $8-10 last i checked). unfortunately, i don't have any yet, so
if you have any really good cds or(somehow) dats, let me know. mayby
we could work something out.

sorry for rambling...

                                                                   eric d. thiel

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                         fuck censorship, and those who try to impose it.
                                   keep your politics out of my life.
           let those who are opposed to pornography lock themselves in a closet.
they are a minority, but are getting their way because we are too lazy to stop them.
                                 do something...before it's too late.
                                            i have spoken.
      "we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"
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date:         fri, 8 mar 1996 16:54:18 -0500
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to anyone who is interested....

i am pretty sure a chain store called meijer here in grand rapids has the
touch me fall screen saver on sale for under three dollars.  i can buy a
couple and send them to you if you want...i would have bought one, but i
don't actually own a computer.  they didn't sell very well i guess.  in
fact, i may go out and try to find them tonite.  i'll let you know if i
have any luck....

love,
aim

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to ron and everyone else...

i think the only way to have the girls do this is to have them clear it
with their label.  i think that is the major problem.  the label wants to
make money.  so, to have them allow that would probably take a slew of
legal mumbo jumbo.  someone correct me if i'm  wrong, please...

love
aim

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subject:      nigc help who are the nields

hey, i never got any response from list members in san diego so i did
some surfing on the net and found out that a band called the nields will
be playing in sd while i am there for spring break.  it seems to me that
someone has mentioned this band lately.  does anyone know who they are or
if they are worth seeing?  please respond privately, thanks alot!
have a great day
cami

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for a peppy punky sound i highly recomend:

personal best > team dresch / chainsaw
sleater- kinney> sleater- kinney / chainsaw
outpunk dance party> various artists / out

and for an eclectic mix:
anything on daemon or longplay records
(you just can't go wrong with them.)
claire

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my take:
"replace the ones, the ones, the ones that you love"
for some of us, we do love very dearly people (family for example) who
did, nonetheless, cause us great pain, and perhaps still do.
gracia

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> to ron and everyone else...
>
> i think the only way to have the girls do this is to have them clear it
> with their label.  i think that is the major problem.  the label wants to
> make money.  so, to have them allow that would probably take a slew of
> legal mumbo jumbo.  someone correct me if i'm  wrong, please...

actually,  sony(more specifically columbia) has an unusual policy
with toad the wet sprocket. toad doesn't mind the concept, so they
talked to colombia, and they agreed to allow it, as long as no one
sells it. in short, it is ok to trade, but not bootleg. i'm sure if
they wanted to the girls could work a similar agreement out with
sony/epic.  this agreement also kills the business of bootlegging,
because people can get the same stuff free elsewhere.

too knowledgeable,
                                  eric d. thiel

            "come into my parlour. i have a little something for you"
                           -spider-

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hi all-

so i maybe we should pose the question to perry at rdr or someone else
that may have more frequent interaction with amy or emily.

one thing that is absolutely important is that if they did adopt this
policy, our "culture" needs to abandon our previous habits of purchasing
bootlegs.  this is an often debated issue on the dead newsgroup with
most people coming down on those who deal with illegal cd's.  for most
of us, we've had to buy bootleg cd's for the lack of a wide spread
trading network.

maybe this can be a start.  perry. . . other "privileged ones"?  do you
think this can fly?

peace-
>ron
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on thu, 7 mar 1996, lisa a. ross wrote:

>    >discovered the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and
>    >emily were still at emory.
> just gotta show my age here.  when i was in 8th grade, so were amy and
> emily.
> rustyr
>


jeez, i must be methuselah!  i know a&e are younger than me!  how old are
they, anyway?

love n kisses, the philly kid

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cyndi lauper did a version of this as well, on her "true colors" album. possibly
one of my least favorite songs of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;p

rick


on fri, 8 mar 1996, ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com> wrote:
>the earliest "popular" version of iko iko was recorded by the dixie cups
>(i think in the 50's).  there was an earlier recording by some southern
>musician but was not widely distributed.
>
>it's a traditional mardi gras song based on chants between mardi gras
>"tribes."  who did the version on rain main?  it doesn't sound like
>anything the ig would have done; or have they?
>
>peace-
>ron
>
>>----------
>>from:  michael messner[smtp:mmessner@step.mother.com]
>>sent:  friday, march 08, 1996 11:07 am
>>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>>subject:       re: iko iko
>>
>>i think the neville bros. also did a version of iko iko.
>>
>>--mike
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>
*******************10 things i know for sure 1. i know practically every episode
of "designing women" by heart 2. i
realize that 'til tuesday was one of the greatest bands in the world and
that aimee mann is a rock goddess.3. i could live on chicken fingers and
honey mustard.4. sometimes, just out of curiousity, i'll watch "geraldo".5.
mary kate and ashley olsen are signs of the impending apocolypse.6. hugs are
good7. "my so-called life" is the closest thing to real life tv has ever
had.8. heaven is like tgi fridays.9. some good music will heal all wounds10.
electra-woman & dyna-girl rule!*********************************

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subject:      kid fears

for me, kid fears has always been a song about that insecure, sometimes
turbulent transition from childhood to adolescence...for me, it's a song
about the pain of growing up and *being* grown up, and wanting to regress to
the days when, even in the midst of family-related or other turmoil, life
was good. more "black and white". no gray areas. simple. secure.
filled with trust. cartoons, ice cream, playing in the yard.

but suddenly you're not a child anymore; suddenly, the world starts to look
different. you're losing that "innocent", simple, eyes-of-a-child view of
the world and are starting to see the world--your little world--as it
really is, as someone else mentioned earlier. you start to really see the
the problems that were there all along when you were a child (family
problems, as i relate to the song), but you never really understood as a
child. suddenly they have become painfully clear, but complicated,
confusing, and scary...and they involve you. the fears are so complex,
so real.

at the same time you've lost that incredible "i can do anything!"
confidence you had as a child. where did it go? you don't just do things;
you think about them first. you think about them too much. that painful
self-consciousness creeps in. you're not a child, but what are you? who are
you? what do people think of you? why is life so complicated, so suddenly?
"pain from pearls - hey little girl--how much have you grown?"

you're "on fire from the years"...

as a child, you could just get away from anything "bad" and confusing by
running away to a secret place and hiding, pretending, imagining--even
if it was just in your own mind--and that worked! you imagined the bad stuff
away, and forgot about it soon enough. mom called you for dinner, and
life went on. but it doesn't work that way anymore. "secret staircase...they
all know now you're inside..." for me is just that. what would you give
to be able to have that hiding place back? to be able to hide away from
everyone and everything, and make life a simple game for awhile? to
pretend you are the self-confident little girl you once were? but you
can't do that...life doesn't work that way anymore. "skipping stones...we
know the price now..."  it's no longer a simple game. there are strings
attached. there are consequences to pay. this is life. deal with it.

i would've given anything to trade these "big kid/almost adult" fears for my
"little kid fears" when i was going through this stage of my life. geez,
i'd give anything for a few of them right now! fears of monsters under the
bed, of shadows in the hallway, of being left forever with the babysitter,
of loud noises, and of daddy not being there on christmas morning (even
though i knew i'd see him a few hours later...)...a piece o' cake
compared to the fears that i've built up as a "fire from the years".

i love this song.

anyway, that's my personal, probably over-analyzed take on it.

have a fun weekend, all--

christine

"encourage your hopes, not your fears"  --a great bumper-sticker i saw
                                                        recently!

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       ********************************************
       ** i know what yer thinkin'. did he fire  **
       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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oops!! i just sent a totally blank letter!! :( sorry.
anyway, what i *meant* to write was that i agree with christine's take on the
song.
today, i had a pretty tough time dealing with something that's not going to go
away when i wake up in the morning. it's not like when i was little and i would
have spider nightmares and think they were the most horrible thing in the world,
but wake up the next morning and not think a thing of them...
life was much less complicated when my biggest problem was thinking that there
was a boogey man under the bed, before real problems like relationships and
silly romantic notions began nagging at my heels.
my humble opinion of course.
;)
rick

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       ** i know what yer thinkin'. did he fire  **
       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca wrote:

"hey... i forgot. it's international women's day today. have a good one,
all!!!"

***

ok, ignorant male that i am, i hadn't heard.  who, exactly, declared this,
and who's idea was it to let them go with only one day?

like so many other "holidays," (mothers', fathers', secretaries' [excuse me,
assistants'], grandparents', veterans', etc., etc.) i have to wonder if we're
not copping out by designating a single day out of the year to honor a person
or group.  it's as though we suggest that one's guilt over ignoring someone
important can be assuaged by remembering a particular day of the year, or
that someone who is normally a pretty good person should be chastised for not
remembering that day.

believe me, i don't want to diminish the importance of any of the people or
groups being honored by these days, but are we really accomplishing anything,
or are we giving some authority an avenue to say, "what more do you want?  we
named a day after them!"  (this does not even begin to discuss my theory that
certain holidays were created by and for the greeting card and/or floral
industries.)

if, in fact, the day and its designation are important to you, please forgive
my cynicism, and have a great international women's day (and a great day
after international women's day, and a great day after the day after...).  my
apologies to those i offend.  i just don't want anyone to settle for just a
day when they deserve so much more.

peace, love, chocolate...
neb

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subject:      help--web page http addresses?

if someone gets this message tonight please help me.  i am desparately in
search of the url for lifeblood (the ig page) and other ig websites.  i
need the addresses because the computer lab is closed and the only way i
can get on the web is through our text-only link, but it's not running
well enought for me to successfully search for the address (i tried
everything and called all my friends who know more about lynx than i do).
i need the tablature from the chords link to lifeblood...i guess this
isn't an emergency but it feels like one!!!  :)

thanks to anyone who responds!  suppose i'd get in trouble if i posed my
"emergency" to 911?  (guess that's a nursing joke...sorry guys wrong
list!! :)

--gwen

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on fri, 8 mar 1996, victoria mazzone wrote:

> on thu, 7 mar 1996, lisa a. ross wrote:
>
> >    >discovered the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and
> >    >emily were still at emory.
> > just gotta show my age here.  when i was in 8th grade, so were amy and
> > emily.
> > rustyr
> >
>
>
>i fall right in between emily (who's a few months older than me) and amy
(who's a few months younger than me)

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> if someone gets this message tonight please help me.  i am desparately in
> search of the url for lifeblood (the ig page) and other ig websites.  i

i have a list of most of the really cool ig web sites on my page...
check it out at:

http://www.unt.edu/~shelley

(note, you must be using netscape 2.0 to view most of my site... but you
can download it from the first page on my site).

later,
-shelley
shelley@jove.acs.unt.edu
http://www.unt.edu/~shelley

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subject:      i may be gone, but i will return!

dear everyone


firstly apologies for the waste of bandwidth, but to anyone out there
who wants to get hold of me, you might find that i have disappeared
from this address for a short while (whilst i sort out my account),
so if you do want to contact me, try my work e-mail -

astokell@mailhost.bretton.ac.uk

cheers!


andrew (rbc31@dial.pipex.com)

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dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov> said:

> sooo... during the winter i took to etching poetry into the ice. i
> would etch it in backwards so that it would be readable from the
> street. always original poetry and i never wrote the poems down in a
> permanent medium. when the ice on the window melted, the poem would
> be gone forever, then new ice would form and a new poem would be
> born.

your own version of an am. indian sand painting?

lori

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ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com> said:

> it's a traditional mardi gras song based on chants between mardi gras
> "tribes."  who did the version on rain main?  it doesn't sound like
> anything the ig would have done; or have they?

are the mardi gras groups called "tribes" or "crews". i believe that they
are "crews" in new orleans (the spelling may be "krew", that's how it was
spelled by pensacola, florida groups). in mobile alabama (the actual
birthplace of mardi gras in north america), our groups are simply called
"organizations".


lori (bead queen)

boobs for beeds - sign held by a member of the "conde cavaliers" mardi gras
                  organization.

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subject:      mailing list

hello.
        i would like to know if i could be put on the mailing list?  my
e-mail address is:  sullivcp@maple.lemoyne.edu

                        thank you.
                         colleen sullivan.

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date:         fri, 8 mar 1996 19:49:36 est
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subject:      nigc - jimmy lafave

dear everyone:

the other day dan perkins recommended a few cd's including...

>jimmy lafave.. singer/songwriter from austin, tx.. has a few cds
out
>                          the ones i would recommend are austin
>                           skyline and buffalo return to the plains
>                            jimmy is kinda along the lines of dylan,

>                            but different...

anyway, i thought this funny because a few weeks ago i was
doing a client event up in banff, alberta, canada (i had brought
a band up there).  it was about 1:30am and the band was
tearing down when one of the guests overheard me talking about this
list and asked me if i was into music and the austin music scene
etc. etc.

i told him that i liked many types of music; he mentioned that he
was
from austin and i told him that i heard they had great music there
(southxsouthwest etc.) and he asked if i'd heard of jimmy lafave.
i said (honestly), "no."  anyway, the guy, who'd had in the realm of

about 30 drinks in him, stayed and talked for about 20 minutes
because he couldnt believe i hadn't heard of jimmy lafave.  he
just wouldn't quit.

dan, i wish you had been there (or that i'd read your post two weeks
ago).

melissa

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subject:      bootlegs/taping section

dear ron....

>is there any way that on their next tour, the indigo girls can be
>convinced to openly allow recording of their performances?  is
there
>someone here that is close to them and can convince them of this?
i
>realize some people have said amy and emily aren't bothered by it
but
>that is a far cry from having a tapers section and telling security
not
>to confiscate thousands of dollars of equipment.

ron, couldn't agree with you more.  i read in rolling stone that 1200

curfews sold approx 162,000 units (it was an article focusing on
the reduced sales capacity of live albums).  as ig studio albums sell

approx 4x this amount, one can guess that it's the core fan base who

wants bootlegs, soundboard tapes.  very few, if any, sales would be
lost.

ok, i think that emily or amy said on "watershed" that they liked to
support groups influencing "change."  here's their chance to prove
it....allow for a taping section at ig shows.

melissa

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subject:      re: intrntl women's day(nigc)

just a small bit of background on international women's day which has been
celebrated for many years around the world. the date commemorates the death
of many women in the triangle fire back in the early part of the century; a
fire started in a sewing sweatshop and the women,who were locked in , all
died. march is also women's history month so we actually get 30 days!

gynergy

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subject:      re: intrntl women's day(nigc)

>thankyou, carol, for the post about intrntl women's day...
iwhen i was a young girl, i watched a movie about the triangle factory
fire... i remember having nightmares about the whole thing off and on for
weeks afterwards. i had no idea that the day was put in place to honour the
women who died in that fire.

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subject:      i'm going to the concert!! moo!

hey everybody,
i just got my tickets to the may 4 concert and i'm so excited!!!
could someone please keep me posted on the plans for meeting up
in new orleans?  i've read about the moo t-shirts and all and
i think it'd be really cool if we could all get together somewhere.
those of you who are going please be sure to let me know what the
plans are.  i cannot wait!!  i know it's gonna be a lot of fun!

later,
ben

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subject:      re: don't kill me for this...
x-to:         half pint <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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on tue, 5 mar 1996, half pint wrote:

> on tue, 5 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>
> > except for 123 all the songs you mentioned are amazing! i guess its' just
> > because i'm a nis fan. every ig fan thinks that this is their worst cd
> > while i think its' their best! anyone else think so?
> > ben
> >
> yes!!  i agree with any (lady of aragon) and ben here...  there is a
> certain difference between nis and the resto f the albums...  i don;t
> know if i like it the best (they're all so good!)  but it's constantly in
> my cd player!

could it be because the quality of the songs is so much more consistent
on that album than on most of the others?   if you take, say, the indigo
girls album, there is so much variation in quality in the songs (take
closer to fine against blood and fire or center stage, for instance) and
the same with rites of passage (chickenman against airplane);  the ig
album in particular is imho a collection of songs rather than a whole.
whereas nis, with the exception possibly of 123 and keeper ..., is a lot
more mature and consistent, which maybe is why is so much more difficult
to pick out a favourite song from it ... just my 2 cents ...

mat

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: ig survey results - part 1 - igc
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on tue, 5 mar 1996, angela ciesla wrote:

> how come _i_ haven't been surveyed???
>
> a staunch supporter sincs the early years.

the survey is on sherlyn koo's web page.   i'm not sure of the url but
it's on the australian geko web site (geko.net.au).

mat

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subject:      re: intrntl women's day(nigc)
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on sat, 9 mar 1996, river city news wrote:

> >thankyou, carol, for the post about intrntl women's day...
> iwhen i was a young girl, i watched a movie about the triangle factory
> fire... i remember having nightmares about the whole thing off and on for
> weeks afterwards. i had no idea that the day was put in place to honour the
> women who died in that fire.

where did this fire happen btw?

mat

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x-to:         mawrtyr@minerva.cis.yale.edu

gynergy tells us:
***begin copied***
just a small bit of background on international women's day which has been
celebrated for many years around the world. the date commemorates the death
of many women in the triangle fire back in the early part of the century; a
fire started in a sewing sweatshop and the women,who were locked in , all
died. march is also women's history month so we actually get 30 days!
***end copied***

boy, i'm glad there are people with more positive attitudes than me.  if i
ruled the world, in the pessimistic mood i've been in lately, it would have
been "triangle fire day," reminding us of the tragic possibilities of evil
circumstances...

i'm still hoping that we will evolve to the point where there will be no need
for women's history (or black history, or <insert group name> history) month
because history will be written and taught truthfully--everyone's truth, not
just that of the winners of the last war.

"i start looking at the world we have/
and while it's not completely bad/
there's a lot of room for improvement/..."
--sonia rutstein, disappear fear/"who's so scared?"

ok, enough pessimism.  spring is almost here, live theatre, music, and dance
are still going on, and my sweetie is coming to visit me for a week over
spring break.  life is good.

peace, love, chocolate...
neb

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>on sunday mar10 1996,( concerning the triangle factory fire ) mat wrote:
>
>where did this fire happen btw?
>
>mat
>it happened in nyc in march 1911at the triangle shirtwaist factory.
international women's day had been celbrated since 1909, but march 8th
( the date of the fire where many women lost their lives due to extremely
poor working conditions ) became an emotional focal point and was adopted as
the date for iwd....
hope that answers your question well enough, mat.
peace... kim
>
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subject:      re: ig survey results - part 1 - igc

>on tue, 5 mar 1996, angela ciesla wrote:
>
>> how come _i_ haven't been surveyed???
> a staunch supporter sincs the early years.

the full address for the survey is :
http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey.html
check it out... very interesting + the results posted so far are fun, too.
kim
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on sun, 10 mar 1996, river city news wrote:

> >on sunday mar10 1996,( concerning the triangle factory fire ) mat wrote:
> >
> >where did this fire happen btw?
> >
> >mat
> >it happened in nyc in march 1911at the triangle shirtwaist factory.
> international women's day had been celbrated since 1909, but march 8th
>  ( the date of the fire where many women lost their lives due to extremely
> poor working conditions ) became an emotional focal point and was adopted as
> the date for iwd....
> hope that answers your question well enough, mat.
> peace... kim

just out of interest, did this disaster lead to any change in the law
re:  working conditions, sweat shops etc?   if that happened now i'm sure
a few heads would roll!

mat

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in a message dated 96-03-07 20:14:25 est, anb038@nwu.edu (alycia) writes:

>
>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>emory.
>
>

ha!! old!! you're not old. when i was in 8th grade, ('69-70) i don't think
they'd were even in kindergarten yet!


angie in kc

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in a message dated 96-03-08 13:18:28 est, mmedido@aol.com (claire johnson)
writes:

in a message dated 96-03-07 20:13:12 est,(alycia) writes:
>
>>reading these messages is making me feel old --  people actually discovered
>>the ig in 8th grade?  when i was in 8th grade, amy and emily were still at
>>emory.
>
>oh my ! i just refigured the math and i think that a&e would have been
>3 & 4 years old when i was in the 8th grade!! *eep* i could have been
>their babysitter ! (and a darned good one too!):)
>("now girls, you need to finish your vegetables
>before you play your guitars ! and stay away
>from those kids on dead man's hill, they're no good !")
>
>( name withheld )
>
c'mon claire! i'm as old as you (maybe older) at least physically. my body
will be 40 on april 27, but mentally i'm still just a college girl. i don't
mind telling people my age, cause up to 3 years ago i was still getting
proofed. but my 3 year old son (he's very determined uh stubborn), and this
last year (my husband lost his job, and then got a great offer we couldn't
refuse to move to kc) have sort of aged me. still i don't listen to classic
rock stations (yeech)  and try to keep up with new music. the problem is
finding it when you're not in an arena that promotes it, like a school.

angie (still 39 for a few more weeks) in kc

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in a message dated 96-03-08 14:46:09 est, 101624.416@compuserve.com (amit
gandhi) writes:

sandy denny. phew !  one of her songs "who knows where the time goes"
>is possibly the most melancholy song ever. she was also in a rock/folk
>supergroup
>called fotheringay who only put out one album, you will not regret getting
>it.
>she tragically died after ( i think ) a fall then coma, she is one of the
>giants
>of the english folk scene.
>
she also does the hauntilg part on led zeppelin's the battle of evermore.  it
has a lot of tolkein references in it, and is almost all acoustic 12 string.
if you're only familiar with their hard stuff, you may want to check out this
golden oldie.


angie in kc

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subject:      re: iwd...one more time (nigc)

hey mat, you wrote:

>just out of interest, did this disaster lead to any change in the law
>re:  working conditions, sweat shops etc?   if that happened now i'm sure
>a few heads would roll!
**************************
my answer:
so far as my memory serves me, the public outcry over the tragic + entirely
preventable death of so many innocent people was instrumental in the
establishment of decent + safe working conditions in factories in the united
states at that time. i'm fairly certain heads rolled then - but not to the
extent they would have now. laws were put in place concerning safety + human
rights based on the event... now days violators of those new laws are
tried... back then... well - i don't know. course - i'm canadian and don't
know all that much about american law or history. maybe someone else does?
peace...  and decent working conditions, kim
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subject:      nigc; battle of evermore
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on sun, 10 mar 1996, angela ciesla wrote:
>she also does the hauntilg part on led zeppelin's the battle of
>evermore.  it has a lot of tolkein references in it, and is almost all
>acoustic 12 string. if you're only familiar with their hard stuff, you
>may want to check out this  golden oldie.

i really like this song... on the soundtrack to the movie "singles"
there's a version of the battle of evermore done by the lovemongers(- the
two chicks from that eighties band, heart.)  anyways, it rocks.
-mandy

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subject:      ig survey

sorry for being so post happy today... it's just that i made a mistake when
i posted the adress for the ig survey in answer to an earlier post.
the adress is:http://www.geko.net.au/sherlyn/igsurvey/igsurvey.html
once again: i apologize : )
have a good one, all.
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on sun, 10 mar 1996, angela ciesla wrote:

> in a message dated 96-03-08 14:46:09 est, 101624.416@compuserve.com (amit
> gandhi) writes:
>
> sandy denny. phew !  one of her songs "who knows where the time goes"
> >is possibly the most melancholy song ever. she was also in a rock/folk
> >supergroup
> >called fotheringay who only put out one album, you will not regret getting
> >it.
> >she tragically died after ( i think ) a fall then coma, she is one of the
> >giants
> >of the english folk scene.
> >

she was also part of the legendary folk-rock group fairport convention
and sang on their album unhalfbricking (and a couple of others).   fp
also did a version of who knows ...?   she died of a brain haemmorhage
(sp?) after she fell down the stairs at a friend's house in 1978, in fact
she was just about to release another album.   recently an album has been
released called "sandy denny, trevor lucas & friends - the attic tracks".
i've read reviews and it says it's an interesting collection although not
a good introduction to sd ...

mat

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date:         sun, 10 mar 1996 14:55:02 est
reply-to:     amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
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subject:      re: converting to igism, sandy , so and moose

hi all

thanks angie ( where is kc ? ), didn't know about sandy denny on led zep's battle...
i'll have another listen without the cotton wool in my ears !

sunday evening watching the oz formula 1 ( are you there sherlyn ? ), spent the
weekend wandering down the coast listening to so ( have to get a personal stereo,
those speakers and amp kill my back ) and at last i think it's
finally sunk in. don't know about you guys but it can take me years for an album to
find it's place in my head. when it did i was grinning like an idiot ( no comments
pleeze ) and felt 10 feet off the floor singing along, i get a buzz thinking
about it now.  this might get a bit philosophical but i thought i'd chuck it in,
what is the thing that is "hardest to learn was the least complicated" ?

happily confused
amit
c/o st.swithins home for the bewildered

ps did damon hill just win the f1 ??? yes !!! sorry to those who haven't watched it
yet :)
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sandy denny. phew !  one of her songs "who knows where the time goes"
>is possibly the most melancholy song ever. she was also in a rock/folk
>supergroup
>called fotheringay who only put out one album, you will not regret getting
>it.
>she tragically died after ( i think ) a fall then coma, she is one of the
>giants
>of the english folk scene.
>
she also does the hauntilg part on led zeppelin's the battle of evermore.  it
has a lot of tolkein references in it, and is almost all acoustic 12 string.
if you're only familiar with their hard stuff, you may want to check out this
golden oldie.


angie in kc

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date:         sun, 10 mar 1996 19:47:24 gmt
reply-to:     mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      random thought(s) (pointless igc)

but after sifting through four weeks of messages, i feel in good company...

anyway, i was remembering, just before i got here, how i first saw the song
title of let it be me, and i was thinking...'coooooooool, the everly brothers
song...'
that. that would be the greatest...

if i was feeling humerous i'd now go on about how romeo and juliet i expected
to be the shakespere play..(did you know i never studied him. not ever...) or
how i can't think of any igs songs that have the same titles as other tunes,
but i'm sure there are...

oh, and question.
uncle john's band on an ig's tribute??

it's like smells like teen spirit on a tori amos tribute...

oh it's good to be back :):)
*eveil snicker, but in a caring, sharing way...*

*runs off to get even better...*

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subject:      re: i'm going to the concert!! moo!
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on sun, 10 mar 1996, benjamin k. smith wrote:

> hey everybody,
>  i just got my tickets to the may 4 concert and i'm so excited!!!
>  could someone please keep me posted on the plans for meeting up

>  i think it'd be really cool if we could all get together somewhere.

        yeah...i've been wondering this too.  i'm assuming most of us
will be at the hotel and stuff, but for those who aren't staying at the
place bert arranged for us, what's up???

        as for myself, i was hoping to check out the house of blues in
new orleans the night before.  and is anyone  going bringing their guitar
for a little list sing along jam???  maybe the girls will be at the same
hotel, hear us, and then either a.  invite us onstage the next night or
b. shoot us on the spot.  cool!!!!

just a few ideas.  there must be folks out there who are familiar with
the city and can suggest a few places to go.  damn...noone's planning on
sleeping, right?

ccsbzzz,
teri

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subject:      nigc-pooh's address?

from: cindy katz
i'm looking for pooh's email address. i seem to have misplaced it. how
unususal for me ;) sorry for the bandwidth and thanks in advance.
--cindy

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from:         larissa brown <issy@eworld.com>
subject:      re: re[2]: indigo girls screen saver.
x-to:         yvette.smith@autodesk.com

does anyone know of a mac version of this screen saver?
i bought the ibm/pc one by misteak
spaced out as usual
would sell it or trade it for relatively little
i paid $10 for it
thanks
larissa

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from:         kelly woodward <danceig@aol.com>
subject:      guitar help:nigc

just a quick question:  my birthday was on friday and my mom wants to get me
a guitar since i've been asking for one forever.  what would be a good
acoustic guitar fror a beginner?  if anyone can help--e-mail me
privately--thanks.

kelly in kc

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subject:      i'm baaaaacccckkkkk (nigc, just ig love coming from my pores)

hi everyone! i am back after being gone for ten days from this list. man did
i miss it! and to top it all off, my portable cd player broke when i was in
baltimore so no ig the last six days of my trip! it was frightening!

anyways, i am just glad to be back with you all and enjoying reading the digestsfrom the past nine days.

hope you are all well and happy....

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      kd lang's nose?

clue  me in here, but what is wrong with kd's nose??
clueless

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subject:      re: iko iko (nigc i think)
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cyndi lauper (talk about a blast from the past...) also does a version - it's
on her "true colors" album.

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subject:      re: i'm going to the concert!! moo!
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   >next night or b. shoot us on the spot.  cool!!!!
you know you're an indigo girls fan when you think getting shot by them
would be cool!!!!  <grinning very large, 'cause i'd have to agree!>
rustyr

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subject:      jazzfest ids again....

ok. i know i never post.  well, hardly ever. :)  anyway. (an emily quote!)
its 9 or so tonight; i was driving to my office to reboot my pc which took a
dive on me while i was inputing a tax return here at the house;  and i'm
listening to the song "standup" by ferron on which the girls (a&e) do backup
vocals and like an incredible amount of stellar guitar work.  i think emily
alone plays about four different guitars on the song.
so i start thinking about jazzfest, and hooking up with "y'all" that are
going to it.  and then i think, we're pretty obsessive/compulsive and will
probably all manage to get right up by the stage.  (a good
obsessive/compulsive - no offense meant for anyone)  and then i think about
cylinda's moo thought and this like entire front row of white t's with moo
in marks-a-lot, and then ferron is singing "standup and be counted" and i
just started laughing. i don't usually have a whole lot to laugh during the
horrid months of tax season but this really gave me a moment and now i
really want to cast my vote for a moo line-up at
the jazzfest.  and the saturday concert might be cool too but i just love
the thought of emily and amy looking down at the front of the crowd and
seeing a row of moo's.  maybe better yet, moo!s yeah that's it an !.  oh i'm
really losing it now.
comments may be sent to someone else.  i'm sure the ambulance from the
hospital will be here any second with attendants and straight jackets. (g)
yours almost truly,

karen

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subject:      indigo girls and the muppets...(limited and silly igc)

remember a couple years ago when we had some discussion on here about "if
amy and emily were muppets, which muppets would they be?" well i'm
definitely not trying to restart that thread!!!...but i remember some
interview a short while after that conducted by one of our listmembers who
asked them that question and (i don't remember what muppets they answered
with, but i do remember) they said that they'd love to be on the muppet
show, except it was off the air...but guess what?!? it's back!  muppet
time...so does anyone know the producers or someone influencial?  maybe we
could hint..."psst!  ask the indigo girls to be guest stars!  they're taking
over a year off!  they've got plenty of time..."

can't you just see emily playing the guitar and singing the rainbow
connection with kermit or being chased around the stage by animal?

can't you see amy doing "it's not easy being green" with kermit or robin or
jammin with janis and the band?

i bet someone could think up some great muppet-style lyrics to closer to fine...

this may have some potential...;)

sorry, y'all, if only i could write my gigantic paper this easily...i needed
some stress relief, hope you did too!  and it does have some
potential...anyone know russell carter? ;)

karen (k) (who's had too much caffiene...can you tell?)

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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      please read: nicole mccarthy,chad m, jim s., susan h.,
              and deanna l

hi y'all. i am back from my trip and trying to get my proverbial shit
together. here's the tape update:

chad m: did you get your copy?
jim and nicole: yours are going out in the mail tomorrow
deanna; ditto, tomorrow
susan hetherington: did you get yours? i can't remember if i mailed it or not....

please get back to me so i can finish up round one of dubbing :)

sorry to all of you for any delays experienced!

susan your happy pal in co.

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      re: indigo girls and the muppets...(limited and silly igc)
x-to:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199603110540.vaa28280@gladstone.uoregon.edu>

that's really funny that you should mention that, b/c my roommate and i
had the same discussion on friday. (:  we definitely want to see a&e
interacting with the muppets.  something about that just makes me lol.
   julie

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on sun, 10 mar 1996, karen a. vittek wrote:

> remember a couple years ago when we had some discussion on here about "if
> amy and emily were muppets, which muppets would they be?" well i'm
> definitely not trying to restart that thread!!!...but i remember some
> interview a short while after that conducted by one of our listmembers who
> asked them that question and (i don't remember what muppets they answered
> with, but i do remember) they said that they'd love to be on the muppet
> show, except it was off the air...but guess what?!? it's back!  muppet
> time...so does anyone know the producers or someone influencial?  maybe we
> could hint..."psst!  ask the indigo girls to be guest stars!  they're taking
> over a year off!  they've got plenty of time..."
>
> can't you just see emily playing the guitar and singing the rainbow
> connection with kermit or being chased around the stage by animal?
>
> can't you see amy doing "it's not easy being green" with kermit or robin or
> jammin with janis and the band?
>
> i bet someone could think up some great muppet-style lyrics to closer to fine...
>
> this may have some potential...;)
>
> sorry, y'all, if only i could write my gigantic paper this easily...i needed
> some stress relief, hope you did too!  and it does have some
> potential...anyone know russell carter? ;)
>
> karen (k) (who's had too much caffiene...can you tell?)
>
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subject:      hello...minimal igc

hi there everybody

well, i don't know what i've done, but while trying to stop the
digest option, i think i've removed myself from the
list...bummerations...i've tried to resubscribe, but nothing's
happening yet...and all i wanted was to have a day of listdom before
i have to go away again...sob sob!!

rather strangely, i don't have much to say...so you're all spared of
the general ramblings i usually bore y'all with.  but i have to
mention ig somewhere...oh yeah the top10 thingy and how there are
more e-songs than a-songs...in mho, a puts the icing on the top of
the cake type thing with a lot of e-songs...they wouldn't mean
anywhere near as much without a...she's like tinkerbell, sprinkling
fairy dust over the songs and putting power and magic into them.

...anyway, i figure i've completely lost my head now!

gotta go
talk to y'all later
love helene

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subject:      final song selection for indicated iii

this is the song selection and order for indicated iii.  i am now making
master copy tapes for the tape tree volunteers.  the cassette insert is also
being designed and created.

if you are a contributor to the tape, please check my spellings and name
inclusions (or exclusions!).  if there are any corrections, let me know
immediately.

side a

hammer and a nail - rob sticka/andrea bertino
mystery - scott ninneman
galileo - two homesluts and a houseboy
strange fire - greg flamer/jamie weinberg/sherman serna
welcome me - lorinda wright/patty arrington
thin line - rob augino/courtney wright
finlandia - cats on fire
power of two - rob sticka/andrea bertino
hand me downs - katie mccurry/george patrick
blood and fire - pamela shaw
ghost - neil hunt/kirsti reeve/jaq delaney

side b

walk away - rob sticka/scot ninneman
hey jesus - two homesluts and a houseboy
love will come to you - phil norman
three hits - lorinda wright/dan grossman
hand me downs - scot ninneman
world falls - rob sticka
uncle john's band - cats on fire
land of canaan - rob augino/courtney wright
everybody's waiting for someone to come home - julie goldman/ashley filip
mystery - neil hunt
center stage - rob augino/courtney wright


rob sticka

national aeronautics and space administration
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subject:      pray (nigc)

sorry to do this but i recently found out that my granfather has
cancer.  i just spent my whole spring break with him and now i am
back at school.  i know that whatever happens is inevitable but i
thought maybe some of y'all can pray for him.  not so much for a cure
or immortality, but just that whatever time is left is the best time.
sorry to do this but i know some of you are rather religious.  thanks
in advance.
jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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subject:      jazzfest

ok,ok i know i am late to the party so making a long story short, i need the
info on getting tickets and also where abouts in new orleans does this take
place?.?, one more thing, the indigo girls play on may 5th, right? does anyone
know anything about a night show.?.?.?


thanks-
tiff

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subject:      re>re: iko iko
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                      re>re: iko iko                               11-03-=
1996
michael messner, you wrote:

i think the neville bros. also did a version of iko iko.

--mike


i knew iko iko by amazulu was a cover up. is the original version by the =
neville brothers?

btw the first time i saw ig, the opened for nb in amsterdam!!

christel

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reply-to:     anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
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subject:      jimmy lafave

just got this from pbs:

* austin city limits
"lisa loeb/jimmy lafave"
saturday, 3/16 (9-10:00 pm et)
grammy-nominated pop-folk artist lisa loeb delivers a captivating
performance. her intelligent songwriting and catchy, acoustic rhythms make
her one of popular music's most promising young performers. fans from
austin to new zealand embrace the soaring ballads and passionate rock of
oklahoma native jimmy lafave, who performs his moving rendition of the 60s
pop hit "walk away renee" plus his original music. stereo/surround sound

anna w

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 08:27:53 -0600
reply-to:     "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
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from:         "james c. driskell iii" <jcd0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
subject:      hello once again and thank you....

greetings one and all...

i would like to thank everyone who responded to my distress call last
week. i have not written back to any of you individually yet, because i
have been pretty busy getting a new place and new stuff...shopping can be so
fun when someone else is paying, did you ever notice that?  i will write
to each of you who responded individually sometime this week. i would
like to let all who asked though, that i am fine...i was not injured in
any way, i was at a friends house when it occurred. the two good things
that came out of all this is that one...i have gotten to meet a number of
kind and considerate people via e-mail thanks to this list. and that
since i had all of my cd's and stereo equipment logged on video tape
the landlord is replacing all of my cd's that were lost...man i feel
sorry for him...i had about 450. hehehehehehehe oh well...at least
they'll all be new...i wish i had som ig bootlegs on cd but i
didn't....anyway....i have rambled on for long enough...as i said i will
write to all of you soon...again...thank you.

  standing on the edge of forever,

            jim

               "learn to pretend there's more than love that matters.."
                                               e.s.

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 07:49:13 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      what day is it? + muppet silly stuff

hey all.
can anyone tell me what the song for today is? for that matter, what are the
songs for all of the days this week? much obliged.
btw, i think it'd be great if the girls did a guest spot on the muppet show
too. perhaps they could do pig fears w miss piggy?.....  : ) dunno - just a
thought. love n' fuzzy cuddley things to all.
kim.
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 11:28:34 est
reply-to:     "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
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subject:      who needs sleep? (n.o. concerts, fan tour, etc.)

hi folks!

okay, so is it "moo!" or what!!  are we any closer to a decision about this
t-shirt thing?!  i can tell ya that if you wear moo! at jazzfest,  be prepared
to be mooed at all day by a bunch of drunk folks and other people who have no
clue as to the reasoning behind it!  if you can handle that, then it sounds like
a plan!!  solidarity, that's the key!!  maybe if we're in a group we'll feel
better about it.  they'll probably think we're on a "drink your milk" campaign!!
ha!  :  )

also, a few people have been throwing ideas out for places for us to go on
friday (i assume that's going to be the day we wander around the streets of
n.o.).  since i am only a little over an hour from n.o., i am not staying in a
hotel (i'm crashing at my favorite and only brother's house!  it's much cheaper!
what are family for if not to take advantage of, right?!  ha!), but i definitely
want to be part of the group outings!

teri suggested going to the house of blues (i'm pretty positive it's on decatur
st.), an idea that i liked a lot.  i've been meaning to go there!  other people
have mentioned that they wanted to go to the hard rock cafe and planet
hollywood, etc. to pick up t-shirts or whatever.  i have been to n.o. a lot, and
know a few cool spots to go (although i've always had someone to lead me
there!).  the french market is a big "market place" (thus the name) where people
sell different types of goods (tshirts, jewelry, books, and a little bit of
everything else).  some "tourist" and locals like to go there.  i think it would
probably be cool (maybe you agree?  maybe not?) to ride the streetcar on st.
charles ave.  it goes down st. charles and you see a lot of n.o.  it's pretty
nice!  there are all types of shops on canal st. (and any other street for that
matter!) for those of you interested in shopping.  i think whatever we do
though, we should stick together as a group.  i'm willing to go where ever!  i'm
sure many (probably all) of you will want to check out bourbon st. since it's
the party street.  but i think it would be much more fun if we don't split up
(plus the fact that if we do, we'll never find each other again).  those are
just a few ideas i thought i'd throw out.  let me know what y'all think!

moo!  peace,

tamara

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 11:39:31 -0500
reply-to:     rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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subject:      guitarist alert - the definitive crazy game

here it is!!  enjoy...  don't give up on this song.  you can play this
if you work at it a little every day.  you can impress your friends,
be the life of a party if you learn this song!!

save this somewhere, you may want this for future reference!

crazy game -- emily saliers
___________________________

tab by scot ninnemann, rob sticka, and ann mahasaen
(scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu, rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov, mahasaen@acs.bu.edu)

this version is compiled from songbook versions, by watching emily's
fingering on videos, and by ear from the strange fire cd.  of course,
there are always a few minor variations between various performances of
this song, usually simply slightly different strumming patterns.

here are some suggested fingerings for chords.  please note especially the
first three chords of the song as well as the last three chords of the
chorus as fingered here--because the fingerings shown here of these chords
are related, it will make switching between these chords much easier:

t=thumb, 1=index, 2=middle, 3=ring, 4=pinky


     c#7                b7             b7                f#7
(bar 4th fret)    (bar 2nd fret)  (bar 7th fret)
-----------       -----------     -----------        ===========
1 1 1 1 1 1       1 1 1 1 1 1     1 1 1 1 1 1        | | | | | |
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | | | | |       | | | | | |     | | | 2 | |        t x 1 | 2 x
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | 3 | 4 |       | | 3 | 4 |     | 3 | | | |        | | | 3 | |
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | | | | |       | | | | | |     | | | | | |        | | | | | |

  amaj7             amaj7          f#m7             fmaj7
(bar 5th fret)
-----------       ===========    ===========      ===========
1 1 1 1 1 1       x | | 1 | |    | | | | | |      t x | | 1 |
-----------       -----------    -----------      -----------
| | 2 3 | |       | | 2 | 3 |    t x 1 2 3 |      | | 2 3 | |
-----------       -----------    -----------      -----------
| 4 | | | |       | | | | | |    | | | | | |      | | | | | |


amaj7:  emily plays the amaj7 at the 0 fret.  if it's easier for
you, play this chord at the 5th fret.

if you have trouble using your thumb on the f#7, f#m7, and fmaj7
chords, try using these fingerings:

   f#7                f#m7            fmaj7

===========        ===========     ===========
| | | | | |        | | | | | |     1 x | | 2 |
-----------        -----------     -----------
1 x 2 | 3 |        1 x 2 3 4 |     | | 3 4 | |
-----------        -----------     -----------
| | | 4 | |        | | | | | |     | | | | | |


emily plays b7 at the seventh fret during the "...and it's true..." part.


first three chords of the song:
(first fret shown is seventh fret)

   b11              b7+5-9            emaj7
-----------       -----------      -----------
1 x 2 | 3 |       1 x 2 | | |      | 1 x | 2 3  <---seventh fret
-----------       -----------      -----------
| | | 4 | |       | | | 4 4 4      | | | 4 | |  <---eighth fret


different fingering (if you prefer the thumb) for  b7+5-9
                                                 -----------
                                                 t x 1 | | |
                                                 -----------
                                                 | | | 2 2 2

intro and verse tab

///=slide, x=muted string


e--0----8---|------7-x-7-------7-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
b--7----8---|------7-x-7-------7-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
g--8----8---|------8-x-8-------8-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
d--7----7---|------x-x-x-------x-----|6---6-x---x-6---6-------|
a--x----x---|----x-7-x-7-----7-7-----|7---7-------7---7-------|
e--7----7---|0---0-------0---0-----0-|0---------------0-------|
  (ribato)   ^     ^     ^     ^      ^     ^     ^     ^


                          (this ms. first time only,
                           strum fmaj7 thereafter.)
e-------4---2-----2-------|----------0-----0-------|-----------------------|
b-----------2-----2-------|--------1---1-----1-----|----------------5-7----|
g-----------2-----2-------|------2-------2-----2---|------------4-6--------|
d-------------2-----2-----|----2-----------------2-|--------2/6------------|
a-------------0-----0-----|------------------------|----2-4----------------|
e-0---------------------0-|1-----------------------|0----------------------|
  ^     ^     ^     ^      ^     ^     ^     ^     |^     ^     ^     ^

e-------4---5-------4-----|----4-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----0-0---------8-8----|
b-------6---6-------6-----|----2-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----7-7---------8-8----|
g-----4-----------4-------|----2-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----8-8---------8-8----|
d-------------------------|----2-x-x-x-2---4-x-----|----7-7---7-7---7-7----|
a-4-----------4-----------|----4-x-x-x-4---4-x-----|----x-x---x-x-----x----|
e-----------------------0-|2-----------2------02////7-----7---7-7-----7---7|
  ^     ^     ^     ^      ^     ^     ^     ^     |^     ^     ^     ^


there is a quick open e string right here     ^  before the 2slide7.

repeat (excluding first two chords at the beginning) for the verse,
substituting a b7 for the last measure:

first verse
crazy game,  i never should have started to play
but now you couldn't tear me away
love is sweet, sweet baby, so good to you, and so bad
and i fear, the situation's clear before my eyes
confusion wants to break me and it tries
i've been a little bit stronger from the start

                   b7(2nd fret)
listen to my heart


chorus:
                 a(5th fret)         am(5th fret)
'cause if you're ever believing i'm thinking of leaving


            g#m(4th fret)        c#7
look to the moon 'cause it's a fact

                       f#m          g#m                      a(5th fret)
she may go wandering about, but she always comes shining back

          b7(7th fret)            amaj7    g#m   f#7  f#m7  fmaj7
and it's true                        i'll wait for you

(for these last three chords, be sure to use the fingerings listed at the
start of this document)  this then leads into the last four measures of
the verse played as an instrumental break, and the verse then restarts:


second verse (play same as 1st verse)
you dry your tears, don't be thinking grey is here to stay
sometimes everything's in the way
you're wanting to look at it turn your view around
dry your eyes  eyes like yours should carry a smile
i haven't seen them sparkle in a while
give it one more try, dry your eyes

chorus again

the last two chords of the song are:


---8----0-----
---8----7-----
---8----8-----
---7----6-----
---x----7-----
---7----0-----
rob sticka

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 09:45:58 -0600
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subject:      thanks

just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my inquiry about the nields!
this list is great and so are the people on it!
have a grand monday!
thanks, cami
looking forward to the show and finishing finals!

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 11:56:11 est
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: indigo girls and the muppets...(limited and silly igc)
x-to:         kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu
in-reply-to:  <199603110540.vaa28280@gladstone.uoregon.edu>; from "karen a.
              vittek" at mar 10, 96 9:38 pm

>
> remember a couple years ago when we had some discussion on here about "if
> amy and emily were muppets, which muppets would they be?" well i'm
> definitely not trying to restart that thread!!!...but i remember some
> interview a short while after that conducted by one of our listmembers who
> asked them that question and (i don't remember what muppets they answered
> with, but i do remember) they said that they'd love to be on the muppet
> show, except it was off the air...but guess what?!? it's back!  muppet
> time...so does anyone know the producers or someone influencial?  maybe we
> could hint..."psst!  ask the indigo girls to be guest stars!  they're taking
> over a year off!  they've got plenty of time..."
>
> can't you just see emily playing the guitar and singing the rainbow
> connection with kermit or being chased around the stage by animal?
>
> can't you see amy doing "it's not easy being green" with kermit or robin or
> jammin with janis and the band?
>
> i bet someone could think up some great muppet-style lyrics to closer to
>  fine...

how about "closer to swine"?  i can just see it now.

anyway based on what i saw on "muppets tonight" on friday, ig may want
to reconsider their enthusiasm to do the show.  i am very sad to
report that about 50% of the show was filled with very sexist humor.

for those of you who didn't see the show, michelle pfiffer (sp?) guest
stared and the running theme through the show was both miss piggy and
michelle were asked to guest star and a verbal catfight ensues.  i'll
leave out the "bay of pigswatch" sketch on the theory that is was
satire, but when you have muppets talking to michelle's breasts it
gets a little old.

anyway, the whole show was funny if you could get past the sexism (i
rolled at "great elvis' in history" [mercy!], the sight of bunsen
honeydew with hair, and the concept of "spamala anderson").  i
typically am not one to over react at these things.  if anyone else
saw the show, i'd be interested in hearing their opinions.

garth brooks is on next week.  i'm hoping for better.

                                -- chris

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 09:09:40 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      re: indigo girls and the muppets...(limited and silly igc)

at 11:56 am chris wrote:

>anyway based on what i saw on "muppets tonight" on friday, ig may want
>to reconsider their enthusiasm to do the show.  i am very sad to
>report that about 50% of the show was filled with very sexist humor.
>
>for those of you who didn't see the show, michelle pfiffer (sp?) guest
>stared and the running theme through the show was both miss piggy and
>michelle were asked to guest star and a verbal catfight ensues.  i'll
>leave out the "bay of pigswatch" sketch on the theory that is was
>satire, but when you have muppets talking to michelle's breasts it
>gets a little old.
*************
yikes, chris... maybe i retract my thumbs up about the girls doing a guest
spot. might even reconsider being excited about the return of the muppets
for my kids... sexism is instilled so easily +  early on impressionable
young minds. gee.
btw... i still think that closer to swine was a hilarious suggestion.
and, chris, did you notice that you wrote michelle pfiefer guest stared...
just a funny : )
peace... kim
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reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      re: muppet silly stuff

>btw, i think it'd be great if the girls did a guest spot on the muppet show
>too. perhaps they could do pig fears w miss piggy?.....

erm..how 'bout an "it's not easy being indigo"  - duet with robin the frog...

but seriously, i really love it when celebrities guest with the muppets -
best one i ever saw wasn't actually the muppet show but another jim henson
show which was all about music - can't remember the title as it must have
been about 6 years ago and only ran for one season over here.  anyway, in
the programme about the voice, joni mitchell was the guest - they gave
'night ride home' a very literal interpretation and had her out on a
romantic drive with the mad professor puppet - it was really funny!  i had
it on video for ages until i taped over it by accident one day :(

btw, tnx to everyone who wished me luck the other day - the gig went fine! -
fluffed a couple of notes in that darn thin line solo though - ho hum...

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************

seffy

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subject:      ig + muppets, just one more time : )

dare i suggest animal + the girls doing  beast complicated? or maybe w the
pigs in space cast doing  dr. strangepork fire....
forgive me... stressful day = humerous venting : )
"see" ya. kim
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 12:33:48 -0500
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organization: ecsd
subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )

all right how about:

touch me frog
kermit or thekiss
croaking  (you were only croaking...brother)
pushing ms. piggie to far

peace

dan perkins
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subject:      help!!!

hi there,

i am going crazy from ig - withdrawal....my ole provider up and left town
and i have missed out on an entire week of news...
please, if i have sent this to the wrong place please inform me as to where
i should send it in order to get updated...and back into the news....
my old address was:  imat39@mail.cyconx.com
my new address is :  imat39@mail.durham.net

i really hope this doesn't go out to everyone and if it does please accept
my most sincere apology!!!!

thank you

tami

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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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from:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      disgruntled post-er

this list has always seemed to be a comfortable environment to discuss
personal stories.  i have usually not been the one to post them, but have
read personal posts left by others - and have been touched my many.  i did
take one chance and posted a story that was a pinnacle point in my life.
unfortunately, i received a reply stating that my story was boring.   the
post-er then felt it necessary to make a comment about the company i work
for.

i did attempt to e-mail this person twice, but received no reply.  i'm not
even sure if the person was joking or not.  see for yourself.  at the
bottom of this message is jude's reply - plus my 2nd attempt to contact
them.

my point is to those folks out there who are deciding whether or not to
post a personal experience, you may not want to.  ig very often helps us
get through hard time, and this does seem like the place to share it.  but,
i'll never post anything of any personal content or experience anymore.

if you don't enjoy something someone posts, just don't reply.  why ruin
this place reserved for discussion of ig with senseless reply's like this
one.  jude, your post made this place a little bit less happy for me.

- jen hall

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hi jennifer hall@ts syscall2@cs hou:

the following message

        sent on: sunday, march 10, 1996 at 12:23:59 pm cst
        subject: re: re: converting to igism
        to: <jhunter@fdic.gov>

        text: are you being rude, or just joking??

plus, what's your deal with compaq??
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original text
from "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>, on 3/8/96 9:44 am:
to: <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>

>*tangent starts here -->*  [actually, it's my fault.  when i was in high
>school, i was in the jazz/rock band and i recorded one of our sessions so
i
>could practice at home.  i was so proud of how well we played, i played
the
>tape for my mom.  she said it sounded absolutely terrible and my guitar
>sounded so absolutely terrible - - it destroyed my dream of becoming a
>musical performer.  i dropped out of the band and never went back.  and do
>you know...she never did realize that i had dropped out??]

actually, jen, your mother story is pretty boring too.  but at least i
didn't
say it to the whole list....

jude :)

oh, well, i'll never own a compaq anyway....


has been relayed

        to: jhunter@fdic.gov
        via: twisto.compaq.com (at 131.168.114.12)


thank you.

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 11:57:29 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: disgruntled post-er

hey jen... i'm one member of this list who loves reading about other
people's success, failures and whatever else is big and happifying or
burdensome in their lives. it helps me get through my tough stuff, and gives
me a smile at times too ( when a happy experience, or funny one is relayed.)
don't let let a bad experience spoil that for you. share your special or
touching moments on here.... i joined the ig mailing list to read those very
things ( and of course to be in touch with other people who suffer from the
same form of indigo-itus that i do : ) )
happy posting!!!
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 16:05:00 pst
reply-to:     "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
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from:         "ryan, erica" <eryan@post.slc.edu>
subject:      ani d. and sara lee again

hey all, i just saw ani difranco again on saturday night in albany.  and
guess what, sara lee was still playing with her.  and guess what changed
since i saw them both together last?  well, sara had a microphone and sang
backup for almost the whole show!  it was strange for it to be three voices,
as opposed to just ani and andy(drummer extroadinare), but still, i was
impressed.  go sara!  everyone in the audience pretty much recognized her,
and was yelling for her.  thought you might be interested-
erica

"when i say you sucked my brain out, the english translation, is i am in
love with you, and it is no fun.  but i don't use words like love cuz words
like that don't matter, oh don't look so offended.  you know you should be
flattered."
ani difranco

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 13:26:21 -0800
reply-to:     rbsayre@interserv.com
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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      nigc- alpharetta, georgia???

hey ya'll
sorry for the bandwith...i was wondering if anyone out there's heard of/been
to/from alpharetta, georgia? as fate would have it, i may be relocating there
and just wanted to find out as much as i can beforehand. :)
thanks!!!
rick
(now playing: aimee mann/i'm with stupid)
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       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 14:16:01 -0800
reply-to:     victoria mazzone <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>
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from:         victoria mazzone <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>
subject:      re: iko iko (nigc i think)
x-to:         casey connor <chc1@cec.wustl.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960308140735.4131b-100000@clarion.cec.wustl.edu>

on fri, 8 mar 1996, casey connor wrote:

> > it's a traditional mardi gras song based on chants between mardi gras
> > "tribes."  who did the version on rain main?  it doesn't sound like
>
> i believe it was the belle stars. could be mightily wrong though...
>
> /~~ /~\ /~\ |~ \ /
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> \__ | | \_/ |_  |
>

actually, my favorite version of iko iko is the one from the soundtrack
of "satisfaction" the movie about the all-female band with justin
whats-her-name from family ties as the lead singer.


love n kisses, the philly kid

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 18:26:27 est
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      fan tour update 3/11/96

hello everyone.  i just wanted to post an update about the hotel arrangements
that i have put together for the new orleans jazz festival.  although, the
official deadline passed this friday, i have arranged a one week extension
for anyone that is interested in gettinga cheap hotel room in new orleans
between may 1-5.  there are still two individual spaces that i am trying to
fill so two wonderful ig fans can get accomodated.  if i don't have a
complete room, i cannot purchase it from the hotel.  two spaces mean an
entire bed in a room, so if you don't want to share a bed with another person
you can purchase two spaces and have a bed for yourself.  the cost of a room
is $132 per night and the cost of a space is $33 per person per night.  if
you are interested in getting a room or a space ina room, please contact me
asap.  you can e-mail me or call me at (908)418-0721.  talk to y'all soon.

let it grow

bert

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 18:35:42 -0500
reply-to:     janice marie denny <janice@udel.edu>
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from:         janice marie denny <janice@udel.edu>
subject:      df concert in alexandria tomorrow!!

hello there everyone!
i was wondering if anyone knows any info about the df concert tomorrow
night in alexandria! i really want to go, but don't know where
exactly it is...what time...etc..
so, if any of you know anything, please e-mail me privately!!!
thanks a lot!!!!!

-jan

janice@chopin.udel.edu

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 15:44:56 -0800
reply-to:     sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
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subject:      no

hi folks,

is there anyone who will be leaving no on sunday the 5th of may (the day after
the ig concert) who can give me a lift to austin, texas. i would be willing to
share the cost of the gas.

take care
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 18:07:34 -0600
reply-to:     jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
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from:         jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      love's recovery (late)

i was on break for love's recovery day so forgive the lateness of my
post.  i feel the need to get out another story that i have for the
girls songs.  this one is actually kind of cute.
well, anyways to stop babbling, my girlfriend of over a year (at the
time) came up to visit me at school.  we are not allowed to talk
because of her parents (she is still 17) and she had to sneak out to
chicago from ohio.  it was a feat in itself!  well, we were in my
dorm room cathching up and holding each other when she grabbed one of
my cd's and put it in.  she kneeled down on her knee and asked me to
dance.  it really was cute!  she played the song, love's recovery and
sang it to me as we danced.  she emphasized the end when emily sings
"i feel safe within the arms of love's discovery"  and told me how
much she loved me, and that she feels very safe and secure knowing
that i love her.
well, we are still together and it has almost been two years.  her
parents still hate me and we still have to sneak around, but she goes
to college next year and i am looking forward to that!
i just thoughgt that i would share that with y'all.  oh by the way,
thank you to all that responded to this morning's post, i will e-mail
you privately but thank you.  i am still sorting through all the mail
that i got last week.
by the way, can i get a moo or folkisgroovin shirt and be an honorary
member of no fest group even though i can't go?  i will wear the
t-shirt the day of the show and dream of meeting y'all.
well, moo for now!!!
jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i would
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 15:34:08 cst
reply-to:     jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      ig bitmaps for your computer

anyone interested in indigo girls bitmaps for your ibm-compatible pc?

i've got:

1200c cover
shot of amy in 1200c (flying in air w/ guitar)
shot of emily in 1200c (playing guitar)
blended both of the above pictures to just 1 bitmap
stage shot in 1200c
nis cover
rop cover
so cover
cover of three hits
cover of power of two
a few promo shots ( new pic's and old )

i take no credit of scanning this pictures in.  i grabbed them off various
web sites and have just converted them to *.bmp that work great in windows.

let me know if you want one.

- jen hall

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 17:48:42 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      s. jersey

i acn't believe i haven't brought this up before but anyone from the
philadelphia/south jersey area? thanks,
ben

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reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      finishing jcs

i was just checking up to see how the jcs projects are coming along:)
i think i should make a due date which i guess will be hmmmmmmm.....may
12...is that o.k.? if not mail me back and bitch at me. since i should be
back in jersey by then i should be able to make the final tape. so send
your tapes to
                  ben slavin
                 p.o. box 394
               chatsworth,n.j. 08019
but one thing- don't send them before this date or mom will get all these
tapes she won't know what to do with!
talk to you soon,
ben

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 16:47:02 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: love's recovery (late)

(nice story, btw, jennifer. it made me smile + think of when...)
anyway, jennifer wrote:
>by the way, can i get a moo or folkisgroovin shirt and be an honorary
>member of no fest group even though i can't go?  i will wear the
>t-shirt the day of the show and dream of meeting y'all.
********
i just want to add an "i want one too, can i get one, huh, can i?" or do we
just make our own????
peaceful moos to all 'o' yous,
kim.
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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 18:05:40 mst
reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      personal stories and nasty listers (migc)

hey jen! thanks for sharing your message with us...please reconsider sharing
your personal stories with the list, i personally love them, i loved your high
school band story, and the other many personal moments people have shared
with us....

i was confused...was it jude hunter that sent you that nasty message? or was
jude repsonding to it? jude has always been nice. i am very surprised if she didthat....maybe it was a bad day thing...
anyway, i apologize on behalf of all of us who see this list as a pseudo-
family as much as a diversion.

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 18:15:04 -0800
reply-to:     victoria mazzone <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>
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from:         victoria mazzone <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>
subject:      re: some kid fears, some rambling...
x-to:         "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01510100ad6641e27e8e@[192.200.128.69]>

on fri, 8 mar 1996, january simpson, esq. wrote:

>
> january simpson
> "don't sacrifice your self, you're all you've got."
>                 - janice joplin
>

yes!  another janis fan!   btw, it's janis, not janice. :)

january is a pretty name.  how did you discover janis?

love n kisses, the philly kid

ps -- oops i think this is going to the list.  i didn't mean it to.

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 21:28:47 -0500
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from:         "ann s. burke" <indigogwls@aol.com>
subject:      to jennifer

hi friends,

      i came home today from work and wondered, as i often do, if there was
any human kindness left to salvage in this world (a state of depression often
resolved with a little ig music:) jennifer, thank you for your posting. i had
to hide for almost a year....it's worth it! your words were refreshing and
appreciated. "power of two" and "love will come to you" are great, too.


       "a moment of peace is worth every war behind us."
                                              es


                                        annie

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 20:30:26 -0600
reply-to:     marci l windsheimer <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>
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from:         marci l windsheimer <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>
subject:      nigc:  cd recommendations
in-reply-to:  <199603111830.maa27977@access.texas.gov>

somebody asked which jane siberry cd to try..well, "when i was a boy" is a
good example of her range of styles (and features a duet with k.d. lang
that will make you cry).  "bound by the beauty" is charming, eloquent,
and occasionally hilarious.  those are the two you'll most likely be able
to find.

i would really urge all of you to give jane a listen; she's incredible
and i would think most ig fans will like her.  she's canadian, so her
discs can be hard to find, and you'll never hear her on the radio, but
she's worth tracking down.

peace,
marci <windshei@freenet.msp.mn.us>

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date:         mon, 11 mar 1996 20:39:41 -0600
reply-to:     sabrina chan <schan@owlnet.rice.edu>
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from:         sabrina chan <schan@owlnet.rice.edu>
subject:      catie curtis?

hi everyone....

i'm just delurking for a bit to ask about catie curtis a folk singer (? i
guess) from the northeast i think... i listened to a lot of her cd at a
barnes and noble listening booth, and found it really cool.  if i had had
money with me then i might have bought it, but seeing as i didn't... :(
anywyas, the point of this message is to ask if anyone else has heard of
her/has strong opinions about her music.  btw, she's playing here in
houston at a place near rice on thursday night (cool coincidence because
i was home in richmond, va when i visited that barnes and noble).
unfortunately i won't be able to go to the concert, i have to go to work...
thanks everyone.
sabrina

schan@rice.edu/rice '99/hanszen college/http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~schan
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dot in atlanta.  i thought it was okay, but not her strongest... oh well,
what do i know."  amy ray on emily's "closer to fine"

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subject:      hou day?

hi everyone!

so.... is it hou day or what?  if not, oh well, i'm going to talk about it
anyway :).   this wasn't one of my favorite songs when i first heard.  it
actually took a long time for me to really like it.  one day last fall i was
talking to my girlfriend who goes to school far away from where i am living
:(  and she started singing this song to me.  it was the  most beautiful
thing....   i already knew she had a beautiful voice, but this was even more
special.   well, anyway.... just wanted to share.   btw, jennifer (nice
name!),  that was a great story about you and your girlfiend.   i'm glad to
hear you're still together :)

jenny


"you gotta live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some
change"      ani difranco

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subject:      birthdays

hi everybody!  this is just a general request/greeting for newbies, etc. who
may want to be added to the birthday list.  please privately email the date
to me (year is optional) and on your birthday, i'll post a greeting to the
list.  suggestions are also welcome :)
tanks,
rachel :)

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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      romeo and juliet

so, i'm in the middle of working on a respondent brief for a tax claim and my mind started to wander.  i mean, how long can you work on a tax brief before this happens?  the answer is not too long.

maybe i am slow and my brain is clogged with tax law, but rj came over my cd player and the meaning of this song really hit me for the first time.

romeo and juliet were lovers who were not allowed to see each other because their families, the capulets and the montagues (if i remember correctly) were feuding.  furthermore, rj were not allowed to openly express their love for each other.  the society which they lived in did not accept their relationship. it hit me that this a direct parallel to gay/lesbian relationships.  families disallow them, love cannot be openly expressed, and society does not accept the relationship.

the parallels go on and on . . . but i have to get back to my brief.

alycia


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but the question drowns in its futility
and even i have got to laugh at me
cause no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride.
                                                - emily saliers

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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      re: hou day?
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hi y'all
   it's a sentimental day for some, i guess, and those sweet posts are
makin' me misty eyed :).  really nice.  anyway, i'm writing to talk about
hou.  wow.  you know em wrote this song after she graduated from college,
when she went on a family trip to europe.  i think it's so great the way
she assimilated what she saw into a song.  it's like she can see straight
through everything (everything refers to the many images she mentions in
the song) and get right to
the core of it and say "yeah, i know.  that's what i was thinking."  and
then she turns it into a song.  i can't believe some people think this
song is "boring" and skip over it; a lot of my friends say that.  anyway,
this song is special to me because last fall when em was at our guitar
master class thingy, she played it for us and it was the most beautiful
thing i'd ever heard.  there were about 30 of us in this building that is
the "sanctuary" for an existentialist congregation.  the electricity was
not working, so we had candles set up all over the room.  it was so
amazing.  that is one of those moments that define the word "beautiful"
to me.  i guess i'm having trouble expressing what i'm trying to
describe.  i had chills through that entire song, though.
  well, i've got to go; the brother yells...
  -julie

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        "life is a six lane highway and i am a frog."
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date:         sun, 10 mar 1996 23:25:13 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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subject:      disgruntled post-er

dear jennifer:

dont let jude's msg bother you.  maybe she's having a bad day.

pls keep posting any thoughts you might have; remember, if one person
loses trust, we all do.

melissa

ps i'm writing this note on a pentium 75 compaq 924 cds.  it works
great.

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from:         hac2@axe.humboldt.edu
subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
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these are great!!!!
when is the new mupet show on, and/or on what channel?

thanks.
heather

ps.  how about...
hammer and a tail  (sung by rizzo the rat)
cows fall (world falls)   ( by that news announcer dude who always has
                the cows dropping on his head)
chickenman  (no change required, just dedicate to gonzo!!!)
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        "to live is so startling, it leaves little time for anything else."
                                -emily dickinson
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on mon, 11 mar 1996, dan perkins wrote:

> all right how about:
>
> touch me frog
> kermit or thekiss
> croaking  (you were only croaking...brother)
> pushing ms. piggie to far
>
> peace
>
> dan perkins
> post episodic clairvoyant
> tour guide to the obvious
> '
> "it's not your job to be as confused as nigel"
>                                   -david st. hubins
> '
>                     "these go  up to eleven"
>                                    -nigel tufnel
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hello!  i found catie curtis last spring--just in time to hire her for a
gig at my school that i helped plan.  she was a total hit!  she was
really good, and i've heard that her cd is good, too, though i didn't buy
one.  and she's either from ma or ct, i forget which.

margaret


> date:    mon, 11 mar 1996 20:39:41 -0600
> from:    sabrina chan <schan@owlnet.rice.edu>
> subject: catie curtis?
>
> hi everyone....
>
> i'm just delurking for a bit to ask about catie curtis a folk singer (? i
> guess) from the northeast i think... i listened to a lot of her cd at a
> barnes and noble listening booth, and found it really cool.  if i had had
> money with me then i might have bought it, but seeing as i didn't... :(
> anywyas, the point of this message is to ask if anyone else has heard of
> her/has strong opinions about her music.  btw, she's playing here in
> houston at a place near rice on thursday night (cool coincidence because
> i was home in richmond, va when i visited that barnes and noble).
> unfortunately i won't be able to go to the concert, i have to go to work...
> thanks everyone.
> sabrina
>
> schan@rice.edu/rice '99/hanszen college/http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~schan
> -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
> "emily first played this song for me on the sidewalk in front of the white
> dot in atlanta.  i thought it was okay, but not her strongest... oh well,
> what do i know."  amy ray on emily's "closer to fine"

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 11 mar 1996

        i have been on this list for a long time - before it went kaput and
was redone and then redistributed.  music is my passion.  the indigo girls'
music has, over the last few years, made a significant impact on me. me, my
life, my thoughts, my friends. :)  heavy load, huh?  i don't post a lot -
last night was rather fun. moo! (and i am! going to wear a moo! shirt - i
don't care about the heckling - it'll be a kick)
        the luxury of friends and family who love me has been brought home
to me this week.  my mom had an unplanned surgery this last week; the result
of which was her first chemo tonight.  she'll be fine is the belief of all
involved, and she's the chief of the nurse anesthestists in her hospital, so
i tend to believe also. but... and there's always a but. made me think about
a few posts of late.
        this rather long epistle is to let y'all (i'm from texas - we
actually say that!) know that i do care.  but... (there it showed up again -
see?)  i am so tired of the disharmony of late.  really - does it matter if
jen expresses a few thoughts?  who gets hurt by that?  is it worth lashing
out and hurting someone's feelings - in this medium possibly someone totally
unknown? hmmm. (finger on cheek like arsensio used to do.) i don't feel this
way just because of mom - the bottle of cab sauv probably contributed.:) and
jen's posts are always interesting.
        i joined this list to hear where, when, and what the ig were
playing.  i don't care who they sleep with or don't; where they frequent for
entertainment on their personal time and jeez!! the rest?  don't
misunderstand - the music shreds me - i'd give away my other 200+ cds and
keep just 1200 curfews.
        god grant me the riches to be unknown!  imagine wanting to hang out
and listen to a favored musician and having people chase you from the get-go
to the get out!  aaghh! and i'm not a pro musician. and i do meet enough who
know me to make going out an ordeal. i love austin - it's 90 miles away from
irritation.
        the ig inspire a sort of devotion.  yes - i think moo! shirts will
be fun at the jazzfest.  no - i didn't wonder what to say (i've been asked
by four people as of this moment) when a or e asked what moo! meant?  like
they would!  here's one - mad, mad love for a reinked galileo howling moo!
at the stars.
        done.  thanks for listening.
yours almost truly,

karen

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hi ya'll!!

   sorry if i didn't get this posted last night, but on sat. i crashed my
system. horrors!!!!  i figured out how to get it up and running, so here is
this weeks list, but feel free to comment all week long, since i'm a little
late:


mon- history of us
tues-hammer and  a nail
wed- welcome me
thur-world falls
fri- southland in the springtime

it's really late now, so i just want to say that jen, i started to post a
supporting letter to you right before i screwed up the computer, so tomorrow
i'll try and redo it. wow you feel like you're empty when you're cut off from
the list!

angie in kansas city, missouri (that's where i am, amrit)

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subject:      nigc - mix tapes

hullo, all!
      okay.  here's my situation.  i have been making mixes for everyone on
earth, it seems, and i have very few mixes from other people... so, as
selfish as this may seem, this is a request for tapes.  i'll send blanks and
postage or a couple dollars to cover the cost of a blank and postage if
anyone out there wants to do this.  share your music, you know?  it can be
anything at all!  a personal best of indigo or nigc at all (kinda like this
post...) or all pakistani folk songs... whatever!  i just need something to
which to listen at work, and would love anything for all of you out there who
have a little extra time!  and music is such a great way to get to know other
people... babble, babble... or, i'll trade, but i don't have boots, so i
could make mixes in return... whatever!  sorry to have taken up everyone's
time, but i know that every, single, solitary one of you out there has good
taste, so i thought you were good people to ask! =)  thanks for reading, and
please e-mail me if you're willing to participate in my little scheme! =)
peace, love, and compilations, sarah

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from:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
subject:      h&an dayo

hey y'all
  happy "hammer and a nail" day.  this song was my methodist youth
group's theme song in the summer of 1991 (i think) when we went on a mission
project to gary, wv (i think).  it was the appalachian service project,
in which we worked on houses of the appalachian people who couldn't
afford to hire anyone to help them.  we built porches, put in plumbing,
cleared yards, replaced windows, etc etc etc.  i think h&an was the best
song choice for the whole experience, and i believe that after our group
shared that song that week, asp added h&an to the group of songs that they
teach the volunteers (there's always a lot of song-singing going on on
anything like that).  is this making sense? it was great not only to help
those people who needed help,  but also to get to share ig with
people who came from all over the us to work for asp.  had to
share...hope that didn't sound too cliche and cheezy and stuff, but if it
did, i don't wanna know......
  -julie

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subject:      my summer hammering nails

hiya!
      it's tuesday, technically... this isn't one of those deep and
meaningful posts, but i wanted to share a little story since i haven't added
anything to this thread (i'm still replying to things written on the 2nd of
march, so i'm a little behind the song a day thing.  i'm stuck in a slew of
ctf posts...) and i absolutely adore this song.  it reminds me of this
summer.  i had 2 part-time jobs, but had no hours, and found myself waking up
at three in the afternoon and becoming an internet junkie and getting all
depressed a lot because of my friends going off to school and such... so, to
give myself less time to think, i went out and got a third job... "gotta get
out of bed and get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my hands...not just
my head, i'll think myself in a jail..." and i was!  the more time i had on
my hands, the more incarcerated by my own thoughts i began to feel... i know
it's not the general connotation, but it's my .02.  thanks for listening! =)
peace, love, and carpentry, sarah

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my own feelings about lr aren't especially strong other than what i have
already posted, but it bears mentioning that i was asked to accompany a
friend of mine when she sang this at an art festival a few years back...i
played the music after two full days of coordinating the parking for
20,000 people and it was exactly what i needed at the time.  thanks,
emily (and also my friend xochi, who sang it).

--mike

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      byebye for the mo.

hi there everyone, it's me just saying a small goodbye for 10
days...it's going to be tough without y'all, but you'll all be there
when i get back, right?!  sorry to waste space, but i couldn't just
leave without saying farewell.

hope you all have fun over the next week or so and enjoy lots of cool
chats and friendships...i'll be counting the hours until i get back.

love helene

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subject:      neily's better!

as much as i think it's pretty tacky to post other people's private e-mail to
the list =>, just had to let y'all know that neily is feeling much better and
his tape is *on the way* :)

******************************************************************************
jude!!

(i resisted the temptation, really i did...)

hey :)
how goes it??

anyway, i'm back at school now, but with a lot of
catching up to do...sooooo....if it's still ok with
you i'll send you off those tapey things tomorrow :):)

and they'll take a week or so to get to you and that
will give me time to get my butt in gear and send you
the addresses of everyone who wanted a copy...

i hope this isn't going to schitz you out or be too
much, but what with all the classes i have to catch up
with...

anyway, like i said, if this is all ok then just
remind me of your address, and i'll get these beauties
off to you post-haste....

cheers luvvie (wait, i've been spending too much time
with my step-dad and his mum, who call everyone that..
must be a cornish thing...anyway...)
cheers luvvie :)

and take care :)

and watch out for that grand piano swinging scarily
precariously above you...

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hey julie, last night you wrote:
> last fall when em was at our guitar
>master class thingy, she played it for us and it was the most beautiful
>thing i'd ever heard.  there were about 30 of us in this building that is
>the "sanctuary" for an existentialist congregation.  the electricity was
>not working, so we had candles set up all over the room.  it was so
>amazing.  that is one of those moments that define the word "beautiful"
>to me.  i guess i'm having trouble expressing what i'm trying to
>describe.  i had chills through that entire song, though.
********
you expressed yourself very well. the experience came alive for me
in my mind. thanks for sharing.
peace + delicious chills by candlelight. kim.
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x-cc:         ahagon@st6000.sct.edu

happy birthday nadyne :))))))))))  a tuesday's child, at least for today!!!
"so we must love while these moments are still called today, take part in the
pain of this passion play..."

ahagon@st6000.sct.edu
"history of us"
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subject:      recommendations (nigc)

hi all-

one of my favorite singer/songwriters is a gal from my hometown here in
bloomington, in.  her name is carrie newcomer and she is so cool.  she has
three cd's on the rounder/philo label :  "visions and dreams", "an angel at
my shoulder", and "bird or the wing".      i don't know how easy/difficult it
is to find her stuff outside of this area, but if you can find it - give it a
listen cause you'll love her!!  :):)

jenny


"you gotta live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some
change"       ani difranco

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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      scrapbooks etc.

hi friends.

okay, the deadline for the book is going to be april 25, and that's because
of one sad fact: i amy not be able to go to no (flights are ridiculous
from co. and i am not sure if i can afford the trip) and i want to be able
to get the book to someone else who is going for sure to take with them

so! get your creative juices flowing! throw on your favorite ig cd, plop down
on the floor and start cuttin and pastin! i am so excited to see what you
all come up with!

my address again, for submissions:

susan marine
14 east cache la poudre
colorado springs, co 80903

please remember to keep the page down to 8.5' by 11" or smaller...and leave at
least a half inch on the left edge for binding.

take care and email me if questions! i will be willing to make copies of the
book for people...more on that later after i see how much response i actually
get.

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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>
> one of my favorite singer/songwriters is a gal from my hometown here in
> bloomington, in.  her name is carrie newcomer and she is so cool.  she has
> three cd's on the rounder/philo label :  "visions and dreams", "an angel at
> my shoulder", and "bird or the wing".      i don't know how easy/difficult it
> is to find her stuff outside of this area, but if you can find it - give it a
> listen cause you'll love her!!  :):)
>

i will heartily second this  recommendation.  carrie is wonderful...
rich voice, poignant songs and fun songs...great stage presence.,
you should be able to find rounder stuff easily (i know rdr carries
it) at most stores.  if they dont carry it, they can order it.
carrie should not be missed!

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
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the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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              processor" at mar 12, 96 01:18:05 pm

hey all,

considering it's nis week, can someone enlighten me on the cover of nis.i
know it was done by a local artist, but what is the sind ? that's written
across the bottom in red paint.

also wondering if somewhere there was a college class on ig. i've heard of
a class on pearl jam and madonna, why not ig. from all the interpretation
going on the list, it would seem appropriate.


"...it's awful quiet here since love fell asleep.."

                                sharon

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subject:      re: front cover nis

>know it was done by a local artist, but what is the sind ? that's written
>across the bottom in red paint.

"indigo girls indigo girls" is mirrored and written across the bottom of the
painting. what you are seeing is the mirrored end of the word "girls" followed
by the beginning of the next "indigo." the rest of what's written on it is
song lyrics from the album.

and now for my usual "multiple-topics-per-post-method" a friend just
introduced me to melissa ferrick the other day. i can't beleive i'd never
heard her before. (heard _of_ her, just never listened before) she totally
blew me away. incredible! i'm now in the process of looking for the time to
change my sig to include a mf quote. (don't look now, it's not there yet.)

oh, and teri! it's h&n day!!!! i dare you!! (just kidding, don't!) ;) ;)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

ps, in light of new legislation that is (now effective? coming soon?) and
prohibits the use profanity (and discussions about abortion??) in email, i
feel it is my civic duty to include the following in my message: (if you're
offended by profanity, stop reading now!)
fuck
shit
and...(drum roll please)...abortion.

there. i feel better now.

driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

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date:         tue, 12 mar 1996 15:09:49 -0500
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subject:      nigc- last chance! (i messed up the address last time...)

>okay, guys, i really am sorry if you've already gotten this once or are sick
>of hearing about it, but i just wanted to give everyone who hasn't replied
>one last chance to do so.  i won't be putting in the order for a few more
days,
>so if you're interested in ordering please write to me as soon as possible
if
>you haven't already.  the only reason i'm doing this is to make sure that
>everyone who wanted anything is going to get it, as i won't be doing
anything
>like this for quite some time, probably.  anyhow, e-mail any questions
and/or
>orders to me as soon as you can, okay?  again, sorry for taking up
everyone's
>time!  thank you kindly! =)  fare thee well, sarah
>
>in a message dated 96-02-16 04:42:13 est, sanawike1@aol.com (sarah wiegmann)
>writes:
>
>>hello out there!
>>      okay, you may all hate me for wasting your time with this, but with
>all
>>of this talk of bumper stickers, i have a catalogue af them right here in
my
>>lap.  these people not only will make personalized stickers, t-shirts, and
>>buttons, (so if the list had any ideas i could get more info) but have a
>huge
>>variety of them on sale, and i thought i'd list the stickers available and
>>see who'd like to order.  there are quantity discounts and such, so i'll
set
>>the price at $1.25 (us) each, or $1.00 (us) each if you are ordering three
>or
>>more, which covers postage for the catalogue plus the postage to your
house.
>> if you're in another country, i'd really appreiate it if you could send us
>>funds, and i really don't care much about the extra postage.  the price
>>remains the same.  if you're interested in any, please e-mail me with a
list
>>of what you want and i'll give you my home address and ask that you
pre-pay,
>>for i cannot afford all of these on my own, especially if people forget
that
>>they ordered and such... (i've done that before.  i ended up with a bunch
of
>>stuff i didn't want and was out about forty dollars in the end.)  i swear
>>that i'll actually order, not just steal your money or something!  you'll
>all
>>know where iive!  well-disguised cash works for me, unless you're not comfy
>>with that, in which case money orders and checks are okay.  i will send a
>due
>>date for funds in my reply to your message.  please use the subject title
>>"decals", as it will avoid confusion with the current bumper sticker
>>thread... also, there are many tee shirts and posters relative to some of
>the
>>stickers (at reasonable prices) and many buttons, which, if ordered, will
be
>>$1.00 each including postage.  if interested in any of the above, give me a
>>theme or two, and i'll send you a list of what i can get.)  i can send your
>>addresses in to the company to request catalogues, too, if you'd like.
>> please tell me in your reply if you'd like more info on any of that.
>> anyhow, happy shopping, and please e-mail by the 25th of february, as i'd
>>like to get this order thing done soon.  thanks, sarah
>>
>>bumper stickers:
>>
>>1  question authority
>>2  children are people too
>>3  uppity women unite
>>4  every mother is a working mother
>>5  sexism is a social disease
>>6  keep your laws off my body
>>7  god is coming and is she pissed
>>8  minds are like parachutes- they only function when open
>>9  you can't hug a child with nuclear arms
>>
>>(i'm going to quit capitalizing.  too many on the list to take the time!)
>>
>>10  join the army-travel to exotic, distant lands; meet exciting, unusual
>>people and kill           them
>>11  live simply so that others may simply live
>>12  save the humans
>>13  give peace a chance
>>14  no one is free when others are opressed
>>15  a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle
>>16  visualise world peace
>>17  you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war (w/ einstein
>>picture)
>>18  love your mother (w/ earth picture)
>>19  women are great leaders - you're following one
>>20  stop treating our soil like dirt
>>21  think globally - act locally
>>22  meat is dead
>>23  it will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need and
>>the air force        has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber
>>24  kill your television
>>25  listen to women - for a change
>>26  lobotomies for republicans - it's the law
>>27  why be normal? (4 1/2" x 6")
>>28  pro choice and proud of it
>>29  pro choice/pro child
>>30  i'm pro-choice and i vote
>>31  come out, come out, wherever you are
>>32  honk if you're codependent
>>33  i love my country - but fear my government
>>34  save endangered species (w/ tiger)
>>35  paper from paper - not trees
>>36  wild women don't get the blues
>>37  against abortion?  dont have one.
>>
>>(too hard to break the habit of uppercase letters...)
>>
>>38  free leonard peltier ("bury my heart..." =)  see, there _is_ igc! =))
>>39  thelma and louise live
>>40  homophobia is a social disease
>>41  happy childhoods last a lifetime... prevent child abuse
>>42  invest in america... buy a congressman
>>43  dare to keep the cia off drugs
>>44  the earth doesn't belong to us, we belong to the earth
>>45  if you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a baby?
>>46  just say no to sex with pro-lifers
>>47  fight racism
>>48  conciousness now
>>49  self righteousness.  the unforgivable sin.
>>50  hatred is not a family value.
>>51  compost happens
>>52  commit random acts of kindnass and senseless beauty
>>53  my other car is a broom
>>54  humans aren't the only species on earth- we just act like it
>>55  politicians and diapers need to be changed- often for the same reason
>>56  it's never ok to hit a child
>>57  support organic farmers
>>58  free tibet
>>59  rush is reich
>>60  courtesy is contagious
>>61  feminism is the radical notion that women are people
>>62  straight but not narrow
>>63  heart attacks... god's revenge for eating his animal friends
>>64  under republicans, man exploited man.  under democrats, it's just the
>>opposite.
>>65  oink if you (graphic of a heart) rush
>>66  bandage (for your car's owies)
>>67  visualize whirled peas
>>68  if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will shoot their kids accidentally
>>69  i'm the nra (w/ graphic)
>>70  if you feel attacked by feminism, it's probably a counter attack
>>71  start seeing bicycles
>>72  who owns you?
>>73  born again pagan
>>74  hang up and drive
>>75  honor treaty rights
>>76  celebrate diversity
>>77  television is drugs
>>78  the arts are not a luxury
>>79  mend your fuelish ways
>>80  overpopulation... too much of a good thing
>>81  flush rush
>>82  i support breast cancer research
>>83  fight prime time, read a book
>>84  have you been limbaughtomized?
>>85  pc: just the latest smokescreen from the radical right
>>86  they're not hot flashes... they're power surges
>>
>>(geez!  how much more can i possibly type, here?)
>>
>>87  friends don't let friends vote republican
>>88  mean people suck
>>89  guns don't kill people, radical pro-lifers kill people
>>90  visualise using your turn signals
>>91  newt happens
>>92  if christ is the answer, what was the question?
>>93  my karma ran over your dogma
>>94  dare to think for yourself
>>95  god, protect me from your followers
>>96  i believe ruch limbaugh... 2 + 2 = 5
>>97  will be president for food
>>98  the media are only as liberal as the conservative businesses that own
>>them
>>99  defend the last stand - america's ancient forest
>>100  ufo's are real - the air force doesn't exist
>>101  livable wages make cents
>>102  mend your fuelish ways (bike size - 1.5" x 7")
>>103  if rush is right, i'll take what's left
>>104  i think, therefore i don't listen to rush limbaugh
>>105  jesus was a liberal
>>106  jesus is coming, look busy
>>107  question reality
>>108  more jobs?  what about less people?
>>109  plants & animals disappear to make room for your fat ass
>>110  the hole in the ozone is directly related to the hole in your head
>>111  the road to hell is paved with republicans
>>112  empty the prisons, make room for congress
>>113  equal rights are not special rights
>>114  come the rapture - can i have your car?
>>115  my goddess gave birth to your god
>>116  currently training to avoid a mid-life crisis
>>117  towanda! (i have this funny feeling that someone out there might like
>>this one...)
>>118  be kind to animals - don't eat them
>>119  vegetarians taste better
>>120  you can have my gun when you pry it from my paranoid, mentally
>>disturbed,        physically abusive, cold, dead hand.
>>121  who took the fun out of fundamentalists?
>>122  don't postpone joy
>>123  (good song! =)) children should be seen and heard and... believed
>>124  dare to keep cops off donuts
>>125  darwin (fish with legs graphic)
>>126  thank you for pot smoking
>>127  i think you left the stove on
>>
>>wow, are my fingers numb!  i take no responsibility for some of the
>attitudes
>>expressed in the above... i was only quoting.
>>
>>also, if anyone's interested, there are "static cling stickers" that aren't
>>sticky, but will cling to the inside of windows and can be moved around.
>> they will be $1.50 (us) or $1.25 (us) each if you want more than one.
>> they're all 3" in diameter.
>>
>>1  rainbow triangle
>>2  pink triangle
>>3  black triangle
>>4  women's symbol
>>5  venus of willendorf
>>6  peace sign
>>
>>also, for $1.25, (again, us) there are plain, rectangular rainbow flag
>>stickers.  2 3/4" x 4 1/2"
>>
>>many available items, so i urge everyone to get the catalogue if you want
>>more than what i mentioned, but i think it will be easier for all concerned
>>(except for me!) to do it this way.  quantity dicounts and all.  i don't
>>really stand to make a profit, if you're worried; i just wanted to get the
>>discount!  i figured out the postage and all of that, so it's better for
all
>>of you who wouldn't normally be ordering more than 100 of 'em yourselves...
>> anyhow, mail promptly, so we can get this show on the road and our cars
>(and
>>bodies and walls) decorated! =)  wishing you all sunrays and saturdays,
>sarah
>
>

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date:         tue, 12 mar 1996 15:58:17 est
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comments:     resent-from: anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
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from:         anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      recommendations (nigc)

actually, carrie newcomer is originally from elkhart, in and lived in
lafayette for quite afew years.  i first heard her as a solo act in
the early 80s.  she performed with a group called stone soup (they
have 2 albums out) and was working solo again before she moved south
to bloomington.  she will be playing at the long center in lafayette
on march 23rd.  tickets available at von's for $8.  you should go if
you can.

anna whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu
----------------------------original message----------------------------
hi all-

one of my favorite singer/songwriters is a gal from my hometown here in
bloomington, in.  her name is carrie newcomer and she is so cool.  she has
three cd's on the rounder/philo label :  "visions and dreams", "an angel at
my shoulder", and "bird or the wing".      i don't know how easy/difficult it
is to find her stuff outside of this area, but if you can find it - give it a
listen cause you'll love her!!  :):)

jenny

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date:         tue, 12 mar 1996 13:56:06 -0800
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subject:      re: happy birthday!!! (march 12, 1996)
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indeed, happy bday nadyne!
i am curious.  this question may have been addressed eons before i joined
this list.  it also might be answered on this list's faqs but i couldn't
pull them up.  does the "tuesday's child" refer to the old poem, goes
something like "monday's child is fair of face, tuesday's child is full
of grace,..."??? i know it was the girls' first song together, but i
don't know the lyrics to the song, so....what's the story?  did i guess
right??--gwen

on tue, 12 mar 1996 mtngrl6@aol.com wrote:

> happy birthday nadyne :))))))))))  a tuesday's child, at least for today!!!
> "so we must love while these moments are still called today, take part in the
> pain of this passion play..."
>
>
>
>
>
> ahagon@st6000.sct.edu
> "history of us"
>  * :) *
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subject:      center stage

so !
here i wait, patiently, for center stage day to roll around so
i can find out just what the hell that song is about and there is a total
of one post regarding that oh so complex and full of obscure metaphors
song !!!!!! weeeell.... i don't think so missy ! you all had just better
forget about han day and get to work writing brilliant dissertations
on center stage. why ? because i say so ! :) ha !
now get to it ! :)
love,
claire ( love your hair, hope you win !)
forgive my outburst, but i just got back from a weekend
where i was trapped in a hotel room with a bunch of drunken,
chain smoking queens (it was fabulous !).

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subject:      re: front cover nis
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on tue, 12 mar 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

>
> and now for my usual "multiple-topics-per-post-method" a friend just
> introduced me to melissa ferrick the other day. i can't beleive i'd never
> heard her before. (heard _of_ her, just never listened before) she totally
> blew me away. incredible! i'm now in the process of looking for the time to
> change my sig to include a mf quote. (don't look now, it's not there yet.)
>

can you give a description of her music, her sound?  thanks in advance.

love n kisses, the philly kid

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from:         "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      gotta get outa bed...

well, i'll be the first to admit that i don't have any deep or full o' love
stories about this song, but it is very important to me...this is just one
of those tunes that makes me smile and know that all is good in the world
(or at least the bad won't be around forever).  also, it reminds me a lot
of my best friend from home, who i don't get to see very much now that
we're both at college and have breaks at different times.  one of our
favorite things to do when we get together is to grab a handful of ig
tapes, get in the car, and drive.  we don't know where we're going, or
really how to get back -- one day we drove to crumb, wv without quite
meaning to -- but we always have a good time singing at the top of our
lungs and just sharing every moment we can together...whenever i hear this
song, or watershed, it just reminds me of how the two of us just let loose
around each other (bad pitch and all) and the feeling of freedom i get when
we hit the road for the hell of it...
just some random thoughts...
peace,

january simpson

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                        everyone must learn this lesson somewhere;
                          that it costs something to be what you are

        "i'm just a mirror of a mirror of myself; all the things that i do..."
                                -emily saliers, "least complicated"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++

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subject:      re: gotta get outa bed...
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yeah, my only thoughts on this song are of the time a month or so ago
when i volunteered for habitat for a day out here in sacramento.  great
fun, but it's been almost constantly raining here since then so i haven't
been going out as much.

i am still looking for a way to use a hammer and a nail (in the
proverbial sense) to do some practical good.  this academic stuff is
wearing after a while...

--mike

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subject:      re: front cover nis
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on tue, 12 mar 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

> oh, and teri! it's h&n day!!!! i dare you!! (just kidding, don't!) ;) ;)
        no...i don't think so you depraved lunatic!!!


        but to comment on the recent legislation lorindigo pointed out in
her multiple topic message, i feel the need to speak up for all
pro-lifers, because at one point or another, someone must have wanted to
say...

>(if you're offended by profanity, stop reading now!)

fuck abortion...

        not that i'm pro-life...i just believe in the freedom of speech.

big brother is watching you!!
teri

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subject:      re: front cover nis

>big brother is watching you!!


that's right, so either thumb your nose at him or flip him off!!

january simpson

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                        everyone must learn this lesson somewhere;
                          that it costs something to be what you are

        "i'm just a mirror of a mirror of myself; all the things that i do..."
                                -emily saliers, "least complicated"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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when i was in high school , a group of kids from my church would go to
maine to help work on battered houses and make repairs for people who
couldn't afford it.  it was one of the most incredible experiences of my
life.  this song always makes me think of thoses days.  we used to
play it at full blast, annoying the hell out of some people, but the
rest of us would start dancing up on the rooftops.  there's nothing like
being up on a roof.  i highly reccomend the experience to anybody who
has a chance!! -krista

        but my life is more than a vision.  the sweetest part is
        acting after making a decision.  i started seeing the whole
        as a sum of its parts.


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subject:      melissa ferrick (nigc)

lorinda,
i just read that you were turned on to melissa ferrick.  i bought
both of her albums after reading about her in the advocate.  she is
an incredible singer and she has a very strong voice.  you must know
this if you like her.  if you only have one of the albums, i
encourage you to get the second.
to all...melissa ferrick is a great singer.  if you haven't heard any
of her stuff, and are looking to find some new music, she's great.
she has a lot of drive.  she has been compared to melissa etheridge,
but personally, i don't see any resemblence.
just my .02

jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

"i am the one who makes you want me, i am the one who makes you need
me, i am the one who lets you decieve me, now get down on your knees
and please me" -melissa ferrick

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subject:      re: melissa ferrick (nigc)
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i totally agree with jennifer! melissa ferrick rocks!! i've been listening to
her since she was featured in interview magazine (never lets me down by the way,
every cd i've bought unheard on their word is excellent!- liz phair, eve's
plumb, me'shell ndegeocello...)
oddly enough i always recommend her first album, "massive blur" if only because
"honest eyes" is like, one of my favorite songs ever, ever, ever!
:) but "willing to wait" is excellent as well.
just never, never refer to her as "the other melissa" in my earshot. :p
when i first joined the list there was someone who told me that melissa's
shopping for a new label & working on another album that would have an even
harder edge to it!
:)
rick

on tue, 12 mar 1996, jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu> wrote:
>lorinda,
>i just read that you were turned on to melissa ferrick.  i bought
>both of her albums after reading about her in the advocate.  she is
>an incredible singer and she has a very strong voice.  you must know
>this if you like her.  if you only have one of the albums, i
>encourage you to get the second.
>to all...melissa ferrick is a great singer.  if you haven't heard any
>of her stuff, and are looking to find some new music, she's great.
>she has a lot of drive.  she has been compared to melissa etheridge,
>but personally, i don't see any resemblence.
>just my .02
>
>jj in chicago
>"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
>have two of the same to live" -emily sailers
>
>"i am the one who makes you want me, i am the one who makes you need
>me, i am the one who lets you decieve me, now get down on your knees
>and please me" -melissa ferrick
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date:         tue, 12 mar 1996 20:05:20 -0500
reply-to:     anne haines <ahaines@indiana.edu>
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from:         anne haines <ahaines@indiana.edu>
subject:      carrie newcomer (mostly nigc)

i love that *several* people have piped up to rave about carrie newcomer!
i've been listening to her for years and years, since her days in stone
soup, and i agree that she is just wonderful and everybody should buy all
of her cd's immediately. she's also a very sweet person, judging from the
couple of times i've met her briefly, and her company windchime
productions does a *lot* of work to bring excellent folk/acoustic artists
to bloomington.

anyway, what i wanted to say is-- for those of you who already listen to
carrie-- don't you think her song "playing with matches" (on angel at my
shoulder) would be an *incredible* song for ig's to cover? i'd... well,
i'd swoon, i guess.

anne in indiana
(who hardly ever posts on this list 'cause she can hardly ever keep up
with this list!)

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reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      nigc melissa ferrick

wow, is all i can say when i think of melissa ferrick.  my radio station
at home (97x, oxford, ohio, from the movie _rain man_)  was playing her
single on the radio called "i am done" off of _willing to wait_  and i
just fell in love with the song.

i drove to cincinnati to see her.  there was a small crowd and
just melissa and her base player, marika tjelios.  the two of them absolutely
blew me away!!!!  melissa's hands move so fast up and down the neck of her
guitar -  i was absolutely amazed.  she has so much energy and power.  i met
melissa afterwards, talked to her for a while and had her sign her new cd.
she was really a great person and extremely humble.

atlantic dropped her from the label earlier this year.  she is mostly playing
in la, but if she hits the road, go; no, run to see her.

glad to see that other list members have discovered melissa ferrick.

alycia

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just holding on for the ride.
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date:         tue, 12 mar 1996 20:38:32 -0500
reply-to:     punky brewster <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         punky brewster <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      another curious question....

do amy and/or emily smoke cigarettes?  i thought someone told me that amy
did, but another friend of mine wasn't sure if it was just amy or her and em.
just curious....  as a voice student i try not to... but....  well, i'm
down to a couple (or less) a week.  (not packs, individual cigarettes)
ok..  thanks, guys.
-mandy

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from:         mindigo <holleys@uamont.edu>
subject:      triangle shirt factory followup

sorry this is a few days late, but i've been afc and trying to catch up..
the 1911 fire in which many women died either from the fire or jumping out
the windows(a few survived this) brought as its most significant reform
the mandatory consrtuction of outside fire escapes onto building above "x"
number of stories. sorry i can't remember the number. just thought i'd
share. i remember being very disturbed by this episode in american history.
and i think it was in chicago..

just one of the girls,
mindigo
(mindy holley) <holleys@uamont.edu>

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reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      nigc:  abusive gay relationships

need some help for a paper...

        i'm writing a paper for my criminal justice class about battering
in gay relationships, a topic that hasn't really been fully researched by
sociologists and such.

        so for those of youout there who identify as either a gay man or
woman, i was wondering what your views are.  do you see partner abuse as
a prevalent problem amongst the community?  what do you foresee as some
of the problems that gay victims may encounter (mostly concerning the
police and such legal institutions).

        i don't want listmembers to think that i think all ig fans are
gay (sherlyn's survey took care of that myth), but you guys are like
friends...plus, this is cheaper than doing a phone interview (most of my
gay friends live out of town, in a land farfar away) and easier to quote
from (not that names will be included in my paper).  so if anyone could
help, it would be much appreciated!!!

        email me privately.  i understand the confidentiality of this
type of topic, whether you're telling me your opinions or experiences.

thanks ahead of time,
teri

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subject:      re: another curious question....
x-to:         punky brewster <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960312203532.15429a-100000@numen.elon.edu>

amy used to smoke, but she hasn't in over 8 months.  i don't know about
em, but it would surprize me if she does...
  -julie

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on tue, 12 mar 1996, punky brewster wrote:

> do amy and/or emily smoke cigarettes?  i thought someone told me that amy
> did, but another friend of mine wasn't sure if it was just amy or her and em.
> just curious....  as a voice student i try not to... but....  well, i'm
> down to a couple (or less) a week.  (not packs, individual cigarettes)
> ok..  thanks, guys.
> -mandy
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
in-reply-to:  <199603120601.baa14777@netspace.org>

        this is one of the most intriguing and funnest (i'm making it a
word!!!)  that i've seen on this list.  and you know what?  we should
email either russell carter or jim henson's son (who directs the show
now) and see if amy and emily would and could do "muppets tonight".

        however, i'm not too sure of the muppet translaton of
"chickenman"..."dead dogs on the highway" --- are any of us truly
prepared to see dear old piano playing rolf as roadkill on i-5??????  and
what lady would or could be beaten by a stranger?  perhaps those critics
on the balcony (statler and what's his name???).  :)

ccsbzzz,
turkey

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subject:      birthday query
x-cc:         std_951@rachel.chatham.edu, aruscin@envirolink.org

hey y'all, i was going through the bday list and i found these without their
dates :(  if anyone recognizes these as their addresses, please  mail the
dates to me again.  sorry for the mix up!

std_951@rachel.chatham.edu ( ailecia)
aruscin@envirolink.org

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subject:      birthdays

hi y'all, i've just finished sorting (human and computer) through 10 pages of
double and single spaced text of the birthday list and, to my dismay, i found
two birthdays that were either overlooked or were sent to me after the fact,
i have a sneaking suspicion that they were lost...my sincerest apologies to
connie (tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu)  march 2nd, and christina
(cls410@lulu.acns.nwu.edu) march 9th.

i've devised a new tracking system that is easier for me to use and that has
a double safeguard.  the only thing i am requesting is that when y'all send
your dates to me, please spell out the month (ex:  march 12, 1996). thanks in
advance!
b4n, rachel :]

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subject:      hammer and a nail day

i, too, have stories of how this song became a theme for lots of
the community service work i do with teenagers (i'm employed by
a church), but i thought i'd share a different story about this
song.  it concerns the very first time i saw the girls perform (and
perform this song) live.  i've been following them since '89, and
missed them the first few times they came through seattle because
of my work schedule.  then came oct. of '90, they were doing a
show, and i could go!  got tickets!  couldn't wait!  then!  i saw
in the paper that they would be doing an in-store appearance at a
record store to sign stuff, so i went down an hour early with my
cds and waited.  after an hour, i felt a bump on my elbow, heard
someone say "excuse me" and turned to see emily and amy pushing
through the crowd with their guitars (emily & guitar had been
the source of the bump).  they stood up on two chairs and began to
play (no mics?!).  i'd heard han the week before, loved it, and
now here they were six feet away playing it.  i watched emily
play (so i could learn it later)---what a guitar lesson!

then they sang mona lisas and mad hatters, and got down to sign
autographs.  they were soooooo surprised to see so many people,
and announced that they would stay until everyone had an
autograph.

i don't know if they do in-store things anymore (anybody know?),
because they've gotten so popular that they'd be there for days.
it was fun while it lasted!  they were soooo nice!

i always think of that day when i hear the song!

ann

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subject:      ca.listparty

hi!!!  another waste of bandwidth...

        i'm composing a list of folks who want to attend a california
ig list party.  if anyone's new to this thing and hasn't heard of it,
please email me privately so i can get the necc. info out to ya!

        sorry for taking up space...

teri

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reply-to:     rich kimball <rich@counterp.moldova.su>
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organization: counterpart moldova

so here i sit in the country of moldova, and wonder can i get info. on
the indigo girls way out here?

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date:         wed, 13 mar 1996 09:32:17 -0500
reply-to:     "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
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from:         "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
organization: southern college of technology
subject:      hammer and a nail . . .

okay, i know it's wednesday, but yesterday *sucked*, so i'm just gonna
hold over haan for me.  call me selfish. ;)

my best memory of hammer and a nail comes from my freshman year in
college.  an old friend and i were at the same school {his name is al}.
we had experimented with dating our senior year, it just didn't work out
right, but we were still the best of friends.  well, one sunday
afternoon, we were headed back from owosso to alma {this is in michigan,
they're both *really* tiny towns, so don't worry that you don't know the
names}, and just as i was about to hop off the freeway, he looks at me
and says "you know nad, i don't want to go back yet."  well, neither did
i.  so, we kept driving.  and driving.  i figured that we would get to
mt. pleasant {15-20 miles north of alma}, *maybe* clare {hourish north of
alma}.  nope.  we got to the mackinaw bridge that night!  the whole way
there, listening to tunes: they might be giants {"we can't be silent
'cause they might be giants and what are we gonna do unless they are!"},
wally pleasant {*highly* recommended if you're in a funny mood sometime
-- and rainy day has all 3 of his albums! :) }, and the inevitable ig.  i
had nis on me on cassette, and popped that in.  both of us, driving north
for no apparent reason other than we didn't quite want to get back to the
drudgery of school yet, and singing hammer and a nail at the top of our
lungs.  that's probably my best memory from my time at alma college.
but, of course, both al and i *hated* alma, so our sophomore year he
transferred to michigan state, and i transferred to southern tech here in
marietta last fall.

well, all, thanks for listening this long . . . i realise that this got a
bit protracted, but this has been the highlight of the past 24 hrs for
me.  {heh, let's see: 1) my *parents* forgot my bday.  2) my fiance had
to go to athens, ga, yesterday, and didn't get back until well after
10pm, and hadn't had the time to go out shopping, promises to do it
later, but *did* manage to pick up watershed for me. :)  3) just as a
point of reference, spending your bday home alone *sucks*.  gives you
enough time to sit around and remember all the past bad ones that have
been forgotten too, etc.  i might switch religions just so i *can't*
celebrate the bloody thing. ;) }

okay, okay, enough bitching for now.  y'all have probably deleted by now
anyway.  if you're still here, all i can say is thanks for listening. :)

nadyne.

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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )

picture this: a darkened theatre... the girls on stage - half in light, half
in shadow... miss piggy and kermit are sitting quietly in the wings.....
the girls begin to play, and it goes something like this :        : )
power of snoots.
now the theatre is empty,
everyone's gone someplace,
i pick you up ( kermit struggling here,  : ) lifts miss piggy in his oh so
muscular arms + carries her to his car)
and in the trunk i've packed a cooler
and a two day suitcase ( wedged into the trunk, and so big that the hood
cannot be closed is a huge travel trunk bursting at the seams w clothes
(after all, this is miss piggy, and it's a whole 2 days.... : )  )
.......
: ) well, i could probably go on + on relaying the imaginings of my troubled
mind, but i wont subject you all to that....
ducking + running for cover, i....
kim.
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from:         jen kuiper <gryphon@shadow.net>
subject:      re: another curious question....
x-to:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>

>amy used to smoke, but she hasn't in over 8 months.  i don't know about
>em, but it would surprize me if she does...

i read/saw and interview somewhere where the interviewer asked emily
about her voice, something about it seeming to have gotten higher. i
believe that she replied that she'd stopped smoking... ;-)

jen


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subject:      reverse 1 - live

hey y'all. i was wondering if any of you have heard of a rare-ish ig cd
called reverse 1-live. the actual cd is dark blue w/ everything written
in reverse(so if you look at it in a mirror, it is the right way) i
bought it used at a cd show for 15- but some guy had it sealed for $80! i
was just wondering if y'all knew anything about it. it has 9 songs from
the ig album(self-titled) ok- i'm rambling, i know- i'm really good at
that:) see ya later- love, katie ><}}}">

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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      (some igc) bye for now!

hi folks, (ru gruven?)

- only just worked out what folkisgruven means - thought it was some sort of
nordic signature - silly me!

this is my last post for a week as we're off for a long weekend in amsterdam
*big-grin*  so, apologies if anyone is trying to reach me about tapes etc. -
i'll get back to you when i return and wade through the digest!  looking
forward to meeting a couple of dutch listies while we're over there, and
we're going to see joan armatrading play too.   can't wait!

had a bit of an indigo-fest over last couple of days thanks to various tapes
arriving all at once.  i've seen latul and heard purple parrot for the first
time! (who gave emily a hug every time she dropped her pick?)  but better
than these, as if they weren't enough, i've acquired a boot (thanks bill!)
of the first ig show i went to, at the town & country club in london in
1993.  i've been so busy and mega-stressed all week trying to tie up a
hundred loose ends before having time off, and my staff must have thought i
was mad 'cos i was sitting here yesterday trying to stop my face from
breaking into a blissful grin, with a lump in my throat and finding it hard
to keep myself from singing out loud!!!  the part where joan baez guests
with them on the water is wide and welcome me... oh wow - turned me into a
pool of jelly sitting in a swivel chair - and then down by the river
started... i had to turn it off and do some work!! once again, a&e help me
hang onto sanity!

oh well, better set this list to digest and go home!

take care y'all!

*************
jelly
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
x-to:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
in-reply-to:  <9603130803.aa21187@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca>

aarrgghh...n more muppets imitating ig, please!!

that is, no more.

--mike

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subject:      re: hammer and nail
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on tue, 12 mar 1996, krista l. haley wrote:

>
>         but my life is more than a vision.  the sweetest part is
>         acting after making a decision.  i started seeing the whole
>         as a sum of its parts.
>


okay, here's me 2 cents:

5 years ago, i broke up with my live-in boyfriend of 5 years.  but it was
a very difficult decision, and i agonized over it (actually, watershed
was the song i listened to a lot then . . "staring at a fork in the road
. . you can sit there and agonize, til your agony's your heaviest load")
-- but h&n was real important too -- especially the quote above
"the sweetest part is acting after making a decision."  i remember coming
home from the store late one night, listening to that song (and that line),
and the next day i got up the courage to tell him, "it's over."

it was not an easy thing or an easy time for me, but it turned out to be
the best thing all the way around.  after we broke up, i moved out a
little while after that, and then a month later, got a really wonderful
new man in my life, who happened to be an indigo girls fan too.  we'll be
married 3 years july 18, 1996. :) :) :)

love n kisses, the philly kid

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subject:      welcome me

          when i first saw that today was wm day this story popped in
          to my mind and i thought i would share.  a friend and i went
          hiking out by his house one day (fairly deep forest, i was
          lost).  we got to a stopping point and sat down on a fallen
          tree, that had fallen across a creek, to rest.  all of the
          sudden i felt possessed and started to sing wm.  he joined
          in and i am sure that if anyone heard us they would have
          thought that 1)we were escaped from an asylum and 2)that we
          sound worse than a cat fight.  it was somehow fitting
          though, and we both said that we must do it again this
          summer.  this time we have to take a pitch pipe though.
          think warm thoughts, rich

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subject:      t-shirts and melissa ferrick (nigc)

>i just read that you were turned on to melissa ferrick.  i bought
well yes, so to speak...

>to all...melissa ferrick is a great singer.  if you haven't heard any
>of her stuff, and are looking to find some new music, she's great.
>she has a lot of drive.  she has been compared to melissa etheridge,
>but personally, i don't see any resemblence.

melissa??? no, i don't think so. they must have meant to compare her to ani
defranco and they just spelled it wrong. i see _definite_ shades of ani in
her, both vocally, and lyrically. of for anyone who cares, my new sig file now
contains a ferrick quote...hmmmm, i'm just wondering if i spelled her name
right in the sig. oh well, we'll see. :)

and i had a thought last night about the t-shirts y'all want to make to meet
up at no. there has been some talk about whether they should say "moo" or
"folkisgruven." well, how about "folkismooven."? (ha! i just crack myself up
sometimes!) :) :)

folkismooven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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subject:      jen hall, please

hi jen! i tried to email you privately but your address is way long
and i kept screwing it up.
anyways, could you fax me the order form and thingy from the fan club
for merchandise? and is the address the ponce de leon avenue one that i
have?

my fax number is (719) 389-7258

thanks in advance!!!
susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      a ?

>>
>>i fall right in between emily (who's a few months older than me) and amy
>(who's a few months younger than me)
>
>amy> > --


not to sound ignorant, b ut how old are they?  i hav e a general idea, but
what are their b irthdates?

thanks!

c
cgsol@mail.utexas.edu
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
oh, what i won't give
to have the things that mean the most
not to mean the things i miss.
                                        -emily saliers
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subject:      fan club email address...

hi everybuddy. i just tried to send email to the infamous fan club
address and it was sent back undeliverable. the address i had for it is:

igfan@rcam.com

anybody have a different one, that works?

thanks a million. i am working against time here trying to order a gift for
someone, so prompt help would be fab-u-loso

happy day

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      igc, for once... queries of a completist

okay, call me a perfectionist, a completist, anal, obsessed... it's all true.
i have a question.  i'm really trying to collect it all, so i want to know
what's out there that i'm missing... i'm talking about things i could just
run around the corner to media play and pick up, so i'm not thinking about
boots or anything.  here's what i either have or plan to buy, so if anyone
can complete the list i'd appreciate it!
ig
sf
nis
rop
so
botby
1200
jcs
4.5
new mongrels - not dead (yet)
"deadicated"
"put on your green shoes"
the peta thing (i only have it on tape; does anyone know where i could get a
cd copy?)
newport folk festival (89-90)
"spirit of ' 73"
"philadelphia" soundtrack
99x - "live x for humanity"
atlanta artists bob dylan tribute
joan baez - "ring them bells"
hitchhiker exampler
"out loud"
"theodore, an alternative music sampler"
"stanley, son of theodore"
big fish ensemble - "lucky"
                               "i hate parties"
whatnext? sampler
mountain stage 5
nanci griffith - "flyer"
                     "other voices, other rooms"
dwight yoakam - "if there was a way"
mcc - "come on, come on"
ellen james society - "reluctantly we"
ferron - "phantom center"
kris mckay
3 kristen hall cd's
billy pilgrim - same
disappear fear - same
"siren song"
putumayo presents folk
viva la diva - "urban nirvana"
                     "writer's night w/ar"
"bots" soundtrack
"the wonder years" soundtrack

this is all that comes to mind, but if anyone thinks of anything else, please
let me know, okay?  thanks bunches!  peace, love, and long lists, sarah

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subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
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on wed, 13 mar 1996, michael messner wrote:

> aarrgghh...n more muppets imitating ig, please!!
>
> that is, no more.
>
> --mike

        michael messner is a muppet basher!!!!  the shame the shame the shame...

        i hope piggy kkicks his butt!!!  (haha mike!  touche!  ;) )

a die hard beaker supporter,
teri

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subject:      smokers anon

in response to the smoking question, i heard emily say in an interview that
she stopped smoking a couple years ago, improving her vocal range. kudos to
emily!!! as for amy, i'm not sure....

               "it's only life, afterall...."

                               annie

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subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )

just say no to muppets.

i dint' say that, it was my evil twin.

love power !
claire
(still waiting for someone to 'splain center stage to me...)
( sigh... i guess no one else knows what it's about either.)

> i was born a drag queens' daughter<  (tammy whynot)

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subject:      re ig  muppet appearance bashing : )

on march 13, mike wrote:
>aarrgghh...n more muppets imitating ig, please!!
>
>that is, no more.
>
>--mike
********
aw, man. and i was having such fun... ( petulant lip, here  ) ah - it could
be worse... we could have them guesting on, oh, i dunno... the shopping
channel?  ( you ever see that thing... no-one's lips move at the same time
they speak.... try singing under those conditions.)....
yeah... i know, i know... i'll go hide somewhere quiet and just read the
posts for a while : ).... the things some people will do for attention : )
kim.
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subject:      nigc : catie curtis

on mon, 11 mar 1996 sabrina chan <schan@owlnet.rice.edu> asked:

> i'm just delurking for a bit to ask about catie curtis a folk
> singer (? i guess) from the northeast i think...i listened to
> a lot of her cd at a barnes and noble listening booth, and
> found it really cool....

and on tue, 12 mar 1996 margaret <maclayton@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
replied :

>...she was a total hit!  she was really good, and i've heard
>that her cd is good, too, though i didn't buy one.  and she's
>either from ma or ct, i forget which.

actually, i believe catie curtis is originally from saco, maine.  in
recent years she has lived and worked in boston and now lives some-
where in the midwest, i think.  i saw her years ago in portland and
boston bars when she was first performing (probably '89-91).  she was
good, although a bit inexperienced then --- i saw her a month or so
ago and was very impressed with how far she has come since those bar
days.  i have not heard her new (or re-released)cd, truth from lies,
but those i know who have heard it have nothing but wonderful things
to say about it.

on the subject of first exposure to the ig, and the perponderance
of listmembers becoming fans circa swamp ophelia; i first heard them
after the self-titled album, but the songs i heard were from strange
fire, on a local college radio womens/folk show. i loved the two
songs (make it easier and get together) so much that i went out and
bought sf and the second cd.  the rest is history.

along these lines, i was surprised to see in sherlyn's survey
results, that no age group over 25 was even listed....guess that
would go along way toward explaining the so connection :)  i am
feeling a bit long in the tooth around here these days.

lynn

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subject:      re: carrie newcomer (mostly nigc)

>anyway, what i wanted to say is-- for those of you who already listen to
>carrie-- don't you think her song "playing with matches" (on angel at my
>shoulder) would be an *incredible* song for ig's to cover? i'd... well,
>i'd swoon, i guess.

oh yes!!!  as if i didn't love that song anyway...she gave a solo concert
at my school last year and i talked to her while purchasing a tape (angel
at my shoulder)...anyway, yeah, i can totally hear amy belting that one
out.

january simpson

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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                          that it costs something to be what you are

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                                -emily saliers, "least complicated"
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on wed, 13 mar 1996, lynn torrey wrote:

> along these lines, i was surprised to see in sherlyn's survey
> results, that no age group over 25 was even listed....guess that
> would go along way toward explaining the so connection :)  i am
> feeling a bit long in the tooth around here these days.

um, i guess i wasn't clear enough when i posted the results.  i only
showed the "top 3" results in that category.  here are the latest
results for the age category, after 472 votes have been cast...

   age of surveyees:
   under 18: 59
   18-21: 191
   22-25: 89
   26-30: 58
   31-40: 49
   41-50: 6
   over 50: 0

cheers,
sherlyn

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   >to meet up at no. there has been some talk about whether they should
   >say "moo" or "folkisgruven." well, how about "folkismooven."? (ha! i
   >just crack myself up sometimes!) :) :)

this is just too much fun.  how 'bout shirts that say "cute fuzzy bear
cub" and then whatever year the individual thinks he or she _was_ the
bear cub incarnation.
rustyr

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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      need help with directions in manhatten!!(nigc)

you are a ig list freak who is kind to country hicks like myself and would be
willing to show me or give good directions on how to go from port authority
to the american place theater (on 46 st., between 6th and 7th avenue??? know
how to get to the hostel and know some really safe and cheap stuff to do, i
may stay overnight, i may come back to maine, i dunno, but it is a hell of a
longt ride down by bus so i can bring ig tapes to let you tape or copy
whatever...in case anyone is wondering, i am going to see "spokeman" or
"spokesman"(i forget title...) starring john hockenberry. he has written a
book i basically am basing my thesis on and he used to be a reporter for npr
and abc.


*really thrilled*

(but also nervous cus i have no f$#king clue where to go in nyc!)

mike r.

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subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
x-to:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
in-reply-to:  <9603130803.aa21187@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca>

i love this ig & muppet thread. i just saw muppet treasure island and i
absolutely loved it:) the muppets are just so original,non-pretenious and
fuuny. they have always had an amazing amount of charm. i was so upset
when disney bought them out because i despise disney now. talk about
being in it for the money.
anyway imagine a dimly lit stage in a muppet forest with
talking trees and birds. imagine kermit and a bunch of other muppets
sitting there listening calmly while amy and emily sing "the wood song".
no humor, just magic.
talk to you soon,
ben

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date:         wed, 13 mar 1996 20:38:11 -0500
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from:         amy staples <astaples@email.unc.edu>
subject:      re: a ?
x-to:         carissa! alma! garza! <cgsol@mail.utexas.edu>
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emily is 32 and amy is about to be 32

on wed, 13 mar 1996, carissa! alma! garza! wrote:

> >>
> >>i fall right in between emily (who's a few months older than me) and amy
> >(who's a few months younger than me)
> >
> >amy> > --
>
>
> not to sound ignorant, b ut how old are they?  i hav e a general idea, but
> what are their b irthdates?
>
> thanks!
>
> c
> cgsol@mail.utexas.edu
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> oh, what i won't give
> to have the things that mean the most
> not to mean the things i miss.
>                                         -emily saliers
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subject:      re: ig + muppets, just one more time : )
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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yes!! i think this one is the best yet.  i love muppets too; what a great
sense of humor!  i think a lot of the muppet humor was lost on kids of my
generation who grew up watching the muppet show. same for charlie brown
specials--have you gone back and watched any of these?  talk about
political humor!!  i laugh way more at charlie brown christmas than i
ever did as a kid....but, i digress....anyway, ben, that gave me chills,
thanks!!--gwen

on wed, 13 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> i love this ig & muppet thread. i just saw muppet treasure island and i
> absolutely loved it:) the muppets are just so original,non-pretenious and
> fuuny. they have always had an amazing amount of charm. i was so upset
> when disney bought them out because i despise disney now. talk about
> being in it for the money.
> anyway imagine a dimly lit stage in a muppet forest with
> talking trees and birds. imagine kermit and a bunch of other muppets
> sitting there listening calmly while amy and emily sing "the wood song".
> no humor, just magic.
> talk to you soon,
> ben
>
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when are their actual birthdays?  just curious again....
-mandy

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date:         wed, 13 mar 1996 19:49:43 -0700
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i love charlie brown! actually "a charlie brown christmas" is my favorite
christmas special! it is not only funny but very symbolic. winnie the
pooh also has this same sort of charm. i guess i'm a sucker for
childrens' entertainment.
ben
" every year its' the same. i always get something stupid like a bunch of
toys and a bike."
"what is it you really want"
"real estate"

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in a message dated 96-03-13 16:34:25 est, you write:

>not to sound ignorant, b ut how old are they?  i hav e a general idea, but
>what are their b irthdates?

hi!  amy is going to be 32 on april 12th and emily is going to be 33 on july
22nd :)

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subject:      re: amy's and em's b-days...

in a message dated 96-03-13 22:03:31 est, warra5c0@numen.elon.edu (punky
brewster) writes:

>when are their actual birthdays?  just curious again....
>-mandy
>
>

amy: 12 april, 1964
emily: 22 july, 1963

=danna (off to slit my wrists)  ;)

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in a message dated 96-03-12 23:52:35 est, sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu (teresa
c. esguerra) writes:


>what lady would or could be beaten by a stranger?  perhaps those critics
>on the balcony (statler and what's his name???).  :)
>
>

his name is waldorf   (get it?  the hotels?)

angie is kc   --- a secret kermit admirer

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in a message dated 96-03-13 18:21:28 est, sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu (teresa
c. esguerra) writes:

>
>on wed, 13 mar 1996, michael messner wrote:
>
>> aarrgghh...n more muppets imitating ig, please!!
>>
>> that is, no more.
>>
>> --mike
>
>        michael messner is a muppet basher!!!!  the shame the shame the
>shame...
>
>        i hope piggy kkicks his butt!!!  (haha mike!  touche!  ;) )
>
>a die hard beaker supporter,
>teri
>


yes  beaker rules!!!

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subject:      1200 curfews poster

just a quick note from "lurkdom"

my birthday is this sunday and since we are going on spring break and won't be
around this weekend, all of my friends and i celebrated tonight.  my friend
trisha brings in this huge flat thing that can only be a poster...had no clue
what it was....then i opened it...ig 1200 curfews poster.....needless to say, i
screamed!!!  i was very excited...now to put it up here or at home....a big
decision!!!  anyhow, anyone who doesn"t have this poster should get it...it
rocks!!!!

peace, hugs, and lots of ig posters,
nicole

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emiy's is july something (12?) and amy's is in april (can't remember the
date)

on wed, 13 mar 1996, punky brewster wrote:

> when are their actual birthdays?  just curious again....
> -mandy
>

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subject:      cortez random-amy-though-thing

i spent about a halfd an hour listening to my boot of the hte tour madison show
today 9great show - too bad it was a not-so-good quality boot) trying to decipher amy's random-though-speech thing (kinda like chickenman) in the middle of
cortez the killer which was in the middle of tmf. so, i have it written out and
can post it (although it may not be totally correct) to the list if there's enuf
interest.  and does anyone know if she does this often.  i remember standing up
at that show and just hear her screamiong something that at that time was
impossible to decipher.  glad it got a chance to make an impact on me.
so, write me y'all if you wan this on the list.  else i'll just go hide in my
corner for a while before i de-lurk again! :)
avital

avital@lucy.cs.wisc.edu

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subject:      ig does broadway

hey...

this talk about the muppets has made me wonder... what if they did the
broadway scene?  if you are familar with the shows on now, where do you
all think you could see them?? :)

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hi, all...
in a message dated 96-03-13 18:21:28 est, sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu (teresa
>c. esguerra) writes:
>on wed, 13 mar 1996, michael messner wrote:
> aarrgghh...n more muppets imitating ig, please!!
> that is, no more.
> --mike
>  michael messner is a muppet basher!!!!  the shame the shame the shame...
>  i hope piggy kkicks his butt!!!  (haha mike!  touche!  ;) )
>a die hard beaker supporter,
>>teri
********
to which angie added:
>yes  beaker rules!!!
***************
and i say:
let's not over look bunson honeydew!!!!!
kim.
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subject:      re: ig does broadway

>hey, noi, on wednsday, march 13, you wrote:
>this talk about the muppets has made me wonder... what if they did the
>broadway scene?  if you are familar with the shows on now, where do you
>all think you could see them?? :)
*****
so, are we talking the muppets on broadway? ( it's been done (*smile*))
or ig on broadway?... in that case... how about grease???? ( oh man....
the possibilities.... ) i'm a fan o riso ( reezo?... how the heck do you
spell her name?)
kim quickly dons her flame retardent internet wear and waits in abject fear
for replies....
peace + ramalama ding dongs...  : )
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> amy: 12 april, 1964
> emily: 22 july, 1963

no kidding!  i can't believe i've been an ig fan for so long & never knew
that amy & i share the same birthday! (tho 10 yrs apart...)  and i always
thought my only claims to fame here were tiny tim & david letterman....

michael

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