lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-03d


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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 00:17:01 +0500
reply-to:     jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
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from:         jack mitchell <jamitch3@vt.edu>
subject:      re: ig web site
x-to:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>

at 09:44 am 3/20/96 cst, you wrote:
>i don't know either.  i haven't been able to get to it for a couple of
>months now.  anybody else know?
>
> - jen hall

use http://www.tezcat.com/~mtp/ig/html/ig-page.html instead of the mtp
address.  this one works fine for me.


jack
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date:         wed, 20 mar 1996 23:14:25 mst
reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      dear god, did i miss watershed day?

not according to myt happy clock which spits our mountain standard
time!!!!!! :)

hi all. i have been gone for seven days again, not that anyone would
notice <sigh>

but enough about me....watershed is absolutely hands down my favorite
of the "upbeat" indigo girls songs...yep, that's right, i have about ten
different categories i have made up :) it struck me especially so today
during my 452 mile trek across kansas. no offense to anyone who lives in
kansas, but that is a loooooonnnnnnnngggggg mother of a drive with very
little to look at. anyways, i am finally reaching the border of colorado
and just as i cross into the state, watershed comes on the radio on knab,
the *only* radio station that makes it into the middle of the plains and
i-70. i just about cried i was so happy, to hear the song and to be back
in my beloved colorado after what seemed like the most unbearably long
roadtrip ever!

that's my watershed story. this song will be featured prominently at
my funeral. hope that doesn't freak anybody out! i'm not heading that
way anytime soon, i hope ;)

have a good night....happy spring!

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         wed, 20 mar 1996 23:43:31 -0600
reply-to:     jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
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from:         jennifer jaffe <jjaffe@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      tracy chapman (nigc)

i just read the digest from today and noticed a comment about tracy
chapman.  i feel like i have to put in my .02!  i saw tracy at nwu at
the beginning of december and the show was incredible.  it was a nice
mix of all her albums but she did play a lot of new stuff.  the thing
that made the show incredible was the fact that she was sick
throughout the whole show, but still sounded incredible.  i was sooo
impressed.  i definately would recomend her new album, and if you get
it listen to the song the promise.  my friends and i were crying
buckets when she played it.  the words are just awesome!
that's just my .02!
love and moos
jj in chicago

"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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date:         wed, 20 mar 1996 23:36:48 -0800
reply-to:     linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      song sequence, ghost o s's trag, i miss n*i*s
in-reply-to:  <21586537011c0e00@crai.com>

on wed, 20 mar 1996, keates, harry wrote:

> seen these three songs -  123, komh, and watershed - as a sequence,

what a trip. i can only assume you have n*i*s on cd? (unless you don't
get jarred by the side of a tape ending..or never start with side two if
that's where it happens to be...) i myself have n*i*s on tape, and i have
always seen watershed, hmd, and yamotttw as the trippy three song
sequence speaking of the pain/beauty, fear/happy dichotomies in the
world, and doing it ever so eloquently and peacefully. when i first read
your message, it took me aminute to relate to watershed coming right
after komh. (and i even havee auto reverse in my car! :) )

and you know, speaking of my tape it is missing! y'all have beeen killing
me these past few days, talking about n*i*s songs and every night i walk
out of here and want my tape and it is just gone. i have torn my car
apart. i can't tell you how close i was to buying the cd earlier today
(with all the money i don't have).  it needs to really reappear right
now.

one wickedly random question about the whole "ghost of someone's tragedy"
thing: *every* time i hear this line, i think of this young adult book i
kind of read once. in the first scene, this guy crashes his motorcycle
over a guard rail, and then his ghost comes back up the mountain and meets
some girl--or he doesn't really die--or maybe they're together--or then
they fall in love or something--as you can see, i really cannot remember,
but i am really trying to. does anyone have any idea what i am talking
about? i am sure i read it at least eight years ago, but i think it was
not new then, maybe from around late seventies or so? help? anyone? i
always always always see this scene from this book in my head because
this dude was fully the ghost of the tragedy, and there was a guard
rail and everything...and i just need to know what the hell i'm talking
about. :)

curiouser and curiouser,
linda

                **and if through forwardness or wantonness, etc.,
                she shake it off, at any time, she is at no rest
                in her spirit, until she take it up again...**
                                ---the journal of john winthrop

             all my life i've painted with anger's brush...  a. ray

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 14:31:33 gmt
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      what i did on my holidays (some igc)

hi folks,

well, i'm back from my little amsterdam trip.  had a great time - it's a
fabulous city, wonderful canals, architecture and some very picturesque
dykes...;-)

visited anne frank's house.  interesting place -  lots to think about - this
train (revised) was going round my head while i was looking at the
exhibition about concentration camps and anti-semitism... sad, tragic, cruel
and pointless...

had a great time on sunday night - went to the best music venue i've ever
been to - the paradiso, a converted church with room for only 800 people -
to see joan armatrading.  incredible atmosphere - we were standing really
close to the stage.  joan was obviously moved by playing to an intimate
audience - she kept brimming up with tears - bless!  she's such an excellent
performer (and the rest of herband was great too)  - even the more recent
material which i haven't been so keen on began to grow on me.  i can't
remember who was asking about female guitarists, but you should consider
joan - she can play a mean lead and rhythm geetar alright!    we met up with
a dutch listie - hello flo! - for the concert.  aren't ig fans just the
nicest people?!

we've decided to return to see ig there next time they tour - i can't
imagine seeing them in a better venue...

virgin records in amsterdam had  sf, ig, nis and botby in a 'nice price'
offer on lots of sony titles -  worked out at about 8 pounds sterling -
bargain!  in a  fit of holiday spending madness i bought the first 3 to
replace my scratched vinyl/warped tape copies!  not sure if its a worldwide
offer, but some of you might want to check it out.

i'm completely out of touch with what song day it is - could it be y&mot10tw
yet?  rather predictably i guess i always think of my parents with this one.
  i'm going back to see them this weekend, and in a couple of weeks time
i'll be going back again with my partner. this easter will mark the sixth
anniversary of me coming out to my parents.  they took it really badly at
first, but over the yeas have come to accept that i'm happy - p'raps i have
the power of seeming certain... now things are pretty much okay, except for
the fact that they are reluctant to ever really talk about it.

    after the battles and we're still around
    everything once up in the air has settled down
    sweep the ashes, let the silence find us
    a moment of peace is worth every war behind us

that pretty much says it all - except maybe sometimes i get dissatisfied
that perhaps they've just swept the ashes under the carpet - although the
peace may be a relief from the fight, sometimes the fight is still waiting
to happen and i'm still thinking we've got a few more wars to come...
(hopefully not this weekend though!)

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************

p.s.  lots of mooo moments in amsterdam - i hadn't realised the dutch were
so into their cows - amidst all the tulips, ceramics and clogs was all this
cow merchandise - i resisted the temptation to bring back the cutest little
pair of cow spotted clogs...hmmm...

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 10:10:53 -0500
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         mtngrl6@aol.com
subject:      happy birthday!!!  (march 21, 1996)
x-cc:         carrieb@gladstone.uoregon.edu

happy birthday carrie!!!  "...all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness
brings fullness and loss of love brings wholeness to us all..."

carrieb@gladstone.uoregon.edu
"hand me downs"

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 07:35:16 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      i'll answer - promise ( nigc )

hey all...
to those of you who e-mailed me privately yesterday about my comments on
watershed... thankyou so much for your very touching support + kindness. i
want to answer each of you seperately + will. today is a bad day for me,
however, because my friend ( with the brain tumour) was hospitalized late
yesterday with pneumonia... he has since slipped into a coma + is not
expected to live. my heart + time are there, today. to all of you - peace. kim.
kim fischer rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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the animals all stopped what they were
doing and gazed in awe at the magnificent
creature silloueted against the rising sun.
rusty the rooster had emerged, once more,
from his book bag.....
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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 12:15:24 -0500
reply-to:     danaw1208@aol.com
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from:         danaw1208@aol.com
subject:      american heritage or webster's - take your pick.

hello to everyone,

hate to have to do this, but in defense of what i posted a few days ago,
i am responding to victoria reed's post of 3-20-96, in which victoria wrote:

> i think that the use of "white bread" was horrible.  it goes right along
> with spic nigger and chink...real nice right?!  ............
> if you are gonna say native american....you sure as hell shouldn't drop
something
> like "white bread" right after it.....ou lose a heck of a lot of
> credibility....you know what i mean?  am no white supremo ass hole...so
> don't even go there....but the use of such a term disgusts me...i don't
care
> how it was meant....do you see anyone using "fag" of "wetback" or anything
> like that? no!  not on this listserv baby!
> sorry to go off like this ..... but tolerance of such language leads to
> more hate.
> the one thing i will not tolerate is hate.

  victoria, you must be confused because your criticism is wholly unfounded.
if you
look up the word "bread" in a dictionary it means a staple food made from
flour or
other grain product.  literally when  the word "white" is used in conjunction
with the word "bread" refers to a type of food stuff or "bread" that is made
with white or bleached
flour.  figuratively when the words are used together  they usually describe
something (most often a segment or type of society) which is bland and
homogenous.

      and just to head off more confusion, homogenous does not refer to
anyone's sexual orientation.....homogeneous means "uniform in structure or
composition throughout".

      so basically the terms "white" and "bread" when used together do not in
any way refer to person's race or whatever else you were talking about in
your post.

     may i suggest that before publically blasting someone about his or her
thoughts and expressions (or embarrassing yourself worse yet), you first look
up the common meaning of words to understand what you are talking about.  the
only way to increase
tolerance in the world is to educate, and i hope through this posting, we
have made
some progress toward understanding and tolerance.

   thanks.
    dana

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 12:30:40 est
reply-to:     rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
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from:         rsimpson <rsimpson@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu>
subject:      re: entire song lyrics
x-to:         "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>

          in response to the question of which song i would send...
          i think my first choice would be watershed.  that song just
          seems to sum up a lot of things for me.  it is a great poem
          even without music.
          rich

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 13:30:06 est
reply-to:     skip cockrill <jrcockr@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>
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subject:      ig bootlegs?

     i'm posting a short message asking for help.  i've just started
getting very interested in ig bootlegs.  but i really don't have any
tapes to trade back. i do have a small collection of "jump little children"
bootlegs. i was wondering if anyone had any ig bootlegs they would mine me
copying or trading for jump bootlegs. i would appriciate it very much! if
you are interested, know someone that is, or have a information about a
bootleg please e-mail me. thank you very much!
                           a newbie collector and die hard ig fan,
                                            ryan "skip" cockrill
                                            jrcockr@univscvm.csd.sc.edu

p.s. - if you would like to recieve any information about jump i would
       be glad to give you a small bio of them or direct you to their
       mailing list. =)

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 10:59:51 +0000
reply-to:     kristen jenkins <kristenj@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
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from:         kristen jenkins <kristenj@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
subject:      re: dear god, did i miss watershed day?
x-to:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
in-reply-to:  <0099fa3b.71b32149.31@cc.colorado.edu>

i remember hearing "watershed" in my friend's car ....

i thought it was such a great song, but i couldn't remember what it was
called, so for the longest time i called it "the crow song"

duh

kristen...

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 13:52:09 -0600
reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      tacy!!! nigc

just wanted to add my coupla pennies. i saw tracy abouta month ago in
austin. let me just say the show was spectacular. most of it was her
normal stuff. but she also did a really cool funk/rockin version of the
classic fast car. needless to say the crowd went wild and she was so cute
and embarressed about it , and how much we liked it. the encore was
suprising it that my mellow tracy playes ike+tina turner's version of
proud mary complete with the appropriatte jumps will playing guitar and
everything. well thats all i have to say  tkhanks

peace love and lot's o' hugs
kristal

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 15:06:29 -0500
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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from:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
subject:      jcs video from daemon question

any one heard if the jcs video (daemon records) is ready to be
released? i thought the email ar sent out said march of '96.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 14:11:13 -0600
reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      hmdowns

okay here we are with one of my absolute favorites again. any song with
that cool of an intro drum thing has to be cool right. when i saw ig in
concert abotu a year ago a said she was thinking about her sisters and
the hand me downs she used to get from them. it was really neat. the song
kinda reminds me of my tendency to take alot of pain b/c i think that
that is what love is all about, though my head knows that isn't true.
reminds me of a mellissa ferrick line ' cause i thought love lasted, so i
always stayed the night'. anyway, i think the everything stanza pretty
much encapsulates (sp?) an entire philosophy. the elemental hope we all
have that there is a positive side to the pain and reason for the
suffering is reflected by the ' give me hope, give me hope, that
emptiness....' beautiful phrasing, excellent writing. i also love ' twist
the words and place th blame, tell me now arn't we the same' that happens
so often in the fights with our loved ones. . i don't have a clue what
the ' tripping in our yellow feet' refers to though.

deep deep song, but in a very good way.
great example of a's style


peace love and lots o' hugs
kristal

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 15:29:36 -0500
reply-to:     sherry & kerry <morgana@shore1.intercom.net>
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from:         sherry & kerry <morgana@shore1.intercom.net>
subject:      re: jcs video from daemon question

at 03:06 pm 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>any one heard if the jcs video (daemon records) is ready to be
>released? i thought the email ar sent out said march of '96.
>
>
>nancy humphries
>nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com
>
are you saying that jcs is going to be on video??  i was hoping beyond all
hope that those of us who did not get to travel to the shows would get to
see it via video.  i had _no_ idea that they really had taped the
performances...

  peace and i can hardly contain myself at the idea of amy playing jesus...

      sher

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 14:49:15 -0600
reply-to:     jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
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from:         jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
subject:      re: ig bootlegs?

i too am in the same boat but have leadmill bootlegs to trade.  to learn more
about leadmill check http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html

jeremy fuksa

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subject: ig bootlegs?
author:  skip cockrill <jrcockr@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu> at smtp
date:    3/21/96 1:30 pm


     i'm posting a short message asking for help.  i've just started
getting very interested in ig bootlegs.  but i really don't have any
tapes to trade back. i do have a small collection of "jump little children"
bootlegs. i was wondering if anyone had any ig bootlegs they would mine me
copying or trading for jump bootlegs. i would appriciate it very much! if
you are interested, know someone that is, or have a information about a
bootleg please e-mail me. thank you very much!
                           a newbie collector and die hard ig fan,
                                            ryan "skip" cockrill
                                            jrcockr@univscvm.csd.sc.edu

p.s. - if you would like to recieve any information about jump i would
       be glad to give you a small bio of them or direct you to their
       mailing list. =)

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 15:44:33 -0500
reply-to:     "kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org" <kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org" <kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org>
subject:      re: jcs video from daemon question

a little birdie told me last week that daemon is still working on it but =
they want to get it out soon.  also, they're considering releasing two =
separate tapes.  one with the full jcs performance and one with =
interviews, backstage stuff, etc.

kris

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 15:46:34 -0600
reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      re: jcs video from daemon question (fwd)

---------- forwarded message ----------
a little birdie told me last week that daemon is still working on it but they want to get it out soon.  also, they're considering releasing two separate tapes.  one with the full jcs performance and one with interviews, backstage stuff, etc.

kris

yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!
i couldn't contan my glee. sorry ;)

kristal the over joyed

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 21:55:57 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: fatal crash (fwd)

well, while we're on the subject of watershed i just thought i'd send this
post from the newsgroup to you all ... about the number of possible or
explicit car crash references in emily's songs.   does anyone have any
explanation?

mat

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date: sun, 17 mar 1996 21:11:15 gmt
from: tom snyder <tommy@superlink.net>
reply-to: tsnyder@eclipse.net
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: re: fatal crash

<someone@bgsu.edu> wrote:

>tommy@superlink.net (tom snyder) wrote:
>>yeashah@aol.com (yeashah) wrote:
>>
>>>can you clarify the referances?  this is new to me.
>>
>>in watershed - twisted guardrails, ghost of someone's tragedy.
>>
>>in ghost - the whole song is about a dead lover
>>
>>in language or the kiss - table set for six and five were there
>>
>>in power of two - fatal crash
>>
>>mystery - twisted blind-sided highway
>>
>>fare thee well -  watched your taillights blaze into nothingness, long
>>gone before i ever got to you
>>
>>i'm sure there are others but that's about all i can think of right now.
>
>language or the kiss is about emioly's conflict with career and personal life.
>the empty plate is hers while she's out on the road. (i don't think i'm going
>too far out ona  limb there.)

ok, on further review i guess i'll give you that one but i'm still
convinced about the other songs have references to a fatal crash of
someone very close to emily, possibly a lover.
someone out there in a.m.i-g land must know the answer to whether this
actually happened or not. there are a bunch of people here with what
seems to be very intimate knowledge of every facet of a&e's life. surely
someone must know. anyone? am i asking a blasphemous question or
something?


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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 18:23:53 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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subject:      re: fatal crash (fwd)

>post from the newsgroup to you all ... about the number of possible or
>explicit car crash references in emily's songs.   does anyone have any
>explanation?

well, let's see here...

>>>in watershed - twisted guardrails, ghost of someone's tragedy.

ok, i'll buy that one.

>>>in ghost - the whole song is about a dead lover

no it's not.

>>>in language or the kiss - table set for six and five were there
>>>

this is about emily being away from home
>>>in power of two - fatal crash

yeah, but the song is talking about her _not_ doing wild and foolish things
that lead to mistakes (mostly in relationships, not cars)
>>>
>>>mystery - twisted blind-sided highway

ok.

>>>fare thee well -  watched your taillights blaze into nothingness, long
>>>gone before i ever got to you

this is just about someone leaving.

>convinced about the other songs have references to a fatal crash of

i think there are a lot of references to cars, highways, and traveling in both
their songs, but i think this is being too morbid. i think it's mostly just
because they make their livelihood by traveling. one writes what one knows,
right? i think this person is trying to interpret these images too literally,
and too morbidly. think about parting, and long distances, and lots of
driving, not crashing.
this is just my gut reaction, i didn't sit down and analyze lyrics or anything.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
(gee, my sig is pretty ironic for this post, isn't it?)
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 15:58:04 -0800
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in-reply-to:  nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com> "jcs video from daemon
              question" (mar 21,  3:06pm)

on mar 21,  3:06pm, nancy humphries wrote:
> subject: jcs video from daemon question
> any one heard if the jcs video (daemon records) is ready to be
> released? i thought the email ar sent out said march of '96.
>
>
> nancy humphries
> nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

for people in  the uk, europe, australia and new zealand: there is a good
chance that the jcs video will be released on the pal format as well as on the
american ntsc format. there will be full details in the next daemon newsletter
which should be out soon.

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 19:29:50 est
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subject:      hmd, yellow feet,...

kristal asked what the line "tripping in our yellow feet" from hmd meant.  well, i
can only give my interpretation, of course, but i do know that "yellow" is another
word for cowardly or scared.  when you take the last two lines together:
"tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets..."  it kind of
makes me think of two people who are either afraid or unsure about what they are
doing...or about to do.  as if they are afraid of being caught...  i'll let y'all
intrepret it from there...

peace, love and moo!

joan :)

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subject:      re: ig on new compilation

saw the following in a trade mag today:

"columbia is set to release "sweet relief ii", an all-star collection of
artists performing songs by vic chesnutt.  the lineup includes:  rem,
smashing pumpkins, soul asylum, live, cracker, garbage, dog's eye view, mary
margaret o'hara, sparklehorse, kristin hersh, *the indigo girls*, and
collaborations by victoria williams/vic chesnutt; nanci griffith/hootie and
the blowfish, and joe henry/madonna."....

no word yet on actual release date or the name of the song that ig will be
performing.....

-connie :)

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 20:33:34 est
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subject:      a+e siblings?

a recent email to the group made me think:  do a + e have any siblings? (i know
they do, but...)
if anybody knows how many, etc., please (this will rob me of sleep otherwise...)
thanx!
-moe (simone)

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date:         thu, 21 mar 1996 19:59:22 -0700
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who is vic chesnut?
thanks,
ben

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if memory serves me, he is an acoustic folk singer (i think-i've never
heard him-i've only heard of him), who is in a wheelchair, but i'm not
sure why he is in a wheelchair--maybe that's why it is going to be called
"sweet relief ii."
doesn't victoria williams have multiple sclerosis?  i can't quite remember.
i'm sorry this was so vague.  i hope i was of help.
gotta quit procrastinating.
amanda

on thu, 21 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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> who is vic chesnut?
> thanks,
> ben
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in a message dated 96-03-21 20:20:01 est, danaw1208@aol.com writes:

>.

i have to disagree with you dana.  although your post shows correct usage of
a dictionary, it carries none of the colloquialism overtones that this
particular phrase carries.   dictionarys only serve to tell us literal
definition of the word.  in america there are several words that are harmless
in the dictionary, but carry a full-impact punch in our culture.  fag,
originally was first used in wwi as something that enabled tanks to cross
over fox-holes, it then progressed to meaning a cigarette, up until today
where it is a full fledged hate word.  educating about the literal meaning of
words does nothing.

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hey ya'll.
don't want to get in a flame war but i have to agree with victoria.  i have
often heard "wjhitebread" used to imply some one or place very heterosexual
caucasian and intolerant of all others not in that category.   maybe this is
just a regional usage in the south and southwest.  i was surprised to hear
the term had any kind of positive meaning.  anyway you apparently didn't mean
it in a derogatory fashion but i would have to agree with victoria that it is
a derogatory term.  you know, my british friends could never understand why i
turned purple when they called me a "yank" either.
peace and have an indigo day
kimberly

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subject:      10k wars

hey all,
i'd like to share my thoughts about 10k wars. the girls brought peace into my
life after years of internal anger and lack of confidence in who i was.
there's nothing really specific about this song that i love. it just calmed
me down when i was fighting something that wasn't there in my life.
i had just learned of them about a year ago. i went to 2 concerts last april
and was totally drawn in. that same weekend, i bought nis and rop and the
only voice i heard in my head for weeks was em's, singing, "a moment of peace
is worth every war behind us..." thank you, emily.

letting the silence find me,
yen

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              from "amanda ruth bakken" at mar 21, 96 09:14:44 pm

vic chestnut= dylan in a wheelchair, in the 1990's, i absolutrly recommend
any album you can get of his -- they are all awesome. he is in a chair due
to a car accident, and he is the one reason (more than the ig's) i wished i
lived in atlanta -- because he rarely plays too far north, so i have yet to
see him live, tho amazingly boots do exist (check www.kcrw.org for a radio
show using realaudio!) he rocks and the ig's should be killer on sweet
relief 2


they both played the now legendary "athens music fest on sept. 25th 1988


(wishes he was at that show soooooo badly)
mike r.

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subject:      re: hmd, yellow feet,...

at 07:29 pm 3/21/96 est, joan wrote:
>kristal asked what the line "tripping in our yellow feet" from hmd meant.
well, i
>can only give my interpretation, of course, but i do know that "yellow" is
another
>word for cowardly or scared.  when you take the last two lines together:
>"tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets..."  it kind of
>makes me think of two people who are either afraid or unsure about what
they are
>doing...or about to do.  as if they are afraid of being caught...  i'll let
y'all
>intrepret it from there...
>
>
i don't know about anyone else, but in looking at the line "yellow feet" i
get the cowardly or afraid symbolism you speak of.  however, is it like the
kkk to "trip in yellow [cowardly] feet" and "check under their sheets"??
just a thought...

  sherry

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a couple of thoughts.

ghost is about a long-dead love affair, one that wasn't completely
emotionally resolved.

language or the kiss is indeed about emily being away from home.

power of two is about young juvenile love, the kind that doesn't know any
etter than to do foolish things.

touche,
mike

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subject:      re: jcs
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> as far as the amy as jesus thinggoes... amen brother. she rocked.
i havn't seen it, but am in line already for the video...whenever it
may come out...

>i was
> disappointed when i saw the 'real' jcs with tim neally?. his voice
> just didn't cut it. he sounded 80 years old and outta breath. give
> me amy anytime ;)
ted nealy actually...gotta give him credit tho...he did it almost 30
years ago originally, and he's been touring for 4 years now with the
revival tour...(interesting note...it's here in neenah today and
friday)

as for nigc: if any of you really like the show, and are in
wisconsin, i'll be playing caiaphas in oshkosh wisconsin from april
2-6 with a  local company. call any ticketmaster for ticket info...

                                                                   eric d. thiel

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subject:      hand me downs/10,000 wars

just wanted to comment on these two songs. i love them both.

hmed carries such impact in my life. growing  up self-esteem, love and
friendship were foreign to me. i was so afraid that i was not loved that i
held tight to whatever was sent my way. i projected my fears, my needs and my
desires to those that had befriended me. needless to say, i had few friends.
they were afraid of getting close to me and i was afraid they wouldn't. so
they didn't. when i finally learned to let go, to be able to risk the "loss
of love" was i able to find "wholeness." each time i listen to the song, i am
reminded of who i was and who i want to be. powerful song for me. (i have no
idea as to what it may really mean)

watershed for me, reminds me of my learning years. learning that friendship
and love does not equal safety and smoothness in relationships. my greatest
friends have been those i have struggled with the most. eventually, we
learned and the wars became battles followed by skirmishes and now, they are
simply opportunites to learn more about each other and grow closer. my
favorite lines talk about the dangers of pride and ego in splitting
relationships. in the desire to be right and satisfied only with ourselves we
end up alone, never satisfied and never as good a we thought or would like.
however, if we can overcome, peace.

anyway, don't know if my thoughts are close to what the songs may actually
mean, but they provide me with great reflections on my life.

marian

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subject:      y&motttw

i'm feeling a little disconnected, because i started this thread and for the
last 2 weeks have been hard pressed to contribute. i just started a new  full
time job with the (boo  hiss!!!)  internal revenue service, and haven't had
time or energy to do much more than lurk. but since this is one of my
favorite ig songs, i'm sleepily commenting...

i will never forget when i saw them do this live. it was in december, when
the persian gulf war was beginning to look very scary. when emily sang, "a
moment of peace is worth every war behind us" the entire crowd just roared.
to me this is what makes emily the great songwriter that she is, she can
make one line in a song  hit you so powerfully.

angie in kc

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are you saying ar sends out email?!?!

that's my smile for the night!!--gwen

on thu, 21 mar 1996, sherry & kerry wrote:

> at 03:06 pm 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >any one heard if the jcs video (daemon records) is ready to be
> >released? i thought the email ar sent out said march of '96.
> >
> >
> >nancy humphries
> >nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com
> >
> are you saying that jcs is going to be on video??  i was hoping beyond all
> hope that those of us who did not get to travel to the shows would get to
> see it via video.  i had _no_ idea that they really had taped the
> performances...
>
>   peace and i can hardly contain myself at the idea of amy playing jesus...
>
>       sher
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subject:      nigc-gerard mchugh

does anyone know where i can find tabs and chords for anything by gm?
especially songs off the album "more than i" including the one with ig "love
is a lion".   i've scanned olga but came up empty handed.  any suggestions??

btw, has gm done any touring lately?  any info would be greatly appreciated!

tc

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subject:      re: entire song lyrics

>> this could turn into a fun thread. to make it a bit different i'm talking
>> about *the entire* song (not just favorite lines). so if you couldn't send
>> the music and only the lyrics, which song lyrics would you send to a
>> friend who had never heard any ig music before?
>
actually, i *have* done this a few times!!....although it is difficult to
choose between all the great lyrics, the songs i usually end up choosing to
send are "love's recovery", "closer to fine" and "ghost"......   i've sent
them to friends on-line who haven't heard ig, as an introduction to their
wonderfully insightful and poetic lyrics, and i nearly always get back a
request for a tape of their music!  (i usually create a random compilation of
my favorite songs, hoping they'll fall in love with the songs and go out and
buy *all* the albums!!)  i was fascinated by the stories from people who
utilized ig lyrics in their poetry/english classes - and by the idea of
approaching these songs *as* poetry, so just for fun, i also sent the lyrics
from these songs to a friend of mine who was taking a course in analyzing and
interpreting poetry! :)

-connie

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subject:      re: jcs video from daemon question

at 03:29 pm 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:

>are you saying that jcs is going to be on video??  i was hoping beyond all
>hope that those of us who did not get to travel to the shows would get to
>see it via video.  i had _no_ idea that they really had taped the
>performances...

hi all,

well, don't jump for joy yet.  according to amy, it's not going to be the
complete
show but rather a behind the scenes, interview sort of thing with certain choice
performances shown from the best of the different shows.

most likely the sxsw show and some wrap-around stuff filmed in seattle, since
the atlanta shows were filmed on 8mm for some reason, much of that is unusuable.
it looks like i'm going to have to take amy up on her offer to bootleg one
of the complete
shows for me  :-)

mike  :-)

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i know that if i had to send a set of song lyrics, my choice would
probably be "love will come to you." perhaps it isn't the most complex
song or emotional, but it holds a lot of meaning for me. sometimes i
think the simplest lyrics and the most graceful metaphors ("and my words
are paper tigers.. no match for the predator of pain inside her" gives me
chills every time) are the ones which are the most beautiful. just my .01
(only .01 because it's 3 am and my brain isn't giving out .02 responses :))

em'ly

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hi all,

i heard ig singing a live version of "midnight train to gerorgia" with
sandy garfunkel - great song! is she the daughter of art garfunkel??

bernie
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>
>i heard ig singing a live version of "midnight train to gerorgia" with
>sandy garfunkel - great song! is she the daughter of art garfunkel??
>

on 1200 curfews:
sandy garfinkle (or something, but male) is the harmonica player on chickenman
gail ann dorsey is the singer on midnight train...

so, unless i'm missing something big here, the answer is 'no'.

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>well, while we're on the subject of watershed i just thought i'd send this
>post from the newsgroup to you all ... about the number of possible or
>explicit car crash references in emily's songs.   does anyone have any
>explanation?

*laughs*
*enters sarcasm mode*

first paul mccartney...
now emily saliers is dead...
she obviously died in a car crash, and so her double, the winner of an
emily lookalike contest (who underwent extensive plastic sugery and
intensive guitar lessons)  and amy decided to put in all these 'clues'
to break the news gently to their many adoring (and never psycho) fans...

the clues so far:

emily died 'up on the watershed' - one of those shed/bridge things often
seen crossing rivers in the dukes of hazzard - 'on the road to austin'.
it was on 'a blind sided highway' where the 'tailights blazed into
nothingness, fancy and fast into a fatal crash' leaving just the 'twisted
guardrails on the highway, broken glass on the cement'

her body was brought back on the midnight train to georgia.

if you hold the nis cover up to a mirror upside down, you can make out
the words 'emily was' and if you turn it 45 degrees, a skull.

touch me fall played backwards you can clearly hear 'em is dead, mourn her'

on the so cover emmy is in little pieces, a polynesian symbol of afterlife...

on botby the title, indigo girls live...the live is written over the picture
of amy, indicating emily is not alive (i.e. dead)...(unless it's written over
emily, i can't remember, in which case umm...i'll make something else up...)

there you have it. conclusive proof.

it's amazing what painkillers can do to one's mind...

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ps this is humour (bad humour, but humout nonetheless.) emily saliers is,
in fact, alive. and in good health. i apologise for any distress caused.

:):)

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at 11:50 am 3/22/96 gmt, neily wrote:
>first paul mccartney...
>now emily saliers is dead...
>she obviously died in a car crash, and so her double, the winner of an
>emily lookalike contest (who underwent extensive plastic sugery and
>intensive guitar lessons)  and amy decided to put in all these 'clues'
>to break the news gently to their many adoring (and never psycho) fans...
>the clues so far:
>emily died 'up on the watershed' - one of those shed/bridge things often
>seen crossing rivers in the dukes of hazzard - 'on the road to austin'.
>it was on 'a blind sided highway' where the 'tailights blazed into
>nothingness, fancy and fast into a fatal crash' leaving just the 'twisted
>guardrails on the highway, broken glass on the cement'

i have never laughed so hard as i  did at this bit of fun and humour from
neily!  leave it to him to provide comic relief!  that is 100% better than
the "paul is dead" rumours..gosh, you may actually have started some silly
rumour here..can't wait to see the results..!

thanks for the early morning laughter...

  sher

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on thu, 21 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> who is vic chesnut?
> thanks,
> ben

vic chesnutt is a singer-songwriter from athens, ga ... he sings sort of
country-folk songs with a wierd croaky voice and a nylon-string guitar.   he
is also confined to a wheelchair and this collection suggests that there is
probably something wrong with him, since the original sweet relief was done
for victoria williams who is in the early stages of multiple sclerosis.   his
albums include little, drunk, west of rome and last year's is the actor
happy?

mat

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on fri, 22 mar 1996, sherry & kerry wrote:

> i have never laughed so hard as i  did at this bit of fun and humour from
> neily!  leave it to him to provide comic relief!  that is 100% better than
> the "paul is dead" rumours..gosh, you may actually have started some silly
> rumour here..can't wait to see the results..!

well let's see if this rumour gets as far as the "indigo girls have split"
hoax did shall we?   or maybe this will be our very own "good times" ...

mat

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in a message dated 96-03-21 22:59:02 est, kimorr@aol.com writes:

>don't want to get in a flame war but i have to agree with victoria.  i have
>often heard "wjhitebread" used to imply some one or place very heterosexual
>caucasian and intolerant of all others not in that category.   maybe this is
>just a regional usage in the south and southwest.  i was surprised to hear
>the term had any kind of positive meaning.

warning:  this letter contains no flames.  for those who need their daily
flame-fix, you will need to go elsewhere.  ;)

all right -- time for my two cents, i suppose.  yes, "whitebread" is often
used as a derogatory term.  at other times, it simply retains its original
meaning, i.e. bland or  mainstream.  it helps, though, to know who's saying
it, doesn't it?  does everyone remember the discussion of about six weeks
ago, wherein many listies agreed that women could call each other "bitch" and
have it be a nonoffensive term?  it's like looking through a recent
dictionary and seeing both original and colloquial definitions listed -- yes,
folks, some dictionaries like my unabridged ones do list both.  (hell, does
anyone else out there own an oed?)

for those of you who don't know dana, who wrote the original "whitebread"
post, let me clue you in -- if she had had any concept that what she was
writing would be interpreted as a slur against anyone, she would never have
written it.  she is one of the most openminded people i have ever met ('tho
we've only met online).  if she can put up with my weirdness without comment,
i can't imagine that she would consciously comment on anyone else's oddities
or lack of same.

these are not flames, and are not directed at anyone in particular -- i just
picked up the last thread in the message as a place for response.  i have
varying degrees of love for everyone i've met on this list, and i'm sure many
were just stunned to see "whitebread" appear, as it were, from nowhere.  i
believe wholeheartedly in tact (although some may feel that this post proves
otherwise).  it is unfortunate that political correctness is so altering our
language that people are using it in place of tact and courtesy (the term
"common courtesy" having fallen down and died, as it is no longer true) and a
sense of humor which enables folks to laugh at themselves.  (as an idea,
political correctness is a good one.  in practice, however, i've been
watching it get out of hand for about a decade now.)  all those women on the
list who agreed that "bitch" was a fun term, a fine term, a term that they'd
like to hang on their walls because it gave them such giggles when one of
them said it to another -- these same women (myself included) would probably
go into an apoplectic fit if some man used it "at" them in any serious
fashion.

i guess i still think like an english major -- i see everything in terms of
rules 1 & 2 of rhetoric:
          1) know your audience;
          2) recognize the speaker/writer.
i guess dana didn't know her audience as well as she thought she did.

all with hope, all with hope,
                                danna

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in a message dated 96-03-22 08:24:00 est, mts5@aber.ac.uk (indigo jo) writes:

>vic chesnutt is a singer-songwriter from athens, ga ... he sings sort of
>country-folk songs with a wierd croaky voice and a nylon-string guitar.   he
>is also confined to a wheelchair and this collection suggests that there is
>probably something wrong with him, since the original sweet relief was done
>for victoria williams who is in the early stages of multiple sclerosis.
  his
>albums include little, drunk, west of rome and last year's is the actor
>happy?
>
>mat

thanks for posting that info, mat!  yes, the sweet relief cd's were created
as benefits for singer/songwriters who have serious medical problems but no
medical insurance to cover them.

-connie

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subject:      nigc:we're fighting for the dna of all species (fwd)

i know this is non-ig related, well actually it kind of is, since ig has
done the honor the earth tour and all.  1000 year old trees in the umpqua
forest are slated to be cut.  these are the oldest trees in oregon.
there is a rush to log all of the old growth trees before the salvage
rider becomes history, if it ever does.  one of the main organizers of
the save the ancient trees movement has
sent an email out -- please read below.  if you want futher information
on how you can help, email me or call the 800 # listed below and i'll
send additional info.  above all, if you can do nothing else, please pray
for these trees -- once they are gone, they are not coming back.  thanks.

love n kisses, the philly kid

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date: fri, 22 mar 1996 07:48:00 -0800 (pst)
from: loretta whitebread <wbread@teleport.com>
to: joe telafici <feech@proaxis.com>, gara lukas <guerag@aol.com>,
    andrea lafayette <citzinfo@teleport.com>,
    andrea lebarre <amt@teleport.com>, virginia woods <vaw@aol.com>,
    virginia woods <vaw@aol.com>,
    "erin w. kipe" <76571.1077@compuserve.com>,
    laurie <76423.1534@compuserve.com>, joyce kaikkonen <jkaikk@aol.com>,
    evening <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>, josef brinckmann <brinktrick@aol.com>,
    will borgeson <szborges@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu>,
    karen bauer <bd929@scn.org>, earline ahonima <mrsahonima@aol.com>
subject: we're fighting for the dna of all species

at about 2pm today, i'm going to be a grandmother.  i have a lot of
concerns about bringing my and all grandchildren into a world where greed
arrogantly causes the extintion of species...and eventually the extintion
of our own.

i'm driving to california to be with my daughter and new
grandchild...when i come back...i'll put my body on the line between
what's left of the old growth trees in oregon and the police.  i expect
to be arrested...i'm scared..but i'm going to do it.

please help us.  if you want to find out how...you don't have to leave
your comfortable lives...you can call, write or simply send a
contribution to oregon wildlife federation to support us.  i don't want
oregon to look like new jersey...the northwest is the last place where
any, tho few, ancient forests exist.  i'm serous about this one folks,
and if you consider yourself my friend...a friend of the planet and of
your own children..you'll do something.

call 800/283-5926 as many times as you need to stay in touch with the
defenders of your decendants heritage

you can email me and i'll send you information on how to contribute to us.
i'm able to check my email while i'm on the road.

enthusiastically,

loretta (cynthia).
here's an example from events that occured yesterday:

please feel free to repost this where you feel it will do some good.

*******************************************
subject: milennium forest being logged in the umpqua

cutting began on the first timber sale today, but a couple hours late due
to protesters blocking the road and occupying the unit.

roseburg forest products refused to agree to negations with the umpqua
national forest yesterday to trade for volume in less sensitive areas.
judge dwyer had deemed 3 other sales in the roadless area illegal in 1990,
and the forest service withdrew 2 sales, first and last, because of the
same violations. because they never had a final dwyer ruling, they can now
be cut under the logging without laws rider.

on october 3, 1996, the national marine fisheries service testified the
first and last timber sales are critical habitat areas for the endangered
umpqua searun cutthroat trout and threatened coho salmon. they are the last
unfragmented forest in the tiller ranger district. they are also in late
successional reserves, key watersheds, and roadless areas.

age measurements on trees in the first timber sale, taken yesterday,
revealed that the dominate trees are *over 1000 years old*. the forest
service has designated this area as ecologically significant old growth
(esog).

environmentalists in the area are vowing to defend this rare critical
habitat. however, roseburg forest products are determined to fall the
biggest and best trees as fast as possible. they have stopped working on
some of their other sales, such as yellow creek, and moved their fellers
over to the first timber sale. in spite days of attempted negotiations by
the forest service, rfp is determined to clearcut the area.

roseburg forest products just laid off 170 employees from their mill last
week because of a weak housing market and a overflowing mill deck. in spite
of this, they feel it is necessary to destroy this ancient roadless area as
fast as possible, just to make sure they get their illegal timber.

roseburg forest products has many rider sale units that they have already
cut the trees on but left the big timber on the ground, such as yellow
creek, where they have not yet yarded trees they cut in december.

today's protesters successfully blocked the road into the area of the first
timber sale. the loggers arrived at their road block at 6:30 am. they broke
through about an hour later, but were then confronted with dozens of
protesters in the unit to be cut. rfp started cutting anyway, ignoring the
danger to the citizens surrounding their ancient trees. at about 10:00
a.m., the forest service announced an area closure, through a bullhorn,
once on each edge of the unit. dozens of protesters, the legal owner of
these trees, refused to leave and chose to witness one of the worst
destructions of our lifetime. through the wails and whistles and cries of
agony from the people, the ancient huge trees fell to the ground, shaking
the earth.

we will not stand by quietly and let our fish and other old growth
dependent species go extinct. we will witness this logging, and we will
protest. no arrests were made.

how to get there:
     to get to "first," timber sale, take i-5 to roseburg in central
southern oregon, and take rt. 138 east (diamond lake rd). follow this road
through roseburg for 18 miles until just before glide. you'll see a sign on
your right for little river rd. (rt. 17) and
the wolf creek conservation camp. turn right onto rt.17. in 15 miles the
road number changes to 27. follow 27 for about 1.5 miles and veer right
onto rd. 2719. follow this road for about 10 miles (?) to road 2741. this
is where the closure begins. stop at the coolwater campground on rd. 27 for
maps and information on protest activities.

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at that concert i went to at red light cafe, they played the vic chestnut
song. i have no idea what it was called, but if you wanna tell me names
of some songs i could maybe figure it out... it was slow and sort of
weird sounding -- erie almost... anyway...
oh, i'm not sure if the msg i sent about vld ever got to the list
yesterday, 'cause i don't remember seeing it... it just said they're
concert at emory today  was cancelled.  but hopefully y'all did get the
msg and already know that...
  julie

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on thu, 21 mar 1996 cojehali@aol.com wrote:

> saw the following in a trade mag today:
>
> "columbia is set to release "sweet relief ii", an all-star collection of
> artists performing songs by vic chesnutt.  the lineup includes:  rem,
> smashing pumpkins, soul asylum, live, cracker, garbage, dog's eye view, mary
> margaret o'hara, sparklehorse, kristin hersh, *the indigo girls*, and
> collaborations by victoria williams/vic chesnutt; nanci griffith/hootie and
> the blowfish, and joe henry/madonna."....
>
> no word yet on actual release date or the name of the song that ig will be
> performing.....
>
> -connie :)
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i know amy has 2 (maybe 3) sisters and a brother. i'm not sure how many
siblings em has.

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on thu, 21 mar 1996, herbert huels wrote:

> a recent email to the group made me think:  do a + e have any siblings? (i know
> they do, but...)
> if anybody knows how many, etc., please (this will rob me of sleep otherwise...)
> thanx!
> -moe (simone)
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subject:      just to say hi!!!

bonjour everyone...i'm back!!!

hope you've all been having fun.  i haven't really got a lot to say
except while i was in france i bought a sarah mclachlan cd...it
seemed to be cheap and i've never seen any of her cd's in the
uk...it's called fumbling towards ecstacy...i've not had a chance to
play it yet...i only know a couple of songs by her, so it was an
impulse buy based on the fact that many of you have mentioned her in
the past.  also today i bought a jane siberry record called bound by
the beauty...a similar impulse buy...i've only ever heard her once
singing calling all angels with kd lang.  so i guess i'll be having
an eye-opening weekend re: my music collection.

had a lot of chances to listen to the few ig boots that i
have...listened to them everynight on my walkman while i was away.  i
just love the song never stop.  in fact there are so many great songs
out there that ig sing...do you think they'll ever release them on
cd...here's hoping!

before i went away i asked about ig screensavers...if there's anyone
who knows where i can get them, *please* tell me!  also, is it
possible to take pictures off the internet and use them as wallpaper
on my pc...i don't know much about what can or can't be done, so i'd
really appreciate any guidance from you web-dudes out there...and
i know you exist!!

ok, that's all for now.  its good to be back...thanks for being there
to come home to.

talk to you later

love helene

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reply-to:     sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
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from:         sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
subject:      re: ig on new compilation
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in-reply-to:  amanda ruth bakken <bakkena@stolaf.edu> "re: ig on new
              compilation" (mar 21,  9:14pm)

on mar 21,  9:14pm, amanda ruth bakken wrote:
> subject: re: ig on new compilation
> if memory serves me, he is an acoustic folk singer (i think-i've never
> heard him-i've only heard of him), who is in a wheelchair, but i'm not
> sure why he is in a wheelchair--maybe that's why it is going to be called
> "sweet relief ii."
> doesn't victoria williams have multiple sclerosis?  i can't quite remember.
> i'm sorry this was so vague.  i hope i was of help.
> gotta quit procrastinating.
> amanda
>
> on thu, 21 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu
> wrote:
>
> > who is vic chesnut?
> > thanks,
> > ben

vic chestnut is from athens, georgia and is indeed in a wheelchair due to a car
crash. apparently he had never played the guitar before the crash but as he was
recovering he had a pick attached to a glove and he learned to play.

sweet relief was indeed released to help victoria williams who has ms.

sharon

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dear eric:

>as for nigc: if any of you really like the show, and are in
>wisconsin, i'll be playing caiaphas in oshkosh wisconsin from april
>2-6 with a  local company. call any ticketmaster for ticket info...

who played that role in daemon's jcs?

sorry, i won't be there...oshkosh is a llllloooonnnggg way from las
vegas.

melissa

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on fri, 22 mar 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:

>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
>         "life is a six lane highway and i am a frog."
> --  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  -
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what mm song is this from?

love n kisses, the philly kid

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subject:      kristen hall discography

    here is the latest version of the kristen hall discography.  i
haven't bought the putamayo shelter disk yet, so don't have the info.

   unoffical discography of kristen hall

   may not be distributed for financial gain.


> indie releases

#01) kristen hall
     kristen hall/john fristoe          cs only
     1989

  from the liner: the tape was recorded live in john fristoe's living
  room except _howie_ and _it's allright_ recorded live at trackside
  tavern, decatur, ga on july 6th, 1989.

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#01.1  enough's enough                          kh
#01.2  just so you know                         kh
#01.3  fighting an urge                         kh
-
#01.4  i think it's pride                       kh/jf
#01.5  howie                                    kh
#01.6  it's all right (okay?)                   kh


#02) real life stuff            cd: cvp-2
     hetzel records             cs: ?
     1990                       vinyl: ?

   first cd release.  the album is dediated to her grandpa.
   the album was later picked up by deamon records when kristen
   released _fact & fiction_ with that label.  island was not
   included on the cassette release.  the original hetzel release
   has a different cover photo from the second hetzel pressings.
   the deamon pressings use the second hetzel cover.

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#02.1  i don't need you anyway                  kh
#02.2  it's allright                            kh
#02.3  chicago 5am                              kh
#02.4  truth hurts (don't it)                   kh
#02.5  grandpa's song                           kh
#02.6  not since i found you                    kh
#02.7  howie
#02.8  change your mind                         kh
#02.9  just so you know                         kh
#02.10 stranger in my bed                       kh
#02.11 fade away blind                          kh
#02.12 island                                   kh

#03) kristen hall band bootleg
     ?                          cs only
     199?

   the band consists of: simone simonton (drums), dave franklin (bass),
   cooper tisdale (guitar) and kristen hall (guitar, vocals).  there
   isn't a copyright date on the tape, so i'm unsure exactly when it
   was released.  victor wertz has a copy that has a j-card with the
   following information: songwriter's demos - october-november.
   he believes that this was produced to fulfill her songwriting contract
   with bmg.

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#03.1  very busy man                            kh
#03.2  not since i found you                    kh
#03.3  enough's enough                          kh
#03.4  just so you know                         kh
#03.5  trouble times                            kh
-
#03.6  too long running                         kh
#03.7  fading away                              kh
#03.8  prey to you                              kh
#03.9  bed we made                              kh

> us national releases

>> studio albums


#04) fact and fiction           cd: 72902-10316
     high street                cs: ?
     1993

   this album was originally released under the daemon records
   label but was taken over by high street when kristen signed
   with them.  the original daemon number was: 7-5053-2

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#04.1  empty promises                           kh
#04.2  too long running                         kh
#04.3  i gave everything                        kh
#04.4  i should know                            kh
#04.5  colder                                   kh
#04.6  fading away                              kh
#04.7  out in the country                       kh
#04.8  i have my reasons                        kh
#04.9  safe and warm                            kh
#04.10 bed we made                              kh
#04.11 peaches                                  kh
#04.12 trouble times                            kh
#04.13 wish i may                               kh

#05) be careful what you wish for       cd: 72902-10326-2
     high street                        cs: ?
     1994

   this is the album kristen has recorded with high street records.
   the song writing is incredible and backup musicians such has
   kristian bush, john sebastian, matthew sweet and emily saliers
   lend their hands (and voices).

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#05.1  cry tomorrow                             kh
#05.2  heaven knows                             kh
#05.3  open arms                                kh
#05.4  proud man                                kh
#05.5  nothing                                  kh
#05.6  following my compass                     kh
#05.7  prey to you                              kh
#05.8  moment in a day                          kh
#05.9  just so you know                         kh
#05.10 seeds of a lifetime                      kh
#05.11 let it rain                              kh
#05.12 don't tell me                            kh

>> cd singles

???

> uk and other european releases

???


> promotional releases

>> cd singles

#6)  radio compilation
     high street records                cd promo: wd-93-12
     1993

   from the label: special compilation for aaa & alternative radio.

time:                                   13:36
-------------------------------------------------------------
#06.1   empty promises+                 3:53    kh
#06.2   just so you know++              2:53    kh
#06.3   very busy man++                 3:22    kh
#06.4   it ain't me babe+++             3:29    bob dylan
+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)
++  from kristen hall band bootleg
+++ from a tribute to bob dylan vol.1 -
      the times they are a changing (sister ruby sis-001)


> sampler appearances

#7)  the times they are a-changin'
     sister ruby records        cd: sis 001
     1991

     bob dylan tribute album by atlanta artists

time:                                  46:12
-------------------------------------------------------------
#07.1  rainy day women #12 & 35                 [david harris]
#07.2  stuck inside of mobile with the          [catbird seat]
         memphis blues again
#07.3  tangled up in blue                       [indigo girls with drag
                                                  the river]
#07.4  buckets of rain                          [wendy bucklew]
#07.5  when the ship comes in                   [david franklin]
#07.6  i'll be your baby tonight                [michelle malone]
#07.7  it ain't me babe                         kristen hall
#07.8  if you see her say hello                 [the ethel mertz experience]
#07.9  masters of war                           [kevin kinney]
#07.10 fourth time around                       [peter williams]
#07.11 you ain't goin' nowhere                  [feel like you]
#07.12 the times they are a-changin'            [eddie owen]


#8)  putumayo presents the best of folk music: contemporary folk
     rhino records                      cd: rs-71448
     1993

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#08.1  past the point of return                 [mary black]
#08.2  irresistible targets                     [john stewart]
#08.3  hammer and a nail                        [indigo girls]
#08.4  ireland                                  [greg trooper]
#08.5  never go back                            [christine lavin]
#08.6  know when to move                        [john mccutcheon]
#08.7  play me backwards                        [joan baez]
#08.8  turning away                             [dougie maclean]
#08.9  out in the country+                      kristen hall (kh)
#08.10 who woulda thunk it                      [greg brown]
#08.11 mine fields (from years to hours)        [catie curtis]
#08.12 b.b. king was wrong                      [john gorka]
#08.13 my father's shoes                        [cliff eberhardt]
+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)

#9)  christmas present vol. 2           cd: sis 010
     sister ruby
     1993

     ltd. edition of 1000, produced by peter williams and jeff bakos

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#09.1   nutrocker                               [surfside seven]
#09.2   christmas (baby please come home)       [anne richmond boston]
#09.3   the christmas song                      [shawn mullins with
                                                        david patterson]
#09.4   christmas                               [big fish ensemble]
#09.5   christmas this yea                      [hootie and the blowfish]
#09.6   merry christmas
          (i don't want to fight tonight)       [doll squad]
#09.7   listen the snow is falling              [engine]
#09.8   i'll be home for christmas              kristen hall
#09.9   blue christmas                          [stevie t.]
#09.10  we three kings                          [dew]
#09.11  i believe in father christmas           [the backyard swings]
#09.12  merry christmas baby                    [steamroller]
#09.13  nothing but a child                     [scott roberts]
#09.14  feliz navidad                           [ottoman empire]

#10) the leak, winter '94 sampler cd
     the leak                           cd: winter 94
     1993

     the leak is a music magazine that comes with a cd.  winter '94 was
     the primier issue.

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#10.1  career moves                             [loudon wainwright iii]
#10.2  fit in                                   [anthony crawford]
#10.3  tearing down this place                  [freedy johnston]
#10.4  hidden from view                         [sara k.]
#10.5  are you happy now?                       [richard shindell]
#10.6  too long running+                4:02    kristen hall (kh)
#10.7  losin' it                                [vigilantes of love]
#10.8  wisdom                                   [david gray]
#10.9  look at the wind blow                    [ellis paul]
#10.10 time to go home                          [bill morrissey]
#10.11 egos like hairdos                        [ani difranco]
#10.12 the man who would be king                [john stewart]
#10.13 taxi                                     [the samples]
#10.14 crystal river                            [pete kennedy]
+   from fact and fiction (high street ?)

#11) true story
     soundwave studios                  cd: ?
     1994

     this cd was put out as a benifit for the task force for the
     homeless.

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#11.1  last american poet                       [billy pilgrim]
#11.1  city of sin                              [big fish ensemble]
#11.1  i've changed                             [josh joplin]
#11.1  salvation                                [wild west picture show]
#11.1  merced river road                        [david franklin]
#11.1  porch song                               [wendy bucklew]
#11.1  life during wartime at the majestic      [chief seattle]
#11.1  unheard voices                           [gerard mchugh]
#11.1  maurice                                  [five-eight]
#11.1  on the trellises                         [catbird seat]
#11.1  deep end                                 [vigilantes of love]
#11.1  hermaphrodite life                       [insane jane]
#11.1  never gonna be the same                  kristen hall
#11.1  utopia is somewhere else                 [uncle green]
#11.1  the gathering                            [michelle malone &
                                                band de soleil]
#11.1  gotta move on                            [drivin n cryin]
#11.1  street wish                              [randy blazak]


#12)  putamayo "shelter"
      rhino records                     cd:
      1994

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#12.1 ?


#12)  heartsongs                        cd:  ??
      oasis rdcordings
      1996

#13.1   world of time                           [matthew kahler]
#13.2   out of the blue sky                     [lift]
#13.4   it's allright                           [kristen hall]
#13.4   rural free delivery                     [kristian bush]
#13.5   raining                                 [three lost souls]
#13.6   static on the radio                     [kodak harrison]
#13.7   wild mountain meadow                    [gerard mchugh]
#13.8   what you need                           [tammy fowler]
#13.9   truth behind the fears                  [kilgore trout]
#13.10  m&m man                                 [uncle mark reynolds]
#13.11  out of the city                         [wendy bucklew]
#13.12  angels on fire                          [jan smith]
#13.13  anywhere but here                       [kim & kelly]
#13.14  water will find its own level           [chief seattle]
#13.15  one more ride                           [cowboy envy]
#13.16  boxes of bones                          [don conoscenti]
#13.17  me                                      [michelle penn]
#13.18  cry bitter tears                        [shawn mullins]

> guest appearances

[...this info will be compiled at a later date...]


> other information


>> official fan club

   kristen hall fan club
   c/o russell carter management
   315 w. ponce de leon ave., suite 755
   decatur, ga  30030

>> birthdays

kristen hall  b.  10-24-1963  grosse point, mi

> author and acknowledgements

this discography has been compiled by alan fleming (alanf@dorje.com)
from personal experience, albums, tapes, cds and hopefully corrections
from messages on the internet indigo girls electronic mailing list.
information on the indigo girls mailing list can be obtained by
sending "help" via email to:  listserv@netspace.org
please send corrections or additions to the author.

the format of this discography is shamelessly stolen from steve
clark's exhaustive indigo girl's discography.  stephen developed
the format so it would be easy to edit using emacs.  since i'm a
diehard vi user, i haven't conformed to his layout.

hopefully, there will soon be a long list of folks that helped fill
in the sketchy info that i have provided.  i'll even add you name to
this thing if you help out.  remember, that number again is:

   alanf@dorje.com


i've already recieved help from:
kirsten hall (thanks!)
victor k. wertz
steve clark
deb


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reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: nigc- pipe ceremony

in a message dated 96-03-19 23:38:58 est, dana writes:
> why on earth we americans feel the need
>to oppress and destroy people
>who are different from the conventional, "god loving", white bread type of
>society is beyond me.

victoria has a valid point, but i think in this case the offending term
was taken out of context, and the vehement tone of her argument
effectively contradicted the message she was trying to convey(imho).
i didn't take that as an ethnic slur in this case. i applaud dana for
learning about native american culture and issues from the source,
and beyond what is fed us by  mass media.

the indian wars are not over, the u.s.gov't is still appropriating indian
land and the f.b.i.continues to withhold documents that could prove
the injustice done to leonard peltier (the case is flimsy even without them).

the sad fact is, this country was built on racism, from the 'cant of
conquest ' brought on by the puritain colonalists, to the calculated
effort to foster racism and mistrust between the african american
slaves and the poor white folks in order to further the greed
of the ruling class (see: gabriel's rebellion, by d. edgerton).
and the list goes on and on......

there seems to be a deliberate attempt by the ruling class
(see: multinational corporations) to assure their own power
by dividing the people, pitting us against each other and
effectivly looking the other way. those who fall into this trap
are being manipulated and that is not a good thing.

the new "enemy" is the immigrant,  more specifically
south americans and asians. i actually heard someone
( an "expert")blame "the immigrant" for taking jobs because
certain companies want to hire them because the are
complacent,and will work for less.... and this hurts"real"
americans. i found it amazing that all of the blame was
placed on the immigrant and not the exploiter :-o.
thats kinda like saying; "that woman was dressed provocatively
and was vulnerable, so i had to assault her, it was
her fault. " (excuse me ?)
well... i seem to have gone on a bit of a tangent, i'm sorry.
but hey....stay informed and keep on fighting the good fight !
claire
-it is,...an astonishing fact that for almost 200 years after the
establishment of the united states, it was impossible to face
honestly what has been done to the indigenous population.-
                                                                noam chomsky
"anna mae, where are your hands ?"

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subject:      shawn mullis discography

   its been awhile since i posted the discographies that i maintain.
i'll post the shawn mullins and kristen hall discogs today, then try to
get the wendy bucklew discog posted soon.

   note that all three of these artists are on the new _heartsongs_
compilation.

   unoffical discography of shawn mullins

   may not be distributed for financial gain.


> indie releases


#01) shawn eric mullins
     sm records                         cs sm-001
     1989

    this was an indie cassette that shawn made.  about 500 copies
    were produced, and i've never seen one.  i suspect its
    virtually impossible to find, though i've heard someone mention
    it before, so perhaps they have a copy.


time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
???

#02) everchanging world
     sullivan music                     cs smg-001
     1991

    this cassette was done with a full band, so it sounds a little
    different from shawn's solo accoustic work.

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#02.1  open up your eyes                        sm/jay drummonds
#02.2  this time, last time                     sm
#02.3  plant the seed                           sm
#02.4  too proud                                sm
#02.5  the dream                                sm
-
#02.6  fly away                                 sm
#02.7  survive away                             sm
#02.8  waiting for you                          sm
#02.9  1000 miles away                          sm/jay drummonds
#02.6  everchanging world                       sm


#03) better days                cd: smg-002 [add]
     sullivan music group       cs: ?
     1992                       vinyl: ?

   first cd release.  lots of atlanta musicians play on this recording.

time: ?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#03.1  belong                                   sm
#03.2  this time/last time                      sm
#03.3  same old thing                           sm/andrew hyra
#03.4  locked in my room                        sm
#03.5  sleep alone                              sm
#03.6  the dream                                sm
#03.7  buckdance                                sm
#03.8  everchanging world                       sm
#03.9  just like me                             sm
#03.10 appalachian                              sm/kristain bush
#03.11 shed a tear                              sm
#03.12 casey's last ride+                       kris kristofferson
+ what's up in the attic (eddie's attic ar-001)

#04) big blue sky               cd: smg-003 [add]
     sullivan music group       cs: ?
     1994                       vinyl: ?

   second cd release.  this is a more stripped down album than _better
   days_.

#04.1  canyons & caverns                        sm
#04.2  lately                                   sm
#04.2  in her eyes                              sm
#04.2  another look                             sm
#04.2  the sky's the limit                      matthew kahler
#04.2  baby blue                                sm
#04.2  evolution man                            sm
#04.2  pandora                                  sm/john l. mullins
#04.2  telling you                              sm
#04.2  hawksong                                 sm
#04.2  everything                               sm
#04.2  for shari                                sm


#05) jeff's last dance vol. 1   cd:
     dreamcatcher/smg           cs: not available on cassette
     1995                       vinyl: not available on vinyl

   live cd recorded jointly with matthew kahler.  recorded at eddies
   attic on may 10, 1995.


#05.1  the frozen man                           james taylor
#05.2  same old thing                           sm
#05.3  ear of the mind                          matthew kahler
#05.4  pandora                                  sm
#05.5  roni                                     matthew kahler
#05.6  song to the self                         sm
#05.7  the sky's the limit                      matthew kahler
#05.8  lately                                   sm
#05.9  smile                                    matthew kahler
#05.10 shimmer                                  sm
#05.11 spring forward, fall back                matthew kahler
#05.12 birds                                    neil young


#06) jeff's last dance vol. 2   cd:
     dreamcatcher/smg           cs: not available on cassette
     1995                       vinyl: not available on vinyl

   live cd recorded jointly with matthew kahler.  recorded at eddies
   attic on may 10, 1995.

#06.1  buckdance                                sm
#06.2  sometimes i divide                       matthew kahler
#06.3  this time/last time                      sm
#06.4  i don't want to lose you                 matthew kahler
#06.5  canyons and caverns                      sm
#06.6  the day i've been waiting for            matthew kahler
#06.7  evolution man                            sm
#06.8  matthew's improv                         matthew kahler
#06.8  everything                               sm
#06.10 from piedmont over to juniper            matthew kahler
#06.11 clarice                                  andy offuit irwin
#06.12 money machine                            james taylor

> us national releases

>> studio albums


> sampler appearances


#07)  what's up in the attic
     eddie's attic              cd: ar001
     1992

     this double album is a series of live recordings of
     atlanta musicians doing their favorite covers.  the
     album was recorded on sept. 1, 1992 at eddie's attic in
     decatur, ga.

time:                                   long, very long
-------------------------------------------------------------
#07.1  roxanne                                  [don conoscenti]
#07.2  whole of the moon                        [kristian bush]
#07.3  in my life                               [janet mclaughlin]
#07.4  maggie's farm                            [vigilantes of love]
#07.5  happiness is a warm gun                  [seven simons]
#07.6  10 minutes                               [catbird seat]
#07.7  casey's last ride                        shawn mullins (k. kristofferson)
#07.8  louise                                   [dede vogt]
#07.9  hello in there                           [billy anderson]
#07.10 2 dollar bill                            [rick price]
#07.11 piece of my heart                        [ashley wilson]
#07.12 weakness in me                           [face of concern]
#07.13 40,000 headmen                           [caroline aiken]
#07.14 tonight i think i'm gonna go downtown    [p.s. jonah]
#07.15 tonight the bottle let me down           [ernie dale]
#07.16 the dutchman                             [eddie owen]

#07.17 who killed davey moore                   [andrew hyra]
#07.18 nothing was delivered                    [right as rain]
#07.19 stuck in the middle with you             [matthew kahler]
#07.20 4th of july                              [voodoo shoehorn]
#07.21 i'm a man you don't meet everyday        [tommy rivers]
#07.22 angel from montgomery                    [queenie mullinex]
#07.23 country comfort                          [mark reynolds]
#07.24 whippin' post                            [big sky]
#07.25 never comes the day                      [gerard mchugh]
#07.26 (you're the only one) can make me cry    [wendy bucklew]
#07.27 tokyo                                    [tommy thompson]
#07.28 will you still love me tomorrow          [kevin and elissa hadley]
#07.29 tupelo honey                             [kodac harrison]
#07.30 amazing grace                            [michelle malone]
#07.31 sunday morning coming down               [david franklin]
#07.32 build me up buttercup                    [anne richmond boston]


#08)  christmas present vol. 2           cd: sis 010
     sister ruby
     1993

     ltd. edition of 1000, produced by peter williams and jeff bakos

time:
-------------------------------------------------------------
#08.1   nutrocker                               [surfside seven]
#08.2   christmas (baby please come home)       [anne richmond boston]
#08.3   the christmas song                      [shawn mullins with
                                                        david patterson]
#08.4   christmas                               [big fish ensemble]
#08.5   christmas this yea                      [hootie and the blowfish]
#08.6   merry christmas
          (i don't want to fight tonight)       [doll squad]
#08.7   listen the snow is falling              [engine]
#08.8   i'll be home for christmas              [kristen hall]
#08.9   blue christmas                          [stevie t.]
#08.10  we three kings                          [dew]
#08.11  i believe in father christmas           [the backyard swings]
#08.12  merry christmas baby                    [steamroller]
#08.13  nothing but a child                     [scott roberts]
#08.14  feliz navidad                           [ottoman empire]

#09)  heartsongs                        cd:  ??
      oasis rdcordings
      1996

#09.1   world of time                           [matthew kahler]
#09.2   out of the blue sky                     [lift]
#09.4   it's allright                           [kristen hall]
#09.4   rural free delivery                     [kristian bush]
#09.5   raining                                 [three lost souls]
#09.6   static on the radio                     [kodak harrison]
#09.7   wild mountain meadow                    [gerard mchugh]
#09.8   what you need                           [tammy fowler]
#09.9   truth behind the fears                  [kilgore trout]
#09.10  m&m man                                 [uncle mark reynolds]
#09.11  out of the city                         [wendy bucklew]
#09.12  angels on fire                          [jan smith]
#09.13  anywhere but here                       [kim & kelly]
#09.14  water will find its own level           [chief seattle]
#09.15  one more ride                           [cowboy envy]
#09.16  boxes of bones                          [don conoscenti]
#09.17  me                                      [michelle penn]
#09.18  cry bitter tears                        [shawn mullins]

> guest appearances

[...wimper...this info will be compiled at a later date...]


> other information


>> contact address

   smg records
   2103 n. decatur rd, suite 124
   decatur, ga  30033
   1-800-544-2886


>> birthdays

shawn mullins  b.  3-8-68

> author and acknowledgements

this discography has been compiled by alan fleming (alanf@dorje.com)
from personal experience, albums, tapes, cds and hopefully corrections
from messages on the internet indigo girls electronic mailing list.
information on the indigo girls mailing list can be obtained by
sending "help" via email to:  listserv@netspace.org
please send corrections or additions to the author.

the format of this discography is shamelessly stolen from stephen
clark's exhaustive indigo girl's discography.  stephen developed
the format so it would be easy to edit using emacs.  since i'm a
diehard vi user, i haven't completely conformed to his layout.

hopefully, there will soon be a long list of folks that helped fill
in the sketchy info that i have provided.  i'll even add you name to
this thing if you help out.  remember, that number again is:

   alanf@dorje.com

thanks:
   first and foremost to shawn mullins for providing me with some of
     this info.  he has been very generous in answering my questions.


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think peace.
- alan (alanf@dorje.com)
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date:         fri, 22 mar 1996 19:08:46 -0500
reply-to:     poohgrl816@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         poohgrl816@aol.com
subject:      nigc: carole king and janis ian

folks, these oldies but goodies are fantastic.  my mom used to play them when
i was a little girl and they bring back such good memories.  i like to hear
the stories of all you moms who play ig's with your kids.  they will
remember.....have a great weekend.

"feeling funny and free"

pooh

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date:         fri, 22 mar 1996 19:38:42 -0500
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from:         karrie bowen <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
subject:      jesus christ superstar

for one year i have known of this cd, and have not had the fundage whenever i have seen it.  tonight, i had the fundage.

forget jesus christ.
amy ray is god.

karrie  :-)

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from:         karrie bowen <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
subject:      fatal crashes

ok, i am reading a day old digest... bear with me if someone else has already
suggested this.

i by no means think that emily has a birrage of car crash references in her
songs, however, we do all recognize that the poor girl is afraid to fly,
right?  three cases in point....

1.  the entire song airplane says it all.

2.  in the new a watershed video, she and amy are discussing world falls and
    amy's problem with death being the split second your soul leaves  your
    body, and emily says, "she doesn't worry about disasters..." (or something
    to that affect.  i can't check... my friend has borrowed it..)  maybe
    e worries too much about accidental death, sorta like me.

3.  and check out the plane crash reference in the video of galieleo.  it
    is by emily!!!!

any thoughts?

karrie

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date:         sat, 23 mar 1996 01:31:00 ut
reply-to:     paul lucente <mahavishnu@msn.com>
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from:         paul lucente <mahavishnu@msn.com>
subject:      re: watershed-10 yrs underground video

i have to disagree with you melissa.

while the video is definitely required reading for any true blue ig fan, i
don't recommend purchasing it.  i found the video to be somewhat
disappointing.  if you add up all the "mtv" videos, about half the tape is
gone.  maybe its because in general i don't find these kinds of videos that
interesting, but i would much rather have seen more of the footage from their
"home movies."  there must have been hours and hours of tape that they edited
to put this together, i'd jump at the chance to see more of it.

wouldn't you have loved to have seen a tune or two from those early days at
the little 5 points pub rather than the galileo video? i sure would have.

uptown lounge is definitely more bang for the buck.  being a big fan of
concert recordings, i think having a video of a live ig performance at a time
when they were not quite big names is as good as gold.  i watch this tape way
more than watershed.

jimmy- if money's tight, i would most definitely recommend uptown lounge over
watershed.

paul

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from:   indigo girls mailing list on behalf of m gordon
sent:   tuesday, march 19, 1996 10:26 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        watershed-10 yrs underground video

dear jimmy & everyone....

>"indigo girls: watershed" is described as 10 years of underground
video.  i
>was curious what "underground" means and how it compares to live at
the
>uptown.

this is not a concert, but their own video shot throughout the years.
great video -- buy it!.

as far as better or worse than latu, both are good.  watershed is a
bit more enlightening, but then you have more years of video etc to
look on.

melissa

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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      this fan tour revisited

hi all.  just updating everyone about the new orleans fan tour.  i wanted to
thank everyone who has shown their support of this idea and who are going to
be staying in the la quinta inn-airport in new orleans.  i think we are all
going to have a wonderful time.  i spoke to the hotel today, and they have
received my check and will be issuing me a confirmation for the rooms that i
have booked on tuesday.  i have also been able to hold on to 10 rooms for
may 1-4 until april 26.  thus if anybody still needs a cheap room in new
orleans, i can help you out.  the cost is still $132 per night for a room.
to keep things simple, i will not be selling single spaces, but if you want
to save money, i will try to help match people together into rooms or try to
squeeze you into spaces that are available in rooms that have already been
purchased.  if you have any questions, e-mail me or call me at (908)418-0721.
again, thanks for the support and i look forward to hearing from you.  talk
to ya soon.

let it grow

bert


ps - i wholeheartedly recommmend watershed (the video).  if for no
other reason than to see amy wear the t-shirt that i gave her.

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subject:      re: watershed-10 yrs underground vi
x-to:         mahavishnu@msn.com

dear paul:

on 3/23 you wrote...

   i have to disagree with you melissa.

   while the video is definitely required reading for any true blue
ig fan, i
   don't recommend purchasing it.  i found the video to be somewhat
   disappointing.  if you add up all the "mtv" videos, about half the
tape is
   gone.  maybe its because in general i don't find these kinds of
videos that
   interesting, but i would much rather have seen more of the footage
from their
   "home movies."  there must have been hours and hours of tape that
they edited
   to put this together, i'd jump at the chance to see more of it.

paul, you don't have to disagree with me, but it's ok if you do.
personally, as an ig fan, i'd love to see more of the home movie
stuff.  heck, the tape is about 65 minutes long & i would have loved
it to be 3 hrs long, if you want to know the truth.

then i ask myself, "why does epic put out a video like this?"
answer:  for those who haven't had the opportunity to see any of the
epic produced & promoted videos (which promotes cd sales), here is an
opportunity.  ok, i don't have the videos offered in "watershed" and
am happy to have them.  now we can hope there's a "watershed ii"
which has more of the items you suggested.  what do you think?

melissa
"who enjoys both live at the uptown & watershed"

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subject:      jazz festival n.o. info

i was pokin' my nose around on the jazzfest website,
check it out:  <http://www.nojazzfest.com>

for those of you who dont have access to the web here is the faq they had
on the site. this tells you how to pre-order your ticket for the heritage
festival (saves you $5). remember, ig will be playing at the heritage
fesival on may 2nd. i noticed michelle shocked will also be there on may
2nd. =) and of course the big night concert for ig is may 4th but everyone
going prolly has their tickets for that already.

notice there is also airline discount info in here...

i dont know when ig are scheduled to perform yet on may 2nd :(

<begin>

the following are answers to some of your most frequently asked questions

when and where is the jazz festival?

the jazz & heritage festival takes place april 26 - may 5, 1996. the
festival is broken into two parts, the heritage fair and the evening
concerts. the heritage fair takes place at the new orleans fair grounds
race course centrally located 5 minutes from the french quarter. the
heritage fair runs from 11:00 am to 7:00 pm april 26,27,28 and may
2,3,4,5. the evening concerts take place at various venues throughout the
city over the ten day period.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
how much are tickets?

adult tickets to the heritage are $10 in advance and $15 at the fair
grounds gate. tickets are $1.50 in advance and $2 at the gate for children
under twelve years of age. evening concert tickets vary depending on the
concert.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
where can i get tickets?

tickets are available through any ticketmaster outlet or to charge by
phone call ticketmaster at 1-800-488-5252 outside of louisiana or 504-
522-5555 within the state.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
does the festival sell out?

the heritage fair does not sellout, but it is less expensive to buy your
tickets in advance. you do receive a $5 discount from the gate price if
you purchase the tickets in advance. the evening concerts can sellout and
most are reserved seating so it is a good idea to buy tickets in advance.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
do you have any travel information?

the official tour operator of the jazz festival is tours by andrea. for
travel information call 1-800-535-2732. the sheraton new orleans is the
festivals host hotel. for reservations call 504-535-8747 or
1-800-325-3535. continental airlines is the official airline. for special
rates call 1-800-468- 7022 and give discount code #n6ynzl.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
is it too late to get a hotel?

it is never too late, rooms become available off and on as reservations
are released leading up to the event. a hotel that may have no rooms
available on march 30th, but may have ten rooms available on april 15th.
just keep checking.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
what about camping and tourist information?

contact the new orleans tourist commission at 504-566-5011.
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date:         sat, 23 mar 1996 12:32:05 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      to joan:  re:  the acoustic guitar article

this is just for joan morrison to tell her i got the article she sent me ...
it's brilliant, thanks a lot.   the article is now on my web page at:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/indigo/power2.html

the chord chart for "hammer and a nail" will probably follow.

mat

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: fatal crash (death themes) (fwd)

concerning the list of references that i posted a few days ago, here's
another post on that thread on alt.music.indigo-girls about how cheery rites
of passage is ... from adam schneider who runs the ig guitar archives ...

mat

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date: 19 mar 1996 02:22:08 -0600
from: adam c schneider <schn0170@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: re: fatal crash (death themes)

i missed the start of this thread, but i gather it has something to do with
death themes in ig songs.  first of all, i don't think "ghost" is about a
dead lover... no way, nohow.  but the theme is there nevertheless.  in fact,
look at that entire album...

three hits: about a guy who killed himself.
galileo: reincarnation.
ghost: a ghost is a dead person.
joking: "i'm a dying man, and i don't know what for."
jonas & ezekial: "prophets in the graveyard."
romeo & juliet: they both killed themselves; "gonna love you till i die."
virginia woolf: she killed herself.
chickenman: "all the carnage of my journeys."  lots of dead animals.
airplane: fear of death.
cedar tree: "for every wife you buried...."

that's all but 3 songs, and joking is the only one that's even a little
bit of a stretch!

i'm not usually one to delve into meanings and metaphors (usually i just
like the guitar parts), but this album really jumps out at me as having
some pretty dark undercurrents.  the ironic thing is that critics praised
them for "finally lightening up" with songs like galileo and airplane (two
of my least favorite ig tunes, by the way).

the themes are there in _so_ as well (touch me fall, dead man's hill,
this train, maybe fare thee well), but not nearly as much as on _rop_.

adam


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      if you want guitar chords for mary chapin carpenter, indigo girls,
       mary karlzen, nanci griffith, etc., go to my world wide web page:
               http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/m161/schn0170/acs.html
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melissa,

my apologies if the tone of my initial message sounded at all antagonistic,
that was not my intention at all!  being that jim aked for input about the 2
video releases, i was merely offering him (and anyone else interested) a
different opinion.

as for the intent of releasing watershed, you are probably right on the money.
for those interested in having the actual epic music-videos, this collection
is pay dirt.  i still don't think the subtitle "10 years of underground video"
is entirely accurate.  here's hoping that something more along those lines is
forthcoming in the near future.

paul

p.s. a few years back, late '89 i believe, the girls made an appearance on a
late night music program hosted by david sanborn.  i can't remember the name
of the show to save my life.  anyhow, i used to have a recording of their
appearance, and lent it to someone a few years ago, and they lost it.  does
anyone remember this?  does anyone have a recording of it they would be
willing to share?  i recall that they performed two tunes, "prince of
darkness" as a duo, and then i think "land of canaan" with the house band and
d.s.  also there was a short interview segment if memory serves.  please email
me privately if you can in any way help out.  thanks all!

----------
from:   m gordon
sent:   friday, march 22, 1996 1:02 am
to:     indigo-girls@netspace.org; paul lucente
subject:        re: watershed-10 yrs underground vi

dear paul:

on 3/23 you wrote...

   i have to disagree with you melissa.

   while the video is definitely required reading for any true blue
ig fan, i
   don't recommend purchasing it.  i found the video to be somewhat
   disappointing.  if you add up all the "mtv" videos, about half the
tape is
   gone.  maybe its because in general i don't find these kinds of
videos that
   interesting, but i would much rather have seen more of the footage
from their
   "home movies."  there must have been hours and hours of tape that
they edited
   to put this together, i'd jump at the chance to see more of it.

paul, you don't have to disagree with me, but it's ok if you do.
personally, as an ig fan, i'd love to see more of the home movie
stuff.  heck, the tape is about 65 minutes long & i would have loved
it to be 3 hrs long, if you want to know the truth.

then i ask myself, "why does epic put out a video like this?"
answer:  for those who haven't had the opportunity to see any of the
epic produced & promoted videos (which promotes cd sales), here is an
opportunity.  ok, i don't have the videos offered in "watershed" and
am happy to have them.  now we can hope there's a "watershed ii"
which has more of the items you suggested.  what do you think?

melissa
"who enjoys both live at the uptown & watershed"

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reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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from:         janinsdale@aol.com
subject:      re: watershed-10 yrs underground video
x-to:         mahavishnu@msn.com

in a message dated 96-03-22 21:40:34 est, mahavishnu@msn.com (paul lucente)
writes:

>wouldn't you have loved to have seen a tune or two from those early days at
>the little 5 points pub rather than the galileo video? i sure would have.

paul,

i had never seen the galileo video, but seeing some of that stuff from little
5 points would be great too.  i really like watershed, but of course, i wish
it were about 10 hours long!!!

jan

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date:         sat, 23 mar 1996 14:12:04 -0800
reply-to:     linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
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from:         linda joanne napikoski <napikosk@chaph.usc.edu>
subject:      crashes, fire, themes, death, etc.

ok, first of all, neil is hilarious. there needs to be some kind of nobel
prize for internet sarcasm or something.

well, i'm just a bit curious though...why did everyone's feathers get so
ruffled in the first place? it was as if everyone felt compelled to say
"no no no! look, ghost really means this and power of two means this so
emily did *not* know someone in a fatal crash" when really, she *might*
have known someone in a fatal crash. who knows? not that that changes
anything. i just thought it was funny how many comments i saw, on the
list and private email, that showed people really freaked out.

i mean, hey. look at amy. fire, fire, fire...strange fire, blood and
fire, are you on fire...imagine if someone pre-swamp  had said, "i bet
amy had some traumatic experience with fire and that's why she uses the
word in so many songs..."   everyone might have said "no! it's just
symbolism don't you get anything" and then along comes dead man's hill
and there you go. of course it doesn't mean her fire imagery wasn't
symbolic...but it does mean that someone can be led to a wacky conclusion
that might actually be right. discuss the incredible depth of emily's
songs, definitely. but must we get all freaked out about the thought of
there really having been a crash? well, at least it was a fairly painless
and flame-free discussion...   :)

"some other fool across the ocean years ago -----> must have crashed<-----
his little airplane..."   emily


curiouser and curiouser,
linda

        "his city is the 'music capital of the world,' new york mayor
         rudy giuliani proclaimed wednesday after the big apple was
         chosen over l.a. to host the 1997 grammys. 'this is the
         difference between a city that's for real and a city (los angeles)
         that's on tape,' his honor added."       --the la times

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i totally disagree. it all depends if you like videos. its' not like you
get to see their videos everyday afterall. i had actually seen none of
their videos before "watershed" came out(grammer?). anyway i definately
think its' on the must buy list for any ig fan:)
ben

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subject:      watershed...a connection?

after reading a lot about the watershed video, i just made a mental
connection. around october the university showed a satelite broadcast
of a ig tribute, with interviews, and a lot of stuff including video
clips. i vowed to track down a copy no matter what, because it was so
powerful. (btw...this made me fall in love with rop, which i had not
yet heard)
now i'm wondering...i lost the flyer, but could this be the same as
the watershed video? if anyone saw this, or if someone can describe
watershed to me, i would be eternally grateful.
btw...did i mention that i really loved this video? i was scribbling
away in the pitch black trying to catch the quotes in the galileo
video.
...and now back to your regularly schedualed rambling...
eric.

                                                                   eric d. thiel

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sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lucy whitten <lucy14@track.uwra.ac.au>
subject:      ===>> free 1 yr. magazine sub sent worldwide- 284+ popular usa
              titles

-----> note:   please first read my note which appears below the "request
for more info form."  then, to get more info, just fill out the "request
for more info" form completely and *fax* or *smail* it back to the company.
you will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

important notice for those faxing in their reply:  please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  if you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  this is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
    with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  this last
    provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
    via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
note:  their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.  if you
have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at
work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or
first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
request for more info:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                              718-967-1550 in the usa

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                         magazine club inquiry center
                                         att. free catalogue-by-email dept.
                                         po box 990
                                         staten island ny  10312-0990

sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  if you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  if you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

---> sorry, but no handwritten forms will be acknowledged.
        must be typed-out on your computer or typewriter. <---

name:
internet email address:
smail home address:
city-state-zip:
country:
work tel. #:
work fax #:
home tel. #:
home fax #:

how did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  referral by:  lucy whitten.
032296-l

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

name of usa mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

name of usa mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


catalogue format options:
1.  19-part email- can be read by everyone (~525 k total).
2.  for more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525k - you
     must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
     open it with your word processor.  if in doubt, don't ask for this
     version.  this isn't for internet *newbies.* better to order option 1
     and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
     with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
     to deal with this option.
3.  for more advanced macintosh computer users: compressed attached
     text file, created with a stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
      ~133k.  can be decompressed by any macintosh computer user; no
     special expansion software or knowledge of stuffit (tm) needed.  you
     just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
     (unstuffs). this is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
     you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  it will cut
     your download time by 75%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in
     option #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
     able to do.
4.  for expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
     stuffit(tm),  ~114k.  can be decompressed by any computer user who
     has expansion software to decompress (expand) stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
     this is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
     download time by 78%.   expands out to the same ~525k file in option
     #2.  see option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.

hi fellow 'netters,

my name is lucy whitten and i recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the usa that has a free 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and i have been very pleased with them.
they have over 1,500 different usa titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   as for computer magazines from the usa, they
more of a selection than i ever knew even existed.  they have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

within the usa, for their usa members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  this is their price
guarantee.

overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for usa magazines.  on some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  they
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   in the usa, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  they are so cheap in the usa!   well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  they are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the usa and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   this is their price guarantee.  around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited english as a 2nd language.

their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

please do not email me as i am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
i don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

they guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal i have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but i have never found a lower rate yet.
they assured me that if i ever do, they will beat it.

they have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as i
haved moved from one country to another.

they have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the usa.   they will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
usa titles they sell.

they can arrange delivery to virtually any country and i think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  outside the usa there is a
charge for fph (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  i have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  they even helped me with an address change
when i moved from one country to another.

the owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   when he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  he is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (i
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via e-mail.

he has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  if you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but i think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, i guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

he only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  when i got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  i think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  i am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

they will send you their deluxe email catalogue (around 525k-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  it has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

they then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

once you get in, you'll love them. i do.


sincerely,

lucy whitten


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  it is a great deal!  if you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   if you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for christmas,
chanukah or any other occasion.  please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   i will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
thank you.

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date:         sun, 24 mar 1996 08:49:16 -0600
reply-to:     the searcher <kidfears@tfsksu.net>
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from:         the searcher <kidfears@tfsksu.net>
subject:      magazine offer -- addresses to bounce email to

these two addresses seem to be the place to bounce this latest one back to:
astill@aksi.net
root@aksi.net

(the astill@aksi.net came from the x-sender line off the headers for that email)

marianne

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subject:      re: magazine offer -- addresses to bounce email to

> these two addresses seem to be the place to bounce this latest one back to:
> astill@aksi.net
> root@aksi.net
just curious, but has anyone considered makeing the list so that you
have to be subbed to post? this would prevent these mailers, as well
as any junk mail from people trying to sub. i'm not sure if this
list's admin. reads it, so it may not work, but if (s)he does read
the list, it wouldn't be hard to forward the few legit messages that
may come in from non-subscribers...
any comments?

i'm done...
cee you all in 5 days...
eric.

                                                                   eric d. thiel

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                                   keep your politics out of my life.
           let those who are opposed to pornography lock themselves in a closet.
they are a minority, but are getting their way because we are too lazy to stop them.
                                 do something...before it's too late.
                                            i have spoken.
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date:         sun, 24 mar 1996 18:25:14 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: magazine offer -- addresses to bounce email to
x-to:         go go gadget metro!!! <eric.d.thiel-1@tc.umn.edu>
in-reply-to:  <315572c534ca004@mhub0.tc.umn.edu>

on sun, 24 mar 1996, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:

> > these two addresses seem to be the place to bounce this latest one back to:
> > astill@aksi.net
> > root@aksi.net
> just curious, but has anyone considered makeing the list so that you
> have to be subbed to post? this would prevent these mailers, as well
> as any junk mail from people trying to sub. i'm not sure if this
> list's admin. reads it, so it may not work, but if (s)he does read
> the list, it wouldn't be hard to forward the few legit messages that
> may come in from non-subscribers...
> any comments?

why not have the list moderated so that spams and junk don't get sent to us?
if we ban unsubbed people from posting then it might end up filtering out
genuine announcements, possibly even from people connected to the girls (or
other musicians) themselves.   many of the idiots we've had on here have
actually been subscribers (martha, anyone?).

mat

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date:         sun, 24 mar 1996 16:34:12 -0500
reply-to:     jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
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from:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
subject:      re: magazine offer -- addresses to bounce email to
in-reply-to:  your message of "sun, 24 mar 1996 18:25:14 gmt."
              <pine.osf.3.92.960324182136.30132a-100000@osfb.aber.ac.uk>

indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk> writes:
> on sun, 24 mar 1996, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:
> > just curious, but has anyone considered makeing the list so that you
> > have to be subbed to post? this would prevent these mailers, as well
> > as any junk mail from people trying to sub. i'm not sure if this
> > list's admin. reads it, so it may not work, but if (s)he does read
> > the list, it wouldn't be hard to forward the few legit messages that
> > may come in from non-subscribers...
> > any comments?
> why not have the list moderated so that spams and junk don't get sent to us?
> if we ban unsubbed people from posting then it might end up filtering out
> genuine announcements, possibly even from people connected to the girls (or
> other musicians) themselves.   many of the idiots we've had on here have
> actually been subscribers (martha, anyone?).

what you said is exactly why the list is not set so that only
subscribed people can post.  in addition, many people read and post
from different addresses, or post from multiple ones.

as to moderation- first, think about what the rules would be.  then
think about who would do the moderation.  given the volume of this
list, even with 3 or 4 people sifting, it would likely still result in
quite a lag in postings.  plus the argument that would result from
trying to come up with what the rules would be would likely far
outnumber the posts relevant to the list..

unfortunately, there is no easy answer.

  -jude, list admin

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reply-to:     cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      small ig crisis-help!?!

hey y'all-
i'm trying to find out which/how many of ig's cd's have gone gold/platinum.
i think the self-titled went platinum, perhaps??  how 'bout the others??
does any one know for sure??  the thing is, i need to know by 6:00 p.m. cst,
today (sunday).  you'd think after twenty years of procrastination i'd learn
not to put things off till the very last minute.....oh well, if any one
reads this in time and knows some answers, i'd really really appreciate it
if you mailed me. thanks!

peace

cylinda               "i know there is strength in the differences between us
                          and i know there is comfort where we overlap"
                                              -- ani difranco

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date:         sun, 24 mar 1996 18:29:46 -0500
reply-to:     danaw1208@aol.com
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from:         danaw1208@aol.com
subject:      re: american heritage or webster's - take your pick.

hello to all in ig land,

      i am writing to hopefully put behind any ill feelings that i may have
caused between myself and other ig posters- those who posted responses
and those who didn't- please allow me to say that i am sorry for posting the
american heritage post.  i was angry when i wrote it, and i am learning that

in anger nothing gets accomplished.

    in the future i will not use the "w.b." terminology, since i
now know that many people out there in ig land feel strongly about
connotations they feel this term carries.  i never intended to offend
anyone, and apologize to those who did take offense.

   with my humble apologies,
     dana

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date:         sat, 23 mar 1996 13:50:04 -0500
reply-to:     mak allen <mallen@awod.com>
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from:         mak allen <mallen@awod.com>
subject:      birthday

dear amy,
        what do you want for your birthday?  i am=20
ready  to  shop  for  your  charleston  gift  bag  of goodies.  when are =
you coming to charleston?  we miss you and emily.  thanks for including =
my footage in the "watershed" video.  it brought back wonderful memories =
from the last 10 years.

                                i love ya,
                                        michele jacques

p. s. you can reply at my nephew's=20
email adress , mak allen, at mallen@awod.com   !  :}  =20

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reply-to:     jenni <rainbow2@iinet.net.au>
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from:         jenni <rainbow2@iinet.net.au>
subject:      watershed

hi ther from down under,
i have been on the list acouple of weeks but this is the first time i
have written in. i just had to comment on watershed the video. we
don't get a whole lot of indigo girls content over her and watershed
is like gold to me. the first time i watched it i cried as i felt
like i was sitting talking to them in my own lounge watching their
private footage. it made me feel special, and made me feel that they
care about their fans. i also have live at the uptown but find the
sound quality is poor. i think both videos are a great way of
showcasing two very talented people and which one is the 'best'
depends on what footage you already have and whether you like live
or studio recordings .
thats my view only and i think that you would enjoy both videos.
its now just over 12 months since they toured here( perth) and i am
just hanging for them to come back again!!
i just love the list, and really look forward to reading the digest
of a morning before i go to work.
as i said we are new to the list so if you are looking for netpals in
austalia, just drop us a line.
bye ya'll
jenni + linda

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date:         sat, 23 mar 1996 20:26:03 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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subject:      ig list solicitors

i write the solicitor back with a full copy of their message.  i
don't know if it matters to them, but it makes me feel better.

melissa

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date:         sun, 24 mar 1996 19:54:37 +0000
reply-to:     eric d thiel <eric.d.thiel-1@tc.umn.edu>
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comments:     authenticated sender is <thie0080@thie0080.email.umn.edu>
from:         go go gadget metro!!! <eric.d.thiel-1@tc.umn.edu>
subject:      re: magazine offer -- addresses to bounce email to
x-to:         jude shabry <hey_jude@brown.edu>
x-cc:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>

note. i said nothing about moderation. i am against that also. it is
wholly impractical, and censorship. as for the outsider messages,
other lists i am on have a "moderator" who sorts messages from
outsiders and passes the relevant ones on to the list. this person
then can direct subbers in the right direction without them getting
30 replys and starting a thread about subscribers posting to the
list.

as for the mail bombers being on the list, i doubt it. they are
professional soliciters. note that most isps will chastize users for
soliciting that stuff, so they use fake accounts. anyone else get a
message bounced back from the two last senders? *i* did. they post to
as many lists as possible, and get paid for getting people to say
they referred them. that free magazine stuff is a crock i suspect...
anyway...gotta go get the fire extinguisher...
rd&c.
eric.

> indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk> writes:
> > on sun, 24 mar 1996, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:
> > > just curious, but has anyone considered makeing the list so that you
> > > have to be subbed to post? this would prevent these mailers, as well
> > > as any junk mail from people trying to sub. i'm not sure if this
> > > list's admin. reads it, so it may not work, but if (s)he does read
> > > the list, it wouldn't be hard to forward the few legit messages that
> > > may come in from non-subscribers...
> > > any comments?
> > why not have the list moderated so that spams and junk don't get sent to us?
> > if we ban unsubbed people from posting then it might end up filtering out
> > genuine announcements, possibly even from people connected to the girls (or
> > other musicians) themselves.   many of the idiots we've had on here have
> > actually been subscribers (martha, anyone?).
>
> what you said is exactly why the list is not set so that only
> subscribed people can post.  in addition, many people read and post
> from different addresses, or post from multiple ones.
>
> as to moderation- first, think about what the rules would be.  then
> think about who would do the moderation.  given the volume of this
> list, even with 3 or 4 people sifting, it would likely still result in
> quite a lag in postings.  plus the argument that would result from
> trying to come up with what the rules would be would likely far
> outnumber the posts relevant to the list..
>
> unfortunately, there is no easy answer.
>
>   -jude, list admin
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                         fuck censorship, and those who try to impose it.
                                   keep your politics out of my life.
           let those who are opposed to pornography lock themselves in a closet.
they are a minority, but are getting their way because we are too lazy to stop them.
                                 do something...before it's too late.
                                            i have spoken.
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date:         mon, 25 mar 1996 12:16:44 +1000
reply-to:     kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
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subject:      that horrible f-word.

hello all in ig-land,

greetings from the land of lurking! yes, i've been hanging around for a
while now ( i'm a bit shy ). so what has led me to de-lurk at this point?
well, i feel compelled to speak up in the interests of historical accuracy
and although this is a really morbid topic i think it's real important for
everyone to be aware of the atrocities that have been committed against
vulnerable minorities in the past in the fervent hope that they will not
occur again in our future(s). someone (was it you pooh?) mentioned that:


>in america there are several words that are harmless in the dictionary,
>but carry a full-impact punch in our culture. fag, originally was first
>used in wwi as something that enabled tanks to cross over fox-holes, it
>then progressed to meaning a cigarette, up until today where it is a full-
>fledged hate word.

now, i'm not saying that the above account isn't accurate, but it just isn't
complete. the expression 'fag' is derived from the original word 'faggott'
which is an english word which referred to a piece of wood or kindling. the
fires which were used (by church people in times past) to burn people at the
stake (including homosexuals) were fueled by these 'faggotts'. thus the
association came to be made between 'fags' and homosexuals. i know, i know,
this is really horrible and not the sort of thing anyone wants to hear but
i have just been so horrified to hear of the push that is occurring in the
states ( and tasmania in australia) to reinstate discrimination
against gay people that i felt compelled to offer this timely reminder of
the horrors that have been perpetrated against gay people ( and indigenous
peoples and african-american peoples and jewish peoples and many more) by
hate-propagating people who claimed that 'god' was on their side.

my opinion? god is not and has never been on their side. this is one of the
things that i love so much about the indigo girls. not only is their music
full of the most exquisite beauty but they are also brave enough to say who
they are and stand up for what they believe in - to fight and speak up for
the rights of those who have been so often victimized. may we all aspire to
the same courage. but what also fills me with hope is that they represent
also, people who say - i will not be forced to give up my hope and my faith
in the goodness and the beauty of life and my hope in a just and loving
creator by those who try to misrepresent god to serve their own hateful
agendas.

anyway, i'm sorry that i had to come out of the lurking closet on
such a morbid topic but my passionate concern kinda forced my hand.
on a much more pleasant note - i just saw the watershed video on the
weekend - i love it! i really don't mind all the 'clips because we
aussie's don't get to see a lot of them here. i'd never seen the 'galileo'
clip - it's fabulous! whimsical, clever, gentle, playful - all those good
things.

anyhow, i guess now that i'm 'out' i'll stay out. i look forward to joining
you all in more pleasant conversations in the future,

love and understanding,

kristina ( yes, another one!)

^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: that horrible f-word.

on sunday, march 24, here's what  kristina wrote:

>now, i'm not saying that the above account isn't accurate, but it just isn't
>complete. the expression 'fag' is derived from the original word 'faggott'
>which is an english word which referred to a piece of wood or kindling. the
>fires which were used (by church people in times past) to burn people at the
>stake (including homosexuals) were fueled by these 'faggotts'. thus the
>association came to be made between 'fags' and homosexuals.
*******************************
i also read this information, in another mother tongue (... a history book
for gays + lesbians...) about ten years ago.  i believe the practice of
burning homosexuals at the stake is also where the expression "flaming
faggot" came from... even more descriptive +  hateful.  i meant to add my 02
worth... but was sidetracked by other happenings here in my life. i'm glad
kristina de-lurked to do so...
*****************************
>my opinion? god is not and has never been on their side. this is one of the
>things that i love so much about the indigo girls. not only is their music
>full of the most exquisite beauty but they are also brave enough to say who
>they are and stand up for what they believe in - to fight and speak up for
>the rights of those who have been so often victimized. may we all aspire to
>the same courage.
****************************
all i can add is a resounding "hear hear" ( here here? )... never had to
write it out before.....
peace all...
oh, and my friend ( tom... the one with the brain tumour ) still remains in
intensive care. his system is slowly but surely shutting down, so we're not
sure how long he'll be with us... the doctors say it could be a matter of
hours... or even weeks... very hard, this. thanks all, for asking and for
your comforting words.
sieze the day, kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: american heritage or webster's - take your pick.

hey all... i've gotten private e-mail from dana here, and this person is
really loving + nice. odd, to my way of thinking, that dana was speaking out
against intolerence + ran right into a whole other form of it. especially on
this list... being as we all love the ig + their music... you'd think that
love and commonality would set us apart as a type of people who kept an open
mind toward others... giving them the benefit of the doubt so richly
deserved by dana. let's just stuff this all way in the past... yey!
anyway... i just felt compelled to add my thoughts here... it's a long
scarey evening for me, and i'm just not up to my usual comic form of
venting. thanks for listening... i shall take off my mommy hat and climb
down from my soap box now..
peace + tolerence. kim.
*********************
>      i am writing to hopefully put behind any ill feelings that i may have
>caused between myself and other ig posters- those who posted responses
>and those who didn't- please allow me to say that i am sorry for posting the
> american heritage post.  i was angry when i wrote it, and i am learning that
>
>in anger nothing gets accomplished.
>
>    in the future i will not use the "w.b." terminology, since i
>now know that many people out there in ig land feel strongly about
>connotations they feel this term carries.  i never intended to offend
>anyone, and apologize to those who did take offense.
>
>   with my humble apologies,
>     dana
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and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: hmd, yellow feet,...
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sorry for this late respoinse..it's been a bad weekend..

> kristal asked what the line "tripping in our yellow feet" from hmd meant.  well, i
> can only give my interpretation, of course, but i do know that "yellow" is another
> word for cowardly or scared.  when you take the last two lines together:
> "tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets..."  it kind of
> makes me think of two people who are either afraid or unsure about what they are
> doing...or about to do.  as if they are afraid of being caught...  i'll let y'all
> intrepret it from there...
>

actually a friend of mine asked amy once about these lines.  amy's
response (no joke) was that they are about a slumber party she was at
adn they were wearing yellow socks.  i know...thud.  we are looking
for profound reflections and she is talking very literally about
yellow socks and a slumber party..  :)


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
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the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      "list" questions from the newbie

howdy doody !
during the short time that i have been enjoying this list
i have come up with some questions about general stuff,
so if you guys don't mind...here goes.......

1: is there an archive of the posts for this list, and can a member
get "back issues" (for lack of a better word). i'm really a glutton
for this stuff would like to familiarize myself with the history of this
list.

2: what's a "digest"? is this a monthly/weekly email of all of the
posts to this list, and is it complete or edited ? (personaly, i like to read
everything:)

3: every now and then get some posts with the heading
"indigo girls digest",whats up with this ? does it indicate that there
is some kind of a problem getting the posts delivered "back at the ranch?"

4: sometimes my posts get mixed up chronologically, so folks will be
in a deep discussion abvout some thread, and i have no idea what
they are talking about. it scares me :) is this a problem with aol or the
listserv ?

5:is it better to post resposes to a few threads in one post, or seperate
them in several short posts? i've seen it done both ways, which is less
annoying? (or does it matter ?)(it doesn't matter to me.)

6: who is the queen, and why did she close the door ?

mercy bo-cups:)
happy sunday ! (or monday !, or whatever....)
claire

"i've got to have those puppies !!!!!" (c. deville)

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date:         mon, 25 mar 1996 00:36:55 -0600
reply-to:     dana m carlson <carl0573@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
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from:         dana m carlson <carl0573@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
subject:      new orleans/newport info, please

i accidentally deleted the address for the no fest website.  could
someone please re-post it or send it privately to me, please?  i would
really appreciate it.  also, is there a similar thing for the newport
folk fest?  if one  of you kind souls out there would send me dates and
ticket info, i would be very grateful.

thanks much,
dana

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from:         erika menanteaux <mena4631@mars.rowan.edu>
organization: rowan college of nj
subject:      bootleg question mnigc

i'm stressing.  this is to the wonder ful list member who offered to
make 15 copies of a bootleg ( i forgot your name) i need the address
i lost it over break!  please help.
thank you
erika

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from:         victoria mazzone <mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu>
subject:      leaving for awhile . .

hi everybody!


i'm really sorry, but i have to leave the list (again) for awhile.  i'll
be back tho, cause i always do come back!

if anyone wants to stay in touch, please do!

i'm at mazzonev@ucs.orst.edu


stay indigo!

love n kisses, the philly kid

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subject:      my archive of posts

hey y'all,

     claire wrote in and asked...

>is there an archive of the posts for this list, and can a member
>get "back issues" (for lack of a better word). i'm really a glutton
>for this stuff would like to familiarize myself with the history of this
>list.

     i'd love to know if there is an archive also.  i've been on one form
or another of this list for over a year.  remember when there was actually
two ig lists?  we'll, there was a period when there was no list right
before this happened.  i was going through withdrawals and the only way i
made it through was by going back and reading the old mail in my mailbox.
then i got this idea about an ig list book.  this book would consist of
posts that were interesting and contained some sort of fact or other
pertinent info.  anyways, i have a hell of a lost of ig posts saved on
disks.  would y'all be interested in a booket of old ig list posts that
have good little nuggets of fact or something in them?


                                                     --sunny

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from:         carmelita stafford <carmelita_s.stafford@berea.edu>
subject:      mailing list

indigo girls mailing list

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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: my archive of posts

>then i got this idea about an ig list book.  this book would consist of
>posts that were interesting and contained some sort of fact or other
>pertinent info.  anyways, i have a hell of a lost of ig posts saved on
>disks.  would y'all be interested in a booket of old ig list posts that
>have good little nuggets of fact or something in them?

this is a terrific idea sunny! i've kept a lot of interesting posts on a
floppy and they have really provided some useful info from time to time. then
i have deleted some too that i regret losing.  would be interesting to see
what others have kept!

jude :)

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subject:      re: "list" questions:  what's "digest" mean??
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on mon, 25 mar 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> 2: what's a "digest"? is this a monthly/weekly email of all of the
> posts to this list, and is it complete or edited ? (personaly, i like to read
> everything:)

hey! i've been wanting to find this out, too.....someone who's used the
"digest" setting:  please respond to the general list for us listies that
are in the dark!! what's the difference between how i currently receive
messages (which is "accumulation-style" or whatever ya wanna call it!)
and "digest"-style?

i noticed that people who are "going away for awhile" (i.e. won't have a
chance to check their e-mail in awhile) often say they're setting the
list to "digest"....

thanks for the help!

christine  :)

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from:         "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
organization: southern college of technology
subject:      nigc: cowboy junkies!

are there any other cowboy junkies fans out there?  does anyone know if
they have an emailing list?

and, above all else: why didn't anyone tell me that they had a new album
out?!  i happened to stumble across it in, of all places, target on
saturday.  so far, it's *great*.  the title of the album is "lay it
down".

thanks!
nadyne.

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*                     a. nadyne hagon                          *
*                 cs majour, southern tech                      *
*                                                               *
* "i regret to say that we of the fbi are powerless to act in   *
*  cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way    *
*  obstructed interstate commerce."            j. edgar hoover  *
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date:         mon, 25 mar 1996 14:40:01 -0500
reply-to:     "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
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from:         "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
organization: southern college of technology
subject:      re: digest version

the digest version of the list just sends our mailings out as one big
mail.  i'm not sure exactly how it does it, but i would assume that it
just takes all the mail we send out, put it all in one big file, and send
it out as one message to the folks that are subscribed to the digest
version of the list.  they're not geting any different information, but
the way that they recieve it is slightly different.  {myself, i prefer it
this way: sometimes folks on the digest version reply to a message, and
all you get as a subject header is "re: digest #whatever", which doesn't
tell us much about the subject contained within.}

nadyne.
{who is really wishing that spring break were a bit longer and that the
olympics wouldn't mess with her school schedule so badly. :( }

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subject:      margret clayton, where are you??

margret clayton,

i sent you my sase and 5 dollars for some tapa about a month and a half
ago...i can't even remember what tape it was now, cause, well, i haven't
gotten it yet...and just wanted to make sure that everything was kosher,
and there's just some lag with the tapes...

let me know,
rebecca

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"the world was meant for me, don't bury me"
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date:         mon, 25 mar 1996 13:30:58 -0800
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      song of the day

hey! i just buzzed in for my mail and saw there was no "song of the day"
list posted... is there one + i missed it?.... i'm confused as of late, so
it wouldn't be impossible... do we just continue on with the nomads indians
+ saints cd... and so therefore today is ptntf day? ( tomorrow would then be
gwtwotwihh... but y'all've already discussed that one... ) would like to
hear ....
still waiting on tom... bless his stubborn soul : - )
peace all... keep it simple, keep it fine... kim.
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reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      nigc cowboy junkies

hey i'm a fan too. i love everything i've heard by them. the new album
your talking about. is that the new double live one my friend just got.
the poor guy is in love with the album and can't play it enough. just
wondering


peace love and lots of hugs
kristal


we are words not simply spoken
we are the deeper side of try
we are dreamers in th making
we are not afraid of why

ferron's it won't take long
as sung by the dynamic duo

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reply-to:     jennifer hall
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subject:      ptntf

what song are we up to anyway??  i think "pushing the needle too far" is
today's, but i'm not sure....but i'll do it anyway.

this song always hits me because i don't get along with so may members of
my family, and i always associate it with that.

>>see i lost something precious
>>and god'll save me
>>from losing myself

my 'something precious' was the relationship with my sisters that has since
dissolved.

>>there's a man
>>he lived in a house
>>had a family of five
>>well he blew up the windows and the doors
>>he said "i just couldn't
>>i just couldn't survive"
>>we've all been removed
>>in one way or another
>>we don't know our families
>>we don't need our brothers

my parents had 5 kids.  the women in the family (with the exception of me)
all treat their husbands like dogs.  so although my dad is still married to
my mom ( i wish they had divorced ), he is still surviving, but barely.  i
have been 'removed' from my sisters, and i don't need them.  i only wish
the last line read "we don't need our sisters" - because i do get along
with my brothers.

>>there's queen who closed the door

that's my mom and 2 sisters  - the "queens" of the family ( or so they
think ) who have closed the door's for being such *bitches* to the family -
especially the men.

>>the family that lies

yup...that's my family   ( proud smile diminishing)

>>people who turn

knives in the back from family members hurt more then from
friends/aquaintences - - don't ya think?

the thing with my family, like i said, the women feel the need to control
their men.  because i have a great relationship with my husband and i don't
control him ( nor want to ), they hate him and treat him like sh*t.  i
couldn't take them treating him like they were, but wanting to continue our
relationship as if there's nothing wrong.  the "pushing the needle too far"
is my family pushing me too far - making them force me to make a decision
between my husband and them.

not too sure of amy's point of view..seems she gets along with her family.

- jen hall

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date:         mon, 25 mar 1996 14:22:39 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      pushing the needle too far

what i love about this song is a lyric change that amy made after
nis came out...

from "...god'll save me from losing myself" to

"your god will save you...but dont lose yourself"

made the song much more personal to me and much stronger.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      local people

hi everyone:
        i'm a bit new here... anyway, just curious -- i live in central new
jersey and was wondering if anyone else on the list lived nearby.

janis
(acrobat@eden.rutgers.edu)

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subject:      nigc - peta home page

for those that are interested, there is a peta home page at:

http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/peta/

knowing that a&e believe in this organization, thought others might like it
as well.

- jen hall

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i'm go to college in vt. i'm looking for someone to jam with me
sometime! if you live in the burlington area or somewhere near, email
me!! let's be closer to fine together!

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subject:      nigc cowboy junkies

the new album (lay it down) is great, in fact all their stuff is great.
margo timmins has an incredible voice.  the double live album is "200 more
miles" and contains 10 years of live cj music.

cj is in chicago at the riveria on 4/25.  cant wait.

have a great day.

john

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hi-
out of curiosity, is either amy or emily a vegetarian?
(i don't think that was grammatically correct at all)
just wondering,
amanda

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subject:      iwtoc and other stuff

hello my dear friends on the ig list:

by now, everyone who sent me money and/or tapes should have gotten their
dubbing of in with the out crowd. if you know you sent me something
and haven't gotten anything back, please email me asap and i will
check my files....lord knows i ain't perfect, tho i try to be! :)

in other sad news, i made the gutwrenching decision today to sell
my no tickets...i simply cannot afford to go, what with a job
search going on, major car repairs, and bills out the ying yang.
so, congrats to joe hamilton and his lucky friend! ( he offered
first to buy my tix). i am so devastated i will not be meeting up
with ya'll there....next time, for sure!

happy days and lots of em!

susan
p.s. for those of you wondering about the scrapbook, i am
still planning on doing it and sending it with someone else....

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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reply-to:     "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
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subject:      yes, here is the archive info:

the archive is great fun to read, but consider the files are very large so
you will want to only get a few at a time or risk the wrath of your
sysadmin. (speaking as a sysadmin you *might* bring your system down if
you order them all at once, it would be like asking for a mailbomb -- it
all depends on how sophisticated your system is but it's not worth the
risk.)

this is taken from the intro email that was sent after i subscribed:

contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. you can get a
list of  the available archive  files by sending an  "index indigo-girls"
command to listserv@netspace.org.  you can then order these  files with a
"get indigo-girls  logxxxx" command, or using  listserv's database search
facilities. send an  "info database" command for more  information on the
latter.

if anyone would like me to forward them both emails that are sent out
after you subscribe i will, cause i have them both here in my 'listserv'
folder. :) (yes, i am a nerd, i save that sort of stuff).

kristina in wa state

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subject:      re: nigc: cowboy junkies!
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:) i love the junkies!!!
i've ordered the double disc through the mail & it's taking way too long to get
here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! argh.
:)
rick
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subject:      peta  a&e

at 05:25 pm 3/25/96 -0600, amanda wrote:
>hi-
>out of curiosity, is either amy or emily a vegetarian?
> (i don't think that was grammatically correct at all)
>just wondering,
>amanda
>
amanda...

  yes, i believe that both are vegetarian.  i have seen amy listed amongst
the vegetarian times list of celebrity veg-heads..and i am sure that i heard
emmily mention it somewhere as well.

  sher

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subject:      websites / color me grey

hi!

my name is jenn stevens and i just wanted to ask a couple questions.  i
tried to get into some of the ig websites today but a lot of them would
not let me.  is there something wrong with my server or are they
unaccessible for some reason?  from one of the sites i could access, i
found lyrics to a lot of songs i do not know.  two of them especially
hit me -- anyone but myself and erase the pain, both from color me grey.
i was wondering if anyone who has a copy of cmg would be willing to make
me a copy in exchange for a blank and an sase.  ( i do not have much to
trade, but i'm willing to do that, too!)  i would really, really
appreciate it!!  please e mail me at  jsteven1@niu.edu
thanks in advance ---  jenn stevens :)

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you will dissolve all the stones that are cast
you will learn to burn the icing sky
to melt the waxen mask ...
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subject:      i'm just curious

hi there,
i'm a new member of this mailing list and for a long time i've been
wondering how to get a hold of the indicated tapes.  if anyone knows,
could you please mail me?  i have no idea if this works or if anyone will
get this, but i thought i'd try anyway.  i feel like i'm breaking a rule
by asking on this list.  i shall be eternally grateful to anyone who replies.

love, wendell

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what's an administrative request?...so i don't do it again.

wendell lee

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from:         "w. scott whitlock" <scottw@itnet.net>
subject:      re: the movie 'priest'
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at 12:03 am 2/27/96 -0500, (eric l. nerino) wrote:
>sorry if this is an old topic, but......
>
>i just saw priest today and thought it was *really* amazing.....
>anyone else out there see it?
>
>:)
>

yeah, eric, i've seen it.  i thought it was possibly the most important
movie that has come out dealing with religion since "the last temptation of
christ."  i was so moved in some parts of it that i almost cried.  i don't
know why it was so controversial.  it amazes me that films about violence,
like true lies, got bob dole's stamp of approval, but the mere mention of
homosexuality in a movie got his unabiding hate.  priest was very sensitive,
fair, objective, and, at the same time, unwary of pulling any punches.  it's
honest at the gut level, posing realistic problems, and realistic reactions.
in short, a great film.

sorry for the stream of consciousness,

scott
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subject:      guitar experts help! ...and priest...

hello all, i'm going to get a guitar next month, and since my knowledge
on guitars is very limited (i don't even know how to play one, but just
decided that it's time to learn) i'd like to ask everyone's opinions on
what kind of guitar to get.

the reason i want to learn the guitar is of course inspired by our
indigo girls and i'm hoping to sing a some bob dylan too! i have a bob
dylan song book but is there an ig one? a piano one would be kewl too,
since i do play the piano.

i heard that there are two types of guitar: the classical one and
folksong one(?)...which one should i choose?

oh this is what the director of _priest_ has to say about the movie:
"...i think the film does say something about hypocrisy, but i'd like
people to see it as a personal drama, not an institutional one. ten
minutes have been cut for the american release--mostly from the so-called
'sex' scene. i think it's quite strange that you're not allowed to show a
bare man's butt, but you can show heads being chopped off. the problem
here is that it involves two men. it's really silly. i'd rather people
make love than kill each other. obviously, some people think differently."

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from:         "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
organization: southern college of technology
subject:      re: nigc cowboy junkies
x-to:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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the new album i'm talking about isn't the new double live!  {i bought
that one, 200 more miles, the same day that i got 1200c -- they came out
the same day. :) }  the new album is a studio album. :)

nadyne.

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subject:      re: nigc: billy pilgrim

sunny said (re: billy pilgrim):

>they also do this really fun song they call "the redneck song", it's all
>about drinking, women, elvis, car racing, etc.  it's not on any of their
>albums.

actually, the song is called "wine women whiskey" song, and it appears on
_st. christophers crossing_, a cd that they released under the (cumbersome)
name "andrew hyra and kristian bush" (which, believe it or not, are their
names :).  it's actually a pretty good cd overall.  not as consistently good
imho as the first major label one, but it has some real gems ("grandad",
"for kim's sake", "ricochet").  it also has the original versions of "get me
out of here" and "too many people".

and when i saw them live for the first time, in a small club in rochester,
ny, while melissa was doing woodstock, they did this song and i got to
scream "free bird!" at the appropriate moment.  :)

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"wasn't it you who said love was useless?
hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
- peter stuart (dog's eye view)

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: the movie 'priest'nigc
x-to:         "w. scott whitlock" <scottw@itnet.net>

scott wrote re:priest

> in short, a great film.


i agree 100%...saw it for the first time about a month ago and was
really moved by it...kind of up front in a subtle but powerful
way...if that makes sense.

and while we're talking movies, are there any movie buffs out there
in post-oscar limbo...not sure i really ever agree with their
choices, but films are a big passion of mine and i have to take an
interest...wish they would acknowledge more non-mainstream films
though...oh well...i guess that time is yet to come...

you know, i was thinking the other day, people like ig have given
some many of us so much direction, joy, emotion etc...they found
a place in life that meant they could share their heart and souls
with us all...sometimes i wish there was a way that i could do
that...in a way i feel that i have something to give the world, and
so far i know i haven't found it...wonder whether things will click
into place one day and i'll feel like i've done what my spirit set
out to do...bit rambling i know, but i haven't gone off on a tangent
like this for ages!!!

ok...i'm done!  talk to y'all later

love helene

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      re: my archive of posts

hey y'all, here's what sunny said on monday, march 25, in response to
claire's inquiry about archives :
>
>  i got this idea about an ig list book.  this book would consist of
>posts that were interesting and contained some sort of fact or other
>pertinent info.  anyways, i have a hell of a lost of ig posts saved on
>disks.  would y'all be interested in a booket of old ig list posts that
>have good little nuggets of fact or something in them?
>
i just wanted to say, i think it's a "helluva'n" idea :  - ) i'd love to
read any "back issue" stuff from here... so... sunny... do you have a
plan?... how'll you put this thing together + get it into our eager little
hands?
anyone have suggestions?...
peaceful moos... kim ( who still waits on news of tom... who just can't bear
to leave his loved ones... )
<kim fischer>
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
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     hi

     just a wee note from gail (the horse fan) to let ye ken that the horse
     home page is now up and running - for those of you not in the know,
     horse are a f-a-b-b-y scottish band - check the home page out for more
     details.

     enjoy !

     ttfn

     gail

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>i just wanted to say, i think it's a "helluva'n" idea :  - ) i'd love to
>read any "back issue" stuff from here... so... sunny... do you have a
>plan?... how'll you put this thing together + get it into our eager little
>hands?

okay, so i won't have a life for a while because i'll be organizing my
personal archive of posts into chapters of an ig list book.  after talking
with my computer genius girfriend this morning i have an idea.  after i get
everything organized into chapters i'll send a post to the list.  y'all can
e-mail me and ask for chapter 1, chapter 2, chapter 3, etc. and i will send
them to your e-mail account as an attatched file. i think this will work.
:)


                                                --sunny

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subject:      re: nigc cowboy junkies
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cj are playing in minneapolis on april 28th.  tickets went on sale on
sunday, so there are probably good seats left.  call ticketmaster if you
are interested...

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subject:      nigc...

while we're on the vaguely related topic of movies....  has anyone seen
"the incredibly true story of two girls in love"?  i rented it about
a month ago... i'm just wondering what other people think of it...
-mandy

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the incredibily true adventures...i saw it at the theatre when it forst
came out.  i thought that it was a wonderful portrayal of young gay life,
but i also thought that the movie had too much of a simple ending.  it
all seemed too easy.  and there were many stereotypes, but overall, it's
a feel good movie that i would recommend to anyone...

do i sound like a movie critic....hey...is there a major for that?  *sigh*

jas

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on tue, 26 mar 1996, clovis z=*3 wrote:

> while we're on the vaguely related topic of movies....  has anyone seen
> "the incredibly true story of two girls in love"?  i rented it about
> a month ago... i'm just wondering what other people think of it...
> -mandy
>
yeah, i saw it a few weeks ago at my friend seth's place... it was a
really good movie and the whole time you just want to go awww...cute!  i
indirectly know one of the girls in the movie...she's the middle one of
the three stuck-up friends.

noi :)

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i haven't seen that film yet...have known about it forever, but sadly
i don't think it'll ever come out here...not even on video...perhaps
i'll have more luck when i'm across in england sometime.  to jump on
the band wagon here, has anyone seen maurice...it was out years ago
and it was probably the first 'gay' film i ever saw...totally
brilliant i thought, but i really love anything by em forster!  if
you haven't seen it...it's one i recommend...

oh well...i've had my little say, so i'm going home now.

talk to you all tomorrow

love helene

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subject:      re: peta  a&e

>>out of curiosity, is either amy or emily a vegetarian?

>  yes, i believe that both are vegetarian.  i have seen amy listed amongst

yes, they're both vegetarians. amy mentions it frequently, and i once heard
emily mention that she wasn't as strict as amy, but that she just doesn't "eat
anything with a face." that struck me as kinda funny, cuz, with the exception
of eggs, milk, plants, and like...rocks, _everything_ i've ever seen has a
face. :) :)  (some rocks have a face too. depends on whether or not they've
been painted.)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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in a message dated 96-03-26 06:38:36 est, you write:

> hello all, i'm going to get a guitar next month, and since my knowledge
>on guitars is very limited (i don't even know how to play one, but just
>decided that it's time to learn) i'd like to ask everyone's opinions on
>what kind of guitar to get.

i'm interested in this too ! could those responding "cc:" me a copy?

> the reason i want to learn the guitar is of course inspired by our
>indigo girls and i'm hoping to sing a some bob dylan too! i have a bob
>dylan song book but is there an ig one?

the indigo girls have a song book for every (mainsteram) release ! :)
they are great, they give lots of info ! i found n*i*s and indigo girls
(self titled) are excellent starting points, they have some pretty easy
songs for the beginer, and playing them will guarrantee you continued
love for playing the guitar :)

later !
claire

[we are normal and we want our freedom]   (bonzo dog band)

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subject:      pushing that needle...ow !

i repeat........

who is the queen, and why did she shut the door ?

i don't understand.
:)
claire

[we are normal and we want our freedom.]
                                  (bonzo dog band)

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hello:

i joined this list just recently in the hope of finding some more ig
concert dates besides the ones in no in may and ri in august.  i'm planning
on touring the western states in late july and august and would like to
schedule my trip around a concert, club date, or whatever.

if, over the next few months, anyone on the list hears of such a thing as a
newly scheduled ig show, please either post it to the list or drop me a
note.

thank you.

bob

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i always sort of guessed that the queen is either an authority figure or
perhaps the mother figure... closing the door seems like it would just be
shutting things out, ignoring reality or denying certain types of people
or entire social situations.... i don't know. it actually makes me think
of that sinead o'connor song--"black boys on mopeds"-- the way the people
in authority are "shocked" by bombs and the like. they seem blind... with
power comes corruption, or so people say. but does power also cause some
form of selective blindness?  hmm.  the queen has the authority to
close things out but that doesn't really make them go away... sorry if
that seemed like pointless babble. i'll be going now...
   julie

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on tue, 26 mar 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> i repeat........
>
> who is the queen, and why did she shut the door ?
>
> i don't understand.
> :)
> claire
>
> [we are normal and we want our freedom.]
>                                   (bonzo dog band)
>
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subject:      re: pushing that needle & chickenman
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i'd been led to believe that the queen that shuts the door refers to
suzanne vega and her queen in 'the queen & the soldier'.....except i
can't quite remember how....

anyway...
i've just got back from a trip to san francisco on the train, and just
thought i'd tell you a little chickenman story....
i was on the train, sometime on sunday morning, somewhere in eastern
nebraska, trying desperately to find a radio station on my walkman.  i
found one.  it was called 'the b', and the first thing that i heard was a
cartoonish sketch apparently exclusively broadcast on 'the b' all about a
superhero called chickenman.  it amused me.

so there you go.

hmm,

rebecca.
(who needs sleep!!!)

on tue, 26 mar 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> i repeat........
>
> who is the queen, and why did she shut the door ?
>
> i don't understand.
> :)
> claire
>
> [we are normal and we want our freedom.]
>                                   (bonzo dog band)
>
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     punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world"
                                                        oscar wilde

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subject:      emily's joking chords...

ooh, two in row...

does anyone out there have the chords that emily plays in 'joking'???
you know, those really high ones...if you have could you (please, please,
grovel, grovel) send them my way.

thanks muchly,

rebecca.

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subject:      re: the movie 'priest'nigc
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the oscar thing was a vast improvement over what letterman did last time
(imo).  lot more classy and a lot more courteous to people giving
speeches.  i don't think braveheart really deserved to get best picture
but what do i know...

i was moved to tears by christopher reeve's appearance on the stage, and
by his words...the cinema can indeed be a force for the good and it ought
to be.  i hope producers and actors keep this at least partially in mind
in their works.  i couldn't help but think of a certain republican when
reeve was talking, as as the show cut away to a commerical, i whispered
softly to myself, "...take that senator dole..."

heartfelt rambling...
--mike

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subject:      re: nigc...

on tue, 26 mar 1996, clovis z=*3 wrote:

> while we're on the vaguely related topic of movies....  has anyone seen
> "the incredibly true story of two girls in love"?  i rented it about
> a month ago... i'm just wondering what other people think of it...
> -mandy

my girlfriend and i saw it four times in the theater when it came out
last summer.  we also saw the baltimore premiere and nicole parker's
(evie) family was sitting in the same row as us.  i think that it
is the best movie depicting gay love and life to date.  it is
refreshing to see gay teens in a movie because we have been left out
the media for too long.  the part when evie's mother finds them was
particularly realistic (and hilarious) to me because the same thing
happened to my girlfriend and i.

heather (and jenny)

i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching
with freedom, kissing the danmed, i said remember this
as how it should be.- amy ray

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i'm am so depressed "brave heart" won last night. that film was,excuse
me, a piece of pop-culture crap! with movies like "sense and sensibility"
and "dead man walking"(my favorite movie of the year) i can't believe
"brave heart" won. something is definately wrong with these award shows.
first milli vanilli for best new artist over ig, now this.
*sigh*
ben

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i liked the movie "jeffrey" alot better. i don't know a whole lot about
gay culture but this one seemed more real to life. and it has sigorney
weaver in it:)
still upset about the oscars,
ben

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in any event, i mailed my little columbia house post card yesterday and will
go the extra 15 bucks (+p&h) to get watershed.

jimmy
(was the suspense killing you?)

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subject:      nigc: more movies

hi.
sorry that my posting debut has nothing to do with the indigo girls.  i
wanted to post on world falls day (rad song!!!), but i was too stressed
out and shy and crud.

anyway, i've been hiding out in lurkland, noticing the blooming
discussion about gay and gay-ish movies.  pretty neat.  everybody seems
to be pretty happy so far with how the popular movies are representing
gays.  yup.  it sure beats the all to recent days when we were
represented as the neighborhood psycho pedophilic hairdressers!
(am i sounding too queer here?)  :-)  :-)

but just for fun and the sake of discussion, i thought i'd include
"claire of the moon."  is it me, or was that movie a tad on the cliche
(where's the darned "accent button!)  side??  gotta love that acting!
oh well.  just thought i'd throw that one out.

peace, gia

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hello!  i was wondering if anyone has heard the ig rendition of jesus christ
superstar, whatcha' think of it, and if anyone has a copy they would be willing
to trade.  i have only heard part of it and looked for it in several of the
surrounding music stores but to no avail.  unfortunately, this area seems to
have a limited selection of ig music.

carmelita

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> i liked the movie "jeffrey" alot better. i don't know a whole lot about
> gay culture but this one seemed more real to life. and it has sigorney
> weaver in it:)

i dont know that you can really comparee jeffrey to "two girls in love"
gay men vs. lesbians...gay men who are all out vs a teenage girl who
comes out (or at least is open to exploring that side of herself for
the first time).  adults vs teenageers.  both had their realistic
moments.  i prefer "two girls.." becuase it was simple, sweet, and
had a realistic scenario.  jeffrye had its funny moments too,
unquestionably, but i had a harder time buying steven weber as
a gay man.

each to their own.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
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in a message dated 96-03-26 16:50:06 est, gia writes:

>but just for fun and the sake of discussion, i thought i'd include
>"claire of the moon."  is it me, or was that movie a tad on the cliche
>(where's the darned "accent button!)  side??  gotta love that acting!
>oh well.  just thought i'd throw that one out.

i just have to ask.....are you serious, or sarcastic about the acting ?
(heh, heh...) (i thought it was pretty bad myself.....just goes to
show...just because they are your friends, it doesn't mean they can act ;)
never mind the acting though.......how about that writing ! *cringe*

looking meaninfully towards the sea with the wind blowing through
my hair (in a meaningful way:).....
claire (of the woods)

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date:         tue, 26 mar 1996 16:56:16 +2000
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subject:      nigc:  someone help me please!!!!! (digest question)

help help help!!!!  how do i get out of digest mode!!!!!  sorry to waste
bandwidth but will someone privately email me and tell me!!!!!

going crazy,
nicole

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subject:      concert schedule for march-aug

hi guys,
        you don't know me but i can't access your homepage at this end and i
need to know your concert schedule for march through aug-sept. my friend needs
an anniversary date with his wife and needs your schedule.

thanks oodles,


jimi hendricks (note spelling, nobody calls me jimi lest they be slain)

:)

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i still haven't seen "two girls" but now that i know it's out i'll be on the
lookout for it!!! i remember wanting to see it when it was in theatres!!
as for "jeffrey"- well, i'm the only gay person i know, so i don't really know
how true to the lives of gay men it is, but i definitely saw a bit of myself in
the movie.
and michael t. weiss is just sooooooooooo cute. ;)
am i the only person who thought steven weber did a good job??
rick

on tue, 26 mar 1996, "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com> wrote:
>> i liked the movie "jeffrey" alot better. i don't know a whole lot about
>> gay culture but this one seemed more real to life. and it has sigorney
>> weaver in it:)
>
>i dont know that you can really comparee jeffrey to "two girls in love"
>gay men vs. lesbians...gay men who are all out vs a teenage girl who
>comes out (or at least is open to exploring that side of herself for
>the first time).  adults vs teenageers.  both had their realistic
>moments.  i prefer "two girls.." becuase it was simple, sweet, and
>had a realistic scenario.  jeffrye had its funny moments too,
>unquestionably, but i had a harder time buying steven weber as
>a gay man.
>
>each to their own.
>
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>pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
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:) actually you can probably order jcs through daemon records or maybe, probably
even rainy day records. of course i don't have the # or address because i lost
the darn things. anybody out there who'd like to post that?
also, the jcs video is due out soon, right? :) :) :)
rick
caught sleeping again
*now listening to the pretenders: "isle of view"*

on tue, 26 mar 1996, carmelita stafford <carmelita_s.stafford@berea.edu> wrote:
>hello!  i was wondering if anyone has heard the ig rendition of jesus christ
>superstar, whatcha' think of it, and if anyone has a copy they would be willing
>to trade.  i have only heard part of it and looked for it in several of the
>surrounding music stores but to no avail.  unfortunately, this area seems to
>have a limited selection of ig music.
>
>carmelita
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am i the only one who's completely bummed that "babe" won only one award???
it was the most wonderful, imaginative movie!!!!!! :(
rick
(still has a special place in his heart for elisabeth shue)

on tue, 26 mar 1996, verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>i'm am so depressed "brave heart" won last night. that film was,excuse
>me, a piece of pop-culture crap! with movies like "sense and sensibility"
>and "dead man walking"(my favorite movie of the year) i can't believe
>"brave heart" won. something is definately wrong with these award shows.
>first milli vanilli for best new artist over ig, now this.
>*sigh*
>ben
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oh yes, i was being sarcastic.  my god, jim!  i'm a lesbian, not an actress!
actually, i have no idea whether or not the cast was gay.  but sexual
orientation has nothing to do with acting ability, talent does!  :)

what about maggie?  allrighty!  i just love the way she took meaningful
slugs from her obviously empty bottle.  and speaking of writing, was that
last part a love scene or some sort of instant replay practice for the
monday night football folks?  i didn't know that jeans that tight were
conducive to activities like those!  :)   ok, down gia!  i guess it just
serves as a very good example of what can happen when people take
themselves too seriously.  maybe five years later they looked back on it
and had a good laugh!  bye, y'all.      g.

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subject:      nigc/jump little children

hello all!  i got a lot of responces about the band jump little children.
i'm sorry that i could not write back soon, took a vacation to new orlands.
well, a little info on the band.  they are a local band that originated
in charleston south carolina. they play alot in columbia and have a large
following.  they have not been released on a major label yet but are
rumored to be signing on to one.  they have a big show this weekend(saturday)
in charleston with the charleston symphony.  they are a different kind of
sound.  the only way to decribe them would be a funcky celtic folk rock. it
may sound wierd but they are a great band.  i have a few of their bootlegs
that are just wonderful.  if anyone would like a bootleg, just drop me a line
and i would be happy to work out something! there is not much else i can say,
their music speaks for its self.  well, enough rambling. laters!
                                         skip cockrill
                                         jrcockr@univscvm.csd.sc.edu

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hey out there!  this is a reply to the ones who are thinking of buying a
guitar.  i say do it, and do it fast.  if you wanna be indigo, then get
a steel string acoustic.  and the song books really teach, though many of
the transcriptions are a little off.  if you want to learn some really
cool chord progressions, emily kicks butt-watershed, ghost, love will
come to you... anyway, strum strum strum, and sing it loud!

love, wendell

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happy birthday!!!  "...it's poetry in motion.."

hmcomey@alex.stkate.edu
"three hits"

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i was moved by christopher reeve's speech as well, and as a nurse i
couldn't help but wonder...does everyone out there even understand how
*&%$ing hard he had to work to get that far?  just his speaking voice
alone...i have heard people use the technique he used to speak with a
tracheostomy, and i've never even heard someone with modulated speech,
much less the beautiful voice he has worked so hard to regain.  that is
only the beginning....i was truly inspired by his appearance and the
strength of his spirit.

--gwen

on tue, 26 mar 1996, michael messner wrote:

> the oscar thing was a vast improvement over what letterman did last time
> (imo).  lot more classy and a lot more courteous to people giving
> speeches.  i don't think braveheart really deserved to get best picture
> but what do i know...
>
> i was moved to tears by christopher reeve's appearance on the stage, and
> by his words...the cinema can indeed be a force for the good and it ought
> to be.  i hope producers and actors keep this at least partially in mind
> in their works.  i couldn't help but think of a certain republican when
> reeve was talking, as as the show cut away to a commerical, i whispered
> softly to myself, "...take that senator dole..."
>
> heartfelt rambling...
> --mike
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subject:      jesus christ superstar
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>hello!  i was wondering if anyone has heard the ig rendition of jesus christ
>superstar, whatcha' think of it, and if anyone has a copy they would be willing
>to trade.  i have only heard part of it and looked for it in several of the
>surrounding music stores but to no avail.  unfortunately, this area seems to
>have a limited selection of ig music.

it is out on daemon records; catalogue #19006-4

you should be able to order it through any record store, or through rainy
day records.

check out the jcs page at http://www.hidwater.com/jcs/jcs.html.  that has
ordering info as well.  please don't just run a copy of someone else's cd,
because the money from the cd is raising money for gun control.


jack


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blacksburg, va 24060-0020    but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal...."
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subject:      babe (almost nigc)

hi all,

hey rick. yes, i too was bummed about the 'babe'. i love that movie!
maybe they should have asked the ig's to pen a tune for it and at least
they would have been a sure thing for 'best song'.

hmmm..... how about:

"wild, wild party at the hoggett farm" ?

see ya,

kristina

" i come from a land down under,
  where women mow and men ( make movies about cute pigs?) "

[ with apologies to "men at work"].


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subject:      two girls...

someone asked about the movie, "the incredibly true adventures..."
well, not to bring up my girlfriend again (she is a very big part of
ny life), but when i saw this movie i had to laugh.  the movie itself
was great!  it was really cute.  being a teenager it helped seeing
someone my age experiencing the same things that i was experiencing.
i realized that i wasn't crazy!  but the whole story line reminded me
of my girlfriend and i.  we started off as friends and then we just
clicked.  when we began dating, i fell in love and so did she.  the
whole thing with the parents also happened.  our parents were hell
bent on not letting us see each other and we promised each other that
we would not forget the other.  the last scene totally explains that.
now, two years later, we have kept our promises.
that's my two girls story...i think that every teenage lesbian should
go and see it.  then all the parents should be sent!!!!
oh well!  as always, jj in chicago!

"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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subject:      seals-small igc

howdy-

        just had a little story to relate:  i volunteer at the marine
mammal center in moss landing...last week we got a call to pick up a baby
elephant seal at the monterey spca, which they had picked up from a beach
in pacific grove.  it was severely underweight, and didn't put up much of
a fight when we brought it back to the center.  because i was the newest
volunteer on the "rescue," they let me name it.  since we had not yet
determined whether it was male or female, and i had to jet to make a class
that afternoon, i couldn't pick either of the obvious names for the
critter.  it had to settle for "indigo."  so, if he/she makes it, and gets
released, you northern californians may see the most-well-named elephant
seal in the state swimming off the shore.  too bad i didn't have time to
teach it any songs...

angie
shehulk@leland.stanford.edu

(who is temporarily unsubscribing to go to the women's final four this
weekend.  look for the short asian chick on the bench.  if you've got a
response, e-mail me directly.)

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subject:      the wild strawberries + heavenly creatures ( very little igc )

hi all.... i just wanted to ask if anyone has ever heard of the group the
wild strawberries?
i was in a small cafe today for lunch and the owner was playing one of their
cd's, ....
i really enjoyed what i heard of it + asked the waiter who it was, so he
told me... then
he asked if i'd ever listened to the ig's... so naturally my ears perked
up... but he got
called over to another table before he explained why he'd asked, so i never
did hear
what his reason for asking was... maybe just that their music is somewhat
the same?
does anyone have any in- put on this? i'm buying their cd tomorrow.
also, earlier on today, when the discussion got going about 2 girls... i
think i
accidently responded to a person via private e-mail rather than posting to
the list as
i'd meant to do.( sorry to who-ever received that message ) my post said
that i hadn't
seen titsotgil because it never came to theatre here + was on the shelf at a
local
video store for a couple of days, maybe + then dissapeared before i got a
chance to
watch it... "pulled from the shelf" the fellow there said. i should've
asked why
but didn't have my wits about me ( bad day ) anyhow... small town - small minds
bla bla bla... oh, in that message i also asked if anyone  had seen the
australian
movie heavenly creatures?... it's based on a true story - not really a
romantic sort
of thing... but it sounded interesting in the write up i read  way back in
june or so
of last year.
things here with our tom remain the same... very trying, this waiting game.
peace to all... kim, who will spend another long + sleepless night expecting
that
phone to ring....
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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subject:      so vinyl, rop tour books

hey all.. listen i got somethings for sale, and i thought that y'all might
be interested in them..  they are::

1- 1 black swamp ophelia- signed, *mint* condition, never been played, only
opened to see the color of it..  cost-- $30.00

2- 2 rites of passage tour books- also in *mint* condition-- sealed in
plastic bags--  $20.00 ea..

        if you want both, i'll do $45.00 on a package deal for the so and
the tour book..

please email me privately on these items if interested.

-water
water@mindspring.com

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subject:      catching up with songs of the day

hey ya'll!!  now that i'm working fulltime, i don't get to sit down with my
trusty computer every day, so if you lose track of the sotd, i'm sorry - i'll
do the best i can. since i haven't seen too many posts lately about them and
there's a lot of new people on the list, i'm going to take the proverbial
stab in the dark, and start today with gwthwotwihh.

the bareness musically in this song is so perfect - just emily, and the
guitar, and the background strings. it is the perfect foil for her
devastating lyrics, which sum up every do-gooder that i've ever met in my
life.  i was once a college student, with stars in my eyes, but underneath it
all was a basic down to earth philosophy. i guess i've always been a devil's
advocate, and people who have the attitude that their particular cause is the
only thing worth living for makes my teeth ache. there is no black and white
(only shades of grey). now if anyone can tell me who sung those lyrics, i
will be amazed! (and it was by a very famous group, at least for their time)

so, if this is girl day, wednesday will be 3 hits, thurs, galileo, and friday
joking? (i'm going by the song list in my head, so if i'm wrong, please feel
free to correct me.)

angie in kc

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 00:13:50 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         janinsdale@aol.com
subject:      re: the wild strawberries + heavenly creatures ( very little igc )
x-to:         rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca

in a message dated 96-03-26 22:40:17 est, rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca (kim
fischer) writes:

>oh, in that message i also asked if anyone  had seen the
>australian
> movie heavenly creatures?... it's based on a true story - not really a
>romantic sort
>of thing... but it sounded interesting in the write up i read  way back in
>june or so
> of last year.

yes, i saw it.  what an amazing film!! (but...slightly disturbing!!)  i took
a film class last spring, and we voted it best film of 1995.

you should see it...
jan

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 00:46:55 -0500
reply-to:     margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
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subject:      cover me grey

all the branches on the cmg tape tree have run out of inserts and i am
unable to get the original insert reprinted because it will cost $200 to
get the 20 i need.  so, if you're still waiting for your copy of cmg, the
you're one of those 20 people who won't get an original insert; this is
the cause of the delay in sending the tape to you.  i am investigating
one last option that might yield inserts that look pretty much like the
originals.  if this doesn't work, one of the tape tree branches has
graciously loaned a substitute.  in any case, i should know what will
happen with the inserts within the next week.  so i would expect your
tape within the next 2-3 weeks.  if you haven't gotten it by then, email
me.  thanks for your patience and sorry about the insert shortage!

margaret

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 00:51:09 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: nigc: more discussion of "claire" than it deserves :)
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in a message dated 96-03-26 19:09:58 est, gia writes:

>  my god, jim!  i'm a lesbian, not an actress!

heh, heh...thats pretty good ! (i laughed out loud when i read it:)

> but sexual
>orientation has nothing to do with acting ability, talent does!  :)

you got that right ! (how come the actors that play "butch" women
in movies are always so god awful ?) and the "bar scenes"(in most
"lesbian" films)...what bar is this ? *shudder*

>what about maggie?  allrighty!  i just love the way she took meaningful
>slugs from her obviously empty bottle.

i saw the previews at the pnw gay lesbian film fest, the audience
laughed at it uproariously....i knew then that we were in trouble...
that flick made me kinda embarassed to be a homo girl :)

of course i had to watch it anyway (for research purposes :).

over and out.
claire
"i'm not a madame, i'm a concierge."   (the producers)

p.s. for all you folks out there that like that peppy punky sound...
i just got sleater kinneys new cd "call the doctor" and i'm really
liking it :)

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      films...again!! and migc

in a message dated 96-03-26 22:40:17 est, rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca (kim
fischer) writes:

>oh, in that message i also asked if anyone  had seen the
>australian
> movie heavenly creatures?... it's based on a true story - not really a
>romantic sort
>of thing... but it sounded interesting in the write up i read  way back in
>june or so
> of last year.

totally brilliant film...really loved it and kate winslet has done
alright from it i think you could say!  did you all see the us
spin-off-type thing fun...i liked that one too...they have been
compared a lot, but i think they're very different films...different
aspects of love, obsession etc.  i love films that make you
think...guess it follows my taste in music...but i'm sitting here
*thinking* and it seems so long ago since i last saw a good
film...don't really get the choice over here and the cinemas are
difficult to get to without personal transport.  i really want to see
s&s and deadmanwalking...i've heard that's got a damn fine soundtrack
with the likes of mcc and suzannne vega on it...definitely one to
look out for.

well i guess it's 3hits day today...i think i'll have to bomb out
here and listen to y'all because i don't really 'get-it'...does that
sound really lame?  i'm sorry, but this is one of the few (and i mean
very few) that hasn't jumped out at me and filled my mind with
emotion and thoughts...maybe i just haven't really *listened* to it.
someone fill me in...please!?!

ok...see y'all later

love helene

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 02:00:29 -0800
reply-to:     "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
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from:         "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
subject:      3 hits...

i am going to show my ignorance here in the hope that someone will
enlighten us. :) my older brother once explained to me that a famous poet
shot himself three times in the heart before he died. so the song makes
direct references to that (re-read the lyrics). what i dont know is the
name of the poet or any more details. was my brother pulling my leg and
could someone expand on this? thanks.

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 10:01:38 +0000
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
subject:      3 hits

what a great tune !! really rouses something deep inside ya. always
reminds me of a battle cry or similar, just picture the army troops wait
to go into battle and a rousing chorus of three hits to see them trough
it.

i kinda know this is against the ig policy, but it seems to be the image
i conjure up every listen !!

jules

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from:         lisa hardaway <lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu>
subject:      re[2]: pushing that needle & chickenman
x-to:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@uiuc.edu>

          rebecca-   re-- "the b" chickenman

               i live in northeastern nebraska in a little town called
          wayne.  it is customary in this little town to hold the
          annual chicken show every summer.  yep. you heard me,
          chicken show.  people enter into contests to decide who has
          human legs most like a chicken, beaks, and squawks.  lest we
          forget the egg drop, chicken songs and fashionable chicken
          earings that are also present at this elegant event.

          i don't really claim to know what the hell they are doing,
          but it is kind of funny to hear people take pop songs and
          turn them into somthing about a chicken.  generally, i just
          leave town.

          towanda

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 08:12:11 est
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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: jesus christ superstar

the video jcs is available from daemon records, p. o. box 1207, decatur, ga
30031-1207 for $16 which includes p&h. i have a catalog somewhere around
here... oh, yes, the cd is $15.

jude :)

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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: babe (almost nigc)

yes, babe was a great movie!  videos are now appearing in supermarkets here
on the east coast but beware => they are shortened versions and not really as
interesting and fun as the real movie.

jude :)

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subject:      re: two girls...

>i realized that i wasn't crazy!  but the whole story line reminded me
>of my girlfriend and i.  we started off as friends and then we just

want you to know that i approve of you but can't praise the grammer
*<grumble>* <snort!>

it's ok to say "my girlfriend and me" when you are objecting to a
preposition, like:  of is a preposition, to is a prepostion and anything
else, i.e., around, etc that you can do to a cloud :)

for is also used many times as a preposition.  <blah!> sorry, pet peeve :)

i mean, what would em think?

sorry, even my dog kicked me out this morning :)

jude

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subject:      why won't amy acknowledge us:(

i was so excited to see amy wrote us(even if it was just for
advertisement purposes). but i was so upset when she said she couldn't
answer questions. i say we all write back to daemon records and request
and 2 day answer and question session frrom amy. maybe we could even
bribe her by saying each of us will buy a daemon release or two.
ben

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu

ben wrote:

i was so excited to see amy wrote us(even if it was just for
advertisement purposes). but i was so upset when she said she couldn't
answer questions. i say we all write back to daemon records and request
and 2 day answer and question session frrom amy. maybe we could even
bribe her by saying each of us will buy a daemon release or two.

----

when did this happen?  please don't tell me that amy wrote to the
list and i never saw/got the message...drat drat and double drat

in total confusion...

helene

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from:         yvette.smith@autodesk.com
subject:      re: seals-small igc
x-to:         angie <shehulk@leland.stanford.edu>

     this is sooo funny because i'm a supervisor on monday nights at the
     marine mammal center in sausalito, and my good friend and i on the
     crew saw that seal on monday night and just looked at each other like
     "could it be"???  we are both big ig fans, well actually i am a huge
     fan and she is a recent convert. :)  (she came over easily, though.)
     you'll be happy to know that indigo was alive and well on monday
     night.  you can also call up there any time (415-289-7351, but try not
     to call around feeding times-8,12,4,8,etc) to ask how a seal is.  all
     the volunteers understand so they are really nice about it.

     yvette

     ps - congratulations, i have been there 4+ years and i've only gotten
     to name one seal!


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author:  angie <shehulk@leland.stanford.edu> at smtpcc
date:    3/26/96 8:09 pm


howdy-

        just had a little story to relate:  i volunteer at the marine
mammal center in moss landing...last week we got a call to pick up a baby
elephant seal at the monterey spca, which they had picked up from a beach
in pacific grove.  it was severely underweight, and didn't put up much of
a fight when we brought it back to the center.  because i was the newest
volunteer on the "rescue," they let me name it.  since we had not yet
determined whether it was male or female, and i had to jet to make a class
that afternoon, i couldn't pick either of the obvious names for the
critter.  it had to settle for "indigo."  so, if he/she makes it, and gets
released, you northern californians may see the most-well-named elephant
seal in the state swimming off the shore.  too bad i didn't have time to
teach it any songs...

angie
shehulk@leland.stanford.edu

(who is temporarily unsubscribing to go to the women's final four this
weekend.  look for the short asian chick on the bench.  if you've got a
response, e-mail me directly.)

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(

( regarding ben's message about amy + daemon records)
>helene wrote:
>when did this happen?  please don't tell me that amy wrote to the
>list and i never saw/got the message...drat drat and double drat
>in total confusion...
>helene
i also am confused... when did this happen?....
anyone?....
peace... kim.
<kim fischer>
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subject:      i'm back ><}}}">

hey y'all- not that anyonw would have noticed, but i've benn gone for a
week or so- if i have missed anything real:ly important, would someone
please let me know? thanks a bunch! glad to be back :) love,katie ><}}}">

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960327095652.9805c-100000@email1.asu.edu>; from
              "verdi@imap2.asu.edu" at mar 27, 96 9:59 am

>
> i was so excited to see amy wrote us(even if it was just for
> advertisement purposes). but i was so upset when she said she couldn't
> answer questions. i say we all write back to daemon records and request
> and 2 day answer and question session frrom amy. maybe we could even
> bribe her by saying each of us will buy a daemon release or two.
> ben

yes, amy sent a mass e-mailing--i forget whether it was on the daemon
list or the ig list, but it happened about a month or so ago and ben's
right, it was basically an advertisement, but still nice to hear from
her =)

as for the subject line, i think she has acknowledged us by sending
the original post--she recognized that there is a rather large
following if all things indigo here and its a good business decision
to tap that resource (smart woman =)).

anyway, i think it would be a mistake to petition her as ben suggests.
one of the "internet stereotypes" is we get an inch, try to take a
yard -- from teh standpoint of a celebrity that's very scary.  amy and
emily know about us.  they will come to us when they are ready, and
how do you know they aren't curently lurking (or have friends that
forward choice selections).

                        just my 2 cents...

                                chris


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reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      two girls nigc

personally i saw two girls in love last smester in the theater. i thought
it was really good and damn hiliarous. an accurate portrayal of a few
peoples lives i know. i have yet to see jeoffery, but it seems to me they
are in two differnet leauges. if those among you have yet to see 'two
girls' i highly recommend it. just mu humble opinion

peace love and lots of hugs and such
kristal

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subject:      the note from amy ray (fwd)

hi y'all,

amy sent this to the daemon records list.  here's a copy.

scot


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sender: owner-daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com
precedence: bulk

welcome to daemon's new world or should i say virtual world, what is real
after all, mmmm reminds me of sandman...thanks for tuning in and all the
monetary and spiritual support. we have great new releases that you
should check out, still in keeping with our open mind, no boundaries in
music goal. indigo girls just finished working on a song for an upcoming
daemon release. the album is to benefit our honor the earth campaign, an
indigenous environmental mission. the cd will be released in august and
includes such artists as joy harjo, matthew sweet, jane siberry, soul
asylum, john trudell, and lots more.

i will keep you up to date on all daemon activities, but will not be able
to receive mail or answer...sorry. please spread the word and a big
thanks to monsterbit for making this possible.

p.s. jcs video will be ready by the end of march

                                                live long prosper
                                                        amy ray

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subject:      the other daemon mailing (fwd)

...and here's the other note from daemon sent at the same time.

scot

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monsterbit media is pleased to announce that the long
awaited daemon
records www site is now available for public consumption. the address is
sender: owner-daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com
precedence: bulk

http://monsterbit.com/daemon/

the site contains the story of daemon recs, notes from amy and some
commentary on each of the daemon records offerings. be sure to add the
site to your hotlist as we will be adding more detailed artist
information over the months. we will also be broadcasting via real/audio
and cu-seeme in mid may...confirmed shows of interest are viva la diva
(cd release party), flunky (featuring michael lorant, sheila doyle, and
amy ray), and a few other tasty tidbits.

monsterbit has added two new features to our sites:
1) credit card processing so you can now order your
favorite music through the site.

2) rapid transit audio compression for full cd quality audio at small
file sizes. this is currently available on a few jcs tracks and soon to
be on some others. all other audio files are in the .wav format

we hope these features makes it easier for everyone to support independent
music.  please send your feedback to hello@monsterbit.com

thanks.

mellie price
monsterbit media

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - <first ever> to 27 mar 1996 - special
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i just wanted to say merci mille fois to scott for posting the amy message...
i was about to throw myself at the computer when i read that she wrote some-
thing and i missed it!  (truth is i wasn't subscribed at that time...but still!)anyway, thanks......how awesome to really receive something from an ig!

lesley

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subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960327095652.9805c-100000@email1.asu.edu>

please, someone, i'm lost--is there a daemon email address?  could
someone post it??--gwen

on wed, 27 mar 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> i was so excited to see amy wrote us(even if it was just for
> advertisement purposes). but i was so upset when she said she couldn't
> answer questions. i say we all write back to daemon records and request
> and 2 day answer and question session frrom amy. maybe we could even
> bribe her by saying each of us will buy a daemon release or two.
> ben
>
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subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <1b51c4d01fb@sperrin.ulst.ac.uk>

whoo.....maybe i got confused but didn't everyone see that advertisment
from monsterbit? it told us about the new "honor the earth" cd and that
the jcs video should be out in march. i may be wrong though but wasn't it
signed :
live long prosper,
amy ray
?
ben

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 14:05:26 -0700
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      nigc-joni mitchell


i just bought "blue" yesterday and i'm really impressed. i'm suprised
more people on the list don't like her. i can see why emily was so
influenced by her:) she sorta reminds me of a female james taylor.
what are her other albums like. i heard she turned jazz, is this true? is
"turbulent indigo" like this? oh, and has emily ever fufilled her dream
to sing with her?
thanks,
ben

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 15:10:26 -0600
reply-to:     claro casey <claro@monsterbit.com>
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from:         claro casey <claro@monsterbit.com>
subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.91.960327124107.30532d-100000@paul.spu.edu>

> please, someone, i'm lost--is there a daemon email address?  could
> someone post it??--gwen

ok ya'll...here's the deal

you can subscribe to the daemon records email list by sending a message
to 'daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com'. in the body of the message type
'subscribe daemonrecs-info'...nothing more, nothing less. this will
automatically set you up. the list will be used to keep people abreast of
the latest happenings at daemon records. we will try to bring info with
some regularity.

you can always keep up with what's going on by checking out the daemon
records www site by going to http://monsterbit.com/daemon/

hope that answers everyone's questions.
thanks for supporting independent music!

mellie price
monsterbit media

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 15:17:44 -0600
reply-to:     claro casey <claro@monsterbit.com>
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from:         claro casey <claro@monsterbit.com>
subject:      daemon list correction..oops!
in-reply-to:  <pine.3.89.9603271504.a29194-0100000@monsterbit.com>

> you can subscribe to the daemon records email list by sending a message
> to 'daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com'. in the body of the message type
> 'subscribe daemonrecs-info'...nothing more, nothing less. this will

as if this weren't confusing enough i had to screw up the address. the
message needs to go to 'majordomo@monsterbit.com' (not
daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com) and then it should say 'subscribe
daemonrecs-info' in the body.

i'm really sorry about that!

mellie price
monsterbit media

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 13:32:25 -0800
reply-to:     scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
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from:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      the daemon records mailing list

hi again,

here's the note i got explaining how to add yourself to the daemon records
list...  this message contains an email address for daemon, but they've
never written me back, and besides amy ray just said that they won't be
able to receive/respond to email (why? we can only guess. maybe no one at
daemon has the time to check it or something.)  so send some if you feel
like it, but it might well not get there, and you probably won't get
anything in return.  what does work is subscribing to the mailing list,
and here's how:

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sun, 7 jan 1996 07:09:34 -0500
from: daemon records <daemonrecs@monsterbit.com>
to: scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject: re: your mail

to add yourself to the daemon records electronic mailing list please send
a message to "majordomo@monsterbit.com" (not daemonrecs@monsterbit.com)
with the command "subscribe daemonrecs-info" in the *body* of the message
(not "add me" or "put me on the list!").

please put *only* those two items in the body since the program that runs
the mailing list does not like it when other items (like "ya'll rock!" and
"you're the best!") appear in a message. we *do* appreciate your support
so please direct your comments, suggestions, and general hoopdela to
daemonrecs@monsterbit.com (not daemonrecs-info@monsterbit.com because that
is the mailing list).

all too confusing? sorry...any big problems should be directed to me at
mellie@monsterbit.com

thanks.

mellie price
monsterbit media

(end of forwarded part...)  ...btw, i don't suggest bugging mellie too
much, she's monsterbit's system admin or something like that, and probably
_isn't_ going to be able to tell you much about daemon info or what ig is
up to. =)

peace,

scot

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 17:12:21 -0800
reply-to:     harrs2e0 <harrs2e0@elon.edu>
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subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960327095652.9805c-100000@email1.asu.edu>

what is this?!?!?!?!?  did i miss something?  amy wrote to us?
-mandy

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reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      don't pay inflated prices for stuff, friends

hi all. i read with alarm that someone is trying to sell their black copy
of swamp ophelia lp (signed) for $30 bucks

okay friends, i'm here to tell you that is not a fair asking price. i bought
my black, signed copy at a record store in boulder ,co. for $10.99. there
were at least 10 on the rack i plucked it off of, less than a month ago. i visitboulder all the time (okay, maybe once or twice a month) so if they have any.
i will buy up the rest of them when i go this weekend and sell them for cost
plus postage!

i'm sorry, the item isn't so rare as to justify making tons o money off of it.
i thought you all would want to know before you jumped at this offer....

i'll post when i get back from boulder and y'all can get one, first come
first serve, okay?

sorry to squlech "free enterprise" and profit making, but we're all friends
here, and imho it has no place on this list (remember the live in sf
nbootleg fiasco?)

love love love
susan
p.s. the green signed copies of so which are pretty rare might be worht
$30, but not the black ones

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 14:46:53 -0800
reply-to:     ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
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from:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
subject:      nigc - ani defranco

hi all-

i have never seen or heard any of ani defranco's (sp?) music but i've
seen some interest on this list and i thought i'd pass on a really cool
chance to see her (them?) play.

on memorial day weekend, bob weir and mickey hart (members of the
recently departed grateful dead <sniff>) and their respective bands will
be headliners on a two day music festival near monterey.  one of the
additional performers will be ani defranco.

if you are interested, there are mail order tickets available and bass
ticket outlets will start selling tickets this weekend.  please e-mail
if you are interested and i'll forward the info to you.

peace-
ron

ps.  camping will be available.  what a way to kick off summer!!!

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 16:45:00 -0600
reply-to:     und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu
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from:         und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu
subject:      new orleans, connie, et al....

trant and bert: sorry it has taken so long to reply.....haven't been her
er..haven't been able to check my e-mail at the library...
trant did you reserve both spaces in the hotel room or just one?
lemme know....
bert: i think that if it's okay with trant, i'll share his space and
give him my share of what i owe...i can't afford a whole side to myself.
keep me posted
connie: sorry i didn't reply to your letters personally, but i had 762
e-mail messages to sift through and i couldn't send out any e-mail
until i got rid of most of it...
i'll be keeping in touch with everyone soon....

i guess this is what i get for not signing off before spring break :)

i finally got a quote!!!!! it's one of my own that i just made up
"real writers are people that wake up at 2:18 am with a brainfart and
stay up until the butt-crack of dawn writing it down!"
does it suck? lemme know....
by the way everyone: look forward to a stream of consciousness that i
wrote.....it's pretty cool..
going to work now
have a great day
sal-ray

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from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      sigc - aye, more talk of stickers!

hello, all!
      i just wanted to get an opinion.  i'm thinking of making custon bumper
stickers, our needs for pre-printed ones already having been fulfilled... (by
the way, all who ordered, they haven't arrived yet, but i'll get them out the
day after they do!)  i thought a simple
"a + e = ig" would be nice in dark blue ink on white... would any of you
partake of these?  i would have to charge either $1.50 or $1.25 per sticker
to cover the postage and printing charges.  if you would be interested, could
you send me a message entitled "interest" and tell me so, so i know if i
would have enough takers to do this?  also, if anyone has any ideas or
suggestions, please e-mail with the same subject line.  thank you for the
time, and please do reply!  if i have enough interest i'll order them
relatively soon... peace, love, and happiness, sarah

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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      re: the note from amy ray (fwd)
x-to:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.92.960327115924.1734d-100000@wisdom.stanford.edu>

could it be that amy's a fan of vertigo comic's sandman or is that in reference
to something else??
rick
still playing jewel....

on wed, 27 mar 1996, scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>date: tue, 26 mar 96 20:07 cst
>from: majordomo mail list server <majordom@monsterbit.com>
>welcome to daemon's new world or should i say virtual world, what is real
>after all, mmmm reminds me of sandman...

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reply-to:     "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
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from:         "january simpson, esq." <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      re: nigc: more discussion of "claire" than it deserves :)

>>what about maggie?  allrighty!  i just love the way she took meaningful
>>slugs from her obviously empty bottle.
>
>i saw the previews at the pnw gay lesbian film fest, the audience
>laughed at it uproariously....i knew then that we were in trouble...
>that flick made me kinda embarassed to be a homo girl :)
>
>of course i had to watch it anyway (for research purposes :).

watching this movie was, undoubtedly, one of the more scarring experiences
of my young life.  i watched it very soon after i had come to terms with
myself and it terrified me to think that this was (is?) the way we are
thought of.  i'm glad to hear other people were not impressed -- i thought
maybe there was something i just didn't quite understand or something.
sheesh *cringe* even remembering it is traumatic...

january simpson

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                        everyone must learn this lesson somewhere;
                          that it costs something to be what you are

        "i'm just a mirror of a mirror of myself; all the things that i do..."
                                -emily saliers, "least complicated"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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x-to:         h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk

helene, i don't recall ever seeing it either.

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from:         kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
subject:      re: why won't amy acknowlede us

i just subscribed to the daemon mail-list and got that amy message
as one of the response mails to my new subscription. and yes, it is
signed with the trekkie greeting and 'amy ray'.

kris.

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reply-to:     towanda <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
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from:         towanda <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
organization: the university of alabama, tuscaloosa, al
subject:      amy's message

to:           indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
in-reply-to:  amy's message

message-id:   <960327.174630.cst.kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>

   about the message that amy ray sent to the list:
               i'm not sure who this was...and i'm not gonna name names
anyway, but nobody on this list should _expect_ amy to do anything. all she
was trying to do was get the message out to a group that would spread it,
not play 21 questions.
               chris is right.  the list already has too many strikes against
it.  don't overdo it.  amy and emily are quite aware that you guys are here.
if they want to talk to you, they'll find you.

                                             --  a list lurker

  --a far out trip through a hard rock tunnel--

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reply-to:     gianina giammarinaro <gg1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         gianina giammarinaro <gg1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      amy y ani

hey there hi there ho there!

first off, i must express my glee that something amy ray wrote found itlelf
into my e-mail account.  (plus everybody else's on this list plus
countless others....)  but still!  :)  what made me even happier was
that she signed off with that timeless vulcan greeting....  i couldn't
believe it!  i used to idolize star trek!!!  i wanted to be a vulcan
back in my not too long ago youth.  even the ears seemed sexy!  sigh...

but also a response about ani difranco.  she is, for lack of a decent
vocabulary at the moment, coooooool!  she actually ventured here to
humboldt county (behind the redwood curtain, where most artists fear to
tread  :-)  last semester.  it was very crowded and this little short
person had a hard time seeing, but it was one good concert.  if you want to
see someone jam (besides the ig's),  i heartily suggest going to see her.
well there you have it.  that'll be $.02, ma'am!  :)
bye!    g.

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from:         erika menanteaux <mena4631@mars.rowan.edu>
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subject:      amy's message

"a list lurker" wrote that the list already had too many strikes
against it.....as a newbie i have no clue what he is talking about.
can anyone fill me in?

just curious,
erika

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 21:52:28 -0500
reply-to:     water <water@mindspring.com>
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from:         water <water@mindspring.com>
subject:      stephanie sayers
x-to:         atlartists@monsterbit.com

hey y'all.. so, i'm sittin' here, mindin' my own business, and as i'm
mindin' my own business, i'm also listenin' to a woman sing *wow* *what an
idea* *hahaha*-- and i close my eyes, and my mind drifts along, relaxes, and
plays with the tunes as it flows through my head..  now, what am i listening
too??  well!  look at the subject line! ha!--

no, seriously, last week stephanie sayers played at eddie's attic, in
decatur, and, tonight i was lucky enough to have a friend loan me her cd..
and i just had to let y'all know about it..

her voice reminds me of a combonation between the lead singer's of the
cranberries, and natalie merchant (of the  now defucnt 10,000 maniacs), w/ a
bit of emily saliers thrown in..   backing her voice up is not only her
guitar, but various percussion insturments- including a dobro and lap steel,
various strings-- violin, viola, cello, and on one song a toy piano..

her cd is called christmas island..  all the recordings took place in the
new york area (maybe some of y'all have heard of her), but she now based in
athens, ga.  i'm not sure where you can get the cd, but the folks at rainy
day say that they will be getting it in..

well, take care, and
*smile*
-water

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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      re: daemon adv/post (amy)

dear chris & who ever else might have a copy of the daemon post....

if you saved it, could you forward a copy to the list?

melissa

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subject:      i am so sorry for the nigc forwarding crap....i'm dumb...but igc
              exists

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ok, i am catching up on mail..... god, why is it that i have sat around with
my thumb up my butt for eight weeks, and now, all hell breaks loose in these
damn women's history classes??????
anyhoo, the reason i am posting, and i haven't gotten very far through all of
my digests, is to tell y'all where i got jcs.  i found it at barnes and noble
under various artists, but the clerk told me that sometimes it is shelved with
the ig stuff or under the soundtracks.  what is really helpful are those dumb
machines that you can find in just about any record chain.  if you type in
ig under rock, it comes up with everything legal :-) that they have done.
however, here is the daemon records address and the order numbers for anyone
who wants 'em.  shipping included, cause amy knows what it is like to want
really good music, and unfortunately, be a poor person.

daemon records
po box 1207
decatur ga  30031-1207

jcs order number   #19006   code e     $15 double cd   $9 double cassette

check or money order only
4 to 6 weeks for delivery

i just want to tell amy, if she is out there, thanks so much for supporting
new artists and making their music affordable for all of us to appreciate it.
and i hope everyone buys jcs, because amy ray has made my stuffy, opera major
best bud guy, who listens to nothing but classical and choral music and the
original broadway cast recordings say, and i quote, "holy shit! she sounds
incredible.....where can i get this?"

buy it buy it buy it buy it buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

later-

karrie

ps.  if i have repeated any info, i am sorry!!! :-)  bear with me.  i am
catching up on old mail as fast as i can.

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 21:32:28 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      jcs- the list version

i was wondering how everyone was doing with their personal jcs progress.
i've finally decided on a due date which is may 20. here's the address to
send your tapes.
  17 barnegat rd.
  chatsworth n.j.
     08019
i'll make tapes then send them out to everyone else who participated.
then you guys take the copying from there(tape tree i guess).
write back if you have anything to say,
ben

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 22:48:29 -0600
reply-to:     karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
subject:      re: amy and posting

        ben wants to 'bribe' amy for more....,  others don't know why, and
chris is right in there with a "hey - hang a minute before you do anything."
        i'm with chris.  leave amy be.  she's trying the internet marketing
thing.  she knows her fans adore her and want to spend more time with her.
(dissecting her from end to end and birth to present  :) ) i'm not the first
to say that the igs have had an incredible impact on my life through their
music, but i recognize that i probably don't have the same impact on them.
they're writers and musicians.  they  share  songs that come from the depths
of the soul and heart.  why isn't that enough?  let them have their own
lives and share with us through the music.  and i am just as much a diehard
fan as anyone else.  sure, it'd be great to get to know them on a personal
basis (or not - who knows for sure?) and really understand where the music
comes from.  but i figure my own privacy is pretty valued - i can only
imagine the demands on their lives from the fans.  so lets give her the
space and not press it?
        just a thought.  no offense meant - just my opinion.  thanks for
giving the space to express it.

yours almost moo!ing,

karen

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