lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-03e


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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 23:47:14 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      jcs

dear ben:

you wrote....

>i was wondering how everyone was doing with their personal jcs
progress.
>i've finally decided on a due date which is may 20. here's the
address to
>send your tapes.
  17 barnegat rd.
  chatsworth n.j.
     08019
>i'll make tapes then send them out to everyone else who participated.

>then you guys take the copying from there(tape tree i guess).
>write back if you have anything to say,
>ben

if jcs is available from daemon and they took the time to contact
the
list about availability, info etc., why are we talking tape tree on
the list? is this
the same jcs tape which will be available? if so, is this fair to
daemon?

melissa
"who might be taking something out of context or is being too
sensitive"

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date:         sat, 21 may 1994 10:08:11 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>

hey all... it's th day, huh?... i notice that the song is
"dedicated to the memory of a great poet, frank stanford".
does anyone know who he is?... hope i don't sound too
stupid... just never heard of him.... and if the song is about
a poet ( frank stanford? ) who commited suicide by
shooting himself 3 ><  in the heart... ( i can't remember who
posted thay query ) would that be the reference in the
words "i would painfully remind you from a wise man to a
red hand you lay covered in our best sins" ????  the song
leaves me with many questions... hope someone out there
in ig list land has some answers :  )
news from my world:  my friend tom actually woke up out
of his semi-coma enough to be talking + at times making sense...
( complimented me on what i was wearing... old smoothie )
he sat up for a short period of time today... but that really
wore him out...  he is so stubborn... he may surprise the you-
know- what- out of us all here and make a partial recovery : -) !!!!!
we'll see. doom + gloomists tell us that this sort of thing ( the
wake up + lucidness ) is pretty common right before the end,
but the doctors are all impressed that he even woke up in the
first place.... there is a smile on this face that just won't
quit. sorry this is so long... but i just had to share.
thanks all for your prayers etc.
peace... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
*************************************
well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 22:20:33 -0700
reply-to:     "l. machado" <loreq@primenet.com>
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from:         "l. machado" <loreq@primenet.com>
subject:      caroline aiken update

hello and welcome to your caroline aiken update.  many folks on this list
have seen caroline solo or opening for indigo girls somewhere along the line
and can vouch for this incredible live performer.  for those of you who've
been saying, "caroline, please come to boston" -- you're in luck.
caroline's road schedule now includes many new cities, and she'll be in new
england for a week in april.  ohio and michigan are on the map for may, and
we're working on a cross-country tour for the summer.  if you'd like to see
aiken in your town, please write and let me know where you are.  also, if
you have any venue suggestions, send them along.

caroline's south by southwest in austin showcase was a blast and very
productive.  she will be playing the bumbershoot festival in seattle over
labor day weekend.  we appreciate your input and support -- it really helps.
airplay is way up, and caroline will be a guest on "acoustic cafe" out of
ann arbor in may.  this radio show is syndicated to 32 cities across the
country and has just been picked up by "voice of america" network -- that's
800-plus cities worldwide.  caroline is playing a lot of cool new songs, so
get out to a show and be the first on your block to hear this stuff.
finally, the second issue of caroline's rockin' newsletter, "that's what i
heard" is about to hit the streets.  if you want a free copy, please e-mail
rebecca moore at whatiheard@aol.com.  alrighty then, here's the schedule:

march 28, 1996: unitarian church, columbia sc -- (w/ walter hyatt, david
olney & jack
williams)
march 29, 1996: eddie's attic, decatur ga (with dede vogt)
april 6, 1996: kaffeeklatsch, huntsville al
april 11, 1996: smith's olde bar, atlanta ga -- (w/ strawvillage)
april 14, 1996: dogwood festival, atlanta ga -- (2pm, as ride the wood)
april 19, 1996: wiffledust salon, wynnewood, pa
april 20, 1996: clock and bell coffeehouse, quincy ma (w/ ellis paul)
april 22, 1996: wumb 91.9, boston ma -- (12pm, on air performance)
april 24, 1996: kendall cafe, cambridge ma
april 26, 1996: wintertide coffeehouse, vineyard haven ma (w/ don conoscenti)
april 27, 1996: homegrown coffeehouse, neeham ma (w/ ellis paul)
may 4, 1996: midtown festival, cotton club, atlanta ga -- (as ride the wood)
may 8, 1996: the ark, ann arbor, mi
may 9, 1996: acoustic cafe taping, ann arbor, mi -- (airdate to be announced)
may 10, 1996: the ark, ann arbor, mi -- (w/ tim and mollie o'brien)
may 11, 1996: six string concert series, columbus, oh --(w/ diedre mccalla)
may 17, 1996: eddie's attic, decatur, ga
may 24, 1996: kaffeeklatsch, huntsville, al
june 1, 1996: highland festival, atlanta, ga
june 7, 1996: kerrville festival, mainstage, kerrville, tx

thanks.  hope to see you on the road.

lorene machado
manager
on the fly entertainment, p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031
e-mail:  loreq@primenet.com
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/

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date:         wed, 27 mar 1996 23:50:24 -0600
reply-to:     cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      re: 3 hits...

well, i waited all day for someone who knows more about this than me to post
the "story" behind 3 hits, but it looks like no one ever did (forgive me if
i just happened to miss it) so i'll share what i know--and i know what i
know because of the list, and we discussed this sometime way back and people
were even running to libraries doing research and such, so hopefully some of
those people will correct me if i'm wrong....

frank stanford was a southern poet and i've completely forgotten the time
frame here, but for some reason i'm thinking mid-20th century, maybe??  he
committed suicide by shooting himself 3 times in the heart, thus "3 hits to
the heart".  stanford was either an orphan or adopted, and supposidly much
of his poetry deals with issues such as abandonment (i have no first hand
knowlegde of this, just what i've been told)  thus "i say mother, do you
claim me, my beloved do you blame me".  i believe some of the lines of the
song are allusions/quotations from some of his poetry.  i think perhaps one
of his books or poems was called "constant stranger"??  if someone know this
for sure i'd be grateful if you'd post it.  i can't believe i deleted all
those posts that explained everything for certain, i usually keep
everything.  it figures.  well, hope this has helped to clear some of the
mystery and not making it even murkier.  but this is just such a powerful
song, all the more so when you know the story behind it....

peace,
cylinda               "i know there is strength in the differences between us
                          and i know there is comfort where we overlap"
                                              -- ani difranco

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 02:47:20 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: don't pay inflated prices for stuff, friends

in a message dated 96-03-27 17:31:12 est,susan writes:

>(remember the live in sf
>nbootleg fiasco?)
>
>
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!
(please) don't go there !
:)
claire

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 02:50:08 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: amy's message

in a message dated 96-03-27 19:35:23 est, a list lurker writes:

>              chris is right.  the list already has too many strikes against
> it.  don't overdo it.

ooooohhhh, what's the dirt ?
:)
claire

(personally, i don't want to be buddies w/a&e, i just want them to give
me a stinkin' photo pass so i can keep my camera with me
at their shows) *ahemm...*  sorry about that , that wasn't me.... it was
my evil twin.
by the way, amy (the other one, not ray), sorry i haven't gotten back
to you yet regarding the photo policy discourse, but i want to give
thoughtful responses and just hadn't had time lately (i've only had time
for nonsense:)

responses and just haven't had time yet

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 00:15:40 -0800
reply-to:     derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
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from:         derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
subject:      re: 3 hits...
x-to:         "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.bsf.3.91.960327015653.2481a-100000@lucy.az.com>

his name is frank stanford. quite different, but has a great way with words.

derek

on wed, 27 mar 1996, l. andrade wrote:

> i am going to show my ignorance here in the hope that someone will
> enlighten us. :) my older brother once explained to me that a famous poet
> shot himself three times in the heart before he died. so the song makes
> direct references to that (re-read the lyrics). what i dont know is the
> name of the poet or any more details. was my brother pulling my leg and
> could someone expand on this? thanks.
>
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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 08:39:31 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: joni mitchell...adding ig
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ben wrote:
i just bought "blue" yesterday and i'm really impressed. i'm suprised
more people on the list don't like her. i can see why emily was so
influenced by her:)


absolutely brilliant album...i really love her early stuff...it was
*so* wierd when i first heard 1200 curfews and emily's version of
river...i'd known jm's version for years and yet all the way through
the song i couldn't put my finger on where i had heard it before...it
was wizzing round in my head and i knew that i knew it but couldn't
remember where from...and then at the end when emily says
thanks...joni mitchell...thanks i was running round the room going
mad because i couldn't believe i hadn't figured it out.  silly story
i know, but i can still remember the feeling of utter confusion for
the entire duration of the song first time i heard it.  i guess it's
not river day today, so i've lept forward a bit...sorry...but what
really moves me about emily's version...or rather the 1200 curfews
version is the thought of amy standing to the side thinking of what
to get emily for christmas...that really touched me when i read amy's
notes...guess i'm just a real softy at heart!

by the way...a huge thank you to scott for forwarding the ar
message...lifesaver to hundreds!!

anyway, i guess today is galileo day...a big favorite i assume
judging by the response of all on 1200 curfews.  i don't think it's
possible to not like it...although i know nothing about galileo
accept i assume he was a greek philospher.  but the song means coming
to terms with your life, however it is turning out, looking to the
past trying to explain why things have happened...i mean i never
thought i would turn out like i have...i'm thousands of miles away
from the 'me' of childhood and teenage years...and i'm only 23
now...sometimes i can't understand why i'm like i am, and i look to
things that happened when i was younger, trying to find a reason for
the 'me' of now.  sometimes it's nice to feel that life isn't your
fault and things happen that you have no control over, but then again
you have to start accepting responsibility at some point in your
life...i guess it just depends whether i'm in a strong mood or a weak
one.  and the future...geez..basically you can always have your goals
and aims, but sometimes things from times past will always push in
and divert your life...i think i'm in a fatelist (is that a word?)
mood at the moment...but i know thats because i don't want to think
that everything thats happened so far was any of my doing...wimping
out i suppose!
it will be interesting to see the range of posts about this song...

talk to y'all later

love helene

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 01:15:51 -0800
reply-to:     carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: the death of frank stanford (fwd)

hey all,

of interest, regarding three hits.  this was sent to me 2 years ago by a
scholar of southern poetry.  hope it helps.  also, i have a couple of
poems of his on file.  if you want me to forward them to you, just write
to me.  they are quite beautiful and vivid.

carolyn  :)

>the death of frank stanford
>
>frank stanford was married to the painter ginny crouch stanford. they
>lived in a ramshackle, inaccessible house in the ozarks. frank liked to
>leave ginny there for long periods of time (not unreasonable, as
>painters tend to be less easily mobile than poets). on one of these
>many trips into town, he met the poet cd wright. they co-founded lost
>roads press and became lovers.
>
>stanford was a physically beautiful man--his photograph would look fine
>stuck between the facing photos of byron and presley (you know where)--
>and thought of himself as a ladies' man. in other words, he slept aroun d
>on both his wife and his mistress. during one of his trips whoring
>around in new orleans, ginny stanford decided to meet this cd wright wh o
>frank had spoken of so highly. they hit it off and became friends,
>deciding that they had much in common, including a very difficult man.
>
>upon stanford's return from new orleans, he arrived at the cottage he
>and wright shared to find all his possessions, from both the cottage an d
>the house he and his wife occupied in the mountains, packed in a u-haul
>trailer. inside the cottage were his wife and cd wright. (some say a
>priest from subiaco academy, where stanford attended high school, was
>there as well.) the two women had choice things to say to stanford abou t
>--well, about him. they bitched him out thoroughly for about three
>hours, whereupon he excused himself, went into the bedroom of the
>cottage, took out a gun, and shot himself in the heart. three times. he
>died instantly.
>
>the event shocked the community of fayetteville and the surrounding
>area. stanford was well-known and generally loved. some are still upset
>that they were not called to view the body and help with the tragedy.
>poet jim whitehead personally threw away the bloody sheets from the
>cottage to prevent them from becoming relics and items of contention.
>
>others were angered that they had been forced to deal with what was
>ultimately an act both selfish and tragic. particularly angered were
>those whose children knew and loved stanford, who was particularly kind
>to the young.
>
>at his funeral, women fought to throw flowers into his grave.
>
>i make no claims for the word-by-word accuracy of this account, but thi s
>is the story as it is told in fayetteville. stanford's death came at th e
>high-water mark of fayetteville's artistic ambitions. since then, thing s
>have gradually gone downhill. it would not be too much to associate the
>two events. to the best of my knowledge, no one blames anyone for
>stanford's death but stanford and, in many cases, themselves.
>
>john w. adams
>
>
someday, if the indigo girls ever play f'ville, i'll see them. (not that
i wouldn't see them somewhere else, mind you, or that i even still live
in fayetteville. but that show would have a special resonance.)

if you think this is of any interest to others, feel free to post it
onto the indigo-girls list.

all the best,
              john

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 01:21:20 -0800
reply-to:     carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      (nigc): but a request for those interested in the film discussion

hey all,

since you guys are providing such interesting views on the films priest,
heavenly creatures, two girls, claire of the moon, etc.,  i was wondering
if you could help me out.

i'm working on my thesis project which is an examination of how gays and
lesbians are represented in major media.  specifically, i'm interested in
how those films influence gay and lesbian culture and how gays and
lesbians feel about the way lesbians and gays are portrayed.  any comments
would help a great deal.

mail me if you need further clarification, and thanks a lot, in advance,
for taking the time to reply.


carolyn
egg@u.washington.edu

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 11:42:28 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      a&e in rocket!?!

does anyone remember where on the web the picture of the front page
of rocket magazine (i think) with a & e was...i have to do some work
and surfing's taking too much time!!
thanks
love helene

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 11:50:13 +0000
reply-to:     helen brindley <hb07@students.stir.ac.uk>
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from:         helen brindley <hb07@students.stir.ac.uk>
subject:      hello
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hi everyone.

i just wanted to say hello, i've been lurking for a while and thought it
was about time i wrote.

i only have one indigo girls tape (which is my favourite ever)  and is a
compilation one of my friends sent me. i want to buy another and what i
really wanted to know was which album do you all like the most.

i can only afford one and i want it to be a goody. i don't know anyone
who has any indigo girls stuff that i could listen to just to see which
one i like.  i like their mellow stuff and i also want
some of their guitar tab music.

if anyone can give me any advice i'd be grateful.
oh yeah by the way the list is cool! a real laugh sometimes!

love and warm bagels

helen

        (__)   helen brindley
        (oo)
         \_|   hb07@students.stir.ac.uk

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 12:07:33 +0000
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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subject:      ctf - a question

all,

        has ctf day been and gone - i think it has, but being as i was
away for ages i'm gonna ask this now !

        yes ctf was probibally my intro to ig but the songs like prince of
darkness stuck in my head better !! kinda had more to say to me !!

        does anyone think a+e see ctf as a bit of an albatross arounf
their necks, ya know oh well we gotta play that one etc ... i've seen em
twice over here and although they enjoy every minute of being on stage
they lost the bounce by the time ctf came around. then again imagine the
disappointment of they didn't.

        whilst i'm here, i know alot of the list play guitar. i've played
forever and thank ig for the new stuff to help me along but how amazed
are you all by em's playing. she startles me every time. it's just
effortless to her ! just think about the complexitites of all the tunings
she uses or a simple chord pattern like least complicated but what a
picking pattern. too many people are missing out on the great
musicianship here !!

just my two pennies !!
jules

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 08:18:20 -0500
reply-to:     d.perkin@access.texas.gov
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      galileo (sorta igc)

hi all,

well since today (or was it yesterday) was/is galileo day, i thought
i might post some info.  about galileo.

galileo was an italian born scientist. he was born near pisa in the
mid 1500s. galileo galilei was the first person to produce lenses for
a telescope. he discovered the 4 moons of jupiter. he also developed
scientific backing for copernicues' theory of a sun centered solar
system, this is what galileo in trouble with the catholic church. at
the time the catholic church was teaching that the universe revolved
around the earth (although actually church officials knew that this
was not the case). the church made galileo recant his statements
about a sun centered system on the  threat of imprisonment.

anyhow, that's what emily refers to on 1200curfews. and a+e are
correct that a few years ago the catholic church finally conceded
that galileo and copernicues were correct, that the earth and the
moons and planets (in our solar system) do in fact revolve around the
sun... 400 years to late, but i guess galileo probably feels better
now.

moo.

dan perkins

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 09:38:39 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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subject:      jcs

dear ben, rick etc:

sorry if i struck a wrong note about the jcs tape tree.  i didn't
know you were talking about doing covers.  regards,

melissa

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reply-to:     kim fischer
              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      galileo day

hey all...
hmmm... why do i get the feeling i've been here before....
guess galileo brings out the deja vous in all'a us  : - )
i just recently bought the watershed video, and ( aside for a fleeting
glimpse years ago on some obscure talk show, and a spot not so very long ago
on david letterman... oh yeah ... and that bit on bots ) i'd never actually
seen the girls perform. the video was/is a real treat for me... fun...
warm... and completely warn out ( played it over + over.... )  my favorite
on the video is galileo.... ( now i get whatcha'all were talking about...
fuzzy bear cubs etc... funny stuff .) well... other than giving this song a
great big thumbs up as far as "feel good" music goes... i don't really have
anything brilliant or astute to say ( isn't that a big surprise? ) : -  )
hey... you know how when you're a kid, the world seems so magical +
mystical, but somehow you lose that sense as you become an adult?....
me - when i was a kid i'd often get a sudden flash of "hey... i've been here
+ done this before.... " then it would be gone... it was very spooky +
delicious. i don't get those now. does anyone know what i'm talking about?
did anyone else have those?.... just checkin'.....
peace, love and happy posting... kim ( who's very in awe of her friend tom)
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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 09:56:17 est
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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subject:      galileo

dear helene et all...

>although i know nothing about galileo accept i assume he was a greek
philospher.

not a greek philosopher, but rather an astronomer who determined that
the earth revolves around the sun, & not the reverse.  his study &
research was banned by the catholic church (who ruled in those days)
and he was killed for heresy, i believe.  this explains why the
comments in the preamble on 1200 curfews about being pardoned
recently (100's of years later,"...'bout time").  the guy was a
genius.

now, if i were really industrius (and not the lazy bum, i can be
early in the am, i'd put my encarta disk in and really find out the
whole story.  perhaps tonight, if it hasnt been provided.

bye now,

melissa

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subject:      oh you're all lovely! i feel like *singing*

  i wish i had time to respond to you all seperately (i will next week)
  but this afternoon i have to finish an essay i started 3 weeks ago! i
  will definately take up your advice and purchase some more tapes and take
  up the offers of dubbing me some if that is ok?
  i'm actually listening to hammer and nail at the moement and it's all i can
  do to keep quiet and not sing (i'm not sure of the right words anyway!)
  i have been nearly thrown out of the library already today for singing
  about gallileo. i just hope that my walkman batteries last me all the
  way home on the train tonight otherwise i'll be forced to sing somemore!

  thanks again for your emails. i'll email soon from the safety of my
  boyfriends flat in london where i can sing away to my hearts content
  without getting tutted at. isn't love wonderful?

  love and hugs to you all.

  (__)    helen brindley
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subject:      personal best (nigc)

hey all...
since the subject of how gays + lesbians are portrayed in movies has sort of
been tossed around on here for a few days, i thought i'd ask about personal
best. i saw it on hbo way back in 1983 and was really bugged by it...
anyone else see it?... recall it?... it starred mariel (sp?) hemingway...
whiney whiney whiney... i wanted to like the movie... but couldn't... maybe
it's just time and a poor grip on retrospect : - )  anyone got a thought on it?
peace... kim.
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subject:      nigc - joni mitchell

3/28/96

hi to all, and especially ben, since i am responding to his post!

i think "blue"  is awesome. it is my favorite, and the words to all i want
are so great.  i have been listening to this album a lot lately!

    ben asked if turbulent indigo was jazz......not really - there's
definately a jazz influence running throughout - but i wouldn't say on the
whole it is jazz.
"pop" isn't the most accurate label either, although that's what category ti
was in
when winning the grammy this year.  go figure!

     i guess a good analogy for comparing joni's early work  to turbulent
indigo
would be comparing strange fire to swamp ophelia ...at least stylistically,
both being the same type of music (joni is still there with an accoustic
guitar),
but the new stuff being more instrumentalized and stylistically
sophisticated.
the only catch being that as ig have done new things, their music has seemed
to be moving toward a harder sound, whereas joni's sound is going from being
more energetic to something more mellow.  maybe it is just joni getting
older
like the rest of us....everyone gets more reflecive about life as they
age.....
there's still some very poignant lyrics and great imagery -there's still  the

references to painting and van gogh and france cafes !!!  (joni is great!)

    one more thing, and i will stop,  there's a good reason for why ti won a
grammy
for best packaging.   the cd jacket is the paper type, but it is folded in
three
parts - kind of like a man's billfold - and on each fold are replications of
some of
joni's paintings.  they are beautiful...and it is obvious that joni is truly
inspired
by van gogh's work.  it is a striking and smart presentation!!!!!   to anyone
who likes
joni's work but who is hesitant to get ti, i would have to encourage them to
consider
getting ti, especially if you are looking for a mellow album to listen to
while thinking or relaxing on a quiet sunday morning.

    thanks for reading,
    bye-   dana

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subject:      moo

so its galileo day

another fab tune. do enjoy seeing the girls play this live and playing it
myself.  an interesting tune to play with a rather stragne tuning. saw
a+e play in leeds ( england ) last year and i don't think galelio was on
the set list, but we all know how easy they change that !!  ;-) anyway i
was shouting for it so long and so hard they gave in pointed at me ( the
venue was small ) and e said this is for you and started tuning up !!

just a wee note from me
jules

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subject:      re: personal best (nigc)

i agree with you kim. i too wanted to like this movie, but somehow it
fell short for me. partly because mhs character went with that macho
guy jock i guess. partly because she was soo whiney.. i don't know,
somehow it just didn't work for me.

the shot of mhs character straddling that guy as she spotted him on
the free weights... forget it.. boo hiss.

just my opinion.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
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subject:      re: hello

hello to you, too. i'm a fellow ex-lurker, and my favorite ig album is _nomads
indians saints_. i know a lot of people hate it, but i love it -- especially
_world falls_, _hammer and a nail_, and _watershed_. just my two cents.
kirsten

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subject:      re: why won't amy acknowledge us:(

in a message dated 96-03-27 12:16:02 est, ben writes:

>i say we all write back to daemon records and request
>and 2 day answer and question session frrom amy.

as for me.... i don't think that i could come up with any truly insightful
questions anyway. before i found the lifeblood article archive :), i was
sooooo
booored with the basic "promo type" articles that didn't have much to say
to a listener who is well aquainted with their bio (....a&e have known
each other since grade school...bla...bla..bla... new release.....bla
..bla...bla
....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..(ni)...).
what i'd like to see is an interview by a really talented journalist like
vickie gabarou (sp?) of cbc radio, or teri gross of npr, both women
could interview a doorknob and make it interesting :)

shut up and eat........
:)
claire

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subject:      re: nigc - joni mitchell

dana sez:
>hi to all, and especially ben, since i am responding to his post!
>
> i think "blue"  is awesome. it is my favorite, and the words to all i want
>are so great.  i have been listening to this album a lot lately!

---snip----snip---

just had to add to the _blue_ thread ... another great early album is
_clouds_ (wherein we get the name of the president's daughter) - some really
excellent songs on this album (outside of "chelsea morning") are "the
gallery" and  "i think i understand" (probably my all-time favorite jm
song).  _ladies of the canyon_ is great, too - "morning morgantown",
"woodstock" and "the circle game" are quite good. and don't forget _court
and spark_ with "help me" and the most beautiful "free man in paris."

for her later stuff, both "turbulent indigo" (how could you pass up an album
with "indigo" in the title featuring a singer/songwriter with a guitar?! :-)
and _night ride home_ are really good.  joni mitchell is simply awesome - i
was thrilled when ig mentioned their respect for her, and covered her songs.

ok, now back to your regularly scheduled ig discussions ...  -joan

                     joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
                 "i think i understand ... fear is like a wilderland -
                        stepping stones and sinking sands."
                               -joni mitchell-

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              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      movie stuff(nigc)

hey...
i can't remember who posted about doing research on g+l and how they're
portrayed in the movies, and i accidently trashed your message... anyhow, i
just wanted to suggest the movie _the celluloid (sp?) closet... it's a
history of g+l's in the movies... you probably know of it already, but, hey...
peace, kim.
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subject:      re: hello

hey... here's what kirsten said:
>hello to you, too. i'm a fellow ex-lurker, and my favorite ig album is
>_nomads indians saints_. i know a lot of people hate it

is that true? how could anyone hate anything ig?... i really like this cd
too... got it not so long ago + at the moment i can't get enough of it for
car tunes .... it + 1200 curfews. was this observation spawned from  the
results from sherlyn's poll? ...  i can't remember. ah well, kirsten, you're
not alone. i love _ni+s _ too.
well... gee, i'm post happy this morning... or is that just "plain happy"?
peace all... kim.
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subject:      nigc

hi all:
        here's some food for thought:

        what's the deal with *convenience stores* becoming so avant-garde?  i
mean, i just can't fathom why you'd want to buy a cappuccino with your hot dog
and slurpee.  next thing you know, they'll be catering your cookout.

        just my .02.

janis

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subject:      alan from boulder, mail me!!!!

hi alan...i inadvertently deleted your address! i need you to email
me asap, re so vinyl. thanks much!

susan
p.s. sorry to the rest of you for wasting space....

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      so whats up in atlanta?

good morning (or day, whatever time it may be for you) everyone!  i was
wondering if anyone knew whether or not ig will be playing in atlanta at the
annual earth day celebration.  i attended last year and had an excellent time--
many great bands were there (ig, the last act, goes without saying) and all of
them are great.  one group is now touring (or was the last time i saw them) with
rem-- a group with buffalo in the title.  by the by, mike mills did back-up
vocals for a & e last earth day (and mike stipe was there).  but now i have
digressed from my original question:  does anyone know whats up in atlanta this
spring?

wishing all on ostentatious day!
carmelita

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subject:      re: nigc

>        what's the deal with *convenience stores* becoming so avant-garde?  i
>mean, i just can't fathom why you'd want to buy a cappuccino with your hot dog
>and slurpee.

tell me about it. sheesh!!! everyone knows that cappucinnos are far better
with your basic pop + chips :  )
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....
so it's a sunny day and here i sit, happy... soon i'm outside + will not
plague this poor list so...
peace + pop + chips.... kim.
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subject:      deja vu, deja vous

> guess galileo brings out the deja vous in all'a us  : - )

even though my long history as a lurker on this list might otherwise
preclude my posting anything to it, as a linguist i couldn't let this
delicious pun pass me by.  i don't know if the original poster intended
this as a pun or not, but even if it was unintentional, it's lovely!

to explain:  the french expression "deja vu," which refers to that funny
i've-been-here-before feeling, translates directly to "already seen."  the
quasi-homophonic "deja vous," of course, translates to "already you" --
which, in the case of "galileo" and the topic of reincarnation, is quite
appropriate!

i now return myself to my regularly scheduled lurking.

deanna light
university of georgia department of english
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hey, i'm clueless as to the whether ig are touring right now or not...are they?
and any idea, if they are, if they'll be trekking on up to cleveland in the
near future????  just curious...

lesley

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subject:      honor the earth

hello all!
after attending the honor the earth concert last spring in minneapolis
and hearing winona laduke speak, my eyes were opened to the many
struggles/policies/destruction that the native americans are still
facing.  in my college english class, we were assigned to do a 12 page
research paper.  my topic: how federal government policies have been
detrimental to the indigenous peoples of this land, and how new policies
continue to destroy the native american culture and traditions.  i picked
this subject so i can educate other people, while educating myself at the
same time.  the honor the earth concert (and the release of the song
'bury my heart at wounded knee') have really inspired me and shown me the
importance of knowing the facts and how i might be able to help change
things, even if it is only a littlwe bit.
i am wondering if anyone has any sources, contacts, articles, forwards,
etc., that may help me with my research.  if so, please send them to me-
i appreciate it!!
peace,
amanda

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on sat, 21 may 1994, kim fischer wrote:

> >        what's the deal with *convenience stores* becoming so avant-garde?  i
> >mean, i just can't fathom why you'd want to buy a cappuccino with your hot dog
> >and slurpee.
>
> tell me about it. sheesh!!! everyone knows that cappucinnos are far better
> with your basic pop + chips :  )
> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....
> so it's a sunny day and here i sit, happy... soon i'm outside + will not
> plague this poor list so...
> peace + pop + chips.... kim.

hey!  what about goldfish crackers and hershey bars?? mmmmmmm.  :-)   gia

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subject:      galileo, was re: joni mitchell...adding ig
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in-reply-to:  <1c488261c5b@sperrin.ulst.ac.uk>

background on galileo: he was an italian mathmetician and astronomer.
he invented the telescope and discovered that copernicus was right. the
world still held that the earth was the center of the universe, according
to the early greek astronomer ptolemy, even though copernicus had already
set forth the theory that the sun was the center of our planetary system,
and had been "proven" correct by tycho brahe in 1572.  anyway, back to
galileo: he published his findings and the church warned him to shut up
about it.  instead, he published an aristotlean book called "dialogue
concerning the two great world systems", in which he set the two theories
against each other.  the character who held the ptolemic theory was named
simplicio, and the pope thought g. was mocking him, so the church put him
on trial for heresy.  g. lived the rest of his days under house arrest,
and the catholic church recently started to reconsider his case (i think
they started looking at it in 1979?) and pardoned him of any wrongdoing
in 1992.  (talk about a day late and a dollar short...this was the 17th
century that he was convicted)  g. did a lot of important scientific
research and was a young prodigy.  his biographies are fascinating.  as
you have probably figured out, he also believed in reincarnation.

before you get too impressed by my dates and names, i was looking in my
astrology book for the details.  hope it is of some interest out there.--gwen

> anyway, i guess today is galileo day...a big favorite i assume
> judging by the response of all on 1200 curfews.  i don't think it's
> possible to not like it...although i know nothing about galileo
> accept i assume he was a greek philospher.  but the song means coming
> to terms with your life, however it is turning out, looking to the
> past trying to explain why things have happened...i mean i never
> thought i would turn out like i have...i'm thousands of miles away
> from the 'me' of childhood and teenage years...and i'm only 23
> now...sometimes i can't understand why i'm like i am, and i look to
> things that happened when i was younger, trying to find a reason for
> the 'me' of now.  sometimes it's nice to feel that life isn't your
> fault and things happen that you have no control over, but then again
> you have to start accepting responsibility at some point in your
> life...i guess it just depends whether i'm in a strong mood or a weak
> one.  and the future...geez..basically you can always have your goals
> and aims, but sometimes things from times past will always push in
> and divert your life...i think i'm in a fatelist (is that a word?)
> mood at the moment...but i know thats because i don't want to think
> that everything thats happened so far was any of my doing...wimping
> out i suppose!
> it will be interesting to see the range of posts about this song...
>
> talk to y'all later
>
> love helene
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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 10:49:34 -0800
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hey all,

thanks for everyone who has already responded to my request for thoughts
on gay/lesbian films.  actually, i am very aware of the celluloid closet
and am looking forward to seeing it.

given the unexpected many responses to my request, i want to offer you
some more clarification on this project.  in my thesis i am going to
explore and attempt to argue that gay/lesbian culture is relatively
invisible to mainstream culture.  that is, gays and lesbians are often
negatively stereotyped through images in mass media, regardless of whether
the gay/les character shows up in a gay/les-oriented (no pun intended)
film.  so, when films that feature a gay/les theme/relationship, i'm
wondering whether gays and lesbians view these films positively or
negatively and how gays and lesbians identify with the characters.

julie goldman offered a very interesting point that most of the time she
saw a gay/les-oriented film, the characters were portrayed as psychotic,
i.e. heavenly creatures, sister my sister (both incredible pieces of
work), or, in 2 girls, where there was the lower class, pot-smoking, butch
and the upperclass straightish femme.  given that these critically
acclaimed films featured characters like that, do you think that such
media portrayals influence the way we think about gays and lesbians.
further, my main argument will focus on how gays and lesbians feel about
these portrayals and how these thoughts influence gay/lesbian identity
both positively and negatively. in other words, i'm going to be examining
the social construction of gay/lesbian identity.

gosh, sorry to have wasted bandwidth.  i'm so longwinded!  i was just so
surprised by the number of responses, that i thought i would try to more
specifically explain my goals.

thanks a bunch for your help!  and, anything at all would help!  this
project has been such a struggle in the making and this recent discussion
on the list has been inspiring!

carolyn  :)

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subject:      re: galileo

just one more little anecdote about galileo since no one else
mentioned it yet, but in addition to the house arrest the church had
him blinded in a public ceremony so that he could never see the
stars again and thus could not offend them in the future...his
recant was not enough for them they wanted to insure he never saw
anything else that might shake up their world-view......

luci

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subject:      re: joni mitchell...adding ig
x-to:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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joni is a fantastic songwriter...i remember hearing carrie at the end of
an arts festival i was working for; it was just what i needed after three
days without sleep to get my spirits up and keep me going as we cleaned
up the fairground.  that's all i have heard of blue but it's enough for
me to ask for the cd for my birthday...

side note: my girlfriend, whose name is chelsea (after the jm song
chelsea morning) got me really into mitchell's music a few months ago,
and i have never regretted that.  thank you sweet...

okay, the igc: galileo always made me think of trying to get this
straight in life, in re priorities and philosophies.  it also mentions
second and previous lifetimes, which is an idea that i'm still not clear
on...it gets me thinking about what i would have like to have done in
previous lifetimnes and who i might have been in them.  also a little bit
of "carpe diem" comes to mind....why should i be content with what i
might have done when i can go out and do it now??

okay, chelsea wants to log on...bbl.

--mike

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i think if your gpoing for an eclectic indigo buy 1200 curfews-it's about
24.00 but well worth it. if your looking for cheap indigo look for
nomads-indians-siants(my favorite),indigo girls,back on the bus y'all
(another live album) and strange fire. these usually sell for 10 dollars
or less at tower.
ben
ps - save your money now-buying indigo cds' is addictive. its' like
supporting a crack habit:)

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subject:      song of the day?!?

ok, this is my first week back at school from spring break, and i am
completely lost.  what's the song of the day? what are the upcomming
songs of the day?

thank you for your support.

much confused,
heather

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hi, y'all, i'm new, like not even a day on the list yet.  but i have a
couple sources for you, amanda, for the research, but the reason i'm
posting is because native american vs. us imperialist/extermination shit
is very interesting (not quite the right word) to me and possibly some of
y'all.
*_lakota woman_ by mary ellen crow dog
  i read this last summer at the beach in about 4 days.  it opened my eyes
  alot.  (also more interesting than my dysfunctional family.)
*stuff by paula gunn allen
*stuff by rayna green
  we read these fine authors last quarter in women studies 200, which
should be renamed intro to race, class, and gender and also should be
required for everyone on the planet (but with a better prof).
thanks for being so thoughtful, everyone.
i'll do some more lurking now.
peace,
karey

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there's also a new book out called, "where white men fear to tread", that should be interesting.

trant

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this is also in answer to amanda's request about native american
sources.  i've already emailed the list to amanda privately, but i
figured some more of you would be interested in these sources:

ward churchill, "struggle for the land"
stephen cornell, "return of the native"
stan steiner, "the vanishing white man"
vine deloria, "custer died for your sins"

"incident at ogala," a video documentary about the plight of leonard
peltier.

hope all of this helps.

jeff
jksiazek@cornell-iowa.edu
homepage:  http://wwwcsc.cornell-iowa.edu/~jksiazek

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subject:      jcs??

dear all,
i have the ig rendetion of jcs (love it-amy is jesus), but have not
heard tell before of a video. whats the word?
i am almost peeing my pants with happiness as i just acquired my very
first bootleg ig. is there more to life than this?
enjoying the list immensely, although i have only been on a scant
week....

jo

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on sat, 21 may 1994, kim fischer wrote:

> hey...
> i can't remember who posted about doing research on g+l and how they're
> portrayed in the movies, and i accidently trashed your message... anyhow, i
> just wanted to suggest the movie _the celluloid (sp?) closet... it's a
> history of g+l's in the movies... you probably know of it already, but, hey...
> peace, kim.
> <kim fischer>
>  rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca


ello out there,
this is in regards to the celluloid closet which i just saw in berkeley.
i thought it did a great job in showing how gays and lesbians are
depicted in film history.  the movie was humorous, but i think that it
worked well to its advantage by keeping things light.  also, it did have
its really touching/disturbing moments as well.  all in all, a well paced
film.  i highly suggest anyone who is able to find it, to go see it.
after the show, the directors were there, and they had a question and
answer session with the audience.  i was surprised.  they seem very
responsible, and diplomatic about the film.  just to end with, i think
susan sarandon rocks the world.

happy galileo day!  (is there a nicer sounding guitar solo in exsistence?)
wendell

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since it's galileo day, does anyone out there have in with the out
crowd?  and if you do, have you noticed that the version of galileo on
that is the same as the one on 1200 curfews?  the strange thing is that
iwtoc doesn't have that snazzy intro about how galileo was pardoned.  i'm
wondering if the igs cut and pasted cool intros with the best recordings,
for 1200 curfews, not that it matters, but i did feel a little taken aback.

oh well, life goes on.
wendell

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well, i think that gays/les have definitely been stereotyped by the
media.  it has a lot to do with marketing strategies and showing what's
expected.  people, from the beginning have had an image of what gays/les
are like, but when the media actually depicts it with the extremes, it's
easier for the world to accept it as being the only way it is.  i'm
thinking about old films where gays were extremely feminine, and lesbians
were like butch prison ladies.  i think hollywood is slowly trying to
veer away from those stereotypes, but hey, when you need a good gag, the
average person will probably laugh at a guy in a dress.  it's hard to
change people's perceptions when thye already have an image in their
heads about what gay/les are like.  i'd like to see more g/l themed films
where things are more subtle.  just an opinion.

wendell (i love playing guitar) lee

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ugh! never knew about the blinding bit...catholicism saves the day for
freedom and justice in europe once again, folks.

--mike

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subject:      ideas

helen?

        your really opening a bag of worms by asking us fanatics for
recommendations. you going to get at least on for everyone of their cd's
so beware. personally i say they are all excellent and so really can't go
wrong with anthing that has their name on it. i am sure others will agree
with me. but for starters i would say, slef titled or rites of passage.
not b/c either or my favorite, i really don't have one. just b/c i think
they are both good itro to indigo cd's. well enjoy.

peace love and lots of indigo
kristal

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>         whilst i'm here, i know alot of the list play guitar. i've played
> forever and thank ig for the new stuff to help me along but how amazed
> are you all by em's playing. she startles me every time. it's just
> effortless to her ! just think about the complexitites of all the tunings
> she uses or a simple chord pattern like least complicated but what a
> picking pattern. too many people are missing out on the great
> musicianship here !!
>
> just my two pennies !!
> jules


i would like to respond to that.  i agree!!! the first time i heard the
igs playing i was very impressed with the guitar work, and then when i
saw them on the live at the uptown lounge video, i almost passed out from
being impressed.  i had no idea emily played all the solos and cool
frills.  then i began to study her, and i just can't get enough of how
she creates on that instrument.  i pride myself on learning the guitar
from the ig songbooks, but she did it from nothing.  well, that's not
true.  i guess she's been influenced by people's styles, but i think she
does the most beautiful and interesting solos.  who wants to talk about
emily and he amazing fingers?

wendell

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 16:50:01 est
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subject:      deja vous (nigc)

dear deanna:

earlier you wrote...

"to explain:  the french expression "deja vu," which refers to that
funny i've-been-here-before feeling, translates directly to "already
seen."  the quasi-homophonic "deja vous," of course, translates to
"already you" --which, in the case of "galileo" and the topic of
reincarnation, is quite appropriate!"

how about "vouja dey" or "the feeling that you've never been there
before."

it's almost friday,,,,,yay!

melissa

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subject:      re: galileo

i never knew about the blinding of galileo either. funny, how selective
eduation can be...

but to add one more wonderful little antidote about galileo:
(i'm not positive this is true, but i heard it somewhere so...)
galileo had his book on his _real_ work (the one that the church banned)
published posthumously. and he dedicated it to the pope. :) :) :)

that's why i've always thought he was the perfect historical figure for emily
to write this song about. he was bright enough to do the scientific work in
the fist place, _and_ to publicly recant to save his own skin. _but_ he had the
sense of humor and the gumption on his death bed to dedicate it all to the
pope. the guy really had his sh*t together. :)


folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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subject:      ? about daemon

ok, i hate to bug y'all about my stupid little question, but i'm confused. i
have subscribed to daemonrecs-info three times now. after the second two times
i received the reply "address already subscribed." so will someone please
explain to me why i've never received a mailing from daemon, and why i didn't
get the amy letter???? (thanks mucho to the person who forwarded it to the
list). ok, i guess i'm just pouting now, but i'm really confused as to why i'm
not getting anything from daemon when i'm suposedly subscribed. maybe they
just don't like me. :( if anyone has a clue, please fill me in!

oh, and as a completely unrelated side note, remember a week or two ago i
wrote to the muppets reqesting that a&e be put on their show? well, a couple
of days ago i received a reply from them simply thanking me for my interest.
no other info. so at least we know _they_ respond to email! :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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subject:      re: galileo

> the church had
>him blinded in a public ceremony so that he could never see the
>stars again and thus could not offend them in the future...his
>recant was not enough for them they wanted to insure he never saw
>anything else that might shake up their world-view......

i cannot believe the inhumanities commited ( past and present ) all in the
name of god.... this too was something i'd never heard of, in all my
fascination with history. how cruel. no wonder so many have turned away from
god + religion.... aggh... kim stops here... afraid she may offend...
peace + freedom of expression... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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date:         sun, 22 may 1994 04:06:05 -0700
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              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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from:         kim fischer
              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: deja vu, deja vous

> guess galileo brings out the deja vous in all'a us  : - )
>to explain:  the french expression "deja vu," which refers to that funny
>i've-been-here-before feeling, translates directly to "already seen."  the
>quasi-homophonic "deja vous," of course, translates to "already you" --
>which, in the case of "galileo" and the topic of reincarnation, is quite
>appropriate!
( someone let me back indoors... sorry all )
oh, cool!  somebody got it : - ) !!!!!
i wondered if the french would be lost on some.... thanks deanna. my grammer
is poor at times... but my wit is ever-present. ( if at times a little off
the wall + just plain dumb :-  )   )
peace - kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 18:28:00 -0500
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subject:      song(s), etc.

hi y'all!  i've been woefully behind on the songs of the day and i've finally
read all of my email so i thought i'd jump in for a moment....

i'm not sure if i really understand "1 2 3" but the line which screams at me
is, "...are you aware of the fire beneath your feet?"    it seems to be a
call to action.  it's as though she's daring us to fight the status quo,
socialization and the "devil's scorn."  nothing is ever as easy as it seems
and we can't hide behind the facade of what other people want us to do.
"once that wheel is in motion, don't lose what you have found..."  sometimes
it's very difficult to defend our beliefs but, if we want to maintain our
integrity, we must stand strong.

"watershed" has always been one of my favorite songs because it always
reminds me that life is a gift and that i have learned, and will continue to
learn, many lessons through the events which unfold.  i called my first post
to this list, "getting used to a country mile" because that line in the song
fit my life perfectly.   "every tree limb overhead just seems to sit and wait
until every step you take becomes a twist of fate"  makes it much easier to
laugh at myself and accept the blessings, mistakes and detours of my life.

i'm still convinced that hmd was one of the 2 songs that ig played at the g&l
march on washington but, at the time, i didn't know any of their songs,
so...anyway, this is the song that i always think about when someone pisses
me off..."everything that i believe is wrong with you is wrong with me..."  i
contain everything that i hate about other people and i have a daily
(hourly?) struggle to not surrend to that side of myself.  the line that says
it all for me is, "now you ask me why i'm here, the same as you, i'm scared,
it's fear..."  the fuel for my fire is a mixture of fear, hope, and love.  i
love this song.

yamot10kw...."i see my eyes in your eyes through my eyes"  ...sublime...
"the evil ego and the vice of pride is there ever anything that makes us take
our different sides?"  always reminds me of politicians and occasionally :)
creeps into my mind when i'm arguing over petty things...

ptntf...i was driving my gf's 16 year old nephew to san francisco (he'd never
been there before) and i asked him to read the lyrics to this song while it
was playing.  i was hoping that it's message would reach him ("you'd help me
more by not giving in..." etc.) but i guess i'll never know because he didn't
say anything :)  this goes along with the entire song lyrics thread :)

finally!  gwtwotwihh is a song that reminds me of a woman i visit every week
(i'm a home health nurse).  her name is esther and she has a variety of
illnesses, including depression.  i used to dread seeing her because she
vented her frustrations at me and whatever positive thing i'd say to her
would be transformed into the opposite.  i became angry and frustrated with
her so i got very detached from the situation and from her ("it makes us all
angry though we feign to care").  it was the only way that i could protect
myself from leaving her house feeling totally depressed and drained.  "i
wonder which saint that lives inside a bead will grant her consolation when
she counts upon her need" she showed me her rosary beads one day and i
thought of this line.  esther is the woman in this song but i've learned to
see her pain and comfort her.  i've stopped trying to "fix" her and realized
that she has a place in my life and i have one in hers. so, while the team of
doctors try pills and xrays, i keep in mind that she is on her path and,
instead of trying to get her to come my way, i'll just help her get through
hers.

whew!! thanks for reading :)
rachel :)

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 18:36:24 -0500
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subject:      chord help....:)

tell me, what are f#m  f#m/e c#m a/c#  bm7 e6  b7 e9 .  thats it...i don't
know what they are and i would hate to totally improvise, and i need these
for a song i am trying to play.
can anyone diagram these for me :)  pretty please ??:)
thanks boys and girls.
rob a.

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 18:36:49 -0500
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subject:      indicated iii--i got mine!

i just thought that i would drop a line really quick to say that i got my
copy of indicated iii, and it is just as good as indy 2 if not better.
thanks for all the work rob.  before everyone bombards him with
requests......the inserts aren't quite done...so be patient.  he will let the
list know when all is ready for distribution, but be ready to get yours!
take care
rob

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subject:      re: galileo

since my galileo anecdote seems so new to y'all i thought it would
be appropriate to quote my source was on the best seller list for
awhile last year(i think it was last year): "world lit only by fire"
it's about magellan really but the author (william manchester i
think but the book's at home so sorry if i'm wrong) discovered he
had to go way beyond magellan to really be understood with what he
wanted to describe (life in the middle ages). it's a reasonably
priced paperback that gives really nice perspective on the origins
of much misinformation....

deb

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 10:14:33 +1000
reply-to:     kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
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from:         kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
subject:      galileo and stuff.

hi all,

you know it's really frustrating being on the other side of the world
when it means you always come in at the very tail end of all the talk
for the day. oh, well, i guess i'll talk anyway, since i feel the need to
on a couple of things.

galileo seems to be a song that touches a lot of people on a metaphysical
(as well as a warm, fuzzy level). i really love this song too. i love that
line "how long 'til my soul gets it right?" - it captures for me that
sense of yearning in life to know, to be sure, to understand your purpose
and to feel 'right' in yourself and with the world. i think everyone has
at some point had that really centred feeling, that feeling of "i'm in
everything and everything's in me and it's all ok". " did any human
being ever reach that kind of height?" (wow, imagine feeling like that all
the time!).

i didn't know the full story about galileo and his treatment by the church
of the day either. yeah, kim, some pretty horrible things have been done in
the name of god and the church. but, as i've said before, 'the church' (i.e.
the old-style traditional power-worshipping bureaucracy) for me, do not equal
'god'. i mean i just can't relate to that kinda charleton heston, bearded,
white, finger-pointing sort of guy as the big 'is', you know? however, i do
have some sort of faith in the kind of loving, full-up, generous feeling that
i get when i fell connected to everything and it's all sort of glowing -
that's the nearest experience i have to 'god'. i think emily must have that
feeling a lot, 'cos she sure can write about it!

oh, by the way, on the g & l film thing - i can't believe noone has
mentioned 'desert hearts' yet ( the film based on the book by jane rule).
i remember when i first saw it being absolutely astounded because i wasn't
being presented with a bunch of awful stereotypes. it actually managed to
portray lesbians like real people - wow, what a concept!

love and warm feelings of connection,

kristina.

^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 18:49:45 cst
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subject:      galileo

          this was my first favorite ig song (now they all are).  i
          first listened to this song when i was dog sitting for a
          friend of mine. i stayed the weekend at her house and
          checked out the music shelf.  i picked the most interesting
          looking cd case and threw it in the player....instant
          convert.  when she came home she invited some other people
          over and we all sat around drank a lot of beer and belted
          out this song...i have come to realize that when i drink i
          suddenly think i am an incredible vocalist...go figure.

          the video has only served to increase my liking of this
          song.

          llh
          "i did wrong" amy ray

          moo!

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 17:10:34 -0800
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: galileo
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the first time i heard this song was long ago when i was a lizard.  who knew
how true it could be?

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reply-to:     kim fischer
              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: galileo

>the first time i heard this song was long ago when i was a lizard.  who knew
>how true it could be?

that was you?.... me, i was the 28th fly you ate.... in my next life... i'm a
very large tuba player and you are the stool that bears my weight ( + bad
playing ) for 37 years.... ( ha!... revenge of the fly... so sweet ) ( help
me... help me...help me..)
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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subject:      nigc:  suggestions for what guitar to buy....

sorry to waste bandwith, but i was wondering if i could get some ideas/opinions
from y'all.  i want to buy myself a nice (probably used) acoustical guitar this
summer (or hopefully sooner) so that i can teach myself and learn how to play
the guitar.  i don't want to spend a mega load of money, but i would like a
fairly nice guitar.  sooo, do any of you have suggestions for a relatively
cheap, possibly used, acoustic guitar?  also anything else i should buy, since
i"m a beginner???  don't waste anymore bandwith ...reply privately please =)
thanks loads =)

peace and ig,
nicole

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 12:22:43 +1000
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from:         kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
subject:      really, tenuously galileo (oh, ok. nigc!)

has anyone ever seen that cartoon by larson with the two chameleons
sitting on a rock in the desert and one says to the other one:

" there it is again- that weird feeling that in another life i was
  some woman called shirley maclaine."

??

well, all this talk of lizards and reincarnation made me think of it!!

kris (lurking back to my rock now).

^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

"now we all are chosen ones".

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re: the comment about e learned it from nothing:
i think it was on 1200 curfews before power of two she said she had taken
classical guitar lessons, which is certainly not to say that she isn't an
amazingly creative, inventive, etc player.  but i think she did have some
lessons.
peace,
karey
(no nifty quote picked out as of yet)

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i know that i'm not supposed to send these messages to the list, but i
need some help.  i need to unsubscribe to the list because i can't handle
all this mail, but i can't seem to get off the list.  i've tried sending
messages to listserv, but they keep getting returned to me with host
unknown messages.  can anyone help me?

mandy kay

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from:         paul lucente <mahavishnu@msn.com>
subject:      re: nigc - joni mitchell

for all you joni-philes, there is a great joni page on the web, maintained by
a guy by the name of wally breese.  it is everything any joni fan could ask
for, and it keeps getting better and better.  here's the url...cut 'n paste,
kids:

http://www.well.com/user/wallyb/jonihome.html

although for a long time it was never explicitly stated by the girls, i always
knew they were kindred spirits with joni, and i too was thrilled to hear emily
acknowledge joni's influence on record.

enjoy...

paul

p.s. i actually heard that the clintons got the name for their daughter after
hearing judy collins' version of chelsea morning, not joni's.


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subject:        re: nigc - joni mitchell

dana sez:
>hi to all, and especially ben, since i am responding to his post!
>
> i think "blue"  is awesome. it is my favorite, and the words to all i want
>are so great.  i have been listening to this album a lot lately!

---snip----snip---

just had to add to the _blue_ thread ... another great early album is
_clouds_ (wherein we get the name of the president's daughter) - some really
excellent songs on this album (outside of "chelsea morning") are "the
gallery" and  "i think i understand" (probably my all-time favorite jm
song).  _ladies of the canyon_ is great, too - "morning morgantown",
"woodstock" and "the circle game" are quite good. and don't forget _court
and spark_ with "help me" and the most beautiful "free man in paris."

for her later stuff, both "turbulent indigo" (how could you pass up an album
with "indigo" in the title featuring a singer/songwriter with a guitar?! :-)
and _night ride home_ are really good.  joni mitchell is simply awesome - i
was thrilled when ig mentioned their respect for her, and covered her songs.

ok, now back to your regularly scheduled ig discussions ...  -joan

                     joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
                 "i think i understand ... fear is like a wilderland -
                        stepping stones and sinking sands."
                               -joni mitchell-

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subject:      daemon info

        delurking to ask for the same info as lorinda.  i too keep
getting the "already subscribed" message, but no actual messages from
daemon.  anyone have a solution?

-jean

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subject:      about galileo

         i thought galileo became blind in his later years as a result of
studying sun spots (the moral of the story: don't look directly at the
sun).  i'm not doubting that he was blinded in a public ceremony; it
wasn't wise to piss the church off in those days.  here's another
tid-bit:  galileo's father, vincenzo galilei, published a series of
criticisms on vocal counterpoint (at that time popular in the italian
madigral) titled dialogue concerning ancient and modern music (1581).  he
believed only single vocal lines could express the true emotion of the
text.  being such a fan of monody, i doubt that vincenzo would think too
much of ig's harmonies; he probably wouldn't like that song about his
trouble-making son either.
-pete

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
every time i go to town
the boys start kicking my dog around.
every time i go to sleep
you wake me up with this crazy speech .....
                                                -guadalcanal diary

peter followill-> pfollow@emory.edu-> emory university-> atlanta,ga
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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subject:      swamp ophelia vinyl

hello ig list pals

i have been bombarded with messages from people wanting so vinyl. i called todayand bought the last six copies of so vinyl they had. three are promised to
people who have done/are doing significant favors for me in the past, so

that's means three are up for grabs but wait

don't email me now....please don't!...i'll let all of you know when they will
be offered up, it'll be a couple weeks from now because i am simply
inundated with my life, job and job search...don't worry, i will give you
plenty of warning. i want to do it as fairly as possible...so far i have gotten
40 requests!!! yikes!!!!

some of you have asked about the differences between the vinyl....according
to my sources, the black vinyl pressings are far more plentiful (about
3,000 copies, i think) than the green vinyl pressings (500 or so). the deal is,
you can't tell if they are green or black til you open the package!!!
and yes, they are all autographed by em and amy...that's the coolest part!

okay so please don't mail me right now, please????


love susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         thu, 28 mar 1996 20:55:48 -0800
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from:         "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
subject:      re: swamp ophelia vinyl
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if people really want so vinyl you can check out goldmine. i bought a
*green* vinyl signed so record through there in december. i don't have the
phone number for the place i ordered it from, so i can't help you out
there.  just scan all the ads.  my cost was $30, which seems about right.
i was a bit boggled to see that person selling a black vinyl for $30,
hopefully nobody was suckered into buying it. :\

goldmine can be found in most record stores in the magazine section.

kristina

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hey y'all...
so i went out tonight to hear winona laduke speak.  for those of you who
don't know who winona laduke is, let me explain.  ms. laduke is from the
indigenous women's network/7th generation fund.  she is also the woman
who basically put together the honor the earth campaign and the tour.  so
i went to hear her speak tonight on native american public health
issues.  she passed out a brochure regarding honor the earth which has a
message from the girls in it that i thought y'all might like to read.  so
here goes....i apologize in advance for the length of this message.

we would like to share with you the experience we've had over the last
several years working on the honor the earth tours and invite you to join
the honor the earth campaign.

since 1993 we have performed over 25 honor the earth benefit shows
working with a group of dedicated native american activists.  the honor
the earth tours have taken us from the jemez pueblo in new mexico, where
community members are fighting radioactive contamination, all the way to
the eyak community in alaska, where native people are trying to recover
from the destruction of the exxon valdex oil spill while working to stop
the clear cutting of their sacred forests.

the purpose of these tours was to raise money and politcal support for
native people working on the front lines for their own survival and the
survival of the natural world we all share.  the tours raised over
$270,000.00 that was distributed by the seventh generation fund to 45
native groups working to defend their homelands from environmental
threats, protect their sacred sites and restore sustainable community
practices.

this journey had a profound impact on our lives and challenged us to
reexamine our own approach to environmental issues.  because of this
experience, we have rededicated ourselves to environmental activism,
focusing on the survival of native peoples.

as non-indians, we cannot sit by silently and watch the continuted
destruction of native communities.  this is more than just another
environmental cause.  the basic issues of human rights, justice and our
own survival is ultimately at stake.

native peoples have resisted the destruction of their land for
generations upon generations because they are part of the land.

the indigenous women's network, the indigenous environmental network and
the seventh generation fund, all native american run organizations whose
networks includes over 200 grassroots native groups, have asked us to
continue the honor the earth campaign and expand our work.

that is why we are asking you, our friends in the music industry, to join
with us and help us build the honor the earth campaign by sharing your
talent, skill, time and resources.  the reward to you will be immeasurable.

grassroots native organizations and communities represent an effective
social movement doing important work.  they are resisting powerful
multinational timber and energy corporations, like exxon and alberta
pacific.  they ar fighting clear cutting, coal mining, toxic dumping, and
incinerators in a heroic battle to protect future generations.  but they
are isolated and cash poor.

they need and deserve our help.  they need financial support and
political support from non-indians and indians alike to continue their
resistance and to win.

we are involved in the honor the earth campaign to try to raise money and
awareness for these groups, and we want you to join us, whether your
commitment is your music, your money or your time.  we hope you will
become a part of this campaign, and part of the solution to the
environmental threats facing our planet.

on behalf of the earth and her people,

amy and emily

besides the letter from amy and emily, there is also a press release that
i will post here....

honor the earth benefit cd

decatur, ga--daemon records, a 5 year old not for profit independent
label owned and operated by indigo girl amy ray is pleased to announce
the upcoming release of it's second large scale benefit record: the honor
the earth cd.

the honor the earth cd will feature a compilation of new music donated by
a spectacular array of artists specifically for this special project.
confirmed artists include indigo girls, luka bloom, soul asylum, keith
secola and the wild band of indians, joy harjo and poetic justice, louise
erdrich, matthew sweet, jane sibbery, toad the wet sprocket, the latin
playboys, john trudell, roseanne cash, exene cervenka, and bruce
cockburn.  more acts will be added in the next few weeks.

all proceeds from the honor the earth cd will go to the honor the earth
campaign, and will directly support native environmental groups working
to protect their land base and culture.

the honor the earth campaign is sponsored by three national native
groups: the indigenous women's network, the indigenous environmental
network, and the seventh generation fund.

for more information about the honor the earth cd contact:  john
brand--publicity/daemon records  404-373-5733

for more information about the honor the earth campaign contact:  direct
expressions, inc. 612-221-4465
email: honor@dexmn.com

watch for:

april 1996:  the honor the earth web site http://www.honorearth.com
august 1996:  honor the earth benefit cd release
september 1996:  honor the earth benefit concerts and cd release parties
october 13, 1996 unplug america, a day to honor the earth.

for more info or to donate $ to the honor the earth fund, write to
honor the earth
po box 75423
st. paul, mn 55101
1-800-earth-07
email: honor@dexmn.com


i encourage you all to get involved with honor the earth.  they're a good
organization that can use the help of natives and non-natives alike.  we
all talk about getting involved, now let's really do it.

thanks y'all

janice (sleeping bear)

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your silence will not protect you...the transformation of silence into
language and action is an act of self-revelation that always seems
fraught with danger.
                      --audre lorde

oh -- i'm not that petty, as cool as i am, i thought you'd know this already,
i will not be afraid of women, i will not be afraid of women.

                                        --dar williams

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subject:      re: honor the earth

here's a couple of suggestions to add to the native american info. list:

the invasion of america
(indians, colonialism and the cant of conquest)
by francis jennings

aunt susie sampson peter;
the wisdom of a skagit elder
transcribed by vi hilbert
translated by vi hilbert and jay miller
printed "side by side" in lushootseed and english
(perhaps some of you may have seen the program on vi hulbert
a couple of months ago on pbs. a beautiful book !)

blockade
a film (avail. on video) on the efforts of a northern bc band
of indigenous people to regain their ancestral lands.
(the name of the band escapes me right now)

:)
claire

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subject:      more joni

i just bought "blue" two days ago. i'm in tower today with 12 bucks to my
name for the next two weeks. i see "court and spark" for 11.99. i
actually buy it! i think i've found a new musical addiction:) ben

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subject:      re: honor the earth / bootlegs

so i was thinkin'.......

i'm going to get some "unauthorized" ig tapes from listmembers
for no cost, because we are good, and not sleazy, people:)
and....
i have strong feelings that the artists should be supported
even if they don't know that their work is circulating.
so....
every time i get an unauthorized tape, i would like to
send the retail cost of that item to the
indigenous womans network .

would anyone happen to have the address for that organization ?
(or should i just send it to the honor the earth fund? to which i will
also send monies just because, because , because, because,
because.... because of the wonderful things they do :)
mercy bo-cups ! :)
claire

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subject:      re: amy and posting
x-to:         lynn@texas.net

in a message dated 96-03-27 23:51:15 est, you write:

> i'm with chris.  leave amy be.  she's trying the internet marketing
>thing.  she knows her fans adore her and want to spend more time with her.

me too!  we all know amy has been pretty apprehensive about the list in the
past, the last thing we want to do is to "scare" her off now. ben, please
dont do a "dar williams" on amy!  =)

"...those crazy internet list people..."

i think its a step in the right that she even wrote the email.

i think amy is the queen!  :)

jan

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subject:      re: (nigc) film research clarification

hi all!
i sent off a reply to carolyn about g/l film content,
but i really wanted to share this this part with those of you
who may relate. sorry for the nigc but we were kinda
talkin' about this and nobody has gotten mad so far....

i don't know if this counts as g&l but  i want to comment
on the first film i ever saw that struck a deep chord in me
about things that i didn't even know yet...

i was no more than 5 years old when i saw ingrid bergman
in "joan of arc". i was mesmerized by the movie ! the image
of a woman dressing as man and doing heroic things was
so inspiring to me !

for days after i saw that movie, i played out this fantasy where
i ride into the square just as they are about to immolate joan
and rescue her (we ride off together on my horse) !

of course in the film joan got her punnishment... but  i got this
unforgettable image of a strong, heroic woman that stayed with me.
i knew then that it was okay to not act like girls were supposed
to (and i really didn't identify with accepted "girl" behavior.).

somehow the burning at the stake thing got past me....
i thought that it was due to her poor choice (faith shmaith !)
of not telling them what they wanted to hear and then gettin'
the heck out of there.. with me preferably :)
( yeah, okay...god doesn't really doesn't talk to me..can i go now ?)
throughout  my childhood and adolescence, i was obsessed with
all things "joan of arc" i collected pictures, read everything about her,
and had heavy-duty fantasies about miss arc (never involving sex though,
allways centered around heroic adventures).
i didn't know it at the time, but that was my first crush :)


that's all (thanks for reading this babble),
claire

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subject:      (nigc) one more movie to see

adding on to the g&l movies to watch....
"when night is falling"  is one to watch.  movie poster says: a woman
must choose between the man she loves and the woman she desires.
if i say any more about it, i might give the movie away.  it is a
wonderful movie.  it is entertaining to the eye and to the mind.  there
is so much going on in the background, it's amusing.  also, not
everything is spelled out for you, you actually have to watch the movie.
finally a movie that is not just "chewing gum for the eyes."

-heather

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                you didn't."            -emily saliers
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subject:      songs of the day

all

        it seems the song of the day thread is bringing out a great deal
of information. not just personal views but facts about the lyrics eg
gal. and 3hits. so i have an idea does anybody / group of anybodys feal
like pulling together a faq on this. i can't really do it i have a job to
do. i will pitch in tho' if a number of people take on a yes vote. i
don't know a few songs each / an album etc ... anyway i don't have any of
the stuff saved so we might have to dig the archive etc ... i just think
we should officially capture this !!

jules
the bloke with the weight of his work in his hands !!

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subject:      another idea

hi again

        another idea just hit me. seeing as how we all go mad for the
boots etc... why don't those that know complie a list of what is
available. specifically shows and dates - i know i'd like the shows i was
at, ones of special interest etc .. this would of course end up in a
great heap of request for dubs etc .. but we could handle that after
expand the tape tree. we might be surprise by what is out there.

        whilst i'm here does any one have any tori amos boots ?

jules

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subject:      may 4th ticket for sale

for sale: one ticket, may 4th, new orleans
*indigo girls/joan baez/joan osborne* concert

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our group needs to sell our last ticket to the may 4th show.

this is an 18th row ticket.

we cannot provide transportation -- we're flying in -- but we do have
space in our hotel room for you. we'll be in n.o. from may 1 to may 5.

ticket will be sold at face value plus ticketmaster fees (total $39.90).
no bidding wars, first serious response gets it -- with priority going to
someone who needs a hotel room to stay in. (by serious i mean someone who
can agree to post a check to me by next week.) the ticket will be mailed
certified to you.

i don't want to bog down the list with more details so please email me
direct at <andrade@az.com> if you have any questions or just want to claim
the ticket. :) please try to keep your reply from going to the list :)

thanks! kristina

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subject:      re: ctf & 1200 curfews title

jules said:

"        does anyone think a+e see ctf as a bit of an albatross arounf
their necks, ya know oh well we gotta play that one etc ... i've seen em
twice over here and although they enjoy every minute of being on stage
they lost the bounce by the time ctf came around. then again imagine the
disappointment of they didn't."

i've been wondering, do a&e ever not play ctf at a concert?  has anyone
witnessed this occurance?  i've always been intrigued by songs that the
artists feel (usually rightly so) are a "required" part of the setlist.  i
remember seeing drivin' n' cryin' (a far cry from ig) not play straight to
hell.  great song, but it was nice to see them take the initiative to skip
playing it.  i probably would've been upset if i hadn't seen them 5 times
already.  (but that was years ago....)

re:  1200 curfews title
i expect that the list may have discussed this before.  can anyone offer
more insight on the album title?  i had a friend refer to it as "12:00
curfews" (12 o'clock curfews) which actually seems to make a lot of
sense.  anyone have any insight on this?

michael

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on fri, 29 mar 1996, michael valenta wrote:

> i expect that the list may have discussed this before.  can anyone offer
> more insight on the album title?  i had a friend refer to it as "12:00
> curfews" (12 o'clock curfews) which actually seems to make a lot of
> sense.  anyone have any insight on this?

if you go to the official sony website they have a graphic that shows
1,200 curfews (the comma is part of the title). i am guessing after they
listened to all the tapes from all the shows they felt as though they had
heard 1,200 shows, so 1,200 curfews. i would like to know how they picked
the number though (why not 1,500?). of course the comma could have just
been the whim of some goof who was hired by sony to do website graphics
and it was the way she or he read the title. i have read it as
"twelve-hundred curfews" and didnt think about it til now.

if i'm way off on the reason for the title, feel free to jump in. :)

kristina
andrade@az.com

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subject:      re: emily and her guitar
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.  who wants to talk abou> emily and he amazing fingers?
>
> wendell
>
well how about it wendell ?

how about the opening chords for joking, the higher ones, or the slide
solo for this train !?! amazes me that she can just do it all !!

you'd swear some of the solos were duets wouldn't ya !?!

part of the ig beauty is the great guitar work by both a&e a just
thrashes away like she's greating cheese but the passion. these two
really belive in what they are singing. take r&j cover by amy. the power
! or emily in southland !! the list is endless !

jules

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subject:      nigc - dykey films

hi folks,

this film thread is really interesting...here's my 2p's worth...
has anyone else seen when night is falling - canadian i think - visually
very rich - good plot - okay acting - nice love scene ;) - no negative
sterotyping and a happy ending!  saw it a while ago so can't remember too
much else about it, but i'd definitely recommend it...

last night we went to see a french film called french twist... hmmm - does
anyone else have an opinion on this??? i honestly can't decide if i loved it
or hated it.   basically the story of happy housewife who finds out her
husband has been screwing around...then meets butch dyke truckdriver (no
stereotypes here!), they have affair - then wife starts seeing hubby again
and they come to a sharing arrangement...  then dykes ex-gf turns up, wife
get jealous - husband plays on it... you get the picture - couple of
interesting but almost predictable twists at the end, but i won't give them
away...
anyway, it's very farcical with some really funny moments.  unfortunately it
was dubbed, which i hate - at least with subtitles you can really appreciate
the emotion in the actors voices - unfortunately the actors who had dubbed
the voices just sometimes made you cringe, and the translated script was
pretty naff too... i mean the delivery of a line like - "yes i'd love to
come with you to see u2, with you, too..." made me barf!   don't let that
put you off though - i think it's worth a watch, if only to cast a critical
eye...


seffy

whose favourite dykey film will always be desert  *...i'm not taking off my
robe...* hearts ;)    (patricia charbonneau=swoon!)

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subject:      indicated iii - get your requests in!!

indicated iii is about ready so get your requests in now!!

for you newcomers, "indicated" is a series of tapes containing ig songs as
performed and recorded by ig fans from around the world.  some of the songs
are a bit amateurish while others are close to professional quality.

indicated iii contributors:  if you gave me your postal address, i will send
your copy of indicated iii to you.

overseas and canadian list members:  send your requests to me.  i will
handle all overseas/canadian requests.

here's the deal:

to get your copy, you have to remember the month of your birth.  pick the
tape tree volunteer that corresponds to your month.

rob sticka:  january, february               rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov
sarah wiegman:  march, april                 sanawike1@aol.com
pamela shaw:  may, june                      sparkle@primenet.com
lisa nordeen:  july, august                  nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
stacy sheperson:  september, october         ssheperson@uoknor.edu
donna schwartz:  november, december          zkaa76a@prodigy.com

contact your respective tape tree volunteer to get details about their
postal addresses, self addressed stamped envelope requirements, sending a
blank tape, sending money, etc.  no one will be making any money on this tape!

i don't want to bias your opinion of this tape but i think you're gonna like it!

a personal request:  if you want a copy of indicated i or ii, ask me in
another month or so.  handling indicated iii only is the best i can do right
now.

i have made 6 master copies of indicated iii - direct copies of the tape
submittals i received.  each tape tree volunteer will receive a master copy
from which they will produce copies.  each tape was produced using no noise
reduction techniques (no dolby, dbx, etc.).


indicated iii contains:

side a

hammer and a nail - rob sticka/andrea bertino
mystery - scott ninnemann
galileo - two homesluts and a houseboy
strange fire - greg flamer/jamie weinberg/sherman serna
welcome me - lorinda wright/patty arrington
thin line - rob augino/courtney wright
finlandia - cats on fire
power of two - rob sticka/andrea bertino
hand me downs - katie mccurry/george patrick
blood and fire - pamela shaw
ghost - neil hunt/kirsti reeve/jaq delaney

side b

walk away - rob sticka/scot ninnemann
hey jesus - two homesluts and a houseboy
love will come to you - phil norman
three hits - lorinda wright/dan grossman
hand me downs - scot ninnemann
world falls - rob sticka
uncle john's band - cats on fire
land of canaan - rob augino/courtney wright
everybody's waiting for someone to come home - julie goldman/ashley filip
mystery - neil hunt
center stage - rob augino/courtney wright

i will post this same message to the list maybe a half dozen times over the
next two months.

if you're familiar with other lists that may be interested in this tape,
please forward this message to that list.  we want to spread the good ig word.


rob sticka

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subject:      emily saliers=guitar goddess

me again, yes wendell, i have to agree - emily and her amazing fingers...

i've been listening to lots of bootlegs and early stuff recently, and love
to hear how her style and skill has developed over the years.  you can
always tell an emily solo, she has quite a trademark style...something about
the use of scales and runs and thirds and stuff...but i never get bored of
it.  and its so rare that she fluffs a single note - i really respect this
woman!!!  i love her acoustic work but i'm also really impressed whenever
she plays electric.  i recently saw a boot video where they played touch me
fall - incredible that they even attempted to do such a song as a bare duo
without band (brought back memories of seeing them do the same live...)
watching em do all that distorted-screaming-feedback-against-the-amp stuff
made me breathless - amy rocked too!...

incidently, the solo in fugitive - i always thought this was amy's rare turn
at a solo - at the shepherds bush show they opened with this and amy played
the solo - think she fluffed a note, so at the end of the gig we were asked
if we minded hearing it again  (as if!) so that they could get it right for
the broadcast.  (actually i think the first attempt ended up on the tv)
since then tho' i've seen a video for a show and emily plays it...hmmm...
haven't got the cd with me today so can't check the liner notes...

on another subject -iis there anyone else in uk/europe who wants the purple
parrot show?  don't delay - mail me today...

have a great weekend everyone!
*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************


seffy

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subject:      re: emily saliers=guitar goddess
x-to:         seffy@epic.co.uk

>incidently, the solo in fugitive - i always thought this was amy's rare turn
>at a solo - at the shepherds bush show they opened with this and amy played
>the solo - think she fluffed a note, so at the end of the gig we were asked
>if we minded hearing it again  (as if!) so that they could get it right for
>the broadcast.  (actually i think the first attempt ended up on the tv)

i'm convinced at the start of that uk tour em played it too...

anyway, the shepherds bush thing (that's the disney special folks...)
just before the solo (at around the drum fill) there's a cut in the music
where they dubbed in the solo from the second attempt (and you can see amy
play notes at the 'wrong' time...) so that's what happened.

just needed a break from endless data input (oh how i love dissertations...)

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 05:38:39 -0800
reply-to:     "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
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subject:      re: honor the earth

sleeping bear wrote:

>she passed out a brochure regarding honor the earth which has a
>message from the girls in it that i thought y'all might like to read.  so
>here goes....i apologize in advance for the length of this message.

you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
daily, it really pains me to see a person apologize for a message which is
so clearly related to the indigo girls.  if they wrote it, it is appropriate
for this list.  please, no apology.  and thank you very much for posting
this.  i want you to know that i *really* appreciate when posts like this
come through.

:dwayne

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hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 13:53:18 gmt
reply-to:     billpannifer@easynet.co.uk
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subject:      joni... wonderful

just to second the plug for wally's really excellent joni page

http://www.well.com/user/wallyb/jonihome.html


in addition to everything mentioned so far, people should check out  hejira
(1976) with songs like amelia (about the ill-fated air pioneer amelia
earhardt) and furry sings the blues.... and the live album shadows and
light, with a band including pat metheney and jaco pastorius. the earlier
for the roses is great too (try cold blue steel and sweet fire, a song about
heroin addiction.) inspired lyrically, that incredible voice, and
adventurous, experimental music.

i see something of myself in everyone
right at this moment of the world
as snow gathers like bolts of lace
waltzing on a bridal girl

joni's meant to be touring again this year, it is rumoured... those
impossible octave leaps have gone but she's still great...


bill

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reply-to:     kim fischer
              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      re: honor the earth

dwayne wrote:
>you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
>daily, it really pains me to see a person apologize for a message which is
>so clearly related to the indigo girls.  if they wrote it, it is appropriate
>for this list.  please, no apology.  and thank you very much for posting
>this.  i want you to know that i *really* appreciate when posts like this
>come through.
i also very much appreciated this post it was an important one + the sort of
thing a person hopes to see on here. i was glad to hear a little more on
what it's all about.  i think there was no need for sleeping bear to
apologize for it's length.
i'd also bet a lot of money that my stuff is a lot of the "crap + personal
ramblings" that we get on this list daily... so; being the paranoid that i am, i
think i'll not post for a while. that way guys like dwayne who know what
this is all supposed to be about can have things the way they "should be".
peace all... you're still a fun + informative read, most of the time.
kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 06:23:48 -0800
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subject:      1200 curfews pics

hi folks,

anyone know the url for the site with the 1200 curfews photographs?

thanks
sharon

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subject:      and i knew that it was much more than a hunch

hummm, let's see..  out in the country, fade away blind,
it's allright, i gave everything, following my compass....

how come all of my favorite kristen hall songs feature
emily saliers on either guitar or harmony vocals?!

perplexed,
i-girl

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subject:      newport fest

does anyone know when the a & e will be playing newport?
i need to know asap to plan my vacation for them!!
thanks!

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subject:      tori/films/ctf

hello all on this wonderful friday.  i have chosen to delurk today.

first of all...someone asked about tori amos boots.  i have a toronto
1992 boot that is actually really good.  she sings smells like teen
spirit and one other song by another artist.  her in-between song
comments are very fuuny.  if you would like, i could tape it for you.
if so, e-mail me personally.
second of all...just a question.  has anyone seen the movie "bar
girls?"  if so, good, bad, indifferent?
finally (and then i will crawl back under my rock...i have seen the
girls perform ctf in all three of the concerts that i have been to.
they usually do it in the encore and it is definately a religous
experience.
excuse me as i exit stage left!

jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live" -emily sailers

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 09:49:00 cst
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from:         russ rutter <russ@dexmn.com>
subject:      honor the earth

thanks everybody for showing interest in the campaign--if you want to be put
on the mailing list or find out about cool merchadnise send me your e-mail and
snail mail address--i will continue to keep the list updated on what is going
on --peace, russs

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subject:      happy birthday!!!  (march 29, 1996)
x-cc:         jacquelyn.ottomeyer@yale.edu

happy birthday jacqui!!!
"...i call on the resting soul of galileo king of night vision king of
insight..."  :)

jacquelyn.ottomeyer@yale.edu
"galileo"
* :) *

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subject:      1200 curfews title & ghost

regarding the question of how exactly this title is pronounced (or
whatever..) :

     on the press release included in a newsletter from the ig fan
club, it is spelled out as "twelve hundred curfews"...so there ya
go..another problem solved..:)
    i think maybe a&e did that intentionally to give it a double
meaning i guess you could say...because unless i'm mistaken, the
curfews are always at 12:00 right?  anyway, i could be completely off
the mark, but hey, they are creative gals:) anyone else have any
opinions on this?
    okay, song of the day thread..ghost is my all time favorite song.
and judging from the ig survey, a lot of y'all join me on this:)  i
can't think of any way to describe it and i don't have any insight
worth sharing on it, but i must say that a few choice phrases enter
my mind when i think of this song:
      beautiful
      wonderful
      masterpiece
      tear-jerking
      heart-wrenching
   anyway, that's my opinion on it..i love this song..the guitar is
amazing and the orchestration on it is soooo cool:)  i can listen to
it over and over and still hear something new:)  my friend bob said
once that "only emily could write a song completely made up of
metaphors and make it that beautiful."  i'd have to say i agree with
him:)

                             peace and bless y'all,
                             shannon shevock (yamaha)
      ps. thanks to janice :) for that wonderful post about honor the
earth.  let's all get involved. it's the least we can do.

           -------------------------------------------
             "...one swallow does not make a summer,
             nor does one day; and so too one day, or
             a short time, does not make a [person]
             blessed and happy..."
                                 -aristotle
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subject:      re: emily and her guitar

i would like to respond to that.  i agree!!! the first time i heard the
igs playing i was very impressed with the guitar work, and then when i
saw them on the live at the uptown lounge video, i almost passed out from
being impressed.  i had no idea emily played all the solos and cool
frills.  then i began to study her, and i just can't get enough of how
she creates on that instrument.  i pride myself on learning the guitar
from the ig songbooks, but she did it from nothing.  well, that's not
true.  i guess she's been influenced by people's styles, but i think she
does the most beautiful and interesting solos.  who wants to talk about
emily and he amazing fingers?

wendell

        i would!  as the "emily" of my acoustic duo leadmill, i can only hope
        that i could someday achieve the same fluidity and soul that she does.
        sometimes i get a little frustrated because all my solos and riffs start
        to sound the same to me, and i haven't started experiencing with
        alternate tunings, just capoing.  as much as i want to sound like e, i
        wouldn't want to copy her style, just learn a little from it.  just
        gotta keep tryin'! :)

        jeremy
        http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 11:16:20 est
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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews title & ghost

the title 1200 curfews was taken for the album because it represents the
number of shows the ig have performed since they began performing in front of
live audiences.. a list of all the venues and their correct dates is
available from the sony site.  hint:  something to bounce your bootlegs off
of (which).

jude :)

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      ghost

well if yesterday was galileo day then i figure today is ghost
day...am i right?  and what a splendid day it is too...the sun is
shining brilliantly over ireland, honoring the excellence of ig!!
i know ghost is really popular and one of those songs non-ig diehards
tend to tag onto, but well it *is* a cool song and you can't help but
love it.  it was the first ig song i tried to play on
guitar...probably not the best place to start i know, but i just go
buzzy when i hear the intro gradually fade in...i'm always listening
for it as soon as the song before has finished, trying to catch the
exact point it starts...never succeeded because it just kind of melts
in...like it was always there in the background but starts to make
itself heard.  anyway i'm babbling...there are so many things i
could write about this song, it's relevance to so many aspects of my
life and the people around me...but i guess you've all heard it
before and know it's closeness and comfort first hand.  i still can't
play it properly...but i enjoy playing the intro over and over again!
i'm going to the movies tonight to at last see sense and sensibility.
today is just generally a very good day...i've had ghost in my head
since i got up this morning and it's made my day full of spring time
happiness...geez...what's up with me!?!?!!

hope you all have a fab weekend and may the sun shine brilliantly!

talk to y'all later

love helene
o o
^
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      1200 curfews

i am quite possibly wrong on this. but i do believe that it is 12 o'clock
curfews. many times i've seen bands keep playing and playing until they
say, sorry but we have a curfew. limitations from the venue? plus at the
end of the second cd i think amy says we gotta go, we have a curfew,
thanks yall. a friend and i still think it should have been called
_thanks yall_ though. it seems .... fitting. well thats it for me
peace love and slowly approacking ig concerts....aaaaahhh
krisal

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subject:      indicated iv?

     i know that this is probably way premature, but i was wondering if
     there would be a indicated iv coming up in the near future.  my group
     leadmill has a couple of ig covers that i would love to contribute if
     the interest is there!

     peace all,

     jeremy fuksa
     http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html

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subject:      re: honor the earth

dwayne wrote in regards to sleeping bear's post:

>you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
>daily, it really pains me to see a person apologize for a message which is
>so clearly related to the indigo girls.  if they wrote it, it is appropriate
>for this list.  please, no apology.  and thank you very much for posting
>this.  i want you to know that i *really* appreciate when posts like this
>come through.

obviously there is no need for sleeping bear to apoligize, but dwayne's post
really bugged me.  though i am not a frequent poster, i do occasionally
throw in my .02 (ie right now).

the 'crap and personal ramblings' dwayne refers to are sincere expressions
of others' feelings and personal experiences posted for the benefit of the
entire list.  just because dwayne may have neither the time nor the capacity
to reflect on these ramblings and in the process learn something about
himself, he shouldn't debase those who post these thoughts or those who
greatly appreciate them.

kim, please keep posting.

dwayne, the solution to your pain is a post to listserv@netspece.org with
the message "unsubscribe indigo-girls".

of course that's just my opinion, i could be wrong...

john

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in a message dated 96-03-29 09:11:12 est, kim writes:

> i'd also bet a lot of money that my stuff is a lot of the "crap + personal
>ramblings" that we get on this list daily... so; being the paranoid that i
>am, i
>think i'll not post for a while. that way guys like dwayne who know what
>this is all supposed to be about can have things the way they "should be".
>peace all... you're still a fun + informative read, most of the time.

i always enjoy your posts kim !
for me, a great part of this list is the human contact factor.
which is ig related in a way.
i know what you mean though, it rattled me too.
i think i'll shut up now for a looong time (maybe even 3 days ! :)

just rolling along with the rambling tumbleweeds.......
claire

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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: emily saliers=guitar goddess

i thought that the acoustic guitar article posted
on matt's website was really interesting.
it appears the woman is a natural !
when i watch her play she reminds me of miles davis
i'm not sure why, i think that it has something to do
with being in the presence of greatness, and it just
may be what a person looks like when they are really
connected to their muse.

claire (you can call me honey anytime :)
(feeling mushy today :)

"you're a fine one timer,
you got me walkin' through the gates of space...."
                                                      (laura nyro)

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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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dwayne wrote:

>you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
>daily...

i gotta disagree with you dwayne.  i've only been on the list for a short
while, but i think what makes this list special  is an incredible openess
and communication that other lists don't come close to.  having
contributed a personal rambling myself (which did also include an
apology) i was amazed at the responses and support i got in return from
people i have never met, but clearly feel in tune with.  i think the
personal nature of the postings is very much in keeping with the overall
ig spirit. plus, if you read the introductory letter, there are a few
sentances that i think are very true:

>when you first start receiving e-mail you will notice that the list has
a different feel to it
>than a usenet group, irc, or even other mailing lists.
>we have fun talking about the girls and being together.
>if it seems like everyone knows each other, its because in a very real
way
>we have come to know each other.  be patient and we'll get to know you
soon.
>welcome to out list family!

finally, it seems that most of the personal messages come in connection
to the song of the day, which, along with providing occasional factual
info like with 3 shots and galileo, seems to be the whole point of song
of the day.  to identify and tell stories about what the ig songs mean to
you personally.  the ig music has proved very cathartic to me and,
clearly, to many others on the list.  if the list can have the same
effect, than i'm all for the personal messages.  if some people use it as
a bit of a support group, fine.  besides, i think what attracts a lot of
us to ig is the personal nature of their material.   you can always not
read them if your not interested, or start a new list that forbids nigc
or personal ramblings.  i know i wouldn't join it.

kim wrote:
> i'd also bet a lot of money that my stuff is a lot of the "crap +
personal
>ramblings" that we get on this list daily... so; being the paranoid that
i am, i
>think i'll not post for a while. that way guys like dwayne who know what
>this is all supposed to be about can have things the way they "should
be".
>peace all... you're still a fun + informative read, most of the time.

i think if people such as kim  feel intimidated and hesitant to post,
than a great disservice has been done and the list has lost something
valuable.   kim, please don't stop posting! the list wouldn't be the same
without your input.

my $.03 (inflation).  peace and moos,

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc re: convenience store cuisine
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the 2 best things to be had from one of those are:
squirt, and
milky way dark ice cream bars.
not necessarily together, mind you.
peace,
karey

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from:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: honor the earth
x-to:         kim fischer
              <caspian.powell-river.coc.bc.ca@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
in-reply-to:  <9603290600.aa14213@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca>

ya know, maybe it's just me....i belong to a couple different mailing
lists, and hands down this one is my favorite one to read.  i have been
amazed by the lack of "crap" we get....almost everyone is courteous,
respectful of others' opinions and time and bandwidth, fun and
personable.  i enjoy all the posts and i hope no one (that's you too
kim!) feels like they should stop posting.  but then again, that's just
mho.  --gwen

on sun, 22 may 1994, kim fischer wrote:

> dwayne wrote:
> >you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
> >daily, it really pains me to see a person apologize for a message which is
> >so clearly related to the indigo girls.  if they wrote it, it is appropriate
> >for this list.  please, no apology.  and thank you very much for posting
> >this.  i want you to know that i *really* appreciate when posts like this
> >come through.
> i also very much appreciated this post it was an important one + the sort of
> thing a person hopes to see on here. i was glad to hear a little more on
> what it's all about.  i think there was no need for sleeping bear to
> apologize for it's length.
>  i'd also bet a lot of money that my stuff is a lot of the "crap + personal
> ramblings" that we get on this list daily... so; being the paranoid that i am, i
> think i'll not post for a while. that way guys like dwayne who know what
> this is all supposed to be about can have things the way they "should be".
> peace all... you're still a fun + informative read, most of the time.
> kim.
> <kim fischer>
>  rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
> *************************************
> well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
> every five years or so i look back on my life
> and have a good laugh.
>  - e. saliers
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reply-to:     sharney@smith.smith.edu
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from:         sharney@smith.smith.edu
subject:      purple parrot tapes

greetings from cold and kinda snowy massachusetts!!  this is just a note to
everyone out there who responded to me about the purple parrot tape.  if i
haven't written you back, could you please write me again??  the combination
of the immense number of responses, and my system crashing again has left me
unsure about whether or not i sent everyone my address.  so, to make a long
story short, drop me a line if i've forgotten you, okay??
here's hoping for some wonderful "ghost" commentaries on this beautiful day!
sue
sharney@smith.smith.edu

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reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: honor the earth
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on fri, 29 mar 1996, keates, harry wrote:

> dwayne wrote:
>
> >you know, with all the crap and personal ramblings we get on this list
> >daily...
>
> i gotta disagree with you dwayne.  i've only been on the list for a short
> while, but i think what makes this list special  is an incredible openess
> and communication that other lists don't come close to.  having
> contributed a personal rambling myself (which did also include an
> apology) i was amazed at the responses and support i got in return from
> people i have never met, but clearly feel in tune with.  i think the
> personal nature of the postings is very much in keeping with the overall
> ig spirit. plus, if you read the introductory letter, there are a few
> sentances that i think are very true:
>
> >when you first start receiving e-mail you will notice that the list has
> a different feel to it
> >than a usenet group, irc, or even other mailing lists.
> >we have fun talking about the girls and being together.
> >if it seems like everyone knows each other, its because in a very real
> way
> >we have come to know each other.  be patient and we'll get to know you
> soon.
> >welcome to out list family!
>
> finally, it seems that most of the personal messages come in connection
> to the song of the day, which, along with providing occasional factual
> info like with 3 shots and galileo, seems to be the whole point of song
> of the day.  to identify and tell stories about what the ig songs mean to
> you personally.  the ig music has proved very cathartic to me and,
> clearly, to many others on the list.  if the list can have the same
> effect, than i'm all for the personal messages.  if some people use it as
> a bit of a support group, fine.  besides, i think what attracts a lot of
> us to ig is the personal nature of their material.   you can always not
> read them if your not interested, or start a new list that forbids nigc
> or personal ramblings.  i know i wouldn't join it.
>
> kim wrote:
> > i'd also bet a lot of money that my stuff is a lot of the "crap +
> personal
> >ramblings" that we get on this list daily... so; being the paranoid that
> i am, i
> >think i'll not post for a while. that way guys like dwayne who know what
> >this is all supposed to be about can have things the way they "should
> be".
> >peace all... you're still a fun + informative read, most of the time.
>
> i think if people such as kim  feel intimidated and hesitant to post,
> than a great disservice has been done and the list has lost something
> valuable.   kim, please don't stop posting! the list wouldn't be the same
> without your input.
>
> my $.03 (inflation).  peace and moos,
>
>   harry a. keates
>   email: hak@crai.com
i don't have the time right now to say all i want, but harry here and a
couple others before me have said it swell-ly.  please don't stop posting!
please don't feel intimidated!  that lizard thing yesterday made me laugh
out loud.  personal stuff is what this is all about, imho (even though i'm
new).  just wanted to add another voice in support.
peace,
karey

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subject:      re: honor the earth

on 29 mar 96 at 12:51, keates, harry wrote:

> i gotta disagree with you dwayne.  i've only been on the list for a short
> while, but i think what makes this list special  is an incredible openess
> and communication that other lists don't come close to.

i absolutely agree with you. i have posted some fairly personal stuff
on this list. i always receive very kind and supportive responses
from the folks here.

the openess, sharing, and deep connection i feel with many of the
list members is what keeps me here.

for me alot of what the music of ig is about is connecting with each
other, the earth, ourselves, in a sense our collective spirituality.
the personal reflections on this list, wether directly ig related or
not, seem to, for me, promote and further the emotional
and spiritual connections that bind us all together, and draw many of
us to the music of ig.

just my opinion.

i hope people like kim and harry continue to post, and post often.

there now i have done some of that personal ramblings dwayne seems to
dislike.

peace and love y'all

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"if we build a society based on honoring the earth,
we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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from:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      personal rambling warning & ghost
x-to:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <1e41a7a0189@sperrin.ulst.ac.uk>

hmmm, it's awfully sunny for a march morning in seattle.  those of you
who know me (hi philly!) know how i treasure the rain&mud here in the
pnw, but our sunny spring days can't be beat.  ghost is a song that
brings mixed emotions in me.  i always think of heart-wrenching pain when
i hear it.  right after i bought the album (on a road trip to arizona in
1992...great driving tunes!) a woman who was to become my roommate told
me the story of a night she spent with track 3 on repeat, drinking wine
and howling to the moon over a broken heart...she always was a little
melodramatic...yet i felt much the same way when a deceptively-easy
breakup the previous summer turned sour almost a year later.  i was
convinced that i had made a huge mistake, the love of my life was gone
forever...how true those words become: "unknowing captor you never know
how much you/pierce my spirit but i can't touch you/can you hear it a cry
to be free/or i'm forever under lock and key/as you pass thru me..."
it's one of those perfect songs where every word is perfectly chosen.  no
wonder it has such an enormous following.

i later learned that no, "love will come to you", and it was just that
irrational longing part of me that loved the pain of heartache (in some
sick way...even though it completely destroyed me for a while there).  i
can't really love "ghost" above all other ig songs if only for the pain
it represents.  but it is such a heart-wrenchingly beautiful song, one
that only a person who has experienced such a think can possibly write.

i'm sitting here today, enjoying the sun and my new nosepiercing (a move
i have wanted to make for ten years, but it never occurred to me until
this week that i could just do it...never mind the two tattoos, somehow
the thought didn't really cross my mind...duh) and i'll be damned if
everyone on my campus has not completely avoided me so far.  maybe i'm
just paranoid, but my entire nursing class just pretended it wasnt'
there.  i don't get it.  oh well.  i didn't do this for a reaction,
simply because i liked the way it looked, so it really doesn't make a
difference to me as long as my laboring patients don't object to it in
the hospital (i'm doing obstetrics/labor&delivery this quarter).  people
are strange when you're a stranger.,....

--gwen

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc: df factoid and rave

first the factoid.  a few weeks ago we were wondering if cindy was
also appearing on the new df album (seeds in the sahara).  i asked
sonia last night and she said "yep!  she's singing, just not touring."
so there you have it from about as good of a source as you're gonna get. =)

now the rave-- oh my god what a great show!!!!!  i finally got an idea
of what it was like to be in the atlanta club scene following the
girls--small venue, huge energy. =) last night a few of us trekked out
to northampton see them at the iron horse (my first show there, great
venue).  we were sitting at a front row table, right (the door) side.
lost a little hearing, but it was quite worth it.  2 encores and they
did "postcard from texas."  and after asking my question, sonia
extened her hand to me and said "thanks for coming."  *beam* she's so
awesome.  =)

sorry about the extended rave, but i had to get it out--i'm sure some
folks here understand =)

                        -- chris

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 11:52:39 mst
reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      an open message to dwayne and other people who think...

...that the "personal ramblings and other crap" on this list are
pointless or inappropriate.

i take great offense to that pronouncement. i think many of us on this list
make it very clear that we value each other, each other's personal stories,
and the meaning that we find in ig music as it relates to our lives.

if you don't want to read our "personal ramblings an other crap", i
suggest you hit "delete" when the subject heading isn't of interest to you
or has the tag of nigc. that way, we on the list who care about each other
won't waste your precious time.

my temper tantrum for the day-
susan
who loves the stories, confessions, and openness of the people on this
list who dare to do so

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      re: nigc - dykey films
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i couldn't decide if i liked it or not either.  i kept asking the woman i saw it
with, "where does this happen???"  she is french, so she was saying, "in france"
:).  i thought it was pretty bizarre, though, and it just kept getting weirder
and weirder until it was just kind of silly in the end.
yvette

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subject: nigc - dykey films
author:  rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk> at smtpcc
date:    3/29/96 4:12 am


hi folks,

this film thread is really interesting...here's my 2p's worth...
has anyone else seen when night is falling - canadian i think - visually
very rich - good plot - okay acting - nice love scene ;) - no negative
sterotyping and a happy ending!  saw it a while ago so can't remember too
much else about it, but i'd definitely recommend it...

last night we went to see a french film called french twist... hmmm - does
anyone else have an opinion on this??? i honestly can't decide if i loved it
or hated it.   basically the story of happy housewife who finds out her
husband has been screwing around...then meets butch dyke truckdriver (no
stereotypes here!), they have affair - then wife starts seeing hubby again
and they come to a sharing arrangement...  then dykes ex-gf turns up, wife
get jealous - husband plays on it... you get the picture - couple of
interesting but almost predictable twists at the end, but i won't give them
away...
anyway, it's very farcical with some really funny moments.  unfortunately it
was dubbed, which i hate - at least with subtitles you can really appreciate
the emotion in the actors voices - unfortunately the actors who had dubbed
the voices just sometimes made you cringe, and the translated script was
pretty naff too... i mean the delivery of a line like - "yes i'd love to come
with you to see u2, with you, too..." made me barf!   don't let that put you
off though - i think it's worth a watch, if only to cast a critical eye...


seffy

whose favourite dykey film will always be desert  *...i'm not taking off my
robe...* hearts ;)    (patricia charbonneau=swoon!)

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reply-to:     jriley@smith.smith.edu
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from:         jriley@smith.smith.edu
subject:      1200 curfews title and other stuff

        okay, maybe someone has already said this (i have trouble keeping up
with all the mail!), but at the nff '95, amy and emily were talking about
the title of the new album, and they said something to the effect that it
would be called 1200 curfews because of all the live shows where they have
layed way past when they were supposed to stop (the "curfew", i guess) and have
gotten in trouble.  but, hey, i could have misheard.  i was very very close
to them and slightly freaking out (it was my fourth time seeing them but its
always amazing!).
                                and
        the nff '96 is scheduled for i think the 10th and 11th of august this
year.

                                and
        this might be silly but i would love to find a boot of either their
earthday 94 show at unh, or july 2nd 94 at great woods, or any of their
newport ff appearances... does anyone have any info.?
                        thanks!

peace, love, and harmony,
jennie

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 13:53:04 -0600
reply-to:     rachel <rachel.g.rabaey-1@tc.umn.edu>
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from:         rachel <rachel.g.rabaey-1@tc.umn.edu>
subject:      petition to the salt lake city school board  (nigc)

i know some of your really hate stuff like this, and the only reason why i
am posting this is because we had that big discussion going a while back
on this topic . . . and i figured that enough of you out there cared about
this to to send it to the whole group.

rachel

---------- forwarded message ----------

>petition to the salt lake city school board
>
>on february 20, 1996, the salt lake city school board voted to ban all
>clubs in order to keep a gay/lesbian/straight alliance from forming at
>east high school.  despite numerous phone calls and countless letters, the
>board seems to remain recalcitrant.
>
>salt lake city will host the 2002 winter olympics with the slogan "the
>world is welcome here." the salt lake city school board's decision calls
>into question how much of the "world" is truly "welcome" here. the
>citizens' alliance for hate free schools, a project of the utah human
>rights coalition, calls on all supporters of the rights of young people to
>have equal access to educational opportunities and safe schools to sign
>the following petition.
>
>please sign the petition and then forward to someone else.
>
>if you are a tenth person to sign your name, forward the
>list back to me: cdorchard@earthlink.net
> (i.e. the 10th, 20th, 30th person will forward this message to me in
>progress)  i will compile the petition and send it to the board members.
>
>target deadline:  june 4, 1996
>
>petition to the salt lake city school board
>
>"we, the undersigned, support the efforts by area high school students to
>organize non-curricular clubs and alliances designed to increase
>understanding and good will among the high school population and the
>general public as well. we call on the salt lake city school board to resist
>all illegal attempts at intimidation and coercion to deprive students of
>their legally guaranteed rights. we request that they take immediate
>action to reverse their decision of february 20, 1996, to ban all clubs."
>
>#
>name
>e-mail address (not obligatory)
>place of residence
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>1
>charlene orchard
>salt lake city, ut
>
>2
>john spear
>glstnjohn@aol.com
>ny, ny
>
>3
>knox turner
>ktagrpnh@aol.com
>northwood, nh
>
>4
>randal l kottwitz
>rlkottwitz@aol.com
>merrimack, nh
>
>5jessea greenman
><jessea@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
>oakland ca
>
>6 steven shum
>sshum@ucrac1.ucr.edu
>riverside, ca
>
>7 chi-wai au
>cau@pomona.edu
>san gabriel, ca
>
>8 fitz mangubat, jr.
>fmangubat@pomona.edu
>honolulu, hi
>
>9 thelmo garcia jr.
>tgarcia@pomona.edu
>downey, ca
>
>10 leslie castellanos
>lcastellanos@pomona.edu
>claremont, ca
>
>11 arvin tseng
>atseng@pomona.edu
>claremont, ca
>
>12 donkokko burnaby
>dab67@columbia.edu
>new york, ny
>
>13 gideon banner
>ggggbbbb@minerva.cis.yale.edu
>new haven, ct
>
>14 kohar jones
>kohar@minerva.cis.yale.edu
>new haven, ct
>
>15 claudia brittenham
>cbritt99@minerva.cis.yale.edu
>new haven, ct
>
>16 melissa kathryn fox
>foxm1@gusun.georgetown.edu
>washington, dc
>
>17 andrew rothman
>university of cincinnati - ccm
>cincinnati, oh
>
>18 heather onutz
>onutzha@ucunix.san.uc.edu
>cincinnati, oh
>
>19 john berman
>bermanjb@ucunix.san.uc.edu
>cincinnati, oh
>
>20 emily cost
>   cicinnati, oh
>
>21 j.z.kline
>klineja@ucunix.san.uc.edu
>cincinnati, oh
>
>22 chris britton
>brit@access.mountain.net
>morgantown,wv

23 herman yue
yue@owlnet.rice.edu
houston, tx

24 siri hakala
hakalase@cda.mrs.umn.edu
morris, mn

25  rachel rabaey
raba0007@gold.tc.umn.edu
minneapolis, mn

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from:         yen m tang <fakeoj@aol.com>
subject:      song copyrights

i was thinking today. emily and amy are separate songwriters. why don't they
copyright their songs, ummmm, separately? i mean, i can see how it unifies
them even more so as a strong duo by saying that these are our songs, not
just amy's songs or em's songs. i notice in other bands and such, individual
members copyright their own songs. i guess ig is different. hmmmmm. go
figure...

oh, and i believe ghost is one of the most beautiful songs in existence. at
the end, when amy sings 'in love with your ghost...' no, she doesn't sing it.
she cries it. tears me up. but it is an emily song. not an amy song.

just kidding,
yen

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sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: and i knew that it was much more than a hunch
x-to:         iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.a32.3.91.960328134617.7138a-100000@hopper.library.nwu.edu>

> hummm, let's see..  out in the country, fade away blind,
> it's allright, i gave everything, following my compass....
>
> how come all of my favorite kristen hall songs feature
> emily saliers on either guitar or harmony vocals?!
>
> perplexed,
> i-girl

m              m   eeeeeeee       ttttttttttttt  oooooooo     oooooooo
m m           mm   e                    t       o        o   o        o
m  m         m m   e                    t       o        o   o        o
m   m       m  m   e                    t       o        o   o        o
m    m     m   m   eeeeee               t       o        o   o        o
m     m   m    m   e                    t       o        o   o        o
m      m m     m   e                    t       o        o   o        o
m       m      m   eeeeeeee             t        oooooooo     oooooooo

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 15:06:12 -0500
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from:         jriley@smith.smith.edu
subject:      indigo girls make me happy...

hi!
        i'm new to the list, and i just wanted to rely my very best ig story.
after the nff last summer my friends and i found that we were staying in the
same hotel as the ig.  not only that, they were only a few doors down from me.
i am a big ol' dork, so i wandered the hallways in hopes of cattching a glimpse. when emily came around the corner, i thought i would pee.  i said hi instead,
and she very graciously stopped spoke and (yes i am a cheeseball) gave me her
autograph.  she was remarkably patient considering they'd been playing on the
rain earlier.  but it made me happy that she was so nice to a silly liddle
fan like me.  she has the most beautiful voice!!!  yay for emily.  okay, that's
all.  thank's for listening.

peace, love, and lacrosse,
jennie
smith '99

ps  i caught a glimpse of amy too, but could not say a word...

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 14:24:11 -0600
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subject:      honor the eath info

i just want tothank all of you who helped me out with my request for
information.  i really appreciate y'all taking the time to reply.  the
sources you gave me will definitely help with my research!  thanks!
amanda

"my life is part of the global life
i found myself becoming more immobile
when i think a little girl in the world
can't do anything."

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 15:16:11 -0500
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i truly feel that ghost is one of my favorite ig songs of all time, no
matter how many times i hear it, i still get a chill. it's not simply one
or two lines that does it but the entire song, it's a great one!

lisa

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 12:27:17 -0800
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subject:      re: ghost
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what could i say about ghost that wouldn't be redundant?  it's  a great
song for memories that come out of nowhere and call back all the things
you thought had been left behind.  it's one of the best songs i have
heard by any band anywhere.

graham nash once said that the idea is to write a song so personal that
everyone can relate to it.  maybe contradictory, but i haven't met a
person who heard the song who didn't relate to it in some way  i only
wish it had been written in my key, cuz i'd love to sing it...

succinctly,
mike

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 15:32:55 -0500
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subject:      re: song copyrights

and then there is rem, who credits everyone in the band and their lawyer and
manager in the copyright....michael stipe said that this way no one could be
tempted to leave the band and take the songs with them. he is often quoted as
saying that each of the members know that together they are stronger than
alone. emily and amy say the same about themselves...if i remember correctly
one of them said that emily alone is too much emily, and amy alone is too
much amy. i think amy said it.

must be that georgia water,
kate

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dear all,

ghost is my song. one particular thing about it that i love is the
more subtle idea of being *haunted* by something or someone,
especially if it/they never really existed for anyone else. thats my
spin anyway.

i read an article where a and e were talking about what inspired some
of their songs and e said of ghost:

"when i was writing ghost i was thinking about the feeling of never
being able to get over someone in particular.  how endless and painful,
yet powerful that is." (thats only slightly paraphrased-i don't have
it in front of me now.)

just out of curiousity, does anyone know how many people there on
this fabulous list? i sure a hell get a lot of mail now....wish i
had time to read it all.

toodles,

jody in utah where gay hs students can't have a club because that
would threaten the american way.

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 16:39:07 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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subject:      re: song copyrights

>i was thinking today. emily and amy are separate songwriters. why don't they
>copyright their songs, ummmm, separately? i mean, i can see how it unifies

i'm thinking it's because the songs really do belong to both of them. one girl
does write the lyrics and music, but they work together on arrangements,
solo's etc. so, say amy writes a song, but my guess is that emily probably does
most of the work on the solo. (aside from amy's incredibly helpfull in-depth
advice such as, "yeah, but maybe make it, like, more dynamic.")
so the songs are really both of theirs.

>the end, when amy sings 'in love with your ghost...' no, she doesn't sing it.
>she cries it. tears me up. but it is an emily song. not an amy song.

so yen, are you admitting that you _like_ something amy did? :) :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 17:01:42 -0500
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subject:      re: 1200 curfews title & ghost
x-to:         jhunter@fdic.gov
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              29, 96 11:16:20 am

the sony list of shows is good, but i noticed a few errors on their dates
and omissions, as if it were from some sort of bootleg list or something,

also, i am currently mulling over the idea of selling some of my ig
rarities, including a so green vinyl, and days of wine and roses, and
perhaps my shades cd, i am not entirely sure how i will do this but i will
be reasonable (no auctions!) and fair or something...

mike r.

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 14:39:00 -0800
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from:         gianina giammarinaro <gg1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      nigc  the "d" button is on the left side of the keyboard...
x-to:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
in-reply-to:  <009a00ee.b1854c11.171@cc.colorado.edu>

...and can be easily pressed with the middle finger of one's left hand
when one encounters a message that he/she/it does not wish to read.
i suspect that i have already lost most of the people on the list by now,
and i'm sorry if this sounds too blunt-  but

on fri, 29 mar 1996, susan marine wrote:
> i take great offense to that pronouncement. i think many of us on this list
> make it very clear that we value each other, each other's personal stories,
> and the meaning that we find in ig music as it relates to our lives.

and i heartily agree with her.  this list turns fanatics into friends,
nuts into nerds, and has a lot of great comraderie and humor along the
way.  we're all here because we enjoy/love/worship (pick one or all) the
indigo girls, but we have our own lives as well.  and the sharing of all
those things is what makes this list special.  i have no wish whatsoever
to offend or single out anyone, but the last time i looked freedom of
expression applied here too.  if somebody only wishes to see posts
directly related to the ig's music in an explicit way, sorry.  perhaps
there are other places to find what you are looking for.  if not, there's
always the good old "delete" button.
sorry i rambled so much, and perhaps some of your middle fingers are too
occupied by flipping off the screen to do anything else, but my mamma
always said i couldn't please everybody...

"and the way our differences combine, to create meaning and beauty."

gia

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      re: honor the earth

woe... i get home from the hospital, log onto the internet + check my mail,
and what do i find?.... a whole mess of nice-ness from some really great
people. i guess dwayne wasn't speaking for the majority... there's a warm
happy place here after all. too wonderful.
peace + pleasent ramblings, kim ( who may just work up enough nerve to post
again, soon, after all.  you folks are great )
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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well there's always retrospect to light a clearer path
every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 18:18:16 -0500
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subject:      camping in louisiana during jazzfest/may 4 concert

hi everyone!

to whoever posted that "frequently asked questions about the n.o.
jazzfest" thing recently--thanks! i noticed that it included a phone
number to call for more info. about camping....well, thought i'd add a
couple $.02 more about this subject, in case any of y'all are thinking of
camping....

the info. i have is about camping in state parks (not private
campgrounds--a separate sort of deal). there are 15 state parks in la,
and 4 of them are quite close to new orleans. below are the phone numbers
for these 4 parks. if you're interested in camping, i suggest you call
and reserve one or more sites, just to make sure you can snag one. they
accept visa or mc or payment by check or money order, and it's cheap--$12
per site per night. you only need to reserve (pay for) the first night
for each site (i.e. if you want to reserve 2 sites, it would be $24).
each site is allowed a maximum of 6 people, 2 tents, and 2 vehicles (1
vehicle at some of the parks). the $12 campsites are called
"improved campsites", which means they have water (showers et al) and
electricity hookups.

these 4 parks are close to n.o.:

1)  bayou segnette state park:  (504) 736-7140
        * this is where a group of us florida ig fanatics are staying--
            reserve a spot here!!
        * 25 to 30 minutes from n.o., depending on time of day

2)  fairview-riverside state park:  (504) 845-3318

3)  fontainebleau state park:  (504) 624-4443

4)  st. bernard state park:  (504) 682-2101


if you have a reservation, these are the "check-in" times (i.e. when a
ranger is on duty and the gate is open):

        m-th: 7 am-8 pm;  fri-sun: 7 am-10 pm

if you're interested in camping, give them a call and reserve a spot! (and
try to choose bayou segnette!! that's where a bunch of us will be,
may 1-may 5).

peaceful weekend to you all,

christine  :)

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 16:46:09 mst
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subject:      i know, i know...enough already! and ghost

i can't believe i have posted three times in one day, i really need to]
spend less time i am on email, i am pretty sure i am a cyberdork now! :)

ahhhh, ghost. i think everyone has said so many things that come to mind when
we listen to this song. but i have a strange experience i wonder if anyone
else could relate to...

the person who really turned me on to the indigo girls is my ex. he loved them
and he shared them with me, and i grew to love them too. now that he is not
a part of my life (by his doing, and no, i am not really bitter), i find
that i can still listen to every single ig song as i always have.....except for
ghost. i don't know why...when i hear emily's fade-in at the start it is
as if i am physically compelled to hit the skip button on my cd player.

ghost is an incredibel song, definitely one of my favorites. but for me,
and maybe cause the hurt is still semi-fresh, i cannot listen to it without
losing it. and i am really proud of how far i have come in getting over him,
but when i hear ghost, it's like i regress.

sorry i rambled...thanks for listening. even those of you who are annoyed,
it's nice to know i could share this. anyone else have the "i just can't
listen to that particular ig song" experience? any of the ig's songs?

take care

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      ghost

this song has a special poingancy in my life right now.  i actually avoid
this cd so that i do not cry everytime i hear that, and romeo and juliet.  i
think i mentioned a few posts back that i have recently broke up with a lover
and it is just hurting so bad.  gosh, i don't think i have anything
intelligable to say, but thanks for listening.

prone to histrionics anyway....pooh

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     i have that now with power of two.  i was in a 4-1/2 year relationship
     and she didn't really like ig but i felt this song described our
     relationship well, and she loved this song also.  then we started to
     kinda break up, and i was sort of seeing someone new at about the same
     time (and so was she), and i introduced the new person to ig and now
     she loves them and of course she loves pof2 the most and says it
     reminds her of me.  great.  now i can't listen to that song at all
     because i can't decide to be sad about the love i lost or happy about
     someone new i like......it's a very bizarre feeling, like if i could
     just feel one way or the other, it would be ok, even if i was really
     sad.  weird, huh?
     yvette


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author:  susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu> at smtpcc
date:    3/29/96 4:19 pm


i can't believe i have posted three times in one day, i really need to]
spend less time i am on email, i am pretty sure i am a cyberdork now! :)

ahhhh, ghost. i think everyone has said so many things that come to mind when
we listen to this song. but i have a strange experience i wonder if anyone
else could relate to...

the person who really turned me on to the indigo girls is my ex. he loved them
and he shared them with me, and i grew to love them too. now that he is not
a part of my life (by his doing, and no, i am not really bitter), i find
that i can still listen to every single ig song as i always have.....except for
ghost. i don't know why...when i hear emily's fade-in at the start it is
as if i am physically compelled to hit the skip button on my cd player.

ghost is an incredibel song, definitely one of my favorites. but for me,
and maybe cause the hurt is still semi-fresh, i cannot listen to it without
losing it. and i am really proud of how far i have come in getting over him,
but when i hear ghost, it's like i regress.

sorry i rambled...thanks for listening. even those of you who are annoyed,
it's nice to know i could share this. anyone else have the "i just can't
listen to that particular ig song" experience? any of the ig's songs?

take care

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 19:35:26 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      daemonrecs-info list

>it's nice to know i could share this. anyone else have the "i just can't
>listen to that particular ig song" experience? any of the ig's songs?

no, not really, but i've found that i can't listen to any ig at all if my
attention is required elsewhere. if someone's talking to me, or if i'm trying
to work, i just can't listen cuz i can't bear to not give ig my full
attention. :)

and a note about the daemonrecs-info list! i asked mellie price, and she had
to manually remove me from the list and have me re-subscribe. we'll see if
that works. so if you're having trouble with this list (i.e. you've subscribed
and you aren't getting mail) you should email mellie at mellie@monsterbit.com
this is only for people who have subscribed to the daemonrecs-info list and
aren't receiving mail. if you want to subscribe to that list, you have to send
a "subscribe daemonrecs-info" message to majordomo@monsterbit.com
i'm saying this in the hopes that poor mellie doesn't get a rush of "oooh,
subscribe me!" messages. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

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subject:      ghost

my hands down favorite ig song, without a doubt.  i have some very very
strong feelings associated with this song, more so now than the first time i
heard it and immediately bought tickets to my first ig show (newport '92)
within a hour of hearing the song.
    i go to a summer camp called pine tree camp, which is for kids and
adults with all flavors of disabilities.  ptc is my favorite place in the
world, with raffles cafe in portland me or a few places i bike in lewiston
being distant seconds or thirds. i have attended camp sine i was 10, so many
life long friends have been made.  unfortunately, many of my friends are
seriously ill or dead because of various disabilities, namely muscular
dystrophy or md.
    my closest friend ever also went to camp with me, but he lived in the
same city and we went to the same school. his name was bill st. pierre and
me and him were born on the same day, 11/18/73! that was the coolest thing
because how many people could ever say their friend was two hours older than
them? but the wierd thing is that bill was born appearently normal, he was
the perfect baby and all that jazz. i spent a month in intensive care with
several complications and developed cerebral palsy. one year i found the
birth announcements for the day we were born and photocopied it for a part
of a gift to him, he was listed, i wasnt because i was supposed to die.
bill was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy at six...

are you with me here? this does have major igc!

ok, so i did not meet bill till i was 8 and he was in a wheelchair, but
could still walk partially, for like the first six months i knew him. by 12
he was in an electric wheelchair with a manual joystick and well, we were
inseperatable, like brothers...he probably knew me better than anyone, but
when i found out what md really was, i was told he would be dead by 16, and
would never graduate high school.

too bad they forgot to tell him that as he sat next to me in june 1992, at
graduation, where our inside joke was that he wouldn't make it out of the
ceremony alive ... i kept whispering that he'd better die really soon (like
in five or ten minutes) or something in the order of the universe would be
like messed up. he made it out of the ceremony intact, in fact we spent that
night together at his physical therapist house cus project graduation was
not accessable. (well if he would have listened to conventional wisdom. it
wouldn't have been a problem right 8^)) (for all of those who may be
offended, i never ever wanted bill to die, it is mainly crip humor, cus if
you can't laugh at yourself you would cry your eyes out)

he was in the hospital the same week i was to go to my first show in '92
with pneumonia, i almost cancelled my trip and told him if he dared to think
about dying the one weekend i was gone, he better think again....

he did not die then either, but i left for college and we were still in very
close contact, then i went home for the summer between freshman and sophmore
year in college, he was in college as well, and we went to camp and were
much more closer than we had been in years.

i returned to school and one of our close mutual friends died that october,
ghost, it seemed, helped bill deal with that, and he had a dub of rites of
passage.

spring break i did alot of stuff with bill, took care of him, hung out, ect.
he was more tired but not totally bad, we had spent hours and days chatting
on what can be best described as irc for a mainframe that whole school year.
i was too be home for easter, and we were to go shopping

    his dad forgot to pick me up but knowing bill the way i did i found him
at the mall within five minutes after my mom dropped me off.  i had news,
tixs for the first show of swamp ophelia tour were on sale the day after
easter, hell i think i even asked if he wanted to go, but traveling took too
much out of him. he was really psyched for me tho, and knew i loved the ig
so it would be awesome to see them in nh.
i hugged him as i was dropped off home. it was the last time i ever saw him
alive.

i got tickets and it was a secret cuz my folks were really upset with my
spending habits. i saw a play in portland and talked to him on a friday
after the play for about 45 min.

he died four days later. i got a phone message after one of my shifts
working at a public computer cluster as a consultant.


aaarrrrgggghhhh  this is getting too long, but in installment number two you
will hear the true igc about this post, if you are new, this post will be an
intro to just how cool the ig can be
mike r.

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subject:      re: nigc  the "d" button is on the left side of the keyboard...

hey fellow fans!

well, gia, i hit the "d" key about 20 times while reading your post, and
nothing happened.  it's a very nice key, though - thanks for pointing it out
to me.

so, anyway, i guess i would like to add a little clarification to my comment
before shutting up.  since i inspired such grand argument, i feel it is only
fair.

i just want to be clear that personal posts to me are not the same as
personal ramblings.  when a person is relating a song to an experience in
their life (which i have done to some extent on this list), that makes sense
to me.  when a person checks in daily to let us know how their day is going,
i find that excessive.  and i will admit that i also get a little
uncomfortable when people reveal as much about their lives as they tend to
do here, but that is just me.  i would like to remind everyone, however,
that this list is extremely public.  some of you feel that you are writing
to a close group of friends, and that's really not true.  a little
self-restraint couldn't hurt.

as far as 'crap' goes, yeah, there is some stuff posted here that really
doesn't belong.  and i don't think that i am in the minority in feeling this
way.  for one thing, anything that has been forwarded more than once or
twice pretty much doesn't belong on this - it is a terrible waste of
resources.  the good and bad thing about the internet is that it is a very
open network.  people have to use their own judgement to decide what is
appropriate to post to discussion groups such as this.  and while i fully
realize that my opinion is just my own and i can't really say what is
appropriate for others, i think sometimes it helps to have a grumpy
old-timer reminding people once in a while that they are using a forum with
several hundred (at least!) other people and maybe they should think before
they post to it.

and a couple of responses to round this up:

to kim fischer (and anyone else who is considering not posting):  i think it
is very wrong for you to choose not to post at all.  that certainly was not
the purpose of my complaint - i would never suggest censoring anyone.

to john kobza:  fat chance i'll be unsubscribing.  i've been on this list
(in its various forms) a lot longer than you, and i intend to stay.  i am as
big a fan as anyone here, and i depend on the information and good igc.  i
have also met some really cool people on this list, and have made good
friends.  (btw, why the hell did you post a message to hundreds of people if
you feel you might be wrong? just curious.)

well, i will leave you all alone for now.  i will be gone for a week, so if
i don't respond to you it's because i don't care.  :)

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"wasn't it you who said love was useless?
hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
- peter stuart (dog's eye view)

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 17:29:47 -0800
reply-to:     "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: i know, i know...enough already! and ghost

susan said:
>sorry i rambled...thanks for listening. even those of you who are annoyed,
>it's nice to know i could share this. anyone else have the "i just can't
>listen to that particular ig song" experience? any of the ig's songs?

i will assume, for obvious reasons, that you speak of me.  i actually had no
problem personally with this post.  it related to an ig song.  it explained
a personal reaction to the song.  it wasn't very long, and it didn't reveal
anything that is really meant for a close personal friend.  on the whole, i
would have to give it a 7 out of 10.  :)

(i am just kidding about the rating part, for the humor impaired.)

and this was, of course all imho.  and i am sure i am not wrong about that.

the new list pariah,
:dwayne

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"wasn't it you who said love was useless?
hey, was it you who said love was like driving south?
well, we start out thirsty and wind up cottonmouth"
- peter stuart (dog's eye view)

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 19:47:21 -0700
reply-to:     chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
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from:         chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
subject:      re: ghost/list
x-to:         jody k baker <bakerjo@caedm.et.byu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <11eaf3a2c3c@caedm.et.byu.edu>

hi everyone.  delurking, had a busy few weeks and a whizbang tour of the
midwest!

although ghost isn't one of my favorite songs, i have much connection to
it.  perhaps this is why it isn't one of my favorite songs.  hmmm.  four
years ago i lost the first love of my life to the mormon church.  she
left me to go on a mission.  (funny this should come up again during
discussion of gays in utah . . .)  she left me on jan 23 and sunday will
be my five year anniversary for leaving the mormon church.  after she
left i just couldn't deal with the pain of being female, mormon and
queer.  i've posted this before, back on hey jesus and i dowanna know
day, so my appologies to all of you who are *sick* of hearing the sad sad
story of my mormon love life.  but anyway, the point i'm trying to make
is that every march i become haunted again by this experience.  "regular
like seasons."  i can smell old pain in the air, the newness of leaves,
the cold wind off the wasatch peaks.  although i don't really cry
anymore, i'll never get over her.  she and the experience of loving and
losing her, and losing my religion along with it, stays with me forever,
haunting me every march.  funny that this should all meet up at the same
time on the list--my march psychosis, ghost and gays in utah . . .
cosmic?

> jody in utah where gay hs students can't have a club because that
> would threaten the american way.
>
hi, jody, from another one here in utah-god aren't we wierd here?

peace and bubbles to all,
chris ii

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 23:39:59 -0500
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      really personal stuff/ igc

you know........
if amy and emily felt that one shouldn't express
anything too personal in front of any but their closest
friends...well....geee....we wouldn't have any indigo girls
albums would we ? certainly no songs like "ghost".
in fact......there wouldn't be much art in the world at all.....
not a pretty picture is it ?
:) claire
(i know i said that i wouldn't post anything for 3 days....
but i lied...ha ha !...thats right ! i'm a big fat liar !!!!
hahahahahahaha!!!!!)

"rich relations give
crusts of bread and such
you can help yourself
but don't take too much
papa may have
and mama may have
but god bless the child
thats got his own "
                            billie holiday

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date:         fri, 29 mar 1996 15:23:53 +0000
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
subject:      joni mitchell

whilst there seems to be a bit of jm traffic here at the mo.

how close to the origional is e's river ? all of their other covers have
been open to the ig interpretation. but then joni and ig do similar music
so ... ??

just wunderin !!
jules

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
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subject:      "new list pariah"

"new list pariah"???
yikes, y'all... i hate that dwayne referred to himself as this in his last
post ...
um... i feel responsible because i reacted in a paranoid way to his comments
about "crap" and personal ramblings".  see... i figured he was someone who
was better aquainted with the list + that he was reminding ones like myself
who tend to post silly bits every now + again about the "rules" (... same as
the "they" as in "they say". i'm certain, as a paranoid, that "the rules"
exist and everyone but me knows them.... ) so i felt a bit stung and decided
to tuck in and not post for a while so as not to offend the more sensible of
you all ( always was the class clown... )
actually, i guess all the poor guy was doing was being supportive of the
listie who posted the honor the earth message. he just chose not quite the
right words...
anyhow... i'm just really sorry for any ruffled feathers on dwayne's part...
and definately sorry that this all took away from the very important message
that he was supporting.  hope this wasn't too personal : - ) ( is my big
brother watching? )
peace + pleasent posting, all... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
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subject:      is today ghost day ?

if it is -

        what can we say about the finest piece of emotional song writing
? the 1200c version ( i'm listening now spooky ) is just so perfect. i
remember a lot of people slow dancing, hugging or staring at e in awe
when this was played live. another notch on the e - guitar goddess post
here me thinks !

jules

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reply-to:     michael bunch <mrbcom@earthlink.net>
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from:         michael bunch <mrbcom@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: 1200 curfews tourdates & chickenman

at 05:01 pm 3/29/96 -0500, michael reynolds wrote:

>the sony list of shows is good, but i noticed a few errors on their dates
>and omissions, as if it were from some sort of bootleg list or something,


does anyone remember last year when i believe russel carter wrote to the
list asking for early tourdates as well as versions of "chickenman" and gave
a phone number to call or something?

i also seem to remember someone from the list mentioning they sent
some tapes and were not able to get them back.

does anyone recall what the story on that one was?

michael

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subject:      re: song copyrights
x-to:         fakeoj@aol.com

>i was thinking today. emily and amy are separate songwriters. why don't they
>copyright their songs, ummmm, separately?

umm...they do...don't they??
i mean, that's why all the songs have only one of amy
and emily's name by them... :):)

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from:         gracia barr <afn05104@afn.org>
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 25 mar 1996 to 26 mar 1996 - special
              issue
in-reply-to:  <199603261807.naa08578@netspace.org>

my hairdresser and i were talking about music, and she told me about a
group she'd seen on good morning america the friday before st. patrick's
day. she didn't get the name. described it as contemporary irish folk
music, great harmonies, and the group had about 5 singers, men and women.
they said on the show that the group was becoming very popular.  anybody
know who this could have been? thanks ahead of time. gracia

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reply-to:     vera charles <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         vera charles <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      attn: jon miner (ig shirts)

i'm really sorry to take up space, but i wanted to inquire about the list
t-shirts again......  i have your address and i know how much i need to
pay (i think!) and i was just wondering when the whole t-shirt thing is
going to start...
thanks,
mandy

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from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: irish folk music query ( nigc )

on saturday, march 30th, gracia wrote:
> contemporary irish folk
>music, great harmonies, and the group had about 5 singers, men and women.
>they said on the show that the group was becoming very popular.  anybody
>know who this could have been?
hey gracia... it almost sounds like you're describing the rankin family....
they're a very nice sounding group from out in eastern canada... irish...
they've absolutely wonderful harmony + are gaining popularity in leaps +
bounds here. ( well... even if it's not the right group, you should check em
out... they're good. )
peace + harmony... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca
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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      re: ghost
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.92.960329151417.23099c-100000@planetx.bloomu.edu>

:) ghost is one of my favorite songs as well! i really didn't think much about
it one way or the other until one day quite recently (november) sitting on the
bus bench in the cool weather, listening to my discman...
it was one of those quiet, peaceful days where it's so nice outside that i
didn't mind waiting for the bus at all... i guess because it was so still & so
quiet the sound of emily's voice seemed more crystal clear than ever & i just
fell so deeply in love with the song that each time i hear it i think of that
nice cool, quiet day on the bus bench.
rick
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       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
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       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)
x-to:         iqueadge@aol.com, alanajbt@netspace.net.au, maegwin15@aol.com,
              waynebows@pacificnet.net

sorry for the list space, but i know that somebody out there will want to speak
out against this as much as all the people below....if not, please forward it to
someone who does. :)
rick

<---- begin forwarded message ---->
date: fri, 29 mar 1996 18:28:32 -0500 (est)
from: "joanna k. fraser" <jkf0@pooch1.allencol.edu>
to: cbec <brianne216@aol.com>, carolynjc@aol.com, djlindy@aol.com,
erinmbcd@voyager.net, gambja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu, grngbles@aol.com,
jjacobs@asij.ac.jp, jmurphy@wheat.mnsfld.edu, jockey20@aol.com, livvy24@aol.com,
lvirta@d.umn.edu, rbsayre@interserv.com, rdamara1@aol.com, seadrifter@aol.com,
sunny78@aol.com, susansf@aol.com, tizlockman@aol.com
subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)

we recently proved that if a newsgroup has enough supporters, it will be
created - regardless of content.  please read this guys, and act fast -
its frightening.   joanna

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date: fri, 29 mar 1996 16:07:15 -0500 (est)
from: kyle b. luken <kbl0@pooch1.allencol.edu>
to: lana gagliano <lg069341@sju.edu>
cc: sarah wolff <saw0@pooch1.allencol.edu>, renee vieira <rvieira@drew.edu>,
    dave tomko <dtomko@eden.rutgers.edu>,
    marla saracino <smtp@vm.marist.edu>, diana oldja <didi777@aol.com>,
    stacy ann moramarco <sam10@acpub.duke.edu>,
    serenella migliore <seremigl@eden.rutgers.edu>,
    tricia mckenna <tmckenna@strauss.udel.edu>,
    kelli eynon <kae0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    erin hurley <ech2@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    tara herweg <tlh0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    heather hall <hah0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    jennifer gerardo <gerardoj1@jaguar.uofs.edu>,
    "joanna k. fraser" <jkf0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    chris dolan <cdolan@itsmail1.hamilton.edu>,
    beth r dibiase <bdibia01@student.ucis.vill.edu>,
    elizabeth carfrey <eec0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    "tara b. cannata" <s0207171@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>,
    jake campbell <jc01@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    lynn bucher <lab1@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    lindsay barnes <lrb0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    "joseph v. vaccarino" <jvvaccar@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)

guys,
        i know i never take anything seriously but this i do, so please
take it seriously and do it.  and then send it to as many people as you
can! (fast!)
thanx
kyle~

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: mon, 25 mar 1996 11:23:49 -0500 (est)
from: molly m. liegel <mml0@pooch1.allencol.edu>
to: shana schaffer <sschaffe@indiana.edu>,
    mike wamser <msw0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    jennifer walsh <jew0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    kelly minner <kam3@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    julia micik <jam0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    kyle luker <kbl0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    kerry lambert <kal2@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    erin hurley <ech2@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    laura gimpel <lcg7793@is2.nyu.edu>,
    mark elshami <marke@astro.ocis.temple.edu>,
    marrissa dyer <mad0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    liz dailey <ekd0@pooch1.allencol.edu>,
    mark baranowski <mjb1@pooch1.allencol.edu>
subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)

hello everybody,
        i got this message from a friend in high school and i found it to
be very disturbing and very important.  please take the time to read it
and follow the instructions.  you can really help out.
                                                love,
                                                        molly meg

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: fri, 22 mar 1996 22:16:01 -0500 (est)
from: nina a. allen <naa4s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>
to: rob roberts <robervl4@wfu.edu>,
    aima ahonkhai <ahonkhai@husc.harvard.edu>,
    allison taylor <alt5c@virginia.edu>, beth riley <mer7c@virginia.edu>,
    rock branch <rlb7s@virginia.edu>,
    isaac bright <ibright@pepvax.pepperdine.edu>,
    jason solarek <solarjm4@wfu.edu>,
    jennifer allen <aallen@mailbox.syr.edu>,
    jeremy fiebert <jfiebert@husc.harvard.edu>,
    jessica bantom <jrb2g@virginia.edu>, jodie petway <jmp4g@virginia.edu>,
    jen krupa <jk6383@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu>,
    melissa murfin <mxm98@uno.cc.genes>,
    michael zumpino <mlzumpin@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>,
    molly liegel <mml0@pooch1.allencol.edu>, sang lee <shl112@psu.edu>,
    sarah goodyear <srg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>,
    vanessa liguori <vliguori@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)

hey guys, this isn't a chain letter, and it's not that crazy
aids virus, but it's a good cause. it only takes a minute. love
you all! nina p.s. don't try to reply to this message if you
want to write me, it'll go to my friend nicole. i'm at
naa4s@virginia.edu, if any of you feel so inclined.
> from root fri mar 22 22:09:34 1996
> from: nina
> message-id: <199603230309.waa132707@avery.med.virginia.edu>
> subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)
> to: naa4s@virginia.edu
> date: fri, 22 mar 1996 22:09:18 -0500 (est)
> x-mailer: elm [version 2.4 pl24]
> mime-version: 1.0
> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
>
> according to stephanie colette love:
> >from daemon wed mar 20 17:17:35 1996
> resent-from: karen rae robinson <krr3p@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
> resent-date: wed, 20 mar 96 17:16:00 est
> x-mailer: uva pcmail 1.9.0
> resent-to: s0krrobi@hibbs.vcu.edu, s0lcrobi@cabell.vcu.edu, ser46@aol.com,
>         rmw3y@virginia.edu, csg3j@virginia.edu, lam4r@virginia.edu,
>         anya@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu, tjd3d@virginia.edu, ttj3v@virginia.edu,
>         nth2t@virginia.edu, clh5e@virginia.edu, cpoindex@princeton.edu,
>         tse5j@virginia.edu, moore1cl@jmu.edu
> resent-message-id: <199603201623.laa12457@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
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> resent-date: wed, 20 mar 96 11:23:37 est
> x-mailer: uva pcmail 1.9.0
> resent-to: krr3p@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
> from: stephanie colette love <scl5d@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>
> message-id: <199603200147.uaa92162@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>
> subject: fwd: neo-nazis on the internet (fwd)
> to: anthony <alf92@aol.com>, jamil bennett <jmb6n@virginia.edu>,
>         alvin blanco <arb6b@virginia.edu>, juan colon <jgc4a@virginia.edu>,
>         sarah cortese <cortessa@lanmail.shu.edu>,
>         jovita brantley <jb5f@virginia.edu>
> date: tue, 19 mar 1996 20:47:02 -0500 (est)
> cc: tanisha davis <tnd4q@virginia.edu>, renuka derolia <rd6w@virginia.edu>,
>         trish harper <tph8z@virginia.edu>,
>         benjamin jantzen <bcj106@email.psu.edu>,
>         benjamin jantzen <bjant59131@aol.com>,
>         michelle love <lovem@river.it.gvsu.edu>,
>         yolanda marshall <ydm4b@virginia.edu>, sara matys
<sem2k@virginia.edu>,
>         jamil mcneal <jkm5h@virginia.edu>, mike <madiq@aol.com>,
>         sarah nickel <scn2x@virginia.edu>,
>         angela qazi <aaq7j@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>,
>         stephen riley <sir3e@virginia.edu>, njeri semaj <nns7v@virginia.edu>,
>         rebecca smith <rls6a@virginia.edu>,
>         ray smythe <rs7752@cnsvax.albany.edu>,
>         reena solanki <rs2h@virginia.edu>,
>         "john st. clair" <jbs2q@virginia.edu>,
>         cabral thornton <ctt5q@virginia.edu>,
>         candace womsang <clw4y@virginia.edu>, bryant young <by2z@virginia.edu>
> x-mailer: elm [version 2.4 pl24]
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> >i know that you guys hate forwarded messages, but this one is
> kind of important.
> >
> >
> > ----- begin included message -----
> >
> > subject: neo-nazis on the internet
> > date: tue, 12 mar 96 16:18:00 est
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> >
> > to all those who abhor racism and hate:
> >
> > this is an important message which requires your urgent attention.  this
> > is not a hoax.  please take it entirely seriously.
> >
> > a group of neo-nazis are trying to form a newsgroup on usenet called
> > rec.music.white-power, so that they can get their message of hate out to
> > young people using the internet.  newsgroups are public discussion areas
> > on the internet and their formation requires enough support from the
> > internet community.
> >
> > each and every one of you has one vote when it comes to creating a
> > new usenet group. i hope you will vote no and thereby tell these nazis you
> > don't want their stuff on the net. below is the procedure, please repost
> > my plea and get the no vote out.   this is my personal opinion.  if you
> > want to see the official call for votes, you can read in news.group or ask
> > me for a copy of the notice calling for votes.
> >
> > do _not_ vote twice - that would constitute voting fraud.
> >
> > how to vote:
> >
> > send e-mail (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
> >
> >     music-vote@sub-rosa.com
> >
> > this is an impartial, third-party vote taker.
> >
> > do not reply to this message, if you are trying to vote.  please do not
> > assume that just replying to this message will work. check the address
> > before you mail your vote.  your mail message should contain only one
> > statement:
> >
> > i vote no on rec.music.white-power
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > i really hope you vote no!
> >
> > vote counting is automated.  failure to follow these directions may
> > mean that your vote does not get counted.  if you do not receive an
> > acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
> > about the problem.  it's your responsibility to make sure your vote
> > is registered correctly.
> >
> > here's what canada's george burdi, of the neo-nazi heritage front, had to
> > say about this vote, on february 21, on his resistance mailing list:
> >
> >   "there is a call for votes
> >   coming on rec.music.white-power in the next week
> >   or so, and you will be notified in a special issue of
> >   rren exactly what to do.  follow the
> >   instructions to the letter.  let me be
> >   perfectly blunt and state that we have more than
> >   enough "net-nazis" to win this thing hands-down.
> >   but every one of you must vote yes!  and just
> >   voting yes means nothing unless you do it properly.
> >   so you have been forewarned.  the instructions
> >   are coming to your email box soon, and they
> >   are not complicated.  just follow them as told,
> >   and we will have a wp music newsgroup finally!"
> >
> > if mr. burdi's confidence disturbs you, please give this letter the
> > _widest_ possible distribution, and help us deliver the largest no vote in
> > the history of usenet.
> >
> > if you would like more detailed information on why you should vote no,
> > check out http://nizkor.almanac.bc.ca - although it should be noted that
> > the nizkor project has no connection to this personal plea.
> >
> > thank you for reading this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  +======================================
> >  | david j segall  a.k.a.  scuttle
> >  | johannesburg, gauteng, south africa
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> >  if the odds are a million to one,
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       ********************************************
       ** i know what yer thinkin'. did he fire  **
       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
       ********************************************

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 14:43:40 -0800
reply-to:     rbsayre@interserv.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      re: i know, i know...enough already! and ghost
x-to:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
in-reply-to:  <009a0117.b204ec45.240@cc.colorado.edu>

on fri, 29 mar 1996, susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu> wrote:
**snipped a bit**
>it's nice to know i could share this. anyone else have the "i just can't
>listen to that particular ig song" experience? any of the ig's songs?

yes!!! "left me a fool".... 80% of the time i have to forward past that one. i
love the song, don't get me wrong, but it's very difficult to listen to...

;) rick

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 14:43:29 -0800
reply-to:     rbsayre@interserv.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      re: honor the earth  (personal rambling stuff- watch out!! ;)
x-to:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
in-reply-to:  <0ae26537011c0e00@crai.com>

i totally agree with what harry said. i've come to see the list as a sort of
family & it always really gets to me how much emily & amy's music has touched us
all so deeply & so personally...isn't that what music ought to do?
i really enjoy reading about everyone -how they react to certain songs or
whatever...
*shrug* just my opinions...
rick...
34 days..............................................
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       ** i know what yer thinkin'. did he fire  **
       ** six shots or only five? frankly in all **
       ** the confusion, i kinda lost track my-  **
       ** self. but you gotta ask yourself one   **
       ** question: do i feel lucky?             **
       **      well do ya punk?                  **
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date:         tue, 24 may 1994 04:26:20 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: ghost

ghost is beautiful, isn't it? everytime i hear it i get shivers... what a
gift e has for lyrics and music... if i had half that talent....
man... i must hold on to old hurt for a long time. i've been tempted to tape
just this song and mail it to someone from my past. can you say obsessive
boys and girls?.... i'll bet you can. :- )
peace + a keyboard with special smiley thingys.... kim.
<kim fischer>
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
************************************

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 18:47:07 -0500
reply-to:     indigonut@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         indigonut@aol.com
subject:      ghost

hi all-
i haven't really been in a posting mood lately, but i felt i had to say
something about ghost on such a perfect day :)  whenever i listen to ghost, i
always think of my girlfriend who is far away at college.  we are still
happily together, but it just reminds me of the sadness i sometimes feel when
we are apart.   btw,   a few weeks ago,  erika wrote from slc about nat.
womens day, and this meeting thing she had attended.  and she spoke of this
woman singing "with a beautifully soft but powerful voice, kind of like a mix
between amy and emily."   well, that is my girlfriend!!!  i almost fell out
of my chair when  i read that.  aren't coincidences amazing?:):):)

in awe,
jenny


"you gotta live light enough to see the humor, and long enough to see some
change"     ani difranco

"...i'm still not mincing words but... you know, mincing makes mush, and mush
is baby food, and we're not babies anymore.  we know too much."      ani
difranco

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 19:02:43 est
reply-to:     joe <jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joe <jhamilto@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu>
subject:      indigo girls rd signs are in!

after what seems like an eternity, the signs i have been rambling about are in.
that bad news is i couldn't get as many as i thought. so for now, i am offering
them to the people that wrote me before. more bad news, i erased my mail file
so i don't know exactly who wrote =( if you did write, please write again and
remind me that you wrote before. if you haven't written me yet, please do as
i    expect to be getting more in the future. :) anyway, i guess i should give
an official description.--

these are signs, along the same lines as old time road signs. they are long
and skinny..approximately three feet or so long and about six inches high.
they are made out of a nice metal, which is black and they say indigo girls rd
on them in blue letters. the letter are raised up a bit from the sign, which
gives it a nice texture. they are a very cool collectible for the person who
has everything :) good quality and make great decorations. the price is $30
which includes the shipping that will prolly be about 4 or 5 bucks. there are
small holes in them so you can hang them up. :)
so that's what they are. i love them. he he ..if you have any questions drop
me a line - jhamilto@miamiu.muohio.edu . i'm sorry for losing the previous
responses, but once i hear from you again, i'll remember :)
oh yeah, if you are going to be at the jazz fest, i am saving a few to take
with me there, so you can wait and pick one up then, so, the ppl that wrote
before have first priority, after that it's first come first serve. :)
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 19:27:52 -0500
reply-to:     cojehali@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cojehali@aol.com
subject:      re: really personal stuff/ igc

in a message dated 96-03-29 23:42:01 est, you write:

>if amy and emily felt that one shouldn't express
>anything too personal in front of any but their closest
>friends...well....geee....we wouldn't have any indigo girls
>albums would we ? certainly no songs like "ghost".

bravo!!  my feelings exactly!  what a perfect analogy!  i've been touched
very deeply (as we all have) by the songs that amy & emily write, but i have
to say that many of the personal posts i've read here have touched my heart
as well.  i've laughed, i've cried, and i've learned a lot from what the
people on this list have to say......  so please don't take that personal
element away......it's what makes this list such a special place to be! :)

-connie

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 19:28:03 -0500
reply-to:     cojehali@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cojehali@aol.com
subject:      re: contemporary irish group? (nigc)

in a message dated 96-03-30 11:58:15 est, you write:

>my hairdresser and i were talking about music, and she told me about a
>group she'd seen on good morning america the friday before st. patrick's
>day. she didn't get the name. described it as contemporary irish folk
>music, great harmonies, and the group had about 5 singers, men and women.
>they said on the show that the group was becoming very popular.  anybody
>know who this could have been? thanks ahead of time. gracia

my guess is that this might be the corrs.  they are a 4-piece band; 3 sisters
and 1 brother, from ireland.   they sound rather like a celtic version of
wilson phillips, imho.  nice harmonies. they do contemporary pop music,
although their cd contains a lot of irish folk tunes as well.  they currently
have a hit single called "runaway" from the cd "forgiven...not forgotten",
and are planning a summer tour of the us.  btw, the lead singer, andrea,
recently got a bit part in the movie "evita".  hope that helps! :)

-connie

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 21:42:38 -0500
reply-to:     gracia barr <afn05104@afn.org>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gracia barr <afn05104@afn.org>
subject:      re: net nazis
in-reply-to:  <199603302244.raa02415@netspace.org>

i believe the vote has already been taken...but, it couldn't hurt to make
your feelings known about this sort of thing anyway.
gracia

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date:         tue, 24 may 1994 08:06:21 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kim fischer <rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca>
subject:      re: net nazis (nigc)

>i believe the vote has already been taken...but, it couldn't hurt to make
>your feelings known about this sort of thing anyway.
>gracia
>
what's this about.... did i miss something? i've certainly seen no post...
peace...kim
<kim fischer>
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every five years or so i look back on my life
and have a good laugh.
- e. saliers
************************************

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 22:55:29 -0500
reply-to:     jriley@smith.smith.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jriley@smith.smith.edu
subject:      catie curtis (&a.ray)

hi!

        catie curtis just played here at smith, and she is phenomenal!!!
a really beautiful voice, excellent guitar playing, and songs that can give
one an emotional punch in the stomach.  also, she mentioned that at a gig
in texas last week she looked over to dee this woman kinda swaying to the
music, and it was amy ray of the ig, and she almostfell over, but did manage
to not forget the words.  so check her out.  hey, if amy thinks she's cool, its
worth a shot, right?!

peace, love, and vast quantities of coffee,
jennie

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 23:35:07 -0500
reply-to:     poohgrl816@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         poohgrl816@aol.com
subject:      re: net nazis (nigc)
x-to:         rcn@coc.powell-river.bc.ca

me neither, what's up with the nazis???

pooh

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date:         sun, 31 mar 1996 01:07:51 -0500
reply-to:     michael valenta <zzvalentam@winthrop.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         michael valenta <zzvalentam@winthrop.edu>
subject:      re: sony website for past show dates

someone posted something about this sony website that lists the dates of
past ig shows.  couldn't remember who posted it, but could someone please
share the www address.

thanks,
michael

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date:         sat, 30 mar 1996 23:52:17 -0800
reply-to:     "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "l. andrade" <andrade@az.com>
subject:      sony url:

since a few people have asked, the official sony website is:

http://www.music.sony.com/music/artistinfo/indigogirls.html

unfortunately you need a ppp/slip browser (it wont work with lynx, boo!)

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reply-to:     bonster@alaska.net
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from:         bonster@alaska.net
subject:      nigc carrie newcomer q's

is there anyone on the list who is familiar with carrie newcomer's music?
she's coming up here (to anchorage) and i'd like to know a bit about her
before i see her show.

thanks,
bon

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date:         sun, 31 mar 1996 09:04:52 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc carrie newcomer q's
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hi bon (and everyone),

i just saw carrie play in newport, ky.  i really enjoyed her show.  i went
into the show not knowing exactly what to expect other than she was folk and
i was pleasantly suprised.  she was very warm, had a wonderful rapport with
the audience and a round, whole voice.

her songs were about family, love (she was recently married and her husband
plays guitar), and her 13 year old daughter.  the crowd i saw it with was a
little bit older (i'm 24) and the average age was probably about 35.

it was a great light show and left you feeling good inside.  i would highly
recommend her.

alycia


>is there anyone on the list who is familiar with carrie newcomer's music?
>she's coming up here (to anchorage) and i'd like to know a bit about her
>before i see her show.
>
>thanks,
>bon
>
>
>
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date:         sun, 31 mar 1996 10:36:35 -0500
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subject:      nigc traveling to seattle....help

hello all, anyone on the list from seattle?  i am traveling to seattle on
business and i was hoping to have a good and kind soul tell me about how to
get to where i need to be, and what might be interesting to go see.  some
good clubs and music reccomends would be appreciated.  thanks

tangled up in blue


pooh

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reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc: barbra kessler cd release party (forward)
x-to:         "don a. smith" <dasmith@netspace.org>,
              julie rackliffe <rackliffe@tcm.org>

for those of you whom are not on bk's mailing list....

                                -- chris


> subject: barbara kessler cd release party
>
> march 28, 1996 (please post and pass along)
>
>
> on april 14, 1996 barbara kessler will perform with her band at mama kin's
> music hall to celebrate the release of "notion"  on eastern front records.
>  doors will open at 8 pm.  ticket price will be $10 at the door.  reserve
> tickets at any strawberries or by calling the mama kin's ticket office at
> 617/536/2100.  opener peter mulvey and band will perform at 9.  barbara will
> perform a two hour set starting at 10 pm.  come join in the patriot's
> day/marathon weekend excitement with barbara kessler's cd release
> celebration.  special guests will include producer jerry marotta on drums,
> marc schulman (of suzanne vega and patty larkin fame), jennifer kimball
> (formerly of the story).  there is a chance that tony levin may be there as
> well. here's the standard scoop:
>
> eastern front records releases "notion" by barbara kessler
>
> a lot can happen in one year!  that is an understatement when it comes to
> barbara kessler. the success of barbara's first album combined with a
> break-neck touring schedule garnered her the national academy of songwriters
> "female artist of the year", a boston music award for "debut acoustic album"
> (as well as nominations in three other categories) and the "new folk"
> songwriter award  at the kerrville folk festival.
>
> now on "notion" her debut studio album for eastern front records, barbara's
> talent for expressing intimate detail in a tough yet seductive way,
> establishes her firmly among the ranks of the truly great songwriters.  this
> is a record born out of boston's vital singer-songwriter scene and with jerry
> marotta (of peter gabriel fame) in the producer's chair, it blasts into new
> territory blending folk and rock with pop-alternative edges.
>
> kessler's "notion" is a mix of hauntingly beautiful acoustic music, edgy
> electric guitars and oddly industrial sounds.  the result is a collection of
> songs that "showcase kessler's flair for poignant detail and understatement,
> qualities that lend her tales of ordinary folks their extraordinary emotional
> weight" (vin scelsa wnew, ny)
>
> kessler is joined by bassist tony levin (peter gabriel), guitarists marc
> shulman (suzanne vega) and duke levine (mary chapin-carpenter) and vocalist
> jennifer kimball (formerly of the story).  this stellar line up illustrates
> just how far kessler has come in one short year.  while touring last year in
> support of her live disc "stranger to this land", she attracted the
> enthusiastic attention of jerry marotta who immediately signed on as
> producer.  her debut studio album "notion" is the record kessler fans have
> been waiting for!
>
> please join barbara for this momentus event. the music hall has the best
> sound system in boston by far. it's located across the street from fenway
> park and right down the road from the boston beer works (a great place to
> eat.) very easy to get to by 't' (take green line to kenmore square or the
> commuter rail to fenway.)
>
> we all are looking forward to a great night of music, friends, family and
> fun.
>
> see you there!!!
>
> folkwithjb@aol.com
> johnny brock management
>


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subject:      play it again sam lyrics...

on america on-line, someone asked for a good bootleg
copy of an old song by emily called "play it again sam."
emily said that she was embarrassed by the lyrics.  she
said she wrote the song about being a sophmore in college.
i have the world's worst bootleg copy of it on tape so i'm
not able to make a decent copy to send to anyone else.
if anyone out there has a good copy of this song please
let me know, i'd like a good copy of it. for those of you
who haven't heard it, here are the lyrics, you tell me if
emily should be embarrassed by these:

well we read best selling novels
so we can talk between the lines
and we often close our eyes
to hide the dollar signs
and we're suddenly pretentious
and we conform to the stream
born and bred believers of the american dream

and we drink our whiskey straight
though we do not like the taste
and we dress in obligations
with a top hat show of haste
and we hinder our reactions
as we measure what we say
until someone starts to cry
and the faces turn away

(chorus)
play it again sam, take it slow and easy
sing about the land of the brave and the home of the free
and there's a man who will treat better than you've gotten yet
he plays a happy song to help us forget
play it again sam

and though we donate to our charities
and deduct our future taxes
and we flock to bars for drinking
though no one ever quite relaxes
and we compromise our standards
if it means we'll get attention
and the things we need the most to say
are the things we never mention

(chorus)

i know god is temperamental
that's so hard to keep in mind
when you're searching for relief
and hell is all you find
and i know that i'm romantic
and i might seem a fool to say
but i know i'm gonna see the fewest joys
before my lucky day

(chorus)

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subject:      ig video ( and a minor bit of personal rambling :- )   )

hey all... quick question for anyone who can help me. i just recently bought
watershed. while i was at the store, ( knowing nothing about it but the
title... but, hey... it's ig... )  i ordered the other video,  latul.
( i'm told it'll be a while before it gets here, if i can get it )... anyway...
question: exactly what is latul?... is it a compilation of interviews +
music videos... or more like a concert? ( the latter, i hope... since i've
never had the enviable experience of attending an ig concert they were in
vancouver back a few years ago, but i hadn't discovered them yet... aggh - i
was still in my me and kd lang phase...) anyway - hope someone answers...
it's the weekend and there seems to be a lack of presence on the list today
... hope you're all enjoying good weather + good times.
( me, i'm stuck inside with a nasty head cold... can't even visit at the
hospital... tom btw is slowly + steadily progressing every day... go figure. )
( wonderful for his wife and kids to have this respite ) anyway... thanks
for your time + attention....
peace... kim.
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reply-to:     greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
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from:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      median cats are screaming at me!

i had to share this totally uncanny coincidental story that happened to me
last night.  while delivering pizza (if you laugh at this i can hear you
and will find you :)  ) late last night, a horrible thing happened.  i was
listening to an ig boot and chickenman was playing.  i love that song and
was singing along really loudly.  suddenly my car jolts as if i had jumped
a curb or something.  i pull over and look back to find the awful cadaver
of the cat that i had just run over.  i felt horrible and thought it was
too weird that chickenman, a song amy has referred to when talking about
all the road kill and dead prarie dogs, was playing right as i killed the
cat.  too weird.  the cat had no tags so i drove on knowing there was
nothing i could do.
        wacky story if it ended there, but noooo!  on my next delivery, the
boot continues playing in my car stereo.  i can't get the cat off of my
mind.  touch me fall comes on with the cortez the killer interlude.  amy
starts in with her whole i'm a killer sililoquy (sp?).  she's screaming i'm
a killerrrrr.  i'm a killerrrr.  i wanted to die on the spot.  thank you
for listening.

killer in chicago,

greg

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: play it again sam lyrics...

> for those of you who haven't heard it, here are the lyrics, you tell me if
>emily should be embarrassed
well... me, i write ( fiction stories and a bit of journalism ) ... and
some of the stuff i did way on back is embarrassing to me, simply because
i've grown + gotten better with practice.( i would hate to have anyone read
some of the stories i wrote back in my college days... *shiver* )  i am the
toughest of my critics and look at everything i do with an "i think i could
do much better... " sort of eye. i suspect that e feels the same way about
her songs. this one has all the elements of passionate, soap box climbing,
youth... great message, but probably the lyrics seem a touch hokey or naive
to her... considering the masterful job she does now of penning them....
of course... that's just mho...
well... peace, all... and contented moos....
<kim fischer>
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reply-to:     linda perrine <lap@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         linda perrine <lap@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      ig web site

i just found a new ig web site that i hadn't heard anyone mention on the
mailing list.  it has some really good articles archived of interviews and
articles written by a&e.
        checkout:  http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood

two really good articles were on the 1995.html page:
        6/21/95: interview with emily saliers
        95: article by amy ray, huh magazine
both were about their honor the earth tour and their opinions on native
american issues.  there are articles archived back to 1985, so it's like
being in a candy store!!!
   there is also a lyrics page, set lists, tablature/chords and more!!
well, now you know where i will be for the next hour or so!  enjoy!
linda

linda perrine
lap@ix.netcom.com

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date:         sun, 31 mar 1996 16:27:38 -0600
reply-to:     jennifer stevens <z956399@oats.farm.niu.edu>
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from:         jennifer stevens <z956399@oats.farm.niu.edu>
subject:      re: daemonrecs-info list
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199603300035.taa41627@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on fri, 29 mar 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

>
> no, not really, but i've found that i can't listen to any ig at all if my
> attention is required elsewhere. if someone's talking to me, or if i'm trying
> to work, i just can't listen cuz i can't bear to not give ig my full
> attention. :)

i am in the same situation -- but also if i am listening to anything ig, i
can't leave the room until the song is over, and then i have to stop the
cd player before the next one starts ... you couldn't tear me away ...
jennn :)


>
> and a note about the daemonrecs-info list! i asked mellie price, and she had
> to manually remove me from the list and have me re-subscribe. we'll see if
> that works. so if you're having trouble with this list (i.e. you've subscribed
> and you aren't getting mail) you should email mellie at mellie@monsterbit.com
> this is only for people who have subscribed to the daemonrecs-info list and
> aren't receiving mail. if you want to subscribe to that list, you have to send
> a "subscribe daemonrecs-info" message to majordomo@monsterbit.com
> i'm saying this in the hopes that poor mellie doesn't get a rush of "oooh,
> subscribe me!" messages. :)
>
> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo
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reply-to:     lisa grandjean <lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu>
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from:         lisa grandjean <lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu>
organization: trinity college of vermont
subject:      re: nigc: barbra kessler cd release party (forward)
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>,
              cmbecker@space.mit.edu

barbra kessler is awesome!!! she played at my school trinity college
of vermont in november!!! i have the cd "stranger to this land" and
would recommend it to anyone!!!!!
    "notion" will be great too i'm sure!!
    lisa

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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      re: honor the earth  (personal rambling stuff- watch out!! ;)
in-reply-to:  <v01530502ad84ee732eb5@[207.7.32.135]>

:) hey everyone! just wanted to clear up a bit of confusion... i replied to the
whole personal rambling thread before reading the letter that dwayne sent out
yesterday & since i couldn't connect to send it, it got sent after i read the
letter!!
i was under the impression that the issue at hand was about the personal stories
we've connected to songs during the song of the day thread & that's where i was
coming from. i do understand what dwayne really seemed to be referring to...the
nigc personal stuff, although i do think that's alright to an extent as well.
*whew!* didn't mean to cause any rifts out there!! sorry if i ruffled any
feathers!
rick.............
(thanks deb!)
****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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date:         sun, 31 mar 1996 19:15:30 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: play it again sam lyrics...
x-to:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
in-reply-to:  <013.04844367.rucr57a@prodigy.com>

minor corrections to rodney's lyriccs:

> i know god is temperamental

i know god is up in heaven

> that's so hard to keep in mind
> when you're searching for relief
> and hell is all you find
> and i know that i'm romantic
> and i might seem a fool to say
> but i know i'm gonna see the fewest joys

but i know i am going to see a few hands joined

> before my lucky day

before my dying day.
>

i adore this song as well and would love to see it on cd someday,
in a clean-sounding version.  my few boots of it are not great either.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      car crash revisited

i know that someone recently posted several possible references to car
crashes in ig songs.  i also remember that someone had earlier verified that
emily and amy lost some friends in a car accident.

well, i just purchased _ellen james society_ "reluctantly we" and printed on
the insert are four tombstones with the names warren, gary, fletcher and jan.

coincidence?  connection?

alycia

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