lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-04a


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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 08:39:06 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: nigc

on 29 mar 96 at 17:29, dwayne d. jarrell wrote:

> when a person checks in daily to let us know how their day is going,
> i find that excessive.  and i will admit that i also get a little
> uncomfortable when people reveal as much about their lives as they tend to
> do here, but that is just me.  i would like to remind everyone, however,
> that this list is extremely public.  some of you feel that you are writing
> to a close group of friends, and that's really not true.  a little
> self-restraint couldn't hurt.

oh geez...is this what everyone thinks?  this is all a bit scarey
when i know that i log in to the list most days, sometimes just to
say hi and how are you, but other times to reflect very personally on
specific ig-song-related feelings/experiences etc...because it does
feel like i'm within in group of friends...just how public is this
list and how personal is one supposed to get.

i'm kind of in shock mixed with a little fear.

love helene

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 08:34:49 +0100
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
subject:      boots a request

all

        does anyone of the lovely ig family have a boot of the 11-17-94
show at the leeds town and country club, england ( i think this date is
right, certainly the right month and year !! ) i know a few who would
like a copy of this so it's over to you ....

cheers
jules

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 02:27:11 -0600
reply-to:     greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
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from:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      cat story and boots (not puss n'boots)

leave it to our clever family of list members to capitalize on a story and
amaze me all at once.  btw this is a total non-flame!  i just found it very
amusing.  in response to my kitty and listening to an ig boot at the same
time story i got several responses.  some were compassionate...some were
humorous...but the majority were requests for the boot.  truly amazing!
again--not a flame just an observation and a funny one at that.  so to all
that requested the boot i was listening to when i became a wanted
killer--sorry.  i am involved in several trades right now and have zero in
the time category to take more requests.  ask me again in about a month and
i'll see what i can do.  however i am taking donations for the loved ones
of one kitty m. cat....bedtime obviously.  g'nite

greg

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 08:31:18 -0500
reply-to:     d.perkin@access.texas.gov
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      amy soc

hi all,

i was wondering if anyone had the text to amy's stream of
consciousness (sp??) where she starts saying  i will not be
complacent. if you anyone does, i would appreciate it if you would
e-mail it to me.

thanks.

peace

dan perkins
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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 10:08:43 -0500
reply-to:     kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
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from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
subject:      re: galileo, was re: joni mitchell...adding ig
x-to:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sgi.3.91.960328125843.5617c-100000@indy1>

on thu, 28 mar 1996, wendell lee wrote:

> since it's galileo day, does anyone out there have in with the out
> crowd?  and if you do, have you noticed that the version of galileo on
> that is the same as the one on 1200 curfews?  the strange thing is that
> iwtoc doesn't have that snazzy intro about how galileo was pardoned.  i'm
> wondering if the igs cut and pasted cool intros with the best recordings,
> for 1200 curfews, not that it matters, but i did feel a little taken aback.

on 1200 curfews, some of the intros are from different shows than the
songs are from. the intro to galileo was from their fall '94 show in ann
arbor, mi while the performance was from the shepherd's bush show (same
as on the disney special).

k

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 16:03:57 +0100
reply-to:     julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
subject:      amy soc boot

does anyone have the i will not be complacent soc on boot please. a yes
from the european side of the water would be nice !!

cheers
jules

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 10:31:03 est
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      song of the day

hmmmm...

   since we've gone on to rop, i assume that the "song of the day"
list will be ignoring the live albums?  too bad, i was looking forward
to talking about 123 three times in two weeks. ;)

                                -- chris


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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 10:46:09 -0500
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         mtngrl6@aol.com
subject:      happy birthday!!!  (april 1, 1996)
x-cc:         ssheperson@ouknor.edu

happy birthday stacy!!!   "...i used to search for reservations and native
lands before i realized everywhere stand there have been tribal feet running
wild as fire some past life sister of my desire..."

ssheperson@uoknor.edu
"jonas & ezekiel"
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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 10:19:38 -0500
reply-to:     kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
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from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
subject:      re: nigc
x-to:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <2238a7625ce@sperrin.ulst.ac.uk>

on mon, 1 apr 1996, helene burningham wrote:

> > do here, but that is just me.  i would like to remind everyone, however,
> > that this list is extremely public.  some of you feel that you are writing
> > to a close group of friends, and that's really not true.  a little
> > self-restraint couldn't hurt.

> specific ig-song-related feelings/experiences etc...because it does
> feel like i'm within in group of friends...just how public is this
> list and how personal is one supposed to get.

is this a serious question? if so... this list is as public as the whole
wide world, or at least the whole wide world that has an email address.
anyone can join, hundreds have joined, though only a handful post
regularly. as far as how personal one should get - that's up to you. if
it's not something you'd feel comfortable announcing to a large
auditorium full of people you don't know, you might not want to do it
here either. but then again you might. *shrug*

k

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 09:46:43 -0600
reply-to:     tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      purple parrot
x-to:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
in-reply-to:  <vines.r0w7+hyhkla@dacs_dc_16.fdic.gov>

to everyone who sent me (aquarius branch) tapes for the purple parrot show...

my life has been extremely hectic over the last two weeks and so a lot of
things have fallen by the wayside. i do have all of your tapes and i
promise to get them in the mail by this weekend. i apologize for the
inconvienence.

peace, love, and light... jen

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:09:11 est
reply-to:     mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      actual ig car crash

car crash revisited

i know that someone recently posted several possible
references to car crashes in ig songs.  i also
remember that someone had earlier verified that
emily and amy lost some friends in a car accident.


in a promotional recording for swamp ophelia,
amy admitted that the day she recorded "touch
me fall," she got into a  car accident in nashville!!

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 09:18:34 mst
reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

hi all. i just got back from a weekend of skiing which was incredible!
as i read through my digest of the ig list, i read that posting about the
nazi music discussion list. okay (deep breath) here's my two cents on
that issue.

i think of myself as pretty damn liberal....but i am not 100% sure i want
to start censoring what goes on the net at all, as much as nazis make
me want to puke. i mean, yeah, they are disgusting, and vile, and hateful,
blah blah blah (everyone with half a brain knows that, imho) but i am
wholly and irrevocably against censoring what is on the net. that's the
same tactics used by conservatives like buchanan who say that anything
related to gay/lesbian/bisexual issues is "obscene" and muct be eradicate
from the net.

am i the lone voice on this? i see it as a huge slippery slope that can only
lead to one thing: a mentality of "big brother is watching" on the net.
yeeesh...the very thought gives me chills.

does anyone agree with me or am i totally off-base here? and do we really
agree that not allowing white supremacist news groups will eliminate
the problem of white supremacy in america? hmmmmm.....

susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:25:32 est
reply-to:     sparke61@maine.maine.edu
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from:         sharon parker <sparke61@maine.maine.edu>
subject:      net-nazis

i'm new to this list but i have to put in my opinion on this censorship
issues. while i hate anything remotely related to nazis i cannot condone
censorship in any manner. we can't go around stopping folks who don't
agree with us from stating their beliefs or having their own lists or
whatever. if everyone tried to eliminate those who don't agree with them,
none of us would be here!
                            sharon-next time i talk ig...

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date:         wed, 25 may 1994 21:29:11 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: nigc

here i am... checking in again on a regular ( daily ) basis... hope this
doesn't make anyone cranky...  :- )
i'm just wondering... what happens if only posts that have absolute igc and
nothing else are made?... you know - just info about upcoming concerts + cd
releases etc. would the posts be few + far between? much as i love getting
that info ( well, duh ) i absolutely ( franny ) love to read the other ig
related stuff too, and i love it that people check in + say "hi" on a
regular basis.
i'm pretty certain most of us list members in the "auditorium" that
kristina spoke of are routing for the speaker... we're all a pretty diverse
but non-judgemental bunch - given our taste in music. i guess, from what
i've been able to discern, the list is what its members make it. and yes,
it's potentially a world-wide forum, but dwayne's point being? ( not an
attack on him... he just mentioned it first ).... what is the fear here?...
who was it who wrote so well a couple of days back about a and e getting up
in front of huge crowds and singing about very personal things to all who
care to listen. their cds go world wide... no fear....
is it big brother????? my god... now i'm scared... paranoia rears it's ugly
head ( then ducks for cover )....
anyway... for you who didn't hit the delete key the moment you read my name
on the title bar... thanks for listening :- )
peace... kim.

<kim fischer>
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grannies... and i am a cat with a very long tail.
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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:52:30 est
reply-to:     "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <0395kchev@umbsky.cc.umb.edu>
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from:         "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <0395kchev@umbsky.cc.umb.edu>
subject:      re: net-nazis (nigc)

well you know, denying the net-nazis a newsgroup isn't *really* censorship.
the way usenet is structured, anyone who wants one can and does set up an
alt.* newsgroup, and i believe the nazis already have several of those.
however, the mainstream hierarchies (rec.*, comp.*, soc.*, etc.) are set up
in such a way that in order to start a new group, one must run a vote and
have the majority of voters vote yes on your idea. so, censorship isn't the
issue, the issue is whether "white-power" is of wide enough interest, and
relevant enough, to be a mainstream group.
kirsten

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date:         wed, 25 may 1994 21:38:28 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

on monday, april 1st/96 susan writes:
>does anyone agree with me or am i totally off-base here? and do we really
>agree that not allowing white supremacist news groups will eliminate
>the problem of white supremacy in america? hmmmmm.....

you are not alone in your sentiment.
peace - kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:52:18 -0500
reply-to:     karra l mcleroy <kmcleroy@umich.edu>
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from:         karra l mcleroy <kmcleroy@umich.edu>
subject:      galileo in ann arbor
in-reply-to:  <pine.sgi.3.91.960401100648.29188d-100000@emily.cgrg.ohio-state.edu>

does anyone have a boot of this show?  i was there (front row!) and i'd
love one.  thanks!

karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
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on mon, 1 apr 1996, kristina cizas wrote:

> on 1200 curfews, some of the intros are from different shows than the
> songs are from. the intro to galileo was from their fall '94 show in ann
> arbor, mi while the performance was from the shepherd's bush show (same
> as on the disney special).

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:52:38 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: play it again sam lyrics...

>and there's a man who will treat better than you've gotten yet

this is me being really anal here. it's "..a man who will _tip_ you better.."
just being a perfectionist. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 11:09:37 -0500
reply-to:     d.perkin@access.texas.gov
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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
organization: ecsd
subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

on  1 apr 96 at 9:18, susan marine wrote:

>
> i think of myself as pretty damn liberal....but i am not 100% sure i want
> to start censoring what goes on the net at all, as much as nazis make
> me want to puke.

susan,

i agree with you 110%. as reprehensible as nazism, white supremacy,
rush limbaugh, pat buchanan, newt gingrich, etc. are to me, i think
censorship of any person or group of persons viewpoints is dangerous.

my thinking is that we all have the right to express ourselves. i
know i hold viewpoints that many people would find offensive. for
example i support the fight for same sex marriages. i believe i must
be allowed to express that viewpoint and to fight for what i believe
in. by the same token the followers of white supremacists, et al.
also must be allowed to speak their minds, even if they disagree with
me, or want to label me unamerican or whatever.

the idea that the government or anyone can squash ideas by making it
illegal to send, post, express it on the internet, the www, on radio,
television, or in any other type of mass media is absurd. certainly
the u.s.s.r. tried to squash any talk of freedom, religion, free
elections and other concepts of human rights for years. they put
people in labor camps for expressing their beliefs. and yet these
very beliefs helped bring down the reign of communist control of the
u.s.s.r. and break up that union into smaller, supposedly freer,
countries.

another danger of censorship, imho, is this: if we (or the gov't)
start censoring things we find distasteful, such as neo nazi
propaganda, then these repugnant ideologies will only go underground,
become less visible and more insidous. the way i look at it is it's
like a cancer. it may be bad news, but we can look for treatments and
solutions only if we have knowledge of it's existence. it will only
spread, and perhaps become terminal if we remain unaware of it's
existence. like the song says "it isn't nice but it's reality". there
a little igc, sorta.

just my opinions.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
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we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
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                        -winona laduke

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 09:17:20 -0800
reply-to:     rbsayre@interserv.com
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from:         rbsayre@interserv.com
subject:      joking on april fool's day.....

cool, huh?
well, joking is probably one of my all time favorites! it's so neat! one day i
was listening to it on my discman & singing along a bit, when my
then-not-yet-best-friend ? started to sing along & i was totally taken by
surprise that she knew it!!
it's just the greatest song to jump around and sing along to!!
:)
rick

****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 12:18:40 est
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

>i think of myself as pretty damn liberal....but i am not 100% sure i want
>to start censoring what goes on the net at all, as much as nazis make
>me want to puke. i mean, yeah, they are disgusting, and vile, and hateful,
>blah blah blah (everyone with half a brain knows that, imho) but i am
>wholly and irrevocably against censoring what is on the net. that's the

>agree that not allowing white supremacist news groups will eliminate
>the problem of white supremacy in america? hmmmmm.....

actually, it might be a _good_ thing to allow them to speak their mind on the
net. by advertising their cause and their issues they will certainly recruit
some more hate-mongers, but mostly i think they will just reveal their beliefs
to the world be the viscious, hateful, small-minded, petty, uneducated,
ill-informed, waste of human brain cells that they are. i mean, suppose you
heard a second or third-hand account of some group of people that were for
"patriotism" and "family values" and "god/religion" and "giving america back
to the people" and things like that. and you thought to yourself, "hey, sounds
good to me." and then suppose you checked out their newsgroup and found out
they were a group of rediculous hate-mongers who were about denying the
holocaust and ridding "their country" of anyone who isn't a straight white
european christian. wouldn't you be glad you had the opportunity to see them
for what they really were? and wouldn't you point out to all your friends and
neighbors just exactly what they were about? it seems to me that net access is
a great opportunity for people like that to say loudly and clearly to the
_whole_world_ "hey look at me, i'm a completely brainless imbecile!!"

just bouncing around some more nigc...
folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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subject:      ghost

once, while listening to ghost, a friend of mine told
me that there is really a town on the banks of the
mississippi that is named "five steps down".
and i believed her :)
some folks say i'm pretty gullible.
claire
(who will say anything to anyone anytime...except
disgusting bodyfunction stuff :)

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subject:      if it's monday, i must be joking

you all should be quite pleased with the monumental
self-restraint that i showed last week by not sharing
the bloody details of my oral surgery :)
(shut up...she thinks she's being witty...)

joking ( on april one too...pretty good !)
perky song.... when i try to emulate ar's strumming pattern
i get cramps in my hand. this is one of those songs that...
(as i read es say in an interview..) 'you kind of think you
know what it's about, but you're not sure...' (not an exact quote)

"you kissed me like a soldier, heading for war i'm a dying man
and i don't know what for.." what ? what what what does
this mean? explain please, thankyou.

i"ll tell you what i think this song is about....i think...that kind of
close comraderie that folks find when they are running with a gang
of friends...tearing up the town...everyone feels that they are sooo
close, but it ends up being just a surface thang. it falls apart so
easily.

one thing i really like about this song, and ar in fact, is the way she
effortlessly changes genders in some of her songs...i think it has a
lot to do with breaking down the barriers that separate the sexes.
i read a sci fi book once by a guy named john varley and the
characters changed genders at will... i thought it was pretty
revolutionary..the humanity beneath the surface and all that.
rue paul said that everyone should put on a big 'ole wig and
high heels once in their life...i agree, and think it just might
cause world peace.
yours truly,
claire
"i'm not a normal girl...so bite me."
(maggie estep, late 20th century american poet.)

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subject:      re: nigc (posting personal stuff)

on  1 apr 96 at 10:19, kristina cizas wrote:

>. as far as how personal one should get - that's up to you. if
> it's not something you'd feel comfortable announcing to a large
> auditorium full of people you don't know, you might not want to do it
> here either. but then again you might. *shrug*

kristina,

for me this is a kind of a paradoxical situation. on the one hand i
am generally fairly reserved in what i will share with my family and
persons i am acquinted with. on the other hand i feel pretty
comfortable about sharing personal aspects of myself with the people
on this list, who are afterall more or less strangers.. i think the reasons for
this are that: 1) i believe that most people on this list are likely to be sensitive
to the issues i have experessed previously (and will likely do so again),
and two, i don't interface with the people on this list on a daily basis, so i am
less worried if someone on the list reacts in a negative or judgemental way to
something personal that i may post (although all of the responses i
have received to my posts have been terrifically supportive and
understanding).


peace

dan perkins
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capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
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subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)
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          susan- no you're not alone.  needless to say, i really don't
          agree with the whole white supremacy bullshit, but we can't
          censor them and expect to retain our own freedom.

          i don't know who said it...i think some one is using this as
          a signature file but,

          "free speech means that i have to let idiots speak their
          minds."

          towanda

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subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

let me elaborate on my point. according to the time-honored rules of usenet
*anyone* can have their own newsgroup -- as long as it's an alt* group. that
way, any site who does or does not wish to devote disk space to alt.white-power,alt.sex.bestiality.barney, or, for that matter, alt.music.indigo-girls can
choose whether or not to do so. however, the mainstream hierarchies have
traditionally been reserved for those groups that have undergone the voting
process and are thus of vaguely general interest. this creates a standard
set of newsgroups which is carried by every site. remember, the net.nazis want
to create their group under rec.music. white power has nothing to do with
music; it would be no more appropriate to create a group called rec.music.white-
power than it would be to create a group called rec.music.guinea-pig or rec.
music.skiing. the issue is not politics; the issue is 1) whether white-power
should be properly classified under "music", and 2) whether white-power is of
broad enough interest that every site in the world should be morally obligated
to carry its newsgroup (which is the case with rec* groups). i hate censorship.
you want to fight censorship? go fight the communications decency act. but
for heavens' sake, do your homework before you cry out about this
particular issue.
kirsten

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subject:      my very first post...

hello list!
my name is robin and this is, as the title suggests, my very first post...so
bare with me!
first of all, let me say that i am quite impressed with all the "ramblings"
that appear on this list... this seems like a pretty intelligent group of
people and i for one am happy to be among you!
second of all, a question for the pros!   i recently purchased a collector's
edition cd of "indigo girls", recorded from the original masters on a 24k
gold disc with the original cover art on the disc itself.  is this worth the
$30 i gave to the good folks at blockbuster music?  (my girlfriend was quite
annoyed that i spent $30 on a cd that i already have!!)
thirdly, i do have a most wonderful ig experience to share with you all, but
i will save it for another time!
love,peace,and happiness!
~~robin
(still thinking of a spiffy quote to close with!)

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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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subject:      introductions???

the topic of 'how public is this list' brought an idea to my congested
head.   of course this list is very public.  we are nothing more than
intimate strangers.  so, to perhaps cure this - if only a little - is to
post introductions of ourselves on the list.  many of us post daily and we
all know each other in the ig sense, but we could become closer if we knew
what we do for a living, if we were single, married, attached to a so, our
backgrounds, other groups we like, etc.   i have grown attached to many of
you out there in cyber space, and do feel some sort of camaraderie and
closeness to you all  ( i barely read the newsgroup anymore...).

so how 'bout it?  are we interested?

moo.    ******************  the concert is a month away!!
******************
- jen hall

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subject:      nazis

susan
yo
you are not alone
yo

;)

victoria

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subject:      i'll bite...an intro

     i'm new to this list, this is my second post today and so i thought
i'd just say hi and, in response to a request for intros start off.
i go to college, listen to ig religiously and play the guitar. i used
to work on windjammers(schooners=big big sailboats) and one of my jobs-
besides cooking-was entertaining the upper middle class 60+ passengers
who came to cruise for a week with us. i used to play a set of ig songs
and they always loved it! none of the older folks had ever heard any
of this stuff and were immedeatly taken. one woman even bought the
self-titled cd after the trip was over.
    if i goof up my post, say something that's verboten or somehow put
my foot in my mouth please point it out, but be patient! i've only been
on line for 2 weeks and it's all new to me!
                              sharon

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> hello list!
> my name is robin and this is, as the title suggests, my very
> first post...so bare with me!

*gulp*..  sounds wonderful!, but don't you think
we should sort of (um) get to know each other first??

suddenly feeling very shy,
i-girl

> (still thinking of a spiffy quote to close with!)

"a bad haircut changes everything"
                          -edgy

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subject:      meeting may 2

hi all,

there has been some talk about meeting during and/or after the ig
show at jazz fest on thursday may 2.

i would really like to meet some of the very cool people on this
list. so, i was thinking that perhaps those of use who are going to
the thursday may 2 jazz fest ig show could meet after jazz fest is
done for the day.

jazz fest usually wraps up for the day around 7:30 or 8:00 (i think,
anyone know for certain??).

i was thinking we could all meet at the cafe du monde at around 8:30 or
9:00. this will give us all plenty of time to get from jazz fest to
the downtown area. cafe du mone is located in the french quarter,
the address is 1039 decatur st. and it's accross from jackson square.
cafe du monde has a web site at

http://www.noconnect.com/shopping/cafedu/cafe0000.htm

not that i am a public relations person for the cafe, just that i
think it's a pretty cool place, with outside sitting, good coffee,
and it's a very easy place to find.

anyhow, that's my suggestions. i figure if we all meet there, we
should be able to easily spot one another, just look for the
conglemeration of indigo girls t shirts!

so, what do y'all think??

also, any further ideas for actually meeting at jazz fest during or
before the ig performance?? anyone making a banner or a flag??

peace

dan perkins
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we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)
x-to:         0395kchev@umbsky.cc.umb.edu
in-reply-to:  <009a0353.9d028d00.6@umbsky.cc.umb.edu>; from "kirsten,
              grrl o' destiny" at apr 1, 96 1:00 pm

> (kirsten makes a good point about alt.* vs. rec.* groups
>   and privlidges to create groups)

  while what kirsten says about the creation of rec.* vs. alt.* is
absolutely correct and the denial of a rec.* group does not constitute
infingement of one's constitutional right to free speech (its not the
gov't taking away that right after all).  yet, i still would support
the formation of (*ick* i hate to say it) rec.music.white-power.

  basically it comes down to my belief that a free-flow of ideas is in
general a good thing.  i despise it when one side shouts down another
be it a audience attending a gloria stienem panel discussion doing
such camille paglia (as seen on 60 minutes) or operation rescue asses
doing it to clinton.  its a very thin line before individuals start
censoring each other--which is far more dangerous than a government
doing it (imho).

  sadly enough, there is a rather substantial body of
white-supremesist (sp?) music.  and population-wise, they may out
number the people whom (for example) blow glass, but we have our own
newsgroup (rec.arts.glass).  in my opinion its a bigger political
statement to turn down the group, then to let them have it, keep it
above ground, and display to the world the idiocy which they advocate.

                                -- chris

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                              -- s. rutstein

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subject:      re: if it's monday, i must be joking

claire writes:
>you all should be quite pleased with the monumental
>self-restraint that i showed last week by not sharing
>the bloody details of my oral surgery :)
>(shut up...she thinks she's being witty...)

haaaaaaaaaa!!!!!. :- )... and thank you for not sharing!
claire's take on the song joking is almost identical to mine... especially
the part about ar so effortlessly crawling into the skin of another...
switching from one gender to the next in order to get her message across.
further on the john varley book... has any one out there read orlando by
virginia wolfe? ( i'd be surprised to hear a resounding "no" from this list
)... same sort of idea by a woman ahead of her time.
>rue paul said that everyone should put on a big 'ole wig and
>high heels once in their life...i agree, and think it just might
>cause world peace.
well... i suppose this broad, who prefers hiking boots + a wash + wear hair
style could give it a try... despite my gender... i'll still be in drag :-
)... but, you know - anything for world peace...
peace + comfortable stillettos topped by outrageously coiffed (sp?)
hair!!! ( i'm off to fifi latresse's all... ) kim.
<kim fischer>
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>> hello list!
>> my name is robin and this is, as the title suggests, my very
>> first post...so bare with me!
>
>*gulp*..  sounds wonderful!, but don't you think
>we should sort of (um) get to know each other first??
>
>suddenly feeling very shy,
>i-girl

did anyone else laugh as hard at this as i did, or am i just in a good mood
today?
peace y'all  + ... um... a lot of "prying inside each others minds" before
you go bare...  :- )  kim.
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subject:      re: freedom of speech ramblings...(nigc)

christopher becker wrote:
> sadly enough, there is a rather substantial body of
> white-supremesist (sp?) music.
if this is *really* the case, then i would tend to agree with you, christopher.
however, i was under the impression that "white-power" music was just a big
hoax that the neo-nazis invented in order to get their own rec* newsgroup. this
may be an incorrect impression.
kirsten
"we must sink the censorship to find what truth is" -- sonya rutstein
"i wish i was a nomad, an indian or a saint
the edge of death would disappear, leave me nothing left to taint" -- amy

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subject:      nigc but very important!!!

hey, y'all, please lend a hand.  you can do it right now, without moving
from your seat.  email clinton:
president@whitehouse.gov
thanks alot for your time and concern.
love,
karey

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: mon, 1 apr 1996 08:17:26 -0800 (pst)
from: hailey tytel <lemur@u.washington.edu>
to: undisclosed recipients:  ;
subject: news

from the naral downtown list.
news as of today - lots of people (npr, for ex.) now think that clinton
may sign this! email him at president@whitehouse.gov.
he promised to veto if there was no exception to save a woman's health,
and there isn't one. hold him to it!


---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 28 mar 1996 20:09:55 -0800
from: "m. ackermann" <macker@aa.net>
to: wanaral@aa.net
subject: late term abortion ban

to: pro-choice activists

below is a newswire story on the progress of the so-called
"partial birth abortion ban." a revised version passed both
houses of congress yesterday, and is now on president clinton's
desk.

the bill would provide for fines and prison terms for
doctors who perform certain late term abortions.  the bill does
not contain any medical terminology, but the procedure that the
anti's have been refering to (d&x) is used in late term abortions
to save the life or health of the woman or in cases of grave
fetal abnormality.  it is a rare procedure that constitutes
only .04% of all abortions performed -- about 450 per year --
and is often the safest for the woman to undergo.

this bill would send doctors to prison for performing a
medical procedure that they determine is the safest for
their patient.  a similar bill was introduced in the wa
state legislature this year, but did not
pass.

president clinton has indicated that he will
likely veto the bill, but i would urge each of you to call
or email the white house -- he is taking a lot of heat (see
the paragraph about the national council of catholic bishops
below).  please cc emails to wanaral@aa.net, as always.

white house comment line:  202.456.1111
email:                     president@whitehouse.gov

feel free to repost.

regards,
michelle

+++++++++++++++++++

          by sue kirchhoff
          washington (reuter) - escalating an emotional election-year
debate, the house wednesday passed legislation to outlaw
certain, rare late-term abortions, sending it to president
clinton for his expected veto.
          the bill, approved 286-129, marks the first time congress
has moved to ban a specific abortion technique since the supreme
court handed down its landmark roe versus wade decision
legalizing abortion in 1973.
          while the margin of victory in the house was more than the
two-thirds majority needed to override a presidential veto, the
bill's sponsors do not have the needed votes in the senate to
override the veto.
          clinton has said he cannot sign the bill because it does not
allow the procedure in order to protect a woman's health. senate
majority leader bob dole, the presumptive republican nominee,
supports the measure.
          debate on both sides wednesday was graphic and emotional.
          bill supporters brought large illustrations of the
so-called ''partial birth abortion'' technique to the house
floor and used terms such as ''infanticide'' to describe it.
          ''if defending human dignity is political, then i plead
guilty. someone has to speak up for that defenseless child,''
said illinois republican henry hyde.
          opponents told of women who discovered late in wanted
pregnancies they were carrying horribly deformed fetuses or
faced severe health problems of their own, leaving the contested
technique as their best medical option.
          ''these are crisis situations where everything has gone
wrong. we are only talking here about late, late abortions for
people who are clinging to that child, trying to go as far as
possible,'' said rep. pat schroeder, a colorado democrat.
          the bill would outlaw a procedure, technically known as
intact dilation and evacuation, in which a fetus is partially
extracted from the womb, a catheter inserted in the skull and
the brain removed before the fetus is taken out.
          the national abortion federation estimates the technique is
used in fewer than 500 of the 1.3 million abortions that occur
in the united states each year. more than 99 percent of
abortions take place before 20 weeks, when the procedure is
usually performed and 41 states restrict late-term abortions.
          clinton has called the procedure ''very disturbing'' but in
a letter to lawmakers said he would not support the bill unless
it was amended to allow the procedure to protect the health of
women, consistent with supreme court decisions.
          ''we have a duty to try to find common ground: a resolution
to this issue that respects the view of those - including myself
- who object to this particular procedure, but also upholds the
supreme court's requirement that laws regulating abortion
protect both the life and health of american women,'' clinton
said.
          new jersey republican christopher smith warned if clinton
vetoed the bill he would be known as the ''abortion president.''
          the decision by abortion opponents to focus on late-term
abortions, and their graphic descriptions of the contested
technique, has abortion rights supporters on the defensive.
          underscoring the difficulty of the issue, some lawmakers who
have supported abortion rights in the past, such as house
minority leader dick gephardt, a missouri democrat and new york
republican susan molinari supported the bill.
          the legislation would impose up to a two-year prison term
and fines for doctors who perform the contested abortions and
would allow the father or maternal grandparents to sue the
doctor for damages. it is opposed by the american college of
obstetricians and gynecologists.
          the bill was debated in the house under tight procedures
that did not allow any amendments.
          the national council of catholic bishops took out ads in
several newspapers this week urging clinton to sign the bill and
charging an exception for the health of the mother would allow
the abortions to be performed for almost any reason.
          during senate debate on the measure last year, dole offered
a successful amendment allowing the abortions only if no other
technique would save a woman's life. the bill passed the senate
54-44, short of the two-thirds to override a veto.
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on mon, 1 apr 1996 iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu wrote:

> > hello list!
> > my name is robin and this is, as the title suggests, my very
> > first post...so bare with me!
>
> *gulp*..  sounds wonderful!, but don't you think
> we should sort of (um) get to know each other first??
>
> suddenly feeling very shy,
> i-girl
>
> > (still thinking of a spiffy quote to close with!)
>
> "a bad haircut changes everything"
>                           -edgy

that's what i thought too!  guess the technology's just not there yet.
peace and proofreading,
karey

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subject:      kofmyh

just in reply to kristal's wondering about the sotne in the river
i think that the stone
ccccc

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oh crap....this dang e-mail thing is messed up...i can't cancel this for some reson so if it goes to the list i'm really really really sorry.....
forgiveme

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subject:      if i could send lyrics to a friend...

if i could send ig lyrics to a friend...well, i already have...
my best friend clarence (who is the most amazing person in the world) lives
in florida...well, lived...he's coming back here in three days..
anyway, we only seen each other maybe twelve times, but we've been friends
for seven years, calling and writing an such...
i sent him a tape with a bunch of songs that reminded me of him, and one
of the songs was "mystery" mainly becuase each time he pulled down the driveway
i _wasn't_ sure when i would see him again....
but he's coming back and i'm really happy...
anyway..just thought i'd put in my .02
see y'all
sal-ray

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subject:      em & amy really are breaking up!

yes it's true. it was on an interveiw between a local station here in
pheonix and emily herself. the station asked her what her upcoming
projects were and she said she had none. she also said she was tired of
all this publicity and has decided to go solo. not only is she going solo
but she is also doing a las vegas lounge act featuring the songs of
engelbert humperdink.
emily also stated how amy has decided to pursue her life long dream of
becoming a sheep-tamer in southern austria. i take the joke has gotten
old by now so i just want to say april fools:) i know it's stupid but i'm
a really lame person.
hoping the list isn't in cerebral shock,
ben

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> >does anyone agree with me or am i totally off-base here? and do we really
> >agree that not allowing white supremacist news groups will eliminate
> >the problem of white supremacy in america? hmmmmm.....
>
> you are not alone in your sentiment.
> peace - kim.
> <kim fischer>
>  rcn@prcn.org
> *************************************
> life is a room full of rocking chairs and sadistic
> grannies... and i am a cat with a very long tail.
> ************************************

yeh, me too.  censorship is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. (think dana carvey
doing
george bush on saturday night live)
karey

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subject:      strange dream! (igc)

i had such a weird dream last night.... (jessi if you're on line you'll
get a kick out of this one...)

i dreamed that i was staffing a high school youth conference (something i
do a couple times a year) and amy and em were cofacilitating a small
group....i kept trying to be "cool" and hang with them or near them....it
was really funny! i woke up in a pretty good mood; good thing because i'm
not a morning person and i had to be up at 6 to go help deliver babies
today!  :)

thought i'd share--gwen

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subject:      re: em & amy really are breaking up!

that wasn't funny.
it really wasn't funny.
iiii'mm sssttiilll qqqquuuiiivveerrriiinnnnggg.
kirsten
"and so you know you're all right life will come and life will go
but still you feel it's all right cuz you just got a letter to your soul"
--emily

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 1 apr 1996 - special issue

ok, i've been on the list about a month or so now...well, off and on.  anyway,
i have a couple questions for you, my fellow ig obsessees.

1) what's all this "moo" stuff???
2) what does it mean to "flame" someone, or just "flame" in general (forgive me,   i don't remember the context in which it was used)
3) was mama nature joking when she flung snow down from the heavens after a
   wonderful weekend of sunny 70 degree bliss here in ohio?????

just being my own little curious self....and if the answers to numbers 1 and 2
are really obvious and i'm a total dork for not realizing what they are, well,
just be nice in your responses please =)

also, on the topic of the net nazis......kirsten seems to know a lot more about
this than i would even venture to offer an opinion.  so, being kinda net-
terminology-illiterate, i'll just respond to the overall statements from others
on this list that i've read today:  more power to you susan marine and dan
perkins!  i definitely agree, even if they [the white supremecists] are
located under a music topic, it's only their right, just as it is ours.
perhaps there are certain hate-musical groups, ya think?  i have no clue...
and don't get me wrong, i am definitely *not* a nazi or anything even close...
i just always attempt to see the flip-side of things.  anyway, guess
that's it about that.

oh, and about "play it again, sam".......i can totally understand where emily
is coming from (and i think kim said something about it too...) when she
said she feels embarrassed about it.  not that i know when es wrote it or anything, but, yeah, i am an avid writer, and i often look back on things in the
same light...kinda dissatisfied and noticing how far i've come since then.
that's a good thing, though, too....cuz then you're perusing your own growth,
which is quite wonderful.  but, really, being a sophomore in college myself,
it boggled my mind to see those wrods in print for it was as if i would've
written them...i believe i have, in fact, said a couple of those lines to
my friends.....amazing.  she captured the feelings and i think that's
the most important aspect of her (and ar's) songs......always relating to
a little piece of me on a different level........

well, guess i've kinda babbled, huh?  sorry...haven't done it much, though...

ok, take care, and i'll leave you with these words from one of my growing
favorite, folk-ish, woman-songwriters/singers:

"you wear your swastika of hate
while the rest of the world it prays
and my patience is growing thin
for the war you will not win
i will stand up for my brother,
for my sisters, and their lovers,
...while the rest of the world, it prays for peace........
"
-anne e. dechant (formerly of odd girl out)

au revoir,
lesley

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:) you don't believe how lame i am!!! i was like reading the subject and
basically screaming out in misery! if it hadn't been from a regular like ben, i
wouldn't have worried!!!
good one, ben you really got me!!! :)
rick
****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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subject:      e&a: space aliens?  you decide!

i started thinking about all the weird appearances of crop rings in nearby
fields right after indigo girls concerts, and i suddenly realized that a&e
have _got_ to be space aliens from the planet thanksyall...  too many odd
coincidences... all this "peace" stuff that emily sings about is a plot to
lull the earth into submission when the alien hordes come, just as their
otherwordly harmonies send our brains into happy waves of delirium thereby
compromising our planet's security...  plus, scientists are still baffled
by the subatomic particles emitted by amy's tattoo...

if i mysteriously disappear following this post, call the cia and tell
them "code guava, repeat, code guava..."

scot

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if i could send lyrics to a friend.... whoo...  there are so many!!!!
amy or em can sum up everything i want to say, and say it better than i
ever could.  what i usually do is make people mix tapes and hope they'll
get the message.  does anyone here listen to heavenly or velocity girl?
because they have some kick ass lyrics that i'd lke to send to a couple
people i know.....  "i've changed so much this year, but i did it for you
my dear. if you'll let me stick around, i'll never let you down.  but i
guess that i was wrong, i was mistaken all along.  and it's hard to admit
it's the end, so i'll say i'm sorry again, and again, and again, and again."
-velocity girl
amy t.- don't laugh at any of this.....
well, anyways, back to the topic...  once i made a significant other a
mix tape with that sheryl crow song, "strong enough," on it twice.... it
kind of sucked that when we broke up he was like, "i guess i'm not string
enough to be your man."  oops...
well, i guess all that i wanted to say was look both ways before you
cross the street.
-mandy

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subject:      re: em & amy really are breaking up!

ben, ben, ben,

ben's been a bad boy! blasphemous ben. by bulleting bogus buzz
bemoaning beautifull band's bye bye. bad, ben. bad.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
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we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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from:   smtp%"com_scj@hal.lamar.edu" 27-mar-1996 13:13:12.87
to:     und_tlf
cc:
subj:   what am i? (fwd)

date: wed, 27 mar 1996 13:06:11 -0600 (cst)
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from:   smtp%"hollandj@ccmac.canisius.edu" 27-mar-1996 12:33:47.99
to:     com_scj
cc:
subj:   what am i?

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date:          wed, 27 mar 1996 11:23:02 -0500 (est)
from:          "dennis m parente, jr." <parented@gort.canisius.edu>
to:            cheng-yu h wu <wuc@gort.canisius.edu>,
               edward f bukowski <bukowske@gort.canisius.edu>,
               george t wands <wandsg@gort.canisius.edu>,
cjcrow@eden.rutgers.edu,
               agf1997@rit.edu, agt7575@hertz.njit.edu,
               kevin m hanigan <hanigank@gort.canisius.edu>,
               hollandj@ccmac.canisius.edu
subject:       what am i???? (fwd)

anyone who does not immedaitely understand this is damn sick.

guilty as charged.  8)

dumpjer

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    christi hart <chhart@nmsu.edu>,
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    lucas zertuche <lzertuch@nmsu.edu>, marc brito <mbrito@nmsu.edu>,
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                          w h a t   a m   i  ???

this useful tool, commonly found in the range of 8 inches long.  the
functioning of which is enjoyed by members of both sexes.  is usually
found
hung, dangling loosely, ready for instant action.  it boasts of a clump
of
little hairy things at one end and a small hole at the other.  in use,
it is
inserted, almost always willingly, sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly,
into
a warm, fleshy, moist opening where it is thrust in and drawn out again
and
again many times in succession, often quickly and accompanied by
squirming
bodily movements.  anyone found listening in will most surely recognize
the
rhythmic, pulsing sound, resulting from the well lubricated movements.
when
finally withdrawn, it leaves  behind a juicy, frothy, sticky white
substance, some of which will need cleaning from the outer surfaces of
the
opening and some from its long glistening shaft.  after everything is
done
and the flowing and cleansing  liquids have ceased emanating, it is
returned
to its freely hanging state of rest, ready for yet another bit of
action,
hopefully reaching its bristling climax twice or three times a day, but
often much less.


                          w h a t   a m   i  ? ? ? ?


as you may have already guessed, the answer to the riddle is none other
than
your very own.............
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
...........toothbrush...........


what were you thinking?

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i also had a dream with a & e in ti last night!  i was sitting in an
empty office in a cubicle playing my guitar, when who else pokes her ead
around the corner but amy!  she listened to me play for a while, then
emily came by and told us it was time for the show to start.  amy asked
me to play on stage with them, so we got up there and did joking.
afterwards, amy and i went out for subs!  oh, what a dream....
peace,
amanda

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subject:      re: emily saliers=guitar goddess
x-to:         neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk> "re: emily saliers=guitar goddess"
              (mar 29,  1:14pm)

on mar 29,  1:14pm, neily wrote:
> subject: re: emily saliers=guitar goddess
> >incidently, the solo in fugitive - i always thought this was amy's rare turn
> >at a solo - at the shepherds bush show they opened with this and amy played
> >the solo - think she fluffed a note, so at the end of the gig we were asked
> >if we minded hearing it again  (as if!) so that they could get it right for
> >the broadcast.  (actually i think the first attempt ended up on the tv)
>
> i'm convinced at the start of that uk tour em played it too...

tis true.... amy took over the lead half way throught the tour... she got it
right in manchester.

> anyway, the shepherds bush thing (that's the disney special folks...)
> just before the solo (at around the drum fill) there's a cut in the music
> where they dubbed in the solo from the second attempt (and you can see amy
> play notes at the 'wrong' time...) so that's what happened.

tis also true.... the picture/video is from the first take but the solo is from
the second.

sharon


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subject:      the secret marriage of newt & jessie (sorta igc)

hi y'all,

back around january i posted an idea to compile the original works,
either songs, poems, instrumental pieces, or short stories, of fans
of indigo girls.

my idea was, and still is, that there are probably a lot of use ig
fans who are creative in our own right. i think it would be fun and
interesting to share our creative endeavors with each other.

what i am doing is having people send me their creative works on
audio cassette. then i will compile all the works onto one or two
cassettes and send them back out to all those who are interested. in
this way we can all share our creative sides with each other.

so far i have only received about 5 or 6 tapes. i would really like
to have more participation. sooooooo, if you are interested please
e-mail me and i will fill you in on the specific details.

thanks,

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"if we build a society based on honoring the earth,
we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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ooohhh :)
perhaps ben needs a good spanking.
and then we all shall have a good spanking !
:)
zoot

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on wed, 25 may 1994, kim fischer wrote:

> on monday, april 1st/96 susan writes:
> >does anyone agree with me or am i totally off-base here? and do we really
> >agree that not allowing white supremacist news groups will eliminate
> >the problem of white supremacy in america? hmmmmm.....
>
> you are not alone in your sentiment.
> peace - kim.

i also thought that i should post my support of susan.  while people who
think that they are better because of a lack of the skin pigment melanin
make me want to hurl on them, i can't say i have much of a right to not
let them speak.  i did forward the nazi thing around privately, however,
because we are all big boys and girls and need to make our own decisions...
bye, g.

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johnson, claire n.
female
location: washington state
student @ the evergreen state college (can you say seminar ?)
occupation: forester
real occupation: the most fabulous
unknown painter (not houses)
in america.

"i'm the greatest staaarrr, i am by faarrr, but no one knows it !"
                                                                  babs

looking forward to life as an excentric old woman with
lot's of cats.
cats : spiff- white shorthair
          zuzu- little striped fluffy mutt-kitty with a funky tail.
          paulina-white longhair...eaten by coyote 2 years ago*sniff*

older than you.

i think that about says it all :)
claire
(home sick today...shall i tell you about the phlegm ?)
"i'm not a normal girl...so bite me."
maggie estep (late 20th century american poet)

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on mon, 1 apr 1996, scot ninnemann wrote:

>
> if i mysteriously disappear following this post, call the cia and tell
> them "code guava, repeat, code guava..."
>
> scot
>
that post was hilarious!  but should it be "code kumquat?"

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subject:      flames and intros - nigc

hi all,

geez, you leave your terminal for a few days and miss all the drama! not
that i mind, you understand. i'm glad everyone seems to have settled down
to playing nicely again.

i am not going to stir things up again though i have to say that i'm glad
that kim and everyone else willing to have a 'meaningful relationship'
(rather than a purely utilitarian one) with others on the list have decided
to stick around.

mind you jen, i hope you know that you may have opened up a can or worms
again (urgh, what does that mean anyway. i mean has anyone ever seen a can
of worms?) by actually inviting people to talk about themselves!! like we
matter!

i'll be in on it on one condition - dwayne, you go first. no, really, i'm
sincere. i want to know if you are an economist.

(oh, kristina, tsk, tsk, tsk - now what did you just say about not stirring?),

kristina (the iii).
^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

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cool! i can do it too!!! :)

sayre, rick b.
male
location: miami, florida (woo woo woo.)
occupation: toy store employee gone bad!!!
real occupation: unpublished author- typical fare- gay superheros & teen aged
kidnappers on a road trip through the south-eastern us...
no cats, but a rabbit: murphy mo-dean.
:) and i'm just 22!! :)

next??


****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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i am always on... tee hee.  that is strange. i think something is in the
water, cause we are all having wakko dreams.  like mine of staying with
the cobain family.  strange thing is, i may have to contact his estate
for something at work this week.  can we say foreshadowing??


-jessi

>----------
>from:  gwen keyt[smtp:gkeyt@paul.spu.edu]
>sent:  monday, april 01, 1996 12:58 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       strange dream! (igc)
>
>i had such a weird dream last night.... (jessi if you're on line you'll
>get a kick out of this one...)
>
>i dreamed that i was staffing a high school youth conference (something
>i
>do a couple times a year) and amy and em were cofacilitating a small
>group....i kept trying to be "cool" and hang with them or near
>them....it
>was really funny! i woke up in a pretty good mood; good thing because
>i'm
>not a morning person and i had to be up at 6 to go help deliver babies
>today!  :)
>
>thought i'd share--gwen
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> >incidently, the solo in fugitive - i always thought this was amy's rare turn
> >at a solo - at the shepherds bush show they opened with this and amy played
> >the solo - think she fluffed a note, so at the end of the gig we were asked
> >if we minded hearing it again  (as if!) so that they could get it right for
> >the broadcast.  (actually i think the first attempt ended up on the tv)
>
> tis true.... amy took over the lead half way throught the tour... she got it
> right in manchester.

amy did something hilarious in minneapolis with this... so she's got an
electric guitar on for the solo, and she plays the solo's repeated first
note just fine... f#... f#... f#... f#... and she gets stuck and doesn't
slide up when she's supposed to.  realizing this, she goes nuts and bashes
the headstock of the guitar down on the amp five or six times, i don't
know how the guitar kept from breaking completely in half!!!-- a massive
klannnngggggg sound resulting, of course, and all the amy fans in the hall
burst into complete rapture. =)  the band keeps going with the riff, and
eight measures or so later, having regained composure, she tries it again,
meeting with much more success the second time...  what a moment, huh?
oh, if we only had it on video...

scot

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<kirsten, grrl o' destiny (0395kchev@umbsky.cc.umb.edu) wrote:>

obdisclaimer:  i don't agree with the white power folks.  blah, blah,
blah...

sorry this is off topic but please allow a crusty old net-geek to
interject so info about usenet news.

>let me elaborate on my point. according to the time-honored rules of usenet
>*anyone* can have their own newsgroup -- as long as it's an alt* group.
>
i suspect the reason that the white-power folks are requesting a rec.*
group is because alt groups lack distribution.  not only are many sites
not accepting alt groups, the recent (past couple of years)
proliferation of newgroups being done for alt.* groups has caused many
news admins to automatically rmgroup all new alt groups that haven't
passed a vote in alt.config.  this means that alt groups can be freely
created but are likely to be ignored or actively deleted.  things
weren't always so in the alt hierarchy but anyone that thinks its
currently easy to create an alt groups should wade into alt.config.

>that
>way, any site who does or does not wish to devote disk space to
>alt.white-power,alt.sex.bestiality.barney, or, for that matter,
>alt.music.indigo-girls can choose whether or not to do so.
>
actually, you can accept or deny a newsgroup, regardless of which
hierarchy its in.

>however, the mainstream hierarchies have
>traditionally been reserved for those groups that have undergone the voting
>process and are thus of vaguely general interest. this creates a standard
>set of newsgroups which is carried by every site.
>
that's an incredibly idealic approach.  in fact, cfvs have been
undergoing criticism for many, many years.  its all to easy to influence
the "democratic voting".  i'll be glad to share some examples via
private email, if you're interested.

>remember, the net.nazis want
>to create their group under rec.music. white power has nothing to do with
>music;
>
a quick perusal of the 16,785 newsgroups on our main server reveals some
newsgroups in the mainstream hierarchy that aren't "general interest".
in fact, newgroups by their very definition are *not* general
interest.  they're highly specialized.  if there was still a single
newgroups devoted to computers, it would be registering an insane number
of articles per day (we currently have 734meg worth of articles under
the comp hierarchy, i won't take the time to determine the number of
individual articles.)  if folks want to talk about white-power music,
let 'em have their own group rather than interjecting it amoung the
conversations in one of the other 45 rec.music groups.

>but
>for heavens' sake, do your homework before you cry out about this
>particular issue.
>
before you promote aspects of the net, please do your homework.

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you know, all this talk of net-nazis and auditoriums full of 'strangers' is
giving me the creeps. just to top it all off, i turned on the radio this
morning and the announcer was saying that the chat topic for the morning was
"things that people do that should make you wary of them". yech, what is this:
international "lets all hide under our beds and never come out day?" (ooh,
unintentional pun, but kinda good don't you think?).

anyhow, i know that these are all important topics but i'd just like to
interject a little lightness into the day. what i want to know is: are em
and amy cat persons or dog persons (or do they swing both ways)? i am
assuming that amy is definitely a cat person (because of all the references)
- but that doesn't necessarily mean that she is dogist. and i think that
emily has just got to be a dog person - i mean just look at her; she has
"person who loves puppies written all over her!"

furthermore, if you were going to give emily (or amy) a dawg what kind would
it be? i would definitely give emily a red setter - gorgeous, red-haired,
full of beauty and integrity but kind of goofy at the same time! i think
i'd give amy a lone coyote ( so she could set it free),

ta ta from me,

kristina

"you know a refuge never grows from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose".

^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

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my friend/ex miriam loves them, but i haven't gotten to hear them much
because she hasn't delivered the tape she's been promising me.  funny
someone should mention them today, tho: i've had that song about the
breakup in my head today.
i'll take the pins out of the doll,
i'll take the darts out of the wall.

it's a nice day for sailing,
let's go for a spin.
you don't have to worry now that i'll push you in,
you know this time i mean it,
this time's for real.
something something something....
help! i can't remember!

yeh, anyway, everyone should get into heavenly's music.
peace,
karey

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hey dan--imo, meeting at the cafe du monde at the end of the day on may 2
is a grreeaatt idea!!  what do the rest of y'all think??

for meeting up at the jazzfest stage on the 2nd & at uno on the 4th:
i'd be happy to make a banner, maybe one that has "folkisgruven" written
across it, with a coupla "moos!" too, like in the corners or something. i
have pretty good "lettering" skills and i like doing that kind of thing,
so it wouldn't be a problem. just a thought. feedback is welcome! and if
anyone else was planning on/wanting to make the banner, no problem there,
either. just let me know!

regarding may 4--*where* and *when* to meet up:  seems like we had 3
ideas floating around earlier:

1)  before the concert--like in a restaurant near uno
2)  at the concert--finding the banner at uno
3)  after the concert--finding the banner at uno, or in a restaurant or
other place outside uno

before the concert:  karrie b. (and i think some other folks) posted an idea
awhile back:  to meet up in a place near the show (like a restaurant) and
then walk over together...does anyone know of a restaurant-type place near
uno where we could meet? is anyone familiar with this area? i think i
remember some ideas being posted about a month ago. please re-post them!!

at the concert (and after, too):  do most people have "floor"
("orchestra") seats, right in front? i remember a lot of people posting about
what row their tix are, and it seemed like they were all like rows 9, 11, 18,
19....i'm assuming this is all in the same general area right in front of the
stage. i'm in row 19, so maybe i could arrange to have the banner off to the
side of that "floor/orchestra" section--like maybe 20 min before the show or
something. anyone who wants to meet up then could congregate there. this
would give those people who didn't make it to the "pre-concert" eatery a
chance to meet list-folks. after the concert, we could congregate at the same
"banner" spot and then maybe all go out together or something...or just
plan to meet at another (or the same?) restaurant near uno.

whew! sorry for just spewing stuff out like that. these are just some
ideas; of course, we could do something completely different!

i guess i'm thinking it would be good to try to reach a consensus on
dan's idea (for may 2, after jazzfest) and on meeting spots on may 4. if
we finalize the *where* and *when* of these "meeting spots", the chances of us
all getting to meet one another are greater. and i think there's a lot of
interest among some of y'all in doing that! and it'll be lots of fun.

ideas? let's work out a plan!

christine

* and t-shirts, too....we should reach a consensus on that maybe? maybe
have several different options? a lot of great ideas have been tossed out
on that one!

"the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear..."  -- e.s.

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what's up with the bio thing?  are we all doing it??

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subject:      a belated ghost

well, i know, i missed ghost day my a mile...*sigh*...but then again, what
am i not late for?
i read many interesting commentaries and stories on this song, but i think
it means something completely different to me.  yes, this _will_ have some
personal content, but it's mostly ig related.  still, feel free to hit the
delete button if you so desire.  anyway, the basic framework i have been
hearing on this song is that emily is conveying the need to deal with an old
love, or perhaps a love that has not yet dissipated.  i have a different idea,
though, and feel free to disagree with me.  to me this song was more symbolic,
representing the pain (yes, i said pain) of realizing that i had to leave the
safety of a heterosexual life, and push forward into the dangers of life as
a homosexual.  for me, the "adolescent war" was a struggle with myself during
my later adolescent years to admit to myself that i was not straight.  that
admission was one of the most painful realizations i have ever made about
myself.  i was, and probably am still in love with the ghost of days past,
days when i was safe from harrassment and abuse.  i remember the time before
i had any clue i could be a lesbian as some of the happiest and safest years of
my life.  inevitably, though, i started to realize what was happening.
"i start to feel a fever from the warm air through the screen you come
regular like seasons, shadowing my dreams"
for me, that shadow was the slow realization that i didn't fit the stereotype
of a typical teenager.  it haunted me constantly and frightened me to no end.
slowly, those feelings began to take over, until they were a part of me; all
i could think about.  "and i guess that's how you started like a pinprick to
my heart but at this point you rush right through me and i start to drown".

i don't really know how i can break down some of the rest of this song, and
tell you all how much it means to me.  in a more general sense, i feel strongly
that the lover in this song is alternately the safety of a heterosexual life,
and the satisfaction and fear of a lesbian life.  while i was spiritually
pleased with myself for finally allowing my feelings to be true, and stopping
the repression, i was frightened of the harrassment that would follow, and
the life of discrimination.  hmmm...i just scrolled back and realized i forgot
to mention, as well as the ghost of a heterosexual life, this song also
represents the ghosts of lesbianism that haunted me.  sorry, maybe some of
this drivel makes a little more sense.  in any case, emily's imagery in this
song is powerful, to say the least, and it truly conveys the struggle of my
heart, mind, body, and soul to realize who i really am.  okay, so you're
probably confused now, and you have no idea what i'm talking about.  *sigh*
sorry about that.  i guess it's still hard for me to write or talk coherently
about this...

"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush when i wake
the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush when you kiss me like
a lover then you sting me like a viper i go follow to your river play your
memory like the piper"

"can you hear it a cry to be free"

"my bitter pill to swallow is the silence that i keep"

sometimes, especially when i'm listening to this song, i feel like emily is
inside my thoughts and feelings, and that she can express eloquently what i
can only dream of being able to verbalize.  is this stupid?  does anyone else
ever feel the same way?  tell me i'm not crazy...

if only emily could help me tell _my_ sweetie what i'm feeling for her...
*sigh*

well, i'm sorry to have taken up so much space here.  if you're still reading
at this point, well, you win the persistence award of the year.  either that
or you're hopelessly bored.  either one.

take care,
sue

"though i'm baptised by your touch i am no worse at most in love with your
ghost"  -emily saliers

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you know, i was on a bruce springsteen list (i have an undying affinity
for the boss) and all they posted was concert dates, boots and favorite
songs.  it was extremely boring!!!! and i got off that list stat.  talk
about snoresville.  this list kicks butt in my so humble opinion--gwen

on wed, 25 may 1994, kim fischer wrote:

> here i am... checking in again on a regular ( daily ) basis... hope this
> doesn't make anyone cranky...  :- )
> i'm just wondering... what happens if only posts that have absolute igc and
> nothing else are made?... you know - just info about upcoming concerts + cd
> releases etc. would the posts be few + far between? much as i love getting
> that info ( well, duh ) i absolutely ( franny ) love to read the other ig
> related stuff too, and i love it that people check in + say "hi" on a
> regular basis.
>  i'm pretty certain most of us list members in the "auditorium" that
> kristina spoke of are routing for the speaker... we're all a pretty diverse
> but non-judgemental bunch - given our taste in music. i guess, from what
> i've been able to discern, the list is what its members make it. and yes,
> it's potentially a world-wide forum, but dwayne's point being? ( not an
> attack on him... he just mentioned it first ).... what is the fear here?...
> who was it who wrote so well a couple of days back about a and e getting up
> in front of huge crowds and singing about very personal things to all who
> care to listen. their cds go world wide... no fear....
> is it big brother????? my god... now i'm scared... paranoia rears it's ugly
> head ( then ducks for cover )....
> anyway... for you who didn't hit the delete key the moment you read my name
> on the title bar... thanks for listening :- )
> peace... kim.
>
> <kim fischer>
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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 22:21:17 est
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from:         herbert huels <73771.760@compuserve.com>
subject:      amy soc

---------- forwarded message ----------


dan wrote:
i was wondering if anyone had the text to amy's stream of
consciousness (sp??) where she starts saying  i will not be
complacent. if you anyone does, i would appreciate it if you would
e-mail it to me.

thanks.

whoever has one, can you send me a copy, too??
thank you kindly!
-moe(simone)

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date:         mon, 1 apr 1996 22:29:27 est
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subject:      introductions???

jen, i think its a lovely idea!!!
im relatively new to the list and seem lost at times, when old
topics come up and im clueless!!!
so how about it  (i mean who's gonna start)
ill post an autobio. later...
moe(a nickname not to be confused with moo!)

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subject:      ncaa women's final (vligc)

did anyone else watch the ncaa women's final and notice the unbelievable
resemblance between emily and tennesee's mvp, michelle marciniak?

i actually thought someone else would have written in about it.

-carlisle

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subject:      re: nigc: heavenly
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i also adore heavenly, especially the song "c is the heavenly option"

how about anyone else?

love
aim

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subject:      re: flames and intros - nigc

in a message dated 96-04-01 19:35:00 est, kristina writes:

>mind you jen, i hope you know that you may have opened up a can or worms
>again (urgh, what does that mean anyway. i mean has anyone ever seen a can
>of worms?) by actually inviting people to talk about themselves!! like we
>matter!

i realize that kristina is saying this tounge and cheek, but i simply
must put my serious hat on for just a second (before the thera flu
kicks in) and say that yes we all matter. i truly appreciate a & e's
gifts as artists, but i don't for one moment feel that they are more
important than any other person on this planet. if i were famous artist
(like a & e), it would make me sad if some folks thought that they
were any "less" important than me.
of course i'm not suggesting that we just talk about ourselves on
an indigo girls mailing list....but you know what i mean...just
a little self esteem pep-talk from mom. :)
yours truly,
claire
"we are the tears that fall from your eyes
word of your word, cry of your cry"
                                       patti smith

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subject:      re: bio:(nigc)
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hey...

i think i can define myself this way...but i'm much more exciting in
person...


name: benore, amy marie
location: allendale, michigan (where?!!??)
occupation: former turkey deli manager, demoted self to turkey deli worker
real occupation: student, music junkie, writer, smoker, no...non-smoker,
no, smoker.....
pets: two wonderful ferrets: barlow and threnody
age: twenty one going on twenty one

there...oh, i thought of one more catagory...

vices, bad habits, etc: smoking, jack daniels, and procrastination


ha...
love
aim

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subject:      re: nigc: heavenly
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yeah, i jock heavenly.   listen to that song "she and me" it kind of
reminds me of what would happen if i ever met the girls...  well, i n a
way....  i think it's on the rise and decline of heavenly...
-mandy


on mon, 1 apr 1996, cardigan wrote:

> i also adore heavenly, especially the song "c is the heavenly option"
>
> how about anyone else?
>
> love
> aim
>
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subject:      re: bio:(nigc)
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here goes, for all you who care.

name: gwen keyt
given name :gwendolyn margaret keyt, but i won't be your friend if you
call me that! :)
location: seattle, wa
occupation: nursing student, sometime cna/nurse tech
real occupation: school, musician wannabe, artiste wannabe, singin' fool,
more school...did i mention school?...seamstress (on spring break, summer
break, xmas break...), school...
pets: the best cats in the entire world.  escher the wonder cat, sissy
hankshaw (she really hitchhikes!), and possum, who scared her aunt jessi
as a kitten and won her own name.
age: twenty two
favorite book: _the man who fell in love with the moon_ by tom
spanbauer.  close second: anything by toni morrison.  close third:
anything by tom robbins except _half asleep in frog pajamas_. ugh! i
hated that book!  (it was about gwendolyn...written in the 2nd
person...and she lived in seattle...a little too creepy for me...and i
hated her!)
favorite movie: the color purple or thelma and louise or better off dead
or when harry met sally.....
favorite thing to do during finals week:clean the house, bake, catch up
on my laundry, anything that might be considered procrastination.

okay, enough self indulgence for one day.--gwen

>
> pets: two wonderful ferrets: barlow and threnody
> age: twenty one going on twenty one
>
> there...oh, i thought of one more catagory...
>
> vices, bad habits, etc: smoking, jack daniels, and procrastination
>
>
> ha...
> love
> aim
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subject:      nigc... i want an intro too!!!!

ohh, my turn!!!!!!!!

name: mandy warren  (amanda colleen, to be exact)
from: washington d.c. area, well, actually, maryland.... same thing.
school: i'm a lowly frosh at elon college (pretend you've heard of it) in
north carolina  (near duke univ. and chapel hill.)
major: music theatre (translation: waitress)
age: 18... woohoo... i'm legal!
favorite books: dancing on my grave, the autobio of gelsey kirkland, and
the bell jar by sylvia plath (my favority author! who, btw, loves
virginia woolf....)
pets: two cats (at home) a big fat tabby named sandy and a little hyper
kitten named clovis.
aspirations: meet a + e and not say something stupid, and take broadway
by storm!
eye color: green
favorite classes: modern dance + guitar and voice lessons

ok.... that's it.
li'l ol' me.
bye!
-mandy

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subject:      re: indigo animals

>furthermore, if you were going to give emily (or amy) a dawg what kind would
>it be? i would definitely give emily a red setter - gorgeous, red-haired,
>full of beauty and integrity but kind of goofy at the same time! i think
>i'd give amy a lone coyote ( so she could set it free),
hey... i really like this thread, but you know... i've had a long day (
happy though ) and my brain will not kick into gear ( okay.... run a line
through excuse #1... it's been used now... ) and i doubt even if it was
working well that i could better kristina's choices for ig dawgs.... anyone
else?
how about cats?... easy: an orange marmalade to e and for a: a sleek black
"i can look after myself- here's what i look like not needing you" one (
cats - all attitude ) just don't let em in the room with those grannies!!!!!!
peace + pets... kim.
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subject:      meeting ig fantasies...

    hi, everyone!
       i've noticed a couple different folks wrote references to meeting
a & e and so i was wondering if this was a common fantasy...i have
something to confess, if every one promises not to boo me. i had the
opportunity to meet them about two years ago through a friend of mine and
i couldn't do it! i mean, i felt like a total fool! i would have said
something stupid or not been able to speak or an awful thing like that.
besides, it must be hard to be famous and have all these people wanting
to meet you. still, i wonder what it would have been like...*sigh*
                               sharon

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subject:      this list rules!

as tamara steps up to the podium, she tries to calm her nerves and picture
everyone in their birthday suits... whoa!!  on second thought...

"hi.. (*clears throat, gains composure*).. folks!  my name is tamara and i'm an
ig listaholic... (*bows head in shame*)..."  this is where you come in with one
big reassuring "hi tamara!"

okay, i've only been on this list for two months and everyone that i've spoken
with, pertaining to ig or otherwise, has been extremely friendly.  with all the
talk lately of whether to, or not to, post personal stories, etc., etc, i've
become a bit perplexed.  i personally enjoy hearing what everyone has to say.
is that crazy?... don't answer that!! (*grin*)  i may be wrong, but here's what
i come up with:  either (a) i care about what you all have to say and tend to
enjoy hearing the different perspectives and experiences presented... (b) i'm
extremely bored... or.... (c) i'm totally addicted to this list...  take your
pick.  i think it's (a), but i would definitely admit to seeing traces of (b)
and (c) in my blood as well!

i can only say that i'm happy that i picked this list to join.  however, it
probably has warped my image of lists on the whole now.  because everyone is so
warm and friendly, i will expect other lists to be the same.  as a matter of
fact, until everyone began opposing or affirming the rights to post certain
types of messages, i thought this was what most lists were like.  boy, was i in
for a shock!  i'm sure if i ever join a list like gwen mentioned earlier
(stuffy, no personal comments, etc.) it could never live up to the expectations
i now have (but that'll never happen 'cause it takes enough time just to keep up
with y'all.  another list is totally out of the question!).  a list like this
one really gives you a sense of how good people in this world can be, if they so
choose.  you all really seem to be a great group of people.  i'm sounding like a
total sap, i know.  but you all should know that what you say touches others
here.  whether it be humorous (and i have definitely gotten my share of laughs
today!!) or serious, you can bet that there is someone sitting out here saying,
"and i thought i was the only one who did that!!"  though i'm still a bit shy
when it comes to posting personal comments, i can totally identify with some of
those i have read.  so, i say don't worry about big brother, those critics in
the balcony or the ever-present antagonist (though i don't think there is one
here, some may disagree).  if you ever get stage fright, you can remember me.
i'm the one sitting in the 21st row, seat c, and i'm giving all of you a
standing ovation!! (*smile*)  don't let that guy who walks out in the middle of
the show spoil the entire experience for you.  enough of bad analogies though!
my point is, do what you feel comfortable doing and be yourself.  most people
here appreciate you for it.

peace and apologies for those who didn't want to read a post like this, but
somehow managed to get this far!  funny how that happens!!  :)

tamara (stepping down from the podium.... waiting to be pelted with rotten fruit
and vegetables...  yikes!)

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subject:      newbie bio (nigc)

hi, i'm rachel, self-confessed ig worshipper and recent list lurker.  thought
i'd hang around a while to get the feel of things before popping my head out,
& thought the bio thing was a good place to start.  this already feels kind of
odd and self-indulgent, and i've no idea if you all want to hear any of this,
so feel free to hit the delete button at any time... i won't be offended.
(sniff.)  ;)
name: rachel macknight
location: boston, mass
occupation: student (freshman at boston u), philosopher, leech on society
real occupation: musician,actor,free thinker,lazy bum.  clearly multitalented!
pets: 2 adorable cats, both back home in chevy chase, md (yes, like the actor)
(no, not named after him--it's a suburb of wash, dc and rumor has it he grew
up in baltimore and liked the name so took it on when he entered show biz.
anyway.  ahem.)  the cats are: stephanie, as in princess, because she's beauti
ful and has that regal aura about her; and 'alani, which is hawaiian for orange.

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i get it. monty python-the holy grail. but i still believe "the life of
brian" is their masterpiece and one of the top 10 funniest movies of all
time!
love,
ben

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subject:      (nigc) dar williams
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in-reply-to:  <2.2.16.19960311113822.2ff710d0@pop300.gsfc.nasa.gov>

hi everybody. sorry to take up band width but does anyone have a tour
schedule for dar williams? if not, could some kind soul please visit her web
site for me at http://www.panix.com/~tneff/dar/, because i don't have www
access, and grab me one. i would be eternally greatful.

thanks in advance,

derek

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subject:      newbie bio, continued (still nigc)

...and well then, my computer just decided to send off my e-mail before i was
finished.  ah well.  actually, i pretty much finished my bio in the last one,
just didn't want you guys to think i abandoned the message without so much as
a goodbye (insert powerful dramatic music here)
by the way, this is a really great list, and i think you all are really cool
and wonderful people.  don't stop posting the personal stuff-- it's a major
part of what makes the list so special.  anyway, i'll climb down off my
soapbox now (whew!)...
          --rachel
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i played the powerless
in too many dark scenes
and i was blessed with a birth and a death
and i guess i just want some say in between
          --ani difranco
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oh, p.s>!
i forgot to add my age (i know you were breathless with the suspense)
i'm 19.  but timeless at heart... (grin)

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subject:      michelle...nigc

hello, dear, dear, listees! =)
      just a quick question.  is there any michelle malone list like this
one? [martha and julie, i don't wanna hear it!!! ;) ]  also, if you sent me
money for stickers, it might behoove you to drop me a little line... i'm
getting fruity in my old age and am having problems with concentration...
they came in today, and i seem to have a few more extras than i expected.  am
i missing someone?  i'm off!  peace, love, and a butter biscuit, sarah

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subject:      re: bio:(nigc)
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okay, why not...one more bio:

name: michael harris messner
nicknames: mike, miguel, miguelito, stills, slim
location: usually davis, ca
occupation: graduate student
real occupation: guitarist, aspiring songwriter, parking director, foole
hobbies: politics, history, music, geeking
vices: gourmet beer, other things

--mike

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subject:      orlando and breaking gender barriers (little igc)

hello everyone!

kim writes:

>has any one out there read orlando by
>virginia woolf? ( i'd be surprised to hear a resounding "no" from this
list...

i haven't read the book, but i have seen the movie, and i thought it was
very, very good. it's an independent british film directed by a woman -- does
anyone out there remember the names of the star and director? my memory is
blank on this one. it really challenged me to rethink the whole concept of
gender, which feminists postulate (and i would tend to agree) is really a
socially constructed thing. its basis was in biological differences, and then
all these societal conventions got piled on top of it. i thought the film,
and the book on which it is based, are quite revolutionary...

i also love how, in many ways, i feel the ig's music transcends these
traditional boundaries of gender and sexuality. not to minimize the
importance of either, but i think it's great how we can now begin to redefine
these things for ourselves. i have often been described as "androgynous" -- i
think because i don't fit into these traditional notions of what being female
entails, particularly in my very conformist society -- and i think ig has
helped me be okay with that.

what do you all think?

my two cents,

anna

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      jonas and ezekiel

i just love this song...gives me the same vibes as world falls in a
way...i guess because they're both the result of trips across the
country, seeing situations from a different view point.  the
version on 1200 curfews always gives me chills...the intro...just
love it.
not much else to say really except i was listening to suzanne vega at
the weekend and i was wondering if anyone knew anything more about
the song the queen and the soldier...it has mesmerised and perplexed
me for years and i thought someone out there may have some insight.
thanks :)
talk to y'all later
love helene
"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky"
kate wolf (1979)

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subject:      is today joanas ans eziekal

if it is  ...

i finally worked out the dampened strumming pattern to this over the
wekend and spooked myself with how good this song was. simple yet
effective. all of the amy tunes have the power in their simplcity and the
subtulty (sp) of the guitar part. fugitive, ptntf and j&e are really
simple musically but the emotion works. must be hard to be that emotive
on stage every night. !!

jules
p.s. helen if ya get the answer for queen and the soldier let me in on
the secret !!

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subject:      where larissa has been-very minimal igc

hey yall-

so i am back from break and am transisted into my new account but i have lost
all my mail from march 21-31, so if you mailed me in there, can you re-send?
*very sorry* about that, i am on e-world's butts about it but i don't know
what they can do...so i recieved lots of tapes for purple parrot and should
have them all back out at yall by the end of the week...i had a pretty shitty
break all told, brok up with my girl at least for the time being *and* my
fish i've had for 4 years died...and other stuff, so i'm bummin...

peace,

larissa

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well, my goodness... an introduction, eh?

let's see... i am a full-time ig list lurker (i post from time to time,
but i bet none of you remember the last post i made (-: ).

been an indigo girls fan for a long time. have seen them in concert twice
in cincinnati, and bumped into amy in atlanta once. have all their cds
except in with the out crowd... my ex-wife turned me on to the igs. she
came back from a summer stock gig talking about this new group she's
heard. she played the tape for me, and i fell in love with them instantly.

other than that, i am a 28 year old white male, scorpio and libra, long
brown hair, goatee, glasses. i'm 5'11" tall, and i weigh (mumble). i
live in cincinnati ohio, but i will (cross your fingers) be moving to my
house in northern kentucky (no more renting!) shortly. what else? i work
at the university of cincinnati as an admissions officer. i graduated
from northern kentucky university in 1991 with a bfa in theatre
directing and performance.

within about 10 days, i've seen penn & teller, a show called conquest of
my brother, and will (hopefully) see october project this friday.

currently, i am acting in a one-act called the toilet. once i get back
from my world travels (see below), i will be looking to direct a show
called night baseball, a long one-act. anyone know either of these?

world travels: i am leaving next monday for a week in california. my
brother (my only brother - he's 3 years older than me) is getting married
to a wonderful woman. their wedding will be in bodega (sp?) bay, which,
btw, is where hitchcock's the birds was filmed. i'll spend a week out
there with my bro.

then, in early may, i am going to london (well, croyden) for a week or so
for another friend's wedding. that will be fun -- i've been looking
forward to that trip for over a year. it'll be my first time out of the
country.

once back, all my attention (and money, and sweat) will be put into the
house i'm getting. it's an historic brick home, 4+ bedrooms, pocket
doors, stained glass windows, and a beautiful tile fireplace. i'll be
living there alone (but for my wonderful dog, stanley) until i can get it
fixed up. much of the renovation has been completed, so most of the
things to do are cosmetic.

i suppose that's a good start... if anyone should want to know more,
check my web page:
http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap
or write me privately.

-drew

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author, single guy, & much, much more! apvlbsb. a+e=ig. try my home page at
"http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"          "the only way out is through."

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organization: ecsd
subject:      intro

well, i have been posting for awhile, but since we have started
introducing ourselves, here goes.

name: dan perkins alias problem child alias bassman  also known as
that tall guy.

i make my living as a  systems support specialst (computer geek),
but really i am a musician: bass player, songwriter.

where do i live? all right everyone sing  "i was on the road to austin"
but i grew up in miami, fl... hi rick!

i am single, no children, but i do have a rather large dog named
buster. buster is cool and is my best friend (even if he doesn't dig
indigo girls).

the most important thing is may 2 is getting closer (to fine!).


i am older than amy and emily, but not as old as my parents.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"if we build a society based on honoring the earth,
we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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date:          mon, 1 apr 1996 18:49:47

well, i have been posting for awhile, but since we have started
introducing ourselves, here goes.

name: dan perkins alias problem child alias bassman  also known as
that tall guy.

i make my living as a  systems support specialst (computer geek),
but really i am a musician: bass player, songwriter.

where do i live? all right everyone sing  "i was on the road to austin"
but i grew up in miami, fl... hi rick!

i am single, no children, but i do have a rather large dog named
buster. buster is cool and is my best friend (even if he doesn't dig
indigo girls).

the most important thing is may 2 is getting closer (to fine!).


i am older than amy and emily, but not as old as my parents.

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"if we build a society based on honoring the earth,
we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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from:         katie mccurry <ktm@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
subject:      jonas & ezekial

i'm so glad it's j&e day!! i love this song so much! i don't know what it
is about it- it just has this power to it- ya know?? sorry- i'm not one
to delve deep into the meaning of songs at 10:00 in the morning- sorry-
no enlightenment here- :)oh well- i hadn't posted in a while- glad to see
you all! (see?- well, you know what i mean- ><}}}"> ) have a happy day!!
love, katie ><}}}">

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from:         lisa grandjean <lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu>
organization: trinity college of vermont
subject:      intro

name: lisa grandjean
age:18
from: saratoga ny, though i go to college in burlington, vt(trinity)
job: leadership program assistant at trinity college(pretty much i
bum $$ off the college to go to the conferences i want to go to!! :)
aspiration: 1. to meet a &e and become their back up singer
            2. to be an interpreter for argentina/u.s.
            3. to one day have enough $$ to have a ig fan club world
wide party and fly you all in to meet you!!
hobbies: molson, sleeping
fav ig album: 1200 curfews
fav ig song: love will come to you
other fav album: allman bros. eat a peach
fav song: blue sky, allman bros.

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      intros, bios, and a suggestion...

hey folks,

  before i begin, a disclaimer:

        this is not a flame re: intros (personally i like them =))

but it may be possible to do things more gracefully.  on many irc
groups i attend (including a #indigo-girls channel) we have
established "picture www pages," perhaps we could do something for
bios?  there is at least one www goddess i know of on this list
(probably more) and to be honest, this project doesn't need a
goddess--its fairly easy.

   after we find a volunteer to be www keeper i'll edit the "welcome
letter" to mention the url and the keeper's email address and invite
folks to send the keeper a short bio.  the bio would then be put on
the homepage and (perhaps) forwarded to the list (once).  if the
keeper wanted to include things like small gifs of folks, that would
be up to them and would depend on their needs.

  the "problem" (to some people it isn't a problem, and to some its a
huge one [those that pay e-mail to e-mail]) is that we reintroduce
ourselves every 6 months or so. =) new folks have no idea of knowing
that, but its true.  the www page would have the info ready at any
given moment.

  we could also include basic stuff like the welcome letter,
marianne's faq, links to other indigo www pages, links to pages of
other artists we listen to (dar, ani, mm, etc.), links to our own
pages... you get the idea.

  any suggestions, thoughts, or volunteers?

                                -- chris  (a 27yo swm, astrophysics grad
                                            student.  turn-ons include
                                           sunny days and people whom
                                           smile at each other...) ;)


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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 07:44:00 -0800
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      bio, j&e, playing catch up

i am so glad to be back!!!  you don't know how much i missed this list for a
week!!

so what did i miss?  anything?  has anyone made/gotten a copy of amy's new
song(s) yet?  or any new stuff by emily?  *crosses fingers*  any new info on
the b&js folk fest?  when do tix sales start anyway?  i usually call in
early july, but something tells me if i don't call really fast this year,
yall will beat me to my tix!

brief bio:
name: karen vittek
school: univ. of oregon, eugene, or
age: 22
hobbies: guitar/singing, buying too much music from daemon records and
elsewhere, ig, me, dar williams, laura kemp, vld, many many others...copying
tapes for people...x-files, star trek, reading sf/fantasy...and of course
school!!! (oh yeah, that.)  this is my second degree...*sigh*

i have 18 cats at home in nh with my parents, none in my dorm room though...

okay, definitely enough of that.

j&e!!!  i love this song both because of the themes it covers, the sad story
of the bookstore owner who got shot that it's based on, and the watch drop
at the beginning that is just so random and fits in so well.  and i'm from
nh so i've been to hanover/the dartmouth college area (i used to work at
camp over there on the vermont side, actually) where amy wrote this song and
i always sing the first lines really loudly.


this is such a coherent message.

oh, and on a totally related note (ha ha, dream on) does anyone know how to
make the interlocking woman's symbols on the computer?  i need one for my
sig file.  thanks  =)

k

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: intros, bios, and a suggestion...
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>

on  2 apr 96 at 10:30, christopher m. becker wrote:


> but it may be possible to do things more gracefully.  on many irc
> groups i attend (including a #indigo-girls channel) we have
> established "picture www pages," perhaps we could do something for
> bios?  there is at least one www goddess i know of on this list
> (probably more) and to be honest, this project doesn't need a
> goddess--its fairly easy.
>

this is a great idea...hope someone picks up on it...i feel a little
useless in situations like these, not knowing an awful lot about the
web'n'all.  just thought i'd say a quick 'spot-on' and pat on the
back!

love helene

"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky"
kate wolf (1979)

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subject:      re: ghost
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com

          i am not sure if there is such a town, but i believe there
          is a place in minnesota where you can walk across the
          mississippi.

          could be wrong
          towanda

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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: intros, bios, and a suggestion...

>  the "problem" (to some people it isn't a problem, and to some its a
>huge one [those that pay e-mail to e-mail]) is that we reintroduce
>ourselves every 6 months or so. =) new folks have no idea of knowing
>that, but its true.  the www page would have the info ready at any
>given moment

>  any suggestions, thoughts, or volunteers?

i for one would like to say that this is a great idea. i know folks are
excited about the bios that are going out, but inside all i can think is
"oh no, not again." after you've been on the list for a couple of years, it
does get a little old (no slight meant to the new folks, but after a time
you too will agree). sorry chris, but i can't offer any help to the pages'
development, but i do want to offer my support for their creation.

deb

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from:         rmackni@acs.bu.edu
subject:      re: orlando and breaking gender barriers (little igc)

first of all, let me agree wholeheartedly that orlando is a positively
wonderful book, and all those who haven't read it should run out right now
and purchase a copy.  this from a major virginia woolf junkie (i couldn't
believe it when i first heard that ig had done a song all about her -- great
minds think alike! :) ) now, that said, yes, it is also an outstanding movie,
written and directed by sally potter and starring tilda swinton.
also, i agree that ig have contributed greatly to the aforementioned breaking
of the gender barriers.  i sometimes feel like that's the whole point of
joking: "i would've been your sister/ i could've been your brother/ you kissed
me like a soldier/ headed for war/ i'm a dying man and i don't know what for",
and "we were girls in bars/ boys on the town" -- clearly all simagery dealing
with the smudging of the gender lines.  anyway, just my thoughts.
anyone else?

--rachel
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i played the powerless
in too many dark scenes
and i was blessed with a birth and a death
and i guess i just want some say in between
      --ani difranco
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from:         julian knopf <stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk>
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on tue, 2 apr 1996, karen a. vittek wrote:

> so what did i miss?  anything?  has anyone made/gotten a copy of amy's new
> song(s) yet?  or any new stuff by emily?  *crosses fingers*  any new info on

        i didn't know their was any new song(s) please enlighten me !

> j&e!!!  i love this song both because of the themes it covers, the sad story
> of the bookstore owner who got shot that it's based on, and the watch drop

        again please enlighten me about this

jules
p.s. vote for best thing about sotd : finally learning what these songs
are all about ( or not as the case maybe)

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subject:      ig discography, anyone??

hey y'all-

i'm going nuts trying to find my discography.....but i think i've really
lost it this time (the discography that is....i'm still waiting for word on
my mind :)
so could some kind soul out there please please either point me to somewhere
on the web that would have it or mail me a copy??  thanks, and i hope
everyone is having as wonderfully beautiful of a day as we are here in east
texas.......

blue skies and non-existent organizational skills,

cylinda                                "i've got my one life
                            and what's it to amount to if i don't learn how
                                to love you and love myself beside you
                                     mix the gentle and the proud"
                                                                  -- ferron

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subject:      more and more bios

seeing that this has been a popular trend...i decided to be a part of this
madness and conform!  lingering here for a long time, i have finally decided
to contribute a little....hesistating just a bit!
name:  kelly ketter
occupation: student-need i say more, and an employee at blockbuster
music(what a place for a music lover)-don't get suckered out of your money
there!!!!
hobbies: playing guitar, getting torn up from blading and biking in lovely
austin, school, v-ball, soccer, and basketball
where i live?  austin, tx and attending university of texas
major:  pain!  working on pre-med!
pets:  britany spaniel-"sadie"
age: a youngster-18

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from:         "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: bio:(nigc)

okay, i'll go...

name:  jessi owen (no not the track star, there are some slight
differences)
given name:  jessica rachel owen (i only go by jessica at work)
location: seattle, wa
occupation:  intellectual property licensing, student
pets:  the two greatest cats, cypress (he's insane in the membrane) and
raven (i am working with her to get her to say nevermore) last summer i
had nine cats, gwen has two of them now.
age: twenty-two, but my b-day is the 22nd...
fav movie:  pump up the volume or silence of the lambs
fav book:  catch me later on this one....i am not feeling very decisive


-jessi

>

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subject:      intro

never able to hold my tongue on anything ( or my keyboard finger... )... i
simply must add to this...
name: kim fischer ( people call me kim fischer )
sex: f ( for years i thought that meant i was failing... )
age: 34 going on twenty...
married with three children ( all of whom are geniuses )
occupation: l. hazardry... no?... okay - i write articles for an on-line
newspaper... human interest stuff + sports (junior aa hockey )
real occupation: co-dependent- "must fix what's wrong in your life, and my
god, everyone needs me...", full time mom + best friend...
hobbies: life... ig music... this incredible list... hanging out with my
friends...reading ( love mysteries + am a big mary higgens clark fan ) i
write fiction too... mysteries.. one day i'll be published ( or does that go
under the heading "what i hope to accomplish with my life"? ) i am an
animaniacs fan ( love pinky + the brain) in my world, monty python rules...
along with mr. bean and, of course, ellen....i think  gary larson should
never have retired....for recreation, i'm into hiking, swimming, canoeing +
camping.... i'm an outdoors nut. i need a lap top!!!!!! ( how very sad : )
uh... what else?
oh - pets: a dog, a cat, a dwarf rabbit, and one very large closet
tanangled-hanger monster.
education: life... highschool, some college + trades ( welding )....
well... 'nuff already... that's me... but not even close.
peace all... have a great ig day... kim.
<kim fischer>
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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 10:28:26 -0600
reply-to:     kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
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subject:      me bio

okay i'm still fairly new on this list, though some of you wouldn't
believe it because of how often i post, so i'll give a little intro

name:           kristal elaine cain
hometown:       small, hickdom of magnolia, texas. pop. around 1000
for now:        i am a student at texas a&m, mostly b/c i can't afford to
                go elsewhere. i'm seesawing between wildlife and
                anthropology. yeah i know iam a nut
hobbies:        rock climbing, ultimate frisbee, procrastination, gwen we
                are cut from the same cloth, too clique huh?
fav books:      where do i start. i too love tom robbins, he's so funny,
                also like virginia woolf( orlando is good), the chalice
                and the blade is really cool for those interested in alternate views of
                the world. lots, and lots of others, i read alot
fav music:      other than the dynamic duo, melissa ferrick, mm, ani, a
                little band from austin called little sister, k's choice,
                tracy chapman, catie curtis.....are we seeing a trend?
pets:           sadly my complex has a 300 pet deposit and i am rather poor.

wow this has gotten long. well enough for now.
quote for the nazis

i disagree completly with what you say. but i'll defend to the death your
right to say it.

--famous person whos name i've forgotten


-and freedom of speech is fine,
as long as you don't cross the line
so don't move next door
don't pick up any whores and don't show anyone your sores
there will be no white sheets on my block
but my daughter will never marry a black man
---gotta go now
melissa ferrick

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reply-to:     jennifer hall
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subject:      re: meeting may 2

i love the idea of the banner at the uno concert.

how 'bout this??  we get the banner to the uno concert, all sign it, then
give it to a&e?  not too sure what they'd do with it, but i think it would
be great to see all these people who met via the 'net and came and signed
the banner for them?

whadda think?

moo,
- jen hall
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from chousel@grove.ufl.edu, on 4/1/96 9:20 pm:
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hey dan--imo, meeting at the cafe du monde at the end of the day on may 2
is a grreeaatt idea!!  what do the rest of y'all think??

for meeting up at the jazzfest stage on the 2nd & at uno on the 4th:
i'd be happy to make a banner, maybe one that has "folkisgruven" written
across it, with a coupla "moos!" too, like in the corners or something. i
have pretty good "lettering" skills and i like doing that kind of thing,
so it wouldn't be a problem. just a thought. feedback is welcome! and if
anyone else was planning on/wanting to make the banner, no problem there,
either. just let me know!

regarding may 4--*where* and *when* to meet up:  seems like we had 3
ideas floating around earlier:

1)  before the concert--like in a restaurant near uno
2)  at the concert--finding the banner at uno
3)  after the concert--finding the banner at uno, or in a restaurant or
other place outside uno

before the concert:  karrie b. (and i think some other folks) posted an
idea
awhile back:  to meet up in a place near the show (like a restaurant) and
then walk over together...does anyone know of a restaurant-type place near
uno where we could meet? is anyone familiar with this area? i think i
remember some ideas being posted about a month ago. please re-post them!!

at the concert (and after, too):  do most people have "floor"
("orchestra") seats, right in front? i remember a lot of people posting
about
what row their tix are, and it seemed like they were all like rows 9, 11,
18,
19....i'm assuming this is all in the same general area right in front of
the
stage. i'm in row 19, so maybe i could arrange to have the banner off to
the
side of that "floor/orchestra" section--like maybe 20 min before the show
or
something. anyone who wants to meet up then could congregate there. this
would give those people who didn't make it to the "pre-concert" eatery a
chance to meet list-folks. after the concert, we could congregate at the
same
"banner" spot and then maybe all go out together or something...or just
plan to meet at another (or the same?) restaurant near uno.

whew! sorry for just spewing stuff out like that. these are just some
ideas; of course, we could do something completely different!

i guess i'm thinking it would be good to try to reach a consensus on
dan's idea (for may 2, after jazzfest) and on meeting spots on may 4. if
we finalize the *where* and *when* of these "meeting spots", the chances of
us
all getting to meet one another are greater. and i think there's a lot of
interest among some of y'all in doing that! and it'll be lots of fun.

ideas? let's work out a plan!

christine

* and t-shirts, too....we should reach a consensus on that maybe? maybe
have several different options? a lot of great ideas have been tossed out
on that one!

"the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear..."  -- e.s.

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reply-to:     lisa hardaway <lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu>
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from:         lisa hardaway <lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu>
subject:      re: ncaa women's final (vligc)
x-to:         cdsjff@aol.com

          yes!!! i just stared at her the whole time trying to figure
          out what made them so similar. i think it is the eyes,
          cheeks and nose. i kept thinking that i was just imagining
          it because the game just happened to be played in the ig
          geographic region.

          i must interject here "go vols! those are my girls!" i will
          be in an orange haze for a few weeks and happy until next
          season.  it was kind of like christmas...you wait and wait
          and the day arrives and then it is over...and you have wait
          again until next year.  women's final four is like christmas
          in march for me.

          llh

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 11:04:51 -0600
reply-to:     j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
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from:         j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      re: bio:(nigc)
x-to:         "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
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name:  jamie suthard
location:  austin texas
occupation:  student--*sigh*  does anyone have a quarter?
summer occupation:  sandwich artist at subway---never eat there
pets:  one kitty:  whiskers   two lovebirds:  ziggy and andi
age:  19
sun sign:  capricorn    (moon in cancer)
fav movie:  fried green tomatoes  and dead poet's society and nell
fav book: woman warrior and sound and the fury and fried green tomatoes


that's all   *smile*

--jamie

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subject:      re: bio:(nigc)

name:                   trant batey
location:               austin texas
occupation:             computer programmer
real occupation:        actor
hobbies:                volleyball, guitar
vices:                  i talk to much, horse racing


seeya,

trant

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subject:      joking

mmmm.... joking...this song is not my favorite...but, it is *amazing* live
...picture this:  swamp ophelia tour, 4/46/95... band de soleil just
finishes a scorching set....a & e take the stage...all i hear is the
opening strumming to joking...i was in heaven....i mean, this song just
fires the crowd up..they *know* how to start a show...wow...that was also
the night that i got to meet them for the first time ...and, as a personal
side note, the second phone call that my ex-boyfriend and i ever had..he
said "you like ig?  i heard this song once..."  and he played joking on his
guitar over the phone..it was cool...but, alas, we broke up...*sigh*
...it's a nice memory though:)
with dreams of immortality,
maggie
ps xoxo to lynn, lorindigo, phil, fan tour king bert, and, my fortunate one, joe

                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                      &"raise your hands*            maggie e. poulos    &

& raise your hands high* me_poulos@acad.fandm.edu  &

& i said go, go ,go *          bkrbkr@aol.com      &

                      & don't take a seat, don't stand aside*            &
                      & this time don't assume anything *    *           &

                      &         -amy ray                   ~m&f~         &
                      &                      *corroboree*    *           &
                      &   a&e=ig                                         &
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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 12:33:30 -0500
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organization: charles river associates
subject:      re: flames, intros, and tape trades - ig on tapes only
x-to:         kris hotham <k.hotham@ins.gu.edu.au>
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kristina wrote:
>i'll be in on it on one condition - dwayne, you go first. no, really,
i'm
>sincere. i want to know if you are an economist.

ok, i'll bite on this one.

name: harry
occupation :  economist, and an economic and tax consultant at that!
yuck, i know, but i actually really enjoy it.  i saw jessi does ip, so i
know i'm not the only one on this list in this area.
life:  married, one baby, work, music, more work, etc.
music:  along with ig i'm a big fan of -  dar williams, the proclaimers,
sarah mclachlan, billy joel, springsteen, elvis costello,  shawn colvin,
knots & crosses, joan armatrading, xtc, christine lavin, and paula cole,
in no particular order, and others.

on tape trades.  i'm just starting my non-official-release ig collection
and with some help, i now have some of the basic older stuff like
tuesday's child, blue flood, etc. and a couple of concerts from '94.  i'm
looking and hoping for more.  since i am just starting my ig collection,
i'm sure i don't have anything that most of you already have, but i do
have some non-ig stuff that some of you may be interested in trading for,
including billy joel from '95, billy joel/elton john '94, shawn colvin -
live tape, sarah mclachlan - live '92, james taylor from '89, a natalie
merchant interview with some songs of her at the piano from '88, joan
armatrading  -  '83, cat stevens - '71,talking heads - complete stop
making sense - '86, along with springsteen, costello, and others (or
blanks of course).

i'm mostly looking for:
1)  any shows from great woods in mass. any year
2)  concerts with good sound from between 1988 and 1993, i've heard
something about a live from san francisco disc that sounds really good,
does anybody have this?  others?
3) anything else that you may feel is especially good, i'm flexible.

if anyone is interested, please let me know.

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 2 apr 1996 - special issue

before i jump on the bio. bandwagon, krystal (i think it was you...??),
that quote for the nazis you put at the end of your past message was said by
voltaire.  nice one...

ok, now back to me...hehee...:

name: lesley ann yoder (pronounced like lessley...)
nicknames: les, more, toil (as int he cleaning agent....i know, i have wonderful           friends, huh???  sheesh...)
age: 19
occupation: full time student here at ohio wesleyan university, where i also
            work in the library
second occupation: contemplating and observing life
third occupation: constantly reflecting back...
fourth occupation: watching movies and tv........i'm addicted, i'll admit.  but,        hey, it's better than some other things i could be addicted to!!!
favorite bands/singers/musicians: ig (ummm....that was a little obvious..),
        10,000 maniacs (nat. merchant), billy joel, mary chapin carpenter,
        brownie mary, anne e. dechant, tracy chapman, bonnie raitt...the list
        goes on........
favorite ig album:  hmmmmm.....toughy.....1200 curfews is great since it
        embodies most of my favorite ig songs, but the feeling i get when i
        listen to sf, ig, or nis is incomparable......guess that doesn't
        narrow it down too much, huh?  my bad...
major goal(s) in life: oh no, this question already made me stressed out....
        ok, umm....1) not to be stressed, 2) write modern-classics which will
        possibly impact others as so many have impacted me (les crosses fingers)        3) become a renowned calligrapher/drawer, 4) live in my log home in
        the woods near mountains and a river, 5) become fluent in french,
        6) be happy with myself......
        enough of this one....i have too many dammit....
major here at school: double major in french and english (with a concentration
        in creative writing)
sex: femme fatale  (hehee..)
status: single....which i will stay for quite some time as i am still recuperat-        ing from a past relationship....ouchie, lesley was hurt....i'm still
        in search of the bandaid for the soul.............

welp, guess that's about it...
except for the fact that i cannot stress enough how much of a tv/movie addict
i really am....and that i swear i was not meant for this century.........

lesley

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subject:      re: intros, bios, and a suggestion...

hey from small bc coast town, canada...
when was this posted... or was it? i don't recall ever getting it... and am
not sure what the whole thing's about... sounds like a good idea, though...
can anyone further enlighten me?
peace all... kim ( who is just loving to read all these bios and thinks a
site is a natural solution for the "bios?been there done that" posters)

>on  2 apr 96 at 10:30, christopher m. becker wrote:
>
>
>> but it may be possible to do things more gracefully.  on many irc
>> groups i attend (including a #indigo-girls channel) we have
>> established "picture www pages," perhaps we could do something for
>> bios?  there is at least one www goddess i know of on this list
>> (probably more) and to be honest, this project doesn't need a
>> goddess--its fairly easy.
>>
>
>this is a great idea...hope someone picks up on it...i feel a little
>useless in situations like these, not knowing an awful lot about the
>web'n'all.  just thought i'd say a quick 'spot-on' and pat on the
>back!
>
>love helene
>
>"steer clear of the shore,
>the coast is rough and rocky"
>kate wolf (1979)
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reply-to:     j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
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from:         j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      nigc   austin ig fans
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i was thinking that there are a lot of people from the austin area on the
list that might want to get together and have a huge ig party somewhere
in austin sometime in the future.  if anyone thinks this sounds like a
workable idea.....e-mail me privately and we will swap ideas.

going into lurk mode again,

jamie

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                reason for us to hide..."    --amy ray
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subject:      web page

if people are interested in doing the personal bio web page, i could
provide a site and would be willing to compile them and author a page.
actually there are a couple qualifications--because of school, i couldn't
really start until may 1, and i could only guarantee the same site for
another year after that (graduation).  if there is someone who has a more
permanent site, i will still help write the page.  are there any other
takers?

steve

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subject:      jonas & ezekial

  i don't know if i mentioned this in my bio but i have two baby rats named
jonas and ezekial(zekie) and they love that song, whether i'm cranking it
on the stereo or singing it and playing my guitar.
    in reference to the posts i've seen on joking-the song is about
crossing gender lines in relationships...friendship or otherwise. if anyone
has seen the video or watched "watershed" this is a little more clear.
ar talked about this very subject during an interview  in watershed.
               hope that helped!
               sharon

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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      re: bio

name:  jennifer hall
hometown:  currently in tomball, texas (outside houston), but will never
claim houston as my hometown.  recently moved from minneapolis - so i claim
that as my "wish i lived back there" hometown....even though i was born on
long island, ny.
occupation:  technical support engineer with compaq computers.
fav music:  ig, me, k.d. lang, renaissance, bp, pasty cline, tracy chapman,
mozart
fav movie:  fried green tomatoes & funny girl & the godfather series
age:  27
education:  b.s. & m.s. n telecommunications
personal status(?):  married, no kids
pets:  2 cats - callie & reesie and 2 ferrets - spaz & toonces
hobby:  computers (duh), playing guitar, music, backgammon, gin, softball,
volleyball & of course, surfing the net and this list!!!
pet peeve:  people who don't use their blinkers when turning or changing
lanes
dream that will never come true even if i wish really, really hard:  to be
able to sing without my cats meowing and scratching at the front door to be
let out, play guitar like emily, and perform and have music as my life so i
can stop working with computers.
a more immediate dream:  to get off the phone with this guy that want me to
hold his hand as he installs a network card into a pc that isn't designed
for the network using windows 95  !!!!  aaaauuuggghhh !!!!!!!!

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subject:      ncaa

yo!
i think y'all been smokin'!
it never ever ever occurred to me that the mvp looked like either ig!
golly!
i must have been watching too big of a tv hehhehehe
just kidding

i don't like tenn.....but that's personal ;)

yayhoo for all you orange fans.....lucky butts!

laters....
i'll post my bio laters...

hugghugg and hugghuggs
victoria

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subject:      uncle johns band

i have the ig version of uncle johns band on the deadicated cd. i know they
were asked not to do it when the opened for the dead a few years back. but
did they ever perform it live, and does anyone have a tape?

bill

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 11:51:52 -0700
reply-to:     reedv@ziavms.enmu.edu
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from:         reedv@ziavms.enmu.edu
subject:      new mexicans, yo!

hi y'all,
        sorry to bugg the list witha regional thing...
but whoever said something about having an austin party made me
jealous and i think that everyone in nm should get busy too!! ya!
got me?  email moi, 'k?  we'll set somethin' up.....i know there
are a few of y'all out there...don't be shy.  it's not a huge state...
we can do it  ;)
        hey, i am also jealous of austiners 'cause it is such an awesome
city....you guys are so lucky...i live in a town of 12000 people.....guh
all farmers and farmers wives and kids...no offense intended to anyone that
is a farmer or came from such heritage.....but they are very very very
conservative here....it's rough, putting it mildly.
        blah blah blah

love you all
this list rocks
don't stop

i got my way kewl purple parrot boot and it rocks...it's my first boot
ever...i feel so sneaky or something...my friends are literally killing
me to see it...pray for me  :)

loves and mooshies----victoria

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 13:04:17 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      nigc place to live?

i am a first year law student in chicago and by august, i have to
have a general idea of where i want to live for the rest of my life.
i grew up in ohio and have also lived in milwuakee.  since you are
all from around the country i am looking for recommendations of
places to live after i graduate.

i would like someplace warm (i am sick of the snow and sub-zero
temperatures).  i would like to be in a young, hopping city with
an excellent music scene.  i would also like to have easy access
to places where i can hike and take long bike rides.  i do not like
long commutes to work.  finally, on my wish list, i would like a
city that is diverse and socially liberal.

any suggestions?
thanks.
alycia

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subject:      re: bio
in-reply-to:  <vines.acz7+edkmla@bangate.compaq.com>

hmmmm....

name:  alexis brown
hometown:  augsburg, germany.
present place of residence:  baltimore, maryland
occupation:  pitiful excuse for a college student.
education:  high school + 3 years of college.
fave music:  indigo girls...presently stuck on disc 2 of 1200 curfews..,
melissa etheridge, ani difranco, melissa ferrick, tracy chapman, simon
and garfunkel, for real, and many others that invade my soul from time to
time.
fave movie: eep...there's so many.  at the moment mr. hollands opus.  all
time- the princess bride, dead poets society, nell, uh..ace ventura the
first one.
personal status: not married, (well, net.married), no kids.
vices:  this computer...
hobbies:  internet foolery..., trying my hardest to play guitar,
tennis..running my mouth...
pets:  none.  *sigh*
pet peeve:  the gas-pedally challenged...and those in denial about
whether or not they're the "slow traffic" that must keep to the right.

that's the bare bones believe it or not  :)
alexis

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 11:32:49 -0800
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      explaination of new song search, watch drop and bookstore owner,
              j&e

>on tue, 2 apr 1996, karen a. vittek wrote:
>
>> so what did i miss?  anything?  has anyone made/gotten a copy of amy's new
>> song(s) yet?  or any new stuff by emily?  *crosses fingers*  any new info on
>
>        i didn't know their was any new song(s) please enlighten me !

well there aren't really...they've played them in random appearances (like
sxsw) and not together yet, just as solo tryouts...i'm still looking for
lucky copies...

>
>> j&e!!!  i love this song both because of the themes it covers, the sad story
>> of the bookstore owner who got shot that it's based on, and the watch drop
>
>        again please enlighten me about this


the watch drop or the bookstore owner?  at the beginning of the song you'll
hear a clinking clacking sound (so well described too..@@) that is amy
setting her watch down on the music stand.  the quote from the sheet music
book is:

    on rites of passage, the fifth release on epic by the indigo girls, a
song called "jonas & ezekiel" begins with a few seconds of eerie ambient
sound.  "that's cooper seay of the ellen james society, playing a backwards
guitar track," explains the indigos' amy ray, "and me, taking my watch off
and putting it on the music stand before i started singing.  they're almost
accidental sounds, and that's the kind of thing that makes this album
something different for us..."

as to the bookstore owner, i saw an interview somewhere that the person in
the third section (a bullet in the head and now he's dead oh a friend of a
friend someone said he was an activist with a very short life i think
there's a lesson here he died without a fight...) was a bookstore owner that
amy read about that someone had fingered as a native american activist, so
he was shot, and he was really only a bookstore owner after all...but i
can't quite remember the details.  anyone else remember this a little better?


ooh, and my mailer just did something really weird, i apologize if this
shows up twice or in latin or something....

time to send before the daemons eat it...

k

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 13:36:32 -0600
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subject:      bio

i just had to join in on the fun!  i am such a folower (bows head and
continues:
name: jennifer jaffe
born:1/20/77, that makes my 19, in hudson ohio
occupation: full time student at loyola university chicago
summer occupation: landscaper extrodianire
hobbies: soccer fanatic, writing prose, reading anything by john
grisham or mary higgins clark, procrastinating, riding my mountain
bike along lake michigan and hiking in the summer, rock climbing, and
listening to music.
major: psychology.  probably going either pre-med or grad school for
psych.
fav music: indigo girls (given), tracy chapman, jackopierce, odd girl
out, tori amos, brownie mary (any one from pittsburgh out there),
rusted root, enigma...etc..  every once in a while rap and techno.
fav ig song:  love's recovery and love will come to you
pets: 1 cat at home, cannondale or fluffy
aspirations:  to meet ig and to go to fifty more of their shows.  oh
yeah and to magically be able to reschedule finals so that i can go
to the jazz fest!
sign: aquarius and capricorn, take your pick!
fav movie: boys on the side, two girls and the breakfast club oh yeah
and pretty woman
now that i have introduced myself, you all know how big of a bore i
am.  i just thought i could be like eveyone else for once.  i will
re-lurk now!
jj in chicago
"i wish i were a trinity, so that if i lost a part of me, i'd still
have two of the same to live"-emily sailers

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reply-to:     heather coughlin <hac2@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         heather coughlin <hac2@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      rambling bio
in-reply-to:  <pine.ult.3.91.960402140644.13334b-100000@zeus.towson.edu>

since i must procrastinate (physics test today!).....
name: heather coughlin
place of present residence:  arcata, ca
school: humboldt state univ.  (hill and stair univ)
major and minors:  mathematics major, physics and anthropology minors
why math?:  it's cool, one of the best accademic disciplines known to humans.
                (and it's fun to torture my friends when i try to explain
                my homework load.  :)
occupation: student, calc 2 methods enhancer (tutor extrodinair)
hobbies: playing guitar (not ready to play in public), ig listserve lurking,
        music collecting (cds), book reading, rambling, juggling,
        and now bicycling
fav books: the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy trilogy (only the first 4
        books) by douglas adams, and any book by patricia cornwell (awesome
        murder mysteries)
fav movie: anything by mel brooks (except life stinks--it stunk), tank girl,
        boris and natasha
fav food:  the chocolate pudding at the dorm cafeteria (the 'j' for any
        humboldtians out there)  i'm sure it's so full of chemicals and
        preservatives and stuff that my digestive track now has a half-life,
        but it's good stuff.  (i wonder if they've added and addictive drug
        to it...)
fav music:  wide ranging interests  :  i.e. folk to hi-nrg dance (m-people)
pets: tropical fish  (the "think tank")  keep cats away!!!!
age: 20 (21 in oct.)
sign: dip
stupid human trick: existing

thanks for reading.  just wanted to show that i am an individual -- just
like everyone else.   }:-o  "moo"

-heather


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e to the x,  dy  dx
e to the x,  dx
sec, cos, tan, sin
3.14159
yeah calculus!!!!!

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reply-to:     jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
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subject:      intro...  why not? (nigc)

     well, i guess i'll throw myself into the ring and let you all know a
     bit about me.

     name:      jeremy fuksa
     age:       23
     school:    senior - electronic and computer technology - okla. st. u.
     job:       computer systems administrator - osu educ. tv

     stuff:

        i play giutar and sing in an acoustic duo called leadmill
     (temporarily dissolved - the other guy moved to savannah, ga for
     awhile to see if he could find us gigs out there), and am planning to
     open a recording studio here if he doesn't happen to ever come back
     (which could be possible).  hopefully leadmill could be signed by
     daemon records.  that would just be awesome!
        i was first introduced to ig by an ex-girlfriend who really didn't
     seem the ig type, but i'm glad she was 'cause now i'm hooked!
        i pretty much lurk on this list (i read the list at work, so i
     can't take a lot of time to participate...  at least i need to *look*
     like i'm not taking much time! :)  )  anyway, i love to give guitar
     advice on this list and am always interested in getting some ig boots!
     (only have purple parrot...  thanks kelly!!)
        well, that's it from me.  see you around the list!!!


+--------------------------------------------------------+
+ jeremy fuksa - ect senior                              +
+ systems administrator - educational tv                 +
+ http://www.su.okstate.edu/pages/engineering/reznor.htm +
+ http://ectieee.ceat.okstate.edu                        +
+ http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html   +
+ http://www2.okstate.edu/test/reznor.htm                +
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subject:      intro.

okay, i'm giving in .. here we go:

name: joan f. ferguson
i live in somerville ma (a wee bit west o' boston), but i grew up in nothern nj
age: 31 (right now, i feel all 31 years, thank you very much)
partnered with margo for the last 10 years ; we have 2 furry kids (see below)
occupation: librarian at harvard university (cambridge ma), cataloging
really old books in languages i don't read, write or speak :-)
real occupation: dreamer (typical aquarius job, don't you think?)
hobbies: reading just about everying (fantasy is my closet favorite),
travel, music (esp.singer/songwriters (ig, etc), celtic, and classical),
weaving and knitting, anything horse-related.  looking forward to
re-learning piano and guitar soon - thinking of starting the folk harp.
pets: sadie (12 yr. old "just dog"/hound-retriever) and kiwi (4 yr. old siamese)
education: mount holyoke college undergrad ; simmons college for library school

nice to meet you all!  -joan

                      joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
            harvard university library preservation office
"instead of loving your enemies,treat your friends a little better."
                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)

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subject:      (nigc) jackopierce

     i noticed that jennifer jaffe noted jackopeirce as one of her favorite
     groups.  i too am a huge jp fan, and was wondering if anyone happened
     to have jp boots out there?

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+ jeremy fuksa - ect senior                              +
+ systems administrator - educational tv                 +
+ http://www.su.okstate.edu/pages/engineering/reznor.htm +
+ http://ectieee.ceat.okstate.edu                        +
+ http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html   +
+ http://www2.okstate.edu/test/reznor.htm                +
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reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      a list related commentary (was re: flames and intros - nigc)

kris hotham wrote:
>i'll be in on it on one condition - dwayne, you go first. no, really, i'm
>sincere. i want to know if you are an economist.

first of all, i don't want you to think that dwayne is blowing off your
challenge. he is on vacation until next week and is out of email contact
with the list. but i don't quite know why one's profession should
pigeonhole him/her. i'd be interested in knowing the reason for your
question.

anyway, i feel the need to clear the air on something concerning some
recent posts. i'm a little taken by the recent influx of comments like
"warning, warning this contains personal comments"; the "yes, this _will_
have some personal content" comments; the pleas to not have this list turn
into an info only list and what not. if you go back and read dwayne's post
from march 29th he clearly states that we wasn't talking about personal
stories and andecdotes that are related to the music and the group we seem
to hold dear. i don't believe he was talking about intros or other queries
either. i think it's a shame that his words were taken so negatively. he
never said that the sharing of personal stories is inappropriate. how this
great music has affected us _is_ very important and _is_ worth sharing
within this cool little world known as the ig list.

dwayne himself has done so quite eloquently in the years that he has been
subscribed. it was one of his posts sometime ago about the spiritual
qualities of some of their songs that prompted me to swap emails with him
and thus develop a very solid relationship with him. i'm about to tell the
truth here, but dwayne is one of the best friends a person can have. he is
one of the kindest and caring men i have come to know (well, besides you
greg :) ). and when he and i talk (ok kira, we babble :) ), a great deal of
our conversations deal with the effect that music, literature and the arts
have had on our lives and how these things, as robin william's character in
dead poet's society challenged, are helping us to write our own verses.
afterall, that's what life is about.

this list is special. i have meet some great people because of it. i
wouldn't want it to be just "info" orientated either. but i agree with
dwayne, we need to have some restraint. there is room for fun here and
tangents (the infamous m&m debate brings a smile to my face) but really, if
you feel you must "chat" for the sake of "chatting," check out irc or some
of the chat web pages; that's what they are there for ( or do more private
mailings). and yeah, the cross postings and forwarded posts (a few hit over
the past 24hrs) really don't belong here unless they can be tied to causes
that you think there would be interest in. and even then, the wiser thing
to do would be to post something that recaps the cause and ask for folks to
send a private email to you if they are interested in seeing the entire
post and forward it on that way. you may be suprised to find out how few
are interested. some out there in list-land do pay _per_ message and
length, so you'd also be helping contain costs for some. sorry to ruffle
some feathers here, but please remember that when you hit that "send" key,
your message goes out to the last count i'm aware of, 800 folks.

this in no way is meant as a flame, but let's stop with the snide comments.
in addition, this list should be a catylst for thought and a forum for
sharing. but don't let it consume you or direct your life. get comfortable
stepping away from the keyboard for extented periods of time. there is a
world out there that we need to enjoy and that needs our attention. be sure
you're working on writing your own verse. at some point you may be asked to
turn it in.

deb
debbie@mei.com

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date:         tue, 2 apr 1996 16:03:26 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      nigc ty-places to live

just wanted to thank everyone for the suggestions of places to live!!

keep them coming!!!

so far austin, seattle, and atlanta have been suggested.  i'm putting
them on my list of possibilities.

thanks again!!

alycia

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animals and stones, day and night, heat and cold."

                                            - j.d. salinger

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from:         kater@merle.acns.nwu.edu
subject:      no tickets

i was wondering if anyone could tell me how much tickets are for the no
jazzfest and if the evening concert on the 4th is sold out.  i've checked the
web page (not much help) and tried the 800 number for ticketmaster and kept
getting cut off.  sorry for the late request, but i didn't think i was going
to be able to go...but things changed.  thanks a bunch!  btw, in response to
lisa hardaway's comment about the mississippi and minnesota--the headwaters of
the river are in itasca state park.

kate.

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from:         und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu
subject:      why won't amy, blahblahblah

there are only a handful of questions i wouls ask the girls, such as
why doesn't amy play blood and fire anymore?
do they ever get bored playing the same songs _every*single*night_
and have they ever just wanted to climb to the top of a big hill
and let out a big "yawp" for mother nature.....just kidding
but i wouldn't go so far as to demand a chat session with them
if i ever meet them i hope that maybe i'll have a chance to ask them
these questions, but only if i was offered to sit down and chat...
*chuckles* like that is ever gonna happen!
aaaaaaanyway.....
just thought i would post something....i'm still sorting through spring
break's pile up of list mail *sheesh*
partially yours and drowning in a sea of e-mail,
sal-ray
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and stays up until the butt-crack of dawn writing it down......
                                    -tracy fears
p.s. this is my very own quote....this actually happened....
maybe someday i'll post this infamous brainchild, but i'm doing the
backstroke through all this mail.....
*huggers* to everybody and y'all have a grrrreat day =)
my best friend moves back home for good tomorrow!!!!!
yiiiiippppppeeeeee!!!!!!!

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subject:      oh gads...amy is not jesus

no offense, but amy is not jesus....she makes a damn good jesus, and
i lovelovelovelove jcs....but she is not jesus.....
i understand that some people think that she's a wonderful person,
and i can't choose who my fave of the two girls, but....
sheesh, i'm rambling....and i just know i'm gonna get some hate mail
so i'm apologizing for any future offended ones...
i  can certainly relate to amy's songs and most of what she says, but
it is my opinion that she is not jesus...
just my two cents....
sal-ray
y'all have a great day :)

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subject:      mm/bds

hi...i just learned that michelle malone & band de soleil are playing at the
skylight exchange in chapel hill, nc this good friday!  i don't think this
show has been well publicized and michelle hasn't played here in ages, so
please pass the word!  who knows...maybe amy will show up! :) (one can
wishfully think, no?)

edna.

p.s. the new mm/bds disc comes out 6/1...

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subject:      another bio

name- nicholas benjamin slavin(it's an irish trad. to call your sons by
their middle name. if you value your life you won't call me nick:)
location- right now i live in the ever so hoppin' state of arizona where
i go to school. but i'm from that all too famous armpit of america,new
jersey.
occupation- student(which means i except donations)
major- musical theatre/ underwater basket weaving
real occupation- llama circus owner featuring "wiggles" the multi-limbed,
tap dancing llama(he also excepts donations), token campus interpretive
dancer(doesn't your school have one?), male prost......whoops!
favorite band- air supply(just kidding.......or am i)
other groups- the new mongrels, dar williams, ani difranco, catie curtis,
james taylor,van morrison, my new fave joni mitchell,joan baez, the
refreshments, fugazi, husker du
fave classical and theatre composers- stephen schwartz( writer of my two
fav. musicals pippin and godspell), sondheim, william finn(falsettos),
puccini, verdi, debussy, faure and of course mozart
fave movie - *rebecca* - i really don't rate movies but this one is a
clear cut above the rest. i am starting to think the same thing about
"dead man walking"
fave books- anything by jack keroak(esp. the dhrama bums and dr. sax)
            the little prince(sniffle,sniffle)

         sorry for the long bio- and thanks for not pressing the
         'd' button.

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subject:      galileo....hehehehe

i wonder if one took pictures of the sun...would one eventually go blind
as galileo did?
just a silly question......
sal-ray

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subject:      re: a list related commentary (from deb)

hi all,

deb, you quoted the following from me:

>i'll be in on it on one condition - dwayne, you go first. no, really, i'm
>sincere. i want to know if you are an economist.

you then said:

>i don't quite know why one's profession should pidgeonhole him/her.

relax, i am not pidgeonholing anyone or taking the piss out of economists.
it is a play on words. i.e. an 'economist' (besides relating to a profession)
is someone who does not believe in 'waste' - it's a joke. i'm sorry if it
offended you.

also, i don't think we would have taken dwayne's original post negatively
if it wasn't for his use of the word 'crap' (hmmm... wast again. there's some
sort of theme here ... .). i didn't keep the very first post of his but that
is the word he used, isn't it? if he didn't want to  offend or be provocative
he might have chosen his words a little more carefully.o.k.? so i totally
agree with your final point:

>let's stop with the snide comments.

i will if everyone else will.

i didn't realise that there were people who had to pay for all of their
incoming mail. call me naive. but thank you for telling me in a civilised
fashion. i am sure we can understand that this would make 'unnecessary' posts
burdensome for some people. the problem, it seems to me, is - who decides
what constitutes 'necessary'? i think that christopher's idea about the intro'
web page is a great idea - a positive and helpful solution to the problem.

i am wondering - wouldn't digest mode help solve the problem of paying for
incoming mail. or are the digest not counted as one post? i guess that
wouldn't help if you pay according to length. digest does have
the advantage of letting you skim the subject lines quickly though.

well, how did i do? i think i pretty much managed to pull my tongue out
of me cheek for this post. well, alright, not all the way, but mostly.

kris.

p.s. i have actually been lurking around this list for quite a while deb,
and i like you. so don't be upset, o.k.?

~  ^
o  o
  >
  u

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subject:      re: a list related commentary (was re: flames and intros - nigc)

hey deb... i think you did a fine job of stating your case in defense of
dwayne etc ( i sent a private e-mail to him apologizing for reacting the way
i did to his post about "crap and personal ramblings" last week )
>this in no way is meant as a flame, but let's stop with the snide comments.
>in addition, this list should be a catylst for thought and a forum for
>sharing. but don't let it consume you or direct your life. get comfortable
>stepping away from the keyboard for extented periods of time. there is a
>world out there that we need to enjoy and that needs our attention. be
>sure you're working on writing your own verse. at some point you may be
>asked to turn it in.
the list isn't consuming this life... i work out of my home on the computer
+ every now + again i get a "beep" that lets me know i've got e-mail... so i
read it + answer if i feel i want to... i think there are a lot of people
out here who get their list the same way... we'd all like to get comfortable
by stepping away from the keyboard for extended periods of time...
especially those of us with office jobs... of course... we could get fired
for it :- ) but we'd all like to....
anyway....
peace.... kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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grannies... and i am a cat with a very long tail.
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subject:      re: humor: mad cow disease

>
>thought you might enjoy this...moo
>
>
>-jessi
>
>
>----------
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><<file: madcow.wav>>
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subject:      intro (nigc)

my turn!!

name:  kelly woodward
location:  kansas city, kansas
age:  17
hobbies:  dance, soccer, listening to music
favorite books:  ***the bell jar by sylvia plath****, beaches by iris rainer
dart, mrs. dalloway by **virginia woolf**
pets:  3 dogs, a brittney spaniel (mandee), a black lab (jette), and a brand
new jack russell terrier, (ace).

sorry, i'm not too exciting.

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subject:      re: oh gads...amy is not jesus
x-to:         und_tlf@hal.lamar.edu

did i miss something?? who said that amy was jesus?

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subject:      my intro...

name: tracy fears  (internet nick:sal-ray)
from: beaumont, tx a.k.a. "boremont"
school: lamar university a.k.a. "lamer" a.k.a. "harvard-on-the-neches"
major: undecided soon to be communications
i am a fair-weather freshman...(not in school this semester)
pets: 3 rats..yes rats, named emily amy and lilith.....
4 gerbils: shannon, smeepers, shiznit and jumper
aspirations: to travel to states a la kerouac....
mugshot: hazel eyes...dark dark brown hair...the rest is confid!
favorite classes: theater and photography
i'm sure i'd love english lit too,but i haven't taken it yet ;)
favorite books: stranger in a strange land, the catcher in the rye,
odd girls and twilight lovers (a bio of les. life in the past century)

things i do to pass the time: work work work work work work
sleepthismuch work work, listen to ig and other music, but mostly ig
read books, go to clubs, write write write
did i mention i write? ;)
and i have a sick sense of humor.....
sal-ray :)

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subject:      j&e correction!

thanks to the person who sent this to me, i was a little off base, here's
the real version of the bookstore owner story....

k

>from: rebrad@aol.com
>date: tue, 2 apr 1996 14:54:29 -0500
>to: kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu
>subject: j&e
>
>bob sheldon owned internationalist books in chapel hill...he was an active
>anti-war activist (desert shield/storm, at the time) shot alone in his store
>on 2/21/91.  there was no sign of struggle (he wasn't that type), robbery or
>anything.  there are no suspects/ leads.  he carried the ig's indie
>recordings before many record stores did.  he was not a native person...just
>a good supporter of the disenfranchised & underdog.
>
>
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it's not the devil's land you know it's not that kind
every devil i meet becomes a friend of mine
every devil i meet is an angel in disguise

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subject:      dream of ig...god i wish it were real and other stuff

i had the most wonderful dream the other night......
i was having lunch with amy ray and she decided that she wanted to show
me something, so we drove out to the boofunks of the city where the trees
are and she brought me to this hill...we climbed the hill and at the top
i was graced with a vision of pure unadulterated mother nature's best
there was a small lake that had a waterfall feeding into it and a stream
on the other side....i stood there, holding her hand, in total awe...
then just for kicks we decided we were gonna regress and roll down the
hill and then we decided to go swimming with our clothes on...just
to be silly....
then i gave her a wet hug and thanked her for sharing this private
spot with me and she said something about coming there to relax...
*sighs* i woke up crying because i could smell the wet grass and
lake water and hear the birds singing overhead and i've been wanting
to go camping for years....
but alas, i am a worker that must pay her damn bills
but one day soon i'm gonna have my vacation
i'm gonna go camping!
i'm gonna go swimming with my clothes on (maybe not with a.r)
and i'm gonna have fun!

plus: this is really goose-bumpluy
  er...goose-bumply wierd
my mother wouldn't let me go to a high school bonfire one time and
i asked her why....she told me because when she was a freshman she
saw this guy throw a kitten into a bonfire. i looked at her like she
was stupid and said "what are the chances of that happening again?"
then i heard dead man's hill and got some frightful goosebumps
then i heard the *story* behind dead man's hill....
it did happen again...only in another part of the u.s.
i half-jokingly-hald
-nervously wondered if the two cat-killers
were related...
i am so sad at all the evil in this world.....
anyway...sorry for boring you....
i'm gonna go look longingly at my tent and coleman stove *sigh*
*huggers to ya all!*
sal-ray a.k.a. tracy

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subject:      1200 curfews page

someone asked a while ago where the 1200 curfews picture page is....well
it's right here on my machine.  the address is:
http://www.sv.vt.edu/mitchell/indigo/1200curfews/

enjoy

jack
______________________________________________________________________
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106 west eggleston hall      so if i lost a part of me,
virginia tech                i'd still have two of the same to live.
blacksburg, va 24060-0020    but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal...."
phone: (540) 232-6371                        --indigo girls
http://www.sv.vt.edu/mitchell/                 "love's recovery"

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subject:      attn: j a m i e (bio www page)

for some reason, when i try to reply to you over e-mail, it gets
returned.  doesn't recognize the address @southwestern.edu.  could you
write me again and tell me how to e-mail you directly and we will get
this bio page on the go.

steve

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subject:      nigc - more bs (that stands for bumper stickers!)

hullo, all!
      i know, i know... does it ever end?  well, no... i have come here today
to announce that i will be having those "a + e = ig" stickers printed; just
give me a little while to get a "round tuit"... =)  please don't write about
it now, but thanks to all of you who wrote those "interest" notes.  i will
post info soon enough... anyhow, the real reason i'm here is to post the
extras from the last round.  cost is $1.25 per sticker (which includes all of
the postage and such) and i will send these on a first come, first serve
basis.  i have many of some, one of others... here's what's available right
now:
hang up & drive
feminism is the radical notion that women are people
i'm pro-choice and i vote
you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war
the arts are not a luxury
mean people suck
born again pagan
my karma ran over your dogma
jesus is coming- look busy
live simply that others may simply live
come out, come out, wherever you are
towanda!
my other car is a broom
wild women don't get the blues
i'm straight but not narrow
meat is dead
non-sticky clear window sticker- women's symbol

if you're interested, just reply with a list of what you'd like and i'll let
you know if i still have it...  peace, love, and a butter biscuit, sarah

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from:         jenni <rainbow2@iinet.net.au>
subject:      bio

i gotta play too,
name: jenni anderson

location: currently perth, western australia but originally sydney,
               nsw
dob: 21st may 1963 (yes that makes me nearly 33 aggghhh)

occupation: i have my own mobile dog washing, pet clipping, service
                    called rainbow hydrobath and pet care which i
                    love!!

:music; indigo girls, melissa etheridge, kd lang, dwight yoakem,abba

nickname: have a chat ( don't know how i got that!!)

other: i live with my partner linda and our 2 dogs, ben and sampson,
               and our 3 cats, casper, julius, and sascha and 48 tropical fish
               . i love animals, riding my motor bike, music, sports, my friends,
                 this list and the great  people i have met through it.

extra: basically i am areally happy soul who loves life and my place
          in it.

i send my heart felt thanks to the regular posters on this list  and
hope that you will continue to be a light in my day for a long time.
take care,
jenni

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subject:      re: amy is jesus

i think that all this was just a joke and is not to be taken seriously...
you could say that emily is mary m., but that wouldnt sound half as good, now
would it?
(i am the master of sarcasm...)...i dont think that amy is god-like, but she is
jesus (jk!!!)
my 4 cents...
moe(simone)

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subject:      nigc - more bs update

hiya!
      sorry to waste everyone's time again, but i wanted to update the list
of available stickers.  again, $1.25 per sticker.  e-mail me with a list.
first come, first serve.
hang up & drive
wild women don't get the blues
my other car is a broom
towanda!
come out, come out, wherever you are
live simply, that others may simply live
my karma ran over your dogma
mean people suck
born again pagan
the arts are not a luxury
non-sticky clear window sticker - women's symbol

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subject:      re: ncaa women's final (vligc)
x-to:         lisa hardaway <lhardawa@wscgate.wsc.edu>
in-reply-to:  <9603028284.aa828468873@wscgate.wsc.edu>

speaking of vols- are there any other utkers here?? i'd love to meet you
! love,katie ><}}}">

on tue, 2 apr 1996, lisa hardaway wrote:

>           yes!!! i just stared at her the whole time trying to figure
>           out what made them so similar. i think it is the eyes,
>           cheeks and nose. i kept thinking that i was just imagining
>           it because the game just happened to be played in the ig
>           geographic region.
>
>           i must interject here "go vols! those are my girls!" i will
>           be in an orange haze for a few weeks and happy until next
>           season.  it was kind of like christmas...you wait and wait
>           and the day arrives and then it is over...and you have wait
>           again until next year.  women's final four is like christmas
>           in march for me.
>
>           llh
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subject:      who me ?

very pleased to meet you all ( shake hands, rub noses... )

name : amit gandhi ( unfortunately no relation ! )
29 and a bit
occupation : wondering what i'm doing here
where i spend my days : making pretty lights flash on mobile phone exchanges (
"thats never happenned before" )
likes : the film brazil, meusli, wandering in mountains, coasts, the bell jar by
sylvia plath ( another one ),
driving, stopping driving for a cup of tea and a sticky bun, wallace & grommit
annimations ( if you can get them in the states get them ! ), travelling &
getting lost
talents : eerrrrrrr..... i can draw elephants.
location : padova ( italy ), soon somewhere else !  ( otherwise back home to
london )
ambitions : to learn to play the guitar ( any advice on type/makes of guitar
appreciated ),  be happy , ................ not too ambitious !
pisces, size 7.5 shoes, had a pet mosquito ( died of food poisoning ), currently
bad haircut from luigi's ( i was
told "spuntata" meant just a trim ! )
theory on moo : did ig have any british beef last time they were over ?
philosophy on life : do what you want as long as you don't hurt anyone doing it,
simple but it works.

think thats about it, thanks to everyone who kept going on about disappear fear,
got it in a small record shop
here ( thought it was divine intervention it was there )

hope everyone out there's happy, snappy and .......bappy
amit

"!"

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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      bio

ok i'll bite and i will make it short

name:  amy j. putnam
from:  somerville ma (originally frmo nh)
age:  27
occupation:  day job:  sales, what i'd rather do: photography
fave books:  journal of a solitude by may sarton, gender outlaw... by
        kate bornstein, the "dykes to watch out for" comic books
fave movie:  victor/victoria
odd factoid:  i have been on the ig list, in all its incarnations, since
        september, 1990 (yes that is 1990)
music:  mostly acoustic, singer/songwriter types but certianly not limited
to that...i have over 1300 cd's.  particualr favorites (besides ig)
include mary chapin carpenter, patty larkin, cheryl wheeeler, the story,
rory block, altan......the list goes on.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      nigc-a question

  i am new and lost-what is the history of "moo"???? tell me all...
                        sharon

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subject:      yab...yet another bio..

hi all,
       i've been lurking on this list for quite a while but thought i might
pop up my head to get into the bio thang...

name : mark tovey
bday : may 1st, 1971
location : perth, western australia
nickname : big fella
occupation : computer programmer....well, it pays the bills
likes : music (obviously ig, maria mckee, everything but the girl, ig, tori
amos, cyndi lauper, and, ummmm...ig :), sleeping/dreaming, reading,
laughing, anything basketball-related (all-time favourite team...the mighty
perth wildcats),
    travelling (side note....i'll be in the states thru sept. and oct. this
year, so if anyone wants to organise a list meet, that'd be way cool....drop
us an email), coffee (the drink of life :), people, and...ummmm.....movies!!

anything else??...nothing off the top of my head....so i'll just drop back
into the ether  for the time being....thanks to all on the list...you never
fail to make me smile...which is an absolute godsend some days..

take care all

mark t.

p.s...an addition to the bio...
favourite experience : bungy jumping on a picure perfect day in dec '94 in
vegas (what a rush!!)...and seeing ig when they graced us with their
presence last year (concert supreme!)

*************************
                        *                  "o stand, stand at the window
                        *                   as the tears scald and start
mark tovey              *                   you shall love your crooked neighbor
markt@iinet.net.au      *                   with all your crooked heart"
perth,                  *                                                w.h
auden
western australia       *
                        *                   ****  wildcats in '96 !  ****

                        *
*************************  a+e=ig  tori a.  ebtg  mcc  bnc  tmbg  cyndi l.
maria mckee

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subject:      bio

i had to jump on the bio-bandwagon when i saw two ig listers from
somerville, ma and one from harvard u. where i work also.

being an ig fan from their early recordings, it was great to find this
list which is head and shoulders above any of the other music related
lists that i've lurked on.

so i just wanted to delurk to say hi to all (especially the
somervillians) and to affirm my love for ig music which has the ability
to take me places within myself i might not otherwise get to.

jane

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reply-to:     whit kuhn <whit.kuhn@happcontrols.com>
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subject:      bio

hi everyone,


                i've been lurking for about a week thought i would throw out
my bio. so here goes.


name: whit kuhn
from: palatine, illinois
date of birth: june 6, 1967
education: depaul university
occupation: accounting (it can be kinda boring but its a job)
hobbies: music, golf, basketball, softball
music: ig, natalie merchant, elvis costello, old rem, smiths to name a few.
my wife and i are big ig fans.

in reply to moo i could be wrong but its from the intro to galileo from 1200
curfews. amy moos. just listen to it if you have it you will understand.


back to lurking. later


                                        this is my mistake, let me make it good.

                                                rem

whit kuhn
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reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc: everyone in somerville is doing it

so that makes its joan, amy, jane, and me (no not melissa--don't we wish)

mini-bio
--------

name:           chris becker

irc nick:       rubduck (short for "rubber duckie," not for some
                           strange affection toward mallards)

age:            27 (07/29/68)

hometown:       currently teele sq. somerville, ma (see subject)
                originally brookfield, wi (near milwaukee)

occupation:     6th year (ick) graduate student in astrophysics

fun stuff:      music, team sports (esp. basketball and volleyball),
                  skiing (but who has time), reading, and general geeking

music:          mainly the folk/rock thing.  ellis paul, the nields, dar,
                ani, dissapear fear, jon svetkey, gerard mchugh.   the
                beatles did some good stuff here, there and everywhere too.

books:          tom clancy to virginia woolf

secret nigc
fantasies:      1) to graduate
                2) to meet my advisor in a dark alley with a vat
                        of liquid nitrogen...  (i didn't say that =))

                                -- chris (who fondly remembers what
                                           happens when you drop a
                                           a raquetball ball into ln2
                                           and throw it against the wall
                                           *smile*   i really need to
                                           finish.....)


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>in reply to moo i could be wrong but its from the intro to galileo from 1200
>curfews. amy moos. just listen to it if you have it you will understand.

that number again: 1-800-its-emly

deb

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subject:      re: bio

>>in reply to moo i could be wrong but its from the intro to galileo from 1200
>>curfews. amy moos. just listen to it if you have it you will understand.
>
>that number again: 1-800-its-emly

here we go again! the above number is only to be used by those who are hard of
hearing! *poke, prod, jibe* nya nya nya nya nya...it's emily!!

whew! i think my computer keyboard was just taken over by aliens.

and for those of you who have been asking about moo! _yes_, the expression
comes from the galileo intro on 1200c. emily moos.

folkismooven,
lorindigo

driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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subject:      see ya for now...

hi folks...just checking in to check-out...home for easter and not
back until 15th april.  hope y'all have a fabby-dabby week...talk to
you later

love helene

"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

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subject:      signature banner

>how 'bout this??  we get the banner to the uno concert, all sign it, then
>give it to a&e?  not too sure what they'd do with it, but i think it would
>be great to see all these people who met via the 'net and came and signed
>the banner for them?

     we sorta did something like this up in santa fe.  i am a member of the
lesbian avengers and we took over the whole front row at the paolo solari
for the concert.  we all signed two lesbian avenger t-shirts and threw them
up on stage at the end of the show.  amy picked one up and said what a
great group the avengers are and how much we support diversity, etc.
     i don't know what the girls did with the shirts after the show (no
video yet with them wearin' it -> bert).  but the next show i caught was in
phoenix two days later and you can bet i was wearin' my lesbian avenger
shirt to the show. and someone gave me a backstage pass (it was my b-day)
and when i was hanging out backstage in a crowd of people staring at amy in
a daze, she points to me and says "hey lesbian avenger" and we talked about
the ny avengers and how one of her good friends started it up in ny and
blah, blah, blah.... posed for pictures etc.  and i have never taken the
shirt off since   :)


                                --sunny

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subject:      need cash? here it is!
x-to:         y'all@gold.tc.umn.edu, babble@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu

wow...i am really asking for flames here, but i know some of you go
to college, and could really use money, so...here it is...a way to
get some. please pass it on, and give me time to run before you flame
me.

######################################################
hello! i've got some awesome news that i think you need to take two
minutes to read if you have ever thought "how could i make some
serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt,  ready to do
almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
collectors. so grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your
favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting,
exciting find!

let me start by saying that i finally found it! that's right! i found
it!  and i hate get rich quick schemes!! i hate those schemes like
multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams,
900 number scams...  the list goes on forever. i have tried every darn
get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. i somehow got
on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like
'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').   well,
when i was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded
irresistible! i would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95
here, and another $49.95 there.  i had maxed out my new circuit city
card and my visa...i was desperate for money!!  so, i gave them all a
chance but failed at every one of them! maybe they worked for some
people, but not for me.  eventually, i just tossed that junk mail in
the trash when i got the mail.  i recognized it right away.  i can
smell a money scam from a mile away these days,  so i thought.... i
thought i could sniff out a scam easily.  was i wrong!!  ....i love
the internet!!!

   i was scanning thru a newsgroup and saw an article stating to get
cash fast!!  i thought..."here on the internet??  well, i'll just have
to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." the article
described a way to mail a one dollar bill to only five people and make
$50, 0000 in cash within 4 weeks!  well,  the more i thought about it,
the more i became very curious. why?  because of the way it worked and
because it would only cost me five dollars (and five stamps), that's
all i ever pay....ever!!

   ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but
it was possible.  i knew that i could at least get a return of $1,000
or so.  so i did it!! as per the instructions in the article, i mailed
out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics)  a single dollar bill to
each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.
i included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "please add me
to your list."  i then removed the first position name of the five
names listed and moved everyone up one position, and i put my name in
position five of the list.  this is how the money starts rolling in!
i then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
reposted it on as many newsgroups and local bulletin board
message areas that i knew.  i then waited to watch the money come
in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so....
but what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  i
knew what they were as soon as i saw the return addresses from people
all over the world  -most from the u.s., but some from canada, even
some from australia!  i tell you, that was exciting!!  so how much did
i get in total return?  $1000? $5000? not even!!! i received a total
of $23,343!!!  i couldn't believe it!!

   i now have a brand new black acura integra to speak for, due to
this!! now after almost 8 months, i am ready to do it again!!! so
maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, i don't know, but  it
completely depends on you, the individual!  you must follow through
and repost this article everywhere you can think of!  the more
postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your
very own mailbox!!  it's just too easy to pass up!!!

   let's review the reasons why you should do this:  the only cost
factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar
bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (us postal
service mail).  then just simply repost the article (with your name
added) to all the newsgroups and local bbs's you can.  then sit back
and, (ironically), enjoy walking  (you can run if you like! :o  ) down
your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!  we all have
five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with
spectacular realistic returns of $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5
weeks!  so hold off on those lottery numbers for today,
eat at home tonight instead of takeout from mcdonalds and invest five

dollars in this amazing money making system now!!! you can't lose!!

   so how do you do it exactly, you ask?  i have carefully provided
the most detailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily
get this underway and get your cash on its way.  so, are you ready to
make some cash!!!?? here we go!!!

*** the list of names is at the end of this article. ***

ok,  read this carefully.  get a printout of this information, if you
like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed.

instructions:

1.  take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "please add
my name to your list".  this creates a service out of this money
making system and thus making it completely legal.  you are not just
randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a
legitimate service.  make sure you include your name and address.  i
assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  for a neat little
twist, also write what slot their name was in: "you were in slot 3",
just to add a little fun!  this is all about having fun and making
money at the same time!

2.  now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
the five people listed.  the folding of the paper around the bill will
insure its arrival to its recipient. this step is important!!

3.  now listen carefully, here's where you get your money coming to
your mailbox.   look at the list of five people;  remove the first
name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
the list.  position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be 3, 5 will be 4.  now
put your name, address, zipcode and country in position 5, the bottom
position on the list.

4.  now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  give a
catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  such as: "need
fast cash?, here it is!" or "need cash to pay off your debts??",  etc.
and the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the
more money the others on the list will make too.  let's all take care
of each other by being honest and by putting forth 120 percent into
this profitable & amazing system!!! you'll reap the benefits, believe
me!!! set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as
15-20 postings or more!  always have a goal in mind!!!
if you can uue encode the file when uploading,  that will make it
easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
hard drive.  that way they get a copy of the article right on their
computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
the file menu. don't alter the file type, leave it as an ms-dos text
file. the best test is to be able to view this file using microsoft's
notepad for windows 3.x or wordpad for windows '95. if the margins
look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
ends of the sentences, you're in business!

5.  if you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the bbs, or
"post" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file,  tell them
who your internet provider is and people will always be glad to help.
i would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
simple ways to post or upload a file.  just ask for help or look in
the help section for 'posting'. i do know that for gnn, you simply
select 'post' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
choose 'attach', selecting 'uue' and not 'txt', then
choose 'browse' to go look for the file. find your text file cash.txt
and click on it and choose 'ok'.  place a one line statement in the
main body section of the message post screen. something like "download
this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no
paybacks!" or whatever. just make sure it represents its true
feasibility, not something like..."get one million dollars flooding in
your mailbox in two days!"  you'll never get any responses!

6.  and this is the step i like.  just sit back and enjoy life because

cash is on its the way!!  expect to see a little money start to
trickle in around 2 weeks, but at about weeks 3 & 4, the money storm
will hit your mailbox!! all you have to do is take it out of the
mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
realize you hit the big time at last!!

7.  so go pay off your bills and debts and then get that something
special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.   enjoy
life!

8.  now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
this file again; reposting it in the old places where you originally
posted and possibly some new places you now know of.  don't ever lose
this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
cash.  this is an incredible tool that you can always re-use time and
time again when cash is needed!


************************************************************
***************
************************************************************
***************
the names list       the names list      the names list
************************************************************
***************
honesty is what makes this program successful!!!

  1. paul dittrich
1509 trigg lane
wichita falls, tx 76306

  2. george juniel
5000 western ave. #2100
knoxville. tn 37921
usa

  3. jon heifetz
21 raemont rd.
granite springs, ny 10527.

  4.  damion sanchez
671 parkview drive
new richmond, wi  54017
usa

  5.  eric thiel
407 n. story st.
appleton, wi   54914
usa

************************************************************
***************

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reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      the ig list, having a life, and other ramblings (nigc)

hi.

when i was small, my mom used to say "people only get upset about things
or feel attacked ahen they feel like there is a shred of truth (or more
than a shred) when another person insults them"

(taking a deep breath here)

i resent the implication from deb and whoever else might think it that those
of us who post personal stories, etc. need to get more of a life, step away
from the keyboard etc.

when you know nothing about a person's life other than what they chosse to
tell you, on this list, you have no grounds for making that judgment. i knwo
i have a life, and a very good one, as do all of the other "frequent and
not
so frequent" posters to this list. i enjoy this list, read it every day, and
post often. i do not agree that this means i have a warped sense of perspective
about this list or its importance in my life.

i agree, snide comments are not necessary. neither is condescension.

thanks-
susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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from:         steve clark <sclark@cen.com>
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    bill> i have the ig version of uncle johns band on the deadicated
    bill> cd. i know they were asked not to do it when the opened for
    bill> the dead a few years back. but did they ever perform it
    bill> live, and does anyone have a tape?

they performed it at the bogart's show on the $10 tour (cincinnati,
4/13/93), by request of, and with the assistance of, unnamed special
guests from the audience.  i know the show was taped, but
unfortunately the last encore (ujb) was unexpected and tape was no
longer rolling.  doh!

-steve          sclark@cen.com
quit work. make music.

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              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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from:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=syscall2%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      where are we all from statistics

ok.. i've been saving the introduction (yes i'm bored) to tally where we're
all from.  here's the count so far with 30 people reporting:

texas   7
washington state  4
massachusetts  3
maryland / california / australia   2
chicago / illinois / kansas / arizona / oklahoma / florida / michigan /
ohio / new york / oregon   1

come on y'all , let's see if texas keeps the lead !

moo,
- jen hall


p.s.  i really wish a & e would do something.  the things we do on this
list to keep our attention while they're on hiatus....

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on wed, 3 apr 1996, deb reiser wrote:

> >in reply to moo i could be wrong but its from the intro to galileo from 1200
> >curfews. amy moos. just listen to it if you have it you will understand.
>
> that number again: 1-800-its-emly

        ever get that feeling .... !!

jules
>
> deb

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if anyone _actually_ does this, i hope you report back to the list if it
works (or doesn't). that's all i have to say about it. b/c i've never
seen something like that actually work. call me a cynic. *shrug*

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on wed, 3 apr 1996, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:

> wow...i am really asking for flames here, but i know some of you go
> to college, and could really use money, so...here it is...a way to
> get some. please pass it on, and give me time to run before you flame
> me.
>
> ######################################################
> hello! i've got some awesome news that i think you need to take two
> minutes to read if you have ever thought "how could i make some
> serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt,  ready to do
> almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
> collectors. so grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your
> favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting,
> exciting find!
>
>  let me start by saying that i finally found it! that's right! i found
> it!  and i hate get rich quick schemes!! i hate those schemes like
> multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams,
> 900 number scams...  the list goes on forever. i have tried every darn
> get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. i somehow got
> on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like
> 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').   well,
> when i was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded
> irresistible! i would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95
> here, and another $49.95 there.  i had maxed out my new circuit city
> card and my visa...i was desperate for money!!  so, i gave them all a
> chance but failed at every one of them! maybe they worked for some
> people, but not for me.  eventually, i just tossed that junk mail in
> the trash when i got the mail.  i recognized it right away.  i can
> smell a money scam from a mile away these days,  so i thought.... i
> thought i could sniff out a scam easily.  was i wrong!!  ....i love
> the internet!!!
>
>    i was scanning thru a newsgroup and saw an article stating to get
> cash fast!!  i thought..."here on the internet??  well, i'll just have
> to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." the article
> described a way to mail a one dollar bill to only five people and make
> $50, 0000 in cash within 4 weeks!  well,  the more i thought about it,
> the more i became very curious. why?  because of the way it worked and
> because it would only cost me five dollars (and five stamps), that's
> all i ever pay....ever!!
>
>    ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but
> it was possible.  i knew that i could at least get a return of $1,000
> or so.  so i did it!! as per the instructions in the article, i mailed
> out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics)  a single dollar bill to
> each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.
> i included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "please add me
> to your list."  i then removed the first position name of the five
> names listed and moved everyone up one position, and i put my name in
> position five of the list.  this is how the money starts rolling in!
> i then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
> reposted it on as many newsgroups and local bulletin board
> message areas that i knew.  i then waited to watch the money come
> in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so....
> but what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  i
> knew what they were as soon as i saw the return addresses from people
> all over the world  -most from the u.s., but some from canada, even
> some from australia!  i tell you, that was exciting!!  so how much did
> i get in total return?  $1000? $5000? not even!!! i received a total
> of $23,343!!!  i couldn't believe it!!
>
>    i now have a brand new black acura integra to speak for, due to
> this!! now after almost 8 months, i am ready to do it again!!! so
> maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, i don't know, but  it
> completely depends on you, the individual!  you must follow through
> and repost this article everywhere you can think of!  the more
> postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your
> very own mailbox!!  it's just too easy to pass up!!!
>
>    let's review the reasons why you should do this:  the only cost
> factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar
> bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (us postal
> service mail).  then just simply repost the article (with your name
> added) to all the newsgroups and local bbs's you can.  then sit back
> and, (ironically), enjoy walking  (you can run if you like! :o  ) down
> your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!  we all have
> five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with
> spectacular realistic returns of $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5
> weeks!  so hold off on those lottery numbers for today,
> eat at home tonight instead of takeout from mcdonalds and invest five
>
> dollars in this amazing money making system now!!! you can't lose!!
>
>    so how do you do it exactly, you ask?  i have carefully provided
> the most detailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily
> get this underway and get your cash on its way.  so, are you ready to
> make some cash!!!?? here we go!!!
>
> *** the list of names is at the end of this article. ***
>
> ok,  read this carefully.  get a printout of this information, if you
> like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed.
>
> instructions:
>
> 1.  take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "please add
> my name to your list".  this creates a service out of this money
> making system and thus making it completely legal.  you are not just
> randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a
> legitimate service.  make sure you include your name and address.  i
> assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  for a neat little
> twist, also write what slot their name was in: "you were in slot 3",
> just to add a little fun!  this is all about having fun and making
> money at the same time!
>
> 2.  now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
> money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
> the five people listed.  the folding of the paper around the bill will
> insure its arrival to its recipient. this step is important!!
>
> 3.  now listen carefully, here's where you get your money coming to
> your mailbox.   look at the list of five people;  remove the first
> name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
> the list.  position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
> position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be 3, 5 will be 4.  now
> put your name, address, zipcode and country in position 5, the bottom
> position on the list.
>
> 4.  now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
> bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  give a
> catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  such as: "need
> fast cash?, here it is!" or "need cash to pay off your debts??",  etc.
> and the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the
> more money the others on the list will make too.  let's all take care
> of each other by being honest and by putting forth 120 percent into
> this profitable & amazing system!!! you'll reap the benefits, believe
> me!!! set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as
> 15-20 postings or more!  always have a goal in mind!!!
> if you can uue encode the file when uploading,  that will make it
> easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
> hard drive.  that way they get a copy of the article right on their
> computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
> the file menu. don't alter the file type, leave it as an ms-dos text
> file. the best test is to be able to view this file using microsoft's
> notepad for windows 3.x or wordpad for windows '95. if the margins
> look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
> ends of the sentences, you're in business!
>
> 5.  if you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the bbs, or
> "post" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file,  tell them
> who your internet provider is and people will always be glad to help.
> i would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
> internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
> simple ways to post or upload a file.  just ask for help or look in
> the help section for 'posting'. i do know that for gnn, you simply
> select 'post' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
> choose 'attach', selecting 'uue' and not 'txt', then
> choose 'browse' to go look for the file. find your text file cash.txt
> and click on it and choose 'ok'.  place a one line statement in the
> main body section of the message post screen. something like "download
> this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no
> paybacks!" or whatever. just make sure it represents its true
> feasibility, not something like..."get one million dollars flooding in
> your mailbox in two days!"  you'll never get any responses!
>
> 6.  and this is the step i like.  just sit back and enjoy life because
>
> cash is on its the way!!  expect to see a little money start to
> trickle in around 2 weeks, but at about weeks 3 & 4, the money storm
> will hit your mailbox!! all you have to do is take it out of the
> mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
> realize you hit the big time at last!!
>
> 7.  so go pay off your bills and debts and then get that something
> special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
> the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.   enjoy
> life!
>
> 8.  now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
> this file again; reposting it in the old places where you originally
> posted and possibly some new places you now know of.  don't ever lose
> this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
> cash.  this is an incredible tool that you can always re-use time and
> time again when cash is needed!
>
>
>
>
> ************************************************************
> ***************
> ************************************************************
> ***************
> the names list       the names list      the names list
> ************************************************************
> ***************
> honesty is what makes this program successful!!!
>
>   1. paul dittrich
> 1509 trigg lane
> wichita falls, tx 76306
>
>   2. george juniel
> 5000 western ave. #2100
> knoxville. tn 37921
> usa
>
>   3. jon heifetz
> 21 raemont rd.
> granite springs, ny 10527.
>
>   4.  damion sanchez
> 671 parkview drive
> new richmond, wi  54017
> usa
>
>   5.  eric thiel
> 407 n. story st.
> appleton, wi   54914
> usa
>
> ************************************************************
> ***************
>
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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 13:17:56 -0500
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subject:      re: the ig list, having a life, and other ramblings (nigc)

> when i was small, my mom used to say "people only get upset about things
> or feel attacked ahen they feel like there is a shred of truth (or more
> than a shred) when another person insults them."

now wait a minute.  i know i'm new here, and i still agree that people should
continue to post personal stuff, but frankly i find this little quote really
offensive.  to say one only has a right to "get upset" or "feel attacked" from'
an insult when there's a shred of truth is to summarily dismiss all such rea
reactions to ignorant racism, antisemitism, homophobia, whatever.  would i f"get
upset" or "feel attacked" if someone called me a greedy, money-grubbing kike
heeb?  yes.  does that mean there's a "shred of truth" there?  hell no.
sorry to get so antagonistic so new to the list, but denying people the right toto
be offended by these kinds of insults is veeeeery dangerous.
that's all i wanted to say.
      --rachel

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 13:22:37 est
reply-to:     "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
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from:         "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
subject:      bio.. intro... realizing how boring my life really is....
              whatever..

well, i'm giving in, so here it goes:

name:  tamara mizell
age:  20 (but not for long!..  21 on april 6th!)
from:  baton rouge, la
occupation:  perpetual student
majors:  mass communications (advertising) and english (creative writing)
marrital status:  eternally single (at least it looks that way!)
how i (barely) pay the bills:  typist-office worker
hobbies/ambitions:  listening to music, trying to learn to play the guitar and
piano (neither of which i have done yet), being movie-nut, drawing, writing!,
lurking, learning, procrastinating as much as possible on school work, gawking
over nature's beauty, trying to grow spiritually, enjoying the company of
family/friends, emailing like a fool, worrying about finding a decent job when i
finally do graduate, wondering if everyone forgot about the song-a-day thread
because they are agonizing over whether or not to post their bio.... i could go
on...
currently fav. authors:  fannie flagg, anne rice (yep, you heard it right... ),
what can i say?... i don't get to do much leisure reading...
currently fav. books:  fried green tomatoes at the whistlestop cafe (fannie
flagg), to kill a mockingbird (harper lee), both "chicken soup for the soul"
books (jack canfield/mark victor hansen), etc.
favorite music:  everything!!!.... from ig (of course), nanci griffith, tracy
chapman, shawn colvin, etc.... to alanis, melissa etheridge, letters to cleo,
blah blah blah... to frank sinatra (yes..), james taylor, i could list names
forever, but.... "everything" pretty much sums up my musical interest...
fav movies:  wizard of oz, fgt, a river runs through it, too many to name...

i'll stop now, 'cause this already is waaaayyy more than i was going to write...
and you're probably all asleep by now anyway!!  zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!  :o)  see ya!

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subject:      ouch

i see what you are saying, rachel....but i think it was meant pure heartedly

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 13:44:00 -0500
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subject:      delirious emily fan impression :)

okay so i took the day off work so i could read "the great gatsby"
and write a paper on it. but i feel that it is far more important do
perform this impression that i got from my brother after taking
him to an ig concert....you know the one... it's the guy who is just
overcome with "emily adoration" just as she is stating to sing a
really quiet song (in fact i think that there is one on 1200 curfews
...amazing how that guy gets around :)
here goes...ahemmmm.....
(performed with head flung back and eyes rolled towards the sky...)

emilllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!
i looooooooooove yooooooooooooooou !

aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrgggghhhhhh !

thankyou, thankyou very much.
claire :)

"there's a place called "jollity" believe me folks, it's great !"
                                                            vivian stanshall

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 11:28:09 mst
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subject:      amy is jesus...

hey ya'll
i think i am the one that posted this (see subject) originally and i wanted to
clarify.
what i meant is that amy's intensity when singing the role makes her
believable as jesus. everyone that has dabbled in drama knows that
truly good actors become the person whom they are portraying. i was
merely saying that amy convinced me, and i have seen/heard several
versions of the show that never came close to her performance. i
don't really see her as my saviour.
thats all.

jody.

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organization: umich.edu
subject:      re: need cash? here it is!
x-to:         eric d thiel <eric.d.thiel-1@tc.umn.edu>
x-cc:         y'all@gold.tc.umn.edu, babble@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu

can you say "chain letter" kiddies? how about "pyramid scheme"?

these are just as illegal (not to mention annoying) via email as they
are via us postal service. while i won't turn you in, you better hope no
one else does.

l8r,
sascha

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subject:      re: the ig list, having a life, and other ramblings (nigc)

susan wrote:
>i resent the implication from deb and whoever else might think it that those
>of us who post personal stories, etc. need to get more of a life, step away
>from the keyboard etc.

please go back and read what i wrote. i am very much in support of personal
stories that are shared on this list. personal stories and shared
experiences are what have prompted me to develop tight relationships with
other list members. but the common thread to those stories was the music
and poetry of ig. please, let's not forget the name of this list.

in addition, i didn't say that people who post personal stories need to get
a life. why would i say this if i said personal stories (that are ig
related) are cool with me. i simply pointed out that there is more to life
than this list and let's not forget that. that is way, way different that
saying "get a life."

>when you know nothing about a person's life other than what they chosse to
>tell you, on this list, you have no grounds for making that judgment. i knwo
>i have a life, and a very good one, as do all of the other "frequent and not
>so frequent" posters to this list. i enjoy this list, read it every day, and
>post often. i do not agree that this means i have a warped sense of perspective
>about this list or its importance in my life.

a judgement is a statement of value (right/wrong, yes/no), is most times
pointed and is something that can't be supported by fact. i took great care
as to not make any judgements. i didn't say that people who post to the
list have a warped sense of anything. and i didn't claim to know anything
about anyone other than what i wrote about dwayne and our relationship.

it appears to me that you inferred quite a bit from my comments. i think
that's unfortunate (and if you're playing along yes, that would be a
judgement:) ). please re-read what i wrote. i think you will see that i
didn't say what you claim i say.

deb

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 13:55:12 -0600
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subject:      re: need cash? here it is!

so what keeps someone from deleting all the names on the list, adding their name and the names
of four friends, and sending the list on its merry way?

trant

p.s.    this is a pyramid scheme which will always have more loser's than winners.  it is
        probably also illegal, but i'm not a lawyer.

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reply-to:     "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
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from:         "tamara l. mizell" <103660.214@compuserve.com>
subject:      can't we all just get along:  a plea for peace in one
              act......hehe..

act one:

tamara steps from the shadows and says in a calm, yet shaky voice:  "okay folks,
i think it's time to kiss and make up now....  don't ya think?  let's just try
to step into other people's shoes for a while and see things from their
perspective before we start throwing punches.  'k?  try giving the benefit of
the doubt or a personal email to clarify the situation before reacting, please.
this is not a flame toward anyone!!!!!!.... just a request for a cease fire from
a peace-keeper and newbie!!"

----------------                                             the end
------------------

a round of cookies and milk for everybody, :o)

tamara (trying not to sound like she's on a soap box, but realizing why world
peace isn't possible.... we can't even acquire it on this list!!)

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 15:27:05 -0500
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subject:      bio

     hey...

     figured i'd delurk for a moment and add another of these to the list.
     i am enjoying reading those of everyone else :)


     name:          bonnie m edwards

     dob:           may 19, 1970

     origins:       baton rouge, la

     current home:  atlanta, ga  (decatur to be exact)

     profession:    database developer   (anyone need a job in db?)

     education:     bs in computer science from lsu,
                    ms in computer science from univ of georgia

     pets:          4 cats, unfortunately all inside a 2br apt
                    annie, jake, marlee, and pico

     music favs:    ig, dar, cowboy junkies, misc local atlanta,
                    all big band music, baroque classical, alison krauss,
                    lots of country, also getting into rap more lately

     hobbies:       cooking (cajun, mexican, creative), 2-stepping, waltz,
                    tennis, biking, and soon to be sailing (signed up for
                    course in this and am excited :)

     movies:        big woody allen fan (crimes and misdemeaners, manhattan
                    are favs) and the scant creative movies that come out
                    havent seen many lately though...

     books:         not much of a leisure reader but have enjoyed most of
                    the work of milan kundera (unbearable lightness...)

     list status:   perpetual lurker of the past 3 years

     relationship status:    happily dating a great gal  :)

     guess that's it.

     thanks for listening :)

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subject:      ig in 'the advocate"

in the 4/16 issue of "the advocate" is a one column piece on the
g/l awards held in march. the igs are mentioned (one sentence) as
is the movie bots.

"cheers, thanks a lot"

for gays and lesbians, march was one long awards ceremony. first, tv
lesbians jane sibbett, jessica hecht, jenifer lewis, and nora dunn
gathered at the los angeles gay and lesbian community services center's
all-star women's night xiii on march 2 to honor real-life lesbians
the indigo girls and 'essence' executive editor linda villarosa, who,
on receiving her kudos, said "for this i shaved under my arms for the
first time since high school." then, in star-studded bi-coastal events,
the gay and lesbian alliance against defamation (glaad) presented it's
7th annual glaad media awards. on march 7 new yorkers saw a weepy greg
louganis give barbara walters the trophy for excellence in media. in
fact, the olympian was so emotional, walters - who was the first to
interview louganis on his autobiography "breaking the surface" - had to
ask, "are you all right, dear?"

paul reiser, cybill shepard, and david schwimmer joined the party march 10
for glaad's gala los angeles awards, where "boys on the side" took top
honors for outstanding studio film. elsewhere on the trophy list, "nypd
blue" copped the outstanding television series award; "the incredibly
true adventure of two girls in love" won for outstanding independent
film; and outstanding song winner jill sobule finally revealed the
womanly object of her same-sex hit "i kissed a girl." "she's the wife of
a very conservative presidential candidate," said sobule, adding, "goodnight,
pat," to wild applause. of course, drag was de rigueur on both coasts.
back east, the always-fetching rupaul was almost upstaged by the
still-fetching raquel welch, while angelenos heard outstanding album
winner boy george - who sang his latest song, "g.i. josephine," in
combat-drag - hiss at the tuxedo-clad crowd, "you're all so good and
looking normal."


there is one small (3/4" x 3/4") photo of the igs at the awards
ceremony. side view of emily and amy is in the background - but the
photo is cropped so you only see her nose and mouth, no eyes. (i had
to use a magnifying glass to see this much.)

on another note (hopefully, amusing): i had my ig screen saver on
at work and one of my co-workers came up to talk to me. amy was
on the screen at the time and my co-worker asked, "who is that? the
beatles?"

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         wed, 3 apr 1996 12:49:10 -0800
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subject:      color me grey

hey all... i just got a copy of cmg ( thankyou melissa... !!!! many times
over ) am wondering... what's the story behind this? anyone?????? i'm really
enjoying it but havn't a clue...
ah... what else is new? :- )
peace + pondering.... kim.
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subject:      love will come to you

i hope no one forgot that we need to talk about this song today.  it's
one of the first songs that made me a complete fan (i started late).  the
lyrics are so effortless, especially in the chorus and you can totally
feel what she's saying because we've all been there.  the truly genius
thing emily does at the end of the chorus, that she tends to do a lot, is
show us the light at the end of the tunnel.

love will come to you
hoping just because i spoke the words that they're true
as if i've offered up a crytal ball to look through
where there's now one, there will be two.

this is one of my two favorite ig songs.  i always get emotional when i
hear it.  and that ending just makes me want to culr up and die, but in a
good way.  it's beautiful.  ok, i'm done.  sniff

wendell

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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: delirious emily fan impression :)

claire writes:
> i feel that it is far more important do
>perform this impression that i got from my brother after taking
>him to an ig concert....you know the one... it's the guy who is just
>overcome with "emily adoration" just as she is stating to sing a
>really quiet song (in fact i think that there is one on 1200 curfews
>...amazing how that guy gets around :)
>here goes...ahemmmm.....
>(performed with head flung back and eyes rolled towards the sky...)
>
>emilllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!
>i looooooooooove yooooooooooooooou !
>
>aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrgggghhhhhh !
>
>thankyou, thankyou very much.
>claire :)

okay... okay... kim steps forward... "achem.... my impression of  me coming
face to face with either a or e  :

"uhh........................................................................
................... "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
then, ( much later, when a + e have vanished from my general area ) "oh you
dope... aggh you dope... i can't believe it... oh you dope!!!!" ( this would
continue as a speach impediment, getting in the way of any meaningful ig
conversation  for at least six more years..... ).... :- )
uh... thankyou... thanyou very much ( kim now dons a jump suit and lee press
on sideburns, for she thinks she has become elvis.... )
peace y'all.... kim.
<kim fischer>
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i'm actually gonna try it. hell it's only 5 bucks. but if i do make money
does it all come in the form of one dollar bills?
skeptical but daring,
ben

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subject:      song of the day

well i hope other remember that we do have some criteria here, just
kojing you guys. lwcty i among my favorite of em's songs. partially b/c i
feel as if it was written for me. sadly i habe yet to feel loves bite, in
my oh so many years ( iam 19). sad i know, you can all sniffle with me.
but i love her use ofimages here. her word choice ability always
impresses me. well i can't really articulate, or am scared to, what all
this song means and does to me. but i am sure you people can relate
i wish her insight to battle loves blindess
straight from the milk of human kindess
a safe place for all the peices that scatter
learn to pretend theres more than love that matters


damn shes good huh?
kristal

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subject:      bio

ok, here's mine...

name: georg m. petersen
location: kiel, germany
occupation: self employed taxi driver
original occupation: social worker
pets: not now, maybe i soon  live in a place where i could have at
least one maine coon.
age: 35
fav music: almost everyone who has something to say and does it
his/her own way: ig, tom robinson, michelle shocked
the master storytellers: joni mitchell, harry chapin, jim croce
the guitar wizards: jimi hendrix, stevie ray vaughn, michael hedges
the voices that own every audience: judy henske, nina simone, joan
baez, amanda mcbroom
fav books:  there are so many :), jack kerouac: on the road, armistead
maupin: tales of the city, greil marcus: mystery train, andrew vachss:
all burke mysteries, victor hugo, upton sinclair, phil dick...
fav movie: night on earth by jim jarmusch
hobbies: canoeing a silent lake at 4 am and discover how loud eagles
can be, turning living rooms into snake farms (that's what my mother
once commented on my pile of electronic stuff and wires).
bad habits: smoking, cabernet, loud music at night.

b4n, georg
---
got too much of a mind. wouldn't you rather be happy ? - dead kennedys

georg petersen, heintzestrasse 20, d-24582 bordesholm, germany

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subject:      nigs vols!

hey, yes another lady vols here!  kind of hard to believe since i grew up
in the northern city of toledo...but the vols fever hit me even there...i
even traveled 4 hours to see them play in south bend way long ago
throwing up the whole way...but pat summit said hello to me , so it was
worth it.

so i just want to say a congrats to all the lady vols fans out there, (i
just knew they would do it)...and going to school one hour from
lexington, all i hear is uk hoopla...*sigh*

but here is an interesting question, would ig have been for georgia???


mary of the mountain people               krochmalny

"maybe when your rich and famous,
we'll come and exploit  your
wealth." dr teeth

                                     geronimo


                                i believe in coyotes and time
                                        as an abstact...
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in a message dated 96-04-03 15:56:17 est, you write:

>
>i hope no one forgot that we need to talk about this song today.  it's
>one of the first songs that made me a complete fan (i started late).  the
>lyrics are so effortless, especially in the chorus and you can totally
>feel what she's saying because we've all been there.  the truly genius
>thing emily does at the end of the chorus, that she tends to do a lot, is
>show us the light at the end of the tunnel.
>
>love will come to you
>hoping just because i spoke the words that they're true
>as if i've offered up a crytal ball to look through
>where there's now one, there will be two.
>
>this is one of my two favorite ig songs.  i always get emotional when i
>hear it.  and that ending just makes me want to culr up and die, but in a
>good way.  it's beautiful.  ok, i'm done.  sniff
>
>wendell

mee tooo!  i love this song.  it is my fav.
rob

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from:         gianina giammarinaro <gg1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      nigc:bio and...

otay.
i'm really enjoying this bio thing, so i guess i'll join-  although you
all seem to have much more exciting lives, sniff!

but first-  i'm not sure who started the "what kind of pet you would give
a&e" thing, but it was cool.  just a few months ago, my household
acquired a new pet.  a new fish, to be exact.  my roommate rescued a
goldfish from the biochemistry lab at school.  it was in bad shape, and
we nursed her back to health. she named it indigo!  and now she is really
happy, swims like mad, is getting huge! (motherly sigh....)

name: gianina giammarinaro  (means, "i eat ragu extra chunky")
go by:  gia (pronounced geeeeuh) i'll answer to just about anything but
        chia pet.  been done and then some....
occupation: ace #1 lettuce chopper (student coordinator, salads
department for the shool cafeteria)
really, folks:  volunteer, student, loafer, fish nut, plant nut, student.
did i mention student?
major:environmental biology perpetual senior
age: 23
hobbies: falling asleep in the library, listening to music when the
stereo works, hanging out with my 1.5 year old nephew, biking,
camping,watching the rain and hoping that this house in arcata doesn't
get moldy...

well that's it for now.  i think that kim is really smart to post
addendums to her as needed...  hey kim-  are you kids as smart as my
nephew?? :)

oh, i also just wanted to state that i agree with the recent pleas for a
truce.  i have been refraining from recent comment on the present list
war of the year, because it seems to be going too far.  we shouldn't
single people out to be mean to them.  i know that one person took my
"delete button" post personally, even though it wasn't meant that way at
all...  i'm not sure about everyone and i know i'm just a relative
newbie, but i think that this list is just too cool to resort to petty
crossfire. not that i'm saying people are getting petty!!  eek, don't
kill me yet!  i'm just afraid that perhaps some of us are moving in that
direction...  sorry.  enough.  now back to our scheduled ig discussions...

gia

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x-to:         go go gadget metro!!! <eric.d.thiel-1@tc.umn.edu>,
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nice try.
1. multilevel marketing is the way to earn money, ....
if you work with a legit broker. i'm not here to sign anyone up.
2. pyramid schemes are illegal. no matter how you word yours it is a
pyramid>>>>>

3. do you want the federal trade commission to call on you ?????

4. stop sending this crap down you give respectable mlm
businesses a bad name.

5. did you get permission to use circut city's name. i'll forward that one to
our legal department.

nice try

jim
with the lovecats
jph@wwa.com

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subject:      re: love will come to you

ack!!  thanks wendell, for the reminder!!! everyone got so caught up in the
bios and stuff we've let half a day go by without a single post about this
incredible beautiful, simply amazing and prefect song.  seems like some kind
of crime....

i've always felt this was one of the most underrated ig songs.  anyone else
feel this song doesn't get it's due??  i've always thought it's somewhat in
the shadow of ghost by virtue of it being on the same album......once again
emily astounds me with her brilliance for lyrics and imagery
"my words are paper tigers, no match for the predator of pain inside her"

ahhh!! this song is just perfect.  so full of love and hope.  i just can't
help but hear it and feel at peace and think everything's going to be
fine.....well, sorry for the random rambling, but i couldn't let this day
roll by without sharing how much i just love this song.  anyone else?? who's
next?? :)

"learn to pretend there's more than love that matters"

cylinda                                "i've got my one life
                            and what's it to amount to if i don't learn how
                                to love you and love myself beside you
                                     mix the gentle and the proud"
                                                                  -- ferron

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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
organization: charles river associates
subject:      peace, love, and mooo

actually, peace, love, and tapes, but i'll get to that.

first peace.  i agree with tamara that it would be nice if we could move
on from the dwayne thread.  i  know i'm partially to blame as one of the
first to respond to dwayne's first email, which i read as an attack on
the life story/personal messages that had been posted recently.  but his
second, and far more eloquent, email i thought cleared up his view
considerably, and i understand what he was saying.  i think we have well
established that we feel the personal nature of the list is what many of
us like about it, and that these postings are generally agreed to be jsut
fine.  just as i hate to see people feel hesitant to send something
personal for fear that they might be adgitating someone, i'd hate to see
dwayne or anyone else feel like a "pariah" or otherwise distanced.  i
just think its gotten to the point where we're all arguing the same
point.  sorry, this is getting long, so i'll stop.

love.  as in love will come to you.  this is one of my favorite ig songs
even though it seems to be less popular with many other hard-core ig
fans, maybe because it is more radio friendly than most of their
material? i don't get a feel for deeper underlying meaning from this song
that i get from other ig songs, i just think its a lovely song.  i know
the sentiment exactly because i have a close friend who is looking hard
for a connection, and has been through a number of unsuccessful
relationships, and she has on several occasions told me that she just
doesn't think that she's going to find someone.  i try to be as
supportive as i can, but i can never come up with the right words, and i
don't know of any way to help her, even though i really wish i could.  i
really identify with the line "hoping just because i spoke the words that
there true," because there's nothing else i can do but hope.  anyway, i
just think its a beautiful song, full of hope and understanding.

mooo, actually tapes.  i'll just say again that i'm hoping to find people
willing to trade ig tapes for non-ig tapes, as in i have lots of other
musicians (n. merchant/10,000 maniacs, s. mclachlan, s. colvin, b. joel,
etc - and a little melissa ethridge and tori amos - i forgot to mention
last time- and lots of others) and i'm looking to trade for ig tapes.
i've gotten some wonderful offers, but mostly from people who are only
interested in ig tapes, which i have only a few of, so i haven't had much
to offer in exchange.   if anyone wants to talk about it, please email
me.   thanks!  also, i've now nailed down two great woods concerts, so
i'm looking for one more ( i think that's all that's left) which was in
the summer of '92, actually i think it was late may or early june.
thanks again.

peace, love, and mooo,

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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subject:      moo-now i remember...

   yes i have heard the intro to galileo on 1200 curfews but for some
reason didn't put that together with the posts i'd been reading. emily
says moo, though, not amy. i checked.
                         thanks for all the kind responses!
                          sharon(who is no longer confused)

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subject:      re: nigc:bio and...

gia writes:
>well that's it for now.  i think that kim is really smart to post
>addendums to her as needed...  hey kim-  are you kids as smart as my
>nephew?? :)
>
do you mean me?... hey... if someone mentions my kids, i gotta bite :- )
in answer:
i don't know.... does your nephew know every ig song backwards?... well,
does he, huh..huh?... does he?!!!!.... yeah well... so... like.... neither
do my kids :- ).....
ah... but my nine year old daughter loves the girls stuff and her favorite
is  h+n. she sings it at the top of her lungs (  incredibley in key too...
makes me smile * big* )
well... peace and pulitzer winning prodgeny(sp)... kim ( who won't be
winning pulitzers for her spelling anytime soon... )
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subject:      the song of the day!

love will come to you has got to be one of the most amazing songs, imho.
i always seem to forget about it until i enter a phase (about every week
or so) in my life where things just aren't going so well in love (guys =
blah! why do they have the power to drive me berserk?!). i guess that's
what this song is for, eh? my friend and i will just turn it on and sit
on the floor of one of our rooms and sing and laugh and cry together, and
after a period of listening to it over and over, i always come out
feeling better -- though i'm singing it in my head for the next few days!
(today i found myself writing down its lyrics on my philosophy notes :) )
the part of the song that really seems the most amazing is the part where
emily and amy are singing simultaneously two similar parts.. i'm always
closing my eyes, wishing i'm fine, even though i'm not this time.. while
the other one is singing.. and i close my eyes, and wish you fine, even
though i know you're not this time.. (i don't quite have the exact lyrics
handy nor which ig sang which, sorry!) i have a tendency to sing the
first line to myself and wallow in my misery until i somehow snap out of
it! this was rambling, thanks for reading on!

..love will come to you, hoping just because i spoke the words that
they're true..

sarah in a2

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subject:      re: love will come to you
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this song kind of helps take the edge off of being lonely

-heather

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subject:      re: austin meeting

hi all you texans!

i agree with the genereal consensus that meeting sometime after jazz
fest/uno shows would be ideal..

as far as where to meet, there is a very, very cool restaraunt here
in austin, called shady grove. it's outside, has great sandwiches and
wonderful magaritas. on a saturday night there is like a 1 hour
waiting list for a table, but during the wait you can get chips and
salsa and drinks.. plus, at least for me, the wait will be immaterial
since our object is to get together, not necessarily to eat quickly.

i would say we could get together at my apt., but it's teeny tiny
itssy bittssy apt.

i think a restaraunt, and then maybe heading out to hear some music
would be a fun thing to do.

any other thoughts????

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
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we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
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   i love this song...it could be me singing the words(except that i
wouldn't sound half as good) and i get all teary-eyed every time i
hear it...don't i hate being single...
                        sharon

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last cahnce to send in your $$dallor$$

please mail one dallor ($1:00) to:

trant batey
one oh oh dallor street
cache tx, 78$$$

remember, time is running out!!!

p.s.    why go through all the red tape of a chain letter.
        get on top of your own pyramid.

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well, i have seen a lot of people doing these, so i thought i'd take a
chance and post my own.

name: jennifer (jen, jenny, whatever) fontecchio
age: 19 (january 23, 1977)
residence: lisle, illinois (usa)
occupation: uh... student? i'm a sophomore at north central college,
  double majoring in creative writing and marketing. i also work
  part time in the computer lab on campus.
hobbies: theater, singing, playing vampire the masquerade, and going to
  the rocky horror picture show (playing magenta).
fave music: ig (of course), alanis morissette, sarah mclachlan, tori
  amos, violent femmes, live, and most broadway.
fave movie:  interview with the vampire, the rocky horror picture show
fave book:  the stranger by albert camus
pets: a fat, lazy, old female cat named silver
rl status: dating a wonderful guy named steve

that's about it!

peace, love, and light... jen

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this is a kewl idea.

trant

> as far as where to meet, there is a very, very cool restaraunt here
> in austin, called shady grove. it's outside, has great sandwiches and
> wonderful magaritas. on a saturday night there is like a 1 hour
> waiting list for a table, but during the wait you can get chips and
> salsa and drinks.. plus, at least for me, the wait will be immaterial
> since our object is to get together, not necessarily to eat quickly.
>
>
> i think a restaraunt, and then maybe heading out to hear some music
> would be a fun thing to do.
>

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i have to put in my two cents here.  i have always liked this song, but
never really felt any connection tot until last year.  long story short
--- i was desperately in love with one of my friends and was convinced
that she was in love with some guy we knew.  angst!  anyway, as much as i
wished she would love me, i had to keep telling her that i thought they
would be great together and that i didn't see how he couldn't help but
love her etc, etc.  then, one day, i broke down and forced myself to be
honest with her.  i told her how i really felt and, wouldn't you know it,
the silly girl was in love with me!  may will be our first year
anniversary and i am oh so happy.  anyway, that whole bit about telling a
person love will come to them when you want to be the one to give them
love and they don't seem to see it...sigh.  it's all so clear now.
and this bio thing is pretty interesting, so i'll try my hand at it...

name: january lynne simpson

dob: january 16, 1976

origins: washington, d.c.

current home: huntington, wv

profession: student at hanover college

education: sophomore year almost completed

pets: 1 cat, gingerella; 1 dog, daisy mae

music: ig (obviously), disappear fear, mozart, melissa etheridge, tracy
       chapman, techno, disco, kd, sting, the police, lots and lots
       others
hobbies: reading, hiking, being with my friends, studying really hard (oh
   ha), going to wal-mart

movies: silence of the lambs, just about anything with drag queens (i
        love australian films!), fgt (of course), nell, muppet movies,
        jeffery, and my new addition, birdcage.

books: fgt, little women, siddhartha, a prayer for owen meany, tales of
       the city series, color purple & temple of my familiar, illusions,
       winnie the pooh books, the kind of books with words.

list status: relatively new and without too many profound additions

relationship status: blissful, with margaret olivia clifton.

that's all, i have to go to wal-mart now.
january

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now eric admits that is he spamming away, yet continues forth anyway...
*sigh*


at 11:48 am 4/3/96 +0000, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:
>wow...i am really asking for flames here, but i know some of you go
>to college, and could really use money, so...here it is...a way to
>get some. please pass it on, and give me time to run before you flame
>me.
>
>######################################################
>hello! i've got some awesome news that i think you need to take two
>minutes to read if you have ever thought "how could i make some
>serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt,  ready to do
>almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
>collectors. so grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your
>favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting,
>exciting find!
>
> let me start by saying that i finally found it! that's right! i found
>it!  and i hate get rich quick schemes!! i hate those schemes like
>multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams,
>900 number scams...  the list goes on forever. i have tried every darn
>get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. i somehow got
>on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like
>'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').   well,
>when i was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded
>irresistible! i would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95
>here, and another $49.95 there.  i had maxed out my new circuit city
>card and my visa...i was desperate for money!!  so, i gave them all a
>chance but failed at every one of them! maybe they worked for some
>people, but not for me.  eventually, i just tossed that junk mail in
>the trash when i got the mail.  i recognized it right away.  i can
>smell a money scam from a mile away these days,  so i thought.... i
>thought i could sniff out a scam easily.  was i wrong!!  ....i love
>the internet!!!
>
>   i was scanning thru a newsgroup and saw an article stating to get
>cash fast!!  i thought..."here on the internet??  well, i'll just have
>to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." the article
>described a way to mail a one dollar bill to only five people and make
>$50, 0000 in cash within 4 weeks!  well,  the more i thought about it,
>the more i became very curious. why?  because of the way it worked and
>because it would only cost me five dollars (and five stamps), that's
>all i ever pay....ever!!
>
>   ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but
>it was possible.  i knew that i could at least get a return of $1,000
>or so.  so i did it!! as per the instructions in the article, i mailed
>out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics)  a single dollar bill to
>each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.
>i included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "please add me
>to your list."  i then removed the first position name of the five
>names listed and moved everyone up one position, and i put my name in
>position five of the list.  this is how the money starts rolling in!
>i then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
>reposted it on as many newsgroups and local bulletin board
>message areas that i knew.  i then waited to watch the money come
>in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so....
>but what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  i
>knew what they were as soon as i saw the return addresses from people
>all over the world  -most from the u.s., but some from canada, even
>some from australia!  i tell you, that was exciting!!  so how much did
>i get in total return?  $1000? $5000? not even!!! i received a total
>of $23,343!!!  i couldn't believe it!!
>
>   i now have a brand new black acura integra to speak for, due to
>this!! now after almost 8 months, i am ready to do it again!!! so
>maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, i don't know, but  it
>completely depends on you, the individual!  you must follow through
>and repost this article everywhere you can think of!  the more
>postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your
>very own mailbox!!  it's just too easy to pass up!!!
>
>   let's review the reasons why you should do this:  the only cost
>factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar
>bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (us postal
>service mail).  then just simply repost the article (with your name
>added) to all the newsgroups and local bbs's you can.  then sit back
>and, (ironically), enjoy walking  (you can run if you like! :o  ) down
>your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!  we all have
>five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with
>spectacular realistic returns of $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5
>weeks!  so hold off on those lottery numbers for today,
>eat at home tonight instead of takeout from mcdonalds and invest five
>
>dollars in this amazing money making system now!!! you can't lose!!
>
>   so how do you do it exactly, you ask?  i have carefully provided
>the most detailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily
>get this underway and get your cash on its way.  so, are you ready to
>make some cash!!!?? here we go!!!
>
>*** the list of names is at the end of this article. ***
>
>ok,  read this carefully.  get a printout of this information, if you
>like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed.
>
>instructions:
>
>1.  take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "please add
>my name to your list".  this creates a service out of this money
>making system and thus making it completely legal.  you are not just
>randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a
>legitimate service.  make sure you include your name and address.  i
>assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  for a neat little
>twist, also write what slot their name was in: "you were in slot 3",
>just to add a little fun!  this is all about having fun and making
>money at the same time!
>
>2.  now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
>money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
>the five people listed.  the folding of the paper around the bill will
>insure its arrival to its recipient. this step is important!!
>
>3.  now listen carefully, here's where you get your money coming to
>your mailbox.   look at the list of five people;  remove the first
>name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
>the list.  position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
>position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be 3, 5 will be 4.  now
>put your name, address, zipcode and country in position 5, the bottom
>position on the list.
>
>4.  now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
>bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  give a
>catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  such as: "need
>fast cash?, here it is!" or "need cash to pay off your debts??",  etc.
>and the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the
>more money the others on the list will make too.  let's all take care
>of each other by being honest and by putting forth 120 percent into
>this profitable & amazing system!!! you'll reap the benefits, believe
>me!!! set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as
>15-20 postings or more!  always have a goal in mind!!!
>if you can uue encode the file when uploading,  that will make it
>easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
>hard drive.  that way they get a copy of the article right on their
>computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
>the file menu. don't alter the file type, leave it as an ms-dos text
>file. the best test is to be able to view this file using microsoft's
>notepad for windows 3.x or wordpad for windows '95. if the margins
>look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
>ends of the sentences, you're in business!
>
>5.  if you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the bbs, or
>"post" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file,  tell them
>who your internet provider is and people will always be glad to help.
>i would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
>internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
>simple ways to post or upload a file.  just ask for help or look in
>the help section for 'posting'. i do know that for gnn, you simply
>select 'post' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
>choose 'attach', selecting 'uue' and not 'txt', then
>choose 'browse' to go look for the file. find your text file cash.txt
>and click on it and choose 'ok'.  place a one line statement in the
>main body section of the message post screen. something like "download
>this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no
>paybacks!" or whatever. just make sure it represents its true
>feasibility, not something like..."get one million dollars flooding in
>your mailbox in two days!"  you'll never get any responses!
>
>6.  and this is the step i like.  just sit back and enjoy life because
>
>cash is on its the way!!  expect to see a little money start to
>trickle in around 2 weeks, but at about weeks 3 & 4, the money storm
>will hit your mailbox!! all you have to do is take it out of the
>mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
>realize you hit the big time at last!!
>
>7.  so go pay off your bills and debts and then get that something
>special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
>the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.   enjoy
>life!
>
>8.  now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
>this file again; reposting it in the old places where you originally
>posted and possibly some new places you now know of.  don't ever lose
>this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
>cash.  this is an incredible tool that you can always re-use time and
>time again when cash is needed!
>
>
>
>
>************************************************************
>***************
>************************************************************
>***************
>the names list       the names list      the names list
>************************************************************
>***************
>honesty is what makes this program successful!!!
>
>  1. paul dittrich
>1509 trigg lane
>wichita falls, tx 76306
>
>  2. george juniel
>5000 western ave. #2100
>knoxville. tn 37921
>usa
>
>  3. jon heifetz
>21 raemont rd.
>granite springs, ny 10527.
>
>  4.  damion sanchez
>671 parkview drive
>new richmond, wi  54017
>usa
>
>  5.  eric thiel
>407 n. story st.
>appleton, wi   54914
>usa
>
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anyone out there have a bootleg of the concert where lwcty has additional
lyrics?  i read the extra words on the net somewhere, and i was wondering
if anyone had it.  don't know the date, or place.  sorry if this is of no
help at all.  just checking my resources.  thanks!

wendell

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awwww, fine.  or rather, i have many papers to write, and miles to go
before i sleep, etc, so i must procrastinate.  i've been waiting for such
a moment to add my bio to the growing no-longer-invisible population.

name: karey eals (my other given name is katherine, and in 3rd grade i
decided it sounded way more sophisticated, so i was katherine for 4 years,
but now i'm karey again, possibly out of laziness-?)
age: 20 real soon, hard to believe.
place: born in eugene, oregon, but most recently from dc; now in seattle,
the other washington.
occupation: student, and lovin' it, except for that pesky homework
hobbies: acting (am in a woody allen play now called _god_, and am
planning to send him some hate mail [wa, not god]), capoeira (a rad
brazilian martial art type thing), steel drums, writing, reading, riding
the bus alot (i live kinda far from school), being awake at night (as
opposed to in the morning), getting fuzz therapy from my cat dozen (she was
in cage #12 @ the humane society), exploring the free computer services
courtesy of the university of washington.
music: ani, laura love, zona pellucida (a local duo whom i have the
privelege of knowing personally--nya nya nya: someday they'll be famous!)
cowboy junkies bakra bata; but i really belong on this list.  -{a few
months ago i was about to drive some friends home, but we were at my house,
so istepped inside to get some music for the ride.  came back with what i
thought was a variety: sf, nis, and rop.}- :-)
vices: packrat-itis, procras.................tination, milky way dark
ice cream bars, chronic the-grass-is-greener syndrome
goddesses of the literary persuasion: marge piercy, octavia e. butler,
rita mae brown, toni morrison, alice walker
if i had unlimited funds: travel, travel, travel!!! and i'd find the
perfect pair of corduroy overalls.  oh, and world peace, etc.  all that
noble stuff <snicker>  yeh, i'm a big cynic.  but isn't it true that
cynics are just disappointed romantics?  in my case, anyway.
when i grow up (ha!): i want to open a restaurant with bookshelves lining
the walls, dim lighting, good music, poetry/lit readings/discussion
groups, and on the menu will be stuff like a menstrual special (lots of
chocolate and a few kind words), and there would be grrrls-only nights
sometimes.  oh, and i wanna go to in the peace corps for forestry after
kolej.
shalom,
karey

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i'm scot ninnemann, songwriter playing sociology grad student, 168 in dog
years.  when i was little in san diego, i liked to ride my big wheel and
play battlestar galactica.  i once threw my luke skywalker action figure
in the mud, and when i pulled it out, his head was gone.  i never found
it.  it made me sad.  then i moved to minneapolis. i liked it alot except
i was cold all the time (seemed like.)  i live in palo alto, ca now.

i don't like peas.  into dark greens, blues, purples.  my vw jetta
smells funny and all my friends tease me about it.  everybody thinks my
sister's older than me, but she isn't.  i can be tamed rather easily by
genuine, friendly people who bring me tamales or really good bread.

amit gandhi was absolutely right--you all have got to see wallace and
gromit...  you can get "the wrong trousers" ('93 academy award for best
short animated film) at your local target for $8 or so.  a _masterpiece._
hilarious, adorable pseudo-suspense-thriller.  showed it to friends
literally ten times within the month that i bought it.  y'all need this =)
want to see pictures?  http://www.aardman.com/wandg/index.html

that's me.  if you want to hear my songs or read my lyrics, i have a page
at http://tjwww.stanford.edu/scot

take care, y'all.

scot

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subject:      my love has come to me

i haven't written the list about any of the other songs, although i love
them all... i was just waiting for this day. lwcty is probably my
favorite song, and still the one that touches me the most. i can sing the
words in my head and remember how many friends i have comforted with
those very words. for so many years i felt them true for myself, as well.
i have had terrible luck with relationships and have been very unhappy in
the past. i always looked to this song as a bit of hope for what will be,
however immaterial or out of reach it may seem.
        yet on a happier note, i recently met a wonderful man who loves
me dearly and with whom i have been together for two months!! i honestly
think he might be the one... who ever would have thought those words
would come true for me? :)

love, em'ly

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subject:      re: austin meeting

hey, are houston geeks welcome too?  if there are any other houston based
people that'll head to austin, we can car pool.

hey dan, are you buyin'?  < joke...joke!!  ....  well, unless you say 'yes'
>

- jen hall
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from dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>, on 4/3/96 5:50 pm:
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hi all you texans!

i agree with the genereal consensus that meeting sometime after jazz
fest/uno shows would be ideal..

as far as where to meet, there is a very, very cool restaraunt here
in austin, called shady grove. it's outside, has great sandwiches and
wonderful magaritas. on a saturday night there is like a 1 hour
waiting list for a table, but during the wait you can get chips and
salsa and drinks.. plus, at least for me, the wait will be immaterial
since our object is to get together, not necessarily to eat quickly.

i would say we could get together at my apt., but it's teeny tiny
itssy bittssy apt.

i think a restaraunt, and then maybe heading out to hear some music
would be a fun thing to do.

any other thoughts????

peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
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we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
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subject:      re: ig kids :)

in a message dated 96-04-03 18:07:46 est,kim writes:

>ah... but my nine year old daughter loves the girls stuff and her favorite
>is  h+n. she sings it at the top of her lungs (  incredibley in key too...
>makes me smile * big* )

my god daughter, elizabeth(in who's birth i was fortunate
enough to assist, even if that only ment holding her mom's hand and
singing "sunny side of the steet" to lizzy when she was not even a
minute old *brag, brag, puff up w/ pride*), well, she loves ig too !!!
she attended her first ig concert at age six (n*i*s),
and i held her on my shoulders during the rop tour while she swayed,
arms in the air, singing along to "chickenman" (her fav. song).
last fall we walked around the punkin' farm on our annual punkin'
expedition, pointing to the animals and serenading them with
"chickenmanchickenmanchickenmanholdmyhaaand..."
to the chickens..."rabbitmanrabbitmanrabbitmanholdmyhaaaaand.."
to the bunnies, and on down the list. it was fun (chickenman is
"our song" :) she's coming over tonight ! :)
love,
claire ("oma")
elizabeth on "least complicated"..."i really like that song, but what
does 'there's life down belowmelow' mean ?"

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subject:      it's a pooh bio................

name:  tina pelkey
age: 25 (8-16-70)
residence:  boise, idaho
occupation:  interpreter for the federal gov't
hobbies:  movies, reading, writing, good food, good conversation, good
friends, better music, and recently going to the gym.
fave music:  ig's, janis joplin, simon and garfunkel, lisa loeb, natalie
merchant, dar williams, jim croce....
fave movie:  dead poets society, il postino, carrington
fave book:  anything by kingsolver
pets:  big fat cat  named misty           rl status:  single
                       :o) pooh

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subject:      just to let you know

yo kristal, it was voltaire..."i may disagree with what you say, but i will
defend to the death your right to say it."
great quote, by the way... i'm a collector :)
amber (umber)

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subject:      mooin' over miami
x-to:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>

uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh-ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)
rick
(agrees. shhh!!)


hey!! by the way, i finally heard ani difranco today...a song called
"cradle"???? maybe that was it... i love it!!!!!!!!!!!! :) rad!!!
on wed, 3 apr 1996, deb reiser <debbie@mei.com> wrote:
>>in reply to moo i could be wrong but its from the intro to galileo from 1200
>>curfews. amy moos. just listen to it if you have it you will understand.
>
>that number again: 1-800-its-emly
>
>deb
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****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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subject:      re: peace, love, and mooo

:)
peace! please, please, please peace.
right now i'm really loving this list because today has been extremely hard on
me and i left my job believing that human beings are nothing but trouble and
heart ache but now i'm thinking that nothing says loving like mooing emily &
list bios and all the fantastic, wonderful, amazing people on this list! i thank
you all for this. and amy and emily of course.
love will come to you which is certainly my favorite ig song ever, so i can't
really get into the reasons why, because it would take forever. it has found a
place in my heart forever...
moo!
;)
rick
****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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yes!!! i'm all for these ideas, dan & christine!! they sound very cool!!!
isn't it odd how many of us are bunched up in the same place at the may 4th
show????? s p o o k y ! ! !
;)
rick
****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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subject:      lwcty and big bytes

hi all,

i really love lwcty too. i spent 8 years telling my best friend 'lwcty'
and it did - me! ain't life grand? btw i thought it might behoove me as
a relative newbie to respectfully remind everyone of the plight of those
poor souls who have to pay for all of the bytes in their incoming messages
( see deb, i listen ). i can understand the 'oldies' might be nervous about
doing it at this point. so maybe as a meeting of the ways gesture we new
peole could start by for e.g. avoiding including in our replies to things
the whole original message. when i first started using e-mail i didn't
realise that when i hit the 'reply' option my post automatically included
the entire body of the message i was responding to. i'm sure other people
may accidentally do the same thing. i'll be madly working on my thesis
during the upcoming easter break and, yes, staying away from my terminal, so
until we speak again,

peace y'all [ it sounds really funny with an australian accent, you know ].

kris.

^  ^
o  o
  >
  u

p.s. deb has convinced me that we may have been a bit oversensitive about
the dwayne thing. so, i suggest - let it go, let it go, let it go.... .

"his psychic constellation i could never fully recognize
and when i thought i knew him he had changed to someone else".

misunderstandings are really easy in print eh? [ big smile, exuding warmth]

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subject:      autobio

ok, here's my pain-in-the-ass self: it should be an autobiography...(sorry, but
i had to point it out.)
here i am:
i am not herbert!!!  (by the way, if anyone know how to change my email name-im
on compuserve-please let me know!!)- that was my question.
name: simone kerstin huels (its german, dont ask)
nickname(s):primarily moe, other wise everything from spoon to q-tip (again,
dont ask, i have weird friends)
i .live in huntsville, al; was born in wilhelmshave germany (i've been around a
bit, been around-monty p.)
age:17
feel-like 30 (sometimes)
i play guitar
i sing
i read
i think
i go to a small high school
i am often bored with the company i keep (not on the net, here in hsv)
i play (basketball, soccer)
i write
i have a rule to live by (see bottom of mail)
favorite book:any michael crighton(sp?), peter straub, e.e. cummings, etc...
enough already!!!
thank you for your time.
moe

"life is ironic"-moe or alanis

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x-to:         mmedido@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <960403193346_368580002@mail04>; from "mmedido@aol.com" at apr 3,
              96 7:33 pm

> minute old *brag, brag, puff up w/ pride*), well, she loves ig too !!!
> she attended her first ig concert at age six (n*i*s),

she's doing pretty good... attending her first rock and roll show at six.

why do i feel like playing "mystery" right now? ;)

                -- chris

p.s. this child has great taste to pick out chickenman as her fave!

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subject:      very cool news... (kind of igc)

hey all-
i just found out that james taylor went to my school!  (elon college, in
north carolina)  and there's a dormitory called carolina hall, and when
he wrote that song carolina on my mind, he wrote it about a girl he was
thinking about who lived in that dorm!  i don't live in that dorm, buti
thought that it was still pretty cool.  for those of you that have
"tuesday's children", (one of the awesomest displays of ig-dom that i've
ever heard!) i can't belive that ig covered a song that took place at my
school!  whoohooo!!!!  (i am so pathetic!)  well, that's my little story.
fare y'all well,
mandy

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somebody contact the postmaster this is ridiculous, and it makes me insane.

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subject:      moo

i will make a bet with anyone that it is emily. this will be my first
and final posting to this topic. if someone can prove it is not emily i
will be your personal slave and give you my eternal devotion. i will
cook,clean, take care of the kids,quit school, and take on a second job
just to give you a little extra spending money. i am that sure it's emily.
anyone up for the challenge?
ben
*********************************************
*
*   i want to feel pain.....i want to
*   feel sorrow.....and it doesn't make
*   me want to slow down it makes me want to
*   go faster and faster and faster
*   and faster and faster    -amy ray
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i read the book "possessing the secret of joy" last semester and, for all of
you alice walker fans, i loved it.  however, and this is a really odd
question, my friends and i were wondering, are the scars on seal's face
ritualistic scars, much like the ritualistic scarring that took place in
alice walker's book?  and does anyone know where he is originally from?  this
conversation took place when we were all sitting around discussing seal and
his talent and his very beautiful and unique voice.  i am not really a major
fan of his, but can appreciate his music.  and i liked the first album
better.  anyone have any info on seal or is there a mutual alice walker fan
out there anywhere?

karrei
(no, karrie.  i am having typing trouble tonight.)

                                                                                                water


retention is not new to me.....
                         -emily saliers

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subject:      re: moo

well, i can't prove it, but i'm pretty sure it's amy. for that matter, after a
careful listening, it doesn't even sound like "moo" to me -- more like "oo" or
"boo". does anyone agree?
kirsten

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subject:      re: love will come to you
x-to:         wlee@indy1.calarts.edu

ok, i dont normally do this, as i said in my earlier email (yes, i think i am
on an email spree, beware...) but i am going to say somthing personal!

i was driving home from class tonight.  i live in north scottsdale, az which
is a lesser populated suburb of the phoenix area.  its a beautiful night
tonight, and i'm listening to rop...and love will come to you is playing.
the moon is full and illuminating the sky so brightly that i can see the
desert and  mountains that surround the city, and  emily begins to sing...i
had chills on my entire 30 minute drive home...amazing.  i have listened to
ig forever, and each time is like a new beautiful experience.

and of course, i had to run home and tell the only people in the world who
would understand...what would i do without you guys!

well, i am going to sit on the patio and enjoy the moon a little while
longer.  thanks for listening.

love and peace.
jan

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subject:      re: em & amy really are breaking up!
x-to:         d.perkin@access.texas.gov

in a message dated 96-04-01 18:01:09 est, d.perkin@access.texas.gov (dan
perkins) writes:

>ben's been a bad boy! blasphemous ben. by bulleting bogus buzz
>bemoaning beautifull band's bye bye. bad, ben. bad.

yes, i think ben needs to go to "time out" for a few minutes.  go on
ben...five minutes for scaring the hell out of everyone (including me!)

:)

president of the ben fan club,
jan

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ok, i feel compelled to put my bio "on the map"  since i saw arizona is
lacking representation...i think ben and i may be it...anyway...

name:    jan stevens
age:  28
occupation:  account rep @ pagenet of arizona
                   (and full time student at ariz state studying music ed)
hobbies:  while its pretty hard to have hobbies when you work full time
                and go to school full time....i play the saxophone and
guitar,
               taking roadtrips, watching movies, ig listening, reading all
of the cool
                personal stories on the list and loving it (even though i
dont contribute
                my own very much!), more ig listening, hanging out with my
friends                  and family...and bribing homeless people on mill
avenue into                                letting ben play ig on their
guitar (ask ben, he'll explain).

i love amy and emily, just like everyone else on the list.  i've been a
"hardcore" fan since the beginning....can imagine life without their music.
they've been a great inspiration to me all of these years, not only
musically, but on a personal and social level as well.

well, thats it! you guys (oh, i mean "y'all") are great.  i've really enjoyed
my time on the list, and look forward to many years to come!

love and peace,
jan   =)

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subject:      moo

hey...it's moo....definitely.  it fits right in with the whole
conversation....could it be wishful thinking to think it is amy ray? heheh

bio

uh
i think i forgot all the stuff the rest of y'all put in yours...so i
will just make up a format 'k?

name:  victoria lynn reed
from:  washington state
school:  i now live in new mexico because it is waaaaaay cheaper to go to
         school here....and there is sun...but no ocean!!! wahnn
hobbies:  photography, writing poetry, sports....uhmm..a lot of them, though
          don't claim to be good at anything other than baseball and rifle
          marksmanship; weight-lifting, playing sax and clarinet, learning
          guitar....very very very slowly...what's the deal with strings being
          so hard?  dang!  i feel illiterate or something....strings kick my
          butt!
occupation:  student, resident assistant (in a "resident hall"  not a "dorm")
             they are psycho about that here....am i losing ya yet?  i have
             various summer jobs.....cleaning houses, cashiering, painting...
pets:  "we don't allow pets in the residence halls!"  but i have a couple of
        my exroommate's fishies  :)   i want a dog so bad!

other:  my parents are still married, i am christian, i occassionally give-in
        and dye my hair a lighter brown/blonde....i have pretty darnededed short
        hair.....i am 5 foot 7.....played flag football here for the first time
        and my "big bones" came in pretty handy for once.....psych and religion
        double major....eastern new mexico university.....one year left till
        i get my bachelor's in science and then i will move to albuquerque and
        go for my master's in counseling......i have been on an ncaa rifle
        team for 2 years but they just cut our program entirely because the
        football team needs money grrrrrrrr!!! no offense football fans  ;)
        even though rifle was ranked 16th in the nation.....not divisionally
        but nationally...grrrr!  i have issues...big deal! hahahha

well, i have bored at least a few people by now
i love you all
this list rocks
sorry sorry sorry
god loving sorry to step on any toes.....
huggs all around

love,
victoria

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date:         thu, 4 apr 1996 00:17:18 -0500
reply-to:     janinsdale@aol.com
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subject:      re: moo
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in a message dated 96-04-03 23:37:44 est, 0395kchev@umbsky.cc.umb.edu
(kirsten, grrl o' destiny) writes:

>well, i can't prove it, but i'm pretty sure it's amy. for that matter, after
>a
>careful listening, it doesn't even sound like "moo" to me -- more like "oo"
>or
>"boo". does anyone agree?

alright, i didnt want this to get out, but here we go.

it is me who says "moo".  i didnt want to tell you because i wanted you all
to like me for me, not because i am a reincarnate of galileo, but...now the
truth is out.

moo

jan

april 3rd fools!  :)

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subject:      i need help

sorry to bother everyone, but i just had a strong urge to see if anyone
had tuesday's children bootleg, and if anyone was willing to make me a
copy.  also, live in san fransisco, which is probably off limits to make
copies of, but i figured this would be the place to ask.  everyone's been
great so far with the copying.  thanks...y'all.

love, wendell

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subject:      re: need cash? here it is!
x-to:         julie elaine goldman <jgold16@emory.edu>
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my guess is the only people who are going to get money are the five
people on the list, whom i would surmise got together and came up with
this idea, and are probably the only people who will ever be on the list.
let's face it, you send it out to a million people and with a 5% response
rate you still make $50,000. i wouldn't give 'em any more money, but i'd
might try it myself  :). well maybe not...

derek

on wed, 3 apr 1996, julie elaine goldman wrote:

> if anyone _actually_ does this, i hope you report back to the list if it
> works (or doesn't). that's all i have to say about it. b/c i've never
> seen something like that actually work. call me a cynic. *shrug*
>
> #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#
>
>  "some day i'll write a song and tell you how i feel for you"
>        *             *   -michelle malone     *      *          *
>  *            *        *   "counting stars"  *     *        *
>    *        *      *              *        *           *         *
>
> #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#
>
>
> on wed, 3 apr 1996, go go gadget metro!!! wrote:
>
> > wow...i am really asking for flames here, but i know some of you go
> > to college, and could really use money, so...here it is...a way to
> > get some. please pass it on, and give me time to run before you flame
> > me.
> >
> > ######################################################
> > hello! i've got some awesome news that i think you need to take two
> > minutes to read if you have ever thought "how could i make some
> > serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt,  ready to do
> > almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
> > collectors. so grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your
> > favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting,
> > exciting find!
> >
> >  let me start by saying that i finally found it! that's right! i found
> > it!  and i hate get rich quick schemes!! i hate those schemes like
> > multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams,
> > 900 number scams...  the list goes on forever. i have tried every darn
> > get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. i somehow got
> > on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like
> > 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').   well,
> > when i was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded
> > irresistible! i would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95
> > here, and another $49.95 there.  i had maxed out my new circuit city
> > card and my visa...i was desperate for money!!  so, i gave them all a
> > chance but failed at every one of them! maybe they worked for some
> > people, but not for me.  eventually, i just tossed that junk mail in
> > the trash when i got the mail.  i recognized it right away.  i can
> > smell a money scam from a mile away these days,  so i thought.... i
> > thought i could sniff out a scam easily.  was i wrong!!  ....i love
> > the internet!!!
> >
> >    i was scanning thru a newsgroup and saw an article stating to get
> > cash fast!!  i thought..."here on the internet??  well, i'll just have
> > to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." the article
> > described a way to mail a one dollar bill to only five people and make
> > $50, 0000 in cash within 4 weeks!  well,  the more i thought about it,
> > the more i became very curious. why?  because of the way it worked and
> > because it would only cost me five dollars (and five stamps), that's
> > all i ever pay....ever!!
> >
> >    ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but
> > it was possible.  i knew that i could at least get a return of $1,000
> > or so.  so i did it!! as per the instructions in the article, i mailed
> > out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics)  a single dollar bill to
> > each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.
> > i included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "please add me
> > to your list."  i then removed the first position name of the five
> > names listed and moved everyone up one position, and i put my name in
> > position five of the list.  this is how the money starts rolling in!
> > i then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
> > reposted it on as many newsgroups and local bulletin board
> > message areas that i knew.  i then waited to watch the money come
> > in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so....
> > but what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  i
> > knew what they were as soon as i saw the return addresses from people
> > all over the world  -most from the u.s., but some from canada, even
> > some from australia!  i tell you, that was exciting!!  so how much did
> > i get in total return?  $1000? $5000? not even!!! i received a total
> > of $23,343!!!  i couldn't believe it!!
> >
> >    i now have a brand new black acura integra to speak for, due to
> > this!! now after almost 8 months, i am ready to do it again!!! so
> > maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, i don't know, but  it
> > completely depends on you, the individual!  you must follow through
> > and repost this article everywhere you can think of!  the more
> > postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your
> > very own mailbox!!  it's just too easy to pass up!!!
> >
> >    let's review the reasons why you should do this:  the only cost
> > factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar
> > bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (us postal
> > service mail).  then just simply repost the article (with your name
> > added) to all the newsgroups and local bbs's you can.  then sit back
> > and, (ironically), enjoy walking  (you can run if you like! :o  ) down
> > your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!  we all have
> > five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with
> > spectacular realistic returns of $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5
> > weeks!  so hold off on those lottery numbers for today,
> > eat at home tonight instead of takeout from mcdonalds and invest five
> >
> > dollars in this amazing money making system now!!! you can't lose!!
> >
> >    so how do you do it exactly, you ask?  i have carefully provided
> > the most detailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily
> > get this underway and get your cash on its way.  so, are you ready to
> > make some cash!!!?? here we go!!!
> >
> > *** the list of names is at the end of this article. ***
> >
> > ok,  read this carefully.  get a printout of this information, if you
> > like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed.
> >
> > instructions:
> >
> > 1.  take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "please add
> > my name to your list".  this creates a service out of this money
> > making system and thus making it completely legal.  you are not just
> > randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a
> > legitimate service.  make sure you include your name and address.  i
> > assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  for a neat little
> > twist, also write what slot their name was in: "you were in slot 3",
> > just to add a little fun!  this is all about having fun and making
> > money at the same time!
> >
> > 2.  now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
> > money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
> > the five people listed.  the folding of the paper around the bill will
> > insure its arrival to its recipient. this step is important!!
> >
> > 3.  now listen carefully, here's where you get your money coming to
> > your mailbox.   look at the list of five people;  remove the first
> > name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
> > the list.  position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
> > position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be 3, 5 will be 4.  now
> > put your name, address, zipcode and country in position 5, the bottom
> > position on the list.
> >
> > 4.  now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
> > bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  give a
> > catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  such as: "need
> > fast cash?, here it is!" or "need cash to pay off your debts??",  etc.
> > and the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the
> > more money the others on the list will make too.  let's all take care
> > of each other by being honest and by putting forth 120 percent into
> > this profitable & amazing system!!! you'll reap the benefits, believe
> > me!!! set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as
> > 15-20 postings or more!  always have a goal in mind!!!
> > if you can uue encode the file when uploading,  that will make it
> > easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
> > hard drive.  that way they get a copy of the article right on their
> > computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
> > the file menu. don't alter the file type, leave it as an ms-dos text
> > file. the best test is to be able to view this file using microsoft's
> > notepad for windows 3.x or wordpad for windows '95. if the margins
> > look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
> > ends of the sentences, you're in business!
> >
> > 5.  if you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the bbs, or
> > "post" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file,  tell them
> > who your internet provider is and people will always be glad to help.
> > i would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
> > internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
> > simple ways to post or upload a file.  just ask for help or look in
> > the help section for 'posting'. i do know that for gnn, you simply
> > select 'post' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
> > choose 'attach', selecting 'uue' and not 'txt', then
> > choose 'browse' to go look for the file. find your text file cash.txt
> > and click on it and choose 'ok'.  place a one line statement in the
> > main body section of the message post screen. something like "download
> > this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no
> > paybacks!" or whatever. just make sure it represents its true
> > feasibility, not something like..."get one million dollars flooding in
> > your mailbox in two days!"  you'll never get any responses!
> >
> > 6.  and this is the step i like.  just sit back and enjoy life because
> >
> > cash is on its the way!!  expect to see a little money start to
> > trickle in around 2 weeks, but at about weeks 3 & 4, the money storm
> > will hit your mailbox!! all you have to do is take it out of the
> > mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
> > realize you hit the big time at last!!
> >
> > 7.  so go pay off your bills and debts and then get that something
> > special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
> > the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.   enjoy
> > life!
> >
> > 8.  now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
> > this file again; reposting it in the old places where you originally
> > posted and possibly some new places you now know of.  don't ever lose
> > this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
> > cash.  this is an incredible tool that you can always re-use time and
> > time again when cash is needed!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************************************
> > ***************
> > ************************************************************
> > ***************
> > the names list       the names list      the names list
> > ************************************************************
> > ***************
> > honesty is what makes this program successful!!!
> >
> >   1. paul dittrich
> > 1509 trigg lane
> > wichita falls, tx 76306
> >
> >   2. george juniel
> > 5000 western ave. #2100
> > knoxville. tn 37921
> > usa
> >
> >   3. jon heifetz
> > 21 raemont rd.
> > granite springs, ny 10527.
> >
> >   4.  damion sanchez
> > 671 parkview drive
> > new richmond, wi  54017
> > usa
> >
> >   5.  eric thiel
> > 407 n. story st.
> > appleton, wi   54914
> > usa
> >
> > ************************************************************
> > ***************
> >
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reply-to:     "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      re: delirious emily fan impression :)
in-reply-to:  <960403134359_368371795@mail02.mail.aol.com>

        happy spring break from the land o' sleep (i've forgotten how
nice it is...)

        ouch...

        emily adoration is a rather crippling disease.  at the bridge
school benefit back in '94, i was sitting about a zillion yards away at
the shoreline amplitheatre in mountain view (near s.f.) and right after
the first song, i screamed

(eyes rolled up towards the crisp cold night sky)

emillllllllleeeeeeeeeee!!!!!  you're a goddddddddd!!!!!

        a little more than 6mos. later, i'm in monterey watching the
girls headline for the first time and emily's telling a great story about
how she wanted to camp out in front joni mitchell's house and i screamed...
\
(this time eyes closed raised towards the crisp cold afternoon sky)

emiilllleeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!  i'll camp out at your house any timeeeeeeeee!!!

        i've told this story before, i know.  but it was completely out
of character for me (well...anyone who knows me won't agree...i'm
frequently plagued by mary mcdonnell adoration).  at the monterey show,
after i screamed, this girl next to me who was singing out of tune and
the wrong lyrics to every f*cking song turns and says "i'm embarassed by
you and i don't even know you..."  i just turned towards her and said
"that's right...you don't know me..."  and neither does emily, so she
probably thinks i'm psycho, if she heard me at all.  gosh...i hope
there's no restraining order against me when i get to new orleans...

        i call it new kids on the block syndrome...teeny boppers unite.

afflicted,
teri

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reply-to:     jenny finch <castledancers@aristotle.net>
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from:         jenny finch <castledancers@aristotle.net>
subject:      bio, moo, r&j

moo theory: the cow is galileo reincarnated.  moo! is all he can say.  all
his ponderings although not necessarily over, certainly have no voice.

jenny finch, my husband jamez also lurks about occasionally.
currently we are both students at university of arkansas at little rock.
you can probably guess where we live.

i have been listening to ig for many years.  i am very excited about seeing
them for the first time in new orleans!  i can't wait to meet ya'll.

age: 24

don't know where i'm going in life, hope it is everywhere.  i am getting a
passport just in case the opportunity arises.

music: indigo girls, phish, sting, uppity blues women, beatles, blues
traveler , but every day ig

romeo and juliet

the fact that women sing it changes the meaning in a way that reminds me of
a poet sappho.  she wrote a poem to her lover, but a man changed it's
direction.  not that it matters.
love involves a lot of confusion at least to me
this song leaves the question unanswered.

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reply-to:     jamez <jmfinch1@ualr.edu>
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from:         jamez <jmfinch1@ualr.edu>
subject:      s.of t.d.

i was immediately siezed by this song when i first heard it.  the wonder at the
delicate differences due to the change in singer gender. . .
disclaimer:  1st post, hints as to form/etiquette welcome
             i first fell in love with this song @ about 14, listening to
        dire straits (their name has cool meanings, not so much as ig)
. . .always leaves my head filled with spinning thoughts, as do most songs a & e
perform.  i owe my wife thanks, always, for the in depth intro to ig.
                                jamez :\

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reply-to:     drew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
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from:         drew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
subject:      re: intros, bios, and a suggestion...
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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on tue, 2 apr 1996, christopher m. becker wrote:

> but it may be possible to do things more gracefully.  on many irc
> groups i attend (including a #indigo-girls channel) we have
> established "picture www pages," perhaps we could do something for
> bios?  there is at least one www goddess i know of on this list
> (probably more) and to be honest, this project doesn't need a
> goddess--its fairly easy.
>
well, i'm not a www goddess, but i do know html fairly well (check out
http://129.137.76.132/pages/oes/oes-home.html) and have the space for
another few pages... i'd be willing to assist.

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admissions (call 800-827-8728), actor, director, ibm fanatic, documentation
author, single guy, & much, much more! apvlbsb. a+e=ig. try my home page at
"http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"          "the only way out is through."

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from:         amit gandhi <101624.416@compuserve.com>
subject:      re: need cash? here it is!

tuh, now if you really want to get rich quick all you have to do is send me a
dollar, i rub my magic stone ....

sigh !  & peace on the list seconded  ( damn hippies get everywhere : -)  )
amit

ps  on the subject of who "moo-ed", didn't anyone else notice the cow in the
shades and raincoat in the front row ?   mystery solved.

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subject:      re: no jazzfest, money

        stop everything!  i've had a creative moment.  :-)  its been bugging
me ever since those fabulous suggestions put my marks-a-lot idea to shame.
(drum roll please)  a white tee shirt with a mad cow dancing or being insane
with the glasses etc (your personal choice) would be the background on the
front. (always have to be specific - people get lost in words) ok, ok,
ok....(yes i know amy is a vegeterian - don't butcher them - just make happy
nutso cow pictures that look alive)(how do you make an exasperated smiley? :-))
        then overlying the insanity of the bovine would be this:

                            /     \
                    -------          -------
                   /   /|        i    |\   \
                   ==== |        n    | ====
                        | cow    d    |
                        | here   i    |
                        |        g    |
                        |    m o o!   |
                        |        s    |
                        |             |
                        |_____________|

        and! 'i' can still use my indigo blue marks-a-lot to write my
letters.:]  for those who are as artistically challenged as i am here's how
you do the letters:
        suggestion - before you start the project - get all your stuff
together - a cardboard insert, marks-a-lot, paints if needed, cow iron-on,
letter stencils, beer, wine, milk. :)
        #1) put the t-shirt on a cardboard insert or a piece of plywood,
that fits it, so it'll be stretched like when you wear it. lay it on a flat
surface, table, that you can work on with your colors.
        #2) if you are artistic, or you find an iron-on cow, do the cow
artwork before you write the words out.  repeat, do the cow stuff before you
ink it with letters.
        #3) where to place the stuff. hmmm.  start about 3 inches below the
center of the neckline.  draw a rectangle with a pencil - lightly - about
14" x 16".
        #4) again, for the challenged, like me, get letter stencils (cut
outs) and lightly trace them onto the t-shirt (in pencil)- that way you can
be sure to get it all even. don't go too far down the shirt - the moo! part
should be just below center line - then arrange the indigos letters to fit.
i plan on using 1-1/2" to 2" letters for the indigs, and depending on how it
looks i might make the moo! in 3-1/2" to 4" letters. (yes the o in indigos
will be bigger than the rest of the indigos letters)
        #5) when you feel satisfied with your layout - take the marks-a-lot
and fill in the letters.  don't worry about any light pencil marks - no one
will notice them. ;-}
if you feel really artistic by this time and the marks-a-lot just won't
fulfill your creative needs then hit the local art supply house and buy some
waterproof paints for writing on t-shirts - indigo blue for the letters.
(brushes - don't forget the stinkin' brushes - oh and something to get paint
stains off the table, carpet, whatever) 8-)
        note:  this way every one can express themselves individually with
the mad cow thought process being representative of self but we'll be sort
of in sync by all having the indigo/moo! overlying it. (see jen - i've been
a-thinkin' on it for a bit) if you don't want a cow - skip it - just ink in
the letters.  then we'll all be able to recognize each other but still not
be clones - capiche? (texas term we all don't say)
and if y'all really want to get into it - put your email address on the back
of it.
        any questions?  didn't think so.  all votes in favor are just
assumed, any not will have to be sent to the list or me.  thank you, thank
you, thank you.

yours almost moo!ing,

karen

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reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
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subject:      fwd: looking for rape victims (obviously nigc)

hello, all!
      sorry to forward this to everyone and his or her mother, but i thought
it might be the easiest way to do it... sorry to take up more space with nigc
stuff.  peace, love, and happiness, sarah

>>an abc news researcher posted a message on women's wire looking for women
>> who may have been assaulted under the influence of the drug rohypnol
>> (also known as roche or roofies).  please contact her via e-mail :
>> tullinh@ccabc.com or by phone at (212) 456-6344. this request is
>> legitimate .... i called abc just now and talked to one of the
>> researchers. she answered the phone with "20/20" .... i was impressed!
>> she and i both hope we cannot help her; i.e., we have no one here who fits

>> the profile. if you can spread the word -- mostly high school and college
age
>> women -- please do. abc really wants to do this story.
>> betsy wheeler, women's wire
>> 202620,1122@compuserve


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forwarded message:
from:   dk064172@sjuphil.sju.edu (donna kelly)
to:     an058021@sjuphil.sju.edu (amy nixon), owens@sjuphil.sju.edu (caroline
owens), sanawike1@aol.com (sarah wiegmann), jd211382@wcupa.edu (jenn
donahue), piglet96@aol.com (steph morley)
date: 96-04-03 10:46:20 est

hmmm...yes, a frightfully cheery subject, i know, but maybe one of you
ladies has a friend of a friend who can help this person out.

love, etc.,

donna


forwarded message:
> from gschofie@astro.ocis.temple.edu tue apr  2 23:44:44 1996
> date: tue, 2 apr 1996 23:49:44 -0500 (est)
> from: george schofield <gschofie@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> to: donna kelly <dk064172@sjuphil.sju.edu>
> subject: fwd: looking for rape victims (fwd)
> message-id:
<pine.bsd.3.91.960402234540.15427a-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> mime-version: 1.0
> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> howdy!
>
>       my sister forwarded me this because she thought i might be in a
> position either to know someone that this has happened to, or could pass
> it along.  since i am not in that position, i'm passing it along.
>
>                                       chip
>
> p.s.  i'll chat agian soon, with better news.
>
> ...................
>
> an abc news researcher posted a message on women's wire looking for women
>
> who may have been assaulted under the influence of the drug rohypnol
> (also
>
> known as roche or roofies).  please contact her via e-mail :
>
> tullinh@ccabc.com or by phone at (212) 456-6344. this request is
>
> legitimate .... i called abc just now and talked to one of the
>
> researchers. she answered the phone with "20/20" .... i was impressed!
> she
>
> and i both hope we cannot help her; i.e., we have no one here who fits
> the
>
> profile. if you can spread the word -- mostly high school and college age
>
> women -- please do. abc really wants to do this story.
>
>
>
> betsy wheeler, women's wire
>
> 202620,1122@compuserve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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hi all:
        just a note to inform everyone that i've met here on the friendly list
that i can't really handle all of this mail right now, and i'll be re-joining
perhaps after my last semester here at rutgers is over!
        you've all been really nice and the conversations were interesting,
but just though i'd let you know that i have to say goodbye for now.
        until next time.

janis
(acrobat@eden.rutgers.edu)

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 3 apr 1996

hey, who was the one writing asking for boots of ig for trade???  whoever it
was, please write me!!  i'm definitely interested......especially in natalie
merchant and billy joel.  who else do you have?  anyway, just write me
personally and let me know, whoever you are (sorry i'm having a temporary --i
hope!-- brain lapse),

lesley

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subject:      hello

hi everyone,

yes, the indogo girls do have some fans in ireland. actually, does anybody
know when they plan to come back for another concert??

anyway, here goes..

name:   bernadette guinan
from: dublin, ireland
occupation: software engineer( i really want to be a free spirit!)
music: varied, peter gabriel, tom waits, joni mitchell...and of course ig's!
hobbies: playing guitar - classical lessons and other stuff as well, singing
                 badly, swimming, cycling and bad poetry.......
pets: one cat female, i hope she never gets set on fire!

thats it
moo
bernie

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| aldiscon ltd.,     |                            |
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erupted when the serfs suddenly realised that the tsar and the czar were
the same person......"
                        woddy allen

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subject:      r&j

"romeo and juliet"
i heard the ar version of this song before knopflers.
i really like to listen to knopflers first then ray's.

i like both versions...they both of very different interpretations.
in knopflers, the narrator seems resigned to the way things
turned out and sings about it in a very bittersweet understated
manner.
where ray's interpretation is a raging "spill your guts" howl at
the moon reading of the verse...passsionate..[ar's trademark.]
reminds me of a song called "tomcat goodbye" by the great
l. nyro which has that same kind of passion over a lost love
but taken a step further to the homicidal -" i'm goin' to the
country, gonna buy some land, i'm goin to the country gonna kill
my lover man gonna kill my lover gonna kill my lover
gonna kill my lover gonna kill..... my.... lover...........man."
that definitely takes the spurned lover concept to an extreme but
the passionate rendering is the same.

"julie, when we made love you used to cry, you said i love
you like the stars above, gonna love you 'till i die.."

ray practicly sobs those words out...positvely gives me chills.
as for the verse..i've been there before mmm hmmm...it really
sucks.

although i fully support the writing of songs in a non-gender specific
way, it also does me a lot of good to hear a female type person
sing "julie, i'm so in love, so in.......".

claire(here at evergreen, sharing is not only incouraged..it's required)

"he stretched his arms out toward the dark water in a curious way,
and as far as i was from him i could have sworn he was trembling. "
                                     f. scott fitzgerald -"the great gatsby"

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subject:      i'm with wendell

howdy, i would *absolutely love* one of those copies that wendell has
requested: tuesday's children for sure.  i'm just beginning my boot
collection, and i guess this is a good way to start.
i was a lone ig fan where i grew up (saudi arabia) and although i've been
die-hard ig ever since i began listening to music, i don't have  good
collectioon!

all help is most greatly appreciated!
amber (umber)

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subject:      re: intros, bios, and a suggestion...

>>, this project doesn't need a goddess--its fairly easy.
drew writes:
>well, i'm not a www goddess, but i do know html fairly well (check out
>http://129.137.76.132/pages/oes/oes-home.html) and have the space for
>another few pages... i'd be willing to assist.
in my books, anyone willing to assist on this project is a goddess ( or
god...depending entirely... )
just had to add my .02 to the list... wish wish wish i had time + web site
accessibility... i'd be all over this project... very cool... time consuming
for the person who's doing it... putting everything into html...
well... good day to all... + peace in a big way..
kim.
<kim fischer>
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subject:      request billy pilgrim chords

if anybody has any billy pligrim chords that they would share with me ..then
please send them...thank you josh

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subject:      r&j day

hey all...
i've got to agree with claire... amy's rendering of this song is far and
above any other's interpretation of it. the first time i heard it was on a
dire straits tape back in 88 or 89...i'm a dire straits fan (at least of
the sultans of swing ) and i liked r&j when i heard it by them, but woe...
amy brought it to life for me. ( only just heard her sing it about a month
back ).  i actually feel i understand the lyrics better + can relate to them
better because of the way she colored them. amy's version reminds me a lot
of me's song "watching you"... same incredible soul stripping, gut wrenching
angst.... chills here... good  "i can relate" chills.... can you tell i love
this version of the song? i am so glad i discovered ig + their music.
peace all... kim.
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subject:      re: need cash? here it is!

>ps  on the subject of who "moo-ed", didn't anyone else notice the cow in >the
>shades and raincoat in the front row ?   mystery solved.

you know... that cow gets around... i'd swear i saw it being catipulted from
a castle in monty python's search for the holy grail....
"moooooooo!!!!!!"
shocking way to treat a loyal ig fan, i'd say.
peace + gentle milking hands that belong to a vegitarian....
kim
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from:         jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
subject:      tuesday's children

     i too am trying to build up a boot collection and am interested in
     tuesday's children.  if a tape tree gets started, i want to be on!
     (i'm a libra btw)  even if no tree gets started, hopefully a kind soul
     might contact me? :)

     later all,
+--------------------------------------------------------+
+ jeremy fuksa - ect senior                              +
+ systems administrator - educational tv                 +
+ http://www.su.okstate.edu/pages/engineering/reznor.htm +
+ http://ectieee.ceat.okstate.edu                        +
+ http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html   +
+ http://www2.okstate.edu/test/reznor.htm                +
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from:         michael valenta <zzvalentam@winthrop.edu>
subject:      re: bio

name:  michael valenta
ig fan since:  1988ish
# of ig concerts attended:  2 (1992 & 1994)
hometown:  columbia, sc
occupation: student; research analyst (computer stats programming, etc.),
layout & assistant editor for student literary/art publication.
education:  senior psychology and philosophy & religious studies double
major at winthrop university, rock hill, sc (just below charlotte, nc)
(graduating in 30 days!)
fav music: ig, rem, 10k maniacs/n. merchant, sarah mclachlin, simon &
garfunkel (mostly simon), peter gabriel, u2, cowboy junkies, rush,
miscellaneous musicals & obscurities.
fav movie:  dead poets society
age:  22 next friday, 4/12
shoe size:  14
contact lens prescription:  -1.75 left eye, -2.75 right eye
personal status:  happily dating girlfriend of 2 1/2 yrs (also ig fan)
pets: cat--skimbleshanks ("skimble") (& my roommate has a ferret who's
name changes--ranging from "rat" to "mortal ferret")
hobbies:  music, my postal jeep, food & wine connoisseur, computers,
desktop publishing, skiing, travel & exploration, odd pranks
pet peeve:  drivers that don't understand the game of "merge"
future dream:  get a job with computers that will offer opportunities to
travel the world.

oh, and it's definitely amy, ben!  you want proof?  try this:  put on a
set of really good headphones, close your eyes & take some time to try to
distinguish amy's microphones from emily's.  with stereo sound, you can
picture their positions onstage.  you'll be able to hear that "lookin' up
at the stars" comes from a different location than "'bout time" and
"moo!"  and, yes, there's an "m" in "moo!"  it's neither "oo" nor "boo")

hope that settles it--but i'm sure it doesn't :-)

michael

oh, wait (don't delete me yet, please please please)  just a short request
of netiquette:  i don't know how many people are out there still paying by
the length of mail, but i get my posts by digest.  so whenever someone
posts a reply & includes the whole message to which they're replying, i
can't hit d to skip to the next post.  we digest users have to read thru
the whole thing.  this isn't a problem usually, but if i get yet another
copy of this pyramid scheme in my ig mail, i'm going to go nuts!  so
please, (as someone else recently noted) don't post the message that
you're responding to unless it's a necessary point of reference.  thanks.
sorry for babbling, just wanted to explain why this is a problem.

btw, does anyone out there still pay by the length of incoming mail?  i
thought that was an outdated system since memory has become so much
cheaper over the past few years...

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from:         antigone <claus@students.uiuc.edu>
subject:      a little help please?
in-reply-to:  <199604041803.maa60906@vortex.cso.uiuc.edu>

i hate to post this here, but i have tried every other way i can find to
get off the list and can't manage to do it.  i love the indigo girls, but
i check this account so infrequently that if i leave it for a week, i
have gone over my disk space and then messages that i need to get are
bounced!  if you are or know the person who somehow added a big list of
names to the list, can you see about getting me off that list?
the address that i was subscribed under was:
claus@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
however, an equivalent one is:
claus@students.uiuc.edu
or
claus@uiuc.edu

thanks in advance for your help!
christy

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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      rj

i saw the ig on their rop tour in june of 1992 at the cincinnati zoo.  i
loved the whole album, but hated rj.

that fall, i returned to college for my senior year.  during our first
apartment party, when things were starting to slow down, the keg was almost
empty and only our truest friends were still hanging out, someone suggested
that we put on rop. when we the tape got to rj, everyone was sitting in a
circle singing the lyrics at the top of their voices.  it was at that moment
that i fell in love with rj.  i will never forget that party or that night.
i have done everything from cried to rj to screamed to it.  what an
incredible song.

alycia


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differences, the illusory differences, between boys and girls,
animals and stones, day and night, heat and cold."

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      need cash/going positively nuts!!!!!!

to the people who feel the need to attach the full text of the "need cash" message
to your reply:   please stop!!!!!!!!!  i receive the list in digest form and when you
attach the full text of this message that we all have read at least 50 times already,
it means that i have to hit "enter" about 100 times to get to the next message in
the digest.  this is driving me crazy!!!  arrrrgghhhh!!!!  i think most of us could
recite this get rich quick scheme in our sleep by now...

thank you,

joan :)
   (who has almost worn out her "enter" button)

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reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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subject:      re: r&j day

kim wrote:
>i've got to agree with claire... amy's rendering of this song is far and
>above any other's interpretation of it.

ya know, when it comes to r&j, there is one thing i don't understand: why
is it that so many feel the need to deem amy's rendition as better or the
best. amy's version is just different. i feel like we're talking apples and
oranges here. amy sings it the way she _feels_ it. mark sings it the way he
_wrote_ it and the way he _feels_ it.

imagine for a moment if say michael bolton recorded ghost and the folks on
his mailing list (i assume there is one, please don't think i know this for
a fact) said things like "you know, michael sings ghost how it was meant to
be sung. that other rendition just doesn't have much feel to it." i think
we would all have a bird here!

i happen to love both (ds's and ar's) versions of r&j. they each have the
power to stand alone and i think they should be allowed to do that.

deb

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reply-to:     "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      more bootlegs 4 u next week!

several people are working feverishly to get some free ig bootleg offerings
ready for next week -- so be patient :)  several titles are being tossed
around including tuesday's children and chapel hill.  also coming down the
pike to a list near you is neil hunt's tape "indigo originals" which he had
just finished before an unfortunate accident from which he is now recovering.

so take heart, be patient...the bootleg bunny will find you :)

jude

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reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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subject:      re: need cash/going positively nuts!!!!!!

in a message dated 96-04-04 13:52:41 est, joan writes:

>this is driving me crazy!!!  arrrrgghhhh!!!!

yes ! stop it stop it stop it !!!!!!!
aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh !
the whole thing was tired when it started
and it's even more tired now !
just say delete to those anoying messages...
and delete this one too :) right now missy ! :)
love,
mom

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hey deb... hey all... deb, i like what you said... it makes sense... here's
my answer:
ooops... guess i mis-said what i was meaning... i mean amy's rendering of
this song is far and above any other's interpretation of it,  in my books...
it speaks to me ( myself... not melissa etheridge ) in a far clearer way
than any interpretation i've heard. i dunno... i just relate to amy a lot
easier... i wasn't trying to stir up a debate over who does a better job...
just wanted to share my feeling on it. cool to see another's take on the post.
peace... kim.
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hey deb... hey all... deb, i like what you said... it makes sense... here's
my answer:
ooops... guess i mis-said what i was meaning... i mean amy's rendering of
this song is far and above any other's interpretation of it,  in my books...
it speaks to me ( myself... not melissa etheridge ) in a far clearer way
than any interpretation i've heard. i dunno... i just relate to amy a lot
easier... i wasn't trying to stir up a debate over who does a better job...
just wanted to share my  feeling about the song. cool to see another's take
on the post.
peace... kim.
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subject:      romeo and juliet

        is it just me, or does anyone else think that it was a
fantabulous idea to put lwcty and r&j back to back on the rites of
passage cd???

        i was a diehard emily fan pretty much from the get go.  didn't
really pay much attention to amy.  too harsh sounding, her chords were
too easy to play...then i got to the part in r&j:

        "i keep baaaad, baaaaad, company..."

        all of a sudden....amy rules too.  and she still does.

ccsbzzzz - teri

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i agree with deb that comparing the two is like comparing apples and
oranges because they are so different.  i'm a long time dire straits fan,
up until their mtv and nike songs, and r&j was always one of my favorite
songs.  i must say, however, that after an initial period of hating it
(attributted to the fact that i was expecting a far different rendition),
i now love amy's version more.  not to say its better, i still think that
ds's version is a beautiful song, i just think the ig version has an
emotional edge and power that ds's lacked (this is my complaint about ds
in general, however, which is that thet have no emotion).

this song also represents one of my favorite things about ig.  when they
do a cover, they sing it as an ig song, rather than trying to replicate
the exact sound as the original.  to me the whole idea of doing a cover
is to put your own spin on it.   i bought the bobfest tape hoping to hear
people with good voices performing great songs, only to hear 20
performers doing their best dylan imitation, yuck!  i love the way amy
turned this into an amy song.

a note about tomorrow, which is virginia woolf day.  my aunt is a
professor (at dartmouth) of english and women's studies.  she is also a
big time virginia woolf expert and was the editor of a
publication/interpretation (or something like that) of her diaries (i
don't know if it was the version that ig refer to or not).  she also has
started to incorporate some new music by women in some of her women's
studies clases, including discussions on shakespear's sister, l7, and ig
among others.  anyway, i know she'd be interested in interpretations and
reactions to vw by ig people who have spent a lot of time listening to it
and thinking about it.  i plan to forward to her postings about vw
tomorrow, so i am, in a backhanded way, encouraging, requesting (or
whatever) people to talk about vw tomorrow.  if you have thoughts that
you didn't feel like posting to the list, i'd welcome you to send them to
me personally.    thanks.

p.s.  thanks to everyone who responeded to my request for tapes!  it's
been great!

peace, love, and moos,

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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     i have really been enjoying people's bios. this is my first post. i've
been reading things for awhile, but i've never added to the commentary.  i
seem to be a lot older than most of the people posting their biographies,
i'm 38. i first saw the indigo girls in concert in 1992 in columbus, ohio. i
have always loved their music, but seeing them live really got me hooked.
i'll let my bio/intro be a poem that i wrote about them when i saw them in
cleveland, at the nautica, in  july, 1994. it was pouring rain but they kept
playing even though they were soaked.

                           two icons
                           weaving melodies
                           reaching the masses
                           straight and slanted
                           beautiful poetic phrases
                           drift out to the audience
                           torrential downpour
                           can't extinguish
                           the excitement and enjoyment
                           that you two deliver


                                 claire
~~~~~~~~~reality is what you perceive it to be.~~~~~~~~~

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in a message dated 96-04-04 15:12:09 est, harry writes:

>ds's version is a beautiful song, i just think the ig version has an
>emotional edge and power that ds's lacked

yes, but the understated irony in his delivery speaks to me of
weary defeat, bittersweet sadness, and acceptance.
pretty cool how two people can sing the same song
and have them mean different things. sometimes restraint
can be just as powerful as all out emotion. i totally agree
with your take on ig as supremo song interpretators!
ain't art grand ?

claire

" i just love art !!!!"
                               c. johnson 1996

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on tue, 2 apr 1996, anna hidalgo wrote:

> i haven't read [_orlando_], but i have seen the movie, and i
>thought it was very, very good.  it's an independent british film directed
>by a woman -- does anyone out there remember the names of the star and
>director? my memory is blank on this one.

i too am drawing a blank on the director, but the actress was tilda swinton.

>it really challenged me to
>rethink the whole concept of gender, which feminists postulate (and i
>would tend to agree) is really a socially constructed thing.

the movie and the novel are quite a bit different, both are really good
though.  i'd recommend reading the novel--if you ever have any time to do
so.  (;

--jenifer
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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hey all:

i have been a lurker for quite a while primarily due to work reasons, but i
have been inspired by the large austin contingency to reveal myself:

name:   jen smith
location:  austin, texas  -  dc transplant
occupation:  ugh  -  but i will be starting grad. school in the fall - yeah
and thank                              goodness for small miracles
hobbies:  soccer fanatic, softball, mountain biking, habitat for humanity
music:  into the local music scene - toni price, 8.5 souvenirs, sue foley,
                           sarah hickman
recent movie fav:  fargo - if you have not yet seen it, check it out!
pets:  none at the moment, but i would love to have a dog

i hope everyone has a happy holiday!

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i must have deleted the message or something, but what is all this "moo"
conversation? what song are you refering to?

jen

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subject:      autobio...

i'll keep it short.. :)
name: sabrina chan
age:17
location:houston, tx, originally from richmond, va
occupation: rice u. student probably engineering (electrical?) ; but also
goofer offer...
fun stuff: guitar, soccer, flag football, playing spades, giving campus
tours...
music: the obvious, gin blossoms, billy pilgrim, better than ezra,
cranberries, rem, sarah mclachlan, bush, goo goo dolls (i saw 'em in
concert the other night, it was great)... lotsa other stuff

anyways, back to some elec homework.
peace all
sabrina


schan@rice.edu/rice '99/hanszen college/http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~schan
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
"emily first played this song for me on the sidewalk in front of the white
dot in atlanta.  i thought it was okay, but not her strongest... oh well,
what do i know."  amy ray on emily's "closer to fine"

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subject:      orlando - director's name!

>> > i haven't read [_orlando_], but i have seen the movie, and i
>> >thought it was very, very good.  it's an independent british film directed
>> >by a woman -- does anyone out there remember the names of the star and
>> >director? my memory is blank on this one.
>>
>> i too am drawing a blank on the director, but the actress was tilda swinton.

the director was sally potter (i knew my movie knowledge would come in
useful one day)

- jaq

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"believe me, i've been to the end of the world. i know what happens."
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subject:      cheap room in new orleans - last chance

hi all.  this is going to probably be the last time i post about the rooms i
have booked through the la quinta inn-new orleans.  i have 10 rooms left for
may 1-5 and the cost is $132 per night.  you can get a room for one to five
nights, depending on your needs.  i have also chartered a bus to take anyone
from the hotel to the concert and back.  the cost of a seat on the bus is $20
per person round trip.  let me know if you are interested.  i need all money
for hotel and bus by thursday, april 18.  talk to y'all soon.

let it grow

bert

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subject:      re: looking for rape victims (obviously nigc)
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why under the influence of this drug?  what's up with that?

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subject:      r&j, virginia w. and a pooh confession.....
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obviously r&j is one of my favorite ig's songs.  the emotion is so raw, so
real, and so touchable.  i agree with mmedido when she said amy screams "i'm
gonna love you like the stars above i'm gonna love you til i die."  golly, i
have never had a song move me so much.  hey, didn't i say that about another
song last week? :o)  for those of you keeping an update on my love life, i am
doing so much better this week.  the sunshine helps, as does going to the
gym.  i should listen to my body more often.  ok, big confession time.  i
have virginia woolf's diary.  i bought it, of course, because of the song.  i
consider myself a literate person cognizant of the literary world around me,
*but* i just cannot get into this book.  can someone help me?  does anyone
feel the way i do?  who has read this book and loves it?  someone please
enlighten me.
still freaking out about driving in
seattle....................................pooh

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claire thanks for sharing, that is great!

pooh

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i guess that the drug mentioned in the query is an illegal drug that is
sweeping across the south.  it is a prescription drug that the fda pulled
approval on because of its side effects, which include grogginess and
sometimes blacking out.  it is often dropped into women's drinks in
clubs, and because of its side effects, women often agree to have sex, or
are so drugged they can't control themselves.  it is being referred to as
the "rape drug" or something like that, and has become a favorite in
spring break spots such as san padre, myrtle beach, daytona, etc.  that
is all i know...could someone with more info add to this?

thx...
aim

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subject:      lineup for newport...

hello everyone...

could anyone tell me, although i'm sure it's already been on here
somewhere, who is scheduled to play at the newport folk fest?  i have
some friends who might go.

btw, what is the date for that show, again?

thx in advance.
love
aim

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subject:      re: r&j day

>this song also represents one of my favorite things about ig.  when they
>do a cover, they sing it as an ig song, rather than trying to replicate
>the exact sound as the original.  to me the whole idea of doing a cover
>is to put your own spin on it.   i bought the bobfest tape hoping to hear
>people with good voices performing great songs, only to hear 20
>performers doing their best dylan imitation, yuck!  i love the way amy
>turned this into an amy song.

i am so with you on this one!  sometimes, i don't like it when bands i like
cover songs by other band s i like, for instance ig doing bob dylan.  but i
must say ig adds a life to all of the music they sing like few other bands.
i cannot leave the room during all along the wt when ig does it!  i mean,
i am physically unable!! :) and dbyt river??:) need i say more?
about r&j, well, it took me a whileto start liking it( i didn't when i
first heard it-- but it grows on you), but when i was a sophomore in high
school i bought this album just before starting school in ct after moving
from saudi, (actually on the drive to ct from ny i bought it).  i was used
to being a soul (i mean sole) ig fan, but i played it for my new roomie and
she really liked it!  all fall semester we played it at least once a day
and r&j was always loudest!  it really is incredibly strong!!

and a quick bio:
amber abbas--pronounced umber uh-boss), born and raised in saudi arabia,
through a series of twists and turns i have ended up going to duke
univesity in durham, nc and *loving it!*  i got my first ig tape from my
big sis-- also a dukie-- when i was in 4th or 5th grade, ig and sf.  i
remember getting nis in 8th grade in the middle of the gulf war (while i
was still living in saudi) and just playing y&motttw over and over and
crying every time one of my friends left the country, or i heard about more
bombings, death, etc.  then when we finally made a temporary departure my
daddy couldn't come b/c of work and i listened to that song on the military
transport jet out of saudi.  lots of heavy emotions centered on ig, they
seem to have been there at so many of the important times in my life! (yeah
mush) sadly for me, they never toured in saudi and ever since i've been
here they have not been where i am.  i didn't think i could go to no b/c of
exams, but now have discovered that my exams are over on the 1st of may,
but alas somebody doesn't have a ticket, and it is *me*

"a moment of peace is worth every war behind us." that never gets old--does it?
good evening all, amber

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subject:      re: need cash, etc.

        hi! i love this list. i enjoy most of this list. however, i do have a
request, which i will get to in a bit.

         somebody posted the long, annoying, illegal
chain letter/pyramid scheme. then several people
understandably responded with their displeasure.
however, so far 3 people, while responding, have
quoted the whole long, annoying, illegal, chain
letter/pyramid scheme.

            please, please, please. reading a post once is enough.
if you are responding to a former post, and need to quote
from it, please quote only the important portion. this will
save the readers a lot of time and annoyance. also, the
longer your post, the more some people have to pay.

           i hope i haven't made anybody too upset. thanks for
listening.

                                dave

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subject:      ok so if you are sick of the bio thread skip this message!

i have not seen any bios from my area so i thought i'd share:

name: larissa christine brown
igo by: larissa, lariss, issy, lissa. the only things you can;t call me are
"wad" and "burger". don't ask...
what i do for money: i too chop lettuce, no really, currently i am a
work/study employee in the school cafeteria.
what i do for education: i am getting my masters degree (although i think i'm
bailing mid-stream) in feminist liberation theology from the episcopal
divinity school in cambridge, massachusetts.
other things: i am from menlo park, ca, where my heart remains, and i am in
and out of a rocky yet often beautiful relationship, and i just lost the only
pet who was really mine, finn the amazing beta fish, but i share two cats,
isis and hecate, and a dog, boris yeltsin, with the rest of my biological
family. woowoo
ok thats all i feel like telling you
oh, duh my fave band is ig, i also love ani difranco, jennifer berezan, fred
small, libby roderick, and lots more...

peace

larissa

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from:         pickle <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      re: newport...
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960404202856.15624a-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

hey all-
me and my friends are totally taking a road trip to newport this
summer, i was just wondering what happened to the newport web page...
it used to be ther and now.... poof!  gone.  can someone tell me
how/when to get tix, and where i can stay...  (i think we're only going
up for the 11th, but i think it'll be too late to drive home (to
maryland) after the show.)  also, does anyone know who else is
playing?  (i guess this goes along with the "what's the lineup" thing,
huh?)  well, thanks...
mandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandymandy

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from:         jenny finch <castledancers@aristotle.net>
subject:      ropes (nigc)

  ok i can't spell it but i might know about it.  last year for my birthday
i received several "rohypronals".  they are very common in the austin area
for sure.  i don't know anyone who was raped while on  this drug, but it
could be dangerous.  my friend visited me that night after taking a pill or
maybe 1/2 of one; she mixed this with jack daniels.  she didn't even
remember seeing me that evening.  it can be a dangerous drug, or fun
depending on your perspective.  her roommate and i carried her to her
apartment.  the cost is cheap under $3 each. (i think)  they definately
cause memory loss, people need to stay in safe environments if they choose
not to have safe activities.
well i have probably said too much.
j

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subject:      fwd: rohypnol--extremely important

hiya!  hope this clarifies it a bit... got this from a fellow listee (and
eight hundred or so other concerned folk...) peace, sarah

>this is pretty scary... thought y'all should read it...
>[i was just deleting the fwded addresses and accidentally deleted the 1st
>line
>of the body... i don't think it said anything vital, but if you want to
>know just write me and i'll tell you whatever it said]
>  -julie
>
>> and to the people we care about.  i've told some of you about rohypnol
>> before and i got some of my facts mixed up:
>>
>>
>>       1.  you don't need to take it with alcohol for the effects to work
>>       2.  it doesn't take 1-2 hours for it to take effect...only 10
minutes
>>
>>
>> please take the time to read this whole thing and please forward it to
>> everyone you know.  if you are female, then i would be wary from now
>> on about accepting drinks from anyone you don't know well or know long
>> enough to trust.  for you guys out there, i"d tell your sister(s) about
>> this drug and how it could effect them.
>>
>>
>> oh, another tip for the women...if you're going to accept a drink
>> from someone you've just met (like a date) then i'd try to make sure it's
>> from an unopened container and that you open it yourself.  if you must
>> accept a drink anyway, then i'd mention to him that you know *everything*
>> about rohypnol and its effects.  i hope that would curb his desire to slip
>> a "roofie" (slang for rohypnol) in your drink.
>> god, the world gets worse everyday....oh well, learn to survive!
>>
>>
>>
>> anyway, here's the article:
>>
>> rapists slipping victims modern-day mickeys
>>
>> cheap pill blots out memory of crimes
>>
>> miami-imagine all the fears of parents whose daughters have hit
>> dating age packed into one white pill the size of a dime.
>> it may be the mightiest mickey finn ever concocted.
>> and it is not the fiction of sam spade novels and humphrey bogart
>> movies.
>>
>> these days, it costs about $3 at the high school water fountain.  it
>> is colorless, odorless and quickly dissolves in a can of diet coke.
>> in about 10 minutes, it creates a drunk-like effect that lasts eight
>> hours.  it enhances the effects of alcohol, causing loss of inhibition,
>> extreme sleepiness, relaxation and - perhaps worst of all for its victims
-
>> amnesia.
>>
>> the pill is made of a drug called rohypnol (pronounced ro-hip-nol).
>> your kids know them as "roofies."
>>
>>   and police are concerned - particularly about roofie rape.
>>
>> in broward county, fla., 10 men have been arrested on roofie-rape
>> charges in the past year.  the most recent came feb. 1, when two brothers
>> and a friend were charged with repeatedly raping a 15-year-old girl after
>> they secretly put a roofie in her soft drink. a 26-year-old broward county
>> man who pleaded guilty to roofie rape in a 1995 case - mark anthony perez
>> of plantation - told authorities he used it to rape as many as 40 women.
>> the problem has not been as prevalent in dade county, where police
>> departments reported a handful of suspected sexual assaults related
>> to roofies in the past six months.
>>
>> a 17-year-old coral springs girl raped jan. 7, 1996 while she was
>> under the influence of roofies lost 10 hours between having dinner with
>> friends and waking up in a strange hotel bed.  police are investigating a
>> 29-year-old suspect who was at the dinner.
>>
>> "her panties were around her ankles and a condom next to her,"  said
>> the girl's mother.  "my daughter didn't know this guy.  she doesn't
>> remember a thing.  this man is a rapist and he's going around doing this
>> to other women," she said.  "i want people to know how dangerous this is."
>>
>> "it's a big, big deal out there right now," said bonnie lashbrook, a
>> student peer counselor at cooper city high school.  "parents of teen-age
>> girls should be scared."
>>
>> college officials also note a concern on college campuses.  reported
>> sexual assault have increased and may be linked to rohypnol.  officials
>> estimate that this may just be the tip of the iceberg.  since, the
>> victims suffer amnesia many women may have no idea that have been raped.
>>
>> rohypnol is a potent and hypnotic sedative used in some countries to
>> put out surgery patients.  they are prescribed as sleeping pills in
>> about 80 countries, but not the united states.  the emergence of the
>> once-obscure sedative has thrown police agencies for a loop.  florida law
>> officers have seized tens of thousands of the pills in the past year.
>> rohypnol is also easily available from mexico and parts of europe.
>> in one raid, the pills were packaged in vitamin bottles and labeled
>> in spanish.  they were shipped from colombia and distributed by two
>> suspects, said sheriff's spokesman jim leljedal.
>> it has proliferated to such a point that the drug enforcement
>> administration and the florida department of law enforcement have
>> joined forces with police to have rohypnol's status as an illegal drug
>> enhanced to make penalties equal to cocaine and heroin.
>>
>> "it's just that we have a chance in law enforcement to get ahead of
>> this thing before it gets too out of control," said cooper city police
>> capt. jim harn, whose agency is investigating several roofie-rape cases.
>>
>> the incident involving the 15-year-old from cooper city happened in
>> june at a sweet 16 party at the merrimac hotel on fort lauderdale beach.
>> charged with her rape are brothers sidney harmon, 19, and scott harmon,
>> 17, of pembroke pines, and moises ventura, 18, of miramar.  the harmons'
>> mother has said her sons are innocent.  the ventura family has declined
>> comment.  according to friends, scott and moises were inseparable friends
>> who like to start fights and cause trouble.  sidney, who aspires to be a
>> paramedic, is a quiet, sensitive boy, friends say.
>>
>> erica verriotto, 17, said she was good friends with all three boys
>> for over several.  "scott was kind of a troublemaker sometimes, you
>> know?" she said.  "nothing really serious.  he used to like, start fights.
>
>> you know, yell at people who cut him off in traffic and stuff." "but
>> sid, no way," she said.  "trust sid no matter what."
>>
>> cooper city detectives say several other girls have come forward
>> with similar stories about the group of boys, but no charges have yet
>> been filed.
>>
>> "a lot of times the guys don't think they've done anything wrong,"
>> said cooper city police det. kregg lupo.  "this is not a rape in their
>> eyes they think if the girl is not awake or alert enough to say, 'no,'
>> it's not rape."
>>
>> police say they were able to arrest the harmons and ventura
>> primarily because the rapes happened while the victim's best friend
>> watched - an eyewitness.  another teen at the party said scott and moises
>> bragged about slipping the roofie into her soft drink.
>>
>> other roofie-rapes are more difficult to prosecute because of the
>> victims' loss of memory of the incident.  "it's very difficult making
these
>> cases," said dennis nicewander, an  assistant state attorney in the
broward
>> sex-crimes unit.  "usually these victims don't remember a thing.
>>
>> "it's almost like the perfect crime,"  he said.  "because they don't
>> have to worry about a witness testifying against them.  and don't think
>> these guys aren't figuring that out."
>>
>>
>> the drug also has the potential to make rapists out of men who
>> without the drug might not commit the crime, he said.
>> "usually, they aren't the kind of guys who would force themselves on
>> someone for sex.  they seem to be the kind of guys you'd see at
>> happy hour with their buddies, the kind of frat-boy mentality that thinks
>> it's fun to get a girl drunk and have their way."
>>
>> the drug also works it's way out of the human system usually within
>> 24 hours, he said, which makes any delay by the victim a problem.
>> "many of these kids start out in a compromising position to begin
>> with, then this happens to them and they are scared and embarrassed and
>> unclear as to what happened," said stan peacock, a broward prosecutor.
>> "i have told my 17-year-old daughter never to accept a beverage of
>> any kind from anyone unless it is in a sealed container that she opens
>> herself," he said.  "does that give you any kind of an idea how concerned
>> i am about it?"
>>
>> read and proliferate this message


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from:   jgold16@emory.edu (julie elaine goldman)
to:     sa557@bard.edu (sheila arieh), sheba@mindspring.com (deirdre dodson),
masters77@aol.com (phoebe edge), tilly@rice.edu (sue mac hatcher),
renosk_v@cc.denison.edu (vanessa renosky), mribas@emory.edu (melisa ribas),
sanawike1@aol.com (sarah wiegman), slsst2@stulab.sfcpa.edu (shannon shevock)
date: 96-03-30 00:13:08 est

this is pretty scary... thought y'all should read it...
[i was just deleting the fwded addresses and accidentally deleted the 1st
line
of the body... i don't think it said anything vital, but if you want to
know just write me and i'll tell you whatever it said]
  -julie

> and to the people we care about.  i've told some of you about rohypnol
> before and i got some of my facts mixed up:
>
>
>       1.  you don't need to take it with alcohol for the effects to work
>       2.  it doesn't take 1-2 hours for it to take effect...only 10 minutes
>
>
> please take the time to read this whole thing and please forward it to
> everyone you know.  if you are female, then i would be wary from now
> on about accepting drinks from anyone you don't know well or know long
> enough to trust.  for you guys out there, i"d tell your sister(s) about
> this drug and how it could effect them.
>
>
> oh, another tip for the women...if you're going to accept a drink
> from someone you've just met (like a date) then i'd try to make sure it's
> from an unopened container and that you open it yourself.  if you must
> accept a drink anyway, then i'd mention to him that you know *everything*
> about rohypnol and its effects.  i hope that would curb his desire to slip
> a "roofie" (slang for rohypnol) in your drink.
> god, the world gets worse everyday....oh well, learn to survive!
>
>
>
> anyway, here's the article:
>
> rapists slipping victims modern-day mickeys
>
> cheap pill blots out memory of crimes
>
> miami-imagine all the fears of parents whose daughters have hit
> dating age packed into one white pill the size of a dime.
> it may be the mightiest mickey finn ever concocted.
> and it is not the fiction of sam spade novels and humphrey bogart
> movies.
>
> these days, it costs about $3 at the high school water fountain.  it
> is colorless, odorless and quickly dissolves in a can of diet coke.
> in about 10 minutes, it creates a drunk-like effect that lasts eight
> hours.  it enhances the effects of alcohol, causing loss of inhibition,
> extreme sleepiness, relaxation and - perhaps worst of all for its victims -
> amnesia.
>
> the pill is made of a drug called rohypnol (pronounced ro-hip-nol).
> your kids know them as "roofies."
>
>   and police are concerned - particularly about roofie rape.
>
> in broward county, fla., 10 men have been arrested on roofie-rape
> charges in the past year.  the most recent came feb. 1, when two brothers
> and a friend were charged with repeatedly raping a 15-year-old girl after
> they secretly put a roofie in her soft drink. a 26-year-old broward county
> man who pleaded guilty to roofie rape in a 1995 case - mark anthony perez
> of plantation - told authorities he used it to rape as many as 40 women.
> the problem has not been as prevalent in dade county, where police
> departments reported a handful of suspected sexual assaults related
> to roofies in the past six months.
>
> a 17-year-old coral springs girl raped jan. 7, 1996 while she was
> under the influence of roofies lost 10 hours between having dinner with
> friends and waking up in a strange hotel bed.  police are investigating a
> 29-year-old suspect who was at the dinner.
>
> "her panties were around her ankles and a condom next to her,"  said
> the girl's mother.  "my daughter didn't know this guy.  she doesn't
> remember a thing.  this man is a rapist and he's going around doing this
> to other women," she said.  "i want people to know how dangerous this is."
>
> "it's a big, big deal out there right now," said bonnie lashbrook, a
> student peer counselor at cooper city high school.  "parents of teen-age
> girls should be scared."
>
> college officials also note a concern on college campuses.  reported
> sexual assault have increased and may be linked to rohypnol.  officials
> estimate that this may just be the tip of the iceberg.  since, the
> victims suffer amnesia many women may have no idea that have been raped.
>
> rohypnol is a potent and hypnotic sedative used in some countries to
> put out surgery patients.  they are prescribed as sleeping pills in
> about 80 countries, but not the united states.  the emergence of the
> once-obscure sedative has thrown police agencies for a loop.  florida law
> officers have seized tens of thousands of the pills in the past year.
> rohypnol is also easily available from mexico and parts of europe.
> in one raid, the pills were packaged in vitamin bottles and labeled
> in spanish.  they were shipped from colombia and distributed by two
> suspects, said sheriff's spokesman jim leljedal.
> it has proliferated to such a point that the drug enforcement
> administration and the florida department of law enforcement have
> joined forces with police to have rohypnol's status as an illegal drug
> enhanced to make penalties equal to cocaine and heroin.
>
> "it's just that we have a chance in law enforcement to get ahead of
> this thing before it gets too out of control," said cooper city police
> capt. jim harn, whose agency is investigating several roofie-rape cases.
>
> the incident involving the 15-year-old from cooper city happened in
> june at a sweet 16 party at the merrimac hotel on fort lauderdale beach.
> charged with her rape are brothers sidney harmon, 19, and scott harmon,
> 17, of pembroke pines, and moises ventura, 18, of miramar.  the harmons'
> mother has said her sons are innocent.  the ventura family has declined
> comment.  according to friends, scott and moises were inseparable friends
> who like to start fights and cause trouble.  sidney, who aspires to be a
> paramedic, is a quiet, sensitive boy, friends say.
>
> erica verriotto, 17, said she was good friends with all three boys
> for over several.  "scott was kind of a troublemaker sometimes, you
> know?" she said.  "nothing really serious.  he used to like, start fights.

> you know, yell at people who cut him off in traffic and stuff." "but
> sid, no way," she said.  "trust sid no matter what."
>
> cooper city detectives say several other girls have come forward
> with similar stories about the group of boys, but no charges have yet
> been filed.
>
> "a lot of times the guys don't think they've done anything wrong,"
> said cooper city police det. kregg lupo.  "this is not a rape in their
> eyes they think if the girl is not awake or alert enough to say, 'no,'
> it's not rape."
>
> police say they were able to arrest the harmons and ventura
> primarily because the rapes happened while the victim's best friend
> watched - an eyewitness.  another teen at the party said scott and moises
> bragged about slipping the roofie into her soft drink.
>
> other roofie-rapes are more difficult to prosecute because of the
> victims' loss of memory of the incident.  "it's very difficult making these
> cases," said dennis nicewander, an  assistant state attorney in the broward
> sex-crimes unit.  "usually these victims don't remember a thing.
>
> "it's almost like the perfect crime,"  he said.  "because they don't
> have to worry about a witness testifying against them.  and don't think
> these guys aren't figuring that out."
>
>
> the drug also has the potential to make rapists out of men who
> without the drug might not commit the crime, he said.
> "usually, they aren't the kind of guys who would force themselves on
> someone for sex.  they seem to be the kind of guys you'd see at
> happy hour with their buddies, the kind of frat-boy mentality that thinks
> it's fun to get a girl drunk and have their way."
>
> the drug also works it's way out of the human system usually within
> 24 hours, he said, which makes any delay by the victim a problem.
> "many of these kids start out in a compromising position to begin
> with, then this happens to them and they are scared and embarrassed and
> unclear as to what happened," said stan peacock, a broward prosecutor.
> "i have told my 17-year-old daughter never to accept a beverage of
> any kind from anyone unless it is in a sealed container that she opens
> herself," he said.  "does that give you any kind of an idea how concerned
> i am about it?"
>
> read and proliferate this message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 00:32:59 -0500
reply-to:     michael valenta <zzvalentam@winthrop.edu>
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from:         michael valenta <zzvalentam@winthrop.edu>
subject:      nigc:  natalie merchant

for the many nm/10km fans that i've seen out there:

saturday night live -- april 6, a rerun with natalie merchant ("carnival"
and "wonder")

just thought you might be interested.
michael

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reply-to:     gail_anthony@abtex#u#north#u#novell.ccmail.compuserve.com
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from:         gail_anthony@abtex#u#north#u#novell.ccmail.compuserve.com
subject:      bio

     hi folks,


     i have noticed a decided lack of 'bio' information from any of the
     non-usa members of this list, so here goooes :

     name : gail anthony

     location : aberdeen, scotland (but i was born in falkirk - the
     original bairn...<g>)

     occupation : installation consultant (at least thats what my business
     card says...i install and configure computer networks).

     hobbies : karate (i'm a brown belt), guitar, going to gigs.

     music : ig (natch..), k.d.lang, horse, alanis morrissette, melissa
     etheridge, joan osbourne, lorna brooks, sugartown, rem, oasis, mcc,
     green day, skin, bryan adams, bon jovi, garth brooks, echobelly, cast,
     lenny kravitz, mpeople, crowded house, runrig, u2, etc...etc...etc...

     dob : 9/10/69 - share my birthday with john lennon %-)

     ambition : to see an ig concert !! (will they ever return to these
     shores.....?)

     for those of you in the states and englandshire, have a great holiday
     weekend..<sniff>...i have to work :..(

     ciao

     gail

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subject:      ok i know this question has been asked before-color me grey

on cmg, amy sings about someone named emily in fallin' star.
i know this has been asked before, but is this *the* emily s., or another
emily, does anyone know? i know they were never lovers, so also does anyone
know what the song is about according to amy? um, this has been asked before,
so you could mail me privately if you want.

thanks a lot yall!!

pondering,

larissa

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subject:      late thoughts on love will come to you

the first time i heard this song i just wept and wept, it is so amazing and
sums up feelings i have had so many times...i agree with whomever wisely said
it is in the shadow of "ghost", i think rop is such a good album that the
songs get less individual attention somehow, cause it is almost all just so
amazing! but really, this has been a big favorite of mine since i first heard
it, years ago in my very dear friend's car.

peace,

larissa

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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 09:39:39 est
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <jhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: color me grey

here is some info i had on cmg:

jude :

subject: amy's "solo album."

   this is a review of a tape that was probably recorded in around 1985. the
copies of this in circulation give it the title "color me grey," but i don't
know if it actually ever had a title.  it's an hour long demo of songs by
amy, performed by amy alone.  the tracks seem to have been more or less
recorded in one take, though in some (or all) cases, the vocal track may have
been added later to the basic guitar track.  the sound quality is fair to
good, which changes to fair to poor for the last four songs or so.  that may
just be my copy, though.  however, the sound is never unlistenable, and the
vocals are extremely clear, though on some of the final tracks amy's voice
becomes a little distorted on the louder passages.  the guitar sound is
generally muddy, but no more than in most bootlegs.  on several occasions,
the microphone successfully captured subtle sounds, such as amy's fingers
sliding against the lower strings.
     the performance is probably not what you would expect, as amy was more
influenced at this time by people like james taylor, bob dylan, and joni
mitchell, than her more recent influences such as rem, the replacements, and
the ellen james society.  what i'm trying to say is that this is not "the
ballad of squeaky fromme,"  or "romeo and juliet,"  or even "hand in hand."
these songs, like those, stress the lyric, but unlike those, do not stress
the dynamics of live performance.  in fact, it would not be unfair to call
this recording "mellow."  in places, it could even put you to sleep. (or,
provide that last push you need to put that gun to your head.) but calling it
boring or depressing is unfair.  the material here, though not very dynamic,
is solidly emotional.  (if emotion can be solid, that is.) the lyrics are
often immature, but rarely, if ever, stupid.  this is probably a side of amy
that few have seen, and some may wish to keep it that way.  but, for those
willing to accept this recording with all its flaws, a definite treat is in
store.  for behind the rough production is a diamond in the rough. amy's
voice lacks the edge that most associate with her style, but instead, it has
a tenderness that is only exposed on rare occasions.  to some, this may not
sound much like the amy they know, but to others, it reveals a different kind
of expressive quality that amy possesses.
  amy's guitar playing is perhaps a little better than one would expect, but
it (rightly) takes a back seat to the vocals.  the songs are based more on
the rhythms and the chord changes than the melody, which serves to place the
guitar into the backdrop, and bring the vocals to center stage.
    the album has a very cohesive quality to it, so that few of the songs
stand out.  that's not to imply that they couldn't stand on their own, but it
means that reviewing them track by track would be a pointless endeavor. in
addition, the only song that would likely be familiar to anyone who hasn't
heard this tape is "nashville," performed here in a slightly slower version,
which suggest more regret than the relative near-hostility of recent
performances. however, there are a couple of key tracks that deserve more
than just mentioning the title: "fallin' star," and "color me grey."  the
first of these two songs is probably the most beautiful track on the tape, as
it has a more worked out melody than most of the other songs.  and the
emotional performance of this particular vocal is a highlight.  the lyrics,
too, are rather striking, especially the last few lines, which would cause
many listeners to rewind their tapes to make sure their ears did not decieve
them:
                "emily, i've gotta tell you i understand,
                i understand.
                when your love flies away, well,
                honesty, that's the best you can do,
                but aren't you empty inside?
                aren't you?  falling star.  "

the second key song, "color me grey," has one of the best overall lyrics on
the tape.
                "her life is a show,
                one night follows the other everywhere she goes
                but she never takes a leading role,
                save for the time she's on the stage.
                color her black, or white;
                either one reflects the teardrops.
                one extreme for the other,
                nothing in between.
                color her white for the princess she could be;
                color her black for the troubled child she plays so well;
                she's dancing through hell on a dream.
                and blue is the soul of the one
                reaching for the man that she hasn't got yet,
                holding onto those hearts for lost causes;
                she could be so bright, but she's reaching for us all.
                color her blue for the loneliness she feels-
                she's hiding her heart in the sky.
                and color me grey,
                i'm a little bit of everything today,
                and i'm not sure where i'm going.
                color me grey,
                wishing i was something more of distinction.
                and color us all,
                'cause we're just stars, wishing our lives away,
                into the distance,
                out of existance.
                color her black or white,
                color her blue,
                color me grey,
                color us all,
                we're stars, wishing our lives away."


amy ray - "color me grey" (1985?) "scared to say we're friends," "nashville,"
"fallin' star," "carry me away," "anyway, i love you," "clues to you,"
"always be there,"  "c "color me grey," "free through eternity,"  "passing
time,"  "losin' touch," "erase the pain," "anyone but myself."

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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 09:01:05 cst
reply-to:     russ rutter <russ@dexmn.com>
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from:         russ rutter <russ@dexmn.com>
subject:      a&e articles

hi, just wanted to let everybody know that both amy and emily wrote at
articles on their honor the earth experiences for the new edition of the
indigenous women's network magazine,
the honor the earth campaign is selling them for $5 (that is the cover price)
you can receive a copy by sending check or money order to direct expressions
or with  or with mastercard or visa fax us at 612-221-9022 or e-mail
russ@dexmn.com

now anothoer shameles plug for honor the earth--if you want to be on the mailinglist or hear about 1995 tour merchadnise or the new 1996 spring stuff let me
know at omi@dexmn.com.

my bio
name:  russ rutter
dob:  5/18/53
occupation:  merchandise m anager for a small marketing company working within
the progressive nono-profit community with an emphasis on native american
issues
favorite music:  ig; neil young, melissa etheridge; soul asylum; the suburbs;
lou reed; janis; joan baez; jimi hendirx; the grateful dead; the doors; the
band; dylan; george throgood; etc.  bob marley!
favorite authors:  twain; stephen king; louise erdich; i read just about
anything
hobbies:  skiing; travel; antiques; reading; movies (mu my work pretty much
consuems me)
thanks for listening.  peace, russ

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subject:      joan and nadyne help me with my amnesia!!!

i know i owe each of you a tape, and have recieved your lovely giftees in the
mail, and have your addresses, but cannot remember what exactly-o i was
sending each of you!

larissa

who has gotta get organized someday

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subject:      rohypnol, the "date rape" drug (nigc)

hi all. i have been reading the posts about rohypnol.it is an fda-approved
drug used for some mental illnesses and anxiety that is currently
making its way through the black market, esp. in florida and the southern
states and california (from what i have read). the drug, when mis-administered,
has an effect on those who take it wherein they experience significant memory
loss even though they may remian conscious throughout. it's really scary
because it has been targeted as an "easy way" to victimize women and have
sex with them without consent, i.e. it's title as the "date rape drug". it is
also known to be called "roophies" and "rophies" (slang terms, obviously).

i work with rape victims on a college campus, and so far, it hasn't hit colorado yet
that i know of.....it's really, really scary though.

take care,
susan

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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on thu, 4 apr 1996 lbrown9787@aol.com wrote:

> i have not seen any bios from my area so i thought i'd share:

well, here's another then...

name: karen harper
i go by: ummm...karen? :)  but on irc...i'm kad
what i do for money: sit around waiting for it to fall from my money
tree? ;)
what i do for education: i am currently working on a master's degree at
boston university in mechanical engineering.
other things that will likely bore you:  i was born in varkaus,
finland, but i grew up in st. john's, newfoundland, canada
(the coolest place on the planet, meant in both senses of the
word...it's packin' cold there and possibly a little bit socially and
economically backwards, but extraordinarily beautiful and friendly).

musical interests include ig of course and melissa etheridge....and
naturally, i have an affinity for the canadian music scene topped by
spirit of the west, cowboy junkies, skydiggers, great big sea, etc.

take care y'all and see ya bom bye (the newfie part),
karen
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subject:      r&j...better late than never!

i was reading everyone's opinions of r&j, when i had a sudden flash-back...
1991 ( ?...flash-backs can be a little hazy...)
janus landing, st. pete, fl ...
nis tour, seeing the girls for the second night in a row...
ar on stage...sweaty shirt clinging...(your imagination can fill in, i'm
sure!)... hair stuck to her face...
r&j hitting my eardrums for the first time...slamming me in the chest at one
thousand miles an hour...
unable to move...mouth gaping open...eyes glued to her...
later that night...out on the street, standing in front of ar's
mini-van...handy-cam video camera in hand...
someone asks, "when's your new album coming out?"
ar:"end of august."
someone else asks, "will juliet be on it?"
ar: "naw...i don't think so..."
(small crowd goes, "ahhhhhhhhh...")
that same someone asks, "why not?"
ar: "i didn't write it..."
hmmmmm...well, guess someone got her to change her mind!  thank the goddess!
by the way...at the concert the night before, i managed to sneak that
handy-cam into the show!  it was outdoors, no seating, and i was right up
front... so close that i couldn't get a and e into the frame at the same
time!!  i got caught half way through the show, but i played the old
switcheroo with the video cassette before they took my camera!!  (i sincerely
hope that everyone on the crew enjoyed the video of my sister and her
boyfriend at disney!!)
just one of the great ig adventures in my life!!
~~robin
stay tuned for "bio of robin", coming soon to a list near you!!

"crazy game     i never shoulda started to play      but now you couldn't
tear me away"
e.saliers

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subject:      the oldest ig list membe

i think i may be the oldest ig list member (thanks claire for owning up
to 38! 8-)) if i make it until november (the 12th, specifically - i'm
a nasty ol' scorpio), i'll be 44. i was almost 11 when emily was born! i
remember jfk's assasination, the 1969 woodstock, mercury & apollo
space programs, i saw elvis perform on ed sullivan, and i was
a member of the original mickey mouse club. at times, i really like
being over 40, other times (like now), i need to go sit on my front
porch in my rocking chair and shut up about it. anyone see "friends"
last night? i got a laugh out of tom selleck's character saying how
much he liked hanging out with monica's friends. they could talk
about other things instead of "guess who dropped dead shoveling snow
this morning?" that's why i like you folks so much. besides having
excellent taste in music, you keep my mind focused on other things.

i don't think we've had "kid fears" day (or i missed it if we did), but
that's my strongest ig memory. i saw the ctf video on tv, liked the song
and bought the cd. i took it to the beach with me and hurricane hugo
was threatening the se coast of the us. i spent that week helping friends
get ready for the hurricane and listening the the cd. if i hear kf, i
am back at the beach, at the hardware store getting plywood to
board up windows.

nancy (the middle-aged fart)

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      friday, april 12th

i just wanted to remind everyone that this friday,
april 12th is the 32nd anniversary of amy ray's
birth!!!!

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subject:      jazz fest web site is screwy

hi ho jazzoids !

i have been trying to check out the www site on the nojf
because i'm startin' to get edgy about not having tix for
may 2 8 \
the site is all funky and i can't access nothin'.
can one of you dear "sweetie darlings" send me
info on how to snag that oh so important may 2
ticket by phone or computer ?????
mercy bo-cups !
claire

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subject:      re: friday, april 12th

yes, it will be amy's b-day and *exactly* one year from the athens, ohio show
for which my right arm has been registered as bait for the past year!

jude :)

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subject:      re: jazz fest web site is screwy

claire,

actually i wouldn't worry too much about tickets for jazz fest. they
cannot sell out.

jazz fest is held on the grounds of an old race track (horses i
think). anyhow the place is simply huge. like 50 acres or something.
there will be about 5 different stages, with music playing
constantly, however, bleed over from one stage to another is not a
problem becuase this place is simply huge. like 50 acres or... wow
deja vu..

anyhow, tickets will be available at the gate the day of the show..
no problem. however if you really want to order tickets check out
this web site:

http://www.yatcom.com/neworl/jfest/1996/tickets.html
peace

dan perkins
post episodic clairvoyant
tour guide to the obvious
'
"if we build a society based on honoring the earth,
we build a society which is sustainable,and has the
capacity to support all life forms. if we honor the
earth we guarantee our collective survival"
                        -winona laduke

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subject:      cute story & r*j

howdy folks,

i had kind of a funny ig experience yesterday. yen came to visit. (hi yen. i
owe you lunch!) we went guitar shopping. ooh, what fun. anyhoo, we went to
this tiny little folk music shop in eastern, pa, and i was looking at, and
playing a couple of guitars. the woman there was very nice, and helpful. while
she was giving me info on various guitars (makes, models, features, etc) yen
and i each played a few measures of a few ig songs, because that's what we
know, and it was all i could think of to play. we didn't play any full songs,
just kinda touched on ghost, r&j, strange fire, 10k wars.  but we never said
a word about what we were playing. so a few minutes later the woman
starts talking about j-models, and she says, "i think that's what they play,
you know." i looked at her blankly, and she clarifies, "the indigo girls. at
least one of them plays a jumbo. you know, the black j-40." i about fell out
of my chair laughing, because the _only_ thing that identified us as ig fans
was a few halting measures of a few songs. i guess i shouldn't have been so
surprised that she "caught on." i mean, it _was_ a folk music shop. but it
really was quite amusing. it's nice to meet a fellow fan...anytime. :)

and i think i'm obliged to say something about r&j here. most of you already
know how i feel about this song. i mean, i _am_ the one who's driving the
"amy's-version-of-r&j-is-the-best" car. ;) i've been in love with this song
since the moment i first heard amy do it live. (yes, i've heard it live. nya
nya nya nya nya!) the only thing that keeps me from saying this is my all-time
favorite ig song is that due to some unfathomable twist of fate, amy didn't
actually write it. just for the record, i _did_ hear knopfler's version first,
and _loved_ it. i just love amy's more. that's all. :)

folkisgruven, (and so are folk music shops),
lorindigo
driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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in a message dated 96-04-05 11:20:59 est, you write:

>great story, too bad you got caught. did they ever give the camera back?
>how the hell did they see you, anyway? facists...
>                         sharon

we (my sister and i) were being carefull not to be too obvious as we took
turns taping the girls.  a couple of women in the audience saw us and started
screaming, "put the camera away".  they were under the impression that our
camera was making e nervous!!  e wasn't performing 100% that night, and as we
found out later (after she left a doing several unexpected solos), as wasn't
feeling well (a & e had spent the day diving  off st. pete beach...).  but,
nevertheless, all their comotion got the attention of road manager, beth
stubenbord (sp? can't quiet make it out in photo note #13, on insert of "back
on the bus, y'all").  she pointed at us from the corner of the stage (she was
hiding behind the speakers), and mouthed the words, "put it away".  so down
went the camera, but only until we thought the coast was clear!  and once
again, bitch..i mean beth (refer to photo #13!!) saw us and was comin' at
us!!!  we quickly popped-out the cassette, put in an old tape, and slipped
the tape into my pocket.
beth finally reached us, and demanded the camera.  my sister and i (who,
together, can be pretty convincing of most anything!), cried, "oh no! this is
mom's camera and we took it without her knowing and she'll be so mad if we
loose it!"  (half true...mom knew we had it).  "you can't tape this show",
said beth, "give me the camera".  "can i just give you the tape instead?" i
said. (old magicians refer to this as "forcing the card")
beth agreed and off she went with footage of mickey mouse and the geek (my
sister's boyfriend), and back we went to recording the show!  i put the tape
back in and held the camera down at my side.  eventually, joy and awe
overcame me as the show progressed, and without knowing it was happening, my
hands went up in the air and started swaying with the music...camera and all!
old beth caught this and back she came (once again the tape went into my
pocket).  she demanded the camera and we told her it had no tape.  she wanted
it anyway and told us we could have it back after the show.  she showed us
where to meet her to get it back.  this turned-out to be a good thing!  in
meeting her for the camera, we were able to gain access to the bar where the
dressing room was for the girls!  (janus landing is in a courtyard of bars
and restaurants)  we hung-out until the girls came down from the dressing
"loft" and i was able to get both of their autographs on my guitar strap (amy
even drew a guitar with a peace sign on it!).
the next night they played again, this time we left the camera in the car and
just enjoyed the show. afterwards, we ran to the car, got the camera, and
were able to catch up with a just as she was getting ready to leave!
sorry this ended up taking so much space...hope you enjoyed it!
stay tuned for more adventures!
~~robin
"crazy game     i never shoulda started to play      but now you couldn't
tear me away"
e.saliers

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from:         ms donna m schwartz <zkaa76a@prodigy.com>
subject:      bio,olympics

hi everyone.  i've been getting this list for a little while, so i
guess it's time to finally reveal who i am.

name:  donna schwartz
town:  new hyde park, long island, ny
age:  26

occupation:  social worker - coordinator of a gay youth project in
bellmore, long island.  (i actually coordinate one of the few if not

only gay youth coffeehouses in a suburban area in the country!)
                    musician:  trumpet.  i got my bachelors in music

from cuny at queens college, and had gone to tanglewood as a young
composer.  i am currently playing the nyc big apple corps marching
band.  (any wind or percussion players out there?  i am trying to
start a long island marching band.)

favorite artists:  ig, of course, r.e.m., joan baez, dar williams,
shawn colvin, melissa etheridge, viva la diva, michelle malone, oasis,

live, pearl jam, natalie merchant

favorite ig songs:  dead man's hill and hey jesus

favorite ig album:  rites of passage and color me grey (boot)

interests:  politics - i am a delegate to the democratic national
convention.  anyone else politically involved?; sports - anyone going

to the olympics in atlanta?

that's it.

take care.

donna

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subject:      re: friday, april 12th
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              apr 5, 96 12:07:11 pm

hmm...

my sister was born on the exact day as amy, same year everything, cool,huh?
mike r.

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subject:      the new ani lp -- dilate -- nigc!

i *just happen to be* listening to a promo advance copy of this - yes, the
goddess of music have blessed me with tickets to ani, bob dylan three times
(twice in the front row at my college!) henry rollins aimee mann (opening
for dylan) this month! i know people are going to go insane when dilate
comes out --- totally awesome production with some excellent songs --
dilate, untouchable face, and joy6ful girl stick out in my mind, but it
really is good and since i am spending the next week finishing my thesis,
this might make it bareable

*watch for a sale of some rare ig soon!*
mike r.

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x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>

the same thing happened to me in a guitar shop.  i walked in with my cousin
and explained that i wanted a steel six string guitar with a solid top, and
i said no more.  the guy whips out a guitar and starts playing _closer to
fine_.  my cousin and i looked at each other and just started to laugh.
both of us are huge ig fans . . . we said nothing to the salesperson . . .
and the first song he plays is the ig!!  must be something in my aura.

alycia


lorinda wrote:
> we didn't play any full songs,
>just kinda touched on ghost, r&j, strange fire, 10k wars.  but we never said
>a word about what we were playing. so a few minutes later the woman
>starts talking about j-models, and she says, "i think that's what they play,
>you know." i looked at her blankly, and she clarifies, "the indigo girls. at
>least one of them plays a jumbo. you know, the black j-40." i about fell out
>of my chair laughing, because the _only_ thing that identified us as ig fans
>was a few halting measures of a few songs. i guess i shouldn't have been so
>surprised that she "caught on." i mean, it _was_ a folk music shop. but it
>really was quite amusing. it's nice to meet a fellow fan...anytime. :)
>

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". . . all legitimate religious study must lead to unlearning the
differences, the illusory differences, between boys and girls,
animals and stones, day and night, heat and cold."

                                            - j.d. salinger

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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 12:27:45 -0800
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      play it again sam

does anyone have the chords and words for this emily song or would be
willing to figure them out?  please email me privately so as not to clog the
list, though i did notice it was one of the few songs not on adam
scneidler's (oh the spelling woes...sorry if i mangled it) list....if anyone
else is interested, i'll be willing to pass it on to them or, if enough are
interested, post it here.  but first i'd have to have the chords and words
to pass on, so any help would be appreciated!

thanks

k
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down came the rain and washed the spider out
out came the sun and dried up all the rain
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reply-to:     jody k baker <bakerjo@caedm.et.byu.edu>
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subject:      rohypnol--extremely important

hey all,

just an addendum to this rape drug discussion. i want to encourage
everyone, particularly those at college, to participate in the "take
back the night" program-(i hope you've heard about it.) i plan on
reading some of this rohypnol info at ours next week and i think it
would be a good forum for getting the word out, not to mention a
wonderful event for raising awareness on the huge rape problem on
campus. do not be complacent!!!

jody

"are you on fire from the years? what would you give for your kid
fears?'
    a. ray

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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 15:03:13 -0600
reply-to:     jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
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from:         jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
subject:      wallace and gromit (nigc)

        rented "the wrong trousers" last night.  you all must try to find
     this video!  gromit's expressions just say it all (they have to, he's
     a dog!).  bought "a grand day out today at the video store.  i imagine
     it will be just as good.  just thought i would reinforce the already
     stated!  oh well...

+--------------------------------------------------------+
+ jeremy fuksa - ect senior                              +
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+ http://win-nt.ets.okstate.edu/leadmill/leadmill.html   +
+ http://www2.okstate.edu/test/reznor.htm                +
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date:         fri, 5 apr 1996 16:18:12 -0500
reply-to:     chousel@grove.ufl.edu
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from:         chousel@grove.ufl.edu
subject:      re: wallace and gromit (nigc)
x-to:         jeremy fuksa <reznor@okway.okstate.edu>
in-reply-to:  <1658aa50@okway.okstate.edu>

yes!! this is a terrific video!! i saw it "trousers" awhile back on a tv
special that featured the guy who wrote and filmed the whole thing and how
he actually makes those clay figures (love that dog!) come to life. it's
really quite an amazing (and tedious) process, and so worth it. the video
is great. rent it!!

christine

on fri, 5 apr 1996, jeremy fuksa wrote:

>         rented "the wrong trousers" last night.  you all must try to find
>      this video!  gromit's expressions just say it all (they have to, he's
>      a dog!).  bought "a grand day out today at the video store.  i imagine
>      it will be just as good.  just thought i would reinforce the already
>      stated!  oh well...

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reply-to:     lethargo-man <sms6@cec.wustl.edu>
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from:         lethargo-man <sms6@cec.wustl.edu>
subject:      rohypnol article (nigc)

the following paragraph comes from the article about rophynol that was
posted yesterday.  i had to take issue with this paragraph for a couple
of reasons.  sorry for the nigc.

> the drug also has the potential to make rapists out of men who
> without the drug might not commit the crime, he said.
> "usually, they aren't the kind of guys who would force themselves on
> someone for sex.  they seem to be the kind of guys you'd see at
> happy hour with their buddies, the kind of frat-boy mentality that thinks
> it's fun to get a girl drunk and have their way."

unless i have made a mistake, the rapist does not take the drug, he uses
it to drug the victim.  if this is so, then to say that it "has the
potential to make rapists out of men who without the drug might not
commit the crime" is an utter lie.  to say this removes responsibility
for the rape from the rapist and places it on the drug.   availability of
means does not "make" someone commit a crime against another.

second, rape is not "forcing themselves on someone for sex".  rape is not
sex at all.  rape is violence.

this is not a flame, just a reaction to what i read, and i realize that
the poster was not the author of the article.  this is just my humble
$.02.

steve

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from:         russ rutter <russ@dexmn.com>
subject:      iwn magazine

i forgot to post the address for check or money order payments--send to
direct expressions
honor the earth
p.o. box 75423
st paul, mn 55101
this is for am,y's & emily's articles in the indigenous women's magazine
peace, russ

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from:         "kacy n. belew" <kbelew1@ua1vm.ua.edu>
organization: the university of alabama, tuscaloosa, al
subject:      rooms for jazzfest?
in-reply-to:  message of fri, 5 apr 1996 00:00:23 +1900 from
              <listserv@netspace.org>

         you guys are paying $132 a night? where are you staying? good lord.
  here's a hint: get the numbers for small hotels and motels in the no
  surrounding areas. there are still rooms left...a few...and for a bit cheaper
than this.  you just have to make a few phone calls and do it for yourself...
not depend on someone else to find it for you.
         just thought i'd give a few hints...don't bomb my mailbox please.

                                                  -the same list lurker

  -- a far out trip through a hard rock tunnel --

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from:         ron johnson <ronjohns@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: rohypnol--extremely important

as a side note, the male members of this group need to speak up when
they hear those locker room stories about "she past out so i . . ."

please don't be complacent.  the person you may save could be a sister,
cousin, aunt, friend, and more importantly,  a human being.

>----------
>from:  jody k baker[smtp:bakerjo@caedm.et.byu.edu]
>sent:  friday, april 05, 1996 12:50 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       rohypnol--extremely important
>
>hey all,
>
>just an addendum to this rape drug discussion. i want to encourage
>everyone, particularly those at college, to participate in the "take
>back the night" program-(i hope you've heard about it.) i plan on
>reading some of this rohypnol info at ours next week and i think it
>would be a good forum for getting the word out, not to mention a
>wonderful event for raising awareness on the huge rape problem on
>campus. do not be complacent!!!
>
>jody
>
>"are you on fire from the years? what would you give for your kid
>fears?'
>    a. ray
>
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in-reply-to:  <1658aa50@okway.okstate.edu>

on fri, 5 apr 1996 15:03:13 -0600, jeremy fuksa wrote:

>        rented "the wrong trousers" last night.  you all must try to find
>     this video!  gromit's expressions just say it all (they have to, he's
>     a dog!).  bought "a grand day out today at the video store.  i imagine
>     it will be just as good.

yeah, absolutely charming !

saw 'toy story' tonight - in animated clay it would have been a cool
movie, fully digital it's just too slick, smells like plastic (except
the dog :)).

brought both videos on a visit to a foster home i once worked, and
though the kids usually watch several hours of low quality tv every
day, they spent that hour open mouthed.

there is a new one out, title is something like 'w&g among sheep '.

georg

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subject:      seattle stuff again folks....nigc

someone gave me their telephone number and advice on some really good
clubs...i need the number again, i would like to give you a call.    i will
see y'al in a week.  send me good thoughts about making it in seattle.
remember i am from boise, the thought of 7 lane highways sends me into a
tailspin.  :o)  hey all of you seattle people, what can i expect for weather
wise next week?  talk to you all soon....

so happy that it is friday.....pooh

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subject:      nigc: dar tour dates

hey folks,

  since there is lots of interest in dar, not everyone is on her
mailing list, and i haven't seen it here yet...here is her spring
schedule (also instructions on getting on her announce list).

                        enjoy,

                          chris

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forwarded message:
> from dar-announce-owner@pobox.com sat apr  6 05:41:58 1996
> date: sat, 6 apr 1996 03:44:45 -0500
> from: owner-dar-announce@pobox.com
> message-id: <199604060844.daa05427@pobox.com>
> subject: dar williams tour dates
> sender: owner-dar-announce@pobox.com
> precedence: bulk
> reply-to: ferg@world.std.com (mark e ferguson)
> apparently-to: dar-announce-outgoing@pobox.com
>
> dar williams  solo spring tour, 1996
>
> 4/16 nashville, tn.  bluebird cafe.  615-383-1461. 9:00 pm
> 4/17 columbus, oh. ludlow's cafe. 614-224-3808.  8:30 pm
> 4/18 ann arbor, mi.  the ark.      313-761-1451  7:30 & 9:30 pm
> 4/19 chicago, il.  schuba's tavern. 312-525-2508 extension2.  8:00 pm
> 4/20 st. paul, mn.  macalester coll. janet wallace aud.  612-379-3951 8:00 pm
> 4/21 lawrence, ks.  west side presbyterian church.  913-842-1163. 4 & 7:30 pm
> 4/23 los angeles, ca.  the troubadour. 310-276-1158. 8:00 & 9:45 pm
> 4/25 santa barbara, ca.  soho nightclub.  805-962-7776. 8:00 pm
> 4/26 santa rosa, ca.   luther burbank center.  707-546-3600.  8:00 pm
> 4/27 monterey, ca.    venue t.b.a.  408-373-1479. 8:00 pm
> 4/28 san francisco, ca.  great american music hall. 415-885-0750.  8:00 pm
> 4/30 davis, ca.   the palms playhouse.  916-756-9901.  8:00 pm
> 5/1 carson city, nv.   brewery arts center.  702-883-1976.  7:00 pm
> 5/3 eugene, or.   the wild duck.  541-485-3825.  8:00 pm
> 5/4 portland, or.  the alladin theater.  503-234-9698. 8:00 pm
> 5/5 seattle, wa.  kane hall. 206-528-8523.  8:00 pm
> 5/6 vancouver, bc.  w.i.s.e. hall.  604-736-3022.  8:00 pm
>
> dates upcoming:
> 5/30 houston, tx
> 5/31 carrollton (dallas), tx
> 6/1 corpus christi, tx
> 6/2 kerrville (tx) folk festival
> 6/4-5 austin, tx
> 6/8 tampa, fl
> 6/9 decatur, ga
> 6/10 asheville, nc
> 6/11 greenville, sc
> 6/13 alexandria, va
> 6/14 wilmington, de
> 6/15 columbia, pa
> 6/16 hudson river revival, valhalla, ny
>
> more to come, including:
> winnipeg, edmonton, owens sound, rocky mountain folk fests,
> mi womyn's music festival... and more!
>
> always call ahead to make sure the date's still on, that the time is correct
> and whether or not there are tickets still available.
>
>
> internet discussion group
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>
> if you would like to join dar's electronic discussion group, where fans
> gather to share opinions and info about dar's music, please send e-mail
> to majordomo@world.std.com with this command in the message body:
>
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> for the digest version, use this command:
>
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> you'll receive a "welcome" message containing lots of useful info, and be
> able to converse with dar's fans from all over the world.
>
>
> world wide web homepage
> -----------------------
>
> if you have access to a world wide web browser, you are invited to
> visit the dar williams website.  it's packed with articles, photos,
> music samples, and lots more.  the url is:
>
>        http://www.panix.com/~tneff/dar/
>
>
> thanks again for your interest!
>
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subject:      speading the gospel (nigc, again!)

hello!
      you know, this has become quite a trend for me, i fear... nigc should
not always adorn my posts... alas, i fear i am a creature of habit... =]
okay, my point... there i was ("there i was, there i was... _in_ the congo")
at work this afternoon listening to one of my newly acquired mixes, when
something dawns on me... here's the idea.  i would like to compile a tape.
novel, eh?  just wait.  it gets a little better.  on this tape i would like
to feature lesser known and/or local artists.  say you have a friend in a
band and the band is truly great, but you are among the group of the _same_
six people in attendance at _every_ performance... i would like to include a
song by his or her band.  or you and your friend bob perform at open mike
nights and want to share your music with other people.  this might be your
vessel to stardom. ;)  or you have no friends, but you play a mean accordion.
i would like to tap into this talent.  i actually found a jazz cd of a trio
that plays at a mcdonalds in west virginia, and i think everyone should have
an opportunity to hear them.  if you have are someone or know someone who
would like to share his or her works with more people, or think a local
artist in your area is the bomb and feel like the whole world should be aware
of it, i want to include a song by that person.  musical genre is irrelevent.
am i making sense?  maybe whoever wants to contribute should send a tape
with the song he or she feels should be included, or a single or a whole tape
(if he or she is feeling charitable, for i cannot afford to fund this- only
to compile it!) and i can pick out a song or two... does this sound like an
idea to anyone out there?  also, in the liner notes, i would include all
necessary info about labels and places of origin and, if the artist would
agree, a contact, so if any of the lucky recipients wanted more info, it
would be easy to get in touch with a representative or something like that...
i know i'm rambling, but either post or e-mail me if you like the idea or
hate it or would like to contribute, and we'll see what we can do. =)  peace,
love, and sharing, sarah (notice i didn't say "butter biscuit".  see?  no
obsession here! =))
p.s. sorry if i've posted this twice, but it didn't work the first time, i
don't think.


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subj:    speading the gospel (nigc, again!)
date:    96-04-06 00:28:49 est
from:    sanawike1
to:      indigo-girls@netspace.org

hello!
      you know, this has become quite a trend for me, i fear... nigc should
not always adorn my posts... alas, i fear i am a creature of habit... =]
okay, my point... there i was ("there i was, there i was... _in_ the congo")
at work this afternoon listening to one of my newly acquired mixes, when
something dawns on me... here's the idea.  i would like to compile a tape.
novel, eh?  just wait.  it gets a little better.  on this tape i would like
to feature lesser known and/or local artists.  say you have a friend in a
band and the band is truly great, but you are among the group of the _same_
six people in attendance at _every_ performance... i would like to include a
song by his or her band.  or you and your friend bob perform at open mike
nights and want to share your music with other people.  or you have no
friends, but you play a mean accordion.  i would like to tap into this
talent.  i actually found a jazz cd of a trio that plays at a mcdonalds in
west virginia, and i think everyone should have an opportunity to hear them.
if you have are someone or know someone who would like to share his or her
works with more people, or think a local artist in your area is the bomb and
feel like the whole world should be aware of it, i want to include a song by
that person.  am i making sense?  maybe whoever wants to contribute should
send a tape with the song he or she feels should be included, or a single or
a whole tape (if he or she is feeling charitable, for i cannot afford to fund
this- only to compile it!) and i can pick out a song or two... does this
sound like an idea to anyone out there?  also, in the liner notes, i would
include all necessary info about labels and places of origin and, if the
artist would agree, a contact, so if any of the lucky recipients wanted more
info, it would be easy to get in touch with a representative or something
like that... i know i'm rambling, but either post or e-mail me if you like
the idea or hate it or would like to contribute, and we'll see what we can
do. =)  peace, love, and sharing, sarah (notice i didn't say "butter
biscuit".  see?  no obsession here! =))

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subject:      birthdays

hi y'all!  if anybody wants to be added to the bday list, privately email the
date (year is optional) to me.  please spell out the month, e.g. april 6,
1996....i include an ig quote in every bday greeting but i either choose it
randomly or choose one from the song of the day.  i do this because 1) it
gives it igc :),  2) it's really difficult to decide what to say (it's like
signing a bday card for someone you don't know), and 3) if a quote fits,
great, if not, feel free to flame me openly or privately :) also, if i get
the date, address, etc wrong, or, if your bday gets missed  (one of my worst
nightmares), i'll accept your wrath.  thanks! rachel :)  p.s. feel free to
include your favorite ig song... suggestions are always welcome :)

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subject:      intro

oh no.....not another life history!!!! :-)  here's mine:

name:  linda perrine  (nickname of pirhana has been with me forever)
sex:  not much lately....oh, i mean female
location:  santa clara, ca (aka silicon valley) currently.....grew up
in massachusetts, went to college at u. of new hampshire, lived 10 years in
houston, tx, moved to ca last summer
age: 32 (same age as emily; year older than amy)
occupation:  betwen 9-5 software engineer at adobe systems; remaining time
learning guitar and playing ig music (makes me wonder how good i could
have been if i started playing as early as they did...);  hiking and
camping, volunteering, appreciating northern california, reading ig e-mail,
searching for mr. right...
most recent book read:  "the fifth sacred thing", by starhawk
(excellent book if you need a book recommendation; most everyone on this
list would really like it - write me if you want more details or if you've
read
it and want to discuss the message in the story)
pets:  none, but want one constantly (my lease doesn't allow it)
favorite ig songs:  ghost, strange fire, left me a fool, blood & fire
(all of them really, there isn't one i don't like)
questions i would ask a&e if i ever met them:
  - what do you enjoy about the other's music?
  - how do you go about writing a new song?

see y'all on may 2&4 in "n'awlins"!!!
i'll be in the 11th row, seat 1&2 with my mom!
you'll know its me if you see a black daemon records t-shirt and i'm
singing my guts out!

linda perrine
lap@ix.netcom.com

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subject:      speading the gospel (nigc, again!)

hello!
      you know, this has become quite a trend for me, i fear... nigc should
not always adorn my posts... alas, i fear i am a creature of habit... =]
okay, my point... there i was ("there i was, there i was... _in_ the congo")
at work this afternoon listening to one of my newly acquired mixes, when
something dawns on me... here's the idea.  i would like to compile a tape.
novel, eh?  just wait.  it gets a little better.  on this tape i would like
to feature lesser known and/or local artists.  say you have a friend in a
band and the band is truly great, but you are among the group of the _same_
six people in attendance at _every_ performance... i would like to include a
song by his or her band.  or you and your friend bob perform at open mike
nights and want to share your music with other people.  or you have no
friends, but you play a mean accordion.  i would like to tap into this
talent.  i actually found a jazz cd of a trio that plays at a mcdonalds in
west virginia, and i think everyone should have an opportunity to hear them.
if you have are someone or know someone who would like to share his or her
works with more people, or think a local artist in your area is the bomb and
feel like the whole world should be aware of it, i want to include a song by
that person.  am i making sense?  maybe whoever wants to contribute should
send a tape with the song he or she feels should be included, or a single or
a whole tape (if he or she is feeling charitable, for i cannot afford to fund
this- only to compile it!) and i can pick out a song or two... does this
sound like an idea to anyone out there?  also, in the liner notes, i would
include all necessary info about labels and places of origin and, if the
artist would agree, a contact, so if any of the lucky recipients wanted more
info, it would be easy to get in touch with a representative or something
like that... i know i'm rambling, but either post or e-mail me if you like
the idea or hate it or would like to contribute, and we'll see what we can
do. =)  peace, love, and sharing, sarah (notice i didn't say "butter
biscuit".  see?  no obsession here! =))

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date:         sat, 6 apr 1996 08:16:23 -0500
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from:         larissa brown <lbrown9787@aol.com>
subject:      help!-nigc-sorry!

i know that once before i emailed yall because i thought i'd been
un-subscribed, but now i'm pretty sure i have and i cannot get the listserv
to respond to any of my mail at all...is anyone else having weird problems?
oh, i think you have to mail me privately, cause neither do we want to bore
our friends with this any more than i already have, nor will i get the
message if you send it to the list!!


thanks

-larissa

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date:         sat, 6 apr 1996 12:44:02 -0500
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from:         wyohknott@aol.com
subject:      testing. . .

have i fallen off the list again, or have you all just gotten reeeeeeeally
quiet after too much partying last night?

or is "partying" too strong a word?

tripping in these yellow feet,
                 danna

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date:         sat, 6 apr 1996 15:27:42 -0500
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subject:      ga music hall of fame
in-reply-to:  <199604061810.naa31447@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at apr 6, 96 01:08:41 pm

hey all,

just heard about the georgia music hall of fame opening up in good 'ol
macon, ga next year. the ig section may be small, but i'll be there
anyway. first ig is illumionated in cheesy laser lights at stone mountain
park and now this. woo hoo!

btw, anyone going to see viva la diva in athens this coming wednesday?

bio, (in with the out crowd :)

name: sharon goh
        georgia tech student, cooping with kimberly clark
corp...free tampons, yes! woring 2 exits away from alabama, orginally from
dc area, love dissapear fear, kristin hall, melissa etheridge, vld, paul
simon, brahms, and the local atlanta music scene.
saw naomi wolf last week, never thought the history of the clitoris would
be so interesting...
                                sharon aka mr. pink ( you know reservoir dogs)

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reply-to:     sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
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from:         sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
subject:      intro

name:  sharon a jennings
sex: female
location:  born in leicester (pronounced less ter) england. lived in oxford
(where i worked as a research chemist for a pharmaceutical company) for a year
and nottingham for two years.... i'm a graduate student at nottingham
university. however due to good behaviour and a fulbright scholarship i'm in
the usa for a year.... presently living in austin, texas but soon to move to
greenville, south carolina.... getting closer to atlanta all the time !!
age: 25... born on new years eve 1970... my mother claims it's the one and only
time she has been out on new years eve :)
occupation:  graduate student in cancer research.
books : sci-fi and anything by tolkein or terry pratchett... haven't met an
americans yet who know who he is :) anyone out there a fellow discworld reader?
pets: two goldfish called itsy and bitsy (thanks dad for looking after them
while i'm away)... and a half share in my sisters rabbit  who is called scratch
for obvious reasons. we rescued two badly treated rabbits from their owner at
christmas and took them to a rabbit sanctuary because we didn't have the space
to keep them. i named them amy and emily... sadly amy died three weeks ago.
favorite ig songs : strange fire, blood & fire, hand me downs, keeper of my
heart... ok i admit it i like any amy song. favourite emily song ... crazy
game.
favourite artists : the list is endless...ig of course, suzanne vega, shawn
colvin, mary chapin carpenter, nanci griffith, melissa etheridge, danielle
howle, clannad/enya, caroline aiken, kristen hall, wendy bucklew, james hall,
catie curtis who i have only just descovered... what a find :) always willing
to listen to new things.
hobbies : listening to music, shoto ryu karate (2nd kyu), learning to play the
guitar... i play like i have two left hands... neither of which actually belong
to me and of course reading terry pratchett books.

see y'all on may 2 & 4 in new orleans!!
i'll be in the 16th row probably wearing a black daemon t-shirt.... i really do
like that shirt. i'll also be staying at the hotel bert has organised, so say
hello to me. i'll be the one with the funny accent speaking english :)... or
maybe it will be the other way around... y'all be the ones with funny accents
not speaking english :)... swiftly puttting on my flame proof lab coat :)
anyway i'm really looking forward to actually meeting some of you face to face.

take care
sharon

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date:         sat, 6 apr 1996 14:20:55 -0800
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subject:      new orleans schedule?

hey ya'll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
does anyone have any word on the actual schedule for the may 2nd show yet? the
page i went to said it was available, but that was all it said. duh!!
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....for any joan osborne fans out there like me who can not
get enough joan in one day, she's also gonna perform on the 4th at the
fairgrounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yippee skippy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i t  i s  s o  c l o s e ! ! ! ! !

:) turning to a little nigc...
1."faithful" with cher? beware of dangling microphones.
2."200 more miles" -the live cowboy junkies album. yes!!!!!!!
3.i can't remember what 3 was.

okay, so this probably isn't one of my best letters but that's o.k. because i'm
good enough, i'm smart enough & dog gone it i'm gonna see amy and
emily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
t w i c e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the first time!!! aaaahhh!!!!!!!
we now return to our regularly scheduled normal stuff.

rick
row 18 seat 11. ;)
****if i had a choice i'd take the voice i got 'cause it was hard to find.
i've come too far to wind up right back where i started****j.napolitano
wow! rick has a home page!!  http://home.aol.com/rbsayre

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date:         sat, 6 apr 1996 17:09:55 -0800
reply-to:     sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
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from:         sharon <sharon@newt.phr.utexas.edu>
subject:      writer's night

did anyone catch the writer's night at eddie's attic on thursday the 4th of
april? according to the website amy and danielle howle played. amy is scheduled
to play on the 24th with michael lorant and sheila doyle.

sharon

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subject:      goodbye for a week..

see you all in a week.....

pooh

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subject:      bio # 2345234523452
in-reply-to:  <096.05260907.zkaa76a@prodigy.com>

well i've been here for a while and not contributed too much but thought
you'd all just love another bio........

so here it is...

name: curtis lord
age: 21
occupation: well i'm a residence assistant at my university soi'm a
student too!  2nd year bba major  in management  at st francis xavier
university (antigonish, n.s. canada)
place of habitation: antigonish, nova scotia canada (no i don't fish for
a living)
fav music: ig, neil young, midnight oil, stephen ferring, tracy
chapman, myles davis..... and anything of quality or with good lyrics!

fav books: none really! i do however read and i just like to read a good
story, bio's are good and i like to read about peoples experiences in
strange places.

pastimes: not team sports, i like canoeing, skiing, hiking, playing
guitar, hanging out on the grass in a park, playing guitar ect ect

anyway there you go my pathetic attempt at a bio...
p.s. write me if you have a summer job that i can have!!!!!!!


                                 xxx         xxx
curtis a. lord                     xxx     xxx
x94pxh@juliet.stfx.ca                xxx xxx
                                       xxx       marks the spot
sailing the seas of                  xxx xxx
st. francis xavier u.              xxx     xxx
antigonish, nova scotia.         xxx         xxx

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