lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-05a


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date:         tue, 30 apr 1996 23:58:10 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      my long-winded and belated bio...

ok, i guess it's better late than never for my bio, right?  well, here goes...
(i'm warning y'all, i'm somewhat long-winded (like you haven't ever noticed)(g)

name:  joan morrison  (nickname "joanie" ...yes, you may call me that if you wish)
birthdate:      january 29, 1966  (yes, i just turned the big 3-0)

domecile:       nashville, tennessee since 1992; native of ashland, kentucky
livelihood:     paralegal  (worked as a free-lance news photographer before that)
my heart's work: writer, photographer, (i worked in journalism and radio before
                 i decided i needed to go back to school and study something
                 that would provide me with a decent living...guess it's kind
                 a trade-off as far as money/stimulating work goes...)
favorite music/artists:  indigos of course(g), melissa etheridge, neil young,
                mary chapin-carpenter, rem, stevie ray vaughan, bonnie raitt,
                gin blossoms, etc.etc. - there are too many to name...basically,
                folk-rock, singer-songwriters, rock, alternative, blues,
                some of the newer punk, oh yeah - country "fringe" stuff like
                radney foster, emmylou harris, lyle lovett, etc.  just about
                everything except rap, hip-hop, mariah carey music and opera!
interests:      music, photography, writing, history, politics, current events
                and social issues, religion/spirituality, native american
                history and culture (finally went to a pow-wow last fall),
                environmental issues (especially the preservation of our national
                parks in the us), the outdoors, hiking, mountains, birds, animals,
                community service, mild sweet cigars, imported beer, atlanta braves
                baseball, ky wildcats basketball, nba/ncaa basketball, etc. etc.

what i love most about the list:  all the wonderful people i've come to know.
                i've never seen such a sense of community among the people
                here.  an extremely welcoming, compassionate, witty, cerebral,
                spiritual, giving, and interesting group of people!  i'm happy to
                call this place my "cyber" home:)

had i not subscribed to this list around the first of the year, i probably
would never have found out about the new orleans concert.  five months later,
not only am i going to see my two favorite artists/people, but i will be
getting the opportunity to meet, hang out and bond with all kinds of nifty people
from the list.  i feel blessed to have found this list.  ok, end of dissertation!

peace, moo and three more days till i leave for n.o.,

joan morrison :p

p.s. - if you've lasted this long and are still awake, thanks!

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date:         tue, 30 apr 1996 23:56:52 -0400
reply-to:     104241.302@compuserve.com
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from:         linda bessette <104241.302@compuserve.com>
subject:      favorites

well i just put in nis and feel great. hearing "hammer and a nail " gets
me pretty psyched for spring, to get out into the world and do something.
i'm not really sure what i want to do yet but i think i'll get there!!!

have a great time in no

linda

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 14:02:56 +0011
reply-to:     jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au
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from:         "indigo-girls@netspace.orgida" <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>
organization: dept. of agriculture victoria
subject:      just another  thought...

> lorindigo asked us all...
> "my question is...why do we like music that makes us wanna cry?"

it's like the virginia woolf stuff.  their words and experience
speak to me in my space and i know that someone else is with me
through time.

sue

> my answer...
> cuz then we know we're not alone.
>
> just a thought
> take care
> lisa :)
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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 00:38:50 -0400
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: reunion

in a message dated 96-04-30 11:42:47 edt, corinne writes:

>have fun in no.  someone write down the setlist and post it so we can at
>least fantasize that we were there.  ooh, and remember what they were
>wearing.

ya know...... i've often wondered....why does ms ray seem to wear
the exact same clothes onstage for the duration of a tour ??????
....is it some kind of baseball-type-good luck-superstition thang....
or maybe ecomomy of packing the ol' suitcase????

claire
who has far too many more important things to do than wonder about
things like this...exactly...gotta go repack my suitcase for no again :)

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date:         tue, 30 apr 1996 23:47:49 -0500
reply-to:     anne haines <ahaines@indiana.edu>
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from:         anne haines <ahaines@indiana.edu>
subject:      national women's music festival (nigc)

are any listmembers considering coming to the national women's music
festival? it's june 6-9, on the indiana university campus here in
bloomington, indiana, usa. i go every year and it's a great time.

unlike some women's music festivals, men can & do attend this one. (i'm
saying this as a point of info in case any male-type listmembers, or
anti-separatist listmembers, might be thinking about coming-- i'm not
making any statement that a women-only festival is better or not as good,
and really don't want to start that discussion either... *smiles winningly*)

info on costs, performers, and any other details you might want to know
can be found at http://a1.com/wia --note that is a numeral one after the
a, and not the letter l.

if any of y'all are coming, drop me a line and we'll do lunch or something.

cheers,
anne in indiana

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"...spin the bottle steal the kiss postcards to the one i miss forever
    don't you write it down remember this in your head don't take a picture
    remember this in your heart i'll leave a message when everything comes
    apart..."            indigo girls, "dead man's hill"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ahaines@indiana.edu~~~

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 00:42:50 -0400
reply-to:     s a r a h <scady@umich.edu>
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from:         s a r a h <scady@umich.edu>
subject:      have fun in no!

i just wanted to say, for those of you who are lucky enough to go and who
are still around, have fun! for the rest of us unfortunate ones. not only
am i a financially challenged college student, but i am geographically
challenged as well as exam-challenged! with finals coming up, tonight i
will be dreaming about taxation, public expenditure, government
intervention, and everything else related to economics while tomorrow
night i switch to problems such as "is it a bad thing to die?" and "what
is 'good'?" wish me luck! :) and i wish you all a fantastic time. also, i
will be leaving the list for the summer, so i want to bid everyone
"adieu".. though i never post i will surely miss reading everyone else's
posts. thanks to everyone for their wisdom and insight! i need to go and
try to get some sleep here.. this week seen the truth behind "the hardest
to learn is the least complicated"! :) bye bye...

sarah

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 14:37:15 +0011
reply-to:     jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au
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from:         vida <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>
organization: dept. of agriculture victoria
subject:      nigc (a little bit) - ellen james society etc

g'day y'all

thanks in advance for your collective patience.  i am thinking of
buying some cds from the us  which will cost me an arm and a leg to get to my
letter box in oz so i am searching (and who isn't) for some
qualitative feedback before i tax my plastic and exercise my faith in
international airmail ;-).

having every ig cd purchasable in oz, i am after more of this
fantastic stuff.

i see on the daemon records www site that many of those artists
play/have played with a+e.

danielle howle, michelle malone, ellen james soc etc are they in a
similar genre and what would anyone recommend?

thanks in advance.
sue

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 01:33:55 +0000
reply-to:     hllee@cove.com
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comments:     authenticated sender is <hllee@cove.com>
from:         harry lee <hllee@cove.com>
subject:      each soul has its place

.
i never cease to be amazed/amused at how it has always been female
musicians who wrote the music that resonated through my soul.  in
particular gay women i don't think i'd've survived adolesence without
laura or my late thirties early forties, and some of the strangest
times of my lief without ig and melissa.
i've rcently become disabled, and it still seems like they're singing
to me.  i guess the bottom line is we're all people
any nez fans here or is admitting you admire a monkee declasse here?

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date:         tue, 30 apr 1996 23:00:27 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: here it is!!!!!
x-to:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
in-reply-to:  <199604302328.taa23316@ns1.ptd.net>

i like "i will not be complacent"
ben

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date:         tue, 30 apr 1996 23:23:00 -0700
reply-to:     heather coughlin <hac2@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         heather coughlin <hac2@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      i just noticed something.

with all the discussion about the songs which make us cry, i decided to
play a few of those songs, a couple of which happen to be on so.  so i
was listening to the album, cranked up for all of my roommates to hear (i
have almost competely converted them to igism  :)  ), i noticed something
that had never caught my attention before.  there is a little, split
second blurp at the beginning of power of two that sounds like a laugh.
it's hard to catch, it's just before the sound of fingers sliding on the
strings of a guitar.  has anyone else noticed this?  i could just be
crazy, but it sounds like a laugh.  laugh or not, that little blurp of a
laugh brightened up my day.  funny how sometimes the smallest details can
have a big impact.
i wish many moos to those going to no.

save the lemmings foundation
heather a. coughlin - janitor

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 15:56:56 +0011
reply-to:     jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         vida <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>
organization: dept. of agriculture victoria
subject:      re: each soul has its place

yep
> i never cease to be amazed/amused at how it has always been female
> musicians who wrote the music that resonated through my soul.  in
> particular gay women i don't think i'd've survived adolesence
> without laura or my late thirties early forties, and some of the
> strangest times of my lief without ig and melissa. i've rcently
> become disabled, and it still seems like they're singing to me.  i
> guess the bottom line is we're all people

when i'm really upset, angry and depressed i wear out my ig, michelle
shocked  and early melissa cds.

i appreciate them differently when life is happier.  it's the
virginia woolf factor again.

without wishing to thrash the gay thing - i am constantly drawn to
music that these women make - its very good to start with but they
seem to speak with a particular voice that others don't.

(i was listening to some annie lennox yesterday and found that i was bored -
i suppose it was that it had no "voice" - please no flames - it's
omvho.  maybe it was that she lacks the energy the eurythmics had.)

keep on rockin in no
sue

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 01:12:44 -0700
reply-to:     karen <ktongson@ucla.edu>
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from:         karen <ktongson@ucla.edu>
subject:      bio - excitement about this group

i guess i sorta jumped into this whole thing with a "reunion" post before i
properly introduced myself. i'm not too savvy on listiquette, so bear with
me if you could care less. (this'll be a bit long...)

name:  karen tongson (refered to affectionately as "hedgehog" or "hawgie" by
my loved ones...really).

birthdate and place: august 23, 1973 (a virgoan through and through) in
manila, phillipines.

location: i'm currently living in los angeles, (have been for several
years), but am relocating to the san francisco for graduate school.

livelihood: do i have one? :) okay, so i'm a student. actually, i just
finished my undergrad work at ucla in english this past december. while i've
been waiting for my girlfriend to graduate this june, i've been working as a
research assistant for paula gunn allen (a native american author/scholar
here at ucla). this summer, i'll be working as an editor for the thesaurus
of geographic names cd-rom/database at the j. paul getty trust in santa
monica until i move to sf. i'll be entering the ph.d. program in english at
berkeley where i hope to channel my ig obsession into a chapter for my
dissertation on contemporary women writers/musicians. (wish me luck!)

other fave musicians: i'm really into natalie merchant and ani difranco,
(i'm a sucker for female artists who actually *say* something). regardless
of these primary obsessions, my taste in music tends to be pretty eclectic
since my folks and everyone on my mom's side of the family are musicians. i
tend to gravitate towards jazz (esp. ella, coltrane and stan getz), and
"acoustic" music, although i listen to anything from gipsy kings to queer
punk (go team dresch!). i also swoon to kd lang, and groove with deee lite
even though i once played sax in a ska band. oh yeah...i was named after
karen carpenter (no joke).

other things that make life cool: literature, (esp. adrienne rich, 17th
century metaphysical poetry, dorothy allison, native american lit and
contemporary women's lit in general); softball (my girlfriend and i play in
a women's league in santa monica); star trek: voyager (no trekkie jokes,
please!); pro and college basketball (go bruins!); the lakers and the
dodgers; good beer; great friends with good beer; politics; the lesbian
community in l.a.; my upcoming commitment ceremony this july and the ig
music that i have planned as part of the event, (feel free to send
suggestions/ your picks for top 10 ig wedding songs); my beloved jill; and
of course my fellow go-heads in the material and virtual worlds. (big love
to y'all).

why i love ig: emily's self-effacing brilliance, her insight into life, love
and literature, her eloquence, goofiness and unbelievable guitar skills, and
her authentic, versatile voice. amy's ability to say it and play it loud and
proud as well as the way she sounds when she's pensive and gentle <sigh>...
most of all, i love the way a and e put this all together to create
incredible, synergetic moments of absolute intensity and delicacy, rage and
hope, fear and strength, loss and love. (i love the a+e=the alphabet of
feeling thing).

safe and happy journeys to all of you headed to no although i'm
extreeeeemely jealous! (i'm unfortunately "geographically" as well as
financially challenged). many cyberhugs to all of you who've verified my
belief that ig fans are among the most perceptive, funny and intelligent
folks around. :)

best,
kt


________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
product of suburban psychosis. ;-/
________________
ktongson@ucla.edu

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 09:27:01 bst
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      po2

picture the scene:  my second ig show at the t&c club, london - must be
1993(?)...details have faded into the mists of time but i seem to remember
that a&e are playing as a duo for this gig... already i'm in the proverbial
7th heaven...lots of my faves have been played and i'm grinning like an
idiot...without warning they launch into another number ...wait - what's
this....a greedy hush falls over the expectant crowd as we realise it's a
new song....em's playing this really cool little guitar line over the intro
and then starts the lyric...already we know this is going to be really
special...wahay -  chorus time - amy joins in....harmonyharmonyharmony...
yup, that's really really nice...i'm taking in every word...thinking this is
some of the best poetry i've ever heard - so simple yet saying it all...

y'all know the song :)

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************

p.s. have a great time at newo, you lucky lucky people...*turns green with
envy*  i'll be there in spirit!

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 10:41:59 -0500
reply-to:     ms chris m allen <czgc94b@prodigy.com>
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from:         ms chris m allen <czgc94b@prodigy.com>
subject:      happy birthday!!! (may 1, 1996)

-- [ from: chris allen * emc.ver #2.10p ] --

happy birthday mark!!!

"...i've slept in rainy canyon lands, cold drenched to my skin, i
always wake to find a face to calm these troubled lands..."

markt@iinet.net.au
"world falls"
* :) *

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 09:57:50 -0500
reply-to:     rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@uiuc.edu>
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from:         rebecca gaukroger <gaukroge@uiuc.edu>
subject:      re: important petition (nigc)
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.93.960430211121.1275b-100000@osfgh.aber.ac.uk>

well, a copy of it came my way a month or so ago, with different names on
it.  i'm pretty sure the person is going to send it to the board.  his or
her (can't remember which, sorry) e-mail address is there, you could
always write to that if you want to know for sure...but does it really
matter?  'sign it' and send it on.  what's the worst that could happen?

rebecca.
(who's really, really, really annoyed that she can't go to n.o., but
hopes everyone has a cooler than cool time all the same)

on tue, 30 apr 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> hey i'd love to sign this but are you sure it's kosher?   a while ago i had a

> are these the only people who've signed it so far?
>
> mat


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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 17:08:40 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: here it is!!!!!
x-to:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>

"a + e = ig  the alphabet of feeling"

love it...

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with freedom,
kissing the damned.  i said remember this as how it should be."

and lets face it, there would be noone else in the world with this on
their t-shirt except us...

first-front, second-back...that's my vote :)

love helene


"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 17:32:09 +0100
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      racist propaganda on the web (nigc)

anyone out there interested in fighting racism might be interested in
checking out a web page entitled "be wise as serpents" which spreads the most
vicious anti-semitic propaganda which has been seen in recent years.   it
alleges that the protocols are a genuine jewish document (they were forged by
the russian secret police) and that the jews are conspiring to dominate the
world.   the organisation publishing this rubbish calls itself the
"international christian education services".   i have written to the sysop
concerned and he says that to shut the page down would be against free
speech.   i would urge anyone concerned about this to write to the following
addresses:

sysop@pixi.com (the sysop)
bewise@pixi.com (the people publishing the propaganda)

the web page is http://www.pixi.com/~bewise

mat

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 12:51:03 edt
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: reunion..finally

speaking of reunion...

this seems a wonderously appropriate time to inform you all that this morning
i successfully defended my dissertation, and i now have a ph.d. (look mom! i'm
a doctor!:) :) this _does_ have igc because one of the first things i did upon
finishing was to sit down with my guitar (yes, i brought it with me) and play
a rather quiet introspective version of reunion. yes, it does indeed feel
funny.


>     computer lab sidenote:  i just said bless you to a woman who
>sneezed at the computer in front of me.  she's wearing a satan shirt
>(five pointed star and all) and she's kind of just staring at me.  what do
>i do?

>(not that i have anything against satan worshippers or anything.  should
>i have said "go to hell" after she sneezed)  (as la d.g. grande would

and i have to add a little advice to teri, a la seinfeld: following her
sneeze, you could have exclaimed, "you are _soooo_ good-looking!" :)
(i hope y'all watch seinfeld enough to know what the hell i'm talking about.)

i'm off to smell some roses...
folkisgruven,
dr. lorindigo

driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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oh, thanks, go ahead and rub it in some more.  we on the quarter system
still have about a month to go!
happy mayday, everyone.
karey

on tue, 30 apr 1996, jennifer hall wrote:

> oh it feels so good to have graduated !!  < stretch > < yawn > < smile >
>
>  - jen hall
> -------------
> original text
> from verdi@imap2.asu.edu, on 4/30/96 12:58 pm:
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> also remember that third and most dreaded of all excuses
> finals
> ben
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> .....in my amy studies....
i'm changing my major to ig studies!
karey

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isn't it: right side up=wicca, and upside down=satan?
(somebody stop me!--yeah, i'm procrastinating.  but it'd prolly be a good
idea to go take that dang midterm.
wish me luck,
karey

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subject:      re: nigc-  jen hall is a meany!! - - oh yea??

you have graduated when:

1) you have an actual diploma to show, but no one wants to see it

2)  you have a b.a or b.s. diploma when everyone is looking for an m.b.a.
or m.s.

3)  after being promised by professors of big $$$ after graduation, you
find yourself accepting a job for $25,000


and yes, you will experience all 3 of these when you graduate.  plus, if
you thought finals were hard, you'll look back in envy when you're "in the
real world"  ( i always hated that phrase when i was in school, but it's
true).  work, work, work, dressing up, 8-5, bosses, deadlines, etc. etc.
am i wrong guys?  hey, support me here...i wish i had some of the stresses
i had in school.  my f*ck-up's wouldn't get me fired, just a bad grade.  i
wish the work world was as forgiving.

so kick butt on finals, but remember....it gets worse !!!

- jen hall
                ....  who has no finals to take, but am sacrificing 2 precious
vacation days...

p.s.  this is all in jest.  i do understand how hard school is.  i'm
looking to go back for my mba because - oddly enough - i miss the stress of
school.  oh, and yes, i am sick.!!   and a pc nerd !!!!
-------------
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from k645501b@edinboro.edu, on 4/30/96 8:51 pm:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

graduated?
what is that?
(nail bites...is that public relations project due tomorrow?...what exam is
in the morning?....hey, what is today, anyhoo?)

karrie

                         "water retention is not new to me..."
                                  -emily saliers

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subject:      re: hi

-- [ from: chris allen * emc.ver #2.10p ] --

    hi thought i should send a small note saying hi to everyone....hi
..my name is christine allen,most people call me chris ....i reside in
sunnyvale ca near san francisco.. but closer to san jose...i am
29.....other music i like.. well i am really into female performers
these days folk and rock .. some country.... actually i love most music
that has some meaning to it... i am liking heather nova a lot these
days...
    i actually have been a fan of the girls for a long while now.. i
was introduced to them in the spring of '88 with closer to fine...and
fell in love with them. i am not the type of person who gets into
celebrity worship, but i have never before heard anyone that makes me
feel the way amy and emily do...their songs are always fresh and carry
a new meaning for me in the different stages of my life....
    i will be, as rachel has already told you, sending the birthday
announcements for her while she (lucky bum) is in no ..... and although
i am filled with envy,i know she takes us all in spirit with her..(all
of us that can't go that is)and no doubt will be filled with story's
and experiences all waiting to bust out on paper.. and lure us all in
with her.....i can't wait to hear all about it.... best wishes to all
those going and to all of those not able to go well there will always
be a next year....thats what i keep hoping for anyway....  peace to you
on your journey!!
        chris
ps. i have enjoyed reading the thoughts of other ig fans and am
thinking about staying even after rachel gets back.....you seem to be
an interesting lot of people i would enjoy knowing... i look forward to
becoming a part of this family of ig fans... peace!!!(oh yeah this is a
small note for me..oops! vbg....

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand"  thats the best
one......

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subject:      the water is wide (shortest igc ever...)

has anyone noticed the scarey similarity between the
tunes of the water is wide and the hymn when i survey
the wonderous cross??

don't think i've seen mention before...

@}--,--'---

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subject:      re: nigc-  jen hall is a meany!! - - oh yea??

on wed, 01 may 1996 09:20:47 -0500 (cd, jennifer hall wrote:

>you have graduated when:
>
>1) you have an actual diploma to show, but no one wants to see it
>
>2)  you have a b.a or b.s. diploma when everyone is looking for an m.b.a.
>or m.s.
>
>3)  after being promised by professors of big $$$ after graduation, you
>find yourself accepting a job for $25,000

hmmmm, we are a bit on the negative side here, aren't we.  i, on the other
hand, have an m.s. and am making big bucks (a whole $2000 more than $25000!)
i'm also seriously contemplating going back to get my phd. because then i
might be able to get a "real job" if i make enough of the connections i
need!

lisa (the cynic!)
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subject:      leaving...

        well gang, it's beena blast!! i have finals comming up now and i
need to start studying, so i can't answer 60 messages a day anymore.
i will miss you all. and i will be back...

                                                jay ;)

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subject:      **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1

ok, debbie is working hard at getting a design going for the shirts guys and
gals...and this is what we have so far...
the front will be kind of like the cover of the indicated ii cover, graphics
wise..but it will be reworked and refined.....and the list address will be on
the front, possibly with a quote....i believe deb said she is just going to
write "power of two" on the front.  the back is going to be very collagesque
with the following written in:

i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street and i will hold my head high.

(my life is part of the global life)

i will walk down the street and i will say hello to everybody and i will
hold my head high.
i will say hello to everyone

(if the world is night, shine my life like a light)

i will not be ashamed
i will fall down and i will get back up again
i will not be ashamed

(nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal)

i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent

(by grace my sight grows)

and we will not be complacent
and we will not be complacent
and we will not be ashamed

(my place is of the sun)

and we will be alive
and we will be happy
and we will walk down the street
and we will smile and we won't worry about it

(each life has its place)

we will not be racist
we will not be sexist
we will not be homophobic
we will not hate

(the evil ego and the vice of pride
is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?)

we will love we will love we will love we will love
we will love the ones we hate
we will love the ones we hate

(got to learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones ...)

a+e=ig

i think she did a great job!!!!  (applause)
the shirt will probably be done on an earth tone ...maybe tan, with the front
being in black and the back being in two colors (undecided so far).
when the graphics are ready, i will be sure to get them available for the
list's viewing pleasure.
**** so be ready to order the shirts in the near future everyone! they will
be of very good quality, fear not. i will need to collect orders and such and
get an precise idea of how many shirts to have done.  as of now, this
printing will be a one time deal...so please don't miss out :)****

take care all!
rob augino

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1

     i think this is excellent!!!!
     i can't wait to order mine.
     thanks deb for your work on this.
     yvette


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subject: **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1
author:  ncrobino@aol.com at smtpcc
date:    5/1/96 12:41 pm


ok, debbie is working hard at getting a design going for the shirts guys and
gals...and this is what we have so far...
the front will be kind of like the cover of the indicated ii cover, graphics
wise..but it will be reworked and refined.....and the list address will be on
the front, possibly with a quote....i believe deb said she is just going to
write "power of two" on the front.  the back is going to be very collagesque
with the following written in:

i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street and i will hold my head high.

(my life is part of the global life)

i will walk down the street and i will say hello to everybody and i will
hold my head high.
i will say hello to everyone

(if the world is night, shine my life like a light)

i will not be ashamed
i will fall down and i will get back up again
i will not be ashamed

(nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal)

i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent

(by grace my sight grows)

and we will not be complacent
and we will not be complacent
and we will not be ashamed

(my place is of the sun)

and we will be alive
and we will be happy
and we will walk down the street
and we will smile and we won't worry about it

(each life has its place)

we will not be racist
we will not be sexist
we will not be homophobic
we will not hate

(the evil ego and the vice of pride
is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?)

we will love we will love we will love we will love
we will love the ones we hate
we will love the ones we hate

(got to learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones ...)

a+e=ig

i think she did a great job!!!!  (applause)
the shirt will probably be done on an earth tone ...maybe tan, with the front
being in black and the back being in two colors (undecided so far).
when the graphics are ready, i will be sure to get them available for the
list's viewing pleasure.
**** so be ready to order the shirts in the near future everyone! they will
be of very good quality, fear not. i will need to collect orders and such and
get an precise idea of how many shirts to have done.  as of now, this
printing will be a one time deal...so please don't miss out :)****

take care all!
rob augino

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reply-to:     jmiller <s013jem@discgate.wright.edu>
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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!*** read ! update #1
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sounds great!!

jenifer
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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from:         neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      pa list party...

hey :)

for want of any excuse not to work on my dissertation i'd just like
to take this oppertunity to issue an open invitation to a legendary
neily party...

yes, this list party will be held somewhere in lancaster pa this
summer...i just have to find somewhere to live, get a job, and
set a date, but you're all invited. every one of you. start saving
and booking those vacation slots...

i have a feeling i may live to regret this...:):)

@}--,--'---

ps igc...umm...er...
amy and emily will not be making an appearence at this event in person.
repeat. amy and emily will not be attending.
unless they'd like to...

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subject:      nicg - if your name is anna creech, please read this - nigc

hello!
      sorry to use list space, but i got a tape from you without a note...
what am i taping, exactly?  thanks, sarah

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subject:      '96 indigo list shirts!!!!;-)

this is so great!!

i love the idea. that's what i like about ya'll.  you are soooo creative!

great job!  i'm waiting pensively to order!

karrie

                    "water retentionis not new to me..."
                                       -emily saliers

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subject:      water is wide

neily mentioned this tune.  what is it?   i know "when i survey the
wondrous cross,"  but not this.   is it from a boot?

jen

       ???????????????????????????????????????????????
       ?                                             ?
       ? "how long 'til my soul gets it right?"  ig  ?
       ?                                             ?
       ???????????????????????????????????????????????

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1

ok, that sounds great and all, and dont flame me for this, but i thought i
was kinda doing the quotes. if you all that this idea to do the shirts and
the quotes, it wouldve been nice to tell me.... so basically im doing this
for absolutely no reason.  but personally i think that one simple quote is
better than that, but you just do whatever you want.  i dont really wanna
shirt with all of that writing on it, cause i think its kinda pointless, but
its just my opinion. so... fine. w.

at 03:25 pm 5/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
>ok, debbie is working hard at getting a design going for the shirts guys and
>gals...and this is what we have so far...
>the front will be kind of like the cover of the indicated ii cover, graphics
>wise..but it will be reworked and refined.....and the list address will be on
>the front, possibly with a quote....i believe deb said she is just going to
>write "power of two" on the front.  the back is going to be very collagesque
> with the following written in:
>
>i will walk down the street
>i will walk down the street
>i will walk down the street and i will hold my head high.
>
>(my life is part of the global life)
>
>i will walk down the street and i will say hello to everybody and i will
>hold my head high.
>i will say hello to everyone
>
>(if the world is night, shine my life like a light)
>
>i will not be ashamed
>i will fall down and i will get back up again
>i will not be ashamed
>
>(nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal)
>
>i will not be complacent
>i will not be complacent
>i will not be complacent
>
>(by grace my sight grows)
>
>and we will not be complacent
>and we will not be complacent
>and we will not be ashamed
>
>(my place is of the sun)
>
>and we will be alive
>and we will be happy
>and we will walk down the street
>and we will smile and we won't worry about it
>
>(each life has its place)
>
>we will not be racist
>we will not be sexist
>we will not be homophobic
>we will not hate
>
>(the evil ego and the vice of pride
>is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?)
>
>we will love we will love we will love we will love
>we will love the ones we hate
>we will love the ones we hate
>
>(got to learn to respect what we don't understand
>we are fortunate ones ...)
>
>a+e=ig
>
>i think she did a great job!!!!  (applause)
>the shirt will probably be done on an earth tone ...maybe tan, with the front
>being in black and the back being in two colors (undecided so far).
>when the graphics are ready, i will be sure to get them available for the
>list's viewing pleasure.
>**** so be ready to order the shirts in the near future everyone! they will
>be of very good quality, fear not. i will need to collect orders and such and
>get an precise idea of how many shirts to have done.  as of now, this
>printing will be a one time deal...so please don't miss out :)****
>
>take care all!
>rob augino
>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: important petition (nigc)

what petition?


at 09:57 am 5/1/96 -0500, you wrote:
>well, a copy of it came my way a month or so ago, with different names on
>it.  i'm pretty sure the person is going to send it to the board.  his or
>her (can't remember which, sorry) e-mail address is there, you could
>always write to that if you want to know for sure...but does it really
>matter?  'sign it' and send it on.  what's the worst that could happen?
>
>rebecca.
>(who's really, really, really annoyed that she can't go to n.o., but
>hopes everyone has a cooler than cool time all the same)
>
>on tue, 30 apr 1996, indigo jo wrote:
>
>> hey i'd love to sign this but are you sure it's kosher?   a while ago i had a
>
>> are these the only people who've signed it so far?
>>
>> mat
>
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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from:         vida <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>
organization: dept. of agriculture victoria
subject:      (fwd) re: nigc (a little bit) - ellen james society etc

thanks jude
i haven't seen this but i soon will !
sue

>hi. have you seen the ladyslipper catalog of music?  you can order it by e-
>mail:

>info@ladyslipper.org

>their 20th anniversay issue is now out :)

>jude
susan jackel <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>

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date:         wed, 1 may 1996 20:12:43 -0400
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subject:      re: '96 indigo list shirts!!!!;-)

in a message dated 96-05-01 17:39:10 edt, you write:

>this is so great!!
>i love the idea.

okay, i keep getting posts like this, but what idea?  i think i missed it...
could someone mail it this way?  thanks!  peace, love, and happiness,
sarafina

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subject:      info?

hi,

i'm new around here and haven't had much chance to participate since
i'm suffering from that end of semester crunch :) i was wondering
though if anyone could give me any information at all regarding the
ig concert in newport, ri in august.


thanks a lot,
jen

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!*** read ! update #1
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on wed, 1 may 1996, tiffany wrote:

> for absolutely no reason.  but personally i think that one simple quote is
> better than that, but you just do whatever you want.  i dont really wanna
> shirt with all of that writing on it, cause i think its kinda pointless, but
> its just my opinion. so... fine. w.
>

i tend to agree . . . something short, sweet, and to the point . . . one
quote will work perfectly, no matter what it is.

rachel

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subj:    **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1
date:    96-05-01 15:25:47 edt
from:    ncrobino
to:      indigo-girls@netspace.org

ok, debbie is working hard at getting a design going for the shirts guys and
gals...and this is what we have so far...
the front will be kind of like the cover of the indicated ii cover, graphics
wise..but it will be reworked and refined.....and the list address will be on
the front, possibly with a quote....i believe deb said she is just going to
write "power of two" on the front.  the back is going to be very collagesque
with the following written in:

i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street and i will hold my head high.

(my life is part of the global life)

i will walk down the street and i will say hello to everybody and i will
hold my head high.
i will say hello to everyone

(if the world is night, shine my life like a light)

i will not be ashamed
i will fall down and i will get back up again
i will not be ashamed

(nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal)

i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent

(by grace my sight grows)

and we will not be complacent
and we will not be complacent
and we will not be ashamed

(my place is of the sun)

and we will be alive
and we will be happy
and we will walk down the street
and we will smile and we won't worry about it

(each life has its place)

we will not be racist
we will not be sexist
we will not be homophobic
we will not hate

(the evil ego and the vice of pride
is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?)

we will love we will love we will love we will love
we will love the ones we hate
we will love the ones we hate

(got to learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones ...)

a+e=ig

i think she did a great job!!!!  (applause)
the shirt will probably be done on an earth tone ...maybe tan, with the front
being in black and the back being in two colors (undecided so far).
when the graphics are ready, i will be sure to get them available for the
list's viewing pleasure.
**** so be ready to order the shirts in the near future everyone! they will
be of very good quality, fear not. i will need to collect orders and such and
get an precise idea of how many shirts to have done.  as of now, this
printing will be a one time deal...so please don't miss out :)****

take care all!
rob augino

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***

i also tend to agree with shorter verbage on the back. one or two quotes
should suffice. one on the back and possibly one on the front with the
list address. it just seems like the longer version wouldn't be as readable
and meaningful as a simple quote. well, that's just my opinion.

bil

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subject:      re: racist propaganda on the web (nigc)

>anyone out there interested in fighting racism might be interested in
>checking out a web page entitled "be wise as serpents" which spreads the most
>vicious anti-semitic propaganda which has been seen in recent years.   it
>alleges that the protocols are a genuine jewish document (they were forged by
>the russian secret police) and that the jews are conspiring to dominate the
>world.   the organisation publishing this rubbish calls itself the
>"international christian education services".   i have written to the sysop
>concerned and he says that to shut the page down would be against free
>speech.   i would urge anyone concerned about this to write to the following
>addresses:
>
>sysop@pixi.com (the sysop)
>bewise@pixi.com (the people publishing the propaganda)
>
>the web page is http://www.pixi.com/~bewise
>
mat


okay, look.  let me just start by saying that i am jewish, and i of course
hate all anti-semitism/racism/any kind of bigotry.  but.  as ridiculous,
insane or ludicrous these people's ideas may be, they still have just as much
of a right to be on the net as we do.  we may not like their views, but they
still have the right to express them.  the sysop is right -- the web page
should not be shut down.  if we start getting into the business of judging
whose opinions are "morally sound" or worthy of being expressed, we risk
turning into the kind of society that enabled hitler to come into power in
the first place.  because we hate nazism so much, we should ironically be the
first ones to stand up in defense of these morons, not in support of their
views, but in support of their right to voice them.  i'm sure there are some
ultra-conservative jerks like pat buchanan out there that would like to see
a list like ours off the net, for "promoting" homosexuality.  if we start
the game of deciding what voices should or should not be heard, we risk
being one of the ones that is silenced.
          --rachel
http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/2770

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reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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subject:      new orleans envy -- not me!

is it just me or does it seem completely insane to trek half way acros the
country for a concert, and by a group that tours incessantly?? i dunno it
seemns like every one seems to have the "i must see ig in new orleans or,
like, my life will be over" attitude. this isnt a bitch, i totally could
have gone (my sweetheart from years past lives in the french quarter and i
was invited) and i do have the cash (a *surprise grant for 300 dollars
arrived for me monday) but i mean just all that travel seems so long, maybe
it is because i have taken too many long bus trips this semester and i have
pulled a few too many all nighters working on a thesis, but i also have
classes i can't miss and i think my folks would kill if i went to no instead
of paid bills (like the money i still owe from going to new hampshire to
hear my favorite writer talk or the phone bills to get the information to
see said writer, john hockenberry, in a off broadway play in march.


and imagine all the concert tickets you can buy with airfare, esp.
newport...


wanting tapes of course of no, too bad real audio cant b'cast it or someone
couldn't encode it for d/l off a web server (keep it private or perhaps ftp)
ok, ok, i am definitely turning into a computer nerd...let's just say my t3
connection gets pulled in a week and i will be crawling along at 14.4 .....
till next semester.

mike r

the above comments were not to rag on anyone going, because even tho i deny
it i am insanely jealous!

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subject:      trying to locate yen tang...

i hate to waste bandwidth, but i have been trying to get in touch with
yen tang and i've lost her e-mail address.  yen, if you're out there, can you
e-mail me?  thanks!

peace and mooooo,

joan :)

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***
x-to:         bil tonar <ak486@dayton.wright.edu>
in-reply-to:  <9605020224.aa23091@dayton.wright.edu>

no, no, no!  i *love* the longer version!!!  i think that by breaking up
the soc with other quotes, it makes it readable, and whoever said that about
reading people's backs while standing in line, this is perfect!  i'll buy
one, providing i can somehow scrape up the dosh.

just mho,
karey

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subject:      closing my eyes and wishing i'm fine

i...   i.....   i can't take it anymore!!!!!!!
you guys have road trips and i have finals.....you
have jumbalaya and i have fish sticks....you have
emily and i have jay leno..  why this cruel twist??
why?

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subject:      power of two

it's thursday afternoon here in manila, so i think i'll get the ball rolling
on our next song of the day, with i believe is "power of two."

(sidebar: i, too, am part of that group which tends to skip over amy's songs
or, at the very least, not listen to them very intently. takes me a while to
get into her stuff. i think her growth as a songwriter is quite evident in
so, and i liked "reunion" a lot too!)

i was at a bar with some friends a couple of nights ago, and as they were
about to close and we were preparing to pay our bill, "power of two" started
playing on the sound system. it put a big smile on my face -- perfect end to
a very nice evening. though it's not my favorite ig tune, it is an example of
why i love emily's way with words, how she is able to express both the
profound and the typical in an original and eloquent way. we were celebrating
my close friend's graduation from college, so the happy & sweet tone of the
song was quite apropos.

i know this song is generally thought of as the most "commercial" of ig
songs, as it received such wide exposure thanks to bots. for some people,
this fact really detracts from the song & turns them off on it. i was
curious, is this a feeling many people share? what does everyone think?

for a lot of people my age (21), their one impression of the indigo girls is
"power of two." is that a good thing or a bad thing? or neither? i always
tell them that this one song is hardly a representation of the full range,
depth, and diversity of ig music.

any thoughts?

anna

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***  read ! update #1
x-to:         ncrobino@aol.com

          okay, flame me for being stupid, but i thought that tiffany
          was keeping the tally for the no t-shirt quote.  and deb &
          rob are doing something totally different ...a  list t-shirt
          not for any peticular event.

          would someone please thump me on my cyberforehead?
          towanda

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subject:      road trippin'

          the last week in june some friends and i plan on getting in
          the car and driving...i pushing for the south..obviously, i
          have my own little agenda.  any good clubs in
          atlanta/athens/surrounding villages where i might here some
          cool folk-rock stuff?  email me privately...no need to waste
          bandwidth.

          thanks
          towanda
          aka-lisa

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subject:      happy birthday!!!  (may 2, 1996)

-- [ from: chris allen * emc.ver #2.10p ] --

happy birthday joseph!!!

"...i ran in my sleep through shaking tremors, i had the splitting
earth echoing in my ears..."

coyote@catskill.com

* :) *

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subject:      the t-shirt monster

hey,

i think it's cool that this t-shirt idea is getting under way, but
from what i've read, it's quite a mouthful. i think the simplicity
and beauty of the indigo girls music should be reflected on the shirt
as well. my ig concert shirt from the "swamp ophelia" tour is simple
and clear. i think we should consider that.

-andrew west

"there's little relief, burrito supreme"
-toad the wet sprocket

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subject:      nigc: falcon ridge ff

hey folks,

  i just got a flyer from the falcon ridge folk festival and the line
up is pretty amazing!  before i list the details, the girls are not
scheduled to be there, but it looks to be a incredible time anyway.

                                -- chris

p.s.  i tried to get info on newport this morning--they told me to
wait a few weeks.


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* what: falcon ridge folk festival

* where: hilsdale, ny (tri-state corner of ma, ny, & ct)
        3 hours from boston, 1 hour from albany

* when:  july 26, 27, and 28 (fri-sun)
         friday noon, sat & sun 10 am.

* what: "a three day community of folk music & dance at the foot of the
        berkshires.  mainstage concerts, camping, dancing, song-swaps,
        crafts, workshops, family stage, activities for kids, spoken word,
        recycling, comedy, new artists showcase, roots music, music of the
        90's and beyond..."

* featured artists include: (f=friday, s=saturday, n=sunday)

catie curtis sn         magpie sn               roger the jester sn
christine lavin fn      moxy fruvous sn         sloan wainright band sn
greg brown fsn          mustard's retreat sn    shirly lewis experee-ance n
greg greenway fsn       nancy tucker sn         susan mckeown & the
john gorka fsn          the nields fn             chanting house sn
jonathan edwards s      patty larkin fs         susan werner s
june rich fs            pete&maura kennedy fsn  vance gilbert sn
laurie's stories sn     peter mulvey sn         vikki true & the
martin sexton sn        raelinda wood sn          sweet sisters of mercy sn

also: friday night song swap (c. lavin, g. brown, j. gorka, p. larkin + guests)

also: semi-amateur showcase (if you want to play, deadline is may 13)

* cost:

  three day tickets (includes camping) $42 (unitl 6/1)
                                       $47 (until 7/15)
                                       $55 (after 7/15)

  one day tickets friday               $20
                  saturday             $28
                  sunday               $23
                  kids < 12            free
                  kids 12-16           $13
                  student/seniors      -$5 (with id off of 1 day passes)
                  dogs                 $25

* contacts:

        (860) 350-7472  and (860) 364-0366
        falcridge@aol.com

        wanna volunteer?  heather @ (413) 268-0184
                          or email falcridge@aol.com

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from:         kraichert@directs.com
subject:      re: the t-shirt monster

hey,

i think it's cool that this t-shirt idea is getting under way, but
from what i've read, it's quite a mouthful. i think the simplicity
and beauty of the indigo girls music should be reflected on the shirt
as well. my ig concert shirt from the "swamp ophelia" tour is simple
and clear. i think we should consider that.

-andrew west

        ok out of lurkdom i come :) i feel the need to respond to these tshirt
        email things! first i'd like to say that i know deb (the designer
        chick...hi deb!!!) very well. i trust that whatever her little brain is
        conguring up will be of much meaning and not to mention look really
        _way_ super fantastically cool! it seems to me as if she incorporated
        both amy and emily qoutes in the design to create a balance (and to not
        get everyone's undies in a bundle :)

        i must say that i agree that sometimes simple and short is appropriate.
        but nothing i have ever gotten out of the ig's has been simple. they
        write with such meaning and intensity. the shirt will not just be a
        "simple" tshirt...it will, as i said have meaning and make people stop
        and think. that's what we are all about here right?

        ok...phew i feel better now :)

        kira (ducking in lew of flames :)
        kraichert@directs.com

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reply-to:     mandolin <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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from:         mandolin <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
subject:      this endless t-shirt debate...

personally, i kind of like the soc with interjected quotes thing, it's
almost every awesome ig thing!  but, on the other hand, i see where the
simplicity thing can come into play...  but lets get realistic here
folks, as if we're all going to agree on one quote.  one solution that
comes to mind is the list t-shirts for last year said (i think), indigo
girls@netspace.org on the back, along with "i have no need for anger with
intimate strangers" -a.ray.  on the front, i think it said ig or
soemthing, and on the sleeve (ooh!) it said a+e=ig.  maybe we could do
that again... make it a tradition(?)  otherwise, i don't really see all
of us agreeing on one quote.  unless some people want to stop throwing in
suggestions, i mean, shit, practically everything out of amy or emily's
mouth/brain is worth quoting, so we need to start narrowing down here...
(please don't get mad at me, i'm not irate if that's what it sounds like...)
well, i'm not in charge of this undertaking or anything, but i just
wanted to include mho...
looooooov, mandy

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reply-to:     "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
organization: charles river associates
subject:      re: the t-shirt monster
in-reply-to:  <5dc86737011c0e00>

>        i must say that i agree that sometimes simple and short is
appropriate.
>        but nothing i have ever gotten out of the ig's has been simple.

i very much agree with this.  i don't think any of the one or two line
quotes does enough to represent the full range of their music and their
meaning.

count me in as a vote for deb's idea, i think it sounds great!!

  harry a. keates
  charles river associates inc.
  phone: 617-425-3326, fax: 617-425-3132
  email: hak@crai.com

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date:         thu, 2 may 1996 11:19:19 -0400
reply-to:     "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
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from:         "a. nadyne hagon" <ahagon@st6000.sct.edu>
organization: southern college of technology
subject:      all this t-shirt stuff . . .

i dunno, but i think this is all getting a bit out of hand.

first of all, maybe this is just midterm stress speaking {i'm on
quarters, folks, so those of you on semesters are in finals, but i still
have another 5 weeks left!}, but why do folks feel that they must post to
the list "oh, i like this idea!" or "oh, this idea sucks!"

personally, i think that whoever actually sat down and designed a t-shirt
should be commended.  it's no longer a question of who likes what --
because i'm sorry, but i don't think that we could reach a point where we
all agree on the same quote.  it's now a question of "do i like this to
the point that i would pay x amount for it?"  if you don't like the
bloody thing, *don't order it*.  or, make up one of your own.

but, that's how i see things.  i don't intend for this to be a flame {my
mind is too caught up in studying for my statistics midterm friday to
even think about that, but i guess it's also too caught up in that to
sugar-coat this message a bit more}.

side note:
last year's t-shirts were the simplistic type.  front said "folkisgruven"
{and for those folks who thought it was too dated or whatever, i still
get asked about mine}, back had the email address of the list and "i have
no need for anger with intimate strangers", one sleeve had "a+e=ig" and
the other had "net.indigo_girls".  indigo ink on a natural cotton shirt.
nice, imho.  if you like that sort of thing, maybe whoever designed that
would be willing to do another run of it.  {i'm not sure *who* did it
though, i can't for the life of me recall their name.}

nadyne.

ps: one request of the folks who are designing the current one: could you
put up a picture of it someplace?  i don't have indicated ii {well, any of
them, does that make me a bad listmember? ;) }, so i have no idea what
this looks like -- my mental picture might be very wrong. :)

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subject:      2 questions

two quick questions that i can't seem to find the answers to:

1.  what do the letters "soc" stand for?  i know what you all are referring
to (ar's "i will not be complacent" thinger), but i can't figure out what
the letters stand for.  aahhhh!

2.  on the net, the ig's are touted as a "grammy-award winning duo."  what
did they win for?  did they win more than once?  when?

thanks!!

andy

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hey!!! just checking in from new orleans......just got through the
gates......so far have met a few other listers and it looks to be a wild time!

wish you could all be here!

take care

:)
eric

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subject:      re: 2 questions
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> 1.  what do the letters "soc" stand for?  i know what you all are referring
> to (ar's "i will not be complacent" thinger), but i can't figure out what
> the letters stand for.  aahhhh!

to answer your first question, soc stands for stream of consciousness....

don't know the answer to the second ...

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i don't dare enter the great t-shirt debate about content and design, but i
do have one request: make them available in xxl. many thanks.

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subject:      po2

i tried to post this yesterday and i'm not sure if it ever reached the list,
so i'll try again - sorry if i'm repeating myself :)

picture the scene:  my second ig show at the t&c club, london - must be
1993(?)...details have faded into the mists of time but i seem to remember
that a&e are playing as a duo for this gig... already i'm in the proverbial
7th heaven...lots of my faves have been played and i'm grinning like an
idiot...without warning they launch into another number ...wait - what's
this....a greedy hush falls over the expectant crowd as we realise it's a
new song....em's playing this really cool little guitar line over the intro
and then starts the lyric...already we know this is going to be really
special...wahay -  chorus time - amy joins in....harmonyharmonyharmony...
yup, that's really really nice...i'm taking in every word...thinking this is
some of the best poetry i've ever heard - so simple yet saying it all...

y'all know the song :)

*************
seffy
    cod==#
*************

p.s. have a great time at newo, you lucky lucky people...*turns green with
envy*  i'll be there in spirit!

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subject:      re: 2 questions

answer to question #2--- i think
indigo girls (the album with closer to fine) won a grammy.  i think it was
best folk album but not 100% sure.  i believe that was the year when our
beloved ig were nominated for best new artist but the intelligent minds
who really *know* music and make grammy decisions gave the statue to
mili vanilli--the guys who didn't sing there stuff!...]

uh.  i have a question about amy's soc...  this, uhmm, might get me exluded
from true ig fan status, but where exactly did amy "do" her soc...
i have all the record-deal (c.ds--but gwtwotwihh is skipped and so got a little
warped, thank you younger brother...) and a few of those other things....
but i don't know where its from...
i feel like a fool for admiting this but...

i'd love to wear it on the shirt (go shirt maker!!! :-)  )

enjoy new orleans...

cynthia (whose taking the day of from work tomorrow--her birthday---to
go on what was until the other day a mystery romatic getaway to washington dc
with her so.  what a nice guy he is...and a nice birthday gift....:-) )

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subject:      re: the t-shirt monster

at 11:15 am 5/2/96 -0400, harry keates wrote: ( in reply to andrew west's post )
>>must say that i agree that sometimes simple and short is
>appropriate.
>>but nothing i have ever gotten out of the ig's has been simple.
>i very much agree with this.  i don't think any of the one or two line
>quotes does enough to represent the full range of their music and their
>meaning.
>count me in as a vote for deb's idea, i think it sounds great!!

i'll make this short + sweet since my day is a big + bad one... i'll be
lurking for a while, i'm sure ( don't ask ).
count me in on this one too... i love it.
peace all + a great time to those headed for no!!!!
kim.
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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!***
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on thu, 2 may 1996, steve moore wrote:

> but i do have one request: make them available in xxl. many thanks.

i second this request.  (;

btw, congrats on what sounds like a wonderful concept and design, deb!!

one more question:  i'll have to leave the list in about a month, will
there be an address i can write to in order to get one??

thanks!

jenifer
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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date:         thu, 2 may 1996 12:39:47 mst
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subject:      totally random geographical urge...

hi all. i should put nigc, sorry. i just wanted to say that i am from
indiana, which apparently noone else on this list is. i mean yeah, i live
in colorado...but the truth is, i'm a hoosier and proud of my roots, so i
had to at least give one vote for the "state with the most trailers per capita"
in the tally.

better late than never....
susan :)

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

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subject:      re: power of two/t-shirt angst

okay...before i launch into my response to anna's questions re: po2, i have
to respond to this t-shirt angst. personally, i'd prefer something simpler
(do with this advice, what you wish). regardless, i'm the type of go-head
who ends up buying almost anything that involves ig (except for maybe those
neon pink puffy-paint bootleg shirts some guy tried to sell at the universal
ampitheatre show in '93). i know this makes my vote seem pretty pointless
since i've already divulged the fact that i'll be taken either way. just a
thought for those with more lingering doubts...

on to po2...as anna stated,

>i know this song is generally thought of as the most "commercial" of ig
>songs, as it received such wide exposure thanks to bots. for some people,
>this fact really detracts from the song & turns them off on it. i was
>curious, is this a feeling many people share? what does everyone think?

as for the power of two and its "commercial" attributes, i believe that it's
truly difficult to categorize anything by ig as specifically commercial,
regardless of whether it sold better than average for ig singles. i think ig
has a core of listeners who are responsible for their succes (y'all know who
you are!). i do think po2 reached out to those who may not have thought to
listen to ig based on biases regarding their perceived "folkiness" or
lesbianism. nevertheless, the commercial success of anything, be it a film,
novel or song has little to do with its quality, and to me po2 is simply
trademark emily songwriting.

po2 as a song in itself and not as a commercial entity is prevalent in some
of the more major events in my recent life. it represents a sense of
serenity when life was perfect as my girlfriend jill and i were driving home
to see my folks with the cats in the car, and our youngest kitty rudolf
sitting on jill's lap. po2 is also a reminder of how life is random,
imperfect, and when you least expect it, "a fatal crash." the  morning after
this epiphanous moment when all was right with the world, i found our kitty
rudolf dead in my bedroom for no apparent reason. (the vet never found an
explanation either). i don't want to sound like i'm dumping my pain and
pet-death baggage on everyone in this response to the song of the day.

i just think my experience with po2 captures the essence of perfection and
vulnerability which alternately characterize our lives. po2 for me sings
both ease and devastation, and ultimately renewal...(despite some of the
memories of loss it conjures up it's become one of our wedding songs, a sort
of condensed version of all we've been through together). hope this makes
sense, and please, no flames for my personal revalations. what i've shared
is extremely important to me.

thanks for listening,
karen

________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
product of suburban psychosis. ;-/
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subject:      re: you guys will love this- song of the day?
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just had to say, i love reunion and when i first heard it, my first
thought was of the people i went to high school with.  it was at that
moment that i stopped being pissed off at them for my own miserable high
school experience and realized that it was mostly my own "getting to know
myself" phase that had me so wonky.  my classmates were very close minded
(for the most part) and never really had much to do with me, but now when
i go home they all seem so thrilled to see me.  it's really strange.
anyway, about a month after listening to this song repeatedly, i had
someone tell me that amy had written it after attending a high school
reunion, and it all made sense.  that was rambling, sorry, four and a
half hours of analytical chemistry a day will do that to you.
peace and chromatography
january

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hi y'everyone, hi nadyne!

>personally, i think that whoever actually sat down and designed a t-shirt
>should be commended.  it's no longer a question of who likes what --
>because i'm sorry, but i don't think that we could reach a point where we
>all agree on the same quote.  it's now a question of "do i like this to
>the point that i would pay x amount for it?"  if you don't like the
>bloody thing, *don't order it*.  or, make up one of your own.

well i for one could use lots of different ig-inspired t-shirts.  i
agree it may be next to impossible to reach listwide consensus, but this
is also the beauty of this list-- diversity within our unity!  there
isn't just one official list shirt-- we could have as many as there are
people willing to make them.

to those who've volunteered for shirt duties (designing,
quote-collecting, getting the shirts made, distribution), thanks!!!!!
and thanks for asking for our input-- i've liked most of the ideas that
have been offered in response.  what a tough decision to choose among
them!

i think it's also important to remember that folks are responding to the
question of what they would want to buy, since most of us have limited
resources, and that a post of "i'd rather see...", "i don't like...",
etc is input that the producers might value to help them see if certain
ideas have enough support to make them feasible.  that is, we don't have
to say the designs are right or wrong, ("the less i seek my source for
some definitive...") but it should still be ok to say what we would
personally like to see when we're asked for input.  if an idea we like
doesn't make it onto this shirt, we can always try to talk the next
wonderful volunteer into it.  like i said, i can always use another ig-t!

>would be willing to do another run of it.  {i'm not sure *who* did it
>though, i can't for the life of me recall their name.}

jon miner-- thanks, jon!

take care, allaya!
naz

p.s.  tiffany, i see my suggestion (i woke up with a headache...) didn't
make it on to the quote list, heheh...  guess i'll have to think about
offering my own shirt |]!  (please, no orders yet!)

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i like the long version, it's really quite cool, and though it could be
scary to wear around my mid-western presbyterian college campus, i would
hold my head high and not be ashamed.
peace,
january

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subject:      goinggoinggone....

eh-hem,
        this is my last post before i'm outta here.  yes, mommy's picking
me up today and i'm headed for the bay and then headed out of the bay
towards the big easy (probably the very big easy once we're all there).
all of you are in my thoughts and screams this weekend...for each time i
shout "eeemmmmiiilllleeeeee!!!", i'll be thinking of sue and anna and
hedgehog and lorindigo and the rest of you crazies.  and when i turn 21,
the toast will be to my future aa days and the best list in the world.

        satanic sidenote:  i've been getting way too may messages about
my "bless you" satan worship post the other day, folks who have explained
to me that pentagrams (pentacles? telegrams? diaphrams??) do not
symbolize satan.  all i can say is "hey!  i grew up on motley crue so
there!!!!!!"
        irregardless, i bet the flames are hotter here than they are in
hell.  it's okay.  i live in the sacramento valley (108degrees two days
ago)...i'll survive...i think...

i really didn't ask for the anal probe,
teri

"so i drifted down to new orleans...."  -bob dylan

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subject:      nigc ?rdr purchase

ok y'all, i was just blessed with a 20 gift cert to rainy day records
and since i am all the way in seattle wash i would love some recommendations
on what to buy. i don't want something i could get at just any old record
store... i do have the jcs video already... i also have their phone # but
don't want to drive them crazy asking for a list of all the "cool" stuff
in the store.

maybe some recommendations on local indie artists?

thanks-

paulal

pooh did you get my message w/ email address?

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subject:      t-shirts for us poor college saps who will be e-mail-less...

hi everyone!
        i think someone posted awhile ago about getting t-shirts to people
without e-mail this summer, but i lost it...sorry...  so if anyone is willing
to let us know about prices or whatever via snail mail or something, i know
many of us would be eternally grateful.(:

thanks!  you all rock!

happy day,
jennie

aaahhhh....if only organic chemistry didn't exist...aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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subject:      my new jcs video

ok, so i go home after one hell of a day of work and no sleep and what do
i find stuck between the screen and the wood?  a package for me,
fed-exed.  holy cow (moo)! i think to myself, could it be my jcs video?
could it?  could it?

long story short, it was.  ladies and gentlemen, run, do not walk, do not
pass go, do not collect $200, but run full sprint to the nearest
telephone to purchase your very own copy of the latest indigo-kitch!
this is a must have, most especially for all you amy folks out there.
she's incredible.  exercise your rights to american consumer culture and
buy buy buy this video!

yours,

chris ii
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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
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subject:      losing e-mail, but want a shirt??  read!!!!!!
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in a message dated 96-05-02 16:20:10 edt, you write:

>!
>        i think someone posted awhile ago about getting t-shirts to people
>without e-mail this summer, but i lost it...sorry...  so if anyone is
willing
>to let us know about prices or whatever via snail mail or something, i know
>many of us would be eternally grateful.(:

ok, here is the deal...if you will be off the list, but want a shirt when we
get all the info together....please do one of the following.

a. leave me your e-mail address that you will be at over the summer and i
will drop you a line personally when i get the ordering info together.

b. leave me a telephone # that i can get in touch with at, and i will make a
one-time collect call to you letting you know all the details so that you
don't miss out.

c. order now, and send the highest expected price.  the shirts can be
anywhere from $10 to $20 bucks..depending on how many orders we get  plus $3
for shipping priority mail.  now, if you have no other means...send the $23
dollars and i will get a shirt to you...if the shirts end up being
significantly less...(which i hope enough of us will order so that they are
cheaper) i will send you the difference back with your shirt.

thats the best i can do for now guys and girls....i should get a graphic from
deb today or tomorrow....and i will try to put it somewhere where everyone
can see it.

thanks to everyone for their support on the list project!
take care

ig list shirts
c/o rob augino
7504 dunbar rd
wilmington, nc 28405
usa

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date:         thu, 2 may 1996 15:10:28 -0700
reply-to:     gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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from:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      speaking of netiquette (nigc!)(fwd)

hey all:  this was way too funny not to post.  also, since almost
everyone is in no by now, the probability of being flamed for posting
nigc has decreased significantly.  woo hoo! party on the ig list!!  i
left one of the forwards in case someone out there wants to join the anne
rice list (i'm not on it so i cannot endorse it in any way).  enjoy!--gwen
===============================

from: l. m. salopek <lms5@psuvm.psu.edu>
to: multiple recipients of list annerice <annerice@psuvm.psu.edu>
subject: speaking of netiquette....

since one of the topics i try to remind people about is netiquette, i thought
you all might find this a bit amusing :-)

please do not respond on this topic to the list. as it is off-topic :-)


laurie - listowner

  - - the original note follows - -


chris hennessy (chenness@enterprise.powerup.com.au) wrote:
        <http://www.powerup.com.au/~chenness/>

the brothers usas and senda, despairing of the state of usenet, went unto
the mountain at the feet of net.god.  "oh net.god, there is confusion
and sorrow in your place of usenet. the people worship false gods and
knowst not your will."

net.god spoke unto usas and senda. "you playeth the game by net.god's
laws, or the bat will be deposited in the lightless place."

usas, being devout and greatly afeard of net.god, prayed.  "lord, how
am i to know your will?"

and net.god, being wise in the ways of usas, spake thus, "thou shalt
obey the laws of usenet, there being ten, or be damned unto the last
generation," for he is a merciful god.

so did net.god deliver unto usas the commandments.

the ten usenet commandments
---------------------------

1. thou shalt not battle over operating systems.
   i am wise and in my wisdom have created diverse and various operating
   systems. be true unto the chosen system and neither covet nor despise
   your neighbour's operating system.

2. thou shalt not battle over nationalities or tribes.
   i have placed the usenet aside from all things, and granted it unto usas.
   i am blind to the place in which pray, all prayers being equal in virtual
   heaven.

3. thou shalt not flame.
   your net.god has anger in his heart for those who flame without cause
   or who do persecute the spelling of others. in my wisdom i have created
   opinions to be as armpits; your's is warm and secure but thine
   neighbour's stinks. tolerate others as you would be tolerated. flames
   are mine, and i do preserve some good ones for these people.

4. thou shalt not make-$$$$-fast.
   i have made usas wise that the love of money is the root of all evil.
   he who angers his neighbour by the wasting of bandwidth shall anger
   net.god, and also by spamming or cluttering. i reserveth a special hell
   for these, and great shall be their sorrow.

5. thou shalt quote meaningfully.
   net.god loves not the man who taketh more than needed nor he who quoteth
   all, including the sig. render unto net.god what is net.god's, render
   unto usas what is usas; credit senda for he is good.

6. thou shalt e-mail personal prayers.
   i have rendered unto usas the ability to talk to all the peoples of the
   world. i tell you, it is better to whisper into an ear than shout into
   a crowd.

7. thou shalt not me-too.
   make not your prayers to the senda the knowledge of thine neighbour. the
   wisdom of usas is the ability to speak to all people, and to choose to
   speak to one.

8. thou shalt not cross post unwisely.
   the place i grant thee for rec.pets.cats is not the place of
   comp.unix.advocacy.

9. thou shalt not post tests in profusion.
   i giveth unto you the lands of alt.test to learn of your god.  tend to
   usas as i do my calves; let the new gather the strength to stand before
   joining with the herd.

10.thou shalt send complete offerings.
   send not to your god incomplete offerings. if the parts of the sacrifice
   number all the people of the world times ten your god will not be pleased
   to receive all but two. the blessing of net.god is upon he who posts
   fewer large parts that he who posts many small ones.

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date:         thu, 2 may 1996 17:49:27 -0400
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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: nigc, but me :)

x-shameless cd-plug: willy porter, dog-eared dream
lines: 14

reedv@ziavms.enmu.edu wrote:

>i would like...no, i need, for my existence, not 3 million dollars in
>donatoins, but -- a melissa ethridge bootleg.
>does anybody out there have one?  a decently clear me bootleg?

there are dozens of mle bootleg cds... see

    http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.html
                        or
    ftp://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.txt

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subject:      maybe i'm just bitter

ok, they are singing tonight.
i am in erie pa.
hell.
just hell.


8-(

karrie

                         "water retention is not new to me...."
                                     -emily saliers

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subject:      boulder, co (nigc)

sorry to waste bandwith but--
good news, i was just accepted into ucb telecom program. i will be in
boulder on may 6 and i was just wondering if someone could suggest some
cool clubs or coffee houses.
thanks

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subject:      re: you guys will love this- song of the day?
in-reply-to:  <pine.lnx.3.91.960502134617.3617a-100000@mars.hanover.edu>

hmmm...  i feel like i wrote this letter.  it is exactly how i feel about
my high school acquaintances.  that is kinda scary.  even the part about
later hearing amy say that it was written about a high school reunion.
that is so eerie.  the only thing that i wouldn't have written exactly on
this message is the part about analytical chemistry.
amanda

on thu, 2 may 1996, january simpson wrote:

> just had to say, i love reunion and when i first heard it, my first
> thought was of the people i went to high school with.  it was at that
> moment that i stopped being pissed off at them for my own miserable high
> school experience and realized that it was mostly my own "getting to know
> myself" phase that had me so wonky.  my classmates were very close minded
> (for the most part) and never really had much to do with me, but now when
> i go home they all seem so thrilled to see me.  it's really strange.
> anyway, about a month after listening to this song repeatedly, i had
> someone tell me that amy had written it after attending a high school
> reunion, and it all made sense.  that was rambling, sorry, four and a
> half hours of analytical chemistry a day will do that to you.
> peace and chromatography
> january
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: the t-shirt monster

ok, now thats all well and good, but i have some questions...
should i keep doing the list of quotes?
where did you guys come from in designing this???
is it just me, or do most of you guys think that we had already had this
planned out for the most part? where is this "other" t-shirt coming from?????

i mean, its great that you wanna do this, but didnt you realize that we were
already taking care of this??? i have been working on this quote stuff for
weeks now. it wouldve been nice to let me know if you were planning on
taking it over...

tiff
(backing away from the flame throwers)

ps  i think that one or two quotes is better because there arent a lot of
people who are gonna take the time out to read the whole shirt and figure
out what it means, and i'd rather it have one or two that are "true ig" that
will make some type of impression on them than a bunch of meaningless words
on a shirt( i dont think they're meaningless at all, but who's gonna read
them???)


at 09:57 am 5/2/96 -0500, you wrote:
>hey,
>
>i think it's cool that this t-shirt idea is getting under way, but
>from what i've read, it's quite a mouthful. i think the simplicity
>and beauty of the indigo girls music should be reflected on the shirt
>as well. my ig concert shirt from the "swamp ophelia" tour is simple
>and clear. i think we should consider that.
>
>-andrew west
>
>        ok out of lurkdom i come :) i feel the need to respond to these tshirt
>        email things! first i'd like to say that i know deb (the designer
>        chick...hi deb!!!) very well. i trust that whatever her little brain is
>        conguring up will be of much meaning and not to mention look really
>        _way_ super fantastically cool! it seems to me as if she incorporated
>        both amy and emily qoutes in the design to create a balance (and to not
>        get everyone's undies in a bundle :)
>
>        i must say that i agree that sometimes simple and short is appropriate.
>        but nothing i have ever gotten out of the ig's has been simple. they
>        write with such meaning and intensity. the shirt will not just be a
>        "simple" tshirt...it will, as i said have meaning and make people stop
>        and think. that's what we are all about here right?
>
>        ok...phew i feel better now :)
>
>        kira (ducking in lew of flames :)
>        kraichert@directs.com
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: all this t-shirt stuff . . .

at 11:19 am 5/2/96 -0400, you wrote:
>side note:
>last year's t-shirts were the simplistic type.  front said "folkisgruven"
>{and for those folks who thought it was too dated or whatever, i still
>get asked about mine}, back had the email address of the list and "i have
>no need for anger with intimate strangers", one sleeve had "a+e=ig" and
>the other had "net.indigo_girls".  indigo ink on a natural cotton shirt.
>nice, imho.  if you like that sort of thing, maybe whoever designed that
>would be willing to do another run of it.  {i'm not sure *who* did it
>though, i can't for the life of me recall their name.}

wow!!! im sorry i wasnt on this sooner to get one of those shirts!!! if the
person who did them still has one tucked away in a corner, or is planning on
*possibly* running some more, maybe some newcommers like me would want one,
please, put my name on a list, or send me info. i very much like that
idea.... i would love one of those shirts....
thanx.
tiff

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from:         mindigo <holleys@uamont.edu>
subject:      list t-shirt

it was jim miner who did the list t-shirt a little while ago... i wish
he would offer to have more printed... ;)  (hint hint) i just missed out
on them last time. maybe we should get a petition up and beg shamelessly.
just an idea. :)

missing out on the girls for finals and graduation,
mindigo

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at 07:20 pm 5/2/96 -0500, you wrote:
>ok, they are singing tonight.
>i am in erie pa.
>hell.
>just hell.
>
>
>8-(
>
>karrie

i hear ya sister!
stuck in so. california, about 88 degrees at 5:20 p.m. i've been baking in
my apartment all day while receiving gleeful, "i'm heading to new orleans"
messages from those "fortunate ones, fortunate ones, i swear..."  hmph. :'-(
i guess all i'm left with is "must see tv" on nbc. <thoughts of a and e
dancing in my head>
karen

p.s. do i sound pathetic or what?!? i do have a life...


>
________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
product of suburban psychosis. ;-/
________________
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from:         randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
subject:      re: 2 questions

andrew d. lane <alane@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> writes:
>
>1.  what do the letters "soc" stand for?

     soc = stream of conscious

>2.  on the net, the ig's are touted as a "grammy-award winning duo."  what
>did they win for?  did they win more than once?  when?


the following was snipped from a 10/94 version of an ig faq:

     they were awarded a grammy in 1989 for best contemporary folk recording,
     for indigo girls, and much to the dismay of everyone in atlanta and
     elsewhere, lost the grammy for best new artist in 1989 to milli vanilli.

     in 1990, nomads*indians*saints was released, nominated for a grammy
     award, and went gold.

     in 1991 the live ep back on the bus, y'all was released, nominated
     for a grammy award, and also went gold.

so as of '94, they won once out of 3 nominations.
i'm not sure since then.

- randy

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comments:     authenticated sender is <thie0080@thie0080.email.umn.edu>
from:         go go gadget metro!!! <indigo.girl@peter.saab>
organization: none whatsoever.
subject:      i hate t-shirts!!!

***any artists, or current workers on the shirts, please read the **
             starred  part below.


ok...i'll cough up some opinions here...

  -t-shirts:  i, the omnipotent one, know what seems to have
happened. if anyone thinks this is hostile, don't take it
personal-like. it's just observation. this is supposed to be the 1996
ig list shirt. (1 a year i gather). we have all been tossing out
ideas, and several people vowed to keep track of them(tiffany and
kidfears@??? i remember), and that's all nice and stuff, but what
they discovered is: (drum roll?) everyone has vastly different ideas.
and they're all more than willing to post them to the list in
abundance. at this rate, i will have graduated by the time anything
gets done('99). now someone stepped forward and is actually designing
it. thank you. i'll buy whatever frigging design you come up with,
but i think it's better to have a long-worded shirt than none. (this
is long...ok...)
basically, i personally thank everyone who helped with ideas, but
it's getting a little old. i think we just need to go with what we
have offered.  i will be willing to tally the votes of people who
disagree with me, as long as they write to me, instead of to the
entire list, 'cause that's all we've been talking about lately.


**ok...anyone who can design stuff, feel free to also try. if we get
several suggestions by..oh...say... next friday, we can vote on a
design, not a concept.
  *i* cannot design very well, but i recommend
using the current idea, with the added quotes a different colour, or
highlighted, or bold or something to break the solid flow of words.
that is the best we can do.

maybe we can put the number of votes next to each quote on the
shirt!!! ;-)


  -n.o.: lucky bastards...that's all i gotta say...right now, they're
rockin' the entire city, and i'm going to bed way up here in
minneapolis...not bitter at all...
eric.

now playing:  indigo girls - 1200 curfews

"we fight for freedom, which no good man would surrender, but with his life."

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date:         thu, 2 may 1996 22:36:56 -0400
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from:         michael bonfiglio <ibzbone@aol.com>
subject:      heeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!

i need to know all i can about the concert that's in september or august....i
need to know where, how to get tickets, when, etc.  please help
me........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike

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from:         cyndi johnson <cyndigo@aol.com>
subject:      ig shirts

ditto for me!  i'd like one of those "last year" t-shirts, too, if there are
any extras lying around -- and please make some of the new ones available in
xxl, so there's enough of a "shrink factor" to accommodate my middle-age
spread...  thanks, y'all!

cyndi

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subject:      song of the day

hey all ...

swamp ophelia is full of wonderful songs that are worthy of discussion; i
would like to propose that we defer the song of the day thread until the
other stuff about the t-shirt and no jazzfest reviews is done. maybe we can
start up again on wednesday next week?

what does everyone think?

anna

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subject:      please forgive this question...

...if it's too stupid.

but i kinda wanted to see 'em as a duo.  so are they having the band for the
may 4 concert?  i guess they'd *almost* have to for such a big venue.

i mean, they're not a 4-piece band, it's not a totally dumb question, is it?
have you guys seen a & e all by themselves for a while?  racking my brain,
really...can songs like fugitive & ghost (i'm not a musician) go over w/ just
2 guitars?

just a curious lister,
lorie
...who's probably gonna wear her black band de soleil shirt (w/the sun) to
the may 4 show ; >

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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: song of the day

at 04:20 am 5/3/96 gmt, anna wrote:
>hey all ...
>
>swamp ophelia is full of wonderful songs that are worthy of discussion; i
>would like to propose that we defer the song of the day thread until the
>other stuff about the t-shirt and no jazzfest reviews is done. maybe we can
>start up again on wednesday next week?
>
>what does everyone think?
>
well... as part of the "everyone" out here who isn't ( grumble ) at the no
jazzfest, i think that's a great idea. so is the very first ig cd i
purchased, and i'm in love with every song on it. i would love to see those
songs that first spoke so eloquently to my soul get a full + proper ig
listee interpretation/examination/review. i am constantly amazed by the
difference and sameness that each of us brings to + takes away from the ig
songs... there are some incredibly interesting people on this list, and a
lot of them are in no or on their way there, so...
maybe my vote is a touch on the selfish side... but... nah.
peace y'all... kim, who is standing with her back to the moon and
contemplating some very dark places...
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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date:         fri, 3 may 1996 01:49:33 -0400
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: please forgive this question...
x-to:         indigo412@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <960503002730_286028831@emout13.mail.aol.com> from
              "indigo412@aol.com" at may 3, 96 00:27:31 am

hmmm... are they with the band? sara is still on tour with ani right (by the
way run, do not walk to your nearest place that sells the advocate, the one
with sting on the cover, and buy it for the beautiful pic of ani inside...i
think i'm gonna frame it) ghost and fugitive sound great as a duo, i feel
they both are duo songs, but i am not saying i'm cringing when they have a
band...

     you know, it's really wierd, but i got my first ig boots six years ago,
and have been on this list for 3 years and find it cool that there are
distinct phases like when joan baez played for a number of shows in march
'91, siouxie sioux played in 12/92, the 10 dollar tour (i think my life's
goal will be to get all the 10 dollar tour shows, much like every dead head
wants every show between 72 and 74 because it was the dead's best years
live.. in some critics opinion anyway,) i kinda find it hard to really to
get excited about every show from rem's monster tour, even though i saw it
four times, pretty much same songs until the late leg of the tour (i want
the last 3 shows of that tour too) but for now i am tired, i hoped someone
posted the setlist, but no one yet, i have been listening to mona lisa's
exclusively today, been in my head, wonder if they encored with it...


btw, does anyone remember when the arts and entertainment channel showed
part of either 92 or 91's fest on tv??? wouldn't that be something...
peace
mike r.

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date:         fri, 3 may 1996 01:56:56 -0400
reply-to:     bil tonar <ak486@dayton.wright.edu>
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subject:      shirt

i hope that no one will not tell there opinion in fear of being flamed, i
don't think that is what any of us are about. i agree that it is hard to
agree on any one quote, but there are more shirts in the future to come.
i think it wise to go with the original idea and just go with the top one
or two top votes. and of course, there will be plenty of quotes to choose
from in the future. it would be a shame to waste them all in one shirt,
although it would be no waste to quote ig. ok, i've said my peace.

bil

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reply-to:     rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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subject:      indicated iii - get your requests in!!

indicated iii is ready so get your requests in now!!

for you newcomers, "indicated" is a series of tapes containing ig songs as
performed and recorded by ig fans from around the world.  some of the songs
are a bit amateurish while others are close to professional quality.


overseas and canadian list members:  send your requests to me.  i will
handle all overseas/canadian requests.

here's the deal:

to get your copy, you have to remember the month of your birth.  pick the
tape tree volunteer that corresponds to your month.

rob sticka:  january, february               rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov
sarah wiegman:  march, april                 sanawike1@aol.com
pamela shaw:  may, june                      sparkle@primenet.com
lisa nordeen:  july, august                  nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
stacy sheperson:  september, october         ssheperson@uoknor.edu
donna schwartz:  november, december          zkaa76a@prodigy.com

contact your respective tape tree volunteer to get details about their
postal addresses, self addressed stamped envelope requirements, sending a
blank tape, sending money, etc.  no one will be making any money on this tape!

i don't want to bias your opinion of this tape but i think you're gonna like it!

i have made 6 master copies of indicated iii - direct copies of the tape
submittals i received.  each tape tree volunteer will receive a master copy
from which they will produce copies.  each tape was produced using no noise
reduction techniques (no dolby, dbx, etc.).


indicated iii contains:

side a

hammer and a nail - rob sticka/andrea bertino
mystery - scott ninnemann
galileo - two homesluts and a houseboy
strange fire - greg flamer/jamie weinberg/sherman serna
welcome me - lorinda wright/patty arrington
thin line - rob augino/courtney wright
finlandia - cats on fire
power of two - rob sticka/andrea bertino
hand me downs - katie mccurry/george patrick
blood and fire - pamela shaw
ghost - neil hunt/kirsti reeve/jaq delaney

side b

walk away - rob sticka/scot ninnemann
hey jesus - two homesluts and a houseboy
love will come to you - phil norman
three hits - lorinda wright/dan grossman
hand me downs - scot ninnemann
world falls - rob sticka
uncle john's band - cats on fire
land of canaan - rob augino/courtney wright
everybody's waiting for someone to come home - julie goldman/ashley filip
mystery - neil hunt
center stage - rob augino/courtney wright


if you're familiar with other lists that may be interested in this tape,
please forward this message to that list.  we want to spread the good ig word.


rob sticka

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subject:      nigc:  cd recommendation - viva la diva

viva la diva's greatest hits volume i:  outstanding!

i ordered this after reading some of the list raving about it.  thank you.

this cd is pop/rock - reminds me of the breeders or blondie.  simple but
catchy guitars...good beat...you can dance to it...i give it a 93, dick (for
those of you old enough to remember american bandstand - are the vh1 reruns
including the record rating segments?)

rob sticka

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subject:      real life story gives me an idea!

real life story:

i was on the plane the other day (technically, i was in the plane...let evel
knievel get on the plane!) on a long flight listening to cds (always bring
something to listen to in case you get that screaming baby sitting right
behind you!).  there was a woman (30-ish) sitting next to me but we didn't
talk at all.  as we were getting close to landing she said, "i couldn't help
wondering what you were listening to in your cd player."  i showed her the
cd (viva la diva's greatest hits - volume i) and quickly explained the
indigo girls' connection.  she said she loved the ig (she had seen them at
the wolf trap in virginia a few years ago).  she wanted to get this cd (viva
la diva) so she wrote down the address on the back of the cd.  this struck
me as odd:  buying a cd based on a stranger's two sentence recommendation
and a weak indigo girls connection.  i happened to have an extra copy of
indicated iii with me and (i couldn't resist) gave her a copy.  i explained
a little about the mailing list and so on.  she'll hopefully go out and buy
a few other ig cds too (i don't think she was a die-hard ig fan - she didn't
seem to recognize my rop cd).

now the idea:

since it's in all of our best interests to keep ig cd sales up (without
sales, record contracts will eventually dry up), i thought that it would be
interesting to have list members try to create new ig fans.  now i know most
of us do this to some extent by recommending ig to our friends/family when
the subject comes up.  what i'm talking about is a concerted effort by list
members for maybe a week to convert someone into an ig fan and then sharing
your story on the list.  make some extra effort to advertise the wonders of
ig music!  when you convert a fan, maybe he/she will then pass along the
good word to their friends.  this method of communication can become
exponential (can become big very fast for you non-math folks).


rob

(one of my co-workers just got selected to be an astronaut!  happy happy joy
joy)

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reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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subject:      i need some info

hi all.  i was wondering if anyone out there knew anything about the layout
of the arena where ig is playing on saturday.  i have two tickets that i am
selling to people who are looking to upgrade their tickets and i want to make
sure that the tickets are as good as i think they are.

they are orch l - row 10 - seats 1-3

i imagine that means orchestra left, 10th row, on the aisle.  at least that's
where i hope they are.  if anyone can confirm this for me, i would greatly
appreciate it.  thanks.

let it grow

bert


two songs that i will be singing tonight:

1)      i am leaving on a midnight plane to new orleans

2)      i'm up on an airplane, nearer to *** than thee
        i'll start making a deeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaalllllll!!!

at that point, the airplane window will shatter from the horror that is my
singing voice and the plane will plummett to the earth.  whoops.  sorry.
next time i will sing an amy song.

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from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix7.ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: 2 questions

at 09:11 pm 5/2/96 -0400, randy rohrer wrote:
>andrew d. lane <alane@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> writes:
>>2.  on the net, the ig's are touted as a "grammy-award winning duo."  what
>>did they win for?  did they win more than once?  when?
>
>the following was snipped from a 10/94 version of an ig faq:
>
>     they were awarded a grammy in 1989 for best contemporary folk recording,
>     for indigo girls, and much to the dismay of everyone in atlanta and
>     elsewhere, lost the grammy for best new artist in 1989 to milli vanilli.
>
>     in 1990, nomads*indians*saints was released, nominated for a grammy
>     award, and went gold.
>
>     in 1991 the live ep back on the bus, y'all was released, nominated
>     for a grammy award, and also went gold.

if i remember right (from my rop tourbook), n*i*s technically was not
nominated.  i believe that hammer and a nail was nominated as 'best
contmeporary folk recording'.  other than that you are right.  what you are
missing is that _swamp ophelia_ was nominated at the 1994 awards (held in
1995), also for 'best contemporary folk recording'.  unfortunately, it did
not win.  so they have had at least 4 nominations and 1 award.

feel free to add if you know more.  :-)

and as far as list t-shirts go, i am definitely of the opinion that design
of the t-shirt is best handled by the few.  and deb is about the best person
i know of to do it.  last year, the design was pretty much chosen by one
person (based on list discussion i believe), and some people were pretty
happy with it.  for the record, i didn't like the design (absolutely just
mho) and consequently did not purchase it.  i suggest people do the same
this year, although i find it hard to believe that an ig fan would dislike
deb's idea.  it does seem to cover a lot of ig ground, deosn't it?  and
that's not an easy thing to do for such a complex duo.  it's about as far
from meaningless and pointless as you can get, actually.

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"if my life were a movie/i would light a cigarette/
and the smoke would curl/around my face/
everything i would do would be interesting"  -ani difranco

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from:         "dwayne d. jarrell" <djarrell@ix15.ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: please forgive this question...

>i mean, they're not a 4-piece band, it's not a totally dumb question, is it?
>have you guys seen a & e all by themselves for a while?  racking my brain,
>really...can songs like fugitive & ghost (i'm not a musician) go over w/ just
>2 guitars?

why don't you judge for yourself?  listen to the version of ghost on 1200.
and read the liner notes.  :-)

:dwayne

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and the smoke would curl/around my face/
everything i would do would be interesting"  -ani difranco

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subject:      re: **'96 ig list shirts!*** read ! update #1
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in a message dated 96-05-03 02:57:52 edt, you write:

> i dont really wanna
>shirt with all of that writing on it, cause i think its kinda pointless, but
>its just my opinion. so... fine. w.
>
>

i have to say it.....pointless????  are we listening to the same music?  i
can see where everyone is coming up with the simplicity factor, but to label
the "poem" pointless is silly.  please, read it again......
take care
rob

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reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      true life "come and join us" stories.

kim decides that lurking is just no fun...
hey... please forgive me...( is it rob sticka? ) the moment after i read
your message + thought "hey, what a cool idea" i accidently trashed it
instead of transferring it to my ig mail box... arrghh! so i'm not sure who
spawned the idea, but i'm pretty certain it was rob... ( need more coffee! )
anyway...the suggestion was that we make a huge effort to convert someone to
ig-ism. < kim now packs her briefcase full of ig cds and a handy dandy
portable cd player and prepares to mount a frenzied door to door campaign.
"come and join us, come and join us"... hmmm, perhaps this is not the way to
win folks over....>
ah... me, i've been working on one of my bestest friends, who i've known for
19 years now ) for the past few months. she plays guitar + sings ( has an
incredible voice ). well... any time she's over visiting or we're out
bombing around in my chicken man van, ( she bought me the rubber chicken
that now hangs from my rear view mirror ) i've been playing the girl's
stuff, hoping to win her over. i knew she liked the music when she started
to sing along after a few of these "hypnotic" rides :- ) ( music playing...
she gazing intently at the swaying rubber chicken... "you are getting
sleepy...")
anyhooo... last friday night, she and i and a couple of our other
girlfriends had a get together... talked, drank, laughed... got tatoos (
don't ask )... tara ( uh huh... that's my friend's name ) played guitar + we
all sang. she did a couple of mary chapin carpenter's songs, then she looked
at me and said "i've been practicing this one for a while... come help me
with it" and started into playing left me a fool. we sang it together... it
was a really cool moment ( sounded great too... achem... ). turns out she'd
loved the girls stuff so much that she'd gone out and purchased 1200
curfews, so ni+s and rop.... i was blown away. so... anyway... chalk one up
for me!!!!!
my sights are set on a new conquest now.... heather of the "i only listen to
me" faith.
wish me luck! :- )
sorry abt the length of this...
peace + prostelizing (sp? ) :- ) kim
<kim fischer>
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reply-to:     jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
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from:         jessie gilliam <jmg8r@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
subject:      converting people to ig

has anyone ever tried to convert their mother to ig-ism?  every time i'm home
and am riding in the car with her the indigo girls are on....  so far she
only sings along to "least complicated" though.  what am i doing wrong?  i'm
going home for the summer soon, so i would like suggestions...:)


     jessie

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from:         renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
subject:      re: converting moms to ig
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yeah, my mom just couldn't help but start liking ig.  i mean, when i was
home in high school, that's all i'd play.  i dont' know about the rest
of you, but my mom's favorite is still hammer and nail.

i think for moms, emily's music is a better starter, since she appeals
very much to the feminine side of people.  (not that amy doesn't, but,
it's just a little different sometimes!)  my suggestions would be hammer
and nail, closer to fine, power of two, and hey, strange fire, and world
falls!!!  there, get at least two amy things in there!!!

renee

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subject:      re: 2 questions

dwayne wrote:
>if i remember right (from my rop tourbook), n*i*s technically was not
>nominated.  i believe that hammer and a nail was nominated as 'best
>contmeporary folk recording'.  other than that you are right.  what you are
>missing is that _swamp ophelia_ was nominated at the 1994 awards (held in
>1995), also for 'best contemporary folk recording'.  unfortunately, it did
>not win.  so they have had at least 4 nominations and 1 award.
>
>feel free to add if you know more.  :-)

i will! :) if i recall correctly, the grammy that swamp was up for went to
johnny cash (don't recall the album name).

deb

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from:         corinne simpson <corinne.simpson@m.cc.utah.edu>
subject:      converting your mom

speaking as one who has converted her mom to igism, i say play a lot of
power of two and least complicated... cute emily songs like that.  my mom
went out and bought her very own copy of "indigo girls," not to mention
melissa's "yes i am" due to my constant playing of them.
also play watershed all the time.  my mom can even discuss amy and
emily's hairstyles over the years now.  "i like emily best during
nomads."  how cute is that?


corinne

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subject:      moms & ig

>yeah, my mom just couldn't help but start liking ig.  i mean, when i was
>home in high school, that's all i'd play.  i dont' know about the rest     rest
>of you, but my mom's favorite is still hammer and nail.
mine too, mine too!  i mean, my mom was converted in the same manner, and her
favorite song is still hammer and a nail.  just thought that was a cool
coincidence...  but what do i know...
                  --rachel
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from:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      answer to johnny cash ques., was re: 2 questions
x-to:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
in-reply-to:  <v01540b0eadafdd93aac8@[151.186.5.88]>

the johnny cash album is american recordings and i highly recommend it.
i have my own jc stories but they don't have any igc.....check out cash
websites (sorry i didn't write down any addresses...) for more info.  he
is one of the all time greats

on fri, 3 may 1996, deb reiser wrote:

> dwayne wrote:
> >if i remember right (from my rop tourbook), n*i*s technically was not
> >nominated.  i believe that hammer and a nail was nominated as 'best
> >contmeporary folk recording'.  other than that you are right.  what you are
> >missing is that _swamp ophelia_ was nominated at the 1994 awards (held in
> >1995), also for 'best contemporary folk recording'.  unfortunately, it did
> >not win.  so they have had at least 4 nominations and 1 award.
> >
> >feel free to add if you know more.  :-)
>
> i will! :) if i recall correctly, the grammy that swamp was up for went to
> johnny cash (don't recall the album name).
>
> deb
>
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from:         gianina giammarinaro <gg1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      recruiting...

the idea of showing the indigo girls to people is really neat, but for
some reason i get images like "brave new world" and "animal farm"
in my head when we talk about "converting" people to our side.  (the ig
side, the correct side, of course!)  that was not in any way meant as a
flame of the idea, the pictures in my head are just a result of my
extremely warped view/humor.  ( kim-i can just picture you with a huge
battered suitcase and a cd player- walking from door to door.  like
igor, of course!  you stop at every house you see, every shop, and preach
the word.  and between houses, mutter under your breath, "must recruit,
must recruit!")  :-)  :-)

but as for converting mom, i think another good "indigo lite"  song
would be galileo.  whenever i mention the igs to people i know who are
not fans, they almost invariably say "oh, the galileo people?  yeah, that
was a cool song."  my friend lori bought rop just for that song, and had
never heard of the girls other than galileo.  i can be a foot in the
door, heheheh.  :-)

sorry if i'm getting a little too wierd today, i had to be up at 5 am for
a field trip so that i could get wet and scrape myself up on rocks.  and
i am not a morning person.  (understatement o' the day)

gia

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subject:      nigc- sort of...:-)

hey there......
kim fischer posted

"my sights are set on a new conquest now.....heather of the "i only listen to
me faith."

kim, go easy on her.....we melissa maniacs are very hard to deal with.
fortunately for me, i was turned on to ig on the very same day as mle some 8
years ago, so i hadn't the option of being difficult to convert.  all you have
to do is play "romeo and juliet" and say "listen to the passion in amy's
voice and words... the honesty, the truth....isn't it like melissa?"

trust me, if you use the words "honesty", "passion" (especially passion!), and
"truth" to any mle fan, they are more apt to be converted. ;-)

and, is it me?  (hey, i just got an idea!!!!) or do most mle fans identify
with amy more than emily?  because in my experiences, it is 99% of the time
that way.  i know that i do, and i think it is because amy writes and sings
with such raw intensity, whereas emily sings more in lyric and prose, that
mle fans identify with amy's stuff more......

comments?

the amy and melissa fan from hell-

karrie, who is staring at rain in erie pa (yup bon, you're right!) and wishing
i was in sunny louisiana right now.......8-(


              "water retention is not new to me...."
                    -emily saliers

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subject:      ig convert!

well ya'll, it's official.......we have a new ig fan!!!!!

yup, that's right!  my best bud and soon-to-be-roommate- is a full-fledged fan
now.  we actually were going through all of my ig music at 6:30 this morning
after a bout with insomnia that lasted all night. we just sat up and talked
about life and ig and how the music is so perfect.  however, being an amy personit is dismaying to me that she is definately, without a doubt, an emily person.
oh well, it could be worse.  she could be a mariah carey person. ;-)

anyhoo, i believe we have our first convert since rob's suggestion was posted.
i always love it when i have an ig commarade in arms.  the last time someone
jammed with me to ig with the fevor i put into it was over a year ago.  my
boss' girlfriend pam and i had an all night jam session where she just palyed
her guitar and we sang every ig, melissa etheridge, kristen hall, disappear fearand michelle schocked tune we could possibly belt out.  my only problem now?
pam is 270 miles away, and neither me nor my friend anya can play a guitar.
but we can harmonize our asses off.  (hence, i think, the me-amy, you-emily
identification thingy.)  if i could play guitar, who knows, we could be on
indicated iv.  ;-)

later-

karrie

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i've converted my mom, so much so that she knows if it is emily or amy that
is singing.  one day my mom was driving in the car, listening to the radio
and she heard what she thought was the coolest song.  the dj said that it
was the ig with joan baez.  well she drove straight to the record store and
purchased the new joan baez album for me for christmas.  she sings along
with me on some of the songs, can identify a majority of them and i even
took her and my dad to a concert once.

to convert moms,  i suggest playing the songs over and over and over.  i
also suggest relating them to their generation of music, like by explaining
that they are similar to peter, paul and mary or the mamas and the papas.
finally, i suggest telling her about lyrics that she might relate to in one
way or another.

warning - do not over do this!!!!  i did at one point and my mom really got
sick of the ig for a while.  now, i am not saying that my mom would actually
go out and purchase an album, but she will definitely listen to them with me.

one exam done and three to go ......

alycia


>has anyone ever tried to convert their mother to ig-ism?  every time i'm home
>and am riding in the car with her the indigo girls are on....  so far she
>only sings along to "least complicated" though.  what am i doing wrong?  i'm
>going home for the summer soon, so i would like suggestions...:)
>
>
>     jessie

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. . . people peg me as angry, militant and scary.  and when they
finally see me, standing 5 foot 2, they're like, 'what?  we
thought we'd be scared of you.'  i think that there are a lot of
women who are very sweet and quiet on the outside, but are
really walking around with this bomb inside.
                                               - ani difranco

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on fri, 3 may 1996 k645501b@edinboro.edu wrote:

> and, is it me?  (hey, i just got an idea!!!!) or do most mle fans identify
> with amy more than emily?  because in my experiences, it is 99% of the time

actually i am a big-big-big melissa fan and i really identify with
melissa but i was an emily person forever. after i saw the girls in jcs i
suddenly understood the ways of amy people. of course, i still identified
a lot with amy even when i was an emily person. now i'm a neither person.
just an overall chickengirlie. yeah.

anyway---> i converted my mom. she likes emily's voice better and her
favorite songs are "southland in the springtime" and "watershed." when i
made her watch _watershed_ she was all sad that "watershed" wasn't on there.
she doesn't like tmf though. she said, "i just don't understand what
she's trying to do here." i said, "mom! amy said *she* doesn't
even know what it's about." mom likes the beautiful harmonies. when amy
screams, she will say, "goodness--why must she get so upset?!"  i can't
really explain it. it's funny. it's not like she doesn't see amy's
passion. it's just that she is all ready to be like, floating through an
emily melody with a cup of tea on a hammock and then amy is suddenly
screaming. it's  kind of a jolt to that mother of mine.

anyway, we now listen to ig on each and every road trip--and
she likes to make fun of the interviews i watch that endlessly
ask the same questions. i'll bring up ig and she'll be like, "oh, how'd
they meet? where'd they get their name?" very sarcastic, that mom of
mine.

it's not like she listens to them every day while i'm away at school or
anything...but she can definitely appreciate them lots and lots. she
loved their dtt,ia with joan baez.

and, she knows all about this list--she thinks we're crazy. very
perceptive, that mom of mine.


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linda

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here are my conversion stories:
my roommate this year had never listened to ig before this year, and now,
she has all of their major label releases.
my parents have only been converted to the point where they recognize the
songs (neither sings along yet)-my mom called me the day after she and my
dad had been in a restaurant and heard ghost playing.  also, i am a
minnesotan, but i will not be around next year when ig will be in mpls,
and so, my parents are going as my proxy.  i told them they have to, and
they have no objections, so, well, there you have it.
amanda

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i seem to be running into the same problem here as in real life: doesn't
anyone swing both ways???  i mean all this talk of amy people and emily
people is starting to make me feel boxed in... can we have a little
tolerance here??? :-)
peace y'all,
karey
who is on cloud infinity because she just saw the object of her crush, who
acted nice and smile alot, which gives her (karey) some hope, not to
mention numerous stomach butterflies!!

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subject:      honor the earth

could someone please send me the web address for honor the earth?  i misplaced
it --

thank you.

alycia

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. . . people peg me as angry, militant and scary.  and when they
finally see me, standing 5 foot 2, they're like, 'what?  we
thought we'd be scared of you.'  i think that there are a lot of
women who are very sweet and quiet on the outside, but are
really walking around with this bomb inside.
                                               - ani difranco

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okay, so someone i know has talked to the people at northrup auditorium
about the september concerts in minneapolis, and they said they knew
nothing about them.  are they at northrup, or somewhere else?  i could
have sworn someone said they would be at northrup...
amanda

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subject:      converting an me maniac...

kim pauses just before heading out the door for heather's place...
"okay, i think i've got it... honesty and passion... honesty and passion....
achem... "
thanks karrie... i think i can do this... :- ) ( i, btw am an me fan from
way back + was converted to ig music without a struggle... came willingly
all on my own because, dammit, they're good! )
oh, one more aside :- ) me...i started out an a fan... but e has really
grown on me, so i just consider myself an ig fan, period.
peace y'all... kim, who could never decide between peanut butter and jelly
or peanut butter and honey either....
<kim fischer>
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i always thought that every list member should make a starter ig tape and
distribute them to non ig listeners. maybe even give it a cool name.
then every list member should give out three of these tapes a month to
those in ig poverty.
here's an example

       indigo girls - power of two
side a
1. closer to fine
2. strange fire
3. reunion
4. galileo
5. pushing the needle to far
6. dead mans hill
7. ghost
8. hammer and nail

side b
1. least complicated
2. down by the river (to introduce their cover songs)
3. chickenman
4. if you live like that (early indigo)
5. touch me fall
6. kid fears
7. virgina woolf
8. closer to fine (live version)

i think this pretty much covers every aspect of their music. we could
become like krishnas. we could beg for money at airports and for every
dollar someone gives us instead of giving out carnations we could give
out a tape. well, maybe not.
ben

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well, i think i've done a good job of that already.  since christmas i've
mananged to convert a good half dozen people into..hmm, what shall i call
them?...passive fans, that's what i'll call them.  you know, they'll
listen to them, buy a cd or two, nothing more.  but i've also managed to
create a couple of brand-spanking new die-hard fans, the sort that not
only own a fair few of  the cds , but play ig songs on their guitars, and
show considerable interest when i start waffling about this ig song, or
that ig concert (although i have to say, i think a&e are a little more
responsible for the conversions than me...).
anyway, i'd say something interesting now, but i've *just* come out of a
nasty, evil exam, i'm not in new orleans, and i'm going home to blighty
in a week, so i refuse....


rebecca.
(who had a wicked, yet suitably cunning plan to fill up those lucky
n.o.ers' email boxes with complete rubbish, just to serve them right for
being sooo lucky.  then she thought, "that might be a tad vindictive,"
and forgot about it...well, almost)...

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i forgot about that...ye, my mum's (note: not 'mom') been converted.  i
agree with the emily stuff.  i was making up a tape of ig stuff for mum
for the first time a while ago, and wasn't sure whether to put r&j on (i
love it, but maybe a bit raw and loud and not particularly quiet and
sad...alright, so it is quite sad).  anyway, i put it on the tape, and a
while later when i spoke to mum on the phone we talked about the tape,
and with no prompting, she said r&j was one of her favourites.  which i
thought was quite spooky...

so it just proves a point: mum's (and even mom's) are significantly
cooler than we think.

rebecca.

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i have converted about 5 people so far. those converts have branched off
and have started their own missions. as far as my mom, she won't tell me
to my face that she likes ig. but one christmas i overgeard her talking
to my brother. she said "i really do love the indigo girls but not 24
hours a day!". so is there hope for her?
but i did manage to convert my mom to darism. she made tape of the
honesty room and keeps it in her car. i'm pretty much finished my ig
mission because well...they're famous. i preached ig for six years and
now it's time for a new artist. so i think dar williams is the best
canidate.
ben

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> think for moms, emily's music is a better starter, since she appeals
>very much to the feminine side of people.  (not that amy doesn't, but,
>it's just a little different sometimes!)

in thoery, this works. my mom loves galileo, ghost and power of two; but
man, you should see her go wild over chickenman. a woman possessed.

--john

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subject:      does anybody have last night setlist????

just waiting for it to be posted
mike r.

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subject:      ig conversion

ok, my dad can;t seem to get into them, he's an old diehard of a deadhead and
he said that he thinks they are great musicians (he should know-he's quite a
great musician himself) but that he thinks their lyrics speak to me in my
heart they way jerry garcia's do in his and that that is too sacrted for each
of us to change....(i think its cute) my mom loves them. my best friend got
really sick of them when we lived together but bought three albums since i
moved away and loves them to death now. i have also converted both my
sisters, although in my youngest sister's words, "issy, you're obsessed and
i'm more like, enraptured".

pass it on,

larissa

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on fri, 3 may 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> 4. if you live like that (early indigo)

why not put back together again on as an example of "early indigo"?   at
least a&e like that one enough to release it on an album, and besides its
easier to get hold of.   i haven't heard if you live like that but i've seen
the lyrics and they make back together look like a masterpiece.   besides,
back together again (aka leaving ain't fair) appeared on a bootleg in 1981
... you can't get much earlier indigo than that.

mat

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subject:      ghost, fugitive, vw

hi, everybody!
just a couple of things.
first, i hope everyone is having/had a good time in no, without me
:(

vw:  why the string tune at the beginning?  seems strange, though
it's grown on me, and now i really love this song
what does she mean by "men of anger?"   "women of the page" certainly
makes sense, but i'm not sure what she means about the men.

i know ghost day is past, but i didn't post on that day, so i just
wanted to say something about it.  i can hardly listen to it now
since it reminds me of my ex-girlfriend(yeah, like everyone else,
too!).  it applies completely to the situation i was in.  and the
lines "my bitter pill to swallow is the silence that i keep,"  though
it may refer to something else, strikes a chord with me because ours
was a secret relationship.  she wasn't out, and i promised her to
keep the whole thing a secret.   and it *was* a bitter pill to
swallow, still is.  most people probably don't think of fugitive this
way, but i do.  i relate that to my experience, as well.  i hid
myself for her.   won't ever do it again.


jen

       ???????????????????????????????????????????????
       ?                                             ?
       ? "how long 'til my soul gets it right?"  ig  ?
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subject:      is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides

this seems like as good a time as any to bring up
(what may be) a sensitive topic.

we've been chatting about "amy types" and "emily
types".  quite frankly, i sort of think everyone is
predominantly one or the other.  me, i'm an emily.
i was born that way.  but otoh i'm not afraid to
say, "i'm in touch with my amy side".  i think
that's healthy.

but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
emily-types should stick with emily-types.  i'm not
trying to tell people how to live their lives, but
frankly i don't understand heteroindigo relationships.
i'm just aghast when i see amys going out with emilies.
of course, i don't say anything to their faces, but i
just want to tell them, "quit now.  it'll never work."

i'll admit that i've been on both sides of the fence.
i've experimented.  and i truly believe that everyone
needs to find his or her own way.  but for me personally
--an emily--going out with an amy has always been a total
disaster.  in the end we fought over who dumped whom.
otoh, my same-indigo relationships always felt "right".

anyway, i just thought that maybe if i shared my story,
it might open up a meaningful dialogue.

i-girl

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date:         fri, 3 may 1996 15:33:14 -0700
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hey karey!  i'm "biindigo" too!! :)  and i've been out of this closet for
years!! :)
--gwen

on fri, 3 may 1996, karey weisman eals wrote:

> i seem to be running into the same problem here as in real life: doesn't
> anyone swing both ways???  i mean all this talk of amy people and emily
> people is starting to make me feel boxed in... can we have a little
> tolerance here??? :-)
> peace y'all,
> karey
> who is on cloud infinity because she just saw the object of her crush, who
> acted nice and smile alot, which gives her (karey) some hope, not to
> mention numerous stomach butterflies!!
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subject:      swinging both ways

hey ya'll.....

i'm not saying that youcan't love a & e the same.....i am just wondering,
actually, if a lot of people are partial to one or the other's lyrics
and voices.

later-
karrie

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> but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
> think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
> emily-types should stick with emily-types.  i'm not
> trying to tell people how to live their lives, but
> frankly i don't understand heteroindigo relationships.
> i'm just aghast when i see amys going out with emilies.
> of course, i don't say anything to their faces, but i
> just want to tell them, "quit now.  it'll never work."

hahaha this is so hilarious... but i see problems for homoindigo
relationships as well... two emilys may just end up pining for each other,
writing gobs of poetry and songs and analyzing their feelings to death,
while never actually doing anything about it, eventually getting
frightened away to languish in their bedroom and write more gobs of
poetry and songs... two amys may burn like a million passionate
suns... until they step on each others' toes and then explode like a
million passionate suns...  i can see them now, yelling "no, land of
canaan is about you!  not me!  i just _couldn't_, i just couldn't
survive..." yeah. =)

dear friends, our only hope is for each of us to get in touch with both
our amy and our emily sides.  we need amy's strength and emily's kindness,
amy's heart-on-the-sleeve honesty and emily's emotional intelligence.
it's like yin and yang, cheese and crackers, starsky and hutch, if you
don't have both to draw from it's just not gonna work, you know, it's
lopsided and is never gonna roll...

may we all find the amy and the emily in each of us. (big big grin)

scot

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subject:      sameindigo relationships

of course, you could argue that it was only natural for amy types and emily
types to be together.  opposites are meant to be together, it is only
natural, you know.  i just don't understand what amy/amy's or emily/emily's
would do together?  i mean, how would they relate?  just too much
uncommunicative drama or too much sappiness... if those sameindigo girl
relationships do survive they are bound to be unhappy.

if you are in a sameindigo girl relationship:  i have a source of help for
you.  just contact me.  you can lead a happy life, people.  you can change.

you know i'm smiling...
     jessie

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at 05:18 pm 5/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>we've been chatting about "amy types" and "emily
>types".  quite frankly, i sort of think everyone is
>predominantly one or the other.  me, i'm an emily.
>i was born that way.  but otoh i'm not afraid to
>say, "i'm in touch with my amy side".  i think
>that's healthy.

greetings sister. like you i'm an emiphile who admits to being "in touch"
with her amy side. when i first became an ig obssessive, amy's bravado and
seemingly tireless sexual energy (at least, projected sexual energy...can't
say anything beyond that),  got the better of me. i was wooed by the husky
voice, tight ripped jeans, and just the "out there" presence. i remember in
particular their performance of po2 on the tonight show where amy had a
really awesome brown jacket on...purrr.  i think i wore that tape
out...anyway......

i am indeeed an emiphile, even if that last passage suggests i'm a little
more in touch w/ my amy side than i first admitted. but back on track...
with any sort of long term relationship you begin to seek out the subtle
qualities that make the mundanities of everyday life special. that's just
what emily does for me. the intensity and initial animalistic pull amy
posseses burns bright, but in my opinion, quickly. ("for a cool evening, i
began to yearrrrn." :-d) even as an amy-ette i always felt emily was a
superior songwriter. gradually, i became wooed by her intelligence, passion
and angelic voice.  0 :-)  to me an e-type is in for the long haul, at times
hopelessly romantic, a good ol' gal drinking in the pleasures of everyday
life... a longtime companion. (my girlfriend jill was an avowed emiphile
when i was still dabbling in amyism. guess i lucked out when i pulled the
switcheroo!)

an a-type, in my opinion, is far more overtly sexual where as i sense an
e-type to be on the sensual end of the spectrum. an aside: i'm not inferring
anything about amy directly, just some of the folks i know who are
a-inclined :)

anyway, a-types seem to be anguished lovers, some even players... more into
having moments of intense introspection than perhaps cuddling by the fire
like i envision other e-types to be.

>but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
>think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
>emily-types should stick with emily-types.

i tend to agree with you. i think an a and e type relationship could turn
out to be  some hazardous mixture of elements that leads to utter, chemical
malady. although if any a and e couples out there want to refute this
observation, go right ahead!

>frankly i don't understand heteroindigo relationships.

ditto...i think this skews the formula way off.
well, that's my two cents. i realize i spent more time trying to hash out
what a and e types really are than focusing on the "mixed-marriage" angle.
hope y'all have some other thoughts on this,
karen
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lit. aficionado and all around
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subject:      amy/emily

        hmmmm....but what if one isn't an amy or an emily???  i seriously
cannot choose.  "land of canaan" was the first ig song i ever heard, but
"ghost" is the fist one i played over and over...hmmm...maybe this is why my
indigo-social life is so mixed up...okay, overshare, whatever.  so maybe
amy/emily splits swing both ways...

random.

happy day,
jennie
(thinking that art imitates life...)

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              <199605032307.qaa29176@rho.ben2.ucla.edu>

ok, i'm going to de-lurk here to ad my 0.02$ (am i supposed to intro
myself? - i'm not sure what the official protocol is :}).

about e-e and a-a relationships vs e-a relationships, listening to
emily's songs i always got the impression that she was singing about
someone who was actually a *lot* like amy - e.g "maybe if i'd fanned the
blazing fire of your day to day", "you could only feed on the things that
feed a fire", "you blaze on as brilliant as a star", "you like to stand
in the line of fire...", and the list goes on.  now, i don't know if
that really supports either argument, because a lot of those songs are
about loss (i.e. the mix _didn't_ work) but then maybe some people are
just genuinely drawn to that *other*.  as for amy's love songs, they
aren't really as straightforward (which is part of why i love them :))
and don't really describe the other person as clearly, so i won't venture
down that path...

as for which types are better - i just don't know - people are people
and sometimes you stumble upon something truly wondrous and other times
you just make a mess (good thing i'm not a poet, eh?).

--sarah (who can't seem to keep her days' teacups straight?!?)

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        as to the do mle fans like amy better, this has been the case for
me.  my friends and i all love mle ang ig and all but one of us likes amy
better.  the one who likes emily better is an incurably romantic sap.
not to say the emily's music is sappy.  i would definatley have to say
that it is the passion factor.  i love emily's music but there is just
that extra kick with amy and of course melissa.  oddly enough the first
song that made me really notice ig was least complicated.  of course, now
my favorite is chickenman.  then again maybe i just like amy best because
we have the same name and she has a deep voice like me:)
                                                amy

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subject:      homo vs. hetero indigo

this whole topic just made me freak out with laughter when i first read
i-girl's message......but then it really kind of made me think twice.
how funny....

but, i don't know...i think classifying emily as "kindness" and amy
as "heart on the sleeve"  is kind of generalizing to a bad point.  "amy types"
as they are being grouped together, i think possess the same qualities, it's
simply a matter of how they display them.  it doesn't mean that "amys"
don't also like to cuddle by a fire...simply that they might tend to shout
out that they do, in fact, like doing such things.  emily tends to placidly
reflect on certain revelations that she has made...which, obviously, we're
all aware of.

personally, i guess that on the surface, i appear as an "emily"...though i
truthfully hate generalizations period.  i mean, not that i'm a total
party-pooper or something --i realize that this whole thing was all jokingly
done-- just seriously, it seems so finalized, like either your amy or emily
based.  i don't know......as i was saying, i'm emily on the surface...my
first impression would be that i'm an emily.  i have solemn emily thoughts...
but, when i'm in the mood, baby, i shout it out as amy would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plus, my voice is significantly more on the amy-side...so it's funner to sing =)
anyway...that's my thought.

on inter-mingling between the two for relationship's sake, well......personally,i've found that for me, it's not a matter of who's really like who in terms
of certain things in common, etc.....just because you like amy music doesn't
mean you couldn't also be a total computer-nerd or something who sits home
figuring out all the different combinations of indigo girls on his computer
(hehee...just kidding...)....what i'm saying is that certain commonalities
aren't necessarilly indicative of personalities on the whole.  could a skinhead
be an amy?  well, then i wouldn't want to be grouped with him?  you follow?
anyway...i guess what's most important, that i've fuond, is that you find
that special combination innate in a person which reacts in a certain growth in
yourself...and that other person.  otherwise, if you're two identical people
with same hobbies, tastes, etc...it's hard to really evolve into much more.
on the other hand, if you're two very dissimilar people, it's hard to even
get on the same wavelength at times in order for you to evolve.  catch my
drift???

ok, enough.  i'm done with my spiel.  food for thought.  interesting topic
though, really.......gotta love all the different points of view people
have...the diversity of life manifested!  it's great....thanks i-girl...

lesley

"nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal.  as specks of dust, we're universal..."

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>>but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
>>think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
>>emily-types should stick with emily-types.
>
>

just imagine the terrible music an a-&-e couple might produce.  euch!

;)

's a joke.  a bit of friday evening, non-new orleans,
ignoring-the-vodka-in-the-freezer humor.

=danna=

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at 09:55 pm 5/3/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>>but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
>>>think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
>>>emily-types should stick with emily-types.
>>
>just imagine the terrible music an a-&-e couple might produce.  euch!

my thoughts exactly!!!!! :-) what a terrible mistake... do they know how
mis-matched they are? maybe someone should tell them?????? no... no, lets
just keep it from them... this way ( selfish aren't we? ) we all can bebefit
from their shared delusion of compatability....
kim, who thinks a wild night of tequila and the company of good friends
would be a fair trade off for the crappy week she's put in...
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subject:      .birth order

.
i'm wondering how amy and emily fit into all the birth order stuff
you hear about

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at 10:21 pm 5/3/96 +0000, harry lee wrote:

>i'm wondering how amy and emily fit into all the birth order stuff
>you hear about
oh cool... are you talking oldest sibling - middle sibling- youngest sibling
- only child etc??? me, being the youngest child ( but really an only,
because of the vast age difference between myself + my older brs + sisters )
i always + inevitably end up relating best to the oldest sibling in a
family... and always always to an a type... intense etc. i love this
topic... somebody who knows anything about a+e's place in the birth order
please post????
peace, kim.
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subject:      a/e relationships

just had to put my $.02 in here regarding "amy types" and "emily types."
though there are some valid points raised as to sticking with one's own
type, let us not forget that as different as amy and emily are, they still
have managed to maintain a relationship far longer than most couples.  true,
they aren't a "couple" in the sense we're discussing, but they do spend more
time together than most married couples, since they work, play, and practice
together.  so i say, if they can do it, there's hope for the rest of us!  (i
have to take this stand here -- i'm the "emily" and my better half  is the
"amy" in our relationship!)  please tell me we're not doomed....  and don't
flame me too badly for mho!

cyndi

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subject:      last call for superstar

well, i'm going home and i think i should get off the list now. but not
to worry, i'll be back in a week. but i'm writing to everyone who is
participating in our little jcs project. send all your finished tapes to
ben slavin
po box 394
chatsworth nj
08019
thanks.
ben
ps jan!!!!!! if your reading this call me! my number is 784-0942.

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oh my gawd, you guys are so funny!!!
this friday night has been so-so so far, seeing "the heidi chronicles"
done by the youth theater group i was with before.  it was pretty
s  l  o  w  .
and my friend and i didn't have our usual stellar conversations, and the
oil light went on in the car, so we had to stop in the middle of downtown
seattle and try to read the dipstick under the streetlight... blah.
but i've been laughing so hard in the last few minutes that people have
been staring, even tho' i've been trying hard to hold it in.  my cheeks
hurt now, i'm not kidding.  you guys are wunnerful.  *sniff sniff*
<sappy tears rolling down said aching cheeks, earnest look>
ach, now i'll go home and sleep so i can be bright tailed and bushy eyed
for the trees class fieldtrip tomorrow at....gasp.....8:30, which means
i'll have to wake up at.......ack!.......7:30!!!  all i can say is, it
better not rain for this hike.
lovage,
karey
whom nothing could faze because she's got a big horkin' crush! :-)

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subject:      re: this endless t-shirt debate...

mandolin wrote:
>
> personally, i kind of like the soc with interjected quotes thing, it's
> almost every awesome ig thing!  but, on the other hand, i see where the
> simplicity thing can come into play...  but lets get realistic here
> folks, as if we're all going to agree on one quote.  one solution that
> comes to mind is the list t-shirts for last year said (i think), indigo
> girls@netspace.org on the back, along with "i have no need for anger with
> intimate strangers" -a.ray.  on the front, i think it said ig or
> soemthing, and on the sleeve (ooh!) it said a+e=ig.  maybe we could do
> that again... make it a tradition(?)  otherwise, i don't really see all
> of us agreeing on one quote.  unless some people want to stop throwing in
> suggestions, i mean, shit, practically everything out of amy or emily's
> mouth/brain is worth quoting, so we need to start narrowing down here...
> (please don't get mad at me, i'm not irate if that's what it sounds like...)
> well, i'm not in charge of this undertaking or anything, but i just
> wanted to include mho...
> looooooov, mandy

well, pardon the newbie, but it sounds to me like ya'll need to decide
whether you want a quote that serves to represent the ig as artists or a
quote that is profound in its own right, without association...of
course, you could do both...

well that shoots that theory all ta hell...damn... >=/

steve
athens, ga

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subject:      re: goinggoinggone....

teresa c. esguerra wrote:
>
> eh-hem,
>         this is my last post before i'm outta here.  yes, mommy's picking
> me up today and i'm headed for the bay and then headed out of the bay
> towards the big easy (probably the very big easy once we're all there).
> all of you are in my thoughts and screams this weekend...for each time i
> shout "eeemmmmiiilllleeeeee!!!", i'll be thinking of sue and anna and
> hedgehog and lorindigo and the rest of you crazies.  and when i turn 21,
> the toast will be to my future aa days and the best list in the world.

(snaps) you go girl! (ack, someone shoot me)

>         satanic sidenote:  i've been getting way too may messages about
> my "bless you" satan worship post the other day, folks who have explained
> to me that pentagrams (pentacles? telegrams? diaphrams??) do not
> symbolize satan.  all i can say is "hey!  i grew up on motley crue so
> there!!!!!!"

you should here the hell i catch for the rush 2112 stickers on my car. i don't know how
many times i've had to explain why i have a picture of a naked man in front of a
pseudo-pentagram on my car... (sigh)

--
steve
english major, university of georgia, athens

"the time has come," the walrus said,
  "to talk of many things:
of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
  of cabbages--and kings--
and why the sea is boiling hot--
  and whether pigs have wings."

                -the immortal lewis carroll

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 03:47:59 -0400
reply-to:     steve averett <saverett@cris.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         steve averett <saverett@cris.com>
subject:      re: homo vs. hetero indigo
x-to:         lesley <layoder@cc.owu.edu>

lesley wrote:
>
> this whole topic just made me freak out with laughter when i first read
> i-girl's message......but then it really kind of made me think twice.
> how funny....

someone once tried to classify me as either larry, moe, or curly, which pissed me off to
no end (though in retrospect, it's funny as hell). i can't imagine what it must be like
to have to live within (or constantly defy)the constraints simple people have set up for
amy and emily...

--
steve
english major, university of georgia, athens

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 03:57:46 edt
reply-to:     mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      what about the concert?

amy and emily just gave their first concert in months and where
are the reviews of it?

i know people traveled away from their computers to attend, but
you've got an audience out here dying to know how it went.

did they anounce when thery would record again?  did they
do any new songs?  how did it go?  can anyone tell us????

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reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      i'm back! (nigc)

hi everyone,

just a note to let you all know that i am back, i'm back, i'm back,
i'm back!  (in case you didn't notice. :)

i wanted to thank everyone for all the support you gave me back
in march when i was so depressed about being fired.  all the
messages that i got really meant a lot.  well, that sounds lame
but i'm sure you know what i mean (and if you don't, you're not
really missing anything. :)  so, thanks everyone... you'll never
know how much better it made me feel, to know that even while
things seemed to be going so badly, there were people around the
other side of the world thinking of me...

well, anyway, enough mushy stuff.  i am back and i've got a new
address - sherlyn@fl.net.au.  i'm looking forward to getting back
into the swing of the list and catching up with everyone.  i'm
also thinking of making a trip out to the us & canada in a couple
of months, to see some concerts'n'stuff (i'd like to see me, dar
williams, maybe go to newport, plus see lots of other artists,
depending on who's playing and where i can get to).  so, if there's
anyone out there who will need a houseguest and someone to see some
music with in july or august or so, i selflessly volunteer myself
for the position (*snicker*).

okay, enough babbling.  it's good to be back!
take care all,
sherlyn

ps - did i miss anything in the month and a half i was away?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
        "for the moon on the water, for the light from the stars,
         oh i thank the spirits, whatever they are.
         for friendships that last, and songs from the past,
         and mrs. pinocchi's guitar..."         - cheryl wheeler

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 15:14:14 +0100
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      nigc:  to anyone in milwaukee ...

i just found this message in rec.music.folk and it concerns a joint in
milwaukee which apears to like ripping off musicians and their customers.
basically if you're in or around milwaukee don't touch it with a barge pole.
enjoy the read ...

mat

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| matthew j smith        \ "[the priest] said that if you have to work |
| mts5@aber.ac.uk         \   for anyone, an absentee boss is best."   |
| indigojo@freenet.hut.fi  \     - jeannette winterson, "the passion"  |
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|    billy bragg / indigo girls info:  http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/    |
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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: 30 apr 1996 02:31:35 -0400
from: tcloud2 <tcloud2@aol.com>
newsgroups: rec.music.folk
subject: warning to traveling musicians

to all musicians planning to travel to milwaukee:

i manage guy davis, a touring, acoustic blues musician on redhouse
records.  guy was confirmed to play at nomad's world pub in milwaukee on
wednesday, april 24th.  the owner and booker informed guy's agent on april
19th that guy shouldn't come to play.  he wasn't going to honor his
committment to present him and was cancelling the sound equipment he was
going to have to rent.  guy lives in nyc, and of course it was far too
late for guy to change his flight plans (it was the first date on the tour
of the upper midwest.)

we never received the contract back from this "man" (and i do use the term
figuratively, because he's obviously not even half of one), named mike
eitel.  so we have limited recourse.

guy went to the club at 7:00pm to honor his 8 o'clock committment.  he was
told by the bartender that mike was in chicago, and that mike was going to
mail a $75 check to guy's agent to cover guy's hotel bill.  a half hour
later, in walks this joker, mike.

mike offered guy this $75 which guy refused, telling mike that accepting
such an amount would be tantamount to accepting this as mike's entire
obligation. (the deal with the club called for mike to pay guy a fee of
only $250.00 vs. 90% of the door whichever was higher with an $8.00
ticket.)

guy pointed out to mike that he had photocopies of the previous weeks' ads
and listings for the club, listing guy's appearance.  mike asked guy what
he was going to do about it, and guy responded that he wasn't going to
make a stink there at the bar.

guy sat and had a cup of tea (which he insisted on paying for) with a
woman who'd come down to see guy play. guy then quietly left, after
getting the chance to size up the type of 'person' mike eitel really was.

to top it off, mike proceeded to bad-mouth guy's agent and myself.  i've
never spoken with this character (i tried to reach him on the 23rd to try
to settle the matter amiably, but was told mike was in chicago.  it seems
mike would be better off opening a place in chicago.)  mike also tried to
bad-mouth redhouse records despite the fact that redhouse sent cds to
everyone mike asked to have cds sent to, so it's obvious that mike hasn't
got a clue how to promote a show.

guy's in touch with the musician's union to settle this matter.

in the meantime, i just wanted to warn all musicians to stay away from
this little schmuck's place.  and for that matter, to anyone thinking of
even attending this joint.

for-warned is fore-armed,

thom wolke

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 08:05:41 -0700
reply-to:     giovanna <giovanna@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         giovanna <giovanna@ix.netcom.com>

hi!

i'm a newbie wondering if ig has a new concert schedule!?  thanks.

giovanna

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reply-to:     january simpson <simpson@hanover.edu>
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from:         january simpson <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      re: is there ever anything else that makes us take our different
              sides
x-to:         iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.a32.3.91.960207143351.8510a-100000@hopper.library.nwu.edu>

on fri, 3 may 1996 iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu wrote:
>
> but here's the thing.  couple-wise, i pretty much
> think amy-types should stick with amy-types and
> emily-types should stick with emily-types.  i'm not
> trying to tell people how to live their lives, but
> frankly i don't understand heteroindigo relationships.
> i'm just aghast when i see amys going out with emilies.
> of course, i don't say anything to their faces, but i
> just want to tell them, "quit now.  it'll never work."

tee hee hee.  well, i for one have to disagree.  i'm a self-proclaimed
amy-in-disguise (though i do have my emily moments), and my girlfriend
(of one year in eight days *grin*) is most definitely of the emily
persuasion.  it seems to be working just dandily, and i can't help but
think of what amy said when asked if either she or emily would ever go
solo..."me solo is too much me, emily solo is too much emily..."  i think
that could apply to relationships as well.  we  do have some moments of
utter confusion and bewilderment when it comes to the behavior/emotions
of the other, but that just makes it all the more interesting, and it
helps to keep things from getting too onesided.  we are the tao.  just do
the math...a + e = ig --  the results of that equation are, i think,
quite nice.
i suppose if i really wanted to be an amy type i would have written this
entire thing in caps lock.  oh well, too late.
leet it grow,
january

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 12:48:18 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      quick question

i'm just wondering how all of you got connected with this list? did a fellow
ig fan point it out to you or what? me... as soon as i got hooked up + on
line, i went to web crawler and did a search on the igs... that's how i
found the list. really glad about it too... :- ) just me, wondering what
clicks the rest of you along...
peace + pleasent weekend pastimes... kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
****************************************
take all my hallmark moments and you got
a brag book for the purse of my old age.
it'll be all i keep with me. the rest i'll
toss. it'll be dog-eared and tear wrinkled,
but it'll be full. not with bitterness, but
with a warm type of joy - kim does life.
****************************************

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reply-to:     scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu
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from:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      re: is there ever anything else that makes us take our different
              sides
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.93.960503160558.28596c-100000@wisdom.stanford.edu>

on fri, 3 may 1996, scot ninnemann wrote:
> dear friends, our only hope is for each of us to get in touch with both
> our amy and our emily sides.  we need amy's strength and emily's kindness,
> amy's heart-on-the-sleeve honesty and emily's emotional intelligence.
> it's like yin and yang, cheese and crackers, starsky and hutch, if you
> don't have both to draw from it's just not gonna work, you know, it's
> lopsided and is never gonna roll...

i'm not making a joke.  you know me, i take everything so seriously. =)

scot

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reply-to:     j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
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from:         j a m i e <suthardj@southwestern.edu>
subject:      re: quick question
x-to:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
in-reply-to:  <199605041948.maa15719@prcn.org>

when i first got on-line, i went to the ig places around the internet and
found out about the list.  then, i joined and realized that the friends i
havemade around the internet are also on the list. whoohoo!
that's just my answer...
jamie


                        "i've got to live my life the way i feel
                                is right for me, might not be right
                                        for you, but it's right for me."
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reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: quick question

i found out about it when i was in the #indigo-girls channel on irc.ais.net
(chat) i was asking if anyone knew about any upcoming concerts or anything
intersting ig going on, and they told me about this. very glad they did too!!!
:o) there, thats my story. how bout the rest of y'all???
tiff

:o)


at 12:48 pm 5/4/96 -0700, you wrote:
>i'm just wondering how all of you got connected with this list? did a fellow
>ig fan point it out to you or what? me... as soon as i got hooked up + on
>line, i went to web crawler and did a search on the igs... that's how i
>found the list. really glad about it too... :- ) just me, wondering what
>clicks the rest of you along...
>peace + pleasent weekend pastimes... kim
><kim fischer>
> rcn@prcn.org
>****************************************
>take all my hallmark moments and you got
>a brag book for the purse of my old age.
>it'll be all i keep with me. the rest i'll
>toss. it'll be dog-eared and tear wrinkled,
>but it'll be full. not with bitterness, but
>with a warm type of joy - kim does life.
>****************************************
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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 21:50:56 +0100
reply-to:     mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      indy iii reviews??

hy, er , hey :)

thought i'd fill time while waiting for my dissertation to print (slo-o-o-o-w)
and ask for some more reviews of indy iii (yaaay!!) still waiting for my g/f
to let go of my one sos i can listen to it, and i'm sure noone wants a review
of just my two tracks by, er, me...something about bias methinkgs...with a
silent 'g'.

sooo...let's hear tjem...er, them...next time i'll pick a puter with a delete
key that one can get to work...

ho hum and all that...

@}--,--'---


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  |      |  the white house        the love you take
  |      |   old quay lane          is equal to
  | (o)(o)    st. germans            the love
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/      \ +44 (0)1503 230505               'into the great wide open...'

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reply-to:     capistran amy l <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
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from:         capistran amy l <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
subject:      re: quick question
x-to:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
in-reply-to:  <199605041948.maa15719@prcn.org>

        well, it is thanks to list member harry keates that i am here.  i
am also on the billy joel list with harry and after we discovered our
similar music tastes he lead me here.  after at least six failed attemps
to get on i finally did and i couldn't be happier.  i wasn't listening to
ig as much as usual for a while but since joining the list i'm playing
them constantly again.  so thanks to harry for getting me here and thanks
to everyone else for all the great conversations.  especially the ones of
the last couple of days.  i needed a good laugh in the midst of finals.
                                                amy

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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      re: is there ever anything else that makes us take our different
              sides
x-to:         iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu

personally, i have always thought of myself as an a-type.
but, being the stereotypical gemini that i am, i am not
sure if i am attracted to a-types or e-types.

i mean, i could be attracted to a-types because they are
so much like me, or i could be attracted to e-types because
they possess what i do not possess myself.

this confusion is enough to make an a-type, break
strings, get a tattoo, or cut their hair, grow their hair
out and shave their hair again.  these are typical a-type
responses to emotional distress.  these are all things
that i have taken part in myself.

maybe that's why a-types love to scream sooooo much?
from an a-type that just cannot make up her mind.

:) (<-  huge grin)

alycia


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. . . people peg me as angry, militant and scary.  and when they
finally see me, standing 5 foot 2, they're like, 'what?  we
thought we'd be scared of you.'  i think that there are a lot of
women who are very sweet and quiet on the outside, but are
really walking around with this bomb inside.
                                               - ani difranco

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 17:49:51 -0400
reply-to:     indigopony@aol.com
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from:         indigopony@aol.com
subject:      jazz fest on vh-1

hi, y'all!  i was flipping through the channels, waiting for the derby to
come on, and i
saw that vh-1 was broadcasting from n.o.  they said that there were some
great
bands this year, "such as dave matthews band and indigo girls."  then they
said,
"now here's a great video from mariah carey".  it made me crack up that they
men-
tioned ig and mariah practically in the same sentence.  i guess you just had
to be
there...i kept hoping for them to have an interview with the girls, but i
never saw one.
btw, the veejay's name was amy scott.  tee hee!  come on, unbridled song!!!
i am so jealous of the n.o. people!!!
carrie (indigoponygirl)
p.s. i have been laughing my head off at the amy vs. emily posts.  i myself
am an
emily-oriented person, but i am tolerant of amy-people.  mixed relationships
can work!
if you are confused about your indigo-ality, there is help available.  there
must be an
800-number somewhere...

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date:         sat, 4 may 1996 15:56:43 -0600
reply-to:     chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
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from:         chris talbot <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
subject:      re: cortez thing
x-to:         avital <avital@cs.wisc.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199603141315.haa25587@chevre.cs.wisc.edu>

hi avital-
a while ago you posted to the list about the cortez the killer soc.  i
moved the message into some temporarily irretrievable place and then
stumbled across it today.  are you still willing to trade a copy of the
boot?  i have lot's of bootlegs but nothing really earth shattering.  let
me know and i can send you a list or whatever.

thanks,

chris talbot
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that the
universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
        --kevin smith

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subject:      appology and jcs project

oh, goodness, sorry everyone for posting that to the list.  a little
liberal with the y key.

second, to anyone who is interested in participating in the jcs project:
help!!  i'm signed up to do gethsemane and my pianist has royally
flaked.  so here's the thing.  if anyone out there would be willing -
please please please - to sign up to do it for me so i don't have to feel
like a royal flake for not doing it.  i think the deadline is may 20th.
sorry such short notice.

begging forgiveness twice,

chris ii
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
        --kevin smith

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subject:      challenge:  complete this

how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?


chris talbot
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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: challenge:  complete this

three.
one to screw it in, and two to sing and play guitar while the first one is
changing the lightbulb.

hehehehehe... i couldnt resist that one.. :o)

tiff


at 04:06 pm 5/4/96 -0600, you wrote:
>how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
>
>
>chris talbot
><chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
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>
> how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?


three.  one to change it, and two to agrue whether amy or emily would
                do it better.

or....

two.  one to change it and one to put up a single thread for the black.

                                -- chris

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on sat, 4 may 1996 18:17:03 edt, you wrote:

>> how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
>
>
>three.  one to change it, and two to agrue whether amy or emily would
>                do it better.

oh my, you made me spill my wine :-)

what sparks this answer:

two. an a-type who breaks it while trying to unscrew it,...
and an e-type to persuade it to work again.

have fun,  georg

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at 06:17 pm 5/4/96 edt, you wrote:
>>
>> how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
>
>
>three.  one to change it, and two to agrue whether amy or emily would
>                do it better.
>

good one!

>or....
>
>two.  one to change it and one to put up a single thread for the black.
>

um... pardon my stupidity, but i dont get this... care to explain??
:o)

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subject:      okay, lets pretend boys and girls

...that its almost time for the show. there's a hug crowd at the front of
the stage, a bunch of wacky beloveds in moo tshirts, and they are going
nuts. the sun is just beginning to set a tiny bit over new orleans...it's
hot, but not unbearable. those of us who drink have a nice beer buzz and
those of us who don't have a natural buzz that probably beats the feeling of
6 miller lites under the belt. the crowd is growing
restless....they hear tuning and things being moved around on stage but only
those way up front (the listservers who have been there since, like 5 am, no
doubt) can see what is happening. all the sudden the roaring crowd up front
lets out a fantastic noise as they get a glimpse of their heroines coming on
stage for the first time. picking up their guitars, greeting the crowd with
a " hey y'all!!", the pair grinning, they break instantly into the first
song as the crowd goes nuts to the strains of....

okay, that's my contribution. someone wanna take up where i left off?

:) susan

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subject:      the challenge..

how many indigo fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

all of us- amy to break it, and all of us to stumble bleeding on this broken
glass... to get another light bulb...


-kathy

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"if you have butterflies in your stomach.. ask them into your heart.."
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subject:      no fair, my mom is a strict non-igist

jeez. i am way jelous of all you that converted your moms to ig. i play them
all the time so now whenever i walk to the stereo my mom's immediate reaction
is to go to her room and shut the door so she doesn't have to hear them. she
does these hideous, mocking impressions, pounding her chest and waving her
arms and shreaking "i'mmm innnn paaaaiiiinnn". it is really awful. =(. . . i
have managed to convert a few people (3-4ish) at school so it is not my lack
of persuasiveness or "converting ability", at least i hope it isn't. . . i
think my mom just has questionable taste in music. one of her favorite tapes
is the sleepless in seattle soundtrack to which she sings along to stand by
your man with gusto. ug, not my style, definately. . . . well, "we are
fortunate ones" to have the girls even if others don't always appreciate
them. . . did any one who wasn't lucky enough to go to no catch the
riverpoets in santa cruz tonight? i wanted to go but i wasn't old enough, 15
being not quite close enough to 21 years of age for me to get in. . . hearing
you all talk about being a-types or e-types makes me think i am going through
an identity crisis at current. i always think i love one or the other,
depending on which one is singing. in the videos i have a hard time deciding
which one to swoon over (i generally end up choosing both). i think if i
*had* to choose i would be an a person but i am getting to identify with and
like e more and more as time goes on . . sigggghhhh. what babes they are. .
.wishing i were in no. . .

peace, love and acceptance

-catherine =)

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subject:      ig converts

am i weird or what?

i find it very difficult to listen to the igs when others are in the
same room let alone trying to "convert" people to be fans. i just find
thier music too personal. i remember i had to listen to rop with
headphones on so my girlfriend at the time couldnt hear it. not that she
didnt like them in fact our first date was an indigo girls concert. i
dont know.....maybe i am weird. not trying to flame anybody, but can we
tone down dislikes against other artists, ie: mariah carey. hey i like
the babe her lyrics is somewhat shallow but she has a killer voice.
also remember what emiliy says and/or quotes, "each life has its place."
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subject:      a peek at no

ig alert! greetings fellow go-heads who aren't reveling in no this weekend.
for those who are just *dying* to sneak a glimpse of jazzfest '96, check out
http://www.nojazzfest.com
better yet, check out the two photos of our beloved a and e at the
folloowing url's:
http://arachnid.qdeck.com/nojazzfest/indigogirls1.jpg
http://arachnid.qdeck.com/nojazzfest/indigogirls2.jpg

live vicariously through the internet.

it's late now...
moo,
karen
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subject:      ig converting

i think it's fun converting people to listen to the ig but on the other
hand, i have a different feeling about it.  i mean, in some ways, the ig
is like my little secret and private possession that i don't want to
share with anyone.  sometimes when i'm listening to them and say, someone
comes over to my house, i find myself turning it off because it's like my
personal little sanctuary that i retreat to...it's the one thing that's
mine and no one else's. it's hard to explain and sounds a bit insane, but
does anyone else relate?  i mean, one thing i like about the ig is that
they are not popular and mainstream and overexposed...they're like my
secret treasure that others haven't discovered and i want to keep them
hidden all to myself.  don't get me wrong, i know that there are many, many
fans out there (e.g. the people on this list) but the ig songs are like
my personal and deepest feelings put to music.  i don't want to share
them with just anyone...sound strange?  what do y'all think?

just a different twist on the subject,
gregg

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subject:      riddle me more...

how many indigo fans does it change to change a lightbulb?

none.  the lightbulb sits there while everyone is in new orleans.

karrie

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subject:      happy birthday!!! (may 4, 1996)

-- [ from: chris allen * emc.ver #2.10p ] --

happy birthday sheri and teri!!!

"...the moon has swallowed the sun and the light of the earth and so it
was for you when the river eclipsed your life but sent your soul like a
message in a bottle to me and it was my rebirth..."

"...i stood without clothes danced in the sand i was aching with
freedom kissing the damned i said remember this as how it should be..."

birthday folks:

sstanley@infinet.com (sheri)
sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu (teri)
happy graduation michael!
moo!
* :) *

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subject:      riddles.....

how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?

5.  one to do it while the other 4 sit around and debate if they are amy
identifiers or emily identifiers.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

why bother?  it is more fun to feel like the "prince of darkness...""
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

3000.  we all "get together" and do it as a team!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

none.  we all let the mariah carey fans do it so maybe they get a little light.
shed on them..."
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ok, so i really liked this question.
and if i weren't so tired and burnt out from thinking all week, i could do
more.  give me five hours sleep and i'll be even more clever than now.

i hear all of you groaning!!......be nice! 8-)

later-

karrie

                      "water retention is not new to me...."
emily saliers

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hey ya'll!

kudo to all riddle answers so far!  i especially liked the "broken glass one!"

how many indigo fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

(i know, this is _just_ wrong!  no flames please!)
there are way too many of us to all fit in that damn lightbulb......

(please, be nice to me!)
________________________________________________________________________

just give me a "hammer and a nail" and i'll take care of this lightbulb
situation once and for all!
________________________________________________________________________

all of us.  emily to do it, and all of us to coo about how soft the light is
now.
___________________________________________________________________________

ok, ok, i'll stop........

karrie

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                           -emily saliers

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>how many indigo fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

well the answer is obvious:

    power of two

however, the interpretation is not:

   1) 2 people using their collective power
or
   2) all powers of 2
      (i.e. 2**0=1, 2**1=2, 2**2 = 4, 2**3=8, 2**4=16,......)

of course, this interpretation would be "closer to sine".

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at 12:37 am 5/5/96 -0700, karen wrote:
>better yet, check out the two photos of our beloved a and e at the
>folloowing url's:
>http://arachnid.qdeck.com/nojazzfest/indigogirls1.jpg
>http://arachnid.qdeck.com/nojazzfest/indigogirls2.jpg
>
>live vicariously through the internet.

whoa, nelly!  i swear that that red guitar em is playing is not a guitar!
from the picture. it looks like a bass!  in fact, i just enlarged the shot a
bit, and i am quite sure.  this could be a very interesting development!  at
any rate, if it isn't a bass, it's at least a new electric guitar that em's
playing.  :)  i can't wait to hear reports back from the front on this one!


:dwayne

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everything i would do would be interesting"  -ani difranco

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hmmm,

     looking at the photo, in my own opinion, i believe that emily
is playing a fender stratocaster. if you look at the position of
her left hand you can see that she is at or around the 10th or 11th
fret. also, it looks like she's picking the e, b and g strings meaning
that she's probably playing a lead. that's just my opinion....
     another note: this guitar looks extremely similar to the strat
i saw amy playing at eddie's on 4-24-96....


                                                        see ya!
                                                              kim

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corection...

     looking back at the photo after posting.... it looks more like
the 15th or 16th fret...

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subject:      indigo conversions . . .

well, let's see, i've converted the following folks to the true
path of ig'ism . . .

1) my best friend -- i got her hooked with "love will come to you"
   at a time when she was going through a nasty breakup.  she and i
   saw them in detroit at the palace of auburn hills in '94 . . . {and
   if anyone has a boot of that, i'd *love* to get it for her!}

2) my fiance.  :)  he's been a harder case, but he's fully
   converted.  {and, for bride and groom's dance . . . it's power of
   two!  it was even his idea!}  he hasn't seen ig live yet, and we
   couldn't go to no this weekend due to his work **grumble**.  maybe
   newport . . .

3) my {now ex} roommate.  she loves rnb {ie boyz ii men **cringe**}
   right now {poor girl! ;) }, but i got her listening to ig, and she
   even bought rop.  i think it's a big step forward in her musical
   taste . . . she would even put up with tori for me! :)


but, i also have to agree with gregg who said about ig being too
personal.  there's a few songs of theirs that i can't have anyone
else within a couple of miles of me when i'm listening.  {ghost,
fare thee well come to mind immediately.}  but . . . for me at
least, i'm not the most eloquent person on the planet, and a song
can say so much more than i ever could, so i let the music speak
for me.  it's hard to explain, i guess . . .

nadyne.


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subject:      bye ya'll

          well, the last few months have been wonderful, but it is
          time for towanda the avenger to go.  never fear i'll be back
          to lurking/posting in august.  thanks for all the advice
          when i needed it.  this is truely one of the greatest lists
          i've been on.  thanks.

          i will not be complacent
                         -amy ray

          towanda
          aka lisa

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subject:      an atlanta buzz, mm, shawn, etc...(long,kinda)

hey y'all.. so i feel like i'm talkin' to myself on list.. makes me think
that there is nothing going on in atlanta.. well.. ha! our favorite artists
are *hard* at work...

whats up you say?

well.. this weekend was the midtown music festival.. ride the wood played,
uncle mark, dry county, mary fortune express, etc..  all of our favorites,
well, except for viva la diva, and radar rose..  also, joan baez and bob
dylan are the grand finale tonight..   no one said anything (anyone go?) and
since i did't go, all i can comment on what i saw on the schedule..

what else is going on?

lots..

michelle malone and band de soleil.. it's been out for awhile that they are
working on a cd-- bird on fire.. *unfortunately* this was supposed to be
released at the end of april, but has been put off till an undetermined
date..  but i can tell you it includes such favorites as medicated
magdalene, and butter biscuit.. look for it expectantly soon..

reversing hour.. i was listening to it today, and was thinking-- she sounds
like someone, and finally---- becky shaw, the lead singer/flautist-- sounds
like michelle malone, at times.. a compliment to both artists..

don conoscenti..  yep.. that master of every insturment around, and if he
hasn't mastered it yet he will soon, is on tour, releasing his new cd.. and
maybe in your area *right* now... he'll be at eddie's on the 6th of june..
check out his url to see if he is near you now:: www.songs.com/noma/donc

who else?  radar rose.. what are they doin'?  they are playing everywhere,
all the time as usual.. they recently did a tour down here, playin' eddie's
attic, oteys in b'ham, the loft in columbus- twice, where on the last night-
i heard- there was moshin'!  yeah!  dates for them::  9 may- o'dells -
roanoke va   -- 10 may- roscoes, lewsiburg,wva  11- confeddy's-- roanoke, va
check out their *site* for dates to the beg of august-- and for tour dates
in nc this month-- www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

viva la diva-- somewhere in atlanta on the 24th of may

i hear that wendy bucklew and matthew kahler are both back in the studio

and **shawn mullins**!!  releasing **egghead** his new cd on the 29th of
june- i hear there is a lot of spoken word, cool stuff.. new and very
different.. quiet is a word that was  used.. *cool*

the 28th through the 30th is gay pride weekend.. last year everyone i could
have dreamed of playing played, except for the indigo girls.. well... they
are playin' atlanta pride this year.. as reported from southern voice..
check it out..

okay.. tha'ts all from me.. i wish i had more info on artists i listed
here.. but i don't..

but here is a site that is *really* cool.. to  see if your favorites are
comin' your way.. and send the webmaster- sue, a note in gratitude for
keeping such a fabulous site up.. btw she is in a little town in pa::

http://nauticom.net/www/muzikgal/home.html

it's a killer site..

that's it.. sorry this is so long..

take care y'all.. and keep listening :))

-brooke

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"if you have butterflies in your stomach.. ask them into your heart.."
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on sun, 5 may 1996, dwayne d. jarrell wrote:

> >
> >live vicariously through the internet.
>
> whoa, nelly!  i swear that that red guitar em is playing is not a guitar!
> >from the picture. it looks like a bass!  in fact, i just enlarged the shot a
> bit, and i am quite sure.  this could be a very interesting development!  at
> any rate, if it isn't a bass, it's at least a new electric guitar that em's
> playing.  :)  i can't wait to hear reports back from the front on this one!

yep dwayne is right, that is definitely a bass emily is playing, the
headstock is standard for fender precisions and it's only got 4 pegs, so
that's pretty much definitely a bass.   is that other woman sara lee?

mat

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in a message dated 96-05-01 12:54:17 edt, mat wrote:

>anyone out there interested in fighting racism might be interested in
>checking out a web page entitled "be wise as serpents" which spreads the
most
>vicious anti-semitic propaganda which has been seen in recent years.

shutting down this web page or any other would, imho, be a violation of free
speech.  however, one measure of their success is the counter which increases
each time someone accesses the web page.  so i would suggest that we not
access this page... it would just make their number of accesses higher and
make them look better.

tracy brough
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subject:      color me grey

hey ya'll!

i would give my eye teeth for a copy of color me grey!
does anyone have one that would be willing to make me one or even trade for
melissa etheridge or tori amos boots.  i also have mle video that i would
be willing to trade for it!

please help me!
i have amy ray withdrawl...................

thanks-

karrie

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*sigh* me too, i fear.  my mother (whom i believe is suffering from severe
internalized homophobia) has a real problem with ig.  she says that they
are either always depressed or angry.  she is under the impression that
amy tries to be "tough and rough and manly" and thinks that emily is
always sad.  i've tried to explain that amy isn't always angry she's just
very passionate and expresses all emotions to the extreme in her music
and that emily isn't always depressed (i personally can't see where she
comes up with this notion), but mom will not listen.  it's quite sad.
oh well, i'm happy for those of you who have had better luck...
january

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on sat, 4 may 1996, chris talbot wrote:

> how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?

three... one to do it, and two to play guitar and sing in harmony about it.


>
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> universe could be so kind
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hey, that was mine!!! :o) looks like im not the only one with that kind of idea!
i like the way you think pc!
tiff


at 03:10 pm 5/5/96 -0400, you wrote:
>on sat, 4 may 1996, chris talbot wrote:
>
>> how many indigo fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
>
>three... one to do it, and two to play guitar and sing in harmony about it.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> chris talbot
>> <chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>
>>
>> "i cannot believe that the
>> universe could be so kind
>> as to be godless."
>>         --kevin smith
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subject:      nigc: ani in san fran

hey y'all,

   i just got myself a great birthday present last night.  i'm going to san
francisco on may 27 to see ani difranco (i live in  albuquerque, nm).  i'll
be staying in san francisco for 4 days and i've never been there.  last
year for my birthday i got to see the indigo girls in phoenix and i also
was given a backstage pass, so i got to meet them again.
     anyways, i'm really spoiled by living here in new mexico because when
i saw ani here a few months ago i was in the 3rd row. i'm always front row
at the paolo solari ampitherater in santa fe when ig plays there.  it's
easy when it's your home state. so, the show in san fran is at the maratime
hold and it's general admission.  i am under the impression that this is a
huge space and i'd love to get within the first ten rows for this show.
     does anyone on this list live in san francisco and/or has anyone been
to a general admission show at the maratime?  how early do i need to get
there?  my plane gets in at 10:45 am.
     second, i'd love to get a copy of this show.  does anyone know
anything about which brand/type of recorders and mikes would pick up best.
where does one put this exactly to get it into the show?  and what's the
security and/or searching policy like at the maratime hold?
     i need some help here, i'm kinda in the dark.   :p


                                --sunny

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subject:      re: a peek at no

ok...

   after reading the latest post on this topic i feel i have to
interject once again. (not tryin' to pick <grin> anything...just
tryin' to see what others see that i don't see).
   some seem to think that it's a bass emily is playing and i seem
to be the only one so far that believes it's a fender strat. the
reason being is because of the position of not only her left hand
but her right as well. the left hand seems to be pretty close to the
body (of the instrument) where a lot of leads are played. the right
hand seems to be picking the bottom strings. just from my own experience
playing the guitar it makes more sense, to me, that she's playing lead.
i feel that if it is a bass then she'd be futher back in the opposite
direction and using the top strings.
   also, the girl (and forgive me for not knowing who she is) in the
background seems to be playing bass. now if this is correct then why
would there be two bassists? or is she playing guitar? to me it looks
like a bass. in a lot of cases, looking head on, the bassist is usually
on the left side and the guitarist is on the right. that's just how i see
it and it doesn't mean that i am right.
   i also have to say that the picture i am getting, using netscape's
browser, is not too clear. i can't see how many pegs are on the head. if
it is clearly four then i am definately wrong.
   i am just having fun with this and am curiously awaiting the reviews!!
hope i haven't struck a bad chord <grin> with anyone here!!

                                                          later!
                                                               kim

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subject:      the list.

i found out about this list through infoseek "search" tool.  i am new but
so far really like the discussions i've seen on this list.  after reading
a few messages i screamed out to my roommate.."these are my people..."
so keep up the discussion and i hope to join in ...

lorri

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subject:      re: a peek at no

well... felt i had to put my $.02 in, so here goes. i looked at the picture
too, and it is definitely a bass--i can see the four tuning pegs. the person
in the back(who i've heard possibly be sara.. dont quote me on it) looks
like she's playing a guitar-6 strings. thats what it looked like to me
anyway. anyone else have anything to add?

peace,
tiff

at 04:51 am 5/5/96 -0700, you wrote:
>ok...
>
>   after reading the latest post on this topic i feel i have to
>interject once again. (not tryin' to pick <grin> anything...just
>tryin' to see what others see that i don't see).
>   some seem to think that it's a bass emily is playing and i seem
>to be the only one so far that believes it's a fender strat. the
>reason being is because of the position of not only her left hand
>but her right as well. the left hand seems to be pretty close to the
>body (of the instrument) where a lot of leads are played. the right
>hand seems to be picking the bottom strings. just from my own experience
>playing the guitar it makes more sense, to me, that she's playing lead.
>i feel that if it is a bass then she'd be futher back in the opposite
>direction and using the top strings.
>   also, the girl (and forgive me for not knowing who she is) in the
>background seems to be playing bass. now if this is correct then why
>would there be two bassists? or is she playing guitar? to me it looks
>like a bass. in a lot of cases, looking head on, the bassist is usually
>on the left side and the guitarist is on the right. that's just how i see
>it and it doesn't mean that i am right.
>   i also have to say that the picture i am getting, using netscape's
>browser, is not too clear. i can't see how many pegs are on the head. if
>it is clearly four then i am definately wrong.
>   i am just having fun with this and am curiously awaiting the reviews!!
>hope i haven't struck a bad chord <grin> with anyone here!!
>
>                                                          later!
>                                                               kim
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subject:      re: a peek at no

i just took another look at this picture from netcom. it was,
oddly enough, much clearer than the one in netscape. and, yes, it does
have only four tuning pegs...


~krae is now blushing a lovely shade of red~

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subject:      just curious+pics

i was just wondering - how does one get backstage passes or photo passes etc.?
also, i looked at the pictures today too and it does looks like there are
only four pegs.  did emily decide to try bass instead of piano on their
break?  hmm.  i couldn't figure out who it was in the back.  oh well - if
any no goers feel like answering this question or posting any interesting
tidbits they'd be greatly appreciated!  or we'll just have to find out at
newport (i heard ani is playing on sat :) )
-sarah

sarah wardrop

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subject:      re: a peek at no

i did receive confirmation from someone who was there that emily played bass
and banjo!  :-)  and amy played mandolin.  that person, however, did not
have the energy to reveal more or post to the list (probably because s/he
would get too many requests for more info).   so i don't know any more.  i
do, however, have the patience (for once) to wait and hear the full deal
when someone has the chance to post.  i definitely think it is cool that em
played bass, and i want to see her do it someday.  :)

so i am not crazy...  well, at least this didn't prove it.  :-)

:dwayne

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and the smoke would curl/around my face/
everything i would do would be interesting"  -ani difranco

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subject:      jazz fest... c's digest version

just stumbled in trough the door.....veery little sleep
since may 1..... no one seems to sleep in nrw orleans.
synopsis...
jazz fest may 2... fuuun, ate crawdaddies bought stuff
oooowww. michelle shocked...great ! (butt dance ..fun !)
horrible sweating man who took kirstinas front row spot
while she went on a water run...baaaad....refused to move..
joe gave him the evil eye and the security guard finnally
eradicated him from our presence..(gooood!)
happy !
two chicks from georgia with guitars ..very good !
crowd with them all the way.
new songs (4 ar songs)(yesss!).."don't give that girl a gun"
"shame on you" my new favorite songs !
michael lorant (percussion, accordian & clarinet) & sheila doyle
backing them up.....lorantclarinet solo on crazy game (very nice).
sheila on violin and bass(emily on bass also)hot house flowers
guy played a flute thingy
everybody upbeat and happy !

fri & sat..... power shopping and eating.
friday dinner, bowling, all nite jam....kristal does a devestatingly
hilarious
interpretive dance to "down by the river" (go girl..i'm crushing your head
!)..
i've got blisters on me fingers !!!

ig an jb and jo at uno....
music...great !!!!!
security guards....mean !!!!!!
no dancing in the isles allowed..
busting folks with slr cameras...but not instamatics...
even when venue says open access...pictures allowed
...jerks...slr camera means "professional" so no go..
is the extreemely lame excuse [loosly translated...the pictures
might turn out good...and we can't have that] (ain't no way to treat
a loyal audience)
(much happy snapping at outdoor concert though... yay !!!)
frequent scuffles durng the show up front involving mean security
facists and poor shiny happy people makes bad vibes man...
(bottom line ..reserved seating at an ig show is a bad idea)
ig perseveres through the storm singing their hearts out while
a woman sleeps in the second row ...surreal... sight of guards pushing
( and roughly..i might add) dancing folks away from the front while ig
sang ctf....sad.
new es song ! yay!!!! really great !!!!...just her and a banjo.(not the
title)
joan baez  joins ig for encore....don't think twice'.....
michelle malone joins them for second encore....wild horses (yesss!)
jb, ar and es close with finlandia.....beautiful !!!!

stay up all nite then go to airport....fly home ...
must sleep now
i'll leave the details to the others :)
zzzzzzz.......claire

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subject:      the first detail...

sigh...
        claire said she'd leave the details to others, so i'll be the
first to spill some sort of bean.

        joan baez's son played some percussion for his mom (enough cannot
be said as to how incredible joan was/is/will always be).
anyways...gabriel (the son) also joined amy and emily on stage for a few
songs (i can't remember which ones...i want to say closer to fine but
sleep deprivation has made me delusional...like trant).

        emily looks over at this strapping young buck (he really was sort
of studly looking), checks him out a bit, then turns to the audience to
say....
        "he's fuckin' beautiful, isn't he?"

        i nearly died laughing.

        does anyone remember the first time you heard your mom cuss?  it
was sort of that same reaction.

        next detail anyone?

ohfeelin'my way,
teri

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subject:      who is allen page?

i was just watching the jcs video and still don't know the answer to this
question.  can anyone else tell me who allen page is and why the video is
dedicated to him?  thanks

k

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subject:      emily

i have now found my new signature line....


karrie

                   "he's fuckin' beautiful, isn't he?"
                                -emily saliers

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subject:      my votes :)

fav quotes list
---

this was as much as i could narrow it down to. i figure we should get
some finalist then vote again. what you guys say ?


euporic but missing new friends
kristal

-------------


i will not be complacent.


trying to read the greek upon the stars, an alphabet of feeling.

everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me.


oh you set up your place in my thoughts, moved in and made my thinking crowded.

everything that i believe is wrong with you is wrong with me. everything i
truly love, i love in
you and i love in me.

i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with freedom,
kissing the damned.  i said remember this as how it should be.

it's all in our hands.  got to learn to respect what we don't understand.
we are forunate
ones, fournate ones, i swear.

thought i knew my mind like the back of my hand.  the gold and the rainbow
but nothing
panned out as i planned.

and i guess thats how you started, like a pin-prick to my heart, but at this
point you rush
right through me and i start to drown.

i wish i was a nomad, an indian or a saint.  give me walking shoes,
feathered arms and a
key to heavens gate.

when your whole life is on the tip of your tongue empty pages for the no
longer young the
apathy of time laughed in your face did you hear me say, each life has its
place.

multiply life by the power of two.


a + e = ig  the alphabet of feeling.

i was wide-eyed and laughing
we were dancing up to the bright side


it's hard not to rock the boat when your sailing against the undertow

there i am in younger days star gazing painting a picture perfect map, of
how my life and
love would be.  not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection, my compass,
faith in loves perfection, i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen.

rain soaked and voice choked like silent screaming in a dream, i searched
for our absolute distinction.

i'd walk into the fingers of your fire willingly.
and dance the edge of sanity i've never been this close

now you ask me why i'm here, same as you i'm scared its fear.

i see a warrier barefoot and dancing

soc

you sent your soul like a message in a bottle to me and it was my rebirth
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from:         "teresa c. esguerra" <sac83826@saclink1.csus.edu>
subject:      it couldn't all be perfect, could it...

yuck!
        i went to the one hour photo lab and my pictures of the concert
were all washed out.  it's pathetic.  i might have a printable one of
emily, amy and joan...all for not.

        i guess i was snapping like a madwoman.  but all the touristy
stuff came out.  grouchgrouchgrouch.

        bummer ain't it?

ohfeelin'my way,
teri

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subject:      please!!!!!!!

i really need to know about the concert that is in september or
august!!!!!!!!!!!   somebody help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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subject:      re: the first detail...

at 06:34 pm 5/5/96 -0700, teresa wrote:
>emily looks over at this strapping young buck (he really was sort
>of studly looking), checks him out a bit, then turns to the audience to
>say....
>        "he's fuckin' beautiful, isn't he?"
>        i nearly died laughing.
>        does anyone remember the first time you heard your mom cuss?  it
>was sort of that same reaction.
>
agggacckkk!!!!!!!
are you *sure* she said this???? i am reeling. i'm certain our e would be
much more poetic....
are you *sure*?????
okay... new one for my therapist... the worst thing my mom ever said was
*damn*, and that was when she broke her leg... okay... where's my phone
book... uh... dr. icanfixyou's # must be here some where....
peace all... kim, who must have some sort of weirdo problem when it comes to
four letter words.... :- )
<kim fischer>
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with a warm type of joy - kim does life.
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date:         sun, 5 may 1996 23:27:19 -0600
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subject:      need ig bootleg cds
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well, looks like my fine collection of indigo girls cds has been
reduced to one.  i was on the recieving end of a burglary today
and the thief apparently values my taste in music.  amoung the 80
cds that were stolen were all my indigo girls's cds except for one
(the uk _closer to fine_ single).  missing in action are every
ig cd available except _reverse-1_, _club rio_ and _in with the out
crowd_.

if anyone has a lead on any of the singles (including uk and australian),
_shades_, three hits, all the cd bootlegs, etc please let me know.
the insurance company should be coming through with the check by the
end of next week and i'd like to start replacing the hard to find cds as
soon as possible.  (hopefully, they won't come back for my vinyl
collection!)

any help will be much appreciated.

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subject:      jonas and ezekiel..

hello everyone,
i was wondering if anyone could help me out.  i am doing a paper for my
bible as literature class on the prophet ezekiel with a "feminist"
perspective.  partly because i have been intrigued lately with amy's
song.  the only problem is i am not really sure what to make of the
song.  (at least not enough to write a paper or anything based on it.)
amy herself said she didn't even know what the song was about, (sigh...)
so... do any of you have any insights, interpretations or ideas?  i'd
appreciate it.  thanks.

lorri

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subject:      the concert...

hello all,
        well, it seems like not too many people have posted about the
concert, the listserv might be slow though, so sorry if these comments
are repeats... this was my first ig concert (only my 2nd concert ever,
very different from the bush/goo goo dolls one i'd been to before :)  ),
and it was *incredible*.  first of all, i didn't know i'd be going until
a week before, it worked out that it was right in the gap of my finals
schedule (i have multivariable calculus in about 6 hours and physics on
tuesday), and it was a bit random that these juniors asked me if i wanted
to go.  actually, not totally, a friend and i did galileo for a rug
concert (small talent show) and one of the juniors mentioned
afterwards that she was going to the concert...
        anyways (sorry for the rambling, it's late), we had seats in the
very last row at the very top, but it was still *so* worth it.  somebody
posted about the new songs, they were incredible.  they opened with thin
line, and then did the wood song (yea!)... i'm not quite sure about the
others, i suppose someboyd out there has a complete set list.  amy
played mandolin on ctf and at least one other song, while emily played
bass on one of amy's new songs.  as someone posted, emily played the
banjo on her new song (done solo) called get out the map? i think.  amy
said that it was the first time the "shame on you song" had been done in
front of an audience... i should really get back to studying, i was so
wired last night i got very little sleep (plus we drove back immediately
after the concert 6 hours to houston... ).  oh yea, joan baez in the
intro to one of her songs said that ig called her "the matriarch" and
that she called them "gifted young whippersnappers" :)
        ok, back to lurkdom and studying for finals... i feel so incredibly
lucky to have been able to go... wish you all could have been there...

peace,
sabrina

schan@rice.edu/rice '99/hanszen college/http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~schan
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"emily first played this song for me on the sidewalk in front of the white
dot in atlanta.  i thought it was okay, but not her strongest... oh well,
what do i know."  amy ray on emily's "closer to fine"

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subject:      emily rules!!

>        emily looks over at this strapping young buck (he really was sort
>of studly looking), checks him out a bit, then turns to the audience to
>say....
>        "he's fuckin' beautiful, isn't he?"
>
>        i nearly died laughing.

my lord!!  this could possibly be the emily quote highlight of my life.  if
someone has this on tape i must hear it.  this line alone has made me so
happy and made me laugh so hard that i am officially in major like with
emily.  this comment is right up there with the one she said on some early
boot about amy wearing izod sweaters at there first shows.  i was floored.
man--i may have to even go back and try to like fare thee well as a result
of this.  wow oh wow.
kinda makes me wanna meet the strapping young buck as well ;-).  later y'all

greg

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subject:      new (?) ig bootleg:  uptown girls

hey, everybody.  sorry if this is old news, but i don't remember
seeing it posted here yet.

i picked up a new ig bootleg at rainy day records this weekend, one
called uptown girls.  as you might expect, it's a cd bootleg of the
live at the uptown lounge show.  it also includes some live-in-the-
studio recordings of three hits, power of two, and least complicated.
the sound is *excellent*.

again, sorry if this is old news, but i thought i'd mention it here
just in case it wasn't.

deanna
(waiting for more new orleans details!)

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subject:      welcome lorri and welcome back no'ers!

>>i found out about this list through infoseek "search" tool.  i am >>new but
>>so far really like the discussions i've seen on this list.  after >>reading
>>a few messages i screamed out to my roommate.."these are >>my people..."
>>so keep up the discussion and i hope to join in ...

>>lorri

welcome lorri!  that is exactly how i felt when i met the list, and i also
met it the same way...quite a bit.more than a year now, time flies!

please keep those great no reports coming! setlists? fashion reports (grin)
etc.....

yay

it won't even matter that its raining,

love

larissa

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alan,

sorry to hear of your loss.  please send complete ig want list and it shall
be filled as entirely as possible!

have you heard of the ep and more?  it's first issue (only 25 cds) was a
great success -- if you call selling out in 3 hours a success.  the second
run of 25 will be on hand in about 2 weeks.  prepayment of $34.95 is
required.  it's quite a bargain, really.  here's the track list:

land of canaan (4:20)
lifeblood (4:21)
history of us (5:19)
never stop (2:24)
cold as ice (4:03)
finlandia (2:34)
falling star (4:45)
carry me away (3:52)
sweet gypsy (3:48)
i'll be there (3:14)
you are free (3:49)
holy city (3:14)
land of canaan (4:10)
lifeblood (3:57)
never stop (2:28)
cold as ice 3:59)
should have never crossed my path (6:05)

only 200 will be burned in lots of 25 throughout the summer.  each lot will
be dated and numbered 1 - 25.  tracks 1 - 6 are the ep; 7 - 11 are from
color me grey; and the remainder are from various early shows, the last two
being curious studio ramblings.  it's quite a cool item.

on the local front and worth having:
straw village (todd miechiels and linda bolley among others)
3 lost souls (kevolution and band  -- super cool rock)

how goes life other than your car being broken into?  that's really a shame
-- you leave the city to get away from that kind of crap and what happens?
it follows you.  i guess folks are the same everywhere, a weird mix of good
and evil.  a friend of mine has lately been reading a lot of joseph
campbell which led him to alan watts which led him to eastern mysticism.
it seems my friend is just now discovering that western religion threw him
a curve with the idea of polar opposites.  he's amazed by the concept of
good and evil each being manifestations of the same thing -- christ and the
devil as two parts of one god.  oh well.  just a touch of philosophy with
your compact discs.

keep in touch lad.  and watch for a new web site at

www.rainy.com

peace,
perry


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hi everyone!

sorry to post this to the list, but i'm just returning from n.o. and arriving
back down on planet earth.... i tried to get off of digest form, but can't.  can
someone please inform me of how i should go about doing this.  i'd be most
appreciative.  :)

thanks!

tamara

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subject:      attn:  new orleans concert goers!

hey everyone!

could those of you who went to n.o. please send me your name and email address
so that we can get that list going (since we never got it while we were there)
for photo swapping, etc.  once i get all of the addresses, i'll send them out to
everyone who went so that we can organize the best way to do this.

i've been euphoric for days, now back to reality.... hmmmm.. reality sucks!!
finals arrrggggh!!!!

peace and prayers for great photos!!  (still ohfeelin' your way, huh teri?!!!)

tamara  :)

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subject:      re: new orleans envy -- not me!

well you certainly missed out.  i wouldn't have missed joan baez & ig for
the world.  their finale of "finlandia" in 3 part harmony was beautiful -
to say the least.

glad i spent over $600 to trek across the south to see "just" a concert.
- jen hall
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from michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>, on 5/1/96 11:22 pm:
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is it just me or does it seem completely insane to trek half way acros the
country for a concert, and by a group that tours incessantly?? i dunno it
seemns like every one seems to have the "i must see ig in new orleans or,
like, my life will be over" attitude. this isnt a bitch, i totally could
have gone (my sweetheart from years past lives in the french quarter and i
was invited) and i do have the cash (a *surprise grant for 300 dollars
arrived for me monday) but i mean just all that travel seems so long, maybe
it is because i have taken too many long bus trips this semester and i have
pulled a few too many all nighters working on a thesis, but i also have
classes i can't miss and i think my folks would kill if i went to no
instead
of paid bills (like the money i still owe from going to new hampshire to
hear my favorite writer talk or the phone bills to get the information to
see said writer, john hockenberry, in a off broadway play in march.


and imagine all the concert tickets you can buy with airfare, esp.
newport...


wanting tapes of course of no, too bad real audio cant b'cast it or someone
couldn't encode it for d/l off a web server (keep it private or perhaps
ftp)
ok, ok, i am definitely turning into a computer nerd...let's just say my t3
connection gets pulled in a week and i will be crawling along at 14.4 .....
till next semester.

mike r

the above comments were not to rag on anyone going, because even tho i deny
it i am insanely jealous!

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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      msg from perry
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hey everyone,

        perry wants me send an apology out to you for the e-mail
meant for alan fleming that went to all of you.

        the ep and more cd does exist, but rdr has decided not
to take advance orders at this time, until their shipment has come
in.  when they are available, everyone will be notified.  perry
does consider all of you out there to be good customers.  becuase of
the limited batch of the first run of the ep, perry had contacted
only those who he has had longer relationships with, but he does plan
to make it available for all interested over time, even if he must
go beyond the originally planned first 200 copies.  stay tuned,
more details will be posted as available.  perry does thank all
of you for your business and interest and, as in the past, he
will make good to us all.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      re: converting people to ig

i don't think ig needs any help with record sales.
i would give folks a copy of "not dead (yet)"
and  "jesus christ superstar, a resurection"
and suggest they check out all of the artists on those
most excellent recordings.

claire (i'm not your mom, but i may just be as old as her ;)

*support independent artists*

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subject:      re: reunion-clothes horsies

in a message dated 96-05-03 15:16:46 edt, dr. lorindigo  writes:

>remember the picture of her with her
>suitcase in 1200c? well, that's her suitcase, so, there's only so many
>outfits
>_in_ there.

yeah ...i was thinkin 'bout that scene when i was pondering that question..
and having just come back from the no trip, with waaaaay too much stuff
...i looong to learn the secrets of bringing just enough stuff that will fit
in a itty bitty suitcase...i have just never figured out how to do that,
there were people at the airport with luggage no bigger than my
back pack.. i was thinking ...man...how do they do that ????
i guess you just can't wear different stuff every day, like at home...
but then ...in new orleans i wanted to change clothes and shower
twice a day...

love power !
claire (pondering....)

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subject:      re: it couldn't all be perfect, could it...

in a message dated 96-05-05 22:15:40 edt, teri writes:

>  i went to the one hour photo lab and my pictures of the concert
>were all washed out.  it's pathetic.  i might have a printable one of
>emily, amy and joan...all for not.

hence the bullshit "rule" about slrs.(single lense reflex cameras
w/ detachable lenses....like my 500mm :)
(but i did it anyway...hahahaha !
so there, you evil corporate dogs !!!)

"natasha" (art lives by no mans rules !)

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from:         january simpson <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      re: emily rules!!
x-to:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v0153050eadb37904c3b1@[129.105.186.74]>

on mon, 6 may 1996, greg matthew flamer wrote:

> man--i may have to even go back
and try to like fare thee well as a result of this.

pardon me, did i read you correctly?  try to like???
i think there must be a glitch on my screen :)
peace and stuff,
january

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on mon, 6 may 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-05-05 22:15:40 edt, teri writes:
>
> hence the bullshit "rule" about slrs.(single lense reflex cameras
> w/ detachable lenses....like my 500mm :)
> (but i did it anyway...hahahaha !
> so there, you evil corporate dogs !!!)
>
> "natasha" (art lives by no mans rules !)
>
two snaps and a clap!!!

january

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on mon, 6 may 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-05-03 15:16:46 edt, dr. lorindigo  writes:


> ...i looong to learn the secrets of bringing just enough stuff that will fit
> in a itty bitty suitcase...i have just never figured out how to do that,
> there were people at the airport with luggage no bigger than my
> back pack.. i was thinking ...man...how do they do that ????
>
as a champion of light packers everywhere, i feel almost obligated to
reply to this.  not to brag, but i went on my one week wpring break (went
on a trip to tennessee for a habitat-ish program) and managed to fit
shower supplies, two pairs of jeans, three pairs of shorts, seven shirts
(plus an extra to sleep in), eight pairs of socks, ditto underwear, and
extra pair of shoes, and my camera in a small gym bag and my back pack.
not to brag, just to let you know what can be done.  the secret is in the
proper folding of clothes and very anal use of baggage space (you'd be
amazed how many empty corners are left -- put your socks there!).  of
course, none of my friends seem to appreciate my ability *sigh*  as a
matter of fact i get called anal, finicky, mental, and a crazy capricorn
just to name the most frequent.  but that's okay.  when you start your
adventures in the world of minimal luggage use, pay no heed to those who
scoff and discourage your attempts.  make it your goal to one day board a
plane knowing that the only luggage you have to worry about is the bag
you're carrying on!!!  sorry, i got a little carried away.  take care and
good luck.
peace,
january

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subject:      jazzfest 96

        hi all.  jazzfest on may 2nd was fabulous.  and yes, emily was
playing a bass guitar.  and yes, amy did play the mandolin.  and yes,
michael lorant played a clarinet.  and yes, they all seemed to have a great
time laughing at each other's respective attempts to conquer a new
instrument or remember the lyrics and music to the new songs - which are
great.  and they apologized more than once for not having played during the
last eight months after which they found they'd forgotten their own stuff...
        i have a selective memory so wait on those who don't to post
specifics but....
michelle shocked was a blast.  indigo girls set - they opened with galileo.
emily sounds really good - her voice was really strong.  it seems they
remembered more of emily's old stuff then amy's - even did crazy game.
whoa.  finished with finlandia. (gosh - i don't want to write too much about
it - don't want anyone to feel bad they missed it.) amy played four new
songs, and as usual was intense, deep, and dark. but she wore a big smile
the whole show. (both appeared relaxed and sounded great) amy sang the song,
"don't give the girl a gun" which someone posted as hearing at eddie's attic
a few weeks ago.  it's great.  she sang another about anorexia - also good,
another that digest version description was against racism (the mexican side
of the trailer park where they sang shame on you to the white side or
something like that), and another that a girl was leaving and she was going
with her that somehow just ended up in chiapas, mexico. i missed the
transition both at the jazzfest and at the concert - but it too was good.
        wore my moo! shirt and was lucky enough to be recognized and
escorted to the list gathering at the very front and center ahead of the
stage.  everyone was really laid back and friendly.  it was really a
pleasure to match names to faces for the brief period of time i managed to
remember them.  nice meeting y'all! - now i'm sorry i didn't get to spend
more time with the la quinta group - i missed out on the all night jam
session.  still it was great to bask together in the glow of the igs.
        the concert on may 4th - joan osborn opened, joan baez middled, and
the girls finished.  joan osborn, whom i've seen open for me, didn't sound
right.  her sound board wasn't mixed well so her songs came off too strident
and and her voice wasn't projecting well enough.  joan baez was perfect.
she looks great.  sixty-four years old in jeans, a t-shirt and suspenders,
still a political activist, her voice has mellowed into fine wine, and her
guitar prowess is enviable.  wow.  she said the igs call her the matriarch
and she calls them the gifted something (my memory) whippersnappers.
whoever objected to the f-word, joan baez used it in one of her songs first,
then emily _did_ say, about joan baez's son, "isn't he f'ing beautiful?",
and then amy used it in one of her new songs.  i wouldn't have remembered
except for the post of disbelievement that emily would say something like
that.  i know, trivia.
        but _emily_ played a new song of hers.  solo, on a banjo.  yes, a
banjo.  and it was fantastic - as always.  and amy played the four new songs
she had played on thursday.  i know they opened with thin line, sang crazy
game, three hits, galileo, wood song, wild horses (with joan baez and
michelle malone), closer to fine, the new songs, and closed with don't think
twice and finlandia (with joan baez).  the show was great - like the first
sip of water after being thirsty for what seemed eons.
        i'll leave the remaining review thoughts to the rest who probably
have memories and will be able to give better updates than my selective
memory.
        again, it was truly a pleasure to meet those of you who went to no.
hope y'all enjoyed it as much as i did.
almost truly yours,

karen

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subject:      uno seating....yeah right!

hey all....hope ya made it home okay!

on fri, 3 may 1996, bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>i want to make sure that the tickets are as good as i think they are.
>they are orch l - row 10 - seats 1-3

yeah....those seats *were* good.......until the ones closer to fine became
available!  ;)

missin' my new family....yes...and even the chaos that reigned...
(where we eatin' again? ;)

:)
eric

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subject:      carry-ons and longest travel for ig concert ...

>> ...i looong to learn the secrets of bringing just enough stuff that will fit
>> in a itty bitty suitcase...i have just never figured out how to do that,
>> there were people at the airport with luggage no bigger than my
>> back pack.. i was thinking ...man...how do they do that ????
>>lorindigo
> make it your goal to one day board a
>plane knowing that the only luggage you have to worry >about is the bag
you're carrying on!!!
>january

well, i'm not the queen of careful packing, but i've managed to do my best
... spent two weeks on the west coast (flew into san francisco and drove up
the coast to fly home out of  seattle ... beautiful place out there!) and
lived out of two carry-on bags.   and after the terrible things that have
happened to my checked luggage, i *only* travel with carry-on bags now.
mind you, it was late summer/early fall and the weather was great; winter
packing is much more difficult - heavier clothes and all.  and i did ship
goodies home.   did i cheat? :-)

igc: and *now* (how many months later?!) i finally remember that i'm a
contestant in the "how far have you traveled for an ig concert?" :-)  i flew
to seattle from boston for their performance at bumbershoot in, oh, sept.
'91? (may have been '92) (can anyone out there help me with the date?) (even
better, anyone have a boot of that show? :-)  so, 3000 miles, give or take a
few.  well, i was there to see friends and the sights, but seeing them was
truly the highlight of the trip.  of course. :-)

-joan  (totally jealous of news from no ... was anyone able to tape?  any of
the great banjo-, mandolin- and bass-playing pictures going to appear on the
web?)

                      joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
            harvard university library preservation office
"instead of loving your enemies,treat your friends a little better."
                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)

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on mon, 6 may 1996, joan ferguson wrote:

>
> -joan  (totally jealous of news from no ... was anyone able to tape?  any of
> the great banjo-, mandolin- and bass-playing pictures going to appear on the
> web?)

yes.   i have already found the bass playing one and a photo of a more
"standard" setup with acoustic guitars, but give me a couple of days and
it'll be on my indigo index web page - see the url below.

mat

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> > there were people at the airport with luggage no bigger than my
> > back pack.. i was thinking ...man...how do they do that ????
>
> make it your goal to one day board a plane knowing that the only
> luggage you have to worry about is the bag you're carrying on!!!


doing this was a very major turning point for me...  backpacking around
europe for a month with only as much stuff as fit in my pack, i realized
how extremely unimportant stuff really is.  people are important.
experiences are important.  understanding is important.  loving is
important.  but wow, i can be so-o-o-o happy with nothing more than a few
changes of clothes, a handful of tapes, a camera and a journal...

if i have good friends and can borrow a guitar, that is... =)

peace stuck to you like the stuff on the bottom of the pan that won't
scrape off no matter what you do to it,

scot

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on mon, 6 may 1996, karen robinson wrote:

> guitar prowess is enviable.  wow.  she said the igs call her the matriarch
> and she calls them the gifted something (my memory) whippersnappers.

gifted young whippersnappers (i think)- and they are so gifted!

>         but _emily_ played a new song of hers.  solo, on a banjo.  yes, a
> banjo.  and it was fantastic - as always.  and amy played the four new songs
> she had played on thursday.  i know they opened with thin line, sang crazy
> game, three hits, galileo, wood song, wild horses (with joan baez and
> michelle malone), closer to fine, the new songs, and closed with don't think
> twice and finlandia (with joan baez).  the show was great - like the first
> sip of water after being thirsty for what seemed eons.

i haven't been on the list for awhile (schoolwork being my laughable
excuse), but after the no concert i had to say how wonderful it was to see
them again.  i only saw the may 4th concert, and so far it is definitely
the highlight of my year.  it seemed to me like they talked to the
audience more than they usually do which of course was great.  the
highlight (although i'm partial) had to be  emily's "he's so f'ing
beautiful."  and, did anyone actually see them on bourbon street (where
amy said they- or at least she- had been the night before)?  anyway, i
only counted three new amy songs so you can tell me which one i'm missing
or maybe i'm combing two into one in my memory (my brain was definitely
not functioning well during the concert).  i wrote down the songs i could
remember after the concert so the setlist was something like

thin line
wood song
this train revised
don't give that girl a gun
power of two
nashville
anorexia/chiapas song
get out the map
least complicated
crazy game
closer to fine
shame on you song
tried to be true
galileo
don't think twice it's alright (w/ joan baez)
wild horses (w/ joan baez and michelle malone)
finlandia (w/ joan baez)

i'm not sure about some of the names of the songs (obviously amy didn't
come up with the title anorexia/chiapas song- that's all me), and i don't
remember them playing three hits.  someone let me know what i missed...
as for thier wardrobe- i didn't have the greatest seats, but emily was in
all black, and amy was wearing jeans and a striped shirt (which she later
took off and was wearing a black t-shirt with something on it that i
couldn't see).  i'm sure most of you don't care about what they were
wearing, but for those of you who do- there you go.  anyway, it was really
and amazing concert, although i guess if i had to complain about something
it would be that they only played two songs from rop.  but four new
songs!!!  did anyone manage to get a boot of the concert?  i'd be indebted
forever...

looking forward to newport, jenn

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yeah but the question drowns in its futility and even i have got to laugh
at me cause no one gets to miss the storm of what will be just holding on
for the ride -emily saliers

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subject:      from miranda no!!!
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        if it wasn't for my 9:30,  10:30,and 11:30 classes today, i would
have  posted a lot earlier.  i swear, i've never been so excited to read
my e-mail bee-fo!
        for all of you that were at no, i am so glad that i went.  i will
no longer be afraid to e-mail the list, because at least some people will
understand my sarcasm (cocky?/freaky?) side!

ha!

        anyway, i got a set list from saturday, so here goes for those of
you that want it...

thin line
wood song
this train
p02
don't give that girl a gun (amy)(my new favorite song and claire's too)
least complicated
nashville
get out the map (new by emily, only she played, and a banjo!!)
chiapas bound (new by amy) ----but just wait till you hear the last line!
closer to fine
shame on you (new by amy, and possibly their new album title) whoo!
crazy game
(then they were gonna play southland but didn't for some reason)
tried to be true
galileo

encore:

don't think twice, with none other than joan baez and her son
wild horses, with none other than michelle malone and joan baez & her son
finlandia

btw michael lorant was there both shows along with his finance, sheila,
and he played either drums, percussion, whistle, or clarinet in addition
to singing backup.  it was a good show but the crowd kinda sucked besides
the true fans, ofcourse.  i'll let someone else tell you about that...
carolyn???


i want to tell more, but for now, i'd better go.

i love  you guys....

(hey sha-ron!!!!!)
(hey kristal!!)


later,

miranda

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subject:      moo

eric, nice butt.

if any of you indigonuts want to buy a copy of strange fire, i still have
8 friggin copies left.

like, people at the show had no clue!!

cheers,

miranda


(howdy! cylinda, sharon, kristal, eric, claire (my new fwend!), kristina)

did i mention that academia really licks it sometimes??

:)

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subject:      jazzfest '96 - part deux and an "amy sighting"

ok.  well, i wasn't recognized as a fellow moo-er ( even though i was
wearing my moo shirt), so i wasn't "invited"  <sniff sniff> to the front /
center.  i was just off to the left about 15 people back getting stoned as
the folks around me were smoking grass!! yuck !

i wasn't quite into the festival itself, but the concert was kick ass.  it
seemed that their setup guy wasn't that good.  when emily was getting ready
to do her solo, there must of been something wrong with her banjo, because
she never did end up doing that song at the festival, and amy jumped in to
do her solo while emily was talking to the stage hand.  too bad, i would of
enjoyed hearing that song twice.  at one point, my (very tall) husband
turned around and said that the crowd (all standing) went back about 1/4
mile.   what a crowd!  a beautiful day too...sunny and warm.  it was so
nice to see them - my first time <sigh>. it was

on saturday - - it happened.  i saw "her" !!!!  my husband and i were
walking down a alley when i looked at the 3 people walking the other way.
i looked at a dark haired women that looked all too familiar.  it was her -
- amy !! my first time seeing an idol of mine - - i didn't know what to do.
i looked away thinking "oh my, i feel faint".  as i was telling my hubby
that it was amy, i saw her stretch out her arm to either wave at me or
point to the indigo girls t-shirt i was wearing (she was probably thinking
"oh, another one").  i looked back at her and waved and said "hi".  she
waved back at me.  at me.  little ol' me.  i feel faint again.  i was so in
shock.

another sighting...friday we were endless walking around the french quarter,
when we looked up at one of the apartments and we swear we saw michael
lorent.  my hubby yelled up to him, but the guy said he wasn't michael
lorent.  he looked just like him, then when we saw him again at the
saturday concert - - we knew it was him - it just had to be.  <sigh>  ( hey,
he's cute.  don'tcha think? )

saturdays show was...well..orgasmic.  ( hey sorry, if i had to choose one
word, that's the word i'd use .. )  everyone sounded great.  it was a
blast.  that's where i was able to meet some of you and sign the banner.
did that banner ever get to a & e??  our seats weren't that great, but -
like everyone else - moved closer (5th row / seats 1 &2).  the guards had
their hands full as many got up to dance.  as the night dragged on more and
more people got drunk - and that was a show in itself.  but the show was
great - especially the encore which brought michelle malone and joan baez
onto the stage.  i must admit, i've never attended a show that lasted 5
hours !!  it was great.

for those of you that missed it, it was a great set of concerts - but when
they go to newport and mn (anyone have those dates yet?? ) a & e will put
on just as good a show - if not better.  just think of all the $$ you saved
and the studying you got done.

it was nice meeting those of you i did catch.  wish we could have talked
longer.  for those of you that are going to newport - enjoy.

moo,
- jen hall

p.s.  now as i see some of the no-goers e-mails, i feel so lonely <sniff>.
all you have new friends, and i really didn't get to know anyone <sniff>.
oh well,  next time i guess.

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thanks, eric!

we made it home okay, and for some strange reason i slept for 15 hours.
hmm, i wonder how that happened.  so for all of you who ever wondered what
it is like to be in the front row, well it's pretty cool!  but you can't
hear very well. (let's see....get sweated on by amy/ hear the concert.)
i think the sweat wins!  okay, if someone wants pictures, we may have
some sucky ones but i won't know until tuesday.

later!

m

on mon, 6 may 1996 nlyng@prolog.net wrote:

> hey all....hope ya made it home okay!
>
> on fri, 3 may 1996, bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
> >i want to make sure that the tickets are as good as i think they are.
> >they are orch l - row 10 - seats 1-3
>
> yeah....those seats *were* good.......until the ones closer to fine became
> available!  ;)
>
> missin' my new family....yes...and even the chaos that reigned...
> (where we eatin' again? ;)
>
> :)
> eric
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subject:      no tape?

has anyone brought up the subject of if anyone taped this show yet?  i'm
sure half the list if not all the list would die for that tape...can we do a
tape tree for it?

k

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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 15:46:06 -0700
reply-to:     carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: moo
x-to:         miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ptx.3.92a.960506135405.6458b-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>

hi, it's me again..

i'm writing from carolyn's house.

i meant to say, "blood and fire", not "strange fire".
sorry for any confusion.

lots 'o love 'yall

miranda

on mon, 6 may 1996, miranda detore wrote:

> eric, nice butt.
>
> if any of you indigonuts want to buy a copy of strange fire, i still have
> 8 friggin copies left.
>
> like, people at the show had no clue!!
>
> cheers,
>
> miranda
>
>
> (howdy! cylinda, sharon, kristal, eric, claire (my new fwend!), kristina)
>
> did i mention that academia really licks it sometimes??
>
> :)
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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 16:14:38 -0700
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subject:      no experience report
x-to:         miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.ptx.3.92a.960506135405.6458b-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>

miranda, you are a nut, but the best kind. :) i wanted to say that the cd
boot (blood and fire) that miranda is selling is totally worth it. i am
really picky about the boots i buy and i have listened to 3 or 4 ig cd
boots at a local store and decided not to buy them cause the sound wasnt
so great or the setlist was very close to songs on 1200c. anyway, i listed
to b&f and by the 2nd song i knew i would buy it. it's totally worth the
$25 if you're into that sort of thing. :) miranda's email address is
inxsive@u.washington.edu

i sent a long long email to my best friend in california about the show.
i'll use it as a basis to write something for you guys which i will post
later this week. i left out bits i knew he wouldnt be interested in but
you guys would like. it was an unreal experience, i am still floating. i
will try to write something intelligent and post it on my webpage so those
of you who want to read a long-winded rambling account of everything that
happened can do so. walked right past emily on friday, just about died.
didnt have the presence of mind to even say "hi" -- was in shock. :)

the new songs all rock, i esp. like "chiapas bound" and "shame on you" (2
of the 4 amy songs we heard) and emily's "get out the map." em on the
banjo, woo!

got a pick from the thursday show (thanks cylinda!) and a setlist from
saturday. joan baez's son gabriel threw it out to me -- i was down in the
front and saw him so i shouted out "could i have a setlist please!!!" and
he smiled at me and walked away. i thought d'oh :( and was prepared to
wait for jimmy to walk back out and shout out to him. 30 seconds later
gabriel walks back out with a folded piece of paper and tossed it to me
from over the pit. perfect throw (and catch hehe. if i had dropped it then
it would have ended up in the pit and i know those $%^&&$%^& guards
wouldnt have handed it to me). :)

i dont want to babble. i wish y'all could have been there. i got a lot of
video of the experience (sorry nothing of a or e) and i will make a music
video set to some ig tunes when i have time in the upcoming months.
hopefully i will be able to get everyone on the vid so you can send me a
blank tape and return postage and i'll copy it for you. no advance orders
*grin* i'll let y'all know when it's ready.

the best thing about the trip (other than screaming "amy!!!" 500 times sat
night from the 18th row and knowing she couldnt hear me but damn it felt
good) was meeting all you wonderful beautiful people. what incredible
memories. you went beyond every expectation i could have had for relative
strangers meeting and meshing. (btw i tried to only scream like that when
everyone else was yelling cause i didnt want to hear myself on every
bootleg making a complete fool of myself).

oh another personal memory, no igc. joan baez was rattling off the names
of the women who sang with her on ring them bells and she forgot someone.
she knew she did so she asked "who did i forget??" and i shouted out
"dar!!!!" cause the one person she didnt mention was dar williams. oh, i
feel so special. :) baez rocked, she made a lot of new fans that night,
which i am really happy about. :)

needless to say, the girls rocked. they were beautiful, both their
presence and their voices. i don't regret a penny i spent (a whole lotta
pennies). i'd do it all over again in a heartbeat. this could get
addictive (comment: it went way past addiction a long time ago!) ;)

kristina ("from bellingham washington, right by the canadian border" --
think i said that a million times last week cause everyone was asking
where we all were from).

will post more later... i am still floating. think i said that already. :)
oh miranda, i have eric's butt on video. woo woo ;) sorry eric, not
intentional. you turned around :)

kristina

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on mon, 6 may 1996, miranda detore wrote:

> eric, nice butt.
>
> if any of you indigonuts want to buy a copy of strange fire, i still have
> 8 friggin copies left.
>
> like, people at the show had no clue!!
>
> cheers,
>
> miranda
>
>
> (howdy! cylinda, sharon, kristal, eric, claire (my new fwend!), kristina)
>
> did i mention that academia really licks it sometimes??
>
> :)
>
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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 18:58:20 -0500
reply-to:     cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      more about no

howdy all.....

i still can't belive that less than 48 hours ago i was getting ready to see
ig for the second time in two days...too cool.  i haven't nearly recovered
yet, and i think my finals will probably reflect that, but who cares, cause
they're over now and i got lots o' memories and a few souveniers (heh heh
heh......a set of used strings i _believe_ are emily's...at least hope are
emily's, but their definately one of the gils......heh heh heh......ahem,
excuse me, didn't mean to go on there...)

i'm trying to think what else hasn't been said that y'all might be
interested in.  all of the new songs just totally rock.  amy's are
great.....sometimes i have a hard time getting into amy's songs right away,
but not with these.  instantaneous love of every single one of them, it was.
and emily's...well, it's emily with a banjo, how can you go wrong?? :)
they're just so great.  the new songs.....i've been listening to them for
ever since i got back and i can't stop thinking how great they are.  they've
been in my head through my finals all day long....i kept trying to work in
the line "don't give the girl a gun" into my victorian lit essay, but
somehow i couldn't manage it :)

oops.  did i give away that i have a tape of the show up there??
hmmm...okay, yes i do have a tape of the show.  and since my semester's
basically over and i'll be really bored the rest of the summer here in
texas, i'm willing to make copies or set up a tape tree or
whatever........but before you send requests or anything, please wait a bit.
cause there may just be a better tape of the show out there that may be
offered up later.  i know several people booted it.  but if no better copies
are offered up within a reasonable amount of time, i'll come back with my
offer for those of you who just have to hear it and don't care about
quality......so don't worry y'all, everyone who wants to hear the show
should be able to, if you just give us some time to catch our breath from
all that sleeping we didn't do.....

wish you all could have been there, it was just too cool.  this list is just
full of great people....it's just cool.  sorry i can't be more eloquent, i
just spent 4 hours writing essays.  hi to all you n.o. folk, you know who
you are, too many to name...i miss y'all!!!  reunion at newport!!!!!

oh and before i go, i want to add my vote for "blood and fire" as one of the
absolute best boots i've ever heard.  buy it buy it buy it.  if miranda's
got any copies left....she probably won't for long.  one more time--buy it.
enough from me.....i'll let someone else take over now.

mooin' memoires

cylinda

                "anyone can start a conflict, it's harder yet
                  to disregard it, i'd rather see the world
                 from another angle, we are everyday angels"
                                              -- jewel

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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 20:29:56 -0400
reply-to:     nlyng@prolog.net
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from:         nlyng@prolog.net
subject:      amy's new songs
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.93.960506130853.11039b-100000@amy7.stanford.edu>

hey,

on mon, 6 may 1996, jenn lerner <jlerner@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>anyway, i only counted three new amy songs so you can tell me which one i'm
>missing

i already disputed this point with others, but mark my words.....
'blood quantum' will be the your favorite song on the new release (whenever
*that* might be :(

not even joe and his collection of superheroes are gonna change my mind!

;)
eric

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subject:      who whistles?

hey y'all!
        welcome back to those of you who traveled to n.o., and i have a random
question inspired by a friend.  who whistles on 'closer to fine'?  my memory
fails me, so i hope one of you can help, the question is irking me...

thanks!
happy day,
jennie

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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 20:33:21 -0500
reply-to:     cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
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from:         cylinda parga <ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu>
subject:      one more n.o. detail

hey y'all.....

i just thought of one more detail to throw in for those of you who like this
kinda stuff.  during "southland in the springtime" at the jazz fest emily
changed the words the last time through the chorus to "when god made me born
a yankee _she_ was teasing"....needless to say the crowd went wild.  cool.

okay, i really gotta get some sleep now.  bye!


cylinda

                "anyone can start a conflict, it's harder yet
                  to disregard it, i'd rather see the world
                 from another angle, we are everyday angels"
                                              -- jewel

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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 18:27:07 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      shame on you

hey all... just a quick question to those lucky no goers... the new a song,
shame on you... is it the one that played very briefly as one of the songs
being listened to in the van, during the road trip on the movie bots??? i
somehow doubt it, because it didn't sound very ig... but, since the girls
were featured in a big way on the bots sound track, i just hadda' ask...
thanks...
peace... kim.
<kim fischer>
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with a warm type of joy - kim does life.
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subject:      re: jazzfest 96

in a message dated 96-05-06 16:53:16 edt,jenn writes:

>and amy was wearing jeans and a striped shirt (which she later
>took off and was wearing a black t-shirt with something on it that i
>couldn't see).

american indian movement
free leonard peltier

:)claire (a charter member of the "eric's butt" fan club)

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from:         linda perrine <lap@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      it's a bass!

yes, amy introduced emily as playing the bass on one of amy's new songs at
both shows in new orleans.  i was there and it was worth every penny (more
like $20 bills) that i spent to get there and back to california!   also,
emily has a new song she does on a banjo and amy played a mandolin on
closer to fine.   they also had michael lorant do an improv (or so it
sounded) verse of crazy game on clarinet that was really great.  they
said they were all spending time learning new instruments and apoligized
for their
rustiness several times in both shows since they had not played in 8 months.

whoeverwas in charge of the mixing board could have used more practice.
they had a hard time in both shows of getting the guitars properly sounded
as well as the mikes.  amy was constantly giving them cues on what to do
with either the mike or the guitar sound level.

but both shows were great and the one on saturday went for 2 hours from midnight
to 2 am!  they both seemed to be having a great time experimenting on their new
stuff and getting familiar with the old stuff again.

the girl in the pictures on the web site was introduced as sheila
(something??), so its
not sara lee.  not sure how long she's been with them, but she played the
bass, electric guitar and electric violin so she filled in for a number of
people!

linda

linda perrine
lap@ix.netcom.com

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date:         mon, 6 may 1996 19:15:37 -0700
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subject:      n.o. pictures!

hi y'all, just got back from the 1 hour photo lab. they turned out pretty
damn good! taken from the front row on thursday. i am going to get the
best ones scanned and put them on my homepage asap (by next week). i'll
let anyone order the ones they like and i'll re-print and mail them to
you if you pay for the printing and mailing. i'm not looking to make a
dime, just get pics out to those of you who werent there or didnt have a
camera.

apologies to emily fans, i love emily but my camera really, really liked
amy. i had no control over it, i swear. ;) but i do have some of the both
of them.

if anyone has good pics from the saturday show i'd love to trade you for
some of the prints from this show.

i'm especially happy i got a cool shot of amy running both her hands
through her hair, i love it when she does that. :)

i dont think anyone posted what they were wearing at the shows, and i know
some of you are curious. stop reading now if you dont care.

thursday: emily was wearing light blue denim overalls (shorts, not
full-length) and a short-sleeved black t-shirt. she also wore sunglasses
the entire show.

amy was wearing a black t-shirt with green lantern (comic book dude) on
the front. her olive green pants were rolled to right below the knee. she
put sunglasses on for the encore.

saturday: emily was wearing comfy loose black pants and a comfy black
shirt that zipped up the front (if i recall correctly) that looked like it
was sold with the pants as a set.

amy was wearing her faded jeans with the strips of material sewn down the
sides. she had on a t-shirt (i cant remember what was printed on it) and
one of her shirts worn unbuttoned over that.

kristina

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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
subject:      original music: sigc

hi all,

a couple of months ago i came up with an idea to put together a tape
of original music written and performed by fans of indigo girls. i
am still working on this tape and am looking for people who write
music, lyrics, poems, or whatever type of audible art form you are
into.

my idea is to compile about 10 to 15 minutes worth of material from
each participant onto one or two tapes and then ditsribute it to
those who participated and anyone else interested.

i just think it would be really interesting to findo out what other
indigo girls fans are creating.

so, if you are interested in participating, please e-mail me and i
will send you some info.


peace y'all
'
'
dan perkins
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tour guide to the obvious
'
'
"their gonna give me a dna transplant
their gonna re arrange my molecules
some natuaral laws will have to bend
to get me from the shallow end of the
gene pool"
   -emily kaitz

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date:         tue, 7 may 1996 13:24:22 "est
reply-to:     jamie riches <riches@physics.uq.oz.au>
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from:         jamie riches <riches@physics.uq.oz.au>
subject:      message for shelley paddy

shelley,
        its jamie here. i can't get any email messages through to you at your
old address. could you send me another message with your email address and maybe
some other way to get in touch? thanks.
                                        jamie

p.s. apologies to the rest of the mailing list for the wasted bandwidth (but at
least i don't have a sixteen line .sig file :)

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subject:      mention of "flunkie" @ no?

i've been reading all the great posts of those lucky folks who got to go to
no...
in several posts it is mentioned that the a & e were accompanied by michael
lorrent.
and linda wrote...

>the girl in the pictures on the web site was introduced as sheila
>(something??), so its
>not sara lee.  not sure how long she's been with them, but she played the
>bass, electric guitar and electric violin so she filled in for a number of
>people!

would that be sheila doyle?  when i saw amy play at eddie's attic in atlanta
a couple of weeks ago, the two people that played with her were michael and
sheila.  together they called themselves "flunkie".
was there any mention of this during either show?
just curious...
~~robin

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