lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-05c

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date:         mon, 13 may 1996 22:08:41 -0600
reply-to:     sunny <sun@swcp.com>
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from:         sunny <sun@swcp.com>
subject:      answer to the joke

>"why did the indigo girl cross the road?"

"to get to the chicken, man".

--sunny :)

amy "i think i broke a few strings on my guitar"

emily "you're a brute"

from davidson 2/26/90

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 00:19:47 -0400
reply-to:     "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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from:         "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: you heard it here first

>at 02:51 pm 5/13/96 edt, loorinda wrote:
>
>>and finally...we've discussed light bulbs, so the next obvious question is
>>"why did the indigo girl cross the road?"
>because there was a place that she could walk across with five steps down..
to get closer to fine
to get to the land of canaan
to walk away
cuz it was a long road and she needed to be forgiven
kirsten

"how many republicans does it take to change a light bulb?"
"none -- republicans are always in the dark"
"the light bulb doesn't need to be changed -- it's fine the way it is"

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kirsten chevalier*kirsten@andy.wellesley.edu*http://wilbur.wellesley.edu/n-z/
t1kchevalier/page.html*"he never did marry or see a b-grade movie/he graded my
performance, said he could see through me/i spent four years prostrate to the
higher mind, got my paper, and i was free" -- emily saliers

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 01:07:03 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      eating crow...

ok, time for joan to eat crow now...
a kind soul just e-mailed me a news story (and i also just heard about it on cnn),
that president clinton came out formally today (no pun intended) against
same-sex marriages, saying that they weaken the family.  this is just wonderful
news coming from our "friend" bill, isn't it?  i'm hoping that he's just playing
along with this cause it's an election year and will change his position after
he wins the election (which i'm confident he will- win the election, that is).
i don't like what he's said, but he's the best we've got right now.  (*sigh*)

peace,

joan :)

btw, in my previous post about this topic, i was being facetious, not naive...
i know that the republicans want (always have and always will) to let big big
business take care of big business, etc. etc.

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 01:18:38 -0400
reply-to:     jean bardin <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
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from:         jean bardin <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject:      why did the indigo girl cross the road?

well, it seems like a chickenman reference is required, so here
goes:
so she wouldn't have to look at the prarie dogs and the rabbit.

i know, it's a little(or maybe a lot) sick, but it's late and
i'm tired.

-jean
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hey all-

i thought this was pretty funny and then i realized it even has some minute
ig content! feel free to exercise your delete button :)

-bon

forwarded message follows:
>>
>>
>>why do they call it a tv set if you only get one?
>>
>>why does the teflon stick to the pan?
>>
>>why do they call them apartments when they're all stuck together?
>>
>>why does a cowboy need two spurs - if one side of the horse goes so
>>does the other.
>>
>>if "con" is the opposite of "pro", then congress is the opposite of progress.
>>
>>why do they call a sculpture a bust when it stops just before the part
>>it would be named after?
>>
>>why isn't there a knob on a tv set so we could turn up the intelligence?
>>there's a brightness knob but it doesn't work.
>>
>>if our knees were bent the other way, what would a chair look like?
>>
>>why do both our feet point in the same direction? if our feet were a
>>christmas tree stand, that tree would be on the floor.
>>
>>why is the official car of the us ski team a subaru?
>>
>>why does the word "one" start with an "o" and the word "two" contain
>>a "w"? did the "w" from "one" fall down to "two"?
>>
>>why is the word "little" twice as big as the word "big"?
>>
>>why does sour cream have an expiration date?
>>
>>if yogurt goes bad, how can you tell?
>>
>>have you ever seen blue food? (blueberries are purple)
**i've heard it, does that count? ;) **

>>
>>if a hair from your head falls out, do you ever wonder what held it in
>>yesterday?
>>
>>what is the purpose of a human appendix?
>>
>>do mosquitoes serve any useful purpose?
>>
>>if milk is only 2%, what's in the other 98%?
>>
>>why is the official sponsor of the us olympic team mcdonald's?
>>
>>why do they call golf clubs drivers if they just sit in the back of the cart?
>>
>>if i say "i always lie", am i lying?
>>
>>do all the horses drown during a game of water polo?
>>
>>why do they call it pool if there's no water on the table?
>>
>>at a baseball game, why do they call them the stands if everyone is
>>sitting down?
>>
>>does president clinton get to have veteran's day off?
>>
>>why is the definition of the word "dictionary" in a dictionary? don't
>>they know what they're reading?
>>
>>why doesn't super glue stick to the bottle?
>>
>>why are hot dogs sold in 10-packs and buns sold in 8-packs?
>>
>>

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in a message dated 96-05-13 20:05:56 edt, anna writes:

> ms. saliers adds, "we try not to talk about the cats when we're gone."

is that kind of like 'the child" in "who's afraid of virginia woolfe" ?

binky

"i told you never to talk about the cat..er..child !!!!!!!!"
liz taylor (really !;)

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 16:54:50 +0800
reply-to:     mark tovey <markt@iinet.net.au>
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from:         mark tovey <markt@iinet.net.au>
subject:      re: you heard it here first

>
>and finally...we've discussed light bulbs, so the next obvious question is:
>"why did the indigo girl cross the road?"
>
>

ummmmm....because there was a dead dog on the highway??......hmmmmm

peace

mark t.

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 05:20:58 edt
reply-to:     gail_anthony@abtex#u#north#u#novell.ccmail.compuserve.com
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from:         gail_anthony@abtex#u#north#u#novell.ccmail.compuserve.com
subject:      newport folk festival

hi peeps,

     is anything being organised for the newport folk festival ala the 'big
     trip' to n.o. ??  i would be eternally grateful if you could let me
     know cos the logistics of getting there from here (scotland - hey
     shades of arkansas traveler) are pretty hugh and if i am going to make
     it over i'll have to start organising everything now (well, at least i
     remembered to renew my passport...!).

any way, i would much rather be in a motel/hotel populated by ig fans
than in a place all on my own <sob>.

toodles

gail

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 11:07:37 +0100
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: utah and other things...
x-to:         "lisa lewis (excell data corp)" <v-lisal@microsoft.com>
in-reply-to:  <c=us%a=_%p=msft%l=red-09-msg-960514001354z-24910@tide21.microsoft.com>

on mon, 13 may 1996, lisa lewis (excell data corp) wrote:

> greeting all,
>
> delurking for a few moments...in response to some of the utah comments i
> wanted to try and bring some insight to the mormon culture and
> teachings. here is a web site that has reprinted some specific teachings
> >of the mormon church... they actually teach this stuff.
> http://www.paranoia.com/~fraterk/stopit.html my best revenge is that i
> am a very happy lesbian and don't have any issues about my sexuality.

i agree that the stopit page is freaky but the web site has nothing to do
with the mormon church, in fact the owners appear to be taking the mickey out
of the mormons. the mormon church is so vast that it be far beyond using
someone else's web server which this person is doing. have you seen the bit
at the bottom?

<a href="ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ea/earl/worldwidewank.html>back to the
stuck-together
web pages

somehow i doubt you'd see this at the bottom of a mormon web page!

mat

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>>
>>and finally...we've discussed light bulbs, so the next obvious question is:
>>"why did the indigo girl cross the road?"

to get away from the median cats....
they were growling at me!!!!!!!!

another pointless post brought to you by
r
i
c
k
a flame-free joe.
*i can't think of a quote. my vacation's over & i'm going back to work after
3 weeks dammit!*
>>
>
>

why did the indigo girl cross the road?

it was the least complicated way to get to the other side.

~~robin

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 08:40:10 est
reply-to:     anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
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comments:     resent-from: anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
comments:     originally-from: mbutter@mibor.net (mark butterfield)
from:         anna whipkey <whipkey@vm.cc.purdue.edu>
subject:      nigc cornfest 96

thought you fellow midwest types might be interested in the following
music festival information. carrie newcomer, kristen hall barbara
kessler, cosy sheridan, and others are schedueled to perform.
oh... by the way its in indianapolis, in at the southeastway park,
july 13-14, 1996

(there's more than corn in indiana)
anna whipkey@vm.cc.purdue

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hello anna.

i appreciate your interest in "cornstock 96". my home page of the event is
http://www.nitemusic.com/nm/index.html

this event will have 15 of the top acoustic singer songwriters in the
country and it is a 2 day event. ticket info is on the home page. any other
questions...just let me know. thank you.

mark butterfield

at 01:07 am 5/14/96 edt, joan wrote:
>a kind soul just e-mailed me a news story (and i also just heard about it
on cnn),
>that president clinton came out formally today (no pun intended) against
>same-sex marriages, saying that they weaken the family.
without knowing a thing about american politics, but being a genuine
bonafied member of the human race ( though at times i'm even ashamed to
admit that )...my response to this comment is: who is the person ( and who
delivered that person "the power to interpret calvary?" ) that actually sits
down and defines words like "family"????
i've seen some pretty odd combinations of people - not just same sex couples
- who are together because they love and care about each other and are
willing to commit to that. "family" ( though no one has delivered me any
power to interpret the word :- ) ) has nothing to do with who sleeps with
whom... it has everything to do with "belonging"... and everything to do
with commitment. how on earth could there be weakness in a nurturing and
loving environment that produces happy people who can actually give in a
positive way to the community they live in? same sex marriages do not weaken
families
( and therefor the community, locally + nationally, i take it )... a lack of
love, and a commitment only to one's self does.
anyhoo... that's my thought on it... feel free to flame me if'n i've somehow
taken a false step somewhere... i'm not afraid... i'm wearing my flame
retardent internet wear.
also... what song are we on??? i really love the "song a day" thread... are
we still looking at so???
peace all... kim.

<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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to all of you with this birthday:

just to let you know, my e-mail address is suzanne_dunne@baylor.edu

scott had the b in baylor capitalized and i know from experience that mail
addressed that would end up in cyberspace limbo. so, now that you have the
correct address, feel free to get in touch with me to request this cool bootleg!

suz

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 10:25:19 edt
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      a link to a future link (nff)

hi folks,

well its may 14-- the day of the press conference announcing
the nff line-up. unfortunately i'm in chile at the moment and
will have a hard time getting the info.

one thing i did find on my morning search, ben & jerry's homepage
has a place holder for a link to nff and claim they will "pass on the info
as soon as they have it" sooo... if you watch the b&j link, you'll be
the first to find out about the nff link.

ben & jerry's homepage is http://www.benjerry.com/indexg.html

have fun! i can't wait to see the lineup!

-- chris

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 11:20:01 -0400
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from:         "kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org" <kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org>
subject:      newport folk festival line up

fyi, they're not announcing the line up until 3:00 pm, est. the woman =
was very short with me and all i got out of her was that she's had over =
a 100 calls today asking for the line up, the line up will be in the =
paper tomorrow (doesn't do me much good since i don't live in newport), =
and that i could call and order tickets tomorrow from the festival =
office or from ticketmaster and at that time could find out the line up. =
basically, i think she was telling me not to call back later today.

if i find out anything else, i'll let everyone know.

kris

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 08:55:51 -0700
reply-to:     kelly anne ketter <smidge@netcom.industry.net>
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from:         kelly anne ketter <smidge@netcom.industry.net>
subject:      nigc  ?'s

i know all of you hate wasting bandwith, but does anybody know how to
fix the return address on the email using netcom netcruiser? mine is
stamping it with the wrong address therefore i cannot resubscribe to
the list....:( so if you know how to do this please email me at
smidge@ix.netcom.com not the address that shows up on this screen....
many thanks...
kelly ketter
formerly known as wuzupspecialk@mail.utexas.edu

at he included web site i just found confirmation that ig will be at the nff
on sun, aug 11, 1996.

trant

http://concerts.calendar.com/cgi-bin/event-search/concertserverinfo?performers=indigo%20girls

follow the to more information about the listed artists, venues and cities.

sun, aug 11, 1996
                            indigo girls
                            ft. adams state park /ben & jerry's new
                            newport, ri
                            acoustic, folk

please check with venues before making plans to attend listed events. while
we believe the data in the database was correct when submitted, cancellations
and other changes do not always reach us in time.

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 09:34:52 -0700
reply-to:     michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: eating crow...
x-to:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
in-reply-to:  <960514050703_103161.3515_ihe84-3@compuserve.com>

okay, re clinton:  this is a despicable action for him to oppose same-sex
marriages, especially after he applauded willie brown for joining a
bunch of couples in san francisco in a big civil ceremony.  that being
said:  i think he really does support same-sex marriages and is covering
his ass politically (as he is so wont to do).  after this year (and yes
he will win) he'll probably subtly renounce his renunciation (?) and back
gay marriages again.

personally, i am an unabashed clinton fan, but i do think the man can be
very indecisive and is too much of a poll-watcher. i think he should
take things a bit easier nowadays...dole just doesn't touch people and i
think clinton, apart from his usual effort, won't need to sweat it this
year.

awaiting flames,
mike

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 09:37:24 -0700
reply-to:     michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
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from:         michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com>
subject:      re: you heard it here first
x-to:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
in-reply-to:  <199605140153.saa04535@prcn.org>

here's a nice idea of old radio programs for a&e:

we the indigos
young dr. indigo
emily's other wife
one woman's indigo
just plain amy
indigo faces life
breakfast with emily
the green indigo
the life of amy

or how about a news program, with gabriel indigo??

--mike

i'll immediately apologize for taking up space.  i'd like to switch to digest
for the next 3 weeks that i'm gone.  i've seen this questioned asked several
times on the list but haven't seen a response posted.  so if you can
answer my questions (below) please e-mail me privately.  thanks for the
help.  i'm leaving on 5/17.

1. how do i switch to digest?
2. how do i get off digest when i get back?

thanks!!!!!!

-robyn
coop43@aol.com

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 11:38:24 mst
reply-to:     susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      screen saver up for grabs

hi y'all, hope all is well in indigofanland

i have two screen savers thanks to amy vorpagel... (smile, hi amy, me
waving)...both are from the "touch me fall" video. now as you know,
noone needs two identical screen savers, so i would like to trrade one with
someone for a boot or two that i don't have...or for you non-booters,
i would be willing to sell it...but i would much rather do the trade thing.

is anyone interested in getting one of these screen savers? email me
privately at smarine@cc.colorado.edu.

happy day-

susan
who admits she is waiting with baited breath for the new george michael
release...wow, that took sack to admit! :)

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
-emily saliers

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

well all, i am off for the summer. its been great being part of this list =
and=20
learning so much about the girls that i never knew. i don't have email at =
my=20
house, but hopefully i'll be back next fall!!

peace, hugs, and lots of ig,
nicole

thinking of a cool quote for my sig file...thinking..thinking...

how about:

"the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my life less ser=
iously...its only life after all!"--emily saliers

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 11:44:31 -0700
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      newport ff help!!!!

hi!  i heard a rumor that the tix were going on sale for this tomorrow but i
called ticketmonster and they said they didn't have anything on their
computers, etc.  does anyone have a better number i can use?  or was i
incorrect on the date and it's really june 15 they go on sale?!?  please
help, i must have these tickets as i'm giving them for a wedding present to
my best friends...thank you in advance! and please respond to my mailbox so
it doesn't clog the list!

k
kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 11:48:22 -0700
reply-to:     miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
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from:         miranda detore <inxsive@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: eating crow...
x-to:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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i have been thinking about how so many of the recent posts are nigc, and
to tell you all the truth, all the politics were getting rather annoying
and when i sign on to read my messages, i don't really care to read bout ah-nee
etc. anyway, this is one message i think we all need to respond to....b/c
it is very likely that billy will maintain the office of president of
these here "united" states.....

if anyone would like to send their opinion on same-sex marriages to billy,
the address is (i think) president@whitehouse.com.....

the more messages that are sent on this issue, the more aware he will be
that being against them (for the reasons he states) is wrong....

that's just my little opinion, but the line about them "weakening the
family" is bullshit!!!

later

miranda

on tue, 14 may 1996, joan morrison wrote:

> ok, time for joan to eat crow now...
> a kind soul just e-mailed me a news story (and i also just heard about it on cnn),
> that president clinton came out formally today (no pun intended) against
> same-sex marriages, saying that they weaken the family.  this is just wonderful
> news coming from our "friend" bill, isn't it?  i'm hoping that he's just playing
> along with this cause it's an election year and will change his position after
> he wins the election (which i'm confident he will- win the election, that is).
> i don't like what he's said, but he's the best we've got right now.  (*sigh*)
>
> peace,
>
> joan :)
>
> btw, in my previous post about this topic, i was being facetious, not naive...
> i know that the republicans want (always have and always will) to let big big
> business take care of big business, etc. etc.
>
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i'm there!

you guys wanna meet up?

on tue, 14 may 1996, trant batey wrote:

> at he included web site i just found confirmation that ig will be at the nff
> on sun, aug 11, 1996.
>
> trant
>
> http://concerts.calendar.com/cgi-bin/event-search/concertserverinfo?performers=indigo%20girls
>
> follow the  to more information about the listed artists, venues and cities.
>
> sun, aug 11, 1996
>                             indigo girls
>                             ft. adams state park /ben & jerry's new
>                             newport, ri
>                             acoustic, folk
>
>
>
> please check with venues before making plans to attend listed events. while
> we believe the data in the database was correct when submitted, cancellations
> and other changes do not always reach us in time.
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subject:      re: eating crow...
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hey guys,

just so you know, i have been forwarding messages like this to the
whitehouse in hopes that someone will get a clue. they say that every
message received represents 1500 people.

on tue, 14 may 1996, michael messner wrote:

> okay, re clinton:  this is a despicable action for him to oppose same-sex
> marriages, especially after he applauded willie brown for joining a
> bunch of couples in san francisco in a big civil ceremony.  that being
> said:  i think he really does support same-sex marriages and is covering
> his ass politically (as he is so wont to do).  after this year (and yes
> he will win) he'll probably subtly renounce his renunciation (?) and back
> gay marriages again.
>
> personally, i am an unabashed clinton fan, but i do think the man can be
> very indecisive and is too much of a poll-watcher.  i think he should
> take things a bit easier nowadays...dole just doesn't touch people and i
> think clinton, apart from his usual effort, won't need to sweat it this
> year.
>
> awaiting flames,
> mike
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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 12:15:31 -0700
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election year politics suck (not that politics in general don't...)
did anyone see molly ivins' column this week (seattle times on mondays,
could be other days other places)
in general, molly ivins is very cool--cynical and sarcastic, biting texas
wit, very smart. check her out, everyone.
peace out,
karey

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 12:15:16 -0700
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subject:      us presidential e-mail

it is actually:

president@whitehouse.gov

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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on tue, 14 may 1996, miranda detore wrote:

> the address is (i think) president@whitehouse.com.....

the address is president@whitehouse.gov

i will not be complacent. =)

peace

scot

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subject:      blood and fire...

hey kids...

i'm still waiting on a few of you who said that you wanted a copy of this
excellent boot. if i told you that i would save you a copy and you
haven't mailed a check yet, please do so, or i will be forced to make
these copies available to others.

thanks

bye now!

mowanda

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it's president@whitehouse.gov
i've written there about abortion issues before. you get an
"autoresponder" message, but only 1 per day.
peace out,
karey

okay, i am officially joining the ranks of those completely disgusted with
president clinton for flipflopping on such an important issue.  first the gas
tax, now this...
but, the point of this message: i just want to make sure nobody out there is
so disgusted that they've decided not to vote.  this is something i feel
really strongly about... i hate that clinton has "come out" (ha) against gay
marriages, but bob dole is by far the worser evil.  i still plan to vote for
clinton, even after this, mainly to keep dole out of the white house.
remember, if you don't vote you support the winner by default...
just my little public service message/ranting/total nigc...

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**            danced in the sand            **
**        i was aching with freedom         **
**            kissing the damned            **
** i said remember this as how it should be **
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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 12:44:13 -0700
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subject:      newport folk fest line up

i just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is a publicist.
she was at the press release conference....and away we go

friday night:  on a summer's night...formerly known as on a winter's
night:  patty larkin, cheryl wheeler, cliff eberhardt, and john gorka
8 pm, at the hotel viking, $20.  this will be hilarious..go if you can.

sat: joan armatrading, john hiatt, suzanne vega, ani difranco,
peter rowan, crucial country with jerry douglas and tony rice,
greg brown, nashville bluegrass band, new faces: martin sexton,
leslie smith

sun; indigo girls, bruce cockburn, michelle shocked, lisa loeb,
clarence "gatemouth" brown, maura o'connell, david wilcox, cordelia's
dad.

tickets are $55 for the weekend, or $33 per day in advance, $35
at the door (buy early!). kids under 12 are $15 per day.

you can send away for tix at:

        ben and jerry's festical--newport
        po box 1221
        newport, ri 02840

enclose a self addressed stamped envelope and $3 per order (not
ticket aka ticketmaster) for tix..usually these tix have
funky sparkled ink

ticekts also go one sale tomorrow through ticektmaster. usually the
2 days passes are only available until early to mid-july. i will check
and let everyone know.

i cant wait for this year's fest!

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subject:      re: screen saver up for grabs
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in a message dated 96-05-14 15:47:06 edt, smarine@cc.colorado.edu (susan
marine) writes:

>susan
>who admits she is waiting with baited breath for the new george michael
>release...wow, that took sack to admit! :)
>
>

yaay!! i knew i couldn't have been alone out here!!! i think it's out today,
isn't it?? :)

yet another pointless post brought to you by
r
i
c
k
*who just found out that speed 2 will be filming here in september & wonders
if keanu
will be needing an assistant, stand in, personal slave, or bed warmer?*

forgot to add....tehre is a web site up and active:

http://www.newportfolk.com

with all kinds of info...

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subject:      re: nigc - speaking of ani... seeking cd purchase advice

> > :) speaking as someone who asked the same question a month ago & is totally
> > thrilled that he did... i'd say just get one!!! :) right now the only one
> > i've got is not a pretty girl which is in my humble opinion the
> > shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > so don't pass go, don't pick up 200 dollars, just go get it!!!!! :)

i'm listening to that cd right now because i read so many ani quotes
on the list that i went out and bought it! it wasn't quite what i
expected, but i like it anyway. *confession* actually, i've
listened to ani more in the last two weeks than i have ig....

anna

please forgive me, oh fellow ig-listeners, for straying from the
fold... :)

"i am not a pretty girl. that is not what i do. i ain't no damsel
in distress, and i don't need to be rescued. so, put me down, punk.
wouldn't you prefer a maiden fair? isn't there a kitten stuck up
a tree somewhere?" --ani difranco

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 22:29:48 +0100
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hey :)

didn't see this answered, but then i was deleting at
90mph, so...

>it's got a song on it called heartbreak
>central. now that song isn't on my recently acquired color me grey.
>anyone know of this song?

heartache central time. good song :):)
is a cover version. can't remember who it's by, but
it's performed by amy ray and michelle mallone (i
believe...assuming you have the same track as i...
drum machine/piano/vox...) the collection of songs i
have it on is just called 'early recordings' and
isn't so good quality or anything...

@}--,-'---

from: cindy
ok i am now officially clueless. my desk is a mess and i can't find anything.
what were the dates of the newport folk festival?
thanks!

(ps...hi pooh)

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> ok i am now officially clueless. my desk is a mess and i can't find anything.
> what were the dates of the newport folk festival?
> thanks!

i should have included that...augsut 9-11, 1996 in newport, rhode island
:)

ok guys, i am now off the list.....:) and on vacation!!!!!
be back june 2nd.

be sure to check out my web page!
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm

let me know what you think! i will still have limited access to my e mail
through a friends computer in ca..so i will be reading my mail on occasion.
take care all!
rob
still no graphic for the shirts...sorry, i will put it on my page when it
becomes available.

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 18:19:25 -0400
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subject:      nigc: attention claire, miranda, kristina, & jennie

sorry to do this, but....hey, claire, miranda, kristina from bellingham,
& jennie from little rock!!

e-mail me (privately) your snail-mail addresses and i'll send you copies
of my n.o. photos that you are in. please use this address:
chousel@grove.ufl.edu
thanks! christine :)

i have read with interest the number of messages discussing utah, mormons and
gay clubs.

i am a texan born and raised.
i am an off-and-on utah resident for about 16 years.
i am a straight, single woman in my 30's.
i am a practicing mormon.
i am a huge ig fan.
i am a traveler and have experienced culture from all over the us and the
world and still consider myself all of the above.

it is possible to be all those things. i do not find them inconguous. if
there are honest questions about the state and its legislative decisions
(which, by the way, are actually separate issues from mormon beliefs), i
would be happy to answer them. e-mail me personally.

marian
marianash@aol.com

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what is your email address there gail? love to meet
up w/some ig folks down there. i live in the boston area.

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hi peeps,

any way, i would much rather be in a motel/hotel populated by ig fans
than in a place all on my own <sob>.

toodles

gail

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just thought i'd join in the general uproar about gay marriages

i have been yelling at my computer for 10 minutes, i will not subject you all
to my 4 letter words at prez bill...but he will be hearing from me

i will not be complacent

and i'm gonna go shine my life like a light at president.whitehouse.com

peace and equal rights with justice,

larissa

(just another tired san fran lesbian)

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 19:44:48 -0400
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subject:      joni mitchell/nanci griffith (nigc)

hi y'all--

i was just wondering if anyone had suggestions for me on jm cd's to buy.
i have _blue_--quite good, and was looking for ideas fo my next purchase.
also looking for suggestions on any ng cd's. _flyer_? _other voices,
other rooms_?

any input would be helpful.
thanks!!

jenifer
s013jem@discover.wright.edu

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 20:47:47 edt
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in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 14 may 1996 01:07:03 edt

unfortunately you had to learn the cold, hard truth.  neither republicans nor
democrats (at least the ones who hold public office) care about people.  they
only care about their political careers and will do whatever it takes and
hold whatever kind of opinion necessary to win elections.  most people in
washington, dc don't really care (either way) about the gay community, the
environment, the poor, or any other disenfranchised parties in the country
and throughout the world.  the reason they can get away with not caring is
that most of the rest of the people in this country and throughout the world
care even less.  bill clinton, bob dole, newt gingrich, etc. are just little
pawns in the multi-national, super-corporate game.  isn't it interesting that
"family values" became the buzzword shortly after the soviet union and its
associated totalitarian regimes fell and george bush failed in his attempt to
create a hubris-crazed geek like saddam hussein into the next hitler that the
powers at be decided to look inward for the new enemy.  before pat buchanan's
speech at the 1992 convention, there were always social conservatives who
thought that people needed to follow a strict moral code, but up until
recently, they were viewed as fringes and people to pay lip service to in
order to get their money.  the only reason that they are in vogue now is that
those who are involved in "stirring the pot", needed to find a new way to
keep the masses distracted and from being able to open their eyes and realize
that they are not getting their fair share of the wealth that exists in this
country.  there is enough money floating around in the various banks and
financial instutuions in this country to pay off all of the debts and
deficits, provide food, shelter, and health care to anyone who needs it,
rebuild the schools and pay teaches what they deserve, and basically provide
for the needs of all.  unfortunately, this does not happen because most
people only care about the issues that directly affect them and don't give a
shit about anyone else and their rights.  i lived in atlanta for three months
last year and hung out with a lot of gay men and women who were very
intellingent and active when it came to "their causes", but were some of the
most vicious and ignorant racists when it came time to talk about the poor,
and crime, and taxes.  this is not to say that they were any more racist and
ignorant than anybody else i met in atlanta, but i made the wrong assumption
to believe that anybody who is part of a disenfranchised group would be more
sensitive to the plight of others who are also disenfranchised, just
differently.  when i worked with single, teenage mothers who were on the
street because they had been beaten up by their boyfriends and kicked out of
their own homes and who would refuse to let a medical assistant touch them
because, "she was a lesbian and might have aids", i refrained from saying,
"maybe if you spent more time in the arms of a caring, loving woman, you
wouldn't be in the mess you are in", because i knew it was insensitive and at
the time chalked it up as ignorance and the lack of strong female role
models.  but i have realized that ignorance cannot be tolerated on any level
and from any person, no matter what their circumstances might be.  it is
ignorance that allows us to focus only on our needs, while ignoring others.
pride is important, whether it be gay pride, black pride, or anything else.
but i think it is during these times where we are exalting ourselves and
those within our respective communities, we should look around and see who is
left on the outside looking in.  this is the only way that we will be able to
protect ourselves from those who want to control us and take advantage of our
ignorance and insecurity and use it for their benefit.  the disenfranchised
are not the cause of the problem.  they are the victims of it.  the real
enemy (whoever that might be) is within our midst.  seek them out, hunt them
down, and eliminate them from our existence.

sorry for the sermon. have a nice day.

let it grow

bert

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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 17:43:38 edt
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subject:      [humor] aliens and weather balloons
x-to:         multiple recipients of list humor <humor@caligari.dartmouth.edu>

this one comes from stephen.  not initially of course it seems to originate
with columnist, dave barry (whos book you should buy so he does not sue me
for copyright infringement).  however, it may date back further than that.
the part about 50's tv seems reminiscent of an episode of steven spielberg's
_amazing_stories_.  we know that mr. spielberg has not done anything of his
own work since the flop with _1941_.  therefore the true origin is unknown.
prehaps the aliens can tell us.  the vocabulary word today is a submission by
robyn.

the truth is out there.

--------
the aliens are coming, the aliens are coming!
-dave barry

i don't want to alarm anybody, but there is an excellent chance that
the earth will be destroyed in the next several days.  congress is
thinking about eliminating a federal program under which scientists
broadcast signals to alien beings.  this would be a large mistake.
alien beings have nuclear blaster death cannons.  you cannot cut off
their federal programs as if they were merely poor people.

i realize some of you may not believe that alien beings exist.  but
how else can you explain the many unexplained phenomena that people
are always sighting, such as lightning and flying saucers?  oh, i
know the authorities claim these sightings are actually caused by
"weather balloons," but that is a bucket of manure if i ever heard
one.  (that's just a figure of speech, of course.  i realize manure
is silent.)

answer this question honestly: have you, or has any member of your
immediate family, ever seen a weather balloon? of course not.
nobody has.  yet if these "authorities" were telling the truth, the
skies over america would be dark with weather balloons.  commercial
aviation would be impossible.  nevertheless, the authorities trot
out this tired old explanation, or an even stupider one, every time
a flying saucer is sighted.

wake up, america!  there are no weather balloons!  those are alien
beings!  they are all around us!  i'm sure most of you have seen the
movie "e.t.", the story of an alien who almost dies when he falls
into the clutches of the american medical establishment but is saved
by pre-adolescent boys.  everybody believes the alien is a fake, a
triumph of special effects.  but watch the movie closely next time.
the alien is real.  the boys are fakes.  real pre-adolescent boys
would have beaten the alien to death with rocks.

yes, aliens exist and high government officials know they exist, but
they've been keeping this knowledge top secret. here is the untold
story:

years ago, when the alien-broadcast program began, government
scientists decided to broadcast a message that would be simple yet
convey a sense of love, universal peace and brotherhood: "have a
nice day." they broadcast this message over and over, day after
day, year after year, until one day they got an answer:

dear earth persons:

ok.  we are having a nice day.  we also have a number of extremely
sophisticated weapons, and unless you start broadcasting something
more interesting, we will reduce your planet to a very warm object
the size of a child's bowling ball.
                                                        regards,
                                                        the aliens

so the scientists, desperate for something that would interest the
aliens, broadcast an episode of "i love lucy", and the aliens loved
it.  they demanded more, and soon they were getting all three major
networks, and the earth was saved.  there is only one problem: the
aliens have terrible taste.  they love game shows, soap operas,
howard cosell and "dallas."  whenever a network tries to take one of
these shows off the air, the aliens threaten to vaporize the planet.

this is why you and all your friends think television is so awful.
it isn't designed to please you --it's designed to please creatures
from another galaxy.  you know the wisk commercial, the one with
ring around the collar, the one so spectacularly stupid that it
makes you wonder why anybody would dream of buying the product?
well, the aliens love that commercial.  we all owe a great debt of
gratitude to the people who make wisk.  they have not sold a single
bottle of wisk in 14 years, but they have saved the earth.

very few people know any of this.  needless to say, congress has no
idea what is going on.  most legislators are incapable of eating
breakfast without the help of several aides, so we can hardly expect
them to understand a serious threat from outer space.  but if they
go ahead with their plan to cancel the alien-broadcast program and
the aliens miss the next episode of "general hospital," what do you
think will happen?  think about it.  and have a nice day.
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        1. a formal ecclesiastical ban, curse, or excommunication.
        2. a vehement denunciation; curse.
        3. one that is cursed or damned.
        4. one that is greatly reviled or loathed.
         etymology:  late latin, a person cursed < greek anathema, an accursed
thing < anatithenai, to dedicate: ana-, up + tithenai, to put.
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date:         tue, 14 may 1996 20:00:33 mst
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subject:      ticketmaster-bation

hi all. i hope no one was offended by my title, but i feel like that's
exactly what i have been doing! noone at the ticketmaster place that's
selling tix for newport has clue when the tickets for ig on aug 11 go
on sale...i literally talked to 10 different agents, and a manager,
today with no luck.

i am going to call every day til i get an answer. i will post it to
the list when/if i do, but if anyone wants to join me in the calling fray,
the number is

(401) 331-2211

happy dialing...
frustratedly yours,
susan

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
-emily saliers

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subject:      down by the river, jcs, ejs, nff

hey now,

here's a couple of comments, questions, etc.

1) would anyone like the music for down by the river. i will post
it if you'd like.

2) is anyone in the nj area going to newport?

3) i got my jcs video and it's amazing! i can't believe how good it
is. it really exceeded my expectations.

4) does anyone have any ejs stuff they'd be willing to copy on tape
for me. i will supply the tapes of course.

well that's it.

gwen

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subject:      fan tours and other cheerful things

i'd like to start by apologizing in advance to those who feel that my recent
tirade was a little heavy-handed on the gay and lesbian community.  it wasn't
meant to be.  we are all guilty in one way or another of being short-sighted
and insensitive.  jews often speak out against anti-semitism, but ignore
their own racist tendencies.  white women activists are sometimes ignorant of
the needs of black women.  heck, it wasn't too long ago that the national
organization for women attempted to completely disassociate themselves from
the lesbian community.  i just hope what i said caused some of you to examine
yourselves and pick out some of the inconsistencies, contradictions, and
insensitivities that make up our lives.  i stress our, because i have to deal
with all of these things on a daily basis.  i think it is one of the many
things that make me the mixed-up, screwy person that i am.  think about it.
what kind of lunatic spends his free time organizing fan tours, traveling
around the world with complete strangers, just so he can see two women sing
and play the guitar?

speaking of fan tours...

i am in the process of making arrangements for a nff fan gathering.  i have
already booked a group of rooms at the best western in newport, but even with
the group discount, the price was still pretty steep ($160 per night/$40 per
person per night - minimum two night stay).  at this point, this is a
back-up.  i would like to get something around $100-120 per night/$25-30 per
person per night.  however, i would like to move on this asap.  thus if you
are interested in getting a room or space in a room, send me your money asap.
if i can get something cheaper, i will refund the difference.  to get
something cheaper, i will probably have to get something outside of
newport.  e-mail me if the price is right and you want to be as close
to the event as possible.  also, e-mail me if the price is prohibitive
and i will see if i can make multiple arrangements.  however, if that
becomes too complicated, i will go with the majority rule.  see what
democracy gets ya.  i will post my address at the end of this message.

additional important news!!!

i was in atlanta this past weekend and the birdies there were chirping
mighty loudly about amy & emily headlining the atlanta pride
festivities on june 30th, culminating a weekend of exciting stuff. i
am currently calling hotels, checking for group rates, and if enough
people express an interest in going to this, i will make the
arrangements for a weekend-long fan gathering in atlanta. e-mail me
asap about this, because time is running short.

i would like to finish by briefly covering a few important topics.

first, i have just finished cleaning up all of my e-mail that
accumulated while i was away, and everytime i read something from dana
about jenny or other people writing about the subject, i went numb and
then became angry at the chaotic world we live in.  i flew valujet
five times over a week without a hitch, but 100+ poor souls get on the
one flight that crashes into the everglades.  30 of us enjoy the
weekend of our lives while one carful nearly lose their lives.  it's
the kind of thing that makes me call in sick to work, close my shades,
and lie in bed all day, curled up in a fetal position, sucking my
thumb.  i spoke to someone in russell carter's office yesterday and
they told me that they did receive a fax about the incident, but
russell is currently away and nothing will be done about it until he
gets back.  i will be calling back at the end of the week and
hopefully will have more news about this.  i received and e-mail from
trant the other day, and him being the special kind of guy he is,
wants to buy the four of them airplane tickets to newport, concert
tickets, and hotel accomodations.  i was really blown away by this.
it is the kind of thing that uncurls me from my fetal position,
removes the thumb from my mouth, and helps me get through the day.
while i would like to see something like this done more collectively,
i would rather not be responsible for collecting donations.  i have no
problem with making the arrangements for their travel, etc., presuming
that they have the desire and ability to make the trip.  but i would
prefer it if someone else could collect the money.  if no one wants
this responsibility either, i will serve as the last resort.  ideally,
i would like to somehow arrange for the four of them to get backstage
to meet amy & emily in person, but that is far beyond the realm of my
powers.  the few times that i have met them have been the result of
total luck and/or russell carter's generosity.

second, i was able to visit russell carter's office last week and drop
off the banner and the map.  whether or not it gets to amy and emily
is anyone's guess.  i think the chances are very good, but i can't say
for sure.  russell wasn't in and i didn't speak to the person in his
office for very long.  let us hope.

finally, i wanted to thank those of you who participated in the new
orleans fan gathering.  so many people commended me on all of the good
work that i did making those arrangements, but when it comes down to
it, what i did pales in comparison to what all of you did.  you
trusted a complete stranger with your hard-earned money, traveled from
all parts of this country, and opened your hearts to one another,
bonded with a singular love for ig and their, but more importantly, a
love for yourselves and others and for life in general.  i am sure
that many of you wonder why i sign my posts let it grow.  i sign it
this way, because these are the words on the back of a t-shirt that
amy ray wore when her and emily opened for the grateful dead and there
is video footage in watershed that captures her wearing this shirt.
what is truly special to me about this shirt is that it was once on my
own back until the day i decided to take it off during a concert and
throw it onstage.  unfortunately, i forgot to to fix it and threw it
onstage inside out, so that amy was unable to show it to the crowd.
the amazing thing was that she saw enough value in the shirt, even
though it was slightly torn, stretched out, and completely soaked
through with sweat to take it home, wash it (good idea), and wear it.
i think the reason she did this was not because of the let it grow
that everyone saw on the video, but for the writing on the front of
the t-shirt, that was pretty much unreadable in the brief shot of her
playing with a dog backstage.  it is these words that truly describe
this community that we are all a part of and it is these words that i
will use to close this post and future posts.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

ps - sorry for the length of the past two posts; if you have read this
far, you really deserve to be commended. kiss kiss to all of you
sweetie darlings.

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subject:      nigc-- now

just to put a better face on the national organization for women --
although bertin is correct when he said that for a really brief period in
time now tried to dissociate itself from lesbianism -- it soon realized
that was a big mistake and now fully embraces and fights actively for gay
and lesbian rights.

--jessie

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subject:      i'm an idiot

only i could spend several hours typing the kind of inane drivel that was the
last two posts and still forget to include some very vital information.

my address!!!

for those of you who want to participate in the newport folk festival fan
gathering and the atlanta pride fan gathering (once details have been
posted), send your money to the following address:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

if you need more info, e-mail me or call me at (908)418-7115. i look forward
to talking to y'all.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      newport..anotehr addendum

1) i should have made clear that the friday night show is separate
so the weekend pass does not cover it. if you want to go, it is
an additional $20. bnelieve me, it was very well worth it. you
will split a gut laughing and hear some unbelievably good music.

2) ticektmaster....according to the press conference today, ticketrs
do go on sale tomorrow. ticketmaster should ahve them...while the ig day
does always sell out, it is not goign to sell out tomorrow.

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subject:      newport

anyone in columbia going to newport? (by car........or maybe willing to hitch
with me?)

oh yeah---i'm new to the list......nice to meet y'all =)

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subject:      one last thing!

for the newport folk festival fan gathering, i am going to try to arrange it
so that those who particpate, can get passes, which will allow them to enter
the concert area before the rest of the crowd.  anyone who has ever been to
the nff, knows why this would be extremely valuable.  there are two mad
dashes during the mornings of the two shows.  first from the gates at the
front of the park to the chutes at the entranceway to the concert area.
second, from the chutes to the concert area.  this is especially vicious and
competitive on the day of the ig show.  it is definitely dog eat dog and
survival of the fittest.  early entrance passes allow the bearer to avoid all
of that craziness and set up camp right in front of the stage.  i am not
guaranteeing that i will be able to obtain these passes, but i am going to
try.  i will post more about this once i have some more concrete information.
talk to y'all soon.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

happy birthday claudia!!!

"...but i took us for better and i took us for worse and don't you ever
forget it..."

mudster@eworld.com (his wife, claudia)
"power of two"
* :);)*

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subject:      lost message

my fourth message arrived after my third message, so i am going to report the
information that was enclosed, which was my mailing address and phone number.

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016
(908)418-7115

also, time is of the essence.  i need to get the money to the hotel by july
1st.  if i can make better arrangements with another hotel, i will but i
cannot guarantee it.  thus i need to receive all checks/money orders by june
15, which is only one month away, so everyone who is interested needs to act
quickly.  talk to y'all soon.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      newport

i mailed the list a little bit ago.....begging for company or a ride or a hitch
or lend me a horse......to newport.

i'm in columbia, sc. that's near atlanta, sorta.

anyone in my aura?

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subject:      a clarification

this is my last message of the evening.  i swear.  i should have been in bed
three hours ago.  i have to count books for eight straight hours tomorrow.
i think i am going to be sick tomorrow.  that would be a good thing.

anyway, i just wanted to clarify that the previously mentioned passes, if
obtained could only be used to gain early entrance.  i have already spoken to
russell carter's office about backstage passes and the answer was a firm, but
polite, no.  they said that there will be no aftershow passes issued until
the next tour.  that's all for now, hopefully.  time to go to sleep.  nitey
night.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!

does anybody here know how to make a sig file? i am getting really tired of
typing:

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

...again and again. bye. thud! (that was the sound of me collapsing and
hitting my head on the keyboard)

skrhgfsbdie ibeouhfg iufhgiurteg uhgibunsighfjhnkifjhbujhgsjhgsfhgsiunhsiuhb uhbsdhbsjmhbujhgjdhgvajhvgashgauhnviafaiurthgjdvajfhajdhvjdhfjdhfakjfhvakjdhfkajdhfsdvuhfcvhfcarehfo'dhdgvhoihdohfvoshvdhfkjhfdsodhowehfoldfhodsvodsvodfhdsoewhewfcnjhndnhldsahhoiadoliwrfrijgoldsjga'rih
iehg;lk;'lk';lf'gl'aelg
'e;gl

that was what my head typed. i hoped you all enjoyed it. have a good
night. :)

i've spent several weeks listening what everyone has to say about a
variety of subjects and have had hours of entertainment. but lately
i have been paying particular attention to the issue of same-sex
marriages. it seems to me that our government has a way of addressing
gay and lesbian issues for just enough time as to make thier opinions
known and then drop them like a hot cake.my partner and i live in a small
town in colorado now, but back in 1992 we lived in the denver area. at the
time the hot issue on the ballots was amendment 2. does anyone out there
remember that? right now it is still in the supreme court waiting a decision.
and then there was the military issue, as a onetime member of the armed
forces, i also had emotional ties to that too. i ask you, how many times do
you hear of these subjects on mainstream public communication systems?

its one thing to talk about it on the net, its another thing to go out and
do something about it. write your congressman or women and get some
action from them. if you don't know where to start, try the library, get their
addresses. you can find out how they feel about the issues by finding
out how they voted. remember, we are the ones who vote these people
into office. i know that some of you are still pretty young, no offense by
that but when you get out into the real world and find out that you might
loose your job or a place to live because you love "the wrong person"
these issues will become very important to you , if they aren't already.
i'll get off my soapbox now.

"it's hard to keep a straight relationship together.....
imagine being gay. it's a struggle to find a church,
state, or population that recognizes the validity of
a gay marriage."
amy

i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent

thanks for listening.
if you have comments please e-mail me!!!!

i just saw bert's listings(how could you miss them) & i was wondering if
anyone on this list went on the east coast fan tour for swamp in june of '94
that bert organized. just wanted to see if there would be anyone i'd
remember.
jean
"roberta, is that chew i see?"

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subject:      nigc-jenny is finally home

hi all-

sorry i haven't gotten the chance to write sooner, but with three
midterms this week and my parents in from north dakota last weekend,
everything has just been crazy.

anyway, i talked to jenny for about an hour on sunday (pleasant diversion
from biochemistry), and is she doing just great.  i guess some guy down
the hall from her in the hospital played the guitar, and was taking
requests, but when jenny asked for ig, the guy didn't know any.  argh.
she said she wished i could've been there to play some for her, and i was
kind of bummed because my guitar did survive the crash (don't ask me how
- must be the ig sticker on the case), but the whole time we were still
in baton rouge, jenny was in surgical icu and not her own room.  oh well
- i told her i'd play anything she wants when i get a chance to see her
this summer.

they were a little worried about her fever, which had a tendency to
return, and she had more than one ice bath, which really did not make her
happy.  she was able to return home, though, late monday night. she
called me today, all excited about the packages and cards waiting for her
at her house and that she had gotten today - whoever sent the videotapes,
t-shirt, and hat, i can't thank you enough, and jenny was saying how the
cards she's gotten from you all really make her day.  "seriously, dana,
the things people have written me in those cards are just so nice" must
have been said a good three or four times. you know she's excited when
she starts repeating herself alot.   prior to this, she
didn't have any bootlegs, and she said she got a couple in the mail -
thanks for bringing some of your concerts to her.  it's hard for me to
explain just how cool amy's soc in touch me fall is, and now she can know
what i'm all ranting and raving about.    she went to the doctor
again today, and he said that the skin graft took well, and they will
probably do the nerve graft in about another month or so.  she said she's
still in a good bunch of pain, especially after flying home, but that a
painkiller before bed knocks her out completely so she can sleep.  i did
send her this list address, but with people in wisconsin wanting to see
her and all, i don't know how long it will be until she can write.  her
hematocrit was really low after the accident since she lost so much
blood, and she did get a pint put in her from her grandmother before the
skin graft, but i still don't think her energy is anywhere near what it
used to be.  she did say that she can move around without getting
dizzy anymore, so i guess it's just a matter of time.

still haven't heard anything about getting her a card from ig, but i
think i'll fax russell carter's office again this week, and see if
anything turns up. you all have lifted her up so much, it'd be so great
to do this one last thing.

as for sheila, aaron, and myself, we're doing just fine.  all the people
who really need to know about what happened know now, and even though i
still get an empty feeling in the pit of my stomach when i talk about it,
at least i don't shake anymore. we got the rest of our stuff this week
that was in the front of the 4runner and too covered with glass and blood
for us to get to, but the people who sent it to us did a pretty good job
of cleaning that stuff off.  it still was really eerie, though.  getting
the picture developed of the four of us in front of the louisiana sign at
the rest stop five minutes before the 4runner flipped i'm sure will be
very eerie as well.  i think it'll be a while before i can get my film
developed.  the pictures on there would be too hard to see now.  with all
our stuff (minus one trashed 4runner) and jenny out of louisiana, it's
weird to think of all that really did happen there. things are almost
back to normal, but i think we are all still haunted by the images of
what did happen and what could have happened.  i know that none of us
will ever be the same, and in a lot of ways, that really is a good
thing.  i guess what i'm trying to say is let the people around you know
how important they are, because you never know when they could be taken
away.  jenny has taught me so much about how to live, how to really live,
and to think i could have lost that is just too much.

well, i guess that's about all i can say for now. i'm very envious of
all of you done with classes, and can't wait until i can say the same.

each life has its place,
dana

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subject:      from europe to newport

hi y'all

after having read the newport fest. line up i'm sure: i have to go to see
them!!!!!
but alas, there are a few problems:

- i live in holland so ->
- who will buy the ticket for me??
- i really like to meet up with you people all over the us, beforehand,
during and after the concert!!! is it possible??
- i want to stay a month in the us, travel through the country: any
suggestions???? where to go, where to stay and who to meet???
- is there anyone who goes all the way through the us by car??? maybe we
could drive together, wouldn't that be a nice sightseing!!!??

hum.... i am really getting desperate about ever getting to the us, it is my
dream and i can't wait any longer to live it... sorry to ask y'all for help...

i'm looking forward to your postings,
thanks and bye for now!

florine

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on 15 may 96 at 9:14, florinek wrote:

> hi y'all
>
> after having read the newport fest. line up i'm sure: i have to go to see
> them!!!!!
> but alas, there are a few problems:

hey, me too florine...i would love to go...there are so many
wonderful artists playing...i wish. you see, its not just the cost
of the flight...i could probably handle that, but to make the most of
the trip, go to the whole festival etc...thats where the money's
spent...and you can't really fix a budget to that...there's no way
you can figure out how much it will all come to. oh i'm in dilemma
city here...i'm aching to go but the moneything is too big a
hang-up...why oh why don't they have big folkfests over here that
fantastic artists go to.
constantly dreaming
love helene

"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky" kate wolf

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subject:      good morning, & thank you!

good morning y'all,

i am on my way to work. but before i go i just wanted to tell you all
how amazingly cool you all are.

i have been reading all the mail about gay marriages and all the mail
to and about jenny and dana's accident after jazz fest...

i just find it very, well....uplifting and positive.. so often times
in the real world i see so much intolerance and indifference for
other people..the energy and compassion here is very refreshing.
thanks y'all...

as someone once said.. "there's a lot of love in this room"

peace and love,

dan perkins

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okay....

i know there is a big debate about ani  cd's right now...and i'll just
let you all know that i'm in tight with the guy that owns the largest
independent record store in the state of michigan, and he let me listen
to the ani promo about two weeks ago.  it was, by far, her punkiest (not
like hard core punk, not like brewster either), or maybe spunkiest is a
better word, album yet.  it is extremely good, and i am picking up my
copy tomorrow (just to let you know, tues is the official release day,
but many stores put out their indie stuff before that, because indie
orders are shipped on thursdays).  so, i hope that helps some of you...if
you are in doubt, wait until it comes out, and ask to listen to the promo
at your local indie record store...

with dreams of owning my own record store...

love
aim

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anna:
at 09:02 pm 5/13/96 -0400, you wrote:
>hi!  i saw a message you posted on the ig mailing list. i was >wondering
what the kerrville folk fest was...
                                                                       ok.
took me a day or two to get time to respond.  sorry.  and since several
people have expressed interest - here's the scoop on the kerrville folk
festival.
     kerrville is in texas 60 miles north of san antonio, or 90 miles west
of austin.  the festival is held on a 20 acre ranch 7 miles outside of
kerrville.  its probably the coolest of all the folk festivals - not crowded
and the performers have a 4 year waiting list to get to play there - so
there are some really good ones.
     they have camping and are renown for the campfire sing-a-longs which
many of the main acts/performers even participate in.  those are _after_ the
evening concerts, which usually have six or seven performers, one right
after another, from 6pm to midnight.  last year there were these two girls
at a campfire - one played the chords on the guitar and the other strummed
the strings - while they sang, "closer to fine", and did an incredible job
of it.  everyone is very lowkey and laid back.  just there for the music.
maybe a crowd of say, 3000, on the nights headline performers play.
     the festival is from may 23 - june 16, 1996.  the evening concerts are
may 23 - 27th, and then each fri - sun thereafter.  they have a scaled down
level of "sundown concerts" during the week.  a "few" of the 120+ acts
scheduled for this year include, caroline aiken, nanci griffith, susan
werner, dar williams, sara hickman, ellis paul, cheryl wheeler, patty
larkin, gail davies, lucinda williams, etc. (i know - but i like women
acoustic performers - there are lot's of great male performers too <g>) you
sit outside in the texas hill country, under the stars, in a lawn chair or
lounger, and just listen to the cream of the acoustic crop of musicians do
their stuff.  i'm kind of surprised the ig haven't ever played there....
enough - i know - here's the www address for it if you want to know more.

http://www.fmp.com/~kerrfest/index.html

waiting on kerrville folk festival now...,

karen

    wow, hearing all about jenny's and dana's experiences have personally
been hard for me.  next week will be the one year anniversay of the day my
friend and i rolled my subaru brat on the way up to denver for a ig show.
stupid idiot me was flipping a tape and i went off the road.  the brat
rolled a few times side to side and end over end and luckily we landed back
on our wheels.  neither one of us was seroiusly injured, just minor cuts
and pretty bruises.  we hitch hiked the remaining 6 hours up to denver,
once we got released from the hospital (i was in the emergency room washing
my own damn cuts up, all concerned about the time cause the show was that
night) and when the girls came out on stage and played that first cord,
tears rolled down my face.  just the other night my friend was over here
and i was checking my mail and reading the latest update about jenny and
telling terri about her accident and we both had to pause for a minute,
breathe, and think about how lucky we were that 21st day of may, last year.
i am the lucky girl.  peace.

--sunny

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subject:      ig @ newport - getting a gathering toget

i am a new fan and i am definitely there this year. i live in the boston
area so i could help organize a ig gathering of this local mailing list.

shall we get names of interested bodies together? how 'bout
sending me your email address, name, where you are coming from
so we can collect and start making logistical plans.

regards,
melissa
melissa.marquis@fmr.com

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subject:      a&e at atlanta pride?!

oh, god, no, say it ain't so!

i know that sounds utterly horrible . . .

but dammit, i'm going to be in michigan that weekend! my wedding is up
there on 3 july, and i leave atlanta on 14 june to make sure that
everything is all set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

{sorry, but now i'm pouting.  i *really* want to be able to see them this
year {and drag my fiance, since he hasn't seen them live yet}, but i
couldn't go to no {midterms}, and i'm not sure if i'll be able to afford
to go to nff. :(  and now, when they'll be playing in atlanta, i have to
go and get married!  cancel the wedding! ;) }

nadyne.

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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 14 may 1996 22:32:21 edt
from: bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
subject: fan tours and other cheerful things

speaking of fan tours...

additional important news!!!

i would like to finish by briefly covering a few important topics.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

ps - sorry for the length of the past two posts; if you have read this
far, you really deserve to be commended. kiss kiss to all of you
sweetie darlings.

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happy birthday jennifer and rosie!!!

"i said now hold me closer 'cause something's happening..."

"...so i just sit up in the house and resist and not be seen until i cease to
exist a kind of conscientious objection a kind of dodging the draft..."

jshields@cluster.ucs.indiana.edu (jennifer)
djs500@cris.com (rosie)
"don't give that girl a gun"
"least complicated"
*:);)*

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subject:      re: best western at newport

     bertin wrote that he was getting rooms at the best western in newport, ri.
so when i made my travel arrangements i asked for a room at the best western.
my price is (and i confirmed thru amex with a fax memo) $116 per night for
fri & sat, 8/09 and 8/10, and on sunday its $79.20 for the night.
     so maybe it'd be better to reserve the rooms one at a time rather than
for a group of rooms.  just thought i'd offer the info - 'cause i'm 'bout
busted after that expensive jazzfest trip and wanted the lowest price i
could get...
     see y'all there.
almost truly yours,

karen

could someone please give me the number to rainy day records. i need to be
getting the jcs video.thanks,
ben

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subject:      newport/jcs/me questions...

wow! newport lineup looks really great! after all the great new orleans
stories i really don't want to miss out on august too... i can see i'm going
to have to break open my piggy bank/win the lottery/rob a bank/find a rich
lover (don't think my gf would be too happy 'bout that last one tho...)

anyway, while i dream on about the vague possibility of making the trip of a
lifetime, there's a couple of questions i'd be really grateful if someone
could answer:

1) how can i get hold of jcs video in european pal format? i tried mailing
daemon but got no reply :(

2) does anyone know if melissa e is going to be doing any shows in the uk
without bryan adams?

3) what song of the day are we on? i miss that thread! we've got to finish
so so we can get to discussing all the unreleased stuff!

take care y'all,

*************
seffy
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subject:      no igs for europe--but we do get ani...

for us europeans dreaming of a newport trip, just thought i'd remind people that ani at least *will* be here this summer... the dingwalls dates should be great- its a pretty small, club type setting.
patti smith is playing some eurodates too. amy, come on over and duet with her on free money...!

july
wed   7/17  galway, ireland     galway festival         tba
fri   7/19  reading, uk         womad festival          tba
sat   7/20  stratford, uk       phoenix festival        tba
sun   7/21  cardiff, uk         meltdown festival       tba
tue   7/23  london, uk          dingwalls               tba  :-)
wed   7/24  london, uk          dingwalls               tba  :-)
thur  7/25  konstanz, ger       konstanz festival       tba
fri   7/26  zurich, switz       tba                     tba
sun   7/28  nyon, switz         paleo festival          tba
tue   7/30  sesto calende, it   cortile palazzo comm.   tba
wed   7/31  modena, it          cortile wienno          tba
sat   8/03  belgium             folkfestival dranouter  tba
sun   8/04  cork, ireland       millstreet festival

bill.

i just finished typing an email to the pres. i'm sending it to myself first so
i can read it again and decide if i want to send it as is. the reason being
that it's a bit sarcastic. it's not mean or stupid or anything, just a bit
sarcastic and exasperated at what he said. i have to echo what someone else
already said about hating election year politics...well, politics in general.
you see, what he's doing is trying to pick up some "more conservative" votes.
he figures he's already gotten the vote of the more liberal camp. (some of you
have already stated that you'll vote for him despite his statement, so it
worked, right?) so he can move a ways to the right to try to take votes from
dole. all he has to do is stay to the left of dole, and he'll still have the
majority of the liberal/democratic vote. it's sleazy, it's misleading, and
it's irritating as all hell, (especially since there are a bunch of people out
there saying, "see? we were right! even our democratic president thinks
same-sex marriages are bad!"). but, *said with a grim, unpleasant smirk*
that's politics, folks!

the answer is to stay/get involved. send letters, send emails. let's be heard.

folkisgruven,
l-

driving...

    i           will            not        be               complacent
lorinda wright           "learn to pretend there's more than love that
lw01@lehigh.edu           matters. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.
    i           will            not         be              complacent

so if i am not who you thought i was, well hello it's nice to meet you.
willing to wait. i will survive. i will love every minute of my life. i will
not concede. i will believe. -melissa ferrick

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howdy :) just back from a trip to ohio that yielded som nice ig stuff including
another shades of indigo vinyl with green cover..anyone have this on vinyl in
another color? also closer to fine on promo 45"... does not have cold as ice
on b side instead has ctf again...and has white middle sticker instead of
black like normal release..says 'demonstration not for sale' zss 68912a
i think many of you probably have that..
and a promo copy of indigo girls with at stamp on the back in gold that says
'for promotion only ownsership reserved by cbs records inc. sale is unlawful'
note the mispelling of ownership! :)

and something from jcs - a promo sampler cassette from daemon called
what's for supper? - jcs @ sxsw featuring many songs including 'what's the
buzz' w/ the girls...and other stuff by plus songs by michelle malone, gerard m
chugh, new mongrels, lay quiet a while and ejs plus more - which reminds me
i also have a new still sealed copy of michelle malone relentless that i would
be up for trading if anyone needs it :) ok..all for now...oh yeah...all the
road signs are spoken for - i hope everyone is enjoying theirs! keep me in
mind if you ever had ig stuff you want to sell or see it at a shop - the
museum is coming along wonderfully :)
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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              melissa" at may 15, 96 10:05 am

>
> i am a new fan and i am definitely there this year. i live in the boston
> area so i could help organize a ig gathering of this local mailing list.
>
> shall we get names of interested bodies together? how 'bout
> sending me your email address, name, where you are coming from
> so we can collect and start making logistical plans.
>

great idea... you might want to take advantage of the work amy putnam
has already done. back when we were handing out bios amy noticed
there were at least 4 of us from the same neigborhood (davis sq. somerville)
and she started taking info regarding the locals.

also, there are going to be a lot of travellers there -- and its gonna rock!

-- chris

don't be sad.....usually the
entertainent at pride days
only play a few songs....
me ?? i think i'll go to san francisco
where my queer roots are :)
[if yur goin' ta sn frn csco...beee sure to wear sum flwers 'n yr hare...]

hey ! i sent a note to prez. bill....then read the advocate article
(silly me..i usually research sumthin' before i fly off the handle)
sounds to me like he's desperately trying to find a way to not piss
off everyone (situation normal)...and bracing for the issue to be
thrown into his face by the right wing ideologues (is that a word ?)
...while keeping one eye on the polls....
i'm still glad i chewed him out :p

[while i'm here...can anyone recomend a good scanner ?]

ta !
binky

"i've come a long way, i've come a long way
and never even left l.a."
(michelle shocked)

in a message dated 96-05-15 13:29:27 edt, bill writes:

>patti smith is playing some eurodates too. amy, come on over and duet with
>her on free money...!

my breath threatens to fail me at the thought of it !!!

*sigh* patti smith has been working with so many contemporary
artists (read; young gifted whippersnappers)....a collaboration
of smith and ray just seems logical :)

"i know it's stolen but i don't feel bad"

you know i made a tape where amy singin "all along the watchtower"
follows "birdland"....sounds damn good together...

binky

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subject:      (nigc) politics and choices
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in-reply-to:  <199605151737.naa118524@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>; from "lorinda
              wright" at may 15, 96 1:37 pm

i've been reading the gay marriage thread and i'm just throwing up my hands
in frustration.

its really beyond me how dupicitous politicians can be.  basically the
government is dening people a fundemental human right.  forget about
"gar rights," "womens rights," or "civil rights" its all the same
thing -- a human right -- except americans would rather die than admit
they deny human rights to people.  we're the ideal in terms of rights
after all!  (heavy sarcasm).  "gay rights" is so nice and
compartmentalized!  gays are "thems" not "us-es" to americans, and
after all "they just aren't normal" (more sarcasm).

i'll admit it, i was on the border between presidential choices
in 1992.  i voted for clinton, but i really didn't want to.  lets
face it, the man is not a great leader and that was apparent in the
1992 campaign.  but vote for bush again?  *shakes head*  just couldn't
do it.  wouldn't be prudent.

so now i look at this years slate, and its deja vu all over again:

  clinton:  a visioonary, but not a leader. flip-flops when the going gets
                tough in the polls.  i have my theories as to why, but
                its rather contavertial so i won't get into it.

  dole:     a remarkable legislator in his time, but he's a legislator
                not an executive. since 1988 he's wanted the presidency
                he'd do anything to get it, and has.  he seems to think
                its owed to him.  presidencies are never owed.

buchannan: meglomaniac. if he wins i move to canada or europe.
if he gets over 10% i may leave anyway.

perot speaking of meglomanicas... very simple a populist
worth more than 10 billion dollars? yeah right.

appealing choices aren't they?

the thing is there are people from both paries i could vote for.
on the democratic side, sam nunn or paul tsongas (get well soon paul).
from the republicans, warren ruddman and maybe elizabeth dole.
in the future (should he get actual exerience) colin powell lhas potential.

but noe of these people will run. its very sad. i will vote,
but i'm getting ready for that ashen taste again.

-- chris

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in a message dated 96-05-15 13:50:37 edt, joe writes:

>and something from jcs - a promo sampler cassette from daemon called
>what's for supper? - jcs @ sxsw featuring many songs including 'what's the
>buzz' w/ the girls...and other stuff by plus songs by michelle malone,
gerard
>m
>chugh, new mongrels, lay quiet a while and ejs plus more - w

this can be ordered through daemon...a steal @ 5 bucks !
(it's really good !!! i love the feed and seed marching abominable
and want them to play at my gradiation' frum evergreen next year * pleeeeeze*
;)

love,
binky winky

"hip zip cool, you sure look slick.."
(shocked)

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subject:      compilation cd w/ ig

a friend of mine just handed me a photocopy of an article in ice magazine.
for all of those interested, here it is (reprinted without permission):

beginning of article

live from the music hall

on friday, may 24, los angeles-based triple-a radio station ksca releases
the second volume in its ongoing "live from the music hall" series.
featuring 18 tracks and as many artists, all of the songs on the compilation
were culled from the station's cache of in-studio performances, except for
john hiatt's "cry love," which was recorded at starbuck's coffeehouse. none
of the renditions on the cd have been previously available.

the complete track listing for "live from the music hall vol. ii":

joan osborne - st. teresa
john mayall - ain't no brakeman
michelle shocked - come a long way
warren zevon - lawyers, guns and money
grant lee buffalo - honey don't think
dog's eye view - everything falls apart
lisa loeb - stay (i missed you)
john hiatt - cry love
bruce hornsby - the valley road
jill sobule - i kissed a girl
matthew sweet - we're the same
indigo girls - reunion
boxing ghandis - if you love me (why am i dying)
the badlees - fear of falling
joan armatrading - shapes and sizes
dillon o'brien - my father's son
the wild colonials - spark
timbuk 3 - the future's so bright, i gotta wear shades

although the first volume in the music hall series was available to anyone
with a phone, this year's installment is more exculsive. "last time we sold
the cd through the virgin megastores in southern california, and an 800
number provided by rhino [records]," ksca program director mike morrison
tells ice. "but we've decided not to use the 800 number this time. it's only
going to be sold through the virgin megastores in southern california."

"we made 10,000 units of the first volume," morrison continues. "they were
gone within a month. we're doing the same number this year, because we
really want to keep it as a limited edition. we want to get it in the hands
of passionate 101.9 fans."

ksca is once again donating a share of the proceeds to a charitable
organization, this time to the surfrider foundation (also see cover story).

end of article

well, that's all i know. don't know if you can order it through virgin and i
don't have any phone numbers for any of their stores or the radio station
sponsoring this.

good luck!
deanna

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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      semi-sob story & ig article

hey everyone:

nojf pix: semi-sob story. with some of the list members going thru
really tough situations, i don't want to cry over what should be
minutae, but here's a shed tear...

when i went to pu my nojf photos yesterday i opened the envelope to
find that von's had messed up my film.  "we're sorry" started the
note (give me a break).  anyway, can anyone make a set of their pix
available to this unfortunate soul?  i'm grasping at & for memories.

offbeat mag (no jazzfest issue):  i have 1 copy of this magazine
which features a story on ig (through time with joan baez, the indigo
girls, and joan osborne by david h. jones).  the article is 3 pages
long (a bit long to post), but i'll be happy to mail you a copy if
you want.  just e-mail me your address.

5/2 & 5/4 boots: does anyone have? is a tape tree being set up for
distribution? new songs are great. i just don't want to forget them
& hate waiting for studio versions.

it was wonderful meeting everyone, thanks for saving & sharing space
at the front & for getting rid of the "trespassing, alien, technical
photographer,"

melissa
trying to keep cool in vegas

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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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> >
> > i am a new fan and i am definitely there this year.   i live in the boston
> > area so i could help organize a ig gathering of this local mailing list.
> >
>
> great idea...  you might want to take advantage of the work amy putnam
> has already done.  back when we were handing out bios amy noticed
> there were at least 4 of us from the same neigborhood (davis sq. somerville)
> and she started taking info regarding the locals.

indeed i have a list of bostn area folks and some from farther out.
i havnt had a chance to do anythign with them yet becuase around the same
time i was gatehrting the list, i took a new position at work. i know
some of you have left for the summer, so e can try a local thing in the
fall. in the meantime, i am willing to help for newport.

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subject:      re: [humor] aliens and weather balloons

is this from someone on the list or have we all been struck by "email
salesmen" again? sure, it was funny, but the lack of igc lately (and
i'm partially to blame) has become rather depressing. especially
with a few "e-advertizing" messages thrown in. :}

anna

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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      help please

does anyone know if amy went to boarding school?  (the line from
dmh--lying on the bright blue jumping mats, dinner bell is ringing)
and
can someone please help me summarize tmf in a few sentences?  like, what
it's about, briefly.  i'm not analyzing it in depth (don't think i
understand it well enough), but have to mention it in relation to the
other songs.

not asking for anyone to write this paper for me, just feeling stuck.

thanks y'all,
karey

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subject:      re: compilation cd w/ig

hi all!

this ksca 'live from the music hall' cd looks great!! for info on the cd
see deanna's post below. thanks for the info deanna. =)

i found some info on the cd at the ksca web site (http://www.ksca.com). the
cd will be sold in the newport (costa mesa), burbank, and west hollywood
virgin megastores (http://www.virginusa.com).

i called the stores and they said they cant ship anything, even if i ordered
larger quantities. maybe some super-duper ig listers in the los angeles
area could volunteer to act as distribution people??? just a thought.

have a great day! =)

john

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deanna's post...

a friend of mine just handed me a photocopy of an article in ice magazine.
for all of those interested, here it is (reprinted without permission):

beginning of article

live from the music hall

the complete track listing for "live from the music hall vol. ii":

ksca is once again donating a share of the proceeds to a charitable
organization, this time to the surfrider foundation (also see cover story).

end of article

well, that's all i know. don't know if you can order it through virgin and i
don't have any phone numbers for any of their stores or the radio station
sponsoring this.

good luck!
deanna

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hi melissa:

can i have a copy of the joan/ig/joan article? i'll be your friend
forever if you send it . . .

chris talbot
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that the
universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
--kevin smith

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subject:      me need chords !!! nigc (well...e sings on it :)tmf musing

dos any of you'se guys know the chords
to "not dead (yet)" ?????
i having large trouble figurin' this one out !

sweetie darlings !!!
love your hair !
hope you win !

binky winky
(help, i'm mutating !)

...whats a song of the day ??? ;)
tmf... weird song ...love it, not sure what it means...mostly
different images rising in a fog
becoming clear for a moment
then fading away before i can really make it out...
grows on me...and it grows as they perform it...
it's alive ....

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hey!!! patti smith!
some peformances this summer, mostly on the west coast (damn!) a bunch of
wicked cool artists...suzanne vega, patti smith, lisa loeb, paula cole, aimee
mann!!!!!!!, and sarah mclachlan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i of course have deleted every single thing i've been reading about it
without a thought since...well....i'm on the east coast (damn!) but if i find
them somewhere i can post 'em. the dates, that is. :)

um. as for ani the closest she's coming to miami is new orleans &...well,
i've done n.o.
;) i'll have to be happy with the new album! & the one i bought today! & the
other one that i ordered from rbr!!!!!!!!!!

yet another pointless post from
r
i
c
k
*untucked*

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from:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
subject:      so long, it's been fun

howdy y'all,

just a note to say goodbye. i am going to have to sign off of the
list now.

why? well, i purchased this computer i am using just over a month
ago, from a pawn shop. the police called me today to tell me the
computer is stolen and i will have to return it. bummer. supposedly i
will get my money for the computer back, but i am out the money i
spent on software, mouse and modem. i don't know how long, it
will be before i buy another computer (if i do), but if i do i will be back.

anyhow, it has been a massive joy for me to get to know you all and
to share the music of ig with you. hopefully be seing you all at some
ig concerts next year!

peace and love,

dan perkins
aka
problemchild
aka
bassman

p.s.

if anyone wants to e-mail me privately you can e-mail me through work
at dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us (they don't minde me getting a few
personal e-mails through work...but they object to listserves, irc,
usenetgroups,etc.

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subject:      down by the river chords

well this is what you all wanted so here you have it.

down by the river neil young (indigo girls version)

very loosely translated bass line:

e -----------------------|---------------------
b -----------------------|---------------------
g -----------------------|---------------------
d -----------------------|---------------------
a -----------------------|---------------------
e ---0----3----55-----|--0--55--3-22--0

              em                      a                       em
                 a
verse 1:  be on my side, i'll be on your side.  there is no reason
for you to hide.
              em              a                               em
                   a
              it's so hard, staying here all alone.  you could be
taking me for a ride.

              c         d                 c                         d
                       c                 d
chorus:  (ooooo, la, la, la, la)  she could drag me over the rainbow,
and send me away...
             g       d       a       g d        a        g      d
   a       em
             down by the river, i shot my baby.  down by the river...
dead.  (jam in em) em a
              em                       a
     em                            a
verse 2:  take my hand and i'll take your hand, baby.  together we'll
make it away.
             em                            a
em                    a
             this much madness is too much sorrow.  it's impossible
to make it today.

chorus

jam (any em scale) em a

verse 1
                     c       d                  c
     d                        c                 d
last chorus:  (ooooo la, la, la, la)  she could drag me, over the
rainbow, and send me away
                    g       d        a     g   d       a
                    down by the river, i shot my baby  (2x)
use the g-d-a progression for this:
                    (down by the river, i shot my baby)  you take my
hand, i'll take your hand baby

together we'll make it away.

this much madness is too much sorrow, it's impossible

  to make it today (2x)
                        g       d        a
  slower tempo:  down by the river

okay, that's it.   not hard at all.  i really love this song, both
versions.  the neil young version is so different from the indigo
girls' but it is great.  so have fun with this.  yesterday my band
did an excellent, very climatic jam on this (we're an improv band)
and because the chords are so simple it makes it very easy to have a
good jam.  so enjoy this.

gwen

in exchange for any boots i don't have in my hot little hands yet, i was
wondering if anyone wanted to send me to the virgin megastore w/ orders for
this ksca compilation since it's about 10 min. away from my house. (i'm also
in the listener's club, so i think i'll be getting an early crack at the
cd's). e me privately with requests, etc and we'll talk details.
later y'all,
karen

at 03:13 pm 5/15/96 -0400, you wrote:
>a friend of mine just handed me a photocopy of an article in ice magazine.
>for all of those interested, here it is (reprinted without permission):
>
>beginning of article
>
>live from the music hall
>
>on friday, may 24, los angeles-based triple-a radio station ksca releases
>the second volume in its ongoing "live from the music hall" series.
>featuring 18 tracks and as many artists, all of the songs on the compilation
>were culled from the station's cache of in-studio performances, except for
>john hiatt's "cry love," which was recorded at starbuck's coffeehouse. none
>of the renditions on the cd have been previously available.
>
>the complete track listing for "live from the music hall vol. ii":
>
>joan osborne - st. teresa
>john mayall - ain't no brakeman
>michelle shocked - come a long way
>warren zevon - lawyers, guns and money
>grant lee buffalo - honey don't think
>dog's eye view - everything falls apart
>lisa loeb - stay (i missed you)
>john hiatt - cry love
>bruce hornsby - the valley road
>jill sobule - i kissed a girl
>matthew sweet - we're the same
>indigo girls - reunion
>boxing ghandis - if you love me (why am i dying)
>the badlees - fear of falling
>joan armatrading - shapes and sizes
>dillon o'brien - my father's son
>the wild colonials - spark
>timbuk 3 - the future's so bright, i gotta wear shades
>
>although the first volume in the music hall series was available to anyone
>with a phone, this year's installment is more exculsive. "last time we sold
>the cd through the virgin megastores in southern california, and an 800
>number provided by rhino [records]," ksca program director mike morrison
>tells ice. "but we've decided not to use the 800 number this time. it's only
>going to be sold through the virgin megastores in southern california."
>
>"we made 10,000 units of the first volume," morrison continues. "they were
>gone within a month. we're doing the same number this year, because we
>really want to keep it as a limited edition. we want to get it in the hands
>of passionate 101.9 fans."
>
>ksca is once again donating a share of the proceeds to a charitable
>organization, this time to the surfrider foundation (also see cover story).
>
>end of article
>
>well, that's all i know. don't know if you can order it through virgin and i
>don't have any phone numbers for any of their stores or the radio station
>sponsoring this.
>
>good luck!
>deanna
>
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________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
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subject:      (nigc) gay marriage on tv

saw an ad for friday's edition of the tv show dateline nbc.
apparently they are running a story about gay marriage friday night.
it's on at 9 pm est. should be interetsing...i will have to tape it
since the burns sisters are playing at passim (big hint for boston
folks...good entertainment)

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my deepest thanks to everyone on the list who was kind enough to share their
thoughts & opinions on which ani album i should buy ... though i think it
will be very difficult for me to choose just one! i'll let you know how it
goes. thanks again!

anna

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i know stuff's been posted about this (but i can't remember exactly),
so could someone forward me the old posts or tell me the dates or something
- cause i actually know someone who lives there and will be lucky enough
to go without any road travel.

thanks y'll :)
donna

(p.s. jen, you get this?)

x-shameless cd-plug: willy porter, dog-eared dream
lines: 42

michael messner <mmessner@step.mother.com> wrote:

none of this is news; he's said as early as '92 that he opposes same-sex
marriage. but what he's also said, and he's keeping mum on right now, is
that he's for an equivalent legal status, or changes to
tax/benefits/housing/work laws to ensure equal treatment.

express your pov, certainly... but please, only one message to
president@whitehouse.gov, and make it respectful. the more redundant,
ignorant messages go there, the less they'll respect any of the opinions
expressed via that medium.

even better, write your congresspersons, since the bill is in the house.
the human rights campaign makes it easy if you don't know who they are --
just enter your zip code, and they'll return the info, including hypertext
e-mail address (http://www.hrcusa.org).

also, be aware that because some people are quick to send childish messages
(i.e., with the 4-letter words someone mentioned), e-mail is the least
respected method for communications. they know that many e-mails come from
people that aren't even old enough to vote, and many more from people who
just don't vote. if you call, it's better. and if you write it's best (but
it's getting late for that in this case) -- if you'll take time to write a
congrssperson, they're pretty sure your a voter. in any case, be sure to
include your full name and snail mail address for a reply.

do what you like -- but do something.

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__________________________________________________________________________
      i really feel my sexuality is a continuum.  i mean, i've had
   relationships with women and men - both are a big pain in the ass.
                   - jill sobule, to deneuve magazine

just received about 8 ejs tapes circa 1991 - 1993. if you want to set up a
trade, email me at this return address :)

jude :) <==dubber extraordinaire :)

shoot me... i am not able to get to even *one* ig concert yet in the short
time that i have been a fan... but guess where i'm going at the end of this
month??? well... i get the distinct pleasure of taking my 13 year old son
and his three friends ( all the same age... arrrghhhh!!!! ) to a weird al
yankovik concert in vancouver... :- ) can't wait for that acordian burning
finale'!!! ( ah... so i'm a closet weird al fan.i admit it )... anyhoo, i
got to wondering... what if weird al parodied an ig song?....
achem....
fred mann's still
we were down at fred mann's still
sipping jars of good rot-gut
looking through our glassy eyes
at the percolatin' stuff
you told me of crashing cars
on the way from late night bars
i told you what i feel most...
drunkards shouldn't ought to boast, bout driven...
don't you take yer keys
remember to... la la la
:- )
well... whatever... i'm in an odd mood this mornin'... hope i havn't
offended any weird al fans :- ) i*know* i've offended a few ig fans... :- )
peace + parodies, all... kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
****************************************
when you learn to love yourself, you will
disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
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subject:      re: the internet user warning once again

-- [ from: chris allen * emc.ver #2.10p ] --

dear friends,
hi again i have tried twice to post this but dropped the ball
both times.. so here goes one more time....

subject: virus alert

this was forwarded to me from a from a pretty good source. better

safe
than sorry.

immediately delete (do not open or read) any email you might receive
with the subject heading "good times."

there is a computer virus that is being sent across the internet. if

  you receive an email message with the subject line "good  times",
  do not read the message, delete it immediately.  please read the
  messages below. some miscreant is sending  email under the title
  "good times" nationwide, if you get anything like this, don't down
  load the file!

it has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything

on
it. please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care
about.

warning!!!!!!! internet virus **

   the fcc released a warning last wednesday concerning a matter of
major
  importance to any regular user  of the internet. apparently a new
  computer virus has been engineered by a user of america on line
  that is unparalleled in its destructive capability. other more
  well-known viruses such as "stoned", "airwolf" and "michaelangelo"
  pale in comparison to the  prospects of this newest creation by a
  warped mentality. what makes this virus so terrifying, said the fcc,

is the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer
to be infected. it can be spread through the existing email systems

of
  the internet.  once a computer is infected, one of  several things
  can  happen. if the computer contains a hard drive, that  will  most
  likely be destroyed.  if the program is not stopped, the  computer's
  processor will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite binary loop
  -which can severely damage the processor if left running that way
too
  long.

unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is

  happening until it is far too late. luckily, there is one sure  means
  detecting what is now known as the "good times" virus. it always
  travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with
  the subject line reading "good times".   avoiding infection is  easy
  once the file has been received simply by not reading it! the act  of
  loading the file into the mail server's ascii buffer causes the
  "good times" mainline program to initialize and execute.  the
program
  is highly intelligent- it will send copies of itself to everyone
whose
  email address is contained in a receive-mail file or a sent-mail
file,
  if it can find one. it will then proceed to trash the computer it  is
  running on.  the bottom line there  is  - if you receive a file  with
  subject line "good times", delete it immediately! do not read it"
  rest assured that whoever's name was on the "from" line was surely

  struck by the virus. warn your friends and local system users of
this
  newest threat to the internet! it could save them a lot of time  and
  money.
                chris....

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 12:01:30 -0400
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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from:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
subject:      dat recording of uno show

i was catching up on my newsgroups and came across an interesting post.
on the ig newsgroup - someone has a dat recording of the uno show and
is looking for someone to help with a tape tree. i don't have any dat
equipment, so i didn't bother to reply to the post. if any of you are
interested you may want to check it out.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

hi!
sorry to post nigc but i felt the need to respond to a recent warning about
the goodtime virus.

it is not true. it is a scam made up by some aol user. do not worry about it!

i read a few articles in internet related magazines and a newspaper mentioning
that this virus is a scam and that it has been scaring everyone for months.

i work at a technical institute and computer viruses are a popular conversation
topic here--- i have been assured that the goodtime thing is only a rumor and
that no such virus exists.

back to your regularly scheduled indigo!!!!!!!!!
:-)

in the spirit of the earth,
cynthia
crecca@admin.njit.edu

i didn't mean to flame whoever sent the warning to the list, but reassure every one that they have nothing to fear! please don't hate me!

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 19:13:49 +0100
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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this virus does not exist, it never has. it is a complete hoax!!! this
has been known for about three years!

mat

can anyone tell me when the newport festival is?

thanx.........lisa

when i grow up i want to be an old woman-

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 11:13:20 -0700
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      strange fire offer

i received this from a friend who is not on the list today and she asked
that i post it to you all. if you want any info on the charity or the
details of the sale, please write

blubirdcaf@aol.com

and not me since i know as much as you do. thanks and good luck!

_______________________begin forwarded message____________________________

>got a favor to ask you.  someone on the cheryl wheeler list is selling
>original strange fire cassettes (already paid for).  she is asking only
>$12 per tape + $3 shipping.  i just bought one and she has 4 left.  her
>e-mail is: blubirdcaf@aol.com and her name is amy.  can you post this to
>the list for her?  she is donating all proceeds (except the $3 for
>shipping) to a charity called "book 'em" which i forget what it is, but
>it sounded good.  this is not an auction, so i guess first come, first
>served.  thanks!  (and no, i dont' know if these are still in their
original >shrink-wraps).

[][][] /""\ [][][]
  |::| /____\ |::|                 karen a. vittek
  |[]|_|::::|_|[]|                 bx 63342 carson
  |::::::__::::::|                 eugene, or 97403
  |:::::/||\:::::|                   503-346-9977
  |:#:::||||::#::|
#%*###&*##&*&#*&##
##%%*####*%%%###*%*#         kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu
       empsoft

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 15:42:09 -0500
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from:         kristal elaine cain <kec8144@tam2000.tamu.edu>
subject:      yet another sad farewell

sorry to bother you guys but just wanted to say bye and it's been fun.
ecspecially no, hopefully i'll see you in newport. but for now i'm off
the list and heading to the beautiful nw to work/ play all summer long.
if you need me i'm staying with the amazing madame detore, or miranda to
the rest of you :) buh bye for now *sniff, sniff*

love luck and lollipops or tootsie rolls, or both for the bicandied among
us :)

kristal the euphoric traveler

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subject:      good times
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on thu, 16 may 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> this virus does not exist, it never has. it is a complete hoax!!! this
> has been known for about three years!
>
amazing, really, that people think this is a real thing. i got a
system-wide message (went to every email address on campus) warning about
the good times virus.

shortly after, a retraction was posted.

people are just suckers.

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admissions (call 800-827-8728), actor, director, ibm fanatic, documentation
author, single guy, & much, much more! apvlbsb. a+e=ig. try my home page at
"http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap" "the only way out is through."

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 16:46:00 edt
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subject:      songs of days?????

hey all!
        first let me issue the standard tracy-claimer that i, for one, love *all*
the content in this list, nigc included - so this post has nothing to do
with that.
        that issued; i'd like to vote that we get started on the song threads
again cuz' i really enjoy them and will even promise to advance an
occasional opinion here and there if the rest of you will start this up again,
kay?  yes - that's right - i will even try not to lurk.  <hands begin shaking>
        sorry to say i totally forget where we were on so....  i do feel fairly
sure that we hadn't gotten to tmf yet... which i await b/c (and it terrifies me
to admit this to y'all) i don't get this song at all!!!!!   <averts eyes
in shame>  bugs me a lot b/c i feel like i *should* get it since it was such a
focus marketing-wise when so was released...  i have tried, i really have....
*sigh*  so there, i've exposed myself to you gezillion folks (so to speak) all
just for the hope that we'll get song of the day (or week...?) back n' running
again...  if ya' wanna flame me, hey - cool - i like the attention.  ;-)  besides,
i'll just send ya' one of our ig-l paper bags.

take care, all - and positive thoughts to everyone involved in "watershed"
events... seems like there are a lot of you (us). as the saying goes, what ever
doesn't kill you makes you strong. here's to all of us getting stronger.

tracy*
--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--
*       sincere woofs -- tracy weeks
*                               and the beast patrol:
*            true, holly da' bear, molly, & looker (et. al)
*
*      i may believe something passionately, that does not make me right.
*           i may disagree with you fervently, that does not make you wrong.
*        keep talking.  the vital lessons are those that force me
*                       to change my mind.

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subject:      watershed video and large negative numbers(some igc)

lurk mode off:
i was on my nordic-trak, watching "brain candy" , ws to be precise. every
time emily says....(paraphrase)..."it is hard to know what my life would
be like without this experience, as an artist attached to a major label,
it would be more than nothing, it would be so much more than nothing",
the r and l sides of my brain start to have a dialog again. many of her
phrases pop into my head in unguarded moments, but this one goes around
and around something like this...
rside:..yeah i know what she means.
lside: sure, not(recording contract) =>0, therefore (recording contract)
= <0 , so its subtracted something.
rs:..no, you got that wrong. she obviously means life would have a
fraction of the value it has with the experience.>-|
ls: cant be , has to be less than 0, and the smallest fraction is more
than 0 <-)
rs: ok, maybe she mispoke herself. she means without the experience it
would be like life raised to the power of (-2), or something.
ls: nope, wont work, still positive
rs: well i know that she means. its about feeling, you know, like
life-music = the square root of (-1)
ls: prove it!
rs: i don't have to prove anything you know, its the "algebra of feeling"
:-))
ls: ????
rs: life is complex, it has real and imaginary parts.;-)
ls: where'd you get that?
rs: i dunno, stole it i guess. maybe its a koan.
ls: whats a koan?(synapses are starting to overheat)
rs: good question....
and on and on...
anyone else have this problem?. any known cures? back to my nit(pick)ing
lurk mode on:

keep on keepin' on.( b. dylan)
still crazy after all these years (p. simon)

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> emily says....(paraphrase)..."it is hard to know what my life would
> be like without this experience, as an artist attached to a major label,
> it would be more than nothing, it would be so much more than nothing",
> the r and l sides of my brain start to have a dialog again.

i always took this to mean "it's hard to imagine what my life would have
been like without this experience... but i know that even if this hadn't
happened, my life would still have been very meaningful. you don't need
to have a major label contract for your life to be meaningful."

so if emily's life right now is, say, a mango, an amazingly tasty one at
that, she says it's hard to imagine it being anything but a mango... but
if it weren't, it'd probably be a nice plum or a pomegranate or some other
fruit that's big and juicy and sweet. but she'll take the mango. =)

mango,

scot

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: good times
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on thu, 16 may 1996, drew vogel wrote:

> on thu, 16 may 1996, indigo jo wrote:
>
> > this virus does not exist, it never has. it is a complete hoax!!! this
> > has been known for about three years!
> >
> amazing, really, that people think this is a real thing. i got a
> system-wide message (went to every email address on campus) warning about
> the good times virus.
>

yeah that happened here too ... this idiot at my college posted to one of our
news groups that they thought they might warn us about this dreadful virus
...

has anyone ever heard of other scams like this?   there is apparently one in
circulation requesting that you send a "get well" card to a bloke who's
got cancer.   apparently this was started by a bloke who did have cancer
in an attempt to get into the guinness book of records for the most get well
cards ever received.   he did get into the book and he is now better, but
still receiving get well cards from people who see the message and think it's
still relevant.

mat

just wanted to see if this thing works before i start dazzling ya'll with my
comments.

paula

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 17:50:52 -0400
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from:         "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
subject:      some igc not much: the gig, in new york city

near the corner of broadway and prince street in soho (one block south
of houston street) is a relatively new store called the gig that sells
jackets, t-shirts, some other memorabilia, etc., of rock, r&b, punk.
the upper (ground level) floor is mostly grateful dead stuff and doors
and rolling stones stuff. bottom (basement) is everything else -- no ig
stuff at all, though. some janis joplin and _only_ diff. kinds of
melissa etheridge shirts. i asked the cashier if they ever get any ig
stuff and she shrugged and said "maybe t-shirts sometimes..."

so much for nyc.

anyway, does anyone out there know of a web site that might have a
roundup of the various ig-related memorabilia and clothing extant? just
curious.

sampai jumpa (indonesian for "see ya later!")

rahadyan

i am leaving for home on saturday, so this will probably be my last post.

however, my obsessive-compulsive personality has lead me to ask this one
last question.

i have been looking at the many ig pictures that i have collected and have
noticed that emily usually faces the camera, with her eyes open while amy
either has her eyes closed or is in profile. the commercially released
pictures i have seem to "hide" amy. does anyone else see this? or is my
a-side showing through in this question?

have a great summer - everyone!! i'll be back in the fall.
alycia

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oh ellen, is it your obsession with openesss
that is driving all of the men away?

- mrs. mogan
on ellen

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 18:45:09 -0400
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from:         paul lucente <plucente@cybernex.net>
subject:      re: goodtime virus is not real (nigc)

for anyone interested, here is a url to a web page that details the history
of the hoax, as well as a few other urban legends, including the craig
shergold "hoax":

http://cac.psu.edu/~jsm158/ul/

now if you will all excuse me, i must get back to the daunting task of
trying to get my computer's processor out of an nth-complexity infinite
binary loop.

paul

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date:         thu, 16 may 1996 17:41:52 -0700
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subject:      caroline aiken at eddie's
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hey y'all,

just wanted to let everyone know that caroline aiken will be playing eddie's
attic in decatur tomorrow night (friday, may 17th) at 9:30pm.  caroline has
had a blast on the road these past few months, but she's looking forward to
playing in her own neighborhood.  this is a solo show, though she'll have
some friends dropping in to play, and it should be a rockin' fun time.  hope
some of you will be able to make it.

ciao,

lorene machado, manager
on the fly entertainment, p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca, 90039, (888) 586-7074
lorene@flylive.com

   so many people have been asking about song of the day, i just thought i'd
throw an idea out there...
   since a majority of the newer ig fans were introduced to the girls by the
cd swamp ophelia, i thought that beginning next week we should revise the
list to make it song of the week, beginning with fugitive, and going on
through to this train. i know that when i started this thread i had time to
respond every day, but i missed every song on rites of pasage, just because i
didn't have time to get on the computer as often as i would have liked. i
also thought (just comment if you disagree)  thtat after that, we could cover
the live cd's (botby and 1200 c), and then start the whole thing over again!
maybe by then we'll have a new cd to swoon over, but just in case we don't,
it's always nice to hear new interpretations and information. also, for all
the poor college kids who've been torn from their cyber lifeline, this will
give them a chance to catch up next school year.

so, what cha think?

angie in kc

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subject:      barely igc..  weird al

i can't believe she talked me into this......
<putting my official ig-l paper bag over my head to avoid being recognized...>

adding to the kimpost (against my better judgement... )

kim(digo) began....
>>fred mann's still
>>we were down at fred mann's still
>>sipping jars of good rot-gut
>>looking through our glassy eyes
>>at the percolatin' stuff
>>you told me of crashing cars
>>on the way from late night bars
>>i told you what i feel most...
>>drunkards shouldn't ought to boast, bout driven...
>>don't you take yer keys
>>remember to... la la la
>>:- )

someone (certainly not me... ahem... just some hacker using my account..) continued:

remember to des-ig-nate
        don't drink a pitcher
remember your way back home
        don't leave a mess here
walk that striaght line for me..
        touch your hands to your face...  (can you find your face?)

lying on the floor in some strange place
        gawd my head is ringing...
barking dogs and garbage trucks
        and the sound of my upchucks...
we watched the bonfires in the sky....
        from the still, it  blew up high..
call for help, while i run fast
        promises that i'll stay sober forever...
                yeah - i'll stay sober for-ever.....
don't you ....

all flaming can be directed to kim!!!  (besides, she's got those nifty asbestos undies (so she says) mine are still on backorder...)
apologies.
tracy <who will keep this bag on for a time....>
*
--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--
*       sincere woofs -- tracy weeks
*                               and the beast patrol:
*            true, holly da' bear, molly, & looker (et. al)
*
*     *family* has nothing to do with who sleeps with whom...
*        it has everything to do with *belonging* ...
*               and everything to do with commitment."
*                        -kim(digo) fischer

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subject:      re: song of the day -revised
x-cc:         angiecies@aol.com

{snipping left and right - w/ my newly sharpened snippers}
angie in kc boldly suggested:
>, i thought that beginning next week we should revise the
>list to make it song of the week, beginning with fugitive, and going on
>through to this train.

in reply i <bouncing like tigger - wunnerful things> simply say:
yes yes yes!!! i vote yes!! what she said!

care y'all!
tracy*
--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--
*       sincere woofs -- tracy weeks
*                               and the beast patrol:
*            true, holly da' bear, molly, & looker (et. al)
*
*     *family* has nothing to do with who sleeps with whom...
*        it has everything to do with *belonging* ...
*               and everything to do with commitment."
*                        -kim(digo) fischer

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subject:      [humor] hot from your chemist's oven ... err, autocave
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this one may be too much for non-science people.  however, anyone who had read
any  protocol writen by a particularly a.r. chemist, biologist, or engineer
should be able to enjoy it.  it is sent by a a.r. classmate of mine, scott.

btw, it is a great recipe.
------------

the chemists' recipe for chocolate chip cookies:

ingredients:

1.)             532.35 cm3 gluten
2.)             4.9 cm3 nahco3
3.)             4.9 cm3 refined halite
4.)             236.6 cm3 partially hydrogenated tallow triglyceride
5.)             177.45 cm3 crystalline c12h22o11
6.)             177.45 cm3 unrefined c12h22o11
7.)             4.9 cm3 methyl ether of protocatechuic aldehyde
8.)             two calcium carbonate-encapsulated avian albumen-coated protein
9.)             473.2 cm3 theobroma cacao
10.)            236.6 cm3 de-encapsulated legume meats (sieve size #10)

to a 2-l jacketed round reactor vessel (reactor #1) with an overall
heat-transfer coefficient of about 100 btu/f-ft2-hr, add ingredients one, two
and three with constant agitation.  in a second 2-l reactor vessel with a
radial flow impeller operating at 100 rpm, add ingredients four, five, six, and
seven until the mixture is homogenous.  to reactor #2, add ingredient eight,
followed by three equal volumes of the homogenous mixture in reactor #1.
additionally, add ingredient nine and ten slowly, with constant agitation.
care must be taken at this point in the reaction to control any temperature
rise that may be the result of an exothermic reaction.  using a screw extrude
attached to a #4 nodulizer, place the mixture piece-meal on a 316ss sheet (300
x 600 mm).  heat in a 460k oven for a period of time that is in agreement with
frank & johnston's first order rate expression (see jacos, 21, 55), or until
golden brown.  once the reation is complete, place the sheet on a 25c
heat-transfer table, allowing the product to come to equilibrium.
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caveat
        n.
        1. (law) a formal notice filed by an interested party with a court or
officer, requesting the postponement of a proceeding until he is heard.
        2. a warning or caution.
        etymology:  latin, let him beware < cavere, to beware.
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subject:      re: good times (nigc)
x-to:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.93.960516225951.31276a-100000@osfb.aber.ac.uk>

on thu, 16 may 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> on thu, 16 may 1996, drew vogel wrote:
> > >
> > amazing, really, that people think this is a real thing. i got a
> > system-wide message (went to every email address on campus) warning about
> > the good times virus.
> >
>
> yeah that happened here too ... this idiot at my college posted to one of our
> news groups that they thought they might warn us about this dreadful virus
> ...
>
> has anyone ever heard of other scams like this?   there is apparently one in
> circulation requesting that you send a "get well" card to a bloke who's
> got cancer.   apparently this was started by a bloke who did have cancer
> in an attempt to get into the guinness book of records for the most get well
> cards ever received.   he did get into the book and he is now better, but
> still receiving get well cards from people who see the message and think it's
> still relevant.
>
it's funny, mat... i got a system-wide message about that too! craig
sheffield or something like that was the guy's name.

ah well...

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date:         fri, 17 may 1996 05:33:34 -0700
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subject:      re: [humor] hot from your chemist's oven ... err, autocave

at 11:30 pm 5/16/96 edt, you wrote:

>this one may be too much for non-science people.  however, anyone who had read
>any  protocol writen by a particularly a.r. chemist, biologist, or engineer
>should be able to enjoy it.  it is sent by a a.r. classmate of mine, scott.
>
>btw, it is a great recipe.

and then you wrote:

>please note that this humor mailing is simply that: it's intended to be
>humorous stuff you can share with your family. you can subscribe by
>emailing to alig@dartmouth.edu.

you know, humorous postings are a nice diversions sometimes, but if i wanted
humor, wouldn't i just subscribe at alig@dartmouth.edu?  when i find
something humorous on the web and i want to share it, i send it to my
friends.  i don't really understand why people send it to mailing lists
whose topics are so far removed from the subject of the humorous post.  but
i guess that is just mho based on the amount of superfluous material that
gets posted.

i guess i just in a grumbling mood again...

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"if my life were a movie/i would light a cigarette/
and the smoke would curl/around my face/
everything i would do would be interesting" -ani difranco

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subject:      re: good times (nigc)

>> has anyone ever heard of other scams like this?   there is apparently one in
>> circulation requesting that you send a "get well" card to a bloke who's
>> got cancer.   apparently this was started by a bloke who did have cancer
>> in an attempt to get into the guinness book of records for the most get well
>> cards ever received.   he did get into the book and he is now better, but
>> still receiving get well cards from people who see the message and think it's
>> still relevant.
>>
>it's funny, mat... i got a system-wide message about that too! craig
>sheffield or something like that was the guy's name.
>
>ah well...

yeah, and it's funny that i am on an indigo girls mailing list, and everyone
is posting publicly about their system-wide messages about internet hoaxes
that waste bandwidth.

interesting....

:dwayne

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"if my life were a movie/i would light a cigarette/
and the smoke would curl/around my face/
everything i would do would be interesting" -ani difranco

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date:         fri, 17 may 1996 08:59:08 -0400
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subject:      re: song of the day-revised

on thu, 16 may 1996 22:49:24 -0400, angiecies@aol.com wrote:

--------------------begin quoted material----------------------
   so many people have been asking about song of the day, i just
thought i'd
throw an idea out there...
   since a majority of the newer ig fans were introduced to the girls
by the
cd swamp ophelia, i thought that beginning next week we should revise
the
list to make it song of the week, beginning with fugitive, and going on
through to this train. i know that when i started this thread i had
time to
respond every day, but i missed every song on rites of pasage, just
because i
didn't have time to get on the computer as often as i would have liked.
i
also thought (just comment if you disagree)  thtat after that, we could
cover
the live cd's (botby and 1200 c), and then start the whole thing over
again!
maybe by then we'll have a new cd to swoon over, but just in case we
don't,
it's always nice to hear new interpretations and information. also, for
all
the poor college kids who've been torn from their cyber lifeline, this
will
give them a chance to catch up next school year.

so, what cha think?

angie in kc
---------------------------end quoted material---------------------

i think that would work. my email acct is at work and i often don't
have time to read/skim the digests but for twice a week.

a terrif idea, angie!

sampai jumpa (indonesian for "see ya later!")

rahadyan

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date:         fri, 17 may 1996 11:02:00 edt
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subject:      ig interview 2/94 (long)

found this on the ig newsgroup, and thought
the ig list would like to see it.

newsgroups: alt.music.indigo-girls
subject: digging through the files...
date: 16 may 1996 19:43:16 -0700

i made a mention to someone tonight about digging around to find an
answer about amy's tattoo. well during my search of stuff from a little
over two years ago i came across the transcript of the interview
conducted on modern rock live before so came out. hope this answers a
question or two some might have about the girls. enjoy...

max...

btw.. i'm still looking for the tattoo info...
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modern rock live, 21 february 1994

tc(dj): how did you get involved with the philadelphia soundtrack?

ar: somebody in the company pitched us to jonathan demme as artists who
might want to be involved and he was interested wanted us to write a song
and a few days later called us back with an old song he wanted us to do.

tc: did you see the movie before you performed the song?

ar: no, but we knew the contact and felt we wanted to be involved; it was a
good thing to bring to the mainstream

tc: did you like the movie?

ar: yeah.

tc: are you sad that it wasn't nominated for an academy award?

ar: i'm not surprised (giggle/laugh).

tc: when's your record coming out?

es: end of april

tc: what's it called?

es: swamp ophelia and you may ask.

tc: how'd you do that?

ar: we're having a big discussion about it because i thought it was the
name of a plant. i was at a nature preserve walking around and i saw a
plant named s.o., like a nickname for it, but we haven't been able to
locate that plant.

es: we think it's all a dream right now. we think amy just dreamed it up
and i was like "sure amy, swamp ophelia, it's a plant, cool. we'll name
the record that."(both laugh)

ar: it's kind of a hamlet thing.

es: swampy hamlet.

tc: how many songs are going to be on it? give us some insights.

es: it's got 11 songs on it.  kind of a free-for-all kitchen sink creative
process.  we got a lot of performances from players who play a specific
instrument.  like for example lisa germano who is known for playing with
john mellencamp, played violin but she also played mandolin and so we
picked players and had them play instruments that they weren't necessarily
virtuosos on and got some really cool parts.  it's got a lot of that
spirit, sort of off the cuff.  then we brought in some local talented
people like michael lorant.

tc: is there anyone you have ever wanted to perform with that you haven't
been able to due to scheduling or death?

ar: death, maybe death.

es: death, yeah i don't want to play with death.

ar:  we've gotten to play with a lot of people that we've wanted to play
with.  there's a lot of local people in atlanta that we have always felt
really strongly about wanting to play with.  people don't always know who
they are but that'd be great to incorporate them into a record and we've
actually  been able to do that especially on this record.

tc: you still call atlanta your home?

ar&es: yes.

tc: we're going to go back and listen to galileo.

(played studio version of galileo)

tc: do you like listening back to your stuff?

es: it's funny, that song seems so old now; it was like two years ago.
when you make a new record you become so immersed in what you're doing.

tc: would you change that at all?

ar: no, that's a good mix. we like that

(commercials)

kelly of glen ellyn: i was wondering how and when you guys figured out
that this was what you wanted to do with for the rest of lives and the
point at which you realized it was actually happening for you?

tc: have you figured it out yet, even?

es:  we're still wondering.  we started playing together in high school,
1981 then we played together all through college and we had started to
build a grass roots following.  i was actually thinking of going to grad
school and being a teacher and amy was out beating the pavement and doin'
all the hard work.  she gave me an ultimatum and it came down to "are you
going to do this or are you going to do that?"  and so at that point we
made the decision to actually commit to it as a career.

tc: did the name come right out of the bat?

ar: actually we were called a really silly name, the b band. i can't
remember why. and then saliers and ray, then indigo girls.

tc: what was the first song you guys wrote?

ar: um, well i wrote a song when i was 11 called benny, the penny, and i.

es: i wrote a song called didn't they know the people when i was 8.

tc: so we'll save that for the box set, right?

ar: definitely

tc: now this is her name, mary jean sunshine of nyc.

mjc: you weren't supposed to say that. that's my real name. amy, i heard
you went electric for this new album and i was wondering what influenced
that decision.

ar: what happened

mjc: and whether you liked the change.

ar: i didn't really go electric. i wrote one song on electric guitar and
we both recorded that on electric instruments with a drummer and bass
player. on one other song i played an electric lead in. i'm still
completely attached to the acoustic guitar.

mjc: emily, i heard you say something about your music having new meaning
since your turned 30 and i was wondering if you would elaborate.

es: i think what i was talkin' about was just where these songs came from.
and it was just more about getting you get more philosophical as you get
older and it was just about my place having turning 30 and learning a few
things about life and that's where my songs came from. so that's probably
what i was referring to, but who knows though.

charlie: when will ig be on tour again especially around here?

ar: we are going to start touring the states probably about mid june. we
will definitely be hitting the providence area for sure. we're going to
play everywhere and you won't be able to get rid of us because we'll be on
tour for a long time.

tc: and you'll probably be singing this song on tour, i don't wanna know.

ar: probably this year we will. it's an old song from our first album in
1987 that we put out independently

(studio version of i don't wanna know)

dale in albany: a lot of your music seems to come from personal places.
is it hard to get up on stage and sing that, to sort of bare your soul to
the world?

ar: for me it's easy.  it's probably easier for me to do from stage than
from somewhere else.  there's a security you get from being on stage.  and
i think our listeners, i feel like we share and it's cool and i don't mind
being vulnerable to that.  what do you think emily?

es: i agree with you. i think it's something that we've never thought
about and we write songs about the things that we think about and obviously
we think about things that are attached to our personal lives and so we
just sing about them. it 's just a very un-thought-about thing.

tc: you have a very intense fan base. they travel around to see you.

ar: it's great, nice.

tc:do you recognize people as you go to each city?

ar: sure

evonne in chicago: what do you think is the best way to get a pick out of
an acoustic guitar? do you go with like a shaking method or do you guys
use more like the sliding method.

ar: this is a good question. it's a scientific thing. well, i first do a
sliding thing to get it right between the two wood pieces on the back of
the guitar right over the sound hole then i tip it over real quick and it
pops right out. what do you do emily?

es: i do like little shakes, like little tiddly wink little hops and get it
in between the two things then i flip it real fast.

tc: has that happened to you on stage before?

es&ar: no

es: even if it did we wouldn't try to get it out. 30 minutes later.

mindy: who were your main musical inspirations?

es: umm for me really joni mitchell was the main one. joni mitchell and
bob dylan.

ar: i think for me neil young and i guess bob dylan and a little bit of
late billy holiday and rickie lee jones and some of that stuff.

tc: how does the songwriting process go?

ar: well, we write individually. usually i write really late at night and
i write a lot at once and just kind of let it all come out, stream of
consciousness and then in the morning i decide what it is all about.

es: i write during the day, usually with a cup of tea or coffee and i sorta
write my songs like an english paper, always censoring and building around
a theme and stuff like that. it's very structured. it's a control issue i
think.

tc: do you feel comfortable with each other now to say "that's not a good
song" to each other or do you kinda say "that's all right?"

ar: well we never say "that's not a good song."  i think because songs are
pretty much what they are.  but we feel comfortable.  emily's given me some
excellent ideas and she can ask me something and i can reflect upon it,
maybe help her weed out something.  we're a partnership in that way in that
we can bring our songs to each other and fine tune them.

sandra in chicago: i like southland and hammer the most. what is the
general message of hammer and a nail?

es: that's a song about trying not to think too much and putting your
thoughts into action. it's pretty basic and simple and i use the rodin
thinker, chin in your hand, image. it's like getting away from that and
getting the hammer and the nail and getting into action and trying not to
be overwhelmed by the problems but to take part in the solution.

jason: what are your religious preferences since your lyrics are very
indecisive and elusive about religion especially in secure yourself and
prince of darkness.

ar: i think they're ambivalent at any rate.  for me i'm a very spiritual
person.  i'm more involved in the spirituality of nature.  i believe in a
god but i don't have a specific doctorine anymore.  i've taken a lot from
different faiths that i believe are very valid things for me to live my
life so they come out in my songs sometimes.

es: well i grew up as a methodist really but i go to this really cool
church at, well i won't say where but anyway i go to this really cool
church

ar: and the address is.....

es: i keep forgetting. and here's my phone number...... no, i mean i was
brought up christian, but i guess i wouldn't be called a true
fundamentalist christian because i don't believe that you have to believe
in jesus to go to heaven and stuff like that. but i believe in god and
spirituality is very important to my life and it comes out in the songs.
we try not to discriminate.

tc: what was your growing up as religion in the household. was it
something that you were encouraged find out for yourself.

ar: well we went to church every sunday.  i grew up protestant.  but within
my house we were encouraged very much to explore.  i had relatives that are
ministers and stuff like that.  at my church we were encouraged to explore
so i do give them credit for that.

es: my dad's a minister so obviously we grew up in the church but he's a
very liberal thinker and a firm believer in the beauty of the
judeo-christian tradition and he by no means thinks that one faith is more
important than another. so i grew up with that. both my mom and dad
believe those things.

tc: are your families psyched about your success?

ar: sure.

es: yeah they're very supportive. they were there when there were only
two people in the audience and we used to have call them up and ask them to
come down. they've been there the whole time.

ar: it's true.

hope in new orleans: i'm a young singer, just produced my own album. have
you found it harder to be a woman in the industry than say a man?

ar: well, we always talk about this together.  i think that it's hard to be
woman in the world in general.  i don't think it's so hard that it's hurt
us .  i don't think it's handicapped us.  i think we've been able  to
overcome a lot of things.  i won't say there not discrimination.  i think
you have to constantly keep in mind that you're an individual and be proud
of your self.  your appearance and what you wear should not be the
important things.  just prove yourself without overcompensating.

laura in denver: i want to be a songwriter, but people laugh it off when
you tell them that. what advice do you have?

es:  the first thing that comes to my mind is to just write from your heart
and to do it not really thinking about where it's going to take you, or
professionally or anything like that just start from what you truly believe
and write in your own style and don't let anyone get you down.  you should
always create as you want to create.  and then professionally if that's
what you want to do.  i don't know if you want to perform but we were firm
believers in playing in a lot of clubs and just constantly playing music
just for the fun of it and things sort of happened naturally.  so we're
sort of in that zen school of thought about where music will take you.

ar: yeah it's not like you have to aspire to be a songwriter. you are one.
if you write songs you are one. you don't have to worry about it.

es: be happy about it.

ar: go out and play as many talent nights as you can.

tc: thanks for spending the time with us.

ar: thanks

es: thanks y'all

tc: please come back in a couple months when the new record is out and
bring guitars and play for us again.

ar: we will. we will.

tc: the name of the new record is...

ar&es: swamp ophelia

tc: (snicker/giggle). it'll be in record stores hopefully sometime this spring.

ar&es: yup

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at 01:23 am 5/17/96 edt, tracy wrote:
a pretty danged nifty add on to my ridiculous ala' weird al parody :- )
( we'll be recording this july... need some back up sangers tough... any
takers? )
then she tapped:
>all flaming can be directed to kim!!! (besides, she's got those nifty
asbestos >undies (so she says) mine are still on backorder...)
just wanted to add that y'all might be interested in getting yerself some of
these... they're fully lined in cotton ( because asbestos chaffs you so... )
all the internet people are wearing them these days... do it now... yer
butt'll thank you. the e-mail address for these flame retardent wonders is:
cvermybut@http://www.im.only.jkng.html
peace + pyro protective panties ( shorts for the more "manly" out there... )
kim.

<kim fischer>
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****************************************
when you learn to love yourself, you will
disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
****************************************

hello everyone,

      i got my copy of jcs from rdr recently. i watched it last night
and thought i'd post a few comments.
      first of all i want to say that these are just my feelings and
views.
      when i put this into the vcr i had no clue what to expect. i did
read the info about this on the web but still wasn't sure what i was
going to see.
ok... here it goes...
      to me, i felt this was incredibly strange. it looked like a lot of
the cast were out of their element. like they felt uncomfortable.
the music/songs <except jcs> a and e sung sounded like they just didn't
fit. the melodies seemed awkward for them. it's probably because i'm not
used to hearing them do anything like this i guess.
also, the costumes seemed strange. i am sorry but i just didn't like
seeing em in that dress and with her hair up. and, the makeup... wow.
i also noticed michael had on a pair of jeans with a hole in the crotch.
i had to giggle. i think there was a guy in a karate suit, too.
everytime i saw a in a jacket, it looked like she really wanted to get it
off. i think when she changed into her jeans and tee she loosened up a
lot.
      i had trouble making out the lyrics also. i could hear a & e's
alright but some of the others i couldn't. and, the relevance of some of
the skits made me questionable. in re... the scene where a is holding
that dunkin' donuts cup and the guy is dunkin' his donut. i thought, what
is this and how is this relevant. <i just want to throw in that i am not
trying to criticize, i really want to understand>.
      i do want to say that i really enjoyed the camera time on a. seeing
her in this gave me another view of her. and that i cherish.
      well, that's about it for now. i'm pretty curious to the responses
i may get on this one. and, flame if you must but i'd rather be
enlightened.

note: they rocked at the end with jcs.
another note: someone posted, who is allen page. did anyone know?

kim

at 10:49 pm 5/16/96 -0400, angie wrote (about the former "song of the day"
thread) :
>since a majority of the newer ig fans were introduced to the girls by the
>cd swamp ophelia, i thought that beginning next week we should revise the
>list to make it song of the week, beginning with fugitive, and going on
>through to this train.
absolutely ( franny!!! ) i think that this is an excellant idea... i missed
a lot of the songs over the past month or so because i was busy ( uh *huh* )
or something that day... consider this my vote for angie's plan... here's to
monday + a new start w fugitive! ( i'm already cognizin' on it ) :- )
peace y'all... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
****************************************
when you learn to love yourself, you will
disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
****************************************

sorry for taking up the bandwith, but susan woo, if you're out there,
could you please mail me .......i seemed to have lost your email, and i'm
trying to confirm which p boot it is i'm supposed to be com ack!! copying
for you. sorry!

cylinda

in a message dated 96-05-17 12:00:00 edt,kim writes:

>and, the relevance of some of
>the skits made me questionable. in re... the scene where a is holding
>that dunkin' donuts cup and the guy is dunkin' his donut. i thought, what
>is this and how is this relevant. <i just want to throw in that i am not
>trying to criticize, i really want to understand>.

this was representitive of the mocking of christ....the "guards" or cops
(to use a colloquial term) were playing out the stereotypical 'policeman
eating doughtnuts theme' and mocking the one who would be the
'son of god ' ('offspring of god ' :)

very clever if you ask me...the whole production was full of clever bits like
that, which made it a real feast to watch.

i saw the shows that they did in seattle and my observation is that the
seattle shows were a little more 'together"... the performers were really
in sync with one another.... also, the make up and costumes were
more detailed in seattle..like they had gotten more ideas in between
shows...especially ciaphas and herod and pilate...their make-up
and costumes were tremendous in seattle.....

i liked what they did w/emily... i think it was important to radicalize
her costume and make up in order to separate her strong
recognizable 'image' as an 'indigo girl' from the character she was
playing....

as for amy and the coat......the point was to be uncomfortable in it.
simon zealots was grooming her for leadership in a way that 'jesus'
was most definitely uncomfortable with.....nice touch :)

well..... binky explains it all :)
ta !
binkster
(drama junkie and former stage manager, it was fun, i should do it again :)

was just re-reading the info on jcs and it says that allen page
was the drummer for opal foxx quartet...

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subject:      (nigc) shawn colvin coming to nc (june 26)

saw in the local paper that shawn colvin is scheduled to appear
in winston-salem, nc on june 26 at ziggy's. (i realize the vast
majority of the list is nowhere near nc, but for those of us
within reasonable traveling distance might have some interest.)
ticket prices are $10.

since i live w-s, i'd be happy to meet up with any ig-l folks
who would like to come to see sc. email me privately to work out
the details.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      (nigc) pete seeger

i was listening to npr on my way to work yesterday and pete seeger was
the focus of one segment. he has a new studio album out. he mentioned
a cartoon he has on his wall, whose caption i enjoyed.

it's a cartoon of a woman, appearing frazzled and at her wit's end.
a very young child is screaming/bawling/crying and clutching to the
hem of her dress. she's on the telephone and the caption reads:

"no, he's not here. he's out saving oppressed people."

as i was chuckling about this cartoon, i got to thinking of the igs
and all the work they do for various causes and wondered if the people
in their lives often feel this way.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      ig coming to minneapolis

yes, they will be coming to northrup auditorium... we are fortunate ones...

the dates are september 20 and 21st. the shows are a benefit for the
indigenous women's network, but there won't be a backstage reception this
year.

i don't know if northrup tickets are on sale yet, but tix are available
through a club called ava special events. i think you may have to join ava
to purchase tickets through them. if you are interested call (612) 673-9230
and ask for arlana. tell her you heard abouth them through connie on the
internet.

see you there!
- connie

as a lurker to this board i'm finally speakin' up and hopeing you all
will give a listen..i've already "begged" to amy and emily via russell so
now i'm coming to you..on july 1-6 i'm riding in the twincities/chicago
aides ride..a national fundraiseing event to raise $ for aids..its a 450
mile bike ride in the hot july sun over the course of 6 days..heres the
catch..in order to ride , each rider must raise $2300..thats where you
come in..as of may 13th i managed to raise $800 from the indigo girls
folder on aol..now i'm asking you..if everyone could donate as little as
$15 (or as much as you like) i could meet my pledge..this is no scam..i
had to pay to enter, pay for publicity, pay to get me to minn. pay to get
my bike there and pay for accomidations for the first night..absolutelty
none of the money goes to the riders. iyfyou e-mail me an address, i'll
mail you a form whichyou mail back to the agency..
i know no one has alot of money but c'mon, if we can pay for bootlegs,
and cross country tix to see the girls, thenwe can reach a little deeper
and come up with $20 tocure aids..what is it
that emily says"  my life is part of the global life
                  i'd found myself becoming more immobile
                  when i think a little girl in the world
                  can't do anything.
                  a distant nation my community
                  a street person my responsibilty
                  if i have a care in the world i have a gift to bring."
well,,ya'll can do this with me..please think about it
sorry for taking up the space, but i don't think either emily or amy
would mind.
pooh

ey everyone,
my account had troubles this week and i lost a bunch of messages. if anyone
who i'm trading with or whatever tried to email me, i probably didn't get it.
so try me again.
thanks!

happy day,
jennie

hey y'all, i have a favor to ask
    some big meanie stole my swamp ophelia t-shirt from where it was drying in
the laundry room of my house at school.  this was my absolute favorite t-shirt,
it was the mauve-ish one with the beautiful silk screen on the front and the
dragon-fly and the words "swamp ophelia" on the back.  if anyone knows where
i can find one of these t-shirts, i would be very very grateful and happy.
i know indie record stores sometimes sell old concert t-shirts, but i haven't
been able to find one around here.

thanks for taking the time to read this.

happy day,
jennie

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subject:      strange fire liner

does anyone know who (individually) the people are in the picture on
the inside of the sf liner? just currious. i read somewhere that it
was taken in the little five points pub.

anna

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subject:      nov. 1989 review of ig

here's another interesting article i found in the files of lifeblood.
"well, there's always retrospect to light a clearer path..." (es)

anna
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
november 1989
audio magazine
indigo girls

sound: b+
performance: b-

elliptical lyrics, off-kilter harmonies, and more haunting regret
than a flannery o'conner story:  you can take all that two ways on
this major-label, self-titled debut by the folkish duo of amy ray and
emily saliers.  after several listens, i'm still undecided as to
whether these ingredients mean "indigo girls" is obtuse or abstruse.
i'm assuming the latter, since ray and saliers sing, talk, ache, and
rage their lyrics so proudly and passionately that the meanings must
be clear to them - if to no one else.  (this from a t.s. eliot buff
who's managed to decipher as much of "the waste land" as the next
guy.)  lines like "feeding the cancer of my intellect the blood of
love soon neglected" would be at home, i think, in any college
coffeehouse. not to say the subject matter isn't depressingly
grown-up.  the raucous, rocking "closer to fine" is about the path to
self-discovery - through gurus, aimless wanderings, analysts, and
other touchstones.  "love's recovery" is an elegy to friends lost as
we grow older and apart.  "kid fears" is an adult's wistful lament
for the days of simpler, more innocent monsters.  the songs are all
so heartfelt i could puke. actually, no, i like heartfelt.  i think
it's because indigo girls are so humorless and pained.  every other
song has a preoccupation with spilt blood.  aside from the previously
mentioned excerpt (from "love's recovery"), the lyric protagonist
says her "blood is running dry" ("land of canaan"), her heart has
"bled upon my sleeve" ("prince of darkness"), and "in the ink of an
eye" (whatever that is), she "saw you bleed" ("secure yourself").
why doesn't it surprise me to find a song titled "blood and fire"?
this thematic sameness is partially redeemed by ray and saliers'
often beautiful delivery of their hard-edged, unusual voices and by
songwriting high-dives that don't give a damn about am radio.  once
they get past this whiny, bloody stage, indigo girls should have a
lot to say.  with any luck, they'll learn from the album's
interminable closer, "history of us,"  and not keep going on with
their point after they've made it over and over and over and ov...

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subject:      nigc- in love?

    hi. my name is liz. i'm a new member. this going to sound like an odd
request-- but believe me, i'm not a psycho!
    i'm currently working on a project about romance in computer mediated
communications. i'm interested in discovering the rhetoric of love between
people who meet in listserves. i know it sounds funny but research is
extremely limited in this area; it seems that !sex! plays the highest
priority in journal entries today. i want to uncover the possible intimacy of
computer relationships. i choose your group because i believe the indigo
girls are great and attract a sincere and personable crowd.
    so, has anyone fallen in love through this list? if you have, and like to
contribute to my research, please e-mail me back. it'd be a lot of fun and a
great help to me.
    thanks for time- liz.

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on fri, 17 may 1996, nancy humphries wrote:

> i was listening to npr on my way to work yesterday and pete seeger was
> the focus of one segment. he has a new studio album out. he mentioned
> a cartoon he has on his wall, whose caption i enjoyed.

pete seeger has a new album out??  i"m shocked - i thought he was barely
singing these days - the last few times i've seen him he's been really
taking a back seat.  do you have any other info on the album (like,
what's on it, title, etc)?  i grew up on pete seeger and love this stuff.

- elizabeth :)

ps - liked the cartoon a lot too - thanks for describing it.

tracy! kim!!!!!

i love this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
:)
more!!!!!!!!!!

another pointless post by
r
i
c
k
a flame-free joe.

*every tool is a weapon if you hold it right*
that's what it says on the t-shirt i ordered from righteous babe records
that i got in the mail today with bestill my beating heart- dilate!!!!!!!!!
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!
ohmigosh! i think i have a crush on ani....weird... ;)

i don't think this has been posted yet, and i know i've got a lot of fellow
dar fans out there. here's where she'll be in the near future (check out where
she'll be on 6/9!), so go see her if you get the chance. you won't be
disappointed! :)

lorindigo

dar williams from five to seven tour
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5/30 houston, tx
mcgonigle's mucky duck 713-528-5999
8 & 10 pm
sender: owner-dar-announce@pobox.com
precedence: bulk
reply-to: tom neff <tneff@panix.com>

5/31 carrollton (dallas), tx
the plaza theater 214-242-5454
(rayn opens)
8:00 pm

6/2 kerrville, tx
the kerrville folk festival 210-257-3600
3:00pm - ballad tree. 6:00pm - mainstage

6/4 & 6/5 austin, tx
the cactus cafe 512-471-8228
(no opener)
9:00 pm

6/8 st. petersburg, fl
the state theater 813-239-1222
(kevin conolly opens)
8:00 pm

6/9 decatur, ga
eddie's attic 404-377-4976
(greg greenway opens)
7:00pm - all ages, no smoking.
9:00 pm - 21+, smoking.

6/10 asheville, nc
be here now 704-258-2071
(greg greenway opens)
8:00 pm

6/11 greenville, sc
the handlebar 803-233-6173
(tory voodoo opens)
8:00 pm

6/13 alexandria, va
the birchmere 703-549-5919
(bill parsons opens)
8:00 pm

6/14 wilmington, de
the grand opera house 302-682-5577
co-bill with holly near (dar on first)
8:00 pm

6/15 columbia, pa
columbia folk festival 717-684-5249
2:00 pm

6/16 valhalla, ny
great hudson river revival 914-454-7673

6/29 burlington, vt
contois auditorium 802-864-5888
8:00 pm

7/5 boulder, co
kbco/cherry creek arts fest.
mid-day

7/6 lowell, ma
boarding house park 508-934-4444
(w/john gorka)
9:00 pm

7/7 northampton, ma
iron horse 413-586-8686
7:00 pm (with possible 10pm show if 7 sells out fast)

7/10 s. orange, nj
flood's hill park 201-378-7754
8:00 pm

7/11-14 birds hill park, manitoba
winnipeg folk festival

7/19 nyc, ny
the bottom line 212-228-6300
("in their own words" series
w/ferron, others t.b.a.)
7:30 & 10:30pm

... also coming up: cambridge (uk), edmonton, owens sound, rocky mtn. folk
fests, mi womyn's music festival, philadelphia folk festival.. and more!

always call ahead to make sure the date's still on, that the time is correct
and whether or not there are tickets still available.

the most up-to-date schedule is always available through dar's world wide
web page: http://www.panix.com/~tneff/dar/

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subject:      nigc- in love?

hey bert, i forgot to mention that i love your quote! did you write it?

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subject:      nigc- in love?

bert, thanks for responding. it's true (and perhaps sad for you) that on this
listserve many women prefer women, but for the purposes of my research
same-sex relationships apply as well.
i'm just interested in seeing how people communicate with each other during
the courtship before meeting in person. it seems that your experiences with
on line romance-- although you felt were inadequate-- would be interesting
for my research. at this point, information is sparce. i'd love to hear
about it! thanks again for responding, liz.

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=c3y=d6=db=d7=dc=dd_=c3n6

=09~some chick says/thank you for saying all the things i never do/i
=09say/the thanks i get is to take all the shit for you/it's nice that
=09you listen/it'd be nicer if you joined in/as long as you play their
=09game girl/you're never going to win...~ =20
=09=09 -=3dani difranco=3d-

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subject:      ig in minneapolis

yes, ig is coming to northrup auditorium! we are fortunate ones...
it is a benefit for indigenous womens network, but no reception
following. the dates are september 20 and 21st.

i don't know when northrup will be selling tickets, but they are available
now through ava special events. i think you have to become a member to
purchase tickets through this agency. if you do, ask for arlana and tell
her connie sent you. their number is (612) 673-9230. these are the same
people who ran the honor the earth benefit at northrup last time.

btw, does anyone have a phone number for daemon records?

see you at the concert,
- connie

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subject:      re: (advocate), congratulations, and sarah

at 01:15 pm 5/12/96 -0400, you wrote:

hi guys!

hooray!  this is my first *actual* post (not counting my introduction a few
days ago) and i just wanted to say that i have thoroughly enjoyed the
conversations so far.  there are so many wonderful people on this list -- it
is terrific that the music of the indigo girls has brought us all together.
thanks so much for making me feel welcome.  :)

could somebody let me know what the advocate is? i gather it is a magazine
of some sort, but of what genre? (umm...music maybe? <grin>) i too, like
ani difranco and a magazine which mentions her, and what's more, has amy
reviewing her album, must be excellent!

on second thought -- i should have reworded that to look like this:

a magazine which has amy reviewing, and what's more, she reviews the new
album of ani difranco, must be excellent!

there, that's better! :)

for all of those who inquired as to the mailing list of the sublime sarah
mclachlan, send your subscription to listserv@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au if that
doesn't work, let me know and i'll double check the info.

can you imagine the trio of amy, emily and sarah? wow.

with that glorious thought,
sincerely,
lisa j. :)

*my apologies to the list for including all of the "replying to" message
below. i haven't figured out how to delete big chunks of posts as of yet.
using the delete key takes about a bizillion years.  (okay, not
quite...<laugh>)  is there a faster way?
>man !!!
>
>thanks for bringing that review to our attention !!!
>i have long thought that ray has a uinique and insightful
>perspective into music and the music business !!! and a review of
>ani difranco to boot !!!
>
>what i liked about it is that ray analyzed the music in a
>thoughtful and thorough manner..rather than think of how
>many clever insults or superlatives she could use to constitute
>a music review (as too many journalists do these days
>*although that practice is nothing new*).
>
>as a music connoiseur, i found the review to be a useful
>aid in appreciating that particular work...i particularly like the
>way she got into describing different instuments and passages
>and songs . very nice !
>
>kudos to the advocate for inlisting ray's expertise in music.
>first janis ian (whos column alone is worth the price of the
>magazine!) , now amy ray ! life is good ! i hope to see more
>of her written work gracing the pages of the advocate ! i don't
>know about you all... but i really think that she is a major
>voice in music today....she speaks to that pure part of music that
>is overlooked by the profit driven industry. we need to have
>her voice heard !!!
>
>(i inadvertently let my subscription run out but i re-ordered last week..
>i hope i get this issue !!!!)
>
>love,
>binky
>
>"in heart, i am an american artist, and i have no guilt."
>(patty smith)
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subject:      real live igc content from the tracy one <call cnn!>

hey y'all -
        okay - i can't take it one more moment!!  blame this lack of knowledge on my never being really "into" mr. dylan...  what the heck is the lyric in "tangled up in blue" that follows:
        "split up on a sad dark night with a ________?_________ "
this has been driving me nuts since 12k came out,  need to know so i can better off-key warble in the car, you understand.  hopefully the better-educated in dylan 101 can help me out?  i'm sure that would be most of y'all, eh?  thanks in advance and all that....

take good care, everyone!
tracy <still wearing the ig-l bag over my head... making me rather a hazard on the roads...>

ps suddenly came to realize that w/ e, i sometimes have trouble *hearing* what the lyric is... yet with a its the "translation" i have more trouble with... hmmmm... as a confirmed card-carrying a-person, what dya' closet shrinks think this means?*
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*       sincere woofs -- tracy weeks
*                               and the beast patrol:
*                true, holly da' bear, & molly (et. al)
*
*     *family* has nothing to do with who sleeps with whom...
*        it has everything to do with *belonging* ...
*               and everything to do with commitment."
*                        -kim(digo) fischer (w/ permission)

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subject:      (nigc) bandwidth.... educate me.

hey all... just wondering here <and planning on hiding behind all ya's=
wearing the asbestos undies, as i **know** i am going to get in deep with=
the following.. ohhhh kim?  you around here someplace? can i stand behind=
you for a bit 'till the sparks cool....?>
        here's my wonderin':
                those who seem irritated/irked/bugged/<insert preferred word=
here> by the "waste of bandwidth"  confuse me....  i understand that *some*=
accounts apparently limit how much stuff (lines? pages?) one can recieve,=
right?  well, then these accounts must not be really set up (intended?) for=
mailing lists in general, correct? can't ya' just get a different provider?=
  (i have no problem w/ being told i am wrong and being educated, so feel=
free...)  what i do not understand, is why anyone can feel the "power to=
interpret" what is a **waste** and what is not... especially for (as we=
have been reminded) several many lotsa' other people.... so where is the=
line that should be drawn???? i certainly do not want to be the one to=
choose....  as y'all are mighty sick of reading from me, i really enjoy all=
the content here (and on the other lists i receive), and maybe it is my=
failing that i cannot recognize the problem...  so teach me.  i mean, to my=
knowledge there is no amorphous "lifetime limit" on the bandwidth that i=
can send or receive, so "wasting" it seems like an odd thing to be upset=
about.   heck - being a bleeding liberal wanna-be granola type, i would=
rather recycle it!!! ha ha?   <ducking>
        summary - the tracy here enjoys the common interests and=
social-stuff of this list, brought together by the indigo girls.   period. =
i don't have to agree with you or have the same sense of humor or enjoy the=
same "other" artists as you do, to enjoy the exchange of thoughts.  isn't=
that a major point of communicating anyhow? besides, to slip into a little=
bit of reality - when the igs are on a sort of "sabbatical year" , should=
we then shut down the list?  i hope not.  (official announcement - none=
above intended as anything "personal" against anyone, kay?"
        aren't y'all sorry, now, that this came up?  look at all the=
bandwidth i have wasted... <tsk tsk tsk>  tell ya' what - just slip yer=
plate under your table and the dog can eat it all for you.  there. =
nothing's wasted now.  <g>

tracy <looking around frantically for the asbesto-ed one.....>
<and also turning off my sig for this time in order=
to try to appease the irked ones a little>

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subject:      thanks y'all!! (re: tangled up in blue lyric)

i knew i could count on you!!!  "both agreeing it was best" is great songwriting! (imo - not humble, i'm just plain right this time!) cool!!  thanks!
tracy <now looking forward to her daily 45 minute to work drive tomorrow... warble!>*
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*                               and the beast patrol:
*                true, holly da' bear, & molly (et. al)
*
*     *family* has nothing to do with who sleeps with whom...
*        it has everything to do with *belonging* ...
*               and everything to do with commitment."
*                        -kim(digo) fischer (w/ permission)

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subject:      re: real live igc content from the tracy one <call cnn!>

in a message dated 96-05-18 00:13:22 edt, clumber9@alliance.net (tracy weeks
et. al.) writes:

> "split up on a sad dark night with a ________?_________ "

ah!!! i know!!!! :)

split up on a sad dark night
both agreeing it was best
& she turned around & looked at me
as i was walking away
i heard her say over my shoulder
okay they get the point rick, shut up

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subject:      re: (advocate), congratulations, and sarah

in a message dated 96-05-17 23:49:51 edt, jacksond@uoguelph.ca (david
jackson) writes:

>
>could somebody let me know what the advocate is? i gather it is a magazine
>of some sort, but of what genre? (umm...music maybe? <grin>) i too, like
>ani difranco and a magazine which mentions her, and what's more, has amy
>reviewing her album, must be excellent!
>
>

welcome lisa!!!!! :) :) :)

*the advocate is a gay/lesbian/un-narrow straight persons magazine! the issue
with the ani review has sharon stone on the cover (looking pretty damn good,
to me... maybe i have some sorta 24-hour bug that's ...nevermind.) ahem.
there's also an issue with a rad interview/article/picture, but i can't
remember which one. anybody else?

*sarah mclachlan is wonderful!! :) but i just can't get into her mailing list
much. it never seems as interesting/friendly/goofy as our lovely ig list. :)

*ani's new album is excellent!!!!!!!!!!!! i just finished giving it my first
listen. wow. "untouchable face" is the perfect song for ani to have released
right now. perfect for me at least. aaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!! (scream of
excitement, happiness, joy).

*that's it i think.

r
i
c
k
a flame-free joe.

*too bad you have a better half
she's really not my type
but i think you two are forever
and i hate to say it
but you're perfect together*
-a.d.
thank god!

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date:         fri, 17 may 1996 23:37:47 +0000
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hey everyone...

sorry about this sinister post, my modem totally freaked out, and it=20
started...well...you know what i mean...

on fri, 17 may 1996, kristen jenkins wrote:

> =c3y=d6=db=d7=dc=dd_=c3n6
>=20
> =09~some chick says/thank you for saying all the things i never do/i
> =09say/the thanks i get is to take all the shit for you/it's nice that
> =09you listen/it'd be nicer if you joined in/as long as you play their
> =09game girl/you're never going to win...~ =20
> =09=09 -=3dani difranco=3d-
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in a message dated 96-05-17 23:49:51 edt, you write:

<< can you imagine the trio of amy, emily and sarah? wow.
>>

yeah, i think we'd be incredible! =)

(sorry, i really had to...)

peace, love, a&e, sarah

that review is a great example of what i ment
when i commented on the reviewer worrying
more about being clever that giving a good critique of the work.
unlike the cogent thoughtfull review by that ray girl :)

more reviews by folks like amy ray is what i say

binky

after musing, and watching the jcs video...i was pondering
how a & e would fare as actors.
(seeing as how they'd also debuted in bots)

some musicians have made the crossover successfully
...harry connick jr. and cher come to mind, i've never
seen bob dylan in "pat garret and billy the kid" (?)
so i can't comment on that......but when i see chris issack or
willie nelson i can't seem to get through their 'persona as musicians'
to the character they are playing. i haven't seen the film
w/michael stipe yet, but i have the feeling that he is a natural
reba macentire was great in the "tremor's" !!!!!

after seeing jcs, i think that emily saliers has definite potential
as an actress...i think she would be quite good if she chose to
persue that disipline.

i am more hesitant about amy ray because, for one thing, i get the
feeling that she is uncomfortable with the idea of acting, and it seems
that her perfomances as a singer songwriter are really personally driven...
what she is showing us is the real thing rather than a representation
of a character, i think that this is at the core of her wide appeal...
nevertheless her personality/persona is of such a strong nature
that she would be quite compelling in the right film...i don't see her
in a main-stream film though.

i don't know what do you guy's think ?
(forgive me if this is an old subject :)

love,
binky
p.s. on a completely unrelated note...i noticed that the
rainy day records store in olympia had a daemon poster
for rock*a*teens prominantly displayed, as well as a growing
number of daemon artists carried by the store (i bought jcs
there when it came out...only place in town that carried it!)
when i bought rock*a*teens the young man at the counter
said "this is a really good cd !" (i feel so hip :)
i like it !!...but it makes me feel old :}

go ! go ! indie records !!!!!!!!!
eat the industry !!!

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 03:25:34 -0400
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subject:      glamas awards???

hi each of you!

i have never heard of these awards before -- are they widely publicized? is
this the only opportunity for the indigo girls to receive acclaim for their
magnificent music? i have yet to view the ig at *any* awards show.
hopefully, that will change in the near future. :)

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
**************************
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hey y'all ( the asbestosed one here )... :- )
at 03:13 am 5/18/96 -0400, claire wrote:
>after musing, and watching the jcs video...i was pondering
>how a & e would fare as actors.
>(seeing as how they'd also debuted in bots)
<hasty + fevered snipping noises, whilst muttering stuff about "band width"
+ wondering what on earth all *this* has to do with some obese musical group...>
>reba macentire was great in the "tremor's" !!!!!
oooohhhh... me, i agree... she was great. ( watch out! woman with a gun! ):-
)(trace)
i think that what claire said about the difference between e and a as
potential actors was interesting. of the two, e definately seems more
interested in putting forth a sense or feeling and showing you how it might
be if you were there.
a is so intense and puts out so much energy, however, that she just *might*
be right for certain parts ( barring the obvious... like rambo <sg> ). i
remember a discussion not so far back about a's seemingly effortless ability
to "slip into another's skin" ( ie the ability to blur the boundries between
the sexes with her lyrics in the song ywoj, ) so... hmmmm....
did anyone see the movie salmonberries w kd lang in it?... i was
dissapointed in a big way by the flick... but i think that kd wasn't so
bad... all *her* legendary intensity shone through in places. perhaps
there's a place like that ( with better directors etc :- ) ) for ar...
peace y'all... kim.
ps... i'd love to see a as "what's-her-nose doolittle ( it's early + i need
cofee ) in a remake of the musical my fair lady :- ) now *that* would be
fun... ohhh it's liza, right?... liza doolittle.... i'm sure the ending
would be differnt :- )
<kim fischer>
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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 06:55:04 -0700
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at 01:29 am 5/18/96 edt, tracy wrote:
>hey all... just wondering here <and planning on hiding behind all ya's
wearing the >asbestos undies, as i **know** i am going to get in deep with
the following.. ohhhh >kim? you around here someplace? can i stand behind
you for a bit 'till the sparks >cool....?>
right here, tracester... outfitted in my heavy duty acme asbestos coveralls,
army boots + matching pink tou-tou with many an outrageously flambouyant
accessory. feel free to gain shelter in my most ominous shadow, for i am kim
the asbestosed one, protector of all "prolific-posters"... righter of all
cyber wrongs.... defender of....
hmmm... perhaps i'd *better* have that coffee...
me too... someone please explain to me what exactly "band width" is? though
i use a computer all the time + do the internet thang... i am red faced to
admit, i have not a clue...
peace + protection... kim.
<kim fischer>
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happy birthday russ!!!

"...all those voices they whisper through my walls they talk of falling fast
they say i'm losing it all they say i'm running blind to a love of my own but
i'll be walking proud i'm saving what i still own..."

russ@dexmn.com
"nashville"
* :);)*

hey y'all!
does anyone know where i can get the lyrics to "chiapas bound" and the other
new song by amy, the political/mexico song? also, does anyone know anything
about amy's interest in mexico? at the end of the 5/4 show, before she left
the stage, she yelled out "mejico!"

thanks in advance,
rachel :)

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 10:23:36 edt
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subject:      another fan tour update

i found a cheaper hotel inside of newport and i reserved a block of rooms
there, but i have some concerns.  the name of the hotel is holiday's
pineapple inn and it is given only one star by the aaa book that i have.  the
cost for this hotel would be $120 per room per night/$30 per person per night
for friday & saturday nights and $80/$20 for sunday night, as opposed to the
best western in newport which was $160/$40 per night for all three nights.  i
am going to call the bw back on monday to get a cheaper rate for sunday
night.

does anybody know anything about either of these hotels.  the pineapple inn
was given one star while the best western was given two stars.  the bw seems
to have more facilities.  i currently have reservations at both, but i would
like some input to see which one i should go with.  while the pineapple inn
is cheaper, it doesn't seem cheaper enough, especially at the per person rate
to warrant a significant drop in quality.  let me know what you think.  i
would prefer to stay at the bw, but i will go with the majority rule.  again,
i need to act quickly on this, so if you are interested in participating,
e-mail me and send me your money asap (i need it by june 14 at the latest).
again, the name and address is:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016
(908)418-7115

talk to y'all soon.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

hello fellow listers ...

just a quick note to those who belong to columbia house ... if you are one of
those people (like me) who has to have every single little picture of a & e,
look in the full catalog they've mailed out in the latest order package ...
in the "rock" section there is a tiny picture on the top of one page and the
bottom of the next .. with em on the left side and amy on the right
(obviously a reversed negative) ... and the picture is in the rock section
while they are catagorized in "alternative" ... speaking of alternative they
also list kristen hall and k's choice (whatever happened to k's choice ??)
... and these others are also alternative (??? guess they don't have a folk
catagory anymore) -- nanci griffith, the roches and the story ... very
alternative :)

i'm goin' to newport !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! very cool line-up's
... joan armatrading, ani !!!!, lisa loeb (she's great live !), michelle
shocked ... and maura o'connell - saw her open for mcc a few years ago - very
cool/strong voice ... oh -- and those indigo girls are supposed to be pretty
good too !!!

chris

ps -- mcc will be in the new england area during nff ... think she'll show up
???? i'm seeing her aug. 15th in ct ... yipee
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 12:24:20 -0400
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subject:      re: (nigc) bandwidth...educate me.

although i don't think *anything* on this list is a waste of bandwidth, i
thought i'd share this definition:
bandwidth /n./

   1. used by hackers (in a generalization of its technical meaning) as
   the volume of information per unit time that a computer, person, or
   transmission medium can handle. "those are amazing graphics, but i
   missed some of the detail -- not enough bandwidth, i guess." compare
   low-bandwidth. 2. attention span. 3. on usenet, a measure of network
   capacity that is often wasted by people complaining about how items
   posted by others are a waste of bandwidth.
(from _the new hackers' dictionary_
<http://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_toc.html>)

kirsten

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 09:46:18 -0700
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subject:      re: real live igc content from the tracy one <call cnn!>
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the line from the original song was

split up on a dark sad night, both agreeing it was best.

--mike

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 11:16:01 pdt
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subject:      re: ig coming to minneapolis

some additional info:

i called ava. it's a fund raising group that is trying to promote sweet
honey in the rock and bring them out to minneapolis and other places around
the country. you do have to purchase a membership to buy the ig tickets
($60 to buy 1-2 tickets, $110 to buy 1-4 tickets). the tickets are $42.
they work with the show promoters and the seats are going to be anywhere
between row 1 and 15, center.

i do not know how this compares to what you can get directly from northrup.
northrup auditorium box office: 612-624-2345.
their hours are mo-fri 8:30am-5pm

see you there,

monique

>yes, they will be coming to northrup auditorium... we are fortunate ones...
>
>the dates are september 20 and 21st. the shows are a benefit for the
>indigenous women's network, but there won't be a backstage reception this
>year.
>
>i don't know if northrup tickets are on sale yet, but tix are available
>through a club called ava special events. i think you may have to join ava
>to purchase tickets through them. if you are interested call (612) 673-9230
>and ask for arlana. tell her you heard abouth them through connie on the
>internet.
>
>see you there!
>- connie
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hi everyone,

i'm pretty new to this list and have been taking it all in for the past few
days and now will be making my listserv debut....

chris posted that michelle shocked and others are playing in newport too.
are they supposed to play the same day as ig? i've only gotten tickets for
sunday : (

what's the deal?!

sheri

hey all,
i was a bit disappointed in the video as well. it was obviously very
experimental theatre-esque, but i think they would have done better to
set up some chairs and microphones and let the singers sing their
parts and not try to act. amy is incredible as jesus, imho. i loved
"simon" as well. whats her name? kelly hogan?
anyway, i like the interpretation and seeing a video with a & e but
agree that the staging left something to be desired...

jody

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 16:51:17 -0500
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subject:      nigc-talked to jen today

hi all-

well, i talked to jenny again today, and has she ever been excited to get
all the stuff you all have been sending. all she could talk about was
the huge stack of cards she has and all the incredibly nice things people
have written.

she's been to see different doctors "like 80 million times" but that they
finally took out all the staples and stitches that have been holding her arm
together, and that the skin graft took really well, meaning that her arm
is now held together completely on its own. the nerve graft should be in
another 2-3 weeks.

she said she was a bit cranky this morning, just because she can't really
do a bunch of things that used to be done without a second thought.
she's always been so independent, that i know having to depend on some
other people, at least for a little while, is going to be difficult. i
know how that feels, though, and that whole loss of control thing is
difficult to deal with. she'll make it through, though - she's way too
strong not to.

speaking of making it through, i e-mailed some people about this, and
thought i'd share.  on thursday, aaron and i went over to sheila's to
watch er, and afterwards, we had nis playing.  watershed came on, and it
came to that part about broken glass on the cement.  the three of us just
kind of looked at each other, got these huge grins on our faces, and sang
even louder.  yeah, things are going to be just fine.

jenny still has some people visiting and staying for the weekend and
stuff, and she said she really wants to take advantage of having visitors
while they are there.  it sounds like the house should be clearing out
this week, though, and she'll be getting to the computer soon enough.
aaron's going home for memorial day (poor schleps like me have to work =(
- oh well, such is life) so at least she'll be getting even more company.
she said she can't wait until we can all make it up this summer.  see,
we've been planning on having an ig night for a very long time, but for
various reasons were never able to have it.  with all the stuff she's
gotten, she said we're decking out in all our ig stuff and having a full
ig day with tapes and my guitar and everything.  i can't wait.

ok, finally, this is one last thank you to all the people who are sending
us to newport.  i really can't thank you all enough, and when trant sent
me that e-mail telling me what you all had done, i just couldn't stop
shaking.  no one has ever done anything that nice for me before, and when
i told sheila, she really flipped, and aaron just couldn't believe it.  i
was going to wait to tell jenny until i saw her, but i know her brother,
who she is very close to, is getting married in august, and i wanted to
make sure the family didn't have anything going on, or she didn't have
any long-range surgery plans or anything.  turns out her bro is getting
married the weekend before, and she flat out accused me of lying when
i said what you guys had done.  i told her that she knew i would never
lie about something like this, and she just said "oh man, dana, i
just have a total perma-grin right now"  she didn't have to tell me - you
can just tell. she was so overwhelmed she was actually speechless for a
while, which for jenny means she was really blown away.  once the shock
wore off, she just couldn't stop talking.   i mean, you all really have
lifted her up with everything you've sent, but this just really topped
it off.  it's going to be a long summer for her with surgeries and having
to live with her parents, and this really gives her something to look
forward to.  she even said how it was so cool you guys gave such a
horrible weekend a happy ending.

so, i can't thank you all enough. i'm sure you'll be able to pick us out
at newport - jenny will be the one with the big bandaged left arm. =)

thanks for making a difference in all of our lives-
dana

hey all,

just wanted to post a few details on ca at eddie's last night.

this was the first time i have ever seen her so i have to say that
i was really blown away by her stuff.

she played a 12-string, a 6-string and keys... her voice was strong
and clear. she had a good communication with the crowd. we all had a good
time. i did stay for both sets. they both were awesome. also, she had a
friend stop by and she went up solo. i forgot her name - laura maybe. she
sang and played a 6-string ovation. i did get to talk to ca after her 2nd
set when a lot of people left. she was really cool.
well that's it... thanks for reading...

kim

ok, so i'm spending my first relaxing, don't plan too much weekend in
about 7 weeks and figure a movie might be just the ticket. head off
to my favorite $1/movie rental place, pick up a copy of fried green
tomatoes (fgt) to enjoy it once more and see if i can pick up
something i may have not noticed before.

as i was watching the credits roll at the end, i noticed some mundane
stuff (lois smith, who plays helen hunt's aunt meg in "twister"
played mama threadgoode) and then noticed that the part of older
julian (idgie's brother who helps her take ruth away from frank
bennett) is played by an actor named haynes brooke.

is this the same haynes brooke who heads up the "new mongrels", which
i think both es & ar participated in (album: not dead yet)?

anyone? anyone?

melissa
"who may need more than a weekend's rest; perhaps a weekend at
bellevue is in order"

to the amy who wrote asking for a copy of the article.

i sent you a reply (requesting snail mail address), deleted the post
and exited mail. then the post i sent you got returned & i need your
address. pls email me privately if you want a copy of this article.

thanks,

melissa

hi! is there any possible way i can get a copy of the indigo girls' concert
schedule, or at least a listing of where and when they are playing in texas
and lousiana? it would be greatly appreciated. thanks so much!

jennifer vickers
1200 briarmeadow drive
beaumont, texas 7770-3836

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 21:59:31 -0400
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>binkster
>(drama junkie and former stage manager, it was fun, i should do it again :)

(you with the double decker r sided brain- i think the the more efficient
phrasing is.. with a l side, my life would be so much less than
something.)
but it probably explains why you noticed all these delightful little
details about jcs video.
i kept wondering why amy was clutching/wrestling with her jackets :-). i
really liked the video and most everybody looked like they were having a
blast.the music was just what a rock opera ought to be-imho.

as for my fair lady- yeah!! i'd like see how that turned out! how about
a redo of camelot? better yet a rewrite based on bradley's the mists of
avalon. how would you cast those? and then....
also any one out there know if the conservation of bandwidth is the first
or second law of webspacedynamics? just wondering <8-)

mongoose

keep on keepin' on.( b. dylan)
still crazy after all these years (p. simon)

i recall an interview in 10 percent magazine, i think, after boys on the
side came out...amy indicated that she enjoyed the experience.  seh
wanted to act again, and even wanted to do so on star trek: the next
generation, but alas the show had been "cancelled".  diidnt emily say
in the time articlee around the release of swamp ophelia that she
wanted to score movies?  anyone else remember this?

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 22:46:04 -0700
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subject:      chiapas bound?

back from the dead...again...
        i was looking through some old messages (in the light of all the
other 400 i perused through) and was wondering if chiapas bound is about
eating disorders or something or other, and exactly where y'all heard
this from.  lyrical content would be greatly appreciated, too...
        amy doesn't strike me as an anoretic, but she seems like someone
who could dig deep into the subject and come out with  a universal theme.

finals bite the big one. so does my personal life. next
semester, it's either one or the other...can't take both at the same
time.

pondering newport....teri

on sat, 18 may 96 20:26:08 -0700 amy j. putnam wrote:-

>i recall an interview in 10 percent magazine, i think, after boys on the
>side came out...amy indicated that she enjoyed the experience. seh
>wanted to act again, and even wanted to do so on star trek: the next
>generation, but alas the show had been "cancelled".

hi all, i'm new to list as well and i've just been sitting here for a while
getting rather depressed at not being able to track down all these wonderful
musicians since i live in sydney :(

anyways, did a say 'star trek'?! that would be so cool. i wonder if the
undoubtedly bizarre race of beings she belongs to would be capable of
parthenogenesis? (p.s. whoever posted that cookie recipe is ok in my books!)
apologies to anyone who missed the polysyllable. parthenogenesis is the
joining of two ovums to form a zygote or in plain english it means that you
don't need a male to make babies.

if anyone could find a copy of this interview and send it to me that would
be unreal! i've never even heard of 10% so i doubt it's available in
australia and i would be a very happy little first year student if someone
could find it.

thanks heaps!

p.s. do any of the [.au] ppl on the list know if the jcs cd or vid is
available in oz?

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date:         sat, 18 may 1996 23:49:37 -0700
reply-to:     tanya or gregg <psu04707@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
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subject:      boot cd's and other stuff

just making my way through goldmine again today and saw a place that has
some cd's that people on the list may be interested in:

shades of indigo
complicated girls
in with the out crowd
blood and fire
1200 curfews poster
assorted cd singles
etc, etc.

if anyone is interested, just give me a buzz back.....
gregg

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subject:      nigc-finals vs personal life

hey teri...

> finals bite the big one. so does my personal life. next semester,
it's either one or the other...can't take both at the same time.

personal life vs. finals & dropping out. ok, after 4 years of
college myself, i became the master of dropping classes (although
never an entire quarter, but know it's done). how does one drop out
of the former (without great pain)?

don't do it, teri....don't do it!

melissa

happy birthday bonnie!!!

"and we'll amuse ourselves one day with the memories we'll trace..."

bedwards@actamed.com
"get out the map"
*:);)*

here's some info on the glamas awards.

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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 15 may 1996 01:05:12 -0400
from: glamas@aol.com
to: indigo@clark.net
subject: re: info, please

deb--
for a complete rundown of eligibility requirements and a downloadable
nomination application (if you are on aol), you can go to lambda rising
online (keyword lambda) goto browse the store and look for gay/lesbian amer
music awards. if that doesn't work or if you don't have access to aol, let
me know your postal address and i'll mail you a form asap.

please note that only record labels, artists or their management are able to
nominate an act for an award. we encourage all others to contact a favorite
act's record label to ensure they have entered their most recent releases.

thanks.

tom mccormack
executive producer

ps deadline is 5/31!

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x-shameless cd-plug: willy porter, dog-eared dream
lines: 28

"tracy weeks et. al." <clumber9@alliance.net> wrote:

>                those who seem irritated/irked/bugged/<insert preferred word=
> here> by the "waste of bandwidth"  confuse me....  i understand that *some*=
> accounts apparently limit how much stuff (lines? pages?) one can recieve,=
> right?  well, then these accounts must not be really set up (intended?) for=
> mailing lists in general, correct? can't ya' just get a different
> provider?=

some of us are on other mailing lists too, and there are only so many hours
in the day. it would be nice if we didn't have to weed through so much
should-have-been-private mail and the like. (which, incidentally, is
totally different from saying that everything has to be igc.)

> (i have no problem w/ being told i am wrong and being educated, so feel=
> free...) what i do not understand, is why anyone can feel the "power to=
> interpret" what is a **waste** and what is not... especially for (as we=
> have been reminded) several many lotsa' other people.... so where is the=
> line that should be drawn????

some things are obvious, i think. for example, it shouldn't take much
thought to conclude that discussing how useless the false virus warnings
are, over and over again, is a waste. but basically, the best rule of thumb
is simply to think before you post: "is this really of interest to a lot of
people on the list?"

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date:         sun, 19 may 1996 13:31:00 -0400
reply-to:     "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
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from:         "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
subject:      re: nigc: bandwidth ... educate me.

on sat, 18 may 1996 01:29:00 edt, tracy weeks et al.
<clumber9@alliance.net> wrote:

[snip stuff that make sense]

a lot of the nigc stuff on this listserv (i get in digest form, which
makes it easier to sort among all the other message traffic i get into
my work acct) has served to enlighten and educate me. i don't always
agree with what's being said, time-wise, i can mostly lurk not respond
to everything, but i've yet to actually read a post that i've
considered a waste of bandwidth. much of the time, the nigc stuff as
well as the ig stuff makes me smile, makes me laugh, inspires me to
constructive action, makes me think, makes me question a hoary old
attitude of mine -- hopefully helps in the "rising and advancing of a
spirit" (to quote from the old shang-chi marvel comics of 20-some-odd
years ago).

and, incidentally, if the knowledge/info imparted by the nigc stuff
helps build some bridges between us, that's not the worst thing that cd
happen.....

all, of course, imnsho.

sampai jumpa (indonesian for "see ya later!"),

rahadyan

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subject:      one huge thanks from jenny.

i don't even know where to begin.  maybe i should start by saying thank
you to dana and to let all of you out there know what an amazing, strong,
determined person she is.  and, of course, there are all of you ig fans
who have brought countless smiles to my face in the past two weeks.  it is
so refreshing to know that there are so many wonderful people out
there... i wish i could meet every one of you.
to let you all know... everything is going good with me.  i am home.  i
get to go to the doctor several times a week... but i have an appointment
with a hand and arm specialist this thursday.  i am pretty anxious.  right
now, my arm is pretty much non-functioning, but with a lot of time and a
lot of work, i plan on being a normal person.
thanks to whoever sent me the enormous plant in the hospital.  the poor
guy who delivered it could hardly carry it, it was so huge.  i got
several phone calls in the hospital... beautiful roses from trant...
tamara visited me twice with all sorts of wonderful things... maggie sent
me a tape... a care package from carolin... millions of cards... the
list is so impressive, i can only mention a few.  i just cant explain my
gratitude.
please, feel free to email me.  i get pretty bored.  :)

strength from the milk of human kindness...
jenny

hey british & european ig fans

scot's tape has arrived! anyone who wants a copy, send me a mail and
we'll sort it out!

andrew

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subject:      attention - chris talbot

sorry to waste bandwidth folks!

chris

recently got a tape - ig live at radio city music hall, ny, 28 june 1994

might you be interested?

apologies for posting through the list, but my account had a 'bad day' a while
back, and it seems that i lost some addresses (yours being one)

regards

andrew

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x-to:         "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
in-reply-to:  <319f5ad4.2b17@nytimes.com>

ani difranco is going to be in tucson az on wednesday june 5.
interested??? i know that there are not too many of you out there living
in the desert for the summer, but let me know. i would love to meet
somebody from the list. thanks, hope

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subject:      re: nigc:ani difranco in tucson, az

on sun, 19 may 96, 11:30:46 -0700, hope a wisneski wrote me
individually and to the listserv:

> ani difranco is going to be in tucson az on wednesday june 5.
> interested??? i know that there are not too many of you out there living
> in the desert for the summer, but let me know. i would love to meet
> somebody from the list. thanks, hope

i'll be stuck in new york cat-sitting for a friend of mine who's in
phoenix for a conference/convention, and, to be honest, i haven't yet
heard ani difranco (next paycheck i'll pick up [one of?] her cd to
check her out -- one of the many, many positive things about this
listserv is all of yr musical recommendations...).

shawn colvin, mary chapin carpenter, jackson browne are all playing
(not the same dates!) either at jones beach (long island, ny) or the
garden state arts center (nj) -- if anyone wants the respective dates,
do let me know via private email. if a threshold of people wana know
then i'll post to the ig listserv in general...

i'd love to eventually meet folk from the ig listserv too, but it'll
probably take a while 'fore it happens. can't make newport as i'm
waiting on word about a management fellowship for the month of august
that takes place at northwestern. barring that, i'm going to the asian
american journalists association convention in minneapolis/st paul
second wk of august and i have to focus on all that...

regards,
rahadyan

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date:         sun, 19 may 1996 15:32:06 edt
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subject:      re: real live igc content from the tracy one <call cnn!>

> ps suddenly came to realize that w/ e, i sometimes have trouble *hearing* what the lyric is...
> yet with a its the "translation" i have more trouble with... hmmmm... as a confirmed card-carrying
> a-pe
son, what dya' closet shrinks think this means?*

well, i have trouble hearing both from time to time, but mostly e.
and i have trouble understanding both, but mostly a.  i'm originally
an e-person, but i've become in touch with my a-side in recent times.
i think that a makes her lyrics much more personal which means it's
difficult for anyone but herself to understand them; however, she
articulates them more because she wants us to understand what she is
trying to get across.  i think that e on the other hand writes more
poetically/lyrically/storytelling-ly, and therefore it is not quite
so concerned that we hear every word, just so long as we understand
the whole context.  that's my analysis.

anna
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subject:      re: ig as actors

> <hasty + fevered snipping noises, whilst muttering stuff about "band width"
> + wondering what on earth all *this* has to do with some obese musical group...>

that's hilarious! it took me about five re-readings to get it, but
when i did, the computer lab echoed with my chuckles! :)

> a is so intense and puts out so much energy, however, that she just *might*
> be right for certain parts ( barring the obvious... like rambo <sg> ).

not everybody can play every part.  i know this full well since i
have been told time and time again that i'm not sutable for some part
or another.  anyone can act, but it takes a little talent and a lot
of practice to be good.  i think amy could do a wonderful job if she
wanted to and set her mind to it.

> ps... i'd love to see a as "what's-her-nose doolittle ( it's early + i need
> cofee ) in a remake of the musical my fair lady :- ) now *that* would be
> fun... ohhh it's liza, right?... liza doolittle.... i'm sure the ending
> would be differnt :- )

actually, in the orignal stage version, liza doolittle and the
professor do not fall in love....of course, she does end up with
freddy....anyway, never mind.

anna

in a message dated 96-05-19 15:33:10 edt, you write:

>i think that a makes her lyrics much more personal which means it's
>difficult for anyone but herself to understand them; however, she
>articulates them more because she wants us to understand what she is
>trying to get across.

good analysis....i would like to add my thoughts (ohhh noooo:)
on the the above point.....
i think that amy's lyrics are, perhaps sooo personal, that
they speak to universal themes that run through the human
experience...to me the songs travel through the personal
experience of the songwriter to the place that lives in all
of our hearts...
can you see that place ? it's there...i know :)

luv,
binky

(she's been listening to 'sweet honey in the rock' again :)

" listen more often to things than to beings...."
(birago diop)

i know it's about a week old but i just thought i'd forward this to y'all and
see what you think ... from the rec.music.folk newsgroup.

mat

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: 11 may 1996 12:46:58 -0400
from: robtretter <robtretter@aol.com>
newsgroups: rec.music.folk
subject: re: newport folk fest

mateo@awi.net listed the sunday newport lineup as:
>
> 8/11:  martin sexton, clarence "gatemouth" brown and, of course, the
> indigo girls.
>
at the risk of incurring the wrath of many devoted ig fans,  i have to say
i'm disappointed that they're playing again this year. i think this will
be the fourth (or maybe fifth) consecutive year that they were featured at
newport.  with the impressive diversity of talent in the folk world these
days, it's a shame that newport has seen fit to reinvite the same artists
year after year.

i've made the trip to newport the last seven years.  coming from a college
radio background (yes, kids, before there was "alternative music"), i
wasn't familiar with many of the featured artists.  but at newport, i was
introduced to a new world of music.  i was uplifted by the spirit and the
conviction of the fairfield four, danced to the joyful zydeco sounds of
queen ida, and marveled at richard thompson's guitar virtuosity and john
hiatt's songwriting. many of the artists i've seen at newport have since
become my personal favorites.

it's in that spirit and joy of discovering new music that leads me to
object to the latest trend at newport to book artists like the indigo
girls and ani defranco for multiple years.  it's absolutely not their
music - i've been an ig fan from their debut release, and have seen them
play a number of times outside of newport.  i just think that the
programming has forced many of the great new artists these days into the
early morning new music slot (a la dar williams and richard shindell) or
eliminated them from playing the festival entirely.  given the opportunity
and the exposure, i'm sure these artists could become as popular as the
indigo girls with the newport crowd.

anyway, that's just one man's opinion. if you're at newport this year,
stop by. i'll be the one who's listening more intently martin sexton and
gatemouth brown, with the big grin on his face.

rob tretter

"the public wants what the public gets"
- the jam, "going underground"

hey dear ones, there are several of you who have sent me tapes for trade, and
i will be starting on those today...but there are also several folks i am
supposed to be trading with and i have lost track of the deals in my state of
moving and craziness...let me know if you're sitting there waiting for me to
e-mail you back about one, ok?

oh, here's one big chunk of igc...my 1200 disc (2nd one) is skipping!!!!
wail!!!

ok, i feel better now...

-larissa

dear binky et all....

>after seeing jcs, i think that emily saliers has definite potential
as an actress...i think she would be quite good if she chose to
persue that disipline.

after watching the video myself (as well as the movie fm some years
ago), i kind of questioned how es portrayed mary magdalene.  wasnt
the character supposed to be jesus' lover (forgive my jewish
ignorance of these things)?  that's the way i thought the movie had
it.  anyway, she kind of played it platonically instead... a bit on
the cautious side, perhaps (unless i had the characters' premise
wrong).

just an opinion....

melissa gordon
"looking for a fire retardent suit, in case of flames"

just got a msg from my pal at emory law....mentioned the obvious (igc)
connection and she said how proud emory is of its illustrious alum
(that's almost alliterative!) and mentioned the free show last year on
campus...sigh....i mean, i like my school and all (even though a lot of
people on our conservative christian campus shudder at the mention of the
girls, if they have heard of them, sputtering and gasping words like
"that lifestyle" and other stupid things with a look of complete
horror....okay, the place is better than that, but i digress...) but it's
times like these that i wanna be at emory or, really nowadays, in decatur
or athens or some other happnen georgia place with girls singin their
hearts out! wah.

any listees want to hook up at the ani show on june 2nd at the mayan? i'm
going w. a group of great ani diehards and go-heads. e me privately if so.
peace y'all
karen
________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
product of suburban psychosis. ;-/
________________
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>
> k's choice (whatever happened to k's choice ??)
>

well, they have a new album and single out...at least,
they do in sunny britain...

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subject:      ig as actors & other news...

in an interview printed in time magazine in 1994, when
asked if they would like to do more movies like "boys
on the side," amy said she is too hyper to just sit
between camera setups, so she was in no hurry. emily
said she would like to write film scores.

the la times reported that local radio station ksca-fm
(101.9) is releasing "live from the music hall vol. 2,"
which is a compilation of live in-studio performances. it
features amy and emily doing "reunion."

they are only pressing 10,000 copies and will only be sold
at the virgin megastore in burbank.

can you say collector's item?

in honor the earth news, in august, daemon records will
release a compilation cd featuring hte performers like a+e.

-subcity

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subject:      newport/questions/dar...

hi folks,

wow! newport lineup looks really great! after all the great new orleans=20
stories i really don't want to miss out on august too... i can see i'm going=
=20
to have to break open my piggy bank/win the lottery/rob a bank/find a rich=
=20
lover ...don't think my gf would be too happy 'bout that last one tho... :)

anyway, while i dream on about the vague possibility of making the trip of a=
=20
lifetime, there's a couple of questions i'd be really grateful if someone=20
could answer:

1) how much roughly would it cost to get a bus/train from ny to newport, and=
=20
how long does it take?

2) how can i get hold of jcs video in european pal format? i tried mailing=
=20
daemon but got no reply :(

3) does anyone know if melissa e is going to be doing any shows in the uk=20
without brian adams?

on a totally different subject, dar williams - wow!  trusting the impeccable=
=20
musical judgement of fellow listies i bought a limited edition 2cd set -=20
mortal city and honesty room -at the weekend (=a315stlg) - think it's only=
=20
just been released in europe 'cos i've never managed to find any of her=20
stuff before.  anyway, suffice to say i'm very impressed and now have to=20
think about going to cambridge folk festival to see her!  is she doing any=
=20
other uk dates?=20

and to end with, <drumroll> the emily wittiscism of the day: =20
as seen on a us tv show - interviewer is talking about their success and=20
asks 'is there anything that irritates you now that didn't back then?' amy=
=20
says 'no...', emily says 'amy...' !

take care y'all,

*************
seffy
cod=3d=3d#
*************

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subject:      i'm back! (i hope) &re: columbia house

hi all!!!

i'm back.... at least for now. i figured a way for me to access my
internet e-mail account from my computer at work. so, at least for
now i can send and receive e-mail on this account.

the problem was that windows95 erased my slip software when i
installled software to access my work internet e-mail via a lan
connection to our gateway.. isn't windows 95 wonderful..

anyhow... it looks like this is working, so now i can use the lan
connection for work and the modem dial up for personal stuff. pretty
cool.

ok now in regards to columbia house (and other record clubs)

on 18 may 96 at 11:43, guinione@aol.com wrote:

> hello fellow listers ...
>
> just a quick note to those who belong to columbia house . <snip>

just in case y'all are not aware of this. when we purchase cds from a
record club like bmi or columbia house, the artists whose work we are
purchasing receive absolutley no renumeration for their work!!

there is a part of the copyright laws that allows these types of
clubs to purchase master tapes of artists works from the record
companies (like sony). then columbie house can make as many copies of
an artists work as they wish and never actually pay the artists one
thin dime!!!

currently a number of artists are suing trying to change this law.

the reason i bring this up is that i, personally, feel that if i
enjoy an artists work i want to help support the artist in their
work. i don't feel any obligation to help columbia house make more
dough.

i was a member of columbia house and bmi until i learned of this
practice. i resigned my membership.

just something to think about.

peace y'all,

dan perkins

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> after watching the video myself (as well as the movie fm some years
> ago), i kind of questioned how es portrayed mary magdalene.  wasnt
> the character supposed to be jesus' lover (forgive my jewish
> ignorance of these things)?  that's the way i thought the movie had
> it.  anyway, she kind of played it platonically instead... a bit on
> the cautious side, perhaps (unless i had the characters' premise
> wrong).

actually, mary magdalene is not jesus' lover.  no one is mentioned in
the bible as being jesus' lover.  i don't believe that he had one.
mm was a very close friend of jesus, and she may have had a thing for
him, but jesus was (warning: christian perspective) without sin, and
therefore would not be tempted by the flesh.  there was a hollywood
movie made some time ago (forgive me, but i do not recall the name)
which had some sort of scene where jesus dreams about mm.  there is
absolutely no biblical basis for this scene and it really pissed off
a lot of christians.  at the same time, it formed a lot of
misconceptions about jesus' relationship with mm.  other than that,
i've been told that the movie was fairly accurate (or as accurate as
hollywood ever gets).  hope that answers your questions!

anna

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learn how to use my hands, not just my head"
-emily saliers

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yesterday i was listening to 1200c and i finally remembered to write
down all of the things i've noticed that i'm wondering about, but
never remember when i sit down in front of the computer. here goes
it:

1. where is emily's mom a librarian? (see "virgina woolf")

2. why does amy say, "way to count," at the end of "joking"?

3. what exactly _is_ a melodica, anyway? (what amy learn to play
for the begining of "dead man's hill")

thanks!

anna

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hi yall,

i have had a problem getting any correspondence back from the ig fan club.
i have sent two letters in the past year and a half and still have received
nothing. i am pretty sure i have the correct address. can anyone shed some
light as to what may be going on?
are they that backed up? help!! i want some ig merchandise.

thanks yall
paula

hi yall

anyone going to be in atlanta on june 21st?  i purchased a couple of braves
tickets a while back and now my plans have changed and i am not able to use
them.  i live in cincinnati so it is hard to find someone around here to use
them.  i paid $25 bucks for them so i thought i could possibly trade them
for a boot of some sort.

thanks yall
paula

hey y'all. just posting my last post. i'm outta here, and it's been great.
hope i get to stay in touch somehow. my email address, for as long as it
remains active (?) is. . .  holleys@uamont.edu
my home address is      mindy holley
                        5416 e. pointer rd.
                        pine bluff, ar  71601
i just got a flag for new mail received from "listserv" so i guess it's
official. i must go crawl in a hole somewhere until the shock wears off. :(

laters--
just one of the girls,
mindigo

okay everyone, this is fugitive week. get your thinking caps on, and give us
some discussion on this song. if you've already posted a few weeks ago, go
ahead and do it again for all of us who missed it. and if you don't want to
read it again just delete the sotw posts.

angie in kc

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hi everyone,
i figured that this would be of interest.
the us supreme court struck down the anti-gay rights
amendment that the voters approved here in colorado.
it was called amendment 2 and was sponsored by a
right-wing hate group called colorado for family values.
i don't see how hate is a family value.

the group advertised it heavily on tv saying that their
bill was to disallow special rights for gays.  if you actually
read the bill, it took away most right by gays.  the bill
would have prevented cities that already had laws
protecting gay rights from being constitutional in the
state.  boulder, denver, and aspen already had such
laws in place.

boulder, denver, and aspen got together and sued the
state to prevent the law from going into effect until the
supreme court had a chance to rule on it. the law
was never allowed to be put into effect. it was ruled
unconstitutional in the state supreme court and as of
today, it was ruled unconstitutional in the us supreme
court.

some good did come from this, several additional
cities in colorado passed gay rights legislation.  this
includes telluride and crested butte.  the people
in colorado got a lot of education regarding gay
issues.  it also has set a precedent that a state cannot
take rights away from an individual based on sexual
preference.

have a good week,
- - howdy

in a message dated 96-05-20 11:17:32 edt, creechal@cc.emu.edu
(chickensoprano) writes:

>
>2. why does amy say, "way to count," at the end of "joking"?

okay i have no idea about the melodica or em's mum, but probably the reason
amy said  this at the end of joking is 'cause the audience was most
definitely singing along & in the album version of joking there's that pause,
then she goes 1 2 3 4 and starts up again, but in the live version jerry does
his rad drum thing at that point, so we don't hear her say it, but i'm sure
that the audience did.
or maybe not.
another post sanitized for your protection by
r
i
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    k
a flame-free joe.

*huh huh huh huh stayin' alive....*

hey y'all... at some point in the past week... it was put forth that we
start up the "song of the day" thread again... only make it "song of the
week"... the song for this 1st week ( starting here... starting now... )
being fugitive.
at places in this song, it sounds as if a is talking about the price payed
by celebrities in the loss of their freedom to just "be" without the eyes of
the public, both friendly and not, upon them.
then i hear/read the lines like: "i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a
kind she lives in my soul drinks of my wine and i'd give my last breath to
keep us alive"... etc etc, and i wonder if a is also talking about her "real
self"... the person she is inside. you know... the person you are with all
your hopes + dreams etc. as opposed to the person you become, or present to
those around you, due to outside things that you really have not too much
control over... me... i'm struggling to protect that "real self" of mine
from the day to day stresses that threaten to rob me of her. it would be
like throwing my hands in the air and just giving up, to lose the "real
kim". all joy would be completely sucked from my life if i did that, so, i
fight with tooth + claw to shelter her. i've been thinking a lot about this
sort of thing lately, so i guess that's where i'm coming from. i can't help
but piggy back all my musings + feelings about this onto the lyrics of
fugitive. it's incredible to me that almost every ig song is so open ended
etc. that individuals can bring to them their own interpretation... yeah...
i know other artists do this too... but i rarely listen to other stuff these
days... that's why i'm an ig fan... they basically fill a needful void for
me right now... and they do it so well.
anyway... to those who read this far... thanks for indulging me...
peace + inner peace :- ) kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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on sat, 18 may 1996, krae wrote:

> this was the first time i have ever seen her so i have to say that
> i was really blown away by her stuff.

caroline is one of the most talented performers out there. i challenge
anyone to see one of her shows and not be blown away. she's also really
really nice. :)

> friend stop by and she went up solo. i forgot her name - laura maybe. she
> sang and played a 6-string ovation. i did get to talk to ca after her 2nd

i'm going to guess that it might have been deidre mccalla. the two of
them played a show last week in columbus and caroline mentioned having
deidre stop in to play at her eddie's show.

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kristina cizas                 "let us dig out gardens and not be elsewhere;
kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu        let us take long walks in the open air...
                                  let us bathe in the rivers and lakes...
                                  let us indulge in games...
    ~~~~~~~~~~~                   let us be more simple; simple and true in
"we are wise, wise women,           our gestures, in our words, and simple
   we are giggling girls..."        and true in our minds above all. let us
          --ani                     be ourselves."
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on 20 may 96 at 12:41, richard sayre iii wrote:

> okay i have no idea about the melodica or em's mum

a melodica is a small keyboard instrument that you blow into to
produce the sound. it has a keyboard similar to a piano, black and
white keys... white keys naturals, black keys sharps/flats. you hold
it in your left hand, play the keys with your right hand (very
difficult at first if you are lefthanded, like me) and blow into a
mouth piece on one end of the melodica. it produces a kind of organ
like sound. very limited range though. something like two octaves.

peace,

dan

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kim fischer wrote:
>at places in this song, it sounds as if a is talking about the price payed
>by celebrities in the loss of their freedom to just "be" without the eyes of
>the public, both friendly and not, upon them.
>then i hear/read the lines like: "i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a
>kind she lives in my soul drinks of my wine and i'd give my last breath to
>keep us alive"... etc etc, and i wonder if a is also talking about her "real
>self"... the person she is inside. you know... the person you are with all
>your hopes + dreams etc. as opposed to the person you become, or present to
>those around you, due to outside things that you really have not too much
>control over...
i love your interpretation! to extend on it, this song seems to be about trying
to live day-to-day, compromising oneself in all the little ways that reality
forces one to, and in the meantime trying to maintain your own sense of self
-- not letting the way you act in order to satisfy the world's demands change
the person who you really are, deep inside. amy may have written the song
about the compromises she has to make as a "celebrity", but the experience
is universal -- no matter where you go in life, you'll have to do things
which don't mesh with your ideas about who you are, and you'll hear this
little voice inside you saying "this is not what i bargained for".
it's a great song!
kirsten

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on sun, 19 may 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> i know it's about a week old but i just thought i'd forward this to y'all and
> see what you think ... from the rec.music.folk newsgroup.

i can appreciate the sentiment, but i think you can look at it another way...
having a famous act like ig at the festival might take a spot that could go to
a less well-known performer, but it will also draw more people to see the less
famous acts who are there.

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at 02:31 pm 5/20/96 -0400, kirsten wrote (in response to my interpretation
of fugitive ):
> to extend on it, this song seems to be about trying
>to live day-to-day, compromising oneself in all the little ways that reality
>forces one to, and in the meantime trying to maintain your own sense of self
>-- not letting the way you act in order to satisfy the world's demands change
>the person who you really are, deep inside. amy may have written the song
>about the compromises she has to make as a "celebrity", but the experience
>is universal
yes!!!!! thank you kirsten... this is the "rounding it out point" my post
needed... the tie between celebrity + personal life that a may have been
writing about... so that we, even as non-celebrities, can fully relate. love
it... love this list.
peace... kim.
<kim fischer>
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disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
****************************************

in a message dated 96-05-19 23:47:24 edt, you write:

>after watching the video myself (as well as the movie fm some years
>ago), i kind of questioned how es portrayed mary magdalene.  wasnt
>the character supposed to be jesus' lover (forgive my jewish
>ignorance of these things)?  that's the way i thought the movie had
>it.  anyway, she kind of played it platonically instead... a bit on
>the cautious side, perhaps (unless i had the characters' premise
>wrong).

well...i don't really know... but i don't think most churches want anyone
to think that jc ever did the 'nasty" with anyone (let alone a prostitute)
there has been some debate on that...i remember a 'banned' book that
suggested that jc actually ran off with mary m. and settled down ,
had kids and grew old and happy :) (i think it was called
"the last temptation of christ".
one reviewer out here in seattle grumbled that they didn't play out the
'lover' element of that scenario more..like you said, they played it safe.
the reviewer thought that the gender switch with ar as jc would have
been more ground breaking if they had played up the 'lover' element
more.

push, push, pushin' that envelope,
binky the claire
i could really see ar on star trek...how about "deep space nine"?
she could be one of those spotted face people,,or maybe a klingon :)
i could also see her in a sort of 'film noir' flick...set in the backcountry
of course :)

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on sun, 19 may 1996, andrew stokell wrote:

> hey british & european ig fans
>
> scot's tape has arrived! anyone who wants a copy, send me a mail and
> we'll sort it out!

scot who? and what's on this tape?

mat

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last temptation of christ, which was a scorsase film i do believe.  but i
never saw it...gwen
(snip snip)
> therefore would not be tempted by the flesh.  there was a hollywood
> movie made some time ago (forgive me, but i do not recall the name)
> which had some sort of scene where jesus dreams about mm.  there is
> absolutely no biblical basis for this scene and it really pissed off
> a lot of christians.  at the same time, it formed a lot of
> misconceptions about jesus' relationship with mm.  other than that,
> i've been told that the movie was fairly accurate (or as accurate as
> hollywood ever gets).  hope that answers your questions!
>
> anna
>
> --
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>  learn how to use my hands, not just my head"
>                   -emily saliers
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for all of the ani fans out there...i got her new album on friday, and it
has not left my cd player since!!! songs to check out immediately are :
one, three, two, um, four, five, six, seven (cover of amazing
grace...ultra cool), nine....okay...you get the picture :)!!

just wanted to let everyone know that i think it is her best yet...if
you've ever seen her in concert, you may recognize some of the songs...

also, if anyone can get me more tour info...i live in michigan, and am
dying to see her again...

love and hugs..

aim

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hi y'all, especially pacific northwesterners/pacific southwesterner
canadians, but everybody, really, since we seem to be such a mobile group:
i got the folklife schedule from the seattle weekly, so here are some
highlights:
friday:
*marysville marimba ensemble at 4pm at the flag plaza.  marimbas are used
in the backgrounds of several ig songs, notably language or the kiss and
power of 2.  they look like huge xylophones, and have a great sound.  i've
heard this group before, and they're great.
*laura kemp: never heard of her, but her little blurb says:
singer-guitarist-musical poet, so i wanna check her out.  at 4:30 at the
flag terrace.
*caribbean super stars-a steel drum band that's really good.  8pm in the
reggae and world beat concert and dance at the mural amphitheatre, which
is from 5:30 to 11 or so.  but
*derivative duo at 9:00, 2 dykes doing opera but with funny english words.
saw them a month ago, they're very cool.  at the rainier room.

saturday:
alot of stuff that personally interests me (like storytelling, afro-cuban
drumming, blues, etc) but i'm not sure is of enough general interest to
post. everybody is free to email me privately with personal taste
questions (like what salsa bands are playing).
*maggie savage: feminist singer songwriter, at the rainier room at 10:20

sunday:
*rebecca riots-another i've never heard of.  her blurb sez: radical folk
-- riveting vocals.  at 2:30 at founder's court.
*motherlode: humor heart harmony 4 women, at 5:30, at founder's court.
*kudana marimba ensemble, at 5 at the mural amphitheatre
*musasa marimba ensemble, at 3 at the flag plaza
seems to be a theme here, hmmmm :)
*jo miller and the south end/traditional bluegrass.  jo miller was the
lead singer of ranch romance, a way cool country band that recently broke
up.  not only an awesome singer, she's cute! ;)
*erin corday/folk deviant w/drummer boy.  she's great.  (her blurb reminds
me of ani, but her style is really different.  at 8pm at the mercer arena.

monday:
*ola brasil!, which is my capoeira instructor and others.  brazilian dance
and stuff.  promises to be great.  at 2pm at the center house stage.  then
at 4 there's a workshop.  i know this doesn't have anything to do with
everything, but if you try it you'll probably fall in love, like i did.
*lora and sukutai marimba, at 3:30 at the mural amphitheatre.
*a. healey and l. savage: 2 grrls, 2 guitars, 1 pickup truck.  sounds
interesting. <g> at 6 at the group theatre (in the center house).
the best, the one and only, not to be missed,
                                                women's show!!!!!!

monday night, starting at 7, in the mercer arena.
this is absolutely wunnerful every year.  this year's host is lisa koch,
(pronounced coke) who is a hella funny local dyke comedian.  there's lotsa
great stuff, including the spudds, which is lisa and peggy platt.
together they are even more hilarious!!!  also swamp mama johnson, an
all-woman blues band, cute sax player, great music.  and some others, like
les femmes d'enfer, ("women from hell")--cajun dance band; tres
mundos-venezualan folk, and more.  be there or regret it.

although, it really sucks that they're having it on monday night. why
couldn't it be saturday or sunday nights, when we don't all have to go
back to school/work/real life the very next morning??? waaaaah.

well, there you have it: my social life for next weekend. i really hope i
get to meet some of y'all.

peace and music,
karey

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hi all. i just read the post from howdy (i think) about the overturning
of amendment 2 by the us supreme court. because i have been at a
graduation for the college i work for for the past four hours, i didn't hear
the joyous news until now. what a wonderful thing this is! i can't even
describe to you all, those of you who don't live in colorado, how
momentous this is. gay people and homo-friendly coloradans everywhere
are rejoicing today. the ugly, hateful shadow that amendment 2 cast over
this gorgeous state has been lifted. i for one am having a celebratory
beer with my many gay friends tonight!

here's to a world without hatred and prejudice. we're chipping away at ut
bit by bit!

susan

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
-emily saliers

smarine@cc.colorado.edu

rainy day is getting a shipment of them in, right now, as we speak, most
likely.. they are getting lots of them, give them a call if you want it and
can't get it anyplace else.. i should have mine by thursday.. *grin*

1-800-636-6166

brooke

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reply-to:     iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu
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from:         iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu
subject:      re: just a few questions
x-to:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
in-reply-to:  <199605201726.maa05065@access.texas.gov>

> a melodica is a small keyboard instrument that you blow into to
> produce the sound. ... you hold it in your left hand, play the keys
> with your right hand (very difficult at first if you are lefthanded,
> like me) and blow into a mouth piece on one end of the melodica.

also (little-known fact) the melodica is powered
by a unicycle.  the performer must pedal to supply
energy for the production of sound.  (faster pedaling
yields greater volume, obviously.)  frankly it seems
like a lot of work for 24 notes.

i-girl

if anyone has really good tickets to the newport concert give me a message
please i really want to see them up close this time.

mike

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 17:55:45 -0500
reply-to:     molly jane b murphy <julj03a@prodigy.com>
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from:         molly jane b murphy <julj03a@prodigy.com>
subject:      oh geez another newport

hi guys,

okay here's the deal, does anyone know when the latest is that i can
get two day passes to newport?

this is really important so any info would be cool. thank you, thank
you : )

sweating because i live in sweaty nj,

gwen

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 18:09:44 -0400
reply-to:     patti aha <paha@frontiernet.net>
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from:         patti aha <paha@frontiernet.net>
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 19 may 1996 to 20 may 1996 - special
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hey folks!

i know y'all probably covered this a long time ago, but i'm going to ask
again: where can i get info for newport? you can email me privately to
save list chatter, if you'd like at: paha@ frontiernet.net

thanks!

patti

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 18:14:20 edt
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      fan tours & tapes

i have rooms reserved at the following hotels:

best western mainstay ($160 per room/$40 per person per night - sunday night
will probably be cheaper)

holiday's pineapple inn ($120/$30 per night for friday and saturday night and
$80/$20 per night for sunday night)

e-mail me or call me at (908)418-7115 for more info.

to purchase a room, send check/money order made out to the following name and
address:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016

i need the money for the rooms asap (or by june 14 at the latest)

i was in new hope, pa yesterday and saw some tapes in the discount bins, so i
grabbed them with the feeling that they really don't belong there. i will
trade them for the most appealing boot offers. the tapes are the following:

michelle malone & drag the river - relentless (2 tapes)

the jody grind (2 different tapes - i don't have the names in front of me,
but if you're interested, e-mail me and i will let you know which ones they
are)

i will update further about early-entrance passes, etc. in upcoming posts.
talk to y'all soon.

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

i'm getting this really cool 65 falcon from my dad and i
just don't think it will be complete without an ig sticker.
unfortunatly... i'm all out. if anyone has one or two they'd
give/sell me i'd appreicate it... email me directly of course.

thanks in advance

trink

"i used to lie like that alone out on the driveway...."
what a tragedy that might have been. =)

yes!! dilate is cool!!!!!!!! & "amazing grace" is very very very good, but no
one will ever sing it better than crystal lewis (imho)... :)
in a message dated 96-05-20 16:10:54 edt, benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu
(cardigan) writes:

>also, if anyone can get me more tour info...i live in michigan, and am
>dying to see her again...
>
well i got this handy lil' tour date listing w/my cds, but it's only till
august, so if anybody is wondering if ani's coming to visit them, just send
me an e-mail okey dokey artichokey??
(aim- i don't have any michigan dates on my list yet)

a purty little post running around in it's underwear & squealin' like a pig
from
r
i
c
k
a flame-free joe.
*sometimes you're the windshield
sometimes you're the bug*
mark knopfler
(or some variation thereof)

i saw someone posted about this -- has anyone else had this problem ???

just recently ctf and bmhawk are unlistenable ...

maybe it's because i play it so freakin' much in the car ?????????????

chris

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 20:39:00 edt
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subject:      way to count
x-to:         chickensoprano <creechal@cc.emu.edu>

hey there -
i get the digest vers so am always a little behind y'all (tho honestly i am probably like that for "real" anyway), but anna of chickensoprano <creechal@cc.emu.edu asked:

2. why does amy say, "way to count," at the end of "joking"?

and i hadn't yet seen an answer... sooo....
in the studio version you'll hear amy sort of raspy throated go, "1..2..3..4.." during the break. in the 12k version the audience does this!!! so, i am assuming from a very "amusedamy" place amy praises them for counting! cracks me up. too, cuz when playing the studio vers *i* also sing the count! yeah yeah - i *never* claimed to be "all here"... <twitches>

as far as 1 and 3... umm.. err.... i had a great answer for you but.. ummm... my dogs ate it.

woofs.
tracy*
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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 21:05:14 -0400
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: ani's new cd
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              "cardigan" at may 20, 96 04:07:57 pm

actually, she released a promo tape like the beginning of april to stores, i
have had it and, it is a f#$king incredible album! untouchable face blows my
mind. she does almost all the songs live (amazing grace is a soundcheck
song, i dunno if she has been doing it live or not recently.
when i saw her in portland last month (after pukimng half a lung cus it was
a stressful fucked up day slash anniversary) she did songs that were not on
dilate, and a few songs she did last september did not make it on to the
album, i do think the majority of stuff from when i saw her @ the orpheum in
boston made it on, but i really was not "into" that show, but newport will
rock!

mike r.

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 01:56:50 gmt
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph>
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subject:      re: ig as actors
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gwen keyt,gkeyt@paul.spu.edu,inet writes:
last temptation of christ, which was a scorsase film i do believe.  but i
never saw it...gwen
(snip snip)
> therefore would not be tempted by the flesh.  there was a hollywood
> movie made some time ago (forgive me, but i do not recall the name)
> which had some sort of scene where jesus dreams about mm.  there is
> absolutely no biblical basis for this scene and it really pissed off
> a lot of christians.  at the same time, it formed a lot of
> misconceptions about jesus' relationship with mm.  other than that,
> i've been told that the movie was fairly accurate (or as accurate as
> hollywood ever gets).  hope that answers your questions!
>
> anna
>

the movie, which starred willem defoe and barbara hershey and was directed by
martin scorsese, is based on a book by the brilliant greek writer nikos
katzanzakis. "the last temptation of christ" is a pretty radical
interpretation of jesus' life; in the book, his father joseph is a paralytic,
and while he is on the cross, he has a dream/fantasy of what his life might
have been like if he was not crucified. he lives life as a man, becomes the
lover of and marries mary magdalene, and dies of old age. but then, as his
fantasy ends, he snaps out of it and he is on the cross again. and he is able
to die in peace, knowing he made the right decision. i loved both the book
and the movie, though many (who actually watched the movie, as opposed to
judging it without seeing it) found the latter rather boring.

i haven't seen the jcs production of ig yet, but i can't wait.

anna

hey. any of yall going to see this concert? (on may 26) if you are write me
back or something so that we can meet up. . . saw ig there last year and wish
they were going to be there again.
= ( . . . oh well, i can live with seeing ani. must go study for finals.
yuck!

-catherine : )

"life don't clickity clack down a straight line track, it comes together and
it comes apart" -ferron

i-girl wrote:

>also (little-known fact) the melodica is powered
>by a unicycle.  the performer must pedal to supply
>energy for the production of sound.  (faster pedaling
>yields greater volume, obviously.)  frankly it seems
>like a lot of work for 24 notes.

i heard that they had rigged up some kind of contraption whereby instead
of having to clear a space for the unicycle itself on the stage (all those
cables etc can be a hazard for unicyclists, you know), jerry marotta
actually had a pedal-powered generator hidden inside his bass drum.
actually i read about it national geographic - they did an article on the
possibility of powering an small iowa town entirely by such devices.
however, the idea was eventually discarded because it simply wasn't
feasible for one town to house that many bass drums at one time.

i'm not sure exactly how it works when amy and emily play without
jerry or sara along. but if you ever see emily running offstage
during the introduction to "dead man's hill", you'll know why.

oh, and in answer to the other questions - emily's mother is, of course,
a librarian at (wait for it) - a library. and amy says "way to count" because,
if i recall correctly, the show that "joking" was recorded at was attended
mainly by college students. and everyone knows that college students
have trouble counting past one without the aid of a calculator - in fact, i
know this from firsthand experience.

*smirk*
-sherlyn

ps - i'll see you all at newport!! :)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
        "i was all out of choices, but the woman of voices,
         she turned 'round the corner with music around her;
         she gave me the language that keeps me alive..."
                    - dar williams, "you're aging well"

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 23:26:33 -0500
reply-to:     mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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subject:      amy's review

what magazine did amy ray write a review in and which
artist did she review?

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