lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-05d


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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 00:03:03 -0400
reply-to:     cojehali@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cojehali@aol.com
subject:      re: indigo girls fan club wanna be

in a message dated 96-05-20 11:28:54 edt, paula.loos@uc.edu (paula loos)
writes:

>i have had a problem getting any correspondence back from the ig fan club.
>i have sent two letters in the past year and a half and still have received
>nothing.  i am pretty sure i have the correct address.  can anyone shed some
>light as to what may be going on?
>are they that backed up?  help!!  i want some ig merchandise.

well, after sending the ig fan club an e-mail to join back in october, i
finally got a mailing from them (at least i think it was from them) last
week.....here's what it said:

"dear indigo girls fan:

thanks for your interest in the fan club.  you have been enrolled and will
receive all future mailings.

amy and emily will play the new orleans jazz and heritage festival this
spring and the newport folk festival in august, but will not be touring until
1997, so it will be a while before tour dates are available.

here is a list of ig merchanside currently available through the fan club":

....and then the second page is a list of merchandise.  the only problem is
that nowhere on the entire mailing (which is simply two pieces of white paper
folded and stapled) is there a return address that tells you where to send
your order!!!!  hello???  i suppose i could maybe look on the cd and see if
the address is there and then hope it's the same one, but it still seems like
a major oversight to me!

anyway, if anyone wants a copy of the fan club merchandise order form and
despairs of hearing back from the fan club anytime this year, i'd be happy to
send you a copy....if you have a fax machine, e-mail me your fax # and i'll
fax it to you.  if you don't have a fax, just send me an sase (regular letter
size envelope w/a stamp, addressed to you....e-mail me for my address). be
sure to include a little note letting me know you want the ig merchandise
order form.  hope that will be of help to those of you who are still
waiting....

-connie :)

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 23:43:17 cdt
reply-to:     zofus@iastate.edu
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from:         zofus@iastate.edu
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 20 may 1996
in-reply-to:  your message of tue, 21 may 1996 00:01:01 -0400
              <199605210401.aaa08166@netspace.org>

i beleive amy reviewed ferron in "some disc magazine."  is that close
enough?  i have a copy of it....somewhere in a box in storage....but for the
life of me, i can't remember the title of the mag.  i remember that it
consisted of discsfor mail order.  do i win anything?
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"it's good to be king."    t.petty

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 01:04:23 -0400
reply-to:     joansl@aol.com
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from:         "<benjamin slavin>" <joansl@aol.com>
subject:      sorry-another search for jan

sorry to mail all you nice people again. is jan somewhere out there or did
she quit the list.
thanks, ben

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date:         mon, 20 may 1996 22:11:29 -0700
reply-to:     wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      rockin in the free world
x-to:         dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov>
in-reply-to:  <199605201439.jaa03068@access.texas.gov>

hi there, does anyone know if emily plays the electric guitar solo in th
esong "rockin in the free world"?  at first i thought it was her, but now
i'm not so sure.  if you wonderful people who have seen them a thousand
times and saw them perform this song, could you let the curious souls
like me know if emily was the mid-song instrumentalist  in "rockin".  it
would be greatly appreciated.


love, wendell

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 01:19:02 -0400
reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
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from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      ig and hootie (again)

just curious...
      who was it that posted the thing about hootie jumping into ctf in
mid-song?  sorry, but i forget who you are.  anyhow, which song and/or single
was this?  i think i might just have to go out and find that, so any info
would be appreciated. =)  peace, love, and birds on fire, sarah

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 08:04:06 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      re: ig and hootie (again)
x-to:         sanawike1@aol.com

i bought this single for my friend last week and was well amused when
they started playing ctf in the middle.  i don't remember the name of
the single, but it's their new release over here in the uk.  it comes
across as very rough around the edges (well to me it did).

anyway, does anyone know whether you can camp at the state park where
newport is being held?  i remember when i was in the us a few years
ago that state parks were open to campers, for free.  is the one for
newport the same type of thing, or are there any camping grounds
nearby?

constantly trying to reduce the expense on a transatlantic trip!

talk to you later :)

love helene


"steer clear of the shore,
the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 09:40:43 +0100
reply-to:     neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: ig and hootie (again)
x-to:         sanawike1@aol.com

hey :)

>who was it that posted the thing about hootie jumping into ctf in
>mid-song?

me :)

>anyhow, which song and/or single was this?

old man and me

track three: i only wanna be with you (live)
             it has no mention of ctf anywhere...

uk edition etcetc...

for general information and education...
other ig's cover versions out there:

fare thee well - david crosby. on the uk 'hero'
                 cd single. released in 1991 :)
tgwtwotwihh - eddi reader.
closer to fine - the wonder stuff.
welcome me - joan baez
closer...the aforementioned hootie...

and more??

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 09:50:53 +0100
reply-to:     neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         neily <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      re: columbia house
x-to:         d.perkin@access.texas.gov

>there is a part of the copyright laws that allows these types of
>clubs to purchase master tapes of artists works from the record
>companies (like sony).

not american, but i have some clue, so...this is what
i am led to understand, so it may not be right...but
please, correct me if i'm wrong...

1. sony owns columbia house (right??) i say this
   because only ch supplies sony products, not bmg...
   so obviously, companies are not _obliged_ to pass
   on mastertapes to whoever. so if they didn't make
   money then they wouldn't do this...so...

2. if they are purchasing the mastertapes (and artwork
   and all that goes with it) then the record company
   gets money for it, and i'm sure they wouldn't sell
   it for less than it's worth. it's like compilation
   cd's and certain reissues tracks are licenced for a
   set fee. if the record companies don't pass this on
   to the artist, it's not bmg/columbia house's prob..

am i right or close or so far off you can turn the
echo into a rainstorm??

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 08:40:36 edt
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      another fucking fan tour update

excuse my swedish.  i just wanted to test the new indecency act.

i have new prices for the best western in newport, which is the one i am
probably going to go with, because i have heard some pretty bad things about
holiday's pineapple inn and i would rather spend an extra $10 to be in a
clean, comfortable place than save it and be in a shithole (excuse my swedish
again).  the new rates are as follows:

friday & saturday nights - $160 per room/$40 per person per night

sunday night -             $120 per room/$30 per person per night

if you are interested, please send your money via check or money order mad
out to the following name and address asap (or by june 14 at the latest):

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj  07016
(908)418-7115

also, i hope to find out by the end of this week, whether we will be able to
get early-entrance passes or not.  talk to y'all soon.


there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 10:14:48 -0400
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         mtngrl6@aol.com
subject:      happy birthday!!! (may 21, 1996)
x-cc:         indymike@falcon.cc.ukans.edu, rainbow2@iinet.net.au

happy birthday jenni and mike!!

"the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously, it's only life afterall..."

"there's more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked
line
the less i seek my source for some definitive
the closer i am to fine..."

birthday folks:
indymike@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (mike)
rainbow2@iinet.net.au

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 15:19:11 +0100
reply-to:     mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      birthdays and farewells...

happy birthday to....me :):)

but the point...i'm out of here (like, forever) in a day or three, so i'm
trying to tie off any loose ends, so if i need to do anything for anyone and
i've forgotten, then prod me and i'll sort it...hopefully everyone is happy
with my neilyservice though...

so, i may be back one day, depending, but hey, anything important can be
directed to my wonderful (and unsuspecting) girlfriend from may 24 onward...
mcgrawan@pilot.msu.edu :):)

the pa list party will happen. maybe. indicated iv...i think rob has a track i
did that's unused, maybe if this happens he can send it on...a unique version
of my favourite, the untitled song, by, er, me, emily, and amy...i think rob
has the only master too...

champange to our real friends, and real pain to our sham friends...

special mention to i-girl (whoever and wherever you may be) for perfect postings
and the forgotton, but essential instigator of indicated...

to andi for getting me into this band, and for being there...three years of
igs (to the month...) and three songs that i want to marry. ghost, the untitled
song, and mystery...(and even more bigamously, baby can i hold you by tracy
chapman...saw her in london two days ago...go see her!!! she played for over
two and a half hours...one of the best gigs ever...but this is off the point
somewhat...)

and to listmasters past and present...jude...steven...etc...cheers!!
stars each and every one...

why does this sound like a bad awards ceremony??!!??

so, er...thassit...
so long, and thanks for all the chocolate...
and...in the words of the greatest song ever written...
'menuh menuh...do doo be do do...'

peace, love, and warm cuddley huggy moments...(you're supposed to cry now...)

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:):p:)

oh..in case of any confusion...i-girl is the forgotton indicated instigator...


  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)          'and in the end...
  |      |  the white house        the love you take
  |      |   old quay lane          is equal to
  | (o)(o)    st. germans            the love
  c      _)  saltash                  you make...
  |   __|   cornwall                   *guitary twiddley bit*'
  |   /    pl12 5lh                      @}--,--'---
/____\   england                        'and now...the end is near...'
/      \ +44 (0)1503 230505               'into the great wide open...'

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 09:34:48 -0500
reply-to:     amanda bakken <bakkena@stolaf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amanda bakken <bakkena@stolaf.edu>
subject:      kristen hall (nigc)
in-reply-to:  <960521101447_117980957@emout13.mail.aol.com>

okay, so my friends and i went to see kristen hall on saturday night
(wonderful wonderful wonderful), and now they are wondering where to get
her stuff.  i don't know, because i got it from a friend.  is her stuff
generally available at chain music stores? best buy, musicland, sam
goody, or is it hard to find, and will they need to order it from
somewhere?  if they need to order it from somewhere, does anyone have a
number or anything?
the concert was wonderful-it was for take back the night, and it was in a
small place, not too many people, it was beautiful.  i highly recommend
her music and concerts.  it was the best concert i'd seen since the ig
concert last spring, and this was almost as great.
amanda

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 11:40:26 -0500
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      birthdays and farewells...
x-to:         ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk

neily. neily. neily....

why are you leaving???? help; sos etc.

melissa

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 12:02:30 -0400
reply-to:     dmoulaison@aol.com
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from:         "derek k. moulaison" <dmoulaison@aol.com>
subject:      reunion - nigc
x-to:         hdtx97a@prodigy.com

hi everybody! sorry to hog bandwith but i just got back online after my move
here to indy from berkeley. so i'll make this short, hi! it's good to be
back.

derek , aka frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu now just an aol user.........

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 09:03:49 -0700
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      karen's trading update (nigc)

hi!  karen vittek here...sorry to post this to the whole list, but wanted to
keep all my bases covered...

i am moving in two and a half weeks!!!  if you are trading with me, this is
very important to you.

if i still need to send *you* tapes (blanks/trades): i hope to have them out
before i leave.  so you get a good deal here.

if you still need to send *me* trades: then you must either get them to me
at the address i've given you by june 9th or email me for my new address if
there is any chance they will not reach my by then!!  leave yourself an
extra week of factoring in for mailing time because the university's postal
system can slow things down incredibly.  priority mail has been known to
take two weeks reaching me at worst case...

if you still need to send *me* blanks: i will not, i repeat will not, have a
chance to get to them before i leave (unless they are at this very second
sitting on my floor, in which case i hope to have them done before i leave)
so you need to email me for my new snail mail address.

if i have sent *you* blanks and a sase:  if the sase full of tapes will not
reach me by june 9th, you need to email me for my new address to write on
the sase i sent.  this doesn't apply to very many people, but i can think of
*at least* one person it does apply to.

if you have any questions whatsoever: please email me directly, don't clog
the list.  if we're doing one of those trades and blanks mishmash deals,
email me, coz i may have to give you special instructions...


even if i have talked to you as recently as yesterday about your trade it
might be a good idea to email me and just check to see where we stand so
that we can make sure we have everything cleared up.


thanks everyone!  i will be losing my email address after about june 10th so
i'd like to get things all set by june 9th.

peace,

k

kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 13:44:55 edt
reply-to:     lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      re: just a few questions

>i-girl wrote:
>
>>also (little-known fact) the melodica is powered
>>by a unicycle.  the performer must pedal to supply
>>energy for the production of sound.  (faster pedaling

and sherlyn chimed in:

>i heard that they had rigged up some kind of contraption whereby instead
>of having to clear a space for the unicycle itself on the stage (all those
>cables etc can be a hazard for unicyclists, you know), jerry marotta
>actually had a pedal-powered generator  hidden inside his bass drum.

>i'm not sure exactly how it works when amy and emily play without
>jerry or sara along.  but if you ever see emily running offstage
>during the introduction to "dead man's hill", you'll know why.

actually, i have it from a very good source that when they aren't playing
"with the band" they use what is called a "wireless unicycle." this works
through infrared censors that are attatched to amy's legs. she powers the
unicycle with all that kicking and stomping she does. incidentally, this is
why (if you've ever noticed) amy's stomping is frequently nowhere _near_
keeping time with the actual music. she's just frantically trying to keep the
power up to that unicycle.
>
>oh, and in answer to the other questions - emily's mother is, of course,
>a librarian at (wait for it) - a library.  and amy says "way to count" because,

i know you all want more details than this, so i'll add what i know. emily's
mom is a librarian in a library in....georgia.


>ps - i'll see you all at newport!! :)

not if we see you first! :)  (sorry, couldn't resist that one. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...


lorinda wright           "i spent [10] years prostrate to the higher
lw01@lehigh.edu           mind, got my paper[s] and i was free. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 13:17:31 -0700
reply-to:     regina ruth shelley <rshelley@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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from:         regina ruth shelley <rshelley@oregon.uoregon.edu>
subject:      whois lurking?
x-to:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199605211744.naa106733@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

hey, i was just wondering if a &/or e ever lurk on this list?  have they
ever answered an actual question?  sorry, i'm new here and don't know the
history.

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 16:29:00 edt
reply-to:     "tracy weeks & several drooly (but loving) dogs"
              <clumber9@alliance.net>
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subject:      fugitive (dull & boring post... but at least
              =?iso-8859-1?q?it=92s?= igc)

        hey all!  i wasn't gonna' offer any "tracythoughts" on fugitive b/c my
interpretation is so vastly different than those i read some weeks ago... i
figured that i must have just misunderstood.  now, tho, i see that if this is so
-  i am in good company!
        i, too, hear "she lives in my soul and drinks of my wine, and i'd give
my last breath to keep us alive" as referring to fighting to keep one's "self"
alive.  a rather long battle (w/ no winner as yet) for me, and most especially
in the past year or so.  this line makes me consider that perhaps that "real
tracy" is something to try to hang onto... to the last breath, if necessary....
probably a good thing to remember now and again.  certainly not "what i
bargained for" either -- do y'all remember how easy it seemed as kids
planning who we were gonna' be when we grew up?  somewhere that gets
lost....  i am definitely not emma peel, despite my best childhood
intentions. :-)
         "so hide yourself for me, all for me"  hits me differently depending on
my mood.. sometimes i hear it as "i have to hide who i am just to survive"..
other times i hear it as being irony...  "hide who i am for me" which would
be opposite to the 1st interpretation, right?  yes, i confuse myself sometimes.
also, in the past few weeks i am interpreting this as coming from the outside
world as a *demand*, and i have to say that i find the offer in return of "and
i will hide myself for you, all for you" more chilling than reassuring...  i think
perhaps this sums up what  often goes wrong in relationships - whether
romantic, family, or whatever...  i hide who i really am *for* my loved one
(to protect her?  to make her happy?  to keep peace?) and then she may do
the same (for same reasons?) *for me* and pretty soon neither of us know
who we are involved with, nor who we are anymore...  it becomes a cycle
that is hard to break free of.  it becomes so easy to give up yourself... so hard
to remember who you started with, and who you are now.  i would love to
come to the point of "stood without clothes" (where in tracy's head 'clothes'
refers to the heaping on of other selves, but i may be weird), "danced in the
sand, i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned" (where 'damned'
would be the "real tracy" - thus being in a place where i could _accept_
myself) and be able to remind myself to "remember this as how it should be"
(thus getting a grip on who i really am, and making a pledge to remember
her, and not let go so easily next time).
        just my odd and skewed opinions. in no way am i suggesting this is
where amy was coming from - just what tracy feels in this song.   thanks for
trying to follow along!  don't ya' wish i'd stuck to lurking?!! lol

thoughts to all of you harbored fugitives...  ("harboured" for the canucks)
tracy  <still not a member of the bandwidth conservation society>
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*       you've gotta' try a little harder
*               that simply wasn't good enough
*       to make us proud..."
*                                         -- alanis morissette., "perfect"

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 16:39:34 -0400
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subject:      boots wanted

      ig list members,

          i was just wondering since i am a fairly new member
          to the list,if anyone has advertised any boots lately
          or has any availabe.  any ig stuff ot similar. it
          does'nt have to be the indigo girls. please put me up
          to date. thank you!

         "cause the cart is on a wheel,
          and the wheel is on a hill,
          and the hill is shifting sand"
          ferron

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subject:      re: song for the week (5/19-5/25) fugitive
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> okay everyone, this is fugitive week. get your thinking caps on, and give us
> some discussion on this song. if you've already posted a few weeks ago, go
> ahead and do it again for all of us who missed it. and if you don't want to
> read it again just delete the sotw posts.
>

boy howdy, chris has been stewing her brains out on this one and she
figures she may as well bring it up during fugitive week being how
fugitive is one of the main songs contributing to this thought thread . . .

a friend and i had been working way to long when we got into this big
conversation about the indigo girls, producing the following fascinating,
but long-winded and over-thought extrapolation.

part i:
consider for a moment ig love songs.  nearly all of them i can think of
contain an absence--the absence of the beloved.  to use my friend's
example, when gershwin writes a love song, the listener learns much about
the beloved--"the way you wear your hat . . . the way you sing off key,"
etc etc.  the beloved never shows up in ig girls songs like this.
rather, ig love songs are about how the lover *feels* about the beloved.
think, for example, fugitive, strange fire, fare thee well, ghost, left
me a fool, etc., etc.  the actual beloved rarely shows up in these
songs.  and even more interestingly, when the beloved does show up, s/he
appears as a ghost, shallot, a mystery, hidden ("hide yourself"),
taillights blazing into nothingness, and
all sorts of vaporous shadowy images.  we never get to actually look at the
person being loved, but rather get an intimate close look at the lover.

part ii:
how is it, exactly, that absent lovers get translated into objects of
spirituality, or at least objects around which spirituality is
encountered?  huh? you say, with inquisitive looks on your collective
cyber-faces.  consider ghost, "i am baptised by your touch...," the
entirity of "strange fire," the last verse of fugitive (interesting, too,
that she is naked and dancing alone!)

here's my theory, in two parts.

a)  ig lovers never appear in their music partly because of concern for
their private lives.  fugitive is all about this, the hidden lover, the
ramifications of public life on private love.  both amy and emily have
spoken much about their concern for their own privacy, we talk about it
list-wide, and i can imagine that being queer and public can only make
the issue more pressing.

b)  from my perspective, atheist/agnostic that i am, it seems that
spirituality is all about filling spaces inside ourselves.  humans seem
to be born with an emptiness, a longing for something more, a sense of
isolation.  it has been called many things, existential angst, lack
(jaques lacan), penis envy, what have you, but when it comes down to it,
all of us are searching for something more and something greater than
ourselves.  we fill this up with the variety of things we call "god."  it
seems, too, that we fill this up in much the same way with the variety of
things we call "love."  perhaps this is the crossing point of absent
lovers and spirituality?  hmm . . .

please respond, folks, am i completely loopy?

peas and absent lovers,
chris ii

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subject:      ig video

hello all...

        i was going through some old video tapes and found ig on david
letterman when ig/ig was released...
now, i'd be willing to make copies of this in exchange for any ig video
stuff ya'll may have. i.e. ig on leno, pat sajak <had this and lost it
somehow>, snl or any other shows...
i also have the following: ig at the uptown lounge, jcs and waiting for
watershed in the mail.
     so, if anyone is out there that's interested, please e-mail me!!

                                                     thanks,
                                                            kim
~nine more days 'til amy comes out to play
~i count down on nine fingers...

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subject:      nigc- ani reviews

more reviews about ani, not by amy tho':
and more and more and more....
today i found dilate reviews in the june issue of out magazine w/the cute
picture of melissa etheridge & julie cypher on the cover & the june issue of
interview magazine w/the shot of patti smith on the cover. i can't decide
whether or not i enjoyed the reviews more than the new adverts for ck with
antonio sabatos jr in his underwear....but i'm leaning towards the calvin
klein ads, i mean, i have the album so screw the reviews.

a purty little post running in it's underwear. in the woods. squealing like a
pig. love,
r
i
  c
    k
a flame-free joe.

...antonio sabatos jr in his calvins...  i need some ice...

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subject:      indigo swirls

hi all.  nope, no fan tour info this time.  instead, i want to repost
something i started up a while ago, but had to put on the back burner once i
decided to organize the nojf fan tour.  i would like to start a letter
writing campaign to get ben & jerry's to create an ice cream flavor named
after indigo girls and hopefully get them to announce it if not unveil it
completely at the upcoming newport folk festival.

my friends and i have come up with a flavor, but i don't have such a big ego
that i am not open to suggestions.  the flavor that we have come up with is
called indigo swirls crunch or just indigo swirls.  it would consist of
vanilla (or any variant of vanilla), chocolate-covered blueberries
(optional), grape nuts cereal (optional), and a variety of fruit-flavored
swirls, representing every color of the rainbow.

i would appreciate it if you could limit your replies to flavor suggestions
as well as ideas about approaching ben & jerry's with this idea.  i have a
name and address of someone high up in the company and i figured that
everyone could send a letter addressed to ben & jerry's homemade inc c/o my
address and then i could send one huge package filled with hundreds of
letters.  i think that might make a better impression than a flow of
individual letters.  what do you think?  suggestions should be posted
publicly, unless there is a general consensus that contradicts that.  this
way, other listmembers could post their comments (which we are all very good
at) and ideas can be improved upon.  i would like to get this rolling asap,
so that everyone can get their letters to me hopefully, by the beginning or
middle of june.  do not send a letter until we have arrived at a consensus
over the name of the flavor and its ingredients.  i am satisfied with indigo
swirls, but if there is a better idea out there (which i am sure that there
is), then i would like to hear about it.

i look forward to receiving your ideas and suggestions.  talk to y'all soon.


there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      nearest airport to newport

does anybody know what the nearest airport to newport, ri is?  i don't intend
to fly, but the info would be helpful.  talk to y'all soon.


there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      nigc basilica block party - minneapolis?

does anyone in minneapolis know who else, besides golden smog, will be
appearing at this year's basilica block party? and on what nights those
other bands will be appearing? is tina & the b-side movement going to
play there again this year? thanks in advance...

eddie

lawyerman's world wide web page | calendar of kansas city area music
http://www.sky.net/~eml/        | http://www.sky.net/~eml/kcmusic.html

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subject:      kerrville camps

just for fun - i thought y'all might like to see the list of top ten camps
at kerrville in 1995 - its definitely a group thang - and you wander from
campsite to campsite listening to music all night long.
but these are a few of the 'best'.
    10. camp dysfunctional
     9. camp paranoia [no one knows
     where it is]
     8. camp stand it
     7. camp where you least expect it
     6. camp dyslyrical [these folks never sing the verses in the same order]
     5. shut up and camp [no whining]
     4. camp all you want
     3. camp like you want it
     2. camp at your own risk [lawyers]
     1. camp phaux phenique

waiting on kerrville folk festival now...,

karen

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subject:      re: indigo swirls
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yuck on the grape nuts idea.  i like the bluberries idea though.  but, if
you have b&g name a flavor that is in specific reference to ig, don't a&e
have to approve of the use of their name in association with the
product?  if that's the case, then maybe they should be the ones to
decide on the flavor.

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subject:      jcs-update

today i got the first tape for our little jcs project. if anyone else there
wants to partcipate in making the tape please send your tapes to
       ben slavin
     po box 394
    chatsworth,nj
         08019
thanks alot,
ben

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organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      "fred mann's still"...continued

good evening, fellow ig listers!

i was sitting in my room, playing my guitar (aka procrastinating),
when i began to strum the chords to "dead man's hill."  that made me
think about kim and tracy's parody posts, so i pulled out the
printout.  looking down through the song, i realized that the last
verse was missing.  the old gears in my brain began to turn, and
well, _something_ was created.

here is kim's part:

we were down at fred mann's still
  sipping jars of good rot-gut
looking through our glassy eyes
  at the percoltatin' stuff
you told me of crashing cars
  on the way from late night bars
i told you what i feel most...
  drunkards shouldn't ought to boast, 'bout driven...

don't you take yer keys
  remember to... la la la

to which, tracy added:

  remember to des-ig-nate
don't drink a pitcher
  remember your way back home
don't leave a mess here
  walk that straight line for me
touch your hands to your face...  (can you find your face?)

lying on the floor in some strange place
  gawd my head is ringing...
barking dogs and garbage trucks
  and the sound of my upchucks...
we watched the bonfires in the sky...
  from the still, it blew up high..
call for help, while i run fast
  promises that i'll stay sober forever...
    yeah - i'll stay sober for ever....

(chorus)

then i added:

my head feels like it's on fire,
  i don't think i could be higher
standing underneath the shower,
  for what feels like an hour
empty cans of beer remain,
  well, i guess i can't complain
on the remains of fred mann's still,
  this is all that's left of it, forever

<groan>  i never claimed to be a poet or a songwriter. :)

anna

--
gotta get out of bed get a hammer and a nail
learn how to use my hands, not just my head
                  -emily saliers

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date:         tue, 21 may 1996 21:21:01 -0500
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from:         molly jane b murphy <julj03a@prodigy.com>
subject:      boots wanted

i have some ellen james society stuff on the way.  if you're
interested i'll e-mail you when i get them.

gwen

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 20 may 1996 to 21 may 1996 - special
              issue

i hate wasting space like this...but there is a lovely person out there who
lives in seattle who taped in with the out crowd for me and i owe you a copy
of purple parrot but i have not got your address and name...mea culpa ...
mail me, k?

thanks

larissa

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subject:      indigo girls

i love the girls!! are there any news updates or tour info i could get?
thanks!!
sherry

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subject:      what's the buzz???

we just finished watching jcs and need to know, what's the what's the
buzz thing???  the one they said was coming soon, at the end, this summer??

- elizabeth (whose account this is)
- sue (whose video it was - pst4@aol.com, soon to be
        sorsill@okway.okstate.edu)

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subject:      re: nearest airport to newport

bert was inquiring as to the closest airport to newport.
there may be a small airport in newport, but i don't believe
they have jet service.  the closest airport that has jet service
is providence, ri.  the next closest would probably be boston.

providence, ri is about 25 minutes from newport.  boston is
about 1.5 hours.  these times are just estimates.  does anyone
have more accurate times?

cya'll,
- - howdy

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subject:      fan tours & tapes

what store in new hope was that?

gwen

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subject:      5/4  uno show boot - anyone?

hi all,

i've been enjoying this list for a couple of months now...and have yet to
step up and post a message.  so here goes - 'cause i just gotta get out of
lurking mode to see if anybody's going to set up a tape tree for the uno
show.  we've all heard how...well..."fucking beautiful" it was....i'm just
hoping that we might be able to enjoy it all over again.    please.    :)

also, i noticed that earlier today, 5/20, nancy wrote:

>i was catching up on my newsgroups and came across an interesting post.
>on the ig newsgroup - someone has a dat recording of the uno show and
>is looking for someone to help with a tape tree. i don't have any dat
>equipment, so i didn't bother to reply to the post. if any of you are
>interested you may want to check it out.
>nancy humphries
>nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

sounds like there's a great recording out there.  unfortunately, i don't have
dat equipment either....so if anybody figures out how to convert on
this...i'd like to humbly beg that they point me (and anybody else who's
interested) in the right direction to a tape tree.

cheers,  anne

the beauty just keeps shaking me...

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subject:      ig net happenings

just got one of my email newsletters that had a couple of items on the girls
that i thought y'all might be interested in.

****************
cu-seeme
****************
on saturday, june 1, monsterbit media will feature a day of cu-seeme
broadcast.  coordinating their efforts with seattle-based realaudio and
cu-seeme shareward software (available at the site).  they will begin the
broadcast day at 3 pm eastern time and run through 11 pm eastern time.  tune
in to the broadcast at any time by pointing your web browser to
cuseeme.monsterbit.com

the first of these events will include performances by jimmie dale gillmore
on his "treat me like a saturday night" tour, moksha record's viva la diva,
and michael lorant and sheila doyle of big fish and amy ray of indigo girls.
they will also broadcast panel highlights from the 1996 south by southwest
music conference.

************************
honor the earth
************************
monsterbit media is sponsoring the official www site of honor the earth.
honor the earth is a campaign that works on environmental issues with local
and indiginous grassroots organizations.

to promote a fuller undertanding of honor the earth, phase i of the web site
will be posted in june.  this section will describe their history, mission
and work raising financial resources for grassroots organizations on the 1995
honor the earth tour.  phase 1 will also include the development of www sites
for the indigenous women's network and the seventh generation fund . . .
sponsors for last year's tour.

coinciding with the release of the honor the earth compilation cd, phase ii
of the www site will be posted in august.  the cd comes out august 19th on
daemon records (http://monsterbit.com/daemon/) and features releases from
jane siberry, matthew sweet, indigo girls, luka bloom, exene cervenka, toad
the west sprocket, rosanne cash, joy harjo, poetic justice, bruce cockburn
and many others.

for more details, check out http://honorearth.com/

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subject:      nigc: new web site 4 poetry/lit fans

howdy y'all! just wanted to let you know that your beloved list hedgehog is
on a new website from the good folks at hidden water, (they host the ig
lifeblood site as well as numerous other cool folk artists such as carolyn
aiken, ejs, etc). thanks to the briliance of those divas at hw, my
poetry/lit magazine called _wala_ (negative existential particle)_  is on
line. check it out, and you can even see a picture of me, my significant
other (who was born in atlanta), and several of my other pals...although
they are sorta out of date ;) you'll know what i mean if you take a peek!
here it is,

http://hidwater.com/wala/
________________________________________________
karen l. tongson
hedgehog extraordinaire,
diva of electronic emissions, dyke music junkie,
lit. aficionado and all around
product of suburban psychosis. ;-/
________________
ktongson@ucla.edu

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subject:      re: fugitive (dull & boring post... but at least it$s igc)

tracy weeks wrote:
<long interesting bits snipped>
>         $so hide yourself for me, all for me$  hits me differently
>depending on
>my mood.. sometimes i hear it as $i have to hide who i am just to survive$.
>.
>other times i hear it as being irony...  $hide who i am for me$ which would
>be opposite to the 1st interpretation, right?  yes, i confuse myself
>sometimes...
not necessarily. the way i see it, the line is part of the whole inner
dialogue that's going on throughout the song -- so from my point of view,
amy's asking *herself* (her "true self", that is) to hide, so that she
(amy) might be able make all the compromises that turn life into both a curse
and a blessing -- and in exchange, she (outer self) will hide when it's
time for her (inner self) to come out. as tracy goes on to point out, this
process is not always a good thing -- but i think the song acknowledges that
it's part of the treacherous game we call life.
btw, i thought chris's theory about ig love songs was very interesting,
although i don't think _fugitive_ is addressed to a lover at all! of course
, as it has been remarked many a time, the wonderful thing about ig songs
is that they are just ambiguous enough so that you can have endless fun coming
up with your own interpretations, then entertain multiple conflicting
theories without the need to worry as to whether they are correct --
there's *no* right answer to anything.

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subject:      postscript to that

if i really wanted to break chris's theory, i'd mention _power of two_...
but i don't, so i won't. :)

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subject:      re: song for the week (5/19-25) fugitive

on tue, 21 may 96 14:59:50 -0600, chris talbot wrote:

-----------begin quoted material---------------------

part i:
consider for a moment ig love songs.  nearly all of them i can think of
contain an absence--the absence of the beloved.  to use my friend's
example, when gershwin writes a love song, the listener learns much
about
the beloved--"the way you wear your hat . . . the way you sing off
key,"
etc etc.  the beloved never shows up in ig girls songs like this.
rather, ig love songs are about how the lover *feels* about the
beloved.
think, for example, fugitive, strange fire, fare thee well, ghost, left
me a fool, etc., etc.  the actual beloved rarely shows up in these
songs.  and even more interestingly, when the beloved does show up,
s/he
appears as a ghost, shallot, a mystery, hidden ("hide yourself"),
taillights blazing into nothingness, and
all sorts of vaporous shadowy images.  we never get to actually look at
the
person being loved, but rather get an intimate close look at the lover.

part ii:
how is it, exactly, that absent lovers get translated into objects of
spirituality, or at least objects around which spirituality is
encountered?  huh? you say, with inquisitive looks on your collective
cyber-faces.  consider ghost, "i am baptised by your touch...," the
entirity of "strange fire," the last verse of fugitive (interesting,
too,
that she is naked and dancing alone!)

here's my theory, in two parts.

a)  ig lovers never appear in their music partly because of concern for
their private lives.  fugitive is all about this, the hidden lover, the
ramifications of public life on private love.  both amy and emily have
spoken much about their concern for their own privacy, we talk about it
list-wide, and i can imagine that being queer and public can only make
the issue more pressing.

b)  from my perspective, atheist/agnostic that i am, it seems that
spirituality is all about filling spaces inside ourselves.  humans seem
to be born with an emptiness, a longing for something more, a sense of
isolation.  it has been called many things, existential angst, lack
(jaques lacan), penis envy, what have you, but when it comes down to
it,
all of us are searching for something more and something greater than
ourselves.  we fill this up with the variety of things we call "god."
it
seems, too, that we fill this up in much the same way with the variety
of
things we call "love."  perhaps this is the crossing point of absent
lovers and spirituality?  hmm . . .

please respond, folks, am i completely loopy?

peas and absent lovers,
chris ii

--------------------end quoted material----------------------------

actually, chris, absent lovers go better with garlic mashed potatoes
than peas...

seriously, however, both of your theories have merit -- imnsho, theory
a is almost certainly correct (cf. melissa etheridge, who -- for the
most part, both before and after she outed herself -- tends to blur the
identity of the loved one in her music as well); as for theory b, since
i'm, truth to tell, more theist (i.e., i believe in a supreme
being/divine force but don't subscribe to any particular religion,
though because of my upbringing my theism is "informed" by christianity
of one stripe or another; when folk ask i usually say in a vain attempt
to appear flippant and glib "i believe in  god; i just don't like a lot
of her rules...") than agnostic, i would argue that what we usually
call "love" is an attempt to become one with a (or _the_) divine
force.....

you ain't loopy.

sampai jumpa,
rahadyan

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subject:      re: song for the week (5/19-5/25) fugitive

hey y'all,
at 02:59 pm 5/21/96 -0600, chris wrote:

<kim's scissors are a blur as she snips hastily through all of chris'
insightful musings... cutting to the chase... >
>b)  from my perspective, atheist/agnostic that i am, it seems that
>spirituality is all about filling spaces inside ourselves.  humans seem
>to be born with an emptiness, a longing for something more, a sense of
>isolation.
warning... incoming "christian" viewpoint... i repeat : incoming "christian"
viewpoint!!!!! <sirens + horns and air raid alarms a'plenty>
me... i believe in creation ( hey - i'm way to impressed by the things
around me to think they could've just *happened*... everything points to an
intelligent "being" behind it all...  ). i believe we were all created with
that "empty place" chris talks about... our spirituality. we were meant to
look for a meaning to our lives + to worship. if'n we don't take care of
that spiritual side to our intrinsic nature
( physical/emotional/spiritual ) we do not feel whole. when we aren't whole,
we just "aren't right". so... if we overbalance and fill up our spiritual
"slot" ( for lack of a better term ) with all the longing and hurt and
wonder etc etc etc that comes with romantic love ( compared to love of
friends or family, or even of humankind in general ) i think chris' theory
holds water big time. that love in translation would take on spiritual
qualities.
however, correct me if i'm wrong... but don't e + a have fairly religious
backgrounds ... and aren't they religious??? so then ( assuming i'm correct
)... there would be no void for either to fill. so where might the
"spiritual quality" of their songs come from? my theory is: ( drum roll
please )it's the age old "write what you know" thang. if'n the girls have
religious backgrounds, no matter what they have brought to their lives as
adults,  their thoughts are set to a certain synapsis pattern that was
instilled in them from birth. this thought leads to that thought which
naturally leads to this.... etc etc etc. they can't help but bring a
spiritual nature to their songs... or probably even to the way they speak in
day to day life.
or, hey... maybe it's intentional :- ) who knows???
anyway... that's my ho... thanks fer puttin' up with me. flame at will... i
am asbestosized and fear thee not!!!!
peace eh?... kim.
<kim fischer>
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date:         wed, 22 may 1996 10:41:00 -0400
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subject:      re: semi-sob story & ig article

hmm.   i'll never pass up a friend forever but i think you may have the
wrong melissa.

just out to your beautiful state.   went to zion and did the backcountry.
  totally
awesome!!!!    all i kept thinking was "world falls" lyrics.

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date: wednesday, may 15, 1996 5:55pm

<<file attachment: headers.txt>>

hi melissa:

can i have a copy of the joan/ig/joan article?  i'll be your friend
forever if you send it . . .

chris talbot
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
        --kevin smith

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subject:      newport entrance pass??

hi everyone!

right now i am very busy planning my trip to the us  (thanks karen and
rachel for inviting me!!) and am wondering if anyone can give me information
how to get a entrancepass for newport. i've heart i can go in without one
but is that true??
is there some kind of a gathering before the concert??? could someone tell
me pleaaase: i have to know because i'm coming over all the way from
holland... and is someone familiar to providence and knows a (low budget)
place to stay???

i know i may sound impolite to ask (again) help from you all arranging my
holiday. but: i think you will give me better information than a dutch
travelorganisation will be able to!!!

i hope to hear from you :)
florine

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subject:      nigc - dar williams

does anyone have chords or tab to any dar williams music? i would be
eternally greatful. thanks!

derek

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subject:      re: song for the week (5/19-5/25) fugitive
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> ( physical/emotional/spiritual ) we do not feel whole. when we aren't whole,
> we just "aren't right". so... if we overbalance and fill up our spiritual
> "slot" ( for lack of a better term ) with all the longing and hurt and
> wonder etc etc etc that comes with romantic love ( compared to love of
> friends or family, or even of humankind in general ) i think chris' theory
> holds water big time. that love in translation would take on spiritual
> qualities.
> however, correct me if i'm wrong... but don't e + a have fairly religious
> backgrounds ... and aren't they religious??? so then ( assuming i'm correct
> )... there would be no void for either to fill.

i would agree that they may have fairly religious backgrounds, amy's papa
is a street preacher (see uptown lounge) and emily's father is a
professor of divinity at emory.  however, i'm fairly certain neither of
them actually practice christian religion with any consistency.  there
are moments in their careers when they have refered to themselves as one
religion or another, mostly emily claiming methodism.  but my real point
is that religious or not, spiritual or not god-fearing or not, my sense
of myself at least is that there is always a void to fill, it is a void
too large for anything--even god--to fill completely.  there are moments
in my life where i have felt full-up with god, but they usually don't
last.  if humans could fill themselves with religion and love for
humanity, we would stop searching, stop pushing ourselves, stop seeking
for more--more love, more of god, more of ourselves.  i would hate to
never have a void to fill.

so where might the
> "spiritual quality" of their songs come from? my theory is: ( drum roll
> please )it's the age old "write what you know" thang. if'n the girls have
> religious backgrounds, no matter what they have brought to their lives as
> adults,  their thoughts are set to a certain synapsis pattern that was
> instilled in them from birth. this thought leads to that thought which
> naturally leads to this.... etc etc etc. they can't help but bring a
> spiritual nature to their songs... or probably even to the way they speak in
> day to day life.

yeah, me too.  i was brought up crazy mormon, i have the same synapses.
maybe it's just me!  but it does seem to me to be too consistent and too
well done to be unintentional.  and besides which, methinks synapses, too,
can be overcome . . .
peace and good mileage, christians rule.
chris ii

> or, hey... maybe it's intentional :- ) who knows???
> anyway... that's my ho... thanks fer puttin' up with me. flame at will... i
> am asbestosized and fear thee not!!!!

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subject:      ani interview questions anyone? (nighc)

hey y'all--

since there's been so much ani talk lately and i know that lots of y'all
are big fans, i thought i'd take a stab at asking  for help from y'all.
i'm going to be interviewing ani difranco on either june 7 or 8, and i was
hoping some of you might have some really cool questions that you think
would be good for me to ask her.....so any deep burning questions causing
you to lose slep sleep and wonder if you will actually be able to live
another day floating around our um out there?  or maybe just some general
interviewing advice from some experienced folks out there (i've never
interviewed anyone before.....what a person to start with, eh?)  i'd really
appreciate any help, thanks y'all.

peace,
cylinda

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subject:      re: what's the buzz???
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amy wanted to do an atlanta jcs show before the olympics.. sharon told
everyone about this a while back..looks like they're aiming for the fall.
november i think,

miranda

on tue, 21 may 1996, elizabeth meadows wrote:

> we just finished watching jcs and need to know, what's the what's the
> buzz thing???  the one they said was coming soon, at the end, this summer??
>
>  - elizabeth (whose account this is)
>  - sue (whose video it was - pst4@aol.com, soon to be
>         sorsill@okway.okstate.edu)
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subject:      fugitive

well..shows what i know..i always assumed that this song was meant to go
to a lover... the whole premise of hiding yourself, and we swore to our
self we'd go to the end of the world..are they coming at us with cameras
or guns??  sounds to me like someone telling a partner..this might not be
what we thought it was gonna be but stick with me ok?  once you get in
the public eye, thats what you become..public property..everyone wants to
knows you and everything there is to know about you.  no one asks if
you want the world to know what kind of underware you wear...i feel amys'
asking her lady to please save that certain bit that was just "them" from
the public..just save it for her..and even if she has to adapt a public
persona, she  still asks  ..if you hide yourself for me then i'll hide
yourself you and only you will know that part of me... that that is the
only way the reltionship is gonna make it..
so call me a romantic...

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subject:      boot check

back at school our e-mail system crashed and i lost all the names of who i
was trading with. now that i'm home and i have all day long to tape boots i
need everyones address. if i owe you a boot please send me your address and
what tapes you wanted. sorry to disturb the list  once again. i guess my
posts are getting more and more boring. maybe it's because of old age. oh,
could someone also repost the phone number of rainy day to me. thank you.
love the unimaginative
ben

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subject:      lsmtp?  what's that?
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has anyone been getting tags on their list message headers saying "via lsmpt
- see www.lsoft.com"?

is this to do with changes made to my college's mail server?   or is it the
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subscirbe

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subject:      tv listings

ok folks, it's help andrew time (promise this doesn't cost anyone anything,
except a few moments of your time!)

a few months back i stumbled across a site on the web, that gave a weeks
worth of listings for music shows on u.s. tv channels, but like a moron (!)
i lost the url, and have been unable to find it since. can anyone please
help??

hopefully

andrew

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subject:      so we're okay....

.......we're fine!!
       subscribe indigo girls.

       where are all the i.g fans from the u.k

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subject:      nigc guitar chords

uh oh, lorindigo's contributing one of those annoying little nigc posts...
i'll make it up to y'all. i promise. ;)

if anyone out there knows the chords to _any_ melissa ferrick songs, i'd be
extrordinarily grateful if you'd share them with me. also, catie curtis's
"radical" or any dar williams (i know iowa, and christians and pagans, so i
could share those with people, but other than that...)

please? :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

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lw01@lehigh.edu           mind, got my paper[s] and i was free. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.

                  i will not be complacent

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subject:      re: tv listings (nigc)

after seeing several requests like this (e.g., the ones beginning with
"sorry to bother everyone on the list with this..."), i feel compelled to
say something about them.
*learn*to*use*a*web*search*engine*, people! you'll save yourself time,
because you won't be depending on others to obtain information you could
find on your own. and you'll save yourself the wrath of those on this list
who take less lenient attitudes towards bandwidth-wasting than i. ;)

kirsten -- grinning, ducking, running, asbestosizing, and making up for
this particular waste of bandwidth by using lynx instead of netscape.

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subject:      a point to ponder

is there a very big difference between
grape nuts and gravel?

wondering,
i-girl

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subject:      re: a point to ponder

on wed, 22 may i-girl wrote:

> is there a very big difference between
> grape nuts and gravel?

gravel contains more minerals. :)
anna

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in message wed, 22 may 1996 15:12:33 -0500,
  iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu  writes:

> is there a very big difference between
> grape nuts and gravel?
>
> wondering,
> i-girl
>
>
yes , gravel doesn't break your teeth when you bite into it !!


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on wed, 22 may 1996, derek k. moulaison wrote:

> does anyone have chords or tab to any dar williams music? i would be
> eternally greatful. thanks!
>
> derek

this may have been posted already (i tend to bop on and off this list
when i get too busy to read everything), but there's a dar list that
frequently has chords and stuff.  it's not *nearly* as busy as this list,
and comes in regular or digest.  to subscribe, send a message to
majordomo@world.std.com with the message subscribe dar-list.

- elizabeth :)

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on wed, 22 may 1996 iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu wrote:

> is there a very big difference between
> grape nuts and gravel?
>
*sigh*  i have had to defend grape nuts so many times in my life.  i love
them.  i'd much rather have grape nuts and milk than gravel and milk.  of
course, i never have known exactly what a grape nut is.  are there any
scientific definitions out there?
peace,
january

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subject:      re: ani's new cd

x-shameless cd-plug: cindy lee berryhill, straight outta marysville
lines: 16

mrobert824@aol.com wrote:

>rainy day is getting a shipment of them in, right now, as we speak, most
>likely.. they are getting lots of them, give them a call if you want it and
>can't get it anyplace else..  i should have mine by thursday.. *grin*

i love rainy day, but if you're gonna call an 800 # to get ani's cds, call
her label (righteous babe, which she established for self-distribution) at
1-800-on-her-own so that ani doesn't have to split her well-deserved
profits with middlemen.

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in a message dated 96-05-22 18:46:06 edt, simpson@hanover.edu (<no value set:
using january simpson) writes:

>on wed, 22 may 1996 iggy@hopper.library.nwu.edu wrote:
>
>> is there a very big difference between
>> grape nuts and gravel?
>>
>*sigh*  i have had to defend grape nuts so many times in my life.  i love
>them.  i'd much rather have grape nuts and milk than gravel and milk.  of
>course, i never have known exactly what a grape nut is.  are there any
>scientific definitions out there?
>peace,
>january

oddly enough, january, grape nuts is just another term for gravel.
;)

a post from the edge.
well, close to the edge.
   okay, i can see the edge from here...
r
i
  c
    k
a flame-free joe.

*when i say you sucked my brain out the english translation is i am in love
with you and it is no fun....*
ani

(we've got ani!!)

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subject:      re: indigo swirls

finally, some igc that has moved me to respond.  must be about food...

indigboy wrote:
>my friends and i have come up with a flavor, but i don't have such a big ego
>that i am not open to suggestions.  the flavor that we have come up with is
>called indigo swirls crunch or just indigo swirls.  it would consist of
>vanilla (or any variant of vanilla), chocolate-covered blueberries
>(optional), grape nuts cereal (optional), and a variety of fruit-flavored
>swirls, representing every color of the rainbow.

then rshelly wrote:
>yuck on the grape nuts idea.  i like the bluberries idea though.  but, if
>you have b&g name a flavor that is in specific reference to ig, don't a&e
>have to approve of the use of their name in association with the
>product?  if that's the case, then maybe they should be the ones to
>decide on the flavor.

i would have to agree with rshelly on the grape nuts.  i sort of have an idea
for a flavor, though.  how about blueberry and vanilla frozen yogurt swirled
together with the chocolate-covered blueberries and some type of nuts, like
maybe pistacchios.  i hate to be a pessimist, but to develop and market this
new flavor would probably take much time and would not be ready for the
august fest.  maybe next year, though.

...the lonliest boy in the western world, cruising the streets for an ice
cream girl...- lloyd cole

...your love is better than ice cream...- sarah mclachlan

sheri : )

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subject:      the grape nuts vs. gravel debate of 96

>is there a very big difference between grape nuts and gravel?

yes. gravel doesnt wear your car tires down as quickly.


melissa
"who really does like grape nuts"

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all right, i really like the name indigo swirls for the ice cream. i only
want to mention in my oh so humble opinion that blueberrys don't do so
well in processed foods. the blueberrys in blueberry yogurt are like little
nasty chewy lumps so i don't buy that flavor.
i expect people will flame me for this opinion, oh well...

as for grape nuts, bwahahahahaha!

paulal

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subject:      grape nuts

>*sigh*  i have had to defend grape nuts so many times in my life.  i
love them.  i'd much rather have grape nuts and milk than gravel and
milk.  of course, i never have known exactly what a grape nut is.
are there any scientific definitions out there?

first of all, i can't believe we're trying to differentiate between
gravel & grape nuts.  i thought they were the same thing.

isn't grape nuts used on the hull of the enterprise on star trek?
they must be tougher than photon torpedoes.

melissa

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i am with all of you grape nut lovers.  they are my favorite breakfast.
4 out of 6 of my co-workers pick on me endlessly for eating them.  but i
say, "be proud of natural wheat and barley cereal, that doesn't need toy
surprises or cartoon characters to sell it!!!"

-jessi

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>from:  m gordon[smtp:hdtx97a@prodigy.com]
>sent:  wednesday, may 22, 1996 5:21 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       grape nuts
>
>>*sigh*  i have had to defend grape nuts so many times in my life.  i
>love them.  i'd much rather have grape nuts and milk than gravel and
>milk.  of course, i never have known exactly what a grape nut is.
>are there any scientific definitions out there?
>
>first of all, i can't believe we're trying to differentiate between
>gravel & grape nuts.  i thought they were the same thing.
>
>isn't grape nuts used on the hull of the enterprise on star trek?
>they must be tougher than photon torpedoes.
>
>melissa
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subject:      re: grape nuts (nigc)

jessica owens <a-jessio@microsoft.com> wrote:
>i am with all of you grape nut lovers.  they are my favorite breakfast.
>4 out of 6 of my co-workers pick on me endlessly for eating them.
so maybe if you guys spent less time arguing about grape-nuts, then word 6
for the mac would fit on fewer than 13 floppy disks?
:)
kirsten

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subject:      ani (migc)

ok, the igc was a bit of a stretch but this was just too much...

i called ticketmaster in seattle to get info on the ticket availability
for ani's two shows in canada (victoria and vancouver) on thurs and fri
this week. tm woman gave me info about the friday show and then told me to
call the theatre in victoria cause they werent handling that show. i then
called the victoria venue and they told me about their tickets.  i called
my friend and he said he'd rather go to the friday show (which kinda upset
me cause i wanted to see her in the smaller venue, on thursday night). but
he is driving, so i didnt have too much to say...

ok, so i call ticketmaster in seattle back and what's the song playing?
indigo girls singing uncle john's band. boggle that one! i actually heard
the entire song while on hold. weeeeeird.

is that a sign from some higher power that this friday will be an extra
good show? :) :) i am really excited. wooo!

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subject:      in with the out crowd/days of wine and roses

howdy, fellow listers!
i know that some of you fortunate ones out there have "in with the out crowd"
and/or
"days of wine and roses" (i swear).  if any of you really nice people =)
would be willing to tape me a copy, i have a couple of boots that i could
trade.  here goes...
on cd:
blood and fire, complicated girls, nothing to hide, uptown girls
on tape:
purple parrot, blue food, tuesday's children, color me grey, neily's indigo
originals,
may 8, 1995 madison wi, and erie, pa 4-95 (nice chickenman soc!).
thanks in advance!
...running from school,
carrie (indigoponygirl)

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subject:      what was really me/should have never crossed your path

hi again, y'all.  does anyone know the correct title for the emily song
mentioned above?
i have a boot that calls it "what was really me", but the new ep and more cd
(which i
unfortunately don't have) apparently calls it "should have never crossed your
path".
while i am (virtually) here, i have another question.  on "life's so
strange", can anyone
fill in the blank  "there are moments when i'm with ________, and there are
days when
i have to take the bus"  ??  just wondering...it's been hovering in the back
of my mind
for some time now.  thanks!  =)

carrie (indigoponygirl)
"he's our honorary woman: jerry marotta!"  --emily

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subject:      fugitive....
x-cc:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>

the *romantic* also known as  pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>; misunderstood my
comments on fugitive somewhat and bellowed in frustration:
        "well..shows what i know..i always assumed that this song was meant
to go to a lover.."

romantic pat (rp?)....  no no no... i was never at all meaning that the way
i hear this is the "main" way or (certainly not!) the only way it can be
interpretted!  as many note often, a wonderful thing about ig is how the
same lines can mean different things to different people, or even at
different times!  for instance... fugitive.  i can hear your perspective
just fine in it!!  i can also hear it as a plea to escape the spotlight...
what i was sharing is more about where *i* am when i listen to it, not where
amy was when she wrote it.  this has everything to do with what i am
relating to when hearing the words, and very little to do with what was
"intended".  we are *all* 100% correct in our interpretations b/c we are all
correct in how we feel.  feelings are not right or wrong, and feelings are
what songs evoke (good songs, anyway).
        i loved your interpretation!!!  truly!  thanks for sharing!!  don't
ever stop!

tracy
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from:         vida <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>
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subject:      re: pictures of ig

yes i agree

being an a person (any woman who has a voice like amy's has got to be
listened to) i have not ever found a *really* good full on front shot
of her.  if anyone has got one could they put it on the net
somewhere so those of us who aren't living in the us can get access
to it   -  please!


sue

> i am leaving for home on saturday, so this will probably be my last post.
>
> however, my obsessive-compulsive personality has lead me to ask this one
> last question.
>
> i have been looking at the many ig pictures that i have collected and have
> noticed that emily usually faces the camera, with her eyes open while amy
> either has her eyes closed or is in profile.  the commercially released
> pictures i have seem to "hide" amy.  does anyone else see this?  or is my
> a-side showing through in this question?
>
> have a great summer - everyone!!  i'll be back in the fall.
> alycia
susan jackel <jackels@wizza.agvic.gov.au>

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subject:      re: grape nuts (nigc)
x-to:         "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
in-reply-to:  <01i50ou7s9mw8ybg44@wellesley.edu>

hey kirsten, you already used your sarcasm quota for the day on the url
guy!  :)  no fair picking on ms employees...it's too easy...

on wed, 22 may 1996, kirsten, grrl o' destiny wrote:

> jessica owens <a-jessio@microsoft.com> wrote:
> >i am with all of you grape nut lovers.  they are my favorite breakfast.
> >4 out of 6 of my co-workers pick on me endlessly for eating them.
> so maybe if you guys spent less time arguing about grape-nuts, then word 6
> for the mac would fit on fewer than 13 floppy disks?
> :)
> kirsten
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subject:      indigo dream

hey, y'all!

i meant to post this last week soon after i had the dream, but i
wrote it in my journal and forgot.  i also forgot to bring my journal
to the computer lab this evening, but i thought i'd better post this
before i forget again.

last week, as i mentioned earlier, i had an indigo dream.  probably
one of my first, since my dreams are usually *really* weird.  i was
at this place that my mind told me was the auditorium of my school,
but it didn't look like my school's auditorium.  funny how your mind
can do that to you.  anyway, ig were playing there.  just the two of
them up on this tiny stage (like i said, it wasn't really the
auditorium).  somehow, i got there late, and as i made my way down to
the front near the stage, they finished their last song.  i suppose
this symbolizes the fact that i didn't become a fan until the end of
their last tour.  so i'm standing at the edge of the stage, and emily
walks right past me on her way out.  my mind is numb because part of
it realizes this is a dream and would never in a million years
happen.  (ig on my campus?  administration wouldn't even consider it)
amy's just standing there on stage, doing something with her guitar.
everyone in the auditorium is moving towards the doors.  nervously, i
ask, "are y'all finished playing now?"  she replies that they are,
and then the cool part happens...she invites me up onto the stage to
talk.  i'm a theatre minor, so we get into discussing how crappy the
stage was designed (okay, so this could be the real auditorium) and
all the while i'm thinking, "wow.  i'm talking to _amy_."  i wanted
so much to be able to convey my respect and admiration for her, but i
just played it cool.  then, low and behold, emily comes from
backstage and joins us.  so it's the thee of us talking about music,
theatre, and other things i can't remember because, well, it was a
dream.  i think the dream then shifted to something else, or i woke
up.

for being one of my first ig dreams, i think this was a pretty cool
one.  has anyone else out there had a ig dream they would like to
share?

anna

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learn how to use my hands, not just my head
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subject:      ig stuff in oz

hi y'all

often when i read this list i go indigo with envy at the great gear
you us folks have access too.  boots, t shirts, gigs ahhhh it's too
much!!!!!!!!

if any australian listees come across any cool  ig stuff let the list
know.  please!!!!

and also any ani difranco, kristen hall, carol aiken, wendy bucklew,
michelle malone (real downundedr long shots)

keep on rockin
sue
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subject:      re: fugitive....

well said, tracy! i just want to add that pat's interpretation doesn't
contradict mine at all. all i did was look behind the obvious parts of the
song ("are they coming for us with cameras or guns...") and generalize it
to apply to the human condition. whether the song is *really* about the
human condition, i don't know, but it doesn't really matter! different
possible meanings can coexist peacefully, and probably even complement each
other.
kirsten
p.s. -- gwen, i had my sarcasm quota extended just for today. and besides,
it was a discussion about grape nuts!  *grape nuts*! =)

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subject:      (nigc) what is a grape nut?

the question was posed by january if anyone has a scientific
definition of a grape nut.  well, i'm not a scientist, but my
roommate has webster's ninth collegiate dictionary. :)  let's see
what it says:

grape  n. 1: a smooth-skinned jucy greenish white to deep red or
purple berry eaten dried or fresh as a fruit or fermented to produce
wine  2: any of numerous woody vines (genus vitis of the family
vitaceae, the grape family) that usually climb by tendrils, produce
clustered fruits that are grapes, and are nearly cosmopolitan in
cultivation

nut  n. 1a (1): a hard-shelled dry fruit or seed with a separable
rind or shell and interior kernel  (2): the kernel of a nut  b: a dry
indehiscent one-seeded fruit with a woody pericarp  2: a hard problem
or undertaking  3: a perforated block usually of metal that has an
internal screw thread and is used on a bolt or screw for tightening
or holding something  4: the ridge on a stringed instrument (as a
violin) over which strings pass on the upper end of the finger board
5 pl: nonsense - often used interjectionally  6 pl: testes - usually
considered vulgar  7 slang: a person's head  8a: a foolish, excentric
or crazy person b: enthusiast <movie ~>  9: the complete expense
involved

unfortunately, a though there were many word parings involving grape
and nut, there were none together, so take one definition of grape
and one of nut, put them together, and you have a grape nut.  do this
several times, and you'll have a bowl-full. you'll have to look up
milk yourself, unless you like grape nuts plain. :)

definitionally yours,
anna

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learn how to use my hands, not just my head
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date:         wed, 22 may 1996 20:41:35 -0800
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subject:      what's up?

is this the appropriate place to send mail:
* to amy & emily?
* concerning their web site?

many questions....
elizabeth

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subject:      happy birthday!!! (may 23, 1996)

happy birthday cathy and sue!!!

"...cause if you're ever believing i'm thinking of leaving look to the moon,
cause it's a fact she may go wandering about but she always come shining back
and it's true, i'll wait for you..."

"...eyes like yours should carry a smile, i haven't seen them sparkle in a
while, give it one more try, dry your eyes..."

birthday folks:
meylin@aol.com (cathy)
steinike@mace.cc.purdue.edu (sue)
*:);)*

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subject:      re: ani's new cd/attention aussies

dear aussie listees

have any of you seen any of ani's stuff *anywhere* in oz?

(mail me privately for the sake of bandwidth (hopefully)

sue

my life is part of the global life es

> i love rainy day, but if you're gonna call an 800 # to get ani's cds, call
> her label (righteous babe, which she established for self-distribution) at
> 1-800-on-her-own so that ani doesn't have to split her well-deserved
> profits with middlemen.
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subject:      re: grape nuts [via lsmtp - see www.lsoft.com]

when i was in the states a few years back i was *lucky* enough to
experience the 'grape-nut-feeling'.  me and my friend decided we felt
rather like budgiea having a daily dose of grit.  saying that though,
i kinda got to like them...but what exactly are they?  the best thing
about them was that they didn't go soggy in milk...theres nothing
worse than soggy cereal!
anyway, this is all ultra-nigc and it feels like i haven't posted a
single igc in an absolute age what with lurking amongst nojf stories
and figuring a cheap way to get to newport without having to swim
across the atlantic!  in fact my days have been very nigc...fieldwork
certainly buggers up your lifestyle.  last night i listened to 4.5
just to get a taste of ig once again.  does anyone else ever get
this, when they've been deprived of igc for so long that you just
don't know where to start when you actually have the chance of igc
once again...oh dearie-me!
am i rambling...i think so...
better go...
talk to y'all later...when i'm re-ig-habilitised!
love helene


"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
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at 01:44 pm 21/05/96 edt, lorinda wrote:

>actually, i have it from a very good source that when they aren't playing
>"with the band" they use what is called a "wireless unicycle." this works
>through infrared censors that are attatched to amy's legs. she powers the
>unicycle with all that kicking and stomping she does. incidentally, this is
>why (if you've ever noticed) amy's stomping is frequently nowhere _near_
>keeping time with the actual music. she's just frantically trying to keep the
>power up to that unicycle.

you'd think that with how famous they've gotten and everything, they
could afford to hire someone to do nothing but power the unicycle for
them (someone from iowa, perhaps? :) - but no, amy still is in there,
stomping for herself.  ah, that's why i love the indigo girls!

and emily wasn't attached to the censors when she pronounced joan baez's
son as "fuckin' beautiful"... *smirk*

>>oh, and in answer to the other questions - emily's mother is, of course,
>>a librarian at (wait for it) - a library.  and amy says "way to count"
because,
>
>i know you all want more details than this, so i'll add what i know. emily's
>mom is a librarian in a library in....georgia.

whoooaaaaah!  information overload! :)

>>ps - i'll see you all at newport!! :)
>
>not if we see you first! :)  (sorry, couldn't resist that one. :)

okay, i'll amend that.  "i'll see you all at newport, unless you see me first,
or unless we miss each other entirely in the crowd".

*grin*
-sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"and i will sail out over the ocean, and stare down into the sea,
feel the warm salty wind of salvation blowing through me...
and i been down for too long baby, and i been up all night.
i know it, i hear it - i think maybe, it's gonna be all right..."
                     - cheryl wheeler, "spring"

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subject:      not emily on "rockin'..." solo
x-cc:         wlee@indy1.calarts.edu

this question has come up a couple of times.

emily is not playing the solo on "rockin' in the free world".

i saw them play near d.c. with k's choice about two weeks before the cd
version was
recorded.

the k's choice guitarist played lead...emily played the tambourine!  amy
played acoustic guitar.

also, being a guitarist who plays alot of lead guitar, i can tell just by
listening that emily
is not playing that lead.  the style and technique is definitely not emily.

rob

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subject:      re: (nigc) what is a grape nut?

at 09:52 pm 5/22/96 edt, anna ( as a scientific definition, in answer to the
question posed by january ) wrote:
an articulate, and at times brilliant discussion of the words "grape" and
"nut", as defined by webster's ninth collegiate dictionary.
i applaud this effort, but feel that an entire area of expertise and
research in the field of science has been overlooked. this field is the
field of neurosciences.
working in this area, researchers at the university of british columbia have
made a startling discovery. the brain of an individual who consumes several
pounds of grapes in one day, is vastly differnt in comparrison to the brain
of one who, say, chooses to eat grapes maybe once a month. with the aid of
radioactive tracers, it has been noted that the former seems to have very
little emotional reaction to the mention of the more "normal" food/emotional
triggers such as chocolate, or pasta, while the brain of the average
individual virtually lights up with activity. however, when the same
afor-mentioned subject is exposed to the word "grape" there is an explosion
of activity in the ventromedial frontal cortex and amygdala. researchers
were stunned.
the ventromedial frontal cortex plays a crucial role in controlling impulses
and long-term planning, while the amygdala has been often described as "the
seat of emotion". so saying, then, the person with this over stimulated
reaction, both in impulse and emotion, has no control over their reaction
to, or passion for, grapes. they become psychopathic serial grapists... or,
"grape nuts".
so, in response to several of the posts over the past two days, let me add:
while these individuals are, indeed gritty, and do not lose this
texture/nature in milk, they definately are not a "healthy" choice. to
suggest they be included in a flavour of icecream that would be sanctioned
with the word "indigo" is quite simply ludicrous and bizarre. i'm sure
anyone reading this would agree. thankyou for allowing me to state my case.
yours sincerely, kim fischer.
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subject:      ig songbooks

just got back from a 5-day trip to atlanta. had a great time (always do)!
stopped in at rdr - they have a lot of the ig exports called "blood &
fire," "complicated girls," and the other one is "inside out" (i think),
i bought all 3 of them and they're at home, so i can't be sure of the
dates of the shows, but rdr can fill in any of my momentary blanks.
they also have the jcs video as well as the "indigo girls rd." sign.

on my posted content. i've seen three of the ig songbooks at a bookstore
in buckhead - they have several copies of so and nis and one copy of
sf, if anyone is interested, their name, phone number, url address is:

oxford books (main store at buckhead)
(404)262-3333
http://www.oxfordbooks.com

n.

p.s. hi julie! great meeting you!


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subject:      re: ig stuff in oz

in a message dated 96-05-22 22:33:14 edt, you write:

>if any australian listees come across any cool  ig stuff let the list
>know.  please!!!!
>
>and also any ani difranco, kristen hall, carol aiken, wendy bucklew,
>michelle malone (real downundedr long shots)

hi, i'm not an aussie, but i do a newsletter all about caroline aiken.  would
you like me to send you the next issue?  it will have information on how to
order a poster, t-shirt, cds and cassettes.  if you are interested send me
your name and snail mail.

also, watch for aiken merchandise to become available in the next few weeks
at her hidden water web site:   http://www.hidwater.com/aiken

i think i have some ca stickers around here somewhere...i'll send that along
too!  :)

rebecca

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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      re: (nigc) what is a grape nut?
in-reply-to:  your message of "thu, 23 may 1996 06:37:16 pdt."
              <199605231337.gaa16922@prcn.org>

ok, i can't keep quiet any longer.   i just happen to be in
posession of the *true* story behind grape nuts, which i have
thanks to my trusty uncle john's bathroom reader (no self-respecting
trivia "nut" should be without it ;))

since there are pages upon pages of fascinating info on this
particular topic in my book, i will paraphrase:

dr. john harvey kellogg ran a sanitarium where people could achieve
"purity of mind and spirit" by eating water, fruits & vegs, and some
bread made from graham flour.  incidentally, this sanitarium came
into being thanks to sister ellen harmon white who was instructed in
a vision by the lord. (this stuff isn't central to the grape nut story
but i thought ya'll might get a chuckle.)

anyways, eventually a rich real-estate salesman and blanket manufacturer
(i kid you not) named charles w. post ended up in kellogg's care and soon
became destitute for reason's still unclear.  to make himself fell better,
post repeated "i am well" to himself endlessly and then opened an inn
where he copied kellogg's healing ideas.  mrs. post sewed suspenders to
supplement their income.

a bunch of other stuff happened, including the miraculous invention of
corn flakes and postum cereal food coffee, and the tension mounted
between our wellness promoters.  eventually, post invented grape nuts
so he had something to sell in the summer when people weren't so into
cereal coffee.  he called it ... drum roll ... grape nuts!  he then
made all sorts of ludicrous claims (like that it cured tb, appendicitis,
loose teeth and malaria, among other things).

now i'm a bit embarrassed because i can't see where they say *why* it's
called grape nuts, but do not fear, for i have just recalled that this
information is in my straight dope (you can always count on cecil :)).

cecil says:  "... the product contained maltose, known at the time as
"grape sugar," and it did have a nutty flavor.  moreover, bearing in
mind that the name is properly spelled "grape-nuts" and not "grape nuts,"
one might argue that there are generic commodities known as grapes and
nuts, there was nothing called grape-nuts, in the sense that there were
cashew nuts, and thus the name could have no tendency to deceive..."

so there you have it, folks (those of you that are still reading at
least).  all you could ever conceivabley want to know about grape nuts.
and more.

in any case, as a fervent supporter of all things grape nutty, the
indigo swirls flavour has my full endorsement.

always glad to be of service :))

-sarah  (grape nuts rule!)

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subject:      the grapenut debate (nigc)

while sarah's information on the supposed inventor of grape nuts was an
interesting + informative read, i still say that when there is a link
between the words "sanitarium", "doctor" and "nuts", my researched topic on
the theory of serial grapists ( grape nuts ) holds true. :- )
peace... kim.
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subject:      re: the grapenut debate (nigc)

thanks, but i'll take my grapes in a bottle. ;)

jude

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subject:      hmm, this might catch on ( nigc )

at 11:10 am 5/23/96 edt, jude wrote:
>thanks, but i'll take my grapes in a bottle. ;)
now *that* would be a...uh... tasty swirl in any icecream...
peace, all... kim.
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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      re: (nigc) what is a grape nut?
in-reply-to:  your message of "thu, 23 may 1996 07:53:56 pdt."
              <199605231453.haa17482@prcn.org>

well kim, i cannot dispute your argument.  despite being a gn fan,
i am a bit nervous about these fine little turds after reading both
your message and the toilet-side history of the reigning cereal
kings.  i think you are definitely on to something with the doctor-
sanitarium-nuts link.  it should be noted that post shot himself in
the head after his attempt to *build his own city* in texas was
thwarted when he couldn't make rain by setting off explosions!?!?
i guess you could say that he was the original grapist ;)  one is
inclined to wonder just what goes into those grape nuts ... i have
no info on how the body was disposed of .....

keep smiling,

                 -sarah

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subject:      re: happy birthday!!! (may 23, 1996)
in-reply-to:  <960523021413_119332634@emout12.mail.aol.com>

for any of you jewel (kilcher) fans out there- today is her 22nd
birthday- she is playing tomorrow(friday) at the cotton club in atlanta-
check her out!! love, katie ><}}}">

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subject:      re: a point to ponder

i once found worms in my grapenuts. (and yes, i _was_ eating them at the
time.) and i've seen worms in gravel too...so, i guess there _is_ no
difference between grapenuts and gravel.


eeeeew,
lorindigo

driving...


lorinda wright           "i spent [10] years prostrate to the higher
lw01@lehigh.edu           mind, got my paper[s] and i was free. -e.s.
lehigh university         "and i drove out of there with no one behind
bethlehem, pa             me. i was feeling funny and free. -a.r.

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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subject:      reverse one for sale

thought you guys might like to see this post i found on the ig post music
message center...
========================================
subj:  reverse one for sale
date:  96-05-23 15:18:00 edt
from:  pwrof2

i'm moving and holding a auction for reverse one -
bidding starts at $175.00  (i paid $200.00)

i will take bids till 12md (central time) wednesday, june 5th

any questions or bids just e-mail
thanks

========================================================

you gus are always talking about this reverse thing so i thought you'd want
to know..
:)

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from:         "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
subject:      re: (nigc) what is a grape nut? / john harvey kellogg

earlier today, at 10:23:35 -0400, sarah andrews
<andrews@cs.concordia.ca> told us the story of john harvey kellogg and
grape nuts.

as some of you may know, his story was told in the recent t.
coraghessan boyle book and 1994 film, directed by alan parker, _the
road to wellville_ with anthony hopkins playing the role of kellogg.

when it first came out, my friend and former movie critic howard
thompson had little nice to say about kellogg's ... um ... focus on
certain bodily functions. not being one to pass up a good pun, i
pointed out that perhaps they should have called the film

_an enema of the people_

(with great apologies to henrik ibsen, who is rolling over in his grave
at warp factor 9.9 as we speak)

we return you now to our regularly scheduled mayhem.

rahadyan

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reply-to:     cardigan <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
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subject:      re: indigo swirls
x-to:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
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okay...i hate to be a party pooper...

but

if you want to put blueberries in ice cream you have to realize that it

1. won't be available year round (b&j already stops making their
blueberry yogurt in the winter)

2.if it's not available yearround, not as many people will carry it.

sorry for the restaurant business nagging...

i'll stop now...

amy

"you gave me nothing
but i've worked with less"
a.d.

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date:         thu, 23 may 1996 16:56:40 -0700
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subject:      (nigc) entertain me: mary mcdonnell

finals are over kidds...onto my first summer as a 21 year old.
ummm...after these two papers i must finish tonight.

        it is no secret that my favorite actress is mary mcdonnell.  so
in light of my new campaign to get mary's beauty in the limelight (last
campaign was to get emily's solo work recognized), people magazine has
published my letter lashing out at their ignorance. i hate their "50
beautiful people" list, but  i'd hate it a lot less if they put mary
there.  so go check it out if you can....the issue about prom dates or
something or other...entertain me...it's not so hard.

"it's important to have clean walls...i'll be climbing them soon..."
teri

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subject:      re: (nigc) entertain me: mary mcdonnell
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on thu, 23 may 1996, teresa c. esguerra wrote:

>         it is no secret that my favorite actress is mary mcdonnell.  so
> in light of my new campaign to get mary's beauty in the limelight (last
> campaign was to get emily's solo work recognized), people magazine has
> published my letter lashing out at their ignorance. i hate their "50


i saw this at lunch yesterday and it was quite a shock to realize i "knew"
the writer of this letter!  talk about the virtual community!

paulal

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date:         thu, 23 may 1996 21:07:20 -0400
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subject:      re: posts-grape nuts: catie curtis (nigc)

wow! what an educational day. my brain hurts.first i find, courtesy of
kim, that my alma mater is doing ground breaking research in
neurophysiology.
>so saying, then, the person with this over stimulated
>reaction, both in impulse and emotion, has no control over their reaction
>to, or passion for, grapes. they become psychopathic serial grapists... or,
>"grape nuts".
not to be confused with the cereal grapist, whose victims are found
floating in milk, eh?
then sarah,despite having provided a wealth of data to support grape nuts
claim to be included in the indigo swirl, was woman enough to have second
thoughts when confronted with this more recent scientific data. post
however was correct in his claim that grape-nuts cure loose teeth (as
amputation cures a loose limb).
so the jury is still out. blueberries are too seasonal, and grape nuts
pathologic.( disarm the grapists...remove their little nuts) what's left?
ice cream, watermelon and black-eyed peas? what's that wierd berry in the
pacific nw that isn't a berry at all, but 4 different fruits? mighty
tasty tho.
a little musical content. dirty linen#64(june/july 96) has a feature
article and pix of catie curtis. she will be in concert on the eastern
shore of md, june 2, in federalsburg at the colonel richardson hs
(410-479-0132)
gotta go ice my brain..

still crazy after all these years (p. simon)
when you're a cork in someone elses
stream of conciousness,
all you can do is
spin and bob in the eddies.( t. pratchett)

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date:         thu, 23 may 1996 22:53:37 -0500
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subject:      boot cd's and other stuff

hi,
i am interested in shades of indigo and some of the cd singles.
let me know...
donna

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 00:07:00 edt
reply-to:     "tracy weeks & several drooly (but loving) dogs"
              <clumber9@alliance.net>
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subject:      (nigc in a big way) psycho-sociological implications of serial
              grapism

whilst i had originally chosen to remain quasi-silent whence the issue of=
"grapular psychosomaticus" (lat. for grape nuts) appeared, kim and anna's=
dissertations spurred me to contribute.  being a jung thang,(in comparison=
to the former.. not the latter..) <ducking> i must add that no discussion=
of serial grapists can be entertained without consideration of the=
implications upon society as a whole (wheat). =20
        the fact remains that,as kim so diligently pointed out, these=
subjects do not lose their texture in milk...she knows this, she was far=
too humble to divulge, after a decade of study which she led, in which she=
and her assistants (slaves) poured several thousands of liters of 2% milk=
on random subjects - usually at bus-stops..    be sure to look up her=
discourse on the web at " http//www.milkheads@busstops.soggy/ "  one point=
not covered in her exhaustive and otherwise excellent investigation is that=
all serial grapists cause severe "gross mouth" reactions in their close=
relations as they are never *truly* able to completely remove the "remains"=
of their manic indulgences. weeks can pass before all trace grapist=
elements have worked their way from dentition.  and if the subject wears=
orthodonitc appliances...?  well, the effects here are too graphic for a=
public discourse such as this.   in short (as i can only do), these=
grapists need our sympathy and understanding... (and as many "water pik"s=
as we can provide....) they can not control their tendencies...  the=
updated version of the mmpi will most certainly contain startling new=
diagnoses and treatment stratagem. (no - i am using it the way i intended!)=
the key here is understanding and acceptance.  so go out in the world, my=
ig friends, and hug a grapist!!!  whatever you do, though, try not to=
accept any b-fast invites.... =20

trace <who thought she could do better than above, but disappointed herself=
again>
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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 00:26:50 -0400
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subject:      re: (nigc) what is a grape nut? / john harvey kellogg

in a message dated 96-05-23 18:22:53 edt, tisast@nytimes.com (rahadyan
timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo) writes:

>as some of you may know, his story was told in the recent t.
>coraghessan boyle book and 1994 film, directed by alan parker, _the
>road to wellville_ with anthony hopkins playing the role of kellogg.
>
>when it first came out, my friend and former movie critic howard
>thompson had little nice to say about kellogg's ... um ... focus on
>certain bodily functions. not being one to pass up a good pun, i
>pointed out that perhaps they should have called the film
>
>_an enema of the people_

a-ha!!!!  i knew all of this sounded familiar!!! that horrible movie!!!!!!!!
god save me from ever being stuck in a theatre having to watch matthew
broderick & lara flynn boyle onscreen again!!!!!!!

posted with fiber
      get it? ;p
r
i
  c
    k
a flame-free joe.

*when i say you sucked my brain out the english translation is i am in love
with you and it is no fun*
a.d.
(we've got ani!)

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 00:44:39 -0400
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subject:      re: reverse one for sale

i got my reverse 1 for 80.00 sealed... 200.00 is too much to pay!

-brooke

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from:         corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>
subject:      igc!  igc!

  yes, it's true!  i have ig content in this message!  and ngnc!  (no grape
nuts content!!!!)   yes i believe it is high time we stopped conversing
about our breakfast food preferences.  let's talk once again about the
girls.  here we go...  tonight i saw the jcs video and oh my lord it is
_fabulous_!  who knew that mary magdelene cavorted about in a kimono.  very
odd, i thought.  but the idea of jesus as a dark haired, overalled dyke was
strangely appealing.  is that sacriligious?

i love amy ray!!!!   ohh, a lot!


lookie, new address for corinne!
good night,

corinne

"what if there are no damsels in distress?"
    -ani

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 01:36:28 -0500
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from:         diana bernice sweeten <m_c_01f6@frank.mtsu.edu>
subject:      i'm new and saying hi!

howdy,
     my name is allison and i have been an ig fan since 1987.  living in
atlanta has afforded me the ability to see them quite a lot.  the only
thing i have never done is road trip to see an ig show.  i somehow missed
out on it all.
     i was at variety playhouse the night that jcs sebuted.  it was
great!  it had been so long since i had been able to see them some place
small.
     my best friend and i share this account.  so, when you se mail that
says "diana bernice sweeten", it's really from allison.  althought di
worships a and e as well.  i take full credit for that one.  i hope to
start being able to participate in some of the discussions.

thanks!
allison

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: indigo dream&london, on questions

i had an indigo dream last week...it was *so* wierd...not the dream
necessarily, but the fact that i could dream about 2 people that i've
never seen in real life.  i was in a coffee house and both a&e were
there having coffee and me and my friend *just happened to be sitting
next to them* and we got talking.  we were talking about how they
weren't playing europe-way this year and were having limited
appearances and we were saying how much of a bummer that was'n'all
and then amy asked me if i would go to the states if i had the
chance.  so of course, i said yes and then they both pulled out a
couple of tickets to their newport show and also said that they'd
arrange the flights over there.  they casually got up and said 'see
you in newport then!' and then left.

i woke up then because i was kind of confused...it felt real...you
know the feeling you get after you've met somebody so cool who you
really admire...its like_'oh my god!'_type thing and you feel in
limbo...well i woke up feeling like that...real in a surreal world!

anyways...just a question or 2...my dads going to canada next
week...he's flying to toronto and going to the london airshow (yep
he's a bit of a aircraft enthusiast!...but he loves ig, so i'll
forgive him!).  he said he'll bring me something back and i was
wondering whether there's anywhere up that way that would sell any ig
merchandise, t-shirts/posters/stickers etc...in fact anything ig...he
needs a bit of guidance you see.  also there are a lot of artists
mentioned on this list that i can never find in uk record stores (eg
ani difranco, caroline aiken, dar williams, michelle malone)...is it
likely that he'd be able to get any of their work in stores around
london...i'd really like to get something of any one of their
work...i haven't even sampled it yet!  so any info would be really
appreciated.

sorry to have gone on so long!
talk to y'all later
love helene


"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
44(0)1265 324010

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subject:      concert dates????????

i can't find tour dates for ig.  could someone please send me dates and
locations.  thank you.

debbie in auburn,al

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from:         "richard j. ing" </i=rj2/s=ing/@chs1rh.boat.bt.com>
subject:      free from the void

this is my first posting, and it's so nice to find some other ig fans at last.
most people in the uk ask "indigo who?".

i'm now starting to build up a collection of ig stuff, so does anyone have a
complete discography of ig releases, including boots and vids?

i'm also after a track listing for reverse 1 and club r&r presents, anyone?

i have no access to the web, only e-mail, so does anyone know how to get the
faq lists using e-mail (i don't want to ask any silly questions).

groovy times.......richard

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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      indigo swirls or no indigo swirls

bert, no offense, but let it rest.. last time i was on the net you were
trying to do this ice cream thing..  sorry, just had to add some sense to
it..

i received the above message a few days ago.  i would like to know if this is
the general sentiment of the group or just a lone wet blanket.  talk to y'all
soon.


there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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subject:      re: the grapenut debate (nigc)

ok, i just *can't* restrain myself any longer.....weren't grape nuts the
product that euell gibbons endorsed back in the 70's (showing my age) in that
commercial where he started out by saying...."did you know parts of pine
trees are edible..........?"

-connie :)

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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      an alternative to grape nuts and blueberries...
in-reply-to:  your message of "thu, 23 may 1996 21:07:20 edt."
              19595530704410@attach.net

since there is so much negative opinion on grape nuts and
blueberries, why don't we just get rid of both of them and
use blue corn chips instead!  that way, we get that blue colour,
a crunch that cures loose teeth ;) and, as an added bonus,
genuine sea salt in your ice cream.  yum yummmmm.  i can hardly
wait.  hee.

-sarah

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subject:      (fwd) nigc delivery error notification question

whenever i send a message to the list i get this message sent back to
me...anybody know what it means?  sorry to waste space...my messages
seem to get through to the list so i'm not really sure whats up.

hope theres not a problem:(
love helene

subject:       delivery error notification.
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to:            h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
date:          fri, 24 may 96 04:16:36 -0500
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you sent a message which could not be delivered.

the error message is:
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here are the first 20 lines of the original message you sent.
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subject: re: indigo dream&london, on questions

i had an indigo dream last week...it was *so* wierd...not the dream
necessarily, but the fact that i could dream about 2 people that i've
never seen in real life.  i was in a coffee house and both a&e were
there having coffee and me and my friend *just happened to be sitting
next to them* and we got talking.  we were talking about how they
weren't playing europe-way this year and were having limited
appearances and we were saying how much of a bummer that was'n'all
and then amy asked me if i would go to the states if i had the
chance.  so of course, i said yes and then they both pulled out a
couple of tickets to their newport show and also said that they'd
arrange the flights over there.  they casually got up and said 'see
you in newport then!' and then left.

i woke up then because i was kind of confused...it felt real...you
know the feeling you get after you've met somebody so cool who you
really admire...its like_'oh my god!'_type thing and you feel in


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subject:      happy birthday!! (may 24, 1996)q

happy birthday meg and val!!!

"here is the fame they promised to give you,
  taking the place of my hand now..."

"what does your conscience tell you? where are the demons of your desire?"

birthday folks:
vlawrenc@unipac.com (val)
bob dylan :)
megbaker@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (meg)
*:);)*

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subject:      it's fugitive week all week long

at 11:15 am 5/22/96 -0700, pat cheney wrote:
>well..shows what i know..i always assumed that this song was meant to go
>to a lover...
yuh huh... and it probably is... but that's the whole point of discussing
the lyrics of each ig song. we all get a chance to see the interpretation
that each individual
( who posts about it ) brings to the song. i've enjoyed reading the posts on
fugitive so far and hope that a couple more people will post their takes on
it. pat's interpretation made me take another look at the lyrics in a
"romantic" light, which was a neat experience for me... to study the
obvious. i tend to look for underlying + hidden meanings to things.:-)
(what'd i *mean* by that?)
anyone else got a unique slant? i'll bet if we work really hard we can even
find mention, in an insinuative way of course, of the great "grape nuts in
indigo swirl icecream" debate  ("but i got caught up in the whirl and twirl
of it all... " ).
well... peace all... i'm out of here for vancouver for the next two days...
look forward to reading yer thoughts on things ig when i get back :-)
kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      fugitive to me...

hi folks,

  since we are doing fugitive again and its one of my favorite songs i
thought i'd repost what i said about a month ago.  if you remember or
couldn't care less in the first place, hit 'd' now =)

                                -- chris

-----------

  i think fugitive has become my favorite amy song, moving out strange fire
(a very difficult thing to do).

  the whole song just grabs you.  imagine back to the day you bought
so and ran home to put it in your cd player.  you hear those rich, raw
chords sweep over you, and after the the chords crash amy picks up the
energy but in a underspoken way, "i'm harboring a fugitive..."
culminating in "hide yourself ...... for me.  all for me," with almost
no other instrumentation.

  then emily (here-to-fore known as "the one that goes 'moo'") joins
in and the tempo picks up "we swore to ourselves we'd go to the end of
the world/ but i got caught up in the whirl, twirl of it all."
all through the passion builds....leading into the chorus once again.

  the music again starts to build in intensity, then falls off ... the
wistful bridge begins:

        " i stood without clothes,
          danced in the sand,
          i was aching with freedom
          and kissing the damned....
          i said remember this is how it should be... "

and then an angry dose of reality (with building intensity):

        " aw... 'baby' i said, 'its all in our hands
          got to learn to respect what we don't understand.
          we are fortunate ones! fortunate ones! i sware!'

          hide yourself for me , i will hide myself for you.....

          all for you"

then back to the wistful thinking with a solo guitar, slowly and
comtemplitively.

its just perfect.  it was the perfect opener to the album, the perfect
lead in to least complicated, perfect use of tension, perfect way of
delivering a simple message -- heartfelt and passionate. *smile* i
don't usually gush over a song like this *blush*

for the longest time i never understood the line "got to learn to
respect what we don't understand."  i mean the words are clear but i
immediately flash to contexts of "-isms," which don't fit here.  then
i realized... what amy et al. don't understand is us -- the attention
they get for simply making music.  ok most of you are saying to
yourselves "duh!" and in retrospect so do i, but its amazing how blind
one can be when you don't want to see yourself in a negative light. =)

listening to the girls can be a poor man's therapy =)

                                take care all,

                                   chris

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subject:      re: (nigc in a big way) psycho-sociological implicatons of serial
              grapism

earlier today, at 00:07:00 edt, tracy weeks wrote:

>being a jung thang,(in comparison to the former..not the latter..) <ducking>

...which brings a song to mind <rahadyan takes out his virtual guitar,
on which he can virtually play only a very, very few virtual chords>

jung thang,
you make my heart, uh, sang,
you make everything ... groovy
jung thang,
i think i love you
<strums away>

rahadyan

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subject:      re: the grapenut debate (nigc)

on 24 may 96 at 9:30, cojehali@aol.com wrote:

> ok, i just *can't* restrain myself any longer.....weren't grape nuts the
> product that euell gibbons endorsed back in the 70's (showing my age) in that
> commercial where he started out by saying...."did you know parts of pine
> trees are edible..........?"

oh yeah! ole' euell gibbons. sitting out in a pine forest eating pine
cones, needles, bark, worms, grubs and grapenuts cerial! yumm.

connie, guess you ain't the only old folkie here!

peace y'all,
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where i know that i should be,
ohh, i was hoping i was just
a temporary absentee..       "
                    -gerard mchugh

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subject:      so beautiful

i was on the bus this morning, listening to swamp ophelia, and i was
just struck by how amazingly beautiful the sounds amy & emily make
together are.

maybe this sounds weird, maybe not. but i wasn't exactly listening to
the song. i was listening to the interplay of amy & emily's voices.
they way the compliment each other. the dynamics of the harmonies.
the texture of their voices. then the guitars. the guitars. amy's
straight ahead rhythmic approach. just digging in. emily's amazingly
beautiful playing. delicate, intricate. at times i can hear amy &
emily singing just one chord in a song.... just for a second....one
chord... and just be blown away by that one chord being sung. it's
just so wonderful.

sometimes i can just really be sent spiraling around, twirling,
spinning with joy by the richness of this music.

so, now it's 11:00am. i am sitting at my desk listening to
1200curfews (power of two). things are kinda crazy at work, but i am
sorrounded by this kind of warm coccon of serenity and beauty and
music.

have a great weekend y'all!

peace,

dan perkins

"well, it's not your job to be as confused as nigel, now is it?"
                                              - david st. hubbins

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>  why don't we just get rid of both of them and use blue corn chips
instead!

and salsa of course, because you can't have chips without dip.  and while
the thought of chips and salsa ice cream may not appeal to everyone, i
may have seen worse.  i was at a friend's house a couple weeks ago and
her daughter was eating a chocolate chip bagel with salsa cream cheese!
really, this is true.

i'm not sure chips and salsa really represents ig though...

my vote for the ice cream would be a container that is initially split
down the middle between two flavors, like us old-timers used to get with
the vanilla, strawberry, and chocolate.   one side would be for emily,
and would be more smooth and sweet,  and the other would be for  amy, and
would be edgier with something crunchy (other than grape-nuts).  they
could then be swirled together harmoniously.  :)


  harry a. keates
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subject:      ...hey jesus

hi,

does anyone have the chords of hey jesus?? please.....i want to learn it
on guitar - i sort of made up some chords but i don't know if they are
the right ones - it's very hard to get ig song books in ireland....

bernie
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subject:      you folks rock

i'm also pretty new to this thing, though i'm a huge indigo girls fan....

but i just gotta say that all of you people rock.  i have been
converting all my friends to ig-dom, but if the girls ever get within
500 miles of pittsburgh, i just gotta meet some of you people.

you're just crazy dedicated.

mike

ps:  fugitive is an incredible song, though my favorite from that album
would still have to be dead man's hill.  (my two cents :) )

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subject:      re: so beautiful
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on 24 may 96 at 11:09, dan perkins wrote:

> i was on the bus this morning, listening to swamp ophelia, and i was
> just struck by how amazingly beautiful the sounds amy & emily make
> together are.

i know *exactly* what you mean.  this may seem irrelevant to a lot of
you folks out there, but last year when my 'love' for ig really
'blossomed' it was their total connectivity and reaction that was
central to my admiration of them.  i have a special relationship with
my friend...i feel our love for each other is in another dimension to
this earth and the only way i've ever been able to describe it is to
say...its a&e's voices and music.  sometimes they can be so different
and sometimes so alike, yet no matter which, what comes from _them_
is truly beautiful, exciting and simply meant to be.

when i first began to really listen to ig it was great to feel part
of another dimension...may be not the same one, but one of immense
power...i will always draw strength from their music and its so fab
that there are so many different aspects to turn to.

i've finished for the day...and i'm on a ig-high...sometimes i feel
so lucky to know and appreciate their music.

talk to y'all later :)

love helene

> maybe this sounds weird, maybe not. but i wasn't exactly listening to
> the song. i was listening to the interplay of amy & emily's voices.
> they way the compliment each other. the dynamics of the harmonies.
> the texture of their voices. then the guitars. the guitars. amy's
> straight ahead rhythmic approach. just digging in. emily's amazingly
> beautiful playing. delicate, intricate. at times i can hear amy &
> emily singing just one chord in a song.... just for a second....one
> chord... and just be blown away by that one chord being sung. it's
> just so wonderful.


"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
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subject:      why some like ig and some don't?

on 24 may 96 at 17:31, helene burningham wrote:

<snip snip cut cut>

> when i first began to really listen to ig it was great to feel part
> of another dimension...may be not the same one, but one of immense
> power.

ahhh.... the power of two... i totally agree. there seems, at least
to me, to be an amazing power in ig music. for me it's a very
spiritual, positive power.

i am always puzzled by my friends who don't like indigo girls. i
don't understand how **my** friends could possibly not like indigo girls.

my friends and i were on the way back from jazz fest and we were
taking turns picking out cds to play. when i put on swamp ophelia i
could just feel their apathy for the music set in. i was just swept
up in the music, and wondering way they don't feel the beauty and
power of indigo girls...

so, here is my theory on why some people don't like indigo girls...
this may be way way way off base....but here goes... remember,
this is just my opinion. my opinion often times has little or no
relationship to reality.

personally i think the music of indigo girls tends to touch people
who are somewhat emotionally oriented, rather than intellectually
oriented. this is not to say, by any means, that those of us who love
the music of indigo girls are not intellectual, but that we are
perhaps more comfortable with our emotional selves and the manner in
which the world around us affects our emotional side. i think we are
a little more willing to explore and to allow the music to affect us
emotionally.

i think it also tends to touch  more deeply people who have had some
emotional and psychological turmoil or challenges in their lives. i
have just noticed that my friends who grew up in "normal" families
tend to not like indigo girls much. by " normal" i just mean families
where mom & dad stayed married, didn't drink or abuse drugs, didn't
abuse each other, the kids, the dogs. gave lots of love and support
to each other and the kids....well, now that i think about it this
might actually be the definition of an abnormal family, since i only
know 2 people who came from families like this... but i digress.

on the other hand the folks i know who like indigo girls (including myself),
grew up a little to the left of what dan quayle would call a "normal" family.
meaning that perhaps  we grew up in single parent homes. alcoholic homes.
abusive relationships. grew up gay/lesbian. grew up in a manner that
somehow set us apart from our peers and the norman rockwell ideal of
what the american family is supposed to look like.

does this make any sense whatsoever? or have i just pissed everyone
off?

i realize that this is probably does not reflect everyone's
experience. please don't flame me. but please do respond, especially
if you have other theories as to why not everyone is enlightened to
the music of ig.


peace y'all,
'
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dan perkins,
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where i know that i should be,
ohh, i was hoping i was just
a temporary absentee..       "
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subject:      *important* ksca cd

sorry to waste bandwidth but will the following people please contact
me at this email address as soon as they read this or call me at (310)
451-6625 or (310) 208-1877? my netware at work won't let me send to
a group of addresses which aren't on our network, hence another post
on the list:
attention:
harry keates
john kobza
carrie "indigopony" mowbray
kristina a.k.a. landrade@anna.az.com
julie a.k.a jncalif@aol.com
rachel macknight
susan marine
and anyone else who's already contacted me  me about
purchasing this cd. please, no new requests.
thanks y'all for being so understanding,
karen
.

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subject:      re: why some like ig and some don't?
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on fri, 24 may 1996 at 12:20  dan perkins wrote:

> i think it also tends to touch  more deeply people who have had some
> emotional and psychological turmoil or challenges in their lives. i
> have just noticed that my friends who grew up in "normal" families
> tend to not like indigo girls much. by " normal" i just mean families
> where mom & dad stayed married, didn't drink or abuse drugs, didn't
> abuse each other, the kids, the dogs. gave lots of love and support
> to each other and the kids....well, now that i think about it this
> might actually be the definition of an abnormal family, since i only
> know 2 people who came from families like this... but i digress.

hmm...you may be right about this because i will never know just how
much ig touches anyone else but me.  however, they touch me very
deeply, and i grew up in a home that almost fits your definition of
"normal," so home life may not be the only place where emotional and
psychological turmoil occurs.  i had a really bad social life almost
up untill i went away to college.  i had attended a total of six
different schools because my father's job required him to move
frequently, so that didn't help either.  i may not be able to
identify with *every* ig song, but as you posted earlier, just their
*voices* are moving enough.  anyway, i'm familiar enough with
loneliness, longing, unacceptance, and several other possible themes
of ig songs.

i can't not listen to them.  untill sometime in
september of 1994 i had never heard them, and now i cannot stop
hearing them.  as a christian, i try to find artists who write
spiritually uplifting songs, and yet at the same time i find myself
drawn back to ig like i have never been drawn to a secular
artist/group before.  some may argue that ig is very spiritual at
times, and i will agree, but there are other aspects of their songs
which i find disturbing on a spiritual plane.  but for the sake of
good music, i try to find a compromise in myself.

i think that another possible reason why some don't like ig is
musical taste.  kind of along the same lines as why i don't like
thrash metal music.  it just doesn't speak to some people the same
way.  my sister calls ig "eighties music" and refuses to listen to
them.  meanwhile i have to suffer through her jackson 5, green day,
and nine inch nails.  i had such hopes for her...

electronically yours,
anna

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don't take a picture
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talk to me face to face
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subject:      nigc: the flavor to end the debate

at 12:09 pm 5/24/96 -0400, harry keates wrote:

>i'm not sure chips and salsa really represents ig though...
>

but how about red beans and rice with strawberry swirled throughout? this
way both a & e are represented. no choosing sides here! you get an equal
taste of a & e   :)

drooling in anticipation,
bon


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subject:      re: it's fugitive week all week long
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hi,
     i always got the impression that the lyrics from "the fugitive" had
to deal with with being gay in this world.  i mean, "i will hide myself
from me" suggests to me the whole experience that i'veseen a lot of my
friends go through in coming out.  that's just one woman's opinion!

bye for now,
allison

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subject:      re: why some like ig and some don't?

>i can't not listen to them.  untill sometime in
>september of 1994 i had never heard them, and now i cannot stop
>hearing them.  as a christian, i try to find artists who write
>spiritually uplifting songs, and yet at the same time i find myself
>drawn back to ig like i have never been drawn to a secular
>artist/group before.  some may argue that ig is very spiritual at
>times, and i will agree, but there are other aspects of their songs
>which i find disturbing on a spiritual plane.
like what?
(in the interest of full disclosure, i belong to the church of making
things up as you go along -- but i assure you, i'm just curious about what,
in specific, you are referring to. no violence! =))
kirsten

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hi,
     i think that a & e simply put undescribable pain and feelings in
music and words that makes it all make some sort of crazy sense.  i nhave
noticed bits of ig song lyrics creeping into my vocabulary.  is that weird?!!

bye for now,
allison

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subject:      re: nigc: the flavor to end the debate

imnsho, this whole debate would be resolved if we all just became vegans.
;)
kirsten

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subject:      nigc: new df release =)

hi folks,

  i'm blessed to have gotten my hands on an advance copy of
"seed in the sahara,"  the new disappear fear release.  it seems
that some poor, misguided soul sent a copy off to a used cd store and
my roommate don picked it up for $7.99 (i'm so jealous =)).

  but i digress. *grin*   the album is great!

        1) laws of nature
        2) b.y.o.g. (bring your own god)
        3) today is better
        4) why
        5) seed in the sahara
        6) millions of rope
        7) skin
        8) laura
        9) michelangelo (paint the world)
        10) boxers
        11) love don't die

if you've heard sonja and the band lately, you've probably heard many
of these songs before.  i know she played them at the iron horse show
in april.  cindy's harmonies (yes, she's singing!) just add to the
richness and the color.

  the street release date is june 18, 1996 (according to the cd cover).
pick it up as soon as possible... its really good. =)

                                -- chris

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subject:      newport anyone?

hey y'all!
     i'm here at home on  my parents aol account, sadly unable to subscribe
to the beloved list...  i was just wondering about info. for newport.  what's
the official (or unofficial) lineup?  are tickets availible?  how?  where?
what?  augghhh!!!!
no, just kidding, but really, a couple of friends and i want to go somethin'
turrible, so any info is good info!  yey!  i miss you guys... if anyone would
like to send me a little of what's been going on, i'd appreciate it!
love, mandy
(lwarren531@aol.com)

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 14:50:41 -0400
reply-to:     amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
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from:         amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
subject:      re: ig chokers for sale

hi y'all,
  not too long ago my niece and i created some ig chokers out of fimo clay and
we would like to offer them to the list for a donation of $5.  this would cover
the cost of the choker and postage.  the chokers are round, about the size of a
quarter.  in the center are the letters "ig" in dark blue (or indigo if you
prefer) surrounded by glow in the dark white fimo.  surrounding that in
concentric circles are the colors of the rainbow, starting with red and
continuing with orange, yellow, green, blue/indigo, and purple on the outside
edge.  the choker itself is made of waxed cotton cord.  there is a limited
quantity of approximately 25-30.  if interested, please e-mail me privately.


peace,
amy (and emily - that's my niece and that really is her name!  :)

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 10:24:32 -0800
reply-to:     bonster@alaska.net
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from:         bonster@alaska.net
subject:      ksca cd

i apologize to those of you who i haven't contacted any sooner about
the ksca cd. unfortunately, my modem at home chose to
unceremoniously bite it, therefore i have been unable to send y'all the
proper info.

here's the general info: the cd is $16, i'd really love for you to either
email me today (between now, 10am pst and 5:30pm pst) if you are
definately going to purchase a copy of the cd.

several of you have already indicated you sent a check and boot, etc in
the mail, so don't trip...for those who explicitly stated they sent the
money, i've already purchased a cd. which..by the way, is awesome.
:) the girls are in pure/perfect form, and the other tracks are stellar as
well.

if you can't email me between those times,
please call (310) 451-6625 or (310) 208-1877, and we'll chat thru
details quickly. we just need to do this asap. my email address at home
will not be operational until sometime next week. (the guys at dell sure
take their sweet time!)

again, sorry for the inconvenience, but please try to contact me today
if you want the cd, and this weekend at the latest if you don't want to
miss your chance.


waiting to hear from y'all,
karen
ktongson@getty.edu

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 14:58:56 -0400
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from:         "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: why some like ig and some don't?

>hi,
>     i think that a & e simply put undescribable pain and feelings in
>music and words that makes it all make some sort of crazy sense.  i nhave
>noticed bits of ig song lyrics creeping into my vocabulary.  is that weird?!!
>
>bye for now,
>allison
well allison, it would make it easier for me to answer that question if i
knew whether or not you were only joking. after all, i've taken so many
down that just at the times when i thought i knew my mind like the back of
my hand, i'd find that i had lost something precious. this world falls on
me, but whenever i try to multiply life by the power of two, i get integer
overflow. i guess what i really gotta do is get out of bed, get a hammer
and a nail, and face that unforgiving the choice still is the language or
the kiss.
but if you think *you* know the answer then you've got a lot of gall, 'cos
it gives you satisfaction knowing nothing at all! =)
kirsten

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from:         sharon parker <sparke61@maine.maine.edu>
subject:      the flavor debate

while i found the beans and rice and strawberry idea funny(hee hee)
my friends and i saw that one coming...if you want a real suggestion,
all jokes aside, why not a chocolate fudge icecream with strawberries
in it? amy ray is a huge chocolate fan, we all know the reference to
strawberries and the two would taste great together...there could
be swirls of fudge or something for the "swirls" part of the name...
    being a huge b&j's fan and a huge ig fan makes this whole
idea all the better!
                      sharon

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subject:      tshirts?

hi all. i was playing with my web the other night (that sounds kind
of obscene!), i found a web site for this thing called magee's tees
or tee magee or something like that...and they were selling ig tshirts
for $16 (but my stupid server is too lame to be able to pull up the
graphic of what the shirt looked like).

just wondering if anyone has ordered from this joint before. i am
a little leery of sending $ to the fan club because of all the
horror stories of never hearing from them.....

bye for now-
sus

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
                                -emily saliers

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subject:      re: so beautiful
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on fri, 24 may 1996, dan perkins wrote:

>
> sometimes i can just really be sent spiraling around, twirling,
> spinning with joy by the richness of this music.
>

this was a fabulous post... i enjoyed reading it and it's just exactly
what i would like e & a to know.

sometimes i can be listening to a song i've heard a billion times and i
bust out cryin' due to the beauty of it all.

thanks dan.

paulal

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subject:      northland in the springtime - here's one for weird al

so i'm out jogging and i notice that all the leaves are out and
blossoms are blossoming, so i start singing southland.  problem
is, i've never even *been* to the southland and i suspect the
spring emily's talking about happens in march, not at the end
of may.  so i took it upon myself to write a canadian version.
i make no guarantees as to factual acuracy.


"northland in the springtime"

maybe we'll make yukon by the morning
light the tundra with our tailights in the night
800 miles to inuvik from the tree line
and we never have the money for the flight
i'm in the back seat sleepy from the travel
played our hearts out all night long in yellowknife
i'm blinded by the blizzard, keeping headlights dim
when the first breath of yukon fogs the glass

and there's something 'bout the northland in the springtime
where the waters won't be thawed 'till june at least
though i'm warmer when i'm gone it won't ever be too long
till i'm home again to spend by favorite season
when god made me born a texan *she* was teasin' :)
there's no place like home and none more freezin'
than the northland in the springtime

in alberta nights are shorter by the week
beneath twelve quilts we got on special at the bay
with the forest like a shag carpet, chopped down through generations
and bouchard & manning spreading lies across the land

there'll be barricades on the road near reservations
and poutine in a bag to burn your fingers
and the smoke from your player's light meets its maker in the sky
with the song that winter wrote whose melody rages


whatcha think?

hope i haven't offended anybody - it's just for fun :)

-sarah

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 16:28:00 edt
reply-to:     "tracy weeks & several drooly (but loving) dogs"
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subject:      hungry server
x-to:         sappho@apocalypse.org

hey all;
        if anyone sent me mail between approx midnight :01 5/24 (fri) and 2:00 pm friday, your message was eaten and is gone... please resend?  thanks,

tracy
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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 15:22:42 edt
reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@cc.emu.edu>
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organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      fare thee well my bright electrons

fellow ig-listers (or what's left at this point),

the time has come for me to say good bye until august.  y'all are a
community i am so proud to be a part of.  i will miss this, but hey,
it's only a few months.  i will live.

*sob*

if anyone cares or would like to, my snail mail address will be:
     anna creech
     122 seventh st.
     findlay, ohio  45840

hey, if you're ever in the northwest ohio area, stop by and say hi.
that rhymes.

:)

anna

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 16:43:42 -0400
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subject:      re: northland in the springtime - here's one for weird al

sarah, i *love* it!
are we starting a new genre here?
kirsten

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x-to:         multiple recipients of list humor <humor@caligari.dartmouth.edu>

most literature from computer-related products are drab
to say the least.  this is due largely to the historical
domination of the computer industry by nerds.  however,
due to high rate of growth in the industry some non-nerd,
and rightly cool people have invaded.  although i have never
met any of them rebecca has set this demonstration of their
presence.  there is little evidence that the bio-technology
industry has even one cool person remotely related to it.
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i once unpacked a scsi drive shipped from bubba's in louisiana, and it
arrived with this article in the packaging.  no kidding!


     important!  read this before using your new device

congratulations! you have purchased an extremely fine device that
would give you thousands of years of trouble-free service, except that
you undoubtedly will destroy it via some typical bonehead consumer
maneuver.  which is why we ask you to:

please for god's sake read this owner's manual carefully before you
unpack the device.  you already unpacked it, didn't you? you unpacked
it and plugged it in and turned it on and fiddled with the knobs, and
now your child, the same child who once shoved a polish sausage into
your videocassette recorder and set it on "fast forward", this child
also is fiddling with the knobs, right?  we might as well just break
these devices right at the factory before we ship them out, you know
that?!?

we're sorry.  we just get a little crazy sometimes because we're
always getting back "defective" merchandise where it turns out that
the consumer inadvertently bathed the device in acid for six days.
so, in writing these instructions, we naturally tend to assume that
your skull is filled with dead insects, but we mean nothing by it.
ok?  now let's talk about:


1. unpacking the device

the device is encased in foam to protect it from the shipping people,
who like nothing more than to jab spears into outgoing boxes.

please inspect the contents carefully for gashes or ida mae barker's
engagement ring, which she lost last week, and she thinks maybe it was
while she was packing devices.

ida mae really wants that ring back, because it is her only proof of
engagement, and her fiancee, stuart, is now seriously considering
backing out on the whole thing in as much as he had consumed most of a
bottle of jim beam in quality control when he decided to pop the
question.  it is not without irony that ida mae's last name is
"barker", if you get our drift.

warning: do not ever as long as you live throw away the box or any of
the pieces of styrofoam, even the little ones shaped like peanuts.

if you attempt to return the device to the store, and you are missing
one single peanut, the store personnel will laugh in the chilling
manner exhibited by joseph stalin just after he enslaved eastern
europe.

besides the device, the box should contain:

* eight little rectangular snippets of paper that say "warning"

* a little plastic packet containing four 5/17 inch pilfer grommets
and two club-ended 6/93 inch boxcar prawns.

you will need to supply: a matrix wrench and 60,000 feet of tram
cable.

if anything is damaged or missing: you immediately should turn to your
spouse and say "margaret, you know why this country can't make a car
that can get all the way through the drive-through at burger king
without a major transmission overhaul?  because nobody cares, that's
why."

warning: this is assuming your spouse's name is margaret. and not
pete.


2. plugging in the device

the plug on this device represents the latest thinking of the
electrical industry's plug mutation group, which, in a continuing
effort to prevent consumers from causing hazardous electrical current
to flow through their appliances, developed the three-pronged plug,
then the plug where one prong is bigger than the other.  your device
is equipped with the revolutionary new plug whose prongs consist of
six small religious figurines made of chocolate.

do not try to plug it in!

lay it gently on the floor near an outlet, but out of direct sunlight,
and clean it weekly with a damp handkerchief.

warning: when you are laying the plug on the floor, do not hold a
sharp object in your other hand and trip over the cord and poke your
eye out, as this could void the warranty.


3. operation of the device

warning: we manufacture only the attractive designer case. the actual
working central parts of the device are manufactured in japan. the
instructions were translated by mrs. shirley peltwater of accounts
receivable, who has never actually been to japan but does have most of
"shogun" on tape.

instructions: for results that can be the finest, we advising that:
never to hold these buttons two times!!  except the battery.  next
taking the (something) earth section may cause a large occurrence!
however.  if this is not a trouble, such rotation is a very
maintenance action, as a kindly (something) virepoint from drawing b.


4. warranty

be it hereby known that this device, together with but not excluding
all those certain parts thereunto, shall be warrantied against all
defects, failures and malfunctions as shall occur between now and
thursday afternoon shortly before 2, during which time the
manufacturer will, at no charge to the owner, send the device to our
service people, who will emerge from their caves and engage in rituals
designed to cleanse it of evil spirits.  this warranty does not cover
the attractive designer case.

warning: it may be a violation of some law that mrs. shirley peltwater
         has "shogun" on tape.
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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 19:05:52 -0400
reply-to:     "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
subject:      what a comrade in ig-fandom looks like

unfortunately i don't (yet) have a web page, but when i do, i'll no
doubt include this jpeg, from mardi gras '95 in n'awlins (i also went
to mg '96, but don't have the pix scanned nor the video edited):

http://www.fc.net/~lockheed/mardi4.jpg

hey, everyone! have a safe, fun weekend. take care of yourselves and
each other...

sampai jumpa,
rahadyan

ps i'm the one on the left. steve "lockheed" kirk, matt montgomery and
ben swofford are the other three cohorts in crime. gordon goldberg was
the cameraman.

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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 21:06:37 -0400
reply-to:     andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      ig covers & canadian winters

(for neily:  i'm sooooo sorry i sent this to you personally by
accident - when i do a reply on my mail system, it automatically
puts the poster on the to: line and i forgot to change it
*sheepish grin*)


for everyone else:

i was going over some mail i'd somehow missed while my brain was
visiting far off planets and i came across the discussion on ig
covers.  my sister has a cover of ctf by a band called sicko.
she describes it as "very alternative", personally, i think it
sounds like someone trying to strangle a cat and does a great
disservice to an incredible song.  she is not a true ig fan (alas,
i cannot convert her) and so her opinion should not be taken
seriously <g>  anyways, do not make any effort to obtain a copy
of this recording, unless, of course, you have masochistic
tendencies :)


on another note, i would like to add that canadian winters (and
springs) are not really as bad as northland suggested, at least
not where i am (although we did have snow on mother's day, but
that was a bit of an anomaly) - maybe in the arctic (i got
hypothermia there in august...).  ok, so i'm not making a very
good argument, but i can *definitely* assert that the waters
are thawed well before june.  it hardly even snows in southern bc
(right kim?, help me out here...) *and* we don't live in igloos ;)


-sarah

(i'm going out now to eat b&j cookie dough ice cream ... la la la :))


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date:         fri, 24 may 1996 23:41:05 mst
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from:         susan marine <smarine@cc.colorado.edu>
subject:      tape tree of kcsa cd

hi all. hope you're having a jolly friday evenin'. i am hereby
volunteering to set up a tape tree for everyone who didn't ask karen
in advance for the kcsa cd but would like a taped copy of it. if those
of you who are getting one (besides me) would email me, i'll set up
the tree and send out a message so folks can write in. i'll probably spli6t
up the list according to who likes grape nuts and who doesn't

just kidding :)

bye for now-please don't send requests for the tape til i mail again!

susan

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
                                -emily saliers

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reply-to:     georg petersen <georg.petersen@kiel.netsurf.de>
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organization: cls-netsurf site
subject:      re: why some like ig and some don't?
in-reply-to:  <199605241715.maa08698@access.texas.gov>

on fri, 24 may 1996 12:20:58 -0500, dan wrote:

>personally i think the music of indigo girls tends to touch people
>who are somewhat emotionally oriented, rather than intellectually
>oriented.

hmmm, i'm the very opposite of an emotionally oriented person, but i
learned to let beauty touch me..., it feels good !

georg

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 02:48:04 -0400
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subject:      re: indigo dream

in a message dated 96-05-22 21:38:48 edt, anna wrote:

>for being one of my first ig dreams, i think this was a pretty cool
>one.  has anyone else out there had a ig dream they would like to
>share?
>
>
hey!  i had a dream about amy on the 20th!!  this is what i wrote in my dream
journal:

i was in a town i don't know, in a house waiting for an ig show that night,
amy came by, we sat on the floor and talked, it was very relaxed.  i told her
about the impact their music had on my life.  i read to her from my journal
something which i had written about their music.  she was very genuine, happy
that we were talking.  she had to leave to get ready for the concert.  i was
very, very happy.  then i went to the concert, it was a small stadium and
hardly anyone was there.  only about 15 rows were filled so i moved up
closer.  i thought to myself that they might be disappointed that there
weren't many people there...

i also had another dream about an ig show on the 18th, here is part of it:

they played for a while them there was an intermission. amy was on stage but
didn't sing.  we saw a girl- lorinda (i've never met her :]) walked on stage
and gave them a flower.  then she was sitting near the stage, janet and i got
up and moved to where she was sitting.  i went to the bathroom, saw emily's
construction boots under the door and waited for her to come out.  when she
did i said hello and told her that i loved the shows in no...

strange!  after the amy dream, i woke up smiling :)

rachel:)

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 02:48:17 -0400
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subject:      happy birthday!!! (may 25, 1996)

happy birthday alycia, bill, and wendell!!!

"i'm going down that long lonesome road babe
where i'm bound i can't tell
but goodbye is too good a word babe
so i'll just say a fare thee well..."

"...i'm not making a joke you know me i take everything so seriously if we
wait for the time till all souls get it right then at least i know there'll
be no nuclear annihilation..."

"...how long till my soul gets it right..."

birthday folks:
anb038@nwu.edu (alycia)
wgal@cornell.edu (bill)
wlee@indyl.calarts.edu (wendell)
"don't think twice it's alright" (bob dylan)
"galileo"
*:);)*

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 04:57:49 -0700
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subject:      amy ray w/ ani! (5/24)

vancouver, british columbia, 5/24

ani difranco blew me away. she was so awesome live. what a performer! and
right before her last song she said: "we have a really special treat for
you... here is my friend amy ray! she's going to sing one of her songs..."

the audience roared!

amy walked out and did a killer job on "don't give that girl a gun" -- she
rocked hard on it.

ani sounded beautiful singing backing on the chorus. and of course sara
lee was there playing bass (instead of emily hehe) :) i thought it was
sweet that once the song was over amy practically ran off the stage. (i
got the impression she didnt want to steal any of the spotlight from ani,
so even though it was the last song she didnt stand there and bask in the
applause.)

if you have a chance to see ani on this tour, do it! she was incredible.
she was so damn funny! and the fact amy played was the perfect end to an
awesome concert. needless to say, if anyone hears about a boot of the show
let me know. thanks! :)

kristina

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 05:04:19 -0700
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subject:      ferron & vancouver folk festival

ok at the ani concert they handed out info about the 19th vancouver folk
festival which will happen this june. it says ferron! and jane siberry
will be playing evening concerts (not together heh). those are the only
two performers i recognized but they described each of the acts and a lot
of the bands sound like they'd be really cool to check out. anyway if you
want more info email me and i will send out detailed information. this is
for vancouver, british columbia, oh canada! what a cool city, every time i
go there i am amazed at how beautiful it is.

at any rate i am going to see ferron so let me know if you want to hook
up. :) you can stay at my place in bellingham, just over the border, if
you're interested in attending. i know we have a couple list members in
b.c., will you guys be going? it sounds like it would be a great time w/
some killer music.

kristina

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 10:50:25 -0400
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subject:      re: it's fugitive week all week long
x-to:         rcn@prcn.org

in a message dated 96-05-24 10:58:36 edt, rcn@prcn.org (kim fischer) writes:

>
>at 11:15 am 5/22/96 -0700, pat cheney wrote:
>>well..shows what i know..i always assumed that this song was meant to go
>>to a lover...
>yuh huh... and it probably is... but that's the whole point of discussing
>the lyrics of each ig song. we all get a chance to see the interpretation
>that each individual
>( who posts about it ) brings to the song. i've enjoyed reading the posts on
>fugitive so far and hope that a couple more people will post their takes on
>it. pat's interpretation made me take another look at the lyrics in a
>"romantic" light, which was a neat experience for me... to study the
>obvious. i tend to look for underlying + hidden meanings to things.:-)
>(what'd i *mean* by that?)
>anyone else got a unique slant? i'll bet if we work really hard we can even
>find mention, in an insinuative way of course, of the great "grape nuts in
>indigo swirl icecream" debate  ("but i got caught up in the whirl and twirl
>of it all... " ).
>well... peace all... i'm out of here for vancouver for the next two days...
>look forward to reading yer thoughts on things ig when i get back :-)
>kim

i used to think that fugutive was about a lover also, but i've since decided
that it's actually about amy trying to preserve a part of her inner self, one
that she's afraid will be buried and lost forever because of her fame and the
resulting lack of privacy.
"i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a kind, she lives in my soul, drinks
of my wine, and i'd give my last breathe, to keep us alive" demonstates that
.
"are they coming for us with cameras or guns, we don't know which but we
gotta run and you say this is not what i bargained for"  is actually amy
talking about her problems dealing with all the attention and notoriety that
comes with being perceived as a spokesperson for certain causes, wheter she
meant to be or not.
"we swore to ourselves we go to the ends of the world but i got caught up in
the whirl and the twirl of it all, the day and the sun dancing alone, baby
i'm so sorry" could mean that for a while she really enjoyed all the
attention, but has since come to realize that fame is a double edged sword.
"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with freedom,
kissing the damned i said remember this is how it should be." she's finally
come to grips with the fact that public and private personas don't have to be
the same, and a part of her should remain private from all of us who like to
analyze and dissect everything she says and does (remember the lister who met
her and thought she was rude?)

of course this is just my take on it... i could be dead wrong, but that's
what makes these discussions so cool!

angie in kc

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 11:32:06 -0400
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subject:      nigc-duplicate messages

is anyone out there receiving multiple copies of most of the messages on
this list?  i'm on the bounce format and it's really annoying!!!  any help
would be great.

lisa

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subject:      im back!!

hey y'all!! i think i finally have all my computer problems fixed, so im
back on the list! i've missed you all... what have i missed?? have you all
decided on a t-shirt design or designs? give me all the juicy details!! :o)
tiff

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 15:54:56 -0400
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subject:      re: fugitive and why some like the igs

thought i'd put in my $.02 to prove i do listen to their music:-) when i
first heard fugitive i thought it was addressed to a lover, and spoke of
the disruptions that celebrity and loss of privacy  brings with it. now i
think as others do, it is also a plea to the inner self to be true and
uncontaminated by the necessity of having a public persona, in order to
reap the rewards, hopefully not at the price of loss of identity/lover.
the neat thing is how their songs can be interpreted so many different
ways.
i have a theory on why some people love their music and others are
untouched by it, for what it is worth. back in the dim reaches of my
brain i remember being exposed to the concept of "the marginal
man/woman".this individual perceives themselves to be separate from the
mass of humanity because of real or imagined differences- the ones on the
fringes, the edge, the *outsider*. this awareness can arise from
something as simple and transient as the adolescent sense of
awkwardness/ugliness or the more complex/immutable color, gender,sexual
identity or even religion. this awareness of being different is a painful
experience but it can be a *transforming* one. a mote at the edge of the
ocean, being thrashed against the rocks is exposed to the reality of sun,
sky and wind ("if joy then pain"),and this is a more  illuminating and
fuller experience than those motes floating in the deep, dark depths,
unquestioning, secure in their tradition and shared experiences. ( "just
stick the right formula in, a solution for every fool"). this turmoil can
lead to questioning, defiance of the "rules", that no longer seem to
apply, and with luck empathy ("we've got to learn to respect what we
don't understand"). once launched on this journey of exploration of the
boundary zone, new *truths* and beauty can emerge if the individual has
the courage and imagination to look both inward and outward. this is the
zone of creativity and insight and great art, music and scientific
discoveries can result, or the individual can founder and drown in
despair, overcome by their separateness. the igs music speaks to those in
the *zone* for whatever reasons and we appreciate it and love it because
it reminds us we are not really alone, only fellow travelers on the
journey. their special gift is to be able to give voice to their and our
souls yearnings and to say it and sing it so beautifully. those who don't
appreciate it, well i'll let you draw your own conclusions.
so there:-) for what it is worth-a theory
defying the law of conservation of bandwidth
marilyn

still crazy after all these years (p. simon)
when you're a cork in someone elses
stream of conciousness,
all you can do is
spin and bob in the eddies.( t. pratchett)

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 17:02:14 mst
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subject:      heyyyyyyy karrie bowen! where you at (nigc)

hi everyone...if karrie is there, karrie honny-bon-bon please
email me! if she is gone for the summer, and if someone knows how i
can reach her, please let me know! thanks a billion, kids

susan

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
                                -emily saliers

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date:         sat, 25 may 1996 19:28:10 -0700
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subject:      rainy day records
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does anyone know rainy day records' phone number with area code?  i need
it bad.

wendell

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subject:      re: amy ray w/ ani! (5/24)

at 04:57 am 5/25/96 -0700, kristina wrote:
>vancouver, british columbia, 5/24
>
>ani difranco blew me away. she was so awesome live. what a performer! and
>right before her last song she said: "we have a really special treat for
>you... here is my friend amy ray! she's going to sing one of her songs..."
>
>the audience roared!
somebody give *this* girl a gun! i could shoot myself. i was *in* vancouver
bc yesterday (5/24) ( came home to isolated "no-one of much significance(
except kd lang ever plays here" powell river this evening ) why the *hay*
didn't i know about this stuff???? am i wearing cyber blinders... am i
stoooopid!!!????? i could have been there!!!!!..... < kim crawls into a
corner where she quietly rocks while sucking her thumb>
peace all... a despondant kim.
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subject:      re: ferron & vancouver folk festival

at 05:04 am 5/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>ok at the ani concert they handed out info about the 19th vancouver folk
>festival which will happen this june. it says ferron! and jane siberry
>will be playing evening concerts (not together heh).
>i know we have a couple list members in
>b.c., will you guys be going? it sounds like it would be a great time w/
>some killer music.
oh... definately *this* list member will be attending. i've listened to
ferron since way on back in 83 but havn't seen her in concert for years.
that'd probably be the one i aim for :- ) ... after what *i* just missed
<kim still quietly sobbing> i'll make every effort.... it'd be fun to meet
up with other ig-listees... let's arrange it????
yours sincerely... :- ) kim.
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subject:      atlanta pride weekend...

i just heard that sunday, june 30, ig will be headlining at piedmont
park at atlanta as part of gay and lesbian pride weekend.

hope to hear reports from those of you who make it there.

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subject:      re: so beautiful
x-to:         d.perkin@access.texas.gov

d.perkin@access.texas.gov,inet writes:
sometimes i can just really be sent spiraling around, twirling,
spinning with joy by the richness of this music.

thank you, dan, for this beautiful post. i, too, have many moments like that
-- usually in my car, which is my "cocoon" ... i am just blown away by how
special their combination is.

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subject:      red light tape tree stuff

hi all. i know i have been a posting fool lately and i promise to
shut up soon! i am getting ready to leave co. so if you are a person
who's birthday is july 24-aug. 15 and you wanted a boot of the red light
cafe' tape, send it tuesday. no later thsan tuesday, please. i am
leaving on june 6. i have absolutely zero faith in getting all my mail
forwarded...my office is just that way.

i'll post to the list when i get to nh and then you can send the
tapes there in july, but until then...act now or please hold off.

thanks a lot!

crazy with packing,
susan

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from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
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subject:      fans who play with ig

okay, this happened last summer, so you probably already talked about it,
but i'm somewhat new to the group.

in portland at the honor the earth tour, amy invited a fan up on stage to
play a song with them.  the woman was apparently in the fromt row playing
an "imaginary" guitar along with the ig.  sooo, amy says "do you know
this song?" . . . "do you really _know_ this song?"  then she invites her
to come up and play with them!!  while she was waiting for the girl to
get up on stage, amy said that they had never done this before.  well the
girl was great!!!  and not at all stage shy!  they even gave her a solo,
which the sound guy messed up because he had her amp turned down to half
the volumn of a&e's.  well i realized that so many people would pee their
pants to get a chance to do that.  so i was wondering if anyone's heard
of this happening at any other ig shows? (not like i'm planning to try to
get invited on stage with them or anything <sheepins grin>)

later,
reggi

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subject:      new orleans

hi everyone!!

i have been off the list for a little while and i wondered if anyone could
post a set list and/or review of the new orleans show at the beginning of
may.  thanks a lot!!!

--rob

"if the world is night, shine my life like a light."

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subject:      re: ig covers & canadian winters

at 09:06 pm 5/24/96 -0400, sarah wrote:

>on another note, i would like to add that canadian winters (and
>springs) are not really as bad as northland suggested, at least
>not where i am (although we did have snow on mother's day, but
>that was a bit of an anomaly) - maybe in the arctic (i got
>hypothermia there in august...).  ok, so i'm not making a very
>good argument, but i can *definitely* assert that the waters
>are thawed well before june.  it hardly even snows in southern bc
>(right kim?, help me out here...) *and* we don't live in igloos ;)

oh, absolutely ( franny ) sarah.... no snow here this spring... in fact,
hardly a trace of the stuff all winter. sure beats the farther north, more
northland-like winters of the northwest territories, where i put in three
very long, dark + bitterly cold ( -40 degrees celsius not including wind
chill factor ) winters. course... even there no-one lived in igloos :- ),
and the waters were thawed, for the most part, before june... (you wanna see
something beautiful, though, and hang the cold... spring breakup on the
slave river is incredible... awe inspiring etc etc etc...huge chunks of ice
heaving and twisting, clawing up the shore as it holds on for... oh, s'cuse
me fer getting dramatic) :- )
to me, this place i'm at on the west coast of bc... more south than north in
comparison to the rest o' canada... is my "southland in the springtime"....
it's beautiful here... i was born here + grew up ( hah! ) here... so i guess
it's in my blood... but i can never get enough of just standing + soaking it
in on a warm spring day like yesterday.... the dark green mountains ( some
tipped by snow ), deep blue ocean water, and the scent of salt water on the
breeze coming in from off shore... mmmm.... cold north?... nuh uh!!! paradise.
peace... kim.
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subject:      re: reverse one for sale

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>from:  pwrof2@aol.com
>
>i'm moving and holding a auction for reverse one -
>bidding starts at $175.00  (i paid $200.00)

just because this person was foolish doesn't mean you should be. $200?
<laugh>

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subject:      re: amy ray w/ ani! (5/24)

x-shameless cd-plug: cindy lee berryhill, straight outta marysville
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"l. andrade" <andrade@az.com> wrote:

>ani difranco blew me away. she was so awesome live. what a performer! and
>right before her last song she said: "we have a really special treat for
>you... here is my friend amy ray! she's going to sing one of her songs..."

i am *so* jealous!

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subject:      re: so beautiful

x-shameless cd-plug: cindy lee berryhill, straight outta marysville
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dan perkins <d.perkin@access.texas.gov> wrote:

>i was on the bus this morning, listening to swamp ophelia, and i was
>just struck by how amazingly beautiful the sounds amy & emily make
>together are.
>
>maybe this sounds weird, maybe not. but i wasn't exactly listening to
>the song. i was listening to the interplay of amy & emily's voices.
>they way the compliment each other. the dynamics of the harmonies.
>the texture of their voices. then the guitars.

not weird at all. these are the things that strike me whenever i really
listen to the ig cds.

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date:         sun, 26 may 1996 04:28:59 -0700
reply-to:     krae <krae@atlcom.net>
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from:         krae <krae@atlcom.net>
subject:      (sac)band de soleil last night

hey everyone,

     thought i'd post some info on band de soleil. they played at the
point in atlanta...

     what can i say... they blew the roof off!! michelle was bad ass. she
played a (hmm), it was black and looked like an sg but i don't think it
was a gibson. (the place was packed and i really couldn't see much below
their heads). she also played a fender strat. she played harmonica on a
few songs. they did some new stuff. she said they were from the new album
comming out in august. towards the end of the show, m invited kevin
lawson up to sing. not sure who he is... then invited up members from
chump who backed them. actually she invited everyone on stage. she said
that if anyone wants to sing or play to come up. heh... i was thinkin'
ok... i'm gonna go up there and jam with michelle. i had to sit on my
hands :) it ended with about 8 or 9 people on stage.

     as i was checking out michelle, i kept thinking about the posts on
a song by a. the one about annorexia (sp.?). well, i couldn't help but
think that this song could have been written about m. she looked very,
very thin and somewhat pale. but, she had a lot of energy. anyway, did
anyone ever find out who it's about?


      thanks for readin'....

                                                            kim

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date:         sun, 26 may 1996 17:15:59 -0700
reply-to:     pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
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from:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
subject:      a question

so..amys off with ani , and shes doin shows at eddies and she writin
articles for the advocate....what emily doin? anyone know???

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date:         sun, 26 may 1996 21:35:36 -0500
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subject:      nields interview questions anyone? :) (nigc)

hey again y'all :)

it's me, the budding barbara walters of college station texas......well,
now it seems that a few days after the ani interview i'll be interviewing
the nields, so here i am again to ask you wonderfully knowledgable folks
again for questions, advice, whathaveyou that you think might be good to
ask this really great band (who i've never seen live but hopf hopefully
will get o too soon....) i promise this will be the last time i take up
the bandwidth with this sort of thing, but i got such great c suggestions
for ani questions that i couldn't help but try again for the niedls, who
i actually know less about than ani.....once again, any advice would be
greatly greatly appreciated, help too......just think, when i'm on the air
in 30 years making grown people cry you can say "hey!  i gae gave her
quesio questions for her very first interview....tee hee.....tee hee..."

cylinda "baba wawa" parga
(thank you diabolito mono!)

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date:         mon, 27 may 1996 07:50:29 -0400
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from:         randy rohrer <rohrer@seas.gwu.edu>
subject:      re: rainy day records
x-to:         wlee@indy1.calarts.edu

wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu> pleeds:
>does anyone know rainy day records' phone number with area code?


       rainy day records
       toco hills promenade
       3005 n. druid hills rd.
       atlanta, ga 30029
       1-800-636-6166
       (404) 636-6166


- randy

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date:         mon, 27 may 1996 11:42:30 -0400
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subject:      song of the week (5/26-6/2) least complicated

this was the first song that caught my attention on so, probably because it
is a very "user friendly" song. by this i mean it's  got a happy kind of beat
to it, and doesn't come across as somthing you need to struggle to
understand. many of the other songs were the kind that take a few listens to
really explore their meanings, and to appreciate them.  but i love the part
in lc where the drums kick in before amy starts to sing. i air drum to them
all the time (my 13 year old son always laughs at me when i do this).
   anyway, emily explained the background to this song on 1200 c.  what other
takes on this are floating around out there?


angie in kc

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date:         mon, 27 may 1996 13:17:32 -0400
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subject:      song critique

hey y'all, i just recently finished writing my first song(that had any
meaning behind it, atleast) and i'd appreciate it if you could give me some
feedback as to what you think about it.  thanx.


i saw you in the limelight
the place that you were meant to be
so close to all the people
yet so far away from me

i always longed to know you
to feel your warm and gentle touch
but there were always others
and i never mattered much

now the friendship that we have
two twin peas in a pod
yet it seems there's no real love
now tell me dont you think its odd

how one could love the other
with no love given back
its like a railroad train that tries to run
without its wheels on the track

(guitar solo)

cupid's struck his arrow
through my heart now cant you see
if we could love the other
then we'll both be set free

the love that binds two humans
the love thats hurting me
but if you give me a chance- just one last dance
you'll see... we were meant to be
----

thats the song. comments?? any critiquing is appreciated. thanx again,
tiff

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subject:      nigc-attn:  jon miner

jon,
please send me your e-mail address.
i need some information about t-shirts.
thanks,
rena

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subject:      my secret affair with josh brolin!

okay, now back to reality.
least complicated!!!!!!

this is one of the first ig songs i'd ever heard. i love love love it- it's
just so wonderful!!!

there's one line in particular that strikes me as something that rings true
in my life- "the next time i fall i'm gonna have to recall that it isn't
love, it's only something new"...something that's been pretty hard to learn
even though it's not that complicated, is it??

i love the music- the way the instruments weave together to form the song- i
love the harmonies... i love the part when emily sings the chorus & amy sings
each line shortly after her, like a round...

:) it's one of my favorites! :)

rick
(who's really bad at this song of the week thing and thinks he ought to just
go to work now)

*please god, don't make me fall in love & want to do disgusting things...
                 ...dear god i love the way he throws....*
                       -winona ryder as charlotte flax in "mermaids".

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date:         mon, 27 may 1996 17:23:08 edt
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subject:      nigc!!:mf chords

i don't know who asked for these, but i mysplaced the address....

sorry to clutter up the list w/ this mess...

ok, here it is:

til you're dead: capo on 5th..
intro:  f c em am  (four times)
verse: cgcg  cgcg  cgcg  cgcg  cfgg
chorus: fcemam fcemam fcemam fcemam
                   "            "                "            "
verse 2: same as above...
chorus 2: same as above...
bridge:dddd emememem dddd emememem
chorus....end on am...

cracker jack kid:capo on 2...      h:hammer on...p:pull off
  "d lick"   (h)         (h)(p)              "bm7 lick"
|-0--------0---2--------0-2-0-------|--2-----2----2---|-----(h)----(h)----
|-3--------3---------3---------------|---3-----3----3---|--0---2--2--3----
|-2---2----2---------------------0---|---0-----0----0--|---0-(h)----------
|-0-----------------------------------|----------0----0--|--0---2-----------
|--------------------------------------|---2-----2----2--|--0---------------
|-0-----------------------------------|-------------------|--------------------

----------------------------------------------------------|--0--------(h)--
----------------------------------------------------------|--2-------2--3--
----------------------------------------------------------|--0----0---------
----------------------------------------------------------|--2--------------
----------------------------------------------------------|--0--------------
----------------------------------------------------------|-----------------
      "c9 phrase"
|------------------------------------(s)--------------------------------------(s)
-----------------------
|--3--3--3--3----3----3--3--3---3--5--3--3--3--3----3----3--3--3----3--5---3--3--
3--3----------
|--0--0--0--0----0----0--0--0----------0--0--0--0----0----0--0--0------------0--0
--0--0------
|--0--0--0--0----0----0--0--0----------0--0--0--0----0----0--0--0------------0--0
--0--0-------
|--3--3--3--3----3----3--3--3----------2--2--2--2----2----2--2--2------------1--1
--1--1-----
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------

-------------------(s)-------(s)---------------(h)(p)(p)-||----------------------
-------------------
-3---3--3--3----3--5---5-----10--10-8-7--7-8-7-0---||----------------------------
--------------------
-0---0--0--0---------------------------------------------||----------------------
-----
-0---0--0--0---------------------------------------------||----------------------
---
-1---1--1--1------------0-------------------------------||-----------------------
---------
-----------------------------------------------------------||-------------------

verse:||  dlick  bm7 lick  a7  d  bm7  a7  d  bm7  a7  d  d  g  a7  d  b7  a7
c9  c9  a7  intro  || d bm7  a  d bm7 a7 d bm7 a7 d  bm7 a7 c9  | d (on 'i me
mine'| c9 a (#) | d a7 d c9|
'#' lick:
------------|
------------|
------------|
------0--2-|
---4-------|
------------|

sorry if any part of this doesn't make sense...(it made sense when i wrote it
down for myself!!)
if you have any questions...email me, ill try my best to explain my way of
writing music...
in any place in'cracker jack kid', that i write  a cord, it will be the 'lick'
that goes along w/ it
wait, im not making sense...
if i say bm7, you should play that 'bm7 lick', and not the chord.... (did that
make sense?)
any way,
enjoy!!
-moe

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