lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-06b

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 00:34:51 -0400
reply-to:     rbsayre@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         richard sayre iii <rbsayre@aol.com>
subject:      re: zoinks scooby- that looks like amy/emily!!!!!
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com

in a message dated 96-06-06 13:38:50 edt, mmedido@aol.com writes:

>so what are you saying rick ??????
>that at 52 (or 3), one is considered an "old lady" ?????????????
>
>

um... older... yeah. that's what i meant!

jeepers!!
:)
sleepyrick

*it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...*

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 00:52:10 -0400
reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
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from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      augh! (aka i hate computers!!!) (nigc)

hola, list!
      okay, maybe if you're getting this the problem is solved, but there are
3 different messages that i have tried to send 3 different times and it
doesn't seem like they're getting to the list... am i just not getting them
back as i usually do, or am i doing something terribly wrong?  ignore this if
they get there first or also, but this is driving me bonkers!  anyone have
any ideas?  yo necesita ayuda! =}  peace, love, and modems, sarah

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 01:41:11 edt
reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      must mean something...

hello all from an hour which is so late that we may perceive it as only
getting earlier--i should probably be asleep but when i have to write, i
write, so here goes.

i am new to the list this week and have really enjoyed "listening in".  i
have been a fan of ig for about four years now and i continue to be inspired,
uplifed, and yes, even comforted by their wonderful songs.  in particular,
i see so much of myself in the words and music of ar; so much, in fact, that
i sometimes wonder if i am a long-lost relative of hers or something...just
kidding!  :)

anyway, a little about me:  i am a junior (almost senior) premedical student
at east carolina university in greenville, nc, studying physics and molecular
biology, and i aspire to someday become a radiologist.  my main hobby (besides
my ig cd's) is creative poetry which i don't always think about but somehow
ends up making sense, and i play guitar a little bit (but i'm working to
improve that...).  just for fun, this really makes me wonder after reading
"mood indigo" which was posted yesterday (hope all y'all have had a chance to
read it, or i may not be making total sense...) if in some way i wasn't somehow
removed from amy and her family...the similarities must mean something!!! :)
anyhow, it's a point i ponder.

but we're all part of the ig family, as we all can relate in one way or
another to the songs a & e so brilliantly sing.

alpha epsilon delta forever,
mary

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 07:00:40 -0400
reply-to:     mjg333@aol.com
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from:         mjg333@aol.com
subject:      re: ig shirts
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ok, listen up people...
anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of seeing the shirt designed and put
together by deb & rob, needs to run don't walk to the www sight...the t-shirt
is incredible.....really.

http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

you won't be disappointed, i promise you :)

mjg

hi all!

thanks to all who have sent posts about the "q" question.
you guys & gals are great!!! take care,

-dana

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 09:17:59 -0400
reply-to:     ncrobino@aol.com
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from:         ncrobino@aol.com
subject:      (repost)'96 list shirts!!! order now!!! see design! read me!

in a message dated 96-06-06 17:53:42 edt, you write:

>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>-----------------------
>the 1996 official "unofficial" indigo girls list t-shirt
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>-----------------------
>hi again ya'll!
>well, i had an awesome little vacation, as did deb, and now we are ready to
>unveil the design for the official "unofficial" 1996 indigo girl list
>t-shirt.
>please save this message!
>the following will be all the info you need to get your t-shirt.  this is
the
>only time the shirts will be printed...and all orders must be received by
>july 9th, 1996.
>this means have it in the mail no later than the 6th!  ok,
>to see the shirt, designed by deb, check it out on my home page.
>
>see it directly at:
>http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm
>
>or you can check out my whole home page, starting at the begining:
>http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm
>the ig shirt page has all the info to order as well.  so please forward that
>address to anyone you may think might be interested in a shirt so that they
>can check out the design too.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>---------------
>ordering and shirt info
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>---------------
>the shirts are completely a volunteer effort on my part and deb's part.  we
>both have volunteered our time and talents to bring this shirt to the
>list...hence, they will be sold at cost!  absolutely no money is being made
>on these shirts...therefore we must have a minimum of 50 shirts ordered in
>order for us to break even.  if there is any money left over, which is very
>doubtful, it will be donated to a charity that me and deb agree on and
>believe in.
>ok,
>the shirts will be printed on 100% organic fabric.  they will have an earthy
>look to them, and will be completely environmentally safe!  this was a bit
>more ($1/shirt), but we think it is worth it!  the shirts are very durable
>and thick....excellent quality!
>the shirts will go as follows:
>l     $14.50
>xl   $14.50
>xxl  $15.50
>
>that is it!  $3.50 is added into that price for shipping and handling ($3
for
>first class, $.50 for the envelope)...so you really can't beat $11 to $12
>bucks for the shirt.  we are very proud that we kept the price so low, we
had
>to shop around :)
>to order:
>i must receive your order before july 9th!  i will be moving to ecuador in
>august and i must have enough time to get the shirts printed and then
shipped
>out to everyone.  i am sorry, i can't have any acceptions due to this
>restraint.  so order for friends and let them pay you back:)
>what to send:
>1. send a cashiers check, money order (made out to rob augino), or cash (at
>your risk) for the amount indicated above.  remember, shipping is included
>(if you have an international order, please add a few extra bucks.).
>
>2.also, please don't forget this!  send a shipping label with your order.
> remember, print the address you want your shirt sent to on the shipping
>label.  be sure to print your label clear and legibly!  it will be used on
>your package and you don't want it going to columbia instead of
>california...know what i mean?
>
>that is it!  please check out the home page for extra details..and if you
>have any questions at all...feel free to email me immediately!  i am very
>accessible and will answer any questions anyone might have.
>also, if you are going to order....please send me an email, just to let me
>know.  thanks:)
>
>thats it!  oh yeah, an address:
>rob augino
>7504 dunbar rd.
>wilmington, nc 28405
>usa
>take care everyone and i hope to hear from you soon!  thanks for the
support!
>rob augino
>ncrobino@aol.com
>
>ps. forward this to any lists that might have interested parties on
>them...ie. melissa etheridge, sarah mclachlan, tori amos, etc.....thanks ,
>and let me know if ya do...i don't have the addresses or i would do it.
> thanks for the help!
>
>

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 14:23:29 +0100
reply-to:     /i=rj2/s=ing/@chs1rh.boat.bt.com
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from:         /i=rj2/s=ing/@chs1rh.boat.bt.com
subject:      ig boots, what are the best buys?

from :

can readers mail me their list of recommended ig bootleg cd's ( and those to
steer clear of)

they're quite hard to obtain here in the uk, but thanks to goldmine magazine
i can pick then up fairly easily from the us.

are any uk fans interested in setting up a syndicate for bootlegs and other
stuff from the us? if you are please drop me a note.

keep the faith

richard

could any kind sould ....um soul out there describe the shirts for those
of us poor unfortunates without web capabilities?? thank you....

cylinda

hi again y'all,

well, response to my offer for that cc boot has been really great!  it's
good to know so many of y'all are listening to catie, or are interested in
hearing her stuff, cause she deserves to be heard.  anyway, response has
been so good that i have pretty mus much reached the limit of the tapes
i can make at this time.  so, what i'm looking for (hopefully) is for a
couple of the folks who i'm makig making tapes for to maybe come forward
and volunteer to make a few tapes for anyone else who may want a copy (i
really do think it's worth having, just excellent sound-quality and music
wise)  sorta like a mini and not very organized improp impromptu tape
tree.  if no one does this, hoew however, i'm willing to make more copies,
but later :)  just give me about a month or so to gett get these out and
recover and so forth and i'll be ready to go again.  but if any of w y'all
have already contacted me and would be willing to make a few copies for
other folks, could you please mail me?  thanks y'all.

cylinda

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 12:46:58 -0700
reply-to:     rhonda hoffmeyer <hoff@tusco.net>
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from:         rhonda hoffmeyer <hoff@tusco.net>
subject:      re: (repost)'96 list shirts!!! order now!!! see design! read me!
x-to:         ncrobino@aol.com

ncrobino@aol.com wrote:
>
> in a message dated 96-06-06 17:53:42 edt, you write:
>
> >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-----------------------
> >the 1996 official "unofficial" indigo girls list t-shirt
> >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-----------------------
> >hi again ya'll!
> >well, i had an awesome little vacation, as did deb, and now we are ready to
> >unveil the design for the official "unofficial" 1996 indigo girl list
> >t-shirt.
> >please save this message!
> >the following will be all the info you need to get your t-shirt.  this is
> the
> >only time the shirts will be printed...and all orders must be received by
> >july 9th, 1996.
> >this means have it in the mail no later than the 6th!  ok,
> >to see the shirt, designed by deb, check it out on my home page.
> >
> >see it directly at:
> >http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm
> >
> >or you can check out my whole home page, starting at the begining:
> >http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm
> >the ig shirt page has all the info to order as well.  so please forward that
> >address to anyone you may think might be interested in a shirt so that they
> >can check out the design too.
> >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >---------------
> >ordering and shirt info
> >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >---------------
> >the shirts are completely a volunteer effort on my part and deb's part.  we
> >both have volunteered our time and talents to bring this shirt to the
> >list...hence, they will be sold at cost!  absolutely no money is being made
> >on these shirts...therefore we must have a minimum of 50 shirts ordered in
> >order for us to break even.  if there is any money left over, which is very
> >doubtful, it will be donated to a charity that me and deb agree on and
> >believe in.
> >ok,
> >the shirts will be printed on 100% organic fabric.  they will have an earthy
> >look to them, and will be completely environmentally safe!  this was a bit
> >more ($1/shirt), but we think it is worth it!  the shirts are very durable
> >and thick....excellent quality!
> >the shirts will go as follows:
> >l     $14.50
> >xl   $14.50
> >xxl  $15.50
> >
> >that is it!  $3.50 is added into that price for shipping and handling ($3
> for
> >first class, $.50 for the envelope)...so you really can't beat $11 to $12
> >bucks for the shirt.  we are very proud that we kept the price so low, we
> had
> >to shop around :)
> >to order:
> >i must receive your order before july 9th!  i will be moving to ecuador in
> >august and i must have enough time to get the shirts printed and then
> shipped
> >out to everyone.  i am sorry, i can't have any acceptions due to this
> >restraint.  so order for friends and let them pay you back:)
> >what to send:
> >1. send a cashiers check, money order (made out to rob augino), or cash (at
> >your risk) for the amount indicated above.  remember, shipping is included
> >(if you have an international order, please add a few extra bucks.).
> >
> >2.also, please don't forget this!  send a shipping label with your order.
> > remember, print the address you want your shirt sent to on the shipping
> >label.  be sure to print your label clear and legibly!  it will be used on
> >your package and you don't want it going to columbia instead of
> >california...know what i mean?
> >
> >that is it!  please check out the home page for extra details..and if you
> >have any questions at all...feel free to email me immediately!  i am very
> >accessible and will answer any questions anyone might have.
> >also, if you are going to order....please send me an email, just to let me
> >know.  thanks:)
> >
> >thats it!  oh yeah, an address:
> >rob augino
> >7504 dunbar rd.
> >wilmington, nc 28405
> >usa
> >take care everyone and i hope to hear from you soon!  thanks for the
> support!
> >rob augino
> >ncrobino@aol.com
> >
> >ps. forward this to any lists that might have interested parties on
> >them...ie. melissa etheridge, sarah mclachlan, tori amos, etc.....thanks ,
> >and let me know if ya do...i don't have the addresses or i would do it.
> > thanks for the help!
> >
> >
>
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>         with the line: signoff indigo-girlsjust wondering if anyone knows where to get the rainbow flag static
stickers i have been seeing on car windows.  gotta have one.  thanks
rhonda

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 12:49:06 -0400
reply-to:     capistran amy l <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
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from:         capistran amy l <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
subject:      ig merchandise and an ani article
x-to:         ccp5913@acs.tamu.edu
in-reply-to:  <960607103756.20a1e27d@acs.tamu.edu>

hey all, i just moved into a new apartment and my walls are bare.  i
would love a poster of the girls but i have no idea where to find/order
one.  your help would be greatly appreciated especially if there is
anybody out there from virginia that could point me to a store,
preferably in the eastern half of the state.
        ok on to ani.  a friend of mine from la sent me a newspaper
clipping of an article about her concerts.  she says that this particular
paper never gives good reviews, and this writer could not stop praising
ani.  she basically called her a genius.  she talked about her devoted
fans calling them ani's army.  she then encouraged everyone to enlist.
it was really cool to see her praised that way.  just thought i would share
                                                        amy

hey y'all...
gonna be gone for three days... will miss the interesting ig stuff y'all
keep chatting abt... i tried to get onto the rob's site to look at the
t-shirt, but couldn't... so i'll have to just trust that it's wunnerful +
order in blind faith :- )
peace all... have a great weekend!! kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
******************
i am woman!
i am strong!
( i am exhausted )
******************

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 12:32:11 -0700
reply-to:     pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
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from:         pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
subject:      back online (nigc)

if anyone has been trying to contact me for the past 6 weeks, i have not
been online...

i am back now, but cannot check my mail frequently (only a few times a
week). if you mailed me regarding indicated 3, or regarding anything else,
you can mail me now!!

hope everyone is enjoying summer!!

peace...
pamela

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 17:01:08 edt
reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      nigc: alpha epsilon delta

i am just curious if any of you on the list are members of alpha epsilon
delta, the premedical honor society. if any of you are, i'd love to hear
from you, and i'd also like to trade some ideas about chapter activities.

mary kushman
treasurer, north carolina epsilon chapter

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date:         fri, 7 jun 1996 16:32:09 -0600
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      the ig list shirt for the web impaired :)

i figured it would be best to send out written description of the t-shirt
for those of you out there who may not have web access. get comfy in chair
and try to imagine this......

the shirt itself: a 100% certified organic cotton t-shirt (which means the
little ole cotton plants get to live in the field free of pesticides and
other junk). the shirt color is "natural" (ya know, off-white).

the front design: a left chest imprint that represents the girls. it
consists of two iconish/hieroglyphic guitar playing characters (similar to
the ones on the indicated ii cover). one rests in a mustardy colored not so
perfect rectangle and resides next to one in a burgandyish not so perfect
rectangle. the words "power of two" are in a handwritten looking font and
reversed out of a black not so perfect oval that rests above the
characters. below the image is the address of the list.

and if had the patience to draw
that with the keyboard characters
i would put it here --------------------->

the back image: one of amy's streams interspersed with lyrics by emily that
echo the stream's sediments. amy's words are in an upper case distressed
type font and printed in the burgandy color. emily's words are in a
lowercase handwritten looking font and printed in the mustard color. the
words are as follows:

i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street
i will walk down the street and i will hold my head high.

(my life is part of the global life)

i will walk down the street and i will say hello to everybody
and i will hold my head high.
i will say hello to everyone

(if the world is night, shine my life like a light)

i will not be ashamed
i will fall down and i will get back up again
i will not be ashamed

(nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal)

i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent
i will not be complacent

(by grace my sight grows stronger)

and we will not be complacent
and we will not be complacent
and we will not be ashamed

(my place is of the sun)

and we will be alive
and we will be happy
and we will walk down the street
and we will smile and we won't worry about it

(each life has its place)

we will not be racist
we will not be sexist
we will not be homophobic
we will not hate

(the evil ego and the vice of pride
is there ever anything else that makes us take our different sides?)

we will love we will love we will love we will love
we will love the ones we hate
we will love the ones we hate

(little version of the symbol from the front)

...it's all in our hands
got to learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones, fortunate ones i swear... (in burgandy)

words and lyrics by amy ray and emily saliers
all rights are theirs (in the mustardy color)

well that's about it. if after all of that you still can't imagine what it
looks like and if you have any kind of software that will allow you to view
a jpeg or eps file, let me know i can email you a file to view. or if those
little letters mean nothing to you i can fax you or snail mail you a
print-out of the design if you really, really need to see it before
ordering. just let me know!

deb
debbie@mei.com

thankyou for the description deb! you rock, lady!
thankyouthankyou......!!!
it meant a lot to some of us to get such a good descript.
loves
and huggs
and all that mooshy stuff...
victoria reed
eastern new mexico university

ooh, thank you so much for posting the description of the shirts!  of course,
it's also a bad thing because now i want one with a capital capital w!
unfortunately, i seem to have misplaced my original message that specified
how to get one, so if there are any kind souls out there or any girl scouts
who haven't done their good deed of the day yet... i would really appreciate
some info as to how i can get my little paws on this shirt!  thanks in
advance!  :)
love and hugs, kate*

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date:         sat, 8 jun 1996 01:01:04 -0400
reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
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from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      this post is brought to you by the letters n, i, g, and c.

hiya!
      oui!  c'est moi, encore! =}  i just wanted to remind all of youse guys
that i am, indeed, on the tape trees for indicated iii, the red light boot,
and indigo originals.  here's hoping that my other zillion messages will
actually get there this time... what else?  um, well, i work at the sesame
street general store and we're closing... =(  if there are any other fans out
there i am taking orders for merchandise while it is available... our last
day is supposed to be the 15th, but it might be later... i am more than happy
to pick up anything at all for any of you before the last day.  if there are
any other fans out there at all, please e-mail and we can chat! =)  anyone
else out there like peanut butter and pickle sandwiches?  my mailbox has been
relatively empty lately, so just looking for conversation...=}  anyhow, if
any of you want the tapes i'm offering, drop a line, or if you're as bored as
i am...;}  peace, love, and movin' on up, sarah

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date:         sat, 8 jun 1996 01:31:19 -0400
reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      re: rop tourbooks through fan club and boots owed

hello!
      me _again_... i just wanted to mention that i got a merchandise order
form from the fan club the other day and this particular item was crossed
out, so i guess they just don't have any more...
      if i owe you anythiing, please write to me.  ann, your tape is on its
way... anyone else, _please_ remind me!  taoe tree-ers, yours are all being
sent back in the order they were received.  you should all be okay now.  i'm
pretty well caught up.  that's about it for this one... i think i have one
more to re-write... see you all in a few! =)  peace, love, and dimming souls,
sarah

>to: igfan@rcam.com
>from: pmorris@awod.com (patricia morris)
>subject:
>cc:
>bcc:
>x-attachments:
>
>dear fan club,
>     i turn to you as a last resort to make my best friends 20th birthday the
>best ever.  she has been the best indigo girls fan for as long as i have known
>her.  a native of lagrange ga, how could she not me.  well, here's the basic
>jist of her story:
>
>     jann is my best friend. we met two years back in college and since then we
>have been an unstopable force on the world. in these two years, we have
both left school and been separated. she in georgia and i in charleston,
s.c. (this
>is the good part) we have arranged a trip and will be together for her 20th
>birthday. (this is the sad part) her fiance is in the u.k. and he won't be
able
>to make it over. she is quite obviously upset about this. (this is where i ask
>for a really big favor) i was hoping to get the indigo girls to send her a
>birthday card or something like that. it would make her year let alone making
>her birthday be the best ever!!
>
>     i realise that i am asking a lot, but for a fan like my friend jann
there's
>nothing in the world i wouldn't do for her. if i could fly her fiance over for
>her, i would. they have been together for a little over a year and have a long
>time still to go until they will be married, december 13, 1997 to be exact.
>they have endured so much. they seem to be the couple that never should have
>been. they met on the internet and finally met in real life in may of last
year.
>within three weeks they were engaged and a few months later she flew to the
u.k.
>to see him. since then, their relationship has been very trying on her
emotionally. they are so far apart and only get to see one another twice,
>maybe three times a year at the most. i wish he could have planned to be here
>for her birthday, but he just recently found a job, and there was no way he
>could make it. so this is where you come in. all i ask is a small birthday
card
>or note from the indigo girls for jann. (i must admit, i personally don't know
>much about the band, sorry)
>
>     final thoughts:  i would like to beg and plead for your kindness one last
>time on behalf of my friend. just the look on her face when she opened it
>would be more than enuogh to make me happy. i was hoping i could get you to
send
>it to me so that i can present her with it on the actualy day, which is
june 20.
>we will be in michigan visiting another friend and we are leaving on the 17th.
>so i have to think of the time frame here. i am slowly running out.
>
>so please please please... for jann.
>
>     if you can't help me, i thank you for your time but if you can, email me
>back and i will send you her full name and my address. even if you are not
able
>to help me out and perhaps have any other ideas on what other outlets i might
>try, please email me at  pmorris@awod.com.
>
>
>                                  again my thanks for all your time!
>
>
>                            a devoted friend,
>
>                              patty morris
>
>

i sent this to the fan club who's address you see at the top and they have
yet to respond weeks later. please... if you can help me.. i'd be indebted
to you
forever.

thanks..
patty morris

<< in a message dated 96-06-01 17:51:40 edt, mediamongr@aol.com (a person
with great taste, apparently!) writes:

>ya gotta love her, dontcha?

little does she know that i'm going to marry her... ;)

>  but dredge is cool, it's a cassette of a few shows by drag the river from
> around '91.  got it from rainy day (where else?). the memorable song on
there
> for me was "southern comfort."  i liked that.

i love the spoken stuff during "love thang", but since when does she need
_men_? =} i'd hate to think that she prefers them... it would lessen our
chances together, ya know? ;)

> also around somewhere is a tape called "strange bird - the authorized
bootleg
> '95," which ya gotta have if only for "i am a frog." there's some pretty
> cool stuff on there. i especially liked "california," because i heard it
> first electric w/band de soleil, so it's interesting to me how the song is
so
> much the same and different.

great tape! =) it has a lot of solo stuff that you don't often hear
anywhere else... it's pretty acoustic... it it incredible how versatile her
voice really is... "7th symphony" is so pretty; i listen to this tape every
morning in the shower... the woman never ceases to amaze me! =)

btw, i have a couple of copies of each of these boots on hand, which i sell
at cost plus a buck for postage.  no profits.  in fact, i think i'm actually
_losing_ money, but it's _so_ worth it... i recemmend "strange bird" most of
all.  i think _everyone_ should have a copy! =)  it's actually numbered and
signed and just a _great_ tape! =)    do write to me if you interested in any
of her stuff at all and i'll do all i can for you! =)  or if you're
interested in her and just want to talk about her more, as mmc is _always_
welcome in this mailbox! =)

> so anyway, i never heard of michelle til '93 or bds til '95, but now i
want
> to hear more.

me, too! =)

>if anybody's got any bootlegs, i sure would be interested..
> please let me know.

add me to that list!  always in search of michelle stuff! =)  i guess i've
said enough for tonight!  hopefully you'll get this this time around...
peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah
   >>

hey y'all --  i'm new to the ig mailing list...   in the past few days, i've
seen quite a few references to something called "indicated" with a roman
numeral after it.  could anyone explain this to me? -- is it a bootleg or
somethig, (and if so, how do i get my hands on one)?    also, if anyone has
any info. on purple parrot, (like, where i could buy it, or if someone is
willing to trade a copy), please let me know.   i have some things i'd be
willing to trade, but my collection is just getting started...

thanks fer noticin'

--- lisa (weenracer@aol.com)

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date:         sat, 8 jun 1996 03:19:24 -0400
reply-to:     mtngrl6@aol.com
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from:         mtngrl6@aol.com
subject:      happy birthday!! (june 8, 1996)
x-cc:         sherry@newwave.net, atlmouse@aol.com

happy birthday robin and sherry!!!

"...i laughed as i said it this is my situation it's not pictures or
privilege it's just self preservation i don't want you to feel any obligation
would it be so funny to be free..."

"...you dry your tears, don't be thinking grey is here to stay, sometimes
everything is in the way you're wanting to look at it, turn your view around,
dry your eyes..."

birthday folks:
atlmouse@aol.com (robin)
sherry@newwave.net (sherry)
*:);)*

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date:         sat, 8 jun 1996 03:58:01 -0400
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from:         staci smith <indigo555@wow.com>
subject:      swamp ophelia

hello all,
i have a question, here it goes...........i have 2 swamp ophelia vinyl albums, one is opened, the other ive never opened. they are both limited edition lp's and are both personally autographed by amy and emily.........the one i did open is a green vinyl, so do you think i should open the other one and will it loose value if i do, and last, does any one have any idea how much they are worth?
thanks yall
holly
p.s. and a special thank you to mary

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from:         whit kuhn <whit.kuhn@happcontrols.com>
subject:      red light cafe boot

born in june how do i get a copy?

whit

whit kuhn
asst. controller
<whit.kuhn@happcontrols.com>

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subject:      re: ooh! t-shirts!
x-to:         bump43@aol.com

in a message dated 96-06-08 00:27:50 edt, bump43@aol.com (kate pritchard)
writes:

>ooh, thank you so much for posting the description of the shirts! of
course,
>it's also a bad thing because now i want one with a capital capital w!
> unfortunately, i seem to have misplaced my original message that specified
>how to get one

ditto! ;)

rick
*god help the outcasts hungry from birth
show them the mercy they don't find on earth
god help my people, we look to you still
god help the outcasts or nobody will*
-stephen schwartz/"the hunchback of notre dame"

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subject:      how to get a 1996 list shirt!!!!  (save this message!)

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the 1996 official "unofficial" indigo girls list t-shirt
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hi again ya'll!
well, i had an awesome little vacation, as did deb, and now we are ready to
unveil the design for the official "unofficial" 1996 indigo girl list
t-shirt.
please save this message!
the following will be all the info you need to get your t-shirt. this is the
only time the shirts will be printed...and all orders must be received by
july 9th, 1996.
this means have it in the mail no later than the 6th! ok,
to see the shirt, designed by deb, check it out on my home page.

see it directly at:
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

or you can check out my whole home page, starting at the begining:
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm
the ig shirt page has all the info to order as well. so please forward that
address to anyone you may think might be interested in a shirt so that they
can check out the design too.
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ordering and shirt info
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the shirts are completely a volunteer effort on my part and deb's part.  we
both have volunteered our time and talents to bring this shirt to the
list...hence, they will be sold at cost!  absolutely no money is being made
on these shirts...therefore we must have a minimum of 50 shirts ordered in
order for us to break even.  if there is any money left over, which is very
doubtful, it will be donated to a charity that me and deb agree on and
believe in.
ok,
the shirts will be printed on 100% organic fabric.  they will have an earthy
look to them, and will be completely environmentally safe!  this was a bit
more ($1/shirt), but we think it is worth it!  the shirts are very durable
and thick....excellent quality!
the shirts will go as follows:
l     $14.50
xl   $14.50
xxl  $15.50

that is it!  $3.50 is added into that price for shipping and handling ($3 for
first class, $.50 for the envelope)...so you really can't beat $11 to $12
bucks for the shirt.  we are very proud that we kept the price so low, we had
to shop around :)
to order:
i must receive your order before july 9th!  i will be moving to ecuador in
august and i must have enough time to get the shirts printed and then shipped
out to everyone.  i am sorry, i can't have any acceptions due to this
restraint.  so order for friends and let them pay you back:)
what to send:
1. send a cashiers check, money order (made out to rob augino), or cash (at
your risk) for the amount indicated above.  remember, shipping is included
(if you have an international order, please add a few extra bucks.).

2.also, please don't forget this! send a shipping label with your order.
remember, print the address you want your shirt sent to on the shipping
label. be sure to print your label clear and legibly! it will be used on
your package and you don't want it going to columbia instead of
california...know what i mean?

that is it!  please check out the home page for extra details..and if you
have any questions at all...feel free to email me immediately!  i am very
accessible and will answer any questions anyone might have.
also, if you are going to order....please send me an email, just to let me
know.  thanks:)

thats it! oh yeah, an address:
rob augino
7504 dunbar rd.
wilmington, nc 28405
usa
take care everyone and i hope to hear from you soon! thanks for the support!
rob augino
ncrobino@aol.com

ps. forward this to any lists that might have interested parties on
them...ie. melissa etheridge, sarah mclachlan, tori amos, etc.....thanks ,
and let me know if ya do...i don't have the addresses or i would do it.
thanks for the help!

i just heard on the radio that clinton is granting clemency to leonard
peltier....anyone have any other info????
please god...
rachel :)

hey ya'll!!

i was just wonderin' about all the solo stuff that amy & emily have been up
to lately.
as someone who hasn't been a fan since the band's beginning, i was just
curious as to whether or not they've done stuff like this for a while, or if
it's just something they're doing since they're on the break now.
:)

rick

*when i lived in porpoise spit i just stayed in my room for hours & listened
to abba songs. sometimes i'd stay in there all day. but since i've met you &
moved to sydney i haven't listened to one abba song. that's because now my
life is as good as an abba song.
it's as good as "dancing queen".*

this may sound really stupid, but i've been wondering this ever since hearing
"bury my heart at wounded knee", (and i've quite frankly been too busy and/or
lazy to look it up)... so, since somebody brought up the name yet again...
who is leonard peltier? i'm just totally in the dark here...

happy birthday julie!!!

"...dodging your memories a field of knives always on the outside looking in
on other's lives i say love will come to you...."

jncalif@aol.com
"love will come to you"
*:);)*

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reply-to:     craig haskins <haskins@global.net.au>
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from:         craig haskins <haskins@global.net.au>
subject:      hello world!

this is my very first internet mailing list message! here goes...

back in january '95 i had the great fortune to see ig at perth's (western australia) concert hall. it quickly
became obvious to me during the night that ig were simply the best band in existance (previouly i thought they
were only one of the best). since then the words "i will not be complacent" have been running around my head.
i was so stunned at the time that i couldn't remeber the rest of amy's ...what do you call it...soc (stream of
conscience??).

about a week ago i succumbed to nethype and am rather happy i did.

ig on the net! - my life is part of the global life. in one short week i've discovered the ep and more,
reverse 1 - live, shades of indigo and now to top it all of, that shirt! - we are the fornutate ones, fortunate
ones i swear.

i jumped to rob's web sight and dowloaded the words on the shirt - amazing - the single biggest ig question i'd
had for over a year answered without asking. simple words but so powerful (especially with the memory of
hearing them live). if these words were recited daily in all classrooms around the world then in one
generation humanity would be forever improved.

a few lesser questions remain:

what do the words "all skate, now reverse" mean at the start of touch me fall (should that be tmf?).

can someone tell me about reverse 1 - live. i've sourced a copy but don't know the going rate or what it
should look like.

does anyone know where i might source a copy of ig's other promo's besides the ones listed above?

is there a list around of boots avaiable? (esp. is there one with "i will not be complacent" on it?)

has there been any hint of a new ig album?

just yesterday i picked up a second hand copy of buffy saint-marie's coincidence (and likely stories) (one of
the mysteries of life is how good cd's end up for sale 2nd hand!).  it's got the original bury my heart at
wouned knee and, dare i say it, it sounds better than ig's version (no flames please).  i too am wondering who
leonard peltier is.  and who was annie mae - did the fbi really do that?

anyway...i now have to let my credit card and bank account recover from this onslaught of ig and patiently wait
for the next world tour (you guys are so lucky over there!).

thanks to all for sharing the interest and making this possible!

craig

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reply-to:     "freeman hamilton (bus)" <fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
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from:         "freeman hamilton (bus)" <fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
subject:      collectors update, stuff i bought-stuff i saw

howdy. pretty good weekend at the record show. saw some interesting
stuff.. alot of it over priced. someone had a reverse one for 75. may have
taken a little less for that. same guy had a sealed watershed single for
20. i almost bought that..but came upon better things- i'm telling you
what i saw and how much for people who don't pick through goldmine or
don't have regular access to going prices..i figure a collectors update
should throw a little of that in too :) the poster guy had the regular
swamp ophelia poster for 8..you can get that cheaper.. but he also had a
simple swamp ophelia poster, it was mostly white and said something like..
swamp ophelia and the release date etc.. about three + feet long and 1 1/2
feet tall....was unusual..but very basic so i passed for eight bucks..from
the same guy i did get 20 by 12 inch promo flier cardboard thingy that was
advertising the show at the mann music center in philly a couple years
ago. it's red and white and has a picture on it from the so photo shoot. i
was at the show..so i thought it was worth it..probably not if you weren't
there though. i also found a copy of that four song ep w/ least
complicated, dead man's hill, mystery and kid fears.. that and an
australian power of two single cost me fifteen for the pair..about retail
i'd say? the least complicated one was made in england. i also found
another "breaking curfew" promo cd. that makes four of those so i may be
selling one soon. and the good stuff... i found a sealed copy of the epic
release strange fire.. the outside shrink wrap has a sticker on it that
says: previously released then a red line then it says featuring
under that it lists strangefire, crazy game and make it easier. then under
that is says "and the 60's classic" and under that it says get together. i
had not seen a sealed copy of this before so that made my day until i came
upon an almost mint original strange fire. they guy said he got it in
austin and had sold the ep he found with it a few weeks earlier.. the
prices were very reasonable ;) and i really wish i had a time machine to
go back and get that ep but i was really happy nonetheless! so that's
about it..not really much of an update except for the info about the
sealed strangefire. oh yeah..and i found a self titled cassette promo.. on
this one the word ownership was spelled correctly..so that makes two
correct spellings..one incorrect spelling 'ownsership' on the promo stamp
that i have counted to date so keep your eye out for the mispelled one! i
did buy the rop tourbooks as promised.. i bought all he had.. so the
people that wrote me have one for sure and if anyone else wants one..let
me know cuz i have more than the two i usually keep for myself :) have a
great week!
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      but where in greenville?

does anyone know where it is in greenville, nc that ig will be playing at the
june jam this coming saturday (the 15th)? sounds like a college gig, but i
could be wrong. please e-mail me back if you know any details! :)

mary :)

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reply-to:     water <water@nrv.net>
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from:         water <water@nrv.net>
subject:      radar rose, and their *new website*
x-to:         radarose@aol.com

hey y'all..

so, have you been looking for a band that has the same "lets change the
world" message as the indigo girls? a band that has a folk sound, that
sounds best in a stadium?

re- "is it folk? it is folk philosophy" "is it stadium rock? it is a
stadium message" (taken from the radar rose band mission)

*and* a band that has a website that is more than just the average band
website??

well.. check out the official radar rose website::

http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

if you've been there before.. go back!!!

why, you ask?

new features::

-smaller download times!
-lyric sheets!!
-a sound bytes page!!!
-new sound bytes!!!!
-a photo album!!!!!

also, this is the best way on the internet to keep in touch with where this
band is, and when they will be in *your* area.. :))

again, its::

http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

go check this out.. read the poetry, read the bios and the history.. its
truly a band to check out, and a band to keep your eye on.. they are
*definetly* going places..

take care and *smile*
brooke

"...you and i are so savage, with a gift for damage; you and i go breaking
bones,
wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva

"...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose

______________________________________________________________________________
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http://www.mindspring.com/~water.rose.html

"if we groove in passion and belief... it will exist"
-taken from the radar rose band mission

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subject:      happy birthday!! (june 10, 1996)
x-cc:         corinne.simpson@m.cc.utah.edu

happy birthday corinne!!

"...when you're learning to face the path at your pace every choice is worth
your while..."

corinne.simpson@m.cc.utah. edu
"watershed"
*:);)*

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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      greensboro ig??? and some with a camcorder for atlanta pride

when was this date announced????? i would have canceled the father's day
thing (actually, i did that last year, my very awesome stepdad shut the
phone off whenever i called since i did not send him a card ontime but if i
would have he would have known i went to see the dead in vermont, then all
three rem shows @ great woods and it took near suicidal tendicies to get
communication restored, course much more was going on than i wish to admit)
but if the ig are playing greensboro, please please recprd it with a stereo
dat line from their soundboard. (joking)
if em and amy are playing next weekend
someone tape it
mike r.

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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      atlanta pride confirmation...

someone here asked me if i could confirm that amy
and emily were playing atlanta gay pride on june 30
in piedmont park.

i am not able to, so is there someone out there who
can confirm that gig once and for all?

thanks in advance

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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      nz listers?

hi...just wondering if there's anyone from new zealand out there.
one of my friends has just gone to hamilton for 6 weeks and he said
that he'd look out for some ig stuff, but what i need to know is what
there is available in new zealand and whether there's any stuff that
you wouldn't be able to get in the uk. i'd be really grateful if
anyone could give me some pointers on this because it seems like to
big a spending opportunity to miss :)

my friend and i bought a double dar williams album the other
day...real bargain...ltd ed 2 albums for stlg15...really pleased with it
aswell (hadn't heard any of her stuff before)

gotta go

love helene

"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky" kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
44(0)1265 324010

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reply-to:     water <water@nrv.net>
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from:         water <water@nrv.net>
subject:      re: atlanta pride confirmation...

>i am not able to, so is there someone out there who
>can confirm that gig once and for all?

yes, the indigo girls *are* playing atlanta pride, they are headlining the
entertainmnet for the weekend.. they will play sunday night... this
announcement was made in southern voice back in may..

"...you and i are so savage, with a gift for damage; you and i go breaking
bones,
wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva

"...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose

______________________________________________________________________________
diviant rosehip gay but not narrow
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"if we groove in passion and belief... it will exist"
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note: this is the infamous new york times article that amy and emily made
reference to in the uptown lounge video and at several of their shows and
interviews in 1989. it is not positive, i am only uploading it as
background info.

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august 7, 1989 -- the new york times

2 with much to tell
by jon pareles

earnest pretentiousness has new standard-bearers - the indigo girls, emily
saliers and amy ray, who performed on thursday night at town hall. their
music revives the strummed acoustic guitars and close harmonies of
early-1970's arty confessional songwriters, and their lyrics push obscurity
and preciousness toward hyperbole.

still the indigo girls are currently a success on the college circuit. their
opening song on thursday, ms. saliers' "closer to fine," drew a cheer with a
line about being "free" at graduation.

the two indigo girls, from atlanta, both play acoustic guitars and sing in
tremendous, breathy altos. they can harmonize to gorgeous effect; their
unaccompanied version of paul simon's "american tune" sounded complete with
just two voices.

each indigo has a slightly different style of pretension. ms. saliers is the
more verbose songwriter, capable of such phrases as "while these moments are
still called today"; ms. ray, whose songs are a little terser, sings every
line with exaggerated ardency and performs with stagy self-congratulatory
gestures. it's hard to tell which one thought bob dylan's "all along the
watchtower" could be improved with the additional verses they sang thursday.

what draws listeners, apparently, is not just the folksy sound of the music
with its warming harmonies, but also the songs' promise of a healing
spirituality. the lyrics are full of biblical imagery and when songs can be
deciphered, they often allude (like u2's lyrics) to a search for something
to believe in, which may or may not be christianity. yet atop what may be
heartfelt beliefs, there's a nearly impenetrable layer of flowery bad poetry.

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indicated iii is ready so get your requests in now!!

for you newcomers, "indicated" is a series of tapes containing ig songs as
performed and recorded by ig fans from around the world. some of the songs
are a bit amateurish while others are close to professional quality.

indicated iii contributors: if you gave me your postal address, i will send
your copy of indicated iii to you.

overseas and canadian list members: send your requests to me. i will
handle all overseas/canadian requests.

here's the deal:

to get your copy, you have to remember the month of your birth. pick the
tape tree volunteer that corresponds to your month.

rob sticka:  january, february               rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov
sarah wiegman:  march, april                 sanawike1@aol.com
pamela shaw:  may, june                      sparkle@primenet.com
lisa nordeen:  july, august                  nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
stacy sheperson:  september, october         ssheperson@uoknor.edu
donna schwartz:  november, december          zkaa76a@prodigy.com

contact your respective tape tree volunteer to get details about their
postal addresses, self addressed stamped envelope requirements, sending a
blank tape, sending money, etc. no one will be making any money on this tape!

i don't want to bias your opinion of this tape but i think you're gonna like it!

i have made 6 master copies of indicated iii - direct copies of the tape
submittals i received. each tape tree volunteer will receive a master copy
from which they will produce copies. each tape was produced using no noise
reduction techniques (no dolby, dbx, etc.).

indicated iii contains:

side a

hammer and a nail - rob sticka/andrea bertino
mystery - scott ninnemann
galileo - two homesluts and a houseboy
strange fire - greg flamer/jamie weinberg/sherman serna
welcome me - lorinda wright/patty arrington
thin line - rob augino/courtney wright
finlandia - cats on fire
power of two - rob sticka/andrea bertino
hand me downs - katie mccurry/george patrick
blood and fire - pamela shaw
ghost - neil hunt/kirsti reeve/jaq delaney

side b

walk away - rob sticka/scot ninnemann
hey jesus - two homesluts and a houseboy
love will come to you - phil norman
three hits - lorinda wright/dan grossman
hand me downs - scot ninnemann
world falls - rob sticka
uncle john's band - cats on fire
land of canaan - rob augino/courtney wright
everybody's waiting for someone to come home - julie goldman/ashley filip
mystery - neil hunt
center stage - rob augino/courtney wright

i will post this same message to the list maybe a half dozen times over the
next two months.

if you're familiar with other lists that may be interested in this tape,
please forward this message to that list. we want to spread the good ig word.

rob sticka

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well hi guys, what's up?  i just returned from tucson, well, about 3 days
ago, where i saw ani and *almost* saw hope.  so of course i am on a major
ani high... but then i subscribed to the ani mailing list.  and i am sorry
to those of you fellow ig listers who are on the ani list, but they are just
not the same as our little family.  and i get tons more mail from them and
it seems to be pretty pointless.  okay, that's kinda rude.  but anyway i
just wanted to say that i love you guys the best.  :)  cheesy, but i am
overwhelmed with a feeling of love, since yesterday was gay pride in salt
lake and it was _fabulous_!  how lucky you atlantans are to get to see amy
and em at pride day.  i would kill for that.  oh well.
love...
corinne

   unlike a lot of amy's songs, this one to me is fairly self explanatory (no
that's not a putdown, it's just that she gets so _deep_ most of the time, you
have to peel away the layers to understand what she means, and even then each
of us can put their own slant on her words).  anyway, i degress. this song is
about amy's high school reunion, and her take on seeing people who probably
had very little use for her in those days, and now that's she famous, the
worm has turned.
   i know there are a few of us that have been out of high school long enough
to have gone to a reunion (or two).  my 10th one was back in 1984, soon after
i had given birth to my 1st son.  i went without my husband (his choice,
because he figured he'd feel left out, and he didn't want to cramp my style).
i was pretty apprehensive about seeing some of my old friends, mainly
because a lot of them had gone on to bigger and better things, and i had
dropped out of college the first year (worst mistake of my life). also, i was
going to see my old boyfriend (gerry) for the first time in 10 years, and
although i didn't have feelings for him anymore, i was curious to see if he
still had any for me! i know it doesn't make sense, but in my fantasies i
imagined him telling me "the worst thing i ever did was break up with you."
   well, i had a great time! everyone said i still looked the same (for good
or bad). i danced all night long to the old songs, and guess what? while we
were slow dancing to "our" song (colour my world by chicago, actually gerry
liked it a lot more than me, but it was huge the year we graduated) gerry did
tell me that the worst mistake he ever made was break up with me. in fact, he
wanted to go out for a drink, just the 2 of us, after the reunion, but i
wasn't interested. all in all, it was a very exciting evening.  and it case
you're wondering, i told my husband all about when i got home.

hope i didn't bore anyone... anybody else got a good reunion story?

angie in kc

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for those who don't yet have a copy of this - get one now! it a very
impressive collection of ig covers by fans. (it is especially cool
for those who have zero musical talent :) to hear other's interpretations
of ig songs!)

-sarah

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saw this on usenet and thought some of you who do not have access
would like to see it. it's an older magazine article but a good one,
imho.

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january 1990 -- atlanta magazine

mood indigo
by melissa harris

amy ray and emily saliers have just plunged into their opening number
at
birmingham's uab arena, and they're not even closer to fine.

after one false start on their catchy radio single "closer to fine,"
the indigo girls are
again struggling to harmonize over a rude crackling noise invading
their microphones.
it may as well be the sound of amy's fuse frying down to blast- off.

"fuck it!" hisses the brunette spark plug, flinging her pick into the
air. for the second
time in as many minutes the music stops. with a glare that could
deflect sniper fire,
amy thrusts her guitar into the hands of a wide-eyed roadie and stomps
out of sight.

awkward silence.

emily stands frozen, then quickly resurrects her composure and grins
sheepishly at the
hushed audience. "hey, did ya'll here the joke about the...?"

birmingham was just another stop along the road - literally and
figuratively - for the
indigo girls. it was the next-to-last show of a two-week tour plagued
by equipment
failures and bronchial infections.

in terms of the road atlanta's indigo girls have traveled in the last
year, from little five
points bar band to gold-album prodigies, the glitches in birmingham
amount to less
than a pothole.

after signing their first major-label contract with epic records in
the fall of 1988, the
girls began touring with big- time bands such as athens' r.e.m., neil
young, and the
violent femmes.

by last october, sales of their "indigo girls" gold album were
hurdling past 700,000
copies, and it was one of epic's hottest properties. the acoustic
twosome was
playing to mostly sold-out crowds at its own headline concerts. they
had released two
singles - "closer to fine" and "land of canaan." they'd rsvp'd to
invitations from
tv's david letterman, pat sajak, david sanborn and the today show.
there were
plans for spots on saturday night live and the arsenio hall show, and
the girls had
recorded "get together" for a wonder years episode.

all this and critical acclaim, too. save one all-out gouging by a rock
critic jon pareles
of the new york times - after his paper had earlier crowned the girls'
lp "pop album
of the week" - the pair has basked in hosannas. spin magazine
described them as
having "voices that could shake redwoods" and the boston globe
pronounced theirs
"the best debut album so far this year."

not to mention grammy talk, only natural after a year that rocketed
the girls to no. 16,
in october, on the rolling stone top 50 album chart.

but the fleeting scenes of a night in birmingham and the midnight road
back to atlanta
are instructive: herein, a peek at what happens when the big time
beckons, a
miniprimer on amy ray, 25, and emily saliers, 26, and why two folk
singers with
acoustic guitars are one of the first bands in years to effectively
inform the musical
world georgia does not end at the athens city limits.

"we enjoyed playing for ya'll. good night - just kidding," says emily
saliers
(pronounced sale-yers), the strawberry blonde indigo girls who, with
her more
emotive partner, has just returned to the uab stage. wiring snags
addressed, the duo
makes their third stab of the evening at "closer to fine."

dressed in a peach pullover, white overalls and sneakers, emily
delivers the verses of
"closer" in her elegant murky soprano. gymnastics are not her style.
she may bob up
and down when she really gets going, but generally, she moves onstage
like the
animal she is - a classically trained guitarist. vertebrae aligned,
wrists flexible.

it is amy - in ripped jeans, black t-shirt and steel-toed, spur heeled
cowboy boots -
who delivers the visual fireworks at an indigo girls concert. lots of
feet shuffling, a la
axl rose (lead singer of one of amy's favorite heavy-metal bands, guns
n' roses)
and lots of neck-veins popping and microphone lipping.

under spot-lights, her deep-set eyes dissolve into dark maelstroms
beneath heavy
bangs. spin magazine has observed the "she storms across the stage
like no one
ever told her acoustic guitars aren't 'axes.' "

but amy, still fuming, is noticeably immobile for the opening lines of
"closer." waiting
to chime in on the chorus, she stares down at a spot on the floor with
the look that says
you don't even want to know what's going to happen if it doesn't work
this time.

it works.

"thanks for being so patient," says the ever-cordial emily, sometimes
called sunny by
amy and their friends.

"this has been the tour from hell as far as wires go," adds amy, whose
tempest has
by now - typically - blown over like a fierce but brief summer shower.

occasional tantrums notwithstanding, the indigo girls are rare among
musical acts
today in that their work overshadows their personalities. they have
attracted many of
their fans, in the last year anyway, through a vinyl disc and its
intensely personal, yet
universal, messages.

as for self-promotion, the girls stay at half-mast. they do not sport
buzz cuts or skimpy
outfits. they favor blue jeans and t-shirts and the sort of
fashionably earnest
save-the-whales pitches we've come to expect from serious musicians.

the back cover of their gold album stumps for greenpeace, coalition
for the
homeless, amnesty international and people for the ethical treatment
of animals. on
this fall's south- eastern tour, they were asking pro-choicers to sign
a petition being
circulated by a student group.

but social concerns are practically the only traits the girls share.

emily meets newcomers with a polite lifting of the eyes. her voice is
raspy and quiet,
her body language unassuming. as one friend notes, "emily is a very
rich person
inside, and she is certainly not going to show that off."

amy, on the other hand, marches right up and sticks out her hand. her
speaking voice
has that throaty, raucous, honking quality you associate with a bad
cold. her world
seems to consist of two colors, black and white, and her moods of two
extremes,
happily bubbling or dramatically boiling. (she once fractured a bone
in her hand by
slamming her fist into a door.)

"amy's first response is emotional, and then she thinks things
through," says her
manger, russell carter.

as for their acclaimed music, critics have a hard time nailing down
exactly what it is,
describing their music as folk, folk-rock, acoustic pop, acoustic
folk-rock and so on.
the girls prefer the term - if you must - acoustic rock.

it's not hard to read into their popularity a nostalgia for the '60s
and '70s or a social
agenda for the '80s and '90s, but the girls come pretty close to being
honest-to-god
originals.

the hedge at the "folk singer," label, but only three songs on "indigo
girls" could be
credited with any kind of foot tapability - "closer to fine" (their
first radio single),
"land of canaan" (their second radio single) and "tried to be true"
(in which they
front r.e.m.).

few would argue that cheerful rockers have been the girls' bread and
butter. fans
come to their concerts not to party but to commune.

ironically, the girls' seriousness is the sole element critics
consistently harp on,
smirking at their brand of "new american sincerity." and there's no
denying they
occasionally lose self control, particularly on a couple of
unforgivable cringers such as
"feeding the cancer of my intellect" and the preachy "your actions
will follow you full
circle round."

emily, the lead guitarist who thanks joni mitchell "for the
inspiration" on the album
notes, is the balladeer - and voice of reason - for the two.

her tunes and lyrics, like her personality, tend toward the quietly
thoughtful and
complex. her images (posters of rasputin, someone of the bathroom
floor doing
cocaine), hearken back to real experiences.

"we always joke that my songs are little ditties," she laughs.

amy's compositions, however, erupt from the gut and gun unashamedly
for same.

in "kid fears," hailed by some critics as the album's most powerful
moment, her
high-octane alto growls and bellows in clever metaphors about idealism
sold for a
price. ("skipping stones/we know the price now/any sin will do./how
much further if
you can spin/how much further if you are smooth.")

amy, after all, is the person who wrote "secure yourself," a song
about the spiritual
journey into heaven, after her cat died.

and with lyrics like these from "blood and fire," "i'm looking for
someone who can
take as much as i give/give back as much as i need/and still have the
will to live," a
singer had best have her sincerity fully intact.

so much for the lifestyles of the rich and famous.

amy and emily are back at the motel near the uab arena, picking up for
the late-night
haul back to atlanta. rented as a preshow crash pad, the room features
yellow
concrete-block walls and fungicidally green carpet.

"how do you like these plush accommodations beth [stuebenbord, the
girls' road
manager] lined up for us?" laughs amy, adding that typically they've
managed better.

emily staggers from the room under the weight of a gaping garment bag,
known on
the inside joke circuits as "baby shamu."

"shamu done split a side," she ad libs, hoisting the bag onto the red
ford rental van
that has carried the girls for two weeks.

in the rear seat of the van are the indigo girls' two technicians for
this tour: a sound
engineer and a guitar technician. beth, the road manager whom the
girls like to call
bunny, shares a seat with emily.

amy is at the wheel when the van pulls onto i-20 east. never mind that
she has just
completed an emotionally draining two-hour performance and it is near
1 a.m. atlanta
time. or that she and emily have been on the road for seven months.

amy wants to drive. amy usually drives.

"i feel like this is probably the hardest year of my life," announces
emily, volunteering
for the first time that she is strictly a homebody at heart.

"sometimes i feel like it's not a real life to be moving from town to
town every day. part
of real life is being in a situation where you go through a daily
routine. it's very real and
constant and not 1,000 people a night feeding your ego."

amy, as usual, sees it differently.

"i actually get restless if i'm home for more than like a month," she
explains. "this has
been for me, for personal reasons, a easier year than i'm used to. but
i judge
everything on an emotional level - how happy i am. not like where i am
and what i'm
doing. i do look forward to my time off though."

time off is still a distant fantasy.

tomorrow night in macon they finish their southeastern tour. their
schedule for the
next five weeks includes two tv appearances in new york, a sold-out
aids benefit in
at the fox in atlanta, a 25-day tour in europe, the possibility of
more tv in new york
and l.a., then a stint in the recording studio in february for their
next album.

as their manager-lawyer, russell carter, puts it, "when you have a hit
record, you just
grab the reins and hold on and try to keep it from getting out of
control."

from where the indigo girls sit tonight, a couple of free days in
atlanta are looking
fine.

for all their divergent ways and means, the indigo girls come from
strikingly similar
beginnings. and for all their dark lyrical intensity, they come from
strikingly carefree
beginnings.

each is one of four children from tightly knit, high-achieving
families in suburban
decatur. they grew up a few miles apart, both attending laurel ridge
elementary
school, shamrock high school and, eventually, emory university.

emily is the second-oldest of four girls. the sole redhead among three
blondes, she
was told as a child that her red hair came from her grandfather red
saliers, a jazz
musician in new york in the 1920s.

her father, don saliers, is an easygoing, soft-spoken man. in a tweed
jacket, reading
glasses dangling from one hand, he couldn't look more like a college
professor -
which he is - if he tried. an ordained methodist minister, he teaches
theology at emory
university. he is also a composer, pianist and organist.

his wife, jane saliers, an articulate woman made even more so by
caution ("emily
told us not to say anything mean"), also looks her part: a children's
librarian at the
public library on ponce de leon avenue. in a high-necked blouse and
full skirt, she
wears little makeup and her thick brown hair is cropped into a short,
simple style.

the priorities of the saliers are no mystery. books and sheet music
are stacked
everywhere. in the corner of the den is a grand piano.

music is serious business in this household.

one of emily's sisters is studying classical opera with a coach from
the metropolitan
opera in new york. another assists the choir director at her college,
and the third is a
singer. emily's own musical penchant hardly came as a surprise.

as a 9-year-old in new haven, conn., where don saliers taught at yale,
she had
come to her mother with and advertisement for guitar classes at the
ymca. a musical
cousin helped her pick out a $20 guitar.

the memory tickles her mother. "in emily's guitar class, the teacher
was always
cocking his head and looking around to see who that was who sounded so
different."

a few years later, growing up in atlanta, emily studied with a
classical guitarist who
told her parents, "look, just let her play the way she wants to."

emily was writing songs in grammar school - message oriented music
about living,
laughing, loving and pollution, neatly foreshadowing the
issue-affiliated indigo girls.

for the introspective emily, although always a good student and fairly
involved, high
school was "always painful - no matter what." most of her pals were
from the school
chorus, she recalls, "and we were never considered cool.

"there weren't very many people with whom i had a special bond or
relationship. i was
still scratching at who i was."

most of the attention she received in high school was for music, drama
and good
grades. her senior year the teachers voted her a senior superlative
and her
classmates, most talented.

but for the most part, she looked to her family for acceptance.

"most of our daughters were always a little on the outside, not the
rah-rah girls," says
jane saliers. emily's father adds, "they found themselves looking
beyond high school
at a fairly early time."

meanwhile, in the ordinary brick home across the street from shamrock
high school,
amy ray - in typical amy ray fashion - had a few plans brewing of her
own.

third among four kids, amy was born in atlanta in april 1964 to
frances and larry
ray. her father is a radiologist and president of the medical staff at
georgia baptist
hospital, and her mother is a homemaker.

like the saliers, the rays begat go-getters. one of amy's sisters is a
resident in the
hospitals affiliated with emory university's school of medicine, her
younger brother is
in emory med school, and anther sister, after a few years of molecular
biology,
dropped medicine to run her own "wearable art" clothing store in
durham, n.c.

a pistol, amy ray was writing her own plays by second grade. because
she would
rush through classroom assignments in order to sit and socialize
before the bell, she
picked up the nickname "rush ray" in elementary school, a name that
still applies.

amy learned the flute and, about age 12, in an ironic parallel, she
heard the call of the
ywca guitar class.

as a high schooler, with an amplifier her parents helped buy, amy also
played at a few
restaurants, like big al's, a short-order joint in decatur, and
dante's down the hatch.
she also performed in the family's methodist church.

she and emily saliers had been acquaintances for years, friendly but
never running in
the same circles. amy, in fact, despised emily in grade school,
jealous of her more
advanced musical abilities. they didn't become a musical duo on any
routine basis
until late in high school.

unlike emily, the aggressive amy was a natural at high school
survival. elected
president of her 10th and 11th grade classes, she ran cross country
and track, played
flute in the marching band, shot photos for the yearbook, sang in the
concert choir. her
senior class voted her best leader. like emily, she was a senior
superlative.

"she's always had a tremendous amount of energy. she is a worker," her
mother
says. "she's always told us there are other people more musically
talented than she is,
but that she wants to do this more than other people."

nevertheless, the amy ray who graduated from shamrock high school in
1982 was
not the amy ray of today, the bellowing dynamo with a tattoo on her
left forearm.

her sister susan recalls going to see amy play at houlihan's at lennox
square. "it
was really pretty awful. she was so shy. she sat down to play and
didn't look up. her
hair was falling in her face and she played lots of slow ballads like
jim croce. people
would hardly listen to her because there was no personality there."

while amy's parents indulged her ambition, they openly feared she was
asking for
heartbreak.

"we didn't push her into this, that's for sure," says larry ray. i
told her there are 150
million people out there who think they can sing and write songs. i
have no
connections and no way to help you other than encouragement, and i
don't think you
should count on this."

"she didn't listen to any of it."

"we always did things to make ourselves feel better about out music,"
says amy,
explaining, at 80 mph in the wee hours of the morning, how the indigo
girls came to be
where they are. and why there making it when those 150 million other
wanna- bees
are not.

to have amy at the wheel with foot to the floor for this topic is
fitting. she has
commandeered the indigo girls in much the same fashion. although both
girls wanted
to be musicians, it was doubtless amy's singlemindedness, plus some
perceptive
navigating, that have largely kept them on track.

"amy knew how to make decisions back when we were on our own," emily
says.
"like she knew we needed to start playing rock clubs instead of folk
clubs because
people in rock clubs tend to be more openminded to different kinds of
music. i had no
idea what steps to take."

amy's and emily's lives have been laced erratically together for
almost 15 years, but it
was not until about 1980, when they began playing together on a
regular basis, that
the weave was pulled tight.

that year, under the name saliers and ray, they decided to try their
hand at a
buckhead bar called good ol' days.

their career was interrupted when emily left for h. sophie newcomb
college at
tulane in new orleans in 1981. amy left for vanderbilt the next year.
by 1983 both
were back at emory, where their musical skills were put to use in
student theater
productions. ("strange fire," one song they composed for a student
play, became the
name of an early independently handled album.)

back in atlanta they named themselves indigo girls. it means nothing.
amy simply
pulled it out of the dictionary and haphazardly settled on the work
"indigo," and that
was the end of that.

the indigo girls are a classic overnight success: they labored like
plow horses for
years and then happened to be in the right place at the right time.

both graduated from emory, saliers as a phi beta kappa. amy was a good
student,
but as her sister says, "went to college on the side" while chasing
stardom in the bars
at night.

by this time their faces were familiar to atlanta club-goers. on
almost any given night,
the indigo girls were serenading beer-drinkers somewhere. but they
came to be
associated with three local nightclubs: the dugout (now closed) and
trackside tavern
in decatur and the little five points pub, where they were fixtures
until epic duties
pulled them away. they drew an ardent following, some of the faithful
coming to listen -
no lie - two and three nights a week.

in 1985 they put out a single, "crazy game," and then an ep, "the
indigo girls," the
next year. "strange fire," a bare bones lp recorded independently in
an athens
studio, came out in 1987. it was produced as a demo, but the girls -
with a steady eye
to the bigger and the better - had it pressed into vinyl and sold
approximately 5,000
copies.

in addition to performing locally, the indigo girls had begun playing
in southeastern
college towns and were getting airplay on campus radio stations with
"strange fire."

by the time epic records came calling, the indigo girls were a kit
that required very
little assembly. they had been supporting themselves as professional
musicians -
playing their own music, not cover tunes - for about four years. they
already had a
sizable regional following of college students and a backlog of their
own material.

"they were at a point where they didn't need anything from anybody,"
notes amy's
friend cooper seay, a member of the atlanta band the ellen james
society.

all they needed was a ticket.

still, the ratio of bands to actual record deals probably makes larry
ray's "150
million" odds seem optimistic. and the percentage of bands that sell
700,000 right out
of the chute? well, don't give up your day job.

even the girls can't fully explain why them. "i don't know. it's like
right time, right place
sometimes," shrugs amy. "it's luck."

right on all three counts. the right place was atlanta, because it is
barely 90 minutes
from athens, where at that right time, most of the major labels in
america were trying
to woo a band called r.e.m. luck, because epic's liaison decided to
drop by the
little five points pub and catch another act he'd been hearing about.

"the day after i heard emily and amy play i couldn't get them out of
my mind," recalls
roger klein, epic's director of artists and repertoire. "i went back
the next night, talked
to them after the show, and then wanted to sign them to the company.
the didn't seem
like they were looking for a record deal."

says amy, who had already reserved studio time for their next
independent album,
"we were kinda laughing about the idea of a major label."

they stopped laughing two weeks later, when they found themselves
talking contacts
over meat loaf at the buckhead diner with klein and an epic vice
president.

"we were scared," remarks emily.

"i was excited, and then i was depressed for weeks," adds amy, who had
pushed for it
all along and then dug in her heels at the last minute.

"but i got over it," she chuckles.

"then our fans in atlanta started freaking out," says emily. "we were
all weeping at
the pub about how it's not going to be the same. it was sweet and
sour."

also at that right time, 1988, an artist named tracy chapman had
cleaned house at
the grammy awards, selling millions of records and giving the music
industry a little
attitude adjustment about the profitability of female folk singers.

although klein insists that tracy chapman-ia had nothing to do with it
("we didn't go
down there looking for an act to compete with tracy chapman. they are
not like tracy
chapman anyway"), it definitely didn't count against them.

now has the girls' lucky association with r.e.m., the athens based
rock band that
could probably sell a million records just by singing in the shower.

the girls hooked up with michael stipe, r.e.m.'s enigmatic lead
singer, after he saw
one of their performances at the uptown lounge in athens and asked
them to write a
song with him. then they performed with stipe at an outdoor festival
in athens.

"that was really cool," says emily. "then we just hung out with him
and learned a
bunch of songs and were friends with him."

the girls' ties to r.e.m. are strong: they've shared a record producer
and toured as a
warm-up band with r.e.m., and members of r.e.m. sang on the girl's
album.

when "indigo girls" passed the 500,000 retail mark, an extra gold
album was
delivered to athens.

amy wheels the red rental van into the fluorescent-lit parking lot of
a starvin' marvin in
leeds, ala., the group having loudly booed the environmentally evil
exxon station
across the street.

while amy pumps gas, emily, a connoisseur of minimart cuisine, peruses
the store's
display of cheese-food sandwiches and beef jerky.

no one gives them a second glance.

amy buys a copy of auto trader magazine, the first and only indication
that this is not
just a vanload or ragamuffins pooling their resources for a $25 road
trip.

she wants to buy a vintage corvette, which strikes some of her friends
as comedically
un-amy. she now owns a blue toyota van and lives in an army
barracks-style
apartment in decatur with plastic lawn animals in the yard. her decor
is a mish-mash
of goodwill-quality furniture, rock posters and junky memorabilia. she
has tie-dyed
sheets for living room curtains and says the thought of ever moving
"breaks my heart."

emily has bought a house not far from her parents, "complete with
leaky roof and all,"
her father moans.

be not fooled by their beggars' rags.

"the indigo girls made money from day one on the first tour since
their record came
out," says manager russell carter.

with two voices, five or six guitars, a road manager and two roadies,
the girls' touring
overhead is low. unlike many bands willing to go in the hole in return
for exposure, the
girls make money on the road.

now to mention selling close to a million records with a contract
weighted toward
royalties instead of advances. "record companies are happy to break an
act by their
third record," says carter, "so in that respect we're way ahead of the
game."

but carter dodges the specifics. "nobody's a millionaire. it's nothing
that dramatic or
even close to it. but they're making a lot of money, more than they
ever dreamed of , i
think."

as recently as two years ago, amy and her ex-roommate michelle malone,
who now
has a record deal with arista, were busking for rent money at the
atlanta arts festival
in piedmont park. "that was just a slow time where neither or us was
working a lot,"
she explains. "emily and i were making decent money at the pub."

but aside from amy's corvette tastes, their friends have seen no
indication that the
girls' take has been elevated from "decent."

"i can tell you money is the last thing they're concerned about in
terms of their career,"
says carter. "their one inclination is to give it away by doing
benefits. ...i think they're
a little intimidated by the fact that they're making a lot of money."

the talk has turned oddly confessional in the darkened van. the indigo
girls are
saying that they are obsessed with the idea of death.

"when i go to sleep...i think about, well, death bothers me a lot, so
that a lot of times i
have problems falling asleep. i'm kinda obsessed with it," says amy.

she doesn't know why, exactly. when amy was 15, a friend was hit and
killed by a
train. another close friend died in a motorcycle accident in college.
but those two
deaths only fed her natural preoccupation.

"me too," emily pipes up. "i remember lying in bed in high school and
thinking that
when you die you're never coming back - never, ever, ever, ever,
ever."

"that's why we sing together," amy jokes.

but not really.

it is remarkable that the indigo girls are willing to reveal this kid
fear (one that is, after
all, pretty universal) to a reporter. mainly because of the "too
serious" complaint that
has haunted their press. and especially because of the bludgeoning
they took from
critic jon pareles. following their show at new york's town hall last
year, he blasted
them as the "new standard- bearers" of "earnest pretentiousness." and
that was one
of his kinder comments.

"that hurt our feelings worse than anything," says amy.

"because he attacked us like right in the heart of what we feel we
aren't when he
called us pretentious," continues emily. "he called me verbose and way
too wordy,
and he said amy danced with self-congratulatory gestures."

amy laughs happily as if discovering some nifty irony about herself.
"he's right about
that!"

while unusually vehement for the times, pareles' review bears
mentioning as the lone
slam in a red-banner year.

the girls played madison square garden with r.e.m. at the omni they
got a standing
ovation as r.e.m.'s warm-up band. at their first-ever denver show, in
the red rocks
amphitheater, half the crowd stood and cheered simply because the
girls waked onto
the stage.

even a show with all the makings of a disaster at the roxy in los
angeles became a
triumph. it was arranged as the girls' formal debut before the west
coast music
industry, and the audience was filled with record company brass and
press. a rumor
was circulating that joni mitchell was coming. but when amy stepped up
to the
microphone just a few songs into the show, the mike delivered her a
nasty shock. one
or two numbers later, her guitar shocked her badly enough to produce
burn marks on
her fingers. she threw the guitar off and quickly exited the stage.
the show was
canceled and everyone in the audience was offered free tickets to the
next night's
show. some of them came back; no one complained or asked for a refund,
says
epic's roger klein. the girls handed out gag hand-buzzers to those who
returned.
the critics gushed.

it is near 4 a.m. and the critics are asleep. the atlanta skyline has
just risen up in the
windshield of the indigo girls' red rental van.

"i like life now," states amy ray, laughing, as usual, in a kind of
childlike
self-wonderment.

"i miss playing atlanta," adds emily. "i miss the pub a lot. i miss
having people treat
up like we're not any bigger or better than we are."

bunny, stirring from her slumber, begins reeling off the girls' to-do
list for tomorrow - or
rather, today.

amy eases down from 80 mph.

emily emits a long sigh.

"i can't believe we're home. it is so weird. i'm so happy."

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 15:27:26 est
reply-to:     "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
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from:         "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
subject:      re: is it true? leonard peltier! some ig content...

i just received an e-mail from the leonard peltier defense committee which
states the following

"unfortunatley this rumor (clemency for peltier) cannot be confirmed. many
people beleive that the most opportune time for clememcy will be following the
november election. the current administration has given no indication of a
decision yet..."

for all those out there who think (as i do) that peltier is wrongly imprisoned
should continue (or start) writing to the white house (e-mail them if you want)
and urging clinton for clemency for peltier. letters to the justice department
requesting a review of the peltier case should be sent too.

addresses for the above and other important people as well as information
on leonard peltier, and links to other peltier and native american related
sites can be found at:
leonard peltier defense committee homepage
http://www.unicom.net/peltier/index.html

e-mail: lpdc@irdir.net

also included in my e-mail reponse from the lpdc was:

"leonard spoke to emily (yes--- sailers!!!) recently and it was wonderful to
hear him so exicited about their (ig) support."

i urge all of you wonderful ig list people to follow a&e (and me, but i don't
count) and support leonard peltier. please learn about the issues at hand
and if so compeled by the blanant human rights abuses mr. peltier has endured,
please, do something.

thanks all!

in the spirit of the earh,
in the spirit of the earth, (ahh my e-mail system has no edit command!)
cynthia crecca
crecca@admin.njit.edu

p.s.--- i plan on ordering one of those way cool ig list shirts just as soon
as i can get my little hands on a money order! i hope there are enough of us
buying 'em to get 'em made! :-)

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 15:39:50 -0400
reply-to:     sweet pea <mmgst11+@pitt.edu>
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from:         sweet pea <mmgst11+@pitt.edu>
subject:      ig dream
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hello everyone,
        this particular dream i had several months ago, but i still
remember it pretty much as vividly as when i woke up from it.
        it starts out i'm in a rather large field, waiting in this long
line, about two football fields away from my desired destination, a brick
building that looks like a high school i once went to.  _i'm_ in line
because i want to see the girls, but everyone else in line seems to be
oblivous to this fact.  they all seem to be in the line for some other
reason.
        then something seems to slow down the line to practically a halt.
i'm getting really antsy and impatient, thinking that i'm gonna miss the show.
and i'm getting really irritated that no one else cares.  finally, i find out
why the line is moving so slow as i come upon about 3 or 4 people robed in
black who hug everyone that passes by.  apparently some small children or
animals had died at that location and all the people in line were
mourning.  well it seemed i was in the wrong line.  but, i didn't want to
be rude so i _quickly_ hugged the people and proceeded to the ig site as
fast as i could.  still no one paid attn to me as i just left.
        at the building there was no one in line or anything so i just walked
right in.  i also didn't have a ticket, but neither did anyone ask for one.
inside was your regular small-ish high school auditorium which was
*practically empty*.  i went right up to the stage, which was really
high/tall.  due to the weird angle, i was virtually looking up their
noses.  the few people (30 or so) who were there seemed completely
disinterested in the girls.  i, on the other hand, was totally engrossed
in singing along, clapping, and having a good ol' time!  i was a little
bothered by the lack of fans and was trying to make up for it by showing
my sincere interest in and appreciation for their music.  i remember
looking over to my left and seeing that my gf was also there singing
along with me.  however, after that i didn't see any more of her.
        unfortunately, as soon as i got there they were doing their last
song of the show :(  [i don't know what the song was, though]  they were
saying their "thanks y'all"'s and "we had a good time"'s, etc.  i clapped
and hollered louder in hopes that they would play more.  but they didn't.
        then i thought that since i had gone to this high school and knew my
way around, *and* there was no security, i might as well go back stage.
so i walk down this hallway and ended up at a room which had about 10 or so
people in it.  stage crew, emily, etc.  but no amy. (i don't mean to be
rude to emily or anything, i do respect her greatly, this is just the way
it happened in my dream, and, oh yeah, i am an amy person...)  so i ask
emily, "where's amy?"  emily tells me that "she's looking for her shoe,"
and points toward a darkened room.  i think to myself "ok, i'll help
her."
        so in i go and find amy on her hands and knees crawling
around looking for her shoe in a room with the lights turned off.
wondering why its dark, and feeling a little weird meeting amy in a
darkened room, i ask her "what's your shoe look like?"  looking just a
little depressed she holds up a light blue converse, high top i think.
so i get on my hands and knees and help amy to look.  amy, gets up
though.  i'm just thinking to myself, "i've got to find this shoe, turning
on the light would probably be a good idea, if i find this shoe, she'll be
really happy/impressed"  then the dream ended.

usually my dreams are really weird in a not so happy way, so this was a
much welcome change. hey! you're still reading, wow! so what'd ya
think? any interpretations? (i'm not really looking for any, but
thought i'd ask for the sake of curiousity)

take care,
melissa

oo <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& oo
++                                                                     ++
<  if we ever leave a legacy it's that we loved each other well - ig    <
b                                                                       b
&       do you think i'm mental-          there's some things you       &
<       ly anguished - k.d.               can't deny - m.e.             <
b                                                                       b
&  don't tell me... who to sleep with, what to think... how to talk,    &
<  what to eat... how to look, who i can be... don't lay your morality  <
b  on me - phranc                                                       b
&                                                                       &
oo               *** i fuck to come, not to conceive ***               oo
++ <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& <b& ++

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 14:54:00 -0600
reply-to:     greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
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from:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      "ghost" company mailings

hi y'all--i was wondering if others on the list have been receiving snail
mail from a company called ghost out of avondale estates, ga.  i certainly
never asked to be on such a mailing list although i was initially pleased
upon opening the package i received today and seeing all the igc.  there
were lists of avaliable audio and video boots for sale as well as a bunch
of photographs for sale.
        at first i was excited but now i am skeptical.  i am not trying to
get anyone in trouble, but is this company sponsered by ig or epic or
russell carter.  somehow i doubt that it is.  i am very uncomfortable
purchasing any bootleg and even more uncomfortable about the thought of
someone trying to profit off of selling boots etc.  i know i would purchase
some of the items in this catalog because they are things i want, but i
won't do it until i receive some confirmation about the legitimacy of the
sales.  if the company is legit and this was sent to me because i am so
lucky then disregard all of this and thank you.  but it still all seems
fishy.  i'm from ny so i tend to get paranoid.  again the company is called
ghost.  they say to make checks out to karen--no last name.  an email
address is listed under igboo8@aol.com    any info on this would be
appreciated.  thank you

greg

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 16:03:02 -0400
reply-to:     "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
organization: charles river associates
subject:      carol noonan - eventual ig content

hi all,

i have an ig related question about carol noonan, but i wanted to say a
little about her first, for those of you who don't know who she is.

carol noonan is the former singer of knots and crosses, which was a band
in the new england area that had a pretty good following.   ** i highly,
really highly, recommend them to anyone and everyone on this list,  **
if you can find either of their albums, especially their first album,
which is called "creatures of habit" which is, imnsho (in my not so
humble opinion), truly an awesome album.  their second album, "curve of
the earth", isn't as awesome, in my slightly more humble opinion,  but is
still very good.

the music is sort of a base of richard (and linda) thompson, with a
sprinkling of loreena mckennitt, joni mitchell, and maybe a little indigo
girls. some parts of the first album are a dead ringer for "shoot out
the lights," which is, back to mnsho, one of the greatest records of all
time.

anyway, she is playing solo now and her second album just came out.  i
haven't reached an opinion about the new album yet, i just got it a
couple days ago, but the first solo album "absolution" is a worthy follow
up to creatures of habit.  the main difference between k&c and her solo
stuff seems to be duke levine, who some of you may know from his days
with mcc, who adds more of a rock and roll, mark knoefler type guitar
sound.  its much more prevalent on the second solo album, and i'm not
sure that i like it.

ok, now the ig content,   there is a person who pops up on all four of
these albums by the name of amy ray, which has a familiar ring to it.  :)
the question is if any one knows if it is ig-amy or some other amy ray.
i talked to four people with cn connections who i thought could easily
answer the question, and the vote is split 2-2 as to whether or not it is
amy.  so i thought i'd try asking people who know more about the indigo
girls to see if any one has heard about this before.  this question has
been nagging me for about four years now.

the amy that is credited did the artwork that appears on the cover of the
first k&c album, and wrote the lyrics to one song on each of the next
three albums. i was told a while back that it definitely was amy, but
the songs don't sound at all like her style, they're much more emily in
nature, so i've always wondered.

if anyone knows, i'd really appreciate finding out, thanks,

harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 13:26:36 -0700
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: carol noonan - eventual ig content
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> ok, now the ig content,   there is a person who pops up on all four of
> these albums by the name of amy ray, which has a familiar ring to it.  :)
>  the question is if any one knows if it is ig-amy or some other amy ray.
> i talked to four people with cn connections who i thought could easily
> answer the question, and the vote is split 2-2 as to whether or not it is
> amy.  so i thought i'd try asking people who know more about the indigo
> girls to see if any one has heard about this before.  this question has
> been nagging me for about four years now.

this is not the ig amy ray.  i know carol's publicist and have met carol
several times (and will second the endorsement of her music!) and
have also asked this question.  there is antehr amy ray in this world
and she lives in portland, maine.  my friend the publicist asked
her once about the coincidence and if she thought of adding a middle
initial or something to distinguish herself.  teh response was that
seh thought about it but then figiured that since everyone in her circle
knew her just as amy ray, she wasnt going to make any changes.

so, no, it is not amy ray from georgia.

but do go listen to carol's music. it really is quite good.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      re: it's reunion week! (june 10-16)
in-reply-to:  your message of "mon, 10 jun 1996 12:27:43 edt."
              <960610122742_323729328@emout19.mail.aol.com>

hey all,

when i first heard this song, i thought it was about a family reunion -
that's just the first thing that came into my head since it's the only
kind of reunion i've ever *been* to (i am just a young thing - only out
of high school 5yrs :)). anyways, it really hit home for me in that
context because i really don't *know* any of my family beyond the very
immediate since they almost all live at least 2500 miles away. so when
i do see them, i get the whole "i remember when you were this high"
speech (as if they're _surprised_ that i grew between the ages of 6
months and 20 years?!?) - 'i remember you when you were shiny and new'.

also, they're all basically from the prairies so they're pretty "rural",
which is fine with me, but i find the younger relatives i meet are always
like "oh, you're from the big city, you think you're so cool and we're
not" and the lines

'i laughed as i said it
this is my situation
it's not pictures of privilege
it's just self preservation'
and
'we act empty and innocent
but we are fueled by distortions
of lives led in discontent
trading misfortunes'

really hit home on that point - i interpret them as saying "life is
pretty much tough for everybody, even the people you think have it so
good and it's silly to waste your time complaining just because you
*think* someone else has it easy".

and the references to 'intimate strangers', 'guards like watchdogs',
protection possession and anger' conjure up all those family feelings
you can get, ya know? all these people you don't even know but they
think they somehow own you because of blood/marriage/adoption.

i know that's not what amy had in mind, but that's how i think
about it 'cause it works for me :) anyone else come up with that
interpretation?

ponies and apples,
-sarah

does anyone have the posting address for other mailing lists like...
tori amos
melissa etheridge
sarah mclachlan
etc....any that may be of interest to the indigo girls?

thanks a million!
rob augino

just a quick note to let everyone know that i will post periodic lists of the
orders i have received. so please keep an eye out on the list. this will save
me from e mailing everyone individually :) thanks.
if anyone has any questions...please write me!
see the shirt at :
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

take care
rob

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 18:43:59 -0400
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      i am not going to newport....but...

yeah it sucks that i cant afford to, but i may be in atlanta a bit earlier
(probably same day, maybe, slight chance of wed. night..if eddies has a am
and em concert -- tell them friday, friday would be good 8^) ) i am going to
the paralypics and was going to miss the opening ceremonies --
until i read chris reeve is hosting and clinton will be there. this is not
the special olympics but some truly competitive stuff, i wish am and em
would do a show or something...with vic chestnut opening..with michael stipe
guesting on kid fears. at eddie's and me in the front row..kicking back
after a 2 hou r exclusive interview with chris reeve.
(waking up from his daydream)
oops well i should be incredibly bummed i am not going to newport
<bummed mode on>
dude, like life sucks....
</bummed>
okay, i'm estatic because my folks are helping me go and hey! it's atlanta!

thanks to everyone who emailed me (jill and sarawinkle)

i probably will need mucho more info
mike r.

well ... i knew this would happen, which is why my orignial message clearly
stated nigc !!!!!!!!!!!!!

commonbond is playing the june jam in greensboro, nc - not ig ....

chris

i recently received a fantastic boot of their dublin show and for once i
heard an unbreathy emily phrase. it was during "tangled up in blue" and she
went into her head voice during "bird that flew" and it blew me away.
does anyone know if emily takes voice lessons? if she doesn't she really
consider doing so. if her tone was more consistent and focused she could be
anothe joan baez. i heard a ton of potential in that single note. she also
has a great chest voice in some of her songs also.
sorry if i sound pretenious,
ben

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 17:25:21 -0700
reply-to:     kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: it's reunion week! (june 10-16)

oh cool... it's about a school reunion??? alright, now i can make sense out
of it. i loved reuninon the minute i heard it, but like a lot of a's songs,
it's meaning wasn't completely clear to me... this song ( reunion ) had me
thinking maybe a was singing a song about how good it was to leave prison,
or something :-) but then... if you think about it; school is an institution
wherein one feels a lot like a prisoner... :-) hmmm....
of course, *that* theory didn't quite mesh with the "leaving an abusive
marriage" interpretation my busy little ( emphasizing the word "little" here
) mind wanted to put to it, for reasons i cannot quite explain now that i
look through the lyrics... but hey, marriage is yet another institution...
hmmm... i guess i was sort of thinking along the correct lines after all...
same planet; differnt world ( i really like vanilla ). <---- gary larson.
peace all... kim.
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<kim fischer>rcn@prcn.org
mercy what i won't give to have the things
that mean the most not to mean the things
i miss.... emily saliers.
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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 21:12:12 -0400
reply-to:     "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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from:         "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: it's reunion week! (june 10-16)

>oh cool... it's about a school reunion??? alright, now i can make sense out
>of it. i loved reuninon the minute i heard it, but like a lot of a's songs,
>it's meaning wasn't completely clear to me... this song ( reunion ) had me
>thinking maybe a was singing a song about how good it was to leave prison,
>or something :-)
so call me totally nuts, but the first time *i* heard reunion, i thought it
was about leaving the loony bin. "i had guards like watchdogs..." but i
loved it anyway, and i still do. i'd go so far as to call it one of amy's
very best. the lyrics are just plain amazing (even if you do need the lyric
sheet to fully comprehend them) and the music complements them perfectly.
this is one of those songs that you just want to listen to over and over,
preferably on a balmy june day with your windows wide open and a breeze
floating in and ruffling the curtains...good thing i have swamp ophelia on
cd!
kirsten
"would you trade your words for freedom, there's a barter for a blind man..
--
kirsten chevalier t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu wellesley hills->/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"shut up, brain. i got friends now -- i don't need you anymore." - lisa simpson
http://wilbur.wellesley.edu/n-z/t1kchevalier/t1kchevalier.html
."--a.r.

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 21:13:35 +0000
reply-to:     dave jackson <jacksond@uoguelph.ca>
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from:         dave jackson <jacksond@uoguelph.ca>
subject:      re: amy or emily?

hi everyone! :)

i've recently read many posts who refer to themselves as an amy or
emily "person", clarifying who they like best -- or perhaps who they
identify with most???

i've noticed lots and lots of "amy" listers and am wondering where
all of the "emily" s are!  if i had to "choose" (for lack of a better
word!) i must admit, i am in awe of amy's exuberance and enthusiasm.
however, i admire emily's soft-spoken words of reassurance and if i
had to relate my personality to a ig it would have to be emily.  i
love having fun, but am more introverted, i guess.  <grin>

then again...isn't it great when a+e=ig?

that's what it all comes down to, isn't it?

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
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lisa j. :)
burning brighter than ever!

sarah mclachlan melissa etheridge indigo girls
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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 18:55:23 pdt
reply-to:     paul lorette <plorette@cln.etc.bc.ca>
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from:         paul lorette <plorette@cln.etc.bc.ca>
subject:      tour dates

hello fellow fans.
i am new to the list and am wondering if anyone knows of a concert schedule
for this summer. i have checked some of the web sites and can't find any
info.
many thanks.
paul lorette (plorette@cln.etc.bc.ca)
terrace, bc.

at 09:13 pm 6/10/96 +0000,lisa j. wrote:
>hi everyone! :)
<sounds of kim's wildly flashing shears as she tries to trim down post to
conserve...erk!!!... banwidth>
>i've noticed lots and lots of "amy" listers and am wondering where
>all of the "emily" s are!
right here!!!!! right here!!!!... okay, i love a's intensity and her depth,
but i am definatly an e person... as in i relate to her. i can crawl into
her lyrics and... well... you know... she writes a *lot* about
relationships... and me, well i'm forever examining, well...uh...
relationships, and why this match or that fell apart... all of that stuff...
>then again...isn't it great when a+e=ig?
>that's what it all comes down to, isn't it?
abso-bloomin-lootly... depth, intensity, sensitivety and one hell of a
harmonizing/guitar strumming team... can't beat the combo...
peace... kim.
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<kim fischer>rcn@prcn.org
mercy what i won't give to have the things
that mean the most not to mean the things
i miss.... emily saliers.
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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 22:35:04 edt
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      which place?!? (some ig content)

a couple of things...

first of all, i accidentally deleted the file from my mailbox listing the
tour dates for the summer for ig...could someone pleeeeeeeze forward that
to me? okay--i will go ahead and plead insanity for doing that. :|

secondly, chris (guinione@aol.com) posted a message tonight saying that the
june jam would be in greensboro, nc--i remember from that tour list that it
was to be in greenville, nc. which city is it, or will there be two? even if
ig won't be playing i'd still like to know and i'd appreciate it if someone
would clarify this for me!

the insane biophysicist,
mary

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date:         mon, 10 jun 1996 18:53:38 -0400
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from:         "derek l. duncan" <104250.2055@compuserve.com>
subject:      "ghost" company mailings
x-to:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>

greg-

they advertise in goldmine too.  i receive their mailings too, but but have
never dealt with them.  i too am skeptical, because they accept checks made
out only to a first name, and they do business out of a po box.  i highly
doubt that they are in any way connected to ig or that ig condones their
selling of boots.  besides, i would guess that any of these audio boots
that "ghost" is selling for $8.50 could be freely traded for here on the
list.

derek

someone, i don't recall who, said that he/she had lost the summer tour
dates for ig and requested a copy from anyone who would share.
will you share with me too?

thanks! (in advance)
tuesday's child

"thounew my ew my mind like the back of my hand"
-- e. saliers

tuesday's child is
indigo@bbs.cowland.com

in a message dated 96-06-10 22:46:43 edt, mary writes:

>first of all, i accidentally deleted the file from my mailbox listing the
>tour dates for the summer for ig

uuummmmm.... am i missing something here ?? i was under the
impression that those darn indigo girls were not touring this summer.
(with the exception of the nojf and the nff)
oh yeah... i guess they will be appearing at the honor the earth
benefit in sept. ...but that doesn't constitute a tour...does it ????
....or did they change their minds ???
love !!
binky
"mama was clever, and my daddy loved her........forever."
(laura nyro)

happy birthday chris!! ;)

"i am looking for someone, who can take as much as i give,
give back as much as i need,
and still have the will to live.
i am intense, i am in need,
i am in pain, i am in love."

czgc94c@prodigy.com
"blood and fire"
:) {}x10

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from:         monique barbanson <mhb@entelechy.com>
subject:      nigc: how to take decent concert pictures

hi folks,

i finally decided to bite the bullet and buy a decent camera. the last
time i had something other than a point and shoot was when i was using
my parents' all manual camera, which makes me go back a while.
anyways, i know some of you guys took some really good pictures at the
no concerts, especially the night one on 5/4, and figured i'd ask for
tips.
what can i do to get decent pictures when i do not want to use a
flash? am i deluded to think i can do that?
some of the concerts i'd like to take pictures at, are in small cafe
like venues, so i could get pretty close to the stage. still the
lighting is generally fairly poor.
should i use a 1000 asa film or stick with 400 asa?
do i need to use a really fast lens? mine is a 28-80mm which goes to
f/3.5 at 28mm, f/4.0 at 50mm and f/4.5 to f/5.6 as you go towards
80mm. it was the standard lens that came with the camera.

if you have any clues, please send me email. if others are interested
in getting this info, send me email and i'll forward the info or
summarize to the list if there's lots of interest.

thanks,

monique

did you by any chance fall asleep listening to nis? follow me here.

mm>        this particular dream i had several months ago, but i still
mm>remember it pretty much as vividly as when i woke up from it.
mm>        it starts out i'm in a rather large field, waiting in this long
mm>line, about two football fields away from my desired destination, a brick
mm>building that looks like a high school i once went to.  _i'm_ in line
mm>because i want to see the girls, but everyone else in line seems to be
mm>oblivous to this fact.  they all seem to be in the line for some other
mm>reason.
mm>        then something seems to slow down the line to practically a halt.
mm>i'm getting really antsy and impatient, thinking that i'm gonna miss the sho
mm>and i'm getting really irritated that no one else cares.  finally, i find ou
mm>why the line is moving so slow as i come upon about 3 or 4 people robed in
mm>black who hug everyone that passes by.  apparently some small children or
mm>animals had died at that location and all the people in line were

"a ghost of someone's tragedy/how recklessly my time has been spent"

mm>mourning. well it seemed i was in the wrong line. but, i didn't want to
mm>be rude so i _quickly_ hugged the people and proceeded to the ig site as
mm>fast as i could. still no one paid attn to me as i just left.

"it makes us all angry though we feign to care"
"the heart and the mind on a parralel course/never the two shall meet."

mm>        at the building there was no one in line or anything so i just walke
mm>right in.  i also didn't have a ticket, but neither did anyone ask for one.
mm>inside was your regular small-ish high school auditorium which was
mm>*practically empty*.  i went right up to the stage, which was really
mm>high/tall.  due to the weird angle, i was virtually looking up their
mm>noses.  the few people (30 or so) who were there seemed completely
mm>disinterested in the girls.  i, on the other hand, was totally engrossed
mm>in singing along, clapping, and having a good ol' time!  i was a little
mm>bothered by the lack of fans and was trying to make up for it by showing
mm>my sincere interest in and appreciation for their music.  i remember
mm>looking over to my left and seeing that my gf was also there singing
mm>along with me.  however, after that i didn't see any more of her.
mm>        unfortunately, as soon as i got there they were doing their last
mm>song of the show :(  [i don't know what the song was, though]  they were
mm>saying their "thanks y'all"'s and "we had a good time"'s, etc.  i clapped
mm>and hollered louder in hopes that they would play more.  but they didn't.
mm>        then i thought that since i had gone to this high school and knew my
mm>way around, *and* there was no security, i might as well go back stage.
mm>so i walk down this hallway and ended up at a room which had about 10 or so
mm>people in it.  stage crew, emily, etc.  but no amy. (i don't mean to be
mm>rude to emily or anything, i do respect her greatly, this is just the way
mm>it happened in my dream, and, oh yeah, i am an amy person...)  so i ask
mm>emily, "where's amy?"  emily tells me that "she's looking for her shoe,"
mm>and points toward a darkened room.  i think to myself "ok, i'll help
mm>her."

"a dark abyss of an emptiness..."

mm> so in i go and find amy on her hands and knees crawling
mm>around looking for her shoe in a room with the lights turned off.
mm>wondering why its dark, and feeling a little weird meeting amy in a
mm>darkened room, i ask her "what's your shoe look like?" looking just a

"now you ask me why i'm here, the same as you, i'm scared, it's fear."

m>little depressed she holds up a light blue converse, high top i think.

"...standing on the edge of a drowning blue,"

mm>so i get on my hands and knees and help amy to look.  amy, gets up
mm>though.  i'm just thinking to myself, "i've got to find this shoe, turning
mm>on the light would probably be a good idea, if i find this shoe, she'll be
mm>really happy/impressed"  then the dream ended.

mm>usually my dreams are really weird in a not so happy way, so this was a
mm>much welcome change. hey! you're still reading, wow! so what'd ya
mm>think? any interpretations? (i'm not really looking for any, but
mm>thought i'd ask for the sake of curiousity)

...this is what i think it's all about.  i think that you are searching
for your path in life (in a field, on a long line, two football fields
from your "desired destination").  in your (understandably) overwhelming
admiration for ig you are attempting to adopt their (amy's) path. ("i
get on my hands and knees to help amy look")  in your dream your desire to
help amy find her shoe in the dark (which represents her footing on her
own path) and your hopes of shedding light on her search and
pleasing/impressing her shows that you hope that if you prove yourself
worthy by helping her find her way then she may help you find yours or
allow you to follow her's.
but, "amy gets up though", symbolizing that your paths are not meant to
be the same, and you must find your own way.

"here's a chance to make a choice/ are you aware of the fire beneath
your feet?"

when your learning to face the path at your pace/ every choice is worth
your while."

"she's not chosen this path, but she watches who it crosses."

but, hey, what do i know? i'm just an aspiring psychotherapist.

tuesday's child

"thought i knew my mind like the back of my hand"
-- e. saliers

tuesday's child is
indigo@bbs.cowland.com

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 07:16:27 -0600
reply-to:     corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>
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from:         corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>
subject:      life will come and go

okay, so yesterday's my 20th birthday, and i am all happy and loved and what
do i wake up to this morning but my dad saying, well, you gotta get up cuz
the police are coming... see what happened is i parked my cute little red
sports car, my lovely cute car that never hurt anyone in its life, outside
on the street, instead of in its usual home in the garage.  and some angry
soul bashed in the windows and took my stereo that i slaved for myself.  i
am kind of pissed about that, boys and girls.  i have never had something
like that happen.  that just about ruins my birthday.  now i am sitting
waiting for the cops to come...  i wonder if my 2 gay pride stickers had
anything to do with the young punk's decision to bash in my car windows, and
the stereo could just have been an added bonus.  probably not, but still...
   okay, there wasn't any igc here but i was upset and i had to vent.
yours unhappily,
:(
corinne

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 16:04:17 +0100
reply-to:     maren mitchell <mitchell@cip.lili.uni-osnabrueck.de>
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from:         maren mitchell <mitchell@cip.lili.uni-osnabrueck.de>
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subject:      re: emily potential
x-to:         joansl@aol.com

i don't know if emily has taken voice lessons, but i think that often
her breathy, light tone reemphasizes her soft, poetic lyrics. it is
good to see that she can use a head tone as well for some resonance
because really music is all about adjusting tone, tempo, rhythm, and
style to express a fluid musical idea.  a good example of her
flexibility in range and style is otmttg where she jams on some
gospel.  the song wasn't flawless, but definitely a refreshing change.
as far as joan baez goes, although i am also a big fan of hers, her
vibrato is often uncontrolled.
as long as we are exchanging vocal ideas about ig, i would like to
know ideas about how amy can sing so low and heavy for so long
without damage to her vocal chords?  anyone?

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 16:06:01 +0100
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subject:      re: tour dates
x-to:         plorette@cln.etc.bc.ca

ig should be playing at the atlanta gay pride festival on june 30th.

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subject:      re: other mailing lists????  help!
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on mon, 10 jun 1996 ncrobino@aol.com wrote:

> does anyone have the posting address for other mailing lists like...

check out the list of musical mailing lists. there's a link to it on my music
page: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/music.html

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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: the 1996 shirt orders~!
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on mon, 10 jun 1996 ncrobino@aol.com wrote:

> just a quick note to let everyone know that i will post periodic lists of the
> orders i have received. so please keep an eye out on the list. this will save
> me from e mailing everyone individually :)

you should just create a mailing list, i know you can do that on aol. i'll
try to watch this list, but i delete heavily from my ig list folder, so...

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subject:      indicated iii - cathy in uk

i hate to do this to everyone, but cathy from the uk sent me a message
requesting indicated iii. i tried to respond but the address was bad and
it came back to me. can cathy please try again and put your e-mail address
on the bottom.

thanks and sorry,
lisa
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                                everyone fooled."
                                                  -ani difranco
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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 13:29:30 -0230
reply-to:     lisa stowe <lstowe@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
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subject:      ticketmaster #??

i'm about to order newport tickets and i've misplaced the ticket master
phone number - arghhh - could someone please post the number to the list
or to me directly. thanks.

lisa

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subject:      a small request...no tapes...

hey everyone out there...
i'm sorry for taking up space, but i really have no idea who this refers to.
if i have given you my address for dubbing purposes, please don't share it
with anyone else who would like a tape.  if they want one, have them email
me first, okay?  i don't mind my address being out there, since it's only
a p.o. box, but people have been sending me tapes without postage, and the
like, and i have no way of getting in touch with them, because they didn't
email me first.  in any case, i don't want to speak for all the various
dubbers out there, but i think if you personally email the person for their
address, it makes problems a whole lot easier to solve.  :)  sorry to bitch,
y'all.  have a wonderful day!!!
sue

hi everyone!  just finished reading my new mail, and i saw where a few people
wanted ig "summer tour" info...  while there isn't a summer tour, per se,
they are performing three more times that i know of:  atlanta's gay/lesbian
pride festival, (june 30);  the newport folk festival, (late august?); and an
honor the earth benefit concert in sept.

i know that most of you guys already know this info., but that wasn't
actually the reason i started writing, anyway...  the thing is, i've been a
huge ig fan for about three years now... i travel to see them, i pick up any
cd,video, or magazine that features them... i think they're the best band
around.  and i'm really glad i finally found this ig-friendly group online,
because i feel like i'm finally getting some good info. on stuff like concert
dates, bootlegs, etc.   but the thing that continues to really bother me, is
the pathetic lack of information i get from the so-called "fan club", (russel
carter mgmt.).  i mean, i have been a fan for quite a while, and for all the
time that i _wasn't_ online, i felt like i was left almost totally in the
dark.   just as a for-instance,  for the swamp ophelia tour, they sent out
only the "first leg" of the tour, promising that more info. would follow on
the next legs -- but it never did!...  one of those dates that i was not
forewarned of was in my own hometown of cincinnati. i _fortunately_ heard a
little clip on the radio about that concert just days before the tickets went
on sale, so i was able to get good seats... but what if i _hadn't_ been
listening to the radio at the right time?  it just really irks me that the ig
"fan club" seems to do such a shoddy job of getting correct tour info. out to
the fans in a timely manner... after all, we are the real fans -- we're the
ones that want to be supportive... but you can't be at a concert if you don't
even know about it!    after the scary cincinnati incident, i kept
thinking...  who would the girls rather have in the front few rows? --
supportive fans who know all the songs and believe in the ig "mission", if
you want to call it that,  or bobby and susie highschooler who's friend told
them about the concert and they're thinking "oh, cool! -- that's that new
band that sings "least complicated!"...   i mean, it's cool that so many
different people go to ig concerts, but shouldn't they try just a little bit
harder to let us die-hard indigo-heads know in advance about tour dates,
etc.?        oh well... guess it doesn't matter quite as much to me now that
i'm hooked up with aol, but it's just one of those things that's been
bothering me for a long time, and i had to vent.   does anybody else have
similar feelings about the ig fan club?   (by the way, there are some things
i _like_ about the club, like how a&e write letters to us fans once or twice
a year ---  it's certainly more _personal_ that other fan clubs might tend to
be...  but it just really needs to get it's act together about getting out
concert info.)

before i sign off, there's one other thing i wanted to address -- it's in
response to those people that are talking about bootlegs for sale through
"ghost".   i obvoiusly cannot say for sure if a&e mind the fact that someone
is profiting off the sale of ig bootlegs, but my guess is that it really
doesn't bother them.  i was just in atlanta about a month ago, and i made a
stop at rainy day records, which, (for those of you who don't know), is a
second-hand record store that deals w/ig _alot_.  the owner was telling me
about the ep and more that's coming out...  he said it was a bootleg, but
that i needn't feel bad about purchasing one... he said something like, "
yeah, i just talked to amy the other day, and i told her, 'you know, they're
coming out with a bootleg of some of your old stuff, and it'll probably be on
sale over here in a couple months',  and she said, ' cool! -- it's like rem
and stuff!'", (referring to the huge underground of rem bootlegs that
exists).  then she went on to assure him that she knew of all the ig bootlegs
out there, and that she was fine with it... it's not like she's hurting for
money, you know?   anyway,  like i said, i couldn't say for sure if she's
alright with this "ghost" person, but i'm pretty sure that it probably
doesn't keep her up nights...    on the other hand, it is kind of silly to
spend $$$ purchasing a bootleg through a catalog when you can swap 'n' trade
so easily with all these friendly ig fans on the net... for free. ;)
        so there's my insight on that subject...   see y'all later...

"i have no need for anger with intimate strangers,
and i've got nothing to hide..." --a.ray

--- :) lisa (ween racer)

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 18:38:38 bst
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      (nigc) (uk) speakeasy - live acoustic music

hi folks,

major apologies for taking up bandwidth but the following is kind of indigo=
=20
inspired if not related :)

you may remember a post i made a while ago about starting a live music club=
=20
- well, it's happening, i've got a great venue, some really good acts and=20
interest so far looks extremely promising. big thanks to those of you who=
=20
have offered advice and encouragement!=20

hope some of you guys in the uk may be able to make it down sometime -=20
(we're only an hour from london). otherwise, i'd be really grateful if=20
people could forward the attached press release to any suitable newsgroups=
=20
or individuals. i'm particularly interested in hearing from performers who=
=20
might want to come down and play.

hope to see you there,
*************
seffy
cod=3d=3d#
*************
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
press release

date: 6th june 1996

contact:  seffy=09
                01273 728686 (office hours)
                01273 676360 (evenings)
                email: seffy@epic.co.uk
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------

speakeasy=20
live acoustic music

a new live music club is starting in brighton. 'speakeasy' aims to bring a=
=20
little bit of greenwich village into the heart of brighton and hove,=20
providing a space for songwriters and musicians.

the monthly event has been initiated by local songwriter seffy.  "i'm=20
constantly inspired by the power and talent of 'unknown' musicians.  sadly=
=20
though there are limited opportunities for them to play... i want to provide=
=20
an open environment for songwriters and musicians to share their work and to=
=20
encourage a community spirit.  as for the type of music that will be played=
=20
- well, my own preferences lean towards contemporary folk-rock, bit of=20
blues, bit of jazz - but i hope for an eclectic and diverse a mix of=20
performers as possible.  the nature of the venue however does suggest an=20
'unplugged' kind of feel..."

the evenings will feature local musicians, the occasional guest spot from=20
artists=20
further afield and a regular open mike spot for those wishing to have a go. =
=20
plans also include compiling a tape of highlights every few months so that=
the=20
performers will get something back and audiences will get a chance to buy=20
their favourites... watch out for 'speakeasy vol. 1 ' soon.

'speakeasy' launches on monday 1st july at the lift, above the pig in=
paradise,=20
queen's road, brighton. among the performers at the inaugural event expect=
=20
to see the surrey based a31 girls with their voluptuous vocal blend,=20
prolific singer-songwriter nicky mitchell, and thrash-folk giant big jim (of=
=20
'and the weedkillers' notoriety) in a rare solo set.

'speakeasy' will continue on a regular first monday of every month schedule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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summary:
new live acoustic music club starting in brighton.  'speakeasy' launches on=
=20
1st july, at the lift, above the pig in paradise, queen's road, brighton,=20
8.30pm start, =a32.50 entry. acts include the a31 girls, nicky mitchell, big=
=20
jim, and the isabella connection. contact seffy on 01273 676360 for details=
=20
- performers welcome.  'speakeasy' will continue on a regular first monday=
=20
of every month schedule.  =20
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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 12:52:59 -0400
reply-to:     rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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from:         rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject:      music mailing list info (nigc)
x-cc:         ncrobino@aol.com

you can get music mailing list info for other artists from

http://server.berkeley.edu/~ayukawa/lomml.html

but here's a few that rob augino wanted:

sarah mclachlan
  listserv@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
  message body: sub fumbling-towards-ecstasy your name
  mngr: stacey wacknov <staceyw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

melissa etheridge

etheridge, melissa (mle-info)
  listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca
     message body: subscribe mle-info your name
     a fully moderated information service for melissa etheridge.  no
     discussions may be posted here.  please include your full, real name.
     (it can be changed after you subscribe.)
  mngr: david johnson <owner-mle-info@vm1.mcgill.ca>
etheridge, melissa (mlether)
  listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca
     message body: subscribe mlether your name
     a discussion list dedicated to that wonderful recording artist melissa
     etheridge.  please include your full, real name.  (it can be changed after
     you subscribe.)
  mngr: david johnson <owner-mlether@vm1.mcgill.ca>

tori amos
amos, tori (really-deep-thoughts)
  really-deep-thoughts-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
  rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
     the list is available in a 24 hour digest format only. the purpose of
     the list is to discuss and disseminate information on tori amos and
     her music, and anything else that seems related or likely to be of
     interest to other tori fans.
  mngr: anthony kosky <really-deep-thoughts-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu> or
                      <rdt-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu>

the music list site was just updated a few weeks ago so it should be
reasonably up-to-date.

enjoy!

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reply-to:     "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
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subject:      re: nigc how to take decent concert pictures

on mon, 10 jun 96 21:17:17 +0000, monique barbanson <mhb@entelechy.com>
wrote:

[snip]
the light levels in cafes are such that you'd probably be shooting at
1/15 sec or longer at f/3.5 with asa 400 film. seeing that kodak's asa
1000 (fuji makes an asa 1600, but i've never used it) is fairly decent
(unless you're blowing up to 16x20 or something), i'd go with the
faster emulsion. if you can buy or borrow or rent something at least
f/2 or faster (there are a lot of normal -- 50 mm -- lenses there are
f/1.2 but i don't know if you want to have that shallow a depth of
field), i'd suggest that, as well as getting a tabletop tripod or a
monopod.

it's possible to get decent pix w/o a flash. just have to remember that
your exposure times are going to be long w/o it.

hope this helps.

regards,
rahadyan

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reply-to:     jennifer hall
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subject:      re: emily potential

i love emily's voice - and would never suggest that she take voice lessons.
what i have noticed about her voice is how it's changed.

so was my first album - then i got ig.  emily's voice was so low then - it
blew my mind !  i think i read that the change was due to her smoking back
then.  it was said that she quit - and since then her voice has gotten
clearer and higher pitched.

everybody's voice cracks. to hear one song and her not hitting a note
could be due to anything ( imho ). i haven't heard the exact song that was
originally referenced, but one crack doesn't mean she needs classes.
perhaps she didn't have much time to warm up that night.

from an "emily person",
- jen hall

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 14:37:09 -0400
reply-to:     andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      nojf boots for canadians

calling all canucks!

i know i may not be following the usual protocol here, but i don't
know how else to make sure you all get your boots as soon as possible.
i'm going to be away for a week and a half so if you haven't e-mailed
me privately yet, you won't get my address too soon. so i'm posting
it here. just send me 2 90 min. tapes in a sase to:

sarah andrews
4099 decarie blvd.
montreal, qc
h4a 3j8

by the time i get home, i should have all your tapes and the master
and will start booting like a fiend to get them out :)

this is for canadian listers only! if you missed the posting about
the boots and you're in another country, send a note to jude at
juhunter@fdic.gov to find out who your dubber is.

thanks for playing!
-sarah

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subject:      re: amy or emily?

i've always thought that there were more "emily people" out there - i guess
because we seem to spend more time interpreting her songs - therefore there
seems to be a broader interest in her and her work.

but that all changed when i attended my first ig concert at the recent nojf
concert.  so many people screames out amy's name and just seemed to get
into and focus totally on amy.  she really seemed to have more of a cult
following then emily.  as i posted previously, emily really didn't seem to
"be there" at the jazz festival - but amy was into it, so maybe that's the
reason for all the "amy gushing".  i just thought i'd see a whole lot more
of "we love you emily !!!! " and "emilyyyyyyy!!!!!!" screams coming from
the audience.  but i didn't hear any.

i personally have always been an "emily person", but after seeing amy, i
enjoy her much more and can understand how people can be an "amy person".

for what it's worth...
- jen hall
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from dave jackson <jacksond@uoguelph.ca>, on 6/10/96 9:13 pm:
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hi everyone! :)

i've recently read many posts who refer to themselves as an amy or
emily "person", clarifying who they like best -- or perhaps who they
identify with most???

then again...isn't it great when a+e=ig?

that's what it all comes down to, isn't it?

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
**************************************************
lisa j. :)
burning brighter than ever!

sarah mclachlan melissa etheridge indigo girls
**************************************************

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 13:21:49 -0400
reply-to:     barnard library public terminal <nobody@columbia.edu>
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from:         barnard library public terminal <nobody@columbia.edu>
organization: barnard college library, columbia university, new york
subject:      concert

hello, i run the special events at barnard college in new york and am
wondering if the indigo girls have any interest in perfoming there. if
you have any information that might help me our please e mail me at
dem25@columbia.edu thank you

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subject:      nigc - the cancellation of "americas most wanted"

sorry for the nigc but found this very important.

found thru the "web-vine" that fox is canceling "americas most wanted". in
my opinion, this is stupid. that show has done nothing but good for
citizens and law enforcement agencies.

my purpose is to reach as many people as possible to e-mail fox and protect
the series cancellation. please, if interested, e-mail fox at
*askfox@foxinc.com * and protest.

for more information on this, there is a site on the santa barbara police
web site at http://www.west.net/~sbpd/amwcancelled.htm
you can visit to get a full story on it.

thanks for listening..
- jen hall

what all that lisa said in her post aboot the 'fan club'.....
me too ! what she said ! :)
...after swallowing a bunch of pride, as the term 'fan club'
gives me the wllies and conjures up visions of "tiger beat",
which makes me queasy...i got on their (igfan) list hoping not
to miss any more seattle shows on account of they sell out before
i know about 'em...well, i got a merchandise list and a while
later i got a card urging me to call up top 40 radio stations to request
'power of two" (alas i don't listen to top 40).
but totally missed the honor the earth show in portland
because i never even knew about it !!!!!!!

complete tour date lists are important features of a (cringe) "fan club".
didn't pearl jam actually send tickets to some of their fans
for exclusive shows ? (way cool :)
i think that they(ig) are so huge (popularity wise) that they should
consider getting some part time help (at least) in handling these
matters.
i hate to say it...but the ig fanclub is pretty lame.
(this list is where it's at baybee !!!)
love !!!
binky

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subject:      re: nigc how to take decent concert pictures

film speed ....faster, faster, faster pussycat !!!!!
i shoot konica 3200 which can be pushed to 6400
(yeah baybee !!!!)
some photo gurus don't like that konica stuff though,
and swear by fuji 800 (too slow for this kid...grain shmain, i like it ! :)
( fuji 1600 is good, but i think fuji has 'cooler' tones (bule/green)
and i'm partial to 'warm' tones (red/yellow);)
just say no to flash !
yucky and anoying :(

love !
binky

it is my understanding that the girls aren't officially touring again until
1997...
maybe after a new album?
they do have a tendency, however, to pop up here and there in atlanta
(ex:eddie's attic, the point and pride fest).
maybe it's time the whole list moved to atlanta!! i have an extra room and a
really big couch :)
~~robin

"crazy game i never shoulda started to play but now you couldn't tear me
away"
e.saliers

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 18:18:09 -0400
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subject:      re: edirections to atlanta pride
in-reply-to:  <199606111758.naa19864@netspace.org>

i will be going to atlanta's pride from western north carolina. can
anyone tell me where the event will be, and how to get there from i-85?
our pride day got lots of rain and i had planned to go to atlanta's...now
that "the girls" will be there, i have to go!!! please someone tell me
how to get there!!!???

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subject:      more ig fan club...

i was glad to see the messages posted today about the ig fan club.  i have
tried to get in touch with them for over a week by the e-mail address given
in the 12:00 curfews album and so far nothing.  i thought at least they'd
have some on-line form letter or merchandise list that could have been
sent back immediately!  i'd appreciate any feedback from anyone who has
tried to get the info in this manner...just what's the deal at the club hq?

mary

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subject:      re: ig fan club
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com
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i hear ya mmeclaire...i joined for the same reason (and cringed for the
same reason), got the exact same two pieces of mail and heard nothing
about any tour dates. i have heard nothing from them since. (and i gave
up my free pearl jam ticket that i got from my roommate who was a fan club
member....if you ever catch me muttering somehting about karma and
tickets, that's prolly what it's all about...) what's up with this crazy
world?

*************************************************************************
"when you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. live your life in
such a way that, when you die, the world cries and you rejoice."--chief
seattle

******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

on tue, 11 jun 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> what all that lisa said in her post aboot the 'fan club'.....
> me too ! what she said ! :)
> ...after swallowing a bunch of pride, as the term 'fan club'
> gives me the wllies and conjures up visions of "tiger beat",
> which makes me queasy...i got on their (igfan) list hoping not
> to miss any more seattle shows on account of they sell out before
> i know about 'em...well, i got a merchandise list and a while
> later i got a card urging me to call up top 40 radio stations to request
> 'power of two" (alas i don't listen to top 40).
> but totally missed the honor the earth show in portland
> because i never even knew about it !!!!!!!
>
> complete tour date lists are important features of a (cringe) "fan club".
> didn't pearl jam actually send tickets to some of their fans
> for exclusive shows ? (way cool :)
> i think that they(ig) are so huge (popularity wise) that they should
> consider getting some part time help (at least) in handling these
> matters.
> i hate to say it...but the ig fanclub is pretty lame.
> (this list is where it's at baybee !!!)
> love !!!
> binky
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subject:      amy ray!!!!

last night...at the ani difranco concert in new orleans...amy ray was
spotted in the balcony....one girl jumped on the stage and was yelling
her name...she received a wave....then during one of ani's songs....she
has a part where she basically yells....f**k you multiple times....ani
was directing those at this one girl who deliberately starred at amy
for an entire song....so whoever the girl in the first row was....rock
on....amy was smiling and after the song ani had to go over to sarah
lee and explain to her what was going on....well anyways....i guess
just and indigo sighting.....if you want more details email me....don't
have all that much time to write....
lada...
kelly

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date:         tue, 11 jun 1996 22:57:47 -0500
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hi,
     i had my first ig dream the other night.  i was taking pain
medication so it might had something to do with the dream.
    emily, amy, my fiance, and his mother were all standing in a cemetary
in atlanta.  my fiance's mother was crying because she said that she had
now buried two sons due to this war.  i was with them ,too.  we all
started walking back through the cemetary.  it was summertime and was
sometime after sunset.  amy took my hand and she andemily started singing
a song called "atlanta nights".  i had never heard it before.  it was
slow and somber.  i remeber hearing the sounds of kids playing baseball
nearby.  then, i woke up.  weird, huh?

bye for now,
allison

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hi,
i know that emily grew up singing in the callanwode young singers os
atlanta. i don't know if she has had any additional training.

bye,
allison

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in a message dated 96-06-11 17:26:46 edt, mmedido@aol.com writes:

>i hate to say it...but the ig fanclub is pretty lame.

i agree! the fan club is a marketing thing, not to keep us informed!

do y'all think its time for a mass-mailing to russell carter????

jan

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in a message dated 96-06-11 18:15:23 edt, atlmouse@aol.com writes:

>maybe it's time the whole list moved to atlanta!! i have an extra room and
a
>really big couch :)
>~~robin

robin!

that rules! i'll bring my own pillow and guitar!

:)
jan

in a message dated 96-06-11 21:51:44 edt, kelly writes:

>last night...at the ani difranco concert in new orleans...amy ray was
>spotted in the balcony....one girl jumped on the stage and was yelling
>her name...she received a wave....then during one of ani's songs....she
>has a part where she basically yells....f**k you multiple times....ani
>was directing those at this one girl who deliberately starred at amy

oh my god.

how very rude.
(the girl, not ani)

one should allways respect the performer who is performing,
and leave the poor off-duty singer the hell alone.
what's wrong with some people anyway ???

miss malbletto has spoken.

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subject:      live at the red light cafe

hey all you canadian ig fans who sent me blank tapes for copies of scott's
live at the red light cafe... i *finally* got them done + in the mail
today... phew!!!!... i really apologize for the tardiness... i am usually so
much more dependable... but, as i've posted before, i've been overwhelmed by
major family troubles ( blah blah blah)
... anyhow... as i tap, they sit all jumbled together in the "all other
destinations" bin just inside the hallowed halls of my local post office...
"shriek" <--- intake of excited breath... soon you will have yer very own
copy... and you'll love it...trust me. ( trace... i got your's done too...
fergot to tell you on the phone... )
peace all... kim.
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well... she's in charge of making sure
that *no-one* runs with scissors!!!"...
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happy birthday michelle!!

"...i pick you up and in the trunk i've packed a cooler and a 2-day suitcase
cause there's a place we like to drive way out in the country five miles out
of the city limit we're singing and your hand's upon my knee so we're ok..."

michelldlr@aol.com
"power of two"
*:);)*

at 06:50 pm 6/11/96 -0700, you wrote:
>last night...at the ani difranco concert in new orleans...amy ray was
>spotted in the balcony....one girl jumped on the stage and was yelling
>her name...she received a wave....then during one of ani's songs....she
>has a part where she basically yells....f**k you multiple times....ani
>was directing those at this one girl who deliberately starred at amy
>for an entire song....so whoever the girl in the first row was....rock
>on....amy was smiling and after the song ani had to go over to sarah
>lee and explain to her what was going on....well anyways....i guess
>just and indigo sighting.....if you want more details email me....don't
>have all that much time to write....
>lada...
good god, the woman who spotted amy sounds psycho... couldn't she
just let amy enjoy the show in peace?

"...you and i are so savage, with a gift for damage; you and i go breaking
bones,
wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva

"...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose

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-taken from the radar rose band mission

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subject:      1986:  igs are in the pink

february 8, 1986 -- from the atlanta journal-constitution

indigo girls are in the pink
two guitars and 2 voices make for one budding act
by gary yandel

"i don't want to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time
too many people want to wait for heaven
but if you can't feel it here you won't feel it there any way."
-from "holy city" by indigo girls

for the record, it's indigo girls, not the indigo girls, and they're finding
what they want right here in atlanta - a faithful, if small, following.
also, for the record, which doesn't have a title yet, all the songs on it
will be their own, and it should be released this summer.

both indigo girls, emily saliers and amy ray, are getting sick of the blues
symbolism attached to the name. "i just thought it was catchy," says the
21-year old ms. ray.

"it's blue and it's deep," says 22-year old ms. saliers, laughing. "i think
it has a ring to it."

they've known each other since sixth grade at laurel ridge elementary school
in decatur, and they used to hate each other. "i was jealous of emily
because she was already writing songs and playing guitar. i wasn't writing
anything. i was practicing three chords," ms. ray says.

"yeah, i was writing songs about the sky and the clouds," ms. saliers jokes.

after getting over their aversion to each other, they got together in the
11th grade at shamrock high school. their first gig was a pta meeting. after
playing "open mike" nights at good ol' days in buckhead and sandy springs as
the b-band ("it stood for a bad word, but that was a bad image," ms. saliers
says.) and saliers and ray, they went on to bigger things such as playing on
bourbon street sidewalks and the late professor longhair's now-defunct
tipetina's in new orleans.

"we made enough to take the trolley home and get some dinner. we thought we
were great. we were really bad," ms. saliers says in retrospect.

they returned to atlanta and emory university in 1983, where ms. saliers
graduated with a bachelor's degree in english and ms. ray is pursuing her
bachelor's degree in religion and english.

and they've become accomplished enough as musicians and songwriters to have
a cadre of fans following them from club to club in the virginia-highland,
emory and inman park areas. they call themselves "the cheapest band in
atlanta," and cathy bufford, manager and booking agent for the moonshadow
saloon, says she loves working with them. "we've used them a lot, they're
reasonable, very flexible, enthusiastic and a lot of fun."

they've been the opening act at the moonshadow for such notable performers
as loudon wainwright iii, dave mason, and john sebastian and will open for
donovan march 9. they'll be headlining a rare acoustic set at the
harvestmoon saloon, where rock is the mainstay, on feb. 16-17. also on their
schedule is a benefit concert for atlanta clergy and laity concerned at the
little five points pub monday, feb. 10. they've done the background music
for the theater emory production of sam shepard's "curse of the starving
class," which opens friday, feb. 14, and, for the length of the run, also
will be sharing the bill with "shepard shorts" during theater emory's rush
hour and late night theater.

the music ms. saliers writes is a cross between mellow rock and jazz; ms.
ray calls her music "intense and driving" and a few of her songs are very
heavy on religious imagery. but the real treat is their voices, which are
best illustrated by their live a cappella version of paul simon's "american
dream."

they have a self-produced single out now - with ms. saliers' "crazy game," a
bluesy jazz song about love and insecurity, and "someone to come home to,"
ms. ray's soft rock song about breaking away from motherly ties (with vague
reference to a second coming of jesus) - which has gotten airplay on wras,
wrfg, and wrek radio
stations.

buoyed by their single's and live show's successes, they decided to work
toward a themed album that will feature only original material and highlight
their harmony.

"the album is going to focus on harmony because that is really our forte,"
says ms. saliers.

"it gives us the chance to intertwine our different styles. we have more
room to do a lot of different songs," ms. ray adds.

the indigos are working with producer frank french (a member of local band
drivin' and cryin'), who recently came out with an album of instrumental
music called "the new world," which he produced in his own studio. they've
been playing around with the title "blue food" but, ms. saliers says "we've
pounded the blue imagery enough. my dad said we should call it "scratch
tracks."

"we want it to be sort of a concept album. i feel it will hang together a
lot more," says ms. ray. "it will be the indigo girls' sound, something
recognized and unique."

"i think there is something about us that's unique, i don't know what it is,
but why do people come out to hear two guitars and two voices?" ms. saliers
asks. whatever the answer , they don't want to change their formula for
success. "we don't want to make any compromises for commercial music. we
just want to do what we do. no
madonna," ms. saliers says.

"and no lionel richie hooklines," ms. ray adds.

they'd rather try to keep their personal touch they said they have with
their audience. their shows are characterized by frequent interaction with
the audience, having a good time on stage and walking around during their
breaks to meet new people in the audience.

"it works to our benefit; it's easier and easier to get jobs. it's gotten to
the point where people call us and tell us about new places opening up," ms.
ray says. they book their own dates in town because they don't want to sign
up with a talent agent. "that just wouldn't work," ms. ray says.

"we want to do it on our own and do it now," ms. saliers adds. "we don't
want to wait five years for a warner bros. contract."

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from :

i'd like to agree with lisa re her comments on the ig fan club. i've e-mailed
then several times since i saw the address in the 1200 curfews booklet, but
i've never had a reply. it makes me more than a little weary of joining!!

richard

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strange but true . . .

about four years ago i moved into an apartment where the woman who had
previously lived there obviously was a member of the ig fan club because
i regularly received their mailings.  at least twice i got photocopies of
letters that a&e handwrote to the fans relaying what they'd been up
to--vacations etc., nothing too personal.  and i got merchandise lists.
and i got tour date info!  was i lucky, or what?  so, obviously the fan
club used to be on the ball, but at some point during the last four years
something's gone awry.

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on wed, 12 jun 1996 06:25:35 -0700, reggi wrote:

>and i got tour date info! was i lucky, or what? so, obviously the fan
>club used to be on the ball, but at some point during the last four years
>something's gone awry.

i think that something has gone wrong somewhere in the past couple of
years.  i had friends who were on the mailing list about the time that so
came out and got things like the letters, concert dates and so on.  i
didn't have a permanent address at the time so i would read theirs.  now i
sent stuff in quite a while ago and just recently received a two page list
of merchandise for sale.  period.  nothing new, nothing exciting, nothing
like the stuff in the past.  no idea why this has happened.

lisa
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subject:      <fwd> kcsa cd

i tried to send this msg to karen tongson but it bounced back to me.
sorry for wasting bandwidth...
---------------------------
subject:
        kcsa cd
  date:
        tue, 11 jun 1996 14:18:08 -0400
  from:
        "rahadyan timoteo (tim) sastrowardoyo" <tisast@nytimes.com>
    to:
        "karen tongson (ig)" <ktongson@getty.edu>

i just wanted to acknowledge receipt of the kcsa live from the music
hall vol. 2 cd that you sent last week.

i greatly appreciate your efforts in getting thse to all of us.

regards,
rahadyan

hey y'all...   i've just recently found out about the live at the red light
cafe'  tape tree, and i was wondering if someone in the know could tell me
how to get a copy --  sounds like a good show!    thanks!

--lisa

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subject:      nigc - environmental conference

just fyi, for those of you in the ny/nj/pa/ct area...

what: "reporting the true environmental risks of the 1990's," a two-day
conference sponsored by the society of environmental journalists.
when: noon, friday, june 14 to 2 p.m., saturday, june 15.
where: environmental & occupational health sciences institute (eohsi),
681
frelinghuysen road, piscataway, new jersey. (travel directions below.)
how: register by fax or at the door. fees: sej members/students, $25;
non-sej
members/working journalists, $35; non-sej members, $75. fee includes
friday
brown bag lunch, evening reception and dinner, and saturday breakfast
and
lunch. to register or for more information, call beth parke, executive
director of sej, at (215) 247-9710.
directions: from nj turnpike: take exit 9 toward new brunswick. take
route 18
north toward new brunswick. approximately 4 miles from the turnpike,
route 18
will cross the raritan river. keep to the left on the bridge. turn left
at
the traffic light at the end of the bridge onto river road (route 18
north).
at the fourth traffic light, turn right onto hoes lane. pass rutgers
university golf course. turn right on frelinghuysen road.

friday, june 14
--12 to 1 p.m.: registration and brown bag lunch.
--1:30 to 3 p.m.: "pitching environmental stories without using the 'e'
word": journalists will discuss tricks of the trade, what resources
they use
to develop stories, what are some of the underreported issues of our
day, and
what's the best way to pitch environmental stories to editors and news
directors, especially at organizations that don't have a separate
environmental beat.
--3:15 to 4:45 p.m.: concurrent panels.
(a) "fate of the harbors": the ny/nj harbor must be dredged to maintain
shipping lanes, yet recent epa rules have almost halted the removal of
toxic
sediments that had been dumped in the ocean. many ports face similar
conflicts between commerce and polluted waterways.
(b) seminar on cancer clusters.
(c) a case study in urban forestry: atlanta and the olympics.
-- 6:30 to 8 p.m.: dinner with keynote speaker, theo colborn, ph.d.,
senior
scientist, world wildlife fund, and co-author, "our stolen future: are
we
threatening out fertility, intelligence, and survivial?"

saturday, june 15
-- 9 to 10:30 a.m.: concurrent panels.
(a) "urban and suburban ecology": for decades, ecologists preferred to
study
wild ecosystems. now they're learning how suburbs and cities change the
way
nature works, from the surprising adaptability of some wildlife to the
troubling spread of exotic species.
(b) "here comes summer ozone": last summer's heat waves renewed debates
over
ozone pollution. are public health standards too lenient? can future
technologies solve the problem?
-- 10:45 to 12:15 p.m.: concurrent panels.
(a) "why lead won't go away": since the late 1970s, scientists have
known
that lead poisoning poses a major health hazard to urban children,
hampering
their learning abilities. the answers seem clear, yet the problem
persists.
(b) "whatever happened to pollution prevention": in 1991, new jersey
adopted
an ambitious pollution prevention law intended to please
environmentalists
and businesses by eliminating costly wastes. the concept was widely
touted
around the country, but many companies and environmentalists now
question its
effectiveness, although some industries have made it work.
--12:30 to 2 p.m.: lunch with herbert needleman, ph.d.., professor of
psychiatry and pediatrics, university of pittsburgh.

conference adjourns.

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on wed, 12 jun 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-06-11 21:51:44 edt, kelly writes:
>
> >last night...at the ani difranco concert in new orleans...amy ray was
> >spotted in the balcony....one girl jumped on the stage and was yelling
> >her name...she received a wave....then during one of ani's songs....she
> >has a part where she basically yells....f**k you multiple times....ani
> >was directing those at this one girl who deliberately starred at amy
>
> oh my god.
>
> how very rude.
> (the girl, not ani)
>
> one should allways respect the performer who is performing,
> and leave the poor off-duty singer the hell alone.
> what's wrong with some people anyway ???
>
> miss malbletto has spoken.
>
you know, i couldn't agree with you more miss malbletto.  if one is
attending an ani show, one should be supportive of ani, not amy ray.
after all, amy ray chose not to perform this year, remember?  whoever the
girl was who jumped on stage is rude and obnoxious.  where are people's
manners for pete's sake?  i love ani and her work, and i really don't
know how anyone could be distracted while watching her.  i saw her last
october and was so physically moved by her and her singing that it was
basically like, i was exhausted.  i realized that i felt on the verge of
laughing and the verge of tears the whole time.  of course, i walked out
and howled at the moon, and ran around kalamazoo (michigan) like a loony
for hours :)

i've spoken enough...

love
amata
>

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subject:      atlanta journal ('86) article

another ig interview/story from their usenet group.

subject: 1986: igs are in the pink

february 8, 1986 -- from the atlanta journal-constitution

indigo girls are in the pink

two guitars and 2 voices make for one budding act
by gary yandel

for the record, it's indigo girls, not the indigo girls, and they're
finding what they want right here in atlanta - a faithful, if small,
following. also, for the record, which doesn't have a title yet, all
the songs on it will be their own, and it should be released this
summer.

both indigo girls, emily saliers and amy ray, are getting sick of the
blues symbolism attached to the name. "i just thought it was catchy,"
says the 21-year old ms. ray.

"it's blue and it's deep," says 22-year old ms. saliers, laughing. "i
think it has a ring to it."

they've known each other since sixth grade at laurel ridge elementary
school in decatur, and they used to hate each other. "i was jealous of
emily because she was already writing songs and playing guitar. i
wasn't writing anything. i was practicing three chords," ms. ray says.

"yeah, i was writing songs about the sky and the clouds," ms. saliers
jokes.

after getting over their aversion to each other, they got together in
the 11th grade at shamrock high school. their first gig was a pta
meeting. after playing "open mike" nights at good ol' days in buckhead
and sandy springs as the b-band ("it stood for a bad word, but that
was a bad image," ms. saliers says.) and saliers and ray, they went on
to bigger things such as playing on bourbon street sidewalks and the
late professor longhair's now-defunct tipetina's in new orleans.

"we made enough to take the trolley home and get some dinner. we
thought we were great. we were really bad," ms. saliers says in
retrospect.

they returned to atlanta and emory university in 1983, where ms.
saliers graduated with a bachelor's degree in english and ms. ray is
pursuing her bachelor's degree in religion and english.

and they've become accomplished enough as musicians and songwriters to
have a cadre of fans following them from club to club in the
virginia-highland, emory and inman park areas. they call themselves
"the cheapest band in atlanta," and cathy bufford, manager and booking
agent for the moonshadow saloon, says she loves working with them.
"we've used them a lot, they're reasonable, very flexible,
enthusiastic and a lot of fun."

they've been the opening act at the moonshadow for such notable
performers as loudon wainwright iii, dave mason, and john sebastian
and will open for donovan march 9. they'll be headlining a rare
acoustic set at the harvestmoon saloon, where rock is the mainstay, on
feb. 16-17. also on their schedule is a benefit concert for atlanta
clergy and laity concerned at the little five points pub monday, feb.
10. they've done the background music for the theater emory
production of sam shepard's "curse of the starving class," which opens
friday, feb. 14, and, for the length of the run, also will be sharing
the bill with "shepard shorts" during theater emory's rush hour and
late night theater.

the music ms. saliers writes is a cross between mellow rock and jazz;
ms. ray calls her music "intense and driving" and a few of her songs
are very heavy on religious imagery. but the real treat is their
voices, which are best illustrated by their live a cappella version of
paul simon's "american dream."

they have a self-produced single out now - with ms. saliers' "crazy
game," a bluesy jazz song about love and insecurity, and "someone to
come home to," ms. ray's soft rock song about breaking away from
motherly ties (with vague reference to a second coming of jesus) -
which has gotten airplay on wras, wrfg, and wrek radio
stations.

buoyed by their single's and live show's successes, they decided to
work toward a themed album that will feature only original material
and highlight their harmony.

"the album is going to focus on harmony because that is really our
forte," says ms. saliers.

"it gives us the chance to intertwine our different styles. we have
more room to do a lot of different songs," ms. ray adds.

the indigos are working with producer frank french (a member of local
band drivin' and cryin'), who recently came out with an album of
instrumental music called "the new world," which he produced in his
own studio. they've been playing around with the title "blue food"
but, ms. saliers says "we've pounded the blue imagery enough. my dad
said we should call it "scratch tracks."

"we want it to be sort of a concept album. i feel it will hang
together a lot more," says ms. ray. "it will be the indigo girls'
sound, something recognized and unique."

"i think there is something about us that's unique, i don't know what
it is, but why do people come out to hear two guitars and two voices?"
ms. saliers asks. whatever the answer , they don't want to change
their formula for success. "we don't want to make any compromises for
commercial music. we just want to do what we do. no
madonna," ms. saliers says.

"and no lionel richie hooklines," ms. ray adds.

they'd rather try to keep their personal touch they said they have
with their audience. their shows are characterized by frequent
interaction with the audience, having a good time on stage and walking
around during their breaks to meet new people in the audience.

"it works to our benefit; it's easier and easier to get jobs. it's
gotten to the point where people call us and tell us about new places
opening up," ms. ray says. they book their own dates in town because
they don't want to sign up with a talent agent. "that just wouldn't
work," ms. ray says.

"we want to do it on our own and do it now," ms. saliers adds. "we
don't want to wait five years for a warner bros. contract."

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date:         wed, 12 jun 1996 15:36:09 -0400
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subject:      duplication of ajc article

i posted a copy of a '86 article from the atlanta journal & constitutino
on the igs before i saw carolyn posted the same article. i apologize for
the duplication.

i love reading the interviews and articles, so when i saw this one on
usenet, i saved it and sent it to the ig list for those who don't have
access. i didn't realize carolyn (welcome back if you've resubscribed)
was posting, also. sorry.

nancy humphries
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can someone please send me the info on the chapel hill boot that the tape
tree dubbed for folks a while ago? i deleted it by accident. oops, sorry.

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it is so nice to know that the folks on this list are wonderful
respectful and polite people, and not rude, psycho-trolls
from hell. judging from the response to the unfortunate di franco
incident, we listees were quite mortified (and rightly so).
i can only hope that "the girl" at the di franco show was roundly
rebuked for her major faux pas.

the people on this list are so very way cool !!!!!!

pinkies up !
binky malbletto

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me too! please?!

tuesday's child

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can someone please send me the info on the chapel hill boot that the tape
tree dubbed for folks a while ago? i deleted it by accident. oops, sorry.

chris ii
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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
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ok,it looks like this plan just isn't happening but i'll try one last time.
awhile back we all thought it would be a great idea to get a list version of
jesus christ superstar. unfortunately, i have only received one tape in the
past four months. although it is a very good tape one song hardly makes a
show. hell, one song hardly makes anything!
  anyway, if there are people out there who sing songs from jcs in their
shower bring a tape recorder in with you next time. or if you are the next
ted neely or carl anderson proove it too me by sending me a tape.
  my address here in jersey is
     ben slavin
    po box 394
  chatsworth, nj
       08019

well that's about it. please send your tapes. i'm so bored out here in the
middle of nowhere(20 minutes from civilization, thank you). if you sent me a
tape you could at least cure my boredom temporarily. i miss college!

good luck...or not,
ben

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 03:25:29 gmt
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subject:      re: ig dream
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hello everyone,

i too had my very first ig dream last night! (which is weird, since i've been
a big fan since 1990.) funny thing is, they were only like bit players in the
dream.

we were in this sort of diner/club, and amy and emily were sitting in one of
the booths drinking tea and talking. in the area where the stage &
instruments were, cooper and the rest of vld were practicing. (now this part
is really strange, since i only have a vague idea what cooper looks like and
unfortunately have _never_ heard any of vld's music -- not available here in
the philippines...) cooper and i started talking about her music, and then
they performed for me. i was the only one in the whole place, aside from amy
and emily. (in retrospect, i think i was interviewing her for an article and
the ig just happened to be there, as friends watching vld play.) i remember
really liking the music. after she performed, we sat down in one of the
booths to talk some more, and then we joined amy and emily where they were
sitting and continued this great conversation. what's really amusing is that
throughout the dream, the way cooper looked would always change, which is
probably because i don't really know what she actually looks like. everything
-- her features, skin color, voice. amy & emily seemed like great, friendly,
down-to-earth people.

hmmmm. must be something i ate.

anna

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subject:      re: amy ray!!!!

at 10:29 pm 6/12/96 -0400, "binky" wrote:
>it is so nice to know that the folks on this list are wonderful
>respectful and polite people, and not rude, psycho-trolls
>from hell. judging from the response to the unfortunate di franco
>incident, we listees were quite mortified (and rightly so).
>i can only hope that "the girl" at the di franco show was roundly
>rebuked for her major faux pas.
>the people on this list are so very way cool !!!!!!
hmmm... me, i second this opinion... i very much like y'all... this list
does not operate under a "trolls r us" mentality. i be comfortable right
here tapping with y'all or just reading what you've got to say. fun buncha'
people - you folk.
peace and a pscho-troll free zone... kim ( life takes its troll, please have
exact... uh, can't think of the "perfect" word to rhyme with change...
anyone???? )
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<kim fischer>rcn@prcn.org
"you havn't met edna, our oldest employee?
well... she's in charge of making sure
that *no-one* runs with scissors!!!"...
------------gary larson------------------
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happy birthday melissa!!

"...when i was young my people taught me well give back what you take or
you'll go to hell it's not the devil's land you know it's not that kind every
devil i meet becomes a friend of mine every devil i meet is an angel in
disguise..."

melissa.marquis@fmr.com
"jonas & ezekial"
(:);))

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i have recieved several replys to my cry for help (on directions to
atlanta's pride festival.) thank you everybody! robin, if you get a
chance e-mail me about meeting at the park.
onna

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 06:45:26 edt
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subject:      chapel hill boot

>can someone please send me the info on the chapel hill boot that the tape
>tree dubbed for folks a while ago? i deleted it by accident. oops, sorry.

hi all :)

the chapel hill boot has really been a very popular offering. one dubber
reports she had and filled 53 requests! needless to say, nobody even
mentions the words chapel hill in her hearing ;)

well, the people who were dubbing the chapel hill boot are now dubbing the
nojf 5-4 and 5-2 tapes, so somethings gotta give. if anyone has a copy of
the chapel hill boot and would like to do a little payback, please offer your
services to other listmembers. failing that, contact me by pressing your
answer button or at hunterj1@aol.com

thanks!

jude :)

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subject:      1987:  igs make a permanent impression

december 7, 1987 -- the atlanta journal constitution

indigo girls make a permanent impression with 'strange fire'
by gerry yandel

there's a lot more to being a working musician in atlanta than playing
guitars and singing harmony.

just ask indigo girls - amy ray and emily saliers - the local folk-rock duo
that has just released its debut lp, "strange fire," on its own label.

"we're tracking 250 stations across the country," ms. ray said, referring to
the indigo's efforts to send out press kits to radio stations nationwide.

a typical day for indigo girls is spent sending out about 75 press kits,
calling the radio stations that already have received them, and going to the
post office to mail out more.

"every day, you think you'll get done [with the paperwork]," ms. saliers
said. "every day of the week, you're doing the same thing. then at night you
go play."

the job still entails plenty of singing and playing; the duo has to satisfy
a local following that borders on the obsessive. the indigo girls frequently
play in other cities, including meccas of new music such as new orleans,
austin, texas, and nashville, tenn. this weekend, the indigos' will be
playing two clubs in greenwich village, the bitter end and the speakeasy,
before returning tuesday to atlanta and the little five points pub for a
month long engagement.

indigo girls have also found that they get a good reception from college
towns, and they have large, loyal followings in athens and chapel hill, n.c.

"i didn't think [colleges] would be [places where indigo girls are popular],
but they are," ms. ray said. "it's where the artsy crowds are. it's the only
place where there are new-music clubs."

usually when the indigos play out of town, however, it's to crowds of 50 or
fewer. as their following grows, however, they are content just to spread
their sound.

promoters by day and musicians by night, indigo girls say they're in it for
the music but admit fame and fortune would be nice.

although fans never tire of the indigo repertoire, ms. ray and ms. saliers
are always trying to write new songs. but their busy schedules leave little
time to work on new material.

the old stuff came out in mid-october on "strange fire". the album is an
accessible collection of original songs that are at times beautiful and
tender, other times angry and haunting, and sometimes all of the above.

indigo girls are hoping "strange fire" will attract a record label along the
lines of the independent island records.

"emi called us and wanted to hear more, so we shipped them a copy of the
album," ms. saliers said. so far, no word from the label.

the record is getting heavy air play on non-commercial radio stations in
atlanta, especially wras-fm, and it would appear indigo girls are close to
breaking into better paying gigs.

"i have a shiny new sports car and a condominium in virginia-highland," ms.
saliers joked. "nah, not really."

"strange fire" marks a milestone for ms. ray, 23, and ms. saliers, 24, who
met in grade school in decatur and were attending emory university when they
started playing together for pay.

playing in small neighborhood bars including rick's in virginia-highland and
the dugout near emory was an education. there, the indigos refined their
stage presence, tightened their mesmerizing vocals and wrote a slew of songs
that call to mind bruce springsteen and john mellencamp with a little early
dylan thrown in for
good measure.

everything they learned can be heard on "strange fire," engineered by john
keane, who produced "athens, ga. - inside/out," a showcase album of athens'
bands. ms. ray's vigorous rock riffs on her martin acoustic guitar are
complemented by ms. saliers' smooth, rich leads on her alvarez yairi
acoustic. the lyrics draw upon the indigos' academic background (both were
english majors) and ms. ray's fascination with theology. on the album, their
starkly different but harmonic voices enthrall even more so than in the
intimate confines of a neighborhood pub.

they said working with keane taught them patience and how to relax in the
studio. the indigos had recorded before, an ep titled "indigo girls,"
produced by frank french of the local band drivin' and cryin'. the six song
ep studio sessions were important, the musicians say, so they could get
their feet wet in the studio. but it
lacked the commercial smoothness of "strange fire."

thanks to keane's slick production abilities, the band now has a good
sampling of its music to shop around the country. still, the road to stardom
is paved with frustration.

"in d.c., they say you have to be played on the radio before you can break
the city. they won't play you on the radio because nobody's heard of you,
so it's a runaround," ms. ray said.

"it can be frustrating having to prove ourselves over the phone," ms.
saliers agreed. "i hate having to do that. not that i don't believe in us,
[but] it's hard when someone's opinion is: who the hell are you? it's not
like [in the movie] 'coal miner's daughter,' where you take your tape around
to all the stations and then you get your record deal."

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 08:10:39 edt
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today a "special three-judge panel declared that a new law restricting
'indecency' on the internet violates the constitutional guarantee of free
speech."

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

"congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances."

jude :)

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 10:49:05 edt
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>
> today a "special three-judge panel declared that a new law restricting
> 'indecency' on the internet violates the constitutional guarantee of free
> speech."
>
> yes!!!!!!!!!!!

well lets not break open the bubbly just yet. this thing will be
going to the supreme court soon (won't it be interesting to see where
justice "long dong silver" thomas comes down on this issue *grin*)

still, its a great day for the net and free speech. the decision just
ripped apart the cda, liking it to trying regulate international
conversations -- just what all the internet-literate people have been
trying to explain all these years. plus, its nice to have presumption
on your side when heading up the judicial ladder.

-- chris

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 16:17:10 +0100
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subject:      ig newsletter backissues

this is a heartfelt plea from one dedicated fan to another. if anyone
out there has a complete collection, or even a partial collection, of
the official/unofficial indigo girls newsletter which was in
publication until this past december (44 issues total over 3 1/2
years) and would be willing to make copies for me, please let me
know. i'd gladly pay for postage/copying. waiting for a reply,
-mar

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 10:56:39 -0600
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subject:      ig-list t-shirts - get your orders in!

hi folks...this is just a reminder that you need to get your money in to
rob if you want a shirt (see address info below if you misplaced it). we've
gotten a great, great response, but only a few have actually sent their
orders to rob. we need to have the cash upfront before the shirts can be
printed (unless some kind soul out there wants to finance this puppy --
hint, hint). so get your orders in because we won't be ordering extras!

if you need to see the shirt, head to rob's web site at:

http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

if you're ready to order, just keep reading....

ordering info
-----------------------
the shirt: 100% organic heavy weight cotton, natural in color

prices and sizes:
l     $14.50
xl   $14.50
xxl  $15.50

prices include shipping and handling. if your order is an international
order, check with rob to see what additional monies are needed.

to order (must be in before july 9th):

1. send a cashiers check, money order (made out to rob augino), or cash (at
your risk) for the amount indicated above to:

rob augino
7504 dunbar rd.
wilmington, nc 28405
usa

2.also, please don't forget this! send a shipping label with your order.
print the address you want your shirt sent to on the shipping
label. be sure to print your label clear and legibly! it will be used on
your package.

that's about it. if you have any questions, feel free to email rob
(ncrobino@aol.com) or me (debbie@mei.com).

thanks!

deb

hey everyone!  i'll be going to atlanta for the pride fest -- is there
anybody else from the list going?  is there someplace where people are
meeting up at the park, (stupid question -- in front of the ig stage, right?)
i think it would be really cool if all of us that were going could somehow
meet...   also, i know where piedmont park is, and i know what time the girls
are playing, but does anybody know what else is going on that weekend, (as
far as pride events)?  like, here in cincinnati, our pride weekend has "gay
day" at kings island amusement park...  does atlanta's gay community do
anything at six flags for their pride celebration?...   if anyone knows
anything, could you pass a little info. my way?  thanks!

---lisa

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subject:      nff tickets / thon ep

hi,

     just bin catching up with the digest after several days out of the
     office...and..i noticed to my alarm that someone (elizabeth losada i
     think) has received their tickets for newport.  mine hasn't arrived
     (!!) and so i wondered if anyone else had received their tickets from
     ticketmonster yet.  of course it could just be that i'm in scotland
     and not the u.s.  oh well, any info would be useful.

     also, i've noticed several posts about the ep and more from rainy day
     records...is it available in the uk (ha ha !) or would someone be
     willing to obtain a copy and send it to me ?? or <cringe..awaiting
     flames> tape it for me ?

     <sigh>...it looks like i'll be wearing my credit card thin buying cds
     when i'm over for the nff this summer - any info on the best record
     shops to visit in new york would be gratefully received.

e-mail me privately on the above address or 101635.715@compuserve.com
if ya can't get through on that one.

toodles

gail :)

...new leaves are turning, new days are coming. celebrate, celebrate
careless and light, aimless and free... mcdonald/mcalinden

     p.s.  oh yeah, nigc...i can't find any ani difranco cds over here and
     i'd like to hear some of her stuff before the nff (you've got me
     curious with all those ani postings on the list). ok, thats it..off to
     watch the european football (er...soccer) championships now....come on
     scotland !! :)

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 13:26:31 -0400
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> tori amos
> amos, tori (really-deep-thoughts)
>   really-deep-thoughts-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
>   rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
>      the list is available in a 24 hour digest format only. the purpose of
>      the list is to discuss and disseminate information on tori amos and
>      her music, and anything else that seems related or likely to be of
>      interest to other tori fans.
>   mngr: anthony kosky <really-deep-thoughts-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu> or
>                       <rdt-owner@gradient.cis.upenn.edu>
>
> the music list site was just updated a few weeks ago so it should be
> reasonably up-to-date.
wrong!

the tori list moved several months ago. it's now located at:
rdt-request@oasis.novia.net, but the name is still the same. the list
manager is cmeyers@novia.net. :)

nadyne.

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i know that disappear fear is playing at piedmont for pride weekend, and
were slated to play that night at eddie's attic, tho i have heard that
there may be a "glitch" with that and that they may schedule the evening
gig at another-to-be-announced place. have a great time at atlanta
pride--my pals and i went from il last year and it was a gas. re df at
eddies, you might want to check out with them who's playing (would be a
gas to catch the indigo girls at their old decatur haunt, but i'm not
starting that rumour!
take care.

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> hey everyone! i'll be going to atlanta for the pride
fest -- is there
> anybody else from the list going? is there someplace
where people are
> meeting up at the park, (stupid question -- in front of
the ig stage, right?)

i'll be at pride too. i'm going to be arriving in atlanta
on the friday because i want to hear michelle malone play
at eddie's attic that night. ok, so pide is at piedmont
park but when does pide start and finish? which day and
at what time are ig playing? where can i get a complete
listing of who is playing?

i need a cheap motel/hotel for that weekend. does anyone
who lives in atlanta have any ideas? i'm going to be
travelling to atlanta by greyhound bus ie. i won't have
any transport so a hotel near the park would be good....
but i will stay anywhere within reason.

i hope to see some of you there :)
sharon... the brit abroad.

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hi,
     i know that my fiance' and i will be there without a doubt!  it
would be really cool if we all could meet up and have some way of
dwould be really cool if we could all meet and find a way of
distinguishing ourselves from  the rest of the people there.  i don't
have any spectacular ideas though.
     as far as events, all i can tell you is that the parade is typically
on saturday.  usually around noon, i think.  you can pick up a creative
loafing or etc. magazine at almost any local bar and they have guide to
the weekend.  i know that there is also a day of rafting that people come
from al over to participate in in on the chattahoochee.

take care and hope to see you soon!
allison

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whoever has this information, please post it so we all can see it. thanks!

derek :)

on thu, 13 jun 1996, <sharon jennings> wrote:

> > hey everyone!  i'll be going to atlanta for the pride
> fest -- is there
> > anybody else from the list going?  is there someplace
> where people are
> > meeting up at the park, (stupid question -- in front of
> the ig stage, right?)
>
> i'll be at pride too. i'm going to be arriving in atlanta
> on the friday because i want to hear michelle malone play
> at eddie's attic that night. ok, so pide is at piedmont
> park but when does pide start and finish? which day and
> at what time are  ig playing? where can i get a complete
> listing of who is playing?
>
> i need a cheap motel/hotel for that weekend. does anyone
> who lives in atlanta have any ideas? i'm going to be
> travelling to atlanta by greyhound bus ie. i won't have
> any transport so a hotel near the park would be good....
> but i will stay anywhere within reason.
>
> i hope to see some of you there :)
> sharon... the brit abroad.
>
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i have a feeling the pride march will be on sunday.. and the dyke march
will be saturday, at 6.00, i think, being lead by a drum corps.. saturday
and sunday will be filled with all the entertainment your heart desires..
and so much gay paraphrenalia you'll be seein' rainbows for days :))

take care all

"...you and i are so savage, with a gift for damage; you and i go breaking
bones,
wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva

"...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose

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date:         thu, 13 jun 1996 16:58:40 -0500
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okay here you go.  these are the events taking place pride weekend in
atlanta.    june 28  starting at 11:30 a.m. pride proclamation-city hall
                      7:30 p.m. commitment ceremony -piedmont park
                      8:30 p.m. aids vigil- john howell park
            june 29-festival   8:00 a.m. 5k pride run-grant park
                               9:00a.m.  volleyball tournm.- piedmont park
                              10:00 -10:00 p.m. pride market and entert.-
                                                     piedmont park
                              6:00 p.m. dyke march-piedmont park entert.
                                                            stage
                             8:00 p.m. gay men's chorus-atl civic center
                            10:00 p.m.-til party at my place ;-)
             june 30-parade 10:00-10:00p.m. everything including
                          indigo girls at piedmont park.
                            (festival, market, vendors, speakers, etc.)
                           11:00 a.m.-parade gathering; civic center marta
                                                         station
                                         parade stops at noon.

just email me if you have anymore ??'s. hello from auburn university, al

later,
debbie

just a reminder of the deadline for the shirts.

your money must be in my hand by july 9th, 1996.  i will be moving to ecuador
and unable to accept orders after this date.  so please don't miss out, or
procrastinate...:) have your order in the mail by the 6th!  no later..the
sooner the better.  this is less than three weeks away!  if you are
overseas...send your order now!  just a reminder...i don't want anyone to
miss out.  if you have any questions, please contact me....ncrobino@aol.com
see the shirt at:
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

thanks for the support everyone!
take care
rob augino

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hi,
     in years gone by, the parties really start on thursday.  i usually
just pick up a copy of etc. at whatever local bar or bookstore i'm near
and it is the complete guide to pride happenings.
     as far as cheap motels around the park, i'll tell you that it is not
one of the cheaper areas of town to stay in.  there's a hampton inn in
midtown i think it's on 10th street.  there a few bed and breakfasts in
midtown and that area.  you can get around atlanta via the marta bus and
train services.  it's not expensive to ride and get you anywhere in the
downtown vicinity.
     i know that there should be a web page out there for pride.  try my
friend ian cabell's home page.  he has lynx to every gay and lesbian page
out there one way or another.  i don't know the address off hand.  but
with any search engine you should be able to find it (ie yahoo!,
webcrawler).  that's about all the info i know of.  sorry i couldn't be
of more help.

bye,
allison

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subject:      kirsten  chevalier and greg flamer...read! (nigc)

sorry to post to the list...but.

kirsten and greg,

you guys both ordered shirts but didn't specify what size... :) please let
me know, otherwise i will assume xl.
thanks
rob

hello hello!

just a quick reminder...when you are ordering, be sure to include what size
shirt you would like. this is important. if you send the 14.50 amount, you
could want l or xl..if you don't specify, i will assume xl since it is the
most popular :)
thanks everyone!
take care
rob

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hello all!

i've decided, against my better judgement perhaps, to reply to jude's
fervent requests for chapel hill booters.  however, i have no, absolutely
*no* information about the tape.  i don't know what's on it, i don't know
what date, i know nothing, and am fervently waiting for some kind soul
who saved that info to forward it to me.  (if you are that kind soul,
please send it to chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu.)

i will respond to the first 15 people from whom i receive e-mail with the
subject heading "chris-chapel hill" requesting a copy.  i will send you
my address and you will send me a 90 minute tape of either of the
following kinds:  tdk sa or maxell xlii.  maxells are prefered.  if i
receive lower quality tapes i will a) be bothered because i'm making most
of these tapes now, and b) send you back a bootleg on a lower quality
tape and you know how i hate that :-)!  you will also send me a sase with
correct postage (three regular stamps in us) or postage coupons from uk
and canada and germany and etc.

i would like to receive all the tapes by july 4, since i am moving soon.
also, i can't be having this project last forever since i am a very busy
gal. looking forward to many hours of happy dubbing!

chris ii

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subject:      camcorders @atlanta pride?

well you *know* they are going to allow them, or at least not be too bitchy
about them, sooo...for some ne dude who hasnt seen any vld video (tho it
does look like wendy bucklew may be playing while i am in ga !!!!) and of
course who knows, maybe elton john will do mona lisa's with the ig's again
... (anyone have it from the first time??? i guess it was done at a pride
fest possibly before 92.)
mike r.

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subject:      michelle malone solo
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got this in my email, thought y'all might be interested..

take care :)

>from: sunspeak@aol.com

>
>                    michelle malone solo dates
>
>                 confirmed dates as of 6/12/96
>
>
>june 14   city stage*    birmingham, al
>june 15   music farm    charleston,sc
>june 18   high hat    athens, ga
>june 28   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
>june 30   gay pride    atlanta, ga
>july 6   moon room    charlotte, nc
>july 19   red lion pub*   augusta, ga
>july 25   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
>july 27   grey eagle    ashville, nc
>aug 11   newport fok festival**  newport, ri
>aug 15   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
>aug 31   bumbershoot*   seattle, wa
>
>
>* dates with band de soleil
>**performing with the indigo girls
>
>
>
>

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bones,
wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva

"...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose

______________________________________________________________________________
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http://www.mindspring.com/~water.rose.html

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subject:      pride and candler 6-8
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              processor" at jun 13, 96 03:29:40 pm

hey all,
i'll be at pride too and wouldn't mind meeting a bunch of you up by the
stage...oriental chic with short hair, can't miss me.

also, anyone else catch a+e at the candler music and art fest? what a
great little festival. not too big, not too sma, just right. plus ig
played. always makes my day..

sharon

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hello everyone! (taking delurk hat off)

i have been lurking on the list since march, and have really enjoyed
reading all the posts -- thanks to everyone here for a great list.

my fiance and i will be in atlanta on the 30 for the pride festival -- we
have planned our vacation around it, and are looking forward to attending.

i think it would be great to meet some fellow listees -- perhaps someone
familiar with the park could suggest a good place to gather together.

hope to see some of you there :).

peace -- michelle (putting delurk hat back on. . . to remain until my
lesson plans for fall are finished -- hopefully soon. . .)

this list has been most generous with sharing their time. i have been the
lucky recipient of several boots and would be willing to make 15 copies of
the chapel hill boot.

contact me by the end of saturday, june 15.

if the number reaches 15 before then, i will let people know. so, the first
fifteen.

send to marianash@aol.com.

it is a great collection and i have enjoyed it. so, i am happy to share it
with those that are interested.

thanx
marian

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subject:      in need of a place to crash...(athens, ga)

hello all..
i've truly enjoyed this list; having "listened" in for the past week or so!
i thought i'd put this out for any and all who are willing...
i'm a 31yo. female firefighter/soccer player/indigo girls super fan from
tacoma, wa. my fellow firefighter pal (his name is dick--very cool guy) and
i have a plane ride, a rental car, and tickets to olympic women's soccer
held in athens, ga. one small detail remains...a place to lay our heads! we
wondered if anyone in the athens area would be able to help us out or have
any ideas...
we checked hotels which were all booked...
we will be arriving the evening of july 27th and fly out on august 2nd.
we cook, we'll bring tfd (tacoma fire dept) t-shirts!! i even got to meet
amy and emily twice so far in my lifetime and have the pictures to prove it!!!
any help would be hugely appreciated!! thanks a million!
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
sssssssstacy waterworth

"you never see big dogs wearing sweaters. my neighhbor's dog has a sweater,
but he wears it wrapped around his shoulders...it looks pretty with his eyes."
---ellen degeneres

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subject:      re: michelle malone solo

green with envy

you folks dont know you're alive

whilst downunder we can only but enjoy a pale imitation on cd.

sue

> got this in my email, thought y'all might be interested..
>
> take care :)
>
> >from: sunspeak@aol.com
>
> >
> >                    michelle malone solo dates
> >
> >                 confirmed dates as of 6/12/96
> >
> >
> >june 14   city stage*    birmingham, al
> >june 15   music farm    charleston,sc
> >june 18   high hat    athens, ga
> >june 28   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
> >june 30   gay pride    atlanta, ga
> >july 6   moon room    charlotte, nc
> >july 19   red lion pub*   augusta, ga
> >july 25   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
> >july 27   grey eagle    ashville, nc
> >aug 11   newport fok festival**  newport, ri
> >aug 15   eddie's attic    atlanta, ga
> >aug 31   bumbershoot*   seattle, wa
> >
> >
> >* dates with band de soleil
> >**performing with the indigo girls
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> "...you and i are so savage, with a gift for damage; you and i go breaking
> bones,
> wrecking all the happy homes..." -viva la diva
>
> "...i have danced in women's arms... my sweetest kiss-woman warm..."-radar rose
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>          diviant rosehip                             gay but not narrow
>                 http://www.mindspring.com/~water.rose.html
>
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from:         indigo@bbs.cowland.com
subject:      newport folk fest -- request for info

hi folks! sorry to bug y'all with this, but does anyone have any info
about who's playing when during the fest, or a number i can call to get
that info? the ticketmaster # would be greatly apreciated also.
thanks!

tuesday's child

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