lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-06e


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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 00:26:50 -0400
reply-to:     danaw1208@aol.com
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subject:      more tmf (kind of long)

hi to everyone out there!!!

having read all the great comments and discussion the past few
days - i was inspired to put my mind to more interpretation of tmf.

so, the first thing i did was watch the video from watershed a
few times and a few things became clear to me that wasn't at
all clear before.  first, what i thought before was just mish mash -
or unintelligible pieces of graphics...was really just distorted
black and white images of a & e on stage playing or
likewise pitctures of audience crowds staring and reaching
out for a & e on stage. ...and then i noticed that the backdrop of
one side of the wall has on sillouhettes of figures with outstrectched
arms reaching for a & e.

ok, so then i started thinking about how a introduces the song-
saying it was about everything changes...and then after she says
that the video cuts to a very old clip of a & e at the little 5 points
community pub for the strange fire album party (or whatever) and
the graphic tells of how amy unsuccessfully tried to buy the pub
before it was torn down or whatever.

and all this made me think that the song is really about how the music
scene has changed and about all the conflict and ambivalent feelings
that must come along with fame and commercial success.
i think this is broad enough to include all the earlier discussion -
like being about sex/ disappointing family....

so here's how the words fit into all of this...

"waking from a dream"  - as an unknown assumably the goal (dream)
                                     is to become known - shake off the dust
of your
                                     hometown from your feet -make it big...
                                     but now - a has attained the deam, and
now
                                     sees what it is all really like.

"neighborhood is green"   - now green to me connotes life, newness, fresh &
                                       being away from home (touring) makes
old
                                       familiar neighborhood feel alive
again.

"all i've missed..."            - again a feeling of being disconnected from
home

"are wedding deaths & fear" -   ok isolation again from loved ones- family

"all i've heard is in vain"   - again more isolation from not living life at
home.
(like h20 on stain)           maybe a has been kept informed of happenings
                                      but because is not able to participate
in - hearing the
                                      current events of loved ones and family
is just too
                                      frustrating.

**************ok change in tone - more cynical - ****************************

"touch me i'm so beautiful...."   -   as if a says, here i am on stage- i
                                                  asked for it and i got-
here i am i'm famous.
                                                  y'all love me- so eat me
up- touch me-
                                                  touch my head - it's not
worth it if you don't...
                                                  (b & w sillouhettes, hands
outstretched
                                                    toward a & e)

"...are you hiding, i am hiding" -  (obvious- i got to hide my lover, my
family, me)

"cypress moon...
...let your waters let me drown"   -   a has given up - totally open - finds
shelter
                                                     with lover- all masks
gone "bald"

"are your crying, i am crying"         -  more pain from how life has
changed.


now here - with jump, jump, jump...watch me let you down" part.
i read this as both addressing the audience and the family/lover.

first, the audience is going to be sad, distanced from the fame...
a knows the audience wants more- and is not able to give
more (the image from jcs where the crowd grabs at a as jesus
asking for healing really sticks in my mind at this point in time).
(also this is also the feeling i have taken home with me after the
last ig show i went to...too big, too many people...they even had an
elvis impersonator sing on the encores...really disappointing)

second, the lover- both a & lover want more.  want to be together,
share ordinary life of just being home and being together...so there's
disappointment inherent in the present situation.  i.e. singing, being
famous, and being in committed relationship.  can't have it both ways.

"trying to hold rain like a river"  -  and here's the really bitter pill...
                                                nothing can be done to make
situation
                                                better.  hiding before didn't
stop the crying
                                                all efforts slip through
hands like running
                                                water.  love or career ,
language or kiss...

"everything getting bigger-
     better this won't last forever" -   consolation in knowing that there's
always
                                                   an ending somewhere -
successs will fade,
                                                   the tour will end,
retirement - who knows???


ok- if you've read this far....i am nearly done...just a couple more things
that
i really dig:

1. the black and white imagery especially a's shirt - b & w - metaphorically
clear - but the design is lots of interconnected squigglies---metaphorically
not so clear- emily's wearing black and white too.  all the concert footage
is black and white- except the guitars are yellow and red- colorful....
and nature - trees that contect is colorful.  a's clothes change to red and
yellow
after the electric change in tempo-  go crazy with the sexual stuff here----


2.  the mirrors in the video...mirrors - both give clear reflections of
life around it- but also can be deceptive.  the round mirror over a's right
shoulder
especially grabs me whenever it is in the screen.  also - emily's image early
in the video is a reflection.  emily's right handed - but reflection in
mirror
looks like she's playing lefthanded....this whole mirror/ reflection thing-
is real
concrete way of showing how something isn't all it's cracked up to be....

3.  how the words "wedding deaths" are put together...not
"weddings, deaths" as if they were separate events/happenings.
but how wedding could possibly modify deaths....i guess this whole (above)
interpretation could solely go to love relationship - how once a relationship

solidifies in a marriage type situation is changes and it isn't what a
thought
it would be... ok- so i'm going to quit now---

hope i haven't been too annoying or long winded - but gave it a shot.
thoughts, comments???? thanks for reading!!!

take it easy - dana

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 02:28:39 -0400
reply-to:     lbrown9787@aol.com
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from:         lbrown9787@aol.com
subject:      tmf...more thoughts

ok...we know amy shaved her head and was bald in june.

i read somewhere that the "all skate now reverse" was in honor of someone who
worked on the album with them who used to say that a lot.

i think the song is mostly about sex.

i adore this song.

i confess, i've had great...um...times, while listening to it, though not on
roller blades. but i will try anything once.

huge grin

love

larissa

p.s. if i owe you a tape, i swear that i have not forgotten. i suck. remind
me. etc. you've heard it before.

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 05:05:24 -0500
reply-to:     claro casey <claro@m2.monsterbit.com>
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from:         claro casey <claro@m2.monsterbit.com>
subject:      re: daem recs question
x-to:         herbert huels <73771.760@compuserve.com>
in-reply-to:  <960625173154_73771.760_fhc46-2@compuserve.com>

hello herbert and everyone else.

yes, daemon records does exist....in reality,
in the land of p.o. boxes, and on the internet! you can see the daemon
records www site at http://monsterbit.com/daemon/ . there are some really
great things to try in the 'new releases' section....

and keep your eyes out for the august release of "honor"...a compilation
cd for the honor the earth campaign (which can also be found at
monsterbit...www.honorearth.com) produced by amy and released by daemon.

there are a lot of really important issues to be addressed concerning the
survival of the sustainable native communities. we hope that the web site
will serve as an educational resource for anyone and everyone.

we will be launching phase 2 of the hte campaign site in conjunction
with the august steet release of honor. some really wonderful artists (matthew
sweet, bonnie raitt, indigo girls, bruce cockburn...just to name a few)
contributed their songs to this record and a whole slew of people and
organizations (indigenous environmental fund, indigenous women's network,
seventh generation fund, daemon records and direct expressions) are
working their tails off trying to shed some light on what's happening. if
you care to be a part, please help spread the word and show your support.

so, now that i've gone off on that diatribe i hope i addressed your
question...yes, daemon records exists :) if you would like to be kept
abreast of what's happening with daemon and honor the earth you can get the
daemon newsletter by sending a message to:
'majordomo@monsterbit.com' with 'subscribe daemonrecs-info'
in the body of the message.

hope that helps.

mellie price
monsterbit media

p.s. for that matter, stay in touch with
everything monsterbit media is doing by subscribing to our monthly,
chunk. email 'majordomo@monsterbit.com' with 'subscribe info' in the body.

on tue, 25 jun 1996, herbert huels wrote:

> hey all!
> does anybody know if daemon records exists, or is it only found in the land of
> the p.o. boxes??
> im assuming it does, but do not know where or if you can go there and buy
> 'stuff'...
>
> also...(here i go w/ millions o questions from my inquisitive mind..)
> 1. how many times have a and e jinxed (sp?) each other saying 'thank you' after
> a song has ended  :)
> 2.i know this has been asked/discussed, but i missed it :what does amy say on
> the red light boot right before cooper does 'in the afternoon', and someone says
> "are you talking out of your butt'?  :)
> im drawing a blank on the other questions i had, so you're off the hook for now
> (thanx for listening...)
> -moe
>
> ps. i just thought of one: how do you make a 'sig' file???
>
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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 08:39:31 est
reply-to:     paul_j._sgroi_at_01cld__lkst@ccmail.c-tec.com
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi_at_01cld__lkst@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      summer tour...

     hi! my wife and i want to get away for a weekend without the child, so
            i thought maybe we could stay somewhere and catch ig in
            concert.
            i know this has been posted, but, i wasn't paying      attention
            before--can someone, please, send me an ig summer     tour
            scehdule.  i live in the northeast, so i'd interested in
            something close-by. the only time i saw them was at bally's
            grand in atlantic city--warming-up for neil young--god, i
            wish i had a copy of both the neil young, and ig performances
            that night!


                                                anyway-have a nice weekend!

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 08:39:50 -0500
reply-to:     fauzia khan <f_khan@auxcom.aux.umass.edu>
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from:         fauzia khan <f_khan@auxcom.aux.umass.edu>
organization: auxiliary service, umass amherst
subject:      kris mckay (some igc)

hey you all!

from a regular lurker - a few days ago someone recommended kris mckay
from austin - and i wanted to mention (in case no one's done this
yet) that a & e sang backup on a couple of her songs - "one moment to
another" (on which you can especially hear amy at the end) and "every
single solitary heart". i forget the name of the album but if you can
find it, it's definitely worth getting. i think i have the name at
home if anyone wants to email me privately for it.


fauzia

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 09:11:24 edt
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      final call: new orleans jazz fest tapes

hi all! this is the final call for anyone requesting a copy of the 5-4 and/or
5-2 new orleans jazz festival tape.

orders, which will begin to be filled this week, have been delayed due to a
small positionally challenged mention of one song on the setlist :) and has
since been corrected (thankyou mr. postman).  everything seems to be in place
for the dubbing to begin.  if you receive a copy of the 5-4 show with the
setlist showing the song chiapas bound on the b side, please contact me and
i'll send you a corrected copy.

if you have already contacted your dubber of choice and made arrangements to
send in your blank 90 min tape for each show and a sase with the correct
return postage (or coupons if you are located outside the u.s.) don't worry.
your orders are being taken care of.  if you have placed an order with a
dubber who no longer appears on this list of dubbers, your dubber has just
retired due to overplacement but will still fill your orders.

these tapes are yours for free, i.e., no cost, as in freebie.  we just don't
want to support your musical tastes, so please pay your way and send enough
postage to cover the return of the package.

what these are:

the 5-2 show has been made available curtesy of chris antolini and the 5-4
show was dubbed in dat at the concert by a friend in ca. it's a beautiful
tape and i know y'all will *enjoy* it :)

the setlists are:

5-2 show                                     5-4 show

galileo                                      thin line
reunion                                      the wood song
southland in the springtime                  this train (revised)
power of two                                 power of two
this train (revised)                         don't give that girl
the wood song                                     a gun
don't give that girl a gun                   least complicated
crazy game                                   nashville
tried to be true                             get out the map
closer to fine                               chiapas bound

genecide                                     closer to fine
chiapas bound                                 shame on you
three hits                                   crazy game
least complicated                            tried to be true
thin line                                    galileo
shame on you                                 don't think twice
finlandia                                         w/ j. baez
                                             wild horses w/
                                                   m. malone (her best ever!)
                                             finlandia w/ j. baez

the dubbers are:

england - seffy@epic.co.uk (seffy)
canada  - andrews@cs.concordia.ca (sarah)
anywhere else outside the u.s. - hunterj1@aol.com  (jude)
australia -sherlyn@fl.net.au (sherlyn)
aries - mediamongr@aol.com (lorrie)
taurus - smidge@ix.netcom.com (kelly)
gemini - lmayne@u.washington.edu (lisa)
cancer - zkaa76a@prodigy.com (donna)
leo - kram21@aol.com (kelly)
virgo - mjg333@aol.com (marcy)
libra - kmcleroy@umich.edu (karra)
scorpio - sanawike1@aol.com (sarah)
sagittarius - suzanne_dunne@baylor.edu  (suzanne) (the baylor.edu must be
                                                        lower case)
capricorn - sharney@smith.smith.edu (sue)
aquarius - janinsdale@aol.com (jan)
pices - astaples@email.unc.edu (amy)

what to do:

send e-mail to the dubber representing your birthmonth and ask for their
address so you can send your self-addressed, self-stamped padded envelope
(you can get these at the post office) containing two 90 minute blank
cassettes (if you want both shows).  address the padded envelope to yourself
and put it into a larger envelope.  whatever the cost is to mail the package,
put that same amount in stamps on the padded envelope, seal up the larger
envelope and send it.


enjoy !

jude :)

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 08:53:25 -0500
reply-to:     dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
subject:      re: tmf, some whining, and a computer question

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from:   karey weisman eals[smtp:karey@u.washington.edu]
sent:   thursday, june 27, 1996 7:58 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        tmf, some whining, and a computer question

>earlier today i was reading the great tmf discussion (especially liked
>dan's and kevin's posts), and i was so happy about how wonderful y'all
>are that i started to run to class (also i was late).  and then i did a
>spectacular belly-flop, complete with heavy backpack.

      karey,

       i think perhaps you are taking the line "if i stumble, i will stumble, if i fall i will fall" just a bit too literally!

peace,

dan

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date:         fri, 28 jun 1996 09:07:37 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
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subject:      1995:  by amy ray

1995 -- huh! magazine

article for huh! magazine

i feel like a snake that just crawled out of it's skin. i've been on a month
long tour called "honor the earth" in support of front line native groups
working for the defense of homelands and ecosystems, the protection of
sacred sites, and the building of sustainable communities. the honor the
earth tour was such a riveting experience and was so successful that we are
planning to make it a part of every indigo girls touring season. we played
15 cities, 4 reservations and one native alaskan community. we participated
in a public hearing and 7 press conferences. when it was over, we had raised
over 300 thousand dollars, passed out 40 thousand information booklets and
supplied over 100 thousand political action post cards. the tour was
sponsored by the indigenous women's network and the seventh generation fund.
the iwn is a network of more than 400 grassroots activists and
organizations. the seventh generation fund is a native controlled private
foundation that supports native american environmental, social justice and
cultural organizations. our political guru for the tour was winona laduke.
winona sits on the board of greenpeace, is co-chair of the indigenous
women's network and is the founder of the white earth land recovery project.
she resides on the white earth reservation in northern minnesota. winona was
a constant source of inspiration and energy, with her nightly opening
speeches and her patience in fielding our persistent questions. our promoter
and tour coordinator, mark tilsen, proved to be our resident expert on
indian policy. mark and his family have a long history of indian activism.
he spent his formative
years on the pine ridge reservation (lakota territory) in south dakota and
was at the 1973 stand-off at wounded knee, an event which inspired mark and
his comrades to start kili radio - voice of the lakota nation - one of the
largest native run radio stations in the country. his company, direct
expressions, is recently responsible for raising funds to build the first
public library on the pine ridge reservation. the other native activists in
our entourage were just as dedicated and inspiring. as the tour progressed,
with each new meeting of a tribal member or an activist, my spiritual
community grew, until i felt my soul stretched across the nations like the
skin on a drum - my heart pounding out - i'd been saved!

native environmental activism demands vulnerability, the spiritual
connections are the root. this is what defines the movement and this is what
makes it a success. the traditional indigenous people of an area are
naturally bonded with their area. they see the elements of an ecosystem as
organs of a living body. their world is an animate world. harmony rather
than dominance defines their basic value system and ecological philosophy.
as colonists, we have been taught to view land in terms of frontiers filled
with unlimited resources to exploit. the corporate mind calls a forest
"timber" and ignores the life sustained by that forest. traditional
indigenous people
depend on the land for food, shelter and their cultural and religious
practices. they have a vested interest in maintaining the health of their
ecosystem because they are a part of it. as a non-indian, i believe we can
learn from the native approach to environmentalism.

i have a notebook full of information on native environmental issues, it's
divided by subject matter, but really the whole book could be titled
"environmental racism". i wish i could give a copy to everyone i meet.
federal governments along with major corporations are mining, clear cutting
and dumping toxic waste all over indian land.
can you imagine someone proposing a nuclear waste dump adjacent to your
residence - you'll be the first one writing letters...heh? get this - the
lubicon cree of northern alberta, canada, are a small nation (500 people)
who have lived off the land north of the peace river for thousands of years.
oil was discovered there in the 1950's and 400 wells have been drilled in
the last two decades. the affects on their traditional subsistence based
lifestyle has been devastating. while in 1980 5% of the lubicon people were
on welfare, just 4 years later 90% required welfare. it gets worse... in
1988 the alberta government sold 12,000 square miles of timber cutting
rights to daishowa manufacturing co, who built a pulp and paper mill at
peace river.  now, the lubicon crees are faced with the construction of a
sour gas plant by unocal adjacent to and upwind of the lubicon village. all
this destruction to a nation of 500 people who never signed a treaty with
the candian government and under canadian and international law should still
retain control of their ancestral land.

it's hard enough to battle racism from corporations and federal governments,
but native environmentalists also experience racism from mainstream
non-indian environmental groups. i learned about this absurdity at a press
conference with native action in bozeman, mt. one of native action's
campaigns is working to preserve the sweet grass hills, a sacred site of the
northern great plains tribe, from gold mining.  as an idealist, i thought
all environmentalists had the same basic goals and interests.  no way! it is
rare for mainstream environmental groups to focus on indigenous
environmental concerns much less have any indigenous people on their boards.
most of these groups are out saving the earth so we can hike around, go
mountain biking, have a picnic or show our kids what a moose looks like; as
opposed to the native communities that depend on the land for their survival
and spiritual practices. these mainstream groups don't even consider
protecting sacred sites because then we
couldn't use them for our recreation. also, indian sovereignty is a point of
conflict because mainstream environmental groups want to retain control and
they don't respect the fact that indians know how to take care of the land
they've lived on for thousands of years. for example - while visiting the
white earth reservation in northern minnesota, i learned that the white
earth land recovery project is currently engaged in a struggle to retain
tribal management of the tamarack national wildlife refuge. this land
originally belonged to the tribe, but is now controlled by the national fish
and wildlife commission. the sierra club gave a definite no to supporting tribal
management of the refuge, but who better to manage the land than the people
who subsist on it? there are some enlightened mainstream groups such as
greenpeace.  greenpeace has indigenous board members and is on the forefront
of many native environmental issues.

it's unbelievable what the federal government has done to the indians. first
we come in like gangsters, rude and violent, take what we want (to hell with
who we hurt), make a bunch of treaties then break every one of them. and
then, because we are being lazy and close-minded, we impose an easily
exploitable form of government and
economic system on all the tribes - not taking into account diversity in
language,  culture or leadership. we can't deal with traditional native
leadership and culture - it's too spiritual, too subjective, it makes us
feel too vulnerable. so, we relocate and reconfigure a culture that, if left
alone could help us save ourselves from ultimate destruction. let's look at
an example of how our government's policies affect the indians. in alaska,
rather than create reservations, the federal government decided to impose a
system called ancsa (alaskan native claims settlement act) which would put
into place "native owned" corporations who would handle the land and
resources of the community. this system would encourage "modernization and
economic development" rather than traditional subsistence based lifestyles.
native alaskans were given one billion dollars and 44 million acres, about
1/10 of the state, to handle through these corporations. keep in mind that
the us never _legally_ owned
alaskan land, so they actually stole that other 90%. one such corporation,
the eyak corporation, has a board of directors made up of only 10% eyak
natives. so decisions made about the native eyak community are made by
mostly non-eyaks and a lot of people who don't even live in the area. how
much difference does that make?
first the eyak rain forest gets pummeled by the exxon valdez oil spill and
then the corporation wants to sell their timber rights and clear cut the
land. i stood in a circle of 15 people on a boat in prince william sound
praying as logs were ripped out of the earth, wondering where are 300 eyak
natives gonna go? what if i only had 300
people left in my tribe, and someone was _giving_ away my lifeline...? if
all the responsibility seems to fall before your time... remember who you
voted for in the last few elections. did they support nafta or gatt? now,
look into what those agreements really mean to indigenous people - it's not
a pretty sight.

so, where's the hope you ask. actually, there is hope. much of what the
grassroots native environmental groups do is a success. what they lack in
operating budgets, they make up for with solid and courageous political
strategies and a lot of commitment. out of 100 proposed nuclear sites in the
last few years, 98 have been defeated. on the hopi reservation, solar power
is being installed in many hopi dwellings by the native owned hope solar
foundation. the lakota people (second poorest country in the nation, with an
average annual income of $3,700) have stood up against the us government and
refused money for the sacred black hills. a treaty in 1868 guaranteed this
land to the lakota nation for "as long as the grass grows" and they intend
to keep it. when we gave a concert at jemez pueblo, the native american
youth empowerment group performed for us, and gave me hope for the future
leaders of the native peoples. as non-indians we can help by getting
involved and showing
support. make an effort to get to know different indian nations and their
cultures. because we have mythologised indians, it's hard not to feel a
barrier; i felt one myself until i started asking questions. so go out and
get to know your neighbors. vote your conscience, write letters, be an
informed consumer, subscribe to enlightened environmental publications, surf
the net, be a world citizen. and the next time you turn on your lights,
remember that someone's place of worship or food gathering area might have
been bulldozed for that electricity. don't let the guilt hold you down, let
the knowledge empower you.

megwitch (thanks)

amy ray

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subject:      nigc -- janis ian

just wanted to tell anyone that may live in or near albany, ny, that
janis will be playing a free concert in washington park, albany on july
8th at 7pm.
see ya there!

                                                       tuesday's child

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subject:      me in d.c. :)

hey, saw it today in the entertainment section of the post: tickets go on
sale at 10 am tomorrow for me at the pavilion at stone ridge on august 27 at
7:30 .

check out the web page at: www.stoneridgepav.com

jude :)

*don't* forget your sony!

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subject:      more tmf

just another quick thought on tmf.
i'm enjoying everyone's stabs at interpretations, but part of me has to wonder
if amy herself even truly understands all the images. i really do think it's
about sex, and because of that i think it's supposed to be kinda nonsensical
and wild. to back up this statement i'm gonna once again mention the viva la
diva song "when you're ready" (i can't believe i called it 'are you ready'
before, i was running short on brain cells that day.) seriously folks, go
listen to that song, and then listen to tmf. the two songs are (imho)
definitely related, and there ain't _no_one_ here who can doubt for an instant
that when you're ready is about sex.

and one more thought on the "bald in june" bit. i haven't read everyone's post
so i don't know if this has been cleared up or not, but amy really was bald in
june in '93 i think. she shaved her head. no, really, she did. she sometimes
sings it, "i was bald in june" because, well, she was. so there really is a
hidden grain of seriousness in my "hair post." :) :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...


lorinda wright            "...and we walk in the world of safe people
lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
lehigh university                                - dar williams
bethlehem, pa

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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subject:      the indigo girls & olivia newton john...no really!!

i was just listening to the soundtrack from "two of a kind" (remember? olivia
& travolta...) & really listening to the words in the song "twist of
fate".... it reminds me of "galileo"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

who would've thunk it???

:)
rick

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subject:      nigc - happy pride wkd!!!!

happy gay pride weekend to all of my compadres on the ig list!!!

peace, love + indigo,
rahadyan

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subject:      ig laserdiscs ?

   i've seen a number of vhs videos of ig but are they available on
   laserdisc as well?

mike in seattle.

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subject:      (nigc) michelle malone...tonight! =)

hello! =)
      i just wanted to remind all of you that i am going to get to see my
goddess this evening... =)  i know that deb is going to be there.  anyone
else?  i'll be the one wearing some sort of sesame street tee shirt and jeans
with an ernie backpack and a whole helluva lot of hair... if you see me come
up and say hi because i'd love to meet you all! =)  anyhow, gotta run!
peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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subject:      read!  info on my absence and orders in as of 6/28/96
x-to:         indigo@clark.net, lwarren531@aol.com, scady@umich.edu,
              poohgrl816@aol.com, aneeza@cse.fau.edu

hello all!  a quick note....i will be out of town this weekend..and then from
the 3rd through  the 7th.  which means...there will be an updated orders
received list posted on the 7th.  look at it!  make sure your order is
there...because after that ...only two days will remain to get an order in.
also....do not send me foreign currency!  no canadian $.
i thought i made this clear....i have no means of exchanging it without
paying a $15 flat rate.  so unless you want to pay like $30 for a
shirt....please get us dollars.
thanks
rob

in as of 6/28/96

deadline is july 9th!  no exceptions can be made, so please hurry!

thanks everyone!

amy mednick 1 xxl
jeni saulino 1 xl
laura rice 1 xl
steven reynolds 1 xl
kirsten chevalier 1 xl
greg flamer 1 xl
lisa savu 1 xl
gwen drueger 1 l
randy rohrer 2 xxl
brian harvey 1 xl
camille kearl 2 xxl 1xl
connie tsuchiya 1 l
joan ferguson 1 xl
kristina - 1 xxl
derek moulaison 1 xl
diane krause 1 xl
craig haskins 1 xl 1 xxl
jen holt 1 xl
sharon james 1 xl
whit kuhn 1 xl
lisa winters 1 l
daniel tsang 1 l
sherlyn koo 1 l
sandy robinette 1 xl
sarah street 1 xl
trant batey 1 xl
rob augino 1 xl
maren mitchell 1 xl
dana carlson 1 xl
deb hanrahan 1 xl 1 xxl
sunny bueck 1 xl
marilyn macvey 1 xl
r.sefton smith 1 xxl
sheri yamada 1 xl 1 xxl
stacy sheperson 1 xl
corinne simpson 1 xl
cyndi johnson 1 xl 2 xxl
pooh 1 xxl
derek duncan 1 xl
gwen keyt 1 xl
rose culbreth 1 xxl
mary kushman 1 xl
rena shear 1 xl
howard barlow 2 xl
deb o'donoghue 2 l
ann labeck 1 xxl
donna schwartz 1 l
chris becker 2 xl
stacy waterworth 1 xl
deanna newcomb 2 xl
kat kohara 1 xl
chris antolini 1 xl
tiffany hein 2 xl
karen robinson 1 xxl
julie goldman 1 xl
cynthia crecca 1 l
karen harper 1 l
rebecca mctail 1 xl (rebecca, get in touch with me.)
stephanie rieder 1 xxl?  (get in touch with me regarding $)
anna hidalgo 1 l
abigail lank 1 l 1xl
rachel rabaey 1 xl
mandy warren 1 xl
karey eals 1 xl
please hurry!  get your orders in!  the absolute deadline
is the 9th of july!
thanks everyone for your support!
take care
rob
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subject:      stephanie rieder contact me! nigc

steph,

your order is so very not......anyway.  i have no means of changing canadian
$ here in wilmington.  the bank will do it, but they charge a flat rate of
$10....which leaves about $8 for your order.  i need american dough.

also, you said you wanted 1x x-large....

so does that mean xxl?
thanks
rob

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subject:      re: ig laserdiscs ?
x-to:         madin@u.washington.edu

hi...i'm new here but yes i have a copy of live at the uptown lodge on lazer
disc.

michelle

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subject:      slow land of canaan

hi everybody : )

i was wondering -- which recording has the slow land of canaan?  is it the
'86 "indigo girls"?

is it really that much slower than the strange fire version?

if anybody has this recorded on tape please lemme know, maybe we can trade.
or is it really rare?  i have no idea.  just wanna hear that song (if it's
significantly different.)

wunderin,
lorie

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subject:      ig live boots wanted

ok...we all want something...i just thought i'd put my little request out
there and ask if anyone has boots of shows that i have been to - mostly in
and near cincinnati.

i'm especially interested in hearing the april 4, 1989 show at riverfront
coliseum in cinti when they opened for rem.  b/c i am catching up with
digests and just read that epic press release for rop...it says ctf went gold
in sept. '89 and hit the billboard hot 100 in july '89.  so i wonder what
they sounded like before they knew they had a hit on their hands.  cuz i mean
i saw 'em open for rem that night and went and bought their record (based on
secure yourself mostly).  but the place was so big i could hardly hear them
(or see 'em -- specks, dontcha know).

so, if anybody could indulge me, i bet i've got some good stuff send you in
return.  looking for:

4/4/89 @ riverfront coliseum in cincinnati (w/rem)
1991 @ bogarts in cinti (w/ejs)
1992 @ cinti zoo w/matthew sweet & gerard mchugh)
1993 @ bogarts in cinti (w/ mm)
7/10/94 @ fraze pavilion, dayton oh (w/caroline aiken)
4/8/94 @ market square arena, indianapolis, in (w/ferron)
4/12/95 @ athens, ohio [amy's 31st birthday -- big ol' soc] (w/ferron)


thanks y'all,

(ok, ok, *that* was uncalled for!!!)

http://home.aol.com/mediamongr (severely un-updated and as if you care)

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organization: international english exchange
subject:      nigc: amy for chapel hill boot trade

sorry to take up bandwidth!  lost an address while changing from aol to new internet
address.

amy --- trading 3 tapes for 3 tapes including chapel hill boot. i lost your address. please
e-mail again-sorry, sorry, sorry. i have your boots ready to mail, but ... :(.

thanks
marian
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      igc!!!!  bumbershoot volunteer opportunity

someone said they'd volunteered at some festival and therefore got into
whatever act they wanted.  here's an ad from this week's the stranger:

seeking public volunteers for bumbershoot.  looking for experienced
individuals with a good sense of: humor, direction, the festival, and the
desire to assist the public.  contact amy at 281-7788 ext. 231

have at it!
love,
karey

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subject:      nigc swamp mama johnson

here's the schedule i mentioned last week.  swamp mama johnson is a
bellingham-based all-women blues band (singer, guitar, bass, sax, drums).
they're great live, very danceable.

*this sunday, at the seattle pride freedom rally in volunteer park, at
4:15.  i'll be there! :)
these dates are all in july:
*5th, taste of tacoma, 1-1:40pm, point defiance park
*5th, the royal, 10pm
*6th, milltown blues festival, 4:30-5:20pm, naval station, everett, wa
206-259-8655
*6th, rexville grange, 9pm, all ages show! off summers road between
conway and laconner
*7th, conway tavern, 6:30pm
*10th, crows nest, whidbey island race week, 6pm, oak harbor marina, oak
harbor, wa
*12th, harrison festival, 9:30-10i:15pm harrison hall, harrison hot
springs, bc 604-796-3664
*13th, harrison festival, 3-3:45pm festival stage
*14th, kla ha ya days, noon-2pm, harvey airfield, snohomish, wa
*18th, mt. tabor theater & pub, 9:30pm, 4811 se hawthorne, portland, or
503-238-1646
*19th, salem art fair & festival, 4-4:45pm, opal v. young stage, bush
park, salem, or 503-561-2228
*20th, whistler roots festival, 5-5:45pm, whistler village, 8-8:45pm
whistler mountain, whistler, bc, 604-932-3928
*21st, whistler roots festival, 12-12:45pm whistler village
*21st, bite of seattle, 7:20-8pm mural stage, seattle center, seattle, wa
*24th, blue dolphin, 9pm
*26th, railway club, 10pm, 579 dunsmuir, vancouver, bc 604-681-1625
*27th, ballard seafood festival, 4:45-5:45pm, across from bell tower on
ballard avenue, seattle, wa
*27th, the backstage, with china rose, 9:30pm, 2208 nw market st., seattle
*28th, conway tavern, 6:30pm

i live in seattle, but can travel a little.  if any of these look
interesting, let me know & we can go together.
love,
karey

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subject:      hey!!! irc right now!!!

we're trying to chat on irc.wfire.net in #indigo-girls but no one's
around!!!  come!! talk!!!  enjoy!! i'll bring chips???

tracy
~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^~^~^~^~^^~ (homesick for mountains)
"the dreams came in like needy children
          tugging at my sleeve....
i said i have no way of feeding you
           so leave...."
        --- emily saliers "prince of darkness"

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from:         lorie driscoll <mediamongr@aol.com>
subject:      amy's bald head

<grin>

um...well...*i* wanna see a picture, how about the rest of you?  anybody got
one?

lorie

http://home.aol.com/mediamongr
(sorta kinda vaguely interesting)

ps  if anybody has a gif, i could promise to put it on my web page for a
minimum period of time to everybody could see it.  unless somebody else wants
to.  heheheheheh


in a message dated 96-06-29 00:04:29 edt, you write:

>and one more thought on the "bald in june" bit. i haven't read everyone's
>post
>so i don't know if this has been cleared up or not, but amy really was bald
>in
>june in '93 i think. she shaved her head. no, really, she did. she sometimes
>sings it, "i was bald in june" because, well, she was. so there really is a
>hidden grain of seriousness in my "hair post." :) :)

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subject:      chris talbot -- chapel hill -- thanks!!

sorry to send this to the list, but i lost your e-mail address.  got the
tape thursday and love it!  thanks so much!

                                               tuesday's child

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              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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subject:      a final tmf interpretation...

...before we move on to the infinitely-less-deep wood song:
i propose a radical new interpretation of tmf. we all know that amy and
cats have a major thing going on. consider sy. consider dmh. consider ptntf
. so, maybe it's pretty safe to assume that whenever we encounter a
particularly dense and obtuse amy-song, it's about...cats!
i propose the feline interpretation of tmf.

"i'm waking from a dream the neighborhood is green"
we all know that cats spend a large percentage of time sleeping, and that
cats dream. of course, lots of sleep implies lots of waking up.

"all the sounds i've missed all the years come down to wedding deaths and
fears"
if you spent 18 hours a day in the dream world, you'd miss plenty of sounds
too. as for weddings: have you ever seen a cat at a wedding? or a funeral?
or a scaredy cat (the popular idiom notwithstanding)?

"all i've heard has been in vain like water on a stain"
do cats ever listen to anything you tell them? hah! and "water on a stain"
is certainly a fitting analogy for a feline to use, especially if said
feline has not yet been neutered.

"touch me, i'm so beautiful, rub your hands across my head just like this"
all the cats *i* know think they're beautiful and luuuv having their heads
rubbed.

"come with me, it's not worth it if you don't/ are you hiding, i am hiding"
clearly an invitation to come and explore the cat's secret hiding places (
all the cats i know love to hide, too).

"cypress moon, bald in june, like the granite in a stream"
cats are nocturnal and spend plenty of time under the influence of the moon
. as for bald in june...that's prime flea season, isn't it? and granite,
too, is bald, so the poor fleabitten creature is clearly drawing an analogy
to her experience in the experience of smooth granite.

"come with me, it's not worth it if you don't/ are you crying, i am crying"
the repeated invitation reveals an initial unwillingness on the part of the
invited one, inducing sadness and crying in the cat (ever heard a cat cry?)

"swamp ophelia, i'm torn down, let your waters let me drown"
if you were a poor, bald, fleabitten cat, you'd want to drown too.

"jump jump jump so high watch me let you down"
cats can jump way high, and are known for letting their humans down.

"if i stumble i will stumble if i fall i will fall"
an articulation of the blase, zen-like feline world-view.

"i'm trying to hold it like rain in a river, everything is getting bigger"
ever tried to hold a cat who doesn't want to be held? worse than rain in a
river -- the scratch marks along your arms will just get bigger and bigger.

"better this won't last forever/ touch me fall"
the cat's final cry, realizing as she falls to her death that nothing lasts
forever.

this opens up a whole new school of ig interpretation. "hide
yourself for me, i will hide myself for you..." -- we've already observed
the feline fondness for hiding. "all the details of this war are just self
-infatuation" -- cats are notoriously self-infatuated. the feline ethos
even infiltrates emily-songs: "i better learn how to swim cuz the crossing
is chilly and wide" -- most cats don't know how to swim. yea, verily, i
cheer on an entirely new error^h^h^ha of ig interpretation from a feline
perspective.

--
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"kissing is the supreme achievement of the western world"--tom robbins
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from:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      gay in america series (nigc)

hi y'all,

the san francisco examiner just completed a really excellent seven-part
series on various aspects of the gay experience in america...  they've now
got most of it on the web, the address is:
http://www.sfgate.com/examiner/special/gia/
looks like they've got parts 1-6 up so far, the seventh, on gay/lesbian/bi
high school students, is featured in today's paper, and hopefully will be
up on the web soon as well.  the series is full of really great interviews
and essays, check it out.

and by the way, a couple upcoming shows of interest to any other bay area
type listies, both at the greek theater on the berkeley campus:  nanci
griffith and the chieftains july 28, and sarah mclachlan, with paula cole
and suzanne vega august 3rd!!!  i am so there!

peace

scot


scot ninnemann - scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu - http://tjwww.stanford.edu/scot
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
"whatever you do may seem insignificant, but it is most important that you
do it." -- gandhi    "'i'm so glad that you finally made it here,' 'you
thought nobody cared, but i did, i could tell,' and 'this is your year'
and 'it always starts here,' and oh, 'you're aging well.'" -- dar williams
"playing music is not really something you choose to do. if it's in you,
you have no choice." -- emily saliers   "all i gave was me." -- karl wallinger
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

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date:         sat, 29 jun 1996 14:13:09 -0700
reply-to:     andrade <andrade@az.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         andrade <andrade@az.com>
subject:      bumbershoot

i was reading old ani listserv digests and stumbled across some messages
about people waiting 4+ hours in line to see ani at bumbershoot. this was
last summer when she wasn't as popular (is she popular? i have no way of
really knowing if the highschool kid down the street knows who she is but
i do know she is displayed at cellophane square as a "hot seller").

anyway, i can't imagine what the wait will be to see a&e. grin

kristina

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the greek upon the stars                         http://www.az.com/~andrade

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date:         sat, 29 jun 1996 16:02:16 -0700
reply-to:     jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
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from:         jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
subject:      ani article (nigc)

i thought i'd post this for all you ani fans who were nice enough to suggest
her music to me. it's from musician magazine (august 1996).

ani difranco: the seductive tyranny of youth culture
        by ani difranco

        i was thinking the other day about this great pearl jam lyric on vs
- something about "protect your youth/like mohammed, it's the truth." for
me, that song sums up the attitude of our culture in general: we have no
respect for our elders. youth is everything. the longer you can stay young,
the better.
        that's one reason why i signed utah phillips as the first artist -
other than me - on my label [righteous babe]. he's not all that old, but
he's been to the mountain and he's seen the valley. so what do you do when
you're someone like utah - an anarchist, a wayfaring story teller - and you
don't even have a fucking pension?
        people like utah have a lot of useful information for the rest of us
and there's a maturity in their playing that can be very instructive. sure,
there's an understandable suspicion toward older people playing youth music,
when they're still out there "rebelling" and we know they have the house and
the family and the two cars. you'd expect music to change as the person does.
        but what i'm really interested in is musical impressions other than
just the youthful. while there's something wonderful and beautiful about the
energy of young musicians, the most profound musical decisions come with
experience, which is to choose not to play or sing something.
        there's also a certain arrogance with young folks, myself included,
like we're so special. when you get older you realize that you're not, and
that's an important lesson. we're not the only voice out there. it's
ridiculous to think that other people's expressions don't apply to us.
        you don't need to get on your knees and pray to youth pop culture.
if you do, there's so much you'll miss, from underground music to old folk
singers like utah phillips. there's a world beyond the 14-year-old ubermodel
of the month.

        __________________________________________________________________

please excuse any typos (i only use 2 fingers)! there were some italics, but
i didn't know how to do them on my mail program.  :(

hugs,
deb

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"feminism is the radical notion that women are people too."
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date:         sun, 30 jun 1996 10:07:23 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      note to anyone trading with me (nigc)

hi everyone,

this is just a note to kind of remind everyone i'm trading with that i'm
going away in just over a week.  which means that if you're planning
to take part in the tree for the red light or for the two nofj tapes, and
you haven't sent me your tapes yet, do it now.  or if we had any other
trades in the offing, send me a note quickly so we can finalise things.
i'm leaving on the 10th of july and i won't be back until the start of
september (assuming that i don't get axe-murdered somewhere along
the way, o'course. :)  and i'm going to be very busy packing etc in the
next week and a half...

anyway, consider yourselves warned.  you american folks might want
to think about finding suitable hiding places soon too... :)
take care all,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-   sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"hearts are worth the mending, though they heal up slowly;
   every beat hits soft and low.
comes a time when all the pain and hurt is ending,
   and your heart gets up to go..."   - patty larkin, 'i'm fine'
=-=-=-   [please note that i will be away from 10/7/96 until 1/9/96.]  -=-=-=

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from:         jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
subject:      absolutely positively nigc, just help!

i know this really has no place on this list, but i really need some help.
if you know anything about eudora, please read on. if not just trash this
now. :)

anyway, i'm upgrading my pc to one with more memory and a faster modem and
some other stuff. that's the good news! the bad news is, i don't want to
lose my list letters that i've saved. there are sooooooooooooooooooo many.
plus all my other mail.  does anyone out there have eudora and have a clue
how i go about moving this stuff from one pc to the other? i still have the
disk for eudora, so it's only the saved stuff i'm worried about.

sorry to take up space with this, but i really don't want to lose all my
wonderful letters. you all understand, don't you?

hugs,
deb

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date:         sat, 29 jun 1996 18:01:57 -0700
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from:         michael bunch <mrbcom@worldnet.att.net>
subject:      daemon #

hi all,

i misplaced the number for
daemon and need to contact
andrea about an order.

if anyone has it handy and
could email it privately i'd
be much appreciative.

thanks, michael  :-)

ps  happy pride...for those
    to which it applies.

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subject:      daemon #...again???

hi again,

don't know if this made it
through the first time.  the
original request had some sort
mailer/return problem.

i misplaced the number for
daemon and need to contact
andrea about an order.

if anyone has it handy and
could email it privately i'd
be much appreciative.

thanks, michael  :-)

ps  happy pride...for those
    to which it applies.

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reply-to:     peter council followill <pfollow@emory.edu>
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from:         peter council followill <pfollow@emory.edu>
subject:      piedmont?

it's three in the morning, but can anyone tell me what time ig are
playing at piedmont?  i don't have a copy of the loaf on me, so if anyone
can get back to me with the details, i would appreciate it.  thanks.
-peter

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if trouble was money, i'd be a millionaire.....
                                                        -albert collins

peter followill-> pfollow@emory.edu-> emory university-> atlanta,ga
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from:         ncrobino@aol.com
subject:      1996 sh-orders in as of 6/30/96
x-to:         indigo@clark.net, lwarren531@aol.com, scady@umich.edu,
              poohgrl816@aol.com, aneeza@cse.fau.edu

here ya go!
thanks all!
in as of 6/30/96

deadline is july 9th!  no exceptions can be made, so please hurry!

thanks everyone!

amy mednick 1 xxl
jeni saulino 1 xl
laura rice 1 xl
steven reynolds 1 xl
kirsten chevalier 1 xl
greg flamer 1 xl
lisa savu 1 xl
gwen drueger 1 l
randy rohrer 2 xxl
brian harvey 1 xl
camille kearl 2 xxl 1xl
connie tsuchiya 1 l
joan ferguson 1 xl
kristina - 1 xxl
derek moulaison 1 xl
diane krause 1 xl
craig haskins 1 xl 1 xxl
jen holt 1 xl
sharon james 1 xl
whit kuhn 1 xl
lisa winters 1 l
daniel tsang 1 l
sherlyn koo 1 l
sandy robinette 1 xl
sarah street 1 xl
trant batey 1 xl
rob augino 1 xl
maren mitchell 1 xl
dana carlson 1 xl
deb hanrahan 1 xl 1 xxl
sunny bueck 1 xl
marilyn macvey 1 xl
r.sefton smith 1 xxl
sheri yamada 1 xl 1 xxl
stacy sheperson 1 xl
corinne simpson 1 xl
cyndi johnson 1 xl 2 xxl
pooh 1 xxl
derek duncan 1 xl
gwen keyt 1 xl
rose culbreth 1 xxl
mary kushman 1 xl
rena shear 1 xl
howard barlow 2 xl
deb o'donoghue 2 l
ann labeck 1 xxl
donna schwartz 1 l
chris becker 2 xl
stacy waterworth 1 xl
deanna newcomb 2 xl
kat kohara 1 xl
chris antolini 1 xl
tiffany hein 2 xl
karen robinson 1 xxl
julie goldman 1 xl
cynthia crecca 1 l
karen harper 1 l
rebecca mctail 2 xl (tentative 2, 1 assured)
stephanie rieder 1 xl (holding)
anna hidalgo 1 l
abigail lank 1 l 1xl
rachel rabaey 1 xl
mandy warren 1 xl
karey eals 1 xl
chris imershein 1 l
amy snyder 1 xl
dwayne jarrell 1 xl
christine chambus 3 xl
jasmine ma 2 l
aneeza agha 1 l
rosie swartz 1 xxl
kellie deis 1 xl

please hurry!  get your orders in!  the absolute deadline
is the 9th of july!
thanks everyone for your support!
take care
rob
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

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date:         sun, 30 jun 1996 20:15:00 edt
reply-to:     tracy & shedding hordes <clumber9@alliance.net>
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from:         tracy & shedding hordes <clumber9@alliance.net>
subject:      tmf: summary of things learned

        okay, so help me if i am incorrect, but the cumulative summation of
the ig-l '96 interpretation of tmf is:  <drrrrruuuuummmmm rollll!.......>

****  it is about hairy cats having sex on wheels... and all because of the
fascist behavior of the american recording industry. ****

right?

tracy <waving again to my west and slightly north and hollering, "4 more
days!!!!!" >
        ps - do y'all think we should send a copy or our interpretation to
amy? she'd be so proud of us... or something....

~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^~^~^~^~^^~ (homesick for mountains)
"the dreams came in like needy children
          tugging at my sleeve....
i said i have no way of feeding you
           so leave...."
        --- emily saliers "prince of darkness"

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