lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-07b

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 00:45:54 -0400
reply-to:     "david a. meyerson" <davidmey@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
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from:         "david a. meyerson" <davidmey@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
subject:      greetings...
in-reply-to:  <199607070400.aaa01416@netspace.org>

hi y'all.
my name is daniel (despite whatever the address says) and i'm new here.
i've been an ig fan for over 4 years now, but technically only 3 (due to
some extenuating circumstances and emotional trauma associated with other
people, i couldn't listen to ig for about a year). i've seen them only
once in concert about 2 years ago at this place in virginia called wolf
trap and it was an incredible experience. i was almost brought to tears
by the end of the concert.

my ig experience tonight:
i was at this birthday party tonight for a friend of mine and i
knew everyone there but i was only really close with one person there and
i didn't see her much so i was kinda alone and not fitting in much.
anyway, when the party was almost over i was very tired and not feeling
very good and galileo popped into my head and it made me happy. until i
got to the bridge after "...nuclear annihilation" when i realized that i
had drawn a complete blank to what words come after it. it drove me crazy
for about 10 minutes after i asked everybody there and nobody knew it
(which reminds me to start converting people now) but it finally came to
me and then i got really happy. it's the little things that really make
things worth while, n'est pas?

may the force be with you
daniel

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 00:42:50 -0500
reply-to:     claro casey <claro@m2.monsterbit.com>
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from:         claro casey <claro@m2.monsterbit.com>
subject:      re: vld stuff (migc)
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in-reply-to:  <960703152424_148385824@emout09.mail.aol.com>

> one more question, and then i'll go--promise!  does anyone know if vld boots
> exist?  if so, does someone happen to have any? (oops--that was 2 questions.
>  i guess i lied.)  i really, really want to hear them live, and i'd be
> willing to trade whatever i have <grovel, grovel>.

hello. i've received a few vld requests/questions lately from this list
so i thought i'd send out my quarterly blurb about vld.

indeed they rock.
indeed you should see them live.
perhaps you should check out the cd. we actually have about 23 copies of
the first run available for those that want to have first edition copies.
you can get it by sending email to hello@monsterbit.com or by sending a
check for $12 plus $2 shipping to:
moksha records
603 w. 13th st. #1a-335
austin, tx 78701

we just repressed the record and have entered a distribution contract in
the south/southeast...so you should be able to get it at any of the major
stores in that region in about 2 months.

sorry the lyrics aren't on the site...we are working on a new vld site
which could include lyrics.

thanks so much for the support. ya'll have been really really great!

mellie price
moksha records/
monsterbit media

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 05:30:30 -0400
reply-to:     cylinda parga <104771.517@compuserve.com>
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from:         cylinda parga <104771.517@compuserve.com>
subject:      melissa ferrick at eddie's attic 7/10 (nigc)

hey y'all-

sorry to those of you who object to nigc, but i thought there were enough
of y'all in the atlanta and surrounding areas out there to justify posting
this.  the subject line says it all, melissa ferrick is playing at eddie's
on the 10th, or so she said tonight in concert.  which was incredible.  if
you can go, go.  she's amazing, such great energy, awesome music, talent.
it should be well worth the drive, if you have to drive a bit of a
distance.  if you're not fortunate enough to be near atlanta (wouldn't we
all love to live there? :)  and haven't yet heard melissa's music, i highly
recommend you check out her stuff on cd.  really good, and i know lots of
people on the list would agree with that.  okay, now back to your regularly
scheduled igc, sorry for the interlude but she deserves as big an audience
as possible, and you deserve to go, if you can

peace,
cylinda

hi all you fellow ig fans,

i was hoping y'all could help me. i have the possibility of buying a "shades of indigo" cd. the problem is that i don't know what a fair price would be. can anyone help me?

also, i am gearing up for the trip to ri for the ben & jerry's folk festival. have anyplans been made for the list members to meet? i am counting the days. i severely need an amy and emily fix. hope to see y'all there and thanks for any help you can give with the cd.

staci

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand..." ar

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 10:02:13 -0400
reply-to:     kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
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from:         kristina cizas <kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
subject:      re: "shades of indigo"
x-to:         staci j <staci_j_1@wow.com>
in-reply-to:  <199607070914_mc1-66d-c0ea@compuserve.com>

on sun, 7 jul 1996, staci j wrote:

> i was hoping y'all could help me.  i have the possibility of buying a
> "shades of indigo" cd.  the problem is that i don't know what a fair
> price would be.  can anyone help me?

i wouldn't pay more than $25 for it. it's not *that* difficult to come by.

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kristina cizas                 "let us dig our gardens and not be elsewhere;
kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu        let us take long walks in the open air...
                                  let us bathe in the rivers and lakes...
                                  let us indulge in games...
    ~~~~~~~~~~~                   let us be more simple; simple and true in
"we are wise, wise women,           our gestures, in our words, and simple
   we are giggling girls..."        and true in our minds above all. let us
          --ani                     be ourselves."
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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 10:27:42 -0400
reply-to:     queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>
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from:         queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>
subject:      _who_ is so f-ing beautiful?

hi. i realize i should have asked this question when the subject came up
a couple weeks ago, but i just got my nojf tape in the mail and so now i
wondering -- who exactly is emily talking about when she says "he"s so
fucking beautiful" ?

amy

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 11:26:15 -0400
reply-to:     rbsayre@aol.com
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from:         richard sayre iii <rbsayre@aol.com>
subject:      re: _who_ is so f-ing beautiful?
x-to:         amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu

in a message dated 96-07-07 10:33:08 edt, amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu
(queen minerva) writes:

<< hi. i realize i should have asked this question when the subject came up
a couple weeks ago, but i just got my nojf tape in the mail and so now i
wondering -- who exactly is emily talking about when she says "he"s so
fucking beautiful" ?

amy

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she was referring to gabe kaplan... no.. that's mr. kotter.... gabe harris (
i think that's his last name)- joan baez's son (who is!). he came out &
played the drums for "closer to fine". :)

rick

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 09:48:10 -0700
reply-to:     edgy <edgy@netcom.com>
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from:         edgy <edgy@netcom.com>
subject:      re: melissa ferrick at eddie's attic 7/10 (nigc)
in-reply-to:  <199607070530_mc1-66c-e0c0@compuserve.com>

on sun, 7 jul 1996, cylinda parga wrote:

>
> sorry to those of you who object to nigc, but i thought there were enough
> of y'all in the atlanta and surrounding areas out there to justify posting
> this. the subject line says it all, melissa ferrick is playing at eddie's
> on the 10th, or so she said tonight in concert. which was incredible. if

if anyone wants a copy of melissa ferrick's tour schedule, email me. oh,
and i'm also going to virgin today to see if there are any copies of the
ksca cd still available for those who requested it earlier in the week.

allison                 speaking of your publicist, i think i saw her at
edgy@netcom.com         off vine, doing lunch with a couple of parenthetical
                        hollywood types -- they were vacillating between the
                        white zinfandel and a straight answer.
                                --"e.w." (9/27/95)

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 12:42:00 cdt
reply-to:     andrew white <andrew_white@dell.com>
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from:         andrew white <andrew_white@dell.com>
subject:      indigo girls leaving america ?

does any one know if the indigo girls plan on leaving the us and coming
to europe to play some gigs ? if they are, do you know when and where ?

love,

andrew

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 13:12:00 cdt
reply-to:     andrew white <andrew_white@dell.com>
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subject:      indigo girls leaving america ?

does any one know if the indigo girls plan on leaving the us and
coming to europe to play some gigs ? if they are, do you know when and
where ?

love,

andrew

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 14:55:08 -0500
reply-to:     "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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from:         "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: covers and d. williams on radio
x-to:         hak@crai.com

>>>on another note, dar williams, along with bill morrisey, and someone
else, will be on the radio on sunday at noon in boston, wumb, 91.9 fm.
it is a concert of talk and songs that was recorded lsat week at old
vienna coffehouse. it should be about two hours. if anyone happens to
catch it on tape, or if you have already caught the original broadcast,
i'd love to hear from you. i live a few miles from old vienna, but can't
get wumb on my radio!<<<
i just managed to catch the second half of the show on tape (overslept and
missed the first hour, worse luck). i'm offering it to anyone who sends a
60-minute tape and sase to:
kirsten chevalier
p.o. box 620414
newton lower falls, ma 02162
the 'someone else' is les sampou, btw.

kirsten

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 13:00:45 -0700
reply-to:     andrade <andrade@az.com>
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from:         andrade <andrade@az.com>
subject:      re: _who_ is so f-ing beautiful?
x-to:         queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.960707102300.23589a-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>

emily was talking about joan baez's son gabriel. he was pretty good
looking so i can see why emily said it... and he tossed me a set list when
i asked him for one after the concert so he was a pretty cool guy too (he
actually went off stage to get it for me so it wasn't like he had it right
there or anything). whee :) hmm how old would you guys say he is? i am
really bad at guessing ages but he was definitely an adult (late 20s?).

- kristina (who thought it was really funny when teri said hearing emily
say 'fucking' was like hearing your mom swear for the first time hehehe)
um i suddenly blanked on how to spell terry's/teri's name and now i just
realized i havent seen her post in some time. did she disappear for the
summer? i fergit.

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trying to read andrade@az.com
the greek upon the stars http://www.az.com/~andrade

on sun, 7 jul 1996, queen minerva wrote:

> hi. i realize i should have asked this question when the subject came up
> a couple weeks ago, but i just got my nojf tape in the mail and so now i
> wondering -- who exactly is emily talking about when she says "he"s so
> fucking beautiful" ?
> amy

does anyone have boots of blue flood(or is it blue food? ive heard both),
shades of indigo(most interested in this for special ig memories), color me
grey, reverse 1, ep, making movies, purple parrot(ive never seen one<--a
parrot i mean), don't eat out of dented cans(or something to that effect
anyway), ben & jerry's newport folk fest '90? i have been looking around
and havent found anything... also not sure exactly what is on them. if
anyone out there would be kind enough to email me back with info and a
possible trade? i'd appreciate it.
thanx y'all,
tiffany

i really don't know what to say about mystery except that i love, love, love
it!!!!!!!
it was certainly one of the songs that made me an "emily person"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:) i can't wait to hear what everyone has to say about it!!

rick

*what would you give for your kid fears?...replace the rent with the stars
above...*-amy ray
*i want my old friends i want my old face i want my old mind fuck this time &
place*
ani difranco

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 20:39:17 -0400
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: boot question
x-to:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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most of these are avaiable from anyone on here i myself have blue food
nad dont eat out of dented cands i thik i have color me grey to
hugs anthony van pyre

on sun, 7 jul 1996, tiffany wrote:

> does anyone have boots of blue flood(or is it blue food? ive heard both),
> shades of indigo(most interested in this for special ig memories), color me
> grey, reverse 1, ep, making movies, purple parrot(ive never seen one<--a
> parrot i mean), don't eat out of dented cans(or something to that effect
> anyway), ben & jerry's newport folk fest '90?  i have been looking around
> and havent found anything... also not sure exactly what is on them. if
> anyone out there would be kind enough to email me back with info and a
> possible trade?  i'd appreciate it.
> thanx y'all,
> tiffany
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have y'all ever noticed how many acronyms we use on this list?  from simple
ones
like es and ar to album and song titles (e.g. tmf, rop, tgwtwotwihh), we
could probably have an entire conversation about ig using just acronyms, and
non-fans would have no idea what was being said (serves them right! =)  i was
bored and
feeling rather silly (oh, no...here we go again--medicated caffeine), so i
decided to create a list of as many as i could think of that we use on the
list.  if anyone else is
feeling crazy on a night like tonight, ;) please add any that i've missed.
okay, here
goes...

ig (duh!)
ar, es
all album (including boots) and song titles
igc and all variations thereof
soc
iwnbc
ksca (okay, so i stretched it a wee bit)
ep
sotw (formerly sotd)
rdr
hte
bots
vld
ejs
mm
bds
kh (whose cd, [hey, there's another one! =] fact and fiction, i've been
listening to all day)
df
ad
me
jcs
lol
peta
nojf
nff
smtp (and _why_ do i keep getting those darn errors?!)
irc

well, that's all i could think of...yeah, i was pretty bored. =) let me know
if there are any obvious ones i missed...lessee--if just kidding is jk, would
"only joking" be oj?!

peace, love, and the iwnbc soc,
cmm (my initials and inadvertent advertising for michelle =) /p-head

oh, and let me add that before i joined the list, i was _very_
acronymically-challenged...it was cured in about 3 days.

wow, carrie, you must be bored! :)
just wanted to propose someone should append an annotated copy of that list
to the faq for this list, since it seems like a thorough summary of what gets
discussed.

on july 6th tiffany asked......>
=================================================
does anyone have boots of blue flood(or is it blue food? ive heard both),
shades of indigo(most interested in this for special ig memories), color me
grey, reverse 1, ep, making movies, purple parrot(ive never seen one<--a
parrot i mean), don't eat out of dented cans(or something to that effect
anyway),
====================================================

does anyone know what is making movies??

mjg

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 21:46:46 -0400
reply-to:     water <water@nrv.net>
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from:         water <water@nrv.net>
subject:      radar rose/freedomfest
x-to:         atlartists@monsterbit.com

so, it had been exactly a month *to the day* since i had seen one of my
*very* favorite bands live, and though it was hot, i had missed their last
two hometown gigs due to atlanta pride and previous commitments, i made my
way to radar rose and red weather's (another local roanoke, va band) answer
to july 4th celebrations, pride events, etc.. and that was *freedomfest*

what is freedomfest? well, it is a day showcasing the local southwest va
talent that celebrates our **freedom**, our **independence** and our
***power to change the wrongs to rights**..

i showed up about 2.30 and had the pleasure of hearing not only radar rose,
but also red weather- a dead type band w/ a bit of grunge and folk thrown
in, sun dried tomatoes- another grunge type band, someone who played
keyboard (whom i've forgotten, argh :) ), and a solo act (whose name i've
also forgotten, forgive me)that consisted of him and his guitar whose
stories reminded me some of arlo guthrie.. but, though i don't remember a
lot of details, let me tell you this, you do need to keep your eye on this
area of virginia.. there is some incredible stuff going on here.. in all the
arts- visual, musical, etc..

okay, radar rose.. i didn't realize how much i'd missed this band play, till
i heard the first sounds from the guitars, bass, sax, and drums.. though
the cd is excellent, it doesn't do them justice, energywise.. you gotta see
them to believe it..

now.. the next question.. are they coming your way anytime soon? yes they
are! **if you are planning to be in the general vicinity of atlanta during
the olympics** i call them daring.. going down during it.. here we go::

22 july-- ocoee tn     olympic village
23 july-- athens ga    olympic festival
24 july-- atlanta ga   olympic festival
25 july-- auburn al    lil' irelands
26 july-- b'ham al     otey's
27 july-- columbus ga  southern celebration festival
27 july-- columbus ga  the loft
28 july-- columbus ga  olympic village
29-31 july-- athens ga-b'ham al  olympic villages
1  aug--  greenville, sc  the handlebar
2  aug--  columbia sc     clyde's
3  aug--  augusta ga      red lion
4  aug--  atlanta ga      olympic village

*whew* and.. before all that.. *caroline aiken* will be playing with them
on the 18th july at the bridge club in moneta, va and the 20th at the
coffee pot in roanoke, va..

well.. all do check this band out live, if you can.. it is a must see..

hmm.. it's amazing how much music touches my soul... these guys definetly do
that.. :)

take care

"sit by a river, find peace and meaning in the rhythm of the lifeblood of
the earth..."  -anonymous
____________________________________________________________________________
                           gay but not narrow
                http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html
diviant: fan of             diviant rosehip                  rosehip: fan of
viva la diva                                                 radar rose

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 22:18:09 edt
reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      the b&b reference

if beavis and butthead make another reference to ig anythime, i'm gonna be
pretty pissed.  (don't mean to offend any b&b fans out there.)  hell, it's all
supposed to be in the name of fun and sophomoric entertainment, but...i often
ask myself why i watch that stuff anyway.  i mean, they took lita ford and
ozzy osbourne to be our beloved a & e.  whatever.

--mek

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 22:45:24 -0400
reply-to:     "david a. meyerson" <davidmey@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
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from:         "david a. meyerson" <davidmey@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
subject:      ok...
in-reply-to:  <199607080124.vaa20260@netspace.org>

so maybe i disregarded the warning message about reading the faq about
the acronyms on the list. now that the confusion has settled i think i'll
go use some of that good advice.

may the force be with you
daniel

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date:         sun, 7 jul 1996 23:15:18 -0400
reply-to:     katherine grant <katherine.grant@yale.edu>
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from:         katherine grant <katherine.grant@yale.edu>
subject:      and now, from left field... (igc)

thought some might find this novel interpretation of lc interesting:
from a review of so in the houston chronicle, 9/5/94

"in least complicated, a woman dreams of starting over with a clean slate
while waiting for the kids to come home from school"

whoa! did i miss something?

also, heard on (ugh) kasey kaseem's countdown today... "that was tracy
chapman giving her man a serious ultimatum in "gimme one reason..." yeesh.

kate

in a message dated 96-07-07 22:28:55 edt, ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu (mary
kushman) writes:

<< i mean, they took lita ford and
ozzy osbourne to be our beloved a & e. whatever. >>

i wish i could say i didn't laugh at that, but... ha!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
sometimes sophomoric humor is fun. :)

rick
*what would you give for your kid fears?...replace the rent with the stars
above...*-amy ray
*i want my old friends i want my old face i want my old mind fuck this time &
place*
ani difranco

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date:         mon, 8 jul 1996 03:48:51 gmt
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph>
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subject:      re: mystery week!
x-to:         rbsayre@aol.com

this is the first song on so that really hit me - first time i heard it, i was
gone. it served to re-confirm my status as an "emily person" ...

one of my best friends in the world is my complete opposite. when we were
first starting out, it was so excruciatingly difficult for us to understand
each other, it often felt like we were speaking different languages. after
some very rough times (we still fight once in a while), we're finally on an
even keel. though i had my doubts during the worst of it, now i can say that
it was worth it.

anyway, she always says that "mystery" is her song for me. she always thinks
of me when she hears it. i never thought of it that way until she mentioned
it, but now i can see how the lines "maybe that's all that we need is to meet
in the middle of impossibility - standing at opposite poles, equal partners
in a mystery ..." would have special significance for our situation.

anna

p.s. interesting note: i read in an interview that e&a hadn't yet worked out
all the harmonies and guitar parts for "mystery" when they started recording
swamp ophelia, which is very rare for them. i love the 1200cf version. i like
the studio one a lot, too, though maybe it could have been a teeny bit
slower. what do you all think?

hi all.  i just got home.....it is sunday night....much later than i
anticipated arriving.  i am sitting here looking at a stack of letters from
ya'll for the shirts...and i am too tired to check them all in right now.  i
must sleep.  i promise to do it in the morning and post the most recent
version of the orders in list.  thanks for the patience ya'll!  and yeah, i
had a great time in west virginia!  beautiful place!
take care
rob augino

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howdy, all!
        i do apologize for the lateness of this subject, i have been
on vacation for a week or so. anyways, as i was driving along on my
way to canada for vacation, i was listening to tmf, and it suddenly
hit me as to the meaning. i could barely wait to come home and tell
all of you---i figured it out!!!!!
        so here it is. the reason we all had so much trouble is that
the music tells the story too, the words alone are only half of it!
the song is about coming out with your lover that you are
gay/lesbian!!(personally, i am not a lesbian, but i do support those
that are) so heres the interperetation:
at first the music is just calm and normal. the words (waking from a
dream...etc) the sounds of wedding deaths and fears.. these are her
fears of marriage, and her fears that if she marries a man, her spirit
will die. all i've learned has been in vain, like water on a
stain...all that she's learned about relationships doesn't work for
her because she is a lesbian, and learning to deal with that. maybe
she seed he lesbianism as a stain, and the water of straight
relationships doesn't fix that. the touch me i'm so beautiful part is
when she is talking to her lover, trying to convince her to come out
to the world. (come with me, it's not worth it if you don't) is saying
come out with me, why should we live in secret? she is crying because
she is hiding. (i don't have my lyrics in front of me, so please
forgive me, the rest i think you can figure out with this theme)
the important part comes in when the music changes, and gets more
energetic. this is an adrenaline rush, she is finally going to be able
to be who she is, plain as day. she is excited!(jumping for
joy--jump,jump,jump so high) watch me let you down is to her
parents/family /friends that don't approve.. she is saying i'm sorry,
but this is who i am. if i stumble..etc is saying who cares what the
concequences are? trying to hold it like rain in a river... a river
doesn't hold rain very well, she can no longer hold it in. then the
music changes again..gets very confused. then, out of all the
confusion emerges the melody line, only stronger, louder, fiercer. out
of all the onfusion, there was one thing that was true, and that was
who she was. the confusion tried to hold her back, but it only made
her stronger. she is confident in who she is, and she is not afraid to
show it. hallelujah! oh, and the "all skate, now reverse" fits into
this. she dares to skate opposite from everyone else.
        i am very interested to hear if i am just a loony or i what i
am saying has some merit. let me know what you think.
kel
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what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

hi! i just got a golden retriever puppy and i can't come up with a
cool name? any ideas? thanks!
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subject:      amy's socs transcription offer

okay, i think there are some new folks on this list who missed karen vittek's
offer when she made it in april ... so, i have decided to offer it again to
everyone who may be interested.

to explain what "it" is: we have managed to compile a collection of many of
amy's "chickenman" stream-of-consciousness monologues, which she often goes
into when performing this song live. some very generous listers contributed
these transcriptions (i can't take credit for any transcribing.)

it's really amazing stuff.

if you want copies of these *written* transcriptions, please e-mail me
privately and i will forward them to you.

bye!

anna

really like this thread - meant to jump in on it last week but ran out of
time and got too exciting planning a weekend in london for pride... :) had
a great time - spent most of day in front of the wow women's music stage and
heard some great bands...and some not so great...and fem2fem from la...not
sure 'bout the music but......! (no, i really can't make further comment for
fear of being labelled politically incorrect!!!) anyway, was a fab day, and
hope everyone else at pride events around the globe had an uplifting and
proud time :)

anyways, onto those covers...
> banquet and electricity by joni mitchell (the thought of emily singing
>the latter already gives me goosebumps)
thirded! electricity is one of my all time joni faves... i was dead excited
when i saw amelia listed on the liner for some boot or other, but then
realised it was one of em's songs and not the joni classic, so i'd love to
hear the version she is reputed to have soundchecked with...

okay - how 'bout one of my earliest muscial faves - the monkees - i can just
hear amy growling out stepping stone - 'no girl, not me!', emily delivering
a touching and poignant version of shades of grey (i'm reaching for my
hankie already...) or maybe a little bit me a little bit you (imagine a
classical guitar solo instead of the hammond bit in the middle...)

hmmm... what else... well, while i'm harking back to early muscial
influences, dare i suggest some abba or is that just too perverse! - promise
i'm not even going to try to imagine a&e in white lycra jumpsuits!! oops -
too late... ;) amy could do a rockin' does your mother know... emily p'raps
i wonder or thank you for the music... okay, i'll stop right there! sorry -
saw an abba cover band called bjorn again play at pride and got a bit
carried away!

has anyone out there heard of gryphon? very obscure british pychadelic rock
band in the seventies - used to incorporate a lot of weird baroque
instruments - krumhorns(?) and serpents and the like - had a record out
called treason that has some really powerful songs on it that i reckon a&e
could do brilliant versions of... i have a really old distorted casette copy
- if anyone out there has this album then i would love to trade and will be
eternally eternally grateful - i've been searching for it at record fairs
for years...

do you think we should vote on these ideas and send russell carter our track
list for a covers album? you never know, they might take us seriously! i
mean, shawn colvin and nanci griffith both recorded really cool cover albums...

anyway, 'nuff rambling from me!

seffy

on the way to work this morning, i was listening to a local radio station in
the d.c. area. i just happened to catch a news story about a music event
that is supposed to include none other than ig! anyway, the story didn't
make very much sense, so i've spent the morning tracking down the
broadcasting company the story came from. they just faxed it to me. it
doesn't really clarify anything, but i thought i would post it anyway. if
anyone out there has any more info on this, please let me know.

thanks-
deanna

*****reprinted without permission*****

compiled by valerie kuklenski, upi entertainment editor

music festival launched: the national academy of recording arts and sciences
and discover card will debut their discover grammy festival next week with
the first of 150-plus music events in 10 u.s. cities aimed at making good
music affordable and accessible to the public. the shows run from july 12th
through october in minneapolis, dallas, new york, philadelphia, seattle,
chicago, los angeles, miami, san francisco and washington, and will include
concerts, club performances, community outreach events and educational
programs. the performers lined up include, sting, liza minelli, b.b. king,
steely dan, gypsy kings, spin doctors, micheal bolton, john tesh and the
indigo girls. naras president, micheal greene and others, announcing the
festival bemoaned the fact that music programs have taken severe hits in
budget cuts in many public school systems. singer roberta flack said, "it
scares me to death that society puts such little value on the educational
part of the music business. the impact that american music has on the entire
world is a given. we make the most noise. for us to stop and cut it off,
right at the source where we need to be feeding it to these kids, i think is
a mistake. i really do." chris barron of the spin doctors said wanting to
make music is as basic as kids banging on pots with spoons; they just need
to be taught. "without music i would probably be a druggie lying in the
gutter," barron added.

i sincerely apologize, i know that junk-mail is hateful, but i can't get into
my sentmail and i forgot the address for subscribing, since i've been gone so
long. so... can somebody please send me the address and directions? i'm
desperate. i tried to stay away but with all the indigo-girl happenings
lately, i can't take it anymore.
mc (the reaper)

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              <199607080224.waa24506@netspace.org>

did i miss something? what b&b reference? - i've only seen them once in
my life for about 4 minutes (then i had to turn off the tv so i didn't
throw up - no offence to those who are fans)

in the dark

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subject:      96 shirt orders in as of sat's mail--7/6/96!!!!
x-to:         indigo@clark.net, lwarren531@aol.com, scady@umich.edu,
              poohgrl816@aol.com, aneeza@cse.fau.edu

this is a list of the orders in...including all the ones i got while i was
gone :)  i will post another list tonight...after i get todays mail.  then
the final list tomorrow. please keep your eyes on these lists and let me know
if your order is not on todays list!!!!   i repeat, if your order is not on
todays list...the one of orders in as of 7/8/96...to be posted later today...
let me know asap~!  so that i can include your anticipated order...and let
you know when it arrives.
thanks ya'll!!!!  looks great so far!
take care
rob

in as of 7/6/96

deadline is july 9th! no exceptions can be made, so please hurry!

thanks everyone!

amy mednick 1 xxl
jeni saulino 1 xl
laura rice 1 xl
steven reynolds 1 xl
kirsten chevalier 1 xl
greg flamer 1 xl
lisa savu 1 xl
gwen drueger 1 l
randy rohrer 2 xxl
brian harvey 2 xl
camille kearl 2 xxl 1xl
connie tsuchiya 1 l
joan ferguson 1 xl
kristina - 1 xxl
derek moulaison 1 xl
diane krause 1 xl
craig haskins 1 xl 1 xxl
jen holt 1 xl
sharon james 1 xl
whit kuhn 1 xl
lisa winters 1 l
daniel tsang 1 l
sherlyn koo 1 l
sandy robinette 1 xl
sarah street 1 xl
trant batey 1 xl
rob augino 1 xl
maren mitchell 1 xl
dana carlson 1 xl
deb hanrahan 1 xl 1 xxl
sunny bueck 1 xl
marilyn macvey 1 xl
r.sefton smith 1 xxl
sheri yamada 1 xl 1 xxl
stacy sheperson 1 xl
corinne simpson 1 xl
cyndi johnson 1 xl 2 xxl
pooh 1 xxl
derek duncan 1 xl
gwen keyt 1 xl
rose culbreth 1 xxl
mary kushman 1 xl
rena shear 1 xl
howard barlow 2 xl
deb o'donoghue 2 l
ann labeck 1 xxl
donna schwartz 1 l
chris becker 2 xl
stacy waterworth 1 xl
deanna newcomb 2 xl
kat kohara 1 xl
chris antolini 1 xl
tiffany hein 2 xl
karen robinson 1 xxl
julie goldman 1 xl
cynthia crecca 1 l
karen harper 1 l
rebecca mctail 2 xl (tentative 2, 1 assured)
stephanie rieder 1 xl (holding)
anna hidalgo 1 l
abigail lank 1 l 1xl
rachel rabaey 1 xl
mandy warren 1 xl
karey eals 1 xl
chris imershein 1 l
amy snyder 1 xl
dwayne jarrell 1 xl
christine chambus 3 xl
jasmine ma 2 l
aneeza agha 1 l
rosie swartz 1 xxl
kellie deis 1 xl
marcy goldstein 2 xxl
cylinda parga 1 xl
joe hamilton 1 xl
elaine mccracken 1 l
patty konopka 1 xl
lisa lewis 1 l 1 xl
jill lance 2 xl 2 l
eileen mulligan 1 xl
deb reiser 2 xl 2 l
silverfish 1 xl
sheri allen 1 xl
carol finlayson 1 xl
emily graves 1 l
sarah wardrop 2 xl
steve moore 1 xxl
janine boyer 1 l
rob hite 1 xxl
phil norman 1 xl
hope wisneski 1 xl
ruth frobe 1 l 1 xl
karen duncan 1 xl
marie rowe 1 xl
pam beavers 2 xl
kim hugo 1 l
heather borsum 1 l
susan guardino 2 l
kevin minoli 1 l
kater-w 1 l
melissa gordon 2 xxl
shelly moore 1 xxl
jason sled 1 xl
katy wischow 4 xl
cathy haslam 1 l
r. johnson 1 xl
lorie driscoll 1 xl
tracy weeks 1 l 1 xl
andrew bissaro 1 xxl
judy shabry 1 l 1 xl 1 xxl
harry keates 1 xl
alexandria ogilvie 1 xxl

150 shirts ordered so far!!!!! kermit says yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
wowsers!

please hurry! get your orders in! the absolute deadline
is the 9th of july!
thanks everyone for your support!
take care
rob
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

at 10:52 am 7/8/96 -0400, you wrote:
>did i miss something? what b&b reference? - i've only seen them once in
>my life for about 4 minutes (then i had to turn off the tv so i didn't
>throw up - no offence to those who are fans)
>
>in the dark
>

ditto for me... i have no clue whatcha all are talking about... i only watch
b&b rarely when im too tired to care(no offense anyone) so, can someone clue
me in??

in the dark ii
:)

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hi y'all...

this is my first post to the group, and i look forward to talking with all
of you and getting good info on ig.

my first burning question: does anyone have any kind of info on the new
songs the girls played at the new orleans jazz fest? lyrics, etc? thanks.

amy

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subject:      nff fan tour update 7/8/96

the new and final due date for money to be received for this is
friday, july 19th. this supersedes all dates posted previously.

i have been able to get an extension on my group reservation at the best
western in newport. the new due date is july 5, 1996. if you are interested
in getting a room or a space in a room, i need to receive your money by then.

cost:

friday/saturday - $160 per room/$40 per person per night

sunday - $120 per room/$40 per person per night

send money to:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016
(908)418-7115

call or e-mail me if you need any additional information

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

on 7/8 deanna wrote...

>>music festival launched: the national academy of recording arts and
sciences and discover card will debut their discover grammy festival
next week with
the first of 150-plus music events in 10 u.s. cities aimed at making
good music affordable and accessible to the public. the shows run
from july 12th
through october in minneapolis, dallas, new york, philadelphia,
seattle, chicago, los angeles, miami, san francisco and washington,
and will include
concerts, club performances, community outreach events and
educational programs. the performers lined up include, sting, liza
minelli, b.b. king,
steely dan, gypsy kings, spin doctors, micheal bolton, john tesh and
the indigo girls. >>

michael bolton???? i thought it said this was a music festival?

melissa
(who is feeling mighty catty this morning in spite of the fact that a
root canal might be in her mid-morning plans)

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subject:      nigc: looking for carolyn...

sorry to bother the list with this---carolyn i lost your @address,and
i just wanna know if you got my blank? ...paul

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subject:      re: cover girls

earlier today, at 12:59:58 bst, rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
proposed that amy and emily do some monkees covers...

hm. a good idea, seriously, though i must confess i automatically tried
to envision (enhear?) amy and emily do partridge family songs... "i
think i love you", "point me in the direction of albuquerque"...

if you recall, the partridge family did a cover of eric burdon and the
animals' "we gotta get out of this place", so anything's possible.

to quote from linda richman and coffee talk: "the partridge family are
neither partridges nor a family -- discuss!"

on a somewhat more serious note, why not amy and emily covering
jefferson airplane? "white rabbit", "somebody to love" (recently
covered by jim carrey in the reportedly hideous _cable guy_)... or the
moody blues? i think amy has the perfect voice for "nights in white
satin"!

--rahadyan

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subject:      re: just a small question?

on sat, 6 jul 96 14:45:56 -0500, indigo@bbs.cowland.com wrote:

>ok, lessee if i can remember this right....
>
>       monday's child is fair of face
>       tuesday's child is full of grace
>       wednesday's child is full of woe
>       thursday's child has far to go
>       friday's child is loving and giving
>       saturday's child works hard for its living

i can't vouch for the other lines, but as someone born on a sunday
(march 31, 1963), the last line is supposed to be:

but a child that is born on the sabbath day
is fair and wise and good and gay

according to nexis, a jack prelutsky did his own ghoulish parody of the
mother goose nursery rhyme for _monday's troll_, published earlier this
year and reviewed in the june 2nd issue of the new york times book
review:

monday's troll is mean and rotten,
tuesday's troll is misbegotten,
wednesday's troll is extra smelly,
thursday's has a baggy belly

<grin>

hm. methinks i know what i can get for my godchildrens' next
birthdays...

best regards,
rahadyan

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              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      happy birthday! (july 8, 1996)

jrcockr@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu (ryan cockrill) (happy 19th!):
"and there's not enough room in this world for my pain
signals cross and love gets lost and time passed makes it plain
of all my demon spirits i need you the most
i'm in love with your ghost"

(_ghost_)

:) :) :)

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subject:      covering the igs

well, now that i seem to have started a virtual avalanche by wondering
aloud what i'd like to see amy and emily cover ... who would we all
like to see covering _them_?

we've already heard of hootie and the blowfish covering "closer to
fine" ... what would be next? juice newton and dusty springfield
teaming up to cover "power of two"? jackson browne covering "history of
us"? stevie nicks and lindsay buckingham, formerly of fleetwood mac,
covering "least complicated"? highway 101 covering "galileo"? kiss
covering "finlandia"? mariah carey and michael jackson covering "don't
give that girl a gun"?

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>hi! i just got a golden retriever puppy and i can't come up with a
>cool name? any ideas? thanks!

umm, methinks the gender of said puppy is an important piece of info. if she
be a she, i can think of two _really_ good names...

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
driving...

lorinda wright            "...and we walk in the world of safe people
lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
lehigh university                                - dar williams
bethlehem, pa

i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!" -melissa ferrick

hi all,

really hate to be the bearer of bad/sad tidings, but it looks like the girls
are only going to make one appearance on this tour and it's minneapolis.

check out this website for details:

http://www.discovercard.com:80/novus/discover/19grammy.html

11 days till the olympics,

jill

at 12:53 pm 7/8/96 -0500, you wrote:
>on 7/8 deanna wrote...
>
>>>music festival launched: the national academy of recording arts and
>sciences and discover card will debut their discover grammy festival
>next week with
>the first of 150-plus music events in 10 u.s. cities aimed at making
>good music affordable and accessible to the public. the shows run
>from july 12th
>through october in minneapolis, dallas, new york, philadelphia,
>seattle, chicago, los angeles, miami, san francisco and washington,
>and will include
>concerts, club performances, community outreach events and
>educational programs. the performers lined up include, sting, liza
>minelli, b.b. king,
>steely dan, gypsy kings, spin doctors, micheal bolton, john tesh and
>the indigo girls. >>
>
>michael bolton???? i thought it said this was a music festival?
>

john tesh??????? yeeeeech!!! *gag, cough, choke* um... right, i thought the
same thing, wasnt this, music?? did someone goof?? (no offense if there is
anyone out there who likes jt, just voicing mho)

tiff

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if your order is not on
todays list...the one of orders in as of 7/8/96...
let me know asap~! so that i can include your anticipated order...and let
you know when it arrives.
this is important!
thanks ya'll!!!! looks great so far!
take care
rob

in as of 7/8/96

deadline is july 9th! no exceptions can be made, so please hurry!

thanks everyone!

amy mednick 1 xxl
jeni saulino 1 xl
laura rice 1 xl
steven reynolds 1 xl
kirsten chevalier 1 xl
greg flamer 1 xl
lisa savu 1 xl
gwen drueger 1 l
randy rohrer 2 xxl
brian harvey 2 xl
camille kearl 2 xxl 1xl
connie tsuchiya 1 l
joan ferguson 1 xl
kristina - 1 xxl
derek moulaison 1 xl
diane krause 1 xl
craig haskins 1 xl 1 xxl
jen holt 1 xl
sharon james 1 xl
whit kuhn 1 xl
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sherlyn koo 1 l
sandy robinette 1 xl
sarah street 1 xl
trant batey 1 xl
rob augino 1 xl
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dana carlson 1 xl
deb hanrahan 1 xl 1 xxl
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166 shirts ordered so far!!!!! kermit says yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
wowsers! yipeee!!!

please hurry! get your orders in! the absolute deadline
is the 9th of july!
thanks everyone for your support!
take care
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someone mentioned they'd like to hear ig cover this one. i've never heard a
complete version, but at the first show i saw (12/9/89 @ stanford), they
did a kick-ass version of summertime that segued into a few bars of
moondance and then faded out (amy sang). it was to swoon for. by the
way--in my endless search for boots, i'm trying to find some for the shows
i've actually attended. if anyone had boots for the following, i'd love to
arrange a trade or something (dates are approximate for most):

12/9/89    stanford memorial auditorium, stanford, ca
10/31/90   zellerbach, berkeley, ca
7/91       henry j. kaiser, oakland, ca (rescheduled from greek theater)
10/91**    humanitas benefit, berkeley (four voices--ig, joan baez, mcc)
8/21/94    greek theater, berkeley

**this one is near and dear to my heart--it was a great show, lots of
banter and fun, and harmonies that made my ears hum for weeks. bonus
brownie points (or brownies) for this one.

thanks,
carol

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carol gunby                  "we are dreamers in the making
mdindigo@well.com             we are not afraid of 'why?' "
                                                          --ferron
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lisa mentioned the mass amount of talent that was present at pride. just
wanted to say that i throw my support behind disaoppear fear and doubting
thomas. i saw doubting thomas for the first time at a df show up here in d.c.
anyone who has an opportunity to see them should. also, if anyone knows
anything more about them, i would appreciate the info.

on a side note....i just returned from the gay and lesbian parents coalition
international (glpci) conference. besides the lack of sleep, the emotional
overload and being put on the board, it was a wonderful weekend. just wanted
to inform the list to keep an eye out for a 20/20 show on the conference. who
knows how they will edit the footage, but i was taped wearing my list tee
(just for y'all:)....i'm also wearing the coolest velveteen docs ever made,
so check it out....and just a little shameless plug....any gay and lesbian
parents out there...look into glpci, they are a wonderful organization
providing support and advocacy for the community. if you have any questions
about them...or anything else for that matter, just let me know....

dosing off to sleep....
kate

x-shameless cd-plug: ani difranco, dilate
lines: 16

lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu> wrote:

>>hi! i just got a golden retriever puppy and i can't come up with a
>>cool name? any ideas? thanks!
>
>umm, methinks the gender of said puppy is an important piece of info.

not necessarily. my dalmation's name is cooper, which, as cooper seay and
cooper tisdale can tell you, is a unisex name. and a rather cool one, i
think (obviously). :)

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x-shameless cd-plug: ani difranco, dilate
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mjg333@aol.com wrote:

>on july 6th tiffany asked......>
>=================================================
>does anyone have boots of blue flood(or is it blue food? ive heard both),
>shades of indigo(most interested in this for special ig memories), color me
>grey, reverse 1, ep, making movies, purple parrot(ive never seen one<--a
>parrot i mean), don't eat out of dented cans(or something to that effect
>anyway),
>====================================================
>
>does anyone know what is making movies??

i believe that is just the dire straits album that has the original version
of "romeo and juliet" on it.

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- ani difranco in an npr interview

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on sat, 6 jul 1996, todd & connie tsuchiya wrote:

> i was walking through a casino called mystic lake in minnesota, when
> galileo started playing. figured i should stop right where i was and play
> whichever slot machine was in front of me (even though i hate slot
> machines). unfortunately, the moment was not as serendipitous as i might
> have hoped... i lost =(

squandering big bucks in your lifetime, eh?
:)
karey

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greetings all in indigo land!

i was wondering if someone could let me know the correct spelling of
a name, is it rach alpert or rach albert? i want to make sure it is
spelled correctly on the tape liner. thanks in advance for your help.
take care and peace!

-deb

hi there,

i was wondering if anyone that has ever been to newport can suggest a
campground somewhere closeby...or if you're a native newporter perhaps you
could suggest somewhere to camp...
there are 3 tents full of indigo fans making the trek from the toronto area
and would love to find a place to lay down our heads.
also, i am getting every message from the list twice (yes, 2x). does anyone
have any suggestions regarding getting rid of one copy?
thanking you in advance for your help...

tami

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greetings all!
i guess i should introduce myself first since i'm relatively new to the
list.  hmmm....(ponder, ponder)....where to begin....my name is stacie
and i'll be a sophomore at u of georgia in athens, and i've liked ig
since i was in 8th or 9th grade (i don't remember that exact tender age
when i first heard r+j from a friend's older brother).  besides that,
and the fact that i love frogs, writing, and mother earth, i'll leave
most of the quirky details about myself off for now.  just let me say
first that i saw the girls at atlanta pride a couple of weeks ago,
and they were absolutely incredible.  i think the friendly atmosphere
made the experience all the more moving.
okay, now for the article.  i got my 99xpress in the mail today, which
is a publication an atlanta radio station puts out, and i noticed an
article on daemon. i thought i would share it with all you listees.
hope y'all have a wonderful day!   :)
                  *copied without permission*
daemon records:  music for music's sake
by justin robertson
     in a day and age when indie record labels tend to be as generic and
image obsessed as their major label counterparts, daemon records offers
a refreshing option.  rather than paying lip service to artistic freedom
and slavishly asserting their "street cred," the label remains committed
to a true "alternative" ethos.  eschewing the mundane for the unique,
concentrating on the artist rather than the bottom line, and demonstrat-
ing a eclecticism unique for a small label, daemon records continues to
be a vital voice in the independent music scene.
     indigo girl amy ray started daemon in 1990 seemingly as a reaction
to being signed to a major label herself.  in a self-penned essay called
"the story of daemon records," she writes, "i realized that all around
me 'music' was getting lost amon the checkbooks, executives, and
mountains of paperwork that are all such a primary part of any major
label."  in an effort to "rescue" music that had inspired her, ray
decided to start a label that swore allegiance to quality and diversity.
beginning with records from such stalwart atlanta performers as the
ellen james society and gerard mchugh, the label has refused to pigeon-
hole itself with a defining sound.  operating on a strictly not-for-
profit basis, daemon averages several releases a year by artists
ranging from the reverbdrenched rock and roll of the rock*a*teens to
the quirky cocktail-pop of belloluna.  the label serves as a wayward
home for artists who are just too damn original for most image-conscious
labels.
     in a recent phone interview ray half-jokingly refers to daemon as
"indie label guerrilla warfare."  she explains, "i run daemon as a kind
of co-op...bands that i sign have to work a certain number of hours for
the record company."  tasks include stuffing envelopes and helping
prepare publicity packages for their own album's release.  john
brand, the label's publicist and singer for belloluna, explains, "i
think [ray] feels[the artist] ought to understand how a record label
works; they ought to take part in all aspects of their album.  that
way they can learn more about how the industry works, and if they get
signed to a major label, they are less likely to get taken advantage
of..."
     ray picks bands simply because she likes them.  "the music reflects
what i'm listening too," she maintains.  her support and interest in the
local music scene is self-evident.  while the label has released music
from artists outside the city, the majority come from atlanta.  brand
explains, "i don't think it's a conscious thing to just sign atlanta
talent, but amy lives here, so it just makes sense she's going to be a
little more tuned in to what is going on in this city."  indeed, the
scene is so fertile here ray laments the fact that she cannot sign all
the bands she likes.  what then?  supportive to the end, she replies,
"if they come to me i try to point them to another of the great local
indie labels..."
     so what's up with daemon these days?  well, besides albums from the
aforementioned belloluna and the rock*a*teens, the label has new
releases featuring reversing hour's angular rock, grady cousin's
performance-art folk songs, and danielle howle's enjoyable goofy live
album, live at mckissick museum.  in addition to concentrating on the
works of individual bands, daemon also plans to compile a major benefit
record every couple of years.  its first effort, the all-star blow-out
jesus christ superstar:  a resurrection raised money for several groups
battling gun violence.  their next project, honor, due on august 20,
promises to be daemon's biggest release yet.  the double album is in
support of the honor the earth campaign, a national fundraising and
public education campaign uniting artists with grassroots, indigenous
communities across north america.  the album will feature tracks  by
soul asylum, bonnie raitt, matthew sweet, indigo girls, latin playboys,
and john trudell, among many others.
     admittedly, ray and everyone at daemon is very excited about this
release, but they remain committed to providing a home to artists who
get overlooked in the trend-hungry, mainstream music industry.  brand
explains ray's commitment as a "utopian ideal of how a record company
should be run.  it ought to be music for music's sake."  with each
subsequent release daemon holds fast to this ideal.

:) :)

hi everyone,

i'm leaving tomorrow, so i'll be signing off the list in a few hours.
stay safe and happy everyone, and i'll see you all again when i
get back in 2 months; of course, i'll see *some* of you while i'm
away - i look forward to it! :)

see y'all at newport!! and stay well (this is a *much* more pleasant
leavetaking than my last one, i can tell you)...
sherlyn

ps - jude hunter, are you out there?  please mail me asap to
let me know if you still want those tapes...
pps - y'all can still mail me here while i'll be away, if for any reason
you need to.  i'll be logging in once in awhile to see how things are
going.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-   sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   "i said now hold me closer, 'cos something's happening.
       why can't we come together?
    she said, 'i doubt, i doubt we ever, ever will again...' "
                                        - amy ray, 'don't give that girl a gun'
=-=-=-   [please note that i will be away from 10/7/96 until 1/9/96.]  -=-=-=

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> a name, is it rach alpert or rach albert? i want to make sure it is

neither, actually. it is rache alpert.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
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subject:      hey, hey, hey..another cover! (or three)

okay, okay....i know you folks are probably sick of reading about the
covers, i stopped reading after the second day of the thread (what
can i say, i've got a short attention span) but i have three perfect
covers.
amy would sing on both...it could be really cool

patty smith's birdland....can't you hear it now : )

patty smith's land....all 9 1/2 minutes of it, amy could even throw
in an soc for good measure

and....

the one and only grateful dead's wharfrat....that would be amazing,
good harmony on the "i'll get up and fly awaaaaay" then a build to
"pearly's been true...." hmmm, what do you think?

well, that's it,

gwen

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subject:      amy + cooper = history?

i read on aol recently that amy and cooper broke
up recently. they have reported seeing cooper at
viva la diva shows with another woman.

do any of you know if that's true?

tsk tsk tsk !

now, now..... that would be none of our business would it ?

miss malbletto

(i understand kathy lee gifford killed an elephant.....how very unfortunate
;)

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subject:      happy birthday! (july 9, 1996)

paa4687@dpsc.dla.mil (paula):
"are you levee'd like a treasure, only words can help me find you
and this world's a fickle measure i would painfully remind you
from a wise man to a red hand you lay covered in our best sins
three hits to the heart, son, and it's poetry in motion"

(_three hits_)

:) :) :)

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lifted and struck."--annie dillard
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subject:      daemone records questions

hi y'all....the little article on daemon records jogged my memory to bring up a
few questions to the list....

first, when the recording contract runs out, any chance a and e might use
daemon as their outlet?

also, what is the general consensus on daemon rceords artists"lay quiet
awhile"? whaddya think? worth investing in or not?

thanks everyone. have a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious tuesday-

susan
(waving hi to corinne...thanks for the tapes sugar bunny)

august 20, 1993 -- the united methodist reporter mission edition

teenagers are 'doing theology' at seminary's summer institute
by elaine justice

when 60 high school students from across the country came to emory's candler
school of theology this summer for the first- ever youth theology institute,
some though the month-long residential program might be like the church
camps they remembered.

they were surprised.

not many camps have students reading and discussing advanced theology and
public policy, doing community service projects, using the latest video
technology to learn bible texts and questioning popular musicians about
their work.

"it wasn't that i expected, which is good," said betsy johnson of atlanta,
one of the handful of georgia students chosen for the institute on the emory
campus.

"i'm learning a lot about the intellectual basis of the christian faith,"
said ms. johnson, a united methodist. "i'm realizing why i chose the
religion i chose and the reasons i support it."

the youth theology institute funded for its first three years by a grant
from the lilly endowment, aims to encourage youths to think about important
life and faith questions, to share their thoughts and to see the world
around them with new eyes, says director don c. richter.

admission to the program is competitive, and tuition, room and board are
paid by the program.

look for the mystery

"immerse yourself," dr. richter told students on their first day. "open your
eyes and ears to the mystery of life, even the mystery of the familiar.
learn something new every day."

and they have, from encountering the homeless to holding after-class
discussions, students have taken the institute and made it their own.

the group had an hour's worth of questions for speaker emily saliers of the
popular singing duo the indigo girls, and her father, the rev. don e.
saliers, professor of theology and worship at candler.

ms. saliers said that music has always been an important part of her life.
as a child, she recalled dressing up with her sisters and performing songs
by the jackson five, her favorite group. mom and dad were always supportive,
she said.

love for music is what drew ms. saliers into making her partnership with
fellow indigo girl amy ray a full time pursuit.

one song that still has great meaning personally to ms. saliers is "prince
of darkness."

"mom and dad raised me with a set of values, but during college i went
through a rebellious period," she said. "the song is about coming back to
the values i grew up with, but this time i knew they were mine."

father and daughter had similar advice for students.

"always tell the truth and be true," said ms. saliers.

dr. saliers encouraged students to "find something for which you are willing
to give your life, that you can believe in passionately over a lifetime."

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> also, what is the general consensus on daemon rceords artists"lay quiet
> awhile"? whaddya think? worth investing in or not?
>
although i think they've split now (anyone conf. ? ) the album i have is
great ( ready to trade ). i saw 'em live supporting a&e and was hooked.
their singer danielle howel (sp?) also tours as support solo artist for
a&e and appears on stage with them from time to time !

jules

someone i know knows someone at sony...ig will be playing large clubs in the
following places...8/12 hampton beach, nh...8/14 nyc...8/15 philly...8/16
lewiston, ny...8/17 norfolk, va..8/18 dc...then 8/20 austin, etc. through
sw...the new record starts 9/1...

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reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      ig finally! the tour of my dreams!
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              "cinglew@aol.com" at jul 9, 96 10:18:06 am

ok...
taking time off for newport, may go down, may not , but if anyone wants to
hit newport on sunday, and is going from boston, let me know, if anyone also
wants to hit hampton beach, nh (the venue will be the casino ballroom -- i
believe a ticketmaster venue, ) let me know! be very very psyched for this
show since my chance to meet a ton of people @ the furthur fest got screwed
up because my friend's car died on the way down. i had passes for photos
and backstage...it was raining all day, so it may have been for the
best..but the ig...that rocks!
mike r

>
> (i understand kathy lee gifford killed an elephant.....how very unfortunate
> ;)
>
this lady has got to start paying attention when she drives.

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 11:24:37 edt
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subject:      questions about the past couple of months

can someone please fill me in privately about some things; what was the set
list at atlanta pride and the new orleans concert... does anyone have boots
of these shows... what is this t-shirt being offered by rob...
and does anyone know if there is a campground *in* newport, and if
sites are still available (yeah right...) i managed to get some overflow
space a town over last year, but i can't count on that happening
again. tomorrow i will post the names and numbers of some nearby
sites if no one else has come up with anything fruitful.
mc

hey y'all!  i know this subject has really been driven into the ground, but i
can't help adding my two cents... i just heard the travis tritt cover of the
eagles' "take it easy" last night, and the whole time i found myself thinking
how cool it would be if amy did a cover of that song ... same way -- really
rockin'.   (not to mention shameless --  "i got seven women on my mind", and
"it's a girl, my lord, in a flat-bed ford, slowin' down to take a look at
me").   i would love to hear her cover this song in concert!  (it would've
been perfect for pride weekend... even though pride weekend was pretty close
to heaven as it was!)       anyway, there's my offering... take it for what
it's worth :)

later,
lisa

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 12:09:46 edt
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subject:      re: that elephant (nigc)
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>
> >
> > (i understand kathy lee gifford killed an elephant.....how very unfortunate
> > ;)
> >
> this lady has got to start paying attention when she drives.

she knew what she was doing. she wanted the tusks to make ivory thank
you gifts for her "young garment workers." ;)

trying to be as offensive as possible,

chris

p.s. for the record, i'm kidding.

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 10:17:11 -0600
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subject:      re: ig late summer tour
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yeah, i heard on my local radio station that ig will be in santa fe "in
the next few months," but they wouldn't be more specific... do you have
santa fe, denver, and other sw dates??? i'm still in shock - but a happy
shock:)

donna

on tue, 9 jul 1996 cinglew@aol.com wrote:

> someone i know knows someone at sony...ig will be playing large clubs in the
> following places...8/12 hampton beach, nh...8/14 nyc...8/15 philly...8/16
> lewiston, ny...8/17 norfolk, va..8/18 dc...then 8/20 austin, etc. through
> sw...the new record starts 9/1...

aaaaaaaaaaahhhh ! does anyone have info on the nyc show ???!?!?!
-- or any of them for that matter.... where where where

sue

hi,

i'm new to the list (nice to meet y'all) and a fairly
recent ig fan (but an avid one all the same). two things:

1.  i checked out sony's ultra-corporate site and they
     have ig pegged at seattle 8/31/96 at seattle centre
     arena.

2.  i am in the toronto, on area and am interested in possibly
     going to the newport concert...i haven't decided yet but
     i would be interested to hear from anyone else who wouldn't
     mind having me tag along (i'll pay my way etc. etc.) who
     is also from toronto (there aren't alot of canadians on this
     list, eh?)  if you could reach me at engd@qucdn.queensu.ca i'd
     appreciate it.

thanks muchly,

>>>hi! i just got a golden retriever puppy and i can't come up with a
>>>cool name? any ideas? thanks!
>>
>>umm, methinks the gender of said puppy is an important piece of info.
>
>not necessarily. my dalmation's name is cooper, which, as cooper seay and
>cooper tisdale can tell you, is a unisex name. and a rather cool one, i
>think (obviously). :)

i think the gender of the dog may add to the possibilities!  dog trainers
have claimed that one syllable names are easier for the dogs to respond to.
not that we all are going to show our dogs or have them <highly> trained...
of course we all should know that a dog really responds to the tone of your
voice  sorry,
this has nigc; i'll be brief! my dog's name is meg. the name has several
meanings to me. "meg" is a soccer term...to meg someone (kick a ball between
someone's legs); as a kid, my best friend was named meg, and meg is one
syllable.
ok, enough; being an ig fan/listener/believer...how about:
        ophie  (ophelia-if it's a girl!)
        gali or leo  (galileo)
        indi   (indigo) duh...everyone thought of that one! i like it.
        blue
you picked a beautiful breed!! let us know what you decide!

stacy and meg (yellow lab)

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
sssssssstacy waterworth

"you never see big dogs wearing sweaters. my neighhbor's dog has a sweater,
but he wears it wrapped around his shoulders...it looks pretty with his eyes."
---ellen degeneres

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwww

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 11:35:15 -0500
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do you know if they are going to be in chicago as well?

whoops...i forgot to mention how to get the info:

    http://www.sony.dreammedia.com
    use the "road runner" button and do a search on
    artists under "i" - the indigo girls link should
    show up and take you to the necessary info.

this site has been a bit flaky as of late, so i can't
guarantee that the above will actually work.

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subject:      ig summer tour

on tue, 9 jul 1996 cinglew@aol.com wrote:

ok so these must be the dates that russell carter was talking about last
weekend when i spoke to him. he said that there would be a telephone
information line with all the dates on it.... does anyone have the number?
there was a number on a fan club news letter some time ago... i'm wondering
if it is the same one.... if so does anyone have it?

sharon

"i can't imagine having separate careers. my greatest fear is that it'll end."
                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

i will seriously wrech if hootie does closer to fine. ugh-excuse me
while i go drink some pepto.
kel
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the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 09:40:49 -0700
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on tue, 9 jul 1996, dennis eng wrote:

>  1.  i checked out sony's ultra-corporate site and they
>      have ig pegged at seattle 8/31/96 at seattle centre
>      arena.

does anyone have info re: when tickets will go on sale and if there any
california concert dates? thanks!!
steffany

at the risk of rustling up some dust, perry has asked me to let everyone
know that he has gotten more ep and more in the store, as well as a few
copies of "in with the out crowd".

he is aware of the controverys that has arisen over this.  please bear
in mind that he is a businessman running a store and he also has to
eat.  the cd-r's that the ep and more is "pressed" on are more expensive
and, yes, more fragile due to how the process is done.  for the scale that
he is getting these at, the limited quantities, they *are* more expensive
all around.  the blank cd's are more expensive than someone thought becuase
of a market shortage which is driving the costs up at the bottom
line.  perry is also donating a portion of the money made on the discs to
a local charity. ther eis no windfall profit being made on this disc
at all.

any questions can be directed to perry, at 1-800-636-6166.

greetings all in indigo land!

i read the post about the ig summer tour and immediatley called the
venue at hampton beach,nh and spoke with several people  the last of
whom said he is in contact with the ig management about this show
daily and they have an offer pending.  he said that he is pretty sure
that this show is going to happen, they are just waiting for a
confirmation from the ig mgmt.  he encouraged me to call back each day
to find out about the shows status and that tickets will also be
available through ticketmaster.  the name of the venue is hampton beach
ballroom casino in hampton beach nh, just over the mass. border.  if
i get any other info i will post it as soon as i can.

i also heard a rumor they might play the iron horse music hall here in
my town of northammpton, ma. that would be so cool. the girls played
it back in 1990, unfortunately i didn't go, but i have seen many shows
here it is a great little club, no more than 200 or so people i would
guess could fit in. if anyone hears about this one please let me know.
take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 13:01:00 edt
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subject:      ig late summer tour

regarding the tour dates:

just another person who wants info....

anyone know if they are coming anywhere near
ohio/indiana/illinois/michigan/kentucky etc? thanks!

amy

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subject:      re: daemon records questions

>> also, what is the general consensus on daemon rceords artists"lay quiet
>> awhile"? whaddya think? worth investing in or not?

>although i think they've split now (anyone conf. ? ) the album i have is
>great ( ready to trade ). i saw 'em live supporting a&e and was hooked.
>their singer danielle howel (sp?) also tours as support solo artist for
>a&e and appears on stage with them from time to time !

>jules

tis true that lay quiet awhile are no more but danielle howle the lead
singer is still going strong. she has two albums available at the moment
"live at mckissick museum" which you can get from daemon records and
"about to burst" which she has just released on her own label mill records.
her new band are called the tantrums. i highly recommend "delicate wire"
the lay quiet awhile album which is also available from daemon records....
i'm not just biased.... it's true that danielle is a friend of mine but she
has an amazing voice and is extremely funny :) so go and buy her albums!!!

sharon

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subject:      ig dates from epic (1st 2 shows)

08/11/1996      newport ri      ft. adams st. park
08/31/1996      seattle wa      seattle center arena
brian d heaton <bheaton@fibr.net> * he who fights the monster, must take care
fibrcom - isg                     * lest he become the monster.  and if you gaze
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v:(210)524-5552 f:(210)524-5099   * also into you --    nietzche

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 12:26:57 cdt
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subject:      ig on the sony web site

if you go to url http://www.music.sony.com/music/musicindex.html, and
search on indigo girls, you'll get a slew of hits. much more then just the
ig sony web page.

- jen hall

as much as i have truly loved reading all your posts, i have to leave the
list for personal reasons. i hope to be back on soon. you've all been so
much fun, this is not easy.

to all of you who are going, have a wonderful time at newport.

to sarah, i'll e-mail you soon about the order, ok?

hugs to every single one of you,
deb

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 13:54:55 -0400
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subject:      re: hootie doing ctf? what?
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if we pride ourselves on beeing open-minded and supposedly do not let
emotions sway us from logical decisions, then as long as it is done with
the level of respect and feeling necessary then why not? i'm a little
squeemish about just everyone doing covers of ig material but then again,
the more ways to expose people to the wonderfull...thought provoking
music we all love so dearly, the better. we have to strive to keep a
balance between getting it out to more people and trivializing our
precious commodity.

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 13:03:43 cdt
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subject:      emily's birthday is coming up...

we need to do an "emily day". her birthday is monday, july 22 and russel
carters is on thursday, july 18.

- jen hall

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 11:04:21 -0700
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subject:      daemon records flyer!!!!!

hey everyone!

if you love daemon records or want to know more about the artists on the
label i have a flyer you may want to have!!!!

the flyer is not made by anyone at daemon, it is an attempt by some fans
of the artists on the label to educate and get more people interested in
the music we love!!!!

this flyer includes feature articles about gerard mchugh, jesus christ
superstar, new mongrels, band de soleil, viva la diva, big fish ensemble,
lay quite awhile, plus lots of other stuff including a handy order form!!!!!!

this flyer provides a lot of cool information about your favorite daemon
artists, reviews of their music, and just lots of neat and helpful
information about daemon artists!

so, how do you get one?

send a sase to:

carrie brogoitti
p.o. box 3907
eugene, or
97403

if this option does not work or you have any questions, contact me to
work out something else!

thanks for listening...carrie

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date:         tue, 9 jul 1996 14:25:00 edt
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subject:      re: emily's birthday is coming up...

i guess she was born under the sign of cancer...

how old will she be, exactly (or is that too personal)?

also, a general question about the list, since i'm relatively new: is there
any indication that either emily or amy have knowledge of the discussion on
here? what are their thoughts, if known? just wondering.

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it's been posted before so i guess it's not too personal...

emily: 22 july 1963
amy: 12 april 1964

ouch! doesn't that make amy an aries? explains a lot! :)

on tue, 9 jul 1996, krisko, amy wrote:

> i guess she was born under the sign of cancer...
>
> how old will she be, exactly (or is that too personal)?
>
> also, a general question about the list, since i'm relatively new:  is there
> any indication that either emily or amy have knowledge of the discussion on
> here?  what are their thoughts, if known?  just wondering.
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subject:      miscellaneouscousc. (sigc)

hello all,

haven't said hi for a while so thought i'd sorta wave hi and catch up.
been listening to various versions of jesus christ superstar lately, and
you know what, i am still really blown away by amy's performance of poor
jerusalem...  the chords and melody for that song are pretty wild
themselves, but there's just something amazing about hearing amy be so
tender with it.  true, her voice gets a little patchy up there singing it
so softly, but for some reason that only makes it more affecting, that
she's willing to be *so* vulnerable on that passage...  goose bumps. =)

hey, remember when kristen hall dropped by the list six months ago and
took questions, and she said she was all excited about this new album she
was finishing up? does anyone know when it's coming out? i've been
looking all over the place and haven't figured it out yet. i want it, i
want it, i want it!

and one more thing, i'm so excited... as of this morning, my plaid tape
and new demo e.p. are available for purchase from rainy day records!
perry is _so_cool_, he has been mega-supportive and encouraging to me...
this is just too great, i can't get over it...

i also need to thank all of you, oh list members, for your general support
as well, both music-related, and random daily kindness. you guys have
really kept me going during some very confusing times, whether you've
known it or not, so thank you all very sincerely!

(oh, and if anyone else wants a dub of the plaid album, the offers's still
open until i move in a few weeks... drop a tape and a sase to me at 704
campus drive #13c, stanford, ca 94305. i'm a little swamped lately from
life in general, but i'll dub them as fast as i can. *grin*)

peace, love, and it's only life after all. yeah.

scot

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first off aaaaahhhhhhh. the one summer in my life when i am lucky enough
to leave new hampshire and i'm going to miss both nff and ig in hampton.
not to anyone going to hampton, it gets very, very hot in that place so
wear light clothing.
next, emily's b-day, this is just an idea, but on the billy joel network
we sent him a giant b-day card, sorta, anyone who wanted sent a small
message to someone who printed it out and mailed it to him.
amy

i have been on the phone with ticketmonster every day for the past two
weeks trying to determine when tickets would go on sale. yesterday i
finally got out of them that it should be the first week of august. i
will keep calling every day to get specifics... in the meanwhile, a word
about bumbershoot.

several people have been asking what bumbershoot is.  bumbershoot (meaning
umbrella) is the annual arts and music festival that kicks off the end of
seattle summer (and presumably, the coming of the rains, although we don't
usually get rain again until october...).  it happens over friday-sunday
(the first weekend of sept. or the last of aug.) at the seattle center,
which is a large commercial park built for world expo 1962, including the
arena, the colisseum, the space needle, the center house, the seattle
reperatory theatre, the opera house, the children's museum....i'm probably
forgetting something, but the idea is that it's a pretty big area, and a
huge event.  the opera house, the colisseum and the arena are usually
where the big music gigs happen, and the other buildings house graphic art
exhibits.  the grounds of the seattle center is covered with food stands,
most of which are pretty good since they are put up by seattle's plethora
of yuppie and/or ethnic resturaunts (lots of vegetarian food) but quite
pricey.

the main idea of bumbershoot is that you pay an entrance fee (i think it's
up to $12 now) and get into all the exhibits and music for the day.  the
reality is that this fee gets you into the music that is not headlining,
but you have to stand in line to get in.  to give you an idea, if you want
to be first in (for whatever reason) you can expect to stand in line an
average of 3 hours.  the last show i saw at bumbershoot was violent
femmes; i was near the end of the line and stood about an hour.  if you go
with other people, one person can stand in line while someone else gets
some food for you.  the shows that you can get into without a separate
ticket will be michelle malone, caroline aiken, maybe ani difranco, and
most of the other artists there; but, they will probably not be all on the
same day, so you'll have to get into bumbershoot more than once to see
them; also, i think ani is playing on the 31st, which is when ig is
playing, and they might be at the same time.  we won't know these details
until a few weeks before the event.  for the headliners (so far i know of
ig and elvis costello, who sold out already) you get a ticketmonster
ticket and that means you get in, but you still probably have to stand in
line if you want to be in front.

i will post the entire event's lineup when i get ahold of it.  in the
meanwhile, i hope this wasn't too much info or repetition for any
non-northwesterners out there.  the take-home message is this:  even if
you don't get tickets to ig, bumbershoot is lots of fun, but start saving
your pennies now because at a minimum you can expect to spend $30 a day
not including ig tickets.  i would like to see lots of listers there!  it
should be loads of fun.  it's also a great time of year to visit seattle.
hope this helps a bit...you'll hear more from me soon.  i'm also
informally keeping track of listers who plan to go, so if you think you'll
go you can email me and i'll put your name on our list...

*************************************************************************
"when you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. live your life in
such a way that, when you die, the world cries and you rejoice."--chief
seattle

******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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subject:      utah:some history-nigc

hey fabulous list!

this post is for anyone that has been participating in or reading the "bash
utah" thread.

i know everyone is sick to death of hearing about utah, as am i, but
i live here and i am mormon, and i am also a listee, and so i
wanted to make one small point.
do you know why utah has such a large percentage of mormons? because
after the religion was founded in the east,  members were persecuted so
harshly (ie: burnings, massacre's, evictions, etc) that utah
territory was designated by the government to get them out of the
way.  if you want to have a discussion about intolerance and hatred,
our founder, joseph smith, was murdered by a mob of bigots after being
imprisoned  for several months in illinois.
yeah, mormons have their prejuduices, just like everybody else. and
yeah, utah is strongly influenced by mormon culture, a culture that
values family and the elevation of the human spirit above all else. i
am sorry for people who are so caught up in asserting themselves
that they feel threatened by us, but i assure you, i am one
mormon/utahn/byu student who will die before i would deny
their individual rights, including their right to be gay. so can we
please just acknowledge that utah has its problems and it's good
points and get over our victimhood?

not a flame, and not directed to anyone in particular....just
something i wanted to say..

jody
(hi sarah!)
************
"there are three kinds of people
in this world. those who can count,
and those who can't."
************

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subject:      more igs for a novice
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hi-

i'm new to this list and am interested in getting more ig stuff than is
availible at the majors.  please excuse my ignorance as i ask what is _ep and
more_ and _in with the out crowd_?  are they cds with all igs or collections
of several artists?  and how would i get the copys...call perry at the 800 #?

also what else is availible? and how would pursue obtaining more tapes or
cd's?

i appreciate the assistance.

thanks

michelle

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subject:      ig in a dream..... er sorta

howdy y'all,

so last night, after hearing that ig was on the road to austin!!!! (and =
yes i am excited!!!) i had my first dream about ig.... actually it =
wasn't a very good dream... more like a nightmare..... a really, really =
bad nightmare...

here it goes:

my friends and i are driving out to the backyard for the ig concert. we =
are all very excited. the weather is beautiful (the backyard is an =
outdoor venue), a bit of a cold front had moved in, dropping the =
temperature to about 75 degrees. we park and go in. we are early so we =
get great seats. start running into lot's of people i know. everyone is =
happy. there is a curtain across the stage. taped music is playing some =
unfamiliar tunes. the taped music stops. an announcer says "ladies and =
gentlemen, please welcome the indigo girls"... the curtains part and =
there is not a single guitar on stage....... none... no bass.... no =
drums... no guitars.... just amy and emily and 2 synthesizers.... and =
they start playing those darn gizmos... sounding like a really lame =
version of depeche mode....

at this point i woke up screaming!

god save us all!!

dan perkins

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bravo jody...thanks for kicking in that little piece of clarity.it is up to
us all as human beings to see past our differences to see how much we are
alike.respect is definately a mirror of what you reflect to others.and i
thank you from the list for giving us all a little reality check about that.i
am sure the indigo girls would approve..even if you didn't cover concert
dates in your missive.(lol)......thinking this afternoon that
t-o-l-e-r-a-n-c-e
is not a four
letter word...laurabell

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subject:      fw: on the road to austin!!!

howdy y'all,

just heard last night indigo girls will be at the backyard in austin, =
texas on tuesday august 20th!!!!!!!!!!! tix go on sale saturday july =
20th, i don't have pricing info yet...

if anyone is planning for sure on coming to this show, e-mail me. i =
would like to have some folks to go with and none of my friends are ig =
fans....

needless to say, i have had a severe case of supreme euphoria all =
day!!!!!!

peace and love y'all

dan perkins

hi everyone....

i missed you over the holiday last week, and am still wading through
all the posts, so if this is a little repetitive i apologize...but i just had
to
share my excitement and receiving my no jazzfest tapes (thanks kelly!!)

does anyone out there think that shame on you sounds like a
bruce springsteen song?  i saw some discussion about bruce, in
the cover discussion.  i had no idea there were other bruce fans out
there.  i just have to say i am with all of you- you kindred bruce folks.
i have listened to bruce since 7th grade- and know all the words....even
put a quote from thunder road in my yearbook senior page (even
when it was not cool to do so), wrote english papers about independence
day and the river.

ok, so anyway,  back to amy.....i have had the 5/4 no jazz tape in the
tape deck all day in the car...and i couldn't shake the feeling that "shame
on you" reminds me of some other song,  and i couldn't place it, but finally
after a couple times through of listening just to soy...i think it's
bruce...and
specifically what *really* reminds me of bruce are all the sha la la las and
the line about seeing all the beautiful women walk by, and not knowing what
to say...( reminds me of sheri darling "well the girls are melting on the
beach,
there so fine but so out of reach...)  a belts that out in a very bruce
way.....
could it be that a listens to bruce too?????

also - i just have to say too that i love the harmonica on the songs and
emily's banjo playing...i really hope that there's some more of each on
new ig recordings. i know some people a while back mentioned how the
lyrics of em's new songs sound sad....and i have to disagree a bit, because
the banjo behind the lyrics of get out the map make the song much more
upbeat.  it seems much more like a southern, genre type song, with sort of
sad  lyrics with happier music.  could be just me,but the new songs, seem
much more like music for music sake, than any sophisticated artistic
statement like those songs on so.  i love ig and am not criticizing...
i just love how they always do new stuff...and the best part is how they
let themselves just do what they feel is right...the songs
sound like they are products of rest and time away from music....so
whatever....the new stuff is refreshing and i can't wait for more new music..

thanks to all who helped put the no jazz tapes together.
gotta run...

take care,
dana

"i was timid and subservient....i didn't go far" e. sailers

hi ya'll!

question...where is the best place to send a + e's shirts too? russell
carter? i want to be sure they get the shirts...so ......if anyone has any
insight...let me know!
thanks
rob augino

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subject:      96 shirt final list of who's getting a shirt!  everyone read!!!!!!
x-to:         indigo@clark.net, lwarren531@aol.com, scady@umich.edu,
              poohgrl816@aol.com, aneeza@cse.fau.edu

if you are not listed on this list, a shirt has not been ordered for you and
there is no longer a possibility of getting a shirt.

this is it!!!  the following names are "anticipated orders"  that are in
transit..and i have ordered your shirts....while your order arrives in the
next day or two.  if you are not listed here....  a shirt was not ordered for
you.  if at the end of sending all shirts out, there are some leftover..i
will make them available.  ok, the list of latecomers....... (even though i
swore i wouldn't do this :))
heat 2 xl
amy jenson 1 l 1 xl
minida dowdy 1 xxl
tami waters 1 xl 1 l
melissa (sweet pea) 1 xxl 2 xl
jen lucero 1 xl
susan marine 1 xl
michelle lattanzio 1 xxl
elizabeth meadows 1 xl 1 xxl
larissa brown 1 xl
jan 1 xl
denise mcquire 1 l
amy krisko 1 xxl
sarah 1 xl
ok, that is it for the orders not yet arrived..but ordered.  if you aren't
there and your order is in the mail.....i am sorry :)

now for the confirmed orders list!  thanks to all of you who got your orders
in by the deadline!  i really appreciate that!  it really saves alot of
headaches :)  this list is exactly what is being ordered...so what is listed
here is what is being ordered.  if something is wrong...don't even tell
me...i have been posting it forever so that everyone could double check their
order :)  thanks!  here ya go!

amy mednick 1 xxl
jeni saulino 1 xl
laura rice 1 xl
steven reynolds 1 xl
kirsten chevalier 1 xl
greg flamer 1 xl
lisa savu 1 xl
gwen drueger 1 l
randy rohrer 2 xxl
brian harvey 2 xl
camille kearl 2 xxl 1xl
connie tsuchiya 1 l
joan ferguson 1 xl
kristina - 1 xxl
derek moulaison 1 xl
diane krause 1 xl
craig haskins 1 xl 1 xxl
jen holt 1 xl
sharon james 1 xl
whit kuhn 1 xl
lisa winters 1 l
daniel tsang 1 l
sherlyn koo 1 l
sandy robinette 1 xl
sarah street 1 xl
trant batey 1 xl
rob augino 1 xl
maren mitchell 1 xl
dana carlson 1 xl
deb hanrahan 1 xl 1 xxl
sunny bueck 1 xl
marilyn macvey 1 xl
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sheri yamada 1 xl 1 xxl
stacy sheperson 1 xl
corinne simpson 1 xl
cyndi johnson 1 xl 2 xxl
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derek duncan 1 xl
gwen keyt 1 xl
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rena shear 1 xl
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chris becker 2 xl
stacy waterworth 1 xl
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kat kohara 1 xl
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tiffany hein 2 xl
karen robinson 1 xxl
julie goldman 1 xl
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amy snyder 1 xl
dwayne jarrell 1 xl
christine chambus 3 xl
jasmine ma 2 l
aneeza agha 1 l
rosie swartz 1 xxl
kellie deis 1 xl
marcy goldstein 2 xxl
cylinda parga 1 xl
joe hamilton 1 xl
elaine mccracken 1 l
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lisa lewis 1 l 1 xl
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eileen mulligan 1 xl
deb reiser 2 xl 2 l
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carol finlayson 1 xl
emily graves 1 l
sarah wardrop 2 xl
steve moore 1 xxl
janine boyer 1 l
rob hite 1 xxl
phil norman 1 xl
hope wisneski 1 xl
ruth frobe 1 l 1 xl
karen duncan 1 xl
marie rowe 1 xl
pam beavers 2 xl
kim hugo 1 l
heather borsum 1 l
susan guardino 2 l
kevin minoli 1 l
kater-w 1 l
melissa gordon 2 xxl
shelly moore 1 xxl
jason sled 1 xl
katy wischow 4 xl
cathy haslam 1 l
r. johnson 1 xl
lorie driscoll 1 xl
tracy weeks 1 l 1 xl
andrew bissaro 1 xxl
judy shabry 1 l 1 xl 1 xxl
harry keates 1 xl
alexandria ogilvie 1 xxl
sarah andrews 1 xl
bente-lill gillingsrud 2 xl
carrie hamblen 1 xl 1 xxl
claudia vaessen 3 l 1 xl
nicole harrison 2 xl
kate urmeneta 1 xl
michelle paddy1 l
lisa mayne 1 xxl
lisa irving 1 xl
sue steinike 1 xl
courtney wright 1 xl
renee grebe 1 l
emily kulesza 1 l
susan hetherington 1 xl
neil johnson 1 xxl
brian heaton 2 xl
amy ray 1 xl
emily saliers 1 xl
196 shirts will be ordered!!!!!
pat yourselves on the back! we did a great job!!!!! i will keep everyone
updated on the progress of the shirts as they are printed and packaged!

thanks everyone for your support!
take care
rob augino
http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/robspage.htm

dana wrote...
>ok, so anyway, back to amy.....i have had the 5/4 no jazz tape in the
>tape deck all day in the car...and i couldn't shake the feeling that "shame
>on you" reminds me of some other song, and i couldn't place it, but finally
>after a couple times through of listening just to soy...i think it's
>bruce...and
>specifically what *really* reminds me of bruce are all the sha la la las and
>the line about seeing all the beautiful women walk by, and not knowing what
>to say...

personally i think amy was on that beach "kicking back with some margs" (as
my friend john would say) ala jimmy buffet. that's what i hear.

deb

does anyone know anything about
indigo girls(mastersound-jewel case)
release date: 12/02/1994
??????
i just read about it on the sony page and i never heard of it before... can
someone turn on the light in my head??
thanx
tiff-in-a-dark-place

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subject:      a temporary goodbye, and a request (nigc)

first, i'm going to be away for the next 4-6 weeks in a place that may or
may not have internet access. if i don't answer your mail, it's not just
because i don't like you (although it doesn't mean i like you, either :-)).
second, i will need someone to manage the birthday list for the rest of
july and august. if anyone would like to, please contact me asap!
kirsten

hi again,

just me again, writing to ask another quesiton....
i remember reading in one of the articles posted
the past few weeks that when ig signed with epic they
had an 8 record deal....well there's been 8 (if you count 12000
curfews twice): sf, ig, nis, boby, rop, so, 1200 curfews.
so where does that leave ig with epic (not to be nosy)....i am
just curious how the whole record deal industry thing works.

also, don't labels have their own personality/reputation....
i have no clue about this stuff...what is epic known for, and
columbia? is it mainly which artists are signed on each...are
there only country labels...i know just from buying stuff...that
rounder is mainly a folk label, right?

i know this is extraneous stuff, but i have many
questions, and figured i'd throw 'em out there to see
what happens....

thanks again! any info will be much appreciated.
-dana

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that would be the gold copy of the self titled cd i do believe
hugs anthonyv anpyre

on tue, 9 jul 1996, tiffany wrote:

> does anyone know anything about
> indigo girls(mastersound-jewel case)
> release date: 12/02/1994
> ??????
> i just read about it on the sony page and i never heard of it before... can
> someone turn on the light in my head??
> thanx
> tiff-in-a-dark-place
>
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wow, how did i miss that??? i just was on the sony page and i saw the thingy
about an indigo girls screensaver with tmf(yaay!! they picked a goodie!) can
anyone point me in the direction of where i can find it?? (i apologize if
this has been discussed before--just throw something at me and i'll shutup. :)
tiffany

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in a message dated 96-07-09 19:54:27 edt, slugger@prolog.net (tiffany)
writes:

<< wow, how did i miss that??? i just was on the sony page and i saw the
thingy
about an indigo girls screensaver with tmf(yaay!! they picked a goodie!) can
anyone point me in the direction of where i can find it?? (i apologize if
this has been discussed before--just throw something at me and i'll shutup.
:)
tiffany

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getcher screensavers! we gotcha screensavers!!! :) :)

i found mine at best buy for a whopping 4 bucks!!!!!!!!!! i've also seen 'em
at...ummm
i can't remember. :) best buy near my place didn't have any more ig if i
remember correctly. i think they were down to like, barry manillow and lionel
richie. or something. :)

rick
*when i say you sucked my brain out the english translation is i am in love
with you and it is no fun
i don't use words like love cuz words like that don't matter but don't look
so offended
you know you should be flattered* -ani
*i ain't gonna kill myself loving you, i ain't gonna break my own heart*
-edie
*but it comes to mind as you blaze on as brilliant as a star
how many you've left behind, how many casualties you are* -the goddess emily

personally, i think if em had written language or the kiss and submitted it
to kellog to be printed on a cereal box and was it was read by a
composer/promoter and chosen for the song of the century (soc:) and ...
whaaa, what else is there ? i think i would have loved it and the world is
surely under informed, all those who have never had a chance to hear it...i
want to light their torch....maybe this year :)

jude :)

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hi again all,

someone just asked me if i knew kristen hall's "just so you know." think
i've figured out the be careful what you wish for version (haven't heard
real life stuff, so don't know if the two version are the same...)

but anyway, thought some of you guitarists might be interested. here tis:

just so you know kristen hall

this song is in f, but is played d with a capo on =3=. i'll write the
chords as if it were d... ------------------

opening riff:

e--2-0-2-0---
b--3-3-3-3---
g--2-2-2-0--- (played twice.)
d--0-0-0-2---
a--------0---
e--------0---

verse chord progression:

d f#m7 f em aadd2
e--2---2---0---0---1---1---0---0---
b--3---3---2---2---1---1---0---0---
g--2---2---2---2---2---2---0---2---
d--0---0---4---4---3---3---2---2---
a----------4---4---3---3---2---0---
e----------2---2---1---1---0---0---

that f#m7 is a real pain, i use my thumb on the bottom string, i'm not
very good at those nasty partial bar chords! =) verse ends with a d chord
(and a little 3-2-0---0-2 ornament on the high e string), then into the
chorus progression:

a2 bm a g a2 bm a g g /f# em7 a7
e--0---------2--0--3--------0--------2--0--3--------3--3--3-------3--
b--0---------3--2--3--------0--------3--2--3--------3--3--3-------2--
g--2---------4--2--0--------2--------4--2--0--------0--0--0-------0--
d--2---------4--2--0--------2--------4--2--0--------0--0--2-------2--
a--0---------2--0--2--------0--------2--0--2--------2--x--2-------0--
e------------------3-----------------------3--------3--2--0----------

...and back into the verse, at the very end finishing up with the same
little pattern as the intro.

peace

scot

so....i been out in the woods countin' those trees and listening
to the new ig songs and thinkin' alot, and i have come up
with a couple of profundities....

first : ar's new song "shame on you" is a great song
and if it doesn't get into the top 10, the system is corrupt...
this is a killer summer song, and with the helms burton act
and other anti-imigrant issues abounding, i think that now
would be a great time to release it as a single. i thought i
picked up a post that ig was looking at a fall release on the
new cd. if so, that would be way cool... the new tv season
would just be kicking off then and the timing would be great
for a promo shot on snl...and "soy" would fit right in with
the fall elections :)

second: it occured to me that ig isn't touring the first part
of the summer perhaps because ( besides the obvious...like
they deserve a break...) the olympics are gonna be in atlanta
and they wanna go !!! ( i would :)

well...my brain hurts from thinkin' so i gotta go.

love !
contessa binkclaria

" and the white folks like to pretend it's not but there's music in the
air..."
ar (oooh la la la !)

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>as for the rules about not talking about personal lives,
>let's see what happens if we "break" them.

lets see what happens if we break them? it's called letting them
have their private lives..

hey, y'all-what exactly did beavis and butthead say? i missed it.

kel
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subject:      kirsten and the birthday list (nigc)

hey- i can't get through to kirsten, for some reason her system is
erroring or something. anyway, did she find someone to do the birthday
list? i will do it if she didn't. kirsten, if you are still here, let
me know and i'll do it. thanks. kel
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> >as for the rules about not talking about personal lives,
> >let's see what happens if we "break" them.
>
> lets see what happens if we break them? it's called letting them
> have their private lives..

there have been times i've wanted to post something to the list and
decided not to because it was too personal -- and i grumbled a bit about
it. but i remind myself that a+e know this list exists and they have found
it a bit troubling there is a 24 hour discussion going on about them.
they have said they would prefer we keep the discussion limited to their
music and away from their personal/private lives. water is right, we have
to respect them and give them their privacy. would you really want an
internet list that consisted of 800+ people to discuss your love life?
*shudder*

if you want to gossip about a+e then call or email your friend and
transmit all the rumours you want, nobody is going to stop you. i am
guilty of doing this, nobody is totally immune to it. but please respect
amy and emily enough not to do it on such a global scale. :) thanks...

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subject:      ig on...cmt?????

i don't believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  i have the tv tuned to cmt's "club dance"
(strictly for background noise, i assure you).  a minute ago, i was in the other room
when i heard the announcer say something about ig.  so,  i darted into the living
room to find the people on the show line dancing to hammer and a nail!!!!!
who'da thunk it???  must be an ig fan working in the programming department!!!

peace, love and line dancing ig-style, (still shaking my head in disbelief)

joan :p

in a message dated 96-07-09 19:34:14 edt,tiff writes:

do you think they could mean the gold master cd version
of the "indigo girls" cd ? these were dubbed from the master tapes
and on super duper extra special cd stuff. reputed to have
ultra fine sound quality :) i got one (24 smackers) and i think it
sounds clearer...i heard on the list that one needs an "high end"
stereo system (extra 'spensive) to really notice.

that makes me wonder...what kind of stereos do you suppose
pro musicians like...oh..lets saaay...emily saliers or amy ray
own ????? sony bookshelf models($500< like mine !) perhaps ???
i'd be interestded in knowing what the pros get, ya know ?
as if i could afford it.
love !
popo

so ...these are the new songs as far as i can tell.....(titles unconfirmed)

1) shame on you (a)
2) chiapas bound (a) (sounded unfinished @ nojf hmmm...)
3) problem child (a)
4) don"t give dat grrrl a gun (a)
5) cut it out (?) (a)
6) git out da map (e)
7) goin up to the countreeeee (e)
8) pray my way around it (e) (my personal favorite next to soy:)
9) blood quantum (a & e -woooo !-) ( killer song !!!!)

hey !!!! thats almost enough for a new album !!!!
(heh, heh, heh...)
well...they put nashville on rop...maybe they could revisit
"high horse" (ya know...i really like that one :)
that leaves four more songs to go...hmmmmm

popo

"where you goin' ?"
"on my merry way..."

laura nyro "the cat song'

hello all!
the sony site (w/ ig tour info, posted by someone earlier) has ig
appearing at the seattle center arena.

pollstar (http://www.pollstar.com) has them appearing at memorial
stadium (also on the seattle center site).

the date is still the same: aug. 31

which venue? both? :) only ticketmaster knows.....

and they aren't sayin'........

ann

(i'm there!)

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subject:      amy + cooper = history

i'm the one who started this thread on the board.

it was started because i past on what i heard and
i wondered if it was true. amy and emily have asked us
to respect their personal lives and i do.

i respect it by trying to learn the truth!!

if i can't find truth on this board where can i?

when i become a fan of someone, i can't check my curiosity
at the door.  at the same time, i don't sell this
information, i don't hide in bushes with a camera hoping to
make a quick buck.  i have no desire to know their home
addresses or personal phone numbers.  i live in los angeles,
and i've seen reporters and photographers act like crooks to
get their stories...

"are they coming for us with cameras or guns,
we don't know which, but we've gotta run..." -amy ray

amy and emily have made me care about their music, every
once in a while, i can't help caring about them. learning
the truth and passing it along is how i show i care!

"crazy game, i never should have started to play,
now you couldn't tear me away." -emily saliers

asking for the truth isn't alwasy easy, but we can't be
afraid to ask. at the same time, when we learn the truth,
we have to be responsible with it...i'm trying to be
responsible.

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subject:      ok an idea ( a bit long but worth it )

ok then ladies and gents ....

... just before they take me to the field and shoot me i have had an
idea, i blame the decaff coffee !!! and the mornin' traffic !

what with all of the covers talk going on down here i thought it might be
groovy ( there's word i don't use often )to put together a tape of
existing covers. i'd like to make this a tape of hard to get covers and
have therefor discounted the 1200c covers etc .. though alternative
versions do count. i have purple parrott also ( which has a few gems !!
i'd like to try and make this the kinda tape of songs that were thrown
into the middle of sets but a live rendiditon of r&j is a must.

i have progressed this to a state in my mind where i have a title and
artwork idea.

all offers of tunes and help are kindly accepted ( jude are you out there
! )

to start off i have a live rendition of melissa and daddy's all gone from
an interview disc. i only dubbed the tunes, can one of you kind souls
please give me the source of these for liner notes !!

i'd also like a copy of mona lisa's and mad hatters.

i feel this may turn into a two part tape !

jules

i told you what i feel most
and you kept it like a ghost... forever
amy ray

".....a certain sign of quality or class in art is.... when i read, see or listen to
something, i suddenly get an acute, clear feeling that somebody's formulated
something which i've experienced or thought; exactly the same thing but with the
help of a better sentence or better visual arrangement or better composition of
sounds than i could ever have imagined....."
-- (krzysztof) kieslowski on kieslowski, faber & faber

good grief, hunter! when i read that maudlin crap this morning all i could
think of was this quote by...yeah, krzysztof :)

>".....a certain sign of quality or class in art is.... when i read, see or
>listen to something, i suddenly get an acute, clear feeling that somebody's
>formulated something which i've experienced or thought; exactly the same
>thing but with the help of a better sentence or better visual arrangement or
>better composition of sounds than i could ever have imagined....."
> -- (krzysztof) kieslowski on
>kieslowski

please take it easy on the bootleg stuff :)

hi,

you know, if i had not seen all the other nigc postings, i would never
have done this. you all seem to be pretty open minded though. i am a
guest poet on the alienflower poetry workshop this week, and would like
to know what you guys think. i figure, who better to get feedback from,
than my fellow list buddies. here is the url to the site. the list of
poets is near the bottom of the page. thanks!!!!

http://www.sonic.net/web/albany/workshop/

chris payne owen4@adnc.com
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"there's a thin line between pleasin' yourself,
and pleasin' somebody else"

-ig-

sorry to waste everyone else's time with this, but.....

vicky imparato, you sent me a blank and a sase (with no note) and i
have absolutly no idea what i'm supposed to be taping for you. please let
me know.

--sunny

i have no idea about the background on these two...i don't think
i should or want to know.

all of us on this list (assumedly) are fans of ig music, music
that has (to some degree) shared the dreams, fears, and
hopes of both a+e. i don't think i know of any other musicians
who have offered so much of themselves in their music...

so at the very least we can give them their private lives in
return for all they've given us.

no flame or anything, and perhaps i'm even rambling - i think i
need to go get my morning coffee! have a nice day y'all!

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subject:      re: new ig songs

okay, i'm totally uninformed, but....

where do you guys get these new songs????? i am dying to know so i can have
copies!!! thanx...

amy

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subject:      nigc (kind of)

howdy folks!

    a little info about me : ).  i am a white, straight, male.  i was
raised (and still consider myself) roman catholic.  i know that
statement will send up red flags for a lot of people, but don't let
you opinion or image of the religion as a whole cloud your opinion of
the individual members.  i have never considered myself homophobic,
but i realize that my views towards all people are much more
accepting the more i learn. (i'm just about to start my last year of
college.)  i have a few (probably more than i realize) friends who
are gay (male and female).  my question is to the list as a whole,
but feel free to respond privately if you think your comments warrent
it.

what (in your opinion) do gay people (or the gay community) want more
from society? acceptance or tolerance?

wouldn't acceptance be the most ideal.  wouldn't it be better for
people to say "i accept people of all sexual orientations." rather
than "i think gay and bi-sexual people are wrong (going to hell,
unnatural, etc, etc.), but i will tolerate them."?  or does it
matter?  i guess it may depend on your definition of tolerance.  does
tolerance mean no more job or social discrimination?  or mearly a
"don't ask, don't tell" type of attitude?

does my question make any sense? i'm afraid my written communication
is not as good as it could be.

this letter is not meant to offend anyone in any way! i am just
trying to educate myself on what some of the people around me may or
may not be feeling about this type of thing.

i love you all,

-jason

p.s.
ok folks, the slang contraction for 'you all' should be spelled
ya'll, not y'all. (just a little pet peeve)

"when you learn to love yourself,
you will dissovle all the stones that are cast" - amy ray

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date:         wed, 10 jul 1996 11:34:58 -0400
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from:         amy mednick <amy1@alpeng.com>
subject:      (nigc) - what this gay person wants
x-to:         jsledd@loki.berry.edu

tolerance or acceptence? neither. who cares? i don't care what anybody
thinks. i just want the same legal rights everybody else already has and i
am constitutionally entitled to.

i've actually seen this before....same channel, same song. i doubt they have
played it twice, so you were propably watching a repeat.....

kate

>
> tolerance or acceptence? neither. who cares? i don't care what anybody
> thinks. i just want the same legal rights everybody else already has and i
> am constitutionally entitled to.
>
i have to dissagree with this.  it is not clear that the constitution protects
homosexuality, even though it should.  and for the provisions of the
constitution to be extended to homosexuals.  homosexuality has to not only be
tolerated, but accepted. so, by saying that you want your constitutional rights,
you are in effect saying you demand to be accepted. imo.

trant

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perfect. what more can be said!!!
----------
from: owner-indigo-girls
to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject: (nigc) - what this gay person wants
date: wednesday, july 10, 1996 11:34am

tolerance or acceptence? neither. who cares? i don't care what anybody
thinks. i just want the same legal rights everybody else already has and i
am constitutionally entitled to.

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subject:      http://rainy.com
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well all.. it's what you've all been waiting for.. *finally* after several
months of not existing, the folks at rainy day records now have their site,
back up.. and its better than before.. more detailed, pictures of the
store, better listings of merchandise, and artists they have in stock,
etc... go check this out!! and it's easy to remember too---

http://rainy.com

remember-- as jeff says:: rainy day records-- it's not just a store, its a
way of life :)

take care

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subject:      re: (nigc) - what this gay person wants
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howdy folks..

i
find it especially silly that when i thanked a fellow list member for her
clarity about her own life i was attacked as being a mormon myself.too many
assumptions flying around here..as i have been out for 24 years at this
point.i just know from my own experience that i must be a mirror of tolerance
to all and hope that is the reflection i get back.it takes a lot of hope but
i refuse to let my mind close up in a tight little hate ball.i am suprised
that i would have to explain this for this particular group of people,but i
will as it is my duty on this planet to stand up and be a light.
if the world is
night..shine my life like a light are the words i think.

laurabell

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              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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x-to:         jsledd@loki.berry.edu

>what (in your opinion) do gay people (or the gay community) want more
>from society? acceptance or tolerance?
to begin with, i don't think you can make a generalization about what "gay
people" or "the gay community" wants, since gay people are individuals (wow
, just like straight people!) with their own individual hopes, dreams, and
ideals, and there is no single "gay community". some individuals work for
tolerance, and others work for full acceptance. the latter group are
usually called 'radicals' and were more prevalent in past decades than they
are now, although they still exist. however, i think most people, both gay
and straight-but-not-narrow, would probably agree that while tolerance is
the most practical goal to work for in the short-term, acceptance is really
what everyone wants in the end, in the ideal society that we all want to
see. after all, it's human nature to want to be fully accepted as human beings
.
just my $0.02.
kirsten

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subject:      caroline aiken bootleg may 12 available

hello everyone...i taped a caroline aiken show on may 12 at the canal
st. tavern (with her permission) in dayton, oh, and would like to offer
it to anyone who wants it for a tape and sase...here's the set list

haul off and kiss me, my there for me guitar, i won't tell you, love
ain't going nowhere, white house blues, walk each other home (i'm trying
to confirm this title), 40,000 yrs (traffic cover...not sure of this
title either...anyone?) high and mighty living, oh to be god, that's
what i heard, mission of angles, instrumental/miracles, going fishing,
soft one

it's a 90 minute tape, and if you want it, just email me, and i'll send
my address...

rebecca
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michelle shocked

"the world was meant for me, don't bury me"
amy ray

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subject:      totallly nigc!!! just semantics....

jason wrote:

p.s.
ok folks, the slang contraction for 'you all' should be spelled
ya'll, not y'all. (just a little pet peeve)

--- end of quoted material ---

*** sorry jason, but i think not. the slang contraction" y'all" is correct. i
even found it in my dictionary!!!
when one uses the contraction y'all they are using the shortened version of
"you all", not "ya all".

just my .02.
a former resident of kentucky,
susan

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hey y'all.. along the same lines, for anyone in virginia, caroline aiken is
doing 3 dates in southwestern va next week::

18 july- the bridge club, moneta, va *with radar rose*
19 july- the full moon cafe, roanoke, va
20 july- the coffee pot, roanoke, va *opening for radar rose*

i'm pretty sure this is just her w/o her band..

take care

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>to begin with, i don't think you can make a generalization about what "gay
>people" or "the gay community" wants, since gay people are individuals (wow
>, just like straight people!) with their own individual hopes, dreams, and
>ideals, and there is no single "gay community".

        there is no single gay community???  what do you call what i saw at
atlanta pride then?  i strongly believe that there is a gay community, and
though we are all individuals we must come together as a group and work
together for not just tolernace.. i.e. my mother tolerates my queerness, but
i'm sure that she would not see me and a gf in the same light as she sees my
brother and his gf.. but acceptance.. i.e. my father would see no differance
between my relationships and my brother's relationships...  can you imagine
saying, in this day and age.. "i *tolerate* african americans?  no, you
would not.. and i would not either..  i do not call myself a radical, i call
myself a human being who happens to be a woman who loves women.. i am a gay
human being who should not just be tolerated....  i do not tolerate straight
people, i accept them fully in my life as my friends, my coworkers, and my
family, and i expect to been seen in the same light.

take care

some individuals work for
>tolerance, and others work for full acceptance. the latter group are
>usually called 'radicals' and were more prevalent in past decades than they
>are now, although they still exist. however, i think most people, both gay
>and straight-but-not-narrow, would probably agree that while tolerance is
>the most practical goal to work for in the short-term, acceptance is really
>what everyone wants in the end, in the ideal society that we all want to
>see. after all, it's human nature to want to be fully accepted as human beings
>.
>just my $0.02.
>kirsten
>
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>lifted and struck."--annie dillard
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subject:      rainy day website goofiness (surprisingly igc!)

hi y'all,

i don't want to give it away, but if you own strange fire, and you have a
web browser, point it to the "history" section of rainy day records' new
website, at http://www.rainy.com/history.html because there is a picture
there that just made me laugh my stinkin' head off. =)

you'll see the igc when you get there...

peace

scot

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 9 jul 1996 to 10 jul 1996 - special
              issue

(ok i'm putting on my asbestos suit to protect from the "true" audiophiles)

        within a reasonable limit a cd player is a cd player is a cd player.
all the player does is read a digital bit stream off the disc and the run it
through a relatively simple d/a converter to get the analog sound out.  the
single thing in the cd player which most affects output is the
integrator/filter which cleans up the reconstructed waveform.  make sure you
have a good amp that can handle the dynamic range and there will be very
little difference between units.
       as to the purple markers, rubber rings, high oxygen cables, and pixie
dust that are supposed to make things better -- forget it.  note: all flames
please include documented statistical triple-blind a/b comparison data and
audio spectrum analyzer prints. <g>

at 12:55 96.7.10 -0400, automatic digest processor wrote:
>date:    wed, 10 jul 1996 00:53:51 -0400
>from:    mmedido@aol.com
>subject: re: no subject>mastersound cd
>
>that makes me wonder...what kind of stereos do you suppose
>pro musicians like...oh..lets saaay...emily saliers or amy ray
>own ????? sony bookshelf models($500< like mine !) perhaps ???
>i'd be interestded in knowing what the pros get, ya know ?
>as if i could afford it.
>love !
>popo
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subject:      watershed video

hello, i'm new in here. nice isn't it?

my indigo obsession drives me in a quest to find the "watershed" video
referred to as a new release in the states in the last-but-one ig fan club
newsletter. does anyone know if it is due for release in the uk, or
availiable as an import?

...help.........me...........

love
adrian

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subject:      re: (nigc) - what this gay person wants

well, let's think about it this way...

what do straight people want? to be tolerated or accepted?
do straight people want equal rights under the law? and/or to not be secretly
hated for being straight?

playing devil's advocate again...
lorindigo

(and oh darn, i think i forgot to turn my sig. back on.)

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funny you should mention it. i just got back from camelot (a music store)
and picked up the tmf screensaver and a shawn colvin screensaver for 50
cents each! if you have one in your area i would check the clearance
section!

kim

on tue, 9 jul 1996, tiffany wrote:

> wow, how did i miss that??? i just was on the sony page and i saw the thingy
> about an indigo girls screensaver with tmf(yaay!! they picked a goodie!) can
> anyone point me in the direction of where i can find it?? (i apologize if
> this has been discussed before--just throw something at me and i'll shutup. :)
> tiffany
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subject:      happy birthday! (july 10, 1996)

ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (suzi steffen):
"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush, when i
wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush, when you kiss
me like a lover then you sting me like a viper, i go follow to the river
play your memory like the piper..."

(_ghost_)

:) :) :)

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> hello, i'm new in here. nice isn't it?
>
> my indigo obsession drives me in a quest to find the "watershed" video
> referred to as a new release in the states in the last-but-one ig fan
club
> newsletter. does anyone know if it is due for release in the uk, or
> availiable as an import?
>
> ...help.........me...........
>
> love
> adrian

i'm english too... just living in the usa for a year. i asked amy about
a uk release of the watershed video and she had no idea if it was ever
going to be released anywhere other than in the usa. i get the
impression the sony/epic in the uk and the usa work independently to a
certain extent.... the decision lies with epic uk.

sharon

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subject:      re: rainy day website goofiness (surprisingly igc!)

at 11:27 am 7/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
>hi y'all,
>
>i don't want to give it away, but if you own strange fire, and you have a
>web browser, point it to the "history" section of rainy day records' new
>website, at http://www.rainy.com/history.html because there is a picture
>there that just made me laugh my stinkin' head off. =)
>
>you'll see the igc when you get there...
>
>peace
>
>scot

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

lovely igc... <g>

tiff

in a message dated 96-07-10 16:20:39 edt, kim writes:

>funny you should mention it. i just got back from camelot (a music store)
>and picked up the tmf screensaver and a shawn colvin screensaver for 50
>cents each! if you have one in your area i would check the clearance
>section!

so i take it these music vid. screen savers didn't go over too well.
frankly...i don't think i could tolerate 30 seconds (or whatever it is)
of a song repeated over and over and over and over.......
even if i liked it...it would tend to make me very crabby.

popo

(yes she's changed her name again ! ;)

js>what (in your opinion) do gay people (or the gay community) want more
js>from society? acceptance or tolerance?

js>wouldn't acceptance be the most ideal.  wouldn't it be better for
js>people to say "i accept people of all sexual orientations." rather
js>than "i think gay and bi-sexual people are wrong (going to hell,
js>unnatural, etc, etc.), but i will tolerate them."?  or does it
js>matter?  i guess it may depend on your definition of tolerance.  does
js>tolerance mean no more job or social discrimination?  or mearly a
js>"don't ask, don't tell" type of attitude?

js>does my question make any sense? i'm afraid my written communication
js>is not as good as it could be.

js>this letter is not meant to offend anyone in any way! i am just
js>trying to educate myself on what some of the people around me may or
js>may not be feeling about this type of thing.

js>i love you all,

js>-jason

a little story for you.  my best friend and her girlfriend, a
spectacularly beautiful woman of color (picture halley berry (sp?)),
went to her family's for some holiday or other.  my friend's (who is a
"woman of no color" as another friend eloquently phrased it in a drunken
stupor) 4 year old nephew approached her girlfriend and declared,
"you're brown.  i like brown."  if a 4 year old can accept someone
that easily, so should everyone else in the world.

isn't there something in the bible to the effect of "and a little child
shall lead them"? or perhaps the phrase,"out of the mouths of babes..."
is more apt.

in answer to your question. i want acceptance.

i will not be complacent!

tuesday's child

*stomping feet* it's not fair! i don't have web access and i want it!
if only to check out this thing on rdr's site that you're all having
such a chuckle over. *pout*!

a very childish tuesday's child

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in-reply-to:  <9607101618.aa06896@amy>

the consitition was put in place to protect rights such as the pursuit of
happiness regligion and things like that sorry but homosexuality is
covered for the same reasons hetrosexuality is covered
hugs anthony van pyre

on wed, 10 jul 1996, trant batey wrote:

> >
> > tolerance or acceptence? neither. who cares? i don't care what anybody
> > thinks. i just want the same legal rights everybody else already has and i
> > am constitutionally entitled to.
> >
> i have to dissagree with this.  it is not clear that the constitution protects
> homosexuality, even though it should.  and for the provisions of the
> constitution to be extended to homosexuals.  homosexuality has to not only be
> tolerated, but accepted. so, by saying that you want your constitutional rights,
> you are in effect saying you demand to be accepted. imo.
>
> trant
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indeed! i lol'd all over the place!!!

on wed, 10 jul 1996, tiffany wrote:

> at 11:27 am 7/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
> >hi y'all,
> >
> >i don't want to give it away, but if you own strange fire, and you have a
> >web browser, point it to the "history" section of rainy day records' new
> >website, at http://www.rainy.com/history.html because there is a picture
> >there that just made me laugh my stinkin' head off. =)
> >
> >you'll see the igc when you get there...
> >
> >peace
> >
> >scot
>
>
>
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
>
> lovely igc... <g>
>
> tiff
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>
>
> the consitition was put in place to protect rights such as the pursuit of
> happiness regligion and things like that sorry but homosexuality is
> covered for the same reasons hetrosexuality is covered
> hugs anthony van pyre
>
>
it's not clear that hetrosexuality is protected either.  in one decision i know
the court upheld georgia's sodomy law, which could involve either hetero or
homosexuality. despite the preamble, it seems that some presuites of happiness
are not allowed. as i understand it the forefathers could not come to a
consenses on what the persuit of happiness meant, so they left it at the
procurement of property.  which makes you wonder about the income tax. anyway,
it is still not clear, legally, as to wheather or not any sexuality is
constitutionaly protected.  i understand however that one of the justices that
upheld the georgia sodomy law has sense changed his opinion.

trant

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subject:      1 maybe 2 free tickets to newport!!!

okay, this is the deal...i have two extra tickets to newport ff that
i will give to anyone willing to chip in for a hotel room and a
rental car...i'm only 16 years old and i don't have a lot of money
and i don't drive so i need some kind people to help me out. i'm in
nj and i can put anyone up at my house for up to 3 days before the
festival...i also have a hotel room for $65 a night reserved for
three nights (9,10,11) in a town about 1/2 an hour from newport, so...
if you're on a budget and you want to go...write me. i can almost
garantee one ticket for free the second is not definite though
because i know somebody who might be interested in it (amy, you
should e-mail me or call) but the other one is a pretty good bet.
get in touch with me and we'll see if we can work something out.

thanks,

gwen

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go out and get a copy of scot ninnemann's plaid album and ep. it's really
good and worth the price in postage times 10,000 (wars). if you don't
have it already, get it, or you will be missing out on some keen insights
and alternate views of the world.

just a plug, wendell

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subject:      re: nigc (kind of)

this talk about acceptance and tolerance has got me thinking.
in a heterosexual situation, it is sometimes just as hard.  when
looking for roomies, i have found that my best situations have
been with female roommates.  it seems that often the doors are
closed very tightly there.  and for good reason too.  so often
situations with apparent good intent, turn out totally wrong.
not to mention any sexual complications.

i am currently living with a wonderful lesbian couple.  they
were so open to me from the very beginning.  we really hit
it off right from the start.  they are true sisters, and i hope that
i am a true brother.  there was never that mistrust or closed
doors. maybe it's because the expectations were simply to
be friends and roomies.  and maybe also a little luck finding
the right people.  so you see, acceptance and tolerance can
be very simple for some, but it is not that simple for others.  i
really feel that this goes way beyond homosexuality and into
accepting people for what they are and what they are not.
and a lot of intuition in being able to spot the jerks :)

a little food for thought,
- - howdy.....

lol

a date?

that is soooooo classic- i love it. great idea for a cover, somebody
should use that.......hmmm(stroke the chin). anyway, thanks for the humor=)
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ummm. i love everybody and everybody wants something else.
can we talk about indigo girls now?

may the force be with you
daniel

hi ya'll...

it appears i have to evacuate my lovely port city of wilmington due to bertha
the lovely hurricane. what a pain! just so you know...i am taking all of my
paperwork regarding the shirts with me....labels, etc...so even if i have
nothing left in the world...the shirts will find their homes :)
take care and say a quickie for my worldly belongings...and my computer which
has to stay at home :) my dog, cat, and photos come first.

take care
rob

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*damn* ya'll are fast! this is *supposedly* the official announcement:

monsterbit media is proud to unveil the new and improved rainy day
records www site.....http://www.rainy.com

based on the number of folks who've taken the time to let us know their
thoughts, it seems the word has already hit the street...so i won't
prattle on. however, i *would* like to say that we (monsterbit) really
appreciate those of you that have sent feedback! please let us know
what you like (and don't like) about the site....
hello@monsterbit.com is our feedback address. or, of course, you
can fill out the form on the rainy day site.

as soon as our friends at the big "i" (nternic) in the sky get
around to switching name service, we will be adding a whole slew of new
features to the web site....at this point the year 2000 is our best bet ;)
(disclaimer: it's an ugly job and i'm glad *i'm* not the one handling the
plethoras of domain name requests.) none the less, be sure to book mark
the site...many many changes will happen since the lovely and talented
perry, marsha, and jeff will be contributing on a regular basis (oh my, i
hope they don't decide to do a twisted sister album cover).

thanks again,

mellie price
monsterbit media

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i tried to go to this website nad i got a unable to connect to host
problem anyone else get this?
hugs anthonyv an pyre

on wed, 10 jul 1996, kellie deis wrote:

> that is soooooo classic- i love it. great idea for a cover, somebody
> should use that.......hmmm(stroke the chin). anyway, thanks for the humor=)
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> the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
> if you don't make dust, you eat it.
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>> the consitition was put in place to protect rights such as the pursuit of
>> happiness regligion and things like that sorry but homosexuality is
>> covered for the same reasons hetrosexuality is covered

okay, here's a question for ya... if homosexualiy is covered for the
"same reasons as heterosexuality" how come georgia and a few other states
have recently passed laws making it illegal for homosexuals to get married?
just a thought..

take care,
water

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in a message dated 96-07-10 20:31:41 edt, mediamongr@aol.com (lorie driscoll)
writes:

<<
lol

a date?
>>

oh god, i have to say that i totally second that!!
lorie, ya cracked me up!!!!!!!!!!

:)
rick
hungry, dirty, losing my mind
everything's fine.... ;)

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in a message dated 96-07-10 18:00:40 edt, mmedido@aol.com writes:

<< so i take it these music vid. screen savers didn't go over too well.
frankly...i don't think i could tolerate 30 seconds (or whatever it is)
of a song repeated over and over and over and over.......
even if i liked it...it would tend to make me very crabby.

popo

(yes she's changed her name again ! ;)
>>

clai- i mean, bink- er... popo... ;)

um, yeah it is kind of annoying after a while to hear those same 30 seconds
over and over and over again... i've actually gone back to using those damn
flying windows. or turning the sound down... :)

rick
sharing a completely useless bit of information, but that's my area of
expertise. ;)

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simple for the same reasons other laws get put into effect that are later
removed becasue htey are uncostintuinal

on thu, 11 jul 1996, water wrote:

> >> the consitition was put in place to protect rights such as the pursuit of
> >> happiness regligion and things like that sorry but homosexuality is
> >> covered for the same reasons hetrosexuality is covered
>
>         okay, here's a question for ya... if homosexualiy is covered for the
> "same reasons as heterosexuality" how come georgia and a few other states
> have recently passed laws making it illegal for homosexuals to get married?
> just a thought..
>
> take care,
> water
>
>
>
> "sit by a river, find peace and meaning in the rhythm of the lifeblood of
> the earth..."  -anonymous
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>                            gay but not narrow
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> diviant: fan of             diviant rosehip                  rosehip: fan of
> viva la diva                                                 radar rose
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hey everyone,

well, i was just readin' the mail for the day and no viva posts.
i guess i was the only one on this list that went last night. or not?
water?
so, i guess i get to do the reportin'. oh my, oh my.... what a show!
got down their around 10:30 and caught the last half of the josh joplin
band and wowzers... what energy they have. really cool band imho.
so, 11:00 rolls around and i see cooper walkin' around gettin' ready to
set up. now their fixin' to jam. i sat back, up in front <chairs
section>, with an awesome veiw and wham, the music just fired out.

details:

they played about an hour and 15 minutes (estimation)...

cooper played two guitars... both strats. the main one was black
with a (if i can remember this right) silverish pick guard/plate.
the other was orange with something checkered diagonal on it. <--
this one, i think, was the one she flung down behind her for some reason
i'm not sure of...

cooper went barefoot... i think something was up with her foot or boot.
maybe not, but the singer from the josh joplin band <would that be josh?>
asked her to talk about the foot something thing. still wonderin' 'bout
that...

her guitarist was really good. played a strat mostly. broke a string
later on and then picked up a gibson les paul <i think>.

perry and marsha <i think that's their names>, from rdr, were there...

spoke with cooper, wayne (drummer) and the guitarist (please for-
give me for forgetting his name).

the conversations:

cooper: told her her music and style was an inspiration to me cuz i play
and sing too. she asked me if i had a band and i said no, but i did do an
open mic there recently and am planning to do more. she said that was
cool... told her i gave wayne my address to get on the mailing list and
she said she'd put me on it...

wayne: gave me the set list, talked about their music, asked him when
they are playin' next, said they have a cd at rdr, gave him my info...

guitarist: said he was kinda new with the band. said he was not with them
at the 6/22 show which opened for wendy bucklew (i posted about that and
am not sure if that got to the list due to delivery error).

didn't get to speak to the bassist who played really good as well.

this was only the second time i've seen viva la diva so i'm not too
familiar with their music but i can say my little face will be popping
up at most or all their shows in atlanta in the future...

the set list:

freedom
under my wheels
fall
ultra angel
like a woman
r.s. go
in the afternoon
stop me
silver bullets
toni
mccartney
burning up
when you're ready
clamp down

well, that's about it. thanks for readin'...

kim

date shmate.......just give me more cats.

;)

hi guys, amy sent this to the daemon records e-mail list... thought some
of you might also be interested. subscribing info to the daemon list is at
the bottom of her email. and hey, she is chiapas bound :)

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i was writing my notes for the new daemon newsletter and i thought i would
drop a line to our web site watchers. i've been putting together the new
honor1 cd , a release to benefit the honor the earth campaign. the honor the
earth campaign supports native activists doing grassroots work to save their
cultural ways, communities, and the environment. emily and i helped start the
group about a year ago. basically the grassroots approach seems to work in
all aspects of life these days. i have seen many successful environmental
battles fought and won by the indigenous groups we support, and this helps
all of us. sales in the corporate retail record world seem to be slipping,
but our website and mail order continue to be a success. independent artists,
while they still struggle, are often doing better than major label artists.
the indie artist can build a network that tends to stay attentive rather than
being pulled by the fickleness of the record industry. all things grow better
from the ground up, that's pretty easy to see. i'm heading down to chiapas,
mexico to stand in solidarity with the zapatistas and their struggle for land
rights along with basic human rights. now there's a grassroots movement that
is really effective. i guess i'm trying to point out that there is a basic
need to readdress our approach to life as the world gets more crazy and
corporate, but i have faith that many are heading in the indie direction
already.mmmmm....what is she on about???
just some thoughts...thanks for your support and be lookong for a
bunch of new information to come your way soon.
your comrade,

a.r.

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december 2, 1994 -- the washington square news

amy ray on...jesus christ superstar
by david cohen

dc: i talked to michael lorant last week.

ar: great.

dc: so , i might be playing off a little bit of what he told me.

ar: yeah, he's the man to talk to.

dc: he's such a nice guy. now he told me that when he first mentioned the
idea of doing "jesus christ superstar" to you, he was kind of joking around
with it. what were your first thoughts when he mentioned it to you originally?

ar: i think we were just joking about the idea of who would play what
parts. it was kind of like when you make plans about something and kind of
dream about it. it was more like that, like we never thought we could
actually do it, so i think we were just kind of joking around about it. and
eventually, because of michael, it turned into reality.

dc: he said that you just came to him and said that you wanted to make the
album at daemon.

ar: i think that when i realized that he was serious about it, i just
proposed to him that we put it out through daemon because i felt like i
could really motivate him to make it happen, and i believe in his talent
immensely. i mean, i just think he is so talented, so i just wanted to be
involved in a project that he was working on.

dc: did you pretty much leave him in control from the start, or did you
help out with the pre-planning and bringing
together all the components?

ar: i helped a little bit, but not much. i mean, it was pretty much his
project. i didn't really have time to help as much as i wanted to because i
was on tour a lot of the time. it was his baby, it was his vision and
everybody that was participating were people that he wanted to participate,
so i was definitely not a producer on this one.

dc: what was your first introduction to the musical "jesus christ superstar?"

ar: i think my first introduction was hearing my sister play it actually.
like she used to play the record all of the time. and then i think i started
pulling the record out and listening to it on my own. but she definitely was
the one who got me into it.

dc: was that back when it first came out?

ar: probably a couple of years after it came out.

dc: so you would consider yourself having been a fan of it...

ar: oh yeah. i knew a lot of the music before i got involved in it.

dc: when you were actually in the studio recording it, did you approach it
like a role in a show, or did you approach it more like a singer doing these
songs?

ar: i approached it not like a musical... i mean i approached it like a
rock opera, first of all. and then second of all, i approached it as a role.
i wanted to try to understand what jesus', in this particular story, in
response to judas and some of the other people pulling him different ways,
what he would feel like. as a political figure, too. so, i just kind of
interpreted some of the things my own way and went for it. jesus is a really
angry, sort of condescending character in this, you know what i mean?

dc: oh yeah.

ar: he is not the most sympathetic man in this story. it was kind of hard
for me because i felt ambivalent about that, but once i sort of studied
judas' reactions again i felt closer to the role. i mean, the whole story is
through judas' eyes, so i tried to respond to that.

dc: i know you were a religion major in college - did any of your knowledge
of religion play a part in the way you looked at the musical?

ar: it probably gave me more of a grasp of the political situation going on
that simon is talking about when he does simon zealotes, and that judas is
talking about when he says "we are occupied, have you forgotten how put down
we are?" the whole idea of, basically all these people were jewish, and they
were struggling to keep their identity. just like they are now.

dc: michael told me that when he brought you into the studio to do "poor
jerusalem," it was just you and a piano player.

ar: yep.

dc: and he said that you didn't rehearse it or discuss it or anything.

ar: no.

dc: and you just recorded it and totally blew him away, and i know the
first time i heard it, i was like shaking when i heard "poor jerusalem."

ar: i don't think he thought i could sing that high, that's all.

dc: i heard it and i'm like "wow. amy can do that." how did you prepare
each of these songs?

ar: he gave me a tape - for that song i had a tape of the song from the
album that i listened to and practiced with,
and the other stuff i had tapes of what the music sounded like that the band
had already recorded, so i sung to that. but, there were a couple of songs i
just practiced from the album, and then i would put the album away, and just
look at the words and practice them a capello like to sing them my own way
rather than just like the record or something. and the piano player is
really great - allen. the guy who played piano on that, he's a friend and
i've heard him play and i felt connected to him, so it wasn't a stretch to
do something live with him. i felt that our timing would be pretty together.
just cause he's so good.

dc: when you did "the last supper," and there's the whole scene in the
middle of it where it's like jesus and judas going back and forth at each other.

ar: right.

dc: were you and michael in the studio together doing that?

ar: he put down a scratch part that he was interested in sort of fixing if
he wanted to, and i went sort of against that. i think he might have kept
some of that, i'm not sure. it was like he kind of sang back and forth with
me in the studio, and then he went and fixed things that he didn't think
were as good or something. but, it wasn't like everything was kept. my part
was live, that's the way it was. but for his, i think... i think we sang
against each other and then he replaced some of the stuff.

dc: was that done a lot with the album?

ar: he helped people out since he knew all of the vocal parts for every
single character. he would sing whoever's part you were singing against to
you while you were singing sometimes, to just help you get in the spirit of
it. so, if there were chorus parts, like in "hosanna" or something... i went
in before a lot of stuff had been recorded, the choral parts hadn't been
recorded yet, so he had put down scratch choral parts that he sung all
himself, so it was kind of funny actually. he did mary's parts, and it was
like, schizophrenic or something.

dc: now, did you go in and just like, in a few days, record all of just
your parts?

ar: two days, yeah. two days and then i went in for a couple of hours in
the middle of a tour on a day off to fix something that i didn't like.

dc: now, when were those two days that you recorded?

ar: oh gosh, i can't remember. it was early on in the project. it was
right before i went out on the road. it was probably in may.

dc: so it was right when swamp ophelia came out?

ar: yeah. we had just gotten done mixing and stuff with that, and it was
coming out when i started practicing, and then i went in to record it right
before we went on tour, so it had just come out and we had been finished
with the album for a couple months.

dc: okay. now, there was the article in the la times, which i read, and i
don't have here, i'm sorry, but i know that there was some guy who was like
an editor at a conservative magazine who was quoted in there as saying that
when he first heard that a women was playing jesus, his reaction was to
giggle. what is your response to that?

ar: well, michael has a great response all the time, he talks about sandy
duncan playing peter pan, which is a children's oriented story where a woman
is playing a male part. i don't care what people think. my mom didn't care,
and she's pretty conservative christian, and she thought it was really cool.
i'm not saying that jesus was a woman. i'm a woman who is playing the part
of jesus. it doesn't really matter to me.

dc: i thought it just showed ignorance.

ar: well, people get all caught up in the wrong things to worry about as
far as i'm concerned. that doesn't even matter, you know. for the most part,
the songs are in my key. it's an issue of what key you sing in and stuff
like that. and i think michael felt that this group of people would work a
certain way together. i mean he was looking for certain dynamics. so i was
flattered that he wanted me to do it, and i didn't argue with it, it didn't
bother me.

dc: how did things go with the concerts last weekend?

ar: oh, it was incredible. it was one of those things where
everybody...we're all friends and there was about sixty or seventy-five
people involved, and we got together on the day of the first show and went
through it twice and that's it. and everybody knew their songs and everybody
knew the music, and we staged it. not drama, not like lines, but we staged
some of the action so that it worked so we could move from one scene to
another and have good transitions and have people understand what was
happening. and it was kind of like a vaudeville show, you know, where you
get together at the last minute and you throw together a bunch of costumes
and do it. but, it worked really well, and we all had such a great time that
i think we were all kind of bummed out the day it was all finished cause it
was just so much fun.

dc: now, michael told me when he first moved to atlanta in 89, he was
actually an indigo girls fan.

ar: (laughing) he didn't tell me that.

dc: how did you guys meet?

ar: he was playing with a friend of mine, gerard mchugh, who is, at the
time and still is, one of my favorite songwriters, and someone that i played
with a lot. we were all kind of on a scene where we all played together and
traded gigs and stuff and michael moved down and i met him in that context.
it was like a circle of people, they were all guys, and i hung out with
them. i guess i heard of him from gerard, and then he played me a song
actually, at somebody's house one time, a song called "amy no," which was
this incredible folk song he wrote,
and after that i was like a devoted fan of his. and when he started doing
big fish ensemble, and all of his activities, i kind of followed what he
did, and we just crossed paths all the time. and eventually he started
sitting in with us and playing with us on our records.

dc: i knew of him vaguely from "pushing the needle" and the two songs on
rites of passage, but when i heard "this train revised" that was like the
first time i really heard him, and that's one of the most amazing songs.

ar: he's a great drummer, too. he's a one-of-a-kind drummer. no one else
can really duplicate the way he plays.
it's pretty special.

dc: how do you feel about your kind of position of influence in the music
that is coming out of the atlanta area. because there has been talk in other
interviews about some of the negative ramifications of your increasing
popularity, but on the other hand, your popularity has enabled you to form
daemon and help establish some people like gerard and kristen hall... the
list goes on. how do you feel about your accomplishments with this?

ar: well, i feel really good about it. my whole purpose of doing what i do
is cause i like to be continuously inspired by other music, you know,
besides my own, and all these people that i help have helped me at one time
or another, too. i mean, we're just trading favors because we believe in
each other. and, you know, i don't think the success of the indigo girls has
been negative in any aspect because we haven't had to compromise anything
that we do it's allowed us to make enough money to do something like daemon
because a record label costs, if you
do a lot of records, it costs a lot of money to run. i could never do it if
i wasn't in the indigo girls. i'd probably still be putting out seven-inches
at this point, cause it takes a long time to build up. i mean, i feel really
good about what's going on right now, and i'm close to most of the people
that i work with on the label, and all the people who work for me are really
good friends. it's just a big, giant circle of supportive people, and so it
inspires me to keep going.

dc: your influences seem to be really eclectic. in that you've said you are
a huge fan of such people as the replacements and the pretenders and bob
dylan, but at the same time, you and emily have done quite a bit of elton
john and james taylor covers. how do you feel all the various new wave and
classic rock artists, plus more your contemporaries that you are working
with now, how have they influenced you in the way you write?

ar: well, i like people that are passionate about what they do, and it can
be any kind of music, you know. i like good songwriting and i like
passionate songwriting. that's a lot of different genres, i don't
distinguish. i mean, i think the most, probably a lot of the most inspired
stuff for me, is influenced, by, you know, people like patti smith that are
very vulnerable, and they don't mind being vulnerable and stuff. so, daemon,
you know, we're trying to be really diverse, and do a lot of different kinds
of music. and as we continue we'll probably vary our music even more. i
mean, we'll probably try to get some kind of alternative urban type stuff,
and things that are, you know, besides white music, get some color in there too.

dc: you mentioned with patti smith the vulnerability in songs. the songs
that you write are very introspective. do you ever have any difficulty when
you're writing in that you feel that maybe you are letting the world see
inside of you a bit too much?

ar: no. i don't really care. cause songs kind of give you, somehow they
give you some protection. i don't know how, but they do.

dc: what was your reaction when you heard that swamp ophelia debuted in the
top ten on billboard?

ar: well, i was surprised, actually. and then i thought to myself "wow,
good thing we have a really loyal fan base that goes out and buys our record
in the first two weeks."

dc: but the album stayed strong for a while.

ar: yeah it did.

dc: have you noticed a change lately in the types of venues you're playing
or anything?

ar: there are some areas where we're bigger and bigger, and some areas stay
similar. there are some areas where we could play a big arena, but we don't
want to. so, we really choose specific venues. like we pick out the venue we
want to play at, you know, we don't just play anywhere they tell us. so,
sometimes how big we are doesn't effect really where we play as much, as
does, the fact that we don't want to play somewhere too big.

dc: now, every single night you pretty much have a somewhat different
setlist for every show that you play.

ar: somewhat. yeah.

dc: how do you go about deciding what you want to play every night? do you
have a meeting beforehand?

ar: we do it while we're eating dinner. we sit down and eat dinner together
and make our setlist every night.

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subject:      bertha kiss my butt (nigc

aaaaaaggggggghhhhhh!!!!

bertha kiss my butt!!  i don't care if i'm 100 miles inland--you're comin'
anyway!  hazel blew through in 1954 and tore up wilson, nc--bertha's taking
pretty much the same path.  i'm in for a fun night.

hope everything goes well for our friend rob in wilmington.

soon to be blowin' in the wind,
mary

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subject:      re: nigc (kind of)
x-to:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>

also, y'all is correct because you are contracting you and
all, and the ' goes where the missing letters go. therefore, ya'll is
not correct.

hi kellie!

  yes, but hasn't "ya'll" or "y'all" always been considered a slang
term?  i know you can find it in the dictionary now, but i think that
is due to it's common usage.  i look at it like this:  in most
contractions, it is the letters from the second half of the word or
words that are taken out.  example:  "do not  becomes don't"  the "o"
in "not" is taken out.  in the south, the word "you" is not used as
often as it is up north.  most of the times people will use 'ya' - as
it "what are ya gonna to do tonight?".  since that is most often the
case, couldn't the contraction be "ya'll"?  taking out the "a" in
"all" (the second part of the contraction).

just an idea,

jason

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 10:39:03 -0400
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subject:      nyc tixs onsale friday 9am ticketmaster!!!!!

it is in the village voice that the ig will be playing the roseland and tixs
go on sale on friday, tomorrow!!!! ticketmaster and roseland box office, no
idea what the cost was, just saw it on usenet two minutes ago

any info on hampton beach?????????
mike r.

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subject:      watershed video

adrain wrote about a uk release for the watershed video.

well it looks very unlikely that it will ever be released here, but a can
get hold of original pal copies from australia.

if any uk fans would like more details please e-mail me and i will send you
all the details. live at the uptown lounge has now been deleted in oz, but
i'm doing my best to track down some used copies.

finally, is this still the ig list or has it become the nigc list ?, anyone
else feel the same?

keep the faith .......... richard

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subject:      important:  info.  on nyc, philly, & va. shows

you can tell i am having a productive day at work!

this is what i have uncovered:

indigo girls wed. august 14, 1996 at roseland, nyc
located at 239 west 52nd street
showtime 8pm

tickets, rumor has it on sale tomorrow ticketmaster and roseland box office
no mention of opening act

i will be at work and can't call for tickets so eveyone out there in the ny
area, please don't buy all of them and save 2 for me (well 1 for me, a second
would be nice so i don't have to go alone..)

philly
the electric factory
between 6 and 7 callohill and spg. gz. (whatever that means)
thursday august 15 8pm show

no price list but a comment about $.25 going to charity. no mention of the
chairty.

also no mention of when tickets go on sale but if the nyc dates go on sale
tomorrow the philly dates should go on sale then or sometime soon, i suspect

virginia
the boathouse  (don't have any idea where this is)
august 17 (that is a saturday)  8pm
price:  $15.00 a ticket

no mention of sale date but mentioned a special guest (no mention of who though)

that is all i know so far. i beg all of the nyc area people to not buy all the
tickets so i can go too!

if anyone knows if there is a mandatory evacaution of myrtle beach, sc please
let me know. my parents are vacationing there and i need to know if they are
coming home so i can clean up the house before they get back...

thanks.

indigo live!

in the spirit of the earth,
cynthia crecca
crecca@admin.njit.edu

ahhhem...

you say y'all
i say ya'll
you say you guys
i say youse guys
y'all
ya'll
you guys
youse guys.......

lets call the whole thing off !!!
(bum, bum !)

(sorry...i couldn't resist...ya' hadda know that was coming :)

popo

cynthia wrote:

virginia
the boathouse  (don't have any idea where this is)
august 17 (that is a saturday)  8pm
price:  $15.00 a ticket

no mention of sale date but mentioned a special guest (no mention of who
though)
----

i do beleive the boathouse is in norfolk.....if you loo at the back of 1200
curfews, it is one of the stickers. any idea if ig is playing more towards
d.c.????

in a message dated 96-07-11 10:51:38 edt, richard writes:

>finally, is this still the ig list or has it become the nigc list ?

uuuuuuuhhhhh........

what's an ig ?

;)
gotta go !
popo

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 12:59:12 est
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi_at_01cld__lkst@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      nigc: what do gays want?!?

     >>kirsten wrote:
     >>to begin with, i don't think you can make a generalization about
     >>what "gay people" or "the gay community" wants, since gay people are
     >>individuals (wow ,just like straight people!) with their own
     >>individual hopes, dreams, and ideals, and there is no single "gay
     >>community".

     >>>wow! very well put. i try not collude in conversations that use
     >>>words like jew,italian,gay(ie. my gay hairdresser, my jewish
     >>>accountant, he has an italian temper) i mean when did these words
     >>>become adjectives???

>>...after all, it's human nature to want to be fully accepted as
>>human beings.

>>> thanx for sharing that!
>>> paul

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subject:      (nigc)  the plaid album

i just wanted to second (third? fourth?)  all the rave reviews of
scot's album.  anyone who is on the fence about it - take the leap!
it's a really neat collection of songs.  our scot has talent :)
and it makes great background music for writing lexical analysers :p

you can reach scot at scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu - he'll give
you all the details you need. oooh, it also has a cool glossy liner :)

-sarah

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subject:      amy ray is a separatist !!!
in-reply-to:  your message of "wed, 10 jul 1996 23:48:46 pdt."
              <pine.bsf.3.91.960710234602.259a-100000@anna.az.com>

[ 8< snip snip 8< ]

>corporate, but i have faith that many are heading in the indie direction
>already.mmmmm....what is she on about???

[more snipping 8< 8< ]
> your comrade,
>
> a.r.

yes, what _is_ she on about ... is amy secretly a member of the
parti que'becois? ;)

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>ahhhem...
>
>you say y'all
>i say ya'll
>you say you guys
>i say youse guys
>y'all
>ya'll
>you guys
>youse guys.......
>
>lets call the whole thing off !!!
>(bum, bum !)
>

ha ha ha ... touche' !!!

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mark anthony donajkowski writes:
>i tried to go to this website nad i got a unable to connect to host
>problem anyone else get this?
>hugs anthonyv an pyre

i think whoever first posted the url goofed - it is http://www.rainy.com
^^^
(someone fergot the wwwwwwwwww...)

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subject:      website with humorous ig photo

greetings all in indigo land!

could someone please re post where the website with that humourous ig
photo everyone has been talking about is. i am heading to umass with
a friend who has visual access, unlike me, and are going to surf the
net for ig stuff for a bit. thanks a bunch. takde care and peace!

-deb

what do y'all (correct contraction!) think about exposing the elderly to ig's
music? i have just started working in a nursing home, and i think some of
them could really be cheered up by the wonderful music of ig. in fact, there
are activity times when they go into the all-purpose room and listen to
music, and i _almost_ took some ig music yesterday, but didn't...i would be
interested to know everyone's opinion on what songs would be good to play for
them...=)

peace, love, and spreading the indigo,
ponygirl

p.s. i wanna be an indigo girl when i grow up! <grin> okay, maybe i'd better
lay off of the caffeine...;)

hello again! good grief, i think i've exceeded my limit for posts...oh,
well. this will
be the last one for a while...amyray, i was just wondering if someone out
there would
be willing to dub reverse 1 live and don't eat out of dented cans for me.
i'll send you my bootlist if you want to trade...thanks, and have an indigo
day! =)

carrie

howdy, listees!  okay, i need to know what kind of small tape recorder thing
is the
best for booting a show in a rather large place.  of course, this is a
*hypothetical*
situation, as i would *never* do anything illegal like that.  it's, uh...for
a friend.  yeah, uh...that's it--a very close friend! =)  i've seen this
thing at wal-mart called a pressman (?) by sony, and it was about $30.  is
this a good choice?  thanks for any information...

peace, love, and plantin' tomatoes,
ponygirl

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 14:33:00 -0400
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subject:      more info. on east cost shows

tickets for the show at the boathouse in virginia beach have already =
gone on sale. call ticketmaster for tickets. =20

tickets for the philly show go on sale this saturday at 10 am. =20

the rep. at ticketmaster said that all shows are going to be general =
admission. each venue is relatively small but they're going to pack in =
as many people as possible.

still looking for info on the dc show,

kris

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subject:      re: important: info. on nyc and philly shows
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>indigo girls wed. august 14, 1996 at roseland, nyc
>located at 239 west 52nd street
>showtime 8pm
>
>tickets, rumor has it on sale tomorrow ticketmaster and roseland
box office
>no mention of opening act

tickets are already on sale for the roseland show. you can call
ticketmaster or the roseland box office to get them. ticketmaster
said that you can either have the tickets fedexed or held at the
box office. just another way ticketmaster rips you off! they had no

information on an opening act. tickets are $25.

>philly
>the electric factory
>between 6 and 7 callohill and spg. gz.  (whatever that means)
>thursday august 15   8pm show
>
>no price list but a comment about $.25  going to charity.  no
mention of
> the
>chairty.

tickets for the philly show go on sale saturday at 10am at
ticketmaster and the box office. tickets to that are $25.

smiles and happy ticket buying :)
annemarie

i'm really glad that the indigo girls are touring again. i plan to
see them, but i wish they would have not made it so clear that they
weren't going to tour untill next year. i'm traveling all the way
to the folk festival and spending quite a bit of money to do so,
when i could have simply caught them on tour in my area. i'm still
excited about newport, but as a highschool student with a very
limited budget, i would rather that they show a little respect for
their fans who can't shell out loads of money to see their shows. i
don't want to come off with this bad attitude about them, because i
really love the indigo girls, but this is the way i feel on this
matter right now.

smiles :)
annemarie

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subject:      re: important: info. on nyc and philly shows

tickets for the roseland show in nyc are not on sale yet. i called =
ticketmaster as well as the nyc concert hotline and both stated tickets =
will not go on sale until tomorrow at 9 am.

gee annemarie, you don't know how lucky you are !!!

i'm half the world away here in singapore where the ig won't ever, ever tour.
who can i cry to & what can i say, except that i'm born in the wrong part of the
globe.... buuut, am fortunate enough just to have discovered their music ?

to ever see them live ? - i'll have to save up thousands to fly to the states, & it's
surely a sin to spend that kind of obscene money just for a concert, which can be put
to much better use.

so again, you're so lucky !! *but i know exactly how you feel....* ;-))

**enjoy the shows & savor those moments !!**

re :
>i'm really glad that the indigo girls are touring again. i plan to
>see them, but i wish they would have not made it so clear that they
>weren't going to tour untill next year. i'm traveling all the way
>to the folk festival and spending quite a bit of money to do so,
>when i could have simply caught them on tour in my area. i'm still
>excited about newport, but as a highschool student with a very
>limited budget, i would rather that they show a little respect for
>their fans who can't shell out loads of money to see their shows. i
>don't want to come off with this bad attitude about them, because i
>really love the indigo girls, but this is the way i feel on this
>matter right now.
>
>smiles :)
>annemarie

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     >from: indigopony@aol.com
     >what do y'all (correct contraction!) think about exposing the elderly
     >to ig's music?  i have just started working in a nursing home, and i
     >think some of them could really be cheered up by the wonderful music
     >of ig.  in fact, there are activity times when they go into the
     >all-purpose room and listen to music, and i _almost_ took some ig
     >music yesterday, but didn't...i would be interested to know
     >everyone's opinion on what songs would be good to play for them...=)

     >> my opinion, get them started slowly with: crazy game, least
     >> complicated, hammer and a nail, land of canaan, joking -- these
     >> songs will definitely get their attention, then after a while
     >> they'll notice the depth in ig's lyrics---and they'll request for
     >> full albums!!!
     >> as dennis miller would say: "that's just my opinion, i could be
     >> wrong!!!"                                                ...paul

in a message dated 96-07-11 15:30:11 edt, annemarie writes:

> i would rather that they show a little respect for
>their fans who can't shell out loads of money to see their shows. i
>don't want to come off with this bad attitude about them, because i
>really love the indigo girls, but this is the way i feel on this
>matter right now.

well...yeah..after forking over more $ than i want to think about to catch
what was supposed to be one of two performances 'till '97 i kinda
had the same feeling when i found out that they are gonna be in
seattle this summer (for about 2 seconds;)....but meeting other folks
from the list made it worth it :)

i think that indigo girls mean very well and try to serve their audience
the best they can.
for one thing....
i am very grateful that they play shows in small intimate venues
when they could easily pack folks into a larger place, cut down
on the perfomances and increase their profit...they could do that
but they don't.
also...1,2000 curfews and watershed were flat out gifts to their core fans,
i mean...live albums are not profitable and the vid collection was in
response
to those who want to see them but couldn't because well...they didn't
get any air play. (i know that -i- wrote them and asked for a vid collection
and a live cd)

i think that the unexpected touring probably just kind of happened and they
most likely didn't mean to put anyone out. besides...think of all those folks

who weren't able to travel to see them and were sad :(
now they're glad !!!! :)

frankly i'm really glad to see some activity in ig land.

hey...i just got a packet from hte and they are reserving orders
for the hte cd due aug. 20th !!!!!
i noticed that amy ray was credited as producer !!!!!
now that's intriguing !!! i noticed that 1,200 curfews and the studio cut
bmhawk were self produced...can we expect them to take over the
producer's reigns for the next studio cd ????? ( i like it !)

love !!!
binky

"don't be sad.......be glad !!"
(pollyanna)

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i take it back. tickets are on sale for the roseland show. i'm sorry for doubting whoever posted the previous info.

kris

sorry to waste bandwidth!

sunny, can you mail me privately? i lost your address when the account crashed
this past weekend, and i need to chat with ya 'bout the boots. not only did
my account crash, but my melissa etheridge woodstock boot that i could have
literally died obtaining was mangled in the stereo!!!!

thanks-

karrie

can someone please tell me the command to change to digest form? thanks!

>virginia
>the boathouse  norfolk
>august 17 (that is a saturday)  8pm
>price:  $15.00 a ticket

this event has been confirmed. how do i know? because i just got 2
tickets, one for me and one for my friend johannah. i can't wait, it's
been way too long. see y'all there.

john

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but 3 digests a day is a little much mail for me to check, so i'll bid
you all a fond adieu as i ride off into the sunset.

and i truly hope that the force is with all of you
daniel

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subject:      nigc (no surprise!) what this gay person wants

        whoo hoooo!  what a weekend!! see - took me until thursday to
recover enough to tap to my favorite list!  lucky y'all!!!
        what this gay chick wants is to be judged only for my contributions
(or lack thereof) to my world, my use of the gifts/potentials i was born with,
&  my treatment of the souls around me. it really hurts to know that there are
whole barrel-loads of people who hate, pity, despise, are disgusted by, or
want to "cure" me w/o ever even meeting me, reading something i write, or
getting a slobbery smooch from one of my wonder-dogs.  i can handle being
hated... but give me a chance to earn it, ya' know?  i would also like to have
the phrase, "she was a good friend" muttered at least once after i die, but that
is off subject, right?!  ;-)
        oh, and how bout ".. for someone who can take as much as i give,
give as much as i need, and still have the will to live"??... but of course
then i'd be
slipping in igc and who'd ever expect that from me, right?

<sending a huge hug to my nw and bellowing "thank you!!!">
tracy
~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^returning to my mountains!!!
countdown - approx 6 weeks!

"all those voices,they whisper through my walls
        they talk of falling fast,  they say i'm losing it all...
        they say i'm running blind to a love of my own
but i'll be walking proud, i'm saving what i still own..."
        --- amy ray, "nashville"

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subject:      nigc: coming home (subtitle- seattle in the summertime)

"baby we'll make the cascades by august..."
        not that more than a few of you would care, but i am finally on my
way home for real!!!!!  i felt the need to put this on the list simply b/c this
list led my way toward "get outta' bed, get a hammer and a nail....".  i met
some important and wonderful people when i needed friends more than
anything, and you and they somehow managed to encourage me to keep
going.... i feel like i owe my life to y'all in a way.  thank you.
        so, those of you who live/play on the route between michigan and
seattle, look for a dark green escort wagon full of dogs and a shortish
chick loudly warbling tunes w/ the nojf boot (5/4 of course) between
aug 21ish and, oh who knows.... maybe aug 27ish... we'll see how fast the
dogs want me to drive! lol!  wave at us and maybe we'll even let you pet
our furry wittle heads!
        my seattle area brethren...(meaning anywhere between portland and,
oh heck - the aleutians... yes kim, that includes pr! lol) anyone got any
lines on jobs (a/o a place to live! :-/  )?  hah haa?
        again, all y'all (neat alliteration!) **thank you**!!! we'll see if it
ends up being worth it, but you really truly have saved my heart, my soul, and
my life.  i mean it.
        ftr, my email address should remain the same, as my provider is
national.  this will probably be my only list i don't unsub from during the
trip (don't worry - unlimited mail, no bouncing!).  too bad i don't have a
laptop so i could post travel stuff and cyber-visit along the way w/ those of
you along the route, eh?  <loud noises of ig-listers simultaneously thanking
their higher powers for small favors!>
        take care everyone and hug an ig-l'er today. please forgive
in advance any and all upcoming happy-goofy posts from me, kay? love
y'all, really!
        and last and least least, kim.... biggest thanks to you. your new tag
should be goddess of friends, cuz' you are.  you know all the rest.
someday, sm.  may i someday soon be able to give some back. love ya'.

tracy <turning off her sig as a nod to bandwidth... this time... ;-) >

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subject:      igc!!! mystery - song of week

since i was death exhausted when i got home early tues morn, it was not
until this morning that i really got caught up on my email stuff... and i
noted that the sow died out fairly early on this week.. so here i am
listening to mystery and making a contribution...
        even as a card-carrying amy-type, i have to say i love this song...
i mean, it's overall  outstanding arrangment - the break is original... and
the feelings are just intense as heck... first time i heard it i wondered if
she was writing about someone similar to amy - "
must be a 1,000 things you would die for, " etc. reminds me of the diff
between a songs and e songs... does that make sense?  perhaps i need mental
help...  i love the line "why do you spend this time with me, maybe (i think
of it as "may be", though) an equal mystery."  the music parts actually
build a *physical* reaction in me.. escpecially the build to  "i could go
crazy on a night like tonight..."    actually, i can really relate to much
of this song.... hmmmm....  " maybe that's all that we need is to meet in
the middle of impossibility..." yeah. for sure.  sorry i don't have any
amazing insights, but i do love this song and it usually makes the cut for
my 90 min comp tapes.
        jeez - i sure sound like a goon.  i warned you'z all tho, i get odd
when happy!

rob - i'm hoping hard that bertha misses you and all your loved ones, kay?
keep us updated, sir. i'll keep all my digits crossed for you... and that
causes some difficulty in walking and such, so do let us know asap, alright?
<furrowing brow as i send the strongest of positive thoughts and hurricane
repelling zen to my east....> (oh, and my furry ones here think that yours
need treats to deal with the stress... they suggest piggie ears and frosty paws)

tracy
~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^returning to my mountains!!!
countdown - approx 6 weeks!

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subject:      wendy bucklew in sw va
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hey y'all.. it appears that those of y'all in the sw va area, well, maybe
i'm the only one, get a treat this weekend-- wendy bucklew is coming up to
play--

so if you are in the area-

friday night at the mill, floyd va
saturday night at the full moon cafe, roanoke, va
sunday afternoon at the bridge club, moneta, va w/ radar rose

take care,
water from her mother's acct

i am at home and i subscribe to the list at work so i apologize if someone
posted this
information already.

tickets are now on sale for roseland's aug. 14 ig show.

i called ticketmaster charge by phone from a pay phone in the middle of
downtown central
new jersey on my way to the train and ordered tickets. the problem (at
least for me)
seemed to be when i called a local ticket-master box office. that is where
i got the
information about the tickets not being on sale until tommorrow 9am.

so for all my fellow nyc area, ig fans, go get your tickets now from
charge-by-phone.

i look forward to perhaps meeting some of you there!

in the spirit of the earth,
cynthia crecca (who will now go clean her parents house in case bertha
brings them home early)
crecca@admin.njit.edu
cac573@worldnet.att.net

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 19:45:07 -0400
reply-to:     sharon and fran <thegirls@pop.erols.com>
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subject:      ig show @ the boathouse

hello all, boy am i excited the girls are coming to town.
just to clear up issues about the boathouse, it is located in
downtown norfolk directly behind habor park (tides stadium/mets farm team)
i-64/264/464 interchange.
it's near waterside and you can take a ferry over from portsmouth
instead of driving, if you wish.
tickets are all general admission and on sale now.
i just got off the phone with ticketmaster and ordered mine.
hope to see ya'll there.

p.s. if i can help anyone with directions just yell, i work for vdot.

sharon

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 17:55:38 cdt
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subject:      re: ig tour

ig is not "on tour".  from what i understand, they are visiting a few
cities most likely to test out new material before going back into the
studio.  and i'm sure that getting out of atlanta during the olympics
prompted the idea as well.  i'm sure this "tour" was not something they
anticipated when they originally broke for hiatus.

these additional dates are a gift. i spent more then i could afford, also,
going to new orleans, and i plan on going to minneapolis in september. but
i'm the farthest thing from mad hearing that they'll be 1 hour away from me
when they come to austin, texas to play.

>>i'm traveling all the way to the folk festival and spending quite a bit
of money to do so,

not to be mean, but you chose to fork out the cash to go to the folk
festival.  if you couldn't afford it, don't blame amy and emily.  they need
to test out their new material.  they aren't going to withhold from touring
just because they said they were going on hiatus.  they have a job to do in
order to provide us with a great new album.

>>>i would rather that they show a little respect for their fans who can't
shell out loads of money to see their shows.

they do nothing but show respect for us.  they gave us a great 2 cd set and
video before leaving.  we could have it worse - - they could have actually
been gone for 18 months.  but they are giving us some small tour dates
before going into the studio.

i don't mean to have this come off as a flame, but that e-mail just rubbed
me wrong. let's place blame for our money shortage on the right people - -
us. we don't have to go to concerts. concerts are a luxury. let's be
thankful that they are touring.

for what it's worth...
- jen hall
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to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

smiles :)
annemarie

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subject:      nigc: olympics

hi all indigos!

i know i posted this a while ago, but the time is getting close -
anyone on the list going to the olympics or live in atlanta?  i would
like for us all to hook up sometime down there.  i will be in atlanta
from july 19 - 30.  anyone going please e-mail me back.

take care,

donna

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 21:32:22 -0400
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subject:      oh ticketbastard,
              oh ticketbastard enough with the service charges already

good day all,

what a disappointing (yet at the same time, marvelous) day.  i find out that
the day the ig are coming up here to nyc, i have tickets to see another
concert.  then the day the ig are playing in philly, i have tickets to see
yet another concert.  therefore, i am ginia-bound.

am i the only person who truly detests ticketmaster?  not only did i pay
service charges up the #&*#@#$! but the nyc number could not sell me tickets
to the va show.  so i had to call the va number.  is this a common
occurrence?  if i remember correctly, the tickets i got for newport were sold
to me over the nyc line.

btw, can anybody confirm a 8/18 washington d.c. tour date? it was posted on
the ig newsgroup, but there's no venue listed. any info?

sheri

hey y'all!
oops!!! i forgot the nigc! sooooorry!!!
my email accounts are changing, as they seem to do...sooooo...
if you are trading with me, and you need to get hold of me, email me at
sharney@javanet.com....
if you are waiting/looking for email from me, though, it will come from
saclark@smith.smith.edu
go figger, huh?
take care! :)
sue

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 18:31:34 -0700
reply-to:     wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: songs before they were songs
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hi everybody!

ok, here we go, this is the revised list so far, and i think i'm still
waiting for a few songs from people.  but thatnks to everyone who sent me
tapes.  i'm going to have to ask everyone how the tape tree thing goes
because i've never done this before.  i'm really excited about this
because not only does it let people hear what the old songs sounded like,
it also has a lot of the new ones that might make it onto their next
album.

prince of darkness (from 88 with a guitar solo! a la carrie)
> pushing the needle too far (from chapel hill 87)
> nashville ( from a long time ago)
> welcome me (from uptown girls-because the guitar solo rocks, and is
> different than on the album)
> love will come to you (thanks carrie-with added verse)
> cedar tree (thanks carrie)
> fare thee well (thanks you know who again)
jonas and ezekial (thanks deb!)
ghost (thanks both to carrie and deb)
> least complicated (thanks greg)
> fugitive ( greg again)
> reunion (and once again...greg)
> chiapas bound
> problem child
> cut it out
> pray my way through or around it
> going to the country
> don't give that girl a gun
> get out the map
> shame on you
> blood quantum ( but i may not put this on since the recording is so poor)

this is a pretty big list for a 90 minute tape, but i'm still looking for
more emily songs to balance out the indigo girlsness of it.  so if anybody
has an emily song that was in the writing stages, please let me know and
we can work something out.  i might not be getting least complicated, so
that would mean no emily songs from swamp ophelia, and i know nobody wants
that right? so, if you have information on emily songs, or how to run a
tape tree, please email me.  thanks to all the little blue helpers out
there-not smurfs.

get a copy of scot ninnemann's plaid album,
wendell lee

i think a few of you guys are jumping down annemarie's throat when her
feelings are shared by others. i don't believe her message was in anyway to
"blame" anyone or spread mean things about the indigo girls. i am going to
newport and i wish i would have known they were going to play shows in the
d.c. area. and i think they shouldn't have made it so clear that they were
only doing a few shows this year. for people on a limited budget it makes it
hard to plan. i like the indigo girls and i don't understand why some people
on this list make it seem like the things she has expressed is totally with
no merit. i'm just defending her feelings on this issue, because i too feel
the same way.

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 18:47:21 -0700
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subject:      folk music mailing list (nigc)

hi everyone.

i'm looking for the subscribe/admin address for the folk music mailing
list. if anyone has that address i would appreciate it. i have checked the
archives of the list but was unable to locate information pertaining to
joining it.

thanks in advance.

lori

ok so it isn't a tour...but could someone please repost the scheduled shows
again? thanks........

love-

karrie, the girl who is having a hellish week in general

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 22:31:07 edt
reply-to:     sharoane <sparke61@maine.maine.edu>
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from:         sharoane <sparke61@maine.maine.edu>
subject:      ig tour and flaming the poor

now now now...i'm sad to see the flaming of the poor lister who
expressed her annoyance with the fact that in order to see her
favorite duo play she had to invest in newport...it's not cheap
to go, and not many of us out here have the time or money just
waiting to be spent. yes, we owe the ig for their great music and
no, we don't expect them to tour constantly for us, but while
i'm glad that i'm headed to newport i still wish i had known
about the other dates they are playing as i am a very poor
college student who can barely afford to buy groceries. i had
to borrow money for newport from my gf(good thing she's patient!)
and use the birthday money i got to pay it off(whoohoo!). anyway,
my point is simply to be easier on eachother here and keep in mind
that if it weren't for dedicated fans like us, amy and emily wouldn't
be playing so much music...no one owes anyone...it's a mutual thing.
peace
sharoane

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date:         thu, 11 jul 1996 22:37:21 -0400
reply-to:     meadows@allegheny.edu
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subject:      re: folk music mailing list (nigc)
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in-reply-to:  <v01530501ae0b1762a8c1@[153.37.131.42]>

the address for the list is folk_music@nysernet.org. i'm pretty sure
(but not positive) that the address to subscribe is
listserv@nysernet.org. but, the list is totally moderated, so even if
you write to the list address your message probably won't end up on the
full list (try the listserv first though to see if it works...).

- elizabeth :)

on thu, 11
jul 1996, lori collins wrote:

> hi everyone.
>
> i'm looking for the subscribe/admin address for the folk music mailing
> list. if anyone has that address i would appreciate it. i have checked the
> archives of the list but was unable to locate information pertaining to
> joining it.
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> lori
>
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hey listees...
my thoughts on mystery. no amazing insights (unlike tmf=) b/c i think
this song was meant to be obvious. i love this song-i always have
someone in mind when i hear/sing along with it. it is a great
beginning of a relationship song. i love the "moved in and made my
thinking crowded" line--that is exactly what happens- that is how it
feels!! this song is so me-definetly a fave. have a groovi day, and to
all thouse on the east coast (more east than me, anyway) we are all
hoping that this bertha critter blows by you (no pun intended) and
brings no harm to you and your loved. thinkin of ya ;) kel
--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

well, i must say i can sympathize with annamarie, but i am also
agreeing with the others. i live in ohio, and i would die just to see
ig, but i am poor and job-bound, and ig will be nowhere near here
(pout, pout) so, i can understand how frustrated you must be, but
feel lucky because you get to see them at all. hugs and smoochies, kel
--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 00:27:07 edt
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      happy birthday! (july 11, 1996)

jacksojj@uwec.edu (jennifer jo jackson) (happy 20th!):
"did you borrow the soul, the soul that you sell now? what does your conscience tell you?
where are the demons of your desire? why does my love destroy you?"

sparke61@maine.maine.edu (sharon) (happy 27th!):
"this world falls on me, with dreams of immortality
everywhere i turn, all the beauty just keeps shaking me..."

(_tried to be true_, _world falls_)

:) :) :)

(sorry 1/2 hour late!)

--
kirsten chevalier kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
it's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for.

for anyone interested in checking out an artist who has been integral to the
atlanta sound that has been so influential to the indigo girls, here's some
great news (sorry about the run-on sentence, but it's late)!

- - the original note follows - -

date: fri, 12 jul 96 01:04 edt
from: "sylvia" <slf104@psuvm.psu.edu>
subject: wendy bucklew rage in the ring
to: atlartists@monsterbit.com
sender: owner-atlartists@m2.monsterbit.com

hey y'all!
     i'm not sure whether this is old news or not, but wendy bucklew's first
release, _rage in the ring_, has been reissued and is available exclusively
through rainy day records 1.800.636.6166.
     for those of you who are unfamiliar w/wendy bucklew's music (and i am
quite skeptical if there is anyone on this list who falls into that category!),
take a chance on this one.  i'm not sure that i can accurately describe her
sound--she is one of the truly unique and original artists in an industry that
seldom rewards such a thing--but i'll give it a shot.  her guitar playing is
groundbreaking.  she somehow comes up with chords and phrasings that blow the
typical folk rock sound and format away.  her voice is raspy, raw, emotive,
and honest.  her lyrics are profound and direct.  yes, i am biased.  check
out _rage in the ring_ and you will know why.  and be sure to pick up _painting
sidewalks_ while you're at it!
                       sylvia

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sylvia wrote:

> date:    fri, 12 jul 96 01:04 edt
> from: "sylvia" <slf104@psuvm.psu.edu>
> subject: wendy bucklew rage in the ring
> to: atlartists@monsterbit.com
> sender: owner-atlartists@m2.monsterbit.com
>
> hey y'all!
>      i'm not sure whether this is old news or not, but wendy bucklew's first
> release, _rage in the ring_, has been reissued and is available exclusively
> through rainy day records 1.800.636.6166.
>      for those of you who are unfamiliar w/wendy bucklew's music (and i am
> quite skeptical if there is anyone on this list who falls into that category!),
> take a chance on this one.  i'm not sure that i can accurately describe her
> sound--she is one of the truly unique and original artists in an industry that
> seldom rewards such a thing--but i'll give it a shot.  her guitar playing is
> groundbreaking.  she somehow comes up with chords and phrasings that blow the
> typical folk rock sound and format away.  her voice is raspy, raw, emotive,
> and honest.  her lyrics are profound and direct.  yes, i am biased.  check
> out _rage in the ring_ and you will know why.  and be sure to pick up _painting
> sidewalks_ while you're at it!

great description! and, oh yes, i agree with you highly! wendy is most
definately one of the most influential women i can certainaly relate to.
being a musician, i can say that she definately decribes the guitar in a
whole new way. she's, like i said before, not just gettin' through a
song. she mixes it up with leads and harmonics. i've seen her live many
times and each time she still moves me and a lot of others. rage in the
ring is full of the most prodigious, staggering acoustic music i've ever
heard. and painting sidewalks just shows signs of her growing as an
artist. it's two of the best cd's i've ever heard.
and, not to mention, wait - yes to mention, her live performances just
captivate all that energy right there in front of you. definately an
awesome, awesome artiste!! thanks for the post sylvia~

kim

i was attempting to get on the mailing list but a message was sent to
me telling me i had done something wrong-so i am trying again-
subscribe indigo girls--tricia at gwen@mo.net

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 04:25:52 -0500
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subject:      e-mail from amy ray...

this is from monsterbit, the company that
provides web space to daemon records:

i was writing my notes for the new daemon newsletter
and i thought i would drop a line to our web site
watchers. i've been putting together the new
honor1 cd , a release to benefit the honor the earth
campaign. the honor the earth campaign supports
native activists doing grassroots work to save their
cultural ways, communities, and the environment.
emily and i helped start the group about a year ago.
basically the grassroots approach seems to work in
all aspects of life these days. i have seen many
successful environmental battles fought and won by
the indigenous groups we support, and this helps
all of us. sales in the corporate retail record world
seem to be slipping, but our website and mail order
continue to be a success. independent artists,
while they still struggle, are often doing better than major
label artists. the indie artist can build a network that
tends to stay attentive rather than being pulled by the
fickleness of the record industry. all things grow better
from the ground up, that's pretty easy to see. i'm heading
down to chiapas, mexico to stand in solidarity with the
zapatistas and their struggle for land rights along with
basic human rights. now there's a grassroots movement that
is really effective. i guess i'm trying to point out that
there is a basic need to readdress our approach to life as
the world gets more crazy and corporate, but i have faith
that many are heading in the indie direction
already.mmmmm....what is she on about???
       just some thoughts...thanks for your support and be
lookong for a bunch of new information to come
your way soon.
                             yourcomrade,
    a.r.

december 2, 1994 -- the washington square news

michael lorant on...jesus christ superstar
by david cohen

dc: the press release for the album said that once you had the idea in
1991, you didn't even bring the idea to amy ray for a year. once it was
brought to her, what was the process of bringing people together to play on
the album?

ml: once it was brought to her, it was also brought to her jokingly. i
really did mention it to her almost immediately
in 91 when gerard and i were touring, but for about a year we would all
just joke about it, and then about, i guess it was sometime in 92, she said
'do you realize that i want you to do this and i want to release it on
daemon, and i said 'ah, no.' and, so she kind of made me put my money where
my mouth was, i guess. since i had a budget all of a sudden, we decided we
were going to do it. it was a matter of me just starting to phone call all
the people that i had wanted on my wish list, and it came together pretty
fast. it probably took me a month to line up all the people who were going
to be on it.

dc: and that was in 92?

ml: well, no it was.. it might have been the end of 92. what year is it?
94. we started recording in january of 94,
so this was the end of 93, november, 93.

dc: now who decided about the casting for the album?

ml: me.

dc: you.

ml: and gerard, too.

dc: were there any conflicts at all between people where you said this
person is going to play this part. did anybody get upset that they wanted to
play something else? that you can talk about.

ml: there's stuff that i probably can't talk about, but i would say in
general it went amazingly smoothly, probably because for a long time, people
didn't even have the slightest idea that i was really going to pull this
off. as it started coming together, no one knew that it was gonna be as
successful as it seems to be coming. it wasn't like a real big deal. people
didn't fight over getting on this. i would say as it started getting press
though, by mid-94, i started getting phone calls from people asking if they
could be on it, but they weren't really people i knew, they
were just people around the city in different bands that i wasn't that
familiar with. i think that really people were just excited to be asked to
be in kind of a community event like this.

dc: yeah, i mean the people on the album, the cast is amazing.

ml: thanks.

dc: i have heard it about sixty times in the past month, and it amazes me
every time i hear it.

ml: well i have to say it was kind of um, what's the word, i wouldn't say
it was like an ego trip for me, but it was definitely an indulgence. i was
just getting people that i really like to work with, that i had always
admired in atlanta, and a little bit outside of atlanta, and it was like a
dream come true. it was everyone i wanted to work with, and i just picked
them, and they said they would do it, and that was that. so, it's pretty
amazing to be able to have finished it.

dc: one thing about the album that i love is that it really flows perfectly
from song to song, yet different bands play
on each one, now how was this continuity kept, was there a lot of
collaboration between all of the artists in decision making, or were you in
control of all that?

ml: i was pretty much in control of that. i was very specific in what i
wanted, how i wanted each song to end
or begin. and if a band did something that surprised me, i just worked with
it in the most creative way i could think
of. i really worked to make this thing not the usual compilation album
where everything sounds different and it's not really a complete experience.
there's so many tribute albums, compilation albums out there today. and you
like one song on it or four songs on it, but you never really listen to the
whole thing, and i was trying to avoid that.

dc now, about you, personally playing, did you approach your role of judas
like a role in a play, or more like a singer performing a song?

ml: i think i approached it like a singer. but, you know i listened to it
when i was ten in 1970, so i had many years
of imagining. you know how you kind of create videos in your head, i had
been doing that for five years of my
childhood. so, i had a lot of thoughts... i put a lot of unconscious thought
into the whole story and everything. and i really love the role of judas.

dc: it's like the best role in any musical ever.

ml: yeah, it's pretty heavy. i talked to a friend of mine who was pretty
versed in christianity and jesus and
catholicism, and she said that there's not really very many historical
accounts of judas that are so fully realized as this one in jesus christ
superstar. most of the time he is thought

of as a completely evil character, and kind of one-dimensional, and here's a
little picture of him where you can kind of see the anguish he is going
through. i'm kind of into that. being jewish, i also kind of associated with
like... i don't even know how to explain it.

dc: see, for me, and i'm also jewish, this album is really my only lesson
in the story, so that's why i have always loved it. it's telling me
something that i don't really know from any outside sources.

ml: and it kind of does talk about jesus in his jewish roots, and judas
kind of seems really jewish to me, and it's kind of a tragic story about the
parting of the two religions in a way. who knows, i'm not a theologian.

dc: now two particular songs on the cd stand out for the obvious changes
and updates that you made to them:
"superstar" and "hosanna." how did you come up with the idea for these
songs? making "superstar" almost like a jazzy hip-hop song, and turning
"hosanna" into an all-out fanfare.

ml: the "superstar" thing came about... i always kind of wanted to funk
that song up cause i thought it was kind of
lame on the original album, where they go (in a high-pitched voice) "jesus
christ." i just think that's kind of a low-point. i thought of getting a
funk band involved, and i had actually

worked with some of the guys in that band, social insanity, at my day job,
so i got them involved, and i let them do
basically whatever they wanted to do, and luckily, i loved it. so, it might
have been a sad story if i had hated it.

dc: i remember the first time i heard it and right away when i heard "jesus
is back in the 90s with a new funk," i was like "whoa!" it's perfect.

ml: the other song, actually now that i think back at it, "hosanna" was
kind of slated to be cut. i was kind of toying
with the idea of trying to make this a single cd to keep the cost down, and
i thought that i would be able to cut a few songs, and make it fit, and i
thought maybe i'd cut that and "crucifixion" or something like that. but, it
turns out, i
really didn't want to cut anything. to me it's a complete thing in my mind.
i thought of cutting "crucifixion" but a lot of people talked to me about
how the whole story isn't complete at all without that. so, with "hosanna"
at the last minute when i decided i needed to do it, i thought of having big
fish ensemble do a horn thing and make it really seem like a marching
band... kind of a chaotic, cause it is kind of like a march, like a rally
sort of thing. so, that was my hope in my mind to create that, and then i
remembered that at little five points in atlanta, where i come from, there's
this little community marching band that is made up of people from all walks
of life, and i thought "god, wouldn't it be great if they would agree to do
it," and so i called them up, and that's how that happened. and it's really
just turned out amazingly well. it was kind of difficult to actually get the
music together because we weren't able to find any written parts for a
marching band, so one of the members of the marching band actually arranged
it on his computer for like twelve hours straight. he got it together in
time. so, that's the answer to that question.

dc: i read the la times article that was written about the cd a while ago,
and i was just wondering, what was
your reaction when the head of that conservative newsletter, i don't
remember his name, said that the idea of a woman playing jesus made him giggle?

ml: i don't even remember that quote. that kind of makes me nervous that
people are... who is he the head of?

dc: some conservative newsletter. he was like an editor or assistant
editor, or something like that.

ml: i wish people could open their minds up a little bit. to me, the idea
of god or jesus or what have you, has never really been firmly entrenched as
a gender thing. i always thought of god as a non-specific sort of power that
happened to take the form of whatever so that humans can understand god.
but, i never grew up thinking god was a man, an old man at that, or
whatever. i didn't pick amy to play jesus to make a political statement. i
don't think that people could argue that jesus was a woman or jesus was a
man. i mean, part human as a man, not
as a woman, but i just thought it would be an interesting musical event, and
i thought it would be... i thought it might help to open up people's minds a
little bit about different possibilities.

dc: yeah, well amy has the perfect voice for the role.

ml: well, that was my main thought when i cast her in that she can reach up
to those highs and she can get pretty low, and she has that kind of angst to
her voice that the role needs. and she totally outdid herself in my mind. i
couldn't believe. when she sings "poor jerusalem," which is just a piano and
her basically, we recorded that thing live with the piano player, and we
were all sitting in the recording studio just completely blown away while it
was happening. we didn't know what to expect; i really didn't know how well
rehearsed she was, and she really nailed that one.

dc: i remember the first time that i heard it i was like shaking from her
voice. have you heard anything from either andrew lloyd webber or tim rice
about this album?

ml: the only thing i've heard is that quote from the la times, which didn't
seem hostile.

dc: but they haven't said anything since then?

ml: i actually don't even know the status of whether they've heard it or
whether they approve of it. i've had so much else to worry about that i
haven't really done much about getting the rights and stuff, that was the
record label's responsibility. i would definitely welcome their opinions
because i really did want to recapture the original essence of it. i can't
say that i follow what those guys do now so much. i don't really like what
jesus christ superstar has become.

dc: so we won't hear the michael lorant version of "sunset boulevard"
anytime soon?

ml: i don't think so.

dc: okay, too bad. now, what did you think of the film "jesus christ
superstar" directed by norman jewison.

ml: i thought it bit.
dc: really?

ml: yeah. the only good element of the film was judas, i thought.

dc: carl anderson.

ml: yeah.

dc: so you would say you prefer the murray head and ian gillam version to
the ted neeley and carl anderson
version?

ml: no question. in fact, part of my disbelief about what happens to these
musicals as they grow older is that they pick these people to sing what's
supposed to be a "rock opera," and the people don't have any rock
sensibility to their voices. i'm sorry, but ted neeley... i know a lot of
people who grew up listening to that version and love his voice, but he
sounds like a totally soulless white guy with a half-baked opera voice. he
just doesn't have any soul to me. and the same goes for new versions of
"tommy." if i could have cast the people in that movie, i don't think i
would have picked ann-margaret because i think she has one of the worst
voices i have ever heard in my life. and it's on broadway, and there are not
too many people... i saw it when it was in atlanta and there weren't really
too many people singing lead roles that have any sort of sense of rock n
roll. wasn't that the original point?

dc: other than "jesus christ superstar," who have been some of the major
influences on you musically? do you have any particular idols?

ml:  well, i grew up listening to the beatles and the who, and later, like
elvis costello. my tastes range from everything from classical to a little
bit  of jazz and definitely a lot of english rock and folk and stuff. i
think that the original "jesus christ superstar" had a lot of elements of
that late 60s english stuff. they used badfinger as a back-up band, and deep
purple. they're pretty beatles, well badfinger is. that's part of the reason
that i
like it so much. and those are all the elements that were taken out of it as
it continued  on in life.

dc: yeah, which is why i think it is so great to find this new recording
with it all put back in.

ml: i hope so. i'm psyched that you seem to have gotten the point of what i
was trying to do.

dc: i do have to ask, where did the name big fish ensemble come from?

ml: well, that's a long story. i'll try to shorten it for you. about half
the members of big fish ensemble were in an earlier band called big wall of
shit, and they played pretty hard core, harsh music that was kind of like a
big wall of shit coming at you. not literally of course. when sheila and i
joined the band and kind of smoothed it out a little bit, we weren't having
a lot of luck getting gigs as big wall of shit. they billed us as big wall
of feces, big wall of blank, and there was big wall of fish, so we kind of
used the big and the fish, and we figured that since had the horns and
violins going, we'd add ensemble, so big fish ensemble.

dc: how long have you and sheila been part of the band?

ml: we've been part of the band since 89.

dc: i remember my introduction to you personally came from the song "this
train revised."

ml: oh yeah.

dc: your voice contributes so much to that song, which is so absolutely
amazing. with that song, did you work at all with amy ray in putting it
together?

ml: yeah, we worked a little bit together... amy played it for me, gave me
a tape, and then she had sheila and i up to her house to try to work out a
drum part and a violin part, and try to ground the different... to try to
cement the form
of the song, so we kind of helped certainly in creating our parts, and
deciding how the song would be structured. after that, i got another tape
from both amy and emily, they were working up in nashville where they
recorded, and that was the last tape i heard of it before i was invited up
there to record it.

dc: was "pushing the needle too far" the first song you did with them?

ml: yeah, it was.

dc: cause i know you did that, then two songs on rites of passage, and like
five songs on swamp ophelia.

ml: yeah, it's been an honor to work with them. they've been really
supportive of me and it's just great. i moved down to atlanta just as they
got big, and i was a fan of theirs, and its just neat to get kind of
included in their lives. because they've got so much going on and they're
really busy. they've always made the effort in reaching out to me. it's been
wonderful.

dc: i was wondering if there has been talk of touring with jcs a bit, or
just doing the shows this weekend?

ml: no. there's not really talk of doing that. the whole performance is
going to be treated more like just a rock
performance, it's not going to be staged really. but we are trying to kind
of set people in certain spots and have a little bit of action in it. we'll
see.

okay this topic was dead so leave it to rick to resurrect it again!

i'd love love love to hear em's take on "no myth" which was a song by michael
penn back in 89....

and secretly nothing would be cooler than a cover of "only the good die
young", but i don't see it happening. ;)

rick
(who's best friend, lisa, is now a listie!!!!!!!!!!)

*rock stars aren't known for fighting crime* liz i want the new album
already phair

:)
ps. anyone out there know of a song by gordon lightfoot called "song for a
winter's night"???

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 10:27:23 edt
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      hampton beach!!!! hammpton beach!!!

okay folks in new england, now that i have your attention.....

several times someone has posted in the last few days trying to get info about
ig playing at hampton beach, nh. i called this morning and found out they
definitely are confirmed for the august 12th show. tickets go on sale sunday by
calling ticketbastard (i love that...who started it?) or the casino ballroom at
603-929-4100.
i am going to the folkfest with the amazing sue and her beau, but i am still
thinking about going to hampton beach too cause the capacity is 1800!!!!! how
cool would that be????? and it is general admission.....

anyone for sure want to go who could "talk me into it"? i wouldn't be able to
leave until 4 p.m. on that monday so i couldn't get up there way early (it's
about 2 hours from where i live in nh), but at 1800 capacity, there can't be a
bad seat in the house....

email me privately if you are going....

happy ffffffffriday,
susan

mornin'!

i have again before me the seattle pi's >what's happening< section,
and on pg. 6 they list all the folks (or at least the important
folks...) who are coming to bumbershoot.

they list the presidents of the united states..., ani difranco,
phoebe snow, indigo girls, vic chestnutt, crash test dummies, spin
doctors, etc., etc., etc. as in all in the same column. as in
coming to bumbershoot.

later on down the article, it says that in addition, elvis
costello will perform with a separate admission charge of $20
blah, blah, blah. this is the only show listed like this.
everyone else (including the girls) is listed as being at the
festival. this usually means that everyone else just costs
you the $10 to get in the gate ( or the $9 advance tickets that
go on sale aug. 5---no need to sleep on the sidewalk at your
ticketmonster outlet--these would never sell out...)

sounds like elvis costello is the only separate concert. but i'm
only using deductive reasoning, here, folks.

gosh, i forgot to tell y'all the tiny tim will be there, too.

eeeeeeuuuuuuuwwwwwwww.

ann

well, i am not so scared to write to the list anymore because everyone is
just so awesome here and really made me feel welcome and i just love you
guys.  i have another story about mystery this week.  my roommate last
semester was really in love with this guy that would always come over to our
house and would just spend alot of time with her but he really wasn't
romantically intrested in her right then.  so she was always really sad
because she liked him so much and she was always thinking about him ("moved
in and made my thinking crowded") and she didn't know why he was always
around if he didn't like her (why do you spend this time with me) and it was
a really confusing time in her life so i just played her mystery and she fell
in love with it and the ig and she would listen to that song all the time
(and ghost too but that is another story).  well, eventually he started
realizing that he did have feelings for her and then they started dating and
neither of them knew what was going to happen but they got married last week
and my roomate still listens to mystery and she remembers all the old times
and stuff.   now i guess they are "equal partners in a mystery".  anyway, i
just thought i would share.  y'all are awesome.
sarah street

> i think that the unexpected touring probably just kind of happened...

i'm guessing that emily simply couldn't take it
anymore. she knew that if they didn't tour, her
chances of "accidentally" running into me would
be frightfully small, and in the end she just
cracked. frankly i'm delighted!

i-girl

"i want to be loved by you / by you and nobody else but you
i want to be kissed by you / alone
boop boop bee doo"

i-girl:

touche! love your logic!

amy

from amy's e-mail re: daemon recs

>i'm heading down to chiapas,
>mexico to stand in solidarity with the zapatistas and their struggle for land
>rights along with basic human rights.

    right fuckin' on!  for those of you who don't know about this-- the
zapatistas are a native guerilla group. the mexican gov't came into
chiapas, where they live, and told them that they have no right to own or
sell their land, even though it may have been in their families for
generations.  the mexican gov't basically claims control of the land.  a
couple of years ago these native peoples had a rebellion against the police
and the gov't, tyring to get control of their land.  the gov't/police came
in and shot and burned a football size field of people!  wish amy luck.

--sunny,
who's now listening to chiapas bound from no 5/2

> okay, i need to know what kind of small tape recorder thing is the
>best for booting a show in a rather large place.   i've seen this
>thing at wal-mart called a pressman (?) by sony, and it was about $30.  is
>this a good choice?  thanks for any information...
>
>peace, love, and plantin' tomatoes,
>ponygirl

ponygirl,

   i recently bought an aiwa hs-js216  this is a walkman type recorder from
best (cost about $60).  it records in sterio and came with a tiny little
plug in sterio microphone.  i first used it in may when i went to ca for a
couple of ani shows.  they were indoors and they came out pretty good.
then a few weeks ago i used it outdoors at the paolo soleri ampitheater in
santa fe, nm to get a boot of the cowboy junkies.  this came out pretty
good also.  tracy chapman is coming in about 2 weeks and i'll get a boot of
that show.  and ig is also coming soon for the hte tour and of course i'll
get them (amy told me personally she didn't care if people booted their
shows as long as "they don't make a lot of money" from doing it).
     i think the type of microphone used is more of an issue than the
recorder itself.  also, the best sound quality is actually about 1/2 way
back, somewhere around where they set up the soundboard.  the sound blends
best there.  although, when i saw the cowboy junkies i was third row and
sound was still good.  i wanted to see how it would come out, if it would
over-modulate or what because i am always front row for ig when they play
santa fe.
     other tips:  really familiarize youself with the recorder.  the first
show i tried i hit the pause switch accidently and even though the little
red light was on, i didn't get the show.  know how to flip the tape
quickly.  don't talk or move around alot while recording.  and when your
gettin' in to the show, don't carry anything--no blankets or backpacks, let
your friends do that.  typically, if you don't carry anything the security
waves you right in, they search bags and blankets pretty good.  security in
santa fe is harsh, i think because the ampitheater is on indian land, at a
school actually.  i stash my recorder between my breasts in my sports bra
and wear a big overshirt.  once i get in, i go to the bathroom and pull it
all out, get the mic situated, etc and borrow a shirt or something to hold
on my lap with the recorder so i can flip the tape easily.  if you have any
other questions, e-mail me privately.  good luck and have fun!  who ya
gonna see?

peace, love, and plantin' something like tomatoes, :)

--sunny

in a message dated 96-07-12 11:12:31 edt, ann, she write:

>gosh, i forgot to tell y'all the tiny tim will be there, too.
>
>eeeeeeuuuuuuuwwwwwwww.

hey !!! i like him !!!!!
did you happen to catch the interview with tiny on npr, as well
as the interview with a cool band (very eclectic can't
remember their name) that tiny collaberated with on a new cd.
it was really interesting !!!! tiny is a genuine eccentric and an
expert on early 20th century pop music :)
ya gotta love it !! (at least i do ;)

i'll be at the tiny stage if it doesn't conflict with other shows !!!

love !
popo

"where you goin' ?"
" on my merry way..."

laura nyro (the cat song)

hello!

i am going to auction off a copy of the indigo girls cd promo reverse 1 - live.

if you are interested in participating in the auction please email me
privately at <gre1440@aub.mindspring.com> to let me know.

i will not use the list to conduct the auction, as i know not everyone on
the list will want the daily updates.

thanks,
martha

        "nothing makes the earth seem so spacious
        as to have friends at a distance; they make
        the latitudes and longitudes."
                                henry david thoreau

i really like this song and its my favorite of the latest emily offerings and
on the whole it makes complete sense to me but please tell me all about the
pirate and the girl? whenever i play and sing this song i find myself musing
about the identity of the pirate and what she/he has stolen.

thoughts?

also...to all of you who were so nice and offered to help me get started with
some new/old ig stuff for my listening pleasure... i've experienced a crash
here and lost all of my mail. if you'd again just send me a quick hello i
can take y'all up on your generous offers. thanks.

michelle

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 11:37:55 -0700
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      dc show
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on thu, 11 jul 1996 dresden5@aol.com wrote:

> i do beleive the boathouse is in norfolk.....if you loo at the back of 1200
> curfews, it is one of the stickers. any idea if ig is playing more towards
> d.c.????
whoever posted the list of dates/places said dc on august 18th.  and if
you're going by that picture on 1200c, the sticker that says 9:30 is from
the 9:30 club, which is smack dab en la capital.  near freedom plaza, in
northwest, a few blocks away from the metro center subway stop, if i
remember right.  could you perhaps check this out?  (pretty please!!)
peace,
karey

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 14:26:00 edt
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      caroline aiken on the radio (nigc)

i just finished taping her 38-minute appearance on wumb radio here in boston.
e-mail me if you want a copy.
i can squeeze both it and the dar williams/bill morrissey/les sampou program
that i posted about earlier on a single 100-minute tape.
kirsten
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"is there a roman numeral for zero?"

hi there. you know how awhile back i'd posted info on pov's website.
well, the viewer response person asked me to forward this message on to
lists where there'd been discussion of pov films. fyi: i'm not involved
in any way, just a friend of someone who works there.

- elizabeth :)

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dear elizabeth,

lisa passed on your message to me -- i'm glad to hear that a litany for
survival: the life and work of audre lorde has touched so many people. i'm
not sure if lisa mentioned the segment we air twice this summer, talking
back: video letters to p.o.v...but, i did want to see if you were interested
in participating.

you also mentioned the listservs where you have been reading the mail about
the show. could you pass on my message to these people on the list, or could
i get a hold of the address and subscribe? i'd like to let people know about
talking back and to alert people to the website we have set up for litany
(you can find it at http://www.pbs.org/pov).

this is where the 'form letter' starts!

perhaps you would consider sending in your thoughts about a litany for
survival on video for our special segment 'talking back'. we encourage
anyone with strong opinions about a p.o.v. program -- positive or negative
-- to get a hold of a camcorder and make a 30 second video for talking back:
video letters to p.o.v.

here's how you can participate:
* call me -- subrata de (212) 989-8121 x314 (i'll call you right back on our
dime) to discuss details or e-mail me (talkback@pov.org) and let me know
the best way to get in touch with you...telephone, fax or e-mail
* if camcorder access is a problem, we can talk about other possibilities --
but the video letter is ideal

briefly, your video letter will require you to:
* grab a camcorder and speak your mind - 30 seconds is about right, but we
understand that you may need to give it a couple of tries -- just make sure
not to send more than 5 minutes of tape total
* include your name and the place where you live on tape (requests for
anonymity are granted)
* sign a release which allows your video to be broadcast (we'll send this to
you)

sorry for the deluge of information. i do hope you will consider being a
part of talking back. thanks again for your comments.

sincerely,

subrata de
viewer response coordinator

hi y'all,
  just wanted to update on the progress of this summer project.  i have 8 shows
and am waiting for others to arrive.  i have a request to make...does anyone
out there have a copy of the red rocks show that they would be willing to work
out a trade for?  please e-mail me privately. thanx.
  i also would like to make a final plea for any information about the following
shows.  i would really like to include them if i can find anyone who has a copy.

        austin, tx              3/24/95
        athens, oh              4/12/95
        portland, me            12/8/94
        northrup aud, mn        7/17/94
        troutdale, or           8/18?/94

i'm also interested in the following shows if anyone can help me out.

        dartmouth       4/18/95
        rochester       10/94
        brown univ.     date?
        pittsburgh, pa  10/13/94

please e-mail me privately with any information you may have and thank you
once again for helping me out. y'all are the greatest! take it easy.

peace,
amy

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 15:14:00 edt
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subject:      re: mystery

by the way, this is one of my fave songs on so...

anyway, about the pirate and the girl...

i think that it is really cool in that part how it isn't explicitly defined
which (the girl or the ship) "basks in the exploits of her thief" or "is a
very good listener".  i think this is on purpose; maybe it isn't about the
relationship between the girl and the pirate, but the ship...a pirate is a
thief, a marauder, and it would be much easier for him to have a
relationship with a ship than another human, because of his nature.  and
this kind of ties in with the questions earlier in the song--"what is love
then?...does it sing like the hymns of a thousand years, or is it just pop
emotion?" which explores different kinds of love and the many faces love can
take on.  also, the relationship between the pirate and the ship would be an
"impossibility".

wow, does that sound like a 12th grade english lit essay or what? at any
rate, those are my thoughts. take it easy!

amy

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 16:39:01 -0400
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subject:      nigr or is it nigc? anyway murmurs
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i was just wondering if anyone here besides me has heard of the murmurs
besides me they have wonderful harmonies just like the girls and i think u
all would like them if anyone wants to know mo write me
hugs anthony van pyre

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 16:47:35 edt
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subject:      va ticketmaster #? d.c. show?

hi folks!

i was just wondering if anyone had the phone # for the va ticketmaster (since
someone mentioned that you couldn't order from other states)? also, does anyone
have a confirmation on the d.c. show, prices, and *where* in d.c. it will be (if
it is, in fact, true)? one more thing... is this in conjunction with another
event?

pardon all of the questions... but, i have a friend who has a birthday pretty
soon and this sounds like a good present. my undying gratitude will go to
anyone who can help!!!

i hope everyone is having a splendid day!

thanks,

tamara

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 17:26:24 edt
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      fan tour update 7/12/96 - one more week left

the new and final due date for money to be received for this is
friday, july 19th. this supersedes all dates posted previously.

cost:

friday/saturday - $160 per room/$40 per person per night

sunday - $120 per room/$40 per person per night

send money to:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj 07016
(908)418-7115

call or e-mail me if you need any additional information

there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 15:20:03 -0700
reply-to:     gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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subject:      re: more bumberings...
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this would be good, or bad, depending on how you look at it.  i for one
would rather get tickets separately than stand in line all weekend to get
into the show. but the impression i keep getting from tm folks is that the
tickets will go on sale thru them but they don't know when yet.  it's
really up in the air.  it would be nice, i must admit, not to have to pay
the "small service charge" to the ticketmonster.  hmmmm....thanks for the
info (i don't read the pi...)

on fri, 12 jul 1996, ann m labeck wrote:

> mornin'!
>
> i have again before me the seattle pi's >what's happening< section,
> and on pg. 6 they list all the folks (or at least the important
> folks...) who are coming to bumbershoot.
>
> they list the presidents of the united states..., ani difranco,
> phoebe snow, indigo girls, vic chestnutt, crash test dummies, spin
> doctors, etc., etc., etc.  as in all in the same column.  as in
> coming to bumbershoot.
>
> later on down the article, it says that in addition, elvis
> costello will perform with a separate admission charge of $20
> blah, blah, blah.  this is the only show listed like this.
> everyone else (including the girls) is listed as being at the
> festival.  this usually means that everyone else just costs
> you the $10 to get in the gate ( or the $9 advance tickets that
> go on sale aug. 5---no need to sleep on the sidewalk at your
> ticketmonster outlet--these would never sell out...)
>
> sounds like elvis costello is the only separate concert. but i'm
> only using deductive reasoning, here, folks.
>
>
> gosh, i forgot to tell y'all the tiny tim will be there, too.
>
> eeeeeeuuuuuuuwwwwwwww.
>
> ann
>
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on 96-07-12 17:01:44 edt

103660.214@compuserve.com (tamara mizell) wrote:

>hi folks!
>
>i was just wondering if anyone had the phone # for the va ticketmaster
(since
>someone mentioned that you couldn't order from other states)? also, does
anyone
>have a confirmation on the d.c. show, prices, and *where* in d.c. it will be
(if
>it is, in fact, true)? one more thing... is this in conjunction with
another
>event?

the tm number for virginia is (804) 671-8100. there's mention of a 9:30 club
as a venue for the d.c. show, but i'm not sure where that is. anyone??

sheri

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 15:30:44 -0700
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subject:      re: chickenman and touch me fall soc
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>         troutdale, or           8/18?/94
>
if anyone has a boot of this show i have been looking for it for almost a
year, so please please let me know!  it was in fact august 18 and i
remember because it was the day before my birthday and the first time i
saw ig live (after 5 years of trying) and a total fluke that i got a
ticket at that.  so please let me know!  thanks!!!!

could anyone let me know whether the indigo girls are
even thinking about playing st. louis or chicago
in the nearish future?---i saw them july 94 in st. louis
and am missing them...thank you, tricia

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date:         fri, 12 jul 1996 19:43:40 -0400
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subject:      re: which recorder
x-to:         sun@swcp.com
in-reply-to:  <v01510103ae0bcb241179@[204.134.0.208]> from "sunny" at jul 12,
              96 11:06:43 am

hi ,
i also got a aiwa recorder, the js247, which i got on sale for 60 dollars
and haven't used yet, but testing it sounds really good except it seems the
mic picks up too much crowd noise, and i might get a directional mic, but it
does record in stereo, which is a bit better than a pressman, tho i like a
pressman if not just for the fond memories of being 17, taping people from
fugazi to paul simon to james taylor to turtle island string quartet.. i
love having the memories on tape only for my self and it is cool to have it
all on tape, it may not be audiophbile quality, but it is cool to have on
tape.
i would say stay away from radioshack stuff. i never had good luck with
anything bought from there

mike r.

sorry for the nigc, but if any of you are going to be in atlanta during the
olympics, i have the following tickets for sale:

all tickets are at face value + shipping:

(4)women's basketball-7/25 brazil vs japan/canada vs. china--@ georgia dome
8:00 pm, section 123 row 24, $32.00 each

(2) volleyball-7/27 in athens 4:00 pm section 00 row 16, $16.00 each

(2) volleyball-7/28 in athens 1:00 pm section 00 row 16, $16.00 each

(2) field hockey-7/23 @ morris brown college 9:00 am, section e104 row 3,
$16.00 each

reply to bmurphy765@aol.com

thanks,
barbara

hey all--
i have the d.c. city paper in my lap & there is no show listed yet at the
9:30 for august 18. ==> could it be in the works for a + e ??!!
the club recently moved from f. st to v st. & is much nicer-- cap. 1200 & no
scary 9:30 smell that the old location was (in)famous for. the new location
also has secure parking & people available to walk you to your car. if they
play there it will be amazing!! i do know that there is already a show for
that date at wolftrap (where they have played numerous times in the past) i
called ticketmaster today & they had no clue. the d.c. ticketmaster phone is
(202) 432-seat.
here's hoping...
alexandra

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 02:38:37 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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subject:      nigc - more olympics tickets!

for those of you going to the olympics, i have a pair of olympic baseball tickets
that i would like to sell (face value for my fellow ig listies). the tickets are for
july 24th at 8:00 p.m. at atlanta-fulton county stadium and are $13 each or $26/pair.
i would prefer to sell them as a pair, but would consider selling them individually.
btw, these tickets are for gate d, aisle 103r, row 5, seats 5 & 6, for those of ya
familiar with the stadium...

peace and olympic memories,

joan :)

hey all,

sorry to post this to the list but i was wondering if anyone lives
here in georgia that would want to go to the all star country fest '96.
guests include alan jackson, tracy bird, hank williams jr., alabama, the
charlie daniels band, patty loveless and more. i was given these (2)
tickets so i'm not asking anything for them. if anyone is interested in
this, it's today all day/night.... write me here.

kim

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 14:01:52 -0400
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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subject:      ig new hampshire tickets!

greetings all in indigo land!

tickets are now on sale for the ig show 8\12 at hampton beach ballroom
casino, in hampton beach, nh.  you can call their box office directly at
1-603-929-4100 to get tickets, with a cheaper surcharge than tm, or you
can try calling the nh tm at 1-603-626-5000 if your local tm does't sell
them.  i am now the happiest person in rain trodden northampton today!!!
two days of ig in a row, could it get any better?  if anyone is going
to make the trip from nff to this show, of if anyone is going to this
show, it would be cool to meet up.  keep in touch with me about it.
take care and peace!

-deb

ani di franco puts bits of other people's ongs in her own sometimes, and when
i saw her in boston this spring, she did closer to fine. it rocked.

-larissa

hello folks!

we all know that we will be singing our hearts out when a&e take the stage in
newport, but what about doing it before they get up there as well?

i was thinking it would be a lot of fun to get the few thousand people at fot
adams involved in a little singalong. here's how it would work....

between ig and the previous act, a few of the people from the list would get
up and start to make people aware of what's about to happen.  the words to an
ig song -- i've been thinking of a nice slow one like secure yourself would
be nice, but ctf might be easiest because everyone knows the words -- would
be printed on large signs (we may need to paint them on bedsheets or security
might "borrow" them before we get inside).  someone would get to play the
role of the bouncing ball, running and pointing at the words as it is time to
sing them.  hopefully the people would partake in our little experiment, and
sing.  we would need to do some pretty good advertising so it wouldn't take
them completely by surprise, possibly we could hand out tiny pieces of paper
(i know this is not environmentally sound, maybe we can think of an
alternative) with the words to the song and an explanation of what we are
doing.

ok, well, i had this little idea in my head, and if it worked, i think it
would be pretty amazing. (if it fails, i'd be embarassed for a few minutes,
but i'd get over it.) i thought i would run it by the list first to see what
people thought, and if anyone liked the idea and was interested in helping
make it happen.

let me know your thoughts/interests.

have a great day,

kevin s. minoli

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 15:58:33 -0400
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wow..  mt first post to the list in months.  anyway, i just got tix to
the new hampshire show, and it's 18+!  i was surprised (and thankful
that 18 was several years ago for me--it would suck to be underage for an ig
show!).  anyway, they said you have toshow positive id at the door, and
that you are also not allowed to wear tank tops, ripped jeans, and cutoff
shorts.  fyi, since there are probably several ig fans who live in the
above attire.

until newport,
margaret

kevin!

what an excellent idea! i am all for it!

do you think the best western sheets are good enough??

jan

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 14:23:51 -0600
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subject:      my gf and her crashed car (nigc)

oh tragic tragic day.  my gf totalled her car last night, and it was on
the way to pick me up!  but wait!  it could be worse!  i was rescued by a
hansom chicano man, heavy with accent and good looks, came to get me.
there are still genuinely good people in the world!  enough of cynicism
for a few days!

happy ig-ing,

chris ii (who hasn't posted in for-f-ing-ever so deal with my nigc!:-))
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

"i cannot believe that the
universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
--kevin smith

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 15:04:39 -0400
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subject:      re: others covering ig
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ani also covered the closer to fine snippet at the providence show (april
17), to which i can furnish (not great sound quality) boots to interested
parties. it is not always included in this particular medley, but it is
pretty cool. also, sarah lee has been touring with ani and was at the
providence show (presumably the boston show as well.

furthermore, the recent shows have a lot of new stuff from dilate on them
for those who are interested in the new album or who like it.

the more i study hitory
the more i seem to find
that in every generation
there were times like that time
when people like you and me
who thought that we were all alone
within this honored movement found a home.
-si kahn

i need tickets for the 8/15 show in philly! i called this morning and i
didn't buy them cause i wasn't sure if i could go or not, and now i can
go, and the tickets are all sold out... i'm so sad... sooooo sad...

someone out there, please tell me that you have two tickets that i could
buy!!!! i'd offer ya $60, which is a little more than what i think you
would pay....

please help me!!!
thanks! :)
renee

sorry to take up space with this but:

cylinda,
please send me your e-mail. i got the tape, but i think the puppy
ate the letter. :(

thanks,
deb

i think aretha franklin said it best.

r-e-s-p-e-c-t

is what every human and other living creature deserves.

imho.

(i guess i think respect would include letting me marry who i want and hold
my sweetie's hand on the street w/o fear, etc. that's the same respect i'd
give anyone else. to be free to be yourself and do your own thing)

love to all of you

larissa

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 20:30:27 -0400
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fun fun fun... i'm all for that! heck, i know that i love
to sing ig all of the time... what a great idea for the festival.
leather lungs here i come! :)

andrea

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date:         sat, 13 jul 1996 20:42:41 -0400
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subject:      what this gay person wants (new! but still nigc)

this dyke wants you all to check out her lbga web page:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~maclayto/rainbow.html

all nice for cut and paste. :)

margaret

so, we're discussing mystery? i had to step out of the lurking place to
comment. this song has touched my life as few songs are able.

mystery was one of "our songs". when i introduced her to the ig, she
decided that mystery fit us best. we were (and are) very different. i had
rules about straight women, women i worked with, and many other rules that
she exploded. she a married woman with a child and i a lesbian. we worked
together. at our hospital softball games she'd say... "i'm going to come
over to your side of the fence." i'd smile and tell her that i'd fix her up
with someone. but she had other things in mind. we spent lots of time
together. i designed her tattoo. we talked a lot about how we felt just
being close.

we tried and failed (some chasms are far too wide to vault). when we see
each other now, she repeats these words:

"...and maybe that's all that we need is to meet in the middle
    of impossibility
    standing at opposite poles
    equal partners in a mystery..."

lori

i only need one more ticket to the 8/15 philly show! please let me know
if you can't (or have an extra ticket!) go!!!!!!!

email me now!!!!
renee

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