lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-07c


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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 01:29:23 -0400
reply-to:     emily shu <emilys@snet.net>
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from:         emily shu <emilys@snet.net>
subject:      newport two day passes

hey all.  i was wondering if anyone had extra 2 day passes for newport just
lying around, looking for friendly fans who'd love to save some money.  a
few of my friends recently decided that ig, ani, suzanne vega, etc. were
just too good to miss.  unfortunately, they missed the deadline for the two
day passes.  so, does anyone have any extras?  thanks!  -emily :)

"i just hope it was o.k., i know it wasn't perfect
i hope in the end we can laugh and say
it was all worth it...
we make our own gravity to give weight to things
then things fall and they break
and gravity sings"
-a.d.

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 03:20:40 -0400
reply-to:     kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
subject:      birthday! (14 jul)

happy birthday to:
cbunten@ped-gen-po.ped-gen.uiowa.edu    carol bunten
        "there i am in younger days, stargazing, painting picture
perfect maps of how my life and love would be. not counting the
unmarked paths of misdirection, my compass, faith in love's
perfection, i missed 10 million miles of road i should have seen"
        -e. saliers, love's recovery
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what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 03:39:58 -0400
reply-to:     kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
subject:      i named my dog!(nigc)

hey all, thanks for the suggestions on what to name my puppy. i have
decided to go with...(drumroll) riley! i was going to name her emily
(i am a definite emily person), but then i started thinking of how i
would feel if someone named their dog after me. maybe nextime. next
will be emily or indigo. it took me almost a monthe to name this one-
i guess i 'll cross the next bridge when i come to it. anyway, thanks
for all the suggestions!        kel
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if you don't make dust, you eat it.

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 03:43:43 -0400
reply-to:     kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
subject:      st. louis?

hey all, i guess i'm just post-happy today. long day at work i
guess. anyway-did i remember someone saying that ig would be in st
louis or dc? i just have to see them, and what else is a lonely ohio
girl to do? could someone send me dates for these shows and if there
are any tickets left? thanks! kel
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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 12:18:29 -0500
reply-to:     "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
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from:         "kirsten,
              grrl o' cognitive dissonance" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject:      happy birthday! (july 14, 1996)

cbunten@ped-gen-po.ped-gen.uiowa.edu (carol bunten):
"oh, how i wish i were a trinity so that if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live
but nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal
to let this love survive would be the greatest gift that we could give"

(_love's recovery_)

:) :) :)

[this is my last birthday post until late august or early september. time
for whoever i mailed the birthday list to (sorry, i've forgotten your name)
to take over!]

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 19:17:29 +0100
reply-to:     mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
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from:         mr neil hunt <ph21nh@surrey.ac.uk>
subject:      help!!

hey :)

remeber me??

1. i have no time togothrough this...ig's are playing where near me?
   (i'm in lancacste, pa for the summer remember?)

2. get me off of this list!!!i think i lost count of the number of
times i tried to do this the right way, but i just don't have email
anymore, and hence...

the answer to question 1 above should be either...

1.  call 717 560 0272
2.  email mcgrawan@acm.msu.edu


thankyou.

i love you all. forever.
maybe.

@}--,--'---


ps don't reply to me here, i never check it...


  |\/\/\/| neil hunt :)          'and in the end...
  |      |  the white house        the love you take
  |      |   old quay lane          is equal to
  | (o)(o)    st. germans            the love
  c      _)  saltash                  you make...
  |   __|   cornwall                   *guitary twiddley bit*'
  |   /    pl12 5lh                      @}--,--'---
/____\   england                        'and now...the end is near...'
/      \ +44 (0)1503 230505               'into the great wide open...'

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 16:42:36 -0400
reply-to:     ncrobino@aol.com
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from:         ncrobino@aol.com
subject:      96 late orders received..7/14/96

here are the late orders in.

becky padilla 1 l (last to be filled)
michelle lattanzio 1 xxl
tracey brough 2 xl(last to be filled)
melissa m virago 1 xxl (last to be filled)
amy krisko 1 xxl

thats it!
take care
rob

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 16:42:20 -0400
reply-to:     ncrobino@aol.com
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from:         ncrobino@aol.com
subject:      i'm ok! bertha is gone :)

just a note to say thanks to everyone who expressed concern for me when i had
to take off cause of bertha.  we just got our power back today..sunday.  it
went out on friday morning.  lots of damage..but nothing too serious.  she
hit us here in wilmington dead on!  i am glad thats over.
take care all and thanks!
rob augino

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 17:28:49 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@clark.net>
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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: dc show

x-shameless cd-plug: ani difranco, dilate
lines: 21

karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>on thu, 11 jul 1996 dresden5@aol.com wrote:
>
>> i do beleive the boathouse is in norfolk.....if you loo at the back of 1200
>> curfews, it is one of the stickers. any idea if ig is playing more towards
>> d.c.????
>whoever posted the list of dates/places said dc on august 18th.  and if
>you're going by that picture on 1200c, the sticker that says 9:30 is from
>the 9:30 club, which is smack dab en la capital.  near freedom plaza, in
>northwest, a few blocks away from the metro center subway stop, if i
>remember right.

it moved to near 18th & v sts., nw (closest to u street - cardozo stop on
the green line, but i wouldn't walk from there...)

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"nothin' is fruitless when time is so infinite / a life might be short
but an idea can be endless" - cindy lee berryhill, "unknown master painter"

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 21:00:37 -0400
reply-to:     ruthless11@aol.com
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from:         ruth frobe <ruthless11@aol.com>
subject:      re: more bumber rumblings

i went to see everything but the girl friday night at the pier here in
seattle...at the concert an official-type bumbershoot dude announced that
yes, indeed, ig were included in bumbershoot...he read a list of performers
(presidents of usa, etc.) who were going to be there--which seems to indicate
that ig will be part of bumbershoot (i.e. we won't have to get separate
tickets, just stand in line all day...which i suggest since i didn't get in
to see ani difranco last year!)...anyway...hope to meet many of you labor day
weekend (this is my first posting here!)...by the way, everything but the
girl was a really good show!

-ruth frobe

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 21:06:58 -0500
reply-to:     david sue <sue_j@popmail.firn.edu>
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from:         david sue <sue_j@popmail.firn.edu>
subject:      enhanced cd?

hi all!
i've decided to break my listserv silence to bring this bit of info about future ig projects.
y'all have been so helpful to me and i just had to share this info. anyway, i was reading
this article on the www about enhanced cds at
  http://www.onlineinc.com/online/cdrompro/0196cp/01block.html and i read the following:

  "according to barry johnson, head of new technology for epic records group of new york, "it
is one thing to talk about the technology and another thing to see it." epic is expected to
release enhanced cd titles this year from such disparate stars in the pop music firmament as
gloria estefan, ==>indigo girls<==, and ozzy osbourne."
                                            (debbie galante block)

  also i read about a compilation cd coming out at the web site:
          http://www.icemagazine.com/ice/docs/npandr.html

it's called:
women live from mountain stage and it features emmy lou harris, k.d. lang, ==>indigo
girls<==, joan baez, ani difranco, ann & nancy wilson (blue plate)

just wanted to pass along my findings, hope this isn't old news!
    david (hey sarah!)

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 21:10:25 -0500
reply-to:     david sue <sue_j@popmail.firn.edu>
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from:         david sue <sue_j@popmail.firn.edu>
subject:      enhanced cd (cont.)

hi again!
sorry to take up bandwidth, but i forgot to tell y'all that the compilation cd is expected august 13th! i have
no word on the enhanced cd tho!
david :)

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date:         sun, 14 jul 1996 22:46:00 -0400
reply-to:     rbsayre@aol.com
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from:         richard sayre iii <rbsayre@aol.com>
subject:      re: enhanced cd?
x-to:         sue_j@popmail.firn.edu

ooh! that would be sooo cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i've got an enhanced cd (2 actually) from sarah mclachlan that are just plain
neat!!!

:)
rick
*listening to pretty and twisted*
<a href="http://www.netcom.com/~rbsayre/stuff.html">rick sayre's page for the
undeniably weird!</a>

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 00:58:44 -0400
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      atlanta pride boot (this is it!)

greetings all in indigo land!


the time is here to put your requests in for the atlanta pride '96 boot.
the tree is set up so that you can email to the branch for which
astrological sign you are.  please send an email to the branch representative
with the request, anthey will r let you know they recieved your request.
here is what you will need to do after that:

        send a 100 minute blank tape with a sase to your branch
        contact once they give you their mailing address.  please
        make sure that you have enough postage for the return of
        your tape, by having the post office weigh it for you.

here are the branches:

aquarius:  (elise)  emf@pop3.lightlink.com
pisces:    (jan)    janisdale@aol.com
aries:     (sarah)  sanawike1@aol.com
taurus:    (sue)    sharney@javanet.com
gemini:    (bonnie) bonster@alaska.net
cancer:    (lisa)   lmayne@u.washington.edu
leo:       (chris)  guinione@aol.com
virgo:     (melissa)hdtx97a@prodigy.com
libra:     (shelly) smoore33@ix.netcom.com
scorpio:   (lorie)  mediamongr@aol.com
sagittarius(stacy)  ssheperson@uoknor.edu
capricorn: (cami)   sl6tc@cc.usu.edu


canada:  (sarah)  andrews@cs.concordia.ca

europe:  (claudia)   claudiav@xs4all.nl

uk:   (julian)  stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk

asia/australia:  (anna)  ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph


i would like to thank jude for doing an excellent job on the liners.
i never thought the photo of the crowd i took that day would end up
as a liner for this project.  thanks to jude, it did and it looks great!

if there are any questions or problems with people getting in touch with
their branches please let me know and i will do my best to get any kinks
out.  thank you all for being so patient and waiting for this offer.


thank you all for sharing this music with me and each other.  :)

take care and peace!

-deb

doobie@student.umass.edu

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 00:32:52 -0600
reply-to:     lkj <donna2@unm.edu>
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from:         lkj <donna2@unm.edu>
subject:      re: enhanced cd?
in-reply-to:  <960714224559_434218882@emout17.mail.aol.com>

ok, showing my high-tech ignorance, but are enhanced cds the things that
can be viewed through computer cd-roms?  if so, i'll be watching it in my
university's computer room - sitting and grinning among all those poor
folks doing actual homework:)

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 09:11:22 -0400
reply-to:     whatiheard@aol.com
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from:         whatiheard@aol.com
subject:      ig in creative loafing

not sure if this has been posted yet, but the atl based weekly newspaper
creative loafing has the indigo girls and the honor the earth tour as it's
cover story this week.  to view the online version point your browser to:

http://www.cln.com/

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 08:54:07 est
reply-to:     paul_j._sgroi_at_01cld__lkst@ccmail.c-tec.com
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi_at_01cld__lkst@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      one more cover!

     i just thought of another tune for indigo girls to cover:  picture
     this>> elton john's 'captain fantastic & the brown dirt cowboy'
     can i produce this one, also???                        ...paul

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 08:54:05 -0500
reply-to:     dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
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from:         dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
subject:      ig in austin

howdy y'all,

so fare i have not been able to find out any specific ticket information =
on tickets. tickets do go on sale this saturday july 20th, probably at =
10 am. tickets are going to be sold through star tickets here in austin, =
but star would not tell me prices or if the seating is going to be =
general admission or reserved seating.

either way i plan on being in line at 7 am this saturday.... last time =
ig played here the sold out their first show very quickly and had to =
schedule a second show.

word to the wise... . if it turns out that seating is going to be =
general admission or "festival" seating, then get to the backyard very =
early on the day of the concert. last time i went to an ig show there we =
got there about 1 1/2 hours early and there was already a huge line!! =
somehow we still ended up with 4th row seats!!!!!!!

also, i was wondering if anyone coming to the show would like to get =
together earlier in the day for an early dinner or perhaps better yet, =
get together after the show, so we have something to excitedly babble =
about and annoy other diners!!! there are a couple of 24 hour a day =
restaurants here in austin, kerby lane for one...

peace y'all,

dan perkins

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:08:50 edt
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      what's goin' on, dc?

has anybody in the d.c. area heard *anything* about tickets?  i've called
ticketmaster and the 9:30 club concert line and nothing!!

jude

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:13:53 -0400
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      atlanta pride boot--important info.

greetings all in indigo land!

i have a few notes about the pride boot, first a typo to correct:

pisces:  (jan)  janinsdale@aol.com

this is the correct address, i missed an 'n' in the origional post.


capricorn:  (cami)  sl6tc@cc.usu.edu

        please do not send request until after july 20th, since
        cami will be out of email range for this week, and we
        wouldn't want to clog up her account with messages that
        might get lost with overflowing mail.

any other questions, please email me and i will try to answer them asap.

here is what is on the tape for those who did not see the earlier posts.


hash
----
keep on growin'
fool for your love
levon
high horse w/amy ray

indigo girls
------------
galileo
chickenman
get out the map
same lost tribe w/rache alpert
shame on you
southern man w/kristen hall
wlid horses w/michelle malone

viva la diva
------------
freedom
silver bullets
like a woman
in the afternoon
ultra angel
mccartney

let me know if there is anything else you would like to know about it,
or if there are any other questions.  thanks for your patience.

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:16:45 edt
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nh show...

*smile*

at 10 am sunday morning i landed myself 5 tickets to the hampton beach
show.  as kermit would say, "yeeeaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

here is the story as far as i know.  tickets are $25, ticketbastard
added on 4.95 per ticket as a "convienence charge" (some convienence
-- they hung up on me once, were barly audible, made me spell
i-n-d-i-g-o, and couldn't give me any info on the venue).
ticketbastard is 931-2000 in boston, but after my experience you
might want to call the venue directly.

so does anyone have any info on the place itself?  tm indicated there
was table seating, which made me wonder if this was a chastain park
sort of thing, but it wasn't availaible 2 minutes after the tickets
went on sale so that may have been a placeholder in the machine.

margret (welcome back margret!) said there was a dress code, so i'm
confused.  if anyone has a phone number, let me know and i'll post
what i find out to the list.

                                -- chris

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:25:16 edt
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: nh show...
x-to:         cmbecker@netspace.org
in-reply-to:  <199607151416.kaa28138@netspace.org>; from "christopher m.
              becker" at jul 15, 96 10:16 am

i wrote:

> if anyone has a phone number, let me know and i'll post
> what i find out to the list.

but deb wrote (long before me):

> tickets are now on sale for the ig show 8\12 at hampton beach ballroom
> casino, in hampton beach, nh.  you can call their box office directly at
> 1-603-929-4100 to get tickets

i should really check my back email better before i ask a question ;)

thanks for the info deb.

                                -- chris

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:24:41 -0400
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      caroline aiken and kristen hall

greetins all in indigo land (again)!

i was fortunate enough to go see caroline aiken yesterday afternoon
at club passim in cambridge, ma.  she was incredible!  it was a great
show, nice atmosphere and great music.  i had heard a few of caroline's
songs in the past, but this was really great.  if you get a chance to
see her, do it.  you can get info about her touring and cd's by emailing
loreq@primenet.com   or check out her homepage at
http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/

also, i found out that kristen hall will be performingm at the somerville
theatre (near boston) on sat. october 5th at 7:00, with the burns sisters
and richard shindell.  you can get info by callling 617-628-3390.  the
tickets are $15.50 and $14.50, and a dollar less for students and seniors.
i can't wait to see kristen again.  she was so great at pride, i really
wish i had recorded her performance too, unfortuantely i didn't have my
camera that day.

does kristen have a mailing list or email address i can send to so i can
get info about other dates she will be playing.  i hope she will come
to western mass on this tour.  thanks for your help.

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 07:30:57 -0700
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: nh show...
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199607151416.kaa28138@netspace.org>

> at 10 am sunday morning i landed myself 5 tickets to the hampton beach
> show.  as kermit would say, "yeeeaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

i got ,mine on sat.  ig twice in two days.  cool :)

>
> here is the story as far as i know.  tickets are $25, ticketbastard
> added on 4.95 per ticket as a "convienence charge" (some convienence

the service charge at the outelts is $3.25.

> so does anyone have any info on the place itself?  tm indicated there
> was table seating, which made me wonder if this was a chastain park
> sort of thing, but it wasn't availaible 2 minutes after the tickets
> went on sale so that may have been a placeholder in the machine.

i saw paular poundstone there a couple of years ago.  personally,
i think it is kind of an odd venue for a concert.  they do have
tables, think comedy club type of thing.  the room is wider than it
is long.  but, if they have it set up much like paula's how, some
tables will literally but up against the stage.  dont know if they
might put some sort of buffer there for this show.  you can get drinks/
cocktails.  i cant recall if there is food, but there might be.

kall the same, it should be fun!


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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 10:22:07 -0600
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subject:      re: nh show...

>> here is the story as far as i know.  tickets are $25, ticketbastard
>> added on 4.95 per ticket as a "convienence charge" (some convienence
>
>the service charge at the outelts is $3.25.

if you order direct from the venue (603-929-4100) the handling charge
is/was $2.00.

deb

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subject:      re: what's goin' on, dc?

i too called ticketmaster.  the lady told me that they do not handle tickets for
the 9:30 club anymore.  she said that an agency called *protix* handles their
ticket sales.  however, i have no numbers for that agency.  anyone local to d.c.
have more info?  sorry... that's all i can contribute to the mystery.

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subject:      tickets-mystery

hey all, i've got another startling insight. mystery is about getting
tickets to the show! think about it! (ok, maybe not...=) hugs and
smoochies, kel
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subject:      austin ticket info?

hey y'all,

does anybody have any austin ticket info, especially the number to call?  i
believe they go on sale this saturday, right?  anyone know if it's throught
ticketmaster, or through star tickets?  also, anyone heard a ticket price?
any help would be great, can't wait for the show!

cylinda

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subject:      wash dc

hi...

this may be redundant, but according to the web, the number for the 9:30
club is
(202) 393 0930.  there is also a homepage, www.930.com but it doesn't seem
to work with my browser.  if anybody gets tix info, let me know!

amy

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subject:      the "not a tour" tour

hi all,

well, since i thought i wasn't going to make it to any of those
last minute ig shows :(, i madly deleted all the posts about them
so i wouldn't cry every time i logged on...  however, i have since
learned that my whereabouts on the weekend of aug 16 will be the
new englandy :) area because a very very very kind friend of mine is
taking me to see melissa in syracuse (yay! - thanks chris!!!).  so
what i want to know is, where will the girls be on the 17th&18th?

thanks much in advance and peace to you all...

-sarah

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subject:      ig in austin

hi all,

i called star ticket outlets here in austin and they still say they do =
not have any information about tickets.=20

if you are going to order tickets for the backyard show, and you want to =
order by phone, the number is 512-416-7827. that's star ticket outlets.

i will keep calling star during the week and will post additional =
information as soon as i receive it.

peace y'all,

dan perkins

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subject:      ksca cd (or is it kcsa...)

hi list :)

here's a quesion for all of you southwesterners...  has the kcsa
cd sold out yet so can we start dubbing?  i don't want to keep my
list buddies waiting...

thanks muchly,

-sarah

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subject:      re: enhanced cd?
in-reply-to:  <960714224559_434218882@emout17.mail.aol.com>

hello all!  okay i have a silly question what exactly is an enhanced cd?

i am new to the list-serv and thought i would tell you a bit about my self...

i am currently finishing up my masters in speech communication at eastern
illinois university (charleston il).....and i fell in love with the
indigo girls when i first heard them which was in 1989.

both a & e seem to put into one perfectly constructed lyric what it would
take me at least a five page paper.  they have danced on my soul and made
an everlasting impression forever.

i am glad i got hooked with youz guyz....it has been great.  :)

peace....amy

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subject:      minneapolis

     hello all.

     in the past week or so, there has been some mention of the girls, in
     conjunction with the grammy outreach tour, coming to minneapolis. does
     anyone have any idea when and where they might be appearing?  will
     they be coming to chicago too?  is it an official concert type thing,
     or just community appearances?  any info would be great; i'd love to
     have a live fix if possible.

     peace,
     carol

     carol-bunten@uiowa.edu

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date:         mon, 15 jul 1996 15:43:22 -0400
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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      re: the "not a tour" tour
in-reply-to:  your message of "mon, 15 jul 1996 14:16:26 mdt."
              <v01540b05ae1056cf8c66@[151.186.5.88]>

hi again,

i am trying to confirm the date and location of the lewiston, ny
show - is it the 16th or 17th?  i've heard both so far.  and if
anyone can give me a location, that would rule!

baskets of peaches,

-sarah

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subject:      i promise: last cover idea!!!

     i just thought of this! currently, my son (3-yr old) is singing
     neil young's new "big time" all the time. i just called my wife from
     work(to say 'i luv ya'), and heard him singing seals & crofts' "summer
     breeze" in the background--and i thought--the girls can do s&c but not
     summer breeze -- they can do "we may pass tis way again!!!" -- yeah,
     this one's gotta be done!!! god! i really miss those guys
                                                                ...paul

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subject:      re: ksca cd (or is it kcsa...)
x-to:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
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sarah--

no -- the ksca cd has not sold out. i just bought a copy at the virgin
megastore yesterday, and they have plenty of copies left to sell.

elaine

on mon, 15 jul 1996, andrews sarah wrote:

> hi list :)
>
> here's a quesion for all of you southwesterners...  has the kcsa
> cd sold out yet so can we start dubbing?  i don't want to keep my
> list buddies waiting...
>
> thanks muchly,
>
>  -sarah
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from:         "michelle m. de la rosa" <michelldlr@aol.com>
subject:      re: ig in austin

i just called the backyard and asked them about the ticket price for the ig
concert.  they have not set the price yet, the guy i talked to said to call
back later this week.  the phone number for the backyard is 512/263-4146.
sometimes i get an automated service, sometimes i get a live person.  star
tickets have a 800 number - 1-800/966-show.

my partner and i plan on driving down from dallas to see our first ig
concert!

good luck with getting your tix,
michelle

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subject:      concerts

hi folks,

i've just got this information from the ticketmaster website...... i hope
that it is of some use to someone.

budweiser concert series
            indigo girls
       with a special guest
           the boathouse
   co-spnr blockbuster music
        sat aug 17,1996 9pm

                                         venue:boathouse
                                         primary act: indigo girls
                                         city: norfolk
                                         state: virginia
                                         event date: 17-aug-96
                                         price: $15.00
                                         ticket center information
                                         charge-by-phone information
   there is a service charge on tickets purchased at ticketmaster ticket
centers.
   tickets purchased over the telephone include a service charge and a
handling fee.

            * * * * * * * *
            indigo girls
    includes $0.25 to charity
         electric factory
   bet 6&7 callohill&spg gdn
      thu aug 15, 1996 8:00pm

                                        venue:the electric factory
                                        primary act: indigo girls
                                        city: philadelphia
                                        state: pennsylvania
                                        event date: 15-aug-96
                                        price: $22.50
                                        ticket center information
                                        charge-by-phone information
   there is a service charge on tickets purchased at ticketmaster ticket
centers.
   tickets purchased over the telephone include a service charge and a
handling fee.

   no refunds/no exchanges
           indigo girls
                * * * *
             roseland
        239 w 52nd st.,nyc
     wed aug 14,1996 8:00pm

                                       venue:roseland
                                       primary act: indigo girls
                                       city: new york
                                       state: new york
                                       event date: 14-aug-96
                                       price: $25.00
                                       ticket center information
                                       charge-by-phone information
   there is a service charge on tickets purchased at ticketmaster ticket
centers.
   tickets purchased over the telephone include a service charge and a
handling fee.


   169 ocean boulevard, nh
    hampton beach casino
             presents
           indigo girls
   18+/pos id req/no reentry
     mon aug 12,1996 9:00pm

                                      venue:hampton beach casino ballroom
                                      primary act: indigo girls
                                      city: hampton beach
                                      state: new hampshire
                                      event date: 12-aug-96
                                      price: $25.00
                                      ticket center information
                                      charge-by-phone information
   there is a service charge on tickets purchased at ticketmaster ticket
centers.
   tickets purchased over the telephone include a service charge and a
handling fee.

take care all
sharon


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                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

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subject:      gwen, please read.  nigc  newport 2 day passes

everyone, i'm so sorry to plague the list with this, but i tried sending a
message to gwen from the list, and her system kept rejecting my message and
sent back about 10 of them.  and i really need to get in contact with her,
so i thought this was the only way.  again, i'm so sorry everyone...  time's
running low...  :(  -emily

gwen,
        it would be absolutely wonderful if i could have that 2 day pass.
$55 is fine.  i'm not exactly sure how to accomplish getting the ticket, but
let's see...  if you have the actual ticket or voucher, i could have my
friend who needs it send you a check or money order for $55 with a self
addressed stamped envelope.  i would, of course, need to tell you who it is
first, so you wouldn't be too terribly confused.  does this sound like it
would work?  let me know, and thanks so much!  -emily

>i have one 2 day pass that i could send you for $55 dollars (good
>deal figuring that the deadline for that price is up...) if that is
>to much i could give you a better deal on them...i have no problem
>miracling a ticket to anyone and i just want to help people out and
>get them to the show in any way that i can so if you want a cheaper
>price just mail me and tell me how i can help...
>
>gwen

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                       what are you hiding behind that grin?
                         we catch each other with cameras,
                                trying to find out
                      what it is that keeps us from getting in"
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subject:      enhanced cd mystery!

hello all!
    i'm gonna try to shed some light on the definition of the "enhanced cd" since i'm
the one who brought up the entire subject...i _think_ the enhanced cd that epic expects
to release will be like the cranberries enhanced cd which features a discography,
interviews, writings, video, and audio clips for viewing on a pc cd-rom.  the enhanced
cd _also_ plays tracks in the standard cd player.
    however, it is unclear whether or not epic will be releasing _new_ tracks for play
on regular audio with this cd, but that'd be cool if they did :)!  unfortunately, an ig
enhanced cd won't be a bargain for those without cd-rom capabilities.  they are usually
priced at $25.00 and up! but i think it's well worth the investment!!
   you may e-mail me privately it you are still confused! thanx!
david

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subject:      d.c. protix number

hey d.c. people--
the protix number down here is (703) 218-6500. has anyone checked with
constitution hall?? i saw tori amos there & it is a neat space-- kinda like a
school auditorium.
i have been meaning to ask-- does anyone down here have any suggestions for a
good radio station-- i have heard dc101 play ig once-- & i am pretty sick of
whfs-- i don't know where else to look??

thanks,
alexandra

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subject:      concert in rochester ny???

hi everyone!

i am new, so please be patient.

can anyone tell me if ig will be playing a concert/concerts in rochester
n.y.????  how about near here???  and when???

ttfn!
elaine

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subject:      re: enhanced cd?
x-to:         cuajj1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

in a message dated 96-07-15 15:39:28 edt, cuajj1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (amy joann
jensen) writes:

<< hello all!  okay i have a silly question what exactly is an enhanced cd?
>>

welcome, amy!

the enhanced cd's that i've got are both sarah mclachlan cds ("freedom
sessions"
and "b-sides, rarities...").  when ya put them in the computer you can play
around with neat multimedia things, hear songs, see little movies.... :) it's
very very cool!!!!! :)

rick
*waitin' for the light to shine*

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from:         jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>
subject:      copyright (nigc)
x-cc:         123dgp@olywa.net, leitgebl@elwha.evergreen.edu,
              pbenson@cac.washington.edu, jason@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu,
              wongy@elwha.evergreen.edu

hi i need your advice. i got this email about my web page (sorry for taking
up so much bandwidth) ----->


date: thu, 11 jul 1996 13:42:11 -0400
from: jeffrey89@aol.com
to: saulinoj@elwha.evergreen.edu
subject: your leibovitz page

i visited your page today. as i represent annie leibovitz, i find the
unauthorized use of her work to be a violation of all international copyright
conventions. i urge you to take these images off your site at once or risk
legal action.

jeffrey d. smith

____________________________________
this is what i was thinking about saying to him:

i did not mean to infringe on any copyright laws, but there is a problem
with changing my homepage. i graduated in june and i do not have access to
the server it resides on. the whole page is supposed to be deleted over the
summer by the school.

i am really sorry to have upset anyone with my simple page, which, i should
add was created with images that were already on the www. i did not
personally scan any images for this page.

jeni saulino

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i was wondering, do you think this guy is legit and i should be worried?
or that i am approaching this in the right direction. i really feel that
what i did was not wrong, and i should not have to remove the images.

i guess i need to respond to him pretty soon.

check out my page for yourself and let me know what you think:
http://192.211.16.13/individuals/saulinoj/annie.html


jeni

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subject:      re: nigc--olympics tix

sorry--nigc--i think i remember someone posting about extra olympics tickets
they have...i have a friend in san francisco who may need some...please e
mail me if you have some to get rid of!  thanks--
-ruth

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subject:      bfe/sotw ?

hello all,

     wouch, there sure is a lot of ticket scramblings in the air. sorry
to see it. but, i hope everyone gets what their needing...
     well, i was wondering if anyone has any info on big fish ensemble's
tour itinerary. i can't seem to find it in their page. could i be blind?
if so, i still could use some help here... anyone?
     btw, i was also wondering how one goes about nominating the song of
the week. i have one in mind and <not sure if this one has been discussed
before> i'd really like to hear y'alls feedback. the song's romeo and
juliet. and, something comes to mind every time i think about it. i seem
to remember this song, about 6-7 years ago being referred to, by people
here, as just romeo. was that just short for the entire name? if anyone
has any input and can share it with me <if it doesn't make it to the song
of the week, please e-mail me privately. thanks~

                                                                kim

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subject:      looking for susan marine

sorry to do this but i'm trying to find someone i met through this
group.    disregard the rest.

susan marine, i hear through another mutual ig list fan that you have
made it to nh!   welcome to new england!!!

my name is melissa marquis.   i emailed a bit back while you were
still in colorado.    remember?    i am from the boston area.


mmarquis@i-kinetics.com

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subject:      1995:  interview

march ??, 1995 -- queensland pride

closest to fine
(interview done by catherine mckenzie)

touring down under

after over fifteen years of performing together, the girls finally made it
to australia in february, much to the delight of their fans around the country.

explaining why it has taken them so long to get here, amy said, "we just
take things one step at a time. i think when we came out with our first
record we really wanted to concentrate on the states and we did a little bit
of europe but not much. we wanted to feel comfortable before venturing out.
then we were so tired all the time. we never thought we could tour over here
because we felt like it would be more difficult than it actually is.

" the idea of the twenty hour plane flight, how much money it costs: the
whole thing seemed so daunting. then it got to a point where it was just
ridiculous that we hadn't played here yet. we always wanted to come here so
we made it happen."

australian audiences were very receptive to the girls, although audience
reaction has varied from city to city.

"we played in melbourne at a big old theatre and it sort of rendered
everybody quiet for the most part. at the end of the show they were really
rowdy. we're used to american audiences- there's a lot of participation and
it's very vocal. then we played in canberra and the crowd was amazing.  they
were on their feet, in a club. it was a completely different environment."

back home in the states, amy and emily usually tour with a full band. in
australia, they were only accompanied by sara lee who they describe as "the
best bass guitarist in the world".

"there's something to be said for just presenting ourselves as what we are,
since this is the first time we've toured australia", emily said. "sara's in
the group but she's more like an embellishment. that's the way we started
touring in the states too, it was just the two of us."

the trouble with touring

although they are practiced hands when it comes to touring, it is still
something that the girls find grueling. a testament to the problems it can
cause can be found in the girls' latest album swamp ophelia. the song
'fugitive' written by amy, looks at the conflicting demands of love, work
and privacy.

"my music permeates my life in so many different ways", amy said. "i have so
many other things going on, and my relationship is with a musician too. that
song was really about how you deal with being in the same career within your
relationship, where you're both dealing with the same privacy issues."

"my priorities have changed a lot and i think 'fugitive' is a recognition of
that. i used to be extremely career-oriented. everything was indigo girls,
24 hours a day, and a lot of it had to do with ego.  now my priorities are
to my relationship and to my family. i love music but we've gotten better at
setting boundaries and having parameters. i've also moved to a place and
no-one knows where i live so i don't have to deal with privacy invasion and
things like that."

emily handles things differently. "as far as priorities go, it sort of
depends on my state of mind. there are times when i feel that i really want
to curb however much touring we're doing, particularly if i'm homesick."

"i sort of just check into my life and see what feels out of balance and
then set my priorities according to that. and it can change. i do enjoy
touring. i enjoy everything we do, but when you're away from home you miss
so much of your life. i miss my family, my friends, my relationship and my
community. it just gets to a point when you slow the touring down."

slowing down their touring schedule is exactly what the girls intend to do,
but not before they put in a few more months of hard work. on their return
to the states, they will begin a month- long college tour, before doing
three weeks of native american benefits, a cause which is close to their
hearts. they then plan to take a couple of months off before putting
together a live album.

"we've been taping (our shows) for about five years, and it'll be fun to go
through it all and decide what to use," amy said. "we're not going to do
overdubs or anything. we're just going to listen to the tapes then mix them,
so it's going to be real live."

once the live album is completed, emily and amy plan to take a twelve month
break.

staying friends

the break that they have from work will also give them a chance to spend
more time apart.

"we know each other so well, it's like being sisters almost and we give each
other plenty of space."  emily said. "we don't hang out together when we go
home. we might run into each other- it's not like we're not friendly- but we
don't make it a point to get together socially. on tour, when we're not busy
doing interviews or whatever, we're doing our own thing- reading our own
books, doing separate workouts, stuff like that."

another part of maintaining their working relationship is the deep
appreciation they each have for what the other can do.

"musically, creatively, i appreciate what amy can do," emily added. "i know
that it's things i can't do and it gives me a chance to live through a kind
of music and expression, that i can't write myself.  in that sense, i really
appreciate that part of the partnership. it makes it interesting- it keeps
it interesting."

a powerful gift

one of the strengths of the indigo girls is the emotive power of their
songs. they admit that the emotional response they get from audiences is
sometimes overwhelming, particularly when people begin to cry and shake
during their performances.

"i think we're aware that music has power, because we can be inspired by
people too, and it doesn't matter what level of fame they're on. i have
friends that aren't even on record labels and i would drive across the
country to see play. if i was in the mood to hear them, and i just had to, i
would get on a plane. so i'm aware that music has that kind of power. i
think it's very personal. there's some unknown thing that touches you," amy
said.

i sort of feel like whatever it is that's happening, is a channeling," emily
added. "you don't own your creative power. it's something that's a gift to
you, like to me and amy. it's not like i possess this power and i can do
this to people. it's sort of like i'm thankful for the experience. i'm
thankful to be part of it."

perhaps one of the most remarkable things about the indigo girls is the
melding which takes place between their distinctive styles. part of their
creative process is coming together to hear each other's work and discuss
the dynamics of individual songs.

"we have a very analytical way of doing it actually," amy said. "we go
through it and say, 'this sounds like something you might sing'. or i'll
have six extra lines that i couldn't put into a song that are really
important. like in 'reunion' (on swamp ophelia), i had a whole extra verse
so i stuck it behind another verse (as a harmony). that's a thing we always
do. anytime you hear extra words in there, it's something that we couldn't
fit into a song."

in addition to the songs they perform together, there are also those that
they do solo.

according to amy: "they were always pretty obvious. i mean, if my voice came
into 'fare thee well' (performed solo by emily on swamp ophelia) it would
sound like this elephant stepping through a china cabinet you know...ggrrrrr.

'fare thee well' is a heart-wrenching ballad, a type of song which has
almost become a trademark for emily. indeed, during their brisbane concerts
(sic), one of the songs which elicited the strongest audience response was
the ballad 'ghost' from their 'rites of passage' album.

"i think i feel things very deeply," emily said. "i think a lot about love
and relationships, so i write about it. when i was writing 'ghost', i was
thinking about the experience of never being able to get over someone in
particular and being haunted forever and how endless and painful yet
powerful that is. i think a lot of people have had that experience and
continue to have it."

next to their emotional songs, the indigo girls are perhaps best known for
the way they have used their music to deal with various social issues. along
with native americans, they have focused on women, holocaust survivors,
gypsies, gays (both emily and amy came out publicly in 1993) and road
fatalities. but amy says they don't pick issues, issues pick them.

"as a basic tenant, we're into the sacredness of all life. that's probably
the one thing that we agree about completely. that's our jumping-off point
for everything that we do. personally, i've had issues with animal rights
for my whole life. wanting to be a woman who can go her own way and not be
discriminated against has been my whole life too."

girls on film

although they may not have any acting ambitions, there are some things that
the girls would like to try.

for emily, it's playing the piano. "i'm going to do that in our time off."

amy, on the other hand, wants to learn to play the guitar better. "i want to
sit in a room for a year with an amplifier and just bang my head against the
wall and learn how to play lead. that's what i want to do. that's what i've
wanted to do for ten years and i've just been too lazy."

part of their ambition to gain new skills comes from listening to other
people's music. knowing there is someone better than they makes them strive
harder. according to emily, however, that knowledge can be as debilitating
as it is inspiring.

for amy, inspiration comes from "knowing there's someone not as good".
hastily she added, "no, i'm just kidding, that's a joke. my dad always used
to say 'there's always gonna be somebody better and always gonna' be
somebody worse, it just depends on how you look at it amy!' "

whichever way you look at it, emily saliers and amy ray are entertaining,
talented and inspiring. summing them up is perhaps best done by misquoting
one of their own songs- they are, quite simply, very close to fine!

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 09:51:54 -0400
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
subject:      dc tickets

hey kids!!!!!!! i heard that protix was supposed to be selling tix for
the dc show, but when i called they had no clue what i was talking
about. is ticketbastard selling them, or what? when exactly (and where
)is the dc show? is there a lewiston, ny show? when? i am just full of
questions! i am just trying to figure out the closest show and if i
can make it! thanks!!!!   kel

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reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: enhanced cd?
x-to:         rbsayre@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <960716002848_577596695@emout12.mail.aol.com> from "richard sayre
              iii" at jul 16, 96 00:28:49 am

sarah m. has a b-sides album??????????

am i living under a rock or is this same as fs or some import only made in
eastern estonia? what is on it????

sorry for the nigc, but i figure a) lots of people love sarah on this list,
and b) if i didnt know about it, lots of others would not also

igc: hampton beach is going to rock even if the other people slated to play
there this summer include winger, and vince neil and the monkee's reunion
tour...the place is a cheesy venue (especially since the state theater in
portland, me would be the place to see ig)  but it is small (not 1800, 800
to maybe 1000 seats max.) and the seats will be the same as what amy putnam
posted. but if we get list members to rush to those tables and hold them for
other listee's, well, it would be like seeing them in a coffee shop.


mike r.

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 10:25:44 gmt
reply-to:     patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
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from:         patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
subject:      new lyrics

i'm sure someone has posted them before so *forgive me* but does anyone have
the lyrics to get out the map, chiapas bound, and shame on you? if you do,
forewarding them shall be appriciated!

still waiting on the d.c. show......
rob

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 10:36:54 edt
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      getting nh tables....
x-to:         asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu
in-reply-to:  <9607161359.aa26681@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>; from "michael
              reynolds" at jul 16, 96 9:59 am

> igc: hampton beach is going to rock even if the other people slated to play
> there this summer include winger, and vince neil and the monkee's reunion
> tour...the place is a cheesy venue (especially since the state theater in
> portland, me would be the place to see ig)  but it is small (not 1800, 800
> to maybe 1000 seats max.) and the seats will be the same as what amy putnam
> posted. but if we get list members to rush to those tables and hold them for
> other listee's, well, it would be like seeing them in a coffee shop.

mike,

  i take it the tables are also general admission?  is it possible for
every ig-listee to call and reserve them?  i'm bringing up 5 from
boston. if we can reserve, i'd like a table for 2 and a table for 3
please, and we'll fill in with anyone wearing one of rob's t-shirts!

                                --- chris

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 10:46:19 -0400
reply-to:     dkneale@epix.net
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from:         dkneale@epix.net
subject:      philly show (why does technology break when you need it most)

well to make a long story short, my damn motherboard bombed last thursday
morning.  so, not only do am i in the midst of a two week sick leave because i
got mono passing the peace pipe at a party, but now i can't surf.  not a real
problem, i just played more guitar.  so monday comes and i install the warranty
replacement motherboard (sometimes it does pay to be a computer tech).  i pull
my email and i see a four day old message about an ig show in philly.  i call
ticket batstard and the tix have been sold out since saturday.  aaaaaaaughhhhhh!

ok. ifeel better.   i really wanted to get four tickets.  a pair for myself, and
a pair for my ex wife and her girlfried (another long story, but everybody is
happyily friends now)becuase its her birthday the week before.  so if anyone
comes accross available tickets please think of helping me make my delightfully
lesbian ex wife happy on her girlfriends birthday (cue "we are the world")

thanks for the rant space

dave neale

dkneale@epix.net

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 08:13:15 -0700
reply-to:     "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
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from:         "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: copyright (nigc) (fwd)
x-to:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>,
              "\"'jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>'\" <jeni saulino"
              <saulinoj@olywa.net>

jeni,

i hope my couples words of advise can help you out with this.  i work at
microsoft in intellectual property licensing.  here is what i suggest,
you have the right idea in writing back jeffrey.  i would explain that
the web page is associated with your school account and that you do not
have access to it.  i would ask him to contact you via us mail on his
letterhead so that you may present the letter to your school to
encourage them to take the web site down asap.  schools can sometimes be
pretty slow at doing that.  by getting the letter via mail, you will
have proof that this fellow is legit, it sounds like he is, but who
knows.

couple words of advise to all of you out there with web sites.  if you
want to use images of musicians, etc. on your page that you have found
up on the web, you may want to send a piece of mail to the person who
owns that particular web page and ask them if it okay to use them on
your page.  more often then not, people are okay with that.  that way
you can stick credit information or whatever on there and avoid getting
threatening email from agents and attorneys.  if you have any specific
questions, i would be more than happy to help you out.

take care!
jessi

>----------
>from:  gwen keyt[smtp:gkeyt@paul.spu.edu]
>sent:  monday, july 15, 1996 10:33 pm
>to:    jessica owen (general)
>subject:       copyright (nigc) (fwd)
>
>do you know the answer to her question?
>
>---------- forwarded message ----------
>date: mon, 15 jul 1996 22:08:56 -0700
>from: jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>
>to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>subject: copyright (nigc)
>
>hi i need your advice. i got this email about my web page (sorry for taking
>up so much bandwidth) ----->
>
>
>date: thu, 11 jul 1996 13:42:11 -0400
>from: jeffrey89@aol.com
>to: saulinoj@elwha.evergreen.edu
>subject: your leibovitz page
>
>i visited your page today. as i represent annie leibovitz, i find the
>unauthorized use of her work to be a violation of all international copyright
>conventions. i urge you to take these images off your site at once or risk
>legal action.
>
>jeffrey d. smith
>
>____________________________________
>this is what i was thinking about saying to him:
>
>i did not mean to infringe on any copyright laws, but there is a problem
>with changing my homepage. i graduated in june and i do not have access to
>the server it resides on. the whole page is supposed to be deleted over the
>summer by the school.
>
>i am really sorry to have upset anyone with my simple page, which, i should
>add was created with images that were already on the www. i did not
>personally scan any images for this page.
>
>jeni saulino
>
>------------------------------------------------
> i was wondering, do you think this guy is legit and i should be worried?
>or that i am approaching this in the right direction. i really feel that
>what i did was not wrong, and i should not have to remove the images.
>
>i guess i need to respond to him pretty soon.
>
>check out my page for yourself and let me know what you think:
>http://192.211.16.13/individuals/saulinoj/annie.html
>
>
>jeni
>
>*love isn't dead, it's only hiding
>and i know, we can find it inside
>if we just let our hearts collide
>                                -df, sr
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reply-to:     andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
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from:         andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>
subject:      the lewiston show
in-reply-to:  your message of "tue, 16 jul 1996 09:51:54 edt."
              <9607161351.aa147521@phoenix.kent.edu>

from everything i've heard, the lewiston show is aug 16th,
possibly at the artpack, and *very* unconfirmed...
lewiston is just north of niagara falls, if you need to know :)

have fun!

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in a message dated 96-07-16 10:00:01 edt, asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu (michael
reynolds) writes:

<<
sarah m. has a b-sides album??????????

am i living under a rock or is this same as fs or some import only made in
eastern estonia? what is on it????

sorry for the nigc, but i figure a) lots of people love sarah on this list,
and b) if i didnt know about it, lots of others would not also
  >>

why yes indeedy.
she's just released "b-sides, rarities, & other stuff" in canada on the
nettwerk label. so far, the only way us non-canadians can get it is through
nettwerk. and i swear i have the phone number..."i have the answer here i
wrote it down somewhere i just gotta find it..."  ;)

it has: "dear god", "i will remember you", "fear" remix, "gloomy sunday",
"full of grace"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahem, "song for a winter's night",
"blue", "drawn to the rhythm" live, "shelter" violin mix, "as the end draws
near" with manufacture, "vox" remix, "into the fire" remix, and "possession"
remix.

as soon as i find it i'll post the 800 number for nettwerk, although i know
that my bestest friend, lisa, who's lurking about here somewhere has it. (she
got it for me!!!!)
;) however, you can get to the nettwerk home page if you have a web browser
through
http://www.nettwerk.com/
and of course you should be able to get to there from my page.
:)
rick
*waitin' for the light to shine*
<a href="http://www.netcom.com/~rbsayre/stuff.html">rick sayre's page for the
undeniably weird!</a>

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reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: getting nh tables....
x-to:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <9607161437.aa26978@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu> from "christopher m.
              becker" at jul 16, 96 10:36:54 am

you can not reservwe them but i figure if people are going to be hanging out
(i believe there is an atm sorta by the venue to meet at perhaps) and  some
of us still haven't figured out how we are getting there...or would not have
had tixs if a very cool person didnt pick up an extra (thanks sue).  i am
still waiting on a refund for a cancelled cure show, i mailed my tickets to
the venue, they claimed they didn't receive them (i wasn't stupid, i sent
them certified mail, so i had proof, then they changed the story around...)
if the show cancelled why not just tell me to rip my tickets up and crtedit
my account two weeks ago... so since my tickets still havent been credited,
and the nearest ticketbastard is now two hours away, if it was not for the
generosity of a list member to cover one ticket, i would miss this show...

anyone from maine going to the show??? or provide a ride back to
portland/lewiston/ bangor???? will split gas and tolls, and if you are near
the bangor/orono area (sharon parker? are you still on campus??? i dont
think we have ever met.) i need a ride and greyhound is lame....

mike r.
(maybe going to newport, maybe not..)

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subject:      please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey y'all!

could someone please, please, please post these shows again?  date, venue, etc.

i need to know, and i have not seen a list....


thanks-

karrie

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subject:      newport singing, rob's t-shirt, and other things

     not much has been said about the idea of the audience singing ig between
sets since those last couple of posts, and since i think it would be a cool
idea, i'm going to bring it up again.  if anyone has a backpacking guitar, we
could have musical accompaniment as well.  i guess ctf is the inevitable
choice, although if anyone can think of anything better that would be very cool.
    anyhow, i am one of the two or three people who will not be
receiving a rob t-shirt, and i would like to express my fear that at all
future concerts list members will be congregating according to shirts.
please remember that some of us are too inept to order things on
time...
     speaking of which, i made this same request about a year ago with
little success, but i figure i will try again.  nis is my favorite
album and i desperately want a shirt from it, but have never been able
to find one.  i am willing to pay asking price for a shirt - worn is
ok, so long as it has no stains (fading and a tiny hole or two is ok).
i am also willing to offer several bootlegs and/or a complete set of
kickass pictures from last year's nff.
   mc

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subject:      re: getting nh tables....

>>mike wrote:
>> igc: hampton beach is going to rock even if the other people slated to play
>> there this summer include winger, and vince neil and the monkee's reunion
>> tour...the place is a cheesy venue (especially since the state theater in
>> portland, me would be the place to see ig)  but it is small (not 1800, 800
>> to maybe 1000 seats max.) and the seats will be the same as what amy putnam
>> posted. but if we get list members to rush to those tables and hold them for
>> other listee's, well, it would be like seeing them in a coffee shop.

>chris wrote:
>mike,
>  i take it the tables are also general admission?  is it possible for
>every ig-listee to call and reserve them?  i'm bringing up 5 from
>boston. if we can reserve, i'd like a table for 2 and a table for 3
>please, and we'll fill in with anyone wearing one of rob's t-shirts!
>                                --- chris

i'm willing to call and reserve a table ... if they won't do the reserving
thing, is anyone going up really early and waiting in line?  i can't leave
somerville until around 4pm (maybe that's early enough?) and would love to
see my first ig concert closer than the 20-somethingth row! :-)  i'd buy the
place-in-line and seat-at-table holder(s) a drink or snack of their choice
once we're inside :-)

should us new englanders connect somehow, either before, during or after the
concert?  i'd prefer before or during, since the next day is "back to work"
(blech), but i'm willing to stay up past my bedtime for some fun! :-)

also, i have room for 2-3 people in my car (air-conditioned!) leaving from
the davis sqare area (on the red line) around 4pm the 12th.  if anyone needs
a ride, let me know.

joan (pretty darned psyched about seeing the girls when i didn't expect to
see them until '97!!)

                      joan_ferguson@harvard.edu
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                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)

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subject:      for utah residents - nigc - ross anderson's press release

i thought those voting in this election might find this interesting.....

kd


---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 10 jul 1996 18:57:28 -0400 (edt)
from: charlene orchard <cdorchard@earthlink.net>
subject: ross anderson's press release

date: wed, 10 jul 1996 14:33:13 -0600 (mdt)
from: debra burrington <ddb2532@u.cc.utah.edu>
to: cdorchard@earthlink.net

dear charlene--

        i just talked with ross and asked if he has disseminated his july
8 press release via the internet.  he said he hasn't had time so i
volunteered to do so.  please broadcast it as widely as you can, and i
suggest that the rest of us on our many lists do the same.  the verbatim
text of the release is as follows:

                                press release

for immediate release:
july 8, 1996

for information:
ross anderson
466-1996

        the following is a statement by ross anderson regarding the
campaign for united states representative for the second congressional
district:

        in this campaign, i have discussed issues that affect every one
of us every day of our lives.  i have focused on such issues as our
transportation needs, federal fiscal policy, environmental protection,
conservation of our open lands, education, preservation of social
security and medicare, and crime control.  i have asked the media for
opportunities for debates on these issues and have requested that merrill
cook address these issues so the voters will have a clear picture of the
great differences between us.

        although i believe voters are immensely concerned about these
issues, merrill cook and some of the media seem obsessed with
sensationalized issues like same-sex marriage--issues that have little,
if any, relevance in a congressional race.

        i am issuing this statement in order that we can proceed with a
campaign on the real issues.  as usual, i will not pull any punches
regarding my position and will strive to end the diversions from the
important federal issues facing the voters of the second congressional
district.

        the issue of same-sex marriage is a very complicated one,
involving the most cherished institution in our culture.  i understand
the emotions and arguments of those who favor the prohibition of
same-sex
marriage.  my personal views have evolved over many years to a belief
that all of us--regardless of our sexual orientation--want the same basic
things in life.  we all want to love and be loved; we all seek close,
loving relationships; we all want dignity and respect in our communities;
and we all want to be treated equally under the law.  i hope that we will
all demonstrate the understanding and compassion for each
other--regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation--that we would
want to be shown toward us.  that is the lesson of the golden rule.

        i hope that, as a community and as a nation, we will all seek
greater understanding and compassion--and judge each other less harshly.
also, i hope that our politicians will finally refrain from the politics
of division and fear.  we need true leadership, with people seeking to
find the common ground we all share and working to resolve, in the
*public* interest, the serious problems facing our communities and our
nation.

        notwithstanding my personal views, if the occasion arises, i will
vote in congress according to the wishes of the people of the second
congressional district on this issue, provided my vote is consistent with
the united states constitution.  i will ascertain the wishes of my
constituents by polling, then i will publicly disclose the results of the
polling and vote accordingly.

        in my view, the issue of same-sex marriage is one to be dealt
with by the states and by the courts.  the so-called defense of marriage
act now pending before congress is, at least in part, clearly violative
of the full faith and credit clause of the united states constitution.
further, it is one of those election-year bills that are proposed
primarily to divide the people of this country and to obtain political
advantage.  that sort of political pandering, at the expense of a
vulnerable group of citizens, should not be tolerated, let alone advocated.


end of press release (my notation)

thanks
xo
deb

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subject:      re: copyright

a- hey jessi- thanks for your info! i'm putting up a website for a local
roanoke band and we have been using lots of different images from lots of
different people and have found that contacting them- either through email
or by phone- has been the way to go to make sure that we can use the images,
and after we get their permission we credit them.. so far its been great b/c
the artist gets exposure and we get to use the art work.. i have even
contacted off our backs about using an image that they had in an old article
and they were more than willing to help me get the particular artists
permission..

here's another question- is there anyway to actually copyright the actual
website?  b/c of all the work done by me and the artists involved we,
espically i, want to get this thing copyrighted.. anyone know?

thanks!
take care,
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subject:      not even remotely igc!

so delete this right now if you are one of those people who are concerned
about the waste of bandwidth.  (no offense at all intended.)

ok, here's what this is about: my dad has written a book.  it's a
biography of the woman who played zuzu in that christmas movie "it's a
wonderful life."  my dad is a good writer, but no publisher has been smart
enough to see that at this point, so they're going to try self-publish it.
he's received 45 orders so far, needs 400.  this book would make a nice
christmas present, especially since it's the 50th anniversary of the
movie.  i'm sure many of you know somebody who loves the movie, and this
is a new angle, even if you already know a lot about it.  i've read the
first few chapters, and the style is really flowing and easy to read.
sorry for the nigc, but i'm just trying to help my dad out here, and y'all
are a smart, cool group of people with many interests other than the
girls, so i though it was worth a shot.  feel free to email me if you have
any questions.
love,
karey
p.s. obviously you don't hafta order by yesterday.


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check the following website: www.lehigh.net/wonderful/book.htm
***

                                new biography of
                              former child actress
                                 karolyn grimes
                             makes the perfect gift
                                for fans of the
                              classic holiday film
                            "it's a wonderful life"

                             pre-publication orders
                                must by made by
                             monday, july 15, 1996
                ***********not true, not true, not true!!*****************

   you can reserve your personalized copy of a fascinating new book -- the
biography of karolyn grimes, who as a 6-year-old played zuzu bailey in "it's a
wonderful life."

   assembled with the full cooperation of karolyn and filled with dozens of
photos from karolyn's films and home life, the softcover book of 300-plus pages
will be called "every time a bell rings: the wonderful life of karolyn grimes."
the book pays tribute to the endearing role that ensured that jimmy stewart
forever would be known by tens of millions as a loving father.

   the author is seattle writer clay eals, a 15-year newspaper veteran who in
recent years has taught journalism and prepared school curriculum and currently
is publications editor for the hutchinson center. eals, who met karolyn during
her zuzu appearance at the hutchinson center's holiday gala in december 1994,
has worked on the biography over the past year and a half.

   "every time a bell rings" is available at a special, pre-publication price of
$19.46 ("it's a wonderful life" was released in 1946), plus $5 postage/handling.
checks for this limited-edition printing must be received at the address of her
fan club -- the zuzu society, p.o. box 225, stilwell, ks 66085 --  by monday,
july 15. checks will be deposited when the book is printed and mailed to
purchasers in the early fall.

   this meticulously researched and anecdote-filled book details the life of
karolyn, the most active and appealing present-day ambassador for "it's a
wonderful life." the remarkable 55-year-old has criss-crossed the continent and
enthralled tens of thousands with her down-to-earth magnetism and dynamic charm.

   "every time a bell rings" begins with karolyn's childhood career in
hollywood, which encompassed 16 feature films and several tv dramas and
commercials. she played key youthful roles in some of the best movies of the
1940s and early 1950s (including "the bishop's wife," whose remake, "the
preacher's wife," is in production). besides jimmy stewart and donna reed in
"it's a wonderful life," karolyn acted opposite a constellation of stars,
including cary grant, loretta young, bing crosby, john wayne, rosalind russell,
danny kaye, angela lansbury, randolph scott, fred macmurray, david niven, judy
canova, franchot tone and glenn ford.

   equally compelling is the story of karolyn's later life. orphaned and taken
to live in rural missouri at 15, she has survived the suicide of her son
and the cancer death of her second husband. the themes of "it's a
wonderful life" lace her approach to these challenges.

   the book features a section revealing the original, expanded role of zuzu
(one early script for "it's a wonderful life" starts with the 6-year-old
wandering lost through heaven) and a chapter of fans' comments and excerpts from
karolyn's fan mail.

   most books that mention or dwell on "it's a wonderful life" bypass the key
roles of the kids portrayed, including zuzu, who speaks the movie's most
memorable line ("every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings"). now, you
and others who watch the film every year can be captivated by the life of the
girl who perennially tugs the nation's heartstrings. it also makes a perfect
christmas/birthday gift for family and friends who love "it's a wonderful life."

   please order by monday, july 15, at the pre-publication price of $19.46 (plus
$5 postage), by sending a check to the zuzu society, p.o. box 225, stilwell, ks
66085. be sure to specify how you would like karolyn to autograph your copy!

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subject:      ig on women for women 2

"mercury records will release 'women for women 2' sept. 17. the album
featuring songs from such female artists as tina turner, celine dion, sheryl
crow, amy grant, indigo girls, joan osborne, & vanessa williams, benefits the
national alliance of breast cancer organizations, a nonprofit information
resource center on breast cancer."

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subject:      re: philly show/ticket frustration
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hey!

on tue, 16 jul 1996, dkneale@epix.net wrote:
>i call ticket batstard and the tix have been sold out since saturday.
>aaaaaaaughhhhhh!

i, too, was sad to hear about the sell out........i was even sadder when i
called 2 ticket agents to see if they had any available....

the 1st place quoted $75 per ticket.....the 2nd $40 per ticket, 2 ticket minimum
+ $11 for shipping.....

*i* say we lobby russell carter to start a lottery system or some other
fan-friendly-ticket-obtaining means....

:) (yes, still smiling despite wishing all ticket agents a lifetime of milli
vanilli elevator musak piped through a very small barred window in a very
small white cubicle)
eric

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subject:      shows in georgia????

hi all!!!

ok, i am going to be in gainesville, georgia (it's near atlanta) on august
5-7.... is bfe or ig (or anyone elase at this point...rem, maybe) playing
any of those dates??????  where?????  how to get tix?????

thanks much!!!
ttfn
elaine

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subject:      florida

hello guys! anybody know if ig will be in florida soon? i'm a new fan and
i've never seen them live and would love to have the chance. if anyone has
any info please send it to me. thanks a bunch!!!

jendy

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subject:      nigc-anyone from ann arbor?

hey all.  anyone out there from ann arbor?  i'm moving there for school
in august and would like to chat!  please respond, anyone?

chris ii, who is wishing she had more friends in faraway places.
<chris.talbot@m.cc.utah.edu>

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universe could be so kind
as to be godless."
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
organization: charles river associates
subject:      re: enhanced cd?
in-reply-to:  <01f96b37011c0e00>

first was written:

> sarah m. has a b-sides album??????????

then was replied:

>why yes indeedy.
>she's just released "b-sides, rarities, & other stuff" in canada on the
>nettwerk label. so far, the only way us non-canadians can get it is
through
>nettwerk.

actually, it is not that hard to find it in us stores.  i bought my copy
at newbury comincs in boston for only $13.  tower records has it for $15
and hmv for $19, all here in boston.

i know many sarah fanatics are disappointed because they have all of
these tracks already on their various singles  (it is a b sides comp
after all),  but if you don't already have "dear god", "i will remember
you", and "full of grace"! (<-- as rick put it) then it's worth the
price, becasue these are all wonderful.  "drawn to the rhythm" (live)
from her limited edition live album and her cover of "blue" are also
great.  most of the rest is remixes, which doesn't excite me personally.

unfortunately they didn't put on her rendition of "oh canada" from a
hockey game two years ago, which was really great!

i don't have a cd-rom so i can't tell you anything about the multimedia
tracks.

nettwerk's phone number is 1-800-764-3472.
form nettwerk, the price is something like $14  plus shipping (which i
think is $5)

hope that helps.

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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subject:      ig tickets!!!

hi all,

i got my tickets today!!!!!!! i'm going to the show at the boathouse!!  thanks for posting the info folks!!!  i'm so excited.....folk festival one weekend and the girls the next weekend.. does it get any better than that??

well, i know where the boat house is so if any one needs directions, e-mail me and i will give them to you.  staci_j_1@wow.com

peace,

staci

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subject:      re: getting nh tables....

hi new englanders -

i think i live the closest to hampton beach than anyone on the list (just 3
towns north) -- a dubious distinction at best as the venue is definitely
*cheesy* as previously described.  ig are being sandwiched into a lineup that
includes the reunions of cheap trick, styx, and the monkees, plus guys like
billy ray cyruss.  to be fair, cowboy junkies just played there the other
night, and john hiatt will be there a few days before the girls, so it's not
a totally losing place.

i am in the arts pr business and i just got the number for the casino's
publicist.  i will call her tomorrow and find out the real deal on the
tables.  i've been told that the entire venue is tables and chairs and all
are general admission, so getting in line before the doors open at 6 would
seem to be the best strategy, but i'll get the scoop from cindy and post it
asap.  i'll also ask about an opening act.

still reeling from the excitement of buying my tickets,

heidi in greenland, nh (if you've taken i-95 to maine, you've seen our only
claim to fame -- the exit 3 truck stop)

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subject:      re: florida
x-to:         edwina@jax-inter.net

in a message dated 96-07-16 18:06:43 edt, edwina@jax-inter.net (jendy)
writes:

<< hello guys! anybody know if ig will be in florida soon? i'm a new fan and
i've never seen them live and would love to have the chance. if anyone has
any info please send it to me. thanks a bunch!!!

jendy
  >>


yaaay!!!!!!  a fellow floridian.

:)
rick
feeling random today

*feeling you with me everywhere ....*
now playing: concrete blonde: walking in london

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date:         tue, 16 jul 1996 16:08:03 -0700
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subject:      newport

hi everyone,

can anyone fill me in on newport? i just found out that i actually have a
way of going!!! i know the info on this has probably been posted a hundred
times, but since i didn't think i was able to go, i didn't torture myself
with it. sorry ... but it's never too late to ask, right?

oh, in case i didn't mention it, i resubscribed to the list. my life is
still in shambles, but i missed you all so much. i needed my daily fix of
list mail to brighten my day!

hugs,
deb


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subject:      wanted: ig shirts

hey all,

does anybody have any ig shirts that they would consider selling?  i'm
especially looking for the older ones, "strange fire", self titled, etc.  any
tours shirts included.  if not, could anybody tell me how to get them?  any
help would be appreciated!!  thanks!!

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subject:      nigc-vicky imparato

sorry to take everyone's time with this:
        vicky, i tried to send you that tape but it was returned to me
for an incorrect address. what is it again? let me know, thanks...kel
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subject:      birthdays!(17jul96)

hey!!! happy birthday to:
sl6tc@ cc.usu.esu  (cami)
        "the best thing you've ever done for me is to help me take my
life less seriously, it's only life afterall,.....yeah"   ctf!

have a groovi day!  kel
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subject:      bringing guitar to nff let's sing!!!

i'm bringing my backpacker guitar (unless i find out that there will
be more space in my car, then i'll bring my ovation)...i have
extensive knowledge of indigo girls songs so if you want a guitar
player for the sing along...you got one!

gwen

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subject:      attn:marilyn macvey (nigc)

sorry again for posting like this, but....marilyn, could you please email
me back if you're out there?  i have a question about the boot i'm making
for you, and your email got eaten up by my school account.  thanks,

cylinda

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subject:      gwen's web page--vligc

sorry to waste everyone's bandwidth, but if y'all are bored, check out my
homepage!  i just got my part of it up and running.  i don't have any ig
pics on it yet, but i do have a link to tezcat.  anyway, it's...
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/notime1/gwnstuff.htm

i'm not totally delighted with it yet (parts are a little sappy, parts are
not quite polished enough) but it's getting there.  please lemme know what
y'all think (now that i am totally comfortable using that contraction).
thanks!

*************************************************************************
"when you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  live your life in
such a way that, when you die, the world cries and you rejoice."--chief
seattle

******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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subject:      kristen hall (nigc)

greetings all in the land of indigo!

i was wondering, does anyone know what label kristen hall is on now
i emailed windham hill asking for info about her fall touring schedule
and other info and they said she was no longer on thier label.  does
anyone know if there is a new mailing address or email address wehre
i can write to?

when i was at the caroline aiken show, there was  flyer up for kristen's
show on oct. 5th at the somerville theatre and i was wondering if
anyone knew if she would be coming to the northampton area as well.  if
anyone knows, please let me know.  thanks a lot.  take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      austin show prices

according to star tickets, the ticket prices for the indigo girls' austin
show are $27.00 (seats) and $24.00 (lawn).  the show is general admission.
the tickets go on sale at 10:00 a.m. saturday (7/20).  call 1-800/966-show
(7469).

happy dialing,
michelle

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subject:      list t-shirt update

hi all...i just want to let you know that i am sitting here holding a hot
off the press 1996 ig list t-shirt!!! a sample was printed so i could
approve the colors and the position of the images and all that other
designee kind of stuff i've made a career about being concerned about, and
i must say it looks pretty darn good!

anyway, the rest of the shirts will be printed today and rob should have
them in his hands in a few days. i think it's safe to say you can expect to
have your shirts by the end of next week. if anything changes, i'm sure rob
will update us.

in addition, i'd like to take this opportunity to thank rob for his efforts
in handling the organizing, money collecting, and shipping end of this
little project. i think he did a fine job and deserves a nice round of
applause (all together now...clap, clap, clap, whistle, whistle, clap,
clap,clap). i think the best part was getting the images on a web site -- i
think that really helped to sell the concept. overall, it's incredible what
can be accomplished via the internet and 800 numbers!

i'd also like to thank all of you who sent in quote ideas that helped
inspire the design especially amy snyder who got me thinking by suggesting
the use of one of amy's streams. that really helped tie things together.

anyway, it was a fun project. thanks for all the positive feedback and i
hope you all enjoy your shirts.

deb

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subject:      1994:  swamp thing

september 19, 1994 -- hits

swamp thing
time to sit around the campfire with indigo girls' amy ray
by rex rutkowski

[rr] epic is calling "swamp ophelia" the most musically and lyrically
ambitious record of the indigo girls' career.

[ar] i would agree with it for me, for sure.  hopefully, the last you do is
your most ambitious thing.  i felt more challenged by this project and
specifically tried to challenge myself to do new things and to try to work
with types of harmonies i hadn't done before.  we didn't really have a goal
with this album except to present the songs in their best light.

[rr] though the indigo girls have taken a low profile on the issue of top 40
hits, this album appears to be your commercial breakthrough.

[ar] i don't mind radio play, obviously.  we don't gear ourselves towards
that and never make that our goal, though.  we feel it would taint what we
are doing and upset the way we record.  but if something turns out to be
radio-friendly, that's fine.  we try to direct how we are presented; past
that, it is kind of up to the record company.

[rr] do you sense that radio is more accepting of your kind of music right now?

[ar] it's hard for me to say that.  i feel radio - not necessarily the
individuals in it - is extremely close-minded because it is a business.

[rr] you've said you're concerned with the image of the indigo girls the
label projects.  what do you want that image to be?

[ar] the label at times gets real gung-ho and says, "let's get that hit!,"
rather than pay attention to college radio.  i'm very particular about
trying to make sure we prioritize the college and alternative markets, where
our support has been in the past.  when we try to go top 40, it never works
out.  we would like to be perceived as musicians before anything else.
that's probably everybody's hope.

[rr] who do you see as your audience?

[ar] it is diverse and getting more so.  i see it as being sort of
cross-generational - college, high school, parents.  it's very, very nice to
have that.  sometimes, it's hard, though.  you're gonna please some people
and not please others, but you know you'll always make somebody happy.

[rr] what do you see as the strengths of the indigo girls?

[ar] our diversity.  we are very different from each other musically and
personality-wise... i like the path we are on.  i enjoy continuously trying
to learn as much as i can about music.

[rr] what point do you think you've reached in your career?

[ar] i don't even think about things in those terms.  i'm happy where we
are, both crowd-wise and musically.  i think we have accomplished a great
deal.  i'm not really interested in working in other mediums.  i love film
from a director's perspective, but i'm not as interested in getting involved
in that area as emily is.  music is the medium where i express myself the best.

[rr] what does a woman bring to music that a man can't?

[ar] i don't think you necessarily can say a woman can bring something to
music that a man can't, or vice versa.  i don't believe in stereotypes.  i
believe a woman is part man and a man is part woman.  i think we all have
feminine and masculine traits.  i just don't see that as an issue.

[rr] where does your source of creativity come from?

[ar] i think you are endowed with gifts and it is your responsibility to
actualize them, but i don't know where you're
endowed from.

[rr] what do you ultimately want people to take from the music of the indigo
girls?

[ar] i want people to enjoy it.  the musicality of things is real important
to me... the journey into different types of melodies and harmonies and
dynamics.  i want people to gather a sense of self-esteem from the material.
we try to emphasize just believing in yourself.

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subject:      re: list t-shirt update
x-to:         debbie@mei.com

i must say this publicly:  rob and deb, y'all are
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks so much for everything y'all did with the shirts.  i can't wait to get
mine.  i am going to wear it everywhere!!
sarah

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from:         herbert huels <73771.760@compuserve.com>
subject:      emily's b-day

hey everyone!
i've been off the list for a while, so i don't know if this has been discussed,
but what are we doing for e's b-day??
are we going to have an all emily day??
any suggestions???
have a nice day!!    :)
peace,
-moe (simone)

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from:         rahadyan timoteo andreas sastrowardoyo <tisast@nytimes.com>
subject:      leaving the list

i'm taking a break from the list for a while. hope to see y'all back in
cyberspace in a month or two...

peace, love and indigo,
rahadyan

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subject:      deb & rob rule!!!
in-reply-to:  your message of "wed, 17 jul 1996 11:26:30 mdt."
              <v01540b06ae12c6cdbaf1@[151.186.5.88]>

i just want to give deb and rob a big, slobbery thank you in front
of the whole list :)))  for putting all that work into the shirts !!

i can't wait till that big puffy package arrives in the mail :p


:o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)  :o)

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subject:      help

so i just had my 43rd bday and wanted to treat myself to another
tatoo..pretty fond of amys' but don't want to be a copycat..anyone out
there interested in eastern religions or tao??looking for a symbol for
endurance or serenity or preseverance???any artists who can give me some
ideas?

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subject:      (nigc) new ellis release

hi folks,

  i just picked up the new ellis paul album (carnival of voices).  its
pretty good, i'd give it a 7 out of 10.  its somewhat overproduced.
"paris in a day" doesn't come close to its full majesty when heard
live, but is just too good of a song to destroy.  standouts on the
album are "all my heroes were junkies," "never lived at all," and a
hidden track "ghosts" ellis' storytelling is as spellbinding forever.
one disappointment was that he didn't include any of his pure poetry
on the album (tornado girl! would have been awesome here).


  to be fair, i've only listened to the album all the way through
twice and my scoring will probably be revised upward with sucessive
listens.  it always seems that way with intellegent music....

                                -- chris


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from:         dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
subject:      austin ig show

greetings and salutations, y'all,

just talked to waterloo records about the tickets for the ig show out at =
the backyard. here is the scoop:

tickets go on sale this saturday july 20th at 10 am through all star =
ticket outlets.  if you are out of town and want to call for tickets, =
the number is 1-800-966-show that's 1-800-966-7469 (show).

prices are going to be $27 for the seated area, $24 for the lawn are.

all tickets are general admission.=20

the seated area is an are up close to the stage, on concrete, and there =
will be folding type chairs to sit in. but there will not be any =
reserved seats. you will need to have the seated tickets to get into =
this area.

the lawn is everything behind and to the sides of the concrete seated =
area. this area has some grassy parts, and some stone patio parts.=20

personally, i plan on going the extra $3 bucks so i can get as close to =
the stage as possible.

last time i saw ig at the backyard they had kinda the same arrangement, =
and i got into the seated area, only from the time ig hit the stage no =
one sat down, we was all too darn busy dancing our collective asses off!

i would really like to get together with some of you fine folks, perhaps =
after the show at kerby lane on south lamar in austin. anyone =
interested??

also, i still would like to hook up with some folks during the show, so =
i have some one to sit with, darn my non-ig friends..

ohhh, a little nigc.. i went out and bought ani difranco's not a pretty =
girl cd this last weekend.... great cd!!

peace and love,

dan perkins

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subject:      re: (nigc) new ellis release

christopher m. becker wrote:
>
> hi folks,
>
>   i just picked up the new ellis paul album (carnival of voices).  its
> pretty good, i'd give it a 7 out of 10.  its somewhat overproduced.
> "paris in a day" doesn't come close to its full majesty when heard
> live, but is just too good of a song to destroy.  standouts on the
> album are "all my heroes were junkies," "never lived at all," and a
> hidden track "ghosts" ellis' storytelling is as spellbinding forever.
> one disappointment was that he didn't include any of his pure poetry
> on the album (tornado girl! would have been awesome here).
>
>   to be fair, i've only listened to the album all the way through
> twice and my scoring will probably be revised upward with sucessive
> listens.  it always seems that way with intellegent music....
>
>                                 -- chris
>
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>         with the line: signoff indigo-girlswhat a coincidence - i'm sitting here at work listening to ellis' earlier albums, and
thinking i need to get the new one.

- i've been cut by the rose again
- all the petals are falling to pieces...

- elizabeth :)

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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      newport singing

um, this is really stupid, but i always thought it'd be kinda cool if the
audience sang "hosanna" to the girls on stage. not that you'd even be able to
get people to do it, but it _would_ be cool.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

driving...


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lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
lehigh university                                - dar williams
bethlehem, pa

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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subject:      another cover

just for fun i would like to hear ar sing "you can leave your hat on"
written by randy newman but sung the way joe cocker belts it out.
yeah, that would be something!!!

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subject:      ig t-shirts

dear rob & deb:

you are the greatest!

thanks for your efforts & creativity.  as i sit here listening to my
nojf cd's (thanks carolyn!) and look forward to getting the t-shirt i
realise how nice it is to be part of the ig global village.

melissa

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subject:      re: songs before they were songs
in-reply-to:  <pine.sgi.3.94.960711181906.5379a-100000@indy1.calarts.edu>

hola mis amigos and amigas!

once again, i have a new revised list of what's going on the "pre-album
songs" tape.  it'll be so cool.  i can't wait till you all have one.  i
got a bunch of new old songs, but still not much from swamp ophelia.  i
know it can't be possible that amy and emily didn't try out their so songs
on audiences when they were new.  somebody let me know if you have any so
song(especially by emily).  ok, here we go:

secure yourself ( thanks carrie  this is from 88)
prince of darkness (from 88 with a guitar solo!  a la carrie)
pushing the needle too far (from chapel hill 87)
nashville ( from a long time ago)
welcome me (from uptown girls-because the guitar solo rocks, and is
              different than on the album)
love will come to you (thanks carrie-with added verse)
love will come to you (solo emily-yes it's going on twice.  you'll see
                         why)
joking
virginia woolf (with lots of different words)
cedar tree (thanks carrie)
fare thee well (thanks you know who again)
jonas and ezekial (thanks deb!)
ghost (thanks both to carrie and deb)
fugitive ( greg again)
reunion (and once again...greg)
chiapas bound
problem child
cut it out
caramia (formerly known as- pray my way through or around it)
going to the country
don't give that girl a gun
get out the map
shame on you

we'll see how this turns out.  as you can tell, it's mostly very new stuff
and rites of passage stuff.  all you boot collectors, get your thinking
caps out, and see if you have anything from so or nomads.  speaking of
which, does anyone know if nomads, indians, saints was recorded in 90, or
91?  because i might be able to get some pre nis stuff if it was recorded
in 91 -not released, but recorded.  an exact date would be helpful.  any
help is appreciated! thanks
everybody!

love, wendell

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date:         wed, 17 jul 1996 16:06:20 -0700
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carolyn,

just wanted to say thank you! thank you! thank you! i loved the interview.
thanks for putting out the effort to type it.

hugs,
deb

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subject:      (nigc) looking for info: roadside memorials

speaking of "twisted guardrails on the highway"
(heh, heh...hows that for igc?)
...i have been beating my feeble brains out trying to
find info on roadside memorials (you know those little white
crosses that people put up on the roadsides at the sites of
fatal auto accidents ?)
so far no luck...(gopher sucks as far as i'm concerned, by the way)

you see i am making a little documentary video on the subject
for a class, and i know little about them and really, really need some
background information.
knowing how bright and wonderful all of you listers are i am hoping
that some of you may be able to enlighten me on the subect....
some things i want to know are...why...what does it mean to the survivors ?
history of them...are they an american tradition ? anything ?

please email me privately if you can help.

thanks bunches and bunches !!!!

claire

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herbert huels,73771.760@compuserve.com writes:
hey everyone!
i've been off the list for a while, so i don't know if this has been
discussed,
but what are we doing for e's b-day??
are we going to have an all emily day??

i definitely think we should declare july 22 all emily day, much in the same
way april 12 was amy day, which was really cool. listers can share personal
encounter stories, or discuss how her songs have affected them, or even
(imagining that she would read them) write birthday greetings. maybe we could
even compile them and find a way to send them to her. :)

what does everyone think?

anna

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herbert huels,73771.760@compuserve.com (moe) writes:
hey everyone!
i've been off the list for a while, so i don't know if this has been
discussed,
but what are we doing for e's b-day??
are we going to have an all emily day??

i definitely think we should declare july 22 all emily day, much in the same
way april 12 was amy day, which was really cool. listers can share personal
encounter stories, or discuss how her songs have affected them, or even
(imagining that she would read them) write birthday greetings. maybe we could
even compile them and find a way to send them to her. :)

what does everyone think?

anna

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actually, that would be pretty cool. i was raised roman catholic and we
went to a fairly progressive church. they had *the* coolest arrangement
for that song which totally trips out your vocal chords and it's quite
up-beat (it reminds me of an arrangement you'd expect to hear in jcs). i
love to sing and that was my *favorite* song to sing each sunday :) (and i
am not at all a religious person, it just sounds really cool and ever
since reading your post i have been singing that song around my
apartment!)

hailing lorindigo's car,
kristina

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on wed, 17 jul 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

> um, this is really stupid, but i always thought it'd be kinda cool if the
> audience sang "hosanna" to the girls on stage. not that you'd even be able to
> get people to do it, but it _would_ be cool.
> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo

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i agree!  emily day is a must.

what we do for one...we've gotta do for the other!

:)

happy thursday...
jan

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subject:      re: emily's b-day

well, i don't know about you all, but i'm having a huge party with cake and
ice cream and guests and everything. ok, ok, it's also my daughter sarah's
15th birthday, but in my mind it'll all be for emily, too.

                   happy birthday sarah & emily!

hugs,
deb

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>date:  wed, 17 jul 1996 23:37:57 -0400
>reply-to: janinsdale@aol.com
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>i agree!  emily day is a must.
>
>what we do for one...we've gotta do for the other!
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>happy thursday...
>jan
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sorry to all you amy people. i mean no disrespect. i love amy, too. but to
me every day is an emily day!!!!!

hugs,
deb

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subject:      nigc: riverpoets in la 7/20 & 7/21

hi folks,

if you live in the la area, you might want to catch riverpoets at one
of two places this week-end:

saturday july 20: girl bar 657 n. robertson blvd, w. hollywood 10pm

sunday july 21: club 369 1641 n. placentia ave fullerton. 714-572-1816
                                                                                                                        9pm $5.

this band is hot. check them out.

monique

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on wed, 17 jul 1996, wendell lee wrote:

> got a bunch of new old songs, but still not much from swamp ophelia.  i
> know it can't be possible that amy and emily didn't try out their so songs
> on audiences when they were new.  somebody let me know if you have any so
> song(especially by emily).  ok, here we go:

hmmm.. didn't a i read somewhere (probibally here) that so was made up of
songs that most had never been tried on an audience before. i may be
wrong .... then again i could just be right !!!

later
jules

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february 18, 1994 -- unknown

interviewer: okay. tell me about the significance behind the title of the
album and what it means to you.

amy ray: it's going to be a long year. [laughs]

interviewer: okay. the title of the album.

emily saliers: it is swampophilia, which is a plant, it's an actual plant.
although we've been looking it up and we have not found it anywhere.

amy ray: it might be a dream.

emily saliers: it might be a dream or just like a colloquialism or something
like that.

amy ray: yeah, it was in florida.

emily saliers: it's in one of amy songs, "touch me fall."  you can take it
from there.

amy ray: it's just some nature preserve i was walking through and saw this
plant, and it was really - it made me think of hamlet and ophelia and the
swamp. but it all kind of mixes in together.

amy ray: yeah, we just thought it sounded cool.

interviewer: speaking of that, there's literature and music.  i was reading
about you; somebody said the songs were broken down in sort of significance
about what the songs meant to you.  there was a thing i had gotten from
epic.  can you sort of give us a view/feel of the songs that we're going to
hear today, a little bit about them and what inspired you to write them, and
how do you feel they are significant to what the indigo girls are about, or
what your audience is going to get from them?

emily saliers: okay. i guess we'll start with my songs."least complicated"
is pretty much typical of, i guess, when you reach 30, which what i am now,
and you start to look back at all the patterns of your life.  and it's sort
of about recurring patterns.  that's redundant, isn't it.

amy ray: no. patterns don't get set.  they can change.

emily saliers: yeah, they can. and it's about that's very simple, that you
could have learned a long time ago, from even as young as your elementary
school days, and yet you continue to do the same thing throughout your life.
so- it's about love.  it's about interpersonal relationships and learning.
and making the same mistakes.  and-- i mean, i don't know how that relates
to indigo girls, per se.  amy and i just write songs about the things that
we're thinking about and then we learn them together and so they become part
of us, but there's not like this overall thing that we
are, that each song becomes a part of-- it fits into the scheme of it. the
other song, "the power of two," is just- it's a love song.  it's really --
it's about hope in the face of the--- things that you have to face. what
people go through to try and make a relationship work.  you know, about fear
of commitment and yet it all their childhood fears about love too, the
monster beneath your bed and things like that, and the ghosts in your head
and it's all about overcoming those things and it's just a very sweet,
hopeful love song.  it's pretty simple.

interviewer: and what else are we doing today, "the power of two?"

emily saliers: "touch me fall"

interviewer: "touch me fall" [laughter]  sorry.

amy ray: so i have my tounge on my cheek.  "fugitive" is - it's kind of a
love song, but it's also, you know, it's very abstract.  it's me, the
struggle within myself and the struggle with someone else to create
commitment in a world of this -- of the music industry, which is really kind
of screwy.  and the ideas of invading privacy and-- it's about freedom,
really, and about the ability to be free.  you can be free no matter what,
you know.  and "touch me fall" is about the same thing [laughs]- "touch me
fall" is about the industry.  no, "touch me fall" is sort of a journey from
- it deals with ego and true - true love, and, you know, and purity, and
then it switches over to - into a mode of kind of the - it's fatalistic. it
goes from this real pure type thing into a - a sort of a chaotic existence.
they're very abstract songs.  i don't know what i'm writing about half the
time when i'm writing, so i can't really - i can't, like, pin it
down like emily can.

emily saliers: because mine are simple.

amy ray: no, that's not it. mine are just -- i just let it out while i'm
writing, so i don't know what it's about.

interviewer: the music can tell us on that song if you think it really changes.

amy ray: yeah, we recorded "touch me fall" -- i had a wreck, actually, the
day we recorded it, and i went into the studio, we recorded it.  we did it
live, [sarah lee] and jerry marotta, and that was an improv thing- we kind
of worked on a skeleton of it, but it kind of happened the way it happened,
and we just kept it. so it's very -- it is what it is.  full of mistakes and
time changes and everything.

interviewer: you're working with the same producer you worked with on your
last album. how has that relationship developed and tell us a little bit
about his input on the album. and also, other artists that may have come in
to play on this album, the guest artists, you know, what they brought to it.
can you like sort of get into that? the production and the team of people
you worked with.

emily saliers: well, we chose peter collins again.  he did rites of passage
with us, and there are a lot of things to be said about peter, about our
relationship and how well we work together, because peter's the kind of guy
who is very open to ideas.  and it's very important to amy and me that we
just don't have, like, a slickly produced record.  we want to have creative
freedom and, ultimately, total creative control.  peter's the kind of
producer who doesn't have a huge ego and in the end even if he likes
something a lot, if amy and i don't like it and it's our song, he'll say
okay, you don't have to have it.  so he's very reasonable and on this album
we had a lot of quirky things happen. we sort of picked musicians and used
them to play instruments that were not their forte a lot of times, and what
-- they came up with these neat musical ideas that you're not going to get
when you pull in a studio musician and have him or her play the instrument
that he or she is known for. so that was cool. and peter - at first, we
bothered him a little on that.

amy ray: yeah.

emily saliers: but then he warmed up to it and became very accepting of
those things. and to me, that's a lot of the charm of this record, is the
quirkiness of the players and the instruments they played.  so, peter is
just - he's very open. we work well, because we have strong personalities,
and amy and i work differently musically a lot of the time.  he brings us
together in a very appropriate way, i think.

interviewer: speaking of that, what you said about recording and what you
bring to it, like the quirkiness or different things that came into play.
when you write a song, how do -- do you see where it's going to go or do you
sort of just let it breathe and go?  how do you come to the final conclusion
that that song is there, that it's done, it's right, it's on on the album?

amy ray: well -- in the history of our writing songs, we spent-- we normally
had spent a long time playing them and they would develop themselves
onstage, very spontaneously. so a lead break might be two measures and it
might turn into eight measures by the end of the tour.  so we would record
it that way. and with this album, you know, obviously, we don't have time to
do that, so there's only a few songs that we had really worked on and jammed
on, i guess. so, it just depends on the song.  some songs, you know, we
might have written and been
thinking about what instruments we might want or, you know, what kind of
harmonies and those kind of things. and then, there's other songs that we
wrote so recently that when we got into the studio, the song developed
itself, you know, just out of the air, kind of. "touch me fall" did that.  i
hadn't even finished that one, really.

emily saliers: "mystery"

amy ray: "mystery." one of emily's.  "mystery, " we really wrote my part
while we were rehearsing during preproduction, which is really unusual.

emily saliers: yup.

amy ray: we hate doing that. but it worked out for the best.  it's
challenging and it -- it fit into the scope of all the rest of the songs
because of the time that we did it in.

interviewer: your last album was up to about 800,000 units that are out.

emily saliers: [laughs]

amy ray: it hasn't recouped yet. it hasn't recouped yet.  [laughs]

interviewer: how do you -- is it hard to like come back with another album
two years, like, to your audience and what are they going to get from this
or-- you know what i mean? like, if you just had a really great record, so
how do they -- how does this compare to the last album- and where you've
gone from there, and what can the audience get from this.  i mean--

[someone knocks on door]

interviewer: you can let somebody in.

interviewer: that's right. 'cause heidi should be in here too.  i'm sorry.
sorry heidi.

amy ray:  when we do a record, we don't think  about what the last record
sold or what our audience expects.  i mean, that's just not what we think
about. and if -- so really, it's more of a challenge of let's make sure that
this record is different from the last one musically, maybe.  make sure we
don't repeat the same pattern.  because when you work with the same
producer, you have a habit of falling back on things that work for you.  and
so, you have to challenge yourself and not stagnate, and you challenge
yourself by learning different instruments or creating something -- a
different arrangement idea, you know.  and if you find yourself falling back
on the same patterns, just kind of go -- you know, we've tried, we used that
before, we know that can work.  why don't we explore a different area? and
ultimately do what's best for the song, but explore as many different areas
as possible.  we never think about the sales from the last record or whether
we'll ever have a "closer to fine" again and those kind of things.

emily saliers: oh, big deal, "closer to fine." [laughter]

interviewer: are there risks that you took on this album--things like you
were talking about instruments that you brought into play, things that are
very different than you've normally done in the past, something that was
really exciting or different?

emily saliers: i don't consider anything that involves musical creativity a
risk. i mean, i just figure it's all part of the process of discovery and, i
mean, when you think of the word "risk" it's in the context of how will this
be accepted by the public and those kinds of thoughts. and like amy said, we
really don't think about those things.  i mean, i've got to admit, as our
career progresses, i do think about how our fans, if they're going to like
the music or not.  just plain and simple, if they're going to like it.  i
think about that.  but if we're going to pick a player and have them play a
different instrument and it comes out something quirky, basically, amy and i
just decide whether we like it or not. and then, if we like it, we go with
it and we don't go,  oh my goodness, i hope the public accepts this -- or
this is risky or anything like that.

interviewer: i'm totally understanding all that, but i'm just saying

amy ray: she's trying to get us to say a certain thing.

interviewer: i mean, like, music is universal. i mean, yes, you can speak
the language, but you don't want to, you know, masturbate with your own
music.  you do want to get it out to the public.

amy ray: yes, you do want to masturbate with your own music.  why not?
patti smith did it.  [laughs]

woman: okay. let's go on to another thing.

amy ray: no, we can talk about that if you want to.

interviewer: no, that's fine--

amy ray: we don't see things in terms of risk, working with two people,
peter collins and david leonard, who are very safe.  and all the musicians
that we work with are wacky. and we don't see things in terms of risk.
someone from the outside might say, boy, amy, you know, that song is a risk.
but i'm going to go, wow, you know, it really isn't a risk, because what is
a risk. like emily said.

emily saliers: right.

amy ray: so we really -- we try not to have that as part of our language at
all. because that's very -- when you start talking about risk, that means
you're talking about your ego, and that's a problem i have, so i try not to
do that.

emily saliers: i didn't know that. [laughs]

interviewer: tell us about the experience of doing the song for
philadelphia, you know, that experience, was that

emily saliers: well, first of all, it was important for both of us to be
involved with something like philadelphia, because amy and i have been
involved -- i'm not trying to blow our horn, because there are people who
have done so much more work than we have, but we've taken a strong interest
in the whole aids issue and have tried to, you know, play our part when we
can to do benefits, and so on. so, just to have a major hollywood movie take
on the subject of aids was important and we felt honored to be asked to be
part of it. we have our own issues with trying to make the whole aids thing
mainstream, so that the american public can swallow it. in some ways, we
wish it could be more bare bones.  we've seen people suffering first hand,
and we've seen families who don't accept their dying sons and daughters.  so
that's a whole separate thing.  but  just -- i think philadelphia was a good
thing, to finally have a major movie made about aids. and actually doing the
song -- [heh] -- we didn't pick that song, did we?

amy ray: no. they picked that song for us.

emily saliers: [simultaneously] scarlett rivera.

amy ray: --played violin. and we all got together on it.  you know, we
didn't just -- we didn't -- it was a live thing, a live vibe, the whole
thing was.  we recorded it live, actually.

emily saliers: yup.

interviewer: tell us a little bit about the process of making the album,
where you start from as far as - where you record as opposed to where you
mix, and the environments in which you go to and how it works.  how many
weeks do you spend, maybe, doing the parts and who you bring in .  a little
bit about the process.

amy ray: well.

emily saliers: well.

amy ray: we practice.

emily saliers: we practice.

amy ray: on our own.

emily saliers: we got three months off this summer, which is actually the
longest block of time we've had off in i don't know how many years.

amy ray: yeah. ever since we were probably born.

emily saliers: so, since we were born. we had this time and we wrote our
little songs and we -- we shot for november 1 at the starting point and we
wanted to be done by about end of february. so we're on schedule, which is a
miracle.  we recorded the last record in woodstock.  i actually love woodstock.

amy ray: yeah.

emily saliers: it's very expensive up there. so we -- honestly, one of the
things we thought about with nashville was that it would be more inexpenxive
and a lot of the musicians were closer to nashville and things like that. so
we got to nashville and we did preproduction, which is when jerry and sara
come in and peter is there, like a little conductor, and we all sit around
and jam and develop the basic skeletal musical ideas for the songs.

interviewer: for the rhythm sections?

emily saliers: yeah. right. rhythm sections. and then -- the whole time,
though, amy and i are thinking about who we'd like to sing harmony or who
into play, and peter throws ideas out and things like that.  sort of like,
just like a brainstorming

amy ray: yeah.

emily saliers: and then we have our block of studio time and we go in and we
actually start cutting the tracks.  which, typically, we try to do live,
with jerry and sara and then build around that. fix vocals after that, and
all that. and then we knew we were going to mix in atlanta.  it's the first
time we've done any part of our records in atlanta before -- i mean, since
we got signed to epic. we did our independent records here, but -- so it was
nice to be home mixing the record.  we got christmas off and new year's and
stuff like that. now, we're just about to finish up.

interviewer: tell me a little more, again, going back to the songs on the
album, and like when you do the harmonies, you were talking about harmonies,
how do you work that? do you like feed off each other when you're rehearsing
-- i mean, 'cause your voices just melt in and it's beautiful, they just
work so well together.  do you work -- go up this way, you do that this way
or does it just happen?

amy ray: well, we -- we write our songs separately, you know, so we spend a
good amount of time away from each other, really.  we do that anyway, but
we-- you know, especially when we have time off. we spend time away and we
prepare our songs. and when we have a few songs, we'll get together make a
tape for each other, so they can familiarize themselves.  we write out the
lyrics for each other, learn the guitar chords, and then we start working --
we usually -- we either nail the harmonies first or we nail the guitar parts
first. but when we do guitar parts, we try to each have different chord
voicings and make it as interesting as possible, as far as not both playing
the same thing. that's a real big thing, trying to have two distinctly
different guitar parts going on, that sound like one.  you know, that sound
simple, but aren't.  and then the harmonies, we -- it depends on the song.
you know, sometimes emily will have a specific harmony she's already written
out for one of her songs and basically she'll write the notes out for me and
i'll tape it, tape her singing it and learn it, you know. and sometimes
she'll bring a song in and we'll talk about the arrangement and i'll go,
what about this harmony?  and she'll go, no, no, go up here, go down there.
so it's a -- you know, and the same thing happens with my music.  so it's
really just a process of just practicing and making tapes and listening to
them and practicing again and-- we change stuff around, we're constantly
changing it.  we change it in the studio. we change it after we record,
usually the same song.

man: can you rehash that? we had a little -- she touched the mike -- you're
both on the same channel.

interviewer: as far as which part, just the beginning?  we'll come back.

man: the very end of that -- talking about two parts.

amy ray: oh, it's okay. we'll come back.

emily saliers: which two_parts? what?

interviewer: when you fine that -- you said -- you were talking about  your
two parts and the different parts.

amy ray: is it the whole last thing or just the--

man: just towards the very end.

amy ray: okay. about the harmonies?

man: right.

amy ray: okay. so as far as the harmonies go, we approach it the same way we
approach the guitar, where we work -- like i'll bring in a song and i'll
have a harmony idea all ready, and i'll teach it to emily.  or vice versa.
she'll write out notes for me and i'll learn it, you know, just by heart, by
what she wrote down. or we'll offer it to each other and say, do you have
any ideas and we'll just go through the song and sing it and the other
person jumps in. and you know, we -- we try to figure out like rounds, like
where -- she's something different from what i'm singing lyrically. because
a lot of time we'll have extra lyrics that we couldn't fit into the song,
and that's how we get them in.
[laughing] by singing a round. and so, that's -- the harmony thing is a lot
of practice.

emily saliers: yeah. oh [groan]

amy ray: yeah

interviewer: that goes to--i mean, the question.  i mean, being together,
working so much together. i mean, like, you say you had three months apart
or off since you started this whole project. how do you guys get along as
far as -- i mean, do you ever have, like -- i don't like that song or this
one's not working for me. i mean, how do you feed off each other, it must be
very difficult, always, constantly working things out together.  how does
that relationship personally also work with you two?

emily saliers: well, we have a really good relationship.  i mean, we've been
friends since elementary -- well, we weren't friends in elementary school,
but we knew each other then. we've been friends since high school.  and when
you know somebody that long, i mean, you just learn how to work with each
other and basically the way i feel is if -- touched my mike again --
basically the way i feel is if amy writes a song and she feels good about a
song, i'm ready and willing to learn that song and be part of that song.
and sometimes a song will hit you  immediately and you'll know you love it;
and other times a song will grow on you, just through your experience with
it and learning it together.  and -- i mean -- i could never write the songs
that amy writes, but i love the songs that she writes, in this album,
especially, i think her songs so it's just a - i don't know -- there was a
time, like, way back when this one song that amy wrote that i was just [amy
laughs] it was about squeaky fromme -- we probably told this story a million
times, but at that point in my life, i could not put my head in the place
where she was writing the lyrics about, you know, which was trying to
understand a point of view that was so foreign to my thinking.  and i just
said, i can't sing that song. if she'd written the song five years later, i
would have learned the song, i'm sure.

amy ray: maybe.

emily saliers: i probably would have.

amy ray: pretty strong song.

emily saliers: who knows? yeah.

amy ray: i mean, not strong in a good way, but--

emily saliers: but mostly, we just -- we go for what the other has done and
take joy in being a part of it.  that's how i feel about it.

amy ray: yeah, it's -- it's good, you know. we come from completely
different perspectives, we really do.

emily saliers: yeah. well, you know, i think we recognize the gifts that the
other ones brings to the duo.  you know, it's completely yin-yang, and it's
really so bizarre that it's -- a lot of times it doesn't make sense when you
think about it or to explain it. it's just something that happens.

amy ray: we're lucky.

emily saliers: yeah, we're lucky.

interviewer: speaking of that, how do you decide which ones are going to
make it on the album. like, how many
songs do you actually have recorded to what's going to go on the final
album? or is everything -- how many did you
write that didn't make it, and who decides the process -- you guys hearing
it decide which order and things like that. i mean, that's another full
project in itself, to decide which ones are going to come on and this and
that. how does that work?

amy ray: well, these days, we don't have that much.  it's just the ones ones
that we have.  emily usually has a few
extra, so emily's we usually have to talk about a little bit, you know, and
decide which ones we think are stronger.
they come out on their own.  the work -- it just happens naturally. the
songs that we learn are the strongest ones,
i think.

amy ray: i don't know how it happens, it just happens.  so we don't record
extras, ever. we don't have time to.  so we record -- this album we really
honed in on ten songs. we wanted to record--[laughs]

interviewer: take a pause for a minute.

emily saliers: take a pause.

interviewer: change places.

interviewer: getting back to philadelphia and the whole aids issue, stuff
like that. do you find that you -- i mean either of you -- you're talking
about love songs and how your songs are really quite simple -- but do you
try to have any -- like, you were saying sort of to that extent -- do you
try to make any political messages in your tracks, or try to aware the the
people since you are speaking to an audience?

amy ray: well, we don't try to make political messages.  we don't -- we
definitely      and calculate it. we have a certain amount of activism in
our lives, as much as we have, and as far as time goes.  i mean, our
songwriting is just an extension of what we feel.  so politics will come out
of that sometimes, if we're especially concerned about issues or have
something strike us at a moment when we're writing.  there's a song on the
record called "this train revised," which is like -- it's a takeoff on the
old folk song, "this train."  i wrote it after visiting the holocaust museum
and it's very specific, you know, holocaust specific, about all the jewish
and the gypsies and the homosexuals that died during the holocast.  and it's
-- that's very specific and very political and very obvious.  ut usually,
it's just something that permeates our music, just by the virtue of our
personalities.  you know, we'll throw up a comment here or there that might
be construed as political, i guess.

emily saliers: um hm.

interviewer: going back also to the issue of time and like writing songs.  i
mean, i myself sometimes have to write treatments and thoughts and things,
you know, things that have to be done on a deadline. do you ever get
blocked? is it ever like it can't come out?

emily saliers: i mean, i get writer's block a lot, a lot more now than i
used to, because, for one thing, i cannot write when i'm on the road.  the
pace is so exhausting. it's basically, you play a show.  let's start with
the show. you play the show and [laughs]

amy ray: let's start with sound check.

man:  waking up.

amy ray: let's start with waking up in the morning--

emily saliers: endless revolving thing.

amy ray: --and doing an interview.

emily saliers: we do an interview. no. it's like --

emily saliers: i'll start with the show. play the show and then do an after
show and meet people and so on and talk and so on.  and then go back and
maybe get our stuff all packed up from the hotel room and get on the bus.
and then usually we drive through a good portion of the night and get in our
hotel rooms at, like, five in the morning or so.  and then we wake up in the
city where we're going to play and then we work out, and then we shower --
not together, of course.  we shower independently and then we go to sound
check and then we eat dinner and then we play the show.  and it's like --
it's like that constantly.  and it's almost -- i feel like i have two lives.
my life on the road and my life i when we're not on the road.  and so, i get
my songs from life, for the most part, except for the
influence of travel and looking out the bus window and collecting your
thoughts and things like that.  but, i mean, i
have to feel very centered in order to be able to write a song, for the most
part, and so that's usually when i'm at home. so that's difficult, so i get
writer's block because of that.  and then, it's just limited time. like we
said, we got
three months off this summer, which was a lot relative to our past
experience. -but as far as being able to create --

amy ray: yeah, that's a lot relative to life, really, in general.  most
really, in general. most people don't get three months off.  that's the
lucky -- that's one lucky thing.

emily saliers: yeah. that's true. but then again, you know, it's -- most
people work their job and they come home and they have their evenings at
home and they have their weekends and so on.

woman:  schoolteachers.

amy ray: ah. schoolteachers.

emily saliers: [simultaneously] schoolteachers.

amy ray: but they have -- the schoolteachers have the hardest jobs ever

emily saliers: especially now.

interviewer: they're going to go to school all summer.

emily saliers: i know, what a bummer.

interviewer: okay. let's also -- we still haven't talked about specifically,
like, people that came to the album.  names and what they played and what
they brought to it.

amy ray: well we had a lot of interesting guests on this record.  we brought
some people back. the roches returned to sing on this album and sang on a
few songs. and we love -- we'll have them every record, probably, we love
them. jane siberry came and did a guest record, on a couple of emily's
songs. we're real big fans of hers and we thought it would really be a good
texture. she's kind of like an instrument, you know, as-much as she is a
vocalist. her voice is a real instrument.  so, we used her. lisa germano
came and played on this record.  she played on the last record also, and
she's the kind of person that we bring in and  just play all the songs for
and she does whatever she wants.  you know, and she plays all different
weird instruments that she normally would not play. and just goes to town.
she's very talented in a lot of different ways. we had chuck come and play a
bunch of piano and stuff, keyboards, chimes, mello-- what's that thing?
vibrachime.

emily saliers: yeah. he's very gifted.

amy ray: oh god. jerry marotta played drums. sara lee played bass.  we had
danny thompson play stand-up bass.  we had --

emily saliers: john  painter.

amy ray: john painter. he's from a band called fleming and john, in
nashville. he's great. he arranged strings on our record, with us.  he's
quirky. he's young, alternative, kind of artsy mindset.  he's great.
michael lorant from atlanta.  he's a drummer from a band called big fish
ensemble. we used him for vocals and drums, and he's amazing.

emily saliers: joelle sonier.

amy ray: joelle sonier.

emily saliers: with the french accordion, cajun accordion.  that's good fun.

amy ray: who else did we have? oh jane -- jane scarpentoni came in and
played cello. she's done a lot of
recent projects.  she did the maniacs unplugged thing and has played with
richard barone and rem and all these other great artists. and she had toured
with us all year.  so we brought her in to do some stuff. and--

emily saliers: your dad.

amy ray: my dad.

emily saliers: yay.

amy ray: my dad sang. my dad sang on a song. he sang on a song called "dead
man's hill."

emily saliers: mrs. fun.

amy ray: a group called mrs. fun -- i say they're from milwaukee now, won't
we. they're a jazz group and they're real weird and experimental. and we
have them as our guest band.  every album we have a guest band play backup
and work on the arrangement of one song with us. and they were our guest
band. -it's a two -- two-women, a keyboard, sort of synth player, which we
never usually use, and she plays melodica, too, and a drummer who's a real
interesting drummer.

emily saliers: and they're as wacky as we are, so it was cool.

amy ray: yeah. so, who else did we have for vocals?

emily saliers: let's see. michael and jane and-- well faron's going to read

amy ray: there's a woman named faron. she's a canadian singer-songwriter
who's been around for a long time.  whe's going to read the names at the
beginning of the song called "this train."

emily saliers: and we had shake anderson.  he like-- came up in the gospel i
heard him open up for someone in nashville and then we asked him to come
sing. and he sang. that was neat.

amy ray: yeah, that was cool

emily saliers: that's the first time we've ever done that.

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 05:46:44 -0500
reply-to:     carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
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from:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
subject:      articles being posted

it is good to know that the articles are being enjoyed.

all the ig articles that i have posted so far and will be posting are part
of a bigger collection of articles, set lists, and lyrics at our unofficial
ig web site (http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood).

if you have any articles, set lists, or lyrics that are not on the pages
please let me know so we can add them.  i am still working on typing up 800+
more articles for the site and another 200 set lists.

take care

carolyn

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 13:05:09 +0100
reply-to:     matthew j smith <indigojo@dillons.co.uk>
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from:         matthew j smith <indigojo@dillons.co.uk>
subject:      acoustic guitar magazine

hi there - does anyone know what has happened to acoustic guitar
magazine lately?   the last copy came through my door 6 weeks
ago, surely it's time for another one?   the idea of my subscription
having elapsed has crossed my mind but (a) i subscribed last
november and (b) the copy in the local newsagent's shop is
still the same as the last one.   are there any other subscribers
on the list and have they got the latest issue yet?   or has it
gone to the wall?

matthew j smith
indigojo@dillons.co.uk, mts5@aber.ac.uk, indigojo@freenet.hut.fi
web page - http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 10:04:53 -0400
reply-to:     water <water@nrv.net>
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from:         water <water@nrv.net>
subject:      caroline aiken on wrov
x-to:         atlartists@monsterbit.com

hey y'all, in the roanoke valley, va listening area- caroline aiken will be
on wrov (96.3) this friday at 5pm.. she'll then play at the full moon (in
the roanoke square) that night, and then open for radar rose on saturday
night at the coffee pot.. if you are in the area, check it out!

take care :)
brooke

"sit by a river, find peace and meaning in the rhythm of the lifeblood of
the earth..."  -anonymous
____________________________________________________________________________
                           gay but not narrow
                http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 23:09:59 +1000
reply-to:     eric graudins <beka@ozemail.com.au>
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from:         eric graudins <beka@ozemail.com.au>
subject:      to carolyn: thanks for the ig articles
x-to:         underdog@onramp.net

lo carolyn,

just wanted to let you know how much i appreciate the stream of ig
articles.
a small, but loyal group of ig fans in hobart, tasmania  positively
devour them. we can find out stuff all about ig anywhere else.

i really envy all you lucky people who can go to ig concerts within a few
hours drive.

thanks again, and take care of your typing fingers.

eric.

"although i can't be categorised by my musical style
hold the seeds of my songs in your heart for a while"
                                        -- fay white.

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 09:12:15 -0600
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subject:      more t-shirt news -- read if you ordered an xxl

hi...just to prove this project is legit, we just ran into a slight problem
:) i got news from the t-shirt printer that there is a problem getting the
xxl shirts in the organic cotton. apparently there is a shortage at the
mill (and will be for sometime). i gave the ok to subsitute a regular 100%
natural color shirt. it will still be a great quality shirt (a hanes
beefy-t for those keeping score) it just won't be organic. please note:
this affects the xxl only. if you ordered a l or xl, you will be getting an
organic shirt.

in addition to it's non-organic nature, the regular xxls also come to us a
bit cheaper -- like 90 cents cheaper. if it's ok will all of you who are
affected, we'd just as soon donate the extra to charity instead of
refunding you the 90 cents (42 xxl shirts were ordered). as was expressed
in the orginal notice about the shirt project, we had said any overages
would be donated to a cause that rob and i believe in; so, that's what we'd
like to follow through with.

this would also be a good time to let you know that we did get more orders
than we anticipated when we set the prices, so we anticipate some money (in
addition to the overage due to the xxl problem) left over after all the
bills are paid. we don't have a final number at this time, but as soon as
we know for sure we let you all know and we will fill you in on the
organization it will be donated to.

if you have any questions or concerns, please let me know.

deb

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 10:37:02 -0400
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subject:      t-shirts

        42xxl tees ordered!  boy, either the same portly person
     multiple ordered or there are plenty of linebackers on
     this list. just had to remard, sorry!

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from:         lisa savu <weenracer@aol.com>
subject:      re: songs before they were songs

hey --
i erased the address of the person who's compiling the list of "songs before
they were songs", so i guess i'm going to have to use the more public forum,
here...   i have a tape of amy performing a couple of songs from so at
eddie's attic from 9/93, before the album came out.  the song that may be of
interest to you is "dead man's hill", where the lyrics are very slightly
different. also, there's one song where she introduces it by saying, "this is
really new... i just finished it" --  but i forget which one it is, (could be
"dead man's hill" again... i'll have to go listen to the tape).  on this
particular night, she was joined onstage by cooper seay, wayne glass, (from
viva la diva), and a couple other locals.  anyway, if you're interested in
using this material, let me know. :)

---lisa

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from:         jude shabry <jude@arisia.org>
subject:      re: t-shirts
in-reply-to:  your message of "thu, 18 jul 1996 10:37:02 edt."
              <9607181432.aa00355@dpsc.dla.mil>

daly shawn <paa4687@dpsc.dla.mil> writes:
>         42xxl tees ordered!  boy, either the same portly person
>      multiple ordered or there are plenty of linebackers on
>      this list. just had to remard, sorry!

*laugh*  well, i ordered a xxl in addition to the one shirt for me
to wear, and one for my sweetie to wear..  figured it'd make a nice
overshirt for the beach, or a nightshirt or something.. :)

(now i can hear all those voices saying, "hey, i wish i'd done
that!" ;)

    -jude, "not a linebacker, but i play one on the list."

ps: anyone have any word on the dc show?  was there ever any evidence
besides speculation?  the 9:30 club didn't have a show listed for aug
18 at last count..

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        yes even those highly discriminated against big people like ig
too.


on thu, 18 jul 1996, daly shawn wrote:

>         42xxl tees ordered!  boy, either the same portly person
>      multiple ordered or there are plenty of linebackers on
>      this list. just had to remard, sorry!
>
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from:         daly shawn <paa4687@dpsc.dla.mil>

        dear senseofhumorless list members,
              i really didn't think i would get a reaction. i
figured some would have enough sense to recognize a joke. but i
sure as hec didn't say anything to the effect that i didn't
like football players or large people cause i do. obviously,
for some reason, people have chips on their shoulders, causing
them to hastily jump to the conclusion or assume that somebody
is prejudiced. sorry for the offense, get it "offense " and i
won't do it again.:(.

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 11:24:24 -0500
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subject:      newport passes and a ?

hello, all,

     >peeks from beneath obscurity tarp, looks both ways, runs to
double yellow line and waves arms<

     i'm just de-lurking to ask a couple of things.  first of all,
does anyone know what's going on with dana's friend who had the
accident on the way to new orleans?  dana?  are you out there?
weren't they gonna try to make it to newport?   just wondering...

    also, by the virtue of procrastination, i've just decided to be
ri-bound in august, so if anyone hear's of two newport two-day passes
which are available, could'ya let me know?  thanks!  i'll be out of
town over the weekend (my dad's big 70th b-day bash - dysfunctional
city!) so if you email me i'll get back to you at the beginning of
the week.
bye now
remember                                           peace
                               maureen

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in-reply-to:  <9607181523.aa01681@dpsc.dla.mil>

well im a large person who ordered an xxl shirt, and i grinned when i read
your original post. not everybody is senseofhumorless. but i guess you
have to be a large person to really understand the discrimination we deal
with on a daily basis (people tend to think you are unattractive and they
treat you accordingly -- it goes deeper than that but that sums it up
pretty much imo). i know exactly what the difference is like too, i used
to be a size 3 ballet dancer who looked hot in a pair of levis -- with
enough feminine curve to make it look normal and not skeletal. total
strangers treated me a lot differently than they do now, especially men
(sorry guys, it's true). a lot of us can still recognize a joke when we
see it. but even though i grinned i couldn't help but think "ok, someone
is gonna get flamed hard for that." i could recognize *why* people would
be upset and i anticipated you getting a lot of response from it. try not
to judge the people who were hurt and expressed it, the chips on the their
shoulders are there for a very real reason. :)

kristina

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on thu, 18 jul 1996, daly shawn wrote:

>         dear senseofhumorless list members,
>               i really didn't think i would get a reaction. i
> figured some would have enough sense to recognize a joke. but i
> sure as hec didn't say anything to the effect that i didn't
> like football players or large people cause i do. obviously,
> for some reason, people have chips on their shoulders, causing
> them to hastily jump to the conclusion or assume that somebody
> is prejudiced. sorry for the offense, get it "offense " and i
> won't do it again.:(.

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 12:56:27 edt
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subject:      angie in kc? heellllloooo? (nigc)

hi...angie, if you are still on the list, please email me!!!! thanks so
much...sorry everyone....when my laptop got stolen many of my addresses
disappeared with it....

one random thought: thursday is my happy day. i'm all squiggly. hope you're
squiggly too.

susan

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subject:      re: (nigc) re: your mail

>well im a large person who ordered an xxl shirt, and i grinned when i =
read
>your original post. not everybody is senseofhumorless. but i guess you
>have to be a large person to really understand the discrimination we =
deal
>with on a daily basis (people tend to think you are unattractive and =
they
>treat you accordingly -- it goes deeper than that but that sums it up

kristina,

i totally agree. i too am somewhat of a large person (6' 5" and about =
265 lbs, and most of  that is ben & jerry's chunky monkey!!). i also =
found the original post humorous. it is a rare occasion when i can find =
shirts, especially t-shirts, that will fit me.... i mean the xl swamp =
ophelia shirt i bought during that tour looks like it belongs to one of =
my children (if i actually had any!!) or a younger and smaller =
sibling... however, i tend to try to have a decent sense of humor about =
this... unless of course i have spent 4 or 5 hours in the mall trying to =
find something that will fit me!!

peace y'all,

dan perkins

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hi all!

no real ground-breaking news, i just thought i would share my smile!
right now (at work, listening to a usually great radio station) a
radio station called 107.5 "the end" was kind enough to play "least
complicated".  (i didn't even have to call to request it, either!:))

(yes, the smallest things make my day!)

valerie

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subject:      a little note from jenny.

i have just finished going through the last of my messages from all of
you crazy ig fans.  thanks for all the support you have given me.  and
thanks for sending me to newport with my friends to see the ig.  it is
the one thing i have really been looking forward to this summer.

if you havent heard, i got an autographed picture from the indigo girls
with a get well soon message on it.  it was the picture that loks like a
poster from the 1200 curfews.  do yuo know which one?  so thanks for
everyones persistence to get me that.

i look forward to meeting a whole bunch of you in a few weeks!!
jenny.

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subject:      nigc - on gay marriage....

i thought some people might enjoy this....

kd


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date: wed, 17 jul 1996 09:42:37 -0400 (edt)


the san francisco examiner
p. o. box 7260,san francisco,ca,94120
fax:  415-512-1264, e-mail: sfexaminer@aol.com
sunday, july 14, 1996
rob morse column

           house prevents gay divorce

     my marriage has been threatened by a lot of things, including
arguments, marathon silences, raging hormones (mine), midlife crisis
(mine), dirty clothes piles (hers) and occasional failure (mine) to wash
the backs of plates.
    my marriage has never been threatened by bob wanting to marry ted,
or carol getting engaged to alice.
   now, with the passage of the so-called  "defense of marriage act,"
the house of representatives has saved the battered institution of
heterosexual marriage. let the marriage counselors of america, the ones
who aren't in congress, join the unemployment lines.
   if the bill passes the senate, gay couples won't be able to share the joys
of government-sanctioned connubial bliss.  they'll have to decide who
takes out the garbage without benefit of marriage licenses.
   oh, yeah. and american civilization will be saved.

   and now a word about some of the legislators who saved the
institution of marriage and america.
   bob barr, r-ga., the sponsor of the bill, declared on the floor
of congress that  "the flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the
flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundations of our
society, the family unit."
   barr ought to know about family units because he's been married three
times. and he knows about the licking flames of hedonism too. he once
was caught licking whipped cream off the chests of two buxom women.
   of course, that's ok, because it was disgusting straight sex, not
disgusting gay sex. however, it was shockingly high in fat grams.

   then of course you have the speaker of the house, newt gingrich,
r-ga., whose idea of traditional family values was to visit his
cancer-stricken first wife in the hospital to say he was leaving her.
   paying guys like this to defend marriage is like paying bonnie and
clyde to guard your bank.

   that's what we're doing - paying meddling politicians to deal with
nonexistent problems. more precisely, to make problems.
   they're trying to make problems for bill clinton, and turn him into the
best man of the gay marriage party. it's a desperation move by
republicans saddled with a dud candidate for president. as sen. ted
kennedy said, this should be called  "the defense of endangered
republicans act."
   president clinton responded in true form, out of both sides of his
mouth.  he said he opposes discrimination against any group of
americans, but will sign the bill because he  "has long opposed gay
marriage."
   another guy whose advice on marriage we need.

   the backers of the anti-gay marriage act say they're saving american
civilization - you know, the heterosexual civilization that brought us al
and peggy bundy.
   rep. steve largent, r-okla., who used to run around and get smacked
in the head by nfl free safeties, said,  "no culture that has ever
embraced homosexuality has ever survived."
   steve, no culture has ever survived. they all decline and fall.
homosexuality somehow stays with the human race, though.
   largent seems to have been referring to ancient greek culture, as
represented by pederastic philosophers who live on in the western
civilization courses conservatives love so much.
   so greek culture doesn't live on? what was that olympic flame all
about?  think greco-roman wrestling, steve.

    for the first time, the federal government has tried to define marriage.
legislators who claim to favor states' rights, religious freedoms and
individual rights are overregulating intimate human relationships.
   the house has forbidden citizens to peaceably assemble as man and
man in their own bedrooms. the house that treasures the right to keep
and bear arms can't bear two women legally in each other's arms.
   the problem with most washington politicians is that they're so busy
boozing and bimboing that they've never seen a gay relationship.
   they should do some field work in san francisco, where the only
normal people on the average block are gay couples.
   i live in a bungalow that was occupied for 45 years by two women,
easily the stablest relationship for a radius of three miles.
   on my old block the two gay men next door were quiet, loving, neat
and owned a successful small business.
   the other neighbors included a psychopathic heterosexual redneck
couple who kept a .357 magnum stashed in their broken dishwasher, and
a zoned-out heterosexual hippie couple who grew pot in a house with so
many grow-lights it glowed like something from  "the x-files."
   everybody else was single and lonely.

   congress should ensure domestic tranquility, not prevent more perfect
unions. if they want to save marriage, they should pass a law requiring
that the backs of dishes shall always be washed.

    *note:  rob morse's e-mail address is   morse@examiner.com

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hey everybody. i'm looking to buy an amp and i was hoping for some
suggestions beacuse i'm pretty clueless as far as amps go, and i know if i
ask at the music store i'll walk out with a 2 million dollar amp. i just
want something to plug my martin acoustic into so i can mike it like ig do
for gigs, and so on. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance,

derek

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hi all-

maureen was asking what's all been up with jenny and if we are going to
newport.  well, thanks to the extreme generosity of the list members who
took up a collection, we will be at newport, and jen and i were talking
on the phone last night about just how incredibly excited we are to go.
from her post, i think you can see, that, too.  i'm sorry about my lack
of communication for a while.  things were cruising along with two summer
classes, volunteering, and two jobs, when i came down with shingles and
was out for a while.  but i am going home to nd to recuperate for a while
and be ready for newport, and i'm sure i will be.  i do have a question
about newport, though, for any of you who have been there before.  i was
looking on the newport web page, and it said that the concerts go from
11:30 to about 6:30.  how accurate is that?  i mean, sunday, i would love
if ig played on and on, but how long do you think it will be?  sheila is
having some problems arranging work and might need to change her plane
ticket, so if anyone could get back to me on this, i would really
appreciate it.  she's an orientation leader here at the u, and will be
desperately needed by thousands of wide-eyed, completely lost freshmen on
monday.  other than that, i can't wait to meet some of you in ri!

one last big, big, thank you to trant for arranging everything!

dana

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date:         thu, 18 jul 1996 18:07:21 edt
reply-to:     bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         bertin lefkovic <indigboy@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      nff hotel info - last chance

tomorrow is the deadline for me to receive money for the hotel rooms that i
have booked at newport.  however, if you e-mail by 6:00pm est tomorrow, i may
still be able to hold the door open for you.  following is the general info.

the new and final due date for money to be received for this is
friday, july 19th.  this supersedes all dates posted previously.


i have been able to get an extension on my group reservation at the best
western in newport.  the new due date is july 5, 1996.  if you are interested
in getting a room or a space in a room, i need to receive your money by then.

cost:

friday/saturday - $160 per room/$40 per person per night

sunday          - $120 per room/$40 per person per night

send money to:

bertin lefkovic
13 besler avenue
cranford, nj  07016
(908)418-7115

call or e-mail me if you need any additional information


there are no strangers here - only friends you haven't met yet

let it grow

bert

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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: emily's b-day

at 02:03 am 7/18/96 gmt, you wrote:
>herbert huels,73771.760@compuserve.com writes:
>hey everyone!
>i've been off the list for a while, so i don't know if this has been
>discussed,
>but what are we doing for e's b-day??
>are we going to have an all emily day??
>
>i definitely think we should declare july 22 all emily day, much in the same
>way april 12 was amy day, which was really cool. listers can share personal
>encounter stories, or discuss how her songs have affected them, or even
>(imagining that she would read them) write birthday greetings. maybe we could
>even compile them and find a way to send them to her. :)
>
>what does everyone think?
>
>anna
>


all emily day works for me!! also, i liked the idea of sending em birthday
cards(mails?) i volunteer to be in charge of this if no one else wants to(if
anyone else out there wants to, go right ahead!).  i just need to know where
to send them so that she will actually get and read them...

thoughts?

tiff

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subject:      absolutely nigc, but please read anyway

                                "ophelia"
                          (or oaffie for short)

... is the sweetest little puppy you have ever seen. she is about 4 1/2
weeks old and mostly rottie. already paper trained! she entered our lives
through a friend of my teenage daughter. sadly, because of allergies, i
cannot keep her. she is absolutely wonderful and i really want to find her a
good home. everyone on the list seems so full of love, i figured it couldn't
hurt to ask. i don't want any money for her, just someone to love her like i
do. she doesn't look like she's going to be really big, so she won't take up
too much room (only in your heart). she & i live near boston, but i would be
willing to bring her to anyone within 100 miles or so. hope someone out
there can help. she deserves the best and she's already been well
doctrinated into ig music!

thanks for letting me post this.

hugs,
deb

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from:         "<sharon jennings>" <jennings_sharon/furman@furman.edu>
subject:      good radio
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in-reply-to:  <s1ede222.034@mail.adm.alpine.k12.ut.us>

> hi all!
>
> no real ground-breaking news, i just thought i would share my smile!
> right now (at work, listening to a usually great radio station) a
> radio station called 107.5 "the end" was kind enough to play "least
> complicated".  (i didn't even have to call to request it, either!:))
>
> (yes, the smallest things make my day!)
>
> valerie

there is another enlightened radio station.... "you are listening to
wpls 96.7fm, furman university, greenville. the best alternative".

but then they do happen to have a great dj who i know personally... me!!


sharon

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from:         seaphish@aol.com
subject:      nigc- other newport artists

hi everyone,

in an attempt to familiarize myself with some of the other artists who will
be appearing at the nff, i'm off on a cd hunt.  i wonder if anyone out in
cyberland can help me choose those cds which best represent each artist's
works, as i definitely cannot afford to buy all the albums ever recorded!

after seeing ani difranco perform at the clearwater hudson revival festival
in val halla, ny last month, i was immediately intrigued.  i know that she
has several albums out, but don't know where to start.  i bought dilate, but
want to get a sense of some of the older music.  btw, can you believe that
dilate was in one of those end-of-the-aisle racks of 'popular' music, as a
'selection of the month'?  i hadn't realized that she was gaining so much
popular attention.  anyway, so if anyone can suggest one or two other albums
which really do it for you, please email me!

bruce cockburn is someone who i've always heard of, but am not familiar with
his music at all.  i saw about 10 albums and again, have no clue where to
begin.  anyone who can lead me in the right direction?

and if there's anyone who wants to make any other musical suggestions, either
other artists in the newport line-up, or anyone else, i'd welcome any input.

thanks, thanks, thanks !!!!

-sheri : )

....when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that
are cast....

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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu>
subject:      my lsat score (nigc)

guess what y'all.... i got a 157 out of 180 on my law school admission
test!! i am =) =) n=) =) =) tee hee it'a almost friday!!!!!! (sorry i
am goofy now!!!) froot loops, kel
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the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy.
if you don't make dust, you eat it.

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subject:      (nigc) our absent goddess kim

hey all... i just wanted to pass on to everyone that kim fischer, aka
goddess of "eh", aka supreme goddess of the inane, aka all sorts of other
things... has been temporarily kidnapped from being online.  as a result,
you may see some posts getting bounced back from her address.  never fear,
however, as our brave goddess is at this very moment fighting her way
back.... she expects to have vanquished the horrid demons by friday night
(pacific time)... until then please accept her apologies for those
irritating return messages from rcn@prcn.org... it was unforseen and
unavoidable and un-other-stuff, not the least of which is unfun.  she will
be back.  this i can guarantee!

        the goddess's humble messenger/lackey/servant/slave...( yeah right,
dream on babe...<w!>)

        tracy
~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^returning to my mountains!!!
        countdown - approx 5 weeks!

"all those voices,they whisper through my walls
        they talk of falling fast,  they say i'm losing it all...
        they say i'm running blind to a love of my own
but i'll be walking proud, i'm saving what i still own..."
        --- amy ray, "nashville"

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on thu, 18 jul 1996 seaphish@aol.com wrote:

>
>
> after seeing ani difranco perform at the clearwater hudson revival festival
> in val halla, ny last month, i was immediately intrigued.  i know that she
> has several albums out, but don't know where to start.  i bought dilate, but
> want to get a sense of some of the older music.  btw, can you believe that
> dilate was in one of those end-of-the-aisle racks of 'popular' music, as a
> 'selection of the month'?  i hadn't realized that she was gaining so much
> popular attention.  anyway, so if anyone can suggest one or two other albums
> which really do it for you, please email me!
>
>
>
> -sheri : )
>
> ....when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that
> are cast....
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sheri,

first i must say "go ani !!!!"   ok, that having been said...

my personal ani fave is "not so soft"... but i must admit that that is
only the third album of her's that i have heard.  she has some totally
moving lyrics on that tape/cd, and she has a lot of humor in it too.  she
speaks of life, no matter how harsh (but of course, she does all of this
on the other albums i have heard of hers).

i have not heard "dilate"  yet, but from what i have heard, you may get a
surprise.  i hear she has a very different style on the new cd, very
orchestrated, and you can't really hear her sing.  and she doesn't do one
of her "talkies" (where she basically recites a poem to a beat).... again,
this is all stuff i have heard from fellow fans.

happy hunting!!!!
elaine

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 18 jul 1996

>date:    thu, 18 jul 1996 13:33:01 -0700
>from:    derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
>subject: nigc - guitar question
>
>hey everybody. i'm looking to buy an amp and i was hoping for some
>suggestions beacuse i'm pretty clueless as far as amps go, and i know if i
>ask at the music store i'll walk out with a 2 million dollar amp. i just
>want something to plug my martin acoustic into so i can mike it like ig do
>for gigs, and so on. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks in advance,
>
>derek
>
i really don't recomend miking into a guitar amp.  it's best to have a piezo
transducer installed in the bridge of your accoustic and plug right in. while
this is not quite as natural or as warm as actually miking the guitars
soundhole, but it gives you freedom of movement and greatly reduces the
risks of feedback.  i use a lr baggs pickup in the bridge of my guild d-50
and absolutely love it.  i installed a new endpin that houses a jack, so i
didn't
have to drill a hole in the side of my guitar.  i run out from the jack through
a dod bi-fet preamp and ibanez stereo  chorus pedals (the bifet gives tone
and gain control, the chorus fattens up the sound) and then either into
a trace elliot amplifier that is intended for accoustic guitar amplification or
(preserably) through a direct box that allows me to plug directly into the
sound board.  both methods sound good, the second can be majestic.   i
have used martin thinline piezo pickups, but to my ear, the lr baggs pickups
have far more warmth and body.  if you don't have the option of plugging
directly into the sound board, just about any guitar amp will sound pretty
good as long as it's clean enough.  (ie old fenders not marshalls) peaveys
are usually pretty good and are fairly inexpensive.

dave neale

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subject:      web page graphics (sigc

questions-

if you wish to create your own graphics for a web page, what is a good
drawing program to use?  i have aldus superpaint for my macintosh, but
it is difficult to draw anything too detailed without going blind.

also, where on the net is a good source for ig graphics that can be used
on personal web pages?

i hope i can finally begin putting a page together here shortly.  i'm debating
whether to learn html code or just use something like an html editor that's
built in a web browser.  i welcome and would greatly appreciate any advice
from those of you out there with knowledge on this subject.

mary

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subject:      1989:  russell carter

june 14, 1989 -- the atlanta journal constitution

decatur attorney makes a case for rock 'n' roll
by steve murray

the waiting room of russell carter's law office in downtown decatur looks
pretty typical: solemn leather chairs, corporate grayblue carpet and a print
of renior waltzers. but the walls of his inner sanctum often pound and
rattle to a rock 'n' roll bass thump and ringing electric guitars. and the
clients who straggled out his door one recent  afternoon sported ponytails,
earrings and t-shirts.

mr. carter, 35, devotes his entire practice to the music industry,
representing some 30 bands or artists signed to major record labels and 50
that are unsigned or signed with small labels.

his client list constitutes a college-airwave bonanza of musicians -
including dreams so real, the reivers, the royal crescent mob, matthew
sweet, timbuk 3, widespread panic and robyn hitchcock (when the british
singer-songwriter needs legal work stateside).

in addition, mr. carter manages the atlanta-based indigo girls, the athens
band guadalcanal diary and vocalist kris mckay from austin, texas.

though they went to him for legal advice, amy ray and emily saliers of the
indigo girls didn't expect mr. carter to become their manager - to them, he
didn't seem sleezy enough to fit the stereotype. "he was not like a slick,
'love-ya-babe' kind of guy. he's not hollywood at all," ms. saliers says of
mr. carter, who is married to a corporate bankruptcy lawyer and is the
father of a 9-month-old son.

the artistic and commercial stakes are high for the indigo girls, whose
first major label album charted last week at no. 65 on billboard's album
list, and ms. ray says unhesitatingly, "we trust him with everything."

like the waiting room, mr. carter's inner office is deceptively
ordinary...at first glance. but there's a monster stereo system in the
corner behind his desk, a jammed cassette case climbing the wall, an
appreciation plaque from r.e.m., a guitar leaning near the window and
(beside the staid, green-shaded desk lamp) a paperweight on the desk made
from a lump of unpressed vinyl that sports the indigo girls' album label.

reclining behind his desk, he's wearing a crisp white shirt, subdued floral
tie and a haircut that trends the line between hip and establishment.
speaking about what her terms "an all-or- nothing business," he says, your
typical musician spends all his time writing and performing, not getting
paid anything in the early days.... then, five years down the line, they can
be making millions of dollars. i don't know any other business that that's
true of."

mr. carter speaks soberly, guardedly, with only an occasional chuckle. "he's
very reserved," says says. saliers, "and i think that's an advantage of
his." adds ms. ray: "he's so dry."

despite the outward sobriety, it's easy to imagine the lanky, pale lawyer
jamming in a basement somewhere. in fact, he grew up playing rock 'n' roll
as a hobby with friends, and he attended the university of georgia law
school at a time when the athens music scene was blossoming.

in 1980, mr. carter began practicing general law: personal injury, corporate
work, divorces, etc. when r.e.m.'s attorney - an old college friend - took a
leave of absence, soon after, mr. carter handled the band's legal work for a
year. the group showed it's appreciation by giving him the plaque - and,
more substantially, by pointing other bands in his direction. "half the work
is learning the legal end, the contract work," he says of his work in rock.
"the other half is, you've got to know people. you have to know the heads of
companies that sign bands." this  professional schmoozing means lots of
travel: he jets at least twice a month to new york, and every other month to
los angeles. moving his base to either of those cities wouldn't make life
easier, he believes. "if you live there, you end up traveling a lot
cross-country." besides, he says, "i think this is an ideal situation. most
of the musical talent in the world came from the south."

mr. carter says the rockers he represents tend to be split 50-50 in terms of
business smarts. "sometimes i think it's best [for the musicians] to leave
the business end to lawyers and managers so they can really devote all their
time and energy to their art," he says. "i certainly want the people i
represent to know what's going on, but i think as an artist you can overdo
it. you get too absorbed in the business end of it, then you start
second-guessing record companies and start to think, 'oh, this could be a
hit, let me write it this way and give them top 40.' that's always a mistake."

mr. carter negotiated "a great deal" for the indigo girls, ms. saliers says,
explaining that he held out for percentages and royalties instead of
settling for up-front money. "he's not a short term thinker."

and he doesn't manage groups for their financial potential. "i couldn't see
getting involved with a band on a management level unless i felt like i
could be very good friends with the people, as well as working with them on
a business level," mr. carter says.

the indigo girls share the sentiment. "i've called him when i've had
personal problems," ms. ray says. "i'm really in conflict with the values of
the music business, but he's somebody i consider as a friend."

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subject:      newport wishes...

hi y'all (correct?),

i'm temporarily throwing off my "lurking" to say this: ahhhhh!
i think i speak for (possibly) several other pained list members
when i say that it has been soooooo difficult reading all of these
posts from those of you are are able to get to the ig concerts and
such!  i'm sure that if i was totally crazy i could spend the
money to drive to the states (i'm in canada) and eventually make
my way to one of the venues (provided i could find it on the map)
but work and finances don't allow it (sorry, but our dollar really
sucks right now).  anyways, i'm not too bitter ;)  i hope everyone
has a great time at newport and if anyone gets any pictures, i'd
be willing to pay top $$ for copies!  have a great weekend,

denise

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subject:      re: newport wishes...

in a message dated 96-07-19 09:39:43 edt, deng@vnet.ibm.com (denise eng)
writes:

> i'm sure that if i was totally crazy i could spend the
>money to drive to the states (i'm in canada) and eventually make
>my way to one of the venues (provided i could find it on the map)
>but work and finances don't allow it (sorry, but our dollar really
>sucks right now).  anyways, i'm not too bitter ;)  i hope everyone
>has a great time at newport and if anyone gets any pictures, i'd
>be willing to pay top $$ for copies!  have a great weekend,
>
>denise

denise, you should find out about the lewiston, ny show.  it's up by niagara
falls near the canada border, and depending on whether you're living in
eastern canada, it may not be such a far drive after all.  i forget though,
when that show is scheduled for, so it possibly may require a day or two off
from work.  hope you can make it!

-sheri

....when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that
are cast....

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 06:58:16 -0700
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      newport tickets

i have one two day pass and one ticket for friday night available
for sale for newport in 3 weeks (!!) i will sell them at face value
plus the service charge.  i am still going to nweport, but my
tickets have been taken care of, so i can sell the ones i bought.
this is first come, first served....


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      upfdate on tickets

the two day pass is gone, but the friday night ticket reamins.

again,
that ticket is $20, with $1.50 order fee (from what i paid).
again, the friday nigth show is "on a summer's night" with
patty larkin, john gorka, cliff eberhardt, and cheryl wheeler.
this will be a *fabulous* show...great music and you will split
your sides lauighing.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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subject:      newport transportation
x-cc:         alan@nysernet.org

ok i am just full of newport posts today!

a friend of mine is looking for transportation help.  he will
be looking to go from boston to nwport on friday the 9th around
4 ish.  and he needs a ride back to the rochester/syracuse area
after sunday's show.  his nam is alan and he runs the folk music list.
super nice guy and great company.  if anyone can hlp out here,
feel free to e-mail me, or contact him directly at alan@nysernet.org.

thanks!

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 11:11:51 -0500
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from:         dan perkins <dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us>
subject:      upcoming ig shows

hi all,

i was wondering if any of y'all knew if the upcoming ig shows are going =
to feature only amy & emily or if sara lee and/or jerry will be along??

as a bass player myself i always enjoy listening to sara lee play bass, =
i think she is one of the best and most melodic bassists since paul =
mccartney...

peace,

dan

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 12:25:25 -0400
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subject:      nigc: disappear fear in nj tonight

fyi -

just found out that disappear fear will be playing at club bene in south
amboy, nj tonight (7/19).  doors open at 8:00, but they say the band comes
on around 10:00 - 10:30 ish.

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 12:54:28 edt
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subject:      re: emily's b-day

good idea!
i say, you collect the emails and send them to russel carter (sorry, but i don't
know the address)
does anybody out there know it???
go emily!!!   :)
-moe (simone)

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 13:41:08 est
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subject:      nigc: nashville???

     hi! sorry to waste space with this
     --this is for any nashville area listies--
     i just found out that i'm going to nashville in september for a
     computer seminar--i'll be stayin' on metro center blvd.
     am i far from anything worth seeing?
     what is worth seeing/doing?
     thanks, in advance

     "but the wooden ships were a
                                                        hippie dream...

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 12:06:49 -0700
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from:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: web page graphics (sigc
x-to:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199607190626.caa15758@netspace.org>

i'll post to the entire list, in case it is of interest to others who are
doing pages.  graphics programs are enormously expensive, but if you want
something really cool try fractal design painter.  (it's the one in the
paint can).  that's what i used to make the backgrounds for my pages.  if
you want to draw/paint, it has loads of brushes and tools.  if you aren't
feeling especially creative you can also use the distortion tools to make
a really lame pic into something exceptionally cool.  i had superpaint
when i had a mac and it was nowhere near as cool as painter.  i've heard
the corel products are pretty cool; they used to be the industry standard
but i think other products like painter are catching up.
as for html editors, unless your internet provider has a really cool html
editor, i would look around on the web for some shareware for a good html
editor.  we use dida, which is shareware, and it's really a great little
program, and hardly uses any disk space.  i imagine it's available for mac
but i'm not sure.  this particular product makes it really easy to learn
html while you are using the editor to put together your page.
the only reason i have all this info is because my fiance is a webmaster
for a computer company.  i'm extremely lucky because he gets software at
ridiculous discounts.  we got fractal design painter very very cheap, as
well as photoshop, director, ray dream design studio, and others.  but i
do understand that these programs are huge outlays of money if you don't
have a "connection".  i hope this helps!--gwen

on fri, 19 jul 1996, mary kushman wrote:

> questions-
>
> if you wish to create your own graphics for a web page, what is a good
> drawing program to use?  i have aldus superpaint for my macintosh, but
> it is difficult to draw anything too detailed without going blind.
>
> also, where on the net is a good source for ig graphics that can be used
> on personal web pages?
>
> i hope i can finally begin putting a page together here shortly.  i'm debating
> whether to learn html code or just use something like an html editor that's
> built in a web browser.  i welcome and would greatly appreciate any advice
> from those of you out there with knowledge on this subject.
>
> mary
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subject:      sorry: newport wishes (nigc)

just wanted to apologize for an apparent double posting
of the same thing.  the daemon told me it had rejected
my first posting so i tried it again later that afternoon -
i certainly wasn't trying to repreat myself!  anyways,
sorry,

denise   ps: this should teach me to come out of lurk-mode.. ;)

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 16:04:39 edt
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      ahhh, the dreaded vanity plate (sigc)

hi pals and gals, gals and pals

lots of my pals are gals, but that's beside the point...
anyway sweeties...
any cool ideas for my nh license plate? i have been told the cost for a
*vanity* plate (i hate that...i'm not vain...i don't even look in the
mirror...ummmm....) is minimal here so i  want to do it....god, am i crazy-zany
or what? woo-hoo, livin on the edge.

anyways, throw me your ideas. limited to 6 characters here in nh.  i really
want something indigo-ish. my pal sue suggested just plain "indigo" but i'm
betting that one's taken, so i'd love some backups....

okay, its friday at 4pm and i wanna go home! i'm sure i am not the only one :)

tata my pretties. 3 weeks from today we'll be in newport, rhode island...yeehaw
susan

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from:         jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
subject:      "ophelia" nigc

hey everyone!

i just had to post a public thank you to kira!! she has been trying to help
me find a home for the pup that i posted about on the list. she has
contacted people that she knows and has gotten numbers for me and
everything. in general, she's really gone beyond what i'd ever expected. i
knew the people on this list were full of love ... even for little puppies.
maybe now, ophelia will have a better chance at finding a good home. thanks
again, kira!

hugs,
deb

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subject:      newport wishes

hi y'all (correct?),

i couldn't stand it any longer and had to come temporarily out of
lurk-mode to vent my frustration: ahhhhhh!!  i think that i speak
for (possibly) several other list members when i say that it is
terribly painful to read these posts and "listen" to y'all making
plans to attend these ig concerts in the states.  for us non-us
members, it is a tad painful.  of course, i could go nuts and
drive down (assuming of course i could find it on the map) but
unfortunately job and finances do not allow for it (the cdn.
dollar is not too healthy down south! ;)  oh well, such is life!
but seriously, i really do hope that anyone who is heading down
to newport etc. has a great time, and if anyone ends up getting
any photos (from any concert) i would be willing to pay top $$ for
copies of them.  give me a shout if interested.  have a great
weekend,


denise

p.s.  personal congrats to deb and rob on the t-shirts!

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 15:35:19 -0500
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subject:      there's nothing quite like sara lee.

hi cats and kittens,

>as a bass player myself i always enjoy listening to sara lee play bass..

dan perkins, i couldn't agree more!!!  i, too am a bassist and have been
having a great time learning the 1200c bass parts.  my god, the soulful
lines on mystery , tangled... and thin line are a perfect compliment to the
acoustics!

i like that you compared her to mccartney:  i recently had a devil of a
time on the xtc mailing list when i offhandedly compared a&e to john and
paul.  i had to fend off several irate pop fans while making my case that
these ladies are progressively, quietly staking out larger areas of musical
turf.  but you know, xtc fans are pretty damn pretentious; it's a tough
crowd....

anyway, hoping to meet some of you folks in hampton beach...

andrew

andrew bissaro
bbn on the world wide web
http://www.bbn.com
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(617) 873-3024
"i do everything from the heart, from personal conviction. if you try to
find love by charting a course, you'll never find it."  --van cliburn

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 15:29:33 -0400
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subject:      tour dates

i haven't seen these dates posted yet.  i found them at:
http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epic/tourbyartist.qry?artistid=83

8/22/1996  dallas,tx            artist square
8/25/1996  las cruces, nm  new mexico state university
8/25/1996  santa fe, nm     paolo solieri
8/26/1996  mesa, az           mesa amphitheater

no, it's not a typo. 8/25/1996 is listed twice on the page.  i recommend calling the venue to verify the date.

kris

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date:         fri, 19 jul 1996 17:35:50 edt
reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      many thank you's

this is just a public thank you to those of you who have offered me advice
on creating a web page.  you all can be assured there will be quite an ex-
tensive tribute to ig on it, including a copy of a critique i wrote about
"rites of passage" for my 12th grade english class (made a 98 on it!).

you guys are great and me and my guitar (i call her frances) thank you!
btw, have a guitar lesson tomorrow morning!  woo hoo!!!  :)

just sharing my happiness,
mary  :)

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subject:      nigc-humor for democrats

>teheran (reuters, sometime in march; perhaps you've seen this) -
>
>for the past few weeks, the behind-the-doors discussion
>at many iranian newspaper and magazine publishing outfits seems to be
>revolving not around political, social and economic issues, but the
>spelling of bob dole's name instead.  it turns out that the proper spelling
>of the republican party's likely nominee, dole, is exactly the same as that
>of the word "penis" in persian.  "at first it might seem funny to some
>people, but it's creating a serious issue for us.  how can we write
>headlines using that word?" said majid fanni, a prepress specialist
>at a teheran service bureau.
>
>professor hassan khadem, a persian literature lecturer at new york
>university, added, "it's actually not a real problem.  in persian, certain
>vowels are optional. [therefore] they could write his name a couple of
>different ways to avoid the ambiguity.  but for an exact pronunciation,
>'dowl' as opposed to 'dol', well, they'd have to spell it that way." fanni
>explained "it's not easy.  in print, especially for headlines, we don't
>use [optional] vowel symbols.  because of that, his name can be read in
>that way."
>
>international organizations are quite familiar and cognizant of these types
>of issues.  general motors, for example, spends over 300,000 dollars a
>year just researching car names to make sure they are not trademarked, as
>well as being acceptable in foreign countries.
>
>ali zarkoob, a grade school teacher in western teheran, said "i'm sure
>kids will find it very funny.  the humor magazines will probably go crazy
>over it, too."  a columnist for teheran's hamshahri daily, who requested to
>remain anonymous, stated, "it's a real problem that no one wants to face.
>think about it.  what should we write if he wins?  'clinton loses presidency'?
>that's not right. 'penis wins us presidency' isn't exactly acceptable, either."

happy weekend alla y'all!
love,
karey

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subject:      another "ophelia" thank you (nigc)

wanted to send another public thank you! this one goes to tracy, who has
also been lots of help with my quest to find ophelia (my puppy) a good home.
                          thanks tracy!!!!!!!

hugs,
deb

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x-to:         karey@u.washington.edu

>date:          fri, 19 jul 1996 15:10:13 -0700
>from:  karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
>sender:        indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
<indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>subject:       nigc-humor for democrats
>
>>teheran (reuters, sometime in march; perhaps you've seen this) -
>>
>>for the past few weeks, the behind-the-doors discussion
>>at many iranian newspaper and magazine publishing outfits seems
to be
>>revolving not around political, social and economic issues, but
the
>>spelling of bob dole's name instead.  it turns out that the
proper
> spelling
>>of the republican party's likely nominee, dole, is exactly the
same as
> that
>>of the word "penis" in persian.  "at first it might seem funny to
some
>>people, but it's creating a serious issue for us.  how can we
write
>>headlines using that word?" said majid fanni, a prepress
specialist
>>at a teheran service bureau.
>>
>>professor hassan khadem, a persian literature lecturer at new
york
>>university, added, "it's actually not a real problem.  in
persian, certain
>>vowels are optional. [therefore] they could write his name a
couple of
>>different ways to avoid the ambiguity.  but for an exact
pronunciation,
>>'dowl' as opposed to 'dol', well, they'd have to spell it that
way." fanni
>>explained "it's not easy.  in print, especially for headlines, we
don't
>>use [optional] vowel symbols.  because of that, his name can be
read in
>>that way."
>>
>>international organizations are quite familiar and cognizant of
these type
>s
>>of issues.  general motors, for example, spends over 300,000
dollars a
>>year just researching car names to make sure they are not
trademarked, as
>>well as being acceptable in foreign countries.
>>
>>ali zarkoob, a grade school teacher in western teheran, said "i'm
sure
>>kids will find it very funny.  the humor magazines will probably
go crazy
>>over it, too."  a columnist for teheran's hamshahri daily, who
requested t
>o
>>remain anonymous, stated, "it's a real problem that no one wants
to face.
>>think about it.  what should we write if he wins?  'clinton loses
> presidency'?
>>that's not right. 'penis wins us presidency' isn't exactly
acceptable, eit
>her."

i'm loving it! i'll share it with all my buds at the democratic
state comittee.

smiles :)
annemarie

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subject:      re: tour dates
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thanks, kris, for posting these new dates!  i may be able to make the las
cruces show as i will be in nm at that time!  anyway, i was wondering if
anybody else has heard about this show in las cruces and if anyone knows
when tickets go on sale.  and, what ticket agency is selling the tickets!
any help would me much appreciated!  thanks!

-gina

> i haven't seen these dates posted yet.  i found them at:
> http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epic/tourbyartist.qry?artistid=83
>
> 8/22/1996  dallas,tx            artist square
> 8/25/1996  las cruces, nm  new mexico state university
> 8/25/1996  santa fe, nm     paolo solieri
> 8/26/1996  mesa, az           mesa amphitheater

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subject:      disappear fear (nigc)

just a couple of thoughts:

a recent article on disappear fear's sonia rutstein in the august edition of
out magazine and i just bought a copy of the ksca disk and it looked like the
w.h. virgin still had a hundred or so more.

michelle

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subject:      nigc-humor for college students and scariness for scuba divers

hey all!>
> these two articles came across my computer the other day and i thought i'd
> share them with you.
>
> the first is a "dave barry."  the second is something that someone sent me
> because i'm a diver.
>
> have fun! froot loops, kel
>
>  --------
> dave barry on college
>
> college is basically a bunch of rooms where you sit for roughly two
> thousand hours and try to memorize things. the two thousand hours are
> spread out over four years; you spend the rest of the time sleeping and
> trying to get dates.
>
> basically, you learn two kinds of things in college:
> 1. things you will need to know in later life (two hours).
> 2. things you will not need to know in later life (1,998 hours). these are
> the things you learn in classes whose names end in ology, osophy,  istry,
>  ics, and so on. the idea is, you memorize these things, then write them
> down in little exam books, then forget them. if you fail to forget them,
> you become a professor and have to stay in college for the rest of your
> life.
>
> it's very difficult to forget everything. for example, when i was in
> college, i had to memorize    don't ask me why    the names of three
> metaphysical poets other than john donne. i have managed to forget one of
> them, but i still remember that the other two were named vaughan and
> crashaw. sometimes, when i'm trying to remember something important like
> whether my wife told me to get tuna packed in oil or tuna packed in water,
> vaughan and crashaw just pop up in my mind, right there in the supermarket.
> it's a terrible waste of brain cells.
>
> after you've been in college for a year or so, you're supposed to choose a
> major, which is the subject you intend to memorize and forget the most
> things about. here is a very important piece of advice: be sure to choose a
> major that does not involve known facts and right answers. this means you
> must not major in mathematics, physics, biology or chemistry, because these
> subjects involve actual facts. if, for example, you major in mathematics,
> you're going to wander into class one day and the professor will say:
> "define the cosine integer of the quadrant of a rhomboid binary axis, and
> extrapolate your result to five significant vertices." if you don't come up
> with exactly the answer the professor has in mind, you fail. the same is
> true of chemistry: if you write in your exam book that carbon and hydrogen
> combine to form oak, your professor will flunk you. he wants you to come up
> with the same answer he and all the other chemists have agreed on.
>
> scientists are extremely snotty about this. so you should major in subjects
> like english, philosophy, psychology. and sociology: subjects in which
> nobody really understands what anybody else is talking about, and which
> involve virtually no actual facts. i attended classes in all these
> subjects, so i'll give you a quick overview of each:  english: this
> involves writing papers about long books you have read little snippets of
> just before class. here is a tip on how to get good grades on your english
> papers: never say anything about a book that anybody with any common sense
> would say. for example, suppose you are studying moby dick. anybody with
> any common sense would say that moby dick is a big white whale, since the
> characters in the book refer to it as a big white whale roughly eleven
> thousand times. so in your paper, you say moby dick is actually the
> republic of ireland.
>
> your professor, who is sick to death of reading papers and never liked
> moby dick anyway, will think you are enormously creative. if you can
> regularly come up with lunatic interpretations of simple stories, you
> should major in english.
>
> philosophy: basically, this involves sitting in a room and deciding there
> is no such thing as reality and then going to lunch. you should major in
> philosophy if you plan to take a lot of drugs.
>
> psychology: this involves talking about rats and dreams. psychologists are
> obsessed with rats and dreams. i once spent an entire semester training a
> rat to punch little buttons in a certain sequence, then training my
> roommate to do the same thing. the rat learned much faster. my roommate is
> now a doctor. if you like rats or dreams, and above all if you dream about
> rats, you should major in psychology.
>
> sociology: for sheer lack of intelligibility, sociology is far and away the
> number one subject. i sat through hundreds of hours of sociology courses,
> and read gobs of sociology writing, and i never once heard or read a
> coherent statement. this is because sociologists want to be considered
> scientists, so they spend most of their time translating simple, obvious
> observations into scientific sounding code. if you plan to major in
> sociology, you'll have to learn to do the same thing. for example, suppose
> you have observed that children cry when they fall down. you should write:
> methodological observation of the sociometrical behavior tendencies of
> prematurated isolates indicates that a casual relationship exists between
> groundward tropism and lachrimatory, or 'crying,' behavior forms." if you
> can keep this up for fifty or sixty pages, you will get a large government
> grant.
>
>  ------------
>
> this is a true story.......
>
> "...and you thought that you had a bad day...
>
> fire authorities in california found a corpse in a burnt out section of
> forest whilst assessing the damage done by a forest fire. the deceased male
> was dressed in a full wetsuit, complete with a dive tank, flippers and face
> mask. a post  mortem examination revealed that the person died not from
> bums but from massive internal injuries. dental records provided a positive
> identification.
>
> investigators then set about determining how a fully clad diver ended up in
> the middle of a forest tire. it was revealed that, on the day of the fire,
> the person went for a diving trip off the coast  some 20 miles away from
> the forest. the firefighters, seeking to control the fire as quickly as
> possible! called in a fleet of helicopters with very large buckets. the
> buckets were dropped into the ocean for rapid filling, then flown to the
> forest fire and emptied
>
> you guessed it!! one minute our diver was making like flipper in the
> pacific, the next he was doing a breaststroke in a fire bucket 300m h the
> air. apparently, he extinguished exactly 1.78m (5'10") of the fire.
>
>


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subject:      hey.

hi y'all,
     i'm home from school (off the list) and i hope that all is well for
everyone.  my summer is going fairly well...
     what's the word on em's b-day?  anything going on?
     i'm really excited for newport and hope to see many a lister there!
     any news updates or lyric analyzing breakthroughs are welcome!
     ok, that's pretty much all of my ig list inquiries, talk to everyone
soon...

-mandy  (yes, i am alive.)
(lwarren531@aol.com)

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 18 jul 1996

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>
>
>>date:    thu, 18 jul 1996 13:33:01 -0700
>>from:    derek keith moulaison <frisco@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
>>subject: nigc - guitar question
>>
>>hey everybody. i'm looking to buy an amp and i was hoping for some
>>suggestions beacuse i'm pretty clueless as far as amps go, and i know if i
>>ask at the music store i'll walk out with a 2 million dollar amp. i just
>>want something to plug my martin acoustic into so i can mike it like ig do
>>for gigs, and so on. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>thanks in advance,
>>
>>derek
>>
>i really don't recomend miking into a guitar amp.  it's best to have a piezo
>transducer installed in the bridge of your accoustic and plug right in. while
>this is not quite as natural or as warm as actually miking the guitars
>soundhole, but it gives you freedom of movement and greatly reduces the
>risks of feedback.  i use a lr baggs pickup in the bridge of my guild d-50
>and absolutely love it.  i installed a new endpin that houses a jack, so i
didn't
>have to drill a hole in the side of my guitar.  i run out from the jack through
>a dod bi-fet preamp and ibanez stereo  chorus pedals (the bifet gives tone
and gain control, the chorus fattens up the sound) and then either into
>a trace elliot amplifier that is intended for accoustic guitar amplification or
>(preserably) through a direct box that allows me to plug directly into the
sound board.  both methods sound good, the second can be majestic.   i
>have used martin thinline piezo pickups, but to my ear, the lr baggs pickups
>have far more warmth and body.  if you don't have the option of plugging
>directly into the sound board, just about any guitar amp will sound pretty
good as long as it's clean enough.  (ie old fenders not marshalls) peaveys
>are usually pretty good and are fairly inexpensive.
>
>dave neale
>

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subject:      i'm baaaaacccckkk (nigc)

hey y'all...
just wanted to tell yous guys "hi" ... + "i'm back". i really
missed reading this list over the past coupla' weeks... am
looking forward to your posts + ig stuff ( yay )...
peace... kim
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
     <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"there's more than one answer to these
questions pointing me in a crooked line"
------------emily saliers-------------
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subject:      coupla shows

does anyone have any info on either the show in lewiston, ny or the show in
washington d.c.? are these going to happen. figures that the two i could go
to are the ones that are mysteries!

thanks......

rob

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subject:      opening ceremonies (igc believe it or not)

well, i just had to post right now.  opening ceremonies are not over yet but
i just had the greatest idea of what would have made it even better.  of
course you are saying what could be better than a bunch of chrome pick-up
trucks and cheerleaders and a big huge "how y'all doing"  but i think i have
something.  just before i tell y'all my great idea, all i can say is that if
there is anyone who doubts that the south is the best now, i just don't
knowhow anyone can do that.  you have to love atlanta.  anyway, speaking of
atlanta, don't y'all think that the it would have been so awesome if they
would have had amy and emily sing instead of celine dion.  i must admit i am
not that big of a celine dion fan but as i watched her sing i was like "man,
i sure wished they had asked emily and amy to sing" because they are from
atlanta and everything.  that would have just been awesome.  i love the
olympics.  i must add, it brought a tear to my eye when janet evans carried
the torch.  i am a fellow swimmer and i know what it takes to get there.
something i don't have.  anyway, thanks y'all!!
sarah

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does anyone know if the girls are coming anywhere near the chicago area?
i couldn't find it on any of the webpages.

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subject:      thoust shirts hath arrived!!!!

hey all!

just a quick note to let everyone know that the t-shirts have arrived!!!!
3 huge boxes came yesterday...and i spent the whole evening stuffing
envelopes!  all the orders that do not have any xxl's in them are ready for
shipping!  the xxl's will arrive on monday probably...so i will send the
shirts out on tuesday or wed.... putting them in your grubby hands  by the
end of this week!  hooray!  might i add that they look awesome!!!!
just a  quickie update...i will let you know for sure when i send them.
take care
rob

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subject:      nigc gay rights

nigc, i'd just like to share this news (which made me so mad) with those of you
who may be concerned :

july 12th straits times : "singapore's cyberspace will be regulated from monday
under a new licensing scheme that aims... to set 'minimal' standards... to safeguard
public morals, political stability & religious harmony...... new guidelines will
require internet service & content providers to bar information that affects : --
...........
-- public morals. this category includes pornography, plus content which
encourages promiscuity or depicts gross violence, nudity, sex or horror. **items
about homosexuality, lesbianism & paedophilia are also out.**"

gayness threatens 'our' public morals & social stability ? to safeguard good old
family values - one man, one woman, & kids ? whose society ?? whose morals ??
whose family values ??

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reply-to:     andrade <andrade@az.com>
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from:         andrade <andrade@az.com>
subject:      re: opening ceremonies (igc believe it or not)
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> would have had amy and emily sing instead of celine dion.  i must admit i am
> not that big of a celine dion fan but as i watched her sing i was like "man,
> i sure wished they had asked emily and amy to sing" because they are from
> atlanta and everything.  that would have just been awesome.

i watched the opening ceremonies on the b.c. canadian 'official olympics'
channel. i could go on for about a page on how interesting it is to hear a
non-american perspective on the games but i wont go into that here.
suffice to say the canadian announcers were really proud and happy that
celene was singing (since she is canadian). i do think it's cool they had
a canadian singer perform, even though i am not a fan of her music.  but i
couldnt help but think how freaking incredible it would have been if amy,
emily, and their guitars were on the stage. i would have had shivers up
and down my spine the entire time!! just try to imagine it -- woah!
*shiver*

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subject:      song of the week???

hey all....just wondering what the sotw is... i've been away due to
unforseen probs with my server + mtu setting... <sigh> ( 527 messages
all deleted + unread.... ) can someone tell me? i love that thread +
wanna wanna wanna contribute.
peace... kim

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subject:      austin igs

well, i got up bright and early this morning (not really that early, but
before 10:00 when the tickets went on sale!) and ordered my tickets for
the indigo girls at the backyard in austin on august 20.  hope to see
other area texan ig fans at the concert.  i'll be close to the front (i
hope - first come first served, you know) and wearing my beautiful (i
haven't seen it yet but i know it will be) ig listers shirt.  wear yours
and we can meet and talk before or after the concert!  yay!

cyndi

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subject:      re: opening ceremonies (igc believe it or not)

at 12:45 am 7/20/96 -0400, sarah wrote:
anyway, speaking of
>atlanta, don't y'all think that the it would have been so awesome if they
>would have had amy and emily sing instead of celine dion.  i must admit i am
>not that big of a celine dion fan but as i watched her sing i was like "man,
>i sure wished they had asked emily and amy to sing" because they are from
>atlanta and everything.

being canadian + having followed celine dion's rising star from way on back,
i was just incredibly proud to see her on stage + singing at the acadamy awards.
( hey... it's a canadian thang, okay? ) :-) i wish i'd seen her sing at the
beginning of the olympics... nuts. anyhooo... as much of a celine adorerer(er?)
that i am... i too would have been impressed to see a+e do the olympics... of
course... i was lost on my way to the airport when *that* ship woulda' been
coming in anyways, since i didn't see the opening ceremonies... so i guess
that's
just one more "aaarrrrggggghhhh!!!" i don't have to scream at the stars (
greek on
them and all... )
peace... kim ( who is way impressed by the awsome range of celine's voice, but
prefers the music, harmonies +  incredible lyrics of the indigo girls )
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subject:      new mexico show(s)

hey y'all,

   so, supposedly the girls are playing las cruces or santa fe on the same
day?  well, it is my educated guess that there will be no las cruces
show--they will play in santa fe.  why do i think that?  well, (1) they
always play santa fe, they love playing there-after they get adjusted to
the lack of oxygen (always takes a song or two and they always comment on
it) and (2) the local radio station played "all along the watchtower" and
said they were coming to santa fe
in a couple of months,(3) las cruces doesn't have a decent place to have a
show compared to the paolo soleri ampitheater in santa fe, and (4) the
paolo soleri is on indian land and there are tons of pueblos in this area
and it is supposed to be the honor the earth tour after all.
    if ig plays las cruces--i'll eat a cockroach!  that's how sure i am!  :p

                        --sunny

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subject:      att: dan perkins

dan....i lost your email and was wondering how it went this morning?
get back with me asap...thanks....
kelly

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on sat, 20 jul 1996, sunny wrote:

>    so, supposedly the girls are playing las cruces or santa fe on the same
> day?  well, it is my educated guess that there will be no las cruces
> show--they will play in santa fe.
>     if ig plays las cruces--i'll eat a cockroach!  that's how sure i am!  :p


sunny, if ig plays las cruces (i hope--2 nm shows!), i'll gladly catch a
cockroach for your lunch:)  and for any northeners on the list, we have
the extra-large squishy roaches down here.  uh oh, i'm getting visions of
a very bad idea for a radio station ticket give-away...

anyone else know anything about southwest tour dates or ticket sale info???

peace,
donna

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subject:      attn: amy snyder!

hi, there!  sorry to waste bandwidth here, but amy, could you please e-mail
me?  i got your tapes, but i had deleted your e-mail telling me what i'm
taping.  thanks. :)

jill


jill & duffy
jefrankel@ucdavis.edu
dhjohnson@ucdavis.edu

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subject:      looking for ig show!

hi, again...

i'm looking for a show, and i'm wondering if anyone might have it.  it's
the one from morgantown, west virginia from the rites of passage tour.  i'm
trying to find it for a friend, and i know it would make him happy to have
it!  so if anyone has this show, would you e-mail me and we can either work
out a trade or i will send blanks?  thank you so much!  jill : )


jill & duffy
jefrankel@ucdavis.edu
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subject:      opening ceremonies (sigc)

i just had to throw in my two cents and say that i think "finlandia"
woulda been kinda cool for ig to do at the opening ceremonies-you know,
that peace and world harmony theme that goes along so well with the games
:)  it would have been incredible to hear them do simply, a capella, in the
middle of all the other festivities, don't you think?  well, just a
thought.....

cylinda (proud new owner of tickets to the austin concert...woo-hoo!)

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subject:      nigc: cat needs a home

hi; apologies for putting this on the list, but hey, what are lists for,
anyway?
-----------

facts: male, medium-sized, young adult, black, not-declawed, uses a litter
box with total expertise. aparrently a house cat (doing great in my small
apartment), though spent the past few weeks or more on the streets. very
skinny, but very very healthy - clean, no skin problems, no fleas, no
coughing, nothing. seems to have come from a very good home. very
affectionate, likes to be pet more than life itself. i think it's safe to
say that one could term this cat as "frisky".

locale: st. louis, missouri.

i will drive to great lengths, however, so don't let that sway you at
all. we can always work something out. :-)

i'm currently looking for a home, putting up signs to find his original
home, etc., so act while supplies last.

email if you're interested. thanks!
_
|_  a s e y

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subject:      birthday!20jul

happy birthday!!
susanh@galaxy.coat.com                  susan hetherington
        "we act empty and innocent, but we are fueled by distortions
of love at a distance"

        have a great one!!!             kel
--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy. (r.bach)
if you don't make dust, you eat it.
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast... (indigo girls)

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subject:      hello, strangers!

hello, all! =)
      ahhh, my first day off in weeks... (actually, i'm working at 10pm, but
it's _almost_ a day off...)  what do i choose to do with all of this newfound
freedom?  why, write to _you_, of course! =)  actually, i just wanted to
apologise (again) for all of the people i've been neglecting... i'm actually
progressing now as i begin to reply to messages from the 25th of june... so,
apology, apology... i'm answering all messages in the order they were
received... i still have a trade or two to fill... tracy weeks, if you're out
there, i had your stuff taped and ready to send and i found it in my car,
postage paid, but unsent.  i'll put it in the mailbox today... i am _so_
sorry! =(  if i owe anything else to anyone, please write... oh!  i'm looking
for songs with the following words in the titles, if anyone can think of
any... bird, cigarette, coffee, and strange.  (i'm making a tape and i have
to decide on a theme.)  anyhow, if anyone can help with those, it would be
appreciated. =)  okay, the end.  miss me! =}  peace, love, and a butter
biscuit, sarah

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subject:      emily's b-day

hey y'all! so has anyone made a final decision on what we're doing for
emily's birthday? i think it would be great if we call all send her a
birthday message but i know it's probably a difficult thing to do. the time
is almost upon us.....

jendy

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subject:      norfolk show...

hello, incredible listees!  i just found out that i'm going to the norfolk
show on aug.
17th, and i'm excited beyond words--this is my first ig show. =)  okay, i'll
get to the
point--is anyone booting the norfolk show (is anyone even _going_ to the
norfolk show?!)?  i would love to boot it to have a copy for myself and to
share with y'all, but i'm afraid i'll screw it up as i've never booted
anything before...also, does anyone know how tight the security is at the
boathouse?  i mean, do people search you for recording devices?  when i went
to eddie's attic to see michelle malone, no one seemed to care about things
like that...

peace, love, and concerts,
ponygirl

p.s.  the countdown is on for emily's b-day!  two more days! =)

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subject:      get out the map lyrics

did anyone ever post the lyrics to get out the map? i"ve got it stuck in
my head and would at least like to be singing the right words...

thanks... amy

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subject:      question

hi. i was listening to my new tape of the 11/87 chapel hill show, which
is largely songs from sf that a+e refer to as their newest album. but
they also talk about their "first album", and i was wondering which one
they meant. i have all the major label releases and several of the boots
so i was a little confused. thanks, if anyone can help...

amy

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subject:      re: hampton beach show (tables?)

well i'm in shock!  i go down to atlanta for a few days, do the rdr thing,
the emory thing, and of course 5-points.  then i get back to good old nh
and there's a concert!  and a small venue at that - 2 days in a row!  so i
have tickets for me and my sister and probably my dad (don't worry he's a
fan and it's the only way i'm going since they probably won't round up my
17.5 years).  anyway, i was wondering if anything had come about regarding
the table situation.  i'm definitely interested if a reservation is
possible.  also, i never heard what time the show is at or if there's an
opener.  any recommendation on how far in advance to get there?  i'm about
an hour away if i can be of any assistance and should be able to head out
by 3 or 4 that day.  anyway, that's my situation so if anything comes about
please post or let me know.  thanks in advance and also a big thank you for
the list 'cause i would have never found out about the show without it.
less than a month! :)
thanks again!
-sarah

sarah wardrop

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subject:      re: opening ceremonies (igc believe it or not)

in a message dated 96-07-20 11:30:13 edt,kristina writes:

>but i
>couldnt help but think how freaking incredible it would have been if amy,
>emily, and their guitars were on the stage. i would have had shivers up
>and down my spine the entire time!! just try to imagine it -- woah!
>*shiver*

ya know.............

   k.d. lang played the *closing* ceremony of the calgary olympics in '87
(86?)...
  (back in the 'recline' days ;)

another thing......i heard an interview w/ micky hart on npr 'dis mornin'
and found out that joan baez (!!!!!!) was one of the voices in the very
opening
of the olympic ceremony last night.
(chillsville' baybee...)

binky (i was all veklemft and stuff, man.)

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subject:      indigo girls,  please foward to emily if possible

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to emily
congrats on your success!
just a little note from an ex significant other from your days at tulane.
remember the free gigs at the penny post, joust at the boot, meeting at
the tilden library, rugby, clove cigarettes, and the loft at monroe.  if
you get this e-mail me.  it would be interesting to talk about old times
and what paths our lives have left.
doug hershkowitz
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<a name = "a"><h3>a</h3></a>
<b>acoustic guitar</b><p>

musical instrument much beloved of amy and emily and most of their fans, and
also a magazine which ran a feature on them in 1991, entitled <a href = "power2.html">"power of two"</a>
(which had nothing to do with the swamp ophelia song).   emily's song "hammer
and a nail" (nis) was published along with the article.<p>

<b>aiken, caroline</b><p>

long island, ny-born, atlanta based folk and blues singer.   emily co-wrote her song "white house blues", off the album live at the attic, on which both the indigo girls sing, and emily plays guitar.<p>

<a name = "annamae"></a>
<b>anna mae</b><p>

refers to anna mae pictou aquash, an activist with the american indian
movement (aim) who was found murdered on the pine ridge reservation in south
dakota in february 1975.   her case was reopened in 1994 and investigators are
looking at a number of high-ranking aim members, but aim members claim that
this is another effort by the fbi to neutralise the organisation.<p>

<b>aronoff, kenny</b><p>

drummer who played on several tracks off nomads ... and on joking (rop).   has
also played with john cougar mellencamp, richard thompson and mary chapin carpenter.<p>

<a name = "b"><h3>b</h3></a>
<b>b-band, the</b><p>

name under which amy and emily gave an early gig.   a bootleg of that gig, called tuesday's children, is in circulation.<p>

<b>baez, joan</b><p>

folk singer prominent in greenwich village in 1960s along with bob dylan and
joni mitchell.   covered the indigo girls' "welcome me" on request in sarajevo
and subsequently performed it at the bottom line in 1995, and it appeared
on her live album "ring them bells".   amy and emily play and sing on bob
dylan's cover of "don't think twice, it's alright" on the same album.<p>

<b>band de soleil</b>  <i>see <a href = "#malone">malone, michelle</a>.</i><p>

<b>beautyway chant</b><p>

navajo hymn which emily sings at the end of "jonas and ezekiel" (rop, 1200c).
according to sources on the ig mailing list, the chant is sacred and should
not be used other than in prayer.<p>

<b><a name = "bfe">big fish ensemble</a></b><p>

atlanta band featuring michael lorant and sheila doyle.   lorant has played on all ig's albums since nomads and sheila doyle has played on so and 1200c.   the band participated in the jesus christ
superstar shows (which see).<p>

<b>bloom, luka</b><p>

irish singer-songwriter, younger brother of christy moore.   sang backing
vocals on closer to fine (ig).   (pseudonym reputedly taken from suzanne vega
song luka (off solitude standing)!)<p>

<b>boys on the side</b><p>

film directed by herbert ross in which amy and emily make an appearance as a backing
group behind a singer played by whoopi goldberg.   the group also performed
lou reed's "walk on the wild side" with goldberg but this was cut out.   the soundtrack
features "power of two".<p>

<b>budgie</b><p>

drummer with siouxsie and the banshees.   played on three hits, jonas and
ezekial, virginia woolf and chickenman (rop).<p>

<a name = "c"><h3>c</h3></a>
<b>carpenter, mary-chapin</b><p>

country-folk singer from washington, dc, who sang on "hammer and a nail" and
"southland in the springtime" (nis).   amy and emily sing backing vocals on
"the hard way" and "walking through fire" on carpenter's album "come on come on"
(1992).   other albums:  hometown girl (1987), state of the heart (1989),
shooting straight in the dark (1990), stones in the road (1994).   has also
performed with amy and emily and joan baez (link) in the group four voices.<p>

<b>carter, russel</b><p>

the indigo girls' manager, based in decatur, ga.   on first hearing the igs
told them their songs were immature and that they wouldn't get anywhere.   has
obviously had second thoughts since then ...<p>

<b>center stage</b><p>

as well as the song off the indigo girls album, also the name of a concert hall
in atlanta.<p>

<b>chickenman</b><p>

an old man who lives by the side of a highway in texas.   amy met
him on the way to a gig in 1991 (?) while emily slept in the car.
see amy's <a href = "amysoc.html">stream of consciousness</a> for the whole story.<p>

<a name = "colvin"></a>
<b>colvin, shawn</b><p>

female singer-songwriter from south dakota, much admired by emily.   has not
appeared on any of their albums, but features on the live promo album <a href = "#shades">shades of indigo</a>
(which see).   albums include steady on (1989), fat city (1993), the covers
album cover girl (1994) and the independently-released live '88 (1995).<p>

<a name = "d"><h3>d</h3></a>
<a name = "daemon"><b>daemon records</b></a><p>

an independent label run by amy.   artists have included the ellen james society
and their successors viva la diva;  james hall (and former band mary my hope),
michelle malone and band de soleil, and gerard mchugh.   (note:  do not confuse
with british independent label demon, to whom elvis costello was signed.)<p>

<b>deadicated</b><p>

tribute album to the grateful dead, to which ig contribute a cover of "uncle
john's band".   (also see <a href = "#indicated">indicated</a>.)<p>

<b>di franco, ani</b><p>

folk singer much known for her fiercely independent
business style (ie running her own label, righteous babe records, on which
only one other artist, utah phillips, has released an album), assertive lyrics
and delivery and increasingly adventurous instrumentation, partly aided by
percussionist andy stochansky.   albums:  ani di franco (1990), not so soft
(1991), imperfectly (1992), like i said (compilation, 1992), puddle dive
(1993), out of range (1994), not a pretty girl (1995), and dilate (1996) of
which amy wrote <a href = "anireview.html">this review</a> in the advocate
gay magazine.<p>

<a name = "dorsey"><b>dorsey, gail ann</b></a><p>

atlanta artist who accompanied the indigo girls on several of their tours since
releasing swamp ophelia.   sang the chorus on midnight train to georgia (1200c)
and also played bass on several songs on the tours, but not on the albums.
has also accompanied david bowie on his tours in late 1995, singing the part
of freddie mercury on under pressure.   released her own album <i>the corporate world</i>
in the mid-80s.<p>

<b>dykes, jan</b>  <i>see <a href = "#vld">viva la diva</a> and <a href = "#ellen">ellen james society</a></i><p>

<b>dylan, bob</b><p>

folk singer-songwriter, author of all along the watchtower (botby) and tangled up in blue (1200c).    the indigo girls also took part in a tribute album to him released on sister ruby records.   own albums include:  the times they are a'changin', highway


61 revisited, nashville skyline, planet waves, blood on the tracks, desire, street legal and oh mercy.<p>

<a name = "e"><h3>e</h3></a>
<b><a name = "ellen">ellen james society</a></b><p>

atlanta band which broke up in 1993.   featured guitarist/singers chris mcguire
and cooper seay, bassist jan dykes (who was replaced by brian lilje), and
drummer scott bland.   mcguire, seay, lilje and bland co-wrote (with amy) and
appeared on both the live and the studio versions of 1-2-3 (on botby and nis
respectively), and on live versions of tried to be true and kid fears (the latter
with lilje replaced by sara lee).   seay, dykes and bland later reappeared in
viva la diva, and after a period of solo work, chris mcguire formed the band
mary fortune express.<p>

<b>environmental racism</b><p>

term used to describe the destruction of native american reservations for
mineral and energy-related purposes.   see <a href = "#honor">honor the earth</a>.<p>

<a name = "f"><h3>f</h3></a>
<b>ferron</b><p>

female singer-songwriter from western canada (who now lives in washington state).
ig covered her song it won't take long on pro-abortion benefit album rock for choice.   amy
is quoted as saying she thought she'd never write another song after hearing
her play live.   has made 8 albums including testimony, shadows on a dime,
the instrumental resting with the question, driver and the recently-remade
phantom center, featuring amy and emily singing and emily playing guitar on
stand up, and also tori amos.   <b><a href = "http://ferronweb.com/">link to ferronweb</a></b><p>

<b>4.5</b><p>

<a href = "#uk">uk</a>-only compilation hastily and shoddily thrown together in 1995 to capitalise
on the indigo girls' appearances at the glastonbury festival.   accompanied by
re-release of closer to fine as a single, but this was, for reasons known only
to god and epic records, withdrawn before it got a chance to be yet another ig
flop.   the name refers to amy, emily, sara lee and jerry marotta;  the half
is <a href = "#dorsey">gail ann dorsey</a> who had accompanied them on
their previous uk tour (from
which they indended to derive some material).   4.5 reached position 45 in
the charts.<p>

<a name = "g"><h3>g</h3></a>
<b>garfinkle, sandy</b><p>

harmonica player from pittsburgh, pa.   played on i don't wanna know and land
of canaan (sf), nashville (rop) and chickenman (rop, 1200c).<p>

<b>germano, lisa</b><p>

singer-songwriter and musician, formerly a violinist in john mellencamp's band
and in simple minds (esp. street fighting years).   played violin on rites of
passage;  played violin, mandolin and penny-whistle on swamp ophelia.   own
albums:  happiness (1993) and geek the girl (1994).   the latter featured a
song about a man stalking her called "a psychopath";  the man concerned has
left her alone ever since.<p>

<b>griffith, nanci</b><p>

country-folk singer from austin, tx.   amy and emily have sung on wimoweh, a
traditional south african song, off other voices, other rooms, and on these
days in an open book, off flyer.   notable albums:  last of the true believers
(1986), lone star state of mind (1987), one fair summer evening (1988), storms
(1989), other voices, other rooms (1993).<p>

<a name = "h"><h3>h</h3></a>
<b>hall, james</b><p>

atlanta artist, formerly signed to <a href = "#daemon">daemon records</a>.   played trumpet on fugitive
and touch me fall (sf).   album:  my love, sex and spirit, released on
endangered in 1994, although it had been available on daemon by his band mary
my hope for about 2 years before.<p>

<b>hall, kristin</b><p>

former guitar technician for a & e, who has released three cds of her own
(real life stuff, fact & fiction and be careful what you wish for).   has a
backing band called hell 'n ready (not by any chance a pun on 70s singer helen
reddy?).
formerly on amy's <a href = "#daemon">daemon records</a> label, now on high street, also home to john gorka.
be careful ... produced by jerry marotta.<p>

<b>"helen off the road-side"</b><p>

a town in georgia, mentioned in the line from southland in the springtime
(nis).<p>

<b>high horse</b><p>

a song by emily which appeared on the original indie release of "strange
fire".   it was left off the epic re-release because emily hates the song,
believing it to be too forced.<p>

<b>holsapple, peter</b><p>

former member of the dbs.   played on hammer and a nail, watershed and pushing
the needle too far (nis).<p>

<b><a name = "honor">honor the earth</a></b><p>

the name amy and emily gave to the tour of native american reservations in
early 1995.   the live version of jonas and ezekiel was taken from one of the
shows on a hopi reservation.<p>

<b>hothouse flowers</b><p>

irish folk-rock band who appeared on the "indigo girls" album.   liam o'maonlai
played bodhran on closer to fine and hammond organ on secure yourself;  fiachna
obraonáin played tin whistle on ctf and peter o'toole plays mandolin on ctf and
secure yourself.<p>

<b>huh! magazine</b><p>

magazine for which amy wrote an <a href = "http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood/95xxxx.html">article</a> about the <a href = "#honor">honor the earth tour</a>.<p>

<a name = "i"><h3>i</h3></a>
<b>if you live like that</b><p>

one of very few collaborations between amy and emily which has not been played
for a <i>very</i> long time - the two describe it as "real cliched and stiff".
on another occasion amy said "we stole all these bob dylan lyrics ... we were
even going to call it "blood on the tracks" at one point!"<p>

<b>i'll give you my skin</b><p>

a somewhat more successful amy / emily collaboration (with lyrics by <a href = "#rem">rem</a>'s
michael stipe).   appeared on peta benefit album "tame yourself".<p>

<b>indicated</b><p>

a set of two tapes (with a third being made) featuring fans singing ig songs.   participants are mostly
mailing-list members.   so-called because of grateful dead tribute <a href = "glossary.html">deadicated</a><p>

<b><i><a href = "indicated.html">click here for track listing</a></i></b><p>

<a name = "igep"><b>indigo girls ep</b></a><p>

not to be confused with the indigo girls album, this was released in 1986, and
features the songs land of canaan, lifeblood, history of us, never stop, cold as ice
and the sibelius hymn finlandia.   copies are today very rare and probably highly expensive considering that strange fire recently sold at <a href = "#rainyday">rainy day records</a> for $400.<p>

<b>indigo records</b><p>

the name of the label on which amy and emily released some early records
(including the indigo girls ep and strange fire), on limited runs due to
limited budgets.   not the same indigo records as the blues re-issue label.
also see <a href = "#daemon">daemon records</a>.<p>

<a name = "j"><h3>j</h3></a>
<b>jesus christ superstar - a resurrection</b><p>

a performance of the andrew lloyd webber / tim rice musical initiated by amy
and michael lorant (see <a href = "#bfe">big fish ensemble</a>) and amy featuring several atlanta artists
including amy and emily and the bfe.   lorant plays judas, who he believes to
be the true focus of the musical and a much more complex character than jesus,
who is played by amy.   emily plays mary magdalene and plays guitar on the
reprise of "everything's alright".   the proceeds went to a gun-control
organisation, and many who heard it said it was better than the original
recorded version!<p>

<b>jennings, john</b><p>

musician and producer best known for his work with <a href = "#mcc">mary chapin carpenter</a>.
played guitar on several tracks off nis and rop.<p>

<a name = "k"><h3>k</h3></a>
<b>keane, john</b><p>

producer from athens, ga who owns studio.   has worked with rem, especially
on demos (nearly all of which he has produced).   produced strange fire and
played guitar on kid fears, land of canaan and center stage (ig), and shaker
on tried to be true (ig).   also sang backing vocals on you left it up to me
(sf).<p>

<a name = "l"><h3>l</h3></a>
<b>leavin' ain't fair</b><p>

a song which appeared on early indigo girls bootlegs (including tuesday's children), which reappeared as
"back together again" on 1200 curfews.  <p>

<b>lee, sara</b><p>

amy and emily's regular bassist.   has played on all their albums since nomads.
has also played with the gang of four, robyn hitchcock and the b-52s including
their major hit, "love shack".<p>

<b>litt, scott</b><p>

producer best known for his work for <a href = "#rem">rem</a>.   produced indigo girls and nomads *
indians * saints.   has also co-produced nirvana's "unplugged".<p>

<b>lunny, donal</b><p>

irish musician, formerly of planxty.   played on three hits, jonas and ezekial,
let it be me and cedar tree (rop).   has also played with christy moore and
mary black.<p>

<a name = "m"><h3>m</h3></a>
<b><a name = "malone">malone, michelle</a></b><p>

atlanta singer-songwriter, currently performing with blues band band de soleil,
which is signed to amy's label <a href = "#daemon">daemon</a>.   co-wrote i don't wanna know (sf, 1200c) with amy;  sang on both renditions,
and played mandolin on the 1200c version.   also sang on world falls (nis) and
down by the river (1200c).   ig appear on some versions of band de soleil's album
redemption dream (on daemon), on a live cover of <a href = "#daemon">neil young</a>'s cortez the killer.<p>

<b>marotta, jerry</b><p>

drummer and percussionist who is now (along with sara lee, jane scarpantoni
and scarlet rivera) part of ig's regular touring band.   has also played with
peter gabriel (on his second, third and fourth (aka security) albums), rory
block (ain't i a woman), suzanne vega (99.9f°) and tears for fears.<p>

<b>mary fortune express</b><p>

see chris mcguire below.<p>

<b>mcguire, chris</b><p>

female singer-songwriter and former member of the <a href = "#ellen">ellen james society</a>.   along
with band-mates cooper seay, brian lilje and scott bland, co-wrote 1-2-3 (nis)
with amy and played on that track;  also played on 1-2-3, tried to be true and
kid fears (botby).   currently playing with mary fortune express who have
recently released a new album on daemon records.<p>

<b>mchugh, gerard</b><p>

atlanta-based folk singer who wrote thin line (1200c), and is signed to amy's
daemon label.   albums:  yard sale, more than i.<p>

<b>meyer, edgar</b><p>

double-bass player who played on love will come to you and chickenman (rop).
appears on mary-chapin carpenter's album come on, come on and on nanci
griffith's other voices, other rooms;  best known for his work with russ
barenberg and jerry douglas in the folk / bluegrass trio jerry douglas, russ
barenberg and edgar meyer (imaginative, huh?).<p>

<b>mitchell, joni</b><p>

canadian folk-turned-jazz singer, author of river (1200c).   noted by emily,
along with bob dylan, as her earliest influence (although mitchell,
interviewed in mojo in late 1994, said, "i've had girls come up to me and
tell me how influenced they are by me and then they get up and play and they
sound like the indigo girls!").   notable albums:  ladies of the canyon
(1970), blue (1971), court and spark (1974), hejira (1976), don juan's
reckless daughter (1977), shadows and light (1980), night ride home (1991).<p>

<b>mtv unplugged</b><p>

the indigo girls appeared on the show in the very early days along with michelle
shocked and jules shear.   songs played:  shocked's yamboree queen and on the greener side,
world falls, closer to fine, t for texas and the water is wide.   in the middle of
t for texas, jules shear sang one note for 18 seconds - everyone, including shocked,
stood aghast.   shear also appeared on crowded house's unplugged a few weeks
later.<p>

<a name = "n"><h3>n</h3></a>
<b>nashville</b><p>

alleged capital of country music, also with a huge bible production industry to
accommodate its impressive record of religious groups.   not a particularly
tolerant place, hence the ig song.   however, amy says that much of what she
says about nashville could be said about atlanta too.   (amy had been studying
at vanderbilt university in nashville, which was, in amy's words, "not exactly a
hotbed of liberalism".)<p>

<b>new orleans jazz festival</b><p>

the first (and one of three) dates the girls are playing in 1996, at which
<a href = "nophotos.html">these photos</a> were taken.   (more are to follow.)
<p>

songs played include: thin line,
wood song, this train revised, power of two, don't give that girl a gun (a new
amy song), least complicated, nashville, get out the map (a new emily song,
played solo with a banjo), chiapas bound (a new amy song), closer to fine,
shame on you, crazy game, tried to be true and galileo.   they then played
don't think twice, it's all right with joan baez and her son, wild horses with
baez and son and michelle malone, and finally finlandia.   michael lorant
played drums, and shiela doyle, also from the <a href = "#bfe">big fish ensemble</a>, was also there.<p>

<a name = "o"><h3>o</h3></a>
<a name = "p"><h3>p</h3></a>
<b>peltier, leonard</b><p>

native american rights activist who was jailed for murder in the 1970s after
a protest at wounded knee turned violent.   many people believe he is innocent
and was framed by the police.<p>

<b>peta (people for ethical treatment of animals)</b><p>

us animal rights charity.   ig & michael stipe contributed the song "i'll give
you my skin", which they co-wrote, to benefit album "tame yourself".<p>

<b>philadelphia</b><p>

ig appeared on the soundtrack to this film with a cover of crazy horse's "i
don't wanna talk about it".   also included tracks by <a href = "#young">neil young</a>, bruce
springsteen and peter gabriel.<p>

<a name = "r"><h3>r</h3></a>
<a name = "rainyday"></a>
<b><a href = "http://www.hidwater.com/rdr/">rainy day records</a></b><p>

atlanta-based record store which is probably the best source for early indigo girls material, in particular the <a href = "#igep">indigo girls ep</a> and the original <a href = "#strangefire">strange fire</a>.   if you were thinking
of rushing down there to buy a copy, don't forget to get $400 out of the bank first.   they also promote other atlanta artists, in particular gerard mchugh, and are the main distributor of records released by the daemon label.<p>

<a name = "rem"><b>r.e.m.</b></a><p>

formerly little-known athens, ga, band of losing my religion fame.   ig
supported them on the atlanta dates of their green world tour.   michael stipe
sang guest vocals on kid fears (ig);  the rest of the band played on tried to
be true (ig);  peter buck played dulcimer on world falls (nis).<p>

<b>rivera, scarlet</b><p>

violinist, a member of amy and emily's regular touring band along with sara
lee, jerry marotta and jane scarpantoni.   played on several songs on 1200c.
has also played with bob dylan - can be heard on the song hurricane, off
desire (1975).<p>

<b>rocket, the</b><p>

us magazine which has published an <a href = "rocket.html">utterly gorgeous picture of amy and emily</a>
...<p>

<a name = "s"><h3>s</h3></a>
<b>saliers, don</b><p>

emily's dad.   professor of theology at emory university, atlanta, and also a
methodist minister.   co-edited, with john meyendorff and louis dupré a book
called "christian spirituality, post-reformation and modern".<p>

<b>scarpantoni, jane</b><p>

cellist who played on swamp ophelia and 1200 curfews;  along with jerry marotta,
sara lee and violinist scarlet rivera, a regular member of ig's touring band.
has also played with rem (green) and kristin hersh & throwing muses (hips and
makers, university).<p>

<b>sejarez</b><p>

not a spanish poet, but according to sources on the list and the newsgroup,
a man who appeared in one of amy's dreams.<p>

<a name = "shades"><b>shades of indigo</b></a><p>

live promo album featuring the indigo girls performing, and talking to folk-singer
<a href = "#colvin">shawn colvin</a>.<p>

<b>southern voice (sovo)</b><p>

atlanta-based gay newspaper to which amy wrote a letter in 1994 criticising
their coverage of partly-gay bands such as the ellen james society and of the
opening of emily and sue owens's shop, the common pond.   <a href = "http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood/articles/940830.html">to the article ...</a><p>

<b>stanford, frank</b><p>

southern poet, author of "the light the dead see".   committed suicide in the
early 1980s with three bullets to the heart, hence the line in "three hits",
which is about and dedicated to him.<p>

<a name = "strangefire"><b>strange fire</b></a><p>

so far the only ig album to be released independently (and also the only one so far with a title track) - was released in 1987 on the indigos' own indigo records label, and a "revised" version was released on epic in 1990.   copies of the original now sel


l for around $400 at <a href = "#rainyday">rainy day records</a>.<p>

<b>swamp ophelia</b><p>

amy believes that this is a nickname for a kind of plant, but does not know
which.<p>

<a name = "t"><h3>t</h3></a>
<b>tench, benmont</b><p>

keyboard-player with tom petty's heartbreakers, and much-respected sessioneer.
played on hammer and a nail (nis) and joking (rop).<p>

<b>this train</b><p>

before amy ray's revision, this was a gospel tune recorded by woody guthrie
and blues and gospel singer sister rosetta tharpe among others.<p>

<pre>
this train is bound for glory, this train,
this train is bound for glory, this train,
this train is bound for glory,
don't ride nothin' but the righteous an' the holy
this train is bound for glory, this train,

this train don't carry no gamblers, this train,
this train don't carry no gamblers, this train,
this train don't carry no gamblers
no hypocrites, no midnight ramblers,
this train is bound for glory, this train.

this train is built for speed now, this train,
this train is built for speed now, this train,
this train is built for speed
fastest train you ever did see,
this train is bound for glory, this train.

this train don't carry no liars, this train,
this train don't carry no liars, this train,
this train don't carry no liars,
no hypocrites and no high flyers,
this train is bound for glory, this  train.

this train don't pay no transportation, this train,
this train don't pay no transportation, this train,
this train don't pay no transportation
no jim crow and no discrimination,
this train is bound for glory, this train.

this train don't carry no rustlers, this train,
this train don't carry no rustlers, this train,
this train don't carry no rustlers
sidestreet walkers, two-bit hustlers,
this train is bound for glory, this train.
</pre><p>

<b>thompson, danny</b><p>

english double-bassist, formerly of the pentangle.   played on reunion, power
of two, the wood song and mystery (so).   well-known as a session player, but
regularly tours with ex-fairport convention guitarist/songwriter richard thompson (no
relation).<p>

<a name = "u"><h3>u</h3></a>

<a name = "uk"><b>the uk</b></a><p>

the country where i live, where nobody has heard of the indigo girls and which
is home to a number of ig marketing flops.   they had a near-hit in 1989 with
closer to fine;  their two gigs at the forum club in 1993 were sold out all
right, but the audience was nearly all american ("is anybody here actually from
england?"  amy asked);  in 1994 swamp ophelia's release was greeted with critical
acclaim but little sales (the singles, although a list member tells me that
they did appear, were nowhere to be seen, in my home town at any rate) although the resulting gigs were usually sold out;
in 1995 they appeared at glastonbury and closer to fine was going to be
re-released, but yanked a couple of days before;  and the "best of" album released at the
same time, "4.5" reached only 45 in the charts.<p>

<a name = "v"><h3>v</h3></a>
<a name = "vld"><b>viva la diva</b></a><p>

atlanta band signed to the texan label moksha.   bassist jan dykes played on touch
me fall and this train revised (sf).   led by cooper seay (formerly of the
<a href = "#ellen">ellen james society</a>) who also played guitar on jonas and ezekial (rop).<p>

<b>vogt, dede</b><p>

atlanta artist.   played bass on several tracks off "indigo girls", mandolin
on i don't wanna know and you left it up to me (sf) and sang backing vocals
on closer to fine (1200c).<p>

<a name = "w"><h3>w</h3></a>
<b>wonderstuff, the</b><p>

british indie rock band famous for songs "the size of a cow" and "welcome to the cheap seats".   covered the ig song closer to fine on the full of life b-side.   own albums:  the eight-legged groove machine (?), hup (?), never loved elvis (1991) and const


ruction for the modern idiot (1993).   split up 1994 after last gig at festival in brighton, and fragmented into vent (miles hunt's band) and weknowwhereyoulive (the rest).<p>

<b>woolf, virginia</b><p>

english writer to whom emily wrote a homage (on rop).   famous works include
jacob's room (1922), mrs dalloway (1925), to the lighthouse (1927), orlando
(1928), the feminist essay a room of one's own (1929), the waves (1931), and
the posthumously-published between the acts (1941).<p>

<b>wounded knee</b><p>

a place in south dakota (?) which was the site of a massacre of sioux indians
in 1890.   also the home to the pine ridge reservation which was the site of a
bloody confrontation between activists from the american indian movement, the
fbi and the tribal goon suqad, resulting in the imprisonment of leonard
peltier.   the song bury my heart at wounded knee is also the title of a book
about the indian wars by dee brown.   also see
<a href = "#annamae">anna mae</a>.<p>

<a name = "x"><h3>x</h3></a>
<a name = "y"><h3>y</h3></a>
<b><a name = "young">young, neil</a></b><p>

canadian singer-songwriter who veers between folk-rock and grungy heavy rock.
the indigo girls supported him on his tours in 1989-90, and have since played
at his bridge school benefit concerts, in aid of his school for children with
cerebral palsy (such as his son, ben young).   also the author of down by the
river (1200c) and cortez the killer, which ig performed in the middle of
touch me fall on several songs on the so tour, and perform with <a href = "#malone">michelle
malone</a>'s band de soleil on some editions of redemption dream.

<a name = "z"><h3>z</h3></a>
<hr>
<a href = "newport4_fullsize.jpg"><img src = "new4.jpg" align=right></img></a>
<a href = "../folksits.html"> <h3>other useful indigo sites</h3></a><p>

<h3>mailing list info</h3><p>

the indigo girls mailing list's address is:<p>

indigo-girls@netspace.org<p>

to subscribe to it, send e-mail to<p>

listserv@netspace.org<p>

with the message:<p>

subscribe indigo-girls (followed by your name, without brackets).<p>

<hr>

<h3>thank you to ... </h3><p>

all the list folks who inadvertently contributed to the page - especially
amy, lorindigo, neil, margaret, teri and moj.   thanks to dianne seibert for
the <a href = "amysoc.html">chickenman stream-of-consciousness</a>, and martha for the information on the
beautyway hymn.<p>

thanks to carolyn and ron mcbay also for their excellent web-pages (ron's on
billy bragg, and carolyn's <a href = "http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood">(lifeblood)</a> on the indigos).<p>

the words to <i>this train</i> are taken from the digital tradition web
site.<p>

lastly thanks to amy, emily and billy for their wonderful music.<p>

all contributions welcome!   mail me at <a href = "mailto:mts5@aber.ac.uk">mts5@aber.ac.uk</a> or <a href = "mailto:indigojo@freenet.hut.fi">indigojo@freenet.hut.fi</a>.<p>

<font size=2><i>i am currently away from university and so will not be able to maintain
this page until late september.   so if you see any errors or glaring omissions, feel
free to email me, but it won't get fixed until then!</i><font size=2><p>

(kirsti:  http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucaikjr/home.html)

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date:         sat, 20 jul 1996 22:44:11 -0500
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subject:      amy and emily at the games

hey y'all-

just the idea of a and e singing at the games, in harmony, acapella, was
enough to make me long for the gods to replay friday's opening ceremonies
our way.....

gives me happy cold chills just thinking of it.


later dudes-

karrie


                  "feelin' kinda loose, been feelin' kinda mean,
                   been feelin' kinda wild since i turned 17....."
                                    -melissa etheridge

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date:         sat, 20 jul 1996 23:19:54 -0400
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      e b-day mail

k, looks like i'll handle sending out em's b-day wishes from y'all. does
anyone know if it would be worth a shot to send it to the igfan email
address, or should i print everything out in a neat little booklet thingy
and snail mail it? suggestions are _very_ welcome!
tiff

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subject:      hey....

has anybody else noticed that during the bridge section of "cedar tree" on
the rites of passage cd the guitar picks out the melody from beethoven's "ode
to joy"?  just a thought from a laid off music teacher during summer
break.....

:-)

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