lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-07d

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date:         sat, 20 jul 1996 22:32:54 -0600
reply-to:     johnsonm@ziavms.enmu.edu
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         johnsonm@ziavms.enmu.edu
subject:      re: new mexico show (s)

hey there, i am fairly new to list but in ref to the girls coming to new mexico
if anyone has any idea when they will be coming id love to know.
i will go for sure.

i wont eat a cockroach but i do agree that the chances of them going to
las cruces is slim, but if they go thats just one more chance for me to see
them

waiting in anticipation

margaret

hey, i can't wait for the rob & deb shirt to arrive, but in the
meantime, the nff shirt that rena put together arrived, and it is
quite the item. i really like it lots! many thanks to her for the
effort! it looks great, and i know lots of folks will be jealous!
might even wear it to bumbershoot.....

ann

i was at the diner with a few of my gals drinking coffee and
chatting when i had devastating experience. while i was pouring
abundant amounts of sugar into my coffee, i realized the muzak song
blasting from the speakers was none other than least complicated.
now i truly believe that ig music should get more airplay, but this
was not the forum i would hope it to be showcased in. i'm sure i am
not the only one to have this such experience but, i once heard
talking helps cope with traumatic happenings.

smiles and muzak,
annemarie

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"you wish upon a star, that turns into a plane."
"life is too short to listen to bad music."
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first of all, i am back from my vacation and i had a great time.  the black hills
of south dakota are truly beautiful.  this means that all of the capricorns
out there can feel free to e-mail me regarding the atlanta pride boot.
now for the sharing part, i am so excited.  i came home to lots of great mail,
including boots and a birthday package from my dad.  usually he sends a card
and money, but this year there was a package.  inside the box was a great
present . . .a matted and framed picture of amy and emily playing in eugene
in 1993.  it is so cool.  i am impressed with my dad's gift choice this year and
am excited to hang it by my desk.  thanks for letting me share!
cami

annemarie farrell wrote:
>
> i was at the diner with a few of my gals drinking coffee and
> chatting when i had devastating experience.i realized the muzak song
> blasting from the speakers was none other than least complicated.
>
> ---just so you know annemarie, you are not alone in your horrific experiencei, too have been traumitized by the muzak version of least complicated--i work
at an office supply store that plays that nonsense every day and i've heard
more than once--oh, the agony---the indigo girls deserve more than this--it
is an atrocity---but, on a lighter note--there is a great radio station in st.
louis called the river and they play quite a few indigo girls songs--i was
amazed as i was listening to the radio late one night to hear closer to fine
over the airways--it's things like theses that keep me sane--tricia

by the way--does anyone have any info yet on whether they're planning on
playing st. louis or chicago?-any help would be appreciated--:)
>
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our goddess of things shared with us information that makes her sound
*suspiciously* like a computer geek when she said:
>
>hey all....just wondering what the sotw is... i've been away due to
>unforseen probs with my server + mtu setting... <sigh> ( 527 messages
>all deleted + unread.... ) can someone tell me? i love that thread +
>wanna wanna wanna contribute.

        glaring to my west and ever-so-slightly north (mtu...?  my touchy
computer"), i shall  check my information (as the official lackey to the
goddess) and determine that... <drum role>... it appears that ... uh-oh...
kim - this'll crack you up... the next scheduled song is dead man's
hill!!!!!  bahahahahahahaahaha!!! dare we dredge fred mann up again??? (1200
ig-l voices can be heard screaming "noooooo!")

wondering if soon many will wish kim and tracy's mtu's are askew.....
tracy
~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^returning to my mountains!!!
countdown - approx 5 weeks!

"all those voices,they whisper through my walls
        they talk of falling fast,  they say i'm losing it all...
        they say i'm running blind to a love of my own
but i'll be walking proud, i'm saving what i still own..."
        --- amy ray, "nashville"

>the time is almost upon us.....

um...to return to the flock we must keep? <grin> sorry...
emily day is tomorrow! =) yay!

1995 -- interview by kirsti reeve

k: ok... let's start with the album.. what does the title mean?
4.5 what?

a: you know

e: it's funny now...

a: it's funny, coz when we did the live at the bbc thing we
had four people in our band plus we had gail sitting in, which
was half a person. and we were thinking we were going to use
some of that on this cd, so we called it 4.5.

k: ok

a: but we didn't use any of it on the cd, so it doesn't make
any sense. it's just a number.

e: we originally called it four and a half, but they thought with
the graphics it'd look better as 4.5, so.. michael, the artist
decided that..

k: the graphic style's quite different from your previous album
covers..

a: it's sort of similar.. style..well.. it's the same artist that did
swamp ophelia, and that does all our t shirts.

k: who chose the tracks on it? why those ones?

a: our manager, and...

e: (coughs) and our publicist and..

a: our publicist who's a good friend.

e: and we..we approved everything. so..

a: they just..they were having fun with it. like, picking what
they wanted to put on there and so we let 'em go. and do it. we
don't usually do that. but our manager is a good friend, our
publicist is a good friend, so it was just like.. they were having
a good time..

e: yeah..

a: we were just like, go for it, we approved it, and it was
interesting what they picked.

k: are they the tracks that you'd have chosen, if you were
asked to put together a..

e: we probably would have picked more obscure tracks.

a: which is probably good why they did it.

k: such as...?

e: umm.. i mighta.. for my songs i might have picked..

a: (interrupts) lemme..lemme see it and i'll tell you! (laughs)
i was happy that they picked pushing the needle, coz i didn't
think they'd pick that one.

e: yeah

a: and three hits i was really happy about, coz that's ... well,
for me i love all of the songs they picked, but..

e: i mean, i might have picked, umm, love will come to you
(a: yeah), virginia woolf maybe (a: yeah), ummm..

a: chickenman maybe, although i didn't like the recording of
that as much as the live version.

e: but i like the songs they picked too.

a: yeah, it's a good collection.

k: why only glastonbury to promote it?

a: well we're tired, we've been on the road since last april,
and we've played here twice in the last year, and umm, this was
really.. our touring season's really over. we're just doing
glastonbury as a fun thing really.

e: if.. i think the record company would have had us do more,
if we'd agreed to do it. (a: yeah) we just didn't want to do it.

k: yep, i can understand that...umm.. why is this only out in
the uk? did you not think there'd be a market for it in the states?

e: umm.. no..

a: it was more like a... the uk needed more.. needed a re..re..
reiteration of what we've done. (e: mmhmm) coz we haven't
played here.. well we've played here a lot, i mean in the last
five years, we think, but we haven't...there wasn't a lot of.. we
weren't noticed that much, and i think there are a lot of albums
we feel like were skipped over, so they wanted to reiterate what,
like they felt were our strong points, to get people to go back out
and rediscover us. that's their reasons. and, that's why they
did it really. we don't usually put "best of" albums out. so.. it's
a cool thing, it's..we we like the cover, it's a good collection,
but.. we're putting together a live record in the states, and i hope
it comes out here, coz some of the tracks are from that london
show, (k: alright!) you know, so... that's going to come out in
the fall.

k: have you seen the released version of boys on the side?
and what did you think of it?

e: which version?

k: well, the final version..

a&e : yeah..

k: and? what was it like seeing yourselves on the big screen?

e: actually it was pretty exciting. i mean, it's like something you
experience for the first time, and it gives you a thrill. i thought,
you know, it's a very hollywood movie, but they tackled some
pretty controversial subjects, at least, you know, for hollywood..
so.. it was cute, it was a cute.. a good movie. you know, it wasn't
like a masterpiece of film or anything, but... but i thought that
they handled the uhh.. subjects, you know, like the racism and
the homophobia and aids, i thought they handled it responsibly
and.. and it was just fun, when i saw us on the big screen,
it was fun. (laughs). amy's dad stood up and clapped.

k: yeah????!!

a: yeah.. he did. (laughs)

k: ok... have you got any expectations of glastonbury?

e: it feels like a big party!

a: it feels like it's going to be really fun.. i wish we were there for
the whole three days, coz i saw the list of bands playing, and it's
just like, name a band, any band, and they're there..

k: what other bands are you wanting to see?

a: i wanted to see elastica, but i don't know when they're playing.
do you know?

k: i think they're saturday evening.

a: really?? (excited) well i will see them then

k: i know pj harvey is saturday...

a: yeah, she's on our stage on saturday evening, so that's good.
there's a lot of great bands.. i mean i just..it sounds like one of
the best festivals in the world to me (e: mmm), it really does.
i like the whole hippy experience myself, personally, (e: yeah)
that's my thing..

k: you're saying about bands like elastica.. what's your own
record collection like? who do you collect? have you found
any new bands recently?

a: uhhh.. i like everybody, you know.. new bands.. there's a
guy that i just finished listening to that i really like, who's
acoustic (grin) and i don't usually like new acoustic stuff all that
much, but his name is ron secksmith [sp??], he's on atlantic..
and our drummer played on his record.. and daniel lanois
produced it, and he's one of my favourite producers, so.. it is
a great record. i mean, it's really like, the guitar sounds like
amazing.. he's .. it's really good. so that's one of my new
favourites.

e: umm.. i like some of the newer bands that have come
out over the last couple of years.. i like pearl jam a lot, and
i like soundgarden, but..i don't feel passionate about them,
like. i rarely come across a new artist that just blows me
away. so.. umm.. i'm really into jane sibbery.. she's got
a new album coming out.. totally love her.. and then, queen
latifah, some black music, public enemy...and umm... still
listen to tons of joni mitchell. still love her, never get tired
of her.

k: do you want to talk about the tour you've just finished,
the native american benefits.. how did you get involved
in that?

a: we got involved from doing...we did one show.. well..
we've been involved with greenpeace our whole career, like,
ever since, i guess, 85 we played our first greenpeace benefit
(e: yeah) or something.. like, ten years ago.. and greenpeace
was involved in this.. they do a lot of native american
campaign.. environmental campaigns which is great, coz
they're probably one of the only mainstream groups that does,
which is really, one of the big issues is the lack of support in
the mainstream ecological community. but they were doing a
show in new york city, protesting this hydro-electric plant in
quebec that new york was ordering energy from, and we
participated in that.. and.. there was a woman that kept coming
up.. her name kept coming up.. and i met her at an earth day,
her name's winona laduke, and she..umm. .she and i started
talking about the things we could do to put our interests together -
the environmental interests, the music and the native community. .
and..we did three dates called honor the earth a couple of years
ago and then we did this whole tour, so.. the money all went into
this big fund and it's getting distributed to, like, there's about ten
or fifteen main grass roots organisations, and then there's people
writing proposals for things such as language recovery programs
and stuff, that'll be given money. so..we did press conferences,
we did political action postcards, we did.. we played on
reservations, cultural exchange, uh..went to alaska, to a public
hearing, dealing with some clear cutting issues up there, and
testified.. ummm..so..you know.. it was pretty extensive and a
very comprehensive tour. it was a great experience, i mean, we
both feel that our lives were changed.

k: what did you learn from it?

e: what did we learn?

a: it's intensified..

e: well we learned a lot about specific issues, i mean we learned
a lot specifically about, you know, which corporations are
responsible for which destruction and who's.. and.. things like
toxic dumping that's going on.. and like some of the insidious
things that companies and federations are doing. and we learned
some of the history. we went to the wounded knee and learned
about the history there, and we met with tribal leaders, and learned
about the different reservations and their way of life.. it's.. it
wasn't all like a bummer, like all the.. because there are a lot of
hopeful things, like, we went to the hopi reservation, and there's
a woman who's an electrician who's with this company who's
been installing solar panels in the homes. and also it's really
inspiring to meet the people who have won these battles, you
know, against these large corporations just by joining together,
a real grassroots effort, and that was very inspiring. we learned
a lot of things but really the most profound thing was just the
sense of their spirituality and the spirit of the people, and their
groundedness.

a: there was a basic sort of overriding factor, you know, of
environmental racism, you know, where it's..just.. you know..and
an overriding obvious factor of the way our government imposed
an economic system and a government system on these tribes, really
starting, i guess.. i mean the indian relocation act was in the
thirties, but it started before that. it's a system that is easily taken
advantage of by corporations and by us. and there's a lot of corrupt
tribal councils that are in cahoots with the government that aren't
the traditional people of the tribe. we learned a lot about that
political infrastructure and the way it works, and the way it's taken
advantage of and the way it can be misrepresented by the media.
and it's.. those are the things that we all need to learn about,
because they make it easier for non-indians to understand why
it's happening and what we can do about it.

k: so there's no indian blood in either of you then?

a&e: no.

k: do you have adresses so if anyone here wants to get involved?

a: i have some in my room..i'll give 'em to you. i've got some
really good resource lists that i wrote for a different.. i just wrote
an article for a magazine and i have a good list that you can use.

k: great.

k: do these political views come out in your songwriting?

a: well..not yet! (laughs)

e: there's no way it can't come out somehow in the coming
year, the songs that we write, definitely.. but it's hard to predict
exactly how.

k: have you written anything while on the tour?

a: i started something.. called volunteers.. but i don't really
know..

e: ooohh.. i like that. i heard snippets of that and that's really
good.

a: it's like i've got.. one verse (e: it's really good, it's really good)
but umm..it's very slow, it's a very slow song. it sounds like an
rem song, i've got to figure out if i'm ripping something off.
i tend to.,.. i don't know why, i don't even listen to them any
more that much. i really like them but i don't listen to them
much. but i tend to rip off a lot of michael's melodies
accidentally (e&k laugh).

e: it's the best feeling in the world to be really inspired by
something and to be ready to write.. makes you feel really
inspired. it's a good feeling. as opposed to writers block.

k: would you say that songwriting has got easier or harder
over time?

e: much harder.. (a: harder) much much harder.

k: because you're more aware of things or?

a: we're more.. i think we're more critical about what we accept
and what we don't as far as songs (e: definitely).. i would say
emily is a very prolific songwriter who has gotten into really
being picky about what she calls a song. (e: yeah) coz you
write a lot of stuff and then i never see it again! (both laugh)
for me, i'm just not that prolific _and_ i'm picky too. so..
(e:yeah) but we.. our songwriting i think has improved, i think
our images have become more unique, i think that's a sign of
maturity. coz when you're young you use these images that
you think are so profound and they're really.. they're really
cliched and you don't know it (laughs). that's what happens to
me. (e: yeah.. yeah).. you know, where they're a little too
melodramatic (e: yeah)

k: so which songs would you like to go back and rewrite now
with different images?

e: oh my gaaahhhd [you get the idea..] so many. left me a fool.

a: oh that's a good song . but yeah..

e: i hammered it over the head a little too hard.

a: walk away i felt like, when i look back on that song, i feel
that it has potential if i could figure out how to change it a little.
i don't know it's a little too.. there's some images that are.. mmm..
dunno.. a little too melodramatic in that song. there's a lot of
songs i'd probably just throw out if i went back and looked at it.

k: what about dredging up some of the really old stuff - you
used nashville on rop - stuff like the untitled song?

e: my god.. i don't even remember that one.. it's been
since we played that.

a: what _is_ that one? what's the first line of that song?

k: [proceeds to quote verse 1 of untitled song]

a: what's the chorus?

e: ohhh.. no..

k: could have seen the acting (a: aahhhhhh...) on the stage.

e: might have read the writing on the page..oh my god!!

k: ok..(a: laughs) ok...

e: couldn't have written that one! page.. stage..

a: now that you say it out loud... they don't sound that
good. (cracks up laughing again)

k: the melody's good though...

e: yeah.. it's a pretty melody.. it's sweet.. sweet... sweet and
sappy.  that was me totally though, i mean, when i was
writing songs like that.  i mean i still have a big sappy part
of me. and i think a lot about love,  i really do. so i write a
lot about it.

a: there's some old songs of emily's i've heard that we could
dredge up and use again though. like half moon cafe
(e: yeah!) that song, that's..you know..

k: which of your songs are you happiest with?

a: i still like kid fears a lot. i like the bridge, you know,
musically i like the way it works, and i like the words. as far
as an old song...

e: i like ghost

a: yeah.. ghost is one of my favourites too. nailed that one.

k: and what about each other's songs..?

e: well i love all amy's songs on the new album. i love playing
every single one of them. i don't get tired of them . and reunion,
i particularly like. i like the images in that song, and i like the
way it moves musically.

a: i'm in a ghost..i've really liked ghost lately, coz the last
tour we played it on, we played it a lot, and the band got it real
tight, and i felt really good about it. so it was fun to do. but on
the last record..i really like power of two a lot. it's like.. it's a
totally pop song (e: yeah. totally). like, it sticks with you, the
words are really good...

k: if you could have written any one song, in the whole of
history, which song would you have liked to have written?

e: hejeira. definitely. that song just blows me away. but
there are many others i also feel like that about.

a: like a rolling stone.

e: tangled up in blue

a: i wish i had written like a rolling stone. it's such a great
song.

e: wild horses.

a: yeah.. (e laughs) that would be..

e: we both wish we'd written that one! (laughter)

a: that is a classic.

k: how do you manage to keep the songs fresh doing the same
set on a long tour?

a: well we don't do the same set. so that's one thing. we change
it every night. there are some songs that show up every night
coz we like them so much. but we just rotate songs, we drop
songs off the playlist when we get sick of them ,and, uh... we
learn covers... we improv. we take songs and change them.

k: the songs that you do write seem to touch people deeply.
any idea why? what makes that connection?

e: well i think they're very emotional. and they're unpretentious.
they're just heartfelt. i mean, everything that we write is really
the way we feel strongly about something, and it's really.. stripped
down. and i think that there are a lot of subjects that we cover that
plenty of people think about, you know. and, i mean, a lot of times
they're archetypal themes, like darkeness and light, just using that
as an example of two images, but it's like the whole human struggle.
how people treat each other, love, injustice..issues that a lot of
people think about.

k: do any of your fans ever scare you?

a: yeah.. i mean, the ones that you just know that they're like..
we've had some fans that were the angry type. you know, they're
mad, but they don't really know why, they're mad at _you_ but
they're not sure why..they're mad at you and they're fans too,
which is a wierd combination. and that has happened. that scares
me a little. but.. it's not.. we don't have a big..we've learned. i mean,
i've learned how to discern. (e: yeah, yeah) and i keep safety in mind,
because i have had some problems. so i'm smartened up about it.
but, you know, we have pretty good fans i think.

e: we do. i think as long as the barriers of my privacy and my
space, those boundaries aren't crossed, i'm pretty much fine. if
someone shows up at my house, it pisses me off. if they write
me a letter to my home address, it makes me mad. or if people
come and hang out at the hotels or stuff like that..because i feel we
give everything we possible can while we're performing and
after the show, and it's not like we're suffering through it, but it's..
and then there's a place where we have to retreat and have our
own lives, separate from this. so as long as those boundaries are
maintained.. i think our fans are amazing. really loyal, supportive,
and typically socially conscious and all kinds of good attributes.

a: yeah.

k: a few questions about specific songs.. amy, what _did_ happen
at your high school reunion?

a: well... it was sort of.. i had a feeling that people were
becoming sort of complascent, and not having that belief and
faith in themselves, you know...it was very.. there was a lot of..i
mean, i'm friends with people from high school still, and i felt
that a lot of negativity in conversation. rather than talking about
things they are proud of in themselves, they talked about a lot
of the negative things in their life. it was really wierd. when i
know that they were achieving like really cool stuff. but i guess
it's relative. they didn't think they were achieving good things.
so it was kind of.. i felt sometimes, like, coz, being popular in
music is considered to be so valid, such a point of.. something
that people strive for.. i felt like some people didn't think that
what they were doing was as exciting or interesting, and they
would play it down to me, and that really bummed me out, coz
i'm really into what other people are doing with themselves.

k: right.. emily.. a bit about your imagery..things like the
pirate and the girl.. and the old dogs and the magician... is
that you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

e: oh totally.. it's pretty obvious isn't it? yeah...

k: it took some though. but like the pirate and the girl verse
coming in the middle of mystery... was that..

e: which part now? the..

k: the pirate gets the ship and the girl? (e: oh yeah yeah..yeah)
at the end of mystery?

a: that's good.

e: yeah.. that song is about a love that, like two people come
from totally different parts of the spectrum, or however you
want to voice it, and i was trying to create tension with that
verse. and i was trying to juxtapose the brutality of a pirate,
and that strength and force and masculinity or whatever it was,
with the sort of subdued quality, or listening ear of the person
who's taken in by that and how it all meshes together.. i was
just sort of trying to mix those images together.

a: what is all the old dogs..

e: from.. uhh.. wood song

a: ahh.. i knew there was a dog somewhere

k: oh there's dogs all over that album!

a: yeah.. everybody kept saying that, and i was trying to..

k: barking in the back..

e: (laughs).. yeah right..

a: i was trying to think of where they all were.

k: how have you found that things have changed since you
"came out" publicly last year? as far as interviews or press
coverage?

a: well... they haven't really changed that much actually.
(e: no) i mean, emily and i.. neither one of us has ever really,
like, hid what we were. it's just like, we, sort of came from different
perspectives as far as whether we wanted to talk about it or not.
(laughs) i always want to talk about it. coz i always want to talk
about everything! and.. umm.. it didn't really seem like things
changed that much (e: if anything...) coz we'd talked about
gay issues in the press.. we always have...it's just that i've always
been the one who answered the questions. and they usually..
a lot of the press didn't seem to dwell on it very much. coz we're
just not that big..so it's like.. if we were melissa, they probably
would have dwelled on it. we didn't hold up signs all over the
place, and try to expliot the hell out of it, which i'm really proud
of. i think it's terrible to exploit that. i think you should stand up
for what you are, because it's an important movement. i mean,
there have been more interviews where we've talked about the
gay rights movement and specifically geared to that, wouldn't
you say?

e: yeah.. i didn't expect it to be as liberating as it really was,
you know? for a long time amy wanted to talk about it, was
fine with it, and i had to go through my own issues about it. some
of them were fear, and some of them were i didn't want the focus
to be on sexuality you know, and hopefully one day it won't be,
you know. but more than anything, it's just been liberating.
and a lot of people have come up and said "thank you", and
everyone thinks we picked this one specific date and magazine
and came out, which wasn't the case, but that's how people see it,
and anyway it's helped them, and i think that's great. (a: and
a lot of..) and if i'd realised that earlier.. you know i would
have made the decision, but you come to your decisions for a
reason and at a certain time and in your own development.
and i'm so glad. i'm so glad about it.

a: we've had a lot of straight people come up and say thanks
too. you know, and we've had a lot of straight people.. our
audience has become _much_ more heterosexual this year than
it's ever been, and that's just the way you grow - it just becomes
more general, more of a.. clear cut between mainstream america..
so.. i've had people coming up to thank me who've had kids
hanging all over them, who were heterosexual, and they're like
"we're proud of you, and we thank you because.. like, my brother
is," or i'm part of this organization, and someone did something..
and it's really great.

k: can i ask just a couple of really quick questions, then we'll
head back?

e: ok..

k: the odd, stupid questions.. what did you dream last night?

a: ahh. i had a terrible dream. (e: god!) i dreamed i got home
from tour, and i had.. for some reason.. i had stuff in storage
that was like my parents stuff, and i had to return it to all
their different places, like, they have like some places where
they go to vacation, and like there was a boat in my storage
shed that was my dad's and i had to take it back to the dock.
and all this stuff and.. (e: responsibility!!).. i couldn't figure
out how to get it all, and my suitcase wasn't off the bus yet..
it was one of those touring dreams. it was a touring dream.

e: i don't remember what i dreamt last night. (a: really?) i have
no rec.. i had a really bad night's sleep, i kept waking up, i
woke up really early this morning.. and i feel like the whole
night was a complete fog.

k: the last book that you read?

a: the last book that i read was a book called winter birds
by jim grinsley, a writer from carolina.

e: that's the last book i read too.

a: we're sharing it. (e: yeah)

k: do you share books generally, or is this..?

a: sometimes..

e: well we were both sitting on the plane, and amy had just
finished it and she's like, you know, check this out. (a: it was
a fast read) and i was just completely absorbed.

e: i'm reading e annie proule's heart songs right
now, a collection (a: ahh. me too!! laughs) you are? wow..

a: i'm reading the story of my heart, the book of tecumsah
the life of tecumsah, but i'm reading heart songs too at the
same time, it's at home on my bedside table.

e: wow.. that's wild. i can't wait to read, when we get off the
road. i just can't wait. i love reading so much,

a: i usually try to read a non fiction book at the same time as
i'm reading short stories or something, because they compliment
each other you know. because i'm reading a really heavy book
about tecumsah right now, so it's just like, you know, every tribe
has about ten different names for the same tribe, and it's hard to
read and it's really thick.. so it's like, read some short stories as
well.

k: yeah.. if you could be any fictional or cartoon or tv
character.. who?

(long silence)

a: hmmm...

(more long silence)

e: that's a rack your brain question!

a: yeah..

(pause)

e: i thought you would want to be patrick stewart

a: no.. he's got too much responsibility. (all laugh) all the ones
that i like i wouldn't want to be because they're so.. they have
so much responsibility and their burden is so heavy. and i
don't feel like doing that right now. nancy drew seemed like
she had a pretty good life. (k: oh yes!!) you know, like,
discovering little detective stories.. getting to experience all
different stuff.. (k: and a cool girlfriend.. kind of!) yeah!

e: when i was young i wanted to be harriet the spy. did you
ever read that book? (a: that's a good book) harriet the spy..
and on tv when i was young, i wanted to be a policewoman..
angie dickinson.. or kate jackson from charlies angels. but
i don't really watch all that much tv any more.

a: the sandman would be a nice person to be.. have you read
those comics? (k: no) jan has.. jan's into comics.. we share that
interest.

k: ok.. and finally.. your favourite ben and jerry's ice cream
flavour.

e: oooooohhh that cookie dough stuff! i don't even like ice
cream. but i like that.

a: i like the chocolate fudge brownie yogurt flavour. that is
good. i like that as much as any of their ice creams.

k: mmmm.. and when are you next coming back here?

a: it's gonna be a looooooooong time

e: it is going to be a long time. coz we'll probably tour the
states first, you know, when we put out another studio album,
and that's not going to be for a while.

a: it'll probably be a couple of.. i hate to say that, but it's
probably gonna be a couple of years. coz we're taking a really
long break. but the live record's gonna be, sort of like a concert..
you know, it's gonna have some really weird stuff in it.. it's gonna
be like a show. (e: yeah) and the bbc thing is gonna be coming
out.. so.. we feel bad about it kind of, but we need a break.

k: so you're gonna be taking time away from music..?

a: oh yeah.. we're taking like a year off the road completely.
we're not going to do anything. starting like in august or
something.

e: yeeeaahhhh.. it's gonna be really good.

a: i mean, we need it, we really need this break. it's probably
a really stupid career move, but who cares.

e: (laughs) that's the way we've always been.. never really thought
about career moves.

a: (laughing) career? blagh.. who cares?

at 08:08 pm 7/20/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>
>>well, like i said, i'll volunteer to get all of your messages together and
>>send them out... i guess i could send them to russell carter, to the
>>management address in 1200 curfews... unless anyone else has better ideas??
>>
>>let me know what y'all wanna do!
>>
>>tiff
>>
>>
>hey! sounds darn good to me! just tell us when to send in the messages!
>thanks tiff :)
>
>jendy
>
>
>

well, _now_ would be good so i can get it out in the snail mail, or cyber
mail. which is better?

tiff

at 09:37 pm 7/20/96 -0700, you wrote:
>hey, i can't wait for the rob & deb shirt to arrive, but in the
>meantime, the nff shirt that rena put together arrived, and it is
>quite the item. i really like it lots! many thanks to her for the
>effort! it looks great, and i know lots of folks will be jealous!
>might even wear it to bumbershoot.....
>
>ann
>

nff shirt?

hey everyone, just wanted to share that i saw disappear fear last
night at raoul's in portland and they were awesome! it was a
funky show to begin with, as raoul's is an out of the way club that
can hardly be called classy, and that sonia's biggest fan there
was this 65-ish year old man who had seen her in concert many,
many times...some of his friends came to the show too but
were so loud during the first song that the band actually stopped
playing because sonia was laughing too hard to sing, and the
keyboard player made a few funny remarks that shut them up. the
musicians could actually hear parts of the conversation over the
music, and the sound was pretty loud! anyway, they were well worth
seeing, it was a good time and if you all get a chance to catch
them this summer do it! at 8 bucks a ticket it was well worth it
for me!
ta,
s

i've heard "power of two" in musak. god, you're right, it is a horribly traumatic experience. keep the faith.

amy

hey all--

who knows--can images from the sony music ig page be downloaded for legal use
on personal web pages? i saw the thumbnails in the photo album and thought
they were pretty cool. also, i'd appreciate it if i could get some direction
on other good sites for ig image downloading (legal!)...where's to start?

mary :)

        been listening to the igs by the pool today.  admiring emily's
stellar guitar licks on the 1200 curfews cds.  delighted i've seen them play
at jazzfest, going to see them at nff, then hampton beach, and to prove i'm
over the edge - i bought a ticket to the austin show on august 20th.  and i
wish emily a very happy birthday - many returns of this day and all future
ones - thanks for sharing the music and passion with the rest of us mortals.
"i do not base my opinions of people on race, sex, or orientation.  there
are enough reasons to dislike them just based on individual personalities."

all out of festivals (and $) until august, :-(
karen

hello to all-

is this old news to everybody that ig are going to be at bumbershoot in
seattle? i've seen it mentioned here in the paper twice now, so i know it
must not be a typo.

i was surprised because when the girls were here last year for jesus christ
superstar the paper said they were taking a break from touring for two years.

anyway i was really excited to see they are coming and i will be prepared to
get up real early to get in line for that show. ( i got in line at about 11
a.m. for the show here last year. it started at 8 p.m. and i was in the front
row in heaven. i see a definate resemblance between amy and jesus. :)

i've been on the list for a few days now and i just wanted to say its one of
the friendlier places i've visited since i've been online (just one week).
its nice to know there are computees out there with common interests, values
as myself.

also- i live in seattle now but i'm moving to tucson in september. any indigo
fans out there from tucson? let me know.

thanks!

i need some info and i wasn't sure if it was an admin request or not. i lost
all my original info regarding this list-especially the part where it told
you how to save these messages in a certain spot so that your message box
doesn't get full. can anyone help?

also, i got a new modem and i'm having lots of problems. its a promethius
cyberphone 288. the tekkie at work said i should get a more expensive one.
anybody out there use this modem? i'd like to know if its going to work at
some point. (i'm back to my old 2400 baud at the moment.)

thanks for any help and sorry for the nigc.

hello fellow listees,

just to remind y'all <g>, that i'm on the tape tree for deb o's atlanta pride
tape 6/30/96.  it's got a so-so ig set, an especially vocally strong emily
all through and a really sucky (excuse me <lol>) amy vocal on "high horse"
with hash.  it was kinda funky but, um, i think that's what you call out of
key.  out of tune?  you musicians out there, you tell me the correct term
<lol>.  and btw, good photo choice : )

also i've got extra copies of the red light cafe 2/26/96 tape made up and
ready to go. that tape has an earlier version of shame on you by amy,
medicated magdalene and hamlet went swimming by michelle malone, in the
afternoon by cooper seay and going to the country by emily. i wish wendy
bucklew didn't get cut out but i'm thankful to get to hear all the rest.
thanks much to whoever taped it.

plus....still got copies of the may 4 show at uno lakefront arena, new
orleans, la. oh my gosh and while i'm saying thanks, this is an excellent
quality tape of their next-to-most-recent show. this is a must-have.

ok, well, obviously i've had some time on my hands.  just write me if you
don't have one of these tapes yet.  i really don't care what sign you are.
if you missed the announcements for any of these tapes, or just
procrastinate like i do about everything *but* tapes these days.....just
write.  all i ask is wrapped maxell tapes & sases, although if you've already
got a pile of others, just say so.  don't forget the pride tape takes a 100
min length tape.

another revelation -- i just discovered the cassette liner program, .cas!
wow.  we're talkin' quantum leap!  i was trying to do this in msworks!
where have i been?  this makes it hardly any trouble at all to make copies.
anybody wants tapes, lemme know.  trading is good, but in the fine tradition
begun for me by carolyn (underdog), blanks are cool too.

write me if there's something you're looking for.  . unfortunately my
collection is not even vast.  so, this offer might just be best for beginning
collectors.  all are welcome to correspond.

i might be sorry (or my mailman might),
lorie da meek monger
: )

hi all...

i'm having a helluva good time messing with my web page. there's a cool
freeware program called html assistant out there.

so now it's ready for you to check it out. it's got my philosophy of
mongering the media and most of my favorite links. more indigo girls links
and gifs to be added. in fact they need their whole page, and i shall
oblige.

please check it out, it's still a baby, but it will grow (and get better
looking, i hope <g>) my address is:

http://members.aol.com/mediamongr/

and this is for aoler's who can click on hyperlinks in e-mail (apologies in
advance to everyone else):

<a href="http://members.aol.com/mediamongr/">look at the mediamonger manifesto
</a>

comments are welcome.

lorie the meek mediamonger
(no "e" in the address though <g>)

as the official "keeper of the birthday list"(a title bestoewd upon me
by amy krisko) it is my pleasure to wish emily a very happy birthday
on behalf of the entire list!!

let emily day begin!!!!!!
thanks, kel (a definite emily-person)
--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy. (r.bach)
if you don't make dust, you eat it.
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast... (indigo girls)

emily's birthday is on july 22, the very day that the
washington state dept. of revenue is demanding that
i tender my 1st qtr. b&o taxes (so i'm a little late...jeeez...)
or they will do something bad to me.........

.......
................
............................how cosmic.

binky (bad doggie)

happy, happy birthday to miss emily!!!!-another year down!:)

a few hours ago, i wrote:

<<deb o's atlanta pride tape 6/30/96.  it's got a so-so ig set, an especially
vocally strong emily all through and a really sucky (excuse me <lol>) amy
vocal on "high horse" with hash.  it was kinda funky but, um, i think that's
what you call out of key.  out of tune?  you musicians out there, you tell me
the correct term <lol>.  and btw, good photo choice : )>>

however, i left out the most important part!

viva la diva was excellent.  a lot of energy by cooper.  i saw 'em live once
but this tape apparently captured even better performances.  (of course it
may have been the alcohol dulling my musical senses in atlanta. but that's
another story.)  get this tape for vld and hash.  ya big snobs that won't
send for anything but strictly ig stuff just don't know what yer missin' .

oh -- and an error. i said:

<< also i've got extra copies of the red light cafe 2/26/96 tape made up and
ready to go.  that tape has an earlier version of shame on you by amy,
medicated magdalene and hamlet went swimming by michelle malone, in the
afternoon by cooper seay and going to the country by emily.  i wish wendy
bucklew didn't get cut out but i'm thankful to get to hear all the rest.
  thanks much to whoever taped it. >>

it's not shame on you, it's don't give that girl a gun on red light.  (oops,
sarah caught me : > )  what's interesting metamorphosis-wise is the
difference between get out the map on the may 4 tape and get out the map on
the pride 6/30 tape.  unless i'm all discombobulated again, which could be
the case.

btw, i really don't usually go around quoting myself. <shakes head> really.

lorie
http://members.aol.com/mediamongr/

well it's not monday over here yet, but it is where she is so....

happy birthday emily!!!!

god bless you and your music!!!!!

you are truly a blessing!!!

love,
chris payne owen4@adnc.com

"there's a thin line between pleasin' yourself,
and pleasin' somebody else"

-ig-

dearest emily, happy, happy birthday to the most talented strawberry
blond i know! have a great year, and i'll see you in austin!

cyndi

fyi....

i was surfing the net at work (the only place i have access right now) and
looked up the ig's sony website. according to the sony website (i am
giving total credit here to avoid any legal hassels) this is there summer
concert schedule. (epic_records@sonymusic.com):

date     city                 state                venue
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
8-11    newport                ri          ft. adams st. park
8-12    hampton beach          nh          hampton beach casino
8-14    new york               ny          roseland
8-15    philadelphia           pa          electric factory
8-16    lewiston               ny          art park
8-17    norfolk                va          the boathouse
8-20    austin                 tx          the backyard
8-22    dallas                 tx          artist square
8-25    las cruces             nm          new mexico state univ.
8-25    santa fe               nm          paolo solieri
8-26    mesa                   az          mesa amphitheatre
8-31    seattle                wa          seattle center arena

(just a thought, could the las cruces gig be on the 23rd or 24th?)

the site says that this is a "demo tour"... so  this means they are
comming out with a new album, right????!!!!  please keep us poor  fools
that can't go up to date... but i am  sure you  will, 'cuz you are all the
greatest!

and since i can't go, will anyone be booting? i would be interested in
getting a copy.... please!

thanks. peace. ttfn!
elaine r

hey, when i posted the concert dates, i listed epics e-mail address, not
the website.... the website address is:

http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epic

sorry if there was confusion.

ttfn!
elaine r

happy birthday to emily, my sarah, and veronica's little sarah!!!!

hugs,
deb

june 21-29, 1995 -- aquarian weekly

interview with emily saliers:

aquarian weekly: tell me how you got involved with the whole "honor the
earth" concept.

emily saliers: amy met winona la duke at earth day in foxboro stadium. and
they started talking about some of
the issues, some of the activism that  winona was involved in. so we agreed
to do a few shows. i guess winona came  up with that title "honor the
earth." that was back in '93 that we did those  shows....

aw: where were those shows?

es: those were in minneapolis and in that part of the country. and it was
really successful and very profound for me and amy - we learned a lot, we
met a lot of wonderful people. so we said, 'let's do a whole tour where we
can really have it be intense, where we can get a lot of press coverage, and
bring to light a lot of these issues to other people.' it just took this
long to get it all together.

aw: the two of you must get really swamped with requests to do any number of
benefits.

es: we get approached all the time, and it's really hard to say no. it used
to be that we'd see all the requests, but now everything goes through the
office. that's good, because it would be so exhausting to have to say 'no'
to everything personally.

aw: is there a goal as to how much money this month-long tour will raise?
i'm sure you're equally concerned about raising public awareness as well.

es: well, the goal is supposed to be somewhere around a quarter of a
million dollars - that's profit. amy and i were thinking that it was going
to maybe be more. that's the last figure that i heard. but, obviously, i
won't know until everything is done.

aw: but i would imagine everything is pretty much all sold out

es: pretty much. we played in fargo, nd last night. we'd never played there
before. it was a good crowd, but it wasn't totally sold out. all the other
shows are all sold out.

aw: do you have any merchandise that you're selling?

es: yep, we're selling 'honor the earth' t-shirts and long-sleeve shirts,
and caps, and posters. all that money goes to the benefit as well.

aw: have you also been doing lots of press?

es: lots of interviews, press conferences, there's printed information in
the lobby for people who come to the shows. winona la duke speaks every
night. there's a slide show after she speaks that has quotes from different
indigenous peoples - the photography is stunning. winona explains to the
audience that she has a couple of cards that she wants people to fill out.
they get sent to congress people or local leaders that have to do with
specific issues. so, it's really trying to saturate people with as much
information as possible.

aw: i wouldn't be surprised if some other musicians picked up the baton and
tried to keep this going

es: well, apparently it's hard to get musicians to commit to things like
this. i don't know why. some of these native people were telling us that
people talk a lot about doing stuff with native americans, but they just
don't do it. or, they use natives in their music - or, on their covers - but
it doesn't really affect native people and their issues.

aw: this quote from winona is so profound, "if we build a society based on
honoring the earth, we build a society which is sustainable, and has the
capacity to support all life forms." that just seems like such a simple
'take care of the earth and it will take care of you' philosophy.

es: which is a hard thing, as you know, when you come up against
industrialism, capitalism, and greed. obviously, the population has
exploded. it's hard to imagine the whole world living as indigenous people
do. there's so much more that can be done in industrialized society that is
respectful of the earth. i mean, give me a break. they talk about jobs being
lost - like when owls are protected and things like that. but so many jobs
could be created if we changed our way of thinking about things like using
alternative energy sources, and using recycled materials. jobs could be
created in recycling plants, and people who are out in the fields exploring
ways to use alternative energy, and all kinds of things. we just have to
change our way of thinking.

aw: well, that's a problem. most people don't like the concept of change.

es: but, it's like turn off your water when you're brushing your teeth, and
turn off your lights when you're not using them, and write on two sides of
paper. it's simple things like that that make a huge difference.

aw: you've been to one reservation so far. what was that like? was that the
first time you'd ever visited one?

es: i've driven through reservations - just because there are parts of the
country where you have to - but i'd never been invited to one.  it was
great. it's really something. it's where winona lives, too. so,  she took us
around, gave us a tour, and talked about a lot of the issues,  and the
people. then, we went to the indian school, and played for the kids. and,
there was the ceremonial beating of the drum and songs. it  was great.

aw: i wasn't at all surprised when i first heard about this tour. you guys
have always done the best things.

es: well, we just get so much joy out of it, you know. we're learning as
much - and taking home as much - as anyone else involved.

aw: since you're in that neck of the woods - and it will be 20 years since
the shootout near the jumping bull ranch in oglala, sd - has the subject of
leonard peltier's wrongful imprisonment come up?

es: it hasn't come up much on this tour, actually - maybe a couple of times
in passing conversation. these issues are more focused on the environment.
that case is not being focused on this tour, but obviously, it's a concern.

aw: lately, it seems that there has been some major misrepresentation of
native americans in movies and on
television. with the possible exception of 'northern exposure,' you never
see a native person who's presented as a functioning person in 1995.

es: i haven't seen 'northern exposure.' but i think it's probably the same
thing that's been happening through history. the one thing that i learned
from a class amy and i took together at emory is that there's so much that
was written that wasn't true. that's because it's written from the white
man's perspective. then you have accounts that date back to when the
discoverers came over and tried to shove christianity down the indian's
throats. and they wrote historical accounts, and they were just passed down
through time. so, there was all that deception going on. in order to get a
true account, you need to get it from native people - or you need to get it
from people who were living on the reservations and had contact with the
natives.

aw: now you're coming across, i would assume a variety of tribes. there's no
fighting going on amongst the tribes?

es: not that we've come across. i know that some of that goes on. and, i
know, historically there were tribes that didn't get along with other tribes
- supposedly. i guess that's just part of humanity - people not getting
along. but, no we haven't come across that yet.

aw: have you written any songs about your experiences, yet?

es: songs will definitely be coming out of it. we've only been on the road a
week, and the schedule's been pretty hectic. amy wrote "jonas and ezekiel" -
or, at least the part that says every land is native land and spiritual -
that was inspired by our earlier shows.

aw: you had a variety of people opening these dates for you - including some
native musicians like pura fe.

es: right. pura fe and her band, ulali, opened up two of the shows. we hung
out with those guys - they're wonderful. we want to tour with them in the
future. we're having native artists open all the shows.

aw: have the two of you been doing any performing with any of the native
people?

es: they come out and sing on 'closer to fine.' there's a song that ulali
sang that we'd like to learn. we just haven't had any time.

aw: what are your plans after the tour ends in early june?

es: we're going to england to do a festival at the end of june. we're doing
a week of 'jesus christ superstar' shows in july in seattle. then we're
taking a long break - like a year off.

aw: so, you won't be going into the studio at all?

es: we're putting out a live album this fall. and, we're doing the newport
folk festival in august.

aw: did you do anything special to commemorate earth day?

es: we played an earth day show in atlanta - it was real alternative. we had
jeff buckley, g. love and special sauce, mike watt, and the drummer from
nirvana - dave grohl came. it was a good turnout but the weather was
horrible. it wasn't cold, but there were thunderstorms, and it was a
mudbath. eddie vedder was there, too. so, it was cool.

june 1994 -- unknown

indigo girls
alison ridgeway talks to indigo girl vocalist emily saliers

ok, the story goes like this...

emily saliers and amy ray became friends when they met at high school in
atlanta, georgia in 1979. a year later they began playing together and
although they had part-time jobs (emily in a grocery store, amy in a pizza
parlour), by the time they graduated in 1985, they were earning a living
from their music and to date have sold four million records in the united
states.

"when we started out we had a strong women's following" said emily, "then it
became more college kids. now we have a lot of older people and a good mix
of men and women."

according to emily, the fans at the uk gigs last year were american students
but a little butterfly told me that the two sold out shows at london's firum
were packed with very english-looking dykes. their fans, k d lovers to a
woman, have their suspicions, but the twosome refuse to talk about their
relationship.

time to check it out for yourselves. the indigo girls are back in the
country to tour and to release an album called 'swamp ophelia'.

what?

"swamp ophelia is the name of a plant that amy discovered on one of her
walks. it seemed to reflect the album as it's so alternative, with a mix of
rock 'n' roll and simple vocal songs." it's true...it's a mix, with country,
pop, vocal solos all kept together by emily's voice. "swamp ophelia seemed
to mix the beautiful with the ugly, the murky with the feminine. it fitted
perfectly and it quite suited us when nobody knew what it meant."

last year's uk summer tour was an experience for the band who both like to
travel and see different cultures. "europe broadens my horizons in differnt
ways. this time there's the additonal and gratifying feeling of playing at
hammersmith (apollo) as it's a recognised place."

"europe is satisfying in a different way to the us, but we usually don't
have time to see a lot of the countries. we arrive, check-in, soundcheck,
play and then it's back on the road although we did go to the lake district
last year. we've also played in germany, france, scandinavia and the
netherlands but haven't explored the cities there either. europe is so old
and because i'm into history england is wonderful for me."

emily did a madonna last year jogging in hyde park but did the tourist route
too, visiting camden market, but her favourite place?

"bloomsbury, definitely. i went there to soak up the literary atmosphere and
i found a rare virginaia woolf book so i was very happy."

emily and amy are obviously enjoying themselves being famous and travelling
the world, but don't they sometimes just long to sit by the fire with a cup
of tea?

"well, i have two different lives - the home life is planning the garden,
reading, playing golf, joggig, being healthy and working out. amy is an
outside person, she likes to commune with nature and spends a lot of time in
parks. she also runs her own record label, so she spends a lot of time
working with that. my other life is on the road, but when i'm living that
i'm always trying to catch up and re-connect with the home life. we're very
thankful for the success, but do miss the quality time at home and need a
feeling of balance."

the indigo girls have become very successful in the us and that success is
now becoming more transatlantic. but after playing together for fourteen
years, will they ever tire?

"oh, it gets harder as we get older and we're both 30 now. amy said the
other day that she doesn't want to be touring when she's 45. i'm sure we'll
slow down by doing less gigs and not putting out so many records. maybe
we'll get a second career. i'd like to explore different forms of writing in
the future. i'd like to do music for movies and learn to play the piano, but
more as a hobby. if i didn't do this i could be chef because i do like to
cook. i do gourmet foods, sauces, butter, cream..."

what happened to the healthy lifestyle?

"we are healthy overall, a little butter and cream never did any harm."

after the european tour, the indigo girls will spend the rest of the summer
touring us theatres with a band, then they do a three week benefit tour for
native ameriacn culture.

rumour has it that these two are workaholics, among other things.

"..but we are planning to take a holiday to australia in january."

i'll believe it when the postcard arrives.

happy birthday, emily! i tried to send this message at the exact time of her
birth, but i think my computer's clock is screwed up, so oh well... it's
emily day! i am going to listen to nothing but emily songs all day long. =)
emily emily emily!!!!

peace, love, and cancers,
ponygirl

ms. sailers, just wanted wish you a happy birthday! love, paul

i also thought that a&e would have been the perfect musical performers at
the opening. although gladys knight was great singing "georgia on my mind"
but what would have certainly been better would have been our indigo girls
singing "midnight train to georgia".

that would have made that already wonderful opening ceremony even better.

doubt that the olympic officials would have anything against lesbians being
included due to k.d. lang's singing at the closing ceremonies at the winter
olympics at calgary. (someone has previously indicated that their being
lesbians was the reason they weren't asked to be involved....)

a note for those listers living in atlanta: i wanted to say this before
the olympics started...but...good luck and stay safe during the olympics.
i can't imagine would it would be like living there during this busy time,
but i just wanted to wish those atlantans good luck.

take care,
- jen hall
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well, i just had to post right now.  opening ceremonies are not over yet
but
i just had the greatest idea of what would have made it even better.  of
course you are saying what could be better than a bunch of chrome pick-up
trucks and cheerleaders and a big huge "how y'all doing"  but i think i
have
something.  just before i tell y'all my great idea, all i can say is that
if
there is anyone who doubts that the south is the best now, i just don't
knowhow anyone can do that.  you have to love atlanta.  anyway, speaking of
atlanta, don't y'all think that the it would have been so awesome if they
would have had amy and emily sing instead of celine dion.  i must admit i
am
not that big of a celine dion fan but as i watched her sing i was like "man,
i sure wished they had asked emily and amy to sing" because they are from
atlanta and everything.  that would have just been awesome.  i love the
olympics.  i must add, it brought a tear to my eye when janet evans carried
the torch.  i am a fellow swimmer and i know what it takes to get there.
something i don't have.  anyway, thanks y'all!!
sarah

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i, too, bought my 2 tickets for this blessed event on august 20th. '

can anybody give me real specific directions on how to get to the backyard
from houston? ( real specific - - - this is a woman driver you're talking
to....<g>.)

thanks,
- jen hall
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well, i got up bright and early this morning (not really that early, but
before 10:00 when the tickets went on sale!) and ordered my tickets for
the indigo girls at the backyard in austin on august 20.  hope to see
other area texan ig fans at the concert.  i'll be close to the front (i
hope - first come first served, you know) and wearing my beautiful (i
haven't seen it yet but i know it will be) ig listers shirt.  wear yours
and we can meet and talk before or after the concert!  yay!

cyndi

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hi. it's not what you're thinking y'all. i mean yeah, i need help getting a
date too, but that's not why i'm writing...

i made a compilation of bootleg stuff for a friend and need the dates/venues
where:
nothing to hide
blue food
shades of indigo and
independent releases

were recorded

email me privately if you can/wanna

thx
susan
p.s thanks for the many vanity plates ideas...the winner is....okay, i haven't
decided yet. but the winner will get a spanky ig-related prize, if that tempts
any of you to send an idea... :)

hello.. i found *three* cds this weekend that had ig on them, one of
which i had never heard of before. they were:

uptown girls (all ig, boot cd from germany, live at uptown lounge and
some sf stuff... pretty cool, but not extatic)

best of mountain stage v. 3 or maybe 5, i forget. ig doing love's
recovery. (i haven't listened to it yet)

best of contemporary folk, ig does hammer & a nail (havcen't listened to
this one either)

just thought i'd share. i hadn't heard of the last one and had forgotten
about the first.

margaret

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              jul 22, 96 7:54 am

>
> i also thought that a&e would have been the perfect musical performers at
> the opening. although gladys knight was great singing "georgia on my mind"
> but what would have certainly been better would have been our indigo girls
> singing "midnight train to georgia".

i can't knock the choice of gladys or the song. lets face it, gladys is
a much bigger worldwide name than the ig.

besides, i think ig would be better for the closing ceremonies.
opening ceremonies are more formal, everyone marches in a line
according to country, you take oathes, everyone is nervous about their
event. the closing ceremonies are a party -- just a mass of humanity
of all types and a huge wave of euphoria in the crowd. this is the
ideal ig crowd!

i can hear it now:

        "y'all can sing and dance if ya know this one"
                <breaks into "closer to fine">
        "thanks y'all!"

now that would be perfect. remember the '84 la games? lionel richie
did "all night long." while i'm not a lr fan, he really did capture
the moment and its a classic olympic memory.

note, rem may get the nod here, again on name recoginition.

> doubt that the olympic officials would have anything against lesbians being
> included due to k.d. lang's singing at the closing ceremonies at the winter
> olympics at calgary. (someone has previously indicated that their being
> lesbians was the reason they weren't asked to be involved....)

to be honest, i also think that their sexual preference had nothing to
do with it. its not like they picked up some random schmo to sing.

-- chris

p.s.  can someone please explain the silver pick-up trucks to me?
p.p.s.  if they did get the closing ceremonies gig, what are the odds
                they would do bmhawk?  probably not, but an interesting
                question -- huge audience == huge chance to make an impact....

happy birthday emily!!!!! have a great day!!

peace, happiness, love, and birtday cake -- martha bleeker

the best of contemporary folk is an awesome sampler of some really great
artists. the name of the label that puts it out escapes me at this time
(i am at work and can't look it up, but will when i get home for anyone
who is interested), but they are very into social issues and are the
same group who put out the shelter compliation last year in which a
portion of the sales go to support, well, shelter.
(the shelter double cd features "singer-songwriters" including cheryl
wheeler and catie curtis(names that pop up on this list) as well as
some other great artists)

the best of contemporary folk cd does have the girls and "hammer and a nail",
however it is the same as the studio (nis) version.

this cd is amazing anyway and includes the likes of kristen hall, joan baez,
christine lavin, cliff eberhardt, dougie mclean, and john gorka to name a few.

right now i feel like an walking advertisment. no, i am not getting paid to
endorse this cd.. :-) i just play it alot!

in the spirit of the earth,
cynthia
crecca@admin.njit.edu
who is anxiously waiting for august 14th!

emily
you're the natural snow

the unsteadied sea

you're a cameo

(she's got the way to move me, emmie,
she's got the way to move me, yeah..............)

love,
binky
("emmie" written by laura nyro, 1968)

"to arrest, for the space of a breath, the hands busy about the work of the
earth, and compel [people] entranced by the sight of distant goals to glance
for a moment at the surrounding vision of form and color, of sunshine and
shadows; to make them pause for a look, for a sigh, for a smile - such is the
aim, difficult and evanescent, and reserved only for a very few to achieve.
but sometimes, by the deserving and the fortunate, even that task is
accomplished. and when it is accomplished - behold! - all the truth of life
is there: a moment of vision, a sigh, a smile - and the return to an eternal
rest."

- joseph conrad

her birthday day is just beginning in atlanta where she is, but here where i
am the day is about to end, so here are my birthday thoughts.

thank you, dear emily, for deciding to be a musician instead of an english
teacher (though i am sure you would have been a great one). thank you for
believing in and committing to a friendship and musical partnership first
forged during that most tenuous of times - high school ... and most of all,
thank you for sharing your many gifts with us. "inspiration" is an
understatement.

hope your day is filled with love and laughter - it's the least you deserve.

happy birthday emily!!!

hi y'all (again),

just like to mention first that i don't think i've ever met
a bunch of friendlier people...this is the first time i've
not felt uncomfortable out of lurk-mode :)

anyways, my question is for y'all out there who happen to
be the proud owners/wearers (?) of cowboy hats.  i'm planning
to head out to buy one this weekend and i'm just curious if
there is anything i should be asking/considering when
purchasing one.  do they make them small enough for women?
is there a particular brand that's pretty good?  anyways,
you get the idea.

thanks,

denise

p.s. best birthday wishes to emily...you rock my world :)

from the richmond times-dispatch :
if july 22 is your birthday:  you are drawn to excitement, you seldom are
satisfied with things the way they are.  taurus, leo, scorpio persons play
fantastic roles in your life.  relationship with mother twofold - at once
close and distant.  current cycle equates to travel, philosophy, intense
romantic experience.  august will be memorable.

of course august will be memorable! she's coming to virginia!!!!! (and
guess where i'll be on august 17!!!!)
happy emily day
katy

hi all. several people were interested in knowing the dates i asked for
(bootlegs) so here's what i got.

nothing to hide- radio city music hall, 6/28/94
blood and fire- u of oregon, 8/21/93
dowar- also rmch, 6/28/94
indy releases- mixed bag, mostly 1985 ep stuff, also some 1984 and the b-side
is the roiginal release of strange fire)
shades- intyerview with s colvin in denver, 0ct 20/21 1990
blue food- 1985 atlanta (the dugout)

okay, back to my job now! weekend withdrawal can be tough---- :*
sus

actually, you can find the date for any show performed by the ig (about 1200
of them listed) in a file called curfew.txt that is on a http site somewhere
and on my c:\ drive if anyone wants it. it lists 'em all with very few
mistakes. i think they compiled it when they made a cd called 1200 curfews ;)

jude :)

hey all! (i am delurking for the first time)

a very happy birthday wish to emily today!

i would like to say that the people on this group are awesome! i'm glad
i found it!

i guess there is no new news on the dc show????(help)

peace
-k
(hope you all don't mind the random writing style)

hey y'all,

i'll be in the states during august/september and i have a chance to to
fit the mesa show (8/26) into my schedule....i'll be in la from the 8/24
to the 8/27....would anyone out there in indigoland be (a going on a
roadtrip to this concert from la and be interested in letting a poor aussie
tourist tag along, or b) be able to help me get a ticket as i have no way
at the moment of getting a ticket....any help in either of these areas
would be *hugely* appreciated as you would be fulfilling a lifelong dream
of mine (seeing the ig's in their native land)...

peace,

mark t. (signing off with fingers *and* toes crossed) :)

happy emily day to all-

i recently came across the actual vinyl 33 1/3 of shades of indigo. can
anyone tell me what a reasonable price is for such a find?

thanks,
holly

happy birthday to you
happy birthday to you
happy birthday dear emily....
happy birthday to you

well, i'm just back from a weeks fieldwork and found that the
unversity had changed the main server and my ig mail from the past 1
1/2 weeks has gone...so i was feeling a little lost this morning,
ready for a big dose of indigo-ambiance...and thanks seffy for
reminding of this special day (yep, have to admit i've been so tied
up that i forgot...but hey, my thoughts have been with emily all day
now :) )
so, seffy tells me the us is being treated to several ig concerts
over the summer...you jammie dodgers...just aint fair you know...
but i am going to see dar play in glasgow, so i've got something to
look forward to :)
anyway, must stop rambling..
talk to y'all later
love helene
"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky" kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
44(0)1265 324010

hello all.
i'm a newbie here on the list... and an newbie indigo girls fan. though
i maybe a newbie, i'm in love with them. i have all their available
recordings but am in search of the old, independent albums. if anyone
has any of the following and are willing to copy them if i send blank
tapes:
   tuesday's children
   color me grey
   blue food
   indigo girls ep
   strange fire (1987) the original one...
anyone willing to help would make me so happy. please e-mail me if
possible. happy birthday emily! see you all that are going to the
philly concert aug 15th.
thanks y'all
     ray

i (susan) wrote:

>indy releases- mixed bag, mostly 1985 ep stuff, also some 1984 and the b-side

to which carolyn corrected me:

i am the person who put the original tape that was offered to the list
together, there is nothing on there that was released in 1984.

just fyi- susan

hello everyone!

my name is cheryl and i am also new to the list, but have loved the
indigo girls for ages, it seems. i'm new to the whole concept of boots
and tapes, though, so if some kind person could fill me in i would be so
grateful! it would be great to have "new" old music to listen to!

y'all seem like such friendly, wonderful people. i'm sure amy and emily
are thrilled they have such cool fans!

thanks so much!!

cheryl

how many syllables are in "saliers"? i'm
writing a haiku about emily.

thanks in advance,
i-girl

happy birthday emily!!!

i'd just like to say a simple and heartfelt thank you - for sharing your
gift and bringing me such inspiration, for being my guitar guru, musical
mentor and songwriting sage. peace, respect and a huge tub of b&j's cookie
dough ice cream!

**************
seffy
cod==#
**************

howdee all!!!!

just a quick note to let everyone know that all of the orders that didn't
included any xxl's are in the mail!!!!   which means....the shirts should
begin arriving tomorrow!!!!  i assume that most will arrive on wed and thurs
though...the domestic ones are all gauranteed by thursday...so if you don't
have yours by friday, theres a problem probably...god forbid that happen.
all the international orders were way more expensive than i had thought to
ship.  some skyrocketed to almost $20 for airmail.  all were sent airmail
though....regardless of the extra cost..so that it wouldn't take 2 months for
the shirts to get to the netherlands :)  we just had to dip into what was
extra to get those mailed.
well, i am hoping that the xxl's will arrive today or tomorrow...and then i
shall finish up the stuffing and get those sent.  i tell you what, the postal
workers hated me today!  i went in there...at a busy time...with
7 garbage bags of envelopes!!!  one was all international orders and had to
be sent individually.
i never apologized to so many people at once:)  well, that was the worst
part...the good news is...i should only have another 3 garbage bags or so
with the xxl's: )
anyway,
take care ya'll and be patient!
rob augino
ps. let the list and myself know when you get them and your thoughts!!!!

hey!
first and foremost:  happy birthday!!!!
i'd like to thank you for writing such great songs, that seem to always cheer me
up!!
thanx  also for teaching me how to play guitar  :)  (i still struggle throught
the few solos that i know, but i think i've mastered the 'g' and 'c' chords!!)
just one question:  how many different ways can you play the 'e' chord!!??!!
(that was rhetorical...)
have a happy day!
-moe (simone)
still practicing....

hello gina and all,

i just called the nmsu ticket office and asked about the show.  they said
that it is being negotiated and if confirmed, they should know within 1
to 2 weeks.  as soon as i find out, i'll post the info.  they (the
concert folks) are talking about holding the concert at the student union
on the campus.  and, agreeing with sunny in abq, it has nothing  on paolo
solieri in santa fe but if it's where i am thinking, it's a small venue
and will provide a great deal of intimacy.   also, it's about time we get
great performers like the girls down here.  so, when the info is
available, i'll post it immediately.  also, any nm folks (sunny?)
confirming the santa fe date would be helpful.  until then, happy days,
everyone.

carrie

on fri, 19 jul 1996, gina walters wrote:

> thanks, kris, for posting these new dates!  i may be able to make the las
> cruces show as i will be in nm at that time!  anyway, i was wondering if
> anybody else has heard about this show in las cruces and if anyone knows
> when tickets go on sale.  and, what ticket agency is selling the tickets!
> any help would me much appreciated!  thanks!
>
> -gina
>
> > i haven't seen these dates posted yet.  i found them at:
> > http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epic/tourbyartist.qry?artistid=83
> > 8/25/1996  las cruces, nm  new mexico state university
> > 8/25/1996  santa fe, nm     paolo solieri

hey folks!

guess what happened to me the other day... i upgraded my internet
account,and to my horror discovered that my address book has been wiped!
so... what i need all those on the list who know me to do, is to send a
simple "hi!" so i can re-add you to my list.
sorry to waste the bandwidth.

andrew stokell (rbc31@dial.pipex.com)

oh btw - susie - have you had any luck with the mtv video?

ms. saliers,
just wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the way you've
touched me through your music. i've never heard or seen anyone as talented
and moving as you. thank you for writing the words i feel in my heart. thank
you for putting them to beautiful melodies. thank you for being who you are.
thank you and have a wonderful birthday.

your biggest fan along with everyone else on the list,

jendy

well, once i heard the indigo girls were coming to dallas i forgot about
austin and started trying to find out details on the dallas show.  this has
turned out to be difficult.  the people who book events for artist square
know nothing about the concert.  (arts district friends (214) 953-1977)
according to them, a promoter has not contacted them about doing a show.
strange, but true.

sooooo, to austin i go!! i was still able to get "seated" tickets. amanda
and i will drive down that afternoon and make a flying trip back that night
for her to get to work the next day. i'm sorry we will not be able to go out
with any fellow listers after the show, but would like to meet some of y'all
prior to the show.

i, too, need directions to the backyard. please send directions via private
email so the listers in seattle (and elsewhere) won't have to weed through
unnecessary email. :) thanks!

anxiously awaiting my first ig concert ....
michelle

michelldlr@aol.com

hello all,

happy emily's birthday!  she is definitely my hero, what can i say...
before i get to the igc, please indulge a real quick self-absorbed
announcement. ;) i'm gonna have to make this the last call for plaid album
copies for a while because i'm moving to a different apartment and will be
busy packing and unpacking...  so if you want a copy of my tape, can you
drop it in the mail by =wednesday= to me with a stamped return envelope?
address: me at 704 campus drive #13c, stanford, ca 94305.  [last week's
batch is going out _today_, i promise!] or hey, if you're lazy you can
pick up the phone and order it (as well as the new demo e.p.) from
rainy day records at (800)636-6166! *grin*

okay, enough self-aggrandizement! back to our regularly scheduled
program, as i hold my breath hoping that a san francisco date will get
added on their tour in the five days between the mesa and seattle gigs...

now for the igc, i keep forgetting to ask this...  does anyone else listen
to "cut it out" and start singing rem's "oddfellows local 151"  along with
it?  that guitar part is really dang close to what peter buck plays on
151.  i just had to laugh reading the interview carolyn typed in a few
days ago, where amy said she doesn't listen to much rem anymore, but she
finds herself accidentally stealing their melodies! =)  remember amy, the
quote from our friend stravinsky: "a good composer borrows, a great
composer steals."  i -love- that one, because if you get paranoid about
not sounding like other musicians you'll completely paralyze your own
creativity, so i say go for it amy, go the whole nine yards, sing
"cut it out --- cut it all out --- firehouse --- firehouse!"  better yet,
have michael sing "firehouse" in the background as a harmony, works really
nicely! =)

peace, love, and many more happy emily birthdays,

scot

scot ninnemann - scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu - http://tjwww.stanford.edu/scot
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"whatever you do may seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do
it." -- gandhi "'this is your year' and 'it always starts here,' and oh,
'you're aging well.'" -- dar williams "playing music is not really something
you choose to do. if it's in you, you have no choice." -- emily saliers
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sorry to bring the list down with redundant info.. but i had to sign off
for a couple of weeks due to travel and missed/lost the nh show details.
would someone please send me date, place, number to call for the show...
thanks ! sue

the xxl's got here today...i am off to work and i will stuff them tomorrow
evening! they should hit the mail on wed!
take care
rob

at 07:54 am 7/22/96 cdt, you wrote:
>i also thought that a&e would have been the perfect musical performers at
>the opening. although gladys knight was great singing "georgia on my mind"
>but what would have certainly been better would have been our indigo girls
>singing "midnight train to georgia".

i was thinking the _exact_ same thing during that song!!! woah... guess we
ig'ers(???) think alike!

tiff

     ------------------------:) h. a. n. d.! (:---------------------------
     hey y'all, come see....       |maybe you squandered big bucks in your
         my web page!!!!           |lifetime, now i have to pay.-emily saliers
   be sure to sign the guestbook!  |this world was meant for me, don't bury
    http://home.ptd.net/~slugger   |me.  carry me.  --amy ray
     --------------------------------------------------------------------

hey y'all, to all of you guys who posted happy birthday wishes to em...
would y'all like it if i kinda put them all together in a little letter type
thing with all your messages included, printed it out, and sent it to
her(snail mail)? what do ya think of dat idea? go or no-go? lemme know!
(hey, a rhyme!!) i promise it'll be cool... :o)

tiff

happy birtday to emily!!!

i have to say, emily is a really cool person.  i was lucky enough to
meet her at eddie's attic when i went down to atlanta pride last month.
she was very nice and i felt very relaxed talking to her.  this was the
same feeling i got from her when we first met in april 1995 in burlington
vt after a show.  emily was very welcoming, chatted for a bit and she
even posed for a photo with me and a friend.

i hope emily has a great day with her friends and family, she deserves it!
can't wait until newport and hampton beach to see the girls in action again!

take care and peace!

-deb

on mon, 22 jul 1996, tiffany wrote:

> at 07:54 am 7/22/96 cdt, you wrote:
> >i also thought that a&e would have been the perfect musical performers at
> >the opening. although gladys knight was great singing "georgia on my mind"
> >but what would have certainly been better would have been our indigo girls
> >singing "midnight train to georgia".
>
> i was thinking the _exact_ same thing during that song!!! woah... guess we
> ig'ers(???) think alike!
>
> tiff
>

you know, i was thinking the same thing during the opening ceremony.  and
then i realized something - midnight train to georgia is about a person
who, full of dreams and hopes, sells his own car, moves to la and after
failing to achieve those dreams, returns home to put his life back
together (albeit with someone who loves him enough to drop everything she
has to follow him).  this just doesn't seem to be the message that the
olympics are trying to send.  how would it sound to say the following
during the opening ceremony:
        "well he sure found out the hard way that dreams don't always
come true"
        "...a superstar, but he didn't get far..."
just my humble opinion.

steve

ps. i still want to see them play the closing ceremony--the organizing
committee can still redeem themselves!

alright, i have started to compile all of the birthday wishes that everyone
has posted already. please, if you are going to send along a b-day greeting
to em, i need you to send it to me asap, so that it can be sent out in the
mail no later than wed(her birthday _is_ today, so we dont want it to be too
late) and im going on vacation thurs. i encourage you to send something in,
but please hurry! thanks y'all!

tiff

ok, now time for a stupid question. i have never been to see the
girls(sigh. but i will soon!) but y'all who have, how do you get to talk to
them? do you get backstage passes or what?? can someone let me in on the
secret? :)
thanks
tiff

is anyone interested in receiving more information on honor the earth and
honor the earth merchandise, 1995 ig hte tour merchandise, et c. send me
your snail mail address--
you can reach me at omi@dexmn.com
check out our website at http://www/honorearth.com
thanks and take care
peace, russ

hello fellow listees ...

i know there are a few natalie fans out there, so i'm writing to let you all
know i have a boot of her concert last night in wallingford, ct ... if anyone
wants a copy, e-mail me ...

chris

this is kind of a dumb question for someone who's been an ig fan for
several years, but what exactly is the pronunciation of emily's last
name? for some reason i always assumed it was sa-leers, but then i was
just listening to blue food last night, and amy said it a couple times
and pronounced it sale-yurs. of course amy would know better than i
would, but i thought maybe some of you had wondered also...

thanks for listening to my ignorance... amy

> i shall check my information (as the official lackey to the
> goddess) and determine that... <drum role>... it appears that ... uh-oh...
> kim - this'll crack you up... the next scheduled song is dead man's
> hill!!!!! bahahahahahahaahaha!!! dare we dredge fred mann up again??? (1200
> ig-l voices can be heard screaming "noooooo!")

in the shower i had wysteria in my head (from tuesday's children or the b
band, i don't recollect) and it came out as "diptheria, are your lips
still lily white" or something. i don't actually know anything about the
disease or its symptoms, but can anyone continue this?

yom hu'ledet sameach,
yom hu'ledet sameach,
yom hu'ledet sameach l'emily,
yom hu'ledet sameach.

aaaaaannnnnnnnddddddddddd:

feliz cumpleanos a ti,
feliz cumpleanos a ti,
feliz cumpleanos a emily,
feliz cumpleanos a ti.

although in both hebrew and spanish there are cooler songs that native
speakers sing, but my spanish prof didn't write it down for us. maybe by
amy's next birthday i'll know portuguese too. :)
love,
karey

to ig in the americus georgia area or those that are interested in a great volunteer
experience. found this on the mac evangelista list. i know that this is one of the
organizations that ig supports.

marian

this was posted by:
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need a change of pace?
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others, then hfhi may be the place for you.

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--
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international english exchange
the esl forum
http://www.vii.com/~iex/
iex@vii.com

well, i got home from camp this afternoon and it's good to be hooked up to
the list again, but at the same time, i'm having a horrible time adjusting
to being back. for me, camp has always been one of the warmest, most
sheltered coccoons of happiness that i've known, and leaving it is
heart-wrenching. i said hurried goodbyes to so many people who made up my
camp family over the past month, and the seperation is simply to much for me
to bear at the moment. i know it will get easier as time goes on, it always
does, but for now, i'm miserable, and in the process, i'm making my parents
miserable. on the upside, the good part of being back to civilization is
being back on the list, i've missed having people to talk indigo with. there
was pleanty of indigo girls going down at my camp, but it was all scaled
down compared to our love and devotion for them. (the indigo girls are
basically a fad thing there, which makes for some devoted fans, but they are
often lost in the crowd.) thank you to everyone who sent me boots at camp,
they were the most wonderful type of package one could receive. one
interesting indigo-related happening included my access to the broadcasting
camp radio station, (when i got to operate it, anyone listening in northern
wisconsin could've tuned in to an indigo girls marathon hosted by yours
truly.) it was definately in order, seeing as where i live, i have yet to
find a local station that will play indigo girls music on request. anyhow,
i don't know if i'll be able to plow through a month's worth of indigo
indeces since i was unsubscribed, so i'm hoping someone might be so kind as
to fill me in on what i missed (how did atlanta pride go, any more tour
dates announced, tidbits of intrest, etc.) my friend said that she was
watching vh1 one day in late june when all of a sudden, amy & emily popped
up in an interview, but it was over before she could tape it. wondering if
anyone else saw it. ok, well i'll be posting again soon, just wanted to say
i'm back, for better or worse.

peace, love, and all things indigo,

abigail

happy birthday emily!!

i think i know who you had in mind when you sang the lyrics "you just stick
the right formula in, a solution for every fool...the hardest to learn was
the least complicated"--my 12th grade ap calculus class. fits in perfectly
with the case of the crazies we had over the ap exam!

the song really rocks my mathematical world. and i did pass the exam.

again, happy birthday! you truly are a gift to the world.

mary :)

<<sorry, this might be a repost but i got a message saying that the
"recipient's mailbox was full." is there a limit?>>

well i'm in shock!  i go down to atlanta for a few days, do the rdr thing,
the emory thing, and of course 5-points.  then i get back to good old nh
and there's a concert!  and a small venue at that - 2 days in a row!  so i
have tickets for me and my sister and probably my dad (don't worry he's a
fan and it's the only way i'm going since they probably won't round up my
17.5 years).  anyway, i was wondering if anything had come about regarding
the table situation.  i'm definitely interested if a reservation is
possible.  also, i never heard what time the show is at or if there's an
opener.  any recommendation on how far in advance to get there?  i'm about
an hour away if i can be of any assistance and should be able to head out
by 3 or 4 that day.  anyway, that's my situation so if anything comes about
please post or let me know.  thanks in advance and also a big thank you for
the list 'cause i would have never found out about the show without it.
less than a month! :)
thanks again!
-sarah

sarah wardrop

every single order is in the mail! i will hit the post office in the
morning!
take care, enjoy, and let us know what you think when you get them!
rob

hi ya'll!  for all of you out there who missed out on the deadline..and are
cringing...i have some good news!!!!  i have a few extras.
i purposely ordered a few extras of each size for the latecomers and
thensome.  well, i haven't received all the orders from the latecomers and so
i am assuming they aren't going to send them in. hence, the remaining shirts
are up for grabs!!
quantaties are very limited...ie, 6(4 were printed on naturals and not on
organics) larges remain, 9 xl's, and 1 xxl.

they will go on a first come first serve basis.  please email me asap!  with
all your information...especially what size you want.  if you tell me you are
going to send your order...please do so, for i am going to hold the shirt for
you.
i believe these are going to go fast...
i need to get your orders fast!!!!  i leave in three weeks for ecuador!!!!
email me now!!!!
take care
rob

hello and happy birthday and a story i don't mind sharing in honor of it.i
have listened to your music for years...mainly in route to work as i travel
quite a bit.singing away,developing harmonies and thinking about my life and
unresolved bits and pieces.that was until last year...when i was singing
away at the top of my voice and found myself at the new mexico/texas border
just as the sun was coming up.i realized in a split second that you had
traveled this road and gone somewhere to sing the very song keeping me awake
and that even in our differances that we were the same...just trying to do
our job on this planet and shine like a light in the dark.since then i have
had great comfort in knowing you were out there and this birthday note is to
let you know that i see you and stuggle daily to remember to keep being seen
myself.and even if we never meet i recognize how hard it is to sustain this
light and admire you already for it.happy birthday ms.emily and remember one
more candle just makes you shine brighter.........not a fan..just a friend..
.

laura
belle lampe

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date:         tue, 23 jul 1996 01:25:36 -0400
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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isnt it a solution for everything not for every fool??
hugs anthony van pyre

on mon, 22 jul 1996, mary kushman wrote:

> happy birthday emily!!
>
> i think i know who you had in mind when you sang the lyrics "you just stick
> the right formula in, a solution for every fool...the hardest to learn was
> the least complicated"--my 12th grade ap calculus class.  fits in perfectly
> with the case of the crazies we had over the ap exam!
>
> the song really rocks my mathematical world.  and i did pass the exam.
>
> again, happy birthday!  you truly are a gift to the world.
>
> mary   :)
>
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poooooooooorrrrrrrr janet evans!!!
i cried with her..... :(

peace & warm fuzzies,
victoria reed

***************what if there were no hypothetical situations?***************

reedv@ziavms.enmu.edu,inet writes:
poooooooooorrrrrrrr janet evans!!!
i cried with her..... :(

=====

yeah, me too. she has been one of my heroes since seoul '88. it makes me very
sad ... i've been depressed the whole day. puts quite a damper on my olympic
spirit -

anna

the french, no doubt, would have no problem with em's name: say-le-yurz which
ends in that delightful gaelic pout with teeth clenched and tiny smile :)

jude :)

"the french don't care what you do, as long as you pronounce it correctly"--
professor higgins, my fair lady

fyi:

y'all knew that joan was in cahoots with amy and emily. but check out joan's
new live album. she does a cover of "welcome me" as well as sings some old
dylan with the indigo girls on another track. the whole cd is great -- check
it out if you get a chance.

those of us who are receiving cool indigo girls shirts of original design
have rob to thank.  great job at handling so many orders, as well as being
willing to take on such a massive, non-profit venture.   furthermore, you
kept all those who sent you money informed on an almost daily basis.  yours
should be a model of internet commerce.   oh, and nice design!!!

thanks rob!

yes yes yes....please tell. i've always pronounced it as sal-ears.

does anybody know???

thanks,
- jen hall
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from queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>, on 7/22/96 7:13 pm:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

thanks for listening to my ignorance... amy

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from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: emily's name
x-to:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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on tue, 23 jul 1996, jennifer hall wrote:

> yes yes yes....please tell. i've always pronounced it as sal-ears.
>
> does anybody know???

i have a friend who is friends with emily's dad, and he pronounces it
sail-yers. or at least that's what she says.

margaret

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from jennifer hall, on 7/23/96 8:12 am:
to: smtp@pcpd hou g1@servers[<juhunter@fdic.gov>]

ohh. i just checked with a caniadian french co-worker - - and his input
was that it is pronounced

sal-yay

apparently, the french don't prounounce the s at the end of words.

any other french folks out there??

so that would possibly mean that emily has some french in her. i guess she
looks like she has french heritage. fair skinned and all.

what do y'all think?
- jen hall
---------
from "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>, on 7/23/96 8:12 am:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

the french, no doubt, would have no problem with em's name: say-le-yurz
which
ends in that delightful gaelic pout with teeth clenched and tiny smile :)

jude :)

"the french don't care what you do, as long as you pronounce it
correctly"--
professor higgins, my fair lady

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hi... this is a little bit of a delurk for me, but i just had to say....

amy always says emily's last name as "sale-yurs."  it's on watershed and on
the ep and more.  i think amy knows.  now if we really want to get
technical, how do you say cooper's last name?  is it seay as in say?  or as
in see?

these are the questions!

corinne

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date: 7/23/96 7:17am
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       don't worry too much.  janet should have the rest of the field
     eating her wake in the 800.  it is her better event, anyway.  win or
     lose she is a great champion!

carol :-)

reedv@ziavms.enmu.edu,inet writes:
poooooooooorrrrrrrr janet evans!!!
i cried with her..... :(

=====

yeah, me too. she has been one of my heroes since seoul '88. it makes me very
sad ... i've been depressed the whole day. puts quite a damper on my olympic
spirit -

anna

ok guys!  no more requests for the late shirts.  they are all claimed!
to everyone who was fast enough.....
you have one week to get your order to me!  if it is not here by next
tuesday...the shirts are up for grabs again.  i will keep everyone posted.
i can't believe how fast they went!  where was everybody when ordering was
going on?  moments after i sent the message...i had 5 requests for the
leftovers!!!!  and it was like 2am when i sent it!
anyway, i hope i haven't overextended the supply....:) i am trying to please
everyone..  if your order gets returned to you....its because we were out of
shirts:)
anyway, thanks again ya'll!
the chosen ones-----send your orders now!
take care
rob augino
7504 dunbar rd
wilmington, nc 28405

>ohh. i just checked with a caniadian french co-worker - - and his input
>was that it is pronounced
>
> sal-yay
>
>apparently, the french don't prounounce the s at the end of words.

well i always thought it was pronounced bin-cow-ski. the s-a-l-i-e-r and s
are all silent.

deb

>i just called the nmsu ticket office and asked about the show.  they said
>that it is being negotiated and if confirmed, they should know within 1
>to 2 weeks.  as soon as i find out, i'll post the info.  they (the
>concert folks) are talking about holding the concert at the student union
>on the campus.  and, agreeing with sunny in abq, it has nothing  on paolo
>solieri in santa fe but if it's where i am thinking, it's a small venue
>and will provide a great deal of intimacy.   also, it's about time we get
>great performers like the girls down here.  so, when the info is
>available, i'll post it immediately.  also, any nm folks (sunny?)
>confirming the santa fe date would be helpful.  until then, happy days,
>everyone.

    uuuh, did i say 'eat a cockroach'?  uuuh, i meant a rubber cockroach!
yea, yea, that's it--a rubber cockroach.  i am stunned and amazed that such
a concert is even being negotiated.  the student union?  how are the
acoustics?  any other concerts ever been there.  well, if they do play las
cruces it'll sure make a beautiful motorcycle ride down (i have a 1996
honda magna deluxe 750).  nothing for sure on the santa fe date yet,
probably will depend on what happens in las cruces.  don't get me wrong,
i'd love ig to do 2 nm shows.  i am also hoping to catch the mesa, az show
(i need info about this).

--sunny,
who has a very different opinion about cockroaches--they're our friends!

in a message dated 96-07-23 08:41:11 edt, harveybri@aol.com (brian harvey)
writes:

>y'all knew that joan was in cahoots with amy and emily. but check out joan's
>new live album. she does a cover of "welcome me" as well as sings some old
>dylan with the indigo girls on another track. the whole cd is great --
check
>it out if you get a chance.

hey y'all - just wanted to say i caught joan baez doing "welcome me" live at
uno arena in new orleans during jaz fest - it was just incredible. that
whole concert was incredible - to see joan baez singing with ig was downright
spiritual. during joan baez' set, she said that emily and amy refer to her as
"the matriarch", and when they all performed together, she came out and
referred to them as "the whippersnappers". for somebody who was doin'
concert performances the year i was born, baez just keeps going, and going,
and going.... <g>

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from:   abigail[smtp:abaroo@execpc.com]
sent:   monday, july 22, 1996 7:29 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        oh the first days are the hardest days...

>my friend said that she was watching vh1 one day in late june when all=20
>of a sudden, amy & emily popped up in an interview, but it was over =
before >she could tape it. wondering if anyone else saw it. ok, well =
i'll be posting >again soon, just wanted to say i'm back, for better or =
worse.

abigail,

welcome home!

i think i saw the same thing. vh-1 was doing a segment on women =
musicians. played a lot of videos from mariah carey, jane jackson, =
bonnie raitt. but not even one video from indigo girls. and then there =
were amy and emily being asked a question, but it was all over so damned =
quickly, something like 15 seconds of indigo.

then when vh-1 was recently doing their history of music videos over the =
memorial day weekend, i kept waiting for them to play some indigo =
girls, of course they didn't. they did play about 1 hours worth of janet =
jackson (bleeech), about 1/2 worth of billy idol, but not one minute of =
indigo girls. i have pretty much stop watching vh-1 now. if i want to =
watch music videos i just pop in watershed!!

i keep trying to figure out mass public tastes in music. i mean, why is =
hootie and the blowfish so damned popular?? their best song can't hold a =
candle to the least good indigo girls song, and yet they are currently =
massively popular. i don't get it. i mean with hootie, i keep wanting to =
like them. they seem like really nice guys, the music seems pretty up =
beat, but when i listen to it, the music just seems vapid to me.=20

does anyone have any theories as to why groups like hootie get so =
popular and yet amazingly talented and wonderful people like amy & emily =
seem to elude mass popularity in the mainstream world of pop music??

peace y'all,
=20

dan perkins

hey, y'all- i'm brand new to the mailing list, & i was wondering
if someone could give me info about newport- like whether or not tickets
are still available, good places to stay, etc. i know that the deadline
has probably already passes, but i just thought i'd check, anyway. thanks
for you help!
---- flame girl

i've always pronounced it sal-e-urs or sal-yurs. hell, even i'm not sure
anymore! :)

tiff

at 07:31 am 7/23/96 cdt, you wrote:
>yes yes yes....please tell.  i've always pronounced it as sal-ears.
>
>does anybody know???
>
>thanks,
> - jen hall
>-------------
>original text
>>from queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>, on 7/22/96 7:13 pm:
>to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>
>this is kind of a dumb question for someone who's been an ig fan for
>several years, but what exactly is the pronunciation of emily's last
>name? for some reason i always assumed it was sa-leers, but then i was
>just listening to blue food last night, and amy said it a couple times
>and pronounced it sale-yurs. of course amy would know better than i
>would, but i thought maybe some of you had wondered also...
>
>thanks for listening to my ignorance... amy
>
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ok, y'all, this is the final call(woah, another rhyme! im really on a roll!)
for birthday wishes to emily. get them in no later than 10pm tonite so i
can mail them out tomorrow before i go on vacation. thanks bunches!

tiff

ps does anyone know the best place to send this? i was going to send it to
the russell carter management address i found in the 1200 curfews song
thingy, any other suggestions?? all appreciated! thanks

dan perkins wants to know why hootie is so popular.

     to tell you the truth, i don't know.  i tried to like them, too for
     the reasons you laid out: they're pretty upbeat, they seem like nice
     guys, etc., but i just can't seem to buy into them when there is so
     much other, better music to be played (such as ig, of course).

     i will give them this, however; hootie and the blowfish at least
     reference good musicians in their songs on occasion, like nanci
     griffith, and if the ctf rumor is true (god help us all), they chose a
     pretty darn good song to cover.

carol :-)

hi,

just wanted to share with y'all my recent outing to a sting
concert that was fronted by none other than sarah maclachlan!
i can easily say that i could have listened to her all night..
winds were up, stars were out and we were on the lawn of the
amphitheater - i didn't think that downtown toronto could
look so good!  and as big as an ig as i am, i think her
voice is better than either of them (ack!  brace myself for
the barrage of insults about to be thrown my way... ;)
oh yeah, and sting wasn't bad either :)  take care,

denise

about hootie...

i wonder if people like bands like hootie( and, like you said, nothing wrong with hootie), 'cause they don't really want to think about the music they're listening to.  i mean, how much thought goes into "i only wanna be with yoooouuu, oo
?  imho, comparing hootie and the blowfish and indigo girls is sort of like
comparing dr. seuss and robert frost.  they both have their merits, but if
you really want some food for thought you're gonna read frost and not the
'cat in the hat'.  same with hootie (and janet jackson and meriah carey)--
'i wanna take you on an escapade, baby" vs. "mercenaries of the shrine,
now who are you to speak from god...".  'nuff said.

amy

thank you emily,

for sharing yourself with us and for making the world a better place!

happy birthday

love sundara

in message <v01540b0aae1a93c664e7@[151.186.5.88]>you write:
>>ohh. i just checked with a caniadian french co-worker - - and his input
>>was that it is pronounced
>>
>> sal-yay
>>
>>apparently, the french don't prounounce the s at the end of words.
>
>well i always thought it was pronounced bin-cow-ski. the s-a-l-i-e-r and s
>are all silent.
>
>deb

rotfl!!! that's brilliant :d

seriously now,  having lived all of my brief life in quebec, i would
say that sal-yay is right - of course that last y is silent (!), so
it kind of comes out sal-y-eh (as in "how's it going, eh?")  and you
only half pronounce that first y, it's like a mini syllable, half way
between a vowel and a consonant.  bet i've got you all confused now :)
if you'd like, i could try to teach you how to pronounce des moines
or baton rouge too ;)

-sarah

it is the stars,
the stars above us, govern our conditions.
king lear iv,iii,33

it just hit me (ouch!) that emily and bob dole share the same birthday.

yikes,
bon

help me out here a litte---

what were the categories ig were nominated in for grammy awards and what
years?

and what was the name of the label the original strange fire was released
on? or is it just referred to as "indie", or something like that.

i was just thinking about the "power of two" icon by deb reiser on the front
of our shirts. it would make a great official unoffical list logo, or
something, imho! it is really beautiful.

two brain lapses and $0.02,
mary

howdy folks!

i am now waiting for the final few tapes to arrive in the mail for this
compilation. there will be some additions and rearrangements when they
come, and i will keep you all informed on what's going to be on it, but
right now, i was hoping for some input on a title for this mix. here are
some ideas that i've come up with, but i'm open to suggestions:

songs before they were songs
changed fire
nights of passage
a lot of good intentions
the thin horizon of a song is almost clear
these songs (revised)
damn they sounded different
it feels so funny to be pre
least complicated versions

so anyway, i realize that my creativity is not quite at the girls' level,
but tell me what you think. cast your votes!

love, wendell

hey y'all,

i wanna know why ig aren't scheduled to play red rocks. what's up with that?
are there groups already booked in that time slot? inquiring minds want to
know.

--sunny,
petting the cockroach on her lap :)

>it just hit me (ouch!) that emily and bob dole share the same birthday.
>
how completely ironic (and strangely upseting)
trey faison
infinet
customer service department
740 duke street
norfolk, va 23510
tel: 1-800-849-7214
fax: 1-757-623-5425

well, i finally finished my haiku, after slaving away
for many hours. i had a few problems related to those
darn syllable restrictions (5 on the first line, 7 on
the second, 5 on the third), but managed to resolve them
(sort of). anyhow, here she is. enjoy!

callused fingertips
slide on strings of steel. emi
ly, you torment me

envisioning a whole new line of greeting cards,
i-girl

on tue, 23 jul 1996 bonster@alaska.net wrote:

> it just hit me (ouch!) that emily and bob dole share the same birthday.

rotfl! only i bet one of them is a little more upset to be a year
older.. or at least said person's media correspondents are.

margaret

on tue, 23 jul 1996, mary kushman wrote:

> and what was the name of the label the original strange fire was released
> on? or is it just referred to as "indie", or something like that.

indigo records.

margaret

could someone please help me and let me know exactly when and where the
girls have concerts scheduled? having been off the list for so long, i
assumed that they were still off the road, save newport and bumbershoot, but
apparently i'm mistaken. i'm dying to see them but i'm clueless as to where
there mini tour is taking them. all i've been able to find out through the
web is that they have 4 confirmed shows on the east coast (ny, va, nh, & pa)
right after newport. i'd appreciate any knowledge as to where a & e will be
playing. thanks!

~abigail

please share your thoughts on the shirts as they arrive! this will let me
know they are arriving ok, and your opinions!
thanks
rob

larissa,
your aol address is no longer....your shirt is being forfeited if you don't
respond to this message....i have yet to receive your order as promised.
take care
sorry :(
rob

hi all,

jen h. , karen r. and i have been discussing possibly meeting out at the =
backyard on august 20th and having dinner before the ig show. if anyone =
else is interested, let me know. i am going to contact the backyard and =
ask them about how long we should allow to get seated, order, eat and =
all on the night of a concert. we also may be able to get access to the =
concert area directly from the restaurant area, thereby avoiding waiting =
in line! (although i am not certain this is a reality).

i have never eaten dinner at the backyard and don't have any idea of =
prices or what type of food they serve, but i will ask when i contact =
them (so far have only gotten a machine).

anyhow, it might be a nice way to get together before the show. anyone =
interested can e-mail me directly and once i get some info. from the =
backyard i will post it.

peace,

dan perkins

hey all (again...for the 4th time today...something like that?)

what was in my mailbox this morning absolutely made my day.

rob and deb did a beautiful job getting these shirts designed and sent out
to us. the colors are rich, and so is the message the shirt conveys. i
sure do wish all business could be this friendly, informative, prompt, and
honest!

absolutely fabulous y'all.

mary

hey y'all,

  okay, so i don't have to eat a cockroach!  yay.  tickets go on sale
tomorrow for the aug 25 show in santa fe at the paolo soleri.  you can get
them at ticketbastard.  it's a general admission venue so you don't all
have to run.  whay matters is the time you get to the gate the day of the
show.  i'll be there at my usual time: 7 am!  see ya there...

--sunny,
who still thinks cockroaches are nice!

ahl albuquerque hydroponics and lighting
1001 san mateo se
albuqueruqe, nm 87108
1-800-753-4617
http://biz.swcp.com/ahl/ahl.html

hi. just an idea..... maybe we should have a "help! i lost my ig list pal and
can't get up" feature once a week (i'm proposing tuesday). people could email
me who they are looking for and i could do one posting to the list....
it could say something like this:
"hey susan marine! corinne simpson is looking for you to trade your bootleg.
she lost your address. email her at: blahblahblah@yadda.yadda.yadda asap. if
anyone knows of susan's address or whereabouts, email corinne please"

and that way we could cut down on all the "i'm looking for...." shit (which i
am horribly guilty of doing) while at the same time finding lost listers. what
you think?
i usually post at least once to the list every week anyway, so it would be no
big whoop.

let me know. yours in service,
oh! susanna

hey all, sorry to bother you over this, but i was talking to a friend
of mine the other day and she is dying to get her hands on an ani
show from about 2 years ago...if anyone can help me please e-mail
me outside of the list. this friend has done a lot for me recently
and i want to do something for her, and a copy of this particular
show would be perfect!  it was an april 1994 show at bowdoin college,
here in maine...can anyone help?
                   thanks a million!
                              s

>hi. just an idea..... maybe we should have a "help! i lost my ig list pal and
>can't get up" feature once a week (i'm proposing tuesday). people could email
>me who they are looking for and i could do one posting to the list....

that's a really good idea, but then we have to not lose *your* address.
hmmmmm, that might be a tall order ;)

>it just hit me (ouch!) that emily and bob dole share the same birthday.

my god, that *is* a sobering thought! if emily had had any aspirations to be
president of the u.s. she might well have been coming to d.c. but only as a
government worker!

jude :)

"southland in the springtime" may not be the spunkiest song of ig, but it is
definitely one of the most beautiful!  i couldn't have thought of a warmer
song to pay tribute to the south and its treasures, which would have been
perfect for the olympic opening ceremonies.  i love how it paints a true
picture of the south.  only we'd have to change the first line to "maybe we'll
make georgia by the morning" and it may not be spring but it's close enough...

mary :)

hi; apologies for putting this on the list, but hey, what are lists for,
anyway?
-----------

facts: male, medium-sized, young adult, black, not-declawed, uses a litter
box with total expertise. aparrently a house cat (doing great in my small
apartment), though spent the past few weeks or more on the streets. very
skinny, but very very healthy - clean, no skin problems, no fleas, no
coughing, nothing. seems to have come from a very good home. _very_
affectionate, likes to be pet more than life itself. i think it's safe to
say that one could term this cat as "frisky".

locale: st. louis, missouri.

i will drive to great lengths, however, so don't let that sway you at
all. we can always work something out. :-)

i'd keep him in a heartbeat except i have one of "those" landlords.

i'm currently looking for a home, putting up signs to find his original
home, etc., so act while supplies last.

email if you're interested. he could really use a kind soul. thanks!
_
|_ a s e y

well, i think i heard emily say her last name one time at a petb (people for
the
ethical treatment of bovines) conference, and she pronounced it "moo", with a
slightly norwegian accent. seriously, though, my friend knows emily's
father, and i am about 99% sure that you pronounce it sal-yurz (with
appropriate southern drawl--when god made her born a yankee he was
teasin'...). besides, that's how amy pronounces it...=)

peace, love, and 364 days until emily day,
ponygirl

p.s. the real question is this: how do you pronounce amy's last name?
hm...i'll
have to ponder that one for a while...

hi all,

earlier i posted about the possibility of getting together for dinner at =
the backyard before the ig show on august 20th... turns out this would =
probably be a bad idea.

a friend of mine said she went, er tried to, go to dinner at the =
backyard before a concert there and was told there would be at least a =
two hour wait for a table.. obviously this would mean we would have to =
meet at the backyard about 3 or 4 hours before gates opened....

so, perhaps if folks are still interested in getting together for dinner =
before hand, we should do so at a restaurant in austin. i can't really =
think of anything else out by the backyard worth going to. there is a =
chinese place, bubba's texas style chinese food, or something like that, =
but i would be hesitant to eat there.

peace,

dan

it should not surprise anyone that emily saliers & er-a bob dole share the
same birthday. it is common knowledge that emily is a log cabin republican.

peace

bert

speaking of southland in the springtime, i thought it was interesting to
read in a magazine how georgia has fourty some streets named peach tree.
and i always thought "peach trees stitched across the land" was just a
really elegant way of descriing the scenery. seems like emily continues
to amaze me even after years of loving the song. sorry if everyone
already knew about it.

wendell

hi everybody i have a favor to ask...a friend of mine will be traveling and visiting atlanta and the
athens area in august( after the olympics) and will have adequate transportation. since i know some of y'all
attended the atlanta pride this month, i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of places where he can
find ig rare cds for me?!?
where do y'all get your boot cd's!?! in particular history of us, nothing to hide, and club r&r! pls
e-mail me privately so i won't anger listees who don't care about this info!
thanks for everything! (hey sarah!)

in a message dated 96-07-23 11:17:41 edt, dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us (dan
perkins) writes:

>i keep trying to figure out mass public tastes in music. i mean, why is
>hootie and the blowfish so damned popular?? their best song can't hold a
>candle to the least good indigo girls song, and yet they are currently
>massively popular. i don't get it. i mean with hootie, i keep wanting to
like
>them. they seem like really nice guys, the music seems pretty up beat, but
>when i listen to it, the music just seems vapid to me.
>
>does anyone have any theories as to why groups like hootie get so popular
and
>yet amazingly talented and wonderful people like amy & emily seem to elude
>mass popularity in the mainstream world of pop music??
>
>

i have to admit that i love hootie.  i usually cringe at the thought of
buying any cds that are played on the 'top 40' stations or anything that is
considered popular.  but i can't help but love those guys.  i think their
music is definitely folk-rooted, the tunes are really catchy, and that
appeals to people (like me) who are so sick of much of the garbage that is
being played.  if i hear a song on the radio and then immediately can't get
it out of my head for the next couple of days, i know it has something.
that's what happened with hootie, and you gotta love 'em, if only for the
fact that they have performed ig covers at their live shows.  i'm going to
see them play at hershey park on 8/15 (which is why i can't go to the philly
ig show, boo hoo).

i really don't group them in the same category as the other really annoying
bands who seem to have taken over the radio stations.  as for why there
hasn't been more popular demand for the ig, *who the hell knows*.  not that i
don't wish much success for a&e, but i kind of like having them all to myself
; )  i think the general public wants other people such as d.j.s to tell them
what music is good and what music isn't.  generally, people don't like to
explore on their own and discover bands that don't have popular appeal.  this
i don't understand.  thank god there are people in this world like us who
keep the true 'alternative' music alive <tears pouring out>

-sheri : )

happy birthday emily! your words touch my soul, light a small flame, and
then slowly float away on the smoke.....thank you for making the last eight
and a half years of my life so full of truth, honesty, emotion, and fun!
and water retention is not new to me either!!

have a happy birthday! you are great!

peace, love, and thanks y'all!

karrie

hey y'all-

so, vh-1 has done their duty....and here we are, punishing hootie.

i happen to like hootie and the blowfish. of course, i never listen to the
radio, and i only watch vh-1 and mtv if, like, bob dole is on tv or something,
but i think they have a really good sound.....now, granted the lyrics are a
little cheesy, most pop and adult comtemporary lyrics are, but other songs
on cracked rear view have a some depth to them....

"let her cry" i think, is one of the most insightful songs to come from the
likes of ac radio in a while....especially hit here hard because my ex
boyfriend is an alcoholic and drug addict....the words talked to me a lot.
"hold my hand" is top 40, but so what?  i mean, i love my music, and god
knows, i am the spokesperson for angst-ridden people of america, but do we
always have to wallow in sadness, angst, and hidden meaning in music?  how
about once in a while, we just sit back, and enjoy music for what it is....
entertainment?  sometimes, i just like to turn up the radio, roll the
windows down, cruise the beach, and listen to some jammin' tunes...."hold my
hand", "closer to fine", "hammer and a nail", "running with an angel" (hootie),
and other acoustic sounding bands, like blues traveler, dave matthews, and
counting crows.  i guess i just happen to like acoustic sounding stuff with
rock and roll, and while the ig happen to be at the top of my list of this
kind of genre, there are other bands that have the sound as well.....

and trust me, i am by no means some top 40/adult contemporary lover.....i wish
joan osborne, jewel, and other so-called "new talent?" would go away....give
me hootie any day...at least darius can sing.

any way you look at it, acoustic guitars, a good beat, and a touch from south
of the mason dixon line can make me smile.

no flaming intended...just mho.

peace-

karrie

"out in the country..."
-kristen hall

in a message dated 96-07-23 18:45:23 edt, you write:

<< well, i think i heard emily say her last name one time at a petb (people
for
the
ethical treatment of bovines) conference, and she pronounced it "moo", >>

ahhh.... so you're saying that emily said "moo".....

stirrin' it up,
james dean's stunt double

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of the week)

someone posted on teh ig news group about available two day
passes for newport, available at face value of $55. if you
are still looking, contact qweeen@aol.com for more info.

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

hey y'all,

so the sony website had two ig shows listed for 8/25 at two different nm
venues (which had been pointed out on the list) - and there i am viewing
the obvious error and wondering when, where, and how often ig will be
playing here and i notice sony's email web link and decide to go for it.
well, here's the reply i got... doesn't really clear up the confusion,
but still nice to know that there's a real live person at the other end
of the corporate website. on the other hand, what are they actually
saying - "it wasn't my fault, the fax did it"??

peace,
donna

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: 23 jul 96 13:02:36
from: epic records <epic_records@sonymusic.com>
to: donna2 <donna2@unm.edu>
subject: indigo girls error

thanx for the help! we'll correct it as soon as we obtain correct information
(i think that that error was actually on the fax that we received, and we just
ended up putting it into thesite anyway. )

carol wrote:

>     i will give them this, however; hootie and the blowfish at least
>      reference good musicians in their songs on occasion, like nanci
>      griffith, and if the ctf rumor is true (god help us all), they
> chose a
>      pretty darn good song to cover.

it is truly true. it's on an import cd single and they do a couple
of ctf verses in the middle of the live version of i only wanna b
with u (the old man & me single).

i found it in some hole in the wall funky cd place. it's not too bad
actually. hope you didn't catch too many flames for dissing hootie!

ann, who is still shaking her head over getting slighly flamed for
slightly dissing tiny tim...... :)

i was wondering the same thing and came up with a theory that may or may
not be correct... red rocks seats 10,000, and maybe they only wanna play
smaller venues since this isn't really a real tour kind of tour, but a
"demo" tour? that make sense? it sounds good to me - unless of course
some of the other demo tour venues are larger:)

peace,
donna

p.s. sunny, feeling hungry:)

on tue, 23 jul 1996, sunny wrote:

> hey y'all,
>
>    i wanna know why ig aren't scheduled to play red rocks.  what's up with that?
> are there groups already booked in that time slot?  inquiring minds want to
> know.
>
>                         --sunny,
>          petting the cockroach on her lap  :)
>
> --
> administrative requests should not be sent to the list!
> to unsubscribe, send email to listserv@netspace.org
>         with the line: signoff indigo-girls
>

in a message dated 96-07-23 11:17:46 edt, dan the man writes:

>does anyone have any theories as to why groups like hootie get so popular
and
>yet amazingly talented and wonderful people like amy & emily seem to elude
>mass popularity in the mainstream world of pop music??

chicks dig 'em ;)

binky

mmedido@aol.com wrote:
>
> in a message dated 96-07-23 11:17:46 edt, dan the man writes:
>
> >does anyone have any theories as to why groups like hootie get so popular
> and
> >yet amazingly talented and wonderful people like amy & emily seem to elude
> >mass popularity in the mainstream world of pop music??
>
> chicks dig 'em ;)
>
> binky

hey binky!

a couple of us guys dig'em toooo!!!! ;-)

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

"im looking for someone who can take as much as i give...
...and to give as much as i need."

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you know, it seems to me that the masses are afraid to show anyone (let
alone themselves) their personal side. their secret desires, loves,
weaknesses, etc... basically they are afraid of releasing their own
feelings. it seems to this fan that a & e do just this, with their
wonderfully insightful writing. they pour so much of themselves out into
their music. so if the masses are uncomfortable having to think about
their own feelings, they will most certainly have the same reaction when
listening to a & e's. i think the masses want something catchy that
doesn't force them to deal with the issues going on inside their head.

so in a way indigo girls fans seem to be a cut above the rest, by being
in touch with themselves more than the average joe/joanne.

imho

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

"im looking for someone who can take as much as i give...
...and to give as much as i need."

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this is kinda ig related as its about gays but it isnt really about the
girls but i htought u al lmight wanna see it hugs anthony van pyre
seems this diddnt comne through like it shoudl have if the list readers
want ill attatch it to a letter

7/8/96, 6:33 pm et

candace gingrich, 07/01

moderator (speaker)

welcome to prodigy spotlight! tonight's guest is candace gingrich, human rights and gay and lesbian activist, and half-sister of newt gingrich. this is the time to begin submitting your questions to candace. we will begin posting your answered questions
at 10pm et, so stay with us and we'll preview our spotlight guest.

moderator (speaker)

good evening, candace, and welcome to prodigy spotlight! it is a pleasure to chat with you tonight and are looking forward to your responses and views. members, please help us welcome candace gingrich!

candace gingrich (speaker)

it's good to speak to you all through the wonders of cyberspace! i hope that you realize what an important election year this is. i'll try to answer as many of your questions as i can tonight.

mickeydolenz (prodigy member)

how old were you and newt when you were both living under the same roof as half-brother and half-sister?

candace gingrich (speaker)

never. he was already married and had his first child before i was even born.

direct hit (prodigy member)

today's n.y. daily news ran an article that talked about your upcoming book, the accidental activist. it says you portray newt as a stinky old bully who wouldn't let you into his room. is this accurate?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i've never referred to my brother as "a stinky old bully," and we never even lived in the same house together. so i'm not even sure i knew where his room was!

cyberslider (prodigy member)

the article in today's new york daily news said that you'd tried the straight life briefly, by dating a black man named frosty. why do you think you did that?

candace gingrich (speaker)

well, at the time i was in junior high school, and i think that at that age, i was just doing what everyone else was doing. i liked him more than any of the other boys at school. and when you're good friends, you just, you know, go steady! his name was ro
bert frost.

plerky (prodigy member)

were you jealous or resentful of newt while you were growing up? why?

candace gingrich (speaker)

the phrase sibling rivalry doesn't even seem accurate, since we've never even lived in the same house together. but i must say it's hard to live in a house where the most talked about person is someone you never even got a chance to really know.

elbow'avo'oo (prodigy member)

when did you first realize that you were gay?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i first acknowledged it when i was 20, but prior to that had feelings of being "different," but didn't quite know what that was. by the way, i'm now 30.

spicy fries (prodigy member)

how is being gay effected you're life?

candace gingrich (speaker)

it took me a lot longer to feel that i truly knew who i was, and feel like a complete person. most youth see images and references to only heterosexual adults. this lack of acknowledgment of gay and lesbian people made it that much harder to recognize mys
elf.

sammyseacow (prodigy member)

good evening candace!

candace gingrich (speaker)

i hope you're registered to vote, sammy! and if not, please do!

direct hit (prodigy member)

during his adolescent years, did newtie look anything like the original pugsley from "the adams family"?

candace gingrich (speaker)

(lots of laughing!) actually no. the photos of him i've seen in his boy scout uniform, he's your typical wiry kid.

njdevil69 (prodigy member)

candace, it's a slow night in here tonight and i'm not much for politics! but, i have to hand it to you sticking up for the rights of the people that are considered not the norm...does it become difficult at times standing for what you believe in??

candace gingrich (speaker)

actually, i think that once you realize you are capable of doing it, it's the easiest thing in the world. i can't imagine a more rewarding type of work.

eam23 (prodigy member)

what is the legal status of same sex marriages and when do you think the law legalizing this will be enacted?

candace gingrich (speaker)

in no state in our country right now is same-sex marriage legal. one state, hawaii, is examining it in the courts right now, and will probably decide it in a few years.

ray bourque (prodigy member)

i am only a teen, but i heard about you. i am a musician and in the music business there are more gay people. when it comes to business and if a person is gay, though i don't like the act of homo-sexuality i think, they aren't doing anything to me, all i
have to do is get the music gig done and it doesn't have to become a friendship. the you are involved politically this all comes down to gay rights. i do not think that a gay person should get involved in a strait persons life and spread a disease.

candace gingrich (speaker)

as far as jobs go, all that we ask for is to be judged based on the work that we do. you don't necessarily have to approve of us to realize that we can do a good job. and actually, ray, the "diseases" you're referring to are something that exist and need
to be dealt with, and people need more accurate information about them.

lookn2my i'z (prodigy member)

before i met my best friend, i am a straight woman and she is a lesbian, i was quite unaware and unconcerned even, about gay rights. i have now become quite aware of the struggles she deals with . . . what is it that we, as heterosexuals, can do to help
your movement?

candace gingrich (speaker)

it's important that you are able to come out as a non-gay supporter in our fight for equal rights. the newsweek poll a few weeks ago showed that 84 percent of americans support equal rights in the workplace. we need everyone's voice, particularly in the v
oting booth, to have this message heard.

direct hit (prodigy member)

was newt's chair always higher than everyone else's at the dinner table?

candace gingrich (speaker)

(laughing) you'd have to ask mom that one!

snapping (prodigy member)

what was your opinion of the connie chung incident?

candace gingrich (speaker)

it certainly taught our whole family a quick lesson in media training. the golden rule is that the microphone is always on.

ctpiranha (prodigy member)

ms. gingrich, how do you feel about gay and lesbian portrayals in the media? did you appear on "friends" to send a political message?

candace gingrich (speaker)

portrayals in the media have vastly improved in the past few years. you now see accurate reflections of gay and lesbian americans--working, having long-term, committed relationships, raising children--not the usual stereotypes of the past. i appeared on f
riends, in my mind, to thank them for their accurate portrayal, and maybe they were in turn thanking me for the work that i had been doing.

amat psyc (prodigy member)

i watched an interview with you on tv a few months ago with i can't remember who.. anyway, i thought you were great!! does your brother talk to you now?? and how does your mother feel about the whole thing? is she also a republican like newt?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i spoke briefly with my brother when i saw him last, when he guest-hosted larry king live. mom is a republican, but she is still a mom, and is proud of, and supports and loves, both of us.

amat psyc (prodigy member)

i am a lesbian parent of a 2 year old boy and wanted to know what i can do to fight discrimination against gays and lesbians as parents? a very sensitive issue all over, but even more so in the south.

candace gingrich (speaker)

i would become active in your community, just as non-gay parents would. join the pta, be part of commissions, run for the school board. if that's not an option, at least keep an open dialog with elected officials who make decisions that affect your family
.

ctpiranha (prodigy member)

ms. gingrich, can you please come to shawnee high school in medford, nj? it's a republican stronghold and it *really* needs a shot of liberalism and fairness for homosexuals.

candace gingrich (speaker)

i am currently touring the country for the voter mobilization project of the human rights campaign. visit our web site, and you can e-mail me there. it's http://www.hrcusa.org

spicy fries (prodigy member)

what does newt think of you?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i know that he is proud of my accomplishments in the same way that i'm proud of his. i'm happy for him, but not necessarily happy about what he's doing.

sammyseacow (prodigy member)

are you and newt friends?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i'd have to probably describe our relationship as close acquaintances before i would say friends. i don't know if i've spent enough time with him.

tuvok 2 (prodigy member)

what is newt gingrichs' stand on gay rights?

candace gingrich (speaker)

not a very positive one. he has repeated things that are stereotypes and misconceptions about gays and lesbians, and he also condones the discrimination we face in our country.

flake1 (prodigy member)

who will you vote for in the coming election for president?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i will be voting for the candidate who has been the most supportive president that we've ever had, and the candidate who at least has the capability to be educated about our issues. i'm a strong supporter of the clinton-gore ticket.

mr magneto (prodigy member)

how do you get through to people? what do you do to get their attention, and you can't just tell people what to believe and not to believe. how do you make people know what's right?

candace gingrich (speaker)

well, i think that every individual has to decide for themselves what is right. what we're asking for is really just to be treated equally, and one of the ways to do that is to help educate people to the realities of the discrimination that we face. in 41
states, you can be fired just for being gay, regardless of your job performance. and you have no legal recourse.

pooponme (prodigy member)

ms. gingrich: do you get made fun of a lot because you are a lesbian?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i'm sure it's a possibility, but the only funny thing i'm aware of was a great skit on saturday night live. it was with chris farley playing newt, and i think david spade played me. it was a reenactment of a press conference on newt's balcony, with he and
i and my imaginary, snl-induced "girlfriend"!

harry the k (prodigy member)

how do you feel about the circumstances in which representative gingrich left his first wife?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i think that it's unfortunate when any family is unable to work things out.

stamp (prodigy member)

do you have a lover?

candace gingrich (speaker)

yes i do. her name is kris, and we've been together for a year.

kinetictouch (prodigy member)

mrs. gingrich while i admire your efforts on our behalf do you honestly feel that you would have been chosen to lead the gay pride parade in chicago if you weren't newt gingrich's sister?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i think that we all have opportunities in life, and must decide whether or not to take them. my relationship to my brother gave me a chance to realize my potential as an activist, and to fight for something that i believe in.

italian lova (prodigy member)

hello, i wanted to know what made you decide to become a lesbian? i have bi friends that are women and i have a few lesbian friends but i can't stand gay guys. they are just sick to me.. i am a 19 year old male from cal..

candace gingrich (speaker)

i don't remember ever choosing to become a lesbian. do you remember when you chose to be a straight guy? i would hope that you would try to respect all people, regardless of their orientation.

truesounds (prodigy member)

what inspired you to be active in the gay and lesbian area?

candace gingrich (speaker)

the changes that took place in '94 in our u.s. congress motivated me to realize that i couldn't expect that there would always be someone else to do the work for me. when i came out nationally, i realized how powerful the act of coming out was, in helping
to turn ignorance into understanding.

arcteck (prodigy member)

do you think gays will ever be fully accepted by everyone?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i'd like to hope that there will come a day when everyone is accepted, regardless of who they are. but until that day, i would hope that all people realize that we at least deserve to be treated equally, in all aspects of society.

ray bourque (prodigy member)

do you think your gay and lesbian group role plays a part in the way people think of newt?

candace gingrich (speaker)

some people may not appreciate his position on gay rights when they realize he has a sister who is a lesbian.

ctpiranha (prodigy member)

ms. gingrich, do you believe bob dole left the senate to distance himself from your half-brother? if so, do you believe it was a smart move?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i think that mr. dole wanted to distance himself from his job to embark on a fresh new start. it was probably a number of things that inspired him to do that.

frog kermit (prodigy member)

did you vote for newt???

candace gingrich (speaker)

i am not a constituent in his district, and never have been, so no.

aectac (prodigy member)

do you support the trans gender community as well as the gay community, and how so?

candace gingrich (speaker)

hmmm... i support the work that organizations such as the it's time america coalition, as well as the transexual menace. they have realized the need for all of us to take the fight to the politicians, and have learned to fight their discrimination through
the legislatures.

ray bourque (prodigy member)

do you dislike dole because of his dislike for gay people?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i don't know the man personally, but certainly, not realizing that i deserve the same rights and protections as non-gay people would make it an uphill battle for me to say i like him.

harry the k (prodigy member)

do you and representative gingrich have the same mother or father?

candace gingrich (speaker)

we have the same mother, but my biological father adopted newt when he married my mom. at the time, newt was about two years old. i came along some twenty years later.

kinetictouch (prodigy member)

ms. gingrich, do you feel that the so called "contract with america" led by your brother is really responsive or even inclusive to the gay community?

candace gingrich (speaker)

it certainly wasn't friendly to our community, but it's nothing compared to the way gays and lesbians are being used currently, as scapegoats in this election year.

hockeymaniac (prodigy member)

what is it really like to be newt's daughter?

candace gingrich (speaker)

well, you'd have to ask one of them! i'm newt's sister.

ess'sence (prodigy member)

candace....are you trying to hurt your brother's political career? it sure seems like it.

candace gingrich (speaker)

the majority of the work that i do is speaking to people around the country about the power we have as americans to effect and influence our own government. my brother happens to be in the minority when it comes to gay issues. for instance, most americans
don't believe it's right that gays and lesbians can be fired just for being gay. we need to get that majority of americans to the polls.

gj 34 m (prodigy member)

candace, will you vote for bob dole?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i happen to be a card-carrying democrat. and even if i weren't, i would still vote for the candidate who has proven himself to be a supporter of our fight for equal rights.

ciara16nj (prodigy member)

what impact do you feel you have had on the views of your family?

candace gingrich (speaker)

well, i believe that most of my family has gotten a chance to be educated about gay and lesbian issues through me. this education is paramount to helping people realize who we really are, and what it is we're really asking for. if someone doesn't know abo
ut something, their tendency is to fear that.

xsilverone x (prodigy member)

are you presently living with anyone?

candace gingrich (speaker)

no i am not.

the ridge (prodigy member)

how can we persuade the president to veto the same sex marriage act?

candace gingrich (speaker)

there are many ways that you can contact the president to tell him of your feelings on the veto. i know for a fact that he does have an e-mail address, and it's available through our web site at http://www.hrcusa.org. it's your duty to let the people who
make laws in our country know how you feel about these issues.

browneyewmn (prodigy member)

when did you tell newt that you were a lesbian and how did he respond??

candace gingrich (speaker)

actually, it was our mom who told him. according to her, he told her that it was my life, and i had the right to live it the way that i wanted to.

do and me (prodigy member)

as a washington insider, why do you think clinton has promised to sign the defense of marriage act? it seems he's risking more votes by alienating gays than trying to sway the religious right.

candace gingrich (speaker)

i'm sure the president believed he was doing the right thing by announcing this, but we should not overlook the number of things that he has done for our community. if we allow this one issue to affect our support for him, we are, in a sense, capitulating
to the extremists who made this an issue.

sweetness41 (prodigy member)

candace, i have not followed the gay/lesbian issues too closely but i can only imagine what some of them are. could you briefly give us a rundown of the 5 top issues that you are dealing with?

candace gingrich (speaker)

the human rights campaign have been working on three main issues in the 104th congress: fighting anti-gay legislation, working to pass pro-gay legislation, and renewing america's commitment to fighting aids. the marriage issue is also one that we are work
ing on, and the education process is never-ending.

goldtop (prodigy member)

do lesbians view gay men as a turn on? i've found that lesbianism is a turn on for most men?

candace gingrich (speaker)

no, i believe lesbians who are turned on by men are called bisexuals. i am emotionally and physically attracted to only women.

ciara16nj (prodigy member)

if you could change one thing in the world what would it be?

candace gingrich (speaker)

i would help the people of the world understand that all humans, regardless of their unique characteristics, are worthy and deserving of respect and equal treatment.

candace gingrich (speaker)

i've enjoyed talking with everyone from across america tonight. i hope that you join me in becoming politically involved this year, and help us get this country headed in the right direction again. we should not be intimidated by politics. if you'd like t
o learn more about campaign work, please join us in chicago on august 16, 17 and 18, for the human rights campaigns (outvote '96). it will be a weekend full of campaign skill training, but also the fun of a convention. please visit our web site for more i
nformation, at http://www.hrcusa.org

candace gingrich (speaker)

thanks and good night everyone!

moderator (speaker)

thank you for sharing an evening with our prodigy members and discussing so many current and important issues in the news. good luck to you in your fight for equal rights! we hope that you will visit us again. goodnight everyone.

18:25et

hi folks,

went to see the celluloid closet a couple of nights ago - if you haven't
heard of it it's a highly entertaining documentary about gays in the movies
- fabulous, funny and eye opening - highly recommend going see it if you
get the chance. and yes, for a fleeting second you do get to see the right
half (is there a wrong half?) of amy ray, up there on the big screen, in a
clip from bots!

a couple of friends of mine recently returned from prague raving about a new
suzanne vega video that kept being played on tv. they think it's called
caramel, or has caramel in the lyric...kinda jazzy - ends in a wonderful
chord that apparently i would love...they've asked in loads of record shops
with no success...anyway, i was extolling the virtues of the internet and
promised them an answer within 48 hours, so help me out here guys! does
anyone know about it?

seffy

in message wed, 24 jul 1996 09:34:48 bst,
rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk> writes:

> hi folks,
>
> went to see the celluloid closet a couple of nights ago - if you haven't
> heard of it it's a highly entertaining documentary about gays in the
> movies - fabulous, funny  and eye opening -  highly recommend going see
> it if you get the chance.  and yes, for a fleeting second you do get to
> see the right half (is there a wrong half?) of amy ray, up there on the
> big screen, in a clip from bots!
>
> a couple of friends of mine recently returned from prague raving about a
> new suzanne vega video that kept being played on tv. they think it's
> called caramel, or has caramel in the lyric...kinda jazzy - ends in a
> wonderful chord that apparently i would love...they've asked in loads of
> record shops with no success...anyway, i was extolling the virtues of the
> internet and promised them an answer within 48 hours, so help me out here
> guys!  does anyone know about it?
>
> seffy
>the song is on a soundtrack to a movie that came out here in the states
not long ago (about 1 month) . i can't recall the movie , but the song
is called caramel . maybe when the caffeine gets to my brain i'll remember...
sorry . anybody know the movie ?
dia beannacht leat
leprechaun sean daly
> --
> administrative requests should not be sent to the list!
> to unsubscribe, send email to listserv@netspace.org
> with the line: signoff indigo-girls
>

actually the movie is called the truth about cats and dogs , i'm told
lsd
>>
>>    a couple of friends of mine recently returned from prague raving
>>  about a  new suzanne vega video that kept being played on tv. they
>>  think it's  called caramel, or has caramel in the lyric...kinda jazzy -
>>  ends in a  wonderful chord that apparently i would love...they've asked
>>  in loads of  record shops with no success...anyway, i was extolling the
>>  virtues of the  internet and promised them an answer within 48 hours,
>> so help me out here  guys!  does anyone know about it?
>>
>>   seffy
>>  the song is on a soundtrack to a movie that came out here in the states
>>
> not long ago (about 1 month) . i can't recall the movie , but the song
> is called caramel . maybe when the caffeine gets to my brain i'll
> remember...  sorry . anybody know the movie ?
> dia beannacht leat
> leprechaun sean daly
>
>> --
>>

ok.  i think we'll get this name thing down.  thanks to corinne, she
pointed me in the direction of the "watershed" video.  amy actually says
emily's last name.  get into the middle of the tape when there's a
flashback to when they were playing in college and they are telling the
audience they can purchase the single "crazy game" and amy says "you get a
free pair of emily saliers' tennis shoes..."   (i think it's after the
galileo video)

if you listen, you can hear amy pronounce it sail-ers.  geez, don't ya hate
trying to pronounce stuff in writing??  aaaugh!!  ya know, we should all
create wav files and e-mail them as attachments - this way we can get the
pronunciation down pat and we can also hear each other.  probably a bad
idea, but we'd certainly get this name straight!!!

take care y'all !
- jen hall
-------------
original text
from corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>, on 7/23/96 12:20 pm:
to: <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>

hey jenn!

amy says emily's name on the crazy game part, i think...no... well... i
know
the lines. they are talking about the crazy game single and emily says,
"amy will buy you a beer if you buy one." and then amy says, "you get a
free
pair of emily saliers' tennis shoes, those are really nice." it is when
emily is talking about "making a living at what you love most.." and it is
about halfway through.
i hope that helps.

corinne

in a message dated 96-07-23 14:37:04 edt, you write:

> it just hit me (ouch!) that emily and bob dole share the same birthday.
>
> yikes,
> bon

yes, but alex trebek too! :)
[resisting dole jokes, since on emily day we should be sweet and good and
nice]
amanda

and there is not enough room in the world for my pain...

- ghost, e.saliers

      for those who may have lost loved ones in
      the floods of the saguenay region, quebec,
      or twa flight 800.

(apologies to anyone who may have thought this inappropriate)

just got my really awesome ig shirt!! rob, deb, you guys rule!!!!! this is
one of the most amazing shirts i have ever seen!!!! i cant babble enough! i
opened my front door, and to my great pleasure, there sat the package!! im
very very impressed! thank you guys, this is great!!

a very pleased ig'er,
tiff

i was wondering if anyone knows the setup of the electric factory and could
explain it to me. also, how early do you think would be early enough to get
there for good seats? i am so excited for the concert, and i want to make
sure i'm close enough.
--jamie

i wasn't sure how much press is out about this show, so...

for atlanta-area disappear fear fans, lift fans and caroline aiken fans,

there is an august 2nd show at center stage in atlanta and tickets
are on sale now. caroline opens the show and lift (my band!) opens for
disappear fear. should be a great friday night if you're in atlanta for
the olympics of for whatever reasons?!?

thanx
molly

> in message wed, 24 jul 1996 09:34:48 bst,
>   rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>  writes:
>
> > hi folks,
> >
> > went to see the celluloid closet a couple of nights ago - if you
haven't
> > heard of it it's a highly entertaining documentary about gays in the
> > movies - fabulous, funny  and eye opening -  highly recommend going
see
> > it if you get the chance.  and yes, for a fleeting second you do get
to
> > see the right half (is there a wrong half?) of amy ray, up there on
the
> > big screen, in a clip from bots!
> >
> > a couple of friends of mine recently returned from prague raving
about a
> > new suzanne vega video that kept being played on tv. they think it's
> > called caramel, or has caramel in the lyric...kinda jazzy - ends in
a
> > wonderful chord that apparently i would love...they've asked in
loads of
> > record shops with no success...anyway, i was extolling the virtues
of the
> > internet and promised them an answer within 48 hours, so help me out
here
> > guys!  does anyone know about it?
> >
> > seffy
> >the song is on a soundtrack to a movie that came out here in the
states
>  not long ago (about 1 month) . i can't recall the movie , but the
song
>  is called caramel . maybe when the caffeine gets to my brain i'll
remember...
>  sorry . anybody know the movie ?
>  dia beannacht leat
>  leprechaun sean daly

the film was "the truth about cats and dogs". the song "caramel" will be
on suzanne's new album "nine objects of desire" which is due to be
released in september.

sharon

howdy y'all,

well, for those of y'all who are coming to the august 20th ig show at =
the backyard and want to meet before the show for dinner, i have a =
suggestion.

there is a mexican food place called rosie's tamale house at the corner =
(north east corner, i think) of highway 71 and 620. this is about 2 =
blocks from the backyard. prices are lowish, the food is supposed to be =
very good.=20

i would like to suggest that we try to meet at rosie's at about 4:00 or =
4:30 pm.
if we meet that early we would have enough time to eat and get to the =
backyard by about 5:30.

if you are interested, please let me know.

see y'all in 27 days!

peace,

dan perkins

just got my shirt and it is fantastic!! thanks rob and deb!! good job...

rose

with all these rave revues about rob and deb's t-shirts i am completely =
kicking myself for not getting my order in!!! one of these days i have =
got to stop procrastinating!!!

peace,

dan

hello all,
   i am selling my two day pass at newport and wanted to offer it to the
list.  i am selling it at $58.50 (the ticket plus service charge) +  $4.85
to send it registered mail, + $1 to insure the pass for a total of
$64.35.  i want to send it registered mail and insure it to insure
whomever buys the ticket that it will get to them.  in addition, i would
like that person to purchase a money order in order to pay me.  the
ticket will be given to whomever emails me first with an offer.  if you
are interested email me at:  ekgraves@mtholyoke.edu

emily

looking at today's heats, janet evans still stands a good chance....
power to janet !!! go go go !!!!!!

is the newport folk festival (aug. 11,1996) the indigo girls first performance
since they took a year off? are they coming out with a new album anytime soon?

in a message date 96-06-27, kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org writes:

<< still, the biggest rip off of all time has to be michelle malone selling a
$35 bootleg tape, that sounds like it was made on "my first sony >>

okay, okay, so it seems to be a bit much... but, for the record, it is not
michelle (womon of my dreams) malone who is selling said tape for $35!  it's
actually rainy day, but that is the $30 for the tape and $5 for shipping,
which is not all that bad.  they have to make a profit _somewhere_, and i,
for one, am happy to pay almost any price they ask, because i feel that they
are doing our little ig community here a great service by carrying what they
do and being as nice as they are... i think we should all be thankful and
quite grateful that they're around!  how many of you would have any cd
bootlegs without them?  yes, a few of you would, but i know i wouldn't and
there are tons of you out there who depend on them for most atlanta bands,
etc.  go perry and marsha! =)  about the michelle tape, though, which, btw,
is called "strange bird", it's only worth what you want to pay for it.  if
rdr was the only way i could get that particular recording, even if they were
charging $45, i would buy it only because i love michelle's work that much,
and it would be well worth the cost to me. (this coming from a girl who would
probably pay $45 just for a lock of michelle's hair or something, but
still...)  to break it down even more, sb is $30 at rdr, but it's signed and
numbered, hence the lofty price.  michelle, herself, sells the same thing at
her shows for $15, which isn't half (as) bad! =)  okay, so the sound's not
the _best_, but it _is_ a bootleg and it is _well_ worth the price for any
michelle fan! =)  personally, i go to her shows and buy from her for people
on the list, but charge $16. (a dollar for a mailer and postage... i think i
might just be _losing_ money!)  i am willing to do this for anyone
interested, and many satisfied customers here on the list can vouch for me!
=)  i'm just a big ol' michelle fan who wants to get some of her solo stuff
out to those of you who i know will appreciate it, an i know $30 is a bit
much if you don't know her, which is why i love to do what i do! =)  (besides
the fact that it gives me a great excuse to go up and talk to her after the
shows... someday i'll be calm enough to say something intelligent...)  so, if
anyone wants "strange bird" (if you like her _at_all_ you'll need this one)
or "dredge" (a bootleg of her days with drag the river that i adore) i'm
_more_ than happy to accomodate you.  they _are_ $16 each, but they're worth
it. =)  e-mail me and i'm happy to send along setlists, etc.  i will be
seeing her tomorrow, so if you'd like them soon please e-mail soon! =)  i
might buy an extra or two, but try to write by tomorrow if you would like me
to get anything for you this time around.  otherwise, there's always next
time, and by the time after that all of you will have them, so i won't have
to worry about it, right? =)  hope to hear from all of you soon! =)  peace,
love, and a butter biscuit, sarah

hello! =)
      me, again! =)  does anyone know about nanci griffith and ig playing in
august here during the games?  what about caroline aiken or don conoscenti?
i know that they _are_, but i don't know when and i need to get the time off
from work, so can anyone help? =)  thanks! =)  peace, love, and happiness,
sarah

on mon, 15 jul 1996, andrews sarah wrote:

> here's a quesion for all of you southwesterners... has the kcsa
> cd sold out yet so can we start dubbing? i don't want to keep my
> list buddies waiting...

ksca announced that the "live from the music hall vol ii" cd has sold out.

allison
edgy@netcom.com

i'm pretty sure kristen hall is playing at eddie's that weekend, too. (i
think someone told me she was playing 8/3). can someone confirm that?

jill

>molly wrote:

>i wasn't sure how much press is out about this show, so...

>for atlanta-area disappear fear fans, lift fans and caroline aiken fans,

>there is an august 2nd show at center stage in atlanta and tickets
>are on sale now. caroline opens the show and lift (my band!) opens for
>disappear fear. should be a great friday night if you're in atlanta for
>the olympics of for whatever reasons?!?

>thanx
>molly

**********************
jefrankel@ucdavis.edu

hello! =)
      once again, tis i, sarafina... i should be doing other things, but i
just had to post this before i forgot... i found a place with ejs really
cheap, so i got a few extra copies of each cd.  if you need either of them ,
this about as inexpensive as it's going to get, so e-mail me and i'll give
you details!  first come, first serve, as usual. =)  peace, love, and
philately, sarah
p.s. anyone going to that ca/lift/df show on the 2nd?
p.p.s. namisaki, i had set your tapes to the side since you were out of town,
but now you're back and i'll bet you'd really like them, huh?  i'll try my
hardest to get them out this week.  i swear i'll answer your messages, too!
p.p.p.s. rena, i got your shirt a few days ago, but haven't had much time to
write!  i love it! =)  it's just the coolest thing! =)  everyone, if you
didn't hear about the shirts rena had printed, they are so cute!  they were
really inexpensive, too, and i think she might just be doing more, so if
you're interested you should write to her at rgcs1123@aol.com. =)
p.p.p.p.s. p-head, i am not neglecting you!  i'll write soon!
p.p.p.p.p.s. julie-head, i'm still here.  i'll write back, i swear!  going to
michelle tomorrow night? =)
p.p.p.p.p.p.s. dr. l, i miss you!!! =(  where have you gone?
p.p.p.p.p.p.p.s. the official them eof the tape i am going to make has become
coffee and cigarettes, so thanks for all of your great suggestions! =)  if
you have any more, let me know! =)

i had a friend once suggest that amy ray do a cover of pearl jam's "daughter"
i have to agree, it would be quite impressive...
alex

i have a couple of ig compilation videos with tv performances - on their
debut on letterman after perfoming ctf, he talks to them. he asks them
their last names - emily says sale-yers.

going back into lurk mode now...

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

whoo hoooo!!!
rob and deb rule!!!

yup - the shirt hath arrived and it's great... see...!! <modeling in front
of monitor>

1200 thank yous!!!

tracy

~~~~^~~~^~^~^~^~^^~~~^~^returning to my mountains!!!
        countdown - approx 4 weeks!
"looking for the answers... that i thought i'd find were true
        but it's a line to the world... and it's a line to me
thinking that i'm something... that i might not want to be...
                i'm a line."
        -- domestic problems, "i'm a line"

how's ev'ryone on my favorite indigo girls list today?  oh, wait, you're the
only indigo girls list- but that's ok.  (actually, i don't know if that is
correct... whatever...)
anyways, i'm just saying hi (i'm not subscribed for the summer) and wondering
what's going on...  lyric analyses, arguments, new shows, newport gossip,
anything cool.
i'm really excited to see (hopefully) a lot of people at newport...
by the way, did anyone cook up anything for emily's b-day?  just curious...
-mandy
(temporarily- lwarren531@aol.com)

hello list,
   the ticket to newport that i was selling is taken but i have a ticket
for the hampton beach show on 7/12 that i'm selling.  this one total is
$35.35 ($29.50 for the ticket and its service charge, $4.85 for
registered mail and $1 for insurance).  same thing as before applies
with ticket purchaser paying by money order.  email me at
ekgraves@mtholyoke.edu if you want the ticket.

emily
ekgraves@mtholyoke.edu
http://home.mtholyoke.edu/~ekgraves

as long as she's got noise, she's fine.
but i could teach her how to dance when the music's ended.
dar williams

hiya!
      just confirming!  last time i was at eddie's attic there was a poster
advertising that show, so i guess the rumour's true! =)  anyone going besides
me? =)  peace, love, and "empty promises", sarah

unfortunately, work is sending me to atlanta from 8/22-8/25 (what
a shame!!!). anyways.... does anyone know of any shows (k.h., vld,
disappear fear, etc) going on during that time frame??? ( i know ig is
someplace else - just my luck)

marianne

at 12:15 pm 7/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>in message <v01540b0aae1a93c664e7@[151.186.5.88]>you write:
> >>ohh.  i just checked with a caniadian french co-worker - - and his input
> >>was that it is pronounced
> >>
> >>        sal-yay
> >>
> >>apparently, the french don't prounounce the s at the end of words.
> >
> >well i always thought it was pronounced bin-cow-ski. the s-a-l-i-e-r and s
> >are all silent.
> >
> >deb
>
>rotfl!!!  that's brilliant :d
>
>seriously now,  having lived all of my brief life in quebec, i would
>say that sal-yay is right - of course that last y is silent (!), so
>it kind of comes out sal-y-eh (as in "how's it going, eh?")  and you
>only half pronounce that first y, it's like a mini syllable, half way
>between a vowel and a consonant.  bet i've got you all confused now :)
>if you'd like, i could try to teach you how to pronounce des moines
>or baton rouge too ;)
>
> -sarah
>

yes, but then wouldnt that sound like a mix between a bostonian and a new
yorker accent?? like car is actually cah... sal-y-rs is actually sal-y-eh.
oh whatever.
hmmm... one never knows...
:)

tiff(ducking the objects that are flying at her)

>ahhh.... so you're saying that emily said "moo".....

ack!  oh, no...here we go again! =) that was _not_ what i was saying.
neither emily nor amy said "moo".  it was really me.  yup, i am one of those
stuffed cows that moos when you squish it.  and i'm not telling which indigo
girl squished me to make the sound! ;)

peace, love, and coffee beans,
ponygirl --no, wait! cowgirl

karen: =20

subject: meeting before backyard ig show

>great suggestion dan!  but do we have to eat quite so early??=20
>maybe closer to 5:00ish or later - what do ya'll think?  i mean, how =
early
>do we have to get there - wouldn't 6:30 or so be plenty of wait time?  =
(so i
>don't know - slap me.;-) )

well, my concern is that the gates are scheduled to open at 6:30.

last time i saw ig at the backyard gates were scheduled to open at 7:30. =
i got there at 6:30 and there was already a very long line. personally, =
i want to get in line early enough so that i can be certain i get a very =
good seat. (actually, last time i ended up in 4th row seats somehow!)

perhaps meeting at 5:00 would be early enough. eat from 5:00 - 5:45 or =
6:00. we might still get decent seats..

what do others think??

later,

dan

i just wanted to say that the '96 list shirts rule! thanks deb and rob!

these are a work of art!  i can't wait to put mine on and galavant
around attracting attention to myself in it!  who knows, this shirt
could be a great conversation starter!  thanks for this awesome creation!

take care and peace!

-deb

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reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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              "sanawike1@aol.com" at jul 24, 96 02:45:55 pm

i believe they are playing 8/1......

mike r.
(back after taking care of his mother who was in the hospital and was afc
for a week, and for aiwa recorders, they suck! my mew recorder died (the
rec. button wouldnot stay down -- went to see james taylor) he was
incredible -- i had 3rd row seats!!!! he is doing new songs (anyone tape
last sat. night?)
really tired
anyone trying to email me -- email me again if it is super importyant!

president - the committee to have amy ray play "lincoln duncan" at hampton
beach, nh on 8/12 ....

susan marine -- email me i need to send you a check...

hi all,

i got my copy of the jesus christ superstar--ressurection soundtrack in the
mail a few weeks ago and am loving it. michael lorant, the girls and their
atlantan compatriots did an incredible job with the production! i was
especially awed by amy's vocal range in 'poor jerusalem.' i never knew she
was capable of singing so high! anywaze, my question for you all is whether
or not the jcs video is worth purchasing. i'm eager to see the tape of the
performance, but wondering what the video quality is like--though i'm
willing to trust that anything ordered from daemon will be well worth its
price. :)

~abigail

        hi all!  this is actually my first post, but i felt compelled to say
job well done to all involved with the t-shirts.  i just returned from a
four night backpacking trip with a group of youngsters and to see that
express envelope on the table...   anyway...i love the shirt!
        see y'all later.   jen

at 05:41 pm 07/24/1996 -0400, you wrote:
>>ahhh.... so you're saying that emily said "moo".....
>
>ack!  oh, no...here we go again! =) that was _not_ what i was saying.
> neither emily nor amy said "moo".  it was really me.  yup, i am one of those
>stuffed cows that moos when you squish it.  and i'm not telling which indigo
>girl squished me to make the sound! ;)

hhhmmmm................... just a thought.....
are you sure the supposed 'moo' everyone claims to hear is not just a
fashion statement made by a pair of 'cow pants'

marianne
(realizing you have to have been on this list for quite a long time to get
that one!!!)

hello all in indigoland, from your sagittarius branch!

my e-mail account through school has been discontinued since the pride tape
tree began, so if you've e-mailed me for a boot and haven't heard back from
me, please re-send at this address, as this will be the only way to reach me
from now on. sorry for the inconvinience!

stacy

hey guys-

does anyone want to hear amy ray do a cover of gordon lightfoot's "sundown".
on a 12 string uitar?

anyone?....anyone?.......bueller?.......bueller?

later-

karrie:)
who is sitting here listening to good ol' gordon as i type, wondering if sunny
is chowing on a cockroach.....

in a message dated 96-07-24 20:43:07 edt, abaroo@execpc.com (abigail) writes:

<< anywaze, my question for you all is whether
or not the jcs video is worth purchasing. i'm eager to see the tape of the
performance, but wondering what the video quality is like--though i'm
willing to trust that anything ordered from daemon will be well worth its
price. :)
>>

abigail, it's worth a look at! ;)

i finally realized that the reason emily was wearing those dark shades at the
jazz fest (thursday) was because she still had all that eyeliner on!!!!!!!!
she keeps trying & trying, but it is.... the eye makeup from
hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rick
(who can't stop laughing at the sight of mary magdelene... ;)

hello, all! =) just got this and thought some of you out there might just be
interested... =) peace, love, and lift, sarah

<<     upcoming lift shows...
          july 25 (tomorrow) decatur hometown stage 9pm (eddie's attic) free
              july 27 dooley's tavern, n. decatur nr. emory 10pm (no cover)
          august 2nd opening for disappear fear at center stage
            august 3rd the otherside
             august 4  eddie's decatur hometown stage 6 pm
         august 9th at the cotton club - serious fun benefit
          august 10 at smith's olde bar with the tender idols
         august 15th at dark horse tavern w/ mary fortune express.

there you have it. pass it on! >>

---------------------
forwarded message:
from: lift@mindspring.com (mols)
to: sanawike1@aol.com
date: 96-07-24 21:10:11 edt

some of our more noteworthy shows are on:

                        upcoming lift shows...
         july 25 (tomorrow) decatur hometown stage 9pm (eddie's attic) free
             july 27 dooley's tavern, n. decatur nr. emory 10pm (no cover)
         august 2nd opening for disappear fear at center stage
           august 3rd the otherside
            august 4  eddie's decatur hometown stage 6 pm
        august 9th at the cotton club - serious fun benefit
         august 10 at smith's olde bar with the tender idols
        august 15th at dark horse tavern w/ mary fortune express.

there you have it. pass it on!
thanx
molly

received my t-shirt today and all i have to say is...

rob and deb rock! the shirt is way cool...
thanks so much,

connie

like i said, they rock, i will wear mine all weekend!!!
kel (the girl who wore pigtails to work today!!)

--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy. (r.bach)
if you don't make dust, you eat it.
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast... (indigo girls)

howdy all! well i will be out of town this weekend, so here are the
birthdays until monday!
24 jul
wyohknott@aol.com danna
"nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust, we're
universal"

25jul
ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph anna hidalgo
"so i spent 4 years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
and i was freeeee..."

26jul
smile82@aol.com
"i was hopin i was just a temporary absentee"

27jul
rcarson@rohan.sdsu.edu renee carson
"i have no need for anger with intimate strangers, and i've
got nothin to hide"

jberlin@tower-hill.put.k12.de.us jessica berlin
"can any human being ever reach that higher light?"

28jul
kristenj@falco.kvci.uci.edu kristen jenkins
"the evil ego and the vice of pride, is there ever anything
else that makes us take our different sides?

have good one's y'all!! kel
--
what you are achieving is not as important as what you are becoming.
the opposite of lonliness is not togetherness, it is intimacy. (r.bach)
if you don't make dust, you eat it.
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast... (indigo girls)

well, the only similarity between ig and shawn mullins is that they're
both out of ga.--anywho, i was just curious if anyone else on the list
is a fan of his or perhaps even knows him--why i ask is because i love
his music and would love for him to get on up to st. lou,--so anyway, if
anyone cares to share, please do...sorry i used this forum--- that i
wasn't talking about ig-- but i figured that this was definitely the
best place to ask-----thanks for reading, tricia

"by the morning we shall inherit the earth,
our foot's in the door."-sylvia plath

that's my little off to college in aug.
quote--felt like sharing.---:)

>hey guys-
>
>does anyone want to hear amy ray do a cover of gordon lightfoot's
>"sundown". on a 12 string uitar?
>
>anyone?....anyone?.......bueller?.......bueller?
>
>later-
>
>karrie:)
>who is sitting here listening to good ol' gordon as i type, wondering
>if sunny is chowing on a cockroach.....

you know...thats the first time i've ever heard anyone mention gordon
lightfoot on the list...wow...thought i was one of a very few...my
dad has always been a big fan, and i grew up listening to gordon...i
think i could safely say he was one of my first folkie loves.
see ya later
love helene
"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky" kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
44(0)1265 324010

i am looking for people interested in trading bootlegs. whoever is interested
please send me a list of what tapes you have & if there are any specific ones
you're looking for. i'll send you back the same & hopefully we can all get
some cool shows.
thankyou
jean
"my friend tanner says me & jesus
we're of the same heart
the only thing that keeps us distant
is that i keep fucking up"-amy ray

hey y'all!

here is a list of covers i would love to here amy do. (since i am an amy
person, i have a list already comprised in my head....)

1.  "sundown" by gordon lightfoot.
2.  ""somebody to love" by jefferson airplane.
3.  "this land is your land" by woody guthrie.
4.  "hurt so good"  by john mellencamp.
5.  "the river"  by bruce springsteen.
6.  "turn the page"  by bob seger and the silver bullet band.
7.  "into the mystic"  by van morrison.
8.  "seasons in the sun"  by terry jacks.  (actually, i would really like to
     hear the girls do this one together with emily singing high harmony...)
9.  "turn, turn, turn"  by the byrds.
10. "the rainbow connection"  by kermit the frog.  (no joke!!!  i love this
     song, and amy picking it out on the banjo and singing it so sweetly,
     like maybe in her "poor jeruselem" voice!!!!  oh it would be so awesome!!)

an emily list is yet to come.....just let me ask my roommate and fellow emilyperperson what her opinion is....

peace-

karrie

to rob and deb, hats off to a great job on the list shirts. i got mine
yesterday, and i was very impressed. unfortunately, now it's going to be
hard to fight the urge to go topless in the top-down jeep ;)

patty

>does anyone want to hear amy ray do a cover of gordon lightfoot's
>"sundown". on a 12 string uitar?
>who is sitting here listening to good ol' gordon as i type, wondering
>if sunny is chowing on a cockroach.....

>you know...thats the first time i've ever heard anyone mention gordon
>lightfoot on the list...wow...thought i was one of a very few...my
>dad has always been a big fan, and i grew up listening to gordon...i

cool, does this mean it's safe to come out of the gordon lightfoot closet???

i, too, am a long time gordon lightfoot fan. (not to mention kenny loggines and jim messina)

peace,

dan

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   count yet another lightfoot fan.  the man really has power and a
compelling voice.  its quite a shame to see "gord's gold" being hawked
on tv like "roger whitaker and boxcar willie sing elvis."  *sigh* as
they say "every highway....."

and i would kill to see a&e cover paul simon's "duncan." i still think
the best cover i've heard is actually melissa etheridge doing ac/dc's
"shook me all night long." she just rocked....

-- chris

     ok, i'm receiving the digest version and have tried a bazillion times
     to go back to being not on digest. ok! so i read the little info email
     that's sent saying how to do stuff...i did stuff...it didn't work.
     sooooo...i send a "help" command to the listserv...do that command it
     says...it doesn't work...ahhhhhhh! can anyone please help me get off
     the digest way of things? <beg beg grovel grovel plead plead>

thanks =) kira

hi,

in august i will be in america to do some (as little as possible i hope)
business, meet some bands/artists and see their shows (michelle malone,
susan mckeown, reversing hour, jennie avila & amy torchia because they will
be in our upcoming dutch catalog and others). as i also love radio and have
my own show i will visit a radiostation (wfuv nyc) and a show (mountain stage).
my biz partner suddenly decided not to go with me. the trip planned is from
august 9th till august 25th and takes me from newport, atlanta, new york,
east brunswick to charleston. anyone interested in travelling with me on
this trip, part of the trip or show me the cities mentioned?

e-mail me at rockrose@worldacces.nl

claudia

found this on the ticketmaster site:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/events/performances/indigo_girls/

462 concerts present
          indigo girls
               * * *
        the bronco bowl
     2600 ft. worth avenue
      thu aug 22,1996 8:00pm

i have no idea if tickets have gone on sale yet. you can call the dallas
ticketmaster at 214-373-8000 to find out.

kris

hi all,

since our outing to see ellis paul was such a success, we took our
daughter, almost one now, to her second concert last night to see patty
larkin.   the show was wonderful.  it was my first time seeing her, and i
was not prepared for how much fun she is, since her albums don't really
reflect it so much.  it was easily one of the most entertaining shows
i've seen in a long time.  for anyone who hasn't seen her, i highly
recommend it.  you won't be disappointed!  : )

there was a nice surprise which was that jennifer kimble, formerly of the
story, played keyboards and sang backup.

patty didn't come out and talk to people, like i've heard she has done at
other shows, but she did stop on her way back to the stage after
intermission and sign my daughters "chika-boom" book (where we are trying
to collect signatures from every one she sees - so far we are two for
two), and she talked with us for a couple of minutes. she was very nice.

does anyone have a tape of patty larkin playing live?  there were a
couple songs which i've never heard before that i would love to have on
tape.  especially one, i don't know the name, where she channels  ethel
merman, um,  what's her name with the fruit on her head, and one other,
and the song is about shopping at the mall of amore.   absolutely
hysterical!   : 0

next month: carol noonan! : )

moo  (it was me)
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

p.s. great job deb, and thanks rob, i love the shirt!

>i still think
>the best cover i've heard is actually melissa etheridge doing ac/dc's
>"shook me all night long." she just rocked....

oh my god! did she really? does anyone have a recording of this?!????!?
i would loooooooooove to hear it. let me know - i'll trade for my first
born..... actually, that might not encourage you to reply ;) ..... how
'bout just some ig?

while i'm here, i used my little free-cd-at-hmv coupon yesterday to get
disappear fear - what a great album!! really different :) i really
like moment of glory ('course, amy sings on it...)

-sarah

while we've ressurected this thread...

how about "dust in the wind" by kansas? i think that would be sssoooo
pretty, esp. if emily sang lead 'cause its sort of like her kind of song...

amy

oooh anther chance to plug one of my favorites!

if you will be at newport, you will have a fine change to see patty
and three fabulous comrades at teh firday night show.

> tape.  especially one, i don't know the name, where she channels  ethel
> merman, um,  what's her name with the fruit on her head, and one other,
> and the song is about shopping at the mall of amore.   absolutely
> hysterical!   : 0
>

this is "at the mall" in which she (patty's words) "..features tehseparate
styles of three amazing amazing vocalists:  the inimitable marlene
dietrich, the amazing carmen miranda, and the late, the great...the dead..
ethel merma".  she said at one show that david wilcox didnt know who any
of these poeple were..she told he had a lot of videos to rent.  you can
get this on her album "live in the square" which has a lot of great stuff
on it.

hey y'all,

i just called dillard's box office (1-800-654-9545)
and they confirmed the following info:
ig playing aug 26th, 7pm at the mesa amphitheater
tickets on sale mon july 29th (my sister's b-day) 10am
general admission, $22.50 + $2 service fee

anyone going to this show? i'm thinking about roadtripping from
albuquerque:)

peace and ig,
donna

hi (me again),

good thing i'm obsessive about confirming this stuff - cause now dillards
box office says the mesa az show goes on sale sat july 27th, 10am.
general admission. 1-800-654-9545

regarding the santa fe show:
i called ticketmaster yesterday (505-884-0999) and they said tickets go
on sale on friday 10am - and how do they know? they heard it on the
radio... not yet contacted by promoter (weird).

las cruces show (bring those full roach motels for you know who:)
nmsu pan am ticket office (505-646-1420) said show not yet confirmed, but
if it's a go tickets can be charged through dillard's box office
(800-654-9545).

anyone with any more info please email me:)

wow, three ig shows in 3 days!!!!!!!! and i was talking with friend about
the driving logistics (especially to get there early enough for the
general admission shows), when it occurred to me - hey amy and emily will be
heading the same way and maybe they could give us a lift on their bus:))

adios,
donna

would anyone be willing to copy some ig bootlegs for me? i have been looking
around here (vermont) forever, and i haven't found any. sorry, i can't trade
any back in return, but i would be eternally grateful!

ali akenney@vnet.ibm.com

this is nigc and sorry to bother the list--i'm trying to reach claudia
whose email address is rockrose@worldacess.nl--i sent her a email but
it failed so claudia if you could please get in touch with me at
russ@dexmn.com i'd appreciate it--it is about the honor the earth campaign
thanks and peaace

hello,

all this talk of cover songs is proving too alluring...i must lurch from
lurkmode!

amy should most definitely cover u2's "two hearts (beat as one)"

now, i'm not the biggest u2 fan out there, but this song just leapt into me
head with amazing force when i thought about amy, and her singular passion.
the lyrics are totally amy (not to mention that jerry and sara would tear
this one up!).

emily should set her sights on richard thompson's "the great valerio." an
intense, deep lullaby (ostensibly about a tightrope walker) regarding our
relationships with our heroes:
"...so we learn to watch together/and feed on what we see above/'til our
hearts turn like the seasons/and we are acrobats of love..."

love,
andrew

i haven't yet received my t-shirt, but my friends are real sick of hearing
me yap about how great it is....

andrew bissaro
bbn on the world wide web
http://www.bbn.com
abissaro@bbn.com
(617) 873-3024
"i do everything from the heart, from personal conviction. if you try to
find love by charting a course, you'll never find it." --van cliburn

so, since we are talking about covers we would like to hear ig do... i =
would like to hear amy perform r.e.m.s song everybody hurts. i am not =
much of an r.e.m. fan, but imho this is a really great song, and i think =
amy could do a killer version of this.

bye,

dan

yeah, dan! i second that emotion!! :)

peace and cover songs,
tamara (who's currently singing, the "welcome to munchkinland" song from wizard
of oz...... yes, it's that kind of day! :)

p.s. i hope everyone in indigo land is having a splendid day as well!!!

>so, since we are talking about covers we would like to hear ig do... i
would like to hear amy perform r.e.m.s song everybody hurts. i am not much
of an r.e.m. fan, but imho this is a really great song, and i think amy
could do a killer version of this.
>
>bye,
>
>dan
>
>--
dan,
i've been reading all the cover suggestions and most of them, actually all
of them, have been really great! however ... you win the prize!!! (don't
know what it is though). i am really an emily person, but i can just hear
amy wailing away on this song with that wonderful, powerful, full of feeling
voice of hers. goosebumps, goosebumps, and more goosebumps. think we could
persuade her?

hugs,
deb

      hi!
      i would like to hear amy sing "femme fatale" from the
      the first velvet underground album that nico sang. would
      give it a different touch. bye.

in a message dated 96-07-24 17:09:57 edt, sanawike1@aol.com writes:

<< hiya!
       just confirming!  last time i was at eddie's attic there was a poster
advertising that show, so i guess the rumour's true! =)  anyone going
besides
me? =)  peace, love, and "empty promises", sarah
  >>
now i'm bummed - i'm going to atlanta (never been before) and i'm gonna miss
this.
can anyone tell me who/if anyone will be at eddie's july 29-31st?
thanks~
alex

hi all again,

does anyone know who wrote and/or originally performed these songs from
tuesday's children?

wisteria
junkie's lament
dancin' shoes, and
a heart in new york

sorry, no prize for the right answer (except my sincere appreciation).

thanks,

harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

isnt hear in new york a song by simon and garfunkel i know one of the
lyrics goes a heart ath beats in new york

on thu, 25 jul 1996, keates, harry wrote:

> hi all again,
>
> does anyone know who wrote and/or originally performed these songs from
> tuesday's children?
>
> wisteria
> junkie's lament
> dancin' shoes,  and
> a heart in new york
>
> sorry, no prize for the right answer (except my sincere appreciation).
>
> thanks,
>
>   harry a. keates
>   email: hak@crai.com
>
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ok dudes.....

here is my list of emily covers...the songs i would just love to hear emily
sing solo...

1.  "anticipation"  by carly simon.
2.  "for emily, wherever i may find her"  by simon and garfunkel.  i just think
     that 1) this song is ver appropriate due to its title, maybe like a song
     of inner exploration and self love, and 2)  i am a big ol' art garfunkel
     fan...i love his voice.
3.  "carolina on my mind"  by james taylor.  sort of goes along with that
     "southland in the springtime"-thing that em has going.
4.  "leaving on a jet plane"  by peter, paul and mary.
5.  "time in a bottle"  by jim croce.  i think this is an awesomely beautiful
     tune, and emily would definately do it justice.
6.  "baby im-a want you"  by bread.
7.  "america the beautiful"  of course, this would also more than likely sound
     incredible if she and amy sang it in harmony, acapella.  yeah, yeah, i
     believe so.
8.   ""you turn me on i'm the radio"  by joni mitchell.  totally an emily tune.
9.  ""son of a preacher man"  by dusty springfield.  yeah, kinda ironic, since
    em is the daughter of one....by picture it.  12 string guitar and emily
    jamming to this tune.  i think it would be so cool.
10. "the obvious child"  by paul simon.

ok, so there is the emily list.....

later-

karrie ;)

ps> i have a melissa etheridge list too, but you have to tune into that on
the mle list. <smile>

in message wed, 24 jul 1996 11:26:42 -0400,
jamie rosenberg <jamesela@aol.com> writes:

> i was wondering if anyone knows the setup of the electric factory and
> could explain it to me. also, how early do you think would be early
> enough to get there for good seats? i am so excited for the concert, and
> i want to make sure i'm close enough.
> --jamie
>
>the electric factory is like a converted warehouse . the sound was shitty
when i was there (only once for october project) . there are couches in the
front but you have to get there real early to get one . i would go as soon
as they let people in . there is also a balcony with a few tiers of small
tables and chairs stage left i think , on the right if your facing the
stage . the balcony doesn't really face the stage head on.
they serve booze on both floors for like 5 bucks a beer . they
don't really search you so you could smuggle a sippin' bottle in . there is
plenty of room to dance and the people ther are friendly , you should enjoy
yourself , but don't be surprised if the sound sucks , it far from a
concert hall...enjoy!!
dia beannacht leat
lsd

listers,
   the hampton beach ticket hasn't been sold yet - it goes for $35.35
($29.50 for the ticket and its service charge, $4.85 to send it
registered mail and $1 to insure it).  the show is august 12 at 8 pm in
hampton beach, nh.  email me at ekgraves@mtholyoke.edu if you're interested.

emily
p.s. rob and deb - my shirt arrived yesterday and i really like it! it
is one beautiful design!

i remember alot of you showing interest in leonard peltier and i just came
across this in my anthropology mailing list. hope it interests someone!

hugs,
deb

>date: sat, 25 may 1996 21:50:44 -0600 (mdt)
>from: robert johnson <johnsorl@colorado.edu>
>to: anthropology@iinet.net.au
>cc: deep-ecology@igc.apc.org
>subject: zapatista support for peltier
>sender: owner-anthropology@gospel.iinet.net.au
>reply-to: anthropology@gospel.iinet.net.au
>
>
> further resistance against the new world order...
>
>
> coyote
>
>
>the following letter was sent to us president bill clinton on april 7.
>
>mr president,
>
>on june 25, 1975, two fbi agents were killed in pine ridge, south dakota,
>without anyone ever finding out who was responsible for this crime. in a
>biased and fixed trial, leonard peltier, member of the chippewa-sioux
>nation, was declared guilty for these acts as part of the permanent and
>systematic campaign against the indigenous men and women of north america
>who struggle for justice, democracy, and freedom. we know that this campaign
>is carried out by the government that you preside [over].
>
>today, the participants in this american encounter for humanity and against
>neo-liberalism reunited in the lacandona jungle, who come from every corner
>of the americas, demand the immediate and unconditional freedom of leonard
>peltier, a representative of north america's indigenous resistance, and the
>absolute respect for the human rights of the indigenous peoples on the
>continent.
>
>sincerely,
>
>subcomandante insurgente marcos, comandante tacho, mayor insurgente moises
>and more than 200 other signatures.
>
>
>

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date:         thu, 25 jul 1996 15:23:07 -0700
reply-to:     jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
subject:      off line for a few
x-to:         janmv@tiac.net, meinhard@fastlane.net, archer@connectusa.com,
              oldwolf@user1.channel1.com, woods@mail.msen.com,
              104771.517@compuserve.com, leshchat@earthlink.net,
              katirose@ez2.net, dd@iquest.com, fverhoef@pi.net,
              nleach@pcweek.ziff.com, sanawike1@aol.com,
              sparke61@maine.maine.edu, stvnbnnt@interserv.com,
              helvasings@aol.com

hi,

just wanted to let you know that i'll be off line until the beginning of
august, so if you write and i don't answer, please give me some time. i
haven't forgotten you!

deb (aka jame)

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in-reply-to:  <199607252223.paa11458@iberia.it.earthlink.net>; from "jones" at
              jul 25, 96 3:23 pm

>
> i remember alot of you showing interest in leonard peltier and i just came
> across this in my anthropology mailing list. hope it interests someone!
>

<< zapitista letter in support of leonard peltier deleted >>

didn't amy write on the mosterbit list that she was going down to chiapas
to stand with the zapatistas for a time?

its pure speculation to even think about drawing a link between this
letter and amy's note. heck, i don't even know if amy traveled down,
but if she did, that would be one hell of a coincidence.

i will not be complacent...

chris

p.s. rob & deb... shirts received, awesome job! we'll finally beanle
to locate wach other at newport (a sufficient, but not necessary
condition =))

thank you so much, rob and deb, for making these for us!!!  especially
thanks for guarding the paperwork, etc through bertha.
i have a little problem.  i seem to have lost some weight recently,
(dang...where could it be?  i'm so absent-minded!), and haven't been
shopping in many a day, and ordered an xl b/c that's what i usually get.
but it seems to be too big, so i was wondering if anyone has a large and
wants an xl?  i didn't try it on, just held it up to me, so it's in new
condition.  just thought i'd ask the ever-resourceful list before trying
to shrink it in the dryer.
looking forward to wearing this waycool shirt,
love,
karey

i just read in the nashville scene (our entertainment paper) that danielle howle
will be playing at lucy's record shop in nashville on thursday, august 1st.  i've
heard her name bandied about on this list, both as a solo act and as part of
lay quiet awhile.  i'm just wondering what kind of music she plays and what she's
like.  the photo in the paper shows her with an acoustic guitar, but i know lucy's
record shop hosts mostly young punk bands...  i'm thinking about going to the
show (which is only $5), and i would appreciate any info anyone familiar with
her music could pass on.

peace and cheap tickets,

joan :)

wow, 3rd post for the day... well, good thing i had the day off today so i
could make lots of phone calls to see when tickets go on sale, but this
finally is sounding pretty definate.  santa fe show goes on sale fri 10am
through ticketmaster.  and the las cruces show is finally (dum roll - or
the patter of little roach feet) confirmed!!  ig will be playing at the
corbet center ballroom which holds 1,200 people - saturday august 24th,
7:30, tickets on sale fri 8/2 through dillards box office 800-646-1420.

and for my cover pick: well, i'd love it if each of the girls did their
own versions of richie valens' (spelling?) song "oh, donna."  the first
time i heard it was when some guy (trying unsucessfully to pick me up)
started singing, "oh, donna, oh, donna" over and over again and i couldn't
believe it was a real song.  but that's basically the chorus, lots of,
you know, "oh, donnas."  i finally heard the song in the movie la bamba,
and it's this slow, sad i-wish-you'd-never-left-me song... well maybe the
girls could just record the chorus:)

peace,
donna

:-((((( ..... but life goes on.....

does anybody know the address of an official janet evans site or homepage ??
please let me know if u do.
thanks a bunch !!!!

**sorry for this nigc

hey y'all!

ok, so amy singing everybody hurts would just rock my world..............
i get the happy's just thinking about it....

here are some more amy suggestions:

1. "only women bleed" by alice cooper. (bet there is one all of you are
either looking at reallllllly weird or going "oh yes!").

2. "every breath you take" by the police. on a 12 string. she has the voice.

3. "lola" by the kinks. just for fun.

4.  "hey hey johnny (empty garden)"  by elton john.  i can just hear her sing,
    "and i've been knocking, but no one answers...and i've been knockin...most
     of the dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....oooohhhh and i've been callin'.....ohhhhh
     hey hey johnny........can't you come outtttttttttt....to play?"  yeah,
     i believe that would just rule.  :)

ok, enough.....i have done this all day long. i need to stop now.
thanks for listening guys!!!

later-

karrie

i was really surprised when i read that someone else out there has an
interest in how our government screwed over an innocent man.  i stayed
with a lakota tribe in mission south dakota about two years ago and did a
great deal of volunteer work over spring break with a few other students
from my college. it was then that i first heard of leonard peltier.  last
march i traveled again on my spring break to wisconsin with felow
students and we stayed on an enviromental commune. many there shared an
interest in peltier's ordeal. we traveled to minniappolis on the date of
his parroll hearing and hundreds of us blocked the door (peacefully) by
just sitting in front of the fbi building for one hour.  needless to say,
they must not teach non violence in the police academy, because we
encountered many officers from the minniappolis department who were set
on forcing us (including picking us up by our hair) and throwing many of
us from the building)  we didn't fight back, that wasn't our purpose.
needless to say the fbi security people were very friendly and listened
to our concerns.  peltier was denied parole, but if the word got out
about how the government goes to any length to hide their mistakes, i
think it could make a difference.  take a look around you everyone and
read up on leonard.  i'm so glad someone shares our concern!!

free leonard peltier and all other political prisoners!!!

peace, love, happiness!

wen

on thu, 25 jul 1996, jones wrote:

> i remember alot of you showing interest in leonard peltier and i just came
> across this in my anthropology mailing list. hope it interests someone!
>
> hugs,
> deb
>
>
> >date: sat, 25 may 1996 21:50:44 -0600 (mdt)
> >from: robert johnson <johnsorl@colorado.edu>
> >to: anthropology@iinet.net.au
> >cc: deep-ecology@igc.apc.org
> >subject: zapatista support for peltier
> >sender: owner-anthropology@gospel.iinet.net.au
> >reply-to: anthropology@gospel.iinet.net.au
> >
> >
> >       further resistance against the new world order...
> >
> >
> >                                               coyote
> >
> >
> >the following letter was sent to us president bill clinton on april 7.
> >
> >mr president,
> >
> >on june 25, 1975, two fbi agents were killed in pine ridge, south dakota,
> >without anyone ever finding out who was responsible for this crime. in a
> >biased and fixed trial, leonard peltier, member of the chippewa-sioux
> >nation, was declared guilty for these acts as part of the permanent and
> >systematic campaign against the indigenous men and women of north america
> >who struggle for justice, democracy, and freedom. we know that this campaign
> >is carried out by the government that you preside [over].
> >
> >today, the participants in this american encounter for humanity and against
> >neo-liberalism reunited in the lacandona jungle, who come from every corner
> >of the americas, demand the immediate and unconditional freedom of leonard
> >peltier, a representative of north america's indigenous resistance, and the
> >absolute respect for the human rights of the indigenous peoples on the
> >continent.
> >
> >sincerely,
> >
> >subcomandante insurgente marcos, comandante tacho, mayor insurgente moises
> >and more than 200 other signatures.
> >
> >
> >
>
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ge>has anybody else noticed that during the bridge section of "cedar tree" on
ge>the rites of passage cd the guitar picks out the melody from beethoven's "od
ge>to joy"? just a thought from a laid off music teacher during summer
ge>break.....

ge>:-)

i've notice that bur didn't know what piece it was from.  i just knew it
sounded awfully damned familiar.  actually it's been driving me nuts for
some time now.  thanks for identifying the source.  know i want to know
why it's there.  anyone know anything?

tuesday's child

>date: thu, 25 jul 1996 23:17:27
>to: wenny da pooh <tool5600@kutztown.edu>
>from: jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: zapatista support for peltier
>
>at 09:15 pm 7/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>i was really surprised when i read that someone else out there has an
>>interest in how our government screwed over an innocent man.  i stayed
>>with a lakota tribe in mission south dakota about two years ago and did a
>>great deal of volunteer work over spring break with a few other students
>>from my college. it was then that i first heard of leonard peltier.  last
>>march i traveled again on my spring break to wisconsin with felow
>>students and we stayed on an enviromental commune. many there shared an
>>interest in peltier's ordeal. we traveled to minniappolis on the date of
>>his parroll hearing and hundreds of us blocked the door (peacefully) by
>>just sitting in front of the fbi building for one hour.  needless to say,
>>they must not teach non violence in the police academy, because we
>>encountered many officers from the minniappolis department who were set
>>on forcing us (including picking us up by our hair) and throwing many of
>>us from the building)  we didn't fight back, that wasn't our purpose.
>>needless to say the fbi security people were very friendly and listened
>>to our concerns.  peltier was denied parole, but if the word got out
>>about how the government goes to any length to hide their mistakes, i
>>think it could make a difference.  take a look around you everyone and
>>read up on leonard.  i'm so glad someone shares our concern!!
>>
>>
>>free leonard peltier and all other political prisoners!!!
>>
>>
>>peace,  love, happiness!
>>
>>wen
>
>>
>> i have to honestly say that i am more uninformed about this than i'd
like. because of your response, i have decided to do some research to
educate myself. if you have any info you'd like to pass on, i'd appreciate
it. and if i come across anything else i will forward it to you.
>
>thanks,
>deb
>

krisko, amy wrote:
>
> while we've ressurected this thread...
>
> how about "dust in the wind" by kansas?

ooh, that would be incredible---this i think is the best suggestion yet-
we must persuade them to do this--i can hear it now--woo-woo!

tricia

thanks ron & deb for the great t---got mine yesterday. i can't wait to wear
it. you
guys did an amazing job with this project. your time & energy has been
greatly
appreciated.
lisa

in a message dated 96-07-25 09:56:43 edt, k645501b@edinboro.edu writes:

<<
hey y'all!

here is a list of covers i would love to here amy do. (since i am an amy
person, i have a list already comprised in my head....)

4. "hurt so good" by john mellencamp. >>

.....i think i just came.

i totally totally totally would do anything to hear amy do that song!!!!!!!!!
:) rad choice!!!

rick
=nothing can stop me now cuz i just don't care anymore=

in a message dated 96-07-25 10:15:10 edt, cmbecker@space.mit.edu (christopher
m. becker) writes:

<<
    and i would kill to see a&e cover paul simon's "duncan."  i still think
the best cover i've heard is actually melissa etheridge doing ac/dc's
"shook me all night long."  she just rocked....
  >>

i agree!! that was the ultimate cover. :)

rick
=nothing can stop me now cuz i just don't care anymore=

in a message dated 96-07-25 17:45:31 edt, you write:

>here is my list of emily covers...the songs i would just love to hear emily
>sing solo...
>
>1. "anticipation" by carly simon.

you mean the ketchup song ???

(hee, hee)
binky bink

>3. "carolina on my mind" by james taylor. sort of goes along with that
"southland in the springtime"-thing that em has going.<

ya know, amy and emily actually did that one, way back before they were
"indigo girls."

-vic.
.

'allo,

well, it's been an incredible week with all the games going on here
in hotlanta. so many interesting people here! all the excitment! i'm so
proud to know we're the host of the 1996 olympic games! a great time!

did anyone see the women's team gymnastics? well, too bad if not. it was
olympic history. we got the gold in team competition for the very first
time ever; thanks to kerry strug... 7/25, a bitter night for shannon (my
fav.) and dominique dawes (a tough enough gf)....

about janet evans; she went there for the experience not necessarily
gold. even though she didn't get any awards, she still performed as a
great athlete imho.

still no info on bfe tour dates. i take it that no one knows what
their schedule is....

and r&j. no discussion. yes, i know a didn't write this but my ? is why
did she do this song? was it for someone, was it coz she just liked it,
was it referring to a couple she knows?.... eh?

i'll tell ya, i want to post ig info but i really don't post
unless they perform (together/individually), i find an article or unveil
some unattained informatation. . their's nothing going on for them in
atlanta right now. elsewhere i suppose...

that's all...

p/s: wish we could re: privately~

hi all.

i was thinking last night about the "bits and pieces" tendency em has, where
she sticks little bits of songs into her songs/their songs...i.s. twinkle
twinkle little star in "world falls" and "ode to joy" in cedar tree. as i was
pondering this thought on my drive home from work....i was listening to center
stage (one of my favorite and i believe most underrated amy tunes) and heard
"london bridge" for the first time.

amazing what really listening can do, huh? :o!

we've probably had this particular discussion before, but i just had to share.

2 weeks til newport--
oh! susanna

one thing i love about this list is the interest in leonard peltier and his
(imo wrongful) imprisonment.

many have expressed interest in learning more about the facts and issues
surrounding leonard peltier so here are some places to start.

for all of you who like to surf the web, there are many wonderful sites
filled with good information.  i highly recommend checking out  the
leonard peltier defense committee homepage (i don't have their address
handy, sorry).  these people are not only very knowledgable but very
nice.  when a rumor floated around this list that peltier was granted
parole (he wasn't, unfortunately :-( ), i sent them e-mail to see if
they could cofirm the rumor.  in there response back to me they told
me that emily sailers had spoken to leonard recently.  (the ig content
for those who were looking).

if you want to get in touch with this group but don't have web access their
address is:
leonard peltier defense committee
national office
po box 583
lawerence, ks 66044

there are many local support chapers of the lpdc, and if you want to learn
more or join one you can find a list of exisiting ones at the lpdc homepage
or by contacting the national office.

some good reading materials:
"in the spirit of crazy horse" by peter matthiessen
some consider this to be the defintive text on what happened.

"the martydom of leonard peltier" an aricle in the july, 1995 issues of
outside (i think) magazine by scott anderson presents a critical view
of the peliter case and challenges some of the points of the matthiessen account. this article is available on line (i got it with a title search).
it is worth reading since it provides a more critical look at peltier.

"stumbling along the walk to justice" by clare torres from the harvard
perspective site provides a pretty fair and balanced review of peltier's
case.

for you video people:
get a hold of robert redford's documentary on peliter "incident at oglala".
i'm trying to track it down myself.

if you want to send notes/cards/ or postal money orders to leonard peltier
(the money is uesed so he can make phone calls and buy art supplies according
to the lpdc homepage):
leonard peltier
#89637-132
box 1000
leavenworth, ks 66048

while you are writing you may want to send letters to the president, department
of justice, and your senators/representatives asking that peltier be
granted clemency (president can do this), and/or that his trial be reviewed
fairly!

sen. inouye spoke to his fellow senators on june 27, 1996 asking that peliter's
case be reivewed and justice served. maybe follow-up letters to inouye
(in support) and to memebers of congress could help reinforce the need for
justice...

sorry to ramble so long. now can you guess where i stand on the peltier issue?

in the spirit of the earth,
cynthia
crecca@admin.njit.edu

yesterday was the one-month anniversary of my getting my driver's license.
in some sort of sick honor of that...i drove to ponygirl's house to see the
watershed and live at the uptown lounge videos, and to give her her list
shirt (great shirts!!!!  thanks, rob & deb!!!!!) and eat popcorn and so
forth.  her house is about 30 minutes away from mine, and i've never been
over to her area.  i made it there fine, the directions were good, it was
pretty easy.  going home i figured would be just as simple.  i got the point
where i was supposed to get onto 295 and found that i had a choice!!!  which
295 to take?  of course, based on some sort of logic, i took the wrong one.
:)  when i got onto 64 then, from the wrong 295, i was heading in the wrong
direction.  for about 20 minutes i drove in  the wrong direction and only
realized something was wrong when i realized i was getting nowhere near
richmond.  i really freaked when i saw a sign saying that i had entered new
kent county - three counties over from where i had intended to be, way out
there...in the wrong direction :).  i was panicking.  i pulled off at a rest
area and tried to call my parents, neither of whom were reachable at work.  i
called a friend, who told me to go turn around and get on 64 going the other
way.  really simple from there.  just drive straight and i'll be dumped home.
as i pulled out of the rest area i noticed two things.  1) the speedometer
was broken - i drove at "0" all the way home :)  and 2) it had started to
rain.  #2 became more of an issue as rain became thunder-n-lightning storm
and i couldn't really see anything.  i got on the highway again, in the right
direction.  but it's not gonna be that simple, of course!   it's complicated,
but somehow i got off the highway in downtown richmond!  (i was confused and
panicked!)  bad!!!  there was nothing i could do, and i was hopelessly lost,
and a young vulnerable looking girl wandering around looking for a phone in
downtown is just not good.  eventually i made enough random turns and found a
sign for the correct highway.  i got on it - or so i thought!  what i didn't
know was that you had to go on 195 to get to 64 from that particular
entrance.  as soon as i started seeing "tollbooth" signs, i flipped out.  at
the tollbooth, though, there were veryvery nice people working :)  "excuse
me, what road are we on?"
and i eventually made it home!  two hours later!  soaking wet!  (in a white
t-shirt - the crowning indignity!)
and the igc here?  i had a bunch of tapes with me, since i do everything
better, including drive, with music.  when i began to panic and scream at the
empty car, i realized i needed a good dose of ig.  i had rop with me and
managed to find it and get it into the tape player (a feat in itself) (at
stoplights in downtown, i'm not that dumb!) and so...rop saved my sanity!
had it not been for the good music and quite probably the patron ig saints
looking out for me, i'd be driving around downtown still!!!  :)
thanks for reading this...had to let off steam and share the glories of ig
when lost ;)
many indigos and map-reading skills to all!
katy

yesterday while cd shopping, in the used bin i came across something
i've never seen before.  it was a rop cd in a tri-fold digi-pak
case, with completely different artwork.  has anyone seen this
before, or does anyone know what this is?  the song list was the
same.

jim fagan aix apar regression test technical lead (512) 838-2458

thanks to everyone who sent answers to my tuesday's children question.

in case anyone's curious, here is the consensus:

wisteria - dan fogelberg
junkie's lament - amy ray - maybe
dancin' shoes - dan fogelberg
a heart in new york - performed by simon and garfunkle, but not
necessarily written by them

thanks,
harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

p.s. i lost my list shirt - my wife took one look at it and said "i love
this shirt" now i'll never get to wear it! : (

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date:         fri, 26 jul 1996 11:36:19 edt
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> a heart in new york - performed by simon and garfunkle, but not
> necessarily written by them

its a art garfunkel number. on the "concert in the park" album, they
introduce it as one of the few songs in the program that was actually
written by art.

its also a beautiful song...

-- chris

p.s. harry, sorry about the shirt -- that's why i got 2 =)

hey y'all,

well i caught tracy chapman last night in santa fe.  what a great show!
she did the best version of fast car, started out really slow.  the show
was sooo good!
i got a great bootleg of this show if anyone is interested in trading.
   so, it looks like i'm eating a cockroach because ig is gonna play las
cruces, nm.  i am gonna have a few very sleepless days trying to get from
one show to the next on time for good seats.  i'm goin' to las cruces for
the saturday show, driving the 5 hours back up to santa fe for sunday's
show and then taking off again for a 7 hour drive to mesa, az.  oh, poor
me!  i'll have to hit the road right after each concert to get to the next
place early enough for a good spot in line.  i'm tired already.  needless
to say, i will boot all these shows too!!

                        --sunny,
  who's looking for the tiniest cockroach to eat,
     hoping it will be tender like veal

ok, this will be my last post on this before i start really boring people
(if its not already too late)

along with chris's clarification on a heart in new york being written by
art g., i have heard from a couple more people that a junkie's lament is
a james taylor song.

sorry for the misinformation.

harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

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from:   mark anthony donajkowski[smtp:madonajk@alpha.delta.edu]
sent:   thursday, july 25, 1996 3:43 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        re: tuesday's children quiz

> does anyone know who wrote and/or originally performed these songs =
from
> tuesday's children?

ok here's my best shot at who wrote these.=20

> wisteria - michael nesmith (formerly of the monkees). a song by this
title appears on nesmiths album garden

> junkie's lament - jt - james taylor

> dancin' shoes - little feet (lowell george) had a song called dancin' =
shoes, but i am =
not certain these are one and the same dancin =
shoes

> a heart in new york - simon & garfunkle (probably written by paul =
simon)

peace y'all

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thanks for replying btu i wasnt the original poster of this thread i only
answerd it
hugs anthony van pyre

on fri, 26 jul 1996, dan perkins wrote:

> ----------
> from:   mark anthony donajkowski[smtp:madonajk@alpha.delta.edu]
> sent:   thursday, july 25, 1996 3:43 pm
> to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
> subject:        re: tuesday's children quiz
>
> > does anyone know who wrote and/or originally performed these songs from
> > tuesday's children?
>
> ok here's my best shot at who wrote these.
>
> > wisteria - michael nesmith (formerly of the monkees). a song by this
>                   title appears on nesmiths album garden
>
> > junkie's lament - jt - james taylor
>
> > dancin' shoes - little feet (lowell george) had a song called dancin' shoes,                                                       but i am not  certain these are one and the same dancin                            shoes
>
> > a heart in new york - simon & garfunkle (probably written by paul simon)
>
>
>
> peace y'all
>
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yowza:

these shirts are so dang tasty, i just had to lick one.

it's amazing what the power of two (deb and rob) can do she said,
standing and applauding.

a mere two weeks until i get my butt outta this office and onto that
plane to newport! see you at the festival folks. i'll be the one wearing
the groovy t-shirt!

oh! and please remember to share your toys.

amy
amy1@alpeng.com

hi,

sorry to post this again, but my e-mail address was wrong. this is the
right e-mail address: rockrose@worldaccess.nl

in august i will be in america to do some (as little as possible i hope)
business, meet some bands/artists and see their shows (michelle malone,
susan mckeown, reversing hour, jennie avila & amy torchia because they will
be in our upcoming dutch catalog and others). as i also love radio and have
my own show i will visit a radiostation (wfuv in nyc) and a show at the
invitation of the producer (mountain stage 24th of august ).
my biz partner suddenly decided not to go with me. the trip is from august
9th till august 25th and takes me from newport, atlanta, new york, east
brunswick to charleston. anyone interested in travelling with me on this
trip, part of the trip or show me the cities mentioned?

claudia

on fri, 26 jul 1996, krae wrote:
>
> and r&j. no discussion. yes, i know a didn't write this but my ? is why
> did she do this song? was it for someone, was it coz she just liked it,
> was it referring to a couple she knows?.... eh?
>

well, don't know--but my gf saw amy do r&j in london and she sang, "when
we made love *i* used to cry..."

--patti, who was on this list about a year ago, then lost net access, and
now is back again...

hi everyone - especially rob and deb!

i got my shirt yesterday, and it looks great! unfortunately i'm not going
to newport or anyplace where i can wear it, but maybe minneapolis in sept.
thanks for undertaking this huge project, especially with your upcoming
move, rob! you did a great job. :)

i totally know what you mean about the post office people hating you. i
helped my roommate mail about 20 30-40 pound boxes a few weeks ago. she
kept bringing them in, and i'm hoisting them up on the counter... the post
office woman could barely get them off the scale and onto a cart, and she
told me that they're supposed to be able to lift 70 pounds!

hope everyone has a great weekend! my parents will be in town, so i've got
to keep them entertained for a few days...

sue

in fits of delirium and senseless humor, corinne and cynthia have conspired
(from across the usa) to add their wooden nickles to the ever-continuing
threads on ig covers and concerts...

disclaimer: if you are easily offended, have no sense of humor, or think you
will flame us if you read this, don't read anymore!

songs we'd love to hear and concerts we'd love to see:

1>  we think emily would be a great "little mermaid."  we think she can really
    hit those high notes in ariel's "part of your world" song.  we urge amy and
    michael lorant to do a "disney from dameon" release as a follow up to
    "jesus christ superstar."  we are currently casting parts and think that
     emily could also do belle from "beauty and the beast" really well.  in
    addition, we that that amy should do robin williams' genine from aladin.
    we feel it would be a musical challenge for her.  we also think that
    fellow list members rob and deb should be responsible for cover designs,
    related merchandizing and marketing since they are so good at it.

2>  we strongly ffel that the girls should headline the next "monsters of rock"
    heavy metal tour whenever it is.  amy is a better dancer then axel rose and
    that is reason enough to have them headline, not to mention musical
    diversity and expansion.  besides, gnr member slash could do an excellent
    guitar solo during "touch me fall."  emily could do an awesome job on
    "enter sandman" by metallica/megadeath (they are the same band, right?)
    since she is so good at writing harmonies and has better hair.  we also
    feel that since sammy hagar has left van halen, amy and emily should
    jointly share the position of lead singer in that band.  they should
    change their name to "van indigo" and the girls can be the first people
    in recorded history ro win grammy awards for best folk and best hard
    rock!  besides, we think that amy and emily would look sexy as hell in
    those tight spandex leopard skin pants...

3>   we would like to see amy and emily cover the gmc/chevy truck commericals.
     you know, the "like a rock" ones.  we feel this will be beneficial to the
     girls since it will finally give them some t.v. airtime (since no one is
     smart enough to play their vidoes).  amy can belt the "like a rock" part
     while emily harmonizes brilliantly in the back!  it would be beautiful.
     it will also help gmc/chevy trucks attract new customers.  since there
     is a stereotype that every good lesbian much drive a truck, we feel that
     gmc/chevy should cater to this market instead of the redneck market
     because we like lesbians better. (and we are writing this.)

4> amy singing "happy birthday, mr. president"... ask corinne for details
privately...

5>   "the electric slide".  this way when we go to wedding and they invariably
      play this hideous song and everybody rushes to the dance floor to make
     fools out of themselves, (between this and the chicken dance), at least
     the music would be decent!

6>   "i will always love you"  by whitney houston.  neither of us are whitney
     houston fans.  neither of us like this song.  we just thought that maybe
     emily... well... forget it.  in the same vein, they could cover celine
      dion and thay could get them into the olympic ceremonies!

7>   anything by duran duran!  just because they were so cool when we were
    like 10 and we are desparetly trying to hang on to those years and our,
    (dare we say it?), kid fears! (groan)

8> "the chipmunk christmas song" this way we can have an ig yultide treat
and it has been a secret desire of ours to hear emily and amy at 45rpm...

9> emily should do peter, paul, and mary's, "leaving on a jet plane" since we
all know how much she loves to fly!

8 and 1/2 wouldn't amy just make the cutest chipmunk?

that is it, for now.

we apoligize if we offended anyone as that was not our intent. (our intent
was to be funny but you can't win them all!) both corinne and cynthia are
very sensitive and our feelings get hurt very easily so don't flame us. we
will cry and devlop complexes and not be good contributing members of society.
besides we warned you in the beginning...

since we are sure that some of you didn't like our clever and witty lesbian
truck comment, we want you to know:

corinne is gay and aspires to drive a truck.
cynthia drives a truck and aspires to be gay.

now is everybody happy?
happy friday! :-)
cs and cc

hi all...about 11 people have emailed me today alone asking me if i decided on
a word for my plate, so i thought i'd share.

i decided on indgrl. two reasons: it obviously makes reference to a and e, and
i'm an "indiana girl" (originally) and pretty proud of it

nothing like killing two birds with on stone!

thanks to y'all for offering suggestions, etc. you're wonder-babes!

happy weekend-
susan

corinne and cynthia

thank you for making me laugh with your cover ideas! you rock. how fun and
funny!

love sundara <- who especially needed to be cheered up cause she just found
out she didn't get the job she hoped for and is tired of being unemployed and
tired of not being able to use her right hand because of a painful case of
tendinitis

in a message dated 96-07-24 13:30:32 edt, the dan man writes:

>with all these rave revues about rob and deb's t-shirts i am completely
>kicking myself for not getting my order in!!! one of these days i have got
to
>stop procrastinating!!!

me too....
also june and july were particularly bleak months for me financialy.
que las de mas *sigh*

binky

on 7/26/96 jim fagan wrote:

>
> yesterday while cd shopping, in the used bin i came across something
> i've never seen before. it was a rop cd in a tri-fold digi-pak case,
> with completely different artwork. has anyone seen this before, or
> does anyone know what this is? the song list was the

it's one of the epic promo versions of rop (the more elaborate one).
it's the same as the commercial release, just different artwork (and
mine has a picture disc). nice little collector item!

ann

:) hey ya'll!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay, all of this talk about tracy chapman has me frothing!!!!!!! i'm going
to see her for the first time in august-- something i've wanted to do since
"fast car"!!!!!!!!! :) i am so jazzed!!!!!!!!!!!

secondly...tonight i'm going to accompany a friend to a reba macntire (???)
show & i find myself wondering....what does one wear to a reba show? it's a
toss up between my ani difranco shirt & my all new death (of sandman comics
fame) shirt... hmmm...

:)
rick
=i'll believe it when i feel it, but i haven't felt it yet=

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>
> 9>   emily should do peter, paul, and mary's, "leaving on a jet plane" since we
>      all know how much she loves to fly!
>
lol!! but leaving on a jet plane was actually written by john denver,
altho it was popularized by pp&m.
kirsten, who always skips over loajp when listening to her pp&m cd
--
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with fewer opportunities for reward.  3. the most fun you can have with your
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hey folks. i got my t-shirt in the mail today and i love it! i'll wear it
to the airport tomorrow when i pick up my friend. speaking of my friend
i'll be gone for almost a week so dont expect me to reply to any private
email until late next week. i switched to digest so i wont miss any of
your posts to the list :)

peace love and indigo,

kristina

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first of all, lol! (and get annoyed looks) :)

>
> 8>   "the chipmunk christmas song"  this way we can have an ig yultide treat
>      and it has been a secret desire of ours to hear emily and amy at 45rpm...
lisa koch (pronounced coke) sang this at the folklife women's concert, and
she sounded just like alvin!  lisa koch rocks!!!
happy weekend everybody,
love,
karey

in a message dated 96-07-26 14:39:09 edt, you write:

<< >   amy singing "happy birthday, mr. president"... ask corinne for details
      privately...
  >>
i am particularly pissed off at kennedy jr for making light of mm singing
h.b. on his next cover of george but..... :)  amy could.

jude :)

amy singing "wicked games" by chris isaak

emily could play that kinky slide in the begining --dwow dwoooow dwow
doow --you know what i mean.

could be really sexy : )

gwen

in a message dated 96-07-26 17:59:14 edt, karey comments :

>> 8>   "the chipmunk christmas song"  this way we can have an ig yultide
>treat
>>      and it has been a secret desire of ours to hear emily and amy at
>45rpm...
>lisa koch (pronounced coke) sang this at the folklife women's concert, and
>she sounded just like alvin!  lisa koch rocks!!!

yes indeed...l.k. sure does..especially love; " my {you know} is singing !"
( "and my ovaries danciiiing !" ) >edited for those with delicate
sensibilities< :)

and of course...the "healing chant".... come on everybody !!!

"......hold..the goddess.....close to you...and start the healing chant...
(say it with me..)

  lesbiana, lesbiana,
  hosana, pollyanna,
  jodie foster,
  butch-a-femme-a-big dyke
  homo, homo, homo, homo
  living near tacoma....
  sappho is the spirit
  and the light !"

yep, no self respecting lesbian should be without it.
(that, and a truck, of course ;)
love !
binky (partial to ford rangers, but starting to notice f-110's)
>insert eartha kitt grrrowling noise here<

i've just joined the mailing list and cannot tell you how at home i feel.
where have all of you been all my life?! this is so fun. if anyone lives
near sewanee, tennessee - i think that you need to let me know because i
don't think anyone lives near sewanee, tennessee...

i'm looking into indigo girls bootleg trading. does anyone have any
recommendations? thanks in advance.

take care and thank you for being...

elizabeth

hi all!

i, cynthia, am writing from my home computer (instead of work) to inform you
of some very important developments in corinne and my ig cover and concert
wishes.

we have learned that peter, paul and mary did not write "leaving on a jet plane"
but john denver wrote it. we have also learned from you wonderfullly
intelligent
and well connected list members that emily saw john denver in concert and that
was one of her first concert experiences.

it makes perfect sense, now!

emily was traumatized by being exposed to john denver at such a young age. the
fear and terror associated with this terrible experience and hearing him sing
"leaving on a jet plane" has been transfered to a fear of flying. classic
psychology!

so we must all help emily overcome her fear by confronting it. she needs to
sing john denver songs about airplanes now! it will set her free.

we thank all of you wonderful people who have illuminated this truth upon us.

love,
cynthia who is leaving for a not-so-well deserved vacation with the
boyfriend sunday!
and
corinne who i have taken the liberty of speaking for because i have a
terrible crush on her! ;-)

a heart in new york is definitely a simon & garfunkel song...actually, i'm
pretty sure that's one of the ones art garfunkel wrote, not paul simon.
as long as we're getting back into covers (sigh...i'd promised myself i'd
stay out of this conversation...) and in keeping with the simon & garfunkel
theme...how 'bout mrs. robinson?  i think it's a great song, so i'd like to
hear a&e do it.  and "american tune" - another s&g, very pretty, neat
song...and i loved the james taylor suggestion, too.  some of his stuff off
"new moon shine" would be good for them to cover. like "shed a little light",
"native son" maybe, "like everyone she knows"...hmmm...this is addictive, i
can see how the thread keeps coming up.
katy

i just [finally] bought watershed and live at the uptown lounge today,
and while i've really enjoyed watching them, they have made me a little
uneasy about seeing the girls perform. i should explain that i've been a
fan for several years but never seen ig play live or seen either of the
videos. for some reason, a though it was incredible to be able to
watch a+e as they were singing, i also didn1t like it in a way, as if i was
being more distanced from them and their music. i'le try to make
more sense. i guess i had built up such a strong base on _just_ their
music, with my own images in my head as i listened, that to see them
perform, even on video,made me realize that they aren't exactly as i make
them out to bd. there was onr moment in watershed which showed the girls
fooli g around with some friends, talking about hairstyle], that made me
feel really separated from them. i guess it'seeasier when im not faced
with evidence of their private lives. any thoughts? -amy

>i drove to ponygirl's house to see the watershed and live at the uptown
lounge
videos, and to give her her list shirt (great shirts!!!! thanks, rob &
deb!!!!!)

yes! awesome shirts! =) thanks, rob and deb (and bertha for not destroying
everything in her path)!!!!! i want to wear my list shirt every single day,
but it might start to get smelly... =p

>rop saved my sanity!

what sanity?!?! (tee hee) ouch, katy! don't hit me...=)
i've never met a true ig fan who was sane...or even dancing the edge of
sanity, for
that matter. ;)

if anyone ever gets lost, (heck, i get lost in my own neighborhood
sometimes!) i have some advice from a little indigo-colored birdie: all you
have to do is get out the map and lay your fingee anywhere down. oh, and
don't drink the water, either. ;)

peace, love, and those wonderful list tees (and listees),
ponygirl

queen minerva wrote:
>
> i just [finally] bought watershed and live at the uptown lounge today,
> and while i've really enjoyed watching them, they have made me a little
> uneasy about seeing the girls perform. i should explain that i've been a
> fan for several years but never seen ig play live or seen either of the
> videos. for some reason, a though it was incredible to be able to
> watch a+e as they were singing, i also didn1t like it in a way, as if i was
> being more distanced from them and their music. i'le try to make
> more sense. i guess i had built up such a strong base on _just_ their
> music, with my own images in my head as i listened, that to see them
> perform, even on video,made me realize that they aren't exactly as i make
> them out to bd. there was onr moment in watershed which showed the girls
> fooli g around with some friends, talking about hairstyle], that made me
> feel really separated from them. i guess it'seeasier when im not faced
> with evidence of their private lives. any thoughts? -amy
>

i love watching the girls on video, in concert, or whatever they're
doing, whenever i can.  seeing them in everyday surroundings makes me
feel closer to them, not "separated."  they're people, after all -- they
just happen to be very talented musicians and songwriters.  though i'm
sure i would be tongue-tied if i were to ever come face-to-face with
either of them, it's nice to realize we're all sisters under the skin,
and they don't seem so 'untouchable' to me since i've been able to see
the way they kid around with each other, their friends, fans and fellow
musicians.  of course, that's just mho.

on a similar note, i'm going to get to see them twice -- after i got
tickets for 8/20 in austin, i found out they're going to be in san
antonio on 8/21 -- i even went today and checked out the club where
they'll be playing! it's the smallest venue on their little tour, and i
can't wait to see them again. it's gettin closer to fine, folks...

cyndi

hi all,

i'm new to the list, as you don't know my name, but i've been on the
#indigo-girls and i guess maybe a couple of you do know me, whatever...
anywhoosers, as i just got sold out of the roseland concert on the
fourteenth, i'll just go ahead...

what about april come she will, and or dangling conversations, in regard to
simon and garfukel, and i've always thought they could do little wing by
hendrix pretty well... i prolly have more, but i don't wanna waste
bandwidth on a topic i could be screwing up anyway. nice to meet y'all..

alec

ps, any of y'all in the westchester area?

:) it's me again!

re: reba--- oh yes... :) she rocked....

first of all i was seated for the first half hour behind billy dean, reba's
opening act. he was really great & since they had these huge video monitors,
i also saw that he is brutally hot...so i spent the first 30 minutes with a
view of billy dean's butt.

obviously i now have a huge crush on billy dean.

then all of these crew members started to set up reba's set. i was totally in
awe. i haven't ever seen so much equipment, so many lights, computer
monitors, etc. i mean, i'd been told that this show would be something, but i
had no idea....
needless to say i was totally thrilled with the show. i don't know how they
got that airplane in the miami arena or how the taxi driver managed to move
around on the set, but hey- what an opening!!

she performed a song about aids that i think was called "his name was john"
that was simply amazing...she finished the song being raised on this pedestal
that was surrounded by a names quilt.

several times the show seemed almost like one of those animatronic shows at
disney world -reba gets lowered down & comes up with a new costume...sets
appear out of nowhere... wow.

the most amazing part was during the final number- a song called "fancy". we
see the beginning of the video on the huge monitors & then see someone
dressed like reba is in the video on stage.... then just as the song's chorus
is about to kick in, the lights go out & streams of sparkling fire flash
across the stage's "runway"....till reba herself is once again raised up onto
the stage...then over the stage... then over the crowd on some sorta see-saw
crane kinda thing.........

it really was more like a broadway show than a concert. and on another little
personal note, i'd have to say that i could become a country-music addict.
especially if i could meet some really cute guy in a cowboy hat.... ( i
didn't know people in miami actually wore them! )

sorry for the nigc, but i am psyched!!!!!!!!!!! :)

rick
*who wonders who helped billy dean get outta those pants without having to
use the jaws of life*

the first time i saw the indigo girls "live"
was in 1989 at the pine street theater
in portland, oregon.

the pine steet theater is a smallish club that
reminds me a bit of the great american music hall
in san francisco. its got a bar, tables and a balcony.
the stage was basically this little riser at one end with
a "dance floor" in front of it.
the place had that great smell of old wood and beer,
with the faintest hint of marijuana in the air.

i bought a shirt (black with cover from the self titled album
on it, which i still have :) and the shirt people game me a promo
poster for the concert as a "bonus". i trundled up to the right front side
of the stage, and saw them walk through an open door to the right of
the stage.
the two of them were silhouetted by the light from the other side of the
door.
i saw that one of them was smoking a cigarette (amy ?) which they
put out on the way to the stage. they stormed through a smokin' set
comprised mostly of songs from "indigo girls". (very similar to the
uptown lounge set.)

my most vivid memory was of amy singing "blood and fire"
she was glistening with sweat and the veins and muscles in
her neck were bulging as she belted out the song. it was one
of the most intense perfomances i have ever seen by any
performer. i will allways regret not having my camera with me
on that night. one of the best parts of it was the small venue,
the people in front were resting their elbows on the stage.
i was no more than 15 feet away from a & e myself. i think
this was my mostest favorite of all the times i've seen them.

i'm not real big on the whole autograph thing, but i wouldn't
mind getting that poster signed some day. i also hope that
someday i can see them in an intimate setting like the pine
street theater again, where i'm not separated from the stage
by baricades and a photo pit. i also like the way that the
stages in clubs are only about three or four feet high.
but anyway.....
i am allways amazed by the sheer power of the sound that is
created by those two women with acoustic guitars.
it's very big.

the end

love,
binky

i was so excited cause i found a book of audre lorde's writings, including
zami, sister outsider, and undersong, all in one book at a used book store.
score for me. i was reading through her poetry, and i came across my
favorite poem in the world, and i have always had a sneaking feeling i had
heard it before, but could never place it, then it hit me, amy ray quotes the
first few lines in the nis thingy with all the words in it. hurray for me
figuring it out. so i thought i would share the poem with everyone. love
sundara

for each of you

be who you are and will be
learn to cherish that boisterous black angel that drives you
up one day and down another
protecting the place where your power rises
running like hot blood
from the same source
as your pain.

when you are hungry
learn to eat
whatever sustains you
until morning
but do not be misled by details
simply because you live them.

do not let your head deny
your hands
any memory of what passes through them
nor your eyes
nor your heart
everything can be used
except what is wasteful
(you will need to remember this
when you are accused of destruction).
even when they are dangerous
examine the heart of those machines
which you hate
before you discard them
but do not mourn their lack of power
lest you be condemned
to relive them.

if you do not learn to hate
you will never be lonely
enough
to love easily
nor will you always be brave
although it does not grow any easier.

do not pretend to convenient beliefs
even when they are righteous
you will never be able to defend your city
while shouting

remember
our sun
is not the most noteworthy star
only the nearest.

respect whatever pain you bring back
from your dreaming
but do not look for new gods
in the sea
nor in any part of a rainbow.

each time you love
love as deeply
as if it were
forever
only nothing is
eternal.

speak proudly to your children
where ever you may find them
tell them
you are the offspring of slaves
and your mother was
a princess
in darkness.

(1970)

i got mine yesterday and all i can say is

ditto !!!!

and i wish i had ordered 2 !!

hope you are thinking about the 1997 list-shirt! it has a hard act to follow!

0:)

hi michael,
i've been trying to email you but it keeps coming back "undeliverable."
i have some places-to-stay info, are you coming down? did you get
tickets? email me with another way to get intouch:)
adios,
donna

rob and deb, you're great!

i received my shirt yesterday and it turned out even better than i had
anticipated. thank you for your labor of love. i'll wear it with pride.

yours,
janine

to whom if may concern,
i'm in a desperate search for ig tickets at the roselands on or about
august 14th. if anyone has tickets they're looking to sell, please let me
know!
thanks!
robert poole

hello all-

a year ago this weekend i went to a pow-wow at discovery park here in
seattle. it was the day after i had seen the girls do jesus christ superstar
here.

at a pre-concert show, amy had performed and then walked about 3 feet away
from me. i could only stand with my mouth agape. i was paralyzed. i swore
that if i ever got the chance to meet amy again i wasn't going to pass it up.

anyway at the pow wow, a friend i was with suggested that we might see amy
there cuz of her interest in native americans and i discounted the idea
thinking it would be too good to be true.

but wouldn't you know, we were standing in line for the porta potty and my
friend said "oh my god theres amy," and there she was in all her glory
wearing a baseball cap turned backwards. remembering my early vow, i promptly
walked over to her and the group she was with. i said "amy"-no response. i
said it again louder and she turned around. i said "can i meet you" and she
seemed open, so i said i had seen her in concert the night before and that i
thought she did great. she thanked me, there was a brief pause, and then she
shook my hand.

i know the girls gaurd their privacy so i tried to be respectful about it and
not follow her all around the park drooling. i was tempted not to wash my
hand but i did eventually.

i love both the girls but i must admit that amy has always been my favorite
because of her raw passion.

peace to all

tina rae

michelle malone is opening the indigo's ne shows following newport...don't
know if she's solo or with bds.

>to: cinglew@aol.com
>from: jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: ig + mm (mini tour)
>
>at 05:12 pm 7/27/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>michelle malone is opening the indigo's ne shows following newport...don't
>>know if she's solo or with bds.
>>
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rob and deb- great job! thanks. everyone who's seen my shirt is
plotting to swipe it :)
ya done good.
jazz

hello, all! =)
      i'm not at home, but i really need scot ninnmann's address at home...
hey, scot?  i need your address and i can't access my old mail from here.  i
think just about everybody online has it, so if someone could kindly get that
to me (maybe tonight) i would _really_ appreciate it _mucho_! =)  thanks,
people! =)  you can just send it to my address at sanawike1@aol.com if this
isn't coming from there... anyhow, i'll finish catching up soon, i promise!
=)  talk at ya later! =)  oh yeah, and if any of you can think of any more
coffe or cigarette songs, i'd really like that, too. =)  i plan on giving
this person her tape in about two weeks, so i guess i need to get rolling...
off now! =)  peace, love, and counting stars, sarah

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