lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-08d


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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 04:31:03 gmt
reply-to:     alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
subject:      that ra concert

hey all, i know this is going to piss you off, but i was wondering exactly
where i follow the hyperlink to grab that ig realaudio concert...  i
thought that might be important to know, b/c several of my friends who need
a live ig fix are depending on my little box here to fulfill their need...
have a nice day,

alec

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date:         tue, 20 aug 1996 21:51:27 -0700
reply-to:     "kim: goddess of stuff" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess of stuff" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: line dancing

at 09:26 pm 8/20/96 -0600, marian wrote:
>just got home from work and was channel surfing and as i passed the country
music channel, i
>recognized hammer and a nail and they were "line dancing" to it. cowboy
boots and plaid shirts and
>line dancing. no kidding. ahhhhh.
>
>hastily donning my asbestos coveralls i admit that i
have learned several line dances, love to do it and
can do a mean honky tonk stomp to hammer + nail...
yeeeehaaaa!!!! pardner!!! ( and *i'm* from the pacific
northwest... *nothing* fits as it oughta ( not even my
asbestos coveralls as of late... danged extra few pounds )
... hmmm ).
do ya think a+ e would not approve?... :-)
peace all... kim ( who is missing her pal trace, and is
trying to think of a new nic for irc since someone else
has taken mine... and *her* name is kim too... small world. )
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date:         tue, 20 aug 1996 23:50:32 pst
reply-to:     jenny - korn <kshucks@juno.com>
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from:         jenny - korn <kshucks@juno.com>
subject:      ig-list t-shirts

how may i obtain the wonderful ig-list t-shirt which led me to joining
this group?...private replies are welcomed (i'm not sure if others are
as clueless as i am and i don't want to clog up their boxes with
unsolicited info)...take care, @=d jen

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 00:59:54 edt
reply-to:     tamara mizell <103660.214@compuserve.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         tamara mizell <103660.214@compuserve.com>
subject:      re: line dancing

>just got home from work and was channel surfing and as i passed the country
>music channel, i recognized hammer and a nail and they were "line dancing" to
it. >cowboy boots and plaid shirts and
>line dancing. no kidding. ahhhhh.
>marian

yikes!  the mere thought makes me queasy.  i'm glad it was you who is left with
this damaging visual and not me!!  :)  although my mind is creating a pretty
nausea-provoking image, i must say...

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date:         tue, 20 aug 1996 22:16:50 +0000
reply-to:     "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
subject:      re: line dancing

> >
> >hastily donning my asbestos coveralls i admit that i
> have learned several line dances, love to do it and
> can do a mean honky tonk stomp to hammer + nail...
> yeeeehaaaa!!!! pardner!!! ( and *i'm* from the pacific
> northwest... *nothing* fits as it oughta ( not even my
> asbestos coveralls as of late... danged extra few pounds )
> ... hmmm ).
> do ya think a+ e would not approve?... :-)
> peace all... kim

aaaaaaauuuuugggghhh!!!!!!!!

gee thanks kim! now i am stuck with this vision in my head of 12,000 ig
fans at a concert, line dancing to hammer and a nail, while wearing
flame retardant coveralls, that just don't quite fit!!!

i tell you, this may turn in to a very bad ig dream. ;^)

chris payne owen4@adnc.com


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date:         tue, 20 aug 1996 22:05:59 -0800
reply-to:     bonster@alaska.net
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from:         bonster@alaska.net
subject:      thanks for the info

thanks to everyone who told me that #indigo-girls can be found on dal.net
(as well as ef.net).

you all were so quick to respond :)

i chatted with a listmember this evening (hi, kim!).

-bon

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 03:02:54 -0500
reply-to:     cyndigo@txdirect.net
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from:         cyndi johnson <cyndigo@txdirect.net>
organization: fast fingers
subject:      i met the girls!

hi y'all!  the concert tonight at the backyard was awesome and the girls
were in rare form -- played all their new songs, amy played the
mandolin, emily played piano and banjo, and they were great, even though
they made a few mistakes and amy said, "we should have named this the
humiliation tour!"

but the best part was that after the concert they held a meet & greet
benefit for the indigenous womens network, for which the tickets were
limited to something like 100 people, at $35.00 apiece.  needless to
say, i made my contribution gladly for the chance to meet the girls, and
i actually did!  they were sooo cool, down-to-earth, talkative,
appreciative, etc.  they both signed my braves baseball cap, my list
t-shirt, and an 8x10 i had of them together, and i got a guitar pick
which they threw from the stage.  i also had my picture taken with each
of them, shook hands with them both, and they actually had their arms
around me for the pictures.  needless to say, i'm in 7th heaven!  it was
great to get to converse with them about their music.  i asked amy about
when the new album is coming out; she said they're going into the studio
next month and it would probably be out in march or so.  anyway, i was
really impressed with how they interacted with their fans one-on-one,
and it was certainly an evening i'll never forget.  on top of that, i'm
also going to the wednesday night show at the white rabbit in san
antonio.

sorry to take up so much bandwidth with this, but it's 3:00 a.m., and i
am still so excited, i had to share with you guys.  by the way, karen,
it was nice meeting you at the concert.  i was hoping to run into dan
but never did.  catch y'all later!

cyndi

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 07:32:49 -0700
reply-to:     pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
subject:      nigc  map shirt

who sent me the shirt..this is driving me nuts..for those who don't know
what i'm talkin about//a package arrived monday containing one  demo
shirt ...no name , no return address..  which kind soul sent this to
me??? had to be someone from the list..none of my other friends know
about it...

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 08:47:00 est
reply-to:     amy dowd <adowd@nas.edu>
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from:         amy dowd <adowd@nas.edu>
subject:      re: any md/dc concert dates?

  i just joined the list a couple of days ago and although i've heard of
  the norfolk, va, and lancaster, pa indigo girls concerts, what i'm really
  curious about is if anyone has heard if there'll be any
  maryland/washington dc concerts? does anybody know where i can get their
  itinerary and general concert information?

  thanks!
       - amy

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 07:59:58 cdt
reply-to:     jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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from:         jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
subject:      re: i met the girls!

aaaauuuuggghhhh !!  if we didn't have to drive all the way back to crappy
houston, we would have went too!!  geez, i'm really shooting myself in the
foot today! <sniff>

hey, anyone got any no-doze?  i'm working here on 3 hours sleep.  so if you
call compaq and get a grouchy chick - - it's me.....<hee hee>

still on cloud 9 due to the concert, but bummed that we didn't get to meet
a&e,
- jen hall
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from cyndi johnson <cyndigo@txdirect.net>, on 8/21/96 3:02 am:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

hi y'all!  the concert tonight at the backyard was awesome and the girls
were in rare form -- played all their new songs, amy played the
mandolin, emily played piano and banjo, and they were great, even though
they made a few mistakes and amy said, "we should have named this the
humiliation tour!"

but the best part was that after the concert they held a meet & greet
benefit for the indigenous womens network, for which the tickets were
limited to something like 100 people, at $35.00 apiece.  needless to
say, i made my contribution gladly for the chance to meet the girls, and
i actually did!  they were sooo cool, down-to-earth, talkative,
appreciative, etc.  they both signed my braves baseball cap, my list
t-shirt, and an 8x10 i had of them together, and i got a guitar pick
which they threw from the stage.  i also had my picture taken with each
of them, shook hands with them both, and they actually had their arms
around me for the pictures.  needless to say, i'm in 7th heaven!  it was
great to get to converse with them about their music.  i asked amy about
when the new album is coming out; she said they're going into the studio
next month and it would probably be out in march or so.  anyway, i was
really impressed with how they interacted with their fans one-on-one,
and it was certainly an evening i'll never forget.  on top of that, i'm
also going to the wednesday night show at the white rabbit in san
antonio.

sorry to take up so much bandwidth with this, but it's 3:00 a.m., and i
am still so excited, i had to share with you guys.  by the way, karen,
it was nice meeting you at the concert.  i was hoping to run into dan
but never did.  catch y'all later!

cyndi

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 09:01:49 -0400
reply-to:     sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         sheri stanley <sstanley@infinet.com>
subject:      melissa etheridge (nigc)
x-to:         amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199608202030.qaa35991@pilot11.cl.msu.edu>

sorry to post this to the list, but i thought it might be a good place to
get the info. i'm looking for. i know the name of the listserv to
subscribe to the melissa etheridge mailing list, but i don't know the
exact name of the list and nothing i've tried works. can someone help me
out? thanks.

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 14:36:30 +0100
reply-to:     juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
subject:      subscription mle list (nigc)

several people have recently asked about subscription to the mle list -
you may subscribe by mailing the message: subscribe mlether  to the
address: listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca

hope that helps!!! see you there!

juliet.

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 09:43:25 -0500
reply-to:     twb@zycor.lgc.com
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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      re: austin concert

just to add to cyndi's comments, three more strings went to that great martin
factory in the sky.  plus one by chris mckay.

also, i ask emily what she looked for in a guitar.  she said she likes the big
full sounds, so she likes the j-40, d-45, and d-35.  these are all martins.

trant

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 10:49:59 -0400
reply-to:     "kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org" <kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org" <kjarvis@atlas.lmi.org>
subject:      remaining tour dates

for those of you who just joined the list or just missed these, here are the remaining dates of the ig practice tour:


           08/21/1996  austin, tx  white rabbit
           08/22/1996  dallas, tx   bronco bowl auditorium
           08/24/1996  las cruces, nm     new mexico state university
           08/25/1996  santa fe,nm paolo solieri
           08/26/1996  mesa, az mesa amphitheater
           08/31/1996 seattle, wa bumpershoot festival


they will also be performing at the honor the earth cd release party on sept 20 in minneapolis, mn.

as far as i know, tickets for all of these events have already gone on sale.

kris

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 10:16:56 -0600
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      internet broadcast of mnpls show

i received the following from monsterbit yesterday. thought you might be
interested:

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"the honor the earth campaign is proud to announce the first in a series of
live internet broadcasts. on september 20, monsterbit media inc. will
broadcast a benefit concert live from northrup auditorium at the
minnaepolis campus of the university of minnesota, featuring artists on the
honor i cd. starting at 7:30 p.m. cdt, the broadcast includes performances
by indigo girls, bruce cockburn, sherman alexie, and indigenous. all net
proceeds benefit the honor the earth campaign."
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no specific info was provided about the hook-up other than mentioning that
they joined forces with direct events, inc, but i'm sure more info will
follow soon.

if you're interested in being on the monsterbit list, check out their site
at www.monsterbit.com/cgi-bin/info

deb

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 11:14:10 -0500
reply-to:     sylvia v parga <sparga@tenet.edu>
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from:         sylvia v parga <sparga@tenet.edu>
subject:      austin concert/new emily song?

hey y'all,

well, to reiterate every one else's comments, the austin show was great
(no rain!! yea!!!! :)  looking forward to tonights san antonio show (last
stop in my cross country ig tour, sniff sniff :(   but now i have a question
for all y'all who went (or anyone else who knows).  what was that
_really_ new song emily played?  i hadn't heard it at any of the previous
shows.  anybody remember how any of it how any of it goes?  i was trying
really hard to pay attention and remember lines, but alas my memories
have gone the way of post-concert euphoria induced amnesia.......she said
she didn't even have a title for it yet.  something about grey haired men
sitting around decideding to shed the blood of young men, perhaps?  and a
recurring phrase about time....yikes, you know, emily has some pretty
dang depressing songs lately (both 'leeds' and 'winthrop' make me wanna
give em a big 'ol hug and tell her it'll all be all right and don't cry
honey cause you're breaking my heart here.....ahem, wait, now what was i
saying...)  hope she's not as down as some of her songs.  anyway, i was
just curious if anyone new more about this 'new' song than me.

well, think that does it for me for now.  "hi!" to all my newport/philly
friends :)  i've gotta go prepare myself for the fact that tonight is the
last live ig i'll be hearing for a while.....

peace,
cylinda (in the disguise of her mother's email address...)

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 11:15:00 -0500
reply-to:     nicholas cepeda <ncepeda@faroe.vp.uiuc.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         nicholas cepeda <ncepeda@faroe.vp.uiuc.edu>
subject:      midi files of songs

i was wondering if anyone has midi files of ig songs i can use.  would
like something i can sing with and to help me learn to play them.  thanks!

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ncepeda@s.psych.uiuc.edu

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 14:28:12 -0400
reply-to:     margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
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from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: austin concert/new emily song?
x-to:         sylvia v parga <sparga@tenet.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.91.960821105410.30548a-100000@francis.tenet.edu>

the name of the new emily song is "it's own time."  just thought i'd
chime in since people have been asking.

margaret

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 13:04:09 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@clark.net>
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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      sulli
in-reply-to:  <199608202030.qaa22527@ns1-1.cc.lehigh.edu>

on tue, 20 aug 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

> i talked to sulli some after roseland. she's great. :) she threw me a pick
> after newport. someone was making comments about her being overwhelmed teching
> for the girls because the waits were so long. i'd say, no, it's just that
> she's only one person.

what does "overwhelmed" mean to you?

and it wasn't just the long waits, but, as i said, often a&e had to re-tune.
regardless of the causes of the waits and the poor tuning, i'd expect much
better on a real tour (as i said, no complaints from me since it was a demo
tour, just an observation).

> sulli's a complete professional, and has been in the
> business a long time.

i noted that in my post as well; i remember her teching for kristen hall years
ago, and i know she's been around the atlanta scene for a long time.  i don't
think ig would have brought her along if they didn't respect her abilities.
thus the description "overwhelmed" instead of "incompetent."

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 12:29:08 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      michigan womyns music fest. (nigc)

my good friend arie is looking for anyone out there who was at michigan
womyns music festival this past week and would be interested in sharing
memories with her. arie's e-mail address is rel49@aol.com

thanks, via arie!

        ~abigail
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 12:31:08 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      sorry! (nigc)

apologies to everyone for sending that message 4 times. it was completely
unintentional, my computer was acting up. sorry!


                     ~abigail


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 14:58:09 -0400
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subject:      philly review

thanks to stacy w. for posting the inquirer's review of the philly concert.
however, i found it to be a strange piece of literature.  i was at the
concert and question some of the reviewer's comments. i'm curious to know if
anyone else who was there did so as well.  specifically, the reviewer (sara
sherr) notes:

1.  ''every time we practice, we always end up talking, so we have to come on
stage'' to rehearse, indigo girls' amy ray confessed to a capacity crowd"

i recall emily saying this. am i crazy or was i still in lack-of-sleep-mode
from the nff trip?

2." their intensely loyal fans know every lyric in the atlantans' five-album
catalog."

i count seven.  hmmm?

3. "the purpose of thursday's show was to try out material on the
mega-sellers'
album in progress  -- their first studio set since 1994's swamp ophelia. the
new tunes took up about a third of the set"

actually, they haven't started in on the album yet, have they?  as i recall,
the new songs took up about half the set ?!

4."helping on thursday wasmichelle malone, the joan osborne-like opening act
and former member of ray's daemon records roster"

did i miss something?  is michelle malone no longer on daemon?  i also
question her comparison of michelle to joan osborne.  any comments on that?

5. "according to saliers, she wrote the lyrics to ''leeds'' on the back of a
franklin planner, then lost it in england, only to have it mailed back to
her.

at newport, emily said she lost it in australia.  i couldn't quite hear at
philly, what did she say?

6. "the song most likely to cause a stir when the girls' as-yet-untitled
album
is released undoubtedly will be ''it's alright.'' its line ''don't hate me
because i'm gay'' caused the crowd of fresh-faced college students and
hand-holding lesbian couples (some waving the gay rainbow flag) to erupt in
cheers."

ok, what is the line anyway?  can anyone with a boot clarify this for me?  i
thought it was "it's alright if hate me because i'm gay"  for that matter,
could someone post what they think the words are to the entire song? i'd be
forever grateful as the tune won't leave my head but i have no words to sing
with.  oh yeah, i missed the flag, too..  maybe the philly show was all a
dream .....

thanks for putting up with my ramblings and confusion (i hate to have
incorrect info.  of course, if it's the journalist who has incorrect info,
that's a whole other ballgame!).

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subject:      michigan womyns music fest. (nigc)

my good friend arie is looking for anyone out there who was at michigan
womyns music festival this past week and would be interested in sharing
memories with her. arie's e-mail address is rel49@aol.com

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my friend arie just returned from michigan womyns music festival and she'd
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rel49@aol.com

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subject:      re: sulli

sulli ? que ?

what happened to jimmy ??????

binky

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in a message dated 96-08-20 12:14:02 edt, you write:

<< one other thing:  the crowd was really loud during both of emily's piano
songs and during kind friend.  i think emily got pissed--she went right
into galileo (i think) after the second piano song and didn't even get
amy enough time to get ready.  amy gave her this look like "whoa!" and
you could just tell that emily was ripshit.  i hope someone apologized to
her afterwards.  it was really embarrassing. >>

wow makes me remember how amy told the bumbershoot audience
in '90(91?) when they were previewing new stuff ::: "you are the most
polite and attentive audience of this size we have ever played for...."
(not an exact quote)

lets hope we can do it again ! :)

binkles

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subject:      re: philly review

>4."helping on thursday wasmichelle malone, the joan osborne-like opening act
>and former member of ray's daemon records roster"
>
>did i miss something?  is michelle malone no longer on daemon?  i also
>question her comparison of michelle to joan osborne.  any comments on that?

redemption dream was on daemon, but the new release, bird on fire, will be
on the indie label velvel music (just visit your handy hidden water site
for more info:)

the joan comment got me as well.so did the reference to melissa etheridge
(note both names dwayne :)  from the other review that was posted today.
i'm sorry, in my mind both are like comparing ducks to volvos. michelle is
awesome in her own right.

>5. "according to saliers, she wrote the lyrics to ''leeds'' on the back of a
>franklin planner, then lost it in england, only to have it mailed back to
>her.
>
>at newport, emily said she lost it in australia.  i couldn't quite hear at
>philly, what did she say?

she didn't do leeds at newport. she did at hampton beach and i swear she
said she lost the words in england.

deb

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subject:      realaudio concert

is there a kind soul that could fill me in as to how to set up my computer
so that i can hear the concert as it is being broadcast? i was reading some
of the earlier posts, but most of that was in one ear and out the other...
also, is anyone planning on booting this, if possible? i was thinking of
hooking it up to my stereo and recording like this... any help is
appreciated! thanks bunches!

luvs
tiff

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subject:      re: sulli

<<what happened to jimmy ??????>>

i was wondering the same thing.  especially after having to wait for =
almost an hour in new york, philly, and norfolk for ig to come out after =
michelle malone. this may not have been sulli's fault but she was tuning =
guitars during this time.  my question is: "why couldn't she get =
everything ready before or during michelle malone?"=20

oh yeah, for those of you getting the philly bootleg see if you can hear =
emily's out of tune guitar during "tried to be true." =20

but, i shouldn't complain.  out of tune guitars and other such things =
made each concert a unique experience.  we would have never had the =
pleasure of singing "kumbaya" in norfolk if amy didn't have to tune her =
mandolin.

kris

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              21, 96 02:27:52 pm

i thought she said australia in philly.

> >5. "according to saliers, she wrote the lyrics to ''leeds'' on the back of a
> >franklin planner, then lost it in england, only to have it mailed back to
> >her.
> >
> >at newport, emily said she lost it in australia.  i couldn't quite hear at
> >philly, what did she say?
>
> she didn't do leeds at newport. she did at hampton beach and i swear she
> said she lost the words in england.
>
> deb
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i'd also love any help on setting up my computer to get the concert, if
anyone can assist me with realaudio, please e-mail. thanks!


             ~abigail


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"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
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subject:      realaudio(again)

ok here i go again... i was looking for info about how to do this ra thing,
and i looked at the audionet page and the realaudio page, and neither
mention anything about this concert. is it still happening, or did they
magically make it non-existent?
please email me with any info
thanks again,
tiff

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         my web page!!!!          |lifetime, now i have to pay.-emily saliers
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>
> 2." their intensely loyal fans know every lyric in the atlantans' five-album
> catalog."
>
> i count seven.  hmmm?
>
i guess the reviewer didn't count the two live albums, since most of the songs
on them are on other albums as well.
kirsten


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ok..i read all the posts about the east coast shows..have no idea what
you're talking about emilys tunes on the piano cause i'm stuck near chi
town and won't be able to see any of the tour..would any kind soul please
be willing to make me a copy of these shows..i'll trade, or beg or plead
or what ever youwant..( well..within reason) to hear these shows..please
e-mail you so i can beg further..
pooh

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subject:      ksca tape...

hi all.
i was told by a great friend and harvard-educated lawyer that making copies of
the ksca tape is atl (his code for against the law) and that i should not
undertake this venture. now, this is the same guy who *confirmed* for me that
there is indeed a file at the fbi in my name, so i tend to believe him!!!

i won't be setting up a tape tree because i'm still trying to work my way out
of that illegal pyramid scheme thing i was involved in in 1989.

just kidding!
sorry lovies, i coulda just wrote "no ksca tape" but that wouldn't be mwa

susan

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thanks sharon, for posting the boathouse review !!!!!
right off the bat this popped out at me, causing me to make a marge
simpson noise ( mmmmmmmmmmmmrrrrmmmm....):::::

<< indigo girl blend sturdy sound, twining harmonies
   compared to the current crop of edgy female songer-/songwriters-alanis
morrissette,joan osborne,tracy bonham - the earnest indigo girls are
downright tame. the duo's sturdy sound, built around twining vocal harmonies
and acoustic guitars, toes a safe line between pop and folk. >>

i don't know...when i think of edgy...... the women who come to mind
are patti smith (radio-ethiopia/horses), marrianne faithfull (broken english)
and daimanda galas.....i don't find anything at all edgy about
morrisette/osborne or bonham...however....they do seem to be
the "flavor du jour" these days (and are very "attractive" fantasy figures
to a certain segment of a certain gender---i  could rephrase that it a
more blunt and crude fashion...but i think y'all get my drift ) and don"t
get me wrong...they are  fine and talented artists.

..but i don't know...i think dead man's hill is pretty darn edgy.
(edgier than that morrisette tune about how bitter she is about
her boyfriends infidelity)

wuv !
binky

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ok..i'm  dense again what does ksca stand for..what tape are we talking
about?

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excerpts from mail: 21-aug-96 philly review by mariavee@aol.com
> 6. "the song most likely to cause a stir when the girls' as-yet-untitled
> album
> is released undoubtedly will be ''it's alright.'' its line ''don't hate me
> because i'm gay'' caused the crowd of fresh-faced college students and
> hand-holding lesbian couples (some waving the gay rainbow flag) to erupt in
> cheers."
>


that was us!!!  front row!  holding the flag!  the gay pride flag led
the way into the warehouse as the doors opened!  it was great!  :)

renee

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deanna i'd love to have a copy. please give me the info.

thanks,
derek

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call me weird but i picked up sweet relief 2 and i love it..free at last
is a whole new departure for the girls but it reallly grows on ya..check
it out..its great

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hey all,

does anyone happen to still have the review amy did of ani difranco's new
album, dilate, on hand?  a friend wanted to read it, but i can't find it
in my files.

please forward it to me if you can.  thanks a lot.

carolyn

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subject:      silly question

hi all. as someone who has yet to see amy and emily in person, i have a
rather random and silly question. about how tall would you say they are? i
assume they are about the same height, or maybe emily is just a tad taller?
(funny though, i read one article on them that described emily as tall and
amy as petite!) when i picture them, i guess that they're between 5'5 and
5'8, but really i don't have a clue. so if someone could wager a guess as to
their heights, i'd appreciate it. i know it's an odd thing to care about,
but it occured to me that maybe they are a lot taller or shorter than i've
imagined, and i'd just like to know for some strange reason. :)

                              ~abigail
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i got the newport boot in the mail today!  yay, lucky me!  everything
everyone said that was good about the show is so true.  i wish i could have
been there, but i guess this is the next best thing, and i have bumbershoot
(ten days!!!!)  carolyn did a wonderful job with the boot.  i just wanted
to thank her publicly.  she even made the inserts purple (my favorite
color)!!!!!  i am just having the best day, and i had to share.  love
sundara
p.s. tomorrow i'm going to post a big ole' message about bumbershoot!  bet
you all just can't wait:)

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>
>thanks to stacy w. for posting the inquirer's review of the philly concert.
> however, i found it to be a strange piece of literature.  i was at the
>concert and question some of the reviewer's comments. i'm curious to know if
>anyone else who was there did so as well.

glad you enjoyed it, got it sent from a friend who wanted me to post
it...(hi ruth!!) i admit, the content may not be 100% accurate; i wasn't
able to see the concert in person unfortunately...


>wow makes me remember how amy told the bumbershoot audience
>in '90(91?) when they were previewing new stuff ::: "you are the most
>polite and attentive audience of this size we have ever played for...."
>(not an exact quote)
>
>lets hope we can do it again ! :)
>
>binkles
>
oh, yah!! the memories...!!!! i was there, third row dancing....!!!!
here's to northwest ig fans/bumbershoot goers....!!! this is going to be
-so- amazing...!!!!!!!!!!8->
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subject:      philly inquirer article re: mm

<<for the girls, but do involve new instrumentation. (helping on thursday was
michelle malone, the joan osborne-like opening act and former member of ray's
daemon records roster).>>

ugh!

hey, i saw joan osborne at the uno show on may 4.  and i've seen bds 3 times,
spoke to michelle a few times, blah blah blah.  to put mm and joan osborne in
the same sentence is insulting to michelle.  (i wonder what sarah thinks...)


i admit that all i know is based on hearing/seeing part of that one
performance by joan osborne, so maybe my observations aren't accurate.  but i
didn't like her attitude.  like everybody's gonna swoon at freaking joan
osborne just b/c a lot of the audience is gay.  yeah right.  that's the
feeling i got from her, like "i'm so precious."

anybody else?

"not me baby, i'm too precious, i had to fuck off."  -- chrissie hynde

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 19:44:45 -0400
reply-to:     christopher imershein <imer5924@mstr.hgc.edu>
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hi y'all!

   a few short notes on newport and hampton beach.  newport was
awesome!  wonderful family feeling.  david wilcox, gatemouth brown, and
maura o'connell were great -- michelle shocked was not.  and of course,
as has been already posted, the ig were really on!

   the new songs are great -- i really like get out the map and shame on
you, and winthrop is very touching... i could tell emily was going to have
problems with the mike, both at newport and hampton beach.  she wants to
be able to look down at her hands to be sure she hits the right keys, but
she had to keep looking up and to the right in order to be able to sing
into the mike.  it was interesting to see her struggle.  i'm glad she's
trying new things.  i used to play viola ages ago and i'm currently
performing vintage dance, so i can relate a bit to performing new
things.  it's exciting to see my favorite musical group evolving in front
of me.

   this is already longer then i intended... hampton beach was ok... not
at all like the rest of new hampshire.. more like a misplaced myrtle
beach.  while it was nice to be able to sit for some songs, i really
wanted to be able to get up and jump around and dance and sing for at
least a few songs and security wouldn't let us.  what was kind of cool was
being able to listen to a&e warming up through the bathroom hallway wall
-- security kept moving out the women who came into the hallway to
listen...wasn't even into the men's room.

   the best part (besides the ig of course), was getting to meet all the
list-ers.  i know i haven't posted much so many of you don't really know
me, but everyone was very open and friendly.  a special hello and thanks
to karen-lynn who was especially kind and fun to talk with!

   to those of you who have sent me tapes for boots -- i'll get to them
this weekend, i promise!  to any virgos out there who still want "these
songs (revised)" and to others trying to get a hold of me, please note
that i will be out of touch for about 3 weeks due to maintenance on my
grad school computers and then vacation out to l.a. (anyone else going to
worldcon?  look for me at the regency dance and the babylon 5 party.)

   i look forward to logging back onto the list when i return.

take care all!

chris imershein
imer5924@hgc.edu
"where i come from is a far more interesting place..." -- marcus, babylon 5

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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: philly inquirer article re: mm
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on wed, 21 aug 1996, lorie driscoll wrote:
>
> i admit that all i know is based on hearing/seeing part of that one
> performance by joan osborne, so maybe my observations aren't accurate.  but i
> didn't like her attitude.  like everybody's gonna swoon at freaking joan
> osborne just b/c a lot of the audience is gay.  yeah right.  that's the
> feeling i got from her, like "i'm so precious."
>
> anybody else?


first, i totally agree that it was insulting to compare michelle with joan
osborne.  they are really different musically.  michelle's just an
incredible musician, vocally and instrumentally.

i first saw joan osborne open for melissa etheridge and i remember her
making a comment about how the audience was all lesbians and then
laughing.  she said something like, 'how many men are out there?' and
there wasn't much of a crowd roar.  she then went on to say, 'yeah, i
thought so, especially at melissa etheridge.' then she said something
about the audience not even liking men.  not verbatim, just by memory.
but still kind of jerky.

i missed her performance at uno cause i was outside waiting for front row
tickets to come through.  i was kind of excited to see joan again because
she's not all that bad.  *ducking* but it was worth it to miss her.  the
tickets came through.  plus, i heard she kind of sucked that night.  a lot
of my friends were disappointed because she comes off as having so much of
an attitude problem.  that's too bad.  maybe she's just not dealing with
her stardom well.

hmmm.

oh well.

carolyn

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subject:      re: philly review

i could have _sworn_ that emily commented on losing the lyrics in england
during the introduction to "leeds" at the boathouse...however, when i went
back and listened to my boot of it, nothing was said.  can anyone who
went to the norfolk show clear this up?  am i just going crazy? =}

> i'm sorry, in my mind both are like comparing ducks to volvos.  michelle is
> awesome in her own right.

hear, hear!  i really don't see the similarities between michelle's music and

that of either joan or melissa--in fact, i also don't think that joan and
melissa
sound like each other.  i hate it when singers are heard for the first time
by
reviewers and then are instantly compared to other singers instead of being
reviewed in their own right...a similar thing happened when someone was
describing ani's music to me before i had heard her, and they said that she
sounded like alanis.  again, i just don't see the similarity...okay, i'm
done! =)

peace, love, and understanding,
ponygirl

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subject:      roseland boot

        hi y'all...haven't heard anything about a roseland boot...so my
question is, does anyone have a roseland boot???   jen

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        hi y'all...at the roseland show emily mentioned the song and/or
lyrics had been lost in england.  just wanted to add my thoughts...jen

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subject:      ig article 8/8/96

greetings to all in indigo land!

in my packing frenzy i was looking through a pile of nff related newspapers
i picked up with igc and found an article/interview with emily that my mom
saved for me from the worcester telegram and gazette that ran on aug. 8th.
i am going to post it here for people to read cause it is really cool.  i
am re-printing it without permission, but it's in the spirit of ig.

mood indigo -- indigo girls and newport folk festival, a natural
by scott mclennan

        peanut butter and jelly, indigo girls and newport.  some things
are just meant to go together.  in what has become a summer tradition,
the indigo girls will headline the sunday lineup at the ben & jerry's
folk festival in newport, r.i., this weekend.
        "the physical beauty of the place and receptiveness of the crowd
just makes it one of the best shows for us every year," said emily saliers,
who along with amy ray formed the indigo girls back in 1985.  for the past
five years, the duo has become something of the newport folk festival's
house band.  "we've played in horrible thunderstorms and on absolutley
beautiful days and it's always a great time."
        having expanded upon thier core acoustic-guitar sound with each album,
indigo girls will use this year's newport audience as a guinea pig of sorts
to test out new material.
guerrilla tour
        the show marks only the second concert this year by indigo girls.
saliers and ray have kept their gorgeous harmonies off the road to write
new material for a new record.  after headlining sunday at fort adams
state park, indigo girls will continue a brief guerrilla tour through the
northeast with a show monday at the hampton beach casino in hampton, n.h.
        in newport, saliers and ray will be joined by bassist sara lee and
drummer jerry marotta.  the remainder of the "road test" tour will simply
feature the duo, then it's off to record and back again for some concerts
with the full band.  the new indigo girls album is expected out in the spring.
        saliers said the new material features "more organic" arrangements,
harkening back to the duo's earliest work.  the record also aims to be more
relaxed, she said.
        "we had a year off to collect our lives, and that is coming through
in these songs," she said.  but expect the indigo's to stick to material
that has a philosophical bent, saliers assured.  "and there's a lot of
threads in there about traveling.  i guess you could call this a traveling
album.  is that a hint of a cliche or what?"  saliers said with a laugh.
side projects
        in their relaxed mode, saliers and ray did not completley give their
time to friends, families and pets.  saliers took piano lessons and played in
a band called hash, while ray could be found in the group flunky.  both side
projects stayed in the atlanta area, which saliers and ray call home.
        don't worry indigo fans, the side projects are in no way harbingers
of a breakup.  "it's healthy to work on other things," saliers said.
        as much as the band enjoys checking out new sounds, themes and ways
to present itself (all of which are explored with gusto on the excellent
"1200 curfews" live album the band released last year), there is no
denying that the indigos still treat their fans to the songs they want to
hear.  and that includes the 10-year-old anthem "closer to fine."
        "that song is just part of me now,"  saliers said.  "i never tire of
it.  it's your basic philosopy rah-rah song.  it was the first one played
on the radio by us, so it will always be special."
        no matter how far out the indigo girls choose to go at newport,
assume it will all travel back to the begining at some point.
        the folk fest begins at 8 tomorrow night at the hotel viking,
featuring john gorka, patty larkin, cheryl wheeler and cliff eberhardt.  it's
the first summer version of the "on a winter night" concerts in which these
artists have participated.  the show will still feature song swapping by the
performers, but is now being called "on a summers night."
        the festival moves over to fort adams state park saturday with joan
armatrading playing an acoustic set, john hiatt (who blew away the newport
crowd last year playing a solo acoustic set), ani difranco, suzanne vega,
peter rowan and crucial country (with jerry douglas and tony rice), greg
brown, nashville bluegrass band, martin sexton and leslie smith.
        sunday the bill features indigo girls, michelle shocked, bruce
cockburn, lisa loeb, clarence "gatemouth" brown, maura o'connell, david
wilcox, cordelia's dad and moxy frouvous.
        advanced tickets are available through ticketmaster and may be ordered
by calling 931-2000 in either the 508 or 617 area codes.  tickets for children
under 12 are $15 for the saturday and sunday concerts.

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i hope you all liked the article.  i thought the reporter was a true ig fan
who finally gave the girls their due!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         wed, 21 aug 1996 18:07:39 -0700
reply-to:     robert and frances egan <egan263@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         robert and frances egan <egan263@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: philly review (i.e. ani vs. alanis)

... i hate it when singers are heard for the first time by reviewers
>and then are instantly compared to other singers instead of being
>reviewed in their own right...a similar thing happened when someone
>was describing ani's music to me before i had heard her, and they said
>that she sounded like alanis.  again, i just don't see the
>similarity... okay, i'm done! =)
>
>peace, love, and understanding,
>ponygirl
>

actually, i do see why someone would compare ani to alanis, but since
ani's been around a lot longer, it should be the other way around.  i
see a vague similarity in their vocal stylings with regards to the use
of breath noises in their singing.

just mho,
fran egan

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subject:      re: philly review

>the joan comment got me as well.so did the reference to melissa etheridge
>(note both names dwayne :)  from the other review that was posted today.
>i'm sorry, in my mind both are like comparing ducks to volvos. michelle is
>awesome in her own right.

well now i gotta comment!  :-)  there is no way that michelle compares at
all to melissa or joan.  neither of them has the lungs or the guitar talent.
michelle is just cool as shit.  when she starts belting out the blues, there
just really is no comparison (a 'gentler janis joplin'?  please!  try janis
with real talent and a lot less foreign substance in the veins).

anyway, that is just mho.  michelle rawks.  period.  :)

whatever,

:dwayne

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but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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subject:      ani and alanis

if i ever, ever hear someone in person compare ani and alanis, i fear that i
will get physically violent!  and 'that is not what i do'.  you might as
well compare a child's stick figure doodles to the sistine chapel.  please!!

getting tired of these lame comparisons :-),

:dwayne

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but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 01:39:53 gmt
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subject:      re: midi files of songs
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as an addendum to this (is that spelled/used right?), if anybody knows
whether, should the files exist, they sound like ig and not something
horribly different due to the lack of guitar, i'd love to know that...
thanks,

alec

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subject:      re: philly inquirer article re: mm
x-to:         egg@u.washington.edu

in a message dated 96-08-21 19:48:16 edt, you write: (re joan osborne may 4
not michelle malone! <smile>)

<< plus, i heard she kind of sucked that night.  a lot
of my friends were disappointed because she comes off as having so much of
an attitude problem.  that's too bad.  maybe she's just not dealing with
her stardom well.

hmmm.

oh well.

carolyn  >>

it did suck.  i'm not crazy.  i'm not crazy.

mediamongr, 1996 a.d.

<grrrrin>

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organization: fast fingers
subject:      height of a&e

okay, i can't swear to it, but as someone who stood by each of them
separately last night and had my picture taken with them, i can only
tell you this.  i'm almost 5'8" and amy was a tad taller than i, so
she's probably 5'8" or 5'9".  of course, i had on tennis shoes and i
don't know how much of a heel her boots had.  emily was shorter than me
and i don't remember what shoes she had on either, but i would figure
she's 5'6" or 5'7".  i too have seem pictures where they seem to be
about the same height but i guess it depends on what they were wearing
at the time.  so i'll just say amy was taller than i and emily shorter.
hope that helps your perspective...

cyndi

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subject:      bumbershoot

hi ya'll. if anyone needs a ride to bumbershoot, lat me know. i'm coming
from olympia, so i'd be willing to pick up anyone in the southend.

can't wait till bumbershoot!!

if you haven't heard the new kelly hogan cd - it's great.


jeni

*love isn't dead, it's only hiding
and i know, we can find it inside
if we just let our hearts collide
                                -df, sr

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subject:      realaudio

ok all you computer geniuses out there i need help!!! i downloaded the
realaudio player from netscape but every time i try to use it, i get an
application error and have to close it. everything i've tried has failed. if
anyone knows what i could possibly do, please tell me as i would love to
hear the girls!

thanks a lot,

jendy

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subject:      re: austin concert

howdy!

just a quick post to say austin was really cool and beg for someone to =
have gotten a boot of it. amy did this thing in the middle of chickenman =
that was incredible. one of the lines was "hey blueblood, i come from =
privilege, too" i think (or maybe that was in another song?) susan and i =
both got to meet to a&e (more on that in another post) they are so cool. =
and all the feminine pronouns in the songs were a big hit! we are off to =
dallas tomorrow (bronco bowl) and hopefully a little better view (we =
were up in the trees at the backyard) and sound (it's a bar - people =
talk) but overall - woohoo!!!!!!

peace, love and indigo-a-go-go's

susan and jocelyn

"i'm gonna love you good and strong while our love is good and young" - =
or somethin' like that - get out the map

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i've been helped on here about shawn mullins before so i thought i'd ask
again...i'm having trouble confirming this...is shawn mullins playing
mokabee's coffeehouse in st. louis on aug. 27...if anyone can help me out
here it would greatly appreciated...hoping to see him...anyone with info
please email me----gwen@mo.net-----sorry about the nigc.....
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subject:      flying biscuit

sorry if this is a question that crosses the line in to the girls' personal
lives (if it is, let me know, nicely please :) i heard that emily owns the
flying biscuit cafe in atlanta and am wondering if that's true. like i said,
i hope this isn't an out of line question, but you know, it's a thin line...

                         ~abigail


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: philly inquirer article re: mm

hello, list...
      i have virtually zero minutes to write tonight, but you _know_ i had to
reply to this one...

> ugh!

i could have ysed stronger language, but that pretty much sums it up...

>  hey, i saw joan osborne at the uno show on may 4.  and i've seen bds 3
>  times, spoke to michelle a few times, blah blah blah.  to put mm and joan
>  osborne in the same sentence is insulting to michelle.

i have never seen joan osborne live, but i figured that she must be alright
if ig let her play with them... i have seen michelle a few times... ;)  i
have spoken to michelle a few times, too. =)  to put them in the same
sentence is fine.  to refer to michelle as being similar to her or as some
sort of new guy on the scene, like joan osborne's little protege or
something?  now that's wrong.  and incredibly insulting.  even to me, and
michelle and i aren't even married yet! ;)  first of all, michelle has been a
big part of the atlanta music scene since before i was old enough to go see
her, and jo pops up out of nowhere and gets popular with this ridiculous god
song that i'm not sure that she even wrote... don't get me wrong; i think
she's alright vocally, but anyone who would insult my intelligence by
actually recording this meaningless song about god being a slob is _not_
someone who should even be thought of as any sort of comparison to such an
amazing, poetic, intelligent, beautiful, (did i say that?) musical, funny,
basically incredible woman and performer... i could go on, but it might get
me a little worked up and i have to be at work in a few hours...

>  (i wonder what sarah thinks...)

was there any need to wonder? ;)

>  i admit that all i know is based on hearing/seeing part of that one
>  performance by joan osborne, so maybe my observations aren't accurate.
but
>  i didn't like her attitude.  like everybody's gonna swoon at freaking joan
>  osborne just b/c a lot of the audience is gay.  yeah right.  that's the
>  feeling i got from her, like "i'm so precious."

she is not terribly attractive.  michelle malone is nothing short of walking
perfection.  end of comparison. =)

>  anybody else?

yeah, bring it on! ;)  just thought i'd comment... i'll be off.  peace, love,
and butter biscuits that i'm not going to share with joan osborne, sarah

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 01:54:24 -0500
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subject:      san antonio review/comments

hey y'all,

well, just back from the last stop on my summer ig tour, and what a doozy
it was!  first i just have to relate how totally freakin' annoyed i am
by people who persist in talking through the new songs, especially the
quiet ones like 'leeds' and 'chiapas'.  i had hoped that maybe my fellow
southern fans would be more polite than their northern couterparts, but
it wasn't so, if anything the crowd was worse than the northern shows i
was at......why do people spend 20 bucks just so they can sit and yap
during the performance?  *sigh* there's just no understanding it.  i
think a&e were a bit annoyed by the crowd noise, but they seemed to get
over it and by the end of the show they really seemed into it, looking
_very_ happy.  there were times i swore i thought emily was about to jump
off the stage she was bouncing and smiling so much....not that i would
have minded if she had jumped off the stage, seeing as how i was oh,
about 8 feet or so in front of her for most of the show :)  this was
definately the smallest venue i've ever seen them in, no big bad evil
fence separating fans from the girls, we were pressed right up against
the stage....if you've never seen them this close, you're truly missing a
grand experience, one i hope you have in your life.

some random highlights:
-finally getting to hear 'blood quantum' again.  great song, really intense!

-hearing 'cara mia' for the first time live...said it was the first time
on tour they'd played it

-hearing 'cortez the killer'.  ohmygod.  what more can you say? :)

-they rockin' kick-ass 'shame on you' they did during the encore.  it
just kept going and going and going.....the entire band got so into it.
it was great, at the end of it amy started yelling "gimmie some
margaritas, gimmie some tostadas, gimmie some salsa" and on and on with
other mexican foods, and then she ended by saying "and then you want
these mexicans out of town".  great stuff, espeically considering the san
antonio atmosphere.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!  it just
rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahem, just had to have that moment.  but the great thing is that i know
you all understand :)  where would we be if we didn't have an safe
outlet? well, i'll shut up now, thanks y'all for being here to listen to
post-concert babbles.  i'm jealous of everyone still looking forward to
shows, they oughta be great.  now i gotta go try to accept the fact of no
more live ig until spring.........

gimmie some tostadas :)
cylinda

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 07:29:04 cdt
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subject:      nigc:  dogs & computers
x-to:         mary.j.quady@norwest.com, dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us,
              dreleen@juno.com, mark.meyer@norwest.com,
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from chuckhall@juno.com, on 8/22/96 1:41 am:
to: <jhall@netgate.compaq.com>


the top 20 reasons dogs don't use computers

     20> can't stick their heads out of windows '95.

     19> fetch command not available on all platforms.

     18> hard to read the monitor with your head cocked to one side.

     17> too difficult to "mark" every website they visit.

     16> can't help attacking the screen when they hear "you've
     got mail."

     15> fire hydrant icon simply frustrating.

     14> involuntary tail wagging is dead giveaway they're browsing
     www.pethouse.com instead of working.

     13> keep bruising noses trying to catch that mpeg frisbee.

     12> not at all fooled by chuckwagon screen saver.

     11> still trying to come up with an "emoticon" that signifies
     tail-wagging.

     10> oh, but they will... with the introduction of the
     microsoft opposable thumb.

     9> three words: carpal paw syndrome

     8> 'cause dogs ain't geeks!  now, goldfish, on the other hand...

     7> barking in next cube keeps activating your voice
     recognition software.

     6> smellu-smellme still in beta test.

     5> sit and stay were hard enough, grep and awk are out
     of the question!

     4> saliva-coated mouse gets mighty difficult to manuever.

     3> annoyed by lack of newsgroup, alt.pictures.master's.leg.

     2> butt-sniffing more direct and less deceiving than
     online chat rooms.

    and the number 1 reason dogs don't use computers...


     1> tro{go dsa[m,bn hyaqr4tdc tgroo tgypme weijtyh p;azwqs,. *

--------------------------------
#1 translates to:  to damn hard to type with paws.

theres some pictures in your bag for doug - please give em to him.

me

i

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subject:      re: ksca tape...

if anyone would like a copy of the cd just email me.  i figure i can sale you
the cd for $0.01, then i can leagally copy it for you after making the copy.
i'll buy the cd back from you for $0.01.  that way, everything is perfectly
leagal.  btw, if anyone from the fbi or irs is listening, i hope this really
pisses you off.

very sincerely,

trant


>
> hi all.
> i was told by a great friend and harvard-educated lawyer that making copies of
> the ksca tape is atl (his code for against the law) and that i should not
> undertake this venture. now, this is the same guy who *confirmed* for me that
> there is indeed a file at the fbi in my name, so i tend to believe him!!!
>
> i won't be setting up a tape tree because i'm still trying to work my way out
> of that illegal pyramid scheme thing i was involved in in 1989.
>
> just kidding!
> sorry lovies, i coulda just wrote "no ksca tape" but that wouldn't be mwa
>
> susan
>

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subject:      amy's review of ani's dilate (another request)

<hey all,

<does anyone happen to still have the review amy did of ani difranco's new
<album, dilate, on hand?  a friend wanted to read it, but i can't find it
<in my files.

<please forward it to me if you can.  thanks a lot.

<carolyn

i must have missed this too and i am very interested to read it.  if anyone
still has it, please foreward it to me.  thanks:)

heidi

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subject:      nothing

well, good morning everyone (or afternoon, evening as it may be.) things
have been kind of quiet round here lately, anyone have any creative ideas to
discuss? we could use a good, new thread to pick things up, but i can't
think of any good ideas off the top of my head. i hope everyone's having a
good day, please post!

                            ~ab


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      mm

<well now i gotta comment!  :-)  there is no way that michelle [malone]
compares at
<all to melissa or joan.  neither of them has the lungs or the guitar
talent.
<michelle is just cool as shit.  when she starts belting out the blues,
there
<just really is no comparison (a 'gentler janis joplin'?  please!  try
janis
<with real talent and a lot less foreign substance in the veins).

<anyway, that is just mho.  michelle rawks.  period.  :)

<whatever,

<:dwayne

dwayne, i agree with you in your support of michelle.   until ig's demo
tour, i was unaware of how many devoted fans she has.  believe me, having
travelled across state lines to see her, i'm one of them.  it's great to
see you (and several others in these past few posts) support her so
staunchly.  but, if there "really is no comparison", why are you comparing
them?  i think joan osborne does covers very well, though i prefer
michelle's own material/cover material any day.  i think michelle
definitely surpasses joan o. in talent, though i do not thinkthey are
alike.  as for melissa etheridge, i am no longer a huge fan of hers (since
her last album release), but can you say she lacks guitar and vocal talent?
and how dare you say that janis joplin lacked talent when she has been an
inspiration to so many modern musicians? is it necessary to put down janis
(or melissa, or even joan) in order to prove the point that they are not
able to be compared with mm?  i know how much mm dislikes being compared to
other musicians, but i doubt she'd appreciate anyone putting down janis at
her (mm) defense.

just mho,
heidi

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subject:      honor the earth

two questions:

(1)i purchased tickets to see the ig on september 21 at northrup, however
the fan club info did not list this venue -- does anyone know what is going
on with this?

(2)i tried to retrieve chords for songs from the nevada site but my server
could not find the location -- i have been gone all summer and i was
wondering if they shut the site down or what has happened.

any info would be most appreciated.
thanks
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subject:      thanks

  thanks to all who replied about the inquiry of the indigo girls concert
  update in the md/dc vicinity.  i'm sorry to hear that i missed out on all
  the other concert dates in our area, so i'll just get the bootlegs of
  other concerts.

  thanks again!

       - amy

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subject:      re[2]: ksca tape...

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     hey trant!

     my name is thuy (twee) and i'd really appreciate it if you made a copy
     of the ksca cd for me.  if you give me your address, i'll send some
     money to reimburse you for the tape and shipping costs.  my address
     is:

     thuy cao
     13409 trey lane
     clifton, va 20124

     do you have the newport boot?  if so, could i get a copy of that too?
     thanks a lot, and peace be with you!

     sincerely,

              thuy

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if anyone would like a copy of the cd just email me.  i figure i can sale you
the cd for $0.01, then i can leagally copy it for you after making the copy.
i'll buy the cd back from you for $0.01.  that way, everything is perfectly
leagal.  btw, if anyone from the fbi or irs is listening, i hope this really
pisses you off.

very sincerely,

trant


>
> hi all.
> i was told by a great friend and harvard-educated lawyer that making copies of
> the ksca tape is atl (his code for against the law) and that i should not
> undertake this venture. now, this is the same guy who *confirmed* for me that
> there is indeed a file at the fbi in my name, so i tend to believe him!!!
>
> i won't be setting up a tape tree because i'm still trying to work my way out
> of that illegal pyramid scheme thing i was involved in in 1989.
>
> just kidding!
> sorry lovies, i coulda just wrote "no ksca tape" but that wouldn't be mwa
>
> susan
>

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subject:      ani/amy article

sometimes it pays to be a squirrel......
here is amy's interview with ani that acouple of people have requested.

in the 5/28 issue of 'the advocate' (sharon stone on the cover) is
a review of ani difranco's new release "dilate" and amy is the reviewer.

(reprinted without permission)

the untouchable
(ani difranco, dilate (righteous babe)
reviewed by amy ray

        somehow i end up on the south side of austin, tex., my back against
the wall, sitting on the floor listening to ani difranco's newest creation...
but it isn't ani. "so what is this?" i ask. "utah phillips," ani replies.
"who's that?" "he's a storyteller guy." utah's voice sounds just like the
river of time he keeps talking about, and ani has created the backdrop.
she is like a wide-eyed kid dressing up the stories of her grandfather the
sage, giving them the life they deserve, but it's an apocalypse, and i
feel like i'm in the middle of a vision, a vision of 'swimming to cambodia'
even the light seems to be swaying back and forth.
        and while ani is working on utah's record, the first non-ani album
to be released on righteous babe records, the release of her own cd, "dilate,"
is upon us. ani difranco - producer, musician, label owner, songwriter, patron
of the arts. as i'm listening to utah phillips, i look up on the table and see
a copy of "dilate." "can i have that?" i ask. "sure." is it spelled right?
well, of course it is. i'm sure ani has defined the word dilate a million
times in her mind, but i found something interesting. dilate means not only
"to expand" but also "to enlarge upon; to tell in great detail." ani
difranco's newest release "dilate," is a journey of expansion and detail.
        listening to "dilate" reminds me of the first time i heard "when
i was a boy" by jane siberry. i had no pre-conceived notions of what i wanted
jane's new album to be, because i had not immersed myself in her musical
wanderings. when i heard jane's record i flipped, but a lot of her fans
questioned it because it was different, heavy on the experimental side with
dance grooves and long, intense musings. i'm not comparing the two records
musically, and i'm not sure what ani's audience expects, but "dilate" strikes
me as a different journey - or maybe the conclusion of one. it's very funky,
it grooves, it rocks, but it still breathes the air of a folksinger.
        apparently, ani has no boundaries - personally or musically. she just
does her thing. i can't really criticize any of this cd, because it's so
honest. i picture ani up all night surrounded by instruments she has never
played; she picks them up one at a time, figures them out, then moves on.
ani is just looking for sounds. if she can't find a player to play what she
hears, she plays it herself. so when i looked at the credits to see who is
making all those cool sounds, it is mostly ani.
        ani wants to be a bass player, that's what she tells me, and this
record proves her talent. on "dilate's" opening cut, "untouchable face,"
the bass comes in with melodic confidence and grace, lifting the song to
another level. the bass on the song "shameless" starts out in a funk style
and them moves into a groove. ani manages to move between folk and funk
with ease throughout the record. her longtime comrade in rhythm, drummer
andy stochansky, is blessed with a sense of melody as well as rhythm, which
allows him to play with poetry and really read what is going on in the song.
on songs like "adam and eve" and "outta me, onto you," the drum tracks mirror
ani's dynamic vocal performance. maybe ani wants to be a drummer, too,
because the drum sequences she sets up on "going down" and her cover of
"amazing grace" reflect a true love of rhythm.
        i'm struck by the appropriateness of ani's production. she does not
get self-involved, but she does explore new territory, and her arrangements
are fresh and challenging. ani's guitar-playing is as eclectic and passionate
as ever, but more mature. although ani plays a multitude of instruments on
"dilate," including thumb piano, tenor and steel guitars, organ, synthesizers,
and percussion, she is not afraid to be stark on this record. the minimal
production on the song "napoleon" brings her guitar-playing into sharp focus
with incredible effectiveness. the sweeping song "done wrong" combines all
of ani's talents in one place. the interchange between the vocals and steel
guitar, the instrumental arrangement, the songwriting - the track really is
a palette of many of ani's sensibilities.
        so where else does ani take us? on "untouchable face": "i could make
you happy, y'know / if you weren't already... two-thirty in the morning /
and my gas tank will be empty soon / neon signs on the horizon rubbing elbows
with the moon... you'll look like a photograph of yourself / taken from far
far away." enough said. this song kills me because it really captures a
moment, a texture in time; i can almost touch it.
        ani has grown lyrically as well as musically. she explores themes
that come with age and go with the territory of being a public persona. her
images are detailed, her confessions are intriguingly honest, and her
observations can be unsettling yet valuable, like these lines from "adam
and eve": "you rhapsodize about beauty / and my eyes glaze / everything
i love is ugly / i mean really, you would be amazed." we've all been here;
at least i hope we have.
        this album ends with a redeeming song, "joyful girl." i take this
song as ani's answer to any questions we might have about her motivations
in life. it's a very assuring song - "i do it for the joy it brings / because
i'm a joyful girl / because the world owes me nothing / and we owe each
other the world." if you've never heard ani's music, this record is a good
place to start; if you have, it's a good place to end up.

sharon..... the brit who will be at bumbershoot....... i'll be the one with
the strange accent :)


"i can't imagine having separate careers. my greatest fear is that it'll end."
                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

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subject:      re: nothing ( i am inspired...) :-)

at 09:28 am 8/22/96 -0500, ab wrote:
>well, good morning everyone (or afternoon, evening as it may be.) things
>have been kind of quiet round here lately, anyone have any creative ideas to
>discuss? we could use a good, new thread to pick things up, but i can't
>think of any good ideas off the top of my head. i hope everyone's having a
>good day, please post!
>
it's morning here :-)
but if you say it's quiet, ab... then let's shake this sucker up!!!!!!
<kim looks around herself... no-one... and not a sound....>
uh... well...
you know... i've seen it done on other lists + i think it'd be fun here...
and that's the ol' "famous misheard lyrics" thread:-)
( my favorite all time is def leppard's "love + affection" heard as:
"love + infection"...yikes:-) ) i have no really good misheard ig lyrics,
but would love to add some to my collection...
best i can do is say i remember some listee ( i forget the name... sorry )
a couple of months back posting that she though the girls were singing
"closer i am to fire" ( instead of fine ) + that it gave a whole new
meaning to the song for her... :-) made *me* laugh.... also, i believe
harry keate's wife did a funny mix up... but i can't recall how it went...
anyway... anyone???? care to add to this???
peace all... kim ( who is the slowest tappist to ever hit irc ) :-)
ps... thought my bumbershoot plans had fallen through... but maybe not.
sundara?... sorry i didn't answer right off... will post ya when i know
more... :-)
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     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      re: shangri-la

hi all.  i was wondering if anyone knew about this venue?  i know that it's
an honor cd release "party", it's not listed as a "concert" like in minn.
and i finally figured out that it's in malibu.  does anyone know if a and e
are going to perform or is it really just a "party"? and if it is, who can
go?  can you get tickets through ticket master?
sorry if i'm repeating someone, but i haven't noticed any definitive info
on this, maybe i'm just spacey :)
~renee


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"i used to think it awful that life was so unfair.
but then i thought wouldn't it be so much worse if life were fair and all
the terrible things that happen to us come because we deserved them.
now i take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the
universe."
---marcus cole (character on babylon 5)

      /'^'\                                  /'^'\
     ( o o )                                ( o o )
-oooo--(_)--oooo------------------------oooo--(_)--oooo----
   thousands of years ago the egyptians worshipped cats as gods.  cats
   have never forgotten this.
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subject:      caroline aiken tour schedule

hello all,

coming to you again with caroline aiken's latest tour dates.  we'll have to
cross-post this to catch everyone, so please excuse us if you see this note
more than once.

after a somewhat quiet month of writing and gigging locally, caroline hits
the road next week for the bumbershoot festival in seattle, followed by an
extended west coast trip.  this is your last chance to catch caroline on the
left coast this year, so you won't want to miss her.  (motivated oregon
folks, i need some help in portland and eugene.  please contact me.)

in radio news:  next week, "acoustic cafe," will be airing caroline's
interview and in-studio performance.  this show is syndicated to 43 stations
nationwide and is on 800-some stations worldwide on the "voice of america"
network.  for a list of schedules and stations, surf over to:
http://www.acafe.com or e-mail them at acafe@ic.net.  caroline debuts a new
song that will most likely be the title of her next album.  speaking of...

from the rumor mill:  yes, caroline is currently planning her next album.
yes, it will be a studio album, but with an acoustic slant.  yes, it will
most likely be on a label.  no, we can't say which one, yet.  tentative
plans are to record sometime in december-ish, for a late spring release.
some cool folks have agreed to take part in this one, so as soon as
something's set, you can bet you'll get another note :-)

finally, the next issue of caroline's newsletter, "that's what i heard" is
just about to hit the u.s. mail.  this time around, super-editor rebecca
moore is offering oh-so-cool t-shirts (hey, i'm actually wearing one right
now!) and posters (i'm not wearing that, but it's on my wall).  for a free
newsletter test-drive, you can write to rebecca at:  whatiheard@aol.com.

oh yes, the tour schedule.  here we go:

august 22-24, 1996: st. simons brewery, st. simons island ga
september 1, 1996: bumbershoot festival, seattle wa --wild stage, 5pm
september 3, 1996: borders books, tacoma wa
september 6, 1996: borders books, portland or
september 7, 1996: john henry's, eugene or
september 11, 1996: genghis cantina, los angeles ca -- 9:15pm, two sets
september 14, 1996: kuumbwa jazz center, santa cruz ca
september 18, 1996: 6 chair picking party, nashville tn
september 21, 1996: fiddler's green coffeehouse, atlanta ga
september 27, 1996: cultural arts center, madison ga -- march of dimes benefit
october 10 & 11, 1996: southern lights coffeehouse, fairhope al
october 12, 1996: iron horse, tarpon springs fl -- 8pm
october 19, 1996: the handle bar, greenville sc -- wncw's "beatles for
bucks" benefit
october 24-26, 1996: naca east coast regional conference, lancaster pa
november 1, 1996: habitat for humanity benefit, scottsdale az --venue tba
november 8, 1996: harwood center, albuquerque, nm
december 14, 1996: eddie's attic, decatur ga -- w/ janet mclaughlin
december 28, 1996: unitarian coffeehouse, columbia sc
may 17, 1997: eccles conference center auditorium, logan ut

you can write to caroline at caroline@flylive.com.  she does answer as much
as she can, when those rare quiet moments roll around.

thanks for your continued support.  see you on the road...

lorene machado
manager
on the fly entertainment, p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031
toll free:  (888) 586-7074
e-mail:  lorene@flylive.com
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/

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subject:      9 days till bumbershoot!!!!

wow!  bumbershoot is coming up fast!  so far i have heard interest from
approximately 21 people!  how great would that be if everyone met up!
here's what has been planned.  i want to set up the times for the
line-shifting thing in the next few days.  so if you can, take a look at
the bumbershoot schedule for saturday, (i found the best one in the seattle
weekly, this weeks edition)  if you don't have access to it, let me know,
and i will send you a list of what's happening (it's long, so i don't want
to post it to the list)  most of the music stuff starts at 12, but a lot of
other stuff starts at 11.  i am not sure what time the gates open (if
anyone knows, please share)   let's say that we can start standing in line
at 10, that's 8 hours of line standing.  if we have enough people, we could
break it down to 1/2 hr shifts, or we could do it for an hour.  if anyone
has a preference, let me know, or i will decide based on how many people
are willing to participate.  so, what i need you all to do, is look over
what's happening, and send me a message telling me what time you would be
willing to stand in line, or an alternative would be to tell me which other
shows you absolutely have to see, and i will give a time slot that won't
interfere with that show.  hopefully this will all work out.
after the show, for all those who want to meet up, we are meeting at the
space needle, and then proceeding to the rosebud cafe, where we can hang
out and get coffee or whatever. i will give everyone more details on this
later.  i think that's it. let me know what you think.  love sundara

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   alright, i promised i'd post some thoughts on the austin show day
after but i didn't..i was pretty well worn out! i wish i'd had the guts to
tape that show because it was excellent. if the new songs are any
indication, their next album might be one of their best yet. it seems that
the experimentation they did on so and rop is coming together with the
spirit of their earliest work---their was a strong sense of coming full
circle or at least achieving some subtle breakthrough in these new songs
that perhaps they've been working towards all along. if i recall the setlist
correctly, they opened with reunion, least complicated, then a few of the
new songs...don't give that girl a gun, leeds, then more oldies...hand me
downs, chickenman, then the rest of the new stuff...and then they closed
with closer to fine. now, i've never recognized anything in emily's lyrics
that seems explicitly sexual....and i hope that my gf and i weren't just
harboring dirty minds that night...but at the very end of leeds, emily has a
line about "press your fingers to my open hole and stop the gushing of my
soul on these pristine sheets in the hotel room in leeds"...?????? are we
just wacky?
        now, i have to ask if anyone knows why michelle malone did not make
it to austin to open for ig. i have never been able to find her work when
i've tried so i was curious to see what she's like---however, there is a
musician down here named kris mckay who seems to open for them whenever they
do austin, and she was again the opening act. all i can tell you about her
is that she has a good, solid voice, and plays the guitar fairly well but
she always does cover songs.... so there is no way to judge her songwriting
ability. but she seems to be friendly with a & e, so more power to her.
        to the guy from the list who told me to look for him: i didn't see
your post til' after the concert! maybe next time.....

                                               --beth

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subject:      re: closer to god:-)

at 01:09 pm 8/22/96 est, cynthia wrote:
<snipping, snipping, gently snipping.....> :-)
>
>one of the girls was humming closer to fine and asking the other if she knew
>the song or who sang it.  i nearly jumped over the table i was at to volunteer
>the information when the girl who was humming started to sing "closer i am
>to god" instead of "closer i am to fine".  she said how much she really liked
>the song as well.

lol!!!!!
and...  ( in ref to my 1st post of the day )...
well... at least if she'd been singing "closer i am to fire" she'd'a
known she was no-where *near* god :-)!!!
peace all... kim
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on thu, 22 aug 1996, beth wrote:

> with closer to fine. now, i've never recognized anything in emily's lyrics
> that seems explicitly sexual....and i hope that my gf and i weren't just
> harboring dirty minds that night...but at the very end of leeds, emily has a
> line about "press your fingers to my open hole and stop the gushing of my
> soul on these pristine sheets in the hotel room in leeds"...?????? are we
> just wacky?

i have to admit that i thought i heard wrong each time i've heard her
sing that line.  whoa!  it definitely made *my* mind wander...

margaret

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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      amy the city girl :)

has anyone noticed the facination amy has with cities and their
personalities?  how many songs has she sung about cities/places "on the map"!
wow, can touring really do this to the focus of an artist?

jude:)  <==just wondering on govt time....

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subject:      i'm lame but i'm wealthy, baby
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dragonman says:

> if i ever, ever hear someone in person compare ani and alanis, i fear that i
> will get physically violent!  and 'that is not what i do'.  you might as
> well compare a child's stick figure doodles to the sistine chapel.  please!!

right on, hombre!

i-girl

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subject:      "girls with anorexia"

hey list folks...

i've seen amy do chiapas bound twice now, and was taken aback both times by
the opening line...

something..."girls with anorexia..."something else

i tried the second time to listen closer to the surrounding words, but
could't make them out.  does anyone know what they are and how it relates to
the rest of the song?

thanks for your help.

kevin s minoli, whose local record store assures me that the honor cd has not
been released yet...?

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subject:      misheard lines

okay, kim suggested it,  i'll start with one,  i always thought they were
singing "i went in seeking parity"  instead of "i went in seeking clarity"
in ctf.  now, i don't even really know what parity is, or if it is even a
word, yet it made sense to me up until i figured out what they were really
singing.  i guess i have my own little definition of parity, although it's
just an abstract thought in my head, and i was amazed that someone sang it
and used the word.  silly me.  love sundara

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subject:      ksca

hey, does anyone know how many minutes the ksca (or kcsa, i always forget)
cd is? i need to know how long of a tape to send trant, and he doesn't
know either.  thanks in advance!  love sundara

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subject:      re: nothing ( i am inspired...) :-)

in a message dated 96-08-22 12:58:06 edt, you write:

<< harry keate's wife did a funny mix up... but i can't recall how it went...
anyway... anyone???? care to add to this??? >>

"what would you giiiiive for your catfish ?"

(thats the harry's wife one :)
(heh,heh..)

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subject:      misunderstood words

okay, here's one that i misunderstood for at least 6 months....

in joking, at the end, when emily is singing "i'm a dying man... don't know
what for..."
i thought she was singing  "i'm a dying man... down on the floor...."  but
my best friend caught me one day and said, what the hell are you singing?
only then did i know the truth.

corinne
p.s.  bumbershooters, do you realize that if ig goes in the studio on
september first, then we are the last true test audience?   i always knew we
were the coolest.

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subject:      new newsletter

someone mentioned that they received the new ig newsletter.  has anyone
else received it?  i know i'm on their mailing list, but have yet to
receive it.

thanks,
- jen hall

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subject:      least complicated?

i was thinking today and it occurs to me that where i once thought i knew
what "the hardest to learn is the least complicated" meant, i have absolutely
no clue.  does anyone have any ideas on this?  i know that on 1200c emily
says that she wrote this when thinking about her first boyfriend and how
she gave him a ring and it wasn't the cool thing to do...i'm interested
to find out what people think was hardest to learn.  opinions?


denise

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subject:      you be the director !!

o.k. abigail...you asked for it !

i have been taking some film classes lately which has had me looking at
the structure of films and videos...even before that i have often found
myself listening to a song and directing a video for it in my head......
now i know i can't be the only one !

for instance i had an idea for "this train (revisited)" which
ripped off speilberg in a way....i invisioned the song over archival
footage from the holocaust along with contemporary footage of
recent examples of genocide, intercut with ig performing
(shot in grainy black and white)...at the end (this is where i rip
off spielberg)...when the music box is playing...i would have a long
shot in b & w of a pile of personal possesions and the camera would
slowly zoom in on the pile to a music box (playing)..the box being
'colorized' in the maner of the girl in the red coat in 'schindlers list"

for "shame on you" i see a lot of quick cuts of real people working and
celebrating... as ar describes in the song....i would use the style
of camera work that i have seen in the latest dmb vid and nirvana's
'heart shaped box" where each cut is accentuated by a flash of light.
i would have amy interacting with the people she is singing about.
and would include a shot of some "beautiful ladies" walking by amy
and giving her a 'look', followed by a quick cut to amy blushing....
with the to the line "and when the beautiful ladies .......(you know)"

so...what would you do ????????

love !
binky (backseat director:)

"i can almost run, fly, listen.....like the animals do..."
(laura "earth mother" nyro)

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subject:      upcoming live appearances down south (nigc)
x-to:         atlartists@mindspring.com

perry at rdr wants all to know:

kristen hall will be playing at grey eagle in black mountain nc on
aug 31.  no otehr details here, call the club. (kristen asked us
to post this for her)

martin sexton, the next hot acoustic star, will be playing at rainy
day records on sat the 7th of sept at 5 pm.  if you have not heard
of or seen martin, you really oughta.  he is totally something else and
will blow you away.  martin will also be doing his own show at eddie's
attic that same night and will be part of the writer's night at eddies
on sunday, the 8th.  for more details abotu these shows, call rainy
day records at 1-800-636-6166.

thanks :)

amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      kristen hall in boston
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i shouda added this.  kristen hall will be here in boston on oct 5, at the
somerville theatre in davis square.  it is a good bill with richard
shindell opening, then kristen, then the burns sisters (celebrating an
album release).  so, kristen will have a good long set.  tickets are still
available, good tickets.  for more info or to order tix, call rick
at songstreet productions at 617-628-3390.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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              "mmedido@aol.com" at aug 22, 96 3:31 pm

> for "shame on you" i see a lot of quick cuts of real people working and
> celebrating... as ar describes in the song....i would use the style
> of camera work that i have seen in the latest dmb vid and nirvana's
> 'heart shaped box" where each cut is accentuated by a flash of light.
> i would have amy interacting with the people she is singing about.
> and would include a shot of some "beautiful ladies" walking by amy
> and giving her a 'look', followed by a quick cut to amy blushing....
> with the to the line "and when the beautiful ladies .......(you know)"


oooo good question!

the lasting image i get is amy and emily looking straight into the
camera with goofy looks on their faces shaking their index finger at
us as the chorus goes "shame on you".

you could see that being a theme of course.  during the last verse
which is explicitly about immigration, i'd do a ins officer pulling
over a beatup car with "sterotypical illegals" in it, then jump cut to
amy leaning out the window letting the officer (complete in beige,
sunglasses, and ranger hat) have a piece of her mind, then doing the
finger wave at the officer over the shame on you's (maybe have her
driving off leaving him standing there looking stupid).

it would be fun and it would be a way to send the  message of the song
without lecturing and turning folks off....

                                -- chris


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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:06:41 edt
reply-to:     tamara mizell <103660.214@compuserve.com>
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from:         tamara mizell <103660.214@compuserve.com>
subject:      re: "girls with anorexia"

>something..."girls with anorexia..."something else

>i tried the second time to listen closer to the surrounding words, but
>could't make them out.  does anyone know what they are and how it relates to
>the rest of the song?

i think it's.... "all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight..."  but
then again, there's always possibility that i could be wrong.

tamara
(who only *very* recently figured out what emily was referring to by saying
"...all the old dogs and the magician..." in the wood song... and felt like a
complete moron for not getting it sooner!)

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 21:10:46 gmt
reply-to:     lloydbtc@pipeline.com
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from:         heidi lloyd <lloydbtc@pipeline.com>
subject:      ar article thanks

thanks so much to sharon, bluering, and carolyn for making sure i got to
read amy ray's review of ani difranco's dilate:)  thanks too to all of you
that would've if you could've.  list people are so great!
heidi:)

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:13:50 -0400
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      anthonys tape tree
x-to:         heidi lloyd <lloydbtc@pipeline.com>
in-reply-to:  <199608221618.qaa17520@pipe1.t2.usa.pipeline.com>

do not mail out your tapes ot me for the tree if you have not already im
going to be moving the papers are going to be signed tuesday i dont wanna
take a chance of anyones getting lost in the mail so my tape tree folks
wait till i tell u ive moved then ill tell u my new addy if youve sent it
already  dont worry it shoudl reach me
hgus anthony van pyre

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 21:14:55 gmt
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subject:      thanks--oops! (nigc)

how could i forget to thank stacy? for sending me the article too.  sorry,
stac...
h:)

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:38:54 -0400
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: least complicated?
x-to:         denise eng <deng@vnet.ibm.com>
in-reply-to:  <199608221916.paa28534@netspace.org>

i think it refers to lifes lessons that appear simple and actually are but
are a pain in the ass and cant really be taught think of growing up and
some of the things u learned then sometimes the simplest things stump you
most genius's dont have common sense or cant do simple things
husg anthony van pyre

on thu, 22 aug 1996, denise eng wrote:

> i was thinking today and it occurs to me that where i once thought i knew
> what "the hardest to learn is the least complicated" meant, i have absolutely
> no clue.  does anyone have any ideas on this?  i know that on 1200c emily
> says that she wrote this when thinking about her first boyfriend and how
> she gave him a ring and it wasn't the cool thing to do...i'm interested
> to find out what people think was hardest to learn.  opinions?
>
>
> denise
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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:41:50 -0400
reply-to:     margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
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from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      re: "girls with anorexia"
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it's (i believe):

all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight/
and the boys in the band think they look all right


margaret

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:52:21 -0400
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subject:      austin boots?

i haven't noticed any messages about a boot of the austin show from
the other night, and i was just wondering if anyone taped it.  i would
_love_ a boot of this show...if you can help, please e-mail me and we
can set up a trade. =)  thanks, y'all!

peace, love, and maps,
ponygirl

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 16:10:12 -0600
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subject:      how to get "no curfews"

hey there y'all,

okay, the tape tree should now be in place to get your copy of "no curfews"
my personal bootleg compilation tape. to get a copy of the tape simply
write to your branch (sign) and get their mailing address. once you have
that you need to send them a blank 90 min tape, a stamped and return
addressed envelope so they can mail it back to you easily , and a note
reminding them that your blank is for a copy of no curfews (very important!
some branches are on more than one tree--so they need to know exactly what
you want).
what's on this tape? some of my favorite live versions:

side a
ballad of squeaky fromme (6/10/90 wfrg)
southland in the sprintime (unknown show)
prince of darkness (3/19/88 carrboro,nc)
everybody's waiting... (5/17/88 wrek)
chickenman (8/9/90 the roxy-atlanta)
romeo and juliet (4/27/91 university of rochester)
the woman in me (8/9/90 the roxy-atlanta)
the water is wide (club r&r)
i wanna be your lover (unknown show)
love's recovery (6/21/91 red rocks)

side b
no way to treat a friend (4/18/91 blacksburg, va)
weakness in me (unknown show)
holy city (golfing buddy bootleg)
hey jesus (11/13/87 chapel hill, nc)
pushin' the needle too far (shades of indigo)
play it again, sam (4/22/90 washington, dc)
fugitive (iwtoc)
down by the river (nff '95)
reunion (7/1/95 radio session 1)
closer to fine (7/1/95 radio session 1)

the people below are branches of the tape tree.   most of them have already
gotten their tape to me and i have dubbed them and sent them back already.
if anyone has any questions or problems you can write to me at
sun@swcp.com


aries--susan
sguardino@vnet.ibm.com

taurus--kellie
kdeis@kent.edu

gemini--cynthia
crecca@admin.njit.edu

cancer--melissa
mkennell@baldwinw.edu

leo--leah
mary.l.anderson-8@tc.umn.edu

virgo--karra
kmcleroy@umich.edu

capricorn--sundara
smurphy@ups.edu

libra--bon  (and canada)
bonster@alaska.net

scorpio--kevin
kevinc@adainc.com

sagittarius--melissa
hdtx97a@prodigy.com

aquarius--gwen
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

pisces--kewl kay
stu_kaswenne@jmu.edu

for people in the uk
juliet
j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk

and for people in asia/australia
anna
ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph

for those in canada
bon
bonster@alaska.net


     i have already started on volume 2 of no curfews, so if any of you
have personal live favorites drop me a line and let me know what they are
(date and place of show).  i am also starting on a video compilation.  this
is gonna take a few  months but it will be well worth it.
i leave tomorrow for an ig road trip to las cruces, santa fe and mesa, az
so i wont be checkin' my mail until wednesday if there are any problems.
all skate.  now reverse.       :)

                        --sunny

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 18:31:44 -0400
reply-to:     emily k graves <ekgraves@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
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from:         emily k graves <ekgraves@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      misheard lines
in-reply-to:  <199608222023.qaa02737@netspace.org>

don't even ask me why i didn't question what i heard in "power of two"
until weeks/months after i originally heard it.  laziness i guess, but
when emily says "parking lot" in the first few lines i heard "pork and
light".  i know, i know, it's really stupid... hope a few people have
laughed. :)

emily
ekgraves@mtholyoke.edu
http://home.mtholyoke.edu/~ekgraves

lipstick criminal moonlight

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:20:41 cdt
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subject:      honor the earth events

there have been additional questions about the ig & the honor the earth events
here is what is going on

there are two receptions--one in new york at the supper club on septe 19th
and one in malibu at beejtar studios (formerly shangri-la) on october 17th
both of these will be reception, dinner and showcase concert

new york--hosted by susan sarandon, gloria steinem, jane fonda, ted turner,
           more.  performances by ig, jane siberry, sherman alexie, ulali,
           john trudell.  costs $250, $500 & 1,000.  the higher the price
             the better the seat.

malibu--hosted by beej & sarah chaney; ellen degenerais; more.  performances
        by ig; toad the west sprocket; ulai; joy harjo; john trudell; bonnie
        raitt; more.  costs $250; $500 & $1,000.  $1,000 tickets get special
        cd re cording of some of the songs played that night

there is one concert (so far) on sept. 20 at northrop auditorium on the univer
sity of minnesota minneapolis campus.  shot  showtime is 7:30 pm--concert is
headlined by the ig with other performances by sherman alexi/jim boyd, buc
bruce cockburn and indigenous.  tickets are $23 & $25 plus service charge and
ab  available at ticketmaster 612-989-5151

call 612-221-4465 and ask for raquel or russ for more infor mation or email
me at omi@dexmn.com with questions

thansk   for your time and interest
peace, russ

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 15:50:20 -0700
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subject:      ksca

okay, for all of those that are getting a copy of kcsa from trant,  for one
penny :), the cd is about 75 minutes, so you will probably need a 90 min
tape.  love sundara

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subject:      re: pork + light:)

at 06:31 pm 8/22/96 -0400, emily wrote:
>don't even ask me why i didn't question what i heard in "power of two"
>until weeks/months after i originally heard it.  laziness i guess, but
>when emily says "parking lot" in the first few lines i heard "pork and
>light".  i know, i know, it's really stupid... hope a few people have
>laughed. :)
>
me... i laughed... :)
it also reminded me of a time not so long ago when we did "the ig's
visit the muppet show" :-) i had kermit + miss piggy getting in a
car headed out to the country, whilst a+ e sang power of two in the
back ground. i mean, if kermie + miss piggy aren't pork + light, i
don't know what is. :-)
peace... kim ( who just loves binky's idea for a new thread + is setting
her own tiny mind to something creative....) :-)
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<><><><><><>
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"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 18:52:26 -0400
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subject:      re: philly inquirer article re: mm
x-to:         sanawike1@aol.com

okay so i have to admit that i've only seen mm once & only heard her sing...
once. at the uno show. same night, same stage as joan osborne. and in my
humble little opinion they were both fantastic!! i think they both have
incredibly interesting voices (although hearing michelle's singing "wild
horses" took my breath away completely!!).

joan was a little... what's the word we want? hmmm i don't know. i mean her
performance was a little bit like here i am; i'm the performer... there you
are; you're the audience and that was sorta it... not at all like the ig, no
interesting conversation between songs or anything like that. but i don't
think that made her performance really bad, i mean last week i saw tracy
chapman who hardly spoke as well.

anyway  as for her not writing the god song the funny thing is that one of us
is probably the lamest song on her album. i think everything else stands out
as excellent and she co-wrote many of them....

i'm obviously not saying that joan is better than michelle (obviously cuz i
still  haven't heard a michelle malone song) but just that i think she's
purty darn good, her album is one of my treasures from this last year because
it's not like most of the crap being put out by the majors & that well, :) i
like her. :)

rick
    would share butter biscuits with joan, but only if she sang "pensacola"
for him. :)

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 15:52:38 -0700
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: ksca
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the ksca cd only has reunion on it right?  from ig anyway...


just wondering,
wendell

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 18:11:19 -0500
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subject:      url of real audio concert?

does anyone know the url of the real audio concert tonight?  (that is
tonight... right???  i haven't goofed and missed it, have i?)

marianne

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 19:18:17 -0400
reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: url of real audio concert?

at 06:11 pm 8/25/96 -0500, you wrote:
>does anyone know the url of the real audio concert tonight?  (that is
>tonight... right???  i haven't goofed and missed it, have i?)
>
>marianne
>

is someone going to boot this? i'd like to know this too... please post to
the list!! thanks alot!

tiff

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 18:29:57 -0500
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subject:      misheard lyrics

ooh, this is a good thread idea, here are my contributions:


1) i was awfully bummed when i stopped to read the lyrics to secure yourself
and found out that there was no such line as "solitude the air i breathe"
i've learned to love the real line, but still like my interpretation of it too.

2) i completely misunderstood a line in ghost and it was well over a year
before i heard that it was actually "my bitter pill to swallow is the
silence that i keep." i'd always visualized a swallow (the bird that is)
winging in circles silently, and the line about the pill really grosses me
out because it reminds me of having to down drammamine tablets, which
inevitably melt on the tongue--very nasty!

2.5) my best friend thought, until i corrected her one day, that the bury my
heart line went "bury my heart at wounded knee/cover me with fertilizer!"

3) one thing that emily's lyrics never fail to do is increase my vocabulary.
i sometimes even wind up having to pull out a dictionary and look up words
from her songs. one line i misheard for an extremely long time was "the
upper echelons of mediocrity" from you and me of the 10,000 wars. i'd never
heard the word echelon and took the line to be "the operation lines of
mediocrity" which seemed to make perfect sense at the time.

then again, this is all coming from the person who tried to research
'sejarez' convinced that it had to be some cool poet. turns out that the
line from world falls "sejarez said, 'don't let go, just plant the seeds and
watch them grow'" was based on a dream that amy had! i was feeling more than
a little dumb when i found that out!

                       ~abigail


p.s. one of the funniest misheard lyrics i've come accross was someone who
thought the line in tangled up in blue went "she lit a burner on the stove
and offfered me a crepe!"
(it doesn't sound like that on the girls' cover of the song, but the on
dylan version, the line  is a little unclear, so i guess it's understandable.)
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 19:26:02 -0400
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subject:      re: "girls with anorexia"

hmm


i think it's


all the girls with anorexia are on the streets tonight
the boys in the band think they look alright....


although when they did this at the nojf show some drunk dork behind me kept
saying "boys with bulimia???" :p


:)
rick
    pine-fresh and eating disorder-free

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 17:29:33 -0600
reply-to:     sunny <sun@swcp.com>
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from:         sunny <sun@swcp.com>
subject:      santa fe show on sunday

hey y'all,

   i wanted to drop a few lines about the santa fe, nm show on sunday.  i
know there are a few of you coming in from out of town.  first off, the
paolo soleri ampitheater is an outdoor venue.  it is very small, only about
3,000.  right now is the tail end of our monsoon season.  we usually get
hit late in the afternoon with a pretty good downpouring of rain.  it only
lasts for about an hour and then the sun comes back out, but it will make
you cold if you get wet.  <mother suit on> bring some rain gear y'all.
second, ig doesn't usually sell out here, but people start getting in line
for the show at 6:30-7:00 am.  no kidding!  i've gone as early as the night
before and put my shirt on the ground under a couple of rocks (and then
been chased by security...).  being front row in santa fe means you can put
your feet up on the stage and a & e are about 8 ft away at eye level--you
can count the stitches on amy's boots.  so, this is a very competitive
spot, get there early. security is kinda strict.  the paolo soleri is on
the campus of an indian school.  security will search your bags and
blankets and will pat you down as you go through the gate.  tapers and
picture takers be careful.  let your friends carry things in, just have
your ticket in your hand.  it's a great place to see an ig show, and they
love playing here.  they come about once a year and usually comment on how
the first 2-3 songs are just practise because they have to get used to the
lack of oxygen due to the high altitude.  it's gonna be a blast!  see ya
there in my list shirt.  yee ha!

                        --sunny

directions to the paolo soleri: if you are going north on i-25 take the
first exit called cerillos.  the paolo soleri is on cerillos about a mile
or two past the villa linda mall.  it's gonna be on your left.  it is
behind santa fe indian school.  there are brown stucco walls with metal
gates.  enter through the gate that says paolo soleri on it.  if you see
santa fe school for the deaf you have gone too far north.  hope this helps.

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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 19:36:04 -0400
reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: misheard lyrics

at 06:29 pm 8/22/96 -0500, you wrote:
>ooh, this is a good thread idea, here are my contributions:
>
>
>1) i was awfully bummed when i stopped to read the lyrics to secure yourself
>and found out that there was no such line as "solitude the air i breathe"
>i've learned to love the real line, but still like my interpretation of it too.
>
>2) i completely misunderstood a line in ghost and it was well over a year
>before i heard that it was actually "my bitter pill to swallow is the
>silence that i keep." i'd always visualized a swallow (the bird that is)
>winging in circles silently, and the line about the pill really grosses me
>out because it reminds me of having to down drammamine tablets, which
>inevitably melt on the tongue--very nasty!
>
>2.5) my best friend thought, until i corrected her one day, that the bury my
>heart line went "bury my heart at wounded knee/cover me with fertilizer!"
>
>3) one thing that emily's lyrics never fail to do is increase my vocabulary.
>i sometimes even wind up having to pull out a dictionary and look up words
>from her songs. one line i misheard for an extremely long time was "the
>upper echelons of mediocrity" from you and me of the 10,000 wars. i'd never
>heard the word echelon and took the line to be "the operation lines of
>mediocrity" which seemed to make perfect sense at the time.
>
>then again, this is all coming from the person who tried to research
>'sejarez' convinced that it had to be some cool poet. turns out that the
>line from world falls "sejarez said, 'don't let go, just plant the seeds and
>watch them grow'" was based on a dream that amy had! i was feeling more than
>a little dumb when i found that out!


wow, do i feel dumb!! i did the same thing you did! i was going through
books trying to find out who sejarez was, and going crazy not finding it.
wow, i feel so dumb! well, thanks for solving my problem!!
dumb and dumber,
tiff(the dumber one!)

>
>                       ~abigail
>
>
>p.s. one of the funniest misheard lyrics i've come accross was someone who
>thought the line in tangled up in blue went "she lit a burner on the stove
>and offfered me a crepe!"
>(it doesn't sound like that on the girls' cover of the song, but the on
>dylan version, the line  is a little unclear, so i guess it's understandable.)
>****************in the words of emily saliers:******************
>
>"there i am in younger days
>stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
>of how my life and love would be
>not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
>my compass, faith in love's perfection
>i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"
>
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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 18:43:13 -0500
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      blood and...fire!

ok, very weird occurance today. i was walking down the street, listening to
ig through my headphones, and amy was crooning away at blood and fire. all
of a sudden, just as she gets to the line where she sings the line "nothing
left but blood and fiiiii-uuuuurr," really drawn out, a fire engine comes
roaring down the street, and turns in to a parking lot right next to me! the
fire turned out to just be someone's engine overheating, but even so, quite
a coinky-dink i'd say.

                       ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      mister limes...er, misheard lines

> "what would you giiiiive for your catfish ?"

ooh!  thanks, binkster--that reminds me of the "king of night fishing"
one, although i don't remember who originally misunderstood it...=}
oh, and back to michelle (sarah, you're going to kill me =)--the first
time i heard "medicated magdalene", i thought she was saying
"medicated mandolin".  and the pitiful part is that i was sitting no
more than 3 feet away from her! <ducking to avoid flying vegetables
and fruits...>

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subject:      re: you be the director !!

> amy leaning out the window letting the officer (complete in beige,
>  sunglasses, and ranger hat) have a piece of her mind, then doing the
>  finger wave at the officer over the shame on you's (maybe have her
>  driving off leaving him standing there looking stupid).

good idea--or she could just stick her middle finger out of the window
at the officer while she was driving off after the 1694 part...

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subject:      re: misheard lyrics
in-reply-to:  your message of "thu, 22 aug 1996 18:29:57 cdt."
              <1.5.4.32.19960822232957.0070ec28@mail.execpc.com>

abigail <abaroo@execpc.com> writes:
> 1) i was awfully bummed when i stopped to read the lyrics to secure yourself
> and found out that there was no such line as "solitude the air i breathe"
> i've learned to love the real line, but still like my interpretation of it to
> o.

err... um... those aren't the actual words?  *runs over to check the
cd booklet*  well, whaddaya know.. learn somethin' new every day on
the net.. :)

    -jude

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subject:      i'm back and where's jan

hello all! i'm back from europe and i'm on again. i just got to school
yesterday and i'm stilll jetlagged. anyway, i heard many a wonderful ig
things occured while i was away. a tour? how was newport? my best friend
called me up in salzburg and told me she had two tickets for the philly
show on the 15th. alas i had a concert and could not change my flight so
i was really depressed for a week. then i'm in tower records today
looking through the ig section and i see a sign "on tour - august 26th -
mesa amphitheatre". i hauled ass to dilliards and bought myself two tickets.
    anyway, i heard the highlight of the show is "shame on you". i heard
amy screams for five minutes. i would just lose my shit if that happened.
i hope she does it on monday.
    also, i have to make a bootleg apology. i still owe a few of you out
there some bootlegs. if you would be so kind as to give me your
name,address and what boot i owe you i would really appreciate it. i will
get them out to you asap!
  last thing- does anyone know where jan is(the one who lives in
scottsdale,az)? i need to talk to her and i lost her e-mail address. if
someone has it could they mail it to me,please! i think she left the list
but i'm not quite sure.
ok that's it. love y'all lots,
ben

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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

at 09:33 pm 8/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>abigail <abaroo@execpc.com> writes:
>> 1) i was awfully bummed when i stopped to read the lyrics to secure yourself
>> and found out that there was no such line as "solitude the air i breathe"
>> i've learned to love the real line, but still like my interpretation of it to
>> o.
>
>err... um... those aren't the actual words?  *runs over to check the
>cd booklet*  well, whaddaya know.. learn somethin' new every day on
>the net.. :)
>
>    -jude
>
someone i was chatting with swore the lyrics to pod was:
this place is of the sun
this place is of the moon

sure it is...

lol!
tiff
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subject:      recurring images in ig albums

        while we're quoting misheard lyrics, has anyone noticed that beer,
dogs, and math are recurring images in ig lyrics? with emily always summing
up the total of a love that's true and multiplying life by the power of two,
or she could 'stick the right formula in, there's a solution for every
fool', ...and in "you and me of the 10,000" wars...'dividing life in to
factions of pleasures and chores".."try making one and one and one make
one.." <--i'm sure there are more, but i don't have lyrics in front of me at
the moment.....  now  beer... emily goes in for a beer in ctf, she had "a
few too many" that made her think she could argue with god in "hey jesus",
amy "bought you a beer, it's too corny to cry"....and even in jonas and
ezekial there's a part where i think they're saying "fear" just before "a
bullet in the head", but it sounds just like beer. on so, even the ig's
mentioned in some interview that there were dogs all over that album: "the
old dog and the magician", "gaurds like watchdogs, dogs in a manger",
"barking dogs, older brothers, late night bars"...  anyway, it's fun to
track these things. has anyone else noticed recurring themes/images, silly
or otherwise????


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date:         thu, 22 aug 1996 22:41:48 -0500
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subject:      "girls w/ anorexia"

i thought that "girls with anorexia" was what "chiapas" was about.  i could
be wrong but " the boys in the band think they look all right" could mean
it's a hard disease to recognize. "you seem like a girl with the world on
your side" means it usually happens to girls who seem perfect like models,
etc.  and "you were free for what someone thinks you should be, and i know
just how that feels" means that the "girls with anorexia" were driven to it
by others' expectations of their looks.  this is my interpretation. what do
y'all think?

just talkin' for awhile,
rob

        kevin wrote:
i tried the second time to listen closer to the surrounding words, but
could't make them out.  does anyone know what they are and how it relates to
the rest of the song?

thanks for your help.

kevin s minoli,

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subject:      re: secure yourself lyrics

what is the real line if it isn't solitude the air i breathe (i don't have
the booklet?

btw i'm new and man am i glad i found this place...heaven on earth!

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subject:      medicated m____?

pony,

ya sure mm's song is medicated magdalene?  i've thought of both that and
mandolin and can't decide.  how do you know?  do you know the lyrics to
that song?

heidi:)
still curious?

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subject:      dogs in a manger?

okay... since i get the part in tws about "...all the old dogs and the
magician", my mind is wandering to other not-so-understood phrases like
"....dogs in a manger...".  sorry if everyone else has already gotten this.
could someone help me in understanding what dogs in mangers have to do with
anything?

oh, and for those of you who were curious about that part in tws, i have eight
words for ya.... "you can't teach an old dog new tricks."  :)  what do ya think?
am i completely missing the mark??

tamara

p.s.  good luck to all of y'all who started back to school recently... it is
times like these when i remember the words of bill... er, uh... mr. clinton...
"i feeeeelll your pain!"

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subject:      re: secure yourself lyrics

at 10:47 pm 8/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>what is the real line if it isn't solitude the air i breathe (i don't have
>the booklet?

the line is "solid to the air i breathe"

                  :)~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

i thought of another one, not that it's a great one, but here ya go anywaze:

-pushin the needle too far: i always thought that the line "a cat that has
died" was "the captain has died" i had these images of amy dressed as a sea
explorer (red button-down jacket, frilly white shirt, black hat, possibly a
hook for a hand...) wringing her hands (or hook) because, the captain of the
ship had just been thrown overboard and buried at sea.
or else, you could get some interesting star-trek images too--oh no, the
captain has died! yeah, i'm weird...what can i say? i try :)


           ~abigail


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: misunderstood lyrics & least complicated

a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig

misunderstood lyrics?

blood and fire

     "...wet my thigh with your love..."

        8-)

a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig


>subject: least complicated?
>
>i was thinking today and it occurs to me that where i once thought i knew
>what "the hardest to learn is the least complicated" meant, i have absolutely
>no clue.

she's could be talking about loving someone. from personal experience,
coming out and admitting to being gay was tough. the preliminary steps in
loving the first were awkward, geeky, uncomfortable, and oh so hard. but it
became the least complicated thing in the world to love a woman as my
nature dictated.

a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig a+e=ig

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subject:      sneaky melodies

don't you just love the way emily manages to sneak in familiar tunes in some
of the instrumental parts of their songs. i'm talking about how if you
listen closely, you can pick out:

-ode to joy in ceder tree

-twinkle, twinkle, little star in world falls

-mary had a little lamb in center stage

speaking of which, isn't center stage an awesome song?! too bad it never
seemed to get much attention. did amy used to play it a lot at concerts?
does she still? it's one of those songs whose lyrics will always elude me,
both in meaning, and in that i always mishear them, but i still think the
song rocks!


                         ~abs


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      misheard lyrics

i remember thinking for the longest time, until i sat down and read the
lyrics to all the songs on rop as i was listening to them that emily
was saying  "as if i'd offered up a crystal bottle of brew". i figured
she was toasting the person she was consoling and they were hanging out
drinking and tring to deal with the loss of love.  funny how you hear
what you want to when it's convenient and seems to make sense, but only
to you  :)  !

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      re: pork + light:)

> it also reminded me of a time not so long ago when we did "the ig's
>  visit the muppet show" :-) i had kermit + miss piggy getting in a
>  car headed out to the country, whilst a+ e sang power of two in the
>  back ground. i mean, if kermie + miss piggy aren't pork + light, i
>  don't know what is. :-)

hey, i actually remember some of these..."pushing miss piggy too
far", "touch me frog", "hammer and a tail"... thanks for the
memories, kim! =)

(does anyone remember how long ago the muppet thread was?  it
seems like ages ago...)

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subject:      re: misheard lines

>  now, i don't even really know what parity is, or if it is even a
>  word,

well, according to webster it is a word which means 1.) the
quality or state of being equal or equivalent [is it just me or
does that sound redundant?] 2.) the state or fact of having
borne offspring [(!) emily went in seeking this?! =]

okay, this has been your vocabulary lesson for the day...=)

peace, love, and blank tape sales (wheeeee!),
ponygirl

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subject:      re: recurring images in ig albums

>  has anyone else noticed recurring themes/images, silly
>  or otherwise????

fire!!!!!!!!!!!  off of the top of my head, "strange fire", "blood and
fire", "cats on fire", "walk into the fingers of your fire willingly",
"you like to stand in the line of fire"...i'm sure there are more,
but my brain is fired...um, i mean _fried_! ;)
(i'm experiencing a sense of deja vu--didn't we have a similar
discussion about fire references in songs a while ago???)

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subject:      recurring themes

cats! there's a recurring theme for you, (the cat that has died, cats on
fire, there are more aren't there?) plus, did you know that amy wrote secure
yourself when her cat died? i think the image of burning cats that she's
said happened in her childhood must have really affected her profoundly
throughout her life.

                         ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      nff boot; sagittarius

it seems that i have a public apology to make.

i'm the sag branch for the nff boot.  i was in ny for the roseland
show (& then my godchild's 1st birthday) and didnt get home until
midnight on monday, 8/19, so it was 8/20 before i could start
replying with addresses.  by that time, people thought i was not
responding.  i'm sorry.

for those in need of the boot, please feel free to mail 100 min tapes
(& an sase) to:

melissa gordon
c/o creative endeavors
2408 chapman drive
las vegas, nv 89104

peace (i hope),

melissa
sag branch; nff boot

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speaking of recurring themes, it's good to know laughter is among them for
the girls:  i laughed as i said it...every 5 years or so i look back on my
life, and i have a good laugh...even i have got to laugh at me...i could
almost see you throw your head back and start to laugh...wide eyed and
laughing...


wendell

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subject:      re: dogs in a manger?

at 10:49 pm 8/22/96 edt, tamara wrote:
>okay... since i get the part in tws about "...all the old dogs and the
>magician", my mind is wandering to other not-so-understood phrases like
>"....dogs in a manger...".  sorry if everyone else has already gotten this.
>could someone help me in understanding what dogs in mangers have to do with
>anything?

ummmm... well, all i know about the expression "dog in a manger" is that it
comes from an old parrable... the story of the dog in the manger. this here
dog, in a manger, was a miserable selfish sort who sat himself down beside
some wonderful golden hay + would not allow the other animals, ( cows, horses
and goats etc ) who were starving, near the stuff to eat it. he couldn't eat
it himself... it was useless to him, but danged if he was gonna give it to
anyone else. anyways, then... in light of that, if a person is accused of
being a "dog in a manger" this is what it's in reference to.
it's interesting the way amy used the expression in this song ... "i had
guards like
watchdogs dogs in a manger, i could feel the protection possession and anger..."
ummm... reunion is about amy's grad reunion right? with this in mind, my
interpretation has always been that she is delivering a flip off to those
old school mates who she knew when they were shiny and new, and she was too.
she was of no use to them then, and still is, since they cannot identify
with her or her vision/lifestyle etc. but she's famous now, so they're all
guarding their own little "piece" of knowing her, because that makes them
sort of vicariously succesful. she's famous + they knew her when... etc.
she's the proverbial hay:-)
ahhh... what do i know? i'm old:-)
anyone else have a better idea on this? :-)
peace all... kim
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> don't you just love the way emily manages to sneak in familiar tunes in some
> of the instrumental parts of their songs. i'm talking about how if you
> listen closely, you can pick out:
>
> -ode to joy in ceder tree
>
> -twinkle, twinkle, little star in world falls
>
> -mary had a little lamb in center stage


don't forget "thank you for being a friend" the theme to golden girls in
"let it be me"


love, wendell

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subject:      (nigc) melissa on letterman

just caught melissa etheridge's appearance on the david letterman show and
all i have to say is a very frustrated aargh! (at him, not her.) first of
all, dave introduced her before she performed by saying that she'd just had
a baby and asking if it was a boy or a girl. she said she didn't know yet,
because as the rest of us educated folk know, her gf is only 4 months
pregnant, the baby hasn't been born yet! one would think that if dave would
have enough sense to have some background info on his guests, but no, he
just kept making a fool of himself until cracking dumb jokes about, how
could she not know the sex of her own child, until she finally yelled from
where she was offstage that the kid hasn't been born yet! then she went on
and did an incredible performance of a song from her new cd, american dream,
i think it was called, i didn't however appreciate paul schaeffer joining in
on his tacky keyboard. then, dave had run out of time completely so he
interviewed her for maybe 30 secconds max, and all he wanted to know was the
details of how lesbian pregnancies work, and who the father was, neither of
which melissa would discuss, go her! she seemed in remarkably good spirits
despite, what an moron her host was being, but i could tell she was rather
upset, who wouldn't be? thourougly dissapointing, not that i've come to
expect much from letterman anymore, but never the less, it's always nice to
see melissa perform. anyone else catch the show and want to comment?

                             ~abigail (who really should either get to sleep
or finish up her summer reading assignment. yeah, yeah i know i've only got
3 more days, anyone else wanna join "procrastinators 'r us"?
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: sneaky melodies

at 09:40 pm 8/22/96 -0700, you wrote:
>> don't you just love the way emily manages to sneak in familiar tunes in some
>> of the instrumental parts of their songs. i'm talking about how if you
>> listen closely, you can pick out:
>>
>> -ode to joy in ceder tree
>>
>> -twinkle, twinkle, little star in world falls
>>
>> -mary had a little lamb in center stage
>
>
>don't forget "thank you for being a friend" the theme to golden girls in
>"let it be me"
>
>
>love, wendell
>
>
oh wow! i'm not the only one who noticed that! i'd convinced myself that i
was making it up, but i always find myself singing "thank you for being my
friend" at the start of the song. thanks wendell!

                        ~abigail
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      one last cover

all right, i know that the 'songs we wish ig would cover' thread has long
come and past, but i came up with one that i think would be fantastic. i
tuned in to world cafe tonight and bob dylan's 'it's alright ma, i'm only
bleeding' was on. i kept imagining amy performing this one, and i think it'd
be phenomenal! emily could probably do a good job on the verses too, and
together on the choruses, the harmony would be incredible? don't ya think?

                       ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
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of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: (nigc) melissa on letterman

dave can be such a dick...  i'm so proud of melissa and julie!! forget dave,
they're to be regarded as heroes, and not just for lesbians out there...  i
love that song.  the video is just as great... co-starring and directed by
me's girlfriend julie cypher.

my .02,
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subject:      re: flying biscuit

abigail wrote:
>
> sorry if this is a question that crosses the line in to the girls' personal
> lives (if it is, let me know, nicely please :) i heard that emily owns the
> flying biscuit cafe in atlanta and am wondering if that's true. like i said,
> i hope this isn't an out of line question, but you know, it's a thin line...
>
i don't think it's out of line at all, but that's just mho.  i have a
friend who goes to school at emory (a&e's alma mater) and she told me a
while back that the igs own a restaurant named the flying biscuit; so i
don't know if they both do or just emily.  so there's my 2 cents worth!

cyndi

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>the igs own a restaurant named the flying biscuit; so i
>don't know if they both do or just emily.

i live in atlanta and i have been to the flying buiscut.  it is located
little 5 points, which is where "the little 5 points pub" is (where the girls
where "discovered").
amy ray is an initial investor in the tiny restaurant. it's pretty much a
lesbian hang out, but all kinds of people go there.  i heard that if you have
short hair and tatoos, you get a seat faster!!   :)     i read about it in
"denueve" magazine last year, when i first moved to atlanta.  of course, i
just had to check it out!
emily is an investor in a small shop in virginia highlands (not far from
little 5 points).  i haven't been there yet...
hope this helps settle things...
~~robin

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subject:      re: medicated m____?

in a message dated 96-08-22 22:50:54 edt, you write:

> ya sure mm's song is medicated magdalene?  i've thought of both that and
>  mandolin and can't decide.  how do you know?  do you know the lyrics to
>  that song?

magdalene, i promise. =)  peace, love, and strange birds, sarah (the list's
very own little stange bird)

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subject:      flying biscuit(nigc)

as long as people are talking about the flying biscuit let me put in my
2 cents...it has very creative and tasty food in a small atmosphere...i
highly recommend it to anyone who's going to be down in little five...
tricia

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subject:      re: sneaky melodies

in a message dated 96-08-23 00:47:52 edt, wendel writes:

<< don't forget "thank you for being a friend" the theme to golden girls in
"let it be me" >>

oh    my  god.

i allways knew that as a song by andrew gold (former
member of linda ronstadt's band in the 'prisoner in disguise' days)
....but now it's known for being a 'sitcom" theme....gasp........

.......i feel queasy...............................
b.........iiinn.......k........y

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uh, that's what i thought too.  geez, it really _sounds_ like
"solitude"...

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on thu, 22 aug 1996, jude shabry wrote:

> abigail <abaroo@execpc.com> writes:
> > 1) i was awfully bummed when i stopped to read the lyrics to secure yourself
> > and found out that there was no such line as "solitude the air i breathe"
> > i've learned to love the real line, but still like my interpretation of it to
> > o.
>
> err... um... those aren't the actual words?  *runs over to check the
> cd booklet*  well, whaddaya know.. learn somethin' new every day on
> the net.. :)
>
>     -jude
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subject:      fire! fire! re: recurring images in ig albums
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yes yes yes!!!  i loved the "secret code" thread!  every time i hear
christian songs with the word "fire" i think of troups of lesbians in
combat boots dancing around!  :)  it's so fun!

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on thu, 22 aug 1996 indigopony@aol.com wrote:

> >  has anyone else noticed recurring themes/images, silly
> >  or otherwise????
>
> fire!!!!!!!!!!!  off of the top of my head, "strange fire", "blood and
> fire", "cats on fire", "walk into the fingers of your fire willingly",
> "you like to stand in the line of fire"...i'm sure there are more,
> but my brain is fired...um, i mean _fried_! ;)
> (i'm experiencing a sense of deja vu--didn't we have a similar
> discussion about fire references in songs a while ago???)
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> ya sure mm's song is medicated magdalene?  i've thought of both that and
>  mandolin and can't decide.  how do you know?  do you know the lyrics to
>  that song?

oh, goody!  i'm not the only one who thought it was mandolin at first! =)
it's magdalene, but don't ask me how i know...you might try asking my
friend saramoeba.  i refuse to implicate myself in this scandalous
stringed-instrument thing any longer!  btw, amy broke a mandolin
string during ctf in norfolk...maybe michelle had to medicate it
for her <ponygirl ducks again, this time to avoid guitar picks whizzing
by>.  and remember, please do your part to keep instruments off drugs!
yes, that means no prozac for emily's piano! ;)

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subject:      re: dogs in a manger?

> "you can't teach an old dog new tricks."  :)  what do ya think?
>  am i completely missing the mark??

i don't know whether or not tamara meant that to be funny, but--
"dogs"..."missing the mark"!  well, it made _me_ laugh, amyray!
yeah, i have a sick sense of humor...any fire hydrants around? ;)

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subject:      re: (nigc) melissa on letterman

hi all!

>see melissa perform. anyone else catch the show and want to comment?

the last time i saw letterman he had mle scheduled to promo her last album
and howard stern was on before her.  he took up so much time with his inane
shit that melissa only had time to sit down with dave before he had to sign
off of the show...btw, howard was dressed in gold lame, had shaved legs and
toe and fingernail polish.  it was pretty boring.  i wish howard and dave
would consolidate their shows so i could avoid them easier.

jude :)

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subject:      re: flying biscuit

i live in atlanta and i must say the flying biscuit is one of atlantas
best places to eat. but i always thought emily was the one who owned
part of the flying biscuit cafe? when you walk in the front door hanging
on the wall is a picture of the other owners and emily. i haven't seen
any refences there to the ig except for that. just as note in case anybody
ever drops into atlanta to eat there; it's not actually in little 5. you
have to drive about a mile or 2 down mclendon ave to get it.

eb

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subject:      guitar tablature site
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someone asked about the on-line guitar archive (olga) site.  it's shut down
thanks to legal threats from music publishing companies.  copyright
violations and all that...

however, many sites are still open that mirror the olga database.

try:  http://harmony-central.mit.edu/guitar/tab.html

enjoy!

rob

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subject:      dangerous ground...

hey listers!

well, after leaving the station of sexual fantasies, my train of thought
came upon a mysterious station in the mist (of the shower) which relates to
this list.  (and yes, it may be the only train more dangerous than amtrak :).

an ellen james society tune came to mind which i feel one might relate a bit
to certain new songs and an interview printed in a certain festival program.
please draw your own conclusions (but don't you dare blame them on me!)...

'fodder for the song'

'she puts her hand on six strings she pulls you in and out she wants your
nights of torment she gives you years of doubt love's just a passing fancy
fodder for the song your money down a few regrets and this too is gone this
is gone i didn't mean to wonder i didn't mean at all but now you bring it up
what was that in the hall love as a form of commerce comments point like a
gun an itchy trigger finger and this too is gone this is gone this is gone
when the moment's lost where have you got to run and who will be here when
it's done and now the night wil leave us we face our backs and pray will
these convictions stand up in the light of day messiahs decked in leather is
jesus on your side the line's around the block so tell me what have got to
hide got to hide when the moment's lost who's still on your side and i am
you and i am me and nothing in this world is free this is all you need
obscenity passion and greed and loves comes first and love will pass but
tell me how do you make love last and i'd give you more than you've ever had
what's it called when love turns bad and i am me and i am you and nothing in
this world is true'

whatever,

:dwayne

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"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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> new york--hosted by susan sarandon, gloria steinem, jane fonda, ted turner,
>            more.  performances by ig, jane siberry, sherman alexie, ulali,
>            john trudell.  costs $250, $500 & 1,000.  the higher the price
>              the better the seat.

ok, folks.  let's go to this one.  bring a partner, bring your kids and
friends from school.  it's on me.  i'll fork it out for everyone to have
a $1,000 seat.

as if.  so, looks like this will be one ig performance that i won't be at!

margaret

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 07:56:09 -0500
reply-to:     jim fagan <fagan@austin.ibm.com>
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from:         jim fagan <fagan@austin.ibm.com>
subject:      re: austin boots (and realaudio concert)
in-reply-to:  <960822175220_391697143@emout18.mail.aol.com> from
              "indigopony@aol.com" at aug 22, 96 05:52:21 pm

> i haven't noticed any messages about a boot of the austin show from
> the other night, and i was just wondering if anyone taped it.

i'm sooooo frustrated at this.  i was set to tape, and when i hit
record, my light didn't come on.  so i'm fiddling with the batteries,
and i notice that they are both pointing in opposite directions.
so i flip them.  but i put them the wrong way.  meanwhile i was
also moving all the other swithces on my aiwa to try to get it to
start.  after _dont give the girl a gun_, i realize i put the
batteries in backwards.  so now the light comes on, and i'm thinking
i can handle missing the first three songs.  but in the midst of
messing with the other switches, i moved the pause button to the
on position.  so i missed the first three songs, plus 45 minutes
(when i was to flip the tape).  i did manage to get the rest of
the show on tape, about 30 minutes or so.  and that sounded so
good, too.  i guess when things go bad, they go bad.
i took some solace on getting a good elvis costello tape the next
night.

as for the real audio stuff last night, since i am the one who
originally posted to the list about the show, i guess i owe an
appology to everyone.  i was just reporting what i had heard on
another list.  maybe they'll have it in their archives somewhere.

>
>
> peace, love, and maps,
> ponygirl


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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 09:27:06 edt
reply-to:     deng@vnet.ibm.com
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from:         denise eng <deng@vnet.ibm.com>
subject:      re: least complicated?

late yesterday night i was sitting there listening to the song and
trying to think of what they were saying...and then it hit me like
a ton of bricks and i just had to laugh: something hardest to learn
but least complicated is listening to other people (which was ironic
given what i was doing at the time, and also blindingly obvious - i'm
sure there are those of you out there going "well duuuhh..!")
not just listening as in "oh yeah i see", but "oh i never thought
of it that way, tell me more" - even when what someone has to say
makes something you always thought true turn out to be *wrong*!

i can also see why emily says in 1200c version: you just have to laugh
at yourself or you'd just cry.  too true - how could i have missed
what was right in front of me?!

that probably was not terribly insightful, sorry to waste bandwidth.
just had to get it out...thanks to all who gave me opinions on this
as well, you're great!

d.

p.s.  i always thought that in closer to fine they were singing, "and
      closer i am defined!..." :)

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 08:54:16 -0500
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: dangerous ground...

regarding dwane's 'fodder for the song' post,

am i right that on the new orleans jazz fesst boot, right before amy does
one of her first songs, she says "fodder for the song..." i'm pretty sure it
was before this train, but don't give that girl a gun came next, right...?

          ~abs


>an ellen james society tune came to mind which i feel one might relate a bit
>to certain new songs and an interview printed in a certain festival program.
>please draw your own conclusions (but don't you dare blame them on me!)...
>
>'fodder for the song'
>
>'she puts her hand on six strings she pulls you in and out she wants your
>nights of torment she gives you years of doubt love's just a passing fancy
>fodder for the song your money down a few regrets and this too is gone this
>is gone i didn't mean to wonder i didn't mean at all but now you bring it up
>what was that in the hall love as a form of commerce comments point like a
>gun an itchy trigger finger and this too is gone this is gone this is gone
>when the moment's lost where have you got to run and who will be here when
>it's done and now the night wil leave us we face our backs and pray will
>these convictions stand up in the light of day messiahs decked in leather is
>jesus on your side the line's around the block so tell me what have got to
>hide got to hide when the moment's lost who's still on your side and i am
>you and i am me and nothing in this world is free this is all you need
>obscenity passion and greed and loves comes first and love will pass but
>tell me how do you make love last and i'd give you more than you've ever had
>what's it called when love turns bad and i am me and i am you and nothing in
>this world is true'
>
>whatever,
>
>:dwayne
>
>djarrell@ix.netcom.com
>"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
> but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
> -amy ray
>
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****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:07:26 edt
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subject:      re: misheard lyrics
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              at aug 23, 96 10:12 am

speaking about uncertain lyrics, has anyone found out officially if
the line in "don't give that girl a gun" is:

   "'cause she's already won" -or- "'cause she's already one"?

just wondering...

        now 'xcuse me while i kiss this guy (best jimi voice),

                                chris

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subject:      ig demo tour - my take - not pretty - and long

        its 8:00am.  i got back from the dallas show at 3:45am.  i'm heading
out to a 9:00am meeting and for some reason all the beige concert shirts
(b&j's nff, map, demo, etc.) make me looked washed out.  hmmm.  what to
wear?????
        i love seeing ig live, in person.  the opportunity to hear the new
songs before they get recorded, wow, what a privilege.  and its been
wonderful to see so many of these demo shows this summer.  and the igs look
so happy when they start a show.  enjoying themselves.  i don't usually have
the time (or money) available to do wild ass things like go to five
different ig concerts in a month. <g>  it was truly a blast. i love the new
songs.
        to see emily, an incredibly gifted musician, experiment with a song
written in a new medium for her, the piano, gently playing the winthrup or
leeds song, softly singing the incredibly moving lyrics;  while a group of
complete assholes! do their best to scream over the sound of the redhead at
the piano was just an absolute pleasure.  thank you for being there at the
nff. thank you for listening.
        again delighted, to see emily, not a quitter, attempt to play the
piano the very next night, again starting to sing softly, when another
faithful fan screams loudly and drunkenly to her as security was carting him
out; loud enough she stopped her song and saved him from being tossed; the
security who honored us all by listening to her and then brought him back to
our table so we could listen to them scream at him in harsh, loud tones
while she again bravely worked her way through this song.  thank you for
being in hampton beach. thank you for listening.
        i've only heard about the ny and philly shows.  again, not much to
say for the crowd.  thank you for listening.
        in austin, at a venue, know for listening, i just knew this would be
a great show.  and it was.  of those so far listed, it was a jelled evening.
the girls were in sync, relaxed, and enjoying themselves.  the setting is
outdoors under huge live oak trees canopying the stage, with the "texas"
stars above.  yet the crowd talked incessantly through the piano songs, and
amy's "chiapas bound".  you have the pleasure of watching emily tense up
when this happens. (not) it was beyond rude.  austin crowds know better, its
a music town, they listen. this was like heresy.  after this attempt to
introduce the new songs, i'm beginning to wonder why she bothers taking the
risk of trying to play anything new that isn't exactly like the old stuff.
i'm worried about her feelings being hurt enough that she decides not to try
any kind of new material that might be construed as ballad - we might miss
out on some really incredible music just because people have no 'couth'.
and we all know amy won't put up with a lot of crap; and she's singing
"chiapas bound" over the noise.  and i'm really mad because i haven't gotten
to hear the two piano songs yet and this was the third time they had been
played for me.  thanks for listening.
        that's all right though.  the san antonio show is 620 capacity.  a
rare opportunity to see the ig play in a club setting.  how loud can 620
people be? loud enough that amy had to put her hands over her ears to hear
her monitor during a non singalong that became a singalong.  loud enough
that emily did not say thanks for listening, but "ok all you chatty people
you." loud enough that amy said, "this song should rock but the next one is
going to be a quiet one." they rocked "bury my heart at wounded knee" to
outer space and then amy tried to sing "chiapas bound" over the roar of the
could care less about quiet crowd.  hello. this is not just some yokel bar
band, its the ig testing new songs after a year of not touring. this great
experience was wasted on 500 of the 620 people who damn near screamed over
emily's piano, and amy's solo songs.  emily looked wooden by the time she
finished playing leeds.  she didn't even bother with winthrup.  i'm
surprised they let us have an encore. it was the best spot i got for any of
the shows. third person back from the stage, centered on emily. lucky me,
and friends, getting to see how true professionals reel from the blow of
inattentive crowds.  and don't bother with the flames on they shouldn't play
piano, or they should be more receptive to the crowd and play accordingly.
or why are they bothering to change their proven success formula by doing
anything different.  at a 620 person venue - those ought to be ig fans or at
least people who came to listen.  this is not a concert town and it wasn't
advertised heavy before mostly selling out so the crowd should have been and
supposedly were, ig fans.  thanks for listening.
        but number five was a winner.  by now i should have known the words
to all of the new songs, don't ya think?  i finally got to hear "leeds",
"winthrup", and "chiapas bound" without interference.  wow!  the piano songs
are really awesome.  the lyrics are intricately woven and obviously the
product of a lot of intense thought and emotion. it was a really wonderful
experience. and amy.  "chiapas bound" was just phenomenal. she hit all the
lows, played towards the audience instead of into her amp, it was really
great.  the dallas show, in a bowling alley, was the ultimate ig concert.
they were very happy to be there, amy started to make a comment about the
night before, sa, but didn't - they just moved on.  very cool.  "cut it out"
was perfect - the crowd was just eating them up so they outdid themselves.
emily's "cara mia" was a big winner.  major thanks for listening.  amy even
said that this is what they needed, a crowd to listen to their new stuff and
let them try it out on them, they really appreciated the audience's
attention.  wonder if they'd had any idea how long it would take to get one.
        five shows it took to get a great one.  dallas was an incredible
concert.  it was the show we all want to go to and be a part of.  if anyone
booted this one, it will be perfect.  (that was for you shawn <g>) the
sound, the comradarie, the music was all appreciated.  wonderful. truly.  i
was beginning to wonder if anyone out there was listening.

        karen

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:22:03 -0400
reply-to:     nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
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from:         nancy humphries <nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com>
subject:      i think es is a partner in the flying biscuit

i also read in deneuve that ar was an investor in the flying biscuit
in atl. but, i was told by someone was access to the igs inner
circle, that emily is one of the investors, not amy. i've also seen
es mentioned as one of the owners in a g/l magazine which listed
places to go in atl during the olympics (which were gay owned/operated).

an atl guidebook (insider's guide to atlanta) lists the shop "the
common pond" and es as being one of the owners. it also mentions
the fb, but does not say who owns it.

going back into lurk mode now.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:29:00 -0400
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from:         renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
subject:      re: ig demo tour - my take - not pretty - and long
in-reply-to:  <199608231415.jaa27877@mail1.texas.net>

hey, i was front row at the philly show, and all i remember when emily
played winthrup, i shouted "i love you" before she started, she giggled
and then started to play.  and from my recollection, the crowd was quiet
as could be.  i think everyone was mezmorized by her...

anyone else gonna support me in this?


renee

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:32:16 -0400
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subject:      re: misheard lyrics
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on fri, 23 aug 1996, christopher m. becker wrote:

> speaking about uncertain lyrics, has anyone found out officially if
> the line in "don't give that girl a gun" is:
>
>    "'cause she's already won" -or- "'cause she's already one"?

i was wondering that, too, when i first heard the song.  i am of the bent
that it is a break-up song, so i think it's "won," as in having won a
fight.

margaret

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:40:10 -0400
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: honor the earth events
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              "margaret clayton" at aug 23, 96 08:49:54 am

funny, i met mr. turner @ the paralympic games last week, i even got a photo
of him (this was going to get a beer for christ sakes, go figure) i, too
won't be going to the nyc show, but i did hear from a very good sourcew that
the real tour will be having dates mid to late winter. my friend darin who
is a person in charge at the maine center for the arts, told me this much,
and this is not any bs...by the way, neil young blows my mind, and it's is
scary when great woods security is considered nice after some shows i've
been to. very loud, but the tape is good!
surviving on 3.5 hours of sleep
mike r.

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 09:38:26 -0500
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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      re: "girls with anorexia"

"all the girls with anorexia or on the street tonight,
and the boys in the band think they look all right"

this is open to interpretation, but i think it is a reference to the way guys
expect girls to look, and how they have little regard for what the girl has to
go through to look that way.  in regard to the rest of the song, it is just
establishing a sence of place and atmosphere, ie location.  it leads into the
next line. "well, i don't really know why i drove my car down congress blvd."

btw, she changed it to from "blvd" to "avenue" in texas in honor of a street
here in austin.  i wonder if that's a permenent change.

trant

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from:         kira raichert <kraichert@directs.com>
subject:      nicg at all! rav4

     does anyone out there in ig land own one of these? and if so could you
     give me your input on them? i have a 4x4 pickup truck but my bestest
     bud in the world (my rottweiler sappho) jumped out of the back when i
     was driving the other day (as kira puts on her flame retardent suit
     for letting her dog hang out in the back). anyway...i'm considering a
     different vehicle to accomodate my pooch and i think these trucks are
     coooool lookin'! thanks and sorry for the bandwidth (as kira puts on
     her extra fire retardent panels to protect her from double flamage).

     kira

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from:         kevin minoli <kevsmin@aol.com>
subject:      misheard lines

i'm one of those folks who has been singing ctf wrong for years...

for me, it always was, and many times still is, "unless i seek my soul for
some definitive..."  instead of "the less i seek my source for some
definitive..."  i've always like my way a little bit better, but then again i
have a small bias.

kevin s. minoli

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subject:      "cara mia"

is this the song from the red light boot that was called "pray my way
through or around it?" if so, wow i love the song! especially the line about
harriet the spy <g>
does anyone know what the title cara mia means, is it a name or something
obvious that i just don't get?


                        ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 10:46:06 -0600
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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subject:      re: "cara mia"
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>does anyone know what the title cara mia means, is it a name or something
>obvious that i just don't get?

it's spanish for "my face".

deb

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subject:      sulli / ignorant people in queues

hi,

just been reading my list mail - been away in the trossachs for 3 days and got
100 messages !! and i noticed the mailings about sulli.  on sunday 11th august
after newport day 2 i happened to share a beer or six with sulli at the hotel
viking and she is a really cool person !!  ;) as regards the "guitar tuning" -
people are always quick to pick up on faults, don't you think ??  gie the girl a
chance !!

re: lorinda's post about the queue swicking - i totally agree !!  there is no
excuse for people turning up 5 minutes before the doors open and assuming that
it is their god given right to be at the front !!!  there are also ignorant
people who talk incessantly while the girls are on-stage - at roseland i felt
like turning round and telling everyone who was talking to shut the f**k up
during the new songs.  why the hell are they there ??  to have a few beers and a
chat or to listen to some damn good music ?  ok, so you don't know the new songs
- but at least have the decency to listen to them !!!!

phew !  ok, got that out of my system now !!

toodles :)

gail

p.s.  one of my favourite holiday snaps - sulli and i hugging each other !! :)
;)

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 13:11:32 edt
reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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subject:      re: recurring images in ig albums
x-to:         indigopony@aol.com

on  thu, 22 aug 1996 indigopony wrote:

> (i'm experiencing a sense of deja vu--didn't we have a similar
> discussion about fire references in songs a while ago???)

i don't know if this is the same one you're thinking of, but sometime
around the end of april there was a thread about how to tell if a
musician is a lesbian.  someone (please forgive me, but i have the
printout at home), probably claire, wrote that fire was a secret
clue, among other things... :)

hi, y'all ig-listers!  the chickensoprano is back and ready for her
third (yes, count 'em) year of college.  (her parents are ever so
proud.)  i haven't finished wading through the messages for the last
two days, but i thought i'd reply and say hello all at once.  pretty
smart, huh?  and who said the american education system is
failing? :)

anna

"how come i can pick my ears but not my nose? who
made up that rule anyway? how come you say that's
the way it goes? why don't you decide for yourself
what you can do and what you can say?"  - ani difranco

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 13:01:41 est
reply-to:     "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      nigc: mail bomb?

this happened to us on the minnesota vikings list!
     i was just wonderin' if anything like this ever happened here before?

     >well for the first time in the history of this mailing list, we were
     >the subject of a mail bomb. im not sure how it exactly happened
     >because the user was not a subscribed member. ill do my best to insure
     >that doesnt happen again. sorry for the wasted mail.mark.go vikings!
     >>i sent a questioning email to the person and it turns out the bomb
     >>came from howard stern, yes thats right, howard stern!!!
     >>i got a auto robot response saying that someone had sent stern a tricky
     >>email bomb that subsribed him to thousands of lists and
     >>newsgroups and then sent tons of mail to all those groups
     >>whoever put that one together is a tricky bastard
     >>so we just got about 50 messages from howard stern

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subject:      re: (nigc) melissa on letterman
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hey i saw me on letterman too and, aside from thinking dave was a jerk
(yes!), i'm also thinking too bad dane qualye isn't running for president
this year cause just imagine how much he could have to talk about...
melissa's lesbian lover's pregnant, madonna's pregnant, and wow this has
to blow away his indignation over murphy brown.  poor dane...


donna  :)

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subject:      lyrical mischief

indigopony wrote:
>hey, i actually remember some of these..."pushing miss piggy too
far", "touch me frog", "hammer and a tail"... thanks for the
memories, kim! =)

(does anyone remember how long ago the muppet thread was?  it
seems like ages ago...)
>>>>>>

      would it be too offensive to inquire whether anyone has a favorite ig
song they've rewritten with humorous lyrics?  i've always had fun with
prince of darkness, changing it to "i will not be a prawn, to the shrimp of
darkness any longer".....  and after several ig concerts at the backyard
among the throng of fellow lesbians, bury my heart has been altered to :
"lesbian congregation--in an open air concert area--they're all eating big
chicken legs and drinking beers full o' foam---cause even though we're out
in billy bob country, among the darlings of the republican party--you still
see passionate pda's without reservation~~~"
                                                --beth


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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

at 11:28 pm 8/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>i remember thinking for the longest time, until i sat down and read the
>lyrics to all the songs on rop as i was listening to them that emily
>was saying  "as if i'd offered up a crystal bottle of brew". i figured
>she was toasting the person she was consoling and they were hanging out
>drinking and tring to deal with the loss of love.  funny how you hear
>what you want to when it's convenient and seems to make sense, but only
>to you  :)  !
>
>take care and peace!
>
>-deb
>

when i first heard tangled up in blue i thought the line was: "suddenly when
the bottle fell out, i became a drunk" instead of the bottom falling out and
her being withdrawn! hehehehe :o) well, it fit... :)

tiff
      -----------------------:) h. a. n. d.! (:-------------------------
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    http://home.ptd.net/~slugger  |me.  carry me.  --amy ray
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subject:      a quote from emily

this is a quote from emily during the show last night at the bronco bowl in
dallas.

        "when we drove up to the parking lot this afternoon the lady ask us,
         'are y'all goin' bowlin', or are y'all goin' to tha show?'."


                        ...nowhere else but texas.

trant

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i was at the backyard on august 20th.
um....sitting in about the nineth row on amy's side
there was a woman from the list sitting one seat down from me...
and i asked her about her shirt...
just wanted to say hi.
and that i'm glad to be back on the list

--unpatiently waiting for the new album--
           jamie

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subject:      re: misheard lines

at 11:16 am 8/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>i'm one of those folks who has been singing ctf wrong for years...
>
>for me, it always was, and many times still is, "unless i seek my soul for
>some definitive..."  instead of "the less i seek my source for some
>definitive..."  i've always like my way a little bit better, but then again i
>have a small bias.
>
>kevin s. minoli
>


when i first heard strange fire, i thought amy was singing "the incense of
my soul is burned" not soil... i still like my way better! but what do i know?
o)
luvs
tiff
      -----------------------:) h. a. n. d.! (:-------------------------
     hey y'all, come see....      |maybe you squandered big bucks in your
         my web page!!!!          |lifetime, now i have to pay.-emily saliers
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    http://home.ptd.net/~slugger  |me.  carry me.  --amy ray
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subject:      listening

in a message dated 96-08-23 10:52:02 edt, renee writes:
>hey, i was front row at the philly show, and all i remember when emily
>played winthrup, i shouted "i love you" before she started, she giggled
>and then started to play.  and from my recollection, the crowd was quiet
>as could be.  i think everyone was mezmorized by her...
>anyone else gonna support me in this?

in the back, there was much talking over the new songs, esp. emily's piano
songs.  in fact, when they did the old stuff, the audience went wild -- so
much so that at the beginning of the encore, amy made a comment about doing a
new song and then chuckled and said something about maybe that wouldn't be
wise (but they did one anyway!).  thought the nff audience was much kinder
re: listening and appreciating the new songs.

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      ksca negative vibes....

--- in response to my message, trant wrote:

****if anyone would like a copy of the cd just email me.  i figure i can sale
you
the cd for $0.01, then i can leagally copy it for you after making the copy.
i'll buy the cd back from you for $0.01.  that way, everything is perfectly
leagal.  btw, if anyone from the fbi or irs is listening, i hope this really
pisses you off.

very sincerely,

trant
--- end of quoted material ---

not very nice! we might have listers that work for the fbi or irs, trant. how
do you think they feel when you flame them in that manner?

and if you want to do soemthing blatantly illegal, go right ahead. but i was
the target of huge amounts of animosity and "legality reminders" when i offered
to tape the watershed video for a guy overseas, so i was just trying to be
*helpful* and spare some listers a lot of hassle.

susan

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subject:      re: guitar tablature site
x-to:         rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>

in addition to that, unless this ones gone down, y'all can get ig and
related tab from "adam schneider's guitar archive" or something similar to
that... the name i believe is the correct part for sure...  you aught to be
able to find it in a web search, or just run an advanced query in altavista
for " "indigo girls" and "tab" "


toodles,

alec

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subject:      reccuring themes

okay... i don't know how many people will actually think this is funny, or
even true, but my addition to this thread would have to be the g chord.
the open g chord is in every other song, and is usually the key of the
song, which is to say, in the case of joking, its in g, but closer to fine
starts with a g, even though it's in a...  and so on and so on...

have a nice day, and don't drive angry,

alec

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subject:      re: misheard lines

>when i first heard strange fire, i thought amy was singing "the incense of
>my soul is burned" not soil... i still like my way better! but what do i know?
>o)
>luvs
>tiff
>
whoa, you mean the line isn't "incense of my soul?!" guess i gotta start
reading lyric sheets.


                     ~abigail
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: ksca negative vibes....

for the record,

my post was not directed at anyone on the list who happens to be employed in
a government position, but to any enforcement official who is strictly
subscribed to this list, in order to monitor the activities of sub-cultural
elements. i'm almost certain no such person exist, but if they do, they should
be ashamed.

trant

>
> ****if anyone would like a copy of the cd just email me.  i figure i can sale
> you
> the cd for $0.01, then i can leagally copy it for you after making the copy.
> i'll buy the cd back from you for $0.01.  that way, everything is perfectly
> leagal.  btw, if anyone from the fbi or irs is listening, i hope this really
> pisses you off.
>
> very sincerely,
>
> trant
> --- end of quoted material ---
>
> not very nice! we might have listers that work for the fbi or irs, trant. how
> do you think they feel when you flame them in that manner?
>

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subject:      mr. limes...

i have so many misheard ig lyrics, i'm embarrassed to admit to all of
them. but here are a few of the classics:
1. strange fire: you gamble away our freedom to gain your own apology
2.walk away: well the words are sparks and i feel so profound, but you
know what i feel baby, i feel so chained...
3.ctf: he never did marry or see or be a movie
4.secure yourself: in the wink of an eye...all your raging, have no
fear...fasten all your earthly burdens...kneeling down on broken panes...a
line to glide right through the sun...

<okay gimme a break! i was fifteen when this album came out; so i
butchered amy's beautiful song..please don't tell her! :) >

5.sits: and dirty from the diesel fuel we're drinking, coughing back...
6.tgwtwotwihh: i wonder which saint that lives inside of me will grant her
consolation as she counts upon her knee
7.nashville:i'll be walking proud i'm still what i still own
8.touch me fall:cypress moon born in june, like granted in a stream
9.tangled up in blue: we drove that car as far as we could, and then
headed out west, split up on a sad dark night with the green in his vest..

well, it's no catfish, but good for a laugh or two.  obviously i don't
listen to lyrics very carefully the first twenty or so times i hear a
song.  but i do learn! :)

*************************************************************************
"mother is the name for god in the hearts and the minds of all
children."--eric draven, the crow

******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
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subject:      cara mia...

     >does anyone know what the title cara mia means,
     >is it a name or something obvious that i just don't get?~abigail
     >> if i remember my italian, correctly--i think it
     >> means "my dear"
     >> cara means dear and mia mean my...

     >> this is gonna show my age, does anyone remember gomez addams
     >>   on the addams family always grabbing mortisha(sp?) and
     >>   saying "cara mia!"

     >> salute a tutti di indigo girls list!!!
     ...paolo

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subject:      more "cara mia"

the good doctor has prompted me to do a bit more digging on the meaning of
"cara mia". cara is most definetly spanish for "face" or "front" or
"facade" but it is also italian for "dear". so in this case the meaning may
actually be "my dear" i suppose it depends on the context and whether emily
was a fan of the addam's family fans...gomez used the term quite often with
mortica (hope i spelled that right) :)

deb

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subject:      re: sneaky melodies

>don't forget "thank you for being a friend" the theme to golden girls in
>"let it be me"

i'm not buying this one. the progression occurs too many times in the song.
i think it just so happens that it reminds (some of you :) of the ones in
"thank you for being a friend".

the other references are different in that they are intentional. i just
can't see them sitting in the studio while recording rights and saying
"gee, what cool things can we use in the background of some of these
tracks?...beethoven, yeah, he would be good, we can work ode to joy
in...and let's see...andrew gold...yeah that would work too!"

i think not.

deb

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subject:      re: reccuring themes

>okay... i don't know how many people will actually think this is funny, or
>even true, but my addition to this thread would have to be the g chord.
>the open g chord is in every other song, and is usually the key of the
>song, which is to say, in the case of joking, its in g, but closer to fine
>starts with a g, even though it's in a...  and so on and so on...
>
>have a nice day, and don't drive angry,
>
>alec
>
              ***it's true, alec! amy mentioned one time in an interview
that she just can't seem to stop writing things in g!

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subject:      re: reccuring themes
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i gotta say though, that i can't write for shit, and writing folk songs in
g always seems to come up....  it's also one of the first chords i teach
anybody when they ask me to teach them because it gives such a satisfying
sound...  i don't know, maybe there's some kind of randomn ethereal quality
to the g...  probably not worth putting up on the list... sorry y'all


alec

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subject:      re: dogs in a manger?

hmm...i always kind of assumed that "dogs in a manger" referred to the saying
"dog in a manger" meaning someone who won't give up something even though
they have no use for it.  or is that the right definition?  my brain is
scrambled, what i need to do is curl up somewhere and put ig on to drown out
my thoughts and sleep, but unfortunately i have to stay awake to explain the
brand-new car dents (new dents, not a new car thank god :) to my parents.
argh...it hasn't been a great week, that's an understatement, and ig is one
of the few constants.
katy

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subject:      parity

okay, if parity means seeking equality,  that makes sense.  at least to me.
you know she's seeking balance, equality, whatever be creative. at least
its a word!!! it's close to clarity!

i like parity.  i think i will continue to sing parity whenever i sing ctf.

and,  if the words to prince of darkness aren't this place is of the sun,
this place is of the moon, then what are they?  i thought they were.  i
feel dumb. actually, i don't feel dumb, i'm just creative.  :) love sundara

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subject:      this is so crazy...

okay,  i think i should seek help or something.  last night i dreamed i was
having an affair with amy ray, and (this is so absurd!)  became pregnant
with her child!!!  it's biologically not possible.i've never even pondered
one woman somehow impregnanting another woman.  my subconscious is on
crack!  i mean, i know that the whole reason amy and emily are coming to
bumbershoot, is so they can meet me, and one of them,  (depending if i'm in
an emily person mood, or an amy person mood) will fall madly in love with
me and we will all live happily ever after, but really, i never thought i
would have amy's child.  i just didn't think it was biologically possible.
an affair, wonderful, i would be the happiest girl in the world, but jeez,
what is my subconscious thinking?  does anyone have any ideas what this
might mean?  love sundara

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subject:      hello?

is anyone out there who i owe boots too? i hope i'm not being ignored
by the list or something. anyway, anyone else gonna be at that concert in
mesa on monady? mail me back.....or not.
ben
"some people wear their hearts up on their sleeve. i wear mine underneath
my right pantleg strapped to my boot."
-ani difranco

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from:         "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>
subject:      austin, dallas (long, pointless too!)

well, i was able to go to the austin and dallas shows, so now i can
trick people into listening to my comments . . .

i just liked the austin audience better. yes, there was more bar
traffic noise, but they were more fun. part of that was because
ticketmaster's secret program module surrounded me by 40+ yr-old
fans who were pretty calm and relaxed--that's a tough problem for a
21-year old in college who sings badly but really loudly on the sing
alongs.

the tech stuff was a lot better in dallas, though: the precussion and
the bass guitar were clearer, as was the opeining act when she was
invited out to sing with the girls. the guitar solo on chicano
park/shame on you (whichever) was shorter :(, but much cleaner and
with more energy. i'm going to remember the first six notes or so of
"sweet home alabama" from the austin show for a while <grin>.

the indigo girls did a couple of classy things, too: they came out
and sang one of (opening) chris mckay's songs, and some really,
really happy fan got to sing most of amy's part on "closer to fine"
at the end--she did pretty good, what's more! amy was really, clearly
exhausted there; hope she gets a rest.

it was fun! almost religious. a couple of questions:

why did everybody cheer in "leeds" when emily sang about the church
burnings? just 'cause she said "texas?" (complain, complain . . .)

did everyone else like "shame on you" as much as i did? it's very, very
different. i don't know if i want to hear it on a studio album, but
boy was it fun.

thanks for going to the shows, y'all!

tony

....................
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mendina@utdallas.edu              what's past is to put a stop
dallas, texas usa                 to it before it happens."
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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 21:44:20 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@clark.net>
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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: sulli, rav4, joan o. & mm

gail anthony <101635.715@compuserve.com> wrote:

>just been reading my list mail - been away in the trossachs for 3 days and got
>100 messages !! and i noticed the mailings about sulli.  on sunday 11th august
>after newport day 2 i happened to share a beer or six with sulli at the hotel
>viking and she is a really cool person !!  ;) as regards the "guitar tuning" -
>people are always quick to pick up on faults, don't you think ??

i don't recall any complaints about jimmy.

and i would say that on this list, people are very *slow* to pick up on
faults. one thing i don't like about this list is that people are too timid
to voice constructive criticism, because they know they'll get knee-jerk
defenses from the fan(atic)s that think ig and their friends can do no
wrong. other musical mailing lists i'm on are much more open. both
compliments and criticisms are accepted as equally valid opinions which are
worthy of discussion, and no one takes personal offense. i'm not sure why
that's not the case here, but since i've probably been here longer than 95%
of you (4-1/2 yrs.), i won't feel too bad about ruffling your feathers
every once in a while. :)

                               =-=-=<>=-=-=

kira raichert <kraichert@directs.com> wrote:

>     i'm considering a
>     different vehicle to accomodate my pooch and i think these trucks are
>     coooool lookin'!

well, the first thing you should know is the rav4 is not really a truck...
it's built on a car chassis... don't expect to go 4-wheelin' (or even
curb-hoppin')!
                               =-=-=<>=-=-=

richard sayre iii <rbsayre@aol.com> wrote:

>anyway  as for her not writing the god song the funny thing is that one of us
>is probably the lamest song on her album. i think everything else stands out
>as excellent and she co-wrote many of them....

i agree... almost. i think the 2 singles, "one of us" and "right hand
man," are by far the weakest tracks on relish. the rest of it's pretty
damn good.  i still don't see the comparison to malone, though...

i love michelle malone solo, and i sure wish she'd go into the studio and
record something that sounded as good as her solo live performances... new
experience is the only mm cd i *really* like thusfar.

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 22:28:40 -0400
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from:         katy wischow <motor625@aol.com>
subject:      re: mr. limes...(and a recurring theme!)

okay, here are a few of my worst :)
-"then she's standing there at the back of my chest" for back of my
chair...don't know what kind of rationale i came up with for that one, but...
-also from tuib, "i must admit i felt a weak-in-my-kneesy" for "a little
uneasy"...ack, i was sure it had something to do with weak knees!  but there
was that extra syllable, so...kneesy! :)
-from "ghost" ... "i can't swim for reef" for "swim free"
-from "joking" ..."bumping like a pinball off a pyranese crown"...:)
as for that sejarez thing, i always was trying to make real words out of
it...so jyras said, so jive us said...you know :)  and, hey, abigail, i also
(still!) think it's "the captain has died" in pushing the needle.  that
sounds so...cool!  the captain has died...like that walt whitman poem, you
know?  ;)
there are others, but it's late...this is a funny thread!  wouldn't it be
hilarious if a whole concert crowd was convinced of the same misheard lyric
and started joyously singing along - the wrong words!
and here's my theme : kissing!  "you kissed me like a lover" "spin the bottle
steal the kiss" "kissed me like a soldier headin' for war" "language or the
kiss"  any more?  and hey, how about trains!  this train revised, midnight
train to georgia, "and the sounds of passing trains"...wow, this is fun!
okay, okay, gonna go to bed now :)
love and indigos and lots of pep-o-mint lifesavers
katy

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 21:51:05 -0500
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from:         cyndi johnson <cyndigo@txdirect.net>
organization: fast fingers
subject:      misspoken lines

the first time a friend of mine (no name, you know who you are!) heard
"least complicated" she misunderstood the line about "what made me think
i could start clean-slated" -- she asked me "what does 'being slated'
mean?"  we still tease her about that one...

cyndi

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subject:      list t-shirt orders as of 8/23

here are the shirt orders that i have received as of today (aug 23). the
total number so far is way fewer than what you all had promised, so please,
get your orders in! remember, the deadline is 2 weeks from today.

i'm going to be away from home until labor day (sept 2nd for those who
aren't aware of that holiday) so if orders arrive between now and then i
won't be able to post that i got them until i get back. but i will have
email access while i'm gone, so if you have any questions or if i got your
order wrong, just email me as usual and i'll be able to respond.


lori collins (1) xxl
lisa vartanica (1) l
amy putnam (1) xl
jan stevens (2) xl
joan ferguson (1) xl
lorinda wright (2) l
michele henkel (1) l
elizabeth lytle (1) l
sarah scilley (1) xl (and bonus points for the cool postage stamp :)
paula laine (1) xxl
sara bailey (2) xl
dana warnez (1) xl
anna whipkey (1) xl

that's only 16 so far and we really need 36. please, if you said you wanted
a shirt, get your order in! remember, this will be the last offer for this
shirt and no extras will be ordered so get them now!

deb

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 03:55:07 gmt
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from:         heidi lloyd <lloydbtc@pipeline.com>
subject:      add"l newport boots and mm (nigc)

hey listees,

does anyone have boots of other nff performers like suzanne vega, ani
difranco, michelle shocked, etc?
also, does anyone have any michelle malone boots?  especially from this
demo tour's opening acts.

peace, great tunes, and butter biscuits(i like that one!),
heidi:)

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 00:08:10 -0400
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subject:      re: mr. limes...(and a recurring theme!)

> and here's my theme : kissing!  "you kissed me like a lover" "spin the
bottle
>  steal the kiss" "kissed me like a soldier headin' for war" "language or
the
>  kiss"  any more?

"i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned...", "kissed the wounds
of our fathers..."

btw, i was listening to fare thee well and realized that there are *three*
times in that song when fire is mentioned: "fanned the blazing fire...",
"things which feed a fire", "tongues of fire"...wow!

oh yeah, and another point for mr. limes: i used to think that the line
was "straight from the milk of human kindness...".  oh, well.

peace, love, and lemons,
ponygirl

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 23:05:59 -0500
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subject:      ig-list shirt offer - repost

here it is folks: all the info you need to order your1996 ig-list t-shirt.
if you're new around here, be a conformist and spend a few dollars on a
shirt that amy and emily think is very cool. if you've been around here
awhile, stop putting it off and get your order in to me! remember, this is
the last time these shirts will be offered.

here's all the info you need...

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deadline: i will accept orders until friday, september 6th!!! that means
all money must be in my hands by that day!  the shirt order will be placed
with the printer on monday, september 9th. the shirts will be in your hands
approx. 2 weeks after that. no money = no shirt!

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the shirt and sizes: l and xl -- 100% cotton / certified organic (natural
in color)
                                   xxl -- 100% cotton / hanes
beefy-t(natural in color)

sorry, xxl are not available in the organic cotton (but both are high
quality shirts)

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prices: us orders: $14.50 (includes $3.00 priority mail postage)

            canadian orders: $16.50 (us dollars only - includes $5 postage
and handling)

            other international orders: $24.50 (us dollars only -
includes$10 postage
            and handling) if postage is less, i will refund the money to
you. i just want
            to make sure i have enough to cover it. if you know it will be
more, please
            include it. rob got bit last time on the postage of some of the
international
            orders.

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ordering info: send a note stating size and quantity (please include your email
                         address so i can contact you if there are any
problems), plus a
                         cashiers check, money order (made out to deb
reiser), or cash (at
                         your own risk) in the amount indicated above to:

                         deb reiser
                         3166 north 89th street
                         milwaukee, wi 53222

also include a pre-addressed shipping label with your order. it will used
on your package. please write your name and address pretty! :)

if you are ordering multiple shirts, email me ahead of time and i will work
out the proper postage. in general, two shirts can be mailed per envelope
so there's no need to send double postage.

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bribes: those that were offered will be cheerfully accepted but are not
required. but if you insist and are confused as to what to send, i can
always use new music or golf balls :)

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if you need to see the graphics as they will appear on the shirt, point
your browser to:

http://members.aol.com/ncrobino/igshirt.htm

if you are web impaired and want to know what's on the shirt, email me
privately and i will send you a text description. i can also email jpeg
files if you can view those. just let me know.

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that's about it! feel free to email me if you have any questions concerning
the shirts. once again, the deadline is friday, september 6th so get your
orders in.

thanks!

deb
debbie@mei.com

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from:         tina jessup <ileapfrog@aol.com>
subject:      re: philly inquirer article re:mm

on aug 21 message posted:

hey, i saw joan osborne at the uno show on may 4.  and i've seen bds 3 times,
spoke to michelle a few times, blah blah blah.  to put mm and joan osborne in
the same sentence is insulting to michelle.  (i wonder what sarah thinks...)


i admit that all i know is based on hearing/seeing part of that one
performance by joan osborne, so maybe my observations aren't accurate.  but i
didn't like her attitude.  like everybody's gonna swoon at freaking joan
osborne just b/c a lot of the audience is gay.  yeah right.  that's the
feeling i got from her, like "i'm so precious."

anybody else?
_________________________________
i've never seen michelle malone so i can't comment on the comparison to joan
osborne-but i did see joan osborne at the paramount a few weeks ago and i
thought her show was incredible. i also thought she was extremely hot.

by the way, a few messages ago someone mentioned that joan (among others) are
very appealing to the opposite sex-however, joan doesn't really meet this
society's ideal woman criteria. she's very pleasingly plump (rubenesque) by
this society's standards, and she has a rather large nose. (forgive me.)
however, she does exude a raw sexuality that is extremely attractive. when i
saw her in seattle, she had on a short red sequined dress that most women her
size in this culture wouldn't dare wear. i found her to be "out there" in a
cool kind of way. plus she had a pro-choice organization in the lobby and
asked people to stop by their table. anyway, you gotta cut her some slack,
she's from new york. : )

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 00:27:46 -0400
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from:         tina jessup <ileapfrog@aol.com>
subject:      re: recurring images in ig albums

while we're quoting misheard lyrics, has anyone noticed that beer,
dogs, and math are recurring images in ig lyrics? with emily always summing
up the total of a love that's true and multiplying life by the power of two,
or she could 'stick the right formula in, there's a solution for every
fool', ...and in "you and me of the 10,000" wars...'dividing life in to
factions of pleasures and chores".."try making one and one and one make
one.." <--i'm sure there are more, but i don't have lyrics in front of me at
the moment.....  now  beer... emily goes in for a beer in ctf, she had "a
few too many" that made her think she could argue with god in "hey jesus",
amy "bought you a beer, it's too corny to cry"....and even in jonas and
ezekial there's a part where i think they're saying "fear" just before "a
bullet in the head", but it sounds just like beer. on so, even the ig's
mentioned in some interview that there were dogs all over that album: "the
old dog and the magician", "gaurds like watchdogs, dogs in a manger",
"barking dogs, older brothers, late night bars"...  anyway, it's fun to
track these things. has anyone else noticed recurring themes/images, silly
or otherwise????

end of quote_ _ _

another reference to beer:

"and then you go and bring up reincarnation, over a couple of beers the other
night" -emily in galileo

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 00:27:54 -0400
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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

several years ago the girls played at the pier here in seattle. the next day,
the reviewer in the seattle times described how the indigo girls had done a
rousing song called "cheatin' man."

puh-leeze. need i say more?

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from:         tina jessup <ileapfrog@aol.com>
subject:      re: indigo girls concert lines

re: lorinda's post about the queue swicking - i totally agree !!  there is no
excuse for people turning up 5 minutes before the doors open and assuming
that
it is their god given right to be at the front !!!

____________________
my sentiments exactly regarding the queue. last year at the girls jesus
christ superstar show, a friend and i got in line at 11:00 a.m. for the 8:00
p.m. show. there were only about 4 people in front of us. by about 6 -8 pm,
that number had grown to about 20-30. most of these people were part of one
group and one of them informed me: "you won't be sitting front and center." -
in other words as far as she was concerned she and her friends had "dibs" on
these seats. when the gates opened this group ran and literally layed their
bodies over the front row seats-the worst part was that some of these seats
stayed empty through the entire show-they had grabbed too many seats for
their group but held them as saved anyway. i still got front row, but not
center, and the experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

hope none of you listees out there were part of this group.

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 22:16:23 -0700
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from:         robert and frances egan <egan263@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      please y'all, it's winthrop!

hey y'all,

for some reason, i keep seeing winthrop misspelled as "winthrup"!
well, i actually live here in winthrop (me, 14 years; my husband, 36
years).  the joy of seeing our hometown made the subject of a gorgeous
song by an artist i love is being clouded by the annoyance of seeing
winthrop spelled with a "u".

btw, i think emily's song makes my town sound better that it really is.
i'd hate to see anyone disappointed if they make a trip to check it
out.

fran egan
winthrop, ma
who enjoyed her trip to minnesota to see where the mighty mississippi
starts "at a place where you can walk across with five steps down".

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date:         fri, 23 aug 1996 23:16:49 -0700
reply-to:     "susan m. anderson" <sanderso@direct.ca>
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from:         "susan m. anderson" <sanderso@direct.ca>
subject:      but i don't play guitar...! (sigc?)

        hi, y'all!

        interesting site, olga.  at least now i know the chords to some ig
songs.  however, my instrument of choice is keyboard...
        i imagine i could pick the notes out if i had the time and
inclination to do so; but i'm hoping someone may be able to clue me into a
similar site that includes the full notations...???
        incidently, the author(ess?) referred to songbooks in some of the
tab notations.  are these commonly found only at concerts, or is there (dare
i hope???) a place where these materials may be ordered over the net?

still hoping for an act of god to enable me to go to bumbershot...
susan

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from:         sylvia v parga <sparga@tenet.edu>
subject:      misheard lyrics (the evil what?)

hey y'all, here's my contribution to this little thread (i'm refraining
from reposting my "closer to fire" experience in all it's prehistoric
splendor, i'm still trying to get over that embarrasment ;)

from "10,000 wars", i spent a good couple of years at least singing:
"the evil eagle and the vice of pride".  i couldn't figure out for the
life of me what emily had against eagles.  thought maybe one had flown
off with her pet poodle when she was young or something.....fortunately
for us (and her mythical pet poodle) this was not the case, just an
instance of my strange brain having fun warping em's beautiful lyrics
into something slightly more bizarre.....

la la la,
cylinda

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 08:16:56 -0400
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from:         john cooperider <coop@pcix.com>
subject:      re: misheard lyrics (nigc)

>just wondering...
>
>        now 'xcuse me while i kiss this guy (best jimi voice),
>
>                                chris

this one reminds me of a really funny saturday night live episode about a
k-tel-like record of a guy singing songs with misheard lyrics.  it had the
jimi one, i think and creedence clearwater with "there's a bathroom on the
right" (bad moon on the rise)

john cooperider
connecticut
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http://www2.pcix.com/~coop
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subject:      re: philly inquirer article re:mm
x-to:         ileapfrog@aol.com

in a message dated 96-08-24 00:29:30 edt, tina writes:

<< by the way, a few messages ago someone mentioned that joan (among others)
are
very appealing to the opposite sex-however, joan doesn't really meet this
society's ideal woman criteria. she's very pleasingly plump (rubenesque) by
this society's standards, and she has a rather large nose. (forgive me.) >>

yeah... i thought about that after i posted that ....but she is still
kind of a girly girl compared to some :)
i just don't think of her as edgy.....more soulful and bluesy.

i guess i was trying to make a point about the objectification
of women in the music industry....where being...you know...
"****able" counts for some sick reason.

binky (who saw j.o. at uno and really liked her !!!!)

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in a message dated 96-08-24 00:32:03 edt, you write:

<< my sentiments exactly regarding the queue. last year at the girls jesus
christ superstar show, a friend and i got in line at 11:00 a.m. for the 8:00
p.m. show. there were only about 4 people in front of us. by about 6 -8 pm,
that number had grown to about 20-30. most of these people were part of one
group and one of them informed me: "you won't be sitting front and center."
-
in other words as far as she was concerned she and her friends had "dibs" on
these seats. when the gates opened this group ran and literally layed their
bodies over the front row seats-the worst part was that some of these seats
stayed empty through the entire show-they had grabbed too many seats for
their group but held them as saved anyway. i still got front row, but not
center, and the experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

hope none of you listees out there were part of this group. >>

nope. but i was there and think i remember who you are talking about....
(were they the "hacky sack" people ?)(if so...they are always front and
center at every ig show i have been to since '94.....(in the pnw)
kinda annoying and agressive..but hey, at least they show up early :)

bink (who never knew that "queue swicking' was even a word...where
does it come from ???)

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 08:43:38 -0500
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subject:      re: parity

and,  if the words to prince of darkness aren't this place is of the sun,
this place is of the moon, then what are they?  i thought they were.  i
feel dumb. actually, i don't feel dumb, i'm just creative.  :) love sundara

     the words are:

     "my place is of the sun and this place is of the dark
     and i do not feel the romance i do not catch the spark"

     i can see how you'd mistake "moon" for "dark" though (as kira puts on
     her smart ass hat ) :):):)

     kira
     kraichert@directs.com

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subject:      re: mr. limes...(and a recurring theme!)

ponygirl wrote:
>...i used to think that the line was "straight from the milk of human
>kindness...".  oh, well.

oh gosh, so did i!  i just checked the lyrics and it's "strength"....
and i generally hear these things accurately (thanks to my bose
system).

fran egan

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subject:      clarity on the demo tour

        for those who responded to my mad (insane) post about not being able
to listen to the piano songs or solos at four or five of the shows;
(breathe); i neglected to mention how much! i really enjoyed all of the
concerts at all of the venues. my only whiny complaint, other than the
drunk,  was not being able to hear the solo songs. i just wonder why people
go if they're not going to listen.
        my friend said, "i go to listen to the music, talk, and drink a beer
when i go to a show like that."  i said, "but this isn't a bar band."  she
said, "so, i don't have to listen to every song."  she's dead now, (and she
didn't even go to the concert),  but i guess the white rabbit in san antonio
had a group just like her; haven't gotten to them yet. ;-}
        i am now going back into the den of lurkdom. until the next tour.

        karen

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subject:      re: lyrical mischief

>would it be too offensive to inquire whether anyone has a favorite ig
>song they've rewritten with humorous lyrics?

i hope no one finds that offensive!  while "on the road to nashville" a
few years back, i saw enough roadkill and tractor trailers to inspire
me to create a new version of "chickenman":

    on the road to knoxville,
    i saw a dead bear on the highway,
    he was just a little cub,
    his fur was dirty and matted with dried blood.
    and it's one more kill for the trucker man,
    trucker man, trucker man, pass that van....

the things i think of on a long-distance motorcycle trip!
fran egan

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subject:      strange lyrics

hey guys and gals!

well, after listening closely to 'strange fire' on the cd, i am convinced
that 'soil' is a misprint.  it sounds too much like she says 'soul', and the
line

'the incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood'

makes a whole lot of sense because the souls is generally thought of as
internal, where the blood normally flows.  that's just mho, but i think
others will agree.  whaddya think?

whatever,

:dwayne

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but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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subject:      mm vs. jo, apologies, mr. limes, and snapdragon

hola, compadres! =)
      in the words of jill sobule, "where do i begin?"  let's just start with
michelle. =)  i want to offer a public apology for jo bashing the other
night... it's just that i'm actually rather insulted when michelle is
compared to other artists, especially those who don't really tickle my fancy,
if you will.  jo is okay.  she doesn't deserve my criticism... like i could
do any better, right? :0  anyhow, it annoys me when people try to compare
michelle to other people because she is michelle.  just michelle.  she isn't
trying to be someone else, and i wonder how much she appreciates being
treated as the little local atlanta girl that "sings backup for the indigo
girls" and has to be compared to more recognisable artists in order for
people to have a clue what she's about... little do they realise that the
joan osborne comment was _wayyyy_ off base and nothing even _close_ to true.
the new band de soleil postcards say, "...just when you thought melissa
etheridge had the janis joplin white-blues, power-rock thing to herself,
malone & company steal all her fire... malone's guitar work equals her big
voice..." - new york post.  now, first of all, i never thought me had any of
that stuff to herself... (no offense to her big fans...)  i think me is okay,
but she, in _no_ way, can be compared to michelle.  there simply are no real
similarities besides the fact that they are both female, play guitars... i
don't see anything else.  i don't think michelle wants to be like janis
joplin, i really don't think she would really ever want to be like melissa
etheridge, and i _certainly_ don't think that michelle wants to steal anyone
else's fire.  i think she's more the type to rub sticks together and start
her own, no matter how long it might take. =)  that's part of the reason she
amazes me so... then, not to rant, but her postcard also says, "michelle
malone is one of the most distinctive new artists to emerge in the '90's..."
- guitar shop.  that's okay, bu try '80's, eh?  distinctive, she is.  i like
that part.  so, i apologise for the negative jo comments, and, remember,
michelle malone is nobody but herself. =)
      the usual apology now... i still have unread mail from june, so i
apologise for anyone i might be neglecting... =(  a lot of stuff is going out
soon, btw.  i work so much the the post office is rarely open in my off
hours. =(  probably monday.
      mr. limes... (lol, p-head!! =) )  i used to think that in "tgwtwotwihh"
em was singing "i wonder which saint that lives inside of me..." i guess it
made a little sense, but the real thing made more sense after some kind
listee helped me out...
      last, but not least, does anyone know a band called snapdragon?  any
opinions to share, because i'm really curious about what you all think...
      okay, off i go to try to catch up on 2 months of e-mail... love ya!
(mean it!)  ciao! =)  peace, love, and blue suede, sarah

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subject:      re: strange lyrics

about "the incense of my ???"--
i always assumed it was a misprint, too.  soul seems to fit in a lot
better; soil never made much sense to me.  so, i agree!

amy

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subject:      rites of passage, etc..

        i'm listening to rop right now for the first time in months. a
friend of mine said the other day that she thought it was "the most
lyrically bizarre of all their albums"...   now that a few years have given
me the context of s.o and the new songs to compare it with, i'm beginning to
wonder if it is simply their most "bizarre" of all? i mean bizarre here in a
good sense... when i heard s.o, i thought *it* was the more experimental
album for them....but now i"m starting to think that's not the case. what do
you all think about this?  also, what do you think about certain critics who
frame their criticism from the epic debut (indigo-girls) to (as of now)
swamp o., completely leaving out strange fire?? the fact they (ig) have been
playing together since high school and in clubs since 1985 makes it hard for
me to believe that rop was some sort of sudden and risky departure for them,
yet everyone from rolling stone to spin was exclaiming that the girls had
"finally broke free from their old formula!"---and something about the album
does seem to stand out. perhaps it was just the most heavily produced?
someone, show me the light!
                                               --beth


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seldom with the soul
scarcer once with the might
few - love at all.
                      --emily dickinson
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subject:      amy ray

        i'm new to the list, and have noticed that alot of people comment on
amy smiling, having fun, looking energetic, etc. --> why is this so
suprising?  i've seen ig 4 times and never thought to look for these things.
was she some depressed, stoic musician before?

curious,
martha

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subject:      re: strange lyrics

> well, after listening closely to 'strange fire' on the cd, i am convinced
>  that 'soil' is a misprint.  it sounds too much like she says 'soul',

whoa!  it says "soil" in the lyrics?!  shows how often i read the lyric
books...=}  amyray, i too am quite sure that it is "soul", not "soil".  and
besides, it says "soul" in the sf songbook...(who writes/prints those lyric
sheets?  when i was looking at them a few minutes ago, i found *lots* of
errors, especially in the older albums...hmm...new thread? =) here's one:
in the ig lyric booklet, it says "i'm not your promise one" _twice_ in loc!
and in the same song, "i'm loney tonight"! =p oh, and in the rop
songbook it says "and this world's a frickle measure"...

peace, love, and the milk of human kindness,
ponygirl

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subject:      mr. limes, jr.

this is contagious--i remembered some more misheard lines
such as: "find a refuge from the raft...", "baby it's all such a
treacherous game", "from inside this success, sweetheart, time
is not on my side...", "who delivered you from calvary to
interpret calvary?", and "losing our brains, hard up against
change..." i was walking around singing those lyrics for the
longest time (not telling just how long =) before i finally looked
at the lyric sheets...hey, they made sense to _me_!  how long till
my ears get it right? ;)

peace, love, and bluebirds of happiness,
ponygirl

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from:         lorinda wright <lw01@lehigh.edu>
subject:      folk world
x-to:         sherlyn@fl.net.au

well, sherlyn koo is here visiting me (and only me, she came all the way from
australia _just_ to visit me. the rest of the country and the girls had little
or nothing to do with her travel plans...) and the two of us have decided that
we're going to start our own new world. it's called folk world. we are, of
course, the de facto leaders of this world, but we'll be nice leaders, and you
all  can come and live. it'll be nice there, you'll like it. here are a few of
the rules of folk world:

*we'll all live near one another in a large community of various types of
beautiful houses, and our nearest neighbors will be (among others-feel free to
add your own) amy ray, emily saliers, dar williams, michelle malone, melissa
ferrick, cheryl wheeler, susan werner, patty larkin, sarah mclachlan, and many
many others.

*we all have total access so that any time any musician is playing,
practicing, jamming, etc, we can walk in and sit down and listen in.

*the community will be built around a large grassy amphitheater. concerts will
be held daily for at least 8 hours/day. various artists, various times.
various combinations, all good music only. :)

*admission to each concert will (of course) be free to all. general admission,
(except sherlyn and me, we always get the best seats cuz we're the leaders. :)
_but_ it will be _nice_ general admission. "spot-saving" allowed only for 1 or
2 individuals at a time (rather than having 1 person get there early and save
the front row for 87 of his/her closest friends). no pushing, no drunkenness,
no talking during shows, no line cutting, no moving to the front to stand in
front of the people who were there 5 hours earlier than you, no heckling, no
toe stomping, no tall people shoving their way in front of short people.)

*the weather will be between 70 and 75 degrees (farenheit ;) with low humidity
year round. (grumbling at pennsylvania weather.)

*no prejudice, no hatred, no intolerance, no mean people.

*lots of hand-holding, hugging, etc required on a daily basis.

*meals will be served as large outdoor picnics (no flies or mosquitoes of
course) with all sorts of vegetarian and non-vegetarian foods with everyone
invited all at once. musicians and non-musicians shall freely intermingle.

*sherlyn gets to drive a dark blue bmw.

*waking hours start around 10 and go till about 2 am. music shall accompany
most or all waking hours.

*no work.

*no bills.

*no bad music (already said that, but it deserves saying again.)

*no security guards (none needed, everyone's nice, remember?)

*everything's free

*lots of cats.

*lots of dogs, (but not the kind that chase cats).

*no spiders (that we can see, anyway.)

*the leaders reserve the right to change this list, add new rules, or change
their minds at any time.

welcome to folk world,
lorindigo and sherlyndigo

driving...


lorinda wright            "...and we walk in the world of safe people
lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
lehigh university                                - dar williams
bethlehem, pa

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 16:30:06 edt
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subject:      commond pond

some folks might get their feathers ruffled and think that this is "crossing
the line,"  but the following was published in an ig feature article in the
august 8, 1994 issue of people magazine (of which i have a copy):

"...the more citified saliers lives in atlanta with her longtime partner,
susan owens, owner of the commond pond, a store saliers helped finance that
sells merchandise made from recycled materials."

just thought you all would like to know:)

peace and great feature articles,

joan :)

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subject:      ani tour? (nigc!)

sorry about the nigc, but i was just wondering if anyone has
info. on where/when ani is touring.  specifically, i want to know
if she's coming to virginia anytime soon...
thanks, y'all!
=) ponygirl

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subject:      a plea and another lime...

what ever happened to the sotw thread?  i really miss those
thought-provoking interp's...did we stop on dead man's hill?
and another misheard line: "you lay covered in our best sands"
from three hits.  kinda reminds me of the time on sesame
street when ernie and bert were at the beach and bert became
completely buried in the sand...=)  yes, i watch children's shows
in my spare time!

peace, love, and cookie monster,
ponygirl

p.s. don't forget to eat your citrus fruits--they're high in vitamin c.
=)

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subject:      dallas 8/22 concert!

   hi! i am new to this list. nice to be in the comapny of fellow
fans!
   i just had to write and tell you all what a great show the girls
put on in dallas! they played a lot of new stuff which sounds
awesome! it was raw and unpolished, but that was cool! it added to
the whole experience for me. our seats were so great (over to the
left on amy's side and five rows up...right next to the
speakers)!!!! it was f*uckin' excellent! they were so close!!! i
couldn't believe it! but i am sure many of you have been even
closer. i have seen them 5 times and was always so far back...this
was a dream come true! anyway, they rocked!!!! the new stuff was so
good i can't wait!!
   these women have touched my heart, and in a way have changed my
life. i am sincerely in awe and appreciate them sharing their
"practice sessions" with us all!!  rock on ladies!!!!!

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subject:      misheard lyrics

ok--i have to admit i almost want to stop reading posts on this thread
because im getting so embarrassed.  i feel an overpowering urge to go study
my lric books to avoid future humiliation.  so far my biggest question is, if
it is "the incense of my soil is burned"  and not "soul"  what does that
refer to?  please help!
--kate(who's wondering why her interpretations make soo much sense when she's
just making things up?)

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subject:      re: strange lyrics

at 09:32 am 8/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
>hey guys and gals!
>
>well, after listening closely to 'strange fire' on the cd, i am convinced
>that 'soil' is a misprint.  it sounds too much like she says 'soul', and the
>line
>
>'the incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood'
>
>makes a whole lot of sense because the souls is generally thought of as
>internal, where the blood normally flows.  that's just mho, but i think
>others will agree.  whaddya think?
>
>whatever,
>
>:dwayne
>
>djarrell@ix.netcom.com
>"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
> but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
> -amy ray
>


that is exactly why i liked it with "soul" cause soil makes no sense. im
confused. when i was trying to figure out the lyrics(i hadnt bought the cd
at the time) i thought it was soul, cause blood-soul, theres a connection.
hmm... i'm confused now. :o)

tiff
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subject:      re: folk world

oh what a wonderful place. i'll definately be joining you in folk world! i
don't know if the peasents are allowed to make rules, so i'll just throw one
out and see how our leaders feel about it.

-i propose that once a week we have an open-mike day. this day would serve
two purposes, first it would give our honored performers a day off, though
i'm sure in folk world they never perform when they don't want to, right?
open-mike day would also help the residents of folk world overcome any
stage-fright they might have and give them the confidence needed to get up
on stage and show their true talent. part of this day could also involve a
gigantic sing-along around some sort of campfire at night.

not to be negative but i only see one problem that might threaten our
peaceful utopia--the fans of the outside world. what would we do about the
people who are not members of our happy community but want to come to
concerts? uh oh, sorry i asked, but what are we gonna do about it faithful
leaders...?

                      see you in folk world!


                         ~abigail


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 17:20:11 -0700
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does anyone know what this newsgroup is..i found it purly by
accident while browsing the yahoo sites..its described as a group of
indigo girl detractors who talk about the girls bvland lyrics and how bad
they are..naturally i wanted to get on to "imform them otherwise" but
being as computer inadiquate as i am i don't know how to get onto a
newsgroup..is there a kind sould who can help me out

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 15:20:52 -0700
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subject:      re: flying biscuit

okay all... so we sorta know that the flying biscuit is a
cafe owned in part by one of the igs or both... that it's in
atlanta, has great atmosphere and great food, and that if
you happen to have short hair and a tattoo ( does semi-short
and an endearing birthmark count? ) you'll be seated faster:-).
i just have one dumb question... ( okay, okay... those who know
me well know i'm *loaded* with the things:-)...)
but... geez, i just gotta ask, okay??? okay.
so the question goes something like this:
why is it called the flying biscuit??? ( cute name...really )
i mean... i've heard of flying figs, and flying...uh... well,
you know's :-)... but flying biscuit???:-)
is it an "in-your-face-don't-give-a-flying-biscuit-what-you-think"
sort of name?
has it something to do with butter biscuits?...
and what about naomi!!!!???? ( oops... sorry... danged soap opera
snuck into my free flowing text...) :-)
peace all... kim ( who *will* one day get to atlanta and, if
the cafe is *still* there + they let ( by then )old old old short haired
ladies with harleys tattood across their butts (it's inevitable...
one more bad tequila night.... ) into the place... i *will* eat at that there
flying biscuit cafe )
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     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      re: amy ray

martha,

it's not that amy is stoic - she will dance around and really rock out =
on the guitar. imho, god knows she puts a lot of passion into her =
singing. there are some songs she performs with such a sense of anguish =
it is almost too painful to watch her as she sings. you feel as if you =
are intruding in a way. a lot of times, she just closes her eyes when =
she sings. she has rarely smiled onstage when we have seen her. when she =
does, it seems so genuine and joyful that it makes you happy that she =
seems to be happy. dig it?

susan and jocelyn

martha wrote:

        i'm new to the list, and have noticed that alot of people =
comment on
amy smiling, having fun, looking energetic, etc. --> why is this so
suprising?  i've seen ig 4 times and never thought to look for these =
things.
was she some depressed, stoic musician before?

curious,
martha

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subject:      re: a quote from emily

trant said:

    this is a quote from emily during the show last night at the bronco bowl in
dallas.

        "when we drove up to the parking lot this afternoon the lady ask us,
         'are y'all goin' bowlin', or are y'all goin' to tha show?'."


                        ...nowhere else but texas.

trant


and then amy said, "yeah, and we decided to come play because it was too crowded to go bowling" or something like that! yay for us!

jocelyn


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as far as the name goes...

i always assumed that the idea is that their biscuits are so light and
fluffy that they may just fly away...

and the biscuits _are_ really good.  almost as good as the orange french
toast.

darren, who is salivating just thinking about it...

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subject:      re: recurring images in ig albums

at 12:27 am 8/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
*snip*
  now  beer... emily goes in for a beer in ctf, she had "a
>few too many" that made her think she could argue with god in "hey jesus",
>amy "bought you a beer, it's too corny to cry"....and even in jonas and
>ezekial there's a part where i think they're saying "fear" just before "a
>bullet in the head", but it sounds just like beer. on so, even the ig's
>mentioned in some interview that there were dogs all over that album: "the
>old dog and the magician", "gaurds like watchdogs, dogs in a manger",
>"barking dogs, older brothers, late night bars"...
>another reference to beer:
>
>"and then you go and bring up reincarnation, over a couple of beers the other
>night" -emily in galileo
>


what about when amy explained when she wrote "reunion"--something about she
had come back after a school reunion, drank a 6 back of beer and wrote the
song...

hmm...now we know what the girls were really thinking about when they wrote
their songs...

tiff

ps-tina..sorry, didnt mean to send it to you twice... forgot to switch the
reply thingy... :o)
      -----------------------:) h. a. n. d.! (:-------------------------
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         my web page!!!!          |lifetime, now i have to pay.-emily saliers
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    http://home.ptd.net/~slugger  |me.  carry me.  --amy ray
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subject:      re: folk world

at 06:00 pm 8/24/96 -0500, you wrote:
>oh what a wonderful place. i'll definately be joining you in folk world! i
>don't know if the peasents are allowed to make rules, so i'll just throw one
>out and see how our leaders feel about it.

me too!! i want to come too!

>-i propose that once a week we have an open-mike day. this day would serve
>two purposes, first it would give our honored performers a day off, though
>i'm sure in folk world they never perform when they don't want to, right?
>open-mike day would also help the residents of folk world overcome any
>stage-fright they might have and give them the confidence needed to get up
>on stage and show their true talent. part of this day could also involve a
>gigantic sing-along around some sort of campfire at night.

yes, a very good idea! oh faithful leaders... what do you say?

>not to be negative but i only see one problem that might threaten our
>peaceful utopia--the fans of the outside world. what would we do about the
>people who are not members of our happy community but want to come to
>concerts? uh oh, sorry i asked, but what are we gonna do about it faithful
>leaders...?

hmmm...thats a good question... what do we do?

>                      see you in folk world!
you bet!
>
>                         ~abigail
>
and now for my $.02... i thought of this while reading ab's idea... i think
that we should have a sing-along campfire night once a week, or once every
two weeks.  we could cook out, tell stories, and sing along to anything that
anyone wishes to play. what do you think??

folk-world bound,
tiff

and now, to twist some fresh amy words around:
"it sounds really cool to be without a care in our southern town,
and i heard there's lots of fun down there, if you're folk world bound"

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subject:      re: folk world

>>not to be negative but i only see one problem that might threaten our
>>peaceful utopia--the fans of the outside world. what would we do about the
>>people who are not members of our happy community but want to come to
>>concerts? uh oh, sorry i asked, but what are we gonna do about it faithful
>>leaders...?
>

i realize i'm sort of providing a solution to my own question, but maybe if
fw was located on some remote, uncharted island off the coast of georgia it
would help? there certainly wouldn't be as much outsider traffic to worry about.
whaddaya'll think?

                       ~abigail

"as this folk world calls on me, with dreams of an all folk city, everywhere
i turn, all the beauty just makes me happy!"     <------ would amy approve?

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: strange lyrics

in a message dated 96-08-24 12:34:54 edt, dwayne wrote:

<< well, after listening closely to 'strange fire' on the cd, i am convinced
that 'soil' is a misprint.  it sounds too much like she says 'soul', and the
line

'the incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood'

makes a whole lot of sense because the souls is generally thought of as
internal, where the blood normally flows.  that's just mho, but i think
others will agree.  whaddya think?
  >>
mr. dwayne is correctomundo on this one baby !!!!!!
:)
just checked the official songbook and it is indeed :::

"the incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood" :)
(aahemm......
soil !!...sheesh...:)
binkles

"don't....give that gurl some gum.."
amy ray

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subject:      re: usenet alitmusic indigo girls

in a message dated 96-08-24 19:02:34 edt, you write:

<< does anyone know what this newsgroup is..i found it purly by
accident while browsing the yahoo sites..its described as a group of
indigo girl detractors who talk about the girls bvland lyrics and how bad
they are.. >>

heh, heh...that's funny :)
gosh, i love the net !
;)
binky

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subject:      re: the wood song

hey folks!

ahem... you guys are making me feel like some sort of weird genius or
something!! lol!  i'm getting a complex...  i have had a few thousand people
(*slight* exaggeration) ask me what "...all the old dogs and the magician"
means, since my original post (in which i revealed that *i* recently discovered
the secret meaning behind the phrase **grin**).

i wish i had time to answer each and every one of you wonderful guys and gals
individually, but, unfortunately, i don't... sooooo... here goes my take (btw, i
sent this to the list a few days ago, but still had folks asking, so...):

<oh, and for those of you who were curious about that part in tws, i have eight
words for ya.... "you can't teach an old dog new tricks."  :)  what do you
think?  am i completely missing the mark??>

that's it... or at least my interpretation.  you have to admire emily's genius
in phrasing that one!  don't you love it when you catch some new meaning in a
song that you've listened to for years!

peace and revelations,
tamara (founder of the lyric-interpretation society **smile**)

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subject:      alt.music.indigo-girls

i read this news group..  just another dedicated bunch of fans.  every
newsgroups has detractors, people who have nothing better to do\than slam
the artist/s talked about thre.  but it really does not happen often on
this group.  as to how to get to it, your access depends on your
internet provider.  not all of them carry all alt groups, and may
have one of several commands to access usennet groups.


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pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

so i lied when i suggested this here thread:-)
said i had no misheard ig lyrics... oh no, wait...
i said i had no *good* ones... :-)
i was just thinking back to one of my first posts
to this list... i wrote about how a line from
amy ray's kid fears always reminded me of the movie
fried geen tomatoes... you know the scene where
buddy follows little idgey up into the tree house
+ tells her "the story about the oysters" and how
god "decides to make one of them special" so he puts
a grain of sand in it... bla bla bla...
anyhoo... i quoted amy as singing "painful pearls" :-)
some kind listee set me a-right, and if'n you'll cast
yer eyes southward to my signature... you'll see that
i *finally* got it right:-)
peace... kim ( who is loving the abberations visited on
some listees by their oh-so-off hearing + odd imaginings )
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     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      folk world!

ya know, lorindigo's folk world sounds like heaven!  think about it!  not
trying to be morbid or anything, but i would like to think that's what heaven
will be like...and those folks in the "outside world" on earth (like the ones
who hated folk and listened to metallica, michael bolton, snoop doggy dog,
mariah carey, etc. etc.) would *love* folk/acoustic music too and heaven
would all be one big folk fest!!!!

joan :)

but still, i like the idea of trying to create a little community/world
like folk world during my lifetime.  let's all move to the atlanta area!!!!!

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has anyone bothered to transcribe the lyrics to this nbew song.  i like
it a lot, but can't remember all of the verses.

if you have, please send me a copy...

thanks!
darren

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subject:      re: flying biscuit

i don't think the flying biscuit will be going out of business
anytime soon(on a weeknd the wait is an hour for a table for breakfast
or dinner), so you needn't worry about never getting there. they'll seat
anyone, tattooed or not.:) actually it's located in this little oldtime
storefront place that's stuck in the middle of a residental area. the
neighborhood (candler park/lake calire) that it's in has a summer arts and
music festival right in front of it. lots of great bands played. my aunt
lives down dwon the street from the flyign biscuit and last summer at the
festival she was just wandering around and sitting on the curb in front of
the flying biscuit were the ig. they didn't play, but she said it was
really neat.

the name is definatly from the biscuits. they are awesome. almost
everthing comes with one. after it was open for about a year they opened
a bakery, that's attached to the cafe, where you can buy a flying biscuit
(yes they're actaully called that) or a muffin or cookies.

well i could talk about the flying biscuit for days (it's my favorite
place to go eat and chill), but i won't bore you.

eb

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georgia tech                  me be. my brothers and my sisters will we ever
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subject:      misheard lines; small bandwidth waste

hi y'all, this is karey on vacation!  done with school for a month; all who
are starting up again have my heartfelt sympathy and good wishes.

my misheard line is from hammer and a nail: i thought it was ..destination
my community... which makes a lot of sense with the following line (a street
person my responsibility) but the real one is even nicer.  not funny, but... :)

elaine, could you please email me?  i forgot to copy your address down on
actual paper ( instead of blindly depending on the archives of the
computer.... different computer, duh!)

love and bug repellant,
karey

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subject:      re: flying biscuit

in a message dated 96-08-24 19:04:14 edt, you write:

> why is it called the flying biscuit??? ( cute name...really )
>  i mean... i've heard of flying figs, and flying...uh... well,
>  you know's :-)... but flying biscuit???:-)
>  is it an "in-your-face-don't-give-a-flying-biscuit-what-you-think"
>  sort of name?
>  has it something to do with butter biscuits?...

all i wanted to say that _everything_ can be related to butter biscuits
_somehow_... (especially in my little world...)  ignore my last message.  i
#%&@ed up. =]  peace, love, and flying butter biscuits, sarah

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at 02:57 am 8/25/96 +0000, karey wrote:
>my misheard line is from hammer and a nail: i thought it was ..destination
>my community... which makes a lot of sense with the following line (a street
>person my responsibility)

aggghhhh!!! i've gotta stop lying... um, i thought they were singing this too.
peace all... kim ( who is off to buy a hearing aid 1st thing in the morning )
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subject:      (nigc) snapdragon
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>       last, but not least, does anyone know a band called snapdragon?  any
> opinions to share, because i'm really curious about what you all think...
>       okay, off i go to try to catch up on 2 months of e-mail... love ya!
>  (mean it!)  ciao! =)  peace, love, and blue suede, sarah
>

  snapdragon! funny you should ask, sarah, because their cd -drinking
watermelon sugar- is my latest musical discovery! i don't know what you
know of them, but i was introduced to their stuff by friends from ga, and
i guess they're from augusta. but anyway, my first impression of their
music, and especially tara's voice, was how sweet and (pardon the word)
adorable she sounds. i wish i had the lyrics, but from what i can make
out, the lyrics don't have the depth or passion of say - ig :) - but the
songs stick with me somehow...there is truth to the feelings she sings
about - i relate to her stories...

from orangecrush... (sometimes when the words come out too heavy/ they can
run you over like an 18-wheeler/ if you're not looking if you're not
ready/ they can hit you harder than a freight train... i don't wanna
tell you that i love you/ i don't wanna promise you tomorrow/ i just
wanna tell you that i think of you and it makes me feel alright)

from wish... (well i decided back in mississippi not to wait any more
for the good things/ 'cause the longer i waited the less sure i got that
i needed them anyway)

i'm a singer (of sorts) at heart, so i can't comment intelligently about
guitar-work, etc. i'm more a melody-harmony / lyrics person. i was first
hooked by orangecrush and wish  - they make me smile whenever
i hear them and i can't seem to get the melodies out of my head  - but
now all of the songs are growing on me - and i do really wish i had the
words to all of them - the ones that aren't acoustic are harder to make
out...

so anyway, i really like -drinking watermelon sugar-  i think it's
really as sweet as it sounds... where did you hear of them?? what do
*you* think??? :)


-- cheryl

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 22:29:22 -0700
reply-to:     scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu
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from:         scot ninnemann <scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu>
subject:      anger, amy, cara mia, and other weirdness

ciao, cari miei!

(if i've remembered my italian, that is!)  yikes, been a while y'all, i've
gotta stop working so much and read my email more often...

did i really read that someone asked amy when ig'd be in the studio, and
she said next month?  pinch me! =)

noticed a big recurring ig theme tha a couple years ago, that of amy
writing "anger" into songs left and right....  "here is my love and
anger," "i left my anger in a river running highway 5," "i want to harbor
you from the anger,"  "replace the anger with the tide," "with your best
bloods and your anger,"  "feel the protection, posession and anger."  all
her life she's painted with anger's brush? =)  i used to point at the
stereo speaker every time amy sang "anger," like "ha, caught you again,
amy!"

i really misunderstood her as a result, i think, for quite a while.  see,
this close friend of mine was a huge amy fan and a very very angry person,
and i think i ascribed the same rage onto amy's songs and onto amy
personally.  started thinking that amy was all about being pissed off.  of
course, in the last year, being on this list, reading countless interviews
with amy, i've come to respect her _tremendously_ as a person and not just
as a songwriter, and any vision of amy who likes being pissed off all the
time has been completely put to rest.  dang she has my respect.  go amy.
what was that soc quote, something like "if you hate, tell someone you
hate, and you can turn it into energy and love..."

and can i come and jam at folk world? =)  and as for the outside fan
problem... i think that we should be inclusive, and let everyone in,
because isn't that what this ideal is all about?  but still, we should
have the right to demand that everyone be completely respectful of each
other...  ah, the problems one encounters in creating utopia!

and how's this for a misheard lyric... on the red light cafe boot, i
originally didn't know it was called "cara mia," (hence my groping for a
title for that one making the insert) and that first line where emily
sings "cara mia," i thought she was singing someone's _name_ that the song
was about!  thought it was karen o'neill or something of the like.  i
thought that was a bit...  um...  un-emily to explicitly name and proceed
to publicly humiliate someone in a song. ;)  what a silly boy i am...

and last but not least, being very silly indeed, i've taken far too long
to send out this last batch of plaid albums, my sincere apologies!
they're in the mailbox and will go out on monday...  any new (or old) list
members interested in getting a free copy of this, my tape, drop me an
email!  or buy it from rainy day records to get the big fancy deluxe
looking model, or the new four song ep.  *end of shameless plug*

take care, y'all,

peace, love, and meilleurs souhaits,

scot


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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 01:36:36 edt
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      (nigc)  in search of elizabeth lytle...

um, i *hate* to waste bandwith...but i've been trying to reach elizabeth
lytle, but my e-mail replies over the last two days keep being returned!
if yer out there...i *am* replying to your letters...they're just not
getting to you for some reason!

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from:         "elaine m. rigby" <emrigby@naz.edu>
subject:      boots...

hello indigo landers!!!

i forget which branch of the tree i have (no, i remember, taurus... i
couldn't remember, 'cuz i am not a taurus), but i have only had three
requests for my address.  are there any more of you out there that want
the boot "these songs (revised)/it feels so funny to be pre"???  and, as
of yet, i have recieved no tapes from those that asked for my address....
please get them in the mail asap, i start school soon, and my time is
severly limited as of next week.  thank you

wendell, please e-mail me privately and tell my how you want me to repay
you for your generosity.... i still cannot find any 100 min tapes 'round
here.... btw, why is it called "it feels so funny to be pre???"

peace, love and indigo
elaine

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 23:25:02 -0700
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from:         robert and frances egan <egan263@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: alt.music.indigo-girls

i read this newsgroup, and i like it a lot, plus it can't fill your
email w/72 messages in a day. =)  there's lots of cool ig fans there,
too!  the yahoo description of it being a very critical group is really
off base, because i'm always reading posts by fans professing their
love, admiration, respect, etc. of ig.

but a word of warning: if you feel that any discussion of ig's personal
lives is out of line, then you may be offended.  on the other hand, if
you don't mind such discussions, you'll probably enjoy this group.

see you there?
fran egan

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date:         sat, 24 aug 1996 23:49:01 +0000
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from:         "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
subject:      anyone out there speak spanish?-nigc

if anyone out there can speak spanish, and would be willing to translate
a paragraph, i would be ever so greatfull.

please email me.

thanks in advance,

chris payne owen4@adnc.com
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       "im looking for someone who can take as much as i give...
            ...and to give as much as i need."

                                   ig

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 04:01:44 -0700
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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nff boot branch change: attn uk listees

hey hey,

if you are in the  uk and you want a copy of the newport boot, the branch
has changed.

please write to seffy@epic.co.uk  and tell seffy that you want this boot.
same still applies as far as sending her a blank 100 minute tape and a
sase.

thanks!

carolyn

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subject:      folk world

        ahh.  and what mighty, benevolent leaders lorinda and sherlyn will be.
        i'm in.  and abigail, why are you thinking of negatives?  all the
people who go to folk world will be cool, there won't be any outsiders
because only peaceful loving people will want to visit and stay.
        i'm off into my sunday neverland bright and early today.  folk world
reminded me that next weekend is the kerrville wine and music festival - as
close to a real folk world as you can get. well, newport was close too.
three days and nights of music from the winners of the new folk contests of
the last five years.  should be good. big $45 for the whole weekend,
including camping and admission.
        karen - delurking from lurkdom to move to folk world. <g>

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subject:      mail (nigc)

does anyone know how i can get all my list mail in one big package? now that
i'm back at work, i have so little time to hunt through all the rest of the
households stuff to find my letters. thanks in advance to whoever can answer
this!

hugs,
deb

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subject:      re: add'l newport boots and mm (nigc)

heidi lloyd <lloydbtc@pipeline.com> wrote:

>does anyone have boots of other nff performers like suzanne vega, ani
>difranco, michelle shocked, etc?

i got suzanne and ani (but the mix was so bad for ani that it's virtually
unlistenable -- all bass and drums, no vocals and guitar). the vega boot
is excellent, but for wind noise and a bit of audience chatter.

>also, does anyone have any michelle malone boots?  especially from this
>demo tour's opening acts.

i have a good boot of mm's set at the boathouse in norfolk.

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subject:      re: ani tour? (nigc!)

indigopony@aol.com wrote:

>sorry about the nigc, but i was just wondering if anyone has
>info. on where/when ani is touring.  specifically, i want to know
>if she's coming to virginia anytime soon...

tickets for her 11/17 dc show at lisner auditorium went on sale weeks
ago... check the links at http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/ani.html for more
dates.

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           i think the more i drink, the more he likes me..."
            -- kristen hersh (throwing muses), "cottonmouth"

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 14:26:59 -0400
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subject:      re: recurring images in ig albums

tina jessup <ileapfrog@aol.com> wrote:

>now  beer... emily goes in for a beer in ctf, she had "a
>few too many" that made her think she could argue with god in "hey jesus",
>amy "bought you a beer, it's too corny to cry"

don't forget that amy is "queen of beer" in the "galileo" video!

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              but then i find trees sexually attractive too."
                             - sarah mclachlan

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from:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
subject:      rock for choice

truly a good cd..but the highlight in the liner notes is a
picture of amy  (about 6 years old , it appears) all dressed up in a
cowgirl outfit and emily ,,maybe 12, 0r 13..posing with her guitar...

boy..have they changed..
so i missed the posting on the people article..
does anyone know how to called up that article on the people  mag
page..this computer illiterate nees help..and thanks for helping me
figure out how to get to that alt. music indigo girls newspage...i like
ours better
pooh

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subject:      collecting bootlegs

hi everyone.  here's the thing...i'd like to start collecting some ig
bootlegs but i don't know where to start!  i live in ottawa canada and i
don't think there are any here so i don't have anything to trade with
people.  help!

also, i apologize for what i'm about to ask in advance, but if some kind
soul could e-mail me and tell me how to turn off digest format from
listserv i'd be forever grateful...i've tried everything and nothing works.

danke shen,

lisa

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subject:      honor, 4.5 at tower

i was at tower records in tysons corner, va yesterday, and they had a huge
display of the honor cd at the front of the store. they also still have a
dozen or more copies of 4.5 left. i would bet most tower stores around the
country would have similar inventories.

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subject:      the lone coyote

does anyone have any insights as to the meaning of the chorus of
"welcome me"?  specifically, what is the significance of the lone
coyote?  it makes me feel kind of oogy to think of amy holding an
animal captive, but i have no doubt that i am missing something in the
meaning here.

is it some native american tradition?  that would definitely be
consistent with rop.  i presume it is, but i'm wondering about the
specifics.

     -jude, one of dem crunchy vegan queer types.. :)

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subject:      re: the lone coyote
in-reply-to:  your message of "sun, 25 aug 1996 15:37:26 edt."

replying to my own post...
jude shabry <jude@arisia.org> writes:
> is it some native american tradition?  that would definitely be
> consistent with rop.  i presume it is, but i'm wondering about the
> specifics.

mea culpa.. nis, of course.. :)   dunno what i was thinking when i
typed that.  please don't flame me!

   -jude

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subject:      the las cruces show

hey y'all,

   just a few quick lines about the show last night in las cruces, nm
before i head up to santa fe for the show there tonight.  las cruces was
really special.  the show was on the new mexico state university campus in
the student union building upstairs in the ballroom, which was like seeing
them in a bathroom!   we got there about 11-12 and the only people in front
of us in line were these 3 girls from missouri.  we hung out upstairs right
outside the ballroom while they were setting up the equiptment.  we even
got to stand in the doorway while a & e did their sound checks.  i don't
think this would have happened any where else. it was hilarious.  i'm
sittin' there on this stack of chairs while sully the guitar tech woman is
tuning the guitars.  she asked me for a chair and i walked up to the stage
and handed her one and she asked if there were any nicer chairs, something
like a cushy cafeteria chair with no arms.  all of a sudden there were like
4 women running up and down the hall looking for cushy chairs with no arms.
they finally find one and oneof the university employees said they
couldn't use that chair.  what?  a & e can't use your chair?  do you know
who they are?  do you know who you are?  so, emily sat on this hard chair.
oh well.  then they kicked us out and closed the doors while the whole band
did sound check.
     kris mckay was the opener.  she was good and really funny.  she came
out on stage alot during the ig show and sang with them.  so, the ig did
their new stuff.  the audience was great and the girls commented on this
several times.  they kept saying how quiet we were and how good that was
because these were quiet songs.  so they did all new stuff and amy just
smiled, smiled, smiled.  emily seemed a bit hard or tired or something.
okay, fashion time for those of you who want to know:  amy was wearing a
black t-shirtthat said black cats  austin, tx w/ her jeans that have that
strip of fabric sewn down the side and the embrodery on front w/ combat
boots.  emily wore her famous black zip up shirt under her overalls and
green doc martins.  during sound check amy was wearing 3/4 pants and a
green michelle malone t-shirt and emily blue shorts and a blue striped
shirt.  both were wearing sandals.  during sound check amy told sully she
should have gotten some sleep instead of going hiking because she was a
little hoarse.  during the show she said she went hiking at dripping
springs and found a cave there that she was conttemplating the livibility
of and how you could see the invaders coming over the horizon.  some guy
yelled he's hunt her food for her and she said it'd be really easy since
she's a vegetarian.  emily said one day we'd all show up for sound check
and amy would be off livin' in a cave.  then someone yelled out something
about donuts.  amy said she had actually had a donut today and how she
craves them everyday.  funny, funny.
    i guess this all started because amy came out and said we were gonna
get a reall treat and the guy said "donuts".  well out treat was cecillia
(?) someone who is a memeber of the zapatistas down in chiapas.  she told
us about how fucked up down down there especially since nafta.  they used
to grow corn for their families and now the mexican gov't makes them grow
strawberries for export.  she told us how there are military convoys in a
lot of the villages trying to shut up the zapatistas and how one of their
tools is gang rape.  (more will be posted about this later).  they had a
table outside where they were selling crafts after the show.
    so, gotta go up to santas fe now.  i was psyched to meet a couple of
other list members in las cruces.  i got to meet michael and carrie and i
went down there with donna from the  list.  really nice people.  carrie
gave me a plastic cockroack on wheels, so i ate that. <joke>
i got a really good boot of the show.  please please please do not write
and ask me for a copy of this just yet.  my mailbox is over 300 and i can't
check it now.  i just got on to write y'all about the show and i'm going to
santa fe and then mesa so by the time i get back my box is gonna be
overflowing.  this tape and the other upcoming ones will be made available
to the list via a tape tree, so don't write me just yet and crash my
system, okay?  patience, patience, patience.  i promise y'all will get a
chance to hear this--just wait for the tree.  i'll write y'all later about
the santa fe show.


                        --sunny


p.s.  i was right up front like 6 ft from amy!!! what a great show.

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 12:31:18 -0400
reply-to:     sarah wardrop <swardrop@sps.edu>
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subject:      dar williams - nigc

hi - for all you nh folks, dar is going to be in concord (yes, concord) on
oct. 6 at the capitol center for the arts.  i'm not sure of the number or
the prices but - just thought i'd let you know.  oh, it's an 8:00 show.
later.
-sarah

sarah wardrop

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reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: rock for choice

at 02:04 pm 8/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>truly a good cd..but the highlight in the liner notes is a
>picture of amy  (about 6 years old , it appears) all dressed up in a
>cowgirl outfit and emily ,,maybe 12, 0r 13..posing with her guitar...
>
>boy..have they changed..

these photos of amy in cowgirl garb and emily in her early teens are on the
net! i stumbled across them one day and i'm extremely sorry i don't know
where they are specifically. i'd advise trying a search engine for ferron,
indigo girls, and rock for choice, the site is worth visiting!
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 15:16:58 -0400
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subject:      women in music (forw)

figured a few folks would be interested.. :)

------- forwarded message
             +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                       kate bush... patty larkin... zap mama...
                      what do these women have in common?

this fall, they'll be just a few of the female artists featured on "women in
music with laney goodman".  this weekly, one-hour series features the
best music of female artists -- both established and emerging new talent
from around the world.  "women in music" will be available via the public
radio satellite system, or on cassette.

             +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

greetings, list members:

my name is laney goodman and i am the host and producer of "women in
music". i'm very excited about the show and wanted to share this
excitement with you.

the audition show will be available for downlink to 400 public radio
stations across the u.s. on tuesday, september 3, 1996 at 2100-2159 (9-
9:59 p.m.) east coast time.  the 13-week series will then be coming over
the satellite every tuesday night from 9-9:59 p.m. (ect) beginning
october 1, 1996 through december 17, 1996.

please let your local public radio station know about the show and request
that they pick it up.  college stations that want the show, but don't have
access to the satellite feed can receive a copy of the show on cassette.  if
you have a favorite female artist, know of any new talent in need of airplay,
would like more information on the shorw, or if you just want to say "hi",
you can e-mail me at womenonair@aol.com.  or you can write to me:
laney goodman, p.o. box 15465, boston, ma  02215

looking forward to bringing the best women in music to you all.

laney goodman
womenonair@aol.com

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 04:24:13 -0400
reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: the lone coyote

at 03:37 pm 8/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>does anyone have any insights as to the meaning of the chorus of
>"welcome me"?  specifically, what is the significance of the lone
>coyote?  it makes me feel kind of oogy to think of amy holding an
>animal captive, but i have no doubt that i am missing something in the
>meaning here.
>
>is it some native american tradition?  that would definitely be
>consistent with rop.  i presume it is, but i'm wondering about the
>specifics.
>
>     -jude, one of dem crunchy vegan queer types.. :)
>

have no idea if my opionion is right, but i always thought that when she
said "the first to hold the lone coyote" was that she respects the animal,
maybe trying to protect it from people who are shooting them... kind of a
native american bonding with the wild animals... ???

what does anyone else think?

tiff

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date:         sun, 25 aug 1996 16:56:26 -0400
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from:         brendan white <bwhite@lenin.cc.rochester.edu>
subject:      last night at store

wow- talk about a good night.

was at record archive.  out of pure curiosity, went to the
collections/benefits section.  didnt think i had a chance of finding it.

and there, for 19.90 was honor.  wow- that is such a cool album.  i would
hightly recomend it to anyone.  and i love blood quantum.  really cool
harmony in the middle.

so, i go upstairs to the used cd room.  i look around, under m for the one
sarah i need.  and i see a michelle malone cd.  autographed.  for 8$.  i
was happy.


overall good night, i'd say :)


* brendan white                         bwhite@lenin.cc.rochester.edu        *
* "take my hand- and lead me to salvation.  take my love, for love is        *
* everlasting.  and remember the truth that once was spoken:                 *
* to love another person is to see the face of god."                         *

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from:         cyndi johnson <cyndigo@txdirect.net>
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subject:      igs in studio
x-to:         scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu

scot ninnemann wrote:
>
> did i really read that someone asked amy when ig'd be in the studio, and
> she said next month?  pinch me! =)
>
yes, you did read that!  i asked amy last tuesday night and she told me
they were planning on going into the studio next month (i figure that
means the end of september due to demo tour) and the album should be out
by march or so.  like all of us, i can't wait -- i know it'll be great
after hearing the new tunes they're working up.

cyndi

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subject:      real misheard lyrics

ok, y'all, this one is really bad. maybe it's a sign of my demented mind.
but every time i listened to "joking", i heard horny instead of corny. too
horny to cry! where were my thoughts? hmm ... i wonder.

hugs,
deb

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subject:      re: rock for choice
x-to:         abaroo@execpc.com

abigail wrote:
>
> at 02:04 pm 8/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
> >truly a good cd..but the highlight in the liner notes is a
> >picture of amy  (about 6 years old , it appears) all dressed up in a
> >cowgirl outfit and emily ,,maybe 12, 0r 13..posing with her guitar...
> >
> >boy..have they changed..
>
> these photos of amy in cowgirl garb and emily in her early teens are on the
> net! i stumbled across them one day and i'm extremely sorry i don't know
> where they are specifically. i'd advise trying a search engine for ferron,
> indigo girls, and rock for choice, the site is worth visiting!

i found these pictures!  they are very fun!  check them out when you have
time:)
shelley
http://www.sony.com/music/artistinfo/spiritof73rockforchoice/indigo.htm

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subject:      1994 people magazine article

someone asked for information on the people magazine article.  i don't know
whether it's available online or not...i just happened to be flipping through
the magazine a couple years ago, when i saw that article...and promptly bought
a copy of the mag!  it appeared in the august 8(i belive), 1994 issue of people.
i brace myself as i say this, cause i remember the response i got the last
time i offered to mail copies of an ig article (g), but if anyone wants a
copy, e-mail me with your name and snail mail address.

peace and warm fuzzy thoughts of folk world,

joan :)

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subject:      re: 1994 people magazine article

i'd reccomend checking at your library in the magazine back-issues to find
this article. i was able to track it down this way and it was worth it--a
great article and some really good photos of amy and emily. one thing that
surprised me was that they talked a lot about their personal lives in the
article and revealed some details about realtionshipe they were involved in
at the time, which seemed quite unlike them. i'm embarassed to admit that
before reading the article, i'd been uninformed and was under the impression
that amy and emily were involved with each other romantically. needless to
say, this was when i was a very new fan and i can't believe that i was ever
so stupid as to make that assumption! ok, sorry bout the bandwidth!


                   ~abigail

"when i was 4 years old they tried to test my iq they showed me a picture of
3 oranges and a pear they said which one is different and does not belong
    they taught me that different is wrong..."

                      ~ani difranco

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subject:      nff boot

hey everyone!
i've been out of town, so i missed the nff boot list--anyone know who to
contact, so that i can get a copy??
thanx!
-moe (simone)

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subject:      dallas concert

what a wonderful forum you all have here to discuss amy and emily and their
work.  on thursday august 22nd i was lucky enough to once again experience
the two in concert.  however, i wasn't as pleased with this concert as with
the other two i have attended.  not because of the indigo girls - they were
fabulous, of course.  but the audience just didn't seem to get into the
concert.  kris mckay also opened for this concert and she was showed about
the same amount of respect as amy and emily!  the oddest (and most pathetic)
part of the show was when emily sat down at a piano and began singing a
beautiful song about the world today.  in one verse she sang of black
churches burning to the ground in texas and people in the crowd screamed
with delight just because the name of their state was mentioned.  i shook my
head in disgust (not only because she had been interrupted) but because it
was clear they were not listening to the lyrics at all.  in any case, i
noticed emily cringed a little and shook her head as well.  i was ashamed of
how my fellow dallasites were acting.

that was me venting about the concert...please forgive me.  the concert was
outstanding - just not long enough (of course).  the song "get out the map"
reminded me of some of the music on "strange fire".  i loved it!  emily at
the piano, amy fingerpicking instead of chords and even jerry singing on
"bury my heart at wounded knee". the only thing missing was a finale with
ani difranco and dar williams joining them on stage...wouldn't that have
been something special?!!  something even more special...

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subject:      music for the broken hearted

any suggestions for ig songs (or others) that help to ease the pain and
lonliness of a broken heart?

heart broken in sacramento -

debm

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subject:      special boots

        hi y'all...i'm hoping someone can help me out.  back when i was in
college at umass-amherst, i had the opportunity to work with the girls at
four separate concerts (yes i'm a very, very fortunate person).  the dates
and venues were:  12/8/90  jmg hall, smith college, northampton
       12/6/92  fine arts center, umass-amherst
       12/9/94  mullins center, umass-amherst
       4/23/94  legrak gym, amherst college

        if anyone is willing to dub these shows for me, please e-mail me at
jlucero@monmouth.com.  thanks in advance. peace...jen

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on sun, 25 aug 1996, deb may wrote:

> any suggestions for ig songs (or others) that help to ease the pain and
> lonliness of a broken heart?
>
> heart broken in sacramento -

love will come- helps more then i can begin to explain.


* brendan white                         bwhite@lenin.cc.rochester.edu        *
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* to love another person is to see the face of god."                         *

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subject:      the people article

as i am a faithful subscriber to people(it really does have better
stories than princess di) i have a copy of the article, which
follows...i told someone i'd type it for them so i thought the list
might want to read it...

out of the blue---after singing together since they were kids,
georgia's indigo girls are finally hitting the charts

they may prefer faulkner to krantz and geaorgia kudzu to hollywood and
vine, but indigo girls amy ray and emily saliers still felt right down
home while making their first movie in tucson last april.  of course
boys on the side, an aids drama due next year starring whoopi goldberg,
features the folk-rock duo as-surprise!-a folk-rock duo.  "it was a
blast," says saliers, 31.  ray, 30, found working with goldberg
especially rewarding: "i dropped my guitar in an elevator-this 1947
martin-and it cracked.  whoopi managed to find the same model and year
and gave it to me on the set.  this was so nice.  of course, everyone
immediatlely went over saying 'whoopi, i cracked my saab...'"
despite their good-time acting debut, however, don't expect the girls to
go hollywood any time soon.  fans who cherish their spirit-stirring
vocals, emotion-packed lyrics and glitz free stage personae would think
it a crime.  and besides, ray and saliers, on a world tour that will
keep them away from their georgia homes until 1995, simply haven't the
time.  after years of cult popularity, the pair are much in demand since
their sixth album of folk-rock tunes, swamp ophelia, landed smack in the
middle of the mainstream hit parade.  hitting billboard's pop album
chart at number 9 last may, ophelia stands out in pop's grunge and rap
strewn field like the rare plant that it's named after.  blooming with
what  time calls the "braided harmonies" of ray's forceful alto and
saliers ethereal soprano, the album also offers lyric jolts, especially
in "this train(revised," inspired by a recent visit to washington's
holocaust museum: "piss and blood in a railrod car/100 people, gypsies,
queers and david's star."
        though both women are openly gay, they rarely allude explicitly
to sexual orientation in song.  "we've been out for a long time in our
private lives," says saliers.  "but only recently have we begun talking
about it publicly.  i don't want our being gay to become our (career)
focus.  to tell you the truth, i don't really think of myself as gay-i
think of my self as me." ray, who compare the gay-rights movement to the
civil-rights struggle of the 60's, disagrees.  "i want to stand up and
say, 'this is my choice.  i'm gay and i'm a nice person.'"
        such differences of attitude abound, despite many common bonds.
ray, the more introspective of the two, grew up in decatur, ga., where
her father, dr. larry ray, is a radiologist and her mother, frances, a
housewife.  she met sailers in decatur after the latter moved there from
new haven in 1974 with her father, don, a methodist minister and emory
univ. religon professor, her mother jane, a librarian, and her three
sisters.  amy and emily, who met in elementary school, both wrote
poetry("terrible stuff," says ray) and sang in their high school chorus
before forming a duo-saliers and ray-in 1980.
        in 1983, while both were undergraduates at emory, they began
playing clubs as the indigo girls-"i liked the way (the name) sounded,"
says ray.  two years later they began recording songs with money
borrowed from ray's father.  signed by epic records in 1988, they scored
with their platinum debut album, indigo girls, the following year.
"we've never had the typical aspirations to fame and wealth," says'
saliers.  "so everything that's happened has been a wonderful surprise."
        almost everything, anyway.  "success is nice," says saliers,
"but i've become less tolerant of people shovinga camera in my face."
and so the two closely guard their private lives.  "i live in the middle
of the woods," says ray of the cabin she shares with her girlfriend,
cooper seay, a fellow singer, and their four dogs-"all strays and
mongrels"-outside atlanta.  "i ride my mountain bike (and) i write my
songs in the middle of the night on my screen porch.  but mostly i just
study the forest and the birds and the mushrooms."  the more citified
saliers lives in atlanta with her longtime partner, susan owens, owner
of the common pond, a store saliers helped finance that sells
merchandise made from recycled materials.
        the girls write their songs seperately and rarely hang out when
not on the road or in the ecorsing studio.  "together we don't have the
kind of friendship where we call each other to take in a movie," says
saliers.  "which is probably why our relationship is so strong."
        now that their tour is underway, the mood indigo is definately
upbeat.  and though the two look forward to seeing themselves in boys on
the side next year, they differ on how much tinsel they can take.  while
saliers hopes to act again, ray says she doesn't have the patience.
"i'm just too hyper," she says.  "i can't sit on a set for 12 hours."
luckily for the girls and their fans, there is another outlet.  "when we
play, says saliers, "we are insatiable."~~~~

i apologize if anything is spelled atrociuosly, i'm not a very good
typist...hope you enjoyed pat or pooh...i'm not sure, but this was for
you...tricia

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subject:      hey web gurus !!!!

whew...!!!!

well i've just spent many hours staring at a computer screen
while scanning in ig at new orleans photo's( just in time for
bumbershoot :)..now theyare all ready to go on a web page
( thanks to hot dog dummy !!!!!! :)
what i need to know is this,,,,is it better to have a menu
page, and then one photo per page or try to put several
(how many ?) on one pagie-poo ???????
the sizes range from 17k to 55 k and a couple of two images
spliced together that come in at a whoppin' 110k (not sure if
that is practical)
i want to make it easy to cruise and not anoying.
i am soliciting and groveling for advice :)

binky
p.s. does anyone know where i can get a photo of
the partridge family ????? i swear that i'm not
thinking of putting amy and emily's heads on their bodies.....
(heh, heh)   must     turn       off          com     pu    ter...   . ..l...
         ......

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subject:      re: folk world
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well, i'm all packed and ready to go, but only if folk world is in or near
or similar to seattle (we're so lucky here!) minus the traffic, and if i
get to keep my house, cause i like it.  :)  we all get to have a work
party to prepare mle and julie's baby's nursery!  and your move-in gift is
an slr camera without a flash, fully concert-proof.  we have weekly
community jam sessions (big ones, of course there are jam sessions
happening at all times).  our biggest budget line item is music and craft
equipment/supplies.  i nominate jessi to head the landscaping team (she
has the perfect hat for the job).  and kim has to be in charge of the
niceness committee, because we need someone calm and pleasant to keep
people like me in check.  there is a designated pda area so those who are
philosophically inclined to pda may do so without offending those morally
opposed to it. :)  there are bicycle paths everywhere.  and we're near the
beach.  in folk world, mme binkmeister has to have some major policy
influence.  i think everyone must agree that this is totally obvious.  and
all the spiders can come to my house, i like them.  (we only have nice
spiders in seattle).  someone out there will coordinate community homebrew
efforts. (mmmm...indigo ale...)  ben and jerry will name a flavor after
us!  and all of our animals are the official mascots.

any dissenters out there?
--gwen

>
> *we'll all live near one another in a large community of various types of
> beautiful houses, and our nearest neighbors will be (among others-feel free to
> add your own) amy ray, emily saliers, dar williams, michelle malone, melissa
> ferrick, cheryl wheeler, susan werner, patty larkin, sarah mclachlan, and many
> many others.
>
> *we all have total access so that any time any musician is playing,
> practicing, jamming, etc, we can walk in and sit down and listen in.
>
> *the community will be built around a large grassy amphitheater. concerts will
> be held daily for at least 8 hours/day. various artists, various times.
> various combinations, all good music only. :)
>
> *admission to each concert will (of course) be free to all. general admission,
> (except sherlyn and me, we always get the best seats cuz we're the leaders. :)
> _but_ it will be _nice_ general admission. "spot-saving" allowed only for 1 or
> 2 individuals at a time (rather than having 1 person get there early and save
> the front row for 87 of his/her closest friends). no pushing, no drunkenness,
> no talking during shows, no line cutting, no moving to the front to stand in
> front of the people who were there 5 hours earlier than you, no heckling, no
> toe stomping, no tall people shoving their way in front of short people.)
>
> *the weather will be between 70 and 75 degrees (farenheit ;) with low humidity
> year round. (grumbling at pennsylvania weather.)
>
> *no prejudice, no hatred, no intolerance, no mean people.
>
> *lots of hand-holding, hugging, etc required on a daily basis.
>
> *meals will be served as large outdoor picnics (no flies or mosquitoes of
> course) with all sorts of vegetarian and non-vegetarian foods with everyone
> invited all at once. musicians and non-musicians shall freely intermingle.
>
> *sherlyn gets to drive a dark blue bmw.
>
> *waking hours start around 10 and go till about 2 am. music shall accompany
> most or all waking hours.
>
> *no work.
>
> *no bills.
>
> *no bad music (already said that, but it deserves saying again.)
>
> *no security guards (none needed, everyone's nice, remember?)
>
> *everything's free
>
> *lots of cats.
>
> *lots of dogs, (but not the kind that chase cats).
>
> *no spiders (that we can see, anyway.)
>
> *the leaders reserve the right to change this list, add new rules, or change
> their minds at any time.
>
> welcome to folk world,
> lorindigo and sherlyndigo
>
> driving...
>
>
>  lorinda wright            "...and we walk in the world of safe people
>  lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
>  lehigh university                                - dar williams
>  bethlehem, pa
>
>                   i will not be complacent
>
>  "jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
>  spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick
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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 10:17:18 +0000
reply-to:     andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
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from:         andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
subject:      nigc - but don't touch that dial!

hey y'all

i know how people get annoyed from time to time with the amount of nigc
stuff on here, so... what i'm asking is does anyone know of any lists
similar to this devoted to shawn colvin, and mary chapin carpenter?
if not, would anyone consider setting one up? that way i can concentrate
on my igc stuff here, but still get some shawn and mary material!

cheers


andrew

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 08:23:52 est
reply-to:     "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      other voices???

     hi! a few years ago, when i was still subscribed to rolling stone,
         i read that a.,e.,mary chapin carpenter, and joan baez were going
         to do an album and call it other voices(or something like that).
         now, everytime i would ask about it. after a while, i gave-up on
         this--but after reading about folkworld i thought about it again,
         so, i thought: who better to ask!!!
         --does anyone here know if this ever happened?

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 07:47:52 cdt
reply-to:     jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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from:         jennifer hall
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subject:      re: austin, dallas (long, pointless too!)

>>> why did everybody cheer in "leeds" when emily sang about the church
>>> burnings? just 'cause she said "texas?" (complain, complain . . .)

i take it you're talking about the austin show??  i was wondering why the
crowed cheered myself.  i thought it was quite in poor taste that the crowd
went wild after emily's part about church burnings.  i noticed that after
the crowd quieted down, emily looked toward the crowd and sort of smiled.
i guess it must of been because she said texas, but that wasn't the point
of that line in the song - - the church burnings were.  i just hope emily
doesn't think we're a bunch of racists (cheering for the burnings of the
black churches).

i'd forgotten about that.  thanks for bringing that up.  anyone else have a
comment about that?

peace,
- jen hall
-------------
original text
from "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>, on 8/23/96 8:47 pm:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

well, i was able to go to the austin and dallas shows, so now i can
trick people into listening to my comments . . .

i just liked the austin audience better. yes, there was more bar
traffic noise, but they were more fun. part of that was because
ticketmaster's secret program module surrounded me by 40+ yr-old
fans who were pretty calm and relaxed--that's a tough problem for a
21-year old in college who sings badly but really loudly on the sing
alongs.

the tech stuff was a lot better in dallas, though: the precussion and
the bass guitar were clearer, as was the opeining act when she was
invited out to sing with the girls. the guitar solo on chicano
park/shame on you (whichever) was shorter :(, but much cleaner and
with more energy. i'm going to remember the first six notes or so of
"sweet home alabama" from the austin show for a while <grin>.

the indigo girls did a couple of classy things, too: they came out
and sang one of (opening) chris mckay's songs, and some really,
really happy fan got to sing most of amy's part on "closer to fine"
at the end--she did pretty good, what's more! amy was really, clearly
exhausted there; hope she gets a rest.

it was fun! almost religious. a couple of questions:

why did everybody cheer in "leeds" when emily sang about the church
burnings? just 'cause she said "texas?" (complain, complain . . .)

did everyone else like "shame on you" as much as i did? it's very, very
different. i don't know if i want to hear it on a studio album, but
boy was it fun.

thanks for going to the shows, y'all!

tony

....................
tony at mendina                   "the only thing to prevent
mendina@utdallas.edu              what's past is to put a stop
dallas, texas usa                 to it before it happens."
(214) 907-1057                      --sir boyle roche

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 08:29:49 -0700
reply-to:     "kim: goddess of stuff" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess of stuff" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      least complicated ( ? )

        the least complicated (?)
       ( for young moms everywhere:-) )
i sit ten stories piled at my feet,
it's awful quiet here since babe fell asleep,
there's fear inside me though,
the kids are coming home from school...
and this morning when they all fought,
about who did what and who did not,
i just made up the babe's formula,
and let the pandemonium rule....
i remember the time when i could sleep in, ooo
there were no arguments about who touched who,
and i bought myself things,
just cause i wanted to,
but now all the clothes i wear are dated
and shopping with kids is just so complicated...
so i just sit up in my house and i rest
and pretend dishes and laundry don't exist
kind of a conscientious depression
our diet consists of kraft
.......
and on + on.... :-)
peace all... kim ( who's so excited, because in one more
week the kids are all back in school!!!! weeehaaaa!!!!! )
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 11:36:48 -0400
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from:         lisa savu <weenracer@aol.com>
subject:      alt.music.indigo-girls

i've been reading all of these posts about alt.music.indigo-girls, but i
can't get there...  what's the exact address i have to type in for this
newsgroup?

--lisa

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reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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subject:      long nigc: dar tour

hi folks,

  there is a huge dar following on the list so i thought i'd share.
hit d now if you couldn't care less....

                                -- chris

--------


forwarded message:
> from dar-announce-owner@pobox.com sun aug 25 17:16:06 1996
> from: owner-dar-announce@pobox.com
> date: sat, 24 aug 1996 08:31:48 -0400 (edt)
> message-id: <199608241231.iaa26269@pobox.com>
> subject: dar williams fall 96 tour dates
> sender: owner-dar-announce@pobox.com
> precedence: bulk
> reply-to: bill rathbone <rathbone@pobox.com>
> apparently-to: dar-announce-outgoing@pobox.com
> x-uidl: 840903603.002
> x-info: evaluation version at shark.ack.powernet.co.uk
>
> dar williams  fall 96 tour dates
> ========================
> these listings include showtime and ticket information. always call ahead to
> make sure there are no nasty surprises!
>
> sun., 9/1  king of prussia, pa
> concerts under the stars,  7:00 pm, 215-265-1071
>
> fri. 9/13  marblehead, ma
> me & thee coffeehouse (makeup from cancelled date last winter)
> 8:30 pm, 617-631-8987
>
> thur., 9/19  ft. collins, co
> lincoln ctr. mini-theatre, 7:30 pm,  970-221-7630
> richard shindell opens
>
> fri., 9/20  colorado springs, co
> the clubhouse, 7:00 pm,  719-633-0590
> richard shindell opens
>
> sat., 9/21 denver, co
> bluebird theatre, 8:00 pm,  303-777-1003
>
> sun. 9/22 aspen, co
> wheeler opera house, 7:00 pm,  970-920-2750
> richard shindell opens
>
> tue., 9/24  crested butte, co
> center for the arts,  8:00 pm,  303-349-7487
> richard shindell opens
>
> fri., 9/27  tucson, az
> southwest center for music,  8:00 pm,  520-884-1220
> richard shindell opens
>
> sat., 9/28 flagstaff, az
> coconino ctr. for the arts,  8:00 pm,  602-779-6921
> richard shindell opens
>
> sun. 9/29  albuquerque, nm
> albuquerque little theater,  8:00 pm,  505-884-0999
> richard shindell opens
>
> 10/4  somerville, ma
> somerville theater,  8:00 pm, 617-661-1252
> dee carstensen opens
>
> 10/5 lewiston, me
> lewiston middle school auditorium, 8:00 pm, 207-782-7228
>
> 10/6 concord, nh
> the capitol theater, 8:00 pm, 603-225-1111
>
> 10/11 ogunquit, me
> jonathan's,  8:00 pm,  207-646-4777
>
> 10/17  hollywood, ca
> john anson ford theatre,  8:00 pm
> tickets (via ticketmaster) 213-480-3232,
> 714-740-2000, 805-583-8700 or 619-220-tixs.
> for further info: 213-243-9448.
>
> sat. 10/19  alcatraz, ca
> bread & roses benefit with indigo girls and joan baez, 415-381-0320
>
> mon. 10/21  berkeley, ca
> freight & salvage,  8:00 pm,  510-548-1761
>
> wed. 10/23  rochester, mi
> oakland univ., varner hall,  8:00 pm,  810-370-4295
>
> thu. 10/24  cincinnati, oh
> carnegie theatre,  8:00 pm,  513-779-9462
>
> fri. 10/25  bloomington, in
> second story,  8:00 pm,  812-336-6599
>
> sat. 10/26  louisville, ky
> bellarmain coll., frazier hall,  8:00 pm,  502-452-8150
> peter mulvey opens
>
> sun. 10/27  chicago, il
> old town school, 7:00 pm, 312-525-7793
> fred j. eaglesmith opens
>
> ==
> remember, you are always welcome to join the dar-list-digest, the ongoing
> on-line discussion group about dar's music.
>
> to subscribe to dar-list-digest, send this command to
> majordomo@world.std.com:
> subscribe dar-list-digest
>
> dar-list archives are stored at http://www.panix.com/~tneff/dar/
> ==
>
> the mortal earth fund
>
> we ask that, should you choose to make a tape of a dar show for a friend,
> trade tapes or whatever, you send a check for at least some token amount to
> mortal earth fund (and a copy of the tape for our archives, if possible) c/o
> young/hunter mgt., po box 303,  chesterfield, ma 01012. the idea of the fund
> is that we'll donate proceeds to various environmental groups (we're big on
> the nature conservancy these days).  dar will not take any money from this
> account.
>
> no one will hassle you for making and trading tapes among friends, but if we
> ever have to deal with somebody putting out a bootleg cd, we will chase them
> to the ends of the earth (mortal or not) and chew their knees off.
>
> -- best, charlie "the rottweiler" hunter
> ==
>
> the mortal earth fund also offers the following items for sale:
>
> the tofu tollbooth - dar's guide to natural food stores across the usa.
>  $8.95
>
> mortal city/website buttons. the beautiful full-color button 2" square, with
> cover art from "mortal city" and the website address.  -- 3 for $10.
>
> mortal city/the honesty room posters. 18"x24", full color. one of each --
> $10.
>
> as cool as i am buttons. -- 5 for $10.
>
> mortal city postcard/stickers (write on 'em and they're postcards, peel 'em
> and they're stickers!)/ the honesty room postcards (the full-color sideways
> photo of dar) -- 6 of each (12 total) for $10.
>
> and... a cd by another one of our clients:
> things is changin' - fred j. eaglesmith.  this spring we started working with
> fred eaglesmith, an absolutely wonderful songwriter from rural southern
> ontario. his style is very different from dar's (he's like robert earl keen
> or guy clark on this cd), but they are both admirers of the other's work
> (fred particularly likes "february," and dar likes fred's "lucille," a song
> as yet unrecorded).  the cowboy junkies just recorded fred's "carmelita" and
> fred will be opening for dar in chicago on october 27.  fred recorded this
> album in his neighbor's studio for $3,000 (canadian) in 1993, and we're
> offering them here at a very low introductory price. it's folkier than his
> new stuff, but very good. half goes to fred, half to the me fund.  take a
> chance - fred is really worth it!  -- cd  $10
> --
> always include at least $1 for postage.  thanks! make checks out to the
> mortal earth fund, and send them c/o young/hunter, po box 303, chesterfield,
> ma 01012.
> ---
>
> ==========
>
> dar williams discussion list: dar-list@world.std.com
> dar's web page: http://www.panix.com/~tne
>
>

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reply-to:     jennifer hall
              <jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com>
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subject:      touch me fall

can we discuss this song?  the "song-a-day" thread died by the time we got
to swamp ophelia.

i can't see amy as a person who would sing "i'm so beautiful".  i don't get
this song.

what's everyone's views?

peace,
- jen hall

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 13:35:25 est
reply-to:     "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      nigc: melissa etheridge/shawn colvin & other folks!

     sorry to wasted space with this: i don't get to do that much
      web-surfing here at work--so, i don't know how to get a message to
      melissa etheridge's mailing-list, i just wanna try to get a boot
      of the show i was at years ago---during her brave & crazy tour!!
      so, if anyone here knows the @address, i'd appreciate it!

     i fell in love with shawn colvin when i saw her open for
           jackson browne recently--how do i get my hands on some of
           her unreleashed stuff---there's 2 others i'm interested in
           hearing for the first time---michelle m. & ani d.????


     ...paul

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 12:09:34 est
reply-to:     "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
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from:         "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
subject:      re: lone coyote

i could swear that i heard the following as the explination for the reference
to the "lone coyote" in welcome me, but i can't remember where i heard it...

the song welcome me is about l.a.  (the city of angels) and the l.a. zoo has
a lone coyote in one of its refuge areas...  amy is refering to this lone
coyote in her song.

i don't know why she is the first to hold it and the last to set it free though.

cynthia
"its like going to the zoo and realizing that all the animals are in cages" a.r.

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 12:10:16 edt
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      in defense of dave (limited igc)

jude wrote
....  i wish howard and dave
would consolidate their shows so i could avoid them easier.

jude
--- end of quoted material ---

in defense of dave, who went to college in my hometown and is a good friend of
my family's...i know for a fact he is a big ig fan and has them on his show
whenever he can. it's okay to not like him, but please don't put him in same
category as howard "i'm a racist, sexist, homophobic horse's ass" stern in the
same breath. i'm pretty sure he is not an ig fan! :d

susan

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 12:13:30 -0400
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: long nigc: dar tour
x-to:         cmbecker@space.mit.edu
in-reply-to:  <199608261533.laa05259@netspace.org> from "christopher m. becker"
              at aug 26, 96 11:33:25 am

very cool for mr. becker to post those dates, as i know that on 10/5 (damn i
was going to kristen hall) she is playingf where i went to junior high. dar
williams and lewiston. go figure. it's like pat buchanan speaking @ uc
berkeley. i can get tickets for anyone who needs them, i doubt it will sell
out any time soon. the venue is really nice, it was renovated in the 80's
and has some good sound. i used to loveww being in high school only (i swear
this was the only good thing ) they used to give high school students free
tickets to ant la arts sponsored show. saw wynton marsalis, bobby mcferrin,
paul winter consort twice, flora de cana, and turtle island string quartet
all for free!!!!!!!!


wierd, for a brief moment i actually was sorta missing my high school days.
very wierd indeed

mike r.
(who finally moved, and may start taping some stuff later this week -- he
still needs to unpack)

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subject:      re: misheard lyrics

ooh, i remembered another one : in hammer and a nail i always heard "chin in
a hand and a thoughtful pose" as either "...and a buffalo" or "and a buffer
cord"  i had no idea what a buffer cord was, but it sounded better than
buffalo...besides, what would em be doing writing songs about buffalo?  :)
katy
by the way, folk world sounds great, i can't wait to come!  :)

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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: touch me fall
x-to:         jennifer=hall%ts=deskcall%cs=hou@bangate.compaq.com
in-reply-to:  <vines.acz7+a0q6ma@bangate.compaq.com>; from "jennifer hall" at
              aug 26, 96 10:22 am

>
> can we discuss this song?  the "song-a-day" thread died by the time we got
> to swamp ophelia.
>
> i can't see amy as a person who would sing "i'm so beautiful".  i don't get
> this song.
well, we did get most of the way through swamp ophelia, and we did
discuss tmf. does anyone want me to repost my famed feline interpretation?
at the same time, can we reboot the song-of-the-week thread? how's about
we start with the debut album and work our way onwards? if no one protests, i
will take the matter into my own hands entirely.
kirsten


--
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subject:      re: rites of passage, etc..
x-to:         cerealcat@mail.utexas.edu

i listened rop before i really listened to the other cds,
actually, and i thought that so was the wierd-breaking-from-the-mold
one.  actually, now that i have all of the cds, i think of them as
each having their own personality and style.  they are individual and
yet the same because it is a&e, and they have a distinctive sound and
style.  maybe the cds have different personalities because over the
years a&e have matured musically and emotionally, and this is
reflected in the songs they produce.  for instance, nashville.  amy
wrote this one sometime in the mid-eighties, but it was put on rop.
even before i knew this, i thought that song had a different aura
about it than the others on the cd.  well, anyway, i think i've made
my point and then beaten it to a pulp.  later, y'all!

anna

"how come i can pick my ears but not my nose? who
made up that rule anyway? how come you say that's
the way it goes? why don't you decide for yourself
what you can do and what you can say?"  - ani difranco

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 12:26:14 edt
reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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subject:      re: amy ray
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on sat, 24 aug 1996 you wrote:

>         i'm new to the list, and have noticed that alot of people comment on
> amy smiling, having fun, looking energetic, etc. --> why is this so
> suprising?  i've seen ig 4 times and never thought to look for these things.
> was she some depressed, stoic musician before?
>
> curious,
> martha

i've yet to see the girls in concert, and i'll admit, i've thought of
amy as the darker personality.  that is, until i learned otherwise
from the list.  all of the liner pictures of her except for maybe the
back cover of nis have her so serious looking.  in addition, i can
count the number of upbeat, positive sounding (both musically and
lyrically) songs she has done without needing to use my toes.  that's
why i thought she was so depressing and angry.  i stand corrected,
though.

anna

"how come i can pick my ears but not my nose? who
made up that rule anyway? how come you say that's
the way it goes? why don't you decide for yourself
what you can do and what you can say?"  - ani difranco

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 09:55:21 -0700
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subject:      the mr. limes compilation....(long )

okay all... since the additions to this hearing aid manufacturer's dream of
a thread seem to be dwindling, i guess a summation is in order...
( and i apologize with much bowing + scraping + kissing of ( washed only, of
course )
toes, if'n i've fergotten any one of y'all's amusing little contribution... )
see if you can guess which song these uh... mr. limes... belong to :-)
remember... you will be graded on a curve!!!
( and... the following mass of lyrics *must* be sung inside your head to the
tune of "yellow submarine" or you just won't have nearly as much fun... )
( hmmm... perhaps i *should* have opened a window before painting this
morning... )

closer i am to god
unless i seek my soul for some definitive
he never did marry or see or be a movie
i went in seeking parity
what would you give for your catfish?
painful pearls, hey little girl...
i'm a dying man down on the floor
bumping like a pinball off a pyranese crown
too horny to cry
now the pork + light is empty
solitude the air i breath
in the wink of an eye, all your ragings have no fear... fasten all your
earthly burdens... kneeling down on broken panes... a line to glide through
the sun
bury my heart at wounded knee/cover me in fertilizer
operation lines of mediocrity
so jyras said
so jive us said
king of night fishing
this place is of the sun, this place is of the moon
the captain has died
wet my thigh with your love
as if i offered up a crystal bottle of brew
suddenly when the bottle fell out i became drunk
in a green velvet vest
then she's standing there in the back of my chest
i must admit i felt weak in my kneesy
incense of my soil
you gamble away our freedom to gain your own apology
i can't swim for reef
what makes me think i could start being slated?
cheatin man, cheatin' man, cheatin' man hold my hand
well the words are sparks and i feel so profound but you know what i feel
baby, i feel so chained
and dirty from the deisel fuel we're drinking coughing back
i wonder which saint that lives inside me will grant her consolation as she
counts upon her knee
i'll be walking proud, i'm still what i own
cypress moon, born in june. like granted in a stream
find a refuge from this raft
baby it's all such a treacherous game
from inside this success, sweetheart, time is not on my side
who delivered you from calvary to interprit calvary
losing our brains hard up against change
you lay covered in our best sands
karen o'neil
destination, my community...

okay all... pencils down + pass your papers forward!
you are dismissed...
( and peace... from kim... the weird one.... )


<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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subject:      re: lone coyote
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on mon, 26 aug 1996, cynthia a. crecca wrote:

> i could swear that i heard the following as the explination for the reference
> to the "lone coyote" in welcome me, but i can't remember where i heard it...
>
> the song welcome me is about l.a.  (the city of angels) and the l.a. zoo has
> a lone coyote in one of its refuge areas...  amy is refering to this lone
> coyote in her song.
>
> i don't know why she is the first to hold it and the last to set it free though.

if that is true then perhaps she would be the first to hold it because its
a  majestic proud animal(liek when u say something like if the girls come
to my city im gonna be the first in line) and the last to set it free
because knowing its been in the zoo it couldnt fend for itself in the wild
hugs anthony van pyre

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subject:      re: in defense of dave (limited igc)

<<it's okay to not like him, but please don't put him in same
category as howard "i'm a racist, sexist, homophobic horse's ass" stern =
in the
same breath. i'm pretty sure he is not an ig fan! :d>>

howard may or may not be an ig fan but for what it's worth, he is a =
melissa etheridge fan.  howard and robin have both commented on how they =
"dig" her music.

kris=20

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subject:      misheard lines

kim!!!  you left me out!  "i went in seeking parity"

also,  i realized when i posted last friday about prince of darkness
this place is of the sun, this place is of the moon,
and i couldn't figure out what was wrong with these lines.  then i was
walking home, and it hit me, dark!  silly me.  for some reason, moon just
looked right.  oh well.  just thought i'd point out my error.

still seeking parity,
sundara

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subject:      hey kind friend

i was listening to the newport boot this weekend, and i realized some of
amy's lyrics in hey kind friend say:
something something something, it's late in spokane, coming out of the
cascade range, something something  (although i may be wrong, but i know i
heard the reference to spokane and the cascade range)

that's us!  all us wonderful washingtonians!  yay!

and just so you know, spokane is pronounced, spo-can.  :)

love sundara(loving those obscure washington towns! even though
spokane isn't too obscure.)

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subject:      i'm baaa-aaack!

here i am, mandy, back at school for another fun-filled year!  (groan...)

1. i went to newport and need (will die of don't have) the girls' boot

2. anyone going to see michelle malone and kristen hall @ eddie's attic
on the 18th of sept?  i really want to, but i am in north carolina and
they are in georgia.  any atlantian (or decaturian) going and know any
good, cheap places to stay?

3. have a good year, all you suckers back at school.

latah, mandy

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subject:      honor ranting

if you haven't gotten the honor cd, then do not pass go, do not
collect $200, just get it!  it is probably the best compilation of
music i've ever heard...and it's for a good cause!  i got the cd to
hear "blood quantum", and then found out that i _love_ the native
musicians on there--especially ulali, indigenous, and poetic justice.
one of the best parts was reading amy's message inside the cover--
i'm going to reprint it without permission because it is so powerful...

"this cd tells of honor - "honor for the earth" - the earth and what
she supports - her human, spiritual, and natural communities.  this
cd is also a beckoning... countries founded on the principles of
"manifest destiny" are suffering from environmental nightmares,
religious intolerance, homophobia, racism, and sexism.  there is a
revolution, change coming from the very depths of human society.
the disenfranchised are empowering themselves.  while
colonization, environmental destruction, and genocide run rampant
throughout the world, the indigenous communities that suffer the
devastation of environmental racism still remain the caretakers of
the earth.  all of us, indian and non-indian alike, must work within
our own cultures while recognizing the relevance of traditional ways
that we may have discarded.  if the land is being violated and poisoned
we must stand up.  we must refuse to support anyone who "profits"
from the ruination of the earth and her peoples.  honor1 brings
together and supports grassroots movements within communities of
artists, environmentalists, and indigenous peoples.  it is the result of
over a hundred letters going out to artists of all kinds.  these are the
responses - there was no cajoling, no direction given - these
performances come from a place of determined support for this brave
movement.  let these sounds strengthen our resolve and inspire us
to live as profoundly as we should.  - a.r."

like i said, powerful stuff!  and there are also political action
postcards regarding the salvage rider act and tribes' demands for
a cultural and religious value assessment.  support indigenous
peoples and their efforts to preserve mother earth...

peace, love, and a voice for those who are not heard,
pony-head

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subject:      yet another recurring image...

...blood!  it's all over their lyrics, and it's getting messy!  "blood and
fire", "blood quantum", "the incense of my soul is burned by the fire
in my blood...", "true enough to bleed", "hands that shed innocent
blood", "your manic blood runs thick my friend", "spilling their sons'
blood like table wine", "bleeding its light like a lamb", "piss and blood
in a railroad car",  "the blood of love soon neglected", "a heart that
would never bleed", "in the ink of an eye i saw you bleed", "and it bled
upon my sleeve", "my blood is running dry"...there may be others, but
wow!  this is a strong image in emily and amy's music...

peace, love, and greener pastures,
ponygirl

p.s. has anyone else noticed that emily spelled "echelon" wrong in
the n*i*s booklet?!

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subject:      re: folk world

folk world sounds too good to be true! =)  i can bring some
horses along and volunteer to give horseback riding lessons to
anyone who wants them... i agree that the seattle area--or better
yet, the olympic peninsula--is the perfect place for folk world
because atlanta is too crowded (and the espresso can't compare).
just move all of our atlanta musician friends (and non-atlantans)
to seattle, and we'll be all set! =) and there can be certain days
set aside for music workshops if you want to learn a new
instrument...of course they will be taught by our musical gurus. =)

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subject:      fodder for the song ??

looking for this recording but can't seem to find it on the set lists
for any of the ejs records.  if anyone knows where i can find it,
please let me know.  thanks,

de

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subject:      5 days till bumbershoot!!! (and this is my last post, i swear:)

wow, only five days till bumbershoot.  hopefully we can get this all
together.  here are my questions:  there are all these other bands playing
in kenwood stadium throughout the day, do you think it would be possible,
to see these shows, then instead of leaving after the shows, we can stay,
and be right up close and personal for amy and emily.  what do you think?
will they kick us out of the stadium between shows?
and also, do you think people are gonna get mad at us if we become one of
those big groups of people that starts out as one or two people saving
space for 30 others?  i don't want to piss people off.
please let me know what you think about these two questions as soon as
possible!  i think we need to have everything figure out as best as we can
by wednesday or so.  love sundara

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subject:      kid fears

     does anyone know if micheal stipe sang with the ig live anywhere? or
     was this just a studio thaaaang? and...if he did sing with them live
     would any kind soul have a recording of it?
     thanks...kira

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subject:      re: the lone coyote

ok, i am not sure if i am breaking some grand internet rule about responding
to your own posts, but you know the cliche about rules being meant to be broken.
in any case, i am sitting at work (and what a weird day it has been.  i arrive
here at 8:10 am edt to my office to find that a transformer blew and that there
was no power in the building.  we all had to evacuate sit on the lawn here in
beautiful downtown newark, nj in case the second transformer blew while the
utility people fixed the problem.  it took 4 hours.  did i mention that i
work at a technical school where they teach people to be engineers and fix
problems like this?  i digress...) trying to remember where i heard that
the lone coyote reference in welcome me is about the one at the la zoo...

i keep getting a fuzzy picture of the "live at the uptown lounge" video in my
head.  i don't know  if amy says anything about it there, but i think the
video shots are of the coyote in the zoo...

cynthia

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kira raichert wrote:
>
>      does anyone know if micheal stipe sang with the ig live anywhere? or
>      was this just a studio thaaaang? and...if he did sing with them live
>      would any kind soul have a recording of it?
>      thanks...kira
>

michael performs live in a guest appearance in "kid fears" on the indigo
girls "live at the uptown lounge" video.  you can probably get it from
rdr or perhaps your local video stores, as i ordered it through
blockbuster.  hope that helps!

cyndi

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              processor" at aug 26, 96 02:53:07 pm

send me a reply and i'll help you out.

sue

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on mon, 26 aug 1996 indigopony@aol.com wrote:

> folk world sounds too good to be true! =)  i agree that the seattle area--
  or better
> yet, the olympic peninsula--is the perfect place for folk world


                 seattle grunge vs southern folk

the morning concert could have hole, foo fighters, pearl jam, presidents
of the united states, soundgarden, screaming trees and on and on

the evening concert could have indigo girls, malone, hall, aiken, griffith
and on and on

almost sounds like bumbershoot!

it would be a great sociological experiment to see how long it would take
for optimistic idealists to be converted into pessimistic defeatist by
the grungy, gray, drippy weather that produced nirvana et al.

mike, the one still trying to live the dream north of seattle.

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subject:      i think i am funnnneee (sigc)

okay, i sent this earlier today and it didn't get posted, so i need to add it
again, sorry .

<ahem>

for the misheard lyrics file, in "get out the map" (which i was listening too
this weekend after one...no, a few too many...)....

i could swear emily sings "get out the map (get out the map) and lay your
finger anywhere down...we'll give the finger to those we pass on the way out of
town"

later on, i heard
....that same sun that warms your heart will suck that booger dry

sorry, but i need to be affirmed in this idiocy. so someone mail me now and
tell me the right lyrics. thanks, squeakies!!!

susan

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subject:      don't give that girl a gun

after hearing this song at newport it became my favorite.  the only problem
is that i can't stand not knowing all the words to my favorite song...it just
doesn't work for me.
does anyone know what amy is saying in the first verse?  this is my trans.
correct me if i'm wrong      "she's got a case against me  a jury of our
peers    i'm rich and righteous    and screaming at her ears "         that
last part can't be right,but i've listened to the song a hundred times and
can't decipher it  .  please help!!
thank you--kate

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subject:      folk world

i wanna be a member of folk world!!!!  please can i come too?!!
and....it will fit in perfectly with my new plan to have amy ray's baby!
since she will be there, and i will be there, obviously she will meet
mell madly in love, and boom, my dream comes true!  hee hee love sundara

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subject:      re[2]: touch me fall

> can we discuss this song?  the "song-a-day" thread died by the time we got
> to swamp ophelia.
>
> i can't see amy as a person who would sing "i'm so beautiful".  i don't get
> this song.
well, we did get most of the way through swamp ophelia, and we did
discuss tmf. does anyone want me to repost my famed feline interpretation?
at the same time, can we reboot the song-of-the-week thread? how's about
we start with the debut album and work our way onwards? if no one protests, i
will take the matter into my own hands entirely.
kirsten

     i also thought that lorindigo got that this song was about being bald!
     kira

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reply-to:     margaret clayton <maclayto@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
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subject:      unheard lines <g>

does anyone know what comes after "it's alright if you hate me 'cuz i'm gay"
in "it's alright"?  i've never been able to hear it because the crowd
always screams so loudly :)  <g>

margaret

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 13:51:00 -0700
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subject:      get out the map (lyrics)
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ok, this is for everyone who's been asking, and i hope i'm not wrong on
any of it, because this is from memory.

get out the map

the saddest sight my eyes can see
that big ball of orange sinking slyly down the trees
sittin' in a broken circle while you rest upon my knee
this perfect moment soon be leaving me

suzanne calls from boston the coffee's hot the corn is high
the same sun that warms your heart will suck that good earth dry
with everything its opposite enough to keep you cryin'
or to keep this whole world spinning with a twinkle in its eye

get out the map (get out the map)
and lay your finger anywhere down
we'll leave the figuring to those we pass on the way out of town
don't drink the water there seems to be something ailing everyone
i'm gonna clear my head
i'm gonna drink that sun
i'm gonna love you good and strong while our love is good and young

joni left for south africa a few years ago
and beth took a job all the way over in the west coast
and me i'm still trying to live half a life on the road
heavier by the year
heavier by the load
so why do we hurtle ourselves through every inch of time and space
around (?) corner we'll sense a resting place
with every lesson learned a line upon your beautiful face
we'll amuse ourselves one day with the memories we'll trace

get out the map (get out the map)
and lay your finger anywhere down
we'll leave the figuring to those we pass on the way out of town
don't drink the water there seems to be something ailing everyone
i'm gonna clear my head
i'm gonna drink that sun
i'm gonna love you good and strong while our love is good and young


so that's it, i think!

love, wendell

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subject:      a customer sang to me!!!

you never know where a&e will appear in your day.  i was helping a customer
install a network card into a computer, and since he's from atlanta, i made
a bit of small talk.  i asked him if he's ever heard of ig.  and he started
to sing "closer to fine" !

i thought that was cool.

- jen hall

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 13:56:46 -0700
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subject:      re: folk world

at 10:47 am 8/26/96 -0700,sundara wrote ( about ar ):
>since she will be there, and i will be there, obviously she will meet
>mell madly in love, and boom, my dream comes true!  hee hee love sundara

does it hurt to mell???? gosh... sounds, uh... well a tad painful, and
a little like something that should take place in that special folk world
area set aside for pda's... :-)!!!
peace... kim
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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 21:33:10 gmt
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subject:      re: touch me fall

i don't know...  i would say that tmf gives me that feeling of being a
small person in a big room.  kind of like, everybody has forsaken me, why?
i don't know exactly, but a kid won't be afraid to come out and say
something like "but everybody likes *me*" and it gives me the same
impression, and the way everything is a demand instead of a question in the
song...  the rub your hand line reminds me of when i was young and my
mother used to do that...  (anyone gives me any "rolling your own" flames
and i swear i'll do many many bad things to them  :)  )   i don't know,
maybe i'm just talking out my ass, (i'm quite good at that, actually....)
submitted for the approval of the ig society, "the case of touch me fall"

alec

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course, in addition to all of that, we'll need a room full of musical
equipment...  all martin's (and maybe some takamine's, but whatever) on the
acoustic side, and then, well, i'm a strat fan, so a bunch of those and a
few 'pauls for good measure.. then we got drums... lot's of em, in set's
and in african type things...  as for keyboards...  all hammond organs and
borgandorfers and steinways, and then of course we can't forget all the
other instruments, but since i don't really play them, it's sort of a
difficult thing to talk about them...  oh yeah, and all the amps are fender
blues amps, all tube..


alec

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subject:      one extra misheard line from a friend

how bout....  "three hits to the hot zone" ??  and (from center stage) : '
i'm gulping slaw, i fade away..."... ***************


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  sometimes with the heart
seldom with the soul
scarcer once with the might
few - love at all.
                      --emily dickinson
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subject:      nigc--->meet me!

hey, i'm a freshman @ hardin-simmons university in abilene, tx.  i'm 18,
female, brown hair and eyes.  (hopefully that doesn't matter to you, though)
i didn't realize how cool this list was until i was off of it during the big
move from lubbock.  i want to get to know you, though.  so email me.  my
address will probably change soon when i get on the hsu internet system and
drop aol.  i love ig, and i think it would be a blast to sing and play the
guitar, but i am very discouraged, because i'm 18, and i have no idea how to
do either of them.  it has been one of my dreams to sing & play, though.  i
think i might take some vocal classes next semester.  i would love to meet
emily.  i want to someday.  i want to meet both of them someday.  is the only
way i can send emily mail through the fan club?  if anybody knows a different
address where i will have more of a chance to get read, please send it to me.
i really wanted to go to dallas, but i had new student orientation and i
need to save my money.  i will be thrilled to hear from anyone, and i have
some funny stories to share.  i guess that's about all--
amber

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 18:09:53 edt
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subject:      sotw: closer to fine!

since no one else has made their feelings known on this matter, i am taking
the song of the week into my own sweaty hands. we'll start at _indigo girls_
and wend our way through to the end, shall we? and of course, the number one
ig song in all our hearts, as well as on their very first album, is closer to
fine.
for newbies, we used to have a thread where we would discuss a different
ig song every week. it led to far more interesting discussions than the
endless barrage of "can you tell me if the indigo girls are playing in
foobarville" questions that you see now. this is my feeble attempt to start
it up once again.
!special bonus! special bonus!
my contributions to the misheard lyrics file:
*according to me*                          *reality*
"you kiss me like a lover then you         "you kiss me like a lover then
steal me like a viper"                      you sting me like a viper" (ghost)

"bumping like a pinball off a caramel       "bumping like a pinball off a
crowd"                                      careless crowd" (joking)

"dead dog on the highway, big cats are    "dead deer on the highway, median
growling at me"                            cats are growling at me" (chickenman)
"can any human being ever reach the         "can any human being ever reach
highest light?"                              that kind of light?" (galileo)

"seems like life was on a single thread    "a single light bulb on a single
for a while"                               thread for the black" (let it be me)

(and my personal favorite:)
"we'll leave the beer with those we pass   "we'll leave the figuring to those
on the way out of town"                    we pass on the way out of town"
(get out the map)

i seem to have a problem with songs with one-word titles. and as you might
have guessed, i bought 1200 curfews before rop, and thus was without the
lyrics to the first four songs for awhile.

and a final plea: does anyone have boots of the following songs?:
center stage
walk away
keeper of my heart
the girl with the weight of the world in her hands
three hits
this train revised
anyone who would like to share these with me will be rewarded with boots,
chocolate, cute members of their preferred gender, etc. (okay, only the first
one, but one can hope! :-)).

love, peace, and canada geese,
kirsten
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you have to laugh at yourself, 'cause you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't.
--emily saliers
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subject:      re: sotw: closer to fine!

at 06:09 pm 8/26/96 edt, you wrote:
>since no one else has made their feelings known on this matter, i am taking
>the song of the week into my own sweaty hands. we'll start at _indigo girls_
>and wend our way through to the end, shall we? and of course, the number one
>ig song in all our hearts, as well as on their very first album, is closer to
>fine.
*snip*

you go girl!!!


>my contributions to the misheard lyrics file:
>*according to me*                          *reality*
>"you kiss me like a lover then you         "you kiss me like a lover then
>steal me like a viper"                      you sting me like a viper" (ghost)
>
>"bumping like a pinball off a caramel       "bumping like a pinball off a
>crowd"                                      careless crowd" (joking)
>
>"dead dog on the highway, big cats are    "dead deer on the highway, median
>growling at me"                            cats are growling at me"
(chickenman)

wait, its not dead dog? uh oh...

>"can any human being ever reach the         "can any human being ever reach
>highest light?"                              that kind of light?" (galileo)
>

they sing both of these, the first two are "that kind of" the third(final)
time is "highest" right??? thats what i read...


tiff---who is even more confused about lyrics than before...but it certainly
makes for a good laugh...

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subject:      re: dallas concert

    i have to agree that some of the crowd at the dallas show was
rude and obnoxious! i couldn't believe they cheered when emily was
singing about burning black churches in texas. but, i am a yankee
in bronco bill's court and can not believe the racism that exists
here!  anyway! enough of that!  i was soooo into the girls myself
that i wasn't going to let anything spoil it for me!  the show was
too short, but as i said earlier today, i probably wouldn't have
been satisfied until they played every tune i wanted to hear....and
that's a whole hell of a lot!  fabulous show just the same...one
i'll never forget!

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subject:      re: lone coyote

maybe the lone coyote represents la.....she will be the first to
embrace it and the last to set it free.... i see the whole song as
a kinda "hey la....i hear you are so tough.... but you can't break
me" kinda sond..... but of course, that's just my opinion, i could
be wrong.

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subject:      misheard lyrics

swamp ophelia was released in the usa something like two weeks before it
was released in the uk. the girls started the uk tour two or three days
before the release so the album was unfamiliar. however, we did have a
taped copy which a friend of a friend sent from the usa. so we listened to
this tape so that we would get to know the new material befor the
tour....... i must point out that we did buy the album when it was
eventually released.  here are some of our misheard lyrics:

this is how i heard the first line of "power of two"......"now the pork and
lard is empty......" i wondered for some time what the hell emily was
singing about :)

when amy introduced this train (revised) my friends heard "this train with
eyes". visions of thomas the tank engine  (a children's train character who
has a face) sprang to mind. we wondered if amy had been watching children's
tv or something :)

in "reunion"i heard "all you pretty pretenders, negligent benders". in the
uk bender is a term for someone who is gay. i thought that amy was making
some big attack on the gay community :)

i put it all down to their accents, tape/recording quality and my ears
which are shot after going to so many loud concerts :)

sharon... the brit abroad..... three days to bumbershoot and counting!!

"i can't imagine having separate careers. my greatest fear is that it'll end."
                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

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subject:      make it easier

why have i never heard this song in concert?? i wasn't "introduced"
to the girls until after the second album... i have seen them
numerous times, but have never heard that song! anyone have a live
version of it?? they rock on that one! it is definately in my top 3
favorites!!  btw...love this forum!  hi ya'll.....glad to know ya!

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subject:      song of the week

hi y'all from lovely and hot greenville, nc.

please revive song of the week!  this makes for fun reading!  you go kirsten!

finally, finally, i will be able to get my page up!!! yahoo!!  i'm gonna fix
the directory right now!  i also think it would be interesting for us to post
some of the sotw interpretations on our websites.  i'll volunteer to do a few.

i really should be studying organic chemistry right now, but this is really
much more fun.

mary

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subject:      re: sotw: closer to fine!

at 06:09 pm 8/26/96 edt, kirsten wrote:
>since no one else has made their feelings known on this matter, i am taking
>the song of the week into my own sweaty hands. we'll start at _indigo girls_
>and wend our way through to the end, shall we? and of course, the number one
>ig song in all our hearts, as well as on their very first album, is closer to
>fine.

<kim climbs atop her wheeled chair, teeters madly but gains her balance,
then salutes kirsten's bold step with a resounding standing ovation ( giving
no mind to the fact that she is the only one in the house who knows why she
is doing this , and that the kids are really looking at her strangely now...)>
*i love this thread*!!!!! thanx kirsten. :-)
peace all... kim ( looking forward to many many posts ala' closer to fine ).
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     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      re: alt.music.indigo-girls

sometimes you have to indicate "news", in which case the entire path would
be

news.alt.music.indigo-girls

it depends on what software & internet provider you're using.  you may have
to contact your internet provider and ask for them to include that
newsgroup in their newsgroup offerings.  i had to fit and bitch to get
compuserve to get it.  aol has access.

it's kinda like cablevision.  just because you have cable doesn't mean you
have "the history channel".  you have to ask them to offer it.

hope this will get you there!
- jen hall
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original text
from lisa savu <weenracer@aol.com>, on 8/26/96 11:36 am:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

i've been reading all of these posts about alt.music.indigo-girls, but i
can't get there...  what's the exact address i have to type in for this
newsgroup?

--lisa

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from:         mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
subject:      ctf--sotw

taking a break from electron pushing........

first, i did not realize my pretty little sig file would get all screwed up
in the posts!!  sorry!  apologies to all those who received something that
looked like crap.

anyway, the line in ctf which has the most meaning for me (and i am sure that
scads of us can relate to this) is "i've spent four years prostrate to the
higher mind, got my paper and i was free."  i've only spent two so far, but
i'm getting there.....

the song has also taught me a lot about not worrying too much.  sometimes the
less you know, the better off you'll be.  "the less i seek my source for some
definitive, the closer i am to fine"--how true.  i wish i had heeded that
advice when i had a broken heart earlier in the year.  but now i'm living with
what happened, back with many of my old friends, and feeling much better.  to
deb in san francisco--i hear ya.  i've been there not too long ago, and "love
will come to you" got me through a tough time.

ctf seems like the perfect song to play around my thesis advisor.  he's moving
into the lab with the rest of us soon....emily sure did write the perfect song
for the college years.

back to pushing electrons.........
mary

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date:         mon, 26 aug 1996 17:31:23 -0700
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subject:      re: folk world
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hey!  the grungies, grays and drippies grew me, and i'm no angst-ridden
nirvanan.  lots of us thrive on the moss and slugs...as anyone who stayed
to the bitter end of endfest 94 could attest, the true washingtonians
grabbed the lemons and water bottles left over in the pouring july evening
rain and danced our asses off to james!  :)  i think it would be paradise.
:)
still thanking indigopony,
the reborn creature...gwendigo

>
> it would be a great sociological experiment to see how long it would take
> for optimistic idealists to be converted into pessimistic defeatist by
> the grungy, gray, drippy weather that produced nirvana et al.
>
> mike, the one still trying to live the dream north of seattle.
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subject:      folk world

folk world the logical place to have a.r.'s baby?  hmmm...perhaps there should be
a designated *fantasy* area as well as a pda area at folk world...(ducking and running)

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subject:      georgia - mare wittingham

okay someone just told me that is mare wittingham's voice in georgia and i
feel like a real idiot.  she has a lovely voice... i thought she was just an
actress.  does anyone know more?  recordings?

michelle

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subject:      joy harjo/poetic justice

for those who've gotten the honor cd, if you like the cut by joy harjo &
poetic justice, you might be interested to know that harjo's most recent
book ("the woman who fell from the sky") can be found in a special
deluxe-edition package with the book in hardcover *and* a tape of harjo
reading, some of which includes music by poetic justice. it's a pretty
nifty tape, and the book ain't half bad either. :) she has been one of my
absolute favorite poets for years (i've heard her read twice and she is
absolutely beautiful, in the spiritual as well as physical sense) and i
was pretty thrilled to hear the ig's had picked up on her. always knew
those girls had good taste. *grin* anyhow, harjo's poem "creation story"
which appears on honor is included in "the woman who fell from the sky."
and if anyone wants more information on her, like the names of her other
books, feel free to email me privately.

anne in indiana

    a strange beautiful woman                what you doing here?
    met me in the mirror                     she asked me
    the other night.                         the same thing.
    hey,                                        --marilyn nelson waniek
    i said,
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subject:      re: ctf--sotw

okay all... i'll add to this thread... ( and please forgive my
over-abundance of posting these past couple of days... i promise i'll lurk
some after this... )
at 08:49 pm 8/26/96 edt, mary wrote:

>anyway, the line in ctf which has the most meaning for me (and i am sure that
>scads of us can relate to this) is "i've spent four years prostrate to the
>higher mind, got my paper and i was free."  i've only spent two so far, but
>i'm getting there.....

i like this take of mary's + it made me rethink my idea about what the line
was about...
mine had e as a psychiatric patient ( is it possible i relate strongly?? ) :-)
this image grew in my cramped + tiny little thought forum because of e's
line "i went to see a doctor of philosophy, with a picture of rasputin and a
beard down to his knees. he never did marry, or see a b-grade movie, he
graded my performance and said he could see through me... i spent four years
prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and i was free..." for some
reason those words all conjured up e prostrate on the psychiatrist's couch
going through 4 years of soul searching only to find the less she tried to
"find herself" and the reason for her existing etc etc... the better off,
emotionally + mentally she was... :-) after all... she was living *her*
life... the doc wasn't... how could he figure her out if'n he hadn't "walked
in her shoes"?
anyhoo that's my take.
ctf is one of my all time favorite ig songs, always makes me feel "up" and
happy, like h + n... and to think when emily first played ctf for amy, amy
didn't think it was one of her stronger songs :-)
shows to go ya...
peace... kim.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
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subject:      georgia - dar williamas? (nigc)

i just saw georgia, the film with jennifer jason leigh and mare wittingham.
does anyone know who did mare wittingham's voice over...its wasn't her was
it?  sounded a lot like dar williams.  some great tunes was there a sound
track?

did anyone else like this film...i really enjoyed it.

michelle

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subject:      (nigc) bill staines & i survived!

went to a loverly bill staines concert this evening which was a wonderful
way to top off a frenzied day-- my first at high school! (that's what the
survival bit refers to.) so, i just thought i'd share that with anyone out
ther who's a bill staines fan. i'd be glad to share concert details with
anyone who's interested. in the meanwhile, i'm adjusting to life as a
freshman...


                  ~abigail

"all god's critters got a place in the choir
some sing low, some sing higher
some sing out loud on the telephone wire
and some just clap their hands, paws, or anything they got now..."

                        ~bill staines
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      watershed video

so i'm sittin here watching watershed in order to get my daily emily fix
and pot  comes on..the first verse and chorus goes by,,em sings "multiply
life by the power of two.." theres a cut to the upper left hand 1/4 of
the screen of a couple riding a bike..then a cut to the bottom
right!/4...am i seeing things or is that the briefest picture of amy
sittin of a couch with her arm around someone?????am i seeing things???
or are these old eyes decieving me??
pooh ( who spent her day testifying at a trial and learned a wonderful
lessons about our justice system..it ain't  nothing like o.j.
kiddies..real life trials are a farce..avoid 'em if you can!!!)

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subject:      joking on watershed

i watched watershed last night and i'm not really understanding the concept
behind the "joking" video.  amy says it "deals with the political aspect of
the song.  she says: "it's a particular song about a relationship, but i
felt it was crossing over to politics in a certain way." and something about
"a relationshiop is a relationship no matter what sex you are and i wanted
to make a video to show how people become vulnerable to each other and how
they don't become vulnerable."

what i don't get is where are the politics in "joking"?  how does the video
depict this?  i was thinking along the lines of how society says you're
supposed to have a relationship but i'm lost.  please give me your thoughts!

have an indigo day!!

rob

p.s. don't you love the video for "power of two"? especially the pictures of
the kids holding hands in front of the bullitin board, the marriage license
signs, and the old people dancing.  amy says after it "the house was cold
though."  emily: "the house was freezing...it'll be a looong time 'fore we
do that again!" :)

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subject:      watershef pt.2

ok..moving alomg in the tape..amy's talking about how they had learned to
play junkies lament for the pta that emily couldn't show up for..then
they cut to a concert shot and em is reaching down to get some carnations
from the audience..she gives one  to amy who puts it in her mouth..em
says something and they all laugh..what are they saying there//never
could figure it out???
anyone??

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subject:      re: watershef pt.2
x-to:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>

you know, you would be truly amazed at what a really good watershef can
do with simple h2o. ;)

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

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subject:      re: biscuits and bumbershoot

just skimmed the last 4 days of list postings...when i was in atlanta last
summer i read in atlanta magazine that emily is friends w/the owners of the
flying biscuit (not sure if she owns part of it) and that the cool wooden
bench in front of the restaurant was a gift from emily to them...it is a
great place to eat!

sundara and i have been thinking of a place listees can meet after ig concert
at bumbershoot...there's a cool coffee place (in seattle, go figure) called
the rosebud that's open till 3:00 a.m.--if ya'll want to go there, i'll post
directions later this week--it's on pike or pine, i always forget which is
which!  only a few more days!!!  :)

-ruth

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subject:      re: georgia - dar williamas? (nigc)
in-reply-to:  <960826205143_269398193@emout19.mail.aol.com>

if i remember correctly there was something about this movie on
entertainment tonight back when it first came out in the theatres..
i think they both did their own  singing.
it was a pretty good movie either way  ;)


*shrug*

alexis


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subject:      re: folk world

in a message dated 96-08-26 16:46:09 edt, that wacky sundara writes:

<< i wanna be a member of folk world!!!!  please can i come too?!!
and....it will fit in perfectly with my new plan to have amy ray's baby! >>

you know...that reminded me of the first time i saw indigo girls
at the pine street theater in portland, oregon ('89)......
a note got passed up to the stage and emily picked it up and
read..."i love you and i want to have your baby." she smiled, folded
it back up and handed it to amy, saying, "it's for you."
:)
must have been an inside joke :)
binky
men ! lock up your wives ! amy ray is coming to town !
(and you know how they get ;)

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subject:      re: lone coyote

coyote

a cat eating varmit !

;)

binky

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subject:      ctf!!!!

i love this song!  by some horrid mishap i didn't hear it until i bought
1200c and didn't adore it for some time after...but now i have seen the
light!  the whole premise of it...i made a comment to a friend recently,
actually in a very pain-filled letter, that i had no clue what the words
meant but singing them to myself would do wonders for any malaise.  i'm
trying to tell you something 'bout my life, maybe give me insight between
black and white...just the whole tone of searching for some grand, glorious
knowledge while realizing that life doesn't work that way, that you learn as
you go and never get one big revelation to solve all your problems.
something that's hard for me, anyway, to learn (hardest to learn...least
complicated?  sorry, i'll save that one for another week =).  taking it a bit
at a time and having great music all the way along :)
love 'n indigos 'n all that is fine
katy

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subject:      re: folk world

hey, is mary chapin carpenter moving into folk world too?  if so i'd be very
happy, she's the newest of my musical "wow i can't believe i never heard her
before!" discoveries.  :)  and hey, if sundara gets to have amy's kid, can i
have her second kid?  :)
katy

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subject:      re: sotw

>
>date:    mon, 26 aug 1996 18:09:53 edt
>from:    kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
>subject: sotw: closer to fine!
>
>since no one else has made their feelings known on this matter, i am taking
>the song of the week into my own sweaty hands. we'll start at _indigo girls_
>and wend our way through to the end, shall we? and of course, the number one
>ig song in all our hearts, as well as on their very first album, is closer to
>fine.
>for newbies, we used to have a thread where we would discuss a different
>ig song every week. it led to far more interesting discussions than the
>endless barrage of "can you tell me if the indigo girls are playing in
>foobarville" questions that you see now. this is my feeble attempt to start
>it up once again.
>

uhmm, but like wouldn't a sote from the fiest i.g. album have to be
something from strange fire?   (my vote would be hey jesus)

dave neale

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>
> uhmm, but like wouldn't a sote from the fiest i.g. album have to be
> something from strange fire?   (my vote would be hey jesus)
>
this is true, but for those of us who did not discover the glory of ig until
their epic years, the first album is _ig_. anyway, we'll be on to sf in, oh,
11 weeks! 8-)p
kirsten


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subject:      jen hall, please email me!!! (nigc)

sorry to waste bandwidth, buddies

susan

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in-reply-to:  <9608271149.aa01047@spike.wellesley.edu> from "kirsten chevalier"
              at aug 27, 96 07:49:23 am

didn't we all do this about a year ago?  are we going to be reading
posts that we've already read?  i don't mean to rain on anyone's
parade, and i know that i can simply delete the messages, but
it seems like we just did this a short while ago.

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subject:      more on the las cruces show
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on sun, 25 aug 1996, sunny wrote:

> really special.  the show was on the new mexico state university campus in
> the student union building upstairs in the ballroom, which was like seeing
> them in a bathroom!

well..... a really big bathroom..  i have to admit, i was very concerned
about the acoustics, show dynamics, etc that were going to be affected by
the setup of the room but sunny, you're right.  it made the show very
special.  the only thing that seperated us in the front row from the girls
was about 3 feet and a couple of floor speakers.  the girls from missouri
(hi andrea and friends...) had a small posterboard that had the number
"10" written on it and everytime the girls would play a new song, andrea
would hold up the sign.  the girls chuckled at the rating but thought it
could have been a ..bit...slanted?  actually, the new songs are awesome.
those of you who have said so are truly correct.  can't wait for the cd.

> several times.  they kept saying how quiet we were and how good that was
> because these were quiet songs.

yeah, i noticed at both shows (las cruces and santa fe) that the audience
was very polite during the quiet songs.  we were very fortunate (unlike
some of you list members who had bad experiences during the quiet songs)
that the audience was really wanting to hear the concert.  so, maybe it
was just that sweet, southwestern hospitality shining through  ;-)

> went down there with donna from the  list.  really nice people.  carrie
> gave me a plastic cockroack on wheels, so i ate that. <joke>

yeah, i'm sorry though cause i forgot the condem-ments. oh well, there's
next time, eh?  it was really nice meeting folks from the list.  if you
haven't had the chance yet and there's an upcoming show coming your way,
do it!!  hook up with list members!!  it's fun, really.  you never know
what could happen (hi victoria....).

hey donna,

how's the underwire?


on the santa fe show...

it rained, it thundered, it was lightning but the girls played on.  i'm
not going to go into a lot of detail about this because that's sunny's
for-tay (?) but basically, the storm stopped the show for about 15
minutes.  emily (who seemed rested and in really happy spirits) kept
mentioning what a great night it was to be singing into a mic, referring
to getting shocked.  but, after the delay and the lightning passing, the
show went on.  the girls would occasionally mention how much they
appreciated all of us standing out in the rain while they were under a
huge tarp.  which, comparing to the lc show, they were really working
their asses off.  they changed around the show a bit and really tried to
make it worth us sitting on concrete steps/seats possibly getting
pneumonia.  so...basically,  they rocked.  it was a great show.  but, i'm
sure that sunny will give us the full rundown of the sf show as well as
the mesa, az show.

have a good one ya'll.

carrie

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date:         tue, 27 aug 1996 06:00:57 +0000
reply-to:     "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
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subject:      re: sotw

jim fagan wrote:
>
> didn't we all do this about a year ago?  are we going to be reading
> posts that we've already read?  i don't mean to rain on anyone's
> parade, and i know that i can simply delete the messages, but
> it seems like we just did this a short while ago.
>
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well, i see your point, but there are new people signing on all the
time. it might be fun to let them in on this. i forget who started this,
but whoever it was... it might be a good idea to pick songs that were
not used last time. for me personally, i missed out on most of that
thread, cause i just got here a few months ago, so bring it on. 8^)

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subject:      wild horses

hi folks!

can someone tell me some lyrics to wild horses?  i can't understand the first
verse... it sounds to me like amy sings, "a childhood friend..." something ("is
easy to lose"???).  i never can tell what she's saying after that (if that is
even what she is saying).

and.. when mm sings, "you made me feel bitter..." something.  i can't tell what
she says there.

i love that song!... just can't get certain parts.

anyhow, if someone could clear that up, i'd be greatly appreciative!

everyone, have a great day!!!!!

peace,
tamara

p.s. if anyone has *all* of the lyrics for wh, you can forward me those...  :)
that way, i won't have to contribute to the mr. limes thread!!

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subject:      re: wild horses

in a message dated 96-08-27 09:37:23 edt, 103660.214@compuserve.com (tamara
mizell) writes:

<< p.s. if anyone has *all* of the lyrics for wh, you can forward me those...
:)
that way, i won't have to contribute to the mr. limes thread!!
  >>

ooh ooh ooh!!!  i also am in desperate need of the wild horses lyrics, so i
second the request!!

:)
rick
      on my way to see the spitfire grill! yee-haw!!

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subject:      another item for sale...

hello again!
once again i am offering an autographed item for sale...
this time it is a concert advertisment poster fro the rop tour.  it is indigo
blue with a picture of two women dressed in old-fashioned clothing (i'm
pretty sure it's not a & e, but if it is, they look totally different!).
this particular poster is from the show on tuesday may 4, 1993 at the
tupperware convention center in kissimee, fl.  i had access to backstage and
was able to catch-up with both of the girls, and they signed it.
again, make an offer... highest offer by friday gets it!!
thanks!
~~robin

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subject:      mail problem

does anyone know how i can get my list mail together in one big post? i know
there's an address that you can send a request to, but i don't have it.
thanks in advance.

hugs,
deb

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date:         tue, 27 aug 1996 10:51:21 edt
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subject:      play on words (nigc)

--- binky wrote:
coyote

a cat eating varmit !

;)

binky
--- end of quoted material ---

that's funny, i thought varmit was what you did after having one, no, a few too
many.....

tee hee

susan

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subject:      color me grey

does anyone out there have a copy of "color me grey?"  i've got some
bootlegs of old concerts, squeaky, etc. if you want to trade.  otherwise,
i'd be happy to send you a tape to dub it on.  thanks a lot!

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x-to:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
in-reply-to:  <9608271149.aa01047@spike.wellesley.edu>

okay my ig experience i didnt find the girls till rop i seen the video for
galilio and loved it went to see them in concert and while i liked a few
of there other songs enough to go get thier other cds(big fish enxemble
opened anyone got a copy of the tape that was out then theyed make me a
copy of mine is long since gone its the  one that has the dog song on it)
anyway the did not play galilio which made me very pissedd off i mean
thats your single u got out the one your going on tour for and u dont play
it not even for a encore but needless to say im here (im not queer<g>) and
i own all the normal cds plus boots
hugs anthony van pyre resident hug god of folk world


on tue, 27 aug 1996, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > uhmm, but like wouldn't a sote from the fiest i.g. album have to be
> > something from strange fire?   (my vote would be hey jesus)
> >
> this is true, but for those of us who did not discover the glory of ig until
> their epic years, the first album is _ig_. anyway, we'll be on to sf in, oh,
> 11 weeks! 8-)p
> kirsten
>
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subject:      nigc: michelle malone

ever since the nyc show, i have been dying to get my hands on some of
michelle malone's stuff.  checked the local records stores and they
said either they did not have anything and antoher one said that no
one can get it right now.  i would appreciate any information you
guys might have. thanks. :)

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subject:      wild horses

hey, everyone.  these are the lyrics to wild horses.  i might be missing a
verse, maybe someone else could fill it in.

childhood living was easy for you
the things that you wanted, i got them for you
graceless lady, you know who i am
you know i can't let you slide through my hands

wild horses couldn't drag me away
wild horses couldn't drag me away

i watched you suffer a dull aching pain
now you've decided to show me the same
no sweeping exits or off stage lines
could make me feel bitter or treat you unkind

wild horses couldn't drag me away
wild horses couldn't drag me away


faith has been broken
tears must be cried
let's do some living after we've died

wild horses couldn't drag me away
wild horses we'll ride them someday

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subject:      star trek / stephen king (igc honest !!)

i was watching bbc2 last night as they had a night dedicated to the 30th
anniversary of star trek and one of the programmes they showed was all about the
technical background and how the enterprise would never fly (ye cannie change
the laws o' physics) and the transporter wouldn't work cos of all the atoms in
the human body etc...  it was really interesting (sez gail, removing her
anorak).  but at the end when the credits came up, it turns out that the show
was an *a+e production*.  zoinks !!  amy is a star trek fan, right ??  have the
girls moved into tv/film production ??

also, this has probably already been mentioned but in stephen king's book rose
madder (story about an abused wife who finally runs away from her b*stard police
detective husband but then things start getting spookie) and the abused wife
goes to live in a womans shelter and the shelter organise a "fund raising" day
and guess who are the special guests at the concert ??  yup, our very own indigo
girls.  stephen king has, in recent books, been trying to be p.c. and include
"lesbian" characters.

ok, thats all really.

toodles :)

gail

p.s. in between all the programmes, they kept doing little cartoon skits on well
used star trek phrases.  my favourite was a singer sewing machine being kicked,
whipped and then held at gunpoint - at which point it started to sew.  the
phrase ?  jean-luc picard saying "make it so." lol !!!

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subject:      austin show????

just a quick question for a few select individuals.....i met a few of
you in line at the concert....2 maybe 3 of you had your list shirts
on...and ya'll sat next to us at the concert....there were about 4 of
ya'll together and you kept taking turns going to the front of the
stage...passing the ticket stub....if you are out there...email me ....
it's not urgent...
kelly

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subject:      nigc heading out...

ok, my kitty knows something is up, mom got the carrier out of the closet.
she isnt very happy cause she thinks it's vaccination time. wrong sweetie,
we're going to bremerton! (woo)

did i ever tell y'all i adopted a kitten earlier this month? i named her
sophie cause she looks like a sophie. she's a tortie and now 14 weeks old.
i love her so much already, it's crazy. :) she gets to go to bremerton
with me to visit my folks and meet her 4 kitty cousins.

i of course am heading south to see ani on the 30th and ig on the 31st in
seattle. bumpershoot ya know. ;) i'll keep an eye out for people i
recognize from the new orleans trip on both days, hope to see a lot of you
there! i'll remain subbed to the digest but could anyone organizing
seattle meetings email me personally so i wont miss it? i can call into my
system up here ld after the rates drop every night.

thanks :)
kristina

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subject:      bumpershoot question

isn't bumpershoot an l.a. problem -- you know, all those crazy drivers on
the freeway?

heehee
kristina

p.s. yesyesyes i know it's really bumbershoot, im pokin' fun at the
postcard we received from the ig fan club. is it just me or does
'fan club' sound really dorky. hmm...

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subject:      re: folk world
x-to:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>

here here!  dancing with empty water bottles to laid is one of my
favorite concert memories.  seattle would be a great place.

-jessi

>----------
>from:  gwen keyt[smtp:gkeyt@paul.spu.edu]
>sent:  monday, august 26, 1996 5:31 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       re: folk world
>
>hey!  the grungies, grays and drippies grew me, and i'm no angst-ridden
>nirvanan.  lots of us thrive on the moss and slugs...as anyone who stayed
>to the bitter end of endfest 94 could attest, the true washingtonians
>grabbed the lemons and water bottles left over in the pouring july evening
>rain and danced our asses off to james!  :)  i think it would be paradise.
>:)
>still thanking indigopony,
>the reborn creature...gwendigo
>
>>
>> it would be a great sociological experiment to see how long it would take
>> for optimistic idealists to be converted into pessimistic defeatist by
>> the grungy, gray, drippy weather that produced nirvana et al.
>>
>> mike, the one still trying to live the dream north of seattle.
>>
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subject:      re: star trek / stephen king (igc honest !!)
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              anthony" at aug 27, 96 12:32 pm

gail writes:

> but at the end when the credits came up, it turns out that the show
> was an *a+e production*.  zoinks !!  amy is a star trek fan, right ??
> have the girls moved into tv/film production ??

a&e is probably "arts and entertainment," and american
cable/production company, but it is really cute =)

personally, i want to get amy hooked on babylon 5, which i'm finding
is much superior to ds9 and voyager =)  i think i saw someone
on the list with a b5 sig -- i can't wait for the final 5 *bounce*

                oh well *ramble off*,

                        chris

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         every man has gone before.

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from:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
subject:      nigc: james at endfest
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from:    gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>

> lots of us thrive on the moss and slugs...as anyone who stayed
> to the bitter end of endfest 94 could attest, the true washingtonians
> grabbed the lemons and water bottles left over in the pouring july evening
> rain and danced our asses off to james!  :)  i think it would be paradise.

oh gwen, that was such an incredible night. it was blistering hot all day
(well, blistering for wa, i sunburned badly). right before james came out
it started pouring down rain! it was dark outside as well. there's
something about dancing madly at an outdoor concert in the evening summer
rain that is quite magical. james put a lot of energy into their set and
we didn't want it to end. :) thanks for the reminding me about that night,
i had forgotten about it til just now. i think washington is a perfect
location for folk world. i'm ready to move in!

leaving for real,
kristina

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from:         jude shabry <jude@arisia.org>
subject:      re: star trek / stephen king (no more igc :)
in-reply-to:  your message of "tue, 27 aug 1996 13:27:40 edt."
              <199608271727.naa19854@netspace.org>

"christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu> writes:
> personally, i want to get amy hooked on babylon 5, which i'm finding
> is much superior to ds9 and voyager =)  i think i saw someone
> on the list with a b5 sig -- i can't wait for the final 5 *bounce*

me, me! :)   and i'll refrain from saying more since this is not the
place for a st v. b5 flame war, even though anyone who thinks
differently from me is obviously completely insane.. :)

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subject:      folk world

i definately agree with indigopony!!  folk world should be on the olympic
peninsula!  i'm from the olympic peninsula.  we could have it somewhere
near sequim (my hometown), because, it's warm and doesn't rain there!!  and
for fun, we can all visit my parents house and jump on my big trampoline
and run around in the fresh air!  the olympic peninsula is the best!!!!!
yay for folk world being on the olympic peninsula!  you go indigopony!
love sundara
(and then, when i have amy ray's baby, my mom will not be deprived of her
grandchild :))  (i have to get off this kick of having amy ray's baby, i
keep pulling out the notes from 1200c and showing everyone her picture and
saying, won't our children be cute!)

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subject:      mell..

okay,  i'm not going to mell with ar,  i'm going to fall in love with her.
or she's going to fall in love with me.  my typing skills are beginning to
scare me:) love sundara

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subject:      (nigc): clinton proclaims women's equality day (8/26/96

thought y'all might be interested!... (sorry it's one day late)...@=d
----------------------------------------------------------
text of proclamation by president clinton on women's equality

by the president of the united states of america a proclamation

since america's earliest days, our citizens have engaged in a passionate
struggle to create a nation where all can enjoy the benefits of democracy
in equal measure.

in 1920, we took a great step toward that noble goal by declaring that
the
right to vote could not be denied on the basis of gender. this 76th
anniversary of the adoption of the 19th amendment to the constitution
gives us an opportunity to celebrate the advances made in empowering
women
to fully participate in the political, cultural, social, and economic
life
of our country.

at long last we are seeing the fruits of our efforts to establish a
society made strong by its vast diversity -- a place where women not only
make gains in traditionally male fields, but also use their talents and
perspectives to enlarge the scope of public life. the extraordinary
success of our female athletes at the centennial olympic games in atlanta
is one stirring example of this progress. historically excluded from so
many arenas, today's women are carrying a shining torch of hope for
younger generations to follow.

now the challenge is to keep the doors of opportunity open and to build
on
the changes begun by the ratification of the 19th amendment. we must
continue to encourage women to pursue elected office and to contribute to
the civil discourse. every american stands to gain when women and men of
all backgrounds participate in the political process and exercise their
right to vote. this is a right that we must never take for granted -- and
a responsibility we must never shirk -- because it gives each of us a
voice in our national debate and calls every citizen to join in the
pursuit of our nation's fundamental ideals.

now, therefore, i, william j. clinton, president of the united states of
america, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the constitution and
laws of the united states, do hereby proclaim august 26, 1996, as women's
equality day.

i call upon all americans to reflect on both the struggles and
accomplishments of all women and to promote the observance of this day
with appropriate programs and activities.

in witness whereof, i have hereunto set my hand this twenty-first day of
august, in the year of our lord nineteen hundred and ninety-six, and of
the independence of the united states of america the two hundred and
twenty-first.

william j. clinton

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got this from the ig newsgroup....thought you'd be interested.


from my friend max in st. louis:

oh...one other small release mention. blue plate records which puts out
the mountain stage discs has a women of mountain stage release slated for
the 27th of this month which according to my notes includes tracks from
the indigo girls, k d lang, ani difranco, and joan baez.

from john cooperider:

for all who are interested, i have set up a website for all the pictures i
took at newport this year.  it has quite a few good close ups, including
quite a few of suzanne vega and the indigo girls.

the url is:   http://www2.pcix.com/~coop/folkpage/newport.html

you can go directly to the indigo part at
http://www2.pcix.com/~coop/folkpage/girls/girls.html

enjoy,

john cooperider
pcix.com

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subject:      watershed

okay, i am now sufficiently jealous. i have been wondering this for a
while, but have been too lazy to ask.  where can i get the watershed video?
thanks:)  love sundara

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subject:      re: biscuits and bumbershoot
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i've been scratching my head over the rosebud...i havn't heard of it,
though that's not anything to be ashamed of, since seattle has more
restaurants and movie theaters per capita than any other city in the
country...so i looked it up.  first i found a place in wallingford, but it
seems to be closed because i then looked in the white pages and the only
rosebud was located at 719 pike.  so there's the address, and now i'm on a
mission to get a raspberry mocha there and see what this place is like! :)
an alternative, if we need one, would be minnie's, on denny near the
seattle center.  (always need a plan b...)

> sundara and i have been thinking of a place listees can meet after ig concert
> at bumbershoot...there's a cool coffee place (in seattle, go figure) called
> the rosebud that's open till 3:00 a.m.--if ya'll want to go there, i'll post
> directions later this week--it's on pike or pine, i always forget which is
> which!  only a few more days!!!  :)
>
> -ruth
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subject:      re: ctf--sotw
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on mon, 26 aug 1996, mary kushman wrote:

> anyway, the line in ctf which has the most meaning for me (and i am sure that
> scads of us can relate to this) is "i've spent four years prostrate to the
> higher mind, got my paper and i was free."  i've only spent two so far, but
> i'm getting there.....

as someone who worked hard to be able to pay for those 4 years (and later, a
graduate degree), i've always hated those lines, and the emphasis emily places
on them in concert.  while it may not accomplish all that we might hope, i
think undergraduate education is a *wonderful* experience which should not be
taken for granted.

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subject:      sotw_

i've always thought of ctf as the indigo girls anthem.  i used to belong
to a youth organization and we used to sit around singing while someone
would play the guitar.  inevitably ctf would come up.  i knew the song
years before i knew who sang it.  in fact,  so was the first ig album i
bought and it was released years after ig-ig.  anyways, back to ctf, i love
the sound of the song.
it just
needs to be played in the car while speedig down the highways and singing
at the top of your lungs.  i also like a lot of the lines...the best thing
you ever did for me was to help me take my life less seriously...i feel
that that is such an important lesson (emily seem to believe quite
strongly in not taking yourself too seriously ie in lc on 1200 curfews she
talks about laughing at herself so as not to cry.)
okay so i realize that nothing i said was to insightful...oh well

singingly,
lisa

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on tue, 27 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> once again i am offering an autographed item for sale...

> this particular poster is from the show on tuesday may 4, 1993 at the
> tupperware convention center in kissimee, fl.  i had access to backstage and
> was able to catch-up with both of the girls, and they signed it.

and i'm sure they'd be thrilled to know that you are now auctioning it off on
the list.  that's the kind of thing that makes performers stop letting fans
backstage, and signing autographs, and i can't say that i blame them.

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subject:      women's equality day

so...if if aug 26 is women's equality day, what are the rest of the days of
the year?  answer: discrimination!  sorry, sometimes that bitter feminist
side of me comes out.  every day should be women's equality day.  women
should just be equal, then we don't have to celebrate it.  it should be a
fact of life. i bet in folk world, we won't have a problem with it!!!
love sundara

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subject:      re: (nigc): clinton proclaims women's equality day (8/26/96

the things politicians will do these days to get re-elected...

not that i don't think bill did this with anything but good intentions,
but i would rather have women's equality everyday, if you know what
i mean.

maybe we should add this to folk world, or something?  hmm? :)

anna

"how come i can pick my ears but not my nose? who
made up that rule anyway? how come you say that's
the way it goes? why don't you decide for yourself
what you can do and what you can say?"  - ani difranco

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subject:      joking & watershed

i have a tape of "world cafe" with an interview with the igs about rop.
amy was asked about "joking" and said it was about a relationship where
you were investing more time (and caring) into the relationship than the
other person was. this is hardly verbatim what she says, but it's the jist
of it. i can go back and listen and transcribe it, if you like.

on "watershed" - the part where emily gets flowers from the audience
and says something and the audience laughs ..... after she gets the
flowers - watch amy (on the video). it's subtle, but she ever so slightly
reaches for a flower and emily pulls back just a little. emily says
"i think they were both for me then you reach your greedy little
hand out ..." emily give amy one of them, they put them on their mike
stands and amy says, "teach me, o goddess of wit." and emily breaks up.

i had trouble understanding what was being said when i first saw it and
some kind person from this list helped out by posting what they said.
watch the clip again, after reading this - you can make out what they
say when you sorta know what you're listening for.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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subject:      re: (nigc): clinton proclaims women's equality day (8/26/96

chickensoprano wrote:
>
> the things politicians will do these days to get re-elected...
>
> not that i don't think bill did this with anything but good intentions,
> but i would rather have women's equality everyday, if you know what
> i mean.

i'd certainly prefer an everyday thing as well, and absolutely believe that
politicians would do (almost!) anything to get elected, but i do think this
proclamation had more to do with the fact that yesterday (the 26th) was the
anniversary of the ratification of the 19th amendment, giving women in the
us the right to vote.  last year, for teh 75th anniversary, the us postal
service issued a special stamp for it, and i didn't see that as a huge boost
for their ratings or anything...

- elizabeth :)

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subject:      re: ctf--sotw
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              at aug 27, 96 2:56 pm

        "i went to see the doctor of philosophy
         with a poster of rasputin and a beard down to his knee.
         he never did marry, or see a b grade movie.
         he graded my performance, he said he could see through me.
         i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind,
         got my paper and i was free."


deb writes:

> as someone who worked hard to be able to pay for those 4 years (and later, a
> graduate degree), i've always hated those lines, & the emphasis emily places
> on them in concert.  while it may not accomplish all that we might hope, i
> think undergraduate education is a *wonderful* experience which should not be
> taken for granted.

while i agree with you deb, i still see where em is coming from.

its very annoying that no one will hire me to do what i am able to do
until i have that piece of paper in hand (personally i think the paper
is the degree, not an assignment).  ug (and grad) are wonderful
experiences, but it is a time when your life is not completely your
own, more so with grad school.  and a few professors really make one
feel "prostrate," but those same people many times don't have a clue to
what it means to have a life outside of academia.  in my experience
there is a strong correlation between these happenings.  mind you
correlation does not imply causation, however, its interesting.

is there a need for that prostrate feeling? *shrug* couldn't tell you.
i'm really not in a position to judge fairly as i start my 7th year of
grad school.  but i have really come to resent the prostrate feeling.
will i be a better astrophysicist/astronomer in 10 months?  probably,
but what did the brow beating have to do with it? working at your
limit for 1/7 of a piece of paper a year gets to you after a while.

even so, as deb says, its a good experience.  just don't mention it
until next june, ok =)

                                -- chris


        "i rode out of there with no one behind me,
         feels so funny to be free."

                -- amy ray, "reunion"
                   and the part of the dedication on my dissertation

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subject:      re: ctf--sotw

deb wrote:
>
> on mon, 26 aug 1996, mary kushman wrote:
>
> > anyway, the line in ctf which has the most meaning for me (and i am sure
> > that scads of us can relate to this) is "i've spent four years prostrate
> > to the higher mind, got my paper and i was free."  i've only spent two
> > so far, but i'm getting there.....
>
> as someone who worked hard to be able to pay for those 4 years (and later, a
> graduate degree), i've always hated those lines, and the emphasis emily places
> on them in concert.

really??  i've always had a lot of fun with them *because* of spending so long
in school. especially at newport, where i'm usually with friends from grad
school and, now that we're all in different places, other people who all have
relatively recently finished our dissertations - even though it was considerably
more than four years, we've always whooped it up a lot for that line!

- elizabeth :)

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subject:      bumbershoot

okay,  this is going to be the last official post about bumbershoot.  i
want everyone to get it who is traveling and stuff before they leave.  here
are the plans.  i hope everyone is okay with them.  being your
self-appointed coordinator has been fun,  i love you all, and hope to meet
everyone of you!
saturday:  i am getting to bumbershoot around 8:30 or 9 am.  i am going
directly to kenwood stadium.  because of the other shows there,  i am not
sure when we will be let in, or how the line is going to be for the indigo
girls.  i am going to attempt to go in, and just hang out there all day,
i'll watch the earlier shows, and try to get the best seats possible.
everyone is welcome to join me whenever they want to throughout the day.  i
figure we can save seats, but i think it would be nice etiquette-wis to
have about one person for every three to four seats saved.  hopefully
everyone will be able to get a big place together, but i just don't know.
these festivals are kind of random.  if there is a line,   i plan on being
in it, as close to the front as possible. you are all welcome to join me
there too. but again, to not piss other people off, i think there should be
one  person for every three or four coming back.  i hope this is okay! the
line-shifting thing just got to complicated, and i don't want to piss off
people.
after the show, for anyone who wants to, we are going to meet at the space
needle.  at the base of the space needle, there is a visitor center.  there
are a couple of doors.  we will meet somewhere near there.  hopefully it
will be obvious who we are.  i will bring a little sign or something with
indigo-girls@netspace.org on it.  i figure that we give everyone about a
1/2 an hour to make it there, then we are heading to the rosebud cafe,
somewhere on pike.  (ruth should be posting directions to it soon) (and
gwen has a few ideas for a back-up plan)  the cafe is open until 3am, and
minors are allowed.

how does this all sound?  i hope it is okay.  oh, and here is my
description, so you all can look for me in line.  i am 22, female, white, i
have brownish-blond hair that is cute about ear-length and is a little
shorter in the back.  i will probably be wearing  cut-offs, black t's yucky
weather, i will be wearing a bright red pull-over windbreaker type raincoat
thingy.  (hard to miss)   ankle, of little dancing keith harring people (i
got it before they put them on the mini-van commercials, call me bitter) i
am painting my toenails and fingernails indigo with indigo glitter just for
the occasion.  also, i will be caring a backpack that is made out of denim
and green velvet with a purple pocket on the front, and a big yellow flap
for the cover (i made it too)  hopefully you will all be able to spot me in
the crowd, and of course, when amy pulls me up on stage to take me back to
atlanta with her:) (i may change my mind and wear a purple batik tank-top)
so look for my accessories rather than my clothes.
okay!  i think this is it.  i would love it if everyone who is planning on
meeting after the concert would let me know by thursday afternoon.  that is
most likely the last time i will check my email before this weekend.
yay!  only 4 more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love sundara
p.s.  if you all don't hear from me for a while after the weekend, it's
cause amy took me with her back to atlanta and i don't have access to
email, but i promise to report back as soon as possible.  (i'll convince
her to come live in folk world)  hee hee.... (i know binky,  i need to get
out more:)

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subject:      one more little bumbershoot thing...

okay, my self-description got a little whacked, i don't know what happened,
i have a tattoo around my left ankle and i will probably be wearing a
black tank top, or a bright red pullover raincoat if bad weather.  love
sundara

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      irc channel?

can someone tell me what the irc channel is for the girls chat group?

beware, i'm coming soon to a channel near you....varmiting all the way! :-)

susan
p.s. sue, i can hear you softly chanting "nerds, nerds, nerds" just like in the
movie :)
p.s.s. don't anyone please take offense at that, it's an inside joke

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subject:      nigc  re:  women's equity day

maybe  i am just feeling edgy because in 2 days i have evacated from my
office 3 times and have had 1 fire from this stupid transformer problem,
but i must confess that i am kind of agitated reading posts about "if
august 26 is women's equity day, then that means the rest of the year means
women's discrimination day.

basic facts of society right now:
women get paid less than men for doing the same job.
women are discriminated against in economic, social and political ways everyday.women have a hard time getting jobs because potential employers are afraid
she will get married and have kids and quit.
women get called on less frequently in classrooms. (girls i should say).

yes, sexism exists.  as a woman i am not happy about this.  as a human being
i am not happy about this.

when the president proclaims a day in recogination of something, it is a
symbolic act.  it is not a celebration for one day and hate and discrimination
the next 364 days...  by proclaiming "women's equity day" the president is
adressing the sexism that exists in today's society and symbolicly removing
it.  (we will leave all the political considerations and the fact that there
is an election in november out of it).

yes, in a perfect world sexism would not exist.  we would not be destroying
our enviroment either.  however, these things exist in us society today.
by declaring proclamations, one draws attention to the issue at hand and
, at times, alludes to what could be or what needs to be commemorated.

when back on may 25, 1991 i, as the very temporary mayor of my town declared
that day to be berkeley heights vietnam veterns memorial day i was not
celebrating a war or advocating the dececration of the graves of these men
on the days that they weren't being recognized.  instead i was symbolicly
honoring and remembering them.

when a state or a city or a college holds a "coming out day" it is symbolic.
it is not saying that gays and lesbians should run to the closets the other
364 days a year.  it is instead a way to draw attention to gay and lesbian
concerns and to show support and friendship for and within the gay community.
perhaps here there is even celebration.

the point is, as a feminist i do not look at the fact that the president
declared a specific day for women's equality as a slap in the face.  instead
i embrace his actions as a way to make women's issues a more prominent
concern in society.  use the symbolism favorably.  work for change of the
status quo with opportunites and not against them.  the fact that the president
declared this day means it gets press coverage.  use this coverage to show
great things women are doing and the problems and discrimations women's face
now that it is on the proverbial agenda, so to speak.

sorry to rave on like a lunatic.  i do not mean to flame or harm.  i just think
we all (yes this includes me) have a tendency to look on the down side of thingswhen it comes to politics, and the problems facing society. we shouldn't do
this.  in a desparate attempt to not sound like a jerk or a lecturer i try
to find an ig quotation to help.  the best thing i can come up with is
lines (are lines, sorry) from "hammer and a nail".  you all know the song.
gotta tend the earth if you want a rose...

well i feel better! :-)

cynthia
the budding political scientist (seriously!  that is my goal in life!)

p.s.  feel better corinne in utah who is ill!

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subject:      if you can't go see ig...

...hearing someone cover their songs is *almost* as good.

friday night, after seeing "a very brady sequel," i decided i needed a pint
of chili pepper ale and some good music. my trusty sidekick and i went to
one of the local brewpubs (really a tourist trap where folks pay $18 for
some salmon on a bed of angel hair pasta. i wouldn't be surprised if capers
were extra) where the beer is decent and the music promised to be good.

the performer was a woman named diane (dianne?) hall whom i'd heard at other
bars around town. a woman and her acoustic guitar. she always has some ig
stuff in her set. sure enough, she played three ig songs in her first set,
"strange fire," "three hits," and watershed. she also threw in some dar
williams ("as cool as i am") and some mle. but the best part was after sf
(the first ig tune she played). she said something like, "that song was
written by my hero, amy ray."  needless to say, i cheered quite loudly :)

so i guess that's about as close as i'll get to an ig show this year...

-bon

btw, don't order apple pie a la mode after drinking chili beer. i went to
bed with quite a stomach ache!

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subject:      bye for now and one more lime (vligc)

this is just a little note to kill many birds (proverbial, of course--
don't call me an animal-hater =) with one stone and let everyone
with whom i am trading, corresponding, or having cybersex (just
_kidding_ about that last one! ;) know that i'll be without e-mail
from wednesday morning until monday...so if we need to clear
up anything, e-mail me before tomorrow!

okay, on to mr. limes xvi... i seem to have a problem with
"strange fire", because i just remembered some more lyrics
from that song that i used to mishear: "with hearty eyes and
lying tongues..." and "to melt the wax enmassed" (yes, i know
that it isn't a word).  and i can't believe that i had forgotten my
all-time favorite misheard line until now...maybe because it was
so stupid. ;) well, here goes: "we don't just make peace signs
and levitate" instead of "...and meditate" from "up in smoke".
am i allowed to blame it on the poor quality of the boot? =)

peace, love, and still looking for a refuge from the raft,
ponygirl

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subject:      in defense of auctions....

--- you wrote:
on tue, 27 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> once again i am offering an autographed item for sale...

> this particular poster is from the show on tuesday may 4, 1993 at the
> tupperware convention center in kissimee, fl.  i had access to backstage and
> was able to catch-up with both of the girls, and they signed it.

and deb replied:

and i'm sure they'd be thrilled to know that you are now auctioning it off on
the list.  that's the kind of thing that makes performers stop letting fans
backstage, and signing autographs, and i can't say that i blame them.
--- end of quoted material ---

hey, we don't know what (if any) dire straits mary might be in, so lets give
her a break, huh? maybe she is struggling huge financially...we've all been
there...i don't have very much that's valuable, but i do have a few ig things
which might be my next meal someday. misfortune happens to all of us. let's not
jump to conclusions, huh?

peace-
susan

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subject:      folk world, dar, etc

this will be my last post for a little while. i'm moving to st. louis this
weekend, and unsub-ing today. but in the meantime your fearless but benevolent
folk world rulers will be busy preparing folk world.

in answer to some of the comments so far on folk world...

gwen:
*wants it to be in seattle/ olympic penninsula.
you're not getting this. folk world isn't in seattle. it's in folk world!
(there are too many non-folk world people in seattle.) it can be _like_
seattle. for instance, mountains. lots of mountains (i like mountains.) and
lots of really really nice old-growth forest. but hey, let's have some
desiduous (sp?) trees too, and we could cut back a _bit_ on the rain. and
you're forgetting one of our rules: 70-75 year round.

*wants weekly community jam sessions.
there can be _daily_ sessions if ya want. music would be ubiquitous. we'll be
up to our eyeballs in fantastic musicians. if ya don't want to sit and listen
to whoever is currently playing, you can go off and jam with someone else who
isn't on stage at the time.

*someone else (forget who) also mentioned open mike.
good idea. however often seems appropriate. we're always willing to discover
new talent. also, if you want to take lessons with emily, or play your latest
song in front of amy, well, they'll be there. just go up and ask. :)

*designated pda area.
hmmm, we'll have to think about this. i'm debating whether we should designate
a pda area, or whether we should just make it that no one will be offended by
pda's (within reason) or nudity. after all, it's folk world. :)

*bicycle paths.
oh definitely, and riding and walking paths as well.

*near beach.
yeah, i like that.

*community homebrew.
i'm liking this more and more.

*all animals our mascots.
absolutely. animals have a special place in folk world. people who kick
puppies or hate cats are out!

*ben and jerry's ice cream flavor.
i think _all_ the ice cream flavors will be named after someone or something
relating to folk world

indigopony:
*wants to bring horses and give lessons.
absolutely!! i'll help. :)

*music workshops.
sure, but as i said, emily will be there any time you want to talk to her. :)

michael:
*morning concerts of hole, foo fighters, pearl jam, etc...
ummmm, well, maybe you should do that _way_ over _there_ ------>

sundara:
*wants to have amy's baby in folk world.
well, far be it from me to dictate what other people want to do in their
personal lives *blush* my guess is that you'd want to be suggesting this to
_amy_, not me. :)

alec:
*wants a music room full of all martins among other instruments.
first of all, since we'll be up to our eyeballs in musicians, we'll also be up
to our eyeballs in musical instruments, so we don't need a single room for
them. also, everything's free, so we don't even need a shop for them. they're
just there. and finally: hey! i have a pretty damn nice larrivee!!

katy:
*wants mcc to be there.
absolutely!!

*and wants to have amy's second baby.
i'll refer you to sundara's comment. :)

ok, that's it for now. hope y'all like folk world. bring your friends, bring
your guitars, bring your houses, bring your pets. leave behind your nasty
ex's, your boss's, and the next door neighbors who play ac/dc at four in the
morning.

oh, and one final comment before i sign off. sherlyn, yen and i went to the
philadelphia folk fest on sunday. we saw dar williams. :) :) the sound system
was a bit off, and she only got to play 5 songs. (cool as i am, when i was a
boy, ....crisis of a coed, end of the summer, and another i'm forgetting but
it wasn't iowa. :(
afterwards we were able to get backstage because some unbelievably cool
security guard let us back when he found out sherlyn was here all the way from
australia. (the security guard is most _definitely_ invited to folk world.) we
met dar, and got to talk to her for 5 min or so. we got our picture taken with
her, and she was really really really sweet to us. she even told me i looked
familiar (i've seen her something like 5 times now). woo hoo! well, when she
told me that i pretty much made a babbling idiot of myself, so now i'm pretty
sure she'll run away the next time she sees me. :) oh well. anyway, she knew
who sherlyn was from an internet interactive thing she did once, and sherlyn
got to shake the hand of the great dar, and it was all around a really really
really cool time. yay us. :)

bye for now...
folkisgruven,
lorindigo

driving...


lorinda wright            "...and we walk in the world of safe people
lw01@lehigh.edu            and at night we walk into our houses and burn."
lehigh university                                - dar williams
bethlehem, pa

                  i will not be complacent

"jump, jangle, jiggle and rock. fly through the sky. sail across the top.
spin out, give out, give in. you're alive!"  -melissa ferrick

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subject:      re: lone coyote

i believe that amy's said before that she has some sort of a phobia about
california or la, and earthquakes? "splitting earth, echoing in my ears..."
or maybe it was emily, or maybe i'm talking out of my butt...?


                 ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: watershef pt.2

at 11:59 pm 8/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
>ok..moving alomg in the tape..amy's talking about how they had learned to
>play junkies lament for the pta that emily couldn't show up for..then
>they cut to a concert shot and em is reaching down to get some carnations
>from the audience..she gives one  to amy who puts it in her mouth..em
>says something and they all laugh..what are they saying there//never
>could figure it out???
>anyone??

here's what i think happened, but i'm not positive. (this conclusion was
come to after watching the carnation clip numerous times though!) some
audience member threw 2 carnation up onstage and emily picked them up. amy
reached out and emily gave her one, then emily said something along the
lines of: "maybe they were both for me and here you are reaching your greedy
little hand out!" then they were wrapping them around the microphone stands
and amy put hers in her mouth and then says "teach me, oh goddess of wit."
or was it emily who said that? oh well, that's what i've decided happened,
but who knows.

                          ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: star trek / stephen king (igc honest !!)

in a message dated 96-08-27 13:30:51 edt, cmbecker@space.mit.edu (christopher
m. becker) writes:

<<
a&e is probably "arts and entertainment," and american
cable/production company, but it is really cute =)
  >>


:) lisa and i were actually remarking on the fact that every time we have the
a&e channel on it makes us think about well, a&e automatically. :)


rick

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subject:      girls in the ne?

i will be in portland maine the first week of september...does anyone know if
the ig's will be in that part of the country then?  any info. is appreciated.


michelle

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subject:      nigc--geography

hi y'all!
this is karey, aka karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>.  i've changed
addresses once again, because my family's house is cursed with bad computer
luck.
do any of you lovely folk live in the dc area?  i'm here for a while and my
sister and brother are going back to school next week, so i'll have some time
i want to fill.  also, are there any listies at or around bryn mawr?  i'm
planning to visit a friend there the weekend of sept. 6-8th.

for folk world, i suggest having satellites of living areas for our families,
because sometimes you don't wanna be too close, but wanna be close enough to
go home for dinner and laundry sometimes.  oh and, i fully concur and yell
and shout hooray and aye and all that good stuff for having it on the olympic
peninsula.  we'll have lotsa hikes and camping trips!

love,
karey

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subject:      more watershed ?s

i have a few watershed questions too. first, what's up with emily's hair
when she died & straightened it!? when was that, who did it? does anybody
know? also, what's happening when amy's getting her hair soaped up and some
woman says something to her and then giggles? also, does anyone know the
exact quote of emily's when, awwww, she broke her lipstick? it's something
along the lines of, "mashed up and messed up just like everything else." and
(final one, i promise) what was the context of emily's "i aim to please the
girlies"?

pondering...~abigail
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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reply-to:     howard barlow/ssi1 <howard_barlow/ssi1.ssi1@notes-gw.tus.ssi1.com>
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subject:      santa fe was great!!!

hi everybody...
i was able to catch the santa fe show and it was really
a great time.  i met a few people from the list, hi sunny,
donna and all.  i got to the venue about 12:30 and set
up a place in line.  then the rain came.  it decided to pour.
pretty soon, we were standing in a river and decided to
scrambled for cover.  it soon cleared up and got nice
again.  as we lined up to get into the venue, the security
people made us line up with the guys on the right and the
women on the left.  needless to say, this gave us guys a
huge advantage.  an unfair advantage, i'll agree.  we were
pretty disliked there for a while.  i really don't know what the
reason for separate lines was, as far as i could tell, they
weren't even frisking people.  i got a great seat in the
second row.

the nice weather lasted until the girls came on and then
more rain and lightning.  it made everything very dramatic.
during don't give that girl a gun, the power failed and the
amps went silent.  jerry started playing the drums louder.
amy start really wailing hard on her acoustic guitar.  this
continued for a bit until the power came back on.   at one
point, the lightning got really bad and they had to turn off
the sound system for about 15 minutes.  the girls were
pretty brave to stay on stage as long as they did.  they
were all wearing shoes with rubber soles, which they
showed us, but you really wonder how safe it is to be
anywhere near all the metal instruments and microphones.
fortunately, no one was electrocuted or struck by lightning.

i think the weather played a big part in their performance.
they had to abandon the set list and gave us one hell of a
show.  they played every new song i have heard to date plus
a couple that i haven't heard.  on one of the new song, they
told us that they hadn't quite worked everything out yet.  it
was possibly the first time they played it live.  it was a great
jamming song and they played it right after shame on you.  i
can't remember the lyrics, sorry.  they did a great jam on
shame on you too.  i think they played about 10 new songs
(wow).  did anyone get a set list.  they played a lot of old
songs too.   i guess they were making it up to us for standing
in the rain and lightning.   it was certainly well worth it.

take care y'all,
- - howdy...

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subject:      re: watershed

you can get it at any music store that sells videos.  i've also seen it for
rent at video stores.

- jen hall
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from smurphy@ups.edu, on 8/27/96 11:54 am:
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okay, i am now sufficiently jealous. i have been wondering this for a
while, but have been too lazy to ask.  where can i get the watershed video?
thanks:)  love sundara

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subject:      reunion cd single

hi

i was wondering if anyone out there had a copy of the reunion cd single (it
has the album version and was released as a promo for 'swamp ophelia') that
they might be interested in trading for some live tapes.  i have a pretty
comprehensive list, let me know if you might be interested in trading and i
will send it to you.

two other things that have been on my wish list for a long time:  a copy of
the promo photo that was released by epic that shows amy and emily walking
away from the camera and down a dirt road with their guitars, and the vinyl
45 with 'land of canaan'/'never stop' that was commercially released in
1989.  if you have either and are interested in trading let me know.

thanks for your help

best wishes -

carolyn

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subject:      re: irc channel?
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in-reply-to:  <31996936@dancer.dartmouth.edu>; from "susan b. marine" at aug
              27, 96 4:02 pm

>
> can someone tell me what the irc channel is for the girls chat group?
>
> beware, i'm coming soon to a channel near you....varmiting all the way! :-)
>
there are two different groups of ig-irc people:
#indigo-girls, on dalnet (try /server irc.dal.net, a list of others can be
found at http://www.equineart.com/monkees/servers.html) is usually crowded
and rather vapid, imowo.
#indigo-girls on efnet (there are many servers, try irc.phoenix.net or check
out the list at ftp://cs-ftp.bu.edu/irc/support/servers.950301) is smaller
and, again imowo, cozier.
kirsten


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you have to laugh at yourself, 'cause you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't.
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subject:      nigc: green eggs and hamlet (**1/2) (fwd)

here's a forward from jessi that i thought y'all would appreciate, a few
weeks after the ophelia discussion...

*************************************************************************
"ha ha, and ho ho, and hee hee" --"the chink", even cowgirls get the blues
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

>
>(forwards removed)
>
>green eggs & hamlet
>
> i ask to be, or not to be.
> that is the question, i ask of me.
> this sullied life, it makes me shudder.
> my uncle's boffing dear, sweet mother.
> would i, could i take my life?
> could i, should i, end this strife?
> should i jump out of a plane?
> or throw myself before a train?
> should i from a cliff just leap?
> could i put myself to sleep?
> shoot myself, or take some poison?
> maybe try self immoloition?
> to shudder off this mortal coil,
> i could stab myself with a fencing foil.
> slash my wrists while in the bath?
> would it end my angst and wrath?
> to sleep, to dream, now there's the rub.
> i could drop a toaster in my tub.
> would all be glad, if i were dead?
> could i perhaps kill them instead?
> this line of thought takes consideration -
> for i'm the king of procrastination.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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on tue, 27 aug 1996, lorinda wright wrote:

> this will be my last post for a little while. i'm moving to st. louis this
> weekend, and unsub-ing today. but in the meantime your fearless but benevolent
> folk world rulers will be busy preparing folk world.
>
is folk world an entire planet?  cause if it's on earth it's gotta be here
(but somewhere not in the city--we could take over richmond beach, or
edmonds...)
> *wants it to be in seattle/ olympic penninsula.
> you're not getting this. folk world isn't in seattle. it's in folk world!
> (there are too many non-folk world people in seattle.) it can be _like_
> seattle. for instance, mountains. lots of mountains (i like mountains.) and
> lots of really really nice old-growth forest. but hey, let's have some
> desiduous (sp?) trees too, and we could cut back a _bit_ on the rain. and
> you're forgetting one of our rules: 70-75 year round.

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x-to:         "kim: goddess of stuff" <rcn@prcn.org>

well...  that's the way things tend to go with things like that...  it's
murphy's law...  i'm refering to the part in kim's message when she said
something about i can't believe amy didn't think......  sorry about not
quoting the message, but i hate dealing with it... never mind that
though...  i didn't realize how well the lyrics fit into that whole college
(or high school) thing in ctf...  jeez... makes me feel kinda stupid...
like all those other songs that are so obvious... like whippin post by the
allman bro's... i'm sure the first time y'all heard that you knew it was
about a guy bein whipped by a woman on some post somewhere, right?  never
mind, i'm blabbering at this point... disregard that man behind the
email...

alec

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date:         tue, 27 aug 1996 17:14:01 -0700
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subject:      goodbye for now

hey all...
things have made it neccisary for me to leave the list, so
i just wanted to tap a farewell to you all.
it's been a fun + interesting ride for the last half year.
i've met + made some really good friends on this list + have
loved being a part of it.
ah... time + unforseen occurences:-)
perhaps i'll be back in a few months or so. i'll miss your
posts + the smiles etc. you've all given me.
peace + prolific posting, all... kim:-)
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"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
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date:         tue, 27 aug 1996 16:20:26 -0700
reply-to:     smurphy@ups.edu
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subject:      more folk world

okay,  i really think folk world should be in washington.  see, out in
sequim, pronounced squim for all of you except indigopony and a few others
who know these things, it never rains!  i swear.  we have the rainshadow
effect, so it never rains!  we get as much rainfall as la.  and it's in
washington, right next to the water, right next to the mts.  think about
it, we could take field trips up to the mountains, and listen to our
favorite muscians play while we watch the sunset over the ocean.  now what
could be better than that? also, i'll mention it again, cause it's one of
my favorite things, we have a big trampoline at my house in sequim.  my mom
would just love everyone from folk world to come visit.  or even better,
maybe we could get lots of big trampolines for folk world!  love sundara

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subject:      women's equality day

well, since it was me who made the little joke about the rest of the year
being discrimination for women,  i thought i would respond to cynthia.  i
agree with everything you say.  i know it's important that we do have days
like women's equality day to bring attention to women's issues and
discrimination.  i cringe everytime i hear someone talking about how
feminism is not something women and men need to be because women and men
are equal now.  we know that's not true.  i made that little joke cause
a) it makes me laugh, and to quote emily,  "you have to laugh at yourself,
or you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't"  and b)this morning, for the
second time in two days i got whistled at by some moron guy driving by
while i waited to cross the street.  i hate that.  i am sick of being
objectified everytime i want to wear a dress or something slightly
revealing because it's hot out and i like the feeling of the sun on
my shoulders.   so probably next year, when aug 26 rolls around, i will
celebrate women's equality day.  i like to do anything that celebrates and
empowers women. i plan to do my part to fight sexism, racism, homophobia, and
all the other isms and phobias, by going to grad school next year to get a
master's, and then a ph.d in women's studies, then teach women's studies at
the college level.  that's my goal.  and cynthia, i hope someday you become
president and declare everyday women's equality day:) love sundara

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from:         atlmouse@aol.com
subject:      it's getting hot in here!!!!!

i recently posted about an item that i have for sale.
thanks to
deb (indigo@clark.net)   and
carolyn (underdog@onramp.net)
for your lovely flames regarding auctions and "exploitation"  (quote from
carolyn).
i'm sure that if either indigo girl knew of my financial state, they'd be
happy to help out anyway they could.  as are many of the rest of the listers.
a true thank you to
susan (susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu)
joe (fhamito@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu)
melissa (hdtx97a@prodigy.com)
and
amber (abatson@aol.com)
for your support and offers!
~~robin

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 09:51:33 +1000
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subject:      returne l'moi
x-cc:         lw01@lehigh.edu

[warning in advance - this is going to be long.  but since folks
don't seem to care so much about length anymore, i'm sending it
all at once anyhow.]

hey y'all,

yes, it's me (if you don't know who i am, that's your loss ;) -
your roving australian reporter, coming at you from phoenix, az
(where it's *really hot*!).  obviously, i'm not back home just
yet, but i will be in just about a week or so.  i wanted to say
hi, thanks and send hugs to everyone that i've met, travelled
or stayed with while i've been travelling around.  you're all
great!  but then, you knew that already. :)

so anyway, last night's concert in mesa was great.  i went with
3 folks who hadn't seen the girls before - needless to say, we
all had a fantastic time. :)  they were all impressed with how
intense amy is too... actually, there were a couple of moments
that just cracked me up - one when amy (who's obviously getting
more confident about singing in the high registers) started
singing the na-na's during the 2nd verse of 'least complicated';
and also when she actually managed to turn around and face the
crowd during her solo on 'shame on you' - and a great job she
did there too - it was funny. :)  the crowd last night was okay -
we were sitting about 2/3 of the way back (after roselands, i
don't ever want to be standing during a general admission show
again) - they weren't too enthusiastic up there but it was
still fun.  oh, and emily's new song is fnarkin' fantastic!
gorgeous, gorgeous stuff.

a brief rundown on some of the other musical highlights of the
trip:
- newport was great - lovely to meet you all. :)
- falcon ridge folk festival was wonderfully, um, muddy; and a
        great time too...
- hampton beach was probably my favourite of the 4 (plus newport)
        shows i've seen on this ig tour.  maybe i'm a snob, but i
        just don't like to have drunken women talking loudly and
        shoving against me during a concert, as happened in nyc...
        the philly show was great too though.
- susan werner hugged me!  (she's also fantastic in concert, so
        keep an eye out for her if she's in your area - especially
        you, yen *smirk*.)
- lorinda, yen and i got taken backstage to meet (and thoroughly
        embarass ourselves in front of :) dar williams at the
        philadelphia folk festival (yay, security man, yay!) -
        no comment about the festival itself though...
- cheryl wheeler's dancing bosoms (maybe you had to be there :)

i'll stop there; there're lots more highlights but that's enough
for now.  and of course, it was way cool meeting everyone that
i met.  y'all, just, like, majorly *go*, man. :)

let's see, what else - oh yes, folk world.  please remember that
as leaders of folk world, lorinda and i get final say on everything.
but we're benevolent (thank you karen, you're definitely in :), as
well as being two of the coolest people you're ever likely to meet
(*snark*), so that's okay. :)

a couple of new quasi-rules i just thought up:
* there'll be no "me too!" emails, ever;
* we haven't settled on a final location yet but i'm thinking it
might be nice to discover a new island or small planet with the
perfect climate that we can claim for our own;
* nobody has to have anybody else's baby unless *both* parties
consent and actually want the child.
* horses are good.
* open mike goes without saying; in fact, in folk world anybody
who wants to gets to perform anytime they want to, to any audience
they want to;
* the outside world won't be a problem - they can all go live in
grunge world, or opera world, or square dancing world instead. :)

okay, i think i've rambled way more than enough.  once again,
it's been nice meeting all you folks!  thank you to everyone who
extended their hospitality to me in any way - you're what made
this trip so great.  mail me, y'all. :)

sittin' next to the person driving,
sherlyn(digo), australian at large
sherlyn@fl.net.au
new indigo girls fan survey coming soon.

ps - "irrepressible"??  what *i* want to know is, who tried to
repress me, and why didn't i know about it at the time? :)
pps - l- yay us, we're so cool.

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subject:      mesa ig adventure

since i think i'm the only one on the list who saw the final mesa concert
i'll tell ya'll about it. amy wrote a happy song! i thought "shame on
you" was gonna be a really powerful and soul searching song but it's just
really cool and laid back. other highlights include "bring out the map",
"cara mia" and "blood quantum". but the best song by far that night was
"chickenman". can i say emotional orgasm.
   anyway, although i did like a few of emily's songs she really
dissapointed me with her new stuff. it all sounds the same. granted, her
voice is in wonderful shape but the songs get so tiresome. i love emily and
i'm sure i'll get some nasty posts back but it has to be said. oh, and
emily, by the way, who said you could play the piano?*cringes* but she is
still a really cool person and she is still a goddess but it's time to
musically progress.
    luckily i got up to the very front and got to see the girls up close.
i was so excited and i couldn't stop smiling. emily kept on looking at me
because i had this huge grin plastered across my face for the whole
concert. then i asked the person next to me if i was making a fool of
myself. she said that em was just probably happy to see i was having a
good time. anyway, halfway through the show i realized i'll probably never
be this close to the girls ever again. so i decided to yell out "can i
come up and sing with you". i mean i am a voice major and i wouldn't have
made that much of an ass of myself. alas she responded "you never know".
a very cool statement to a very random and freaky question.
ok that's it.
ben

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reply-to:     problem child <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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subject:      people magazine article...

does anyone know what date or volume that article is in?  i'd really like
to get my hands on it...  since i do work in a library and one of the
back issues just happens to be missing they'll never mind.... (wink.)
thanks, mandy

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reply-to:     amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
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from:         amy snyder <ajsnyder@mtu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc:new e-mail address

hi y'all,
  just wanted to let people know that i have a new e-mail address.  it's indiamy
@aol.com.  if anyone needs to get in touch with me for anything please use the
new address and not ajsnyder@mtu.edu.
  things are coming along for the soc tapes.  i should be setting up a tape tree
in the next few weeks.  take it easy.

peace,
amy

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subject:      re: make it easier
x-to:         virginia wolffe <vrgniawolf@gnn.com>
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on mon, 26 aug 1996, virginia wolffe wrote:

> why have i never heard this song in concert?? i wasn't "introduced"
> to the girls until after the second album... i have seen them
> numerous times, but have never heard that song! anyone have a live
> version of it?? they rock on that one! it is definately in my top 3
> favorites!!  btw...love this forum!  hi ya'll.....glad to know ya!
>
yes, i love this song too!  has to be one of my favorite emily tunes.
many times i'll set my cd player to repete just this one track and i
never tire of it.  if anyone has a live copy of it... we need to talk
about a trade.

obmst3k: is it just me or does it sound like she sings "... give me more
    than just a sampo?" :)
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subject:      re: another item for sale...

atlmouse@aol.com wrote:
>
> hello again!
> once again i am offering an autographed item for sale...
> this time it is a concert advertisment poster fro the rop tour.  it is indigo
> blue with a picture of two women dressed in old-fashioned clothing (i'm
> pretty sure it's not a & e, but if it is, they look totally different!).
> this particular poster is from the show on tuesday may 4, 1993 at the
> tupperware convention center in kissimee, fl.  i had access to backstage and
> was able to catch-up with both of the girls, and they signed it.
> again, make an offer... highest offer by friday gets it!!
> thanks!
> ~~robin

it's kind of sad that you have to sell such a priceless item.....
maybe that kind of stuff should be like boots...share them not sell them.  i
guess i think of how a&e would feel and i doubt they'd appreciate it.

~just a thought......

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subject:      more fodder and a question

hey!

i listened to the 5/4 new orleans boot today, and whoever said that amy said
'fodder for the song' is very much correct.  before 'this train', amy is
explaining that they have taken some time off.  emily says that in that time
they have been doing things like planting tomatoes.  amy immediately says
'(and?) fodder for the song'.

is she saying that during the break the fodder was planted for the new
songs??  curious, eh?  :-)

i also wanted to ask a question:

does anyone know what the hell 'blood quantum' refers to??  i looked
'quantum' up in the dictionary, and it pretty much means 'quantity or
amount'.  so what is the 'blood quantum line'?  is amy trying to get at the
idea of measuring the content of blood?  just curious.

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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subject:      re: fodder for the song ??

at 02:10 pm 8/26/96 edt, denise wrote:
>looking for this recording but can't seem to find it on the set lists
>for any of the ejs records.  if anyone knows where i can find it,
>please let me know.  thanks,

this would be on the incredible "reluctantly we" cd.  i highly recommend
it's purchase.  if you like harder, electric stuff with great lyrics, this
is for you.  and if you want to hear amy go sick long before tmf and
chickenman, you definitely gotta hear "god in heaven"!

btw, if virginia woolf were really writing to the list, i am guessing she
would spell her own name correctly.  :-)

whatever,

:dwayne

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but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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x-to:         sstetler@jeffco.k12.co.us

welcome to the list of people who've flamed me today!!!!
have you also flamed perry at rainy day records for selling autographs?
why don't you give him a call...
~~robin

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date:         tue, 27 aug 1996 23:35:14 gmt
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from:         patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
subject:      wild horses (revised)

here are a few revisions to heidi's post from the rolling stones lyric book:

the first line is:
childhood living is easy to do

and the last verse starts out:
i know i've dreamed you a sin and a lie
i have my freedom but i don't have much time

don't ya love ig doing this song.  maybe michelle and amy will sing it on
"map".  i can't wait!!!

rob

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from:         patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
subject:      make it easier

i have this one live on the chapel hill boot from 1987.  those of you
interested in trading, mail me!!  i loooove to trade.  speaking of which,
sarah, please mail me!!!!

have an indigo day!!

rob

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