lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-08e


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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 01:14:00 -0500
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      re: another item for sale...

stetler wrote...

>>>it's kind of sad that you have to sell such a priceless item.....
maybe that kind of stuff should be like boots...share them not sell
them.  i guess i think of how a&e would feel and i doubt they'd
appreciate it.>>>>

hey everyone....

not that i know how a&e would think, but this is my guess.   if robin
needs to cash, she needs the cash. it's not like she's "ripping off
the free world."

i just hope that she has the opportunity when her financial
situation improves to replace the items she's selling.

melissa

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 01:12:14 -0600
reply-to:     gwen@mo.net
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from:         gwen@mo.net
subject:      shawn mullins(nigc)

i saw shawn mullins play this evening and i have to say, the man is
incredible... he isn't too popular here in st. louis(yet)--i highly recommend
getting ahold of his cd's--his voice is amazing--and all ye folksy ig lovers
would probably think him quite keen...he should move to folk world...if anyone
would be curious about whether or not he's coming to your city, i have a list of
all the dates...he even signed my cd...what a nice guy...anyway, sorry about the
nigc...tricia

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 05:59:54 gmt
reply-to:     ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph>
organization: the e-mail company
subject:      re: ctf

from the east coast rocker - april 26,1989

[emily saliers talks about "closer to fine"]

"my dad is a professor, so i really believe in education," says saliers. "if
you're fortunate enough and  have enough money, higher education is a really
valuable thing. i didn't mean to pick on it." still, it captures an
anti-academic attitude that many students have felt. "when we sing that song
for younger audiences and college students, they scream at the line, 'i got
my paper and i was free.' and that's kind of fun. it's like having a
'rah-rah' song."

(* full transcript is available on the lifeblood website)

considering the thread, i thought people might be interested in this little
tidbit...

:)

anna

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 12:46:03 bst
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      hols/atlanta/speakeasy (sigc)

long time no post, so long post warning!

well, i've just spent a week catching up on my mail having returned from a
wonderful week in ireland.
had a great time - met up with ex-listies mariead and bernie who were really
nice to us - drove us out to the wicklow mountains for a day to see some
breathtaking scenery.  and, don't know if it was coincidence or fate, but we
were staying at this 'wimmin's' b&b, and one of other guests, julie, just
happened to be from .... atlanta, ga!  she's seen the girls around a few
times - vaguely knows them via friends of friends - recall's sharing a
spliff with them and kristen hall years ago, y'know the kind of stuff.
anyway, most of what she told me i won't discuss here 'cos it steps over
that line of privacy which we so like to toe... it was funny tho' - she was
saying stuff like - 'y'know they've just played at our pride celebration..?'
and i was going, 'er yeah - i've got the boot!' :)
she's going to send me a video of a 2hr gig they did in decatur square years
ago.  so, if anyone in the us is able to convert ntsc to pal, then i'd be
interested to hear from you...

on another note...
speakeasy: the live acoustic music club that i run - boy, this has been
keeping me busy!  last month we had to do an emergency relocation a few
hours before event 'cos our regular venue got burgled the night before -
like they didn't think of phoning me first thing in the morning to let me
know, instead of calling at 4.30pm...bah!  luckily, a newish venue saved the
day, the cybar - very stylish internet cafe/bar, and were so nice they
persuaded (read bribed!) us to permanently move there.  evening went really
well - some good friends of mine, the a31 girls - ace vocal harmonies - did
the best cover version of closer to fine i've ever heard.
on one hand it's kind of funny seeing acoustic music in a spaceage sort of
environment, but on the other it seems completely appropriate - i mean, this
list is testimony to the way in which the net and cool music can coexist
happily!  so, i'm going to really make it a feature - watch out for the
speakeasy website sometime soon - lots of pic's, biog's and soundbites of
speakeasy performers...and of course cool links to other pages - if anyone
wants their link included then let me know - it won't be up for a month or
so though.. next speakeasy is on monday 2nd september, if anyone in the
south (uk!) can make it!

and finally...was s'posed to be visiting ny in october to stay with a friend
who has now conveniently decided to move to switzerland :(  so...  thinking
that myself and friend will still come to states, but now vaguely
entertaining the idea of visiting atlanta instead...  wondered if anyone
could recommend this as a plan? is there enough to do in atlanta for a week?
is the writer's night at eddies attic on a sunday an open-mike thing, or do
you have to send a demo and join a waiting list?

or is there another city in the us that would be the best place to visit on
a first trip? any ideas appreciated...

cheers,


**************
seffy
     cod==#
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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 08:02:00 edt
reply-to:     tracy & homeward bounding beasts <clumber9@alliance.net>
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from:         tracy & homeward bounding beasts <clumber9@alliance.net>
subject:      ack!!! sotw, bumbering, song mis-lyrics, and i am so behind

okay - i should change my thingamajig up there to read "and the now home
beasts" but heck - i just got back yesterday from driving across the country
so y'all will forgive me right?? right?  anyone? anyone?  bueller?

        ahem - just now catching up on my ig-l stuff (yes the computer was
all unpacked and booted within about 2 hours of pulling into the driveway)
and i see a couple things i must reply to:

        sotw : yes kirsten!! you are so right!!  i would not have chosen the
same album to begin with,  but hey - the reviver gets the choice, so i'll
play along! sotw !!!!  where are we now?  ctf? someone smack me with what it
is and i'll either wax poetic with incredible insight and intellectually
stimulating thought or i'll make something up last moment...  :-)

        bumbershoot:  ahhh!!!! someone get me up to snuff!!! anyone need a
ride from the souther region of our area? who can help me quickly get set up
to join y'all????  so little time!!!! ahhhhh!!! (can you tell i am a little
panicky after the drive?)

        song mis-lyrics:  okay.. i'll fess up... for quite a long time..
months in fact... i could not figure out in the 1200 version of _tangled up
in blue_ "we split up on a sad, dark night, in a green english vest".  yes..
feel free to laugh heartily at me.... i know now that no vests were
involved.. green or english.  thanks only to the many listers here who
helped me...

and that's it fer now... i will be back to my overly often posting self
soon... am probably getting new ppp provider soon... but i'll let y'all know
in plenty of time so you know exactly where to send your hatemail.  :-)
take care and i am so glad to be back home!!!  pnw rules!!!!  anyone in this
area who wants to stalk me or be stalked by me, just lemmie know and we'll
set something up posthaste.  karey, binky,sooz, gwen - this means you.

tracy (who is so far behind ... good thing i have no immediate plans for a
life....)

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 09:03:52 edt
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      ferron showdates - nigc

hi all!  here is some info from the ferron listserv about her future
showdates:


sept 28  poughkeepsie, ny
oct 4 sugarloaf, ny
oct 5 philadelphia
oct 6 glama awards new york
oct 7 hartford, ct
oct 8    hey, she gets a break
oct 9 boston
oct 10 purchase, ny    (yeah!  i'll be there!)
oct 11 northampton, ma
oct 12 buffalo, ny
oct 13 canton, ny
oct 14 syracuse, ny
oct 15    what?  another break?
oct 16 new york city
oct 19 baltimore
oct 20 washington, dc
oct 24 cabarro, nc
oct 25 atlanta, ga
oct 26 tampa, fl

upcoming dates in the following locations:
charleston, va; charlotte, nc; asheville, nc; miami, fl
and diego, ca; los angeles; santa cruz, ca;  san francisco
portland, or;  seattle, wa


jude :)

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 09:33:14 -0400
reply-to:     "e.b." <gt6702c@prism.gatech.edu>
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from:         "e.b." <gt6702c@prism.gatech.edu>
subject:      re: shawn mullins(nigc)
x-to:         gwen@mo.net
in-reply-to:  <3223f14e.101@mo.net> from "gwen@mo.net" at aug 28, 96 01:12:14 am

>
> i saw shawn mullins play this evening and i have to say, the man is
> incredible... he isn't too popular here in st. louis(yet)--i highly recommend
> getting ahold of his cd's--his voice is amazing--and all ye folksy ig lovers
> would probably think him quite keen...he should move to folk world...if anyone
> would be curious about whether or not he's coming to your city, i have a list of
> all the dates...he even signed my cd...what a nice guy...anyway, sorry about the
> nigc...tricia
i agree. he is absolutely amazing. another great atlanta folk artist. i've
been following him for about 6 months now. if you get a chance go see him.
he's not real big and doesn't have a lot of dates on his tour, but he is
amazing.

eb

--
elizabeth bradbury, ke4iwn  "ah, loves got a hold on me ah, it just won't let
georgia tech                  me be. my brothers and my sisters will we ever
scientific atlanta, rf co-op   see, the truth that's shared in ruth and mary"
gt6702c@prism.gatech.edu                   -"ruth and mary" shawn mullins

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 07:27:15 -0700
reply-to:     michael madin <madin@u.washington.edu>
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from:         michael madin <madin@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: more folk world
x-to:         smurphy@ups.edu
in-reply-to:  <960827162026.2145f@ups.edu>

sundara is right, sequim and the surrounding area is called the banana
belt for good reason. they get about 15 in. a rain a year while the
olympic rainforest 50 miles away gets 15 *feet* a year; both are
great places but wouldn't it also be nice to take over one of the small
san juan islands. we could watch the orcas swim by as we listen to our
favorite music. this whole area has a rich history of alternative
communities trying to make it outside the influence of broader america.
a good book on the subject is utopian communities on puget sound.

my comment a few days ago about folksters turning into angst ridden
northwest grungers after spending time in the grayness of
the region was not meant to put down southern folk singers,
washingtonians or for that matter grunge rockers. i was just pointing
out the irony of the mythic nature of *the northwest* with the actual
genius the region produces. music: hendrix and cobain; cinema: gus
van sant in films like my own private idaho, drug store cowboy; comics:
gary larson and his far side; technology: gates & allen; literature:
raymond carver...  the intellectual and artistic mood seems closer to
that of scandinavia with the likes of ibsen, bergman and kierkagaard
(sp?) than middle america.

i forgot how i was going to tie in ig with this so it'll have to wait.

thanks for reading, mike.


on tue, 27 aug 1996 smurphy@ups.edu wrote:

> okay,  i really think folk world should be in washington.  see, out in
> sequim, pronounced squim for all of you except indigopony and a few others
> who know these things, it never rains!  i swear.  we have the rainshadow
> effect, so it never rains!  we get as much rainfall as la.  and it's in
> washington, right next to the water, right next to the mts.  think about
> it, we could take field trips up to the mountains, and listen to our
> favorite muscians play while we watch the sunset over the ocean.  now what
> could be better than that? also, i'll mention it again, cause it's one of
> my favorite things, we have a big trampoline at my house in sequim.  my mom
> would just love everyone from folk world to come visit.  or even better,
> maybe we could get lots of big trampolines for folk world!  love sundara
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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 10:32:18 -0400
reply-to:     water <water@mindspring.com>
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from:         water <water@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: shawn mullins(nigc)

some shawn info- he's got 3 cd's out-- better days, big blue sky, and eggshells.
each one is softer and folkier than the one before.  better days is
definetly an "acoustic w/ a kinda attitude" album, big blue sky is definetly
a man with his guitar, and tho i've not heard all of eggshells- i hear its
lots of spoken word, and even softer and mellower than big blue sky.  oh
yes, and from meeting him a couple of times in my wanderings at eddie's
attic and rainy day, shawn is a really nice guy too.


"you become what you think" -mahatma gandhi
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it's just a matter of coming together with the right vision."
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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 07:52:44 -0700
reply-to:     jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
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from:         jill frankel <jefrankel@ucdavis.edu>
subject:      re: make it easier live

hi all...i have a show with "make it easier" on it.  it is madison,
7/21/89.  if you're interested, send me an e-mail and we'll talk...jill


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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 11:05:44 est
reply-to:     "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
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from:         "paul j. sgroi" <paul_j._sgroi@ccmail.c-tec.com>
subject:      nigc: ms. clinton!

     just want to say, imho, the first lady did a fine job last night. and
         i just know she and the pres are indigo girls fans!...paul

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 10:30:34 -0700
reply-to:     amy mednick <amy1@alpeng.com>
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from:         amy mednick <amy1@alpeng.com>
organization: alpine engineered products, inc.
subject:      late from newport and hottie's igc

hey all!

first of all, let me be the last to say what a total blast newport was.
i had a little vacation afterwards and have just returned. the memories
are burned fresh in my mind though. first and foremost, there were the
list faces: bert, deb, greg, dwayne...too numerous to mention. you were
all great. did the girls show at the hotel viking bar on sunday nite? i
was burnt to a crisp and too pooped to pop, but i'm dying to hear about
missed escapades. as for the music, it was all unbelievable - enough to
make newport a yearly trek from fort lauderdale for my gf and me.
undoubtedly, the highlight for me was the girls - it was 1 1/2 hours of
pure unadulterated bliss. there are no words big enough to describe the
happiness. oh please send us a new album soon.

and then there was hootie - last night - in west palm beach - singing i
only wanna be with you - and breaking into closer to fine (through "it's
only life after all.") then they started mumbling and trailing off and
went brusqely back into owbwy. now that i was actually present for it, i
have the definite impression that it was not complimentary toward our
beloved girls. this is my opinion only, but it seemed completely
disrespectful/sarcastic/patronizing, etc. i'm not usually sensitive
about such things, but i'm pretty sure they were goofing on the girls.
in short, it sucked. i'd love to know what anybody who's seen this live
thinks. it could just be me, but i don't think so.

amy mednick
amy1@alpeng.com

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 07:53:24 cdt
reply-to:     jennifer hall
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subject:      emily in a wedding dress??

good morning all !

i've been trying to search the people mag web page to get the date of that
issue for mandy, but came up empty handed.  i do have a poorly copied copy
if anyone wants me to fax it to them.

but, anyway, in my attempt in finding that, i found this article from time.
this makes a&e sould like they hate each other.  but read on and see what
you think...

=================
time domestic
may 23, 1994 volume 143, no. 21
return to contents page

arts & media/music

the power of two the members of the duo indigo girls don't
always agree, but as their new album proves, they make beautiful music
together

by christopher john farley

in a film studio in atlanta, amy ray and emily saliers, who make up the
folk-rock duo indigo girls, stand before a row of
skeletons illuminated by flashes of light. the two are shooting a video of
their new song least complicated; in another scene saliers lies on her back
wearing a white wedding dress and clutching a bouquet of red flowers. what
does it all mean?  saliers, who wrote the song, offers a profound
interpretation. "it's about repeating patterns in life," she says, "if you
wanted to get the basic philosophic message. the video is an illustration
of that." ray's response is a bit less deep. "well," she says, "to me it
really doesn't have a meaning."

the exchange is typical of these two partners, who in many ways are
opposites. ray is tough and outspoken and has a
growling, devilish singing voice. saliers is quiet and reflective, and her
vocals are high and angelic. ray says she's influenced by punk bands like
the sex pistols; saliers prefers joni mitchell. the two never write songs
together, and for weeks at a time they drift apart to their separate
circles of friends. but something connects them. the children of
professional parents, both are 30, atlanta natives and graduates of emory
university. they have known each other for 20 years, played together for 12
and put out five studio albums since 1989. ray explains their alchemy in
unromantic terms: "me solo is too much of me," she says. "emily solo is too
much of emily."

the just released cd swamp ophelia is indigo girls' most complex and
satisfying album. they started off performing at
coffeehouses and on street corners, and their early songs were naked and
direct - just the two of them, playing guitar and
singing folk music. swamp ophelia is more ambitious, with waves of
orchestration, african drums, accordions and trumpets;
saliers even plays a long electric-guitar solo. "i think this record is
more polarized than our other records," says ray. "there
are more extremes going on. electric and acoustic. loud sounds and soft
sounds."

some fans might miss the simplicity of the pair's earlier recordings. but
their new, more elaborate songs still have fire, grace
and melodies that leap out at the listener. once again, they sing
beautifully braided harmonies with the occasional hint of
dissonance, and their lyrics as usual have an eloquent, freewheeling
wordiness. "i'm just a mirror of a mirror of myself," saliers declares on
least complicated. on this train revised, ray reshapes the classic song
this train into a forceful,
impressionistic account of her visit to washington's u.s. holocaust
memorial museum: "piss and blood in a railroad car/ 100 people gypsies
queers and david's star."

indigo girls aren't made-for-video babes. they are not about belly buttons
or cleavage or appearing on the late show with
david letterman chewing cigars and spouting four-letter words to get
attention. although their cds have sold consistently
well - their self-titled debut album went platinum - both girls harbor acid
feelings about the image-conscious video age.
"mtv has hurt music in one sense because people now judge a song by more
than just the song," says ray. but, she
concedes, "in the sense of having another art form around - video - mtv is
probably a good thing. if only they would be
more responsible and not just play the same videos over and over again."

later this year, ray and saliers will appear with actress and comic whoopi
goldberg in the movie boys on the side.
goldberg plays a lesbian folk singer who runs into indigo girls in a tucson,
arizona, bar. together, they all sing a few indigo
girls songs along with a cover of lou reed's walk on the wild side. saliers
and ray enjoyed working with goldberg
("technically, her voice is only a little above average," says ray, "but
she's got soul and can really deliver a song"), although they disagree on
whether more films are in their future. says ray: "i don't have the
patience." says saliers: "i plan on writing music for movies."

whatever their differences, saliers and ray succeed in the magical process
of collaboration, and they intend to stay together for a long time to come.
"i can't imagine having separate careers," says saliers. "my greatest fear
is that it'll end." adds ray: "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear
that it'll end." a few hours into the shoot for least complicated, the
girls are standing around in the darkened studio waiting for the next
setup. in the lull, they begin softly to strum their guitars. one tune they
play is mystery, from the new cd. the last words to the song are:

we're standing at opposite poles
equal partners in a mystery

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 16:12:25 bst
reply-to:     rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
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from:         rachel sefton-smith <seffy@epic.co.uk>
subject:      folkworld and star trek

me again,

ok, so how do i get to folkworld?  hmm.... i also od'd on star trek
nostalgia the other night (hi gail!) and it's got me thinking... p'raps what
we should really do is charter the starship indigo, to boldly go where no
fans have gone before, on a continuing mission to spread cool music across
the galaxy.  would solve problem of how to get there and back - we could
just use transporter... beam me up... what do you reckon captain's lorindigo
and sherylndigo??  (and can't you just see amy and emily in snazzy indigo
uniforms!)

live long and prosper,

seffy
\\//

p.s. my favourite misquote:
'but the darker the ages get, there's a stronger bacon yet...' es in
pre-veggie days perhaps?

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 11:46:35 -0400
reply-to:     deb <indigo@clark.net>
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from:         deb <indigo@clark.net>
subject:      re: another item for sale...
in-reply-to:  <960827233729_466902091@emout15.mail.aol.com>

on tue, 27 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> welcome to the list of people who've flamed me today!!!!
> have you also flamed perry at rainy day records for selling autographs?
> why don't you give him a call...

as far as i know, perry doesn't pose as a fan to get autographs, and he sells
them at a reasonable, set price.

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on wed, 28 aug 1996, m gordon wrote:

> not that i know how a&e would think, but this is my guess.   if robin
> needs to cash, she needs the cash.

it's not as though she's in a bind and ended up having to sell stuff she
previously treasured.  she got the autograph specifically to make a killing
here, which is *very* different.

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subject:      language or the kiss

okay, am i crazy or not?  last night i was listening to lotk on my
headphones, and it struck me that maybe this song is about suicide, or at
least has suicidal...undertones?  it definitely doesn't come off as a happy
song...at the beginning it sounds really depressing...confused, waking from
dreams, outside looking in, not laughing anymore.  then "i choose most of
your life goes on without me" could refer to making the choice to die.  all
the fears she's known...i dunno, the whole thing makes me think that.  having
memories of "lying on our backs..." and then being alone again.  "i squeeze
the sky out but there's not a star appears" just sounds depressed.  and i
just noticed this because i was hearing it through my headphones, not on my
stereo...but that whispering!  i got this image of one person standing up and
trying to think clearly and stand strong while there are all these swirling,
barely audible voices whispering at her.  i dunno...i'm not implying for a
minute that em's suicidal, but who hasn't dealt with suicide in some form by
her age?  that's just what i thought...anyone agree?  oh well, maybe i'm not
the best one to ask, i think i'll just go back to bed =)
katy

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              issue

>from:    bonster@alaska.net
>subject: if you can't go see ig...
>
>...hearing someone cover their songs is *almost* as good.
>
>friday night, after seeing "a very brady sequel," i decided i needed a pint
>of chili pepper ale and some good music.

i'm really glad to know there are fellow ig fans that love an ice cold pint
of chili pepper beer.  it is my absolute favorite (not that my screen name
or chile pepper tattoo give it away).  i only wish i could be pounding down
a few of those while watching the ig live, but unfortunately, for those of
us in the chicago area, we'll just have to wait to see them :( :(

keep rockin' and always take a stand.

roxy

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         am soory to waste space with this, but in my haste the other
day, i forgot to tell those of you sending me tapes for boots to
include a note on what i am taping for you so i am not cornfused!
thanks, kel
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i saw mare winningham play at the starry plough in berkeley in april i
guess it was. she was really good, amazing voice, and she plays a martin.
anyways, she said she and her band were going to be recording an album in
a month or so after she did some tv movie. hope this helps,

derek

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on wednesday, august 28, deb (indigo@clark.net) wrote:
>it's not as though she's in a bind and ended up having to sell stuff she
>previously treasured.  she got the autograph specifically to make a killing
>here, which is *very* different.

how in the hell do you know what my personal financial position is?!?
when i got this autograph three and a half years ago i had no idea that i
would ever be in a position to have to sell it to survive.
i do teasure all of my indigo girls' collection, and it is very difficult to
have to part with it.  but when it comes to having a really cool collection
of some strangers' signatures or having a home to live in, gee, i guess i'd
have to choose my home!
fuck you very much, deb, for making this so easy for me!  if i were you, i
wouldn't be very proud to call myself a fan of the indigo girls!
~~robin

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in a message dated 96-08-28 11:41:29 edt, amy writes:

<< this is my opinion only, but it seemed completely
disrespectful/sarcastic/patronizing, etc. i'm not usually sensitive
about such things, but i'm pretty sure they were goofing on the girls.
in short, it sucked. i'd love to know what anybody who's seen this live
thinks. it could just be me, but i don't think so.
  >>
i've never seen hatbf but are you sure it was sarcastic ?
that makes me sad because they kinda came from the same
scene and all....i have a comp tape from sister ruby records
(affilliated with long play.....buddies of daemon) and there is
an old on it cut by them from  before their label days.

besides....amy ray and darius rucker are actually twins that
were seperated at birth....you can hear it in their voices !!

btw i read an interview w/joni mitchell in billboard...is it just
me but does that magazine suck all of the art out of music ?????
anyway she is putting out two comp cd's "hits" and "misses"
the latter being the songs she thinks were overlooked......
she said something interesting about how many of her songs
never got airplay mainly because of her refusal to pay off
radio people.... it made me wonder about ig and how pot
never even scratched the charts.......... hmmmmmm.......
i got the impression from joni  that the radio and video
media is bloated and corrupt and has very little to do with art.

do any of you think that the indie scene along with the internet
are succeeding in bypassing the established power structure ?????
(varmits !!! :)

binky

"it's too late, she signed on the dotted line......"
(nyro)

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must i remind you guys that if we have to pull
this car over it means trouble !!!!!

thats right !!!

straight to bed and no t.v. !!!!!!!!!

now be nice :)

mom

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ok, now this is totally unnecessary.  i really try to stay out of this
kind of stuff, but you're screaming at my hero now :)  i think if you
plan on using the list as an auction forum, then deb should be allowed to
express her ethical difficulty with that.  i'm sure we can all appreciate
your financial difficulty (been there, done that), but reacting like this
just doesn't help and the language is downright offensive.  a mature
discussion about this off the list would, i'm sure be much more
beneficial to both of you in understanding the other's point of view.

now behave yourselves, you two, or i'm telling auntie emily on you ;)

k.

on wed, 28 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> how in the hell do you know what my personal financial position is?!?
> when i got this autograph three and a half years ago i had no idea that i
> would ever be in a position to have to sell it to survive.
> i do teasure all of my indigo girls' collection, and it is very difficult to
> have to part with it.  but when it comes to having a really cool collection
> of some strangers' signatures or having a home to live in, gee, i guess i'd
> have to choose my home!
> fuck you very much, deb, for making this so easy for me!  if i were you, i
> wouldn't be very proud to call myself a fan of the indigo girls!
> ~~robin

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on wed, 28 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> how in the hell do you know what my personal financial position is?!?
> when i got this autograph three and a half years ago i had no idea that i
> would ever be in a position to have to sell it to survive.

what we have here is a miscommunication.  the wording of your previous post
made it sound to me like you had recently obtained the autograph.  obviously,
that's not the case, so my apologies for my reaction to what i perceived you
to be doing.

> fuck you very much, deb, for making this so easy for me!  if i were you, i
> wouldn't be very proud to call myself a fan of the indigo girls!

oh grow up!  i think a fan of ig would necessarily be offended if what i
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         i would tend to disagree with the suicide theme katy suspected in
lotk.  firstly, and just an unsubstantiated opinion, i think emily is above
the struggle whether to live or not.  i think she knows which side she's on;
she's light, life, love and hope.  suicide?  i don't see the connection.
        the song is to me the difficult choice between career/obsession of
language- writing, singing, communicating, and love.
        my personal obsession isn't writing, but i have felt this struggle
keenly and identified painfully with this song.  i may find love, but if the
piper that is my career plays, i will follow.  but i will always regret
leaving love in the dust, and wish for it back...
"but i'm made mute by the virtue of decision when i chose that most of your
life goes on without me".

"oh, mercy
what i won't give
to have the things that mean the most
not to mean the things i miss."

peace,
susan


>at 11:59 am 28/08/96 -0400, you wrote:
>okay, am i crazy or not?  last night i was listening to lotk on my
>headphones, and it struck me that maybe this song is about suicide, or at
>least has suicidal...undertones?  it definitely doesn't come off as a happy
>song...at the beginning it sounds really depressing...confused, waking from
>dreams, outside looking in, not laughing anymore.  then "i choose most of
>your life goes on without me" could refer to making the choice to die.  all
>the fears she's known...i dunno, the whole thing makes me think that.  having
>memories of "lying on our backs..." and then being alone again.  "i squeeze
>the sky out but there's not a star appears" just sounds depressed.  and i
>just noticed this because i was hearing it through my headphones, not on my
>stereo...but that whispering!  i got this image of one person standing up and
>trying to think clearly and stand strong while there are all these swirling,
>barely audible voices whispering at her.  i dunno...i'm not implying for a
>minute that em's suicidal, but who hasn't dealt with suicide in some form by
>her age?  that's just what i thought...anyone agree?  oh well, maybe i'm not
>the best one to ask, i think i'll just go back to bed =)
>katy
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hi,
my name is alain( allan) and i'm new on the net so i heard a little about
e-mail and i 'd like to link with other indigo girls fans

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subject:      sorry!

hey, y'all just my apology for my *badly* timed flame... i hadnt read what
had gone on after debs post. i got a little pissed reading it, and had to
vent... can we cool off the flames??

peace
tiff

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subject:      re[2]: language or the kiss

the song is to me the difficult choice between career/obsession of
language- writing, singing, communicating, and love.

     oh yes yes yes!!! i always got that this song was about loss of love
     and until _really_ listening i didn't discover this even deeper
     meaning. but in the last part of the song it says it so loudly (not
     literally mind you :)

     "unforgiving the choice still is
     the language or the kiss"

     out of lurkdom again!!! kira =:)

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i know i'm not the only one who has heard this...and was so incredibly blown
away -- i mean it is not totally hard at all. a song called "i'm open" (i
listened to a friends copy and do plan on buying it friday) is soooo like
rem's belong it is wierd. but it is not a rip off. i think if you have any
interest in an album like "automatic for the people" (i know belong is on
out of time) the new pj album would definitely appeal to your tastes.


anyone have an extra ticket for the augusta maine show??? sold out in 8 min.


mike r.

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okay, i'm agreeing with mike, who is agreeing with me.  if we don't have it
in sequim, the san juans are pretty spectacular too.  maybe we could have a
two part folk world, and we could get a ferry going between sequim and the
san juan island of our choice.  how great would that be, sing-a-longs on
the deck of a ferry boat! love sundara

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subject:      re: folk world

how about a little closer and more convenient location like port
townsend?  they've got fort worden state park out at the point that
already hosts musical festivals, a pretty good selection of places to
stay in town, camping at the park, and at least 3-4 night spots that
could have live music when the day festivities are done out at park.

they already have a blues festival there in may and it was a blast this
year.  and, if you're hell bent to go to either sequim or the san juans,
i think there's a bus that runs to sequim and i know there's a passenger
only ferry that goes to friday harbor out of the port hudson marina.

>could be the start of something. . .

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subject:      folk world

i definately want to be a part of folk world. but having grown up in the
south, i feel folk world best belongs in ths south. i think black
mountain, nc is the perfect place for it. i don't know how known black
mountain is outside the south, but it is the folk music place. it's about
20 miles about ashville, nc in the blue ridge mountains. it's a small town
with tons of character. every may they have the black mountain folk music
festival. a weekend full of folk music. folk artists from all over the place
play there. i've never heard of the ig playing there, but that doesn't mean
that they haven't. if you're an outdoors person there's tons to do around
there, hiking, rock climbing, fly fishing, and of course sitting on the
porch of a cabin playing the guitar.

i think we should definately invite doc watson, david wilcox, christine
cane(sp), and david lamotte.

just my thoughts on our utopia.

eb

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de lurking for a moment as i try to browse 500+ messages.
kim:rof(rolling on floor)hee hee, heh heh lol ,now i can't get that
demented collection of lines out of my head... maybe more complicated eh?
folk world: sign me up and get out the map

looking forward to binksters page...
back to lurkdom and my tractor..still laffing

marilyn

the old dog who *is* learning new tricks

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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subject:      b5

chris becker et all....

other than sunday re-runs, i can't find prime time episodes of b5; is
it on a temp hiatus until the new seasons?

melissa

p.s.  on one of the final episodes of st-v, janeway has a great
response to kim's "weird" assesment of a situation...."mr. kim, we're
star fleet officers, weird is part of the job."  you know, sometimes
i feel that way myself.

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ew, i don't like port townsend.  it's too cold in the winter (ow! below
zero!) and it goes against the rules of 70-75.  i'm still afraid i'd never
get to sequim, and the san juans, while beautiful, also go against the
temperature requirement and rain just as much, if not more, than seattle.
so...i guess we have to have it here!  :)  :)  or else, as i think
lorindigo might have intended, on our own planet, a very seattlesque world
with all the good and none of the bad.  but half of it drips like it does
here, or i'm not going.....
am i being a little too demanding?  :)

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on wed, 28 aug 1996, ron johnson wrote:

> how about a little closer and more convenient location like port
> townsend?  they've got fort worden state park out at the point that
> already hosts musical festivals, a pretty good selection of places to
> stay in town, camping at the park, and at least 3-4 night spots that
> could have live music when the day festivities are done out at park.
>
> they already have a blues festival there in may and it was a blast this
> year.  and, if you're hell bent to go to either sequim or the san juans,
> i think there's a bus that runs to sequim and i know there's a passenger
> only ferry that goes to friday harbor out of the port hudson marina.
>
> >could be the start of something. . .
>
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    i love the lines about college! i see it as a "rah, rah" song
also.... graduating college is a milestone... i am a teacher and
when i sing that song i feel like i am saying... i spent 4 years
listening to you tell me how to teach and now i finally have that
damn piece of paper that says, "ok now you are ready"... i got my
paper and i was free.... free to enter another stage of my life...

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 26 aug 1996 to 27 aug 1996 -

             special              issue -reply

from a fellow chicagoan to another: when are they comin' around here?

just asking,
-j

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subject:      npr/pbs funding petition

indigo girls listees:

i'm going to pass this along to the list... it seems an appropriate place to
post it.   if i'm really outta line please let me apoligize in advance.

michelle mowery


subject: npr/pbs funding petition

for anyone who thinks npr/pbs is a worthwhile expenditure of
$1.12/year  of their taxes (as opposed to, say, newt
gingrich's salary?), petition  follows. if you sign, please
forward on to others (not back to me). if  not, please don't
kill it -- send it to the email address listed here:
wein2688@blue.univnorthco.edu

pbs, npr (national public radio), and the arts are facing
major  cutbacks in funding.  in spite of the efforts of each
station to reduce  spending costs and streamline their
services, the government officials  believe that the funding
currently going to these programs is too large  a portion of
funding for something which is seen as "unworthwhile".
currently, taxes from the general public for pbs equal $1.12
per person  per year, and the national endowment for the arts
equals $.64 a year in  total. a january 1995 cnn/usa
today/gallup poll indicated that 76% of  americans wish to
keep funding for pbs, third only to national defense  and law
enforcement as the most valuable programs for federal
funding.

each year, the senate and house appropriations committees
each have 13  subcommittees with jurisdiction over many
programs and agencies. each  subcommittee passes its own
appropriation bill.  the goal each year is  to have each bill
signed by the beginning of the fiscal year, which is  october
1.  in the instance of the corporation of public
broadcasting,  the bill determines the funding for the next
three years.  when this  issue comes up in 1996, the funding
will be determined for fiscal years  1996-1998.

the only way that our representatives can be aware of the
base of  support for pbs and funding for these types of
programs is by making  our voices heard.

please add your name to this list and forward it to friends
if you  believe in what we stand for.

this list will be forwarded to the president of the united
states, the  vice president of the united states, and
representative newt gingrich,  who is the instigator of the
action to cut funding to these worthwhile  programs.

if you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, etc. signer of
this  petition, please forward a copy to
wein2688@blue.univnorthco.edu. if  that address is
inoperative, please send it to  kubi7975@blue.univnorthco.edu.
this way we can keep track of the lists and organize them.
forward this  to everyone you know, and help us to keep these
programs alive.

thank you.

1)  elizabeth weinert, student, university of northern colorado,
     greeley, colorado.
2)  robert m. penn.; san francisco, ca
3)  gregory s. williamson, san francisco, ca
4)  daniel c. knightly, austin, tx
5)  andrew h. knightly, los angeles, ca
6)  aaron c. yeater, somerville, ma
7)  tobie m. cornejo, washington, dc
8)  john t. mason, dalton, ma
9)  eric w. fish, williamstown, ma
10) courtney e. estill, hamilton college, ny
11) vanessa moore, northfield, mn
12) lynne raschke, haverford college, pa (originally minnesota)
13) deborah bielak, haverford, pa
14) morgan lloyd, haverford, pa 19041
15) galen lloyd, goucher college, md
16) brian eastwood, university of vermont, vt
17) elif batuman, harvard university, ma
18) kohar jones, yale university, ct
19) claudia brittenham, yale university, ct
20) alexandra block, yale university, ct
21) susanna chu, yale university, ct
22) michelle chen, harvard university, ma
23) jessica hammer, harvard university, ma
24) ann pettigrew, haverford college, pa
25) kirstin knox, swarthmore college, pa
26) jason adler, swarthmore college, pa
27) daniel gottlieb, swarthmore college (but truly from lawrence, ks)
28) josh feltman, tufts university, ma
29) louise forrest, massachusetts institute of technology, ma
30) hongsup park, massachusetts institute of technology, ma
    (originally from portage, wisconsin)
31) ana sandoval,massachusetts institute of technology
32) katherine navarrete, massachusetts institute of technology
33) mandisa washington, massachusetts institute of technology
34) stephen balzac, san francisco, ca
35) howard yermish, los angeles, ca
36) danielle yermish, los angeles, ca
37) david s. lefkowitz, university of california - los angeles
38) frank s. albinder, san francisco, ca
39) read s. sherman, harvard divinity school
40) stephane lemelin, cambridge, ma
41) thomas ouellette, cambidge, ma
42) richard russell, cambridge, ma
43) nella wennberg, jamaica plain, ma
44) eric smith, jamaica plain, ma
45) alex graham, boston, ma
46) dean wei, chicago, il
47) luisita frances, chicago, il
48) roy vella, stanford, ca
49) alan hellawell, mountain view, ca
50) timothy a. scott, san francisco, ca

51) albert m. yeh, mountain view, ca
52) susan yeh, seattle, wa
53) jonathan payne, seattle, wa
54) cena pohl, seattle, wa
55) david perk, seattle, wa
56) robert srygley, seattle wa
57) katarzyna s. kubzdela, chicago, il
58) katy human, stanford, ca
59) erica fleishman, reno, nv
60) c. richard tracy, reno, nv
61) kenneth e. nussear, reno, nv
62) christopher r. tracy, university of wisconsin, madison, wi
63) kristin komives, carrboro, nc
64) jennifer goldman, chapel hill, nc
65) darcy leach, university of michigan, ann arbor, mi
66) van luong, university of michigan, ann arbor, mi
67) aurora m. sherman, university of michigan, ann arbor, mi
68) paul o. stern, seattle, wa
69) erika tapman, u. of vermont college of medicine
70) opher donchin, urbana, il
71) prof. pamela cosman, university of california, san diego
72) ari levitt, university of washington, seattle, wa
73) nathan martin, berkeley, california
74) lynn price, kensington, california
75) leslie shown, kensiongton, ca
76) mike boals, berkeley, ca
77) wendy boals, berkeley, ca
78) effie westervelt, tiburon, ca
79) mary burns, taos, nm
80) karen page, new york, ny  (karenapage@aol.com)
81) gary holleman, bemidji, mn (holleman@chefnet.com)
82) tim rosa, newton, ma (trosa@world.std.com)
83) doug hersh, sherborn ma (hersh@ultranet.com)
84) ruel little, somerville, ma (rlittle@ascensiontech.com)
85) stefan wennik, andover, ma (swennik@aol.com)
86) melissa walia, sf, ca  (color@well.com)
87) tracy brown, sf, ca (tracy@nrh.com)
88) john t. miller, sf, ca (johncom@dnai.com)
89) m. todd davis, sf, ca (todd_davis@gensler.com)
90) michael demetrios, sf, ca
91) j. marc perrin, ny, ny (mperrin@sbi.com)
92) alyse daberko, ny, ny (adaberko@sbi.com)
93) jessica guertin, washington univ. st. louis (jg3@cec.wustl.edu)
94) ellen watson, san francisco, ca
95) bridgitt arnold, seattle, wa
96) erica yenni, seattle, wa
97) kerri karvetski, seattle, wa (70007.4401@compuserve.com)
98) mark butler, seattle, wa
99) lazlow jones, long beach, ny  lazlow@undernet.com
100) laura bykowski, nyc, ny  laurab@gbcom.com

101) amy stettler, nyc, ny  ziolas@aol.com
102) f ben dana, burlington, vermont
103) bill dahill-baue, brattleboro, vt
104) s. ryan quick, yale university, new haven, ct
105) jerry anne dickel, yale university, new haven, ct
106) donald beebe, yale university, new haven, ct
107) stephanie seery, school of theology at claremont, ca
108) katherine a. johnson, baltimore, md
109) cynthia j. halstead, burke, va
110) ronald northrip, falls church, va ronnlee@clark.net
111) jane levandoski, university of delaware, de
112) denise j. hills, university of delaware, de
113) david p. sobel, college of william & mary, va
114) amey t. sadler, college of william& mary, va
115) donna m. livingston, woodbridge, va
116) karen a. morris, burke, va
117) michael e. perdue  atlanta, ga
118) david cour, washington d.c.
119) katie sergent, washington d.c.
120) nathan sewell, nashville, tn
121) peter eby, nashville, tn
122) jeff taraday, seattle, wa
123) julie taraday, seattle, wa>
124) stephanie cooper, seattle wa
125) kailen mooney, seattle, wa
126) dylan clark, univ. of wa, anthropology, seattle 98195
127) daniel simons, university of washington, seattle, wa
128) peter anderson, university of washington, seattle
129) rob perry, tampa, fl
130) karen davis, kailua-kona, hawaii
131) april severson portland,oregon
132) jill karsten, university of hawaii at manoa, hawaii
133) khalil j. spencer, honolulu, hawaii
134) charles h. miller, honolulu, hawaii 21*19'10" n  157*49'45" w
135) ed ketz, honolulu, hawaii (ketz@pulua.hcc.hawaii.ed
136) linda r. thompson, harding univ., searcy, ar lthompson@harding.edu>
137) dayl l . scherich, university of arkansas <dscheric@comp.uark.edu
138) randolph l. mowry, new york university <mowry@is.nyu.edu>
139) elliot m. austin, new york university <austine@is3.nyu.edu>
140) ro conforti, new york university, ny, ny
141) kelly otter, new york university, nyc  <otter@is3.nyu.edu>
142) janet f. davidson, nyu, nyc  <jfd0039@is.nyu.edu>
143) joanne k. griffin, new york university, ny, ny
144) dona j. lethbridge, university of alabama in huntsville
145) thomas a. moss, huntsville, alabama <tamoss@ingr.com>
146) william s. frantz, los gatos, california <frantz@netcom.com>
147) arrita peri frantz, los gatos, california, <apfrantz@apple.com>
148) kim coleman, santa clara, ca <kac1162@aol.com>
149) ray umphreys, cary, nc
150) bonnie umphreys, cary, nc 74644.356@compuserve.com

151) sherwin gooch, sunnyvale, ca 94087
152) david a. comstock, san jose, ca 95120
         <comstock.d@applelink.apple.com>
153) geri z. comstock, san jose, ca 95120
154) lu reid, campbell, ca  95008   <adream@apple.com>
155) dave thomas, campbell, ca  95008
156) bernard chen, rice university, houston, tx  77054
157) kerry robinson, washington university in st. louis, mo 63132
158) tess garcia, medical college of virginia, richmond
159) claire garcia, the colorado college, colorado springs, co  80903
160) jane cauvel,  the colorado college, colorado springs, co 80903
161) kathy brandt, the colorado college, colorado springs, co 80903
162) phillippa kassover, the colorado college, colorado springs, co 80903
162) kevin connors, colorado college, colorado springs, co  80903
163) tyler stevens, green mountain falls, co  80910
163) grant lange, seattle, wa  98103
164) yakaira nunez, university of illinois, urbana, il. 61801
165) grey larsen, unionville in 474681
166) mark d. moss, bethlehem, pa 18015-0253
167) larry fish, denver, co 80210
168) rebecca miklich, denver, co 80219
169) charles b. hall, colorado springs, co 80908
170) nancy j. skye ridley, denver co 80220
171) james mackay, denver co 80236-3414
172) michelle mowery, long beach, ca  90804
173) margaret walton, long beach, ca 90807

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 15:03:51 edt
reply-to:     mary kushman <ugkushma@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu>
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subject:      time mag. article thing

taking another break from pushing electrons...

that article that jen hall posted today is a total scream!  sounds like someone
didn't quite know what the heck they were writing about!! the thing that kicked
me in the gut the most was the description of amy's voice as being harsh and
growling(i think that's what it said).  not a good choice of words, imho.

i'm suprised too at how pessimistic the article seemed.  i am not so sure it
got across the philosophies behind the music a and e create--that your chosen
field of work should be something that you really enjoy.  i also can't believe
that the article seemed to imply that a and e are not good friends.  that
definitely wasn't cool.

just my two cents for today,
mary

back to pushing electrons....

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 19:00:13 -0600
reply-to:     "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>
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from:         "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>
subject:      re: alt.music.indigo-girls

i don't think my wonderful net provider, the university of texas at
dallas, is actually relaying outbound articles in that group. in
english, when i post, no one else can see it.

if you have a minute, look in the group and see if you see a post i
made to test the waters.

thanks! mail me if you see it!


....................
tony at mendina                   "the only thing to prevent
mendina@utdallas.edu              what's past is to put a stop
dallas, texas usa                 to it before it happens."
(214) 907-1057                      --sir boyle roche

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 16:53:16 -0400
reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      re: another item for sale...

at 11:48 am 8/28/96 -0400, you wrote:
>on wed, 28 aug 1996, m gordon wrote:
>
>> not that i know how a&e would think, but this is my guess.   if robin
>> needs to cash, she needs the cash.
>
>it's not as though she's in a bind and ended up having to sell stuff she
>previously treasured.  she got the autograph specifically to make a killing
>here, which is *very* different.
>


geez! *tiff ducks the fireballs* its good to see how *some* listees can help
each other out.. just how do you know what robin does or does not do? im
sure seeing that she's and equally devoted fan as the rest of us here, if
she didnt have to sell it, she wouldnt have.  i'd think you'd be more
willing to help someone out then flame them for trying to earn some needed
cash.  if you have your own opinion, fine. but keep it to yourself, cause
the people on here who *care* about robin dont want to here it.

robin..count me in, im on your side...

peace--
tiff

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date:         wed, 28 aug 1996 20:01:06 -0500
reply-to:     thomas william seal <tseal@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
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from:         thomas william seal <tseal@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
subject:      new member

        hello everyone,

        i'm finally a subscriber to the list!

        most of you probably remember me from the new orleans concert at uno,
and jazz fest. i'm tamara's cousin, tommy. i finally have a computer to
get on the list with.

tommy

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subject:      re: late from newport and hottie's igc

in a message dated 96-08-28 11:41:29 edt, amy1@alpeng.com (amy mednick)
writes:

>now that i was actually present for it, i
>have the definite impression that it was not complimentary toward our
>beloved girls. this is my opinion only, but it seemed completely
>disrespectful/sarcastic/patronizing, etc. i'm not usually sensitive
>about such things, but i'm pretty sure they were goofing on the girls.
>in short, it sucked. i'd love to know what anybody who's seen this live
>thinks. it could just be me, but i don't think so.

they did the same thing at their 8/15 show at hershey, pa, but i didn't
interpret it as disrespectful, etc.  i thought they did a good job and wished
that they could have performed the entire song instead of merely the first
verse.  any time i have ever seen any artist cover another artist it has
always been out of respect for their music, and not as a goof.

-sheri : )

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

  _       _ ------ _               o      |....when you learn
{  ~\_/         o   \    o  o           |to love yourself
{  ~ _   ]          <  o                 |you will dissolve
{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
   seaphish@aol.com                -amy ray
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subject:      a mass thank you and amy and wynonna on 99x

first of all (and this is the last of it that you will hear from me) a big
and heartfelt thank you to all you listers out there that showed your support
over my recent flaming from those who disagree with the sale of autographed
parphanalia.
now...onto ig content...
i live in atlanta and today on 99x radio, amy ray and wynonna laduke were in
the studio chatting about honor the earth.  they played several songs from
the new cd.  toad the wet sprocket and indegious sounded great.  they did not
play the girls tune.  apparently, amy told the dj that he didn't have to play
an indigo girls tune... he thought that she was cute for saying that!
wynonna laduke announced that she is running in the vice-presidency postion
on the ralph nader ballot...hmmmmmm..... i won't get into politics here!!!!!
(still recovering from the recently aquired burns)!
all in all, it was a good interview.  they both came off sounding very
informed and intelligent (as we know they are).  unfortunatly, i was at work
trying to listen to it, so i only caught bits and pieces.  then did mention
the web sight, in case some of you don't have it:
http://www.honorearth.com
that's all folks!!!
~~robin

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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      re: another item for sale...

i realize that its getting hard to tell the players w/o a score card, but in
all fairness, this quote did not come from melissa.  what melissa actually
said was,

        "not that i know how a&e would think, but this is my guess.   if
         robin needs to cash, she needs the cash. it's not like she's
         'ripping off the free world.'"

        "i just hope that she has the opportunity when her financial
         situation improves to replace the items she's selling."

trant

>
> at 11:48 am 8/28/96 -0400, tiff wrote:
> >on wed, 28 aug 1996, m gordon wrote:
> >
> >> not that i know how a&e would think, but this is my guess.   if robin
> >> needs to cash, she needs the cash.
> >
> >it's not as though she's in a bind and ended up having to sell stuff she
> >previously treasured.  she got the autograph specifically to make a killing
> >here, which is *very* different.
> >
>

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subject:      folk world: a word from your leaders
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gwen keyt wrote:
> ew, i don't like port townsend.  it's too cold in the winter (ow! below
> zero!) and it goes against the rules of 70-75.  i'm still afraid i'd never
> get to sequim, and the san juans, while beautiful, also go against the
> temperature requirement and rain just as much, if not more, than seattle.
> so...i guess we have to have it here!  :)  :)  or else, as i think
> lorindigo might have intended, on our own planet, a very seattlesque world
> with all the good and none of the bad.  but half of it drips like it does
> here, or i'm not going.....

hmmm, i think lorinda and i may not have explained this as clearly as
we thought we did: either that or y'all are missing the point
entirely here... :)

folk world is not going to be situated on any existing piece of
land, be it in the north, south, east or west of the usa.  folk
world is in folk world!  "but where is folk world!?" i hear you
cry.  well, let me see if i can explain... folk world is part of
earth, just as, say, tolkein's middle earth is part of earth.
we rational beings *know* that it's a part of the existing planet -
it just hasn't been discovered in physical reality yet.  folk world,
when it's found, will of course be settled by folk fans and musicians
of discerning taste, and will also have a multitude of climates to
suit all tastes (as long as the weather remains within our limits),
lots of animals, etc etc etc.  got it?  pretty simple, really. :)

back to piecing together christine's jigsaw and watching the
tennis - ah, life is hard... :)
sherlyn (sherlyn@fl.net.au)

"looking back, seeing far, landing right where we are..."
                                - dar williams

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speaking of amy's voice being "harsh and growling," i was supervising my
newly-licensed brother and his friend today in the car. since i was doing
them this favor i claimed the right to choose the music - of course, none
other than 1200c. it was blaring "tangled up in blue" and my brother's
friend asked who was singing. i told him, and he immediatley asks, "then
who's the guy?"
i set him straight right away on the issue of amy's gender.  but i
thought it was kinda funny.
also, my brother, a devout guns 'n roses fan, refers to ig as "the enemy"
since my parents and i never listen to anything else in the car and he
has to sit through it on road trips.

peace,
amy

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subject:      indigo girls concert september 19 supper club in nyc

can anybody tell me how to get tickets to the indigo girls at the supper
club on september 19.

michael marra

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subject:      folk world...nc???

oooohh  oooohh oooohh!!!!  i totally agree with elizabeth...black mountain, nc
(or anywhere in western nc) would be a wonderful place for folk world!  being
a tennessee neighbor, i can testify to the area's natural beauty.  and there's
the cherokee indian reservation nearby, too!  what a beautiful area.  when
amy was talking in the 1200 curfews liner notes about neil young's "down by the
river" evoking in her the desire to jump off a cliff into oblivion...well,
when you look out over those gazillion layers of mountains, it is like looking
into oblivion/infinity.  (that song is a great soundtrack for a drive in the
mountains, btw)  aaaaaaaahhhhh!   i'm *inspired*

peace and southern appalachian summitts...

joan :)

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subject:      amy's masculine voice

hey y'all!

well, just today, i was listening to myu latest obsession (chiapas bound),
and a good friend mistook it for a neil young song, even after he heard the
singing (to his credit, it was a boot on my boombox at work - not too
clear).  which is intersting because i remember thinking at newport that
amy's new stuff (kind friend, chiapas bound) is very neil young-ish.

oh, and a long time ago when i bought jcs, a friend started telling me about
the best ever version of gethsemane while we were listening to amy singing
it.  and she said, "now, this guy, he's doing a good job, but not quite as
good".  i said "what guy?"  :-)

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
-amy ray

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>most of you probably remember me from the new orleans concert at uno,
>and jazz fest. i'm tamara's cousin, tommy. i finally have a computer to
>get on the list with.


what?!  who is this person??  : )  (*big smiley*)


peace and relatives (one of the few things in life you can count on!),
tamara

p.s.  hey tomster!  :)

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subject:      re: another item for sale (a really bitchin' flame)

>must i remind you guys that if we have to pull
>this car over it means trouble !!!!!

>thats right !!!

>straight to bed and no t.v. !!!!!!!!!

>now be nice :)

>mom

ya know, as much as you may not like to admit it, mom pretty much always speaks
with the voice of reason... especially in this case!  :)

thanks claire (a.k.a. the benevolent peacemaker)!!  (*smile*)

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subject:      re: mr limes& least complicated ( ? )at least!
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what does lol mean?  i feel stupid, but i just can't figure it
out....loser on line?

wendell

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subject:      re: language or the kiss
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susan m. anderson wrote:
>
>          i would tend to disagree with the suicide theme katy suspected in
> lotk.  firstly, and just an unsubstantiated opinion, i think emily is above
> the struggle whether to live or not.  i think she knows which side she's on;
> she's light, life, love and hope.  suicide?  i don't see the connection.
>         the song is to me the difficult choice between career/obsession of
> language- writing, singing, communicating, and love.

my interpretation is pretty similar-----
i see it as making the difficult decision between leaving her family for whom
she adores in order to write pursue her love of music.
                                        "i don't know if it was real or in a dream lately waking up i'm not sure where
i've been  there was a table set for six and five were there i stood outside and
kept my eyes upon that empty chair (she has 5 others in her family)"

        to me, the next couple of lines talk about knowing the language between her
and her family and how comfortable that was, but now she is mute by the
decision she made to "leave" her family and tour.

i don't know--what do you think about this interpretation?
:)shelley

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subject:      re: mr limes& least complicated ( ? )at least!
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well, it's actually laugh out loud..to indicate laughter since no one
knows you're laughing unless you tell them...

but i like yours much better, and i'm gonna use it from now on!!

lollol=loser on line laughing out loud, or laughing-out-loud-loser on line
llolol=loser laughing out loud on line
olllol=on line loser laughing out loud
lololl=laughing out loud on line loser
lolol=lauging out loud on line
lol(w)=indicates loser on line (a la wendell) and not laugh out loud

i love it!!!!!!!!! :)

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"ha ha, and ho ho, and hee hee" --"the chink", even cowgirls get the blues
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

on wed, 28 aug 1996, wendell lee wrote:

> what does lol mean?  i feel stupid, but i just can't figure it
> out....loser on line?
>
> wendell
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subject:      the mesa, az show

hey y'all,

   i just got in from az about an hour ago.  the show in mesa was nice.  i
really liked the venue.  mesa ampitheater is kinda small and all grass
sorta going up a hill and grassy steps.  nice place to see a show with the
moon coming up.  wow, was it hot! i guess temps were like around 100, but i
drank a few frozen margaritas during the show to stay cool.  i was really
bummed about all the people talking.  i mean a lot of people were like
picnicing, not watching the show.  my boot came out good, but it has more
audience noise than the two i got in new mexico.  i was really nice to
drive home across the desert with the moon rising (it was full tonight) up
out of the clouds over the red mesas and listen to the tapes and write down
the setlists.

mesa, az setlist

three hits
least complicated
dpn't give that girl a gun
get out the map
tried to be true
leeds
kind friend
caramia
bury my heart at wounded knee
it's alright
reunion
withrop
cut it out
chiaps bound
prince of darkness
remeber everything i told you (?)
chichenman (goes into blood quantum and back to chickenman)
galileo
--cecelia rodrigues speaks
blood quantum
shame on you
closer to fine


    as you can see the setlist is really long.  they said we were in for a
long show because it was the last night on the practice tour.  i guess that
means they'll be playing more old stuff in seattle.  chickeman was great.
i also really liked kind friend.  amy said she had a chance to follow a
band around and sorta be a groupie herself and that sarah was there and
that's when she wrote kind friend.  the lyrics mention locations up in the
northwest and i know amy played a few shows there with ani difranco.  i
wonder if that's who she followed when she wrote the song.  i would love to
get a copy of any boots with amy and ani if there are some floating around.
    ....oooh, i'm suddenly feelin' really tired.  kinda a letdown after all
the excitement.  i'll talk to y'all tomorrow and post santa fe's set list.
and maybe donna could post the las cruces setlist for us.
     i have like 600+ messages to get to still, so if any of y'all wrote me
give me a couple days to get back to ya.  i'm a little behind.......


                        --sunny

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lol= laugh out loud

hugs anthony van pyre

on wed, 28 aug 1996, wendell lee wrote:

> what does lol mean?  i feel stupid, but i just can't figure it
> out....loser on line?
>
> wendell
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subject:      pls read if i am dubbing "these songs" for you!!

hi all!

sorry to waste the space and all, but i wanted to post my address for all of
you aquarians who probably have not been able to get ahold of me...due to my
vacation/dead computer!  :(

here it is!  just send me your 100 min. tape and the sase...

jan stevens
14145 n 92nd st # 2128
scottsdale, az  85260

sorry again about the delay.  i'm happy to be back!

jan

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on wed, 28 aug 1996, gwendigo wrote:
>
> lollol=loser on line laughing out loud, or laughing-out-loud-loser on line
> llolol=loser laughing out loud on line
> olllol=on line loser laughing out loud
> lololl=laughing out loud on line loser
> lolol=lauging out loud on line
> lol(w)=indicates loser on line (a la wendell) and not laugh out loud


rotfl!!!!!! (.....figure that one out wendell!!!)

juliet.

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subject:      supper club show

--- you wrote:
can anybody tell me how to get tickets to the indigo girls at the supper
club on september 19.

michael marra
--- end of quoted material ---

hey michael and anyone else who is interested....

i heard if you take "the sexy sues" from the northeast (that'd be me, susan
hetherington, and susan guardino) you get a free set of ginsu knives!!!!

seriously though, sue guardino has the phone number for that show. hope it's
okay i post that----we both wanted to go, but tickets are $250, $500 and $1000
and emily hasn't yet sent me my monthly royalties for metioning her name in
every third sentence

back to work-

susan

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subject:      bumbershoot weather

for those of you traveling to seattle for bumbershoot here is the forcast

   friday:   cloudy; chance of showers h 70  l 54
   saturday: cloudy to partly sunny    h 72  l 56
   sunday:   partly sunny              h 74  l 56
   monday:   clouds & sunshine         h 74  l 56

not too bad (actually perfect)

mike.

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subject:      re: language or the kiss -reply

being that i recently moved 1,200 miles from my home (a connection
with 1200c??) i understand exactly what emily feels.  to follow the
path you think is best for your own development is  a decision which
can make your family feel as if there is a void where you once were.
i can see the dinner table at my house with an empty place setting.
i agree very much with your interpretation, and must say that though
i see the suicidal undertones, i don't think that's were e was going.

the choice is _always_ language or the kiss.

-j

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subject:      items for sale:  i want to know!!!

folks,

while i sympathize with other contributor's concerns regarding the sale and
auction of indigo girls-related items, and empathize with those who may need
to sell personal items to relieve debt, i look at this issue from a different
perspective.   this newsgroup is a forum for information on the indigo girls
that is not generally available from record stores, publications, etc.
indeed, since joining this list i have purchased an original t-shirt,
enjoyed a concert i would have otherwise missed, and found cds i didn't know
existed.  my point is that, as a fan, i want to know about ig-related
material available to me.   i can only be so concerned about the ethics of
these transactions, since much of what we discuss (taping concerts, making
bootlegs) is of questionable legality anyway.  so if you've got something
cool related to a&e, whether or not you post it to this newsgroup, please let
harveybri@aol.com know about it.   i might just buy -- and not lose sleep
about it.

thanks,
brian

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subject:      re: supper club

sorry, don't know michael's id to send directly...

what a great deal !! so michael, for one low low price of $750 you
can see the show and have a nice new set of knives.

the number is (612)221-4465 for info and 1-800-earth07 for reservations.
info was posted to the list about a week ago, but i dont have the note


>--- you wrote:
>can anybody tell me how to get tickets to the indigo girls at
>the supper        club on september 19.
>
>michael marra
>--- end of quoted material ---
>
>hey michael and
>anyone else who is interested....
>
>heard if you take "the sexy sues" from the northeast (that'd be me,
>susan     hetherington, and susan guardino) you get a free set of ginsu
>knives!!!!
>seriously though, sue guardino has the phone
>number for that show. hope it's    okay i post that----we both wanted to
>go, but tickets are $250, $500 and $1000  and emily hasn't yet sent me
>my monthly royalties for metioning her name in     every third sentence

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> i know i'm not the only one who has heard this...and was so incredibly blown
> away -- i mean it is not totally hard at all. a song called "i'm open" (i
> listened to a friends copy and do plan on buying it friday) is soooo like
> rem's belong it is wierd. but it is not a rip off. i think if you have any
> interest in an album like "automatic for the people" (i know belong is on
> out of time) the new pj album would definitely appeal to your tastes.

the new pearl jam is great!  certainly a wide variety of sounds/styles on
the album...from country/folk to hard-driving rock (although less of that
than the other).

also, i noticed that eddie vedder in the photo on the trading cards sleeve
is wearing an "uptown lounge" t-shirt.  you can even make tail of the ga
part in the lower right corner.  all i know of the ul is it is where the
ig live video was filmed.  what city is it in??

-dave (in boulder)

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subject:      norfolk story, embarrassing moment..

hey,
since i love and trust all of you i can share a mm-related
embarrassing moment. at the norfolk concert i was checking out the
paraphenalia at the t-shirt counter and among the many items
there i saw the mm cd. i turned to my friend and said, "i only
brought forty bucks. should i get  michelle malone's cd or a shirt?'
my friend said "a shirt." i turned to the woman arranging the cd
display and said "is it cash only?" and got a blank look and then
the man at the booth said "yeah."  anyway, to make a long story
boring, 20 minutes later the same woman came out on stage and opened
for the girls. i didn't recognize michelle! and worse still, i
decided on an over-priced t-shirt instead of the sweat of her brow
within her hearing. sheesh.
     the girls were fabulous, and i'd like to get my hands on a boot
if any are out there. for those of you who were there and annoyed
by the inconsiderate audience members,  i was too, and gave a couple of
them a peice of my mind, although lord knows i can't spare much more.
      in the middle of the concert there was something going on in
the back of the venue, and amy said "is there a fight?" and grinned
at  emily and e laughed and told us "one time we opened for rem
(back when they used to know us) and there was a fight in the
back and every one turned around to watch it instead of us and
amy yelled 'sit down!' "  ah my beloved ig.

     new cd in march! wooo hooo!

    jody

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subject:      concert in california

hello!  this is my first post to the group, but i just found out the
girls are going to play with joan baez and dar williams in california on
october 19, and i'm so excited, i thought i'd write and see if there are
any other people going to the concert (finally!!! after having to
enjoy others' concert tales vicariously, they come to ca- hopefully with
some of their new songs?!)

they are playing to a limited audience- only 400 people, i'm told, and
the evening begins with a bay cruise, departing from san francisco. it
is a benefit concert for the bread and roses organization, and will be-
get this- on alcatraz island!!! (i'm told they'll play in the dining
hall!!!)

if anyone else is going, or knows more about this, please reply!

: )  tina w.

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x-to:         gwen keyt <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>

i can't resist.  i think that folk world should be kind of a make your
own paradise kind of thing as far as where it takes place.  for those
who love new england in the fall it would be new england in the fall.
gwen would get her perfect world and even the performers would have
there perfect world. in short, we would all be living in our own little
worlds together.

-jessi

>----------
>from:  gwen keyt[smtp:gkeyt@paul.spu.edu]
>sent:  wednesday, august 28, 1996 3:47 pm
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       re: folk world
>
>ew, i don't like port townsend.  it's too cold in the winter (ow! below
>zero!) and it goes against the rules of 70-75.  i'm still afraid i'd never
>get to sequim, and the san juans, while beautiful, also go against the
>temperature requirement and rain just as much, if not more, than seattle.
>so...i guess we have to have it here!  :)  :)  or else, as i think
>lorindigo might have intended, on our own planet, a very seattlesque world
>with all the good and none of the bad.  but half of it drips like it does
>here, or i'm not going.....
>am i being a little too demanding?  :)
>
>*************************************************************************
>"ha ha, and ho ho, and hee hee" --"the chink", even cowgirls get the blues
>******gwen keyt******
>seattle pacific university
>bsn class of 1997
>gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
>
>on wed, 28 aug 1996, ron johnson wrote:
>
>> how about a little closer and more convenient location like port
>> townsend?  they've got fort worden state park out at the point that
>> already hosts musical festivals, a pretty good selection of places to
>> stay in town, camping at the park, and at least 3-4 night spots that
>> could have live music when the day festivities are done out at park.
>>
>> they already have a blues festival there in may and it was a blast this
>> year.  and, if you're hell bent to go to either sequim or the san juans,
>> i think there's a bus that runs to sequim and i know there's a passenger
>> only ferry that goes to friday harbor out of the port hudson marina.
>>
>> >could be the start of something. . .
>>
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subject:      uptown lounge...

>also, i noticed that eddie vedder in the photo on the trading cards sleeve
>is wearing an "uptown lounge" t-shirt.  you can even make tail of the ga
>part in the lower right corner.  all i know of the ul is it is where the
>ig live video was filmed.  what city is it in??
>
>-dave (in boulder)

not that i'm an expert (native washingtonian) but i was just there a few
weeks ago. the uptown lounge is in athens, ga at 120 e. washington st.
actually, i discovered to my dismay, that the current ul is not the original
shown in the girl's video.  that place is two doors up the block and is now
called the atomic.  i tried in vain to buy an ul t-shirt but they were sold
out. very pouty...   i did make it inside the atomic one night just to check
out the stage where they (the girls) played in the video; i was on a quest
of sorts....8-}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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date:         fri, 30 aug 1996 02:56:02 +1000
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subject:      caroline aiken, dar williams, fiona apple & more (fwd)

apologies if this has already been posted, folks, but i figured
it looks too interesting too miss.

happy folk world all,
sherlyn

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 29 aug 1996 07:15:56 -0400 (edt)
from: stephen c ellis <scellis@umich.edu>
to: ecto@ecto.org
subject: caroline aiken, dar williams, fiona apple & more


this weekend's edition of the national radio show acoustic cafe will be
featuring the following songs that i thought ecto members might like.

caroline aiken, who is a singer-songwriter from athens, is a good friend
of the indigo girls and actually gave them their first gigs (she has
operates a club/coffeeehouse for performing artists) which launched
amy and emily to success.

for more information about the acoustic cafe radio show, you can e-mail
them at "acafe@ic.net".  for the non-us list members, the show is carried
on the voice of america network which means you should be able to pick it
up in most regions of the world.  once again, e-mail the show for
frequencies and times.

______________________________________________
acoustic cafe, week of august 30-september 2
(condensed to highlight ecto-friendly artists)

"tear stained eye" - kris mckay
interview and music - caroline aiken ("that's what ...,"
                                       "my there for me guitar")
"slow like honey" - fiona apple
"christians and pagans" - dar williams
"something of a dreamer" - mary chapin carpenter (live)
"stalls when it's warm" - lisa cerbone
"shameless" - ani difranco
interview and music - caroline aiken ("miracle")

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date:         thu, 29 aug 1996 11:42:05 -0700
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: language or the kiss
x-to:         stetler <sstetler@jeffco.k12.co.us>
in-reply-to:  <32252d99.1ce3@jeffco.k12.co.us>

you know, i always thought lotk was about making a choice between being a
friend to someone or becoming romantically involved.  you talk with your
friends, and you kiss your lovers.  ok, some people kiss their frinds too,
but i'm thinking symbolically.  but i guess emily has said before, it is
about being away from home.  i like the broadness of it all though.


wendell

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date:         thu, 29 aug 1996 14:21:07 -0400
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subject:      re: caroline aiken, dar williams, fiona apple & more (fwd)

in a message dated 96-08-29 13:41:42 edt, you write:

>---------- forwarded message ----------
>date: thu, 29 aug 1996 07:15:56 -0400 (edt)
>from: stephen c ellis <scellis@umich.edu>
>to: ecto@ecto.org
>subject: caroline aiken, dar williams, fiona apple & more
>
>
>this weekend's edition of the national radio show acoustic cafe will be
>featuring the following songs that i thought ecto members might like.
>
>caroline aiken, who is a singer-songwriter from athens, is a good friend
>of the indigo girls and actually gave them their first gigs (she has
>operates a club/coffeeehouse for performing artists) which launched
>amy and emily to success.
>
>for more information about the acoustic cafe radio show, you can e-mail
>them at "acafe@ic.net".  for the non-us list members, the show is carried
>on the voice of america network which means you should be able to pick it
>up in most regions of the world.  once again, e-mail the show for
>frequencies and times.
>
>
yikes...actually caroline aiken is from atlanta instead of athens. and i
think the story goes that she had a steady gig at the little five points pub,
and when she moved to new york, suggested to the club owner that he give that
gig to the indigo girls.  she didn't own or operate the club.

is there anyone out there willing to tape this show for me?  if so, drop me
an e-mail. thanks.  bumbershoot bound...  :-)

rebecca

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc: "ecto-friendly?"
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              "sherlyn koo" at aug 30, 96 2:56 am

sherlyn writes:

> (condensed to highlight ecto-friendly artists)

i have to ask because i've seen a strong correlation between folks on
the irc channels #ecto and #indigo-girls.

who/what is ecto?  i gather its music related, but i know nothing more
than that.

any help would be apperciated!

                                thanks,

                                  chris

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date:         thu, 29 aug 1996 12:10:35 -0700
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subject:      lol
x-to:         juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.960829094223.7736a-100000@ipsscsc1.reading.ac.uk>

well, rather than replying individually to the 20 people who very nicely
told me what lol stands for, i'll say thank you all  at once, and no, it
didn't make me feel the least bit like a lol(w).  lol
man, i gotta get with the program!  thanks everyone!:)

oh, and juliet...rabbits on the fertile land

love, wendell

> rotfl!!!!!! (.....figure that one out wendell!!!)
>
> juliet.

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oh, and juliet...rabbits on the fertile land

love, wendell

> rotfl!!!!!! (.....figure that one out wendell!!!)
>
> juliet.

     oh man this had me way laughing out loud (my co-workers think i'm nuts
     now :) how about...running out to flip lamas :) or really obese
     trained flaming loones :):):) oh i think i need to go home!!! wait
     wait i have another one...no i must stop now!!!
     kira

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subject:      re: language or the kiss

           hi,
            the first thing that came to my mind when hearing the
         words from lotk was a contrast between a physical compatibility
         and a personality compatibility. having a lover that one can
         communicate with not just be attracted to is probably hard to
         come by. pj

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subject:      nigc: if i'm dubbing tapes for you...

sorry to post this to the entire list.

if i am dubbing "no curfews," newport 96, or atlanta pride for you:

please try to get your blanks in the mail by this weekend. i am moving in
about two weeks and i'd like to wrap up my dubbing at least a few days
before i leave. once i'm in my new digs (seattle :)  ) i'll re-offer the tapes.

branch bon

btw- has anyone on the list ever shipped his/her stuff by barge? i'm sending
my things from anchorage to seattle and i'm curious about pricing, safety
(will my things be h20 logged), etc.

and now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

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subject:      re: language or the kiss -reply

>>> wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>  8/29/96, 01:42pm >>>
"you know, i always thought lotk was about making a choice between
being a friend to someone or becoming romantically involved.  you t
alk with your friends, and you kiss your lovers.  ok, some people
kiss their frinds too, but i'm thinking symbolically.  but i guess
emily has said before, it is about being away from home.  i like the
broadness of it all though."

i hadn't thought of it that way.  i like how you explain the title
language or the kiss.  your interpretation does hold well, except the
opening lines sort of don't make the best sense in that context.

-j
wendell

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subject:      re: lol -reply (nigc)

really old tyrrants fleeing louisiana

-j

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subject:      re: lol

at 12:10 pm 8/29/96 -0700, you wrote:
>well, rather than replying individually to the 20 people who very nicely
>told me what lol stands for, i'll say thank you all  at once, and no, it
>didn't make me feel the least bit like a lol(w).  lol
>man, i gotta get with the program!  thanks everyone!:)
>
>oh, and juliet...rabbits on the fertile land
>
>love, wendell
>
>> rotfl!!!!!! (.....figure that one out wendell!!!)
>>
>> juliet.
>


lol!! ok, if y'all are so good, what about:

rotflgohaha

rotflgoktc

try them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there's more where that came from...

:o)
tiff

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subject:      re: language or the kiss

just my 2 bits worth:

i've always had a special place for this song just beause of the
first verse.  there are in fact six in my family as well and several
years ago my brother was in the hospital for cancer treatment -

       "stood outside and kept my eyes upon that empty chair"


go hug your family y'all :)

de

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subject:      folk world

okay, since technically folk world is in an almost theoretical type place,
i will give up on sequim.  sundara pouts.  but, how about if we can also
have an art section of folk world.  we could have an art supply store so we
can all have access to art supplies, and we could all show our art whenever
we wanted.  that would make me happy :) love sundara

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subject:      rotfl

rhubarb on toast for lunch
raunchy, outrageous tortoises flinging lettuce

anna

"we got egos like hairdos, they're different everyday
depending on how we slept the night before, depending
on the demons at our door."  - ani difranco

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on wed, 28 aug 1996 seaphish@aol.com wrote:

> verse.  any time i have ever seen any artist cover another artist it has
> always been out of respect for their music, and not as a goof.
>
> -sheri : )


in '90 i saw too much joy open for the go-go's and they did "we got the
beat", but sang "we beat the meat" throughout the entire song.  it was
pretty gross and offensive especially since they were opening for them.

not that that has an igc, but it's kind of funny in a bitter kind of way,
i guess.

have a great day,

carolyn

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jorge sanchez wrote:
>
> really old tyrrants fleeing louisiana
>
> -j

lol!!!!!!!

ripely obscure transvestites feeding leppers

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

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subject:      ctf :)

this song was my first... i love the lines about college! i see it
as a "rah, rah" song
also.... graduating college is a milestone... i am a teacher and
when i sing that song i feel like i am saying... i spent 4 years
listening to you tell me how to teach and now i finally have that
damn piece of paper that says, "ok now you are ready"... i got my
paper and i was free.... free to enter another stage of my life...
    i also think this song is really about religion.... emily grew
up in a christian home and maybe she struggled with the issue of
"will everyone who doesn't believe what i do really go to hell or
are there many paths to the top of the mountain" kinda thing. i
think she is trying to say this was a big struggle for her, but the
less she tries to fit it all into a tiny box....the better she
feels... i don't know. that's my opinion, of course, i could be
wrong. i just identify with emily a lot... seem to have a similar
upbringing, i am a cancer, i am a teacher, i am a musician... this
song has always spoken to me in that way.... whadda ya think? peace

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subject:      rotfl

raunchy outdoorsmen take feminism lightly

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subject:      2 kdlang tix atlanta 9/6

hi.

i have two tickets for kdlang at chastain park in atlanta on september
6th.  unfortunately, i will not be able to attend the show, so i am
offering them for sale.  they are left terrace, row l, seats 61 and 63.
face value is $29.50 each, so i am losing out on the ticketmaster fees by
asking $60 for the pair.  please contact me directly if you are interested.
thanks.

-greg
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subject:      songs b4 they were songs

hey!
what ever happened to this boot?
have i really been spaced out?  (probably...)
ant info?
thanx,
moe (simone)

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subject:      five random questions

helllllllllllllllllo,

here's a few questions/ponderings/whatnot that have been occupying my
brain lately, perhaps some of you can help me out here.

first, anybody type up the words to winthrop, kind friend, leeds, or it's
alright yet?  yes, yes, i've been too lazy to mail for a boot and wanna
read the lyrics.  ;)

second, any guitarists out there have tab to kristen hall's "it's alright"
by any chance?  been wanting to learn it but have been too lazy to do
_that_ properly as well. come to think of it, i _am_ feeling housebound
and lazy.  and my friends do think i'm going crazy. *grin*  and isn't
emily just _perfect_ on this song btw?

third, anyone else know the bbc show from the late 60's "the prisoner?"
i've been dying to see it lately, but can't find it in any video stores or
find it on cable.  anyone know if it'll be on cable soon, or any (dare i
say it) chain video stores (ow, that hurt!) that carry the series?
(orange alert! orange alert!)

fourth, for you econ majors, tell me if this is right.  according to our
current economic policies, this country tries to keep the economy from
"growing too quickly" i.e., we try to forestall inflation by making sure
that the number of jobs does not exceed the number of americans looking
for work.  so, by massaging the prime lending rate and what have you, we
try to keep a "reserve army of the unemployed" (as i heard one economist
call it) around to ensure a buyer's maket for labor.  translated into
english: we _try_hard_on_purpose_ to keep unemployment up around 5%
because we're scared there'd be rampant inflation if everyone had jobs.
and then we turn around and tell everyone on welfare that we're pulling
the plug on them after two years, so they'd better go find a job--when
we're intentionally _keeping_ those jobs from being _created_ to forestall
inflation!!!  okay, do i have this totally wrong, or is this whole line of
policy _seriously_messed_up_ and damning for those in poverty?!

fifth, i just learned where folk world is, and here's how to get there...
as leo buscaglia describes it, "in india, every time you meet or say
goodbye to somebody, you put your hands in front of you and say,
'namaste.' that means, 'i honor the place in you where the entire universe
resides.  i honor the place in you where, if you are at that place in you,
and i am at that place in me, there is only one of us.'"  the places
referred to by "namaste" and "folk world" are one and the same. =)

namaste

scot


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hey all,

i just got my sept./oct. utne reader and on page 10 there's a full-page ad
for the honor cd. at the top of the page is a small photo of a&e with a
quote by each.

amy's quote:
"honor the earth is not just another environmental cause. the basic issues
of human rights, justice and our own survival are at stake."

em's quote:
"in many ways, because of my appearances on the honor the earth tour, i am
beginning again, with a renewed respect for the earth and all of her gifts."

i know that the utne reader is involved in the hth campain, but still, it
was good to see that the cd is getting the media's attention.

that's all,
bon

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subject:      neil johnson, a real nice guy

sorry faithful listers, i just had to show you this flame...

on thursday, august 29, neil johnson writes:

>where the hell do you get off wasting space on this list to get in your
>personal fuck you shots to people.  doin't waste my time you can't plan
>your finanaces incompotent moron.

neil,
where did you learn such lovely grammar and spelling?  it truely must be a
gift!

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subject:      re: bumbershoot

hope ya'll are ready to shoot the bumber!   i think sundara posted the other
day that we'll meet by the space needle after the ig bumbershoot show, then
possibly go to the rosebud espresso place...directions to the rosebud are as
follows:  from the space needle, go to denny way (take the street in front of
the stadium where the concert is--damn, i'm not sure the name of it-- south
to get to denny) and turn left/east on denny (up the hill) toward the capitol
hill neighborhood...after you go over the freeway (i-5), keep going up the
hill...there is a stoplight by a supercuts and a hamburger mary's where denny
crosses olive way...keep going on denny up the hill (if you screw up and take
olive, that's ok, too!).  when you get to broadway, take a right...so you'll
be going south on broadway to pike (it's the street after pine)...turn right
on pike and go about 1 1/4 block...the rosebud is on the left (south side of
the street).  street/parallel parking is about all that's available and
sometimes it takes a little while to get a space---there are some
bars/taverns on that block, and not tons of spaces.  the rosebud has tables
as well as couches, easy chairs...and they serve beer/wine as well as the
standard seattle list of coffee things...hope these directions make
sense...i'll clarify if necessary when we get to the concert or the space
needle!  see you there!

-ruth

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subject:      hte benefit at the supper club

greetings all in indigo land!

just picked up the 'honor' cd today, after searching stores for a week!

i love it!  'blood quantum' is so powerful.  it's great to hear the studio
version, no crowd chatter or obnoxious screams for a and e like on boots.
though, it is much more subdued than live performances, kind of like bmhawk
is on 1200cc.

about the hte benefit at the supper club, i wish there was a way to make
a smaller donation and just get in to see the performances.  oh well, i
guess this is one event that i will have to miss.

if you call the 1-800-earth-07 number and leave a voice mail asking for
info about the benefit and hte you just might get a package in the mail
a week later like i did.  i got a cool coffee mug with the 'honor' album
cover on it and a little bag of coffee in it, as well as info about and
an invitation/donation sheet for the sept. 19th show in nyc.  i was really
touched that i got something from hte, really nice.  although i can't
afford the $250 for the benefit, i will definately contribute more to the
hte fund as thanks for being so generous.

a few more notes on "blood quantum", amy's voice sounds so much softer and
delicate, yet strong.  i like it :)!  also, i am curious to know who wrote
which lines or if they really sat down and totally collaborated on the
whole thing.  i am very impressed with their co-writing, and although it
will probably not happen again, would enjoy hearing more songs written
together.

i also picked up 'sweet releif ii' and love it all, esp. ig!

yeah right, they took a year off to chill out.  sure doesn't look like
it seeing all the great work that is coming out now, including all the
rockin' new songs and the demo-tour.

rock on girls!

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      rotfl!!! (nigc) you guys are all warped!!

wow  - what are you lot on!!!! your suggestions for rotfl:

-  rabbits on the fertile land - wendell lee
-  running out to flip lamas -  kira raichart
-  really obese trained flaming loones - kira raichart
-  really old tyrrants fleeing louisiana - jorge sanchez
-  rhubarb on toast for lunch - anna
-  raunchy, outrageous tortoises flinging lettuce -  anna
-  ripely obscure transvestites feeding leppers - chris payne
-  raunchy outdoorsmen take feminism lightly - dimitra j gianas

....hmmmm...those men in white coats will be paying each and every one of
you a visit soon!!!! i'm a particular fan of kira's llama reference
though  -  does this happen often kira (and how far can ya flip one)???!!

i'm gonna go sit somewhere quiet for a while til my sides stop hurting!!

juliet.

<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>

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subject:      ctf =)

this is the song. i remember watching the vid on mtv and i fell in
love with their music...it captured me. i havent, nor will i be the
same. it is a classic struggle of where did i come from? how was the
earth made? it is about how we should all just quit worrying about the
past and enjoy the now. it is a feel-good fun song that is one of my
faves. have a groovi day....kel
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when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast... (indigo girls)

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subject:      anybody getting this?

i've sent out two posts in the last two days and both times i've gotten error
messages...is anybody out there hearing me?
is it possible to get booted from the list?
~~robin

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date:         fri, 30 aug 1996 11:21:41 edt
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subject:      jules knopf, read this (nigc)

hey jules, give me an email please. thanks-

susan marine
coordinator,
sexual abuse awareness program
dartmouth college
(603) 650-1430
email: susan.marine@dartmouth.edu

"now i know that a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand and a thoughtful pose...
gotta tend to the earth if you want a rose"
                                        - emily saliers

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subject:      rotfl...the best! this one rules!

--- dimitra wrote:
raunchy outdoorsmen take feminism lightly
--- end of quoted material ---
that one takes it.

i personally like

religious octogenarians tasting fruit loops

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subject:      cara mia

hi all...

does anyone have the lyrics (lol--lyrics on line!!)   to cara mia?  i really
like it,   but i can't understand all the words.  thanks!

amy

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subject:      private mail

on most of the lists i'm on, including the one that i administer, there are
rules against posting private mail to the list (just to emphasize what is
generally considered proper netiquette). is that not the case here?  jude?

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in-reply-to:  <960830110201_512952803@emout12.mail.aol.com>

on fri, 30 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:

> i've sent out two posts in the last two days and both times i've gotten error
> messages...is anybody out there hearing me?
> is it possible to get booted from the list?
> ~~robin

if you read the messages carefully, you'll see that the error messages are
from problems delivering to individual users on the list, not the list itself.

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hey sundara!!!....
hi list members!!!

i got my copy of the watershed video from my local tower records...hmv
also has it, so does newbury comics...you should be able to order it
from a local music video place near you...@=d

take care, jen

on tue, 27 aug 1996 11:54:36 -0700 smurphy@ups.edu writes:
>okay, i am now sufficiently jealous. i have been wondering this for a
>while, but have been too lazy to ask.  where can i get the watershed
>video?
>thanks:)  love sundara
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subject:      lynn/linda listee at nff

hey all,
did i miss lynn/linda's (the listee who was on stage with the girls at
newport) post?  if so, could someone re-post or e-mail me a copy?  if not,
what's up girl?  we wanna know what it was like (good for you!).
maria

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subject:      what is she waiting for?????

okay, i have a question....

i am listening to least complicated and i just wondered if anyone had any
insight into the line "a boy and girl are holding hands on the street...and
i dont want to, but i think you just wait."  i have always wondered what
other people thought that line meant, i always figured it had something to
do with coming out publicly.  emily always seems so much more private about
things like her sexuality, especially in light of amy's outspokenness, and
maybe this is a reflection of that.  any thoughts?  anyone?  bueller?
bueller?


bye-ee
amy

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subject:      re: what is she waiting for?????

okay, i have a question....

i am listening to least complicated and i just wondered if anyone had any
insight into the line "a boy and girl are holding hands on the street...and i
dont want to, but i think you just wait."  i have always wondered what other
people thought that line meant, i always figured it had something to do with
coming out publicly.


     hmmmm, i agree. there are a few more lines in the song that give it
     that sort of twist:

     "some long ago when we were taught
     that for whatever kind of puzzle you got
     you just stick the right formula in
     a solution for every fool"

     society has this puzzle (per se) and all the norms had it that you go
     to school, go to college, get married...blah blah blah...i was
     married...hell everyone was doing it! oh wow was i young!!! and now i
     realize that being who i am today (big o' dyke..hahaha just kidding,
     kinda) wasn't the exact puzzle peice that everyone else was fitting
     into. i guess i fell into the fool thing for a while there (for me
     that is :) hey i'm blonde, give me a break ;>

     and...

     "so i just sit up in the house and resist
     and not be seen until i cease to exist
     a kind of conscientious objection
     a kind of dodging the draft"

     sounds like she was afraid to face, maybe, what was going on inside
     her head???

     phew, ok enough kinda deepness for today...

     kira (off to flip some llamas <---that was just for you juliet :):):)

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subject:      touch me fall

well, it's been a little slow today, so i though i would share this quote
from amy in this article that i found <from the lifeblood pages on the
web.> i remember a while ago people were trying to decide whether this
song was about sex, or hair, or baldness, or something like that, and
this is what amy said when someone asked her what the meaning of tmf was
<and i apologize if this has been posted already>

ar: "it is very abstract. i don't think it is easy to understand the
meaning of it because i don't really either. i just kind of let it all
come out. it is sort of about decomposition in general. decomposition of
love, life, and fame. everything. it is the beauty of decomposition and i
am tying it into the fall, meaning the season."

i don't know about you all, but i never thought of "fall" as referring to
the season; i always thought it meant falling down. has everyone else
already thought of this?

btw, in the same interview, which was from april 1994, emily says, when
asked what music she was listening to lately, "i am really into queen
latifah. i love her strength."

thought that was kinda funny...

peace,
amy

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subject:      bumbershoot...ig...30 hours and counting...

just ten minutes from my house...happiness.
i will be trying to meet up with sunandra in the stadium at 11am.  i will
be wearing my black daemon tshirt and i have long red hair.  i'll probably
have some flannel tied around my waist (in the spirit of boy scouts:
always be prepared).

was anyone else (tangent alert) shocked by madonna's sound on "guilty by
association" off sweet relief ii??  i hardly recognize her.  it sounds
great, though.

back to b-shoot: is someone gonna tape the vic-vic-catie set? (i think
they are all playing together)  please say someone will boot it! coz i
have to work that day; unless they play after 4:30, and even then i still
prolly won't make it.  :(

gotta-get cds: sting "mercury falling", pearl jam "no code" (kudos on the
title, boys).  they rock!

*************************************************************************
"ha ha, and ho ho, and hee hee" --"the chink", even cowgirls get the blues
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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subject:      re: touch me fall
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well, that is certainly a twist i had not thought of.  i always thought
she ment "falling" as well...and in the song i think she's playing on that
(if i stumble i will stumble/if i fall i will fall)  thanks for the
missing piece, hrh minerva.  this is ringing some bells for me now, as i
am doing a lot of work in my yard and especially organizing my compost
pile to speed the break-down.  anytime you say "decomposition" i
immediately think of cycles, death leading to life, how matter is neither
created nor destroyed.  amy is right, it is beautiful.

as i keep reading the lyrics over and over with this in mind, it seems she
is taking a sort of existential stand on life: come with me it's not
worth it if you don't/are you hiding i am hiding...jump so high, watch me
let you down/if i stumble i wil stumble...and so be it.  because we're all
worm food anyway.  am i missing something more here?

and this is a great line:
i'm trying to hold it like rain in a river, everything is getting bigger,
better--
this won't last forever; touch me, fall.  (inflection added)

a sig line is born!!

thanks for the post, minerva.

on fri, 30 aug 1996, queen minerva wrote:

> well, it's been a little slow today, so i though i would share this quote
> from amy in this article that i found <from the lifeblood pages on the
> web.> i remember a while ago people were trying to decide whether this
> song was about sex, or hair, or baldness, or something like that, and
> this is what amy said when someone asked her what the meaning of tmf was
> <and i apologize if this has been posted already>
>
> ar: "it is very abstract. i don't think it is easy to understand the
> meaning of it because i don't really either. i just kind of let it all
> come out. it is sort of about decomposition in general. decomposition of
> love, life, and fame. everything. it is the beauty of decomposition and i
> am tying it into the fall, meaning the season."
>
> i don't know about you all, but i never thought of "fall" as referring to
> the season; i always thought it meant falling down. has everyone else
> already thought of this?
>
> btw, in the same interview, which was from april 1994, emily says, when
> asked what music she was listening to lately, "i am really into queen
> latifah. i love her strength."
>
> thought that was kinda funny...
>
> peace,
> amy
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subject:      re: what is she waiting for?????

hello,

well, this is only my opinion, of course, but i always just heard it =
this way.... you just wait...there's more than just eye to eye, learn =
the things i could never apply...meaning this: the boy and girl are =
young, holding hands, tra-la-la - they are the picture of young love. =
and what is young love? foolish, innocent, naive and unaware of all that =
love will be. the joy, of course, but also the pain, despair and =
confusion. there's more to it than just holding hands and being =
googie-eyed. i see that line as a kind warning to the kids.

whew!

i am not accustomed to sharing my interpretations with others, i just =
listen to the words, dig them and enjoy the music, but my girlfriend =
really wanted me to comment. we have found, in the last couple of weeks =
since joining this list, that we often have very different =
interpretations of lyrics, or even just mishear the words all together! =
we've been together almost 8 years now and i had no idea jocelyn had a =
hearing problem! :) for example, from the cover tangled up in blue - she =
heard - i lived then on a mighty good street! - did ya now? hmmmm. :) =
maybe this intense study of ig's work will make my sweetie and i even =
closer. the indigo girls 4-week plan for a better relationship. cool!

all for now - i'm feeling woogie cause i was taught never to speak to =
strangers,

peace!

susan

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=3d+=3d+=3d=3d=3d+++=3d=3d=3d+++=3d=3d=3d+++=3d=3d=3d+=3d+=3d++

i'm gonna love you good and strong while our love is good and young! - =
get out the map (es)

cut it out - i'm tender! - (ar)

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from:   krisko, amy[smtp:kriska@emdpos4b.daytonoh.ncr.com]
sent:   friday, august 30, 1996 1:48 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        what is she waiting for?????

okay, i have a question....

i am listening to least complicated and i just wondered if anyone had =
any
insight into the line "a boy and girl are holding hands on the =
street...and
i dont want to, but i think you just wait."  i have always wondered what
other people thought that line meant, i always figured it had something =
to
do with coming out publicly.  emily always seems so much more private =
about
things like her sexuality, especially in light of amy's outspokenness, =
and
maybe this is a reflection of that.  any thoughts?  anyone?  bueller?
bueller?


bye-ee
amy

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date:         fri, 30 aug 1996 18:09:56 -0400
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from:         karey eals <jgolin4870@aol.com>
subject:      nigc small bandwidth waste, sorry

elaine, my fellow laura love fan, please email me here at jgolin4870@aol.com!
thanks,
karey
(usually known as karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>

ps-everybody rock extra hard for me at bumbershoot.  i'm there with you in
spirit!

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subject:      re: in defense of auctions....

>to: "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
>from: jones <jdjones@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: in defense of auctions....
>
>at 04:44 pm 8/27/96 edt, you wrote:
>>--- you wrote:
>>on tue, 27 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> once again i am offering an autographed item for sale...
>>
>>> this particular poster is from the show on tuesday may 4, 1993 at the
>>> tupperware convention center in kissimee, fl.  i had access to backstage and
>>> was able to catch-up with both of the girls, and they signed it.
>>
>>and deb replied:
>>
>>and i'm sure they'd be thrilled to know that you are now auctioning it off on
>>the list.  that's the kind of thing that makes performers stop letting fans
>>backstage, and signing autographs, and i can't say that i blame them.
>>--- end of quoted material ---
>>
>>hey, we don't know what (if any) dire straits mary might be in, so lets give
>>her a break, huh? maybe she is struggling huge financially...we've all been
>>there...i don't have very much that's valuable, but i do have a few ig things
>>which might be my next meal someday. misfortune happens to all of us.
let's not
>>jump to conclusions, huh?
>>
>>peace-
>>susan
>>
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>>just wanted to second susan on this one. i have been there and if it comes
down to the rent or feeding the kids, etc, you do what you have to.

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subject:      re: another item for sale...

>x-authentication-warning: explorer2.clark.net: indigo owned process doing -bs
>x-sender: indigo@explorer2
>date:  wed, 28 aug 1996 11:46:35 -0400
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>from: deb <indigo@clark.net>
>subject:      re: another item for sale...
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>
>on tue, 27 aug 1996 atlmouse@aol.com wrote:
>
>> welcome to the list of people who've flamed me today!!!!
>> have you also flamed perry at rainy day records for selling autographs?
>> why don't you give him a call...
>
>as far as i know, perry doesn't pose as a fan to get autographs, and he sells
>them at a reasonable, set price.
>
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maybe she wasn't planning on having to sell it. circumstances can change you
know.

the other deb

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subject:      the language or the kiss

okay we've been talking about his so much i found i wanted to play it and low
and behold adam schneider's page is underwraps.  does anyone have the
chords/tab?

michelle

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subject:      i must kill nordberg

sorry so pokey, but here it is:

> i saw a woman at newport with a hat that said "girls rule"...
> would anyone have any remote idea where i could get one?

was the hat black with white stitching, and did it
bear the faint smell of cinnamon?  the wearer was
none other than the pyt!  she wheedled the hat from
an 8th grader, who bought it at "the fashion bug".

hope that helps!

i-girl

ps, greg flamer wore the hat too (long after the
cinnamon unpleasantness).

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subject:      help

i have no idea if this will get to the list, but i have been unable to
resubscribe, after numerous attempts.  help anybody!  e-mail me with
with any tips...

bummed beyond belief,
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connecticut

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subject:      closer to fine

  my other post didn't work so i'll try again and be brief... i
feel that ctf is about struggling with absolutes in a religious
context... i see it as reaching that questioning of "is there
really only one true path?"  or are there many paths to the top of
the mountain?  i have related to this song immensly!!(sp?)  and
when i finally stopped trying to fit it all into a tiny little box
that i could comprehend, the closer i was to fine!! :) yeah!

the heart and the mind on a parallel course- never the two shall
meet....peace

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 28 aug 1996 to 30 aug 1996 - special
              issue

>
>date:    fri, 30 aug 1996 09:32:41 +0100
>from:    juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
>subject: rotfl!!! (nigc) you guys are all warped!!
>
>wow  - what are you lot on!!!! your suggestions for rotfl:
>
>-  rabbits on the fertile land - wendell lee
>-  running out to flip lamas -  kira raichart
>-  really obese trained flaming loones - kira raichart
>-  really old tyrrants fleeing louisiana - jorge sanchez
>-  rhubarb on toast for lunch - anna
>-  raunchy, outrageous tortoises flinging lettuce -  anna
>-  ripely obscure transvestites feeding leppers - chris payne
>-  raunchy outdoorsmen take feminism lightly - dimitra j gianas
>
>....hmmmm...those men in white coats will be paying each and every one of
>you a visit soon!!!! i'm a particular fan of kira's llama reference
>though  -  does this happen often kira (and how far can ya flip one)???!!
>
>i'm gonna go sit somewhere quiet for a while til my sides stop hurting!!
>
>juliet.
>
><http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>
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how about a vote????

hugs,
deb j.

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****hello,

*well, this is only my opinion, of course, but i always just heard it =
*this way.... you just wait...there's more than just eye to eye, learn =
*the things i could never apply...meaning this: the boy and girl are =
*young, holding hands, tra-la-la - they are the picture of young love. =
*and what is young love? foolish, innocent, naive and unaware of all that
=
*love will be. the joy, of course, but also the pain, despair and =
*confusion. there's more to it than just holding hands and being =
*googie-eyed. i see that line as a kind warning to the kids.

*whew!

this is how i always felt about those lines myself
"just you wait and see!"

gynergy

>from our children to our elders, from all nations we will rise
may respect for all our differences ,enhance our common ties
we will rise like the ocean , we will rise like the sun
we will rise all together, we will rise
pat humphries "common threads"

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subject:      thanks...

just wanted to thank all of you for an entertaining three months...i
joined the list back in june and it's been lovely...tomorrow i'm leaving
for my freshman year of school up in chicago, big change from my life in
st. louis...anyway, i just wanted to say that the people on this list
are great and thanks for having me...i hope to rejoin on breaks but i
won't have email in my room...i'm rambling...anyway, thanks,
tricia---gwen@mo.net

turns out not where but who you're with that really matters-dmb

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subject:      songs+leastcomplicated

geez i haven't written to the list in a while...but its great to see
the songs-thread come back...there are so many different
interpretations out there...and so many songs to talk about...i
bought the ep and more cd a few weeks back...major expense of the
year, but well worth it :) so while all you guys are being treated to
ig-heaven and hearing loads of new tunes, i'm still catching up on
the *really-old* stuff!!!!  and loving every minute of it!...so if
y'all get short of songs from their main releases, can we discuss
songs of pre-sf/ig days......just a thought :)
onto least complicated...aka nanananananana...i always figured
this song was about the fact that when you're younger, you get like
a template given to you by your family, covering things like...will
meet nice young man...will get married...will be successful...will
have children...will have nice house etc etc...and then as you grow
up you start things change and you realise that things really aren't
that simple at all, but somehow there's a deeper need within you
to one day fit into the template even though you know it really
isn't right for you...so what was once the least complicated
then becomes the hardest to learn...i guess...mmm...now
that i'm singing the words in my head...whats happening when...

i sit 2 stories above the street...its awful quiet here since love
fell asleep...theres light down below me now...the kids are walking
home from school...

so...has someone she loved died/left her, or are they in the same room as her,
but actually asleep while she sits at the window looking out onto the
street...and the light...is that youth itself...ooh...it only becomes
complicated when you start to think about it...thats kind of the
answer in itself...you know, like i love this song and it always
seemed such a straight forward song, but then starting to question it
reveals complexity...mmm...must ponder more...

thats all for now from a muddled one!
talk to y'all later
love helene

"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
coleraine bt52 1sa
northern ireland
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subject:      sotw: closer to fine

"i'm trying to tell you something about my life
maybe give me insight between black and white
and the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously
it's only life after all"

i think that at this point she's talking to a friend.  probably
someone she has know for a very long time.  this friend has a
different outlook on life and tends to be more relaxed than emily.

"well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable
and lightness has a call that's hard to hear
i wrap my fear around me like a blanket
i sailed my ship of safety till i sank it
i'm crawling on your shores"

i think of darkness as loneliness.  when you're alone, unless it's by
choice, you are filled with a desire to be with someone else.  that
desire for companionship is like a light shining the path.  she is
afraid to give into the need because it means giving up her secure
position and embracing the trust of a relationship.  finally, she
gives in and returns to the friend she needed.

"i went to the doctor, i went to the mountains
i looked to the children, i drank from the fountains
there's more than one answer to these questions
pointing me in a crooked line
and the less i seek my source for some definitive
the closer i am to fine"

she had looked everywhere for an answer to the questions that plagued
her mind, but either she couldn't find the one she was looking for,
or she couldn't find the right one.  so, when she went back to that
friend, she found stability.

"and i went to see the doctor of philosophy
with a poster of rasputin and a beard down to his knee
he never did marry or see a b-grade movie
he graded my performance, he said he could see through me
i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind
got my paper and i was free"

she left this friend for a while to go to college.  in college, she
learned a lot of higher thinking, but the answers she sought were not
there.  so, she did what she had to do to graduate, and then left.

"i stopped by the bar at 3 a.m.
to seek solace in a bottle or possibly a friend
and i woke up with a headache like my head against a board
twice as cloudy as i'd been the night before
and i went in seeking clarity."

in desperation, she starts drinking.  later, she realizes that this
doesn't do her any good, and perhaps does some harm.

i don't know what this verse by verse interpretation has to say,
except that this song seems to be about a life journey we all take to
find answers to the questions inside of ourselves.

anna

"we got egos like hairdos, they're different everyday
depending on how we slept the night before, depending
on the demons at our door."  - ani difranco

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reply-to:     bob johnson <bjohnson@wolfe.net>
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from:         bob johnson <bjohnson@wolfe.net>
subject:      re watershed video

i have had watershed video for almost a year!!!!(and well worth getting a
copy!)  available, along with lots of other great stuff, from ladyslipper,
in durham, nc.  for orders call 1-800-634-6044 m-f 9-8, sat 11-5, eastern
time.  for general info, call 919-383-8773, same hours.
                                            becky/bob

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subject:      re: neil johnson, a real nice guy
x-to:         atlmouse@aol.com
in-reply-to:  your message of "fri, 30 aug 1996 00:59:32 edt."
              <960830001427_190854128@emout08.mail.aol.com>

while i agree that the mail you received may have been rude, that does
not excuse posting private email to the list.  it is completely
inappropriate and should not be done without the permission of the
sender.

    -jude, list owner

atlmouse@aol.com writes:
> sorry faithful listers, i just had to show you this flame...
>
> on thursday, august 29, neil johnson writes:
>
> >where the hell do you get off wasting space on this list to get in your
> >personal fuck you shots to people.  doin't waste my time you can't plan
> >your finanaces incompotent moron.
>
> neil,
> where did you learn such lovely grammar and spelling?  it truely must be a
> gift!
>
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date:         sat, 31 aug 1996 14:10:55 -0500
reply-to:     jorge sanchez <jsanch@wpo.it.luc.edu>
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from:         jorge sanchez <jsanch@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject:      sotw: closer to fine -reply

chickensoprano:

you know, emily did leave amy for a while.  emily originally went to
tulane university in new orleans, while amy was finishing up high
school in atlanta.

<<< chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>  8/31/96, 12:09pm >>>
"i'm trying to tell you something about my life
maybe give me insight between black and white
and the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously
it's only life after all"

i think that at this point she's talking to a friend.  probably
someone she has know for a very long time.  this friend has a
different outlook on life and tends to be more relaxed than emily.

"well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable
and lightness has a call that's hard to hear
i wrap my fear around me like a blanket
i sailed my ship of safety till i sank it
i'm crawling on your shores"

i think of darkness as loneliness.  when you're alone, unless it's by
choice, you are filled with a desire to be with someone else.  that
desire for companionship is like a light shining the path.  she is
afraid to give into the need because it means giving up her secure
position and embracing the trust of a relationship.  finally, she
gives in and returns to the friend she needed.

"i went to the doctor, i went to the mountains
i looked to the children, i drank from the fountains
there's more than one answer to these questions
pointing me in a crooked line
and the less i seek my source for some definitive
the closer i am to fine"

she had looked everywhere for an answer to the questions that plagued
her mind, but either she couldn't find the one she was looking for,
or she couldn't find the right one.  so, when she went back to that
friend, she found stability.

"and i went to see the doctor of philosophy
with a poster of rasputin and a beard down to his knee
he never did marry or see a b-grade movie
he graded my performance, he said he could see through me
i spent four years prostrate to the higher mind
got my paper and i was free"

she left this friend for a while to go to college.  in college, she
learned a lot of higher thinking, but the answers she sought were not
there.  so, she did what she had to do to graduate, and then left.

"i stopped by the bar at 3 a.m.
to seek solace in a bottle or possibly a friend
and i woke up with a headache like my head against a board
twice as cloudy as i'd been the night before
and i went in seeking clarity."

in desperation, she starts drinking.  later, she realizes that this
doesn't do her any good, and perhaps does some harm.

i don't know what this verse by verse interpretation has to say,
except that this song seems to be about a life journey we all take to
find answers to the questions inside of ourselves.

anna

"we got egos like hairdos, they're different everyday
depending on how we slept the night before, depending
on the demons at our door."  - ani difranco

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date:         sat, 31 aug 1996 22:19:48 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      honor

i just got my copy today and all i can say is wow! this album is such an
incredible work and i am totally in awe of everything the honor the earth
campaign has done and is doing. having just listened to the album, i
personally am feeling quite insignificant and outraged--at both myself and
the world for doing so little to help indiginous peoples. blood quantum is
beyond amazing, imho. it's message is extremely powerful and it shows such
astounding growth in amy and emily's songwriting and music. i didn't think
we'd see the day when the two would collaborate on a song again, and this
shows that when put together, their creative talents can result in something
_extremely_ different from "if you live like that." (sorry in advance if
i've offended any huge fans of iyllt!) anywaze, just had to let y'all know
that this cd is absolutely worth buying. i got it for $14.99 at my favorite
music store and that's a price that's hard to beat when you're talking about
a double cd, especially one of this calibur...

                     ~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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