lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-09d


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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:10:49 -0600
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      hte

i want to listen to ig. what is all this political stuff?:)

deb

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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:29:42 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      they're on!

wow! they're on! they're really on! this is so cool! get out the map, go em!!!!
whoohooo! yeah!


~abigail (barely containing herself!)
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:29:50 -0600
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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subject:      take a good shot baby...

oooh...i liked that addition to the song! how cool.

deb

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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:39:28 -0500
reply-to:     arbatson@hsutx.edu
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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subject:      re: they're on!
x-to:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>

they"re talking to us!! oh my gosh :-) least complicated

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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:41:09 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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subject:      virtual ig message (from concert)

well guys, emily just said:

"there's people listening on computers too, heeeellllo computer land!...it
took  me two days to figure out how to turn my computer on, save everything!"

yyeeeaah!


~abigail
****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         fri, 20 sep 1996 23:45:47 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: virtual ig message (from concert)

oops, that was "two weeks" not days! sorry 'bout the misquote!

at 11:41 pm 9/20/96 -0500, you wrote:
>well guys, emily just said:
>
>"there's people listening on computers too, heeeellllo computer land!...it
>took  me two days to figure out how to turn my computer on, save everything!"
>
>yyeeeaah!
>
>
>~abigail
>****************in the words of emily saliers:******************
>
>"there i am in younger days
>stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
>of how my life and love would be
>not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
>my compass, faith in love's perfection
>i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"
>
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****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 00:49:29 -0400
reply-to:     mhom@uakron.edu
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from:         mhom@uakron.edu
subject:      re: a and e smoking

>i don't want this to come off as a flame but you really need to check
>your facts.  granted, pot does cause lung damage when chronically
>used/abused.  however, alcohol (a poison on all accounts) damages
>livers, kidneys, and causes all sorts of damage but we as a society
>still insist on condoning its use.

if you refer to my post, i included the liver disease, cirrhosis, as an
effect of alcohol. as a society, we may condone its use, but i personally do
not.  i do not condemn anyone for their use of anything, until the use
becomes excessive.  the drugs that are the topic of this discussion are
extraneous to the functions of your body...they are simply unnecessary poisons.


alcohol poisons your brain.  that's
>a simple fact.  most of the psychoactive components in pot actually work
>on a lock and key mechanism in the brain whereas thc binds to a receptor
>site in the brain and the body releases it as the thc is decomposed
>through a natural process.  it is strongly suggested that the stupidity
>factor involved with pot smoking are actually caused by  secondary
>components less common in today's higher quality pot .

so, todays higher quality pot is not harmful?

>you've got to be kidding me if you think that joan baez, bob dylan
>(who's current incoherent state is largely caused by alcohol), and the
>rest of the revolutionary singers of the 60's didn't and still don't
>smoke pot occasionally.

oh, i know they did...but i wasn't refering to them when i posted my post.
i was referring to ig.  i am well aware of the drug use among 1960's era
musicians, but i limited my response to pertain to my surprise at hearing
that ig smoked pot.

>i just don't see how fan's of pop culture icons who shower their idols
>with respect and admiration instantly assume that these people have a
>lilly-white lifestyle. it's amy and emily's prerogative to do whatever
>they want.

lilly-white lifestyle, no.  but my perception of them seemed to indicate
that they didn't use drugs.  obviously i was wrong.  they don't sing
explicitly about sex, drugs, or anything else of the sort like some other
bands do...plus, their politics are very unselfish and un-self-serving, so i
guess it was wrong of me to presume anything about their drug use.  they
just didn't strike me that way.

i cannot emphasize it strongly enough that if were familiar
>with the underground drug community (only due to draconian drug laws),
>you would be shocked at who smoked pot.  it's evident in their lyrics.

probably.


i'm not impressed by the achievements of other pot smokers.  i still think
that it is harmful to one's health, whether as a direct or indirect result
of drug use.  i just think that a & e have alot to contribute to society and
would like to see them live out their lives to the fullest without it being
cut short.  that's my primary concern about their drug use.


>the bottom line is that use does not equal abuse and even the ama admits
>that occasional use of alcohol or pot is not harmful.  it may even be
>beneficial.

true.  i have never stated, and do not state now that use is a bad
thing...just not for me. though non-abuse of alcohol or pot may not directly
affect your health...think about how many times you've seen drunk/stoned
people do some really risky things, which sometimes result in injury...this
is an example of indirect health harm caused by pot and alcohol.

it is absolutely clear that any drug is not completely
>safe.  even drinking too much water results in intoxication.  the point
>is that if you are going to make such blanket statements, please check
>out the facts.  it is rare that any argument is so one sidedly valid as
>the drug issue is presented.

i don't recall making blanket statements, but if they were interpreted as
such, then i apologize.  i merely expressed my personal opinion in my
original post, as i do here.  my opinion is based on facts construed with
personal beliefs.  i know that reasonable people will differ and that's
expected, but that's what makes people interesting.


>get all the facts together and then decide for yourself.  it sounds like
>amy and emily have.

i have.  i express only surprise at their drug use...i do not condemn them
for it.  after all, it's their life, not mine, and i have no influence over
that.  but, if it were my kids...that would be a completely different story!

your comments are much appreciated, ron...thanks for taking the time:)

-martha

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 00:08:12 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      touring

emily just said "we start touring in the spring."

they also added that there will be a big honor the earth tour in the summer!


~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 03:05:20 +0000
reply-to:     jeff & kirsten <bull@unixg.ubc.ca>
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from:         jeff & kirsten <bull@unixg.ubc.ca>
subject:      honour

eerie....just before bmhawk started i started getting the opening
chords in my head.  am i tuned into ig or what?  shit, i just got cut
off again, right in the middle of bmhawk :-(

kirsten in van

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 02:03:08 -0400
reply-to:     amy staples <astaples@email.unc.edu>
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from:         amy staples <astaples@email.unc.edu>
subject:      re: honour
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in-reply-to:  <199609210514.waa17608@unixg.ubc.ca>

i also got cut off during bury my heart.  in general it was a pretty cool
experience, being able to listen to them live even though they're a couple
thousand miles away.  i liked the addition to don't give that girl a gun
too.  did they play anything after bury my heart?

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 01:16:18 -0500
reply-to:     arbatson@hsutx.edu
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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subject:      re: honour
x-to:         amy staples <astaples@email.unc.edu>

i got cut off in bury my heart at wounded knee, too.

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 01:17:41 -0500
reply-to:     lawyerman <eml@sky.net>
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subject:      ig minneapolis set list 9/20/96

i returned from the minneapolis concert. here is the ig set list for
the 9/20/96 minneapolis honor the earth show. the new songs, to which i
don't know the titles, are in quotes. if you know the real titles, feel
free to fill in the blanks.

1. reunion
2. "get out the map"
3. don't give that girls a gun
4. least complicated
5. "hey kind friend"
6. "it's alright"
7. shame on you
8. blood quantam
9. galileo
10. bury my heart at wounded knee

did anyone catch the show on realaudio? was it in the new ra 3.0 format?
did they broadcast the whole 4 hour 45 minute concert?

if anyone has copy copy of this concert, either from the venue or the
realaudio broadcast, i'd sure like to trade with you. i regret not having
taped the show, even though i had seats near enogh to the speakers to get
good sound.

eddie

lawyerman's world wide web page | calendar of kansas city area music
http://www.sky.net/~eml/        | http://www.sky.net/~eml/kcmusic.html

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 04:43:33 -0400
reply-to:     mmedido@aol.com
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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: honor the earth

indigo shmindigo...

i saw the seattle mariners embarrass the oakland a's tonight !

(bitter !)

binky (o well..maybe next time :)
p.s. hey atlanta ! see you at the world series !!!!!!!!!!

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 08:23:40 -0400
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      hte show last night.....any boots made of it?

greetings to all in indigo land!

well, i can say that i am truly jealous of everyone who got to listen
to the show last night (my good computer bit the dust recently), but
i am glad that y'all were able to get hooked up and enjoyed the show.
this leads to the question, did anyone tape this off their computers
or from the concert itself?  i would love a chance to hear it.  please
let us know if anyone did.  thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 08:38:42 -0500
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: ig minneapolis set list 9/20/96

>did anyone catch the show on realaudio? was it in the new ra 3.0 format?
>did they broadcast the whole 4 hour 45 minute concert?

the broadcast cut off right at 7:30 and we didn't get back on until about
9:00. earlier though, i listened in to amy's sound check which was really
cool -- i felt like i was in on a private little show. as far as the feed,
it was transmitted 14.4 so my t1 line proved to be useless. it was also
broadcast in mono according to my ra 3.0 player. i'd say the sound quality
was good to fair (can other list member offer their opinions?). it just
seemed to be a little "warped". the good thing is that you didn't hear any
crowd noise (at times i wondered if there was a crowd) so i'll finally be
able to get  the lyrics down to "hey kind friend" :)

>if anyone has copy copy of this concert, either from the venue or the
>realaudio broadcast, i'd sure like to trade with you. i regret not having
>taped the show, even though i had seats near enogh to the speakers to get
>good sound.

i taped it off the computer and would be willing  to set up a tree
providing i get some help (hey dwayne buddy pal!). i suppose it depends if
someone got a better tape from the audience.

deb

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 09:47:28 -0500
reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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subject:      new lyrics -- dgtgag

best i can make out, here are the new lines that amy added last night to
"don't give that girl a gun". for those who didn't catch the show this part
comes (for the first time) after the verse that ends with "she don't
believe in a miracle mile". she then goes into the chorus (so technically
this would be a bridge, right?).  it's repeated a second time in between
the repeats of the chorus towards the end of the song. it makes the song
even more powerful (and, in a way, more sad):

      take the first shot baby it'll be real clean
       i'm your girl, strong and mean.
      take the second shot baby it'll be real cold
       because i'm your foe.

(the second she repeats "i'm your for, i'm your foe, i'm your foe" before
going into the chorus)

that is all!

deb

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 11:26:01 edt
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      that's it!!! (sigc)

--- you wrote:
margaret clayton wrote:
>regarding jonas and ezekial, i've heard interviews and the like in which
>amy says that she composed the song in her head while bicycling in
>hanover, nh, the morning before the ig did a concert at dartmouth
>college.
--- end of quoted material ---
okay, i knew there was a reason i was here...i just had trouble figuring it
out!

amy sent me (hahahaha)

susan
p.s. the girls did  there concert at d. in january 1995, i think. wasn't j and
e written way before that?

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 11:32:24 -0400
reply-to:     todd & connie tsuchiya <tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
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from:         todd & connie tsuchiya <tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
subject:      ig at electric fetus & hte mpls

got to talk to a&e at the electric fetus, a record store in minneapolis
before the show last night. they signed autographs and i got a picture with
them and my 5 1/2 month old son. i told him not to spit up on amy and she
replied, "please do!". also met a guy who said he travels to see about 30
ig concerts a year.

the show was great... of course i thought amy and emily's set went by way
too fast. the native american acts rocked. i thought bruce cockburn was
pleasant but a bit mellow for the crowd, which eas getting anxious to see
ig by 11:00. glad to hear they will be back again twice next year.

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 11:17:15 -0500
reply-to:     susan susan l schoon <zdey57a@prodigy.com>
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from:         susan susan l schoon <zdey57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      austin concert

i've been a subscriber for about a month, but this is my first post.
i won't go through the whole "newbie" thing, but i live in san marcos,
tx.  i was wondering if anyone attended the august concert in austin,
and if so, do you recall when amy said, "well that went across about
as good as the last song?"  which song was she referring to, and what
was the deal?  i did think that the crowd was a little weird that
night.  there seemed to be a lot of people around me who were there
for the social aspect, rather than the music.  what do you think?

also, did you go to the benefit for women's indigenous network after
the concert?  it was pretty cool, got some good pictures with a & e,
and with kris mckay.

glad to be here.

oh, yeah, don't mean to "flame" or anything, but my vote is that all
of a & e's private lives should be completely off limits.  it's
nobody's business if they smoke or what they smoke.  i feel that the
political aspect is appropriate, though.

cheers!
susan

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 12:37:07 -0400
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subject:      mpls show/ig day

delurking to post and share my post concert/ig adrenaline high.  i could not
have chosen
a more appropriate time to visit my parents in mn.  i have had a great time
since flying
home on wed. evening but it doesn't get much better than today.  the girls
were in fact
at a local record store this afternoon and i got to go see them.  they were
great about
signing stuff (they signed a black and white 'honor' poster as well as my
'1200 curfews' cd) and i was even able to get my picture with them.  bruce
cockburn was also there  with them and upon leaving the record store sara lee
emerged from a back room.  as amy was leaving she turned and thanked the
employees of the store and said,
'great store, i wish i had time to shop' --it was pretty funny.  both were
incredibly cordial, talkative, and seemed generally happy to be signing their
names a bizillion times :-)
the concert tonight was absolutely fantastic--i hope that those of you out in
cyberspace who were able to figure out how to hear the show not only enjoyed
it but were able to
tape it.  it was a great evening of music and entertainment.  the entire
concert featured
performances by several of the musicians on the album and lasted over 4
hours.  the ig
did not even take the stage until 11:00.  the set list is as follows:
reunion
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
least complicated
hey kind friend
it's alright
shame on you
blood quantum
galileo
bmhawk--encore with everyone--'a sort of we are the world thing' as amy
stated :-)
i loved hearing the new stuff and realized the patheticness of my nature and
obsession
when (due to boots and generous listees/tape tree organizers-thanks)  i was
able to sing along to new songs :-)  fun to finally hear them live and in
person.  the songs are developing with each performance and the additional
musicians/music (ie harmonica on 'shame on you') just add to them.  i can't
wait for the new album.  they mentioned tonight that they have already been
in the studio (in three different cities) and have begun laying down overdubs
but have not yet layed down their parts.  leave it to them to go about things
the round about way :-)  they also mentioned a spring tour in 97 and another
summer hte tour.  lots to look forward to.  for the fashion police amongst
us--amy was wearing white pants with no holes or colorful seams :-), and a
black t-shirt with and orange and yellow design on it--emily had on jeans and
a blue/white plaid shirt--and sara had on a black sleeveless tank sort of
top, black jeans, and red shoes.  they all smiled, chatted a lot, jammed and
put on a great show.  okay, i have rambled far too much and am becoming
significantly more delusional and incoherent so i am off to sleep!  too bad
that i did not see one list shirt at the concert--
were none of you there?  as i do not have access to my account while i am
home, i have missed all of your postings the past few days--and will continue
to do so for the next week.  i will look forward to catching up.  if a kind
soul does did get this taped via
cyberspace or whatever--can we work out a trade?  thanks for listenening
y'all and have
a great weekend!
cami (normally sl6tc@cc.usu.edu)

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 11:29:15 -0500
reply-to:     "<no value set: using january simpson" <simpson@hanover.edu>
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from:         "<no value set: using january simpson" <simpson@hanover.edu>
subject:      re: a and e smoking
x-to:         mhom@uakron.edu
in-reply-to:  <9609200619.aa20415@uakron.edu>

> however, the distinction
> that i will draw between the "harmless" joint, and beer, is that pot kills
> brain cells, destroys your lungs, and could impair you to the point where
> you do stupid stunts you normally wouldn't do and risk injuring yourself.
> there are conclusive scientific reports on this, and i hate to think that
> ig, who are so intelligent and talented, could do something which seeks to
> destroy the vehicle of their art (their brains & health).
> --

um, i'm not taking sides here, i don't think it really matters one way or
the other...i just thought i would throw in a little piece of trivia for
everyone.  alcohol consumption destroys braincells too, and there have
not been any definitive studies which prove a link from pot to lung
cancer etc...
january

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 12:33:12 -0500
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subject:      re: a and e smoking
x-to:         "<no value set: using january simpson" <simpson@hanover.edu>
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i am have not been reading all this stuff about a & e smoking, but it
really isn't anyone's concern anyway is it?  also, i might add, pot is a
self-medicating drug.  just don't abuse the bud.

on sat, 21 sep 1996, <no value set: using january simpson wrote:

> > however, the distinction
> > that i will draw between the "harmless" joint, and beer, is that pot kills
> > brain cells, destroys your lungs, and could impair you to the point where
> > you do stupid stunts you normally wouldn't do and risk injuring yourself.
> > there are conclusive scientific reports on this, and i hate to think that
> > ig, who are so intelligent and talented, could do something which seeks to
> > destroy the vehicle of their art (their brains & health).
> > --
>
> um, i'm not taking sides here, i don't think it really matters one way or
> the other...i just thought i would throw in a little piece of trivia for
> everyone.  alcohol consumption destroys braincells too, and there have
> not been any definitive studies which prove a link from pot to lung
> cancer etc...
> january
>
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subject:      'leeds' lyrics, anyone?

for some reason, this song really affects me right now. if anyone could help
me decipher exactly what emily is saying, it would surely be appreciated!

:)

anna

p.s. oh, and "hey kind friend" really gets to me too. anyone want to try
doing the lyrics for that one?

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date:         sat, 21 sep 1996 14:47:25 -0700
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from:         benjamin slavin <verdi@imap2.asu.edu>
subject:      phil ochs-nigc

so i finally went out and bought a phil ochs cd. "live at newport" to be
exact. he has to be one of the most indefinable artists i have ever heard.
the poor man can't sing and can barely play the guitar. his songs are so
repetitive too. but i can't help but fall in love with his music. i tried
to analize it last night but couldn't come up with one good reason why i
like him so much. i haven't connected with a singer/songwriter like
that since dar williams.
  maybe you guys could help me figure out his appeal. why are those
damned cliched vietnam whiner songs sticking in my head? why can't i stop
listening to him?
ben
"so now it can be told that i'm a quarter centuary old but a half a centuary
wise."

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subject:      re: most excellent find

>at paramount kings dominion  in virginia near wash. d.c. they had them for
>$10 this summer!  there were tons there so they probably still have some.
>lori

yep, they sure do!  i was there today and there's tons!  a whole rack full at
least.  10 bucks!
katy

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subject:      nigc- catie curtis in detroit!! =)

hi everyone!!

just got back from the detroit festival of the arts..where catie
curtis put on a live (free) show!  it was awesome.

for anyone who is interested here's the setlist:

1.  (only one i don't know the title to...goes something like
"now that you done everything you could to make me loose
my faith in you, you say come on believe me...")
2.  radical
3.  hole in the bucket
4.  be your fool  ( a new one)
5.  everybody was dancing
6.   the wolf
7.  forgiveness  (a new one)
8.  heros
9.  troubled mind
10 crocodile tears
11.  dad's yard (by request)
12.  silhouette
13.  the oops i'm sorry song
14.  we say hello
15.  falling silent in the dark
16.  slave to my belly
17. my grandmother's name (very sad song)
18.  minefields
19.  you can always be gone

also...i got to say hi to her and have her sign my disk
after the show.  boy was it a great day.

she's coming to the ark in november....can't wait!!

bye-
dana

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subject:      nigc:  ani d. & melisssa e. in st. louis

hello listees,

just wondering if there are any st. louis-based ig fans who plan on
attending the ani difranco and/or melissa etheridge concerts next month.  if
yes, please drop me a private e-mail as i would rather not go alone.  thanks!

barbara

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subject:      nigc - another smiths fan, kewl

in a message dated 96-09-19 10:03:46 edt, you write:

<<
*******************************************
heaven knows i'm miserable now
                                -the smiths
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  >>

"last night i dreamt....that somebody loved me..."

aaaah , such torment.

shoplifters of the world unite and take over!

amy

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on sat, 21 sep 1996, deb reiser wrote:

> cool -- i felt like i was in on a private little show. as far as the feed,
> it was transmitted 14.4 so my t1 line proved to be useless. it was also
> broadcast in mono according to my ra 3.0 player. i'd say the sound quality
> was good to fair (can other list member offer their opinions?). it just

it completely sucked from our end - a combination of the fact that my
brother's provider just isn't set up to handle that sort of data transfer,
especially not for such a sustained length of time (we listened to pretty
much the whole thing, i think); the fact that our mother was yelling at us
to come and eat lunch ("what? huh?  we're busy!!  just a minute!!" :); and
the fact that we live on the other side of the world.  we were running at
an average packet loss of about 25% - it got up to as high as 35% at some
points. :/

but still, it was great to hear all the songs again - the broadcast
didn't sound all that bad to *me*, actually, since i've seen them in
concert a bunch of times and know all the new songs.  my brother, on
the other hand, had *no* idea what was going on, even though i was
sitting there merrily singing along. ("oh, 'least complicated'!  i
know this... don't know this... what's this song?... what'd she say?...
hey, 'galileo'!  i know this one!!" etc etc etc.)

ah well. :)
sherlyn

ps - thanks to everyone who's filled out the survey.  i still haven't
managed to get my stupid pc back online yet, so i haven't tallied up
*any* results yet; but only a few more days, i promise...

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  "we've been around, we fall, we fly; we mostly fall, we mostly run.
   and every now and then we try to mend the damage that we've done..."
                                        - leonard cohen
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      "official" ig page goes down

does anyone know what has happened to the "official" indigo girls page which
had the faq and discography on it?   i just tried to download it and got an
error message saying that the page was not there.   has it moved?

if the operator of that page (marianne pyra) is no longer available, then
could someone send me a copy of the faq by email and i'll put it up on my web
page.   and someone should change the sign-on document too because it
contains a reference to that page.

mat

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subject:      re: lyrics

hi y'all,
  i was wondering if there was a kind soul out there who would reprint any of
the lyrics to any of the new songs.  in my moving of files and my office
things have disappeared.  i'd really appreciate it.  thanx.

peace,
amy

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subject:      hte minn. boot ?

hi y'all!

although sound quality is slightly worse than shortwave radio and it's
past 6 am here, i'm enjoying every minute !!

please, somebody feed this event into the usual channels.

the whole event, not just our most respected artists :)

georg
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from:         candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
subject:      jonas and ezekial meanings....

thought i'd throw amy's two cents in here...this is a quote taken from =
an interview that she did about rop...

"we played dartmouth college and net some real free thinkers up there.  =
i took a long bike ride on highway 5, along the new hampshire/vermont =
border, and this song uses references from that and earlier road trips =
-- things i heard in conversation, things from the news.  i went back to =
the hotel and wrote down the whole thing in one shot.  its a political =
song about people who put their faith in prophecy, who are walking =
towards disaster instead of doing anything about it.  sure, i believe in =
fate, but you can take alot of different paths in this life and your =
actions do have consequenses."

spoken like a true philosopher.

...still mentally dancing barefoot in the mud...
greta

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subject:      nigc: aids walk

anyone else going to be at the milw. aids walk today? i'll be in a black rop
shirt, hope to see anyone there!


~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      nigc - shawn colvin

hey all

i'm excited! i saw someone talking about a new shawn colvin album the
other day on the list. does anyone have any details yet??


andrew

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subject:      exteme nigc!!!!

------------------------------
>
>date:    sat, 21 sep 1996 12:33:12 -0500
>from:    debbie breckenridge <breckmi@mail.auburn.edu>
>subject: re: a and e smoking
>
>i am have not been reading all this stuff about a & e smoking, but it
>really isn't anyone's concern anyway is it?  also, i might add, pot is a
>self-medicating drug.  just don't abuse the bud.
>
>on sat, 21 sep 1996, <no value set: using january simpson wrote:
>
>> > however, the distinction
>> > that i will draw between the "harmless" joint, and beer, is that pot kills
>> > brain cells, destroys your lungs, and could impair you to the point where
>> > you do stupid stunts you normally wouldn't do and risk injuring yourself.
>> > there are conclusive scientific reports on this, and i hate to think that
>> > ig, who are so intelligent and talented, could do something which seeks to
>> > destroy the vehicle of their art (their brains & health).
>> > --
>>
>> um, i'm not taking sides here, i don't think it really matters one way or
>> the other...i just thought i would throw in a little piece of trivia for
>> everyone.  alcohol consumption destroys braincells too, and there have
>> not been any definitive studies which prove a link from pot to lung
>> cancer etc...
>> january
>>
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>
>
even though we all should be discussing music, i can't resist this thread.

1. recent studies of alcohol show that the brain cell destruction formerly
attributed to all alcohol consumption actually only manifests itself in
individuals in advanced stages of alcoholism and is really caused by extreme
mal-nutrition.   the origin of the origional beliefs stems from researchers
studying alcohols effects on brain tissue years ago needed to dissect the
brains of people known to regularly consume alcohol. (ie alcoholics)  todays
advanced imaging techniques allow researchers to look at a wider cross
section of society.

2.  studies showing damaging effects on bodily tissues from pot were
conducted thusly;  monkees were placed in airtight chambers, marijana smoke
was pumped into the chamber for minutes at a time and was all the poor guys
could breathe, this was repeated many times resulting in the test animals
eventually inhaling many many many times what a human would consume over a
lifetime (taking into account body size ect.) so these findings are pretty
suspect.

3.  pot is a wonderful self medicating drug,  brings out passive and peacful
feelings as opposed to the violence and temper of some who drink heavily,
doesnt eat your liver and has been recomended for legalisation by then
president jimmy carter, them president richard nixon's specially appointed
drug policy recomendation panel, and of course jocylin elders and many
others.  also, from personal experience, i've never ever ever had thoughts
of trying ridiculous macho stunts when stoned and if did i would be far to
mellow to actually escape the bear hug that my couch has on me  and probably
would just do something stupid like watch mtv. (which can be far scarier
than crazy stunts)

peace,

dave neale

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subject:      re: nigc- catie curtis in detroit!! =)

hi everyone!!

>just got back from the detroit festival of the arts..where catie
>curtis put on a live (free) show!  it was awesome.

for any of you who haven't checked this woman out..do.  i was browsing =
in a seattle bookstore last year and she was giving a show there (i had =
never heard of her at the time).  it was fabulous.  stumbled on to a =
life-changer.  she's a great person too, which makes her music all the =
more enjoyable.

$0.02 for free!
...dancing in the mind...
greta

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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
subject:      reunion cd

ok...sorry all to have to ask this again, but who is interested in the
reunion cd ( cause i got two).  lemme know if you are interested in trading
for something. something is wrong with my computer cause i went back to
respond to all the kind folks who responded before and they were all gone.
it was only like three days ago. anyways...sorry fr taking up so much of
everyone 's time. have a great weekend everyone.

peace
sasha

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subject:      nigc- melissa etheridge, duets

hi all!!

i was wondering if anyone has an audio tape of the "duets" concert??? i am
absolutely dying to get my hands on a copy.

and if you have the ability to audio tape from your vcr (or whatever), the
concert will be on again tonight (sunday) at 11pm on vh-1.

if someone, anyone could (audio) tape this for me, i will return the tape
in favor and owe you one!

thanks very much!
elaine r.

ps: e-mail me privately, please, and we'll set something up.


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  can't you find something better to do               hate is not a
  point the finger, slow to understand                family value!
  arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand
                               -metallica

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subject:      ig tour shirt question

i just got the ig t-shirt from the practice tour in the mail from the
fan club.   i have one question though:  can someone please tell me
what " map" means?  i would like to be able to tell people what it
means when they ask.

thanks

i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching
with freedom, kissing the damned, i said remember this
as how it should be.- amy ray

acv1.0 dur4 str5 bit3 act1 def3 deb3 con3 slm4 xtn3 pub2

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reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      smoke this (sorta igc)

hi all. i have tried soooo hard to be good, quiet little susie and sit on my
post-happy fingers, but i just can't take it anymore.

all this moralizing, speculating, guessing and otherwise commenting on whether
or not a and e smoke cigarettes, pot, or crack has got to stop. why? no, not
because i said so, but for a much better reason: amy and emily are human, and
are allowed to have human weakenesses and failings. if you are of the belief
that smoking cigs and/or pot and/or dried banana leaves is morally wrong, fine.
but ya know what? that's your opinion, not the truth handed down from god.

lets' take a little poll....

question 1: if anyone on this list has quit smoking  and knows it can feel
painfully similar to having your fingernails slowly rubbed out with a cheese
grater, raise your hand (again, susan and a few others do so)
question 2: if anyone on this list has smoked cigs in the past or smokes cigs
now, please raise your hand (susan and a couple hundred others on the list
raise their cyber hands)
question 2: if anyone on this list smokes pot or hash or your grandma's
dentures or used to, raise your hand now (susan and a few hundred others raise
their cyber hands)

the moral of the story: judge not lest you be judged. amy and emily are not
superhuman. they do not have to eat three square meals a day, workout out 45
mins a day, and abstain from inatking any chemicals into their bodies for us.
sure, we care about them and we we want them to be healthy, but can't we let
them make thier own decisions as to how far they want to take their health? you
know what? i bet they pick their noses sometimes too! i bet they even fart.
ooooohhhh, how gross! how offensive! how...human.

i'm done now, can we go back to talking tunes, or grape nuts, or mister limes?
please?

susan
p.s. flame away if you must, i'm used to it
p.s.s here's to a good cold beer and a marlboro light to go with it.

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subject:      nigc:  dc music stores query

hey, everyone!  i've been lurking on this list for quite a long time (since
it started, according to my occasionally faulty recollection), but i've
moved to a new e-mail address and to a new school and to a new abode 600
miles away from my beloved georgia, in which i'd been living for the
past 6 years.  (words of sympathy are encouraged, by the way.)

i just thought i'd drop the list a line to see if you know of any cool
music stores i should check out in the washington, dc area.  i'm living
north of town in laurel, but for a good shop i'd drive pretty much anywhere
in the md-dc-va area (maybe even de, pa, wv!).  being an impoverished graduate
student, i'm very interested in *used* cd's, and being a member of this
list, i'm very interested in *ig* material.

drop me a line with any information you'd like to share; heck, just drop
me a line anyway.

deanna
77light@cua.edu


ps:  a special hello to paul in atlanta, ga!  hey there, music man!

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date:         sun, 22 sep 1996 14:31:25 -0400
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date:         sun, 22 sep 1996 14:43:42 -0500
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from:         cyndi johnson <cyndigo@txdirect.net>
organization: fast fingers
subject:      re: smoke this (sorta igc)

susan wrote:
>
> i'm done now, can we go back to talking tunes, or grape nuts, or mister limes?
> please?
>
> p.s. flame away if you must, i'm used to it
> p.s.s here's to a good cold beer and a marlboro light to go with it.

>
and to that, i say amen, sister!

(says cyndi, as she drinks her zima and smokes her benson & hedges
deluxe ultra lights while watching atlanta clinch the division, wearing
her braves hat signed by a&e, her favorite human singing duo...)!

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date:         sun, 22 sep 1996 12:43:59 -0700
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subject:      re: nigc - shawn colvin
x-to:         andrew stokell <rbc31@dial.pipex.com>
in-reply-to:  <32455bca.6c01@dial.pipex.com>

hi everyone.

i'm a newbie here (for about a month or so--since before bumbershoot) and
longtime fan of the indigo girls (7 years?).

last night i saw shawn colvin in seattle.  according to the demo tape, her
new album will be called *a few small repairs* and will be in stores on
tues. oct 1.  i have an extra demo tape, if anyone wants to trade for a
boot of something--the two songs on it are called get out
of this house
and sunny came home (please email privately if you're interested; i'll
mail it out tomorrow).

glad to finally delurk!

larin

> hey all
>
> i'm excited! i saw someone talking about a new shawn colvin album the
> other day on the list. does anyone have any details yet??
>
>
> andrew
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      soy lyrics...again

        hi y'all...this is it...i have finally figured (i think!) what amy's
saying when she goes to gainsville...
        "we're out road-block tripping in the middle of the night"
        of course, she dropped the road-block part at the philly show, but
every other time, it's in there in one form or another!
        bye...jen

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subject:      re: smoke this

        i say "ditto" to cyndi and susan's posts...let's move on, move on
and move on...
        jen  (who still dreams of cigarettes as she runs out to the corner
package store...)

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subject:      bq lyrics

        hi y'all...i've been listening to blood quantum again (and again)
and this is what i heard...any opinions??  and no i did not try to
transcribe the native american altro at the end!!!

        blood quantum

        you're standing in the blood quantum line
        with a pitcher in your hand
        poured from your heart into your veins
        you said i am, i am, i am

        now measure me, measure me
        tell me where i stand
        allocate my very soul
        like you have my land

        genocide
        genocide

        colonize, you christianize, you patronize, you advertise (you...)

        (you love your genocide?)

        regulate, you assimilate, you appropriate, you...we love to hate you

        genocide (you are a man without a face, you're just a number on a page)
        genocide (you are a woman without a face, we'll just erase you)

        there you are a man without a face, you're just a number on a page
        there you are a woman without a face, we'll just erase you

        conscripted children, torn from truth, to the boarding school station
        force-fed the foreign tongue of fire, imprisoned education
        broken knowledge, pencil-scarred, spit-faced the scarlet (???) sage
        wisdom deep within the rock outlives the pretty lies upon the page

        genocide (how white the snowy graves)
        how red the blood terrain  (???)
        genocide (still pulsing with your dreams)
        above that stubborn stain  (???)

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from:         jen hall <jenhall@juno.com>
subject:      ...and it gets worse...

ok. i was planning on going up to my old 'chosen' hometown of minneapolis
to see the ig concert and to go to my first football game as the vikings
were host to their #1 rival - the packers.  i was fortunate enough to see
them on tv and to watch the vikings become the leader of the nfc central.
so, now because i couldn't afford to go up - - i'm a 2-time loser.  oh
well.  i still hope to get up to mpls before the year is out - - so any
minnesotans that want to get together...let's go for it.

go vikes !!  go vikes !!  go vikes !!  go vikes !!  go vikes !!  go vikes
!!

one pack of wine coolers left....gotta finish those!!
- jen hall

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subject:      nigc--vacation's over

hey y'all,
i'm going home, so please don't send anything else to this address
(jgolin4870@aol.com) after tomorrow (monday the 23rd) evening.  i'll be back
at my usual place (karey@u.washington.edu) by thursday or friday, probably.
looking forward to seeing some of you guys at danielle howle at the sit 'n'
spin,
karey

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subject:      nigc:  help me switch to digest, weird things happening

ok, i've been trying to switch to the digest of this list for over a
week now, and i can't.  so i thought it was time to waste some bandwidth.

when i send listserv or whoever it is for this list the *right* message
(which is like set indigo-girls digest), i get a response that i'm not
subscribed to the list, yet i get all the list mail.

can anyone help me?  i can't take the nigc any longer...  many thanks,

margaret

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subject:      re: smoke this (sorta igc)
x-to:         cyndigo@txdirect.net

dear cyndi:

>>>>>(says cyndi, as she drinks her zima and smokes her benson &
hedges deluxe ultra lights while watching atlanta clinch the division,
wearing her braves hat signed by a&e, her favorite human singing duo.
..)!<<<<<<<

1)  now, if it were only a dodger hat....

2)  now, if my dodgers were sipping champagne today (as the braves
are) instead of battling those dastardly san diego padres.  no team
who has worn uniforms as ugly as the padres old duds should be
allowed to stay in the major leagues.

melissa
"still amazed at hideo nomo's awesome no-hitter against colorado (at
colorado) last week"

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subject:      website for ghost!

i just ran across this website for ghost!.
http://members.aol.com/igboo8/index.html i know how alot of yall put down
bootleg sellers.  well they also have a ton of pictures and have a page set
up to advertise collectables.  they will even put your collectables in there
if you want to sell them.  the items i bought from them were great.  i bought
a video of emily in decatur square at the end of the olympics and it also has
her at rock for aids2 and michelle malone, kristen hall.  it is my favorite.
oh well,  i just thought some of you may be interested.  i know that bootleg
selling causes a big uproar here but they also have alot other stuff other
than boots.

peace,
emily

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subject:      sigc: women in music with laney goodman

date:    sun, 22 sep 1996 15:43:16 -0400
from:    womenonair@aol.com
subject: women in music with laney goodman

greetings list members!

women in music is a weekly, one-hour radio series featuring the best music
from women around the world, exploring all genres with an exciting mix.
october 1, the first show will be available via public radio satellite and
the internet!

here's a huge *thanks* to all of you who responded to our announcement or
passed on information about women in music with laney goodman!  you really
made us feel welcome and very hopeful for a successful show as we commence
with our debut.  on october 1, 1996, women in music will be available via the
public radio satellite system to all connected public radio stations.
downlink specs for the first
"feed" of the show are:

show #  program i.d. #  day/date        start time      end time        channel

1.      96-c49-00001    tue/10/01/96    2100 (ect)      2159 (ect)      a68.5 s
tereo

subsequent shows are available each following tuesday at the same time, same
channel.

to find out more about playlists and show info (including future downlinks),
see our website at: http://members.aol.com/womenonair/womeninmusic.htm (the
url is long, but it's worth it).

the show will also be available on audionet (www.audionet.com), beginning
october 1, 1996.  stop by and check out this exciting new way to hear your
favorite artists, while surfing the net!

if you have any promotional info or cd's, please send them to:
    women in music with laney goodman
    p.o. box 15465
    boston, ma  02215

if you'd like to give us feedback, or let us know about a great female artist
you'd like to hear on women in music, or if you'd like to give us the call
letters of your local public radio station where you'd like to hear the show,
e-mail us at:  womenonair@aol.com.  if you'd like to help get the word out
about the show, you
can call your public radio station's program/music director and let them know
this is the kind of programming you want to hear and support.

we look forward to hearing from all of you.  here's to an exciting,
successful series!

stay tuned...

laney goodman                              kay stoner
host and producer                           executive director

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subject:      uhh...middle names

ok guys here comes a really stupid question, and i don't think it is anywhere
near borderlining invading personal lives, but does anyone know amy and
emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.

sasha

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subject:      nigc: shawn colvin
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hi -

someone asked about shawn colvin's new album...  i was just in a music
store yesterday asking about it too - they told me october 1...

i can't wait!!!

deb
alexand6@jeflin.tju.edu

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subject:      re: honor the earth - minneapolis

hi y'all,
  i got back from the concert in minneapolis at 8:30 yesterday morning and
just didn't have the gumption to post yesterday but here it is today.  i'm
really sorry to hear about everyones computer problems but don't frett....i
taped the girls and would like to set up a tape tree to offer it to all the
kind people on this list.  i was in the ninth row and the tape turned out
pretty good.  i also got the whole intro with winona laduke but i think i
will leave that off if no one objects.
   it was my first time seeing the girls live and i have to say that while it
may have been short it was wonderful!  i can't wait to see them again.  :)
  here is the set list:

1. reunion
2. get out the map
3. don't give that girl a gun
4. least comlicated
5. hey, kind friend
6. it's alright
7. shame on you
8. blood quantum
9. galileo
10. bury my heart at wounded knee

  if any of you would be willing to help out with a tape tree please e-mail
me privately and we can get this thing going.  if anyone wants to set up a
trade, that can be arranged too.  thanx for the help.  take it easy.

peace,
amy

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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: uhh...middle names

amy elizabeth ray &

emily ann(e?) saliers

(*their middle initials are the same as the first initials of
eachother--a.e. &   e.a--coincidence... ;)


~abigail

at 06:10 pm 9/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>ok guys here comes a really stupid question, and i don't think it is anywhere
>near borderlining invading personal lives, but does anyone know amy and
>emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.
>
>sasha
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****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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date:         sun, 22 sep 1996 19:50:16 edt
reply-to:     "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      funny stuff  from amber (smoke this)

--- amber batson wrote:
lol, i guess this would be the opposite of a flame (a squirt?), i liked
your post and fully agree
--- end of quoted material ---

i thought y'all would enjoy this. from now on, lets take amber's lead and all
squirt as much as possible
bwahahaha

:-b
susan

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subject:      a & e's middle names

for all the newbies out there...

it's amy elizabeth ray and emily ann saliers

peace,

joan :)

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subject:      astrological taper

hello everyone,

        i am still sort of new to the list and i was wondering if anybody could
tell how this astrological taper thing works.  thanks.

                                                jonny

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from:         greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
subject:      another ig impersonator!!

>from: emilysalrs@aol.com
       ^^^^^^^^^^

ok y'all--now i certainly hope this girl is being "reprimanded" for
attempting to be emily.  i mean she couldn't be the real emily and god
knows she may have fooled some people and that is just not right!  ;-)

hmmmph!!

boutros boutros ghali (sp?)

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!*
# greg m. flamer               northwestern university   @
* 1411 w. sherwin ave # 1n     mfm520@lulu.acns.nwu.edu  $
& chicago, il  60626           gflame@nwu.edu            *
^                                                        &
#   "when you're learning to face the path at your pace  )
&    every choice is worth your while"--indigo girls     *
*                                                        !
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*%$

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date:         mon, 23 sep 1996 00:28:35 gmt
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from:         alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
subject:      toking in general...  (totally nigc, and probably stupid anyway)
x-to:         dkneale@epix.net

i hate speaking without experience, and i may have said this before, but i
can't remember (who needs dead brain cells?)

artificial happiness...  it's brought about  by chemicals...  that bothers
me.  don't ask me why that's any worse than say, sex or music or computer
games, but i would say that it's pretty bad.  i will say that, regardless
of what studies show, i've seen stoned people, and i would *not* want them
behind the wheel of a car.  i mean, i don't trust a person who see's the
lines moving...  and i will tell you from personal experience that
different substances cause different reactions in different people...  a
friend of mine only gets a headache when he's drunk, while another can't
smoke a cigarette without feeling sick (another can't figure out how to
light one...)  another thing is that it's very hard to find pure weed
anymore...  much of it, in the same way that your standard supermarket
mushrooms are, is laced; which is a bad thing.  there are still people who
think that smoking is good for you (or at least not bad)... why bother....
if there is truly no way for you to be happy except through artificial, id
est, something that affects the brain through the body, sex not included
(please don't nitpick that, i think it cover's everything, but i'm not
sure; psych things included), then go ahead and screw yourself up, but
until that point, i can't agree with any reason to do something like that.

sorry 'bout the bandwidth,

alec

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subject:      map tour shirt

well, i ordered a "map" demo tour t-shirt from russell carter's office.
the back of the t-shirt looks pretty cool - the scribbled "indigo girls"
insignia across the back with the practice tour dates below, but the *front*
of the shirt looks...well...kind of dorky!  it says map in kind of a weird
font (not creative, just odd) and then it is "stamped"  "demonstration:  not
for sale."  i'm sure anyone who sees me shopping at kroger's is gonna wonder
"what on earth is *that* supposed to mean???" (g)  the front of the shirt
just doesn't work...  but, i imagine that they felt that they needed to have
something to sell during this little tour and that was the best the management
team could come up with in such a short amount of time.  i'm surprised they
would have anything printed for this short of a tour, so i'm glad to at
least have something from the tour!  just wondered if anyone else thought
the front of the shirt was a little obscure...

off to go smoke one of my cigars and drink a southpaw light...(g)

joan :)

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subject:      honor the earth

i was just wondering, did amy and emily just sing friday night or did they
speak for a while about honor the earth?  did they mention anything about
"unplug america" day on october 13?  i received some literature a few weeks
ago from the indigenous women's network/seventh generation fund about this,
but haven't heard anyone else mention it.  did a & e discuss any native
american projects they are currently involved in?  did amy mention anything
about supporting the zapatistas in mexico recently?  btw, this is pow wow
season and for anyone who's interested, there are two upcoming pow wows in
the nashville area:  one next weekend in lebanon tennessee sponsored by the
alliance for native american indian rights and one the weekend of october
18-20 in nashville sponsored by the native american indian association.
i went to one last year and it was a pretty neat experience.  lots of great
indian crafts, books, jewelry, food, dance, etc.

peace,

joan :)

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cyndigo wrote....

>>>hey, melissa, i'm a dodger fan too, and i do have a dodgers hat -
i collect mlb fitted hats.  but i can't root for the dodgers when
they're playing the braves -- sorry!  i will root for them against
everybody
else though, ok?  (now that my home state astros have crashed and
burned big-time).... :(  catch ya later!<<<<<<<

cyndi:

please root hard for the dodgers.  the nl west champs play the st
louis cards.  the wild card, however, plays the braves.  quite
frankly, i'd much rather play the cards than the braves.  summa cum
laude, huh?<<<<

melissa

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subject:      nigc - count me in on the ig/smiths fan count

too much...to find smiths fans on the ig board.


"william, it was really nothing..."

peace, love & understanding,
kate

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subject:      re: map tour shirt

> just wondered if anyone else thought
>the front of the shirt was a little obscure...


i love my map shirt!!! i wear it for at least an hour everyday!  usually
when i'm doing my daily ig listening :)

peace, love, and purple,
sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)

"...don't drink the water, there seems to be something ailing everyone..."

                                --emily

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subject:      nigc-danielle howle

hey tracy!!, gwen, binky,  and everyone else, who i am in no way trying to
leave out,  i managed to fanagle my way out of work so i can go to the oly
and the seattle danielle howle shows.  yay!  are we gonna meet up as a
list, cause i can't get any of my so-called friends to come, and i will be
lonely all by myself.  also,  if anyone wants to carpool, let me know.

peace, love, and purple,
sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)

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                                --emily

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>
        i'm posting this without permision of the author, but hopefully he
won't mind

>                       gay
>                rights &
>                     weed
>                      by steven wishnia
>            last may's supreme court decision
>            overturning amendment two, colorado
>            voters' attempt to ban gay-rights laws in
>            the state, is a victory for rationality and
>            tolerance in dealing with people often
>            damned as deviants and degenerates--a
>            status shared by gays, lesbians and
>            pot-smokers.
>
>            it stands in sharp contrast to the court's
>            1986 ruling in bowers v, hardwick,
>            upholding the conviction of an atlanta
>            man on sodomy charges for giving
>            another man a blowjob in his own
>            bedroom. in that case, the court ignored
>            well-established principles of sexual
>            privacy rights for consenting adults--the
>            precedents used to legalize birth control
>            and abortion--because it didn't have the
>            guts to go against millennia of anti-sex
>            and anti-queer prejudice disguised as
>            "judeo-christian morality." thus oral
>            sex, a recreation indulged in by all but
>            the most prudish, selfish or unlucky
>            americans, remains illegal in 14 states
>            for straights and in 22 for gays.
>
>            what's this got to do with pot-smokers?
>            plenty. for one, gays and potheads
>            share a peculiarly invisible status. it is
>            difficult for those most directly affected
>            by antigay prejudice, or by antipot laws,
>            to come out in public and say, "this is
>            what i am, it's not harmful and i have the
>            right to do it," without contracting the
>            stigma of being part of the despised
>            group. it's no accident that one of the
>            few members of congress to speak out
>            for legalizing medical marijuana is one
>            of its few openly gay members, barney
>            frank of massachusetts. by the same
>            token, closet cases and those afraid of
>            guilt by association are generally either
>            useless or harmful to the cause:
>            president didn't-inhale parrots the myth
>            about how pot's allegedly increased
>            potency makes it a dangerous drug, and
>            fires surgeon general joycelyn elders
>            for the twin sins of suggesting pot
>            legalization and talking common sense
>            about masturbation.
>
>            we all are also targets of the same style
>            of hysteria. homophobes trumpet the
>            myth that gays are fiendish perverts
>            compelled to "recruit" innocent
>            teenagers to replenish their ranks. rabid
>            drug warriors conjure up images of
>            teens turned into raving, amoral junkies
>            within weeks of their first toke, offered
>            free by fiendish pushers.
>
>            our enemies are the same people.
>            justice antonin scalia made that clear
>            in his dissent to the court's gay-rights
>            affirmation, when he termed
>            amendment two part of a "culture war"
>            that the court had no right to stop, a
>            legitimate attempt by the voters of
>            colorado to "preserve traditional sexual
>            mores"--even if it would involve
>            empowering employers and landlords to
>            deny people jobs and homes if they
>            disapproved of their sex lives.
>
>            this "culture war" is a pillar of the drug
>            war. reagan drug czar carleton turner
>            perhaps put it most explicitly in 1982,
>            when, explaining why the government
>            was concentrating its antidrug efforts on
>            marijuana, he called pot-smoking a
>            behavioral pattern that went along with
>            "hard-rock music, torn jeans and sexual
>            promiscuity" and "involvement in
>            anti-military, anti-nuclear-power,
>            anti-big-business, anti-authority
>            demonstrations." (we activists should
>            only be so lucky.)
>
>            sex is at the heart of this culture war.
>            the side that proclaims "traditional
>            values" judges people by whom they
>            fuck and how they fuck, and claims the
>            right to jail or ostracize the filthy
>            degenerates: faggots and dykes who
>            transgress its inhumanly narrow limits.
>            the other side, rejecting that as
>            repressive and hateful, judges (if it has
>            any standards) by how you treat the
>            people you fuck or want to fuck. (few
>            of us qualify as saints--let he whose
>            ex-girlfriends speak well of him cast the
>            first stone.)
>
>            the basic issue is freedom. the
>            declaration of independence calls the
>            pursuit of happiness an "inalienable
>            right." i can think of no part of
>            happiness more crucial for adults than
>            the freedom to have a love life and a sex
>            life. in rejecting amendment two, the
>            court has at least partially upheld the
>            constitutional principle that there are
>            certain rights that cannot be denied
>            regardless of what the majority of the
>            people may want, regardless of what the
>            state may try to impose. that principle
>            should also apply for those of us who
>            enjoy catching a buzz from a resolutely
>            benign herb.

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> amy elizabeth ray &
> emily ann(e?) saliers

> (*their middle initials are the same as the first initials of
> eachother--a.e. &   e.a--coincidence... ;)

ok, i just found this out when i was home last month. my brother has a
book of names and i was looking people i know up to see the origin of
their name and what it means. well, when you look their names up you see:

amy (latin) "beloved" see also amelia; emily.

emily (old german) "industrious" (latin) "flatterer." a feminine form of
amelia; a feminine form of emil. see also amy; emma.

what i think is interesting is that their names don't have the same
meaning but they still reference each other and i looked really hard in
the book but i couldn't find any other set of names that said "see also" !
weird :)

- kristina

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subject:      nigc-shawn colvin...

i saw a headline in billboard magazine a few weeks ago,
and the headline said that shawn colvin's new album is
about her recent divorce.  so the songs will be about
loss and pain and recovery...

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subject:      re: smoke this (sorta igc)

m gordon wrote:
>
> dear cyndi:
>
> >>>>>(says cyndi, as she drinks her zima and smokes her benson &
> hedges deluxe ultra lights while watching atlanta clinch the division,
>  wearing her braves hat signed by a&e, her favorite human singing duo.
> ..)!<<<<<<<
>
> 1)  now, if it were only a dodger hat....
>
> 2)  now, if my dodgers were sipping champagne today (as the braves
> are) instead of battling those dastardly san diego padres.  no team
> who has worn uniforms as ugly as the padres old duds should be
> allowed to stay in the major leagues.
>

rotflol!!!!!! of course no team that had a manager, who's stomache
reached the mound three minutes before the rest of him did, should be
allowed to play in the major's either. ;^)

and let's not forget that they deserted brooklyn (although, i think
someone forgot to tell that to mr. bob dole).

go padres!!!!!!! caminiti for mvp!!!!!!

(removing my toungue from my cheek now)  8^)

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

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subject:      nigc: abc movie

        evening everyone...i just caught the last half of the abc movie
tonight.."two mothers for zachary" (or close to this) and all i have to say
is that i thought that neanderthals had gone extinct...

looking towards a brighter future...jen

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subject:      abc movie (nigc)

yeah, i watched the whole thing.  it really wrenched at my gut.  i
read in the advocate that sharon bottoms had recently given up her
fight for custody so she can pursue more visitation rights.

i can't help thinking (right or wrong) that if i was the girlfriend,
i'd have to leave at some point so she could get her child back.  but
who knows, i've never walked in their shoes.

never moving to virginia...
susan

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subject:      nigc:  it's almost embarrassing to be an american...

four years ago, clinton was grinning ear to ear as he saw the large crowd
of gay and lesbian supporters.  apparently, he's changed his mind as he
signed the bill that prohibits gay & lesbian marriages.  (i'd be
interested in knowing who amy is voting for since we've seen her e-mail
stating that she thinks clinton is a jerk.)

plus, i just finished watching "two mothers for zachery" - a fact based
movie.  for those that didn't see it, here is a woman who gave birth to a
son and about 2 years (or so) after giving birth, she began a lesbian
relationship.  after the grandmother found out that her daughter was
involved in a lesbian relationship - and that she was raising her son in
the same house where the lover lived (god forbid!), the grandmother filed
suit and was granted full custody - solely because her daughter lived
with a women that she was involved with.  the women wasn't (isn't) a bad
mother - - but purely because she's gay, she's not allowed (under
virginia law) to have custody of her son.  as the movie was in its last 7
minutes and the grandmother still maintained custody, i knew that the
courts hasn't reversed their decision.  as of feb. 1996 - the mother is
still only granted partial custody.

i know there are those saying "ok jen, what's the point?"  ok.  we all
know that a&e are lesbians.  and we all know that a&e write music that's
personal.  and we all 'love' a&e.  even though i'm not gay, i have many
friends that are.  and the fact that i'm granted privileges because i
sleep with a man is bull sh*t.  just because two women are in love, that
doesn't mean that they can't raise a children.  hell, a man and women
isn't going to have sex in front of their children, but for some reason,
when it's a gay or lesbian couple, all of a sudden, it's assumed that
children can't live with them because gays are sure to have sex in front
of the kids.  who are these people?

sure there are bad gay and lesbian people out there.  but you can be sure
as shit that there are far more bad heterosexuals out there.  (and you
can define 'bad' as you wish).  i may be off on this, but from where i
stand, the gays and lesbians spend most of their time fighting for their
damn rights as human beings then they are concerned about robbing banks
or being members of gangs or committing any form of rape.

if a&e ever decided to become parents - i would wish them the very best.
and they may need that help because the government may find them
unsuitable parents and take away their children before a or e even puts a
bottle in the kids mouth!!  california law may be different, but i'd be
interested to find if melissa etheridge is in any danger of government
intervention.

sorry to go on about this, but it's just stoooooopid.  the us has so many
serious problems.  let them spend time on that.  let any good person
raise their children.  the old adage (sp?) use to be 'anyone can get a
drivers license, but anyone can be a mom/dad".   well, apparently not.

peace,
- jen hall

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i watched the film and it made me ill. i can't imagine being forced to
choose between a woman i loved and my child. when your entire family
turns on you to boot, it's too much for one person to bear. i hope sharon
doesn't give up the fight. at some point, we just have to realize that we
can't continue living in fear and ignorance. if nothing else, it reminds
me why i'm in law school.


peter a. barta
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"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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usually, i just read my mail and don't participate in the discussions.
that dissertation just seems to take up so much time.  however, i too, saw
the movie tonight about the woman from virginia who lost custody of her
son.  i'm well aware of this case and was interested to see how the
hollywood folks would portray it.  on to the point of this.  i live in
north carolina (another state where homosexuality or at least engaging in
homosexual acts, is considered a crime against nature) with my partner of
5 years, beth.  we have a 10 year old foster son.  now brian is not an
official foster son, it's a voluntary thing set up through social services
and his mother.  lest you think north carolina exhibits enlightened
behavior now and then, i'm sure if brian was not of mixed race, was not
from an economically deprived background, and was not thought to be
mentally handicapped (he's now considered learning disabled rather than
retarded) - there might have been more difficulty getting him placed with
us.  i am fortunate that my parents and my partner's parents are
supportive of our relationship.  they would never take a child from us.
most of the adults involved with brian are pleased to see him with us
these past three years because we offer him a stable environment.

sorry to go on.  these laws do suck and they  don't make sense.  i'm glad
at least we're getting a reprieve and people see past their prejudices to
the good we're doing for brian.

amy

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subject:      re: nigc-danielle howle

we should meet before the show this time. it would probably work better
than the ig concert. i am talking about the oly show right now. danielle
howle is playing with elliott smith at midnight sun, 113 n columbia st, on
thurs 26th. the show cost $5.

me and tracy think we should meet at dancing goats around 7pm. it is at the
corner of 4th and washington (i think).

contact me or tracy (clumber@prostar.com) for more info.

if you live anywhere close you must go see her (according to tracy)

jeni and tracy

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in a message dated 96-09-22 18:13:48 edt, i forget who writes:

<< but does anyone know amy and
emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.
  >>

coco and tiffany (respectively)

so..that would be amy 'coco" ray and emily "tiffany" saliers.

;)
binky

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in a message dated 96-09-22 20:34:13 edt, you write:

<< he front of the shirt
just doesn't work...  but, i imagine that they felt that they needed to have
something to sell during this little tour and that was the best the
management>>
... could come up with on short notice [paraphrased]

yeah...i thought the font could have at least been more interesting...
bought mine at bumbershoot and haven't even worn it yet.

claire

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subject:      re: smoke this

i really want a cigarrette right this minute...

can't figure out why for the life of me.

hmmm.

binky

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subject:      re: names
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on sun, 22 sep 1996, kristina wrote:

> emily (old german) "industrious" (latin) "flatterer." a feminine form of
> amelia; a feminine form of emil. see also amy; emma.
  ^^^^^^

a feminine form of amelia?   i always thought amelia was a woman's name
anyway, and in latin anything ending in a is feminine.

mat

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subject:      re: a and e smoking

> monkees were placed in airtight chambers, marijana smoke
>was pumped into the chamber for minutes at a time and was all the poor guys
>could breathe

aha...that explains head...

seffy

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subject:      re: hte

i want to listen to ig. what is all this political stuff?:)

     well there sure was enough of that at the show :) i also discovered
     for myself how rude people can be. my gf and i sat ourselves down all
     comfie in our chairs to be surrounded by obnoxious, rude, loud, stand
     up and stretch so you can't see every five minutes college students!
     wow! then the 2 chairs that were empty next to us the first half of
     the show got filled by a couple who's breath made me drunk :):):) not
     to mention they talked the whole time!! i did finally yell out "can
     everyone shut up for just one song please?" :):) ok enough bitching,
     the ig rocked! their new songs are awesome and we really had a fun
     time together. so the 5-1/2 hour drive each way was well worth it.
     kira

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subject:      winona laduke vp

hey y'all,

   i don't know if this has been posted to the list yet, it's monday
morning and i'm still trying to read all my mail and i'm only up to friday.
anyways, winona laduke is running for vice president with ralph nader!
isn't that just frinckin' incredible.  there is hope for this world....


                        --sunny,
   who hopes to get to saturday's mail by noon.   :)

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i would like to be subscribed to the indigo girls bulletin board.
is this possible?
thanks

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date:         mon, 23 sep 1996 08:40:47 pst
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subject:      nigc-shawn colvin release info

someone asked about the new shawn colvin cd release.  it's scheduled to happen
tomorrow.  (tuesday, sept 24)

just in case anyone is interested, mary black's new cd is out and i think james
taylor has a new one out, but i haven't had a chance to see if it's out yet.

i also just picked up a putumayo relese called "women of the world: celtic,"
which is a collection of female contemporary celtic/irish performers.  i'm
about half way through it and am please so far.

sarah
sarah_scilley@ccmail.uoregon.edu

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subject:      nigc-danielle howle

sundara bellowed:
>
>hey tracy!!, gwen, binky,  and everyone else, who i am in no way trying to
>leave out,
        lololol!!!!  i guess i am better at guilt than i thought!!

>i managed to fanagle my way out of work so i can go to the oly
>and the seattle danielle howle shows.  yay!
        we certainly hope so! sheesh!!  lol!
> are we gonna meet up as a
>list, cause i can't get any of my so-called friends to come, and i will be
>lonely all by myself.  also,  if anyone wants to carpool, let me know.
        okay, you prob saw the post from the green lurker aka jeni, them's
the plan for the oly show... we are still unsure about the seattle shows...
we hope to go to redmond and portland as well.. sit and spin is up in the
air.  so, for those we sadly hand the planning baton to someone else.  we
very much want to meet up with the listers!!!!  it will be fun!  danielle is
way worth it!! (heck just for the accent.. swooooooooon!)

tracy


"isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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subject:      info you been waiting for... nigc

remember a while back when caroline aiken send us a letter about her recent
tour?  rember the woman she talked about from eugene...mk menard?  well, i did
my homework.

i talked with mk for a little while after the caroline aiken show at john
henry's in eugene (great show, by the way. she even commented that she was at
the ig show at bumbershoot).  in addition to learning that mk would be playing
at the eugene celebration, we talked about the ig list and that we'd been
talking about caroline aiken which is how i had heard about her.  who knows,
maybe mk will show up on the list.

anyway, i though you would want to know that i caught mk's show at the eugene
celebration and was pretty impressed.  she has a great voice and an easiness on
the stage that makes the audience very comfortable.  it's like she tries to be
your friend instead of just a women with a guitar up there performing for you.
she released one cd and did several of her originals from the cd in addition to
doing a few really good covers (shawn colvin, heart, ig (power of two), and
melissa etheridge/come to my window).

for those of you within driving distance of eugene, she playing friday night at
the soltice market off of river road.  definately be there!  i'll let you know
as soon as i find out what time she's playing.

if you want to get your hands on her cd, i think the best thing to do at this
point is email me.  i haven't asked her about posting her email address so i
guess i'll just post mine and pass the requests to her.  she's selling them for
$15.

if you have any question or what me to pass along that you want a cd email me.

sarah
sarah_scilley@ccmail.uoregon.edu

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subject:      re: nigc: abc movie
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on sun, 22 sep 1996, jen lucero wrote:

>         evening everyone...i just caught the last half of the abc movie
> tonight.."two mothers for zachary" (or close to this) and all i have to say
> is that i thought that neanderthals had gone extinct...
>
> looking towards a brighter future...jen

sorry to disappoint you, jen ... no, no, i'm afraid neanderthals never
really left us. the future is bleak indeed. for instance, did anyone
catch "a village affair" last week? patriarchy is alive and well, the
loudest grunt gets the grub, and..... as the unproduced screenplays pile
up on my desk i wonder why i am doing this at all!
know anyone who wants to make real movies??? anyone??? email me!!
kimlin@vcn.bc.ca    --- kim (north van)

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subject:      putumayo label (some igc)

someone posted earlier about a putumayo cd featuring female celtic artist.
though i am not familiar with this c.d., i am familiar with the putumayo label
and i must say that their compilations are among the best and the most often
played on my c.d. player!

their "best of contempory folk" is amazing!  it features a plethora of artists
and a short bio. on each.  included on this cd is "hammer and a nail" (studio
version) among songs by kristen hall, joan baez, cliff eberhardt, christine
lavin and  dougie mclean plus others.

i also highly recommend their double cd release featuring "singer-writers"
entitled "shelter."  a percentage of the proceeds from this cd go towards
providing, well, shelter.   artists on this cd set include catie curtis,
john gorka, cheryl wheeler, shawn (sp) colvin and more.

both these are great cds to own for people who have heard of some of these
artists which are commonly mentioned on this list, or people who want to
hear what these artists sound like.  in other works, they are cool samples
of a lot of different artists.

for reggie fans, the putumayo world music: reggie cd is pretty darn good as
well.

i feel like an advertisment for putumayo now.  no i don't work for 'em, i
just pay someone's salary with the # of cd's i buy...

cynthia crecca
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'cause the music that they constantly play,
says nothing to me about my life"
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subject:      re: uhh...middle names
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on mon, 23 sep 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

>
> << but does anyone know amy and
>  emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.
>   >>
> coco and tiffany (respectively)
> > so..that would be amy 'coco" ray and emily "tiffany" saliers.
>
> ;)
> binky

wow... my nieghbor's cat is named "coco"...what does it mean??
peace ya'll,  -- kim (north van)

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subject:      most excellent find

hi, the hoor   honor the earth campaign has a coup0le hundrred swamp ophelia
t-shirts left over from last years tour--same front as the regular so with
the extrab added bonus of a two color back of the tour cities for hte '95
framed with rock art figures

$5 each plus $2.50 shipping and handling
if interested send money to
omi, 289 east 5th st suite 209 st paul, mn 55101
for mastercard vios  visa or discover call 1-800-earth07
thanks
peace, russ

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subject:      re: abc movie (nigc)

i don't post often, but after seeing the abc sunday night flick, i
feel compelled to toss in my $.02...

it's incredible to me that a mother who disregards her daughter's
experiences of child molestation (by her mom's boyfriend) and who
ultimately rejects and withdraws support for her child would be
considered a "more fit" mother than a loving lesbian!  i also find
it sad that the lesbian couple didn't seem to get much public
support after they had published their story in the paper....aren't
there any gay advocates in virginia...at all?!

at least the movie portrayed the mother, best friend, and brother
as completely evil (at least i saw them that way!) and, hopefully,
the mother (susan mentioned in her post that her name was sharon
bottoms?) will find affirmation and validation for who and what she
is -- a good lesbian mother -- both through the television
representation of her character and through any public support that
might be inspired by the film.  and, finally, perhaps there's
"victory" in knowing that many, many people think that her own
mother is in the wrong and have faith that she and her partner are
fit to raise her son.

sad and seething in cally...
cecile

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subject:      roseland setlist?

hey y'all,

   could someone post or send me the setlist from the recent roseland show?
thanks.

                        --sunny

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subject:      what happened to sotw?

what is the sotw? i want to do pot, please, pleeeeeaaaaassssseeee? i
wanted to post a post called "a day in the life" about my life, but i
figured that you all could care less. anyways, at least this has ig
content. *also* by some weird coincidence, my cousins that are in their
20's are named amy and emily. just in case you wanted to know. i am now
naming my firstborn children coco and tiffany 8-)

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subject:      nigc- request for dar's early stuff

sorry for the total nigc, but i was wondering if anyone had any of dar
william's pre-razor and tie stuff that they'd like to share in exchange for
a blank tape and sase. or i'd be willing to trade ig stuff, but i haven't
got that much.
thanks
jasmine

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subject:      re: uhh...middle names

on mon, 23 sep 1996, the woman of many names (claire) wrote:

> << but does anyone know amy and
>  emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.
>   >>
>
> coco and tiffany (respectively)
>
> so..that would be amy 'coco" ray and emily "tiffany" saliers.

actually, "coco" and "tiffany" are not their middle names...
        ...they're the nicknames they gave each other in high school.

:)
anna

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sick except for the one who has it."
          -anonymous

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subject:      denied

hi all
i just thought i would  share my depression with everybody.  for my senior
project at my high school i was trying to get the indigo girls to play a show
( which i know they have done before at other schools)  and i had been trying
forever to get a response from their management and i was finally denied
today.  ok actually it was friday, but today i was officially denied by
russell carter.  : (   i'm very  sad.  just thouht i'd share my depression.
now it's on to make calls to rusted root and melissa etheridge's managers.

having a really shitty day,
sasha

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subject:      oh yeah

oh yeah and does anyone think i should call mr. carter back or fax him and
beg ???

sasha

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reply-to:     "kim : goddess in her own reality:)" <rcn@prcn.org>
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subject:      re: abc movie (nigc)

at 01:01 pm 9/23/96 -0400, cecile wrote:
a whole bunch of stuff that i kept nodding my head + saying "yes yes" to. i
watched the movie here at my girlfriend's place last night, and was both
disturbed + made hopeful by it. ( hopeful in that the lesbian character was
portrayed as a party-girl who smoked + drank etc etc etc... and was
considered a "good" mom untill she stopped the smoking, drinking + partying
+ settled down with a (gasp) woman lover. she was shown in a sympathetic +
positive light... as was the
effect of realizing she was gay + settling into that lifestyle... )
i'm still working things around in my head, and am not sure what i feel
about the whole thing. i'm just way blown away by the ridiculous double
standard + narrow mindedness of the people who actually gave custody to the
grandmother. poor sharon... to have her own mother refuse to validate her in
her accusations of abuse against her mother's boyfriend, + then turn on her
+ accuse *her* of being an unfit mother on the soul basis of her sexuality.
peace all... kim ( sometimes a goddess )
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     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      re: nigc- request for dar's early stuff
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ditto to that!

thank you,
elaine r.


on mon, 23 sep 1996, jasmine ma wrote:

> sorry for the total nigc, but i was wondering if anyone had any of dar
> william's pre-razor and tie stuff that they'd like to share in exchange for
> a blank tape and sase. or i'd be willing to trade ig stuff, but i haven't
> got that much.
> thanks
> jasmine
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subject:      nigc... denise please read.

denise eng, will you please email me, i lost your address and i need to ask
you something!
i would apologize for wasting bandwith, but really i don't feel sorry...

corinne

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subject:      re: uhh...middle names

well,  on the subject of names,  does anyone know if amy is short for
amanda?  or is her name just amy?

peace, love, and purple,
sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of otheris is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my sould wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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date:         mon, 23 sep 1996 20:22:48 +0100
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subject:      re: putumayo label (some igc)
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on mon, 23 sep 1996, cynthia a. crecca wrote:

> i also highly recommend their double cd release featuring "singer-writers"
> entitled "shelter."  a percentage of the proceeds from this cd go towards
> providing, well, shelter.   artists on this cd set include catie curtis,
> john gorka, cheryl wheeler, shawn (sp) colvin and more.
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

that spelling is right.   i think it comes from the welsh name sia^n (jane).

mat

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subject:      re: nigc: abc movie

i watched two moms for zachary last night.  i am still all puffy eyed from
crying.  it was so heartwrenching.  my housemate kept coming in and asking
me why i was torturing myself by watching it.  i told her,  well, this is
real life.   i may as well get used to it.   i don't think i should have to
get used to it though.  well, since i don't really have a point, just the
need to comment as an attempt to get over my depression.  actually,  does
anyone know anything about the actress who played jody's partner?  i've
never seen her before and i thought she was great.

peace, love, and purple,
sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of otheris is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my sould wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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subject:      sweet relief ii (nigc... i think)

there is a sweet relief ii benefit this friday the 27th of september at the
40 watt club in athens, georgia. i have no idea who will be playing.....
but i'll be at eddie's attic watching michelle malone play (see you there
sarah). the girls recorded a track for the album called "free of hope".

sharon

"i can't imagine having separate careers. my greatest fear is that it'll end."
                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

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subject:      cover me

howdy all!

ok, since sotw seems to have died (although we, personally, would love =
to see it revived) here is a thread we have been thinking about and =
would love to hear everyone's input on. we started cogitating upon this =
after we got joan baez's album, ring them bells (excellent, by the way) =
on which joan covers welcome me. it was really cool to hear someone else =
sing an ig song - hear how it was interpreted and all, and ig have done =
so much benefit work, so we were wondering, if we were the executive =
producers of a tribute to ig benefit album (oh the dreams!) what songs =
should make the album (let's say it's a double album, more ig!) and by =
which artists? it could be called cover me (sted welcome me) and could =
be a benefit for habitat for humanity (cover=3dshelter). now, if only we =
had the connections!!! i guess we will have to start with the songs and =
artists, though, so let your imaginations run wild! thanks for all the =
input. in maybe a week, we will post our double album setlist, and then, =
who knows . . .

feel free to email privately, but we think it would be more fun to share =
ideas with the whole list, which also would cut down on repeats. but =
y'all are so original, we bet there won't be much repeatin' anyway.

peace, love and dreams of covers,
susan and jocelyn

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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subject:      sigc - a gift

howdy all!

my beautiful wonderful girlfriend out of the blue has bought me an =
alvarez 6-string (used, of course). i guess she got tired of me saying i =
used to play the piano. i used to play bass. i used to follow my dreams. =
i am so excited. she also signed me up for lessons, and i talked to the =
guy, whose name was speedy (and should have been called sleepy). he =
asked me what kind of music i like, and of course, all i couid say was =
indigo girls, and uh . . ., well, indigo girls. i mean, i really do like =
lots of music, and all kinds of stuff, but my mind just went blank! so, =
my first lesson is this sunday, and speedy wants me to bring in a song =
that shows him what kind of music i like, and would like to learn. of =
course, it has to be ig! so, for all you guitar players out there, could =
you please suggest an easy ig song, keeping in mind the following: my =
first lesson is sunday, i am kind of a heavy amy person (esp. since i =
don't think i could ever play an emily song) and i am a strummy kind of =
gal. feel free to e-mail me privately.


peace, love, and open chords!

susan

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subject:      re: uhh...middle names

at 02:05 pm 9/23/96 edt, you wrote:
>on mon, 23 sep 1996, the woman of many names (claire) wrote:
>
>> << but does anyone know amy and
>>  emily's middle names ?? i was just wondering.
>>   >>
>>
>> coco and tiffany (respectively)
>>
>> so..that would be amy 'coco" ray and emily "tiffany" saliers.
>
>actually, "coco" and "tiffany" are not their middle names...
>        ...they're the nicknames they gave each other in high school.
>
>:)
>anna

woah...so i share a name/nickname with emily??? should i feel honored???
lol... that is pretty cool... um.. my best friends dog's name is coco...
whats wrong with this picture?

smiles!
tiffany (proud of her name!!)

      -----------------------:) h. a. n. d.! (:-------------------------
     hey y'all, come see....      |maybe you squandered big bucks in your
         my web page!!!!          |lifetime, now i have to pay.-emily saliers
   be sure to sign the guestbook! |this world was meant for me, don't bury
    http://home.ptd.net/~slugger  |me.  carry me.  --amy ray
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subject:      re: uhh...middle names
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you know the funny thing is that i have heard amy as short for
amelia...just like emily....
things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.....

on mon, 23 sep 1996, sundara wrote:

> well,  on the subject of names,  does anyone know if amy is short for
> amanda?  or is her name just amy?
>
> peace, love, and purple,
> sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)
>
> "...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
> dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
> through the oppression of otheris is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
> continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my sould wanders the
> earth..."
>                 --anastasia higginbotham
>
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subject:      re: cover me
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in-reply-to:  <01bba975.cc77ed60@teddie>

we had a similar thread recently with songs by other artists we'd like to
see ig cover...

but what i really wanted to say is that you would prolly get heat from
bruce springsteen's lawyers using "cover me" as a title, it's
copyrighted...

sorry to rain on that parade! :(  cool idea tho......

how bout tom petty doing pushing the needle...
the late blind melon doing galileo (somehow it just seems right...)
bruce would rock at chickenman...
catie doing mystery...

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subject:      lyrics/ignorance/and locations...

in a message dated 96-09-21 11:31:15 edt, you write:

<< i'll finally be
able to get  the lyrics down to "hey kind friend" :)
  >>


since i have only a laptop with no audio, and since i am a workaholic and a
hermit when i'm off...i can't tell you how much i appreciate the lyrics
posters.  i hear ig stuff only on the bit cd releases and have no boots of my
very own to treasure and enjoy. (weep weep for lil ole me)  can anyone tell a
newbie (who incidentally never eats grapenuts and hasn't ever smoked
pot...can you roll and smoke grapenuts?)  how to get a boot if she has
nothing to trade for it?

also, i feel rather stupid.  i don't know how to get the ig faq, which i'd
love even though it seems like it may be a bit outdated.  and although i've
tried to bide my time and lurk around the lists, waiting for enlightenment on
various subjects, i still remain ingorant.  what is "bumbershoot?"  can
anyone list for me all the ig stuff that i can simply walk into a big record
store and buy buy buy?  i mean i think i have all the readily available
stuff, but sometimes y'all spout off a title that i've never heard and i
start to cry 'cuz i want it too.  'kay, i'll stop pouring the syrup and tears
routine.

finally, are there any list members from houston or galveston tx?  can i get
an amen?

peace, love, and colored rocks,

amy

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 21 sep 1996

in a message dated 96-09-22 03:23:26 edt, you write:

<<  i did not see one list shirt at the concert-- >>


hey!  i want one.  who do i need to write?

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 22 sep 1996 - special issue

in a message dated 96-09-22 18:30:38 edt, you write:

<< question 1: if anyone on this list has quit smoking  and knows it can feel
painfully similar to having your fingernails slowly rubbed out with a cheese
grater, raise your hand (again, susan and a few others do so)

wasn't that painful for me, but okay--hand is raised

<<question 2: if anyone on this list has smoked cigs in the past or smokes
cigs
now, please raise your hand (susan and a couple hundred others on the list
raise their cyber hands)


hand is raised

question 2: if anyone on this list smokes pot or hash or your grandma's
dentures or used to, raise your hand now (susan and a few hundred others
raise
their cyber hands)


no, i couldn't get the dentures to light.  i smoke grapenuts occasionally
though.


mantra, mantra, mantra...that's what you should try.  ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

amy out

"there is an ancient proverb which says:  only nixon could go to china."

                                                                        spock

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 22 sep 1996 - special issue

in a message dated 96-09-22 21:23:41 edt, you write:

<< amy elizabeth ray &

emily ann(e?) saliers

(*their middle initials are the same as the first initials of
eachother--a.e. &   e.a--coincidence... ;)
  >>

believe it........
                             or not!

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subject:      nigc - gays and pot...no direct relation

i'm sorry.  i do see a point to what you are saying, but as a gay woman i
don't wish to fight this as a shared battle.  i can never love my girlfriend
"too much" but people can smoke too much pot.  i'm not of the opinion that
government should interfere in the use of pot or alcohol and i'm very into
keeping church and state separate.  but the battle to educate phobic people
about our gayness can only be hurt by sharing an agenda with people who want
pot legalized.  i wish you luck though.

amy


in a message dated 96-09-22 21:23:41 edt, you write:

<<                  gay
>                rights &
>                     weed
>                      by steven wishnia
>            last may's supreme court decision
>            overturning amendment two, colorado
>            voters' attempt to ban gay-rights laws in
>            the state, is a victory for rationality and
>            tolerance in dealing with people often
>            damned as deviants and degenerates--a
>            status shared by gays, lesbians and
>            pot-smokers.
                {....}
>             for one, gays and potheads
>            share a peculiarly invisible status. it is
>            difficult for those most directly affected
>            by antigay prejudice, or by antipot laws,
>            to come out in public and say, "this is
>            what i am, it's not harmful and i have the
>            right to do it," without contracting the
>            stigma of being part of the despised
>            group.

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subject:      nigc - embarrassing to be an american

i don't want to waste too much space with this, so...

and btw, this is not a flame...it is not directed at anyone, but to the
list...

we all share a love for the ig and know that it's about getting off our duffs
and doing;  a theme i might add that is found in jesus's message also (ie.
the word "believe" is a verb).   so if aspects about your government bother
you, let them know.  write the president (president@whitehouse.com).  get
friends and family to write.  join a group that labors to set things right.
support the human rights commission for example.  i am not a wealthy person,
i have about 3 calls a week from creditors. "yeah, yeah, the check is in the
mail."  but a dollar is better than nothing.  an email or snail mail is not
sitting silent and watching your nation turn against you.  and it's not
fanaticism either.

a & e are just people like you and me and we owe it to ourselves to let their
private lives alone.  they find their own ways to fight the battles that are
most important to them.  they are not great philosophers that we should all
bow down to.  what makes them soooo spectacular is that they say what needs
to be said in encourage action.  lets do the same.  that's what it's about,
right?

okay, so i can't summarize and be brief,  sue me.  it's really great to
e-hear you all!!!

amy

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subject:      nigc - movies and patriarchy...

if anyone is interested in the dumbest, most rediculous, horrible, and
embarrassing movie ever made involving a lesbian affair, than rent "french
twist".  it sucks!!!  but then again, imho, "claire of the moon" can never be
topped.

in a message dated 96-09-23 12:51:16 edt, you write:

<< rom:    kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject: re: nigc: abc movie

on sun, 22 sep 1996, jen lucero wrote:

>         evening everyone...i just caught the last half of the abc movie
> tonight.."two mothers for zachary" (or close to this) and all i have to
say
> is that i thought that neanderthals had gone extinct...
>
> looking towards a brighter future...jen

sorry to disappoint you, jen ... no, no, i'm afraid neanderthals never
really left us. the future is bleak indeed. for instance, did anyone
catch "a village affair" last week? patriarchy is alive and well, the
loudest grunt gets the grub, and..... as the unproduced screenplays pile
up on my desk i wonder why i am doing this at all!
know anyone who wants to make real movies??? anyone??? email me!!
kimlin@vcn.bc.ca    --- kim (north van) >>

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subject:      nigc: protestors of stuff

hey so i went on my city's aids walk yesterday and had a great time! but it
was one of the first times naive little me had been exposed to groups of
organized, anti-gay protestors. (incidently, there were also abortion
protestors, and people preaching bibilcal verses at us--tell me again how
this relates to finding a cure for aids!) the protestors earned their medal
for persistence though as soon as the lowflying airplane began circling the
lakefront, flying a banner that read "homosexuality is sin" can you imagine
what they must have paid for that 'ad?!' um, on the other hand there was
more rainbow pride than i could've ever hoped for, and i had a blast,
despite the scary, narrow-minded people and the layers of blisters on my feet!


~abigail


****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      re: cover me

susan tomlinson wrote:
> if we were the executive
> producers of a tribute to ig benefit album (oh the dreams!) what songs > should make the album (let's say it's a double album, more ig!) and by
> which artists? it could be called cover me (sted welcome me) and could
> be a benefit for habitat for humanity (cover=shelter).

good idea that hfh benefit, but i think springsteen might object to
"cover me" on copyright grounds. i just don't think "indicated" will
ever be equaled as an ig covers album title. anyway, paul simon (1) owes
back the ig a cover and (2) has to be shoehorned in here somehow 'cause
he's my favorite artist :^) so i had in mind "you and me of the 10,000
wars" for him. (yes, so people don't have to add bandwidth posting it,
bring artie along too if you can get those two in the same studio with
each other long enough).

also, diversity and an interesting take on things might result if
metallica did "touch me fall."

dave

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subject:      re: nigc:  it's almost embarrassing to be an american...
x-to:         jen hall <jenhall@juno.com>

hey..if you think that is bad what about the recent case in ? florida/ i
think?, where they took a child away from the mother( a lesbian) and gave
custody to the father( a convicted, albeit released, wife-murderer).
pretty weird. goes to show there is lots of work to be done.

on a lighter note..
y'all in the md/dc area.. watch for a group called big village
("worldbeat music"), fronted by 3 woman..they rock!

marilyn
(nursing a case of bursitis brought on by overindulging in a drumming
circle at the birds festival) (birds= baltimore international rhythym and
drumming society)


"if you're not cynical, you're just not paying attention." - forgot


i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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subject:      bumbershoot cancers

hey gang--

sorry to waste bandwidth, but i want to let you cancers know who have sent
requests for the bumbershoot boot that i have it now (thanks corinne!!)

it really is a fun show, so keep those requests coming!

see y'all later,
mary

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date:         mon, 23 sep 1996 22:06:20 -0400
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from:         jendy <edwina@jax-inter.net>
subject:      daemon records

hey y'all! got another pointless question... i just ordered a cd from daemon
and i was wondering... about how long will it take to receive my order? i
really don't care how long it takes. no rush at all; but i'm just curious.
so if any of you have ordered and received, please tell me when i should
expect to receive it. thanks plenty!! :)

your pointless ig fan,

jendy

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subject:      re: smoke this (sorta igc)
x-to:         susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu

in a message dated 96-09-22 15:33:18 edt, susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu (susan
b. marine) writes:

>the moral of the story: judge not lest you be judged.

you rule!!!

:)

jan

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subject:      re: cover me
x-to:         teddie@telepath.com

what a great thread !!  but, boy, what a topic.  i think this one will be
as much of a hit as the topic, 'what song would we not want to see ig
cover?'

my vote - or my first vote i should say...

dan fogelberg - ghost   - - he's too good.  he's got to cover one of
these.  his guitar style and vocal talents are wonderful.

john denver -- welcome me    - - his range is flawless.  got to get him a
song that shows this.

jokingly, i'd love to see abba do "hammer and nail".  couldn't you just
see agnetha and frida jumping around singing in those silver & gold
jumpsuits w/ large belts and platform shoes.  oh, god what a thought...
(what makes me more weary are all those younger folks on this list who
are wondering "who's abba?" )

ok.  i'm going to dunk my head in the toilet now..

see ya,
- jen hall


on mon, 23 sep 1996 17:34:08 -0500 susan tomlinson <teddie@telepath.com>
writes:
>howdy all!
>
>ok, since sotw seems to have died (although we, personally, would love
>=
>to see it revived) here is a thread we have been thinking about and =
>would love to hear everyone's input on. we started cogitating upon
>this =
>after we got joan baez's album, ring them bells (excellent, by the
>way) =
>on which joan covers welcome me. it was really cool to hear someone
>else =
>sing an ig song - hear how it was interpreted and all, and ig have
>done =
>so much benefit work, so we were wondering, if we were the executive =
>producers of a tribute to ig benefit album (oh the dreams!) what songs
>=
>should make the album (let's say it's a double album, more ig!) and by
>=
>which artists? it could be called cover me (sted welcome me) and could
>=
>be a benefit for habitat for humanity (cover=3dshelter). now, if only
>we =
>had the connections!!! i guess we will have to start with the songs
>and =
>artists, though, so let your imaginations run wild! thanks for all the
>=
>input. in maybe a week, we will post our double album setlist, and
>then, =
>who knows . . .
>
>feel free to email privately, but we think it would be more fun to
>share =
>ideas with the whole list, which also would cut down on repeats. but =
>y'all are so original, we bet there won't be much repeatin' anyway.
>
>peace, love and dreams of covers,
>susan and jocelyn
>
>" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
>keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray
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subject:      mistake? (nigc)

>your pointless ig fan,

ummm i didn't mean ig was pointless...i meant that i was pointless. i'm sure
y'all got that but i didn't want to get flamed you know. sorry :-/

jendy (who is pointless but thinks that the ig have lots of good points)

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subject:      re: uhh...middle names
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on mon, 23 sep 1996, sundara wrote:

> well,  on the subject of names,  does anyone know if amy is short for
> amanda?  or is her name just amy?
>

that would be most rad, but i think not....  =(
-mandy   (amanda c. warren)


> peace, love, and purple,
> sundara, who aspires to be a fire chief (laugh carrie!)

>
> "...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
> dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
> through the oppression of otheris is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
> continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my sould wanders the
> earth..."
>                 --anastasia higginbotham
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from:         jendy <edwina@jax-inter.net>
subject:      re: cover me

just a thought, but wouldn't it be great to see joni mitchell cover an emily
song, considering emily's such a huge joni fan and all? but which one???
i've got it!!!! fare thee well!!! wouldn't that be just perfect? lord, i can
almost hear it now :)

in heaven now,

jendy

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subject:      nigc--- seeking nashville info

hi all,

i am heading out to nashville tomorrow for a week and thought maybe some
listees might know some cool spots to go.  anyone with any info, please
respond via private e-mail.

thanks

rosemary
villa diodati music
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subject:      ig on mtv!!!

hey y'all-
    i am soo excited because tonight i heard power of two on  road rules, a
show on mtv.  (i actually hate to admit that i watch this show, but hey, at
least i know it is cool now!!!)  i was just excited because they were playing
an instumental part and i knew it sounded familiar, but i didn't place it
because i am so used to hearing it.  when amy and em started singing
"multiply life by the power of two"  i just freaked out.

*lauren*   who obviously leads an incredibly exciting life.
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organization: van waters & rogers
subject:      re: nigc - movies and patriarchy...

you do mean that "claire of the moon" can never be topped as a sucky
movie, right?

amy l.steinhilber wrote:
>
> if anyone is interested in the dumbest, most rediculous, horrible, and
> embarrassing movie ever made involving a lesbian affair, than rent "french
> twist".  it sucks!!!  but then again, imho, "claire of the moon" can never be
> topped.
>

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subject:      re: cover me
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i think peter gabriel could do an awsome version of three hits.  he'd have to
change it up a little, but i bet it would be neat.

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subject:      re: cover me
x-to:         elizabeth cadol <cadbart@aol.com>
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this has nothing to do with anything ig. but speaking of peter gabriel
has anyone heard his version of "suzanne"? moving!
thanks to all you non-deleters out there, ben

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date:         tue, 24 sep 1996 02:05:35 -0400
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subject:      re: cover me
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.960923222519.17281b-100000@email1.asu.edu>

i'd love to hear tracy chapman sing girl with the weight... and/or you and
me of the 10,000 wars.  now, that's exciting, folks...

veronica


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subject:      nigc: danielle howle... oops, my mistake

okay okay enjoy it y'all... especially jeni... i was wrong... <grumble>

        turns out we (we= myself & jeni - aka green lurker, aka my
non-imaginary beloved gf) will indeed be attending the seattle show at the
sit and spin... silly me to have thought that a previous family life sort of
engagement would deter jeni from attending said show... i stand corrected.
        we will be there!!!!  anyone familiar with the area and want to pick
a place to meet?

tracy

"isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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subject:      re: sweet relief ii (nigc... i think)
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on tue, 24 sep 1996, sharon jennings wrote:

> there is a sweet relief ii benefit this friday the 27th of september at the
> 40 watt club in athens, georgia. i have no idea who will be playing.....
> but i'll be at eddie's attic watching michelle malone play (see you there
> sarah). the girls recorded a track for the album called "free of hope".

thanks a lot, i just put a bit about srii onto my web page, and couldn't
think of the name of the song!

btw, does anyone know why this album was recorded?   is vic chesnutt
in some immediate difficulties (i mean i know he's paralysed, but he's been
like that for years)?

mat

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great, i had hoped this mailing list would be free of this sort of tosh.
can't people respond to private addresses and use this list to talk ig
stuff? i'm certain that's what it was designed for...
adieu,
paris

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subject:      need red light cafe setlist

hi guys, i need some help. i am supposed to send these tapes out to
someone tomorrow but i don't have a setlist for the red light cafe boot
(2/25/96). i cant find it anywhere. could someone please email it to me so
i dont have to send the boot w/o a setlist? thanks :)

please send it via private e-mail because i'm on the ig digest so i wont
see any replies sent to the list right away.

thanks!! :)
kristina

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from:         "s. lingwood" <lingwood@u.washington.edu>
subject:      re: cover me

okay, i've got it: abba doing "secure yourself". blasphemy? not quite.
here, picture for yourself:

<to the tune of voulez-vous>
<or at least the chorus part>

secure your seeeeeeelf (uh-huh)
to heaa-ven (uh-huh)
hold on tight, the night has come...

;)

-stephanie, who was just today listening to abba, and now has
voulez-vous permanently stuck in her head.....

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subject:      another red light cafe ?

ok, i have this weird situation. i have the "red light cafe" boot and i
guess i never listened to the 2nd side before because i don't remember
hearing this. the 2nd side starts out with michelle malone doing "dimming
soul" and then amy does "cut it out" and then emily sings and then they
both start singing a vic chesnutt song but it cuts off shortly into the
song. then the tape "burps" a couple times and we go into something
completely different.

the new sound quality is excellent, definitely a soundboard recording. i
can hear the audience very faintly in the background applauding after each
song. it sounds like just amy and her acoustic guitar and she only plays 2
songs. what is this?

ok first she sings a nice paul simon song that has the lines:

i met a young girl in the parking lot, she was preaching to the crowd . .
. i told her i was lost, she told me all about the pentacost... . . .
lying under the stars, playing my guitar, i was thanking the lord for my
fingers . . .

and then she sings problem child (says she's working on it).

oh, after the 2 songs she thanks carolyn for letting her use her guitar.
then some guy announcer type says "amy ray!" then it cuts off.

i dont remember who taped this for me, otherwise i'd ask them. :)
i'd like to know where this was recorded and if there are more songs she did.
i'd also like to know if my copy of red light cafe was cut off before yours.
did your copy cut off after the vic chestnut song started?

i still don't have a setlist for red light cafe so i can't determine if
it was supposed to cut off like that. thanks :)

kristina

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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      re: uhh...middle names

>well,  on the subject of names,  does anyone know if amy is short for
>amanda?  or is her name just amy?

morning 'all!  from deep within my reservoir of little known facts and trusty
floppies, comes this bit of news:

em's middle name is anne (begins with an a, that's cool)  and
amy's middle name is elizabeth... (now check that out :)  ea+ae=ig

some kinda cosmic balance there that i really like :)

jude :)

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subject:      red light cafe solved

ok thanks guys :) i have a red light setlist and the extra tracks were
solved... they were part of the original tapetree tape so it's supposed
to be like that :)

whew,
kristina

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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      women live from mountain stage

this came up a while ago, but i havent seen anythign recently.  so,
for those looking for it, it is finally out.  track list again:

ig:  strange fire
kd lang:  lock, stock and teardrops
ani difranco:  egos like hairdos
joan baez:  amsterdam
jill sobule:  i kissed a girl
emmylou harris:  sweet sorrow in the wind
dar williams:  when i was a boy
ann and nancy wilson:  the battle of evermore
victoria williams:  crazy mary
heather eatman:  hlaf of a woman
kennedy rose:  iron horse
shelby lynne:  reach for the rhythm

the ig track feels kinda flat to me...does have sara lee, scarlet rivera,
and jane scarpantoni.  no percussion.  i havent listened to the whole thing
yet (playing now, just started amsterdam).  it's in interesting release,
to be sure.


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subject:      re: cover me

wow!  this is really hard.  i find it very difficult to imagine anyone else
doing ig songs.  a&e's delivery of their words and music makes a complete
package;  its hard for me to separate.  but i'm gonna try.

rem - jonas & ezekial
sarah mclachlin - secure yourself
cowboy junkies - crazy game

nope.  this is too hard.  its not that i don't want to hear others record
ig songs; i do.  but i apparently left my imagination under a rock
somewhere, cause its just not happening for me today.

elizabeth anne bertiaux (today i actually like my legal name)

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                    then we sing the common call.....
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subject:      speaking of the red light cafe boot...

i'm hoping somewhat out there in listland can provide some info for me.
about a zillion years ago (ago it was really june but it seems like a
zillion years) i sent a blank tape off to jim driskell who was the virgo
branch of the red light tape tree.

weeks and weeks and weeks later (like in the month of august) i still
hadn't gotten my boot so i sent him a "hey, what's up with my tape?" note.
i got a response saying "i've been busy, but i'll send it out tomorrow." i
got excited. i shouldn't have.

low and behold it is now another season i still don't have my tape. i have
sent numerous emails to jim asking "what's up?". i have even said, "hey
forget about the boot, just send me back my tape." (the problem you see is
that i named the little fellow before i sent it off to texas. yes i know
that's where i really made my mistake. now instead of just blowing off the
loss of a blank tdk tape, i'm sitting here worried whether "teddy" is ok.
attachment should really be labeled an evil concept.)

anyhow, did anyone else have this much trouble getting the red light boot
from jim? did anyone _get_ their boot from jim? did anyone get my "teddy"?
any info would be deeply appreciated.

worried and sad,

deb

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subject:      re: nigc: danielle howle... oops, my mistake

>        we will be there!!!!  anyone familiar with the area and want to pick
>a place to meet?

and maybe some directions, please....  and also directions to the place in
redmond would be extra cool, i'll just admit how dumb i am cause i have
only a very slight idea where redmond might be located, so finding a
specific place will be extremly dificult.

jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net

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what i know is i don't know
when i'm sure it's only half the story
what i want is a house on a hill
but i'll settle for a moment of glory
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subject:      a question for my stats class..

can anyone take a guess as to the "mean" age of this board....

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 22 sep 1996 - special issue
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>
> "there is an ancient proverb which says:  only nixon could go to china."
>
anyone can can go to china if you want to.

welcome you -- listeer to go to china!

zhao

e-mail: zhaowg@bgumail.bgu.ac.il

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subject:      mean age..i knew this was coming

so far i've learned that the "mean" age is @25 but the "nice" age is
27...why do i ask..
actually if ya wanna  e-mail me , i'd appreciate it

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subject:      ellen degeneres... totally nigc

hey, has anybody else heard about ellen degeneres' plans to have her tv
character, ellen morgan, come out as gay this season? (finally!!!)   just
thought i'd post the fact she's going to be on letterman tonight, and rosie
o'donnell tomorrow, in case anyone out there was interested...  i'm sure that
recent "developments" will be brought up...

peace,
lisa

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     yes! and if you watched last weeks show it seemed to be going in that
     direction. especially when the realtor was showing little ellen doll
     and then mr. ellen and she said something to the affect "well that'll
     never happen"! wooooo...go ellen buddy! :)
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hey, has anybody else heard about ellen degeneres' plans to have her tv
character, ellen morgan, come out as gay this season? (finally!!!)   just
thought i'd post the fact she's going to be on letterman tonight, and rosie
o'donnell tomorrow, in case anyone out there was interested...  i'm sure that
recent "developments" will be brought up...

peace,
lisa

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subject:      re: ellen (nigc)

yeah, i heard she's supposed to come out, too.  she's bying a house, and one of
the episodes supposedly has her in the closet, checking it out, and she says
"it's big enough, but i wouldn't want to live in it".  i also heard (and where
i read it is so embarassing, i'm not even going to say) is that she's going to
meet some woman at a gay bar, except she (ellen) doesn't know its a gay bar.
the woman kisses ellen and *presto* televesion has its first lesbian lead
character...let's hope disney doesn't back out, huh?
its about time...poor ellen, must suck to have to go into the closet for your
tv show...must suck having a tv show (heehee)
cari


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subject:      claire of the moon (nigc)
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in a message dated 96-09-24 00:21:00 edt, you write:

>you do mean that "claire of the moon" can never be topped as a sucky
>movie, right?


yep i agree...claire of the moon could have been better. i know why and how
the film was developed but never the less... my vote for best lesbian film of
all time is entre nous.  quite an outstanding film and would be an
interesting follow up to the recent my two mothers as the film is based on
fact and was (i think) done by the children of one of the women in the story.
rent it and unless you speak french prepare to read!

michelle

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subject:      (nigc) call for ten days of truth

> heyya everybody...this got sent to me thought some of you would find it
interesting and informative...if you don't, just delete it.  that's all, *just*
*don't*  *look*.  its easy

>
> > ----------------------------original message----------------------------
> >                     refuse the politics of cruelty!
> >                           build ten days of truth
> >                       october 21st - november 1st
> >
> >                           it's all one attack...
> >
         ...and it is coming down in a landscape where forces like newt
gingrich, rush limbaugh, and the christian coalition are not just tolerated
as sane, but actually set the terms of debate. their platform includes
gutting affirmative action, slashing funds for education, gay-bashing,
passing anti-immigrant legislation, building prisons, ending welfare,
censoring the arts and media, and criminalizing african american youth.
> >
         in the past, student leadership and imagination have contributed
greatly to many social change movements. and today students have resisted
by speaking out, walking out, and organizing to demand relevant,
non-eurocentric, accessible education and otherwise protesting the politics
of cruelty. but the right's program for social control is becoming more and
more realized every day, and student opposition must become more
comprehensive and more organized. it is time to raise resistance to a whole
new level.
> >
         during october, the atmosphere around the elections will spark
debate around key issues nationwide. october is a time when voices of
protest must be heard, when people in colleges and universities, high
schools and whole communities unite to unleash a spirit of resistance.
> >
                    don't be someone who just lets it happen!
> >
         as a part of an entire month of resistance, refuse and resist! is
calling on students and teachers who will not lie down as the right tries
to impose a culture dominated by white supremacy, male supremacy, and
fundamentalist christian morality to take a stand by organizing teach-ins
during october 21st to november 1st.
> >
         during these ten days of truth we will expose the heartless,
scapegoating politics of the right and work toward bridging the divide
between whites and people of color, between immigrant and native born,
between gay and straight, between women and men, between student and
teacher. we will do this by using our greatest weapon against the politics
of cruelty:  the truth. the plan is to take the national stage in october
by making campuses from new york to san diego light up with visible,
diverse, coordinated activity. these teach-ins will be more powerful
because they are a part of a nationally organized effort and part of a
national month of resistance where thousands who are disgusted with the
current climate -- youth, lawyers, writers, doctors, clergy, artists,
students and many others -- will unite to speak out in a voice of
resistance.
> >
         a successful campaign will include teach-ins at schools, community
centers, youth programs, coffee shops, and every scene that students and
youth run in. it also needs town hall meetings, forums with knowledgeable
speakers, protests, cultural events and heightened consciousness-raising.
people everywhere can announce themselves as resisters with speak-outs,
demonstrations, raves, concerts, film showings, poetry readings and
anything else that educates and inspires. during these ten days of truth
let's give accurate information that challenges public misconceptions.
let's listen to opinions and encourage honest debates. let's integrate
knowledge with action, and unite with people everywhere under the
conviction that we can change things.
> >
        * distribute this call far and wide.

        * support  this effort by sending stamps, calling cards, and money.
> >
        * contact  refuse & resist! for an organizing pamphlet with facts,
                 resources, and positions on key issues; statements by
                 prominents to be publicized; and guidance for setting up
                 a teach-in.
> >
        * get word out to all who oppose the politics of cruelty through
                 stickers, flyers, posters, and zines.
> >
        * speak out with letters to school or local newspapers, and
                  announcements on tv and radio.
> >
            * contact gioliver@vassar.edu for more information. *
> >
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subject:      re: nigc: abc movie

as a certified resident of virginia (gag...) i thought i'd toss in my two
cents.  i didn't see the movie but have been reading about the case and have
had the ultimate pleasure of reading several editorials by nameless goons at
the richmond times-dispatch (not my favorite paper :)  the last i heard
(which was fairly recently, so might not have been in the movie) was that she
had gotten new (but not better) custody arrangements.  now she has custody of
tyler (i think that's the kid) for every other weekend or one weekend a
month, something like that, but it has to be at her apartment and her partner
can't be there.  so...what, hey honey, can you move out for the weekend?
seriously!  in answer to something someone posted, virginia does not have
enough gay activism.  i read about a gay teacher's meeting, similar to those
happening around the country with a lot of success and pride.  the one in
virginia was held in utter secrecy (until the media got ahold of it) and the
organizer had to assure everyone who came of their confidentiality.  even
then, lots of people changed their minds knowing that the media knew, even
though there were precautions taken.  the organizer held it at his home and
had friends patrolling the streets - just in case.  it's a depressing state
to live in.  it's where jerry falwell lives!  however...just yesterday there
was a gay pride event in richmond, at which candace gingrich spoke and
disappear fear played (and i missed...argh!)...it takes a long time for
change to happen, especially in the southern states, i think.  but little
steps...it makes me disgusted with the nation, but the angrier i get the more
energy i can have to change things, right?  as amy (see, igc!  :) said "turn
your anger into energy"...
hoping,
katy

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subject:      re: entre nous?!!
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um hello!!!!
just 'between us'...<:)>

hello? hello!!!! entre nous? please. enough. film major here. french
cinema 405. the new wave...entre nous? best lesbian film of all time?
don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)

my vote for best lesbian film of
> all time is entre nous.  quite an outstanding film and would be an
>  rent it and unless you speak french prepare to read!
>
> michelle
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subject:      nigc-danielle howle, getting closer.....
x-cc:         jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>

        kay, so the time draws nearer... anyone who needs directions to the
oly show (thursday) contact jeni (saulinoj@olywa.net).  friday is the show
in redmond at the old firehouse.  now, i was going to be really nice and
call them and get directions for y'all (and myself) however they did not
answer when i called them... closed is my guess.  the number is 206.622.7686
should i forget (possible) to post once i do get the directions.  saturday
is the sit and spin show in seattle... admission will be a measly $6.  their
number is 206.441.9484.
        as far as pre-activities, i currently only know of our plans to meet
at some goat place (jeni's department, can you tell?) for the oly show. i
would love to do the same for the redmond and seattle shows... but i am even
less familiar with those cities than with olympia... so i am not sure where
the best goat place would be there. :-)
        a reminder as the dates are practically on top of us:
western washington dates for danielle howle:

thurs, sept 26  olympia  midnight sun 8pm $5
        (we will be meeting list folk at a place called something about a
goat that i can't remember... anyhow, we are meeting at 7pm-ish and contact
jeni (saulinoj@olywa.net) for the directions and proper name.)

fri, sept 27    redmond  old fire house 8:45 pm their number - 206.622.7686
        i think we should plan meeting and packing this place as well! i
will try to get directions later on for here too... contact me if you want
them. (sundara? how 'bout you plan this one?)

sat, sept 28    seattle  sit and spin   doors open 9pm, starts 10pm $6
        their number is 206.441.9484.  i hereby will attempt to twist
karey's arm into planning the get together for this one.... heh heh.

sun, sept 29    portland (oregon) the o  5:30 pm their number -  503.790.2870
        i know absolutely nothing more about this show... jeni and i will
probably decide to go or not go that morning... where are all our oregon
listers?!?!  c'mon y'all... you'll love this artist really.  trust amy's
label if you don't trust me... :-)

and, my self-appointed wardrobe coordinator has apparently committed me into
wearing the list shirt to these shows to make us easier to locate... so
other clues: i am 5'3", longish brown hair that needs a cut in the worst
way, glasses, will have the ig-l shirt on (and will try to wash it each
night so you can't, like, tell who i am by odor...lol), blue jeans most
likely, and black fake keds hightops.  most likely i will be hiding behind
jeni as i am actually terrified of social situations.
        perhaps i should convince the green lurker to take on the ig-l shirt
requirement for one of these shows... for hygienic reasons alone...

        tracy <really looking forward to meeting y'all again!>

        anyone planning to boot these shows?
"it's my job to exaggerate"
                -- rosie o'donnell

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i dunno... my meager offerings would go along the lines of:

jefferson airplane doing touch me fall
the dead doing i don't wanna know (jerry does the high parts)

whatever... dinner calls...

alec

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subject:      re: cover me

how about:
* dar williams on the wood song
* ani doing keeper of my heart or hand me downs
* joan armatrading on crazy game
* patty larkin's ghost


~abigail

****************in the words of emily saliers:******************

"there i am in younger days
stargazing, painting picture perfect maps
of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed ten million miles of road i should've seen"

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subject:      mr. limes, or not?

you're going to laugh, but i think in "shame on you" amy says, "let's go pluck
chickens in the middle of the night up in gainesville town."  it is a well
known fact that gainesville is the chicken capital of the world.  they use a
lot of migrant labor and, if the reputation of this industry is correct, treat
their workers quite badly.  they do a lot of shift work, and do, in fact,
pluck chickens in the middle of the night.  the part that doesn't make sense
is why she would invite anyone to go and do this!  : )  any thoughts?  lizzie

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subject:      re: entre nous?!!

at 03:37 pm 9/24/96 -0700, kimberly hobbs wrote:
>best lesbian film of all time?
>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
>
i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
peace all... kim (who wonders what the sotw is... i'm way out of touch with
my computer hidden here:) )
and tracy... my dear sweet friend... in referrence to a past post of yours
that somehow snuck past me...i *am not* a closet abba fan:) how dare you
besmearch my reputation so... ( so i once owned a white satin jump suit,
stack heeled boots, a blonde agnetha wig and every abba record that was
every minted... achem... it was a phase, i tell you... a phase... i'm
cured... just ask my mom) :-) need i start telling all about your die-hard
addiction to plaid + the bay city rollers?????:)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
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     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
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hey kind friends....

okay, i'm going to take a stab at this...
nancy sinatra - "touch me fall"
pat boone - "secure yourself"
hank williams - "crazy game"
the pogues - "jonas and ezekiel" (hey, now there i have something)

but seriously: calm down!!! chill..
i would truly love to hear joan armatrading, sara mclachlin, suzanne vega
and bjork take on an ig song.. any one of them, i love them all.

punchy cos i'm catching a cold --- kim (north van) peace ya'llxx

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three words... "shame on you"    i think you've answered your own
question, now we all know about migrant workers and their plight, shame
on the exploiters... yay for amy, enough analysis..

punchy kim in north van  peace all, direct vitamin c to me..

on thu, 24 sep 2009, elizabeth paulk wrote:

> you're going to laugh, but i think in "shame on you" amy says, "let's go pluck
> chickens in the middle of the night up in gainesville town."  it is a well
> known fact that gainesville is the chicken capital of the world.  they use a
> lot of migrant labor and, if the reputation of this industry is correct, treat
> their workers quite badly.  they do a lot of shift work, and do, in fact,
> pluck chickens in the middle of the night.  the part that doesn't make sense
> is why she would invite anyone to go and do this!  : )  any thoughts?  lizzie
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in a message dated 96-09-24 18:49:42 edt, alec@nyc.pipeline.com (alec heller)
writes:

<< jefferson airplane doing touch me fall
the dead doing i don't wanna know (jerry does the high parts)
  >>

um, i think it would be pretty difficult to get jerry to do the
project....very, very sad.  i was thinking about that today, how i would have
loved to hear the dead covering kid fears. but it's really not the same
without jerry... but the ig's cover of uncle john's band rules!!

anyway, here's some more ideas:

southland in the springtime- nanci griffith
tried to be true- pretenders
girl with the weight of the world in her hands- mary-chapin carpenter
walk away- eric clapton
prince of darkness- sting
touch me fall- bob mould
joking- melissa etheridge
watershed- joan osborne
hand me downs- dave matthews band

ok, that's enough for now.  of course, *nobody* can do these songs like the
ig can!

wow, that's really weird- the final jeopardy answer (or should i say,
question) just now was 'jerry garcia'.  <twilight zone music playing>
doodoodoodoo

-sheri : )

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

  _       _ ------ _               o      |....when you learn
{  ~\_/         o   \    o  o           |to love yourself
{  ~ _   ]          <  o                 |you will dissolve
{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
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>from meeting other listers and seeing, in general, the audience of
concerts, i'd say 24.

ok.  now i'm going back to my shell...
- jen hall


on tue, 24 sep 1996 12:37:23 -0700 pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net> writes:
>can anyone take a guess as to the "mean" age of this board....
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okay!  i must be really out of touch or something.  what is this shirt
you all are talking about?  is there an image of it on the web?  how much
is it?  does anyone think it will become a collector's item because of
the "demo" thingy stamped on it?
thanks for reading all my dumb questions.  someone answer them, please?

                                                        tuesday's child

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well, georgia is in the south too, but it seems to be a more liberal
state as far as gays & lesbians go.  now, i may be speaking ignorantly,
but i wouldn't think a&e would live in and support a state that was
anti-gay, like virginia seems to be.  many of you have spoken about gay
pride week that was last month or so.  am i wrong?  i was always under
the impression that most southern states were conservative.  here in
houston, i don't see near the openness that i saw (and enjoyed) in
minneapolis.  in minneapolis, i'd hang out at city center and see blacks
& whites dating, gays, lesbians, straights, etc.  and everyone was
comfortable.  it's not like there were all whites on one side looking at
all the mixed couples.  but here in houston, it seems that you stick with
your own.  and it's sad.  here, i sit in a bar inhaling cigarette smoke
listening to awful kountry (spelled wrong on purpose...<g>) muzac.
yuck!!!  and it's hicks wall to wall.  everyone with a reba mcentyre
(sp?) accent.  god i miss minneapolis and all its culture.  *sigh*

anyway, for those other listers that live in the south, is your state
conservative in their views to gays and lesbians?  because it's obvious
that virginia (as beautiful as it is), is b-a-c-k-w-a-r-d-s.  they really
need a clue.

goin' back in my shell...
- jen hall


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date: tue, 24 sep 1996 16:45:02 -0400
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as a certified resident of virginia (gag...) i thought i'd toss in my two
cents.  i didn't see the movie but have been reading about the case and
have
had the ultimate pleasure of reading several editorials by nameless goons
at
the richmond times-dispatch (not my favorite paper :)  the last i heard
(which was fairly recently, so might not have been in the movie) was that
she
had gotten new (but not better) custody arrangements.  now she has
custody of
tyler (i think that's the kid) for every other weekend or one weekend a
month, something like that, but it has to be at her apartment and her
partner
can't be there.  so...what, hey honey, can you move out for the weekend?
seriously!  in answer to something someone posted, virginia does not
have
enough gay activism.  i read about a gay teacher's meeting, similar to
those
happening around the country with a lot of success and pride.  the one in
virginia was held in utter secrecy (until the media got ahold of it) and
the
organizer had to assure everyone who came of their confidentiality.  even
then, lots of people changed their minds knowing that the media knew,
even
though there were precautions taken.  the organizer held it at his home
and
had friends patrolling the streets - just in case.  it's a depressing
state
to live in.  it's where jerry falwell lives!  however...just yesterday
there
was a gay pride event in richmond, at which candace gingrich spoke and
disappear fear played (and i missed...argh!)...it takes a long time for
change to happen, especially in the southern states, i think.  but little
steps...it makes me disgusted with the nation, but the angrier i get the
more
energy i can have to change things, right?  as amy (see, igc!  :) said
"turn
your anger into energy"...
hoping,
katy

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jen hall wrote:
>
> >from meeting other listers and seeing, in general, the audience of
> concerts, i'd say 24.
>
> ok.  now i'm going back to my shell...
>  - jen hall

wow, looks like i am finally (as of yesterday) above the median age
somewhere. hmmm...i guess that's only good for a short while before
people start calling you old. 8^)

oh yeah....

i guess no one picked up the duties for the birthday list. 8^(
(insert pitiful whine here)

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ani doing blood and fire


                               jamie a suthard
                        <suthardj@ralph.southwestern.edu>

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>
> well, georgia is in the south too, but it seems to be a more liberal
> state as far as gays & lesbians go.  now, i may be speaking ignorantly,

a & e live her in atlanta. i consider atlanta to be the execption to the
south. it is a liberal island in the great bible belt ocean. just a 10 minute
drive (from downtown) to cobb county will put you in an area that has all
kinds of anti-gay resolutions. the olympic torch was not taken through
cobb county because of their anti-gay resolutions. so yes georgia is as
backwards as every other southern place. by the way cobb county is the
home of newt gingrich. i vote in north carolina even though i go to
school here in atlanta, (go harvy gantt!) so i know what it's like to live
in a place that is completely opposit of you. georgia tech, my institute
of higher education, is also an island of conservatism in the liberal city
of atlanta (at least i think it is). just hoping to clarify that georgia
is indeed a backwards state (in my opinion).

eb

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for all the other morrissey fans

morrissey doing a medley of

girl with the weight of the world in her hands/ boy with a thorn in his side

elizabeth

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ahh!  my first lesbian movie, i remember it with great fondness.  as, no
doubt, my lover (at the time) does also.  ;)
i'm also partial to "claire of the moon".  i thought "go fish" and "the
incredibly true adventure of two girls in love" were also a hoot.  a
friend of mine recently recommended something called "bar girls", which
he says is hysterical.  haven't seen it yet but plan to.  i think i just
mentioned every major lesbian film of the past decade, did i miss
anything?  always looking for new and interesting forms of
entertainment.  (he he  ;)  )

                                                tuesday's child


on tue, 24 sep 1996, kimberly hobbs wrote:

> um hello!!!!
> just 'between us'...<:)>
>
> hello? hello!!!! entre nous? please. enough. film major here. french
> cinema 405. the new wave...entre nous? best lesbian film of all time?
> don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
>
>  my vote for best lesbian film of
> > all time is entre nous.  quite an outstanding film and would be an
> >  rent it and unless you speak french prepare to read!
> >
> > michelle
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ooo, ooo!

sarah mcclachlan doing "ghost"!

more as i come up with them.


                                shivering with pleasure from the thought!
                                tuesday's child

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subject:      igc: bumbershoot boot.. help!!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
        my aquarius person's address bounces... can another of you
tree-people help me?  i will throw myself at the mercy of anyone... i really
want this boot...  :-(
        please please please please?  i have a nice happy tape all ready
here right by my computer just waiting to be recorded onto....

tracy <desperate>

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        the things we find to fall in love..."
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subject:      nigc.  abba   (was: entre nous?!!)

kim...now you and i have had extensive conversations about abba.  (anyone
know how i can turn that first "b" around??)  and i poured my heart and
soul out to you...and told you i actually bought the abba clogs - and
wore them in high school religiously (i was  a lonely child....).  you
never mentioned that you had a white satin jump suit and  agnetha wig.
*sniff* *sniff*   gee, i thought we were pals......

*sniff*  *sniff*
- jen "still has all abba records and abba videos" hall

oh, by the way...all those fellow listers that recommended "muriels'
wedding" - - it was a great "abba" movie.  hey halloween is coming up.
kim, why don't you dress as agnetha one more time and have your hubby
take a picutre an we can get it out on some web site....<hee hee>


on tue, 24 sep 1996 15:51:31 -0700 "kim : goddess in her own reality:)"
<rcn@prcn.org> writes:
>that somehow snuck past me...i *am not* a closet abba fan:) how dare
>you besmearch my reputation so... ( so i once owned a white satin jump
>suit, stack heeled boots, a blonde agnetha wig and every abba record
that
>was every minted... achem... it was a phase, i tell you... a phase...
i'm
>cured... just ask my mom) :-) need i start telling all about your
>die-hard addiction to plaid + the bay city rollers?????:)
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
> "pain from pearls-hey little girl-
>     how much have you grown?"
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subject:      nigc: ack!! redmond dh goers read this!!!!!

ack!! a very very very busy and wonderful person who actually lives in
redmond (and who i am not sure if i may relate her name, but you know who
you are and thank you thank you thank you!!!!) let me know that i was given
bad bad bad info !!!!
        *****the correct info of the place danielle howle is playing in
redmond on friday is :
>it's just called the firehouse.  the address is 6001   140 ave.
>ne, redmond, wa  98052.  the phone number is:  (206) 869-5665.

        so ignore what i typed about this place!!!!  the handwritten part of
my postcard from dh was incorrect and i am really really sorry!!!! i will
call them a little later tonight and post that info, kay? i am so so so
sorry for relating bad info...

tracy <hoping to be forgiven sometime this year perhaps?>

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hi y'all,
  just to let people know....i have enough volunteers for the tree.  will
post again when it is in place and branches have their tapes.  thanx for
everyones help.

peace,
amy

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>        kay, so the time draws nearer... anyone who needs directions to the
>oly show (thursday) contact jeni (saulinoj@olywa.net).

warning: i am not good at giving directions, but i can try :)

>        as far as pre-activities, i currently only know of our plans to meet
>at some goat place (jeni's department, can you tell?)

wow, my own department cool...

>        a reminder as the dates are practically on top of us:
>western washington dates for danielle howle:
>
>thurs, sept 26  olympia  midnight sun 8pm $5
>        (we will be meeting list folk at a place called something about a
>goat that i can't remember... anyhow, we are meeting at 7pm-ish and contact
>jeni (saulinoj@olywa.net) for the directions and proper name.)

dancing goats, downtown.....so how's that for directions?

>
>and, my self-appointed wardrobe coordinator has apparently committed me into
>wearing the list shirt to these shows to make us easier to locate... so
>other clues: i am 5'3", longish brown hair that needs a cut in the worst
>way, glasses, will have the ig-l shirt on (and will try to wash it each
>night so you can't, like, tell who i am by odor...lol), blue jeans most
>likely, and black fake keds hightops.  most likely i will be hiding behind
>jeni as i am actually terrified of social situations.

but i'm afraid too...so we'll both be hiding..  i'll be wearing my daemon
shirt.
ok maybe i'll wear the list shirt to one of them...maybe

>        perhaps i should convince the green lurker to take on the ig-l shirt
>requirement for one of these shows... for hygienic reasons alone...

jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net

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tracy chapman-virginia wolf
tori amos-airplane
frente!-hammer & nail
simon & garfunkel-love's recovery
mellisa etherege-bury my heart at wounded knee
natali merchant-power of two


.........what do you think?


                                jonny

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date:         tue, 24 sep 1996 18:39:16 -0700
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subject:      re: mr. limes, or not?

ok, it has to be lets go roll some chickens in seattle downtown.

i actually saw this and tracy can back me up. there really are rolling
chickens there.


jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net

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some more untraditional choices:

too much joy - chickenman
frente! - airplane
syd straw - pushing the needle too far
jill sobule - watershed
rem - world falls
david byrne - joking (i don't know why...it just popped into my head)

the list goes on...
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subject:      things that just should not be heard (nigc)

"cover me" couldn't get any better than this.

courtney love is singing duran duran's hungry like the wolf right now on the
mtv unplugged rerun.

whuh?

susita conchita alonzo

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subject:      virginia (nigc spinning out of control)

jen hall wrote:
> anyway, for those other listers that live in the south, is your state
> conservative in their views to gays and lesbians?  because it's obvious
> that virginia (as beautiful as it is), is b-a-c-k-w-a-r-d-s.  they really
> need a clue.

well, i live in virginia. i'm not trying to defend it here, so flame not...this
is more just a point of info. i live in northern virginia, near dc. every once
in a while an exasperated northern va. state senator or rep suggests only half
jokingly that some of the northern counties, at least fairfax, prince william,
and loudoun if not also others, should secede and form the state of north
virginia. usually it's over the issue of the southern part of the state sucking
down our taxes and not giving back as much highway funding as we scream for.
but the point is, there's a pronounced difference bewteen nova and sova. i
lived in boston two years, and i found that supposed liberal hotbed to be
conservative and old-fashioned and separationist (by race i mean) compared to
northern va. i haven't really spent enough time in sova to speak about it from
experience, but friends of mine who went to uva found the "locals" somewhat
backward, and that's only halfway down the state. granted, the laws of the
commonwealth apply throughout so i'm not trying to say we northerners are holy
because we disagree with them suthners. in fact, activists would say we suck
because we stand by and let these things become law when we know better.

dave

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subject:      can you overdose on good music?

try this for a twist of fate...
i had *incredible seats for tori, she cancelled, we to refund my tixs, dave
matthews goes on sale, scored dave tixs and they are fairly good seats
(kinda big compared where i last saw him but...)
but the show i *really* wanted to see was pearl jam in augusta me. sold out
in 4 min. yes, no joke, so i had been posting on usenet looking for tixs,
and sat. i was willing to scalp so i called a scalper then he told me to
call back because smashing pumpkins are going onsale, so i hung up and said,
"cool, i did not even know" so i got through and got sp tixs.
sunday night i receive an reply from my endless posts for augusta tixs, got
a number, called and got tickets at face for me and my friends. i go
thursday, and yes, i am psyched!


is tracy chapman touring at all on the eastern seaboard, i like, would give
blood to see her (and i would have to take my latin professor who is a
goddess and is gay and is so supportive of my disabilties and culture stuff
it makes me shutter to think what i would do without her guidance. i think
she was at the helen nearing reading i went to- prof. not tracy..)

lots of stuff to do, so little time
mike r.

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subject:      chiapas & zapatistas on ig demo tour (long)

hi y'all,

during several of the southwest stops on ig's demo tour they had this
guest speaker, cecilia rodriguez, talking about chiapas and the
zapatistas.  cecilia's talk was really moving and i especially liked the
way it was incorporated into the set.  everyone listened quietly and
respectfully (unlike how i heard some audiences talked over new slow
songs), and i've transcribed cecilia's talk here--it's from the las
cruces, new mexico show on 8/24.  i've been in contact with cecilia's
organization and apparently things have gotten much worse down
there since the ig show, and if you wanna be included on an email list to
find out the latest and learn what else you can do, i've included an
email address to write to at the end.  [the words are theirs, the typos
mine :) ]

amy began the encore by coming back onto the stage alone and saying:
we have a really special treat tonight.
audience person: doughnuts?
amy: doughnuts?  i had a doughnut today...i crave them everyday and i broke
down.  we, emily and i, started this campaign with three different groups
called the indigenous women's network, the seventh generation fund, and
the indigenous environmental network and we have this campaign called
honor the earth where we raise funds and give grants to groups working on
indigenous environmental movements and sustainable community development
in defense of homelands.
[applause]
one of the projects that we funded was down in chiapas where there's a
women's art co-op that--they're having some trouble down there, as a lot
of y'all may know, and we funded this project--i went down there a few
weeks ago to check out the situation and the zapatistas were hosting the
conference on neo-liberalism, talking about nafta and gaat and the
globalization, and trans-national companies
[someone yells "boo"]
[amy laughs and continues] and the civil war basically that's going on,
and the many effects, negative effects, of the economic globalization of
our world.  so tonight we have a very special speaker.  she is a
representative of the zapitistias in the united states.
[applause]
she's from the us commission for democracy [something, can't hear].  please
welcome cecelia rodriguez.
[applause]

amy leaves and cecelia comes on stage and says:
thanks a lot amy.  when i first got here amy gave me this press clipping
from the new york times that said that the zapatistas tour that she was a
participant in was "mud, blood, and radical chic," and she said, "what do
you think about the image that they're pushing now?"  and the only thing
that occurred to me is that what they're trying to make the zapatistas
into is what they are not--which is this image, this romantic figure of a
group of indigenous people who took up arms.  and what is really there is
a lot more than that.  the zapatistas are really about 30,000 indigenous
people who speak 6 or 7 different languages, who are dying of dysentery
at the rate of 15,000 per year.  the zapatistas are women who go to work
at the age of 6 and what they do is go for firewood so that they can cook
their meals and feed their families, married by the age of 14, two kids by
the age of 16.  and the lives that the men and women were living there
were no longer tolerable, and no longer acceptable, and the coming of
nafta meant that their rights to their livelihood, which was their land,
was gone.  now instead of growing corn for their families they had to
grow strawberries for export.  so they declared war on the mexican
government, on january 1st of '94, and the press tells all of you that
the zapatistas--#1 they tell you that they don't exist because they
tried to hide the terrible, terrible crises and the terrible problems
that mexico is going through, and #2 they tried to tell you that they're
a left group, that they're disputing the right-wing, or the middle-wing
or whatever it is that they're calling it, but that's not true.  what the
zapatistas are fighting for is an opportunity for life.  a life of
dignity.  and the reason that they had to take up arms is because they're
invisible.  they're invisible in the way that the disabled are, the way
gays and lesbians are, they way that women are, the way that poor people
are.  and it is because of that invisibility  that they took up those
arms.  and now everyone wants them to be quiet.  they want them to be
quiet because of nafta, because of the political campaign in the us
that's going on right now, because the zapatistas are sitting on the
largest oil deposits in north america right now.  they want them to be
quiet and they want them to dissappear.  and how are they trying to win
their silence?  well, they've tried to buy them off first, and when that
didn't work they sent 65,000 troops, they militarize the villages, they
carry out selective campaigns of murder by organizing paramilitary
groups.  and they also used the weapon of rape.  and this is something
that i guess i can share with you because in october of last year i was
gang raped by 3 armed men, of 4, who were dressed as zapatistas, and what
they asked me after they were done with me was to shut up.  just to be
quiet about chiapas.  and i'm here to tell you tonight that this is what
they've produced--they have not shut me up.
[30 seconds of applause, cheers, yells]
i can't see any of you [the stage lights were on her], so you're
invisible now like the zapatistas.  but i think that this need to silence
the zapatistas, and to silence a growing number of people who have been
left without a voice in this day of corportism, where the only thing that
matters is corporate profits, is one of the things that i'm asking you
tonight to stand up against.  we really need your participation, we need
your help, we need for you to stand beside the zapatistas, and i know
that i was meant to be here tonight with you, to speak with you, and
maybe out of this crowd a few people will come out and begin to make this
movement grow.  this is not a movement of the left, this is not a
movement of a bunch of ideologies.  this is a movement of human beings.
of human beings who have a right to life.  and who have a right to a life
with dignity.  and what that means is housing, health, education, decent
jobs--the things that every human being should have in this world.  so
this is a particularly important moment right now--the zapatistas are
supposed to go back to peace talks on the 4th of september; there have
been 16 people held in prison, 7 of them were sentenced last thursday,
they were sentenced to 6 years in prison; they have commando units armed
and ready to go--in one of the villages that amy visited is where there's
the largest commando unit--where their intention then is to make a rapid-
lightening military strike the way that they did in the persian gulf.
and they want this to happen behind your back, and they want this to
happen with your sanction and with your approval.  and so i'm asking you,
before you leave tonight, there's some letters out in the hall, there's a
table where we're selling some arts and crafts that the zapatistas
communities make--please buy them, please sign the letter, give us your
name and your phone number.  most of all, give us your hand so that the
hope that we're creating will continue to grow, and so that opportunity
for life, that the zapatistas are fighting for, and that i survived for,
can be realized.  thanks a lot to all of you.
[applause and cheers]

ig plays shame on you....

i was really moved by cecelia's talk and by amy and emily's committment to
this stuff that they incorporated it into a concert like this.  i think
it's great the way a & e do their activism--it's in their music, but the
songs haven't changed to become didactic or preachy, still just as
wonderful as always.

so if you wanna find out the most current situation, and other stuff you
can do to be involved, you can email this group at the following address:
moonlight@igc.apc.org
and ask to be put onto their mailing list.  they don't have an automatic
listserv thing like the ig list, but camilo (who's a really nice guy)
will manually add you to the list.

i'd be interested on your thoughts on this stuff, so if you wanna email
me privately that'd be cool (because i recently got overwhelmed with
life-stuff and had to unsubscribe from the ig list :(  but i'll
definately be back again sometime :)  and thanks to everyone for all the
great igc (and even the nigc)!!

take care y'all,
peace,
donna

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subject:      the dead & uncle johns band

>>>um, i think it would be pretty difficult to get jerry to do the
project....very, very sad.  i was thinking about that today, how i
would have loved to hear the dead covering kid fears. but it's really
not the same
without jerry... but the ig's cover of uncle john's band
rules!!<<<<<<

i like both the dead's version of uncle john's band and ig's.
different though as ig has a tendancy to remember the words to their
songs.

melissa

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> "cover me" couldn't get any better than this.
>
> courtney love is singing duran duran's hungry like the wolf right now on the
> mtv unplugged rerun.
>
> whuh...

actually, courtney was a huge duran duran, echo and the bunnyman, etc. fan
in the early 80's.  i wish she would rely on her influences more.

>
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i wish i were a trinity
so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live

-emily saliers

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subject:      map t-shirt

>>>>okay!  i must be really out of touch or something.  what is this
shirt you all are talking about?  is there an image of it on the web?
how much is it?  does anyone think it will become a collector's item
because of the "demo" thingy stamped on it?<<<<<<

map tshirt was available on the demo tour.  possibly not available at
certain festival shows (newport & bumbershoot).  description:
increadibly plain.  indigo girls in script on back with tour dates &
map & demo tour on front, i believe.

price:   on the hi-side @ $22.

i have a few extra fm new york.  interested people:  dont expect to
be astounded.  could be a collectors item fm ig's "minimalist" t-
shirt period.

email me if you're interested.

melissa

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subject:      re: cover me

peter, paul, and mary - history of us
that's all i can think of right now.

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does anyone know in which country gay marriage is legal?

please e-mail me if you know asap!  (paper due soon...)

thanks so much!!

sing, sing, sing,
lisa

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a good friend of mine that is a writer for the ellen show says this will not
be happening .they discuss it all the time and are really not sure that they
want to open this can of worms this year.i always push for it but i guess it
will happen when it can do so without jepordizing the popularity ratings.and
frankly ,for some reason lesbians don't show up in the <gasp>neilson ratings.
    sorry to burst this bubble..we'll all have to be content to know
instinctually!!!!!

                                                                    laurabell

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subject:      feminism (for women only? nigc)

hey, it seems that for some reason, men are not considered to
be feminists.  if a feminist is a *person*, (please correct me
if i'm wrong) who believes in equality for women, that women can
and should be allowed to think for themselves.  that women be
allowed make their own decisions as to what happens to their own
bodies.  to be allowed the same opportunities in life as men, to
be paid equally for equal work and so on.  then why, if a male
believes in these things, he is not also considered to be a
feminist?  and why do some people consider that label as a
negative thing?  what are they afraid of?

i guess that leads to the next question?  what then is a non
feminist?  a maleist?  a *person* who believes that by some
genetic rite, that males are somehow owed all the breaks in life?
that just because a person is male, they should be paid higher
than a female that is doing the same job?  that they should be
considered first for a job, even if they can't perform as well
as a women for the same job?  it seems like this maleist, is
either pretty insecure or very self centered.  maybe both!!!

some food for thought.

a feminist and proud of it!
- - howdy...

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subject:      (nigc)  ellen on rosie's show

hi folks, don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not, but ellen degeneres
is supposed to be on rosie o'donnell's show tomorrow.  perhaps they'll discuss
the new plot twist for ellen's show.  i would imagine that would be awkward
subject matter for *those* two to be discussing on national television.
ahem, er, did someone mention something about a closet earlier? (g)

joan :)

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on dave letterman tonight...ellen said it was coming....

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subject:      peter, paul and mary?

dear ig tribe,

peter, paul and mary who?  i'm kidding.  i'm 43 and i know perfectly
well who pp&m are.  guess this brings the "mean" age of the list up a
notch or two, eh?

actually, the first time i heard the indigo girls they reminded me of
pp&m.  folk.  comes around, goes around.  you are a rabid lot.  i'm
glad.

take care

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subject:      re: peter, paul and mary?

peter, paul and mary who?  i'm kidding.  i'm 43 and i know perfectly
well who pp&m are.  guess this brings the "mean" age of the list up a
notch or two, eh?

i'm 18, and i love peter, paul, and mary, so sorry, forrest, but i don't
guess this brings the mean age down any. i just have parents who also
care about my "good music" education. i also like ccr, the mamas and the
papas, bob dylan, nitty gritty dirt band, billie holiday, patsy cline,
the eagles, van morrison, and many others.

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subject:      nigc: skinny puppy

   sorry to waste bandwidth, but i am doing a favor for my roomie. does
anyone happen to have a boot of a skinny puppy show or anything related to
this group? she is really desperate for a boot! pulease e-mail me if you have
any info on this. thanks for reading!

later daze...
margot

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subject:      nigc: delusional goddess

obviously only moments from being taken away by very nice paramedics in
white uniforms, kim our goddess of delusions babbled on about:
>and tracy... my dear sweet friend... in referrence to a past post of yours
>that somehow snuck past me...i *am not* a closet abba fan:) how dare you
>besmearch my reputation so... ( so i once owned a white satin jump suit,
>stack heeled boots, a blonde agnetha wig and every abba record that was
>every minted... achem... it was a phase, i tell you... a phase... i'm
>cured... just ask my mom) :-) need i start telling all about your die-hard
>addiction to plaid + the bay city rollers?????:)
        i never sneak!  heck i posted it to a gazillion ig friends of ours!
i was careful to conceal the bit about how when i met you irl at the faerie
terminal you arrived in flared white pants, huge heeled clogs, and wore a
rather fetching rhinstoned white vest/silk shirt combo... oh and that
carefully parted right down the middle hair of yours?  see, i have
self-control.  gee... it would sure be a shame if i accidentally sent this
to the list huh. muhahahahahahah!!!

        and as far as the bay city rollers... you are still a wee bit before
my time... i am sorry to report i was a mere child then of under 10. i
wasn't allowed to buy records as "groovy" as that... lol.  feel free,
however, to make fun of my grease phase.

tracy <slickin' back her hair and dancing around in a tight black tanktop
while singing "greased lightning!"  not sure how to get sideburns tho...
hmmm....>
"it's my job to exaggerate"
                -- rosie o'donnell

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subject:      nigc: preview danielle howle on the web

for those of you who can't decide whether you want to actually have to be in
the same general area with us wierdos... just a little note that daemon has
some samples of danielle howle (as well as other great artists) for download
from the web.  the daemon homepage is:
www.monsterbit.com/daemon/

the samples are at:

http://monsterbit.com/daemon/daemonav.html

give her a listen then come to the shows!!!

:-)

tracy

"it's my job to exaggerate"
                -- rosie o'donnell

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subject:      (nigc)  looking for rosemary

um, i hate to waste bandwidth, but i'm trying to reach rosemary, who will
be traveling to nashville tomorrow/today.  i tried to e-mail you with some
tips for seeing nashville, but my e-mail was returned...something about
an unknown host or something.  please write me if you haven't already left!

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subject:      soy.. backing jeni up

my non-imaginery green lurker gf buddy pal fellow-dork jeni actually posted
the following:
>ok, it has to be lets go roll some chickens in seattle downtown.
>
>i actually saw this and tracy can back me up. there really are rolling
>chickens there.
>
        i totally back jeni up.  we indeed saw rolling chickens yesterday
(monday for the pacific time zone impaired) in downtown seattle.  and, we
being the total dorks we are... we both immediately looked at one another
and sort of sang/talked the lyrics. (neither of us can sing!) (not that i
have heard jeni, but i beleve nearly everything she tells me) thus, we are
certain now that the soy lyrics go:
        "let's go roll some chickens in seattle downtown" ... to heck with
whatever ig put on the lyric sheets. we know we are absolutely right... in
our little bizarre realities...

tracy <thrilled to see the grrl formerly known as the green lurker post
twice in one day! whooooo hooooo!  i am such a bad influence!>

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subject:      re: things that just should not be heard (nigc)

susita made me fall to the floor in pain when she posted:

>"cover me" couldn't get any better than this.
>
>courtney love is singing duran duran's hungry like the wolf right now on the
>mtv unplugged rerun.

        please tell me this is a horrible joke? i cannot imagine... and am
filing this mentally under "things i just did not need to know about"

tracy <oh be quiet, g.l., i am not necessarily ranking on that particular
person, just noting that the thought of that song coming from her mouth...
shudder....>
"it's my job to exaggerate"
                -- rosie o'donnell

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subject:      nigc (still) dh shows... the plot thickens

now jeni.. you are going to scare the nice listers when you say things like:

>>        kay, so the time draws nearer... anyone who needs directions to the
>>oly show (thursday) contact jeni (saulinoj@olywa.net).
>warning: i am not good at giving directions, but i can try :)
        tsk tsk!!  okay all you brave... errr... i mean wonderful listers
coming down here for this show... should the directions we are sending out
seem scary.. contact me again and i will set up some super easy meeting
place right off of i-5... really tho, it is so easy to get around downtown
oly. i promise.  cross my heart, swear on my 1200 curfews cds.

i also noted:
>>and, my self-appointed wardrobe coordinator has apparently committed me into
>>wearing the list shirt to these shows to make us easier to locate... so
>>other clues: i am 5'3", longish brown hair that needs a cut in the worst
>>way, glasses, will have the ig-l shirt on (and will try to wash it each
>>night so you can't, like, tell who i am by odor...lol), blue jeans most
>>likely, and black fake keds hightops.  most likely i will be hiding behind
>>jeni as i am actually terrified of social situations.
        to which the my coordinator replied:
>but i'm afraid too...so we'll both be hiding..  i'll be wearing my daemon
>shirt.
>ok maybe i'll wear the list shirt to one of them...maybe
        update: i may get a haircut before the show... maybe.  perhaps i can
work out a deal with you, jeni... you wear the list shirt one day if i get a
haircut?  you know how badly i need one... lucky to see the kb...
        further update: so i guess we will be really easy to locate as we
will be the two who keep trying to hide behind each other... this paints one
heck of a mental image....

tracy <who actually managed to find where i was going with directions from
jeni like, "there is an intersection with 3 roads. one is mine and the other
is gallagher cove."  y'all see the problem here? lololol!!!>
"it's my job to exaggerate"
                -- rosie o'donnell

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subject:      re: entre nous

just wanted to clarify-
although i too loved this movie about two french housewives
circa 1950's finding more fulfillment together than with their husbands;
i distinctly remember an interview with the movie-maker who was one of
the women's daughter-she said that there was no physical relationship
between the two women
so whether you call this a lesbian movie or not may depend on your
defintion
of "lesbian"
but that's a whole 'nother discussion

gynergy

to be what you are is one thing
to be what you want--now that's something else
ferron "sunken city"

http://members.aol.com/gynergy/index.html

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subject:      we are their number one fans, dammit!!

hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
you suckers!

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subject:      my cat (not much igc)

my cat just died.  i wish i could write a song for him, as beautiful
as secure yourself....

kirsten in van

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subject:      re: chiapas & zapatistas on ig demo tour (long)

[snip]
> conference on neo-liberalism, talking about nafta and gaat and the

i know it's picky, but it's gatt: general agreement on tariffs and
trade (it's amazing the bad habits you can pick up as a law student).

otherwise, thanks for the post.

kirsten in van

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subject:      re: nigc (still) dh shows... the plot thickens

ellen is on right now!!

>tracy <who actually managed to find where i was going with directions from
>jeni like, "there is an intersection with 3 roads. one is mine and the other
>is gallagher cove."

and your forgot the invisible horses....

>
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what i know is i don't know
when i'm sure it's only half the story
what i want is a house on a hill
but i'll settle for a moment of glory
                                -df, sr

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subject:      nigc(but short): ellen on letterman

bahahahahahahahahahahahaaaahahahaahahah <choke> hahahahahahahahahahahah
<sputter> bahahahahahahahahahahah <gasp> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tracy <proud to be "functioning as a lesbian">

"so your character may be functioning as a lesbian?"
                -- paraphrased from a poor memory after rotflmao, david letterman
interviewing ellen  25 sept 1996

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subject:      (sigc) indigenous people
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apologies in advance for the length, the minimal igc, and to those who might
be offended by the political nature of this post  *

thank you, donna, for transcribing ms. rodriguez's speech for us. i was very
moved by what she said, and i just wanted to share some thoughts with
everyone.

i am filipino, and as such am a citizen of a country whose colonization was
included in the us's plan for "manifest destiny." (some of you may have
read/heard amy using this term -- if my memory of history classes serves me
right, this term was coined by president william taft, in a speech he gave to
congress. it was a sort of blanket justification for taking over all the
lands in north america not yet appropriated at that time, and extended all
the way past california, across the pacific ocean, to the philippines.)  our
history has much in common with that of the mexicans. after 400 years under
the spanish, we were colonized by the us for 50 years. i believe we are the
only country to ever be "officially"  colonized by the us.

anyway, i had been deeply struck by the whole situation in mexico involving
the zapatistas, ever since things first started happening a couple of years
ago. their message & their struggle are urgent, important ones  ones that i
think will find relevance in many countries. particularly my own. i am
honestly very surprised that the same kind of thing hasn't happened yet in
other countries.

the fight of native americans in north america, and indigenous people in
south america, is the same as the one being fought by indigenous people here
in asia and australia. here in the philippines, we have many different tribes
of indigenous people, and the focus right now is _ancestral domain_.
basically, it seeks recognition from the government that indigenous people
have the right to certain lands that are traditionally and historically
theirs, and should take care of and manage those lands for themselves.
related to this, of course, are cultural/economic/political rights. the
situation gets sticky because corporations want to mine, or log, or put up
power plants in these places.

it makes me sad to realize that, though we have been oppressed as a nation
for so many centuries, we in the ethnic & economic majority of the
philippines (like that of mexico) continue to oppress those in our country
who have less power.  it is a common struggle for marginalized peoples
everywhere.

a few years ago, i had the great honor of meeting rigoberta menchu, a winner
of the nobel peace prize for her work in fighting for the rights of
indigenous people in south america. (she is from a tribe in guatemala.) if
there is anyone of whom it can be said that they radiate with purpose, she is
it. the fact that she came to the philippines during her year as the laureate
sent an important signal to me that the asian and south american people could
draw strength from one another.

i hope that, someday soon, as the honor the earth campaign continues to grow,
it will become an international alliance that could include support for
groups in asia fighting for the same thing.

my respect and admiration for amy and emily grow exponentially as they
continue to demonstrate their commitment to this cause. i keep thinking, if
emily had gone with amy to chiapas, imagine the kind of snide remarks they
probably would have gotten about "radical chic" or white middle-class guilt
which they continually risk being accused of even now.

thanks for reading, and i hope everyone keeps learning more about the
struggles of indigenous people.

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subject:      nigc re: cover me
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yes yes yes!!!

run, do not walk, and get "tower of song" !!!

awesome!! and so many other awesome tracks on there...(tho i skip thru
aaron neville, elton and willie nelson...normally i'm an elton fan but he
destroys "i'm your man", imo...and cannot stand aaron...willie's not so
bad but i prefer johnney cash's cover of bird on a wire...)
anyway, ben, thanks for bringing it up!
on mon, 23 sep 1996, benjamin slavin wrote:

> this has nothing to do with anything ig. but speaking of peter gabriel
> has anyone heard his version of "suzanne"? moving!
> thanks to all you non-deleters out there, ben
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subject:      blue food

in a random discussion with a friend about eating habits, nutrition,
cultural influences on food, and the like, i picked up some
interesting tidbits that i thought the list would be interested in.

(note that i am leaving off any discussion of the ethics of a study
such as this as well as the related question of whether cookies can
really be considered "food:)

it seems some anthropologists were doing a study on food.
specifically, the color of food and how it affects a person's
likelihood to enjoy said food item.  this study was done on an
indigenous tribe somewhere that had been pretty much isolated from
modern "civilization" up to this point.

the scientists gave the tribepeople various sorts of food, and it
turned out they -really- like chocolate chip cookies.  so many batches
of chocolate chip cookies were made using different food colorings
and taste tests were conducted.  there were no differences between the
cookies other than color.

as it turned out, the color of the food greatly affected how much the
people liked it.  specifically, the blue cookies fares the worst.  the
conclusion reached was that people just don't tend to like blue food.
it is believed that this is somehow connected to the fact that there
are no naturally occurring food items that are blue.  even blueberries
aren't, really.

anyway, i don't suppose anyone knows if the girls' blue food has any
connection to this? :)  i thought it was really cool when i heard the
story, and my first reaction was, of course, to point out the
coincidence..

    -jude

ps: note that i'm leaving out the ethical considerations of such a
study, and the related question of whether cookies ought to be
considered "food" etc etc...  :)

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subject:      wonderstuff do closer to fine

can anyone tell me where i can find the wonderstuff's cover of "closer to
fine"?   a while ago i posted to the list asking this and was told it was on
the "full of life ep".   i've looked for this ep just about everywhere and
not only could i not find it, but i couldn't find any record of it in the
music master catalogues either.   is this the right name for the ep?   it was
released in 1993, probably a single off "construction for the modern idiot".
any ideas, anyone?

mat

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subject:      ellen

i know ellen is definitely nigc (though i wonder whether a or e are
fans of her) but its so cool to see her mentioned on the list.  she
is definitely one of the better imports from the states...i
absolutely love her show...i can be in fits of laughter for ages.
but we don't get letterman or rosie over here, so we limited to a
half hour show every wednesday night...and i never miss it!
so whats the deal with her character on the show...are they talking
about the series at the moment or one that is being written?
she's excellent and i hope she takes the world by storm!.
just happy to see her mentioned :)
love helene
"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky"   kate wolf

helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster
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subject:      re: nigc 2 moms actress

sundara wrote: <i watched two moms for zachary, does anyone know
<anything about the actress who played jody's partner?  i've never seen
<her before and i thought she was great>

me, too.  i couldn't find her name in my local tv guide or the newspaper,
etc.
anyone?

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subject:      glam 96, ellen, greta (sigc)

-   gay/lesbian music awards 1996 - anyone know when it is supposed to
    happen?

-   okay, i'm confused (in soooo many ways!) - i realize there are
    rumours that ellen's character may be "coming out" in the show,
    is the actress herself a lesbian?

-   greta from wa - i need you to get in touch with me regarding you
    nff boot tape, i lost your e-mail!


denise e.

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i was watching clear and present danger, with harrison ford, and she
plays a member of the coast guard in the opening scene. of course, i did
the same thing i did when i saw "two moms" - i forgot to look at the
credits. ) =


peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      feminism: not for women only (nigc)

--- you wrote:

a feminist and proud of it!
- - howdy...
--- end of quoted material ---

hey howdy...i wanted to email you personally but your address confuses the hay
out of me!

of course men can be feminists! i am so proud of my male feminist friends....it
takes a lot of guts ato be able to stand up for what is right in the face of
the privilege that makes life so much easier as a male.

i do, however,  think that it's okay to preserve some women-only places where
women can feel totally comfortable just being with other women. i am not a
feminist-seperatist, but i think women should be able to have spaces they
designate for themselves. ie the michigan womyn's music festival.

okay enough from susan "ptts" marine

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here are some of my picks, first as medley's with the artists own songs:

chickenman - bruce, with atlantic city of course  (they blew up the
                            chickenman in philly last night ...)
land of canaan- bruce again, this time with promised land and badlands.
left me a fool - lorrena mckennit, expanded to include the lady of
shalot.
hey jesus -  xtc,  dear god/hey jesus

second, as a return cover:

touch me fall - dire straits, in all their refined glory.

finally, just because i think they would be great:

ghost - gotta be sarah, though there are others she could do too.
i don't wanna know - proclaimers
love's recovery - joan armatrading
kid fears - billy joel
history of us - catie curtis
watershed - dar williams and anne weiss
three hits - carol noonan

and how about "hand me downs" as a title?

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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did someone just tell me the truth...rosie and ellen came out and kissed??
someone tell me what happened...it's not on here until 3pm.

                               jamie a suthard
                        <suthardj@ralph.southwestern.edu>

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subject:      unplug america date?

greetings to all in indigo land!

i was wondering if anyone could tell me the date of unplug america.
i am assistant director of an after school program and want to do
a week long theme and develop some cirriculum about conservation of
our natural resources and how other cultures survive without all the
immenities and conveniences we have like electricity, cars, etc.
i need a little time to prepare for it, so if someone could tell me
the date that would be great.  thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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but do u feel that way about every ie should men have the same place for
themselves and all that goood stuff i mean we have have a latino club and
stuff like that but not a white mans club for only white men just to be
with white men(no im not a racist at all thats totally against my
upbringing im just pointing out a fact)


on wed, 25 sep 1996, susan b. marine wrote:

> --- you wrote:
>
> a feminist and proud of it!
> - - howdy...
> --- end of quoted material ---
>
> hey howdy...i wanted to email you personally but your address confuses the hay
> out of me!
>
> of course men can be feminists! i am so proud of my male feminist friends....it
> takes a lot of guts ato be able to stand up for what is right in the face of
> the privilege that makes life so much easier as a male.
>
> i do, however,  think that it's okay to preserve some women-only places where
> women can feel totally comfortable just being with other women. i am not a
> feminist-seperatist, but i think women should be able to have spaces they
> designate for themselves. ie the michigan womyn's music festival.
>
> okay enough from susan "ptts" marine
>
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subject:      kristen hall tix, boston fs

hello all again!

i just found out that i will be unable to attend the kristen hall
show at the sommerville theatre (right outside boston) on sat.
oct. 5th at 8:00pm, due to a class i am taking which is meeting
that entire day, and will not get out until 7pm.  since i am 2 hrs
from boston, i will need to miss the show in order not to fail this
class.  let's cut to the chase

2 tickets   8th row    $13.50 each

i can mail them to whoever wants them priority, so you will get them
within 2 days.

luckily kristen will be playing in my town, northampton then next night,
so i will be able to catch that show.  had i known she would be in my
backyard, i would never have got the tickets for boston, but this show
was just announced last week.

thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      kristen in boston

folliowing up deb's post, if you donjt get her tickets, but do want to
go to this show, you can get tickets by calling 617-628-3390.  it is
at the somerville theatre in somerville.  lineup (in order of
appearance) is richard shindell, kristen hall, barbara kessler, and
the burns sisters.  i have also been told kristen will be playing for
a good hour.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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subject:      fav movie

>>best lesbian film of all time?
>>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
>>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
>>
>i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
>seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
>on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...

i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
favorite lesbian movie.

roxy

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subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
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i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!

yours,
chris ii

on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:

> >>best lesbian film of all time?
> >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
> >>
> >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
> >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
> >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
>
> i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
> favorite lesbian movie.
>
> roxy
>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      ig and native american organisations

can anyone send me details about some of the native american groups the igs
have been working with over the past couple of years (eg the indigenous
women's network).   i have had people asking me through email for information
about them, but i don't have it, and would also like to put some of it on
indigo index.   does anyone have such info (poss. including email and "snail"
mail addresses)?

mat

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hey y'all,

this was just in the iowa state daily (actually i read it monday but
only just got caught up on my email again after the weekend's posts) and
thought i'd pass it on... (reprinted without permission, oh well!)

"the national alliance of breast cancer organizations has teamed up with
mercury records to release 'women for women 2'.  the record is a follow
up to the first ever all-female album dedicated to increasing breast
health awareness.

"sheryl crow, amy grant, celine dion, jann arden, *indigo girls!!!*,
[emphasis added by me |] joan osborne, vanessa williams, carole king and
tina turner make contributions to the record which will provide special
liner notes listing vital resources and breast cancer facts."

they didn't happen to mention when it would be released, but we can hope
soon...

take care all,
naz

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subject:      nigc- re: desert hearts and other chickx2 flicks
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hey tuesday's child and all,

now.. let us see. yes.. incredible adventures was groovy. bar girls was
funny, i'd recommend it. go fish is the best of these three. i mentioned
a movie last week called "a village affair" i am in canada so wtn played
it and i don't think you get that in the states. look for it on pbs.
anyway, it was great until the end. what follows is a small sample of flicks
with undertones of lesbian relations if not outright openness*

hotel new hampshire (jodie foster and nastasia kinski)
siesta (jodie foster and ellen barkin)
the rainbow (sammy davis and amanda donohoe)*
anne trister (french, don't know the actors)*
little vera (russian - natalya negoda)*      enjoy, peace, kim (north van)

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on wed, 25 sep 1996, susan b. marine wrote:


> i do, however,  think that it's okay to preserve some women-only places where
> women can feel totally comfortable just being with other women. i am not a
> feminist-seperatist, but i think women should be able to have spaces they
> designate for themselves. ie the michigan womyn's music festival.
> >


okay...i've been really out of it lately, but can anyone give me more info
on the michigan womyn's music festival?  (i live in michigan, but didn't
know about it.

love aim


i wish i were a trinity
so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live

-emily saliers

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subject:      my cat (nigc)

i'd just like to thank everyone who have sent me letters of support.
i hope my cat (montague) is now lounging around in the sun in cat
heaven with all of your feline friends who have also passed on.  if
your cats are all as friendly as you guys, then he's in good company.

thanks.

kirsten in van

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subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
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i have to agree with you on one thing, sister my sister is one of the
most enthralling films i have ever seen.  the cinematography is
absolutely mind blowing.  i felt like a majority of the scenes were like
looking at actual artwork rather than a piece of moving film.

the fact that the foundation of their relationship is incest, is another
issue, and i'm sure will raise a few here to vote against it as a
positive portrayal of lesbians.  but, the plot is fascinating, the acting
is incredible, and the ending is....well, i don't want to give it away.
you have to see this movie!

oh, by the way, i'm new here. my name is lisa, i'm rather new to the
indigo girls, having just been given swamp ophelia as a gift a month
ago.  i absolutely love it, and am now completely voracious for more!
i'm planning on getting another cd this weekend....any suggestions as to
which i should get, if i can only get one?

i'm usually a bit of a lurker, but i really enjoy reading all your
posts, and who knows...you may see me throw in a word or two every now
and then. :)

lisa


on wed, 25 sep 1996, christine talbot wrote:

> i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
> true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
> wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
> complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
> tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
> have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
> true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!
>
> yours,
> chris ii
>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:
>
> > >>best lesbian film of all time?
> > >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> > >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
> > >>
> > >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
> > >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
> > >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
> >
> > i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
> > favorite lesbian movie.
> >
> > roxy
> >
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subject:      scrabble and babble (nmigc)

hello! =)
      sorry, i lost the original message, but someone said something to the
effect of "imagaine the indigo girls having a srabble tournament!"  all i can
say to that is that emily would _slaughter_ the competition! :0
      i just got the elastica cd and _love_ it! =)  anyone second that?
      i also just got the new don conoscenti and you all need this! =)  it's
worth buying if only for the title track! =)  it's _great_! =)
      i guess that'll be all for now.  peace, love, and concerts, sarah
(barenaked ladies tonight and michelle friday! =) )

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i'm trying to find info on the indigo girls fan club... and why they
skipped houston this year!! am i in the right place??
danh@genosys.com

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hello! =)
      i just deleted that message, but did somebody by this name write to the
list about the faq?  do you live in atlanta, by any chance?  peace, sarah

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susan wrote:

> i do, however,  think that it's okay to preserve some women-only places where
> women can feel totally comfortable just being with other women. i am not a
> feminist-seperatist, but i think women should be able to have spaces they
> designate for themselves. ie the michigan womyn's music festival.

i reply:
let me preface this by saying that i am a card carrying member of now and
fully support women's right to both social and legal equality. however,
statements like the one above make me bristle at being called a feminist.
equality means equality in all cases, not just in select ones.

susan supports "some women-only places where women can feel totally
comfortable" being with other women. does she support places where men
can gather to the exclusion of women so that they can feel comfortable
with each other? what if that place is a board room? a school? a rock
concert?

in the 1970s, the era, which could have been a great step forward for
gender equality, was voted down, *by women*. feminism was ready to tackle
equal pay for equal work and the right to choose but it wasn't ready to
give up privileges like draft exemption and preference in custody
hearings. equality was sacrificed to self-interest.

just why is legitimate for a rock concert to exclude men? why do
"feminists" laud the integration of the citadel (which i support) without
questioning the legitimacy of all-women's schools like smith and barnard
(although these are private schools, they recieve federal funding and
therefore fall under the purview of the 14th amendment)?

something is sexist if it discriminates against one gender. which gender
is being harmed should not matter.

flame away but be kind. ( =

peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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from:         naz <nazman@iastate.edu>
subject:      smoking rumors, rolling chickens
x-to:         iglist@iastate.edu

hi all,

recently there have been some posts about whether amy & emily smoke,
what they might smoke, etc., and i'd just like to remind folks that the
information that reaches this list is really really hard to
verify... not to impune (sp) the reputations of anyone on the list, but
i think it's important to remember that *anyone* can say *anything* in
this medium, and it takes on an aura of truth.  it wouldn't be hard for
someone with an anti-ig agenda (for whatever reason) to damage their
reputations.

rumors can get out of control so easily... someone says they saw a&e
toking on a number and suddenly we're talking about whether or not they
should, how disappointed we may or may not be, etc.  nevermind the fact
that it might not have been as it appeared to the observer (coulda been
a hand-rolled cig that they were joking with, who knows), or that we're
taking the word of someone most of us only know through the list
(again-- i have no reason to not believe the poster, i can't even
remember who it was, but i am not saying they're bad or anything), or
that it's plenty easy to have an account pirated, and we know there are
some mean-spirited folks out there who enjoy causing trouble.  we need
to take most of what we hear here with lots and lots of very large
grains of salt.  (again, apologies to the original poster!)

oh, before i go... i heard that amy likes to roll her own chickens...

take care all,
naz

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subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)

i totally have to second this.  this movie was fascinating as was "heavenly
creatures" (both based on true stories).  i like both of these over claire
of the moon, bar girls, and especially, go fish (yuk - guess i'm not
artsy-fartsy enough to appreciate it)!!!  i still root for dessert hearts
and  the incredible true story.... as worthy flicks.

betsy

>i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
>true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
>wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
>complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
>tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
>have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
>true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!
>
>yours,
>chris ii
>
>on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:
>
>> >>best lesbian film of all time?
>> >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
>> >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
>> >>
>> >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
>> >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
>> >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
>>
>> i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
>> favorite lesbian movie.
>>
>> roxy
>>
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subject:      re: feminism (for women only? nigc)

howard wrote:
>
>i guess that leads to the next question?  what then is a non
>feminist?  a maleist?  a *person* who believes that by some
>genetic rite, that males are somehow owed all the breaks in life?
>that just because a person is male, they should be paid higher
>than a female that is doing the same job?  that they should be
>considered first for a job, even if they can't perform as well
>as a women for the same job?  it seems like this maleist, is
>either pretty insecure or very self centered.  maybe both!!!

to me, a non-feminist is a person (could be male, could be female)
who simply doesn't recognize that women have different needs,
desires, and experiences than men.  just as there are degrees (and
different manifestations) of feminism, i believe that some
non-feminists are more extreme than others -- there are those who
are out-right chauvinists (maybe these folks would be yer
'maleists'), others who just don't seem to be politics-minded
enough to want to get involved in changing the status quo re gender
roles (the apathetic majority), and then all those folks somewhere
in between, including those who may say they support women's rights
but, for whatever reason, are reluctant to call themselves
"feminists".

in other words, i (and my very favorite roomie) believe that being
non-feminist is more a function of being unaware of the ways in
which gender inflects experience and operates as a system of
privilege, and due less (in some cases) to believing men should be
sole beneficiaries of social/political/economic goodies.

after all, being feminist means occupying a political position.
but more than just rhetoric, i think feminism is a way of life.
it's a way of interacting with people, attending to what they say,
attempting to understand others' experiences, providing support and
encouragement, and standing behind what one believes in no matter
how unpopular the position.

yikes...did this make sense?!
cecile

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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: women for women 2 w/ ig!
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> "the national alliance of breast cancer organizations has teamed up with
> mercury records to release 'women for women 2'.  the record is a follow
> up to the first ever all-female album dedicated to increasing breast
> health awareness.
>
> they didn't happen to mention when it would be released, but we can hope
> soon...
>

this is out now.  saw it in a record store last week, but opted for
"women live from mt stage" first.

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from:         margaret clayton <maclayto@mtholyoke.edu>
subject:      nigc: trades with me

if you are not involved in a trade with me, you can delete this message now.

ok, so i accidentally deleted my "trades" folder and am up the creek a
little bit.

there is one person out there who ordered cover me grey from a branch
(not me) a while ago and got screwed.  are you still out there?  i have
the tape and will send it to you if you are.

also, there are like three other people who i am trading with now--the
list of what i was sending you was lost in the folder.  would you please
contact me via private email?  i would appreciate it.

thanks a bunch, and sorry for the nigc and bandwidth,
margaret

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subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
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christine talbot wrote:
>
> i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
> true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
> wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
> complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
> tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
> have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
> true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!
>
> yours,
> chris ii
>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:
>
> > >>best lesbian film of all time?
> > >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> > >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
> > >>
> > >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
> > >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
> > >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
> >
> > i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
> > favorite lesbian movie.
> >
> > roxy
> >
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wondering why it wasn't mentioned on the list of movies with lesbian
content.  she thinks she is showing her age!!!
rhonda

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from:         kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
x-to:         monet <monet@mo.net>

ok, since i slammed claire of the moon i'd better throw in my 2 cents
about what i do like.  so, it's a toss-up between desert hearts and a new
(1995 i think) movie, "night is falling", directed by the same woman who
did "i heard the mermaids singing".  it has beautiful cinematography,
real characters, & kind of a surreal cast to the whole thing.  actually
it's definitely surreal but in a charming way.  there, that's my stab at
lesbian movie reviewing... now go see it for yourselves! (run don't walk,
etc etc, probably to the local video store at this point)

as for claire of the moon, i hope nicole conn (director) isn't on this
list or anything, i know they ran out of money & time & did the best they
could, but when we saw it the whole theatre (mainly lesbian audience) was
alternately groaning or in hysterical fits of laughter. one friend
finally got bored & went out for a bathroom break & when she returned it
was over & she'd missed the best scene of the whole movie, that sex scene
at the end. oh well.

monet wrote:
>
> i have to agree with you on one thing, sister my sister is one of the
> most enthralling films i have ever seen.  the cinematography is
> absolutely mind blowing.  i felt like a majority of the scenes were like
> looking at actual artwork rather than a piece of moving film.
>
> the fact that the foundation of their relationship is incest, is another
> issue, and i'm sure will raise a few here to vote against it as a
> positive portrayal of lesbians.  but, the plot is fascinating, the acting
> is incredible, and the ending is....well, i don't want to give it away.
> you have to see this movie!
>
> oh, by the way, i'm new here. my name is lisa, i'm rather new to the
> indigo girls, having just been given swamp ophelia as a gift a month
> ago.  i absolutely love it, and am now completely voracious for more!
> i'm planning on getting another cd this weekend....any suggestions as to
> which i should get, if i can only get one?
>
> i'm usually a bit of a lurker, but i really enjoy reading all your
> posts, and who knows...you may see me throw in a word or two every now
> and then. :)
>
> lisa
>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, christine talbot wrote:
>
> > i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
> > true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
> > wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
> > complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
> > tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
> > have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
> > true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!
> >
> > yours,
> > chris ii
> >
> > on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:
> >
> > > >>best lesbian film of all time?
> > > >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> > > >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
> > > >>
> > > >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
> > > >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
> > > >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
> > >
> > > i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
> > > favorite lesbian movie.
> > >
> > > roxy
> > >
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amy j. putnam wrote:
>
> > "the national alliance of breast cancer organizations has teamed up with
> > mercury records to release 'women for women 2'.  the record is a follow
> > up to the first ever all-female album dedicated to increasing breast
> > health awareness.
> >
> > they didn't happen to mention when it would be released, but we can hope
> > soon...
> >
>
> this is out now.  saw it in a record store last week, but opted for
> "women live from mt stage" first.
>
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well..if you do decide to get it..buy it in a store..there was a big mail
order form in magazines to sell the first cd..so i sent in the
money..still waiting for it to show up,,i know shipping takes a
while,,but over a year???????

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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

on wed, 25 sep 1996, stacy friedman

> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> you suckers!

'scuze me?

did i miss the post where we claimed to be their number one fans?

oh, well, back to long hours of study away from the computer lab...

anna

"this is a banjo...and i'm gonna learn how to play it." -emily saliers

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subject:      speaking of movies (nigc)

        did anyone see the commercial for the new movie "bound" last night?  it
        was on right before ellen was on letterman (interesting marketing
        manuever as well...).  as ellen said, "i think its been proven that
        america likes lesbians."  (after dave said, "i like lesbians, and i
        think america likes lesbians.")  they were so silly!

        yvette

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subject:      nigc: howdy, & sit'n'spin (danielle howle)

while i'm on a roll here i'll introduce us since we've both been lurking
since bumbershoot.. i'm kathy, my girlfriend (10 year wife actually) is
sue, & we've been crazy about the indigo gals since 1991 bumbershoot.
had one cd before that, but didn't really get into them until the '91
show, after which we went immediately to the cd tent & bought everything
they had.

we were both at bumbershoot this year, about 5 rows back... didn't brave
the mosh pit or anything but did dive into the testosterone zone of
sweaty males vacating the presidents of the usa, to get to the front.  of
course unbeknownst to us, y'all list members had gotten there even
earlier & were probably the ones in front of us that we couldn't figure
out how you got there ahead of us! (i know that's bad grammar but oh
well).  so right after this year's bumbershoot we found the list & have
been lurking ever since, with the exception of a few tidbits one or the
other of us has contributed.

which brings us to: danielle howle at the sit & spin.  if you've gotten
this far & are planning to go to the sit & spin, let's talk.  tracy, i
have your description & as long as you're wearing the t-shirt could
probably pick you out of a crowd.  we don't have our shirts yet but are a
mid-30-ish typical granola-dyke couple.  maybe a little older than the
rest of the crowd but otherwise pretty generic, so we'll just look for
the list t-shirts.  unless we read of any meeting place before hand.
sit&spin is downtown, 2219 4th avenue, not exactly the gay ghetto & i
don't know of any particularly gay-friendly establishments in the
immediate area.  on capitol hill, there's the rosebud cafe, or the
bauhaus coffee house. or we just all get to the sit&spin early, that
sounds easier....  anyhow, we'll look for you, & feel free to email
beforehand.

kathy

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subject:      re: feminism: not for women only (nigc)

peter a. barta wrote:

>let me preface this by saying that i am a card carrying member of
>now and fully support women's right to both social and legal
>equality. however, statements like the one above make me bristle
>at being called a feminist.  equality means equality in all cases,
>not just in select ones.  susan supports "some women-only places >
>where women can feel totally comfortable" being with other women.
>does she support places where men can gather to the exclusion of
>women so that they can feel comfortable with each other? what if
>that place is a board room? a school? a rock concert?
>

peter, men are in positions of privilege already and are free to
speak their mind no matter where they are.  next time you are in a
room full of women and men, try and take note of who's doing most
of the talking and who's doing most of the listening.  also try
observing what is being discussed -- how much attention is being
paid to what women bring up and how often women initiate topics of
conversation -- it is a pattern for men to initiate topics and
typical for women to respond in supportive fashion to whomever it
is they are speaking.  it is also a pattern that when women raise
issues of concern with men, men feel the need to respond as
authorities, thus shifting the focus to their own expertise.

that men often dominate in communication is reason enough for women
to need a space of their own where they can voice issues and
concerns they have (e.g., about needing separate women's space)
without being silenced and/or having those desires trivialized.

deborah tannen wrote an easy-to-read book called, _you just don't
understand:  women and men in conversation" where she discusses the
ways in which communication is gendered.  she has done formal
research and she substantiates her points with several case studies
taken from everyday observations and interactions.  you might want
to browse it someday....

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subject:      re: feminism (for women only? nigc)
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in-reply-to:  <199609251812.oaa08396@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>; from "cecile
              cruz" at sep 25, 96 2:15 pm

cecile writes:

> yikes...did this make sense?!

actually it makes a lot of sense.

this all goes back to the "labels dilema" -- labels are terriblely
confining for they draw lines and hold standards which unfairly
generalize their constituents; yet, labels provide a point of
identification, pride, and self-realization for the folks that hold
them.

for example, i'd call myself a feminist.  "emily's list" (the
political action committee that gives money and support to candidates
which pledge to support women's rights -- not to be confused with the
beloved indigo girl) would laugh in my face.  why?  because i disagree
with one or two of their most basic policies which have become a
litmus test in american politics.

so i wonder am i a "feminist"?  under whose definition? emily's list?
gloria stienem? camille paglia? betty fridan?  bill clinton?  hillary
clinton? ariana huffington? my mother? does my own self-definition
even matter anymore with all of these benchmarks being tossed about?

this is why i really like cecile's formulation:

> in other words, i (and my very favorite roomie) believe that being
> non-feminist is more a function of being unaware of the ways in
> which gender inflects experience and operates as a system of
> privilege, and due less (in some cases) to believing men should be
> sole beneficiaries of social/political/economic goodies.
>
> after all, being feminist means occupying a political position.
> but more than just rhetoric, i think feminism is a way of life.
> it's a way of interacting with people, attending to what they say,
> attempting to understand others' experiences, providing support and
> encouragement, and standing behind what one believes in no matter
> how unpopular the position.

its a personal thing, but it goes beyond the good intentions.  being a
_____ is a way of life.  it helps describe who you are, yet it can not
decribe you, only your life itself can actually do that.  we have a
short hand for trying to decribe a life, our names.  its the ultimate,
most accurate label ever conceived.

and in the end, i hope my name will stand for lots of things.

                        -- chris

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chickensoprano wrote:
>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, stacy friedman
>
> > hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> > they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> > lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> > to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> > been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> > heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> > you suckers!
>
> 'scuze me?
>
> did i miss the post where we claimed to be their number one fans?
>
> oh, well, back to long hours of study away from the computer lab...
>
> anna
>
> "this is a banjo...and i'm gonna learn how to play it." -emily saliers
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and how plesant to be referred to as "suckers"..i'm sure emily would love
to know her new found "favorite number fans" referrs to the rest of us as
..suckers!!!!!
not!

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hello everyone,
        well, i think i have recovered enough from my extremely
devastating experience of trying to connect to the hte concert friday
night, only to find out that i couldn't.  i spent almost two
hours exasperating the faculties of my own self and the lab assistant's
and then realized it just wasn't meant to be.  i certainly couldn't listen
to any albums in place of the "real thing."  so i was miserable.  i
wouldn't even let myself hum or whistle whatever ig tune might wander into
my head.  i couldn't read my email for several days afterward. and then
when i did  -- oh the heart wrenching!
        nevertheless, i have survived. :)  the news of touring in the
spring was a little earlier than i expected, but a pleasant and
well-received surprise (is there an 'r' in there?).  and on saturday
morning i decided to call up 1-800-music-now while at work to hear some
snippits of ig songs.  after finding out that you have to have a credit
card to get an account, and an account to listen, i typed in i-n-d-i-g
(well, actually whatever the telephone # equivalent would be) and voila,
instant entertainment!
        and i'm not talkin' just from hearing the girls (that certainly
goes w/o saying. :)  first of all the announcer guy says "featuring the
hits" after the album title, and before listing a few titles of the
"hits."  then about 10 seconds of the song plays.  (just enough that
you hear the title)  not that i think it's funny that ig don't have any
"hits."  but the fact that the announcer is so "enthusiastic" about it.
it's hilarious.  listen for yourself and see what you think?  (if you
have a credit card of course.  what a rip-off, you used to just be able to
listen regardless --but i digress, excuse me...)
        and if you don't think that's funny, i was completely rotfl
when for so i heard "featuring the hits... touch me...(amy sings "touch
me, i'm so beautiful")...  i totally did not expect that!  i listened to
all the other albums and the only other mistake they make is call pot (hey
maybe the girls do smoke... *just kidding*!!!) "power of love"... (then em
sings "multiply life by the power of twooooo") duh!
        happy listening!  sorry if this seems lame, but it served as some
consolation for my deprived soul, which is all better now (b/c my gf
promised we'd seem them at least twice when they tour.  yea!)  yikes!
sorry this is so long!

                        peace, love, and happiness, -melissa

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subject:      re: feminism: not for women only (nigc)
x-to:         "peter a. barta" <bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu>
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susan, let me try this one :)

> susan supports "some women-only places where women can feel totally
> comfortable" being with other women. does she support places where men
> can gather to the exclusion of women so that they can feel comfortable
> with each other? what if that place is a board room? a school? a rock
> concert?

in an "ideal" world, i'd say hell yeah men can have their spaces too.
but, in *our* world, those closed boardrooms, schools etc have been
used to oppress women.  to determine lower than realistic wages, to
perhaps consciously or unconsciously (is this possible) impose a
differente set of standards for women than for men, usually much
tougher, definitely  unequal standards.  places fo rmen to laugh
about women, further objectify and de-humanize them etc.  while
many "tradiiotnally" men only places have been opeened up, there
are stil lplenty of places and ways for men to get together amongst
only themsevles.  it's not like a woman only space *deprives* men of
the right to congregate on their own, or usually denies them access
to a place they have much invested in being in.  how many men can sit in
a group of women and actually *know* what it means to be a woman in
our society?  yeah it is one thing to empathize.  it's anotehr thing
altogether to  live it and ned a place away from men to deal wiht it
and strategize for change.  men who are feminist are valuable contri-
butors to changes in our socety, unquestionably, but feminst men are
still a minorty and there is still great gender disparity out there.

> just why is legitimate for a rock concert to exclude men? why do
> "feminists" laud the integration of the citadel (which i support) without
> questioning the legitimacy of all-women's schools like smith and barnard
> (although these are private schools, they recieve federal funding and
> therefore fall under the purview of the 14th amendment)?

while you did mention federal fudning here, it is important to distingiush
private and receiving some federal funds to public and totally publically
supported.  i should mention i ama womens college alum (wellesley).
it was no convent.  there were men in the classrooms and, with the
12 college exchange, even some who lived on campus.  ther is a cross
registration program with mit ther.  smith has the 5 college consortium
with umass/amherst, hampshire, mt holyoke, and amherst.  barnard is part
of the columbia system (i think?).  it's not like those gates are
closed and locked to men as ciompletey as the citadel's or vmi's
were to women.

>
> something is sexist if it discriminates against one gender. which gender
> is being harmed should not matter.

ah but it does as long as one gender, in this case men, has power
where women do not.  as long as there is one gender in power, it most
absolutely matters which one it is so one can udnerstand, or at
least try to, how and why that [power structure endures and at what
price to the oppressed.  the unshakable truth is that we live in
a patriarchal society which clearly favors men over women in many many
ways.  women only places are ways to have a room away from all that for
a little while, and i see no harm in it.  i do not believe ther should
ne no men only places (what do you call a locker room eh?)  but i
do wholeheartedly enjoy and look forward to time in women only environments.

sorry this got long...

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i've certainly never been one to avoid an
intelligent debate.

cecile eloquently states:
> peter, men are in positions of privilege already and are free to
> speak their mind no matter where they are.

except for, of course, the places we're talking about where men are
simply not welcome. i've honestly never felt privileged because i'm male.
maybe i'm coming from a liberal upbringing, maybe i just know a lot of
smart, strong women. the myriad gender stereotypes cecile and the
authorities she cites are simply not indicative of my experience. i know
women who dominate conversations with knowledge and wit and i know men who
cower in the corner out of shyness. in terms of relationships, i've
laways prefered women who were not afraid to speak their own minds.
  i'm not arguing that there is never a need for women to talk to each
other on their own terms. what i question is the exclusion of other
people from the arena where the conversation is to take place. how is a
rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
view of women behind us?
  if certain men don't respect the topics that women find important,
that's their problem. i never try to have a conversation about something
i find important if the people i'm speaking to couldn't care less. what
does this have to do with gender? why do my views and what i choose to
foucus my attention on have to be defined by my sex? i enjoy talking
about relationships and i don't like football. does this make me less male?
  we live in an integrated world. we are male. we are female. for better
or worse, we are stuck with each other. the way to get past our
differences is not to entrench them with legislation and segregation. the
way to harmony is, and always has been, cooperation and compromise.
instead of declaring certain mannerisms or topics of discussion to be the
exclusive domain of one sex or another, let's reach out to each other and
work to understand each other's needs and interests.
  i refuse to be classified or excluded because i am male. i resist
anything which segregates society according to sex, race, orientation or
any other arbitrary characteristic. of course we are different - the
strength of our society lies in our diversity. only by making use of this
diversity, i.e. embracing those who are different from us, can we defeat
the forces of ignorance and hatred which plague our world. feminism is a
celebration of equality, not an attempt to entrench our differences.

peter a. barta
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"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
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                                                - suzanne vega

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on wed, 25 sep 1996, peter a. barta wrote:

how is a
> rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> view of women behind us?

if you want to know why this is, check out an article by amy raphael in the
guardian a couple of years back (if you can get hold of it in the states;  i
can find it on the cd rom if you can't).   the women-only gigs were brought
in to stop women being molested by men in the "mosh pits" at certain heavy
rock gigs, particularly in seattle.   a lot of the early riot-grrrl gigs were
for women only, specifically to avoid this.   (incidentally, ig were
criticised in some quarters towards the beginning of their career for
refusing to play to all-female audiences.)

mat

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if anyone has a bone to pick with my views, please email me personally. the
last thing i ever meant to do was start a silly flame war on this last. let's
get back to the girls, can we?

thanks-
power to the sisters (and the cool brothers on this list)

susan

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peter a. barta wrote:
>(......deleted.....)
> how is a rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> view of women behind us?

addressing only this part of your response, & assuming you're refering to such things as
michigan womyns music festival (mwmf):  just so you know, mwmf really has nothing to do
with being a rock concert.  what it is, is a week-long cultural experience/experiment,
kinda like a rainbow gathering, if you're familiar w/that, only put on by & for women.
although 'music festival' is part of its title, there is much much more.  yes there is
music, but the main thing is being immersed in this environment created & maintained
entirely by women.  it blew my mind at one point to realize that even the huge stages
and sound systems, something we normally leave to the 'guys' to build, were built all by
women.  during the festival, the 600 acres or so become a city of women, living in tents
& rv's; there are even named 'neighbourhoods', like crone corner, amazon something (i
forget), bread & roses, etc etc.

i spent only a few hours of the entire week at concerts; the rest of the time was at
workshops, helping out w/ chores (funner than it sounds), walking around or riding
around on tractor-pulled shuttles, shopping at craft booths, getting books signed by
celebrity authors, etc, & just hanging out in general.

anyway, my two points are:
#1. if you're a woman, go to mwmf at least once, especially if you live in the midwest
(we drove 2000 miles from seattle last year).

and #2.  if you're a guy, don't be threatened, we (most of us) don't want to erase men
from the face of the earth, we just need some time away, to ourselves.  i didn't hear
anyone at michigan talking about overthrowing men (the patriarchy, maybe, but not men as
individuals).  michigan & other womyn-only spaces make for a refreshing vacation where
we can be ourselves, etc etc.  and besides, it's on private land owned by women, so the
public-space argument is a moot point.  and as far as i'm concerned men can have their
men-only (privately-owned) spaces as well; the last thing i'd want to do is crash a
group of guys talking about guy-stuff (even if it's not football!).

cheers!

kathy

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yeah...uh, what the hell was this, anyway?  spam or what?
> >
> > on wed, 25 sep 1996, stacy friedman
> >
> > > hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> > > they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> > > lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> > > to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> > > been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> > > heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> > > you suckers!
> >
> > 'scuze me?
> >
> > did i miss the post where we claimed to be their number one fans?
> >
> > oh, well, back to long hours of study away from the computer lab...
> >
> > anna
> >
> > "this is a banjo...and i'm gonna learn how to play it." -emily saliers
> >
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>
> and how plesant to be referred to as "suckers"..i'm sure emily would love
> to know her new found "favorite number fans" referrs to the rest of us as
> ..suckers!!!!!
> not!
>
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>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, stacy friedman wrote:
>
> > hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> > they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> > lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> > to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> > been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> > heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> > you suckers!
>
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as my favorite line in heathers goes,
"what is your damage, stacy?"

susan

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>just why is legitimate for a rock concert to exclude men? why do
>"feminists" laud the integration of the citadel (which i support) without
>questioning the legitimacy of all-women's schools like smith and barnard
>(although these are private schools, they recieve federal funding and
>therefore fall under the purview of the 14th amendment)?
>
>something is sexist if it discriminates against one gender. which gender
>is being harmed should not matter.

women's colleges provide a significant means of subverting the main
cultural paradigm of male dominance...at least, for those of us who
were lucky enough to attend one and those others who have been influenced
and educated by women who have attended places like bryn mawr and smith
and wellesley and mt holyoke.

women and minorities have historically been and to this day are brought up
in a dominant culture in which they are considered and treated as second
class citizens, as "other".  their needs are considered secondary, and
their abilities are considered inferior.  the dominant culture attempts
to equip them with tools (such as low expectations and low self-esteem)
which make it easy for them to adapt to their secondary role in society.
being thus situated, minorities and women as classes of people are set
up for failure in a way that men are never in a position to experience.

institutions like women's colleges are important because they provide a
place where women have the opportunity to re-train themselves away from
the dominant paradigm of male dominance and male superiority.  it provides
a place where they have the opportunity to develop leadership skills,
where their needs cannot be ignored, and where they can develop a
sense of entitlement that men develop naturally by virtue of being part
of the dominant class.  after this type of experience, many women are
better equipped to move out into a culture which is basically hostile
to well-educated, ambitious, aggressive women (like hillary clinton) and
achieve in a system set up to make them fail.

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> cecile eloquently states:
> > peter, men are in positions of privilege already and are free to
> > speak their mind no matter where they are.
>
> except for, of course, the places we're talking about where men are
> simply not welcome.

shoe's on the other foot...thre are pleny of places where women
are not/have not been welcomne.  to use your own examples, these places
include the citadel and boardrooms.

i've honestly never felt privileged because i'm male.
> maybe i'm coming from a liberal upbringing, maybe i just know a lot of
> smart, strong women. the myriad gender stereotypes cecile and the
> authorities she cites are simply not indicative of my experience. i know
> women who dominate conversations with knowledge and wit and i know men who
> cower in the corner out of shyness. in terms of relationships, i've
> laways prefered women who were not afraid to speak their own minds.

well, this is great.  but, again, use cecili'a well stated advice to
more closely watch interactions in mixed spaces.  depsite your own
experience, it would be hard not to notice disparity.  there was a study
done of classroomss...mixed gender and all women. the sutdy found (i
think it was done at mit) that in mixed classes, women were less likely
to raise their hands, and less likely to be called upon when their
hand were raised.  from the very earliest in schools, boys and girls
are socialized and treated differently.  otehr studies have shown
girls tyo have been discouraged from science and math by about
the jr. high level.  i was lucky too..i was never told i couldnt or
shouldnt study certain things (except for my dad's protestations to my
womens studies major :)  )  but i also know that as strong as i am,
there are occcassions where men may be present where i dont speak up.
partyl (and this is in the comapny where i work now) becuase i know
i wont be taken seriously.  i used to work in a group which was a
boys club.  now i work for a woman in a mixed group.  it is a huge
difference.  and we are talking people in their 20's mostly.

>   i'm not arguing that there is never a need for women to talk to each
> other on their own terms. what i question is the exclusion of other
> people from the arena where the conversation is to take place. how is a
> rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> view of women behind us?

mat posted one reason for closed rock concerts.  personally, i have
never been to a closed concert.  i've been to womens music concerts
which were 98.99% women.  i have alternately respected men who could
deal with being in that space, and loathed them for "invading".  why
is it that men feel thye have to be included *everywhre*?

>   if certain men don't respect the topics that women find important,
> that's their problem. i never try to have a conversation about something
> i find important if the people i'm speaking to couldn't care less. what
> does this have to do with gender? why do my views and what i choose to
> foucus my attention on have to be defined by my sex? i enjoy talking
> about relationships and i don't like football. does this make me less male?

nope, but in a space where women are talking about concerns particular to
women, for example, and men present dont respect that, why shoudl the
women put up with that?  why should the women have to endure the
disrespect?  they shouldnt, expecially if the topic involves some
aspect of womens experience which is not shared by men.

>   we live in an integrated world. we are male. we are female. for better
> or worse, we are stuck with each other. the way to get past our
> differences is not to entrench them with legislation and segregation. the
> way to harmony is, and always has been, cooperation and compromise.
> instead of declaring certain mannerisms or topics of discussion to be the
> exclusive domain of one sex or another, let's reach out to each other and
> work to understand each other's needs and interests.

thre is a place for comrpomise.  and there is a case for being able
to "regroup" in our own camp.  again, it strieks me, with all due
respect to you, that you just cannot stand being excluded.  maybe
you are a feminist male.  if you really are, you would respect and
accept that you do not need to be allowed into *every* space where
women congregate.  men have fought for the right to be able to go
into boardrooms as equals (where this still does not happen much)
but i surmise that there are plenty of other domains, like the
locker room again, where women wouldnt have any interest in being
present.

>   i refuse to be classified or excluded because i am male. i resist
> anything which segregates society according to sex, race, orientation or
> any other arbitrary characteristic. of course we are different - the
> strength of our society lies in our diversity. only by making use of this
> diversity, i.e. embracing those who are different from us, can we defeat
> the forces of ignorance and hatred which plague our world. feminism is a
> celebration of equality, not an attempt to entrench our differences.

well, i'm sorry oyou feel this way.  i am not seeing a lot of
sympathy for the oppression of women over time.  feminism is
a celebration of equality when all sides are on equal footing.  we
are not.  and personally, i believe ther are more than two genders
anyway, but that's anotehr whol ball of wax i wont get into here.
feminism is not about entrenching differences.  exclusion is not
always about entrenching differences.  yes tehre are radical separatists
out there who refuse to have anythign to do with men.  thre are the
same sorts among men, in the gay male community for example.  tehy are
fractions of the population. while feminist men, as i said, are invaluable
to the movement in many ways, there are just some things that men cannot
understand, and to that end, women need to be able to gatehr strangth
among each other, away from men.

dsorry again, for a long post.

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you know i didnt think this would go where it has first off please quit
bashing all the male society not all males gather to keep woman down so
scratch that and use phrases liek alot or most or some not in the context
as all now then as for this locker room stuff for every place u name like
a locker room or a frat the same can be said of woman so its not helping
your claim there is a female locker room to there are sorieties there are
ladies auxileries  as for this being a male run society while that maybe
true to a point there are woman in power and let me ask u this is it a
patriarcle because we have a man president what happens when a woman
finally hits office???


on wed, 25 sep 1996, amy j. putnam wrote:

> susan, let me try this one :)
>
> > susan supports "some women-only places where women can feel totally
> > comfortable" being with other women. does she support places where men
> > can gather to the exclusion of women so that they can feel comfortable
> > with each other? what if that place is a board room? a school? a rock
> > concert?
>
> in an "ideal" world, i'd say hell yeah men can have their spaces too.
> but, in *our* world, those closed boardrooms, schools etc have been
> used to oppress women.  to determine lower than realistic wages, to
> perhaps consciously or unconsciously (is this possible) impose a
> differente set of standards for women than for men, usually much
> tougher, definitely  unequal standards.  places fo rmen to laugh
> about women, further objectify and de-humanize them etc.  while
> many "tradiiotnally" men only places have been opeened up, there
> are stil lplenty of places and ways for men to get together amongst
> only themsevles.  it's not like a woman only space *deprives* men of
> the right to congregate on their own, or usually denies them access
> to a place they have much invested in being in.  how many men can sit in
> a group of women and actually *know* what it means to be a woman in
> our society?  yeah it is one thing to empathize.  it's anotehr thing
> altogether to  live it and ned a place away from men to deal wiht it
> and strategize for change.  men who are feminist are valuable contri-
> butors to changes in our socety, unquestionably, but feminst men are
> still a minorty and there is still great gender disparity out there.
>
> > just why is legitimate for a rock concert to exclude men? why do
> > "feminists" laud the integration of the citadel (which i support) without
> > questioning the legitimacy of all-women's schools like smith and barnard
> > (although these are private schools, they recieve federal funding and
> > therefore fall under the purview of the 14th amendment)?
>
> while you did mention federal fudning here, it is important to distingiush
> private and receiving some federal funds to public and totally publically
> supported.  i should mention i ama womens college alum (wellesley).
> it was no convent.  there were men in the classrooms and, with the
> 12 college exchange, even some who lived on campus.  ther is a cross
> registration program with mit ther.  smith has the 5 college consortium
> with umass/amherst, hampshire, mt holyoke, and amherst.  barnard is part
> of the columbia system (i think?).  it's not like those gates are
> closed and locked to men as ciompletey as the citadel's or vmi's
> were to women.
>
> >
> > something is sexist if it discriminates against one gender. which gender
> > is being harmed should not matter.
>
> ah but it does as long as one gender, in this case men, has power
> where women do not.  as long as there is one gender in power, it most
> absolutely matters which one it is so one can udnerstand, or at
> least try to, how and why that [power structure endures and at what
> price to the oppressed.  the unshakable truth is that we live in
> a patriarchal society which clearly favors men over women in many many
> ways.  women only places are ways to have a room away from all that for
> a little while, and i see no harm in it.  i do not believe ther should
> ne no men only places (what do you call a locker room eh?)  but i
> do wholeheartedly enjoy and look forward to time in women only environments.
>
> sorry this got long...
>
>
>
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amen peterm<g> also on the note of men can say what they want since when??
how abotu a man crying remember that wasnt allowed not to long ago it was
a sign of weakness remember that???


on wed, 25 sep 1996, peter a. barta wrote:

> i've certainly never been one to avoid an
> intelligent debate.
>
> cecile eloquently states:
> > peter, men are in positions of privilege already and are free to
> > speak their mind no matter where they are.
>
> except for, of course, the places we're talking about where men are
> simply not welcome. i've honestly never felt privileged because i'm male.
> maybe i'm coming from a liberal upbringing, maybe i just know a lot of
> smart, strong women. the myriad gender stereotypes cecile and the
> authorities she cites are simply not indicative of my experience. i know
> women who dominate conversations with knowledge and wit and i know men who
> cower in the corner out of shyness. in terms of relationships, i've
> laways prefered women who were not afraid to speak their own minds.
>   i'm not arguing that there is never a need for women to talk to each
> other on their own terms. what i question is the exclusion of other
> people from the arena where the conversation is to take place. how is a
> rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> view of women behind us?
>   if certain men don't respect the topics that women find important,
> that's their problem. i never try to have a conversation about something
> i find important if the people i'm speaking to couldn't care less. what
> does this have to do with gender? why do my views and what i choose to
> foucus my attention on have to be defined by my sex? i enjoy talking
> about relationships and i don't like football. does this make me less male?
>   we live in an integrated world. we are male. we are female. for better
> or worse, we are stuck with each other. the way to get past our
> differences is not to entrench them with legislation and segregation. the
> way to harmony is, and always has been, cooperation and compromise.
> instead of declaring certain mannerisms or topics of discussion to be the
> exclusive domain of one sex or another, let's reach out to each other and
> work to understand each other's needs and interests.
>   i refuse to be classified or excluded because i am male. i resist
> anything which segregates society according to sex, race, orientation or
> any other arbitrary characteristic. of course we are different - the
> strength of our society lies in our diversity. only by making use of this
> diversity, i.e. embracing those who are different from us, can we defeat
> the forces of ignorance and hatred which plague our world. feminism is a
> celebration of equality, not an attempt to entrench our differences.
>
>
>
> peter a. barta
> bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu
>
>
> "everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
> crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
> everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
> comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
>                                          that i don't understand."
>                         - amy ray
>                                                 - suzanne vega
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while this may be true of men woman do it also maybe not as often but they
do do it i know ive been there


on wed, 25 sep 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> on wed, 25 sep 1996, peter a. barta wrote:
>
> how is a
> > rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> > males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> > view of women behind us?
>
> if you want to know why this is, check out an article by amy raphael in the
> guardian a couple of years back (if you can get hold of it in the states;  i
> can find it on the cd rom if you can't).   the women-only gigs were brought
> in to stop women being molested by men in the "mosh pits" at certain heavy
> rock gigs, particularly in seattle.   a lot of the early riot-grrrl gigs were
> for women only, specifically to avoid this.   (incidentally, ig were
> criticised in some quarters towards the beginning of their career for
> refusing to play to all-female audiences.)
>
> mat
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on wed, 25 sep 1996, amy j. putnam wrote:

> > cecile eloquently states:
> > > peter, men are in positions of privilege already and are free to
> > > speak their mind no matter where they are.
> >
> > except for, of course, the places we're talking about where men are
> > simply not welcome.
>
> shoe's on the other foot...thre are pleny of places where women
> are not/have not been welcomne.  to use your own examples, these places
> include the citadel and boardrooms.
>
> i've honestly never felt privileged because i'm male.
> > maybe i'm coming from a liberal upbringing, maybe i just know a lot of
> > smart, strong women. the myriad gender stereotypes cecile and the
> > authorities she cites are simply not indicative of my experience. i know
> > women who dominate conversations with knowledge and wit and i know men who
> > cower in the corner out of shyness. in terms of relationships, i've
> > laways prefered women who were not afraid to speak their own minds.
>
> well, this is great.  but, again, use cecili'a well stated advice to
> more closely watch interactions in mixed spaces.  depsite your own
> experience, it would be hard not to notice disparity.  there was a study
> done of classroomss...mixed gender and all women. the sutdy found (i
> think it was done at mit) that in mixed classes, women were less likely
> to raise their hands, and less likely to be called upon when their
> hand were raised.  from the very earliest in schools, boys and girls
> are socialized and treated differently.  otehr studies have shown
> girls tyo have been discouraged from science and math by about
> the jr. high level.  i was lucky too..i was never told i couldnt or
> shouldnt study certain things (except for my dad's protestations to my
> womens studies major :)  )  but i also know that as strong as i am,
> there are occcassions where men may be present where i dont speak up.
> partyl (and this is in the comapny where i work now) becuase i know
> i wont be taken seriously.  i used to work in a group which was a
> boys club.  now i work for a woman in a mixed group.  it is a huge
> difference.  and we are talking people in their 20's mostly.
>
> >   i'm not arguing that there is never a need for women to talk to each
> > other on their own terms. what i question is the exclusion of other
> > people from the arena where the conversation is to take place. how is a
> > rock concert a good place for women to avoid being dominated by men? do
> > males applaud louder than women? are we taller and therefore block the
> > view of women behind us?
>
> mat posted one reason for closed rock concerts.  personally, i have
> never been to a closed concert.  i've been to womens music concerts
> which were 98.99% women.  i have alternately respected men who could
> deal with being in that space, and loathed them for "invading".  why
> is it that men feel thye have to be included *everywhre*?

you know the same arguement could be used abotu woman  and as for invading
music is universal its for everyone


>
> >   if certain men don't respect the topics that women find important,
> > that's their problem. i never try to have a conversation about something
> > i find important if the people i'm speaking to couldn't care less. what
> > does this have to do with gender? why do my views and what i choose to
> > foucus my attention on have to be defined by my sex? i enjoy talking
> > about relationships and i don't like football. does this make me less male?
>
> nope, but in a space where women are talking about concerns particular to
> women, for example, and men present dont respect that, why shoudl the
> women put up with that?  why should the women have to endure the
> disrespect?  they shouldnt, expecially if the topic involves some
> aspect of womens experience which is not shared by men.
>
> >   we live in an integrated world. we are male. we are female. for better
> > or worse, we are stuck with each other. the way to get past our
> > differences is not to entrench them with legislation and segregation. the
> > way to harmony is, and always has been, cooperation and compromise.
> > instead of declaring certain mannerisms or topics of discussion to be the
> > exclusive domain of one sex or another, let's reach out to each other and
> > work to understand each other's needs and interests.
>
> thre is a place for comrpomise.  and there is a case for being able
> to "regroup" in our own camp.  again, it strieks me, with all due
> respect to you, that you just cannot stand being excluded.  maybe
> you are a feminist male.  if you really are, you would respect and
> accept that you do not need to be allowed into *every* space where
> women congregate.  men have fought for the right to be able to go
> into boardrooms as equals (where this still does not happen much)
> but i surmise that there are plenty of other domains, like the
> locker room again, where women wouldnt have any interest in being
> present.
>
> >   i refuse to be classified or excluded because i am male. i resist
> > anything which segregates society according to sex, race, orientation or
> > any other arbitrary characteristic. of course we are different - the
> > strength of our society lies in our diversity. only by making use of this
> > diversity, i.e. embracing those who are different from us, can we defeat
> > the forces of ignorance and hatred which plague our world. feminism is a
> > celebration of equality, not an attempt to entrench our differences.
>
> well, i'm sorry oyou feel this way.  i am not seeing a lot of
> sympathy for the oppression of women over time.  feminism is
> a celebration of equality when all sides are on equal footing.  we
> are not.  and personally, i believe ther are more than two genders
> anyway, but that's anotehr whol ball of wax i wont get into here.
> feminism is not about entrenching differences.  exclusion is not
> always about entrenching differences.  yes tehre are radical separatists
> out there who refuse to have anythign to do with men.  thre are the
> same sorts among men, in the gay male community for example.  tehy are
> fractions of the population. while feminist men, as i said, are invaluable
> to the movement in many ways, there are just some things that men cannot
> understand, and to that end, women need to be able to gatehr strangth
> among each other, away from men.
>
> dsorry again, for a long post.
>
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on wed, 25 sep 1996, stacy friedman wrote:

> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> you suckers!
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now, i must say that really, i at first envied stacy for a while, thinking
that she's so lucky to be able talk to emily person-to-person situation.
but, really, for someone to just title herself the number one fan,
especially when she's writing to a whole slew of people who would also
consider themselves to be maybe not the number one fans, but pretty big
fans nonetheless, is just plain arrogant.  i mean, really, was that
necessary?  just because most of us don't happen to live in the atlanta
area doesn't make us any less of a fan... i think that all ig fans are
cool and the best, even if they don't know how to play the guitar, sing,
or even tie their shoelaces.  they know what good music is, and goddamnit,
that's what matters here, right?
but, maybe i'm just going a little overboard here.  it's been a
rought day.  and maybe we were a little harsh.  perhaps stacy meant all
of us, as in a group?  i certainly hope so...

veronica

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on wed, 25 sep 1996, denise eng wrote:

ellen's character may be "coming out" in the show,is the actress herself a
lesbian?> > denise e.

according to "curve" magazine (formerly known as denueve until catherine
sued them!) yes, there is ample proof that she is a sister. i went to see
her in vancouver a couple of years ago and k.d. lang was in the audience,
and apparently they "took off" together after the show much to the
chagrin of many autograph hungry fans waiting at the back door. it was a
much publicised "insensitive oversight". oh, i'm not saying she is cos
she spends time with k.d. lang, i read somewhere else that she was hot
and heavy with some gorgeous girl in a bar in new york. who knows really,
but my spider senses tell me yes! i like to think she is, anyway!!! k (n.v.)

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subject:      chickenman on 1200

hi all,

i'm a little behind on my email, and i haven't read all of this thread
yet, but... i kinda figured that the girls chose to *not* choose a version
of "chickenman" with a soc in it b/c they didn't want one soc becoming
*the* soc.  i think that's the whole point.  the soc's contain mostly the
same info., but each is unique.  and us go-heads would memorize it and be
impartial to other soc's, maybe.  just a thought.

by the way, this was my first ig concert so i find it really cool that
a song from it made it to an album.  i sometimes imagine that *i'm*
one of the fans you can hear hollering at the beginning of the song.
(lame) but i know i didn't yell, b/c i was still a little shy then.  (not
like i had any clue at the time what could or would become of the show) i
remember thinking halfway through the song that night "why would they play
this dumb song about a chickenman?  wow, they must really like it."  not
that i disliked it before i heard it live, i just hadn't thought much
about it before.  i was hoping to hear r&j.  i was an amy person then, and
i didn't know it yet...      sorry for another long post!

        peace, love, and happiness, -melissa

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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      re: unplug america date?
x-to:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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dear deb and all in indigo land,

unplug america date is october 13th, i feel left out, can i unplug canada
too? i mean, why do the ig have to be american. it isn't fair.

kim (north van)

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subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
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hey chris, i just checked my trusty videomatica guide, i hadn't heard of
"sister my sister", thanks for pointing it out, i will march out right
now and rent it!! (still much liking desert hearts though!)

peace, kim (north van)

on wed, 25 sep 1996, christine talbot wrote:

> i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
> true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
> wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
> complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
> tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
> have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up o
> yours,
> chris ii

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subject:      re: yawning or smoking?/smoking rumors, rolling chickens
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hi naz
kim from north van here, just to let you know, there isn't a conspiracy,
we all love a+e, if you have the 12:00 curfews cd, pull out the book and
turn to the pictures in the middle. the right page, top right-hand
corner, now... is amy yawning or smoking, we only want to know the
truth!!! loving to stir things up, can't imagine kissing amy anymore,
quit for your voice amy before it's too late, sincerely, kim (n.v.)
(ahem, perhaps we should lighten up, hey?)

on wed, 25 sep 1996, naz wrote:

> hi all,
>
> recently there have been some posts about whether amy & emily smoke,
> what they might smoke, etc., and i'd just like to remind folks that the
> information that reaches this list is really really hard to
> verify... not to impune (sp) the reputations of anyone on the list, but
> i think it's important to remember that *anyone* can say *anything* in
> this medium, and it takes on an aura of truth.  it wouldn't be hard for
> someone with an anti-ig agenda (for whatever reason) to damage their
> reputations.
>
> rumors can get out of control so easily... someone says they saw a&e
> toking on a number and suddenly we're talking about whether or not they
> should, how disappointed we may or may not be, etc.  nevermind the fact
> that it might not have been as it appeared to the observer (coulda been
> a hand-rolled cig that they were joking with, who knows), or that we're
> taking the word of someone most of us only know through the list
> (again-- i have no reason to not believe the poster, i can't even
> remember who it was, but i am not saying they're bad or anything), or
> that it's plenty easy to have an account pirated, and we know there are
> some mean-spirited folks out there who enjoy causing trouble.  we need
> to take most of what we hear here with lots and lots of very large
> grains of salt.  (again, apologies to the original poster!)
>
> oh, before i go... i heard that amy likes to roll her own chickens...
>
> take care all,
> naz
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

>> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
>> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
>> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
>> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
>> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
>> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
>> you suckers!
no... nu uh...
the ig's number one fan would not seek to alienate all the others on this
list who love the girls + their music. their #1 fan would promote them +
show respect for others who enjoy their stuff.
#1 fan...??? i don't think so:-)
this post reads/smells like a hoax:-)
peace all... kim ( the sometimes-goddess ):-)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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     how much have you grown?"
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well, i'm certainly not taking the popular view on this list. that's ok.
i just want to make a few points.

1) i do feel sympathy for women who face oppression in society. i am a
member of now. since coming to law school, i have been active in the
women's legal alliance. that group holds weekly lunches where speakers
come to discuss issues important to women and contemporary feminism. the
attitude toward my presence there is quite different than what i'm
hearing on this list. i'm not told that i dominate the conversation (i
certainly don't - i'm usually the only male in a room of 20-30 women, all
of whom are articulate, well-spoken, intelligent and knowledgeable); i'm
not told that my presence intimidates others, i'm not told that i'm going
just because the thought of being excluded threatens me. the group is
glad that there are men progressive enough to attend and contribute. the
enemy is men who seek to oppress women, not all men. until this
distinction is made, integration will be virtually impossible.

2) several posts asked why i was so threatened at being excluded. i share
the same political views as most feminists (mckinnonites aside). i will
devote my life to a public service career. nearly all of my close friends
are women. and yet, i'm not judged on my views, my outlook, my attitudes.
because i'm male, i'm set aside into a category of people "who can't
pssobly understand." generalizations like that are really dangerous.
  why do i feel threatened by exclusion? it's the same reason that women
and minorities resist their exclusion from certain jobs, schools etc. i
want to be judged on my own merits, not on my anatomy. if there are
problems with edcation, let's address them. train teachers to recognize
the special neds of some students. if the glass ceiling threatens to hold
certain groups of people, let's shatter it with tolerance and activism.
the more we divide ourselves across gender lines, the less unity we have
in confronting the things we want to change.
3) the question of power is an interesting one. lewis farrakhan argues
that he is not racist when he refers to whites as devils since whites
have all the power. exclusion of men is not sexist because men have
power. think about it though. who has the power in the relationship
between myself and the organization who shuts me out because of my
gender? how much more would you respect my views on this topic if i was
female? on this topic and on this list, i start at a disadvantage simply
because i'm a man.
oppression and discrimination suck. period. when you qualify that with
exceptions, you cheapen the equality you claim to uphold.
4) despite predictions, i am not trivializing the objections to my first
statement. i am not dominating the conversation by posting 10 articles to
every response. i am not exercising my power as a male to intimidate or
harass the women i am discussing this with. to all those who feel i have
mischaracterized their views, i apologize. it was not my intention.
however, i think it interesting that many of you begin with assumptions
about my views based exclusively on my gender.
5) there is still a lot of patriarchy in our society. women have to
tackle barriers that i will never face. the movement has come a long way
in a short time but there is still a lot of fight left. if we correctly
identify the enemy, we can win the war for equality. if we instead
entrench differences and divisions between ourselves, we can never
succeed. i am a man but i am also a feminist. that's not as much of a
strectch as many of you seem to think.

peter a. barta
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"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      re: fav movie (nigc)
x-to:         betsy bertiaux <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>
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just so you all know, this is my *virgin* participation in a nigc thread
in 13 months of listdom, i feel entitled to post my little heart out!
heavenly creatures was equally fascinating in terms of plot and character
development, but i still maintain that sms had better cinematography.  go
fish, in fact, was pretty much rejected by the "artsy-fartsy" community,
only to be embraced by the lesbian/gay community.  (i guess we can see who
has the better taste--kidding!)  it was criticized for poor acting, lack
of plot, flimsy character development, in fact its single redeeming
feature seemed to be that it was a "gay film," whatever that means.
however, the above said not having seen the movie because of said revews!

adventure was a damn good show, haven't seen desert hearts so i wont'
comment.  but hey, it's two for one night at the video store!  maybe i'll
forgo 340 pages of readings on the holocaust in the interest of lesbian
cinema!

yours,
chris

on wed, 25 sep 1996, betsy bertiaux wrote:

> i totally have to second this.  this movie was fascinating as was "heavenly
> creatures" (both based on true stories).  i like both of these over claire
> of the moon, bar girls, and especially, go fish (yuk - guess i'm not
> artsy-fartsy enough to appreciate it)!!!  i still root for dessert hearts
> and  the incredible true story.... as worthy flicks.
>
> betsy
>
>
>
> >i know i'm gonna get in trouble, here, but what about sister my sister?
> >true, it doesn't portray lesbians in a sort of glorifying pc aren't we
> >wonderful, healthy, intelligent human beings way, but as far as
> >complexity, cinematography, fascinating characters and negotiating the
> >tricky and dangerous relationships of kinship, friendship and sexuality, i
> >have to give it two enthusiastic thumbs up over desert hearts, bar girls,
> >true adventures and everything else.  it's a good one!
> >
> >yours,
> >chris ii
> >
> >on wed, 25 sep 1996, patty konopka wrote:
> >
> >> >>best lesbian film of all time?
> >> >>don't think so. try "desert hearts". sorry.. very strong feelings about
> >> >>this! really? no, never would have noticed. peace  --- kim (north van)
> >> >>
> >> >i absolutely have to agree with this. desert hearts is one of the best i've
> >> >seen... even though it was not as true to the jane rule book it was based
> >> >on. i preferred the movie to the book:) very positive + well done...
> >>
> >> i too fully agree with this one.  "desert hearts" is definitely my all time
> >> favorite lesbian movie.
> >>
> >> roxy
> >>
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>       when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
>                        all for one and one for all
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from:         stacy <socwat@wvin.com>
subject:      nigc--rolling...??

are you sure they were rolling chickens???  or was it flying fish...!!
                          ha!
stacy.
>
>date:    tue, 24 sep 1996 18:39:16 -0700
>from:    jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>
>subject: re: mr. limes, or not?
>
>ok, it has to be lets go roll some chickens in seattle downtown.
>
>i actually saw this and tracy can back me up. there really are rolling
>chickens there.
>
>
>jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net
>
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        "i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty
            and witty
                and....hey!!!"

        ellen degeneres at the bathroom mirror
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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at 03:13 pm 9/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>are you sure they were rolling chickens???  or was it flying fish...!!
>                          ha!
>stacy.
>>
i dunno... i was told it was flying sheep!

marianne

>>date:    tue, 24 sep 1996 18:39:16 -0700
>>from:    jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>
>>subject: re: mr. limes, or not?
>>
>>ok, it has to be lets go roll some chickens in seattle downtown.
>>
>>i actually saw this and tracy can back me up. there really are rolling
>>chickens there.
>>
>>
>>jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net
>>
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>        "i feel pretty,
>         i feel pretty,
>         i feel pretty
>            and witty
>                and....hey!!!"
>
>        ellen degeneres at the bathroom mirror
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

pretty crass, kids

i would suggest not rubbing our noses in your good fortune   ---karma gonna
getcha----


>hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
>they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
>lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
>to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
>been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
>heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
>you suckers!
>
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      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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subject:      re: feminism: not for women only (nigc)
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              j. putnam" at sep 25, 96 12:57 pm

amy writes:

> mat posted one reason for closed rock concerts.  personally, i have
> never been to a closed concert.  i've been to womens music concerts
> which were 98.99% women.  i have alternately respected men who could
> deal with being in that space, and loathed them for "invading".  why
> is it that men feel thye have to be included *everywhre*?

as i have never been moshing (let alone "moshlesting") i can't speak
to matt's point -- though i'd think that it would be a better idea to
arrest the folks for sexual assult (which is really the case) than
have to close things down for the men.  still practicalities being
practicalities i can understand why these concerts went women only --
a very good reason, basically some assholes ruined it for the rest.

however i've been on that 1.01% side of the gender distribution.  when
i went to see dissapper fear at the iron horse about a year ago i got
there (with two female friends) early, quite early.  i didn't think
anything of it until the folks i was sitting with noticed some stares
coming my way.  turns out at that point the ratio was 30:1.  i
shrugged, "their problem" and went back to dinner (mind you it wasn't
everyone, just a select few).  as the concert began, the ratio had
evened out somewhat (i'd say 10:1 or so).  i sang, i danced, i had
fun.  i was also in a front table.  after the show i asked sonia if
cindy was going to be on the album, she smiled and said "yes, she's on
the album but not just touring."  i smiled and said great show and
turned to leave.  she asked me what my name was, extended her hand
(which i shook) and smiled saying "nice to meet you and thanks for
coming."

now, i wasn't trying to invade.  i happen to love df and have since i
went to college at johns hopkins (in baltimore where df hails from).
i think i found them in '89.  i was going to listen to the band. did
those folks think i was forcing myself upon their lives because i went
to a concert they attended and shared space with them? if so, i'm
sorry but i can't take responsibility for that reaction.

i respect amy's honesty in saying that she oscillates on these issues
and in some ways i can understand why she does; however at the end of
the day if the sexes can't share a simple concert what hope is there
for bridging the understanding gap that cecile spoke of?

> nope, but in a space where women are talking about concerns particular to
> women, for example, and men present dont respect that, why shoudl the
> women put up with that?  why should the women have to endure the
> disrespect?  they shouldnt, expecially if the topic involves some
> aspect of womens experience which is not shared by men.

women should never have to endure disrespect.  people should never
have to endure disrespect.  however, again, if the conversations are
not accessible for listening and understanding what hope is there to
foster the respect for the issues at hand?  i think most people would
agree that at the heart of things that concern women are also issues
that concern men.  when i dig to the crux of things, i find that most
issues are in fact people issues.

> well, i'm sorry oyou feel this way.  i am not seeing a lot of
> sympathy for the oppression of women over time.  feminism is
> a celebration of equality when all sides are on equal footing.  we
> are not.  and personally, i believe ther are more than two genders
> anyway, but that's anotehr whol ball of wax i wont get into here.
> feminism is not about entrenching differences.  exclusion is not
> always about entrenching differences.  yes tehre are radical separatists
> out there who refuse to have anythign to do with men.  thre are the
> same sorts among men, in the gay male community for example.  tehy are
> fractions of the population. while feminist men, as i said, are invaluable
> to the movement in many ways, there are just some things that men cannot
> understand, and to that end, women need to be able to gatehr strangth
> among each other, away from men.

i can only change my little corner of the world.  i have personally
convinced two former students of mine that they can in fact be
sucessful physics majors when they both thought that they didn't match
up to their peers (mostly men). i put them in touch with the "women in
physics" group at mit.  one is now in grad school az. state.  the fact
is the frustration i experience when men are generalized to be
disrespectful and condecending is precisely the same frustration that
women have been facing a whole lot longer.  i guess i'm like you amy,
i long for that time when people can just treat each other like people
and judge them as they come.


                                -- chris

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 16:05:25 -0700
reply-to:     carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
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from:         carolyn chow <egg@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc:  danielle howle directions for redmond?

hey all,

sorry to waste bandwidth with the whole danielle pacific northwest
confusion.

but, if anyone has any information about the redmond show, please let me
know.  i've tried calling all the numbers possible and they're all wrong.
there isn't even a firehouse 'venue' place in redmond, is there?
driectory assistance has no clue. it would stink that she's so close and i
would've missed her because i couldn't find the place.  how embarrasing.

:)

trying to find directions and what time she's scheduled to go on but no
luck.  help!!

we're so lucky that she's coming.  she's so great live.

anyway, hope everyone's having a fine day.  and i'm looking forward to
meeting a bunch of you listees tomorrow night in olympia.

carolyn

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 23:06:09 gmt
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subject:      georgia: nice town? nigc

a friend of mine on #indigo-girls (hey yakkie!!) once told me that being
gay was grounds for being laid off your job...  i'm not sure whether this
was in atlanta, but i thought it was... please don't flame if i got it
wrong...

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reply-to:     alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
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from:         alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
subject:      re: cover me (slight tori amos content)
x-to:         jonny wu <wuman@warwick.net>

on sep 24, 1996 21:34:09, 'jonny wu <wuman@warwick.net>' wrote:


>tori amos-airplane

stroke of genius...  i'm sitting here listening to little earthquakes and
wondering whether anyone else notices that the opening line in the song
"silent all these years" (the words are: "excuse me but can i be you for a
while") sounds exactly like the beggining of zep's "going to california."
i know she cover's zep live a bit, and she did thank you on the crucify
single, but whatever...  i just noticed...  sorry for the bandwidth...

alec

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subject:      nigc - my jerk of an art professor

okay guys, my art history professor said something in class last week that
really upset me, and i don't know anyone better to bitch about it to than
you all, so here's my little story.
we were looking at the painting "death of marat" by jacques-louis david,
this 18th century french painter. for those of you who don't know the
picture and the story behind it, marat was an ardent supporter of the
revolutionaries during the french revolution, and he was killed in his
bathtub by a woman named charlotte corday, who supported the king's side.
so we were looking at this picture, and my professor was talking about
charlotte corday, and he read from an article written at the time of the
murder (about 1791) which described her as an intellectual woman, who
didn't fit into the typical role of a woman for that time period, but was
involved in politics, was something of a tomboy, etc., and that she lived
with her aunt. so my professor reads this, and then he looks up at us and
says, "so basically, she was a dyke who came from a long line of dykes."
some people in the class laughed, but i couldn't believe my ears and
listened with disgust to the rest of the lecture. to make matters worse,
classes here have discussion sections that meet once a week in addition to
the lectures, and the leader of my section is the professor himself, so i
have to be in a small room with this guy every week. yuck.
well that's all, but it realy pissed me off and i just thought i'd share.

peace and enlightened educators,
amy

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subject:      a&e smoking etc.

naz:

amen to your comments about stories involving a&e's activities.
tough line to walk isnt it?

inquiring minds want to know, but dammit, emotional discipline is so
damn hard.

also....<<<oh, before i go... i heard that amy likes to roll her own
chickens..>>>>>>

isn't amy a vegetarian?  wouldn't she, then, roll her own asparagus?


melissa

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from:         ann m labeck <aml@scn.org>
subject:      re daniele in redmond

hi all!

it was me, yes me, who gave tracy the info on the redmond
show for daniele.  and i've been trying to email tracy to let her
know that the info i sent her about the redmond show for daniele
is incorrect!
the only firehouse i could find in redmond was the one in the phone
book that i gave her the info on---and it's wrongola!

but!  i have redeemed myself and now have the correct info!!

i know this stuff is correct, because i talked with the person
who scheduled the show (there is a place in redmond called the
old firehouse after all, but it's not in the phone book)

daniele plays at 8 (after an opening act, actually)
cost:  $5
place:  the old firehouse in redmond (used to house the y, she
said...)

address:  16510  ne 80th st.    redmond  phone:  (206) 556-2330
or (206) 556-2370 (msg. phone)

hope this gets to her (and y'all) in time.  sorry for the confusion!

my best shot at directions:

going north on 405, take the kirkland/redmond exit, and go east
toward redmond (this exit is north of bellevue).  stay on that
road--it will take you down into downtown redmond.

find cleveland st. square mall (stop and ask directions--folks
should be real nice), then look for daniel's dry cleaners--it's
kinda behind there.  call one of the numbers above for
better details!

i feel better now!

ann

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 19:31:00 -0400
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from:         andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
subject:      12:00 curfews/1200 curfews

>hi naz
>kim from north van here, just to let you know, there isn't a conspiracy,
>we all love a+e, if you have the 12:00 curfews cd, pull out the book and
>turn to the pictures in the middle. the right page, top right-hand
>corner, now... is amy yawning or smoking, we only want to know the
>truth!!! loving to stir things up, can't imagine kissing amy anymore,
>quit for your voice amy before it's too late, sincerely, kim (n.v.)
>(ahem, perhaps we should lighten up, hey?)


kim-
i noticed that you wrote "12:00 curfews."  did you see all my problems
trying to figure that out awhile ago?  everyone decided that it was 1200
curfews (w/o the colon), meaning that they broke 1200 curfews while playing
concerts.  just wanted to clear that up!  :)

also, regarding the yawning/smoking thing, why would amy choose to put a
picture of herself smoking in the center of a cd book?  it doesn't make
sense.  then again, why would she put a picture of herself yawning?  anyone
have an answer?  just wondering...

andi

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                              andrea lipman
                       e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
         check out my new webpage, which has nothing too exciting
          on it yet, but will definitely be cool in the future:
                   http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

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subject:      re: cover me
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in-reply-to:  <32488c11.2768@warwick.net>

on tue, 24 sep 1996, jonny wu wrote:

> tracy chapman-virginia wolf
> tori amos-airplane
> frente!-hammer & nail
> simon & garfunkel-love's recovery
> mellisa etherege-bury my heart at wounded knee
> natali merchant-power of two
>
>
> .........what do you think?
>
>    hell, yeah!!!!  rock on!  -mandy
>                                 jonny
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subject:      re we're their biggest fans, or whatever

stacy friedman wrote:

>she even came over and
>heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
>you suckers!

so,what's your point?  (assuming, of course, that there was a point
other than "neener, neener, neener...")

ann

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subject:      re: my cat (not much igc)
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on tue, 24 sep 1996, jeff & kirsten wrote:

> my cat just died.  i wish i could write a song for him, as beautiful
> as secure yourself....
>

that would be dead man's hill....

i think....
-mandy

> kirsten in van
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!
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> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> you suckers!
>
aren't you precious inside?

-mandy

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subject:      re: feminism: not for women only (nigc)
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what about all the for men only things.  are they alright to or does that
not fit into your utopia.  just a thought.

neil...

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subject:      ellen!!!!!!

hey ya'll!

did anyone just notice the big ol' picture of kd lang from the 1994 interview
magazine that was adorning ellen's bedroom wall in "ellen" tonight?

open that door!  the girl is on the way out!


peace-

karrie

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subject:      femenism, maleism, screw it, peopleism, (ie, nigc)

hi all.  this little sucker has been pissing me off for a few years.  i
mean, not this thread, but the idea behind it.  okay, i got a lot to say,
so here goes...

did anyone else notice that when the subject of the oposite of femenism was
suggested, it was maleism.  i disagree, in fact, i call to everyone, male
and female, on this list, to join with the maleist movement.  i mean, let's
think about this; if a feminist believes that, in a nutshell, women are
equal to men, shouldn't maleism mean that men are equal to women?  i mean,
there's a little bit of something, isn't there?

next subject.  i am in my high school's (hey all, i'm fifteen, that brings
down that few notches, don't it?:) alternative school program.  for all of
y'all who don't know what it is, it's an alternative to the traditional
schooling based pretty much on the 9 common principles of essential
schools; which says alot of stuff.  the point is that the school is based
on community.  in our community there is an exact split between men and
women.  there are more men in our community that are timid and tend not to
speak than there are women.

while on the topic of the a-school, i'd like to bring something up that
happened there last year.  there's a club there called the happy to be me
club, as well as there was the women's self defense club.  because they
were a-school clubs, they weren't sanctioned by the main school, and thus
certain regulations were not applicable.  what i'm getting at is that these
clubs were both exclusive to males.  happy to me discusses, mostly, body
image and the like, and women's self defense is pretty much self
explanitory.  when a few males in the community asked to attend a meeting
of either of these clubs, they were refused.  so my friend started the
happy to be male club.  the entire thing is a joke, i believe, in and of
itself, but what is quite valid is the fact that the second it came into
existence, many of the women in the community were suddenly quite mad.
there is still debate over it.

it bothers me that i need to label people for who they support.  i hate the
fact, (and some of my irc buddies can validate this) that there are so many
gay pride parades, and, in fact, gay pride anything.  i am, don't get me
wrong, incredibly in favor of, how should i put this, gayness, but i don't
understand why people think seperatism will get them equality.  a bunch of
gay people marching means a bunch of straight people wondering why they're
different.  i mean, i guess the only true label i could deal with would be
a peopleism type thing.  i mean, i'm a straight white male, i can't really
have pride in any of that.  i mean, we haven't been historically opressed,
so who are we to be proud of ourselves?  i have pride in people.  i think
that everybody is equal, and only a people party should exist?  how's that?


here's a great experience i had once.  my friends (at the time, all girls,
this groups, mine included, guy friends were gone for the summer at the
time) were planning a nice social night.  so i call, as i always do, to
find out what's going on.  i was told that they wanted a girls night.  to
quote myself, i said "what the fuck is this?"  and i repeat the question.
what the fuck was that?  i mean, we're friends, what kind of lines are
needed? they said there were things they weren't comfortable discussing
around guys.  there is nothing i am uncomfortable discussing in front of
them.  where's the sexism here?  i see where y'all can say that i am
intimidating, but you're going about it the wrong way.  you can't defeat
sexism by ignoring it.  by excluding me, your only saying that your comfort
zone will always be only with females.  i guess i have to go out with the
rest of the men and kill some animals and eat them raw, followed by dancing
around a fire, howling at the moon, drinking beer, and plotting to make all
women degraded.  meanwhile, the girls will be sitting around solving the
worlds  problems?  they haven't even solved their own yet.  i'm sorry, but
that particular event is still very emotional for me.

so, for all of you people who are feminists, perhaps your being sexist?
men, women, gay, straight, white, black, blue, apple, pear, prozac, paxil,
pc, mac (well, maybe not all things are equal  :-) there is only *one* race
of humans on this earth.  there is no "homo gayus", no "homo femalus".  we
are all the same.  seperate us all you like, but something has to exist as
a whole before it's seperated.  feminism isn't just closing the gap, it's
widening it as well.  if any of you come away with the idea that i don't
like women, or the goals of feminism, you haven't read carefully enough,
and i'm sorry for my tone, i probably shouldn't be so harsh, but this
really *really* bothers me.

so, if you want to flame me for loving all people and not just a select
few, fire away, but otherwise, have a nice day.

alec

ps, i read somewhere the the word "woman" has nothing to do with the word
"man".

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 17:35:45 -0700
reply-to:     kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
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subject:      re: femenism, maleism, screw it, peopleism, (ie, nigc)
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so, we should all be exactly alike & ignore our diversity rather than
celebrate it?

alec heller wrote:
>
> hi all.  this little sucker has been pissing me off for a few years.  i
> mean, not this thread, but the idea behind it.  okay, i got a lot to say,
> so here goes...
>
> did anyone else notice that when the subject of the oposite of femenism was
> suggested, it was maleism.  i disagree, in fact, i call to everyone, male
> and female, on this list, to join with the maleist movement.  i mean, let's
> think about this; if a feminist believes that, in a nutshell, women are
> equal to men, shouldn't maleism mean that men are equal to women?  i mean,
> there's a little bit of something, isn't there?
>
> next subject.  i am in my high school's (hey all, i'm fifteen, that brings
> down that few notches, don't it?:) alternative school program.  for all of
> y'all who don't know what it is, it's an alternative to the traditional
> schooling based pretty much on the 9 common principles of essential
> schools; which says alot of stuff.  the point is that the school is based
> on community.  in our community there is an exact split between men and
> women.  there are more men in our community that are timid and tend not to
> speak than there are women.
>
> while on the topic of the a-school, i'd like to bring something up that
> happened there last year.  there's a club there called the happy to be me
> club, as well as there was the women's self defense club.  because they
> were a-school clubs, they weren't sanctioned by the main school, and thus
> certain regulations were not applicable.  what i'm getting at is that these
> clubs were both exclusive to males.  happy to me discusses, mostly, body
> image and the like, and women's self defense is pretty much self
> explanitory.  when a few males in the community asked to attend a meeting
> of either of these clubs, they were refused.  so my friend started the
> happy to be male club.  the entire thing is a joke, i believe, in and of
> itself, but what is quite valid is the fact that the second it came into
> existence, many of the women in the community were suddenly quite mad.
> there is still debate over it.
>
> it bothers me that i need to label people for who they support.  i hate the
> fact, (and some of my irc buddies can validate this) that there are so many
> gay pride parades, and, in fact, gay pride anything.  i am, don't get me
> wrong, incredibly in favor of, how should i put this, gayness, but i don't
> understand why people think seperatism will get them equality.  a bunch of
> gay people marching means a bunch of straight people wondering why they're
> different.  i mean, i guess the only true label i could deal with would be
> a peopleism type thing.  i mean, i'm a straight white male, i can't really
> have pride in any of that.  i mean, we haven't been historically opressed,
> so who are we to be proud of ourselves?  i have pride in people.  i think
> that everybody is equal, and only a people party should exist?  how's that?
>
> here's a great experience i had once.  my friends (at the time, all girls,
> this groups, mine included, guy friends were gone for the summer at the
> time) were planning a nice social night.  so i call, as i always do, to
> find out what's going on.  i was told that they wanted a girls night.  to
> quote myself, i said "what the fuck is this?"  and i repeat the question.
> what the fuck was that?  i mean, we're friends, what kind of lines are
> needed? they said there were things they weren't comfortable discussing
> around guys.  there is nothing i am uncomfortable discussing in front of
> them.  where's the sexism here?  i see where y'all can say that i am
> intimidating, but you're going about it the wrong way.  you can't defeat
> sexism by ignoring it.  by excluding me, your only saying that your comfort
> zone will always be only with females.  i guess i have to go out with the
> rest of the men and kill some animals and eat them raw, followed by dancing
> around a fire, howling at the moon, drinking beer, and plotting to make all
> women degraded.  meanwhile, the girls will be sitting around solving the
> worlds  problems?  they haven't even solved their own yet.  i'm sorry, but
> that particular event is still very emotional for me.
>
> so, for all of you people who are feminists, perhaps your being sexist?
> men, women, gay, straight, white, black, blue, apple, pear, prozac, paxil,
> pc, mac (well, maybe not all things are equal  :-) there is only *one* race
> of humans on this earth.  there is no "homo gayus", no "homo femalus".  we
> are all the same.  seperate us all you like, but something has to exist as
> a whole before it's seperated.  feminism isn't just closing the gap, it's
> widening it as well.  if any of you come away with the idea that i don't
> like women, or the goals of feminism, you haven't read carefully enough,
> and i'm sorry for my tone, i probably shouldn't be so harsh, but this
> really *really* bothers me.
>
> so, if you want to flame me for loving all people and not just a select
> few, fire away, but otherwise, have a nice day.
>
> alec
>
> ps, i read somewhere the the word "woman" has nothing to do with the word
> "man".
>
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reply-to:     kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
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from:         kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
subject:      re: glam 96, ellen, greta (sigc)

before ellen became so famous, she was out. if my memory serves me right,
she was interviewed several years ago by the now-defunct hotwire magazine,
where she had no qualms about describing herself as a lesbian comic.

and oh girl, waddn't she cute on rosie today!  for the first 5 minutes she &
rosie talk about how ellen (morgan, of course!) is going to come out as
'lebanese' (sic).  then ellen very nearly 'outs' rosie, as in "...sometimes
i think i pick up on the fact that you're lebanese too.  but that's ok,
half of hollywood is lebanese...." . not a direct quote, but to the best of
my memory.  what a hoot.

kimberly hobbs wrote:
>
> on wed, 25 sep 1996, denise eng wrote:
>
> ellen's character may be "coming out" in the show,is the actress herself a
> lesbian?> > denise e.
>
> according to "curve" magazine (formerly known as denueve until catherine
> sued them!) yes, there is ample proof that she is a sister. i went to see
> her in vancouver a couple of years ago and k.d. lang was in the audience,
> and apparently they "took off" together after the show much to the
> chagrin of many autograph hungry fans waiting at the back door. it was a
> much publicised "insensitive oversight". oh, i'm not saying she is cos
> she spends time with k.d. lang, i read somewhere else that she was hot
> and heavy with some gorgeous girl in a bar in new york. who knows really,
> but my spider senses tell me yes! i like to think she is, anyway!!! k (n.v.)
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from:         hothead <hothead@htonline.com>
subject:      re: ellen!!!!!!

digest "karrie bowen" wrote:
>
> hey ya'll!
>
> did anyone just notice the big ol' picture of kd lang from the 1994 interview
> magazine that was adorning ellen's bedroom wall in "ellen" tonight?
>
> open that door!  the girl is on the way out!
>
> peace-
> i can't believe that you beat me to the punch! i thought that i would be
the first one to post about the pictures above ellen's bed, seeing as how
the show just ended, and most of y'all are in later time zones...
kinda looks like she' indeed is working up to something ;)

m

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subject:      re: nigc - my jerk of an art professor

amy/queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:

> okay guys, my art history professor said something in class last week that
> really upset me, and i don't know anyone better to bitch about it to than
> you all, so here's my little story.

[snip: knucklewalker prof calls 18th century woman he never met "a dyke who
came from a long line of dykes."]

well, i imagine there's somebody better to bitch about it to. at penn
anyway, we had a free expression committee or some such thing. it was a
forum where you could bring complaints against profs (or anyone) for school
speech code violations. it was sometimes used as a sort of kangaroo court to
conduct media circus drumhead trials of profs for saying borderline
politically incorrect things. but it seems to me that in this case, your
prof said something which was not just controversial or politically
incorrect (although it was those also) but actually created a hostile or
threatening environment as evidenced by your fearful-sounding description of
having to be in discussion section with this guy. this hostile/threatening
thing was penn's test for whether speech crosses the line into non-first
amendment-protected area. i don't know what is princeton's venue for this
and what the test of speech is. but i should think in this case this guy is
hosed if you care to take him to task for it. i'm all for debate and
discussion and airing unpopular points of view. professors even can be
anti-gay if they want to, so long as they debate openly and fairly, and the
"free market of ideas" should expose them as retrograde baboons. but even if
they are anti-gay, slurs really aren't neccessary. go after him.

-dave

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 21:24:05 -0500
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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      nigc lesbian films...

since we're talking about lesbian films, i have to add my $.02.
i have seen several lesbian films in the last 10 years, and
the thing that bothers me about these films is what happens
to the directors after the films are released.

the directors get to do a first film like desert hearts or
go fish, but then they are not allowed to do follow-up
films.  the directors aren't allowed to have careers doing
lesbian films.  right now, they're are more lesbian
films being made than ever before, i just hope we get
to see careers happen, not just a single work here and
there.

by the way, the best lesbian film i've seen is still
desert hearts.  being a straight male, i don't know
what my opinion is worth to y'all.

a new film, bound, will be released soon, i recommend it!

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subject:      avenue i for indigo....

hi everyone!

i'm beginning to think that i have some sort of psychic connection to the
public radio station here, wfuv (90.7, fordham university).  it seems that
every time i'm driving down avenue i in brooklyn on my way to school, they
play an indigo girls song.  today it was land of canaan (the version from
ig).  the first time it happened this semester they were doing an a to z
thing and they just happened to be at the i's and played watershed when i
turned onto ave. i.   it's happened at least once each week, and i don't
drive to school at the same time each day.  kinda weird, huh?

btw, they played the new shawn colvin song, get out of this house and it
sounds pretty cool.  can't wait til oct. 1st....  also heard warren zevon
covering her tenderness on the block.  as long as i am on the subject of
covers, they played nirvana's all apologies by none other than.... sinead
o'connor-  very interesting!

i'm gonna go watch the ellen that i taped- so much suspense surrounding the
direction of her character.... although i'll still love her show no matter
what she decides to do!

have a good one!

-sheri : )

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  _       _ ------ _               o      |....when you learn
{  ~\_/         o   \    o  o           |to love yourself
{  ~ _   ]          <  o                 |you will dissolve
{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
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subject:      nigc- phish tickets

hi,

if you haven't deleted this message, maybe you're a phish-head?  anyway, i
have two tickets to the 10/18 show at the pittsburgh civic arena, but i can't
go.  so i figured i would offer the tickets to my pals on the list before i
do to those i don't know as well.

if interested please email me.  these are being offered at face value, plus
postage if i mail them.

-sheri : )

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{  ~\_/         o   \    o  o           |to love yourself
{  ~ _   ]          <  o                 |you will dissolve
{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
   seaphish@aol.com                -amy ray
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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 19:37:00 -0700
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subject:      fav. album
x-to:         monet <monet@mo.net>
in-reply-to:  <pine.bsi.3.91.960925125151.12834a-100000@walden.mo.net>

hi, lisa & all--

i am relatively new to ig too and brand new to the list (first day--i was
overwhelmed by 111 messages, wow).  i just wanted to give you my input on
which cd to buy, i absolutely love nomads indians saints.

i'll be seeing y'all around

--the lone coyote

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subject:      re: wonderstuff do closer to fine
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.93.960925121005.16309b-100000@osfb.aber.ac.uk>

on wed, 25 sep 1996, indigo jo wrote:

> can anyone tell me where i can find the wonderstuff's cover of "closer to
> fine"?       <snippage>
>  is this the right name for the ep?

yes, this is the ep; i have it. (that's my proof *grin*) actually, i
always think of it as the "full of life(happy now)"-single-with-some-other
songs-including-"closer to fine"-on-it, but hey, what's in a name? (i know
it's properly referred to as an ep..)

anyway...if there is someone out there who just really needs toohear the
song i could tape the song for you. as for finding the ep, there are
people on the wonder stuff mailing list who can find anything wonder stuff
related--so feel free to email me if you would like me to introduce you.
*grin*

inspired by gravity,
linda

        **they're just fanatics acting fanatically. they give
          bona-fide paranoids like myself a bad name...**
                                        --mulder

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subject:      re: avenue i for indigo....

sheri said:

>also heard warren zevon covering her tenderness on the block.

ouch!  before you get flamed, i will let you know that you have it backwards
- shawn was covering warren's song when she recorded that for fat city (he
wrote it with jackson browne).

>as long as i am on the subject of
>covers, they played nirvana's all apologies by none other than.... sinead
>o'connor-  very interesting!

that's on her last one, universal mother (right deb? :).

>i'm gonna go watch the ellen that i taped- so much suspense surrounding the
>direction of her character.... although i'll still love her show no matter
>what she decides to do!

well, i was watching it until my ex called to tell me that he totalled my
old nissan last night.  :(  i am so happy i have my new mazda.  :)

:dwayne

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"you can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets,
or you can realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself
makes much more sense to live in the present tense" - pearl jam

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subject:      fw: cover me

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from:   dan perkins[smtp:dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us]
sent:   wednesday, september 25, 1996 12:28 pm
to:     'teddie@telepath.com'
subject:        cover me

listers - this is from dan perkins (off the list right now, back in about six months or so)

chicken man     - melissa etheridge

crazy game      - k.d. lang

joking          - paul mccartney (i really want to hear him
                  play sara's bass line from 1200 curfews! my
                  two favorite bassists: sara lee and paul m.)

virginia wolf   - joni mitchell

pushing the
needle too far  - ani difranco

fugitive        - r.e.m.

love's recovery - nancy griffith

world falls     - chris mckay (if you don't know cm, check
                               her out, she is great!)
this train      - neil young (ig does, imho, the definitive
                               version of down by the river,
                               so, i figure neil owes ig!)

love will come
to you          - the bodeans

i don't wanna
know            _ tom petty & the heartbreakers

land of canaan  - chrissi hynde & the pretenders
                  (as a totally irrelevant side note: has anyone else ever
                   thought chrissi hynde and tom petty would make a cute
                   couple? i mean to me these two are rock n' roll!)

fare thee well  - barbara streisand (i know, totally out of left field,
                  but what can i say i like her)

let it be me    - paul simon (not the senator, the singer!)

least complicated - tracy chapman

mystery           - ricki lee jones (when emily sings the line
                    "i could go crazy on a night like tonight.."
                    my heart simply melts... anyone else?)


the girl with the
weight of the world
on her hands         - lyle lovett (lyle is fantastic! check out his
                       newest album: the road to ensanada)

closer to fine - the members of the indigo girls listserve mailing list!
                 we could all get together at a club in atlanta and record
                 this song for the last cut on the album! - i mean, hey as
                 long as we're dreaming about producing a tribute albume,
                 why not extend the dream a little??

thanks for the idea.

peace,

dan perkins

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subject:      ellen on conan's show tonight!!!

hi kiddies,

just a quick note to let you all know that i just heard that her ellen-ness
will be on conan o'brien's show tonight!  she sure is busy this week, isn't
she? (g)

joan :-d

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subject:      (nigc)  catie c., etc. in nashville

hello, it's your friendly provider of nashville club/concert listings.
i was happy to learn today that catie curtis will be playing in nashville
sunday night at a cool little place called 3rd & lindsley bar and grill as
part of the local aaa station's "sunday night live" broadcast.  cover is
$5.    also, jonatha brooke and the story will be playing two evening shows
at caffe milano here in nashville on tuesday october 1st.  cover is $15
for that one.  other cool things coming up:

on october 8th, there will be a really cool benefit concert for road manager phil
kaufman at the legendary ryman auditorium.  the lineup includes john prine,
nanci griffith, emmylou harris, steve earle, trisha yearwood, and rodney
crowell, plus some "very special guests."  tickets are available through
ticketmonster by calling (615) 255-9600.

on october 9th, widespread panic will perform at vanderbilt unviersity's
memorial gym.  leftover salmon will be opening the show.  you can get tickets
through t-monster at the same number.

peace and music with integrity,

joan :)

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subject:      re: avenue i for indigo....

in a message dated 96-09-25 23:48:11 edt, djarrell@ix2.ix.netcom.com
(dragonman) writes:

<< sheri said:

>also heard warren zevon covering her tenderness on the block.

ouch!  before you get flamed, i will let you know that you have it backwards
- shawn was covering warren's song when she recorded that for fat city (he
wrote it with jackson browne).
  >>

whoops!  didn't know that.... thanks, dwayne for setting me straight....
ok, everyone, i'm ready <stepping into fire-retardant undies> - let the
flaming commence (but please exercise some mercy, i know not what i do)!

-sheri : )

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{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      responses to feminism posts

in the interest of not flooding the list with long posts responding
to each message, iwill compile responses to all of them.  they are being
addressed only in order of appearance in my e-mail box, for no other reason.

peter has the honor of being first.  ok.  first, let's clarify something.
peter mentioned that when he is being excluded by a womens group, they
have the power over him.  not quite.  but, again, a meeting is not
preventing you from having your own meeting.  seldom is a meeting held
in a vaccum or with no intent to communicate with men.  i say seldom
because as all of the guys who have responded to this thread have said,
ther are always exceptions.  i believe this is true.  a meeting or
one group structure is not a change of power dynamic much in the way
that patriarchy has influenced a power dynamic over society.  yes
there are exclusive womens spaces which are rabidly man hating.  not mine
(i live with two straight men) nor do i per se condone them.  we all
need different things.  i *like* women only places.  i dont *live*
for them.  i go once a week to a lesbain discussion group that is in
a womens center, no men allowed.  it's a welcome break to me.  i deal
with men in all aspects of my life all the time.  having a coupel of
hours a week with only women doesnt theaten that or those men in any way.
it *reinforces* me.  big differnce.  peter, i think it is great that you
are a member of now and attend feminisnt discussions.  again, as i have said
before, this is all valuable.  but there is also value to the women
who meet separate from the comapny of men to that time "away".  for
some, like me, it is a re-charge time.  for some, a way to brainstorm
and think things through.  all have differnte reasons to be there.
and for those who protest the women only center, think of one practical
reason.  when a woman has been battered, she doesnt want to deal with men.
a womens center is one safe place to go.  there *are* women where their
life is so controlled by the men in it that it takes something of a
spearate place to allow them to get some bearings of themselves and not
just the regurgiated perceptions fed to her by those men.

chris..like you, i would love a world in which diferences are not
divisive.  i think it sucks you were being stared down at a df concert.
i woildnt do that.  my "days of loathing" were years ago, when i was
first out and really valuing energy at the 98.99% women attendfed
concerts.  those were concerts by women musicians who were writing music
about women and for women.  when i was a young feminst and dyke, that
soprt of energy was very valuable as a nurturng energy.  i felt that
men were interfering with my experience of that enbergy.  yeah i know it may
sound silly to some of the men here, but it's how i felt.  nowadays,
i go to concerts where the crowd is likely to be much more mixed.  if
an out lesbian is performing and men can get into it, i am much more
ok about it, more ok about opening teh space to all.  i hope this made sense.
i also agree that things change only when there is communication between
all groups, but some women find the strength and articulateness first in
being with women only.  we have to start with a groudning step somewhere.

neil, in a utopia, anyone could meet with any sort of group and no one
would fuss about it.  to the best of my knowledge, women only groups
do not exist to dominate, take over, or try to reverse sexist oppression
to men.  some might, i dont know and i dont associate with those folks.
i dont have a problem with a guys night out kinda thing.

alec,  coupla things.  your female friends wanting a night to themselves.
you said you could say anything to them.  with alldue respect, are you
sure they would want to hear *everything*?  can you tell me that you have
never made a joke or said something to another guy which you wouldnt want
to repeat to a woman/girl?  maybe you have.  but, the truth is that about
some things women are more comgfortable talking abotu somethings with
no guys around.  especially if these friends are the same age as you,
please remember that young women/teeneage girls are dealing with their
own sort of societal stuff at that age and saying things to their
girlfriends may be more important now than in 10 years.  i cant speak to
your friends' motives, but this is something to pershaps consider.
as for gay pride, pride is not about exclusion of straights. its about
having one day each year when gays/lesbians/bis/trans can feel strong as
a group and maybe hold hands without worrying abotu getting the crap beat out
of them.  watch ho wmany straights are openly affectionate and hjow many gays
are....big difference.  it still isnt safe to be openly gay in many places
and pride is about that...a day where it is more safe to be out and proud
and strong.  i am sorry if you disagree with it, but i treasure this
day, even as a lesbian out in her day to day.  tehre is nothing like
being surrounded by more than 100,000 (in boston) otehr gays and lesbians/.
and very often there are straights welcomed tehre, grods like pflag.
it all counts.  pride is not about being separatist, it is about taking
one loudly visible day for ourselves, in a culture where we are bombarded
with heterosexual images almost every minute of each day.

anotehr though i had to something alec said, that the opposite of feminism
is implied to be maleism.  no. to that i say the opposite is sexism,
either obvous or subtle.  women can be sexist to other women too, i hasve
seen it and expiereinced it.  it is still a world where a strong business
man is aggressive and a strong business woman isa bitch.  trhe opposite
of feminsm is not a maleism as much as it is a passive or active effort
to not challenge sexism in our world, as well as all of the other isms.

this got long enough.  i hope it helps to clarify some of my points and
respond to other points made.  thanks.


amy p.                          /       who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com                /        when you're alone
                              /
the original photo monk      /                  --patty larkin

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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      re: we are the number one fans...

        hey y'all...well i just wanted to say that you all are the best
bunch of "suckers" i could hope to be attached to...
        jen   (proud of being one of many loyal, respectful ig fans!!!)

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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!
x-to:         sfriedm@emory.edu

this e-mail set me to wondering..what would emily think of you publicizing
your encounters with her in such a way on this venue.here's to the hope that
she has better friends in her inner circle and that you never get the number
to the national inquirer.                        laurabell

p.s.sorry if this is a little harsh but everyone,no matter of fame,deserves
to have friends who respect their privacy.

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 22:37:11 -0500
reply-to:     tracy - home home home home <clumber@smtp.prostar.com>
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from:         tracy - home home home home <clumber@smtp.prostar.com>
subject:      nigc: jeni's directions to dh in oly

hey jeni - lookie, i made you a thread!! lol

>>tracy <who actually managed to find where i was going with directions from
>>jeni like, "there is an intersection with 3 roads. one is mine and the
>>other is gallagher cove."

>and your forgot the invisible horses....
        nope - i didn't forget them, i just didn't want to scare the nice
listers too much more... i also did not mention the part about "look for the
tiny blue house" when in reality you meant the house that used to be tiny...
thus i needed to have retroactive observation skills.
        and for those interested in the invisible horses.. here is the c/p
from the directions:
>then go past the horses, but you  may not be able to see them so maybe skip
>that.
        as it turned out, i have now gone to the destination several times
and have yet to see any horses.
                  8^/

tracy <really really getting excited about the danielle shows!! whoo hooo!!>
"so your character may be functioning as a lesbian?"
                -- paraphrased from a poor memory after rotflmao, david letterman
interviewing ellen  25 sept 1996

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 09:00:59 edt
reply-to:     "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
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from:         "j. hunter" <juhunter@fdic.gov>
subject:      nigc 'asta la pasta folks - goodbye fdic

hey 'all.  fdic and i are parting company today.  you can catch me on:

hunterj1@aol.com

at home but not before 9 a.m. est :)

jude :)


here is a little something i lifted from another list i was on: hi deb!

"i'm a godmother, that's a great thing to be, a godmother.  she calls me
"god" for short, that's cute, i taught her that."   --   ellen degeneres

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 10:09:25 -0700
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!
x-to:         lavanonda@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <960926014409_293669580@emout12.mail.aol.com>

dear laura, i agree completely.. lets make a pact that if emily invites
us to run with her(even though i hate running and would throw up)we will
go, and we will not tell anyone. and to the person who wrote "aren't you
precious inside?" i laughed and laughed. to the people who posted the
"sucker" comments... may your liver be ailed by the pitcher you
drank...you made us all feel kinda sad.  kim (north van)

on thu, 26 sep 1996 lavanonda@aol.com wrote:

> this e-mail set me to wondering..what would emily think of you publicizing
> your encounters with her in such a way on this venue.here's to the hope that
> she has better friends in her inner circle and that you never get the number
> to the national inquirer.                        laurabell
>
> p.s.sorry if this is a little harsh but everyone,no matter of fame,deserves
> to have friends who respect their privacy.
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from:         "digest     \"karrie bowen\"" <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
subject:      ellen!!!!!!  nigc

m posted that i beat her to the punch in the ellen and kd picture department!

i posted during the commercial.  actually, i missed the whole deer dream thing
just to sit and type my fingees off.....

i can't wait for next weeks sign!  my roommate and boyfriend both told me
that they read she was going to do subtle things for a few weeks to lead up
to her coming out.....

that's all....

g'night..(or good moring, actually...i work 3rd shift.!)

peace-

karrie

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subject:      nigc_ dh, sit and spin
x-cc:         kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>

wow - i feel so... so... so recognized.. i obviously post too much...

>  tracy, i
>have your description & as long as you're wearing the t-shirt could
>probably pick you out of a crowd.  we don't have our shirts yet but are a
>mid-30-ish typical granola-dyke couple.  maybe a little older than the
>rest of the crowd but otherwise pretty generic, so we'll just look for
>the list t-shirts.  unless we read of any meeting place before hand.
>sit&spin is downtown, 2219 4th avenue, not exactly the gay ghetto & i
>don't know of any particularly gay-friendly establishments in the
>immediate area.  on capitol hill, there's the rosebud cafe, or the
>bauhaus coffee house. or we just all get to the sit&spin early, that
>sounds easier....  anyhow, we'll look for you, & feel free to email
>beforehand.

        personally i would vote for arriving at the spin early??  anyone?
anyone?  see.. some list members whose names may rhyme with wundara and
bwendigo seem to have a problem with the rosebud cafe... ahem....  anyhow...

thanks for the directions!!!  jeni is not only the wardrobe coordinator, but
the green dog/dyke mobile navigator as well.. get that jeni?

tracy

"isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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subject:      nigc: dh on oly final planning post

hey all... i won't be at my computer for the rest of the day, nor will jeni
be with hers, so here is the official green lurker & tracy summary of the
plans for danielle howle **tonight** in olympia, washington.

the show:
        "midnight sun"  8pm  $5... this in in downtown olympia and thus is
terribly easy to find.

the list:
        we are planning to meet at dancing goats (a cafe or something and i
do not think we have to bring goats with us, i expect they are provided...
lol!) at 7pm.  it is very near the midnight sun and so we will be there
until 7:30 or :45 ish.

the directions:
        go south on 5 til you get to the state capital exit. exit there and
keep left, you will go under a tunnel (very cool) and end up on capital way,
the very same one mentioned in hey kind friend, amy hangs out in oly all the
time :). at capital way go right. once you get to downtown (about 5-6
blocks) find a place to park, cause you are there. we are trying to meet at
dancing goats. it is located on the corner of 4th ave and washington (i
think). it is near bulldog news and a closed down theater. midnight sun is
about 2 blocks away.

the ones to blame:
        me: i will be wearing the list shirt, black jeans, fake black keds
hightops, have glasses, brownish hair that did get a cut finally, and am
5'3". i will be trying to hide behind jeni who will be trying to hide behind
me.  we are, ironically, very nervous types in social situations... :-)
        jeni: i just talked to her on the phone and she is wearing her
deamon shirt (black), jeans, boots, and has black cool hair.
        oh and we will both be attempting to take some pics, but neither of
us are "booters" ... ie, i do not have any appropriate recording appliances.
so, you sexy seattleites and such... any of you going to boot?  if nothing
else we can argue about it in person and maybe set it up for the redmond or
seattle shows.  :-)

see you there!!!!!!!

tracy

"isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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subject:      nigc: very very short
x-cc:         ann m labeck <aml@scn.org>

ann m labeck <aml@scn.org> nervously posted )in part):
>hi all!
>
>it was me, yes me, who gave tracy the info on the redmond
>show for daniele.  and i've been trying to email tracy to let her
>know that the info i sent her about the redmond show for daniele
>is incorrect!
thanks hon!! you are wonderful.. sorry i did not get this mail until late
weds... was out playing irl. thank you for your trackdown.  hope to meet you
irl soon!
        no prob hon!! you are great for wanting to help in the first place,
and a saint for getting the info str8 (so to speak) in the end.  you rock.

tracy
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        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 08:59:03 -0400
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from:         joann melnik <jmelnik@lucent.com>
subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
> you suckers!

assuming this is true, and i have my doubts (afterall, the girls have been touring lately),
isn't anyone else struck by the sad and pathetic nature of this post?

pathetic for the poster(s), and sad for emily. here it is, em probably thought she made
some new friends, and all they are interested in is proclaiming their connection to someone
famous. reading it really drove home how difficult it must be for famous people to make
new friends and/or trust any new people they meet.

i sure hope someone from the list who is connected with the girls, or someone who knows
the girls, will print this out and make sure em sees it.

how sad, how very, very, sad.

joann
jmelnik@lucent.com

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from:         joann melnik <jmelnik@lucent.com>
subject:      do you ever skip songs?

last night, after loading up my 5-disc cd player with ig cds,
i realized that i never use the remote to skip over any songs on
any of the girls cds. of course, there are songs i like better than
others, but i never feel the need to actually skip over any of
the songs (which i do with almost every other artist i listen to).

i'm just curious, do any of you ever skip songs? if so, which ones?

joann
jmelnik@lucent.com

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
x-to:         joann melnik <jmelnik@lucent.com>
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i skip jacob's ladder sometimes because i have to be in the right mood to
hear it.  and i know a lot of my friends skip deadman's hill because the
cats on fire image is too much for them to take.  i wouldn't want to be
completely without these wonderful songs though.  <--- my .02


                               jamie a suthard
                        <suthardj@ralph.southwestern.edu>

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 14:20:33 edt
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 25 sep 1996 to 26 sep 1996 - special
              issue

--- you wrote:
widespread panic will perform at vanderbilt unviersity's
memorial gym.  leftover salmon will be opening the show.  you can get tickets
through t-monster at the same number.
--- end of quoted material ---
i have to say go see this show if you want a treat. i saw widespread panic
every month when i was in college (god, was it that long ago? yep) and they put
on a killer show. leftover salmon  is a bar band from boulder co (hi al and
howdy...grin) that rocks the house too, but in a more mellow way.

fun stuff! wish i could go!

-wake up, little susie

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subject:      oops!

sorry i posted the same thing twice, but i got it back saying it wasn't
able to be sent.  dang nag it.  sorry, sorry, sorry  -melissa

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subject:      chickenman on 1200

hi all,

i kinda figured that the girls chose to *not* choose a version
of "chickenman" with a soc in it b/c they didn't want one soc becoming
*the* soc.  i think that's the whole point.  the soc's contain mostly the
same info., but each is unique.  and us go-heads would memorize it and be
impartial to other soc's, maybe.  just a thought.

by the way, this was my first ig concert so i find it really cool that
a song from it made it to an album.  i sometimes imagine that *i'm*
one of the fans you can hear hollering at the beginning of the song.
(lame) but i know i didn't yell, b/c i was still a little shy then.  (not
like i had any clue at the time what could or would become of the show) i
remember thinking halfway through the song that night "why would they play
this dumb song about a chickenman?  wow, they must really like it."  not
that i disliked it before i heard it live, i just hadn't thought much
about it before.  i was hoping to hear r&j.  i was an amy person then, and
i didn't know it yet...      sorry for another long post!

        peace, love, and happiness, -melissa

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from:         queen minerva <amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>
subject:      nigc - update on my art professor

thanks so much, everyone who wrote to me saying i should go talk to my
professor about his comment. i did go, but the result was so surprising
that i thought i should tell you all.
i caught him after lecture today and told him (in as diplomatic a way
as i could manage) how i felt about what he'd said. at first he said that
he had just been interpreting what the 18-century article had said, and
that he was trying to explain how society viewed "unconventional" woman at
the time. i thought he was just trying to cover his ass, but then, to my
complete surprise, he said, "i mean, _i'm_ gay..."  i didn't know what to
say! i still think he shouldn't have made the comment, since it was so
easily construed to be offensive, but somehow it seems quite different
now. am i wrong to assume that everything is "okay" now that i have this
new piece of information about him? i was just so blown away when he said
that. i had myself all psyched up to rail on him about tolerance and
respect, and i didn't have to. weird. anyway, i thought i should update
y'all on this.

thanks for listening,
amy

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subject:      sorry again

just wanted to say sorry again about the joke.  if you guys are getting
this please email me back.  we really didn't want to upset anyone or
disrespect anyone; we really thought people would read the note and
laugh.  we just wanted to make people smile at our stupidity and our
weird sense of humor.  please forgive us and email me back.

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subject:      review: honor (1)

i saw this on the ig-newsgroup. it's from last week's rocket magazine.
thought some of you might be interested.

deb


various artists
honor: a benefit for the honor the earth campaign
(daemon 2 cd)
review by michelle underwood

this compilation bleeds with strength and compassion, featuring
never-released tracks from sould asylum, toad the wet sprocket, victoria
williams, matthew sweet, indigo girls, latin playboys, exene cervenka,
jane siberry, and bruce cockburn.  bonnie raitt and david grisman do a
phenomenal version of "home," and reversing hours' exquisetly gentle
"wounded knee" is the best of the best.

the honor the earth campaign is not just another environmental cause, it
is the first national fundraising and public education effort to combine
artists with grassroot, indigenous communities across north america.  it
works to support more than 200 groups working to protect their communities
from threats such as the destruction of the wetlands and rainforests, high
levels of nuclear wastes being generated around the globe, religious
prejudice, homophobia, racism and sexism.

as heavy-hearted as it may sound, this compilation has a mystic virtue,
and everything about it is entertaining and educational; from the
politically-oriented spoken words, enlightening literature, and songs
expressing humanity and sympathy, right down to the
environmentally-correct packaging (no plastic).  the purchase of "honor"
will not just benefit a worthy cause, it will benefit your listening
pleasure.

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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
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for *shame*!  the mere thought of skipping a song hurts me!  in fact, the
one cd that has songs on it i really just don't like (rop, if anyone
cares) i never listen to because i can't bring myself to skip songs.  it's
wierd, but i have a strange artistic investment in the overall format and
order of the cd.  it would be like changing the lyrical content to skip a
track!

on thu, 26 sep 1996, joann melnik wrote:

> last night, after loading up my 5-disc cd player with ig cds,
> i realized that i never use the remote to skip over any songs on
> any of the girls cds. of course, there are songs i like better than
> others, but i never feel the need to actually skip over any of
> the songs (which i do with almost every other artist i listen to).
>
> i'm just curious, do any of you ever skip songs? if so, which ones?
>
> joann
> jmelnik@lucent.com
>
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reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      packaging

i just read deb's repost of the honor review (thanks deb) and the
reviewer made a mention of how no plastic was used in the packagaing.

while i respect the environmental thought here, does anyone like the
cardboard packaging?  i imagine what they are describing for honor is
the same sort of thing they used on 12cc.  i hated it.  cd's kept
falling on the floor, kept rubbing the palying surface whenever they
were moved.  my 12cc disc 1 is no plonger playable on some tracks.

i guess i like jewel boxes.  yeah they are plastic, but its not like
i'm piling them up in landfills.  personally for a cd case i want
something to last 1000 years!

now if they made the jewel boxes out of recycled material, that would
be way cool =)

                                -- chris

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reply-to:     "kim : goddess in her own reality:)" <rcn@prcn.org>
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subject:      abba/indigo-girls collaberation??? hmmm....

at 10:19 pm 9/24/96 -0500, trace wrote:
>obviously only moments from being taken away by very nice paramedics in
>white uniforms, kim our goddess of delusions babbled on about:

having read the ridiculous and un-goddess-like attire that trace would have
people believe i might actually appear clad in whilst before my public... i
must say in my defense:
i have connections in the rubber room palace, and i am now free... *and* i
have access to my computer!!! so, muwahahaha!!!! yourself, my tracester...
( let all of you other listees tremble in fear at will ):-) those with any
sense at all have already deleted this post... realizing it really has
nothing to do with the indigo girls.( i apologize profusely to all purists ).
( besides, all who know me well, realize that i go no-where unless wearing
my coveralls, steel toed work boots and fetching pink tou-tou.... sheeesh.
jen hall's right... the abba attire, complete with carefully parted blonde
wig etc is something i reserve for silly costume parties and halloween kind
of events...sigh.)( and yes jen... i remember our posts:-) think you we
ought to ask members of this list if'n they'd like to see the
abba/indigo-girls collaboration we dreamed up???? ):-) fun fun fun.:) (
waterloo... couldn't escape if i wanted to...) achem...
>        and as far as the bay city rollers... you are still a wee bit before
>my time... i am sorry to report i was a mere child then of under 10. i
>wasn't allowed to buy records as "groovy" as that... lol.  feel free,
>however, to make fun of my grease phase.
>>tracy <slickin' back her hair and dancing around in a tight black tanktop
>while singing "greased lightning!"  not sure how to get sideburns tho...
hmmm... if you can't beat em... join em...
<kim thinks for a moment... runs out of the room only to reappear moments
later clad in a fetching fuzzy bathrobe over-top teensy baby doll pj's>
"achh acch hem...look at me, i'm sandra dee... lousy with... uhh...
hmmm....
well... being so old and uh...senile... i seem to forget exactly what it
that particular commodity was that i'm supposedly lousy with... and,
uh...what was i talking about here...hey... where'd my overalls and tou tou
go?... uhhh..
peace... kim ( who is looking forward with great expectancy to the abba
reunion tour... weeehaaaa!!! )( as soon as i remember what the hay abba
is... that is ).
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"pain from pearls-hey little girl-
     how much have you grown?"
---------------amy ray------------------
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 15:50:06 -0400
reply-to:     christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      astrological poll?

has anyone ever done a poll of the astrological content of the list?  the
reason i ask is that i'm presently on the bumbershoot tree, the leo
representative, and have noticed a suspicious absence of leos.  i've only
gotten like four requests!  in light of this, and of reading past messages
(eg i'm the capricorn branch and i'm so overwhelmed i could die!), i'm
wondering if there might be a more equitable way to distribute tape trees
so those who get the signs of those astrologically predestined to like the
ig persons get less overwhelmed.  has anyone ever tallied the astrological
content of the list?

just wonderin, avoiding my holocaust readings full-force!

chris ii

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 17:05:30 -0400
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subject:      re: cover me

i just wanted to say that i agree with everyone who said sarah, should cover
ghost.  i think she would do an amazing rendition.  just my thoughts.

peace
sasha

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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      re: nigc_ dh, sit and spin

tracy,  still trying to make me feel guilty:

>        personally i would vote for arriving at the spin early??  anyone?
>anyone?  see.. some list members whose names may rhyme with wundara and
>bwendigo seem to have a problem with the rosebud cafe... ahem....  anyhow...

fine! hee hee... we can just meet at the rosebud cafe if you want to!
actually it doesn't matter to me where we meet.  rosebud or sit-n-spin.
i'm kinda partial to rosebud, cause i know where that is, but wherever
everyone else wants to meet is fine with me.  does someone want to take
charge and figure it out?  or should we figure it out tonight in oly?!!
i'm so excited!!  i'll see everyone there!!  yay!

peace, love, and silver sparkly toenails
the girl who's name rhymes with wundara :)  also known as sundarling, the
fire chief, goddess-o-parity, and just plain, sundara

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      songs with soc

hey, kids.  anyone ever wondered what it is about particular songs that
makes amy decide to include socs?  why strange fire and chickenman?  is it
something about the structure?  the lyrical content?  the overall subject?
whimsy?  what?

leading to another question, what songs would we like to see with an soc
that don't have one?  why?

at the risk of answering my own question, (i just thought of this, i
swear!) i think it has something to do with the imagery of the songs.  i
was thinking how the two i'd really like to see with soc are this train
revised and dead man's hill, then i thought about how the imagery in all
four of these songs strings together a series of images abstracted from
each other but connecting to a larger overall theme.  more so than other
ig songs?  who knows?

also would like to see kid fears.

hmm, food for thought in the wild days of nigc!

post happy,
chris ii

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
x-to:         joann melnik <jmelnik@lucent.com>
in-reply-to:  <01bbab88.9eb84900@mtpcs53-184.mt.lucent.com>

on thu, 26 sep 1996, joann melnik wrote:

> last night, after loading up my 5-disc cd player with ig cds,
> i realized that i never use the remote to skip over any songs on
> any of the girls cds. of course, there are songs i like better than
> others, but i never feel the need to actually skip over any of
> the songs (which i do with almost every other artist i listen to).
>
> i'm just curious, do any of you ever skip songs? if so, which ones?


you are on the right track (s), i never ever skip any songs, why would
anyone want to?  i used to skip romeo & juliet because of a strange and
twisted loyalty to the dire straits version which i heard and loved before i
really knew the girls, but no more.

--the lone coyote

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 14:00:24 -0700
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from:         "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
x-to:         joann melnik <jmelnik@lucent.com>

i tend to skip over songs while i am driving...depending on my mood i
don't feel like listening to certain songs, so it varies.  if i am an
upbeat mood i don't want to listen to ballads, if i am quiet or need to
de-stress i don't want to listed to the "rockier" songs.  you know what
i mean?

gosh- i hope i'm not the only person who does this...

-jessi

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>from:  joann melnik[smtp:jmelnik@lucent.com]
>sent:  thursday, september 26, 1996 6:02 am
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       do you ever skip songs?
>
>last night, after loading up my 5-disc cd player with ig cds,
>i realized that i never use the remote to skip over any songs on
>any of the girls cds. of course, there are songs i like better than
>others, but i never feel the need to actually skip over any of
>the songs (which i do with almost every other artist i listen to).
>
>i'm just curious, do any of you ever skip songs? if so, which ones?
>
>joann
>jmelnik@lucent.com
>
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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 16:28:58 -0500
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

i'm afraid to admit that i do skip songs quite often. usually, it has
nothing to do with disliking the song, but rather some songs i can't handle
when i'm in certain moods (this train revised requires a certain mindset
from me; when i'm trying to sleep, listening to an upbeat song isn't
helpful, etc.) so, i'm very sorry to those of you i'm offending by fessing
up to being a song skipper. i still love ig and their songs, honest!

~abigail (who has also been known to regularly set her cd player on random,
and then get mad at the machine when it doesn't play the right song! :)


"i will not be....

a pawn" ~emily saliers

afraid of women" ~dar williams

complacent!!!" ~amy ray

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
in-reply-to:  <c=us%a=_%p=msft%l=red-01-msg-960926210024z-1476@mail.microsoft.com>

skip songs?!?!?!?  hell yeah!  i even erase songs when i can!  i had a
tape of their self-titled one, before i got the cd, and i erased
"history of us" and replaced it with "love of the common people."  i
just hate that song....  i love emily, but, man, that song puts me to
sleep...

and, according to moods, i skip songs a lot.  actually, almost every
time i put them on i skip something: not necessarily because i don't
like it, just cause it's not the mood i'm in, ya know?


renee

* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

"the same sun that warms your heart    "the beautiful ladies walk right by
will suck the good earth dry..."       ya know i never know what to say!"
       "get out the map"                       "shame on you"
        by emily saliers                        by amy ray

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 11:58:35 +0200
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from:         fanny <fanny@eld.se>
organization: eld interaktiv produktion
subject:      new album?

is there a new ig album out or not? the latest album i have is 1200
curfews. please e-mail me and let me know soon - i live in sweden,
scandinavia, and new records from ig have a tendency to be delayed..
thanx!

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date:         wed, 25 sep 1996 23:12:46 -0700
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subject:      dh update oly (nigc)

just another update from the wardrobe cordinator/social director.....how
did i ever get myself in this position? tracy..

tracy got a haircut, and i'm gonna wear my map shirt.


jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net              taking flip

"...and i termed this word cyborg. i remember he said, "oh, that sounds
like a town in denmark."   manfred e clynes

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subject:      re: nigc: jeni's directions to dh in oly

>        and for those interested in the invisible horses.. here is the c/p
>from the directions:
>>then go past the horses, but you  may not be able to see them so maybe skip
>>that.
>        as it turned out, i have now gone to the destination several times
>and have yet to see any horses.
>                  8^/

did i neglect to mention today that the horses actually crossed my road
this morning as i was leaving for work....i guess with all the excitment
over ellen and bad scripts (unrelated) i forgot to tell you... and there
were dogs too.

jeni            saulinoj@olywa.net              taking flip

"...and i termed this word cyborg. i remember he said, "oh, that sounds
like a town in denmark."   manfred e clynes

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from:         deanna light <77light@cua.edu>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

a frequently heard exchange when i'm listening to swamp ophelia:

amy: "all skate; now reverse!"

me:  "she means fast forward."  <punch button>

i also skip "romeo and juliet," "1-2-3," and "tried to be true."  hmm.
this must mean i'm an "emily person" or something.  ;-)

a related question:  are there any songs you'll rewind to listen to *again*
when they're over?  i've done that with "least complicated," "the wood song,"
"love's recovery," and "language or the kiss" at various times in my
appreciation phases.  more evidence for my being an "emily person," i guess!
i've rewound "strange fire," too, though, come to think of it.

ah, idleness.  what i won't to do avoid grading papers.

deanna

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 23:06:21 gmt
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subject:      re: the dead & uncle johns band
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on tue, 24 sep 1996 21:45:13 -0500, m gordon wrote:

>i like both the dead's version of uncle john's band and ig's.
>different though as ig has a tendancy to remember the words to their
>songs.

that wasn't meant as nasty as it sounds, was it ?

just read some cool book, contains quite a lot of gruesome facts about
their variuos sorts of  addiction, but also a lot of love for the
dead:

rock scully, david dalton / living with the dead, isbn 0-316-77712-9

georg
---
got too much of a mind. wouldn't you rather be happy ? - dead kennedys

georg petersen, heintzestrasse 20, d-24582 bordesholm, germany

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 08:58:24 -0500
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

did you know they took gullible out of the dictionary?  the ig really
live in abilene, tx, yep, abilene. it's just a big front that they are
still in decatur or atlanta, or wherever they supposedly live. hehehe, i
wonder if anyone will believe me. oh yeah, i am also emily's cousin.
(well, not emily sailers) wow, i feel so naughty now.

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 15:04:51 -0500
reply-to:     tracy - home home home home <clumber@smtp.prostar.com>
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subject:      nigc: re: abba/indigo-girls collaberation??? hmmm....

kim, you are just nothing but odd....
        love ya babe... but dang are you odd.....
>the abba attire, complete with carefully parted blonde
>wig etc is something i reserve for silly costume parties and halloween kind
>of events...sigh.)
        and that is not what word on the streets was... perhaps you consider
everyday life a costume party? rather a pseudo-quasi-political canuck sort
of statement?  strange that the huge heeled clogs showed the most wear...
and you seemed to have difficulty walking in the nikes...  and that your
kids didn't recognize you until you started singing something about some
disco chick....  and i have to say that you are the only person *i* know of
who has an 8-track player in your car... and the way you yelled at me when i
tried to look through your cd collection... mighty suspicious behavior for a
reformed one...
        besides i did ask your mom and her reply was, "ummm.. just a
second.. kim told me to say something and i wrote it down here someplace...."

tracy <who absolutely (f) intends to keep this harassment up until the
goddess complies with popular demand and joins us for some list-get-together>

ps kim really is waaaaay cool irl... so feel free, all 800+ of you, to
really harass her about getting together with her public. actually, i think
we should just give up and hold a party at her place.

"so your character may be functioning as a lesbian?"
                -- paraphrased from a poor memory after rotflmao, david letterman
interviewing ellen  25 sept 1996

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs

yup.  i sure do.  depends upon several factors.. mood, if i am sick of that
particular song... etc.  chalk me in as a sucker who does skip songs... i
figure that is why cd players are programable... :-)

tracy <hoping jeni brings enough flip to share with everyone tonight>

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subject:      re: songs with soc

howdy!

amy's done socs with with strange fire? when? such as? i must know more! =
i love that song. of course, i really love all the songs. a few of them =
i even adore. :)

feelin' groovy,

suto and jobart
(aka susan and jocie)

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray


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from:   christine talbot[smtp:talbotc@umich.edu]
sent:   thursday, september 26, 1996 2:55 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        songs with soc

hey, kids.  anyone ever wondered what it is about particular songs that
makes amy decide to include socs?  why strange fire and chickenman?  is =
it
something about the structure?  the lyrical content?  the overall =
subject?
whimsy?  what?

leading to another question, what songs would we like to see with an soc
that don't have one?  why?

at the risk of answering my own question, (i just thought of this, i
swear!) i think it has something to do with the imagery of the songs.  i
was thinking how the two i'd really like to see with soc are this train
revised and dead man's hill, then i thought about how the imagery in all
four of these songs strings together a series of images abstracted from
each other but connecting to a larger overall theme.  more so than other
ig songs?  who knows?

also would like to see kid fears.

hmm, food for thought in the wild days of nigc!

post happy,
chris ii

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reply-to:     sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

okay,  i admit it, sometimes i skip songs on the cd's, although this
doesn't happen as much anymore, cause i've been listening to boots
continously for about the last 4 months.  here's my explanation. sometimes,
i just really want to hear a certain song, cause either i have it in my
head, or i relates to how i'm feeling, or something i'm going through.  and
i don't want to wait, i want to hear it now!  but then what usually
happens, is that i listen to the song, then i think, oh skipped a great
song, i have to listen to that, and then i do it again, and i end up
listening to the entire cd anyway.  also,  sometimes, i put 1200 curfews in
on random.  it makes it fun and exciting never knowing what the next song
is gonna be, almost like a concert.

peace, love, and silver sparkly toenails
the girl who's name rhymes with wundara :)  also known as sundarling, the
fire chief, goddess-o-parity, and just plain, sundara

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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from:         "jenn. brown" <jennb@owlnet.rice.edu>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
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i almost always skip touch me fall if i am near the cd player when it
comes on... galileo, power of two, southland, and bury my heart (my
most recent obsession :) ) get frequently repeated, along with the ones
mentioned. i also will fast forward through other songs just to get
to them.

jenn.


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subject:      re: fav les films - nigc
x-cc:         mar2727@aol.com

okay i felt the need to comment again regarding the latest rash of discusson
regarding les films:

- entre nous - still recomending it, still loved it, and yes its still at the
top of my list.  re: the physicality...did anyone else (who didn't read the
book) think ruth and idgie (fried green tomatos...) were lovers?  do we have
to see the main characters in bed to know they are lesbians?

- desert hearts - is yes still one of the best and one of my all time favs.

- go fish - i liked it, sorry i like films which are from a different
perspective.

- i've heard the mermaids singing - not a les film (or may sarton but if you
read her  and really love art - 2 dimensional or the written word - you'll
get it) a wonderful commentary on the perception of art in our society and my
all time favorite film.  there are lesbian characters but amazingly they are
treated as if they are just human.

- when night is falling - same director as i've heard the mermaids.....she's
canadian, really great and the film is too.

- bar girls - 10 minutes was all i saw.  comment withheld.

- personal best - very accurate film about sport in its time.... lousy film
about a lesbian relationship.

- the increadibly true story.... - nicely done, fun.

- claire - i commented earlier... okay how many of you know claire was
originally concieved as a documentary?

- lianna - okay i'm really dating myself (a tip of my hat to whomever's
girlfriend was worried about remembering personal best) but its gonna occur
to someone that this film (yes another coming out story) was done many years
ago.  it may have been the first lesbian film i ever saw.  things have
changed a lot over the years but i still remember a  love sceen with the only
sound a woman whispering the same phrase over and over in french.

- can't remember the title of a film i saw about a les stand up commedian
this summer... i wouldn't recommend it.

how about some classics... the children's hour for example or documentarys...
anyone remember one in ten?  okay way more than my 2 cents. i've heard a
rumor someone is finally making a film of ruby fruit jungle...anyone else
hear the same?  how did this get started anyhow?  what list is this?

michelle

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from:         ann m labeck <aml@scn.org>
subject:      ani difranco in seattle (again) nigc

hey, i hadn't seen anything about this on the list, so i thought
i'd post the info.!

tickets went on sale about 2 weeks ago for ani's show in seattle
on oct. 31 (that's right, halloween!).  ticketmonster is
sellin' 'em.  i think that the venue is the paramount theater
(comin' up in the world!).

ann

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: cover me (slight tori amos content)
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on wed, 25 sep 1996, alec heller wrote:

> stroke of genius...  i'm sitting here listening to little earthquakes and
> wondering whether anyone else notices that the opening line in the song
> "silent all these years" (the words are: "excuse me but can i be you for a
> while") sounds exactly like the beggining of zep's "going to california."
> i know she cover's zep live a bit, and she did thank you on the crucify
> single, but whatever...  i just noticed...  sorry for the bandwidth...

well led zep were not averse to doing this themselves, although they usually
ripped off traditional songs rather than other people's compositions.   for
instance, their song "black mountain side" is directly ripped off a
traditional song called "black water side" which has been done by sandy
denny, anne briggs and bert jansch and probably countless others.   they
didn't put trad. arr., they credited it directly to themselves, and as you
can imagine all the traditional musicians were incensed.   also, another of
their songs was originally credited to "anne bredon / jimmy page / robert
plant" (i can't remember the name of the song).   anne bredon was a little-
known 50s folk artist, and was unaware of the led zep cover until her son
asked her about 10 years ago why she was strumming "a led zep song".   i
think she sued them, but i don't know what the outcome was.   so i think led
zep can cope with this minor derivation from their lyrics by someone who is a
great admirer (she even performed with robert plant on the tribute album,
encomium).

mat

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

i have to come clean - i do....  skip....  occasionally.  there, i've said it.
i'm surprised how many of you mentioned skipping romeo & juliet.  i guess i
am fortunate that i heard the ig version first, and fell in love with it.
i'm also an amy person, so there ya go.  when i listen to the cds in order,
i will pretty much always skip hey jesus, airplane, this train and pushing
the needle..   its not that i hate those or anything, but i'm usually too
impatient to get to the ones next (ok, except for this train which is too
depressing).  although i'm starting to be ok with airplane.

for what its worth,
betsy

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

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on wed, 25 sep 1996, sheri e. allen wrote:

> btw, they played the new shawn colvin song, get out of this house and it
> sounds pretty cool.  can't wait til oct. 1st....  also heard warren zevon
> covering her tenderness on the block.  as long as i am on the subject of

warren zevon (and jackson browne) *wrote* tenderness on the block (in the
late 70s i think).

mat

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subject:      re[2]: nigc--rolling...??

>are you sure they were rolling chickens???  or was it flying fish...!!
>                          ha!
>stacy.
>>
i dunno... i was told it was flying sheep!

     hmmmm...i could have sworn it was flipping llamas :):):):)
     kira

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subject:      re: packaging

>i just read deb's repost of the honor review (thanks deb) and the
>reviewer made a mention of how no plastic was used in the packagaing.
>
>while i respect the environmental thought here, does anyone like the
>cardboard packaging?  i imagine what they are describing for honor is
>the same sort of thing they used on 12cc.  i hated it.  cd's kept
>falling on the floor, kept rubbing the palying surface whenever they
>were moved.  my 12cc disc 1 is no plonger playable on some tracks.
>
>i guess i like jewel boxes.  yeah they are plastic, but its not like
>i'm piling them up in landfills.  personally for a cd case i want
>something to last 1000 years!
>
>now if they made the jewel boxes out of recycled material, that would
>be way cool =)
>
>                                -- chris
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        i completely agree with you chris!!!   i also have some tracks from
1200 that are no longer playable...sure, the cardboard makes you feel
better, but the plastic is so darn durable!!!
        jen

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subject:      i can't ever think of a good subject...

hiall,
i guess that i am partly a song skipper and partly not.  i only skipped
songs when i first got each album but now i have grown attached to all of
them and listen to every song on a cd, be it straight through or random.  i
have to admit that i do like certain songs when i am in certain moods and
often times i find myself listening to songs three or four times in a row.
can somebody tell me what soc stands for?  i've tried to figure it out, but
i can't.  i know i'm gonna feel brain-dead when i find out.
keep on groovin',
ryan
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
"you have to laugh at
yourself because you'd cry
your eyes out if you didn't"
             e.  saliers
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      re: songs with soc
x-to:         susan tomlinson <teddie@telepath.com>
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woah, holy cow, 350 pp. of holocaust is just too much to deal with in one
day!  what the hell was i thinking?  not strange fire, but touch me fall!
those two are so *not* related, other than being amy songs.   there is
*not*, i repeat, *not* a strange fire soc that i know of.  sorry, susan,
to rain on your parade, but hey, you don't bring me flowers anymore.
(does anyone get the obtuse barbra streisand reference?  in the immortal
words of half the gay men alive, don't f*ck with barbra!  i will not be
flamed!)

oh, it's too late, baby, now it's too late!
chris ii, again.  somebody shut that damn girl up!

on thu, 26 sep 1996, susan tomlinson wrote:

> howdy!
>
> amy's done socs with with strange fire? when? such as? i must know more! i love that song. of course, i really love all the songs. a few of them i even adore. :)
>
> feelin' groovy,
>
> suto and jobart
> (aka susan and jocie)
>
> " me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
> keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray
>
>
> ----------
> from:   christine talbot[smtp:talbotc@umich.edu]
> sent:   thursday, september 26, 1996 2:55 pm
> to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
> subject:        songs with soc
>
> hey, kids.  anyone ever wondered what it is about particular songs that
> makes amy decide to include socs?  why strange fire and chickenman?  is it
> something about the structure?  the lyrical content?  the overall subject?
> whimsy?  what?
>
> leading to another question, what songs would we like to see with an soc
> that don't have one?  why?
>
> at the risk of answering my own question, (i just thought of this, i
> swear!) i think it has something to do with the imagery of the songs.  i
> was thinking how the two i'd really like to see with soc are this train
> revised and dead man's hill, then i thought about how the imagery in all
> four of these songs strings together a series of images abstracted from
> each other but connecting to a larger overall theme.  more so than other
> ig songs?  who knows?
>
> also would like to see kid fears.
>
> hmm, food for thought in the wild days of nigc!
>
> post happy,
> chris ii
>
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subject:      just kidding

for all of those who didn't realize we were kidding about meeting the
indigo girls and got very angry- we are so sorry to kid about such a
sacred situation.  please, just stop wasting your time sending hate
mail!

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subject:      re: peter, paul and mary?
x-to:         forrest brooks <brooksal@flash.net>
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well, i'm only 29 and i know who pp&m are. i was raised on their music.
and my folks were surprised for some reason when i started listening to
joan baez.  go figure.

                                                tuesday's child


on tue, 24 sep 1996, forrest brooks wrote:

> dear ig tribe,
>
> peter, paul and mary who?  i'm kidding.  i'm 43 and i know perfectly
> well who pp&m are.  guess this brings the "mean" age of the list up a
> notch or two, eh?
>
> actually, the first time i heard the indigo girls they reminded me of
> pp&m.  folk.  comes around, goes around.  you are a rabid lot.  i'm
> glad.
>
> take care
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subject:      re: nigc_ dh, sit and spin
x-to:         tracy - home home home home <clumber@smtp.prostar.com>
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tracy!!!

ptttthhhttt!  i swear that place doesn't exist (just like sequim...sorry
"wundara" but it isn't a real place coz i can't find it!! ) <g>  there is
no rosebud so let's not meet there....

s&s at, uh, an hour before whatever time the show starts...
sound good?

on thu, 26 sep 1996, tracy - home home home home wrote:

> wow - i feel so... so... so recognized.. i obviously post too much...
>
> >  tracy, i
> >have your description & as long as you're wearing the t-shirt could
> >probably pick you out of a crowd.  we don't have our shirts yet but are a
> >mid-30-ish typical granola-dyke couple.  maybe a little older than the
> >rest of the crowd but otherwise pretty generic, so we'll just look for
> >the list t-shirts.  unless we read of any meeting place before hand.
> >sit&spin is downtown, 2219 4th avenue, not exactly the gay ghetto & i
> >don't know of any particularly gay-friendly establishments in the
> >immediate area.  on capitol hill, there's the rosebud cafe, or the
> >bauhaus coffee house. or we just all get to the sit&spin early, that
> >sounds easier....  anyhow, we'll look for you, & feel free to email
> >beforehand.
>
>         personally i would vote for arriving at the spin early??  anyone?
> anyone?  see.. some list members whose names may rhyme with wundara and
> bwendigo seem to have a problem with the rosebud cafe... ahem....  anyhow...
>
> thanks for the directions!!!  jeni is not only the wardrobe coordinator, but
> the green dog/dyke mobile navigator as well.. get that jeni?
>
> tracy
>
> "isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
>         the things we find to fall in love..."
>                 -- "before the fall"
>                         taylor williams
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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
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on thu, 26 sep 1996, renee l grebe wrote:

> skip songs?!?!?!?  hell yeah!  i even erase songs when i can!  i had a
> tape of their self-titled one, before i got the cd, and i erased
> "history of us" and replaced it with "love of the common people."  i
> just hate that song....  i love emily, but, man, that song puts me to
> sleep...

is "love of the common people" an indigo girls original or is it a cover?


peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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subject:      re: abba/indigo-girls collaberation??? hmmm....
x-to:         "kim : goddess in her own reality:)" <rcn@prcn.org>
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well, i guess since i've been brought up so often lately, i can't lurk
here anymore...

i am really agnetha, not gwendigo like y'all thought.  and yes, amy
(er..gregg) and emily (err..deb?) and i are getting my old band back
together for a jam and album.  we're thinking about combining "nashville"
and "waterloo" into a medly/compilation piece.  boy, you ig fans find out
everything...

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it's great to learn! coz knowledge is power!"--schoolhouse rock

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hell, i skip over every song. indigo girls suck!
ben


...just kidding..or am i?

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

hmmm...the only ig song i've ever skipped is "airplane", because the =
woooooaaaahhhoooo background singers tend to grate on my somewhat =
fragile nerves...

...by the way, i got no curfews today...thanks sue....

see ya'll at the seattle d.h. show!

...dancing in the mind...
greta

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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!
x-to:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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yeah, they actually went to tesc (the evergreen state college) and majored
in nothing...em's dad is really the director of campus ministries at
spu...
but i thought this was common knowledge?

on thu, 26 sep 1996, hsu amber r. batson wrote:

> did you know they took gullible out of the dictionary?  the ig really
> live in abilene, tx, yep, abilene. it's just a big front that they are
> still in decatur or atlanta, or wherever they supposedly live. hehehe, i
> wonder if anyone will believe me. oh yeah, i am also emily's cousin.
> (well, not emily sailers) wow, i feel so naughty now.
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: fav les films - nigc
x-to:         ginyvita@aol.com
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on thu, 26 sep 1996 ginyvita@aol.com wrote:

> - entre nous - still recomending it, still loved it, and yes its still at the
> top of my list.  re: the physicality...did anyone else (who didn't read the
> book) think ruth and idgie (fried green tomatos...) were lovers?  do we have
> to see the main characters in bed to know they are lesbians?

yes, i definitely think ruth & idgie were lovers.  my mom says it's more
obvious in the book....but i'm a college student, i don't read!!!!
(kidding)
>
> - personal best - very accurate film about sport in its time.... lousy film
> about a lesbian relationship.

i don't think you're necessarily dating yourself if you remember this
movie...i remember it vaguely...i think i watched it with my mom & her
girlfriend when i was 9.....  =)

the lone coyote

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 19:29:49 -0500
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subject:      hte cap up for grabs

hey y'all,

well, weird circumstances have landed me in possession of a brand spanking
new, never worn, very groovy honor the earth cap that i didn't actually
purchase (see, i _did_ purchase one, but they mistakenly sent me two, but
only charged me for one, but told me to go ahead and keep it).  and i feel a
little bad about this, seeing as how they really shouldn't be wasting their
precious hard earned funds on sending free hats to folks.  so seeing as how
i can only wear one hat at a time (yes, contrary to many rumors, i _do_ only
have one head....so maybe it's a little big, it's still only one) i've
decided to see if anyone on the list wants it.  here's what i'm offering.
i'll pay to ship it to you, if you pledge to send a donation of at least the
price of the hat (15$) to the hte campaign (i'll send you the donation
evelope they sent me).  i think it's a good deal (you save s&h charges), a
really worthy cause, and it's a really cool hat to boot.  if you have the
'honor' cd, there's a picture of it with the merchandise card.  if you
don't, here's what it looks like:  beige/light tan cap body with a navy blue
rim & cloth strap.  on the front it's got kokopelli in red (kokopelli is a
figure in native american art, i believe, and is a small man-figure playing
a flute/pipe....)  and on the back it says "honor the earth" in navy.  it's
made out of really nice, heavy duty, _soft_ fabric (and i do mean soft....if
you're pet deprived, this hat can function nicely as something to stroke and
love and pet when you get lonely.......ahem.... ;)  and will make you look
most cool and spiffy.  and your money is going to a good cause.  what more
could you want?  :)  let me know if you're interested, i'm basically gonna
give it to whoever writes me first (and please, y'all, only write if you're
serious about sending the donation.  i really do want them to get the money
for their hat, as little as it is, cause every bit helps....and you'd be on
your *honor* to send it in).  sorry it got so long-winded, guess i've been
storing up or somethin.  take care y'all, have a good weekend.....

peace,
cylinda
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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 17:43:00 -0700
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subject:      re: i can't ever think of a good subject...
x-to:         ryan <ryan@ou.edu>
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on thu, 26 sep 1996, ryan wrote:

> can somebody tell me what soc stands for?  i've tried to figure it out, but
> i can't.  i know i'm gonna feel brain-dead when i find out.
> keep on groovin',
> ryan

thank you for having the guts to ask first, ryan.  i've been wondering
that same thing for the past 30 messages.  of course, we could probably
look it up on the faq list but who has the time to download that after
reading 30 messages?  =)

the lone coyote

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subject:      re: a&e smoking etc.
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on wed, 25 sep 1996, m gordon wrote:

> naz:
>
> amen to your comments about stories involving a&e's activities.
> tough line to walk isnt it?
>
> inquiring minds want to know, but dammit, emotional discipline is so
> damn hard.
>
> also....<<<oh, before i go... i heard that amy likes to roll her own
> chickens..>>>>>>
>
> isn't amy a vegetarian?  wouldn't she, then, roll her own asparagus?

        actually, wouldn't rice and beans be more appropriate?

                                                tuesday's child


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subject:      lewiston show

hi y'all!!

    i'm searching for two people that i met at the artpark, lewiston
indigo girls show in august.  they were from rochester, n.y. and they
waited after the show with my friend and i to meet amy and emily at
their hotel.  if you are out there, please write!!!!!  thanks a
bunch!!

-bethany
fleiscbe@sbu.edu

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subject:      soc

        hi y'all...since there were a couple of queries about what soc
stands for...stream of consciousness...as in the great ramblings amy digs
into during the middle of chickenman while on tour...and every once in
awhile, she throws one into touch me fall...
        peace   jen

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from:         "hsu beth j. smith" <bjsmith@hsutx.edu>
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subject:      wrong return address
x-to:         sfriedm@emory.edu

oops, i used the wrong return address - my roomate's address, i forgot
to change it when when i logged on. don"t email her, she's never heard
of ig. in other words, she's a freak.

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subject:      re: astrological poll?
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well, if you're volunteering, i'm an aries.

                                                tuesday's child

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subject:      t-shirt update

hi gang...i took a break today from my vigil for teddy to call the printer.
the t-shirts were printed this afternoon and they will be shipped to me
tomorrow. i expect to get them on monday. i'll package them up and ship
them out as fast as i can. i would imagine that some of you will start
seeing them on wednesday. and for the record, all the orders are in --
thanks!

deb

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subject:      skipping...(my class and running from school)

yes, i have to admit it i do skip.  (unfortunately so does 1200c disc 2
whether i want it to or not)  i only do this, though, when i just hafta
hear that song.  i listen to music most at work (yeah i know that's a
different thread, tough.  ;p  ) and sometimes i'll have all of my ig
tapes and cd's out on my desk and i'll just shuffle back and forth
through stuff as the whim strikes me.
as for which songs i skip to most.  ghost, mystery, hand me downs,
everbody's waiting, don't give that girl a gun, touch me fall, southland
in the springtime, watershed, crazy game, thin line, tangled up in blue,
this train revised (1200c only, love the jacob's ladder intro), midnight
train to georgia, down by the river, love will come to you.  wow, that's
a pretty long list.  pretty evenly dispersed between a & e, too.  hmmm.
guess that makes me an ig person ;).

                                                tuesday's child

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subject:      nigc- tonight's eclipse

anyone watching the eclipse?
jazz

-yet when it became extablished, one rather missed the sense of its being a
relief and a respite...
-virginia woolf upon witness the total eclipse of the sun in 1927

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subject:      nigc -- mwmf

hi all.  could someone tell me where i can get more info on the michigan
womyn's music festival?  thanks!

                                                tuesday's child

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and i'm a libra

the lone coyote

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subject:      nigc: anyone in georgia?

howdy!

sorry to waste the space on this nigc, but woooo-hooooo!

we need lots of info on georgia, particularly the atlanta and =
macon/middle georgia region.

in two weeks, my gf and i will have been with the same company for five =
years. it's a medium-sized, very conservative-minded firm. it's been a =
real growing experience for us as a lesbian couple to work there and =
adapt to being out there despite our best intentions to retain a sense =
of privacy. anyhoo, the last couple of months have been particularly =
trying and we were starting to think about moving on. we were =
considering a move out-of-state, since jocie has lived in oklahoma all =
her life. we started checking around and the management of our company =
got wind of our plans. a kindly boss spoke with me and told me i should =
be up front with the owner of the company and tell him how we felt and =
see what he had to offer. i grudgingly obliged and i am so glad i did!

to make a long story short, (too late says jocie) (old joke says me) we =
are being transferred to our company's georgia facility at the end of =
the year! the office is in a city/town? called macon, which is an hour =
or two south of atlanta. atlanta.....i have heard of this atlanta! ;)

jocie and i are going to visit the area at thanksgiving and hope to =
scope out a place to live at that time. we are set to be moved the day =
after christmas, a lovely present, indeed! the company is giving us all =
sorts of info on the area. now, this is where you folks in the atlanta =
and middle georgia area come in. (btw, do y'all really call it middle =
georgia down there? the macon area, i mean?) we want to know as much as =
possible about our new state and region before we go on our thanksgiving =
reconnaissance mission.

we can probably find a book or web site to tell us the state tree, bird =
and so on, and our bosses keep telling us about all the churches and =
bar-b-que joints in macon (pity, we are strict vegetarians! :) ) y'all =
have the true info - what are the neat shops? where can you get a good =
veggie burger? where do two strangers go for a beer and some cool music? =
are there notoriously bad places to not live, nor visit. we have been =
told - by the bosses again - that we must live in north macon, if we =
choose to live in town. otherwise, north of macon. that sounds good to =
us....north of macon, like an hour maybe? but are there any towns =
between? what is the area south of atlanta like? good, bad, scary? what =
is the speed limit on i-75? etcetera, my friends! we are literally =
starved for info and the bosses have us working dawn to dusk training =
our replacements, so we get no real info save from them. help us. =
please, in the name of all that is good, give us the skinny! :)

thanks a million in advance!

peace,

susan and jocelyn

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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subject:      the eclipse! yay! (nigc

yeah, i'm watching the eclipse!  and i bet all my other physics major
friends are looking at it through out 14 inch refracting telescope right
now!  i gotta go to bed, though; have 8:00 microbiology.  yick.

well, for a little igc, "eclipse" sounds like a song title they might think
of....

whatever.

i am tired and worn out and hung over from my prozac.

mary

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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

in a message dated 96-09-26 14:18:45 edt, jmelnik@lucent.com (joann melnik)
writes:

>
>> hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
>> they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  emily
>> lives right around the corner from emory (where we go) so she invited us
>> to go jogging with her every week.  so for the past five weeks, we have
>> been keeping in touch with her every so often.  she even came over and
>> heard us play guitar and sing songs that we have composed.  so top that,
>> you suckers!

oh, and by the way, suckers, we are 10 years old!

or at least we are acting like it!

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs

one word..."airplane"

nuff said,
- jen hall

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subject:      re: chickenman on 1200
x-to:         mmgst11+@pitt.edu

>i kinda figured that the girls chose to *not* choose a version
of "chickenman" with a soc in it b/c they didn't want one soc >becoming
*the* soc.  i think that's the whole point.  the soc's contain >mostly the
same info., but each is unique.  and us go-heads would >memorize it and be
impartial to other soc's, maybe.  just a thought.
>>
i think you're probably right.  during the recent nyc show, i was right up
against the stage, so i saw amy grin during closer to fine when the crowd
yelled "prostrate!" like in the 1200cc version.  she just grinned and
grinned.  i guess everyone had just become so used to it...it would have lost
it's impact if she had done it.
for what it's worth,
stephen

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subject:      valujet is back in the air! watch your rooftops! (sigc)

--- you wrote:
hmmm...the only ig song i've ever skipped is "airplane", because the =
woooooaaaahhhoooo background singers tend to grate on my somewhat =
fragile nerves...
--- end of quoted material ---
wow....nutty stuff...i adore airplane, its one of my fave emily songs. i turn
it up and sing really loud in my car....
'great thing to read bfeore a treeeeeeiiiiiiiippppppp"..... am i the only one?

i luv y'all for makin me always see the other side!!!

susywoozywuzzabear

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

i must admit that i do occasionally skip songs, but as others have written,
what i skip depends on my mood. 1 2 3 is skipped nearly every time. sorry
guys. i just have to be in an odd mood to hear that. i don't know why. guess
i'm just odd.

>a related question:  are there any songs you'll rewind to listen to *again*
>when they're over?  i've done that with "least complicated," "the wood song,"
>"love's recovery," and "language or the kiss" at various times in my
>appreciation phases.  more evidence for my being an "emily person," i guess!
>i've rewound "strange fire," too, though, come to think of it.

being an emily person myself, and absolutely loving the aforementioned (sp?)
songs, i can say i've done this quite often. i've even been known to set my
cd player on repeat and listen to the same song 3 or 4 times. i do this to
some of amy's stuff as well, but i must say that most of the time, it's emily.

jendy

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subject:      nigc: eclipse here too!

wow, i got to see the eclipse too here in pennsylvania, for about10
mintues, before the clouds rolled in and covered everything up.  really
really cool.  well worth it...


renee

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subject:      re: abba/indigo-girls collaberation??? hmmm....

>ps kim really is waaaaay cool irl... so feel free, all 800+ of you, to
>really harass her about getting together with her public. actually, i
>think
>we should just give up and hold a party at her place.


ohh.  party at kim's place!!!!  i'll bring my abba records (you kids do
know what 'records' are...right?) and clogs!!

- jen hall

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jen hall wrote:
>
> one word..."airplane"
>

okay, i admit it - four words... "midnight train to georgia"

(go ahead, stone me...)

cyndi

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date:         thu, 26 sep 1996 22:38:47 -0500
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subject:      airplane bashing :(

awwww, c'mon guys! i can't possibly be the only one who loves this song, can i!?
maybe it's that i'm not too fond of flying, or that i *love* the roches, and
couldn't figure out what was familier about airplane til i checked out who
the background singers were!
hey, here's a random yet somehow related thought! imagine how cool it must
be for amy and emily who were roches fans growing up and used to cover their
songs to have them singing backup for their cd! oh, and don't you love what
those sisters do for backup on virginia woolf and reuninon?!

here's a present for any of you in need of an annoying song to run through
your head: "weeee are maggie and terre and suzzy...!" :)

~abigail (um, sorry bout that guys, i'm better now :)
"i will not be....

a pawn" ~emily saliers

afraid of women" ~dar williams

complacent!!!" ~amy ray

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> >a related question:  are there any songs you'll rewind to listen to *again*
> >when they're over?

on my way home from work, it takes one playing of "three hits" and two
playings of "galileo" to get to my driveway.  sometimes i vary things a
bit and play "three hits" twice and "galileo" only once -- but they are
great songs to sing along with.  i'm certain the people in the cars near
me think i'm nuts!  oh well, i've been called worse...

cyndi

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in a message dated 96-09-26 23:19:46 edt, jenhall@juno.com (jen hall) writes:

>one word..."airplane"
>
>nuff said,
> - jen hall

i love airplane!!! it is a groovin' song. honest! i really, really, like it.

-margot

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subject:      i do wanna talk about it

howdy all!

on the philadelphia soundtrack, i love the ig song, (i don't wanna talk =
about it), but i have an annoying problem. being the anal retentive =
kinda gal that i am, i wanted to know who the other musicians were on =
the ig track, but the liner notes do not list any of the other =
musicians/singers on any of the tracks. annoying monkey heads!!

so, i was wondering if any of you really cool people might help me out. =
keep in mind, i am guessing with my untrained ear at the other =
instruments, and any one who could fill in the blanks would get a big =
bucket of gratitude from me! btw, is that a 12-string that amy is =
playing, or am i totally tripping? so, does anyone know who did the =
following:

percussion:
synth/melodica/organ type sound:
backing vocals (distinct male voice here??):
bass:
strings - violin:
cello:
mandolin (?):

i could make guesses on this stuff, but i really have some sort of weird =
need to know the actual facts! thanks for the help.

peace,
jocie

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hi!  i am looking for an old friend from atlanta named lauri white.  if you
are out there, lauri, or if somebody knows her whereabouts, could you e-mail
me?  i miss you and want to hear what's been going on in your life!

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on thu, 26 sep 1996, cyndi johnson wrote:

> jen hall wrote:
> >
> > one word..."airplane"
> >
>
> okay, i admit it - four words... "midnight train to georgia"
>
> (go ahead, stone me...)
>
> cyndi
>
you know at first, i hated airplane.  i just kept skipping it (so,
yup-ti-doo, i'm known to skip, too) and thinking what the hell were they
thinking by putting those annoying background singers in there?  but,
then, i stopped skipping it, especially when i was just too lazy to push
the button on the remote, and gradually it just grew on me, and i can't
say that i love it, but yeah, i...like it.
and not midnight train to georgia!  man, gladys knight and the pips kick
ass!
oh well, different people, different views...

veronica


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        on a kind of a telephone line through time
        the voice at the other end comes like a long-lost friend

                                        -- emily saliers
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subject:      airplane

hey y'all! i must defend airplane. i love that song! i can relate to it as
well as i can to any of the others. i have a major fear of flying and when i
have to fly, i play that song over and over again. it's just so upbeat
sounding and is somehow really comforting when i'm up on an airplane....

:)

jendy

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sorry to post to the list, but:  linda napikoski, please send me an e-mail if
you want information about my cd - i sent you a message, but it bounced
back!

thanks - m.k. menard
mkm@rio.com

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hey y'all--wanted to say that when i got the first message from all the
way up at yale about the eclipse that i felt this awesome sense of
one-earth-ness... wow :)

(formerly) basking in the red glow of our collective shadow,
jenn.

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i can't believe so many people dislike that song! my fave part is "i'll
be makin' a dee-al..."

even my hometown neighbor whose tastes run toward barry manilow (!)
thinks it totally epitomizes her intense fear of flying.

jenn.


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subject:      nigc- christine kane

hey ev'ryone-
        i thought i saw a post about her a while back...
well, she's playing here at elon college, nc on oct. 3 at 9:00.  i'm not
sure how much tickets are yet, but i can find out if anyone's interested...
i go here, so i probably get in for free (neener neener- just kidding)
if anyone from the triad/piedmont area wants to go, let me know...  you
can crash with me (i just need to check with my rommate first) or maybe we
could hang out for a while.  it's in our "octagon cafe", so it's a real
cool, relaxed, intimate setting.  anyone intersted drop me an e-mail...

-mandy

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subject:      nigc- ellenish

ill try not to waste too much bandwidth. i've been into this list for months, reading,
and enjoying everyday- rarely posting. i just wanted to let y'all know that i found it
rather endearing that when refering to my post, karrie refered to me as "she." now, my
handle and such do not actually give any real gender cues. but i suppose that i've been
assumed "he" so many times in my life- that its nice to be assumed a she. i'm sure this
may have to do with the general mindset/ambiance of this list. ( or my interest in
ellen?) anyhow, its a nice touch... i'll take my babble elsewhere now...
goddess forbid i should spout off more than 20 words for my 5+ months on this list...
;) m

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subject:      airplane

susan b. marine wrote:

>wow....nutty stuff...i adore airplane, its one of my fave emily songs.
>i turn it up and sing really loud in my car....
>'great thing to read bfeore a treeeeeeiiiiiiiippppppp"..... am i the
>only one?

nope, you're not the only one susan b., i'm right there with you.

steve

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subject:      re: nigc- tonight's eclipse

on 9/26/96 9:03 pm, jasmine wrote:

>>anyone watching the eclipse?<<

here in luuuuseeana (which is cooler, weatherwise, now... not very hellish
anymore, claire... yea!!  gotta love autumn!!), it was very visible and
gorgeous!!  i was near a building at my university, watching it with my cousin,
and everyone kept looking at us to see what we were staring at.  then when they
saw that it was the moon, they looked at us like we were crazy.  it was
waaaaayyyy funny!!  what can i say, i love nature.  it seems awkward to me that
some people don't even notice the beauty that's right before their eyes.
whatever... ; )

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subject:      wounded knee

just had a "repeat button" occurence tonight on my way accross the narrows
bridge (tacoma, wa) as i struggled to stay between the lines of the lane and
at the same time watch the moon in all of it's glory with a majestic sunset
behind me....man....it was a spectacular night here in god's country...the
song? you ask?  from the honor1 cd, wounded knee by reversing hour on which
amy does background!  i love that song!! repeat... i love that song!!

playing it again, stacy  (from tacoma)

(oh, i'll be at the sit and spin saturday!! see ya)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        "i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty
            and witty
                and....hey!!!"

        ellen degeneres at the bathroom mirror
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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subject:      songs i play over and over and...

hmmm...are there any songs i rewind and listen to over and over?  oh my goodness,
i thought for a minute i might be the only one who has consistently done this
for years.  the one i just can't get enough of is "down by the river."  man, oh
man!!!!!!!  i'm just transported to another place when i listen to that
song.  powerful stuff.  it still has an effect on me almost a year after 1200c
was released.  "tangled up in blue" is another one.  of course, those aren't
their own songs, but i personally prefer their versions and i feel like they've
really added on what neil young and bob dylan built in their original versions.
"hand me downs" is another one that gets worn out (both in the car and on the
cd player at home).  when i first bought strange fire, i couldn't quit playing
"make it easier" (luv to harmonize with that one)(g)    i"m sure there are many
more, but those are the first ones to come to mind.  the only one i *skip*
without fail is "history of us."

my $0.02!

joan :-d

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subject:      nigc--lunar eclipse

i'm on the olympic peninsula, and watched the eclipse from the beach.  what an amazing color....not to be duplicated.
...by the way, did anyone mistake the moon for a rollercoaster tonight?  --those of ya'll who were at bumbershoot will get that--


...exiting from the confines of the mind and dancing in the moonlight...
greta

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subject:      nigc:  shawn colvin

hi everybody!

for those of you who have heard shawn colvin's new song, "get out of this
house," what do you think??  it doesn't really sound like shawn colvin to me for
some reason.  i'm not sure why.  i think it is because it has more of a pop
sound than some of her other songs.  hmm... someone mentioned she had just went
through a divorce... you'd never guess it from this song!  *grin*  (i.e., "you
act like a baby, you talk like a fool, get out of this house... go back to your
mamma, go back to high school, get out of this house...).

however, i love the new one "sunny came home" (the 2nd track on the promotional
tape -- thanks larin! --> i'll get your tape out asap!).  it is pretty awesome
imho!!  can't wait to hear the entire cd!

peace and eclipses...
tamara

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on thu, 26 sep 1996, tuesday's child wrote:

> well, if you're volunteering, i'm an aries.
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i'm an aries too.... :)

->amy

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on thu, 26 sep 1996, margot laidacker wrote:

> in a message dated 96-09-26 23:19:46 edt, jenhall@juno.com (jen hall) writes:
>
> >one word..."airplane"
> >
> >nuff said,
> > - jen hall
>
>  i love airplane!!! it is a groovin' song. honest! i really, really, like it.
>
> -margot

   i love airplane too!  it's soooo funny.  how can you not like it? :)

   ->amy

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subject:      dead & uncle john's band

on tue, 24 sep 1996 21:45:13 -0500, m gordon wrote:

>i like both the dead's version of uncle john's band and ig's.
>different though as ig has a tendancy to remember the words to
their
>songs.

georg's reply...

>>>>that wasn't meant as nasty as it sounds, was it ?<<<<<<

i wasnt meaning to be nasty; rather accurate.  thru the course of
their long, strange trip, the dead amazed many of their faithful with
their musical honesty & talent.  many great musicians could barely
keep up with them.  honestly, though, jerry (& the gang) were often
so strung out that they did, indeed, forget the words to their songs.
remember, jerry wasn't the first to go via drugs.  remember brent
mydland?

melissa

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subject:      re: airplane bashing :(

> from:          abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>


> awwww, c'mon guys! i can't possibly be the only one who loves this song, can i!?
> maybe it's that i'm not too fond of flying, or that i *love* the roches, and
> couldn't figure out what was familier about airplane til i checked out who
> the background singers were!

i'll back you up on this one- i love the layers of harmonies, and
especially all the melody-writing rules that are broken ( did anyone else
here do music theory and get told that "this is how you write a
melody/harmony/etc? ).  i love it when all the theory i learned in
music goes out the window and ends up so great (another good example
is "the dry cleaner from des moines" by joni mitchell).

kirsten in van

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subject:      best non-lyric quotes

i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!  for instance, one good quote
would be:

"oh, is that the moon?  i thought it was a rollercoaster!" --emily


those girls can be such a hoot!  any takers on this thread??

--reggi
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subject:      re: nigc -- mwmf
x-to:         tuesday's child <dc3545@cnsvax.albany.edu>

howdy t.c., i'm an aries too.  and i knew if i looked hard enough i'd find
where i put the michigan info lost in the moving mess.  no the mess isn't
moving, we just did & everything's a mess.  anyhow, you asked but i'll
post this to the list in case anyone else wants to know:

the mwmf phone number is: (616) 757-4766; don't know if it's a year-round
number or not.
or send a sase to:  wwtmc; p.o. box 22; walhalla, mi; 49458
also found a website w/ this info & listing '96 performers, at:
http://glbnet.com/events/mich_womyn.html/....

the festival is generally held around the 2nd week of august, & i highly
recommend going at least once in your lifetime.  because you (or somebody)
had asked about mwmf earlier, i posted a rather lengthy description of it
in that feminist thread yesterday.... if you missed it, email me & i'll
send it to your personal email.

good luck & lemme know a year from now if you ended up going in '97!
kathy

        tuesday's child wrote:
>
> hi all.  could someone tell me where i can get more info on the michigan womyn's music festival?  thanks!
>
>                                                 tuesday's child
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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 01:08:45 -0700
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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs
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consider yourself stoned.  that's my ***favorite*** cover after down by
the river.  how *could* you... sob, sniffle...


cyndi johnson wrote:
>
> okay, i admit it - four words... "midnight train to georgia"
>
> (go ahead, stone me...)
>
> cyndi
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reply-to:     linda napikoski <napikosk@scf-fs.usc.edu>
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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!
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> #1 fan...??? i don't think so:-)
> this post reads/smells like a hoax:-)

agreed!

as for the whole number one fan thing though, can we say "misery"--hello!
        <shudder>

inspired by gravity,
linda

      interviewer: i like the honesty with which you present yourself.
      billy bragg: i have no choice really; here i am! i mean, what do
                   you think i am, kiss?

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subject:      re: nigc -- mwmf

hey folks, i boo-booed with the mwmf website address... didn't realize
that netscape would automatically set up a link when you type in an http
address, but it did, & it included the 3 dots at the end (...) just like
i typed 'em in.  here it is again w/o the dots, or just type it in
yourself:
  http://glbnet.com/events/mich_womyn.html/
sorry about any confusion!
kathy

kathy miller wrote:
>
> howdy t.c., i'm an aries too.  and i knew if i looked hard enough i'd find
> where i put the michigan info lost in the moving mess.  no the mess isn't
> moving, we just did & everything's a mess.  anyhow, you asked but i'll
> post this to the list in case anyone else wants to know:
>
> the mwmf phone number is: (616) 757-4766; don't know if it's a year-round
> number or not.
> or send a sase to:  wwtmc; p.o. box 22; walhalla, mi; 49458
> also found a website w/ this info & listing '96 performers, at:
> http://glbnet.com/events/mich_womyn.html/...
>
> the festival is generally held around the 2nd week of august, & i highly
> recommend going at least once in your lifetime.  because you (or somebody)
> had asked about mwmf earlier, i posted a rather lengthy description of it
> in that feminist thread yesterday.... if you missed it, email me & i'll
> send it to your personal email.
>
> good luck & lemme know a year from now if you ended up going in '97!
> kathy
>
>         tuesday's child wrote:
> >
> > hi all.  could someone tell me where i can get more info on the michigan womyn's music festival?  thanks!
> >
> >                                                 tuesday's child
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?
x-to:         "peter a. barta" <bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu>
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on thu, 26 sep 1996, peter a. barta wrote:

> is "love of the common people" an indigo girls original or is it a cover?

it's a cover.   the song is credited to hurley / wilkins, but i can't
remember who did the original version.

mat

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 01:31:49 -0700
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subject:      re: nigc -- mwmf

crap this is really getting embarrassing....  i forgot the 'www', duh!
ok, here it is again & now i'll shut up & crawl back into my cave.

for once and for all: ta-da, ta-da!!
  http://www.glbnet.com/events/mich_womyn.html/

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: i can't ever think of a good subject...
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on thu, 26 sep 1996, marianne barlow wrote:

> on thu, 26 sep 1996, ryan wrote:
>
> > can somebody tell me what soc stands for?  i've tried to figure it out, but
> > i can't.  i know i'm gonna feel brain-dead when i find out.
> > keep on groovin',
> > ryan
>
> thank you for having the guts to ask first, ryan.  i've been wondering
> that same thing for the past 30 messages.  of course, we could probably
> look it up on the faq list but who has the time to download that after
> reading 30 messages?  =)

the faq is off air now because marianne pyra who ran the page has left the
company.   soc means stream of consciousness.   if you want to read two that
were performed during chickenman, check out:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/indigo/amysoc.html

mat

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subject:      re: we are their number one fans, dammit!!

in a message dated 96-09-25 18:38:09 edt, you write:

<< >hello.  they were two feet away from us at eddie's attic in decatur and
>they talked to us and bought us a pitcher of beer afterwards.  >>
............and so on and so forth............

yes and  20 little squirrels live in my engine and make
my truck go fast when i feed them nuts !

love !
binky
(gotta run ! there seem to be some monkeys flying out of my butt ! ;)
(okay...i know it's over and was a joke, but i was out of town and
  missed all of the fun...so humor me dammit ! :)

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on thu, 26 sep 1996, kira raichert wrote:

>      hmmmm...i could have sworn it was flipping llamas :):):):)
>      kira

dang!! just as i thought you were getting over that kira!!

as far as flipping past songs is concerned - i do - just depending on the
mood i'm in - the songs i flip by will vary (often according to whether
i'm in an amy or emily mood!). however one song i always want to hear the
beginning of over and over again is mystery on 1200curfews - where a&e are
discussing the child asleep in the audience - i just love it when amy says
oh not asleep - just shy! and then laughs - it gets me everytime!!! <gr>

ok back to it...

juliet.
<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>

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subject:      the end of "airplane"/ beginning of nashville
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on thu, 26 sep 1996, jenn. brown wrote:

> i can't believe so many people dislike that song! my fave part is "i'll
> be makin' a dee-al..."

yeah--i used to not be heavily into airplane at all (ok, i admit it--i
skipped--and i have rop on cassette!) but i was heavily heavily heavily
into nashville because it completely fit my feelings for my stupid
university i was transferring away from and the stupid town this
university is in. (isn't *that* cosmic?!) so, since my rop is a cassette
like i already mentioned, i would always always always rewind or fast
forward to get to the beginning of nashville. invariably, i would end
up with a few seconds of airplane left and just let it play--so i'd hear
"i'll be making a deee-al" several times and then "nashville" and so they
started summing up my feelings for the aforementioned stupid university
and town together--like, i'll be making a deal--for my soul--get me out of
here--all these debts to pay--i kissed your land but you screwed up the
deal--etc.

now, i don't skip airplane. i even quote it sometimes. *grin*
inspired by gravity,
linda

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from:         monet <monet@mo.net>
subject:      re: dh update oly (nigc)
x-to:         jeni saulino <saulinoj@olywa.net>
in-reply-to:  <v01520d05ae7c9b66c194@[205.163.58.155]>

yowza! i pulled my email this morning to find 197 messages! (over 120
from this list alone)

i really think i need a digest format for this list! (someone
pleeeeeeeeze tell me there is one!?)  i really really don't want to
unsubscribe, but don't want to have to deal with trying to
delete/pick&choose which messages i want to read thru my hell known as
telnetting.  gawd, it takes forever! :(

i'm sad...can someone help?

holding off on unsub'ing, and crossing my fingers,
lisa

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subject:      re: astrological poll?
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i'm a virgo....'nuf said ;)

lisa

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subject:      help

i've tried this before, but i'll do so again.  my daughter subscribed to
the indigo girls digest.  she's now gone away to college.  i've tried to
unsubscribe the usual way, but my email address has been changed by my
server.  when i try to unsubscribe, i get a response that i can't do it
unless i send the message from my original address.  but that address no
longer exists.  a kind member of your group sent me another address to
try, but it didn't work.  so i'm trying again.  is there a real live
person i can write to?  if there is, can any of you help me find her\him?

thanks.

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subject:      re: nigc: shawn colvin
x-to:         tamara mizell <103660.214@compuserve.com>
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the newbie here again *cringe*.  i've only heard one song by shawn colvin
*cringe again*, up until yesterday when our local radio station play get
out of this house.  i almost fell off my chair! i live in st. louis, and
i've never heard shawn colvin played on any station here...they don't
even play ig here! (once i heard closer to fine at about 2am...that's it)

anyway, friends have been bugging me to listen, but being the poor sap i
am, i"m holding out for my next ig cd.  anyway, i heard get out and was
not impressed.  i agree, it has a very pop sound, and i was surprised
that 'this' was the music i'd been hearing so much about.  am i right in
assuming this is a bit of a difference from past recordings?  just
curious...and my 1cent -- broke today, don't have 2cents to submit. *grin*

happy friday y'all!
lisa

on fri, 27 sep 1996, tamara mizell wrote:

> hi everybody!
>
> for those of you who have heard shawn colvin's new song, "get out of this
> house," what do you think??  it doesn't really sound like shawn colvin to me for
> some reason.  i'm not sure why.  i think it is because it has more of a pop
> sound than some of her other songs.  hmm... someone mentioned she had just went
> through a divorce... you'd never guess it from this song!  *grin*  (i.e., "you
> act like a baby, you talk like a fool, get out of this house... go back to your
> mamma, go back to high school, get out of this house...).
>
> however, i love the new one "sunny came home" (the 2nd track on the promotional
> tape -- thanks larin! --> i'll get your tape out asap!).  it is pretty awesome
> imho!!  can't wait to hear the entire cd!
>
> peace and eclipses...
> tamara
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subject:      re: best non-lyric quotes

>i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
>is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!  for instance, one good quote
>would be:

>"oh, is that the moon?  i thought it was a rollercoaster!" --emily

here's one...
"you thought the moon was a rollercoaster?  whoa girlfriend." --amy

....wide-eyed and laughing...
   greta


>those girls can be such a hoot!  any takers on this thread??

>>>--reggi
*********************
usa women's soccer #1
*********************

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reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      favorite lesbian film ;)

anything with jodi foster in it.

get it?

i can feel the flames a comin

luv and no boundaries to that love-
oh! susanna
p.s. mi adore senorita jodita

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subject:      re: best non-lyric quotes
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mine is:  "he was soooooo cute...and that was just the beginning of the
rest of my life."  emily...you know where

                               jamie a suthard
                        <suthardj@ralph.southwestern.edu>

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subject:      i had a dream....

yay!! i did it!! i finally had one!!! an ig dream, that is!! wow, i woke up
just awhile ago and had to come share it with people who can
appreciate....k, here it is:

i was for some reason at my parent's house; which is a bit unusual because
i'm not often at my parent's house very often any more cause i've got my own
house...but <anyway>...i was hanging out in the rec room and the walls were
covered with strange and interesting posters and music related stuff--lots
of ig content on the walls.  i was so relaxed and comfortable; and there
with me, just hanging out, was amy and emily and their guitars!!!  they had
no real agenda and it seemed as if they were just enjoying being able to
relax and play...just the three of us!!  amy, then, was sitting in a lounge
chair which seemed low to the floor, and she had her guitar and started
playing some chords...i was kneeling on the floor in front of her and had a
microphone...(humor me, ok?)
so i started singing this song which just flowed out of me and amy just
jammed with me and it was so cool.  emily was kind of off to my left and
they were singing background..
the best part was at the end of the song, and amy looked at me with a big
smile and she seemed so genuinly impressed!!  wow.
i woke up and realized it was a dream and tried and tried to remember how
the song went but, of course, i couldn't.  i do remember that amy was
playing chords to some of her songs as we played "my" song...she thought
that was fun!!

ok, that's it.  i have always wished i could think up a song but have always
had a difficult time forming words with thoughts, so for this dream, to have
a song flow out...well, it was pretty great...
thanks for letting me share.  sorry for the length....time for coffee.


mornin!!!
stacy (in tacoma)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        "i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty
            and witty
                and....hey!!!"

        ellen degeneres at the bathroom mirror
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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subject:      nigc -- sorry

sorry to everyone for sending an annoying message about how to subscribe.
i realize my mistake now.  i am now initiated and will not err again.
many thanks to all those who responded with helpful suggestions.

glad to be aboard.

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subject:      thoughts-airplane, dreams

i like airplane.  i like it cuz amy goes... "my bed, my hometown..."  and
that puts ideas in my head.  also when she sings, "on the ground..."  ;-)
but i admit, i skip that song.  wait, what am i talking about, i don't even
have a stereo in my car.  i would kill to be able to listen to even just
that one song!

oh!  and boy have i been having the amy ray dreams lately.  many many good
dreams.  plus the lunar eclipse last night, it must be a sign... i am on my
way to meet amy ray!  one day.  i am their number one fan dammit!  (okay
kids that's a big jk... don't write me about it!)

love
corinne
who had to get up at 7:30 to take richelle to work!  don't you wish you
could have done it, chris!  and happy birthday christa, we love you!  can
you tell i am too tired to sit here and type personal email!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and every lesson learned a
line upon your beautiful face
-emily saliers
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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 11:21:58 -0400
reply-to:     "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
organization: charles river associates
subject:      abba and skipping songs
in-reply-to:  <46067137011c0e00>

with all the love and respect in the world,  and i mean that,  can we
please stop talking about abba!!!   i'm just now recovering from going to
middle-school during the height of their popularity.  i still have
nightmares of bus rides with a dozen 13 year old girls singing waterloo.
i became an anti-social recluse after too many parties where they were
played over and over and over and over ...   then, just last year, i got
dancing queen stuck in my head for weeks!  aaggghhh!   i can't take it!
please stop ...   please ...  i'm on my knees ...  i'm begging.   i know
i could just skip those posts, but they've been funny, and it's sucked me
in.  please, i have no self-control,  have pity on me.

even worse than abba and dancing queen was one night when i was driving
home and i realized i was trying to remember the line that followed  "you
can tell by the way i use my walk / i'm a woman's man, no time to talk"
talk about nightmares!  i nearly drove into a tree to just end it right
there!

as far as skipping songs -  i think it was very considerate of ig to put
airplane and nashville next to each other on rop, so i can just skip them
both at once.  they are the only two ig songs that i really don't like.
rop is my favorite ig album too!  the main songs i repeat are left me a
fool and watershed, but there are others depending on my mood.

i was talking to a frind the other day, and she asked me if there were
any singers or bands that had put out 3 or more albums who didn't have a
single song that i didn't like.   i thought about it and had to say no!
i couldn't think of one.  there are a number who have put out two albums
or less that i like all of the songs on (dar williams, catie curtis,
paula cole), and a lot who have put out three or more where i could pick
three albums in a row that i like all the songs (a whole bunch here),
even the first three (ig fall into this category), but that's it.   i
thought that was kind of an interesting thing to think about.

peace,
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 08:38:55 -0700
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subject:      quotes...

before i start, count me in as another aries...wow, we could start our own list.

>from:    regina shelley <rshelley@oregon.uoregon.edu>
>subject: best non-lyric quotes
>
>i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
>is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!

it's hard to pick favorites, so i'll just pick and choose ones that catch my
fancy (as they used to say...):

        "i have alot of memories of standing on the side of the stage,
        listening to emily sing river and wondering what to give her for
        christmas."
                -amy      (taken from 1200 curfews liner notes; river)


        "tell your friend i said 'hey' too...she was nice."
                -emily    (taken from an interview with my gf for public
                           radio back in aug. of 1994...i was the 'friend'!!)


ok, that is all.  =)

stacy. (from tacoma)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        "i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty,
         i feel pretty
            and witty
                and....hey!!!"

        ellen degeneres at the bathroom mirror
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>> well, if you're volunteering, i'm an aries.
>>
>>                                                tuesday's child
-------------
>i'm an aries too.... :)

>->amy
-------------enda uotaqa aterialma---------

aries rules!

tamara (bet you can't guess what my sign is!!  *chuckle*  :)

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>> well, if you're volunteering, i'm an aries.
>>
>>                                                tuesday's child
-------------
>i'm an aries too.... :)

>->amy
-------------enda uotaqa aterialma---------

aries rules!

tamara (bet you can't guess what my sign is!!  *chuckle*  :)


  i second that one...

   greta
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subject:      re: no curfews chickenman...

does anyone know what amy says on the nc version of chickenman after "i =
was running down on queen street...", that makes everybody laugh?  i've =
listened to it a bunch of times, but all i can hear is "enter into it" =
which doesn't make much sense....
anyone out there with good ears want to help me?

...dancing in the mind...
greta

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subject:      re: astrological poll?

what,..... no one else is a  scorpio?

betsy

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      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
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at 11:21 pm 9/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
>i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
>is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!

a couple of my favorites (sorry if i misquote)-

"sometimes i feel like a strawberry" -emily

and

the whole fuzzy bear cub thing

jazz

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hey, everybody. and "bonjour"  to all of you french loving people.   i am a
newbie but i refuse to tell you anything about myself except for the fact
that i am cool and an aries on top of that.  i have to admit that i do skip
"chickenman" a lot.  i don't know why but it just doesn't work for me.  i
consider myself an "emily person" but  one of my favorite songs among many
is "land of canaan".  going back a real long time ago, i prefer the studio
version by the way.  it has something extra in the beginning but considering
the fact that i am not a musical buff i don't know what that something is
but i know i like it.  it adds some flavor.  i love to relisten to "hammer
and nail", "watershed", "virginia woolf", "midnight train to georgia" ;) ,
etc. etc.  you get the idea.  anywho, i just wanted to put in a little
input.  you know give a little rather than just taking.  oh, and whoever
thought of the quote thing, "good idea".  quotes rock.  although i don't
have one to contribute.  sorry.

rebekah

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capricorn

                               jamie a suthard
                        <suthardj@ralph.southwestern.edu>

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from:         lisa savu <weenracer@aol.com>
subject:      soc's

hey, do any of you guys remember a while back, (like, april), when somebody
was making requests for people to send him/her boots of different soc's, so
that he/she could make a collective boot of all of them to distribute to the
list?...  last i heard he/she had been able to obtain a pretty good number of
soc's, (i remember they were still asking around for the athens, oh 4-12-95
show, b/c i was at that show, and i was really hoping they _would_ end up
getting it and using it for the collection),; but then it was like, all of
the sudden they dropped off the face of the earth, and we never heard
anything else about it!...  i'm kind of bummed about this, b/c i really would
have loved to have a boot of a bunch of soc's.   i was thinking that maybe if
that person doesn't respond to this inquiry, _i_ could begin the project
anew... but i really would be starting _completely_ from scratch, since i
have not a one soc to my name...  if anybody is interested in sending a copy
of an soc that they have, (i think most of them are from the swamp ophelia
tour), to me, i _promise_ it would not got to waste!  i really want to do
this, so if anybody wants to help me get it together, e-mail me privately,
okay?

thanks!
--lisa

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subject:      best non-lyric quotes

how about "you have to laugh at yourself because you'd cry your eyes out if
you didn't."--emily   <-----my personal favorite

andi

>>i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
>>is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!  for instance, one good quote
>>would be:

>>"oh, is that the moon?  i thought it was a rollercoaster!" --emily

>here's one...
>"you thought the moon was a rollercoaster?  whoa girlfriend." --amy

>....wide-eyed and laughing...
>  greta


>>those girls can be such a hoot!  any takers on this thread??

>>>--reggi

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                    "it feels funny being free."-ar

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 10:34:20 +0000
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subject:      re: astrological poll?

> what,..... no one else is a  scorpio?

i'm on the cusp of scorpio and sagitarius.  does that help?

kirsten in van

>
> betsy
>
> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
> ..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
>       when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
>                        all for one and one for all
>                     then we sing the common call.....
>                                                              e. saliers
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subject:      the whole fuzzy bear cub thing

what is the fuzzy bear cub thing??

--reggi
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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs?

actually.... i like to throw a cd or five on the changer and
click on "shuffle"

ig goes really good with billie holliday (what doesn't)...along
with some ani difranco and joni m. and team dresch :)
(also betty carter for good measure:)

just call me eclectic !

blinky
(p.s. i dreamed that i was sittin' on a stage and michael stipe
and emily saliers were standin' side by side giving a looong
dramatic reading of some sort and i was fidgeting and squirrely (sp?)
and emily got really mad at me and yelled at me *sniff*)

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subject:      astrological sign

now wouldn't it be easier to figure out how many of each sign by simply
looking through the birthday list??  i mean, somebody still has that, right??

--reggi
(a libra, who, by the way, was created last of all the signs to balance out
all the rest!!  the only non-animal sign, without whom there would be chaos!!)

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i'm new. i'm the scorpio betsy was looking for. i like all the songs, i
can't believe you guys skip songs. actually, i'm not too fond of cedar
tree. i like airplane and i love nashville and midnight train to
georgia. my favorite song is ghost. as for repeating songs, i
occasionally do with ghost or hand me downs. i've probably done it with
almost every song at one time or another for a period of time.
- dave

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subject:      tour schedule

does anyone know the itinerary of this summer's honor the earth tour?  i
tried looking on the internet, but had no luck.  and where do you get
information on the newport folk festival?  it's my goal to make it there
next summer.

one last question: is the tape tree almost ready to go for the recent
concert in minneapolis?

a virgo,
chandra

p.s.  i skip "love's recovery"

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subject:      amy's clinton msg, women for women, and please...

mesa, arizona.  august 1994. outdoor amphitheatre.
emily: it is hot as _shit_ here.

question: does anyone still have the message from amy saved, or can anyone
remember the gist of what was said and share it with me, where she spoke
about her dislike for president clinton?


oh, question: this women for women 2 thing--i suppose someone would have
told me if ig were on women for women 1, right? does anyone know who was
on the first one? private email, please, if nigc.

which brings me to my next point: people, please please please stop
posting one line nigc messages all day long--example--the astrological
signs--hello, private email. it just doesn't make sense to have 800
useless messages with everyone's sign. this is *not* meant to be rude--and
i value nigc tangents as much as the next person--but i mean useless
stuff, like replies that include entire messages--and five posts in a row
from the same person--when several people have come forth and said they
have to unsubscribe or switch to digest due to flooded inboxes. we should
really be a bit more considerate of our fellow listies. and no, i haven't
designated myself some spokesperson or dictator. i'm just begging y'all.

inspired by gravity,
linda

      interviewer: i like the honesty with which you present yourself.
      billy bragg: i have no choice really; here i am! i mean, what do
                   you think i am, kiss?

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the only non-animal sign? is virgo considered an animal? (i have no clue,
i'm only an astrology-expert-wanna-be)

just curious...

lisa

on fri, 27 sep 1996, regina shelley wrote:

> now wouldn't it be easier to figure out how many of each sign by simply
> looking through the birthday list??  i mean, somebody still has that, right??
>
> --reggi
> (a libra, who, by the way, was created last of all the signs to balance out
> all the rest!!  the only non-animal sign, without whom there would be chaos!!)
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for the record, i'm a cancer...

-andi

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                    "it feels funny being free."-ar

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subject:      re: astrological poll

another cancer here.

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subject:      nigc- the dead

>i wasnt meaning to be nasty; rather accurate.  thru the course of
>their long, strange trip, the dead amazed many of their faithful with
>their musical honesty & talent.  many great musicians could barely
>keep up with them.  honestly, though, jerry (& the gang) were often
>so strung out that they did, indeed, forget the words to their songs.
> remember, jerry wasn't the first to go via drugs.  remember brent
>mydland?
yeah , and don't forget ron 'pigpen' mckernan , who was the first from
'liver failure' . at least brent was able to remember the words . i don't
recall him messing up . jerry was a given , bobby much less...oh well, fare
thee well ...
lsd

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subject:      re: astrological sign

i haven't seen any tauruses (is that right?).  am i the lone bull on the
list?
keep on groovin',
ryan
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cecile
you write...
>to me, a non-feminist is a person (could be male, could be female)
>who simply doesn't recognize that women have different needs,
>desires, and experiences than men.
oh oh, and here i thought i might be a feminist, now i'm not sure. =
i'm willing to concede that my set of needs, desires, and experiences =
is unique to me. i am not sure that i share them with all women or =
even most women. i probably share some with women , some with men.
i do know that the biggest barriers to my development as a person =
have been in my head ( internalized "proper" roles or limits i too =
readily accepted, at first). with time (and i have had plenty, being =
more than twice the mean age(does that make me twice as mean?);-), =
hard work and encouragement from both males and females, i've been =
able to divest myself of much of that garbage.there is still work to =
do and i will accept help from any person along the way ( and give =
help in return, if i can). i have problems with separatism as in my =
book- separate =82 equal, but on the other hand i know there are =
times when its nice to be with your friends and do (ducking) silly =
woman things. ooops, did i say that?:-)). here is to diversity in all =
things, including opinions.,

getting into my triple thickness, spot welded, flame-proof cover-alls


marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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hey alec!

ithink you've got the right idea about how things should be, but there's
still some things to be done to get there. i agree that taking pride in
being gay makes as much sense as taking pride in having blue eyes,
because if you're born that way you just *are*. but as long as some
people look down on groups for their skin/eye color or their sexual
preferences and try to make them feel less than human, there is a need
for these objects of derision to stand up and say i'm ____ and i'm proud!

this ain't a flame

marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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subject:      re: nigc: re: abba/indigo-girls collaberation??? hmmm....

on thu, 26 sep 1996, tracy wrote:

> ps kim really is waaaaay cool irl... so feel free, all 800+ of you, to
> really harass her about getting together with her public. actually, i think
> we should just give up and hold a party at her place.

cool!  so who's gonna pay for my plane ticket?  <now
wearing pitiful expression of a deeply indebted college
student>

;)

anna

"pride is a strange disease; it makes everybody
sick except for the one who has it."
          -anonymous

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on thu, 26 sep 1996, susywoozywuzzabear wrote:

> --- you wrote:
> hmmm...the only ig song i've ever skipped is "airplane", because the =
> woooooaaaahhhoooo background singers tend to grate on my somewhat =
> fragile nerves...
> --- end of quoted material ---
> wow....nutty stuff...i adore airplane, its one of my fave emily songs. i turn
> it up and sing really loud in my car....
> 'great thing to read bfeore a treeeeeeiiiiiiiippppppp"..... am i the only one?

my greatest wish last spring when i was flying out and back
for my cross-cultural trip was to have that song to listen
to on the airplane.  it makes the flight ever so much more
interesting... ;)

anna

"pride is a strange disease; it makes everybody
sick except for the one who has it."
          -anonymous

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subject:      re: the whole fuzzy bear cub thing

at 10:18 am 9/27/96 -0700, you wrote:
>what is the fuzzy bear cub thing??
>
>--reggi
sorry, i was referring to in the galileo video
it was something like this:
i was a cute fuzzy bear cub
no i was a cute fuzzy bear cub
i was
no i was

if anyone can correct my misquotation, i'd appreciate it.
jazz

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subject:      non-lyric quotes

hey everybody!

does anybody ever laugh out loud during watershed when they say:

amy: (about power of two video) the house was cold though.

emily: the house was freezing!  it'll be a long time 'fore we do that again.

or what about:

(in response to the side of the stage question)

amy:  that's what it was because i used to run the sound for us and i would
be closer to the soundboard.

emily: even though i was closer to the soundboard.

amy:  when was that...?

emily:  remember...

amy:  oh that's right you were. oh well, forget that. we don't know.

have an indigo day!!

rob

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subject:      nigc: dh redmond show

last night... cool... wow... i talk too much, so i will let the others
review the danielle howle concert last night.

        was way cool to meet karey, binky, sundara, carolyn, miranda, and
dang i cannot remember your name but you may smack me hard tonight... we had
a killer time... and the moon was cool, too!  i love even just chatting with
danielle.... oops.. talking too much...

redmond tonight:
        at this point i am saying just go with the directions/phone number
ann gave us.  they have not yet called me back with "official" directions
and i am going to be away from my computer possibly until tomorrow.  worst
case scenario (as agreed upon with danielle howle) we will all be waving at
each other as we circle the freeway... lol.  perhaps she'll do a special
"median concert" just for us?

assuming we can find the place, should you wish to identify us:
        ignoring my wardrobe coordinator (since karey upgraded jeni anyhow),
i am just being my normal informal self... light blue jeans that have seen
better days, black pride shirt, reebs, still wearing glasses, and if i am
feeling as insecure about meeting people as i did last night i will also be
wearing my "insecurity hat"... has eeyore on it.  can't miss. also will hide
behind jeni again... have not seen her yet today so i don't know what she's
wearing... look for her to be wearing her "(green)" insecurity hat i'll
wager tho.

see you all tonight!!!! whooo hoooo!!!!

tracy <going out to buy better film>

"isn't it strange, but isn't it wonderful...
        the things we find to fall in love..."
                -- "before the fall"
                        taylor williams

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subject:      danielle howle article in willamette week (nigc)

hey there,

i don't think anyone else has posted this article from the sept.25th
edition of ww. she's playing at thee o with elliott smith on 5 pm, sept.
29th. enjoy.

martine


two times a lady

by richard martin


for a singer/songwriter playing in front of an audience, the worst enemy's
often a chatty couple in the corner or the vociferous group in the back.
many performers will berate unruly audience members, but not danielle
howle. "you don't want to interfere when anybody's talking," she says from
her home in columbia, sc. "it could be two people falling in love, or
talking about something so bad that just happened to them. so you don't
want to be quiet, because it's not really your place to."

call it southern hospitality or just another indication of howle's
open-minded nature. other examples: she's friends with the members of
fugazi and hootie and the blowfish; her last album "about to burst" was
released on a label run by members of the indie-rock band tsunami, and her
other record, "live at mckissick museum", is out on a label co-owned by
amy ray of folk-rock's indigo girls. more importantly, howle's lyrics come
from unconventional angles, whether she's openly poetic ("soft white china
patterns on his teeth"), singing from a bird's point of view ("parakeet
protest song") or pretending that it's christmas in order to wrestle with
depression after a lover's departure ("red candles").

howle's unorthodox songwriting notions and distinctive vocals -- she can
elicit a twang that'll transform the word 'mess' into 'may-ay-ess' without
any micron of pretension -- have sparked a flurry of interest. her fellow
columbia residents in hootie reportedly want to sign her to their new
breakin' records, and she was referred to as  a "hot young ticket" in a
rolling stone item about her and current tourmate elliott smith. now 28,
howle performed as a solo artist and in a band, the now-defunct lay quiet
awhile, for more than 10 years before this recognition, yet she's unfazed.
"i think the reason is, if you hang around long enough, maybe someone will
notice," she says.

besides simply hanging around, howle has been releasing her music in
greater quantities. first, she started mill records, her own label, and
issued the "live at mckissick museum" cd. it's simply a recording of a
show that took place on the university of south carolina campus, but
atlanta's daemon records, a nonprofit label run by musicians including the
indigo girls' amy ray, agreed to manufacture more copies. recently, the
full-length "about to burst" followed on the respected indie label simple
machines. recorded with her newly formed band the tantrums and guests dan
litteton (of ida) and tara jane o'neil (of retsin), the 12-song collection
offers a slicker version of aching songs like "red candles" and some more
rock- and country-oriented material.

noting the odd divergence between the two labels she's currently involved
with, howle says, "i like the fact that they're so different. it's just
more proof that you can't pigeonhole artists. it's not very big proof.
it's just tiny proof."

howle also skirts categorization as a performer, talking to the audience
between songs or launching into a quasi-comedy routine.

"it's my way of getting over my own personal shyness," she explains. "i
used to talk a lot because i thought, 'all my songs are kind of mellow,
and some of them are kind of sad, so maybe i'd better say something funny
so people won't leave.' now i just like talking to people."

lately, howle's had a lot more talking to do. she made recent appearances
at new york's macfest and cmj music marathon and seattle's bumbershoot.
she will finish up her first west coast tour in portland.

her next project is a home two-track recording of her songs made on a
tape-to-tape deck, which she'll put out on mill.

her unusual two-pronged appeal has seen her open on an indigo girls tour,
then take to the road with louisville's retsin. apparently, howle can play
to neo-hippies, feminists and indie rockers with equally positive results.
and she insists that the most gratifying experience comes from meeting
people, even if they were the ones in the corner talking during her set.

"if someone approaches me after a show and says, 'hey, we had a good time
listening to your music,' it means more to me than if an ad in a magazine
sold a record. because it's like i know who they are. that's why i started
mill records: i wanted to send all the mail order out myself. you can't
really know everybody though," she says. "but you can try."

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help me!! i need to get off this list! don't get me wrong, i love the list
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subject:      stop it!

dear ig list--i am not one who normally bitches and moans but i will today
:).  i know there is often discussion in regard to people posting misc
items and nigc items.  some think it's fine, others don't and still others
just deal.  i usually see them and don't mind deleting a lot of things i am
not interested in.  but when the deleting process alone takes ten
minutes!!!!????  please stop posting please stop posting please stop
posting.  i mean 115 messages since 10 last night and it isn't even 3
oclock here!! do you want my mailbox to explode?  this is craziness.

just think before you post (i obviously haven't done so because this will
now spark a 47,000 message overload about what is and isn't appropriate for
posting).  lose the me too messages and take the astrology to alt.
astrology.  i really don't care what everyone's sign is and whether my moon
is in sync (sp?) with your stars.  i mean political nigc's and and other
semi-ig related things are fine because they have important messages.  even
ellen degeneres is semi-ig related.  but there are too many threads going
on here.  just think please before you post and remember there's private
email.  this is not a flame on whoever started the astrology thread--that
was just an example.  i suppose i'll put on my armor anyway because i can
feel the heat of flames already.  tgif!  later

greg

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okay, for all you out there like me who actually *like* airplane....i
think it took amazing vocal talent to be able to sing in harmony and
sound like an airplane taking off.  very artistic.  i love it.

the lone coyote

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on fri, 27 sep 1996, ryan wrote:

> i haven't seen any tauruses (is that right?).  am i the lone bull on the
> list?

talking of which, i don't think i've seen any aquariuses yet either (except
me).

mat

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           the fuzzy bear cub thing is on the watershed video during
          the galileo video.  emily and amy go through the video
          claiming who they were in past lives.  at the end of the
          video they argue as to which one of them was a fuzzy bear
          cub.

          "i was a fuzzy bear cub" emily
          "no, i was a fuzzy bear cub" amy
          "i was" emily
          "no, i was" amy

          (or something similar)

          if you havent' seen the watershed video....run and get it
          now!!!  awsome!

          later
          xena warrior princess
          aka- lisa

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well, i'm not exactly sure what's going on, but what the hey...
i'm a capricorn.


\  /
\/
oo   <----- this is supposed to be a goat...oh well.
\/   (i freely admit it looks like an ant...or something that's not a
        goat at all.)

peace and stuff,
january

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x-to:         monet <monet@mo.net>
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i am not a radio listener, so i haven't heard shawn's new single release.
i don't think stations in alabama play much shawn, ig, etc. anyway.
but i disappointed to hear such harsh reviews from those of you who have
heard get out of this house.  yet i'm not surprised.

when was the last time you bought a new cd and felt that the song released on
the radio was the best track on the album?  this has never happened to me.
those of you who are diehard shawn fans like me will probably buy the cd the
day it comes out in stores regardless of what you think of any of the tracks.
for someone who has never heard shawn before . . . pop sells records!!
that's the purpose (as i see it) for the radio - to play catchy, poppy,
songs.  that is why jootie and blow-wish have been so successful.  they record
very catchy, bubble gum, lolly-pop type songs, and the whole alternative
cheese culture loves that junk.  along with the gin blossoms,
counting crows, and maria fairy.

i'm optimistic that the entire cd will be well worth the wait we've
endured thus far.  have you ever listened to "tennessee" (fat city)?
i think it will be difficult for get out of this house to beat that song
in the 'pop' category.

jcm

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in a message dated 96-09-27 09:23:08 edt, monet@mo.net (monet) writes:

>i'm a virgo....'nuf said ;)
>
>lisa
>
>

well, i'm a virgo and a leo (august 23), so na-na-nana-na!

-margot

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subject:      re: do you ever skip songs

>> one word..."airplane"
>>

well, i like airplane (right there with ya, power to the sisters!!!)  but,
i agree:

>
>okay, i admit it - four words... "midnight train to georgia"
>
>(go ahead, stone me...)

i can't stand this song, and for the record, this is the only ig song i
can't stand.  i'm glad to know someone else doesn't like it either.  go
ahead, flame me,  i don't care, but really, i'm too cute to flame, so don't
waste the bandwidth...hee hee!

peace, love, and john jacob jingle hymer schmidt,
sundara (or sundarling, my new favorite nickname, and the only nickname
i've ever really liked)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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subject:      nigc-ani show in dc

hi everyone
i was just wondering if anyone was going to ani difranco on november 22 at
lisner auditorium in dc ???   i'd like to meet some of yoy cool people.
   see y'all later. i'm off to see better than ezra at american university.
it's free !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

later
sasha

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 17:06:51 -0500
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subject:      re: airplane bashing :( -reply

i, too, love airplane.  i like the melodies and harmonies, but i also
love the lyrics.  her feelings are conveyed so well.


-j

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subject:      re: nigc-almost live dream

hey, i haven't managed to have an ig dream yet but for you puget-sounders
out there, you might be thrilled to know that i did have an almost live
dream last night - the entire cast sitting in my living room, john
keister in a metro bus uniform.  don't know where that came from.  talked
to tracy conway, which isn't that far from reality since in waking life
she does live down the street.  hey, this is not only an almost live
dream posting, it's also an almost live encounter posting since we often
do see tracy walking her dog & before i realized who she was i had a few
conversations w/her (awake, for real). now that i know, i'm too shy.

haven't had a jp patches dream yet, but i was a patches pal many years
ago.  and my mom swims at the same pool with wunda wunda.

km

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on fri, 27 sep 1996, regina shelley wrote:

> (a libra, who, by the way, was created last of all the signs to balance out
> all the rest!!  the only non-animal sign, without whom there would be chaos!!)

right on, reggie, libras are cool!  =)

the lone coyote

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subject:      nigc- ellen, cover story in ew

hi all,

the oct. 4 issue of entertainment weekly features a story on the whole ellen
coming out thing.  i can't decide if i want to believe ew as an official
source on this controversy, but it does somewhat sum up all the signs, like
what is an actual quote and what is just innuendo and rumor.

"we're adding another character- a guy, and his name is les bian." -ellen,
quoted in the article, from an interview on good morning america.  besides
the whole 'lebanese' thing, i think that's the funniest quote i've heard from
ellen....

anyway, i think if it all ends up being hype and never happens, if it's
ellen's decision that's one thing.  but if it's because of some decision made
by disney then there's gotta be something we can do to show support for the
show and tell the executives to screw the christian coalition and others who
are threatening to boycott products advertised during the show, and the
companies who pull their ads.

well, that's it.  i have to stop now cause i'm getting too angry.

-sheri :|

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

  _       _ ------ _               o      |....when you learn
{  ~\_/         o   \    o  o           |to love yourself
{  ~ _   ]          <  o                 |you will dissolve
{_~/  \ _        _ /                    | all the stones
             v-----                        | that are cast....
   seaphish@aol.com                -amy ray
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subject:      re: best non-lyric quotes
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on watershed - the video when asked what they want out of life emily
said, "write better songs, be happy" and amy cuts her off with "i
don't care about that" and emily replies, " okay, write songs, be miserable,
write better songs!" trust amy to not care about being happy!!! such a
brooding, espresso in dark cafes, poet in a black turtleneck, thing to
say!  peace, kim (north van)
on thu, 26 sep 1996, regina shelley wrote:

> i'm interested in finding out what your favorite ig quotes are.  but there
> is one catch--the quote can't be from a song!!  for instance, one good quote
> would be:
>
> "oh, is that the moon?  i thought it was a rollercoaster!" --emily
>
>
> those girls can be such a hoot!  any takers on this thread??
>
> --reggi
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subject:      danielle howle in oly - kinda igc

well!  last night a bunch of us listmembers met up in olympia, wa to see
danielle howle  (hi karey, claire, tracy, jeni, and carolyn)  it was so
fun!  everyone should try and meet up with listmembers,  so everyone in the
seattle area,  come to sit-n-spin.  and everyone else,  if you have a
chance, go see danielle howle,  she's a great singer, and really funny and
cute!  we ran (well walked) around on capitol way,  (which amy mentions in
hey kind friend, there's the igc for ya)  and saw the eclipse.  we got to
see binky's amazing pictures of b-shoot, and some other places.  (go visit
her website if you haven't seen her pics--they're great)  and i sang john
jacob jingle hymer schmidt to everyone...hee!  anyway, it was a fun night,
even though we were all kinda tired, and i can't wait for saturday!!!!

peace, love, and john jacob jingle hymer schmidt,
sundara (or sundarling, my new favorite nickname, and the only nickname
i've ever really liked)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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subject:      hit that rewind again, sister! (nigc)

--- you wrote:
>a related question:  are there any songs you'll rewind to listen to *again*
>when they're over?

and jendy replied:

i can say i've done this quite often. i've even been known to set my
cd player on repeat and listen to the same song 3 or 4 times. i do this to
some of amy's stuff as well, but i must say that most of the time, it's emily.
--- end of quoted material ---

i have heard if you do this too much you can go blind or grow hair on yer palms

just kiddin tee hee

susan  just plain ol susan

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subject:      bejae flemming in nc (nigc)
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hey y'all,

bejae is going to be performing in north carolina this next month
(actually, starting 9/29 in cary, nc) and i just thought i'd urge you to
go see her if you get the chance!  here's her schedule for the next few
weeks:

september 29, 1996 -- 2:00-4:00pm
          borders books and music, cary, nc
     october 4, 1996 -- 8:00pm
          borders books and music, greensboro, nc
     october 5, 1996 -- 2:00pm
          city stage festival, greensboro, nc
     october 5, 1996 -- 8:00-10:00pm
          unitarian fellowship, robinhood rd., winston-salem, nc
     october 11, 1996 -- 8:00pm
          borders books and music, charlotte, nc
     october 12, 1996
          with tracy drach!
          binkley baptist church, chapel hill, nc
          (don't be nervous! i've been assurred that we can all be ourselves
           here! [bejae's assurance here])
     october 26, 1996 -- 9:00pm
          java joes, des moines, ia

--------

hope some of you can make it, you'll have a great time!  and those of
you in iowa or the midwest, bejae'll be back around the end of october
for some shows here-- email me for details or check out her web page at
http://129.186.123.55/bejae/bejae.htm

take care & have fun!
naz

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subject:      re: skipping

>i will pretty much always skip hey jesus, airplane, this train and pushing
>the needle..   its not that i hate those or anything, but i'm usually too
>impatient to get to the ones next (ok, except for this train which is too
>depressing).  although i'm starting to be ok with airplane.

hmmm, all of those songs except this train have ended up on mix tapes of
mine at one point or another.  ptntf is one of my all time favorites and i
just love the roches on airplane, hey i just love the roches!

it's always interesting hearing other's point of view on favorite/least
favorite songs.

john c

connecticut

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 00:55:06 +000
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subject:      re: astrological poll?

wo, 27.9.96 lisa wrote:

>i'm a virgo....'nuf said ;)
>
>lisa
>
>

then margot said:

>well, i'm a virgo and a leo (august 23), so na-na-nana-na!
>
>-margot


hey...me too! 23 august...'66.

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subject:      meaningless postings.

<<several people have come forth and said they have to unsubscribe or switch
to digest>>

those of us on the digest also have to deal with another problem...  the
posts that say "if you don't care about this topic, you can delete this right
now..."  well, no, i can't.  i have to scroll all the way through some
150-line message that somebody has forwarded from another list, looking for
the start of the next message.  and i *have* to pay attention, or i'll skip
right through the next message.

i'd also like to suggest that while .sigs can be fun, they're usually only
fun once.  if you've posting to this list already, we've seen your .sig.
many of you have contributed the same .sig hundreds of times.  often, i'll
see the same .sig several times in a single digest.

and one-line posts are *never* one line.  in a recent digest, i noted a "one
line" post that actually ended up totalling thirty lines.  three lines of
headers, one line of message, fifteen lines of .sig, three lines telling me
where to send admin requests, and a bunch of blank lines sprinkled
throughout.  that means this took two whole "pages" in my box, so that i
could learn that somebody i never heard of is a particular astrological sign.
woo-ee.

let's be considerate.  turn off the .sigs, or at least keep them small...
please?

-vic.
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<<have you ever listened to "tennessee" (fat city)? i think it will be
difficult for get out of this house to beat that song in the 'pop'
category.>>

wow.  it's unusual for a song with a lot of banjo to be described as "pop."

for those of you who are getting your first exposure to shawn through her new
album, i'd just ask that you don't judge her exclusively by it.  when she
goes into the studio, she tends to make a radical departure from the way that
she performs her songs normally.  (in other words, her albums tend to go from
slightly overproduced to extremely overproduced, in my opinion.)  and from
what i've heard, the new album is pretty extremely overproduced.  a better
starting point may be last year's "live '88" cd.  while the recording is
several years old, it presents shawn playing acoustically, which is,
hopefully, the way you'll get to see her if you see her live.

i really didn't have a very high opinion of her until i went to see her
perform live a few years ago.  now i've seen her well over a dozen times, and
some of her shows rank up there as the best shows i've ever seen.

-vic.
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subject:      nigc: dh on oly final planning post
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>         oh and we will both be attempting to take some pics, but
neither of
> us are "booters" ... ie, i do not have any appropriate recording
appliances.
> so, you sexy seattleites and such... any of you going to boot?  if
nothing
> else we can argue about it in person and maybe set it up for the
redmond or
> seattle shows.  :-)


there is no need to worry about booting the show in secret. danielle is
very cool about that sort of thing.... just ask her if you can do it.

sharon.... the brit abroad.

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subject:      re: stop it!

yea, me too!

<grin>  sorry, i just had to!!!
- jen hall

on fri, 27 sep 1996 14:56:00 -0600 greg matthew flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
writes:
>lose the me too messages ...
>feel the heat of flames already.  tgif!  later
>
>greg
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me too, soooooooosannna!
i think the roaches rock on this song...and i looovvee the lyrics!

on thu, 26 sep 1996, susan b. marine wrote:

> --- you wrote:
> hmmm...the only ig song i've ever skipped is "airplane", because the =
> woooooaaaahhhoooo background singers tend to grate on my somewhat =
> fragile nerves...
> --- end of quoted material ---
> wow....nutty stuff...i adore airplane, its one of my fave emily songs. i turn
> it up and sing really loud in my car....
> 'great thing to read bfeore a treeeeeeiiiiiiiippppppp"..... am i the only one?
>
> i luv y'all for makin me always see the other side!!!
>
> susywoozywuzzabear
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uh, i love that one too...i mean, love it!!!
but i'm not gonna stone you.  i just don't ever skip over ig songs...cuz i
think they all rock...but not everyone does...


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on thu, 26 sep 1996, cyndi johnson wrote:

> jen hall wrote:
> >
> > one word..."airplane"
> >
>
> okay, i admit it - four words... "midnight train to georgia"
>
> (go ahead, stone me...)
>
> cyndi
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on fri, 27 sep 1996, kimberly hobbs wrote:

> on watershed - the video when asked what they want out of life emily
> said, "write better songs, be happy" and amy cuts her off with "i
> don't care about that" and emily replies, " okay, write songs, be miserable,
> write better songs!" trust amy to not care about being happy!!! such a
                                                                  ^^^^^^
> brooding, espresso in dark cafes, poet in a black turtleneck, thing to
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> say!  peace, kim (north van)

yeah!  my kinda woman!  just foolin'.  well, actually no i wasn't but
that's beside the point.  i was, in fact, if we're gonna get technical
here, funning.  sorry, 'bout the wierdness.  had too much coffee
tonight.  and on top of that i found an ellen james society cd for 25%
off of $8.  to find anything like that in albany ny is a miracle.  also
found a very cool compilation cd with band de soleil, paula cole, patty
larkin and ani defranco on it.  can't remember the name of it, sorry.
but anyway, i'm buzzing from the high of these very cool finds and am
going to go home aand listen to them very soon.  but first i have to say
this:

        one of my favorite quotes is from watershed:

        emily: sometimes i feel like a strawberry.

does that mean she's deliciously sweet and juicy?  just wondering.  ;)
okay, i've been silly enough for one night i guess.  gonna go listen to
my way cool new (used) cd's.

                                                tuesday's child

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subject:      (nigc) valu-jet, zodiac, shawn, etc...

i heard on npr this morning that now that valu-jet is back in business, they
are offering one-way flights for $19.95.  does it strike anyone else as
morbidly ironic that they're only offering *one way* flights?  i can't wait
to hear what jay leno has to say about that...(g)

and for the record, i'm a typical aquarius...(and i love shawn colvin's
"get out of this house," (as well as "tennessee"), thank you very much!

peace and fridays,

joan :p

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 22:43:41 -0400
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from:         jendy <edwina@jax-inter.net>
subject:      re: astrological sign

i'm a libra too! and damn proud to be one! :)

jendy

>--reggi
>(a libra, who, by the way, was created last of all the signs to balance out
>all the rest!!  the only non-animal sign, without whom there would be chaos!!)
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         ten thousand tons of ice cream,
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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 22:50:30 -0400
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subject:      re: hit that rewind again, sister! (nigc)

damn!! too late!! ;)

jendy


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>i have heard if you do this too much you can go blind or grow hair on yer palms
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>just kiddin tee hee
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>susan  just plain ol susan
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         i'm going to scream..."

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subject:      re: favorite lesbian movie (sort of)

y'all, please!!!!
your first answer to your fav. les movie should obviosly be "boys on the
side"!!!!...........
well, i guess this doesn't really count as a "lesbian movie", but hey, it had
lesbian content and more importantly, the indigo girls!!!!!!
*lauren*
*************************************************"it is of immense importance
that we laugh at ourselves."  katharine mansfield (who does this sound like?)

"the state of the world today demands that women become less modest and
dream/plan/act/risk on a larger scale."  charlotte bunch

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subject:      re: astrological signs

okay, okay...i admit it!  i'm an in-the-closet aquarius!!!   :)  :)
i don't think i ever made it on the b-day list-- its 2-8-79  (yep, im a young
one...)
by the way...this whole ellen thing is so funny (lebanese--lol)
moe(simone)

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 23:29:32 -0400
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      nigc melanie's mall

        hi y'all...just thought i would share something with you...i was
watching some brain candy tv tonight (i share emily's view...music videos
really are simply fodder...) and was distracted by a rather disgusting
commercial for something called melanie's mall...it was a sticky, overt
attempt to sway young girls to feed their preconceived need to go to the
mall and shop...the toy had three levels of stores, a food court and a
working escalator...and just when i thought it couldn't get any worse, it
had a hang out place where they could meet a cute guy (my words but the
inference was clear nonetheless)...
        now i apologize for wasting so much bandwidth, but these commercials
just tick me off!!!  it's bad enough that barbie is still around with all
her "cute" outfits, but now they have a mall for her to go shopping
in...personally i think the toy industry is in the very deep pockets of the
right-wing and is trying to keep tomorrow's youth pigeonholed into
yesterday's roles...
        has anyone taken a walk through a toy store lately?  there are the
boy aisles and the girl aisles...yuck, yuck, yuck...anyway, thank goodness
my parents never subscribed to conventional pressures and allowed me both
"boy" and "girl" toys...i know, i know...any child can play with what they
choose, but the toy companies will still market them separately and society
will still view those of us who enjoy breaking their rules with scorn and
distrust...
        okay enough...i apologize again, but a recent sociology assignment
has made me too aware of a great many things...
        take care      jen

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