lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-09e


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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 00:03:52 -0400
reply-to:     lmd21@aol.com
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from:         lauren dick <lmd21@aol.com>
subject:      song that i skip

hey y'all-
  as i was thinking about what indigo girls songs that i skip, i realized
that i don't skip *any* of their songs, just one particular one that they
cover.  (this may be, of course, because i only have indigo girls on tape,
and not cd---i live in the stone age and just recently got a cd player)
the song the amy does that i cringe when i listen to is _all along the
watchtower_ .  it seems like amy is just screaming and not *singing*. (and
i'm an amy person)  other than that, i love all indigo girl songs!!!
*~lauren~*
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"it is of immense importance that we laugh at ourselves."  katharine
mansfield (who does this sound like? :))

"the state of the world today demands that women become less modest and
dream/plan/act/risk on a larger scale."  charlotte bunch

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 00:12:18 -0400
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from:         lauren dick <lmd21@aol.com>
subject:      lebanese  nigc

hey y'all-
  i am having a mental dilemma which is preventing me from writing a paper on
james longstreet for my us history class.  how do you pronounce "lebanese"?
is it leb ban neese, or le ban eese (long e at the end?)  i didn't get the
luxury of watching ellen on rosie (class), and this is driving me crazy!!!!


*~lauren~*  who happens to be having rosie withdrawl.....hey, wouldn't it be
cool if amy and em appeared on the show?
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"it is of immense importance that we laugh at ourselves."  katharine
mansfield (who does this sound like :)?)

"the state of the world today demands that women become less modest and
dream/plan/act/risk on a larger scale."  charlotte bunch

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 04:15:23 gmt
reply-to:     alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
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from:         alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>
subject:      re: nigc- the dead
x-to:         paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil

well...  pigpen was actually a drinker and not a druggy.  he once got
busted from a prank set up by one of ken kesey's merry pranksters, for whom
they were the house band, under the name "the warlocks".  the prankster
walked up and asked for a joint, and then got it and showed the cops.
jerry actually was first intro'd to acid by kesey, at least, so says "the
electric kool-aid acid test" and my buddy paul, who thinks i think that the
dead wrote not fade away.  i know they didn't paul, so there!

have a grateful day,

alec


she's got everything delightful, she's got everything i need
                         -sugar magnolia

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date:         fri, 27 sep 1996 22:05:08 -0700
reply-to:     k miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
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from:         k miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
subject:      re: lebanese  nigc
x-to:         lmd21@aol.com

how to pronounce lebanese?  like this: "lez-bee-uhn"

lauren dick wrote:
>
> hey y'all-
>   i am having a mental dilemma which is preventing me from writing a paper on
> james longstreet for my us history class.  how do you pronounce "lebanese"?
>  is it leb ban neese, or le ban eese (long e at the end?)  i didn't get the
> luxury of watching ellen on rosie (class), and this is driving me crazy!!!!
>
> *~lauren~*  who happens to be having rosie withdrawl.....hey, wouldn't it be
> cool if amy and em appeared on the show?
> *************************************************
>
> "it is of immense importance that we laugh at ourselves."  katharine
> mansfield (who does this sound like :)?)
>
> "the state of the world today demands that women become less modest and
> dream/plan/act/risk on a larger scale."  charlotte bunch
>
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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 00:07:56 -0700
reply-to:     pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
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from:         pamela shaw <sparkle@primenet.com>
subject:      bread and roses

i haven't been reading my mail much lately, so i don't know if word has been
going round about the bread and roses show at alcatraz.  i heard about it
from a dar williams mailing, and called immediately.  they had sold out 3
weeks ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

let the begging begin.....

does anyone have either an extra ticket, a ticket they would like to sell or
any info as to how i can get a ticket?????

any leads would be appreciated.  i am quite upset at my loss...

please!!!!  help!!!!

pamela

email me privately... sparkle@primenet.com

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 00:42:00 -0700
reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: favorite lesbian movie (sort of) nigc
x-to:         lauren dick <lmd21@aol.com>
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thank you so much lauren for including my favorite movie on this thread
of faves.  it could be considered a lesbian movie, but there is so much
left unspoken in that area.  for example: what exactly is the nature of
the relationship between jane & anna, since we all know that jane was in
love with mary louise parker (i must admit, so am i).  also, there is the
whole issue of anna's kids when jane moves in--the daughter loves her and
the son slams his bedroom door.  being the daughter of a lesbian myself i
would love to delve deeper into that tangent.  anyone else care to
discuss?

the lone coyote

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 08:38:45 -0400
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from:         lauren dick <lmd21@aol.com>
subject:      indigo experience at at the mall

hey y'all
  i had an interesting experience last night at the mall.  (i know, y'all
*gasp*  she was at the mall  on a friday night)  well yes, i was and i have
no life, but anyway, i went into musicland to get dar williams'  _the honesty
room_  and when i went up to the counter to buy it, the cashier (a guy) said
to me, "cool cd.  hey, i like your shirt.  where'd you get it?"  (i was
wearing my ig/hte shirt--thanks russ!)  then he said, "we've been playing
that cd (so) all day today in here."
how cool, if only i had walked in earlier!!!!

*~lauren~*
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"it is of immense importance that we laugh at ourselves." katharine mansfield
(who does this sound like?)

"the state of the world today demands that women become less modest and
dream/plan/act/risk on a larger scale."  charlotte bunch

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 14:38:32 +0100
reply-to:     juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
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from:         juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
subject:      astrological signs
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so ...aren't there really any other pisces out there????

...sounds kinda fishy to me!! :)

juliet.
<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>

ps. anyone know what signs a & e are??

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 10:34:09 -0400
reply-to:     problem child <warra5c0@numen.elon.edu>
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subject:      re: astrological poll?
x-to:         monet <monet@mo.net>
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on fri, 27 sep 1996, monet wrote:

> i'm a virgo....'nuf said ;)
>
> lisa
>
meee toooooo!!!    -mandy

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 12:45:52 edt
reply-to:     jen hall <jenhall@juno.com>
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subject:      re: amy ray's birth-year???

ok.  another pisces here!  i was sort of surprise i hadn't seen any
either.

as for the question of a&e's sign, i don't know (i don't follow
astrology), but here are their birth dates.

ex-compaq employee & a much shorter e-mail address <g>,
- jen hall

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>from andrews sarah <andrews@cs.concordia.ca>, on 6/2/96 10:52 pm:
to: <indigo-girls@netspace.org>

here's more detail than you could ever have wanted :)

  amy ray:        atlanta, ga,      april 12, 1964, 3:34pm
  emily saliers:  new haven, conn., july 22, 1963,  8:27am

go wild!
-sarah

hey, this reminds me - does anyone know what "tuesday's children/child"
refers to?  the reason i ask is that i had thought maybe a & e
were born on tuesdays, but neither was (you can do the calc yourself -
i forget what the actual days were :)).

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 13:31:11 -0400
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subject:      nigc - lesbian films

hey-

here's my contribution to this tread...

desert hearts - first one i had ever seen (but then again i doubt i'm alone
in this...) so this flik really has a special place in my heart

go fish - i hated it the first time, but grew a true appreciation for it just
recently upon my second viewing

bar girls & incredibly true...... - these movies just kill me with laughter
and "cuteness"  "incredibly true..." was so cute that i "allowed" to have my
14 & 16 year old female (currently straight) cousins...they saw the movie for
what it is...a great "first love" story, which my baby cousins know all about
these days....

everythings relative - i saw this movie here at the 1996 ny lesbian & gay
film festival.  excellent.  wonderful, beautiful dialogue.  it's kind of a
lesbian "big chill" in that a bunch of seven old college female friends (6
lesbian and 1 straight) are brought together to celebrate an event.  there is
a lot of history (romantic and otherwise) between these women which sets the
stage for future history making or at the very least an interesting present.
  it's due to be released wide i believe this fall/winter.  that's what the
producer/director said at the film fest.  cute chicks in the flik too.
please watch out for it.  although i will admit i saw this soon after i
broke up with my ex (sigh!) and found some scenes just a little too close to
home.

did anyone else see this film....you can e-mail me privately.

also i second a previous post recommending the flik "bound" i also saw that
in the ny l&gff.

peace love & understanding to one & all,
kate

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 12:06:38 -0400
reply-to:     neil johnson <njohnso@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
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from:         neil johnson <njohnso@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
subject:      re: astrological poll?
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don't worry, there are more of us out there than will admidt it.

on fri, 27 sep 1996, betsy bertiaux wrote:

> what,..... no one else is a  scorpio
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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 12:52:20 -0500
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subject:      ig on world cafe, 10/4

look ma!  igc!! :)

well, i was perusing through the guest list for upcoming world cafe shows
while working at the radio station i'm a slave, ahem, i mean a volunteer at
(only joking, i love my station) and two very familiar words caught my eye
for the october 4th show.  "indigo girls" it said.  nothing else, just those
two blessed words.  "indigo girls" (go ahead, roll them off your
tongue.....doesn't that just feel grand?  innnnnndigo girrrrrls :)  what's
this,  what's this, i thought??  what could they possibly be doing on the wc
right now?  there's no new ig cd to promote.  so maybe they're promoting
'honor'?  something else?  well, i guess i can wait until 10/4 to find out.
if they actually air it.  i have this bad feeling it's all some sort of
wretched mistake, a cruel joke played by david dye and the wc to tease
us.....well, anyway, we'll see.  so everyone who has cool community
public/radio stations in your area who air wc, tune in on oct 4th and see if
the girls actually are gonna be on.  if they are, i don't think it'll be a
re-broadcast, cause those come up in the schedule marked as such, and this
show wasn't.  oh, i'd be really grateful if someone (or several someones)
would try to get this on tape, because if they are actually gonna be on, i
won't hear it due to our station fund drive occuring during that week.
which reminds me:
support your local community radio!!!! (if they're cool, that is, and you
feel they contribute something to your life).  listener support is sooooo
important to stations, most just _barely_ surviving from month to month (and
are most likely getting little to no government help because of our
congress/gov't who deems arts spending as disposible and
non-essential........) if you don't know your local community station, get
to know it, see if it's something you'd want to help stay on the air by
donating time or money.....most likely it will be.  there's pretty good odds
that it'll be playing better music than any commercial station you can hear
(we play ig all the time.  and lots of other artists that keep popping up
here.  how many commercial stations do you know who can say that?)  okay,
i'll get off my box now, that's my psa for today.  if you got this far,
thanks for reading.  (heh heh...i had to throw in some nigc _somewhow_,
didn't i?)

radioactively,
cylinda
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and the power of two"
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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 13:52:35 -0400
reply-to:     renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
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subject:      re: astrological poll?
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.960928103356.12748e-100000@numen.elon.edu>

well, like amy, i'm an aries....


renee

* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

"the same sun that warms your heart    "the beautiful ladies walk right by
will suck the good earth dry..."       ya know i never know what to say!"
       "get out the map"                       "shame on you"
        by emily saliers                        by amy ray

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 14:24:13 -0400
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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
subject:      re: best non-lyric quotes

one i really like is from new orleans jazz fest this year after "don't give
that girls a gun" :

amy:  emily was playin bass on that one.  yeah yeah
emily: we all  keep learning instruments we don't know how to play
amy: sara lee's on tour with ani difranco.  we call her up every day and say
"emily learned to play bass today!!!!!!!!!"
emily: come back, come back

sasha

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 14:36:19 -0400
reply-to:     andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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subject:      the list

with all of this talk about unneccessary postings, length of postings,
signatures, etc., i felt that i had to give my opinion.  i have to say,
that i love this list.  i like reading everyone's comments, whether they
have igc or not.  i look forward to coming back to my room & reading my ig
mail!  i did have to change to the digest version b/c the hundreds of
separate postings were cluttering my mailbox, but i don't think that it's a
pain to scroll through everything.  if i want to read a post, i do.
otherwise, it takes me an extra couple of seconds to scroll through it.
for everyone who is sick of their mailbox being cluttered, i recommend
switching to the digest version. on the subject of unnecessary posting, i
think that this applies: "one person't garbage is another person's
treasure," or however the saying goes. what i think is worth posting may
seem unnecessary to another person.  the astrological stuff may seem
unnecessary, but i think it's kinda cool.  :)  and about signatures, i have
to say that i love them.  i identify most people who post a lot, not by
their names, but by their signatures.  and, i happen to enjoy reading sigs
a few times.  i'm sorry that my sig is especially long, but i happen to
like it that way. that's just my $.02!  don't hate me for having an
opinion... :)

andi

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         check out my new webpage, which has nothing too exciting
          on it yet, but will definitely be cool in the future:
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                    "it feels funny being free."-ar

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 11:50:18 -0500
reply-to:     tracy - home home home home <clumber@smtp.prostar.com>
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subject:      sigc: party at kim's !!!

chickensoprano sang out (in reply to myself):

>> ps kim really is waaaaay cool irl... so feel free, all 800+ of you, to
>> really harass her about getting together with her public. actually, i >>
think we should just give up and hold a party at her place.

>cool!  so who's gonna pay for my plane ticket?  <now
>wearing pitiful expression of a deeply indebted college
>student>
>
>;)
        well... i am pretty sure that with the exchange rate it would be a
nearly free ticket so i am sure kim wouldn't mind getting tics for
everyone... (anyone else noting that kim must be away from her email in
order for this to be going on???)
        so who's bringing the grape nuts?

tracy <who, with jeni, have decided to get a "partridge family" style bus
for the trip.. of course we'll decorate it as an abba bus... after we cross
the border that is...>

"so your character may be functioning as a lesbian?"
                -- paraphrased from a poor memory after rotflmao, david letterman
interviewing ellen  25 sept 1996

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 16:57:41 -0400
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from:         margot laidacker <margotll@aol.com>
subject:      re: song that i skip
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in a message dated 96-09-28 00:13:11 edt, lmd21@aol.com (lauren dick) writes:

>the song the amy does that i cringe when i listen to is _all along the
>watchtower_ .  it seems like amy is just screaming and not *singing*.

oddly enough, that song is my favorite ig cover ever (besides tangled up in
blue)!
i love the roughness of their version, and i love that song!!!

-margot

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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 14:50:51 -0700
reply-to:     kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      boys on the side nigc fave lezzie flicks
x-to:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.pmdf.3.91.960928003705.14950b-100000@axe.humboldt.edu>

hi lone, i watched this film recently and came to the conclusion that
there must have been some editing. i would like to see the author's
script as i am sure there would have been at least one more beat in the
jane - anna story thread. the subtext while mary-louise is gardening,
when she tells jane to get out, is very moving, you get the sense she
really does know way down in her subconscious how jane feels about her
but her anger won't let her even toy with that reality. instead she tells
jane she is foolish and you're never sure whether she means for being in
love with anna or being in love with her. this "unspoken" devotion tugs
at your heart strings and they should have kissed when mary louise was
trying to say the "c" word out loud...i was waiting for it..i wanted it
to happen. aaahhh. any way, the ig were fab. peace, kim (n.v.)

>for example: what exactly is the nature of
> the relationship between jane & anna, since we all know that jane was in
> love with mary louise parker (i must admit, so am i).  also, there is the
> whole issue of anna's kids when jane moves in--the daughter loves her and
> the son slams his bedroom door.  being the daughter of a lesbian myself i
> would love to delve deeper into that tangent.  anyone else care to
> discuss?
>
> the lone coyote
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date:         sat, 28 sep 1996 14:58:00 -0700
reply-to:     kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      re: astrological signs
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>p.s anyone know what signs a + e are?


emily - b.d. july 22, 1963
amy - b.d. april 12th, 1964

i guess that would make e a cancer(?) and a a taurus (?) is that right?

peace, kim (n.v.) b.d. august 22 19--, a leo

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excerpts from mail: 28-sep-96 re: astrological signs by kimberly
hobbs@vcn.bc.ca
> emily - b.d. july 22, 1963
> amy - b.d. april 12th, 1964
>
> i guess that would make e a cancer(?) and a a taurus (?) is that right?
>

cancer and aries!!!!!!!!!!

renee

* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

"the same sun that warms your heart    "the beautiful ladies walk right by
will suck the good earth dry..."       ya know i never know what to say!"
       "get out the map"                       "shame on you"
        by emily saliers                        by amy ray

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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      nigc - sister my sister - lezzie flicks

hey indigirls/guys,

someone recommended "sister my sister" as a good lesbian flick sooo, i
rented it and i must say.... phew.. has someone turned the heat up? if
you can get past the sister bit ( just pretend it is johdi may and joely
richardson in real life, and they live in an attic and only come out for
water and sustenance and you'll be fine). i was absolutely blown away by
this film, the cinematography was mentioned last week and it is true, the
film is stunningly shot. written, directed and produced by women, as for
the cinematographer, it depends upon whether ashley rowe is a man or a
woman, but chances are it's a woman. inspirational filmmaking. go out an
rent this film!! peace, kim (n.v.)

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subject:      rolling stone 10/17

hello all .... just a bit of igc ....

in the october 17th issue of rolling stone there's a caption on page 28 under
the picture of the band goldfinger @ bumbershoot reading:

... largest turnout (25,000) went to the indigo girls, who caught a peek of
their army of rabid fans just before taking the stage. in perfect unison they
said, "oh, fuck!" ...

army of rabid fans, eh ?????????

chris (still dubbing these nyc boots like a mad-woman !!!!!!!!!!!!!0

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subject:      re: song that i skip
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i totally agree! if i want to hear good singing i'll go listen to joan
baez. if i want to hear emotion,artistry and passion i'll listen to amy.
also, amy doesn't scream she growls! oh god i love her!
ben

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renee l grebe wrote:
>
> excerpts from mail: 28-sep-96 re: astrological signs by kimberly
> hobbs@vcn.bc.ca
> > emily - b.d. july 22, 1963
> > amy - b.d. april 12th, 1964
>
> cancer and aries!!!!!!!!!!
> renee
>

...and amy's birthday is just one day after mine, yeehaw!!!!

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subject:      nigc astrological poll

        hi y'all...thought i would jump on this bandwagon...
                capricorn!!!!
                        jen

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subject:      re: the list (nigc, but ig list content...)
x-to:         andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01540b19ae72e893d74e@[130.91.233.114]>

andrea, i think you put your point very eloquently and i whole-heartedly
agree!  it does get frustrating at times, especially when things get a
little silly for my taste (all who know me know that it's tough to get too
silly for gwen...).  but i do enjoy the looseness and casual attitude of
this list...
if it makes y'all feel any better, the other mailing list i'm on is way
more stressed out today than we are...i think it's the full moon.

on sat, 28 sep 1996, andrea lipman wrote:

> with all of this talk about unneccessary postings, length of postings,
> signatures, etc., i felt that i had to give my opinion.  i have to say,
> that i love this list.  i like reading everyone's comments, whether they
> have igc or not.  i look forward to coming back to my room & reading my ig
> mail!  i did have to change to the digest version b/c the hundreds of
> separate postings were cluttering my mailbox, but i don't think that it's a
> pain to scroll through everything.  if i want to read a post, i do.
> otherwise, it takes me an extra couple of seconds to scroll through it.
> for everyone who is sick of their mailbox being cluttered, i recommend
> switching to the digest version. on the subject of unnecessary posting, i
> think that this applies: "one person't garbage is another person's
> treasure," or however the saying goes. what i think is worth posting may
> seem unnecessary to another person.  the astrological stuff may seem
> unnecessary, but i think it's kinda cool.  :)  and about signatures, i have
> to say that i love them.  i identify most people who post a lot, not by
> their names, but by their signatures.  and, i happen to enjoy reading sigs
> a few times.  i'm sorry that my sig is especially long, but i happen to
> like it that way. that's just my $.02!  don't hate me for having an
> opinion... :)
>
> andi
>
>   -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
>                               andrea lipman
>                        e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
>          check out my new webpage, which has nothing too exciting
>           on it yet, but will definitely be cool in the future:
>                    http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman
>
>         "if i have a care in the world i have a gift to bring."-es
>
>                     "it feels funny being free."-ar
>
>           "celebrate we will. because life is short but sweet for
>                                certain."-dm
>   _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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from:         amy jo snyder <indiamy@aol.com>
subject:      re: chickenman and tmf socs

hi y'all,
  i know that some of you thought i dropped off the face of the earth....i
have not.  lots of things going on in my life lately that just took me away.
well i'm back and things are coming along well.  it looks like my summer
project has turned into a fall one.  anyway, i am asking one final time for
the following tapes that i would like to include.  i know they are out there.
please help me, us, out.  i'm looking for:

1.portland  12/8/94
2.dartmouth 4/18/95
3.great woods  7/1/94
4.northrup aud  7/17/94
5.troutdale 8/18/94
6.athens,oh  4/12/95

  this will be the last time i ask for these tapes.  if i don't hear from
anyone by october 4th they won't be included.  i am more than willing to set
up a trade - i have a pretty good boot collection.  i will send blanks.  i
will do whatever i need to do [within reason  :)  ] to get these socs
included.  e-mail me privately if you are able to help out with the above
tapes.  thanx for your time.  take it easy.

  on another note, i don't listen to midnight train to georgia either.  it is
the only ig song that i don't like.  i do take consolation in the fact that
it isn't really an ig song anyway.

peace,
amy

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subject:      nigc lesbian films

>everythings relative - i saw this movie here at the 1996 ny lesbian
& gay
>film festival.  excellent.  wonderful, beautiful dialogue.  it's
kind of a
>lesbian "big chill" in that a bunch of seven old college female
friends (6
>lesbian and 1 straight) are brought together to celebrate an event.

i neglected to mention this film in my previous post.  i just saw it
and it is pretty good.  it is out in los angeles and it will be
out across the country, but you really have to watch for it.
i believe it is being self-distributed!

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subject:      fans...

>... largest turnout (25,000) went to the indigo girls, who caught a
peek of
>their army of rabid fans just before taking the stage. in perfect
unison they
>said, "oh, fuck!" ...

that quote from the 10/17 issue of rolling stone sums up that
magazine's view of ig.  rolling stone recently put out an
encyclopedia of music and in the ig section they see 3
things make ig successful, their harmonies, their lyrics, and
their very loyal fans.

we fans are getting a reputation for being among the most
passionate in pop music.  i say let's keep it up!!!!!!!!

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subject:      (nigc) public radio!

i join cylinda in celebrating listener-supported public radio.  as someone
who also worked as a slave, er i mean intern (for 2 years!) at a college public
radio station, i became quite familiar with the whole concept.  the whole
experience really exposed me to all kinds of music that i would not have
otherwise heard on commercial radio.  of course, i always hated my board shifts
on weeknights cause it was always the symphony (yuk), but the weekends provided
exposure to folk, celtic, bluegrass, and ultra-cool shows like "mountain
stage" (which i had the opportunity to attend live...since the station was
a couple of hours away from the theatre), "lonesome pine special," and others.
working at that station and going to college where i did planted a lot of
seeds in me that a few years later began to germinate. (i'm a late
bloomer, i guess...and an amateur comic too)<ggg>  anyway, as cylinda so
skillfully pointed out, the quality of the programming that those stations
provide depends on the amount of listener contributions.  shows like mountain
stage cost money to carry.  and with the threat of cuts in the federal budget,
giving is even more crucial now.  same goes for public television.  i mean,
what would we do without "austin city limits," and other great musical
programming, as well as all the great documentaries on pbs?  cylinda's
right, a lot of the programming on commercial radio and tv sucks.  we all
listen to public stations (i need npr's "morning edition" and "all things
considered" like i need air), but we take them for granted.  we think they'll
always be there.  let's give a few bucks during their next pledge drive and
ensure that they are.

peace and public broadcasting,

joan :)

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subject:      (nigc) lebanese, libyans, etc. etc.

lauren asked how "lebanese" was pronounced.  i believe it's leb' uh neez
(least that's how i've always said/heard it)  anyway, when i first heard
about that i was rotflmao, thinking that ellen was borrowing a term from
mtv's beavis & butthead.  but then i got to thinking, b&b mistakenly call
lesbians "libyans" (pronounced lib' ee uns)!  just like they mistakenly
refer to bisexuals as "bilateral"  but given the nature of the government of
libya, i would imagine someone saying they're lebanese would go over a little
better among the "uninitiated" than saying they were libyan...

joan :)

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subject:      non-musical favorite quote

don't we have a thread going on about our fave non-musical quote?  if we
are - great.  if we're not, please excuse me - i live in houston and my
brain is turning to rot.

anyway, my favorite non-musical quote....

        "moo"  - e. saliers 1200curfews

(come on people!!!  i can't belive no one has said this!!!)

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subject:      nigc:  more anti-gay trash (yes, more nigc)
x-to:         dperkins@coa1.ci.austin.tx.us

over that past week, we've been discussing ellen degeneres's character
"ellen" coming out of the closet.  i don't know how many people subscribe
to the tv guide, but here is one paragraph that really caught my eye and
proved to me, once again, how god damn stupid and ignorant people are.

"the 'ellen' news drew immediate fire from the american family
association.  in a statement last week, afa founder donald wildmon said,
'this is a troubling movement in network programming.  if touchstone does
do this, advertisers will now have to make a choice.  either withdraw
their support of the show or reveal their true allegiances to themes
which gnaw at traditional family values.' "

i just don't know what to say.  as a heterosexual, i can't help but feel
the need to apologize on behalf of the ignorant assholes who think in
this manner.  as much as people say that we shouldn't be a divided nation
(world), we will always continue to be because of people like this.  and
that's a shame.  i'm sure there are many families of gays & lesbians that
would to dispute mr. wildman's finding that homosexuality "gnaw(s) at
traditional family values".

the paragraph after that mentioned heat coming from religious groups.
now, i'm not a religious person by any means, but how come when it comes
to homosexuality, the bible bangers come out in full force against it,
but when the topic is capital punishment, they are all against the
execution of the "human being" a.k.a skum.  isn't "and eye for an eye" in
the bible?   i always thought religious people followed the bible page
for page - - - not pick and choose what they do and don't want to
support.  i think the bible bangers should follow the amish...just keep
to themselves and make their own life the way they want and leave
everyone else alone.

why should advertisers base their advertisement dollars on the main
characters sexual preferenc?  here, we are confusing business with
personal opinion.  so does this mean that any advertiser that supports
"ellen" would be banned from, say, advertising on the super bowl?  where
will this bullshit end?

what makes a family?  love, commitment, understanding, honesty,
friendship, and other nice things that i can't think of cause i'm pissed
off.  so, what they're saying is that gay and lesbians aren't any of
these things.  ya know, cause if they were, they wouldn't be in anyone's
family.  cause, afterall, how can anybody love a gay person?  i mean
really?  a gay person?  well, i'll tell ya what.  i have met some of you
on this list that are gay or lesbians. i have e-mailed many of you
personally.  i have my own friends and (ex) co-workers that are
gay/lesbian - - and you're / they're great folks.  i've love to have any
one of you / them in my house, sharing my food, sharing a hug, walking my
dog, and - by all means - dusting my house <grin > !!!  what i'm saying
is that everyone is capable of those things i've mentioned.  everyone.
hey, if those conservative, bible bangers, anti-gay or lesbian, etc.
people don't want to associate with gays or lesbians - - fine.  their
loss.

back your regularly scheduled programming...
- jen hall

p.s. oh, by the way.  should any of you wish to write tv guide to view
your opinion, you can write to:

letters department
tv guide
padnor, pa 19099

please keep in mind that the quoted material was a statment made by the
founder of afa - - not the opinion of tv guide.

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subject:      re: (nigc) lebanese, libyans, etc. etc.

danny thomas was one.


speaking of lebanese...i have been noticing with great interest the
media whirl surrounding the ellen thang.....with  her appearences
on talk shows playing it up in a coy way...it certainly has gotten the
show a lot of attention....greeeeat publicity (even if the am fam folks
are all in a tizzy...)

but..you know.....

i can't help but feel a teensy bit manipulated....i mean either do it or
don't, but don't work me. jeez ellen...i guess that's showbiz....

binkles

"johnny cheated, frankie killed him,
            shot and killed him..
                    i don't blame her...
                                 i'd of done it too..." (laura nyro)

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subject:      nigc-ellen

binky wrote...

>>>>>>speaking of lebanese...i have been noticing with great interest
the media whirl surrounding the ellen thang.....with  her appearences
on talk shows playing it up in a coy way...it certainly has gotten
the show a lot of attention....greeeeat publicity (even if the am fam
folks are all in a tizzy...)

but..you know.....

i can't help but feel a teensy bit manipulated....i mean either do it
or don't, but don't work me. jeez ellen...i guess that's showbiz....
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


i definitely agree....

it's almost like a supreme court nomination where the white house
"floats" a nominees name to see the reaction.  they (the producers)
drop the hints on the show and then send ellen degeneres around on a
press tour of ny shows (rosie, conan, dave).  what show do they think
they are?  "spin city"

flame away my little flamethrowers.....

love, peace & pr,

melissa

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subject:      re: ig on world cafe

howdy all!

does anyone have a tape of ig when they were on world cafe previously =
('94 maybe??) ? we saw the transcript in lifeblood, but would love a =
tape of it! thanks in advance.

peace,
susan and jocelyn

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subject:      re: ig on world cafe, 10/4

hi again!,

if anybody is going to tape this, could we set up a tape tree - we live =
in the barren (ig who??) plains, and the only thing our public radio =
stations play is classical and blues (which we like, but come on, have =
some variety! have some ig!!) anyway - if anyone does get world cafe, we =
second cylinda's request for a tape please oh please oh please!

peace,
susan and jocelyn

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from:   cylinda parga[smtp:ccp5913@tam2000.tamu.edu]
sent:   saturday, september 28, 1996 12:52 pm
to:     multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
subject:        ig on world cafe, 10/4

look ma!  igc!! :)

well, i was perusing through the guest list for upcoming world cafe =
shows
while working at the radio station i'm a slave, ahem, i mean a volunteer =
at
(only joking, i love my station) and two very familiar words caught my =
eye
for the october 4th show.  "indigo girls" it said.  nothing else, just =
those
two blessed words.  "indigo girls" (go ahead, roll them off your
tongue.....doesn't that just feel grand?  innnnnndigo girrrrrls :)  =
what's
this,  what's this, i thought??  what could they possibly be doing on =
the wc
right now?  there's no new ig cd to promote.  so maybe they're promoting
'honor'?  something else?  well, i guess i can wait until 10/4 to find =
out.
if they actually air it.  i have this bad feeling it's all some sort of
wretched mistake, a cruel joke played by david dye and the wc to tease
us.....well, anyway, we'll see.  so everyone who has cool community
public/radio stations in your area who air wc, tune in on oct 4th and =
see if
the girls actually are gonna be on.  if they are, i don't think it'll be =
a
re-broadcast, cause those come up in the schedule marked as such, and =
this
show wasn't.  oh, i'd be really grateful if someone (or several =
someones)
would try to get this on tape, because if they are actually gonna be on, =
i
won't hear it due to our station fund drive occuring during that week.
which reminds me:
support your local community radio!!!! (if they're cool, that is, and =
you
feel they contribute something to your life).  listener support is =
sooooo
important to stations, most just _barely_ surviving from month to month =
(and
are most likely getting little to no government help because of our
congress/gov't who deems arts spending as disposible and
non-essential........) if you don't know your local community station, =
get
to know it, see if it's something you'd want to help stay on the air by
donating time or money.....most likely it will be.  there's pretty good =
odds
that it'll be playing better music than any commercial station you can =
hear
(we play ig all the time.  and lots of other artists that keep popping =
up
here.  how many commercial stations do you know who can say that?)  =
okay,
i'll get off my box now, that's my psa for today.  if you got this far,
thanks for reading.  (heh heh...i had to throw in some nigc _somewhow_,
didn't i?)

radioactively,
cylinda
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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 08:46:34 -0700
reply-to:     kristina <andrade@az.com>
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from:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
subject:      re: rs caption/bumbershoot
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> in the september 17th issue of rolling stone there's a caption on page 28
> under the picture of the band goldfinger @ bumbershoot reading:

> ... largest turnout (25,000) went to the indigo girls, who caught a peek of
> their army of rabid fans just before taking the stage. in perfect unison
> they said, "oh, fuck!" ...

hahahahaha, i love it! they really did seem surprised by the sheer number
of us. it looked like there were a million people in there.  all i want to
know is why didn't they print a photo of the girls? it seems so stoopid
(but somehow typical) for them to mention a&e but show a picture of a
different band. du-uh. oh well. sniffle. thanks for typing that in :)

rabidly yours,
kristina

p.s. funny, my kitty needs to go in for her rabies shot on monday!

p.p.s. the ig rabid fan army is the only army i would ever enlist for :)
actually, they're the only army that would want me. ha!

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 12:34:53 -0400
reply-to:     tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
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subject:      girls on nbc!!!!! read now!

the girls will be chatting at 1 pm today!!! go to:
www.msnbc.com/news/26875.asp   for more info, or put your irc client to:
131.107.1.68   and join channel #msnbc

to chat with a & e!!!!!!!!!!!!

cya there! happy indigo day!
tiff

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 12:38:31 -0400
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subject:      sorry!

uh... i have to apologize.  i went in to chat, and unfortunately, due to
scheduling problems, the girls arent gonna chat. damn, that just rained on
my parade... sorry all. :o)

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 11:59:00 -0700
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: non-musical favorite quote
x-to:         jen hall <jenhall@juno.com>
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on sun, 29 sep 1996, jen hall wrote:
>
> anyway, my favorite non-musical quote....
>
>         "moo"  - e. saliers 1200curfews
>
> (come on people!!!  i can't belive no one has said this!!!)


hee, hee! lol!!  i love that one, it is so silly!  thank you for
reminding me.  i forget sometimes because i listen to disc 1 more often
than disc 2, which reminds me to ask, does anyone else prefer one curfews
disc over the other?  just curious.  =)

the lone coyote

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 18:09:49 +0000
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subject:      nigc - interesting new band?

hey!


does anyone out there know anythign about a band called 'frankly
scarlet'?
i'm told that they're kind of ig/sheryl crow-ish.

andrew

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 12:07:46 -0800
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      lesbian movies (nigc)

well, on the subject of lesbian movies,  antonia's line, although not a
total lesbian film,  has a lesbian in it. and it's my favorite movie of all
time!!!! so everyone should see it.  it's a foreign (european) film, and
i'm not sure if it's on video yet.  but it's so great.  it's about this
woman, antonia, her daughter (the lesbian), her daughter, and her daugher.
4 generations of women.  i won't tell you anymore, cause you should all see
it, and i don't want to ruin it.  so, once again, hee hee,  go see it!!!

peace, love, and caffeine withdrawal,
sundara, who for some reason, unbeknownst to her, put on lipstick this
morning, something she hasn't done since her scary big-hair high school
days:)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 12:15:00 -0700
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      nigc--that whole traditional family thing....

when i read jen's post about the afa quote from tv guide i just had to
put my $.02 in--even though i know y'all are advocates....

those people who think homosexuality gnaws away (or whatever they said)
at traditional family values have never met my family.  my mom came from
a physically/emotionally/sexually abusive "traditional" family but was
able to show my sister and me a loving, stable, caring, accepting home
with her partner, my step-mom.  i learned more about family values from
them and their love and honesty than most of my friends learned from
their opposite-sex parental figures.

i don't know if this makes sense, but for any sisters out there raising
kids, way to go! and we grown kids of lesbians are behind you 100%.

the lone coyote

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subject:      re: non-musical favorite quote
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on mon, 30 sep 1996, marianne barlow wrote:

> hee, hee! lol!!  i love that one, it is so silly!  thank you for
> reminding me.  i forget sometimes because i listen to disc 1 more often
> than disc 2, which reminds me to ask, does anyone else prefer one curfews
> disc over the other?  just curious.  =)
>
> the lone coyote
>
like the coyote here, i also like disc 1 of 1200c better than disc 2.  i
just love the covers on it.  river is such a beautiful song, and emily
really does it so well, don't you all jsut want to skate away on a river?

veronica


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        on a kind of a telephone line through time
        the voice at the other end comes like a long-lost friend

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 12:31:06 -0700
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subject:      press kits

hey listers!

sorry for the igc.  :)  as a non-official representative of the faq
compilers, i have a big request for the list.  i was hoping that some people
out there might have copies of the press kits.  i would like to get at least
one copy of each of them (i assume there is one per major release).  i would
prefer electronic copies, but if someone could make photocopies and mail
them to me, that would be great too.  i think that our faq could definitely
be enhanced by using the official information from the kits as much as possible.

so anyone who has copies of any of the press kits, please e-mail me directly
(do not respond to the list!) and let me know what you have.  thanks in
advance for your help in this important task!

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"you can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets,
or you can realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself
makes much more sense to live in the present tense" - pearl jam

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 12:56:42 -0700
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: nigc:  more anti-gay trash (yes, more nigc)
x-to:         jen hall <jenhall@juno.com>
in-reply-to:  <19960929.013701.9455.0.jenhall@juno.com>

hmmm, this is truly sad and distressing.  but, not surprising.  if the
show does decide to let ellen out of the closet, they will be making a
very bold political move, and bold political moves by anyone in an
election year get blown way out of proportion.


but please don't make the mistake of lumping all "religious people"
together the way those opposed to homosexuality try to do with "gay
people" (or for that matter, like those of us who try to be enlightened by
making decisions according to who we like as friends : "i have a friend
who is <black, gay, other minority group>, i think they are great").  just
like any other demographic out there, there are religious people who are
open minded and accepting, and those who are shitheads.

some religious sects are againdst homosexuality (i happen to be a part of
a church that was one of the first to ordain openly gay priests, and one
of the first to try to include the blessing of same-sex unions into the
liturgy).  some are against capital punishment, some are in favor of it.
but whatever the convictions, there are always hypocrites and other humans
among them.  just don't write off religious people on the basis of the few
that ruin it for the rest of us.
and technically, "eye for an eye" was replaced by christ with "turn the
other cheek".
just some food for thought...

>
> the paragraph after that mentioned heat coming from religious groups.
> now, i'm not a religious person by any means, but how come when it comes
> to homosexuality, the bible bangers come out in full force against it,
> but when the topic is capital punishment, they are all against the
> execution of the "human being" a.k.a skum.  isn't "and eye for an eye" in
> the bible?   i always thought religious people followed the bible page
> for page - - - not pick and choose what they do and don't want to
> support.  i think the bible bangers should follow the amish...just keep
> to themselves and make their own life the way they want and leave
> everyone else alone.
>
> why should advertisers base their advertisement dollars on the main
> characters sexual preferenc?  here, we are confusing business with
> personal opinion.  so does this mean that any advertiser that supports
> "ellen" would be banned from, say, advertising on the super bowl?  where
> will this bullshit end?
>
> what makes a family?  love, commitment, understanding, honesty,
> friendship, and other nice things that i can't think of cause i'm pissed
> off.  so, what they're saying is that gay and lesbians aren't any of
> these things.  ya know, cause if they were, they wouldn't be in anyone's
> family.  cause, afterall, how can anybody love a gay person?  i mean
> really?  a gay person?  well, i'll tell ya what.  i have met some of you
> on this list that are gay or lesbians. i have e-mailed many of you
> personally.  i have my own friends and (ex) co-workers that are
> gay/lesbian - - and you're / they're great folks.  i've love to have any
> one of you / them in my house, sharing my food, sharing a hug, walking my
> dog, and - by all means - dusting my house <grin > !!!  what i'm saying
> is that everyone is capable of those things i've mentioned.  everyone.
> hey, if those conservative, bible bangers, anti-gay or lesbian, etc.
> people don't want to associate with gays or lesbians - - fine.  their
> loss.
>
> back your regularly scheduled programming...
>  - jen hall
>
> p.s. oh, by the way.  should any of you wish to write tv guide to view
> your opinion, you can write to:
>
> letters department
> tv guide
> padnor, pa 19099
>
> please keep in mind that the quoted material was a statment made by the
> founder of afa - - not the opinion of tv guide.
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subject:      nigc: who sings 'i kissed a girl'?

hi all,

sorry for the nigc but this has been driving me and my so crazy.  we got a
wav of part of the song 'i kissed a girl' and are really wanting to hear the
whole song but no one seems to know who sings it.  even the person who sent
the wav didn't know.  i figured someone out there must know!! please!!  i am
hoping!!!

drop me an email if you do, i would really appreciate it!

pat
wingstar@mulberry.com

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subject:      danielle howle in portland; shawn colvin (nigc)

hi everyone!  i'm going to be at the danielle howle show tonight in
portland...any other listees going to be there?  oh yeah, i saw shawn
colvin a week ago today and she was great...if anyone wants details,
e-mail me back!

gregg

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 16:03:57 -0400
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subject:      re: nigc: who sings 'i kissed a girl'?
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the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack

on sun, 29 sep 1996, pat & shelly wrote:

> hi all,
>
> sorry for the nigc but this has been driving me and my so crazy.  we got a
> wav of part of the song 'i kissed a girl' and are really wanting to hear the
> whole song but no one seems to know who sings it.  even the person who sent
> the wav didn't know.  i figured someone out there must know!! please!!  i am
> hoping!!!
>
> drop me an email if you do, i would really appreciate it!
>
> pat
> wingstar@mulberry.com
>
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subject:      ig hte review

i have a friend who went to the ig hte concert in minneapolis. he sent
me his review - thought i'd share it with the list. (apologies in advance
if this has been already done, but i've been on vacation and have been sorting
through my email...that's about a week old.)

n.

this is my own personal review of the indigo girls "honor" cd release
concert from sept 19. i hope you all enjoy it.

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well here is my review of the honor the earth show from last friday
night.

let me just say that i wasn't aware of how much or how little the indigo
girls would particapate musically in this show. i came expecting seeing
and hearing bands that i might have not heard otherwise. northrup
auditorium is a very nice house. it definitly looks like it was designed
for stage presentations more than a concert but it has a nice feel. the
evening started off with words from tom goldtooth of the indigenous
environmental network. he announced that ulali would not be in attendance
but they would proced as otherwise scheduled. they included the
slideshow/ multimedia presentation that went along with ulali's all my
relations.

keith secola and the wild band of indians came on next. keith and his
band put on a nice short of material which included native american
tribal dances performed off the side of the stage. amy came out for one song
and was greated with a thunderous ovation.

rose main from the little rocky mountains, fort bellnap reservation
introduced the duo frank hyde and mike jones. frank and mike make some
good music but their set was a bit tedious to listen to after the first
few songs. if i remember this correctly frank and mike are cousins. frank
plays guitar using a stub of a right arm. he has fashioned a device to
allow him to pick and strum on the guitar, which he does quite well...i was
awed with his ability. like i mentioned...their set was tediously to long
so it diminished the enjoyment of what they did on stage a bit.

greg zephier of the yankton lakota nation introduced the band indigenous.
greg is the father of 3/4 of the band and his brother plays conga's.
indigenous is a blues based rock band with very hard leanings to stevie
ray vaughn and that kind of texas blues genre. they played a very hard
driving set of tunes which due to its rock nature was a bit of an eye
opener after frank hyde and mike jones's set. indigenous's lead guitarist
had some great stage presence which included playing behind the head and
back and with the teeth. they did a cover of jimi hendrix's voodoo child
(slight return) that almost ripped the roof off. it will be nice to see
these guys go on to some recognition with some radio airplay. they
already win blues festivals so this might be their big break.

after the intermission chris peters of the seventh generation fund
discussed his groups purpose and introduced sherman alexie and jim boyd.
sherman is a spoken word artist whose material contains humor but gets a
point across. jim boyd is a fine singer and guitarist who added lyrical
and musical punch to sherman's work. sherman left the stage after a few
pieces and jim boyd proceded with his own solo work for a couple of
songs. one of these included a little audience particapation that was fun
to do and had everyone singing.

dune lankard of the eyak rainforest preservation fund came out and gave
the purposes of his group and then introduced bruce cockburn. i've never
seen bruce live but i have always appreciated his music. i was a bit
surprised by how many had no knowledge of who he was or his music. i'll
have to digress and say that i shook hands with the man during a cd
signing early in the day and noticed how his eyes just brightened when i
told him how much had enjoyed his music over the years. there are things
you will never forget and that reaction was one of them (along with my
deer in the headlights look i know i had when my picture was snapped
standing behind amy and emily). bruce put on a very nice set of material
which included a couple of new things for an upcoming album. i was
dismayed that he didn't play kit carson since it fit with purpose of the
show but i ain't complaining to much.

winona laduke of the indigenous womens network (and vice presidentual
candidate of the green party) came out to discuss the purposes of her
organization and of the honor the earth tour/organization. she then,
through thunderous applause, introduced the girls.  the girls played a
short set of material culled from past albums and the new material they
are working on in the studio. they also performed "blood quantum" from
the "honor" cd and it wasn't to bad. i enjoyed getting the chance to hear
get out the map, don't give that girl a gun, and others that will be on the
next release (sorry..didn't write down all of the newer songs so i can't
give you a list of what all they played). i will say i look forward to
the next album very much. they mentioned that they will be on tour next
spring in support of the next album and will be doing more honor the
earth dates perhaps next summer. they also said they are still working
with the material in studio so its not completely in the can and ready
for mixing down.

all in all the show was great. there were things that drew away from its
enjoyment but those were not bad enough to make things unenjoyable. the
fact that this show was a benefit to organizations that most of us
probably are not aware of in our daily routines would probably leave a
bad taste in some folks mouth who came just to see the girls perform.

in the end i would like to thank my friends peg and susan who invited me up
for this show. with out them i would have had to just read about this
show. driving 10 hours to see a show is a differant experience to me but
i would do it again should i get offered the chance.


max...

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subject:      some people...

i was just listening to 1200 curfews and i just wanted to bring up something
that really bothers me.  just before galileo,  a&e are talking about the
possibility that maybe galileo "could be a cow somewhere" and whatnot. then
out of nowhere  you here this guy in the crowd scream, "just sing!"  that
makes me so mad that someone would have the gall to do that.  it is just
plain rude and it pisses me off everytime that i listen to the album.  as
soon as he say it they start playing and it seems as if they actually
listened to him.  i am sure that isn' t the case but it sounds that way.
the nerve of some people.  maybe it is just me and he doesn't say that.
maybe he is saying, "justine!"  but the more i think about it why would he
say that?  actually why would he say either of them?  i'm sorry to waste
your time but i just had to bitch about that.  i couldn't hold it in any
longer.  thanks.

peace,
rebekah

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subject:      nigc; band de soleil

howdy!

we were just looking at the daemon records web site, and on the =
audio/visual page, there are two albums listed for band de soleil. one =
we have, redemption dream, the other is called bird on fire, and is not =
available from daemon. does anyone know where we could get a copy of =
this? is it newer or older than redemption dream? anyone? anyone? also, =
the latest daemon catalog says that bds has been signed to a major indie =
label (not daemon??) and that a new album is coming out. does anyone =
have any more info on this and/or when the new album will be out?? =
thanks for the space!

peace,
susan and jocelyn

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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subject:      re: best non-lyric quotes (beavis and butthead)

well,yeah she does sound like beavis and butthead, but the next part is what
i like where they say

emily: we all keep tring to learn insruments we can't play.
amy: sara lee's on tour with ani difranco.  we keep calling her up  every day
and saying "emily learned to play bass today"
emily:  come baaaaack, come baaaaack.

peace
sasha

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check out the hidden water web page on them...   it should answer your
questions:

http://www.hidwater.com/bds/bdshome.html

renee

* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

"the same sun that warms your heart    "the beautiful ladies walk right by
will suck the good earth dry..."       ya know i never know what to say!"
       "get out the map"                       "shame on you"
        by emily saliers                        by amy ray

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subject:      i kissed a girl.....actually, i didn't....but......

the singer of the song is jill sobule.  she is kinda quirky and odd.

peace-

karrie

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subject:      sigc:  laduke is green party's vp candidate

this was posted to another list i'm on, without attribution.

                               =-=-=<>=-=-=

ralph nader selects minnesota activist
winona laduke for his running mate

winona laduke, an ojibwe activist from the white earth reservation in
northern minnesota, has joined green party presidential candidate ralph
nader in his challenge to the "two-party duopoly". in a press conference
at the capitol building in st. paul, mn on thursday, august 29, 3:00 p.m.
cdt, it was announced that nader had selected laduke for his running mate.

laduke, 37, is a graduate of harvard university and is founder of the
white earth land recovery project, dedicated to recovering land within the
white earth reservation; she also founded the indigenous women's network,
which she led to last year's u.n. conference on the status of women in
beijing. she has been an active organizer for native american issues in
south dakota, new mexico, and arizona, and was a leader in the successful
opposition to the james bay hydroelectric projects in northern canada. she
is on the board of directors of greenpeace usa, and organized and hosted
the recent "honor the earth" national tour by the popular folk/pop group,
the indigo girls, raising over $250,000 to aid grassroots organizations.
in march of 1995 time magazine nominated winona laduke as one of "50
leaders for the future".

laduke says of the nader candidacy and the green party "it is time that
the people had a choice, not only those with privilege. it is time to talk
about the future issues of this country, not just the next election. the
greens and nader promise to open the dialog."

ralph nader's presidential candidacy has now qualified for the ballot in
14 states with a total of 171 electoral votes: hawaii (4), alaska (3),
washington (11), oregon (7), california (54), nevada (4), utah (5),
colorado (8), new mexico (5), iowa (7), maine (4), new jersey (15) and new
york (33) and tennessee (11).  he is expected to qualify in minnesota (10)
at the filing deadline on september 10.  there are a total of 538
electoral college votes; a presidential candidate must garner a minimum of
270 to win the election.

nader says: "this campaign is to build a progressive party for a
progressive democracy that both respects all people and provides them with
the instruments for democratic action that produces a just and happy
society - a society that stresses balance and creativity, and possesses a
sense of humane legacy for future generations. these are the objectives
that winona laduke has worked so vitally for. if there is ever a grass
roots candidate, it is winona laduke, who returned to her indigenous roots
in minnesota. she has worked, organized, written and taught locally,
regionally, nationally and wherever indigenous peoples are struggling to
protect their homes, their lands and their future. her chosen course of
justice for humanity galvanizes as it inspires and leads by example and
commitment. we welcome her."

ralph nader received the green party nomination for president at its
national convention on august 19 in los angeles. nader is a passionate
critic of the influence of corporate interests in the u.s. government, and
through his presidential campaign is beseeching americans to become
"public citizens" and increase their participation in government and their
communities. both nader and laduke consider themselves politically active
in the broader context of citizen's rights, and view that the electoral
process should not be exclusive.

prior to the announcement of laduke's candidacy, a number of prominent
green activists, mostly women, served as interim vice presidential
candidates for nader in states conducting petition drives. at the green
party convention the green party women's caucus proposed that these
candidates should be included in the vice-presidential nomination as a
mark of respect for their contributions, an expression of the diversity of
issues they represent, and as an example of the green values of
cooperation and decentralization. nader and green party members agreed to
accept these candidates as advisors to the vice president.

nader believes that the green party philosophy is in harmony with
positions he advocates. the green movement is based upon "ten key values":
ecology, social justice, grassroots democracy, non-violence,
community-based economics, feminism, respect for diversity, personal &
global responsibility, sustainability and decentralization. the green
party is active across the u.s., as well as in 75 countries around the
world.

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where is frankly scarlet from?

the name sounds familiar, and if they are who i think they are then i saw
them play last summer in dallas, and it was a cool show.

on another note, k's choice was being interviewed this morning on kpft in
houston, and they mentioned that "the last time we were here we openend
for indigo girls."  is that true?  i know they opened on a leg of their
tour, but i didn't think that that tour came through houston.  last time
ig played houston i think kristen hall was the opener.

darren

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darglass@owlnet.rice.edu                        after all"
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~darglass/         indigo girls
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subject:      ellen and murphy brown!

does anyone just keep hoping that kemp or dole will say something about
ellen and the whole lebanese thing???  doesn't this just remind you of dan
qualye and murphy brown??? maybe ellen should come out and get pregnant!!
yikes!!  that would just drive 'em crazy!!  maybe ellen and murphy could
become lovers and adopt a baby from a different race and ellen could join
the military as a don't ask don't tell private.  obviously, i should just
write the show myself!!

just bein' goofy,
reggi
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subject:      indigo girls promo spotted...

hello good people....

whilst shopping the other day i spotted a copy of the promo
"breaking curfew"...thats the one cd 14 song sampler from
"1200 curfews". i already have it but if someone wants me
to get it and mail it for them i will do so. they wanted
$16 for it...i would charge you just for the cd plus sales
tax and shipping....:)

thanks, scott.
scandcar@dpc.net

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subject:      i kissed a girl (yes, i did once...it was corinne!) nigc

--- you wrote:
the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack
--- end of quoted material ---
nope its jill sobule. and juliana hatfield sings supermodel.

oooooh, susie so smartie-pants

bwahahah juts playing friends...

susan

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subject:      re: nigc: who sings 'i kissed a girl'?

wingstar@mulberry.com said:

>sorry for the nigc but this has been driving me and my so crazy. we got
>a wav of part of the song 'i kissed a girl' and are really wanting to
>hear the whole song but no one seems to know who sings it. even the
>person who sent the wav didn't know. i figured someone out there must
>know!! please!! i am hoping!!!

jill sobule, on her self-titled debut album. this album has become
#1 on my playlist since i got it on boxing day. check it out!

glenna

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subject:      re: i kissed a girl (yes, i did once...it was corinne!) nigc

>--- you wrote:
>the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
>the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack
>--- end of quoted material ---
>nope its jill sobule. and juliana hatfield sings supermodel.
>
>oooooh, susie so smartie-pants


hee hee,  susie woosie is wrong!  jill sobule does to sing supermodel...i
have the cd at home.  and i saw her sing it live and in person too.  so
there!  neener neener neener....hee hee, just kidding...i love you susan!

peace, love, and caffeine withdrawal,
sundara, who for some reason, unbeknownst to her, put on lipstick this
morning, something she hasn't done since her scary big-hair high school
days:)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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subject:      review of cleveland show!!!

hey everybody!!

the woody guthrie tribute show here in cleveland was wonderful!!  the girls
were fabulous.  i thought they'd play like one woody song but nope!!  first
they came out and sang backup during ani difranco's song "not a pretty girl"
(??? forgive me all you ani fans!) then they came out and did "gypsy davy"
(woody guthrie song with a on mandolin) then did "get out the map" (once
again a on mandolin) next came "this train" and they brought ani back out
for an awesome version of "ramblin' around". at the end a & e participated
in the big jam session. everyone sang "hard travelin'" "hobo's lullabye" and
"this land is your land"  well, i have a good recording of ig's four songs
and bruce springsteen's set, but i didn't get ani's 3 songs (except for the
part where ig sang backup, sorry guys!) or the jam session cause i ran outta
tape :(  those of you who want the four songs i'll be happy to take
requests. i guess i'll wait & see how many requsts i get before i set up a
tree.
they gave out some pretty cool programs that has biographies of all the
performers. the indigo one said:

"since their 1987 debut album strange fire, emily saliers and amy ray have
established themselves as the definitive female folk duo in contemporary
music.  many indigo girls' songs deal withsocial and political issues,
particularly the destruction of the environment and feminism.  critically
acclaimed works such as the self-titled indigo girls and swamp ophelia
continue to carry on the spirit of woody guthrie.  most recently, the indigo
girls have staged a series of concerts on behalf of native american
environmental groups working to protect their land and culture."

that's not all folks, as i opened up the plain dealer (cleveland newspaper)
this morning it had a lengthy review complete with a picture of the girls
performing. they were also mentioned fequently in the article.

"the indigo girls applied their tight harmonies on guthrie's dancing "gypsy
davy," then played several tight renditions of their own songs including
"this train", a sliding guitar folk-blues inspired by guthrie's "this train
is bound for glory"

the reporter (who i know for a fact doesn't like ig because i had to write
him a very critical letter after a bad, misinformed review of so)even
couldn't find anything bad to say about the flawless performance by a & e.
he called the show "wonderfully played and paced, full of the humor and
compassion that made guthrie so special."

it was indeed a magical evening!

talk to ya soon!
rob

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on sat, 28 sep 1996, sasha friedman wrote:

> one i really like is from new orleans jazz fest this year after "don't give
> that girls a gun" :
>
> amy:  emily was playin bass on that one.  yeah yeah
> emily: we all  keep learning instruments we don't know how to play
> amy: sara lee's on tour with ani difranco.  we call her up every day and say
> "emily learned to play bass today!!!!!!!!!"
> emily: come back, come back

        well...from that show, i gotta say emily takes the cake.

        (in reference to joan baez's beautiful son)...

        "isn't he so fuckin' cute..." (or something to that effect)...

gotta love her,
teri

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subject:      re: chiapas & zapatistas on ig demo tour (long)
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i've pondered this post for quite sometime now. i first thought "gee, if
amy supports it it must be a worthy cause." then i started to read
between the lines. regardless of what their rationale is they are still a
military group using weapons. they are still killing people!!!
   i'm sorry, i just can't bring myself to agree with this particular
cause. war is war...there is no justification for killing at any time.
ben

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subject:      re: astrological signs
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on sat, 28 sep 1996, kimberly hobbs wrote:

> amy - b.d. april 12th, 1964
> i guess that would make e a cancer(?) and a a taurus (?) is that right?

        i believe amy's an aries.  i'm a taurus and i'm sad to say that
amy and i have missed each other by a whoppin' ten days.

teri

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subject:      nigc--alpha males

hello all...

i don't know if any of you picked up the latest edition of esquire
magazine, but there is an interesting article for all of you feminists.
it covers information concerning the new "men's movement" and their
thoughts about the "alpha male".  i only got to a part of it, but the
alpha male theory will hopefully put feminists back into motion.  many
women think our battle is over, but for those of us in the future, it has
only begun....

anyone else who is more familiar with the alpha male prototype?  i would
like to post the article on the list, but i think i will see if someone
could provide a shorter synopsis for us all.  i'm afraid a long article
will be deleted--and i feel it is vital that women know about this new
creation to help stamp out feminists.

peace to all of my brothers and sisters...aim


i wish i were a trinity
so if i lost a part of me
i'd still have two of the same to live

-emily saliers

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subject:      shawn and stuff

man...i haven't posted for a llloooonnnnggggg time....

        i'm just about to implode if midnight doesn't hit the west coast
soon.  the new shawn colvin...i can hear her angelic voice in my head
right now...

        attn bay area listfolk:  has anyone heard anything about a
concert called "bread and roses" taking place on alcatraz with ig and
joan baez headlining????  have i entirely missed the boat on this one?

        finally...i prefer the term "thesbians"..."damn thesbians..i hate
those actors..." :)

ccsbzzz,
teri

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i meant to send this to the list. sorry gwen....
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>
> but please don't make the mistake of lumping all "religious people"
> together the way those opposed to homosexuality try to do with "gay
> people" (or for that matter, like those of us who try to be enlightened by
> making decisions according to who we like as friends : "i have a friend
> who is <black, gay, other minority group>, i think they are great").  just
> like any other demographic out there, there are religious people who are
> open minded and accepting, and those who are shitheads.
>
i mean this as very non-aggressive....

does having the belief that homosexuality is a sin, make me a shithead
in your eyes? in my beliefs, it is a sin to be homosexual. however, i
sin everyday, so it is not my right to judge anyone for what they
practise. that is between them and the lord. i am just curious if you
are judging us to be shitheads for our beliefs. i am not open minded
about this issue, and i feel the answer is quite obvious, but i also
believe that we all have been given the right to decide for ourselves,
and no one has the right to judge us for our decisions, but the lord.

chris payne owen4@adnc.com

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 19:39:37 -0400
reply-to:     andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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subject:      jill sobule (nigc)

actually, it's jill sobule.  "i kissed a girl" is on her self-titled album,
which is one of the best albums i've ever heard (after all ig albums!).
jill is so cool & i recommend her to everyone.  her first album is called
"things here are different," but it's not as good as the second album.
there's a link a jill sobule webpage from my homepage.

andi

mark wrote:

>the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
>the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack

>on sun, 29 sep 1996, pat & shelly wrote:

>> hi all,
>>
>> sorry for the nigc but this has been driving me and my so crazy.  we got a
>> wav of part of the song 'i kissed a girl' and are really wanting to hear the
>> whole song but no one seems to know who sings it.  even the person who sent
>> the wav didn't know.  i figured someone out there must know!! please!!  i am
>> hoping!!!
>>
>> drop me an email if you do, i would really appreciate it!
>>
>> pat
>> wingstar@mulberry.com

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didn't amy say this... i'm probably crazy, but that's okay... b-sides, i
was thinking boots which i don't really have...  so i didn't participate,
however, i thought it was something like:

e: i was just thinkin bout galileo-
*crowd roars*
a: nice transition
e: yeah.  uh, i guess you just say his name and y'know.  anyway, the church
pardoned him a few years back and so now everything's okay, right?
a: there's probably a cow somewhere in the middle of a field sayin "bout
time"
e: lookin up at the stars
a: moo.

i know i misquoted alot, but i thought that was it...  it seems like an amy
thing to say anywhoo...  whatever, i'm procrastinating, god hate
homework...

alec

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subject:      skip songs?

skip songs?

nope. never.  just as i feel that every person i meet i have something to
learn from, i feel that every ig song i hear, i have something to gain
from.
(emily songs often serve me as a palate cleanser for the next amy song,
like the ginger they give you at sushi bars).


                        --sunny

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"i learned to play new insruments.  all of them are made out of metal".

                        emily,
      when picking up the banjo and beginning to play
          get out the map in santa fe, nm.


                 --sunny,
   who must have missed her shiney metal piano?

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--- you wrote:
hi susan!

actually, jill sobule does sing a song called supermodel, the one from the
movie clueless.  j. hatfield does another song called supermodel.  pick up
the j. sobule cd- it's really great!!

-sheri :)
--- end of quoted material ---
ooooh sheri you're right, im such a dummy. i was thinking of the divine miss
j's song, but alas, i have been righted
thanks, and sorry y'all

susercalifragilisticexpialidocious

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on sep 29, 1996 12:56:42, 'gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>' wrote:


>one of the first to try to include the blessing of same-sex unions


i have a question about that...  i don't mean to nitpick, and this is
totally honest.  there was a gay couple in a temple of a friend of mine,
and they wanted to go through the jewish marriage ceremony.  in and of
itself, i would think that's fine, except for one thing.  much of the
ceremony is based on the "be fertile and increase" type thing.
specifically, the marriage is a union with the goal of procreation.
bluntly, what is all of your takes on this.  i mean, i don't know the
ceremony all that well, and i think they have they right to equal
treatment, but isn't that a bit of a perversion of the ceremony anyway?  i
mean, wouldn't that be like (let me think of something that isn't
offensive) a catholic priest taking the confession of a buddhist?  i mean,
sure, it can be done, but does it sort of change the meaning?  i'm
undecided on this issue, as i am in favor of equality, and yet, while
non-religious, i am still sort of understanding of why a congregation would
not want a marriage of that type.

i'd be interested in what you people thought.  if you think it's worth a
mini-thread, post public, otherwise, a private email is just as good...
have a nice day,

alec

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well im pretty sure the supermodel song is on the sobule cd cause i listen
to it<g>


on mon, 30 sep 1996, susan b. marine wrote:

> --- you wrote:
> the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
> the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack
> --- end of quoted material ---
> nope its jill sobule. and juliana hatfield sings supermodel.
>
> oooooh, susie so smartie-pants
>
> bwahahah juts playing friends...
>
> susan
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subject:      favorite not song quotes

okay,  my favorite emily quote (from the watershed video)

"i aim to please the girlies"

.....sigh....isn't she cute?

peace, love, and caffeine withdrawal,
sundara, who for some reason, unbeknownst to her, put on lipstick this
morning, something she hasn't done since her scary big-hair high school
days:)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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>sorry. your message could not be delivered to:
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>adrienne bloch (the name was not found at the remote site. check that the name
>has been entered correctly.)
>

who is this adrienne bloch?  why is everything i post to the list returned
with this little note?  i don't like to publicly post this kinda stuff to
the list,  but i was just curious if anyone else is getting these.
hmmmm....

peace, love, and caffeine withdrawal,
sundara, who for some reason, unbeknownst to her, put on lipstick this
morning, something she hasn't done since her scary big-hair high school
days:)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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>--- you wrote:
>the answer is jill soube i thinks thats how her last name is spelt she did
>the song supermodel on the clueless soundtrack
>--- end of quoted material ---

>nope its jill sobule. and juliana hatfield sings supermodel.

>oooooh, susie so smartie-pants

>bwahahah juts playing friends...

>susan

no, mark's right too...jill sobule sings "supermodel" on "jill sobule" and
on the "clueless" soundtrack.  but, she didn't write it, & neither did
juliana hatfield.  david baerwald, david kitay, brian macleod, & kristen
vigard did.  look who's the smartiepants!  :)

--andi

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subject:      children of glbt's....(lone coyote??)

okay....being on the digest gets you lost.........

just reading some mail, and someone said the following.....
>>also, there is th whole issue of anna's kids when jane moves in--the
daughter loves her and the son slams his bedroom door.  being the daughter of
a lesbian myself i would love to delve deeper into that tangent. >>>

wooo....stop right there...being very active in the children of queer people
world, i would love to have this discussion. who said this??? unfortunatly
all i got was the above quoted from someone else......

and while we are at it.....anyone else a child of a glbt parent...
any glbt's have kids??? email me.......

kate
dyke daughter of gay father.....
go second generation-ers!

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subject:      emily says moo/drunk guy speaks - galileo on 1200 curfews
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i could be wrong but i listened to this about ten times and it sounds
like: emily, "moo"
      some drunk guy, "f---ing a"
having been at many concerts, in many mosh pits and smelled the stale
stench of beer burps i can see some drunk guy saying "f---ing a" after
emily says, "moo"...so be angry no more rebekah!!! enjoy galileo once more!
peace, kim (north van)

on sun, 29 sep 1996, rebekah s scholl wrote:

> out of nowhere  you hear this guy in the crowd scream, "just sing!"  that
> makes me so mad that someone would have the gall to do that.  it is just
> plain rude and it pisses me off everytime that i listen to the album.  as
> soon as he say it they start playing and it seems as if they actually
> listened to him.  i am sure that isn' t the case but it sounds that way.
> maybe he is saying, "justine!"  but the more i think about it why would he
>

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subject:      favorite non-lyric quotes

everyone is quoting a & e chatting at new orleans jazz fest about emily
learning to play bass and sara playing with ani, but everyone keeps forgetting to
add what amy says about sara after emily says, "come back, come back!"  you can
hear amy jokingly say, "trait wasor!"  listen to the boot...  i thought it
was really cute :)

peace,

joan :)

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>add what amy says about sara after emily says, "come back, come back!"  you can
>hear amy jokingly say, "trait wasor!"  listen to the boot...  i thought it
>was really cute :)
>
i thought it was "traitor"  hmmm...what's a trait wasor?  just curious?

peace, love, and caffeine withdrawal,
sundara, who for some reason, unbeknownst to her, put on lipstick this
morning, something she hasn't done since her scary big-hair high school
days:)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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subject:      re: some people, drunk guy 1200 curfews

i always thought right before galileo the guy screams "walk away", because
people are always screamin requests and stuff.  who knows.

peace
sasha

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i  agree with emily taking the cake from the no show with "oh look there's
gabe, he's so fucking beautiful"  but it' s great hw amy goes "he's taken.
aren't you taken ?? yeah because when we were walking up here i said oh
there's gabe and emily goes ' you know he has a girlfriend' and we were all
like  awwwwwww shucks"  then they both pause and at the same time are like
"ok enough of that" they crack me up.

sasha

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subject:      re: song that i skip/ig doing dylan

>the song the amy does that i cringe when i listen to is _all along the
>watchtower_ .  it seems like amy is just screaming and not *singing*.


>oddly enough, that song is my favorite ig cover ever (besides tangled up in
>blue)! i love the roughness of their version, and i love that song!!!

>-margot

hey margot

i have got to agree with you.  much of the reason i adore the above is the
growling gravelly sandpaper like quality of amy's voice.  but then i adore
kristen hall, bonnie raitt, i have some kim carnes tucked away, caroline
aiken is gorgeous  - so what do i know?

sue jackel

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subject:      re: i kissed a girl (yes, i did once...it was corinne!) nigc

yes, susannah and i have learned to kiss from many many states away.  in the
words of ani difranco...."oh yeah!  oh hell yeah!  ohhhhohhhh yeaaaaaahhhh,
ohh hell yeahhhhhh"

hahahaha!

love
corinne

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subject:      indigo girls promo gone

the promo is spoken for...sorry!
scott.

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              heller" at sep 30, 96 11:48 pm

> e: i was just thinkin bout galileo-
> *crowd roars*
> a: nice transition
> e: yeah.  uh, i guess you just say his name and y'know.  anyway, the church
> pardoned him a few years back and so now everything's okay, right?
> a: there's probably a cow somewhere in the middle of a field sayin "bout
> time"
> e: lookin up at the stars
> a: moo.

almost exactly right, except its emily that says "moo" the one stage
left with the red hair. =)

sorry i'm being anal retentive here, i just wanna nip this one in the
bud -- last time it devoured the list for 3 weeks!

                                -- chris

p.s.  this one will be in the new edition of the faq.  if you have any
other questions that you think should be in the faq, mail them
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subject:      adrienne bloch & ig roseland show

>>sorry. your message could not be delivered to:
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>>adrienne bloch (the name was not found at the remote site. check that the name
>>has been entered correctly.)
>>

>who is this adrienne bloch?  why is everything i post to the list returned
>with this little note?  i don't like to publicly post this kinda stuff to
>the list,  but i was just curious if anyone else is getting these.
>hmmmm....

yup...i was wondering about that too!

on another note...
i just got my roseland boot in the mail today & i noticed that during
michelle malone's set & the ig's new songs, everyone's having
conversations.  i think that's pretty rude.  i mean, just b/c you don't
know a song, doesn't mean you should gab away.  poor michelle.  poor emily,
who's doing her best on the piano while the crowd discusses their personal
lives...totally nigc. i hope i wasn't one of those people.  they came all
the way to nyc for a concert, then only paid attention to songs they knew.
it was a demo tour after all.  what did they expect?  then, at the end of
the song, they clap & scream like it's their favorite song ever.
sorry...that was bugging me.  but besides for this little pet peeve, it was
a great concert, at the time & on the boot.

andi

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                     "it's only life after all."-es

   "you said good friends are hard to come by i laughted and bought you
a beer 'cause it's too corny to cry well sentiment given and sentiment lost
  you shook it off with a smirk and a toss and you were only joking."-ar

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 17:24:40 +0000
reply-to:     "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
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from:         "christopher d. payne" <owen4@adnc.com>
subject:      hey you dodgers fans out there.... nigc

i remember 2 or 3 posts about the dastardly padres not giving up and
letting your dodgers win the west, not too long ago.

i have to say that the last month has been a very exciting one for both
our teams, and it couldnt have been scripted any better. but my padres
swept the dodgers in 3 games to win the west!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wooooooooooohoooooooooooo pads nl west champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry, but its been 12 years since we have had a reason to celebrate.

oh yeah, and i love the indigo girls too (mild flame repellent there)

chris payne owen4@adnc.com
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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 20:31:26 -0400
reply-to:     mrobert824@aol.com
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from:         mrobert824@aol.com
subject:      eddie's attic on tues./radar rose southern tour
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hey all-
  viva la diva and radar rose are playing at eddie's attic on tuesday 1
october..  vld is doing an all ages show at 7pm, and i hear that it could be
acoustic.. hmm.. could be interesting.. if they do it, i'm sure it'll be a
big treat.. i've only heard them acoustic once.. can't wait!    radar rose is
coming south for a bit, and will be kicking off their mini tour at eddies
that night opening for vld's (electric?) late show.

dates and places for radar rose's mini-tour:

tues oct 1- eddie's attic [(404) 377-9122], decatur, ga w/ viva la diva

wed oct 2- al who's place [(706) 327-1500], columbus, ga w/ cornbread

fri oct 4- the redlight cafe [(404) 874-7828], atlanta, ga w/ wendy bucklew

sat oct 5- lil' irelands [(334)821-5634], auburn, al

radar rose on the web- http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

take care,
brooke

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date:         sun, 29 sep 1996 17:55:44 -0100
reply-to:     sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      re: fans...

>>... largest turnout (25,000) went to the indigo girls, who caught a
>peek of
>>their army of rabid fans just before taking the stage. in perfect
>unison they
>>said, "oh, fuck!" ...


woo-hoo!!! that's me!!!!  i was in front!!  i was there first!!!!  (sorry,
getting all nostalgic :)

peace, love, and john jacob jingle hymer schmidt,
sundara (or sundarling, my new favorite nickname, and the only nickname
i've ever really liked)

"...i know that the fight to end patriarchy, to devour it, to deplete and
dismember it in favor of a system that does not achieve cosmic orgasm
through the oppression of other is a just and valiant fight.  and i will
continue to pursue this glorious end as long as my soul wanders the
earth..."
                --anastasia higginbotham

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 19:49:04 -0700
reply-to:     k miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
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from:         k miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
subject:      re: same-sex marriage in a religious sense (nigc)
x-to:         alec heller <alec@nyc.pipeline.com>

i know other folks will answer more eloquently than me but here's my take:
alec, do you know any heterosexual couples who have chosen not to have
children?  or that are getting married after one of them has had tubes tied
or a vasectomy?  (answer is yes, right?) ok, so what about them?  also, each
marriage ceremony is unique - the one you witnessed happened to have the
'procreate' stuff in it.  so take it out for gay weddings!  come to think of
it, i've never even been to a straight wedding where they talked about
procreation.  of course i've never been to a jewish wedding, but i'd imagine
that the jewish faith also allows for variation on the vows & wedding sermon.

anyway, call it what you like, but i for one would define a long-term
relationship with emotional/financial/sexual/etc support, as a 'marriage'.
what else would it be?  what i can't understand is what people have against
more couples marrying, or against the word 'marriage' being used to describe
these couples.

alec heller wrote:
>
> on sep 29, 1996 12:56:42, 'gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>' wrote:
>
> >one of the first to try to include the blessing of same-sex unions
>
> i have a question about that...  i don't mean to nitpick, and this is
> totally honest.  there was a gay couple in a temple of a friend of mine,
> and they wanted to go through the jewish marriage ceremony.  in and of
> itself, i would think that's fine, except for one thing.  much of the
> ceremony is based on the "be fertile and increase" type thing.
> specifically, the marriage is a union with the goal of procreation.
> bluntly, what is all of your takes on this.  i mean, i don't know the
> ceremony all that well, and i think they have they right to equal
> treatment, but isn't that a bit of a perversion of the ceremony anyway?  i
> mean, wouldn't that be like (let me think of something that isn't
> offensive) a catholic priest taking the confession of a buddhist?  i mean,
> sure, it can be done, but does it sort of change the meaning?  i'm
> undecided on this issue, as i am in favor of equality, and yet, while
> non-religious, i am still sort of understanding of why a congregation would
> not want a marriage of that type.
>
> i'd be interested in what you people thought.  if you think it's worth a
> mini-thread, post public, otherwise, a private email is just as good...
> have a nice day,
>
> alec
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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 21:49:59 -0500
reply-to:     mom <fila@netins.net>
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from:         mom <fila@netins.net>
subject:      re: astro sign poll

chalk one up for leo
(born under leo in the chinese year of the tiger...
  anyone want to guess my temperament???    ]:)

ciao
mom

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 22:49:10 edt
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: same-sex marriage in a religious sense (nigc)
x-to:         alec@nyc.pipeline.com
in-reply-to:  <199610010000.aaa26087@pipe2.ny2.usa.pipeline.com>; from "alec
              heller" at oct 1, 96 12:00 am

>
> on sep 29, 1996 12:56:42, 'gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>' wrote:
>
>
> >one of the first to try to include the blessing of same-sex unions
>
>
> i have a question about that...  i don't mean to nitpick, and this is
> totally honest.  there was a gay couple in a temple of a friend of mine,
> and they wanted to go through the jewish marriage ceremony.  in and of
> itself, i would think that's fine, except for one thing.  much of the
> ceremony is based on the "be fertile and increase" type thing.
> specifically, the marriage is a union with the goal of procreation.
> bluntly, what is all of your takes on this.  i mean, i don't know the
> ceremony all that well, and i think they have they right to equal
> treatment, but isn't that a bit of a perversion of the ceremony anyway?  i
> mean, wouldn't that be like (let me think of something that isn't
> offensive) a catholic priest taking the confession of a buddhist?  i mean,
> sure, it can be done, but does it sort of change the meaning?  i'm
> undecided on this issue, as i am in favor of equality, and yet, while
> non-religious, i am still sort of understanding of why a congregation would
> not want a marriage of that type.
>
> i'd be interested in what you people thought.  if you think it's worth a
> mini-thread, post public, otherwise, a private email is just as good...
> have a nice day,
>

hi alec,

  a good, honest question, i hope i can give you an equally good,
honest answer.  to start i'm a straight white male.  catholic,
practicing catholic.  i also think the church is dead wrong when it
comes to homosexual issues and i actively work to change that.

  i believe that gay folks should be allowed a religious service
should they want one provided they proclaim the appropriate faith.

  one can look at it this way, does the church/temple/masque/whatever
(ctmw) deny marriage in the faith to folks who know they can not get
pregnant? i have never heard of such a case.  there are lots of
infertile folks out there, many of them married in faith.  what about
those folks who actively seek never to have a child?  have they sinned
by getting married in the ctmw?  if one of those couples decided to
get married would it raise such an uproar as two homosexuals getting
married?  depending how those questions are answered, it possibly
exposes a fairly large hole in the arguement -- why is ok for hets to
do it but not homos, perhaps fertility isn't the central issue after
all?

  but that's a surface argement and fairly bullshit at that.  i mean
there are lots of ways to be fertile and increase without yourself
bringing a new life into the world.  take a deeper, fuller
understanding of that phrase to mean "to foster, to teach, to
nurture."  folks without kids can do all those things just as well
(and perhaps better) than folks with kids! hets and gays the same.
what does it matter? by volunteering in the ctmw, living a like of
morality and ethics that is an upstanding model for a youth to follow.
don't these things also give rise to fertility and increasing?  think
of the parable of the sower and the seed.  if the ground the seed
falls on sucks, the plant will die.

  not to mention, who says a gay parent won't have a kid?  adoption
and artificial insemination work no matter the sexual preference.
basically all you need is the parts -- then biology takes over.  i
don't think anyone would try to claim that a het couple loves their
own children more than a gay couple would.  i will say this -- there
is a movement in the gay community which i think is a mistake, the
coupling of gay men who want kids with gay women who want kids.  while
i understand why this happens, i personally think the child should be
a production of love (and yes ai and adoption count here).  there is
no love between the parents in question -- they do share a love for
the child, but that isn't enough.  anyway i digress =)

  finally, what is the real purpose of marriage?  to me, its the union
of two people who love each other so much they want to step in front
of the world and say, "i love this person so much we have ceased to be
two people, rather we are some sort of trinity: me - hir - me/hir.
three but one, one but three.  i want to testify this to my society
and my god."  while children are a manifestation of this union in
flesh, just the statement means a great deal.  personally i think its
sinful to deny someone from being able to express themselves in such a
way.

   this isn't meant as a flame, rather as an answer to a well-posed
question.  to me it comes down to this: if you dig deep enough you
usually find out the surface words are a rationalization of a hidden
fear. when the surface arguements contadict, what is left standing is
the real issue.  try on that test and see what you come up with.

                take care and good luck,

                        chris

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 22:59:13 -2800
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      astrological sign poll

howdy all in indigo land,

figured it was time i chimed in with my sign and give another
hash mark for the gemini's.

wonder twin powers activate!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 23:23:52 -0400
reply-to:     andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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from:         andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
subject:      gabe

>i  agree with emily taking the cake from the no show with "oh look there's
>gabe, he's so fucking beautiful"  but it' s great hw amy goes "he's taken.
>aren't you taken ?? yeah because when we were walking up here i said oh
>there's gabe and emily goes ' you know he has a girlfriend' and we were all
>ike  awwwwwww shucks"  then they both pause and at the same time are like
>ok enough of that" they crack me up.

>sasha

ok, this is probably getting too personal & flame away if you must, but my
roommate & i were reading what sasha wrote & wondering if a & e are bi.  i
mean, i always thought that they were lesbians, & here they are saying
"awwww shucks" that gabe's taken.  i know that this is too personal, but if
someone wants to clue us in (by private e-mail, if it's not "appropriate
list content"), b/c this is really bothering us.  thanks in advance...

-andi


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                              andrea lipman
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         check out my new webpage, which has nothing too exciting
          on it yet, but will definitely be cool in the future:
                   http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

                     "it's only life after all."-es

   "you said good friends are hard to come by i laughted and bought you
a beer 'cause it's too corny to cry well sentiment given and sentiment lost
  you shook it off with a smirk and a toss and you were only joking."-ar

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 23:30:34 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      traitor! (something strange is goin' on)

verrry weird!!!!  "traitor!"  was what i wrote in my post about emily
playing bass, but for some weird reason it got garbled in the transmission
or something.  geez that's weird.  i just read the message on my digest
and was going what!?!?!?  people are gonna think i'm really weird or
something.  so just for the record, "traitor" was what i typed, and i don't
know *how* on earth it came out "trait wasor" or whatever the hell it was!
btw, i've been getting these "could not deliver to adrienne bloch" messages
too everytime i send an e-mail to the list.  hmmm...something vewwy stwange
is going on with e-mail lately...

peace,

joan :)

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date:         mon, 30 sep 1996 23:40:12 -0400
reply-to:     stephen curry <sacurry@mindspring.com>
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from:         stephen curry <sacurry@mindspring.com>
subject:      (nigc) good ig-type music venues in europe?

those of you who love this kind of music might be able to give me some good
advice.

i'm headed to europe in two weeks. if you have any suggestions of good
acoustic music venues in london, paris, munich, prague or frankfurt, please
e-mail me.

thanks a bunch! sorry for the nigc bandwidth.


stephen

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