lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-10e


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date:         sun, 27 oct 1996 21:06:42 -0600
reply-to:     chuck & jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
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from:         chuck & jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
subject:      hair stats...re-do

ok, i do stand corrected thanks to binky.  here are the updated stats:

total number of entries:  55

amy long: 34%
amy short: 15%

emily long:  31%
emiy short:  16%

bald:  4%

*sigh*  peace all,
- jen hall

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date:         sun, 27 oct 1996 23:12:11 -0500
reply-to:     dmwatts@erols.com
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from:         don watts <dmwatts@erols.com>
subject:      nigc

in response to nicholas dishler's question about maryland, i am in
cockeysville, maryland. anyone else?

don

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date:         sun, 27 oct 1996 23:21:51 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      merril bainbridge (nigc)

--- you wrote:
sorry to take up bandwidth about this but i love merril bainbridge's
music, and was suprised to hear she's been heard of in the states.  she's
quite popular over here... has a cd out called "the garden".  if you
haven't heard  her and get a chance to check her out, she's worth a
listen.
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at the risk of major flamage for taking up space for non-igc content.... <deep
breath inserted here>

merril's disk "the garden"  is fnarkin....awesome!!!! if you like jill sobule
or juliana hatfield, you'll love merril. i found her cd in the local rich's
shmeg-store (that's my word for cheesy dept. stores) and have been listening to
it non-stop since. okay, she's no em and amy..but she's good. and she does a
mean-ass cover of pet shop boys "being boring".

i thought a reference to what kind of music she compares to would be helpful
for those wondering about her....

au revoir pour la noir,
susanna o.

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date:         sun, 27 oct 1996 23:18:10 -0500
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      dylan tribute cd

        hi y'all...i bought a dylan tribute album the other day put out by
sister ruby records..."the times they are a changin'".
        it's been around since '91 so i'm sure it's old news, but it sure is
interesting!!!
        it has ig on it (of course) covering tuib, but with russell carter
singing a couple of verses...interesting to say the least and i'll leave it
at that!
        also on the cd are wendy bucklew, michelle malone, kristen hall, and
peter williams among others.  if you don't have it yet, it's a worthwhile
buy...and mm's version of "i'll be your baby tonight" is great.
        just fyi!

                jen

"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
     -amy ray

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date:         sun, 27 oct 1996 22:31:26 -0600
reply-to:     ".eric" <thie0080@itlabs.umn.edu>
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from:         ".eric" <thie0080@itlabs.umn.edu>
subject:      re: driving music

at 04:33 pm 10/25/96 -0800, you wrote:
>aaaahhhh!!!! this thread sucks!!!  not because i don't like listening to ig
>in the car,  it was all i listened to, except yoko the subaru's tape player
>broke last week, and i'm sooooooooooooooo  depressed about it.  now i have
>to listen to the stupid radio, which i hate.  i wanna listen to amy and
>emily.  i just wanted to whine and complain to someone,  thanks, i feel
>slightly better.  :)

i hear you...my stereo got stolen a few weeks ago with my rommate's ani cd
in it, and because of insurance paperwork, it took me two and a half weeks
to get a new one. as soon as i got my new one, i got out so and fell in
love with that album again(it was my first, but i've been neglecting it
lately for ani...)

.eric

now playing:  rem - out of time
     *****   oldie but goodie...   ***

"we fight for freedom, which no good man would surrender, but with his life."

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:34:32 -0400
reply-to:     sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
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from:         sharon jennings <rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
subject:      re: hte/ig merchandise

> and call your fabv  favorite radio stations and request that they play the
> honor cd any song (probably blood quantum)

i'm british (living in the usa) and i hadn't really thought much about the
european invasion of land that belonged to the native americans. the whole
honor the earth campaign has made me stop and think.... amy's soc at
bumbershoot really hit me hard..... i cringed when i heard it and hoped
that no one would cotton on to the fact that i was british. the honor cd is
great... my only regret is that there was a need to make it. i work at a
college radio station and we have been playing the album..... i did a two
hour special show promoting it and daemon records. as binky said it's a
great shame that the main stream haven't picked up on this album and done
more to promote it. if you don't already own a copy then buy one
immediately.

take care all... sorry for rambling.
sharon

ps. a very big thank you to all those who sent me question ideas..... the
interview with mchelle malone went well.


"i can't imagine having separate careers. my greatest fear is that it'll end."
                                                  emily saliers
               "my greatest fear is that emily has a fear that it'll end."
                                                     amy ray

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:01:03 -0500
reply-to:     margotll@aol.com
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from:         margotll@aol.com
subject:      re: blood quantum repost
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com

in a message dated 96-10-27 22:28:38 est, mmedido@aol.com writes:

>actually...now that i think of it.....
>i'm not sure if i can picture them singing
>"blood quantum" on rosie o'donnell's
>'happy talk' afternoon show.

   wouldn't "get out the map" sound good on rosie?

peace,
margot

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:10:33 -0500
reply-to:     margotll@aol.com
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from:         margotll@aol.com
subject:      tmf single

   i just came back from tower, where i found the touch me fall single under
the imports section. i bought it, of course, but i was just wondering: is
this rare or should i stop my bragging about having found it? hmm...

peace,
margot (who is obviously post happy -- a very rare thing)

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:17:14 -0500
reply-to:     renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
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from:         renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
subject:      bury my heart... single
in-reply-to:  <961028001033_219212249@emout09.mail.aol.com>

yeah, on a similar note, last weekend at a music convention, i picked up
a promo single of bury my heart at wounded knee.  had the studio
version, then a studio "thin line" then a live bury...

so, i paid $10 for it, which i though wasn't too bad.  i had never seen
it before, and so, i was happy with my purchase, but i was wondering
what ya'll thought about that...  was it a good deal?


renee

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:30:01 -0500
reply-to:     the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
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from:         the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
subject:      (nigrc) re: ani list?
x-to:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
in-reply-to:  <1.5.4.32.19961028012539.00803390@mail.execpc.com>

abigail,

        i don't know if you have this info already, but there *used* to be
an ani list at <ani-l@arabica.ucs.indiana.edu>.  i was subscribed, and i
never unsubscribed, but i just stopped getting messages quite a while ago,
so i don't know if it was dissolved and the listmod never told anyone or
what.  hope this helps.

--bess


on sun, 27 oct 1996, abigail wrote:

> hi guys,
>
> ok, i'm going to try one more time-is there an existing ani mailing list
> and/or builitin board? please let me know! thanks!
>
>
> :)abigail
> "i will not be....
>
> a pawn" ~emily saliers
>
> afraid of women" ~dar williams
>
> complacent!!!" ~amy ray
>
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date:         fri, 27 oct 1995 22:35:37 -0800
reply-to:     vockler <vockler@pacifier.com>
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from:         vockler <vockler@pacifier.com>
organization: pacifier internet server (360) 693-0325
subject:      re: (nigc) get your flames ready
x-to:         ralph ryan <sgmpaws@cfanet.com>

nice to see someone else called this bullshit.

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date:         fri, 27 oct 1995 22:36:29 -0800
reply-to:     vockler <vockler@pacifier.com>
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subject:      oops

guess i gunna get some crap for the bullshit remark. ;)


kris vockler
vockler@pacifier.com

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 00:46:24 -0500
reply-to:     andrea lipman <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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subject:      questions...

what is up w/ the parentheses in the song this train revised?  on both so &
1200c, it's listed as this train revised, but i keep seeing people list it
as this train (revised).

also, what songs did ig do in "boys on the side"?  "power of two" is the
one on the album, right?  which ones are in the movie?  on one of the
interview tapes i have, they mention the songs they recorded for it, but i
forget which are actually on it.  i've seen the movie, but not recently.

if anyone would like to help me out w/ either of my questions, i'd
appreciate it...

andi

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                           andrea lipman
                    e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
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           "high energy does not necessarily mean fast,
            high energy has to do with heart"-lou reed

            anybody know where i got this quote from? :)
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date:         fri, 27 oct 1995 22:56:58 -0800
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subject:      pride

alec, you can't win.  but keep trying.

kris vockler
vockler@pacifier.com

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 02:04:53 -0500
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subject:      i answered my own question...
x-to:         jschraub@sas.upenn.edu

i was just reading an interview on the lifeblood webpage, & e says that
they sang "joking" and "southland in the springtime" in "boys on the side."
so i answered my own question.  i'm still wondering about the this train
revised thing though...

andi

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           "high energy does not necessarily mean fast,
            high energy has to do with heart"-lou reed

            anybody know where i got this quote from? :)
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 03:07:23 -0500
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subject:      re: questions...
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in a message dated 96-10-28 00:49:51 est, ablipman@sas.upenn.edu (andrea
lipman) writes:

>what is up w/ the parentheses in the song this train revised?  on both so &
>1200c, it's listed as this train revised, but i keep seeing people list it
>as this train (revised).

   this train was a woodie guthrie song. or maybe that was in a dream. can
anyone back me up on this one?

peace,
margot

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 04:06:46 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: tmf single
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well that depends did it still have the pin or didnt it wait was that on
touch me fall or the other single off of so

on mon, 28 oct 1996 margotll@aol.com wrote:

>    i just came back from tower, where i found the touch me fall single under
> the imports section. i bought it, of course, but i was just wondering: is
> this rare or should i stop my bragging about having found it? hmm...
>
> peace,
> margot (who is obviously post happy -- a very rare thing)
>
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 13:13:31 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      possible cause for geko spam

i think i may know the reason why the geko company spammed us with that
advert.   one of their former employees (i won't say who, but many will
know who i'm on about) used to (or may still be) subscribed to this list,
and also ran a low-volume "news list" off their server.   that list was
configured to send all messages to this list as well, meaning that the
company has our list email somewhere on their records.   they might also
think it would reach the said former employee as well.   there is
certainly no love lost between the two parties.

i suggest that next time we get this kind of message off them (or anyone
offering a regional service) we each send them a message saying:  "what
use is this to me in <your home town>?"   they will soon get the message!

mat

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 08:15:10 -0600
reply-to:     tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      re: bury my heart... single
x-to:         renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <emr47oq00ivgm=lfvw@andrew.cmu.edu>

> yeah, on a similar note, last weekend at a music convention, i picked up
> a promo single of bury my heart at wounded knee.  had the studio
> version, then a studio "thin line" then a live bury...
>
> so, i paid $10 for it, which i though wasn't too bad.  i had never seen
> it before, and so, i was happy with my purchase, but i was wondering
> what ya'll thought about that...  was it a good deal?

i think $10 might be a bit much, but it is a cool single. i got the demo
from a good friend of mine who is the music director for my college's
radio station. she gets in really cool demo cd's all the time, and gives
em to me if she knows i like the group. she's /always/ watching for ig
stuff for me :)

jen

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 09:48:24 -0500
reply-to:     the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
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from:         the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
subject:      re: questions...
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isn't it actually a really old gospel song? (i could be wrong.) but you're
right, woodie guthrie sang it and made it famous.

--bess
(who used to sing this song in choir, and likes the ig version a lot more)

on mon, 28 oct 1996 margotll@aol.com wrote:

>    this train was a woodie guthrie song. or maybe that was in a dream. can
> anyone back me up on this one?
>
> peace,
> margot


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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 09:32:25 -0600
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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      re: get your flames ready, but i feel like this needs to be said.

>
> right on......if we want to get rid of stereotypes we have to stop using
> them ourselves!

i don't want to get rid of stereo types.  they are very useful, and for the most
part accurate, or they would not have become stereo types.  i think you should
just be aware that they are not always accurate, and they are always just a
rough generalization, and usually an exaggeration.

trant

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 07:22:42 -0800
reply-to:     mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>
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subject:      re: rosie email...plus igc

on  sat, 26 oct 1996 12:30:30 -0400, binky writes:


>i noticed russ @ hte suggested we call and request 'blood quantum'
>(or other songs) so they must be available to the radio stations...
>the quality of this recording would seem to merit a lot of attention
>...whats up ?????
>
>indigo girls were said to be the largest draw at bumbershoot this year
>yet they did not get mentioned in the local media (who decided to
>review kiss that weekend) is there some strange code of hippness
>that forces the press to ignore them...i know music press can be snotty
>occasionally ;) (dripping with irony)
>>as much as we hate mtv i kinda thought they might mention
>honor 1 in passing < (actually though...i rarely can take more
>than 3min. of it at a time ;)
>
>anyone out there know how these things work...is it as evil as it seems ?

my gf and i had this very conversation yesterday.  it started with me
pondering why when 25,000 people cram themselves in memorial stadium for
bumbershoot do ig still get precious little airplay or local attention at
all.  its been clear for the last few years that seattle loves ig.  i had
seen a review of honor 1 in the seattle weekly, but that's it!!  i call and
request ig on the kmtt all the time, and never hear my request (and i
always pick something that i know they have).  we were wondering if maybe
their is a huge lack of marketting for them.  for example, melissa
etheridge is a major comodity of sorts.  she's got a very organized fan
club that cost $20 to join, ticket hotline numbers to get good seats, tour
packages and a huge array of paraphernalia.  alot seems to go into to
packaging her and getting the word out.  maybe her record label force feeds
the radio stations with promo material.  i can image that ig couldn't
really care if people buy their t-shirts, but i know they feel slighted by
the airplay that they don't get.  and with hte being a benefit and all,
you'd think the media could be just a bit more receptive.  i just don't get
it.

betsy

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      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
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                    then we sing the common call.....
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 08:15:37 -0800
reply-to:     lori r shiraishi <lori.r.shiraishi@jpl.nasa.gov>
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from:         lori r shiraishi <lori.r.shiraishi@jpl.nasa.gov>
subject:      nigc: ani difranco mailing list info

   ani list info:

   to subscribe:

   send message to <majordomo@world.std.com>

   with text:

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   you'll get the automated welcome message and info pack.

   come on over...

   lori
   <lori.shiraishi@jpl.nasa.gov>
   who just saw ani perform at the sold-out wiltern in la on fri, and
   at a stop prop 209 rally in westwood yesterday.

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 08:26:49 -0800
reply-to:     mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>
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subject:      presents for me

there was a record/cd collectors convention in seattle this weekend, and i
always go to these, but have been afraid of boots up until now.  i decided
to face my fear,  and now i own two cd boots, among the other things i
picked up.

i paid $45 for both of these and have no idea if that is good or not.
*  indigo girls - blood and fire cd  (recorded live at university of
oregon, eugene, 1993)
*   complicated  girls (multiple venues put together by someone who is not
on the clue-bus...most of the song titles are wrong)

i also got (at $20 for all three):
ig- breaking curfews
joan baez columbia radio hour from sept. '95 (just three songs...but one is
"welcome me")
dar williams - the christians and the pagans (only three songs...but cool
picture disk)

i was quite surprised to see a diverse collection of stuff there.  i saw
both of the boots i bought at other tables for $25 - 30, and one of the
boots i didn't get which had uptown lounge stuff on it.  there was a copy
of a belloluna cd, watershed single, danielle howle cd (which i already
have), cheryl wheeler, catie curtis, ferron (the one with emily on it),
ani,.....  unfortunately, my funds were limited.  however, i will probably
make it to the next one which  i think is in lake city on 11/17.

betsy


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 08:37:49 -0800
reply-to:     karen tongson-mccall <ktongson@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
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subject:      amy sighting!

a slave to my cigarette addiction, i hopped out on to the outdoor terrace of
the berkeley community theater where ani was playing this saturday night.
(it was intermission of course). shortly thereafter, i notice someone
standing in the doorway peering over the crowd as if she's looking for
somebody. for some reason she looks damn familiar. it's not until i take a
close look at the face and longish hair that i notice, it's amy ray, and
she's only 6 feet away from me!!! i was flustered...plus i had a nasty
cigarette in my hand and i didn't want to disturb her in the context of an
ani show. i'm sure she really wanted to  just kind of lay low. nobody
approached her. i started to walk gradually towards her, but she chose to
give up on whoever it was she was looking for and walked away down the
stairs. she didn't noptice me coming towards her direction. i told my
partner jill to go look out the door, and we both stood there watching her
descend the stairs. whew! as if an incredible ani show wasn't enough!

amy's much taller than i imagined, and was wearing a print shirt with a
predominantly white background, (i believe the print was paisley-esque), and
the jacket she wore on the tonight show a couple of years back when ig
performed "power of two." she looks good! ;) i could kick myself for not
saying anything, but she probably felt much safer not being pestered. ah
well. i suppose i'll have to devise some sort of strategy to be polite, yet
fulfill my needs as an admirer for the next time i come across an indigo girl!

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 11:44:17 -0500
reply-to:     the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
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from:         the good queen bess <sadler@email.unc.edu>
subject:      re: shades of indigo
x-to:         catherine diederich <cath@efn.org>
in-reply-to:  <32741f12.2278@efn.org>

catherine,

        in exchange for the opportunity to copy your shades of indigo cd,
i would give you one of my boots on cd.  would you like reverse 1 live or
under the moonlight?  reverse 1 live is really good.  i recommend it.  i
will also have some other stuff coming in soon, if you would rather have
any of it.

        it would be really great if you would mail the cd to me and let me
copy it (no data loss, i'm putting in on another cd), but if you feel
uncomfortable a tape would be fine.

        would you be interested in this exchange?  please email me.
thanks.

--bess


on sun, 27 oct 1996, catherine diederich wrote:

> hi y'all
>         i found a couple of discs at a store in eugene, one is "shades of
> indigo"  the other a promo single of "watershed"(never opened). i had
> never seen soi, it has ig interviewed by shawn colvin on 8 tracks,6 live
> tracks and 2 studio tracks.  it was released in '90.  is this something
> everybody has heard of and heard?  are there a lot of other discs
> available in stores that i may not know about? (aside from the ten or so
> "standards" i have)  anyway if anyone wants to hear it let me know, or
> if i'm way behind on this one let me know also!  i would love to start
> trading for some boots, is this something i could get started with???
>                         cath
> "...who loves us, nobody"
>         a & e
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 12:16:42 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      joan morrison, attention joan morrison...

sorry to bother the list, but joan, i ither lost your correct email or my
last email from last week never made it your way -- please email me at your
earliest convience - mike reynolds

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 09:11:04 -0800
reply-to:     regina shelley <rshelley@oregon.uoregon.edu>
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from:         regina shelley <rshelley@oregon.uoregon.edu>
subject:      ig matchmaking

apparently, ig concerts are great places to meet your future significant
other.  when i found out about ig playing in portland at a very
underadvertised benefit concert for the indigenous women's network, i bought
two tickets and asked one of my friends to go.  while we were there, my
friend (i'll call her marie) met a friend of a friend of friend when we
unexpectedly ran into the first (original) friend.  we only talked briefly,
but a day or so later, this women (i'll call her paula) called marie and
they began an intriguing long-distance relationship (paula lived in seattle
and marie lived in oregon).  after flights back and forth, paula moved even
further away to san francisco, but the relationship continued.  finally,
paula moved to san francisco to be with marie--they are engaged and the
committment ceremony is this coming summer.  and all because i took marie to
an ig concert!!

on a similar note, when i was at bumbershoot, i struck up an ig related
conversation with the woman standing next to me at the ig concert, and she
asked me out for drinks after the concert!!  so, i believe that ig concerts
are great places for matchmaking!!

does anyone have similar stories about meeting partners at ig concerts??

--reggi
*********************
usa women's soccer #1
*********************

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 12:33:18 -0600
reply-to:     alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
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from:         alycia <anb038@nwu.edu>
subject:      don't give that girl a gun

does anyone have the chords to "don't give that girl a gun?"
i would really love to have them -- the song is eating at me.

thanks
alycia

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i made a bad connection
she says i went astray
jumped ship, abandoned my post
i didn't think i'd lost my way
                                 - amy ray

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 11:11:00 -0800
reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      how to boot (nigc)

to:  anyone who is semi-pro at booting shows and willing to help me get
started!

okay, so i'm interested in a couple of local bands in my area and was
just wondering what kind of basic equipment you guys use to boot shows.
we're talking small time venues here:  pizza joints, college meeting
rooms, bars, community halls, etc.  are little recorders (like for taping
lectures) good enough to start with, or do you really need something
better with a hand-held mic?

also, should i ask them first if they mind people taping, since i have
talked to one of the women before and she always remembers me when she
sees me....the only thing with that is that i'd be afraid they'd say no.
then i'm stuck.  what are your opinions on this kind of small-time
booting?  reply privately so as not to wbw.

thanks,
marianne
the lone coyote
mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 10:25:27 -0900
reply-to:     chandra stone <fscjs1@aurora.alaska.edu>
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from:         chandra stone <fscjs1@aurora.alaska.edu>
subject:      bumbershoot

i was wondering if someone could email me privately with the list of songs
that are on the bumbershoot boot.  if it wouldn't be any trouble...

thanks,
chandra

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 15:30:57 +0500
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subject:      future tour dates-cd's

hi ya'll,

i am a new ig fan.  my best friend brought me to their concert at roseland
in ny this past august and i instantly fell in love with their music.  so
being a new fan i don't know anything about them.  could someone plaese
e-mail me all the names of their cd's in the stores.  also if anyone has any
info on them touring it would be appreciated.  thanks for bearing with my
ignorance.  i have learned a lot already from this listserv.  thanks.

stacey
svamvas@vt.edu

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 15:53:55 -0500
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subject:      good music weekend!!

hey y'all-
   i just had to share with y'all about my wonderful weekend.  i spent all
day saturday making the tape for my friend of ig songs,  (thanks to everyone
who made suggestions)  and on sunday i went to media play to exchange my tame
yourself cd (luckily, there was one left).  then i found jcs to my disbelief
and i bought that too...which rocks.  later i went to my local used record
store and found a peter mulvey cd (whom i saw opening for dar) for only 6.00.
also at that store were two (count them, two) ig swamp ophelia tees!!!  i
was so excited!!!  when i got home i turned on the radio to the local college
station and they were playing a song that escapes me now from the honor1 cd.
after the song was over, the dj said something about daemon records and how
amy started it to give back to the music industry.  i was excited, this much
indigo doesn't happen that often.  thanks for letting me share,
*lou*
*************************************************"it is of immense importance
that we laugh at ourselves."  katharine mansfield

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 16:22:13 est
reply-to:     mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
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from:         mary clark <mryclrk@eden.rutgers.edu>
subject:      you know you're an obsessed fan when...

you know you're an obsessed fan when you slog through hundreds of messages
about hairstyles, dreams, the biblical context of homosexuality, the pc-ness
of baseball teams, the horror of chain mail, the color of m&m's, and the
heated arguments over whether any of the aforementioned is relevent, just so
you can find the occasional post about tour dates, new songs and album
release/merchandise info.
mc

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 21:46:45 +0000
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: questions...
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in-reply-to:  <pine.a41.3.95.961028094622.158678a-100000@login1.isis.unc.edu>

on mon, 28 oct 1996, the good queen bess wrote:

> isn't it actually a really old gospel song? (i could be wrong.) but you're
> right, woodie guthrie sang it and made it famous.

yes it is.   woody did sing it, and so did sister rosetta tharpe, a gospel
and blues singer and a fantastic guitarist.

mat

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| mts5@aber.ac.uk         \   for anyone, an absentee boss is best."   |
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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 17:09:40 -0500
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from:         ginyvita@aol.com
subject:      re: get your flames ready,
              but i feel like this needs to be said - nigc

alec writes:

>i think it's pretty hypocritcal to say that all gays deserve
>the rights of all straight people. or all women deserve the rights of all
>other people.  what are you saying?  gay's aren't people?  women aren't
>people?  stop making yourselves a category.  goddamit, it gets me so damned
>angry when someone thinks that the way to solve a problem is by promoting
>it.  any gay rights group is helping do the work of anti-gay groups.  by
>extracting yourselves from the global community, your making yourselves a
>target.  look at them, they're different.

i've been reading these posts and choosing not to participate.  i will say
i've thought each post has made a contribution to the discussion.  the
preceeding comment does rouse me to point out a few things.

i would generally tend to agree with alec's diatribe which i believe points
to the self gettoization of diverse groups.  i agree because i think we need
to know each other as individuals.  nonetheless, the coments made above do
not acurately define the purpose and intent of certain groups who seek to
serve the needs of those of us who are regulary judged by a society who see
us as perverse or at least different.

for example, until such a time when candidates like senator helms no longer
feel the need to make homosexuality a campaign issue we need "groups" to
provide the oppostion with funds to support candates who will at the least
not persecute someone based on who they love.   we know "groups" such as the
christian coaltion provide helms with funding (tax free i might add) which
allow him to continue to denounce us as deviates who are not equal to or
deserving of the same rights as our straight, white counterparts.  these
would be "special" things like employment and housing.  another case in point
would be the employees in those godawful cracker barrell restaurants, which i
hope none of you are patronizing.

sadly, i think it is idealistic at this point in history to say 'if we don't
bring it up no one will notice we're gay or black or physically challenged.'
if we don't bring it up, no one will - and let me tell you right now this is
all about political advocacy - thinks we care enough when someone loses a job
due to his/her sexual orientation to do something about it or vote
accordingly for someone who might legislate change.

alec...do you honestly think african americans would be in the same place
without dr. kings efforts and the civil rights movement in the 60's?  did
that happen by sitting back and assimilating?  i believe assimilation happens
when no one notices anymore and unfortunately most of white america still
notices.

not sitting at the back of the bus...rosa parks is still alive you know.

michelle

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 14:14:43 -0800
reply-to:     "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
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from:         "karen a. vittek" <kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
subject:      ani/amy ray questions (some igc)

for those of you who have seen amy at ani concerts, i'm going to an ani
show this wednesday here at the univ. of oregon and i was wondering if
there was any place in particular i should look for amy!  i'd never
approach her, but i'm just curious to see if she shows up.  i know she's
been doing this fairly frequently so...anyway...please email me privately
and not to the list!

also, what's the status on the emily demo tape boot?  i saw a whole bunch
of stuff about it last week but the info seems to have dropped off (or i
missed it!). anyone who can update me, please write to my email address
and not to the list!

thanks!
k
kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu

_________________________________________________________________________
replace the rent with the stars above               are you on fire
replace the need with love                          from the years
replace the anger with the tide                     what would you give
for the ones that you love                          for your kid fears?
the ones that you love                              what would you give?

-ar-

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 17:23:31 -0500
reply-to:     michael anthony leonard <ml5x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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from:         michael anthony leonard <ml5x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
subject:      cd/tour updates?

hey folks,
    so what is the scoop exactly?  when is the cd coming out?  when does
the "spring tour" begin?  where are our insiders when we need them?

starving for new ig music (but still loving the old)
mike

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 15:32:24 -0800
reply-to:     steve moore <whoadave@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         steve moore <whoadave@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: the gift of music

>i was wondering if there are any others out there who learned to play
>guitar as a direct result of hearing ig.

i started guitar lessons this month--decided to do it while listening
to "reunion" a couple of months ago and thinking, "i gotta learn how to
make those sounds!"

>i also learned how to sing harmony from listening to a & e.  can
>anyone relate?

i attribute my ability to sing harmony entirely to sf--especially "left
me a fool" and "you left it up to me."

great thread idea, carrie!
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have access to my dementia?"--george costanza

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 15:34:02 -0800
reply-to:     shafer@kingsnet.com
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from:         carrie shafer <shafer@kingsnet.com>
subject:      you know you're obsessed when...

i haven't seen this one posted before:

you know you're an obsessed ig fan when you go out and buy one of those
timex "indiglo" watches just because - well, you get the picture...

;)  carrie

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 15:54:39 -0800
reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc birthday list

hey y'all,
i'm taking over the birthday list.  i've gotten the names together so far
for november, so i'll be starting on friday.  for everyone who's been
missed during this interim, i'm really sorry.  for the newbies, what this
is is, when it's your birthday, a greeting gets posted.  i'm not gonna
promise to get the exact day, but within 2 or 3 at least.  this is what
my next one might look like:

***********
april 21
karey@u.washington.edu (karey eals) happy 21st!
everything that i believe crawls from underneath the streets,
everything i truly love comes from somewhere far above.
everything that i believe is wrong with you is wrong with me,
everything i truly love i love in you and i love in me....


(hand me downs)
***********

i.e., your email address, your name, your age (if you give the year), and
then a quote from your favorite song (or whatever thing you may want to
send me).

so if you want this handy-dandy community creating service to include you,
go 'head and email me privately.  and if your @ddress has changed, let's
say in the past year, you should prolly let me know.  also if you have any
other alterations you want in your entry.

as to the earlier stuff i missed when everyone was telling everybody what
sign they were, as soon as i get the entire birthday list together i'll be
able to give that info to anyone who would like it.  if it matters. ;)

i like the birthday list b/c it's one way to express the feelings of
community we get from this list.  of course, the subject heading will
always include nigc so those that don't want to read the birthday
greetings can skip 'em.  so no flames.

happy to be the new birthday goddess,
love,
karey
(just got my flu shot--i was such a big girl and didn't even cry!)

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date:         tue, 29 oct 1996 11:06:42 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      re: possible cause for geko spam

mat wrote:
>i think i may know the reason why the geko company spammed us with that
>advert.   one of their former employees (i won't say who, but many will
>know who i'm on about) used to (or may still be) subscribed to this list,

why, mat, are you blaming me?  there certainly is no love lost indeed, but
that's not the reason for the spam.  by the looks of it they've managed to hit
every last remote corner of the 'net - everyone i've spoken to has gotten at
least one copy of the spam, along with all the related flame-mail that's been
bouncing around.

in fact the reason for the spam is simple:  they are morons, nothing more or
less than that.  also i think it would be ascribing a lot more importance to
myself than i really have, to think that they'd do something like that just to
get back at me.  their level of subtlety is more like holding off returning my
income tax documents until last week - three months after they were required
by law to give them back, and 6 months after they told me they'd give them
back.  but that's just the kind of people they are.

-sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"so don't you give up now, don't you give in,
give yourself time now and you will love the skin you're livin' in.
don't you lay down now, don't you lay low,
attend the sky now and you'll have more than you'll ever know."
                                                             - susan werner

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 19:29:28 -0500
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subject:      re: tuesday child?
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didn't someone (pretty anal retentive) post that they calculated the
days of a and e's b-days and neither were born on tuesdays?
or is it just an evil figment of my imagination....
-mandy
(who really is a tuesday's child!)

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on thu, 24 oct 1996, sweet pea wrote:

> so "what have you heard?" and been *surprised* at!  granted, it's great to
> hear any ig song.  but what "less popular" songs have you heard?  (i.e.
> not galileo, lc, po2...)

we've got a great alternative rock station out here (albany, ny) that has
recently been playing quite a lot of ig.  the other day they played tried
to be true.  a few days later i heard hammer and a nail and there was
something else uncommon that i can't remember right now 'cause my brain
is fried. btw, the station is 102.7 weqx from manchester vt.  listen to
it if you're in range.  there awesome!

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because median cats were growling at him.


                                                tuesday's child

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> >i was wondering if there are any others out there who learned to play
> >guitar as a direct result of hearing ig.

i've begun trying to teach myself to play guitar, thanks of course to the
girls.  it's not easy, though, when you're a beginner and you want to play
ig songs.  it's kind of funny, actually, you'd laugh too if you heard my
version of strange fire!
>
> >i also learned how to sing harmony from listening to a & e.  can
> >anyone relate?

yes!!  i've always wanted to sing alto, and learn low harmonies, but the
only harmonies i could ever pick out were high ones (like em's).  now,
thanks again to the girls, i'm becoming a pro at hearing & singing the
low harmonies (a la amy)  =)

the lone coyote

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subject:      ig-related transcripts

hi, all

i'm at work in the transcript office at school and thought i'd write to
share my daily experience with transcripts reminding me of the girls.
(there was that one time awhile back when someone took a class called
history of us)

today i looked on someone's spring semester and they took a class called
southern confed, but it looked like this:

spring semester 19--
      southern confed

so of course i thought of southland in the springtime.  then as i was
laughing about how much stuff on transcripts reminds me of the girls, i
saw the most obvious one of all.  the sociology department abbreviates
their classes soc.  need i say more?

happy indigo day
=) the lone coyote

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> request ig on the kmtt all the time, and never hear my request (and i
> always pick something that i know they have).  we were wondering if maybe
> their is a huge lack of marketting for them.

this happens here in chicago as well. the only song i have ever heard
played on the radio (an alternative station) and quite frequently was
'galileo'. i was rather miffed, not only that this was the only song that
ever made it big, but that it was mixed in among, imho, crap like green
day (no flames please, just my opinion). also, they never publicize their
appearances at the metro and such. i always seem to find out the day of
the show that they are playing and by then, can't get tickets. what is up
with this?

jen

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don watts wrote:
>
> in response to nicholas dishler's question about maryland, i am in
> cockeysville, maryland. anyone else?
>
> don
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i'm not in maryland, but am close enough--northern va.  :-)

kelly

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subject:      bmhawk single/tame yourself
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does anyone know if there is a sing;e out there with bury my heart at
wounded knee and a version of thin line that's not on 1200 curfews. i
found the promo which has bmhawk, the dressing room "thin line" and the
live bmhawk, all of which are from 1200 curfews. if the single does
exitst, does anyone know where i could find it?

also, i've been trying to find tame yourself on cd for the longest time
and i can't seem to do it. any suggestions?


peter a. barta
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crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
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                                                - suzanne vega

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subject:      this train

<<isn't it actually a really old gospel song? (i could be wrong.) but you're
right, woodie guthrie sang it and made it famous.

--bess
(who used to sing this song in choir, and likes the ig version a lot more)

on mon, 28 oct 1996 margotll@aol.com wrote:

>    this train was a woodie guthrie song. or maybe that was in a dream. can
> anyone back me up on this one?
>
> peace,
> margot>>

on so & 1200c it says this train revised written by amy ray.

on sony's ig webpage in the album info section at
http://www.sony.com/music/artistinfo/indigogirls/so.html, it says:

"this train (revised)" is swamp ophelia's closing song--and will doubtless
prove to be its most controversial. not since captain beefheart's "dachau
blues" has a piece of popular music addressed the subject of the holocaust
with such emotional force and searing detail. the amy ray song was inspired
by a visit to the holocaust museum in washington, d.c. "i'd studied the
holocaust when i was college, but the museum took my interest one step
further," she says. "i had to get these feelings out of my system."

based on the traditional gospel song of the same title, "this train"'s
lyric cites gypsies and homosexuals as well as jews among the nazis'
victims. "that was important to me. there's a lot now being uncovered about
the homosexual
experience of the holocaust and how it affected those survivors who'd been
listed as what they called a '175-er'. at the museum it's made very clear
that although jews were by far the main victims of the holocaust, there
were many others too."

so everyone's right, it's a based on a gospel song, woodie gutrie sang it,
& a wrote this version.

but they use the parentheses on this page...i'm still wondering about that
one...maybe the original was called this train (revised), & amy's version
is called this train revised.  anyone know?

andi

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please add me to your mailing list.

   thank you

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subject:      jcs video

ok, i have a request. i remember at one point in time someone had posted
an address from which you could order the jcs resurrection video. i seem
to have lost that message. could someone pretty please email me privately
with that info? thanks!

peace, love, and light... jen

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in a message dated 96-10-28 18:37:11 est, whoadave@ix.netcom.com (steve
moore) writes:

>>i was wondering if there are any others out there who learned to play
>>guitar as a direct result of hearing ig.
>
>

   i did. my mom used to play joan baez all the time, and i used to take my
dad's classical guitar and attempt to hammer out her songs and others when i
was little. then i started playing the violin, and the guitar thing was
somewhat forgotten. when i was 17, i got rop on a recommendation from a
friend, and the first time i listened to it, especially romeo and juliet, i
told my mom i wanted guitar lessons. i loved that cd, and eventually got the
others. i started taking lessons (finally) this january when i could pay for
them. the first song i learned to play was strange fire.
   this brings up another possible thread: what was the first ig song you
learned on the guitar?


peace,
margot

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subject:      re: jcs video

on  mon, 28 oct 1996 16:39:42 -0600, jen writes:

>ok, i have a request. i remember at one point in time someone had posted
>an address from which you could order the jcs resurrection video. i seem
>to have lost that message. could someone pretty please email me privately
>with that info? thanks!

this is the address that will take you right to the order form on the
daemon records website.

<http://monsterbit.com/cgi-bin/mailmerge.cgi/daemon/daemonorder>

or you can just go to the daemon website and look around:

<http://monsterbit.com/daemon/>

betsy

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closer to fine :)


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>    this brings up another possible thread: what was the first ig song you
> learned on the guitar?
>

the first one i could hack through was "three hits".  the first one i could
half-way play was "welcome me".

trant

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subject:      re: the gift of music

at 09:28 am 10/29/96 -0600, you wrote:
>>    this brings up another possible thread: what was the first ig song you
>> learned on the guitar?>


i learned two in the same day

blood and fire

hey jesus

live long, love hard, play safe!!
melissa a.giles

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in a message dated 96-10-29 09:40:17 est, you write:

<< > request ig on the kmtt all the time, and never hear my request (and i
> always pick something that i know they have). >>

once i called up kmtt during a "theme park" on the word "welcome"
the d.j. told me he had never heard of "welcome me" or n*i*s.

unbelievable...

i figure that they will play your request if it's on their playlist. it sucks
i'm fed up with mainstream radio....kaos (plug, plug) (even though
it has a broadcast range of 15 feet ;) played ig's
version of "it wont take long" for me (well, i did have to go down to
the station with the cd :) (but they are pretty good about it)
their only drawback is that they have a policy to play 90 %
independant stuff and ig doesn't qualify (but daemon does :).

i'd like to see a cover story on amy ray in a national magazine
where she talks about music, business and activism...she has
done so much and  desevses the attention...i'd also like to
see them perform "blood quantum" on snl and have ulali
or indigenous do a second number.

maybe i will write some national mags and suggest a cover
story...but remember when there seemed to be an organized
fan effort to get coverage in rolling stone when 1200 curfews
came out ?? the magazine was pretty snotty about it...
kind of like "heh, heh...ig fans are such geeks". i wonder
if the music press isn't just miffed that ig has the nerve
to be popular without being 'officially' sanctioned by them ?????

just bein' cynical :)
lovebinky
" i've got to have those puppies !!!!!"
(c. de ville)

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subject:      (ligc): need to find band info online? (was ani list)

oops...thought i sent this to the list...i'll try again...

at 12:30 am 10/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>abigail,
>
>        i don't know if you have this info already, but there *used* to be
>an ani list at <ani-l@arabica.ucs.indiana.edu>.  i was subscribed, and i
>never unsubscribed, but i just stopped getting messages quite a while ago,
>so i don't know if it was dissolved and the listmod never told anyone or
>what.  hope this helps.

ok...for anyone looking for band info, especially mailing list and web page
info, i recommend going to:
http://ubl.com/

it is the ultimate band list page. you can search by band/artist and get
huge lists of info. ani's specific page is:
http://ubl.com/artists/001109.html

her mailing list is:

ani difranco mailing list
majordomo@world.std.com (subscribe ani-difranco)
  -or-
(subscribe ani-difranco-digest)

hope this helps...

.eric

now playing:  indigo girls - swamp ophelia
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subject:      re: strange places you hear ig

ok, it's not so strange... but a wonderful surprise as i was listening to a
rock/alt. rock station this am in philly and waiting to hear schoolhouse rock
songs (they kept promising), and as i pull into the parking lot at work they
announce the schoolhouse rock songs will be on next... but first, the indigo
girls!!!! ctf, buy hey, it was quite unexpected and a great way to start the
day (first ctf, then conjunction junction!).

maria

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subject:      hola

hello listies!!
just wanted to drop a line from ecuador, for those of you who know
me.  i can t access the list, so i ll just have to wonder what s
going on in olist land.o  i don t want to know about the show s i ll
be missing, thanks!  just thought you all would want to know that
before i arrived, no one knew who the heck the ig were, but now,
there are indian children in the highlands of the andes who know and
some urban kids too.  the think the music is omuy lindao.  okay,
y'all...take care.  bye bye  (write to me sharon and carolyn!)

miranda detore
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subject:      re: blue women and the ties that bind...for sunny in nm

of course i am who i claim to be...that's right, none other than idgie
(andrea)who drove 16 hours one way to see the girls in nm just to get back into
the car and drive back.

by the way, the boots were terrific sunny!  except i can hear myself singing
just a bit to loud and off key!  (what can i say except that i was
excited!!!!!)

"missouri loves you"  how can amy and emily forget us???  and i'm the one who
carried a laminated picture of emily and i in my wallet...cool, eh?

;)

andrea

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from:         yen m tang <ymt2@lehigh.edu>
subject:      first ig song on guitar

>   this brings up another possible thread: what was the first ig song you
>learned on the guitar?

i wanted to learn 10,000 wars and i did. except i didn't play it the emily way.
i still don't. but instead of saying "i'm just a beginner," now i cite
"individual creative artistic freedom." :)


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                        willing to believe the story of the big strong man."
                        -susan werner

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subject:      if you are emailing or are joan morrison...

could you please email me to tell me i have the right address? i am trying
(despirately) to finish a trade for some non ig video i really,really want
(this person whom said videos are of could totally blow away any "you know
your an obsessed fan when" with some of the stuff i have done) (he still
talks to me and answers phone calls...
so if you know joan morrison, have her please email me,
thanks
i owe you all
mike r.

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subject:      first guitar song

mine was strange fire

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subject:      nigc - stonewall riots

g'day all

can some of you help me with some american history.

i have just read a piece by victoria brownworth on the 25th aniversary of the
stonewall riots - but it assumed knowledge that i lack - can any of you fill me on
on some detail

mail me privately

ta

sue (who can discourse on the eureka uprising which was  another  fight
against the repressive ruling classes but whose grasp of us history is a bit thin)

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subject:      you know you're an obsessed fan when...

you know you're an obsessed ig fan when...

you are tempted to steal the black cd divider that says "indigo girls"
from walmart.

i refrained, though. it would be much better for the girls if i left the
divider there.
amber

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subject:      indigo stuff

hi y'all

i was just wonderin' if any of you out there could tell
me where i could find any sort of rare ig recordings
(aka: bootlegs). as for the the "purchase" of any recordings
money is no object, well a reasonable amount is no object.
if ya' could help me out i would be very happy

contact me at my email address.
sarak@sentex.net

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there is a movie about this out called stonewall i do beelive its out in
theaters now


on wed, 30 oct 1996, susan jackel wrote:

> g'day all
>
> can some of you help me with some american history.
>
> i have just read a piece by victoria brownworth on the 25th aniversary of the
> stonewall riots - but it assumed knowledge that i lack - can any of you fill me on
> on some detail
>
> mail me privately
>
> ta
>
> sue (who can discourse on the eureka uprising which was  another  fight
> against the repressive ruling classes but whose grasp of us history is a bit thin)
>
> ____________________
>
> i will not lie down, i will not go quietly
> -caroline aiken
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subject:      re: you know you're an obsessed fan when...

>you know you're an obsessed ig fan when...
>
>you are tempted to steal the black cd divider that says "indigo girls"
>from walmart.
>

then i must be beyond obsessed because i actually did take one. mine's from
the wall and it's red. :)

truth is, i'm not really obsessed in the least. i'm just a klepto.


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                        willing to believe the story of the big strong man."
                        -susan werner

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subject:      another story!!

hey everyone,

this may seem totally random to everyone, but i have to share this story
with everyone.  well it was last years newport fest and it was raining like
crazy.  one of my friends recognized that one of the bands was sitting
behind her-so she was determined to get their backstage passes-to make a
long story short she did.  she finally made it back stage and who's the
forst person she ran into, but emily.  she shook e's hand, but unfortunately
she didn't have time to chat.  then she looks over and see's amy standing
there.  she went over to her and she signed her book-and even has a great
picture of the two of them together-i am so jealous because i wasn't
there-oh well-someday.  does anyone have a similar story?

stacey
svamvas@vt.edu

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subject:      first song on guitar...

nashville!  thanks, ponygirl...:)
but you know, playing get together is really fun too
okay, fine, i admit, they're my only songs on guitar...:)  i'm a beginner at
that too :)
katy

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subject:      re: first song on guitar...
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i bought a guitar just so i could learn 'romeo and juliet'.  after i saw
the girls on the pier in seattle on aug 17, '94, i bought a guitar and
learned that song, thanks to adam schneider.  needless to say i've learned
a bunch of songs since then, even though that was the only song i thought
i'd learn (if only i could sing it).  now i'm obsessed!  5 guitars
later...

coming up for air from my thesis,
carolyn

p.s.  i know, if you want to get technical, it's a mark knopfler (sp?)
song, but hey, it's still one of my favorites to hear amy do.

p.p.s.  if anyone who filled out my survey is reading this, you rule!  you
totally saved me.  :)

have a great day all.

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subject:      1st song on guitar

world falls and then closer to fine.

i love learning all of them!

marian

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subject:      first indigo song

ah the memories....

the first ig song that i ever played was "welcome me"
and let me tell you it wasnt the last!

ps. (if anyone cares) whats your favorite ig
song to play?

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subject:      "special rights"
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> alec writes:
>
> >i think it's pretty hypocritcal to say that all gays deserve
> >the rights of all straight people. or all women deserve the rights of all
> >other people.  what are you saying?  gay's aren't people?  women aren't
> >people?  stop making yourselves a category.  goddamit, it gets me so damned
> >angry when someone thinks that the way to solve a problem is by promoting
> >it.  any gay rights group is helping do the work of anti-gay groups.  by
> >extracting yourselves from the global community, your making yourselves a
> >target.  look at them, they're different.

oh, yeah.  if black people had just acted _as if_ they had the same
rights as white people slavery certainly would have been abolished, and
without a war to boot!  those in power have really showed us that, after
trampling on someone for a while, they will stop because, you know, it's
just not nice.  if gay people would just act _as if_ they had the same
rights as straight people (the right to have sex legally, to not be fired
for being gay, the list goes on...) then there would be no problem....

yeah.  there would be no problem for whom?  homophobes?  if we all just
went back into the closet--into hiding--the general public could go on
living in a dream world, thinking we don't exist.  if only we could act
_as if_ we had the same rights as everyone else...

well, that's the key.  we'd have to act as if we had the same rights as
everyone else because we don't.  but maybe ignorance is truly bliss.

margaret

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on tue, 29 oct 1996, sara karges wrote:

> ps. (if anyone cares) whats your favorite ig
> song to play?

hammer and a nail.  i think i finally got that solo at the end.  though, as
usual, my strumming pattern is not quite the same as theirs, and i can't pick,
either.  but, it's still my favorite ig song to play.  makes me look cool. :)

anna

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laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?"  -jane swan

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subject:      first song on guitar

hello everyone, my first song was joking, probably because it's one of
the easiest.

while i'm at it, here's another thread.  i'm sure this must have been
asked in the past but i haven't seen it since i've been on the list.  if
it's been asked, maybe some of the newbies can respond.  anyway, i was
just wondering  if any of you guys had really wierd or funny stories of
how you were first introduced to ig.
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subject:      nigc- guitar question

okay, this may seem like a really stupid question, but the "first ig song
i learned to play" thread is really  rubbing a sore wound :)! i have
always wanted to learn to play the guitar, ever since i was 8 years old
and went to a pp&m concert. i never did it because i thought it would be
too hard (although i played piano for 5 years) and by the time i could be
serious about it, it seemed to "trendy" to attempt (oh no! not another
college student slaughtering a love song!) i had vocal training for a few
years, so my voice isn't awful... i don't mean to start lining up gigs
here, but i would like to learn to play for my own accompaniment (piano is
too difficult to sing and play at the same time except for elton john,
tori amos, and billy joel) and maybe pick up a new hobby which doesn't
require a hundred- pound instrument. so for all you guitar people out
there... was it difficult to learn? is it too late for me? are guitars
expensive (i have no idea!!?) don't worry, everybody.. i won't ask for you
phone numbers and call you and say, "hey, doesn't this sound just like
emily, and look, we have the same name.." i just would like a little
advice :) :) thanks in advance....

emily
who is happy to have returned to the list :)

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subject:      my first guitar song

jumping on the bandwagon here, my first song was blood and fire.  i had
gotten the latul video and kept rewinding to that song over and over...and
then i remembered that there was an old guitar that someone had given us
in our living room closet!  so i took it out and began to play...the rest is
history, and eventually i got a better guitar (one that looks like amy's
black
one(s)! =).  by the way, for any beginners out there, b & f is a great
beginner's song, because it only has a few easy chords. =)  if anyone has
chords to the new songs worked out, please e-mail me...i have picked up
the banjo (also from the living room closet =) and have figured out vaguely
how to play get out the map...

peace, love, and indigo days,
ponygirl

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subject:      re: "special rights" - delete if politics offends or bores you

> > stop making yourselves a category.  goddamit, it gets me so damned
> >angry when someone thinks that the way to solve a problem is by promoting
> >it.  any gay rights group is helping do the work of anti-gay groups.  by
> >extracting yourselves from the global community, your making yourselves a
> >target.  look at them, they're different.

>oh, yeah.  if black people had just acted _as if_ they had the same rights as
>white people slavery certainly would have been abolished, and without a war to
>boot!  those in power have really showed us that, after trampling on someone
>for a while, they will stop because, you know, it's just not nice.  if gay people
>would just act _as if_ they had the same rights as straight people (the right to
>have sex legally, to not be fired for being gay, the list goes on...) then there
>would be no problem....

>yeah.  there would be no problem for whom?  homophobes?  if we all just
>went back into the closet--into hiding--the general public could go on living in a
>dream world, thinking we don't exist.  if only we could act _as if_ we had the
>same rights as everyone else...

>well, that's the key.  we'd have to act as if we had the same rights as
>everyone else because we don't.  but maybe ignorance is truly bliss.

margaret

i'll buy into this nigc one too.  if disabled people acted like they were abled then
they'd get the funding they need to assist them without having to fight or have
someone fight on their behalf.  if oppressed workers in indonesia just acted like
they had the right to fair pay, safe conditions, union representation and
compulsory enforcable arbitration in case of dispute then they'd get it.  the
principle is the same.

employers the world over since the dawn of time have tried to rip their workers
off and history suggests that standing up and fighting and making loud
emabarrassing noises is the only way to get a fair go in a workplace.  silence
only leads to more oppression.  the principle is the same.

no oppressed group - gays, lesbians, disabled, unskilled workers, trade
unionists, migrants, etc etc wish to remove themselves from the global
community.  but for all these groups plus the others i haven't listed there is an
oppressing class and unless we all fight there will be no justice for anybody.

lets shut the dykes up, lock up the disabled in institutions, fire the workers if
they complain about the noxious fumes they have to breath, break up the trade
unions and send the migrants back to where they came from.

let's look at the mclibel case in england - a worker was electrocuted in a mcds
store in london - the inquest found it was an accident  -  and then the internal
mcds report was leaked that said safety in-store was not an issue - the family
are now screaming for a new inquest.

be silent - i think not.

sue

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in a message dated 96-10-29 23:03:56 est, sarak@sentex.net (sara karges)
writes:

>ps. (if anyone cares) whats your favorite ig
>song to play?

   well, mine used to be romeo and juliet, but now it's closer to fine (i
think). i love playing them all, though (the strumming ones, that is :-) )!

peace,
margot

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well, my introduction is neither funny nor weird, so was simply
recommended to me by a friend, and i was in the cd buying mood, and i
loved least complicated, so i said what the hell?, bought it, and that may
have been one of the best spur of the moment decisions i've ever made.
well, anyway, i can tell you about how someone i know was introduced to
ig, although this isn't funny or weird either.  oh well.  here goes
anyway.  i was up visiting a bunch of friends at suny binghamton last
spring break, including the one who introduced me to ig, and we were all
singing along to so (each with our designated parts, i think i was the
drummer or something) while standing on the furniture in the suite,
dancing.  it was actually a pretty funny scene, i'm sure, the people
in the study lounge kept looking at us like we were going just a bit
loony.  well, anyway, their suitemate wasn't familiar with ig at all, but
we didn't want to leave her out, so we handed her to lyrics so she could
sing along as well.  and sure enough (and isn't this just indicative of
the power of ig's music), that night, she had fare thee well playing on
repeat.  ahh, another convert...

veronica

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subject:      re: gift of music

        hi y'all...i'm going to address both current guitar threads here...

        first...i bought a guitar about a year ago for the express purpose
of learning ig songs...i had all the songbooks anyway and figured i would
self-teach myself into guitar profiecency with ig music...
        a year later and i'm still an awful guitar player with even more
respect (if that's possible) for the girls incredible talents on their
various instruments.

        on the up side...i can play various parts of their songs, though i
tend to favor amy's songs because of the simpler chords.  and just the other
night i managed to make it all the way through "three hits" without slowing
down the tempo too much.

        here's to sore fingertips, frustrating bar chords (for me anyway)
and lots of great ig music to attempt to play!!!

        jen

"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
     -amy ray

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subject:      re: first indigo song

if i could play - which i cant - it would have been closer to fine

sue (who is only political 95% of the time) :-)

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subject:      re: the gift of music

>>at 09:28 am 10/29/96 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>    this brings up another possible thread: what was the first ig song you
>>>> learned on the guitar?>
>
>
>romeo & juliet ala amy ray was my first song, and immediately
>followed by power of two.
>
>i had so much to learn when i got my guitar....i was completely musically
illiterate.  struggling the way i did to learn how to play just made me
appreciate ig's talents so much more, as well as all other musicians and
singers.
>
>-martha
>

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subject:      nigc-politics-chrysler corp

forgive this repost but i thought some of you may be interested
sue

>from: michrook@aol.com
>to: form.michigan@umich.edu
>cc: queerpolitics@abacus.oxy.edu;
>subject: *qp*: wall street journal article about chrysler
monday october 28
>date: sunday, october 27, 1996 4:55 pm
>================================
>greetings all,
>
>the wall street journal will have an article about chrysler's refusal
>to accept the united auto workers demand to add "sexual
>orientation" to the contract for protection, in the "marketplace"
>section (section b), monday october 28, 1996.the article will also
>highlight the intense discrimination/harassment that many of us have
>faced over the years and the refusal of chrysler corporation to do
>anything to stop this systematic/institutionalized discrimination.
>
>remember november 14, 1996 is the national day of protest at
chrysler
>dealerships worldwide.
>
>we have contact people in the cities of fairbanks and anchorage,
>alaska, boulder, colorado, winston/salem north carolina, ann
>arbor and auburn hills, michigan, san fernando valley,
>california, takoma park, maryland. but we need many more
>volunteers to organize pickets world wide. please volunteer to be
>a contact in your city.
>
>everyone please feel free to contact me with any comments and/or
>questions.
>
> sincerely,
> ron g. woods
> pride at work-midwest
> male co-chair
>

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subject:      fav. ig song to play is..

chickenman..i love to just release all my emotions, not caring how
terrible i sound and sing as loud as i can  while trying to be as
emotional about all the carnage as amy is.  anybody wanna scream backup
for me :)

nelson mcwhorter                                          inet: mcwhorte@mc.edu
box 4915                                             http://www.mc.edu/~mcwhorte
clinton, ms 39058                                 philosopher extraordinaire
"...love the truth more than you fear your own pain..." --unknown

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>ah the memories....
>
>the first ig song that i ever played was "welcome me"
>and let me tell you it wasnt the last!
>
>ps. (if anyone cares) whats your favorite ig
>song to play?


my favorite song to play is definitely "reunion" with "galileo" coming in as
a close second!!

- martha

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hi,

i was just watching a disturbing news report about certain people using the
school computer system at hofstra u. (in hempstead, ny) to spread
anti-semetic and racist messages.  i was wondering, for those of you who use
your university's computers for web access, what type of personal information
do you have to provide to your schools in order to have access to the
internet, email, etc.  i just find it unbelievable that the school can't
track down the nazi bastards who did this.

please email me privately. thanks.

-sheri :|

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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subject:      fwd: cookies (nigc)

okay, okay, so this has been forwarded to half of you already... in all
honesty i got this recipe about 6 months ago.  a friend and i actually made
the cookies and they are _really_ good... so enjoy! =)  peace, love, and
butter bis-, er, cookies, sarah

> >hi everybody--
>  >
>  >the message (forwarded to me)  includes the request that you forward it
to
>  >everyone you know.... also making the cookies is the best revenge.
>  >*                     *                     *                   *
>  >                  *                *
>  >
>  >my daughter & i had just finished a salad at neiman-marcus cafe in dallas
&
>  >decided to have a small dessert.  because both of us are such cookie
lovers,
>
>  >we decided to try the "neiman-marcus cookie".  it was so excellent that i
>  >asked if they would give me the recipe and the waitress said with a small
>  >frown, "i'm afraid not." well, i said, would you let me buy the recipe?
>  >with a cute smile, she said "yes." i asked how much, and she responded,
>  >"only two
>  >fifty, it's a great deal!"  i said with approval, just add it to my tab.
>  >thirty days later, i received my visa statement from neiman-marcus and it
>  >was $285.00.  i looked again and i remembered i had only spent $9.95 for
> two
>  >salads and about $20.00 for a scarf.  as i glanced at the bottom of the
>  >statement, it said, "cookie recipe - $250.00." that's outrageous!! i
called
>  >neiman's accounting dept. and told them the waitress said it was
>  >"two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty dollars"
by
>  >any
>  >*possible*  interpretation of the phrase. nieman-marcus refused to budge.
>  >they would not refund my money, because according to them, "what the
>  >waitress told you is not our problem.  you have already seen the recipe -
>  >we absolutely will not
>  >refund your money at this point."  i explained to her the criminal
statutes
>  >which govern fraud in texas, i threatened to refer them to the better
>  >business bureau and the state's attorney general for engaging in fraud.
i
>  >was basically told, "do what you want, we don't give a crap, and we're
not
>  >refunding your money." i waited, thinking of how i could get even, or
even
>  >try and get any of my money back. i just said, "okay, you folks got my
$250,
>
>  >and now i'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun."  i told her that i was
>  >going to see to it that every cookie lover in the united states with an
>  >e-mail
>  >account has a $250.00 cookie recipe from neiman-marcus... for free. she
>  >replied, "i wish you wouldn't do this." i said, "well, you should have
>  >thought of that before you ripped me off, and slammed down the phone on
her.
>
>  >
>  >so, here it is!!!  please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can
>  >possibly think of.  i paid $250 dollars for this... i don't want
>  >nieman-marcus to *ever* get another penny off of this recipe
>  >>
>  >>> > > >>>     (recipe may be halved.):
>  >>> > > >>>     2  cups butter
>  >>> > > >>>     4  cups flour
>  >>> > > >>>     2  tsp. soda
>  >>> > > >>>     2  cups sugar
>  >>> > > >>>     5  cups blended oatmeal**
>  >>> > > >>>     24 oz. chocolate chips
>  >>> > > >>>     2  cups brown sugar
>  >>> > > >>>     1  tsp. salt
>  >>> > > >>>     1  8 oz. hershey bar (grated)
>  >>> > > >>>     4  eggs
>  >>> > > >>>     2  tsp. baking powder
>  >>> > > >>>     3  cups chopped nuts (your choice)
>  >>> > > >>>     2  tsp. vanilla
>  >>> > > >>>     ** measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine
powder.
>  >
>  >>cream the butter and both sugars.  add eggs and vanilla; mix together
with
>  >>flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. add chocolate chips,
> hershey
>  >>bar and nuts.  roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie
> sheet.
>  >>bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees.
>  >>makes 112 cookies.
>  >
>  >have fun!!!  this is *not* a joke --- this is a true story..  ride free,
>  >citizen!


---------------------
forwarded message:
subj:    fwd: cookies
date:    96-10-29 23:06:16 est
from:    drpg
to:      digikratt,dynasysman,sanawike1
to:      cjrt

i thought y'all might find this tasty story interesting.

peter
---------------------
forwarded message:
from:   rauh@inch.com (whitney rauh)
to:     drpg@aol.com
date: 96-10-29 09:33:10 est

>from: iceteaprod@aol.com
>date: tue, 29 oct 1996 09:19:27 -0500
>to: rauh@inch.com
>subject: fwd: cookies
>
>i thought you would get a kick out of this
>
>rd
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>from:  mzornado@vinton.com (marilyn zornado)
>to:    garren@mail.teleport.com, 72507.525@compuserve.com, pfent8@aol.com,
>lucyv@eunice.vinton.com, sconklin@eunice.vinton.com,
luann@eunice.vinton.com,
>megan@eunice.vinton.com, matt@eunice.vinton.com, sbailey@eunice.vinton.com,
>paulh@eunice.vinton.com, barry@eunice.vinton.com, tiffany@eunice.vinton.com,
>carolyn@eunice.vinton.com, jimk@ocp.org, tuite@ix.netcom.com (don tuite),
>lorik@eunice.vinton.com, sfp@worldscope.co.uk, 102012.1406@compuserve.com,
>mallof@pop.portptld.com, cdennis@pcc.edu, perlj@aol.com, ahkjosness@bpa.gov,
>babs_parent@ccmailgw.wbfa.com, leopoldo@eunice.vinton.com, jgram2@pcez.com,
>libsimon@aol.com, bondwood@teleport.com, billyo@teleport.com,
>ahacallig@aol.com, charles_maclean@ortel.org, buzzzco@aol.com,
>blackdog@teleport.com, harpo@pe.net, iceteaprod@aol.com,
>bweave@islandnet.com, ssu@directnet.com, diwilson@aol.com,
>bweave@islandnet.com, fg@teleport.com, markg@eunice.vinton.com
>date: 96-10-28 22:05:53 est
>
>hi everybody--
>
>the message (forwarded to me)  includes the request that you forward it to
>everyone you know.... also making the cookies is the best revenge.
>*                     *                     *                   *
>                  *                *
>
>my daughter & i had just finished a salad at neiman-marcus cafe in dallas &
>decided to have a small dessert.  because both of us are such cookie lovers,
>we decided to try the "neiman-marcus cookie".  it was so excellent that i
>asked if they would give me the recipe and the waitress said with a small
>frown, "i'm afraid not." well, i said, would you let me buy the recipe?
>with a cute smile, she said "yes." i asked how much, and she responded,
>"only two
>fifty, it's a great deal!"  i said with approval, just add it to my tab.
>thirty days later, i received my visa statement from neiman-marcus and it
>was $285.00.  i looked again and i remembered i had only spent $9.95 for two
>salads and about $20.00 for a scarf.  as i glanced at the bottom of the
>statement, it said, "cookie recipe - $250.00." that's outrageous!! i called
>neiman's accounting dept. and told them the waitress said it was
>"two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty dollars" by
>any
>*possible*  interpretation of the phrase. nieman-marcus refused to budge.
>they would not refund my money, because according to them, "what the
>waitress told you is not our problem.  you have already seen the recipe -
>we absolutely will not
>refund your money at this point."  i explained to her the criminal statutes
>which govern fraud in texas, i threatened to refer them to the better
>business bureau and the state's attorney general for engaging in fraud.  i
>was basically told, "do what you want, we don't give a crap, and we're not
>refunding your money." i waited, thinking of how i could get even, or even
>try and get any of my money back. i just said, "okay, you folks got my $250,
>and now i'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun."  i told her that i was
>going to see to it that every cookie lover in the united states with an
>e-mail
>account has a $250.00 cookie recipe from neiman-marcus... for free. she
>replied, "i wish you wouldn't do this." i said, "well, you should have
>thought of that before you ripped me off, and slammed down the phone on her.
>
>so, here it is!!!  please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can
>possibly think of.  i paid $250 dollars for this... i don't want
>nieman-marcus to *ever* get another penny off of this recipe
>>
>>> > > >>>     (recipe may be halved.):
>>> > > >>>     2  cups butter
>>> > > >>>     4  cups flour
>>> > > >>>     2  tsp. soda
>>> > > >>>     2  cups sugar
>>> > > >>>     5  cups blended oatmeal**
>>> > > >>>     24 oz. chocolate chips
>>> > > >>>     2  cups brown sugar
>>> > > >>>     1  tsp. salt
>>> > > >>>     1  8 oz. hershey bar (grated)
>>> > > >>>     4  eggs
>>> > > >>>     2  tsp. baking powder
>>> > > >>>     3  cups chopped nuts (your choice)
>>> > > >>>     2  tsp. vanilla
>>> > > >>>     ** measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder.
>
>>cream the butter and both sugars.  add eggs and vanilla; mix together with
>>flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. add chocolate chips, hershey
>>bar and nuts.  roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie
sheet.
>>bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees.
>>makes 112 cookies.
>
>have fun!!!  this is *not* a joke --- this is a true story..  ride free,
>citizen!
>>>>>>>>liz fitzgerald
>>> > > >>major donor coordinator
>>> > > >>emily's list
>>> > > >><lfitzgerald@emilyslist.org>
>

whitneyr
qed

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subject:      nigc me and stuff

in case anyone is wondering those i owe tapes to im still gonna try get
them out soon but i still gott ago for more tests so far ive found out i
got 2 bulging disks in m y back
hugs anthony van pyre

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subject:      first ig song on guitar and fav to play

ok, they are one and the same...
jonas and ezekial

rosemary
villa diodati music
http://www.nternet.net/~albie

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subject:      re: gift of music

jen lucero wrote:

>frustrating bar chords (for me anyway)

me too!  me too!  me too!  me too!


mary

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http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/mainpage.html
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

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class of 1998

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subject:      re: fav ig song to play is...

chiiiiiickenmaaaaaaannnnnnnn!

how's that for a 1:25 am rant?

mary

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class of 1998

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subject:      re: gift of music

>jen lucero wrote:
>
>>frustrating bar chords (for me anyway)
>
>me too!  me too!  me too!  me too!
>
>
>mary


what is it about barre chords that are troubling?  maybe i can help???????????

-martha

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subject:      9/20 boot????

does anyone have a boot of the 9/20 concert in minneapolis for the honor1
relase??  i know there was talk of tape tree, but what ever happened to
that?

you know the routine... email me directly please...

rachel

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subject:      nigc - donna schwartz

sorry to post this to the list, but i have exhausted my other alternatives.

donna, please email me. you moved and i don't have your new address.
thanks,
bon

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from:         lori brinkman <lorbrink@iaw.com>
subject:      re: the gift of music

i was an ig fan long before i started to play the guitar, but once i decided
to pick it up (with the help of a friend), kid fears was the first thing i
learned (soon followed by ctf, sy, hj etc).  they definitely influenced my
harmony singing too - thanks amy for being in my vocal range - sorry emily,
i can't reach that high =-)  we even performed a couple of ig songs at a
talent night too.  they definitely are to thank for influencing me. now if i
can just find the time to pick up the guitar more often...
lori


"if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."
                                         sheryl crow

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subject:      web site address...

in a message dated 96-10-26 20:49:40 est, you write:

<< subject: boathouse

i just found this web site(pretty neat!!) has anyone out there been >>

uh, did i miss something in a previous digest?  please private email this web
page address to me.  thanks.

amy

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date:         tue, 29 oct 1996 01:20:58 -0500
reply-to:     "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
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from:         "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
subject:      more why did the chickenman cross the road

okay...here goes some more...

to sit two stories above the street.

to walk with the kids coming home from school.

'cause he was skippin' his class and runnin' from school.


mary  :)

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date:         mon, 28 oct 1996 23:21:13 -0600
reply-to:     ".eric" <thie0080@itlabs.umn.edu>
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subject:      (nigc) ani & utah phillips

i wouldn't post this, but i know a lot of you listen to ani.
if you havn't heard(of) it yet, ani released a new album last week with
utah phillips called the past didn't go anywhere. utah is a folk
singer/spoken word artist, whom she compiled a lot of live clips from and
put them to her own music. i think it is wonderful. he is brilliant, and
she did a beautiful job of putting his spoken word to music. it is a one of
a kind album.
oh well..back to programming homework...

.eric

now playing:  ani difranco and utah phillips - the past didn't go anywhere
     *****   must buy! very powerfull album...  ***

"we fight for freedom, which no good man would surrender, but with his life."

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subject:      as long as we are thinking of songs

as long as we are thinking of songs
we would like to hear a&e sing...
here's my .02

i would love to hear the old songs i used to hear
at girl scout camp.. especially tonite i've been
singing today.. which has an awesome harmony
or barges... another awesome harmony..
these were the first songs i heard on a guitar
as an impressionable 7 yr old...
when i became a counselor at camp.. we sang those and
indigos to the girls to put them to sleep...
*sigh* happy memories...
btw.. heard from another counselor at camp
that she knew a woman (another counselor in ga)
who was em's cousin and that at family reunions
they sang songs like that... *sigh*

singing myself to sleep
anjeanette
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subject:      first ig song on guitar...

it's going to be history of us, because even though i love that song but
don't really want to play it, it looks the easiest.  i have to learn it
before i go home (yikes) for thanksgiving so my parents can be introduced to
the ig.  they want to know that i haven't been neglecting my studies for just
anything.  ha.  i now realize at 24 that they will never stop owning me.

amy

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subject:      1st guitar song and intro. to ig

the first song that i learned on guitar was kid fears.  i have been at it
less than a year since i started playing, and i am not a guitar prodigy...
so it's all coming along very slowly.  (i'm taking a guitar class, but it
is classical guitar, the only kind offered at my school).  incidentally, my
instructor, who has unfounded disdain for "pop" music, showed us in class
last week how to play ctf!  yea!

and about interesting/ funny intro's to ig... about 6 years ago, i was on a
bus coming back from skiing at sunrise, az, when my best friend handed me
"ig" ono tape to "check out this song."  the song turned out to be "love's
recovery."  i kept rewinding
l.r. in the walkman all the way (over 4 hours) home.  i swear that i
listened to it a million times that night!

i like this thread, it gives me warm feelings of nostalgia.  i mean, what
if she had never given me that tape?  would it be possible that i could
have slipped through the cracks without ig music?  my life would be totally
different~  let's not even think about it!

kristen
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
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subject:      halloween-completelynigc

hi everyone...i'm delurking for a mo to ask a really important
question...

what can me and my housemate go to the fancy dress halloween party
as?!

we've been thinking of things for the last few days and nothing has
jumped out an hit us...except i did suggest going as ig, but she
almost killed me with a stare of 'oh no not _them_ again'...she's one
of those unfortunate ones that hasn't accepted the pure blessing of
having a major ig fan in her house...lets just say she hasn't asked
to borrow any of my cds/tapes yet!
anyway, back to my dilemma...any suggestions would be much
appreciated...
thanks
love helene

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date:         tue, 29 oct 1996 10:52:22 -0800
reply-to:     ferran nogueroles <fnoguerd@etsit.upv.es>
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subject:      re: more damage and video (igc only for  european listers)
x-cc:         "c:ferranmail"@etsit.upv.es

in response to:

*austin.  i think it will be about 3 hours long.  the only problem that i'm
*having is that i would very much like the european listees to be able to
*view a copy, and i have a video dubber for that branch already, but to
*convert a video from us format to pal format will cost around $45 for 3
*hours.  unfortunately, i personally do not have this money, i just quit my
*job 2 months ago to become a full time potter and so i am the starving
*artist type.  i am open to ideas as to how we can get this accomplished
*(carolyn, did anyone answer your pal problem?)

well,i have the chance to make the conversion from ntsc to pal video
format free,but (problems):

1-i have to move quite far(about 100 km) to do the conversion
(it's not my vcr,but my sister's who lives in other town)
2-it's only possible for me to go on weekends(bc between work & studies
i have a daily 8:00 to 22:00 timetable)
3-i'm not sure it works but i've done something similar (2 vcr & 1
euroconector to dub video tapes) and probably there won't be technical
problems.

if someone is in better position than i to make the video format conversion
,please tell it.if not,i'll be  pleased to do that but i am not able to
manage with the european video tree branch(bc i'm drowning with this
stressing timetable & i don't want to carry with more work).

well,that's all by now & greetings to the ig land!!

ferran nogueroles d'oliveira & monica soutto
<fnoguerd@etsit.upv.es>
generalitat valenciana,
valencia(really the catalan lands,but still spain)
europe

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reply-to:     florence bouvier xx/0 <fbouvi@egt.nl>
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from:         florence bouvier xx/0 <fbouvi@egt.nl>
subject:      playing guitar because of ig/flirting

hi y'all,   :)

carrie made me want to delurk by asking:
>i was wondering if there are any others
>out there who learned to play guitar as a direct result of hearing ig.
i learned playing before i knew ig's music...but they made me want to play in a
band. the past 7 months i've been playing in an acoustic trio and we cover
their songs, for me it's like a dream come true! we're not playing gigs yet
because we must get better first: we surely don't want to butcher their
music!!!  ;)

someone started a tread about picking up and flirting with e-mail:
about a year ago a girl (who isn't a listie anymore) posted a message and i
sent her directly my answer. she wrote back and that's how our e-mail
pen-friendship started. beside our interest for ig and guitar, we also had an
incredible amount of things in common. we started writing daily *huge* messages
and eventhough we had never met "in real life", it felt like we had known each
other for years! we both use e-mail at our jobs and sometimes it was difficult
to think about work because our messages were so much more exciting!! she has a
lot of humor and sometimes when i read her messages i really had to laugh and
my colleagues would say "florence has post again"! i was very inquisitive how
it would be when we finally would see each-other and hoped we would get along
because i was totally addicted to her messages! we both weren't looking for a
lover but after a while our writing got kind of teasing/flirting and i have to
admit that it *was* fun! after a few months we met and we both liked each
other...even more than we had expected. nothing happened between us but we
would see each other again after the summer vacation and knew that probably...
;)
eventually things turned out differently: she met her dream woman during the
vacation so we'll just remain friends. that was quite painfull for me but i
would do it all over again, those past months were fantastic! :)  now i do miss
the flirting/teasing part in our messages...but i'm so glad that thanks to the
ig list we got to know each other!  :)  i hope my story wasn't too long...

greetings from the netherlands!

florence.

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 08:06:40 est
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      jenn stevens please (nigc)

got a tape from you jenn, but what's it for? bumbershoot?

sorry, the rest of you....

susan :)

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subject:      hte at the shangri la

hi all. i got a bitchin copy of hte (just indigo girls with a little bonnie
raitt thrown in) at the shangri la. thanks to wendell :-)

anyhoo, i am happy to dub it for folks, unless i get inundated, and then i'll
maake a request for a tape tree....

xo xo xo and a side of fries,
susan

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      can't we get it right? (nigc)

okay friends, i have to say soemthing about this <ahem>

cookie recipes are non-igc to the nth degree,
but ya know?  its really okay with me
what just lays me flat on my back
is all the useless shit attached
don't add your header, your footer, the
        names,
of all of your friends in poughkeepsie and
                ames!!!
if you cannot get rid of all of that "noise"
then don't forward it, friends
computers ain't toys!

my poetics for the day. please don't forward stuff if you can't delete
unnecessary garbage attached (like "hey phil! i hought you might enjoy this! by
the way, how is your mom?"). its not a demand, its a request, one that i feel
certain other folks would agree with.

thanks, and have a nice day choochies

susan

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reply-to:     karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
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from:         karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
subject:      1st ig songs

        i've been enjoying the threads of everyone's 1st ig guitar songs.  i
learned "ghost" first and then "pushing the needle too far" (i love that
solo in the middle that emily does and the rest is so easy, which of course
is very important in the selection of what song to pick) <g>
        like carolyn, i'm long on guitars.  i just keep needing another
sound. <bg>
        as far as obsessed, i forget who wrote it first, but i bought the
timex indiglo watch for no real reason. <g>
        and jen, just to add to your list, i like both a&e's hair right at
the edge, just before it hits the shoulders.  where does that fit in the
short or long or bald categories? :-)

divinely inspired, devilishly run,

karen

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subject:      closer to dyin' (minimal igc)

hey all
heard a good parody of ctf last week performed by commonbond (two more
girl with guitars). they prefaced their performance by saying "we mean no
disrespect, we're just havin fun"). tried to remember the words  but they
got erased by some beer.the last lines go something like (singing now)
the more i drive my flat-bed ford to tennessee, the closer i am to dyin'.
any body out there heard this or have the words... i am going to try
harder next time.
commonbond have a good sound of their own, do mostly their own songs, and
a few covers. they both have nice voices and can really play the guitar.
if they ever get to your area they are entertaining.  they are in
philadelphia at sisters', at hawthornes in greenbelt, md on the 31st, nov
6 in ny at henrietta hudsons', and nov 7 in dc at mr henry's.

check out their page at
http://www.intercom.net/local/music/comnbond/comnbond.html
back to lurking
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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subject:      re: nigc,labels etc

hey y'all

some more nigc
one thing that impresses about this list/electronic community is how well
individuals can interact when stripped of everything but their printed
thoughts/ideas. no labels are needed,like that cartoon, no-one knows i am
a dog, unless i care to share that. it amazes me how so many
personalities shine through tho'. the nigc content is often very
illuminating in this regard. of course either a or e could scratch behind
my ears anytime

i ain't just woofin'
mutley

virtues are learned at your mothers knee,
vices at some other joint

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organization: suny at stony brook
subject:      how i was introduced to ig

just following a thread that was just posted...how i was introduced
to ig.  it's not really funny, maybe a little weird...all i really
want to do is forever thank the man who introduced me, even though i
don't know who he is.
back in high school, i worked in a public library and every so often
people would bring in tapes, records, books, etc. to donate to the
library.  one afternoon while i was up front at the desk, a man came
in wanting to donate a bunch of tapes.  i called over a librarian to
look at the tapes to see if he wanted to take them.  as he looked
through them, i noticed the untitled indigo girls tape.  i knew i had
heard of them before but i didn't quite know what they sounded like.
anyway, the librarian refused all the tapes.  the guy who had brought
them in was a little confused since he thought he was being nice.  i
picked up the indigo girls tape i had noticed and then looked at him.
i felt funny but there was something that made me want that tape.  i
asked him if i could have it and he said, "sure, here take this one
too!  i don't see how anyone could refuse the indigo girls!"  and
then he left.  the other one he gave me was nis.  when i got home
that night i played the untitled tape and that was it...i was hooked
forever! so, i thank this complete stranger who gave me one of the
best gifts i have ever received in my life.


---the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously--
e. saliers

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from:         candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
subject:      guitar threads

ahhhh...memories...

the first ig chords i ever learned to play were the ones from blood and =
fire (a-g-d-a, if anyone is wondering), but the song that i got down =
that actually resembled a piece of music was kid fears believe it or =
not.  my faves are still the ballad of squeaky fromme and joking though, =
cause i can just beat them out as hard as i want to and it still sounds =
right (up to 56 broken strings....).  my gf can play like emily though, =
so that's added incentive to learn the complicated fingerings....

...extremely political, but only because i don't agree with anyone...
greta

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from:         deng@vnet.ibm.com
subject:      first ig song

the first ig song i learned to play was ghost - i was trying to
figure out the picking part by ear.  the first ig song i learned to
play that was *recognizable* is a throw up between walk away and
thin line.  you can throw me in with the other newbie guitarists
with a "barre chord impairment" ;) and a newfound addiction for
playing!

on a side note, i came out to my family a few days ago and also
someone at work (yeah!)...and *also* received my first "you are
condemned to hell" speech (busy day). oddly enough, i think some
past threads on this list sort of helped prepare me for it ;)
anyways, this one is for deb, who taught me a little something
about strength a long time ago.

de

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 10:25:02 -0500
reply-to:     jennie <jriley@sophia.smith.edu>
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from:         jennie <jriley@sophia.smith.edu>
subject:      re: fav. ig song to play is..
x-to:         nelson mcwhorter <mcwhorte@mc.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.91.961029232851.12545a-100000@csc.mc.edu>

on tue, 29 oct 1996, nelson mcwhorter wrote:

>   anybody wanna scream backup
> for me :)
>

i can't sing or play the guitar, but i can scream with the best of them(:

happy day,
jennie
(who plans to someday tour with the ig doing modern interpretive dances
of their songs - cuz she can't sing to save her life)

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from:         eclipse productions <eclipse@thecia.net>
subject:      looking for sarah

sorry to take up space with this, but my pc was down for awhile and my
e-mail adress has changed, so ...

sarah (sanawike),
        i need to get in touch with you. i lost your e-mail when my pc
crashed. please contact me.

hugs,
deb

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reply-to:     tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      re: as long as we are thinking of songs
x-to:         anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199610290504.aaa176863@acs1.bu.edu>

> i would love to hear the old songs i used to hear
> at girl scout camp.. especially tonite i've been
> singing today.. which has an awesome harmony

yes! this song would be awesome for a & e to do. the lyrics would fit
well with a good guitar adaptation. here's the lyrics for anyone interested:

today

chorus:
today while the blossoms still cling to the vine
i'll taste your strawberries, i'll drink your sweet wine
a million tomorrows shall all pass away
ere i forget all the joys that are mine today.

verse:
i'll be a dandy and i'll be a rover
you'll know who i am by the songs that i sing
i'll feast at your table i'll sleep in your clover
who cares what tomorrow may bring.

repeat chorus

verse:
i can't be contented with yesterday's stories
i can't live on promises winter to spring
today is my moment and now is my story
i'll laugh, and i'll cry, and i'll sing

repeat chorus

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subject:      caroline aiken on the road

hello all,

please excuse the cross-posts to a few pertinent lists, but it's hard to
know who's lurking where in cyberspace these days.  caroline aiken is once
again leaving on a jet plane, and this time she'll be landing in the lovely
southwest.  this is caroline's first swing through this area, so please come
and show your support if humanly possible.  make sure to say "hi" to
caroline and let her know you read about her on the net.  i guarantee you'll
get a big ol' aiken grin.

i keep saying we'll have some good news to announce soon, and i'm going to
have to keep saying that until it's officially official.  keep your eye on
caroline's hidden water site:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken for any
updates.  you can also order her latest release, "live bait" from her
website, along with cool t-shirts and posters.

here are the dates:

november 1, 1996: the songsmith, scottsdale az --habitat for humanity benefit
november 6, 1996: caffe tazza, taos nm
november 7, 1996: drama club, santa fe nm
november 8, 1996: harwood center, albuquerque nm
november 9, 1996: new mexico state university, alamogordo campus, alamogordo nm
november 15, 1996:  zekes, perdido key, fl, 11:30pm
november 16, 1996:  characters, perdido key, fl, 8pm
december 14, 1996: eddie's attic, decatur ga -- w/ with janet mclaughlin
december 28, 1996: unitarian coffeehouse, columbia sc
february 8, 1997: house concert, auburn al
may 17, 1997: eccles conference center auditorium, logan ut

the latest edition of caroline's newsletter "that what i heard" is due out
shortly.  for more info, contact editor rebecca moore (aka "the sweetest gal
in alabama") at whatiheard@aol.com.

you can write to caroline at caroline@flylive.com.

have we said "thank you" lately?  we couldn't do it without your support.
thank you, thank you, thank you.

lorene machado
manager
on the fly entertainment, p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031
toll free:  (888) 586-7074
e-mail:  lorene@flylive.com
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 11:32:38 edt
reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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subject:      if amy ray had been a math major...

if amy ray had been a mathematics major (and as frustrated with modern geometry
as i am), perhaps this is what hand me downs would have been written as... :)

anna

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i've taken assumptions here, i've proven them all until now
i've followed so many proofs, the logic slows me down

all with hope, all with hope that
empty sets have closure and
isometries preserve distances between us all

everything that i believe is not in this geometry
everything i truly love comes from that there algebra
everything that i believe is wrong with math is geometry
everything i truly love i love in calc and love in trig

so give me hope, give me hope that
empty sets have closure and
isometries preserve distances between us all

swear you can't prove the converse
i saw you trying it again
i swore i would never study euclid
until i had this class

now you ask me why i'm here
the same as you, it's required, i fear
i've become the student now, you've become the best somehow
twist the words and change the plane, the geometry is not the same
flipping through our yellow sheets, checking for consistency

so give me hope, give me hope that
empty sets have closure and
isometries preserve distances between us all

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reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: get your flames ready,
              but i feel like this needs to be said - nigc
x-to:         ginyvita@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <961028170938_552396245@emout09.mail.aol.com>

on mon, 28 oct 1996 ginyvita@aol.com wrote:

> would be "special" things like employment and housing.  another case in point
> would be the employees in those godawful cracker barrell restaurants, which i
> hope none of you are patronizing.        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

can someone fill me in on this please?

mat

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subject:      camp songs

i just finished reading another post about camp songs that a&e should
sing.  it's so funny because when i first started listening to ig, it
took me back to girl scout camp and the kind of songs we used to
sing.  i wish that amy and emily had been my camp
counselors!
anyway, there's this song that i have always thought would be great for a&e to
sing.  it's called tiny bottle...some of the lyrics at the end
may sound strange but it's because i only learned the song by
listening - i never saw it written out.  by the way, anybody else
know this song?  i've heard of today, i think i sang it at camp,
too...

i have a little present here for you
inside this tiny bottle, so very small and blue
but don't you dare uncork it, 'cause everything'll get away
thought you might like your own summer's day

put it on away

now i'd be pleased if you didn't ask
why i gave this gift to you
i don't know myself did it on a whim
as the thought came passing through
just wanted to make you happy
in a summertime sort of way
thought you might like your own summer's day

put it on away

oh, you can read the writing on this tiny bottle wall
i know it's quite small but i can read it all
it says she who is a readin' me is lookin' right at my side
and might be sort of interested at what lies inside
there'll be one breath of a butterfly and one ray from the sun
and lots and lots of laughter from little childrens' fun

but don't you dare uncork it 'cause everything'll get away
thought you might like your own summer's day
put it on away


--wishing i was camping and singing,
kim

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subject:      re: hte at the shangri la
in-reply-to:  <34758862@dancer.dartmouth.edu>

i just got my copy of hte at shangri la in the mail from my mom, who
taped it off 101.9 fm in l.a.  it's excellent quality, but certain things
are lacking, like the dj's talk too much and they didn't catch the
beginning of the wood song because they were playing other music on the
radio while they were waiting for ig to come onstage.  i have to edit the
commercials and dj blabber out a little bit but soon it will be ready to
dub.  i have ig's set, bonnie raitt and the songs they all did together,
plus a short interview the girls did with the dj's.  incidentally, one of
the songs the dj's played while they were waiting was shawn colvin
covering heart of saturday night.  i've heard so much about her from
y'all on the list, but had never actually heard her before.  she's great!

=) happy indigo days,
the lone coyote


on wed, 30 oct 1996, susan b. marine wrote:

> hi all. i got a bitchin copy of hte (just indigo girls with a little bonnie
> raitt thrown in) at the shangri la. thanks to wendell :-)
>
> anyhoo, i am happy to dub it for folks, unless i get inundated, and then i'll
> maake a request for a tape tree....
>
> xo xo xo and a side of fries,
> susan
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from:         jendy <edwina@jax-inter.net>
subject:      re: the gift of music

my first song on the guitar was joking. the rhythm gave me a bit of trouble
at first but the chords came right to me. then i learned three hits, hey
jesus, and part of ctf. i also figured out love's recovery on the piano
somehow but it took me awhile. i should have bought the songbooks...but then
again i don't read music so that wouldn't have helped much would it? i'm
trying to figure out winthrop on the piano now but that's also quite
difficult because my tape player ate my bootleg :( i cried for hours. damn.
now i'm depressed.


jendy

-------------------------------------------------------
        "i want a party with rooms full of laughter,
         ten thousand tons of ice cream,
         and if i don't get the things i am after,
         i'm going to scream..."

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reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc: another love letter to the list

who was is that wrote the first one?
anyway, my love letter is to say thank you for introducing me to dar
williams.  (thanks to carolyn in particular, who, by the way, is
struggling in thesis hell)
my getting ready music this morning was as cool as i am, xians and pagans,
then cool some more, and then pagans, but eventually just cool for quite a
few repetitions, and i was actually skipping on my way to the bus stop.
and i am not a morning person either.
so thanks!!!
love,
karey

ps if anyone has a november birthday (or even just a birthday) and you
haven't sent a favorite song and/or quote, please do so, otherwise your
birthday greeting will be at the mercy of my frazzled, random brain that
day.  (not necessarily a bad thing, but... :)  oh, also, somebody said the
untitled song for their favorite, but please be advised that i don't have
color me gray or any of the old stuff, really, so i don't know a quote
from that, so be specific!!
love,
the new birthday goddess
:)

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from:         sarah scilley <sarah_scilley@ccmail.uoregon.edu>
subject:      first ig song on guitar

hey folks,

i would imagine that a considerable number of people have started to play
guitar becuase of ig.  i think that's fantastic.

i played (well, at least i called it "playing" :-) ) before ig emerged on the
scene.  one of the reasons i was drawn to them was because i played the guitar.

my first song was  closer to fine (there's a big surprise :-)) followed very
closely by secure yourself.

sarah
sarah_scilley@ccmail.uoregon.edu

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subject:      re: merril bainbridge-nigc
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<< has a cd out called "the garden".  if you
haven't heard  her and get a chance to check her out, she's worth a
listen. >>

hey everyone!  i first heard meryl bainbridge last year when my friend came
back from australia (as an exchange student for 6 months) and i am hopelessly
in love...   "the garden" is not released in the u.s. yet and i can't even
find it in import sections yet, but for those of us u.s. people who can't get
a hold of it, i have a copy and i would be happy to dub for anyone.....she is
so wonderful!!!!!!

sam

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from:         "stacey l. vamvas" <svamvas@vt.edu>
subject:      how i was introduced to ig

hey everyone,

well here's my story, i was over a friends house and she was going to see
the ig concert this past august.  well someone had backed out on her, so she
asked me if i wanted to go.(keep in mind that i had never heard their music
before).  i told her i would go.  there is nothing like seeing them live-it
has to be the best way to be introduced to their music.  now i have bought
most of their cd's and i'm working on the rest.  i never thought i could
fall in love with someone's music so fast.  i'm so glad that she invited me
to the concert-their music has had such an impact on me in such a short
time.  thanks for listening!

stacey vamvas
aerospace engineering
virginia tech
svamvas@vt.edu

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subject:      thanks and dylan-nigc

hi all,
i hadn't posted in a while and i just had somethings that i had to talk
about.  first of all, thanks to all of you who talked about shawn
colvin.  she is awesome!  i enjoy listening to her immensely and if it
wasn't for you precious people on the list i would definitely be missing
out.  also, i know this has nothing to do with ig but i saw bob dylan
live last night and i just had to write about it.  it was an
unbelievable concert and just to be able to say that i had the privilege
of seeing him in concert blows my mind.  he is exceptional in concert
and if any of you have the chance to see him (he's touring but i
unfortunately don't know and dates or venues) i recommend it strongly.
it was definitely an experience i will always remember.  now if i could
only see ig in concert i can die happy.
keep on keepin' on,
ryan
"but to stand outside the law
you have to be honest."
                bob dylan

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from:         sara karges <sarak@sentex.net>
subject:      my web page

hi everybody!

i have a question.

what should i put on the new web page that
i am working on?

i was wondering if any of you fellow indigo fans
out there could think of some good ig content for
this page.

so here is the really big question: what would
you like to see on an indigo girls web page?
(keep in mind that i'm looking for some original ideas.)


-from your indigo buddy, sara.-

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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      ani boston show info needed

have tyickets gone on  sale??? i heard the first show sold out and there was
a second show , but next ticketing doesnt even list her first show @ the
orpheum on 11/23????? if some kind friend (pun intended) could either get me
info or (better) offer to pick up tickets (next has a 7.75 service charge on
1 ticket if you use a credit card, 5.75 per ticket and 2 bucks to use the
phone yet there are no next outlets in maine ....grrrr)
please email any info
mike r.

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mine was "blood and fire" when i was in eigth grade. ahhhhhh the memories!

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at 06:58 pm 10/30/96 -0500, you wrote:
>have tyickets gone on  sale??? i heard the first show sold out and there was
>a second show , but next ticketing doesnt even list her first show @ the
>orpheum on 11/23????? if some kind friend (pun intended) could either get me
>info or (better) offer to pick up tickets (next has a 7.75 service charge on
>1 ticket if you use a credit card, 5.75 per ticket and 2 bucks to use the
>phone yet there are no next outlets in maine ....grrrr)
>please email any info
>mike r.
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i went to get tickets today. the ones they have left are pretty lousy, only
obstructed view singles for saturday and some so-so ones for sunday. try
giving newbury comics a call.

deb

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unfortunately i don't think amy could quite make it as a math major.
anyone see "watershed"...10,000 strings? cute song though!
ben

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from:         shareee <gross@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu>
subject:      re: first indigo song
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.961030172449.25847a-100000@email1.asu.edu>

well, i haven't introduced myself, so i apologize if i'm disobeying any
chains of command.  however, this thread made me think back to the good
ol' days and how/when i first met a and e...

it was 1989 and i was at my friend michele's house  (hey, there, blondie!)
she pulled me into her room and amidst the eagerness and excitement of
sharing her discovery, tapped play on her cd player.  the rest is blissful
history.  ctf harmonized its way into my soul and smoldered like kindling
in my spirit.  i was born...

and now?  now michele's cd changer houses the girls and only the girls,
her license plates read  ndgogirl  and we ventured along the narrow
winding path of i-94 to breathe in the ig air at the hte concert in st.
paul...

* isn't it strange to think what life would be like without this
discovery? *

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

yeah, yeah, i know. another silly and boring post from someone no one
knows, but...what the heck, i figger. it's halloween and if anyone tries
to hunt me down, i'll slip into my emily dickinson costume and hide out in
the attick.   (that looks so strange...is it spelled correctly??)

falling softly as the rain,
shari.

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subject:      re: honor the earth boot tree

hi y'all,
  well, we're finally ready t go with the honor the earth boot tree.  the
tree will be offering both the "live" audience version and the computer
version.  just be sure to let your branch know if you want the live version,
computer version, or both.  send along a note with your blank(s).
  listed below is the tree.  to get your copy(ies) just e-mail your branch
and they will tell you what to do from there.   i think everyone knows how
this works but for any of those who don't, here is how to get your copy(ies).
contact your branch - they will tell you where you need to send your
blank(s), return envelope, and return postage.  you send out the needed items
and the branch will dub the tape(s) and send them back to you.  it's just
that easy!  :)  thanx to everyone who has helped to get this going.

honor the earth boot tree

gemini             larin        lmclaugh@u.washington.edu
cancer           linda         napikosk@scf-fs.usc.edu
leo                  susan       teddie@telepath.com
virgo              kristina    andrade@az.com
libra              veronica    vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu
scorpio           greta         cgohn@olympus.net
sagittarius    chris         talbotc@umich.edu
capricorn       sundara      smurphy@ups.edu
aquarius         elizabeth    chocobo11@aol.com
pisces              lisa            lmayne@u.washington.edu
aries                alexandra   aaogilvie@aol.com
taurus             lisa            nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu

asia           anna        ahidalgo@portalinc.com
aus/nz       sherlyn    sherlyn@cafu.fl.net.au
uk/eur/can    amy     indiamy@aol.com

  hope everyone enjoys the tapes.  take it easy.

peace,
amy

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subject:      nigc, nigc! ellen!

i know this is an extremely nigc post, but i thought i'd remind anyone on
the west coast who still has time that ellen is on tonight! i've already
seen it and for anyone who loves the show or is following all the news
surroundig it recently, watch it! it's got a great moment at the very end. :)

~abigail

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subject:      1st ig song on my guitar would be...
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"keeper of my heart"!!! (surprise surprise...) for some reason i always
get the idea that a lot of people hate that one...dunno why...for me it's
just so honest and unpretentious...i can really relate to that "here's my
love and anger" verse cause, well you know what it's like when you got so
much love and anger inside of you at the same time. i remember listening
to it all the time when i first broke up with my exboyfriend last year.
the song has been a powerful and therapuetic experience.

well i'm still learning the guitar struggling with that damn f
chord..."keeper of my heart" would definitely be the first one i wanna
try...think i wanna join a contest with that one in my college too!

happy halloween (though in taipei it's never a big deal...:()
han

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 18:25:10 -0800
reply-to:     sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      re: first indigo song

alright,  first the indigo girls in your car thread made me sad, now this
thread is making me sad, cause i have no musical talent whatsoever, and i
would give my second child (cause the first will belong to you know
who-hee!) to be able to sing and play the guitar.  whine whine, snivel
snivel...

and, to top it off,  i can't remember words to songs at all, unless the
music is playing.  there are only two songs i can sing from beginning to
end all by myself:  you are my sunshine,  and get out the map.  so now,
since i don't have a tape player, i sing these two songs over and over to
myself while driving. :)

peace, love, and purple,
sundara <--who is such a bad singer, not even her mother will let her sing
out loud

as a woman, i have no country.
as a woman, i want no country.
as a woman, the whole world is my country.

                virginia woolf
                        three guineas

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 20:30:26 -0600
reply-to:     chuck & jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
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from:         chuck & jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
subject:      nigc:  me on 20/20

hey, just thought i'd send a quick e-mail saying that melissa etheridge
and julie will be on 20/20 w/ baba wawa this friday.

should be good.
- jen hall

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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 21:36:26 -0500
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subject:      re: nigc: ? about university web access

in a message dated 96-10-30 01:01:41 est, i wrote:

>  i just find it unbelievable that the school can't
>  track down the nazi bastards who did this.
>

someone on the list brought something to my attention and i wanted to
apologize.  the issue of free speech was mentioned, as well as how the above
statement i made is just as bad as the nazi messages being spread throughout
the school.  so first, i'd like to apologize for filling everybody's
mailboxes with my anti-nazi propaganda.  i wouldn't want to offend.

then, i will just say that when i wrote this i was very emotional.  my
statement was motivated mostly by frustration, fear and hurt.  the
perpetrators were motivated by hatred and bigotry.  different.

i must also address the free speech issue.  if someone sent me an email which
said, hey, come visit my web page!  it will give you hours of surfing
pleasure:  http://www.nazis.com - this is a matter of free speech, the right
for whoever it is to construct a web page with this sort of content.  in this
case, i have a choice whether or not to go there.  however, if someone
attaches to an email a .jpg file with a huge swastika on it and words of hate
and bigotry, this i will not stand for.  this is not a matter of free speech
because i was forced to read it.  it's like how everyone gets angry and upset
when someone spams the list with some make easy money fast scheme.  while
this is an unwelcome intrusion and a terrible waste of bandwidth, it would
not be nearly as offensive as if someone emailed me nazi propaganda.

thanks to everyone who emailed me about this.

-sheri :|
who didn't realize until today that political correctness should extend to
_everybody_ so i will from now on refer to nazis as "tolerantly-challenged".

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_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 21:48:38 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      merril b (nigc)

--- you wrote:
"the garden" is not released in the u.s. yet and i can't even
find it in import sections yet,
--- end of quoted material ---
sorry to be a smartie pants...and soemtimes i am wrong, butt...

i found merril's cd in rich's, aforementioned shmeggy department store. they
have about, oh, 10 cd's total and merril's was one of them. it is not hard to
find...i have also seen it at sam goody's, coconuts, and strawberries...

i got flamed once for offering to tape commercial stuff, so please don't do it!
ya might get burned :)


" a  pack of camels, a burrito, and a barq's"

susanna

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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: first indigo song

hey y'all
me... i don't play an instrument ( unless you count a mean set of
spoons... ) but i still have a "first ig song" i fell in love with.
it was tmf... then lotk... then dead man's hill...etc...:-) ( can
you tell that my first cd was so?:-) )and i was most saddened when none of
my acdc-type music lovin' friends could relate to me + my intense emotional
response to the music and lyrics found in the ig's stuff. being a writer,
i've always been a "words" person. i love lyrics, and boy-howdy did i ever
find the type i love when i discovered the girls. my friends often looked at me
like i had something hideous hanging from my nose if i said something like
"i wonder what the writer meant by that?..." i was concentrating
on the lyrics + trying to grasp the "message" in the song, when all they
heard or cared about was the beat. sigh... :-) but now? aint ig fans cool??
a lot of you actually care about what e or a mean with their lyrics...
yeeeeehaaaaaa!!!!
my kinda people!
so, like, i have a dumb question... my ( at the moment ) favorite ig song is
land of caanan ( my irc nick is kaanan, cause of it ) and i was wondering...
what is the reference to the london skyline? was it written in london...
like, when the girls were on tour over there, or something?? it's a silly
question i know, but it niggles at me every time i listen to the song... :-)
( which is every day lately ) <big cheesy grin>.... anyone?
peace all... kim ( the goddess who dearly loves sotw )


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from:         lorie driscoll <mediamongr@aol.com>
subject:      nigc:  singer on regis & kathie lee

hi there,

did anybody see that janis-joplin-like singer (*they* said that, not me)?
she was singing and kinda waving her hands around.  wore a white funky
shirt.

anyway, what the heck was here name?  it wasn't jenifer jackson, was it?

who is this jenifer jackson that is opening for michelle malone in new york
on nov. 5?  was thinking it could possibly be one and the same....

anybody who knows, tell me about both people, eh?

danke,
ld

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from:         lorie driscoll <mediamongr@aol.com>
subject:      amy mchugh / gerard ray?

ok, we've all noticed it....

it's "forever is" off gerard mchugh's more than i  cd.  (which i really
really like.)

tell me you don't notice how much it sounds like "joking" off rop (in the
beginning).

nah -- i don't wonder which came 1st or anything -- i'm just real glad to
have 'em both.

lorie
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i must play...i got to creep down the alleyway...somewhere they can't find
me..."

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organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      re: if amy ray had been a math major...

on wed, 30 oct 1996, ben wrote:

> unfortunately i don't think amy could quite make it as a math major.

maybe in folk world everyone can be a major in anything and do brilliantly -
then amy could be a great math major! :)

*sigh* speaking of folk world, does anyone know if lorindigo is ever going to
come back?

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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from:         andi <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
subject:      my sig (w/ lots of igc)

i'm not sure if i've posted since i've had this sig, but lots of ig list
people have seen it, at least through private e-mail, & not one has been
able to answer my question.  anybody?  a real ig fan would know... <g>

andi

        -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
                           andrea lipman
                    e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
            homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

           "high energy does not necessarily mean fast,
            high energy has to do with heart"-lou reed

            anybody know where i got this quote from? :)
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from:         chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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subject:      re: first indigo song
x-to:         rcn@prcn.org

on  wed, 30 oct 1996, kim, the goddess of all things good and ig, wrote:

> what is the reference to the london skyline?

actually, the liner notes are wrong 'cause amy sings "aluminum siding" instead
of "london skyline".  really!  the story is, that her former gf wrote on the
outer wall of her house that she was leaving, and the outer wall had aluminum
siding.  so, "it's just aluminum siding, oh, sweetheart, telling me you're not
mine..."

:)

anna

*you do realize this is a joke, don't you? ;)


"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: if amy ray had been a math major...

this makes me laugh, because my bf insists that pot is not mathematically
sound because you don't multiply a number by the exponent, you multiply the
number by itself.  so the line should go, 'multiply life by itself', not
'multiply life by the power of two'.  now this is my bf's warped mind
talking, not me!  i mean, technically speaking, he's right, but i will give
emily total creative license on this one... and i'd better, otherwise a&e
could never sing 'power of food' on sesame street ;)

and anna, i sympathize with you about having to take geometry...yechhhh, and
i enjoyed your song!

-sheri :)

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_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: cookies (nigc)

in a message dated 96-10-30 01:06:24 est, sanawike1@aol.com writes:

> okay, okay, so this has been forwarded to half of you already... in all
>  honesty i got this recipe about 6 months ago.  a friend and i actually
made
>  the cookies and they are _really_ good... so enjoy! =)  peace, love, and
>  butter bis-, er, cookies, sarah
>

i read an article about this exact thing in the computer section of the daily
news a few months ago.  the article was about internet myths, which included
the good times virus, the get well card thing and this cookie recipe thing.
of course, i believe everything i read in the paper so i am going to say
that these are just made up stories going around, filling everybody's
mailboxes up.  i can't wait until the next onslaught of good times virus
warnings...

-sheri :)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: my sig (w/ lots of igc)

the shadow knows...and so does abigail! it's a quote amy picked to use in
the liner notes of, um, oh crap, now was it strange fire or nis?! i think
i'll go with strange fire. what do i win andi? :)
>
>           "high energy does not necessarily mean fast,
>            high energy has to do with heart"-lou reed
>
>            anybody know where i got this quote from? :)
>

:) abigail (self-appointed, reigning queen o' indigo trivia!)

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subject:      re: cookies (nigc)
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it may be true this particular story is an internet myth, but i
_personally_ know someone that was stuck in the very same situation! i
don't know if the recipe is for real or not, but i received it on a piece
of paper in one of my offices at least 6 years ago, and have been using it
ever since!


em'ly

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subject:      problem child lyrics

        hi y'all...i'm up late again and thought i would post my take on
amy's "problem child"...

        i am a problem child
        i've been wild all my days
        all my anger and my rage
        my senses said it would lead me astray
        i said go, go, go

        raise your hands, raise your hands high
        don't take a seat, don't stand aside this time
        don't assume anything but go, go, go

        five generations running fast
        these things will not pass
        this darish blood runs in my veins
        i can't change anything
        i said no, no, no

        raise your hands, raise your hands high
        don't take a seat, don't stand aside this time
        don't assume anything but go, go, go

        so you've learned to cry but you don't know why
        so you've learned to laugh, what are we laughing at?

        so i am a problem child
        i've been wild all my days
        all my anger and my rage
        my senses said it would lead me astray
        and i said go, go, go

        raise your hands, raise your hands high
        don't take a seat, don't stand aside this time
        don't assume anything this time
        don't assume anything
        i said go, go, go


        if you've reached the bottom, let me explain "darish"...i do not
think it's an actual word, but i could be wrong.  but i believe that if it
is a word and i heard it correctly, it's a conjugation of dare...it fits,
but my little dictionary doesn't support me (as usual)...let me know what
you think...
        probably by tomorrow (or rather today) i'll be posting the lyrics to
"hey kind friend"...

        peace

                jen

"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
     -amy ray

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 08:00:15 +0000
reply-to:     juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
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from:         juliet long <j.l.a.long@reading.ac.uk>
subject:      (nigc) happy halloween!!!!!**********

ghost & goblins will be out tonite
      howling noises deep into the night~~~~~~~~
skeletons & witches lurk the streets
      looking for the special ""tricks & treats""
this lil pumpkin comes to you with cheer
     wishing you a happy halloween this year!!!

     a very happy halloweenie...hugzzz y'all ..juliet


                               ooo
                              @ o@
                             o @@
                   ""@@@    o" @@ oo "
               " o@"@oo@@@"o@@o@@"@@@@@ o
              @" "o@@@@@@o@@@@@@@@@@@@@@o     o
           o@"    "@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@o" "oo  o
          " "     o  "@@@o   o@@@@@@@@@@@oo@@
         " @     " "o@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@"@@@@@@@o
       o  @       o o@@@@@"@@@@@@@@@@@o@@"""@@@@o " "
      o          o@@@@@"    "@@@@@@@@@@ "" oo @@   o @
      @  @       @@@@@  @@@oo "@@@@@@@@o o @@@o@@oo o o
     o        o @@@@@oo@@@@@@o@@@@ ""@@oo@@@@@@@@"  " "o
     "   o    @ ""@@@@@@@@@@@@@@  o  "@@@@@@@@@@@@   o "
     "   @      "@@@@@@@@@@@@@@   "   @@@"@@@@@@@@o  o
     @   o      o@"""""@@@@@@@@    oooo@@ @@@@@@@@"  "
     @      o""o @@o    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ""  o@@@   @ o
      o     " "o "@@@@  @@@@@""""""""""" @  o@@@@@"" o o
      "  " o  o@o" @@@@o   ""           o  o@@@@@"   o
       @         o@@@@@@@oo            "oo@@@@@@@"    o
       "@   o o@o @o o@@@@@"@@@@oooo@@@@@@@@@@@@@@"o@o
         "o oo  @o@"oo@@@@@o@@@@@@@@@@@@"@@@@@@@@"o@"
          "@ooo @@o@   @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@o"
             "" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@" """"
                              """"""

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subject:      happy halloween!

i just want to say happy friday and happy halloween to everyone on the list.
you guys are great!
special hello to tami, greta, sue, katy, denise, amy, betsy, howdy and peter.

lori


"if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."
                                         sheryl crow

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subject:      re: amy mchugh / gerard ray?
in-reply-to:  <961030221441_1780347753@emout18.mail.aol.com>

it's so weird that you mentioned how the opening chords and strumming
pattern joking and forever is sound so similar because i just happened to
have bought more than i today, and as soon as i popped it into my discman
and pressed play, i heard it, too.
i know how y'all hate me-too's, but i found this too weird to be a little
coinkidink.  i'm convinced that most of the world is all thinking on one
giant wavelength...

veronica

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                                        -- bernie taupin
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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 21:28:19 -0800
reply-to:     brian shafer <shafer@kingsnet.com>
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from:         brian shafer <shafer@kingsnet.com>
subject:      indigo coincidence (or fate?)

just thought i'd share something cool that happened to me a few years
ago.  i had just joined a band and realized that if i wanted to do more
than just sing, i was going to have to get myself an electric guitar (my
acoustic just wasn't going to cut it in this situation).  anyway, at
this point in time, i had not seen any pictures of a or e with
electrics, so my only criteria going into the music store was to find
something i could afford.  i finally chose one because it was the second
cheapest one they had, plus i just thought it looked pretty cool.  it
was a black and white fender stratocaster.  (you can see where i'm going
with this...)  imagine my surprise and delight when, a few months later,
i started seeing a lot of pictures of amy with an apparently identical
guitar!  coincidence or fate - either way it was pretty cool ;)
similar coincidences, anyone?
carrie

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 00:41:21 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: if amy ray had been a math major...
x-to:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
in-reply-to:  <961030231446_1913759268@emout10.mail.aol.com>

actually mathamatically he is right probally but its very simple multiply
life by the power of 2 meaning life in adn of itself is nothing  but take
life and time it by what 2 folks in love can do and well<g>

on wed, 30 oct 1996, sheri e. allen wrote:

> this makes me laugh, because my bf insists that pot is not mathematically
> sound because you don't multiply a number by the exponent, you multiply the
> number by itself.  so the line should go, 'multiply life by itself', not
> 'multiply life by the power of two'.  now this is my bf's warped mind
> talking, not me!  i mean, technically speaking, he's right, but i will give
> emily total creative license on this one... and i'd better, otherwise a&e
> could never sing 'power of food' on sesame street ;)
>
> and anna, i sympathize with you about having to take geometry...yechhhh, and
> i enjoyed your song!
>
> -sheri :)
>
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>  _    _----_          o   |...when you learn
> { ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
> { ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
> {_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
>        \/--               |that are cast...
>  seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
>  seallen@sprintmail.com
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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from:         carrie shafer <shafer@kingsnet.com>
subject:      nigc - wrong address

sorry, but i have to say i just sent a message to the list from my
husband's workspace - therefore it has his return address on it instead
of mine.  the message was not from brian shafer - it was from his
not-so-brilliant-sometimes wife.  it won't happen again.  (this week?)
;) carrie

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subject:      (total nigc) happy halloween <g>...

darkness falls across the land
the midnight hour is close at hand
creatures crawl in search of blood
to terrorize y'all's neighborhood   <g>
and whosoever shall be found
without the soul for getting down
must stand and face the hounds of hell
and rot inside a corpses's shell
the foulest stench is in the air
the funk of forty thousand years
and grizzly ghouls from every tomb
are closing in to seal your doom
and though you fight to stay alive
your body starts to shiver
for no mere mortal can resist
the evil of the thriller...

(into maniacal laugh in deep echo)


happy halloween indigoers! :-)
margot

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subject:      gemini address for hte boot

hi all!

maybe i copied the address wrong last night, could someone please
give me the correct address for the gemini branch for the hte boot.
thanks a lot!

happy halloween!

-deb

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subject:      re: indigo coincidence (or fate?)

on  wed, 30 oct 1996 21:28:19 -0800, carrie wrote:

> i finally chose one because it was the second
>cheapest one they had, plus i just thought it looked pretty cool.  it
>was a black and white fender stratocaster.  (you can see where i'm going
>with this...)  imagine my surprise and delight when, a few months later,
>i started seeing a lot of pictures of amy with an apparently identical
>guitar!  coincidence or fate - either way it was pretty cool ;)
>similar coincidences, anyone?

that's so weird!!!... cause that's exactly what my air-guitar that i play
in the car looks like  :  )

betsy (no musical talent whatsoever, but can whistle that part in
ctf...well sort of...)

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 09:59:13 -0600
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subject:      re: indigo coincidence (or fate?) -reply

>>> mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>  10/31/96, 09:02am >>>

that's so weird!!!... cause that's exactly what my air-guitar that i
play in the car looks like  :  )

betsy (no musical talent whatsoever, but can whistle that part in
ctf...well sort of...)

why do i think that almost all of us have the same air guitar?

-j

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subject:      8 ]    ; }     <870> , only joking  (list content, but nigc)
in-reply-to:  <da827337011c0e00>

anna ended her post, as has been done many times before, with:
> *you do realize this is a joke, don't you? ;)

since there has been some confusion recently as to when people are being
serious and when they are joking, and having to write in that it is a
joke takes some of the fun out of it,  i think we need to adopt an
official netspace.org symbol for   i'm kidding/this is a joke/i'm not
serious/this is sarchasm.   i think if we can all easily decipher hmd,
so, and loc, and can distinguish between mcc, me, and mm without trouble,
we can handle this.

i have a few possibilities:   8 ]    ; }     <870>   or anna's  ;)
(don't laugh at the third one, if you turn your head and squint, it's
quite artistic, i think).  i'm kind of partial to the first one though.

so, what do you think?   and please don't flame me for wasting bandwidth,
afterall, if we did this it could save lots of bandwidth in the future.
8 ]

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 09:05:16 -0700
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from:         corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>
subject:      sara lee

hey y'all.  i was pondering the other day, considering i just saw  sara lee
in concert with ani difranco, who do you think is playing bass on the new
ig record?  emily?  or do you think sara is helping with the cd?  i will
feel sad if sara isn't on the album.  hmm.   if anyone knows, write me back.

happy halloween......
love
corinne
who is dressed like a utahn for halloween... scary i know

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 11:09:34 -0500
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subject:      re: special alert: help ellen out of the closet

how is this going to help the show?

i don't watch comedy television for a political message.

i watch it for comedy, duh.

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subject:      re: problem child lyrics

in a message dated 96-10-31 02:28:23 est, jen writes:

amy sings: <<" this darish blood runs in my veins.."

<< let me explain "darish"...i do not
think it's an actual word, but i could be wrong.  but i believe that if it
is a word and i heard it correctly, it's a conjugation of dare...it fits,
but my little dictionary doesn't support me (as usual)...let me know what
you think... >>

do you suppose it could be : "this -garish- blood runs in my veins..." ??
that would kinda make sense (ha !! as if that were a priority :)
just a random rambin' thought. thanks for posting the lyrics !
can't wait for'heykindfriend" (my new favorite song:)

well....off to school i go...were the cryptic words "the same sun that
warms your skin will suck that booger dry.." will run over and over in
my head like they allways do now thanks to, i think, susan, who must
now admit that she has replaced barney as "evil incarnate" :)

ta ta dahlinks !
binky
" i've got to have those puppies !!! "
(susa..no..c. de ville :)

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subject:      nigc- a reply request

hi all,

i have a request about replying to posts.  when you 'reply to all' , please
delete the sender's address from the to field because if you don't, that
person gets two copies of the same mail.  thanks a bunch, everyone...

oh, and have a happy halloween...boo!!  do you think the kids will be mad if
i eat all the chocolate before they come to the door? ;)

love, sheri :)

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from:         anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
subject:      camp songs (fwd)

kim wrote the words to her favorite camp song...
and since it's mine too :waves at kim
i thought i'd fix one lil line... it's ok
cos i have this unbelieveable memory for every song i've
ever heard... and camp songs are very easy to change
(that's why every camp has their own variations)
i happen to know the woman who wrote the song,
so here's the fix...

i have a lil present here for you
inside this tiny bottle, so very small and blue
please do not uncork it, simply put it on away
for inside there lies a summer's day

>
> i have a little present here for you
> inside this tiny bottle, so very small and blue
> but don't you dare uncork it, 'cause everything'll get away
> thought you might like your own summer's day
>
see? they are very similar, easily confused...
i have so many songs i'd love to hear them sing..
pioneer woman, on the loose, magic summer
*sigh* if they could have been my camp counselors as a child
:)
love and happy indigo thoughts
anjeanette

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 12:39:20 -0500
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subject:      re: special alert: help ellen out of the closet
x-to:         nsimino@doa.state.la.us
in-reply-to:  xzbqfaa012378090 from "nsimino@doa.state.la.us" at oct 31,
              96 11:09:34 am

ok, so when chris reeve stars in a sitcom, should they hide his wheelchair?
when bill cosby tells a joke should they morph into a white person?
should tori amos never sing "me and a gun" because it is too political?
if it makes you uncomfortable, well tv is a reflection of life, and life is
sometimes offense, obscene, uncomfortable, inaccessable, and racist


besides, no one is forcing you to watch ellen...
mike r.
*way too political no matter what the year*

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subject:      questions...please read

hey everyone.....got a few questions that i thought you might be able to
help me with...
1)  does anyone have a copy of the recent radio show the girls did ..i would love a copy...

also...does anyone know in the song what chicano city park is..where is it
why so many references in the song...

thanks...any help would be appreciated....josh

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subject:      re: if amy ray had been a math major...
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i can relate to sheri's post about her bf's response to the
un-mathematical-correctness of pot.  when i was first starting to love
ig, i only had that song on the boys on the side soundtrack, which my
roommate, a former engineering major, and i listened to constantly.  she,
too, informed me that it wasn't consistent with real math rules.  it
irritated me to no end, because i felt that she wasn't getting the point
of the song, and for awhile i couldn't listen to it without getting
irritated at her.....but i'm over it now!

=)
the lone coyote

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 14:19:35 -0500
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subject:      my sig trivia winners...

          "high energy does not necessarily mean fast,
           high energy has to do with heart"-lou reed

           anybody know where i got this quote from? :)

yes, it's from amy's thanks in the liner notes from sf.  i'm shocked at the
rest of you, pretending to be real ig fans, yet unable to recognize a liner
quote!  <g>  congratulations to jen & abigail, the only people who answered
my sig question correctly.  they win a special surprise!  (aren't the rest
of you jealous?)

andi


          -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
                                andrea lipman
                       e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
               homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

                     "and it's alright if i feel afraid
                     my plans in pieces my plans mislaid
                         it's the will of the way...
                           and it's alright."-es
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subject:      happy halloween (igc, really!)

well, guess what i am today?  thus far i have been an indirabbit, complete
with whiskers and a guitar pick :)  but the best part comes tonight when i
have my acting class, where we are coming in character and doing
monologues...hmmm, guess what i am???  lessee...jeans, hte shirt, jewelry, a
guitar, hmmm...i'm going to do my best to replicate amy's face paint from rop
and we'll just see how that goes!  my monologue, which i finally got around
to writing, is a mesh of lyrics, socs, and some soc/poetry stuff i've
written...doesn't have much of a point but i get to yell "i will not be
complacent!!!"  :)
happy halloween, y'all :)
love, chocolate, and face paint
katy  (aka amy ray!)

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subject:      re: problem child lyrics

        hi all...even though i happen to like my new word...i have to agree
with susan, jocelyn and sarah and go with:

        five generations running fast
        these things will not pass
        this debtor's blood runs in my veins
        i can't change anything

        but who knows???

        thanks for the input y'all...

        jen

        (ps  happy halloween for those who celebrate it...)

"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
     -amy ray

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subject:      re: 8 ]    ; }     <870> , only joking  (list content, but nigc

on thu, 31 oct 1996, harry wrote:

<stuff about netspace.org joke symbol>

i second this - it's a real pain in the but to always have to be sure people
realize i'm not being serious when i'm not being serious.  (huh? :)  sometimes
i'm just being silly, and then i get all these msgs from people who are
confused.  maybe it's just me...

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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>
> i have a few possibilities:  8 ] ; } <870> or anna's ;) > (don't laugh
at the third one, if you turn your head and squint, it's > quite artistic,
i think).  i'm kind of partial to the first one though. > >


i think it should include a wink, since that often indicates a joke or
shared secret of some kind.  i'm also partial to the tongue sticking out
as a symbol of being silly.  ;p  (actually that looks like i tasted
something bitter--maybe someone should revise that--)

=) always jokin'
the lone coyote

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subject:      re: sara lee
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sara told me over breakfast oct. 18 that she had laid her tracks for the
new album as had all the other guest musicians..and now amy and emily are
in the studio working on their stuff..sara thought the new cd would be out
in march.

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subject:      just another example of how ig make the world go round

well, i am home for fall break, and my mother bid me rake the leaves out
in the front yard. i raked for maybe all of 30 seconds before i decided
that i needed some musical accompaniment, so i brought out the radio and
put on nis {i figured that was a good work-ethic choice.} well, not
halfway through haan, some woman walks by, looking like she is on her way
home from work. i don't know who she is, but i say hello, and then go back
to raking, and then she says, "indigo girls!"  i was kinda surprised, so
the only witty thing that came out of my mouth was "yup". then she said "i
love 'em!" and went on her way. not a very interesting story, but it made
me smile, and turn up the volume, and wonder why i'd never met this woman
before. happy halloween...

:) amy

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 18:07:10 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      mm this weekend? (nigc)

hi all,

anyone besides me and my pal amy  (we are going, right amy?) going to see the
lovely and skinny michelle malone in boston saturday night? the show is at 9:30
at the lizard lounge....
email me private-like if you are goin', maybe we could meet up or somethin?

"she didn't need  nuthin or nobody cause she was the missing link, the kitchen
sink and the queen mother"

yeah, michelle, you go

:) susan

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 20:53:38 +1900
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      boston folk, i need help....

hello all,

i am trying to find out about the venue in cambridge/boston ma that
michelle malone is supposed to be playing at on sat night.  on the
website it says the lizard lounge, i called info and there is no
place in existence by that name, so i called club passim and they
didn't know either.  i emailed bds and mm at hiddenwater and have
got no response so far.  can someone help me out here?  i really
want to go and don't want to make a 2 hr drive to somewhere that
doesn't exist.  also could someone help me out and tell me if
it is a 21+ show and the price.  and possibly a phone # and/or
directions?  thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 21:14:21 -0500
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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      my air guitar...and other igc stuff

all of our air guitars might look alike, but what about air whistles on
ctf???  my friend commented the other day, as i drove with one hand and
played the air whistle with the other, that i was either truly obsessed or
insane, probably both.  another you know you're obsessed when...you drive
with the windows down, no matter how cold it is, because dammit people are
going to appreciate your music!!!  and...my monologue thing, as amy, was
lovely, and her rop makeup is still on my face!  i love this, i don't think
i'll ever take it off!  it wasn't even very hard to do.  i also have her
tattoo on my arm (drawn in marker, fine, and not that beautifully, but
still!)
and my big wonderful news...we've been reading selections from this awesome
book in my lit class, _native american literature_ ed. by gerald vizenor.  in
it are pieces by sherman alexie and joy harjo...honor!!!  heh, heh...so i
brought my cd in to lend my lit teacher (she promised to be careful but i
still was nervous...:) and she's going to play stuff from it (i hope!) in her
classes tomorrow!  i knew she was cool as soon as she told me she liked ig :)
anyway...always one to spread music, and it's a form of literature and very
relevant.  here's to makeup, lit teachers, and air whistling...
katy the caffeinated (i haven't eaten anything but sugar and wonton soup
today!!!)

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 21:24:13 -0500
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from:         indigopony@aol.com
subject:      halloweendigo girls

well, i finally did it!  after being an emily person forever, i was amy ray
for a day...my amy side is starting to come out, but i was _going_ to be
emily until
i couldn't find a wig...=\  and *my* sioux indian cross tattoo looks more
realistic than katy's, no matter what she may say! =)  it was neat because
all day people were asking me who i was supposed to be portraying, and
some of them had actually heard of ig and amy (this is rare where i live)!  i
made everyone call me amy today. ;)  okay, off to wash this brown stuff out
of my hair!  i think i'll keep the tattoo for a while, however...

peace, love, and brain candy,
ponygirl (you can call me amy until 11:59 tonight, though =)

p.s.  my guitar even looks like amy's...whoo-hoo!

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 22:31:49 -0500
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subject:      closer to dyin' (minimal igc)

actually this is called "closer to dyke" (and they don't mean any disrespect
- it's just a joke :) - but they came up with some pretty good lyrics) ...
performed by my friends mary beth & ashley - better known as commonbond ...
they're from washington dc ... these are the newest tour dates ....

november

wednesday   6th  henrietta hudsons  new york, ny  9-11
thursday    7th  mr. henry's        wasington, dc 8-11
            resturant/bar - great food
friday      8th  metropol cafe & gallery baltimore, md 8-10
sunday     10th  benefit for bad habits softball  baltimore
wednesday  13th  phase i            washington, dc  9-11
thursday   14th  hepburns           baltimore, md  9-11
friday     15th  party for justice  towson state
thursday   21st  vienna tap & grill vienna, va  9-12
friday     22nd  sister's           philda., pa  10-1
saturday   23rd  hawthorne's        greenbelt, md  9-1:30
sunday     24th  coconuts           baltimore, md  8:30-10:30
saturday   30th  macgregor's        havre de grace, md 9-1

december

wednesday   4th  phase i   washington, dc  9-11
thursday    5th  vienna tap & grill  vienna, va  9-12
thursday   12th  mr. henry's washington, dc  8-11
friday     13th  frogg pond  doorman rick's birthday weekend
saturday   14th  frogg pond  rehoboth beach, de 9-1
thursday   19th  south ramp
saturday   21st  private party
tuesday    31st  the hide away  new years party  10-2

check 'em out - they're great performers ... they have two cd's out "super
elastic acoustic plastic" and "colors of life" (live @ the birchmere) ...
they're mostly original stuff - with some good covers thrown in there - stuff
like - ig, me, bonnie raitt, mary chapin-c, alanis ... they really kick ass
on guitar too - both of 'em ... i'll be at the nyc show and sister's in
philly on the 22nd ...

if anyone has any questions about them, feel free to e-mail me :)

chris (the guini-meister)

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 10:53:40 -0500
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subject:      re: problem child lyrics

just wanted to correct one thing in those lyrics that were posted... i think
it's "this _debtor's_ blood runs in my veins", (you know, like, georgia was
originally a debtor's colony... where britain sent all of the non-dangerous
criminals to alleiviate their jail overcrowding problem... that is right,
isn't it?...).  so, since amy has deep georgia roots, she says "debtor's
blood". i think that's right, anyway.

:) lisa

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 23:11:52 -0500
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      hey kind friend lyrics

        hi y'all...well, i've been busy and with some help (thanks deb) i
finished my take on hkf...
        keep in mind that every show was different and i used the "majority
rules" law when choosing this set of lyrics...
        well, let me know what you think!

        jen

        hey kind friend

        hey kind friend
        don't know when i'll see you again
        on a ferry boat bound to victoria laying down to hide from the wind

        big dipper hanging over the city
        you know everything now is different for me
        ain't no use in explaining this scenery

        i said, hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, remember who i am

        i was too late in spokane
        so i caught a ride through the cascade range
        i saw the sun die in olympia, running down on capital lane

        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        at 3 am, it's good company

        i don't know when i'm going to see you again
        it's okay friend, it's okay friend

        so i'll meet you in new orleans or i'll see you around
        'cause i don't know if these highs will be coming down
        i said i'm calling you from a goldrush town

        i say, hey kind friend help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me to remember who i've been
        hey kind friend, i don't know when i'm going to see you again
        it's ok friend, it's ok friend
        i said it's ok friend, i'm ok friend


"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
     -amy ray

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 23:55:32 -0500
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subject:      re: hey kind friend lyrics

in a message dated 96-10-31 23:22:33 est, the lyrics are transcribed
as possibly being :

<< i saw the sun die in olympia, running down on capital lane >>

i'm pretty sure it would be capital lake (on the other hand,
main drag that goes past the gv't buildings is called capitol way...)
but there is a walkway that surrounds the lake that is popular
for runners and walkers. (it took me a while to figure
that one out but i was obsessed because...well..i'm from olympia :)
(you know there are 4 listers in this lil' town ? pretty neet huh.)
i am absolutely swollen with civic pride :)

i like the 'debtors blood' take..makes more 'sense' than
darish or garish 8 ] also sounds so very "amy" :)
love and oysters,
clairee poo

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