lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-11a

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 13:31:17 est
reply-to:     "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
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from:         "cynthia a. crecca" <crecca@admin.njit.edu>
subject:      nigc:  that cookie thing...

i don't know if this thing is true or not... even if it is not i cannot
help but wonder, how did this woman not know she was being charged $250.00
for a recipe if she put it on her credit card?  doesn't she have to sign
the credit card receipt?  doesn't she look to see what she is signing to?
isn't $2.50 an unusual amount to charge anyway?  i just don't understand
and can't stop thinking about the "hows and whats" of this senerio...

can anyone tell that i have a tendency to ponder unnessassary details
incessantly?

oh well...

happy halloween!

cynthia

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...... please.. answer me...............................................

i apologize...rebrad@aol.com got half of the sig trivia too. so he/she
(what sex are you anyway, rebrad?) get half of a special prize. :)

andi

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                     my plans in pieces my plans mislaid
                         it's the will of the way...
                           and it's alright."-es
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date:         wed, 30 oct 1996 10:37:12 -0800
reply-to:     kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      how i was first introduced to the ig...
x-to:         jonny wu <wuman@warwick.net>
in-reply-to:  <3276d946.7b86@warwick.net>

hey ya'll, great thread.

it was the summer of 90...a hot, listless heat had settled in on toronto.
a girl named jocelyn was driving me home from soccer...'closer to fine' was
playing in her car...at the time i really thought she was cool so i asked who
was singing...a week later i went on my first "date" with the woman of my
dreams..(who is now my life partner) and when she picked me up...yes, the
same song was playing! i took it as a sign of divine intervention and i have
been eternally grateful to the indigo girls ever since! i have no idea
what happened to jocelyn.
peace all, kim (north vancouver)

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 01:28:49 -0800
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: hey kind friend lyrics
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>
> << i saw the sun die in olympia, running down on capital lane >>
>
> i'm pretty sure it would be capital lake (on the other hand,
> main drag that goes past the gv't buildings is called capitol way...)
> but there is a walkway that surrounds the lake that is popular
> for runners and walkers. (it took me a while to figure

i was convinced it was "capitol way" she sang...but it makes more sense to
run around the lake (duh) but i could have sworn she said capitol way!!
i must be crazy.

heh just got back from the ani show in seattle. she rocked (duh, of
course). if you seattle list humans missed it, boo on you. =) anyway for
the igc of this message, the radio played "least complicated" 2 miles out
of bellingham -- pretty rare, i've never heard that station play ig
before. it was a cool way to end the evening and i sang really loudly,
which probably annoyed the person riding with me but oh well, it was
ig on the radio!!! =)

kristina

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 17:06:43 -0500
reply-to:     jean bardin <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
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from:         jean bardin <jmbardin@mailbox.syr.edu>
subject:      re: problem child lyrics
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on thu, 31 oct 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-10-31 02:28:23 est, jen writes:
>
> amy sings: <<" this darish blood runs in my veins.."
>
> do you suppose it could be : "this -garish- blood runs in my veins..." ??
> that would kinda make sense (ha !! as if that were a priority :)
> just a random rambin' thought. thanks for posting the lyrics !
> can't wait for'heykindfriend" (my new favorite song:)

thought i'd delurk to say i'd always heard it as "debtor's blood". don't
know where that would come from exactly, maybe some of her ancestors were
among those who came over from europe to work off debts rather than going
to debtors' prison? (not attempting to cast aspersion on amy's family,
it's just a theory)

-jean (a bit light-headed from coming to the surface)

in a message dated 96-10-31 12:59:46 est, it is written :

<< also...does anyone know in the song what chicano city park is..where is it
why so many references in the song... >>

you know...when i fist heard the line went....

"down to the mexican trailer park" which for me had more 'punch" to it
she was utilizing the common 'crude' venacular, there and to
me it shined a laser light on the implied racism and classism,
she crosses over to 'the other side of the tracks" and finds beauty
and love there, so to speak.
(sorry about the verbiosity but it's the middle of the quarter ya kow and
i can't stop talkin like 'dis ;)
anywaysome folks i talked to have speculated that she changed the
lyric out of sensitivity to hispanic-americans who are sick of being
refered to as 'mexican' when they are clearly not....this being said.....
i felt that using the term in the first version was more moving because
drew attention to the way people a catagorized in this society....and
the song has a lot to do with that.
anyone else ?
boo !
binky
"suck that booger dry !!!!!!"
(the evil one ;)

good morning all,

i like this thread - its great to see so many people who have been inspired
to pick up a guitar by the girls. for my part, my favorite has to be galileo
although its pretty exhausting - em's part with the alternative guitar
tuning really gives you pinky ache by the end - phew! as for the solo -
well i can nearly play it note for note...
also love playing half moon cafe - once again the alternative chords make it
a real challenge - can't quite get it - its that shift between that last
chord of the sequence and the first one that gets me cursing everytime..how
the heck does em manage to get that so sounding so seamless?
recent fave is wild horses - know its not strictly an ig song but what the
hey. does anyone happen to have lyrics? i'm doing a gig on monday and
this might have to be one of those last minute 'i have to cover this song'
deals...!

as a side topic from this - wondered if anyone had any opinions about how to
do cover versions. i pride myself on being able to cover a song accurately
- i mean, i'll learn the solo note for note, make sure i get every chord
variation in there and practise and practise until i get it perfect... but
on the other hand i guess its better to do things differently and make them
your own...but where do you draw the line...?

a good friend of mine recently covered joan o's one of us and for some
obscure reason - can't have been a pure mistake cos she's too good a
musician - managed to completely change the feel of the song by replacing
the first minor chord with a major - think it went g,c,g,d instead of
em,c,g, d...'fraid it did not work! sounded like a sunday school hymn and i
think thats what the audience thought it was - they completely missed the
irony in the lyrics!

the cover versions that really work for me are ones that manage to preserve
the feeling of the original song, but add some new dimension to it. guess
practically every ig cover song is a good example, but ones that really
stand out are river & down by the river, or sarah mclachlan's blue... but
then, what about romeo & juliet - completely different feel from the
original and absolutely wonderful...

be interested to hear anyone elses thoughts...

have a great weekend everybody!
**************
seffy
cod==#
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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 06:19:01 -0600
reply-to:     blue moon coffeehouse <bluemoon@titan.iwu.edu>
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subject:      re: sara lee
x-to:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sgi.3.94.961031212034.5596c-100000@indy1>

i think the third city is austin..it was in texas, and according to sara
was the place they were going to spend the most time at working on all the
nuances of finishing the work. as for your other question..i thought the
same thing, but i think they are at the point of redoing certain tracks,
adding layers on what they have already done, working on mixes, etc.

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date:         thu, 31 oct 1996 21:17:21 -0800
reply-to:     wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: problem child lyrics
x-to:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
in-reply-to:  <199610312218.raa04285@shell.monmouth.com>

i always thought it was "deader's" blood, but i don't know what that
would mean.

>         five generations running fast
>         these things will not pass
>         this debtor's blood runs in my veins
>         i can't change anything

could someone fill me in on the background of this song?  who wrote it?
'wild horses' is on 2 of my new boots, and i love it!  i've been listening
to it over and over and over again...  i have this song in one tape deck
and 'shame on you' in the other...i feel like i'm neglecting the other
songs, but i can't help myself!!!(;

happy day,
jennie
check out my very own sig.file!!!

"sometimes i feel so reckless and wild,
sometimes i feel like a motherless
child..." -shawn colvin

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 10:47:10 -0500
reply-to:     chris papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
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from:         chris papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
subject:      re: nigc: ? about university web access
x-to:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
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on wed, 30 oct 1996, sheri e. allen wrote:

> someone on the list brought something to my attention and i wanted to
> apologize.  the issue of free speech was mentioned, as well as how the above
> statement i made is just as bad as the nazi messages being spread throughout
> the school.  so first, i'd like to apologize for filling everybody's
> mailboxes with my anti-nazi propaganda.  i wouldn't want to offend.

forgive me for putting in my two cents, but there's this rather nice quote
that i can't quite get right...something about "your right to freedom
ends..." damn, can't remember the rest, but that main point is that
someone else's freedom should not extend so far as hurting anyone, and
when it does, it's not covered by it. and when someone preaches hatred
and murder, that's taking free speach too far.

my apologies for any bother that i've caused.

chris.

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>could someone fill me in on the background of this song?  who wrote it?
>'wild horses' is on 2 of my new boots, and i love it!  i've been listening
>to it over and over and over again...  i have this song in one tape deck
>and 'shame on you' in the other...i feel like i'm neglecting the other
>songs, but i can't help myself!!!(;
>
the song was originally written by mick jaggar and keith richards and sang
by the rolling stones back in the late 60s.  they do a great version of it
on their recent acoustic (sorta) album called "stripped".  they also do cool
version of dylan's "like a rolling stone".  the sundays also did a great
cover version of wild horses a few years back.

hope this helps!

rob

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 09:50:04 -0600
reply-to:     tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
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subject:      re: i need your....
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on thu, 31 oct 1996 red2@lince.itcelaya.ciateq.mx wrote:

> necesito la suscripcion a su foro por que los temas tratados en el me
> resultan de interes para mi carrera, por favor comuniquence a:

uh... confusion... ??

jen

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 11:24:06 -0500
reply-to:     kim rhoades <secruss@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu>
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organization: suny at stony brook
subject:      you know you're an obsessed fan when...

okay, this is far-fetched but you know you're an
obsessed ig fan when:

you are inclined to watch a horror film (even though you hate them)
because it's called prince of darkness.

you are watching home improvement and you really like jill's hair
after she takes off the head of her dinosaur halloween costume
because it looks exactly like amy's on the cover of the self-titled
album.

thinking of a&e in the weirdest situations...
kim

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 12:30:14 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: wild horses
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              "jennie" at nov 1, 96 10:33:11 am

rolling stones.
(period)
actually i need to make a few tapes this afternoon so i may be listening to
thgat at some point as well.
mike r
*trying to do a month's worth of latin in one afternoon*
(uggh!)

you see the new ford concept car in the paper
it's called the ford indigo
and you wonder how much it costs to buy it
paint it purple and put the ig logo (from the hat)
on the side
hmmmmmmmmm.........

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i would like to discuss the honor the earth tour and cd. my email is
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in a message dated 96-10-31 11:36:16 est, hak@crai.com (keates, harry)
writes:

> since there has been some confusion recently as to when people are being
>  serious and when they are joking, and having to write in that it is a
>  joke takes some of the fun out of it,  i think we need to adopt an
>  official netspace.org symbol for   i'm kidding/this is a joke/i'm not
>  serious/this is sarchasm.   i think if we can all easily decipher hmd,
>  so, and loc, and can distinguish between mcc, me, and mm without trouble,
>  we can handle this.
>

yes, i think we should do this since i think my post about me feeling bad
about saying 'nazi bastards' was taken seriously. i tend to be very
non-confrontational so if i want to make a point sometimes i use sarcasm.
but if you don't know me you won't know that.... so...anyway, yes we should
create another face thingy ;) :\ :]

and i had another ig dream but it wasn't very good so i'm not even going to
bother...

-sheri :)
yay! all halloween candy is 50% off!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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this is for everyone who wrote back to me about my copy of the world cafe
boot. i'm ready to make copies and i appologize for the delay! could
everyone who is interested please e-mail me once more as a reminder and i
shall send you the address to send a trade or blank tape. thank you so much
for the patience!

:) abigail

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well if hearing ig broadcast on national radio for a halloween special
doesn't put you in a good mood, i don't know what will! world cafe played
the 1200c version of ghost on the air last night, what a pleasant surprise!
part ii of wc's halloween special is on tonight's show, and while ig
probably won't be on again, tune in for some great music!

:)abigail

so a couple of nights ago, i dream i'm doing
something in a restaurant (working....i don't know
what at...fixin or makin' sumpin..)

and amy's practicing for a show that's gonna
be that night...and she kicks off "high horse"
...not the acoustic version that is on the early stuff...
but the screamin' rockin' version that hash did at
atlanta pride !!!

and i thought ..hey...this song truly rocks !!!!!
they should put the electric version on their new album ! okay
so maybe it's not as highbrow as some of their lyrics...but
it speaks to a universal theme...i mean most of us can definitely
reeelate !! and it really does rock.....

...later amy is saying something to me that is really nice, but i can't
understand her because her mouth is full of strawberry yogurt and
granola...so it comes out like this :

"claire...mfbn mblf smuf spwek !!!"

wow...
so then i have to get my bag which is in a pile with their stuff..[which
has a lot of guatamalan weavings crammed in it]
...cuz i gotta be somewhere....

the end.

personally...i think it's a sign.
love !
binky
"can't sleep...clown will eat me..."
(bart s.)

hi :) i just wanted to share... i began playing guitar after being inspired by ig!! i
have sung for years and have always said that someday i needed to learn to play
the guitar or piano so i could write my own stuff... well, after almost 10 years of
singing along with ig, i am now playing along too :)  i have really discovered a new
understanding of amy's stuff now that i had begun playing her tunes ( because, let's
face it...they are easier!) i always identified more with emily and her lyrics ( i am a
cancer...i am a teacher...i think i had a very similar upbringing ....whatever) and i
liked to sing her parts... but since i have been playing amy's songs and singing them
(and rediscovering this wonderful rich lower register i have- just a bonus ;)) i have
grown to appreciate her musicianship and the way she can create a mood with a chord and
a verse....it's so cool... she like, paints with her songs...ya know??? catch my drift?
it sounds odd, but i feel i have been blessed to have such beautiful and
thoughtful music surround my life.  the indigo girls have definatley made an
impact on my life! i appreciate them and wish i could say that in person, but "it'll
never happen"...i take solice in the fact that every year i get the chance to introduce
ig to the kids in my classes... and if they can get any of what i have from their music
then this world will be a better place...  anyway, i have no idea why i am writing
this...none of you will ever read this far.... if ya do, please e-mail me... just
curious ;) peace   vw

well,  a couple nights ago i had a weird dream too,  all i can remember are
fragments,  first, i was in this wherehouse, where amy lived, and she and i
and emily were hanging out  :)  then,  one of the olympic mountains
erupted, this was sort of upsetting, cause my family lives right next to
them, and even weirder is that these are not volcanic mountains.  then i
was in the water, and these orca whales,  three of them,  had there head
blown off by a bomb, and they were bobbing around and bleeding,  kinda
upsetting to me,  then there was gonna be an earthquake, and amy and i went
and stood in a doorway.  but the earthquake never happened, and i woke up.
i do not know where all these violent things are coming from, but at least
i got to stand in a doorway with amy ray...hee hee

peace, love, and purple,
sundara bara bo bara banana fana fo fara, fe fi fo mara, sundara!!!!

as a woman, i have no country.
as a woman, i want no country.
as a woman, the whole world is my country.

virginia woolf
three guineas

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date:         fri, 1 nov 1996 16:25:02 -0800
reply-to:     wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
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from:         wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
subject:      re: inspirational indigo
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i have to agree with how different their writing styles are.  i usually
only play emily song when i play guitar because i tend to think they are
more interesting, and her voice is in my limited range.  but once in a
while, i just play a slew of amy songs and it's a really different feel.
so much more rhythmic, i guess.  if i could scream like amy, i'm sure
i'd play her songs a lot more.  i also agree that amy paints
pictures with her songs, but i think emily does that too.

my new favorites to play are mystery and language or the kiss. i'd been
playing guitar before i knew them, but the first song i actually learned
from the songbook was airplane. i know, it's kind of weird huh?

wendell

--- you wrote:
s "the same sun that
warms your skin will suck that booger dry.." will run over and over in
my head like they allways do now thanks to, i think, susan, who must
now admit that she has replaced barney as "evil incarnate" :)
--- end of quoted material ---
hee hee hee binkums, i'm coming after you....and i've got boooooggggerrrrsss

:) sushi-bear
(isn't that obnxious? its what my roommate called me in college...ugh)

        hi y'all...i've been busy again and got a respite from foul-weather
hiking tonight, so here are the lyrics to "leeds" (thanks anna for kicking
me into gear again and clearing some things up...)
        let me know what you think....
                jen

leeds

        it's dark at 4 pm in leeds
        the steeples pierce the skylight 'till the last of it bleeds
        the absent sound of another day as it recedes
        into the shadows
        until it's nothing

        fax paper slipped under the hotel room door
        like food for the prisoner or the prospect to the whore
        well-fed and halfway drunk, i ache (beg) myself for more
        until i'm shadows of myself
        until i'm nothing

        sixteen black churches burning on the tv
        all the way from texas to tennessee
        a politician locks my eye and says to me,
        there is no crisis here
        there's no conspiracy

        i crave inertia, every move made so i can stop
        whatever this madness is in me spinning like a top
        on a bed of anxiety over a deep dark drop
        down into nothingness
        into an emptiness (valueless)

        was it ever so the evil creep like ivy
        i took a hold on the stronger half of nature's dichotomy
        beating back a path through nothing more than pure insistence
        until here becomes the distance

        hold my head love, i'm sick tonight
        find the open hole and press your fingers there with all your might
        before the last ounce of my spirit bleeds
        onto the pristine sheets
        of the hotel bed in leeds

"i don't wanna to wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time,
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
let me tell you, if you can't feel it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
-amy ray

in a message dated 96-10-29 19:25:04 est, arbatson@hsutx.edu (hsu amber r.
batson) writes:

>you are tempted to steal the black cd divider that says "indigo girls"
>from walmart.
>
>i refrained, though. it would be much better for the girls if i left the
>divider there.
>amber
>
>

oh my gosh! i could only admit this to you all...but...i have done this....

hanging my head in shame...
jan

it says "i need the subscription to your .... because" i think then he says
something about because it's of interest for his career. then, "please write
me at:"
i'm just in 2nd year spanish and forgot my diccionary.

hollie

at 01:41 pm 10/31/96 -0600, you wrote:
>necesito la suscripcion a su foro por que los temas tratados en el me
>resultan de interes para mi carrera, por favor comuniquence a:
>
>red2@lince.itcelaya.ciateq.mx
>
>o
>
>red2@200.23.53.162
>
>...... please.. answer me...............................................
>
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hi everyone!
i'm new on the computer, to the net and this awesome list! i'm looking
for ig fans in durham, nc (or near there) - i'm new to the area and i'm
looking for some freinds. help!

amy hannon (litlbits)

okay, thanks to susan and jocelyn (once again) i have a
clarification of a verse:

        i crave inertia, every move made so i can stop
        whatever this madness is in me spinning like a top
        on a bed of anxiety over a deep dark drop
        down into nothingness
        into *** without-you-ness***

thanks again you two...and btw (nigc) 20/20 is on right now and
sometime within the next hour, the interview with me about she and julie's
baby will be on...

peace
jen

hi everyone!
i'm new on the computer, to the net and this awesome list! i'm looking
for ig fans in durham, nc (or near there) - i'm new to the area and i'm
lookjing for some freinds. help!

amy hannon (litlbits)

rena suggested that i keep this ig trivia thing going, so since i'm partial
to quotes, here's another. anyone who can name the speaker wins a very
special prize! :) this one's harder than the last...

"there's always gonna be somebody better and always gonna be somebody
worse; it just depends how you look at it, (someone's name which if
included would give away the speaker of the quote)!"

if you can name the person's name at the end of the quote, you win the
extra special prize...

andi

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thats french i do beleive

on fri, 1 nov 1996, tritessa wrote:

> on thu, 31 oct 1996 red2@lince.itcelaya.ciateq.mx wrote:
diont quote me but i think>

> > necesito = necessary
la suscripcion = subscription
a su foro por que los temas tratados en el me
> > resultan de interes para mi carrera, por favor comuniquence a:
looks liek someone asking whats necessary for results of a subscritpion
and please communitcat with them>

> uh... confusion... ??
>
> jen
>
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> ...later amy is saying something to me that is really nice, but i can't
> understand her because her mouth is full of strawberry yogurt and
> granola...

are you sure this wasn't strawberry yogurt and grape nuts?

- kristina

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the greek upon the stars http://www.az.com/~andrade

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okay, here's what the mystery message means (_yes_ it's in spanish):

i need the subscription to this group because the ideas discussed relate
to (are of interest) (have resulted in interest) for my career.

don't ask me, it's badly structured, incorrect spanish that doesn't make
any sense. my mother would be horrified :)

colorin, colorado, este cuento se ha acabado.

emily

could someone out there give some info and/or setlist on
the ig boots "nothing to hide" and "complicated girls?"

thanks

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i apologize if this has already been mentioned...i'm behind on mail. :)

i heard about an honor the earth concert at the atomic music hall in athens
but didn't know anything about it until reading the student newspaper at
uga. admission is $3 and it starts at 10.

unfortunately, my husband doesn't want to go and i don't want to go by
myself. :p

shanna

*from the red and black 11/1, by nicki hendrix*reprinted without permission*

atomic earth benefit to honor native american environmental concerns

in 1996, many people accest as a fact that native americans have been taken
advantage of in the past, if not in the present. without the contributions
of the indigo girls' amy ray and emily saliers, and many bands like the
three that will play at the atomic music hall tonight, such knowledge may
not be so widespread.

during the 1994 swamp ophelia tour, the indigo girls becaome involved in
the fight to imform the public of native american concerns and to benefit
charities which address these concerns.

the resulting honor the earth tour netted $300,000 and spawned a series of
similar concerts. tonight, athens gets its chance to participate.

addison blue, loveapple, and lift will play this evening in athens' own
version of the honor the earth benefit.

"the event itself is geared to hlep three charities-seventh generation,
women's indigenous league, and the indigenous environmental network," said
event organizer natalie chalfin.

according to chalfin, the concerns these groups address are primarily
environmental. "these groups anre involved in changing legislation," she
said. "they're trying to stop hydroelectric damming, clear cutting, nuclear
dumping- because a lot of that takes place on native american
reservations."

"it isn't that these people are stupid or ignorant- they just aren't
informed, aren't aware."

the second goal of the honor the earth benefit campaign is to raise
awareness. "the groups are trying to gain back some native americans' land
basis and keep the reservations in the hands of native americans," chalfin
said. "the money itself goes to a trust, and the groups decide what money
goes to whom. it's all in their hands."

chalfin said the benefit tonight will also feature "lots of literature"
from the groups it helps.

"it's just three dollars and the 'honor the earth' cd will be available
there, too."

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
shanna freeman sfreeman@coe.uga.edu

with my confidence on fire i set to fixin' up my roles
my separation of desires just left me deeper down in the hole
*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

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on fri, 1 nov 1996, rachel sefton-smith wrote:

>..how the heck does em manage to get that so sounding so seamless?

'cause she wrote it, and if she wrote it, it was probably something she could
do. i wish i were musical enough to write my own stuff, 'cause then i could
actually play it right...

> does anyone happen to have lyrics? <--wild horses

usually any ig info like this can be found at
http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood/ig.html
but i just looked, and wild horses isn't there. someone posted it a while
back, maybe they'll post it again or send it to you.

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers." -michael shurtleff

in a message dated 96-11-01 05:36:49 est, seffy@epic.co.uk (rachel
sefton-smith) writes:

>ig cover song is a good example, but ones that really
>stand out are river & down by the river, or sarah mclachlan's blue..

"blue" was written by joni mitchell. :-)

peace,
margot

marianne barlow wrote:
>
> i'm also partial to the tongue sticking out
> as a symbol of being silly. ;p (actually that looks like i tasted
> something bitter--maybe someone should revise that--)

how about this: ;b, or :b.  looks a little friendlier & less like
bitter medicine, dontcha think?  i prefer the latter myself, though it
*is* a rather idiotic expression.  or maybe just silly.  which is the
whole point, right?   :b

kathy :b p: (<--- that's a face-off)

p.s. or maybe :b could be "duh!", & ;b would be "i'm being silly here".

binky signed off:
>boo !
>binky
>"suck that booger dry !!!!!!"
>(the evil one ;)
there is a good booger and an evil one?

tracy <not sure whather to be concerned or amused....>

deluking to ask for help.  will be in ny city over thanksgiving and free
place to stay fell through.  can anyone in that area suggest a cheap,
safe place to stay.  please e-mail  me personally at
t.shobert@natlhardwood.org

thanks in advance

tracey shobert
national hardwood lumber association
t.shobert@natlhardwood.org

okay, the best i can offer is:
        newport boot:  "... running down on capitol laaaaaaaake" (which
surprises me cuz' i was sure up to now it was way.  cool.. i learned
something... !)
        bumbershoot boot: "... running down on capit wahhhhhhhh!!! <more
crowd noises as they finally realize it is a local reference> "

i tend to agree that running around the lake would make more sense
than running down capitol way... especially in light of the other scenery
references in the song... what doya' think jeni (aka ms. olympia)

tracy <who went outside, walked the block to her car, rifled through her
tapes, and found the only two boots she has with hkf on them, drove back..
and rewound them to the right places just to check this out... does that
count as obsessed at all? now i can't make myself stop listening to
bumbershoot again ... sigh... incredibly cool to have a boot of a concert i
was at and where i met my significant best.>

"it doesn't appear that she is being held against her will...
well... i mean... it does *appear* that way...."
-- agent dana scully

hi all. there seems to be a leetle confusion surrounding the hte shangri-la
boot and i am afriad i was the cause of it...so here's a little clarification;

1) to all the people who have mailed me asking for a tape of the boot, go ahead
and send your tapes and stuff., and i'll make you a copy of teh show (live from
the shagri la in malibu)

2) to the people who spent time setting up the tape tree, i apologize
sincerely. i am a moron. i didn't catch that y'all were doing that, honest.

3) to everyone who wants the hte boot and hasn't contacted me, please use the
aforementioned tape tree. they have the same show...the shangri la show,
right?...and would be happy to dub it for you.

sorry for the snafoo, pallies. too much pot in high school.

xo, susan

i assume that you have internet access, so a good place to get lyrics to
any song ever written is olga--on line guitar archive.  it also has
chords and "tablature".  i think the address is www.olga.com, but i'm not
sure...try a search.  this is a good resource for any of us who play
guitar and want to do covers.  was teh sunday's version of wild horses
the one on the movie fear?

nelson mcwhorter inet: mcwhorte@mc.edu
box 4915 http://www.mc.edu/~mcwhorte
clinton, ms 39058
"...love the truth more than you fear your own pain..." --unknown

i recently got the ep and more boot; if anyone would like to trade for a
copy, please email me privately.

-kristen
__________________________________________________________________
"in the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's
mind, there are few."
"the truth is always near at hand, within your reach." -suzuki

hello ig <see i read the notification letter> fans!

i am 22 and live in tennessee, and just recently acquired net access, and
hence, the location of this indogo girls list.

i am about the only male that i know that likes the indigo girls, and i am
curious why this is so. i find the ig have really beautiful harmonies and a
clarity that is hard to find elsewhere. perhaps they don't have the brash ,
vulgar sound of green day (sorry gd fans), and that's what keeps them out of
the mainstream male scene. <in my area, at least.>

i'll keep this initial post short, drop me a line if you would like to say hi.

p.s. what do you get when you mix amy,emily, and a watch? indiglo girls! ha,
that was really bad. hmmm. really bad. i'll go hide in the corner.

goodbye,
one in ig

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dear ig-listers,
okay, so there's little igc here. i need your help!
my sister, to whom deb sent a t-shirt and who drove up to minneapolis to
see the hte tour (from missouri), is turning 22 monday. i would really
appreciate it if any of you could send her happy birthday wishes either
sunday or monday!
her name is cathy and her email address is c642693@showme.missouri.edu

thanks!

moving onto the igc, i just got a copy of ring them bells, which has this
awesome cover of "don't think twice, it's alright" with joan baez and the
girls.  also on this album, baez covers "welcome me" with excellent
results.  this led me in a circuitous fashion to wonder:
does anyone have a compilation tape of people who have covered the ig?  i
know we've had threads about people who should and shouldn't, but what
about people who have?  anyone?  anyone?  bueller?  bueller?

and also, did anyone ever come up with a boot for the bread and roses
concert?  i'm afraid if i ask on the dar williams list i'll get
flamed--we on that list are not encouraged to bootleg things, am i right,
y'all (susan, scot, harry, sherlyn, etc.)?  but i want a boot from this
concert!  so please email me if you've got one.

thanks everyone!
off to grad rhetoric papers!
love,
suzi
ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu

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me too! actually i stole the little yellow sign at tower records that
said "on tour april,15 indigo girls". except i did it after the concert
so is it still immoral?
ben

on fri, 1 nov 1996 janinsdale@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-10-29 19:25:04 est, arbatson@hsutx.edu (hsu amber r.
> batson) writes:
>
> >you are tempted to steal the black cd divider that says "indigo girls"
> >from walmart.
> >
> >i refrained, though. it would be much better for the girls if i left the
> >divider there.
> >amber
> >
> >
>
> oh my gosh! i could only admit this to you all...but...i have done this....
>
> hanging my head in shame...
> jan
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hi all. okay, i think i got it now! the hte boot i have is from the shangri-la
concert in malibu, and broadcast over the radio. the tape tree on the other
hand is the minneapolis boot and includes the radio show and the computer
boradcast from there.

so, i stand correeeccccted (ever notice how much i like repeated letters?)

if you want the malibu show, then contact me. if minnepaolis, then the tree.
guess i wasn't so stoned in high school that i missed that day of geometry 8-)

xo and all that,
sus

hi jess & everyone,
        no i'm not the amy hannon from maine.  i lived in the suburbs of
philadelphia, pa , va beach, va , and now north carolina.  i've never
met any "amy hannon's" outside of my family.  on an amusing note: my
brother married an amy so now my sister-in-law has the same name as me
too (first, middle and last).  i find that pretty funny.

amy h

ok...i know this has been covered before... but is there any way...any way
possible, that i could get one of those list t-shirts...they are soooooo cool
and i amreally pissed off at myself for thinking " you have too many t-shirts
as it is.." so please if anyone could help me outr here.. i'd really
appreciate it...

peace
sasha

i forgot to add this--please email me the defintions privately, i know this
is a given, but you can never make assumptions...thanks again. tricia

i apologize to ask this in this forum, but i thought it would be an ideal
place.  for an assignment, i have to collect as many different definitions
of love as possible, from all different types of people.  i thought you all
would have great insight into this matter...if anyone would like to send me
their own personal defintion of love, i would be so happy, and you just
might make it into the paper i'll be writing...woo-woo!  i need yuo
defintion and you first and last name, this is all...thanks again and sorry
to waste the space...tricia

"learn to pretend there's more than love that matters"-ig

hi all...  a friend of mine asked for the lyrics to the new songs...  i lost
most of them,  all i have is blood quantum and leeds...  if you could send
them to me, i'd appreciate it...  i also want to put them all together so
that they'll be there for more idiots like me who have a happy delete finger...

have a nice day,

alec

dear ig fans,
i was at the concert at roseland in nyc (it was sold out so i had to buy
tickets from scalpers- don't even ask how much i paid!)and it was awesome!!!
it was my first time seeing amy and emily live and i can't wait to do it
again. anyway, i was wondering if anyone had a good boot of this concert.
if anyone does please e-mail me personally and i would really appreciate it.
thanks in advance!

david

"secure yourself to heaven. hold on tight, the night has come. fasten up
your earthly burdens, you have just begun." -amy ray

hi, mary,

sorry to post this to the list.

i sent a 90 minute tape for the bumbershoot boot. i was wondering if
you got it and sent it back yet. please e-mail me privately.

thanks,

donna

announcement: looking for a fun evening of music??? of course you are!

        madison's cafe and music house
        3803 delridge way sw
        (west)seattle
        935-2412

        8:00pm tonight!! sat. nov. 2nd.
        karen capaldi from colorado & erin corday (local artist)
        both are independant singer/songwriters.
        $5.00 cover
you won't be disappointed!!!!  see ya there!
stacy.
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how can i get my name on the boot tree?
help!?

hey kind friends...

if you've seen ani on her current tour, please help!!  i have a real problem:
i' have tix to her show in ny on nov. 22.  the show starts at 8:00, but one
of my all time heros, roger ebert, is doing a book signing down the street
from 7:30-8:30.  now, i'll sacrifrice an opening act to meet roger, but i
have to make sure there is an opening act!  any help is appreciated...also, i
realize that openers change from show to show, but in general, what time does
she go on?
thanks,
stephen

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hi all, does anyone have a good recording of the cbc winnepeg show from
5/31/95? mine has an awful lot of tape hiss, and i was hoping there'd be
a clearer copy out there somewhere. i have lots to trade!

thanks, wendell

hi lara,

thanks for responding to my boot tree message. however (i may be thick
headed at this point) how do i find out where scorpio's go?
will the boot tree be posted just like these messages?

also, i was wondering if anyone went to the kristen hall show at
eddie's attic last night? i wish i could have...details!!

amy h

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my question is, how can the other artists know what to do until amy and
emily have already recorded their stuff?  it seems awfully backwardfs to
me.  anyone have any insight?  also, if you guys/girls don't already know,
and want to, they are recording their new album in 3 cities.  nashville,
atlanta, and one other one that i don't remember them saying.

wendell

on thu, 31 oct 1996, blue moon coffeehouse wrote:

> sara told me over breakfast oct. 18 that she had laid her tracks for the
> new album as had all the other guest musicians..and now amy and emily are
> in the studio working on their stuff..sara thought the new cd would be out
> in march.

you wrote:
>
>my question is, how can the other artists know what to do until amy
and emily have already recorded their stuff? it seems awfully
backwardfs to me.

i don't know how ig do it, but the standard practice is for the
songwriter to generate a demo (say maybe an acoustic guitar duet with
singing) that lays out the basic structure of the song. other
musicians use the demo as the basis for their parts. then the singers
and lead instrument voices use the previously laid down tracks to
refine their parts.

hugh barroll

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ok, now i have another question, i remember them saying in the old days
how they would do most of their recording live, but now it seems like they
are doing things in steps. i would assume that the earlier way of
recording would be more spontaneous, and fresh, while the more recent way
is more cut-and-pasted. does anyone know if they still record things with
the whole band live?

> nuances of finishing the work. as for your other question..i thought the
> same thing, but i think they are at the point of redoing certain tracks,
> adding layers on what they have already done, working on mixes, etc.
>

hey y'all...

things are a little light up here on the scorpio end of the hte tree =
(that's minneapolis...), and i need some constructive activities to fill =
up my spare time, so all you november babies out there that want a copy, =
let me know...
also sundara (hey babe), my significant other, and i (and hopefully yoko =
the subaru), are planning on meeting before the melissa concert on the =
13th. i've left sundarling with the daunting task of finding something =
fun to do in tacoma. i'd love to have a list meeting, so anyone who's =
interested contact one of us & we'll figure it out.

...wheels in motion...
greta

hi y'all...

was wondering if anyone could tell me where i could get a copy of michelle
malone's "relentless" she released w/ dtr on artista. please email me
privately as i am no longer on the list! thanx....

amyk

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from:         maria katherine pulzetti <mkp6n@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
subject:      day of silence update
x-to:         bluemoon@titan.iwu.edu, fsrrl1@aurora.alaska.edu,
              indirabbit@aol.com, inferno@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu,
              keanchor@vax1.acs.jmu.edu, klynch@longwood.lwc.edu,
              lgbfsa@virginia.edu, sbruce@longwood.lwc.edu

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maria katherine pulzetti
mkp6n@virginia.edu
http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~mkp6n

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from:         maria katherine pulzetti <mkp6n@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
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              jaceitun@fas.harvard.edu, jandris@siue.edu

on nov 3,  4:09pm, "maria katherine pulzetti" wrote:
> subject: day of silence update
> on nov 3,  3:31pm, "maria katherine pulzetti" wrote:
> > subject: day of silence, again
> > contact people for lgbt student/youth groups, friends, and others:
> >
> > i'm writing again about the day of silence, although some of the people
who
> > get this message will not have gotten the original message.  briefly, the
> day
> > of silence is a lgbt youth event i'm organizing for april 9, 1997, during
> > which supporters of lgbt equality take a nine hour (9am-5pm) vow of
silence
> > to honor the silence forced upon lgbt people.  we held the day of silence
> at
> > the university of virginia last year, and it met with such great success
> and
> > support that we are trying to make it a nationwide event.
> >
> > an update on the planning--
> > i have received positive response from many schools around the country,
> which
> > is very encouraging.  when i first started contacting people, i was sort
of
> > testing the waters, but now i'm sure that the dos is really going to fly.

> > **you need to make your organization part of the day of silence so we can
> > show the solidarity and the size of the lgbt youth movement!**  our
> > generation faces a much more open environment than previous ones, which
> gives
> > us the responsibility to use our voices to demand change.
> >
> > i will be at the ngltf creating change conference in alexandria, va next
> week
> > (nov. 6-10).  i'll be at the youth institute on thursday and then at the
> > regular events sat. and sun.  i hope to meet some of you there, and i
will
> > also use the opportunity to spread the word about day of silence.
> >
> > check out the day of silence web page at:
> > http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~mkp6n
> > it is updated regularly and will be the best source of current info about
> the
> > event.  it also goes into much more detail than i do over email.  we have
> had
> > over 100 visitors to the web page so far!
> >
> > please write to me if you want or need more info, or if you have
questions
> or
> > ideas.  also, if your organization would like to participate, let me
> > know--i'm keeping a list.
> >
> > thanks,
> > maria
> > university of virginia lesbian gay bisexual union
> >
> > *  -  *  -  *  -  *
> > maria katherine pulzetti
> > mkp6n@virginia.edu
> > http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~mkp6n
>
> > if you are not receiving these messages direclty, and would like to be
> added
> > to the dos mailing list, send your e-mail address to mkp6n@virginia.edu
> with
> > the message:  "please add me to the mailing list."
>
> also, please forward this message.
>
> -- end of excerpt from "maria katherine pulzetti"
<mkp6n@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>

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maria katherine pulzetti
mkp6n@virginia.edu
http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~mkp6n

thanks, jen, for your posts of lyrics for the new songs.

now, i haven't heard leeds yet, so i don't quite know the musical emphasis
behind the words, but i was wondering if there is anyone out there who could
explain to me what the heck emily is writing/singing about?

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers." -michael shurtleff

hello fellow go-heads,
        i was out shopping yesterday and came across the 24-karat gold disc
indigo girls colletors edition and i was wondering if $23.95 was a good deal
or not. who better to ask then y'all on the list ? it features original artwork,
4-color cd picture labels, and the 24k gold discs.
        if someone would e-mail me privately and let me know anything about
this find i would certainly appericate it.
                                           thanks,
                                                sharon

or thought you did.

hi all

i was at the pool on saturday - yes sydneysiders (hi sherlyn) - we have lovely
weather in melbourne at the moment. and sitting on the grass, sunbaking was
amy - of course it wasn't amy - in melbourne australia - but it was nice to
think about it for a while.

bye

sue

the quote was, "there's always gonna be somebody better and always gonna be
somebody worse; it just depends how you look at it, (someone's name which
if included would give away the speaker of the quote)!"

the speaker is amy's dad, & the person at the end is amy.

congratulations to janine (janine@open.org), susan and jocelyn
(teddie@telepath.com), sharon (jennings_sharon/furman@furman.edu), rebekah
(rss163@psu.edu), & abigail (abaroo@execpc.com), who answered correctly!
(i used addresses as well as names b/c so many people have the same names.)
they win an extra-happy indigo day! :)

look for more trivia in the future...

andi

> thanks, jen, for your posts of lyrics for the new songs.
>
> now, i haven't heard leeds yet, so i don't quite know the musical
emphasis
> behind the words, but i was wondering if there is anyone out there who
could
> explain to me what the heck emily is writing/singing about?
>
> anna

i believe it was written during or was at least inspired by the uk tour
in may/june 1994. emily was feeling pretty depressed and sad at the
time..... leeds (a northern city in the uk) does that to people :)

sharon..... from the east midlands and waiting for all the northeners to
flame her :)

hi y'all,
  in response to a few questions i have received i would like to provide more
information about these tapes.  i should have done this sooner...sorry.
  the "live" tape is from the honor the earth concert in minneapolis, mn on
september 20, 1996.  the computer tape was taped off the internet.  the girls
portion of the show is 60 minutes long.  here is the set list:

reunion
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
least complicated
hey, kind friend
it's alright
shame on you
blood quantum
galileo
bury my heart at wounded knee

  to get a copy of this tape, use your birth sign to determine which person
to contact.  that person will tell you where you need to send your blank tape
and return postage.  hope this clears a few things up.  take it easy.

peace,
amy

hi y'all

i just had to share my story.
i know this person who looks like amy ray.
(hold on it gets better) she's about the same
age, and build, so it is understandable that
an indigo fan such as myself would think this
to cool. the even cooler thing is that she sounds
like amy too!!!
the weird part of my little story is that this
friend of mine always has had the same hair-cut as
amy, every time i see amy with a new hair cut i notice
that my friend has the same do.
i think she is amy; i never see the two in the same
place when i am playing ig sogs on my guitar she
will correct me if i play a wrong chord, which is
weird because she doesn't listen to them.

untill i see them togeather i will be convinced they are
the same person.

--sara

ahhhhh!!! sorry for doing this y'all...

my comp address book files just decided to mysteriously erase =
themselves. i am increadibly sorry, but could you send me your address =
again?=20

thanks so much,=20
greta (who now knows it sounds like she's lying through her teeth when =
she says "i really am not this unorginized!")

sorry to post this to the list, but this is pretty important.

so far i have received tapes for bumbershoot from:

pooh
donna schwartz
andrea lipman
camille kearl
danna greenfield
jan stevens
steve moore
amy steinhilber

if i've missed anyone, please e-mail me privately and we'll get things
straigntened out. i am sorry things are taking so long, but i have not
forgotten about you all and your tapes are coming. any other questions,
just feel free to e-mail me.

mary

*******************************************************
mary elizabeth kushman
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/mainpage.html
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

e-mail addresses:
physicsnerd@geocities.com
ugkushma@ecuvm1.cis.ecu.edu
ugkushma@ecuvax.cis.ecu.edu
mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net

"i said, don't, don't give that girl a gun..."--amy ray
*******************************************************

hi folks

i just wanted to offer a sincere and overdue apology.  my computer crashed a
week or so ago and i know i've probably been bouncing messages to some (or all)
of you posters.  i know that can get annoying to some, so i wanted to apologize.
i just gained access to my email account tonight.  i am *very* sorry for any
inconvenience that i may have caused any of you.  :(

apologies,
tamara

i forgot to say that the honorable mention trivia award goes to...<trumpets
fanfare>...jan (janinsdale@aol.com)!!! sorry, bf...

andi

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on sun, 3 nov 1996, sharon james wrote:

> hello fellow go-heads,
> i was out shopping yesterday and came across the 24-karat gold disc
> indigo girls colletors edition and i was wondering if $23.95 was a good deal
> or not. who better to ask then y'all on the list ? it features original artwork,
> 4-color cd picture labels, and the 24k gold discs.
> if someone would e-mail me privately and let me know anything about
> this find i would certainly appericate it.

i've seen the 24k disc for the self titled album at best buy for $21.95.
is this the one you're referring to or is there another one?

jen

p.s. go-heads??

hi all

i was going through some tough stuff in 1993 and my friend in toronto had
visited a friend of hers in new orleans and heard the girls and wrote to me and
told me to go straight out and get some - cds that is ;-)

i haven't looked back - now thanks to a&e i'm addicted to kristen hall, wendy
bucklew, michelle malone, caroline aiken and dede vogt

ahh

sue

strange fire was the first song i learned to play. it is still my favorite.
sf has had a tremendous affect on me.

thanks to ig for all their gifts
pj

i tried to send this to the email address i had for jude, but it was
returned, user unknown... if you're reading me and you aren't jude, sorry,
just delete me.

> hi jude,
>
>  i was just wonderin what was going on with the albany boot you offered to
>  tape for me.  i sent you a tape a while ago, about a month, and haven't
>  gotten anything back.
>
>  let me know if you never received the tape.
>
>  thanks,
>  sheri :)
>

well, i know that many of you were disappointed to find out that
the girls were on aol last nov. instead of this one....but since
i know that many of you are like moi (a major mary chapin
carpenter fan as well), you'll be happy to know that chapin will
be on aol, live and all that, on nov. 26 at 10 pm et (7 pm for
those of us on the west coast).

thought you'd enjoy knowing this, all you aolers. i'm one, too
in my other life.

ann

--
what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind at
all is being very wasteful.
-dan quayle

stumbled across a listing for dar williams in birmingham on november 18th -
don't know any more details, but if go see if you get the chance! she is
absolutely fantastic! also, does anyone knows if this is one date in
isolation or is she doing any more uk shows?

also, if anyone happens to be around my neck of the woods - wet & windy
brighton that is - then pop down to the cybar, 9-12 middle st, 8.30, tonight
(monday 4th) for speakeasy: an evening of live acoustic music.
featuring:
big jim & the weedkillers (beery agressive yet subtle folk rock)
nicky mitchell (powerful vocals, driving guitar, an intense combination)
peter & vicky (2 voices, 2 guitars, 2 good 2 miss!)
seffy & friends (moody and melodic original set from speakeasys host)

phone 01273 676360 for details - performers welcome. 'speakeasy' will
continue on a regular first monday of every month schedule.

**************
seffy
cod==#
**************

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hello there my fellow ig'ers!

i'm julie jansen, a journalism student at queensland university of
technology in brisbane, australia. i have loved ig for only a few short
months having heard them by accident - or was it divine providence? i
think so. i promptly bought 4.5 and was surprised to discover i actually
knew many of the songs already. my faves are dead man's hill, ghost and
galileo (of course).

what else? um, i write as many articles for my school papers, and am
presently in the midst of writing 2 features: 1) bras and their link to
breast cancer, and 2) hate crimes. if you have any insight into either
topic, feel free to write me. when i'm not playing reporter i drink
baileys, watch due south reruns and draw in pastel.

special thanks to my friend paris lord who informed me of the existence of
this list. i don't know if he's on here, but thank you paris darling!

cheerio!
your local pagan/astrologer/naughty person/indigo girlie
julie
  _--_|\  julie jansen  }0:-)>
/      qut journalist-in-training/due south astrologer/veryexcitable person
\_.--._/   brisbane, australia
       v j.jansen@student.qut.edu.au or n1337581@redash.qut.edu.au.
****************************************************************************
- has anyone seen my furry-diced sombrero, castanets and maraccas?

so i'm wondering...i've been flamed, i've started a thread, & you all know
me...so, does this mean that i'm no longer a newbie? is this the end of
newbiedom or newbieness or whatever the state of being a newbie is called?
and what do i get for it? a special prize? :)

andi

hi all,
i'm new here, so please forgive--
i've been seeing mentions of list t-shirts and also a recording of
ig songs done by people on the list. please email me privately and
let me know if and how to get these things! thanks.

tlh
th3307@wcu.edu

does anyone have any photos of the indigo girls at the new orleans jazz
festival or any of their other appearances during 1996? if so please
could they email me a copy (in gif or jpg format) so i can include them on
my web page. (please note: *only* this year! i haven't got enough
space for a huge archive.)

mat

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adverts and junkmail will be read for 500 pounds sterling per item;
sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

hi y'all!
i hope everyone's having a wonderful monday!  (i know, i know, that's a
contradiction in terms.)  now that i'm unemployed, or more
specifically, self-employed, i decided to start trading boots again.
i'm looking for boots from january of 1994 until december of 1995.  if
anyone has tapes of shows from that time period and would like to
trade, you can email me at stankul@ix.netcom.com.  i have quite a few
other tapes, and i'd be happy to copy them for anyone who wants to
trade.  :)  take care, and have a happy monday!
sue harney

the indigo girls are the best!!! pleas put me on your list. thanks!
peace,
kate murray

hi lovies!  in light of the questions and confusion recently, i thoought i
would repost this tape tree, just to clarify,  it's for the minneapolis
honor the earth show, one is from the internet broadcast, and one was taped
directly from the show.  it is an amazing show,  this is the one where new
a verse was added to shame on you, and the sound quality is really great.
so contact your astrological branch with questions and stuff if you want
it!

love sundara

>hi y'all,
>  well, we're finally ready t go with the honor the earth boot tree.  the
>tree will be offering both the "live" audience version and the computer
>version.  just be sure to let your branch know if you want the live version,
>computer version, or both.  send along a note with your blank(s).
>  listed below is the tree.  to get your copy(ies) just e-mail your branch
>and they will tell you what to do from there.   i think everyone knows how
>this works but for any of those who don't, here is how to get your copy(ies).
> contact your branch - they will tell you where you need to send your
>blank(s), return envelope, and return postage.  you send out the needed items
>and the branch will dub the tape(s) and send them back to you.  it's just
>that easy!  :)  thanx to everyone who has helped to get this going.
>
>honor the earth boot tree
>
>gemini             larin        lmclaugh@u.washington.edu
>cancer           linda         napikosk@scf-fs.usc.edu
>leo                  susan       teddie@telepath.com
>virgo              kristina    andrade@az.com
>libra              veronica    vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu
>scorpio           greta         cgohn@olympus.net
>sagittarius    chris         talbotc@umich.edu
>capricorn       sundara      smurphy@ups.edu
>aquarius         elizabeth    chocobo11@aol.com
>pisces              lisa            lmayne@u.washington.edu
>aries                alexandra   aaogilvie@aol.com
>taurus             lisa            nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
>
>asia           anna        ahidalgo@portalinc.com
>aus/nz       sherlyn    sherlyn@cafu.fl.net.au
>uk/eur/can    amy     indiamy@aol.com
>
>  hope everyone enjoys the tapes.  take it easy.
>
>peace,
>amy
>

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x-cc:         indiamy@aol.com

hi there. if you are a cancer you should be writing to me for the hte boot
tape tree, but i want to let you all know that i am going a little
insane right now. i have to make an emergency drive home, etc. so, if you
have already emailed me, i will be responding very very soon. please
forgive the delay.

also, i am temporarily unsubscribing from the list right now, so if there
is any earth-shattering tape tree news, i won't see it. for example, if
someone forgets who the cancer branch is and types "hi--who's the cancer
branch? please email me" then i won't see it. just so y'all know.

i'll be in touch within a couple days....

inspired by gravity,
linda

        "what a piece of work is man...the paragon of animals; and
        yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? man delights
        not me; nor woman neither..."           --hamlet

so last night my x-girlfreind calls me at 2 a.m. at first i was pissed
but she said i had to talk to someone. she put this guy on the line who
said that he had lunch w/ amy ray and drove her to the airport. he said
that you have to look into amy's eyes to see who she really is.
well anyway it was a cool conversation even at 2am:)
ben
" marry me a little. love me just enough. cry but not too often. play but
not to rough."
-stephen sondheim

i had a dream that i was playing around (with a beach ball- get you
rminds out of the gutter!!!) in my swimming pool with emily..
(which is weird because i always have dreams about emily even though i am
an amy person... and i always end up asking her where amy is...)
just wanted to share...
=)
-mandy

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*annoyed sigh* i know i had an ig dream last night, and i know it was
good and i couldn't wait to tell y'all, but now i've forgotten *pout* ok,
i'll keep racking my brain.

jen

i'm new to the list and hope it can fulfill myneed to analyze.  if
anyone wants to discuss the meaning behind the songs, i hold myself to
be a worthy opponent.  if this has already been done too much i
understand.  i'm a late comer and deserve to be left out if it suits
you. keep me posted.  adrienne

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subject:      when are you coming to chicago to play?  utah? georgia?  i really
              need to see yall play!

my favorite thing to do is analyze.  anyway, i often take this to songs,
and lately it's been lyrics from the indigo girls.  i haven't written
anything about watershed yet, so this will be a brief reaching and fumbling
interpretation(i can't procrastinate all night, i have work to finish).
anyway, i believe my quote to be "i thought i knew my mind like the back
of my hand".  this first line sets my brain working in a re-vision mode,
and that's how i continue with it.  as a child, you're taught about the
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and that everything is as you
first take it.  when you're younger, you take, to some extent, what
others tell you because you don't know any better.  all of a sudden,
there's no gold and there never was.  someone lied to you.  they say
only milk and honey's gonna keep your soul satisfied.  this is a
reference to the bible, and at the promised land, will have all the milk
and honey you need.  too bad that the bible is based on a totally
male-orientated society and that leaves no room for the female
tradition.  they understand virginia woolf, so that this is obviously on
their mind when thinking about what we live in.  i don't want to take up
too much space, so i'll end this now.  if anyone has any objections, i'm
happy to hear them.  this is, after all, what tradition is all about.
just remember that neither i, nor you can get into their minds, so what is
said is based on our own personaltities and true selves.  that's pretty
coool that we can read the same words and think of different things
based on different experiences. adrienne

howdy ho y'all

as i was making a copy of the santa fe boot today for some lucky listener, i
noticed the song "remember everything i told you" (or at least that's what i
call it, cause i don't know what its really called). what do y'all think of
this song, obviously emily's? also, what do ya think of the new "bridge" amy
added in to dgtgag? sorry if you haven't heard it yet, its on the minneapolis
boot...i personally love it, but wondering what others think. for once, i
actually care (hahaha, kidding...i'm.......kidding...)

back to dubbing like a mad woman...

xox and all,
susan

dear listees,

i know that this question has been asked....but i was just hoping
someone out there could point me in the right direction in getting a
list t-shirt.

        i know everyone here loves to sing along with the girls.  but what i
was wondering was, who's part do you sing when you sing along?  most of
their songs contain awesome harmony and i was just wondering if more of
you liked to sing the harmony or the melody.  or do you have a
preference as to amy's or emily's parts.  personally, i live for their
intricate harmonies and so i usually sing the harmony.  i also prefer
singing to amy's parts just because i am a guy and emily exceeds my
range sometimes.

well anyway, hopefully someone can help me out with this list shirt
thing. take it easy!!!!!

                                -jonny
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                              wuman@warwick.net
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                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

>as i was making a copy of the santa fe boot today for some lucky listener, i
>noticed the song "remember everything i told you" (or at least that's what i
>call it, cause i don't know what its really called). what do y'all think of
>this song, obviously emily's?

on the set list of the norfolk show, this song was called "in its time". i
really, really like the lyrics, especially the line "a lesson learned, a
loving god and things in their own time." it's lines like those that make
me go, "that woman is living my life!" i mean so far em has written ghost
and mystery for me, and now this song. i'm so glad we have such a bond :)

>also, what do ya think of the new "bridge" amy
>added in to dgtgag? sorry if you haven't heard it yet, its on the minneapolis
>boot...i personally love it, but wondering what others think. for once, i
>actually care (hahaha, kidding...i'm.......kidding...)

dgtgag has always been one of my favorites of the new tunes, but the bridge
really adds to the emotion of the song. when i first heard it the night of
the concert it gave me the chills. but unfortunately i'm able to relate a
little too closely to this one too. they seem to be good at doing that. :)

deb

hi y'all...jonny just brought up a new thread...which ig part do you
sing to...that's a tough one!!!
vocally, i stick with amy's parts, but emily's are so much fun!!
and when i'm playing my guitar (or what passes for playing) i stick to amy's
parts almost exclusively...

jen

"i don't wanna wait for heaven
i can find what i need right here on earth this time
there's too many people only waiting for heaven
if you can't find it here, you won't feel it there anyway"
-amy ray

hey, for a girl who isn't on the list i've been posting a lot
lately......

okay, i just ordered "not a pretty girl" from rbr and they enclosed a
oops, that should be "an" but i can't get back up to edit it...anyway,
they enclosed an order form and there was a note written on it, with a
picture drawn on it. there was no name on the message, and i am assuming
that ani does not do her own stuffing/mailing, so does anyone know who
would've written me a nice note???? just wondering......thanx!

amy k

andi said:

>so i'm wondering...i've been flamed, i've started a thread, & you all know
>me...so, does this mean that i'm no longer a newbie? is this the end of
>newbiedom or newbieness or whatever the state of being a newbie is called?
>and what do i get for it? a special prize? :)

newbieness is definitely a state of mind.......the prize should be
evident to you once your mind accepts the fact that you are no longer a
newbie......

mark

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now, i'm definitely no singer (anyone who's ever heard me sing, or at
least desperately try to, can attest to this, my so called friends have
threatened to kick me out of the car if i continued to sing to, well,
anything =), but for some reason, i always try to sing em's parts, i don't
know why, it's just, i guess, natural instinct (maybe it's cause i'm an em
person).  but, after i get a hollerin from my mom for being so incredibly
flat and just plain god-awful sounding (i think i inherited her voice, but
you didn't hear that from me!), i stick with amy's parts.  they're just
much much more in my range, but i guess that you always strive for what
you can't have.  but, bad voice or no good voice, i'm still there, singing
along.  woo-hoo!

veronica

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        i said it's 3 am, and it's good company
        hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me remember who i am

-- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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excerpts from internet.music.indigo-girls: 4-nov-96 list shirt/possible
thread by jonny wu@warwick.net
> i know everyone here loves to sing along with the girls. but what i
> was wondering was, who's part do you sing when you sing along?

actually, i kind of sing both parts...i'll start singing emily and then
in mid-line rip (quite badly) into amy when she comes in with the
harmony...or vice-versa, of course. i realize that this probably seems
quite silly if anyone ever hears me, but hey...can't help what i
sing...and they harmonize so well already.

mike

new trivia submitted by my bf... (& this one's not a quote!)

in tangled up in blue, who was the italian poet from the 13th century and
what was the book?

andi

here's a thread. what order do you think the new songs will be in on
the next album? well,i think if they continue with the amy trend they will
start with dgtgag and end with chiapas bound. if they go with emily
(which i think they will) they will start with "get out the map" and
end with "winthrop". what do you all think?
ben

that's an easy one! the author is dante and the book is "the divine comedy".
ben

on tue, 5 nov 1996, andi wrote:

> new trivia submitted by my bf... (& this one's not a quote!)
>
> in tangled up in blue, who was the italian poet from the 13th century and
> what was the book?
>
> andi
>
>
>
>           -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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>
>                      "and it's alright if i feel afraid
>                      my plans in pieces my plans mislaid
>                          it's the will of the way...
>                            and it's alright."-es
>          _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
>
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i don't want andi to have all the fun, so here's my question:

what label was "crazy game" released on and what's the meaning behind the name?
(and no dwayne, you're not allowed to play)

deb

i'd just like to state that i receive absolutely no power from the
bible.  i take an interpretation from there because the bible shows a
patriarchy.  so much art comes from this book, but where do i see myself in
it? where do i see any respect for women in it that doesn't totally
reduce them to the objects that society sees us as.  i'm sorry to bring
such views into this chat, but it is vital that i see myself as
something more than an object in such an oppressive society.  milk and
honey and the bible are the basis of a male tradition.  it's not to say
that we can't get anything from this tradition, but women have to
realize that their's is not as lengthy and is different.  this is what
virginia woolf brings across quite plainly in " a room of one's own".
-adrienne

i love to sing along with lifeblood, never stop, ghost, joking, nashville,
keeper of my heart, fallin' star, and fugitive. usually, though, i'm
singing along with everything, and usually with amy's parts. i tend to go
through all my ig cds when working on those long lab reports i'm always
complaining about.

mary :)

p.s. i wish this semester were over. i wish the gre were over (dec. 14).
i wish the mcat were over (april 20). my brain is fried.

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

e-mail addresses:
physicsnerd@geocities.com
ugkushma@ecuvm1.cis.ecu.edu
ugkushma@ecuvax.cis.ecu.edu
mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net

"i said, don't, don't give that girl a gun..."--amy ray
*******************************************************

did i miss something here? i didn't know about the boots for santa fe and
minneapolis (unless the latter is hte). could someone please fill me in on
this?

in the dark,
mary

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

e-mail addresses:
physicsnerd@geocities.com
ugkushma@ecuvm1.cis.ecu.edu
ugkushma@ecuvax.cis.ecu.edu
mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net

"i said, don't, don't give that girl a gun..."--amy ray
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hmmm, i didn't realize that. i always thought it was petrarch, but i guess
he's actually the 14th century. so much for my vast knowledge of
literature!

:)amy

on mon, 4 nov 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> that's an easy one! the author is dante and the book is "the divine comedy".
> ben
>
> on tue, 5 nov 1996, andi wrote:
>
> > new trivia submitted by my bf... (& this one's not a quote!)
> >
> > in tangled up in blue, who was the italian poet from the 13th century and
> > what was the book?
> >
> > andi
> >
> >
> >
> >           -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
> >                                 andrea lipman
> >                        e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
> >                homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman
> >
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> >                      my plans in pieces my plans mislaid
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whose part do i sing when i'm singing along to ig?  amy's.  always.  i
am usually capable of singing emily's part if she is singing lead, but
her harmony parts are often too high for me.  if i'm playing guitar, and
i want to do an emily song, i usually lower it a key or two.  also, i
had a weird ig dream last night.  (actually all my dreams are weird...)
i was at my grandma's house and a & e showed up and played a set in my
grandma's bedroom!  i don't remember what they played, but i remember
being bummed out when they left (of course).  then i was sitting on the
couch with my brother watching a cartoon, and a & e showed up on the
cartoon!  they were dancing around (a la the han video) and doing a song
i had never heard before.  weird.   (but i'm not complaining !;)
carrie
"every night these silhouettes appear above my head
little angels of the silences that climb into my bed"
~adam f. duritz

me too me too me too. i have very small hands. i heard somewhere that e's
hands are small, too. i am inspired to keep trying.

why don't we use the "you might be an obsessed indigo girls fan" thread
and make a shirt with the top ten on it?
just a thought. i have so much else to say that it's not worth typing it
all. well, i can tell you one thing. even the dorm director in my dorm
said, "they're lesbians!" when i said indigo girls were my favorite
group. i was in shock, i mean i would expect that from freshmen girls,
but the dorm director? i thought she would be more mature. anyways, i
replied, "yes, i'm fully aware of that, but i still like their music."
now, i wish i would have said something like, "that jest makes 'em that
much better!" i would probably be suspended, though.

amber

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thank you for making my initiation such a warm one. i never knew there
were so many nice people, it's not every day one signs up on a new list
and gets a stack of mail from like minded ig-ers!

i'll reply to each and every one of you individually over the next few
days. in the meantime, i'll just watch and learn for the first week or so.
then i'll open my notoriously big mouth :d

cheerio!
your local pagan/astrologer/naughty person/crotchwatcher/indigo girlie
julie
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"i'm not *gay*! i"m a drug addict - big difference!"  grace under fire

man, does amber's dorm director's comment bring back memories!  when i
first became an ig fan, i didn't know a thing about them.  seriously, i
didn't know what their sexual orientation was, and i didn't particularly
care.  but whenever i would mention that i was an ig fan to someone they
would always ask me if they were lesbians.  i would say that i didn't
know, and i'd try to direct their attention to the music, but they just
couldn't get past it.  it was so frustrating and disappointing that i
stopped trying to talk to people about ig for a quite a while.  (a
cowardly act, i know, but no one i tried to introduce ig to would give
them a chance.)  eventually, i learned that they were indeed lesbians.
i also learned not to give up so easily, and i'm proud to say i managed
to convert one person a few years ago... (unfortunately for me, my
husband is not that one person ;)  when i think of all the people who
have missed out on the wonderful experience of ig just because they
can't (or refuse to) get past their sexuality.  it's such a shame.
sorry to have rambled, but grateful to have found the list...
carrie
"moonlight creeping around the corners of our lawn
when we see the early signs that daylight's fading
we leave just before it's gone"
~adam f. duritz

in regards to amber's email:

you know, something like this would never happen:
        "hey, isn't that a great song by garth brooks?"
        "wait, isn't he heterosexual???"
it is pathetic that it happens the other way around all the time.  it is
dissappointing when people miss the universality of the concepts in amy and
emily's songs.  they have rung true in my life (i'm not gay) every single
day for years!
human emotion is human emotion, and ig has so much to give and share! (see
the watershed video when amy is talking about "joking"... she says it much
better than i can)
incidentally, this made me remember back to when i lived in the dorm, and
it was gay awareness week, and there was a sign posted next to the
elevator, with a list of famous people who were gay, and ig made the list.
it was cool to see their names hanging on the wall of my shithole dorm.

-kristen
_________________________________________________________________"in the
beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind,
there are few."
"the truth is always near at hand, within your reach." -suzuki

ok, this is like the rest of my life, late, how appropriate. sorry,
betsy!!

november 1
bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com (mediancat)
happy 33rd, betsy!
but the question drowns in its futility
and even i have got to laugh at me
no-one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride
(the wood song)

november 4
imat39@docusystems.durham.net (tami waters)
happy 29th, tami!
well the world seems spent, and that ol' congress
have no good idea who the masses are
well i'm one of them, and i'm among friends
(let it be me)

(tami is the first victim of receiving whatever quote is running through
the birthday goddess's head at the moment ;) )

have a wonderful year!

i decided today is the day for my first post to the list. i just got home
from bombing a statistics test, and found my list shirt waiting
on me in the mailbox. it's so awesome!!

thanks deb!!!!!

first ig song:  kid fears - in 1989, my roommate was a big rem
    freak  and he bought ig the day it came out because michael stipe
   sang on kid fears.  i fell in love with ig, prince of darkness in
   particular, and the rest is history.

song to play on guitar - well, my sister stole my guitar, so i've
decided to go buy a new one since this thread started. i'll try for
joking first, but i've noted that welcome me is fairly easy to learn.....

nigc: has anyone heard mcc's latest? it's great!

question - anyone in gainesville, fl?

everyone remember to vote tomorrow!!!!!!

-rich
-rich benson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
-m. etheridge
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ok, i know y'all are going to think this is such an aweful experience.
especially if you had to do it several times this semester.  my best friend
is the president of the college democrats here @umaine.  there has been a
fury of activity this entire fall, going to, planning and organizing all
types of rallies.
   friday night i had a class and al gore came to the state (i have seen in
twice btw, once in atlanta, does that count as igc???) it was a real small
swing and we figured it would be the last major event before the election, i
mean we saw the president in portland early last month (with a bit of a
ticket mixup so we did not get close as we should have, but we actually had
seats rather than standing)  mrs clinton came to my campus last week, and i
did some security work and i shook her hand and i think i will be getting a
thank you letter. i had seen her before too.
    saturday night, my friends went to a movie, when we swung by his
apartment, there was a few3 important messages. we knew from hearing "um
jeremy you will not believe who is coming tomorrow we need you now" that it
was the president.
     five thousand people saw the president way past midnight this morning
in bangor me. my friend jeremy, matt and myself, went full overboard on trying to get
students to go -- we filled 8 buses..passed out 3000 tickets, i wrote a
piece on the "decline to sign" campaign for the school paper (after not
getting the cliton story, but the editor did it and he is really cool so no
big deal)
   we basically busted our butts for 24 hours, went to finally see the
event, and even though we had "good tickets" we did not expect to have the
best seating, we were late.  jeremy was immediately recognized by the head
of the maine democratic party, and she remembered my friend matt and me. a
sticker was adorned on my sweater, vip access, this was so cool that i was
actually in front of the mayor of bangor. i think the surprise was that we
did not expect it, we did not need to really "work" at the rally. we had
awesome seats and the feeling of excitement was unreal.
   finally i was joking, wouldn't it be cool to get his autograph or a
picture to put of him shaking my hand for my web page. it was sorta
lighthearted and silly, but i knew i was going to shake his hand.
it was ummm...incredible. i passed him my ticket with a pen in jest, then
they said keep the pen. he shook my hand with such firmness. eye contact was
made. it will be one of the things i will tell my kids about.
a aide came back and i ran to meet my friends, because they were out earier
than me. i told them when we arrived at campus. my friend jeremy was
estatic, we had a male bonding ritual over coffee at well, 7-11 or they call
them christy's now, but essentually 7-11.
   i know tonight i need to do a literature drop and write a journal and
maybe get some sleep. i will be glad when the election will be over, so i
can have some resemeblence of life again....

vote tomorrow!!!!
mike r.
-= a mere mortal who is blessed with being at the right place at the right
time and knowing the right people, he thinks=-

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good to see the scorpios out and proud. we need more of them! i'm rather
fond of the rising eagle, and am constantly bumping into these
intelligent, loyal and hilarious creatures. and not just at the zoo! :)

well i recently discovered a whole different kind of astrology and since
emily is a native american (right?), i thought i might share it with you:
(at least this way i can make it a ig topic hoho)

it's a longish post so feel free to skip. i found a fantastic book about
native american astrology and philosophy. i've had much mail from various
wolves and otters on other lists begging for more :)

earth medicine: revealing hidden teachings of the native american medicine
wheel, kenneth meadows. revised july 1996: element books (dorset, uk),
(rockport, ma, usa) and element books ltd for jacaranda wiley in brisbane,
aust. meadows has apparently lived and studied with native american
shamans and this book is the basis of his learnings.

i have paraphrased this to capture a 'snapshot' of the signs.

21st mar-19th apr: falcon
falcon people rise to great heights, and like to spread their wings. their
prey is a new idea/experience/place to visit/past-time. they are fearless
in going after what they want. good starters but not stayers.

20th apr-20th may: beaver
always busying themselves with making alterations and home improvements,
their overall purpose is security and contentment. adaptable and creative,
they are patient and perservering.

21st may-20th jun: deer
sensitive, alert and fast-moving, they are intuitive towards others'
feelings. their thoughts race very quickly, they appreciate beauty and
frequently leap from one idea to another.

21st jun-21st jul: woodpecker
reluctant to let their offspring go, they make a comfortable nest for
themselves and require a comfortable home and close relationships. they
need a channel for their energies and devotion.

22nd jul-21st aug: salmon
blessed with longevity and graceful aging, they are both optimistic and
vain. often sought out by others for their enjoyment, salmon people may
appear charming or fickle on the exterior but are prickly or serious on
the inside - or the reverse. they must learn to master their emotions.

22nd aug-21st sep: brown bear (hello to all my feared beastie friends!)
self-reliant, constructive and masters at fixing things, whether in
mechanical or human r/ships. a imaginative dreamer that can be confused
for a liar. (oops!)

22nd sep-22nd oct: crow
preferring the company of others, they work better in groups than alone.
their sense of loyalty is very strong and they will readily defend their
group from attack. slow but certain decision makers.

23rd oct-22nd nov: snake
a regenerative creature possessing special powers, they are inclined to
make dramatic changes in their lives. tolerant and slow to anger. generous
souls with their money and time, beware of excessive self-indulgement.
(hm, a snake! i guess they get to wrap themselves around other people's
naughty bits!)

3rd nov-21st dec: owl
proud, flamboyant with enquiring minds, they can be enticed into lengthy
discussions and arguments. can avoid responsibilities. pioneers, explorers
and visionaries, they like to do things in a big way!

22nd dec-19th jan: goose
perfectionists who bubble over with enthusiasm, they are gifted teachers
of children and people with disabilities. they become frustrated when
their goals take time to materialise.

20th jan-18th feb: otter (arf! arf!)
a strong sense of family and friendship embodies this people who are
friendly, playful, bold and eager to service others. excellent organisers,
they feel ill at ease around chaos and unclean environments.

18th feb-20th mar: wolf (where's that donut?)
compassionate, generous and artistic, wolves are great leaning posts for
others and are psychic sponges which need 'cleansing' occasionally (ie.
negativity). never betray the wolf's confidence or you will lose their
trust.

------
i apologise for this longish post, especially since it may not hold
interest for everyone. but if you'd like to take part in a survey, or get
a few more detailed pars from the book, let me know won't you?

cheerio!
your local pagan/astrologer/naughty person/crotchwatcher/warrior woman
julie
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   let nobody fool you, into giving it up too soon..." " james taylor

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              but i feel like this needs to be said - nigc
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please ignore that last message, it appears to have been re-sent by the
list server.

mat

>what label was "crazy game" released on and what's the meaning behind the name?
>(and no dwayne, you're not allowed to play)

i am not dwayne. i am going to play. :)

it was released on jellis records. the name comes from their high school
teacher they both had a crush on, mr. j. ellis.

yen m tang             "i used to be naive, waiting like some little lamb
                        willing to believe the story of the big strong man."
                        -susan werner

i love the idea for a new shirt, with thte top ten "you know you're obsessed
with ig when..." it's a splendid idea, whoever came up with it.

my g/f and i fight over who's going to sing amy's parts...
yes, it can get pretty ugly sometimes!

amy c

hi everyone,

in case this hasn't been mentioned on the list yet & there are folks who
haven't seen it, check out joan baez's web site at:

http://baez.woz.org

and follow the link to the alcatraz show. you'll be treated to some neat
photographs of amy, emily, joan, and dar. oh, and as a bonus, gabe harris, of
new orleans jazz fest "he's so f**ing beautiful!" fame, is also in one of the
pictures with them.

anna

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date:         tue, 5 nov 1996 08:44:24 -0500
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i also love the idea that the latest thread gets turned into shirts.
unfortunately...i have no creative talent...

cardigan

###############################################################################

"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick

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i sing whichever one strikes my fancy at the moment -- but the thing i
enjoy most is adding third-part harmony! mostly i squeak out notes above
the other two parts; i have trouble hearing what to do below amy's part,
and i couldn't sing that low anyway! my friend paul (hi, paul!) often does
a tenor part below them, which most of the time ends up being an octave
below what i'm doing above the two existing ones.

ah, just another of the applications of music theory. i am such a
geek. ;-)

deanna

ps:  does anyone know what the lowest notes amy sings are?  i think she
manages to touch a b (the one next to the c that's an octave below middle
c on the piano) in "fugitive" on the word "should" at the very end, but i
don't know if there are any lower or similar ones on the jcs recording.
music theory geeks, go to it!  it'd also be fun to see the highest noe
she sings, and the highest/lowest notes emily sings; i think emily's
lowest ones are in "hand me downs" on the "i've become the sinner now"
section -- she really sounds like she's scraping the bottom of her range
on that one.  music theory geeks, go to it!  ;-)

kids!!
remember..get out there and vote..if you don't,,then for the next 4
years you must keep your mouth shut if you don't like whats going on in
this country..you can only voice your two cents then if you go out
and voice your two cents worth now!!!
thanks

--- you wrote:
even the dorm director in my dorm
said, "they're lesbians!" when i said indigo girls were my favorite
group. i was in shock, i mean i would expect that from freshmen girls,
but the dorm director? i thought she would be more mature. anyways, i
replied, "yes, i'm fully aware of that, but i still like their music."
now, i wish i would have said something like, "that jest makes 'em that
much better!" i would probably be suspended, though.
--- end of quoted material ---
as a former "dorm director", i am appalled at this. reisdence hall directors
are supposed to work to create a comfortable, supportive environment for
everyone, and this moron is clearly not doing that. you would not be
"suspended" for having a supportive opinion of lesbians, amber, trust me.
unless you are in a convent, that is.
i hope you'll have a chat with your dorm director about this....he/she needs to
know how her/his comments could make someone who is lesbian feel.

not the pc police, just aware of how important it is to support gay college
students,

susan

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on tue, 5 nov 1996, yen m tang wrote:

> >what label was "crazy game" released on and what's the meaning behind the name?
> >(and no dwayne, you're not allowed to play)
>
> i am not dwayne. i am going to play. :)
>
> it was released on jellis records. the name comes from their high school
> teacher they both had a crush on, mr. j. ellis.
>

mister!??!?!??!?!?! what's going on here?..... (giggle)
-mandy

> yen m tang             "i used to be naive, waiting like some little lamb
>                         willing to believe the story of the big strong man."
>                         -susan werner
>
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>>what label was "crazy game" released on and what's the meaning behind the
>>name?
>>(and no dwayne, you're not allowed to play)
>
>i am not dwayne. i am going to play. :)
>
>it was released on jellis records. the name comes from their high school
>teacher they both had a crush on, mr. j. ellis.

very good yen! i thought for sure it would take a little while longer for
someone to get that one.

deb

>it was released on jellis records. the name comes from their high school
>teacher they both had a crush on, mr. j. ellis.

oops, forgot this part. in rop tour book it's mentioned that his name is
ellis loyd and that his english class was the site of their first public
performance together. i believe his real name is j. ellis loyd.

deb

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yes!yes! please go out and vote today...many of my friends aren't voting
today because they feel the outcome has already been decided. but as all
michiganders can tell you, there are some very important state proposals
on the ballot...and i am sure there are in every other state also!!!

show your pride in who you are...vote!!!

cardigan

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"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick

##############################################################################

since andi started the trivia thread, i decided to go back and re-read all
my liner notes.  as i was reading, i noticed a&e thank carmella tafoya on
rop and so.  i know her!!  in 1992, i was the administration co-chair for
"from all walks of life," the aids walk atlanta before it actually became
"aids walk atlanta," and carmella was the sponsorships co-chair.  then i had
to go and move (sob,sob).

anybody know the relationship there? does she do work for them or is she a
friend, or what? anyway, i was just curious.....i'm sure my revelation will
alter the course of all your lives profoundly.

-rich benson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
-m. etheridge
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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> hi y'all...jonny just brought up a new thread...which ig part do you
> sing to...that's a tough one!!!

emily's parts, definitely. not only cause i'm an emily person, but i'm a
first soprano! :) i can hardly hit any of amy's notes. i envy her for
having that low, husky, growling kind of a voice. i've always wanted to
sound like that *laugh* unfortunately (fortunate ones?) i'm doomed to be
one of those people who can't sing lower than middle c! ah well, i'll
just continue to enjoy listening to her :)

jen

at 12:16 am 11/5/96 -0800, carrie wrote:
>man, does amber's dorm director's comment bring back memories!  when i
>first became an ig fan, i didn't know a thing about them.  seriously, i
>didn't know what their sexual orientation was, and i didn't particularly
>care.  but whenever i would mention that i was an ig fan to someone they
>would always ask me if they were lesbians.
i go through this same thing with my family + friends ( arrrgggghhh!!!! )
my closest friend, up to about seven months ago, decided that she was going
to "set me str8" about "the music i was choosing to listen to these days"...
see, she had known me as a teenager + knew i was gay. but then like everyone
else in my congregation, and family, she fell into the "well, now you're
cured" mentality ( read: denial ). she thought this because i did what was
expected of me and i married a very nice guy at 18 ( i'm 34 now... a long
time to live this lie, i know... but i'm a coward, and have kids, and...
well... that's a whole other story... ) ( guess i've just "officially come
out" on this list, now haven't i? ):-)
anyway, she was "alarmed" she said, by the amount of indigo girls cd's i
owned, and the fact that i belonged to this list. "it was the same about kd
lang, and melissa etheridge" she said... "it seems like you find out that an
artist is gay and you go out of your way to get all her music and learn as
much about her as you can, don't you think that's dangerous?"
dangerous???!!!! excuse me???? i asked her if she didn't think it was
dangerous to learn everything she could about any of those heterosexuals
artists she's so crazy about? she might actually relate to them and their
messages, and reaffirm that there are artists etc out there who function as
positive role models for heterosexuals... that she is indeed herself and
that her heterosexuality is indeed part of her and she might actually feel
like she belonged somewhere and could be at peace with herself...
yikes...dangerous!!!!
i wondered what on earth, in her mind, the indigo girl's sexuality had to do
with the quality of the music they produce. i relate to them + their lyrics
often because i know that they are gay, but good lord... i could put a "gay"
slant on the lyrics of any ol' heterosexual song i wanted to, if'n the
lyrics touched me + i related to them ( my experience growing up in a small
town... hey, there just weren't any "gay" artists that i knew of, so the
str8 ones hadda do )... so then, can not a "str8" person listen to a gay
person's music, put aside the fact that the artist is ( agggh!!! ) gay, +
slant it towards her/his own heterosexual experience of life??? i dunno...
ummm...
well, anyways... just wanted to say that my friend is now not that trusted
by me... but hey... i've made some really good + supportive friends through
this list ( both str8 + gay ) who really don't care about "what people do in
bed", but rather ... they care about good music. and that's what the indigo
girls produce... good ( read: great ) music. nice to know ya's:-)
peace y'all... kim ( the goddess with the tarnished halo )
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"i'm running with scissors!!!!!!!"
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hi ya'll,

personally i have to stick with amy.  i can not even come close to the emily
parts, my voice is too low for emily's.  eventhough i can screach the notes
out.  as for the t-shirt idea.  i thinks it's great.

to address the the college dorm issue, i have to admit that i was afraid to
tell people who my favorite group was (i now hang my head in shame).  i then
had the nerve to tell someone and i got a great reaction.  there are so many
peole on my floor that listen to the girls.  i guess that i'm just lucky.

stacey

"you can not teach a man anything; you can only help him find it
within himself" - galileo

at 07:57 pm 11/5/96 +1000, julie wrote a really most interesting post in
which i learned ( as a november 23rd broad ) that, according to north
american native astrology kinda stuff, i'm an owl... hmmm. then i got to
wondering, what are amy + emily???? anyone know??/ does the "sign" suit
them??? ( mine sure sounded like me... ) i forget the exact dates of their
birthdays ( number dyslexic, me... )... anyone?
peace... kim ( who makes a promise now, to not be post happy anymore this
week:-) )
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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"i'm running with scissors!!!!!!!"
---------------justkim---------------
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please please please read this..don't not vote cause you don't like dole
or clinton..look at the big picture...

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remember..it doesn't mean squat who is president..its the
congress who decides..if you don't vote then you are automatically
re-electing whomever is running for congress in this election..you can be
a stout democrat but if you don't vote today and a republican is running
in your district ,,well then kids..you just voted republican..and vice
versa...so you have to vote...fill in amy ray or emily for president but
you have to look at the big picture!!!!!!its the congress we need to
worry about!!!!!

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its me again.......in telling julie congrats a mistype led me to this
symbol ";d" and i decided i liked that one as well.........so consider
it my own entry into the pot............

don watts

viva la vie bohme!!

hey peeps!
in the new posting from one of the newbies (like myself) "julie jansen"
she had this in her message " :d " well, i'd like to cast my vote for
this symbol for the joking sybbol, its cherry and in my opinion bright
and smiley.............just putting my own .02 in for the record.

don watts

viva la vie boheme!!

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>
> >it was released on jellis records. the name comes from their high school
> >teacher they both had a crush on, mr. j. ellis.
>
> oops, forgot this part. in rop tour book it's mentioned that his name is
> ellis loyd and that his english class was the site of their first public
> performance together. i believe his real name is j. ellis loyd.

then it is the earliest known recording of both of them -- it exists, btw i
have a copy, it is like 30 mins, and the copy i had was from amy ap english
class study hall, recorded when emily came back from tulane for
thanksgiving, i think i hear a tape tree just waiting to be seeded, and i am
not the only person with a copy of this, but it is cool...

>
> deb

>
mike r.
*who finally heard a better copy of hampton beach last night, and wants to
trade for lots more '96 stuff once he gets a life.*

anybody have the chords and words to chiapas bound?
i would love to learn how to play it.

thanks.
alycia

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i am a promise you made to yourself when you were a
little girl. and i am coming true.

- rebecca lobo

> hi y'all...jonny just brought up a new thread...which ig part do you
> sing to...that's a tough one!!!
>

me.... achem...
amy's part... always amy's part... despite being an emily kinda gal:-)
peace... kim ( self appointed goddess of "all people who make fools of
themselves whilst driving alone, with the windows rolled up, in heavy
traffic, singing along ( with a great deal of emotion + expression ) to
their favorite ig tunes... ):-)
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>  on the set list of the norfolk show, this song was called "in its time". i
>  really, really like the lyrics, especially the line "a lesson learned, a
>  loving god and things in their own time." it's lines like those that make
>  me go, "that woman is living my life!" i mean so far em has written ghost
>  and mystery for me, and now this song.  i'm so glad we have such a bond :)

this new song has been one of my very favorites since i heard it in norfolk
(the first time they played it in front of a crowd!). i really hope it is
going to be
on map...=) if anyone wants the norfolk boot, btw, i have a copy...

> dgtgag has always been one of my favorites of the new tunes, but the
> bridge really adds to the emotion of the song. when i first heard it the
night of
> the concert it gave me the chills.

could someone please, pleeeeease post the bridge to dgtgag for the
unfortunate ones (like me) who don't have the latest version of the song? =)
thank you! have an indigo day, and don't forget to vooooote...

peace, love, and leftover halloween candy,
ponygirl

yeah, happy election day!  :)
my request - okay, y'all, having run up against my first striking instance of
institutionalized homophobia, i need help.  i need to find some really good
gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good suggestions
for inclusion in a high school lit class.  intelligent students, mostly
(myself excepted, of course, but i'm indigo :) but high school.  the approval
issue is awful, and i am now incredibly angry at the powers that be in my
school...but any suggestions y'all can give would be very very appreciated!
and if anybody has any experience or ideas about anything i can do to make my
school more open...it certainly needs it :)
thanks, y'all :)   (i love saying that!)
and everybody wish sarah (the sanawike sarah :) a happy happy birthday!!!  :)
love katy

indigo white independent unopened black vinyl (2) ep
available to anyone interested. also other available misc.
items. rare. accepting offers. thanks yikes! antiques

**** i sent this at 11:00am est and i usually get a copy of my own mail but
i didn't get this....did this make the list this morning? if not, here it
is again......******

>being a libra (the balance/harmony sign) and left-handed (creative), i
>always sing the harmony no matter who the artist, or if it's a low or high
>part.  i don't have any formal musical training (unless you count the
>choir and music class in grammar school - the instructors used to make me
>sing harmony), but i seem to have a pretty good ear for it. if there is no
>harmony and if it's appropriate, i will hear one anyway.
>
>funny harmony story (not funny "haha," funny "ironic"):  i "heard" in my
>head a harmony part to melissa etheridges "you can sleep while i drive."
>i used to sing it in the car while driving with friends, and they all
>liked it.  then i saw her vh1 special "duets" and go figure, she sings the
>song with jewel, and jewel is singing the exact harmony part that i had
>been singing for months! (my friends all laughed when i got upset 'cuz
>jewel stole my thunder - at least i have witnesses that i sang it before
>jewel did!)
>
>like deanna light <77light@cua.edu>, i sometimes put in a third harmony
>part if it sounds appropriate - if it doesn't, forcing one can ruin the
>song.  but mostly, i sing along with the existing harmony (in most ig
>songs, amy's part, but i will take the emily high harmony if amy is
>singing the lead melody).  my favorite thing is to sing at the beginning
>of a song where the harmony will be later in the song, but is not yet
>there.  that way, you can hear what you really sound like singing with the
>lead singer.  same thing with a third harmony part - you can hear
>yourself, and not you together with another singer that may cover up what
>you really sound like.
>
>so here's a more detailed question regarding singing parts:  what is your
>favorite ig song to harmonize to?  which song do you sound the best at?
>do you sound good enough so that if you were in the audience and emily or
>amy pointed to you to come up on the stage and take a part, which song
>would you choose, and which part would you sing?
>
>i'll start:  hmmmmm...this is a toughie.....ok, for slow songs, i'd pick
>amy's part in either "ghost" or "power of two" (simple enough so that in
>my totally nervous and adrenalin-pumped state of mind up on stage with
>them, i could still sing them well without really thinking about it).  for
>fast songs, i'd pick "hammer and nail" or "joking" and would pick amy's
>part - if they insisted, i could sing emily's part on han, but i'd have to
>concentrate more so that i didn't naturally drop to the harmony part.
>
>ok, i'll shut up now.  wow.  i think this is my longest post to the list
>yet.  sorry if i bored people, but harmony is very important to me.  is
>that pathetic or what?
>
>have a great and harmonious day!

joni :>}

on tue, 5 nov 1996 16:32:36 -0400, joni writes:

>**** i sent this at 11:00am est and i usually get a copy of my own mail but
>i didn't get this....did this make the list this morning? if not, here it
>is again......******

no, this is the first i 've seen of it . also, i think you should save
your maxell points for an all ig karaoke (sp?) set-up! this could be cool!

betsy (who can't carry a tune even if amy was chasing me with a pointed stick!)

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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speaking of singing parts...
i tend to sing amy's but often jump all over the place. some times on
road trips i'll listen to one side of a tape a tape (and sing one part),
then listen to the other and sing the other. then, the next tape i put
in i'll discipline myself only to sing a third part - or at least try...

has anyone aver done this?:
if anyone wanted a ride in my car, i would make them promise to try to
sing with me. especially on hand me downs...you know: i've become the
beggar now, you've become the saint somehow..... :)

vote...vote...vote...

amy h

in a message dated 96-11-06 13:04:48 est, you write:

<< and everybody wish sarah (the sanawike sarah :) a happy happy birthday!!!
:)
love katy
>>
hey...happy b-day and lots 'o mm for you :) :)

jude :\

hey y'all!!!

just thought i'd wish you all a happy and safe bonfire night tonite!!!
(well... all you brits out there at least ...or is it really just me??)

juliet (<---waving her indigo sparkler happily at y'all)

...ooohh kira .. best to keep the llamas locked indoors on a night like
tonite!!! :)

j.
<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>

congratulations to ben (verdi@imap2.asu.edu) for correctly answering my
trivia question! yes, the book was dante's "the divine comedy."

in the future, i think responses to the trivia questions should be sent to
the person who posted the question through private e-mail, & then that
person can post the winnners. i only say this b/c people on the digest
(like me!) might get the question & the answer in one digest, & we should
be allowed to play too!

so here's the next question...
which two lines from two emily songs did amy say that she didn't want to
sing when she first heard them?

(i hope that question made some sense...it sounds a little confusing, but
it's really not.)

andi

>
> >being a libra (the balance/harmony sign) and left-handed (creative), i
> >always sing the harmony no matter who the artist, or if it's a low or high
> >part. i don't have any formal musical training (unless you count the
> >choir and music class in grammar school - the instructors used to make me
> >sing harmony), but i seem to have a pretty good ear for it. if there is no
> >harmony and if it's appropriate, i will hear one anyway.

i, too am a libra (though not left-handed--but i am lebanese ;] ) and i
love to work out the harmony parts. funny that joni should post this
because just yesterday i was making up my own harmony to keeper of my
heart--the fun thing about that is that my harmony is below amy's melody,
rather than above, as emily's harmonies are. i don't have it perfected
yet, it needs a lot of work, but it's fun....

> >  my favorite thing is to sing at the beginning
> >of a song where the harmony will be later in the song, but is not yet
> >there.  that way, you can hear what you really sound like singing with the
> >lead singer.  same thing with a third harmony part - you can hear
> >yourself, and not you together with another singer that may cover up what
> >you really sound like.

yeah, i do this during the first verse & chorus of ghost especially,
because there's so much that happens in that song before the harmony
comes in, i always want it to start sooner, so i just take the initiative!
;]

> >so here's a more detailed question regarding singing parts: what is your
> >favorite ig song to harmonize to? which song do you sound the best at?
> >do you sound good enough so that if you were in the audience and emily or
> >amy pointed to you to come up on the stage and take a part, which song
> >would you choose, and which part would you sing?

not to be cliche, but i've got ctf down pat (okay, so does the rest of
the world), ghost is also one of my favorites (i don't even think i know
the melody in some places) and i love to sing the melody in joking
because my sister does a really good emily.

thanks for a cool thread imho, joni!

=)
the lone coyote (who is soon to be creating a [hopefully] cool sig
because some kind soul at school helped her learn how...)

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>
> has anyone aver done this?:
> if anyone wanted a ride in my car, i would make them promise to try to
> sing with me. especially on hand me downs...you know: i've become the
> beggar now, you've become the saint somehow..... :)

i'll ride in your car, amy--everyone who gets in my car thinks i'm nuts
for singing so dang loud....i promise to sing along with you!!!!

(take me for a ride in your car, car, take me for a ride in your car,
car....)

the lone coyote
=)

being a libra (the balance/harmony sign) and left-handed (creative), i
always sing the harmony no matter who the artist, or if it's a low or high
part. i don't have any formal musical training (unless you count the choir
and music class in grammar school - the instructors used to make me sing
harmony), but i seem to have a pretty good ear for it. if there is no
harmony and if it's appropriate, i will hear one anyway.

funny harmony story (not funny "haha," funny "ironic"):  i "heard" in my
head a harmony part to melissa etheridges "you can sleep while i drive."  i
used to sing it in the car while driving with friends, and they all liked
it.  then i saw her vh1 special "duets" and go figure, she sings the song
with jewel, and jewel is singing the exact harmony part that i had been
singing for months! (my friends all laughed when i got upset 'cuz jewel
stole my thunder - at least i have witnesses that i sang it before jewel
did!)

like deanna light <77light@cua.edu>, i sometimes put in a third harmony
part if it sounds appropriate - if it doesn't, forcing one can ruin the
song.  but mostly, i sing along with the existing harmony (in most ig
songs, amy's part, but i will take the emily high harmony if amy is singing
the lead melody).  my favorite thing is to sing at the beginning of a song
where the harmony will be later in the song, but is not yet there.  that
way, you can hear what you really sound like singing with the lead singer.
same thing with a third harmony part - you can hear yourself, and not you
together with another singer that may cover up what you really sound like.

so here's a more detailed question regarding singing parts: what is your
favorite ig song to harmonize to? which song do you sound the best at? do
you sound good enough so that if you were in the audience and emily or amy
pointed to you to come up on the stage and take a part, which song would
you choose, and which part would you sing?

i'll start: hmmmmm...this is a toughie.....ok, for slow songs, i'd pick
amy's part in either "ghost" or "power of two" (simple enough so that in my
totally nervous and adrenalin-pumped state of mind up on stage with them, i
could still sing them well without really thinking about it). for fast
songs, i'd pick "hammer and nail" or "joking" and would pick amy's part -
if they insisted, i could sing emily's part on han, but i'd have to
concentrate more so that i didn't naturally drop to the harmony part.

ok, i'll shut up now. wow. i think this is my longest post to the list
yet. sorry if i bored people, but harmony is very important to me. is
that pathetic or what?

have a great and harmonious day!

joni :>}

hey everyone,

i've been havin' a rough day and i thought having some ig time might cheer
me up. here are some ig dreams i've had in the past (anywhere from a week
to a year ago). enjoy!

this first one is the oldest. i can't remember the exact order of
everything. in fact, i'm not sure if it's one or two dreams. so i'll
just write them (1 or 2 dreams) as individual dream sequences/segments...

***
i'm at an ig concert (wow, bet ya didn't expect that! :)  the girls are
pretty far away.  they're on top of a hill/mound and it is very muddy.
it's muddy where i am too (kinda reminiscent (sp?) of woodstock 2).  the
girls are slipping around, singing.  i'm slipping around, dancin',
singing.  amy keeps ending up away from her mic b/c she's slipping
around so much.  she's trying to dance around, but it's too slippy.  she
keeps sliding around.  but she seems to be having fun. (ok, that's it for
that one. sorry if it was kinda boring)

***
i walk into an auditorium, not that big, not that small.  the girls are
suppossed to be playing.  there's nowhere to sit but the back row.  i'm
kinda bummed about being far away.  i sit down, and realize i'm sitting
next to emily.  wow!  we start talking, something about the performers on
stage.  i think to myself, where there's emily, there's amy.  i look on
the other side of emily, and there's amy.  cool!!  i think my gf is over
there, too.  a man from the stage announces to the crowd that they are
distributing peanut brittle for everyone in the audience.  ok, whatever, i
think.  some boxes are given to the people in the front, and they are
passed back.  i didn't realized i cared, but i started to worry that there
wouldn't be any peanut brittle left by the time a box reached me.  i think
i start to complain to emily.  the box reaches me and there's not much in
it.  i think i better only take a little.  emily, laughing, tells me to
take a lot. so i do.  then there are all the rest of the boxes coming to
our row and we have tons of peanut brittle.  we're laughing cause it's so
funny.  i think emily even brings out her own personal box, from i don't
know where.  then emily gets up and leaves, b/c she's got to perform soon.
i look over to try to talk to amy.  but she's not there.  she had already
left.  my girlfriend is there.  i sit next to her, kinda depressed.

***
i'm outside with my girlfriend.  we had just come from an outside show.
tons of people are streaming out to go home.  there's a football field
next to where the girls had just played.  i look and see two people
sitting there, next to the track.  it's amy and emily.  i wonder why noone
else is crowding around them.  they have to recognize them, they just saw
them.  i figure they don't know they're there, because  all the people are
on the other side of these bleachers.  so i walk over to amy and sit down
with a cd, i think.  i give it to her to sign.  i say something to her,
but i have not clue now what.  she's says something back.  again, i don't
know what, but it was very casual, friendly.

well, i can't remember my most recent dream.  oh well.  at least in this
last segment i actually get to meet amy.  this has only happened in one
other dream.  usually i always meet emily, and try fruitlessly to talk to
amy.  weird.  i don't feel as obsessed as my dreams make me seem.  well,
thanks everyone. this is certainly a thread that will never die. :)

peace, love, and happiness,

melissa

hey everyone!

this is a very interesting thread i think.  i usually always sing the same
parts for each song.  but i switch back and forth between amy and emily.
i'm an "amy person," so i'd like to sing amy parts all the time.  but,
although i think i have a rather low range for a female, i usually end up
singing the emily parts.  really, i'm in between both of their parts.
emily is often times too high, and amy is sometimes too low.  usually my
girlfriend, who has a slightly lower range than myself, ends up singing
the amy parts, and i emily.  however, i don't restrict myself.  if she's
singing amy, and i want to, i'll go ahead.

(i don't technically know what any of the notes are that i can or cannot
sing. i can read music fine, but i couldn't sing "b" if you told me too.
usually for church music, my gf says i sing the soprano part down an
octave... whatever that translates to??!!)

peace y'all,

melissa

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speaking of watershed, milk, honey, and the bible - what about the next line?

'well i better learn how to swim/cuz the crossing is chilly and wide.'

is this another biblical reference?  i'm not christian and i don't know
much about the bible.  i think i get the intended meaning, but i've
always wondered if i was missing a piece.  this is always a source of
frustration to me - i don't care if i miss something in melville or
dostoyevski, but with ig i want to know everything, understand every
word, every pause, every punctuation mark....

--mani
(think myself into jail.)

just wanted to say that i really like this new idea for a list shirt. will
someone with some talent, please come forward so we can all have one? :)

deb (the other one)

to everyone that thinks i'm a dork and sent the same message (re: singing
parts) twice by mistake:

not my fault!

i first sent the message on 11/5 at 11am.  i never got a copy.  then i
resent it at 4pm (or so).  never got it.  long story short....we
("listserv" powers and myself) think that the server was either jammed full
of messages and slowed down, or otherwise was hung up.  anyway, the
message(s) weren't posted until today, so don't flame me for taking up
bandwidth!    listserv seems to be "experiencing technical
difficulties....please stand by....."

anyway....keep on thinking about your favorite ig song to sing to...special
note to "the lone coyote"......i think we have the same brain...i, too,
must concentrate during "ghost," as the melody is sometimes lost in my
head.  the harmony seems so much more natural to sing...maybe it is a
lebanese thing...;o)  i also start harmonizing at note #1 in "ghost" since
i can't wait for it...  as far as ctf goes, i sort of take that as a given
for all ig fans...that they have that song down pat.  i think it's a rule,
isn't it?  all parts known backwards and forwards....including the whistle
part (which for many is the hardest part, since the range is kinda
wide....)?  if it isn't, well hell, it should be!  i am also soon to have a
cool signature, but for now, i'm still

joni :>}

the line 'learn how to swim, cause the crossing is chilly and wide' just
might be a biblical reference (not as biblical as much of 10,000
wars--that's just jam packed--which often emily's are)  <---i am sure
you knew that already.  anyway, i think it's more referring to life in
general...life is going to be tough, so i'd better learn how to deal
with it...ya know?  but the river jordan--the biblical reference you
were talking about is a possibility, but i'd stick to the general, cause
life is tough, you know???  i think the indigo girls in and of
themselves are helping us all to learn how to swim a little better,
dont' you think???

idgie

i have heard don't give that girl...several times live  (new orleans,
las cruces--including sound check, several times on tapes)  and i can
tell you that it is destined to become one of my favorites.  i have yet
to hear it with it's new lines added (a couple of lines???  or were they
just stream of con. additions???)  whatever the case, it is one hell of
a powerful song.  when my friend and i first heard it we were dumbstruck
and by the time we heard it in las cruces i nearly bawled my head
off--it's one of those songs with which i can readily identify (i think)
now i have noticed that occasionally i really don't care for changes
that amy makes to songs--even if it is as simple as the words boulevard
and avenue (but it changes something) but, you know what???  i like it
no matter how they sing it.
now about the song which you (susan) called "remember everything i told
you"  actually on the set list they call it "everything in it's own
time"  at least that is what my memory claims to recall.  (don't ream me
if i'm wrong)  that song is great as well.  though i'm not positive yet
on it's meaning (i want to have something left to figure out with their
new cd) i am thinking that it has multiple references to
christianity--the disciples, etc.  crud, i can't seem to pull any lines
up out of my head, maybe i'll go work on that and get back to you (but
by then the list will have eaten it alive.)

*smile*

andrea

hello everyone,

this is not amy h., this is her friend valerie, we are roommates
and i just wanted everyone on the list to know that this sunday(nov
10th) is amys' birthday, she will be 25 years old, if anyone fells like
telling her happy birthday she would be very shocked and surprised.
i guess that is all i have to say for now, check ya later.

valerie

i have a favor to ask all of you...

my roommate, dana, just got out of the hospital, after bring there for a
week with viral meningitis. could anyone who has time just write her a
short e-mail saying that you're from the ig list & that you hope she feels
better soon? she'd think it was really sweet. her address is
<grasso@sas.upenn.edu>...thanks in advance... :)

andi

          -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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                     there are two i don't understand
                     that's why i'm still on a search
                     through the weather strewn church
                       i'm doing the best that i can
                          and it's alright."-es
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hi y'all,

        i'm writing in response to joni's addition to my thread.  i love this
question!!!  if i had to choose my favorite song to harmonize to....i'd
have to go with cedar tree and love's recovery.  in these two songs,
amy's harmony parts are perfect for my range.  even though i am a guy,
she sings low enough for me to hit all her notes without straining. i
especially love the beginning of the the second verse of love's
recovery("there i am in the younger days.......")  i think the harmony
there is so beautiful.  anyway, there's my $0.02

hi-- i've just (literally) joined this list, and wanted to say hello to
everyone!! i was so glad to find this place!

--anais

>please help...
this is my first time on the page.  i have become very confused by
everything.  first of all, is it just my server or can no one connect to the
faq page in the www?  second, since i am new this question may have been
asked before, does anyone have some of the ig original creations that can
not be bought in the stores (tuesday's children..if it exists)?  finally,
this may sound really lame, but what is a tape tree and how does it work????
i'm really psyched to have found this site.  i have spent many endless hours
surfing the web and visiting every indigo site.  it's incredible how many
web sites there are.  i feel pity for those die hard fans who aren't online.
they are missing alot.  if someone could help me out, please e-mail me
privately.  "thanks y'all" so much in advance.
trek
"lookin'up at the ******,mooooo."

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hey y'all! (geez, i never thought i'd say that, having lived in chicago
all my life!) just thought i'd add my $.02. my favorite song to harmonize
to is definetly love will come to you. i was first introduced to the
girls when i heard galileo on the radio (gasp!) and i immediately went
out and bought rop. i fell in love with it instantly. i played it for my
friend janet the first chance i got and we both decided we would audition
for a duet spot in a choir concert for high school with lwcty. well, what
do you know, we got the spot! the rest is history and i now not only can
sing harmony, but can hear and make it up all thanks to a & e!

jen

how about ....

the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously, it's only life after all ...

from the infamous "ctf"

and

i had a lot of good intentions
sit around for fifty years and then collect a pension

from "h&an"

the guini meister

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on tue, 5 nov 1996, andi wrote:

> so here's the next question...
> which two lines from two emily songs did amy say that she didn't want to
> sing when she first heard them?

i think they're "it's only life after all" from ctf and "sit around for 50
years and then collect a pension" from han.
do i get a special prize, too, andi? do i? do i? pretty puuhleeeze?
sorry y'all. i guess today is my attention seeking day...damn hump day...

veronica

-- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i sing emily's part all the time.

except when i'm singing amy's.  i'm a harmony person, and since most of my
friends  usually have an easier time picking out emily's part, i compulsively
go for the part they aren't singing.  my voice is soprano though...... but i
love amy's harmony parts cause they're usually more challenging......   oh my
god-- i just realized what it is.... i am an alto stuck in a soprano's voice
box!!!!  aaaaarrrrgggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

la la la la la la la la,
sam

<< my request - okay, y'all, having run up against my first striking instance
of
institutionalized homophobia, i need help. i need to find some really good
gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good suggestions
for inclusion in a high school lit class. >>

i'm sorry....i can't resist.......meeeeeee tooooooooooooo.  please.  i go to
a conservative, preppy, incredibly wealthy, and close-minded suburban
cincinnati school.  daily, i overhear comments (as part of normal
conversation) about how all gays should be shot and how revoluting being gay
is.  since only my closest friends know that i'm bi (several of them are,
too), i have been able to frequently debate school aquaintances/"friends"
that there is nothing immoral or wrong with being gay or bisexual without
them even realizing that i am one of the people they would "_hate_" if they
ever found out about.  and i have succeeded in convincing some people their
is nothing wrong with being g/l/b. (one such person is now one of my best
friends!)
     so as i'm on my "enlightenment mission" several things i am doing is to
organize the inclusion of my school in the "day of silence" (a national event
taking place in spring).  also, for my senior literary specialist project
(one reads mountains of books on a particular subject or by a particular
author for the entire year and then there is a major report) my topic is on
society's view on sexuality (from double-standards to debates on the ethics
being gay/lesbian/bi).  any books or advice you could give me will help me
graduate, and maybe help me make a stronger case next time i have to
debate...
    sorry for the long nigc-- thanks if you're still with me!

always,
sam

er, while i agree with the general message of this post (that is to go out
and vote), i feel it necessary to comment that it is important to vote for
president.

congress is not "who decides" ... at least not alone.  everybody remember
school house rock and that spiffy song about "three-ring government"?  we
have 3 separate but co-equal branches of government.  congress is very
important (and as a student of american political institutions it is my
absolute favorite thing in the political world) but so is the president.
remember there are certain things the president can do independently of congress(via excutive orders) and certain things the president is responsible for
and initiates with the approval of congress (federal budget, court appointees,
treaties etc.)!  so even if you hate the 2 major party candidates or think
that your vote is useless of unecessary because of all the polls, vote anyway.

of course vote for congress, and for any state, county, or local officals that
are rrunning. one of the great ironies of the american political system is
that those whose actions affect our lives the most (local level political
figures) are the elections we most often ignore. so vote for them too.

this public service announcement has been brought to you by the same person
who after work is running errands and voting, is sitting in front of the
television watching election returns all night for fun and keeping tallies
of who wins because i am lame and love to do that sort of thing.

cynthia crecca
crecca@admin.njit.edu

anybody have any comments on how i should vote for in the nj senate race since
i am having a difficult time, feel free to e-mail me.

go jan graham in utah! (for corinne aka jan graham jr.)

november 5
j.f.l.devaney@aston.ad.uk (john)
happy birthday, john!
every five years or so i look back on my life,
and i have a good laugh...
(watershed)

alla you yankees, get out and vote!

hi everyone!

i'm apoligizing for my confusion with my computer...i recently sent a
message about singing parts...when i checked the 'sent box' in my mail
box - it appears i sent it out six times!!!! i'm very sorry (i really
am!) please don't blast me for it :d!!!

vote!!!
amy h

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joni said:

>       as far as ctf goes, i sort of take that as a given
> for all ig fans...that they have that song down pat.  i think it's a rule,
> isn't it?  all parts known backwards and forwards....including the whistle
> part (which for many is the hardest part, since the range is kinda
> wide....)?  if it isn't, well hell, it should be!

speaking of the whistle part, on the history of us boot (that is if we
all have the same version), is it just me or is the whistle completely
and horribly out of tune? i love this version, except that i cringe and
cry when the whistle part comes on....anyone relate?

the lone coyote

on 11/6/96, the lone coyote wrote:

>speaking of the whistle part, on the history of us boot (that is if we
>all have the same version), is it just me or is the whistle completely
>and horribly out of tune? i love this version, except that i cringe and
>cry when the whistle part comes on....anyone relate?

girl, i cringe everytime i go to an ig concert because without a musician
playing a tin whistle, i know the whistle part is most probably going to be
totally out of tune!  do you know what that does to the ears of a person as
harmonious as myself?  oooowwwwww!  i don't have the hou boot, but i was at
nff 96 and hampton beach this year, and let me tell you, my hair stood on
end!  i say they should pick a good whistler out of the audience and let
he/she get up on stage and do it alone.  although i like to sing, i also
like to listen, and i'd be willing to listen to a good whistler do that
part.  anyone else?

joni :>}

i naturally fall into the amy parts because i have an alto vocal range but i really try to do emily's lines a lot too because i love her melodies. i guess you could say i try both parts equally as much. i really owe my ability to harmomnize to singing along with ig as much as possible (in the car, in the house, in the shower, etc..... etc....)

the melster

is this it?

could tonight be the night?

tune in at 8 and find out!!!!!

peace-

karrie

vote...vote...vote...

amy h

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from:         dave jackson <jacksond@uoguelph.ca>
subject:      "romeo and juliet" (nigc)

hi everyone! :)

this is _totally_ off topic, so please feel free to use your delete
key as desired. i know that these posts are discouraged, but i truly
am unknowing as where to turn for assistance, and from being a member
of the indigo girls mailing list since early june, i know that
there are many who would be willing to lend a helping hand.

i recently viewed the movie william shakespeare's "romeo and juliet"
and was amazed.  it is truly the _best_ film i have ever seen.  i do
not use that description loosely, as i do love all kinds of movies,
including comedies, dramas, actions and thrillers.  (i must confess,
i can not stomach horror films.  *blush*)  yet, "romeo and juliet"
has touched my heart in a way no other film ever has.

i was surprised, as i do not consider myself to be the "mushy,
romantic type", but was totally enthralled by the conviction of
leonardo dicaprio and claire danes in the title roles. it was
*amazing* and, although some may have criticisms, this is my personal
favourite of all movies i have viewed.

the above is some background information so you are able to grasp
just how much i love the movie. here is my current dilemma, and
would appreciate it if someone could help me out:

as promotion for the movie, romeo and juliet postcards have been
inserted into the november issue of five widely-received magazines.
these magazines are: ym, glamour, elle, madamoiselle and seventeen.

these tear-off postcards are located in pairs, and each magazine is
given a specific postcard "couple". 2 postcards x 5 magazines = 10
postcards in all.

thus far, i have six of the ten available romeo and juliet postcards,
and strongly wish to complete my collection, for the postcards so
beautifully depict scenes which i would love to capture.

i have:
-romeo/juliet (located in seventeen)
-violence/passion (located in elle)
-vengeance/forgiveness (located in madamoiselle)

i am in need of:
-despair/hope
-love/death

two of these postcards are located in glamour, while the remaining
two are in ym (young & modern). [i am not sure which ones are
where].

i have been unsuccessful in locating the postcards in these two
magazines, although i *have* found the correct issues -- without the
postcards.

curious and disappointed, i contacted www.romeoandjuliet.com (who has
an excellent website, btw) where i asked them about the missing
postcards from the correct issues.  this site is where i originally
found out about the existence of the postcards.  they replied,
stating that before the issues were sent to stores people stole the
some of the postcards.  as a result, not all postcards were available
for circulation.  :(

this is where i come to you, fellow listers, for support and
assistance. november issues are currently being depleted from
stores, in favour of the upcoming issues, which leaves me unable to
attain the postcards i need.

do you happen to know of a (legal) method with which i can obtain the
desired issues -- *complete* with postcards? is there a place i can
order backissues? have any of you seen the above postcards?

i am grateful for any help you can offer. this may seem like a
trivial, insignificant manner, but movies offer consolation,
support and reassurance to me. it is import to receive such warm
feelings, even from external sources.

for all of you who have read this far, you have my heartfelt thanks.
i wouldn't bother taking up bandwith unless this was really important
to me. thank you for your time, patience, and understanding.

sincerely,
lisa jackson

p.s. i am sending a duplication of this message to the other mailing
lists i belong to, so i apologize if this post comes across as
impersonal. that is not my intention.

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leonardo dicaprio claire danes

"...of young juliet and her romeo."
-william shakespeare

leonardo dicaprio claire danes
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going along with the theme....

which solo song did amy originaly write for the two of them together =
until emily told her that she couldn't sing it?=20

and a bowl of grape nuts to the winner!

...wheels in motion...
greta

"...and when i'm driving down the street and i see some guy who has a =
bumpersticker i don't believe in, what i want to do--i mean i try to be =
understanding--but what i really want to do is go faster and faster and =
ram into the back of his car!!"
-a. ray

hi everyone,
i know that i never post anything and you probably don't know who i am but i
have a funny story to tell.  actually i thought it was funny but it others
might find it difficult to see the humor.  well, the other day, i was having
a conversation with my roomie about music.  well, she starts talking about
this girl she once knew who was a psycho ig fan.  she was saying how she
would listen to their music everyday, watch their videos everyday and relate
them to everything in her life.  i was getting all excited listening to her
describing this girl.  well, i am just about to ask her for the girl's name
and number thinking that it would be cool to meet her.  then i realized who
she was talking about:  me!  :)  she left me the fool.  ;)  isn't that funny
though?  well, i think it is.  i just wanted to let everyone know how much
of a freak i am.  anyway, have a good day!  hey, that rhymes!  see, i am
poetically gifted....

rebekah
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"why are people such ignorant
dorks sometimes?"
---------------------sam lipman
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responding to the message of    tue, 5 nov 1996 08:35:18 -0800
from    "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>:
>
> >         hi y'all...jonny just brought up a new thread...which ig part
> > do you
> > sing to...that's a tough one!!!

definately amy. i assume most male fans would agree, just because of the
deeper voice..."is there ever anything else to make us take our different
sides..." love it!!
stephen

i first heard the girls when i came here to college.  (a small, liberal arts
christan university, mind you. ;)  they seem to be the universal music group on
campus.  every floor has at least one cd.  and, i didn't know they were
lesbians until about five months after i was hooked.  r&j made me wonder,
though, but it wasn't a problem.  i think that if people can't get over their
orientation, then they probably wouldn't enjoy the music anyway.  so, i don't
push it.  for myself, i never listen to or like music that has been forced on
me.

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers." -michael shurtleff

on mon, 4 nov 1996, jonny wrote:

> i know everyone here loves to sing along with the girls. but what i
> was wondering was, who's part do you sing when you sing along?

i'm an alto, so i naturally gravitate towards amy's parts.  but, i'm learning
emily's parts for when i play my guitar.  most people seem to recognize the
melody better than the harmony.  ;)

on tue, 5 nov 1996, joan wrote:

> so here's a more detailed question regarding singing parts: what is your
> favorite ig song to harmonize to?

love will come to you, of course! :) *sigh* the lyrics have been a hope that
keeps me going some days...

> which song do you sound the best at?

the wood song

> do you
> sound good enough so that if you were in the audience and emily or amy pointed
> to you to come up on the stage and take a part, which song would you choose, and
> which part would you sing?

uh...i'm still getting over a little stage fright with reguards to singing (but
i'm getting better!), but i would have to say let it be me.

i like this thread!

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take if you admit you're bonkers." -michael shurtleff

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 11:47:25 +1000
reply-to:     julie jansen <j.jansen@student.qut.edu.au>
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good on you sam, for telling the world how it is.

> gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good
>suggestions for inclusion in a high school lit class. >>

i can't remembe the name of the book, i'll bring it with me next week
(since i won't be here friday-sun) but there is a very good anthology of
gay literature out by i think, harper collins. about $15 or so. it's a
collection of gay literature, not really lesbian i'm afraid but as short
stories, it's all very interesting, and most of it by famous writers like
dh.lawrence, tennessee etc. highly recommended. i'll bring the details
along next week since it's excellent reading. quite a hefty book, lots of
stories to choose from. and cheeep!

>is. since only my closest friends know that i'm bi (several of them are,
>too), i have been able to frequently debate school aquaintances/"friends"
>that there is nothing immoral or wrong with being gay or bisexual without
>them even realizing that i am one of the people they would "_hate_" if
>they ever found out about. and i have succeeded in convincing some
>people their is nothing wrong with being g/l/b. (one such person is now

yup, yep. i know just what you mean. there is really no such thing as a
100% homo or hetro anyway.. i see nothing wrong with saying 'damn she's
beautiful', it doesn't take away the monogamy or loyalty to my r/ship. and
besides, who wants to live with their head in the sand?

as a journalism student, i've decided to take advantage of having public
attention and i write 'queer is a straight issue' articles when i can,
make the lecturers aware of the diversity of students and more
importantly, the prescence of gay issues in mainstream media.

when queer love is recognised in public-not just in law- as genuine and
acceptable - i'll pack up my tape recorder, notebook and brain and move to
the south pole. until then, the beat goes on, the job is still to be done
and we can all pull together!

damn, i said i was going to be quiet the first week and just observe :-p

>being gay/lesbian/bi). any books or advice you could give me will help
>me graduate, and maybe help me make a stronger case next time i have to
>debate...

believe it or not there is loads of stuff right in front of you on the
net. i recently had to write a 3000 word paper on un treaties and gay law
in australia, i got 46/50, the second highest mark in class. every single
reference was from the net.

cheerio!
your local pagan/astrologer/naughty person/crotchwatcher/warrior woman
julie
  _--_|\  julie jansen  }0:-)>
/      qut journalist-in-training/due south astrologer/veryexcitable person
\_.--._/   brisbane, australia
       v    j.jansen@student.qut.edu.au or n1337581@redash.qut.edu.au.
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"i'm not *gay*! i"m an alcoholic - big difference!"  grace under fire

spontaneous jazz tunes are drifting into my window from real live people
playing instruments. such a neat accompaniment for my first post.

about me...i am twenty-one...recently adopted a rubber duck named
romeoandjuliet...voted yesterday, laughing all the way at how the
anti-gay anti-clinton lobby convinced me of the rightness of voting for
clinton...i study history and english at penn but put more time into
computer (web) stuff and fiction...once i accidently broke jaffa gate.
oh, and i like the indigo girls. ;) as a writer i really got into
reading the 1200 curfews liner notes. particularly emily's comments
about "back together again" and amy's about closer to fine.

i'm doing a couple of papers for my biology class about bisexuality and
haven't found much data about biological explanation for it.  anyone know
of sources for this?  or is there just not information?  the last article
i read (from 1992) hypothesized that "for bisexual people, choice of
sexual partner may not be based on gender but on other dimensions of
person perception" whereas for exclusively heterosexual or homosexual
people "sexual partner's gender is a major dimension of choice."  the
study done to support this hypothesis was pretty lame, but the idea
itself made sense to me, and my prof said i could include an informal
survey as part of my paper.  so what do y'all think?  use your judgment
on whether to email or post--this seems to be on the border of what's
discussed on the listserv.  i'd be happy to share the paper with anyone
who wants to read.

also, in response to the two people asking for literature: check out the
short story section of a place like border's or barnes&noble....they have
anthologies on tons of themes and you can probably find at least a few short
stories that are appropriate.  i know novels were the more common thing
to read in my high school, but the cool thing about short stories is that
you can do more of them, and get different views on the topic.  jeannette
winterson's novel "oranges aren't the only fruit" is pretty good, but
she's talking about growing up amidst a fundamentalist religious family
in england a few decades ago, and the theme (as i remember it--i read it
last summer) is more about being a minority and coming to terms with her
identity, which has been done a lot.  a lot of minority literature has
dealt with that kind of thing...to a degree it helps to be aware of the
hatred and prejudice around, but in the long run i think it's better to
read about people who aren't hung up about their ethnic/racial/sexual
identities but just let them enhance their lives.  ideal "sexuality
fiction" would be an _on the road_-type book, a group of friends of
various sexualities and various personalities just roadtripping across
the states one summer catching all the indigo girls shows they can,
having spontaneous singalongs by campfires, falling in and out of love,
dealing with fear of heights while hiking the grand canyon, pontificating
on the relative nutritional values of honeysuckle and clovers...you get
the picture.  not "this is a gay person writing about being gay" but
"this is a cool person writing about doing cool things who happens to be
gay, or bi, or straight, or whatever."  unfortunately i haven't quite
pulled it off in my own writing yet, but i do have a related story
online, lamely-yet-appropriately entitled "coming out."  you can get to
it from the "reference" section of my web page,
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein.

i'll get off the soapbox now. any reading suggestions would be
appreciated.

--audrey

p.s. the faq has been elusive for the few weeks since i joined the
listserv...does anyone know of its current whereabouts? is it time to
advertise on a milk carton?

weeelll, i seem to be posting a lot lately, but this "they're lesbians!!!"
thing got to me.  as i'm in the midst of getting really really pissed off and
stuck in the middle of gay stuff in a homophobic place, i was daydreaming
about the nice summer i had, and remembered a not-as-nice incident...riding
in a van with some friends i had made, talking to some people in the back
about ig (of course!) and one person turns around and said "who's talking
about the ig?" i replied "i am, of course."  and she said "oh.  do you know
they're gay?  very gay."  like, uh, yeah, very lesbian, whatever that's
supposed to mean.  i said yes, and she looked at me and said "are you gay?"
argh! i told the truth, how it was at that point, but i am so sick of people
categorizing music, of all things!  music is one thing that reaches across
divisions and makes people happy, why do people have to stick labels to
that????
argh!  ~katy
btw, i laughed when whoever wrote about switching parts mid-song, b/c i do
that too.  i like both their parts so i can't keep myself to only one per
song :)

coul someone please send me the setlist for days of wine and roses? i'd
appreciate it. also, how can i get a copy of the santa fe boot??!!??

mary :)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

e-mail addresses:
physicsnerd@geocities.com
ugkushma@ecuvm1.cis.ecu.edu
ugkushma@ecuvax.cis.ecu.edu
mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net

"i said, don't, don't give that girl a gun..."--amy ray
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i notice that i always tend to jump around quite a bit from emily to amy. . .

it really depends on what kind of a mood i'm in...
my sister & i love to take road trips & sing duets, but it gets confusing w/
both of us skipping around on the harmonies :)

-anais

okay, i need to express my opinion about this because i don't understand
how anyone could like this movie...i have to say this is the biggest
injustice to william shakespeare ever done...i think most people who have
read the play must agree with this somewhat---it's creative, in it's own
way--sure, call the movie romeo and juliet but don't do shakespeare the
injustice of tagging his name on the title...by the way, the song romeo and
juliet seems truer to the actual play than this new movie, so as to include
just a very small bit of indigo girls content...tricia

>i notice that i always tend to jump around quite a bit from emily to amy. . .
>
>it really depends on what kind of a mood i'm in...
>my sister & i love to take road trips & sing duets, but it gets confusing w/
>both of us skipping around on the harmonies :)
>

my cousin and my friends and i do this all the time! we'll agree to either
sing emily or amy on any given song and then inevitably sing the wrong
part... it seems like we just sing our favorite parts, regardless of which
indigo girl is actually doing the singing:)--tricia

hey kind friends
i can't let this one go...

personally, i thought r&j was one of the worst films of the year. claire
danes is the love of my life, but she couldn't save this one. i won't go any
further because of the nigc, but i had to say it.
stephen, a film production major who could go on for hours...

in a message dated 96-11-06 20:30:47 est, cgohn@olympus.net (candice gohn)
writes:

>which solo song did amy originaly write for the two of them together until
>emily told her that she couldn't sing it?

was it the ballad of squeaky fromme (is that spelled right?)?

peace,
margot

i'm very new to this list, so i don't want to step on any toes, but...

i completely disagree w/ st.gilis on what he said about r&j. . . i absolutly
adored the film, and thought clare danes & leaonardo dicaprio did a wonderful
job (especially since both said they had absolutly no connection off-screen).
and i was very impressed w/ the cinematography. but that's just my opinion
:)

i love shakespeare dearly and have read romeo and juliet many times. i went
into this movie thinking that it would be an artless teeny-bopper piece of
injustice to shakespeare. but i believe i was proven wrong. the only real
guidelines shakespeare had for this play was that you read what is writen.
shakespeare said how romeo and juliet was interprited is and always has been
up to the actors and director. if this movie hadn't been done in
shakespearean language it would have been horible. but i think it was
interprited very well. i have seen other shakeaspeare plays that have been
modernised and i havn't liked any of them. but this one was done with some
real class and a lot of creative and inteligent thinking.
his language was expressed very well and i think that if shakespeare were
alive he wouldn't think this movie was too bad. he wrote these plays to
entertain. the fact that this was done in moddern times is only to conform
to the audience, to entertain a modern audience. and that it is doing. i
think shakepeare would have been very amused with this interpritation of his
play.
(if i remember right, shakespeare never put a date in the setting for romeo
& juliet in his play.)

hollie
a sophomore at
capital high school
olympia washington

at 09:02 pm 11/6/96 -0600, you wrote:
>okay, i need to express my opinion about this because i don't understand
>how anyone could like this movie...i have to say this is the biggest
>injustice to william shakespeare ever done...i think most people who have
>read the play must agree with this somewhat---it's creative, in it's own
>way--sure, call the movie romeo and juliet but don't do shakespeare the
>injustice of tagging his name on the title...by the way, the song romeo and
>juliet seems truer to the actual play than this new movie, so as to include
>just a very small bit of indigo girls content...tricia
>
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aaahhh! i know this is nigc, but since others have jumped in to slander
this film, i think its only fair for someone to defend it. i'll make
this short: shakespeare's romeo and juliet is the best movie i've ever
seen. if any of you have not seen it yet, i highly recommend it and
judge for yourselves. i have talked to many who have seen it and it's
really interesting because the responses are always either total
amazement at the film's incredible greatness (like me) or complete
disdain (like tricia).

and, as far as igc, i disagree that the ig's r and j is more true to the
play. yes, i have read the play and yes, i do love the ig's r and j.
but, the play is a tragedy because r and j die soon after they realize
true love. the song is tragic because juliet's love for romeo dies and
romeo is left alive to deal with it. the song is more true to real life
maybe, but definitely not to the play. its a total alteration of the
play's storyline.

that's my 2 cents which i just had to contribute because i loved the
movie so much.
_______________
dsrogers
"it's only life"
-you know who
_______________

hey y'all...after some major lurking(how unlike me!) i have returned to my
keyboard...amazing how much i missed reading all of the threads... what a
happy family! anyway, i was reading the thread about new shirts...whoever
came up with that idea is a genius! sounds great to me! if you all wanna
throw out some lines we can vote on some good ones... who wants to start?
yes, you in the corner? :) can't wait to hear em!
:o)
tiff (and her $.02)
(who looks forward to hearing everyones "top 10 reasons why you know you're
obsessed with the indigo girls")

n tue, 5 nov 1996, susan b. marine wrote:

> --- you wrote:
> even the dorm director in my dorm
> said, "they're lesbians!" when i said indigo girls were my favorite

does that sound familiar. i met a person with whom i thought i have a
great potential of becoming good friends because we both love music and
movies and all that...and when he asked me who i listen to, ig naturally
came out first. "but they're both gay!" he exclaimed like i'm doing
something stupid that i'm unaware of.

"so? so am i."

and that's when he decided he doesn't want to be my friend.

han

i completely agree w/ dsrogers about romeo & juliet!!! i thought it was an
amazing film-- those who criticize it for being different than the original
should remember that william shakespeare left the interpretation of his play
up to future actors & directors. i think he would have enjoyed this version!

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