lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-11b


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date:         wed, 6 nov 1996 23:30:41 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: trivia
x-to:         simply v <vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.95.961106183246.26299a-100000@is4.nyu.edu>

why wouldn't amy want to sing those lines?
ben
"today is for you..tomorrow for me!"
-jonathan larson

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date:         wed, 6 nov 1996 23:51:16 -0700
reply-to:     verdi@imap2.asu.edu
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: romeo&juliet(nigc)
x-to:         rachael cannon <anaisbleu@aol.com>
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  i had mixed reactions myself. i thought when peice became less abstract
and more in touch with reality it worked. i loved seeing juliet in a
t-shirt and jeans and romeo living in a trailer. but at times the
directing became somewhat annoying.  in the beginning the direction was
unfocused  and just plain cheesy.
   although shakespeare's works were written for entertainment they are
still very real peices. there is nothing wrong with a modern
interpretation if properly done. don't get me wrong, there was some great
work in the film. but the director should have made it a movie not a
showpeice!
    that's it.
ben

" if all the world is a stage where the hell is my spotlight"
- cole porter

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date:         wed, 6 nov 1996 23:53:21 -0600
reply-to:     "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
subject:      re: new shirt!

i believe jen hall began the original "you might be an obsessed indigo
girls fan" thread, and she posted a top ten list.  i think we might
want to add a few, like that one about stealing the indigo girls cd
dividers at music stores (um, i think some really cool person thought of
that one.....oh what was the name? wait, wait, it's coming to
me....something like amber! yeah, she's pretty cool, in fact she's the
definition of cool)  well, i need to study for history. i love you man!
amber
p.s. i'm too sexy for my dog too sexy for my dog....i'm a model ya' know
what i mean and i do my little turn on the catwalk, on the catwalk,
yeah, i shake my little tush on the catwalk....back to history

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 00:56:46 -0500
reply-to:     audrey stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
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from:         audrey stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
subject:      romeo, juliet, & attraction (nigc)

i'm not a shakespeare fan. i've got a grudging respect for him thanks to a
wicked cool english prof this semester, but i still think--as i've
thought since eighth grade--that the man is overrated.  that said, i
really enjoyed the movie.  it was neat seeing such an old story work in a
modern setting, and both the allusions (signs for "merchant of verona,"
etc) and the fishtank were nice touches.

i hadn't read or seen the play beforehand, and this finally explained one
movie phenomenon that's been bugging me for a while.  in nearly every
romance movie i've seen, there is no real explanation for why the two main
characters should fall in love, except for the facts that they are the two
main characters and they are both attractive.  this ruins many movies for
me.  now i understand why: shakespeare set the precedent.  i think the
current movie did a decent job with the instantlove thing, but imagine
people like paul feiffer (from the wonder years) and kimi gibbler (from
full house) in the starring roles.  it just doesn't work.  you'd start
laughing.

if you're wondering, the exceptions to the rule are the following: when
harry met sally, two girls in love, poison ivy (tv movie with michael j.
fox and nancy mckeon, not the drew barrymore flick), before sunrise, and
reality bites.  (a couple of my friends disagree with reality bites, but
i stand firm.)  your additions to this list are welcome.

--audrey

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 02:07:55 -0500
reply-to:     pjhoopie@aol.com
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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      thread - world falls

hey everyone,

i have been enjoying the threads so much i wanted to start my own.

i love to take my guitar to beautiful places and play wf.  places like
snoqualamie falls (i live in wa state).  i went to the highest trail head in
the olympic penninsula and played wf to this beautiful valley.  i stayed at a
cabin by myself for a weekend and played my guitar for 6-7hours straight
which included playing wf to the sunsetting behind the olympic range and
reflecting blood red on puget sound.  when driving my vw bus to mt. rainier i
will play wf on my tape deck to the mountain.  i feel so connected to
everything when doing this.  it is a very spiritual experience for me.

so my question is where do people go that they want to or do sing/listen
to/play world falls?  does the beauty keep shaking you, too?

a message of love from
pj

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 02:07:54 -0500
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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      re: singing parts

i love singing with ig.  i am trying to learn to harmonize so i will pick out
the harmony parts wherever i can.  i am an alto so i prefer amy's parts but i
can sing em's too.  if i am not singing with ig, but playing my guitar or
someone else is playing their guitar, and i try to sing harmony alone, i just
sound off key.  i have embarassing recordings of this.  i also sing very loud
in my vw bus especially to libm ot jcs and my new favorite to belt out is
soy.  these threads are so wonderful.  thank you everyone for sharing you ig
experiences.

pj

and when the beautiful ladies walk right by you know i never know what to
say...ar

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 02:12:08 -0500
reply-to:     simply v <vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu>
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from:         simply v <vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu>
subject:      re: trivia
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.91.961106232950.4209a-100000@email1.asu.edu>

on wed, 6 nov 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> why wouldn't amy want to sing those lines?
> ben

this is from "shades of indigo", an interview (and some other stuff) with
shawn colvin (thanks susan =) :
em:  or, like, amy will say, "well, what about this line?", you know,
     like, "what do you mean here?" (chuckles) there's this a song, hammer
     and a nail,
amy: (giggles)
em:  it's about thinking too much and not...thinking too much and starting
     to take actions and stuff like that.  there's a line in it that goes,
     "i had a lot of good intentions, sit around for 50 years and then
     collect a pension".  and then amy's like, "i'm not sure i wanna sing
     that line"
amy: (chuckling) cause i  never felt that way
em:  cause she never feels that way
amy: i mean, it never even occured to me, even thinking that way.  did it
     occur to you?
em:  well, it's just a way to describe...
amy: okay, i don't want to work with you anymore
em:  yeah, it was just a way to describe a state of mind.  but anyway, that
     is just an example of what goes on, it's not like we just
shawn: so,she sort of challenged you on that line...
em: yeah
shawn: not that you had no right to say it
(then everyone starts talking at once)
amy: well, closer to fine is another example
em:  yeah
amy: when you said, "it's only life after all", i...that struck me as
     being incredibly, um, blase about something that was so sacred to me.
     cause i'm a little more serious about it, sometimes, i'm not as good
     at being light, you know.  and then i understood the what she meant
     better
em:  well we both feel that life is sacred in the same...you know...
amy: right, so after i sort of studied the song, i realized what she was
     saying...like i didn't hear anything else...like when she first sung
     it, the only thing that i heard her say was, "it's only life after
     all", and my ears were, like, deaf to everything else, and i was,
     like, "how can you say that?", cause i was in a serious mood or
     something (laughs)
shawn: so, but eventually...
amy: yeah, i love it
em:  so in this new line, i said, "well, you just don't sing this one line
     then, i'll sing it"
amy: and i do sing it now

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okay, that took a lot longer than i thought it would...

veronica

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        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        i said it's 3 am, and it's good company
        hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me remember who i am

                                        -- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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date:         tue, 5 nov 1996 19:12:52 -0600
reply-to:     ryan <ryan@ou.edu>
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from:         ryan <ryan@ou.edu>
organization: the university of oklahoma
subject:      voting--nigc

hi everyone,
i just wanted to say that i voted for the very first time today and i am
very excited about it.  it was also kind of cool to be wearing my
brand-new list shirt to vote in.  i didn't really think about much until
after i voted, but i think that it's kind of poetic that i voted in this
shirt as opposed to any other.  seeing as how political the list and ig
are.  i don't know if that's close to igc or not, which is why i said it
was nigc.  better to be safe than flamed!
keep on groovin',
ryan

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 06:31:32 -0800
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: new shirt!

hey y'all...
at 07:54 pm 11/5/96 -0500, tiff wrote:

>throw out some lines we can vote on some good ones... who wants to start?
>yes, you in the corner? :) can't wait to hear em!
achem... forward slash me steps out of *her* very own corner + says in a
small voice "uh... okay... well, like... you know you're obsessed with the
indigo-girls ( and this twisted list ) when you are wheeling your cart down
the grocery store isle, sight grape nuts on the shelf and wax nostalgic to a
perfect stranger all about grape nuts and indigo swirl ice cream and famous
mister limes... and... and... well y'all get the picture":-) ( "yes, we
see... that's when i fell for the leader of the pack".... !!!! ooops...
whole other era + group:) )
ummm... try and put that on a t-shirt:)
peace all... kim ( goddess and proud owner of an indiglo watch, just
cause...) :-)
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      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
"i'm running with scissors!!!!!!!"
---------------justkim---------------
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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 07:16:45 -0600
reply-to:     "s. steffen" <ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
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from:         "s. steffen" <ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
subject:      b&n/borders, thanks, and ctf
in-reply-to:  <199611070234.vaa10226@netspace.org>

dear listers,

1.  i just read a post which i think audrey made about going to barnes
and noble or borders to find queer-themed books.  nothing against audrey,
or anyone else who patronizes or works at these institutions, but please
do not shop at them if you have any local alternatives.  both of these
stores and their parents companies are ruthless, walmart-like, and imho
evil corporate entities who put locally-owned bookstores--especially
feminist and queer stores--out of business with their allegedly unethical
bookbuying and discounting practices.  there was an article on this in
ms. a year or so ago, which i recommend you read (you being anyone on the
list, and i'll find the reference as soon as possible).  i've worked both
for b&n and for a bookstore in a large midwestern city put out of
business by borders, so i'm not speaking only from an academic point of view.

2. thanks so much to all of the listers who sent birthday wishes to my
sister, cathy.  she emailed me asking me "you wouldn't happen to know how
about 10 iglisters sent me birthday messages, now would you?"  heh heh
heh.  <8*]  asa side note, she's been trying to get on this list for
about a month now, and i finally have to concede that i do not remember
how i got on here.  embarrassing, eh?  if anyone can email me that simple
info, i'd appreciate it.

3. this morning as i got into my car from the place i buy bagels, the
sweet sounds of ctf floated (okay, blasted) into my ear from the college
radio station.  go krui!  i am about to call them and say thanks! play
more ig!  and play some dar!  i have come to the conclusion that i cannot
sing any single part because i'm so goddamn bad at hearing harmony when
i'm singing, so i just sing (in tune) with whoever's louder at the
moment (a or e).  i hate this about myself and find it totally shameful, but
there it is...all my raw singing shame exposed to the list!  ack!  ;-}

see y'all later, i'm off to teach rhetoric... i think.

--suzi
ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 09:29:14 -0400
reply-to:     paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil
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from:         sean daly <paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil>
subject:      question

             could someone tell me which indigo girl wrote "if you live like
that" or which recording it is on? i'd appreciate any info if anybody's
got any? thanks.  :)
                   pj

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 03:12:50 -0500
reply-to:     "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
subject:      what's to be said about fair use?

on my ig page, i have thought about posting lyrics to some of my favorite
ig songs, but have been hesitant to do so since all the songs are
copyrighted.  but since i would not be posting the lyrics for personal gain
or financial gain, would i still get my butt into some legal trouble?  i
would just be posting them as a source of info and to share them with the
www community.  any advice?  fair use is a fine line in these situations, i
realize that.

mary

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http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 23:09:08 +0800
reply-to:     anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@portalinc.com>
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@portalinc.com>
subject:      international buy nothing day (nigc)

apologies for the length and not directly ig-related content of this post --
thought some folks would be interested in supporting this fine plan. looks
like the october 13 unplug america idea has gone global ...  so, in the
spirit of honoring the earth and other such ig kind of ideas, please read on
and join in.

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            29 november: international buy nothing day

sint-michielsgestel (the netherlands), october 1996

    friday, november 29th will be this year's international buy
nothing day: a day full of cheerful and peaceful actions and
activities to confront the shopping audience in the western countries
with the consequences of over-consumption and the influence of
advertising on our daily lives.
    buy nothing day will be celebrated in canada, the united states,
england, ireland, the netherlands, australia and new zealand.
    in the u.k. the day is called no shop day. in the netherlands
niet-winkeldag will be held on saturday, november 30th.

    why buy nothing day?

    25% of the world's population consumes 80% of the world's material
resources and owns over 80% of it wealth. although this global elite
includes people in almost every country, it is mainly concentrated in
the westernised, consumerist nations: the u.s., canada, western europe,
saudi arabia, australia and japan.
    therefore, the vast majority of the world's citizens has to be
content with the resting 20% this leads towards hunger and poverty in
large parts of the world. we must share the natural resources amongst
all world-citizens. 'there is enough on earth for everybody's need, but
not for everybody's greed', mahatma gandhi once famously said.

    a change of lifestyle

    the western lifestyle is a serious threat for earth's environment.
although more and more products use less energy and are made of recycled
or less polluting materials, these innovations would completely be
nullified if all world-citizens should live as western people.
    "to archieve sustainable development and a higher quality of life for
all people, states should reduce and eliminate unsustainable patterns of
production and consumption..." (principal 8 of the rio declaration on
environment and development, 1992).

    global action-day

    buy nothing day is part of the worldwide anti-consumerism campaign,
started in 1992 in canada, as a more or less personal statement on
consumerism, by ted dave. since then buy nothing day is spreading over
the world. there are groups now in canada, u.s. england, ireland, the
netherlands, new zealand and australia, preparing public- and media
actions on buy nothing day: november 29. you are invited to join them!

    all kinds of actions

    there is a large variety of actions: from creating shopping-
free zones in busy shopping areas by putting sofas, tables, carpets,
standard lamps etc., filled with people with their slippered feet
up. variation on this theme: creating a 'marked off area' with
participants playing chess, repairing clothes, reading books, painting,
chatting, anything that isn't shopping.
    in 1994 an aberdeen group of 'enough' set up a market stall selling
'happiness' at  5 a portion (in reality empty paper bags) and a
manchester group took this one stage further and launched a new
softdrink "happiness' in cans. compete with 'product shots' and their
own slick audio commercial.
    in canada the media foundation aired one of their tv un-
commercials during the cnn headline news, pointing out with the aid of
an animated pig the excesses of us consumption. this year the media
foundation wants to broadcast a similar ad in the capitals of all g7
nations along with a full page ad in the new york times.
    in the netherlands activists, dressed up as a clown and a rat
("stop the rat-race") meddled with the shopping audience in the
centre of utrecht, spreading leaflets. this resulted in very
enthusiastic reactions from the public and a lot of media-covering.

next year buy nothing day will be on wednesday, september 24. put
it in your agenda!

    further information

    the uk anti-consumerism campaign enough produced a very
informative booklet 'never enough?' it's available from enough in
manchester and costs only  1,50, including p&p. cheques payable to:
enough - anticonsumerism campaign'.
    the media foundation publishes the magazin adbusters
    omslag has made an action-handbook (in dutch)

    if you want to know more about buy nothing day-initiatives in
your own country, you can contact:

* australia
  ross kingsley/nepean greens
  e-mail: pclstaff@zeta.org.au

* canada:
  the media foundation, 1243 w, 7th avenue, vancouver bc v6h 1b7
  phone: (604)-7369401. fax: (604) 737-6021.
  e-mail: adbuster@wimsey.com

  ted dave (initiator) e-mail: teddave@blackice.org

* ireland:
  earth watch, harbouw view, bantry co, cork
  phone: ++27-50968 or ++27-50545

* the netherlands:
  omslag, werkplaats voor duurzame ontwikkeling, postbus 163,
  5270 ad sint-michielsgestel. phone: ++73.5941622 or ++30-
  2730100. e-mail: omslag@antenna.nl

* new zealand:
  fiona jack, 32 livingstone street, grey lynn, auckland, new zealand
  phone 09-376 5318. e-mail: adbusters@core.co.nz

* united kingdom:
  enough, one world centre, 6 mount street, manchester m2 5 ns
  phone: 0161.237-1630 fax: 0161-228-2347.
  e-mail: ethicon@mcr1.poptel.org.uk

* united states:
  wetlands, wetlands preserve, 161 hudson street, new york 10013
  phone: 001-212-9665244.

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 11:08:40 +0000
reply-to:     "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
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from:         "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      singing part

hey y'all.  since i've moved to fl, i sing lead--either part--most of the
time.  i'm the only person i know down here that listens to ig, so i don't
have anybody to sing along with (can you tell i'm feeling sorry for myself
today?)....  however, on the rare occasion i do stick to one part, emily's
is easier for me to follow--i guess i hear high tones better than low ones.

i had these two people tell me several years ago that any _real_ ig fan
could sing the songs and stick to one part--i just kind of rolled my eyes at
them because i sing what i like, but after that, in spite of the fact that
those two people annoyed me, i started trying to see if l could stick with
one part, and realized i can when i try to....

peace.

-rich benson
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cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
              -m. etheridge
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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 11:20:42 +0000
reply-to:     "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
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from:         "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      this thread gave me a nightmare

> do you
> sound good enough so that if you were in the audience and emily or amy pointed
> to you to come up on the stage and take a part, which song would you
choose, and
> which part would you sing?

y'all, this thread gave me a nightmare.  i was at a concert, and a&e
calledme up on the stage.  they told me to choose a song to sing.  for some
strange reason, i chose blood & fire--it's always been one of my favorites,
but i don't think i would ever offer to sing it in front of people.  anyway,
i got to "blood and fire are too much for these restless arms to hold," and
then went blank.  a&e and the audience and other musicians on the stage just
stared at me in silence.  i couldn't remember the next line for anything,
even though i've known the song for years.  anyway, that's the end of the
dream.  bites, huh?

-rich benson
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cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
              -m. etheridge
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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 07:36:40 -0800
reply-to:     candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
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subject:      re: trivia

in a message dated 96-11-06 20:30:47 est, cgohn@olympus.net (candice =
gohn)
writes:

>which solo song did amy originaly write for the two of them together =
until
>emily told her that she couldn't sing it?

was it the ballad of squeaky fromme (is that spelled right?)?

and the two lucky winners are....abigail and margot!!
congratulations ladies.  enjoy your grape nuts.

...kissing the damned...
greta

"...and when i'm driving down the street and i see some guy who has a =
bumpersticker i don't believe in, what i want to do--i mean i try to be =
understanding--but what i really want to do is go faster and faster and =
ram into the back of his car!!!!"

       =20

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subject:      re: trivia

on thu, 7 nov 1996 02:12:08 -0500, veronica wrote:

(a bunch of stuff from the "shades of indigo" thing)

wow!! thanks alot for posting that interview snippet.  is "shades of
indigo" a boot cd or tape (my ignorance shines through)?  and i was
wondering what other examples of recorded interviews exist (besides the
watershed video).  i'd love to get my hands on some of this stuff.  anyone
that could shed some light on this would be appreciated.

betsy

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..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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subject:      singing parts

ok.. now here's a question and an answer

i sing amy's parts (sorry johnny i was wrong earlier)
but what i usually do is make up my own parts
very much like a blues or jazz singer, starting with
the note amy gives (or sometimes em.. i switch too!)
and then go all around it, adding extra bits and ending with them
does anyone do that?...

now, of course i started doing that
with mm's work too... :)

anjeanette
(who is currently listening to poi dog pondering
"living in a dreaming body" lalala!)

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subject:      fantasy ig session

hey all, i have maybe a new thread.....what song would you like to have
the girls perform just for you.......just you and them in a studio maybe
of dressing room like on 1200 curfews version of thin line........i
think i would like "tangled up in blue" just cus its pretty long and i'd
want as much time as possible, but my fav would have to be the afore
mentioned 1200 version of "thin line", how about y'all?

don

viva la vie boheme!!

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in-reply-to:  <32817951.3af5@hsutx.edu> from "hsu amber r. batson" at nov 6,
              96 11:53:21 pm

> i believe jen hall began the original "you might be an obsessed indigo
> girls fan" thread, and she posted a top ten list.  i think we might
> want to add a few, like that one about stealing the indigo girls cd
> dividers at music stores

please let's add a few...there are enough letterman wannabe shirts out
there.  make it simple...a cool solid color (indigo?  faded dark green?),
maybe even get fancy and do it on a henley or v-neck shirt, but either
way no writing on the front...that way it can be multifunctional and be
worn under a jacket for an interview, and when it comes out during the
interview that the person interviewing likes ig, you take off the jacket
and turn around so she reads

   you know you're obsessed with the indigo girls when...

      (about eight or thirteen or eleven reasons written in funky
letters with some neat scribbles or design or something)

and then you get the job.  which is of course one where they have ig
playing constantly in the office, which is in boston on a quaint little
street with wonderful changing leaves in the fall, but really close to a
t stop for the winter, and there's business trips to new orleans, and a
cheap rent-controlled apartment with a good landlord...............

well i can dream, can't i?

--audrey

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subject:      where's my post....

hi y'all-
i sent a similar post yesterday, but apparently it was sucked into cyber
limbo, because i never saw it come through.  my advance apologies if it
resurfaces...

anyway, my trip to san francisco yielded some interesting finds in the cd
dept., and even with my limited funds, i still picked up some stuff.  there
were two cd stores in berkeley (rasputin's and amoeba) where i picked this
stuff up - all in the clearance area.

* reversing hour - life without television (haven't played it yet - one
some is also on honor 1.  i got it as an experiment pretty much and it was
only $3.95 - promo)
* the rock-a-teens - self titled (another experiment that i haven't
listened to yet, and it was only $2.95 - promo)
*merril bainbridge - the garden (recognized the name from the list, paid
only $1.95 - promo, haven't heard it yet)
*big fish ensemble - i hate parties (although a & e sing on "animal", i do
not care for this cd at all! - good thing it was only $2.95 - promo)
* new mongrels- not dead (yet) (like this one and it was only $2.95)
* sweet relief ii (need to listen to this again)
* loudon wainwright iii - grown man (contains the song "i wish i was a
lesbian", which cracks me up)

at one of the cd store there were two ig albums that looked to be in good
shape ( i think strange fire and self-titled) for about $5 each.  i'm not
into vinyl, so were still there when i left.  there was also a danielle
howle cd, but i have it.   it was a good thing i didn't have more money or
i would definitely have less now.  i could have spent hours in these
stores.  have to go back.

and yes, san francisco, was fun as well (rode trolley car, went to wharf,
coit tower, saw vertigo at castro theater, haight-ashbury scene,
presido.......not enough time or money to do it all - maybe next time).

betsy (who threatened people, who asked for a souvenir, with rice-a-roni)

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                    then we sing the common call.....
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subject:      thanks (nigc)

hi,
i'm andi's roommate dana and i was just writing to thank all of you who
sent me those cheering get well letters. that was so nice and i got more
letters from you guys than from my friends. i think you guys are really
cool and while i'm not an indigo girls expert, andi has made me not be able
to go a day without listening to them. sorry i couldn't write to you all
seperately but i'm still not feeling 100% : ( .
thanks again to everyone!          dana

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subject:      trivia winners...

wow, i got so many responses to the most recent trivia question...

it was, "which two lines from two emily songs did amy say that she didn't
want to sing when she first heard them?"

i decided to listen to shades of indigo, where shawn colvin interviews
a&e...that's where they answer the question...i typed out the part about my
trivia question...

<snip>
e: our lyrics are so different.  we don't approach our...we don't think the
same way a lot of times.
a: she may use words that i don't even know exactly what they mean, you
know, specifically to her.
e: or, like, amy will say, well, what about this line, you know, like, what
do you mean here?  there's a new song, hammer and a nail.  it's about
thinking too much and, and not thinking too much, and starting to take
action and stuff like that.  and there's a line in it that goes, "i had a
lot of good intentions.  sit around for fifty years and then collect a
pension," and amy's like, "i'm not sure i want to sing that line."
a: cause i never felt that way.
e: she never feels that way, you know, and she...
a: i mean i never even, it never ocurred to me, even thinking that way.
and it, did it occur to you?
e: well, it was just, it's a way to describe it...
a: alright, i don't want to work with you anymore.
e: yeah, a way to describe a state of mind.  but anyway, that's an example
of what goes on, it's not like we just...
s: so she sort of challenged you on that line, not that that you had no
right to say it, but she just wasn't sure if she...
a: well, closer to fine is another example.  when you said, "it's only life
after all," i, that struck me as being incredibly blase about something
that was so sacred to me because i'm a little more serious about sometimes.
i'm not as good as being light, you know.  and then i understood what she
meant better...
e: well, we're, but we both feel life is sacred in the same, you know...
a: right, so after i sort of studied the song, i realized, like, what she
was saying.  it just, like, i didn't hear anthing else, in the, when she
sung it, the only thing i heard her say was, "it's only life after all."
and my ears were, like, deaf to everything else, cause i was like, "how can
you say that?" cause i was, like, in a serious mood probably or something.
e: blasphamy.
s: so, but eventually, it, it...
a: oh, yeah, i love, i love it.
e: so, on this new line, i said, "well, you just don't sing this one line
then.  i'll sing it."
a: and i do sing it though.
<snip>

so i have too much free time. :)

in case you missed it, the lines were "i had a lot of good intentions.  sit
around for fifty years and then collect a pension," from h&an, & "it's only
life after all," from ctf.

congratulations to:

joe <fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>, trant <twb@zycor.lgc.com>, pat
<pooh40@mc.net>, alan <alanf@dorje.com>, jonny <wuman@warwick.net>, amy
<amytryon@phoenix.princeton.edu>, larin <lmclaugh@u.washington.edu>,
veronica <vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu>, jen <jlucero@monmouth.com>, chris
<guinione@aol.com>, melissa <anderson@biostat.washington.edu>, catherine
<cath@efn.org>, and margot <margotll@aol.com>!  they win an indigo day!

marianne <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>, denise <deng@vnet.ibm.com>, and michael
<asl@umcs.maine.edu> get half-credit...so they win half an indigo day.

and the two extra special prizes go to...vivki c. & my bf!!!  ;)

i hope i remembered everyone there!

look for more trivia soon...

andi

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                          but it's alright."-es
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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      sound files replacing tape trees?

i don't know if anyone has brought this up before, but i had kind of a
strange idea today and wanted some opinions. some of us have the
capability to turn audio recordings into sound files that can be
downloaded onto a computer. i was wondering, what if we took our boots we
love so much and turned them into sound files, effectively making that
our tape tree. it would save some of us a lot of money. however, i wasn't
sure what a & e's feelings or daemon's feelings on this would be. what do
you guys think?

jen

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subject:      nigc! nigc!! scams (fwd)

hey y'all,
just a warning.
happy thursday,
love,
karey


---------- forwarded message ----------
fyi:

>809 area code scams are running rampant.  please read and tell customers

>and friend.

>

>the scam works basically like this:

>

>you get home and notice that the message light is blinking >on

>your answering machine.  you listen to the message, which >has

>several wrinkles, but the best one is the caller asks you >to

>call a number beginning with area code 809 to receive

>information about a family member who has been ill.  (they may

>also tell you someone has been arrested, died, you have won a

>wonderful prize, etc.)

>

>in any event, concerned or curious, you make the call.

>sometimes the phone will be answered by a person who claims to

>speak broken english.  (the idea is to keep you on the line to

>build up charges.)  or, sometimes you will just get a long

>recorded message.  the bottom lines is, when your phone bill

>comes, you see this incredible charge, oftentimes more than

>$100.00 dollars!

>

>crooks are using the 809 numbers as "pay-per-calls" and to get

>around the us regulations and 900 number blocking.  every time

>you call the number, they get a greatly inflated rebate from

>the foreign phone company.  since the 809 numbers are in the

>caribbean, they aren't bound by us 900# regulations that

>require them to warn you of the charge and rate involved, and

>also to provide a time period during which you may terminate

>the call without being charged.

>

>the newest twist to this scam is to page people using the 809

>numbers.  with the new area code changes, people unknowingly

>are returning these calls.  when the bill comes, there are

>huge charges for the calls.

>

>my suggestion is that no matter how you get the message, if

>you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you

>don't recognize,  don't return the call!  it's bad enough that

>the criminal is invading your privacy, don't let them invade

>you wallet as well!

>

>scams of this type are extremely hard to prosecute and since

>you did actually make the call, neither your local phone

>company or your long distance carrier will want to get

>involved.  they'll tell you that they are simply providing

>the billing for the foreign company.  you end up trying to

>deal (over the phone) with a foreign company that feels they

>have done no wrong.  it can turn into a real nightmare!

>

>another e-mail scam has appeared, informing you as a would-be victim

>that

>you have "only 24 hours to settle your outstanding account" and

>suggesting

>that you can call an 809 number to avoid subsequent court action.  the

>call goes to a caribbean telephone company (apparently in tortola in the

>british virgin islands) and costs you $3 to $5 (and presumably more if

>you are

>dumb enough to hang around for their strategy of putting you on hold

>with a

>sequence of creative recorded messages).  the from: address "global

>communications"@demon.net is bogus.  this is a cheaper variant on a

>recent

>809-900 pager scam, which costs you $25 if you return the call.

>

>please fwd this msg to friends and let people be aware of it!

>

>>[source: *san francisco chronicle*, 3 oct 1996, a2.]

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subject:      new shirts

i have come out of lurk mode to ask....how much are the new shirts and what
do they look like??? i want one....pls let me know here or in pvt. muchas
gracias!!!

kel

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pj said:
>
> so my question is where do people go that they want to or do sing/listen
> to/play world falls?  does the beauty keep shaking you, too?

(this is me, mellow and happy): yeah, totally.  the beauty shakes the
hell out of me all the time.  on my birthday last month i was going to
post about this same thing, because it was so great.  i live in northern
california, just south of the oregon border, on the coast, basically in
the backyard of the redwood forest.  like or and wa it rains a lot here,
and when it's not raining it's cloudy.  it had been cloudy for about 2
weeks before my birthday, and on the day of my birthday i woke up and it
was gorgeous and sunny out (i had wished for this to happen before i went
to bed the night before).  it was one of those full-heart moments and
world falls was bursting from my seams all day long.  this morning i
didn't want to get out of bed, until i looked out my window and saw the
clouds in the east lit up fiery orange-red by the pre-dawn sun.  i got
dreams of immortality.....

the lone coyote
=)

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sorry for more nigc, i'll make this really short.  just wanted to add
that i vote for "loved it"--didn't make me cry, but probably because i
already knew how it would end (gee, how'd i know?)  but really, i've been
trying to keep my mouth shut because i don't want to sound like i'm
bragging but really i'm just bragging to myself cuz i'm starstruck, other
people probably don't care, but in case anyone does, i went to elementary
school with leonardo dicaprio.  there it's out, i've said it.  sorry, it
had to be done.

thanks for putting up with me.
the lone coyote (another california crackhead--not really)

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subject:      ig faq part 1 of 3

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indigo girls: frequently asked questions
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version 3.0
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part 1 of 3
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last modified: 7 november 1996.

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table of contents
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[part 1]
1. history / biography
2. where to find information about indigo girls
3. questions about amy and emily
4. general questions about indigo girls' music

[part 2]
5. discography related questions
6. questions about album covers and titles
7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"

[part 3]
11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
12. other song related questions
13. recent indigo girls news
14. miscellaneous questions
15. acknowledgements


1. history / biography
======================

emily saliers was born in new haven, connecticut on july 22nd, 1963.
the following year, her future musical partner amy ray was born in
atlanta, on april 12th, 1964.  when emily was in sixth grade, her
family moved to decatur, georgia.  she was enrolled in laurel ridge
elementary school where amy was attending fifth grade.  when amy and
emily were both in high school, they began playing together under the
names "saliers and ray" and "the b-band".  their first rehearsals
were for a school talent show.  later the two progressed to playing
open mike nights at local bars, despite being underage.  in 1981, the
b-band recorded a tape called "tuesday's children" in amy's basement.
the tape consisted mostly of cover songs, with an additional original
song from each of them.

when emily graduated from high school she enrolled at tulane
university in new orleans, majoring in english.  amy moved to
nashville a year later to study english and religion at vanderbilt
university.  dissatisfied with life away at school, both emily and
amy moved back to atlanta to attend emory university in 1984, and the
two resumed playing together regularly.  in 1985 they adopted the
name "indigo girls".  amy picked the word "indigo" out of the
dictionary because she thought it sounded "cool".  that same year,
indigo girls made their recording debut with an independently
released 7" single "crazy game"/"everyone's waiting (for someone to
come home)", and a mostly-live cassette called "blue food".  at
around the same time, amy also recorded a solo tape "color me grey",
which included an early version of her song "nashville".

in 1986, indigo girls released a self-titled six-track ep which was
produced by frank french and engineered by kristen hall.  local
atlanta musicians who contributed to the record included dede vogt,
michelle malone and caroline aiken.  at around this time, amy and
emily met their future manager russell carter who told them that he
didn't see indigo girls getting a record deal because their songs
were "immature".  nevertheless, the next year amy and emily went on
to record their first full length album "strange fire" and took
russell on as manager soon after.

indigo girls were signed to epic records in 1988.  "indigo girls",
their first major-label album, was released in february 1989.  guest
artists on the album included rem, hothouse flowers and luka bloom.
"closer to fine", the first single, peaked at #52 on the billboard
chart.  the album reached as high as #22, remained in the chart for
35 weeks, and was certified gold in september of 1989.  "strange
fire" was re-released by epic in november 1989 with a rearranged
track listing.  an early version of "blood and fire" and emily's
"high horse" were dropped, and the two songs were replaced by a cover
of the youngbloods' "get together".  also that year, "indigo girls"
won a grammy award in the category "best contemporary folk
recording".  the duo was also nominated for a grammy award in the
category "best new artist".

"live at the uptown lounge", a 60-minute concert/interview video
filmed in athens, georgia, was released in january 1990.
"nomads*indians*saints", indigo girls' second epic album, was
released that september.  the album featured guest appearances by
mary chapin carpenter, bassist sara lee and ellen james society, an
atlanta rock band.  the first single from the album, "hammer and a
nail", was nominated for a grammy award in the category "best
contemporary folk recording".  during that year, amy also started her
own independent record label, daemon records.

"back on the bus, y'all", an eight-song ep recorded live in concert
at notre dame university, west georgia college and the uptown lounge,
was released in june 1991 and was nominated for a grammy award in the
category "best contemporary folk album".  in december 1991,
"nomads*indians*saints" was certified gold, and "indigo girls" was
certified platinum, almost three years after its release.

"rites of passage" was released in may 1992.  the album debuted at
#22 on the billboard album chart.  that september it was certified
gold after spending twelve weeks on the chart.  among the guest
artists on "rites of passage" were jackson browne, david crosby,
drummer jerry marotta, and the roche sisters.

amy and emily went into the studio in november 1993 to begin
recording "swamp ophelia".  in january 1994, the soundtrack to the
movie "philadelphia" was released, including indigo girls' cover of
danny whitten's "i don't wanna talk about it".  in march indigo girls
began filming for the movie "boys on the side" which starred whoopi
goldberg, mary louise parker and drew barrymore.  "swamp ophelia",
which featured appearances by jane siberry, cellist jane scarpantoni,
and amy's father larry ray, was released in may of 1994.  it debuted
at #9 on the billboard album chart and six weeks later, in june, was
certified gold.  later that year, "swamp ophelia" was also nominated
for a grammy award in the category "best contemporary folk
recording".  amy and emily also took part that year in an
atlanta-based revival of andrew lloyd webber's musical "jesus christ
superstar" with emily playing mary magdalene and amy taking the part
of jesus.

the "best of" album "4.5" was released outside the us in july 1995.
in october of that year, the live album "1200 curfews" was released.
the album featured choice performances selected from concert tapes by
amy and emily themselves, and some rarer material such as "back
together again" from the early b-band tape.  the video compilation
"watershed" was released at the same time.   "watershed" contained
all the song videos which had been made up to that point, plus
additional exclusive concert, interview and home video footage.

after having toured for more than a year to support "swamp ophelia"
and the honor the earth campaign, amy and emily decided to take a
break and spend mid-1995 to mid-1996 off the road.  during this time
indigo girls made only infrequent live appearances such as at the
newport folk festival in august 1995, new orleans jazz festival in
may 1996, and at gay pride in atlanta in june 1996.  the 1996 newport
folk festival saw the start of a 3-week "practice tour".  indigo
girls went into the studio in september to begin pre-production on
their new album "map".  also during september 1996, "swamp ophelia"
was certified platinum.

as of this moment, indigo girls are beginning to record "map" in
atlanta, austin and nashville.  the new album will hopefully be ready
for release by around march 1997.


2. where to find information about indigo girls
===============================================

- is there an address where i can write to the indigo girls, or an
        official fan club or mailing list?

to write to amy or emily, or to join the indigo girls fan club, write
to:     indigo girls
        c/o russell carter management
        315 west ponce de leon avenue
        suite 755
        decatur
        georgia usa 30030

the fan club sends out newsletters containing merchandise
information, tour schedules and other official information several
times a year.


- where can i find information about indigo girls on the internet?

there are indigo girls resources of many types on the internet.
here are a few of them:
    - indigo girls mailing list: indigo-girls@netspace.org
        to subscribe, send a message to listserv@netspace.org with
        "subscribe indigo-girls" in the body of the message.
    - indigo girls usenet newsgroup: alt.music.indigo-girls
    - lifeblood www site: http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood
    - sony music indigo girls site:
        http://www.music.sony.com/music/artistinfo/indigogirls.html
    - indigo girls discography:
        http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists
                                          /discographies/indigo_girls

more links can be found by using one of the many search engines
available on the www such as lycos (http://www.lycos.com) or yahoo
(http://www.yahoo.com).


3. questions about amy and emily
================================

- when were amy and emily born?

amy - 12 april 1964;
emily - 22 july 1963.


- what are amy and emily's middle names?

amy's middle name is elizabeth; emily's is ann.


- do amy and emily have brothers and sisters?

both amy and emily come from four-children families.  amy has two
older sisters and a younger brother; emily is the second-eldest of
four girls.


- are amy and emily christian?

when asked about their religious beliefs in a 1990 interview in the
cooper point journal, school paper of evergreen state college, amy
said, "we were brought up methodist.  i was a religion major and
emily's dad is a methodist minister and a theology professor.  but we
don't consider our songs geared toward christianity.  we consider
them geared toward a spirituality that no matter what faith you have,
you can relate to them.  we don't want to alienate anybody because we
don't believe in seeing specifically through one faith.  so it plays
a big part in our music but not in the way that some christians would
want it to play."


- are amy and emily gay?  have they been involved with each other?

amy and emily are both openly gay although in the past they have not
always been identified as such by the mainstream media.

in the 1996 newport folk festival program amy states, "i always think
of [emily] as the perfect best friend.  i guess one of the reasons
we've always been like this is that we've always had the same kind of
relationship.  the nature of it never changed - we never had a sexual
encounter - we never had a real conflict - we were always just
completely friends."


- what does amy's tattoo mean?

amy explained the tattoo in "fashion" magazine (circa 1989): "this is
spiritual, and it's blue for charity; this is compassion; this is
intellectual grounding; this is the love of the earth; this is the
center of the soul..."

niki pantelias, founder of the original indigo girls mailing list,
also reported in a november 1990 posting to the list that amy had
said that the tattoo was the sioux indian symbol for love inside a
hand, and "basically it means love".


- who are amy and emily's musical influences?

amy has been influenced by artists such as the replacements, husker
du and neil young; emily has stated that her biggest songwriting
influence was joni mitchell and that her literary inspirations
include the writings of virginia woolf.  both amy and emily have
said they have been influenced by bob dylan and also profess
admiration for jane siberry and ferron.  in addition, they both enjoy
reading the works of william faulkner.


4. general questions about indigo girls' music
==============================================

- who is in the indigo girls touring band?

amy and emily often tour as a duo, but also perform with a backing
band.  for the past two years the steady support crew for indigo
girls has been:
    - sara lee - bass, pennywhistle, vocals
    - jerry marotta - percussion, pennywhistle, saxophone, vocals

other guests who have appeared on occasion include:
    - caroline aiken - guitar, vocals
    - gail ann dorsey - vocals
    - sheila doyle of big fish ensemble - violin
    - sandy garfinkle - harmonica, vocals
    - kristen hall - guitar, vocals
    - michael lorant of big fish ensemble - percussion, vocals,
        saxophone
    - michelle malone - mandolin, electric guitar, vocals
    - barbara marino - saxophone
    - scarlet rivera - violin
    - jane scarpantoni - cello, pennywhistle


- what other music appears in the background of indigo girls
        songs?

in addition to their own unique harmonies, indigo girls have also
integrated other tunes into their music.  these include:
    - "mary had a little lamb" at the beginning of the guitar solo in
        "center stage", also hummed softly as amy sings "a joker's
        dance before the king"
    - a hymn, "let us break bread", at the end of "hammer and a nail"
    - "twinkle twinkle little star" in "world falls", as amy sings
        "i'm laughing..."
    - beethoven's "ode to joy", as part of the guitar solo in "cedar
        tree"

other music which amy and emily have incorporated into their songs
include a chopin nocturne at the end of "this train revised" and the
native american hymn emily sings at the end of "jonas and ezekial".


- have amy and emily ever written any songs together, or with other
        people?

amy and emily generally write separately and then collaborate on the
harmonies and instrumental arrangements of their songs.  however,
there are a few songs that they've written together:
    - "i don't know your name" from "blue food" (1985)
    - "if you live like that" from "blue food" (1985)
    - "blood quantum" from "honor1: a benefit for the honor the
        earth campaign" (1996)

songs that they have written with other people include:
    - "i don't wanna know" by amy and michelle malone
    - "i'll give you my skin" from "tame yourself" (1991), by amy,
        emily and michael stipe
    - "1 2 3" by amy and the members of ellen james society

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date:         fri, 8 nov 1996 11:12:52 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      new ig faq and new mailing list faq

hi everyone,

just to let you know that there is a new indigo girls faq, as well as
a new list faq available.  they've both been created by a group of
wonderful people - deb reiser, chris becker, jen lucero and dwayne
jarrell.  oh yeah, and me too. :)  i'd like to thank deb, chris, jen and
dwayne for all their hard work, and also to thank everyone else who's
helped out with the project, especially jude, carolyn, amy, anna,
susan and greg.  thank you all!  it was truly a group effort, not to
mention a lot of fun.

i will be posting both faqs to the list directly for everyone to look at,
and the ig faq will also be sent to the newsgroup soon (no need for
anyone else to do it, thanks).  they are both also available on the
www at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig, or by anonymous ftp at
space.mit.edu/pub/cmb/ig.

best to all, (look chris, i'm pushing the button :) -
sherlyn

=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=
      "i'm not making a joke - you know me,
       i take *everything* so seriously..."
                        - emily saliers
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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 15:38:33 -0800
reply-to:     bonster@franklin01.u.washington.edu
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from:         bonster@franklin01.u.washington.edu
subject:      from the librarian:

sorry, i don't recall who posed the initial query:

>> gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good
>>suggestions for inclusion in a high school lit class. >>
>
>i can't remembe the name of the book, i'll bring it with me next week
>(since i won't be here friday-sun) but there is a very good anthology of
>gay literature out by i think, harper collins. about $15 or so. it's a
>collection of gay literature, not really lesbian i'm afraid but as short

here's one:

in another part of the forest : an anthology of gay short fiction / [edited
by] alberto manguel and craig stephenson. new york : crown trade paperbacks,
1994.
isbn 0-517-88156-x
price $20, but i got it on the discount table for about $5

some of the contributors:
sherwood anderson
james baldwin
ann beattie
marie-claire blais
truman capote
john cheever
william faulkner
e.m. forster
graham greene
ernest hemingway
w.p. kinsella
alice munro
tennessee williams

hope this is helpful :)

ig content: the other day i was at work (the other place i go when i'm not
at school or keeping the neighboorhood bar stools warm) and i was cataloging
videotapes when i came across thornton creek watershed (at least i think it
was thornton creek, but the name of the creek isn't important, though i
guess it might be to the fish that call it home. but i digress...) anyway, i
unconsciously burst into song (uh, watershed, of course). loudly. very
loudly. thankfully, no one else was in the room. it could have been very
embarassing because i can't sing. my voice is so bad that i keep the windows
of my car rolled up when i have ig in the tape deck. which is almost always.
no, i don't have air conditioning. but hey, aren't ig worth those little
armpit perspiration rings?

i think i've overstayed my welcome.
-bon

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indigo girls: frequently asked questions
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version 3.0
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last modified: 7 november 1996.

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table of contents
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[part 2]
5. discography related questions
6. questions about album covers and titles
7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"


5. discography related questions
================================

- what songs have been released as singles?

to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
commercially available single in the us is "power of two".  however,
various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
for more details.


- what songs have been made into videos, and where can i get them?

so far indigo girls have made nine commercial song videos.  these
are:
    - "closer to fine" (1989)
    - "hammer and a nail" (1990)
    - "get together" (1990)
    - "joking" (1992)
    - "galileo" (1992)
    - "touch me fall" (1994)
    - "least complicated" (1994)
    - "power of two" (1995)
    - "bury my heart at wounded knee" (1995)

all these videos, except the video for "bury my heart at wounded
knee", can be found on the video compilation "watershed", available
from sony music video.


- what songs have indigo girls covered?  where do they appear?

covers available on commercially available items, excluding the
albums, include:
    - "american tune" by paul simon, on "turn of the decade:
        1989-1990 ben & jerry's newport folk festival" (1991)
    - "cortez the killer" by neil young (performed with band de
        soleil), on band de soleil's album "redemption dream"
        (european version only) (1995)
    - "don't think twice, it's alright" by bob dylan (performed with
        joan baez), on joan baez's album "ring them bells" (1995);
    - "free of hope" by vic chesnutt, on "sweet relief ii: gravity of
        the situation" (1996)
    - "i don't wanna talk about it" by danny whitten, on
        "philadelphia: music from the motion picture" (1993);
    - "it won't take long" by ferron, on "spirit of '73: rock for
        choice" (1995)
    - "rockin' in the free world" by neil young (performed with k's
        choice), on the "power of two" single (1995)
    - "uncle john's band" by robert hunter and jerry garcia, on
        "deadicated" (a tribute to the grateful dead) (1991)
    - "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by rand bishop, on "put
        on your green shoes" (an album of children's songs aimed at
        raising environmental awareness) (1993)

covers available on promotional items and rare recordings include:
    - "finlandia" by jean sibelius, on the "indigo girls" ep (1986)
    - "love of the common people" by j. hurley and r. wilkens, on
        "reverse 1 - live" (1989)
    - "melissa" by the allman brothers, on "shades of indigo" (1990)
    - "mona lisas and mad hatters" by elton john and bernie taupin,
        on "reverse 1 - live" (1989)
    - "the water is wide" (traditional), on "an acoustic evening with
        the allman brothers band and the indigo girls" (1992)
    - "the weakness in me" by joan armatrading, on "blue food" (1985)

covers which are sometimes performed live, but which have never
officially been released, include:
    - "southern man" by neil young, performed with kristen hall
    - "white house blues" and "another on the rise", both by
        caroline aiken, performed with caroline aiken
    - "wild horses" by the rolling stones, performed with michelle
        malone

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.


- what compilations do indigo girls appear on?

indigo girls songs have appeared on many compilation albums,
including:
    - "american tune" (live) on "turn of the decade: 1989-1990 ben &
        jerry's newport folk festival" (1991)
    - "i'll give you my skin" (studio) on "tame yourself" (1991)
    - "uncle john's band" (studio) on "deadicated" (1991)
    - "i don't wanna talk about it" (studio) on "philadelphia: music
        from the motion picture" (1993)
    - "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" (studio) on "put on your
        green shoes" (1993)
    - "it won't take long" (studio) on "spirit of '73: rock for
        choice" (1995)
    - "blood quantum" (studio) on "honor1: a benefit for the honor
        the earth campaign" (1996)
    - "free of hope" (studio) on "sweet relief ii: gravity of the
        situation" (1996)

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.


- what albums by other artists do amy and emily appear on?

amy and emily have appeared, both together and separately, as guest
artists on many albums.  these include:
    - "live at the attic" by caroline aiken (1993), both
    - "ring them bells" by joan baez (1995), both
    - "billy pilgrim" by billy pilgrim (1994), emily
    - "come on, come on" by mary chapin carpenter (1992), both
    - "disappear fear" by disappear fear (1994), both
    - "phantom center" by ferron (1995 re-release only), both
    - "still riot" by ferron (1996), emily
    - "flyer" by nanci griffith (1994), both
    - "real life stuff" by kristen hall (1990), emily
    - "fact and fiction" by kristen hall (1991), emily
    - "be careful what you wish for" by kristen hall (1994), emily
    - "more than i" by gerard mchugh (1992), both

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.


6. questions about album covers and titles
==========================================

- who are the people in the photograph on the "strange fire" insert?

the photograph was taken at the little five points pub in atlanta.
the people in the picture are amy's and emily's families, the manager
and staff of the pub and, in the back, the musicians who played on
the album.  there are also photographs of family members who couldn't
be there that day on some of the tables.


- what does "swamp ophelia" mean?

while on vacation in florida, amy went on a nature walk and saw a
plant called swampophilia.  in a 1994 interview she said, "it made
me think of hamlet and ophelia and the swamp.  but it all kind of
mixes in together."  however, there does not actually seem to be a
plant called swampophilia; it's possible that the phrase came
entirely from amy's imagination.


- what does "4.5" mean?

the album was originally going to contain material from the november
1994 concerts at shepherd's bush empire in london.  the band for
these shows consisted of amy, emily, jerry marotta and sara lee; gail
ann dorsey also sat in on a few songs.  the title was meant to
represent the number of band members.  because gail hadn't played
through the entire show, the album's working title was "four and a
half".  graphically it was decided that "4.5" looked better so that
became the title, even though no material from the concerts was used
on the album in the end.


- what does "1200 curfews" mean?

"1200 curfews" stands for "twelve hundred curfews", rather than
"twelve o'clock curfews".  this refers to the fact that indigo girls
had played approximately 1200 concerts between the start of their
career and the time the album was released.  each concert had a
curfew, to which amy and emily were often running close.  as amy says
after "closer to fine" on the album, "we've gotta go, we've got a
curfew!"


7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
============================================

- what is strange fire?

as in all indigo girls songs, specific symbolism is left as an open
question.  for example, some believe strange fire is a reference to
the christian celebration of "pentecost" (the empowerment of the 12
apostles by the holy spirit), while others see a reference to milton.
there are countless interpretations; however, most center about a
common theme, that of an ineffable spirit which can strengthen and
actuate those who possess it.


- what does "you remind me of shalott" mean?

although she admits to misspelling the name in the lyrics, emily is
referring to alfred lord tennyson's poem "the lady of shalott".  in
the poem, shallot was a mythical island which lay upriver from king
arthur's camelot.  a curse lay upon the lady of shallot that some
unknown fate would befall her should she look outside the castle.
so, she stayed within her walls and wove "a magic web with colours
gay" through which she watched the world.  one day sir lancelot came
riding down the riverbank by the castle.  the lady spied him in her
magic web and, drawn to him, left her loom and looked out through her
window.  the poem ends with the body of the lady, slain by her curse,
floating down the river through camelot in a boat.


- who is talking at the end of "i don't wanna know"?

amy and michelle malone.  it is very hard to make out what they are
saying although at one point it does sound like michelle is saying,
"i can't talk to y'all, i gotta go," or something along those lines.


8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
============================================

- what is "secure yourself" about?

"secure yourself" is about the spiritual journey into heaven.  the
song was inspired by amy's grief when one of her cats died.


- what is "kid fears" about?

"kid fears" is about the music industry and about refusing to "sell
out".  in an interview in the washington times in january 1989, amy
said, "'how much further' is about reaching it in the music business.
it's sort of a cut down on people who are just trying to make it,
people who would sell their soul, who would sell out, who would do
anything."


- why doesn't amy sing "blood and fire" anymore?

"blood and fire" is a very intense and emotional song and amy does
not perform it anymore because she does not want to revisit the
feelings that went into writing (and performing) the song.  she has
stated that if she were to sing the song now, it would be dishonest.


9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
=====================================================

- who is sejarez?

sejarez, whom amy mentions in "world falls", is not a real person; he
was a character (possibly some kind of philosopher) that appeared in
one of amy's dreams.


- is "pushing the needle too far" about drugs?

in the "nomads*indians*saints" press kit amy said, "this song deals
with alienation and the way we sometimes numb ourselves to things.
obviously, the needle suggests a drug analogy, but it's also like the
needle on a meter.  but it's a symbol, not a literal usage like neil
young's 'the needle and the damage done'.  it's about the things
people do to numb themselves to the pain of their situation."


- what is "the girl with the weight of the world in her hands" about?

emily has stated that this song is not about any person in
particular.  in the "nomads*indians*saints" songbook she writes, "the
bottom line is, we never know what someone is really going through
inside.  the loneliest people are those we tend to avoid the most.
this is about wanting to overcome that feeling in myself and trying
to get closer to someone in that situation, someone i might usually
shy away from."


10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"
=================================================

- what is "three hits" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit, amy explained the inspiration
for the song.  "'three hits' was inspired by the poems of frank
stanford.  a music friend of mine sent me a book of his poetry, 'the
light the dead see', and i went crazy over it - it changed my life a
little.  i was reading some biographical notes on stanford and
learned that he'd committed suicide in the early 80's at age 30 - he
shot himself three times in the heart.  that image really stuck with
me.  so i used images from his poems and his life: that he was
adopted, that he left his wife behind..."


- what is "jonas and ezekial" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit amy said, "we played dartmouth
college and met some real free thinkers up there.  i took a long bike
ride on highway 5, on the border of new hampshire and vermont, and
this song uses references from that and from earlier road trips -
things i heard in conversation, things from the news... it's a
political song about people who put their faith in prophesy, who're
walking toward disaster instead of doing anything about it."

jonas and ezekial are names that amy saw on tombstones in a slave
cemetery.  they are possibly also references to the biblical
characters of the same name (although the names are spelt differently
in different translations of the bible).


- who is the "activist with a very short life" mentioned in "jonas
        and ezekial"?

amy is referring to bob sheldon, the owner of internationalist books
in chapel hill, north carolina.  sheldon was an active anti-war
activist at the time of desert shield and desert storm.  he was shot
while alone in his store on february 21, 1991.


- what is emily singing at the end of "jonas and ezekial"?

emily sings, "now i walk in beauty / beauty is before me / beauty is
behind me / above and below me."  the words are from a native
american song that is usually sung in a round.


- who wrote "romeo and juliet", and where can i find the original
        version?

"romeo and juliet" was written by mark knopfler of dire straits and
can be found on their 1987 album "making movies".

in a november 1994 interview, amy said that she had learned a lot of
the songs from "making movies".  "i used to play in a hotel lounge.
i thought ['romeo and juliet'] was an incredibly well written song
and i could relate to it at the time for some reason. it just kinda
grew and changed over the years."  at the time, she said she had
never spoken to mark about the song and said, "i wouldn't even want
to know what he thinks."


- who is the chickenman?

in the "rites of passage" press kit amy said, "this is a real
person, an older guy who lives in a trailer in the middle of this
junkyard off the highway somewhere between houston and austin.
there's a big sign that says 'chicken man'.  it looks like
everything's for sale, but you'll ask about something and he'll say,
'oh that's not for sale.'  we got into a conversation, and some of
his values and ideas seemed incredibly comforting to me at the time.
it was the way he'd look out over this piece of land and take such
pride and satisfaction in this collection of junk!  this guy was
deep, he had layers of character underneath that rough skin and dirt.
'chickenman' is really a stream-of-consciousness type song."


- what is the extra verse amy sings in the middle of the live version
        of "chickenman"?

recent live versions of "chickenman" have been varied by the addition
of extra lyrics before the third verse ("i was on the road to
austin...").  the extra lyrics are:
    - "hear the shotgun shiver / another arrow from the quiver"
    - "screwed up boys and argentinians / europe shed the blood of
        the indians /  here i sit in the land of plenty / crying
        about my own virginity / hey blue blood you're nothing new /
        you see i come from privilege too / chapter in the book on
        the americas / we're just another colonial terrorist"

amy has inserted one or both of these lyrics on different occasions.


- what is "nashville" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit, amy explained the song's origin.
"this is a song from 1984 which never exactly fit in with an album
before.  i wrote it when i was in college at vanderbilt university,
not exactly a hotbed of liberalism.  in fact, there were some very
racist and sexist things happening on that campus, and i found the
city reflected those same qualities to an extent... as a songwriter
trying to be heard, i found it extremely competitive and oppressive.
as a southerner, i feel free to criticize from 'within the family'.
i could say some of the same things about atlanta that i'm saying
here about nashville."


- what is "cedar tree" about?

on the 1992 "general foods international house session" promotional
cd amy says, "i was walking around up in north georgia, in the
mountains, and i came upon this settlement from the 1830's and there
were all these cedar trees planted around these old chimneys.  and a
friend of my father's said that back in those days a husband would
plant a tree for every wife he'd had and so i wrote a song about it,
'cause there were bunch of trees up there."

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>  argh! i told the truth, how it was at that point, but i am so sick of people
> categorizing music, of all things!  music is one thing that reaches across
> divisions and makes people happy, why do people have to stick labels to
> that????
> argh!  ~katy

the reason people make those kinds of comments is so we have a chance to
enlighten them!  seriously, we all learn from each other.  i remember
being shocked and feeling pretty foolish when i was a teenager who thought
i was pretty well enlightened; two of my very close friends at the time
came out to me after about a year, and i had almost no clue prior to that
that they might be gay.  when i asked them why they had taken so long to
tell me, it turned out to be because i had made some comments that made
them unsure how i would react.  i couldn't believe it!  i thought i was
super-open-minded and all that good pc stuff, in my naievete and the
infinite wisdom of my tender years!  it taught me a very powerful lesson,
though.

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table of contents
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[part 3]
11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
12. other song related questions
13. recent indigo girls news
14. miscellaneous questions
15. acknowledgements


11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
==============================================

- what is "fugitive" about?

in a 1994 interview amy explained, "'fugitive' is... kind of a love
song, but it's also, you know, it's very abstract.  it's me, the
struggle within myself and the struggle with someone else to create
commitment in a world of this - of the music industry, which is
really kind of screwy.  and the idea of invading privacy and - it's
about freedom, really, and about the ability to be free."


- what are they saying at the end of "least complicated"?

the conversation is mostly obscured by percussion; however, emily can
clearly be heard saying, "that's the way i can feel it."  amy's reply
is hard to make out; it sounds as though she is saying, "but you
don't want..."


- what is "language or the kiss" about?

emily has never directly explained this song, but the common
consensus among fans is that this song is about choices.  more
specifically, that it is about having to choose between a musical
career, especially one that involves a lot of touring ("language"),
and a "normal" life at home with family and loved ones ("the kiss").


- what is "reunion" about?

at a concert in philadelphia on march 12, 1994, amy said, "i went to
my high school reunion about a year and a half ago... it was a weird
and ambivalent experience, because i had actually had a good time in
high school and emily didn't.  so i went expecting the best and... i
had this friend, sort of, that i went around with.  every time i
would go up to someone and give 'em a hug or shake their hand or
something, my friend would take me over to the side of the room and
say, 'you know, that person you just hugged over there, they hated
you in high school and made fun of you every day.'  and i was like,
'shit!'  so i just learned - i chalked it up to experience and felt
like it didn't really matter and i could be friends with anybody
anyway.  so this is a song about faith in yourself."


- what does "all skate, now reverse" mean?

on the may 12, 1994 broadcast of "world cafe" amy said, "some friends
of ours, mrs fun... were the guest band on the record.  they went to
see a friend of theirs play who used to... you know when you're at
the skating rink and they go 'all skate, now reverse'... i was just
saying it and we stuck it before ['touch me fall'] because we thought
it represented what the song was doing."


- what is "touch me fall" about?

when asked in 1994 about the meaning of "touch me fall", amy replied,
"it is very abstract.  i don't think it is easy to understand the
meaning of it because i don't really either.  i just kind of let it
all come out.  it is sort of about decomposition in general.
decomposition of love, life and fame.  everything.  it is the beauty
of decomposition and i am tying it into the fall, meaning the
season."


- what are they saying near the end of "touch me fall"?

amy is saying, over and over again, the lyrics from the chorus:
"watch me let you down / if i stumble, i will stumble / if i fall, i
will fall / trying to hold it like rain in a river / everything is
getting bigger / better, can't hold it forever..."


- what is being sung at the beginning of "mystery"?

"handed down or made by hand."


- is larry ray, who sings on "dead man's hill", related to amy?

larry ray sr. is amy's father.


- what is "dead man's hill" about?

"dead man's hill" was inspired by an experience that amy had when she
was very young; she saw some high school boys douse cats with
gasoline and light them on fire.  it was, in her words, her "first
exposure to real evil".

in the "swamp ophelia" press release amy further explains, "the point
of view shifts back and forth from child to adult.  in some ways the
song is directed to my parents - that's why i asked my dad to sing on
it.  it's like i'm saying 'when things are bad i may not be able to
ask for your help, but i'll let you know they're bad!'"


- what are they saying at the beginning of "this train revised"?

the names of holocaust victims are being read by amy, emily, ferron
and michael lorant of big fish ensemble.


- what is the music box playing at the end of "this train revised"?

if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of the music box
winding several seconds after the song itself ends.  the tune that
the music box plays is "nocturne in e-flat" by frederick chopin.


12. other song related questions
================================

- what is the unnamed track at the end of the second "1200 curfews"
        cd?

this is a partial version (just the chorus) of amy's song "problem
child" (called "go go go" in the "1200 curfews" press kit), combined
with the ending of "touch me fall".


- what is "blood quantum" about?

in an interview in philadelphia in august 1996, amy said, "'blood
quantum' [is about] indian policy - genocide through bureaucracy and
paperwork... it's all really convoluted, but it's based on a dream i
had.  i started the song... i had this dream that i'm standing in
line with this pitcher of blood and... you know, everybody's getting
their blood measured to see how much indian they are.  it was the
most bizarre dream - i just finished reading all these books on blood
quantum you know, and so i started this song and couldn't finish it,
so emily finished this song for me.  she wrote lyrics and music,
wrote the bridge and stuff."


13. recent indigo girls news
============================

- what are amy and emily currently up to?

on september 31, 1996, indigo girls completed a three-week
demonstration tour.  while it is possible that a random concert or
two may be scheduled before march/may (spring) 1997, there will be no
full-scale tour for the next few months.

amy, emily and band members have gone into the studio to begin
recording indigo girls' sixth studio album.  the new album, "map", is
tentatively scheduled for release around march 1997.  "map" is likely
to contain at least 10 or 11 tracks, and from what has been heard on
the demo tour, it is going to be a very good album indeed.

it is almost certain that indigo girls will be touring worldwide to
support this album although that information is not yet available.
three ways to find out about concert dates in advance are to join the
official indigo girls fan club, check their sony www page, or simply
watch for the announcement on the mailing list.  see the indigo girls
mailing list faq for information on how to join the indigo girls
mailing list.


- what new songs have amy and emily written lately?

new songs which will probably be included on the new album include:
by amy:
    - "chiapas bound"
    - "cut it out"
    - "don't give that girl a gun"
    - "hey kind friend"
    - "problem child" (a partial version of which is included at the
        end of "1200 curfews")
    - "shame on you"

by emily:
    - "cara mia"
    - "get out the map"
    - "going to the country"
    - "in its time" (title unconfirmed)
    - "it's alright"
    - "leeds"
    - "winthrop"


- i heard amy and emily are playing new instruments - is this true?

yes, it is.  both amy and emily have picked up a few new instruments.
here's a list of the instruments they are known to play:
    - amy - acoustic, 12-string, electric and slide guitars,
        mandolin, piano, melodica, ukelele
    - emily - acoustic, classical, electric, 12-string electric and
        slide guitars, banjo, dobro, dulcimer, piano, bass guitar,
        bouzouki


14. miscellaneous questions
===========================

- who says "moo" and "who loves us... nobody!" on "1200 curfews"?

emily, in both cases.


- what does "soc" stand for?

soc stands for "stream of consciousness".  this is a literary style
where the author relates whatever is crossing their mind at that
moment, without any attempt to edit it.  amy has been known to use
this technique while performing a few of her songs live, most notably
"chickenman" and "touch me fall".  she has also mentioned that she
sometimes uses this technique while writing songs.


- what is "jesus christ superstar"?

in 1994, amy's record label daemon records released, in collaboration
with long play records, "jesus christ superstar: a resurrection", a
revival of andrew lloyd webber's rock opera as performed by a group
of atlanta artists.  the project was the brainchild of michael lorant
of big fish ensemble and gerard mchugh.  it started out jokingly but
eventually evolved into a 2-cd recording and live performance which
was staged in atlanta, austin and seattle.  a video of the austin
show, from march 1995, was released by daemon records, long play
records and flagpole magazine in 1996.

the project featured michael lorant as judas iscariot, gerard mchugh
as pontius pilate, emily as mary magdalene and amy as jesus.
proceeds were donated towards ending gun violence, a project close to
michael lorant's heart: the singer was shot in a store robbery in
little five points in atlanta in 1991.  for more information, visit
the hidden water "jesus christ superstar: a resurrection" www site at
http://www.hidwater.com/jcs/jcs.html.


- what is daemon records?

daemon records is a non-profit independent record label which was
started by amy in 1990.  based in decatur, georgia, daemon is "a
vehicle to allow recording artists to express their artistic vision
without the confines and restrictions of the traditional corporate
rock label".  amy believes strongly that diversity is the label's
first priority and strives to present music for people of all ages.
the common factor among the artists on the label is an "attention
to the craft of songwriting".

some of the artists signed to the daemon label include gerard
mchugh, danielle howle and reversing hour; former artists on the
label include kristen hall and band de soleil.  daemon was also
involved in the 1993 release of "jesus christ superstar: a
resurrection".  its most recent project has been the compilation
two-cd set "honor1", proceeds from which go towards aiding the
honor the earth campaign.

for more information about daemon, its artists or any of its
projects, contact daemon records at po box 1207, decatur, ga, usa
30031-1207 or visit their www site at http://monsterbit.com/daemon.


- what is honor the earth?

the honor the earth campaign is a joint project of the seventh
generation fund, the indigenous women's network and the indigenous
environment network.  their mission is to create "awareness and
support for indigenous environmental issues" and to obtain "needed
financial and political resources for the survival of sustainable
indigenous communities".

in her notes on the daemon records www site in mid-1996, amy wrote,
"the honor the earth campaign supports native activists doing
grassroots work to save their cultural ways, communities, and the
environment.  emily and i helped start the group about a year ago."
indigo girls toured for four weeks to help support the campaign in
1995, and amy has said that an honor the earth tour will be part of
every indigo girls touring season from now on.

the latest honor the earth project has been the release, in august
1996, of the 2-cd set "honor1: a benefit for the honor the earth
campaign" on amy's record label daemon records.  for more information
about "honor1" or the honor the earth campaign, visit the campaign's
www site at http://www.honorearth.com.


- what is rainy day records?

rainy day records is a record store in atlanta which specializes in
music by atlanta artists including collectibles, imports and rare
items.  rainy day records is owned and run by perry and marsha
thompson and ship worldwide.  contact perry and marsha at
(800) 636-6166 in the us, (404) 636-6166 outside the us, via email
at rainy@rainy.com, or visit their www site at http://www.rainy.com.


- what is the flying biscuit?

the flying biscuit is a small restaurant in atlanta which is owned in
part by emily.


- i really like indigo girls; what other artists might appeal to me?

if you like indigo girls, other artists whom you might like include:
    - mary chapin carpenter - one of the leading female country/folk
        artists today, mary chapin has sung with indigo girls and
        joan baez at the newport folk festival.  amy and emily also
        appear on her fourth album "come on come on".
    - shawn colvin - with her intelligent lyrics and stripped-down,
        entertaining live performance, shawn has been wowing fans for
        several years.
    - ani difranco - although she has been described as "folkpunk",
        that does not accurately capture the essence of ani's music.
        she is possibly one of the finest lyricists since bob dylan,
        and her music is intensely personal and always brutally
        honest.
    - disappear fear - a folk/pop band whose songs deal mainly with
        love and politics.  they have opened for indigo girls many
        times, and amy and emily appear on their second, self-titled
        album.
    - kristen hall - a longtime friend of the indigo girls (and
        formerly their guitar technician), kristen is a gifted
        songwriter whose emotive voice adds extra edge to her
        delivery.
    - michelle malone - formerly of drag the river and now fronting
        band de soleil, michelle is also a talented solo performer
        and is another longtime friend of amy and emily.  she has a
        wonderful voice and definite rock tendencies.
    - shawn mullins - a favorite on the atlanta folk scene, shawn
        often performs with fellow atlantan matthew kahler.  by
        himself he is also a wonderful songwriter who is gifted with
        a beautiful, smooth voice.
    - new mongrels - put together by haynes brooke, new mongrels is
        a group made up of musicians from atlanta and seattle,
        including amy, emily, michelle malone and gerard mchugh.
        they have one release available, "not dead (yet)", in which
        they perform a collection of brooke's songs which are quirky
        in the extreme.
    - dar williams - possessed of a beautiful voice and admirable
        songwriting skill, dar's intelligent, multi-layered songs and
        her often ingenious delivery will capture your heart and
        imagination.


15. acknowledgements
====================

this faq was created through the collaborative efforts of christopher
becker (cmbecker@space.mit.edu), dwayne jarrell
(djarrell@ix.netcom.com), sherlyn koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au), jen lucero
(jlucero@monmouth.com) and deb reiser (debbie@mei.com).  we rock!

thank you to carolyn spidle for creating and maintaining the
lifeblood www site, and to all the people who contributed, directly
and indirectly, the information used in this document.

and of course the biggest thanks of all go to our inspirations, amy
ray and emily saliers.

                                                          a + e = ig

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table of contents
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1. general questions about the indigo girls mailing list
2. questions about listserv commands
3. the posting guidelines
4. questions about indigo girls
5. miscellaneous questions
6. acknowledgements


questions about the indigo girls mailing list
=============================================

- what is the indigo girls mailing list?

the indigo girls mailing list is devoted to discussion of the music
of indigo girls and related artists.  all are welcome, and we strive
to maintain a friendly, flame-free atmosphere.  currently the list
membership stands at roughly 800 members from all walks of life and
from all around the world.

the list is maintained by jude shabry.  if you have any
administrative problems or queries about the list, direct your mail
to jude at jude@netspace.org.


- do amy and emily know about the list, and how do they feel about
        it?

amy and emily do know about the mailing list; indications are that
they have mixed feelings about it.  when asked in a 1994 interview
how she felt about the list amy said, "well, there are positive parts
about that.  a lot of that internet stuff has helped a lot of
musicians that i know as far as publishing tour schedules.  the only
negative ramification i see is when people start talking about your
personal life.  [things like] where they last saw you... it is hard
to keep the whole system responsible because people will be people,
so i think you have to take the good with the bad... i appreciate
the support it gives us, but... well, it is not necessary to try and
guess where somebody lives.  or guess where you saw somebody the
other night... but the support of the music itself, i think that is a
brilliant idea.  to support musicians through the whole computer
system i think is great."


- what is the difference between the "bounce" and "digest" forms of
        the list?

"digest" means the list server will compile all messages sent to the
list and send them to you as one long message, either every 24 hours
or when a certain size quota is reached, whichever happens first.
"bounce" means that messages will be individually "bounced" out to
you as soon as the list server receives them.

if your provider has a limit on the number of messages it can store
in your box, or you are charged per message received, it is
recommended that you subscribe to the digest form of the list.  if
you don't mind receiving many separate messages a day, you may prefer
to subscribe to the bounce version.  see below for instructions on
receiving the bounce or digest version of the list.


2. questions about listserv commands
====================================

- how do i get on the list?

to subscribe to the list, send an email message with no subject line
to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put (replacing "<your name>" with your
real name):
    subscribe indigo-girls <your name>


- how do i post to the list?

to post to the list, send your email to:
    indigo-girls@netspace.org

the list server at that address will then send a copy of your message
to every person who is a member of the mailing list.  before you send
your message, think about whether it conforms to the posting
guidelines outlined elsewhere in this document.


- how do i get off the list?

to unsubscribe from the list, send an email message with no subject
line to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put:
    signoff indigo-girls


- how do i switch from bounce to digest, or vice versa?

to switch from the bounce form of the list to the digest version,
send an email message with no subject line to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put:
    set indigo-girls mail digest

to switch from the digest form of the list to the bounce version,
send an email message with no subject line to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put:
    set indigo-girls mail nodigest


- how do i find out who is on the list?

to receive a list of all current non-concealed list members, send an
email message with no subject line to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put:
    review indigo-girls


- my listserv command didn't work, now what do i do?

note that the "signoff" and "set" commands will not work unless you
are sending your message from exactly the same address from which you
are subscribed to the list.  if you sent a command to the list server
and the server returned an error message reading "you are not
subscribed to the list", try sending the message again from the same
machine from which you originally subscribed (ask your system
administrator or your provider's support department if in doubt).

if you sent a command to the list server and the server returned a
message that reads "unknown command", you should read the help file
available from the server to find out the correct command syntax.
to receive the help file, send an email message with no subject line
to:
    listserv@netspace.org
in the body of your message put:
    help

if you have read the help file, re-tried the command, and still
received an error message, you should contact the list owner, jude
shabry, at jude@netspace.org.  let jude know what problems you are
having, and she will help you out.


3. the posting guidelines
=========================

- why do we need posting guidelines at all?

the posting guidelines are not intended to stifle free speech;
rather, they are intended to help keep the list "on track".  remember
that the purpose of the list is to provide a place to discuss the
music of the indigo girls and that many people on the list have
neither the time nor the inclination to read a lot of non-indigo
girls-related messages.

remember also that these are intended only as guidelines and not as
hard-and-fast rules about what may or may not be talked about on the
list.


- what are the guidelines?

the guidelines for posting on the indigo girls mailing list are as
follows:

1) read the indigo girls faq
it is highly recommended that you read the faq, especially if you are
a new member of the list, before posting any questions.  see below
for instructions on obtaining the faq.

2) check your message headers
if your message is intended for the whole list, make sure the address
in the "to:" field is the list address, "indigo-girls@netspace.org".
if your message is a private response to a message that was sent to
the whole list, make sure that the "to:" field contains the address
of the person to whom you wish to reply.

also make sure that the subject line is appropriate to the content of
your message.  adding "nigc" to the subject if your message is not
indigo girls related is also a good idea (more about this below).

3) delete all irrelevant text from quoted replies
if you're replying to someone else's post and want to quote their
message in your reply, make sure that you delete any irrelevant
sections of their message before sending your response.  this
includes their signature, any text that does not pertain to the
topic, and any message headers.

4) read through all your mail before you reply
it's a good idea to read through all your mail before you jump in
with a reply to a question that's been asked, in case someone else
has answered the question already.  also, if you want to reply to
several different messages, it is often a good idea to consolidate
your replies into one long message rather than sending several short
ones.

5) use private email where appropriate
think about whether your email really needs to be sent to the entire
list, or whether you should use private email instead.  remember that
the purpose of the list is to discuss the music of the indigo girls,
so if your message is private or not indigo girls related, you should
generally send it via private email.

this does not mean that off-topic discussion isn't welcome on the
list.  on the contrary, sometimes off-topic subjects are interesting
and even relevant (for example, discussing a local band or looking
for bootlegs of certain shows).  however, please try to limit
discussion to subjects that have at least some relevance to the music
of the indigo girls.

6) mark non-indigo girls-related messages "nigc"
if you are sending a message to the list that is not directly indigo
girls related, you should mark the header "nigc", eg. "looking for ed
smith (nigc)".  this indicates that your message has no indigo girls
content.  again, please try to limit the discussion to subjects that
have at least some relevance to the music of the indigo girls.  for
example, nigc does not mean "well, there's no ig discussion, so let's
talk about movies/hair styles/candy bars!".

7) do not post gossip about amy and emily
we respect amy and emily and their right to privacy; therefore,
please do not post any sort of gossip about their private lives to
the list.  please note that this includes reports of "sightings",
such as "i saw amy at the supermarket last night!"

8) keep your signature short
please try to keep your signature short (anything up to four or six
lines is considered short), or, if it's long and you don't want to
change it, turn it off entirely.  this saves the people subscribed to
the digest from having to scroll through your entire signature in
order to get to the next message in the digest.

9) think before you flame, and if you must flame, use private email
if someone says something on the list that you simply do not agree
with, it's often a good idea to wait a day or so before replying.
messages written in the heat of the moment tend to be more
inflammatory and less effective than messages written after a day or
so of thought.

if you must flame, do so via private email.  if you send a flame to
the entire list, you run the risk of being flamed by many other
people in retaliation.  remember too that if you send a flame, it
reflects not only on the person that you are flaming, but also on
yourself.

10) avoid "me too!" posts
messages which are nothing more than an entire quoted message
followed by "me too!" waste bandwidth and contribute nothing to the
development of a conversation.  if you feel that you must send this
sort of post, you should either send it via private email or else
make sure that your message has other content as well.

11) avoid hoax emails, cross-posts, chain letters, etc
there are a few hoax emails that are constantly being forwarded
around the internet.  obviously, if you are sent one of these, do not
forward it to the mailing list.  some of the most common hoaxes are:
    - a warning to compuserve users about a virus called "good times"
    - a warning about a virus called "pkzip.300"
    - a request for "get well" cards for a young boy with leukemia
    - a message purportedly containing a recipe from mrs field's
        cookies
    - various "get rich quick" and "make money fast" schemes

also, please refrain from forwarding cross-posts (messages which are
sent to many unrelated forums at once), chain letters, humor stories
or large files to the list.  if you would like to share this sort of
message with the list, you should post a short note describing the
content of the message and offering to forward it to anyone who is
interested.  if enough people express interest, you may want to then
forward the message to the list.  however, please do not
indiscriminately forward these kinds of files to the list.

12) how to deal with spam
"spam" is the common term for junk emails (usually advertising)
which are sent to large sections of the internet at a time.  these
posts are annoying but unfortunately hard to avoid.  if you receive
a spam email from the list, you should either ignore it or send your
reply directly to the original poster.  do not post complaints or
flames to the list; while it is almost guaranteed that everyone on
the list is as annoyed as you are, the resultant spate of flame
emails is often more annoying than the original spam itself.

13) how to conduct surveys over the list
if you want to conduct any kind of survey over the list, you should
present your idea to the list and ask people to send their responses
to you via private email.  you can then compile the data and post
the results to the list at a later date.  this keeps the volume of
email on the list down.

14) what to do if you think the list is dead
the list server dies from time to time and is always restarted as
soon as the problem is discovered.  if you're not sure whether the
server is still running you should refrain from posting until you
receive proof that the server is up.  sending "is the list running?"
messages is pointless if the list is not running, and a waste of
bandwidth if it is.  if you want to confirm whether or not other
people have been receiving list mail, privately mail someone from the
list and ask them instead.

if you haven't been receiving list mail, another possibility is that
you may have been dropped from the subscription list (this also
happens from time to time).  use the "review" command to see who is
subscribed to the list; if your name is not there you will need to
resubscribe.


4. questions about the indigo girls
===================================

- is there a faq file about indigo girls?  how do i get it?

the indigo girls faq has been made as comprehensive as possible;
many questions have been answered there that have not been addressed
in this document.  it is highly recommended that anyone with
questions about indigo girls or their music read the faq.

the faq is available in several ways:
    - via anonymous ftp from space.mit.edu, in directory pub/cmb/ig
    - on the www at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig

if you cannot retrieve the faq by either of the above methods, the
faq is also available by email from sherlyn koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au),
or from any of the faq creators listed at the end of this file.


- what are amy and emily currently up to?

on september 31, 1996, indigo girls completed a three-week
demonstration tour.  while it is possible that a random concert or
two may be scheduled before march/may (spring) 1997, there will be no
full-scale tour for the next few months.

amy, emily and band members have gone into the studio to begin
recording indigo girls' sixth studio album.  the new album, "map", is
tentatively scheduled for release around march 1997. some of the
songs which may be included on the album are emily's "cara mia",
"get out the map", "going to the country", "in its time" (title
unconfirmed), "it's alright", "leeds", and "winthrop"; and amy's
"chiapas bound", "cut it out", "don't give that girl a gun", "hey
kind friend", and "shame on you".  "map" is likely to contain at
least 10 or 11 tracks, and from what has been heard on the demo tour,
it is going to be a very good album indeed.

it is almost certain that indigo girls will be touring worldwide to
support this album although that information is not yet available.
three ways to find out about concert dates in advance are to join the
official indigo girls fan club, check their sony www page, or simply
watch for the announcement on the mailing list.  see the indigo girls
mailing list faq for information on how to join the indigo girls
mailing list.


5. miscellaneous questions
==========================

- what are all these acronyms?

some song titles, album titles, and phrases crop up so many times in
conversation that they are often abbreviated or turned into acronyms.

some of the more common acronyms include: igc (indigo girls content),
nigc (no indigo girls content), a&e (amy and emily), sf ("strange
fire"), nis ("nomads*indians*saints"), rop ("rites of passage"), so
("swamp ophelia"), latul ("live at the uptown lounge"), ws
("watershed"), ctf ("closer to fine"), lc ("least complicated"), tmf
("touch me fall"), jcs ("jesus christ superstar"), soc (stream of
consciousness), rdr (rainy day records), hte (honor the earth), and
a.m.ig (alt.music.indigo-girls).

other acronyms which are commonly used on the internet are: irc
(internet relay chat), btw (by the way), imho (in my humble
opinion), fwiw (for what it's worth), lol (laughing out loud), and
rotfl (rolling on the floor laughing).

there are, of course, many more.  if you are having trouble figuring
out what an acronym stands for, remember that it will usually be a
song title or a reference to some subject that has been under
discussion on the list recently.


- who made the list t-shirts, and where can i get one?

every so often, someone will arrange to have a batch of t-shirts,
bumper stickers, buttons etc made, and sold on the list at cost.
these items are limited editions and are only available under the
terms laid down by their creators (timeframe, cost etc).  if there
are no projects currently under way, be patient.  these projects are
often under development, so watch out for announcements on the list.


- what are boots?  how can i get some?

a "boot", which is short for bootleg, is an unauthorized concert
recording.  boots come in two varieties - "professionally" created
bootlegs, usually released as cds which have been pressed in europe
under loopholes in copyright laws, and "homemade" tapes made by fans
who take tape recorders into concerts, or obtain copies of soundboard
recordings of the show.  almost all bootlegs are created by the
second method.

the best way to get bootleg tapes is to arrange a tape trade with
someone from the list.  if you don't know anyone who has any tapes
and you're interested in trading, the best thing to do is to send a
short message to the list asking if anybody is interested in trading
with you.  see below for the list policy regarding bootleg trading.


- are boots illegal?

most venues ban recording equipment, both audio and video, and may
confiscate your tape recorder if they find it.  however, whether
bootlegging is actually illegal depends more on where you are and on
what you do with the product.  one thing is for certain - it is
always illegal to make a profit from one of these recordings!


- what is the list policy regarding boots?

members of the list have asked amy and emily about the bootleg issue
and they have taken the "grateful dead" stance.  that is, they have
no problem with fans taping shows (depending, of course, upon the
venue policy), but you are on your honor not to sell the recordings.
trading is fine, and the list's policy reflects amy's and emily's
wishes.  boots are free to be traded for either another boot, a blank
tape, goods to the equivalent value, or the cost of the tape and
postage.  people selling homemade boots are not welcome on the list.
it is recommended that you don't do any business with someone
offering to sell you a boot because someone else will certainly trade
with you.  and in order to help out those new to trading, boot
traders are encouraged to take a blank tape in return for a recording
if the tradee has nothing to offer.


- what are the "must have" boots?

there are a few early bootlegs which are recommended for anyone who
is thinking of starting a bootleg collection.  these include:
    - "tuesday's children" (1981), an early "studio" tape recorded in
        amy's basement
    - "color me grey" (1982), amy's solo tape
    - "blue food" (1985), an early independent release
    - "live at the purple parrot" (1986), a much-circulated audience
        recording


- what is a tape tree, and how do they work?

sometimes an exceptional boot or compilation tape will be of very
high interest to the list at large.  in order to make life easier for
the owner of the tape, and to ensure that everyone who wants the tape
will receive a fairly early generation copy, the tape owner (the
trunk) will make copies for a few people (the branches), who in turn
make copies for everyone else (the leaves).  the trunk keeps the
master tape, the branches receive a 2nd generation copy, and each
leaf receives a 3rd generation copy.  this is called a tape tree.

typically trees will be announced on the list along with a list of
the names of the branches.  branches are usually divided either by
region, last name or zodiac sign, or some combination of the three.
when a tree is announced, it is good form to contact the person who
is handling your branch as soon as possible.


- what is "indicated"?  how can i get a copy?

"indicated" (aka "back on the 'net, y'all") is a series of tapes of
covers of indigo girls songs as performed by members of the list.
the first "indicated" was created in 1993.  the two subsequent
versions were organized by rob sticka; "indicated ii" appeared in
1995 and "indicated iii" in 1996.

there are many other compilation tapes in existence.  as with
bootlegs, the best way to obtain copies of these tapes is to
organize a tape trade with someone from the list.


6. acknowledgements
===================

this faq was created through the collaborative efforts of christopher
becker (cmbecker@space.mit.edu), dwayne jarrell
(djarrell@ix.netcom.com), sherlyn koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au), jen lucero
(jlucero@monmouth.com) and deb reiser (debbie@mei.com).  we rock!

thank you also to our fearless listmanager jude shabry
(jude@netspace.org), to carolyn spidle for the lifeblood site, and to
all the list-owners and members past and present.

and of course the biggest thanks of all go to our inspirations, amy
ray and emily saliers.

                                                          a + e = ig
=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=
      "i'm not making a joke - you know me,
       i take *everything* so seriously..."
                        - emily saliers
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 19:25:26 -0500
reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
subject:      romeo&juliet (nigc)
x-to:         anaisbleu@aol.com

rachael cannon wrote:
>
> i completely agree w/ dsrogers about romeo & juliet!!! i thought it was an
> amazing film-- those who criticize it for being different than the original
> should remember that william shakespeare left the interpretation of his play
> up to future actors & directors. i think he would have enjoyed this version!
>
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hi folks.  i'm new to this list, but i couldn't resist responding to the thread about
romeo and juliet.  i saw this movie over the weekend.  i have to say that it was a
creative way to look at the story.  mercutio dressed up in drag was definitely an
interesting twist.  i thought leonardo dicaprio and claire danes did excellent jobs with
their respective parts.  but i could not bring myself to enjoy it.  the cinematography
was distracting, almost annoying at times.  the music in the movie also distracted me
from this beautiful story.  did anyone else feel this way, or am i alone on this one?

i won't take up any more space with nigc, so i will be on my way for now.

kelly fairbairn

ps--i usually tend to favor emily's part, alto though i may be.

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 16:21:23 -0800
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      map boots

i have a small germ of an idea forming, and i want to know: when was the
first concert that ig started singing the new stuff, and how many boots
with new materiel are out there?  i don't *think* they were doing new
materiel at nojf but i can't recall; was it newport?  that would mean 2
nff boots, la cruces, woody guthrie, bumberboot, and ???  someone please
enlighten me!! thanks--

*************************************************************************
"lighten up, francis."
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 20:22:09 -0500
reply-to:     amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
subject:      you know you're obsessed

....when you find a nice pic of them on the internet and choose it as wallpaper
for the background on your computer .... ;d
(i'm in deep trouble with my girlfriend for it too)

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date:         tue, 5 nov 1996 21:04:36 -0500
reply-to:     seaphish@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: list shirt/possible thread

in a message dated 96-11-04 23:14:36 est, wuman@warwick.net (jonny wu)
writes:

>        i know everyone here loves to sing along with the girls.  but what i
>  was wondering was, who's part do you sing when you sing along?

i've always sung emily's parts on the majority of the songs because she and i
have just about the same vocal range (so unfortunately we couldn't harmonize
while trying on pants ;)  there are some songs where i find myself singing
amy's part because the melody is more complicated than the harmony.  when i
sing one of my bestest, most favorite song, lr, i sing emily's part until the
very end, and then i sing amy's because it comes much more naturally.

-sheri :)
who decided that if either dole or perot win, i will be moving to
canada...and who has a huge aural rehab midterm tomorrow, so i better go
study :(

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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date:         tue, 5 nov 1996 21:22:18 -0500
reply-to:     tuesday's child <dc3545@cnsvax.albany.edu>
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from:         tuesday's child <dc3545@cnsvax.albany.edu>
subject:      re: those lovely november people
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.93.961105195255.18250j-100000@sparrow.qut.edu.au>

on tue, 5 nov 1996, julie jansen wrote:

> well i recently discovered a whole different kind of astrology and since
> emily is a native american (right?), i thought i might share it with you:
> (at least this way i can make it a ig topic hoho)

        sorry to blow your igc, but i don't think either of the girls are
native american. in fact i vaguely recall amy saying that they're not in
an interview. not that it really matters. the subject matter is still
very cool. my best friend joyce is part lakota sioux, and is studying to
be a shaman. i think she'll get a kick out of this.

> 21st mar-19th apr: falcon
> falcon people rise to great heights, and like to spread their wings. their
> prey is a new idea/experience/place to visit/past-time. they are fearless
> in going after what they want. good starters but not stayers.

        the falcon would be amy's sign.  she's born april 12, 1964. this
sure does sound like her from what we know of her! fearless, rising to
great heights, hunting down new experiences/ideas etc...

> 20th apr-20th may: beaver
> always busying themselves with making alterations and home improvements,
> their overall purpose is security and contentment. adaptable and creative,
> they are patient and perservering.

        this is me. i'm born april 20th, 1967. somehow i always end up on a
cusp no matter what. this is also joyce's girlfriend, dar. her birthday is
may 17, 1969. joyce says that her dar and i are lot alike. maybe this
explains it. ;) much to joyce's consternation, dar is busting out in a
rash of nesting instincts. i'm extremely amused by the whole thing.

> 21st may-20th jun: deer
> sensitive, alert and fast-moving, they are intuitive towards others'
> feelings. their thoughts race very quickly, they appreciate beauty and
> frequently leap from one idea to another.

        this is joyce, the shaman. she's june 12, 1963. she is absolutely
all of the above.

> 21st jun-21st jul: woodpecker
> reluctant to let their offspring go, they make a comfortable nest for
> themselves and require a comfortable home and close relationships. they
> need a channel for their energies and devotion.
>
> 22nd jul-21st aug: salmon
> blessed with longevity and graceful aging, they are both optimistic and
> vain. often sought out by others for their enjoyment, salmon people may
> appear charming or fickle on the exterior but are prickly or serious on
> the inside - or the reverse. they must learn to master their emotions.

        i can't remember if emily is july 21 or 22, 1963. so she's either
a woodpecker or a salmon. both of which fit depending on how you
interpret it. re: woodpecker, most of em's songs are about close
relationships and their importance to her. re: salmon, "i look a lot like
narcissus...", serious on the inside. you get the idea.

> i apologise for this longish post, especially since it may not hold
> interest for everyone. but if you'd like to take part in a survey, or get
> a few more detailed pars from the book, let me know won't you?

        i'd be happy to participate in your survey. and i've got a
question for you. do you tinker with analysis of zodiacal interactions?
could you tell me anything about my two friends and i based just on the
birthdays i listed?

                                                busy little beaver,
                                                tuesday's child


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subject:      re: a request nigc -- long!
in-reply-to:  <961105153708_136021958@emout19.mail.aol.com>

on tue, 5 nov 1996, katy wischow wrote:

> my request - okay, y'all, having run up against my first striking instance of
> institutionalized homophobia, i need help.  i need to find some really good
> gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good suggestions
> for inclusion in a high school lit class.  intelligent students, mostly
> (myself excepted, of course, but i'm indigo :) but high school.  the approval
> issue is awful, and i am now incredibly angry at the powers that be in my
> school...but any suggestions y'all can give would be very very appreciated!
> and if anybody has any experience or ideas about anything i can do to make my
> school more open...it certainly needs it :)

hi all!
        i thought i would share this with all of you since katy isn't the
only one on the list with this problem. i found this information in our
local (albany, ny) les/bi/gay newsletter, "community". sorry it's so
long, but it's worth it. please read it. thanks.

                                                        tuesday's child

reprinted without permission (even though i'm on the staff).

                --------------------------------

what is glstn?
by john meyers

        the gay, lesbian, and straight teachers network (glstn) is the
largest organization of parents, educators, students and other concerned
citizens working to end homophobia in k-12 schools and to ensure that all
students are valued and respected, regardless of sexual orientation.
        to fulfill its mission and to raise awareness of these issues,
glstn produces audio, visual and text-based educational materials,
provides training, produces community programming and conferences, and
organizes a growing network of over 40 regional chapters.
        membership in glstn is open to anyone - regardless of their
occupation or sexual orientation - who is committed to seeing that the
current generation is the last to suffer from homophopia. more than 70%
of our budget is funded by individual donations. we need your support to
continue to make resources available such as the ones you'll find
available online. glstn is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation and all
donations are fully tax-deductible to the extent allowed by law.


what is glstn's mission?
        glstn's goal is to create an environment at k-12 schools, in
which every member of the school community is valued and respected,
regardless of sexual orientation.
        we believe that such an atmosphere engenders a positive sense of
self, which is the basis of educational achievement and personal growth.
since homophobia and heterosexism undermine a healthy school climate, we
work to educate teachers, students and the public at large about the
damaging effects these forces have on youth and adults alike. we
recognize that forces such s racism and sexism have similarly adverse
impacts on communities, and we support schools in seeking to redress all
such inequities. glstn seeks to develop school climates where difference
is valued for the positive contribution it makes in creating a more
vibrant and diverse community.

exactly what does glstn do?
        to fulfill our mission, glstn is committed to the following
activities:
1)addressing homophobia and heterosexism in schools by facilitating
communication among educators of all sexual orientations.
2)promoting dialogue with and among schools on the needs of gay, lesbian
and bisexual youth and their families.
3)developing and distributing trainings, curricula and other materials in
printed form and online which provide schools with strategies to
guarantee equality for their students, to create a safe environment, to
provide support and training for their faculty, and to value diversity
with regard to sexual identity.
4)helping schools understand how communities which value diversity are
healthier ones for all students, regardless of sexual orientation and
that students are then freer to realize their human potential in such an
environment .
5)educating the general public on the necessity for addressing sexual
identity in the educational system as a means of creating better schools.
6)creating support for gay, lesbian and bisexual students and teachers
currently in schools.
7)advocating change in the society at large with regard to homophobia and
heterosexism, working to influence local, state and national leaders.
        glstn's specific activities include regional conferences focused
on creating change in schools, on-site workshops for individual schools
and conferences, curriculum and training module development, quarterly
newsletters and advocacy on behalf of youth and families.

what is glstn's history?
        glstn was founded in the boston area in 1990 and was instrumental
on the work which led to massachusetts becoming the first state in the
nation to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in its
public schools. it was honored for this work by massachusetts governor
william weld in 1993. in response to increasing national interest in
glstn's work, the group incorporated in 1994, hired staff and began to
develop the first national network of local chapters working to end
homophobia in our schools. since that time, more than forty local
chapters have been founded across the united states. glstn's work has
expanded to include helping to establish october as national lesbian,
gay, and bisexual month, assisting local groups to introduce legislation
to protect the rights of gay students in states including california and
connecticut, and sponsoring programming on the local level in more than
20 states.
        glstn has been instrumental in changing schools. glstn developed
the "gay-straight alliance" student support program, and helped establish
such groups in schools in more than two dozen states. glstn was
instrumental in the fight that made massachusetts the first state to ban
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against public school
students in december, 1993. in 1994, glstn was chosen to develop the
faculty training component of the massachusetts department of education's
"safe schools for gay and lesbian youth" program, the first state-wide
effort to provide comprehensive training to school staffs on the needs of
gay and lesbian youth. glstn helped establish gay and lesbian history
month, persuading massachusetts governor william weld and connecticut
governor lowell weicker to issue proclamations on behalf of this
inaugural event in october, 1994 and hosting the nation's largest
conference on the subject. in local chapters across the nation, glstn
members, created more inclusive curriculum, delivered hundreds of
trainings for school staffs, and carried out a myriad of activities to
make our schools better places for all to work and learn.

glstn headquarters
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tel:(212) 727-0135
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        "when your vision stays clear in the face of your fear
         then you see turning off a lightswitch is their only
         power when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
         all for on and one for all then we sing the common call...
         ...if the world is night shine my life like a light."
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subject:      re: singing part

yay!!  my first post:)  (hi, katy, carrie!)
anyway, i haven't been an ig fan *that* long (about a nanosecond
compared to some), so this thread made me pay attention to myself
as i was singing along.  i try to sing all of every song--even when
i'm not too clear on the actual words:)  i end up being extremely
breathless and having a scratchy throat b/c if there are any
layered vocals or points where em bursts in with an "ooooo!", i
throw all of it in.  but i also noticed that because i don't have
to reach so hard for amy parts, i get a lot more emotional.
(e.g.--in r&j, every time i sing the "now how can can you look at
me like i was just another one of your deals?" i crouch and wave my
arms and contort my face:)  i'd hate to picture the accident if i
listened to it while driving!)
btw, ressurrecting a really old thread, i think it would be cool if
the ig did a cover of "the devil came down to georgia"

christy:)

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subject:      re: favorite song to harmonize to

as i meticulously procrastinate...and maniacally post...

>all my life!) just thought i'd add my $.02. my favorite song to harmonize
>to is definetly love will come to you. i was first introduced to the

yes!  this is not a me too post b/c i have more to add...i love this song
mostly because of the harmony...i didn't like it the first time i heard it
but then, as i started to listen to the beautiful words and then get into the
harmonies, i loved it!!!  now i can't get dressed in the morning without
listening to it.  also...i like to sing along with the layered vocals.  even
though i tend to get lost.  and start bellowing along with whomever i can
hear best :)  but i like singing harmonies better than the lead vocal part,
on almost any song.  chickenman, for one.  i like singing amy on the wood
song and ghost.  and i love to sing the reversing hour song on honor.  i love
it!  i keep finding myself singing higher than the actual singers...very fun
thing to do...hey, that's what i can do once i quit this internet thing and
not study :)
love katy

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subject:      re: trivia

>> so here's the next question...
>> which two lines from two emily songs did amy say that she didn't want to
>> sing when she first heard them?

so...what's up with this?  am i the only one who doesn't know about this??
why didn't amy want to sing certain lines?
ahhh...enlighten me, y'all!
katy  :)

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subject:      re: singing parts

hey y'all...

just wanted to add to this thread...i usually sing emily parts because i'm
a soprano. my favorite emily songs to sing, hmmmm...."ghost" is probably my
favorite. i like "fare thee well" too, and "river" on 1200 curfews. i cry
while i sing "ghost" so it probably doesn't sound all that great.

a lot of times amy's stuff is too low for me. there are a few amy songs
that i really like to sing, "jonas and ezekiel" for example. it's not too
low for me. my significant other won't sing with me and that saddens
me...but i digress.

i wish i could play the guitar now.

enough...

smiles,

shanna

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<_    \__          |well the
  |   ' /'   """.  |mississippi's mighty
   \___/     *  "  |but it starts
   /===\   /  ""   |in minnesota
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hey, i haven't received any messages from the list all day.

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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
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date:         wed, 6 nov 1996 02:04:18 -0500
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subject:      my web page (migc)

for those of you who have visited my page recently, or not, whatever,
please note that my address has changed slightly.  now all you have to type
is

http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/

and it'll take you to my main page.

i am still working on my ig page content...

mary  :)

*******************************************************
mary elizabeth kushman
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

e-mail addresses:
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reply-to:     judy lathrop <siteline@istar.ca>
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subject:      romeo & juliet

david rogers <dsrogers@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> wrote:
"and, as far as igc, i disagree that the ig's r and j is more true to
the play. yes, i have read the play and yes, i do love the ig's r and j.
but, the play is a tragedy because r and j die soon after they realize
true love. the song is tragic because juliet's love for romeo dies and
romeo is left alive to deal with it. the song is more true to real life
maybe, but definitely not to the play. its a total alteration of the
play's storyline."

not usually being one to split hairs ;-) , i thought i'd delurk to let
those who may not know (i've run into a few) that r&j is originally dire
straits, not the igs.  and if you haven't heard it, i strongly recommend
picking up a copy of alchemy, a live ds recording with an incredible version of
r&j on it.

actually, it would be neat to find out from the list members what their
favourite performance of r&j (by any band) is.  as you can probably
tell, my favourite version is the ds one on alchemy.  if you have a favourite,
email me privately and i'll post the results.

--robin squires
(using siteline@istar.ca)

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subject:      thread - world falls

"so my question is where do people go that they want to or do =
sing/listen
to/play world falls?  does the beauty keep shaking you, too?"

i have a similar experience/feeling, but it's about "southland in the =
springtime."  i love to drive the blue ridge mountain parkway with the =
windows rolled down and the sunroof open, listening to that song.  it's =
one of the most beautiful places on earth (and very near helen...) and =
for me epitomizes that song.

-rich

p.s. ryan--i voted in my list shirt, too!!!

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subject:      re: favorite phrases in ig songs

hi!

my favorite line is from ghost:

"and i feel it like a sickness how this love is killing me
i walk into the fingers of your fire willingly
we dance the edge of sanity;  i've never been this close
i'm in love with your ghost"

i have often wondered if this song is about a real ghost, e.g. someone
who died, or if it's just a metaphor for a lost love.... anyone
have any thoughts about that - share it, please!

fanny

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subject:      nigc: barbara kessler pre-natal tour

this hit my mailbox this morning.  the mini-tour is primarily in the
northeast, but there is also a plug for a cool compilation album....
congrats to barbara on the soon-to-be-born!

                                -- chris


> from folkwithjb@aol.com wed nov  6 03:46:40 1996
> subject: barbara kessler final shows!
>
> hi everybody,
>
> barbara kessler will perform a few more shows this month and then take a much
> deserved maternity leave.  (yes, that's right maternity!)  barbara is due on
> january 5th.  she's getting a bit to large to play guitar much longer.  these
> final shows should be fun and many will have her trio along for the ride.
>
> notion and stranger cd's are available direct form eastern front records at a
> reasonable discount via mail order (800) 337-3747.  (hint: they make great
> christmas gifts.)  also look for bk on putamayo presents "women's work".
>  this is a great compilation with many cool folks including ani difranco,
> catie curtis, janis ian, kristen hall, laura love, ferron, toni childs and
> many more!
>
> if your looking for the perfect stocking stuffer or a very strange christmas
> card, please write us for more info about our christmas compilation featuring
> 14 of your favorite holiday tunes performed on rubber band with some special
> office equipment accompaniment including rulers, soda cans, scissors etc.
>  this is a must for every serious cd collector.  they are available for $4.99
> s&h or ten for $40.  come complete with special musical rubber band, enclosed
> gift card as well as directions.  we will have them at gigs as well.
>
> schedule follows:
>
> hi!  these are the last shows b.c. (before child.)  come on out and say hi
> but no labor stories unless they are short and painless ( the labors and the
> stories....)  bk
>
> sunday november 10  7pm
> the muse at the grey goose ii
> 2 young road, londonderry nh  (603) 437-6085
>
> tuesday november 12  8:30pm
> johnny  d's
> 17 holland, davis square, somerville ma  (617) 776-2004
> with mica richards opening
>
> saturday november 16  8pm
> the new moon coffeehouse
> 16 ashland st. haverill ma  (508) 372-5173
>
> monday november 18  8pm
> slates restaurant
> 167 water  st. hallowell  me  (207) 662-9575
>
>  saturday november 23  8pm
> the left bank cafe
> blue hill me
> benefit for weru community radio.
> everybody gets a free cd! $15 (207) 374-2201
>
> peace
> philip antoniades
> artist development associates inc.
> formerly johnny brock management
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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subject:      more presents (some igc)

while i was in san francisco, i managed to sneak away to berkeley for a day
where i found two cool record/cd stores.  even though i was low of funds to
begin with, i still succeeded in bringing back some cds, mostly as
experiments.

* reversing hour - life without television
haven't listened to this yet, but one of their songs is on honor 1 and it
was only $3.95

* the rock-a-teens -  (self-titled)
haven't listened to this yet either, but it was only $2.95

* merril bainbridge - the garden
haven't listened to this yet but saw it mentioned on the list (they had
several copies of this for $1.95)

*new mongrels - not dead (yet)
like this one and it was only $2.95

big fish ensemble- i hate parties
not real wild about this one at all even though a & e sing on "animal"
(luckily it was only $2.95)

sweet relief ii
seemed to be a lot of copies of this, and i've listened to it but wasn't
really paying attention

loudon wainwright iii - grown man
i think the song "i wish i was a lesbian" is a crack up

i wouldn't normally have bought most of these except that they were cheap
(most are promos)  and its likely that i won't be keeping them all.  i
picked these up at rasputin's and amoeba.  one of these stores (maybe
amoeba) had two ig albums that looked to be in good shape.  i think strange
fire and self-titled were the ones and they were around $5.00 a piece.  i'm
not into vinyl, so they were still there when i left.  saw at least three
promo copies of honor 1, but am intending to buy it direct later (or asking
for it for xmas).
thus ends my trip report, oh yeah, san francisco was fun (especially seeing
vertigo at the castro theater)

betsy (who is plugging in the headphones as i type - yes i type with one hand)

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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subject:      nigc birthday greetings

november 6
m15x+@andrew.cmu.edu (michael anthony leonard)
happy 23rd, michael!!
juliet, when we made love you used to cry
you said 'i love you like the stars above, i'm gonna love you til i die'
there's a place for us, i know you know this song
now when you gonna realize, it was just that the time was wrong?
julie...

have an indigo year!


a side note: the birthday goddess heard dire straits' version on the radio
the other day, and was not impressed.  what a blah way to sing that!  does
he even care one way or the other?  the birthday goddess was waiting with
baited breath for the dj to play amy's version right after, but of course
that couldn't happen, because it's the mountain, which not only never
plays ig songs, but hardly ever plays songs by women artists.  they once
played a dar song, though, so the birthday goddess is keeping her hopes
up.

and another thing: not like it was a big surprise, and not like the bg
can feel wholeheartedly happy about it, but...the bg is happy that the
world will not be terrorized by the menacing eyebrows of that banana guy
anymore. ;d

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subject:      what was really me..

a question to the lyrics of this tune by emily..does she really say
"i i might let it go and take a long long run.quit my job and join the
coastguard laying in the sun"

am i nuts? or am i hearing it qwrong?

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subject:      harmonies

i was thinking about the old thread about whether you usually sing a & e's
part.   personally, i usually try to sing both...at the same time...but
that doesn't usually work too well. :)  so then i just alternate & sing
whichever part i like better at the time.  when i'm walking by myself, i
sing in my head, & sometimes i can actually hear a&e harmonizing in my head
at the same time.  i thought it was interesting that at the ig concert i
was at, there were certain songs that everyeone seemed to sing the same
part on, but others where the audience was actually harmomizing with each
other.  also, i was just listening to these songs (revised), & there are a
few songs where either the harmony is different from how they now do it
(reunion), or there is no harmony whatsoever...just one of them is singing
(language or the kiss).  i found myself attempting to sing the part that
was missing!  ig music is simply not the same w/ only a or e solo...

andi

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                              andrea lipman
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                     "and for everything i've learned
                     there are two i don't understand
                     that's why i'm still on a search
                     through the weather strewn church
                       i'm doing the best that i can
                          and it's alright."-es
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date:         wed, 6 nov 1996 13:00:10 -0500
reply-to:     kellie deis <kdeis@kent.edu>
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@kent.edu>
subject:      did i get booted?

either y'all are real silent today or i got booted from the list for an
unknown reason. i know i haven't been postin much, but i am still here..or
at least i was.  could someone mail me in pvt to let me know you got this
and get me the resubscribe address?

thanks....  kel

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subject:      amber's ra

ok.. this all is going on.. and i have a couple pennies
floating around here... there.. two cents, ante up!

i was an ra as well, at purdue u (nods to those
who heard of the recent tragedy) and i know that
they go out of their way at pu to hire people
who, no matter what their personal views are,
can support people of all walks of life..
from the homesick freshman to the die hard greek
straight, bi, trans, omni, homo-sexual
no matter what ethnicity etc..
in fact i was the one who got practically
everyone on my floor hooked on ig.. well
they already owned rip and i just made them
listen to something other than galileo! :)
maybe it was my floor(s) but no one ever cared
about ig's orientation.. they just loved the lyrics
and the music.. like me!

and about the singing parts (johnny's thread...)
i can only sing em's parts.. my voice is
so damn low :)...

i know this really just was a vent.. but i feel that
an ra that puts down a resident shouldnt be an ra..
she isnt doing her job right..
*sigh.. now i feel better

anjeanette

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date:         fri, 8 nov 1996 09:09:11 -0800
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subject:      nigc weekend birthdays

haha, the birthday goddess is ahead of schedule for once!

november 9
alcapi@mail.wm.edu (amy l. capistran)
happy 21st, amy!
this world falls on me, with hopes of immortality
everywhere i turn, the beauty just keeps shaking me...

indigopony@aol.com (carrie mowbray)
happy birthday, ponygirl!
so we know we're alright, (we) know life will come and life will go
still you feel it's alright, cos you just got a letter to your soul...

jlk299s@nic.smsu.edu (jennifer l. keller)
happy 19th, jennifer!
but there was the time i asked my father for a dollar
and he gave it a ten dollar raise,
and when i needed my mother and i called her
she stayed with me for days...

november 10
litlbits@ix.netcom.com (amy e. hannon)
happy 25th, amy!
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast
and you learn to burn the icy sky, to melt the waxen mask...

everybody have an indigo year!


side note: as the bg was breakfasting on grape nuts ;) and reading her
out-of-date brazilian newspaper for language practice, she came to the end
of a story, and it said: (ig) .  ignoring the trivial detail that the
reporter's name is igor griegov or something, the bg was duly pleased with
the igc of her morning.

and another thing: any newbies who haven't sent in their info (@ddress,
name, age, favorite song quote) and want to be included in the birthday
greetings should feel free to do so at any time.

have a happy day, y'all.

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subject:      nigc  bad email day for me

well,  the stupid blankity blank blank computer consultant who is probably
a really nice person, but, right now i hate,  lost my in box somewhere, so
all my saved messages are gone.  no one knows where.  consequently,  i
can't write anybody cause i don't have anyone's email address.  so, if you
wrote me in the last few days, and i haven't written you back, could you
please please write me again, so i can write you  (cari, sarah, katy,
susan,  corinne, and anyone else)

sorry about the nigc, but deal with it.

also,  jen lucero,  could you send me all the words to the new songs?  i
had them all saved, and they are gone too.

and claire,  by any chance do you still have that message you sent me about
all the great stuff in olympia?  i was keeping it for later use, but it's
gone too.  if you still have it, could you send it too me?

thanks everyone :)

love sundara (who also lost her sig file, and is trying really hard to not
be upset about the whole incident cause there are worse things that could
happen, but is still very bummed)

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x-to:         ros@einstein.et.tudelft.nl, meat-loaf@1webplaza.com
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is it jsut me or are all my lists going slow im hardly getting mail from
any of them

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subject:      ignorance is bliss    pt. 2

hey fellow listers!

today was an ig day.....i got up this morning, saw sheets and torrents of rain,
and felt that i needed the ig to brighten my day.  so i popped in nomads,
donned my new ig list shirt, and plopped my ig hat on my head, and trekked
across a soaking wet campus for my moral issues class.  we discuss animal
rights for an hour, and then i head for the bathroom after class before
venturing back out into the wet.....in the bathroom, i am approached by a woman
i have never seen before, and she says to me, "hey, you like the indigo girls?"
me: "yeah, i love them."
her: " i saw them a couple years back....have you ever seen them?"
me:  "yeah, i saw them back home a couple years ago.  it was about a month afterswamp ophelia came out.  great show."
her:  "what's your favorite song?"
me:  "definately "ghost" and then "you left it up to me."  how about you?"
her:  "well, everyone loves "closer to fine."  i really like "chickenman."

so i think to myself, 'ah, another amy person!  a kindred spirit!'
so, we converse about the ig, our concert experiences, and then she says, "so,
do you maybe want to go out sometime?  go to a dinner?  maybe catch a movie?"
and i say, "uh, well, yeah, as friends?"  and she says, "well, maybe more, you
know?"  and i said, "hey i'd hang out with you anytime, but as for more, i am
straight."  and she looks at me like i have 8 heads and says, "how come you
listen to the indigo girls if you are straight?"

uh, hello.  maybe because i like them!  ya know, it is kind of like people
saying, "you like the indigo girls?  but they're lesbians!"  so the hell what??
don't we, as a society, have a few more important things to worry about than
whether or not amy and emily are gay, or if i am straight and love amy and
emily's music?  i hate, absolutely hate, it when people like artists like amy
and emily, or melissa etheridge, or catie curtis, or tracy chapman or whoever,
based first and foremost on the artist's sexual preference.  who gives a shit?
i am not knocking what these artists, and other's like them, have done for
the gay/lesbian/bi community, because they have opened so many doors, but
sometimes i think, "have you ever heard the power in amy' voice?" or "haven't
emily's words just touched your heart and made you say 'that's how i feel!' ",
or thought "god, melissa etheridge just tells it so honestly!"  or "man, can
that kristen hall play the guitar!"  or do you just stand around and think
"boy is amy ray hot?"

i like may and emily because they are talented, because they talk to the
heart, because they speak true, not because they are gay.  i like them because
i liked them 9 years ago, before they nationally came out and told the
country they were gay.  i like them because i like them, and what i do in my
personaly life has no bearing on who i like musically either way.  should i
only like people like mariah carey and gloria estefan just because they are
heterosexual?  gimme a break.

and my gay brother feels the same way i do.  and he loves, absolutely loves,
bob seger.

climbing down off my soapbox now.  thanks for letting me bitch.

peace-

karrie

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subject:      please respond--nigc

is there a way to get accidently booted off the list?  i haven't received
any ig emails all day today or yesterday, i find this really strange--i
doubt that the line can just be really dead, so could someone, if they know
the answer to this please clue me in so i can resubscribe?

------feeling really computer illiterate today, tricia

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subject:      !!!

am i the only one with no messages. weird!
ben

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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      t-shirt news!

hey y'all... i talked to a friend of mine, who is an artist, and a big fan
of the girls.  she said she would be happy to do the artwork for us..all she
needs is the top ten list first.  i also have a friend who could do the
shirt printing at a minimal cost.  unless there is someone else out there
who would rather do the shirt, i would be happy to get this baby rolling!
so, unless anyone violently objects *she looks around the room for raised
hands* i look forward to
getting the top ten list! talk to me... feedback is good!

thanks y'all
tiff

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subject:      hte

i dont think this has been mentioned before but the honor1 cd is also
available on cassette tape

if any of you are having a hard time finding either the cd or the tape
you can always order it by calling the honor the earth 1-800# which is
1-800-earth07

thanks for your time
peace, russ

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subject:      new shirt ...

ugh -  no v-necks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please ????????

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subject:      [fwd: ig audio spotting]

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imagine my surprise when i was walking into computer city (of all places
to hear ig!) and after my brain kicks me out of the world i was in, i
realize that i hear "galileo" coming from the speakers of the store,
down every aisle, there it was playing for everyone to hear....then of
course i start singing along, not loudly of course, but who cares, i
dont get to report ig sightings very often........just thought you might
like to know.

don

viva la vie boheme!!

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subject:      someone's birthday...nigc

ponygirl's!  :)  tee hee - today (saturday) is her birthday, everyone wish
her happy indigos!
peace, love, and tortillas,
katy

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date:         thu, 7 nov 1996 03:19:25 -0800
reply-to:     "amy e. hannon" <litlbits@ix.netcom.com>
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subject:      new shirt...

hi,

this is the only thing i can think of right now:

"you know you're obsessed with the indigo girls if..."

everytime you go pass a music store you go directly to the "i" section
to see if a new album has come out without your knowledge.

i've done this too:  i would check under "i" and if they didn't have any
indigo girls in stock i would leave without buying what i went in there
for:)  (as if there is anything else worth getting!!!!)

well...it was just a thought!

amy

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subject:      demo shows...

i was wondering if anyone has copies of
austin tx
san antonio tx
dallas tx
las cruces, nm
santa fe nm
mesa az

and would be willing to trade or tape for me.  let me know....

peace
sasha

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subject:      shame on you

hey everyone...
just a question...ok.i'm not sure if this is the only show, but in the la
honor the earth show, they play it all acoustic, both guitars.  unlike some
of the demo tour shows, especially toward the end they had both electric
guitars with the distortion pumping.   which do you all like better ...???  i
think i like the acoustic version better, because the distortion...hmmm.. i
don't know.  i also like though at the no jazz fest where they played clean
electrics...what do you think it'll be like on the album???just listening to
the rain and thinking...

peace
sasha

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reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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subject:      where's all the mail?

hey, why is there no mail coming out of the list anymore?   i got the last
lot of mail off this list on thursday morning, and there was none
yesterday (friday) morning or this morning.   is it the list or is it just
my server?

mat

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sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

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subject:      amy's shirt

what does the t-shirt amy is wearing on the cover of n*i*s say?

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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indigo girl fans,
        i am looking for rare and hard to find indigo girls material.  i
would love to get audio copies of the following:
        1. the album "blue food" from @1985-86
        2. the album "don't eat out of dented cans" from 1987
        3. the interview tape "shades of indigo" with the songs "daddy's all
gone" and "melissa"
        4. the "reverse 1" cd (promo)
        5. the song "i'll give you my skin" from the 1991 compilation album
"tame yourself"
        6. "what the folk" (wrfg broadcast) from 1986 with "don't give up on
me,             baby"
        7. the "live at wrek" radio broadcast on february 27, 1989 with
"half-moon cafe"
        8. the "color me grey" album by amy ray from @ 1985 (with about 12
or            more songs on it by her!)

***also, i am looking for these particular songs which were all performed by
the indigo girls:
        1. "knockin' on heaven's door"
        2. "i shall be released"
        3. "don't think twice, it's alright"
        4. "love by you"
        5. "killing time"
        6. "high horse" (found on the 1987 version "strange fire")
        7. "heartache central time"
        8. "beauty to disaster"
        9. "make this house a home"
       10. "play it again, sam"
       11. "life's so strange"
       12. "white house blues"
       13. "summertime"
       14. "up in smoke"
       15. "the water is wide"
       16. "the ballad of squeaky fromme"
       17. "please call me, baby"
       18. "american tune"

        i would also like an audio copy of the gig in athens, ohio on april
12, 1995 where amy had a very long monologue to "chicken man" (which was put
onto the internet by dianne seibert and judith hunter).

        if anyone happens to have any of these, please write back to me.

                                                               thank you,
                                                               becky decker
                                                         parowr@worldnet.att.net

        p.s.-i would appreciate if you would type "becky" as the subject of
your reply.
robert w. parow

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subject:      songbooks?

i'm sorry if this question has been answered in the faq-- i haven't been able
to access it-- but does anyone know where to find ig songbooks? do they
exist?
thanks!

--rae

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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      error in list faq
x-cc:         debbie@mei.com, djarrell@ix.netcom.com, cmbecker@space.mit.edu,
              jlucero@monmouth.com

hi everyone,

just so everyone knows, "color me grey" was incorrectly listed
as having been recorded in 1982 in the list faq, rather than
1985 as it should have been.  this has since been corrected -
well done to deb "sharp eyes" reiser for spotting the mistake.

sherlyn

=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=
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       i take *everything* so seriously..."
                        - emily saliers
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subject:      where's the list?

helloooooo...

i can't get the list right now...is something wrong?  could someone who
gets this email me back?  i'm lost without this list....

cardigan


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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subject:      all i need to know about life... (long)

hi, y'all!

it's a saturday evening, and i've got nothing to do.  so,
i'm thinking about y'all, and missing y'all so much 'cause the list
is down.  then i remembered some talk a while back about a poster or
t-shirt of "all i need to know...," so i thought, "why don't i write
some stuff down?"  so, i went through the liners of every cd, looking
for life direction in the lyrics.  i found about one per song
(which you will find below), but there are so many more.  these are
just the ones i liked the most. :)

i made a few comments about some of these in parenthesis.  please
remember as you read that i have a sense of humor. ;)

stranger than an intimate chicken,
anna

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all i need to know about life i learned from the indigo girls.

- when you learn to love yourself you will dissolve all the stones
        that are cast.

- love is sweet.

- everybody loves a hero, an image to create, antithesis of everything
        inside ourselves we hate.

- if you think you know the answers, then you've got a lot of gall.

- if there's nothing to lose, then there's nothing to gain.

- it's hard not to rock the boat when you're sailing against the
        undertow.

- don't be throwing stones.  (ouch!)

- you can go to the east to find your inner hemisphere.

- the less i seek my source for some definitive the closer i am to
        fine.

- secure yourself to heaven.

- replace the need with love.

- my place is of the sun and this place is of the dark.

- what separates me from you?  (just a few electrons)  ;)

- nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal.

- your actions will follow you full circle round.

- so we must love while these moments are still called today.

- learn how to use my hands, not just my head.

- there's a devil monkey laying on our backs.

- don't let go, just plant the seeds and watch them grow.
        (i realize the credit for this should go to sejarez.)  ;)

- there's nothing like the southland in the springtime.

- nothing's for free.

- some things i hold too tightly.
        (like kittens and other small furry animals...)

- you'll never fly as the crow flies, get used to a country mile.

- emptiness brings fullness.

- a moment of peace is worth every war behind us
        (btw, in reference to the line of this song which says that the
   heart and the mind are on a parallel course and never the two shall
   meet, well, in hyperbolic geometry, parallel lines converge at an
   omega point.  i'm sure you all are fascinated by this mathematical
   concept.)  ;)

- god'll save me from losing myself.

- it doesn't really matter if the glass is half-full or empty 'cause
        pretty soon you're bound to spill it.

- three's a strange way to be delivered.
        (of course!  we all know that the power of two is much better.)

- if we wait for the time till all souls get it right then at least i
        know there'll be no nuclear annihilation in my lifetime.

- signals cross and love gets lost and time passed makes it plain.

- forget about your ego, forget about your pride, and you will never
        have to compromise.

- give back what you take.

- love will come to you.

- each life has its place.

- it's a long road to be forgiven.

- what you think won't happen will.

- we all have our dues.

- the president has no good idea who the masses are.
        (i think i'm really a closeted anarchist.)  ;)

- dig deep wells.

- we are fortunate ones.

- the hardest to learn was the least complicated.

- what i wouldn't give to have the things that mean the most not to
        mean the things i miss.

- no need for anger with intimate strangers.

- make new friends but keep the old.
        (i know, this is actually a camp song, but i hated the song until i
         heard power of two.)

- all i've heard has been in vain.

- we'll make it fine if the weather holds, but we'll have missed the
        point.

- not everything is better spoken aloud.

- don't you write it down remember this in your head.
        (hmm...sounds like something one of my profs said the other day...)


if you've made it this far, feel free to contribute your own!

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sorry..

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subject:      nigc - major mood swing........

hey all, just thought i would share the fact that i had been bummed all
day,    i mean seriously depressed, but now that i discovered the list is
back up and running, i am happy again, no joke, i just realized that my
down mood had disappeared and i was jovial again, think i'll go put
"rent" in and sing my guts out for a bit then go watch "watershed" as i
have rented it for the first time and might even decide that i have to
buy it!

thanks y'all, you guys and gals really made my day, well night really,
but same thing.

don

viva la vie boheme!!

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subject:      lilleth fair

has anyone heard anything (rumors, facts, anything) about the
all-female-billed show (organized by sarah mclachlan) supposedly touring the
u.s. next year? are
ig going to perform? it's reportedly a lollapalooza-type show, but w/out big
corporate sponsors, and only female performers...

-rachael

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subject:      re: ignorance is bliss    pt. 2

hey all!

i agree with you, karrie. that was uncalled for. maybe she was just =
sorely disappointed. or maybe she was embarrassed, then again, she could =
have just been a jerk. :)  my gf and i often use the "ig test" to check =
out new people at work, but not strictly for sexual orientation, mind =
you, because that's only accurate part of the time. it just seems that =
most ig fans turn out to be pretty nice people, regardless of who they =
do or don't sleep with.=20

karrie said:

i am not knocking what these artists, and other's like them, have done =
for
the gay/lesbian/bi community, because they have opened so many doors, =
but
sometimes i think, "have you ever heard the power in amy' voice?" or =
"haven't
emily's words just touched your heart and made you say 'that's how i =
feel!' ",
or thought "god, melissa etheridge just tells it so honestly!"  or "man, =
can
that kristen hall play the guitar!"  or do you just stand around and =
think
"boy is amy ray hot?"

actually, the answer to that is, all of the above (except for the me =
part!) i've never really gotten into her. sorry, no flames please!=20

have a nice day!

peace,
susan

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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subject:      re: amy's shirt

isn't that the one where she's wearing the husker du shirt?

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subject:        amy's shirt

what does the t-shirt amy is wearing on the cover of n*i*s say?

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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subject:      thread - world falls & southland

richard l. benson wrote:
>
> "so my question is where do people go that they want to or do sing/listen
> to/play world falls?  does the beauty keep shaking you, too?"
>
> i have a similar experience/feeling, but it's about "southland in the springtime."  i love to drive the blue ridge mountain parkway with the windows rolled down and the sunroof open, listening to that song.  it's one of the most beautiful places on earth (and very near helen...) and for me epitomizes that song.
>
> -rich
>
> p.s. ryan--i voted in my list shirt, too!!!
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about southland...
that is my all-time fav ig song, for many reasons.  aside from that
though, my girlfriend and i have a dream to travel, by car, the u.s.
whenever we drive on weekend trips (we live in eugene, or) we play
southland (amongst hours of ig) and dream about our someday travels. the
last time was a few weeks ago along the oregon coast, on a beautiful,
sunny october day. lush green forest lined our east, while an indigo sea
fell below west coast cliffs...ahhh wish i could show everyone the
beauty here!  this would be excellent for world falls too!
catherine

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subject:      chiapas bound lyrics

        hi...me again.  i guess i forgot to post these awhile ago, but once
again susan and jocelyn brought my greivous error into the light...

        jen

chiapas bound (ar)

        all the girls with anorexia are on the street tonight
        and the boys in the band think they look all right
        and i don't really know why i drove my car down congress boulevard
(sometimes it's avenue)
        hoping to find you turning on the light.

        well you seem like a girl with the world on her side
        but then it's just a point of view
        and you know how quickly that can change too
        see i heard you were free or someone thought you should be
        and i know just how that feels
        i thought maybe we could just talk for a while

        well they said that you go to mexico
        i think that i might go there too
        but it's probably too late to find someone like you

        yeah it sounds really cool to be without a care
        in some southern town
        but i heard there's trouble down there
        if you're chiapas bound

        yeah it sounds really cool to be without a care
        in some southern town
        but i heard there's trouble down there
        if you're chiapas bound

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subject:      re: amy's shirt

in a message dated 96-11-10 00:18:05 est, creechal@aslan.emu.edu
(chickensoprano) writes:

> what does the t-shirt amy is wearing on the cover of n*i*s say?
>

hi anna and all,

i assume you mean the back cover... i'm almost 100% positive that it says
husker du, bob mould's former group.  btw, for anyone who appreciates music
that's a little more head-banging, check out bm's group sugar's album copper
blue...quite enjoyable!

glad the list is up and running again :)  i didn't know what to do with all
the extra time i had ;)

-sheri :)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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subject:      re: map boots

hi folks!

gwendigo asked:
>>when was the first concert that ig started singing the new stuff, and how many
boots
with new materiel are out there?  i don't *think* they were doing new materiel
at nojf but i can't recall; was it newport?<<

actually, it *was* at nojf.  the new songs performed there were:  blood quantum,
get out the map, shame on you, don't give that girl a gun, chiapas bound....
um... i think that's it.  that's a good bit of the new material and those were
performed way back in the beginning of may.  the main reason i know this was is
because that was my first two ig concerts (though i count them as one cause they
were in the same vicinity!).  sorry, but that's about as insightful as i can be.
hope that helps cure your curiosity!!  : )

anyone who i owe boots to (which i don't think there are many of you), i'm
working on it... really.  i've just been busy.  geez, i haven't posted in a
loooong time.  hope everyone is jolly!!

peace and all that stuff,
tamara

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subject:      speaking of a's shirts...

does anyone know what that shirt of amy's that says "give me liberty!" is
all about? she wore it in the tmf video, and in several other photos and
interviews on watershed. it looks like an awesome shirt, but i can't figure
out what it's from.

:) abigail


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*  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
*   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
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subject:      re: map boots

the recent red light cafe boot (from '95, methinks) had don't give that girl
a gun and cara mia on it. i think that's all, but i could be wrong.


my how i've missed you all!

:) abigail
"it's good to be back!" ~e.s.
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subject:      devil monkey?

could someone enlighten me as to what exactly a devil monkey is? all the
visual images i keep coming up with of a satanic, red-eyed, rabid, furry
thing clinging to some poor person's back are just too scary!

:) abigail

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subject:      re: nigc weekend birthdays
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on fri, 8 nov 1996, karey weisman eals wrote:

> haha, the birthday goddess is ahead of schedule for once!
thats nice but you missed my bday of oct 31
hugs anthonyv an pyre

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subject:      native american astrology nigr

whoever posted this there was only part of it there can u send me all the
dates and what they mean nad the summerys for each sign please th anks

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subject:      nigc- ani tix

i knnow it's nigc.. pardon the bandwidth
hey i got an extra ticket to the boston
nov 24th ani show.. email privately please...
i dont want it to goto waste! anjeanette
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a love story is not about those who lose their heart but about those who
find that sullen inhabitant who, when it is stumbled upon, means the body
can fool no one, can fool nothing-not the wisdom of sleep or the habit of
social graces. it is a consuming of oneself and the past.
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subject:      re: favorite phrases in ig songs

fanny said:
>>i have often wondered if this song is about a real ghost, e.g. someone
who died, or if it's just a metaphor for a lost love.... anyone have any
thoughts about that - share it, please!<<

i always thought she was referring to someone living (a lost love or just
someone she is in love with, but scared to tell them), someone that she
cannot have in her life in the way that she would like to (or at all).  she is
in love with that person, but they don't feel the same (or perhaps they once
did, but their feelings changed).  the parts about "...now i see your face
before me...", "...bring your heart back to my island..." and "...with you
always at my heals..." makes me think this person is alive.  perhaps she is
close to them, but she is not willing to risk telling them that she (still?)
feels
this way (i.e., "...my bitter pill to swallow is the silence that i keep...").
they are within her grasp, passing through her and around her, yet they
are untouchable in a sense.  the fact that she has to live with this and not
tell that person, is causing inner torment.  this person might as well be a
ghost because all she can do is dream of what could be instead of what is.

that's always been my take on it.  sorry it's not very inspiring or insightfully

delivered, but school has fried my brain right now.  it's a very well-written
song and i could see it being taken either way... i always saw the metaphor
for lost or unattainable love.  emily rules!!.... and so does amy!!!  sorry, but

i like their work equally, so i can't comment on one without mentioning the
other somehow!  impartiality... it's a sickness...

that's it... anyone else care to comment?

tamara  ; )
(wow... two posts in one night... i'm getting dangerous!... must be time for
my computer to crash or something...)

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subject:      cut it out lyrics

        hi y'all!!  well all this down-time from the list has given me time
to organize a few things and with the help of susan and jocelyn, figured out
the "unofficial" lyrics to a few more songs...
        let me know if you agree (or disagree)...
                jen

cut it out

        i'm sitting in a darkened stairway
        you're down in the forty-eights
        i'm practicing politics
        you're practicing guitar and staying out late
        how'd we get so turned around?
        why did you make it so hard?
        i want to cut it out, i'm tender
        give me something good to remember

        hey my, my, my rock star
        i saw your feet leave the ground
        you said, "all i want to be is loud"
        i was, i was ushering your friends in
        i was, i was, i was trying to clear the aisles

        how'd you get so turned around?
        why did you make it so hard?
        i want you to cut it out, i'm tender
        give me something good to remember

        cut it out, cut it all out
        cut it out, cut it all out

        alaska in the summertime
        in the wintertime i'm free
        but the days get short, cold and wasted
        nowhere is warm enough for me

        baby, you tell me what happened?
        why did you make it so hard?
        i want to cut it out, you're tender
        give me something good to remember
                (this verse repeats with layered vocals and pronoun variations)

        cut it out. cut it all out now.
                (repeat until end, with layered vocals added in occassionally)

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subject:      cara mia lyrics

        hi once again...here's the cara mia lyrics...but a disclaimer comes
with this one...i've only heard early versions of it so the lyrics may have
changed a bit...
        enjoy...and once again thanks to susan and jocelyn...

                jen

cara mia

        cara mia
        a blank notebook and a backpocket faith
        you used to mock me
        sometimes i cried when i was home later

        cause you hurt my feelings
        why, why, why?
        you write it down in a notebook, my wanna-be harriet the spy

        some say your genius is in your madness
        will you get better and then will you leave us?

        how did my sweet angel get visited by a devil so young in age?
        and then in your chemistry, science and violence
        turned silence to rage

        why are you dreaming this?
        one shoe off and a bridge to cross over
        and where is your taxi fare?
        you left by yourself and left by your lover

        for three days straight i had both my shoes off
        but i've forgotten my words, i've forgotten my cues
        and a sea full of faces and a show to go on
        and i'm stuck at the entrance with nothing to draw from

        there are the secrets: the big bang and the bigger joke
        maybe you know all of them and injustice makes you red with choke
        but you love like you're desperate
        you don't know what love is
        i thought if there was one thing i could give you
        maybe it was this

        the head at the bedpost
        the anguished repeats
        the sweat of our sadness
        the twist of the sheets

        i don't think i want the best for you
        where do i fit in if you found it
        i pray a lot about these bad feelings inside, but i can't pray my
way                 through or around it
        pray a lot about these bad feelings inside, but can't pray my way
through or around it

        some say your madness is in your genius
        and will you get better and then will you leave us?

        i don't think i want the best for you
        where will i be in that when you found it?
        i pray a lot about these things in me,
        but i can't pray my way though or around it

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> fanny said:
> i have often wondered if this song is about a real ghost, e.g. someone
> who died, or if it's just a metaphor for a lost love.... anyone have any
> thoughts about that - share it, please!
>
well, this is what em said (at least, what i think she said) as her intro
to ghost during bumbershoot '91: "this is about someone who wants you,
someone who you'll never be able to get close enough to"
so, i guess that that implies that the person is living, and they both
love each other, but there's something there, one person is giving more
perhaps, one person is a little undecided or something, there isn't a
real devotion, and so the person in the song (not necessarily em, i think,
but may very well be) feels that she's in love with a ghost, a spirit that
just can never be grasped, something that she can never really get a hold
of, something she can't touch, something which comes and goes and can
never be tied down.
it's late, i don't know if this makes any sense...

veronica

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        i said it's 3 am, and it's good company
        hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me remember who i am

                                        -- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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date:         sun, 10 nov 1996 07:50:46 -0500
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subject:      wanted:  copy of gen'l foods promo

hey, y'all!  i saw becky's request for bootlegs just recently, and
thought i'd throw my two cents in.  i'm looking for a copy of the
famed general foods international coffees promo recording.  i have
several things to offer in trade, although if you have the gfic
recording you probably already have anything i could offer you.  ;-)
i'd be most thankful for a blank-and-sase offer from some kind soul
who has this.

i'd also love to get a copy of the live in san francisco recording,
but i know better than to ask for *that* one (snicker)!  if you've
got a gfic bootleg, drop me a line and we'll work something out.

deanna light
displaced atlantan in washington, dc
77light@cua.edu

ps:  paul, don't worry -- as soon as i get a copy of this, you'll get one
too.

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subject:      re: lilleth fair
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on sat, 9 nov 1996, rachael cannon wrote:

> has anyone heard anything (rumors, facts, anything) about the
> all-female-billed show (organized by sarah mclachlan) supposedly touring the
> u.s. next year? are
> ig going to perform? it's reportedly a lollapalooza-type show, but w/out big
> corporate sponsors, and only female performers...

well, i *have* heard of it (courtesy of the fte mailing list :) ), but i
don't know if a&e are playing it or not.  with my luck, they will.  and
then they'll decree that not only are only women playing it, but only
women will be admitted to see it - in which case i will be undergoing a
sex change operation, at least temporarily. :)

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date:         sun, 10 nov 1996 06:48:04 -0800
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from:         ann m labeck <aml@scn.org>
subject:      re: lilleth fair question (nigc)
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rachel asked:

> has anyone heard anything (rumors, facts, anything) about the
> all-female-billed show (organized by sarah mclachlan) supposedly
> touring the u.s. next year?

there's a link to specific info about this at:

http://www.nettwerk.com/artists/sarmc.html

ann

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subject:      trading

just started to read this list and just started trading tapes.  how does
this tape tree work and are there any readers who want to trade?  thanx

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subject:      re: favorite phrases in ig songs

at 04:15 am 11/10/96 -0500, veronica wrote:
>well, this is what em said (at least, what i think she said) as her intro
>to ghost during bumbershoot '91: "this is about someone who wants you,
>someone who you'll never be able to get close enough to"
i liked tamara's interpretation of this song and it sort of sounded right to
me, but then i read this post.
see... i've always thought the song was about being in love with someone who
would only want you for a physical thang, but never commit to you emotionally.
anyone ever been there? crazy making stuff that:-). you know the person
doesn't care for you in the same way you care for them but you're helplessly
caught up in your own needs + wants and you'd "walk into the fingers of"
her/his "fire willingly"... it's hopeless love/lust. it's amazing how much
of your sanity + yourself you'll sacrifice, swept up in this sort of thing,
and so e's words: "and dance the edge of sanity, i've never been this close,
in love with your ghost", really speak to this for me. also, the terrible
realization that you are not as self possessed and in control of your own
heart as you thought you were comes through in these words: "i know now how
it feels, to be weakened like achilles, with you always at my heel".
a ghost is something you can't hold on to. like in the movie ghost. the
longing for that love is so intense it hurts, but it can never be
possessed... funny, but i always get this song and lmaf confused in my
mind... they seem almost to be speaking to the same person at different
stages in the relationship. i'm probably way off, so somebody slap me.:)
peace y'all kim ( the goddess has put away her scissors... )
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put your hands in the air and step
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subject:      re: the librarian

sorry i'm late to post this but i thought i should comment.  first of all i'm
a huge reader and books play a major role in my life and sanity.  the best
anthology of lesbian literature i've read to date is _tasting life twice_
edited by e.j. levy published in softcover by avon.  i own 4 - or 5 of these
types of anthologies and the work in this collection is outstanding.   the
work is from some of the best current lesbian authors.  i recommend it
highly.

michelle

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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
subject:      re: new shirt! and nigc

listers,

i think that a long-sleeved t-shirt or a henley would be really cool.
i'm trying to get caught up on my 94 messages that i received this
morning.

guess what? my car got stolen. it's a piece of crap and i left it at my
house in lubbock because it was smoking, well...like my aunt. i get this
psychotic little thrill thinking the car theif is sitting in my car
while it is smoking everywhere. i think it's a sign from god that i
should get a motorcycle.

have a great week
amber

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subject:      map lyrics ...

ok ... everyone keeps posting the lyrics to the new stuff ....

i'm wondering if we should get together and post them all to the list again -
then when the new cd comes out we'll all now the words ....

what one's are we missing ??? ... here's my list of new songs - from what
boots i've got ....

amy:
hey kind friend
don't give that girl a gun
chiapas bound
cut it out
shame on you

emily:
it's alright
winthrop
get out the map
leeds
cara mia
going to the country
remember everything i told you or everything in it's own time (whatever it's
called)

am i missing anything ............ ????????????????

chris

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subject:      re: wanted:  copy of gen'l foods promo
x-to:         deanna light <77light@cua.edu>
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hi my name is deanna and id like a copy of      everthing the girls have
done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<g> dont worry deanna so do the rest of us<g>
hugs anthony van pyre


on sun, 10 nov 1996, deanna light wrote:

> hey, y'all!  i saw becky's request for bootlegs just recently, and
> thought i'd throw my two cents in.  i'm looking for a copy of the
> famed general foods international coffees promo recording.  i have
> several things to offer in trade, although if you have the gfic
> recording you probably already have anything i could offer you.  ;-)
> i'd be most thankful for a blank-and-sase offer from some kind soul
> who has this.
>
> i'd also love to get a copy of the live in san francisco recording,
> but i know better than to ask for *that* one (snicker)!  if you've
> got a gfic bootleg, drop me a line and we'll work something out.
>
> deanna light
> displaced atlantan in washington, dc
> 77light@cua.edu
>
> ps:  paul, don't worry -- as soon as i get a copy of this, you'll get one
> too..
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subject:      lilith fair (nigc)

names i heard are:
sarah mclachlan (of course)
neneh cherry
lisa loeb
aimee mann

cool!

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subject:      shame on you

ok i posted this yesterday, and i don't know if anyone got it or anything
like that.  so if you got this already...delete it  or let me know what you
think...

hey everyone...
just a question...ok.i'm not sure if this is the only show, but in the la
honor the earth show, they play it (shame on you)  all acoustic, both
guitars.  unlike some of the demo tour shows, especially toward the end they
had both electric guitars with the distortion pumping.   which do you all
like better ...???  i think i like the acoustic version better, because the
distortion...hmmm.. i don't know.  i also like though at the no jazz fest
where they played clean electrics...what do you think it'll be like on the
album???just listening to the rain and thinking...

peace
sasha

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date:         sun, 10 nov 1996 09:54:10 -0800
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subject:      world falls thread

world falls is one of my favorite songs for inspiration.  one of my
most memorable times listening was while driving to an environmental
law seminar near yosemite national park.  i was thinking through what i
was going to say about how far my agency (the environmental protection
agency) was willing to go to protect wetlands when world falls came up
on my car tape. i'd just reached one of the first of several
spectacular valley overlooks on the road to yosemite, so i of course
stopped the car for a sing a long.  after it was over, i put the car
back into gear while hammer and a nail started and went back to work on
my speech.

hugh barroll

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subject:      nigc:  re: here we go again:what to do if the list is down

ok everyone, with sharon's permission i am reposting something she wrote back
in september, the last time the list was down and everyone freaked.  if you
posted a "where's all the posts?" or "is the list down?" message in the last
few days then please pay careful attention to what you are about to read:

in a message dated 96-09-12 17:52:17 edt, sparke61@maine.maine.edu (sharoane)
writes:

> i do this about three times a semester now, it seems, but every time the
>  list stops coming new folks start panicking and i get flooded with
>  extra posts about why the list is down...
>    it happens often, so relax! if you stop getting the list for more than
> half
>  a day, email a fellow lister and ask that person if he/she is getting
>  the list. if not, then sit tight, it will return. if that person says
>  yes, then you should try to get help from the list.
>    this is my normal request, and i will start begging on my knees again
>  if no one listens, as every time the list gets stopped up and everyone
>  sends "what's going on?" posts my disk crashes and i have no email for
>  a few days-please don't panic, ok? wait out any list delays...it's not
>  the end of the world if you aren't getting the list for a day or so, and
>  be prepared for it to flood into your account when it does show up...
>  just because you arent' getting it doesn't mean that folks aren't
>  posting...
>      thanks for sitting through this yet again...:)
>       and welcome all you newbies:)
>                             sharon
>

now, i'm not an expert in cyber-phenomena but i would assume that the more
posts people send to a list that is down, the more slowly the list can get
back up on its cyberfeet...

thanks, sharon!

-sheri :)

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{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      there's a reason this exists, folks (nigc)

--- in the faq about use of the list, the wondrous sherlynn kindly wrote
:
14) what to do if you think the list is dead
the list server dies from time to time and is always restarted as
soon as the problem is discovered.  if you're not sure whether the
server is still running you should refrain from posting until you
receive proof that the server is up.  sending "is the list running?"
messages is pointless if the list is not running, and a waste of
bandwidth if it is.  if you want to confirm whether or not other
people have been receiving list mail, privately mail someone from the
list and ask them instead.
--- end of quoted material ---

please....honor this part of the faq...have a "buddy" to check with about the
list being down, and please do not post to the whole list! its soooooooo
supremely annoying!

venting compliments of,

susan

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subject:      re: favorite phrases in ig songs
x-to:         fanny <fanny@eld.se>
in-reply-to:  <3282e5fa.719d@eld.se>

emily says in a bootleg somewhere something like "this is a song about
love, a love you never had."
chris

>
> "and i feel it like a sickness how this love is killing me
> i walk into the fingers of your fire willingly
> we dance the edge of sanity;  i've never been this close
> i'm in love with your ghost"
>
> i have often wondered if this song is about a real ghost, e.g. someone
> who died, or if it's just a metaphor for a lost love.... anyone
> have any thoughts about that - share it, please!
>
> fanny
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date:         sun, 10 nov 1996 11:49:05 -0800
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subject:      re: harmonies
in-reply-to:  <v01540b06aea6338539be@[130.91.233.114]> from "andi" at nov 6,
              96 12:31:48 pm

i most often sing the melody, whoever's part it is, especially if i'm
singing by myself.  if i'm singing along to the album, though, i'll often
sing amy's harmony parts in emily's songs, since my range fits hers best
(an octave down, i think).  and then sometimes i'll sing those bits
where the "harmony" parts sort of cross over and become the melody, and
switch back when the parts re-cross.

tom

ps  welcome me
pps that's a great song, plus a hint that this is my first post to the list.
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          \/  where many paths and errands meet/and whither then? i cannot say
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date:         sun, 10 nov 1996 14:58:27 -0500
reply-to:     todd & connie tsuchiya <tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
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from:         todd & connie tsuchiya <tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
subject:      thanks for the faq!

just wanted to say a huge thanks to christopher becker
(cmbecker@space.mit.edu), dwayne jarrell (djarrell@ix.netcom.com), sherlyn
koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au), jen lucero (jlucero@monmouth.com) and deb reiser
(debbie@mei.com). for the incredible faq.

even a long-time list member and self-proclaimed ig expert like myself
learned some new things from such a comprehensive faq. thanks for going to
all the trouble... you rock!

connie
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subject:      re: error in list faq
in-reply-to:  <199611092352.kaa18294@cafu.fl.net.au> from "sherlyn koo" at nov
              10, 96 10:52:33 am

sherlyn koo wrote:
> just so everyone knows, "color me grey" was incorrectly listed
> as having been recorded in 1982 in the list faq, rather than
> 1985 as it should have been.  this has since been corrected -
> well done to deb "sharp eyes" reiser for spotting the mistake.

i think the 1982 date was a long-standing misunderstanding, not
just a typo, b/c i received my copy of cmg a few months ago
(thanks, c!) with the date 1982 on the homemade label, so i've
also been sending it out that way.  i guess i'd better fix it
before i send it out again. :-)

tom

ps thanks for the e-mail, deb!
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       \ _/__ now far ahead the road has gone/and i must follow if i can
        \\  / pursuing it with weary feet/until it joins some larger way
          \/  where many paths and errands meet/and whither then? i cannot say
                   -- jrr tolkien

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from:         sharon jennings <jennings_sharon/furman@furman.edu>
subject:      speaking of a's shirts...
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> does anyone know what that shirt of amy's that says "give me liberty!"
is
> all about? she wore it in the tmf video, and in several other photos
and
> interviews on watershed. it looks like an awesome shirt, but i can't
figure
> out what it's from.
>
> :) abigail

it's the cover of a graphic novel "give me liberty.... an american
dream" by frank miller. a good read but somewhat disturbing.....

sharon... the brit abroad.

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while we are on the subject of new songs......

does anyone have the lyrics to a new song that amy sang or even know
what the song was that she performed at a writers night at eddie's attic
back in june. that night amy, michael lorant, danille howle, sheila
doyle and anne richmond played. amy was shy about singing it because it
was new and wasn't sure if it was good enough. michelle told her that it
was a great song after she sang it. i know that someone taped the
show.... could that person please check their boot.

thanks
sharon... the brit abroad.

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subject:      help......please

hi everyone,
        sorry to take up space with this message, but i need help
unsubscribing from the ig digest.  i've gone through netspace.org, but i'm
told that i'm not subscribed to begin with.  i find this hard to believe
because i'm receiving digest reguarly.  i even contacted the administrator
per the netspace instructions.  no reply from the adminsitrator.  so, if
any of you have any advice or tips, i would gratefully welcome them.
i've been trying to unsubscribe for the longest time.  thanks.
-pete

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subject:      lc on the radio

i was just in my friend's room, & the radio was on y100 (100.3 fm in
philadelphia), & least complicated came on!  i got so excited b/c i never
listen to the radio, & when i actually do, ig is on!  my friend & i started
singing loudly. :)  i called my roommate too & told her to put it on too...

andi

p.s.-don't you just hate when you go to 7-11 for a slurpee, it spills all
over you, and you try to pay for it, but some girl stole your wallet, so
you have no money, so you just have to run out of the store & jump into a
bush? ;)

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              96 05:26:28 pm

andi wrote:
> p.s.-don't you just hate when you go to 7-11 for a slurpee, it spills all
> over you, and you try to pay for it, but some girl stole your wallet, so
> you have no money, so you just have to run out of the store & jump into a
> bush? ;)

andi, i wish you a better tomorrow.

y'all should now be envisioning a revival of _annie_.  emily as the title
role.  amy as....hmm.....molly?  sandy?  (before you get offended, think
about how much fun amy could have ruffing her way around the stage) i
can't quite see her as daddy warbucks (michael stipe maybe?) or miss
hannigan.

new thread:  what should a&e do as a followup to jesus christ superstar?
(if you say _cats_, specify which furry creature for each)

--audrey,
hoping this wasn't already a thread

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subject:      re: the sun'll come out...

>new thread:  what should a&e do as a followup to jesus christ superstar?
>(if you say _cats_, specify which furry creature for each)


i like this thread.  i was thinking maybe tommy.  amy as tommy (of course)
and maybe e could be a few different characters.  any suggestions?  i hope
ya'll are having a great day.

stacey
ae
virginia tech
"you can not teach a man anything;
you can only help him find it within himself." - galileo

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subject:      sweet relief ii

hi!
        i just thought i'd de-lurk for a moment to mention this cd. i
picked it up in a clearance rack at tower a while back, and boy...it's
depressing, isn't it? i mean, i haven't heard it mentioned a lot on the
list, but i love every song the girls have ever done. they could pick up
songs i hate and sing them and i would ove them, but this song is just a
bad bad idea. i can't even listen to this cd (seet relief ii). has anyone
else had this experience? it depresses me, and i need to pop in some faster
tunes to liven myself up before i sink so far into the doldrums that i
can't get out.... just my 2 cents...

                                        happy weekend!
                                        sherri


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subject:      color me grey

the correct date for the 'color me grey' tape is 1982.  one of the folks on
the list posted last year that they had actually seen an original tape and
it was copyrighted 1982.

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subject:      huh????

i was just wondering if anyone received the thread i tried to start
about sitting in on a session with the girls.........it was sent while
the list was just coming back up and i am curious if anyone received
it......please let me know by email.....

don

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tamara says:
> someone that she
>  cannot have in her life in the way that she would like to (or at all).
she
> is
>  in love with that person, but they don't feel the same (or perhaps they
once
>  did, but their feelings changed).

no doubt about it tamara!!!  i fell in love with the indigo girls just last
year thanks to hearing "ghost" (after that i bought rop, and then all the
others!)-- i honestly think it was sent into my life at the moment i needed
it the most;  i understood the first time because everything i was feeling
was expressed perfectly by emily.  i don't think any song has ever come close
to having the same impact on me that ghost has-- i'm getting all teary just
thinking about it so i better go.....
thanks for dealing with my ramble!
sam

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subject:      my friends and the girls

hi y'all

despairing of ever finding anyone in southern australia who knows who a&e
are, i went to a political party dinner on friday night and discovered that one of
the guys i work with occassionally thinks they're really cool

on sat night i went out with my 'sister' dani and found whilst ratting through
her tapes that she has 'em and adores them

i'm rapt !!!!!!

if any of you ever talk to them - tell them to come back to australia

sue

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subject:      re: the sun'll come out...

at 06:50 pm 11/10/96 -0500, audrey wrote:
>new thread:  what should a&e do as a followup to jesus christ superstar?
>(if you say _cats_, specify which furry creature for each)
hmmm... now, i'd love to hear the girls sing memories... but uh which one
would be more suited to play that sad ol' forgotten kitty? hmmm... i see it
more as an e thang... amy'd have to be rum tug tugger... (s'been a while +
i'm not too familiar with the kitty-characters from cats... )
i've aleady said, in a past post, that i think it'd be a hoot if the girls
did grease :-) ( anyone see it with rosie o'donnel as rizo??? <sp?>.... now
*who* of a+e would fill those campy shoes???? ) :-)
what i *don't* see them doing... seven brides for seven brothers... :-)
peace all... kim...
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      <just kim>rcn@prcn.org
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put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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subject:      re: color me grey

>the correct date for the 'color me grey' tape is 1982.  one of the folks on
>the list posted last year that they had actually seen an original tape and
>it was copyrighted 1982.

well i'm going to challenge this for several reasons. amy graduated high
school in 82 and then went to vanderbilt. she left vandy to return to
atlanta in 83.  i have always taken nashville to be about her leaving. i
recall amy saying that the song was written in 84 and sherlyn can back that
up with a quote in which amy introduces nashville as saying "this is a song
from 1984."   so unless nashville was a late addition to an earlier version
of cmg, the 1982 date just doesn't fly.

deb

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subject:      re: color me grey

hey everyone,

deb reiser said:
>well i'm going to challenge this for several reasons. amy graduated high
>school in 82 and then went to vanderbilt. she left vandy to return to
>atlanta in 83.  i have always taken nashville to be about her leaving. i
>recall amy saying that the song was written in 84 and sherlyn can back that
>up with a quote in which amy introduces nashville as saying "this is a song
>from 1984."   so unless nashville was a late addition to an earlier version
>of cmg, the 1982 date just doesn't fly.

i'm with deb on this.  the quote she mentions is from the rop press
kit, where amy says, "this is a song from 1984 which never exactly
fit in with an album before.  i wrote it when i was in college at
vanderbilt university..."  so it would seem that the 1982 copyright
is either an error, or some earlier version of the tape - anyone have
any further info?

oh, there's also been another change to the faq - the philly show
where the "reunion" quote was taken from was december 12, 1994
not march 12, 1994.  we had a bit of confusion with the differences
between the european and american system of writing dates, sorry. :)

best to all,
sherlyn

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"god looks like a guidance counsellor, god's got that smile.
  god says, 'how could this be?  that's really odd.
  i guess i'll have to check my records,
  silly me, you know, i'm only god..."      - dar williams

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subject:      butch (nigc)

this is for anybody who wants to listen to me.  it's me kind of
getting a lot of my chest about my past and present insecurities
about the way i wanted to be and look and feel.  the reason i'm
posting it is because i know that many of the people on this list
will know where i'm coming from without having to know me.

i'm 15 years old and i'm a butch girl.  the hardest thing about
being butch and something that has always been a conflict for me is
high school.  comments, slurs, they wear you down and when you look
and act like a stereotype you get treated like one.  i'm fortunate
because i just don't care.  for a long time i was afraid to dress and
look the way i wanted to.  i was afraid of what other people would
say or think.  i don't care what anyone says the 90's is a time of
insecurity and so are the teenage years.  it's a lot of pressure.
when i came out i slowly began meeting people that were like me.
going places where there were other women butch, femme and everything
in between.  i have found myself and even though there are those who
hate to label. those of you  who think of the terms butch and femme
as old school lesbianism and who just don't want to hear it anymore.
it's okay you know.  i don't mind that you don't like it i really
don't.  but the word butch means a lot to me because it was something
that i was so insecure about for a long time.  something that made me
take an extra 10 minutes looking in the mirror when i was getting
dressed for school and saying, "is this to masculine"  "can i do this?
"  the word butch means a lot to me because it told me that there was
at least one other women in the world who the phrase had been
targeted at and that i wasn't the only one.  i don't mind being
called butch anymore because that's what i am and it's as much a part
of me as the color of my hair and my eyes and the music i listen to
and the women i love.  so i don't mind it anymore.

thanks for listening,

gwen

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please add me to your mailing list.  thank you.

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subject:      re: out in the south (fwd)

got this the other day. anyone interested in going can e-mail me
privately.

sharon


> --begin forwarded message--
> > i am organizing a forum called out & proud!, a community forum on youth and
> > sexual orientaiton. the forum is saturday, november 16 at the friends
> > meetinghouse in decatur (701 w. howard avenue). following registration,
> > bagels & coffee, we open the day with a panel of young people talking about
> > their issues and perspectives. emily saliers of the indigo girls is the lunch
> > speakers. in the afternoon, there are four small groups for young people only
> > (up to 26 years old) on coming out, spirituality, family issues and sexuality
> > and safe sex. there are two sessions for adult allies -- school issues and
> > p-flag's project open mind.
> >
> > i encourage you to preregister by calling 404.688.5525 ext. 3021. leave your
> > name, address, phone # and whether or not you want to buy a bag lunch ($6.00
> > got turkey sandwich, fruit, cold pasta and a brownie). also, encourage
> > friends that are interested to preregister to save a space. we want and need
> > young people to attend. over 100 people -- mostly adults -- have
> > preregistered.
> >
> > call if that would be helpful to you. you may also request a flier on the
> > forum. make sure to leave your mailing address.
> >
> > i will be out of the office on friday and monday.
> >
> > thanks for your interest.
>
>
>

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in a message dated 96-11-10 11:34:33 est, arbatson@hsutx.edu (hsu amber r.
batson) writes:

<< i think that a long-sleeved t-shirt or a henley would be really cool. >>

list shirts!

this post reminded me of a dream that i had last night.
i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was on the
front.

premonition?  you decide...

jan <---who needs a life.

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> this post reminded me of a dream that i had last night.
> i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
> written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was on the
> front.

why waste the front? are there any really great pictures of amy and emily
which you think would be perfect for the shirt? perhpas something
relating to the text on the back...

peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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from:         "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
subject:      a wild idea

since quite a few of us have web pages, and there's usually substantial ig
content on each one of them, what would y'all think about having a webring?
not only would it help promote ig's music, it would also show the world
who the real live ig fans are!

a late sunday night rant,
mary

p.s.  i dread this week coming up.  hellllllp!!!

*******************************************************
mary elizabeth kushman
http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

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"i said, don't, don't give that girl a gun..."--amy ray
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>> i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
>> written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was on the
>> front.
>
>why waste the front? are there any really great pictures of amy and emily
>which you think would be perfect for the shirt? perhpas something
>relating to the text on the back...
>

        i like this idea...ig down the sleeves, top ten on the back, and the
"fun" shot of amy and emily from the back of nis on the front...i want one
asap!!!

        jen

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from:         jazz <jasmine.ma@yale.edu>
subject:      re: i am dreaming of...

>        i like this idea...ig down the sleeves, top ten on the back, and the
>"fun" shot of amy and emily from the back of nis on the front...i want one
>asap!!!
>
i second, except "indigo girls" written all the way out down the sleeve.
it's great
jazz

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hey guys.....

i would love to see the ig and friends do les miserables.  amy could be
javert, emily could be fontaine, michael lorant is valjean, and a newcomer...
kristen hall as eponine.....

ya'll fill in the rest!

peace-


karrie


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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 15:37:39 +1000
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thanks to the person who posted the details of this book:

>in another part of the forest : an anthology of gay short fiction /
>[edited by] alberto manguel and craig stephenson. new york : crown trade
>paperbacks, 1994. isbn 0-517-88156-x
>price $20, but i got it on the discount table for about $5

oh, now i'm embarrassed! how the hell did i ever think it was by
harper collins?! this is the book i was talking about last week.
bought it second hand, so scout your local s/hand bookstore too guys.
this book is great reading.

highly recommended. sam, this is what you might want to read.

cheerio!
your local pagan/astrologer/naughty person/crotchwatcher/indigo girlie
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subject:      dream shirts

i've summarized the shirt discussion below.  sounds like long sleeve is
the way to go.  indigo girls written down one sleeve (simply yet
creatively, i think).  list on the back.  artwork, photos, and the front
are the remaining questions.  add your votes and suggestions.  i think
the shirt will be classier and much more versatile with nothing on the
front.  a long-sleeve henley would be especially neat.  am i the only one
tired of reading someone's chest rather than looking at their eyes,
merely because reading is so much more instinctual than eye contact?  i
had an idea about the art though....for my high school yearbook page i
drew a negative strip and put pictures inside it and it looked really
cool.  how about that on the back, vertical to the left or right of the
list, with either photos (could be enhanced or polarized with photoshop)
or drawings or both in the frames?  or computer-drawings like the coyote
in marianne's new .sig?   also--since it's long sleeve, can we make
reference to amy's tatoo on the inner left arm?  is that too cheesy?
--audrey

amber's vote:
> << i think that a long-sleeved t-shirt or a henley would be really cool. >>
>
jan's:
> this post reminded me of a dream that i had last night.
> i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
> written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was on the
> front.

peter's question:
why waste the front? are there any really great pictures of amy and emily
which you think would be perfect for the shirt? perhpas something
relating to the text on the back...

jen's vote:
i like this idea...ig down the sleeves, top ten on the back, and the
"fun" shot of amy and emily from the back of nis on the front...i want one
asap!!!

jazz's support:
i second, except "indigo girls" written all the way out down the sleeve.

guinione's request:
ugh -  no v-necks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tiff offers some help with the hard stuff:
hey y'all... i talked to a friend of mine, who is an artist, and a big fan
of the girls.  she said she would be happy to do the artwork for us..all she
needs is the top ten list first.  i also have a friend who could do the
shirt printing at a minimal cost.

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if possible i would like anything "indigo girls" sent to me-----especially a concert calendar!  i love amy and emily.  my friends and i saw them perform at the mid-hudson civic center in new york. i was allowed on stage with a few other girls from the audience and got the chance to kiss emily on the cheek, it sounds silly but i will never forget it! they are so talented; my sister and i have listened to them for so long together and i have introduced their music to many of my friends. i hope to soon see them in concert again. thank you.
                                           sincerely,
                                           katie paolercio

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how abotu ig down one sleeve and the cds  down the other side since it is
long sleeved

on mon, 11 nov 1996, audrey stein wrote:

> i've summarized the shirt discussion below.  sounds like long sleeve is
> the way to go.  indigo girls written down one sleeve (simply yet
> creatively, i think).  list on the back.  artwork, photos, and the front
> are the remaining questions.  add your votes and suggestions.  i think
> the shirt will be classier and much more versatile with nothing on the
> front.  a long-sleeve henley would be especially neat.  am i the only one
> tired of reading someone's chest rather than looking at their eyes,
> merely because reading is so much more instinctual than eye contact?  i
> had an idea about the art though....for my high school yearbook page i
> drew a negative strip and put pictures inside it and it looked really
> cool.  how about that on the back, vertical to the left or right of the
> list, with either photos (could be enhanced or polarized with photoshop)
> or drawings or both in the frames?  or computer-drawings like the coyote
> in marianne's new .sig?   also--since it's long sleeve, can we make
> reference to amy's tatoo on the inner left arm?  is that too cheesy?
> --audrey
>
> amber's vote:
> > << i think that a long-sleeved t-shirt or a henley would be really cool. >>
> >
> jan's:
> > this post reminded me of a dream that i had last night.
> > i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
> > written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was on the
> > front.
>
> peter's question:
> why waste the front? are there any really great pictures of amy and emily
> which you think would be perfect for the shirt? perhpas something
> relating to the text on the back...
>
> jen's vote:
>  i like this idea...ig down the sleeves, top ten on the back, and the
> "fun" shot of amy and emily from the back of nis on the front...i want one
> asap!!!
>
> jazz's support:
> i second, except "indigo girls" written all the way out down the sleeve.
>
> guinione's request:
> ugh -  no v-necks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> tiff offers some help with the hard stuff:
> hey y'all... i talked to a friend of mine, who is an artist, and a big fan
> of the girls.  she said she would be happy to do the artwork for us..all she
> needs is the top ten list first.  i also have a friend who could do the
> shirt printing at a minimal cost.
>
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reply-to:     "stacey l. vamvas" <svamvas@vt.edu>
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subject:      re: dream shirts

i second this one.  i don't think there should be anything on the front.  i
think some kind of artwork on the back, under the writing would be cool.  i
just think a picture is too much.

stacey


>how abotu ig down one sleeve and the cds  down the other side since it is
>long sleeved
>
>on mon, 11 nov 1996, audrey stein wrote:
>
>> i've summarized the shirt discussion below.  sounds like long sleeve is
>> the way to go.  indigo girls written down one sleeve (simply yet
>> creatively, i think).  list on the back.  artwork, photos, and the front
>> are the remaining questions.  add your votes and suggestions.  i think
>> the shirt will be classier and much more versatile with nothing on the
>> front.  a long-sleeve henley would be especially neat.  am i the only one
>> tired of reading someone's chest rather than looking at their eyes,
>> merely because reading is so much more instinctual than eye contact?  i
>> had an idea about the art though....for my high school yearbook page i
>> drew a negative strip and put pictures inside it and it looked really
>> cool.  how about that on the back, vertical to the left or right of the
>> list, with either photos (could be enhanced or polarized with photoshop)
>> or drawings or both in the frames?  or computer-drawings like the coyote
>> in marianne's new .sig?   also--since it's long sleeve, can we make
>> reference to amy's tatoo on the inner left arm?  is that too cheesy?
>> --audrey
>>
>> amber's vote:
>> > << i think that a long-sleeved t-shirt or a henley would be really cool. >>
>> >
>> jan's:
>> > this post reminded me of a dream that i had last night.
>> > i dreamed that the new list shirts were long sleeved with "indigo girls"
>> > written down the sleeve and the top ten list on the back.  nothing was
on the
>> > front.
>>
>> peter's question:
>> why waste the front? are there any really great pictures of amy and emily
>> which you think would be perfect for the shirt? perhpas something
>> relating to the text on the back...
>>
>> jen's vote:
>>  i like this idea...ig down the sleeves, top ten on the back, and the
>> "fun" shot of amy and emily from the back of nis on the front...i want one
>> asap!!!
>>
>> jazz's support:
>> i second, except "indigo girls" written all the way out down the sleeve.
>>
>> guinione's request:
>> ugh -  no v-necks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> tiff offers some help with the hard stuff:
>> hey y'all... i talked to a friend of mine, who is an artist, and a big fan
>> of the girls.  she said she would be happy to do the artwork for us..all she
>> needs is the top ten list first.  i also have a friend who could do the
>> shirt printing at a minimal cost.
>>
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subject:      sigc:  re:  sweet relief ii

sherri wrote:
>>i can't even listen to this cd (seet relief ii). has anyone
else had this experience? it depresses me...<<

hmm... i thought the cd was pretty good.  of course, i only listen to about five
of the songs on any regular basis.  maybe that's why it doesn't depress me too
much (i listen selectively); i don't know.  i first liked the song that garbage
did...  perhaps more of the songs would depress me (like "free of hope," which
ig did) if i could actually tell what they were saying.  does anyone know or
have the words??  i can only make out portions of some songs (i.e., free of
hope, panic pure, gravity of the situation).  i'm making up some pretty stupid
lyrics just so that i can sing along... it's sad.  someone, who is either
familiar with vic chesnutt or has good ears for lyric-deciphering, please help
me!! (sorry this isn't total igc, but i can't understand what they're singing in
much of free of hope either.)

tamara

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subject:      re: dream shirts

amber says,
"the tattoo idea would be too cheezy!  i want a henley with indigo girls
down the left arm and 7 'you might be an obsessed indigo girls fan'
reasons.  you have to include mine that said, 'if you are tempted to
steal the black indigo girls cd divider from your local music store.'
because it's cool and i started this thread (is someone being immature?
yes:d) the fun n*i*s picture would bee cool under the text because it's
a fun shirt."
have a good week (immature freshman girl has a research paper due
friday) i know i won't
amber :)

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subject:      dream shirt

procratsination, whatta fascination...
hello!
meeeeee toooooo is added on to this
lengthening list of i wannas
i wanna long sleave w/ ig (written fully inscript)
and the top obsessed list on the back
and in case you forgot.. (and i have a feeling we
will prolly have to vote) here's my obsessed post again

you know when you are obsessed when you wonder how much
it would cost to buy the new ford indigo concept
car, paint it blue, and put the ig logo on the front

(anyone seen this car btw? it looks like the old
indy race cars...nnnnnnnnrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmm)

yes i have a paper,
yes i have ig playing to prevent me
from harming myself along the way
anjeanette (who has had too little sleep and too many papers)
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i only listen to sweet relief when i'm in a kind of depressed mood
and i want to hear music of the same "genre'" it voices the feeling
and allows everything to be taken a little more impersonally.  i
rarely listen to it anymore though.  i guess i haven't needed it : )

gwen

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subject:      next ig musical

        after jcs, what could the ig do?  hmmm.... the wizard of oz.  amy
could be the tin man (i just can't see her skipping down the yellow brick
road <g>), emily _could_ do dorothy, michael lorant would make a great
cowardly lion, and michelle malone could be the scare crow.  yeah!  caroline
aiken would be a great wicked witch.  oh, yeah, i can just hear emily
warbling, "somewhere over the rainbow".  if oz sounds doable, how about the
"sound of music" ?  i can just see them all lined up singing do re mi.  i
just love this thread. <bg>  no offense intended - i think anything they
choose would be fabulous since they seem to give 100% effort to any project
take on.
        obviously i'm in a regressive mode this morning.  don't want to be
grownup and prepare my reseach papers for my graduate classes.  :-(
        for those of you in the san antonio area, sara hickman is playing
cibolo creek country club on saturday, november 16th.
        back to your regularly scheduled posters...
divinely inspired, devilishly run,

karen

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subject:      re: color me grey
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              11, 96 12:25:58 pm

the song nashville was not on the *original* color me grey. keep in mind
there are 7 of these in the world. i believe tricia (henson??? from
washington/stayed for a year in atlanta) posted the different setlists
sometime either late last year or early this year. cmg is definitely '82
because i remember someone saying it would have been recorded around the
summer between high school and college. there is a hint of this when amy
wrote in the liner notes of 1200 about the extension sessions.  there are
also alternate demos for most of the stuff on the b-band tape and (kinda
letting a surprise out here..live versions of "back together again" and
"tuesday's children". i will seed this tape to someone this week)
(this week is a week from hell) (but for those people (deb and ponygirl) i
will email you separately)
so the 1982 date could be very conceiveable...but what were they doing
between 82 -85????
mike r.

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subject:      bumbershoot '96 request

hi all!  a newbie here.  great list, btw.

would anyone happen to have the girls at bumbershoot '96.
i have some stuff to trade (nig, unfortunately).  if anyone
is interested in a trade, please e-mail me privately
(jwolfenden@clarku.edu).

many thanks.  it's great to be here.

j.

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subject:      re: next ig musical
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my vote for the next ig musical would definitely be godspell.  it would be
great to have an all folk cast, including maybe ani difranco.  it's a
greate musical...has anyone else mentioned it?  is anyone else familiar
with it?

cardigan


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
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on sun, 10 nov 1996, cee wrote:

> names i heard are:
> sarah mclachlan (of course)
> neneh cherry
> lisa loeb
> aimee mann
>
> cool!
>
i also heard paula cole might be on the bill...(:

happy day,
jennie

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subject:      welcome shirt

well here's an idea i'll throw out. i like the idea of long sleeve shirts
with the list on the back, but i feel we really should utilize space on the
front. i agree that it's annoying when the front of a shirt is cluttered
with writing, but how about a fun picture of amy and emiy and a message
like, "welcome back girls, love indigo-girls@netspace.org"
then we could wear the shirts to concerts when they tour again and show
support from the mailing list.
whadday'all think?

:) abigail
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 10:59:18 -0500
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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: the sun'll come out...

in a message dated 96-11-10 18:55:03 est, abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu
(audrey stein) writes:

>
>  new thread:  what should a&e do as a followup to jesus christ superstar?

my vote is for grease, emily of course as sandy and amy as rizzo.   michael
could be danny zuko, and i haven't decided who would play frenchie or the
other pink ladies....but we could get some of the folks who were at newport
this summer to be the extras- m. sexton, p. larkin, c. wheeler, suzanne, ani,
michelle, and lisa loeb.  ooh, don't forget mm!  i think she was born to
hand-jive, baby ;)

yay!  i'm going to see les mis in three weeks, 4 days, 8 hours, and 10
minutes!  i reserve the right to change my vote after that.

as an alternate, i vote for the wizard of oz.  there's no place like home...
oh, no i just had a thought: fiddler on the roof!  oh my god, that would be
fabulous!  ok i'm done now.

have a good day, everyone.  myself, i have a test later so i'd better stop
procrastinating.

-sheri :)

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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      re: next ig musical
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in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.95.961111095642.12598b-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

> my vote for the next ig musical would definitely be godspell.  it would be
> great to have an all folk cast, including maybe ani difranco.  it's a
> greate musical...has anyone else mentioned it?  is anyone else familiar
> with it?

this is a /great/ choice! godspell has somewhat of a similar flavor to
jcs, but is a bit lighter. i could also see chess being done or possibly
hair. what do you think?

jen

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subject:      re: lilleth fair

on  sun, 10 nov 1996 08:08:20,  doug shaw writes in response to lilleth fair:


>well, i *have* heard of it (courtesy of the fte mailing list :) ), but i
>don't know if a&e are playing it or not.  with my luck, they will.  and
>then they'll decree that not only are only women playing it, but only
>women will be admitted to see it - in which case i will be undergoing a
>sex change operation, at least temporarily. :)

if it turns out that the lilleth fair is an "only women thing", i doubt the
girls would participate, so don't go scheduling that sex change just
yet.......

betsy

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subject:      nigc: barbara kessler pre-natal tour

many apologies if this is a repost, but with the list trying to
recover from its backlog, i don't know if this made it to the list or
not.

                                -- chris


============

this hit my mailbox this morning.  the mini-tour is primarily in the
northeast, but there is also a plug for a cool compilation album....
congrats to barbara on the soon-to-be-born!

                                -- chris


> from folkwithjb@aol.com wed nov  6 03:46:40 1996
> subject: barbara kessler final shows!
>
> hi everybody,
>
> barbara kessler will perform a few more shows this month and then take a much
> deserved maternity leave.  (yes, that's right maternity!)  barbara is due on
> january 5th.  she's getting a bit to large to play guitar much longer.  these
> final shows should be fun and many will have her trio along for the ride.
>
> notion and stranger cd's are available direct form eastern front records at a
> reasonable discount via mail order (800) 337-3747.  (hint: they make great
> christmas gifts.)  also look for bk on putamayo presents "women's work".
>  this is a great compilation with many cool folks including ani difranco,
> catie curtis, janis ian, kristen hall, laura love, ferron, toni childs and
> many more!
>
> if your looking for the perfect stocking stuffer or a very strange christmas
> card, please write us for more info about our christmas compilation featuring
> 14 of your favorite holiday tunes performed on rubber band with some special
> office equipment accompaniment including rulers, soda cans, scissors etc.
>  this is a must for every serious cd collector.  they are available for $4.99
> s&h or ten for $40.  come complete with special musical rubber band, enclosed
> gift card as well as directions.  we will have them at gigs as well.
>
> schedule follows:
>
> hi!  these are the last shows b.c. (before child.)  come on out and say hi
> but no labor stories unless they are short and painless ( the labors and the
> stories....)  bk
>
> sunday november 10  7pm
> the muse at the grey goose ii
> 2 young road, londonderry nh  (603) 437-6085
>
> tuesday november 12  8:30pm
> johnny  d's
> 17 holland, davis square, somerville ma  (617) 776-2004
> with mica richards opening
>
> saturday november 16  8pm
> the new moon coffeehouse
> 16 ashland st. haverill ma  (508) 372-5173
>
> monday november 18  8pm
> slates restaurant
> 167 water  st. hallowell  me  (207) 662-9575
>
>  saturday november 23  8pm
> the left bank cafe
> blue hill me
> benefit for weru community radio.
> everybody gets a free cd! $15 (207) 374-2201
>
> peace
> philip antoniades
> artist development associates inc.
> formerly johnny brock management
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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on sun, 10 nov 1996, audrey stein wrote:

> andi wrote:
> > p.s.-don't you just hate when you go to 7-11 for a slurpee, it spills all
> > over you, and you try to pay for it, but some girl stole your wallet, so
> > you have no money, so you just have to run out of the store & jump into a
> > bush? ;)
>
> andi, i wish you a better tomorrow.
>
> y'all should now be envisioning a revival of _annie_.  emily as the title
> role.  amy as....hmm.....molly?  sandy?  (before you get offended, think
> about how much fun amy could have ruffing her way around the stage) i
> can't quite see her as daddy warbucks (michael stipe maybe?) or miss
> hannigan.

amy should be pepper, you know, that cool older dark-haired girl who's
more in charge around the orphanage--

never mind me, i was exposed to annie at a very impressionable age; my
sister and i played orphans all the time and wanted orphan clothes, and
wanted to be orphans.  i wonder how that made my mom feel?  ;]

the lone coyote

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subject:      dream shirts

to put in my $.02, i like the long sleeves idea.  i like the top 10 list.
i hate the idea of the "fun" nis picture on the front. (sorry, jen :)  am i
the only one who doesn't like this picture?  i can stand having it on the
back of the cd, but i don't think i'd walk around w/ it on my shirt.  amy
just looks so...strange...for lack of a better word.  maybe something else
(i'm not sure what) would look better on the front.  and i think putting
the tattoo on the sleeve is going a little overboard...it would be too
busy...but i like the overall idea... :)

andi

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subject:      ever curious....

this is directed to all of the "boot" fanatics out there in list-land (by
definition:  those who need to have all the boots).  have any of you taken
the time to compile a map compilation tape that might mimic the released
product, having chosen the best and most clear versions of these songs,
arranged in a sensical order, and potentially including any introducing the
girls may have done (like 1200 curfews)?  i know if i had all the boots,
this is something i would try to do.  i think this would be way cool!! and
by no means a substitute for the real thing, which we will all gobble up
upon release.  it would be fun to see how it compares to the real thing.
would be an awesome tape tree deal too

just curious.....

betsy (too bootless to try this at home...)

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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      re: dream shirts

        hi all...even though this thread is kind of pushing the limit, if it
does come about it'll be worth it.
        yesterday i posted about it and want to change my mind now...yep...i
can do that; it's still a free world!!

        i vote for (this is my official vote) for a long-sleeve t-shirt
(heavyweight of course) in a subdued, earthy color (forest green or maroon)
with indigo girls on the left sleeve (with the 1200 curfews script).  the
front should have something simple in small print either centered or on the
left side (either obsessed fan or ig), and the back should have the top ten
(or seven or whatever) and then either a thank you to amy and emily at the
bottom or something like that...then of course an advertisement/proud
acknowledgement that this is a listserv product...

        guess i've been thinking about this a bit...

        peace
                jen

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subject:      re: dream shirts

jen lucero wrote:
>
>         hi all...even though this thread is kind of pushing the limit, if it
> does come about it'll be worth it.
>         yesterday i posted about it and want to change my mind now...yep...i
> can do that; it's still a free world!!
>
>         i vote for (this is my official vote) for a long-sleeve t-shirt
> (heavyweight of course) in a subdued, earthy color (forest green or maroon)
> with indigo girls on the left sleeve (with the 1200 curfews script).  the
> front should have something simple in small print either centered or on the
> left side (either obsessed fan or ig), and the back should have the top ten
> (or seven or whatever) and then either a thank you to amy and emily at the
> bottom or something like that...then of course an advertisement/proud
> acknowledgement that this is a listserv product...
>
>         guess i've been thinking about this a bit...
>
>         peace
>                 jen
>
> --
>hi everyone!

i really like jen's idea...something small on the front...i can't wait
to get one!!

amy

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subject:      dream sleaves

how about taking the tatoo
and placing it in the middle of the back
small like (either above or below the list)
as like the signiture instead of a phjoto
(photomajor here.. it would need to be
high quality for it to transfer well, and most
dont transfer at all) the tatoo, in b/w would though
(transfer weell
justa coupla pennies
anjeanette
(who makes t=shirts all the time.. and loves this idea)
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subject:      amy putnam (nigc)

hey all,
sorry for the bandwidth everyone.  amy putnam, could you please email me
personally?  i have some questions regarding the newport photos of lynn
martin.
thanks,
maggie

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i agree that the long sleeves are a good idea, but i vote for the color
blue (indigo!) with white lettering!! i also like the idea of the comic
strip graphics.

elaine

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subject:      t-shirts

i love everyone's t-shirt ideas-- the only thing i would change is to not
have any writing down the sleeves!

-rachael

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subject:      re: dream shirts

dream shirt stuff

all this shirt talk is hard for me cause i  absolutely  love  my current
list shirt.  i second a lot of what jen and amy just said.  as far as my
$0.02, i vote for long sleeved heavy henley, earthy tones, ig on sleeve,
some small original artwork on front, something expressing  gratitude and
admiration for a&e with the obsessed fan stuff on back.  i would hope it
wouldn't be too busy.

it would be cool i think to have an original artwork/logo-thing done that
could be used as a logo for this list, something that can be reused to
create continuity between shirts.  i'm not opposed to reusing the existing
one.  i'm kind of afraid to say this, but one of the things i like about
the idea of shirts at all is that they are capable of creating distinction
at a concert or outing between listees.  if at some point that are many
shirt designs out there, the recognition factor will suffer.  just a
thought....

betsy


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subject:      dream shirts

again, i shall contribute a few pennies...my official vote is for a long
sleeve indigo v-neck t-shirt with indigo girls written on the sleeve in
white 1200c script, either plain front or a small acknowledgement that it is
from the list, and the top however many reasons we know we are obsessed.
there ya go!!!  kel

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>         i vote for (this is my official vote) for a long-sleeve t-shirt
> (heavyweight of course) in a subdued, earthy color (forest green or maroon)
> with indigo girls on the left sleeve (with the 1200 curfews script).  the
> front should have something simple in small print either centered or on the
> left side (either obsessed fan or ig), and the back should have the top ten
> (or seven or whatever) and then either a thank you to amy and emily at the
> bottom or something like that...then of course an advertisement/proud
> acknowledgement that this is a listserv product...

i agree with this, genreally. the only strong views i have are that i
really like the sleeve idea, and i don't really like the henley idea
jazz

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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: dream shirts

i don't mean to burst any bubbles, but as someone who organized the last
t-shirt project i need to point out a few things:

1) producing an "indigo girls" t-shirt is a big no-no
"indigo girls" is a registered trademark. for the last shirt we took great
pains to produce an "ig list t-shirt". the only place "indigo girls"
appears is in the list address which is way different than running the name
down the sleeve or across the back or across the front.

2) using pictures off of albums is a big no-no
once again because of copyright issues, you just can't do that. just
because you have the equipment to scan an image that doesn't mean you can
legally use it. the images for the '96 shirt were custom designed. no real
animals were injured in the making of that t-shirt.

3) using lyrics is a big no-no
as shirts ideas are suggested, we need to make sure that lyrics aren't
used. at hampton beach, russell carter was pissed about the use of lyrics
on the list shirt even though we gave copyright credit. he requests that we
don't do that anymore. i know he was just being a lawyer, and i know amy
and emily generally don't care about stuff like that (they liked the
shirts), but i think we should honor that request and come up with other
things for the shirt to say. and make sure it's not a "top ten" shirt
either. that phrase is copyrighted too.

4) using amy's tatoo is just plain un-cool
if i saw something i designed, something that reflected my personal
beliefs, floating around on a t-shirt, i would be pissed.

5) it's too soon for another list shirt
the whole point of the other shirt projects was that it would become an
annual thing. the 96 shirt project isn't even completed yet because i still
have a few to mail out. and seeing as this list just supported the purchase
of 350 t-shirts, i'm not sure there will be much of an audience. we should
wait at least until spring of 97 before offering another.

deb

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from:         hugh barroll <hugh404@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: the sun'll come out./musicals thread

someone has already jumped on my first choice (tommy), although i see
(pun intended) emily as tommy and amy ray as a scorcher of an acid
queen/pinball wizard.  maybe michael stipe as uncle ernie/cousin kevin.

hugh barroll

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 13:09:29 -0600
reply-to:     "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
subject:      revised idea of shirt

okay i think this would be cool.
  i think that something written on a henley would look tacky, unless it
was something plain embroideried on the breast.
   long sleeve faded indigo t-shirt w/ indigo girls written down the
left arm in 1200 curfews font, amy's tattoo on the right breast with
indigo-girls@netspace.org under it, on the back top 10 thread and thanks
ya'll written in cursive under it on the back.

but what about emily?
amber

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i agree with deb on this shirt issue.  especially the idea of having amy's
tattoo on the shirt.  i mean how scary is that to have a bunch of people
you don't know have your tattoo on their t-shirt.  i would be pissed as
hell if someone put a copy of my tattoo on their shirt.  i mean that is
something that's personal to me, i don't want everyone to have it.  and the
top ten list of being an obsessed fan is fine on the list, but it kind of
scares me that we would want to walk around with that on our shirts...  i
wouldn't want amy and emily to see me in that.  i wouldn't want to be known
as scary psycho indigo chick.

anyway...  had to state an opposing viewpoint.

corinne

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subject:      re: sweet relief ii
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it is kinda a moody album...parts of it i find hilarious, like "dodge"
(brilliant!), others are more pensive, like "the gravity of the situation"
and "guilty by association" (i was really impressed by madonna's vocals,
for the record: i had no idea it was the boy toy until i checked the liner
notes).  i like so much of the stuff on the album, and yet i too have to
pick myself up with something less murky afterward.

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subject:      the t-shirt thing...

deb made some good points that everyone involved in this new list shirt
thing must consider.

i have a few more.  though i liked the obessessed fan thread and i think
jen hall's picks were hysterical (i think jen hall in general is hysterical-
sorry about the vikings jen!) and i found the orginal concept of a shirt with
witty obsession thread intriging, things are going a bit to far.

let us assume for a minute that we all get these shirts with abigal's line
about thanking ig and we wear them to a concert and amy and emily see them.
what would they think?

there is a fine line between appreciation (being a fan) and obsession (being
a crazed fan or even a stalker).  let us make sure we do not cross it.

flame away!
cynthia crecca
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 11:37:04 -0800
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subject:      re: ever curious....
x-to:         mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>
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no no no! betsy!  you beat me to the punch!  i am working on getting these
boots together to do this project! :)

well, there's the intro...
what do y'all think?  would it spoil it for the "real" map?  i was
thinking of doing a "best-of" of the boots with new material, complete
with lyrics liner-notes if possible..


on mon, 11 nov 1996, mediancat wrote:

> this is directed to all of the "boot" fanatics out there in list-land (by
> definition:  those who need to have all the boots).  have any of you taken
> the time to compile a map compilation tape that might mimic the released
> product, having chosen the best and most clear versions of these songs,
> arranged in a sensical order, and potentially including any introducing the
> girls may have done (like 1200 curfews)?  i know if i had all the boots,
> this is something i would try to do.  i think this would be way cool!! and
> by no means a substitute for the real thing, which we will all gobble up
> upon release.  it would be fun to see how it compares to the real thing.
> would be an awesome tape tree deal too
>
> just curious.....
>
> betsy (too bootless to try this at home...)
>
> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
> ..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
>       when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
>                        all for one and one for all
>                     then we sing the common call.....
>                                                              e. saliers
> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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subject:      re: shirts

i agree with deb on this shirt issue.  especially the idea of having amy's
tattoo on the shirt.  i mean how scary is that to have a bunch of people you
don't know have your tattoo on their t-shirt.  i would be pissed as hell if
someone put a copy of my tattoo on their shirt.  i mean that is something
that's personal to me, i don't want everyone to have it.  and the top ten
list of being an obsessed fan is fine on the list, but it kind of scares me
that we would want to walk around with that on our shirts...  i wouldn't
want amy and emily to see me in that.  i wouldn't want to be known as scary
psycho indigo chick.

     i way agree with you and deb. plus even the fact of having obsessed
     fan stuff on a shirt almost gets to the point of crossing the line of
     being a little bit scary!

     kira

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okay...about this shirt thing... everything but the picture, i have this
thing about pictures of people on shirts. it would (for me) place the
shirt in with all the exploited (mostly departed) singers faces that street
vendors around the country have pasted on t-shirts hanging from racks for
9.99. yikes, please, no ig on the front of the shirt. love the idea, hate
the picture thing. peace, kim (north van)

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on mon, 11 nov 1996, gwendigo wrote:

> what do y'all think?  would it spoil it for the "real" map?  i was
> thinking of doing a "best-of" of the boots with new material, complete
> with lyrics liner-notes if possible..

that's a good question. i know that i was a bit disappointed when swamp
ophelia first came out because there were few surprises on it - i had
heard all of the songs. it actually made the album feel old even on first
listen. i got over it, but there wasn't that same excitement as a new
album usually elicits for me. for that reason, i would pass on the tape.
i've heard some of the songs from other boots, but have been careful not
to listen too much because i look forward to hearing the songs freshly
when they're released.

kristina

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kristina cizas                           "trust only movement.
kcizas@cgrg.ohio-state.edu                life happens at the level of events
                                          not of words. trust movement."
       ~~~~~~~~~                                        -alfred adler
"don't be icky, and don't perpetuate
or participate in a system that
allows people to be icky
to each other." -ani difranco
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 15:18:40 -0500
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please put me on the indigo girls mailing list.
my address is:

au box 735
1100 east fifth street
anderson, in  46012

my e-mail address is:

indigo@kirk.anderson.edu.

thank you.

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subject:      re: new shirts and deb's post

        hi all...just wanted to thank deb for bringing us all back down to
the real world.  i still think a new t-shirt is a good idea but i suggest we
think about it some more and wait until after the new year...maybe we'll
come up with something different by then!!!

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subject:      free of hope lyrics

here are the lyrics to "free of hope" from sweet relief ii.  at first i
thought the cd was very murky and strange, but after i got the lyrics, i
realized that vic chesnutt is a very unique writer and i love the cd. if
anyone wants mor lyrics to the other songs, mail me.  --rob

free of hope
------------------

bricks are dirty, lakes are dead
the family dog is mad
baby brother science beakers are all broken
now the yard peacocks are all sad
board games are boring
may they rot on the shelf
big brother's at columbia university
quote unquote he's tanning beaver pelts
subtle as a billboard
and oh so refined
smoking through my chimmney
burning up this life of mind
free of hope
free of the past
thank you god of nothing
i'm free at last
a chip on the shoulder usually means
there's wood up above
but no many at this shiny oblong table
is very very fiberous
picnic demographics
i'm scorched and cornfed
leaning on a banister
i know it's just another 20 years of sweat
making up his milkdud mind
gnawing on a charleston chew
look inside is hothouse eyes
see his budding youth

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subject:      re: next ig musical

hair!!!!!


just saw this last night.  absolutely crazy musical.  and while we are on
the topic of musicals, does anyone else think that they are kinda weird?
when in life do people just burst into song and start doing perfectly
choreographed dance routines???  huh???  just once i would like to be
somewhere, say the grocery store, and have everyone there start singing
about produce or something and dancing around with shopping carts.  hee hee
hee.

peace, love, and supercalafragalisticexpealadocious,

        sundara

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 15:54:24 -0500
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how many folks got the boots i copied for you ??

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>
> 5) it's too soon for another list shirt
> the whole point of the other shirt projects was that it would become an
> annual thing. the 96 shirt project isn't even completed yet because i still
> have a few to mail out. and seeing as this list just supported the purchase
> of 350 t-shirts, i'm not sure there will be much of an audience. we should
> wait at least until spring of 97 before offering another.
and wha tabotu all the folks who didnt have money or time or are new and
didnt get one  of the other ones??

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subject:      re: dream shirts

please please please can we not have this shirt be "natural" colored.  all
three of my ig shirts are this color.  and this color makes me look kinda
jaundiced.  i really hate that, although i still wear them.  :)

and has anyone decided to take charge and start putting something together?
anyone?

peace, love, and supercalafragalisticexpealadocious,

        sundara

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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subject:      (a little nigc) attn: people i am trading with...

  hi. this is for everyone i am currently trading with. my e-mail address
has changed: was <margotll@aol.com> *now* <m.l.laidacker@mail.utexas.edu>. i
finally got my school account set up. whew. anyhoo, sorry to waste bandwidth.
   about ig's next musical, i just have one thing to say: grease!

peace and grease,
margot

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 11 nov 1996 - special issue

in a message dated 11/11/96 6:52:40 pm, you wrote:

<<    i vote for (this is my official vote) for a long-sleeve t-shirt
(heavyweight of course) in a subdued, earthy color (forest green or maroon)
with indigo girls on the left sleeve (with the 1200 curfews script).  the
front should have something simple in small print either centered or on the
left side (either obsessed fan or ig), and the back should have the top ten
(or seven or whatever) and then either a thank you to amy and emily at the
bottom or something like that...then of course an advertisement/proud
acknowledgement that this is a listserv product...
>>

i'm with jen on this one :)

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uhh......that would actually be kinda scary! i guess if you changed the
instrumentation to guitars and bongo drums and sung it like a rock opera
it would be ok.
   i think they should do either "godspell" w/michelle, dar and kelly
hogan(damn what a voice). "hair" would also be cool!

ben

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subject:      re: shirt

   ok. am i the only one, or does someone else out there think that the
cartoon of amy and emily would be funny to put on this shirt? maybe it
should go on the front in the corner (kind of small). hmm...

peace,
margot

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is "problem child" going to be on the new album?
ben

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on mon, 11 nov 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> is "problem child" going to be on the new album?
> ben
>

you bet i am!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
-mandy

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subject:      returned message -- re: those lovely november people (fwd)

hi y'all!
        this message that i sent a few days ago just got bounced back to
me. if you've already received it, my apologies for posting twice.
        btw, emily's b-day is jul. 22. you'll understand the relevance if
you read further.
                                                tuesday's child

on tue, 5 nov 1996, julie jansen wrote:

> well i recently discovered a whole different kind of astrology and since
> emily is a native american (right?), i thought i might share it with you:
> (at least this way i can make it a ig topic hoho)

        sorry to blow your igc, but i don't think either of the girls are
native american. in fact i vaguely recall amy saying that they're not in
an interview. not that it really matters. the subject matter is still
very cool. my best friend joyce is part lakota sioux, and is studying to
be a shaman. i think she'll get a kick out of this.

> 21st mar-19th apr: falcon
> falcon people rise to great heights, and like to spread their wings. their
> prey is a new idea/experience/place to visit/past-time. they are fearless
> in going after what they want. good starters but not stayers.

        the falcon would be amy's sign.  she's born april 12, 1964. this
sure does sound like her from what we know of her! fearless, rising to
great heights, hunting down new experiences/ideas etc...

> 20th apr-20th may: beaver
> always busying themselves with making alterations and home improvements,
> their overall purpose is security and contentment. adaptable and creative,
> they are patient and perservering.

        this is me. i'm born april 20th, 1967. somehow i always end up on a
cusp no matter what. this is also joyce's girlfriend, dar. her birthday is
may 17, 1969. joyce says that her dar and i are lot alike. maybe this
explains it. ;) much to joyce's consternation, dar is busting out in a
rash of nesting instincts. i'm extremely amused by the whole thing.

> 21st may-20th jun: deer
> sensitive, alert and fast-moving, they are intuitive towards others'
> feelings. their thoughts race very quickly, they appreciate beauty and
> frequently leap from one idea to another.

        this is joyce, the shaman. she's june 12, 1963. she is absolutely
all of the above.

> 21st jun-21st jul: woodpecker
> reluctant to let their offspring go, they make a comfortable nest for
> themselves and require a comfortable home and close relationships. they
> need a channel for their energies and devotion.
>
> 22nd jul-21st aug: salmon
> blessed with longevity and graceful aging, they are both optimistic and
> vain. often sought out by others for their enjoyment, salmon people may
> appear charming or fickle on the exterior but are prickly or serious on
> the inside - or the reverse. they must learn to master their emotions.

        i can't remember if emily is july 21 or 22, 1963. so she's either
a woodpecker or a salmon. both of which fit depending on how you
interpret it. re: woodpecker, most of em's songs are about close
relationships and their importance to her. re: salmon, "i look a lot like
narcissus...", serious on the inside. you get the idea.

> i apologise for this longish post, especially since it may not hold
> interest for everyone. but if you'd like to take part in a survey, or get
> a few more detailed pars from the book, let me know won't you?

        i'd be happy to participate in your survey. and i've got a
question for you. do you tinker with analysis of zodiacal interactions?
could you tell me anything about my two friends and i based just on the
birthdays i listed?

                                                busy little beaver,
                                                tuesday's child


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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 16:07:30 -0600
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: the t-shirt thing...

i know this thread is getting old, but i do have a couple more notes to add.

1) i'm behind everyone who feels a new shirt is not yet needed. deb and rob
worked very hard on the beautiful shirts we have now, and while it's fine to
plan a new one, i'm still enjoying our current model thank you very much.

2) long sleeve shirts do sound like they'd be comfy and nice looking, but if
these are shirts we plan on wearing to concerts, we might want to rethink
that one. now i've never been to an ig concert, but i'd guess that they tend
to be rather hot, cramped, and sweaty affairs (plus the
obvious--incredible!) so, t-shirts are definitely more practical
concert-going attire.

3) did anyone have any feedback on my "welcome back" idea? cynthia, i
couldn't quite tell whether you were in favor of it or opposed.

4) the "top ten" list idea just won't fly. i personally wouldn't want to
wear anything that would offend amy and emily like that might, and then
there's the fact that it would be kind of like a big inside joke, and since
we're all spread out, nobody would understand it.

the beauty of the last list shirts is that they express ig's message of love
through lyrics. it sucks that we can no longer use lyrics, but i suppose
we'll have to be creative.  i'm in favor of a non-humerous approach, but
rather one that displays the beauty of ig music.


:) abigail
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 17:05:09 -0500
reply-to:     tuesday's child <dc3545@cnsvax.albany.edu>
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subject:      returned message -- re: a request nigc -- long! (fwd)

hi again!
        here's another one that got bounced, it's really important (see
the capital letters? that proves it. ;d ) please read it. thanks!
                                                        tuesday's child

on tue, 5 nov 1996, katy wischow wrote:

> my request - okay, y'all, having run up against my first striking instance of
> institutionalized homophobia, i need help.  i need to find some really good
> gay/lesbian/bi literature, preferably short, that would be good suggestions
> for inclusion in a high school lit class.  intelligent students, mostly
> (myself excepted, of course, but i'm indigo :) but high school.  the approval
> issue is awful, and i am now incredibly angry at the powers that be in my
> school...but any suggestions y'all can give would be very very appreciated!
> and if anybody has any experience or ideas about anything i can do to make my
> school more open...it certainly needs it :)

hi all!
        i thought i would share this with all of you since katy isn't the
only one on the list with this problem. i found this information in our
local (albany, ny) les/bi/gay newsletter, "community". sorry it's so
long, but it's worth it. please read it. thanks.

                                                        tuesday's child

reprinted without permission (even though i'm on the staff).

                --------------------------------

what is glstn?
by john meyers

        the gay, lesbian, and straight teachers network (glstn) is the
largest organization of parents, educators, students and other concerned
citizens working to end homophobia in k-12 schools and to ensure that all
students are valued and respected, regardless of sexual orientation.
        to fulfill its mission and to raise awareness of these issues,
glstn produces audio, visual and text-based educational materials,
provides training, produces community programming and conferences, and
organizes a growing network of over 40 regional chapters.
        membership in glstn is open to anyone - regardless of their
occupation or sexual orientation - who is committed to seeing that the
current generation is the last to suffer from homophopia. more than 70%
of our budget is funded by individual donations. we need your support to
continue to make resources available such as the ones you'll find
available online. glstn is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation and all
donations are fully tax-deductible to the extent allowed by law.


what is glstn's mission?
        glstn's goal is to create an environment at k-12 schools, in
which every member of the school community is valued and respected,
regardless of sexual orientation.
        we believe that such an atmosphere engenders a positive sense of
self, which is the basis of educational achievement and personal growth.
since homophobia and heterosexism undermine a healthy school climate, we
work to educate teachers, students and the public at large about the
damaging effects these forces have on youth and adults alike. we
recognize that forces such s racism and sexism have similarly adverse
impacts on communities, and we support schools in seeking to redress all
such inequities. glstn seeks to develop school climates where difference
is valued for the positive contribution it makes in creating a more
vibrant and diverse community.

exactly what does glstn do?
        to fulfill our mission, glstn is committed to the following
activities:
1)addressing homophobia and heterosexism in schools by facilitating
communication among educators of all sexual orientations.
2)promoting dialogue with and among schools on the needs of gay, lesbian
and bisexual youth and their families.
3)developing and distributing trainings, curricula and other materials in
printed form and online which provide schools with strategies to
guarantee equality for their students, to create a safe environment, to
provide support and training for their faculty, and to value diversity
with regard to sexual identity.
4)helping schools understand how communities which value diversity are
healthier ones for all students, regardless of sexual orientation and
that students are then freer to realize their human potential in such an
environment .
5)educating the general public on the necessity for addressing sexual
identity in the educational system as a means of creating better schools.
6)creating support for gay, lesbian and bisexual students and teachers
currently in schools.
7)advocating change in the society at large with regard to homophobia and
heterosexism, working to influence local, state and national leaders.
        glstn's specific activities include regional conferences focused
on creating change in schools, on-site workshops for individual schools
and conferences, curriculum and training module development, quarterly
newsletters and advocacy on behalf of youth and families.

what is glstn's history?
        glstn was founded in the boston area in 1990 and was instrumental
on the work which led to massachusetts becoming the first state in the
nation to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in its
public schools. it was honored for this work by massachusetts governor
william weld in 1993. in response to increasing national interest in
glstn's work, the group incorporated in 1994, hired staff and began to
develop the first national network of local chapters working to end
homophobia in our schools. since that time, more than forty local
chapters have been founded across the united states. glstn's work has
expanded to include helping to establish october as national lesbian,
gay, and bisexual month, assisting local groups to introduce legislation
to protect the rights of gay students in states including california and
connecticut, and sponsoring programming on the local level in more than
20 states.
        glstn has been instrumental in changing schools. glstn developed
the "gay-straight alliance" student support program, and helped establish
such groups in schools in more than two dozen states. glstn was
instrumental in the fight that made massachusetts the first state to ban
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against public school
students in december, 1993. in 1994, glstn was chosen to develop the
faculty training component of the massachusetts department of education's
"safe schools for gay and lesbian youth" program, the first state-wide
effort to provide comprehensive training to school staffs on the needs of
gay and lesbian youth. glstn helped establish gay and lesbian history
month, persuading massachusetts governor william weld and connecticut
governor lowell weicker to issue proclamations on behalf of this
inaugural event in october, 1994 and hosting the nation's largest
conference on the subject. in local chapters across the nation, glstn
members, created more inclusive curriculum, delivered hundreds of
trainings for school staffs, and carried out a myriad of activities to
make our schools better places for all to work and learn.

glstn headquarters
122 west 26th st., suite 1100
new york, ny 10001 usa
tel:(212) 727-0135
email: glstn@glstn.org
web: http://www.glstn.org/respect/

                        -------------------------

        "when your vision stays clear in the face of your fear
         then you see turning off a lightswitch is their only
         power when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
         all for on and one for all then we sing the common call...
         ...if the world is night shine my life like a light."
                                                -e. saliers

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 14:24:49 -0800
reply-to:     sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
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from:         sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
subject:      re: next ig musical
in-reply-to:  <v01530502aead40ed0699@[192.220.223.76]>

hi there!
        my vote for the next ig musical would be starlight express. the
power of amy's voice combined with the powerful lyrics would be incredible!
emily would fit right in too....or how about chess? it has some awesome
music. i guess there are a lot of people who aren't familiar with it, but
emily would sound really good doing "someone else's story".

                                        sherri

ps- i agree with sundara's take on musicals...i think it would be neat to
see my life spontaneously burst into music! i'd hate to think what the
music would be,
and god i hope i wouldn't have to dance in the lead....but i'd definitely
be willing to sing   =)


may those who love us, love us
and those that don't love us,
may god turn their hearts;
and if he doesn't turn their hearts
may he turn their ankles
so we'll know them
by their limping.

                        -an old gaelic blessing

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 17:42:01 est
reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      i got enough friggin tshirts

--- deb reiser wrote:
5) it's too soon for another list shirt
the whole point of the other shirt projects was that it would become an
annual thing. the 96 shirt project isn't even completed yet because i still
have a few to mail out. and seeing as this list just supported the purchase
of 350 t-shirts, i'm not sure there will be much of an audience. we should
wait at least until spring of 97 before offering another.
--- end of quoted material ---
deb offered an array of excellent reasons why we should not be looking at
another shirt right now. i'd like to add one more: i'm broke!!! i wanna save my
pennies for the ten or fifteen ig shows i will probably want to see in late
1997.

here's to us po folks,
susanna

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 17:27:43 -0600
reply-to:     little charlie <mcwhorte@mc.edu>
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from:         little charlie <mcwhorte@mc.edu>
subject:      deb and shirts

awwwwwwww...deb, can we please make the t-shirts, please can we
canwecanwe please huh huh?

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reply-to:     "stacey l. vamvas" <svamvas@vt.edu>
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subject:      shirts

hey ya'll,

i just wanted to know, if we aren't going to make a new shirt, is there a
way to get one of the 96 shirts that everyone keeps talking about?

stacey

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 18:39:04 -0500
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      cut it out lyrics

hey all,

maybe i'm wrong, but in cut it out i always hear amy say

cut it out pretender

seems like it would make sense, since it a kind of goes
with the rest of the lyrics and the theme of the song.
does anyone else hear pretender or is it just me and
a few friends?

take care and peace!

-deb

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reply-to:     tricia juettemeyer <tjuett@artic.edu>
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from:         tricia juettemeyer <tjuett@artic.edu>
subject:      re: dream shirts

>to put in my $.02, i like the long sleeves idea.  i like the top 10 list.
>i hate the idea of the "fun" nis picture on the front. (sorry, jen :)  am i
>the only one who doesn't like this picture?  i can stand having it on the
>back of the cd, but i don't think i'd walk around w/ it on my shirt.  amy
>just looks so...strange...for lack of a better word.  maybe something else
>(i'm not sure what) would look better on the front.  and i think putting
>the tattoo on the sleeve is going a little overboard...it would be too
>busy...but i like the overall idea... :)

i'd have to agree with this--i think the picure on the front would make the
shirt less all-around wearable--what about if it was a long sleeve shirt
with indigo girls down one sleeve and with a small logo on the front
alluding to what was on the back--like where the alligator is on all those
brand shirts--it could say something like--ig top ten or twelve or
whatever--just my $.o2--tricia

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 18:48:46 -0500
reply-to:     "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
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from:         "mary e. kushman" <mekindigo@ecu.campus.mci.net>
subject:      a temporary goodbye

i hate to tell this to y'all, but i am going to have to temporarily sign
off the list.  my life is extremely hectic right now and very
stressful...it's crunch time at school and finals are coming up in a few
weeks.  those of you i am involved in trades with or am taping bumbershoot
for you will get your tapes, i promise.  any questions, e-mail me.

anyhow, i'll see y'all again once my finals and the gre are over!  :)

bye for now,
mary


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http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/5482/
(it's under very much construction, but come anyway
and do sign my guestbook)

bs physics, east carolina university
class of 1998

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reply-to:     tom jobes <tomcat@netcom.com>
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from:         tom jobes <tomcat@netcom.com>
subject:      amy's tattoo

does anybody have a picture of amy's tattoo?  i didn't notice it on the
so tour, and i just read a description of it in the new faq.  or is that
too much an invasion of her privacy.

tom

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       \ _/__ now far ahead the road has gone/and i must follow if i can
        \\  / pursuing it with weary feet/until it joins some larger way
          \/  where many paths and errands meet/and whither then? i cannot say
                   -- jrr tolkien

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 19:15:39 -0500
reply-to:     audrey stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
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from:         audrey stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
subject:      howbout a poster instead?

i hereby withdraw the tattoo suggestion.

(can you hear me in the back? ;)

i'm amazed at how complex this shirt thing has already become.  so for
copyright purposes we shouldn't be writing "indigo girls" on the shirt,
and some people aren't too keen about advertising an obsession on their
back.  i don't mind waiting a while for a shirt that's bound to be very
cool, but what about a poster in the meantime?  no, not a
professionally-printed, mailed-out thing.  a simple black-and-white
eight-and-a-half by eleven page with the you know you're obsessed list and
some cool drawings or graphics (tiff, is your friend into this?) that we
can all hang up, laminate or whatever.  i should be able to turn something
like this into a web page pretty easily, and everyone could print their
own copy (or copies) from netscape.  (could even make it a temporary page
to give "limited edition" status.)

the list is getting swamped with shirt posts, so send me your votes on
this by email and i'll report back in a day or so.  also, i've lost most
of the obsessions, so if anyone wants to remail me those, i can compile
and post those too.

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 19:20:57 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      anyone want to see vic chestnutt in nyc free?

long story, but i am going down to see vic @ st. anne's church in brooklyn
ny and i have an extra (press) ticket. if you want to either meet up or
something, let me know, i need to go to an engagement in the village
after the concert and could use any good information as to a cheap place to
stay near the village, like between 20 and 45th street.  i will also be at
the billy bragg show at the orpheum in boston (which was supposed to be a
birthday gift, but the party after the vic show is, ummmm, a dream come
true!) so if you want a free ticket (i don't know too many people who will
drive 10+ hours to see a relatively unknown folk singer, especially driving
from northern maine)

email me, and if any one has a couch in the village they want to let me
crash at on friday, really email me, i have references who will promise that
i am not the serial killer type 8^)

mike r.

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subject:      2nd jcs video

does anyone remember the timeframe for the release of the second video of
the jcs performance? amy said in one of her emails about the future
release of another jcs video - backstage, rehersals, interviews, but i
don't remember when she said it would be. i was thinking it was to be in
the fall/winter of '96 - anyone remember?

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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reply-to:     kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
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from:         kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
subject:      re: howbout a poster instead?
x-to:         audrey stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>

a simple black-and-white eight-and-a-half by eleven page with the you know you're
obsessed list and some cool drawings or graphics (tiff, is your friend into this?)
that we can all hang up, laminate or whatever.  i should be able to turn something
like this into a web page pretty easily, and everyone could print their own copy (or
copies) from netscape.  (could even make it a temporary pageto give "limited edition"
status.)
>

this is a great idea, audrey!  i second the idea.

my $.02,
kelly f. =)

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reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: dream shirts
x-to:         andi <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01540b06aeacc8575145@[130.91.233.114]>

okay, i have to add my $.02 since everyone else is, and so i can give
y'all an opportunity to see my new .sig.  i hope it's not too big...i
feel kind of guilty, because it's so big, but that was the only size i
think i could draw the picture successfully.

anyway, about the shirts--i love the idea of the negative strip with the
pictures &/or drawings in it accompanying the top 10 list.  i think it'd
be cool to have a little something on the front pocket area, like many
shirts do--maybe the words indigo girls written in the doodly writing
from 1200c and honor, or our listserv address--something small just to
indicate that the front goes with the back.  also i like the idea of
having "indigo girls" written down the sleeves, and i think it'd be the
utmost in cool to have amy's tattoo on all our left arms.  yeah, it's not
the norm for shirt design, but it's amy's tattoo, y'all...think about it!

okay, ding! thank you for playing (or rather, letting me play!)
tlc

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 18:58:26 -0600
reply-to:     "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>
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from:         "tony a.t. mendina" <mendina@utdallas.edu>
subject:      boots from tx this aug.

on or around the end of aug. this year, the ig played three shows in
texas: austin, san antonio, dallas. now i've got a friend and his
fiance who are hammering me all day for boots; austin was their
first show and they are -almost- obsessed fans.

did anyone get a full or partial recording of any of these shows?
they want one of these becasue they saw them, so the same material
elsewhere won't do.

please let me know if you can help!

tony

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mendina@utdallas.edu              what's past is to put a stop
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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 19:13:53 -0500
reply-to:     mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
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from:         mr rodney s wicker <rucr57a@prodigy.com>
subject:      shirt design

the design i liked the best was the one sara lee
was wearing in the watershed video.

she was on the bus in the video saying "when
i first met the indigo girls, they had no sense of style."

while she was saying that, she was wearing a white
sweatshirt with the name indigo girls on the front
with the i in the front and the s at the end larger
than the other letters.  that was cool!!!

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 17:02:00 -0800
reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      contest to find me some neighbors....
in-reply-to:  <328568d8.455e@efn.org>

hi, again, y'all:

i've been hanging around this list awhile (as you've probably noticed,
cuz i'm not exactly a lurker), and one of the things i've noticed is
that many of you guys know each other and live near each other and hang
out and are good friends and stuff...i'm kind of in a remote area, and
just wondered if by chance there are any listers living near me.  i live
in arcata, ca, near eureka.  it's a 6 hour drive north of san francisco,
on the coast, about an hour south of the oregon border.  so far,
catherine in eugene (don't know you but hi) is my closest known
neighbor--if anybody can beat that (good chance for y'all to -get out the
map- !!!) you will win a happy indigo day from me.

reply privately, of course, i'll be glad to hear from you....
the lone coyote

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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from:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      taping

does anyone know/have a list of the ig boot tapes that are available for
trading (similar to the grateful dead list)?  i'm curious.  i'm also just
looking for people to trade with.  if interested please let me know.

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subject:      tapind cont

i would be interested in putting together a list of all the ig shows
available for trade.  something to add to the faq.  i'm interested in
feedback on this.  also, if this seems like a good idea, start emailing
me your list of tapes and i'll put it together.

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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: international buy nothing day (nigc)
x-to:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@portalinc.com>
in-reply-to:  <9611071509.aa15920@snap.portalinc.com>

(this is me feigning disdain, replying in a jovial manner that only
_sounds_ irritated and uninformed......)

i have to say that this buy nothing day couldn't have been planned for a
worse day.  i think the message is wonderful and meaningful and important
and all that, but i'm sorry, the day after thanksgiving is the biggest
shopping day of the year, and dammit, i'm going to mall of america! (yes,
i'll be in minneapolis for thanksgiving.  any local listers wanna say hi?)

sorry, i didn't mean it (madly ducking under the fiery arrows)
the lone coyote

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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subject:      susan, deb, and everyone else....

hey ya'll!

i'm poor, i gotta list shirt that is 3 weeks old, and if everyone wants
one that didn't get one, why don't we politely ask deb if another
running of them is possible?

this by no means is a signal to badger and berate deb, who is trying to
accomplish school in her spare time, to do another running, but maybe
if there is enough interest, it is a possibility....

either that, or wait til early spring, which is when the concept of the
last one was born.....besides, it's winter, for god's sake.  who the
hell is gonna wear t-shirts in cold temps and blinding snow...(and yes,
it does get cold south of the mason/dixon line in winter, so don't send
me mini-flame mail yelling "hey, i live in atlanta and i wear t-shirts all
the time!"  cuz i will tell you to go to rainy day and look for an ig
t-shirt there then!  ;)  )

just a suggestion!

peace and smiles-

karrie

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from:         molly jane b murphy <julj03a@prodigy.com>
subject:      tape list of everything

the grateful dead have a book that is updated annually called
deadbase.  basically it is a compilation of all the shows available
on tape (pretty much everything they played) with tons of ridiculous
cross references like how many times bob weir would say "quasar"
instead of "guitar" on greatest story ever told, and the actual
transcript of every show complete with all the dialouge in between
songs.  it also contains some not so ridiculous cross references like
how many times a certain song was played and what dates it was played
on.  it includes a survey of any participating deadheads asking
questions from which band member is your favorite to what party you
vote for.  it's a pretty cool book to have if you like the dead and
it's something that takes a lot of effort but i think if we had the
right amount of people who would be willing to work on this we could
do something similar that would be a fun thing to have with lots of
fun statistics.  maybe include the trivia questions and statistics.
whatever.  if anyone is interested e-mail me and we'll see if it's
possible.

gwen

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 19:21:00 -0800
reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      interpreting ghost
in-reply-to:  <199611101603.iaa14575@prcn.org>

i'm sorry to be posting so much, i just missed y'all like crazy!  all
this talk about everyone's interpretations of ghost has been tugging on
my heartstrings because i've been trying to get over someone i fell in
love with who is already in a committed, live-in relationship with
someone else, and also 300 miles away...i keep telling myself that i'm
over her, but it's just denial "at this point you rush right through me
and i start to drown..."  when we lived together at a resident camp this
summer, i knew she was attached, but i couldn't help it, and i could have
sworn she was flirting back "signals crossed and love gets lost..."  and
i knew i could never be with her, but i wanted to tell her, but i
couldn't bring myself to say straight out what i was feeling "unknowing
captor, you'll never know how much you pierced my spirit, and i can't
touch you..."

(sigh...)

the girls just know how to say it all...thanks emily, and thanks to
whoever's still listening...

i'm forever under lock and key...
the lone coyote


oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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subject:      dream shirts
x-to:         debbie@mei.com, deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>

okay, okay, i guess i (or we, whatever) got too excited without looking
at something with a realistic perspective. sorry. i would be really
pissed if people had my tattoo on their shirts and it would be weird to
publicize our obsessed fan status (jk). i just wish the fan club would
be more effecient, like get a web page or something. gotta work on my
research paper. oh yeah, i still like my list shirt, too.
amber

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subject:      re: interpreting ghost
x-to:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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i'm with marianne all the way on this one!!  for me ghost is the most
touching and powerful song in my entire cd collection.  there is a very
long story to go along with it, which i wouln't go into, but i can tell
you that every syllable of ghost rings true in my ears.  "my bitter pill
to swallow is the silence that i keep" and "unknowing captor, you'll
never know how much you pierce my spirit, but i can't touch you"....ooohh
muh gosh....can i just say that those lines almost bring tears to my
eyes, no matter how may times i hear the song.  it is also my favorite
song to harmonize with.  i was sitting in my room with a friend today
when it came on, and managed to squeak out "you sing with em...." right
before "cry to be freeeeeeeee"(we actually sounded pretty
good!!!)...alright, sorry this is so long but it's my first post in about
2 months of being on the list...i felt as if i had to just get it all
out.....  thanks for listening!!

~jess

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subject:      wisdom from entertainment weekly

hey kind friends...
i found this on aol's entertainment weekly page (message board area).  it's
the heading for the folk music area, and i thought it was an interesting
statement:

"music that is more important than the people who perform it and lasts
because it speaks to human issues."

how do you all thik amy and emily and their music fit into this?
stephen

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subject:      some ghosts thoughts
x-to:         abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu

all this talk about ghost has led me to think i'd like to share my
experience.when the c.d.first came out i spent about 8-9 months a year on the
road working and i had a spring cycle around the southern u.s. and
california.i listened to this song over and over,as i was homesick and missed
my girlfriend terribly.and something on that trip told me we were soon to
part(a premonition that ended up being true).i sang and cried and sang and
cried all the way up the coast from l.a.to my home in seattle with a heavy
heart.
   i see this song as a love letter to someone that has been lost.i never had
experienced leaving someone i loved behind before this song came into my
life.i talked to her,as i still do,almost everyday in my head..searching for
a way that would have led us back together..and made our love for each other
healthier for us both.a real haunting feeling knowing the person was somehow
right and the time wasn't.
this song was truly a postcard to me from emiliy,and it helped me express
the pain i felt then.
                                                          laurabell

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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      the wood song and what it means

many folks have asked what this song means nad you knwo i was listenign to
it today and it dawned on me what it means i will now translate it for
you<g<
mind you its not all thought through but you will get the jist


the thin horizen of a plan is almost clear my friends and i have had a
hard time brusing our brains hard up agaisnt chainge of all the old dogs
and the magician
okay this i part i dotn really know <g> but id guess tryng to find a plan
a way throgh a ever changing life

now i see were in the boat in 2 by 2s only the heart that we have for a
tool we could use and the very close quarters are hard to get used to love
wieghs down the hull with its wieght but the wood is tired and the wood is
old and well make it fine if the weather holds and if the weather holds
then well have missed the point the point thats where i need to go

this is where it starts to make sense in the boat 2by2 that life we hook
up with another  only the heart that we have for a tool we could use
menaing we hook up someone because of the heart the boat is the analogy of
the boat upon lifes troubled waters and love weighs down the hull with its
weight because with love comes commitment nad with that responsibilty the
wood isnt really wood its our body and souls we are tired havign been
though alot in our lives nad we will make it if the weathe holds we think
not realizing that this storm will actually put us where we need to be


noway construction of this tricky plan was built by other then a greater
hand with a love that passes all our understanding watching closely over
the journey yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide takes more
then all the courage i can muster up inside but we get to have some
answers when we reach the other side the prize is always worht the rocky
ride then the chorus agian which ive explained already
this is where  it really clicked in for me
this passage is about god built by other then a greater hand  with a love
that passes  all our udnerstanding no way construction i kinda dont
understand nless it relates to the second part of this which is about
death crossing the great divide which is death takes more then all the
curage i can muster up iinside which is folks fear of death  we get some
answers on the other side ie when we pass over  least we think we do the
prize is always worth the rocky ride this could mean the peace that comes
with death
and as i said the wood isnt wood its yoru body or soul

sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look skip to the final chapter of the
book and maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took to get us
where we are this far but the question drowns in its futility and even ive
got to laugh at me cause no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
just holding on for the ride then the chorus agian

it all comes together here<g> this clinched it for me sneak a closer look
skip to the final chapter of the book euphisms  for using tarot cards
oujia boards anythign to see the future psychis to try to bypas some bad
stuff that might be coming  the question drowns in its futility cause no
one gets to mis the storm of what will be is simple she laughs at herself
bcause you cannot escape yoru destiny just holding on for the ride menaing
ill take it as i come and hang on and ride it through


wel thats my interpitation i hope you liek it any questions<g>
hugs nathony van pyre

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date:         mon, 11 nov 1996 22:26:01 -0800
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subject:      new shirts

love all the ideas that have been tossed out, especially the henley
idea. also, like we did with the first shirt, let's make sure we have
xxl available.

steve

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does anyone have any info on the new album and/or tour plans? lemme know
if ya do!  thanks!

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subject:      re: next ig musical

karen wrote:

>oh, yeah, i can just hear emily warbling, "somewhere over the
>rainbow".

i dunno...has anyone else out there heard tori amos's amazing cover? i
don't think even my beloved emily could top it. i'd have to vote for
tori as dorothy, and emily as the scarecrow? cowardly lion?

steve

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what abotu jewels version of somehwere over the rainbow


on mon, 11 nov 1996, steve moore wrote:

> karen wrote:
>
> >oh, yeah, i can just hear emily warbling, "somewhere over the
> >rainbow".
>
> i dunno...has anyone else out there heard tori amos's amazing cover? i
> don't think even my beloved emily could top it. i'd have to vote for
> tori as dorothy, and emily as the scarecrow? cowardly lion?
>
> steve
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subject:      re: next ig musical

i don't know about their next musical, but i think their next show should be,
"guess who's coming to dinner."  amy could do sidney poitey'(sp) and emily
could be her fiance'.

now this would be great, very topical, w/ a lot of areas to work on.  just
think about a couple flying in from hawii, to seek their parents blessing
in getting married in light of doma.  this has to be done!

trant

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subject:      ;d re: dream shirts

hey y'all:)
i suggest a low cut, sequined, ball gown with the list adress tastefully
woven into the fabric across the seat... none could accuse us of
being...um... over the top + dangerously obsessive then. of course, the guys
might have trouble finding pumps to match...
hmmmm... okay... forget that idea... back to the drawing board...
peace... kim ( non-too goddess-like as of late...:) )
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"halt!!! we are the fashion police!!!
put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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subject:      musicals thread

i wanna see them doing "calamity jane".  yeah, i'm a big doris day fan, i admit
it. :)  and "the sound of music".  yeah.

just my 2 bawbees worth. :)

"...here's the man the sherriff watches
on his gun there's more'n 27 notches
on the draw there's no one faster
and you're flirting with disaster
when bill hickock's reputation you malign
and i'm glad to say he's a very good friend of a friend of mine..."

(ooh, how many times have i watched that film that i can quote song lyrics??
sad, gail, very sad :)

toodles :)

gail

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subject:      maggie??

sorry for sending this post to the entire list, but i'm looking for maggie
from f& m. i saw you opened for michelle malone on friday nite, and i was
just wondering how it went :)

thanx!
cathy

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 09:49:01 est
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> i suggest a low cut, sequined, ball gown with the list adress tastefully
> woven into the fabric across the seat... none could accuse us of
> being...um... over the top + dangerously obsessive then. of course, the guys
> might have trouble finding pumps to match...

heck i'd wear it, but i'd want the dress to be cut in the shape of
amy's tattoo: the pinky and ring finger form a arm hole, as to the
middle and fore fingers.  the thumb becomes a sash.  i also volunteer
to create stockings with the obssesion list on them.  perhaps a tiara
with "indigo-girls@netspace.org" spelled out in cubic zirconium would
do nicely?  or diamonds?  if there is a market for the victoria secret
million dollar diamond bra, there is hope!!!

                quitting astronomy to become a fashion designer,

                                chris

scene from a christmas morning:

* wife holds up the victoria secret diamond bra *

wife:  oh honey, its... you shouldn't have... but i think it needs to go
        back.  i want to return it for a house.

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 10:07:29 -0500
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subject:      re: next musical

cats!!
yyyessss! grrreat idea!
of course grease would have its good points too 8-=85. (grinning =
wolfishly since i read my native american horoscope.

mutley

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vices at some other joint.
                            r.t.tin

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how do i do this? i'm new to this list so i guess i better introdouce myself.
i'm a 26-year-old heterosexual male from the philippines.  i first heard ig a
couple of years back when they were covered by a band we were playing with.
the next time i heard an ig song was when the singer from my band started
singing 'ghost' during one of our practice sessions.  obviously, i was hooked
enough to get into the mailing list.. there.

whew..

jao / dandelion wine

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on nov 8, fanny wrote:

>i have often wondered if this song is about a real ghost, e.g. someone
>who died, or if it's just a metaphor for a lost love.... anyone
>have any thoughts about that - share it, please!

absolutely without a doubt...i believe the lines you quoted from ghost are
a metaphor for a lost love.  to me, at least, it sounds like the narrator
still has contact with the lost love, but daydreams of days passed.  the
narrator has vivid memories of the love lost, fond memories, but knows that
the relationship exists only in the past and no place else.  for very
important reasons, the relationship is over, and will remain that way.
like when people change, and you still love them, but you're not in love
with the person they are now, but may be in love with the person they were
then....in love with their ghost.

ok, i'll shut up now.......

joni  :>}

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 09:25:02 -0600
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subject:      re: susan, deb, and everyone else....

karrie wrote:
>i'm poor, i gotta list shirt that is 3 weeks old, and if everyone wants
>one that didn't get one, why don't we politely ask deb if another
>running of them is possible?

i'm sorry, but another run of the '96 shirts just isn't possible. rob and i
started this project in april; at some point there needs to be a cut off
and we are at that point. new people sign on to the list everyday but i
don't think we should be sending a t-shirt order form along with the
welcome letter and faq. it would be cool if we could, but keeping list
t-shirts in stock requires up-front money. my dog needs dog food, so i
can't afford to finance such a project. besides, these shirt projects
should be viewed as a limited edition type thing.  i think rob and i went
out of our way to accommodate as many folks as possible. with each run we
ordered extra shirts in anticipation of newbies and procrastinators. but
when all is said and done, if you missed out, you missed out and you'll
just have to wait for the next project.

i know rob would like to be involved in a project like this again. i would
be more than happy to come up with another design. but let's wait until
spring and see how the rest of the list feels.

deb

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subject:      re: next i g musical

hmmm
how about camelot?
can't make my mind up on the casting tho'
king arthur...e/me
guinevere...e
lancelot... seems like a for sure
morgan le fay(morgaine)...m.m.
merlin...m.l.
whassisname...arthurs son who does him in...m. stipe
'course in my mind i keep getting the musical version mixed up with th
whites' the once and future king and marion z. bradleys'  the mists of
avalon. could be a whole new musical.

still thinking
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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>might have trouble finding pumps to match...
pumps....i thought those were what you wore if you had "water on the
knee"...oooh bad
sorry
the mutt

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subject:      re[2]: favorite phrases in ig songs

joni wrote:
absolutely without a doubt...i believe the lines you quoted from ghost are
a metaphor for a lost love.  to me, at least, it sounds like the narrator
still has contact with the lost love, but daydreams of days passed.  the
narrator has vivid memories of the love lost, fond memories, but knows that
the relationship exists only in the past and no place else.  for very
important reasons, the relationship is over, and will remain that way.
like when people change, and you still love them, but you're not in love
with the person they are now, but may be in love with the person they were
then....in love with their ghost.

     well i feel the need to add my $.02 here. i know i won't articulate
     what i feel as well as i actually feel it but i'll do my best. this
     song also is very close to things that were real to me so to put it
     into words is difficult. my interpretation is about a love that needed
     to be kept inside and that the time was just not right. i feel that
     the line "in love with your ghost" means that that is the only thing
     you can be in love with. meaning, the situation has it that you can't
     express or show how you feel towards that person and that person may
     not even know how you truly feel. "unknowing captor, you never know
     how much you, pierce my spirit, but i can't touch you". wow, powerful
     stuff batman! am & em continually write songs that are so very
     powerful to me. i'm thankful for many of their words, for they have
     keep me going thru my lifes little struggles. ok, enough from
     me...back to lurkdom now :)
     kira

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subject:      re: next i g musical

i think sound of music would be cool.  i could see emily as maria,
amy as capt. von trapp.  heck, with the way special effects are done
these days, they could play all of the characters! ;)

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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subject:      re: fantasy ig session

on thu, 7 nov 1996, don watts wrote:

> hey all, i have maybe a new thread.....what song would you like to have
> the girls perform just for you.......just you and them in a studio maybe
> of dressing room like on 1200 curfews version of thin line........

pardon me for being a little repetative and such, but it would have
to be love will come to you... :)

anna

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subject:      re: susan, deb, and everyone else....

on mon, 11 nov 1996, karrie wrote:


> besides, it's winter, for god's sake.  who the
> hell is gonna wear t-shirts in cold temps and blinding snow...

i agree whole-heartedly!  i didn't get the last list shirt because i
had gotten one from a year ago that i had just been able to wear last
summer.  buying t-shirts in november/december sucks!  by the time i
actually got to wear it on a regular basis, it wasn't so new anymore.
i say we wait until the weather is more conducive to t-shirt attire.

anna

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if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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subject:      "map" live & video update

>> this is directed to all of the "boot" fanatics out there in list-land (by
>> definition:  those who need to have all the boots).  have any of you taken
>> the time to compile a map compilation tape that might mimic the released
>> product, having chosen the best and most clear versions of these songs,
>> arranged in a sensical order, and potentially including any introducing the
>> girls may have done (like 1200 curfews)?  i know if i had all the boots,
>> this is something i would try to do.  i think this would be way cool!! and
>> by no means a substitute for the real thing, which we will all gobble up
>> upon release.  it would be fun to see how it compares to the real thing.
>> would be an awesome tape tree deal too
>>

okay, yea, i'm trying to get all the demo tour boots to do this.  i have
everything but the texas shows.  unfortunately, i am still swamped with my
video compilation project for the list (on the road to austin) and so i'm
running behind.  i have a partial list of the songs and shows i would
include on this tape.  if there is someone who would really like to do
this, i could lend a hand  and take a backseat (gwendigo, are you doing
this?).
    video update:  well, still working hard at laying down the basic shots.
i do have a nov. 20 deadline to do the final editing at the tv station
where i'm an underground producer.  i expect to be asking the video dubbers
to send their blanks at thanksgiving.  i'm hoping list members will be
getting thier copies by xmas!

                        --sunny,
who is glad she's an unemployed artist and can do these goofy things.  :)

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 11:38:22 -0400
reply-to:     shanna freeman <sfreeman@coe.uga.edu>
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from:         shanna freeman <sfreeman@coe.uga.edu>
subject:      re: the wood song and what it means

i agreed mostly with your interpretation of tws...that's what i always
thought about it...a metaphor for life. just a few things...

anthony van pyre wrote:

[i divided the lyrics up by line, easier for me to follow that way}

no way construction of this tricky plan
was built by other then a greater hand
with a love that passes all our understanding
watching closely over the journey
yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide
takes more then all the courage i can muster up inside
but we get to have some answers when we reach the other side
the prize is always worth the rocky ride

>>this is where  it really clicked in for me
>>this passage is about god built by other then a greater hand  with a love
>>that passes  all our udnerstanding no way construction i kinda dont
>>understand nless it relates to the second part of this which is about
>>death crossing the great divide which is death takes more then all the
>>curage i can muster up iinside which is folks fear of death  we get some
>>answers on the other side ie when we pass over  least we think we do the
>>prize is always worth the rocky ride this could mean the peace that comes
>>with death
>>and as i said the wood isnt wood its yoru body or soul

okay, i think this passage is saying that 'no way' anyone else or anything
else but god could have 'constructed' this 'tricky plan' of life. god is
the one with the 'love that passes all our understanding watching closely
over the journey'. i agree with your interpretation of the 'great divide'.

but the wood is tired
and the wood is old
and we'll make it fine if the weather holds
and if the weather holds
then we'll have missed the point
that's where i need to go

>the
>wood isnt really wood its our body and souls we are tired havign been
>though alot in our lives nad we will make it if the weathe holds we think
>not realizing that this storm will actually put us where we need to be

i agree with this...maybe the 'wood is old' being our souls (old if you
believe in reincarnation ;)). think too about what wood is...something that
grows for centuries (those old trees) that is made and used in many
different forms against its will.

------------------

okay, this must be my longest post ever. ha. no, i'm not an english major,
why do you ask? ;)

oh, also...i missed out on the list t-shirt and it would really be nice to
be able to get one. however i realize that would be up to deb and that
she's a busy person.

smiles,

shanna

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
   _               |sfreeman@coe.uga.edu
_<_\_             |
<_    \__          |when we stand like
  |   ' /'   """.  |spotlights in a
   \___/     *  "  |mighty tower all
   /===\   /  ""   |for one and one
  |=||==|==d       |for all then we
  |= \d=|  |       |sing the common
   \===/   |  "    |call
"    \\o\\o "  "   |     -e.sailers
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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      re: dream shirt/dream sleeves & thanks

i know i am an obbessed fan when i hear the idea of having the tatoo printed
in the same place on the sleeve as it is on amy's arm and i am sold.  i like
the idea of putting all of the ideas to a vote.  maybe i will have to put the
tatoo on mine myself when i get it.  what are the copyright laws about
putting other people's photo's on something like this.  i love the photo on
the back of n*i*s.  this shirt is fun and so is that photo.  i like the idea
for a welcome shirt but that feels like something on a seperate shirt.

i am very grateful for the list and everyone who is participating in it.  all
of your beauty keeps shaking me.  huge thanks for the people who compiled the
faq.


:)   pj


this is a message, a message of love
love that moves from the inside out
love that never grows tired....ar

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subject:      ig concert dates

hey y'all,

   seems like i remember seeing a list of all the concerts ig has ever
played.  this would be a great list to compare boots against.  does anyone
know where i might have seen this (or was it all a dream?).


                        --sunny,

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reply-to:     pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
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subject:      ghost "trilogy" long and rambling..

even though i hate to delve this deeply into emilys' personal life it
seems that there was a trilogy goin on with ghost..
ghost being the first.. the secret wish for a love you just can't have
no matter how hard you want it .. or try to make it work( (the last truce
we ever came to from our adolescent wars..)and is now gone., but not
forgotten (you come regular like seasons , shadowing my dreams).i
interpret this tune as a song to love that never should have happened,
but did,,one of those where you know its gonna end, and end bad, and you
should get out right now,,but you can't..and when it does end..it never
really ends cause the longing and the hunger is always gonna be here
haunting you like a ghost..
the she writes the untitled song. (i tried my best to get over you..kept
my distance so  i wouldn't have to show that the things which i kept
hidden by my casual smile where the things that i needed you to
know).about finally admitting to the person ( or herself) that she
realizes she will never get that love back..or to a place where it
works.. no matter how hard she wishes or tries(sometimes i still think i
can get to you..then i laugh and think i could swim the seven seas.. its
just when i'm set to fly, theres a storm up in the sky,,when i'm set to
sail..there isn't any breeze..)..but there is a beginning to the
healing..(its been sometime now buti saw you in a photograph looking just
the way you did so long ago, i  can almost see you throw your head back
and start to laugh in that gentle way that used to let me know that
thingswere ok..and a hurting song is just a cliche' and whats the use if
they always always fade away..just like a song..just like everyone..but
you)..theres still that lingering ghost hangin in theres..cause
everything always fades away..but you.
it ends with what was really me..a realization that perhaps that love
never should have happened(i should have never crossed your path, funny
the things you wants the most should soon be taking back.slap my own hand
like a child stealing from the candy store)..maybe she realizes that it
was wrong to begin with, though there are still elements of that ghost
throughout..( i think i've taken to your smile...and i hunger for your
laugh,,do the craziest things like look around when i know you're no
where near me, break my back on a song when i know you're not there to
hear it...)...and in the end shes given up that ghost, she knows "it
ain;t gonna happen" and shes' ready to let it go..( i'm quite sure i'll
be alright, we all live we some distraction, its just too bad mine will
hang around all day and night , like an uninvited guest, you can't turn
away,try hard as you might, lord knows, i've tried)....
even though its over and life goes on theres always gonna be that
lingering wish and hope

and to complicate this rambling trilogy further..i think fare thee well
was the final chapter ( guess its not a trilogy any more but can't quite
think of the word for 4 parts).
shes finally able to say goodbye...

ok..so i'm rambling..no sleep in 5 days will do that to ya..
as you all probably guessed..i'm a emily fan..sure do like to look at amy
( she reminds me of my little brother sometimes,,can't quite say why/..)
but when it comes to "soul and guts",,emilys the one for me,,

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 13:04:22 +0000
reply-to:     "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
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subject:      listees get together (qigc)

qigc = questionable indigo girls content

hey y'all.  i'm going to be in athens/atlanta over thanksgiving and was
wondering if listees in the area would be interested in getting together
sometime to put a face with a name, and get to know eachother a little
better....

anybody interested, e-mail me in private.

-rich
-rich benson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
             -m. etheridge
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 11:30:10 -0800
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subject:      thanks!

thank you to everyone who wished me a happy birthday this weekend!:)

amy

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subject:      new orleans jazz fest. cancer  branch

can whomever was the cancer brach dubber for thisboot please
contact me...pretty please

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subject:      re: ig faq part 1 of 3
x-to:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
in-reply-to:  <199611080015.laa21487@cafu.fl.net.au>

i just read the new faq and i wanted to say it's wonderful!  very
complete, very helpful, very insightful, i just love it!  thanks to all
you folks who obviously put a lot of thought and love into creating this
resource.


--mani
                        (think myself into jail.)


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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 14:17:08 -0500
reply-to:     joe hamilton <fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
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subject:      collectors mailing list.

hey folks :) :)
first i wanted to thank everyone who's visited the web site and written me
and been very supportive in general :) there is much much more to come. i
am working on fixing things that people have suggested and then i will
start adding new things as well. if there is anything you'd like to see,
pleasel let me know..and hopefully it'll turn into a site you'd be proud
to bring home to mom. the newest feature is a collectors mailing list.

here's the actual text from the web page that describes how it's gonna
work....


since i spend way too much of my time looking for indigo girls stuff :)
i end up seeing things that i already have copies of. so i have decided to
start a mini collectibles mailing list. there are two ways this will work.

1st - you can send me your email address and i'll put you on a mailing
        list. then as i find things, i'll mail the group. i'll either
        give information as to where to find the item, or i will have
        purchased it myself assuming someone would want it. *i'd be
        afraid it might sell before i could get back* listees will also
        be able to write me about items they would like to sell, and
        i can then pass along that info to the group.

2nd - you can send me a want list. these must be at least generally
        priced. i know there are certain things out there that are
        special to certain people, and i will work hard to find them
        for you. i do need an idea though of what i can spend. for
        example, if i find a crazy game single - i would most certainly
        buy it if it was cheap, and if i had extras, offer it to the
        group - but if it was what i would call a normal price,
        i would refer to my want lists and if someone wanted it for that
        price, then i would reserve or buy the crazy game.

so that's two ways i can help you find what you are looking for. :)
for this service i ask two..count um two things in return.

1st - smile..really

2nd - if you ever see anything that you already have or that you just
        aren't interested in - or don't want to spend that much on..etc
        could you please let me know about it! :)

this should be a good way to keep us fellow collectors and fanatics
networked. so mail your questions, comments, address, want lists to

fortunateones@moonbase.com

so that's it.. if you'd like to see the page itself..go to
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones    then to the fortunate ones
records page..then at the bottom of thatpage it's under the search
service. i see lots of ig stuff for sale and often wonder if i should post
to the whole list.. just to play it safe and not waste anyone's time..i
decided that people who were interested in hearing about it could just let
me know. i think it can be a good thing.

i am going to be working on a deadbase type thing for the indigo girls.
i'm going to talk to russell to see how serious he thinks it could be.
.like if it should just be a fan thing..or if he would like to see
something like a ig everything book happen..and would maybe be willing to
help provide information for the book etc. i know that carolyn at
lifeblood has been compiling info for years and has probably the best
collection...so we'll definately need her help if she's out there :)

hope all is well with everyone and thanks again for pushing me to spend
the time to make a better site.

we are fortunate ones,
joe
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 15:24:06 +0000
reply-to:     "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
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from:         "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      much-needed boots

hey y'all.  i need to get four boots (tuesday's children, color me grey,
blue food, and live at the purple parrot).  i don't have anything to offer
other than blank tapes.  can anyone help?  please e-mail me privately.

thanks!

-rich benson
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cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
             -m. etheridge
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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 12:30:17 -0700
reply-to:     alan fleming <alanf@dorje.com>
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subject:      (nigc) shawn mullin tour

since shawn mullins was mentioned in the recent faq, i'll take that as
enough of a justification to post shawn's current tour schedule. :-)


shawn mullins shows:

11/12 - bitter end - new york city, ny - 8pm
11/13 - border's bookstore - lancaster, pa  (717-293-8022)
11/14 - the monks tunic - lancaster, pa - 8:30pm
11/15 - border's bookshop - philadelphia, pa - 8pm  (216-568-7400)
11/19 - harvey's on the mall - kalamazoo, mi  (616-349-8787)
11/20 - gypsy cafe - ann arbor, mi  (313-994-3940)
11/21 - stashes - columbus, oh - 8pm
11/22 - border's books and music - bloomington, in  - 8pm  (812-333-5500)
11/23 - monkabes - st. louis, mo
11/25 - rudyard kipling - louisville, ky - 8:30pm
11/26 - bluebird cafe - nashville, tn - 7:15pm
11/29 - southern lights coffeehouse - fairhope, al
11/30 - southern lights coffeehouse - fairhope, al
12/6  - eddie's attic - atlanta, ga
12/20 - sluggo's - pensacola, fl
12/22 - dragon's den - new orleans, la
12/31 - rainy day records - atlanta, ga - new year's eve party!  approx 10pm


shawn can be reached via email at:  smgrec@mindspring.com
cds/shirts/etc can be ordered via:  (800)/544-2886


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reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc birthdays

november 12
matther_pallamary@cpqm.saic.com (matthew pallamary)
happy 41st, matthew!!
every five years or so i look back on my life
and i have a good laugh...

nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com (nancy humphries
happy birthday, nancy!!
tryin' to hold it like rain in a river,
everything is getting bigger,
better, this  won't last forever,
touch   me   fall


also my superwonderful sister, who's now 12 years old!!  she's so cool!!!
(any greetings can go to tweisman@worldnet.att.net, subject line should
say "for hannah"--tell her you're friends of her favorite sister, and from
this list)
but, alas, she's not cool enough to like the girls.  ah, well, she's
young yet... so (if i can remember it) here's a quote from the song she
drove me bats with this summer:
sorry i'm not home right now
i'm walkin in a spiderweb
leave a message and i'll call you baaaaaaaaaaaaack.

(a prize to whoever can remember the name of the band!)


have an indigo year!


side note (of course ;) ): the birthday goddess officially thanks any and
all veterans on the list--she had a very good weekend. :)

a note in the running diatribe about the mountain (hi, mediancat!):
rrrggghhh!!!  when they do play female vocalists, it's the same 2 or 3
songs over and over and over again!  i've heard michelle shocked sing that
one about "i'm not ollllllld enough to be onnnnnnnnnnn my own, but i'm
much    to old    to stay" i don't know how many times.  and the other one
they're overplaying is sheryl crowe's one "every day is a winding road"
ooh ooh, here's some igc, y'all! (amazing isn't it)  anyway, the chorus
goes something like:
every day is a winding road
i get a little bit closer
every day is a painted sign
i get a little bit closer
(repeat, and then:)
i get a little bit closer, to feelin' fine.

nice sentiment, eh?

have a good week, everybody,
love,
the bg

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subject:      nigc - willy porter plea

hey y'all!

sorry to do the nigc thing, but i'll keep it brief - does anyone out
there have any willy porter stuff, pre-"dog eared dream" album?
i just love this guy's music!
saw him here in the u.k. as support for tori amos (who wasn't as good on
the night as dear willy - arghh!! blasphemy for all tori fans)

cheers


andrew

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reply-to:     "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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subject:      interpretation of my earlier post

fellow listees,

it has been brought to my attention that some of you misinterpreted my
apology and agreement when i said:

"i would be really pissed if people had my tattoo on their shirts and it
would be wierd to publicize our obessed fan status (jk)."

>what are you saying?  with the just kidding placed in your sentence
>that way, it appears that you are saying you don't care if amy's tattoo
>is on the shirts and have no problem with being preceived as obsessed.
>i am not sure if this is what you meant to convey or your grammar is
>just off, but i know a few people who have interpreted you post this
>way.

taking the context of the rest of my letter, i would have expected you
to interpret it differently. the "jk" appears after "publicizing our
obsessed fan status" not after "i would be pissed if everyone was
walking around with my tattoo". i thought someone might interpret it
wrong. it just sounded wierd saying "publicizing our obsessed fan
status" so i put a "jk" after it. the letter was totally sincere, and i
will try to be grammatically correct in the future.

>stealing a placemarker sign out of a store just because it says "indigo
>girls" on it, is not funny.  it is called theft.  what use does anyone
>have for a piece of walmart cardboard?  wanting it because it has
>"indigo girls" on it and then stealing it is beyond obsession, it's
>more like kleptomania...

if you will recall from the first post (around 2 weeks ago or something
like that), i didn't steal the divider from walmart, in fact, i never
said i did. this is an incorrect assumption. it would be crazy to steal
it, but it did cross my mind. i also stated that it would be better for
them if i left it there, which i did.

>i also heard that there was an incident when a fan broke into emily's
>house in order to obtain some pictures of emily.  i heard that this fan
>might have been a former listee. at first i couldn't believe such a
>thing.  with the recent t-shirt thread, it has become entirely
>plausible to me.

oh come on, man! although it might cross my mind to take the cd divider,
i would never, never, ever invade someone's privacy like that! i have
more respect for amy and emily than that and i sense an undertone that
this is aimed at me. you don't even know me! from a misinterpretation
and an incorrect assumption, you label me as a crazy, mentally sick,
obsessive, kleptomaniac girl.

i have to go do my research paper now. i never thought i would be flamed
for repenting for going overboard. sorry for the bandwidth, but i am
concerned with your perception of me.
amber

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reply-to:     sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
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from:         sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
subject:      re: the wood song

        that's a great interpretation, nathan. thanks. i had always
interpreted it a little differently, which goes to show you how one song
can mean many things to various people. i always sort of saw the ship as a
metaphor...the ocean was this life, the place we left was birth, and the
destination is death (or afterlife?).

>the thin horizen of a plan is almost clear my friends and i have had a
>hard time brusing our brains hard up agaisnt chainge of all the old dogs
>and the magician
>okay this i part i dotn really know <g> but id guess tryng to find a plan
>a way throgh a ever changing life

i kind of saw this as representing youth... the process of coming into who
you were going to be and where you were going in life. the old dogs and the
magician could represent tradition, and "bruising our brains" could be
trying to break tradition or conventional standards.

> and well make it fine if the weather holds and if the weather holds
>then well have missed the point the point thats where i need to go

        this line is one i have always liked. i think the storms refer to
life's unexpectedness, the turmoil that life often brings. if we all went
through our lives without any kind of problems, we would never learn or
grow.

>noway construction of this tricky plan was built by other then a greater
>hand

this just says that the ship had a builder. it has a very religious
meaning. someone, or something greater exists out there, because we
couldn't make it across this ocean ourselves.

anyway, most of the rest fit right in with what you wrote, nathan. thanks
for taking the time, it was really interesting to hear what it means to
other people!


                        =) smile (even if you are as half-asleep as i am),
                                        sherri


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reply-to:     indigopony@aol.com
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from:         indigopony@aol.com
subject:      that spiderweb song

> (a prize to whoever can remember the name of the band!)

ooh, i've heard this song!  it's "spiderwebs", by no doubt!  so what's my
prize?  i'll take *either* indigo girl...;)

peace, love, and happiness,
ponygirl (who is playing on her new computer! =)

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from:         "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
subject:      i can't believe it!

it's gonna be a good day!

i was just coming back to work from an offsite meeting, and the person i
was travelling with (her car) had a certain top 40, hip-hop, jamming boston
radio station tuned in the car (kiss 108 for you new englanders).  let's
just say they usually play dr. dre, ice cube, sometimes melissa, alanis
morrisette, and all at a faster speed than the original recording.  anyway,
we're driving back and all of a sudden, i hear the opening chords of....i
can't believe it...closer to fine!  wow!  i was in shock!  they never play
ig!

needless to say, it was at a faster speed than the original recording, but
i was liking it just the same!

sorry, i had to share....i hope it's a new trend...it's gonna be a good day....

joni  :>}

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reply-to:     deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
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from:         deb reiser <debbie@mei.com>
subject:      re: the wood song

>>the thin horizen of a plan is almost clear my friends and i have had a
>>hard time brusing our brains hard up agaisnt chainge of all the old dogs
>>and the magician
>>okay this i part i dotn really know <g> but id guess tryng to find a plan
>>a way throgh a ever changing life
>
>i kind of saw this as representing youth... the process of coming into who
>you were going to be and where you were going in life. the old dogs and the
>magician could represent tradition, and "bruising our brains" could be
>trying to break tradition or conventional standards.

guys, you're going a little too deep with this one. all she's saying is
that her and her buds are having a tough time facing and dealing with
change. the line "all the old dogs and the magician" is the adage "you
can't teach an old dog a new trick."

deb

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 17:23:41 -0500
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from:         rachael cannon <anaisbleu@aol.com>
subject:      re: next ig musical(nigc)

yes!!! i have heard tori's cover of somewhere over the rainbow-- in concert
~a month ago...
it makes me cry-- on tape!

--rachael

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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc birthday trivia

the first winner is....

kim rhoades (secruss@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu)!!!!!

she got the answer inside of 10 minutes!

but that was just a lucky coincidence, guess she happened to be online at
exactly the right time.  the birthday goddess knows all about playing
catch-up with list mail... :)

the next ones:

rebekah scholl (rss163@psu.edu)
margot laidacker (m.l.laidacker@mail.utexas.edu
amber batson (arbatson@hsutx.edu)
and
ponygirl (indigopony@aol.com)

congratulations, y'all!

you win the incomparable priviledge of having that song running through
your head (it has a really annoying intro--synthesized, boppy, for those
who haven't heard it) allllll day! ;d  just kidding, i like it too,
sorta.

gee, this trivia thing is fun!
peace and sleep,
the bg

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reply-to:     tracy - bounding back to school!!! <clumber@halcyon.com>
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from:         tracy - bounding back to school!!! <clumber@halcyon.com>
subject:      yet another t-shirt type post...

hey y'all...!
        personally, imowo (in my often worthless opinion) the shirts should
indeed be a yearly-ish offering.... makes them more special, and keep the
folks like deb and rob more sane... (well, we can pretend, anyhow).  yes,
many are new to the list... but like deb said... this list is a constantly
reforming creature, and we could never manage to make something like the
shirts offered to everyone.  it is not as if anyone is in charge of ig-l
merchandizing... these things simply spawn from the goodwill (and perhaps
naive altruism... lololol) of some of the listers.  thus, it is simply
unfair and counterintuitive to get upset at anyone doing such stuff simply
b/c they won't keep doing it all year.  i love my ig-l shirt.  i would like
another in the future... but i think once a year would be terrific.  in the
meantime, write the official fanclub and let them know if you want more
regular offerings from them.  there are several shirts offered from them,
and while none are "our" shirts, they do *directly* support indigo girls.
        this is the best mailing list, imo, and i love being a part of it
and having a shirt from it.  i appreciate the efforts of those who go out of
their way.
        and c'mon... 300 ppl out there declaring themselves on t-shirts to
be obsessed fans? i'd think a&e would be very very disturbed...  this would
possibly be a reason that they both cringe at talking about personal stuff.
yes, it is in fun and humor... but from their perspective?

oh and btw.. deb?  i thought you were pretty cool before.. but the following
set it in stone for me:
>it would be cool if we could, but keeping list
>t-shirts in stock requires up-front money. my dog needs dog food, so i
>can't afford to finance such a project.

woofs and ig;
tracy <who works hard to keep her dogs ensconced in the lifestyle to which
they have become accustomed... spoiled rotten>

"the story was not very solid,
        and one man was too stupid to sympathize with."

                -- jeni saulino, 2-10-94

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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
subject:      re: ig concert dates

>seems like i remember seeing a list of all the concerts ig has ever
>played.  this would be a great list to compare boots against.  does anyone
>know where i might have seen this (or was it all a dream?).

wasn' t this on the sony website ???  i haven't been there in a while but i
think it's there....


sasha

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reply-to:     jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
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from:         jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: yet another t-shirt type post...

>         and c'mon... 300 ppl out there declaring themselves on t-shirts
to
> be obsessed fans? i'd think a&e would be very very disturbed...  this
would
> possibly be a reason that they both cringe at talking about personal
stuff.
> yes, it is in fun and humor... but from their perspective?

yes, especially since one of the "you know you're obsessed when...."
postings included staking amy ray.  i'm sure she'd just get a kick out of
that !!!  and, yes, i'm kidding.  i'd be terrified if i were in her shoes
seeing all these obsession shirts.  we know, on the list, that it's all in
jest.  it's funny, and it's a great "me too" thing.  but the more i think
about it - a shirt is not a good idea.

- jen hall

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from:         jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: dream shirts

> and wha tabotu all the folks who didnt have money or time or are new and
> didnt get one  of the other ones??

it'll come around again.  deb has been all too gracious offering them for a
2nd (or was it 3rd) time.  plus, i see a whole lot of people wanting these
shirts and wanting deb to do them, but i don't see anyone offering
themselves to make them.  there is nothing stopping anyone from making
shirts.  if you want one bad enough - - make one.  but as for the
'official' list shirt, let's not get too greedy.  we'd be shirt-ed to
death.

- jen hall

ps.  can we now get off this topic?

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from:         glen rosendale <glen@atmel.com>
subject:      re: the wood song and what it means (long)

well, i feel the need to de-lurk because it seems so obvious to *me*
(which probably means i'm wrong :p ) but...the song seems to be using
the story of noah's ark and the great flood as a metaphor for life.
specifically:

        the wood song

        the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear
>>(first sight of land during the flood)
        my friends and i have had a tough time
        bruising our brains hard up against change
        all the old dogs and the magician
        now i see we're in the boat in two by twos
>>(noah's ark, animals collected for salvation by two's)
        only the heart that we have for a tool we could use
        and the very close quarters are hard to get used to
>>(the ark again, a tight space)
        love weighs the hull down with its weight
        but the wood is tired and the wood is old
>>(the boat is made of wood)
        and we'll make it fine if the weather holds
        but if the weather holds we'll have missed the point
        that's where i need to go

        no way construction of this tricky plan
        was built by other than a greater hand
>>(now the ark and the universe seem to be compared...noah)
>>(built the ark and the greater hand built the universe)
        with a love that passes all our understanding
        watching closely over the journey
        yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide
        seems more than all the courage i can muster up inside
        although we get to have some answers when we reach the other side
        the prize is always worth the rocky ride
        [chorus]

        sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
        skip to the final chapter of the book
        and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
        to get us where we are this far yeah
        but the question drowns in it's futility
>>("drowning" reference, back to the flood again)
        and even i have got to laugh at me
        no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
        just holding on for the ride
>>(the storm and the ride, again comparing to the flood)
        [chorus]

these are the concrete correlative passages i've marked. the subtler
details would take too much time to go into (and i'd probably be more
likely wrong :p) ... anyway, i was struck by the noah's ark imagery
right off when i first heard the song.

that's my take. ymmv.

glen rosendale (glen@atmel.com)

p.s. maybe i'll take one more stab...the wood is important, obviously.
     for the ark it's what separates the passengers from the flood;
     it's their protection and structure. the wood in our lives is the
     love we have for each other; it protects us from the "flood" and
     "storms" of loneliness, and gives us a structure to live within.
     the wood is tired and old; our love for each other can get the
     same way...but it still has strength and resilience.

     hmmm...maybe i should have just left well enough alone. oh well.

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subject:      re: dream shirts
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my theory is this we make one design a year and offer it every 3 months if
we get enough offers we print it up for that quarter


on tue, 12 nov 1996, jen hall wrote:

> > and wha tabotu all the folks who didnt have money or time or are new and
> > didnt get one  of the other ones??
>
> it'll come around again.  deb has been all too gracious offering them for a
> 2nd (or was it 3rd) time.  plus, i see a whole lot of people wanting these
> shirts and wanting deb to do them, but i don't see anyone offering
> themselves to make them.  there is nothing stopping anyone from making
> shirts.  if you want one bad enough - - make one.  but as for the
> 'official' list shirt, let's not get too greedy.  we'd be shirt-ed to
> death.
>
>  - jen hall
>
> ps.  can we now get off this topic?
>
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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 19:45:55 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: the wood song and what it means (long)
x-to:         glen rosendale <glen@atmel.com>
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i htought of the ark in the beginning to but it just dont work for the
rest of the song like the skip to the final chapater of the book thats
hwy i didnt put it down for the beginning cause i thought its gotta be
somethign else here cause that dont jive with the rest of what i thoughty


on tue, 12 nov 1996, glen rosendale wrote:

> well, i feel the need to de-lurk because it seems so obvious to *me*
> (which probably means i'm wrong :p ) but...the song seems to be using
> the story of noah's ark and the great flood as a metaphor for life.
> specifically:
>
>         the wood song
>
>         the thin horizon of a plan is almost clear
> >>(first sight of land during the flood)
>         my friends and i have had a tough time
>         bruising our brains hard up against change
>         all the old dogs and the magician
>         now i see we're in the boat in two by twos
> >>(noah's ark, animals collected for salvation by two's)
>         only the heart that we have for a tool we could use
>         and the very close quarters are hard to get used to
> >>(the ark again, a tight space)
>         love weighs the hull down with its weight
>         but the wood is tired and the wood is old
> >>(the boat is made of wood)
>         and we'll make it fine if the weather holds
>         but if the weather holds we'll have missed the point
>         that's where i need to go
>
>         no way construction of this tricky plan
>         was built by other than a greater hand
> >>(now the ark and the universe seem to be compared...noah)
> >>(built the ark and the greater hand built the universe)
>         with a love that passes all our understanding
>         watching closely over the journey
>         yeah but what it takes to cross the great divide
>         seems more than all the courage i can muster up inside
>         although we get to have some answers when we reach the other side
>         the prize is always worth the rocky ride
>         [chorus]
>
>         sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look
>         skip to the final chapter of the book
>         and then maybe steer us clear from some of the pain it took
>         to get us where we are this far yeah
>         but the question drowns in it's futility
> >>("drowning" reference, back to the flood again)
>         and even i have got to laugh at me
>         no one gets to miss the storm of what will be
>         just holding on for the ride
> >>(the storm and the ride, again comparing to the flood)
>         [chorus]
>
> these are the concrete correlative passages i've marked. the subtler
> details would take too much time to go into (and i'd probably be more
> likely wrong :p) ... anyway, i was struck by the noah's ark imagery
> right off when i first heard the song.
>
> that's my take. ymmv.
>
> glen rosendale (glen@atmel.com)
>
> p.s. maybe i'll take one more stab...the wood is important, obviously.
>      for the ark it's what separates the passengers from the flood;
>      it's their protection and structure. the wood in our lives is the
>      love we have for each other; it protects us from the "flood" and
>      "storms" of loneliness, and gives us a structure to live within.
>      the wood is tired and old; our love for each other can get the
>      same way...but it still has strength and resilience.
>
>      hmmm...maybe i should have just left well enough alone. oh well.
>
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reply-to:     sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      "map" live

well,  i was gonna do this for myself, then someone asked me to put
together a compilation tape of all the new stuff for him.  soooooo...i put
together a compilation tape of my best versions of the new songs. i decided
on the which version to put on based on a combination of sound quality, and
how good a performance it was. for some songs,  i had two versions i really
liked, or there was a significant change, or i had a radio version that had
good sound quality, so i put two versions on. in my opinion,  the songs
they perform on the radio just aren't quite as dynamic as at the shows, but
you can hear all the words.  so i put on both a radio and a concert
version.  here's the lineup:

it's alright   minneapolis, minn,  hte show  (concert version)
dgtgag, nff
winthrop,  austin, tx
chiapas bound,  nojf
get out the map,  nff
*cut it out,  santa fe
remember everything i told you,  santa fe
*cara mia,  mesa, ar
*hey kind friend,  bumbershoot
shame on you,  nojf/nff (haven't decided on which version yet)
it's alright,  philly's y100  (radio broadcast)
dgtgag,  world cafe radio
get out the map,  world cafe radio
shame on you,  santa fe
leeds, santa fe
chiapas bound, santa fe

the starred ones may change if the boots i'm expecting in the next few days
have a better version. i also may add a few more songs.  i plan on
finishing this in the next few days....which means, if anybody would like a
copy,  i would be more than willing to make you one.  i think most of these
are 1st generation boots, so on the copy you all will get, the songs will
be 3rd generation.

so, if you want a copy,  email me, and i'll send you my addy.  it's a 90
min tape, and if anybody wants to trade, send me your lists, cause that's
fun for
me :)

also,  i guess i could call this tape  "map live,"  but if anyone has a
better idea for a name,  let me know. or if anyone has anything else they
want on it that i am forgetting, or suggestions or anything, please please
please tell me!

alright,  i think that's it,  anyone who wants a copy, let me know, and i
hope that anyone else who is working on a similar project doesn't mind,
i'd love to hear what other people put together.

peace, love, and supercalafragalisticexpealadocious,

        sundara

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 19:46:06 -0500
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subject:      re: past concert date listing

        hi y'all...you can find a listing of their shows from when they
signed with epic in 1989 until newport folk festival 1995 on the girls sony
webpage under the road tour picture...
        it is really invaluable...

                jen

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subject:      musical metaphors (instead of those dang shirts!)

hey all!

how about a new thread, as we second jen's motion to move on past the =
shirt thang.

something we have noticed in ig's music is their use of, let's call them =
musical metaphors. that is, when they use their vocals or instruments to =
mirror what the lyrics are saying. examples of this would be: (at least, =
as we hear them) in the layered vocal of reunion, when amy sings "guard =
your faith, temper your speed" she does just that, tempers her speed =
(tempo) on the last line, slowing it down significantly. and an emily =
example would be on power of two, when she sings "the steel bars between =
me and a promise suddenly bend with ease". here, she literally bends her =
voice around that word (bends) and makes it all supple and mellow. while =
this may be a bit esoteric, it is a new ig thread, and we'd sure be =
interested in whether anybody else hears these kinds of things :)

peace, love and lots of esoteric igc

susan and jocelyn

(and, by the way, the shirts deb and rob did are fantastic! - we never =
thanked them publicly for all their hard work - we love them!)

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subject:      re: dream shirts
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on mon, 11 nov 1996, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> and wha tabotu all the folks who didnt have money or time or are new and
> didnt get one  of the other ones??
>
to add to this, my one request for the next shirt is that it happens
before school gets out in may.  i know many of us on the list are college
students, and it made it difficult (though not impossible - so i'm not
bitching, just commenting) to get shirts

happy day,
jennie

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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: howbout a poster instead?
x-to:         kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
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a poster is cool but i definately want a picture of the girls on it.
ben

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subject:      re: yet another t-shirt type post...

hey y'all,
  sorry to keep this thread alive...... i like the idea of the tee-shirt, if
only we could tone down the obsessiveness... ( maybe instead "you know you're
an extremely deadicated ig fan when....:) )my suggestion is that we try to
have a list shirt for each tour they do, like the previous shirt for the demo
tour and this new shirt for the upcoming album map.  (of course we wouldn't
have to make a shirt for hte and things like that)  this would even cut down
on the number of shirts we have to create, for they do less than one tour
every year.
just a suggestion ;d
*lou*
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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 18:26:56 -0700
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from:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu
subject:      re: next ig musical
x-to:         sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v03007806aead568c3658@[199.171.191.37]>

  ig doing legit sung musicals?  maybe starlight express but "chess" that
could be kinda scary too! how about "rent"?  amy could be mark and emily
could be mimi.  if you really want to get controversial amy could be
ralph and emily mimi:)
    for those of you who have never heard of "rent" save your money and
buy the cd's.  i think it's the best musical on broadway since "falsettos".
   that's it(again:)
ben

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 20:50:17 -0400
reply-to:     jess <jcantelo@vmsvax.simmons.edu>
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from:         jess <jcantelo@vmsvax.simmons.edu>
subject:      re: i can't believe it!
x-to:         "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v02140b00aeae91e23af6@[18.142.0.27]>

i couldn't believe it when i read this message....i was working out today
and heard ig on a different boston station!!  i jumped up and down and
got the whole gym to look at me funny!!  my roomate was in the adjoining
room and saw me....and said "how did i know???"  i'm working on
converting her....she often sings the songs in her head and doesn't even
know what they are!!!  i promise that by the end of the year she'll love
a&e!!

ahhhhhh....there is a god and her name is amy!!!

much love and indigo...

jess

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 18:27:03 -0500
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subject:      ig faq - part deux

hi there!
        would some kind soul send me part 2 of the new faq? i think i
missed it when the list went down. i've got parts 1 & 3. weird, huh?
thanks!

                                                        tuesday's child

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subject:      a big huge request (all igc)

please oh please can some kind soul help me!

i am moving and giving up internet access for a while, and before i
leave i want to get copies of...

blue food
purple parrot
demo tour norfolk aug. 96 (this was my first ig concert. i need it.)
disney channel performance (i had it and my friend taped over it!!!!)

if you have any of these and are willing to make a copy, i have a
meager trade of a picture of amy that anyone can get their hands
on, or i can send tapes. in fact, i'll send tapes regardless. but i
babble. please email me privately if interested.

jody

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 21:51:02 -0500
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subject:      what was really me

hey guys

what boot is "what was really me" on?  i don't believe i have heard this one.

thanks.

karrie

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from:         patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
subject:      my t-shirt & poster ideas

hey everybody~

first i wanna put in my 2 cents worth on the t-shirt.  i think there are
some very good ideas but i agree that we shouldn't oversaturate (economic
term) the list with another shirt.  i also think that the obsession idea is
a little much.  funny on the list, strange on a shirt.  here's my idea if
people want to do another shirt:

i was looking thruogh a sports catalouge and one of the popular things on
the market is the peace sign, a heart, and then something else at the
bottom. (maybe a volleyball or i've seen mickey mouse)  i think it would be
cool to have a peace sign, a heart and then ig or a&e vertically arranged on
the shirt.  i think that a&e would definately think this is cool cause
really two main things they stand for and sing about are peace and love.
this is just a suggestion for the next shirt (whenever that project may take
place).

one more related item.  i was thinking about making a poster before to the
theme of all i needed to know about life i learned from amy ray and emily
saliers.  my uncle owns a printing company so it would be possible to get a
deal (i've gotta call him yet though).  plus i don't think i have the
equipment or artistic ability to make the poster.  if anyone does, the idea
i have is all i ever needed... in big letters with the wisdom of a&e
surrounding it.  maybe a good shadow pic of them in the backround in grey or
something.  some great lines have already been posted to the list.  i'm
willing to compile them but i need someone to do the artwork.  if anyone is
interested in this project, let me know.

chin in hand w/ a thoughtful pose,
rob

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 22:18:37 -0500
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from:         tiffany <slugger@prolog.net>
subject:      shirts! decisions...

ok, to reply to what sundara said- it looks like i'll be handling the next
shirt (unless someone objects forcefully...) i just finished reading all of
your suggestions, and i've come up with something that i hope we can all
agree on! ready? here goes:

the shirt will be a long sleeve(i dont know about the henley idea though...)
i dont know if the copying of the indigo girls font is a good idea or
not(seeing as what deb said...) so for now what i'm going to do is this:
i've been talking to my artist friend who will hear about all your fine
suggestions, and im sure she will come up with a good logo type thing for
the front- possibly the logo with: thanks y'all on the top, and
indigo-girls@netspace.org at the bottom of the logo. on the back will be the
top ten list of "you know you're obsessed when..." with some drawings at the
top or something of that nature.

oooh-- new addition-- just read the post about posters. not a bad
idea--cheaper and its not something the girls can be offended by b/c chances
are they wont see it! so what we might want to do is make the top ten
obsessed list for the poster, and come up with something else creative for
the shirt.  i'll talk to my friend, see what she can do. what do y'all think
about this?

i understand what deb is saying about it being too short of a time between
this shirt and the last shirt. right now i'm just trying to compile ideas so
i can get a _tentative_ design for now, and put it on the web for your
critisisms, and we can get the best design possible from there.

any and all other suggestions are welcomed! let me know what you think.

your fearless(well...) leader-
tiff

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 22:49:21 -0500
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subject:      more musical metaphors

another musical metaphor (cool phrase!) is in center stage, when amy sings
"'well, your rhythm is off,' i reply", and she does exactly that with her
guitar
strumming...you can hear it on the album, but in live versions it's even more
pronounced.  i like this thread...=)

peace, love, and indigo nights,
ponygirl

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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: musical metaphors (instead of those dang shirts!)

in a message dated 96-11-12 20:12:45 est, teddie@telepath.com (susan
tomlinson) writes:

> how about a new thread, as we second jen's motion to move on past the shirt

> thang.
>
>  something we have noticed in ig's music is their use of, let's call them
> musical metaphors. that is, when they use their vocals or instruments to
> mirror what the lyrics are saying.

thank you, susan & jocelyn for posting something without mentioning the word
'shirt' (except for the first line, but that's ok ;)!

i love this thread, mostly because i think i've always been aware of so many
layers of a&e's music, but on a more subconscious level.  i tend to listen to
the music as a whole instead of focusing on each individual part.  so threads
like this one let me hear the songs in a new way;  i started hearing "the
whole as the sum of its parts" :)

anyway, the most obvious one that i could think of was in walk away during
the chorus, when amy sings 'there was too much repetition (over and over and
over again)' she repeats the guitar strumming thingy (i apologize, i am
unfamiliar with the whole guitar strumming terminology).  you can hear it
more clearly after the second verse when emily isn't singing the 'over and
over and over again' part.

then in kid fears the part where amy sings 'secret staircase, running high'
and emily answers, 'running high' she goes up in pitch on that.  on 'running
low' she goes down in pitch.

a less literal interpretation of mine is also in walk away, right before amy
starts her first verse she plays this guitar riff (is that the right term?;)
that sounds very much to me like she's trying to indicate a shrug of her
shoulders.  she does it also after the first line, 'we used to walk in each
other's arms, it was "one on one", that's what you said', adding a bit of
nonchalence to the song.  and it's done again right before the second verse.
i don't know if this is appropriate in this thread cause she's not really
'mirroring' what she's saying, but it's affecting its interpretation.

that's all for now... thank god there will be no more mentioning of the
s-word.

oh, i have to mention, i picked up patti rothberg's between the 1 and the 9
and i am very impressed.  has anyone heard it?  and do you know the
significance of the album title?  it's a cute story.

bye!  have a good one, everyone...

-sheri :)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 21:52:44 -0500
reply-to:     k645501b@edinboro.edu
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subject:      happy b-day list

another question from the snowed-in one.... (man, does living in erie pa have
it's downpoints....)

who do i send b-day info to?  i can't remember who it is!

thanks!

karrie

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reply-to:     c a finlayson <gynergy@juno.com>
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from:         c a finlayson <gynergy@juno.com>
subject:      musical metaphors

i always get a kick out of their cover of dylan's watchtower
when the lyric about "wildcats begin to growl" and emily does this sort
of growling thing on the guitar

gynergy

>from our children to our elders, from all nations we will rise
may respect for all our differences ,enhance our common ties
pat humphries "common threads"

http://members.aol.com/gynergy/index.html

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subject:      wood song interps

whew!  just finished going through 288 pieces of e-mail. that's what you get
if you skip reading for 4 days..

re: the wood song

the noah's ark thing was really good..
but what i thought the wood stood for was.. old, tired, but unwavering love?

"the wood is tough,
the wood is old,
and we'll make it fine
if the weather holds"

anyways, the good thing about songs is that with the best of them, you can put
in your own personal interpretations.  my own is of course biased by the fact
that i was once at the losing end of a failed relationship..

my $0.02
jao / dandelion wine

p.s. anyone here like toad the wet sprocket?

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reply-to:     deanna light <77light@cua.edu>
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from:         deanna light <77light@cua.edu>
subject:      quick apology

i just sent a request for a copy of the map live tape to some random person
on the list -- who may or may not have anything to do with the distribution
of this tape.  i only realized i'd sent it to the wrong person upon scrolling
down a little further through the digest and seeing the *real* address i
was supposed to send it to.  so if this was you, i apologize profusely!  if
it's not you, well, then, i apologize for sending the apology.  (i suddenly
feel like i'm in a monty python skit!)

sheepishly,
deanna

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subject:      color me grey

(i sent this a couple of days ago and never saw it in the digest so i am
trying again, apologies to anyone who got it twice)

nashville was not on the original 'color me grey'.  the story that i have
picked up over the years is that only seven copies of the original tape were
made and they were given out as christmas presents to friends and family in
1982.  the tape that has been so widely circulated was either a re-release
by amy (i heard a rumour about this at one time but have never found
anything to substantiate it) or a re-sequenced compilation tape of amy
tracks (with wrong titles and the beginning of one of the songs missing)
that a fan put together later on.  in addition to 'nashville', the last two
tracks were live versions of 'blood and fire' and 'land of canaan', which
have been removed from most dubs that are in circulation.

here is the set list from the original 'color me grey':

just passing time
no way out
losing touch
sweet gypsy
the distance remains the same
i'll be there
slow moving sea
thursday afternoon

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subject:      wood song

okay, you're gonna laugh...but for the longest time i thought the words
to the wood song were:

--but if the weather holds *at the vista point* that's where i need to go--

you know, on the highway, where the road is up a hill and overlooks some
scenery, they put in a vista point??????  every time i see one of those
now i think of a & e.  i don't know about y'all, but that's where _i_
need to go......

the lone coyote
(slinking back into her den)
;] hee hee hee

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      nigc--more annoying boppy songs...
in-reply-to:  <pine.a32.3.95.961112120122.17381c-100000@homer27.u.washington.edu>

sorry but when karey described her sister's song as annoying and boppy i
remembered another experience i had recently with an annoying and boppy
song.  i was driving around new england with a friend in october and this
song kept coming on the alternative & modern rock stations"

"all i wanna do is to thank you, even though i don't know who you are,
cuz you let me change lanes, while i was drivin' in my caaaaaaaaar
whoever you aaaaaaare i wanna thank yooooooooou...."

if you don't know it, you're lucky!  if you do know it, it'll be stuck in
your head forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

very, very deep apologies.......i'll try to help with this small bit of
happiness (albeit more nigc): i got dar williams' mortal city cd last
week and it is wonderful!!!!

"and that's not petty, as cool as i am, i thought you'd know this
already....i will not be afraid of women i will not be afraid of women"

that should help remedy the problem of the other song, but only if you
know dar....i'll shut up now.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      re: past concert date listing
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in-reply-to:  <199611130046.taa09069@shell.monmouth.com> from "jen lucero" at
              nov 12, 96 07:46:06 pm

it is not complete, and there are several wrong dates/venues/ missing stuff.
if you look at the '92 show @ newport on that date, it supposedly happened
on a monday 8^)
mike r.

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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      re: more musical metaphors
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how about in love will come to you:

".. only love can soothe that beast." and she does that cool little slide
thing with soothe :) i love this thread!

jen

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subject:      any boots, old material...

hi!
i am new to this list, but i am a huge fan of ig since i first heard them.
if anyone has any old collections or boots that they are interested in
selling or anything, i would love to get in contact.
i really do not have any trading material, but i am really interested.
thanks everyone-
jennifer mallet
jmallet@pepperdine.edu

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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      wooohooo!!!!

hey y'all...
i just hadda share my excitement. after all the talk about the girls doing
musicals, and my vote for cats... i got a really nice surprise... my sister
bought me a ticket for cats... vancouver's queen e theatre... row 13 front +
center on the 28th of december!!!... too cool... i wonder how weird she'll
think me if i continuously mutter, throughout the entire thing, "oh yeah...
i can see amy as that one" or "uh huh... definately an emily kitty..." :-)
peace all... kim ( who dearly loves irony + coincidences ) :-)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"halt!!! we are the fashion police!!!
put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-------<justkim>rcn@prcn.org----------
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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subject:      re: more musical metaphors

what about the obvious: the twinkle little star guitar picking pattern in
world falls?

and you can't hear it in emily's version, but the original piano version of
river starts out with jingle bells.  that is one of the things i miss most
about joni's version even though emily does a great cover.


don't be tempted by the shiny apple
don't you eat of a bitter fruit
hunger only for a taste of justice
hunger only for a world of truth
'cause all that you have is your soul
      -tracy chapman

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from:         mmedido@aol.com
subject:      re: amy's tattoo

in a message dated 96-11-11 18:57:57 est,tom write:

<< does anybody have a picture of amy's tattoo?  i didn't notice it on the
so tour, and i just read a description of it in the new faq.  or is that
too much an invasion of her privacy. >>

well..once we lured her in to kinko's with a promise of some
really cool activist literature...then we tricked her into laying
her arm across the color xerox machine and xeroxed it.
but she got kind of mad and wouldn't let is keep it.
;)
oh well.
love
binky (feeling much better thankyou *hack...wheeze*)
(personal emails that are owed to people will be forthcoming
after class.:)
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subject:      the (somewhat) harsh voice of reality
x-to:         deirdre_lynch@brown.edu

all this talk about t-shirts and posters has made me delurk again to harp
about copyright.since i have already discussed my views on boots(from the
artist's point of view) i now read all these shirt and poster ideas and find
myself again thinking of what the artists would feel in this situation.logic
like"they would never see them"doesn't wash here,as i am sure not much goes
by on this list that someone in the management of the indigo girls doesn't
see.making a specific list t-shirt to proclaim oneself a fan does little
harm,but using lyrics,photographs,or any other personal information(i.e:amy's
tatoo)is not only a serious infraction of copyright it is just plain
disrespectful.before anyone flames me please take a moment to think about how
you would feel if this was done to you.i am aware it is a thin line between
loving the music(as we all do)and stepping over the line in using ig content
for product.but i personally feel that we should strive to take the
inspiration we feel from them and turn it over into our own good works on
this planet.
    laurabell (who is very aware that standing up for what is right doesn't
always make a person popular)

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subject:      an appeal to the altruistic

ok, so i've been on this list for some three months now and have been
hearing about all these cool boots that i never knew existed.....and
well,....   i can"t take it anymore.   i must have them.

really want bad:
blue food
color me grey
purple parrot
days of wine & roses
anything else ig that just oozes cool

so here i am, on bended knees, begging for boots.  i have this nice value
pack of maxell xlii from costco just begging to be dubbed on.   i don't
believe i have anything of value to trade though (sniff sniff).  are there
some listees out there who wouldn't mind earning some nice karma points by
dubbing these for me?  would be in your debt for ....well, a long time.  if
not, you'll see me standing outside tower records in seattle in only my
list shirt holding a sign that says " sex for indigo girl boots"   - not a
pretty sight, trust me!.

won't you please help the less fortunate (me)
thx
betsy

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

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from:         chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      nigc: michelle shocked

there is a short review of michelle shocked in today's (13 nov. 96)
washington post, section d, page 7.

i know that there are several listees who listen to michelle, and i
thought i'd share this piece of information with y'all.  sorry about
the nigc.

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      wood song, mister limes, and the "s-word"
in-reply-to:  <pine.pmdf.3.91.961112211126.26314b-100000@axe.humboldt.edu>

on tue, 12 nov 1996, marianne barlow wrote:

> okay, you're gonna laugh...but for the longest time i thought the words
> to the wood song were:
>
> --but if the weather holds *at the vista point* that's where i need to go--
>

(snip)

i love mister limes!  i found a recent one of mine: in fugitive:"and i'd
give my last breath to keep us alive/*of a common thrust* with cameras or
guns..."
which explains why i didn't "get" fugitive for so long...

the "s-word" thing here (is this coming back as an official thread now
that we have decided to make it in the spring?) is that instead of having
you know you're obsessed, we could have a list of mister limes...someone
made a compilation a few months ago of the best ones, and maybe we could
revisit that?  i don't think it would be too much of an inside joke, it
doesn't really get us in trouble with copyright, and it really can't be
offensive, can it?  anyway, just a thought. :)

and as far as interpretations of ws: they're great. i think i remember
reading in an interview that em was talking about life as a boat, that it
was divinely created (no way construction of this tricky plan/was built by
other than a greater hand) and the point of life is not to be easy but to
weather the storms (if the weather holds we'll have missed the
point/that's where i need to go).  it works for me, anyway.

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reply-to:     roberto dominguez <rodogu@nifcosynergy.com>
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from:         roberto dominguez <rodogu@nifcosynergy.com>
subject:      hello there! i'm a new ig fan...

... and i'm also new in the list.

i just discovered the ig a couple of months ago, and well, what i can say,
they're just great!

i am mexican (now living in vancouver) so i just started listening
'contemporary' english-speaking folk music (i already know bob dylan and
joan baez). i would like to know more musicians, so please, recommend me
what to listen.

i would appreciate if somebody can tell me where can i get the faq file, i
don't want to make the same old questions.

gracias!

   el buen rodogu
        ////       "i wish i had a river i could skate away on"
        o-o                                      joni mitchell
         -

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from:         marcela navarrete <mpohl@tybrin.com>
subject:      re: an appeal to the altruistic
x-to:         mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>

does any one knows if the indigo girls still play? if so,
does anyone knows when and where do they play?  thanks,
marcela
-------------------------------------
name: marcela pohl
e-mail: mpohl@cp.tybrin.com
date: 11/13/96
time: 1:32:37 pm

go bucks!
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subject:      nomads*indians8saints

i don't know if the list has had a discussion about this, but i am
curious what people's feelings about nis are.  in my experience, it seems
to be the album (that most people i know) don't like too much and it is
probably my favorite.  it is a quieter album and it is great for just
sitting, having a cup of coffee and writing a letter to an old friend(or
something like that.  i hope y'all know what i'm talking about).  anyway,
i'd like to see what other people have to say about the album as a whole
or specific songs, etc.

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 15:36:30 -0500
reply-to:     "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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subject:      dar show on the radio friday in boston area
in-reply-to:  <e6887437011c0e00>

from the dar list:

>just a heads up:
>
>unless a live interview happens, (none scheduled at this point)
>91.9 fm will be airing a concert dar did for our members
>on november, 17, 1994.  if you're range, eastern massachusetts,
>check it out. a one hour show starting at noon, friday 11/15.
>
>brian quinn
>pd
>91.9 fm
>
>note: not a shameless plug for the station, just thought you may like to
>know. :)

if there is anyone from eastern mass who will be able to listen to this
show and make a copy, could you please, please let me know.   we don't
have decent radio reception where i work.

thank you,
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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subject:      i know it's your ego, keeps a smile on your face

howdy,

my name is brad parker and i am oh so very new to this indigo
girls mailing list, however i am not new to the indigo girls.
i know every word to every song from released albums including songs from
blue flood, the purple parrot, and color me gray.

anyway, just like another message i just read, i am looking for other
bootlegs.  anything which contains indigo material.  so, if anyone has
some other material, i'ld love to send you a blank tape, or trade with you.

my e-mail is      bradpark@indiana.edu

thanks

brad parker

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from:         alec <alec@pipeline.com>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
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personally, nis is my favorite album bar none (cept mabye 1200, but that
doesn't really count...)  my ultimate favorite song of all time from the ig
is hand me downs, and the rest of the album is just incredible... oh well,
phone doth call,

alec

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subject:      ig faq--where is it??

i'd like to check out the ig faq, but i can't find it. a web search
turned up two ig faqs which had more or less the same url, but my
server denies the existence of both of them. will some kind soul please
let me know what the correct url is, or (even better) e-mail me a copyu
of the faq? thanks...

tracy
th3307@wcu.edu

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subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
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where are the indigo girls from?
-------------------------------------
name: marcela pohl
e-mail: mpohl@cp.tybrin.com
date: 11/13/96
time: 3:09:20 pm

go bucks!
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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 16:27:25 -0500
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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subject:      re: nigc--more annoying boppy songs...
in-reply-to:  <a3917437011c0e00>

hi,

marianne barlow wrote:
> i was driving around new england with a friend in october and this
>song kept coming on the alternative & modern rock stations"
>
>"all i wanna do is to thank you, even though i don't know who you are,
>cuz you let me change lanes, while i was drivin' in my caaaaaaaaar
>whoever you aaaaaaare i wanna thank yooooooooou...."

unless i'm missing something, i think the song you heard was a parody
song.  there is a lightning seeds song called all i want which goes:

all i want, all i wanna do is make you listen from now on
stop what's going on, stop what's going wrong, oh you better listen from
now on
all i want, all i wanna do...

and matches up very well with what you wrote.  it definately is pop, but
i definately wouldn't call it an annoying boppy song.  it is actually
quite a dark song if you look at the lyrics.  i have heard a woman
singing it in a store, so it has been covered, but she seemed to be
singing the same lyrics, unless i just wasn't paying attention.

> i got dar williams' mortal city cd last  week and it is wonderful!!!!

if you haven't gotten the honesty room yet, i hgihly recommend it.  in
fact, i think it is even more wonderful than mortal city!  : )

: )
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      re: musical metaphors (instead of those dang shirts!)
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in-reply-to:  <961113013037_1782425600@emout15.mail.aol.com>

susan and jocelyn write...
> >  something we have noticed in ig's music is their use of, let's call them
> > musical metaphors. that is, when they use their vocals or instruments to
> > mirror what the lyrics are saying.

kim responds... joni mitchell has been very influential on one if not
both the ig...'she has always used music as metaphor and was heard very
recently on cbc radio talking about this. she mention miles davis as
another musician astutely aware of this level of artistic expression.
songs like vw and g take me immediately to another space and time, the
mood they generate is entrancing. peace all. kim (n.v.)

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from:         galileo <tbranham@richmond.edu>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints

in response to what staci wrote about liking nis, this is also one of my
favorite albums.  it is funny to hear that this is the least favorite album
of some.  most of my friends agree that it is one of their best.

"up on the watershed....."
tucker

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you have to laugh at yourself
because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
---ig
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from:         kelly fairbairn <kelly10@nicom.com>
subject:      re: an appeal to the altruistic
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mediancat wrote:
>
> ok, so i've been on this list for some three months now and have been
> hearing about all these cool boots that i never knew existed.....and
> well,....   i can"t take it anymore.   i must have them.
>
> really want bad:
> blue food
> color me grey
> purple parrot
> days of wine & roses
> anything else ig that just oozes cool
>


i feel the same way.  is there anyone out there that can help new people to trading?
the only boots i have are nirvana and phish.  i am desperate for old ig.  please
help me!!!

kelly

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from:         chris papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
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on wed, 13 nov 1996, staci robyn wrote:

> i don't know if the list has had a discussion about this, but i am
> curious what people's feelings about nis are.  in my experience, it seems
> to be the album (that most people i know) don't like too much and it is
> probably my favorite.  it is a quieter album and it is great for just
> sitting, having a cup of coffee and writing a letter to an old friend(or
> something like that.  i hope y'all know what i'm talking about).  anyway,
> i'd like to see what other people have to say about the album as a whole
> or specific songs, etc.

hrm...n*i*s, huh?  i happen to like that one.  it's got a fair number of
rather strong songs, imho, such as keeper of my heart, you and me of the
10000 wars, and pushing the needle too far.  great for putting on and
singing along, says me :)

chris.

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|                       center stage, indigo girls                        |
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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 10:47:58 +1100
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      sony ig page

hi everyone,

the sony ig page has moved (as of a couple of days ago apparently,
one day it was there, the next it wasn't).  the new url is:

http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epiccenter/docs/artistupdate.qry?artistid=83

and the new page doesn't seem to have half the info that was on the
old one and also sucks to connect to (their java script doesn't work
too well).  it also seems the concert date listing has been taken down
(at least, i can't see it, it might be my sucky connection, i'm not sure).

which means i have to ask this on the list: does anyone know the
actual date that "four voices in harmony" happened at newport '93?

and thanks to carolyn and mike reynolds for the further info on the
"color me grey" thing.  i'm still a mite confused but considerably
less so than before. :)

for the person who was looking for the ig faq, it is now at
http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig or ftp://space.mit.edu/cmb/ig.

okay, i think that's all.  happy happy all,
sherlyn

ps - gail anthony, mail me mail me mail me mail me mail me.  and
that's an order. :)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"god looks like a guidance counsellor, god's got that smile.
  god says, 'how could this be?  that's really odd.
  i guess i'll have to check my records,
  silly me, you know, i'm only god...' "      - dar williams

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subject:      nigc--thanks!!

hi!

i sent a message about getting some boots, and i have gotten responses
from several people.  i just wanted to say thank you to all of you who
responded to me.  i've had a rough couple of days, and this list has
been a source of faith for me.  i won't take up anymore space with this.
thanks again!!!

kelly

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subject:      mary chapin carpenter--nigc

sorry to post nigc, but i was at home sick today and while i was
watching rosie o'donnell, they advertised that m c-c will be on
tomorrow's show.  i won't be home in time to watch it, but i wanted
to pass this info on to any of you who are:)

christy:)
^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%
                "could you describe the ruckus, sir?"
                       --_the breakfast club_

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subject:      re: next ig musical
x-to:         smurphy@ups.edu

obviously you don't shop at my grocery store.
:p
sam

> just once i would like to be
>  somewhere, say the grocery store, and have everyone there start singing
>  about produce or something and dancing around with shopping carts.  hee
hee
>  hee.
>

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subject:      re: musical metaphors

how about in 1200c version of joking during the verse that sings "wide eyed
and laughing" amy starts to laugh.  cool thread.

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from:         bob dibetta <dibetta@pacbell.net>
subject:      david wilcox concert

a non-shirt list item (phew!) (but first-- my sympathies to deb whose
tremendous efforts have come under some amount of controversy lately--
it just doesn't seem right that for doing a great thing she is
beleaguered for the rest of the year with complaints about not
providing more....that said...)


for anyone in the california area, david wilcox is playing nov. 24 at
the great american music hall in san francisco.  i first heard david's
music when he opened for the indigo girls a few years ago in berkeley,
and he's terrific!  i saw him just over a year ago (headlining for
himself :) )  and he does a great concert- very warm, witty, personable.
i figure it'll probably be more of the same this time...i'll be there,
and it's a definite must see in my book.  tix are relatively
inexpensive- i think $13.00, but bass as usual, is tagging on quite a
bit, so i'd recommend avoiding them by calling the hall directly and
ordering tickets through them to save $... all seats are general
admission...


tina

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from:         danaw1208@aol.com
subject:      nigc- hey i've resurfaced

hey a big, huge, hello to all the listees out there....

just wanted to pass along good news to those on the
list who accompanied me this summer on my long journey
through taking the michigan bar exam........

i passed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  whew!!!!!

now the fun will really start.  =)
sanawike - hey girl - write me i've got more news too....

thanks for letting me waste a little bit of band...but had to
do it!!!!!!!!!

bye y'all
-dana

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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
in-reply-to:  <199611132209.raa28257@pinstripe.urich.edu>

hmmm, interesting thoughts on nis.  people don't like it?  with a
champion theme for life such as watershed?  hammer and a nail always
reminds me of spring cleaning (don't laugh)--getting down to the nuts and
bolts, "clearing webs from a hovel" etc. it's my favorite album.

and then there's strange fire with brilliant farce such as left it up to
me...hey jesus...left me a fool... strange fire is my favorite album.

oh, i can't forget ig, with the indescribable center stage and perennial
classics like history of us. ig is my favorite album...and rop is my
favorite album...and oh! swamp ophelia--that's my favorite album...

*************************************************************************
"lighten up, francis."
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
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from:         "samantha a. weisman" <sam22479@aol.com>
subject:      re: musical metaphors (instead of those dang shirts!)
x-to:         seaphish@aol.com

thought this musical metaphor thread was a perfect time bring up the song
"airplane"-- which i don't care what some of you say, is an awesome song!!!
                                   ne!
                                a
                             a
                          a
                        a
                     l
                  p
up on the air

oooh-- that part that all their voices go up like an airplane always makes me
giggle.
also, am i alone on this or is anyone else not able to actually fly somewhere
without getting "airplane" stuck in their head for the duration of the
flight?

coming in for a landing,
sam

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subject:      re: dream shirts

oh ! oh ! oh.....  !
i vote for the one with the two hula dancing kittens
on the front !
(just like amy's tattoo..... you know....
the one of the hula dancing kittens.)

oops...sorry.......wrong dimension.
:)
bongo (maybe im not feeling better after all....
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.. . .

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subject:      nigc--100 harsh facts, please read.

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i know people are very sick of forwarded mail.  i found this at some
website and i think it is very important to be read.  i hope that you
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100 harshest facts about our future

this list is from revolution x by rob nelson and jon cowan, co-founders of
lead... or leave. i encourage you to read the book. also peruse a modest
proposal to save the world.

  1. children born in 1994 will face lifetime tax rates of more than 80
     percent. (clinton administration 1994 budget)
  2. a teenager in 1990 was less likely to die of an accident, a
     cardiovascular disease, or pneumonia than his or her peer in 1960, but
     more than twice as likely to die by homicide or suicide. (public health
     service of the united states)
  3. since the first members of our generation were born (1961), america has
     experienced a 560 percent increase in violent crime, a 400 percent
     increase in births to unwed mothers, a tripling in teenage suicide, and
     a drop of almost 80 points in sat scores. (index of leading cultural
     indicators, william bennett)
  4. real wages peaked in 1973 and have been declining ever since, yet we
     work an average of one month more per year than we did two decades ago.
     (the great u-turn)
  5. air pollution costs the us as much as $40 billion annually in health
     care and lost economic productivity. (worldwatch state of the world
     report)
  6. each year u.s. factories spew 3 million tons of toxic chemicals into
     the air, land, and water. that compounds the over one-half billion tons
     of solid hazardous wastes - we're not talking about your garbage here -
     that get dumped across the nation for our generation to one day clean
     up. (the gale environmental scorecard)
  7. black teenagers are three times more likely to be killed by gun
     violence than by natural causes. (children's defense fund adolescent
     fact book)
  8. during the last 30 years the number of children living in poverty has
     increased by nearly 30 percent - with the greatest increase among white
     kids. (vanashing dreams)
  9. a monthly investment of $50 for 20 years will only provide for one year
     of tuition at a public college or university. (usa today)
10. the total cost to clean up our toxic waste mess is almost
     three-quarters of a trillion dollars - half the entire u.s. budget for
     a year. (worldwatch state of the world report)
11. fifteen percent of all infants born in 1994 will be exposed to illegal
     drugs while in the womb, and over 100,000 babies are born with crack
     addiction. (forham university and the office of national drug control)
12. since the mid-1970s, poverty among young adults (18 to 34) has gone up
     by 50 percent - while the median income of under-30 parents fell by a
     third. (vanishing dreams)
13. the median wage for an 18- to 24-year-old man dropped nearly 20 percent
     during the 1980s - and it continues to decline. (vanishing dreams)
14. half of the nation's uninsured population is under the age of 25.
     (national health survey, 1984)
15. in 1987, the u.s. released 1.2 million tons of toxic chemicals into our
     atmosphere, 670,000 tons into our soil, and 250,000 tons into our
     water. (international wildlife magazine)
16. in 1970, the japanese had none of the world market share in dynamic
     random access memories, a semiconductor device; by 1988, that share had
     risen to 80 percent. (selling our security)
17. in 1993, aids was the top killer of young adults in 64 cities and five
     states. in addition, the number of people with aids worldwide is
     expected to go from 14 million to 30 million by 2000. (usa today)
18. 25 percent of all african-american men in their 20s are either in
     prison, on probation, or on parole. and in the nation's capital, 70
     percent of all black men will be arrested at least once be>
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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 21:34:36 -0500
reply-to:     m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
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from:         m gordon <hdtx97a@prodigy.com>
subject:      nigc-mgordon kidnapped

ok--i'm lying; sort of.

my job has kidnapped me for the past 4-6 weeks and until nov 26 (big
ol' project -- comdex 96 convention).

for those that i owe stuff; i will promptly send it out after turkey
day.

jude, i will send you blanks, if you'll still have me (for the tape
tree).

i will try to keep up with posts (just went through 200 messages).

have a happy day!

melissa

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 22:45:39 -0500
reply-to:     rebekah s scholl <rss163@psu.edu>
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from:         rebekah s scholl <rss163@psu.edu>
subject:      n*i*s rocks

okay, n*i*s is the best album of all time.  well, yeah, i guess 1200 curfews
is a close call but i love n*i*s.  it is such an upbeat kind of album.  you
know?  it puts me in a good mood.  trust me that can be hard to do
sometimes.  :)  as soon as i put it on and here the first beat of h&an, i
start dancing.  well, maybe not dancing but i get uplifted definitely.  can
anyone relate?  i just love it.  i  can't imagine someone not liking every
song on that album especially h&an, watershed and most definitely ptntf.  i
love every single song on that album!  i find myself listening to it over
and over and over...i have to make myself dedicate some time to the other
albums too.  i don't want to play favorites but it is hard not to.  anyway,
that is just my opinion.  have a good night, day whatever it is.
au revoir,
rebekah
" i asked dana and she agreed with me. :)"
-------------------no other than sammy baby

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 19:49:04 -0800
reply-to:     caren d <carend@ix.netcom.com>
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from:         caren d <carend@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: ghost trilogy

when were "the untitled song" and "what was really me" written, before
or after "ghost"? and if possible could you post these lyrics, thanks
:)

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 20:11:37 -0800
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subject:      bonnie raitt plugs honor/ig at bridge benefit

i just got a tape of the sunday bridge benefit concert from this year.
the show is an annual acoustic benefit neil young has set up for a
school for severely handicapped children that his wife runs and his son
attends.  ig played there in 1994.  this year bonnie raitt did a
suprise set which included her track from honor.  by way of
introduction, she plugged the cd to the audience and thanked ig for
putting it together.

hugh barroll (who is pleased to work three of is favorite artists into
one post)

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 22:36:26 -0600
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints

ok, well here's my take on nis, an album that i love!

although i adore this album and think it has some of their strongest, and
certainly most intelectual material, there are some definite problems.
mainly, although i of course see each song as unique, you have to admit that
the tracks all sound the same (or at least most of them do.)
amy and emily weren't too bold in their instrumentation on nis and it shows!
i'd love to hear all the songs accompanied as well as hand me downs is!
i think (and amy and em seemed to hint at this in watershed, the video) that
they were probably a little nervous to release nis, since a lot of the songs
are pretty risky ("though not as risky as if they'd attempted to do a jazz
album" :)
so they seem to have toned down the instrumentation. i much prefer the 1200c
version of world falls and pushin the needle for that reason, they sound
much more real and emotional than the studio versions.
you definitely can't beat the lyrics on nis though, deep stuff!

:) abigail

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 23:34:21 -0500
reply-to:     elizabeth mayes bradbury <gt6702c@prism.gatech.edu>
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subject:      re: david wilcox concert
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in-reply-to:  <328a736a.77f6@pacbell.net> from "bob dibetta" at nov 13,
              96 05:18:34 pm

> for anyone in the california area, david wilcox is playing nov. 24 at
> the great american music hall in san francisco.  i first heard david's
> music when he opened for the indigo girls a few years ago in berkeley,
> and he's terrific!  i saw him just over a year ago (headlining for
> himself :) )  and he does a great concert- very warm, witty, personable.
>  i figure it'll probably be more of the same this time...i'll be there,
> and it's a definite must see in my book.  tix are relatively

hey,

i'm delurking to throw in a big plug for dvid. his is one of north
carlina's folk music treasurers. a $13 show is a steal! he's one of the
best performers i've ever seen. i saw him about 4 years ago and he broke
two strings during the show. no one came to replace the guitar. he started
tapping on the top of his guitar and doing rap/spoken word and changed the
strings never missing a beat. ok now that that's done, back to lurkdom.

eb

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 00:01:09 -0500
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from:         galileo <tbranham@richmond.edu>
subject:      re: n*i*s rocks

i have to agree with rebekah on this one.  nis is definately my favorite
album!!!  of course i love all of them, but the messages sent through the
songs like watershed hit really close to home.  plus...gotta love southland
in the spring time!!!  there is nothing like it:)

" nothing panned out as i planned....well i better learn how to swim cause
the crossing is chilly and wide...well i better learn how to stave the
emptiness and feed the hunger...when you're learning to face the path at
your pace every choice is worth your while..."  wow, those words are so
true..at least to me!

well, i guess i have said my part.

tucker(a female that can relate way too much to these words)!!

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