lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-11c


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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 21:27:09 -0800
reply-to:     "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
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from:         "kim: goddess in her own reality" <rcn@prcn.org>
subject:      re: seperate dimension dream shirts

at 09:19 pm 11/13/96 -0500, bongo ( binky's evil twin ) wrote:
>oh ! oh ! oh.....  !
>i vote for the one with the two hula dancing kittens
>on the front !
>(just like amy's tattoo..... you know....
> the one of the hula dancing kittens.)
>
oh man, get it right:-)
it's: just like amy's tatoo with the hula dancing
kittens in sequined ball gowns ( with big pink bows,
of course )!!! ( which dimension are you in, anyhow?? )
peace... kim ( i really love vanilla )
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"halt!!! we are the fashion police!!!
put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 00:33:28 -0500
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@monmouth.com>
subject:      re: nis

        hi y'all

        just had to jump in on this...i love nis, then again i love all of
the girls' material (of course...i've never been good at picking favorites).
        anyway, i spend a lot of time outside hiking and backpacking as part
of my job and everytime i'm underneath the trees whether stark in the winter
or full in the summer, i repeat to the obvious concern of those around me:

        "every tree limb overhead just seems to sit and wait
         until every step you take becomes a twist of fate."

        peace,
                jen

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 19:26:04 -0800
reply-to:     dragonman <djarrell@ix13.ix.netcom.com>
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from:         dragonman <djarrell@ix13.ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: musical metaphors

gynergy said:
>i always get a kick out of their cover of dylan's watchtower
>when the lyric about "wildcats begin to growl" and emily does this sort
>of growling thing on the guitar

i also think the way amy sings 'howl' ('and the wind began to howl") is
another example.  i have always loved the way she did this.

another big one is almost all of airplane.  lots of high pitches and
airsick-kinda sounds.  :)

btw, the literary term for a word that sounds like what it represents is
onomatopoeia.  so i think this thread should be called musical
onomatopoeias.  :-)

whatever,

:dwayne

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"i don't know what you saw,
i want someone who can see me" - dar williams, "as cool as i am"

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 00:44:01 -0500
reply-to:     andi <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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from:         andi <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
subject:      n*i*s rocks & the wood song

the girl with the oh-so-cool sig wrote:

<<okay, n*i*s is the best album of all time.  well, yeah, i guess 1200 curfews
is a close call but i love n*i*s.  it is such an upbeat kind of album.  you
know?  it puts me in a good mood.  trust me that can be hard to do
sometimes.  :)  as soon as i put it on and here the first beat of h&an, i
start dancing.  well, maybe not dancing but i get uplifted definitely.  can
anyone relate? ...etc...

" i asked dana and she agreed with me. :)"
-------------------no other than sammy baby>>


oh, i can definitely relate!  on those cold dreary mornings when the last
thing i want to do it get out of bed & go to class, i just put on h&an, &
as soon as i hear, "gotta get out of bed get a hammer and a nail..." i
really do get out of bed & start jumping around.  well, not exactly
jumping, but i do get up. :)  and you know what the best part is?  dana
agrees... ;)

on another note, i wanted to put in my $.02 on the wood song.  i think
everyone's interpretations on the whole song have been great, but i really
love this verse taken out of context...(am i allowed to take it out of
context?):

"but what it takes to cross the great divide seems more than all the
courage i can muster up inside but we get to have some answers when we
reach the other side the prize is always worth the rocky ride"--es

i always saw this part as symbolic of life, not death.  everything in life
that requires courage and may seem like a dauting task at first will prove
to be worthwhile in the end.  i think that many things that i have done in
my life  were "rocky rides" but the "prizes" were so great that it was
worth it.  "the prize is always worth the rocky ride," was my yearbook
quote too...

andi

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 22:16:59 -0800
reply-to:     sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
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from:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
subject:      map live compilation tape

alrighty!  just to make sure, if there is anyone who wrote me and i didn't
get back to you, please email me again.  :)

well, on to naming this tape!  here are some suggestions i got:

off the beaten path
getting out the map
off the map
mapped

i personally like "mapped"  but i'd like some input, so if anyone has
anymore ideas, or would like to help me decide,  please oh please email me
:)

thanks :)

peace, love, and an overabundance of :)!
        sundara

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 17:09:03 -0500
reply-to:     indirabbit@aol.com
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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      re: interpreting ghost

wow, y'all, i love this song...i remember, before i even owned rop and just
had the 1200c version, my gf and i and two of our friends were riding home
from somewhere and someone was playing rop in the car...whoever controlled
the radio that night...and ghost came on, and it was dark out already, and
summer, it was one of those really perfect nights, and we were all quietly
singing to ourselves, but halfway through realized that we were all singing
different parts (three of us were...i know, not three ig's but we made some
up :) and we all sometimes merged parts and it was this wonderful harmony and
happiness and friendship...compounded by the fact that my gf and i knew that
the time was coming closer and closer when we'd have to be apart and
actually, between all four of us, things were changed.  we still loved each
other but everything had to change and sometimes you just have to keep quiet.
very sad afterwards but at the time the experience was so beautiful.  a&e
will do that to ya, huh?  :)
thanks, btw, to everyone who posted or emailed me about gay literature...my
lit teacher is being very supportive and who knows, maybe the administration
will get a clue :)
peace love and tortillas
katy

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 14:01:19 -0800
reply-to:     candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
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from:         candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
subject:      re: wood song, mister limes, and the "s-word"

> okay, you're gonna laugh...but for the longest time i thought the words
> to the wood song were:
>
> --but if the weather holds *at the vista point* that's where i need to go--
>
>i love mister limes!  i found a recent one of mine: in fugitive:"and i'd
>give my last breath to keep us alive/*of a common thrust* with cameras or
>guns..."
>which explains why i didn't "get" fugitive for so long...

okay y'all...top this one...

"not content to bow and bend to the *winds of kosher* they swoop like vultures.."

...and i'm thinking, hmmmm..did emily eat a bad pickle or something?

...wheels in motion...
greta

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 16:08:26 -0600
reply-to:     tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
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from:         tritessa <gsajaf@noctrl.edu>
subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
x-to:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
in-reply-to:  <328a2ea5.185b@ix.netcom.com>

on the whole i would have to say nis is the album i listen to least. i'm
not really sure why but most of the songs just don't grab me. i love h&n,
y&mot10000w, and tgwtwotwihh, but for some reason that seems to be about
it. don't get me wrong, i /like/ the other songs, just not the way i love
the ones on other albums...

jen

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 20:39:26 -0600
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      re: next ig musical

hey, falsettos! now there's a great ig musical idea in itself! hmm, who
could they play though?  i can see emily as trina, the neurotic housewife,
and amy as whizzer, her husband's gay lover? well, now that would be an
interesting one!

"my father says that love's the most beautiful thing in the world,
i think girls are the most beautiful thing in the world, not love!"
                   ~ 13-year-old jason, protagonist of falsettos


>    for those of you who have never heard of "rent" save your money and
>buy the cd's.  i think it's the best musical on broadway since "falsettos".
>   that's it(again:)
>ben

:) abigail
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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 21:45:48 -0500
reply-to:     meylin@aol.com
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from:         meylin@aol.com
subject:      hello phili folks...nigc

sorry to bug the whole list for this, but i know this is a trustworthy group
of folks...for any of you in or around philadelphia...i'm heading to grad
school full time in the fall (leaving my cushy llittle teaching job in
lancaster county) to get my masters in journalism. i've narrowed my search
down to temple or upenn, but i've been warned over and over again not to go
to temple because the area is too dangerous.  any feedback from the city of
sisterly love??

(please email me privately)
thanx!
cathy

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date:         wed, 13 nov 1996 19:26:07 -0800
reply-to:     dragonman <djarrell@ix16.ix.netcom.com>
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from:         dragonman <djarrell@ix16.ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: wood song, mister limes, and the "s-word"

gwendigo said:
>and as far as interpretations of ws: they're great. i think i remember
>reading in an interview that em was talking about life as a boat, that it
>was divinely created (no way construction of this tricky plan/was built by
>other than a greater hand) and the point of life is not to be easy but to
>weather the storms (if the weather holds we'll have missed the
>point/that's where i need to go).  it works for me, anyway.

i agree with this.

here's a direct quote from emily from one of the swamp ophelia pre-release
shows (rochester institute of technology):

"this next song is about life.  well, sort of middle class, white, american
life.  you gotta be careful - not everyone can relate to (unintelligible
here)...  because some people are just struggling to stay alive in the
streets... and, so, this songs is called the wood song, though.  wood - like
wood that's in the trees or a boat."

then she started to play.  :)

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"i don't know what you saw,
i want someone who can see me" - dar williams, "as cool as i am"

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 03:05:51 -0600
reply-to:     tracy - bounding back to school!!! <clumber@halcyon.com>
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from:         tracy - bounding back to school!!! <clumber@halcyon.com>
subject:      re: nomads*indians*saints

staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com> reflected....

>i don't know if the list has had a discussion about this, but i am
>curious what people's feelings about nis are.
        actually, it is by far my favorite album.

tracy

"the story was not very solid,
        and one man was too stupid to sympathize with."

                -- jeni saulino, 2-10-94

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 07:26:03 -0500
reply-to:     "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
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from:         "richard l. benson" <cobweb@grove.ufl.edu>
subject:      airplane

sam wrote:  "also, am i alone on this or is anyone else not able to =
actually fly somewhere without getting "airplane" stuck in their head =
for the duration of the
flight?"

actually, i am afraid to fly--of taking off and landing and turbulence.  =
during take-offs and landings, i close my eyes really tight and sing =
airplane out loud to myself--people think i am really strange, but it is =
my only salvation.

-rich
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cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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piece by piece i take apart
this complicated heart
and i hope to find
something i can prove is real
i can feel is truth
i can say is mine
              -m. etheridge
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date:         tue, 12 nov 1996 12:05:58 -0500
reply-to:     kellie deis <kdeis@kent.edu>
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from:         kellie deis <kdeis@kent.edu>
subject:      shirts

i feel htat it is not too early for a new shirt...this is an altogether
different shirt than the last ones...this one should be fun. yes, i think it
is important to show the beauty of ig music, and the other shirt does that
extremely well... but this one should be fun. i think we should just see how
many are interested in one, because i htink there will be more than enough.
at any rate, you can count me in.


kel

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 09:20:40 est
reply-to:     deng@vnet.ibm.com
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from:         deng@vnet.ibm.com
subject:      an ig cd & song title challenge

compose some sort of multi-paragraph composition that contains the titles of
all commercially released ig cds and song titles.  the requirements are:

1.  the cd titles must appear somewhere in the first sentence of each
     paragraph and must follow their release date order.
2.  all song titles of the cd must appear in the paragraph...if you are
     really good, the order in which they appear on the cd.
3.  each sentence must contain at least one or more ig title.  sentences
     have to make sense and you can't split up titles.

so the first paragraph might have:

in 19xx i was introduced to the indigo girls cd.  before i had kid fears of
the prince of darkness but now their music makes me feel closer to fine.

(whatever!)  anyways, i was curious as to whether anyone on the list thinks
they can do it...this seems to be right up the alley of "obsessed fan"!

alternatively, i'd also like to see which listee was capable of writing
the longest paragraph uses nothing but ig song titles (any ig song titles,
not necessarily from a cd and titles don't have to be in order).

i'm not sure which worries me more - that i thought of this...or that someone
might actually be able to do it!  if you have a pretty good solution, e-mail
me 'cause i'd love to see it...oh, and the prize?...uhhh...well...a post to
the list glorifying your name! (hmmm...is that an incentive or a threat? haha)

de

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 10:04:53 +1900
reply-to:     mpohl@tybrin.com
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from:         marcela navarrete <mpohl@tybrin.com>
subject:      re: shirts
x-to:         kellie deis <kdeis@kent.edu>

does anyone knows if the ig play anywhere locally?  maybe
atlanta anywhere?  thanks, marcela.

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name: marcela pohl
e-mail: mpohl@cp.tybrin.com
date: 11/14/96
time: 8:48:30 am

go bucks!
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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 10:12:31 -0500
reply-to:     k645501b@edinboro.edu
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subject:      ya know it's gonna be a scary day when......

hey listers....

i climbed out from the 3 and a half feet of snow here in erie and surrounding
snowbelts this morning to go to the grocery store.  as i am gathering various
items of need, i find my self singing along with the musak.  "crime was lookin'
up the truth, and as the bombshells of my daily fears explode....."

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!  they made a musak version of "galilieo!!!!"

this, my fellow ig friends, is the bombshell of my daily fears, and baby, did
it explode.

crawling back under the snow drifts and praying to god that i heard wrong-

karrie

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 10:20:02 -0500
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subject:      ball gowns and sequins....

well.................

imho, every sexy ball gown needs accessories.

i say we make little earrings, one of amy and one of emily, and give them
trollhair that matches the color of our respective gowns.  i also think we
all need over-the-elbow satin gloves in respective colors, with "indigo" on
one and "girls" on the other.  proper ball gown wearers always should have
a clutch purse, and that should be made up of a patchwork of all the ig
album covers.  finally, i think that we should all have 4 inch spike satin
heels, dyed to match, with "amy" across the toe of one and "emily" across the
toe of the other.

then, we should all go to a habitat for humanity fundraiser!  :)


feeling snowed in, silly and scared of musak-

karrie

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 10:49:59 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: map live compilation tape
x-to:         sundara <smurphy@ups.edu>
in-reply-to:  <v01530509aeb068aede1f@[192.220.223.77]>

how about scenes from a map<g>

on wed, 13 nov 1996, sundara wrote:

> alrighty!  just to make sure, if there is anyone who wrote me and i didn't
> get back to you, please email me again.  :)
>
> well, on to naming this tape!  here are some suggestions i got:
>
> off the beaten path
> getting out the map
> off the map
> mapped
>

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 11:30:40 -0400
reply-to:     "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
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from:         "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
subject:      to all you "amy's part" singers...

hi y'all:

remember the thread we had a few days ago regarding singing parts?  well,
whadd'ya think of this?

does anyone out there (besides me) have the boot from "ghost" (the u-pay-4
bootlegs service) of "emily and friends in  decatur square 8/4/96" with
bonus "emily at rock for aids 2, 8/18/96?"  or any other "emily only" or
"amy only" boot where one or the other sings an ig song alone?  that's what
is on the "ghost" boot (amy was supposed to be there, but her plane was
delayed - em had to go on solo).

so for all you amy's part singers...here's your chance to hear what you and
you alone sound like singing your favorite ig song with emily!  it's just
emily (with michelle malone, michael lorant, kristen hall, etc...no amy).
not that i don't love amy's singing, but to hear just emily singing the
songs without amy put a whole new twist on the same old songs. for example,
in the song ghost, emily sang her normal lead (some people in the audience
tried to help her out).  when i popped it in the deck in my car and began
to sing, i wailed out amy's part and (blush) i must say we sounded pretty
good (at least in my head....hahaha)  in ctf, emily sang amy's part!  whoa,
that threw me at first!  so i had to quickly raise an octave or two to pick
up em's part!  it was great!  you all need to experience this on your own!

so.......if anyone want's to discuss this further, email me privately.

i'll fill you in on how to get a copy of this boot.....  ;o)

hope y'all have a nice day!

joni  :>}

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 12:04:35 -0500
reply-to:     joanne <indigo@kirk.anderson.edu>
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from:         joanne <indigo@kirk.anderson.edu>
subject:      more pleading for boots

hey, everyone!  i know we've had a lot of people pleading for various boots,
so i considered suffering in silence.

however, my love of ig overcame me and here i am, on my knees (i can cry if
you want).

i have no material possessions to offer (except blank tapes), but you can
feel a warm glow of goodwill come over you when you realize that the list
will be free from hoosiers
(at least the ones around me) begging for boots.

i have many friends who love ig and if i get boots, they won't need to
degrade themselves.  i'll have done it for them.  any charity that you may
feel will be greatly appreciated.

j.

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reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
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i strenuously object!  (name that movie kids!)

> mainly, although i of course see each song as unique, you have to admit that
> the tracks all sound the same (or at least most of them do.)

no way do i agree with that.  keep the album in sequence: the
instrumentation is far more developed than strange fire or ig, because
it's their third album...nothing like the stuff they are doing now (six?
years later) because they didn't play banjo and piano and dulcimer and
melodica and all that.  at the time they were pretty much relying on
friends to add additional instrumentation because they played, well,
accoustic guitar.  but the guitar tracks on this album are extremely
innovative (ptntf, watershed, sits).  and remember this is the album with
world falls!  this album took me a few more listens to get used to it than
the others.  one of the beauties of ig music is that their maturation as
musicians is clearly "map"ped out (couldn't resist!) through the years.
even listening to their voices change--they are constantly evolving.  i
don't think it's fair to judge nis for being timid as compared to their
most recent material.  and the tracks don't sound the same! (at least to
me..)
:)  my usually useless opinion,
gwen

> are pretty risky ("though not as risky as if they'd attempted to do a jazz
> album" :)
> so they seem to have toned down the instrumentation. i much prefer the 1200c
> version of world falls and pushin the needle for that reason, they sound
> much more real and emotional than the studio versions.
> you definitely can't beat the lyrics on nis though, deep stuff!
>
> :) abigail
>
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> *  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
> *   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
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subject:      re: musical onomatopoeias :)

on wed, 13 nov 1996, sam wote:

> also, am i alone on this or is anyone else not able to actually fly somewhere
> without getting "airplane" stuck in their head for the duration of the
> flight?

i did a lot of flying this year and that song was always in my head
for at least part of the flight... :)

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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subject:      boots for newbies

hey, all you oldtimers and boot magnates!  <g>
with all of these new requests, i think it's time we offer some must haves
for newbies.

my copies are several gen's old, but if no one else will do it, i will
offer to copy purple parrot and no curfews for the newbies.  i think these
two are a good start for any newbie (for those who weren't around then, no
curfews is a compilation that sunny made from several boots, including
some rarities and classic performances--it's a great intro to the world of
ig boots).  will someone else come forward?  we could do a tree or
something for these guys--we all had to start somewhere!
:)

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i strenously object..name that movie kids (a challenge from gwendingo)


"a few good men" - demi moore ...in the court room much to tom's chagrin.

p.s. really really love nis...can't imagine anyone not loving it.

peace, kim (north van.)

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subject:      bootleg offer-first 15

hi everyone-

i was just thinking back to my own poor sorry newbie status two springs
and half-way across the country ago, when all of a sudden, oh my *gawd* i
realized there was other non-released ig material!  now, a tearful thanks
to you all, especially my pals howdy and deb and all, i have like 50
bootlegs.  so in the spirit of good will, specially after that whole
t-shit--oops, i mean shirt--fiasco--oops, i mean situation--ahem, i'm
gonna offer some bootlegs!

i'm offering to copy my copy of blue food, 60m.  here are the rules:

1)  you must have fewer than five indigo-girls bootlegs in your collection
2)  you must be a newbie
3)  you must be really nice to me and kiss up and offer me free candy and
pasta recipes
4)  you must must must must must include a note saying which bootleg you
want, cause i'm presently on about 15 bootleg trees and in the middle of
as many trades
5)  you must be one of the first 15 cute little people to respond to this
message.

i'll tell you where to send your sase, i prefer maxell xlii 60m tapes,
since that makes it easier for me.

e-mail me and i'll send more info.

crayons to you all,

chris ii

ps- back in utah, we said "craaaans"

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subject:      re: musical metaphors
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hey y'all,

on wed, 13 nov 1996, dragonman wrote:

> btw, the literary term for a word that sounds like what it represents is
> onomatopoeia.  so i think this thread should be called musical
> onomatopoeias.  :-)

last spring i took a class on exactly this topic.  what we called it was
text-painting.  (not to correct or criticize, just adding feedback.)
for the papers of course i wrote about the girls.  the short paper was
about ghost, and the long one was about so.  various listers can attest to
how long it was, how stressed i was, etc. :)  but i feel good about the so
paper, and i could post it or private email it if anybody wants.

peace and more of this great thread,
karey

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i have to agree that nis is my favorite album.  i could listen to the
first 4 tracks over and over and over and over and over....have i made my
point?

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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subject:      nigc more birthday winners

here's 2 more cool peole who knew my sister's fave band is no doubt!

steve (whoadave@ix.netcom.com)
and
sam (sam22479@aol.com)

congratulations!

everybody send your awed messages of worship!
;d
the bg

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subject:      nis

i love nis, always have and always will!  the funny thing is that i
didn't listen to it right away - i was too busy being in love with
the self-titled tape!:)  when i did finally start listening to it, i was overcome with
all these emotions ranging from really happy to rather sad (like
listening to h&an and then tgwtwotwihh). nis has a different sound
than the self-titled tape and even the message seems different, too.
i find it interesting that in ctf, the message was to take life less
seriously and in h&an, the message is to get out there and do
something with your life instead of letting it pass you by...it
seemed like maybe a&e talked a lot before writing the songs on nis,
talked about how they really felt about life and the world, and what
beauty is to each of them and what happiness is...
i totally identify with amy and her lyrics, "i wish i was a nomad,
an indian, or a saint/give me walking shoes, feathered arms, and a
key to heaven's gate"
i think our experience of the world is cluttered by so many things
sometimes that are out of our control that it is hard to see the
constant beauty the world portrays - to see the world through the
eyes of a nomad, indian, or saint would be most like seeing the world
for the first time...
well, that sort of covers another thread about world falls but i also
wanted to put my $.02 about nis,too =)

thanks, y'all

kim

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always call clubs to confirm shows the afternoon of show.  especially
if you are planning to travel.  thanks for your continued support.
we look forward to seeing you soon.

please note: this schedule has been adjusted!!!!!!

november

14th    hepburns  baltimore, md   9-11  410-276-9310
15th    party for justice  towson state university, towson md with
        suade, karen goldburg, susan harric, pat humphries and a post
        show reception for back stage ticket holders. will be a great
        show and is being held in the university union, 3rd floor.
        show starts 7:30pm
21st    vienna tap & grill  vienna, va  9-12am  703-255-0800
22nd    sister's  phila., pa  10-1am  215-735-0735
23rd    hawthorne's  greenbelt, md  9-1:30am  301-552-3030
24th    coconut's  baltimore, md  8:30-10:30pm  410-383-6064
30th    macgregor's  havre de grace, md  9-1am  410-575-6900

december

4th    phase i  washington, dc  9-11pm  202-544-6831
5th    vienna tap & grill  vienna, va  9-12am  703-255-0800
12th    mr. henry's upstairs  washington, dc  8-11pm  202-546-6886
13th    frogg pond  rehoboth beach, de  9-1am  302-227-2234
14th    frogg pond  9-1am
15th    coconut's  baltimore, md  8:30-10:30pm  410-383-6064
19th    south ramp  greenville, sc  9-11pm
20th    traxx  columbia, sc  9-11pm
21st    christmas party  alamance, nc
28th    savory cafe  takoma park, md  301-270-2233
31st    the hide away  rock hill, sc  10-2am  new year's party!!!!

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confusion? is this a schedule for the girls?

on thu, 14 nov 1996 comnbond@radix.net wrote:

> always call clubs to confirm shows the afternoon of show.  especially
> if you are planning to travel.  thanks for your continued support.
> we look forward to seeing you soon.
>
> please note: this schedule has been adjusted!!!!!!
>
> november
>
> 14th    hepburns  baltimore, md   9-11  410-276-9310
> 15th    party for justice  towson state university, towson md with
>         suade, karen goldburg, susan harric, pat humphries and a post
>         show reception for back stage ticket holders. will be a great
>         show and is being held in the university union, 3rd floor.
>         show starts 7:30pm
> 21st    vienna tap & grill  vienna, va  9-12am  703-255-0800
> 22nd    sister's  phila., pa  10-1am  215-735-0735
> 23rd    hawthorne's  greenbelt, md  9-1:30am  301-552-3030
> 24th    coconut's  baltimore, md  8:30-10:30pm  410-383-6064
> 30th    macgregor's  havre de grace, md  9-1am  410-575-6900
>
> december
>
>  4th    phase i  washington, dc  9-11pm  202-544-6831
>  5th    vienna tap & grill  vienna, va  9-12am  703-255-0800
> 12th    mr. henry's upstairs  washington, dc  8-11pm  202-546-6886
> 13th    frogg pond  rehoboth beach, de  9-1am  302-227-2234
> 14th    frogg pond  9-1am
> 15th    coconut's  baltimore, md  8:30-10:30pm  410-383-6064
> 19th    south ramp  greenville, sc  9-11pm
> 20th    traxx  columbia, sc  9-11pm
> 21st    christmas party  alamance, nc
> 28th    savory cafe  takoma park, md  301-270-2233
> 31st    the hide away  rock hill, sc  10-2am  new year's party!!!!
>
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subject:      digest version

does anyone else on the digest version seem to miss a post here and there
every once in a while?  i see quotes and reposts of messages i've never read.
happy weekend!
lori


"if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."
                                         sheryl crow

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subject:      re: bootleg offer-first 15
x-to:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>

hi there!!!

i saw your little post, and i must say...you are an angel!!!(how's that for
kissing up??)

yes, i am a newbie.  :p

anyways, i have five boots exactly so far (complicated girls, history of us,
nothing to hide, the ep and more, and in with the out crowd)

i'm interested in the blue food copy, and also was wondering if you also
have the "purple parrot" boot or the "days of wine and roses"  (i hope i'm
not sounding too greedy :) actually, i'd be happy if i can get one boot off
of you ;p)

anyways, please email me back regarding this!!!

--sue (who, along with the blank tapes, is offering to send you japanese
candy, the best candy in the world...)
at 02:17 pm 11/14/96 -0500, christine talbot wrote:
>hi everyone-
>
>i was just thinking back to my own poor sorry newbie status two springs
>and half-way across the country ago, when all of a sudden, oh my *gawd* i
>realized there was other non-released ig material!  now, a tearful thanks
>to you all, especially my pals howdy and deb and all, i have like 50
>bootlegs.  so in the spirit of good will, specially after that whole
>t-shit--oops, i mean shirt--fiasco--oops, i mean situation--ahem, i'm
>gonna offer some bootlegs!
>
>i'm offering to copy my copy of blue food, 60m.  here are the rules:
>
>1)  you must have fewer than five indigo-girls bootlegs in your collection
>2)  you must be a newbie
>3)  you must be really nice to me and kiss up and offer me free candy and
>pasta recipes
>4)  you must must must must must include a note saying which bootleg you
>want, cause i'm presently on about 15 bootleg trees and in the middle of
>as many trades
>5)  you must be one of the first 15 cute little people to respond to this
>message.
>
>i'll tell you where to send your sase, i prefer maxell xlii 60m tapes,
>since that makes it easier for me.
>
>e-mail me and i'll send more info.
>
>crayons to you all,
>
>chris ii
>
>ps- back in utah, we said "craaaans"
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      not going to vic or nyc but...

i am just too damn *tired* to make the trip, which sounds like a horrible
excuse but i don't think i would travel that far for any artist (and even
though i got invited to the party of my dreams, i still am not going) i
think i have gone insane. i actually feel a passion to get caught up in my
latin class. if any of you really want to check out a great new cd buy vic
chesnutt's "about to choke"


and for any boston  area list people -- i will be at the billy bragg show at
the avalon saturday. email me if you want to meet up somewhere..
mike r

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      there's more than corn in indiana (nigc)

--- you wrote:
i have no material possessions to offer (except blank tapes), but you can
feel a warm glow of goodwill come over you when you realize that the list
will be free from hoosiers
(at least the ones around me) begging for boots.

--- end of quoted material ---
***did someone say.....hoo....hoo......
hoosiers?

as greg knows, there will always be at one hoosier on this list, and she will
probably always be looking (altho not begging) for boots :)

kissy huggy,
susan simpson-murphy ;)

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subject:      schedule

to whom it may concern,

the schedule of shows that you just received is for a group out of
washington, dc called commonbond. they are a female due,
performing original songs.  they have two cd's out and perform all over
the east coast.  someone sent us this address for the indigo girls and we
added it to our mailing list.  you are the second response to the mail
i just sent and i realized that the address we received must have been the
indigo girls list of fans.  we do appologize and will gladly remove your
address from the list if you so desire.

sincerely,


robbie morsette
wolfsong management

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subject:      nigc--anyone for ani?

hi there...
my two friends and i are going to see ani this saterday in harrisonburg va.
the show starts at 8:30.  anyone going? btw, does anyone live or go to
school in va...anywhere near richmond?  just wondering!!:)

tucker

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subject:      re: nomads*indians8saints
x-to:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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by far nis is my favorite ig album!!!
ben

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hey someone knows this show!!! actually i think everyone should know this
sj\how. i'll be willing to make tapes for anyone that wants it. emily
would be a great trina and how about amy as marvin and michelle as
whizzer.
god i love that show!
ben
" ....my ex-husbands ex-lover, just what every woman dreams about having
at a little league game."
-william finn

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subject:      another boot plea

hey all, although i'm not a newbie there are still some early boots i
don't have. write me back if you want to trade and i'll mail you back a
list of my boots.
ok i would like to have
1. b-band (tuesday's children)
2. blue food
3. the study hall boot
...any other concerts from their earlier years.
also if anyone has a copy of "wild wild party at the loquat tree" i would
love to have that too!
thanks alot,
ben

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subject:      nigc-ani and sarah m

hi everyone...

i was just wondering if anyone from the list in the dc, md, va area are going
to see ani on sunday ????

oh yeah and whfs just announced sarah mclachlan is playing their second
nutcracker show  at the 9:30 club... i'm so excited.. anyone else thinking of
going..i think fiona apple will be there too.....  hope everone is having a
wonderful day.

peace
sasha

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subject:      boots? please?

hello,
i'm pretty new on the list, and i'm looking for any bootlegs anyone would
like to trade me??? (please   :-)
i accidentally deleted chris' wonderful offer, but if anyone else is
interested in trading, i'd be most appreiciative! email me privately if
interested.

also, does anyone on the list live in the baton rouge/new orleans area?

-rachael

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subject:      indigo girls pre-epic releases

i was wondering if anyone had pre-epic releases who wouldn't mind me
sending them blank tapes so that i could get copies. please let me know.
lindsay thrift
lthrift@wellesley.edu

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subject:      tribute album...

i'm deperately looking for a copy of that tribute album, any of the
three volumes. if anyone cn help, i'd appreciate it.
meghan
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

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subject:      re: nigc--more annoying boppy songs

hi,

marianne barlow wrote:
> i was driving around new england with a friend in october and this
>song kept coming on the alternative & modern rock stations"
>
>"all i wanna do is to thank you, even though i don't know who you are,
>cuz you let me change lanes, while i was drivin' in my caaaaaaaaar
>whoever you aaaaaaare i wanna thank yooooooooou...."

>unless i'm missing something, i think the song you heard was a parody
>song.  there is a lightning seeds song called all i want which goes:

that song you heard is called 'whoever you are' and is by geggy tah.

madeline.

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>
> for those that i owe stuff; i will promptly send it out after turkey
> day.

since some of us were late sending in the blanks, some of us will
also be very paitient about getting our boots. thanks <grin>!

....................
tony at mendina                   "the only thing to prevent
mendina@utdallas.edu              what's past is to put a stop
dallas, texas usa                 to it before it happens."
972-907-1057                        --sir boyle roche

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subject:      ball gowns and sequins....

>
>i say we make little earrings, one of amy and one of emily, and give them
>trollhair that matches the color of our respective gowns.  i also think we
>all need over-the-elbow satin gloves in respective colors, with "indigo" on
>one and "girls" on the other.  proper ball gown wearers always should have
>a clutch purse, and that should be made up of a patchwork of all the ig
>album covers.  finally, i think that we should all have 4 inch spike satin
>heels, dyed to match, with "amy" across the toe of one and "emily" across the
>toe of the other.
>
>then, we should all go to a habitat for humanity fundraiser!  :)
>

don't forget saving those maxell points for some limousines and grape nut
caviar....


"if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."
                                         sheryl crow

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subject:      (warning-long)attn newbies! boot offer and how to mail cassettes
              101

hey all!  i sent a msg earlier today offering to make copies of no curfews
and purple parrot.  so far no one has stepped forward to help on a tape
tree, so unless i get some takers who already have one or both of these, i
am going to limit this batch to the first 25 responses.  i have already
gotten 4 or 5 that i have replied to, so that leaves about 20.

how to mail cassettes 101 is not about being dumb...it's just that there
is a semi-standard procedure to mailing cassettes out for boots, and it's
better to get all our ducks in a row now, for those of you who are totally
new to bootlegs.  so, boots are either traded for another boot, traded for
blank cassettes (usually 2 blanks for one boot), or just dubbed for free
on your cassette.  boots are not sold on this list, because the point of
bootlegged ig music is not to make a profit but just to share live
performances and rare unreleased material.  amy and em have said when
asked about boots that they don't mind if fans trade them as long as no
one is making a bunch of money off them.  my offer here is just a free dub
on your tapes, meaning you don't have to send me extra blanks as
"payment" or compensation.
--about your tapes: be sure the right length tape is being sent.  most
shows and other stuff is recorded on 90 min tapes,but some are 60 and some
are 100.  be sure you know how long the boot is and you send the right
length tape.  make sure your tape is a high bias tape, (e.g. maxell xl-ii)
and if the dubber specifies which brand to send, that means they have
bought a bunch and pre-dubbed them, and will send you the one they already
dubbed and keep your blank.  so if the brand is specified, do your best to
send the right brand to them.
--you can mail your tapes with or without their protective plastic cover.
if i send more than one tape, i usually don't include the cover because of
the extra weight and postage.  however, if you don't include the cover you
must have a good quality padded mailer to ensure that your tapes don't get
damaged in the mail (you still run the risk of having them munched, tho).
--your cassette mailer is something like a sandwich.  when you have a
package all ready to send to the dubber, you have in the very inside
your cassette tapes, a note that tells the dubber what you want dubbed
(very important!) and your email address.  these three things are inside a
padded return mailer that has your address written on it or on a mailing
label and enough postage to ensure your tapes get back to you.  all of
this goes inside a manila envelope (or another padded mailer if you want
to be extra careful) with the dubber's address on it and postage. it can
be sent first class if it is under 16 oz. (otherwise it's a mail bomb,
according to usps)
--about postage (in the us): i believe in the us the postage for one tape
one way is $.87.  if you have a post office you don't mind dealing with,
take your unsealed bootleg sandwich to the po and have the tape(s) and
sase weighed and correct postage put on, then weigh the whole sandwich and
have that postage put on.

i know, you all are thinking "duh, gwen" but i needed this info when i
first started.  sorry this is so long.  newbies, start yer engines....
if anyone wants to be a "branch" (currently it's a boot pole) lemme know!
*************************************************************************
"lighten up, francis."
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
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              14, 96 10:47:58 am

newport '93 was 8/8 august 8th
'92 was aug 9th (when the storm hit....)
mike r.

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subject:      boots for blanks

hi all

i have some ig boots that i will trade. i will trade for blanks if that's
all you have (at a ratio of 3:1) but i prefer to trade for concerts. you
can check out my list at

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~dg723/boots.htm

you can also find a link to a tape traders' website there. folks will
sell tapes at a reasonable price, sometimes.

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3 to 1 is outragous the normal ratio is 2 to 1


on thu, 14 nov 1996, sue molyneaux wrote:

> hi all
>
> i have some ig boots that i will trade. i will trade for blanks if that's
> all you have (at a ratio of 3:1) but i prefer to trade for concerts. you
> can check out my list at
>
> http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~dg723/boots.htm
>
> you can also find a link to a tape traders' website there. folks will
> sell tapes at a reasonable price, sometimes.
>
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subject:      trading ratio

> 3 to 1 is outragous the normal ratio is 2 to 1

personally, i think 2:1 is outrageous as well (but 3:1 is borderline
criminal). there are so many people on this list who will copy a show for
you if you just send them a blank and return postage. there is no reason
you have to get shows from the small number of people who ask for any
compensation, whether it be money or extra blanks.

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subject:      viva la diva review/sigc (pretty long)

     'hi'-dy ho, listees!  in the past, some of you have expressed an
interest in the atlanta music scene, so i thought i'd post a little review of
last week's viva la diva show.  there is some small igc, but you may have to
squint your eyes and hold a printout up to a mirror to see it.  oh, well,
here goes...
    the band lift opened the night at the star community bar down in little
five points, giving a stellar performance.  they've been mentioned on the
list before but this was my first opportunity to hear them play.  stellar's
the name of their cd.  they're fronted by molly bancroft, who's voice really
reconfigures conventional amplified sound, and sustained by the guitar work
of david patterson.  julie clark holds down the low end and simone simonton
beats the drums, some of you might note simonton's name scattered across the
ig cd's package inserts.  anyway, lift's set was smooth, the  vocals gently
interwoven with the music, to give a sound that is very conducive to the
scb's sound system.  (the scb was just named "best rock club/critics' choice"
in creative loafing's best of atlanta edition.  ig, surprize!, were named
"best acoustic band/artist/readers' choice."  creative loafing is online at
http://www.creativeloafing.com)  bancroft's prying lyrics and the easy guitar
interplay between her and patterson make for a great bar band dynamic.  in
truth, the only detraction from the show was possibly the band-members'
annoying habit of continuously appearing to enjoy themselves onstage.  so
much damn smiling!  what's this?  seriously, previous posts to the list
commending lift were on the mark.  if you're interested in finding out more
about them, you can check out
their webpage at  http:www.rainy.com/lift.html.  ah, yeah, they're one of
rainy day record's featured bands, so you'll be able to check out some other
local music if you're interested at rdr's homepage  http://rainy.com.
     for those of you who may have bought viva la diva's first disc greatest
hits vol. 1 and then chucked it on the shelf, my advice is for you to get it
down and take another listen.  you'll most likely find, to your pleasure,
that the songs have each coalesced into their own entities and lost that
underlying hint of fractious indigoless-ness.  the music's sense of implosion
really correlates well with a 'big bang' concept of generating a new band.
as well, you'll want to contrast the guitar riffs of candi josini, who's now
doing solo gigs around town, with the work of stacey cargel , vld's new
axe-wielder.  the band's undergoing other changes, as well, since thursday
was jan dykes' last gig with them.  mentionings have been made about a gh vol
2, and hopefully dykes will be part of a second recording.  oh, and the
show...they open big and loud with the always enigmatic cooper seay providing
her throaty, apalatal vocals to the room.  (eventually, i suspect, ms seay
will be required to have the title "the enigmatic" permanantly and legally
prefixed to what is already a pretty cool name...but i digress...)  the older
songs from the cd are tight and well-delivered, while cargel's addition gives
them a certain phreshness, an ever-so-slightly-different interp.  in all
honesty, this was not the best performance i've seen from vld and that may
be, in part, due to vast number of shot glasses that various audience
members/line dancers had delivered to the stage for the departing ms dykes.
seay seemed a little off this evening as well, but then, i think that's part
of the show, hmmm, it's pretty hard to tell with her ('cause she's enigmatic,
see?).  in addition to seay, much of their energy comes from wayne glass's
fantastic textural drumming.  glass tends toward a complex, rhythmic
percussion (rather than the melodic type of, say, jerry marrota, andy
stochansky, or carter beauford which, though i like it, doesn't really pack
that angst-ridden drive)  imho, since dykes seems to be a somewhat
punk-influenced, very rhythmic bass player, the addition of a less rhythmic,
more melodic bassist could really be an interesting change for this band.
the  newer songs were seamlessly laced into the set and provided a clean
lure for a future recording.  they closed the set with a fervent rendition of
"when you're ready" for which they were joined onstage by lady ray, herself,
who furnished the counter-vocals for the song, which, unfortunately did not
quite reach the "i'll have what she's having" intensity of the recorded
version.  cooper can take an audience there on her own, but she didn't quite
get there on this night.  even on an off night, though,  vld still gives the
audience that experience of seeing musicians make music and not just perform
it - and that's what its all about, isn't it?  or was the hokey-pokey really
what it's all about...i forget... oh, if you're interested in finding out
more about vld, they also have a web page at
  http://www.monsterbit.com/vld/vld.html.  you can order their cd from the
website or perry, or something.
    oh, by the way, the opinion expressed are my own - i don't work for any
of the candidates.  in fact, i don't work at all!  that's why i have time to
post this tripe to the list!  really, though, i thought you might enjoy a
break from the saga of the list shirts.
    btw, both ani and melissa played in atlanta last night.  i opted for ani
'cause i've seen sonograms before.  :)   for anyone who remains ani difranco
- illiterate, she's supposed to be on conan o'brien on november 20th, so ya
might want to catch that.

peace

"a few minutes later, he bumped one of the stretchers against the wall and a
bullet rolled out. although tomlinson was not certain whether the bullet came
from the connally stretcher or the adjacent one, the commission has concluded
that the bullet came from the governor's stretcher."
the warren report: the official report on the assassination of president john
f. kennedy, released to the public september 27, 1964.

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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      blue food offer closed

sorry potential newbie friends out there, but the blue food offer is
officially closed.  my goodness there's a ton of you out there.  speak up,
speak up!  demand your rights!  demand the kindness of other listees
;-)dpp8or whatever.  love to you all, though, just in case...

chris ii  (oh, and for the newbies, i'm chris ii because there is another
chris on this list (hi there, honey!) and when i first joined people kept
thinking i was him, and i'm a her, so it was really wierd.  i hear there's
a chris iii out there, but i haven't heard him/her/it post since about
july.  where are you???  so that's the deal with my sig, in case you
care...)

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 23:56:58 -0500
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      pitch in!  help a newbie today!

come on guys, we all know what a thrill it is to discover that the *indigo
girls* actually have *bootlegs*!  i remember it.  so let's all pitch in
and help this unusually large bunch of newbies (like, 36 posts in 6 hours,
dude) get their boots started.  kudos to gwen, who posted that fab-o thing
about how to mail tapes and whatnot.  (i'd volunteer for tape trees, but
right now i'm on three, plus my most recent bootleg offer, so i'm trying
to maintain some sense of order about it all, but if'n ya need me, i'm
always here for you, babe!)

so make an offer today!  the kharma gods will be good to you.  if you have
the time and the bootlegs and you do not make an offer, may you sprain
your ankle and twist your thumb! ;-) :-d :-8 or whatever......

come on people, get together!

love,
chris ii

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subject:      color me grey/white dot show
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  i'd be happy to make a 10 or 15 copies of "color me grey" and  amy's
white dot show. if anyone is interested just write me back and i'll send
you my address.
    ben

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date:         fri, 15 nov 1996 01:24:24 +0500
reply-to:     "stacey l. vamvas" <svamvas@vt.edu>
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from:         "stacey l. vamvas" <svamvas@vt.edu>
subject:      thanks (nigc)

hey everyone,

i just wanted to say thanks to all of you for making all of us newbies feel
right at home.  i really do appreciate all the help.  also thanks for
offering all the boots.  i guess you guys remember what it's like to be a
new fan (with no clue).  so thanks again.

stacey (who thinks joining the list was one of the best things she'e ever done)

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subject:      all of this boot groveling...really !

now, now, my dearies....
you know that auntie jude
is working her fingers to bloody nubs organizing
the *mother of all newbie tape trees* where aaaaalll
(or at least most) of your wishes will come true in one
fell swoop...these things take time and organization.
so have patience my little love muffins....aaaaalllll
in good tiiiime...aaaaaaaall in good tiiiiime :)

soon my friends ...soon.
:)
love,
binky
"the same sun that warms yur skin will suck that booger dry !"
emily saliers (the one from the *other* dimension)

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date:         thu, 14 nov 1996 22:35:44 -0800
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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subject:      boot offer closed (for now)

i know there are lots of you who weren't even signed on in the length of
time it took to post the offer, get the 25 folks and close it...i am very
sorry. :(  but trust me when i say i just can't handle more than this
right now....here is what you should watch for if you want to start a boot
collection:
1. maybe someone else will jump in soon and do this same offer or another
one,
2. keep your eyes open for tape trees--this will happen when a new boot is
available.  whoever has it will arrange ten or so folks to be 'branches'
and you just write to your person (arranged by zodiac, usually) and they
tell you where to send your tape, with no obligation to send blanks or
trade boots.

between these two options, you can build up a good starter collection and
then be in a good position to start trading.  and another hint, it's
easier to get to know kind friends who are willing to dub for you if you
post on the list!  :)  so let's hear your voices, newbies!  :)  i'm sure
i'll make an offer like this again once i regain my sanity...happy day,
all!

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from:         carrie shafer <shafer@kingsnet.com>
subject:      help please

hey out there!
if anyone owns the jcs: a resurrection video, could you e-mail me pretty
please?  i just got my copy today, but i think it is defective because
it ends quite abruptly after michael lorant as judas finishes a song.  i
know there is more to the play and other songs, but i can't be 100% sure
this is not just how this tape is supposed to end unless i hear from
someone else who has it.  i'm waiting for a response from daemon
records, but i figured there are bound to be some people on the list who
have this video.  please e-mail me if you do, so i can trade my tape in
for a proper copy if it is indeed defective.  thanks so much.
carrie

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from:         rex choi <hero@prairienet.org>
subject:      re: boots for blanks

>3 to 1 is outragous the normal ratio is 2 to 1
>
>
>on thu, 14 nov 1996, sue molyneaux wrote:
>
>> i have some ig boots that i will trade. i will trade for blanks if that's
>> all you have (at a ratio of 3:1) but i prefer to trade for concerts. you
>> can check out my list at
>>
>> you can also find a link to a tape traders' website there. folks will
>> sell tapes at a reasonable price, sometimes.

not to mention that selling boots is illegal most anywhere in the us. :)


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from:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
subject:      last years boot dubs

seems like there are a lot of folks out there who don't have the purple
parrot, blue food, and color me grey tapes that i dubbed for so many people
on the list last year.  i mailed out 200 copies of each and am not in a
position right now to do that again.  maybe some of you who got them last
year could copy yours for 5 or 10 people?  one person has already done that,
and if everybody chips in it would not be much work for anyone and would
help those who don't have them enjoy the tapes that you have had all this
time.  also, if you post to the list and have them respond to you privately,
we might be able to cut down on the number of posts that are looking for
them.  the same thing goes with the boots from some of the more recent
trees, if you have a little time and can return the favor of dubbing them
for a few people it makes a huge difference in the long run.  we're all in
this together.

thanks and have a good day

carolyn

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subject:      re: last years boot dubs
x-to:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
in-reply-to:  <2.2.32.19961115115837.0068da38@onramp.net>

i am in a position over christmas break to dub 20-30 tapes, if the tapes
and a sase is sent to me.  i have:

blood and fire
complicated girls
cover me grey
color me grey

the rest of my boots are overplayed, and i don't have good copies...two of
them broke because i played them too much.

if someone could email me with info, i will dub for 20-30 people.

love
aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
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subject:      tape trading etiquette

--- sue molyneaux wrote:
hi all

i have some ig boots that i will trade. i will trade for blanks if that's
all you have (at a ratio of 3:1) but i prefer to trade for concerts. you
can check out my list at

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~dg723/boots.htm

you can also find a link to a tape traders' website there. folks will
sell tapes at a reasonable price, sometimes.
--- end of quoted material ---

okay, call me carzy here, but trading tapes and requiring extra blanks in
return seems to me to constitute payment. i think we all know where emily and
amy stand on "dubbing for profit". i'd like to encourage folks who want boots
traded to contact those of us who do it for free....a 3 to 1 ratio is
especially unreasonable.

i make boots for people all the time, and i do it because other folks did it
for me when i started collecting. i am concerned that with the recent influx of
newbies to the list, people will get taken advantage of. don't do it folks...my
advice is, those of us with boots from time to time set up tape trees of stuff
we have (like jude has done with the older boots we all should have, and i have
done with the malibu hte tape, etc.). use those ways to start your collection.
do not feel that you have to send someone 3 blank tapes for every tape they
make you (roughly 5 or 6 bucks). that's crazy.

just my dime,
susan

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from:         meghan k mcglone <mkmst23+@pitt.edu>
subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 14 nov 1996 - special issue
in-reply-to:  <199611150215.vaa24955@netspace.org>

carolyn...i just got your offer to tape bootlegs. i'm such a newbie it
isn't even funny...don't laugh at us poor helpless newbies. we know we're
sad. but i was wondering if you had color me grey, tuesday's children or
blue food. see, i'm such a poor pathetic newbie that i have no bootlegs.
none. pity me, please. please?!!! anyway...if yuou would be so incredibly
kind and perfect and fabulous and beautiful and just all around swell
(how's that for kissing up) i would be forced to not only give you candy
and pasta recipes, but to make you your own private pasta feats. thanks
you so very much...my email is at the bottom.

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*so afraid to love you,
more afraid to lose
i'm clinging to a past
that doesn't let me choose*

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from:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      boots for blanks

i agree that a ratio of 3:1 is outrageous.  but i don't think trading for
blanks is that big of a deal.  i've sent blanks to people to get started.
they are doing me a favor.  also, sometimes if/when you are a bit
strapped for cash, getting a few blank tapes and helping out a newbie
isn't so bad.

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subject:      hee hee

listen to this, i'll make it short...
i'm walking home from class today
(and i'm in mich., so it's freezing)
and i'm listening to 1200 curfews on
my happy little discman.  pushing the
needle is on, and i've got it blasting
(you can only imagine i'm sure) and
it's at the climatic ending, when amy's
screaming "your body, your body!" and
emily's wailing in the background...
when all of a sudden, my battery light comes
on and thing *&#$@&^ shuts off.
right there...just like that...it shuts off.
i tell, you, i have been feeling off balance
all day now cause of that.
;)
amyc

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subject:      boot offer

hey everyone,

well it's friday and i had an awesome day today so i'm in a really good mood
:d
anyway, just some months ago i was a newbie with no boots.   but now thanks
to the cool people on this list i have a nice collection growing :>

so i am willing to dub blue food, purple parrot and color me grey for sase
and blank type ii tapes for 10 people.  you need to send me a note telling me
what i'm taping since i taping for a whole bunch of things at the moment.  so
for the first ten people who email me i'll send you my address and what
length tapes to send.

let the email race begin :>

peace everyone,
elizabeth

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reply-to:     mike reynolds <io20742@maine.maine.edu>
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from:         mike reynolds <io20742@maine.maine.edu>
subject:      nigc- chesnutt on msnbc this weekend
x-cc:         103161.3515@compuserve.com

john hockenberry will be interviewing vic this weekend. i received this info
this morning in a phone call telling me, among other things, *i* was going
to be asked to be at the studio, and john actually got the tip off from
me...this sucks because i don't even get msnbc...is it on anywhere in
boston..i will taping the message he left me, as my friend matt said when he
heard the message, "you life like, sucks!"
mike r.
who should have gone to nyc...
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in-reply-to:  <pine.hpp.3.95.961115082016.1027a-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

on fri, 15 nov 1996, mrs. dalloway wrote:

> cover me grey
> color me grey

what is the difference?  i had no idea they were two different boots, but
it would explain a lot.  i have two tapes, both called "color me grey,"
but they have different track lists.  can someone please help me out?
which is which?

--bess

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subject:      boots and market forces

  the list's boot policy is set out in the new faq and i hope everyone
stays true to it.  making a profit whether in cash or merchandise is
frowned upon.  a&e have asked us not to, isn't that enough?  besides,
there are always logic.  why in the heck would i give up three tapes
when someone offers me the same product for one tape and a sase?  just
doesn't make sense....

                                -- chris

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      fantasy ig session

--- about a week ago, don wrote:
hey all, i have maybe a new thread.....what song would you like to have
the girls perform just for you.......just you and them in a studio maybe
of dressing room like on 1200 curfews version of thin line.
--- end of quoted material ---

i liiiiike this thread! its a miracle! :-)

for me, it would be, of course, a 12 minute soothing rendition of
melissa....ahh yes, i can hear it now.

and you, little hunnies?

susan

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subject:      re: last years boot dubs
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on fri, 15 nov 1996, the good queen bess wrote:

> on fri, 15 nov 1996, mrs. dalloway wrote:
>
> > cover me grey
> > color me grey
>
> what is the difference?  i had no idea they were two different boots, but
> it would explain a lot.  i have two tapes, both called "color me grey,"
> but they have different track lists.  can someone please help me out?
> which is which?

basically color me grey is a solo tape amy made in the early 1980s.  cover
me grey (the title of which is a pun on color me grey) is a tape made by
list members which includes cover versions of other people's songs, off
early ig boots.

mat

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reply-to:     kristina <andrade@az.com>
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from:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
subject:      trading for blanks

>i agree that a ratio of 3:1 is outrageous.  but i don't think trading for
>blanks is that big of a deal.  i've sent blanks to people to get started.
>they are doing me a favor.  also, sometimes if/when you are a bit
>strapped for cash, getting a few blank tapes and helping out a newbie
>isn't so bad.

ok, this is why i have a problem with trading for blanks. to dub a tape
you stick the tapes in the stereo, push play/record and then play. oh and
you get to hear some good music that you love. there is very little effort
there. to mail the tape you stick the tape in the mailer, stamp on the
supplied correct postage, and put it in your mailbox. i'll admit there is
some effort here walking out to your mailbox but exercise is not a bad
thing.

when i'm dubbing for a tree i usually manage to get 1 or 2 done a day. it
might take me a week or two to get your tape back to you but i'm not
asking for money or blanks (which might as well be money). requesting
blanks is not in the spirit of trading on the ig list. i don't care if
some other list always does it 2:1 or 3:1 or 10:1.  that is irrelevent
here. amy and emily have specifically stated they do not want people to
make a profit from their boots. a maxell type ii tape is worth a couple
bucks. a lot of people dub around 100 boots a year. you can't tell me that
receiving 100+ blank type ii tapes isn't making a tidy little profit for
all your "effort." (by "you" i mean everyone who trades for blanks, not
the person who wrote the above email.)

blah this is just an issue that annoys me because i feel like ig newbies
are being taken advantage of since so many here will dub for no
compensation. when someone asks you to send them money or blanks they are
not doing you a favor, which my dictionary defines as "a gracious,
friendly, or obliging act that is freely granted."

(yeah i hate it when people pull out dictionary definitions as well but
i'm too tired right now to make it sound like i didn't just look that up
for an exact definition).

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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc censorship

hi y'all,
i remember the discussions about censorship on this list, and am not
criticizing anyone's viewpoint.  i'm just passing this along for you to do
what you please with.
peace,
karey

-------forwarded message-------
>>>subject: fwd: please vote and send to friends!!!!!!!!!!!! (fwd)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     a group of neo-nazis are trying to form a newsgroup on
>>>>>>>>>usenet called "rec.music.white-power", so that they can get their
>>>>>>>>>message of hate out to young people using the internet.
>>>>>>>>>newsgroups are public discussions on the internet and their
>>>>>>>>>formation requires enough support from the internet community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>each and every one of us has one vote when it comes
>>>>>>>>>to creating a new usenet group.  i hope you will vote no and
>>>>>>>>>thereby tell these nazis we don't want their stuff on the net.  below
>>>>>>>>>is the procedure, please repost this plea and get the no vote out.  if
>>>>>>>>>you want to see the official call for votes, you can try on
>>>>>>>>>"news.group".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     do not vote twice - that would constitute voting fraud.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     how to vote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     send e-mail (posts to newsgroups are invalid) to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       music-vote@sub-rosa.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    this is an impartial, third party vote taker.
>>>>>>>>>     please check the address before you mail your vote. your mail
>>>>>>>>>     message,  to be accepted by the counting computer,  must
>>>>>>>>>     contain only the following statement with no signature:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        i vote no on rec.music.white-power
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     vote counting is automated.  failure to follow these directions
>>>>>>>>>may mean that your vote does not get counted.  if you do not receive
>>>>>>>>>an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the
>>>>>>>>>votetaker about the problem.  it's your responsibility to make sure
>>>>>>>>>your vote is registered correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     here's what canada's george burdi, of the neo-nazi heritage
>>>>>>>>>front, had to say about this vote, on february 21, on his resistance
>>>>>>>>>mailing list:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   "there is a call for votes coming on rec.music.white-power
>>>>>>>>>   in the next week or so, and you will be notified in a special
>>>>>>>>>   issue of rren exactly what to do.  follow the instructions
>>>>>>>>>  to the letter.  let me be perfectly blunt and state that we   have
>>>>>>>>>  more than enough net-nazis to win this thing handsdown.   but every
>>>>>>>>>  one of you must vote yes!  and just voting    yes means nothing
>>>unless
>>>>>>>>>  you do it properly.  so you have   been forewarned.  the
>>>>>>>>>  instructions are coming to your email  box soon, and they are not
>>>>>>>>>  complicated.  just follow them as told, and we will have a wp music
>>>>>>>>>  newsgroup finally!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if mr. burdi's confidence disturbs you, please give this letter the
>>>widest
>>>>>>>>>possible
>>>>>>>>>distribution, and help us deliver the largest no vote in the history
>>>>>>>>>of the
>>>>>>>>>usenet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>avrum dunsky
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>============================
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----------end of original message----------

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reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: nigc censorship
x-to:         karey@u.washington.edu
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> >>>>>>>>>        i vote ____ on rec.music.white-power

this election took place about 6 months ago (i believe the group
failed).  do not not forward this any futher.

there is a usenet group devoted to the formation and election of new
newsgroups (news.announce.newgroups). things posted in that location
can be taken as true.  be wary of any information that comes from
other sites --- often it is wrong, out of date, or a complete hoax.

a good rule of thumb -- the the post you see has no "kill date" on it
("do not forward after dec. 1, 1996"), don't forward it.  if you go
back to karey's message, you will see there was no date.

if there is something that really calls you to action, take a few
minutes and visit news.announce.newgroups to verify the facts.  find
out the election date and include it in the post.

remember, only you can stop spam!

                                -- chris

p.s.  this isn't meant as a flame.  karey was just passing on
        information which was at one point quite pertinant.  the
        furor over this was in  npr and all the network news.

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc: one small thing about that last post

well, its used to be news.announce.newgroups ....

seriously, that groups still exists, but my newsreader doesn't see any
articles in it for some reason.  sooo.... i'm no longer sure that is
the correct place to go.  if anyone else knows, can you pass on the
info?

                                thanks,

                                   chris

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subject:      choose a boot

dear newbies and others not so new,

as the ig list has been so generous to me and occasionally, i have had
opportunities to give back and it looks like now would be another one of
those times, i would be happy to dub tapes for the first 25 people to
send e-mail. i would be happy to dub up to two tapes per person. the
following is a list of the tapes that i have. if you are interested,
please choose none, one, or two and quickly (as i know this list) send
me an e-mail and i'll send you back my address. the tapes lengths are
already listed, so you just need to make sure that you send a sase with
your tape(s). thanks and look forward to sharing!

purple parrot, 1986 90 min
blood and fire 90 min
nothing to hide 90 min
idigo originals, a compilation of songs by the ig 90 min
newport folk festival 8/96 100 min
new orleans jazz fest 5/96 2-90 min tapes
chapel hill, 1987 90 min
complicated girls 90 min
in with the out crowd 90 min
blue food 90 min
days of wine and roses 90 min

marian
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from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      boots for newbies and other stuff...

hello all in indigo land,

wow, i am amazed with how many new folks there on joining the
list as of late.  welcome to our world!

as far as boots, i am willing to make a limited amount of copies
of these boots/cd's that i have:

ep and more  (from a cd)    90 min
purple parrot               90min
the b band:tuesday's children  90min
amy ray-color me grey with ig at haveford college  100min
live at the dugout '85 and 1985 demo tape  100min

i can make about 10 copies of each for the fist 10 people who email
me saying they are interested.  hope this helps out the folks who
are starting their collections.  we can work out the logistics when
you get in touch with me.


nigc:

if any of you are ani fans out there, she is gracing the cover of ms.
magazine and there is a pretty lengthy article to go with a lot of
great photos.  pick it up if you can.


i also saw buffy st.marie last night at smith college in northampton.
she was great, very powerful and a very nice person.  i had a chance
to meet her and chat for a bit at a post concert reception.  i thanked
her for bmhawk which spurred me on to get aware, active and involved with
native american causes.  very cool evening.


take care and peace!

-deb

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x-to:         oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
in-reply-to:  <35769528@dancer.dartmouth.edu>

if i could have any song sung to me by ig, i would have to say i would
like them to sing "love will come to you"...i always sing it to myself,
and it has saved me from many tears on lonely nights.  it reaffirms hopes
without the pompous and insincere promises i have recieved from friends...

love
aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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subject:      re: trading for blanks
x-to:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.bsf.3.91.961115152309.29230b-100000@anna.az.com>

the only reason i ask for blanks is because i can't afford tapes myself.
if a person sends me tapes, i will record on those tapes, and include the
set lists that i do on the computer, that way they can decorate however.
but after reading you message, i feel guilty.  so, i am again stating that
i will do tapes, for up to 20 people over christmas break.  i will supply
the tapes for as long as i can afford it, and shipping i can get for free
(my boss mails my stuff for me...).  if you have emailed me already, i
will get back to you as soon as the semester is over, i'd just like to
have a little time...so all newbies that emailed me, please be patient!!!
if you can get them for someone else sooner, please write me and let me
know.

aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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from:         susan tomlinson <teddie@telepath.com>
subject:      ig on teeee veeeee?????

hey ya'll!

this was posted on the sony website, and we want to know - what is american journal? how can one find out the schedule? when will ig be on teeee veeeeee? we must know! please help :) here is the post, by (as you can see) heidi at epic

work in high gear for new album

amy and emily have been recording for over a month now, and the songs
are really shaping up! this week they are being joined in the studio by some
guests, including native american trio ulali -- these women make very cool
music. looks like the album will be coming out next march or so. also -
watch for new tv show "american journal" they did a feature on the girls
that is supposed to run this month. have a great thanksgiving everyone.

  11/13/1996 03:11 by heidi at epic

and, for those who are unable to enjoy the wonders of surfdom, some news from the epic website, for anyone who is net-impaired or -disabled :)

* amy and emily were recently presented with plaques by epic records
executives which commemorated their gold albums 1200 curfews and
strange fire and their platinum album swamp ophelia. currently,
they are working on their new album, which should be released sometime
around march of next year.*

yay ig!

peace, love and platinum everything!
susan and jocelyn

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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from:         anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
subject:      iu boot.. and begging

ok.. i know i have not been the quietest newbie
but i have a huge favor and a sad story to tell
(all igc) <g>
ok i had tix for the oct 1994 iu conert in bloomington
i bought the tix the moment i heard about the concert
(and if you know northern indiana.. it wasnt a well
known fact) but the seats i had weren't bad by definition
and who cares right?? i mean i am going!!!
so i get all ready.. lie to a professor at my grad class
tell him i am going to a baptism ( i figure it's a spiritual
event, not a full blown lie) and get in my lil red buici
and drive to iu.. sang all the way down with the tape
deck 'cos i had been to ig concerts before and knew a reproduction
would not do after the concert... get there and well.. this is the
sad part.. ticket master (thereafter called ticket bas*****d) sold
me a ticket for the wrong nite, right venue.. pissed off was not
what i would say i was.. livid more like it
anyway.. here's the begging part... if you were at their concert
that nite you would know that they let some women on stage to sing
be'cos they held a sign that said "let us sing with you!" i knew these
ppl and was even more angry i wasnt with them... i want a boot
of the concert i missed and paid to see (well ticket b****d dealt
with my credit card company the next day, and according to visa t.b.
was well known for sellinh inaccurate tickets)
i know this is lengthy.. but any copy of this concert would
heal this wounded heart of 2 years.. much smooching of
your toes and benevolence from the godess would be to follow

thanks !!! anjeanette (who has been waiting patiently to write this)

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from:         carl <cjmeyer@npcc.net>
subject:      re: trading for blanks

> the only reason i ask for blanks is because i can't afford tapes myself.
> if a person sends me tapes, i will record on those tapes, and include the
> set lists that i do on the computer, that way they can decorate however.
> but after reading you message, i feel guilty.  so, i am again stating
that
> i will do tapes, for up to 20 people over christmas break.  i will supply
> the tapes for as long as i can afford it, and shipping i can get for free
> (my boss mails my stuff for me...).  if you have emailed me already, i
> will get back to you as soon as the semester is over, i'd just like to
> have a little time...so all newbies that emailed me, please be patient!!!
> if you can get them for someone else sooner, please write me and let me
> know.

actually buying the tapes you dub on would be above-and-beyond the call of
duty i think... i'm already amazed by how generous and kind the people on
this list are, but that would just about top it

i think the negative comments were about asking for 2 or 3 blanks in
exchange for a boot... not about simply asking for a blank to dub onto!

reading messages from this list is just pleasant... regular flaming is so
standard everywhere else

much thanks to everyone who is volunteering their time and boots for us
newbies

peace

(ar|

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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      song question...

a friend of mine wrote me, knowing my obsession, his major piece of news was
to tell me that in a department store he heard a song called hazy shade of
winter, then said it was the ig version not the simon and garfunkel version.
i can't believe i have never heard this, or even heard of this!  has anyone
else?
i'm going to see ani tomorrowwww...!!!!
peace, love, tortillas, and hi karmen, welcome to the list :)
katy

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subject:      commonbond's website

you received commonbond's schedule and now i would like to
give you their home page on the world wide web.
(www.intercom.net/local/music/comnbond/comnbond.html)
if indeed you are interested in seeing them (they perform
from all over the east coast) please check
out the web site for a picture and a couple of sound
bites of their music.  i will delete the indigo-girls
address, after this mailing, from our list and if you
want to receive commonbond's schedule please feel free
to send us your e-mail and we will be happy to keep
you up to date.  to those of you who have already responded
and do want to stay on, you have been added.  thank you

robbie morsette
wolfsong management

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subject:      nigc: newbies - chris'

to all you newbies and chris ii

i'm one of the chris' too !!!!!!!!!!! i've been busy doing dubs of the nh
boot and nyc boot for our fellow list members ......

and i'm also of the female persuasion !!!!!!!!

chris # ??????

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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      okay, chris ii, you've convinced me...
in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.95.961114235225.12698p-100000@battlezone.rs.itd.umich.edu>

i, the lone coyote, being only recently a newbie myself, would like to
offer my dubbing services to even newer newbies...blue food, purple parrot
(i really like this but half of the first song on my copy is pretty badly
distorted...so be forewarned...), and my own special offer of honor the
earth--shangrila malibu (with toad the wet sprocket, bonnie raitt & ig--a
good oppportunity for anyone looking for good versions of some of the new
stuff).

there, i've said it, i'd rather dub endless streams of tapes than break my
ankle or sprain my thumb (or whatever chris cursed upon non-dubbers with
time & boots).  first 20, please, then we'll see after that.

=)waiting with baited breath for the posts to start streaming in...

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               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
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                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
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                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
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from:         hudsonvu@aol.com
subject:      disappear fear in nyc - nigc

just saw in this week's village voice that disappear fear will be at the
bottom line (15 w. 4th st., (212) 228-6300) on thursday, dec. 5th, 7:30 &
10:30 - tix are $15.

maureen

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from:         dschulman@aol.com
subject:      re: song question...

dat dere would be those wild & wacky bangles.  i believe it was off a
soundtrack, but i don't remember for what.

oh, & hey, i'm using this post to officially delurk & claim my newbie status.
y'all are way too wonderfully generous & cool.  my boot collection is
growing by leaps & bounds (get it? boots, leaps, bounds?  oh, never mind) in
a 24 hour period.  thanx.  :)

dee

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from:         christy clayton <cgc522@gnn.com>
subject:      re: ig on teeee veeeee?????

>this was posted on the sony website, and we want to know - what is
> american journal? how can one find out the schedule? when will ig
be on
> teeee veeeeee? we must know! please help :) here is the post, by

american journal is this syndicated newsmagazine, fairly
tabloid-ish.  here in va, it comes on about midnight on weeknights
on abc, i believe.  so, even though it maddens me when i read it in
the tv guide:  check your local listings.
the times i've listened to it this month while staying up writing
papers and whatnot, i have not heard the ig.  so that means there's
still hope:)

christy:)
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from:         lorie driscoll <mediamongr@aol.com>
subject:      re: carolyn's boot suggestion

hi guys,

i know jude's organizing a tree, which i'll help with when it happens...but
meanwhile, i'm offering to make tapes for people -- for the usual sase &
right size tape (tdk sa90 or maxell xlii please -- tdk d60s are crap...you'll
be disappointed...other good tapes are ok to send if you know 'bout that
stuff)

ok, so here's what i've got:

tape tree quality tapes:

red light cafe 2/25/96 (malone, seay, saliers, ray each do a few) - 90 min
uno arena, new orleans, la 5/4/96 - 90 min
atlanta pride, 6/30/96 (hash, ig, vld) - 100 min

i've also got all the ones carolyn mentioned.  why?  cuz i got 'em from
carolyn last year : )  write me if you want any or all of those.  i'm
guessing the limit i should set is the 1st 20 people or so.

back to lurking,
ld

in a message dated 96-11-15 22:58:30 est, you write:

<<  date:    fri, 15 nov 1996 05:58:37 -0600
from:    carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
subject: last years boot dubs

seems like there are a lot of folks out there who don't have the purple
parrot, blue food, and color me grey tapes that i dubbed for so many people
on the list last year.  i mailed out 200 copies of each and am not in a
position right now to do that again.  maybe some of you who got them last
year could copy yours for 5 or 10 people?  one person has already done that,
and if everybody chips in it would not be much work for anyone and would
help those who don't have them enjoy the tapes that you have had all this
time.  also, if you post to the list and have them respond to you privately,
we might be able to cut down on the number of posts that are looking for
them.  the same thing goes with the boots from some of the more recent
trees, if you have a little time and can return the favor of dubbing them
for a few people it makes a huge difference in the long run.  we're all in
this together.

thanks and have a good day

carolyn >>

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reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: trading ratio
x-to:         kristina <andrade@az.com>
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2 to 1 is standard albeit not for this list as most will copy for free as
you said 3 to 1 should be locked up

on thu, 14 nov 1996, kristina wrote:

>
> personally, i think 2:1 is outrageous as well (but 3:1 is borderline
> criminal). there are so many people on this list who will copy a show for
> you if you just send them a blank and return postage. there is no reason
> you have to get shows from the small number of people who ask for any
> compensation, whether it be money or extra blanks.

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subject:      re: last years boot dubs
x-to:         carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
in-reply-to:  <2.2.32.19961115115837.0068da38@onramp.net>

yes and you did a wonderfull job at it if i was in a postion to dupe right
now i woudl but as it is i owe one list memeber the jazz fest tapes and
sunny a blank tape and it looks like december before ill have a chance to
get it to them but never fear ill get them to you girls nad when i do
finaly have time ill be on a tape tree

on fri, 15 nov 1996, carolyn wrote:

> seems like there are a lot of folks out there who don't have the purple
> parrot, blue food, and color me grey tapes that i dubbed for so many people
> on the list last year.  i mailed out 200 copies of each and am not in a
> position right now to do that again.  maybe some of you who got them last
> year could copy yours for 5 or 10 people?  one person has already done that,
> and if everybody chips in it would not be much work for anyone and would
> help those who don't have them enjoy the tapes that you have had all this
> time.  also, if you post to the list and have them respond to you privately,
> we might be able to cut down on the number of posts that are looking for
> them.  the same thing goes with the boots from some of the more recent
> trees, if you have a little time and can return the favor of dubbing them
> for a few people it makes a huge difference in the long run.  we're all in
> this together.
>
> thanks and have a good day
>
> carolyn
>
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reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: boots for newbies and other stuff...
x-to:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
in-reply-to:  <199611151617.laa31916@emily.oit.umass.edu>

whats teh deal here my color me grey nad tuesdays children are 60 minute
each both and my purple parrot is 100 minutes(pretty sure id have to
loook) whats wiht the differnt times 100 mintues for the b band ??


on fri, 15 nov 1996, deb odonoghue wrote:

> hello all in indigo land,
>
> wow, i am amazed with how many new folks there on joining the
> list as of late.  welcome to our world!
>
> as far as boots, i am willing to make a limited amount of copies
> of these boots/cd's that i have:
>
> ep and more  (from a cd)    90 min
> purple parrot               90min
> the b band:tuesday's children  90min
> amy ray-color me grey with ig at haveford college  100min
> live at the dugout '85 and 1985 demo tape  100min
>
> i can make about 10 copies of each for the fist 10 people who email
> me saying they are interested.  hope this helps out the folks who
> are starting their collections.  we can work out the logistics when
> you get in touch with me.
>
>
> nigc:
>
> if any of you are ani fans out there, she is gracing the cover of ms.
> magazine and there is a pretty lengthy article to go with a lot of
> great photos.  pick it up if you can.
>
>
> i also saw buffy st.marie last night at smith college in northampton.
> she was great, very powerful and a very nice person.  i had a chance
> to meet her and chat for a bit at a post concert reception.  i thanked
> her for bmhawk which spurred me on to get aware, active and involved with
> native american causes.  very cool evening.
>
>
> take care and peace!
>
> -deb
>
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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 01:31:09 -0500
reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: carolyn's boot suggestion
x-to:         lorie driscoll <mediamongr@aol.com>
in-reply-to:  <961115233932_1082945244@emout12.mail.aol.com>

i need the pride parade i need 2 copies of it<g< can we do this

on fri, 15 nov 1996, lorie driscoll wrote:

> hi guys,
>
> i know jude's organizing a tree, which i'll help with when it happens...but
> meanwhile, i'm offering to make tapes for people -- for the usual sase &
> right size tape (tdk sa90 or maxell xlii please -- tdk d60s are crap...you'll
> be disappointed...other good tapes are ok to send if you know 'bout that
> stuff)
>
> ok, so here's what i've got:
>
> tape tree quality tapes:
>
> red light cafe 2/25/96 (malone, seay, saliers, ray each do a few) - 90 min
> uno arena, new orleans, la 5/4/96 - 90 min
> atlanta pride, 6/30/96 (hash, ig, vld) - 100 min
>
> i've also got all the ones carolyn mentioned.  why?  cuz i got 'em from
> carolyn last year : )  write me if you want any or all of those.  i'm
> guessing the limit i should set is the 1st 20 people or so.
>
> back to lurking,
> ld
>
> in a message dated 96-11-15 22:58:30 est, you write:
>
> <<  date:    fri, 15 nov 1996 05:58:37 -0600
>  from:    carolyn <underdog@onramp.net>
>  subject: last years boot dubs
>
>  seems like there are a lot of folks out there who don't have the purple
>  parrot, blue food, and color me grey tapes that i dubbed for so many people
>  on the list last year.  i mailed out 200 copies of each and am not in a
>  position right now to do that again.  maybe some of you who got them last
>  year could copy yours for 5 or 10 people?  one person has already done that,
>  and if everybody chips in it would not be much work for anyone and would
>  help those who don't have them enjoy the tapes that you have had all this
>  time.  also, if you post to the list and have them respond to you privately,
>  we might be able to cut down on the number of posts that are looking for
>  them.  the same thing goes with the boots from some of the more recent
>  trees, if you have a little time and can return the favor of dubbing them
>  for a few people it makes a huge difference in the long run.  we're all in
>  this together.
>
>  thanks and have a good day
>
>  carolyn >>
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reply-to:     alec <alec@pipeline.com>
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from:         alec <alec@pipeline.com>
subject:      re: color me grey/white dot show
x-to:         verdi@imap2.asu.edu

at 11:18 pm 11/14/96 -0700, verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>  i'd be happy to make a 10 or 15 copies of "color me grey" and  amy's
>white dot show. if anyone is interested just write me back and i'll send
>you my address.


i'd be one of those happy interested folk...  i've had hell organizing with
my dad about using his po box to avoid giving out my real address, so though
i don't count as a total newbie (only partial, i have recieved plenty
o'flames though...), in the bootleg arena, i am pretty stuck...

thanks,

alec

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 02:33:12 -0500
reply-to:     alec <alec@pipeline.com>
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from:         alec <alec@pipeline.com>
subject:      nigc: sorry about the last post,
              i don't wanna get flamed though...

i don't know why that happened, i used the shift key and everything...  i
have no idea...  have a great day y'all,

alec

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reply-to:     gruganu@winternet.com
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from:         rick peterson <gruganu@winternet.com>
subject:      re: boots for newbies and other stuff...
x-to:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>

dear deb;  wow what a nice offer. if i may impose i am dying for the b-band and
live at the dugout. and yes..i am a newbie.  this is a very gracious offer.

thanks so much;
rick peterson
gruganu@winternet.com


    > hello all in indigo land,
    >
    > wow, i am amazed with how many new folks there on joining the
    > list as of late.  welcome to our world!
    >
    > as far as boots, i am willing to make a limited amount of copies
    > of these boots/cd's that i have:
    >
    > ep and more  (from a cd)    90 min
    > purple parrot               90min
    > the b band:tuesday's children  90min
    > amy ray-color me grey with ig at haveford college  100min
    > live at the dugout '85 and 1985 demo tape  100min
    >
    > i can make about 10 copies of each for the fist 10 people who email
    > me saying they are interested.  hope this helps out the folks who
    > are starting their collections.  we can work out the logistics when
    > you get in touch with me.
    >
    >
    > nigc:
    >
    > if any of you are ani fans out there, she is gracing the cover of ms.
    > magazine and there is a pretty lengthy article to go with a lot of
    > great photos.  pick it up if you can.
    >
    >
    > i also saw buffy st.marie last night at smith college in northampton.
    > she was great, very powerful and a very nice person.  i had a chance
    > to meet her and chat for a bit at a post concert reception.  i thanked
    > her for bmhawk which spurred me on to get aware, active and involved with
    > native american causes.  very cool evening.
    >
    >
    > take care and peace!
    >
    > -deb
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date:         fri, 15 nov 1996 12:09:45 -0800
reply-to:     karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      nigc birthdays

november 15
nazman@iastate.edu (naz)
happy 45th!!
all with hope, all with hope
that emptiness brings fullness, that loss of love brings wholeness
to us all

sanawike1@aol.com (sarah weigman)
happy 20th!!
i offer thanks to those before me, that's all i've got to say
maybe you squandered big bucks in your lifetime
now i have to pay


november 16
a-vogt@students.uiuc.edu (amy vogt)
happy 22nd!!
don't you write it down, remember this in your head
don't take a picture, remember this in your heart
don't leave a message, talk to me face to face


november 17
c64136@mizzou1.missouri.edu (angela)
happy 21st!!
so we must love, while these moments are still called today
take part in the pain of this passion play
stretching our youth as we must, until we are ashes to dust,
until time makes history of us.

have an indigo year!


the obligatory side note: does anybody know tracy fears' (sal-ray)
@ddress? the bg has her birthday down, but vaguely recalls her posting
that she had a new @ddress or something... are you even on the list now,
sal-ray?  the bg is confused.  in the same vein, who's got rob augino's
@ddress, and knows his correct birthday?  (as if the bg is not already
busy enough ;d )

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date:         fri, 15 nov 1996 15:14:35 -0400
reply-to:     jess <jcantelo@vmsvax.simmons.edu>
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from:         jess <jcantelo@vmsvax.simmons.edu>
subject:      newbie who is *desperate*

i know that many of you are really swamped, and i totally respect that,
but if there is one kind soul out there.....i'm dying to have blue
food....i don't have any boots but have managed to hear a lot about this
one and i would really like to start out with it...  i don't know what i
could do in return, but i could if i had it be a branch for other
newbies, i am very willing and able so if anyone could find it in their
soul to help me out...i'd love you forever!!!!

love and indigo....

jess

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subject:      my ghost and so papers

hey y'all,
thanks for all your nice responses.  i have no time to copy the papers
from my disk (which is also conveniently at home) to email, so it'll be
monday or tuesday, i think.
everybody have a great weekend!
love,
karey

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date:         fri, 15 nov 1996 17:04:50 -0800
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subject:      re: pitch in!  help a newbie today!
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in-reply-to:  <pine.sol.3.95.961114235225.12698p-100000@battlezone.rs.itd.umich.edu> from "christine talbot" at nov 14,
              96 11:56:58 pm

hi, all,

i'm new on the list myself, but i'm happy to dub some boots for folks,
either by tree or by dub-on-your-blanks method.  i've got just a few via
gifts (hi, carolyn and lisa!) and trades.

here's my list:

    old stuff: (lots of songs that never made the albums)
        b band: tuesday's children
        amy ray: color me grey
        blue food

    misc stuff: (mostly songs you can find on albums)
        history of us
        blood and fire
        in with the out crowd

    new stuff: (some familiar, some new songs that may be on next album)
        red light cafe
        no jazz festival- may 2, 1996 (poor sound quality!)
        no jazz festival- may 4, 1996

i'd also love to trade for purple parrot and any other standard boot i
don't have, or any other cool stuff.

joy,
tom

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 08:57:10 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      nigc - ani on conan this week...

someone sent me email that that goddess herself, ani difranco, will be on
conan o' brien this week. she will be performing live...
three years ago i first saw her (on my b-day 11/18 in fact) for 3 dollars.
now tixs are like 20 to see her in a place that *i* consider too big to see
her at (the orpheum in boston...) but she plays small places in maine
off to boston in less than 3 hours.
mike r.

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 09:03:17 -0500
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      all these tapes trees, awesome...

i just want to say a public thanks to every ssingle person who is dubbing
tapes out for people. i have all the early stuff and i *do* plan on seeding
the study hall tape this week and trying to finish that dar tape tree, but i
found a possibly better recording of the same show. i am swamped, but i
really hope to at least seed these shows, and i only have one of the demo
tour shows, and i usually had the entire tour as fast as anyone...


too busy for my own mental health...


hooray for all those taping shows for other people!!!!
mike r.

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reply-to:     hudsonvu@aol.com
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from:         hudsonvu@aol.com
subject:      re: disappear fear in nyc - nigc

in a message dated 96-11-16 02:22:27 est, alec@pipeline.com (alec) writes:

> what do they play....  are they any good?  i've never heard of them, but
i'm
>  always interested...
>
disappear fear is an acoustic group made up of 2 sisters (one gay, one
straight) - both sing, one also writes all of the songs and plays the
guitar...of course, they're no amy & emily, but they've obviously been
influenced by them and are really pretty good...i've never seen them live,
but if their "live at the bottom line" cd is any indication, they have lots
of energy.

maureen

"and anybody with a heart
would've been alone
but you brought her
and anybody with a brain
would've left you then
but i stayed...i stayed."

    sonia rutstein (disappear fear)

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 08:13:38 -0800
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from:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      re: trading ratio
x-to:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>

mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> 2 to 1 is standard albeit not for this list as most will copy for free as
> you said 3 to 1 should be locked up
>
> on thu, 14 nov 1996, kristina wrote:
>
> >
> > personally, i think 2:1 is outrageous as well (but 3:1 is borderline
> > criminal). there are so many people on this list who will copy a show for
> > you if you just send them a blank and return postage. there is no reason
> > you have to get shows from the small number of people who ask for any
> > compensation, whether it be money or extra blanks.
>
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good point. on some lists and the a.m.bootlegs most people wont just tape
shows for you.  i can see both sides. on one hand, you shouldn't be
making a profit.  on another hand, you aren't really trading for anything
if you just tape the show.  it is very nice to just tape show for people
but think that not all are honest as well. i've sent tapes to people and
gotten burned and most newbies who are just starting out (i don't think)
mind trading 2 blank tapes for a few shows just to get started.

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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      re: carolyn's boot suggestion
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.95.961116013054.26584e-100000@alpha.delta.edu>

on sat, 16 nov 1996, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> i need the pride parade i need 2 copies of it<g< can we do this
>
meant to send this private sorry folks

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from:         anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
subject:      dubbing of mm

and like marianne i will offer my
dubbing abilities of michelle malone's
"for you not them" if anyone is interested...
anjeanette
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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 08:33:22 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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subject:      re: disappear fear in nyc - nigc
x-to:         hudsonvu@aol.com
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> disappear fear is an acoustic group made up of 2 sisters (one gay, one
> straight) - both sing, one also writes all of the songs and plays the
> guitar...of course, they're no amy & emily, but they've obviously been
> influenced by them and are really pretty good...i've never seen them live,
> but if their "live at the bottom line" cd is any indication, they have lots
> of energy.

not sure hw much sonia's songwriting has been directly influenced by ig,
but disappear fear (all lower case) has opened for them a number of times.
for the last couple of years, sonia has toured without cindy, who is at
home being a mom.  they are a good band and well wirth seeing live.  folks
in the boston area will have a chance on dec 7.  if you need details,
let me know.  sonia has been getting more and more electric as well.

                          _________
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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
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subject:      boots for other boots

hi all..

i've been bored lately and i was just wondering if anyone wanted to trade
with me.  i got a decent amount of stuff so if anyone's interested let me
know.

peace
sasha

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subject:      the wood song... challenge

well, my dearest best friend and i were driving the other night and
listening to the wood song.  and we both wondered why emily had called it
the wood song.  then we tried to figure out what else she could have called
it.  and everything we came up with was completely ridiculous, like "that's
where i need to go"  or "if the weather holds".  so i was wondering if
anyone could think of a good title for the wood song besides the wood song.
i couldn't.  okay so i am bored and i want email.  there's lots of snow
today so i can't go out and play....

corinne (marine) y'all are invited to the wedding...  heh heh

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 11:59:11 -0500
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subject:      the one song...
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hmmm...i think i'd have to go with *you and me of the 10,000 wars* or
*ghost*...can't decide....

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*i guess that's how you started
like a pinprick to my heart
but at this point you rush right through me
and i start to drown...*

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from:         galielo <tbranham@richmond.edu>
subject:      re: disappear fear in nyc - nigc

>...i've never seen them live,
>> but if their "live at the bottom line" cd is any indication, they have lots
>> of energy.

amy wrote:
>not sure hw much sonia's songwriting has been directly influenced by ig,
>but disappear fear (all lower case) has opened for them a number of times.


imho, dissapear fear is a great group!!!  their songs are about real life
stuff and they are very blunt.  as for them being compaired to amy and
emily...that is a tough call.  i would have to a gree that ig has had some
influence on them, but they definatly have their own sound.  anyway...if you
haven't heard them, i recomend them highly!!!

ps---it is going to be a great day...ani concert is today...and i am on my
way!!!

everyone have a supergreat day!!

tucker

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because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 12:37:00 -0500
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hey...hazy shade of winter was also covered by the bangles a long time
ago, and could have been mistaken for ig?


aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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subject:      nigc: commonbond

hey you guys ....

just a thought - i saw that robbie (commonbond's manager) posted the tour
dates and web site to the list .... c'mon out and check them out - you won't
be disappointed ... i'll be at the nov. 22nd show in philly @ sister's
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris # ....

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subject:      american journal

thanks for the news...american journal is a daily half hour "news"
show.
i put "news" in quotes because they are kind of a tabloid show.
they
have stories that are supposed to shock you, so it makes me kind of
nervous to hear ig is going to be on.  you can bet they will try to
find
the most exploitive angle on amy and emily possible.

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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      re: trading for blanks
x-to:         benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu
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              "mrs. dalloway" at nov 15, 96 9:34 pm

one of those kind people making boots wrote....

> the only reason i ask for blanks is because i can't afford tapes myself.
> if a person sends me tapes, i will record on those tapes, and include the
> set lists that i do on the computer, that way they can decorate however.
> but after reading you message, i feel guilty.

i think there may be a confusion here.  its perfectly legit to ask for
a blank from your trading partner on which you record the music and
then send it back!  no one is asking the recorder to take a soaking
either =) its not unreasonable to ask $1.50 for shipping or a return
mailer either.  doing 20 tapes, at $1.50 im mailing costs each, that's
$30 and above and beyond the call of duty.

the problem happens when the taper starts amassing tapes over and
above whet they are sending back out.  its making a profit off of
other people's music that is the problem.

don't feel guilty! =)

                -- chris (do we really need numbers?  where
                            is the official 'chris registry' anyway?)


        "fighters for texaco, fighters for power
         fighters for longer turns in the shower."

                        -- moxy fruvous

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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 13:46:46 -0700
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from:         "kristen m. dibone" <kristen@u.arizona.edu>
subject:      if anyone wants these boots

hi...

i was out of town for 2 days, and i got back to a 110 messages, and most
of them were about boots, which is cool.  it wasn't long ago that i had
almost no ig boots, so i
am offering up my list to anyone who wants to
send blanks (1 to 1 ratio + postage, i was unaware that it was done any
other way, and i wouldn't feel comfortable profiting in any way from
a trade) or trade for other boots.  sooooooooo, here is my list.  if you
are interested in any of these tapes, go aheade and email me privately,
and we will see what we can work out.

ig boots:

the ep and more
tuesday's children (b-band tape)
blue flood
purple parrot
little 5 points pub
mesa az 8-26-96
nothing to hide
bumbershoot
in with the out crowd
decatur square ga
duets with michael stipe
woodie guthrie tribute 9-96


-kristen
:)
----------------------

kristen@u.arizona.edu

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subject:      re: disappear fear in nyc - nigc

maureen writes:

> disappear fear is an acoustic group made up of 2 sisters
> (one gay, one
> straight) - both sing, one also writes all of the songs
> and plays the
> guitar...of course, they're no amy & emily, but they've
> obviously been
> influenced by them and are really pretty good...i've never
> seen them live,
> but if their "live at the bottom line" cd is any
> indication, they have lots of energy.

i've seen df thrice, and they are totally high energy.
highest of anyone i've seen live. although right now,
they're in an adjustment. the 2 sisters don't always play
together anymore. sonia (gay, guitar & harmonica player,
singer, songwriter) basically is the band, but her sister
cindy (straight, harmonizer) mostly stopped touring when she
had a baby awhile back. she still records on albums, and she
has been known to show up for a few shows especially in
baltimore-washington area. meanwhile sonia just replaced
most or all of her band, that's the adjustment i meant.
sometimes she plays with them, sometimes without. don't know
which this ny show is. but anyway even if the music wasn't
superb, you would want to go just for all the energy of
sonia. be there, and buy their cds.

dave

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from:         sharon chiar-ling goh <gt6956c@prism.gatech.edu>
subject:      emily @ youth forum
in-reply-to:  <199611160500.aaa21340@netspace.org> from "automatic digest
              processor" at nov 16, 96 00:00:13 am

hey all,

just got back from the first gay and lesbian youth forum in decatur where
emily gave the luntime speech. i didn't have a tape recorder, so here is
some of what she said, at least snippets, i was staring at her too much to
write.

she started her speech by stating the obvious.." my name is emily saliers,
i'm gay, proud and thankful. i started to know i was gay when i was 20,
but before i was homophobic as hell...i didn't realize i was trying to fit
in until i was a junior in college...i noticed i was very drawn to women
on the women's basketball team...my sister's had easter dresses, i had
easter pants...music gives me power, inspiration, it propels my life.."

ok, so i got a little lost in my note taking, but i swear her
talk/discussion was awesome. she thanked her parents and their
understanding for getting through her toughest times, and made it very
clear that she wants to get involved in the gay community, especially
youth.

afterwards, as i was milling around, i heard many people praising emily
for her inteiigence and eloquence. these are people that have never heard
of her or her music, so it gave me a good feeling to know that she made
such an endearing impression. my friend, who also doesn't know ig too much
also commented on her down-to-earthness...that's why i think we all like
ig. their music speaks to us, but their just like the rest of us, real
people.

sharon, who got an autograph and a small conversation.

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subject:      re: choose a boot

dear ig list

i am sorry to announce that  the "choose a boot" offer is closed.

i will run it again in a few months, say once i have been able to tape
everyone's boots and rest my dubbing machine a bit.

thanks for the response and i look forward to receiving your blanks
sending out beautiful boots to those who requested them.

marian
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subject:      boot offer closed

hello everyone,

i'm sorry but i can't take anymore requests for my boot offer at this time.
once i get this batch done i might be able to post to do the offer again in
the future :>

peace and love,
elizabeth

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subject:      map live

hey kind friends...
sorry to do this to all of you, but i accidentlly threw away the message with
the address for map live.  any help is appreciated!
stephen

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subject:      re: trading for blanks
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>                 -- chris (do we really need numbers?  where
>                             is the official 'chris registry' anyway?)

official chris registry, at your service.  actually, i started it all
many moons ago, sorry about the tailspin.  but i kept getting these
really wierd requests meant for folks other than myself.  it took a while
to figure out that they were all chrises (although lately it's been
happening with carolyn--go figure :-/).  so, to avoid mixups, and since
there was only one chris really posting at the time (was that you?) i
started calling myself chris ii, just to avoid the confusion.  it's kinda
neat in an egotistical way, though, to have a stack of numbers behind your
name, doncha think?

oh, shit.  sorry i left the subject as "trading for blanks," but my modem
sucks and now i don't know how to get back up there.

to avoid nigc, definately strange fire for the ig privately in my living
room gig.  y'all want a bootleg?

craaans,
chris ii

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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      nigc-atlanta+ earth day & newbie thanks

hello out there in ig land,

this newbie is most grateful for all of the generous folks who are taping
boots for us.  i love ig and am enjoying the support the list is providing.
these tapes are a bonus i am sharing with my friends on x-mas.  as soon as i
get my tapes and list together i will post it for other newbies. thanks :^)

can anyone who has been to the atlanta area earth day event tell me their
impression of their enjoyment level.  i am wanting a short vacation in april
and considering going to atlanta.  also, do you know if this is on earth day
or is it the weekend before or after in '97.

thanks ever so much
pj

if i have a care in the world i have a gift to bring...es
everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me...ar

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from:         sue molyneaux <sue.molyneaux@sympatico.ca>
subject:      re: trading ratio
x-to:         kristina <andrade@az.com>

kristina wrote:
>
> > 3 to 1 is outragous the normal ratio is 2 to 1
>
> personally, i think 2:1 is outrageous as well (but 3:1 is borderline
> criminal). there are so many people on this list who will copy a show for
> you if you just send them a blank and return postage. there is no reason
> you have to get shows from the small number of people who ask for any
> compensation, whether it be money or extra blanks.

okay... that's 1 tape for the concert. 1 tape to cover the cost of
postage (i live in canada, a tape tothe us, properly packaged and sent
airmail, is between $2-$3) and 1 tape for my time. a tape costs $2.50 or
so, for 60-90 minutes work (even more if it's a 2 hour video tape that
consists of a half dozen different shows). i can't use us stamps, so
"return postage" is a tape. irc's are a ripoff.... you pay $1.00 and i
get to use it for a 52 cent stamp.

you've got to remember, the internet is international... sometimes
american stamps or cash just doesn't cut it.

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subject:      re: trading ratio
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mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> 2 to 1 is standard albeit not for this list as most will copy for free as
> you said 3 to 1 should be locked up

okay folks, i get the message. i withdraw the offer.

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subject:      re: american journal

in a message dated 96-11-16 13:28:52 est,
the entity known as mr. rodney s. wicker writes:

<< i put "news" in quotes because they are kind of a tabloid show.
they
have stories that are supposed to shock you, so it makes me kind of
nervous to hear ig is going to be on.  you can bet they will try to
find
the most exploitive angle on amy and emily possible. >>

no kidding ! sometimes they try to do "warm and fuzzy" things too,
hopefully this will be one of them (you know.... good people doing good
things)...i'm glad to see that they are going to get the national exposure
for hte !!!!!! and with ulali too !
right on !
next they should perform on snl w/ ulali and everywhere else !
i'm seriously considering writng rolling stone to suggest a cover
story on amy, daemon and hte. (but i am a timid forest creature)
i'm going out to buy a tv guide !

binky ( pr wannabe from the peanut gallery :)
(funny whenever i am at my mom's house and aj comes on
...usually right after the news so you think you are still watching
the news.... i say to her (mom)
"mom ! that's not the news, you know." )

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x-to:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.961116083134.17319a-100000@crl9.crl.com>

they're also playing at wolf trap in virginia on february 6th. yes, i
know it's early but tix are already on sale.


peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      amy, emily, my project

hi guys, i'm appologizing in advance for how ling this post will be, but
please bear with me, it's very important!
last year i found a book that changed my life. it's called _am i blue?_ and
it's a compilation of short stories by well-known young adult authors, each
story dealing with the topic of homosexuality. the plots range from coming
out stories to characters dealing with having a gay parent, and the book,
compiled by editor marion dane bauer is, quite simply a miracle. the novel
had such an impact on me that as soon as i finished reading it, i passed it
on to several friends, each of whom loved it as well. my only regret was
that everyone in the world hasn't read it. from the notion that the world
would be a better place if everyone read _am i blue_, a seed of an idea
began to form, and it grew as two friends agreed that it was a shame we
couldn't pass on a copy to everyone who wanted to read it. well, being the
crazy optimist that i am, i thought hey, why not buy tons of copies and
distribute them to people to pass on?! sooo, long story short, wheels in
motion, two friends and i contacted the author/editor, got in touch with the
publisher, and arranged to buy 140 copies! they arrived at my friend's door
last may, we lamenated the corners for protection, taped a message in the
front of each inside cover that said basically, "enjoy the book, when you're
done reading it, sign your name in the cover and pass it on to a friend." my
eternal optimism is telling me that hopefully the books are actually being
passed on a chain that won't stop until the bindings are beyond repair.
140 copies went incredibly fast! i took 20 to camp with me to pass out, and
i got the joy of seeing other people read it and love it, and homophobia at
my camp was slowly but surely worn down over the month i was there! right
now, we're down to 6 copies that i've already arranged to send to people,
and having seen the incredible impact this book has on people, my friends
and i are eager to order another shipment, hopefully even more this time!
unfortunately, we can't drain our bank accounts any further, and we've only
been able to get a few personal donations from friends. so, here's what i've
come to beg of you, my beloved listees!

1) if anybody would like to make a donation, or just offer support, please
get in touch with me. the "am i blue" project has been met with a very
positive response, and so far (knock wood :) we've managed to avoid hate
mail and other nasty homophobic responses. we aren't able to offer tax
deductions yet, but any financial support is *greatly* appreciated!

2) this one is *extremely* important! the crazy optimism that's gotten us
this far is igniting within me once again! having read the post about emily
at the gay youth forum, i'm convinced that she and amy would help us if we
can get in touch with them. we'd like to send them a copy of the book and a
letter explaining our project, but we don't know where to send it to! we
don't see sending anything to management as being a good idea if we're
expecting it to get to them, but otherwise we're out of ideas. so, i send a
heartfelt request to anyone on the list who knows amy or emily personally,
we'd greatly appreciate it if you could either give them a copy of this
post, let them know how to get in touch with me,
(abaroo@execpc.com) or give me any information on how to contact them.

3) this is kinda lame, but we're trying to think of a name for a foundation
if we can set one up and are flat out of ideas. i'm toying with the name
"out of the blue" but would love any other suggestions.

well, if you've read this far, i thank you! this project means a lot to me
and my friends, and i thought the list would be a wonderful place to look
for support. have a wonderful day!

:) abigail


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date:         sat, 16 nov 1996 18:43:15 -0900
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subject:      test i.g's e-mail

does this work???  i just hooked up, and would like to see if this got
through.

thanks!!!

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*\,,/,mystery, assms6@uaa.alaska.edu\,,/, *
*            anchorage, alaska            *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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subject:      emily and fergie lookalike

is it just my imagination, or do emily and the princess of york look alike?
possible thread... emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
partners :d

connie
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> is it just my imagination, or do emily and the princess of york look
alike?
> possible thread... emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
> partners :d
>
> connie


definitely you're imagination...definitely...

- jlh

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subject:      re: american journal
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com

my first post!!!

i just wanna share with you all that the indigo girls will be on "american
journal" sometime this week...

someone posted this bit on the net, and i'd thought i'd share the info...

btw, a very big hug and thank you to all those who have offered to copy
boots for me...you don't how much i appreciate it!!  :)

--sue (who will be glued to the tv this week even though she has a paper due)

t 02:17 pm 11/16/96 -0500, mmedido@aol.com wrote:
>in a message dated 96-11-16 13:28:52 est,
>the entity known as mr. rodney s. wicker writes:
>
><< i put "news" in quotes because they are kind of a tabloid show.
> they
> have stories that are supposed to shock you, so it makes me kind of
> nervous to hear ig is going to be on.  you can bet they will try to
> find
> the most exploitive angle on amy and emily possible. >>
>
>no kidding ! sometimes they try to do "warm and fuzzy" things too,
>hopefully this will be one of them (you know.... good people doing good
>things)...i'm glad to see that they are going to get the national exposure
>for hte !!!!!! and with ulali too !
>right on !
>next they should perform on snl w/ ulali and everywhere else !
>i'm seriously considering writng rolling stone to suggest a cover
>story on amy, daemon and hte. (but i am a timid forest creature)
>i'm going out to buy a tv guide !
>
>binky ( pr wannabe from the peanut gallery :)
>(funny whenever i am at my mom's house and aj comes on
> ...usually right after the news so you think you are still watching
>the news.... i say to her (mom)
>"mom ! that's not the news, you know." )
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in a message dated 96-11-16 23:01:25 est, connie writes:

<<  emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
partners :d >>

amy :   darius rucker

emily : the gatehouse guard at the
            weyerhaeuser complex in cosmopolis, wa

i know this for sure...i'm psychic you know.

love, binky
p.s. is it just me...or does amy sound like a keebler elf on steroids ?
:)
                                 "booger"

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velma doo and amy (when she wears those glasses and without the skirt of
                            course)

note:  "doo" may not necessarily be velma's last name, but since it's
scooby's...well...i thought...maybe...i don't know...

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at 10:54 pm 11/16/96 +1900, connie wrote:
>is it just my imagination, or do emily and the princess of york look alike?
>possible thread... emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
>partners :d
they do... and ya know... if'n amy dyed her hair, she'd look like the
princess of whales and so.... oh my gawd!!!!! do ya think????... now, after
all this time with no answers, the line about the london skyline in tloc
makes sense!!!
( "programmed to live on, cloned endlessly... that's no way to be, in
heaven...")<---sorry:-) a touch o' pat benetar snuck in...
peace all... kim, who is looking at the song "prince of darkness" in a whole
new...uh... light:-) ( can you say "charles", boys and girls...? i bet you
can:-) )
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"halt!!! we are the fashion police!!!
put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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subject:      re-introducing myself and am i blue

hullo indigo-heads

after a few months of no computer access, i am once again on the net. and i
know i owe some people some tapes, and i would really like to send those
tapes along but i have totally lost my old files, which include addresses, etc,
so if i, formerly lbrown9787@aol, formerly issy@eworld, aka larissa owe you
a tape, please email me. also, am i blue is a rad rad book and i think
abigail's project rocks and i hope you'll all support it.

glad to be back

the wood is tired,


larissa

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subject:      re: trading for blanks

>
>                -- chris (do we really need numbers?  where
>                            is the official 'chris registry' anyway?)
>


hee hee,  right there with the "amy registry"...giggles...


peace, love, and susan
        sundara<-- who loves her unqiue name

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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subject:      another boot offer for newbies...

hello everybody
        i know there have been a lot of offers, but just in case someone
is still searching for boots, i'm willling to help.  i can't afford any
trades right now, but if you send me blank tapes and return envelopes, i'll
happily dub for you anything i have.  so the first bunch of
people to write me a happy little email i'll send you my list of boots,

happy day,
jennie


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-my friend lily                               *
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subject:      mm 'for you not them' dubbing

hey hey all,

reading anjeanette's post about copying mm's 'for you not them' i
remembered that this cd is available through the artist for $15.  though i
truly believe in sharing and trading and all that stuff, shouldn't we be
supporting the artists when we can?  it's not like this recording is a
bootleg.  it's a studio album.  i understand that you can't just go out
and buy bootlegs.  i've done a ton of really great trading with people on
the list.  but 'for you not them' is available on a cd that you can
legally buy.  plus, you'd be supporting michelle malone.

you can get 4 michelle cd's:

new experience
christmas in the attic
redemption dream
for you not them

by sending a check or money order to :

sunscream, inc.
p.o. box 3092
decatur, ga  30031

cd's are $15


i copied this info out of an insert that came in my 'for you not them' cd
that i bought when she was here at bumbershoot.


cheers to all and happy trading (bootlegs),

carolyn

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subject:      live at uptown lounge  ?

hey everyone, i haven't been involved much in the list for a while so i'm
not sure if this has ever been discussed.

towards the end of the live at the uptown lounge video, amy and
emily introduce the next
song they are about to play as "walk away" and they make fun of all the
"baby babys..." in the song, but the song that they actually play after
talking about all that is "strange fire."   so what's up with that?

i watched the video lots of times and just recently noticed it.

melissa

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 15 nov 1996

reading all the posts from all you friendly list members has made me feel
like i should be offering something too.  i don't have many boots to offer,
as i'm just starting my collection, but the three i do have i'd be glad to
dub for people.  i'm in canada, too, so if there are any newbies up here in
the great white north that i can help out, i'd be glad to -- but i can do
dubs for members in the states, too.  here's what i have:

blue food
chapel hill
bumbershoot '96

email me privately to let me know if i can help you get started, and i'll
let you know the details.

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subject:      re: live at uptown lounge  ?

melissa asked:

>towards the end of the live at the uptown lounge video, amy and
>emily introduce the next
>song they are about to play as "walk away" and they make fun of all the
>"baby babys..." in the song, but the song that they actually play after
>talking about all that is "strange fire."   so what's up with that?

this seems to be a common misconception.  they are talking about "walk away"
because someone requested it, and i am pretty sure that amy says something
about re-learning it.  i have always taken this as amy responding to the
request by saying that they can't play the song because they don't remember
it well enough.  and they she jokes about if she does do it, she's going to
take some of the "baby baby"s out.

or do i have this all wrong?? :)

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"i don't know what you saw,
i want someone who can see me" - dar williams, "as cool as i am"

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subject:      nigc:  ani is a goddess

goodmorning, goodmorning, goodmorning......!!!!!!!!
and what a fine morning it is might i add.  i find it quite amazing that i'm
awake and this bright and cheery after having returned from the best @#$%*&#
concert of my life only 8 hours ago.  see, i've been awake for over 3 hours
already due to that dreaded sunday morning thing called water polo practice.
at first i was a little hesitant of making what we thought would be a two
and a half hour trip from richmond to harrisonburg and then returning in the
wee hours of the morning.  well, it didn't even take that long, we only used
about a tank of gas, and we even managed to do a little partying after the
show.  unfortunately, my pal tucker (a.k.a. galileo) lost her bank card at
the gas station on the way home.  we hope the money machine ate it.  it was
a long strange trip, but just being able to hear ani for the two and half
hours she played is enough to get me through ten years of sunday morning
water polo practices.  sara lee really kicked on the bass (and of course she
must, since she has only played with the best---a&e).  ani was extremely
candid during the first set.  they let the audience crowd around the stage
to hear/see her.  it was extrememly under controll and the majority of the
crowd stayed seated for most of the concert.  my friends and i had balcony
seats, but during intermission we snuck down to the stage.  being next to
the speakers and having ani's music fill your body and head as she is moving
rythimically to the music drew silence upon the audience as her voice and
palying rose to a frenzy.  i guess the only way to describe her is
"captivating."  i know it's a weak and cheezy word, but i've never seen so
many open mouths and blank stares by the crowd five seconds after jamming
with the music.  i want to add that her outfit totally rocked: tight zebra
pants that were *fuzzy and furry*, boots with steel heals that must have
been six inches high (no joking), and a black top that dispalyed the tatoo
on her chest bone perfectly.  she gave a great show although it was towards
the end of her tour.  she gave an encore and did an amazing rendition of
"both hands."  i give this concert two thumbs up and i think ani deserves a
gold star.  keep on rockin'....!!!!!!

trek

"there's a thin line between pleasing
yourself and somebody else....."

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subject:      nigc:  jill sobule

i just put in my jill sobule cd and realized that i would love to see her if
i could... does any of y'all know if she's playing in the ny area any time?
thanks alot,

alec

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subject:      re: the wood song... challenge
x-to:         corinne simpson <corinne@utah-inter.net>

how about "the journey" or "the weight of love"?

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subject:      nigc-ani-ani-ani!!!

well, treck(a.k.a.  meredith)  just about said it all.  one of our other
friends that was with us said that you know an artist is great when they can
silence the entire auditorium.  that is just what ani did...most of the
time.  when we were not screaming our heads off in praise of her goddess
self!!!

anyway...i have to say it was a great show by a great woman!!!  we stayed
around for some time after the show and screamed for ani to take us with
her, but it seemed that she had already left!:(

by the way...thank you treck for the mention of my bank card!  yes
indeed...the money machine ate it up!!!!

peace all!  have an indigo day(and maybe an ani one as well!)

tucker


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subject:      pretenders and pearl jam (sigc)

hi all
i recently got  2 bootlegs without setlists.  if anyone knows about these
shows, (or knows of someone who may know about the shows), could you please
let me know the setlists? (i'm just a casual fan who isn't familiar with all
the songs)

they are:
pearl jam - nyc 1994 radio broadcast (approx 120 min)    (do you know the
exact date too?)
and
pretenders - symphony space, nyc   11/5/95

also, could an american please tell me when exactly is thanksgiving and
which days will be holidays. (we canadians had ours already in october).

now for igc:
what's with everyone (especially non newbies who should know better)
reposting entire posts as quotes?!?  please don't!  we digest people have to
scroll through these long posts over and over and it is so annoying
especially when some people who do it seem to over and over despite being
asked not to.  read the faq!   (phew, glad to get that out =-d)

and, the song "hazy shade of winter" was by the bangles on the "less than
zero" soundtrack.

have a good monday and week,
lori


"if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."
                                         sheryl crow

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subject:      jennie's boot offer closed

hi everybody

i'm sorry, but i'm dubbing for about as many people as i can get done
before winter break right now, so please no more requests.  but fear not,
i'll re-open the offer in january when i'm here with no work to do(:

happy day,
jennie

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-ani difranco in an interview with ms. magazine                         *
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from:         christine talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>
subject:      saturday night live--guest musician

ok, i'll admit it.   occasionally, when i can't sleep on saturdays, i
watch snl.  so i was watching last night, and somehow i missed who their
guest musician was.  my goodness, she was incredible.  anybody know?

please return mail privately.

love y'all,
chris ii, official registry

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in-reply-to:  <199611172230.raa14281@netspace.org>

hi all,

just wondering if anyone has heard anything about a new kristen hall
release sometime in the nearish future.  i remember a while back when
kristen was answering some questions from list members, and she said she
was currently working on a new album, and i thought she said it should be
out in july or something.  well, the snow's been falling here in boulder,
co, so i know it's past july, and still no kristen release.  is she
still with windham hill and high street records?  i didn't think she
was.  anyone know who will be releasing her newest work?  i can't wait!!

dosvegdonia, (russian, sort of....the spelling is likely way off)

dave

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reply-to:     "edwards, craig" <edwardsc@aodmel.arl.dsto.defence.gov.au>
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from:         "edwards, craig" <edwardsc@aodmel.arl.dsto.defence.gov.au>
subject:      boots in australia?

as a newbie, all of this talk about boots is pretty exciting.  i was just
wondering are there any australian ig fans out there (i know there are) who
have boots that they would be willing to copy for a fellow isolated sole?
e-mail privately please.  thanks so much.

craig (who is this person ?????)

craig.edwards@dsto.defence.gov.au

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 17:46:56 -0500
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subject:      re: trading ratio

sorry to see anyone get taht sort of treatment

would have been easier to understand if you had made it clear that you
weren't even asking for an sase

in that case 2 to 1 makes perfect sense... although asking for a third to
cover your time smacks of profit... your time is what you're
volunteering... although i can't really talk, being a newbie who's never
taped a boot for anyone... and still relying on everyones amazing
generosity 8~)

my .02

peace

(ar|

> >
> > 2 to 1 is standard albeit not for this list as most will copy for free
as
> > you said 3 to 1 should be locked up
>
> okay folks, i get the message. i withdraw the offer.

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 17:55:39 -0500
reply-to:     carl <cjmeyer@npcc.net>
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from:         carl <cjmeyer@npcc.net>
subject:      registration request

alright now... i volunteer to create the amy and chris registries... all
amy's and chris' who wish to post to this list must register with me first.
i will assign them an eight-digit alphanumeric code based on order of
application, date of birth, and hair color.  all posts must be identified
with this code, in order to reduce confusion for the rest of us.... you're
all pretty good at remembering 8 digit alphanumeric codes right?

hmmm, lots of musts.  i might have to get in touch with netspace in order
to enforce this

8~)

peace

(ar|

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 19:05:30 -0500
reply-to:     lori brinkman <lorbrink@iaw.com>
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from:         lori brinkman <lorbrink@iaw.com>
subject:      world cafe, newbie taping and pearl jam

ok. i know more about the pearl jam bootleg that i am still looking for a
set list for.  it was recorded at the fox theater in atlanta sometime in
1994, and is about 2.5 hours long.  i still don't know a lot of the songs.

thanks to all that informed me of american thanksgiving!

i also would like to know if anyone knows the exact date of the world cafe
broadcast a few months ago.

thanks!
lori

p.s. i could tape for 10 or so newbies for blanks to dub on and sase.  email
me and i'll send my list.  offer applies to canada and us. (i live in
canada, but have a mailbox in us).

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subject:      boots, boots, boots!

with all this dubbing-for-newbies going on, i was (sigh!) transported back in
time to when *i* was a newbie, and it was all ponygirl's doing (who is sooo
generous, plus it helped that i had a birthday :) that i could trade at all,
and then some timely boot trees and generous listers...so now i have a nice
collection which i enjoy very much, look at each one personally at night
before going to bed, and sing lullabyes to (not really, y'all, i'm just
tired! :)  sooo, my point (and i do have one :) is that i will make tapes for
people who write to me...let's see, it might be slow but i have the time if
people are patient...and anyone who is interested write to me, i don' t want
to post my boot list here b/c it's kind of long, but i have a lot of good
stuff.  i think so , anyway :)  so...people, write to me, and ask me for
boots, then you can send me a blank and sase and a nice little note and i'll
send you back a tape!  how's that?  i guess i'll have to decline people if
this list is as prolific as i expect it to be...but i'll do as much as i
can...
hey, y'all, i saw ani last night, she rocked so much!  she is so talented.  i
think i want to do an amy and just go to bunches and bunches of her shows.
oh, and i'm absolutely exhausted so anyone i owe mail to, it's coming, i
swear, including you, christy!  :)
thanks y'all...(i need some sleep, i *really* need some sleep!!! :)
katy (the baby tortilla :) :)  :)

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date:         mon, 18 nov 1996 10:12:52 est+10
reply-to:     susanj@journalism.ss.rmit.edu.au
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from:         susan jackel <susanj@journalism.ss.rmit.edu.au>
subject:      re: emily and fergie lookalike

connie

emily is gorgeous - fergie is well - fergie  - um - what were you smoking
(please no flames or new dope threads)  when you thought this :-)

sue


>is it just my imagination, or do emily and the princess of york look alike?
possible thread... emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
partners :d
>connie

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 19:50:02 edt
reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      nigc - ani

ani rocks!!  last night was the first time i had seen her live.  i
would like to thank everone on the list who has ever put an ani quote
in their sig or wrote about her 'cause otherwise i would have never
heard the beautiful music she creates and i wouldn't have been at the
concert last night (where i got to meet katy, indgopony (carrie), and
tucker).  cool.  if you haven't heard ani difranco, you must run, not
walk, to your nearest or favorite music store and buy a cd, any cd,
and listen....

anna

"life as an actor is a bit easier to take
if you admit you're bonkers."  -michael shurtleff

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 18:26:06 -0500
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subject:      collectables for sale

here is a list of collectables currently for sale:

independent ep--excellent condition $275
reverse one cd--$175
club r&r cd--$250
1200 curfews picture--$10
tri-fold rites of passage cd--$50
days of wine & roses cd--$60
austrailian import "touch me fall" cd--$25
new mongrels poster autographed by entire band--$40
back on the bus yall vinyl--$50
austrailian import "4.5"cd--$50
japanese import "indigo girls"cd--$50
austrailiam import "least complicated"cd--$30
power of two single w/ k's choice cd--$10
green vinyl swamp ophelia--$50
the last super poster--$20
closer to fine 12" vinyl--$35
land of canaan + 5 live vinyl--$35
rites of passage picture autographed by amy--$25
deluxe deadicated cd-$75
swamp ophelia stickers--$1
rites of passage world tour itinerary--$15
demo tour itinerary--$15
shades of indigo vinyl--$50
rites of passage promo vinyl--$50

check out our website at:  http://members.aol.com/igboo8/index.html  <a href="
http://members.aol.com/igboo8/index.html">ghost!</a> for pictures of some of
these items.  email us at igboo8@aol.com for availibility.  references
available upon request.

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 20:16:11 -0500
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from:         kristen adkins <gt4403e@prism.gatech.edu>
subject:      re: what's up with kristen hall these days?
x-to:         david ecoff <ecoff@stout.atd.ucar.edu>

: from: david ecoff <ecoff@stout.atd.ucar.edu>
: to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
: subject: what's up with kristen hall these days?
: date: sunday, november 17, 1996 5:43 pm
:
: hi all,
:
: just wondering if anyone has heard anything about a new kristen hall
: release sometime in the nearish future.  i remember a while back when
: kristen was answering some questions from list members, and she said she
: was currently working on a new album, and i thought she said it should be
: out in july or something.  well, the snow's been falling here in boulder,
: co, so i know it's past july, and still no kristen release.  is she
: still with windham hill and high street records?  i didn't think she
: was.  anyone know who will be releasing her newest work?  i can't wait!!
:
: dosvegdonia, (russian, sort of....the spelling is likely way off)
:
: dave


hi! i went to see kristen hall about 2 weeks ago here in atlanta and she
had a bootleg that was released that night.  as of two weeks ago she said
that something new should be out around c'mas or the beginning of next
year.  her bootleg tape (as she calls it) is very good, and it was only
like $10.00.  well worth the price if you like kristen hall.

i have heard that she is not still with windham hill, but i really don't
know.  i hope to hear something else soon also.

~~~~~~
kristen r. adkins                        "i gotta be me
324403 georgia tech station     gotta make sure that i can remember
atlanta ga 30332                        how to be real
gt4403e@prism.gatech.edu         gonna mail myself return to sender."
(404)206-4155                            -"chicago 5 a.m."-kristen hall

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 20:07:06 -0500
reply-to:     andi <ablipman@sas.upenn.edu>
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subject:      my roomate's ig comment

so for everyone who was wondering about my roommate's viral meningitis,
she's better, but she's still very tired, so the doctors thought it would
be best for her to go home for a couple weeks.  she's home now, so it's
very lonely here.  anyway, she just wrote me this in an e-mail, & i thought
it was so funny that i had to share it w/ all of you...

"so since i've been home i've learned two very important things;
ethernet is a gift from god and it just doesn't sound the same to
listen to indigo girls without two people singing along."
-----dana grasso

isn't that the truth!

andi

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subject:      boot offer update

hello to all in the land of indigo!!


just an update on my boot offer, i can only take a few more requests
for these boots, the others are full:

purple parrot  90min
blue food  100min
color me grey and haveford college  100min

if you are interested let me know soon, i will be closing all offers
tomorrow to start the preparation for the massive mailing (over 65
boots going out to newbies).

thanks for all your requests and for all of the patience that will
be needed in the weeks to come.

take care and peace!

-deb

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from:         elisabeth <nussbaum@stolaf.edu>
subject:      nigc- ani
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for all of you ani fans out there... this month in ms. magazine the
cover story is on ani.  it's a really great interview that talks a lot
obout her new album and tour.  so, check it out.

elisabeth

-------------------------------
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nussbaum@stolaf.edu

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reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      note to australians

hey everyone,

in light of all the recent tape discussion, i thought i'd send
a reminder to all the australians on the list that i'm handling
the australian tree for a bunch of tapes, including:
        - new orleans jazz fest, 2 & 4 may '96
        - bumbershoot, 31 august '96
        - honor the earth, 20 sept '96

...and others, it's getting so i can't even remember anymore.
i think i got sunstroke at newport and it's destroyed the
portion of my brain that deals with remembering things. :)

anyway, australians, if you're interested in any of those tapes,
or any others for that matter, drop me a line and we'll work
something out.

still griping at having had to spend $40 for a box of 10xsa60s
and $55 for a box of 10xsa100s on the weekend - tdk is
making a bundle of us australasian types... and yet i still
believe in trading 1:1, go figure,
sherlyn

ps - does anyone out there have any susan werner, cheryl
wheeler or four bitchin' babes boots they want to trade for?
please please please please let me know if you do.  k., are
you ready to trade?

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   "didn't i used to wanna set the world straight,
    or wrestle the demons from inside?
    or sign a signature to something great?
    but lately i'm just in it for the ride..."        - susan werner

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subject:      a message from the president of the "amy ray is god" fan club

hey binky!!!!!

the keebler elves on steroids!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  ohmigod!!!!!!  that is my
sweet amy you are speaking of!!!!!

ugh!!!!  i am mortally wounded!!!!!

quick!!  someone harbor binky!!  she's a fugitive!  a defector of a kind!!!

aghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


karrie, who is still silly, but no longer snowed in!  how i love 50 degree
weather!!  :)

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subject:      dubbing of michelle malone

what is all this?!?!?!?!  okay, so it not often that i get around to reading
list mail, but this topic caught my attention... very rarely does anything
said upset me at all, but what are you people doing?!?!?!?! :0  i don't know
who started this, but i seriously do _not_ think it's a good idea at all to
dub things that can be purchased... i have no problems at all with bootlegs.
none whatsoever.  as long as it's shared and not sold, then who cares, but
this is an actual studio album that is _meant_ for sale, and i have a _big_
problem with the dubbing thing.  this is most definitely still available...
what ever happened to _supporting_ your favourite artists?  no, i am not
angry, though i may come off that way, just a little (or a lot) disappointed,
and i don't think michelle would feel much differently.  maybe whoever
suggested this had no idea that the cd had become available again (it was out
of print for a month or two)... i don't know what the motivation was, but i
would be more than happy to share any information about how to go about
_purchasing_ this cd if anyone's interested, and i'd really like to urge all
of you who are interested in a copy to _buy_ it.  it may seem like a small
thing to you, but it's really important.  flame away if you like... peace,
love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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from:         tom walker <twalker@gac.edu>
subject:      help

i'm not on this list anymore because i could not handle so much mail,
but...i am a relatively new ig listener.  i've always been a 10,000
maniacs and r.e.m. listener and my friends told me i should check them
out because they are so cool, well, they're right.  my primary question
would be, which is emily, which is amy, ie, the blonde, the not
blonde...and which has the the higher crisper voice, and which has the
lower, bit more crackly of sorts voice?  thanks so much.

tom walker
twalker@gac.edu

oh, please email reply to me as i dont receive the list

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 20:28:19 -0800
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: emily and fergie lookalike
x-to:         mmedido@aol.com
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actually, emily's twin is my nursing research prof this quarter.

swear to gawd!  you should see her...it's the only reason i can stay awake
on thursdays, sitting there imagining emily as a nurse researcher...

on sun, 17 nov 1996 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-11-16 23:01:25 est, connie writes:
>
> <<  emily and/or amy and their separated from birth
>  partners :d >>
>
> amy :   darius rucker
>
> emily : the gatehouse guard at the
>             weyerhaeuser complex in cosmopolis, wa
>
> i know this for sure...i'm psychic you know.
>
> love, binky
> p.s. is it just me...or does amy sound like a keebler elf on steroids ?
> :)
>                                  "booger"
>
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subject:      nigc- bryn mawr college

sorry to take up bandwidth, but does anyone go to bryn mawr out there in
indigo land?  i would really like some information on it!

thanks!

karrie

ps.  email me privately at k645501b@edinboro.edu

peace!

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subject:      ani in philadelphia (nigc)

is anyone from the list going to be at the ani show tomorrow at penn?  amy
(queen minerva) & i will be there... :)

andi

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subject:      re: collectables for sale

in a message dated 96-11-17 20:10:02 est, igboo8@aol.com writes:

<< austrailian import "4.5"cd--$50 >>

i bought this at hmv records in nyc not even 6 months ago--for $19!!!

julie
jncalif@aol.com

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subject:      re: collectables for sale
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on sun, 17 nov 1996 jncalif@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 96-11-17 20:10:02 est, igboo8@aol.com writes:
>
> << austrailian import "4.5"cd--$50 >>
>
> i bought this at hmv records in nyc not even 6 months ago--for $19!!!
>
4.5 is available for as little as $16.99 at the major chain such as best
buy, media play, etc.  is the one offered for $50 a special edition (it
would have to be marked as so)?  i believe (correct me if i'm wrong) that
it was only available as an australian import.  if your local record store
orders imports it should be easy to get...sorry, i don't see the point in
selling it for $50, because i'm sure that you (not julie) didn't pay this
much for it...

aim

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and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

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-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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date:         mon, 18 nov 1996 00:41:14 -0500
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subject:      australian 4.5/ani picture page

4.5 was mainly distributed in england. most of the copies you see for sale
are 'from england' though i don't know what they are doing at best buy if
they are imports...but anyway...the australian issue is more rare than
it's english counterpart and is technically a completely different
collectible..but it does have the same cover art and songs and so on. so
if you are buying it for the music..get the cheaper one..but if you are a
collector going for a complete collection (or as close as possible :))
this would be considered a seperate entry in the archive.

for all the ani fans i've seen posting lately, i added a new section to
the homepage about a week or so ago ..the friends of indigo exhibit :)
there is a bit about michelle malone and then a section for ani including
some pictures i took at the folk fest. so if you want a little desert
after eating up a great show..have a look..the address and path are..
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones  - click the ticket to the museum -
then to the friends of indigo exhibit.
also another plug for the collectors mailing list..if you collect..send me
your email..i've had a good run and have been able to fill almost every
want list sent so far...so send your wants and price range or your address
and i'll add you to the list. have a great week
we are fortunate ones,
joe

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 23:03:39 -0700
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subject:      boot offer is ending

hey everybody,

this offer that i posted sat.:
>it wasn't long ago that i had almost no ig boots, so i am offering up my
list to anyone >who wants to send blanks

my offer of my boot list is coming to an end tonight...  sorry.  if you
haven't responded to the offer by now, you missed the boat, so to speak.
(notice subliminal message to wood song :)
i want to be able to get everyone's tapes out quickly, and i have all that
i can handle for now.  i would be happy to get this batch done.  i will
offer my list up again next month for newbies and not-so-newbies.

gotta go dub~

love,
kristen

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>in a message dated 96-11-17 20:10:02 est, igboo8@aol.com writes:
> austrailian import "4.5"cd--$50 >>

>>i bought this at hmv records in nyc not even 6 months ago--for $19!!!
>>jncalif@aol.com

well this julie bought hers at hmv in brisbane, australia for $29.95
australian which worrks out at about $25 usd. i don't know why it's a
collectable, it's not listed as an aussie-only record anywhere in the
sleeve, tmk.

isn't this cd available in the states normally? sometimes cds that are
packaged overseas get sent back to other countries labelled as 'imports'
despite basically being identical.

would someone in australia like to enlighten me on ms malone? i'd love to
know more and maybe get a tape :) hm, what else am i missing out on? $-)

cheerio!
julie
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subject:      trading for blanks

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krayola@ix.netcom.com wrote:
: on a mailing list i am on everybody is have a big debate on whether or
: not it is really trading to do 2:1 trades since, technically you are
: making a profit when you do that and it is not exactly trading.  what do
: the people on here think

        here is my basic understanding of a 2:1 trade.  if you want
        something, but have nothing to offer the other person that
        is of interest, then you send them two tapes, getting one back.
        essentially, i don't think you are losing anything--
        you get one of your tapes back, which acts as a sort of surrogate
        tape that he would have ordinarily supplied in a standard trade,
        and the trader keeps the other tape.  at the time of your
        initial mailing, yes, you are losing tapes, but at the end of
        the trade you wind up with the exact same number you started
        with, and so does he.  it's a roundabout way to do a 1:1 trade.
        he winds up with one, you wind up with one.  it's the interim
        period between "sending the 2" and "getting the 1" that it
        can be perceived as a ripoff.

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it aint that hard. if you were doing a regular trade, each person involved
would end up with one tape. if you do a 2:1 each peron winds up with one
tape...whats the debate?


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i sincerely hope this doesn't turn into one of those discussions where
only stupid people respond. think about it, if you have something i want,
and i have nothing to trade... and you sent me a copy of your tape, you
would be out of a tape, and you'd have nothing new to trade. if i sent you
one tape, and you made me a copy using my tape, u would still be out of
postage, wear and tear on your tape deck,and you'd have nothing to show
for it. but...and this is the good part, if i send you two tapes, you
could make me a copy, and have a tape to show for it, inother words, we
would both get something out of the deal, you might think its christmas
you'd be so happy.but when you think about it, this topic is worthless,
people cxan "charge" five blanks if they had something yuo wanted, and
you'd have no option but to pay it...i rather think its nice....2:1.....

grozier@mindspring.com (greg c. rozier) wrote:
<<>it aint that hard. if you were doing a regular trade, each person
involved
>would end up with one tape. if you do a 2:1 each peron winds up with one
>tape...whats the debate?


<<i'm not saying whether it is right or wrong, but the above statement is
misleading.  sure, each person in a 2:1 trade ends up with one tape.
but:  one person paid for both, the other got one free.>>


i hate you, and you, and you...no, not you...you

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to add to the "mix" this there is also a south african version of this
which is going at 70.00 which would work out at plus minus $14-00. i am
not sure whether this like the british or australian ones what but
it is the cheapest ig cd available here.

virtually yours
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date:         mon, 18 nov 1996 18:34:46 +0800
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@portalinc.com>
subject:      re: nomads indians saints

hello everyone!

in light of the recent discussion on nis, i thought some of you might be
interested to read something that amy said on the very subject. this is from
an interview of them published in _performing songwriter_, march/april 1994:

q: are there any situations where you like the song itself but aren't
satisfied with how the recording came out?

amy: on _nomads*indians*saints_ there's a lot of stuff like that. i felt
like we didn't hardly grow at all on that record. we didn't experiment
enough -- we stuck to a lot of patterns that were similar to the first
album. we were kind of tired and we just didn't do as good of a job as we
should have. i like that record, but it doesn't hold up as well. i think
"world falls" could have been treated a lot differently. to me that song was
really important -- it had a lot more depth -- and for some reason it just
wasn't treated the way it should have been. that's the main song on that
record that i really would have done differently.

i love nis like i do all their stuff, but i think she does have a point.
just my opinion...

and for those old and new listers living in asia or australia (you're quiet
but i know you're out there!), you too can partake of the boot bounty. just
e-mail me or sherlyn, and we'd be happy to help you out.

... emptiness brings fullness ...

anna

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 14:13:05 -0600
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from:         jen hall <jchall@earthlink.net>
subject:      abba - nigc

run - don't walk - to your local vh1 channel...  they are playing "abba -
the movie".  it's 2:00pm central time. not sure how often they're playing
it, but it's on now.

now why can't vh1 play more ig??

running back to watch..
- jen hall

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subject:      radar rose tour dates
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heya all,

  it's been awhile since i've posted radar rose tour dates.. so here are a few..


nov. 24  anastasia appears on wbil tiger 95.9 auburn, al
              new music show 7:00-8:30 pm
nov. 29  lil ireland's, auburn, al
nov. 30  the loft columbus, ga
dec. 6   confeddy's, roanoke, va
dec. 13  aids benefit, ghost of hollywood, roanoke, va
dec. 21 gabby's bluefield wv
dec. 28  the coffee pot, roanoke, va
jan. 18  the loft columbus, ga
jan 24  confeddy's, roanoke, va

  yep yep yep.. they are headed south for a show, that i'm sure is gonna be
a blast, at the loft in columbus, ga... what a way to end the thanksgiving
holidays.. radar rose at one of their favorite venues :)) if you've not seen
this band play yet- go see them.. you will be treated with a night of
rocknroll-lets change the world-passion, with the flair of the flute, the
acoustic guitar, bass.. and drums that are out of this world..

continue to check out their website ::
   http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html

and write them at::
radarose@aol.com


take care,
brooke

          "..my heart commends while my words defend..."
                         -radar rose

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subject:      where's emily?

hey!
i hope i don't step the lines of their personal lives... but i was just
wondering...
does anybody know if emily is in atlanta right now?
an on-line buddy of mine is a cop in decatur, and she said that she was at
emily's house last night.
is she just pulling my leg, or what?

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subject:      (nigc) ani in nashville / beggin' for any boot!

i have been trying to squash this urge to sing the praises of ani over the
list, since it would be nigc, but with the recent discussions i have lost
all self control.

november 12, ani played at 328 in nashville, which is a small club that
brings in performers like shawn colvin, todd rundgren, julia fordham,
marshall crenshaw...needless to say, acts that don't make it to memphis.  i
had never seen ani live, but had become enthralled with "not a pretty girl"
and "dialate,"  so i took two days vacation time, and road-tripped to
nashvegas.

i won't waste time with a play-by-play of the show, it has all been said
before.  i will say, however, that as much as i am amazed by her studio
recordings, i believe that much of what makes ani difranco is lost in the
studio.  the rawness of her performance, and the improvization of her songs
is, imho, what makes her great.

*this brings me to the request of this post.  if any of you have or know
how to get    a recent, rockin' boot, i would be very grateful.  i don't
have a lot to trade, but i'm sure we could work something out.

thanks,
holly

"i owe my life to the people i love"
a.d.

ps - within the past week, i purchased ani's album with utah, and it's
great.  she has set some of his stories and thoughts to music in a totally
ani way, and utah is quite insightful and humorous.  so, check it out.

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subject:      nigc: disappear fear

in a message dated 96-11-16 11:20:58 est, hudssonvu@aol.com wrote:

>disappear fear is an acoustic group made up of 2 sisters (one gay, one
>straight) - both sing, one also writes all of the songs and plays the
>guitar...of course, they're no amy & emily, but they've obviously been
>influenced by them and are really pretty good...i've never seen them live,
>but if their "live at the bottom line" cd is any indication, they have lots
>of energy.

actually, only sonia (the "gay" sister) tours now with a (new) rockin' band
(all male) and their live show is indeed energy packed.  band is more
electric than acoustic, tho sonia did a nice acoustic solo set at the recent
philly show.

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from:         chris papadimitriou <cs942108@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
subject:      re: boots for newbies
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on thu, 14 nov 1996, gwendigo wrote:

> my copies are several gen's old, but if no one else will do it, i will
> offer to copy purple parrot and no curfews for the newbies.  i think these

add blue food, and ship me a copy of no curfews :)

chris.

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subject:      boot offer closed

just to let everyone know, my boot offer is closed.  i have now
close ot 70 tapes to dub, which will take a good few weeks.
thanks for all those who responded.  i will contact you privately
when i send out your tapes.

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      imports

saw a couple of ig imports in a local record store recently and am wondering
if they're good deals... one is "uptown girls" cd which seems to have all
previously recorded and released songs and mostly stuff from live at uptown
lounge video (listed at $25)... the other is "blood and fire" cd which may
not be an import (?) but had older stuff on it and special cuts like american
tune, mona lisa and mad hatters, etc (at $30).  anyone know if these are
decent prices?  thanks,
maria

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subject:      nigc:  ani in boston, where can i get tix?

hello,

sorry for the nigc.  i am trying to get info on how to get tickets
to see ani at the orpheum on fri or sat.  if anyone can point me
in the direction i need to go to buy one, or know of someone trying
to sell one, i don't care where i sit/stand, please let me know.

thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      dar in uk now! (nigc)

in case anyone's interested, dar williams is currently doing a bit of a uk
tour.  on weds 19th and thurs  20th she will be playing at the jazz cafe in
camden, london.  doors 7pm, music 9pm.  tickets 8.50, phone 0171 344 0044.

even if you've never heard any of her stuff, go! you won't be disappointed!

see you there!

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subject:      oh no!  i screwed up!

from the frantic desk of joni......

to all who i am sending a special ;o) boot to:

i thought it was 90 mins, but it's 100 mins!  if you have already sent a 90
min tape, it's ok, i'll buy the right size.

what can i say?  this is my first time.  my bad.....


joni  :>}

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subject:      re: blue food offer closed
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on thu, 14 nov 1996, christine talbot wrote:

> chris ii  (oh, and for the newbies, i'm chris ii because there is another
> chris on this list (hi there, honey!) and when i first joined people kept
> thinking i was him, and i'm a her, so it was really wierd.  i hear there's
> a chris iii out there, but i haven't heard him/her/it post since about
> july.  where are you???  so that's the deal with my sig, in case you
> care...)

there's more than just three of us out there...reduce confusion, eliminate
a few of us chris type peoples :)

as for blue food, i'll make a few copies for some of those people, if
they'd like.  mail for info (err..what am i getting myself into? :)

chris.

/=========================================================================\
|              your actions will follow you full circle round.            |
|                       center stage, indigo girls                        |
|                                                                         |
|              chris papadimitriou, cs942108@ariel.cs.yorku.ca            |
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hey ya'll,

sorry about the nigc, but i remember reading a message about someone's
project where they were distributing a specific book to people because it
was such a great book.  it also said something about donations and stuff.
well i lost the message could someone forward it to me privately.  thanks
for the help.

stacey (who is trying to figure out a way to pass chemistry)

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subject:      i heard ig on the radio!!

this weekend a friend of mine suggested i tune into the local college
npr station for the acoustic cafe show.  she said i would like it.
well, since i was doing physics last night and needed some sort of
sanity to fill the room, i did so.  not much more than three songs
after i tuned in, the dj said that she would be playing ig next!  i
have never, ever heard the girls played on the radio.  nobody's heard
them at home, and the only radio stations here at school play
country. (except for this one, i suppose :)  ahhh...it was even r&j,
which has in recent times become one of my current favorites.

anna

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?"  -jane swan

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subject:      ghost paper

welp, here's the first one, y'all.  hope you enjoy it.
love,
karey


____________________________________________________________________________
karey eals
c lit 421
april 23, 1996
brief paper

ghost
performed by the indigo girls
written by emily saliers

        ghost is emily trying to find her way out from under the memories of a
past love.  whether she is successful is open to interpretation, but by
the end of the song i think she's a little bit closer to her goal.
        the tempo is moderately slow, which sets a reflective, contemplative
tone.  this love is history that's long been over (our adolescent war,
line 2), and she doesn't usually think about it, but there's a letter on
the desktop that i dug out of a drawer (line 1): something came up to
make her remember, and she's caught up in the reminiscing for the moment.

        in the intro and the first verse, things start out small.  it's just
emily and her guitar, and the melody is rather stable, hovering around
the note g.  (i think in the key of c major.)  the words call up the
image of an anonymous nostalgic bedroom: bed, desk, chair, open window,
white curtains billowing, etc.  it's a quiet, restful picture, not
threatening, rather full of peace.  the first place the tune changes is
line 4, where it builds up to c (you come regular like sea-) and then
drops down to e (-sons).  this drop symbolizes the passage of time, as
well as her change of heart, from the intensity of the love to acceptance
that it's over.  also, with these higher notes/change in the melody, this
ghost invades her calm sanctuary, forcing her to go through the memories
once again.  at the end of this line (between the first and second
verses) a string section comes in for a bit, foreshadowing the intensity
to come in the song.
        more nostalgia comes in the second verse.  line 6 brings an image of
being five or six years old, in overalls and bare feet, playing around
with a stick by a creek in the woods, with frogs and bird-sounds around.
but the creek is actually the mighty mississippi.  emily's longing for
childhood, and also suggesting that the simplicity of childlike feelings
could overcome the complexity of her adult obsession.  she's cutting down
the giant of this ghost to something manageable enough to think about.
seeing where the obsession started will help her understand it, which in
turn will lessen its hold.
        line eight's tune is the same as line four's, but it has a different
meaning.  you rush right through is the buildup, and me is low, and a
little quieter.  this person came at her fast, swept her off her feet, so
to speak, and eventually knocked her right over.  me is herself, after
the other one is gone, and she's left alone and grieving.  she feels how
empty her life is now that her love isn't around to make it exciting.
        the chorus is the first time amy (the other half of the indigo girls)
comes in.  it feels like she's lending the strength of her lower, more
substantial voice to emily, to comfort her.  and in verse 3 (lines 13 to
18) she sings don't tell a soul underneath emily's lines 13 and 15, which
allows emily's voice to sound simultaneously higher and quieter,
emphasizing the secrecy.  they repeat this effect on lines 23 and 24,
where emily is ooo-ing up high and amy's voice on unknowing captor...
cuts in to anchor emily like a shackle on her foot.  emily's been
escaping somewhat, feeling free for a minute, but amy's voice reminds her
that she still has to deal with her unfinished feelings: she's still
caught.
        in line 17, amy's voice accents like a lover and like a viper to show
how intense both of these kinds of feelings are for emily.  and after you
sting me like a viper there's a dissonant piano chord, like a sting.
it's also an expression of surprise, like she was grooving along on that
kiss, thinking everything was going beautifully in the relationship, but
then her lover hit her with a slap of reality right out of the blue, and
she was shocked.
        later on, in the bridge section, there are two key changes which add
interest and movement.  they happen in the ornamentation of the words
free and key.  in both cases it's a change from minor to major keys,
unhappier to more resolved tone colors.  on free this is understandable,
as being imprisoned (in the love/obsession) is certainly unpleasant and
freedom would be nice, but it's a cry to be free, not actual freedom, so
the key change is ironic.  the same goes for the movement on key.
however, another way to look at it is that she's just changing in her
outlook of her life and her future, moving from sadness to acceptance
that she's always going to love this person, at least in one corner of
her heart, but she'll be able to move on.
        the climax comes in the next line.  the pain and isolation that
emily is suffering come through sparklingly clearly; her voice almost
breaks.  the only instrumental accompaniment we hear is three lasting
guitar chords (no strings or piano).  also, her voice is louder.  i can
almost see her being crucified--drawn up for this one tense moment while
the spirit passes through her body and then slumped over in relief after
it's gone.
        in the last verse the piano and strings disappear, and we're left with
emily's voice and her guitar again, like at the beginning.  she's come
full circle now, because she's fully caught in this web.  at times in the
song she had been more accepting of her imprisonment, but now she sounds
defeated more than anything.  the gentle guitar melody, underneath line
29, sounds like waves lapping at a sandy shore, so it works as text
painting.
        by the final chorus, emily is wholeheartedly back into the misery: the
rising pitches of the melody sound like wailing here more than anywhere
previously, especially when she lifts her voice up on line 35, when
before that part of the chorus came  back to middle c.  and then she goes
off into those high ooo's, but they're ironic now, not like before.
she's completely caught.
        ultimately, though, ghost gives a hopeful message.  after the last
words finish, the strings fade away, and we hear the guitar with its same line,
but it's accentuated by a strong drumbeat at the beginning of each
measure.  this gives me an image of  a summer thunderstorm: lightning
over an empty plain, maybe a tornado, but it's over.  the thunder hurtles
off into the distance, and the birds and crickets come out of their
hiding places and start making their music again.  the obsession is
lessening somewhat, she's letting go of it, coming back to life herself,
and opening up to new possibilities after a long period of numbness.

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subject:      green vinyl

when i saw ig play in spring of '95, there was a guy peddling green vinly
copies of swamp ophelia, supposedly with a&e's signatures.  does anyone
know about this?  was it bogus?  i've always been curious...

david

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subject:      re: where's emily?

i saw emily at a show saturday night, so, yes, she is in town right now.

----------
> date:    mon, 18 nov 1996 09:28:00 -0500
> from:    atlmouse@aol.com
> subject: where's emily?
>
> hey!
> i hope i don't step the lines of their personal lives... but i was just
> wondering...
> does anybody know if emily is in atlanta right now?
> an on-line buddy of mine is a cop in decatur, and she said that she was
at
> emily's house last night.
> is she just pulling my leg, or what?
>

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subject:      nigc birthday

november 18
asl@gandalf.ucms.maine.edu (michael reynolds)
happy 23rd!!
we talked about our mothers kissing wounds of our fathers
i would've been your sister, i could've been your brother
you kissed me like i was a soldier, headed for war
i'm a dyin' man and i don't know what for...

have an indigo year!

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subject:      i need your imaginative brains!

hey y'all,

i'm in a beginning ceramics class, and our final project is a personal
portrait (doesn't have to be an actual portrait, just something that
represents you--basically, anything!).  i want to do something ig related,
but i can't get any good ideas off the ground.  can anyone help me think
of some creative ceramic sculpture ideas having anything to do with ig?
reply privately unless you really think your answer is amusing enough for
the entire list to enjoy.

thanks!
the lone coyote

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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subject:      boot offer closed...sorry...

hello to all in indigo land!

well, i am sorry to say that my boot offer is now closed.  i really
let it get out of control and now will be taping over 60 boots for
our newest ig boot collectors.  i guess all i can say is please be
patient with me, i am in a little deeper than i had thought.  i will
email each person individually the day i send your tapes out to you.
thanks for helping me share the music.

take care and peace!


-deb

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reply-to:     mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      not list related  but for students everywhere<g>
x-to:         dayna marie birkmeier <dmbirkme@alpha.delta.edu>,
              boudica <boudica@plantaganet.com>,
              domme <domme@mars.superlink.net>,
              katie lee foreman <klforema@alpha.delta.edu>,
              jason hatter <towonder@cris.com>,
              mrs tamarah l kaat <dkze01b@prodigy.com>,
              kevin morin <kevinpm@cris.com>,
              matt in baycity <masada@cris.com>,
              andrew a merz <merzandr@pilot.msu.edu>,
              mary b mills <kmcf82a@prodigy.com>,
              kate orman <korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au>,
              rachel <rachelr@crown.icongrp.com>,
              james paul schmidt <jpschmid@alpha.delta.edu>,
              gerald lee seward <glseward@alpha.delta.edu>,
              sue lemon <drwho@tir.com>, tremere <shadows@cris.com>,
              rogue of the x-men <rogue.x-men@juno.com>

>
>1. useful acronyms
>
>pcmcia     people can't memorize computer industry acronyms
>isdn       it still does nothing
>apple      arrogance produces profit-losing entity
>scsi       system can't see it
>dos        defunct operating system
>basic      bill's attempt to seize industry control
>ibm        i blame microsoft
>dec        do expect cuts
>cd-rom     consumer device, rendered obsolete in months
>os/2       obsolete soon, too
>www        world wide wait
>macintosh  most applications crash; if not, the operating system hangs
>ca         constant aquisitions
>
>
>2. suppose edgar allan poe had used a computer...
>
>once upon a midnight dreary, fingers cramped and vision bleary,
>system manuals piled high and wasted paper on the floor,
>longing for the warmth of bedsheets,
>still i sat there, doing spreadsheets:
>having reached the bottom line,
>i took a floppy from the drawer.
>typing with steady hand, i then invoked the save command
>but got instead a reprimand: it read "abort, retry, ignore"
>
>was this some occult illusion? some maniacal intrusion?
>these were choices solomon himself had never faced before.
>carefully, i weighed the options.
>these three seemed to be the top ones.
>clearly, i must now adopt one:
>choose abort, retry, ignore...
>
>with my fingers pale and trembling
>slowly toward the keyboard bending,
>longing for a happy ending, hoping all would be restored,
>praying for some guarantee
>finally i pressed a key--
>but on the screen what did i see?
>again: "abort, retry, ignore"
>
>i tried to catch the chips off-guard--
>i pressed again, but twice as hard
>luck was just not in the cards.
>i saw what i had seen before.
>now i typed in desperation
>still there came the incantation:
>choose: abort, retry, ignore.
>
>there i sat, distraught, exhausted by my own machine accosted
>getting up i turned away and paced across the office floor.
>and then i saw an awful sight:
>a bold and blinding flash of light--
>
>a ligtning bolt had cut the night and shook me to my core
>i saw the screen collapse and die: no no, my database i cried
>i thought i heard a voice reply,
>"you'll see your data nevermore!
>
>to this day i do not know
>the place where lost data goes
>i bet it goes to heaven where the angels have it stored.
>but as for productivity, well
>i fear that it goes straight to hell
>and that's the tale i have to tell
>your choice: abort, retry, ignore
>
>
>
>enjoy!
>
>elf
>
>
>

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x-to:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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> i'm in a beginning ceramics class, and our final project is a personal
> portrait (doesn't have to be an actual portrait, just something that
> represents you--basically, anything!).  i want to do something ig related,
> but i can't get any good ideas off the ground.  can anyone help me think
> of some creative ceramic sculpture ideas having anything to do with ig?
> reply privately unless you really think your answer is amusing enough for
> the entire list to enjoy.
>
> thanks!
> the lone coyote
>
> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>                 __-----__o
>                /       o \
>               |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
>               (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
>               |     |\    |
>                \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
>                   ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
>                    .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
>                    |\ /|           the last to set it free."
>                    | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
>                   _|    \_/  |
>                  (____)_____/

why not take some advice from your .sig file?

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subject:      oh yeah.....

  i forgot to ask but does anyone have the "these songs revised" tape also./
sorry to bother you nice people again. if i make one more boot plea
within the next forty-eight hours i give you permission to kick me in the
head the next time you see me.
thanks,
ben

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subject:      you must be sick of my boot pleas by now

  is there a kind soul out there who has the demo new haven show
w/m.malone? is so mail me back and i'll give you a list of my boots so we
can trade.
thanks alot!
ben

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subject:      re: emily and fergie lookalike

gwen wrote:

>actually, emily's twin is my nursing research prof this quarter.
>


nope!  i swear my mom and emily were separated at birth. except my mom is
about 10 years older.  but aside from that little biological problem,  i
know mom is actually emily.  hee...

peace, love, and susan
        sundara, the purple princess

"canwehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?cawehaveapooldad?canwehaveapooldad?"

                lisa and bart simpson

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subject:      senior quote

hey all you indigo heads out there!

        i need a little bit of help from you guys.  for my senior yearbook i
have to come up with a quote.  i'm set on using an ig qoute but i'm not
sure which one........there's just so many.  i was wondering if you guys
could give me any ideas that you have for a senior quote that may have
slipped my mind.  the quote should have something to do with the passing
of time, leaving the past, beginning a new journey, friends.....you
know....anything having to do with graduating and moving on.  so if any
of you could help me out and give me some more suggestion than the ones
i thought of, i would appreciate it so much.

thanks!
-jonny
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                                   a+e=ig
                            <><><><><><><><><><><><>

                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

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watershed:

when you're learning to face the path at your pace every choice is worth
your while.

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subject:      re: a message from the president of the "amy ray is god" fan club
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i think the perfect word to describe binky now would be "traitwasor."
anyone else agree?

<g> the lone coyote
(who has been waiting a long time for an excuse to bring that term back
into circulation)  ;]

> the keebler elves on steroids!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  ohmigod!!!!!!  that is my
> sweet amy you are speaking of!!!!!
>
> quick!!  someone harbor binky!!  she's a fugitive!  a defector of a kind!!!

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              "marianne barlow" at nov 18, 96 04:40:33 pm

marianne barlow wrote:
>
> i think the perfect word to describe binky now would be "traitwasor."
> anyone else agree?
>
> <g> the lone coyote
> (who has been waiting a long time for an excuse to bring that term back
> into circulation)  ;]

uhhh.... ya lost me *entirely* on that one . . . %-/

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subject:      re: green vinyl

>date: mon, 18 nov 1996 13:08:46 -0600
>from: david joseph arkush <davida@artsci.wustl.edu>
>to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>subject: green vinyl
>
>when i saw ig play in spring of '95, there was a guy peddling green vinly
>copies of swamp ophelia, supposedly with a&e's signatures.  does anyone
>know about this?  was it bogus?  i've always been curious...
>
>david

david,
i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
this?

we are fortunate ones,
joe

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> david,
> i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
> shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
> this?
>
> we are fortunate ones,
> joe

hey, i remember...and yeah, he was pretty damn cute...in fact, he was so
cute, he managed to weasle the $20 out of me for the green vinyl...and i
still have it...sometimes i wish i'd taken the cute guy though instead
of a silly old record.  hee hee...(write me joe!)

later..
carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

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subject:      ig on radio!

whoa!
so hear i am, plowing through list mail and all of a sudden ig version of
uncle john's band comes on the radio! world cafe is starting off its 3 hour
show with an ig track! this show rocks even more than i realized!

"like the morning sun you come and like the wind you go
  aint no time to hate, barely time to wait
  whoa, oh what i want to know
  where does the time go..."

!!!abigail!!!

ig are on! ig are on!

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subject:      re: green vinyl

>date: mon, 18 nov 1996 13:08:46 -0600
>from: david joseph arkush <davida@artsci.wustl.edu>
>to: multiple recipients of list indigo-girls <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
>subject: green vinyl
>
>when i saw ig play in spring of '95, there was a guy peddling green vinly
>copies of swamp ophelia, supposedly with a&e's signatures.  does anyone
>know about this?  was it bogus?  i've always been curious...
>
>david

>david,
>i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
>shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
>this?

>we are fortunate ones,
>joe

i was on the indigo girl fan club tour in 1994 and this guy was at every show
selling those things and bumming places to stay from people..  i bought one
from him for $85, man did he rip me off.  he was cute though.
peace,
jean

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subject:      i need of help...

hello all....,

my name is scott, i am from anchorage alaska. i am 27 and turn 28 on the
24th, yuck i am getting old.  i have been a indigo fan for almost 8
years, also had the overwhelming pleasur of seeing them in concert up
here last year.  i have had a passion for there lyrics, and a&e's musoc
moved me, and got me through alot.  i have played their music on my
guitar, since the day i fell in love with their music.  i have even
baught 2 more guitars just so i could get the right sound for each
individual song they play.  i died when i saw them in concert, and how
many guitars they had.  what a tallented pair.

well i want to ask you all a favor.  this is my situation, so this may
sound heavy for some of you. i have been watching this listserv for a
week now and really have enjoyed you all and your post's.

ok..... about 9 months ago i began to have some ear problems, and went to
the doctors to find out what was going on.  since then my hearing has
been dropping rapidly, and now has stopped going down for now.  i am at
100 - 110 dbs hearing loss. i have only 15% of my hearing left.  this has
been very tragic for me... and really made a living hell fro me as far as
beeing able to write music any more.  i can not longer enjoy the sound of
the indigo girls that i miss very much!  god this kill's me you all.
what i would like to know, is does any one know if they are planning on
comming back up to alaska?  i would really like to try and meet my
hero's, and see if i could just hear them play one more time...while i
have some of my hearing left.  i would even like to express to them how
much their music meant to me, and to thank them.  if any one know's gosh
let me know.  i will even be in colorado at christmas time, maybe if they
are going to be there i wuld go.

i really hate to dump this on every one.. but i know that there are
people here that share my same love for a&e's music.  any idea's?
thank's for listening.

bye for now all,
scott (in alaska)
assms6@uaa.alaska.edu

p.s.  i currently read lyrics, and have done away with my cd's.. if
anyone maybe has the boot leg lyrics that would be great. i still enjoy
the lyrics...

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subject:      re: green vinyl

on mon, 18 nov 1996 19:41:54 -0500, joe hamilton wrote:

>>when i saw ig play in spring of '95, there was a guy peddling green vinly
>>copies of swamp ophelia, supposedly with a&e's signatures.  does anyone
>>know about this?  was it bogus?  i've always been curious...
>>
>i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
>shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
>this?

hmmmm, actually, i have a copy of the green vinyl swamp ophelia.  i got
mine from a record store so i don't know about this guy, but there are
authentic autographed ones out there.  there's a sticker on the cover and
the b-side has the autographs.

lisa

lisa nordeen
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university of minnesota, morris
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  chance for redemption, she don't believe in the miracle mile."
-amy ray

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subject:      4.5 cd

so, if i own this cd, how do i figure out which version i bought -- uk,
australia, south africa, etc?  is there a simple way?   or is it likely
that, since i'm in canada, i bought the canadian version and it's not an
import at all?  anyone out there know?

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subject:      autographed vinyl

this may be a stupid question, but how can you tell if the one you have is
real or a fake? i bought mine at a record shop and it was unsealed. it came
with the sticker on the front, so i took it as real. the only thing that has
been lingering on me is that there is no drawings that are shown on the
sticker. it's just "emily" and "ar" in red and what appears to be blue pen.
the album isn't green vinyl, it's the regular old dark record.

just wondering. . .any thoughts or info would be greatly appreciated

---jake

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subject:      4.5 cd

   i bought my copy of 4.5 (the australian one) from tower for about $15. if
anyone is looking for this, look in the imports section at tower. :i

peace,
margot

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i suggest dead man's hill

don't you write it down, remeber this in your head
don't take a picture, remeber this in your heart
don't leave a message, talk to me face to face.

hope that helped...

meg
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*you set up your place in my thoughts
moved in and made my thinking crowded*

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hey guys,

     i was just wondering when ig's appearance on "american journal" was
supposed to be.  i tried to look it up in my tv guide but i couldn't
find it.  what time and channel is the program on?

have a great day!!!!!!!

-jonny
                             <><><><><><><><><><><><>
                                    jonny wu
                               wuman@warwick.net
                                    a+e=ig
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                   "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                    something new instead of something old, all
                    you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                    and it's fools gold....."
                                                      - emily saliers


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                                   jonny wu
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                                   a+e=ig
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                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

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hey guys,

        i was just wondering when ig's appearance on "american journal" was
supposed to be.  i tried to look it up in my tv guide but i couldn't
find it.  what time and channel is the program on?

have a great day!!!!!!!

-jonny
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                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

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subject:      re: green vinyl

i got mine from tower records...it was sealed and i paid about $20......

later,
mark

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hey there!
        i don't know where you are at, but out here in california american
journal is on abc at 7:30 every night (or at least every night that it
isn't pre-empted by a basketball game). anyone know when they are scheduled
to be on?

                                        =), sherri


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on mon, 18 nov 1996 jakewalker@aol.com wrote:

> this may be a stupid question, but how can you tell if the one you have is
> real or a fake? i bought mine at a record shop and it was unsealed. it came
> with the sticker on the front, so i took it as real. the only thing that has
> been lingering on me is that there is no drawings that are shown on the
> sticker. it's just "emily" and "ar" in red and what appears to be blue pen.
> the album isn't green vinyl, it's the regular old dark record.
>
> just wondering. . .any thoughts or info would be greatly appreciated

the drawings on the sticker are cute and meant to induce you to buy the
lp. amy and emily aren't going to draw cute little pictures on all 5,000?
autographed copies. i bought mine sealed and that's what the authographs
looked like.

peter a. barta
bartap@bulldog.georgetown.edu


"everything that i believe,             "i want to live as an honest man,
crawls from underneath the streets.      to get all i deserve,
everything i truly love,                 and to give all i can,
comes from somewhere high above."        and to love a young woman
                                         that i don't understand."
                        - amy ray
                                                - suzanne vega

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we are fortuantes ones, i swear"

or

"i drove out of there with no one behind me, feeling funny and free!"

actually, we used these a lot senior year.

kristen


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i post to that newsgroup and you neglected to tell the folks one simple
fact that fact being most folks on here record for you with just you
sending a tape and postage  if y ou have nothing to trade 2 to 1 is the
standard for alt music bootlegs but it isnt the standard for this list
this list is made up of happy folks who will record anyting they have for
you if they have the time and if you send them the tape you want it
recorded on with return postage most bootleggers are not that nice and its
kinda like a business for them hence the differnce  2 for 1 yes you are
making a profit because no one says you have to record ahead of time illl
send you the tape to record on and ill pay my own postage all you have to
do is record it and drop it back  our way your not losing or gaining any
money or anything worth of value and are only losing your time
hugs anthony van pyre

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the debate is this i send you 2 tapes you keep one your making a profit
off me if we trade boot for boot im replacing the tape you sent to me and
yoru replacing the tape i sent to you in a 2 for one you didnt buy the
tape your sendign me your gettign a free one


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subject:      latest finds

this is my trip report for the lake city record/cd show.
it was kind of small, but better than a poke in the eye.  only saw one
other list shirt (hi pj!), but i think there was another ig fan there as
well.  so..... i picked up
cd belloluna - pleasant music for nice people ($3)
cd viva la diva - greatest hits volume 1 ($3 - missing inside liner)
cd catie curtis - 4 track sampler from truth from lies ($3)
cd single k's choice -  me happy ($0.50)
cd k's choice - paradise in me ( $4)
swamp ophelia unopened vinyl limited edition (claiming to have autographs
inside) $11

i saw (but did not buy) another copy of the swamp ophelia lp, reverese 1
(the guy wanted $50), and the live at the uptown boot on cd (which i had
set aside at one of the vendors, but someone else looking for ig bought it
from him before i could get back). he was asking $23.  thanks to this
mystery fan, i left with money in my pocket.  all in all, not bad for a day
in lake city.  does anyone know what the story with the so lp is?  are
there really autographs inside?  i doubt i'll open it, but i am curious.

betsy

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      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
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from:         karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
subject:      so paper--long!

hey y'all,
here's the other.  regarding sharing these, i have to quote they might be
giants here: "i was young and foolish then, i feel old and foolish now."
may and april of this year were not that long ago, but i still feel wierd
about posting these b/c you all have given me lots of insight that i
didn't have then.
anyway, looking forward to comments,
love,
karey


karey eals
c lit 421
may 28, 1996
term paper

swamp ophelia
the indigo girls.  epic cd ek57621 (1994)

a short introduction to the indigo girls
        the indigo girls combine emily saliers' high voice, large range, poetic
songwriting, and guitar virtuosity with amy ray's low, sometimes gravelly
voice, passionate delivery, and spare songwriting to produce searing
harmonies in intensely personal and hopeful songs.  their music tends to
be categorized as folk/rock.  they've won thousands of fans, who tend to
be the more-educated people in a population.  (emily, who is the daughter
of a librarian, writes with a big vocabulary, and not all of the songs
are immediately accessible.)  they cover traditional pop music topics
such as love, death, and politics, but also more unusual subjects such as
reincarnation, memories, literature, fears, and spirituality.  like all
good musicians, the girls make us think about our lives in new ways, and
impart basic, hopeful messages, like "got to learn to respect what we
don't understand/we are fortunate ones..." (from "fugitive," off of swamp
ophelia).
        what hooked me is the way they work together musically.  it's like the
perfect partnership and friendship.  they cooperate impressively with
their harmonies, and each shows off her strength while appreciating the
other.  recently there's been some half-serious debate over whether one
is amy-person or an emily-person, but i honestly can't decide.  although
they're both terrific on their solo songs, it's the synergy that makes it
all work, for me, anyway.
        amy and emily knew each other in grade school, but didn't start making
music together until high school.  they went to emory university in
atlanta, georgia, where, in 1985, they released their first song
(independently) and adopted their name.  in 1986 they released indigo
girls, and 1988 brought strange fire.  epic signed them in 1989, and in
1990 they released nomads*indians*saints, which was nominated for a
grammy, and went gold.  1991's back on the bus, y'all is their first live
album.  it too was grammy nominated and went gold.  in 1992, rites of
passage went platinum, and in 1994, swamp ophelia went gold in six weeks.
swamp ophelia is the latest original album.  in 1995, 1200 curfews, a
two-cd compilation of live performances, was released.  there have also
been two videos, live at the uptown lounge, and watershed: ten years of
underground video.
        emily and amy usually avoid pronouns in their love-songs.  in one part
of live at the uptown lounge, they talk about wanting their music to be
universally accessible.  on the other hand, both have publicly come out
as lesbians, which has inspired many of their fans.  i'm not sure why so
many queer artists tend to avoid pronouns.  in this case, at least, i'm
certain that it isn't internalized homophobia.  this doesn't have any
discernible effect on the qualities of the music, but any profile of the
girls would be remiss without it, because they've been hugely positive
role models by being so publicly out.

swamp ophelia
        in this section i'll talk about the album as a whole, and mention each
song briefly as it relates to the main themes.
        what makes swamp ophelia so interesting is the constant tension between
two poles: alienation, isolation, and solitude on one end, and hope,
partnership, and just basic reaching out to fellow humans on the other.
all of the songs contain both sides of this dichotomy.  except for "power
of two," which is strikingly placed almost in the middle, they show the
negative side -- separation, loneliness -- but the subtext is hope and
togetherness.  i will examine three songs in detail: "power of two,"
"language or the kiss," and "dead man's hill."  "power of two" is
important because of its position and reversal of the form of the rest of
the songs.  "language or the kiss" is mostly sad, emily missing her
family, and you really have to look for the hopeful message.  "dead man's
hill" is amy's recollections of a childhood trauma that took away her
innocence and taught her about shame.
        before i go into more depth with these three, i'll talk briefly about
each song on the album.  here's the list of songs, with their authors:

        1.  fugitive/a. ray
        2.  least complicated/e. saliers
        3.  language or the kiss/e. saliers
        4.  reunion/a. ray
        5.  power of two/e. saliers
        6.  touch me fall/a. ray
        7.  the wood song/e. saliers
        8.  mystery/e. saliers
        9.  dead man's hill/a. ray
        10. fare thee well/e. saliers
        11. this train revised/a. ray

        we all feel isolated sometimes, for both good and bad reasons.  some
solitude is necessary for reflection and composure.  this is exemplified
in "the wood song," which says that no matter how hard life is, you still
have to work through it.  that's the ultimate isolation: existentially
realizing that everyone is fundamentally alone, but it's also the
ultimate strength: realizing that you can depend on yourself.  many other
times, though, we feel alienated from the rest of the world, which is
portrayed in "least complicated," which describes the awkwardness of
adolescence.  "reunion" is about wanting to be alone.  it was written
after amy went to her high school reunion and people who had shunned her
in high school were phonily nice -- "intimate strangers."  "fugitive,"
another powerful, trademark amy song, is about the downside of fame.  she
feels like she's losing her private life, and disappointing her lover
because she doesn't have as much time for her anymore.  (another
interpretation is that she feels like she's losing her real self, having
to hide the "real amy" in order to live her life as it is now.)
        although "fare thee well" is about one of the most sung-about situations
in music, love lost, emily makes it her own, taking isolation one step
further by describing how she felt separate from her lover even when they
were together, because the relationship was so intense, "but you could
only feed upon the things which feed a fire," yet brief: "you were long
gone before i ever got to you, before you blazed past this address."
"mystery" is also in this vein, but it's about a friend, not a lover.
emily feels puzzled about the friendship, not knowing  what will happen,
but wanting to stick with it anyway.
        "touch me fall" is very dreamlike, which makes it a little similar to
the beginning of "language or the kiss."  it has some wistfulness in it,
and amy's certainly alone ("all the sounds i've missed all the years...")
and wishing for companionship ("come with me, now it's not worth it if
you don't"). and finally, "this train revised" is the least individual
song on the album.  amy reworked the gospel hymn "this train is bound for
glory" to apply it to the holocaust ("piss and blood in a railroad car/
100 people, gypsies, queers, and david's star").  although this is about
masses of people, the isolation and fears come through on a individual
level.  then again, this seems deliberately placed at the end of the
album, to universalize the feelings.  this could happen to anyone.

language or the kiss

1 oh....
2 i don't know if it was real or in a dream,
3 lately waking up i'm not sure where i've been.
4 there was a table set for six and five were there,
5 i stood outside and kept my eyes upon that empty chair.
6 there was steam on the window from the kitchen,
7 laughter like a language i once spoke with ease.
8 but i'm made mute by the virtue of decision,
9 i choose most of your life goes on without me.
10 oh, the fear i've known,
11 that i might reap the praise of strangers, and end up on my own.
12 all i've sown was a song.
13 but maybe i was wrong.
14 ah....
15 ah....
16 i said to you, the one gift which i'd adore, unwrap a package of the
next
ten years unfolding,
17 but you told me if i had my way i'd be bored.
18 right then i knew i loved you best born of your scolding.
19 when we last talked we were lying on our backs, looking up at the sky
through the ceiling.
20 i used to lie like that alone out on the driveway, trying to read the
greek upon the stars,
21 the alphabet of feeling.
22 oh, i knew back then, there was a calling that said, if joy then pain.
23 the sound of the voice these years later
24 is still the same.
25 oh....
26 ah....
27 i am alone in a hotel room tonight.
28 i squeeze the sky out by there's not a star appears.
29 begin my studies with this paper and this pencil,
30 and i'm working through the grammar of my fears.
31 oh mercy, what i won't give, to have the things that mean the most not
to
mean the things i miss.
32 unforgiving, the choice still is, the language or the kiss.

        in this section i will examine "language or the kiss" to show how it
fits into the dichotomy of alone vs. together.
        this song is emily struggling with isolation from her family.  i've
heard two interpretations of why she is separated from them, and both
make equal amounts of sense.  one possibility is that "language or the
kiss" is emily's "fugitive" -- she's complaining about fame, and how her
life of making music prevents her from sharing family celebrations.  the
other idea is that the song is about coming out to a homophobic family.
in both cases, the "language" is that of family connections, shared
history, inside jokes, and close relationships.  in the first example,
the "kiss" might be the good parts about fame: making a living doing what
she loves.  not everyone is so lucky.  in the second interpretation, the
"kiss" is more literal: the love of a partner.  maybe there isn't even
anyone specific; it's the potential that's important.  regardless of
which is the correct interpretation (and one of the beauties of the
indigo girls is that there's usually more than one), this song is about
having to live with the painful consequences of a difficult choice.
        this song is a gold-mine of text-painting.  it starts out with piano
music that sensuously blends into emily's guitar playing.  however, the
first chord is jarring, even though there's nothing which has come before
to contrast it with.  the chord is loud and abrupt, like she's waking up
from a dream, as the first line says.  and then there's some humming
before the lyrics start, which is soft and sleepy-sounding, furthering
the dreamlike quality.  the image given is of someone who has suddenly
sat up in bed from a nightmare, then is feeling sleepy again, and
confused because she can't remember what the dream was about.
        emily uses musical devices to illustrate loneliness in several places.
for example, on the first five lines of words she sings by herself.
then, on line 20 her voice is alone again, singing "i used to lie like
that alone out on the driveway."  here the low, exotic sound of the
marimba combined with her solo voice gives off a feeling of darkness and
mystery.  we hear the marimba again on lines 27-30, but this time it's
alone underneath sporadic drums, and they both create a deep sense of
isolation.  the drums are like a heartbeat.  you can only hear your heart
when everything else is quiet, which usually means you're far from
everybody else.
        at other times, emily musically illustrates her wistfulness and longing
to be with her family.  behind the words of line 6, the background singer
hums very quietly, sounding just out of reach: the family life she misses
can be remembered, but not participated in.  then, underneath and after
line nine, the piano gets unusually busy and a little louder,
text-painting the life events that emily, who sings alone for this line
for contrast, is missing.  later on in line 17 there's an unusual tune on
the word "bored," where the background singer sings a progression from g
down to c.  [i think in the key of c major, no matter what key the music
is really in, for convenience.]  this puts more movement in the word than would
normally be text-painted there.  i think it means that even though the
person she's talking to (her mother, maybe?) scolds her and says she'd be
bored, emily still wishes for it.
        the process of dealing with the conflict is illustrated in a few places.
first, on the "oh" of line 22 emily is just wailing over it.  then, on
line 24, she sings the words shortly, almost biting them off.  she sounds
resigned, realizing that she won't be happy no matter what she chooses.
and finally, in the last line, the conflict gets summed up and
re-emphasized: it isn't resolved at all.  the outro calms us, though,
bringing to mind scarlett o'hara's attitude of "i'll think about it
tomorrow."  emily hasn't solved any problems, but she's eased some of her
burden by airing the pain, and sometimes that's all you can do.  the
music illustrates this by resolving in a major key and fading off: she's
going on with her life.
        this has sounded like it's mostly on the alone side of the dichotomy,
and admittedly it is pretty gloomy.  but the family life has to be good
to make emily so nostalgic.  also, she's keeping at least one
relationship (possibly with her mother) whole, as lines 16-19 say.  in
"language or the kiss" the hopeful side really is the subtext.  it's not
painted into the music much at all.  but the process is itself a good
thing.

happiness versus struggle
        in this section i'll explain the purpose of "power of two," and why it
is placed where it is on the album.
        "power of two" provides a needed contrast to the rest of the songs on
swamp ophelia.  as the only "happy" song, it makes the "sad" songs more
real and differentiated.  this is not to say that the "sad" songs are
indeed only sad, and one-dimensional.  this is far from true.  for
example, "least complicated" is a very upbeat, singable song, and its
message is a life lesson.  the reason it can be included in the "sad"
songs is its words, which are about the alienation of adolescence.  but,
as emily says on 1200 curfews as she introduces the song, "you have to
laugh at yourself, because you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't."  here
is where such adages as "life is what happens when you're making other
plans" and "happiness is not a destination, but a method of travel" are
appropriate.  the girls celebrate the pain the process of living, as well
as the joy, knowing that life would be boring and meaningless if you
could be happy all the time.  we don't choose to go through the hard
times, but we come out different on the other side, and that is worth
celebrating.
        "power of two" sits almost in the middle of swamp ophelia to break up
the aloneness of the other songs.  it comes between two dark amy songs
that by themselves would be too similar and unhappy.  "power of two"
accentuates their emotions well.  "reunion" (which comes beforehand)
mentions driving in the beginning, but with a harsh, relentless rhythm
that is the perfect contrast to "power of two"'s image of a nice drive in
the country with your mate (which fits its happier rhythm).

power of two

1 now the parking lot is empty, everyone's gone someplace.
2 i pick you up and in the trunk i've packed a cooler and a two-day
suitcase.
3 'cause there's a place we like to drive, way out in the country,
4 five miles out of the city limit we're singing and your hand's upon my
knee.
chorus
5 so we're okay, we're fine, baby i'm here to stop your cryin'.
6 chase all the ghosts from your head, i'm stronger than the monster
beneath your bed,
7 smarter than the tricks played on your heart,
8 we'll look at them together then we'll take them apart.
9 adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of
two.
10 you know the things that i am afraid of, i'm not afraid to tell.
11 and if we'd ever leave a legacy, it's that we loved each other well.
12 i've seen the shadows of so many people trying on the treasures of
youth
13 a road that fancy and fast ends in a fatal crash, and i'm glad we got
off, to tell you the truth.
chorus
14 'cause we're okay, we're fine, baby i'm here to stop your cryin'.
15 chase all the ghosts from your head, i'm stronger than the monster
beneath your bed,
16 smarter than the tricks played on your heart,
17 we'll look at them together then we'll take them apart.
18 adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power
of two.
bridge
19 all the shiny little trinkets of temptation, something new instead of
something old.
20 (make          new          friends          but          keep
the          old)
21 all you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface, and it's fool's gold.
22 (but          remember          what          is          gold)
23 fool's gold, fool's gold
24 (what is gold, what is gold)

25 and now we're talking about a difficult thing, and your eyes are
getting wet.
26 but i took us for better and i took us for worse, and don't you ever
forget it.
27 the steel bars between me and a promise suddenly bend with ease,
28 and the closer i'm bound in love to you, the closer i am to free.
chorus
29 so we're okay, we're fine, baby i'm here to stop your cryin'.
30 chase all the ghosts from your head, i'm stronger than the monster
beneath your bed,
31 smarter than the tricks played on your heart.
32 we'll look at them together then we'll take 'em apart.
33 adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power
of two.
34 oo....
35 wo, wo, wo, wo....

        in this section i'll examine "power of two" for both its top-layer
meanings and its subtext of aloneness.
        "power of two" has such a light and airy feel, it's surprising that it
has the most lyrics of the three songs i've looked at in detail.  this is
odd because the other two feel so much more serious and heavy.  however,
all three songs communicate an immense amount of feeling; the difference
is in how it is conveyed.
        this happy atmosphere of the song comes through in a momentary laugh
right before the guitar intro.  then, right at the beginning, there's a
short blues-sounding riff that skates into the major-key chords that
comprise the song.  this is the first intimation of the subtext.  it's
about how happy these two are to be together, but the shadow of loss and
loneliness is never far away.  it runs through most of the lyrics, and
intensifies in the first part of the chorus.  looking at the lyrics, with
all of the parts that mention sadness marked, it looks like a pretty
gloomy song.  so the music has to be pretty upbeat to give it buoyancy.
and it is, from the tempo (moderately fast) to the tune (in a major key,
with lots of variation) to the choice of instruments (mandolin, flugel
horn, harmonica).
        in yet another way of reversing the form of the song, the mood is kept
aloft by the music throughout (instead of depending more on the words),
but there are several places where it comes through to the lyrics as
well.  the first verse is mellow and happy, containing no hint of
darkness.  also, the last line of the chorus is pretty happy.  line 11
puts forth a vision of a rosy future.  line 28 is sweet as well,
suggesting that being in love with her mate has brought her life to new
heights of possibility.
        the lyrics that mention the bad side of the dichotomy are much more
abundant.  most of the chorus (the first four lines of it) are comforting
only by virtue of the absence and defeat of nightmares.  also, lines
12-13 refer to a different road they could've taken that would've ended
in tragedy, and apparently did for others.  the bridge talks about false
friendships and relationships that were "shiny" and attractive, but
ultimately unsatisfying, because they weren't the real thing that the
couple have.  it almost sounds like one or both of them cheated but now
they're together again.
        unhappy songs seem to be the girls' forte.  but i would submit that
happiness as a far-off goal is boring and unreachable.  the girls do a
wonderful job of reminding us that life is process and pain, but that
happiness will come again, if only intermittently.

"all skate, now reverse."
        after "power of two," amy says, "all skate, now reverse."  it seems
random at first, like she just threw it in for laughs, but its position
on the album as a whole suggests more.  it comes right after the turning
point, so it's like, 'okay, we had a happy song, but now reverse -- we're
going back to the sadder ones.'


dead man's hill

1 we were down at deadman's hill, smoking vines like cigarettes.
2 looking through the trashy mags, trying to see what's coming next.
3 you told me of crashing cars, older brothers and late night bars.
4 i told you what i feel most, and you kept it like a ghost, forever.
chorus
5 don't you write it down, remember this in your head.
6 don't take a picture, remember this in your heart.
7 don't leave a message, talk to me face to face,
8 talk to me face to face, talk to me face to face.

9 lying on the bright blue jumping mat, dinner bell is ringing.
10 barking dogs and model planes, and the sound of passing trains.
11 we watch for bonfires in the sky, on the beach in july.
12 spin the bottle, steal the kiss, postcards to the one i miss, forever,
13 the one i miss forever.
chorus
14 don't you write it down, remember this in your head.
15 don't take a picture, remember this in your heart.
16 i'll leave a message, when everything comes apart.
17 (talk to me face to face, talk to me face to face, when everything
comes apart)
18 aah-i'll leave a message, when everything comes apart.

19 i remember cats on fire, gasoline a burning spiral
20 standing underneath the night, fighting back with all my might.
21 empty cans and charred remains, find them in the heat of day.
22 on the top of deadman's hill, this is what i know of shame, forever.

        in this section i will discuss the text-painting and so on in "dead
man's hill" in order to fit it into the dichotomy.  first, however, i'll
say a few words about amy's style, since this is the only song by her
that i'm looking at.
        amy songs tend to be simple -- two or three chords repeated a lot, and
melodywise she has a habit of staying on g for whole lines and even
verses, but it works because of the various instrumentations and
harmonies, among other things.  while emily uses bigger words and more
intricate guitar lines, amy goes for the fiery passion, throwing all her
energy into thrashing out her feelings (or else being so spare and
quietly intense that she achieves the same effect).  it is telling that
amy almost always breaks a string during every performance, while emily
has broken "maybe two" [from the interview where they're shooting pool in
a bar, near the beginning of the video "watershed"] total.
        moving right along, we have "dead man's hill."  the melody is rather
simple, and it makes a dichotomy of its own.  by remaining the same
throughout the song (although the chorus is different) it confines all of
the song's events to the same context.  but the tune also, along with the
guitar chord patterns and the ornamentations by other instruments, gives
a sense of movement.  the moderately slow yet driving tempo places the
song in memory, vacillating between pleasant and not-so-pleasant
reminiscences.
        in lines three and four, amy and her friend share important secrets.
the first three words of each of those two lines, "you told me" and "i
told you," parallel each other nicely.  they're both sung on the high
note of a, which conveys the nervousness of telling personal secrets, and
the importance of this sharing, the way it strengthens friendships.  the
separation of "forever" (on that word we hear amy's voice alone) implies
one of those solemn girlhood pacts, sometimes sealed with blood (knowing
amy, almost certainly there was blood involved), promising to be friends
forever, to never forget the moment.
        amy jumps back and forth between having emily sing harmony  ("don't you
write it down," "don't take a picture," and "don't leave a message"), and
singing solo ("remember this in your head," "remember this in your
heart," and "talk to me face to face").  this shows that (in amy's mind)
the former is public, the not-keeping of a secret, strangers peering in
on her private life; while the latter, remembering the moments and
secrets they shared, is a private pleasure, and even an obligation.  on
the three repetitions of "talk to me face to face," amy's and emily's
voices overlap, text-painting that interaction.
        there's some other text-painting that conveys an opposite meaning to the
words.  "lying on" (line 9) parallels "we were down" from the first line
because they both speak of downwardness, but they're sung on a high note.
this seeming incongruity illustrates that while amy and her friend were
physically low in space, for their imaginations, the sky was the limit.
they were soaring far beyond the confines of their lives, their ages,
genders, situations, to other worlds of fantasy.  then right away amy
adds a physical detail for contrast: in the first verse it's the
make-believe cigarettes ("smoking vines like cigarettes"), but in the
second verse it's more obvious: the "dinner bell is ringing" -- a call
back to the immediate physical realm.
        there's also some more usual text-painting in line 11, which recalls a
fourth of july celebration ("bonfires in the sky" is fireworks).  the
melodica plays a line that sounds like a traditional military bugle solo,
which alludes to patriotic sentiments.  and in line 19, amy sounds
breathless, like it's painful to dredge up this memory.  the guitars and
synthesizer come back in line 20, and the intensity paints the text --
"fighting back with all my might."  then at the end we get the isolated
"forever" again.  the song has taken place in amy's memory, but the final
chord comes in the middle of the word, and we're left with amy's voice
solo, echoing back to the present.
        "dead man's hill" fits into the dichotomy because while there's the
obvious horror of the last verse (amy has said that that was when she
felt most alone and shameful), it's contextualized in amy's growing-up
period, and her memories of her best friend.  that friendship teetered on
the brink of adolescence, the last piece of innocent togetherness before
they had to grow up and deal with teenage troubles that would draw them
apart.


conclusion
        as we have seen, swamp ophelia both musically and lyrically elucidates
the dichotomy between detachment and connection.  the album is
deliberately constructed so that all of the songs fit the pattern, and so
they form sub-patterns internally ("reunion" to "power of two").  the
indigo girls demonstrate that life is in the mundane, and that the search
for the sublime, love, has meaning as well as love itself.

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 17:43:20 -0700
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subject:      cmg offer closed

whew! i never knew there were so many of you out there. so, if you didn't
make the cut-off please feel free to mail me in a month or so and i'll be
happy to make a copy of cmg for you:) for those who did just remember to
send a sase and a 90 minute blank. i should have those tapes out to you
before december.
ben
ps- i just got back from my brothers wedding and i was wondering - can
you registar at rdr(kidding:)

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date:         sun, 17 nov 1996 17:34:32 -0800
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      re: the wood song... challenge
in-reply-to:  <3.0.32.19961116095945.006bf094@utah-inter.net>

how about, "vista point"?

hee hee hee hee (i crack myself up, can you tell?)
the lone coyote
(minus my .sig because when i include previous posts, the .sig appears
first, and i want it at the end!  anyone else have pine who knows how to
make my .sig appear at the end of everything when i forward stuff or
include original message?)
ta-ta

on sat, 16 nov 1996, corinne simpson wrote:

> well, my dearest best friend and i were driving the other night and
> listening to the wood song.  and we both wondered why emily had called it
> the wood song.  then we tried to figure out what else she could have called
> it.  and everything we came up with was completely ridiculous, like "that's
> where i need to go"  or "if the weather holds".  so i was wondering if
> anyone could think of a good title for the wood song besides the wood song.
>  i couldn't.  okay so i am bored and i want email.  there's lots of snow
> today so i can't go out and play....
>
> corinne (marine) y'all are invited to the wedding...  heh heh
>
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from:         renee l grebe <grebe+@cmu.edu>
subject:      re: collectables for sale
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in my opinion, most of these things are way overpriced.


i.e. i got my reverse one live for $45.
     i got my shades of indigo vinyl for $10.


think hard before you really purchase this stuff, even
if you do want it very badly!!!!!!

renee

* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

"the same sun that warms your heart    "the beautiful ladies walk right by
will suck the good earth dry..."       ya know i never know what to say!"
       "get out the map"                       "shame on you"
        by emily saliers                        by amy ray

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subject:      re: green vinyl
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on mon, 18 nov 1996, david joseph arkush wrote:

> when i saw ig play in spring of '95, there was a guy peddling green vinly
> copies of swamp ophelia, supposedly with a&e's signatures.  does anyone
> know about this?  was it bogus?  i've always been curious...
>
that guy was joe hamilton (i think), and he was quite legit. i bought one
of the green vinyls from him (hi joe).

joe travelled around with the girls for a while. he's got a web site out
there with pics and info and stuff. sounds like a _great_ way to spend
part of your life, travelling with great musicians!

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subject:      re: autographed vinyl

peter a. barta said:

>the drawings on the sticker are cute and meant to induce you to buy the
>lp. amy and emily aren't going to draw cute little pictures on all 5,000?
>autographed copies. i bought mine sealed and that's what the authographs
>looked like.

actually, they did draw on some of them (i would guess the earlier ones).
my black one has a big blue mess of a drawing.  :-)  my green one has just
the signatures.  both have serious bleed-through from other labels.  (the
consensus way back when was that they were stacked when they signed them, i
think.)

:dwayne

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"i don't know what you saw,
i want someone who can see me" - dar williams, "as cool as i am"

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subject:      re: collectables for sale

in a message dated 96-11-19 07:40:15 est, you write:

<< in my opinion, most of these things are way overpriced.

i.e. i got my reverse one live for $45.
      i got my shades of indigo vinyl for $10.

think hard before you really purchase this stuff, even
if you do want it very badly!!!!!!

renee >>

when did you buy these and where could i find them at this price?  i know
with the indigo girls things increase in value everyday and that the reverse1
is extremely rare but i don't think you can guarentee that i could find these
again at the same price you paid.       i paid $10 for the independent ep (i
think it might be worth more now.)

my opinion,
suzie

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subject:      is the list still around?

dangit.  is it just me, or is no one posting today?
i can't tell if i've been booted off again or if people are just being
tired...  hey, wait...  is today that "don't touch anything electrical
day"?  shit....

-mandy

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      so vinyl signed

--- joe wrote:
david,
i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
this?
--- end of quoted material ---
actually, some of you may remember last year (i know alan does...hey alan!)
when i snapped up six copies of so vinyl from a boulder record store and sold
them over the list at cost. the sticker on the outside said "limited edition:
signed by the indigo girls" and sure enough they were, and two of the six were
on green vinyl (mine was black, alas). so i think the signed vinyl part is
legit.

susan, who is mentally*still* in boulder :)

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from:         mrbcom@aol.com
subject:      indigo christmas cd

greetings all,

over the last few years i've been hinting to
amy and emily the idea of a x-mass album.
the proceeds of which would go to a yet to be
determined childrens charity.

my plea to the list is if anyone can think of
christmas songs that would be well suited
to the girls harmonies please email me privately.
these can be traditional tunes or simply festive sing-a-long
selections.  i'm shooting for a various holiday mix.

if you have copies of original artists recordings of
any specific tune you could dub or possibly have sheet
music you can copy for any songs you have in mind please
let me know.  i will supply blanks and postage or xerox charges.

any help and suggestions you can give in this little endeavor
would be greatly appreciated.

thanks again and please respond to private mail so as not to
clog the list up more than necessary.

michael  :-)

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from:         "mrs. dalloway" <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
subject:      offer for boots closed for now...

hello everyone that responded to my offer...i just wanted to let you know
it will probably take about a week to get everyone compiled, and then i
will email you back privately and ask once more what ones you want, what i
need from you, etc.  so hang on tight, and i'll get back to you!!
aim


###############################################################################


"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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subject:      nigc-  susanna marine???are ya there??

hey guys:

sorry to waste bandwidth, but ........

hey susan, can you email me?  thanks!

love-

karrie

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from:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      trade

i'm writing to submit a taping offer to the members of the list.  i know
lots of people are interested in my lisner auditorium show (set
list: strange fire, make it easier, southland in the springtime, hand me
downs, prince of darkness, nashville, itsy bitsy spider, crazy game,
pushing the needle too far, you and me of the 10,000 wars (cut) happy
birthday, land of canaan, world falls, play it again sam, keeper of my
heart, closer to fine, kid fears*, summertime*, hey you**, get
together{*w/michael stipe, ** w/woody harrelson}) this is in washington
dc on earthdy 1990.  this offer goes to the first 25 people who respond.
the conditions are that you have to send either a blank tape and sase or
a boot of your choice.  i don't really care what shows. but, you have to
have the tape in the mail by monday.  the reason i ask this is that i am
going home until december third and want to send these out from there.
also, if i have not recieved 25 offers by thursday, i will email a
confirmation, then the offer is closed.  that is when i am going home.  i
apologize if this sounds weird or harsh.
staci

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reply-to:     sunny <sun@swcp.com>
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from:         sunny <sun@swcp.com>
subject:      american journal

hey y'all,

  i can't find american journal in my local tv listings (i live in new
mexico).  if someone would video tape the ig segment i would love to trade
for it.  i have about 28 ig videos (some of them are 6 hours long).  i'd
really like to get this one.  (and ani difranco on conan o'brian)


                        --sunny

ps.  for those of you dying for ig boot video, please be patient....my
video compilation tape called  on the road to austin  is almost finished.
i am setting up a video tree and y'all can get copies.  i'm too overwhelmed
at this point to do more.  thanks.

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subject:      concerning my trade offer--please read

i just found out last night that my grandmother is 74 lbs. and has fluid
in her lungs and doesn't want to eat.  she is 89 and has been hoping to
die for a long time now.  so, i am going home and want something to do to
get through the waiting.  so, i don't really care what tapes i recieve.
i'm attaching my list so far. and you can also send a blank w/sase.
also, if you have two minutes, please close your eyes and wish/pray that
bernice rosen is peaceful and not suffering. my friends have been praying
to help ease the pain of the pneumonia.  i would really appreciate it.
thank you.

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subject:      ig on the radio

last night around 7:20pm, after my workout i got in the car and turned the
key only to hear love will come to you, assuming of course that it was my
tape.  but no,....i was playing so on the way to the y.   lo and behold,
the mountain was playing the perfect album side (something they made up)
and i heard the tail end of it.  apparently they played joking, least
complicated, closer to fine, live galileo and love will come to you.  the
dj said he was only going to play four song, but some listener called in to
request lwcty and he played it (i kid you not). simply amazing !

betsy

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

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indigo girls

bumbershoot boot, seattle, wa, 8/31/96

reunion, least complicated, don't give that girl a gun, prince of

darkness, get out the map, cut it out, leeds, tried to be true, kid

fears, hey kind friend, it's alright, the wood song, winthrop,

chickenman, galileo, shame on you, closer to fine

in with the out crowd (cd) 6/95 & 11/94

fugitive, galileo, hammer and a nail, this train, least complicated,

ghost, chickenman, kid fears, closer to fine, bury my heart at wounded

knee, power of two, closer to fine, three hits, cortez the killer

blood and fire 8/21,8/22,8/23/93

closer to fine, land of caanan, ghost, chickenman, watershed, galileo,

all along the watchtower, american tune, get together, hammer and a nail,

virginia woolf, pushing the needle too far, prince of darkness, kid

fears, mona lisaa and mad hatters

lisner auditorium, washington dc 4/22/90

strange fire, make it easier, southland in the springtime, hand me downs,

prince of darkness, nashville, itsy bitsy spider, crazy game, pushing the

needle too far, you & me of the 10,000 wars, happy birthday, land of

caanan, world falls, play it again sam, keeper of my heart, closer to

fine, kid fears (w/michael stipe), summertime (w/stipe), hey you (w/woody

harrelson), get together

paula cole

live at the troubador 10/22/96

happy home, throwing stones, mississippi, bethlehem, tiget, hush hush

hush, feelin' love, where have all the cowboys gone?, i am so ordinary,

hitler's brothers, watch the woman's hands, i don't want to wait, jolene


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from:         pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
organization: pooh inc
subject:      melissa evans : nigc but shes great

i just today received a tape in the mail from an australian artist,
melissa evans. who will be doing a tour in the states this next year..she
is wonderful.
if you can cathch her at all..run ,don"t walk..
if you're at all interested , you can e-mail me privately and i can tell
you how to get a listen (  unless c. wical wants to post.hint hint!).
really should give her some support..
pooh

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      american journal

someone was asking what time american journal ("a.j.") came on.  i think the
show is syndicated, so the time it airs depends on the station carrying it.
here in nashville, it comes on at 11:30 a.m., whereas, at my parents' home in
kentucky, it comes on at 5:00 p.m.  btw, ig are not on today...just a lot of
stuff about michael jackson and o.j. (ugh!)  maybe tomorrow...

peace and happy viewing,

joan :)

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organization: pooh inc
subject:      bumpershoot

so i got my copy of the show.. i know this may have been
discussed before but i didn't pay attention cause i didn't know what you
all were talking about..
now i'm asking..who is that screaching girl and what in heavens name is
happening to her?????is she ok??????

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subject:      nigc:  ani in boston on sat, i need help!!!!

sorry for the nigc:

i was sure that i could get 1 ticket to saturdays ani show at the
orpheum in boston cause their recording said they had obstructed
view seats left, but now they don't and i made plans with a friend
i haven't seen for a long time to go with her.  i tried calling
some ticket agents but they want $50 to $65 for 1 ticket, and i
can't really afford that.  does anyone know of someone selling 1
ticket???? could you give me the # of a boston ticket agency that
may have a cheaper scalping price than what i have been quoted
in western mass and ct.  anyone who can help out i will greatly
be indebteed to you.

if this fails, what do you think my chances are of getting a ticket
from someone the night of the show selling one out front??  i did
this for alanis morisette, and it worked out, but i'm worried about
this show, being the last 2 of the tour.

thanks for your help.

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      our women's studies program lost...nigc

hello.  i am writing this letter with great sadness in my heart and my
fingertips, and i am feeling such a sense of alienation right now.  today,
at my university, the executive committe on the women's climate voted to
change the "women's studies" program to "women and gender studies" in
order to boost enrollment (ie get more men into the classes)  the problem
with this is that they have no mission statement, have made no guarentees
as to whether or not feminist professors will be teaching the class, and
told us that you cannot just take women's studies courses in order to get
a w.s. minor, you must also take gender studies courses.  my problem is
that i have been taught in a patriarchal system for 21 years, and these
women's studies courses were the first to focus on women, and their
validation.  i belong to an organization called "sisters", and today my
sister told me that "the women on this campus have been academically raped
and the program designed to validate them murdered."  i have not felt such
a strong sense of bonding with my sisters in a very long time.  the
problem is, the meeting that took place today was supposed to be closed,
they didn't let any students know about it.  when we told them it was
unfair that we didn't find out about it until the day of the final vote, i
was told, "even thought the students at the university are the
'customers', you come to us so that we can tell you what you need.  we are
the facilitators of knowledge, not you."   i can tell you, at 21, after
being a strong feminist for about 7 years (when i first heard ig and
learned about virginia woolf, sylvia plath, anne sexton, charlotte
perkins-gilman, etc)  i know what i need to learn, and i don't need anyone
to tell me what my needs are as a student.  the administration coated the
decision by reiterating that it is "just a name change" but i know hidden
agendas exist for all those involved.  we as students don't want to accept
the name because we don't want to comply and condone what they are doing
to our program.  the only three women there who voted for the program to
stay "women's studies" were all minorities, and could see what we were
saying.  tears are rolling now.  the patriarchial-alpha male types at our
university have already taken so much funding and options away from us
that we are being driven down.  we all wore black to the meeting
symbolizing the fact that the administration sees us as invisible.  they
don't want to acknowledge the fact that we are strong feminists with our
own agenda.  "it's just a name change" keeps echoing in my head.  i guess
we just have to refocus and begin fighting all over again.  i have written
an obituary for the women's studies program that i hope to publish in the
school newspaper.  the hardest part about all of this is that there was
only one man at the meeting, but it was still so hegemonic...still so "we
know what's good for you".  god, they treated us like children.  it's so
hard to meet women who are not feminists and think they know what's good
for you.

i have written enough...

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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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subject:      nigc birthdays

it's snowing here in seattle, and even though the birthday goddess made it
to school, it's supposed to freeze tonight, so she isn't sure what
tomorrow will bring.  so here's the birthdays for the next coupla days.

november 19
maclayton@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (margaret clayton)
happy birthday!!
so we're ok, we're fine, baby i'm here to stop your cryin'
chase all the ghosts from your head,
i'm stronger than the monster underneath your bed
smarter than the tricks played on your heart
we'll look at them together then we'll take 'em apart...


november 20
tracy fears, aka sal-ray
(the bg has no idea what the @ddress is, very sorry)
happy 21st!!
we were girls in bars, boys in the town,
jumping like a pinball off the careless crowd

(the bg tries to be appropriate)

have an indigo year!

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subject:      re: american journal
in-reply-to:  <961119175421_103161.3515_ihe72-1@compuserve.com>

could someone on the list let those of us in california know if the ig end
up being on aj any day except tuesday, thursday, or friday? since it has a
7:30 time slot here, it gets pre-empted all the time, and i think tues,
thurs, and fri are the only air dates out here...thanks!

                                        =), sherri

i don't speak your crazy moon language!
                                -the tick

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subject:      native american astro signs

im still waitng for this to be sent to me thank
you
hugs anthony van pyre

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subject:      re: american journal

ok kids, american journal has a web site (or more accurately, a page on the
kingworld web site) and for what its worth, there is a section for this
weeks line up.
so here is betsy doing cut and paste (sorry if it looks like sh*t).  you
too can go here (its not very fun tho..):
http://www.kingworld.com/ajournal/lineup.html

monday, november 18
                                                  michael jackson
american journal goes behind the scenes of the biggest music tour
ever--michael jackson- -"the king of
pop's history world tour." we go where no other cameras are allowed for a
backstage, personal look at one of the
world's most popular entertainers.

tuesday, november 19
                                                  rave parties
"raves" are all night, "underground" parties where kids, many as young as
12-13, get together in large groups to party
till dawn. they often take place in abandoned buildings or warehouses,
without official permits, inspections or proper
safety provisions. illegal and sometimes dangerous drugs are also a staple
of these parties. in an exclusive,
investigation, american journal went undercover to expose what every
parent should know about rave parties.

wednesday, november 20
                                                  monsters of the deep
though space has been called the final frontier, the sea is still a great
mystery to man. american journal took
to the seas of the cayman islands to explore some of the most exotic
creatures on the planet.

thursday, november 21
                                                  lawrence taylor
lawrence taylor was one of the greatest players in the history of the nfl,
a hero to many, making millions of dollars a
year. but, he almost lost it all to a terrible drug addiction. in an
exclusive interview, taylor talks with nancy glass
about his career, his addiction, and his efforts on the road to recovery.

friday, november 22
                                                  dangerous hotels
are you putting your life in danger every time you check into a hotel? at
some hotels, fire safety violations abound.
american journal went undercover to find some of the most hazardous hotels
in america.

********************************************************end of paste

since i don't normally watch this show, i don't know if they only do one
feature story.  so i also don't know if this tells us anything at all.
sorry for the apparent waste of bandwidth.

betsy


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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subject:      (nigc) ani on conan o'brien

hey to all -

i just found out that ani will be on the late show on wednesday, nov. 20.
for more information about "music on tv", check out this website:

http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/

it will tell you more than you want to know about who will be appearing
throughout the week.


mark your calendars now!

holly

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subject:      lyric help needed

hey y'all

    ok....i was sitting in an abnormally boring class the other day when the
prof. says an ig lyric. i know everyone has experienced this before, you jerk
up out of your stupor, racking your brain for the correct song. well, i did
just this but even after listening to all of my albums i could not find the
lyric. the prof. said, "concientous objective"..now i am not sure that these
are the exact words but i am pretty sure that this is an ig song that i
thinking of. so..please help me think of the song.....i can't stop thinking
about it....thanks so much.
              nub,
              lisa

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subject:      re: lyric help needed

at 06:38 pm 11/19/96 -0500, lisa wrote:
> i know everyone has experienced this before, you jerk
>up out of your stupor, racking your brain for the correct song.

well, i've got a similar problem! is there an ig song with the phrase "every
one's up in arms..." or is it some other artist (patty larkin, ani, catie
curtis, dar maybe?) could be i'm just imagining it too.  i've got this
single line running through my head though, and it's driving me crazy!

help, please!

abigail

***********************************************
* "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
*  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
*   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
*                                             *
*                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
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subject:      nigc rocky horror

ok, along the line of things that are driving me crazy cuz i just can't
think of their names, another biggie that started plaguing me this afternoon
is, what's the name of the second freaky female assistant from the rocky
horror picture show? i've got magenta, but i just can't remember the other
one's name! chartruse maybe, or cinninatti? i think it's the name of a city.
ooh! this is driving me nuts!

:) abigail

(by the by, i'm taping am. journal every day this week (can we say
obsessed?!) and that show is absolutely awful!)

***********************************************
* "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
*  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
*   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
*                                             *
*                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
***********************************************

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subject:      top ten signs emily saliers is trapped in the body of gabrielle:
              amazon princess*

from the home offices in poteidaia, ga...


10. insists on playing all of the tricky lead pan flute parts
9. discovers that, while seemingly easy at first inspection, the
    warstaff _is_ in fact the hardest to learn
8. flying biscuits replace nutbread as favorite food
7. while storytelling at the local tavern, entranced audience members
    think to themselves "she's looking at me!!"
6. _never_ breaks a warstaff on any adventure
5. referred to by the locals as "gabrielle, girl with the weight of the
    world in her hands"
4. finds she prefers to wear the black mask rather than the
    traditional amazonian animal masks
3. incessant speculation about her relationship with xena feels
    strangely familiar...
2. the other night, a couple of beers with friends turned into a bacchic
    free-for-all love-in

and the number one sign emily saliers is trapped in the body of gabrielle..

1. still can't decide if her hair is red, strawberry-blond, or blond


tig


*note: gabrielle, for the uninitiated, is xena: warrior princess' trusty
       sidekick

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subject:      stephanie sayers and the bugaboos
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hey y'all.. i got a couple of questions for you:

  sometime last spring a woman by the name of stephanie sayers played on a
rdr right at eddie's attic.. they said she's from athens, ga, and since i've
been here, i've been looking out for her name, but haven't seen a thing..
anyone know anything about her?  i know she's got a cd out, but that's it.
thanks for any info on her.

  and also- anyone know what the bugaboos are up too?  i'm wanting to take a
friend to see them play, but haven't seen them listed in ages.. maybe i'm
just missing it?  can anyone point me to a schedule?

thanks a lot!

take care,
brooke

          "..my heart commends while my words defend..."
                         -radar rose

****************http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html******************

  (diz quote be here for you ss -mbr)
"..underneath this cynicism,
     there's a girl who believes your
      wisdom,
       good things come to those who wait..."-jg/rr

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subject:      nigc - ferron, ani

hey everyone,

sorry to waste space with this...but i was wondering if anyone heard ferron
on world cafe this week?  it was aired here in the nyc area on wfuv on sunday
night.  anyway i just discovered ferron so i only knew one of the four songs
she did.  i taped the show so if anyone has the setlist for that please email
me privately and let me know what those songs were :>

also...i'm looking for an extra ticket for the ani show at the beacon theater
in nyc on friday for a friend of mine.  if anyone has a ticket or knows
someone who does please let me know.  oh and if anyone from the list is going
to be at that show and wants to meet up drop me some mail.  thanks a lot :>

have a happy day,
elizabeth

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colombia

jen (a rocky horror freak! ;)

on tue, 19 nov 1996, abigail wrote:

> ok, along the line of things that are driving me crazy cuz i just can't
> think of their names, another biggie that started plaguing me this afternoon
> is, what's the name of the second freaky female assistant from the rocky
> horror picture show? i've got magenta, but i just can't remember the other
> one's name! chartruse maybe, or cinninatti? i think it's the name of a city.
> ooh! this is driving me nuts!
>
> :) abigail
>
> (by the by, i'm taping am. journal every day this week (can we say
> obsessed?!) and that show is absolutely awful!)
>
> ***********************************************
> * "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
> *  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
> *   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
> *                                             *
> *                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
> ***********************************************
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subject:      re: lyric help needed
x-to:         cancerlili@aol.com

: hey y'all
:
:     ok....i was sitting in an abnormally boring class the other day when
the
: prof. says an ig lyric. i know everyone has experienced this before, you
jerk
: up out of your stupor, racking your brain for the correct song. well, i
did
: just this but even after listening to all of my albums i could not find
the
: lyric. the prof. said, "concientous objective"..now i am not sure that
these
: are the exact words but i am pretty sure that this is an ig song that i
: thinking of. so..please help me think of the song.....i can't stop
thinking
: about it....thanks so much.
:               nub,
:               lisa

i believe the song you are looking for is _least complicated_.  does this
sound familiar...
        so i sit up in the house and resist
        and not be seen until i cease to exist
        a kind of concientous objection
        a kind of dodging the draft.
                -emily saliers

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subject:      choose is a boot is closed (for now)

dear ig list

the response was overwhelming. i'm a little over the top as far as the
number of boots i'm now doing. if there is interest, i will do it again
in a few months. but, for now, can't handle anymore.

marian
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subject:      conscientious objector (sigc)

--- lisa wrote:
the prof. said, "concientous objective"..now i am not sure that these
are the exact words but i am pretty sure that this is an ig song that i
thinking of. so..please help me think of the song.....i can't stop thinking
about it..
--- end of quoted material ---
the line is from least complicated "...a conscientious objector, a kind of
dodging the draft...."

i assume your prof (and the girls in the song) was talking about conscientious
objecting, which is when people  opt out of the military draft legally for
reasons of conscience, because they don't believe that humans should ever,
under any circumstances, kill other humans. a good example of people who often
become conscientious objectors are quakers like me :)

power to the oatmeal people,
susan

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subject:      looking for boston, ma dec. 12, 1990

hi all!

with all the boot trading and talk, i figured it
wouldn't hurt to ask.  this one goes back a bit.
would anyone happen to have the orpheum, boston ma
december 12, 1990 show?

i have some stuff to trade.  e-mail if you can help.
thanks much.

        j.

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subject:      re: so paper--long!

i thought this was a great paper with lots of cool insights, but i'm
not sure i agree with this:
>"mystery" is also in this vein, but it's about a friend, not a
>lover.
>emily feels puzzled about the friendship, not knowing  what will
>happen,
>but wanting to stick with it anyway.
i've always thought of it as being about a lover.  what in the song
might make a case for one or the other?

just wondering,
christy:)
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subject:      re: nigc rocky horror

abigail <abaroo@execpc.com> wrote:

>subject: nigc rocky horror
>
>ok, along the line of things that are driving me crazy cuz i just can't
>think of their names, another biggie that started plaguing me this afternoon
>is, what's the name of the second freaky female assistant from the rocky
>horror picture show? i've got magenta, but i just can't remember the other
>one's name! chartruse maybe, or cinninatti? i think it's the name of a city.
>ooh! this is driving me nuts!
>
>:) abigail

her name was columbia. hope you get this before you get committed.  ;-)

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at 06:05 pm 11/19/96 -0600, abigail wrote:
>ok, along the line of things that are driving me crazy cuz i just can't
>think of their names, another biggie that started plaguing me this afternoon
>is, what's the name of the second freaky female assistant from the rocky
>horror picture show? i've got magenta, but i just can't remember the other
>one's name! chartruse maybe, or cinninatti? i think it's the name of a city.
>ooh! this is driving me nuts!


i feel a little proficiency here...

audience: what's your favorite color?!?!
frank: magenta
audience: where do you get your weed?!?!
frank: columbia

there you go folks....  columbia, played by little nell, the second freaky
assistent in rhps...

let's do the time warp again!!!

alec

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the second assistant was named columbia and was played by little nell.

----------------------------------------------
and as long as she's got noise, she's fine.
but i could teach her how i learned to dance          8)jamie
   when the music's ended.
oh,  and that's not easy.
i don't know what you saw, i want somebody
   who sees me.
i will not be afraid of women, i will not be
   afraid of women.
                             dar williams
                              "as cool as i am"
                              mortal city
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date:         wed, 20 nov 1996 12:32:54 +1000
reply-to:     julie jansen <j.jansen@student.qut.edu.au>
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subject:      native american astrology - jj speaking
in-reply-to:  <199611200005.taa27270@netspace.org>

hi there ig'ers!

sorry to those who've waited so long. i have been horrificly sick the
last few weeks, my health was decimated. so it has been a while since i
seriously caught up to my obligations.

i should be in before friday and i will most definitely post you the
information again. just give me some time.

>im still waitng for this to be sent to me thank you
>hugs anthony van pyre

yeh sorry it's been a long time to wait hasn't it. ok, consider it done
very soon. i would have done it today but i didn't bring the disk file
with me (i don't email from home and i have to clean out my sent-mail box
regularly)..

cheerio!
julie
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cheerio!
julie
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"you'll never make it in the newspaper business if you cry
every time i strike you!!" tim curry, the naked truth

"here, i am a goddess. i am feared and admired!!" camilla, the naked truth

"hey, i know how to turn a woman on. i show her my mountie.";-)

"are they chanel pumps?...stunning!" the promise

ofcc:"nice shirt."
tdl: "uh - you caught me changing."
ofcc:"i'm sure we did!"
- mask

"they think i'm complete scum - and down here, your reputation
is everything." pilot

"people shrink when they die, everyone knows that! in life, i was 6'2"!"
- the miffed dead mountie, bith

"i just asked them to watch the car."
"i think they were already *watching* it." pilot

"you don't *have* a hand!"
"well, still i had to offer it son." bith

"does the word 'bullets' mean anything to you??" pilot

"you're not stopping!"
"no sir, i'm not..."  the promise

"in newsrooms all over the world, i have made strong men cry and weak men
wet themselves. not in spite of being a woman, but because i am a woman!"
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- has anyone seen my furry-diced sombrero, castanets and maraccas?

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from:         maureen a haley <yvzy46a@prodigy.com>
subject:      blasphemy!!!!

hey, listees!

     i was just responding to lisa's post about conscientious
objectors and raised a question that i thought i might post to the
list.  my impression of the phrase from least complicated:

   "so  i just sit up in the house and resist/and not be seen until i
cease to exist/a kind of conscientious objection/ a kind of dodging
the draft"

    as emily sort of chastising herself for not participating in
something (to what she might be referring could be a whole different
thread...).  anyway, i *really* think the term 'conscientious
objection' is misused here.  she seems to be saying that she's been
copping-out by not participating - now, 'dodging the draft' is
commonly used as a derisive term, but my impression of co's is that
they feel that they sincerely cannot take part in warfare ( the peace-
loving mahommed ali/cashis clay - i have no idea how to spell his
names - aside. : ) }.  i think the devine ms. s. is being a little
short-sighted here.  any thoughts?
remember                peace                 maureen

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remember           peace             maureen

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subject:      re: musical metaphors (instead of those dang shirts!)

hey!

i dont know if anyone has mentioned this one...but how about in "ghost" when
emily says "key", and augments the key.  that rocks!

jan

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subject:      nigc-the connells
x-to:         chris_udvare@pagenet.com

hey everyone,

i am just a posting maniac today (so far 2...world record for me!)

anyway, i was wondering if anyone has any boots, or info in general, about
the connells.  a friend of mine is really into them, but he cant seem to find
much from them.  i'd be willing to trade....  :)

please email me privately.

thanks,
jan

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subject:      re: green vinyl
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in a message dated 96-11-18 22:11:40 est, nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu (lisa on
the prairie) writes:

<< >>
>i think i remember that guy. i think he used to sign them before the
>shows...but he was kinda cute anyway..anyone else know anything about
>this? >>

hey, yea, that guy got me for $40.00 in philly this summer.  can't believe
how good looking he was!

;)
jan

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date:         tue, 19 nov 1996 23:26:49 -0500
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subject:      ig trivia!!!

so i thought it was time for a new trivia question...here it is:

what voice part were a&e in their elementary school choir?

respond to me through private e-mail, & i'll post the results in a couple days.

btw, i saw ani last night, & she was amazing!!! :)

andi

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subject:      zapatista feminista in ms magazine (sigc)
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a couple of folks have mentioned ani on the cover of ms, and this same
issue also has a story about cecilia rodriguez--she spoke about chiapas
and zapatistas at several of the southwest stops on igs' demo tour.  no
mention of ig in ms., but some talk about rape as a weapon-of-war against
women.  i posted a transcript of one of cecilia's demo-tour talks awhile
back, and if you've joined the list since then you can email me for a
copy.


happy indigo :)
donna

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subject:      green vinyl & the faqs

jan said:
>hey, yea, that guy got me for $40.00 in philly this summer.  can't believe
>how good looking he was!

hey, wait.  that guy got me for $40 in philly too.  darn, there goes
my feeling of uniqueness and specialness. :)

just a reminder everyone: both the ig faq and the mailing list
faq are available on the www at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig.
there've been a couple of minor changes to both - we fixed the
date of "color me grey" in both faqs, a new question ("what does
the 'revised' in 'this train revised' mean?") was added to the ig
faq, and we've also added a short section to the list faq which
outlines a couple of matters which should be thought about by
anyone considering making any t-shirts, posters etc.  also please
note that both faqs are copyright jcsdoubled.  thanks to the
estimable ms reiser for the name. :)

i won't waste bandwidth and send the faqs to the list again - if
you're interested in seeing the changes, check out the faqs at
(that url again) http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig or grab them by
anon ftp at space.mit.edu/pub/cmb/ig.

happy happy all,
sherlyn

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   "didn't i used to wanna set the world straight,
    or wrestle the demons from inside?
    or sign a signature to something great?
    but lately i'm just in it for the ride..."        - susan werner

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subject:      "am i blue" project

i just want to thank everybody for the support you've sent my way about my
project. i'll respond individually to everyone over the next few days.
in the mean time though, i've got some bad news. it seems that if i accept
any donations from people from the list, i could get charged with soliciting
money over the internet, and so i can't take any money at this poing. :(
in the mean time, my friends and i are begining the seemingly tedious
process of attempting to set up a charitible fund or foundation in order to
continue our project and be able to accept tax exempt donations to do so.
it's difficult though, since we are minors and have no experience with this
sort of thing. the last thing we want to do though is get in any sort of a
legal mess because of our ignorance of detailed laws. in the mean time, i'm
extremely frustrated with the situation--we can't afford to send out many
more books with our own money, but we feel it's urgent that our project
continues without unnecessary delay.
so, we're going to be seeking legal advice and possibly looking for a larger
non-profit organization that would be willing to assist us. if anybody is
knowledgable as to how we should go about doing so, please let me know. i'll
keep you all posted as to progress.
in the mean time, all i can offer is to urge you to read the book!
surprisingly, many libraries carry it under their young adult sections. its
editor/author is marion dane bauer, and you won't regret reading it. if it
touches you, pass it on to a friend, it will help someone, believe me, i've
watched it happen.
i'm going to have to be patient, and i'll let the list know when i'm able to
start taking donations, hopefully it will be soon!

:) abigail

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subject:      ok, so here's the question........

hey ya'll-

i am one of those who scarfed a vinyl from susan marine, quaker at large..
(i believe in peace, too!!)  anyhoo, how do i tell if my vinyl is black
or green without opening it?  i know for a fact that it is worth more moohla
if it is preserved in it's plastic, unopened and untouched....

anybody have any clues?  or hey, susan, do you know?

thanks!

karrie

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subject:      top ten signs amy ray is trapped in the body of xena: warrior
              princess

from the home offices in poteidaia, ga...


10. breaks a sword on _every_ adventure
9. attractive new gabrielle tattoo on left arm
8. genuine leather uniform replaced by faux synthetic leather-material
7. insists she fight on her right side and gabrielle fight on the left
6. opens her own independent chakram company to support struggling chakram
    artists
5. concludes bloody defeat of evil warlords army with "thanks y'all"
    while rescued villagers cheer.
4. does interpretive combat dance to "blood and fire"
3. incessant speculation about her relationship with gabrielle feels
    strangely familiar...
2. replaces "yiyiyiyi" warcry with "babybabybaby"

and the number one sign amy ray is trapped in the body of xena

1. she is still referred to as "the brunette"

tig

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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      american journal

hi folks,

american journal usually features around 4 or so different segments.  since
it comes on here at 11:30 a.m. cst, and i have been coming home for lunch
every day this week so that i can tape it, i will post a message whenever
our beloved girls are on.  i hope it's this week, cause i'm getting antsy!

peace, love and ig,

joan :)

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subject:      re: i need your imaginative brains!
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on mon, 18 nov 1996, marianne wrote:

> can anyone help me think of some creative ceramic sculpture ideas
> having anything to do with ig?

- a figure dressed in a combo of a nomad, an indian, and a saint

- a ghost

- a heart with three holes or something signifying a wound

- a table set for six, but only five figures around it

- two girls painted blue

- a figure that is half man, half chicken  ;)

ugh..it's monday..my brain is still floating around in ani heaven..i
can't think of anything else that is somewhat creative...

anna

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?"  -jane swan

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from:         jonny wu <wuman@warwick.net>
subject:      t.v. appearance

hey guys,

        i was just wondering when ig's appearance on "american journal" was
supposed to be.  i tried to look it up in my tv guide but i couldn't
find it.  what time and channel is the program on?

have a great day!!!!!!!

-jonny
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                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

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date:         mon, 18 nov 1996 16:09:31 -0500
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anyone have any idea if the girls are coming to pittsburgh any time soon?

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*you set up your place in my thoughts
moved in and made my thinking crowded*

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subject:      "silver bells, da da dum..." sigc

hey y'all... was sitting home with too too much time on my hands and got a
little silly with putting an x-mas flavour in some of our favorite ig songs....
here's the first ( sung to the tune of three hits... )
picture, if you will a poor ol' hill-billy type mom + her young son on x-mas
eve... very little money... but lots o' hope an' heart...
ach ach achem... and the song goes something like this:

three gifts by the hearth son,
and stuffed poultry in the oven
uncle ben from 'cross the river
has some gifts to be delivered
could you cut us down a tree then
we can decorate by sundown,
three gifts by the hearth son,
and poultry in the oven,
there's a good tree by bob mezzer's
in the woods by his chicken coop
take a moment just to measure
i would painfully remind you
bout the fifteen foot high spruce tree...

anybody care to finish this sad lil' song??? :-)
peace all... kim ( who apologizes for her weirdness ) ( far too often ):-)
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put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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at 04:15 pm 11/18/96 edt, anna wrote:
>
>- a figure that is half man, half chicken  ;)
>
>"you wear a disguise, you look like human guys..
but you're not a man, you're a chicken boo!!!"
...animaniacs; 1985
always makes *this* ig fan think o' chickenman:-)
peace all... kim the demented:-)
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put your hands in the air and step
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subject:      color me grey

nashville was not on the original 'color me grey'.  the story that i have
picked up over the years is that only seven copies of the original tape were
made and they were given out as christmas presents to friends and family in
1982.  the tape that has been so widely circulated was either a re-release
by amy (i heard a rumour about this at one time but have never found
anything to substantiate it) or a re-sequenced compilation tape of amy
tracks (with wrong titles and the beginning of one of the songs missing)
that a fan put together later on.  in addition to 'nashville', the last two
tracks were live versions of 'blood and fire' and 'land of canaan', which
have been removed from most dubs that are in circulation.

here is the set list from the original 'color me grey':

just passing time
no way out
losing touch
sweet gypsy
the distance remains the same
i'll be there
slow moving sea
thursday afternoon

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subject:      indigo wavs

hey!
which song snippits make the best wav files and how have you associated them
with your computer functions?
i have "all skate, now reverse" associated with "file's done".
let's hear you ideas and maybe trade some wavs!

~~robin

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subject:      re: conscientious objector (sigc)
in-reply-to:  <3e0d7537011c0e00>

mauren wrote:
> anyway, i *really* think the term 'conscientious
>objection' is misused here.  she seems to be saying that she's been
>copping-out by not participating - now, 'dodging the draft' is
>commonly used as a derisive term, but my impression of co's is that
>they feel that they sincerely cannot take part in warfare

as someone who registered as a conscientious objector on my draft card
(am i dating myself here, are they still registering?), i can say that
there are definite differences between being a co and dodging the draft,
but i won't go into those here.  there are also a lot of similarities
and, as such,  i'm not bothered by the coupling of the two terms.  i
don't think that draft dodger should be thought of as a derisive term.
many draft dodgers were exactly the same as co's anyway, they just didn't
have a "sanctioned explanation."  to be a co, you had to have an
authorized reason, i.e. you had to have a religious belief backing your
decision.  someone who felt in their heart that they could not kill
another person could not simply claim co status.   many draft dodgers
were just as morally opposed to participating in the war as co's, but
were simply not recognized as such by the government.   whatever your
religious beliefs, no one should be forced against their will to go
anywhere and kill anyone for a  war that they don't believe in.  i think
the reason there were far more draft dodgers during the viet nam war than
during wwii has more to do with the wars themselves than with changing
times.  while the subject is obviously much deeper and more complicated
than would be appropriate for discussion here, i'll just conclude that i
don't read emily's line as being derisive.

>my impression of co's is that they feel that they sincerely cannot take
>part in warfare ( the peace-loving mahommed ali/cashis clay - i have
>no idea how to spell his names - aside. : ) }

as for mohammed ali, he is truly a man of peace.  boxing is sport, not
war.  there is a big difference.  if you want to look at violence in
sports, look at sports like baseball where players start fights out of
anger and with the intent to injure others.  ali never fought with anger
or hatred, except against racism, bigotry, and an unjust war.  he is one
of the few athletes in our lifetime that is an excellent role model and
deserves all the love and respect in the world.  if you do not believe
me, i would recommend reading more about ali, including an upcoming (it
may be out now)  book he has written himself.

well, i've gone on too long already.

peace, love, and lots of oats,
  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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the second assistant in rhps is columbia...you do mean the one who does a
crazy wacky tap dance during the time warp? the one that's in love with
eddie? yeah. that's columbia.

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*here, take my handkerchief.
never at any crisis in your life,
have i known you to have a handkerchief*


on tue, 19 nov 1996, automatic digest processor wrote:

> there are 16 messages totalling 527 lines in this issue.
>
> topics in this special issue:
>
>   1. melissa evans : nigc but shes great
>   2. american journal (3)
>   3. bumpershoot
>   4. nigc:  ani in boston on sat, i need help!!!!
>   5. our women's studies program lost...nigc
>   6. nigc birthdays
>   7. native american astro signs
>   8. (no subject)
>   9. (nigc) ani on conan o'brien
>  10. lyric help needed (2)
>  11. nigc rocky horror
>  12. top ten signs emily saliers is trapped in the body of gabrielle: amazon
>      princess*
>  13. stephanie sayers and the bugaboos
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 12:46:17 -0800
> from:    pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
> subject: melissa evans : nigc but shes great
>
> i just today received a tape in the mail from an australian artist,
> melissa evans. who will be doing a tour in the states this next year..she
> is wonderful.
> if you can cathch her at all..run ,don"t walk..
> if you're at all interested , you can e-mail me privately and i can tell
> you how to get a listen (  unless c. wical wants to post.hint hint!).
> really should give her some support..
> pooh
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 12:54:22 est
> from:    joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
> subject: american journal
>
> someone was asking what time american journal ("a.j.") came on.  i think the
> show is syndicated, so the time it airs depends on the station carrying it.
> here in nashville, it comes on at 11:30 a.m., whereas, at my parents' home in
> kentucky, it comes on at 5:00 p.m.  btw, ig are not on today...just a lot of
> stuff about michael jackson and o.j. (ugh!)  maybe tomorrow...
>
> peace and happy viewing,
>
> joan :)
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 13:51:11 -0800
> from:    pat chaney <pooh40@mc.net>
> subject: bumpershoot
>
> so i got my copy of the show.. i know this may have been
> discussed before but i didn't pay attention cause i didn't know what you
> all were talking about..
> now i'm asking..who is that screaching girl and what in heavens name is
> happening to her?????is she ok??????
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 13:07:03 -0500
> from:    deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
> subject: nigc:  ani in boston on sat, i need help!!!!
>
>  sorry for the nigc:
>
>  i was sure that i could get 1 ticket to saturdays ani show at the
>  orpheum in boston cause their recording said they had obstructed
>  view seats left, but now they don't and i made plans with a friend
>  i haven't seen for a long time to go with her.  i tried calling
>  some ticket agents but they want $50 to $65 for 1 ticket, and i
>  can't really afford that.  does anyone know of someone selling 1
>  ticket???? could you give me the # of a boston ticket agency that
>  may have a cheaper scalping price than what i have been quoted
>  in western mass and ct.  anyone who can help out i will greatly
>  be indebteed to you.
>
>  if this fails, what do you think my chances are of getting a ticket
>  from someone the night of the show selling one out front??  i did
>  this for alanis morisette, and it worked out, but i'm worried about
>  this show, being the last 2 of the tour.
>
>  thanks for your help.
>
>  take care and peace!
>
>  -deb
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 14:04:25 -0500
> from:    "mrs. dalloway" <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu>
> subject: our women's studies program lost...nigc
>
> hello.  i am writing this letter with great sadness in my heart and my
> fingertips, and i am feeling such a sense of alienation right now.  today,
> at my university, the executive committe on the women's climate voted to
> change the "women's studies" program to "women and gender studies" in
> order to boost enrollment (ie get more men into the classes)  the problem
> with this is that they have no mission statement, have made no guarentees
> as to whether or not feminist professors will be teaching the class, and
> told us that you cannot just take women's studies courses in order to get
> a w.s. minor, you must also take gender studies courses.  my problem is
> that i have been taught in a patriarchal system for 21 years, and these
> women's studies courses were the first to focus on women, and their
> validation.  i belong to an organization called "sisters", and today my
> sister told me that "the women on this campus have been academically raped
> and the program designed to validate them murdered."  i have not felt such
> a strong sense of bonding with my sisters in a very long time.  the
> problem is, the meeting that took place today was supposed to be closed,
> they didn't let any students know about it.  when we told them it was
> unfair that we didn't find out about it until the day of the final vote, i
> was told, "even thought the students at the university are the
> 'customers', you come to us so that we can tell you what you need.  we are
> the facilitators of knowledge, not you."   i can tell you, at 21, after
> being a strong feminist for about 7 years (when i first heard ig and
> learned about virginia woolf, sylvia plath, anne sexton, charlotte
> perkins-gilman, etc)  i know what i need to learn, and i don't need anyone
> to tell me what my needs are as a student.  the administration coated the
> decision by reiterating that it is "just a name change" but i know hidden
> agendas exist for all those involved.  we as students don't want to accept
> the name because we don't want to comply and condone what they are doing
> to our program.  the only three women there who voted for the program to
> stay "women's studies" were all minorities, and could see what we were
> saying.  tears are rolling now.  the patriarchial-alpha male types at our
> university have already taken so much funding and options away from us
> that we are being driven down.  we all wore black to the meeting
> symbolizing the fact that the administration sees us as invisible.  they
> don't want to acknowledge the fact that we are strong feminists with our
> own agenda.  "it's just a name change" keeps echoing in my head.  i guess
> we just have to refocus and begin fighting all over again.  i have written
> an obituary for the women's studies program that i hope to publish in the
> school newspaper.  the hardest part about all of this is that there was
> only one man at the meeting, but it was still so hegemonic...still so "we
> know what's good for you".  god, they treated us like children.  it's so
> hard to meet women who are not feminists and think they know what's good
> for you.
>
> i have written enough...
>
> ###############################################################################
>
>
> "is this still life all i'm good for too?
>  there by the window quietly killed for you
>  and they drive by like insects do
>  they think they don't know me
>  they hired a car for you..."
> -brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"
>
> "jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
> -my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick
>
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 11:23:23 -0800
> from:    karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu>
> subject: nigc birthdays
>
> it's snowing here in seattle, and even though the birthday goddess made it
> to school, it's supposed to freeze tonight, so she isn't sure what
> tomorrow will bring.  so here's the birthdays for the next coupla days.
>
> november 19
> maclayton@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (margaret clayton)
> happy birthday!!
> so we're ok, we're fine, baby i'm here to stop your cryin'
> chase all the ghosts from your head,
> i'm stronger than the monster underneath your bed
> smarter than the tricks played on your heart
> we'll look at them together then we'll take 'em apart...
>
>
> november 20
> tracy fears, aka sal-ray
> (the bg has no idea what the @ddress is, very sorry)
> happy 21st!!
> we were girls in bars, boys in the town,
> jumping like a pinball off the careless crowd
>
> (the bg tries to be appropriate)
>
> have an indigo year!
>
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 10:11:43 -0800
> from:    sherri lynn jacobson <slj@csulb.edu>
> subject: re: american journal
>
> could someone on the list let those of us in california know if the ig end
> up being on aj any day except tuesday, thursday, or friday? since it has a
> 7:30 time slot here, it gets pre-empted all the time, and i think tues,
> thurs, and fri are the only air dates out here...thanks!
>
>                                         =), sherri
>
> i don't speak your crazy moon language!
>                                 -the tick
>
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 15:16:14 -0500
> from:    mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
> subject: native american astro signs
>
> im still waitng for this to be sent to me thank
> you
> hugs anthony van pyre
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 12:19:30 -0800
> from:    mediancat <bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com>
> subject: re: american journal
>
> ok kids, american journal has a web site (or more accurately, a page on the
> kingworld web site) and for what its worth, there is a section for this
> weeks line up.
> so here is betsy doing cut and paste (sorry if it looks like sh*t).  you
> too can go here (its not very fun tho..):
> http://www.kingworld.com/ajournal/lineup.html
>
> monday, november 18
>                                                   michael jackson
>  american journal goes behind the scenes of the biggest music tour
> ever--michael jackson- -"the king of
>  pop's history world tour." we go where no other cameras are allowed for a
> backstage, personal look at one of the
>  world's most popular entertainers.
>
>  tuesday, november 19
>                                                   rave parties
>  "raves" are all night, "underground" parties where kids, many as young as
> 12-13, get together in large groups to party
>  till dawn. they often take place in abandoned buildings or warehouses,
> without official permits, inspections or proper
>  safety provisions. illegal and sometimes dangerous drugs are also a staple
> of these parties. in an exclusive,
>  investigation, american journal went undercover to expose what every
> parent should know about rave parties.
>
>  wednesday, november 20
>                                                   monsters of the deep
>  though space has been called the final frontier, the sea is still a great
> mystery to man. american journal took
>  to the seas of the cayman islands to explore some of the most exotic
> creatures on the planet.
>
>  thursday, november 21
>                                                   lawrence taylor
>  lawrence taylor was one of the greatest players in the history of the nfl,
> a hero to many, making millions of dollars a
>  year. but, he almost lost it all to a terrible drug addiction. in an
> exclusive interview, taylor talks with nancy glass
>  about his career, his addiction, and his efforts on the road to recovery.
>
>  friday, november 22
>                                                   dangerous hotels
>  are you putting your life in danger every time you check into a hotel? at
> some hotels, fire safety violations abound.
>  american journal went undercover to find some of the most hazardous hotels
> in america.
>
> ********************************************************end of paste
>
> since i don't normally watch this show, i don't know if they only do one
> feature story.  so i also don't know if this tells us anything at all.
> sorry for the apparent waste of bandwidth.
>
> betsy
>
>
>
>
> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
> ..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
>       when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
>                        all for one and one for all
>                     then we sing the common call.....
>                                                              e. saliers
> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
>
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>
> date:    wed, 20 nov 1996 17:43:13 -0500
> from:    kate straus <kstraus@goucher.edu>
> subject: (no subject)
>
> subscrbe indigo-girls kate_straus
>
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 17:15:01 -0600
> from:    holly hickman <hickman@baste.magibox.net>
> subject: (nigc) ani on conan o'brien
>
> hey to all -
>
> i just found out that ani will be on the late show on wednesday, nov. 20.
> for more information about "music on tv", check out this website:
>
> http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/
>
> it will tell you more than you want to know about who will be appearing
> throughout the week.
>
>
> mark your calendars now!
>
> holly
>
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 18:38:18 -0500
> from:    lisa anderson <cancerlili@aol.com>
> subject: lyric help needed
>
> hey y'all
>
>     ok....i was sitting in an abnormally boring class the other day when the
> prof. says an ig lyric. i know everyone has experienced this before, you jerk
> up out of your stupor, racking your brain for the correct song. well, i did
> just this but even after listening to all of my albums i could not find the
> lyric. the prof. said, "concientous objective"..now i am not sure that these
> are the exact words but i am pretty sure that this is an ig song that i
> thinking of. so..please help me think of the song.....i can't stop thinking
> about it....thanks so much.
>               nub,
>               lisa
>
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 18:01:38 -0600
> from:    abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
> subject: re: lyric help needed
>
> at 06:38 pm 11/19/96 -0500, lisa wrote:
> > i know everyone has experienced this before, you jerk
> >up out of your stupor, racking your brain for the correct song.
>
> well, i've got a similar problem! is there an ig song with the phrase "every
> one's up in arms..." or is it some other artist (patty larkin, ani, catie
> curtis, dar maybe?) could be i'm just imagining it too.  i've got this
> single line running through my head though, and it's driving me crazy!
>
> help, please!
>
> abigail
>
> ***********************************************
> * "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
> *  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
> *   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
> *                                             *
> *                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
> ***********************************************
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> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 18:05:09 -0600
> from:    abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
> subject: nigc rocky horror
>
> ok, along the line of things that are driving me crazy cuz i just can't
> think of their names, another biggie that started plaguing me this afternoon
> is, what's the name of the second freaky female assistant from the rocky
> horror picture show? i've got magenta, but i just can't remember the other
> one's name! chartruse maybe, or cinninatti? i think it's the name of a city.
> ooh! this is driving me nuts!
>
> :) abigail
>
> (by the by, i'm taping am. journal every day this week (can we say
> obsessed?!) and that show is absolutely awful!)
>
> ***********************************************
> * "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
> *  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
> *   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
> *                                             *
> *                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
> ***********************************************
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 18:01:04 -0600
> from:    tig <tig@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
> subject: top ten signs emily saliers is trapped in the body of gabrielle:
>          amazon princess*
>
> from the home offices in poteidaia, ga...
>
>
> 10. insists on playing all of the tricky lead pan flute parts
>  9. discovers that, while seemingly easy at first inspection, the
>     warstaff _is_ in fact the hardest to learn
>  8. flying biscuits replace nutbread as favorite food
>  7. while storytelling at the local tavern, entranced audience members
>     think to themselves "she's looking at me!!"
>  6. _never_ breaks a warstaff on any adventure
>  5. referred to by the locals as "gabrielle, girl with the weight of the
>     world in her hands"
>  4. finds she prefers to wear the black mask rather than the
>     traditional amazonian animal masks
>  3. incessant speculation about her relationship with xena feels
>     strangely familiar...
>  2. the other night, a couple of beers with friends turned into a bacchic
>     free-for-all love-in
>
> and the number one sign emily saliers is trapped in the body of gabrielle..
>
>  1. still can't decide if her hair is red, strawberry-blond, or blond
>
>
> tig
>
>
> *note: gabrielle, for the uninitiated, is xena: warrior princess' trusty
>        sidekick
>
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>
> date:    tue, 19 nov 1996 20:07:55 -0500
> from:    "kayak.river.mountains" <water@mindspring.com>
> subject: stephanie sayers and the bugaboos
>
> hey y'all.. i got a couple of questions for you:
>
>   sometime last spring a woman by the name of stephanie sayers played on a
> rdr right at eddie's attic.. they said she's from athens, ga, and since i've
> been here, i've been looking out for her name, but haven't seen a thing..
> anyone know anything about her?  i know she's got a cd out, but that's it.
> thanks for any info on her.
>
>   and also- anyone know what the bugaboos are up too?  i'm wanting to take a
> friend to see them play, but haven't seen them listed in ages.. maybe i'm
> just missing it?  can anyone point me to a schedule?
>
> thanks a lot!
>
> take care,
> brooke
>
>
>
>           "..my heart commends while my words defend..."
>                          -radar rose
>
> ****************http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html******************
>
>   (diz quote be here for you ss -mbr)
>  "..underneath this cynicism,
>      there's a girl who believes your
>       wisdom,
>        good things come to those who wait..."-jg/rr
>
> ****************************************************************************
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> ********************************************************
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subject:      ok, ok, here's the newbie tree :)

well, here it is (finally:) .  the chance to get five of the most popular
oldies but goodies the a&e made prior to 1990.  these are the staples that
should give you a good base for collecting boots by the ig.  here is the
list.  if you get a boot that does not have all the songs listed on these
setlists, you have a bad copy and was prolly made at a very much later date.
all of the copies i have made for the volunteer dubbers listed below have
been made from very low generation, high quality tapes.  i finally have the
last set made for them so here we go......

if you receive any of these boots without a liner (a paper insert in the
plastic cassette  which lists the names of all the songs on the cassette),
let me know and  you can send me a self addressed stamped envelope and i will
send you one.
or you can just contact your dubber and raise hell until you get one :)

the setlists for the five tapes offered are:

1981
tuesday's children (studio)
60 min
wysteria, carolina in my mind, jukie's lament, her town too, house
at pooh corner, danny's song, rock me on the water, father and son,
come down in time, it's too late, you've got a friend, dancing
shoes, long ago and far away, leaving ain't fair, a heart in new
york, tuesday's children

1982
color me grey (amy ray)
60 min
scared to say we're friends, nashville, falling star, carry me
away, anyway i love you, clues to you, always be there, color me
grey, free through eternity, passing time, losing touch, erase the
pain, anyone but myself

1985
blue food - the dugout, decatur, ga
60 min
if you live like that, crazy game, holy city, weakness in me, never
stop, peace song, draw the line, nashville, malachy's, everybody's
waiting (studio), the untitled song, running from the cold, no way
to treat a friend, i wanna be your lover, american tune

the dugout, decatur, ga 198?
60 min
up on the roof, summer-highland falls, the untitled song, rock me
on the water, draw the line, no way to treat a friend, crazy game,
romeo and juliet, love the one you're with, if you live like that,
nashville, fire and rain, drift away, up on the roof

1986
the purple parrot, atlanta, ga
90 min
no way to treat a friend, if you live like that, weakness in me,
love of the common people, house at pooh corner,  danny's song,
holy city, never stop, hammond song, drift away, love the one
you're with, draw the line, girls talk, the water is wide, the
unititled song, everybody's waiting, crazy game, up on the roof,
country road, it's too late, summertime

march 16, 1987
the white dot
atlanta, ga
60min
prince of darkness, cold as ice, make it easier, secure yourself,
up in smoke, pushing the needle too far, summertime, walk away,
from beauty to disaster, land of canaan, mandy, high horse, all
along the watchtower

you'll notice that they are all 60 min tapes except for the purple parrrot
tape which is 90 min.  so go to a record store or kmart kinda place and get
some good blanks.  maxell (black not red) is a good choice.  go to the post
office or maybe you can look in that same kmart kinda place and get some
padded envelopes and some other kind that are not padded.

decide how many of the above tapes you want to get and buy envelopes big
enought to fit your boot appetite.  contact the dubber of your choice (listed
below) and ask for the dubber's address.  ask how many and which of the five
boots listed above the dubber  is willing to make for you.  you may have to
send your blanks to two or maybe three dubbers.

put the requisite numer of blanks in the padded envelope and address the
envelope to yourself.  put the padded envelope in another (not padded)
envelope and address it to the dubber.  take this to the post office and have
it weighed for postage required to get to the dubber.  when that $ number is
established, ask for and  put the same amount of postage on the padded
envelope.  close the outer envelope and send it on its way.

ok, so here are the dubbers who have volunteered to make copies of the boots
for you...i was going to arrange them according to zodiac signs, but we are
going to do an unstructured free-for-all this time :)  anybody you can find
on this list to dub for you--go for it.  and don't necessarily contact the
first one on the list :)  some of these people may be experiencing
semi-finals at the moment or other pressing problems.  try to be patient :)

in australia, contact sherlyn@fl.net.au
in asia, contact ahildago@fc.emc.com.ph

in the us, contact:

mediamongr@aol.com   (lorie)
z956399@oats.farm.niu.edu   (jennifer)
lmayne@u.washington.edu    (lisa)
susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu  (susan)
pooh40@mc.net   (pat)
mjg333@aol.com  (marcy)
inky@expert.cc.purdue.edu   (susan)
doobie@student.umass.edu  (deb)
mmedido@aol.com   (claire)
creechal@aslan.emu.edu    (anna "chickensoprano")
kmcleroy@umich.edu    (karra)
hdtx97a@prodigy.com  (melissa)


i have let each dubber know that if they get entirely snowed under with
requests and another dubber is not available to take up the slack, that i
will always be available to help with dubbing or sending out liners.  in any
case, if you have any comments about the tree, you can contact me at
hunterj1@aol.com   (that's a number one after the j).

later and enjoy!!

jude :)

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date:         wed, 20 nov 1996 11:00:34 -0500
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from:         "keates, harry" <hak@crai.com>
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as long as i'm writing ...

just wanted to let you know of an interesting ig appearence on another
mailing list, and no, it is not the dar list this time.  on the richard
thompson list there was a discussion on good and bad cover songs, and
other related issues.  the example that was discussed throughout the
thread was the ig/ ds versions of romeo & juliet.   and i wasn't even the
one who brought it up (ok, so i was the one who continued the thread, but
still ...)

i have some lyrics that are bothering me too.  in shawn colvin's new song
sunny came home (which i believe is about the sunny that is on this list
since it is about setting a house on fire and sunny sets her pottery on
fire, which is very similar), the main chorus goes:

she says days go by i'm hypnotized
i'm walking on a wire
i close my eyes and fly out of my mind
into the fire

i am pretty certain that all of these lines reference other songs.  i'm
walking on a wire - r. & l. thompson "walking on a wire" /  into the fire
- s. mclachlan "into the fire" /  the third line i am pretty sure is a
paraphrase, though i can't think of the exact line, but the one that is
driving me crazy is the first line.  i know the "days go by .." is taken
from another song and is sung the same, but i can't think of what the
song is or what the rest of the line is.  i think it is something like
"days go by and still i [cry?] ..."

anyone who has an idea, i'd appreciate hearing from you.


oh, and binky is definately a traitwasor  if i ever saw one.  80

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

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subject:      jingle bell jingle bell, jingle bell rock....sigc

ummmm....
you know that same poor hill billy type family???
uh... here's the son's wish list fer x-mas...
( to the tune of land of caanan ) :-)


you can go to the mall
to find the perfect gift this year
you say that money says it best,
don't you realize that that's just weird...
i want a rubber band,
because i have a plan
i want a band o' rubber sweetheart,
so that i can just sit and strum...
chorus: i'm tired o' my spoons
i'm playing them now,
bin' playing for years
and they're just wearin' out
my moonshine jug is cracked for what it's worth,
it's just a soundless thang...
well it really hurts my head, and my ears,
every time i huff and puff and strain...
it's not the stainless steel,
it's not the broken clay,
it's just the need for strummin, sweetheart,
sayin' rubber's the way...
chorus:

peace all... kim ( who promises not to post any more silly stuff for a
while... was just in a mood...) :-)


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"halt!!! we are the fashion police!!!
put your hands in the air and step
away from the clothes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: ok, ok, here's the newbie tree :)
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on wed, 20 nov 1996 hunterj1@aol.com wrote:

<snip>
> 1981
> tuesday's children (studio)
> 60 min
> wysteria, carolina in my mind, jukie's lament, her town too, house
> at pooh corner, danny's song, rock me on the water, father and son,
> come down in time, it's too late, you've got a friend, dancing
> shoes, long ago and far away, leaving ain't fair, a heart in new
> york, tuesday's children      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

isn't this the song which turned up on 1200 curfews as "back together
again"?   is it the same recording?

mat

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subject:      re: blasphemy!!!!

> anyway, i *really* think the term 'conscientious
> objection' is misused here.  she seems to be saying that she's been
> copping-out by not participating - now, 'dodging the draft' is
> commonly used as a derisive term, but my impression of co's is that
> they feel that they sincerely cannot take part in warfare ( the peace-
> loving mahommed ali/cashis clay -

actually, being a co is one of the most commonly used ways to dodge the draft,
but often the army will just make you a medic, like klinger in m.a.s.h.  in
ali's case he was band from boxing for years, while his case was in court,
because noone believed that he really had anything against killing.  the feeling
was that he was in fact just dodging the draft.  only ali really knows.

i think the use of the phrase in the song is correct, the person is not
participating in childish romances because they do not believe in them, "it
isn't love, its only something new." hence they have a co to romance.

trant

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: conscientious objector (sigc)
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on wed, 20 nov 1996, keates, harry wrote:

> >my impression of co's is that they feel that they sincerely cannot take
> >part in warfare ( the peace-loving mahommed ali/cashis clay - i have
> >no idea how to spell his names - aside. : ) }
>
> as for mohammed ali, he is truly a man of peace.  boxing is sport, not
> war.  there is a big difference.  if you want to look at violence in
> sports, look at sports like baseball where players start fights out of
> anger and with the intent to injure others.  ali never fought with anger
> or hatred, except against racism, bigotry, and an unjust war.  he is one
> of the few athletes in our lifetime that is an excellent role model and
> deserves all the love and respect in the world.  if you do not believe
> me, i would recommend reading more about ali, including an upcoming (it
> may be out now)  book he has written himself.

except of course, that boxing can, and frequently cause brain damage and
death.   it may not have happened to anyone ali fought against, but it
certainly happened to ali.   very recently a boxer called gerald (?)
maclellan lost 90% of his sight and hearing after a fight with nigel benn.
the "knockout" is a highly praised objective in a boxing match, yet it
inevitably means some degree of brain damage.   shortly after the last
death in the uk of a middle-weight boxer, a former boxing commentator
wrote in the guardian why he thought the sport should now be banned, ie.
because it had become about a good fight spectacle, not about skill - he
referred to a boxer he had seen early in his career, who could not punch,
but didn't need to because he was so skillful at blocking his opponents'
(which is all very well, i suppose, until you put two such boxers in the
ring together ;) ).   i saw the maclellan-benn fight and i didn't see much
skill, they just looked like two thugs having a brawl in a pub;  that is
what boxing has declined to.   i agree with the commentator who wrote that
article, and i think any boxer (nowadays at least) who calls himself a man
of peace, yet partakes of a sport which could result in killing somebody
seriously needs to rethink his priorities!

as for ali's book, i was under the impression that he was in the advanced
stages of parkinson's disease, ie. severely brain damaged.   how could he
write it?   or did he write it years ago?

mat

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from:         staci robyn <krayola@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      trade offer--closed

if you have not recieved a confirmation message from me yet, then i am
sorry the offer was closed.  i apologize. in a few weeks, i may do this
again.
thanks
staci

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subject:      american journal...still no ig

hi folks,

well, it's wednesday and still no indigo girls. :(  i won't be able to watch
the show on friday, so i won't be able to tell y'all in advance if they're on.
so, they had *better* be on tomorrow, or else i will be one unhappy camper.<g>

joan :)

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subject:      ms. magazine article

hey y'all,

  there's been a lot of talk about ani difranco lately and mention of a
recent article about her in ms. magazine (vol 7 number 3).  i just wanted
to say that this issue also has a great article about cecilia rodriguez who
is the u.s. representative, zapatista national liberation army.  she is
fighting for the indigenous people in chiapas, mexico.  it really is a
despicable situation down there and our government is not helping the
situation (although they tell us they are).
     if any one would like the address of organizations doing work down
there, drop me a line.  :)


                        --sunny

.....now, back to editing that video from upenn 4/19/91 fot otrta

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subject:      levees that break in my heart....???

hello all,

i just got my "levees that break in my heart" cd from rdr and i had
a few questions about the songs on it.  could someone who has it and
can tell about the songs that are covers and by whom.  i'd like to know
more about them and possible dates that they were recorded.  thanks.

take care and peace!

-deb

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dear lorie:

        what a bad time for a newbie to not check email for the whole
weekend!  have i missed out on your offer to tape boots for poor souls?


--mani
                        (think myself into jail.)


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please don't post to the list..e-mail me seperately..i don't want to get
flamed at my old age..
just trying to find our oldest listee sooo..if your;re over 43 ( which
makes you older than me..let me know..
you won't win a prize or anything..it was just a question tossed around..

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on wed, 20 nov 1996, keates, harry wrote:

> as long as i'm writing ...
>
> just wanted to let you know of an interesting ig appearence on another
> mailing list, and no, it is not the dar list this time.  on the richard
> thompson list there was a discussion on good and bad cover songs, and
> other related issues.  the example that was discussed throughout the
> thread was the ig/ ds versions of romeo & juliet.   and i wasn't even the
> one who brought it up (ok, so i was the one who continued the thread, but
> still ...)

who's ds?   dave swarbrick?   (former fairport convention fiddler)

what's the address for this list btw?   is there a digest format too?

mat

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i'm apologizing now for sending the entire list last time. i'm a ditz
sometimes, and i guess i just hit the wrong button on my computer. can any
of you ever forgive me? please? please? i know i deserve to be beaten and
burnt at the stake, but i stand before you, helplkess, begging for
forgiveness. i remain oh, so very sorry...

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*here, take my handkerchief.
never at any crisis in your life,
have i known you to have a handkerchief*

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>> 1981
>> tuesday's children (studio)
>> 60 min
>> wysteria, carolina in my mind, jukie's lament, her town too, house
>> at pooh corner, danny's song, rock me on the water, father and son,
>> come down in time, it's too late, you've got a friend, dancing
>> shoes, long ago and far away, leaving ain't fair, a heart in new
>> york, tuesday's children      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>
>isn't this the song which turned up on 1200 curfews as "back together
>again"?   is it the same recording?

it is the same song and the same recording.

as is the case with the songs on color me grey, with the passage of time and
new information coming to light it sometimes turns out that the titles we
have used for the songs since 1989 (when the early tapes first surfaced
outside of atlanta) are not right.

hope this helps

carolyn

ps - my apologies for my 'color me grey' post showing up on the list again
today,  it was my original that i had sent on the 11th and had given up as
lost in cyberspace.

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subject:      new song titles on red light

hey all,

i was wondering if i could get some clarification.  there are some song
titles of the new songs on the red light cafe boot that at the time it
was made were unconfirmed.  i now know that the proposed "pray my way
through or around it" is actually "cara mia."  but how about "going to the
country" and "for free?"  are these the actual titles, does anyone know?
thanks, they are both emily songs so i'm guilty of not paying close
attention to the real titles. :(  but i would really appreciate if someone
could help me out.  thanks a bunch! :)

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subject:      nigc: need help with couples survey

hi there--

y'all were so nice to carolyn a while back--
if anyone out there is willing to fill out a survey for my poor psychology
student friend, please email me.  she needs women who are in alesbian
relationship.  thank you

inspired by gravity,
linda

        "what a piece of work is man...the paragon of animals; and
        yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? man delights
        not me; nor woman neither..."           --hamlet

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              "hunterj1@aol.com" at nov 20, 96 10:47:13 am

> the setlists for the five tapes offered are:
>
> 1985
> blue food - the dugout, decatur, ga
> 60 min
> if you live like that, crazy game, holy city, weakness in me, never
> stop, peace song, draw the line, nashville, malachy's, everybody's
> waiting (studio), the untitled song, running from the cold, no way
> to treat a friend, i wanna be your lover, american tune

my copy of blue food is missing "everybody's waiting".  since it's also
a studio cut, is there any chance that this was added later?

tom

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tomcat ____     i thought i'd seen someone who seemed at last
       \ _/__   to know the truth
        \\  /   i was mistaken
          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

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date:         wed, 20 nov 1996 15:43:53 -0900
reply-to:     scott m slone <assms6@uaa.alaska.edu>
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from:         scott m slone <assms6@uaa.alaska.edu>
subject:      thank you f/t support!

to everyone,

        thank you all so much for your letters of support, and resources
you offered me.  i recieved many letters of support, due to my hearing
loss.  i wish that i could have found this place sooner, before all this
took place.
        i am making my adjustments and trying to cope, as each day goes
by.  my hearing loss was most likely genitic, because of other hearing
loss in my family.  my love for music will still carry on, and i will
someday get my lyrics recorded.  since it would seem that my opertunity
of ever get to play in public again, is slowly fading, it will hope
that my words, and thoughts, will still get to people.
        i am still looking for possible tour dates in the future, of the
indigo girls comming back to alaska.  i really want to see them again,
and hear them sing.  it scares me this loss,...i can not imagine what
will happen if what little hearing i have left goes.  music, singing,
notes on the guitar....ughh! i crave inside for those, like one does to be
loved.

        thank you all for the letters of support, and the offer to send
me lyrics.  i believe that i will remain here in my new found home, where
people share the same desire for music and the indigo girls words of
inspiration.

bye for now,
scott (in alaska)
assms6@uaa.alaska.edu


        "you can not stay on the summit for ever, you have to come back
        down again. so why bother in the first place?....
        just this..... that what is above knows what is above. that what
        is below knows not what is above"  (french climber -rene'de'mall)

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date:         wed, 20 nov 1996 20:20:16 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
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from:         michael reynolds <asl@umcs.maine.edu>
subject:      wow, actual igc from me!!!

my friend upstairs in my dorm just got 5 tapes from the current year,
bumpershoot, newport, flunkie from 4/24, hte - minneapolis, and santa fe. my
life like, has sucked this entire weekend (almost died -- literally sunday)
my supposed close friend and me parted ways (i actually have very little
resevations about that -- i was, to make it easier to understand "her token
disabled friend" (i just hope she does send the tapes back i left at her
place! my ani collection will never be the same 8^)) my biological dad
refused to see me on my birthday , he was less than a mile from my mom's
house. my life has generally been really lame, but i got 6 episodes of a tv
show i have been dying to see since it started in sept. on tape from a
friend on the list, and i'm getting a tape of the vic chestnutt interview
fedexed to me...i think.

   a few of you may remember my friend bill, the person the ig's deadicated
"ghost" to 0n 4/22/94, first night of so tour. well we had the same birthday
and i got to see his dad on our birthday, it was awesome...i really need to
dub that show on to a cd, i will trade/lend/ pay to have a copy pressed
sometime, i just need some info on how to do it, and i need like 3 discs,
for various reasons.

a few questions:
what is the speech/song amy does as a soc @ bumpershoot, it rocks.


does a tape exist w/out the screaming girl??

if anyone wants to organize a tape tree, email me, i will send the tape for
free, as i thought i would have enough time (and $$ for tapes but my last
blanks are being used right now....) and if someone wants to organize the
alternate demos/study hall tape, i will send it to the for free, but their
name will be postred and the have to figure out how to circulate this tree.

deb and ponygirl -- email me
sunny -- ditto (but not necessarily for the same reasons)


cheers!
mike r.

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from:         allison hastings <alhastings@mindspring.com>
subject:      nigc: melissa etheridge live

hi y'all,
        i know that i'm not the only melissa fan on the list and thought
that i would pass along that she is playinf friday afternoon on 99x here in
atlanta.  i'm going to try to tape it.  i taped the suzanne vega a few
weeks ago and it was pretty cool.  melissa is doing a 30 minute acoustic
set starting at 2:00.  if i get it and it's decent enough to copy, i'll let
you know!

bye,
allison

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reply-to:     chickensoprano <creechal@aslan.emu.edu>
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organization: eastern mennonite university
subject:      boot offer

for the next ten newbies (or otherwise) who email me, i will make a
copy of the chapel hill 11/87 boot.

anna
creechal@aslan.emu.edu

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?"  -jane swan

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subject:      re: nigc: need help with couples survey
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hi linda!

i am happy to help with the couples survey... you can send it to me at
m.paddy@qut.edu.au (not this address if it is an attachment as i won't be
able to read it).

take care,
shelley

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from:         rachael cannon <anaisbleu@aol.com>
subject:      ig on radio!!!

as i was driving to my dance studio for a nutcracker rehearsal monday, i
turned on the radio. . . as i tried to find some decent music, what should i
hear on a very mainstream pop/rock radio station-- none other than joking!!!!
it's the first time in a long while that i've heard ig on any station-- even
the "college radio" station, so it made my day (not to mention that later on,
i heard tori amos on the same station!)!
:-)

-rachael

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i've always thought mystery was about a lover, too, but maybe someone who
the "i" in the song is in love with, but who doesn't return the same
emotions:

"my heart the red sun, your heart the moon clouded"

maybe a love that is dying, or a love that could never be.  i also think
of it maybe as someone who flirts with you but doesn't want anything
serious "why do you spend this time with me"

anyway, this is how i relate to it, in regards to the same person i
related ghost to: the girl from camp who's already attached.  *sigh*....

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                __-----__o
               /       o \
              |      woo  |             marianne l. barlow
              (     a     )             mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
              |     |\    |
               \__  | |__/        "i'll be the first to praise the sun,
                  ~~|  >           the first the praise the moon,
                   .===.           the first to hold the lone coyote,
                   |\ /|           the last to set it free."
                   | ' |   |\            --indigo girls
                  _|    \_/  |
                 (____)_____/
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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subject:      where's dmon?

hi y'all--i am currently unsubscribed from the
list due to being on extended vacation.  i did
have a very quick question though.  can those
who have been on the list for awhile please
tell me if they have heard from our old friend
julie meloni.  she has been absent for a long while.
        i recall her saying she would be off the list
and selling all of her boots, but was wondering if
anyone knew what happened to her.  she was quite a
good source of information.  unless maybe she is lurking.
you can let me know privately becasue i am unsubscribed.

thanks a lot.

greg

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