lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-11d

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date:         thu, 21 nov 1996 01:04:32 -0500
reply-to:     deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         deb odonoghue <doobie@student.umass.edu>
subject:      correction on newbie boot offer

hello all,

i have been getting a lot of requests about the newbie boot offer that
jude posted about and wanted to let everyone know that i am not going
to be able to make it on that tree. hopefully you can get in touch with
someone else who can get you the boots you want. sorry about that.

take care and peace!

-deb

mandi!!! please email me! thanks! --sundara

hey everyone!

okay, i finished the map compilation tape this afternoon, so i will start
taping and sending them out tomorrow. :)

i decided on the name mapped.  i'm still not sure why. i just liked the way
is sounds.  but it was hard to decide, you all came up with a lot of good
suggestions.  so thanks!  one of my personal favorites was "trying to
refold the map"  hee hee.

so here is the final list of what's on it.  i chose these versions based on
sound quality and how dynamic the performance was.  quite a few of the
songs are on it 2 or 3 times.  i did this if i had two or more good
versions of a song, especially if one was a radio broadcast.  also,  i
tried to include early and later versions of certain songs to show the
evolution of it over the course of the tour, esp shame on you, dgtgag, and
get out the map.  on some of the songs, i chose the version cause of that
specific show, like i had to put hey kind friend from bumbershoot on, cause
amy wrote it partly about the northwest, so i wanted a northwest
performance.  leeds isn't the best version i have,  but it's an amazing
performance cause you can hear the rain and thunder in the background, it
gives me shivers.  and, this may be cheesy, but i really don't care,  i
threw in some of the funny things they said  (like the moon comment at
bumbershoot)  these comments weren't before a song i was using, but they
make me smile, so i wanted to put them on.  i hope no one minds.  i ended
up putting way more thought into this then i thought i would, and i'm
really happy with the results.  everything sounds great, and the copies you
all will be getting have very little sound quality loss.  i hope you all
enjoy it!

side one:

it's alright, minneapolis  9/20
don't give that girl a gun, seattle, wa 8/31
winthrop, austin, 8/20/96
get out the map  new orleans jazz fest.  5/4
remember everything i told you  santa fe  8/25
hey kind friend,  seattle, wa  8/31
shame on you,  nojf  5/4
dgtgag, minneapolis  9/20
it's alright  philly's y100  8/16
chiapas bound, santa fe 8/25

side two:

get out the map  world cafe radio 7/10
cut it out  hampton beach, nh  8/12
cara mia  mesa, az  8/26
chiapas bound, newport folk fest.  8/11
leeds, santa fe  8/25
dgtgag, world cafe 7/10
get out the map, minneapolis,  9/20
shame on you, santa fe  8/25
closer to fine, nojf  5/4

again, it's a 90 minute tape, and if anyone who hasn't contacted me, and
wants a copy, email me and i'll send you the info on how to get it :)

peace, love, and susan
sundara, the purple princess

"you sure do get a lot of packages..."

-my mailman

jude is our goddess! jude is our savior! all hail! :)

i'm a dumb ass, i din't pay attention when she posted that she was doing
this in the first place. so to all of you who have been false-alarmed
into frenzy because so many boot offers have opened and closed in the last
few days: here is your big chance! i was organizing a small tree for the
two tapes i was offering,but this is better so scratch that.

i myself will probably get a few of these tapes that are missing from my
collection. :) and i am certain that the generation loss on these dubs
are way less than on mine.

*************************************************************************
"lighten up, francis."
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/notime1/home.htm

hey, that's *absolutely* no ig content,

harry wrote harry wrote:   >maureen magically manages to foul-up
cutting and pasting<
    anyway, he wrote something about boxing and stuff and, although i
value his opinion and appreciate his response to my post, i humbly
request that *anyone* who recognizes boxing as a noble 'sport',
rethink their position.  boxing is the *only* so-called 'sport' in
the world that has as it's *goal* causing significant injury to
another human being.  in the case of a 'knock-out', as i think trant
mentioned, that injury is a clinically apparent concussion.  why two
men beating each other senseless in a confined space is considered a
sport, i don't know.
      regarding m. ali (clever spell avoidance manuvuer) being a man
of peace or not, i don't know.  i only mentioned a professional boxer
claiming co status as an example of irony - ironic mainly because of
my view of boxing as outlined above.  ali certainly seems pretty
docile to me, but then he's kinda had that beaten into him.  : )
seriously, though, i don't doubt that men like ali, tyson, and
holyfield are fine atheletes but boxing itself is not noble in any
way.  which is not to say that i wasn't curious about who won the
holyfield/tyson fight and that i haven't watched a fight or two
myself, but i've also driven an automobile when i was drunk and
that's hardly a noble activity.
      boxing is violence and violence only.  violence begets violence.

ha! sorry, harry, i'm not trying to flame you. i'm just hoping to
convince someone, anyone, who casually accepts what is piped into
their homes through the tv to stop and re-evaluate what they are
watching.
peace always maureen

____
remember peace maureen

deb wrote:

i just got my "levees that break in my heart" cd from rdr and i had
a few questions about the songs on it.  could someone who has it and
can tell about the songs that are covers and by whom.  i'd like to know
more about them and possible dates that they were recorded.  thanks.

what is this cd?? is it a new boot cd? tell me more! tell me more!!

--rob

>my copy of blue food is missing "everybody's waiting". since it's also
>a studio cut, is there any chance that this was added later?

the studio version of 'everbody's waiting' was on the original 'blue food',
a lot of people i knew usually cut the song because it was just enough to
make it not fit on a sixty minute tape, and cleaner versions were available
from the crazy game 45.

carolyn

hey ya'll.....

ok, so if i open up my so vinyl to determine the color, does it depreciate
in value because it isn't sealed in the original plastic?

and hey pooh, how's the snow!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

love and peace to all-

karrie, who is only up because melissa etheridge was on sesame street this
morning!!

and for those of us not in atlanta, 99x puts it's audio stream
under real audio. something to think about.

forwarded message:
>
> hi y'all,
>         i know that i'm not the only melissa fan on the list and thought
> that i would pass along that she is playinf friday afternoon on 99x here in
> atlanta.  i'm going to try to tape it.  i taped the suzanne vega a few
> weeks ago and it was pretty cool.  melissa is doing a 30 minute acoustic
> set starting at 2:00.  if i get it and it's decent enough to copy, i'll let
> you know!
>
> bye,
> allison

--
jim fagan | aix apar regression test technical lead | fagan@austin.ibm.com
t/l 678-2458 | austin, texas | fagan@austin

hello everyone!

i just wanted to let the asian listers know that there was a slight error in
the spelling of my e-mail address in the post jude made about the newbie boot
tree. if anyone wants to get in touch with me to get your copies of these
tapes, here is the address:

ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph

a big thanks to jude for setting this up ...

anna

hey y'all,

   that compilation video i have been working on for the list is finally done!
it's almost exactly 2 hours long.  i wanted to go 3 hours long, but i found
the quality really degenerated when i went into slp or lp.  the video is
entitled
on the road to austin. what's on it?  here's a full listing:

holy city from decateur on the square 5/9/87
lifeblood from same
secure yourself from athens music show 1/26/89
prince of darkness from night music
strange fire from same
crazy game from the real story
cold as ice from late night atlanta
welcome me from same
love's discovery from upenn 4/19/91
pushin' the needle too far from same
crazy game from same
no way to treat a friend from same
hammer and a nail from arts & entertainment revue
in the bleak midwinter from same
southland in the springtime from the full moon show-japan
welcome me from same
everything's alright from jcs in atlanta 11/27/94
dead man's hill from radio city music hall, nyc 6/28/94
power of two from same
reunion from same
language or the kiss from same
fugitive from the knitting factory 6/30/94
mystery from same
lincoln duncan from same
for free from same
bury my heart at wounded knee from 1200 curfews promo
bmhawk video
get out the map from atlanta gay pride 6/30/96
and other excerpts from 1200 curfews promo

     i am still looking for a few more video dubbers.  if you have the
ability and are willing to help get this out to the list, please drop me a
line.  as soon as i get the tree part organized i will post instructions to
the list.
    my goal is that people will be getting their videos by christmas.

happy holidays everybody. :)

--sunny,
giving thanks to the indigo girls

ps. remember, this is bootleg video so the quality is not quite the same
as live at the uptown loung or watershed, but i still think it's good.

according to the rock on tv site on the web, me is schduled to be on
vh-1 storytellers this sunday at 10:00 p.m.

i saw the ray davies and elvis costello shows and they were really
interesting.

just thought some of you might be interested. : )

harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

hi!
i posted a coupla days ago, and haven't gotten any responses...
maybe my idea has been discussed before, and everyone is tired of it.
well, here's my post again, in case you did miss it!

hey!
which song snippits make the best wav files and how have you associated them
with your computer functions?
i have "all skate, now reverse" associated with "file's done".
let's hear you ideas and maybe trade some wavs!

that's it!
thanks fer yer time!
~~robin

here's my perception of mystery, you can take it or leave it as you
choose...it's really up to you.

i always saw it as a love song, for two people that just kind of stumbled
into it, and now they're wondering how and why they fell in love. it's all
so new and strange and odd, that they just can't comprehend it. hence, the
mystery. and because it's so new, they don't know how to deal with all of
the quirks of being in love, so *maybe that's all that we need is to met
in the middle of impossibility*

the way i look at it, this has always been the quintessal first love song.
it's a song that when you hear it, you think back to that one time that
you fell in love, and you didn't know what you were doing, but you were
happy nonetheless. when it was all new and strange, and it colored the
everyday workings of life with some strange new fire. do any of you
understand what i mean by that?

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*first we take manhattan,
then we take berlin...*

oh no..would whomever set up this tree ( i forgot) contact me..i'm the
cancer branch booter..

well, no ig on today's episode either. it seems that the dominant theme
today is "baywatch" *rolling eyes around*
if ig are on tomorrow, i will cry, 'cause i won't be able to come home
for lunch tomorrow. :(

peace and tv programming with *substance* <g>

joan :)

well apparently you have to be michael jackson or oj or pamela anderson to
be on aj. i actually don't know if i could watch an ig story in between an
oj story and another all-access michael jackson story.... okay i could.
but when will that be?

at least ani was on last night. her hair was cuter when i saw her in salt
lake though. :)

corinne

hi all,
        i'm a definite newbie to the list, two weeks ago i didn't even
know that boots of ig was commonplace and accepted by amy and emily - let
alone considered legal.  yes, my ignorance on this subject is apparent.
i don't know the protocols for a "boot tree" or even how to get on one.
(but if any wonderful listperson would care to enlighten me, hey, my ears
are itchin'.)
        i'm responding to kristina's msg about getting blanks for boots.
she seemed to be  taken aback that someone was requesting a 3:1 ratio.
(ok i admit that i'm green, but i'm assuming that means the person wants
3 blanks for 1 copy of a boot, right?  ta da) kristina was even a little
perturbed that a person was asking for blanks at all. i think that
3:1 is a bit overboard too, but a 1:1 ratio doesn't seem unfair.  if a
person is going to take the time to make the tapes and mail them... i
don't know, but i think the person asking for the tapes might even pay
for the postage of getting them.  that wouldn't be unfair in my mind...
        if this idea is a completely un-heard-of practice in "bootland"
will someone let me know?  i don't want to step on the toes of any boots
or "get the boot" of any chances that i might get future boots.  don't
think that i'm just bootlicking by saying this, either.  anyhow, this
newbie would be eternally grateful for any feedback ya'll care to send.

thanks,
allison

   did anyone see ani last night on conan o'brien?  i actually had some
mixed feelings about the performence!  although she was awesome as usual
she cut out some of the lyrics in "shameless" like"......i have to cover
my butt cause' i covet another man's wife." was ani forced to cut those
lyrics or is she *gasp* selling out a little?
    anyway, this was also the first time i sat through a whole conan
show. he's actually kinda funny. he reminds me of what letterman used to
be until he switched to cbs and became popular.
that's all.
ben

hi again allison-

bootleg trading is, for the most part, a subjective experience and people
have all sorts of differences. different lists also have different
expectations. however, on this list, the general rules are as follows:

if you don'th ave anything to trade and some kind soul is willing to make
copies for you, what you do is this.  you send them a padded envelope, a
blank tape of the correct length, enough postage to cover them mailing it
back to you, and also put your address on the padded envelope.  you put
all this in a larger envelope, with a note reminding them which boot you
are requesting (very important), and wait.  if it takes them a few weeks,
don't panic, cause lot's of people have lots of dubbing to do.  i usually
let three or four weeks go by before i write and nag.

also, you want to make sure you use the right kind of tapes.  the most
prefered tapes are maxell xlii or tdk-sa.  they are better quality tapes
by far.  some folks use other brands like sony and such, but only a few
and no one really knows why.  other folks use lesser quality tapes, but
that can pose problems in actual trading.  still others use the next grade
up, maxell has released some new fancy schmancy new kind, but it's more
expensive and still not available everywhere.  people who use it will
almost always be happy with xliis.

if trading bootlegs:

first, negotiate the trade over e-mail.  you write someone and say i have
such and such boots, or post to the list i'm looking for such and such or
whatever, and people respond.  you can work out an even trade, or trade
one tape for blanks and sase, or whatever.  it's really fun once you get
started, and then what happens is you make your copy of the tape and send
it to them, on a good quality tape, of course, and they make theirs and
send it to you. most people, again, try to complete most trades within
three weeks or so, but sometimes people's lives intervene (like mine is
presently).

a few common errors to avoid:

failing to send postage, asking for a 2:1 ratio (people get really wacked
about that on this list, whereas other lists it's normal), neglecting to
include a note reminding what boot you're asking for, failing to use
padded envelopes.

people on this list, and in the trading community generally, are
incredibly sweet. i've only encountered one person whose really bugged
me, but i'll refrain from pointing fingers, and i've traded upwards of 50
tapes.

good luck and have fun!
chris

on thu, 21 nov 1996, e.allison smith wrote:

> hi all,
>         i'm a definite newbie to the list, two weeks ago i didn't even
> know that boots of ig was commonplace and accepted by amy and emily - let
> alone considered legal.  yes, my ignorance on this subject is apparent.
> i don't know the protocols for a "boot tree" or even how to get on one.
> (but if any wonderful listperson would care to enlighten me, hey, my ears
> are itchin'.)
>         i'm responding to kristina's msg about getting blanks for boots.
> she seemed to be  taken aback that someone was requesting a 3:1 ratio.
> (ok i admit that i'm green, but i'm assuming that means the person wants
> 3 blanks for 1 copy of a boot, right?  ta da) kristina was even a little
> perturbed that a person was asking for blanks at all. i think that
> 3:1 is a bit overboard too, but a 1:1 ratio doesn't seem unfair.  if a
> person is going to take the time to make the tapes and mail them... i
> don't know, but i think the person asking for the tapes might even pay
> for the postage of getting them.  that wouldn't be unfair in my mind...
>         if this idea is a completely un-heard-of practice in "bootland"
> will someone let me know?  i don't want to step on the toes of any boots
> or "get the boot" of any chances that i might get future boots.  don't
> think that i'm just bootlicking by saying this, either.  anyhow, this
> newbie would be eternally grateful for any feedback ya'll care to send.
>
>
>                                         thanks,
>                                                 allison
>
> --
> administrative requests should not be sent to the list!
> to unsubscribe, send email to listserv@netspace.org
>         with the line: signoff indigo-girls
>

well, there are those who may think ani is a sell-out for not singing the
"cover my butt cuz i covet another man's wife" part last night on conan.
but the truth probably is that she had to fit shameless into the time
limits. so something had to go...  and if anyone thinks ani is becoming a
sell-out, they should read the article on her in the latest "ms." magazine.
i was much more in love with her after i read that.  she is just doing her
own thing like always.  she rules.  two posts in one day for the
indomitable corinne....

on thu, 21 nov 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> did anyone see ani last night on conan o'brien? i actually had some
> mixed feelings about the performence! although she was awesome as usual
> she cut out some of the lyrics in "shameless" like"......i have to cover
> my butt cause' i covet another man's wife." was ani forced to cut those
> lyrics or is she *gasp* selling out a little?

i don't think she's selling out necessarliy.  she also did not sing that
part of the song at smith tuesday night, where they certainly wouldn't
bother anybody(:  but i was a little weirded out by the light show,
mega-speakers, and an appearance on a talk show.  (and that is my
favorite part of the song):...)  oh well.  she's still ani.

jennie

****************************
"i am a work in progress..."
-ani

>is this 10:00 eastern time???

oopps.  being the egocentric (geocentric?) eastcoaster that i am, i
didn't even look.
please don't yell at me tig, or pooh,  or eyeore for that matter (ok,
i've been wanting to say that for a while)  : )

checking it now .... yes, it says edt. by the way, this rock on tv site
is pretty neat. it's at:

http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/

and, for those of you who prefer tori to melissa, her unplugged show is
on mtv at 9:30. throw in james taylor on vh-1 archives at 9:30 and
betty carter on cbs sunday morning, and its not a bad day for music on
tv.

: )
harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

okay, there are at least 10 newbies out there who don't have the
chapel hill boot! sorry to all of you who weren't the first ten, but
there are plenty of boot offers right now, and who knows, perhaps
some other kind soul will copy it for you.

anna

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?" -jane swan

on thu, 21 nov 1996, ben wrote:

> did anyone see ani last night on conan o'brien?

<with arms frantically waiving in the air> me!!

i didn't know if i would be able to make it through today since i had
to stay up so late to see it, but it was worth it.

> although she was awesome as usual
> she cut out some of the lyrics in "shameless" like"......i have to cover
> my butt cause' i covet another man's wife."

didn't notice at the time, but this morning i was thinking about the
show and wondering if she had sung those lyrics. at the time, i was
too entranced by the fact that i could actually see her (and not the
back of some stupid girl trying to balance herself on the arm-rests
of a seat and dance at the same time...grrr...) was it just me, or
did she seem a little tense?

> was ani forced to cut those lyrics or is she *gasp* selling out a little?

ani? sell out? in the same sentence? stay away from electrical
appliances and water for a while lest you be struck with lightening
and harm somebody!

anna

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?" -jane swan

i've received a few responses to my post and have replied by private
email with an often long winded response, but i wanted to drop a short
note to the list about one part of it. if anyone wants to hear my long
winded response, let me know and i will be happy to send it along through
private email. : )

if you are not interested in this, please feel free to delete, and i am
sorry to waste your time. : )

the intention of my post was to discuss my feelings as a conscientious
objector to the lyrics of least complicated and to whether ali was honest
in his beliefs, not to defend boxing in general.   to be honest, i am not
now a boxing fan, and i would agree with just about everything that mat
said about it.  i was a fan of ali's though, and continue to be. i would
not say the same for other boxers, such as mike tyson, who i do believe
to be a violent person.  i will stand by what i said about boxing being
different than war as well as what i would argue are more violent acts in
other sports, for which i used  brawls that take place in baseball games
as an example.  (this is where the long winded part would come in ; ) )

what i wanted to respond to is this:
>i'm just hoping to convince someone, anyone, who casually accepts
>what is piped into their homes through the tv to stop and re-evaluate
>what they are watching

i am a pacifist and extremely committed to my beliefs.  trust me, i have
thought a great deal about this.  i do not take any issue involving
violence lightly.  it is possible for a pacifist to participate in, or
watch,  contact sports without compromising their beliefs.

> boxing is violence and violence only. violence begets violence.

as far as violence begetting violence, i agree  but, in the context of
what is piped into our homes, i think that movies and television shows
that portray violence out of hatred or anger, violence as humorous,  or
cold hearted violence,  beget violence far more than a sport such as
boxing.

ok, that's enough. if you have additonal comments, please feel free to
direct them to me through personal email. the practice of pacifism in
the real world is a subject that i never tire talking about.

>ha! sorry, harry, i'm not trying to flame you.
no need to apologize, reallly. i totally understand your viewpoint.

peace, : )
harry a. keates
email: hak@crai.com

is this 10:00 eastern time???

> according to the rock on tv site on the web, me is schduled to be on
> vh-1 storytellers this sunday at 10:00 p.m.

<< i always saw it as a love song, for two people that just kind of stumbled
into it, and now they're wondering how and why they fell in love. it's all
so new and strange and odd, that they just can't comprehend it. hence, the
mystery. and because it's so new, they don't know how to deal with all of
the quirks of being in love, so *maybe that's all that we need is to met
in the middle of impossibility* >>

that's funny i always saw it as a paen to a couple who had been through a few
things (the pirate and the girl), found themselves quite different (you're
heart the red sun, my heart...), and finally agree to disagree but to "meet
in the middle of impossiblity."

of course that would be because my description is definitive of my reality.

michelle

ok...well, i haven't been keeping up on the list lately.how do i get a
copy of the 2 hour dubbed ig video? i guess i need an address to send a
blank tape to? do i need to send a sase envelope with postage? please let
me know...it sounds like a terrific video. thanks for the info!
onna

hello, and  congrad's on gettting them almost complete!  i was woundering
if the video's arclosed captioned for the hearing impared?   wow  if so
this would be great for me!  if not oh well (smile)  thought i would ask
again.

thank's scott (in alaska)
assms6@uaa.alaska.edu

i am very interested in knowing how to do this also-- anyone w/ helpful info,
please email me!

thanks,
rachael

hey kind friends...

i want one!!! ohhhh. what i meant to say was: i would really like to be
part of the vid tree. would anyone be so kind as to tell me how?

thanks,
stephen

contact me ( the cancer branch ) quick!!
please

hey, that video sounds great. i'd love to become part of the tree for
one. can anyone let me know any information about it?
greatly appreciated

suzanne

i have put my tape list up on a web page, and am looking to trade for indigo
girls tapes that i do not have. if you get a chance check it out and if you
have something i don't and see something you would like to have drop me an
email and we will see what we can work out.

*please note*
in the past i have dubbed onto blanks for those who do not have anything to
trade, but right now i am not able to, so please do not send me any requests
of that nature. what i am doing instead is continuing a process of
providing seed tapes to people who are going to set up trees and try to get
as many of the shows in circulation as possible. your patience is appreciated

the page is at:
http://rampages.onramp.net/~underdog/

thanks

carolyn

hey everyone! just a really quick question for you all:

i'm looking for the url for the ig faq. i have a recent
update (thanks to stacy!) but i have a friend who wants the most recent
version possible, etc. etc.

okay, if anyone has it, please send it to me (privately, of course).

thanks!

"if you think you know the answer, you've got a lot of gall."

hello go-heads and
assorted other tasty treats,

okay, we've been over and over this issue and i think it might be a good idea
to try to bring some closure to it. allison et al. want to know "what's the
crime in asking for extra tapes for dubbing bootlegs?"

there is no crime per se, but we have two camps on this list: those who expect
or ask for blanks, and those (like me and others) who don't.

thos who ask for tapes are not immoral, wretched, nasty human beings. i would
suggest, however, that asking for extra tapes for dubbing is a form of payment,
and personally, i find that to be in conflict with emily and amy's specific
statement that they don't mind if people copy bootlegs as "long as people
aren't making money off of it" (or somehting to that effect). a tape is a
negligible amount of payment, but it is payment just the same.

i don't ask for tapes, and it ain't because i am holier than thou, a great
generous person, or a martyr. its because i am opposed to taking payment...and
because when i was a newbie and starting to collect stuff, very few people
expected me to send them extra tapes. i said to myself in those early days "i'm
gonna return that favor to others someday"....ergo, not asking for extra tapes.

i do always think its fair to ask for a blank of appropriate length, and an
sase. a nice note inside the envelope brightens my day. and sometimes, really
cool people like karra in michigan send a piece of yummy godiva chocolate
along, or a nifty keychain like mj, etc. that's a nice touch, and much
appreciated....certainly never expected or asked for!

so, can we end the debate? pleeeassse? you can ask for extras if you want. i
would suggest its unfair and profit-oriented, but that's just me. do what the
dubber wants, but remember there are oodles of us who dub for free cos it was
done for us.

done with today's diatribe :)

susan

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"there's nothing like seeing your own history in the faces of your friends"

-ani difranco

november 22
reb22@hermes.com.ac.uk (rachael e. bradley)
happy birthday, rachael!!
well i woke up this morning, gray dawn, with a prayer on my breath.
see i'd lost something precious, god o save me, from losing myself.
i said i think i know what's wrong...

november 23
rcn@prcn.org (kim fischer)
happy birthday, goddess!!
are you on fire, from the years
what would you give for your kid fears?

rcgs1123@aol.com (rena)
happy birthday, rena!!
who is to blame when my heart finally forfeits to a road that will only
destroy you?
well did you try to be true?
what separates me from you now?

november 24
vmenanteau@aol.com (erika menanteaux)
happy 19th!!
my blood is runnin' dry, my skin is
my skin is growin' thin.
for every time you find yourself
you lose a little bit of me, from within...

michalack@nku.edu (andrew michalack)
happy 23rd!!
here is, here is my love and anger,
you see now, these are my gods, these are my scars
lift me through my love and anger
well these arms are burnin'
but they're open wide...

have an indigo year!

my, the bg is in a bit of a mood today, isn't she.  apologies to anyone
trying to be cheerful.  it's freezing outside, and the bg had a little
incident yesterday, guess it's still bugging her.  she's very grateful for
this safe space of the list, for making her feel better whenever she needs
a lift.
everybody have a good weekend!

on tue, 19 nov 1996, mrs. dalloway wrote:

> hello.  i am writing this letter with great sadness in my heart and my
> fingertips, and i am feeling such a sense of alienation right now.  today,
> at my university, the executive committe on the women's climate voted to
> change the "women's studies" program to "women and gender studies" in
> order to boost enrollment (ie get more men into the classes)  the problem
> with this is that they have no mission statement, have made no guarentees
> as to whether or not feminist professors will be teaching the class, and
> told us that you cannot just take women's studies courses in order to get
> a w.s. minor, you must also take gender studies courses.  my problem is
> that i have been taught in a patriarchal system for 21 years, and these
> women's studies courses were the first to focus on women, and their
> validation.  i belong to an organization called "sisters", and today my
> sister told me that "the women on this campus have been academically raped
> and the program designed to validate them murdered."  i have not felt such
> a strong sense of bonding with my sisters in a very long time.  the
> problem is, the meeting that took place today was supposed to be closed,
> they didn't let any students know about it.  when we told them it was
> unfair that we didn't find out about it until the day of the final vote, i
> was told, "even thought the students at the university are the
> 'customers', you come to us so that we can tell you what you need.  we are
> the facilitators of knowledge, not you."   i can tell you, at 21, after
> being a strong feminist for about 7 years (when i first heard ig and
> learned about virginia woolf, sylvia plath, anne sexton, charlotte
> perkins-gilman, etc)  i know what i need to learn, and i don't need anyone
> to tell me what my needs are as a student.  the administration coated the
> decision by reiterating that it is "just a name change" but i know hidden
> agendas exist for all those involved.  we as students don't want to accept
> the name because we don't want to comply and condone what they are doing
> to our program.  the only three women there who voted for the program to
> stay "women's studies" were all minorities, and could see what we were
> saying.  tears are rolling now.  the patriarchial-alpha male types at our
> university have already taken so much funding and options away from us
> that we are being driven down.  we all wore black to the meeting
> symbolizing the fact that the administration sees us as invisible.  they
> don't want to acknowledge the fact that we are strong feminists with our
> own agenda.  "it's just a name change" keeps echoing in my head.  i guess
> we just have to refocus and begin fighting all over again.  i have written
> an obituary for the women's studies program that i hope to publish in the
> school newspaper.  the hardest part about all of this is that there was
> only one man at the meeting, but it was still so hegemonic...still so "we
> know what's good for you".  god, they treated us like children.  it's so
> hard to meet women who are not feminists and think they know what's good
> for you.

well i think before you complain about the apparent course change, you
should look at the syllabus and who they plan to actually allow to teach
on it.   it could well be just a name change.   and what is wrong with
broadening the audience anyway?   what is wrong with broadening the
course, for that matter?   do we teach welsh history exclusively from the
point of nationalists like gwynfor evans and saunders lewis?   no!   do we
teach middle eastern / islamic history from the point of view of islamic
fundamentalists?   of course not (not in the west anyway).   why should
any social science be taught *exclusively* from an ideological point of
view?

but then, if you really want to preserve this course, i suggest that you
stop moping around in black and get your union (or whatever your
equivalent is) to either take action to demand that this course is
preserved, or seek some assurances that the content of the course won't be
toned down to suit the 'patriarchal-alpha male types' who apparently run
your university. and if your union is as careerist and corrupt as some
of ours are, maybe you and your 'sisters' could get rid of some of the
careerists and make it work for you?

mat

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adverts and junkmail will be read for 500 pounds sterling per item;
sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

so i'm very upset that there were barely any responses to my last trivia
question. did all of you not know the answer, or did you just not feel
like replying to this one?

the question was:
what voice parts were a&e in their elementary school choir?

the popular answer was that a was an alto, & that e was a soprano. but
that would be the obvious answer, & trivia questions never have obvious
answers. :)

jen & marianne were the only one who really got it right.  audrey got it
right too, but only b/c i told her a few weeks ago.  sharon &
twb@zycor.lgc.com get prizes for effort.  oh, and bebop gets the special
prize b/c her mind is in the gutter... ;)

yay!!! congratulations everyone...

andi

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                              andrea lipman
                      e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
               homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

        "see i heard you were free or someone thought you should be
                   and i know just how that feels."-ar
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okay, i feel stupid now. sorry, i forgot to post the answers to the trivia
question! they were both altos! sorry about that... :)

andi

        "see i heard you were free or someone thought you should be
                   and i know just how that feels."-ar
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hey there! i was just listening to botby, which i haven't listened to in
months, and was wondering what everyone's favorite track was from it. don't
ask me why. it's just another weird thought from me. mine is a tie between
left me a fool and you and me of the 10,000 wars. i just love em's vocals on
those two songs. she sounds like she's really into them emotionally. i also
love the crowd participation bits in kid fears and pod. makes me feel like
i'm there even more so than galileo and ctf from 1200 curfews. i'm also
beginning to like all along the watchtower a bit more. i didn't like it at
first for some reason. i've always liked the dylan version better. i used to
think amy was just screaming her way through it. now it just sounds better
to me for some reason. have no idea why. anyhow, i'm gonna quit rambling
now. y'all tell me what you think about the album.

jendy (who is actually going to get some work done, even though it's a
friday afternoon and she feels like doing otherwise)

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"nature, mr. alnutt, is what we are put in this world to rise above."

-katharine hepburn

at 02:30 pm 11/22/96 -0500, jendy wrote:
>i was just listening to botby, which i haven't listened to in
>months, and was wondering what everyone's favorite track was from it.
my runner up favorite on there is lmaf, but my absolute favorite is
kidfears, because of the powerful rush n' shivers i get when the audience
starts to sing along during the chorus... mmmmm...love that:-)
peace y'all... kim
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"don't tell me i'm burning the candle
at both ends... tell me where to get
more wax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-------<justkim>rcn@prcn.org----------
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

i have a copy of a song wendy bucklew played, but i don't have the name
of it, and i'm dying to know. i don't know if she wrote it or if it's a cover.
the lyrics are something like:

you were out like a light
and i watched you sleeping
wonder where you went
it seemed such a long time ago that you let me in
see if it was sacred....
and you say go and play, go and play
if i never did nothing wrong then why would you leave
if i never did nothing wrong then you would have stayed

does anyone know the name of this song?? and, does anyone have the
complete lyrics??

any help would be greatly appreciated.

sorry about the nigc, y'all, but i need to sell my me ticket because i
just decided to go home for christmas.  it's for her show at the la
sports arena (in los angeles) on december 22nd at 7:30.  it's a first
balcony seat rightt in front of the stage.  the ticket cost me $50 plus
a $7 convenience charge, which is what i'm selling it for.  and
besides, you get to sit next to my lovely girlfriend and her best
friend.  so, if anyone's interested, you can email me at
stankul@ix.netcom.com or sharney@javanet.com.  thanks, and take care
y'all!
sue

sorry for the nigc post, y'all, but i was wondering if anyone out there
knew where the stage for the la sports arena show was going to be? i can't
find anyone who knows, and i want to know if my ticket is really really
good or really really bad....it's in arena area 8 (right under the basket
the clippers are always missing...just an opinion there, don't flame me for
it). but it's row 6, right at the end of the arena...anyone? anyone? i'm
insanely curious!

=),
sherri

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if all the world's a stage, where the hell is my spotlight?

- cole porter
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<jennifer haejin kim <jkim12@sph.emory.edu> wrote:>
>
>i have a copy of a song wendy bucklew played, but i don't have the name
>of it, and i'm dying to know.  i don't know if she wrote it or if it's a cover.
>the lyrics are something like:
> [..snip....]
>
>does anyone know the name of this song?? and, does anyone have the
>complete lyrics??
>
i believe that is "porch song".  (seems like i remember that this was
written for/in memory of a relative.  grandmother maybe?)

its on the _true story_ benifit cd released in 1994.

(if you want a copy of the wendy bucklew discography, let me know.)

--
think peace.
- alan (alanf@dorje.com) http://www.dorje.com:8080/~alanf
kotbbbb (1988 gsxr1100j) racebike (ft500) dod# 4210 pgp key available

on fri, 22 nov 1996, you wrote:

>i have put my tape list up on a web page, and am looking to trade for indigo
>girls tapes that i do not have. if you get a chance check it out and if you
>have something i don't and see something you would like to have drop me an
>email and we will see what we can work out.

yeah carolyn, this will happen - not ;) ;) ;)

i was surprised that i didn't see:

august 16, 1992
my house
where i live
0:36 seconds
amy leaving a message on my answering machine

honestly, the only people who could possible have something you don't are a
& e!!!

i hope you know i'm just teasing you! ;) good luck in your quest!

betsy

ps: it was cool of you to put your list out there. its a handy reference .

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..you see turning off the light switch is their only power
      when we stand like spotlights in a mighty tower
                       all for one and one for all
                    then we sing the common call.....
                                                             e. saliers
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i apologize to all you nice digest people for my nigc, i'll try to keep it
brief.
about 6 months ago i went down to tower and got ani's "like i said" cuz i
hadn't heard her yet, and they didn't have anything more recent of hers,
and there were so many raves about her on this list...well, i gave it one
spin and i hated it!  can you believe it?  then a few weeks ago i got
dilate, to give her one more try; taped it onto one side of a cassette and
put 'like i said' on the other side, so i could listen in my car.  a week
went by, then two...and i can't get myself to take it out of the cassette
deck.  i managed to do one morning commute to honor1, but then i had to
put her back in...i'm an ani junkie.
i know, i probably need the ani list for this lament, but i feel better
divulging this to my ig friends than looking like an idiot to the ani list
(which i am not on).  maybe i need 12 step too; but ani is still stuck in
my car, and not even a new copy of atlanta pride (thanks sue!) could wrest
her from my sony.  i even have to type to the beat of amazing grace, and i
do this weird cypress-hill-looking dance in the car when outta me onto you
comes on...shrinking back to my corner now...

in a message dated 96-11-22 14:43:24 est, you write:

<< all along the watchtower a bit more. i didn't like it at
first for some reason. i've always liked the dylan version better. i used to
think amy was just screaming her way through it. now it just sounds better
to me for some reason. have no idea why. >>

you know what sound s really good ?
put patti smiths "birdland" on a tape and
follow it with "all along the watchtower"
from botby woah nellie !! [trust me]
tbtt is my personal fave from botby.
"aw ! aw ! aw!!!!!"
yummy !
yknib

(with a sad look on my face)

what about my birthday, i will be 28 on the 24th.
oh well.... i guess that i did not make the b-day list, maybe i was bad..
bye for now,
scott (in alaska)
assms6@uaa.alaska.edu

my favorite track from botby is all along the watchtower. i love that
song! i can listen to it over and over and over. and over. :)

peace,
margot

does anyone know if there are any other so. ca shows that melissa is
having? the people at ticketmaster said all there is the 22nd, and i'm
trying not to believe them :(. please? huh? purty please with grape nuts?

em'ly

warning: this is completely nigc.

i am on the university of southern california's committee for planning a
take back the night campaign. in previous years this event has been, well,
a flop. we don't have the tradition here of a strong program, but this
year we're hoping to breathe some life into it. i was wondering if any of
you have any experience with this type of program, and could give me some
pointers i could share with the group. we have a lot of money and
resources, as the university really wants to support this. l.a. really
needs this kind of awareness!! i also especially would love info on how we
might engage a performer for that night.. some people suggested sarah
mcclaughan (_really_ bad sp.) but i don't even know if that sort of thing
is possible. help, please??? thank you in advance....
lurv em'ly

    >
i have two extra copies of ani's appearance on conan, available for two (thats
all i have! sorry) people who didn't see it, or didn't tape it.  i'll trade for
a boot..or give it away for a replacement tape..whatever works best for y'all.
i'm easy..trust me :) .  email me at gruganu@winternet.com

thanks :)
rick

on fri, 22 nov 1996, jendy wrote:

> hey there! i was just listening to botby, which i haven't listened to in
> months, and was wondering what everyone's favorite track was from it. don't

left me a fool, mostly...the first ig song i ever heard, had it sung to me
by my at-the-time girlfriend...rather nice :) after that, it's mostly a
tie...all along the watchtower is cool though...what tape did dylan put it
on? maybe i'll take a peek about and see if i can listen to the
original..

chris.

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|              your actions will follow you full circle round.            |
|                       center stage, indigo girls                        |
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|              chris papadimitriou, cs942108@ariel.cs.yorku.ca            |
\=========================================================================/

howdy, y'all,

i'm yet another dubber having to close my offer for a while. if you
haven't heard from me already, then i'll have to wait until after the new
year.

take care,
tom

---
tomcat ____     i thought i'd seen someone who seemed at last
       \ _/__   to know the truth
        \\  /   i was mistaken
          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

corinne (i think...) wrote....
>well, there are those who may think ani is a sell-out for not singing the
>"cover my butt cuz i covet another man's wife" part last night on conan.
>but the truth probably is that she had to fit shameless into the time
well, for what it's worth...at the concert last saturday she also skipped
that part in shameless. i like it, but oh well. maybe she's tired of
singing that :)
:)katy

hi everyone, i've been on this list about a week and a half and figured it
was time to give this posting thing a try.  my random comment for the moment:
i love the ig's cover of all along the watchtower from botby.  i think it's
better than the dylan version.  much credit to him for writing the incredible
lyrics, but how much good are they if you can't tell what he's saying?

west of bishes
shana (jak)

hands down - - "all along the watchtower".  i'm not a dylan fan - - or at
least not of his singing (who is?), but igs cover of him make me want to
hear them cover more dylan. amy is so powerful.  i've read that some don't
like her singing because it seems she's yelling.  but i love it.  plus,
emily's guitar work - - *sigh*  what more can i say.

have a good weekend y'all,
- jen hall

hey everyone,

just bought some daemon cd's. two of them i dont like. would anyone be
interested in trading with me. if so e-mail me personally. (thanks betsy for
the idea)

the cd's are:

grady cousins - test market #1
the*rock*a*teens - self titled

thanks y'all
pj

well here's my take on the "shameless" lyric omissions. i don't think it's
for reasons of conforming or selling out, that's just not ani! my only guess
is that perhaps since she's in a serious relationship with a man (i don't
think this falls under the category of delving into her personal life since
she talks openly about it in interviews, i.e. ms. article) the line just
doesn't fit her life anymore. i could be way off on this interpretation
though. i miss the line too!

:) abigail

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* "the pledge of allegiance states:           *
*  'with liberty and justice for all'         *
*   which part of 'all' don't you understand?"*
*                                             *
*                ~rep. patricia schroeder    *
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hey kind friends...
well, ani did the omitted "another man's wife" lyric tonight at the beacon in
nyc. not really sure what that means, but i'm scared that grannie conanie
asked her to omit it. hmm.

okay y'all,

   the response the my ig video compilation on the road to austin has been
totally overwhelming!!!!  and i don't want my branches to be overwhelmed,
so...
what i've decided to do is have 2 branches for each of the astrological
signs.  so there will be like 2 aries branches, one for aries born on an
even numbered day and one for aries born on an odd numbered day.  get it?
this should split up the load so nobody has to dub like 30 tapes or
anything.  below is a list of people who will be video dubbers.  i still
need 4-5 people!  if you can be half a branch please drop me a line today.
i'd like to get this tree all together this weekend so i can start this
project really rolling.
     please check this list to see if you are on it as a dubber:  (special
thanks to christopher for helping dub 1/2 the branches tapes)

jen
jlucero@mail.monmouth.com

amy
sea8aggie@aol.com

deb
debbie@mei.com

linda
napikosk@scf-fs.usc.edu

rick
gruganu@winternet.com

gabrielle
gm1l+@andrew.cmu.edu

rodney
rucrs7a@prodigy.com

sasha
indigofrk@aol.com

candice
cgohn@olympus.net

chris
guinione@aol.com

christopher
cmbecker@space.mit.edu

lori
lori.shiraishi@jpl.nasa.gov

uk (pal format)--hopefully
andrew
rbc31@dial.pipex.com

bren
blf2222@aol.com

tina
webbc@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

kate
gogirrrl@aol.com

karen asiu
102061.320@compuserve.com

susanna kwan
skwan@midway.uchicago.edu

hugh barroll
hugh404@ix.netcom.com

yen
ymt2@lehigh.edu

lisa
nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu

well, there it is. as soon as i get this in place i'll post the tree
to the list and we can get this giant medicine ball rollin'.

rollin' rollin' rollin'..... keep them videos rollin'.....

--sunny,
who definately needs another cup of coffee to keep up with this :p

how many indigo girl's fans does it take to change a light bulb?

twenty. one to remove and replace the light bulb, one to write a
song about it, three to organize a petition to have a&e sing it in a
concert, one to boot the concert and set up a tape tree, and
fourteen to be the branches of the tape tree! ;)

hope y'all are having a relaxing weekend!

anna

"how is it that music can, without words, evoke our
laughter, our tears, our highest aspiration?" -jane swan

how many indigo girl's fans does it take to change a light bulb?

hope y'all are having a relaxing weekend!

anna

     you forgot to mention the other 100 people it takes to decide what to
     put on the tshirt about it :) heeheesnickersnicker ;>
     kira

ok, i can't remember if when we were coming up with ideas on how to spend
our maxell points, anyone suggested this, so bear with my feeble brain(:

how about a sara lee e-z bake oven, with a 60 watt lightbulb you can bake
tasty frosted indigo treats?!?

i'm not sure why i felt the need to post this, but i did. its been a
loooong week(;

happy day anyway,
jennie

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"i am a work in progress..."
-ani

and twenty more to complain a month after they stopped making the t-shirts
that they're out of college now and want one too.

- jen hall

>      you forgot to mention the other 100 people it takes to decide what
to
>      put on the tshirt about it :) heeheesnickersnicker ;>
>      kira

>> how many indigo girl's fans does it take to change a light bulb?
> >
> >twenty. one to remove and replace the light bulb, one to write a
> >song about it, three to organize a petition to have a&e sing it in a
> >concert, one to boot the concert and set up a tape tree, and
> >fourteen to be the branches of the tape tree! ;)
>>
> >hope y'all are having a relaxing weekend!
>>
> >anna

>and twenty more to complain a month after they stopped making the t-shirts
>that they're out of college now and want one too.
>
> - jen hall

let's not ferget the ten or so flamers who must post "stop it!!!" flames to
the list cause of the twenty "please can i have a t-shirt too?" posts and
the ten or so "me too?" posters that follow on that "please can i have one
too?" thread.... the twenty counter flamers...and the six or so posters who
try to restore sanity to the list by saying "read the faq list again
*please* people!!!!" ... the four wunnerful posterers who try to spread oil
by creating a new thread...and a partridge in a pear tree.....
luv... kim.. the 35 year old goddess ( as of today ) ( thanx fer the happy
b-day wish karey) :-)
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"don't tell me i'm burning the candle
at both ends... tell me where to get
more wax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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hey y'all! i'm here to admit that i do listen to music other than ig. not
much, but it does happen. i've been a beatles fan for years now, and with
the resurgence of their popularity, i've become an even bigger fan, and i
haven't even gained an ounce! strange huh?

anyhow, my question to the list is this: what beatles song(s) would you like
to hear the indigo girls cover? i've been thinking about it and i've come up
with a few. all you beatles fans out there, let me know!

here's my list:

helter skelter: this would be an unbelievable song for the girls if amy sang
the lead vocal. her voice is absolutely perfect for this song.

i will: a really sweet mccartney love song that would sound great for emily
to sing.

yer blues: another great one for amy to sing lead. really rough blues

i'll follow the sun: they can harmonize on this one! this song really suits
both of the girls' abilities.

she's leaving home: emily can take mccartney's part and amy can take
lennon's, with lush orchestration in the background. beautiful

in my life: another great one they can harmonize. maybe em could play the piano

happiness is a warm gun: with amy on lead, and emily and maybe michelle
malone as background vocals

rocky raccoon: can't decide whether em or amy should sing lead. either one
would do the song justice

two of us: imagine the close harmonies here...once again with amy taking
lennon's part and emily taking mccartney's

that's about all i can think of right now. i'm sure i'll find more i'd love
to hear. the obvious ones are yesterday, eleanor rigby, all you need is love
(ooh that would be good too). what beatles songs would y'all like to hear
them cover?

jendy

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"nature, mr. alnutt, is what we are put in this world to rise above."

-katharine hepburn

ooh! ooh! "i am the walrus"!!! (then we can spend months debating whether
it's emily or amy that actually says "cu-cu-ca-choo"! :)

let it be (me),
sam

> what beatles songs would y'all like to hear
> them cover?
>

i was looking through a bmg music service catalog, and there's a new artist
names leah andreone listed. two of her songs are called "problem child"
and "it's aright it's ok." i don't know, that sounds a little too similar
to new ig songs... :)

andi

        "see i heard you were free or someone thought you should be
                   and i know just how that feels."-ar
       -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

in a message dated 96-11-23 12:24:09 est, creechal@aslan.emu.edu
(chickensoprano) writes:

> how many indigo girl's fans does it take to change a light bulb?
>
>  twenty.  one to remove and replace the light bulb, one to write a
>  song about it, three to organize a petition to have a&e sing it in a
>  concert, one to boot the concert and set up a tape tree, and
>  fourteen to be the branches of the tape tree!  ;)
>

and two to serve grape nuts and indigo swirls,

ten to debate if a&e were lightbulbs, what color would they be,

eight to complain that the lightbulb blew and "what happened to all the
light?, is it a total blackout or is it just my fuse?",

fourteen to debate what the appropriate ratio is when trading lightbulbs...

later,
sheri :)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_    _----_          o   |...when you learn
{ ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
{ ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
       \/--               |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

in a message dated 96-11-23 17:16:39 est, edwina@jax-inter.net (jendy)
writes:

>
>  anyhow, my question to the list is this: what beatles song(s) would you
like
>  to hear the indigo girls cover? i've been thinking about it and i've come
up
>  with a few. all you beatles fans out there, let me know!

blackbird. 'nuff said.

-sheri :)

here's a post i sent way back when the list crashed, earlier in the month.

hey everyone,

i've been havin' a rough day and i thought having some ig time might cheer
me up. here are some ig dreams i've had in the past (anywhere from a week
to a year ago). enjoy!

this first one is the oldest. i can't remember the exact order of
everything. in fact, i'm not sure if it's one or two dreams. so i'll
just write them (1 or 2 dreams) as individual dream sequences/segments...

***
i'm at an ig concert (wow, bet ya didn't expect that! :)  the girls are
pretty far away.  they're on top of a hill/mound and it is very muddy.
it's muddy where i am too (kinda reminiscent (sp?) of woodstock 2).  the
girls are slipping around, singing.  i'm slipping around, dancin',
singing.  amy keeps ending up away from her mic b/c she's slipping
around so much.  she's trying to dance around, but it's too slippy.  she
keeps sliding around.  but she seems to be having fun. (ok, that's it for
that one. sorry if it was kinda boring)

***
i walk into an auditorium, not that big, not that small.  the girls are
suppossed to be playing.  there's nowhere to sit but the back row.  i'm
kinda bummed about being far away.  i sit down, and realize i'm sitting
next to emily.  wow!  we start talking, something about the performers on
stage.  i think to myself, where there's emily, there's amy.  i look on
the other side of emily, and there's amy.  cool!!  i think my gf is over
there, too.  a man from the stage announces to the crowd that they are
distributing peanut brittle for everyone in the audience.  ok, whatever, i
think.  some boxes are given to the people in the front, and they are
passed back.  i didn't realized i cared, but i started to worry that there
wouldn't be any peanut brittle left by the time a box reached me.  i think
i start to complain to emily.  the box reaches me and there's not much in
it.  i think i better only take a little.  emily, laughing, tells me to
take a lot. so i do.  then there are all the rest of the boxes coming to
our row and we have tons of peanut brittle.  we're laughing cause it's so
funny.  i think emily even brings out her own personal box, from i don't
know where.  then emily gets up and leaves, b/c she's got to perform soon.
i look over to try to talk to amy.  but she's not there.  she had already
left.  my girlfriend is there.  i sit next to her, kinda depressed.

***
i'm outside with my girlfriend.  we had just come from an outside show.
tons of people are streaming out to go home.  there's a football field
next to where the girls had just played.  i look and see two people
sitting there, next to the track.  it's amy and emily.  i wonder why noone
else is crowding around them.  they have to recognize them, they just saw
them.  i figure they don't know they're there, because  all the people are
on the other side of these bleachers.  so i walk over to amy and sit down
with a cd, i think.  i give it to her to sign.  i say something to her,
but i have not clue now what.  she's says something back.  again, i don't
know what, but it was very casual, friendly.
---

this last dream (following) was list-induced.  i think i was reading about
people having encounters with the girls, and thought about how i would
feel if i met them. this mixed with my own excitement about the prospect of
the new album, a new touring season, and seeing the girls again!  but
still, a close encounter would probably be too much for me.  i'm very much
into not having myself paid attention to, by anyone, let alone ig.
anyway...

***
i'm at a bar/club.  i'm way in the back.  no one interesting is playing,
and i don't expect anyone interesting to play (i.e. the ig :)  so i'm
there with my gf and the girls walk on stage and start playing.  i am
really surprised, but move quickly a few feet towards the stage.  i
totally abandon my gf, but think, she knows i must be here, she knows i
couldn't stay in the back.  this place is pretty small, barely 100 people
in the audience, and about full.  i'm only about 20 feet away from amy.
i'm watching her play, totally enjoying myself.  next thing i know, amy
looks right at me, my eyes looking at her eyes.  i can't admit that this
is happening, or i'll freak out.  so i pretend it's not.  i keep on
looking, just as i had, as if i didn't know she was looking at me.  i
realize it's totally random, but still, *amy is looking at me*  i don't
remember anything else about the dream, maybe that was the end, maybe
not...

in the next-to-last segment i actually get to meet amy.  this has only
happened in one other dream.  usually i always meet emily, and try
fruitlessly to talk to amy.  weird.  i don't feel as obsessed as my dreams
make me seem.  my last dream seems pretty realistic for me.  i feel kind
of selfish that i want to have free reign (sp?) to look at the girls, but
would certainly not want that kind of attention paid to myself.  but, i am
shy, and they are famous.  i really am happy keeping my distance, however.
:) well,thanks everyone.  this is certainly a thread that will never die.
:)  at least as long i as keep dreaming :)

peace, love, and happiness,

melissa

mandi martin and maneesha (sp?) (goddess of destruction) please o please
email me! it's about boots! thanks!

peace, love, and susan
sundara, the purple princess

"you sure do get a lot of packages..."

-my mailman

>
> i was surprised that i didn't see:
>
> august 16, 1992
> my house
> where i live
> 0:36 seconds
> amy leaving a message on my answering machine

ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod! anyone know where i can get this??????

8-) ;-) %-),
chris ii

hello friends. i am in a huge quandary and need your help!

does anyone know anjeanette's last name? she lives in boston and has traded (i
think) with some of you....she and i are going to ani (i thought we were going
tonight, but i think our tickets are for tomorrow...its a long story) and i
desperately need to call her!

so if you know her, please email me.... my life depends on it! (okay, not
really, but c'mon! its ani!!!!)

love and all that,
susan

in a message dated 96-11-23 18:23:22 est, you write:

<< what beatles song(s) would you like
to hear the indigo girls cover? >>

well...it would be emily doing "while my guitar gently weeps."

michelle m.

sorry to waste bandwidth, but lisa anderson, where are you? you sent me
some tapes to dubb, but i have no idea what you wanted me to dubb. anyway,
please send me an e-mail letting me know! :)

peace,
margot

anyone i owe stuff to hopefully ill be able to send it out after december
4th im sorry for this delay but ive been doing dr visits and stuff
hopefully alll these visits will be done then i dont wanna be known as a
bad trader

ohmygosh!
*give peace a chance*!!!
it couldn't get much better than that!
peace,
janet-the-newbie-who-just-found-this-list-but-has-to-take-a-minute-to-say
i met emily last weekend! : ) : )
(hoping i didn't just commit a major-or-even-minor no-no!)

does anyone know what type of black guitar(s) amy plays?

both emily and amy play martin guitars.

mike

mike eppinger
714 sproul hall
(814) 862-2232

fingermarked skin, hurt to the bone
we don't understand
oh, my princess, answer please
i'll get the pencils
we'll draw ourselves a new world.

p. fitzgerald, kod.

greetings to all in the land of indigo!

while i was in boston yesterday for the ani difranco show, which totally
rocked, i did some shopping at some record stores and came up with some
great finds. i was really suprised to see all this ig stuff, so i had
to buy it all:

so import lp from holland $5.99
so autographed lp, sealed $7.99
nis lp, sealed $5.99
botby lp, sealed $5.99
joking promo cd single $5.99

other related ig stuff:

ejs-reluctantly we lp, sealed $2.99
reversing hour promo tape $2.00
belloluna promo tape $2.00
michelle malone and bds promo tape 1996, $2.00
disappear fear promo tape of df, $2.00

i was amazed with all this stuff,especially all the vinly ig. it is
so rare to find it where i live, so i went nutso. the mm/bds tape i
beleive is a promo of bird on fire, which is yet to be released, because
there are a number of songs on it that she played when she opened for ig
on the demo tour and on her club tour she is currently on.

i thought it was really rare to find ig on vinyl, is it or was i really
lucky? i am also getting a ig ep, from someone that has ctf, kf, cs, pod.
i am anxious to see what it is, and if it is of any value.

does anyone have any idea of record shows that occur and go city to city?
i would love to go to one and see what i can come up with, so if anyone
has info they could give me i would really apprectiate it. thanks a lot.

take care and peace!

-deb

on sun, 24 nov 1996, funk boy wrote:

> both emily and amy play martin guitars.
>

not exclusively. amy also plays a guitar made by the atlanta luthier,
everett (can't remember his first name) and a fender stratocaster; emily
also plays a dobro and a yamaha electric jazz guitar.

mat

hi, all,

i was wondering if anyone had worked out the lyrics to get out the map
yet. jen?

tom

my vote for a beatles cover would be "michelle." i think it would be
ironic-cute-lots-of-hidden-mtg.

love
aim

###############################################################################

"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick

##############################################################################

janet, how did you meet her?

ok..so we can't get the official solo tape,,i'm trying to put together
a solo tape of studio recording of stuff not released,,
so far i have:
high horse
never stop
what was really me
lifeblood
up in smoke
untitled tune
half moon cafe
i'm trying to find other stuff that could go on this "unofficial"
tape..i'd be happy to compile it if you're interested..
so..if anyone has any other "good stuff" could you send me a note and
we'll see what we can do.
i'm looking for stuff that hasn't been released on any of the epic cd's
we could call it color me strawberry ..or whatever..
let me know
pooh

sorry for the nigc but i don't know who else to ask.  my 16 year old cousin
(from atlanta) left home recently and has been (as far as we know) living on
the street, possibly around little five points.  obviously we're all really
upset about it.  my family is going down to georgia tuesday night and we
really want to get in touch with her to let her know there are alternatives -
anyone in the family would take her in and help her, i can't stand to think
of her alone like that.  we're going to atlanta and i was wondering : does
anybody know of any places where people hang out, or any places we might be
able to find her.  i just want to talk to her, and hopefully bring her back
to someone's home, even if hers is unbearable.  please, anybody who could
help, email me.  thanks, y'all...happy thanksgiving, almost...good stuff can
happen on holidays, right?
katy

i want to start a crusade!!!

i want indigo girls to get a cover story
in rolling stone magazine when their new
album comes out next year. let's send
rolling stone some e-mail!! the address is
rollingstone@echonyc.com, you can say whatever
you want or you can copy the following message:

will you please do a cover story on indigo girls
when their new album is released next year??

i want rolling stone's computers to jam
with our e-mail, the more you send, the more
they'll listen!!! i feel like peter finch in network.
amy and emily have been ignored too long!!
"i'm as mad as h*ll, and i'm not gonna take this
anymore!"

as for beatles songs, i'm rather selective about what i like... never been
much of a fan of theirs (i don't know why, don't shoot me, please) but i
would definately put in:

norweigan wood
you've got to hide your love away (is that what it's called?)

that's all i can think of right now, as for shame on you... does anyone
need the tab for that? i figured out the chords, but the solo isn't clear
enough for me to get it (not that i could get it if i did hear it; my ears
horrible..) but i have the rhythm...

god love amy songs...

alec

given how horrible the coverage they gave to pearl jam, i'd say if you are a
fan, you urge them not to...
mike r.

there is a eight dollar ep that was announced through rbr on a postcard,
somehow i got booted off the mailing list (and considering i had the last
two albums early from the local record store and i qwn everything she has
done. ) i need info -- actually i need that cd as it purportedly has live
stuff and remixes to shameless ect...my friend told me about it.

course an review of boston would be great -- was it as good as last year???
mike r.

hey there! i've met a guy on irc and he said he's never heard the indigo
girls' music. i was wondering if anyone had some .wav files you could send
me so i could give him a taste of their music. either that or maybe someone
could give me the url for a web page with some wavs. whatever. thanks y'all!
have to spread the word :)

jendy

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"nature, mr. alnutt, is what we are put in this world to rise above."

-katharine hepburn

hey y'all,
okay, i'm finally done with all my midterms, and i'm feeling quite fine
because i'm finished with all of that crap, at least for a while, and
i'm finally getting rid of this nasty cold, so who better to share my joy
and happiness than with my fellow listers, many of whom are precious
little newbies and all (well, i think that i still kind of qualify as a
newbie).  and this list has been mighty kind with me, y'all are so sweet
and generous, sharing any which way you can, so i'm giving back.
look, skim, peruse, whatever to my boot list.  if you see anything that
you're interested in, just personally email me, and i'll give you my
address and any other info that i may not be thinking of at the moment.
offer's open to newbies, oldies, the guys and gals stuck in the middle who
are going through their little identity crises, anybody.  the whole
outbreak of generosity has gotten me into the holiday spirit and all, just
wanted to tell y'all that i love you guys...
okay, enough jibberish, here's the list (which many of y'all have helped
to build):

independent ep & strange fire - 90min
study hall 11/81 & studio outtakes '85 - 60min
blue food, reverse 1 live - 90min
the dugout '85 - 90min
purple parrot - 90min
early recordings - 90min
atlanta 4/26/88 & wumb 8/2/89 - 90min
lisner auditorium 4/22/90 - 90min
shades of indigo - 60min
bumbershoot '91 - 90min
new orleans jazz festival 5/4/96 - 90min
newport '96 8/11/96 - 100min
mesa, az 8/26/96 - 100min
bumbershoot 8/31/96 - 100min
hte minnesota 9/20/96 - 60min
hte shangri-la studios 10/17/96 - 60min
blood & fire - 90min
in with the out crowd - 90min

okay, y'all, that's my list. i'm expectings some other stuff soon, but
that's what i have right now, and i'll make the necessary additions when i
do this again.

take care,
veronica

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        i said it's 3 am, and it's good company
        hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me remember who i am

-- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

well, i guess i'm delurking and unfortunately it is nigc but i just
wanted to say that i saw ani at the orpheum in boston and she played
"shameless" _with_ the verse that was omitted on conan. she said she
only omitted it because of time restraints on the show and it's the
easiest verse to omit. hopefully my next post will be igc! --sara

hmm, so can anyone else figure out what michael lorant is saying during live
performances of this train (revised)? i'm convinced it's a jewish prayer,
but i can't tell which one. one time, it sounded like the she'ma, but on
days of wine and roses (thanks beth!) it seems to start with the hebrew
"baruch ata adonai.." ("blessed are you lord, our g-d")
can anyone familiar with judaism help me out? i know on the album they were
reading names, but i think it's different on most of the live versions.
thanks!

:) abigail

hey jude!
:) katy

hi everybody...
i just wanted to share my little experience... as i sat at home this whole
weekend with a  tempeature of 101, today i was playing this little trivia
game on the vh1 site, (you can win free cd's if you win the trivia)
anyways.... the very last question was about ig.  i was very excited, but
then i got kinda pissed off cause they are "too cool" for ig now....  ok so i
don't think this post really has much of a point, but because i've been
sick.. it was one of the highlights of my weekend..... oh  yeah the other was
watching "watershed" again cause i hadn't watched it in a while... it's so
cute... ok that's enough...

peace
sasha

okay, so i was driving down to olympia, wa today to visit claire/binky
(hi! love you!)  and on the freeway, this car passed me that had rhode
island license plates, without even thinking, i shouted out, newport!! folk
fest!!!  then i mentally listed all the years of the boots of nff i have.
i was quite proud.  then i thought, hey, this could be a fun new driving
game for the extrememly obssessed,  whenever you see a car with license
plates other than your state, try and list all the places ig have played
there.  of course you have to have a huge boot collection, and/or a real
good memory to play this, but i still managed to amuse myself for the
entire ride.  anyway, just thought i would share :)

peace, love, and susan
sundara, the purple princess

"you sure do get a lot of packages..."

-my mailman

hello to all!

sorry for the nigc, but since ani gave an explaination at her show
in boston about the ommission of the verse in shameless on the conan
o'brien show i thougt i would share it, because there was a lot of
speculation about it on the list.

ani said that they only had 3 1/2 minutes to play it, so they had
to shorten it so the network could squeeze in another laundry
detergent ad. my guess is that when she skipped the verse at the
smith show, she was trying to practice a shortened version and see
how long it was, but that is just a guess.

she did sing all the verses in boston on sat, and even rocked it out
in what she called the extened dance mix.

hope that helps clear things up and settles the ideas of ani caving in
-deb

hey long time readers,
anybody know the whereabouts of kelly ketter? i kind of lost
contact with her sometime back.

mike

--- mike reynolds wrote:

course an review of boston would be great -- was it as good as last year???
--- end of quoted material ---
..having just returned fresh from the ani show of this evening (hi anj!!!), i
can emphatically say she rocked, she dominated she kicked arse! it was amazing!
she played for 2.5 hours (maybe cause it was the lat night of the tour, she was
in obvious great spirits, laughing and cracking jokes and even messing up songs
and still laughing!), with a intermission between sets. she was
wonderful....sara lee was amazing too...and of course after playing
for 2+ hours to a fanatical crowd, she came out and did "when doves cry" a
capella with andy and sara for the final encore. god, it was just priceless. if
you like her, even a little, you must see her live. she truly is commander in
chief of her own one-woman army!

afterglowingly,
susanna

well well well, guess who's back on the list. it's me! lorindigo! i'm back
(much celebration ensues). i've moved, i've started my new job, and most
importantly, i've finally gotten a modem, and so here i am again. hi all,
i've missed you, and i thought for my first post back on the list i'd
sort of come in with a bang. i don't know if this has ever been posted
before, but _i've_ never seen it. are you ready for this? i've
transcribed the strange fire solo. i sat down one night and hammered this
out. i'm posting this mostly because i need help with it, so guitarists
take note! this is _very_rough_, and i have almost no timing indications.
also, there are lots of extraneous notes emily throws in that i didn't
always pick up on, and there's probably some garble in here from amy's
guitar. also, the end is actually a mess because i know i'm hearing two
guitars, and i've transcribed what i'm hearing from _both_ of them, so
there's actually part of it that can't really be played by one person alone.
add in the fact that she plays it differently on sf and 1200c, and you
see how rough this is.

i probably shouldn't be posting this until i've had some more time to
work on it a bit more and add some timing indications, but to be
perfectly honest i about drove myself banana's with it when i first
transcribed it, and i can't bear the thought of going through that again
right now. i'd be more than happy to hear anything and everything that
anyone wants to say about this. work with me and we can get this solo
spiffied up and we'll repost the final version to the list.
have at it guitarists!

e a
|------------|---0-0----2-4-5-|5/7-7-7---77---------|
|------------|------4-5-------|--------5----5--5-7-5|
|--------1-2-|4-4-4-----------|---------------------|
|----2=4-----|----------------|---------------------|
|2=4---------|----------------|---------------------|
|------------|----------------|---------------------|

|--0-----0-----0-----0-----0-------0-----0-----0-----0-----0--|
|----4-----4-----4-----4-----4-------4-----4-----4-----4-----4|
|4-----4-----4-----4-----4-----4-2-----2-----2-----2-----2----|
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------|

|----4-----5-----7-----9-------|7/9---------7/9--7/9-|
|0-----0-----0-----0----(0)-(9)|6/9-(0)-(9)-6/9--6/9-|
|--4-----6-----8-----9---------|---------------------|
|------------------------------|---------------------|
|------------------------------|---------------------|
|------------------------------|---------------------|

(notes in () are very faint)
(t = 10, e = 11, w = 12)

|www--9-e-w--(w)----(w)---(w)-(w)-|
|-----------9---t--w---tt---------|
|-------------------------e-9-e-9-|
|---------------------------------|
|---------------------------------|
|---------------------------------|

|---------------------------0---0--0--------------|
|---------------------------0---0--0--------2=3-5-|
|---------------------------1---1--1------2-------|
|e=w--9=e--7=9--6=7--4=6--222---2--2--2=4---------| (repeat 3x)
|---------------------------2---2--2--------------|
|---------------------------0---0--0--------------|

notes in [] are what's heard most clearly over the 9-0-8 repeated triplet
thing. i think there are actually two guitars playing here, so i don't think
it's really possible to play both things at once, so the timing for those
two bits are completely separate, which is why the [] notes look kinda
scrunched in there.

|---0-----0-[9]-0-[7]-0-----0-----0-[7]-0-[5]-0-----0-----0---|
|-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-----8-| back to e
|9------9-----9-----9-----9-----7-----7-----7-----7-----7-----| in verse.
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------|

^
or: in sf she plays: (beginning here)

                                |------0-|
                                |--------|
                                |2-2-4---|
                                |--------|   (repeat 3x)
                                |--------|
                                |--------|

ok, so that's it. i really want to see what y'all can do with this. sorry
it's so rough and hard to follow, but hey, i'm only here to get the ball
rolling.

in other news: i saw shawn mullins last night. he's my main man now. ;)
he rocks, go see him when he gets to your town. actually, i was
particularly glad to see him playing here because it seems st. louis is a
bit of a folk vacuum. i guess now my fellow st. louisans and i will have
to change that situation.

happy to be here,
lorindigo

ps, max of newsgroup fame is here to say hi: hi :)

>hmm, so can anyone else figure out what michael lorant is saying during live
>performances of this train (revised)? i'm convinced it's a jewish prayer,
>but i can't tell which one. one time, it sounded like the she'ma, but on
>days of wine and roses (thanks beth!) it seems to start with the hebrew
>"baruch ata adonai.." ("blessed are you lord, our g-d")
>can anyone familiar with judaism help me out? i know on the album they were
>reading names, but i think it's different on most of the live versions.
>thanks!
>

hi all,

        i just listened to three cd versions of "this train revised" live
and i agree that michael is saying something on the dowar cd and it could be
the barucha...but i could have been biased into thinking that having read
abigail's post first...
        but i would have to say the odds of having the shema in the song
would be pretty slim...jews tend to hold this prayer as one of the most
powerful and sacred of the liturgy and knowing how amy and emily feel about
respecting all religions, i would doubt it would be said in the song.  the
shema is typically said only within the presence of a minyan and usually
recited standing.  of course this reflects the conservative and liberal
orthodox schools of thought and not the more free-thinking reform and
reconstruction judaism.  (don't worry everyone, i won't go into the
differences....)

just my thoughts on abigail's question...i'll try to listen to some
cassette versions tomorrow...

peace (or shalom),

jen

i would like to repeat what susan said,
but she already said it!! it rocked.. it rolled...
it was amazing (grace.. to the tune of gilligan's island)
heehee!
but seriously.. see her if you ever can.. she is a supreme
goddess in her own right, and i am lucky to say that i saw her
(waves to susan) and some people can say they drove twice <g>
and, btw, i will never, never be able to hear prince
sing "when doves cry" without hearing an audience
in harmony with itself!

still reeling,
anjeanette
--
email: boilrmkr@bu.edu

for echo is the soul of the voice exciting itself in hollow places.
-the english patient

hi guys,
        no, i did not disappear with out letting you know the status of the
me live x.  i did get it and i have suzanne vega, too.  i am willing to do
copies for a limited number of people.  just drop me a line and i'll give
you all the details!
        btw, amy was on the radio tonight on locals only show.  she said
that she is going to be at an environmental rally on peachtree st. (in
atlanta) across from the beer mug at 1 pm tomorrow.  i get out of class at
12:50.  i'm think' i will have to leave a bit early.

see y'all there,
allison

on sun, 24 nov 1996, funk boy wrote:

> both emily and amy play martin guitars.
>
> mike

scott here,
when they came to alaska, i saw that their 12 string's and i thing i saw
them play a 6 string fender as well. but i do think that most of the
guitars, are martin. i think that it depends on the sound they are going
for on the song.
oh well! thought i would share (smile)
bye for now
scott

in a message dated 96-11-24 16:48:45 est,
the entity known as rodney wicker writes:

<< i want indigo girls to get a cover story
in rolling stone magazine when their new
album comes out next year. >>

hey that sounds great !!!!!
now the only question is.....

which one will be naked with her hair blowing
in the wind while she embraces herself seductively
and strategically...
and which one will be wearing the transparent mini dress
and sucking her fingers with pouty lips ?

(sorry....i couldn't resist }:)
i really do want to see them on the cover but have a
decidedly jaded view of rs in regards thier 'treatment'
of women......but i guess they did let melissa keep her
clothes on :)
with me ..it's a love hate thing...i've been buying
that mag since it was a fold out newsprint jobbie :)
yep...used to buy it at the old head shop along with a pack
of cherry incense *creeeeek* *wheeze*
do you think it could happen ?
love !
yknib

on sun, 24 nov 1996 23:16:01 -0500, sundara wrote:

>okay, so i was driving down to olympia, wa today to visit claire/binky
>(hi! love you!)  and on the freeway, this car passed me that had rhode
>island license plates, without even thinking, i shouted out, newport!! folk
>fest!!!  then i mentally listed all the years of the boots of nff i have.
>i was quite proud.  then i thought, hey, this could be a fun new driving
>game for the extrememly obssessed,  whenever you see a car with license
>plates other than your state, try and list all the places ig have played
>there.

sundara, hon, this could be on the top ten list of "you know you're an
obsessed ig fan if...." you can do this....oh my gawd..... ;o)

joni :o)

i just caught vh1 storytellers last nite with melissa...wow, what a great
format for a show!  and melissa was perfect for it, as she loves to talk to
the audience...so many of her songs you interpret one way, and then you
come to find out what she was really thinking when she wrote it, which
gives the song a whole new life...i really liked the show!  [ and she has
the cutest facial expressions....  ;o)   ]

anyone else see this show....?

joni :o)

i'd really love to hear them sing:
she said
nowhere man
black bird
lucy in the sky with diamonds

is wanting to hear them sing, i am the walrus going to far?

:):):)
kim

hey all,

just for info sake, amy supposedly called up 99x (local atlanta radio
station) and said she was going to be protesting some forestry project in
atlanta today at 1pm. i didn't get all the details, but it should be cool.

also, went to see the new star trek movie on saturday. (it was awesome,
definitly better than the last one). anyways, i saw michael lorant, sheila
doyle,and some other local yokels come out of the earlier showing of star
trek. i kept thinking back to earth jam 95 when amy was wearing that red
star trek: the next generation t-shirt. what a woman!

happy thanksgiving, ya'll.

sharon, who will be entering the 20 somethings in 3 days....ugh!

on sat, 23 nov 1996, sherri wrote:

>blackbird. 'nuff said.

having been a colossal beatles fan at one time, i was interested in this
thread, but doubt there are too many songs that the girls would actually
feel right about doing. but i agree blackbird would be one of them, and
i'd love to hear it!!. also maybe: let it be, here comes the sun, across
the universe, with a little help from my friends.

for what its worth,
betsy

hey all.

when i saw ani at bumbershoot this summer, she was saying that she had just
finished shooting a video for a remix of "joyful girl."  she told us not to
look for it, because she said no one would play it.  well i was up last
night reading for a class, and i had the tv on to 120 minutes on mtv.  and
they played the joyful girl video.   it was sort of strange, but it's
ani... and she is in the cutest dress and has shiny makeup on.  so be on
the lookout for it....

corinne

hello
can anyone help with my confusion?  i have a bootleg called "decatur square"
but have seen "decateur" and "decatur in the square".  are these the same
thing?  spelling mistakes?

also, does anyone know of/have any bootlegs with ig and rem (m.stipe) other
than the ones i already have?  i know of uptown girls, athens festival sept.
88 and lisner.  i would love to get a hold of any others, and have ig/rem
stuff to trade.  also interested in trading for rem boots too.

thanks!
lori

"the stars are the greatest thing you've ever seen, and they're there for
you,
for you alone, you are the everything" rem

        hi y'all... this is my first attempt at a tab post...  maybe i'll send it
to harmony central as well...  who knows...  i doubt it will be good enough
though...  here goes...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
shame on you
-amy ray

all chord symbols are one measure.
^ is an accented beat
m is a muted beat
the following signifies a triplet:
3
_________
| | |

when it says (stop) hit the first chord of the measure and then start up on
the appropriate chord where it says (go)

numbers in parenthesis (e.g., (0) ) signify a note that is not neccesarily
there all the time, but give the full chord identity.
intro:
    (a)  3           3
e-|--_________---_________---_____----|------------/------|
b-|--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|----|-----------/-------|
g-|--2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2----|----oo----/---oo---|
d-|--2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2----|----oo---/----oo---|
a-|-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)---|--------/----------|
e-|-----------------------------------|-------/-----------|
     ^   m   m   ^   m   m   ^   m
    (d)__3____   ____3____   _____      (e)  3           3
e-|--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|----|--_________---_________---_____-|
b-|--3---3---3---3---3---3---3---3----|--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|-|
g-|--2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2----|--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|-|
d-|-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)---|--2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2-|
a-|-----------------------------------|--2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2-|
e-|-----------------------------------|-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)|
     ^   m   m   ^   m   m   ^   m       ^   m   m   ^   m   m   ^   m

verse (same as intro, chord symbols correspond):

        (a)                     (a)
        my friends they wash the windows
        (d)                   (e)
        and they shine in the sun
        (a)
        they say wake up early in the morning sometime
        (d)                                (e)
        and see what a beautiful job we've done

        (a)                            (a)
        i said let's put on some tunes sing-a-long
        (d)                 (e)
        and do a little all day
        (a)                                    (a)
        go down to the riverside, take off our clothes (shoes)
        (d)                   (e)
        and wash these sins away

chorus (same as verse, guitar wise):

        (a)                 (a)
        and the river said, la la la, it said
        (d)      (e)
        shame on you
        (a)                 (a)
        and the river said, la la la, it said
        (d)       (e)
        shame on you

(emily on banjo)
        i go down to chicano city park
        cause it makes me feel so fine
        and when the weeds go down
        you can see up close
        in the dead of the wintertime

        oh, when the summer comes everything's in bloom
        and you wouldn't know it's there
(stop)  and the white folks would like to pretend it's not
(go)    but their music's in the air

at this chorus, instead of playing the corresponding tab, play the full
chord at the symbol.

        you can hear them singing, la, la, la, they said
        shame on you
        you can feel them dancing, la, la, la, they said
        shame on you

        my friend tanner she says, you know, me and jesus
        we're of the same heart
        the only thing that keeps us distant
        is that i keep fucking up

        i said come on down to chicano city park
        wash your blues away
(stop)  and when the beautiful ladies walk right by
(go)    you know i never know what to say

        and now they're singing, ooh la, la, la...
        shame on you
        and now we're dancing, ooh la, la, la...they said
        shame on you
        shame on you

keep the jam going... the same 1-4-5, a-d-e thing... this is the solo, but
it's so damned distorted i can't get it at all... anyone with a better
recording or a better ear, revise this sucker... :)

(stop)  let's go road-block tripping in the middle of the night
(go)    up in gainesville town
(stop)  there'll be blue lights flashing down a long dirt road
(go)    they ask me to step out

(stop)  they said we've been looking for illegal immigrants
(go)    can we check your car
(stop)  i said you know it's funny
(go)    i think you were on the same boat back in 1694

        and i said, ooh, la, la, la...
        shame on you
        and i said, ooh, la, la, la...
        shame on you...
        shame on you

fade out...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

not all that bad to write...  now lessee whether any get's the song right
from this...  it's probably the same thing y'all have been doing for
whatever anyway...  special thanks goto: jen lucero, for the lyrics,
kristina st. john, for the bumbershoot tape (and uptown girls, i owe you,
don't let me forget), adam schneider, for starting the whole thing, and amy
and emily, for being the best, and all of y'all for being all of y'all!!!

gee, i'd also like to thank the acadamy, but i don't think i will today...
whatever, see y'all around,

alec
alec@pipeline.com

the birthday goddess does not feel exactly, shall we say, worthy of the
name at the moment. she forgot several birthdays on account of trying to
be organized with the list (of birthdays), but there were several
different ones: on the email, at home, on paper... it was all messed up.
so--

big huge apologies

to everybody who was missed. very very sorry!!!! the bg will do her
darndest to get back on track.
here's the ones she missed (and if there are any more since the beginning
of november, she may hafta just _cry_) :

november 11
dsrogers@utkux.utcc.utk.edu (dave rogers)
happy 19th, dave!!
the less i seek my source for some definitive
the close i am to fine

november 21
lorbrink@iaw.com (lori brinkman)
happy 29th, lori!!
in the ink of an eye i saw you breathe
through the hunger i could hear you scream
solid to the air i breathe
open-eyed, fast asleep
falling softly as a dream
no footsteps ringing in your ear
ragged down worn to the skin
warrior raging have no fear

also, is november 21 somebody else's bday? (according to lori)

plus also, the bg forgot that her fantabulous stepmom, meg, turned 47 on
saturday. any bday greetings to meg will hafta be telepathic, cos she's
not online.

and:
november 24
kdeis@phoenix.kent.edu (kellie deis)
happy 21st, kellie!!
well the world seems spent, and that old congress
has no good idea who the masses are
well i'm one of them, and i'm among friends...

also:
assms6@uaa.alaska.edu (scott m. slone)
happy 28th, scott!!
when you learn to love yourself
you will dissolve all the stones that are cast...

this seems an opportune moment to mention again that the birthday list is
not some mysterious, elite group that you can see but not be on.  it is
for everybody!!!  the idea is to create community, not exclude people.
but scott must've joined the list after the last time the bg asked for
people to send in their birthday info.  what happened to me was that
mountaingirl6 (rachel?) privately emailed me soon after i had posted
(saying that i was a newbie), telling me about the bday list's existance,
asking for my info.  i hesitated b/c i was not yet sure about the list's
warm, happy atmosphere, and thought it was maybe some hacker person out to
rob me or whatever.  of course that was wrong, but that's why i don't do
it that way (also that's more work ;}).  so: i promise to try to remember
to ask for bday info from all interested parties every week, so noone gets
left out.

as far as i know there are no birthdays today, so ta ta for now, y'all.
peace and love and no hurt feelings,
the bg

just for a time, that is, i'm leaving...off to georgia.  thanks so much to
everyone who wrote me about my cousin.  i appreciate everyone's help and even
if you couldn't help, your kindnesses :)  i'm hoping, anyway... but the real
point is : anyone i'm trading with, or anyone who's sending me blanks, trust
me, it's coming!  as soon as i get back i'll get going more...thanks for
everyone's patience :)
katy

i'll have to listen again-i never noticed it...

but i do know that in lots of reform households, the shema is said more often
than described by jen (this is totally not meant as a correction, it's an
addition!) :), such as at bedtime, etc...sadly, my best friend, rabbi to be and
general semi-expert on things judaic (reconstructionist she is...)is not here to
be our consultant...i'll listen tho, i might be able to shed more light that way.

sorry to be so cryptic,

larissa

>hey that sounds great !!!!!
>now the only question is.....

>which one will be naked with her hair blowing
>in the wind while she embraces herself seductively
>and strategically...
>and which one will be wearing the transparent mini dress
>and sucking her fingers with pouty lips ?

if ig did do it naked, you would have quite a
stir in the lesbian community!!! i don't think amy
and emily would go for that though, not their style!!

p.s. can someone post my original crusade message
on compuserve? please e-mail me for a copy.

yall must have some kind of bumperhoot bootleg tape tree going.....

i need a tape

i will gladly send a trade or blank(s)

please

that is all

mail me privately por favor

-larisita

hey!!

i saw that stirytellers too, and it was great. i taped it but what i want
to know is, does anyone have the ability to take a tv feed and put it onto
audio and did anyone do this for this show? if you did: i'll trade!! i'll
trade!! please e-mail me if anyone out there has it on audio!!

thanks!!

rob

mediancat wrote:
> for what its worth,
> betsy

no, no, betsy. for what its worth is a song by buffalo springfield, not
the beatles :-)

sorry, couldn't resist.

tom

hi all,
i'm just writing about a friend of mine.  i recently introduced her to
the indigo girls and she really loves them.  the tape i made her has
been playing 24/7.  well, this morning her dad died from cancer.  i've
noticed the request to mail friends of listees letters after bad things
have happened and i was hoping that you guys might do the same thing
here.  her name is cheryl and her e-mail address is cheryl@ou.edu .  i
think that this would help her out a lot if she received a few e-mails
of sympathy and i would really appreciate it.  thanks a lot everyone.
ryan

i attempted to post this yesterday but i was so delirious, who knows what
happened to it...so if you already got this i apologize... ( it's funny how
you worry when you don't get your own mail : ) anyways

in a message dated 96-11-24 22:24:28 est, abaroo@execpc.com (abigail) writes:

>
>hmm, so can anyone else figure out what michael lorant is saying during live
>performances of this train (revised)? i'm convinced it's a jewish prayer,
>but i can't tell which one. one time, it sounded like the she'ma, but on
>days of wine and roses (thanks beth!) it seems to start with the hebrew
>"baruch ata adonai.." ("blessed are you lord, our g-d")

it is really hard to hear what he is saying, but he definitely starts out
with " baruch ata adonai,  eloheinu melech haolam which means blessed is our
god , ruler of the universe..  i'm not sure what he says next, but it sounds
like it could be this part from the end of the mourners kaddish that goes
"oseh shalom bimeromav, hu yaaseh shalom aleinu, ve'al kol yisrael, veimeru
amen" which says.. may he who causes peace to reign in the  high heavens, let
peace descend on us, on all israel, and all the world, and let us say amen...
so i'm not sure if that is what he says, but it would be very relevant since
it comes at the end of the mourners kaddish.. so i dunno... take it as you
will...

peace...shalom
sasha

hey my favorite listees--

my apologies for the nigc, but its my gf's birthday today, and she's feeling rather lonely so if y'all would like to drop her a line wishing her a happy one, it would be most appreciated. her name is brie & the e-mail is "fidlersg@olympus.net". thanks in advance...

btw, any news on the american journal situation? i'm beginning to get suspicious....

...wheels in motion...
greta

they are happening.

i swear

i will email you personally when i send them out.

-larissa

hello boys and girls out there in ig land (spoken with a bullwinkle accent):

i know imagine is not a beattles song, but it is my favorite song that lennon
wrote. to hear ig perform this and the harmonies and the guitars and jane s.
on cello and sheila d. and/or scarlette r. on violin. oooooh so this is
what heaven is like.

i would also like to hear with a little help from my friends, i am the
walrus, and her majesty would be great for sh*ts and giggles. but, ig
performing girl would send me over the edge.

cool thread!!!!!!!!! :)

imagine all the people sharing all the world..... john lennon

tx
pj

ok guys ....

so when are ig supposed to be on american journal - i taped it every night
last week and nothing ..... any ideas ????

taping of ig @ new hampshire demo show has slowed immensly, so i may offer my
dubbing services for newbies ... i'll announce it when i'm ready :)

chris # ??? <-- which one am i ??????

btw - how on earth do i get my b-day annouced ??? (it's dec 1st :)

sorry about the speakers y'all - we'll jump up on 'em later" - amy 4/3/95

because...pretty song!

ok ... for all the experts ....

can we come up with a list of all the wrong dates or shows ...whatever ...
listed on the page .... ????

i know there have been a few errors spotted already !!!!!!!!

chris

"none of amy's songs make sense to me" - emily on a local cable show ... ages
ago .....

hey everyone...
i was just wondering if anyone has the las cruces, nm show or any of the
texas shows and is interested in trading...

peace
sasha

hey ya'll-
has anybody read the story that goes along with the song, down by the
river?  i noticed in the liner notes that flannery o'connor had
written a story about it.  i love her - i read 'a good man is hard to
find" and was terrified it was so good!  i'd love to read this
particular story, so does anybody know anything more about it?  e-mail
me privately. thanks!! :)

kim

on mon, 25 nov 1996, sasha friedman wrote:

> hey everyone...
> i was just wondering if anyone has the las cruces, nm show or any of the
> texas shows and is interested in trading...
>

glad you asked!!!!!

hi all... this is carrie from new mexico.  i've made some wonderful
friends on the list and i expect to meet many more.  to answer sasha's
question....i taped the las cruces show on dat(thanks unknowingly to my
public radio station at which i am employed) and it came out fairly
good.  i was in the second row of bodies in the small venue at which the
girls played here in las cruces.  sooooooo......  after some great
experiences in the whole "boot" trading scene..i feel comfy offering the
boot to the list.  i'm sorry if it seems wayyyyyyy overdue but i wanted
to make sure i did this right.

so.. here's the deal.

the dat (digital audio tape, for the technologically impaired) recording
will take up a 90 minute cassette. the playlist is:
least complicated, hand me downs, it's alright, kind friend, get out the
map, tried to be true, winthrop, don't give that girl a gun, everything
in it's own time, bury my heart, caramia, chiapas bound, ghost, cut it
out, reunion, galileo, shame on you, and closer to fine.

if you're interested, email me back with "las cruces boot" in the subject
line.  depending on the response, branches may have to be set up.  if you
can be a branch, please let me know.  also...if you have anything ig
boots to trade, also tell me.  i'm slowly building up my boot collection
and would like to work out trades.  i'm going away for the thanksgiving
holiday so i will try to respond to those of you prior to leavingthat i
received your message.  i will set up a tape tree early next week.
so....respond right away if you want to get in on the bootleg trading frenzy.

i look forward to hearing from all of you.

carrie
chamblen@nmsu.edu

yo yippy yo indigo nuts,

hey, can anyone tell me how i can get a copy of that *faboo* computer program
for making tape case liners? i need it, since i am doing more dubbing these
days than eating cheese (and thats a lot, friends!).

i have a mac.

thanks for any leads in advance mes cheries!

susan

are there any law or pre law folk outthere who know about
divorce issues who could answer a question for me ( i'd ask my lawyer but
at $200 an hour, i'm trying to beg for free help)
thanks

"i've just seen a face"

it would play so well on the acoustics with
the harmonies. its fun and "boppy" and they's have an absolute blast
covering it....

-- chris

lots of kind people have offered me the tape now

thanks

yall are rad

i just have to pick someone to tape for me

i think jen wins

cause she was first

(i'm acting like this is an honor but its really a pain in the butt)

love to all

larisita

------
"for tonight i went running through the screen doors of discretion, for i woke
up from a nightmare that i could not stand to see, you were a-wandering out on
the hills of iowa, and you were not thinking of me..."
-dar williams

is this happening? i only have one vcr...but i want one it sounds beauteefulll

yup

love

larissa
--
"for tonight i went running through the screen doors of discretion, for i woke
up from a nightmare that i could not stand to see, you were a-wandering out on
the hills of iowa, and you were not thinking of me..."
-dar williams

i heard tried to be true on a radio station this morning in south hadley,
mass. whoa!

margaret

hey y'all,

    just wanted to put in my 2 cents about ani difranco.  my best friend
loves ani and a few years ago we used to drive around and she'd blast ani
and sing like crazy.  i hated it!  i did not like ani.  i'd yell at her to
turn it off and put in some ig damnit!  then, one day, ani came to town.  i
went to the show because everyone else was going and it was gonna be this
big social event.  then this tiny little woman in leather pants came on
stage in these giant boots and sang like no one else!  i was hooked
instantly!
    this year, my 30th birthday present to myself was a flight to san
francisco (from nm) to see ani play at the maratime hall.  i couldn't get
enough and rented a car and drove up to sacramento for her show there the
next night.
      if you don't think you like ani, go see her live.  it will change
your mind (and your life).  it did mine.

--sunny

ps. i'll post the on the road to austin video tree on thanksgiving.

if anyone still has the digests from monday, nov. 25 (these ones were
delayed and i got them tuesday morning) could you forward them to me? mine
got lost in cyberspace. does this count towards obsessed fan status?

also, in addition to my decatur confusion, is bumpershoot a typo for
bumbershoot? which should it be?

thanks guys!
lori

"the stars are the greatest thing you've ever seen, and they're there for
you,
for you alone, you are the everything" rem

>it is really hard to hear what he is saying, but he definitely starts out
>with " baruch ata adonai,  eloheinu melech haolam which means blessed is our
>god , ruler of the universe..  i'm not sure what he says next, but it sounds
>like it could be this part from the end of the mourners kaddish that goes
>"oseh shalom bimeromav, hu yaaseh shalom aleinu, ve'al kol yisrael, veimeru
>amen" which says.. may he who causes peace to reign in the  high heavens, let
>peace descend on us, on all israel, and all the world, and let us say amen...
> so i'm not sure if that is what he says, but it would be very relevant since
>it comes at the end of the mourners kaddish.. so i dunno... take it as you
>will...

i don't have the tape but the oseh shalom is a relatively widespread
verse...  it's used in many different tunes...  as for the mourners kaddish,
it does not begin with baruch ata adonai...  it's in a different, though
similar, language, aramaic...  it starts yitgadal v'yitkadash shm'e rabah,
v'almah...  and on and  on, it's the only prayer i can tolerate, actually,
but that's besides the point...  the point is, if you hear him go into
yitgadal v'yitkadash shm'e rabah, then you know it's the kaddish...  also,
the reform shema, at least, in my temple is along the lines of "shema
yisrael adonai elohenu, adonai echad.  baruch shem kvod malchuto le'olam
va'ed"  that could be the baruch ata adonai you heard...  there are millions
of things that start that way though...  see ya round,

your local agnostic and blood-jew,

alec

hi all!
this is my first post, so i hope that i am doing it correctly.  thanks so
much for all the boot offers and taking care of all of us newbies.  i know
that i really appreciate it a lot.  i have a request.  i am looking to get a
copy of the ig march 25, 1995 concert in austin at the backyard.  this was
the first time that i waw them in concert and have never been quite the same
since.  it would mean a lot to me to have this.  please, e-mail me if you
have and would be willing to share this concert with me.  thanks so much!

dena

hey y'all,
is there really such a program? i yes, i also have dubs to do till the
cows come home, or till i get an a in organic chem, and i think that the
odds for the cows are looking better, sad to say, so if anyone has any
info about this tape liner program for, iadmit it, i gave into bill gates,
a pc, then could you send the info my way? thanks y'all

veronica

-- amy ray
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

just out of curiosity, did anyone else get a newsletter from the indigo
girls fan club?  i got one in the mail today.  color me thrilled.  it has a
letter from russ, saying that they plan to tour, and a handwritten letter
from emily, she talks about planting tomatos and what she's been doing in
her time off, and the new album.  and a letter from amy, who tells about
her trip to mexico, and daemon records and some other stuff.  also there
are pictures of amy with the zapatistas and a new merchandise list.  it
sounds like they are trying to get the fan club thingy organized a little
better and he gives a web page addy (which i of course forgot to bring to
the computer lab to give to you, whoops, tomorrow)  anyway, just wondered
if anyone else got this, as i can't be the only one, hee!

peace, love, murdered turkeys and dumb holidays,

sundara<-- who would be rich if she had a dime for everytime she wrote
indigo girls

"my dreams came in like needy children
tugging at my sleeve,
i said i have no way of feeding you, so leave"

-emily

okay kids, i think i am almost in position to start working on the
(second) map live tape. for those of you who missed the conversation
before, i'm hoping to compile a tape of the stuff that will be on the new
album from all the shows in the demo tour, with some help from some little
elves (sunny and sundara, hope you don't mind that you just became elves).
hopefully it will be ready to "seed" by the beginning of january.

here's where you all come in!

i want to know what y'all think the song order should be. here are the
songs (i think it's all of them) that will be on this tape, hopefully
mimicking the cuts from the new album::
don't give that girl a gun
get out the map
leeds
hey kind friend
cara mia
it's alright
winthrop
cut it out
chiapas bound
shame on you
remember everything i told you
(maybe?> blood quantum)

the reason bq is in parentheses is because it is on honor1 and is unlikely
to be on the next album; however when people who don't have honor1 hear it
live they might be compelled to get honor1!

what we need is some lists of what order the album should be in.  let us
know if you think these are the correct songs, if i've missed any, or if
you think some of these won't be there/shouldn't be there for any reason.
let us know why you think your order should be it.  let us know if it's
what you think the order for the "real album" will be, or if it's what you
hope it will be.  and most important, let us know what you think the title
should be for this little live tape.

the point of this is to generate ideas for this project, but if the posts
get to be so many that we swamp the list, we may have to go to a plan b to
ease the load (i dunno, but i don't want to be responsible for hostility
on the list). i think the whole thing--song order contest and the tape
itself--will help tide us over until the album comes out.

on yer mark-get set-go.
gwen

*************************************************************************
"some people wear their hurt on their sleeve
i wear mine under my right pant leg, strapped to my boot..."--ani
******gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/notime1/home.htm

atlmouse@aol.com posted:
>subject: can anybody hear me?
>
>hi!
>i posted a coupla days ago, and haven't gotten any responses...
>maybe my idea has been discussed before, and everyone is tired of it.
>well, here's my post again, in case you did miss it!
>
>hey!
>which song snippits make the best wav files and how have you associated them
>with your computer functions?

        my program error noise is emily saying "oh i fucked it up... hold
on..." from the start of winthrop on a boot i can't look up cuz' it is in my
car.
        my "you have new mail" sound for eudora is emily going "whooo hoo!"
from 1200 right after joking.
        i would love to be using at least as many amy wavs... but just
haven't ... hmmm... odd since i am the card-carrying amy-type... must be b/c
gillian anderson wavs are too rampant at the moment.

once life here settles a little, jeni and i are going to work on an
ig theme for ms plus, methinks, and we'll make sure the wavs we install will
be outstanding.

tracy <settling in north seattle now>

"the story was not very solid,
and one man was too stupid to sympathize with."

-- jeni saulino, 2-10-94

i just wanted to do a little plug for carrie's las cruces boot. i just
got it today and the sound quality is amazing compared to most boots.
there is also a great version of cara mia on there!
ben

y'all -
if anybody wants a copy of a slightly kludgy tapeliner program, for pc,
(not for mac!), *and* you can accept a file attachment, email me & i'll
send it. it's called casemaker, & the only problem is, sometimes you
can't fit as many titles on it as you'd want - but you *can* extend the
titles onto the inside of the liner, or *only* have it print on the
inside if you like.

since i don't have a whole lot of boots yet, or decent dubbing
capability, glad to find something i can finally do!

kathy

this got lost in the original sending, 2 days ago, so i'll try again.
just my luck the original will end up on the list too & i'll look like a
geek. oh well. here goes:

oh! my! gawd! can't pass up this thread :d

amy: think for yourself  (sung with tongue firmly implanted in cheek)
     come together  (yes! yes!!! she'd be great on this!!!)
     back in the ussr
     polythene pam (or they both do the whole medley)

emily: wild honey pie
       revolver medley of: for no one + here there & everywhere +
                           eleanor rigby
        strawberry fields
        across the universe

both:  lucy in the sky with diamands
       ballad of john & yoko
       lovely rita  (sung loudly)
       help
       paperback writer
       can't buy me love

better stop now, or i'll get carried away & work my way through every
beatles song there is.... hey, that could be another thread: beatles
album of the week (baotw), where we divide all the songs on one album
between a&e... a little variation on the apparently defunct sotw. (just
kiddin, unless someone really wants to do it)

kathy

in a message dated 96-11-26 18:54:11 est, susan wrote:

<< hey, can anyone tell me how i can get a copy of that *faboo* computer
program
for making tape case liners? i need it, since i am doing more dubbing these
days than eating cheese (and thats a lot, friends!). >>

hey guys,

sorry, susan, i know nothing 'bout mac software ... but fyi for anybody else,
the caslinr38 program is shareware, if you register it costs you $12.  so i
guess i'm free to distribute it, as long as i send all the registration info
to anybody.  if you want to send me a blank disk i'll copy it for you.  not
sure yet if it'll do ok as an attachment.  there are actually 5 files.  my
other acct. has eudora where i can encode...so maybe that'd help?  <dunno>

g'nite all
lorie

in a message dated 96-11-26 18:54:11 est, you write:

<< "i've just seen a face"

it would play so well on the acoustics with
the harmonies. its fun and "boppy" and they's have an absolute blast
covering it.... >>

speaking of "boppy"....how about "i'm looking through you"?

sorry i've been so manically posting lately...but it's almost thanksgiving,
and i'm leaving, and i just wanted to tell y'all (before i bite the bullet
and sign off temporarily so as not to crash my mailbox :) how thankful i am
for the list and for ig!  wow...just thinking about what my life would be
like without ig!!!  ewwww!  y'all are great, everyone have a nice weekend...
love and tortillas and tortellinis  (are you happy, kar? :)
katy

hi y'all!
i know this might sound strange to some of you, but what the heck
is "take back the night"? emily posted something about it a while ago (on
friday, i think) and while i have heard the term before, i have never been
able to figure out what it stands for. am i in left field posting this to
the list? sorry. anyway, i've been curious for a while.....

=),
sherri

let me apologize right up front for having to send this to the entire list.
my old email address (mcarneiro@wow.com) is entirely screwed up as wow goes
through some type of reorg. this is totally frustrating since i am missing
all the list mail and also possibly some replies some of you may have made to
emails i sent to several people last week. i have not received any of my mail
since sunday. if any of you did try to contact me, please us my new address
... mellie2@aol.com. i am still working on this other mess and hope to be
resubscribed to the list off my new email address
shortly. hope i haven't missed anything important. thanks everyone !!!

enjoy yourself's, i am glad that i have you all...thinking of you all
(smile) what a great place this ig list is.

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november 26
ch002jt@arriba.nm.org (cranberry)
happy birthday, cranberry!!
yeah it sounds pretty cool to be without a care in some southern town
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound

weenracer@aol.com (lisa)
happy 15, lisa!!
i went lookin for a car
found myself beneath the stars
i went lookin for a girl
found a man and his world

have an indigo year!

the promised igc: amy drives a red pickup truck.  i know cos i saw her
yesterday, right here in the u district.  i was crazy tired so didn't say
anything, but it really looked like her.  she was lighting a cigarette.
the light changed and she turned the corner before i realized.  she
must've been on her way to carolyn's house for public speaking lessons
(hi, carolyn!).

love,
the bg

hey guys and gals!

here's a crazy trivia question for y'all. i'll be real surprised if i get a
quick answer to this one...

how do the following numbers relate to the indigo girls??

4/5 4/6 5/6 6/6 6/5

(will abigail, the self-proclaimed ig trivia goddess be the first to get
this.... :)

i have another question that's really my favorite, but i thought i would
have fun with this one first.

whatever,

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"i don't know what you saw,
i want someone who can see me" - dar williams, "as cool as i am"

a while ago i posted, asking this question, but never got any response--
how do you create wav. files???? i would love to put some ig, tori, etc. on
my computer, but don't knowhow. . . any help would be appreciated!

--rachael

hey y'all...

so i've put together a somewhat un-official soc tape of amy's chickenman stories, and a couple touch me fall & all along the watchtower improves. the only one i'm missing is her '95 b-day show, which i've been looking for for way too long. is there even an existing boot of this? anyway, the project is complete as of now, so interested folks can e-mail me for info. i'll take all the requests i can until i get swamped & then i may set up a tree, so if you want to, let me know if i can stick you tentatively on that as well.

by the way, thanks to ya'll who sent your best wishes to my sweetie on her b-day yesterday. much appreciated.

...wheels in motion...
greta

"and when i'm driving down the street and i see some guy with a bumpersticker i don't believe in, what i want to do--i mean i try to be understanding--but what i really want to do is go faster and faster and ram into the back of his car!!!!" -a.ray

just thought i'd share a nice suprise i got this week.  i'm fairly new
to the list and have been enjoying several of the generous newbie
offers that have been floating around (thanks susan, gwendigo, kristen,
simply v and others).  on sunday i got an urge to hear my favorite
roches song: hammond song.  i just had time to listen to it between
putting the kids to bed.  on monday, i came home to the happy sight of
padded envelopes, and upon opening, found purple parrot. i had no idea
it included the ig version of hammond song.  well, of course i put it
on immediately, with the roches' version still bouncing around in my
head.  made my day.

hugh barroll

hi everyone,

i would also like to know about the tape liner program, but i have an
ibm compatible. can someone e-mail me with info?

thanks,

donna

susan b. marine wrote:
>
> yo yippy yo indigo nuts,
>
> hey, can anyone tell me how i can get a copy of that *faboo* computer program
> for making tape case liners? i need it, since i am doing more dubbing these
> days than eating cheese (and thats a lot, friends!).
>
> i have a mac.
>
> thanks for any leads in advance mes cheries!
>
> susan
>

you wrote:
>better stop now, or i'll get carried away & work my way through every
>beatles song there is.... hey, that could be another thread: beatles
>album of the week (baotw), where we divide all the songs on one album
>between a&e... a little variation on the apparently defunct sotw. (just
>kiddin, unless someone really wants to do it)
>
hey i'd love to do it! but i'm not too sure everyone else would be up for
it. we could do it in order! the question is, should we do it in the british
release order or the capital release order? ummm maybe we just shouldn't do
it at all huh? nice thought though! maybe we could do it in private :)

jendy

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"nature, mr. alnutt, is what we are put in this world to rise above."

-katharine hepburn

well, i had a meeting for my history class today, and it wasn't the usual
people who were there, so we had to go around and say our names. i went
first, and my name's amy, so i said "amy". then the girl next to me said,
"emily." i thought that was cool.
plus, i have to write a paper for english, and i was trying to decide
between writing it on wuthering heights or to the lighthouse. while i was
thinking this i was listening to disc 1 of 12cc on shuffle, and as soon as
i decided to do it on to the lighthouse, then i hear out of my stereo,
"we're gonna do a song that i wrote for virginia woolf..." so i guess i
made the right decision!

peace,
amy

i was hoping to have the poster all finished for this post, but the
end-of-semester reality check is upon me and i have been somewhat
graphically uninspired. you can check out what i've got thus far at

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein/indigo-girls/poster-one.html

if anyone has ideas on how to spruce this up, and wants to download it
and try, go for it. if your own quote is included and you don't like my
editing job, let me know. i'll play with it a bit more over xmas break.

unrelated....i went to the 6th birthday party of my friend sara this
weekend. we drew with crayola fabric crayons on paper and then ironed
the designs onto shirts. so mine was a scribble-colored-in-square with
"i'm just a mirror of a mirror of myself" written on it, with the "of a
mirror" part written backwards.

turkeys and thanks,
audrey

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein for essays, photos, recipes, musings,
and book reviews.  stop in and rest awhile, then send your own profound
thoughts and inane questions to abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu.  no
purchase necessary.  personal happiness recommended but not guaranteed.

in a message dated 96-11-26 22:48:28 est, djarrell@ix8.ix.netcom.com
(dragonman) writes:

> how do the following numbers relate to the indigo girls??
>
> 4/5 4/6 5/6 6/6 6/5
>

ooh, ooh, ooh, i think i got it!! if you're still playing, then don't read
this! if you've given up or know the answer already then scroll down |

on each of the five studio albums, it's the # of songs that emily wrote and
the # of songs that amy wrote: for example, on sf, emily wrote 4 & amy 5, on
ig, emily wrote 4 & amy 6, etc.

did i get it, dwayne?

-sheri :)

i was driving home from the grocery store this evening and decided to turn
on the radio (instead of listening to a tape). as i tuned in the station i
heard some very familiar chords and thought, "strange fire. no, wait, i'm
listening to the radio it's not sf it's ... yes! it's strange fire. a live
version of strange fire. on the radio!"

of course i could not contain my excitement, so i turned it up loud. very
loud.tears of joy filled my eyes (no exaggeration here). i sang and yes,
karrie, my windows were rolled up!

so here's my question: what version of the song was i listening to? it was
live and amy said, "thanks, y'all. i love you," or something like that at
the end of the song. the audience noise was pretty faint. t'was not the 1200
c version.

oh sagacious listees, please impart your wisdom :)
thanks,
bon

i do hope that it is ok to send humor here to you all, but i just felt
the need to send you all something that made me laugh. if it is not ok,
then i will stop.... i know that most the post's are music related (smile)
happy turkey day!!!

this is a total crack up!!!!!!!
enjoy!! scott \,,/,

top 10 things that sound dirty at thanksgiving

1) reach in and grab the giblets.
2) whew, that's one terrific spread!
3) i'm in the mood for a little dark meat.
4) tying the legs together will keep the insides moist.
5) talk about a huge breast!
6) "and he forced his way into the end zone..."
7) she's 5000 pounds fully inflated and it takes 15
men to hold her down.
8) it's cool whip time!!!!
9) if i don't unbuckle my pants, i'm going to burst!
10) it must be broken, cause when i push on the tip,
nothing squirts out!

today i was driving around in my flower delivery van (thats my job) and
i saw an ig related item.
in eugene, where i live, recycling is a big deal (as it should be) and
we have these big colorful trucks that collect recycle. the trucks are
called "recycle zoo", they have six or so sections designated for
certain materials and named after animals, for example: cardboard
ardvark, and others i can't remember...anyway one of them is paper tiger
( you know from love will come to you) i know this is reaching but
still! so for the rest of the afternoon guess what i sang?!?!

another thing i do since i'm trapped in a car all day long...i don't
have a tape deck and they never play ig on the radio here so when a good
song can't be found i turn down the radio and pick and ig song! these
silly little things make my day that much brighter ( or "indigo", if you
will) ;)

bye now, catherine

"...and my words are paper tigers no match for the preditor of pain
inside her..."

well, after nearly a year away, and reconfiguring my life to send myself
back to graduate school and yadda, yadda, i'm back. after viewing a few
posts, i don't see too many familiar faces--any of the old folks i once knew
(those now looking at thirty as an age that doesn't seem too old or who have
looked at it as it flew past a few years ago) still around?

i hear rumblings, reviewing my first day of posts, of a new album and
something called a demo tour. (if this tour hit nyc after 9/1 or south
carolina during the summer i will punch myself about the head) all is right
in the world then. damn this writer's life that keeps me quiet in a room.
but, then not really.

i have been going back to the old tapes these days, worn out by 1200 and my
boots. going back to the ep, sf, and live at wrek and thinking back to the
days, the days when.

and here i am, back on the list, seeing all these newbies (and a fond
welcome from an absent old timer) and feeling old, old, old. color me one
who soon will request the digest i think. i'm a little bit of everything today.

peace,
bill (formerly wnorris@drew.drew.edu, wnorris@soulcage.inmind.com, now
wnorris@mail.slc.edu)

p.s. i-girl, if you're still out there, hello from one with gray creaping
into his head.

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| graduate studies       that we can add to the treasury of moments."      |
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karey weisman eals <karey@u.washington.edu> writes:
> november 26

*sniff* of all the prople to forget!

-jude

ps: and with that beatles song thread going on, too.. ;)

hey everyone,

        i haven't posted in a while because i've been extremely busy....but i
really wanted to thank everyone who responded to my "plea"
for ideas on a senior quote.  everybody's suggestions were wonderful.
as i am posting this, i am also putting the finishing touches on my
senior quote, which is to be handed in tomorrow.  thanks again!!!!
--
                            <><><><><><><><><><><><>
                                   jonny wu
                              wuman@warwick.net
                                   a+e=ig
                            <><><><><><><><><><><><>

                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

on tue, 26 nov 1996, lori brinkman wrote:

>
> also, in addition to my decatur confusion, is bumpershoot a typo for
> bumbershoot? which should it be?
>
> thanks guys!
> lori

the music festival that takes place labor day weekend in seattle is
'bumbershoot.' a lot of people think it's bumpershoot, but bumbershoot
refers to an umbrella. appropriate name for a festival that takes place
in seattle weather. :)

specifically:

bumbershoot (bmber-sht) noun
an umbrella.
[alteration of umbrella + alteration of (para)chute.]

hope that helps.

have a great day.

carolyn

i just got a tape liner program from the america online software center. it's
pretty good and really easy to use.

the program is shareware, but if i send the registration and all the info,
there shouldn't be a problem.

it is for ibm comp. computers, i'll keep my eye out for anything for mac.

aol users -- check the software center, they have about 13 different liner
programs. i've looked at about 5 of them and this one seems to be the best.

anyone interested can e-mail me and i'd be happy to make a copy for you.

smiles : )
annemarie

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              kristin mcdonough <kmcdonou@emerald.tufts.edu>,
              kim hoare <gumbyh@aol.com>,
              beth herr <st951302@pip.cc.brandeis.edu>,
              go naked <tarydel@princeton.edu>, dumbass <richardeme@aol.com>,
              "katherine l. byers" <klbyers@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
              "stacey v. smith" <svsmith@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
              bitch girl <hlibrie@eden.rutgers.edu>,
              steve weisenthal <stephen.d.weisenthal@dartmouth.edu>

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 27 nov 1996 01:06:57 -0500 (est)
from: "elizabeth a. williamson" <eaw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
to: "krista l. haley" <klhaley@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
    "jessica a. milby" <jamilby@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
    "amy e. burke" <amyburke@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
    "will t. devries" <wdevries@phoenix.princeton.edu>,
    "rachel b. person" <rbperson@phoenix.princeton.edu>
subject: re: save the only one democraty radio station in zagreb, croatia , , (fwd)

hi - if this is legitimate, it's pretty cool. i hope so...
-e
---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 26 nov 1996 22:05:31 -0500 (est)
from: stephanie kate purdy <skpurdy@umich.edu>
to: ari kohen <kohenari@pilot.msu.edu>
cc: gabe.sawhney@utoronto.ca, barrona@carleton.edu, mleab@artsci.wustl.edu,
    lori kauffman <lkauffma@smith.smith.edu>, jmackenzie@eagle.wesleyan.edu,
    dave nelson <nelsonde@umich.edu>,
    carolyn schneyer <caschneyer@vassar.edu>, overs095@alma.unibo.it,
    eaw@phoenix.princeton.edu
subject: re: save the only one democraty radio station in zagreb, croatia , , (fwd)

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: thu, 21 nov 1996 10:25:44 +0100 (met)
from: sara bursacy <sara@mudrac.ffzg.hr>
to: jbradley@umich.edu, bkelley@umich.edu, monicaam@umich.edu,
    bursac@fas.harvard.edu, mbursac@aol.com, st950333@pip.cc.brandeis.edu,
    ijanssen@smith.smith.edu, bob@commonwealth.pvt.k12.ma.us,
    skpurdy@umich.edu, tnr@umich.edu, crees.students@umich.edu
subject: re: save the only one democraty radio station in zagreb, croatia , , (fwd)
> >> --------------------- forwarded message --------------------
> >> dear friends:
> >>
> >>         please help save radio 101 in zagreb, croatia from being
> >> canceled!!!  just add your name to the list and send the message to
> >> everyone you know.
> >>
> >>         this message is brought to you by the letter "h" (for help)
> >>         and the number  "1,000,000"  (for the number of names we want to
> >>         sign).
> >>
> >>                   thank you.
> >>         __________________________________________
> >>
> >>                    save radio 101 from being cancelled!!!!!!
> >>
> >>         this is a petition to save radio 101 in zagreb, croatia.  all
> >> you do is add your name to the list at the bottom, then forward it to
> >> everyone you know.
> >>
> >>         the only time you send it to the included address is if
> >>         you are the 50th,100th, etc. send it on to everyone you
> >>         know.
> >>
> >>         croatian "democraty" goverment belives that this radio station
> >> is dealing against state, while this is the only station left which is
> >> dealing with democraty informations in croatia!
> >>
> >> please add your name to this list if you believe in what we
> >>         stand for.
> >>
> >>         this list will be forwarded to the goverment of the republic
> >> croatia!
> >>
> >>         if you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, etc. signer of
> >>         this petition, please forward to:
> >>
> >>
> >>         root@r101.com.hr
> >>
> >>                      and
> >>
> >>         www-admin@vlada.hr
> >>
> >>
> >>         this way we can keep track of the lists and organize them.
> >>
> >>         forward this to everyone you know, and help us to keep
> >>         this radio station alive!.
> >>
> >>          thank you.
> >>
> >>         ------------------------------------
> >>
> >         signatures
> >
> >
> >1. drago markovic, zagreb, croatia
> >2. sanda petris, zagreb, croatia
> >3. antun sunjic, zagreb, croatia
> >4. maja dawidowsky, zagreb, croatia
> >5. maja vickovic, zagreb, croatia
> >6. vladimir vuksan, albuquerque, usa
> >7. bruno scap, chico, usa
> >8. bruno ancic,zagreb,croatia
> >9. lovro seder, zagreb, croatia
> >10.nikola fox, zagreb, croatia
> >11.zvonko tesic, zagreb, croatia
> >12. neven jacmenovic, zagreb, croatia
> 13. daniel kasaj, zagreb, croatia
>  14. klara mikulic, zagreb, croatia
> 15. miroslav wranka, osijek/zagreb, croatia
> 16. sara bursac, zagreb, croatia--
> 17.  stephanie purdy, ann arbor, usa
  18. elizabeth williamson, usa
> 19.  krista haley, usa
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    daniel kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr    url: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   home : borovje 8, zagreb, croatia                    phone - (01) 6131-435
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

susan, who owns a mac (yessssss!) wondered about a tape liner
program. the one i use is the template that comes with pagemaker.
pagemaker is pricey, but if you need it for work (as i do), there
are many cool things it does besides flyers, newsletters, et al.

i'm workin' on scannin' cool stuff for my cassette liners.

the cassette liner is over in the additions menu.

hope this helps.

ann

--
what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind
at all is being very wasteful.
-dan quayle

hi there...i haven't written to the list in such a long time that i
almost feel like a newbie again!
i have a big question to all of you in san francisco...one of my
friends is going to the agu conference there in mid-december and she
said that if she knew what to get and where to get it, she'd bring me
back some ig stuff. so does anyone know where and what ig things (ie
t-shirts, posters, stickers etc) are sold in san francisco, what
prices are like and how someone who was new to the city would be able
to find stuff. i'd really appreciate any info...i have no ig
posters or t-shirts and am feeling very bare!!
thanks
love helene

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"steer clear of the shore, the coast is rough and rocky" kate wolf
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helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
coastal research group
department of environmental studies
university of ulster, coleraine, bt52 1sa
northern ireland
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hey y'all...

i'm still a newbie on the list so go easy on me...i have a question. i saw
4.5 at circuit city for around $24, and i want to know before i spend that
much on it if that's a good price for it. is it worth $24 if it is a fair
price?

email me privately 'cause i'm sure this has been discussed before i joined. =)

just wanted to say also that i'm thankful for the wonderful people on this
list who have taken pity ;) on newbies and helped them start a boot
collection without asking for anything for themselves. i'm also thankful
for this list period. it's really helped me to learn more about ig and more
about some issues that i didn't know much about.

smiles,

shanna

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
   _               |sfreeman@coe.uga.edu
_<_\_       "     |
<_    \__          |now i know a refuge
  |   ' /'   """.  |never grows from
   \___/     *  "  |a chin in a hand
   /===\   /  ""   |in a thoughtful pose
  |=||==|==d       |gotta tend the earth
  |= \d=|  |       |if you want a rose
   \===/   |    "  |
"   \\o\\o  "  "   |            --emily
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

hey all-
i've not seen anything on the atlanta artists list about the fact that
wendy bucklew is moving from atlanta to southern california at the end of
december. she's got a few more shows between now and then:

november 27 lulu's, atlanta
december 11 lulu's, atlanta
december 15 red light cafe, atlanta

the 15th of dec is her last atlanta before she moves..

she said at her show the other night that her cd would be out sometime in
january and that she would be doing a tour to support it sometime.

take care all,
brooke

****************http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html******************

  (diz quote be here for you sbs)
"..underneath this cynicism,
     there's a girl who believes your
      wisdom,
       good things come to those who wait..."-jg/rr

****************************************************************************

>i was driving home from the grocery store this evening and decided to turn
>on the radio (instead of listening to a tape). as i tuned in the station i
>heard some very familiar chords and thought, "strange fire. no, wait, i'm
>listening to the radio it's not sf it's ... yes! it's strange fire. a live
>version of strange fire. on the radio!"
>
>so here's my question: what version of the song was i listening to? it was
>live and amy said, "thanks, y'all. i love you," or something like that at
>the end of the song. the audience noise was pretty faint. t'was not the 1200
>c version.

it's from a new complition cd called "woman live from mountain stage". it
came out last month and other tracks include ani's "ego's like hairdos" and
dar williams' "when i was a boy". it is in stores now and is on the blue
plate music label.

i know this because there is a radio station here in milwaukee that has a
"women's music" show on sunday nights. it's really cool because it's the
only chance i get in this town to hear ig, ferron, ani, kristen and the
like on the radio.

any how, when i tuned in to the show this past sunday, the dj was reading
the names of the songs she had just played the previous segment. one of the
songs was strange fire. i was bummed that i missed it but then thought,
"mountain stage? what's that?" well a web search took me to
<http://www.telalink.net/~ohboy/bpm_artists.html> where i got more info on
the cd.

deb

hey ya'll!

i just got a new laptop computer and it came loaded with a screen saver
called sony screeners. there are 5 videos loaded that come up as screen
savers (i chose gloria estefan's "live for loving you" - oooooooo, la, la,
la, la, la!)

anyway, the small print on the back page says "more music screeners are
available at your local record and computer store." so, can you guess who
has an available sony music screener screen saver video? you guessed it!
the indigo girls! (also available, shawn colvin, toad the wet sprocket, and
a host of others....)

"hello, santa? this is joni...um...what i want for christmas...well, i
think i've been a good girl...um...could i please please please please have
the indigo girls screener? puhleese?"

i don't think i can wait until christmas...i think it's time for a
pre-christmas present to myself! yay! have a great day!

joni :o)

on tue, 26 nov 1996 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> i just wanted to do a little plug for carrie's las cruces boot. i just
> got it today and the sound quality is amazing compared to most boots.
> there is also a great version of cara mia on there!

thanks ben!! glad you enjoyed it. i was really lucky, needless to say
so i want to spread it around.

so...if you haven't gotten on the bandwagon and want to get the boot,
make sure you email me and let me know.

for those of you who celebrate turkey day, have a good one and i'll be
talking to ya'll on monday or tuesday with all the details.

carrie

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%%%%%%%%%%%              carrie hamblen         "i believe all americans who
%     ###########       morning edition host    believe in freedom, tolerance
  %     #       #        krwg 90.7 fm            and human rights have a
   %   % #     #         las cruces, new mexico  responsibility to oppose
    % %   #   #          chamblen@nmsu.edu       bigotry and prejudice based
     %     # #                                   on sexual orientation"
            #                                      --coretta scott king
*****************************************************************************

if ya want it, and you have a mac, go to

ftp://grind.isca.uiowa.edu/mac/infomac/app

and its there as shareware.

thanks to drew for cluing me in!

susan
happy turkey day- or not (winking at sundara)

november 27
jeni saulino
was: saulinoj@olywha.evergreen edu
is (temporarily): grnrgrrl@geocities.com (send bday greetings here)
will be: happy to get your bday greetings
happy 23rd, jeni!!!
gotta get outta bed, get a hammer and a nail
learn how to use my hands, not just my head
i think myself into jail
now i know a refuge never grows from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose
gotta tend the earth if you want a rose

(sorry it's not from rop)
yeah, though, compliment her on her new muscles that she must have from
moving!

december 1
sms6@cec.wustl.edu (lethargo-man)
happy birthday!!
in georgia lights are softer than a whisper
like a quilt somebody's mother made by hand
and the smoke from the factories meets its maker in the sky
and the song that winter wrote, its melody lingers...

guinione@aol.com (chris #?)
happy birthday, chris!!
so we must love, while these moments are still called today
take part in the pain of this passion play
stretching our youth as we must, until we are ashes to dust,
until time makes history of us.

have an indigo year!

the bg apologizes most heartily and humbly to jude, but she does not seem
to have that birthday listed anywhere.

everybody have a good long weekend and travel safely.
love,
the bg

i was cruising the epic site and saw the ig screen saver available
in the download setcion....but i couldn't make it work.....
mabe one of you (ahem) all can figgur' it out, eh ?

oh well....anyway the 'ellen' screen saver has been buggin' the hell
out of me...i just have to tell her to shut up because
she keeps telling me to get back to work....grrrr

yknib

i was driving home from work and saw a
highway patrol car parked by the median of
the freeway with his lights on...he looked
like he was struggling with something and as
i passed i saw that he was trying to get a
panicked doggie into his cruiser.

he succeeded :)

one *less* life...for the taker.

love, yknib

i just wanted to say a quick thanks to all those lovely people who
responded to my post yesterday! you guys cleared that right up for me. i
appreciate it. oh, and for the one or two who asked....the emily i referred
to was the one from the list *not emily*, i wish i had those kind of
connections! =) sorry, i probably shoud have clarified it, but i was
working at disneyland until 5am.... and just a tad groggy!

happy turkey day!
sherri

##############################################################################
if all the world's a stage, where the hell is my spotlight?

- cole porter
###################################################################

hi
someone posted about a need for mac cassette liner programs.  i have 2, one
says it is for fuji?  i don't know what the difference is.  they are in
clarisworks format, i believe they are set up as templates.  if you want me
to send them to you let me know.

lisa

het you'se guys (and girrrls)
i screwed up man...
i guess you can get the ig saver in a store...they have a list
at :
http://www.sony.com/music/multimedia/

i thought you could download it from there but you can
only download michael jackson (aiieeeeeee !!!!)
oh well.... no wonder it wouldn't work.

bink

hi y'all!

i'm on a desperate search for ig boots. problem - i'm quite new here (about a week), and have no idea how this works. i also have nothing to trade. so if anyone's still interested in helping me out, i'm looking for color me grey especially, and anything else anyone recommends (i'm trying to start a collection, and don't know where to begin). please email me at ophelia@ici.net. thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!

fare thee well,
beth

hey all,

came across the latest isue of billboard mag, and the illustrious amy ray
has a small picture on the front page, right next to chuck d. :) its an
article about artists that get their music and themselves involved in
political issues. there's also a commentary on how much influence
musicians really have...ani's got her pic for that article.

have a great thanksgiving, all...

sharon

hi all,
i checked out the poster you mentioned. i realize i've been absent for a
long time, so i don't know what the latest run of "you know you're an
obsessed ig fan when..." posts was like, but we've had this thread
before, and _somewhere_, _someone_ has an archive (i think) of literally
dozens of these things (and yes, they were hilarious.) what's on the
poster so far is great, but there should be more more more! who kept that
list before? was it kate r-w? (of course, i'm no help cuz i can't
remember any of 'em.) oh well.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo
(who finally has her new sig up and running)

lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

okay y'all, sllloooooowwww down. i'm posting a small boot tree as to ease some of the tension on me here...please keep in mind that these ladies do not have their tapes in-hand yet, but will be getting them as soon as possible.

all right. i'm taking aquarius, pisces and aries.
greta
cgohn@olympus.net

taurus
anna
alcruz@mercury.sfsu

gemini
sherri
slj@csulb.edu

cancer
alexanda
aaogilvie@aol.com

virgo
jen
jlucero@monmouth.com

libra
lorie
mediamongr@aol.com

scorpio
betsy
bbertiaux@spectrumctls.com

sagittarius
pj
pjhoopie@aol.com

capricorn
amy
litlbits@ix.netcom.com

so there it is....hope everybody enjoys it. sorry to those who already mailed me, but i promise this'll take much less time.

...wheels in motion...
greta

"and when i'm driving down the street and i see some guy who has a bumpersticker i don't believe in, what i want to do--i mean i try to be understanding--but what i really wan to do is go faster and faster and ram into the back of his car!!!!" -a. ray

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