lifeblood: listlogs: 1996-12e


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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 00:01:34 -0600
reply-to:     "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
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from:         "hsu amber r. batson" <arbatson@hsutx.edu>
subject:      not much igc (but a little)

hey indigroupies (am i the first one to think of this?)
        ok< 1st the big ig content.  i was at my best friend's house and
her sister got me.  we got in this little "i know more about ig than
you" conversation (she's probably indirectly responsible for my
fanhood).  i said emily has a 4-runner, my brother said they're
vegetarians, she said one of their dads is a southern baptist minister,
i corrected her - emily's dad is a prof. of theo. @ emory (methodist),
and then she said that one of their dads sings background in a song on
so.  i haven't heard this--i should have looked really close at the so
credits, oops, didn't think of that.  my friends' sis might join the
mailing list, oh joy, that's good, but she'll probably be able to beat
me.  list content - do you think that some of us indifreaks could
create, like, a caravan or something to follow the ig this summer for a
little while on tour?
        i miss ya'll, i haven't checked my email for 1 week.  i decided
not to unsubscribe, but it still is a long distance phone call.  i
wanted to email you earlier, but i had to go see scream (i swallowed my
gum) - some good ig poster views--forget the boyfriend.  <--- i wore my
"secret code rainbow with silver sequin, bought 2 sizes too big because
they were the last pair like that, on sale" doc martens and an ig hat.
i want a poster like that!  maybe it will be subliminal promotion for
map :)  *let's make a countdown till march 4* ok, ok, so maybe that's
stupid. i almost just said something that would give the movie away -
email me if you want to know.  wouldn't that be weird if you just went
to see a movie, and realized that your poster and picture was in the
background?  i would wonder how many people would really notice me.
in case you care what i got 4 xmas:  so bumper sticker, black ig hat,
green 1200c sweatshirt, reunion single (came with the purchase), oh &
most important - the newsletter, and then other stuff.
in case you care what i gave 4 xmas: 1200c <--my aunt, so hte shirt
<--my best friend
amber - sorry for bandwidth

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 01:13:10 -0500
reply-to:     jennifer wagner <ubigirl@erie.net>
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from:         jennifer wagner <ubigirl@erie.net>
subject:      nigc ;  padded bras

brenda wrote:
----------
> uhmm.........stick em in yer bra ;)  theres always room for improvements
in
> the market.......they'd be recyclable.........eco-friendly but probably
would
> wash well ;)
>
> --

does the world really need more padded bras?  i can't believe how hard it
is to find an unpadded bra!!!  do the people who make them really think
someone with a d cup needs padding???  well, i guess i'll just stick with
my sport bras.....which, btw, goes along with the old posts and signals
for picking out lesbians.  definitely sport bras!!!  for anyone having
trouble picking us out, i do have a wonderful book called the dyke
detector which is full of helpful hints.....

signed,
jennifer, a very frustrated bra shopper

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 01:20:27 -0500
reply-to:     "christy c." <cgc522@gnn.com>
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from:         "christy c." <cgc522@gnn.com>
subject:      many questions and comments:)

okay, i must admit that i finally got to see the live at the uptown lounge
a couple of days ago.  (my daddums was quite impressed and wants me tp tell
him when they will be playing near him...neat, huh?:p)  it was awesome, as
the girls always are, but what was the deal with certain shots like "up
close and personal with amy's knee"?  alos, they kept doing semi-close-ups
on some concertgoer in the very back who was wearing a dress and short
brown hair.  is she of some significance to the ig?
plus,i recently listened to the studio version of bury my heart, and i
rilly like that little dismayed guitar noise after "you can still be an
indian down at the y on a sat, night.":)
about dgtgag--is it "she's alredy won" or "one"?

okay that's enough; i've been stockpiling for too long:)

luv to all, christy:)
(i don't know why i'm into these middle school-esque misspellings tonight:)
a bit of advice from my guide to chihuahuas:

            "don't succumb to chiuahua blackmail or you may be
             a slave to your dog's gastronomical whims for years
             to come."

does anyone else find this funny? :)

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 01:22:53 -0500
reply-to:     sanawike1@aol.com
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from:         sanawike1@aol.com
subject:      re: nigc ; padded bras

in a message dated 96-12-28 01:18:43 est, you write:

> for anyone having
>  trouble picking us out, i do have a wonderful book called the dyke
>  detector which is full of helpful hints.....

i would just like to take this moment to mention a hilarious book called "so
you want to be a lesbian". =)  i bought it for a list friend (and had to skim
it first, you know, to make sure it was approprite...) and it's _so_ funny!
=)  i can't remember the author right now; i'll see if i can find out
tomorrow.  anyone else read this?  just curious... peace, loce, and lots of
sports bras for this barbie doll, sarah

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date:         fri, 27 dec 1996 22:51:53 -0800
reply-to:     "s. lingwood" <lingwood@u.washington.edu>
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from:         "s. lingwood" <lingwood@u.washington.edu>
subject:      scratched ig cd uses

me me me! i have an idea! (okay, so i stole it from my brother, but that's
ok.)

my brother has a rather nifty clock which he made in his 7th grade shop
class using a cd. it's a wood backing, cut and painted however you want
(his is a black music note), with the pretty unlabeled side of the cd
forming the circular part of the clock face, and then i guess you just
stick the clock machinery through the wood somehow, however you would make
a normal clock.

so my suggestion is: (yet more merging of threads) is to take some of
sundara's padded envelopes, decorate them however you want, stick a cd on
the outside and make it into a clock.

or you could just try to throw it as a frisbee--i've got it! bring 'em to
concerts and play ultimate frisbee with them as an alternative to the
cliched beach ball.

make cd houses (a la card houses)
shred them for cat litter <--probably blasphemous
or for the bottom of bird cages <--also probably blasphemous
make a disco ball out of them (see, then you could play abba and be close
to your ig discs at the same time)
cut them into strips and make them into chains for your car (particularily
useful for us pnwers)
lampshades
coasters
fine components in landscape art (stepping stones)
ornaments
declare march 8th national smiley day, paint smiley faces on your cd's,
and send them to random people around the nation (hey, it's under 16
ounces...it's not a mail bomb)
or, for you pessimistic people, declare march 7th national frownie day and
do likewise
make clothes from them for your official padded envelope amy and emily
dolls
tape them to your computer so you can post nigc and stare at the pretty
rainbows at the same time
wallpaper (texture! texture!)
ice scrapers (also for us pnwers)
ice skates (for the frozen-over hamma hamma river)
key chains: i can see it now! "it's the be-all and end-all to ordinary
keychains....never lose your keys again! just send 17.95 (plus 2.95
shipping and handling) to stephanie....

okay, _way_ too much boredom for me.
:) steph

________________________________________________________________
stephanie lingwood                     lingwood@u.washington.edu
    "and i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong"
______________________________-indigo girls, "it's alright"_____

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 02:58:24 +0000
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
subject:      re: scratched cd's

        hi y'all,

        i love all of the creative ways to recycle scratched cd's but i have a
suggestion that may make them playable again.  a friend in the music biz
suggested that by using a green sharpie (has to be green...i don't know
why) and coloring in the scratch, the cd may become salvageable.
        note:  my disclaimer...i haven't tried it, so i don't know if it works,
but if your cd's are in poor enough shape to not be playable anymore, try
it and let me know if it works!!

        peace,

                jen  (who has a lifetime supply of wall music guarantee stickers and
hasn't had to try the green sharpie yet <g>)


"just remember nothing is the end of the world,
     until the world comes to an end"  es

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 10:00:50 -0500
reply-to:     blf2222@aol.com
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from:         brenda funaro <blf2222@aol.com>
subject:      cool pics of ig!

just to let the group know, there are some awesome downloadable gifs and jpgs
of the girls in the rolling stone forum.........a great one of amy ray and
one of the girls sitting on a car at night. you will also be able to read the
article about the new album.  well enjoy!   bren

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 11:22:34 -0500
reply-to:     weenracer@aol.com
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from:         weenracer@aol.com
subject:      rolling stone -- help!

okay... somebody posted about a good pic of ig in the rolling stone forum...
but they didn't say precisely how to get there...   i'm going crazy here
trying to find exactly where this picture is located, so i'm giving up for
now, and hopefully someone will be nice enough to help me out.

i love my computer
i love my computer
i love my computer

ugh!
--lisa

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 11:40:55 -0500
reply-to:     sam22479@aol.com
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from:         "samantha a. weisman" <sam22479@aol.com>
subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?

ronald boliday writes:
> does buying their cds used "hurt" them?  i would seem to think so because
>  you're piggy-backing on somebody else's purchase.
etc.

     maybe, if your assuming that every person who would buy the cd used
would also buy it at full price if they had to.  my first ig cd was rop--i
heard a couple girls at school playing guitar and singing "galileo" and i was
like *wow*--amazing song.  i found out what it was, but not being able to
afford a cd based on one song's worth of knowledge, i didn't act right then.
but a couple weeks later i was rumaging through piles & piles in a used cd
store when...suddenly...it *jumped* out at me.  (god knows if your actually
*looking* for something in a used cd store you won't find it)  i thought
that's weird... i can afford it... the forces of the universe are obviously
telling me to buy it!  so i bought it and took the lovely rop home, played
it.........and that was the beginning of my love affair with ig.  bought at
full price all the others.  but i never would have gotten to that point if it
wasn't for that one used cd.

wasn't that a heart warming story?

sam in cincinnati--where is is raining and/or hailing instead of snowing, and
we did *not* have a white christmas :(

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 11:58:29 -0500
reply-to:     nitelite6@aol.com
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from:         rose west <nitelite6@aol.com>
subject:      indigo girls - rolling stone

here's the article that i found in the rolling stone area on aol,
(printed without permission)

the indigo girls plug in and find a new place on the 'map'

fresh off the platinum success of 1994's "swamp ophelia" and 1995's
double-live album "1,200 curfews," the normally-subdued indigo girls will
pump up the volume on their new record, tentatively titled "map," set for
release next april. fans expecting the harmonious folk rock of indigo girls
past may, however, be in for a bit of a surprise; those elements are present,
but they'll be nudged into the shadows in favor of a new and much more
electric sound.

"there's a bunch of electric guitars and experimenting with new instruments
like the banjo, mandolin, dobro, dulcimer, keyboards -- pretty much organic,"
says emily saliers, one-half of america's favorite driving folk duo. "it's
more of a guitar record than in the past."

the indigos, expanding on what began with swamp ophelia's "touch me fall" --
their first electric foray -- are currently putting the finishing touches on
"map" in atlanta's southern tracks studio. in another first, saliers and
partner amy ray are producing the record themselves, along with david leonard
(prince, john mellancamp) and peter collins.

guest musicians include country blues boy steve earle, atlanta indie-rockers
smoke and violinist lisa germano. native american vocalist trio ulali, who
the indigos have previously worked with on the "honor the earth" campaign,
are also featured on the disc. provisional song titles include the
straightforward, stripped-down rocker "scooter boys," the forlorn,
piano-laden "leeds" and the eastern european-influenced "everything in it's
own time."

in support of the new release, the indigos will hit the road in late march,
gigging at major venues, college campuses and even at some high schools
towards the end of '97. not all of the new sounds and experimental twitching,
however, will easily translate to the stage, but, according to saliers, the
need for the band to grow and change itself is more pressing. "we've done a
lot of things that we won't be able to re-create live for this record," says
saliers. "but we don't care."

kevin raub
(dec. 23, 1996)

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 12:08:01 +0000
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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from:         jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
subject:      re: rolling stone info

        hi y'all,

        took me a little while, but i found the article and photo...

        go to http://www.rollingstone.com

        click on the random notes section, then at the bottom of the screen run a
search for the indigo girls...and the 12/23/96 snippet comes up complete
with a title and photo link that has me a bit confused..."scooter boys"...??

        take care,

                jen

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 12:16:59 -0500
reply-to:     blf2222@aol.com
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from:         brenda funaro <blf2222@aol.com>
subject:      re: rolling stone info
x-to:         jlucero@mail.monmouth.com

if anyone wants a cool gif of amy ray.........just email me and i'll send it
out..bren

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 14:26:07 -0600
reply-to:     susanna kwan <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         susanna kwan <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
subject:      re: rolling stone info by way aol
x-to:         jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>

at 12:08 pm 12/28/96 +0000, jen lucero wrote:
>        hi y'all,
>        took me a little while, but i found the article and photo...
>        go to http://www.rollingstone.com
>        click on the random notes section, then at the bottom of the screen
run a
>search for the indigo girls...and the 12/23/96 snippet comes up complete
>with a title and photo link that has me a bit confused..."scooter boys"...??
>

or you can go to keyword and type rolling stone and it'll take you there...

i am also very confused with this "scooter boys" thingy... anyone have any
clue on what that is?????????  if you know, puh-leazzz share!!!

later all,

--sue

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be."
                                --a.r.

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 15:27:29 -0500
reply-to:     pjhoopie@aol.com
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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      a+e=ig quilt

hey,

i was just taking a shower (some of my best ideas come to me in the shower)
my legs are still wet and daemon is licking the water off my ankles.  i
couldnt wait to share my idea.  i have been trying for years to find a way to
thank a&e for all of the gifts i receive from their music and the examples of
their lives.  i have seen people make individual quilt squares/patches and
someone sew them together then they give it to the person they are honoring.

wouldnt it be cool for all of the fans (not only list fans, but, any other
fans we know) to make a quilt for them.  we could have two patch sizes:

large for groups - like if an area (example-pnw) wants to have a party and
make a large quilt patch.

small - for individuals.

on the back it could say something like "thanks y'all, we love you."

i want to organize this.  i am going to try and make sure they get it
personally.  going through the fan club does not feel like an option.
so what do you think?  could this be cool or what?  daemon (my cat) likes it
- he is dreaming of all the thread he can play with.  :^)   off to dry my
hair before i go play in the snow.

peace
pj and "little d"

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 13:43:34 -0800
reply-to:     candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
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from:         candice gohn <cgohn@olympus.net>
subject:      scooter boys...

i am also very confused with this "scooter boys" thingy... anyone have any
clue on what that is?????????  if you know, puh-leazzz share!!!

okay...here's greta's take on the situation...

could they be referring to the line which i (and i'm sure most of you) always referred to as "screwed up boys and argentineans/ europe shed the blood of the indians..."  i dunno.  wild guess...

...way too cold to be even mentally dancing barefoot in the mud...
-g

"i could never work up the guts to kill anything, so i decided to just eat plants"
-a. ray

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 16:40:20 est
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?
in-reply-to:  <961228114054_1222859725@emout19.mail.aol.com>; from "samantha a.
              weisman" at dec 28, 96 11:40 am

i agree, and i think the same is actually true about copying commercial cds.
granted, it's wrong to, say, tape a friend's copy of a cd simply to avoid
buying it yourself. but if there's no way in hell you would ever buy the cd,
whether used or new, i really don't see where copying hurts anyone. what do
y'all think?
kirsten, donning her asbestos underwear

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 17:05:10 -0500
reply-to:     "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
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from:         "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
subject:      nigc:  funny lesbian book

hi y'all!

just checking in on the mailbox and saw the conversation re: good "l" books.
i got one for christmas and so far,  it's pretty funny.  it's called
"lesbianism made easy" by helen eisenbach.   there's a bunch of reviews on
the back of the jacket, one of which made me laugh out loud.  it's by harry
shearer of "saturday night live" and "the simpsons" fame.  he says:  "helen
eisenback has walked the entire concept of the self-help book upstairs.  she
has made what was once onsidered a forbidding and difficult to manage
lifestyle seem as effortless to get into as a lumberjack shirt.  this funny
and long-needed book leaves me with just one nagging question:  can i
watch?"  typical, wouldn't you say, ladies?  (but funny nonetheless...hehe  ;o)

on another note:  sundara - can we who are poor in padded envelopes just
send you postage, and maybe you can stuff some envelopes into one and mail
'em off?  i think i did have a trade with you, so i bet you do have my
envelopes.  but right now, i can't think of anything i want in trade so
maybe just the envelopes.  just wonderin...

well, gotta go...

my temporary signature:  the sbmobile babysitter
joni :o)

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 17:21:23 -0500
reply-to:     "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
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from:         "joan m. cyr" <jcyr@mit.edu>
subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?
x-to:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>

at 04:40 pm 12/28/96 est, kirsten chevalier wrote:
>i agree, and i think the same is actually true about copying commercial cds.
>granted, it's wrong to, say, tape a friend's copy of a cd simply to avoid
>buying it yourself. but if there's no way in hell you would ever buy the cd,
>whether used or new, i really don't see where copying hurts anyone. what do
>y'all think?
>kirsten, donning her asbestos underwear

you'll probably hear from amy putnam on this one,  kirsten....she's got the
biggest flame-thrower when it comes to copying cd's....

personally, i agree with you...to some degree.  i must admit i have copied
some cd's for friends, but never because they were too cheap to buy them.
those people can take a flying leap.  i have copied cd's for starving
students who thirst for musical nourishment, or for people to whom i am
introducing artists...i just give them a taste and then they go out and buy
other cd's of the same artist.  i also have made tape copies of a cd for
myself using this logic:  when you buy software, you are allowed to copy it
as a back up.  some software companies even let you copy software onto more
than one hard drive provided the two copies will never be used
simultaneously: for example, a copy for your desktop pc and a copy for your
laptop pc.  it's like lending a book to yourself.  one copy for the car, one
copy for the house.  you're never listening to it in more than one place at
a time.  technically, you could carry your copy around with you, but this
makes more sense and is more convenient for the user.  i know that this is
probably rationalizing, but as long as i can sleep at night, that's all that
matters.

ok, give me a minute to douse myself with fire proof gel....ok, ready......
joni :o)

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 17:24:42 -0500
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subject:      ig in rolling stone, how about the magaine version?

hey all in ig land,

well, i am one of the few people i know who is technologically impaired
and can't veiw things from websites, so i was wondering, is this article
and pictures of ig at the rs site available in magazine version too?  i
hope so, because i would hate not being able to see the photos that were
described.  if anyone can help out, please let me know.  thanks a lot.

take care and peace!

-deb

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subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?

in a message dated 96-12-28 11:48:30 est, sam22479@aol.com (samantha a.
weisman) writes:

>ronald boliday writes:
>> does buying their cds used "hurt" them?  i would seem to think so because
>>  you're piggy-backing on somebody else's purchase.
>etc.
>
>     maybe, if your assuming that every person who would buy the cd used
>would also buy it at full price if they had to.

or if they could afford to.  when i finally bought a cd player (after
promising all my beloved cassettes that i would never buy one and replace
them) i started relying on used cd stores to begin my collection.  the first
cd i bought was sf, used.  now my collection has about 400 cds, those that i
never owned before and those that replaced my poor, neglected cassettes (but
who now live in my car).   starting a collection can be a very expensive
project and i see nothing wrong with purchasing 'previously owned' cds.

the way i look at it is, these cds were born to be enjoyed by music lovers.
if they were bought but are never listened to, they're not fulfilling their
destiny.  so they should be recycled and bought again by someone who can
appreciate them.  do you think a&e would want someone to buy their music but
never listen to it (loser)?  i would think that the girls would be supportive
of recycling cds.  jmho

have a happy happy new year, everyone!

-sheri :)

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subject:      new year's eve...

hey, i am kind of interested in going down to atlanta for the rainy day
records part in atlanta for new year's.  but...i would need someone to
ride with me to cut the costs...i'm guessing we'd have to leave on the
30th, in order to see all the performer's on the 31st...i could leave
from wisconsin..i'll be there until the 30th (i live an hour north of
milwaukee) or else i'd leave from south bend, in the same day which is
where my apartment is.  if there are any takers, i need to know asap...
deb, dwayne, or greg...i know you three live around me, are any of you
interested?  or else i could pick somebody up if it's on my way to atlanta...
whatever...just get back to me quickly so i can make a decision.  also,
if i end up going to this thing, are there any listees who would have a
place for me to crash?  again, let me know.  i'm flying back to milwaukee
from arizona this afternoon, so i'll try and check my mail later tonight.

carol jones
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

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subject:      rolling stone article the easy way

here ya go.. no fuss no pain, no bother, no trillion pages to get there:


http://www.rollingstone.com/randomnotesnewsitem.phtml?id=103

tracy <tryin' to make it easier>

"it's as if there were little gremlins
running around rewiring the circuits all the time."

        - steven hyman, director of the national institute
                        of mental health, describing the
                        changes in the brain as it responds
                        to the environment and experience.

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subject:      my lame ig story

o.k., so this may sound very lame but i was way excited and had to share
with you all because i knew you'd understand. last week i went
to this little shee-shee foo-foo x-mas dinner party type thing and my
friend's boyfriend from atlanta was there.  well, of course i'm asking him
all about atlanta and the ig comes up.  then, this other guy at the party
is listening to us talk about the ig and mentions that he met them a few
years ago.  so i'm all "cool, how did you meet them?" and he's all "well,
my mom is in this band 'motherlode(?)' that toured with them for a while
and the stayed at my mom's house when they were in salem." so as if that
wasn't cool enough, he then goes on to say "yeah, actually one of them
slept in my bed."  o.k., at this point i'm not going crazy of course.  i
said "which one?" and he said "um, the one with the dark hair" (o.k., he
clearly is not much of a fan...). at this point i scream out "amy! amy ray
slept in your bed!!!" which naturally elicited many stares from my fellow
party guests.   so then he says, "yeah, my mom stays
in touch with them still...are they touring soon?"  and i say yes they are
next year and he tells me that he may be able to get back stage passes or
something for me.  i told him "you are my new best friend!!!!".  no
actually i was very cool and composed.  so anyway, that's it.  pretty
neat, huh?

gregg

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subject:      more computer problems  (nigc)

alright, more wasted bandwidth from me.  heehoo.  sorry to y'all who
don't care.

my mom and i and the guy at the computer store (who we spent about an
hour on the phone with today)  tried to fix all my computer problems, but
they just got worse and worse, and basically,  we came to the conclusion
that i can't really use my computer until i get a vga monitor.  i have an
ega, and most of the stuff i want to run will not work on an ega.  so, if
anyone knows where i can get a vga for cheap,  please oh please let me
know.  but until then,  and since i have no money, this may take a while,
i will be without email.  i don't know how much longer i will be at my
parents with access from their computer, cause of all this snow i may be
here for awhile.  but probably the 30th or the 31st will be my last day.
sad sad me.  anyway,  enjoy me while you can  :)

a depressed,
      sundara <-- who is also coming down from a five day sugar-caffeine
high, which
                is only making things worse.

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from:         dave jackson <jacksond@uoguelph.ca>
subject:      micki's friend

hi everyone!  :)

i'm always eager to join in some off-topicness now and then!  the
padded envelope thread has had me rolling!  lol!!  :)

usually when someone makes me a mixed tape (or buys me a cd), i take
their choices to heart and view the songs as personal messages to me.
[granted, this may not directly be the case.]  depending on how you
want your "friend" to interpret your gift, it is important to choose
appropriate messages that you want to share.  i have an overactive
imagination sometimes, so often i can read into things that aren't
there.  it makes for a creative personality, but also a vulnerable
one.  you may want to avoid such difficulties but choosing a
"neutral" cd.  "nomads, indians, saints" contain a variety of songs
dealing with world issues and personal grapples.  likewise, "swamp
ophelia" deals with emotions.

if you are hoping for him to like you, my choice is "swamp ophelia".
language or the kiss...hee hee.  ;)

feeling silly,
lisa j. :)
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date:          fri, 27 dec 1996 18:51:16 -0500
reply-to:      micfiles@aol.com
from:          "micki l. files" <micfiles@aol.com>
okay for all those that are interested, pull out your so and ins cd's (yes,
even you, abigail-- or at least the lyrics!!!)  i am trying to decide between
the two of these to give a "friend" for christmas. (no, micki isn't totally
dense, she just didn't get the priveledge of seeing him on christmas but will
be seeing him next week!!)  since none of you know him, i know you can't tell
me which he'd like better, but i thought if you guys could give me your ideas
and feelings on the songs from these two albums it might make my decision
easier.
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"and i'm not going to do what you all think i'm
going to do, which is just freak out!!!!!!!"
                                -tom cruise
                                 "jerry maguire"
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subject:      rolling stone

hi folks,

i was just wondering, if there is an article and photo about ig in aol's
rolling stone forum, does that mean the same is in the current issue of
rolling stone?  no one has said anything about it, but i just wondered.
hmmmm...must go to the book store to investigate...

peace and high calorie holiday baked goodies, <g>

joan :-d

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subject:      ...cut it out...

okay, so i'm driving to go get coffee with my girlfriend the other day and we're listening to the hampton beach version of cut it out.  it comes to the ending...crescendo, if you will, where amy is saying something like "why did you make it so hard?", and emily echoes the same line.  my gf is kind of staring out the window, and all of a sudden she says  "it sounds like the two of them are arguing.  that's the first time i've heard a song where they're not complimenting each other."
of course a rapid debate ensued, because cut it out is one of my favorite new songs and i love the anger that that particular verse conveys.  i did have to agree though,  that they captured the animosity of the lyrics very accurately in their kind of back and forth style of singing.
then i started to think about what other songs of theirs emote that feeling, and the two that i came up with were blood quantum:

amy: genocide
emily: there you are a man without a face, you're just a number on a page
amy: genocide
emily: there you are a woman without a face, we'll just erase you

and the 1200 curfews version of this train (revised):

amy: these are the questions
emily: these are the answers

i don't get that feeling from the studio version, but somehow it differs when its done live.

okay, so here we go.            ...threads...

first of all, settle a debate between sundara and i, and tell whether or not you like cut it out as a song...many differing opinions so far...
secondly,  do you agree with the argument-sounding idea, and do you enjoy it or think it puts a strain on their regular harmonies?
and lastly, can you add on to my somewhat diminutive list of other ig back-and-forth (for lack of a better phrase) lyrics?

whew.  have fun with this one y'all.

...wheels in motion...
greta

"and what i wanna do is go faster!  i wanna go faster! in wanna have sex in the middle of nowhere!!! i want to be the worst possible person i could ever be in my whole life. and i want to be black. i want to be red, i want to be yellow!!!"  -a. ray

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from:         benjamin slavin <sajarez@aol.com>
subject:      random screen name change

hey all,
it's ben. i got bored with my screen name so i changed it. it's amazing what
you'll do when you're bored on farm.
anyway, i still need addresses of people i owe boots too. oh, and the video
deal too.
sorry to waste this post on you guys:(
ben
*jan,write back soon:)*

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date:         sat, 28 dec 1996 20:14:23 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?
x-to:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
in-reply-to:  <9612282140.aa18125@spike.wellesley.edu>

> buying it yourself. but if there's no way in hell you would ever buy the cd,
> whether used or new, i really don't see where copying hurts anyone. what do
> y'all think?

i'm curious...if there is no way in hell you would buy it, why would
you want to copy it?  seems to me that if you have no intrest in buying
it, must not be something you like too much.  can you give me a reason
why you would copy something you wouldnt buy?

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin

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subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?
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              "amy j. putnam" at dec 28, 96 8:14 pm

>
> i'm curious...if there is no way in hell you would buy it, why would
> you want to copy it?  seems to me that if you have no intrest in buying
> it, must not be something you like too much.  can you give me a reason
> why you would copy something you wouldnt buy?
>
there are many reasons, the principle one being that most people have limited
amounts of spare cash and can't afford to buy every cd that they might like.
kirsten


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subject:      sp...

oh yeah, and i know i spelled sejarez wrong. sorry:( i'm such a loser.
ben

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subject:      sharing music

i shoulda added this to my previous posts.  like joni, i like to intro-
duce people to new music, and share with those who cant afford the
size of a cd collection like mine.  so, i make a lot of mixes.  partly
for myself and partyl to share with others.  i have found that poeple
genreally will buy the cd's or tapes of those they like, and that's
all i ask.

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
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subject:      re: buying used ig cds= a bad thing?
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> there are many reasons, the principle one being that most people have limited
> amounts of spare cash and can't afford to buy every cd that they might like.
> kirsten

i can certinaly understand financial constraints.  all i would say to
that is if you have made a tape of an artist, especially an indie artist,
it might be good to keep the possibility of a cd purchase in the back of
one's mind when those constraints dont limit purchasing power
as much.  it all comes down to personal approaches/needs/wants.  artists
and students do have one thing in common:  niether likes to be "starving".

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
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from:         sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
subject:      re: ...cut it out...

greta (aka candice, not just her mom, her alter ego, tee hee)

>first of all, settle a debate between sundara and i, and tell whether
>or not you like cut it out as a song...many differing opinions so
>far...

jeesz, dontcha ya know that if you put my name in a post,  i have to
immediately reply???  espcially when i'm snowed in.

nooooo!!!  don't like cut it out!!!  i don't like how amy's voice gets
all high.  hurts my ears, it's grating.  buuuut,  i also think this song
may grow on me, espc.  if it's on map.  or this may be like a skipper,
like southland (don't like, nope, not at all, which on an tangent,  i
know all the words too, even though i extremely dislike this song, do the
rest of you know the words to the songs you don't like?)

>secondly,  do you agree with the argument-sounding idea, and do you
>enjoy it or think it puts a strain on their regular harmonies?

hmmm.  i think it adds to the intensity and meaning of the song, cause i
feel like it's not them arguing with each other,  but since  the song,
esp, cut it out, is about anger and wanting someone to stop whatever they
are doing  (i don't have the lyrics with me, so i can't quite remember
what the song is all about)  the argumentative feeling of the lyrics
would add to the song. kinda like how in airplane,  it goes up up up,
like an airplane :)  hey, was that autmatopoeia? (which i can't spell)
or something like that?  since i can't remember what that was, but would
this be an example of that?  i know, i should pay better attention and
try to use my long-term memory once in a while.  oh well,  that's my
opinion.

love ya, sundara,  who is feeling much better cause she went out and
played soccer in the snow with the families new puppy :)

"howdiddlydoodlydo  neighbor!"
          -ned flanders

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from:         camille kearl <sasscambo@msn.com>
subject:      scratched discs/guitar gurus

okay, i will jump on this thread--not sure i can explain my idea in words (a
picture is better) but i will give it a try.  the first idea would be to make
a cool cd stand/holder.  take a piece of wood and make little grooves in it
and stick the cd's in horizontally three or four inches apart--not sure how
much wieght they could hold--maybe cut them in half and use half a cd per
slot.  in any case it could be kind of cool.  is anyone seeing this?  the
second idea would be to take the piece of wood and do the same thing except
now place the much shorter board horizontally on a desk and stick cd's very
close together--it is now a letter holder/mail divider or a divider for
sundara's padded envelopes :-)  i sure hope that someone is on the wave and
seeing this great creation.
alright, for all those of you who provided this guitar playing wanna be with
great guitar info. a couple of weeks ago i thank you much and have one more
question--have any of you heard anything about cort guitars?  i have been
playing several different guitars including, yamahas, ovations, sigma martins,
and washburns in my quest for a decent guitar in the 350-400 dollar price
range and stumbled across a cort guitar that i really like--i am close to
making a purchase decision in fact :-)  it has a cedar top, feels good--i like
the action, sounds great and to top it off is beautiful.  i was just curious
if anyone has played them or knows anything about them.
anyway, i wish everyone a very happy new year!
take it easy--cami

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from:         suzi steffen <connorgal@aol.com>
subject:      this used cd thread

dear iglist,

okay guys, on vacation from the university of iowa, where i as a poor
graduate student can't even afford a cd player, much less cds to replace the
mongo tape collection...a few things.

am i imagining things, or are amy and emily probably not hurting for cash at
the moment?  hello!  we (and i do mean we, as in we on this list, buddies)
buy cds/tapes/records/8tracks/whatever, go to concerts, buy special things
that come from ig catalogs because, let's face it, we are obsessed.  when rem
puts out a cd, or bush, or...i don't know, shawn colvin, these people are not
hurting for cash either.  on the other hand!  i, and many people like me, are
hurting in a big way.  so if i buy a used cd of the ig, i don't think i'm
doing them terribly wrong.  or their corporate backers either.  of course i
won't buy a cd because of aforementioned cd player lack, so this is not a
dilemma for me usually.

now.  i like to buy things like honor1 for the cause and the label.  i like
to buy dar williams for people because my friend jenny let me tape her and i
still feel guilty.  also i want everyone to listen to dar williams!  (so if
you're not doing it, get out there and buy the honesty room and mortal city,
or at least borrow from a friend.)  but, i have more than funded the ig for
my share. and heck, the record company doesn't need the $, nor do they need
all of the profit they make off of cds.  i hear cds cost 6 cents (yes, $0.06)
to make apiece.  um....let's see.  it costs sony or someone $0.06 to make
michael jackson's cd, and i buy it for, say, $13.  on sale.  thumbs down to
capitalist pigs!

know what?  i also like to buy used clothes, reused anything that's
functional, etc.  why?  because we do not need more things on this planet.
nope, nope, nope.  don't need more people in factories getting paid 40 cents
an hour to kill themselves.  don't need pollution in water and land.  don't
need more goddamn stuff! (at least in this country and the rest of the
"developed" nations)  and that includes cds.  why not share?  why not reuse?
especially if it's made of plastic or metal?!

that's suzi's little rant for the night.  for those of you thinking, "why,
this rant sounds an awful lot like those rants from
ssteffen@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu"--hey!  you win a prize.  same person, only on
holiday.

sundara, good luck with your computer and welcome to the catie list!

love to all iglisters including my sister and brother, who are both signed
up, hurray,

suzi

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date:         sun, 29 dec 1996 02:38:24 -0500
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from:         jeremy ames <gaiachild2@aol.com>
subject:      ig discovery

  i recently joined this list and reading your messages makes me think about
how i became and ig fan.  i had inherited my sister's old car, and found a
tape in the glove box labeled "indigo girls".  i played it, it was really bad
sound quality as it was a copy of a copy, but the sngs stucj with me.  i
brought it in, and listened to it over and over.  later i found out it was
rites of passage.
  anyway, i live in la crosse wisonsin, there are few folk fans here.  i
could only find swamp ophelia in the stores, so i bought it and was blown
away.  this year i bough all the rest of their stuff and i am hooked.  my
favorite x-mas gift was 1200 curfews, from who else but my sister?  anyway i
want to here your interesting "first time" stories.
  since it is unlikely the ig will be touring in wisconsin anytime soon, can
anyone tell me where i can find blue food, color me gray, and bootlegs?
thanks.

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subject:      re: ...cut it out...
in-reply-to:  <01bbf4f7.b8707da0@ptpm056.olympus.net>

hey y'all, ok, i'm with the purple president of the pnw, and i have to
say, cut it out isn't one of my favorite new songs, it's way on the
bottom of my list, although i have to admit, it is starting to grow on me,
just like 1-2-3.  i don't know why i don't like amy's rocking songs, i
have nothing against harder stuff, hell, i love radiohead and pavement,
it's just, well, i don't know, it just doesn't do it for me.  anyway,
tangent, and a revival of an old thread.  but, i agree with g, the back
and forth singing does give the song a sense of tension, but the whole
song does that for me anyway.  the guitars, amy's hitting the the high
notes, nothing in the song really seems to complement anything else.
but, i do like the spiraling guitar at the end, is that another musical
metaphor, speaking of old threads?

v

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        and i ask you for some relief
        and it's one true route that you bring to me
        i said it's 3 am, and it's good company
        hey kind friend, help me forget where i've been
        hey kind friend, help me remember who i am

                                        -- amy ray
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reply-to:     sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
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from:         sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
subject:      michelle malone

hey everyone!

well,   i got michelle malone's cd, new experience, for christmas, and i
just had to rant about how smabulous it is.  she's  fab-o-rama.  her
voice is like buttah, i could listen to her all day long  (except the fam
won't let me, and i have to have my daily ig too)  anyway,  i just
thought i should tell everyone how great it is, and urge everyone to go
out and get this cd, now!!  do not pass go, go directly to the daemon web
page and get this.  unless you are webless like me, then you'll have to
figure something else out.

i esp. love all i can give you is me. (track 3) it kinda has a twin
peak-esque sound.  which i love (big twin peaks fan, watched the entire
series, love it)  and before the music starts, there is some background
noise,  basically just a bunch of people talking, but you can't really
understand what they are saying, except, right before the noise stops,  i
think i hear someone say indigo girls, and it sounds a lot like amy.  i
don't know if i just listen too much for ig in everything, but i was
wondering if anyone else has noticed this, or actually knows???


also, if any pnw-ers would like to give me a weather report of the
seattle-tacoma area, i'd love it.  we have two feet of snow, yes two feet
here in sequim, and it doesn't look like it's gonna stop.  i have never
even seen this much snow before.  this is so un-wa-like.  i'm quite
beside myself. this is wa, it doesn't snow here, what's going on????

love ya, sundara,<-- whose b-day is tomorrow!!!  she'll be 23.  woo-hoo!!
and is gonna have a big icicle cake frosted with snow for her party.
ugh.

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subject:      ig on the radio

okay, be prepared for lots of un-interesting posts from greta today because she's stuck in the middle of the woods under two feet of snow.
first off, i was posting a note about hte & honor1 on the mountain webpage the other day (that's a pnw radio station y'all), and i saw that their "perfect album" on january 9th is gonna be rites of passage.  they're going to play it all the way through starting at 9pm. of course, most everyone on this list already has that album, as do i, but i felt like i should mention it in any case...
soooo...i'm thinking that now is a really good time to start some major trading, because i have much spare time and nothing to do.  e-mail me if you're interested.  i have a good selection of audio & video tapes.
btw, speaking of video, i finally got a new chord for my two vcrs, so everyone that i owe tapes to should be getting them soon (assuming that i'll be able to get out of my driveway sometime within the next week).
hmmmm...nothing else to say, except that i'm extremely bored, and have absolutely nothing to do except sit at this computer, so if anyone has any pickle recipes, batmitzva songs, subversive political statements, or hey, ig related stuff they wish to share with me, i'd be extremely receptive.

...blinding white...
greta

"oh god.  serious karma trouble."  -a. ray

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from:         rose west <nitelite6@aol.com>
subject:      map references

all these map song references are driving me crazy.  i can't wait until april
until it is released.  would some kind person possibly find it in their heart
to make a dub of it for me?  i would of course pay for the tape and postage.
and then i can forward my used padded envelope to sundara to add to her
collection......heeheehee.

rose<-------still turning blue but now cuz i want a map dub

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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      re: a+e=ig quilt
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pj wrote:

> wouldnt it be cool for all of the fans (not only list fans, but, any other
> fans we know) to make a quilt for them.  we could have two patch sizes:
>
> large for groups - like if an area (example-pnw) wants to have a party and
> make a large quilt patch.> small - for individuals.
>
> on the back it could say something like "thanks y'all, we love you."

it's a great idea, i know i am constantly trying to find ways to give back
to those who touch me, from near or far. but what if we took that energy
and did something collectively like start a foundation for the homeless,
this way we are giving back to the girls and honoring them with our
actions but at the end of it people are off the streets. just a thought.
ig are an incredible influence, they are always doing background things
no one hears about, the example they set makes me want to take action as
they do and when i do, the reward is the effort i have put forth, as i am
sure is their reward also. in their songs they are asking us to care,
take action, do something. but something tells me making a quilt for them
isn't the response they are after. perhaps making quilts for street people
is more appropriate. just my .02 cents and the after glimmerings of the
christmas season.

kim (north vancouver)

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subject:      rusted root, tiny igc

hey y'all..
well last night i went to see rusted root and they put on a great show,
especially if ya like to dance.. : )  anyways.. here's my little itty bitty
piece of igc.  well, they are on honor1 with a live version of this cool song
called scattered and right before they played it, the girl, liz, said a
little bit about honor1 and indigo girls, so of course i start going nuts and
screaming, along with one other girl in the building who must be just as
obsessed . anyways... she basically said how cool they thought ig were and
about hte.  i just thought it was neat...

peace
sasha

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from:         lyve bitting <rayler@sprynet.com>
subject:      used

thank god for the salvation army!!!  used clothes are the best.  sharing is
nice, my kindergarten teacher told me so.  and as for cd's, i think suzi was
right, it'd be tough to hurt a lot of bands.  i hear rumor that cd cost, to
package it in jewel box and wrap it in plastic, grand total, is $.93.  yah, 93
cents.  even records cost more to make!  now maybe if we organized some really
big world wide boycott of someone, and have one person buy their album and tape
it a million times and give it to everyone else, maybe then we could do some
damage.  but please, i am begging you, please stop making me feel guilty that i
make copies for people on occaision.  and if you must condemn me, please
remember that i only steal from major labels.  i buy them if they are small.

:■
lyve, who is magic▓ and fire retardent (or maybe just too retarded to realize it
if she were flamed)

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from:         trish weisman <tweisman@worldnet.att.net>
subject:      nigc bdays

december 29
larissab@earthlink.net (larissa brown)
happy 24th, larissa!!
some will strut and some will fret,
and see this an hour on the stage.
others will not, but they'll sweat
in their hopelessness, in their rage
we're all the same,
the men of anger and the women of the page...

neil.phillips@bandw.co.uk
happy 29th, neil!!
and i say love will come to you
hoping just because i spoke the words that they're true
as if i offered up a crystal ball to look through
and where there's now one, there will be two...

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from:         shanna freeman <sfreeman@coe.uga.edu>
subject:      "scooter boys" in rolling stone article (igc)

hey y'all--

being curious about the rolling stone article myself and what on earth
"scooter boys" could be, i went to the web page. in the title "scooter
boys", the word scooter is a link...to a picture at:

http://www.yankees.com/archives/image.archive/95.div.series/95.div.03.jpeg

this is a picture of phil rizzuto throwing out the ceremonial first pitch
at a yankees division game. you can see on a billboard in the background
that "the scooter" is phil rizzuto's nick name (i didn't know this
previously).

so, what i want to know...is doing this just the rolling stone's idea of
being cute or a joke...or does phil rizzuto and/or the meaning of the
nickname scooter have to do with the song? i mean, the word indigo is a
link to the sony page, and the word map is a link to a map of atlanta...so
wouldn't the link to phil rizzuto be relevant? i'm confused, to put it
plain. :)

if anyone can clear this up, please let me know!

thanks,

shanna :)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
   _               |sfreeman@coe.uga.edu
_<_\_       "     |http://members.tripod.com/~shannaf/index.html
<_    \__          |
  |   ' /'   """.  | we owe nothing, nothing is ours
   \___/     *  "  | not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars

   /===\   /  ""   | but this poverty is our greatest gift
  |=||==|==d       | the weightlessness of us
  |= \d=|  |       | as things around begin to shift
   \===/   |    "  |
"   \\o\\o  "  "   |                                             e.saliers

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from:         melinda carneiro <mellie2@aol.com>
subject:      re: cut it out

i usually just lurk around but i can't help agreeing with others who don't
really like
"cut it out".  i keep listening to it over and over but i just can't seem to
find whatever it is that i find in other ig material. you can't like
everything i guess ...... amy just sounds too screechy and the whole song
just bothers me. i love the rest of their new material and actually i can't
think of any other ig song that i eventually didn't wind up liking so maybe
i'll come around on this one too ..... just my thoughts on the subject.

mellie

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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      ig quilt (part 2)

hello,

i have been receiving feedback from people about not knowing how to sew.
when we figure out the best measurement for each size then all you have to
do is:

buy fabric that size and use fabric paints or maybe acrylic paints and paint
whatever you want.  i think that would be great.  that is probably what i
want to do 'cause i have more painting experience than sewing.  i think the
size of the patches are going to depend on the amount of response.  if you
are interested in this quilt please e-mail me personally.

thanks alot
pj

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subject:      ig quilt (part 3)

hello,

more quilt stuff.  everyone is wanting to do something positive for the
community with this quilt project.  so i am wondering if we could possibly
have everyone who makes a quilt patch (if they want to) donate a blanket or
some blankets (or even$) to their nearest shelter on a&e's behalf.  the quilt
itself will be more of an art piece instead of a functional blanket.  how
does that sound???  thanks for the ideas.

peace
pj

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 03:41:42 gmt
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subject:      ig trivia (again!)

hi everyone!

this is for all the bored, snowed-in folks out there ...

which song of amy's did emily *not* want to be on their self-titled album,
but which would later make it to one of their later records?

oh, and another one ...

which ig family member was supposed to appear in the _closer to fine_ video,
but all shots featuring this person unfortunately ended up on the cutting
room floor?

anyone who knows the answers can e-mail me privately, and i'll post the
results to the list. a safe and happy new year to everyone!

anna

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subject:      nigc:cancer branch. kristen hall boot offer

my hard drive crashed and i lost all mail..can you e-mail me..

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from:         patrick mckeough <investor@istar.ca>
organization: successful investor inc
subject:      that 1st time

hi,
this is my first post,  i hope it works. well here goes.  i thought i'd
tell you guys about my first ig experience.  it was at summer camp when
i was twelve.  so my counsellor was really into them and she would play
their music for us all the time.  so when i got home and was nostalgic
for camp i went out and bought rights of passage and the rest, as they
say, is herstory.  now that i'm a counsellor myself i'm trying to pass
on the teachings of the ig to my campers so that the cycle may continue.
in ontario a&e have a huge summer camp following.  are there any other
camping freaks out there who have noticed this?  just curious.   anywho
that's all for now.

patricia

btw - i'm not patrick, even though that's what my email says.  my dad
uses it for work . hence the investor. i'm not selling anything, honest

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subject:      cut it out

hey all--
had to de-lurk to say a word about cut it out. i too have had a hard time
with this song-- but i have finally decided that i have to love it because it
is such an extreme amy song-- a new blood & fire if you will. i bet in a few
years she won't be singing it anymore (like blood & fire) because the
catharsis will be through. she is so bewildered & hurt in this song & she
sings her guts out & exposes herself down to the bone & sinew & this is the
very thing that drew me to the indigo girls in the first place. there was
some talk earlier about "amy mellowing" & i think this song is an example
that she hasn't. she is still writing from the gut-- about things that matter
to her. she can't make her broken heart into a pretty tune. got to admire
that in her.
i think anyway...
constructive new year wishes to you all!
alexandra

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subject:      all my problems...solved  (well not all,
              but the big pressing one)(nigc, but a little sbmfc)
x-cc:         susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu

hey y'all  (still practicing for my inevitable trip south)

i just wanted to update everyone on my continuing saga.  hee :)

today i have been absolutely blown away by the kindness of people who are
virtually strangers.  you are all amazing.  thank you.  a fellow listee,
ralph,  who is probably one of the funniest people ever,  told me he has
an extra vga monitor that i can have.  so he's gonna send it to me, and
then i'll be back, hopefully for good.  then all of you who think i'm
wonderful and funny can continue to enjoy me, and the rest of you can
just hit the delete button.  heh heh heh.

anyway.  if you would like to thank ralph for saving me,  i'd appreciate
it, so email me and i'll tell you how you can reach him.

also, i'd like to inform all the members of the sbmfc  that susan is
having a b-day, dec 31st, and we should make sure we mark our calendars
and celebrate susan-day, unfortunately, she won't be on-line to celebrate
with us,  but you can still email her at
susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu
and she will get all our lovely messages when she returns, jan 2nd.

love, sundara <-- who is so thrilled that her b-day is just one day
before susan's, and secretly thinks they were separated at birth, chuckle
chuckle. :)

"howdiddlydoodlydo  neighbor!"
        -ned flanders

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subject:      a new fan

hi all!  i'm not only a new member to this page..but i'm also a new fan of
ig!!!!  so i guess i should share my ig discovery....  i was on tour over the
summer, and tired of listening to all the chaos on the bus so i borrowed my
friends cd player and pushed play not caring what was in there....i totally
fell in love with ig!!!!  it turned out to be disc 1 of 1200 curfews.  after
tour i came back home to my town of montgomery, alabama (where we've never
had snow) and proceeded to ask around about ig....unfortunately,i can find no
one here who has heard of them....much less shares my passion for them.  so
until recently when i got hooked up to the net, i had to pursue my interest
by myself :(    can you imagine how sstoked i was when i found this page!!!
anyway, thanks for letting me waste space

beth
ps..everyone keps talking about ig merchandise and catalogs......hook me up
will ya???

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 00:49:10 -0600
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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from:         abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
subject:      nigc: just my b-day ramblings

ok, so i do this almost every birthday--reflect on myself, and there
probably will be some igc cuz my whole life feels like indigo most of the
time, but i'm sure this post isn't even close to worthy of being advirtised
as igc, so go figure.

oh hey! before i forget, everybody wish sundara a happiest of happies
because it's her b-day too today, and she's so cool, yeah, yeah!

alright, so i always get all reflective, and usually i bore my friends with
it, but it's a little late to call anybody. i also thought that at least one
person out there might be interested, but there are probably tons more who
wish i'd quit wasting bandwidth already.

i'm 15 today, and my song of the year is changing to the beautiful "you're
aging well" by dar williams, mainly because of the line "when i was 15 oh i
knew it was over, the road to enchantment was not mine to take." and that
pretty much sums me up i think. it's not as depressing as it sounds, it's
just that i feel i've grown a lot and my eyes have been opened to the fact
that life is not the plans you make, but what happens to you instead. i
think emily puts it beautifully in the lyrics of "love's recovery."

i'll get off it already, but not without saying thank you to everyone on the
list for brightening my day each time i check my mail. you are all
incredibly special people, and amy and emily should be proud to have such
wonderful fans.

:) abigail

"when i was 15, oh i knew it was over, the road to enchantment was not mine
to take..."

                    ~dar williams

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 03:13:35 -0500
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subject:      ig at rdr new year's eve?

does anybody know the inside scoop about who the tba performer is at rainy
day records at 11pm? i wouldn't mind ringing in the new year with someone i
really liked. i plan on going in & out all day to see performers i enjoy but
i don't know if it's worth going back at 11pm? can anyone help?

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from:         ubiquitous girl <ubigirl@erie.net>
subject:      bye and thanks...minimal igc

hey everyone
        just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded to my trade pleas.
i've been busy and am leaving the list for about a week to go visit my gf
across the state (of pa)  i'll get back in touch with everyone again as
soon as i get back (since i *finally* typed in my boot list to send to
y'all)  thanks again and sorry for wasting bandwidth.  see you soon

have a wonderful new year,
jennifer
the ubiquitous one

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 16:52:42 +0800
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subject:      re: cut it out

hi folks ...

i have a hard time listening to cut it out too, though i actually like it a
lot. it's just so painful to hear amy sing it, i feel like my guts are being
torn out. i like the argumentative edge of their harmonies in this song, as
well as the the twisting, angry electric guitar stuff emily does -- i think
they are perfect "musical metaphors" for the song.

on a related tangent, i see cut it out as the emotional apex of what i've
come to think of as amy's "trilogy" in this new group of songs, with don't
give that girl a gun and chiapas bound being the other two -- and hey kind
friend as a kind of postscript or epilogue. dgtag expresses pain and anguish
(i did wrong), cut it out expresses pain, anguish, and *anger* (i did wrong,
but so did you ...), and chiapas bound expresses pain, sadness, and a kind
of resignation (i heard you were free, or someone thinks you should be, and
i know just how that feels ...). and hey kind friend is like light after a
long period of darkness, with a little time and space that helped heal
things a little.

i hope i am not crossing the line into the personal here ... i am interested
to hear what other people think, or if some people saw it this way too.
regarding amy mellowing, i do think that although she still has that
"screaming passion" side of her, in her art she has found some parts of
herself that are more subtle and nuanced, but no less powerful than her rage
... and i think it's wonderful. in the same way, emily seems to have gotten
much more direct about (among other things) her anger, like in leeds and
it's alright -- which i think is great too.

okay, enough rambling ... :). what do others think?

anna

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 13:17:01 +0000
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subject:      nigc bdays

i'm doing these together b/c i know her royal purpleness would love to have
her and sbm's bday together.

december 30
sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com
happy 2rd, sundarling!!
every 5 days or so i look back on my life
and i have a good laugh...
(the bootleg versions)

december 31
oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu (susan b. marine)
happy birthday, susan!!
everybody loves you and they want to know your story...
(don't remember the next line, but the above seems fitting-teehee!)

rcxsj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ad.uk (sharon jennings)
happy 26th, sharon!!
all with hope, all with hope
that emptiness brings fullness,
that loss of love brings wholeness to us all...

have an indigo year, you tax-return babies!

side notes: sorry i forgot to tell y'all yesterday to have an indigo year.
you have my full permission to do so wholeheartedly.
also, the bg feels dumb and yet more dumb because i left the january list of
bdays at home.  i'll be home next sunday, so monday or tuesday i'll get
caught up.  sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorry!
love,
the bg, who is hiding under a rock

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subject:      nigc more bdays

a couple of bdays the bg was unclear upon:

december 27
verdi@imap2.asu.edu/sajarez@aol.com (ben)
happy 20th, ben!!
with every lesson learned a line upon your beautiful face...
ben wins the prize for most appropriate bday quote!

also my brother turned 15 on friday.  he doesn't have email, but prolly has
snow, being at boarding school up in rochester, ny.  but haha, he doesn't
get any snow days, cos the dorms are in the same building as the classrooms!
neener, neener, neener!  (karey shows her maturity)

december 30
abaroo@execpc.com (abigail)
happy 15th, abigail!!
abigail is infinitely more mature and nice than my brother.
try to hold it like rain in a river
everything is getting bigger
better, this won't last forever
touch  me  fall...

have an indigo year!

side note:  has anyone else seen this ad in magazines for dove soap where a
little white girl (about 5, 6)is looking in a hand mirror on the first page,
and the caption says "stop! take that mirror away!" and then on the next
page it has a woman of maybe 17 or 20 facing the camera, and the caption is
like, "somebody show her the real beauty she already has inside" and then
goes on to say something like "you don't need makeup to be beautiful, dove
lets your natural beauty shine through, blah blah blah..."  well, it seems
to me that this young girl and the older one, who's supposed to be the first
one grown up, are white, blond, skinny... can anybody else catch my drift
here?  i mean, if it were done with a black girl, a latina, an asian girl,
etc then it would strike a better chord with me.  all they're doing is
reinforcing existing stereotypes and constructs.  it's not revolutionary or
comforting at all.
oh well, it's my fault for reading my mom's cosmo or good housekeeping or
whatever instead of a book.  but i'm on vacation, y'know?  i just wanted
some brain candy!  guess that's what i got.
love,
karey, the pnwesterner who's missing 'snowstorm '96!', or 'holiday
blizzard', or whatever the cheesy "news" shows are calling it by now

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subject:      nigc: it's a purple day!

hello listees!!!

i am obligated to do this, as self-appointed right hand woman to the holy
high priestess of purple, sundara, the purple princess, i beseech all purple
people among you, openly purple & not-so-openly purple, to to flood her email
(sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com) with purple birthday wishes, as it was
on this day, 23 years ago, that her purpleness came unto us, bringing with
her the violet rays of the rainbow (violet, that's right next to indigo!!!),
spreading purple all over the place (somebody needs to clean up this mess, i
keep stepping into it).

peas, carrots, and purple reign,
dee (lavender lieutenant to sundara, purple princess, hoping to someday reach
full purple potential)

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 12:21:36 -0500
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from:         "elizabeth m. bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com>
subject:      re: that 1st time

patricia, who isn't an invester said:

<< in ontario a&e have a huge summer camp following.  are there any other
camping freaks out there who have noticed this? >>

yes yes yes!  ooo!  at my camp (well, i guess it isn't really mine . . .
don't own it, or anything . . .) a+e are the un-official band of the camp.
everyday, durring cabin clean up, cabin 21 would be blasting rop, and we
(cabin 19, woo!) played self titled album a few times, but there was a
tension over that and it ended one day when majority (not including me) ruled
that every morning we would listen to some god-awful song "opp."  and it was
this summer, at my camp, that a friend of mine, who was a counselor, lent me
the self-titled album.  i fell in love, and she didn't get the tape back
until the last day of camp.  i listened to that thing every night while
falling asleep.  and, my other counselor friend, who listens to a lot of
'powerful women's music' (coughhackdykemusiccoughhack) had this obsession
with closer to fine and played it constantly.  and then, for parents night,
the glee club (yes, cheesie, i know) performed dead man's hill, with a few
lyrical changes in the 1st verse.

-elizabeth

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subject:      re: cut it out

i'm going crazy!  everyone keeps mentioning all these songs and i've only
heard some of them and then i realized that i never put in for that mapped
thing and now i just want to know if it's too late to get a copy or if
someone will take pity and get it for me?  please . . .

alright, i'm done . . .

back to my universe . . .

-elizabeth

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from:         susan tomlinson <teddie@mindspring.com>
subject:      we are back (sigc)

hey y'all,

we made it! jocie and i have the computer up and running here in warm and
foggy georgia. we are glad to be back on the list. we still have a mountain
of boxes to unpack, but we don't have to report back to work until thursday.

our cats are starting to relax and explore the new place. we have a sunroom
with a 9 foot wide window and teddie and redbud (the kitties) think it will
do just fine thank you very much! there are birds and squirrels and
chipmunks in the back and the cats are fascinated. before, they watched a
tape called video catnip to see this sort of thing. they must think we got
them a big screen home theatre system or something!;)

oh yes, the sigc. we have been to rainy day records and wuxtry records here
in decatur to pick up some new music. it is so odd to see ig stuff out in
music shops. you know, not just a bin marker with five cds in it, but actual
ig promo stuff on the walls, posters, pictures, collectibles (we saw club
r&r, shades of indigo and more). that's the way it should be. girls rule!!!

sorry for shouting, i just got a little excited. it's just that transferring
from oklahoma city to atlanta is like going from one-dimesional, gray, white
noise-filled finite box to a fully three-dimensional, multi-colored,
stereo-fnarking-phonic bottomless bowl of goodness. yes, yes, as my dear
mother has taken great pains to point out - the 3-d might make one dizzy,
the colors tend to run, and the bowl has chips and cracks in it. yes, i know
this isn't - dare i say it? - the land of canaan, but it's sure a hell of a
lot closer to it than oklahoma city (aka the buckle of the bible belt)
whew, i am done. pardon me for rambling. coffee, no sleep and all that.

peace,

susan and jocelyn

"with feelings, beings, books, events, and battles, i am omnivorous. i would
like to swallow the whole earth. i would like to drink the whole sea." -
pablo neruda

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 15:55:39 -0500
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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      re: cut it out

well, i dunno about this.  i loooove cut it out...i love it because it's a
strong song.  someone mentioned 123...that took me forever to like, and even
now it's near the bottom of my list.  and i guess cut it out reminds me of
123 a little.  but the passionateness (yes that is a word i said so!) of
amy's voice and just the whole strength of the song really gets me.  it's not
my favorite...but near the top.  i love the words...the relationship, ending,
stop messing with me!!!!  it's really powerful.  and i agree with greta about
the arguing thing, i had never noticed it and that's cool!  i think it def.
adds to the song.  like the whole musical onomonapeia (sorry pony, still
can't spell :) with joking and stuff.  can't think of others now...but...
just to leap back into posting manically.  since y'all are so bored and all.
i feel sorry for everyone stuck in snow!  here i am in virginia and it feels
like may or june!  seriously!  i was out bike riding in jeans and a t-shirt
and i was warm!  i wanted to put on shorts!  i don't know what's up, but i
like it!  :)
happy new year, almost, y'all.....
katy "not snowing here!" hedd.

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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      re: that 1st time

here i go again!  i didn't hear ig for the first time at camp (my mom gave me
swamp ophelia and now takes great glee in saying "*i* listened to ig before
you were old enough to do anything!"  but at my camp this summer we had a
poll thing going, and the favorite band came out as indigo girls!!!!  i
promise, i only voted once!  or twice, i can't remember...:)
anyway...happy indigo, and happy birthday to the purple princess and
abigail!!!!  i love both of them and it's such a nice day when it's both of
their birthdays!
katylutherhead (hee!)

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 17:50:34 -0500
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from:         suzi steffen <connorgal@aol.com>
subject:      birthday wishes to three wonderful people...and an aol buddy
              (ligc)

hi all!
i had some intelligent stuff to say, but i can't remember if i'm trying to
send it to the dar list, ig list, or (new and wonderful!) catie curtis
list...and besides i get confused when other people on all three lists double
or triple post (not to pick on jennifer sundara etc.)...oh jeez.  anyway!
******************************************************************************
*********
happy wonderful snowbound birthday oh purplest one!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
happy joyous 15th birthday abigail and keep on aging well!
###############################################################
happy happy birthday susan b. marine goddess of lists!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^
and i forgot...happy late birthday ben, whom i see on aol chat rooms late at
night and whom i keep on asking, "now are you on the indigo girls list or
what?" because of his name.  now it's settled!  ben i know who you are...and
when your birthday is...and what chat rooms you hang in!  note:i still think
madonna rocks, no matter what amy and emily say (and thank goddess i don't
follow them on everything or i'd have a horrible haircut and believe in god,
not that these two things have to go together, but hey, the evidence is right
there in front of our eyes...).

okay, that's it for this list...good afternoon/night/morning all.

love,
suzi

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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
subject:      re: that 1st time

i think indigo girls are a universal camp group. because at the camp where i
am now a counselor and former camper ig are very popular.  most people ya
know aren't obsessed like us, but have a few albums.  i was thinking about
this the other day actually, and i think it's because they are real cool to
listen to outside in the summertime ( not to mention all other times
indoors..) and dance to or just hang out.. and i think for everyone there's
an ig song where you just sit back and wonder how a or e knew what you were
thinking, i'm not sure how that relates to camp but..  they are real good
bonding music, cause sometimes they can make you cry, laugh, sing etc.  and
camp is all about bonding.  so i guess i'm done, and i'm not sure if what i
just said makes sense, but that won't be the first time... oh well..

peace, from dc where it was a beautiful 64 degrees today... no jackets!!!!!
sasha

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 11:31:58 +1000
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from:         chris richardson <chris@b130.aone.net.au>
subject:      hi

dear emily and amy! wow this is very cool. i have never done this before!
i'm one of your australian fans - you guys are my heroes! but anyway what i
really wanted to ask you is when will your new album come out in australia
and when will you be coming to oz on tour???????? soon i hope, can't wait to
see you! love kel richardson! (this is my brothers computer and since i've
come to visit him he can't get me off it!)
trying to throw my arms around the world!

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from:         corinne <corinne@utah-inter.net>
subject:      nigc: birthdays

hey igers.  i haven't been posting much lately, luckily for all of you, but
i wanted to wish a very happy birthday to two of my favorites, sundara and
susan marine!  you women are the greatest!  let's see, anything else to
say?  nope.

bye...

corinne
former zipper twin of tom

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subject:      fa la la la la....

just imagine the nice little blue ones singing through your email.....

ahhh, so i am having a posting attack. meaning, i feel like posting. you
might call this my posting period. this happens on occasion....its my
periodic posting period. and with this being sundara's birthday and all...it
is my purple periodic posting...

so anyhow, those of you who don't know me are about to get to know me....im
just dropping a happy holidays to all and a little update for some of you.
you see four score and some odd time ago i started this thing called the
world duck tour. ahh, i know some of you out there remember my two rubber
duckies, january and webster. (j, named of course after a former listee who
has been absent recently due to school work and some hacker that screwed up
her college's email system. webby was named by another listtee....ms. deb
reiser....yeah deb!!!!!! who i owe an email tooo...and much more:) well
webster started out almost a year ago on a trip to europe with a former (?)
listee. he had a fabulous time, and then ended up in austrailia for a time.
webby returned home last spring and recouped from his adventures at my lovely
abode in northern virginia (go suburbs!!). mean while back at duck hq lovely
and devine january has been hanging out with me....doing the concert scene
seeing the likes of kd, disappear fear and commonbod! well this summer we all
took a much needed trip to ri for (you guessed it....) newport!!!! where
wonderful listees allowed me to bum rides and seats from them. webby and j
met all sorts of great people. highlights of course: webby introduced to his
god mother web....and january met the always fabulous moxy fruvous and now
adorns autograph tattoos on her butt! webby has since been hanging out with
deb and got to see another ig show and ride home with greg and dwayne (hi
guys!). well webster returned home recently, and folloowing his arrival were
more pictures of his trip to austrailia (im still waiting on the euro
stuff...)!! so we had the holidays together and everything is great.

and now that i have wasted all this space (sorry digest people...i know the
feeling) just two more things....the tour is about to begin again, i have a
bunch of addresses of those interested in participating, but drop me a line
if you are new, or if you are really anxious to have a ball with a duck:)
finally, my intent was to set up a web page (pun so wonderfully intended) of
the duck tour. im on goofy aol, and am as of now html inept (give me time, i
learn fast) so if anyone has suggestions i would love them. i did get a
scanner from santa (go elves!!) so that will make everything a little
easier....

everyone have a wonderful safe new years, and forgive the length...this makes
up for my not posting forever....

kate
--who has been lurking but wants to be a s.b.m. and ben groupie too!!!

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reply-to:     glee <b3102097@cc.ntu.edu.tw>
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subject:      re: hi
in-reply-to:  <199612310133.maa12111@mail.mel.aone.net.au>

hi kel, am i imaging things or i'm actually running into someone who's
both into indigo girls and u2:)

i doubt amy and emily are on the list, but maybe their pals are...

they say the new one's coming out in april  ...as to when
they'll visit the oz, i can only tell you definitely sooner than
taiwan:)...

han
on tue, 31 dec 1996, chris richardson wrote:

> trying to throw my arms around the world!
>

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 22:28:16 est
reply-to:     sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
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subject:      a giant warm fuzzy day for me

hey everyone!

happy birthday to me!  happy birthday to me!  tra la la la!  it has been
an absolutely fantabulous b-day!  thank you to each and everyone one of
you who sent me b-day wishes.  i appreciate it more than you can imagine.
i love you all sooo much.  life would just be dull without the list.

anyway, so the sun came out for a while to celebrate with me, and i
ventured out into the two feet of snow we still have to bring to life
cecil the snowperson.  s/he is very sweet and says hi to everyone.  what
else have i done to celebrate me??  well, i sang closer to fine to my
family during dinner (cause that was the song playing in the cd player)
my family humored my absolutely awful singing cause its my b-day and they
didn't have a choice.  i yelled "everybody whistle"  in my best emily
voice, but i was the only one who attempted to, and they all laughed at
me, cause my whistling abilities are even worse than my singing
abilities.  oh well, maybe in my next life. at least i bring
entertainment to my family.

alright.  thank you again.  :)  and happy birthday to me!  hee hee.

love, sundara <-- who is looking very cute in her new pinstriped overalls
and black ig            baseball hat.

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 22:55:52 est
reply-to:     sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
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subject:      susan day!! (nigc)
x-cc:         susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu

hey everyone!

well, where i live, it isn't quite susan day (still my day)  but on the
east coast, it is susan day!!!  and as pres-y-dent of the sbmfc, i just
wanted to remind everyone that we need to celebrate.  so everyone email
her!!!(susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu)  tell her how much you love her and
that you hope she has a fabulous year.  do something susan like today
(suggestions: convert the un-feminist to feminism, take a stand about
something you passionately believe in, wear combat boots, help someone in
need, drink a beer, tell someone you love them, listen to the indigo
girls, post a lot, believe in yourself, or be real susan-like and do all
of these things)

and remember, her mom will tell you the b stands for beth, but really the
b is for badass!

love, sundara, presi, sbmfc

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 23:52:23 -0500
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subject:      sundara & susan

dear sundara & susan:

put another candle on the birthday cake, the birthday cake, the
birthday cake,

put another candle on the birthday cake, you're another year old
today!

ok, ok, ok, i'm dating myself.

peace, love, & lots of chocolate cake,

melissa
who thanks sheriff john for the use of the birthday song (60's
thing)

p.s.  hey! let's hear it for capricorns!

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subject:      the girls-

since 1991, i have seen the indigo girls eight times, and have taken up
acoustic guitar.  the highlight of my shows was in grand rapids, michigan's
grand center,
for the entire show, i was able to stand directly at the foot of the
ever-so-lovely amy.  a year or so earlier, i was able to get two cd covers
personally autographed to myself, but i was not fortunate enough to
personally meet them.......some day-

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date:         mon, 30 dec 1996 21:34:11 -0800
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subject:      lots of random stuff (igciysoyhasacyef)

for anyone that was wondering, igciysoyhasacyef= "indigo girls content if
you stand on your head and squint and cross your eyes funny". in short,
not much at all. :)

first off, i would like to wish a _very_ happy birthday to sundara, purple
princess and goddess of the hamma hamma river (note: not the hamma hamma
goddess of the river, as was originally propositioned by someone else. :)
) and to abigail, and to (ok, so this is early) the by now legendary susan
b. marine. can i be a groupie, too?

on camp and ig:yes, it is my eternal belief that the two are, possibly
unwittingly, made for each other. the ig sing much about what camps are
trying to help kids learn--not necessarily canoeing or archery but
mostly about themselves. songs that can pull at your emotions and make you
say "woah, they wrote it for me" are so good at making yourself think
about you and the world and therefore fit in really well at camp. did this
make any sense at all? hmmm...probably not. but it works in my world, so
there. :)

uhh...on the "cut it out" thread: i think i might like the song; i know
it's gonna take me a long time to get used to it. though i've never had a
problem with 123...i'll admit, it's not my favorite, but i don't despise
it.

what else? ugh--these are the times when the digest annoys me, though i
have to admit it's saved my inbox. hmmmm. oh, for anyone interested in teh
continuing saga of the pnw weather: yesterday (sunday) it snowed a bunch
in the wee hours in the morning and then turned to rain. yuck---mush and
huge road-lakes everywhere. today it was a bit better (50 degrees!) so
soon y'all will be spared the brainless posts of us snowed-in pnwers. :)

hokay, definately enough for me.
happy new year y'all!
:) steph  <---who is also practicing for a trip south

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 02:20:11 est
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subject:      new year's at rdr

hi folks,

i'm happy to say that i'll be making the trek from nashville down to
rdr for new year's eve.  i do think those of us who will be going should be
careful not to get our hopes up that a & e will show up and play, cause that
could lead to disappointment if they do not.  i've never been to rdr on
nye, but i'm guessing that the final slot is typically reserved for someone
fairly well-known in the atlanta area.  so, even if a & e aren't the tba artists,
it could be someone like kristin hall, etc., which would be very cool as well.
this is purely speculation on my part.  anyway, seems like a & e usually play
somewhere on nye (at least over the last few years) - maybe they would actually
like to do something on nye other than perform (since they will be starting a
new tour in a few months).  we never really consider things from their
perspective.  of course, i could be totally wrong and they could love cutting loose
and rocking out on nye, but i just think we should all just go and anticipate
hearing the artists listed on the rdr schedule and enjoy them.  that way, anything
more will be a bonus/pleasant surprise.

peace, love, music, happiness, prosperity, etc. etc. for 1997 :)

joan :-d

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 01:09:08 -0800
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subject:      and the winner is...

okaay, i was sitting here sewing and i had a very enlightening vision
(pooh spelling for y'all).  i pictured us all sitting in a very
fancy-schmancy network type glitzy awards show and it was our very own...i
think it might be called "the jammies" or some other painfully cutsie
name...we're all award presentors and get to wear our fanciest awards
banquet or charity ball gown (or for some of us, our nicest flannel
shirt)...sundara of course in a big purple thing with some big ole
feathers on her head...and claire in this cher-type gravity defying
number.  (wow!  claire's eyes are popping out of her head as she reads
this! )  tracy and jeni are wearing outfits that complement the bounding
hounds....but enough fashion police.  the most important thing is that
there are all these awards for things we care about...

like, best amy lyric of 1996
   (my vote: well i heard you were free or someone thinks you should
be/and i know just how that feels/ --chiapas bound)

best emily lyric:
   (my vote: all around the table the white-haired men have
gathered/spilling their sons' blood like table wine/ --remember everything
i told you)

best nigc lyric of 1996:
   (my vote:  from sweet relief ii, unknown if it is actually a 1996 lyric
but it was released this year: "when i ran off and left her/she wasn't
holding a baby/she was holding a bottle/and a big grudge against me/"--vic
chestnutt, when i ran off and left her)

those are all the categories that came to me, but maybe y'all can think of
others and add your votes to the above.  i think the jammies will have to
be held in the pnw because we listies here are so good at throwing
parties!  :)

obviously i am suffering from delusions brought on by cabin fever...yay, i
could get my car out of the driveway today!

back to sewing...


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subject:      sigc-"and then there was light"

finally!  after five days, my power is back on!!  five days without this
list and i was going crazy, serious withdrawls!  i want to be the first
to say happy birthday to susan on her birthday (3:00am 31 dec--hey "it's
three am and your good company" sorry, i couldn't resist)!!  happy
birthday to sundra, the purple princess as i've read (through all 146
posts), and to abigial, and to ben!!  and also to anyone else who has or
had a birthday!
btw, i saw the movie "scream" and just about drove my friends crazy
because i went nuts when i saw the ig poster.  then, after it was over,
and we were in the car, "closer to fine" came on over the radio (kmtt
for all you pnws-my fav radio station!)  now, i've listend to so for the
thrid time from sitting in front of my comp.  so after reading al lthe
backed-up posts, i would like to comment on a few:

first ig experience:  in my (grunge?) faze (or fase?), listening to
kndd, another seattle radio station.  "touch me fall"  came over the
radio and i went nuts! i fell in love with that song, mainly because of
the electric guitar part and i had fun headbanging all over my room,
jumping on my bed and stuff.  i was hooked.
padded envelopes:  i loved that thread!  you all are so creative!
quilt:  definetly count me in. sounds like a great idea.  they have
definetly influenced my life.
used cd's:  being the unemployed teenager i was, used cd's were great
because i couldn't afford the newer ones.
that's it about that.

i just want to thank all of you so much, although i am new on this
board, you have been so helpful, with bootlegs and info about guitars
and stuff.  thank you, that's all i can think of to say to you!

happy new year!

andrea (not beth!)

p.s.  i love electricity!

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subject:      b-day wishes, ?'s about newyears, not much igc

hello all, merry new years, and a jolly happy birthday to susan, and a
belated one to that post happy purple girl *wink* (oooh! a thought! the
sundara fan club could be called the violet girls.. get it? violet girls
... indigo girls .. oh never mind! *grin*)

ok, i have a few questions. this is my first new years in atlanta, and i've
been on the list for several years, and know all the fun options on where
to go tonight, and we're basically either going to rdr's shindig, or
eddie's attic. what i'm wondering is, for you atlantaens that have been to
both tons o times... where are the girls most likely to show up? actually,
it might not matter in my decision, because i have friends who are playing
at eddie's, but it would be nice to know... i was also wondering who else
on the list was going to be at rdr or eddies tonight. i'd love to meet
whoever was there .. please feel free to come up and chat with the red-head
in jeans and the swamp ophelia t-shirt, and green sweatshirt tied around
her waist. i moved here from utah last summer and still am trying to get
over actually being here :) it's weird, because i'm from seattle, so i can
relate to all the pnw-ers that are on the list too.

ok enough rambling,

wide eyed and laughing,
amy
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subject:      nigc: happy new year

happy holidays all!!!  i've only been back a couple of days from christmas, but wanted to take this opportunity to wish all my wonderful list friends a happy, healthy, prosperous new year!

i got my beautiful, black fender guitar for christmas, and now have huge blisters on my fingers.  i'm still not good enough to figure out any ig songs, though.  i think i'm going to need to find someone to actually teach me.  i don't know if i'll ever figure it out well enough on my own....

my wonderful sister gave me some new music for christmas--dougie maclean and susan werner.  they are both really good--any comments on them?

i just got good new year news--the university is closing at 3:00 today!  that's 2 more guitar-playing hours for me!!!

again, happy holidays, and happy birthday to sundara, abigail, and susan!!!

love from the blistered one.....

-rich (sbmfc charter member)
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i was wide-eyed and laughing
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subject:      re: that 1st time igc
x-to:         investor@istar.ca

in a message dated 96-12-29 23:53:47 est, investor@istar.ca (patrick
mckeough) writes:

<< in ontario a&e have a huge summer camp following.  are there any other
camping freaks out there who have noticed this?  just curious.   anywho
that's all for now.
  >>

hey all,
(caution: this is long, but i think it's pretty intresting)
this is also my first post to the list and since patrica (i'm sorry about any
sp. from here on out- but i really don't care i just really like typing fast)
anyways.... since partica got the ball rolling with the introduction to ig
thing i thought i'd add to this though and this string with my lovely story.
  of course i was first introducted to ig at summer camp......well, not
exactly,, that's when i fell in love with ig. i was first introduced to ig at
the small radion station that i work for.  we have two ig cds in out (then)
pathetically narrow genreed (another made up word on the ig list) narrow
genreed music library.  the only reason we had them in the first place was
'cause they were promo from the record label.  anyways, one day i randomly
happened upon watershed and realized that i recognized it. also i had just
started voice training and was in love with the harmony.
    warning sidebar:( you can do this really cool thing in proffesional
studios where you turn on the mic and play the cd ans sing along with is and
the whole mix comes out through the headphone and makes a great blend,, and i
did this everytime our transmitter froze over... which was often)
   back to topic:  anyways before i went off to camp that year i had some
birthday $ and gift certificates to burn and i randomly got nms ('cause of
ws)   i really didn't listen to much else on the cd until later that summer.
unlike most everyone else's posts, ig was not the most popular group in this
camp... far from it.  our cabin, being the oldest without perks got shit upon
by everyone else in the camp, we took these frustrations out on each other
when it came to playing music during what little free time we had.  it was
everything from classical, to techno, to metallica to everyday pop and one
girl in my cabin happened to choose ig. i started getting into it cause by
this time in the summer i was bored of most of my music ans sick of the
tastes of my cabinmates and there are no good radio stations in the boondocks
of maine.  i started borrowing my friends' dubs of ig and eventually dubed my
own from here extensive ig collection ( always attend camp with a large
supply of blank tapes) and  those tapes never left the walkman.
  eventually i learned the words to a point that i could really reflected on
the meaning of the lyrics.  that summer was really rough for me to put it
simply i was really confused, to say the least, and basically realized that
"life sucks, and then you die; but not soon enough."-matt cole  (any more
detail and i'll be here through 1997) it was a definite rop summer, i think
my life still is. the only other person in camp who really liked ig was the
head of campcraft and we had so much fun annoying the hell out of younger,
less enlightened, more teenie boping idoit that came along to whine at us
during difficult hikes. (can't you feel the love i had for these people.)
she was one of the two people in this world that i can say that truly
influenced my life in a positive way and that i really, truly cared about.
unfortuately, as our society is a sucks, the director discovered here sexual
orientation and by means of 'screwing her over' in the occupational sense,
forced her to leave. ( but that's another story for another day)
  but ig helped me though so much then and still does now, as many of you
will probably agree; whether it was the message in the music or just being
able to sit in the bottom of the shower and get lost in the harmony, stop
thinking and forget what my major crisis of the moment was. and the messages
vary too; from the 'yah life sucks, we've been through it too' to the 'light
at the end of the tunnel'.
    now i have all of their commerically published albums that they carry in
my area.  there aren't many people here who can stand ig, nevertheless like
them with at passion. i live on the east coast, more exactly massachusettes,
in a community made up of (excuse the french) tight assed, upper-middle
class, white trash, ( i was nice there!!) where the only shelter is the the
local drama department/thespian society (and even that is a debateable
stretch 'cause the word thespian around here is synonomous with lesbian--
and lesbian is synonomous with bad person or something equivilent,--and not
all of us are)  i start my shifts with a ig hit and end with a double or
triple shot, usually one of those is ghost (my favorite, yet the most
painfully reminding song) usually i end up getting a barage of nasty phone
calls about playing "that crap" and get told "to get that shit off the
airwaves" (that's why i play it at the end of the shift, so the next dj has
to deal with the harassment). i even get yelled at by the board of directors,
caure they're pretty tight assed too,( wait i'm the board too!!??)   but one
day, i got this really refreshind phone call just as i walked out the door,
someone called and complimented me on the igc and said that i have a slight
fallowing  out in radioland.  that was nice.  now i'm glad that there's an
outlet of igism ( i knew there were fans "out west").
   i have just one request; i hadn't heard much about bootlegs until i joined
the list and was wondering if someone could personally e mail me and hook me
up with the best boots and how to start trading, it would be much
appreciated. :-}

i hope you all (we write i out in the east- y'all is accepted with the same
knowledge as french)
i hope you all have a great new year's holiday and a great ( and purple) year
1997!!!

later,
mer
my fav. quote:
"there is only one happiness in life, to love and be loved"- george sand- a
letter 1862
11.30p (est) 12.30.96monday

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 12:05:18 -0500
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subject:      re: cut it out

well i like it.  so there. :p

sam<--whose opinion is the only one that matters anyway :-d

> i usually just lurk around but i can't help agreeing with others who don't
>  really like
>  "cut it out".  i keep listening to it over and over but i just can't seem
to
>  find whatever it is that i find in other ig material. you can't like
>  everything i guess ......

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subject:      nigc: happy new year

hey everyone*:

here's wishing the entire list a happy & healthy 1997.

may the year be filled with mucho happiness, creativity (that's a
certainty considering the list membership) and great music.

more importantly let's allow the spirit of the season carry over
throughout the year and try to remember the less fortunate.  by
virtue of our very access & existence on this list indicates our
ownership or use of pc's & centers of higher learning (ok, no barfing.
..i went to college, too).  as joe hamilton would say, "we are the
fortunate ones" and it's true.

twelve months ago i would never have conceived of meeting the kind
(of) & kind people i've met....carolyn, sunny, binky, miranda, trant,
christine, joe, cynthia, howdy, susan, sundara, eric, deb (both),
sasha, photo maven amy putnam, boot queen jude hunter, & our
"honorable" man, russ, etc.**.  you've made me realize how we can
make a large world seem small and small minds grow large.

thanks, happy new year, & peace,

melissa

*  as for not using "ya'all"...sorry, i'm not fm the south and have
spent a cumulative of about 3 mos there my entire life; saying it
would make me either a hypocrite or an extremely contrived person.

**if i've forgotten someone, i'm sorry; everyone has been so kind to
me; yes, even those with armed with flame throwers (a benevolent
flame-thrower????)

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 13:28:20 -0500
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from:         katy wischow <indirabbit@aol.com>
subject:      my second ig dream !!

:)  since y'all are so bored, i'm sure you'll enjoy this :) after being
online for four hours (ahhh - luckily not on my account :) last night, i went
to sleep and dreamed about amy! it was really specific - her hair was like it
was on the picture on the 1200c 1st cd place, with amy and emily and sara
etc.  and her voice was like hers.  i met her somewhere and we were talking
about something really silly, and then i was getting in a car to leave and
she kept saying stuff about calling me later, and for some reason i was in a
hurry (in real life, of course, i would not be in a hurry! :).  then five
minutes later she called and was asking if she could call and wake me up the
next morning, since i had to get up early.  i was saying that she really
didn't need to do that, and she kept saying that she did too because
otherwise i'd never get up.  it really was cute and unfortunately i woke up.
then there was my dream about skipping my class and running from school,
but...:)
have a happy new year y'all!
love and peace and luther and biscuits (flying and butter!)
katy

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 13:20:34 est
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: fa la la la la.... (nigc)
x-to:         dresden5@aol.com
in-reply-to:  <961230175611_1822071352@emout20.mail.aol.com>; from
              "dresden5@aol.com" at dec 30, 96 9:27 pm

> has been absent recently due to school work and some hacker that screwed up
> her college's email system. webby was named by another listtee....ms. deb
sorry to be so anal, but...<lecture> the term for one who commits malicious
acts via computer systems is cracker, *not* hacker. hacker, on the other hand,
is a term of honor applied to people who can do really neato things with
computers.</lecture>
a public service announcement from kirsten

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 13:35:24 est
reply-to:     sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
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from:         sundara r murphy <sundara.the.purple.princess@juno.com>
subject:      re: and the winner is...

alright,  picture me,  wearing a dark purple velvet dress, some slinky
thing that is my feeble attempt at sexiness, heehoo :)  i think i'll
forgo the feathers though, maybe instead i'll color my hair that lovely
shade of manic panic purple fo the occasion. heh heh heh.  aaaww, we do
know how to party here in the pnw.

for starters, i'd just like to say that i don't like this, cause i have
to chose one for each category.  i am way too indecisive for any of that.
but here ya go anyway:

>best amy lyric of 1996
alright, so this isn't a lyric, but it's my vote, so i can do what i want
with it,
"i had a lot of time to think about love, so i wrote some love songs to
non-existence"
    (said before chiapas bound, at the santa fe show this summer)

>best emily lyric:
  "don't drink the water, there seems to be something ailing everyone"
             -get out the map

>best nigc lyric of 1996:
"you don't have to drag me down, i descend"
    -shawn colvin, trouble,  (i have no idea why i love this so much, but
i can't get it                          out of my head)

it is just sooo interesting to me the things that stick in peoples heads,
everyone sees brillance in different ways.  hmmm, maybe i'll ponder that
for a while, since i still can't get out of the driveway, but we are down
to a foot and a half of snow!!!  woo-hoo!

love,
sundara, president, sbmfc

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 14:16:37 -0500
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from:         "elizabeth m. bolles" <wishmonstr@aol.com>
subject:      re: that 1st time igc

'twas said:

<<  that summer was really rough for me to put it
simply i was really confused, to say the least, and basically realized that
"life sucks, and then you die; but not soon enough."-matt cole  (any more
detail and i'll be here through 1997) it was a definite rop summer, i think
my life still is. the only other person in camp who really liked ig was the
head of campcraft and we had so much fun annoying the hell out of younger,
less enlightened, more teenie boping idoit that came along to whine at us
during difficult hikes. (can't you feel the love i had for these people.)
  she was one of the two people in this world that i can say that truly
influenced my life in a positive way and that i really, truly cared about.
unfortuately, as our society is a sucks, the director discovered here sexual
orientation and by means of 'screwing her over' in the occupational sense,
forced her to leave. ( but that's another story for another day) >>

i'm sitting here, jaw hanging, because that is pretty much exactly what this
summer was for me, when i got introduced to ig.  the only difference is that
the director never found out she was gay, but if he did i have a feeling
similar things would happen.  it's so strange to see someone else describing
what happened to me . . .

<<but ig helped me though so much then and still does now, as many of you
will probably agree; whether it was the message in the music or just being
able to sit in the bottom of the shower and get lost in the harmony, stop
thinking and forget what my major crisis of the moment was. and the messages
vary too; from the 'yah life sucks, we've been through it too' to the 'light
at the end of the tunnel'.>>

that's incredibly right!  exactly what i've thought . . .

<<there aren't many people here who can stand ig, nevertheless like
them with at passion. i live on the east coast, more exactly massachusettes,
in a community made up of (excuse the french) tight assed, upper-middle
class, white trash, ( i was nice there!!)>>

we wouldn't happen to live in the same place, would we?  that's my town!

this is too wierd . . . i feel like i posted in my sleep, or something . . .
i'm so dazed . . .

-elizabeth

*************************
"just keep truckin' on . . . "

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 14:56:42 -0800
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from:         pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
subject:      nigc  dimitia

lost yer email address..mail me please..
sorry for the waste of width to the rest of ya all

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 15:32:47 est
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in-reply-to:  <961231140449_271236917@emout01.mail.aol.com>; from "elizabeth m.
              bolles" at dec 31, 96 2:16 pm

> <<there aren't many people here who can stand ig, nevertheless like
> them with at passion. i live on the east coast, more exactly massachusettes,
> in a community made up of (excuse the french) tight assed, upper-middle
> class, white trash, ( i was nice there!!)>>
>
>
> we wouldn't happen to live in the same place, would we?  that's my town!
no, that's *my* town! maybe we're all the same person and just don't realize
it.
kirsten

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 12:54:58 -0800
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from:         kimberly hobbs <kimlin@vcn.bc.ca>
subject:      looking for denise nigc

denise...in 'toronna'

kim in north van has sadly and tragically loserishly lost your email
address and wants to thank you with the bottom of her very being for the
interview tape...which she is listening to and loving. email me
immediatly...now now now!!!

happy new year everyone who has decided to read this far!!

kimmy north van, a very happy camper indeed. wave to powell river kim wee.

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subject:      re: that 1st time igc

now wait a minute everyone ..... she's gottah be talking about my town ......
do we all live in the same place or something ????

the melster

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in a message dated 96-12-31 16:09:16 est, mellie2@aol.com (melinda carneiro)
writes:

<< now wait a minute everyone ..... she's gottah be talking about my town
......
do we all live in the same place or something ????

the melster >>

hey all,
this is mer again.
i think metaphorically we all live in the same place indigoland or indieland
(it's kindda like la la land only much more interesting and with much more
"harmony")
i was sitting around the dinner table tonight having the usual "i've seen too
much of you lately" fight with the good 'ole fam. and though of something
indigoish and slightly profound ( i still have to work on the wording a
little)
"i don't ask that you listen to my music, just that you listen to what my
music stands for." -mer
any feedback???
thanks for all the replies everyone
happy new years
later,
mer
"there is but one happiness in life, to love and be loved."-george sand 1862
10.17pm est 12.31.96 tuesday (now i have to get used to typing 97 in the
dates---good luck!!)

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date:         tue, 31 dec 1996 21:58:41 gmt
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from:         anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@fc.emc.com.ph>
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subject:      ig trivia results

hello and a happy new year to everyone!

here are the answers to my trivia questions:

the song of amy's which emily nixed for their self-titled album was
_nashville_. it was one of amy's earliest compositions, but would not make it
to an ig record until 1992's _rites of passage_. 'twas a good decision not to
put it on the self-titled, methinks -- i don't think it would have "fit in"
with the other songs.

as for the second question ... the ig family member who was supposed to
appear in the ctf video was emily's dad, don saliers. (you obsessed types can
check out the faculty web pages of emory university to see what we missed. :)
according to emily, he even took a day off from work to be a part of the
shoot -- cut class, so to speak. :)

thanks to everyone who participated! here's a list of the folks who got the
*first* question right, in the order that i received their responses: sue
(skwan@midway.uchicago.edu), birthday girl abigail (abaroo), gwendigo, and
kirsten (kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu). congratulations!

sue also gets a special mention as the only person to get the second question
right ...

anna

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