lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-01d

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 00:13:13 -0500
reply-to:     joe hamilton <hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         joe hamilton <hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
subject:      some extra stuff for sale

hey folks! seems like a pretty intense auction going for the wooden 1200
curfews. whoever gets it will love it! i've got a few things to offer:

least complicated promo cd single $7
honor - 2 cd set - sealed and brand new - $16
k's choice - the great subconscious club - sealed and brand new - $14
michelle malone & drag the river - relentless - $17
swamp ophelia unsigned import 12" vinyl - promo cut out - $35

let me know if you need anything.
we are fortunate ones,
joe

hey everybody....

a record store near here says map will be out on march 4th, but i heard it
was pushed back to april. what's the deal? is it march 4th after all?

any insight is appriciated!!

rob

okay, i am a freak, but m.gordon from the uk...write me again, as i
misplaced your addy and feel like you deserve a reply...plus if you want
the jcs video, i need another important address. sorry.

and while i am wasting bandwidth, in regards to the sorority hub-ub...i was
a member of a sorority at a small school in tejas...you all would be quite
amazed how supportive 99% of them were when i announced/we announced we
were dating...that is another member of the same group.  so, just so you
know, it ain't all that bad.  i agree with whoever said to generalize a
group like that, it is akin to saying "those queers" or those "blacks."
who gives a shit?  people are people...

and i guess no one has a list of original writers and performers of the
covers on "leeves?" thought a second asking might do the trick.

thanks....sbeth

______________________________________________________________________________
                                sara mccutchen
                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com

                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

                "we act empty and innocent, we are fueled by dis-
                tortions (i remember you when we were shiny and
                new) of lives led in discontent, trading misfor-
                tunes (now you guard your faith) cause faith is
                one thing that is hard to deliver (temper your
                speed).  it feels funny being free."  --amy ray
______________________________________________________________________________

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 12:04:49 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: more about nazis - nigc
in-reply-to:  <pine.gso.3.95.970120105944.2214e-100000@opus.vcn.bc.ca>

on mon, 20 jan 1997, kimberly hobbs wrote:

> hi indifans,
>
> i'd like to acknowledge chrisii as an authority on this subject matter.
> we have been wrangling back and forth now for a few messages! i thank her
> for her information but i must stress that the bottom line for me, is that
> homosexuals were persecuted, it isn't a contest, ie. well the jews were
> gassed, the gays were only worked to death. that scares me. that it
> happened at all is the point. that i am a lesbian and those like me from
> another generation who loved the way i do were taken from their homes,
> stripped of all dignity, shamed, starved then killed.

what is less well-known about the gay holocaust is that after the war,
memorials were erected to commemorate those who were murdered by the
nazis. but gays were not included in this, because conservative
polticians argued that, because homosexuality was illegal before and after
the war, homosexuals were simply common criminals. which is why there
has been no real commemoration of the atrocities against them until very
recently.

mat

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adverts and junkmail will be read for 500 pounds sterling per item;
sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

hope you don't mind the bandwidth - but its been ages since i delurked to
say hi - and try and put a smile on your faces!!

be warned.. there's one for the men coming up in a mo...

hope alls well out there in indigo land - take care y'all!

jules.

i'm glad i'm a woman

            i'm glad i'm a woman, yes i am, yes i am
        i don't live off of budweiser, beer nuts and spam.
           i don't brag to my buddies about my erections
        i won't drive to hell before i ask for directions.
        i don't get wasted at parties and act like a clown
        and i know how to put the damned toilet seat down!
            i won't grab your hooters, i won't pinch your butt
      my belt buckle's not hidden beneath my beer gut
       and i don't go around "readjusting" my crotch
        or yell like tarzan when my head-board gets a notch
            i don't belch in public, i don't scratch my behind
        i'm a woman you see --  i'm just not that kind!
            i'm glad i'm a woman, i'm so glad i could sing
        i don't have body hair like shag carpeting
        it doesn't grow from my ears or cover my back
        when i lean over you can't see 3 inches of crack
        and what's on my head doesn't leave with my comb
       i'll never buy a toupee to cover my dome
        or have a few hairs pulled from over the side
            i'm a woman, you know -- i've got far too much pride!
        and i honestly think its a privilege for me
        to have these two boobs and squat when i pee
            i don't live to play golf and shoot basketball
        i don't swagger and spit like a neanderthal
        i won't tell you my wife just does not understand
        stick my hand in my pocket to hide that gold band
        or tell you a story to make you sigh and weep
        then screw you, roll over and fall sound asleep!
            yes, i'm glad i'm a woman, a woman you see
        you can forget all about that old penis envy
        i don't long for male bonding, i don't cruise for chicks
        join the hair club for men, or think with my dick
        i'm a woman by chance and i'm thankful it's true
       i'm so glad i'm a woman and not a man like you!

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"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush,
when i wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush"

<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>
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ok.. 2nd part - for those of you not hitting the auto-delete button! ;)
jules.

>>
>>>       i'm glad i'm a man
>>>
>>>            i'm glad i'm a man, you better believe.
>>>        i don't live off of yogurt, diet coke, or cottage cheese
>>>        i don't bitch to my girlfriends about the size of my breasts
>>>        i can get where i want to - north, south, east or west
>>>        i don't get wasted after only 2 beers
>>>        and when i do drink i don't end up in tears.
>>>            i won't spend hours deciding what to wear,
>>>        i spend 5 minutes max fixing my hair
>>>        and i don't go around checking my reflection
>>>        in everything shiny from every direction.
>>>        i don't whine in public and make us leave early
>>>        and when you ask why get all bitter and surly.
>>>            i'm glad i'm a man, i'm so glad i could sing
>>>        i don't have to sit around waiting for that ring.
>>>            i don't gossip about friends or stab them in the back
>>>        i don't carry our differences into the sack.
>>>            i'll never go psycho and threaten to kill you
>>>        or think every guy out there's trying to steal you.
>>>            i'm rational, reasonable, and logical too
>>>        i know what the time is and i know what to do.
>>>            and i honestly think its a privilege for me
>>>        to have these two balls and stand when i pee
>>>        i live to watch sports and play all sorts of ball
>>>        it's more fun than dealing with women after all
>>>        i won't cry if you figure out it's not going to work
>>>        i won't remain bitter and call you a jerk.
>>>            feel free to use me for immediate pleasure
>>>        i won't assume it's permanent by any measure.
>>>            yes, i'm glad i'm a man, a man you see
>>>        i'm glad i'm not capable of child delivery
>>>        i don't get all bitchy every 28 days
>>>        i'm glad that my gender gets me a much bigger raise
>>>        i'm a man by chance and i'm thankful it's true
>>>        i'm so glad i'm a man and not a woman like you!

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"dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush
when i wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush"

<http://www.rdg.ac.uk/pris/sed/juliet/home2.html>
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the need to post.

funny story...it is our fist blizzard (at least for those of us from texas)
here in the mighty fine country of japan...and well, i have two heaters and
a 'lectric blankie on...but my apartment is still bitterly cold.  why?
thought the las cruces boot would warm me up...make me think of finer days
in sunny america.  no good.  some x-files from season three...entertaining,
but they don't keep me warm.  well, i decide to hang a blanket in front of
the sliding glass door (on top of two layers of curtains)...come to
find...the top window is wide open!!  that might explain it.  thanks to
maren, another listee, for making me open it the other night, as the smoke
was unbearable.

just thought i would share...

no word on the "levees" songs...someone must know. please!!!

sara

                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 09:37:09 est
reply-to:     "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
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from:         "christopher m. becker" <cmbecker@space.mit.edu>
subject:      nigc (humor): martha
x-cc:         "don a. smith" <dasmith@netspace.org>,
              stefanie pryor <stefanie_pryor.monitor@notes.monitor.com>,
              kristi morgansen <kristi@arcadia.harvard.edu>

hey folks,

this may be old to some, sheer spam to others (or both for you?) --
but i'm still laughing 12 hours after reading this so i thought i'd
share. for those not familliar, martha stewart includes a monthly
calendar in her magazine "living" with helpful entries like (and i'm
not making this up):

        sept 24: make cold frames for tomato plants today, well
                 before the first fall frost.
        sept 25: appear on today show, 8:45 est

don't ask me how i know these things. anyway, enjoy!

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the following are the entries submitted in the washington post's
"style invitational," a weekly humor contest. this time, folks were
asked to submit entries for martha stewart's december-january
calendar. (the winning entry, by the way, is shown for jan. 31.)

dec. 1
blanch carcass from thanksgiving turkey. spray-paint gold, turn
upside down and use as a sleigh to hold christmas cards.
(jennifer earner, vienna)

dec. 2
have mormon tabernacle choir record outgoing christmas message for
answering machine.
(stephen dudzik, silver spring)

dec. 3
using candlewick and hand-gilded miniature pine cones, fashion
cat-o'-nine-tails. flog gardener.
(virginia ann james, alexandria)

dec. 4
address sympathy cards for all friends with elderly relatives, so
that they're all ready to be mailed the moment death occurs.
(tom witte, gaithersburg; russell beland, springfield)

dec. 5
get new eyeglasses. grind lenses myself.
(ann makowski, alexandria)

dec. 6
fax family christmas newsletter to pulitzer committee for consideration.
(stephen dudzik, silver spring)

dec. 7
debug windows 95.
(paul styrene, olney)

dec. 10
finish needlepoint colostomy bag cozy.
(paul styrene, olney)

dec. 11
buy some cockroaches from the less fortunate; decorate eggs.
(tom witte, gaithersburg)

dec. 12
update enemies list. place in hermetically sealed vault. remove
air, replace with nitrogen.
(art grinath, takoma park)

dec. 13
visit crematorium. collect dentures. they make excellent pastry
cutters, particularly for decorative pie crusts.
(sarah pekruhn and david winker, washington)

dec. 14
install plumbing in gingerbread house.
(tracy kiely, laurel)

dec. 15
replace air in minivan tires with glade "holiday scents" in case
tires are shot out at the mall.
(joel knanishu, hyattsville)

dec. 17
childproof the christmas tree with garlands of razor wire.
(lillian wray, annapolis)

dec. 19
adjust legs of chairs so each christmas dinner guest will be the
same height when sitting at his or her assigned seat.
(tom witte, gaithersburg)

dec. 20
dip sheep and cows in egg white and roll in confectioner's sugar to
add a festive sparkle to the pasture.
(sarah worcester, bowie)

dec. 21
outfit neighborhood rats with tiny antlers.
(aaron goldschmidt and dorothy hickson, arlington; stephen dudzik,
silver spring)

dec. 22
float votive candles in toilet tank.
(jennifer hart, arlington)

dec. 23
seed clouds for white christmas.
(mimi jordan, gaithersburg; brendan beary, great mills)

dec. 24
do my annual good deed: go to several stores. be seen engaged in
last-minute christmas shopping, thus making many people feel less
inadequate than they really are.
(meg sullivan, potomac)

dec. 25
bear son. swaddle. lay in color-coordinated manger scented with
homemade potpourri.
(kevin vail and david starn, bethesda; jessica steinhice, washington)

dec. 26
write and mail christmas thank-yous. order cards for next
christmas. estimate number of cards needed by allowing for making new
friends and actuarially appropriate death rates for current friends
and relatives.
(russell w. beland, springfield)

dec. 27
build snowman in exact likeness of god.
(christopher buban, alexandria)

dec. 31
new year's eve! give staff their resolutions.
(ann makowski, alexandria)

call a friend in each time zone of the world as the clock strikes
midnight in that country.
(kevin cuddihy, fairfax; robin d. grove, baltimore)

jan. 1, 1997
catch up on gardening. sew leaves back onto trees. do all cooking for
1997.
(greg and kate mcminn, washington)

jan. 3
repaint sistine chapel ceiling in ecru, with mocha trim.
(christopher buban, alexandria)

jan. 5
drain city reservoir; refill with mulled cider, orange slices and
cinnamon sticks.
(jennifer hart, arlington)

jan. 7
lay faberge egg.
(maja keech, new carrollton)

jan. 8
freshen air in home by sliding a dozen dr. scholl's shoe inserts
into heat pump.
(jean sorensen, herndon)

jan. 10
make steel wool from mussel beards saved over the years.
(tom witte, gaithersburg)

jan. 13
spin silk cord to garrotte squid; fill fountain pen with the ink
and hand-write staff their dismissal notes.
(virginia ann james, alexandria)

jan. 15
mlk birthday. find out who mlk is.
(paul kocak, syracuse, n.y.)

jan. 16
take dog apart. disinfect. reassemble.
(sarah worcester, bowie)

jan. 20
organize spice racks by genus and phylum.
(sandra hull, arlington)

jan. 21
culture ancient dna into dinosaurs for nieces and nephews.
(jonathan paul, garrett park)

jan. 23
align carpets to adjust for curvature of earth.
(paul kocak, syracuse)

jan. 25
receive delivery of new phone books. old ones make ideal personal
address books. simply cross out the names and addresses of all the
people you do not know.
(sarah pekruhn and david winker, washington)

jan. 26
review the christmas '95 show and try to understand why julia child
is much beloved even though her croquembouche was very much askew.
(j.f. martin, hoover, ala.)

jan. 28
attend workshop on obsessive-compulsive disorders. take verbatim
notes.
(greg and kate mcminn, washington)

jan. 31
gild lilies.
(stephen dudzik, silver spring)

ok, to help sara out . . . i got these off the lifeblood site. all the
covers on levees are the same as the songs on tuesday's children. i went
to the lyrics section and copied down who was credited for the lyrics and
filled in those that weren't credited. if there's a + after the name that
means the song wasnt credited on the site so i put in what i knew. i'm
sure if i'm wrong everyone will correct me (i looked the 2 kenny loggins
songs up to be sure and he is credited on olga and his own personal kenny
loggins webpage hehe it even has a nice little note from him). :)

     * wysteria -- dan fogelberg
     * carolina in my mind -- james taylor
     * junkies lament -- james taylor +
     * her town too -- james taylor
     * house at pooh corner -- kenny loggins +
     * danny's song -- kenny loggins +
     * rock me on the water -- jackson browne
     * father and son -- cat stevens
     * come down in time -- elton john/bernie taupin
     * it's too late -- carole king
     * you've got a friend -- carole king
     * dancing shoes -- dan fogelberg
     * long ago and far away -- james taylor + (it's not c. king's song)
     * a heart in new york -- paul simon

if you want to check out the lyrics, go to:

http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood/tuesday.html

kristina

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trying to read andrade@az.com
the greek upon the stars http://www.az.com/~andrade

i accidently lost sundara's email and snail mail address. can someone send
me her screen name so i contact her ? thanks :-)

rose

saw this at a site i just found:
http://www.mrshowbiz.com:80/reviews/musicreviews/music/upcoming4.html

indigo girls: get out the map (epic)
the tentatively titled get out the map was recorded last year in nashville,
austin, and atlanta, and features guest appearances by steve earle, and,
curiously, r&b producer dallas austin. it was produced by the girls
themselves--amy ray and emily saliers--with david leonard. in stores in
early april.

ok, so we already knew that. but more intriguing (and scary)...

various artists: lounge-a-palooza (hollywood)
from pat boone to steve lawrence and eydie gorme? sadly, yes. the fundamental
premise behind this high-concept tribute album is cover versions of
cocktail classics, such as the pizzicato five tackling "the girl from
ipanema." but deviations from that formula are many, like glen campbell,
freddy fender, and michelle shocked teaming up for a new version of
campbell's hit "wichita lineman." elsewhere, jimmy scott performs captain
and tenille's "love will keep us together" with the red hot chili peppers'
flea, while pj harvey tackles "zaz turned blue," a song mel torme sang on
the second was (not was) album. but the concept gets turned completely on
its ear when dinner-show legends steve and eydie duet on soundgarden's
"black hole sun," backed by a thirty-piece orchestra. in stores this
spring.

zoinks!

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/\_/\   i saw a median on the highway, and there's a cat
{ o.o }  trying to to cross the road, and i think,
> ^ <   pick up the cat, put it in the car and take it home.
/     \                                              a.  ray

#----------------------------------please note---------------------------------#
#this file is the author's own work and represents their interpretation of the #
#song. you may only use this file for private study, scholarship, or research. #
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closer to fine (emily saliers)
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  this song isn't too hard to play, but it sounds pretty impressive once
you've got it down.  i sort of learned to play the guitar on this song.
  i've written the chords down according to the way amy & emily play the
song, as best as i can figure out from watching tv and stuff.  if you're
not quite up to playing d11's or four-fingered c's yet, you can play the
d11's as d(9) or even d, and you can play the c's as x32010, but it won't
sound as good.
  i'd recommend learning the full c (332010) anyway if you don't already
know it, because it's a nice chord to know; once you know it, sliding
between it and d11 (554030) is really easy.
  on the full-measure c chords, hammer-on and pull-off with your middle
finger on the d string, so that the chord alternates between c and c(9).

the song is actually in a, so capo at the 2nd fret.

here's the approximate tab for the introduction, and the part that
you play through the first part of the verses (but when you actually
play it, it's hard to just hit the single note at the beginning of each
chord; usually you hit two or three strings):

g g6/a c(9) dsus d d(9) d
e ----3---3-3-3-3-----3---3-3-3-3-|----3---3-3-3-3---2---0---2-2-2-|
b ----3---3-3-3-3-----3---3-3-3-3-|----3---3-3-3-3---3---3---3-3-3-|
g ----0---0-0-0-0-----0---0-0-0-0-|----0---0-0-0-2---2---2---2-2-2-|
d ----0---0-0-0-0-----2---2-2-2-2-|----2---2-2-2-0---0---0---0-0-0-|
a ----2---2-2-2-2-0---------------|3-------------------------------|
e 3-------------------------------|--------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

each chord represents half of a measure, except the "ds,d,d9,d" thing, which
is half a measure total, and "g - d", which is also half a measure total.
"d9" really means d(9), and "ds" is dsus. "n.c." means "no chord."

g g6/a c(9) ds,d,d9,d g g6/a c(9) ds,d,d9,d
[intro]

    g                   g6/a               c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
i'm trying to tell you something 'bout my life
      g                g6/a               c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
maybe give me insight between black and white
        d11                d11           c      c
and the best thing you've ever done for me
      d11              d11              c        c         g        g6/a
is to help me take my life less seriously; it's only life after all
c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
[instrumental]

     g               g6/a           c(9)     ds,d,d9,d
well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable
    g                g6/a                 c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
and lightness has a call that's hard to hear
  d11               d11              c      c
i wrapped my fear around me like a blanket
  d11                d11           c           c                  g - d   g
i sailed my ship of safety till i sank it; i'm crawling on your shore

  d            d        c(9)          g
i went to the doctor, i went to the mountains
  d                d        c(9)             g
i looked to the children, i drank from the fountain
        d11            d11              c        c                 g         g
there's more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked line
        d11             d11              c [stop]      n.c.
and the less i seek my source for some definitive, the closer i
g          g6/a   c(9)    dsus     g         g6/a   c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
am to fine,           the closer i am to fine

   g               g6/a         c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
i went to see the doctor of philosophy
       g             g6/a         c(9)              d
with a poster of rasputin and a beard down to his knee
   d11        d11     c              c
he never did marry or see a b grade movie
   d11           d11         c                    c
he graded my performance, he said he could see through me
        g                 d              c(9)         d              g - d   g
i spent 4 years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and i was free

  d            d        c(9)          g
i went to the doctor, i went to the mountains
  d            d        c(9)             g
i looked to children, i drank from the fountain
        d11            d11              c        c                 g         g
there's more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked line
        d11             d11              c [stop]      n.c.
and the less i seek my source for some definitive, the closer i
g          g6/a   c(9)    dsus     g         g6/a   c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
am to fine,           the closer i am to fine

d d c(9) c(9) d d c(9) c(9)
[whistle]

  g               g6/a      c(9)   ds,d,d9,d
i stopped by the bar at 3 a.m.
        g            g6/a      c(9)         d
to seek solace in a bottle or possibly a friend
      d11              d11             c              c
and i woke up with a headache like my head against a board
d11             d11               c                 c                 g     g
twice as cloudy as i'd been the night before, and i went in seeking clarity

  d            d        c(9)          g
i went to the doctor, i went to the mountains
  d           d         c(9)             g
i looked to children, i drank from the fountain
   d          d         c(9)        g
we go to the doctor, we go to the mountains
   d             d          c(9)             g
we look to the children, we drink from the fountain
   d          d        c(9)            g
we go to the bible, we go through the workout
   d             d        c(9) [stop]           g [stop]
we read up on revival, we stand up for the lookout
        d11            d11              c       c                  g         g
there's more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked line
        d11             d11              c             n.c.
and the less i seek my source for some definitive, the closer i
g          g6/a   c(9)    dsus     g         g6/a   c(9)    dsus
am to fine,           the closer i am to fine           the closer i
g          g6/a   c(9)    ds,d,d9,d   g.
am to fine

chords:
g = 320033    g6/a = x02033    c(9) = x32033 or x32030 or 330010
d = x00232    dsus = x00233    d(9)= x00230
c = 332010    d11 = 554030

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

=> * a heart in new york -- paul simon

paul simon did not write this song. benny gallagher and graham lyle did.
and if memory serves me correctly, it was recorded by art garfunkel
although simon performs it with him on the concert in central park cd.

deb

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 15:54:37 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      chords to crazy game, by adam schneider, rob sticka,
              scott ninnemann , and ann mahasaen

because i didn't send one yesterday, here's an extra one for today ...

crazy game (emily saliers)
--------------------------
* these are the chords as they are written in the sheet music, although i find
  it much, much easier to play this song in d (instead of e).  to play in d,
  just play all the chords as if they were a whole step lower (e.g., b7 becomes
  a7), and capo up two frets.  of course, it doesn't sound quite right that
   way, but at least it's humanly possible.
* |'s separate measures.
* if there are two chords in one measure, each chord is half the measure,
  save for the 2nd-to-last measure in the chorus (the a6 and am6 are quarters),
  and the 2nd-to-last measure of the song (the b7 and b7+5 are quarters).

b7(4) b7(-9+5) | emaj9 | e9 | f#m9/e | fmaj7 | e | c#7+5 | f#m9 | b7 b7+5 |
[intro]

      | emaj9   | bm9/e   | a6      | fm7+11  |
crazy game, i never should have started to play; but now you couldn't tear me
| e       | c#7-9+5 | f#m9    | b   b+  |
away; love is sweet, sweet baby, so good to you, and so bad; and i
| emaj9   | bm9/e   | a6      | fm7+11  |
swear, the situation's clear before my eyes; confusion wants to break me & it
| e       | c#7-9+5 | f#m9    | b9      |
tries; i've been a little bit stronger from the start; listen to my heart

| e | c#7+9+5 | f#m9 | b7 b7+5 |
[instrumental]

you dry your tears, don't be thinking grey is here to stay
sometimes everything's in the way
you're wanting to look at it, turn your view around, dry your eyes
eyes like yours should carry a smile, i haven't seen them sparkle in a while
give it one more try, dry your eyes

'cause if you're ever believing i'm thinking of leaving
look to the moon, 'cause it's a fact
she may go wandering about, but she always comes shining back, and it's true
i'll wait for you

| e | c#7+9+5 | em9 b7 b7+5 | emaj9 .
[instrumental]

- adam schneider, schn0170@maroon.tc.umn.edu

date: fri, 25 oct 1996 08:10:56 -0400
from: rob sticka <rob.sticka@gsfc.nasa.gov>
subject: crazy game - by indigo girls

b7(4) b7(-9+5) | emaj9 | e9 | f#m9/e | fmaj7 | e | c#7+5 | f#m9 | b7 b7+5 |
[intro]

| e | c#7+9+5 | f#m9 | b7 b7+5 |
[instrumental]

'cause if you're ever believing i'm thinking of leaving
look to the moon, 'cause it's a fact
she may go wandering about, but she always comes shining back, and it's true
i'll wait for you

| e | c#7+9+5 | em9 b7 b7+5 | emaj9 .
[instrumental]

- adam schneider, schn0170@maroon.tc.umn.edu

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----

**** here is a more complete and accurate version ****

crazy game -- emily saliers
___________________________

tab by scot ninnemann, rob sticka, and ann mahasaen

this version is compiled from the first olga version, by watching emily's
fingering on videos, and by ear from the strange fire cd. of course,
there are always a few minor variations between various performances of
this song, usually slightly different strumming patterns.

here are some suggested fingerings for chords. please note especially the
first three chords of the song as well as the last three chords of the
chorus as fingered here--because the fingerings shown here of these chords
are related, it will make switching between these chords much easier:

t=thumb, 1=index, 2=middle, 3=ring, 4=pinky

     c#7                b7             b7                f#7
(bar 4th fret)    (bar 2nd fret)  (bar 7th fret)
-----------       -----------     -----------        ===========
1 1 1 1 1 1       1 1 1 1 1 1     1 1 1 1 1 1        | | | | | |
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | | | | |       | | | | | |     | | | 2 | |        t x 1 | 2 x
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | 3 | 4 |       | | 3 | 4 |     | 3 | | | |        | | | 3 | |
-----------       -----------     -----------        -----------
| | | | | |       | | | | | |     | | | | | |        | | | | | |

  amaj7             amaj7          f#m7             fmaj7
(bar 5th fret)
-----------       ===========    ===========      ===========
1 1 1 1 1 1       x | | 1 | |    | | | | | |      t x | | 1 |
-----------       -----------    -----------      -----------
| | 2 3 | |       | | 2 | 3 |    t x 1 2 3 |      | | 2 3 | |
-----------       -----------    -----------      -----------
| 4 | | | |       | | | | | |    | | | | | |      | | | | | |

amaj7: emily plays the amaj7 at the 0 fret. if it's easier for
you, play this chord at the 5th fret.

if you have trouble using your thumb on the f#7, f#m7, and fmaj7
chords, try using these fingerings:

f#7 f#m7 fmaj7

===========        ===========     ===========
| | | | | |        | | | | | |     1 x | | 2 |
-----------        -----------     -----------
1 x 2 | 3 |        1 x 2 3 4 |     | | 3 4 | |
-----------        -----------     -----------
| | | 4 | |        | | | | | |     | | | | | |

emily plays b7 at the seventh fret during the "...and it's true..." part.

first three chords of the song:
(first fret shown is seventh fret)

   b11              b7+5-9            emaj7
-----------       -----------      -----------
1 x 2 | 3 |       1 x 2 | | |      | 1 x | 2 3  <---seventh fret
-----------       -----------      -----------
| | | 4 | |       | | | 4 4 4      | | | 4 | |  <---eighth fret

different fingering (if you prefer the thumb) for  b7+5-9
                                                 -----------
                                                 t x 1 | | |
                                                 -----------
                                                 | | | 2 2 2

intro and verse tab

///=slide, x=muted string

e--0----8---|------7-x-7-------7-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
b--7----8---|------7-x-7-------7-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
g--8----8---|------8-x-8-------8-----|----7-x---x-7-----7/9---|
d--7----7---|------x-x-x-------x-----|6---6-x---x-6---6-------|
a--x----x---|----x-7-x-7-----7-7-----|7---7-------7---7-------|
e--7----7---|0---0-------0---0-----0-|0---------------0-------|
(ribato) ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                          (this ms. first time only,
                           strum fmaj7 thereafter.)
e-------4---2-----2-------|----------0-----0-------|-----------------------|
b-----------2-----2-------|--------1---1-----1-----|----------------5-7----|
g-----------2-----2-------|------2-------2-----2---|------------4-6--------|
d-------------2-----2-----|----2-----------------2-|--------2/6------------|
a-------------0-----0-----|------------------------|----2-4----------------|
e-0---------------------0-|1-----------------------|0----------------------|
  ^     ^     ^     ^      ^     ^     ^     ^     |^     ^     ^     ^

e-------4---5-------4-----|----4-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----0-0---------8-8----|
b-------6---6-------6-----|----2-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----7-7---------8-8----|
g-----4-----------4-------|----2-x-x-x-2---2-x-----|----8-8---------8-8----|
d-------------------------|----2-x-x-x-2---4-x-----|----7-7---7-7---7-7----|
a-4-----------4-----------|----4-x-x-x-4---4-x-----|----x-x---x-x-----x----|
e-----------------------0-|2-----------2------02////7-----7---7-7-----7---7|
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ |^ ^ ^ ^

there is a quick open e string right here ^ before the 2slide7.

repeat (excluding first two chords at the beginning) for the verse,
substituting a b7 for the last measure:

first verse
crazy game, i never should have started to play
but now you couldn't tear me away
love is sweet, sweet baby, so good to you, and so bad
and i fear, the situation's clear before my eyes
confusion wants to break me and it tries
i've been a little bit stronger from the start

b7(2nd fret)
listen to my heart

chorus:
a(5th fret) am(5th fret)
'cause if you're ever believing i'm thinking of leaving

g#m(4th fret) c#7
look to the moon 'cause it's a fact

f#m g#m a(5th fret)
she may go wandering about, but she always comes shining back

b7(7th fret) amaj7 g#m f#7 f#m7 fmaj7
and it's true i'll wait for you

(for these last three chords, be sure to use the fingerings listed at the
start of this document) this then leads into the last four measures of
the verse played as an instrumental break, and the verse then restarts:

second verse (play same as 1st verse)
you dry your tears, don't be thinking grey is here to stay
sometimes everything's in the way
you're wanting to look at it turn your view around
dry your eyes eyes like yours should carry a smile
i haven't seen them sparkle in a while
give it one more try, dry your eyes

chorus again

the last two chords of the song are:

---8----0-----
---8----7-----
---8----8-----
---7----6-----
---x----7-----
---7----0-----

could someone please tell me how to get my grubby little hands on the
levees that break in my heart cd? i think i missed that post...

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*the future is no place to place your better days*

i read earlier on here that someone was using juno ... well they should
read this.

mat

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: 20 jan 1997 07:07:55 gmt
from: tremolux <tremolux@aol.com>
newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
subject: another spammer haven identified!

i received the following unsolicited message from a mr.tim hearst
(timhearst@juno.com), shortly after sending a complaint to the postmaster
at that domain about receiving uce. i have received uce several times
from juno, and they seem to do nothing about it. set your spam filters
accordingly.

the message he copied back to me was one i posted here in this ng
complaining about another spamming domain. seems like the spammers like
to troll here to get new addresses for their spew. spammers of a feather
stick together?

it seems to me that juno is rogue, and should have their plug pulled.

========================================================

subj:   spam messages
date:   97-01-19 20:36:11 est
from:   timhearst@juno.com (tim hearst)
to:     tremolux@aol.com

subject:      isp admits to being spam haven!!
from:         tremolux@aol.com (tremolux)
date:         1997/01/11

check this out:  i received an unsolicited email spam that originated
from
this site, (pasiton.com) which has some relationship with the e-znet.com
domain.  i complained to the postmasters at pasiton and e-znet and
received the following response.  they admit they support their user's
"right" to spam!!  moreover, when i replied to the address
"administrator@pasiton.com", the message bounced as being an invalid
email
address!!!  clearly, this is a net-abusive rogue site, and should have
their plug pulled without delay.  (original spam is included for
reference.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------

first of all, its not up to you to decide who "gets their plug pulled
without delay",
thats the beauty of the internet, in that noone---least of all you---has
control over it.
i don't like spam either, but i sure as hell am not going to waste my
time with it, when
there is a "delete" button. also, a lot of these spam people let you
"remove" from their list.
why don't you do something productive with your time, like fight the
_real_ intrusions
on the internet----from the government. help people use pgp if you really
want to make a difference
or something.

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return-path: timhearst@juno.com
received: from x3.boston.juno.com (x3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.22]) by
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<tremolux@aol.com>; sun, 19 jan 1997 20:35:24 -0500
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x-mailer: juno 1.00
x-juno-line-breaks: 0-5,7-11,13-18,20,22,24,26,28,30-33
from: timhearst@juno.com (tim hearst)

     just writing so that i feel like a participant once in a while
instead of just a lurker. it's probably only my second time. anyway, i'm
sure there's no relation, but doesn't the march 4 date fall very close to
national women's day?(i think it's on the 5th or 6th according to a aauw
pamphlet i got). also i have been listening to shame on you since my
sister went to mexico last week.(she stayed at cancun but took side trips
to other places like chitzanitza(sp?)and brought me back a silver and
turquoise ring from the maya there.) i saw a marked difference in the
nojf version from may from the more recent versions. there are word
changes here and there and in the guitar solos different emphasis on
certain parts which make them stand out more. i lean more towards the
earlier way it was played with more of a crecendo.
         a last couple of notes. go pats! since i haven't seen it written
yet. i do love beantown with a passion and hope to get there permanantly
some day. i guess the grass always seems greener on the other side of the
street. no offense to phily or it's people, but it's not the cleanest
town. just my opinion, everybody's got different taste. the people aren't
the friendliest either.
   i also love the alanta musicians introduced to me on this list. gee
are there any lousy one's down there? just kidding. i bought kristen
hall's fact or fiction this weekend. she's fantastic. see you.
    pj :)

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 15:08:57 -0500
reply-to:     cappy <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         cappy <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>
subject:      ligc, a funny thing
x-to:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
in-reply-to:  <pine.osf.3.95.970121190032.15515e-100000@osfb.aber.ac.uk>

        the other day i was walking down the street listening to 1200
curfews, i heard my name being called out and thought someone was yeling
at me.  so, i look around and dont see anyone i know.  now for a few
seconds i was really confused.  until i realized what i had heard was
people shouting for amy on the tape.  with my headphones on it sounded
like someone yelling from far away.  so, then i start laughing and
everyone is looking at me funny, but hey i was amused.

amy

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 13:43:56 -0500
reply-to:     meghan <mkmst23+@pitt.edu>
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from:         meghan <mkmst23+@pitt.edu>
subject:      more holocaust stuff...
in-reply-to:  <199701211438.jaa09652@netspace.org>

okay, as a history major whose concentration is the holocaust
specifically, and ww2 generally, i resisted as long as i could before
jumping in here. and, strange as it may seem, i'm going to stay away from
the historical things for a minute. i'm just curious (and i'm not trying
to start a war here) as to how everyone can say *never forget*, and
*remember the six million*, while sitting back and remaining blissfully
ignorant of the atrocities occurring in bosnia? for your information, the
same ethnic cleansing practiced by the nazis in ww2 is reoccurring in
bosnia. croats are being placed in work camps and death camps by their
serbian counterparts, and vice versa. one image springs to mind...the face
of an emaciated man in ragged clothes peering out from behind barbed wire,
watching an armed guard march his watch. this image is dual...both from
the nazi holocaust, and from the new holocaust being perpetrated in
bosnia. it's very easy to say *never forget*, but a different thing
entirely to sit up and do something when it begins to happen anew. like i
said earlier...i'm not trying to start a fight, and if anyone feels like
flaming me, go ahead...i just wanted to remind everyone that history
repeats itself...but only if you let it.

meg(stepping off the soapbox and donning flame retardent gear)
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*the future is no place to place your better days*

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 12:24:43 -0800
reply-to:     "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@netspace.org>
from:         "jessica owen (general)" <a-jessio@microsoft.com>
subject:      woman's day (nigc)
x-to:         shawn e daly <paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil>

international woman's day is march 8th...

"we're all in the same big boat, we can all sink or we can float..."

-the police

>-----original message-----
>from:  shawn e daly [smtp:paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil]
>sent:  tuesday, january 21, 1997 10:57 am
>to:    multiple recipients of list indigo-girls
>subject:       map release
>
>     just writing so that i feel like a participant once in a while
>instead of just a lurker. it's probably only my second time. anyway, i'm
>sure there's no relation, but doesn't the march 4 date fall very close to
>national women's day?(i think it's on the 5th or 6th according to a aauw
>pamphlet i got). also i have been listening to shame on you since my
>sister went to mexico last week.(she stayed at cancun but took side trips
>to other places like chitzanitza(sp?)and brought me back a silver and
>turquoise ring from the maya there.) i saw a marked difference in the
>nojf version from may from the more recent versions. there are word
>changes here and there and in the guitar solos different emphasis on
>certain parts which make them stand out more. i lean more towards the
>earlier way it was played with more of a crecendo.
>         a last couple of notes. go pats! since i haven't seen it written
>yet. i do love beantown with a passion and hope to get there permanantly
>some day. i guess the grass always seems greener on the other side of the
>street. no offense to phily or it's people, but it's not the cleanest
>town. just my opinion, everybody's got different taste. the people aren't
>the friendliest either.
>   i also love the alanta musicians introduced to me on this list. gee
>are there any lousy one's down there? just kidding. i bought kristen
>hall's fact or fiction this weekend. she's fantastic. see you.
>    pj :)
>
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did you miss me? i missed you all terribly. you're probably sick of
these "welcome me" back messages, i'm probably later than everyone else.
but tolerate it because i'm so happy to be back. :) i had a fun ig
holiday: mom, i mean santa let me roam free in the cd aisle at best buy
and i discovered some wonderful things under the tree....jcs resurrection
was among them, along with kristen hall's be careful what you wish for,
shawn colvin's a few small repairs, and some compilations of awesome folk
artists, but my absolute favorite new cd is catie curtis' truth from lies.
if you haven't heard it, run don't walk to your nearest cool music
store...

i'll quit wasting bandwidth now, hi to everyone i know & love, esp. the
pnw crew, i'm sorry i missed the latest gathering, but ya know, it is a 12
hour drive....

;) marianne

t minus 85 days to graduation!!!

hey, this may be a repeat, but does anyone know what a&e
say at the very end of the least complicated track on so?

it's really faint in the background and i can't make it out.

thanks.....

peace, love, & all things indigo,

jo
jmelnik@lucent.com

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 16:25:45 -0500
reply-to:     susan tomlinson <teddie@mindspring.com>
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from:         susan tomlinson <teddie@mindspring.com>
subject:      re: new tape tree- boston '90, charleston '89 and n. orleans '89
x-to:         kristen <kristen@u.arizona.edu>

kristen,

a late reply, but yes, we're interested!let us know (if you don't have
enough branches, we can do that, but figured you got plenty of replies for
that already!

peace,
susan and jocelyn

at 06:28 pm 1/15/97 -0700, kristen wrote:
>hi everyone,
>
>carolyn was super cool and has bestowed some cool boots upon me, to spread
>out to all.   they are special because they are one generation less than
>they would have been, as they are her originals.  i want to start a tree
>for:
>
>the cat's cradle, chapel hill nc 8-11-89
>and
>boston, mass. 4-18-90
>and
>new orleans 10-2-89
>
>in interest of time, i figured that it would be best to do all three at
>once.  right now, i need volunteers for branches, and i would love anyone
>interested in any of these tapes to email me, just letting me know if you
>are interested.  this way i know about how big this will be.
>
>take care, and hope to hear from you soon,
>
>kristen
>
>:)
>
>p.s.  if anyone who wants to be a branch wants to trade for these seeds,
>let me know, and i will send my boot list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>_"in the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's
>mind, there are few."
>"the truth is always near at hand, within your reach."  -suzuki
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ould
someone please tell me how to get my grubby little hands on the
levees that break in my heart cd? i think i missed that post...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i just got mine from rainy day distributors... the number is 1-800-636-6166.
it came to something like $25 with the shipping and handling. hope you like
it!

donna
college of engineering
rutgers university
new brunswick, nj

hey everybody,
i am attempting to refurbish my web page at school and have been looking for
some good, clear, color pics of aande. if anyone has a reeeeeeally good
website where i can find some, or has a few they'd like to send to me, email
me privately.
thanks,
julianna

meg:

>>> i'm just curious (and i'm not trying to start a war here) as to
how everyone can say *never forget*, and
*remember the six million*, while sitting back and remaining
blissfully ignorant of the atrocities occurring in bosnia? <<<

i agree whole-heartedly.  i was having sunday dinner at a friends'
house.  their son-in-law has been in bosnia and everyone was trashing
clinton.  while i am not the biggest bc fan, i do respect him sending
in us forces.  i was also kinda hoping that israel would have offered
military assistance.  think of it...israeli/jewish forces coming to
the aid of predominantly muslims.  would have really made an impact.

what do you think?

meg wrote:

<< okay, as a history major whose concentration is the holocaust
specifically, and ww2 generally, i resisted as long as i could before
jumping in here. and, strange as it may seem, i'm going to stay away from
the historical things for a minute. i'm just curious (and i'm not trying
to start a war here) as to how everyone can say *never forget*, and
*remember the six million*, while sitting back and remaining blissfully
ignorant of the atrocities occurring in bosnia? for your information, the
same ethnic cleansing practiced by the nazis in ww2 is reoccurring in
bosnia. croats are being placed in work camps and death camps by their
serbian counterparts, and vice versa. one image springs to mind...the face
of an emaciated man in ragged clothes peering out from behind barbed wire,
watching an armed guard march his watch. this image is dual...both from
the nazi holocaust, and from the new holocaust being perpetrated in
bosnia. it's very easy to say *never forget*, but a different thing
entirely to sit up and do something when it begins to happen anew. like i
said earlier...i'm not trying to start a fight, and if anyone feels like
flaming me, go ahead...i just wanted to remind everyone that history
repeats itself...but only if you let it.>>

yes! i've been sitting here thinking the same thing. while i don't think
you can really blame anyone for being 'blissfuly ignorant' since there isn't
much a lot of us can do about it, i do think that people are often blind to
the fact that the holocaust, unfortunately, was not it. "remember the 6
million."

all genocide is terrible, and the holocaust was a hideous tragedy, but at
least it is rememberd at all.  my ancestors came to this country to escape
the genocide of the armenians.  millions of armenians were systematicly
slaughtered for the purpose of ethnic clensing durring world war 1, but it is
almost never talked about.  the turkish gov't denies it to this day, and the
us hears they're lies as the truth.  hitler once said, sighting his true
inspiration "who, after all, remembers the anhilation of the armenians?"

those 6 million are rememberd by more and more as each day passes, but the
armenians are forgotten even faster.

-elizabeth

*******************
"i'll rock it to the end"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

did anyone download and save the video/audio clips that were so briefly on
the epicenter site?

mail just me, please, thanks

amy - bah - damy

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hola purplecitas!

okay, here's the deal, to all those who still haven't sent me blanks yet,
please do it soon. i want to get your requests done so i can give another
boot offer to the list. a bunch of you got your stuff already so disregard
this message.

oh yeah....people, puh-leeeez make sure you put enough postage on your sase!!!
i have gotten three sase's in the last week that do not have enough return
postage on them. i dont mean to complain or whatever, but i cant pay
everyone's postage...please...i want you to have your boots! also, for
those who are not familiar with boot dubbing/trade...please send type ii
tapes, cuz the typei tapes will sound like shit...

one more thing...people who requested "levees that break in my heart", i
hate to say this, but those won't be done till next week or so...my non-list
indigo friend kidnapped my cd and and is holding it hostage...but don't
worry, i'll get it back from her soon...thanks in advance for being patient! :p

alright, that's enough from me...back to your scheduled programming...

--susanna banana kwanita (but you may call me "paco!"...heehee)

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
-- amy ray

>> a heart in new york -- paul simon<<

as deb reiser added...

>>>paul simon did not write this song. benny gallagher and graham
lyle did. and if memory serves me correctly, it was recorded by art
garfunkel although simon performs it with him on the concert in
central park cd.<<<

is that why, if my memory serves me correctly, art mentions on the
cicp cd, something to the effect..."finally a song not written by
paul simon."

jealousy perhaps?

melissa

hey kind friends:

        the natives are gettin' restless in the lone star state, waitin' for
the map release date.  april 12th (amy's birthday) would be just great with
me!!!
        so far about 10 people have responded about a texas map release
party: mari from corpus christi, amber way up in abilene who is presently
without a ride anywhere, trant in austin and jen in houston are in
unconfirmed status (of course this whole thing is on unconfirmed status),
amy the seaaggie, darren at rice, tracy in beaumont, and i'm still trying to
coax in ryan from ok university, and kim from the uofl, and of course sara
if she can make it home from japan!  oh yeah and me too!
        that would be an alright party i'm sure, but i know there are a lot
more texans out there!!!!!!!!!! so common' and send in your reservation.  i
am particularly suprised that no one from dallas has responded.  i know
there are ig fans in the big d -- i saw them at the practice tour last august.
        until anyone else has a suggestion (btw did i mention i am taking
suggestions?) i am still offering to get a beach house on lovely galveston
isle (although it's not as lovely as say florida), but hey it's texas!!!
        here is a very rough shot itinerary:
        beach house from friday 6pm until sunday 6pm.  the house will
probably sleep no more than 10 in beds (plenty of floor space though!).
also, plenty of cheap motels nearby (approx. $35/night).  come whenever you
want subject to sleeping limitations.
        sat afternoon - most people will probably arrive:  meet, talk, jam,
walk on beach, swim, jam, drink <optional, but highly recommended>, laugh,
jam, sing, play, laugh, get silly -- eat bbq/seafood --  more drink, more
song, dance, revelry .... until cops come at 2:30am and tell us that *not
everyone on galveston island loves ig's as much as we do*, pass out --
sunday <repeat saturday events until you have to leave>.
        come one and all -- sign up now!!
sorry for ramblin on

thanks y'all~~
tony, the chickenman
houston, tx

she called into radiofreela -- a special which had leonard pellitier and the
dj was tom from rage against the machine -- no i dont have tapes but it is
supposedly online at www.radiofreela.com

mike r.

that 'musak' version was also heard by
myself and lover while in a grocery store
in boone, nc! we just went for it...we sang
the entire song loud and proud while
choosing chocolate-chip cookies and o.b.'s!
it is a fine, yet strange world...i must admit
that i prefer i.g. at home on better speakers,
but hey...it was a blast!

gotta love those blue women!

-mags

hi everyone,

just a note to let all and any australians out there know
that i now have the "on the road to austin" (video)tape, so
if anyone wants a copy or more information, email me and
we'll talk.

by the way, did anybody who was at newport get a photo
clear enough to see what kind of piano emily was playing?
or any clairvoyants out there who could provide the info
by any other method?

and just out of curiousity, i think i'd like to take a
census and find out just how many australians there really
are on this list. so. if you're an australian and on this
list, drop me a note, maybe we can do some sort of party
when "map" comes out, or even get some kind of network going
for the next time they tour out here (i at least am planning
on going to the shows in sydney, melbourne, canberra and
brisbane, maybe perth too).

okay, that's all. happy happy all,
sherlyn

ps - hingis def. spirlea 7-5 6-2, not that i was watching...
=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=
"never cry because you're lonely,
your love will always be around the bend.
and never cry because you think you can't make it,
you've made it this far, that's better than most..."
- happy rhodes

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 22:50:38 -0500
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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 21 jan 1997 - special issue

hi--just my very small (okay, maybe larger than very small) two pennies
that i felt a need to share:
i'm a lutheran christian who's about to go to seminary in june, and i
just got a biography of dietrich bonhoeffer for christmas.  my life was
not so much changed as strengthened, and the same for my faith.  for
those of you who don't know, he was a lutheran pastor during ww2 in
germany, and was almost aristocracy in class.  he resisted hitler using
tons of methods--all his family, resources, who were high up in
government--finally he was one of the people behind a plot to kill
hitler with a bomb which obviously backfired.  he was hanged 11 days
before the liberation of the prison he was in for "treason."
all this is just to say that a&e, by writing/adapting/singing tt,
completely made me think of him and how he fought, really really hard,
in spite of the fact that he could have been "free" from hitler, and
decided to help his jewish brothers and sisters so his conscience could
be truly free.
read his biography--completely incredible. you know that question that
you've probably all heard, "if you could go back in time and kill
hitler, would you?" dietrich answered it, "yes, and i believe that god
will forgive me."
what a man. excuse the space, but i deserve it. i usually lurk.
see y'all,
beth

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 22:46:06 -0600
reply-to:     iex@lonepeak.vii.com
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from:         "marian f. ashley" <iex@lonepeak.vii.com>
organization: international english exchange
subject:      dubbers needed for boot tree

to all that are interested,

thanks to carolyn, i am in possession of five excellent concert boots
from the '89-90 era. excellent quality with a many fun and interesting
happenings. i would like to offer the boots sometime in feb. i am
currently creating lovely liners for the boots themselves and gathering
a group of dedicated dubbers. there are about 4, maybe 5 that have said
they would like to be dubbers. are there others? if so, please e-mail
me.

thanks,
marian

oh, if you are thinking you might be interested in obtaining one of the
beautious boots, send me an e-mail (privately so as not to congest the
list with needless me too's.). the list of the boots are as follows:

duke university, durham, north carolina, 10/27/89 100 min

strange fire, make it easier, kid fears, crazy game, pushing the needle,
world falls, love's recovery, land of canaan, center stage, 10,000 wars,
blood and fire, closer to fine, prince of darkness, secure yourself,
southland in the springtime, white house blues, watch tower

the beacon theater, new york city, tues, 12/4/90, 100min

welcome me, world falls, love's recovery, hammer and a nail, crazy game,
kid fears, land of canaan, you and me of the 10,000 wars, blood and
fire, puching the needle, watershed, southland in the sprintime, hand me
downs, the girl with the weight of the world in her hands, closer to
fine, prince of darkness, all along the watchtower, daddy's all gone,
wnew interview + 1 song

birchmere, arlington, va, sunday, 11/25/90 90 min

welcome me, world falls, love's recovery, hammer and a nail (w/ mary
chapin-carpenter) crazy game, hand me downs, you and me of the 10,000
wars, watershed, southland in the springtime, play it again sam, romeo
and juliet, the moon and st. christopher (chapin-carpenter, amy, emily)
closer to fine, prince of darkness, strange fire

amy ray at singer/songwriter showcase, kristen hall, indigo girls at
memorial hall, chapel hill, north carolina, 10/89 90 min

october 28, 1989
memorial hall
chapel hill, north carolina
67:52
closer to fine, welcome me, love's recovery, pushing the needle too far,
lifeblood, center stage, southland in the springtime, world
falls, left me a fool, land of canaan, kid fears, crazy game, blood and
fire, summertime, all along the watchtower

?singer/songwriter showcase--have listened, but haven't written down the
set list yet. (it is an excellent boot!)

the diamond, toronto, canada, 7/29/89 90 min

91:36
closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, welcome me, center
stage, make it easier, land of canaan, kid fears, crazy game, blood
and fire, the girl with the weight of the world in her hands,
summertime, prince of darkness, strange fire, get together, sweet home
alabama/ blood and fire, all along the watchtower
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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 15:31:27 -0500
reply-to:     amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
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from:         amy lynn carpenter <carpen48@pilot.msu.edu>
subject:      re: more holocaust stuff (meghan)

i agree with the bosnia statement 100%. not only is the exact same thing
recurring, but *just* as many people are dying as did in ww2 and it's being
brushed under the carpet, again.

these same things (ethnic cleansing) are also happening in african countries,
like zambia. with the tutsi and hutu fighting as they are, it is again being
ignored.

the worst part is that this has all been going on for many many years.

so meghan, i don't think flames are appropriate for your message. it is a
reminder, and too often (especially americans) experience fatigue with these
fighting countries. ignorance is the scariest thing to me.

there isn't anything wrong with trying to make people aware, or bringing to
attention that these sorts of mass killings are happening in countries today,
and the numbers of people dying are just as high...
amy c

hi, i have that same screen saver, have had it for quite a few years, i also
bought it in a discount bin and have not seen it since. i also have a really
cool ellen d. saver, it comes on her cd taste this.
donna

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date:         tue, 21 jan 1997 23:07:41 -0800
reply-to:     the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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from:         the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
subject:      re: map release party/s. texas/reservation

>date: wed, 22 jan 1997 01:10:18
>to: starewell@juno.com (sonny bihl)
>from: the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: map release party/s. texas/reservation
>
>at 01:25 am 1/22/97 est, you wrote:
>>hey, i'm a new subscriber to the mailing list but,  i live in austin and
>>you can count me in. i've also got a few fellow fans who might like to
>>attend.  april 12 will be great for me. i saw ig not to long ago on a map
>>practice show and the show was great. so drop me a line give me
>>directions what i should bring besides my guitar and booze = )
>>thanx for the invite i'm pumped.
>>"...dont give that girl a gun.."
>>by the way my name is sonny and i'm a 21 yr old male.
>>
>cool sonny! greetings @:-}
>
>i got a response earlier from jaime at sw univ. in georgetown looking for a
ride to the possible event.  let me know if you can help (her?)?
>        also, i apologize in advance, but i'm going to send this to the
entire list as spam for the texas map release party ---  yeeeaaaaaa!!!!!!
>        also, can anyone provide a definitive release date?????????????
>i think i'll try rcam - ig fan email, unless someone else already has???
>
>stayin' up too late again!
>
>
>
>
i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx              g
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g       one world is enough for all of us - the police         s
o

just want to say hello and great job on the web page binky!  i've left the
cold climate of boston and am in warm (to me at least) san jose california
for a week... i feel so close to you all!  did y'all have a party last
saturday?  if you did, i'm sorry i missed it!  i could've pulled a "phil
collins at live aid" and gone to your list party, jump on a plane, and then
attend the boston list party!  would've been soooo cool!

sundara, would you like me to give sbm any special ;o) message for you? i
will be seeing her for the boston list party...if you want, you can stowaway
in my bag and join us! know you want to! glad to have you back! we missed
you!

well, won't waste anymore bandwidth...gonna be in seattle, wa at the end of
february...even closer to you pnw ig listers!

have a great day everyone! hope we can all meet someday!

joni-banoni-kins ;o)

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: more holocaust stuff...
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in-reply-to:  <pine.gso.3.95l.970121133746.17746e-100000@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu>

on tue, 21 jan 1997, meghan wrote:

> okay, as a history major whose concentration is the holocaust
> specifically, and ww2 generally, i resisted as long as i could before
> jumping in here. and, strange as it may seem, i'm going to stay away from
> the historical things for a minute. i'm just curious (and i'm not trying
> to start a war here) as to how everyone can say *never forget*, and
> *remember the six million*, while sitting back and remaining blissfully
> ignorant of the atrocities occurring in bosnia? for your information, the
> same ethnic cleansing practiced by the nazis in ww2 is reoccurring in
> bosnia. croats are being placed in work camps and death camps by their
> serbian counterparts, and vice versa. one image springs to mind...the face
> of an emaciated man in ragged clothes peering out from behind barbed wire,
> watching an armed guard march his watch. this image is dual...both from
> the nazi holocaust, and from the new holocaust being perpetrated in
> bosnia. it's very easy to say *never forget*, but a different thing
> entirely to sit up and do something when it begins to happen anew. like i
> said earlier...i'm not trying to start a fight, and if anyone feels like
> flaming me, go ahead...i just wanted to remind everyone that history
> repeats itself...but only if you let it.

may i point out that there were actually three sides in the bosnian civil
war:  the serbs (funded and sponsored, for a while, by the rump,
serb-dominated yugoslavia), the croats (funded by the republic of croatia)
and the bosnian government, dominated by serbs and croats who identified
themselves as muslims, although most (particularly in the cities) have let
it go.   the person who was seen peering through the barbed wire at the
concentration camp (at omarska) was a muslim, not a croat.   and yes,
while there were atrocities on both sides (including mass murders and
rapes), the majority were committed by soldiers on the serbian side,
including those at trnopolje (one of the serbs' 'rape camps') and omarska.
why this was, i've got no idea, but there is still said to be great
resentment among the serbs that they were subjected to turkish occupation
for so long (up until this century) which is why their government takes
this out on the bosnians and the muslim albanians of kosovo (in southern
serbia).   another reason was that one of the armies on the serbian side
was made up of people who were released from prison in serbia early on the
condition that they fight for this faction.   on the other hand, most of
the serbs in yugoslavia (serbia) are now said to be sick of the fighting
and want to end it, largely because, as is usually the case when economic
sanctions are imposed on a country, it is *they* who have suffered, not
the corrupt ex-communist government.

mat

okay, so i just read that amy and emily are heading to australia...so, i
wonder if there is any way to get them to hop on over to the japanese
mainland??? geez, i hate missing out. already missed the fall
tours...first in 8 years. it ain't that far from aussie land.

and does anyone know if one can write or call or email (www?) russell
carter mgmt. in regards to tours? i mean, it may seem silly or wishful
thinking, but it would be well worth it if i could persuade...

any info would be nice...any connections out there?

sara

                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

hello there everyone.  just thought i'd stop lurking for a moment to
comment on a few things.  first of all, regarding the discussion about amy
singing falsetto...i just wanted to mention that she also does this in "it
won't take long".  yes i agree, it sounds so alien, but it also sounds
pretty cool:)  she does a great job.  who woulda thunk?;)
secondly, i just wanted to say that for those of you that haven't yet
heard _honor_, get out there and buy one!  it's great, except (imo) for
the song by soul asylum.  i just love "blood quantum". :)

okay, 'nuff said. back to lurking.

pax,
shannon (yamaha)

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x-to:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>

**snip long (intersting..but not so relevant to this post) included text******

actually, of more recent memory and probably much more import was the
conduct of both sides during world war ii.  the muslims and some croats
sided with the germans in world war 2, and the bloodshed between the etnic
groups in bosnia was fierce and widespread.  the germans even formed units
of "volunteers" (how voluntarily this really was is open to question) from
the muslim and croat populations (some served as security formations in
yugoslavia during the german occupation..others on the russian front).  lest
everything be seen through the light of todays atrocities .. some of these
people even served in the ss (definately volunteer there).  for the most
part the serbs were the core of the resistance movement..that is where
tito's support came from and resulted in his acendency to power after the
war.  in no way do i condone or accept *any of* the actions by the serbian
government and serbian paramilitary forces.   i do find it historically
ironic (and tragic) that the two existing threads (the holocaust and bosnia)
meet and rejoin  50+ years ago and again today.

sigh...another historian

>the person who was seen peering through the barbed wire at the
>concentration camp (at omarska) was a muslim, not a croat.   and yes,
>while there were atrocities on both sides (including mass murders and
>rapes), the majority were committed by soldiers on the serbian side,
>including those at trnopolje (one of the serbs' 'rape camps') and omarska.
>why this was, i've got no idea, but there is still said to be great
>resentment among the serbs that they were subjected to turkish occupation
>for so long (up until this century) which is why their government takes
>this out on the bosnians and the muslim albanians of kosovo (in southern
>serbia).   another reason was that one of the armies on the serbian side
>was made up of people who were released from prison in serbia early on the
>condition that they fight for this faction.   on the other hand, most of
>the serbs in yugoslavia (serbia) are now said to be sick of the fighting
>and want to end it, largely because, as is usually the case when economic
>sanctions are imposed on a country, it is *they* who have suffered, not
>the corrupt ex-communist government.
>
>mat
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i thought it was time for a new trivia question...

there are three parts to the question:

what is the significance of the album title, 4.5? what was the original
title? why was the original name changed?

repsond through private e-mail, & i'll post the results in a few days.
partial credit will be given, & extra points will be given for
creativity... :)

andi

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well, i'm finally back from vacation and i just wanted to be sure that
everyone who sent me tapes got them back. if you sent me a tape and haven't
gotten it yet (and you're probably pretty ticked) please e-mail me. we'll
try to figure out what happened.

thanks!

joanne

"my fellow americans, when i was young i wanted to be a baseball. but now
we must move forward, not backward, upward, not forward, and always
twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom!"
- alien possesed bill clinton on the simpsons

hey ya'll,

i'm new to this list and i want to get my bootleg collection started.
currently, i have none! help! :-) i'll take any i can get!

in the famous words of a and e:

"thanks ya'll"

green grasshopper (matt)

hi folks,

i forgot to ask this yesterday - is anybody else out there
from australasia or europe subscribed to the official fan
club mailing list? did you get the last mailing sent out?
i'm still hoping mine will show up in the mail but as time
passes it seems less likely. argh.

also, did anybody ever get jcs video converted to pal? i
may see about doing so (greg, 'sat still cool?) if not and
maybe we can offer a tree for the pal folks on the list or
something.

happy happy everyone,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=
"never cry because you're lonely,
your love will always be around the bend.
and never cry because you think you can't make it,
you've made it this far, that's better than most..."
- happy rhodes

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date:         wed, 22 jan 1997 21:19:36 est
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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subject:      live version of "airplane" needed

my life will not be complete until i have a live version of this song, so if
you can make my life complete, please do so.
another plea from kirsten

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kirsten chevalier kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu | often in error, never in doubt
"but life don't clickety clack down a straight line track / it comes together
and it comes apart."--ferron | http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/

#1--sundara if you're out there write me!
#2--i was a dummy yesterday and tried to say it was 85 days till
graduation, but i left out the entire month of april in my calculations,
so now it's really 114. sigh...oh well.

;) marianne

t minus 114 days to graduation!!!

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can someone please help me?

i've been trying to unsubscribe to this list for about 2 months -
don't get me wrong, i enjoy the posts, it's just my mail provider
isn't too happy about the number of them! i've tried sending the
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but neither work. can someone please help me?

slan,

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is it just me or does anyone else see a quaint similarity between the i have
a dream and the world falls quotes below?:

        this is our hope.  this is the faith with which i return to the
south.  with this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of
despair a stone of hope.  with this faith we will be able to transform the
jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood.
with this faith we will we able to work together, to pray together, to
struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together,
knowing that we will be free one day.
        >mlk "i have a dream" speech aug. 28, 1963<

        i'm coming home with a stone strapped onto my back
        i'm coming come with a burning hope of turning all my blues to black
        i'm looking for a sacred hand to carve into my stone
        a ghost of comfort, angel's breath, to keep this life inside my chest
        this world falls on me.....

btw does anyone know what the phrase "turning all my blues to black" means?

my theory is that black means like a "void or nullification" of the blues
"troubles or problems" faced. so to me, that means coming home to try and
solve burning problems or difficulties encountered. (i know world falls is
primarliy about amy's fear of "the edge of death", but there are always
subtle influences working as well.)

i'd appreciate any private responses on this stuff..

thanks y'all~~

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx              g
n                                                              i
d       i don't want to bring a sour note, but we can all sink r
i       or we all float, cause we're all in the same big boat, l
g       one world is enough for all of us - the police         s
o

hi y'all,

this is another happy nigc party post!! the ny/nj/pa and anyone else
who wants to come is set for:

<color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>saturday, march 15 beginning at 4
pm

</color>it'll be lots 'o fun and anybody who's interested just email me
for directions, info or other questions.

take it easy and hope to see a bunch of you in march!!

jen

ps kim (suny-sb) and alec (pipeline)...my server won't send the general
group message to you...email me!!

january 21
paula.loos@uc.edu (paula loos)
happy birthday, paula!!
how long til my soul gets it right
can any human being ever reach that highest light...

january 23
gsajaf@noctrl.edu (tritessa)
happy 20th, jen!!
first you kiss me like a lover
then you sting me like a viper...

llax@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (leslie lax)
happy 19th, leslie!!
but you could only feed upon the things that feed a fire
waiting to see if i'd burn...

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg

i really would like to get some boots of the indigo girls, however i
have nothing to offer. would anyone be interested in helping out a
fellow ig friend?? :)

ang potteiger

hello all,
   thanks to a fellow listee i recently got copies of blue food and color me
grey, wow it all i can say.  amy's voice was so haunting solo.  i am somewhat
confused though, i know e and a played together in high school (there's that
corny little song on 1200 curfews), and i know they became the indigo girls
in college, but when was amy's solo attempt?  color me grey is dated 1982,
and nashville is on it.  did she try the nashville scene after high school,
then went to college when she gave up?
   my next question is why didn't any of the songs on cmg an bf (besides
nashville and crazy game) every make it on later albums?  do they still
prefrom any of there old songs?

thank,
jeremy

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from:         "marian f. ashley" <iex@lonepeak.vii.com>
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subject:      re: dubbers needed/boot offer in feb

to the list and other interested parties,

i am overwhelmed at the outpouring of e-mail and the desire to help
spread the joy of concert boots. thanks to everyone to wrote to let me
know that they were interested in receiving the boots and a great big
thank you for those of you that have time to offer your help.

it looks like

1.      there is interest in the lovely boot list i offered in feb of the fab
5 concerts in '89-90
        therefore, i shall proceed with designing fab liners for more than
myself. (most compelling
        reason to collect boots other than the obvious listening pleasure, is
to create cool covers. i
        have been testing out my creative abilities and i have come to believe
that what the
         kindergarten teachers said all along is true--i am artistically
challenged. so i use ig boots to
         help me overcome this tragic fate.)

2.      i am most grateful to all those that offered to become a part of my
very first boot tree. (i'm so
        excited, i can't stand it.) i have yet to get back with all the
boot-dub-people, i hope to let
        the lucky ones know within the next couple of days. thanks for all the
many generous
        offers to help.

more info to come.

marian

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hey i am a new subscriber to the list. but i wanted to say hi. if anyone
can help me with bootlegs, or anything else please send me mail. also i
hope to see a lot of people at the chickenman's release party. if anyone
needs a ride, let me know i live in austin,tx.
jenny at southwestern-- i can probably give you a ride drop me a
line.
"..don't give that girl a gun.."

---sunchips
"..is it enough to say that i want youto keep it close to me
me me is all i think think about what ever word you say
i mean anything..." 7m3

hi, all,

i saw that joan cyr is in town from boston, and i thought it might be
a good time for a bay area get-together. since the notice would be so
short, it'd probably be best to meet at a cafe instead of trying to
get a party together at someeone's home. saturday lunch or dinner
perhaps, if enough people speak up in the next day or so?

tom

---
tomcat ____     i thought i'd seen someone who seemed at last
       \ _/__   to know the truth
        \\  /   i was mistaken
          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on tue, 21 jan 1997, fiachra bonner wrote:

> can someone please help me?
>
> i've been trying to unsubscribe to this list for about 2 months -
> don't get me wrong, i enjoy the posts, it's just my mail provider
> isn't too happy about the number of them! i've tried sending the
> following messages to listserv@netspace.org
>
> unsubscribe indigo-girls
>
> and
>
> signoff indigo-girls
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try using lowercase instead of uppercase. a lot of these unix-based
systems are case-sensitive, and so won't recognise the commands you gave
it.

mat

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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: amy's solo days
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in-reply-to:  <970122201152_173860803@emout07.mail.aol.com>

on thu, 23 jan 1997, jeremy ames wrote:

> hello all,
>    thanks to a fellow listee i recently got copies of blue food and color me
> grey, wow it all i can say.  amy's voice was so haunting solo.  i am somewhat
> confused though, i know e and a played together in high school (there's that
> corny little song on 1200 curfews), and i know they became the indigo girls
> in college, but when was amy's solo attempt?  color me grey is dated 1982,
> and nashville is on it.  did she try the nashville scene after high school,
> then went to college when she gave up?

what i've read is that the song is based on amy's experiences actually
studying in nashville, at vanderbildt university, rather than playing
nashville clubs.   she describes the place as 'not exactly a hotbed of
liberalism' - in fact it's one of the bastions of the religious right,
which from amy's point of view would be a definite disadvantage.   but
amy has also said that many of the things she says about nashville in that
song could also be said about atlanta.   (emily was studying at tulane
university in new orleans at the time, and had very similar experiences.)

mat

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              "indigo jo" at jan 23, 97 11:37 am

the listserv program is case-insensitive, actually (a holdover from the old
ibm mainframes on which it was first used) so that's not the problem.

anyone who has trouble unsubscribing should probably just contact jude the list-
maintainer-goddess and ask her to remove you by hand. another thing to check is
that you're unsubscribing from the same email address that you subscribed from.
kirsten

"subscribe indigo-girls"

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hey y'all.. got this from radar rose today.. they are comin' south this
spring!!

>website:  http://www.mindspring.com/~water/rose.html
>radarose@aol.com
>
>tour schedule:
>
>jan. 25  gabby's, bluefield, va
feb. 8-9  in the studio!
>feb. 13  moondance, richmond, va
feb. 15  private party
feb.. 21  confeddys, roanoke
feb. 22   full moon, roanoke
>mar. 1    ghost of hollywood, roanoke, va
mar 7     coffee pot roanoke
mar. 8   gabby's bluefield
>mar. 14  (t) down home, johnson city, tn
mar. 21    confeddy's, roanoke
>mar. 22   south main cafe, blacksburg, va
>mar. 27   moondance, richmond, va
april. 4    full moon, roanoke
>apr. 5   coffee pot, roanoke, va
>apr. 10  blues, boone, nc (t)
>apr. 11  first ave. club, hickory, nc
>apr. 12-13  dogwood festival, atlanta, ga
>apr. 16    al who's place, columbus, ga
>apr. 17  lil ireland's, auburn, al
>apr. 18-19  florida dates
>apr. 25  riverfest, columbus, ga
>apr. 26  the loft, columbus, ga
>may 3   ghost of hollywood, roanoke, va
may 9    full moon, roanoke
>may 10  gabby's, bluefield, wv
may 15  confeddy's, roanoke
>may 17  south main cafe, blacksburg, va
>june 7  ghost of hollywood, roanoke, va
>june 14  (t) city stages, birmingham, al
june 19   james center, richmond, va
june 28   confeddy's, roanoke
july 4    confeddy's roanoke
july 6    freedomfest '97-highland park, roanoke, va
oct. 11-12  columbus jam, columbus, ga
>
>

>
>thanks
>jane

"...courage can erase the pain of all the times..."
-kristen hall

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subject:      igc: newsgroup question

        i know, i know... i should remember this... but what is the
newsgroup for ig called again???  i'm playing around with my 'puter and
thought i'd try again the newsgroup concept.  however, i can't seem to
locate the main one i want to try again.  thanks.

tracy

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subject:      tab to everybody's waiting (for someone to come home),
              by adam schneider

everybody's waiting (for someone to come home)
(by amy ray)
----------------------------------------------
[each chord is about half a measure; d11=554030]

intro:

[this is the exact pattern for the first four measures; it varies some
through the song. sometimes there's a quick hammer-on from 0 to 2 on
the a string right before a low e at the beginning of em measures.]

em c(9) d11 em c(9) d11
e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
g ----0-----0-----|--0-----0-----0-|--0-----0-------|--0-----0-----0-|
d --2---2-----2---|----0-----4-----|----2-----2---0-|----0-----4-----|
a 2-------------0-|3-----5-----5---|2-----2-----2---|3-----5-----5---|
e --------0-------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

em            em            c             d11       em  em  c  d11
  through the wind and the rain i hear my mother's cry
    em   em                c        d11                em      em      c d11
she says, i know my baby's out there, i just couldn't bear to ask her why
em         em            c    d11   em             em        c   d11
  from my womb into the world, lord, i wish the child would call
em             em            c     d11    em       em      c   d11
  you know i'm needing some company, she makes my life so full
d11    d11         c   c   d11             d11       c      c
       take my advice,       go ahead and live your own life
d11     d11     d11 [tacet]                em   em   c   d11
  everybody's waiting for someone to come home

like the pharaoh waits for the sand
this world is burning with the tension of human hands
waiting to be cleansed, waiting for their ace of spades
they say, i sure hope he's coming 'cause i feel like i've just been saved
take my advice, go ahead and live while you're alive
and everybody's waiting for someone to come home

[guitar solo: em em c(9) d11 ]

em  em       c       c         d11   d11   d11   d11    em
    come to me and cleanse my soul  (i'm free,   i'm free)
em    c       c      d11   d11         d11     d11    em
only with you am i whole   (can't you see that i am me)
em       c       c      d11    d11      d11     d11     em   em  c  d11
i'll be waiting by the window (i'll be heading for the door)

i was driving down highway 85, yeah
had to pull off the road just to hear my radio coming in clearer
lord, this life's so full [???], i said, why do we ask for more?
why we waitin' for the man to come, we forgot what he's comin' for
won't you take my advice, go ahead and live while you're alive
and everybody's waiting for someone to come home

em  em       c      d11     em    em  c  d11  [etc...]
   (i'll be waiting by the window)
and everybody's waiting for someone to come home
(i'll be waiting by the window)
everybody's waiting for someone to come home
    em    em  c  d11  em
come home

tab:

[i'm never exactly sure if i have the right frets for the notes when i
figure out a guitar solo. so, as usual, the _notes_ are right, but emily
might play the notes on different strings than i've written down.]

/ and \ are slides up and down.
t=10; e=11; w=12; f=14.
e~~~~ means bend up a half step (from f# to g), then back down to f#.
the notes in parentheses (7,8,9) are softer.
"45" and "ew" are quick hammer-ons; "ewe" is a quick hammer-on followed
by a quick pull-off.

lead guitar intro:

e ----------------|----------------|----------------|------------------|
b ----------------|----------------|----------------|------------------|
g ---0-/4-4--2--2/|7-----7/9-9/e-e-|e~~~~-9---e-e-e-|e~~~~-9\(7)-7\5-5-|
d /5--------------|----------------|----------------|------------------|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|------------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----------------|------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e ------------------|----------------|----------0-----|----------------|
b ----------3-------|----------------|------8----(8)--|----t---\-8-----|
g 45-45-2-4---4-5-2-|4-0-2---0-------|----9---9----(9)|----------------|
d ------------------|------4---4-5\2-|----------------|----------------|
a ------------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
e ------------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e ----------0-----|----------------|
b ------8-----8---|----t-----8-----|
g ----9---9-----9-|--9-------------|
d ----------------|----------------|
a ----------------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

guitar solo:

e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
g ---0-/4-4--2--2/|7-----7/9-9/e-e-|e~~~~-9---e-e-e-|e~~~~-9---7---5-|
d /5--------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e ------------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ------------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
g 45-4---7-5-45-4-2-|5---4---0-------|--------------0-|----------------|
d ------------------|--4---2---2-4-4-|--4-2-4-2-4-5---|5/7-7--/9-------|
a ------------------|----------------|3---------------|----------------|
e ------------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e -----------------|------------------|------------------|----------------|
b ----------8------|t-----------------|--------------t---|8---7-----------|
g ----5-7/9-----9/e|----e-e-ew-w---w/f|f-w---ewe-9-e---e-|--9---9---------|
d -----------------|------------------|------------------|----------------|
a -----------------|------------------|------------------|----------------|
e -----------------|------------------|------------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b 8---------------|t-t--/w-w-------|----------------|-/5------/8-----|
g --9/e-e-----w---|----------------|------------0-2/|4---------------|
d ----------------|-----------w\\\\|------0-2-4-----|----------------|
a ----------------|----------------|0-2-3-----------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

e ----------0-----|----------------|----------0-----|----------------|
b ------8-----8---|----t-----8-----|------8-----8---|----t-----8-----|
g ----9---9-----9-|--9-------------|----9---9-----9-|--9-------------|
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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subject:      ig trivia results... (long)

this is going to be very long, since i got so many responses...

okay, so i'm a fool, & i asked a trivia question that's in the faq.
(thanks to jen & dwayne for pointing that one out.) so that means that
every good listee should have read the faq & would have known the answer.
but that was not the case. :)

the question was:

what is the significance of the album title, 4.5? what was the original
title? why was the original name changed?

the answer is, according to the faq:

the album was originally going to contain material from the november
1994 concerts at shepherd's bush empire in london.  the band for
these shows consisted of amy, emily, jerry marotta and sara lee; gail
ann dorsey also sat in on a few songs.  the title was meant to
represent the number of band members.  because gail hadn't played
through the entire show, the album's working title was "four and a
half".  graphically it was decided that "4.5" looked better so that
became the title, even though no material from the concerts was used
on the album in the end.

from a 1995 interview with kirsti reeve, which is found on the lifeblood
webpage:

k: ok... let's start with the album.. what does the title mean?
4.5 what?

a: you know

e: it's funny now...

a: it's funny, coz when we did the live at the bbc thing we
had four people in our band plus we had gail sitting in, which
was half a person. and we were thinking we were going to use
some of that on this cd, so we called it 4.5.

k: ok

a: but we didn't use any of it on the cd, so it doesn't make
any sense. it's just a number.

e: we originally called it four and a half, but they thought with
the graphics it'd look better as 4.5, so.. michael, the artist
decided that..

people who got every part right (including naming all 4.5 band members
correctly):
abigail, deb, dwayne, and jen

people who got most, some, or close to none of the parts right:
gwen, nick, david, greta, jennifer, sue, kristen, nicole, pj, and kellie

people who win in the creativity category:
greta, anna

people who didn't even attempt to answer the question but i think are cool
anyway:
corinne, jan (my bf), susan b. marine, audrey, sundara, anna h., mic, &
ummmm...some other people i can't remember right now. (well, actually, i
think everyone on the list is pretty damn cool! :)

abigail gets the award for the fastest response.

i thought some people's answers were pretty good, so here are some snips
from responses...

abigail:
now this whole bit has always seemed silly to me. apparently publicists
didn't think 4 1/2 would sell, and apparently 4.5 is more aesthetically
pleasing to customers, so they changed it. i personally think 4 1/2 looks
much better, but, sigh it was the album that never officailly was anyway so
i guess it's a rather "trivial" point to argue. ;)

gwen:
it is all very sordid and confusing. maybe they
should have just called it "some folks in our basement" or something.

dwayne:
of course, my favorite answer would have be that the cd was called 4.5
because it is the sum of the ratios of emily:amy songs on the epic cds (4/5
4/6 5/6 6/6 6/5).

marianne:
okay, i'm going for creativity here, because i know it has something to do
with the number of band members playing with a&e but i can't figure out
how they had half of a band member, so i'll say they originally had four
band members, plus, this person who only halfway exists in our 3
dimensional world, and the rest of them exists in another plane, maybe the
4th dimension or something, which is odd, but she played a
really mean set of drums, so they figured, what the heck?
originally the album was called 4.11111111.... which is actually how much
of the person exists in our dimension, but they decided it would be too
hard to explain that to most people so they called it 4.5 as a joke.

david:
being a graphic design major, i would have to agree with michael the
artist. 4.5 sounds and looks much better than four and a half,

greta:
personally, i'd be a bit ticked if i was referred to as a fraction in an
album title, but i guess she didn't mind...:)

anna:
> what is the significance of the album title, 4.5?

it's the average number of times per song that amy says "baby".

> what was the original title?

4.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666......

> why was the original name changed?

although it was more accurate, it was a little ridiculous and would only be
appreciated by mathematicians and statisticians, and we know how few of those
people are indigo girls fans!

;)

sue:
original title was "four and a half" i think...but they changed it cuz
"4.5" cuz it looked way way way cooler than "four and a half"

kristen:
4.5 stands for amy, emily, jerry and sara, and .5 for jane. it was
originally 5 but then jane said that she was a half.

whew...that was too much! i think i'll ask a harder question next time... :)

andi

sorry if everyone recieved this already, but i sent it a few hours ago and i
haven't seen it.

hey everyone,

i know that there are alot of you out there that know alot about this
topic. i am going to start taking guitar lessons and i need to know what to
look for when i go shopping for one. what is a good price, good kind? i
know absolutely nothing about guitars so i could use all the help i can get.
thanks!

stacey

obeekaybee....i sent you the wrong address but i can't find your e-mail
address that i had written down earlier *bites lip* sorry....so i'm
sending this to the list.......
i can be found at http://tvchat.ultimatetv.com/tvchat/
then you sign up and put in your password and then you go to the xena
fan channel....

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[part 1]
1. history / biography
2. where to find information about indigo girls
3. questions about amy and emily
4. general questions about indigo girls' music

[part 2]
5. discography related questions
6. questions about album covers and titles
7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"

[part 3]
11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
12. other song related questions
13. recent indigo girls news
14. miscellaneous questions
15. acknowledgements

1. history / biography
======================

emily saliers was born in new haven, connecticut on july 22nd, 1963.
the following year, her future musical partner amy ray was born in
atlanta, on april 12th, 1964.  when emily was in sixth grade, her
family moved to decatur, georgia.  she was enrolled in laurel ridge
elementary school where amy was attending fifth grade.  when amy and
emily were both in high school, they began playing together under the
names "saliers and ray" and "the b-band".  their first rehearsals
were for a school talent show.  later the two progressed to playing
open mike nights at local bars, despite being underage.  in 1981, the
b-band recorded a tape called "tuesday's children" in amy's basement.
the tape consisted mostly of cover songs, with an additional original
song from each of them.  in 1982 amy recorded "color me grey", a
solo tape consisting of entirely original material.

when emily graduated from high school she enrolled at tulane
university in new orleans, majoring in english.  amy moved to
nashville a year later to study english and religion at vanderbilt
university.  dissatisfied with life away at school, both emily and
amy moved back to atlanta to attend emory university in 1984, and the
two resumed playing together regularly.  in 1985 they adopted the
name "indigo girls".  amy picked the word "indigo" out of the
dictionary because she thought it sounded "cool".  that same year,
indigo girls made their recording debut with an independently
released 7" single "crazy game"/"everyone's waiting (for someone to
come home)", and a mostly-live cassette called "blue food".  at
around the same time, amy released an updated version of "color me
grey", including an early version of her song "nashville".

in 1986, indigo girls released a self-titled six-track ep which was
produced by frank french and engineered by kristen hall.  local
atlanta musicians who contributed to the record included dede vogt,
michelle malone and caroline aiken.  at around this time, amy and
emily met their future manager russell carter who told them that he
didn't see indigo girls getting a record deal because their songs
were "immature".  nevertheless, the next year amy and emily went on
to record their first full length album "strange fire" and took
russell on as manager soon after.

indigo girls were signed to epic records in 1988.  "indigo girls",
their first major-label album, was released in february 1989.  guest
artists on the album included rem, hothouse flowers and luka bloom.
"closer to fine", the first single, peaked at #52 on the billboard
chart.  the album reached as high as #22, remained in the chart for
35 weeks, and was certified gold in september of 1989.  "strange
fire" was re-released by epic in november 1989 with a rearranged
track listing.  an early version of "blood and fire" and emily's
"high horse" were dropped, and the two songs were replaced by a cover
of the youngbloods' "get together".  also that year, "indigo girls"
won a grammy award in the category "best contemporary folk
recording".  the duo was also nominated for a grammy award in the
category "best new artist".

"live at the uptown lounge", a 60-minute concert/interview video
filmed in athens, georgia, was released in january 1990.
"nomads*indians*saints", indigo girls' second epic album, was
released that september.  the album featured guest appearances by
mary chapin carpenter, bassist sara lee and ellen james society, an
atlanta rock band.  the first single from the album, "hammer and a
nail", was nominated for a grammy award in the category "best
contemporary folk recording".  during that year, amy also started her
own independent record label, daemon records.

"back on the bus, y'all", an eight-song ep recorded live in concert
at notre dame university, west georgia college and the uptown lounge,
was released in june 1991 and was nominated for a grammy award in the
category "best contemporary folk album". in december 1991,
"nomads*indians*saints" was certified gold, and "indigo girls" was
certified platinum, almost three years after its release.

"rites of passage" was released in may 1992.  the album debuted at
#22 on the billboard album chart.  that september it was certified
gold after spending twelve weeks on the chart.  among the guest
artists on "rites of passage" were jackson browne, david crosby,
drummer jerry marotta, and the roche sisters.

amy and emily went into the studio in november 1993 to begin
recording "swamp ophelia".  in january 1994, the soundtrack to the
movie "philadelphia" was released, including indigo girls' cover of
danny whitten's "i don't wanna talk about it".  in march indigo girls
began filming for the movie "boys on the side" which starred whoopi
goldberg, mary louise parker and drew barrymore.  "swamp ophelia",
which featured appearances by jane siberry, cellist jane scarpantoni,
and amy's father larry ray, was released in may of 1994.  it debuted
at #9 on the billboard album chart and six weeks later, in june, was
certified gold.  later that year, "swamp ophelia" was also nominated
for a grammy award in the category "best contemporary folk
recording".  amy and emily also took part that year in an
atlanta-based revival of andrew lloyd webber's musical "jesus christ
superstar" with emily playing mary magdalene and amy taking the part
of jesus.

the "best of" album "4.5" was released outside the us in july 1995.
in october of that year, the live album "1200 curfews" was released.
the album featured choice performances selected from concert tapes by
amy and emily themselves, and some rarer material such as "back
together again" from the early b-band tape. the video compilation
"watershed" was released at the same time. "watershed" contained
all the song videos which had been made up to that point, plus
additional exclusive concert, interview and home video footage.

after having toured for more than a year to support "swamp ophelia"
and the honor the earth campaign, amy and emily decided to take a
break and spend mid-1995 to mid-1996 off the road.  during this time
indigo girls made only infrequent live appearances such as at the
newport folk festival in august 1995, new orleans jazz festival in
may 1996, and at gay pride in atlanta in june 1996.  the 1996 newport
folk festival saw the start of a 3-week "practice tour".  indigo
girls went into the studio in september to begin pre-production on
their new album "map".  also during september 1996, "swamp ophelia"
was certified platinum.  around november 1996, both "strange fire"
and "1200 curfews" were certified gold.

as of this moment, indigo girls are recording "map" in atlanta,
austin and nashville. the new album will hopefully be ready for
release by around march 1997.

2. where to find information about indigo girls
===============================================

- is there an address where i can write to the indigo girls, or an
official fan club or mailing list?

to write to amy or emily, or to join the indigo girls fan club, write
to:     indigo girls
        c/o russell carter management
        315 west ponce de leon avenue
        suite 755
        decatur
        georgia usa 30030

the fan club sends out newsletters containing merchandise
information, tour schedules and other official information several
times a year.

- where can i find information about indigo girls on the internet?

there are indigo girls resources of many types on the internet.
here are a few of them:
    - indigo girls mailing list: indigo-girls@netspace.org
        to subscribe, send a message to listserv@netspace.org with
        "subscribe indigo-girls" in the body of the message.
    - indigo girls usenet newsgroup: alt.music.indigo-girls
    - lifeblood www site: http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood
    - epic records indigo girls site:
        http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epiccenter/docs
                                        /artistupdate.qry?artistid=83
    - indigo girls discography:
        http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists
                                          /discographies/indigo_girls

more links can be found by using one of the many search engines
available on the www such as lycos (http://www.lycos.com) or yahoo
(http://www.yahoo.com).

3. questions about amy and emily
================================

- when were amy and emily born?

amy - 12 april 1964;
emily - 22 july 1963.

- what are amy and emily's middle names?

amy's middle name is elizabeth; emily's is ann.

- do amy and emily have brothers and sisters?

both amy and emily come from four-children families. amy has two
older sisters and a younger brother; emily is the second-eldest of
four girls.

- are amy and emily christian?

when asked about their religious beliefs in a 1990 interview in the
cooper point journal, school paper of evergreen state college, amy
said, "we were brought up methodist.  i was a religion major and
emily's dad is a methodist minister and a theology professor.  but we
don't consider our songs geared toward christianity.  we consider
them geared toward a spirituality that no matter what faith you have,
you can relate to them.  we don't want to alienate anybody because we
don't believe in seeing specifically through one faith.  so it plays
a big part in our music but not in the way that some christians would
want it to play."

- are amy and emily gay? have they been involved with each other?

amy and emily are both openly gay although in the past they have not
always been identified as such by the mainstream media.

in the 1996 newport folk festival program amy states, "i always think
of [emily] as the perfect best friend. i guess one of the reasons
we've always been like this is that we've always had the same kind of
relationship. the nature of it never changed - we never had a sexual
encounter - we never had a real conflict - we were always just
completely friends."

- what does amy's tattoo mean?

amy explained the tattoo in "fashion" magazine (circa 1989): "this is
spiritual, and it's blue for charity; this is compassion; this is
intellectual grounding; this is the love of the earth; this is the
center of the soul..."

niki pantelias, founder of the original indigo girls mailing list,
also reported in a november 1990 posting to the list that amy had
said that the tattoo was the sioux indian symbol for love inside a
hand, and "basically it means love".

- who are amy and emily's musical influences?

amy has been influenced by artists such as the replacements, husker
du and neil young; emily has stated that her biggest songwriting
influence was joni mitchell and that her literary inspirations
include the writings of virginia woolf. both amy and emily have
said they have been influenced by bob dylan and also profess
admiration for jane siberry and ferron. in addition, they both enjoy
reading the works of william faulkner.

4. general questions about indigo girls' music
==============================================

- who is in the indigo girls touring band?

amy and emily often tour as a duo, but also perform with a backing
band.  for the past two years the steady support crew for indigo
girls has been:
    - sara lee - bass, pennywhistle, vocals
    - jerry marotta - percussion, pennywhistle, saxophone, vocals

other guests who have appeared on occasion include:
    - caroline aiken - guitar, vocals
    - gail ann dorsey - vocals
    - sheila doyle of big fish ensemble - violin
    - sandy garfinkle - harmonica, vocals
    - kristen hall - guitar, vocals
    - michael lorant of big fish ensemble - percussion, vocals,
        saxophone
    - michelle malone - mandolin, electric guitar, vocals
    - barbara marino - saxophone
    - scarlet rivera - violin
    - jane scarpantoni - cello, pennywhistle

- what other music appears in the background of indigo girls
songs?

in addition to their own unique harmonies, indigo girls have also
integrated other tunes into their music.  these include:
    - "mary had a little lamb" at the beginning of the guitar solo in
        "center stage", also hummed softly as amy sings "a joker's
        dance before the king"
    - a hymn, "let us break bread", at the end of "hammer and a nail"
    - "twinkle twinkle little star" in "world falls", as amy sings
        "i'm laughing..."
    - beethoven's "ode to joy", as part of the guitar solo in "cedar
        tree"

other music which amy and emily have incorporated into their songs
include a chopin nocturne at the end of "this train revised" and the
native american hymn emily sings at the end of "jonas and ezekial".

- have amy and emily ever written any songs together, or with other
people?

amy and emily generally write separately and then collaborate on the
harmonies and instrumental arrangements of their songs.  however,
there are a few songs that they've written together:
    - "i don't know your name" from "blue food" (1985)
    - "if you live like that" from "blue food" (1985)
    - "blood quantum" from "honor1: a benefit for the honor the
        earth campaign" (1996)

songs that they have written with other people include:
    - "i don't wanna know" by amy and michelle malone
    - "i'll give you my skin" from "tame yourself" (1991), by amy,
        emily and michael stipe
    - "1 2 3" by amy and the members of ellen james society

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[part 2]
5. discography related questions
6. questions about album covers and titles
7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"

5. discography related questions
================================

- what songs have been released as singles?

to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
commercially available single in the us is "power of two". however,
various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
for more details.

- what songs have been made into videos, and where can i get them?

so far indigo girls have made nine commercial song videos.  these
are:
    - "closer to fine" (1989)
    - "get together" (1989)
    - "hammer and a nail" (1990)
    - "joking" (1992)
    - "galileo" (1992)
    - "touch me fall" (1994)
    - "least complicated" (1994)
    - "power of two" (1995)
    - "bury my heart at wounded knee" (1995)

all these videos, except the video for "bury my heart at wounded
knee", can be found on the video compilation "watershed", available
from sony music video.

- what songs have indigo girls covered? where do they appear?

covers available on commercially available items, excluding the
albums, include:
    - "american tune" by paul simon, on "turn of the decade:
        1989-1990 ben & jerry's newport folk festival" (1991)
    - "cortez the killer" by neil young (performed with band de
        soleil), on band de soleil's album "redemption dream"
        (european version only) (1995)
    - "don't think twice, it's alright" by bob dylan (performed with
        joan baez), on joan baez's album "ring them bells" (1995);
    - "free of hope" by vic chesnutt, on "sweet relief ii: gravity of
        the situation" (1996)
    - "i don't wanna talk about it" by danny whitten, on
        "philadelphia: music from the motion picture" (1993);
    - "it won't take long" by ferron, on "spirit of '73: rock for
        choice" (1995)
    - "rockin' in the free world" by neil young (performed with k's
        choice), on the "power of two" single (1995)
    - "uncle john's band" by robert hunter and jerry garcia, on
        "deadicated" (a tribute to the grateful dead) (1991)
    - "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" by rand bishop, on "put
        on your green shoes" (an album of children's songs aimed at
        raising environmental awareness) (1993)

covers available on promotional items and rare recordings include:
    - "finlandia" by jean sibelius, on the "indigo girls" ep (1986)
    - "love of the common people" by j. hurley and r. wilkens, on
        "reverse 1 - live" (1989)
    - "melissa" by the allman brothers, on "shades of indigo" (1990)
    - "mona lisas and mad hatters" by elton john and bernie taupin,
        on "reverse 1 - live" (1989)
    - "the water is wide" (traditional), on "an acoustic evening with
        the allman brothers band and the indigo girls" (1992)
    - "the weakness in me" by joan armatrading, on "blue food" (1985)

covers which are sometimes performed live, but which have never
officially been released, include:
    - "southern man" by neil young, performed with kristen hall
    - "white house blues" and "another on the rise", both by
        caroline aiken, performed with caroline aiken
    - "wild horses" by the rolling stones, performed with michelle
        malone

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.

- what compilations do indigo girls appear on?

indigo girls songs have appeared on many compilation albums,
including:
    - "american tune" (live) on "turn of the decade: 1989-1990 ben &
        jerry's newport folk festival" (1991)
    - "i'll give you my skin" (studio) on "tame yourself" (1991)
    - "uncle john's band" (studio) on "deadicated" (1991)
    - "i don't wanna talk about it" (studio) on "philadelphia: music
        from the motion picture" (1993)
    - "wild, wild party in the loquat tree" (studio) on "put on your
        green shoes" (1993)
    - "it won't take long" (studio) on "spirit of '73: rock for
        choice" (1995)
    - "blood quantum" (studio) on "honor1: a benefit for the honor
        the earth campaign" (1996)
    - "free of hope" (studio) on "sweet relief ii: gravity of the
        situation" (1996)

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.

- what albums by other artists do amy and emily appear on?

amy and emily have appeared, both together and separately, as guest
artists on many albums.  these include:
    - "live at the attic" by caroline aiken (1993), both
    - "ring them bells" by joan baez (1995), both
    - "billy pilgrim" by billy pilgrim (1994), emily
    - "come on, come on" by mary chapin carpenter (1992), both
    - "disappear fear" by disappear fear (1994), both
    - "phantom center" by ferron (1995 re-release only), both
    - "still riot" by ferron (1996), emily
    - "flyer" by nanci griffith (1994), both
    - "real life stuff" by kristen hall (1990), emily
    - "fact and fiction" by kristen hall (1991), emily
    - "be careful what you wish for" by kristen hall (1994), emily
    - "more than i" by gerard mchugh (1992), both

for a more detailed listing, see the indigo girls discography at
www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls.

6. questions about album covers and titles
==========================================

- who are the people in the photograph on the "strange fire" insert?

the photograph was taken at the little five points pub in atlanta.
the people in the picture are amy's and emily's families, the manager
and staff of the pub and, in the back, the musicians who played on
the album. there are also photographs of family members who couldn't
be there that day on some of the tables.

- what does "swamp ophelia" mean?

while on vacation in florida, amy went on a nature walk and saw a
plant called swampophilia.  in a 1994 interview she said, "it made
me think of hamlet and ophelia and the swamp.  but it all kind of
mixes in together."  however, there does not actually seem to be a
plant called swampophilia; it's possible that the phrase came
entirely from amy's imagination.

- what does "4.5" mean?

- what does "1200 curfews" mean?

"1200 curfews" stands for "twelve hundred curfews", rather than
"twelve o'clock curfews".  this refers to the fact that indigo girls
had played approximately 1200 concerts between the start of their
career and the time the album was released.  each concert had a
curfew, to which amy and emily were often running close.  as amy says
after "closer to fine" on the album, "we've gotta go, we've got a
curfew!"

7. questions about songs from "strange fire"
============================================

- what is strange fire?

as in all indigo girls songs, specific symbolism is left as an open
question. for example, some believe strange fire is a reference to
the christian celebration of "pentecost" (the empowerment of the 12
apostles by the holy spirit), while others see a reference to milton.
there are countless interpretations; however, most center about a
common theme, that of an ineffable spirit which can strengthen and
actuate those who possess it.

- what does "you remind me of shalott" mean?

although she admits to misspelling the name in the lyrics, emily is
referring to alfred lord tennyson's poem "the lady of shalott".  in
the poem, shallot was a mythical island which lay upriver from king
arthur's camelot.  a curse lay upon the lady of shallot that some
unknown fate would befall her should she look outside the castle.
so, she stayed within her walls and wove "a magic web with colours
gay" through which she watched the world.  one day sir lancelot came
riding down the riverbank by the castle.  the lady spied him in her
magic web and, drawn to him, left her loom and looked out through her
window.  the poem ends with the body of the lady, slain by her curse,
floating down the river through camelot in a boat.

- who is talking at the end of "i don't wanna know"?

amy and michelle malone. it is very hard to make out what they are
saying although at one point it does sound like michelle is saying,
"i can't talk to y'all, i gotta go," or something along those lines.

8. questions about songs from "indigo girls"
============================================

- what is "secure yourself" about?

"secure yourself" is about the spiritual journey into heaven. the
song was inspired by amy's grief when one of her cats died.

- what is "kid fears" about?

"kid fears" is about the music industry and about refusing to "sell
out". in an interview in the washington times in january 1989, amy
said, "'how much further' is about reaching it in the music business.
it's sort of a cut down on people who are just trying to make it,
people who would sell their soul, who would sell out, who would do
anything."

- why doesn't amy sing "blood and fire" anymore?

"blood and fire" is a very intense and emotional song and amy does
not perform it anymore because she does not want to revisit the
feelings that went into writing (and performing) the song. she has
stated that if she were to sing the song now, it would be dishonest.

9. questions about songs from "nomads*indians*saints"
=====================================================

- who is sejarez?

sejarez, whom amy mentions in "world falls", is not a real person; he
was a character (possibly some kind of philosopher) that appeared in
one of amy's dreams.

- is "pushing the needle too far" about drugs?

in the "nomads*indians*saints" press kit amy said, "this song deals
with alienation and the way we sometimes numb ourselves to things.
obviously, the needle suggests a drug analogy, but it's also like the
needle on a meter. but it's a symbol, not a literal usage like neil
young's 'the needle and the damage done'. it's about the things
people do to numb themselves to the pain of their situation."

- what is "the girl with the weight of the world in her hands" about?

emily has stated that this song is not about any person in
particular. in the "nomads*indians*saints" songbook she writes, "the
bottom line is, we never know what someone is really going through
inside. the loneliest people are those we tend to avoid the most.
this is about wanting to overcome that feeling in myself and trying
to get closer to someone in that situation, someone i might usually
shy away from."

10. questions about songs from "rites of passage"
=================================================

- what is "three hits" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit, amy explained the inspiration
for the song.  "'three hits' was inspired by the poems of frank
stanford.  a music friend of mine sent me a book of his poetry, 'the
light the dead see', and i went crazy over it - it changed my life a
little.  i was reading some biographical notes on stanford and
learned that he'd committed suicide in the early 80's at age 30 - he
shot himself three times in the heart.  that image really stuck with
me.  so i used images from his poems and his life: that he was
adopted, that he left his wife behind..."

- what is "jonas and ezekial" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit amy said, "we played dartmouth
college and met some real free thinkers up there. i took a long bike
ride on highway 5, on the border of new hampshire and vermont, and
this song uses references from that and from earlier road trips -
things i heard in conversation, things from the news... it's a
political song about people who put their faith in prophesy, who're
walking toward disaster instead of doing anything about it."

jonas and ezekial are names that amy saw on tombstones in a slave
cemetery. they are possibly also references to the biblical
characters of the same name (although the names are spelt differently
in different translations of the bible).

- who is the "activist with a very short life" mentioned in "jonas
and ezekial"?

amy is referring to bob sheldon, the owner of internationalist books
in chapel hill, north carolina. sheldon was an active anti-war
activist at the time of desert shield and desert storm. he was shot
while alone in his store on february 21, 1991.

- what is emily singing at the end of "jonas and ezekial"?

emily sings, "now i walk in beauty / beauty is before me / beauty is
behind me / above and below me." the words are from a native
american song that is usually sung in a round.

- who wrote "romeo and juliet", and where can i find the original
version?

"romeo and juliet" was written by mark knopfler of dire straits and
can be found on their 1987 album "making movies".

in a november 1994 interview, amy said that she had learned a lot of
the songs from "making movies". "i used to play in a hotel lounge.
i thought ['romeo and juliet'] was an incredibly well written song
and i could relate to it at the time for some reason. it just kinda
grew and changed over the years." at the time, she said she had
never spoken to mark about the song and said, "i wouldn't even want
to know what he thinks."

- who is the chickenman?

in the "rites of passage" press kit amy said, "this is a real
person, an older guy who lives in a trailer in the middle of this
junkyard off the highway somewhere between houston and austin.
there's a big sign that says 'chicken man'.  it looks like
everything's for sale, but you'll ask about something and he'll say,
'oh that's not for sale.'  we got into a conversation, and some of
his values and ideas seemed incredibly comforting to me at the time.
it was the way he'd look out over this piece of land and take such
pride and satisfaction in this collection of junk!  this guy was
deep, he had layers of character underneath that rough skin and dirt.
'chickenman' is really a stream-of-consciousness type song."

- what is the extra verse amy sings in the middle of the live version
of "chickenman"?

recent live versions of "chickenman" have been varied by the addition
of extra lyrics before the third verse ("i was on the road to
austin...").  the extra lyrics are:
    - "hear the shotgun shiver / another arrow from the quiver"
    - "screwed up boys and argentinians / europe shed the blood of
        the indians /  here i sit in the land of plenty / crying
        about my own virginity / hey blue blood you're nothing new /
        you see i come from privilege too / chapter in the book on
        the americas / we're just another colonial terrorist"

amy has inserted one or both of these lyrics on different occasions.
the second lyric has also been inserted at the end of amy's song
"shame on you".

- what is "nashville" about?

in the "rites of passage" press kit, amy explained the song's origin.
"this is a song from 1984 which never exactly fit in with an album
before. i wrote it when i was in college at vanderbilt university,
not exactly a hotbed of liberalism. in fact, there were some very
racist and sexist things happening on that campus, and i found the
city reflected those same qualities to an extent... as a songwriter
trying to be heard, i found it extremely competitive and oppressive.
as a southerner, i feel free to criticize from 'within the family'.
i could say some of the same things about atlanta that i'm saying
here about nashville."

- what is "cedar tree" about?

on the 1992 "general foods international house session" promotional
cd amy says, "i was walking around up in north georgia, in the
mountains, and i came upon this settlement from the 1830's and there
were all these cedar trees planted around these old chimneys. and a
friend of my father's said that back in those days a husband would
plant a tree for every wife he'd had and so i wrote a song about it,
'cause there were bunch of trees up there."

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indigo girls: frequently asked questions
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version 3.0
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part 3 of 3
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last modified: 14 december 1996.

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table of contents
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[part 3]
11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
12. other song related questions
13. recent indigo girls news
14. miscellaneous questions
15. acknowledgements

11. questions about songs from "swamp ophelia"
==============================================

- what is "fugitive" about?

in a 1994 interview amy explained, "'fugitive' is... kind of a love
song, but it's also, you know, it's very abstract. it's me, the
struggle within myself and the struggle with someone else to create
commitment in a world of this - of the music industry, which is
really kind of screwy. and the idea of invading privacy and - it's
about freedom, really, and about the ability to be free."

- what are they saying at the end of "least complicated"?

the conversation is mostly obscured by percussion; however, emily can
clearly be heard saying, "that's the way i can feel it." amy's reply
is hard to make out; it sounds as though she is saying, "but you
don't want..."

- what is "language or the kiss" about?

emily has never directly explained this song, but the common
consensus among fans is that this song is about choices. more
specifically, that it is about having to choose between a musical
career, especially one that involves a lot of touring ("language"),
and a "normal" life at home with family and loved ones ("the kiss").

- what is "reunion" about?

at a concert in philadelphia on december 3, 1994, amy said, "i went
to my high school reunion about a year and a half ago... it was a
weird and ambivalent experience, because i had actually had a good
time in high school and emily didn't.  so i went expecting the best
and... i had this friend, sort of, that i went around with.  every
time i would go up to someone and give 'em a hug or shake their hand
or something, my friend would take me over to the side of the room
and say, 'you know, that person you just hugged over there, they
hated you in high school and made fun of you every day.'  and i was
like, 'shit!'  so i just learned - i chalked it up to experience and
felt like it didn't really matter and i could be friends with anybody
anyway.  so this is a song about faith in yourself."

- what does "all skate, now reverse" mean?

on the may 12, 1994 broadcast of "world cafe" amy said, "some friends
of ours, mrs fun... were the guest band on the record. they went to
see a friend of theirs play who used to... you know when you're at
the skating rink and they go 'all skate, now reverse'... i was just
saying it and we stuck it before ['touch me fall'] because we thought
it represented what the song was doing."

- what is "touch me fall" about?

when asked in 1994 about the meaning of "touch me fall", amy replied,
"it is very abstract.  i don't think it is easy to understand the
meaning of it because i don't really either.  i just kind of let it
all come out.  it is sort of about decomposition in general.
decomposition of love, life and fame.  everything.  it is the beauty
of decomposition and i am tying it into the fall, meaning the
season."

- what are they saying near the end of "touch me fall"?

amy is saying, over and over again, the lyrics from the chorus:
"watch me let you down / if i stumble, i will stumble / if i fall, i
will fall / trying to hold it like rain in a river / everything is
getting bigger / better, can't hold it forever..."

- what is being sung at the beginning of "mystery"?

"handed down or made by hand."

- is larry ray, who sings on "dead man's hill", related to amy?

larry ray sr. is amy's father.

- what is "dead man's hill" about?

"dead man's hill" was inspired by an experience that amy had when she
was very young; she saw some high school boys douse cats with
gasoline and light them on fire. it was, in her words, her "first
exposure to real evil".

in the "swamp ophelia" press release amy further explains, "the point
of view shifts back and forth from child to adult. in some ways the
song is directed to my parents - that's why i asked my dad to sing on
it. it's like i'm saying 'when things are bad i may not be able to
ask for your help, but i'll let you know they're bad!'"

- what are they saying at the beginning of "this train revised"?

the names of holocaust victims are being read by amy, emily, ferron
and michael lorant of big fish ensemble.

- what does the "revised" in "this train revised" mean?

"this train revised" was inspired both by amy's visit to the
holocaust museum in washington dc and by woody guthrie's song "this
train".  the original "this train" was about the righteous riding
into heaven.  in an interview in the 1994 issue of deneuve magazine
amy said, "i went to the holocaust museum and it really affected me.
there's a lot now that's being uncovered about the homosexual
experience of the holocaust and how it affected those survivors.  at
the museum it's made very clear that although jews were by far the
main victims of the holocaust, there were many others, too.  i really
need to write about these feelings."

- what is the music box playing at the end of "this train revised"?

if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of the music box
winding several seconds after the song itself ends. the tune that
the music box plays is "nocturne in e-flat" by frederick chopin.

12. other song related questions
================================

- what is the unnamed track at the end of the second "1200 curfews"
cd?

this is a partial version (just the chorus) of amy's song "problem
child" (called "go go go" in the "1200 curfews" press kit), combined
with the ending of "touch me fall".

- what is "blood quantum" about?

in an interview in philadelphia in august 1996, amy said, "'blood
quantum' [is about] indian policy - genocide through bureaucracy and
paperwork... it's all really convoluted, but it's based on a dream i
had.  i started the song... i had this dream that i'm standing in
line with this pitcher of blood and... you know, everybody's getting
their blood measured to see how much indian they are.  it was the
most bizarre dream - i just finished reading all these books on blood
quantum you know, and so i started this song and couldn't finish it,
so emily finished this song for me.  she wrote lyrics and music,
wrote the bridge and stuff."

13. recent indigo girls news
============================

- what are amy and emily currently up to?

on august 31, 1996, indigo girls completed a three-week demonstration
tour. while it is possible that a random concert or two may be
scheduled before march/may (spring) 1997, there will be no full-scale
tour for the next few months.

amy, emily and band members have gone into the studio to begin
recording indigo girls' sixth studio album. the new album, "map", is
tentatively scheduled for release around march 1997. "map" is likely
to contain at least 10 or 11 tracks, and from what has been heard on
the demo tour, it is going to be a very good album indeed.

it is almost certain that indigo girls will be touring worldwide to
support this album although that information is not yet available.
three ways to find out about concert dates in advance are to join the
official indigo girls fan club, check their sony www page, or simply
watch for the announcement on the mailing list. see the indigo girls
mailing list faq for information on how to join the indigo girls
mailing list.

- what new songs have amy and emily written lately?

new songs which will probably be included on the new album include:
by amy:
    - "chiapas bound"
    - "cut it out"
    - "don't give that girl a gun"
    - "hey kind friend"
    - "problem child" (a partial version of which is included at the
        end of "1200 curfews")
    - "shame on you"

by emily:
    - "cara mia"
    - "get out the map"
    - "going to the country"
    - "in its time" (title unconfirmed)
    - "it's alright"
    - "leeds"
    - "winthrop"

- i heard amy and emily are playing new instruments - is this true?

yes, it is.  both amy and emily have picked up a few new instruments.
here's a list of the instruments they are known to play:
    - amy - acoustic, 12-string, electric and slide guitars,
        mandolin, piano, melodica, ukelele
    - emily - acoustic, classical, electric, 12-string electric and
        slide guitars, banjo, dobro, dulcimer, bass guitar, bouzouki,
        piano, keyboards

14. miscellaneous questions
===========================

- who says "moo" and "who loves us... nobody!" on "1200 curfews"?

emily, in both cases.

- what does "soc" stand for?

soc stands for "stream of consciousness".  this is a literary style
where the author relates whatever is crossing their mind at that
moment, without any attempt to edit it.  amy has been known to use
this technique while performing a few of her songs live, most notably
"chickenman" and "touch me fall".  she has also mentioned that she
sometimes uses this technique while writing songs.

- what is "jesus christ superstar"?

in 1994, amy's record label daemon records released, in collaboration
with long play records, "jesus christ superstar: a resurrection", a
revival of andrew lloyd webber's rock opera as performed by a group
of atlanta artists.  the project was the brainchild of michael lorant
of big fish ensemble and gerard mchugh.  it started out jokingly but
eventually evolved into a 2-cd recording and live performance which
was staged in atlanta, austin and seattle.  a video of the austin
show, from march 1995, was released by daemon records, long play
records and flagpole magazine in 1996.

the project featured michael lorant as judas iscariot, gerard mchugh
as pontius pilate, emily as mary magdalene and amy as jesus.
proceeds were donated towards ending gun violence, a project close to
michael lorant's heart: the singer was shot in a store robbery in
little five points in atlanta in 1991. for more information, visit
the hidden water "jesus christ superstar: a resurrection" www site at
http://www.hidwater.com/jcs/jcs.html.

- what is daemon records?

daemon records is a non-profit independent record label which was
started by amy in 1990. based in decatur, georgia, daemon is "a
vehicle to allow recording artists to express their artistic vision
without the confines and restrictions of the traditional corporate
rock label". amy believes strongly that diversity is the label's
first priority and strives to present music for people of all ages.
the common factor among the artists on the label is an "attention
to the craft of songwriting".

some of the artists signed to the daemon label include gerard
mchugh, danielle howle and reversing hour; former artists on the
label include kristen hall and band de soleil. daemon was also
involved in the 1993 release of "jesus christ superstar: a
resurrection". its most recent project has been the compilation
two-cd set "honor1", proceeds from which go towards aiding the
honor the earth campaign.

for more information about daemon, its artists or any of its
projects, contact daemon records at po box 1207, decatur, ga, usa
30031-1207 or visit their www site at http://monsterbit.com/daemon.

- what is honor the earth?

the honor the earth campaign is a joint project of the seventh
generation fund, the indigenous women's network and the indigenous
environment network. their mission is to create "awareness and
support for indigenous environmental issues" and to obtain "needed
financial and political resources for the survival of sustainable
indigenous communities".

in her notes on the daemon records www site in mid-1996, amy wrote,
"the honor the earth campaign supports native activists doing
grassroots work to save their cultural ways, communities, and the
environment. emily and i helped start the group about a year ago."
indigo girls toured for four weeks to help support the campaign in
1995, and amy has said that an honor the earth tour will be part of
every indigo girls touring season from now on.

the latest honor the earth project has been the release, in august
1996, of the 2-cd set "honor1: a benefit for the honor the earth
campaign" on amy's record label daemon records. for more information
about "honor1" or the honor the earth campaign, visit the campaign's
www site at http://www.honorearth.com.

- what is rainy day records?

rainy day records is a record store in atlanta which specializes in
music by atlanta artists including collectibles, imports and rare
items. rainy day records is owned and run by perry and marsha
thompson and ship worldwide. contact perry and marsha at
(800) 636-6166 in the us, (404) 636-6166 outside the us, via email
at rainy@rainy.com, or visit their www site at http://www.rainy.com.

- what is the flying biscuit?

the flying biscuit is a small restaurant in atlanta which is owned in
part by emily.

- i really like indigo girls; what other artists might appeal to me?

if you like indigo girls, other artists whom you might like include:
    - mary chapin carpenter - one of the leading female country/folk
        artists today, mary chapin has sung with indigo girls and
        joan baez at the newport folk festival.  amy and emily also
        appear on her fourth album "come on come on".
    - shawn colvin - with her intelligent lyrics and stripped-down,
        entertaining live performance, shawn has been wowing fans for
        several years.
    - ani difranco - although she has been described as "folkpunk",
        that does not accurately capture the essence of ani's music.
        she is possibly one of the finest lyricists since bob dylan,
        and her music is intensely personal and always brutally
        honest.
    - disappear fear - a folk/pop band whose songs deal mainly with
        love and politics.  they have opened for indigo girls many
        times, and amy and emily appear on their second, self-titled
        album.
    - kristen hall - a longtime friend of the indigo girls (and
        formerly their guitar technician), kristen is a gifted
        songwriter whose emotive voice adds extra edge to her
        delivery.
    - michelle malone - formerly of drag the river and now fronting
        band de soleil, michelle is also a talented solo performer
        and is another longtime friend of amy and emily.  she has a
        wonderful voice and definite rock tendencies.
    - shawn mullins - a favorite on the atlanta folk scene, shawn
        often performs with fellow atlantan matthew kahler.  by
        himself he is also a wonderful songwriter who is gifted with
        a beautiful, smooth voice.
    - new mongrels - put together by haynes brooke, new mongrels is
        a group made up of musicians from atlanta and seattle,
        including amy, emily, michelle malone and gerard mchugh.
        they have one release available, "not dead (yet)", in which
        they perform a collection of brooke's songs which are quirky
        in the extreme.
    - dar williams - possessed of a beautiful voice and admirable
        songwriting skill, dar's intelligent, multi-layered songs and
        her often ingenious delivery will capture your heart and
        imagination.

15. acknowledgements
====================

this faq was created through the collaborative efforts of the
creative group known as jcsdoubled -
    jen lucero (jlucero@monmouth.com)
    christopher becker (cmbecker@space.mit.edu)
    sherlyn koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au)
    deb reiser (debbie@mei.com)
    dwayne jarrell (djarrell@ix.netcom.com)

we rock!

thank you to carolyn spidle for creating and maintaining the
lifeblood www site, and to all the people who contributed, directly
and indirectly, the information used in this document.

and of course the biggest thanks of all go to our inspirations, amy
ray and emily saliers.

a + e = ig

hi everyone
i am interested in trading for the following boots:
white dot
blood and fire
jcs
lisner aud. april 22 1990
anything with "tame yourself" and/or "i'll give you my skin"

if you have any or all of these and want to see my list please email me!

thanks,
lori

"i would give my life to find it. i would give it all. catch me if i fall"
rem

hi folks,

i'm about to re-post the indigo girls faq to the list.
it's fairly long so apologies for that in advance. it
also comes in three parts so don't be alarmed...

happy happy all,
sherlyn

ps - jen - hint: next time you go swimming, take your
clothes off first. :)  how's the guitar-question thing
coming along?
pps - greg - "salacious" apparently means "lustful and
lecherous".  hm.  oh, and i'll mail you this evening,
gotta go out now...
=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=
"never cry because you're lonely,
your love will always be around the bend.
and never cry because you think you can't make it,
you've made it this far, that's better than most..."
                        - happy rhodes

so i'm jamming with one of my friends the other day, and i suggest that we start working on a cover of reunion. and she agrees, and then all of a sudden says "hey.. did you tape amy's spot on the radio the other night? 'cause it was cool and i want a copy." uhhhh...well, obviously i started primal screaming, but i'll skip that part of the story; it would take up a little too much space. so somebody tell me i missed amy on a northwest station? i guess 107.7 played the radio free la show that she was on...anybody get a copy? i can't seem to download it.

another relatively pointless excuse to post, but oh well...

hey, have any other pnwers heard the dumb little thing that they do on the mountain? it's one of those "hi, i'm emily", "and i'm amy", "we're the indigo girls, and this is 103.7fm the mountain" silly silly

soooo...nothing else to say except:
sundara, i lost your address (greta is so together) so send it 'a me soon, kay? jules, i still haven't gotten that tape for some strange reason (lost in the black hole known as the us postal service).
marianne, welcome back.
carolyn & kate forever.
bink, if you want a copy of that tape, let me know.
...i feel like i'm writing in a yearbook...
hey richmond women, where are my letters??!!

ummmm...i think that's it.
oh hey, i just got women live from the mountain stage. it's fabulous.

blah blah blah...
i'll go now.

...i slipped into a cafeeeee, downed five coffee shots and a latteeee....
greta

"i will not be a homophobic asshole!!!" -a. ray

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found the problem... the non-school account i have doesn't offer the
ig newsgroup. duh. the school one, however, does. neener.

sorry for the wasted bw.

tracy <who is rather happy to have two different accts now>

hey everyone,

i know that there are alot of you out there that know alot about this topic.
i am going to start taking guitar lessons and i need to know what to look
for when i go shopping for one. what is a good price, good kind? i know
absolutely nothing about guitars so i could use all the help i can get. thanks!

stacey

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on thu, 23 jan 1997, tracy - bound and gagged by lack of time (in seattle) wrote:

>         i know, i know... i should remember this... but what is the
> newsgroup for ig called again???  i'm playing around with my 'puter and
> thought i'd try again the newsgroup concept.  however, i can't seem to
> locate the main one i want to try again.  thanks.

it's alt.music.indigo-girls

rec.music.folk and alt.music.alternative.female are also worth checking
out from time to time too.

mat

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> 5. discography related questions
> ================================
>
> - what songs have been released as singles?
>
> to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
> commercially available single in the us is "power of two". however,
> various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
> commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
> see the indigo girls discography at
> www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
> for more details.

this is wrong as i own the galileo cassette single which i bought at
camelot when rites of passage was out

i just wanted to say that its too cool being apart of this mailing-list.
i have encountered only cool, nice people. i especially like the fact
that i have not received any opposition due to the fact that i am a male
fan, which i have previously encountered. i just wanted to say thanx.
--sunchips

".....on the road to austin, met a man on the high way, he sold me junk
and conversatino, he was wise and dirty from the weather..."

well, my two cents is this: depending on your budget of course.
i have this accoustic guitar that i think is as good as any i have ever
played. and before i got it, i had never heard of it and now it does me
proud. its called " art luthrie" its canadian pine with no finish but
give it a try you won't be dissattisfied.
---sunchips
"..is it enough to say that i want youto keep it close to me
me me is all i think think about what ever word you say
i mean anything..." 7m3

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actually, to some degree the faq is correct. "power of two" is the only
commercially available *cd* single. there are a number of cassette singles.
perhapos just a clarification of format needs to be made...

> > 5. discography related questions
> > ================================
> >
> > - what songs have been released as singles?
> >
> > to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
> > commercially available single in the us is "power of two". however,
> > various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
> > commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
> > see the indigo girls discography at
> > www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
> > for more details.
>
> this is wrong as i own the galileo cassette single which i bought at
> camelot when rites of passage was out
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remember..if you want 5 or more boots dubbed for you..don't send the
plastic case...if a package weighs more than 16oz..you have to take it to
the post office and show  the contents to a carrier..so far i've had to
repackage 3 sets of boots for folks cause  my postal carrier said they
needed to be inspected..
please..if your asking for 5 or more boots..just send the blanks in a
padded envelope..that'll save you time and  the booters a trip to the
post office and the extra postage..
thanks
pooh

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i, too, have acquired other singles.  were the cassette singles not
considered "comercially available" or what? i bought the closer to fine
single way back when that came out (i think it had "cold as ice" on the
b-side) and i have the land of canaan casette single and i think a couple
of others, because i know one had "finlandia" on the b-side and another
had "never stop" (i think)...  oh, and i bought all of 'em at the mall.
that seems commercial to me...
hmm. curious.
    julie

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> > 5. discography related questions
> > ================================
> >
> > - what songs have been released as singles?
> >
> > to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
> > commercially available single in the us is "power of two". however,
> > various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
> > commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
> > see the indigo girls discography at
> > www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
> > for more details.
>
> this is wrong as i own the galileo cassette single which i bought at
> camelot when rites of passage was out
>
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subject:      fw: alfie's home (fwd)

sorry for the nigc, but i think this might interest many of you.

please read this and pass it on!  request your free copy to waste their
money and lower their supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>forwarded message:
>>_____________________________
>>operating as a tax-exempt organization, the homophobic international healing
>>foundation (ihf) recently renewed its efforts to launch a national
>>fundraising scheme--the "donate-a-book campaign."  ihf is distributing
>>copies of a hard-cover children's picture book, "alfie's home," which tells
>>"the story of a boy who struggles with homosexuality and then transitions
>>into heterosexuality after finding help and experiencing his father's love."
>>
>>"alfie's home" was written by richard cohen, who is also the director of
ihf.
>>according to cohen--who identifies himself as an educator, psychotherapist
>>and "former homosexual"--the book is intended to "offer hope and healing to
>>children who wish to change from gay to straight."
>>
>>"no one is born homosexual," says cohen.  "'alfie's home' offers the
>>understanding that change is possible.  i have done it, and so have many
>>others."  the author adds that "alfie's story is no mere abstraction but has
>>been carved out of numerous case studies arising from my therapeutic
>>practice."
>>
>>ihf hopes to donate over 1,000 copies of the book to public and school
>>libraries across the nation.  the capaign is currently seeking donations,
>>and hopes to raise $5,000 to continue the effort.  to support the campaign,
>>ihf is also running radio/tv public service announcements and placing print
>>ads and news releases.
>>
>>"this year, one patron donated thousands of dollars for us to advertise in
>>local papers," cohen claims.  "from these ads many called and got help for
>>the first time."
>>
>>according to cohen, "alfie's home" is necessary to counter "the
>>pro-homosexual books such as 'daddy's home' and 'heather has two mommies'
>>which now exist in many libraries and schools throughout the country."
>>"members of the homosexual community have donated a large number of these
>>books in order to promote the acceptance of homosexuality," cohen says.
>>
>>the main character is "alfie's home" is a young boy who announces woefully:
>>"when i became a teenager, i started feeling really different from the other
>>guys...  i was confused.  i did have strong feelings for other guys."
>>
>>"after awhile, i went to a school counselor for help and advice." the boy
>>relates.  "i told him my story and that i thought i was gay.  he said i
>>wasn't gay...  he explained that because i didn't experience afffection with
>>my father, that now i was looking for closeness with other boys, to fill the
>>need for my dad's love."
>>
>>elsewhere, the story suggests that homosexuality is also caused by gay
>>pedophiles.  "my uncle peter comes over sometimes," alfie says. "one night
>>when he was holding me, he stared touching my private parts."
>>
>>the book also includes a hideous depiction of alfie being taunted by other
>>classmates:  "some of them called me names like 'sissy,' 'faggot,' 'queer,'
>>'homo.'  i didn't know what they meant."  however, this taunting is
portrayed
>>as one of the problems associated with homosexuality, not homophobia.  the
>>book condemns being gay, but not bashing gays.
>>
>>not surprisingly, the story of "alfie's home" concludes heterosexually ever
>>after.  following family counseling, alfie explains: "now, i realize that
>>i'm not gay...  finally, i am happy and at home.  now i am seeing nancy...
>>we are getting married.  it's exciting!!!"
>>
>>cohen is urging homophobes across the nation to "contact ihf for free copies
>>of 'alfie's home' to donate to your local public libraries and public
>>schools."  supporters are also provided with copies of a press release and
>>psa, to run in their local media markets.
>>
>>
>>**** action alert!:  request a free copy of "alfie's home" and alert
>>your local press, library or school board to the true nature of this
>>insidious and hateful misinformation campaign; contact richard a. cohen,
>>director, international healing foundation, inc., p.o. box 901, bowie, md
>>20718-0901, tel. 301-805-6111, fax 301-341-1258, e-mail ihf90@aol.com.
>>
>>whenever fair and accurate books about homosexuality come under attack in
>>your town, respond!  the national coalition against censorship (ncac) and
the
>>gay, lesbian, and straight teachers network (glstn) are progressive
>>organizations that can provide advice, resources and other information
>>regarding the fight for fair and free expression now being waged in schools
>>and libraries.  contact: ncac, 275 seventh avenue, new york, ny 10001, tel.
>>212-807-6222, fax 212-807-6245, e-mail ncac@netcom.com; glstn, 122 west 26th
>>street, suite 1100, new york, ny 10001, tel.212-727-0135, e-mail
>>glstn@glstn.org, web http://www.glstn.org/respect/.  among the resources
>>available from glstn is an especially handy reference sheet, "just the
facts:
>>on gay, lesbian, and bisexual students and schools."
>>
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>>"when action grows unprofitable, gather information;
>> when information grows unprofitable, sleep."
>>-- ursula k. le guin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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hi y'all,

i'm going to jump in one this one before my co-writers and address the
"only commercially released single" issue before it gets out of hand.

like many of you i own quite a few ig singles dating back to their
pre-epic release. but...what we were referring to was the only
commercially released single by epic records to the us market.

the singles with "finlandia" and "never stop" were pre-epic and the
"closer to fine" single was released as a promo only and possibly
overseas. many "mall" stores (no dig to julie) will carry foreign and
promo release singles in time and mall and chain stores are where i found
a good number of my singles as well.

so, when we wrote:

>to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a

>commercially available single in the us is "power of two". however,

>various promotional singles have been released in the us, and

>commercially available singles have been released in other countries.

>see the indigo girls discography at

><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls

</color>>for more details.

we were not excluding or invalidating the other available singles, just
making a distinction between commercial and other available singles.
check out the above website for more info...or if you have more
questions, feel free to email me.

take care everyone...and thanks for reading the faq!!

jen

censorship of any form is wrong.

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on thu, 23 jan 1997, jen lucero wrote:

>         hi y'all,
>
>
>         i'm going to jump in one this one before my co-writers and address the
> "only commercially released single" issue before it gets out of hand.
>
>         like many of you i own quite a few ig singles dating back to their
> pre-epic release.  but...what we were referring to was the only
> commercially released single by epic records to the us market.
and what is my galileo???? its not a import it was commerically released

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r u sure on this i think my single could have been available as a cd
single i jsut didnt have a cd player at the time

on thu, 23 jan 1997, amy j. putnam wrote:

>
> actually, to some degree the faq is correct.  "power of two" is the only
> commercially available *cd* single.  there are a number of cassette singles.
> perhapos just a clarification of format needs to be made...
>
>
>
> > > 5. discography related questions
> > > ================================
> > >
> > > - what songs have been released as singles?
> > >
> > > to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
> > > commercially available single in the us is "power of two".  however,
> > > various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
> > > commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
> > > see the indigo girls discography at
> > > www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
> > > for more details.
> >
> > this is wrong as i own the galileo cassette single which i bought at
> > camelot when rites of passage was out
> >
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>
>

hi everyone,

amy putnam said:
>actually, to some degree the faq is correct. "power of two" is the only
>commercially available *cd* single. there are a number of cassette singles.
>perhapos just a clarification of format needs to be made...

first, thanks to everyone for pointing the possibility for
confusion in the faq answer to the above question. jen
lucero was 110% correct and clear in explaining the
motivation behind our choice of words in the faq. amy
has a good suggestion there though and i'll re-word it
slightly in order to (hopefully) avoid further confusion.

cheers,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"the government, they promised me a measly little sum,
but i've got too much pride to end up just another bum.
then i thought, 'who gives a damn if all the jobs are gone?'
i'm gonna be a pirate... on the river saskatchewan!"
- the arrogant worms

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              j. putnam" at jan 23, 97 08:06:12 pm

i have "joking" and "least complicated ob cassette or released cd single --
yep got power of two with a funky pin of a bird -- lost my ig hat at a
resturant --aaaarrrrggghhhhhhhh

wishing to be @ the boston list party ( unless i decide to run off to ride
my bike in the olympic and paralympic tracks at stone mt. if i decide to
ride in atlantala 3/4 as it would be spring break -- i would easly split
tolls from anywhere along the way (1.00 in ny, 4.40 in nj, $2 to cross
chesapeake bay , another 1,25 in delaware -- probably two more bucks outside
of baltimore -- i forget tolls south of dc) i will split gas !!!!!

i also think i have galileo on tape -- i have one on cd .. i think i sold
one earlier...
mike r.
*desperately seeking any leaks from the various studios ig recorded at ...

(if it happens to u2 -- i have six sound files 8^) -- one song for a
lemgthy 1;02 -- so much for bootlegs ....

(my friend had me d/l them for him.... he had the sites in oct.

mike r.

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somehow i am not so sure we should be requesting free copies of this
book if we think the message is anti-gay and pro-homophobe.  they will get
all the funding they need from their happy benefactors, and will continue
to make more copies, and then there will be even more floating around in
the world.  i think what we need to do instead is to support publishers
who have helped make the homosexual community more visible: go out and get
your own copy of heather has two mommies (by leslea newman).  write your
own story...i know there are some writers out there...
        on another note, i'm inclined to believe that mr. cohen may think
he's a former homosexual because he went through those natural adolescent
feelings of ambiguity and experimentation but it turned out that he was
straight.  i think he was confused and thought that having any feelings
whatsoever toward the same sex automatically makes you homosexual.  any
other thoughts out there?

;) marianne

t minus 113 days to graduation!!!

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i have no ide aall i know is i have what i said and its got 3 hits on the
b side which is sampling of ghost joking and i cant remmeber the third oen
right now

on thu, 23 jan 1997, aja wrote:

> i, too, have acquired other singles.  were the cassette singles not
> considered "comercially available" or what? i bought the closer to fine
> single way back when that came out (i think it had "cold as ice" on the
> b-side) and i have the land of canaan casette single and i think a couple
> of others, because i know one had "finlandia" on the b-side and another
> had "never stop" (i think)...  oh, and i bought all of 'em at the mall.
> that seems commercial to me...
>  hmm. curious.
>     julie
>
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> > > 5. discography related questions
> > > ================================
> > >
> > > - what songs have been released as singles?
> > >
> > > to date, the only indigo girls song which has been released as a
> > > commercially available single in the us is "power of two".  however,
> > > various promotional singles have been released in the us, and
> > > commercially available singles have been released in other countries.
> > > see the indigo girls discography at
> > > www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/folkbook/artists/discographies/indigo_girls
> > > for more details.
> >
> > this is wrong as i own the galileo cassette single which i bought at
> > camelot when rites of passage was out
> >
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>

hi everyone :)

i just wanted to share my funny experience today at the grocery store.
y'all might not find this funny, but i was soooo amused (albeit, it
doesn't take much to amuse me)

i was wandering through the aisles of my favorite grocery store (the type
of grocery store where you actually might have people burst out in song
as if real life was a musical, cause the store is just so fun) so, i'm
looking at all the chocolate and candy, cause i had a caramel corn urge,
and out of the corner of my eye, i see a carton of peanuts, and the
peanuts are called  "ass kickin' peanuts"  hee hee. and there was a
little picture of a donkey, kicking his hind legs.  i was soooo amused.
who would name their peanuts ass kickin'???  so i pick it up and show my
housemate, she did not find it as funny as me.  then, i keep reading the
label, and at the bottom it says "kick yo ass hot"   at this point, i
could not control my laughter, and lots of people started looking at me
funny cause i was laughing so hard.  for the rest of the evening i have
been tormenting my housemate by randomly spewing "kick yo ass hot"  hah
hah hah.  alright. i will stop this mindless drivvle.  i hope someone is
as amused as i am.

love sundara <-- who has decided she should probably come with a warning
label, possibly "entering the world of sundara, proceed at your own risk"

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um you sure its a promo no where does it say promo on it at all nor does
it say from the forthcoming it also has a epic number
it hsa the 3 songs on side b plus one more on side b called love will come
to you number on tape is 34t74326

on fri, 24 jan 1997, jen lucero wrote:

> at 12:58 am 1/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >its got galileo on side a on side b it has someting called i tink 3 hits i
> >cant find where its at righ tnow but what it was  was a sampling of 3
> >differnt songs off of rights of passage  ghost,joking and i think jonas
> >and eezekial im not sure thoug
> >
> >
>       hi again,
>
>       what you're referring to is a promo collection technically not for
> sale...but like many items it will find it's way to the mass market.  i
> have the same single and while i bought it at a chain store, i shortly
> confirmed afterwards that it was not a commercial release.
>
>       jen
>

okay....i can't telnet, but i can chat on tvchat....and one perk of
talking on tvchat is that you can post pictures by your nick...and since
my nick is salray, i was wondering if any of you had some ig pics to
send me so i could change a picture every day....i've been wearing the
same smile for the past four days...know what i mean?? thanks...love to
y'all
-"sal"

i tried to send you a reply re: australian tours, but for some reason the
computer said that your address was not readable??? email me again, and we
can try again.

sara

                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

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on thu, 23 jan 1997, marianne barlow wrote:

>         on another note, i'm inclined to believe that mr. cohen may think
> he's a former homosexual because he went through those natural adolescent
> feelings of ambiguity and experimentation but it turned out that he was
> straight.  i think he was confused and thought that having any feelings
> whatsoever toward the same sex automatically makes you homosexual.  any
> other thoughts out there?

i've actually heard of some vicar (over here, i think) who claims he used
to be gay and got 'healed', and is now married to (wait for it) a former
lesbian. the two of them run an organisation to do the same for other
young gays.

i also know someone here in aberystwyth who sought the help of a religious
'healing' group a few years ago and ended up attempting suicide. the
'treatment', needless to say, didn't work, and he is still gay today.
and his views on christians are less than liberal ...

mat

since there seem to be intellegent guitar people on this list, does anyone
mind if i ask a question?  well, yell at me later if you do.  anyone heard of
or played carvin guitars, especially their semi-hollow acoustic(s)?  i was
considering buying one.  are they worth the money?

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hey all,

i have just signed on to this list. is this tree closed?

j w norris

peace...and listen to the music play...

j w

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believe what you need to get by
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on these boats that fell out of the sky.
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this is an interesting thread, and interesting timing...hadn't we just
mentioned martin luther king too?  i dunno, i tend to lump things together,
perhaps a bit more than i should, but bad things have happened to groups of
people forever, throughout history, and it's scary.  it's scary whether it's
the holocaust, or other holocausts, or racism or anything.  it's scary now
b/c nothing has ended.  i went to the holocaust museum last spring, i think,
and it was very very moving (understatement?)  i remember standing in the
hallway where they have all these shoes of people who died in certain camps,
and i felt like i couldn't leave - like i had to know all these shoes,
because i couldn't know their people.  that was the strongest image for me,
although the boxcar thing was also powerful - scary, i wanted to get out of
it, like it would close me in and take me back.  but - the igc in here is
that back that night, in our motel room, i was listening to swamp ophelia on
my walkman - i had always figured it was about the holocaust but i didn't
know amy had written it after going to the museum.  i was writing a
story/essay/rambling written thing, about the shoes mostly, and that song
came on and i just started crying, because it seemed like everything was
coming in a full circle, and even though we keep trying to improve things
there's always going to be horrible things to improve.  and that's my
pessimistic view.  my optimistic side...well, just a month ago or so i was at
the holocaust museum again, and had the same kinds of feelings.  i found
myself singing ttr, too.  but it seems like the stronger emotions you feel,
the more memory you can conjure up for people who were killed or hurt,
regardless of why, the better chance we all have for the future.  and i'm
glad there are people like amy and emily and people like all of you on the
list, etc...
thank you! for indulging katy's point-free ramblings....
no more exams for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love, peace, ponies, all that good stuff......katy

--- pooh wrote:
..if a package weighs more than 16oz..you have to take it to
the post office and show the contents to a carrier..so far i've had to
repackage 3 sets of boots for folks cause my postal carrier said they
needed to be inspected..
please..if your asking for 5 or more boots..just send the blanks in a
padded envelope..
--- end of quoted material ---
hey little lambs,

i've had problems in the past with folks sending me tapes without the plastic
cases and the tapes getting demolished like so much fine china in the mail. so,
i think it's best to ask the booter (that looks suspiciously close to
booger...huh bink?) what they prefer. i'd much rather go to the post office
with yer tapes than have to break the news that your tapes came to me as shreds
of plastic!

tanks-
sbm

in a message dated 97-01-24 00:22:44 est, pooh write:

<< remember..if you want 5 or more boots dubbed for you..don't send the
plastic case...if a package weighs more than 16oz..you have to take it to
the post office and show the contents to a carrier..so far i've had to
repackage 3 sets of boots for folks cause my postal carrier said they
needed to be inspected.. >>

i have a suggestion....to save the boots from being mashed up and
smashed up and defensless without cases....
just split em up into 2 (two) padded envelopes. that's what i do....
it is a known fact that special trips to the post office delay boot
delivery by an average of 3-5 days (especially if binky is sending them.)

arf wah !
binkles
a note to those i am doin' the boot thang with.... there will be a
slight delay as i experienced a tragic incident with my copy of
'white dot' helpfull hint : punch out the little holes on your
boots if you don't want to erase them accidentally :(
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                                               (bart s.)
                              claire's homepage and art barn !
                      http://members.aol.com/mmedido/index.htm
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ok, with the other posts, i can see i wasnt so clear myself.
power of two was the only cd single in the us which was commercially
available.  there are, as it has been opinted out, a number of
australian, austrian/german, and uk singles which have been availalbe
here.  and of course, the promo singles.  but in the us, "power of two"
is the only one that has been made by sony/epic us for sale through
regular retail.  does that help?

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at 08:52 am 1/24/97 -0500, mmedido@aol.com wrote:

>a note to those i am doin' the boot thang with.... there will be a
>slight delay as i experienced a tragic incident with my copy of
> 'white dot' helpfull hint : punch out the little holes on your
>boots if you don't want to erase them accidentally :(

i may be the only one doing this, so i propose a booter rule:

when you make a boot for someone, take two secs and pop out those nasty
little tab thingys before you mail them! if someone ever wants to tape over
or reuse the tape, you just put a little piece of scotch tape over the hole
and whallah! you are back in business!

ok, i'm off the podium.  you see, binkles, i lent a video tape of "the
empire strikes back" that i copied from hbo to my aunt once, and when i went
to collect, she said "joni, um, i think i taped over the beginning of your
tape.  i was watching qvc and there was this lovely cheap imitation faux
pearl necklace that i just had to have.  i just hit 'record' figuring my own
tape was in there, and well, ...it was your tape.  sorry..."

joni (sounding hauntingly like homer simpson): "dough!"

my fault...forgot to pull the tab thingy. burned once makes you always donn
the protective fire gear.

just mho and my 2 cents....

have a nice day everyone!

joni :o)

hey all,
i'm not sure if you know this already from a previous post. heck,i'm not even
sure if the previous post ever got sent and received, aol has been so screwy
lately. anyways, my point ( and i do have one) is that i'm constructing a
webpage for escuela ( school if ya never took spanish 1) 3/4 of which is
devoted to aande and worshipping them, basically. so what i need, among other
things are #1- pictures and #2 quotes. the way i'm gonna do it is i have a
page of just info, then i'm going to have pages of pics with scrolling
marquees of quotes in between the pics. so, i'm thinking if everyone were to
send me their favorite quote ( privately, of course to juliannafl) i would
have oodles to choose from. i actually sat down w/1200 curfews and attempted
to write down all the good quotes as they rushed by me in a stream of
igness..but i figured since you all are such an excellent resource on all
things aande, i would squeeze every little last drop of knowledge from your
heads! thanks soooooooooo much!
love and sorry for waste of bandwidth,
julianna

hello everyone,

i was visiting the ig homepage at epic and noticed their movie clips and
sound files are now included on the page!

i'll race ya,
amy

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i downloaded them all it is is them talking asbout the new cd thats it
really

on fri, 24 jan 1997, amy e. hannon wrote:

> hello everyone,
>
> i was visiting the ig homepage at epic and noticed their movie clips and
> sound files are now included on the page!
>
> i'll race ya,
> amy
>
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subject:      best buddies

hi everyone! :)

i love this list! it is a wonderful way to procrastinate from the
onslaught of exams which i should currently be studying for...ah,
well -- i'm such a rebel. <grin>

i was wondering if anyone knows if amy and emily are best friends.
i understand how silly that inquiry is on first glance, but i've been
thinking about it for awhile.  has anyone heard them mention others
close to them, or individuals they like spending time with?  this is
not meant to spark an interest in their romantic relationships, but
rather, do they consider one another as only part of a "working
pair"?  have they met each other's family and/or watched movies
and/or went shopping, etc.

touring and writing material for albums can be very tiring,
especially when it involves working with the same person day after
day. sooo...i was wondering if either of them mention other people
who are close to them. or, do they consider each other their best
friend?

maybe the concept of a 'best friend' wears off after grade school,
and i'm just shooting in the dark. :)

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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-rem
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this message if for all of you wendy bucklew fans.  i managed to catch her
performance at the genghis cantina (in los angeles) last night.  although the
drive was a long one for me, the performance was well worth it.  wendy's got a
lot of new material; as lorene (wendy's manager) has informed everyone, a new
cd should be coming soon.

for those of you that have not yet seen ms. bucklew perform, i strongly
recommend that you do.

wendy's got a website set up (through hidden water, i guess). check there for
upcoming tour dates. wendy will be up and down the west coast, so be sure
and keep an eye out for her.

--elana

>i was wondering if anyone knows if amy and emily are best friends.
>i understand how silly that inquiry is on first glance, but i've been
>thinking about it for awhile.  has anyone heard them mention others
>close to them, or individuals they like spending time with?  this is
>not meant to spark an interest in their romantic relationships, but
>rather, do they consider one another as only part of a "working
>pair"?  have they met each other's family and/or watched movies
>and/or went shopping, etc.

sorry, but i am about to vent here: does anyone, or _has_ anyone on this
list read the faq(s)????? my goodness, sherlyn just reposted it within the
last 24 hrs and you get in when you subscribe, but based on the questions
that have been asked on this list, particularly within the last two weeks,
i would swear that no one has even glanced at it. questions such as the one
above are answered in great detail in the faq. if you have a question that
you want to pose to the list, please refer to the faq(s) before posting.
there's a good chance that you'll find the answer you're looking for. why
is that so hard?

deb

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well the guest stars is them talking about some i think it was native
american ladies who do vocals and do something called throat singing
which is making noises with yoru htroat they also said they sing a wide
variety of music types ie gospal rock etc the new cd one just stated
there iwlll be more electric stuff on this one ie more electric gutiars
and stuff then on previous relases
on fri, 24 jan 1997, the chickenman
wrote:

> at 11:04 am 1/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >i downloaded them all it is is them talking asbout the new cd thats it
> >really
> >
> ....really, really what????  let me know.
> please don't leave me hangin --- here
>
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>
>
>

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on wed, 24 jan 1996, indigo jo wrote:
>
> i've actually heard of some vicar (over here, i think) who claims he used
> to be gay and got 'healed', and is now married to (wait for it) a former
> lesbian. the two of them run an organisation to do the same for other
> young gays.

hmmm....i bet they don't have much sex....

;) marianne

t minus 112 days to graduation!!!

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subject:      a cappella ig mix -- call for music

i'm reposting my original call for a cappella ig covers...if you know of
someone who has one who has yet to resubscribe from vacation, pass this
along. so far i have knowledge of the following:

"ghost" -- mixed company (yale) knave4@aol.com

"galileo" -- in sync (brandeis u.) ablipman@mail.sas.upenn.edu
"lc" -- wellesley college blue notes ablipman@mail.sas.upenn.edu

"blood & fire" -- off the beat me.
"galileo" -- yale whim n' rhythm me.

and marianne asked about adding good non-a cappella covers (what do you
all think of that, if there's not enough a cappella stuff to fill both
sides of a tape?):

"strange fire" and "fugitive" -- delphinium blue mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu

i know there's more out there......so email me, folks. what do you
have? what have your heard?

> || i hereby volunteer myself to make the a cappella ig covers mix.  since a
> || lot of college folk (source of most a cappella) are going to miss this,
> || i'll repost in january and start putting it together after that.
> ||
> || here's the deal: if you have an a cappella version of an ig song (this
> || means an actual recorded performance of an actual group which is probably
> || campus-recognized but not funded.  this does *not* mean a recording of
> || yourself singing without guitar in the shower or in the rain, either
> || alone or with susan badass marine ;)   or if you know of an a cappella
> || version of an ig song that you don't own, email me *privately* with as
> || much of the following information as you can muster:
> ||
> || 1. name of song
> || 2. name of group; where group is from
> || 3. type of group (all-female, coed, college, pro, general style of music,
> || etc)
> || 4. length of song
> || 5. quality of song and group (is this the best group on campus?  have
> || they won awards?  what do *you* think of the song?)
> || 6. way to contact group to get whole album.
> ||
> || a quick note on #5.....i believe in quality a cappella....i'm not going
> || to automatically exclude anything if you say it's only mediocre, but if
> || there are that many covers out there i'd rather do a shorter better mix
> || than an all-inclusive one with songs that suck.
> ||
> || if all you know is that some group from brown came to your school three
> || years ago and sang *something* indigo, but you can't remember what....let
> || me know that, and i'll post all such questions to the list in a clump, or
> || try to track it down some other way.
> ||
> || ....audrey

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and book reviews.  stop in and rest awhile, then send your own profound
thoughts and inane questions to abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu.  no
purchase necessary.  personal happiness recommended but not guaranteed.

my friend says she has closer to fine on vynal which she also bought
commericially

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on fri, 24 jan 1997, marianne barlow wrote:

> on wed, 24 jan 1996, indigo jo wrote:
> >
> > i've actually heard of some vicar (over here, i think) who claims he used
> > to be gay and got 'healed', and is now married to (wait for it) a former
> > lesbian. the two of them run an organisation to do the same for other
> > young gays.
>
> hmmm....i bet they don't have much sex....
>

well it was an advert for a tv programme, which i didn't see. but the
piece didn't mention children ...

mat

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on fri, 24 jan 1997, audrey beth stein wrote:

> and marianne asked about adding good non-a cappella covers (what do you
> all think of that, if there's not enough a cappella stuff to fill both
> sides of a tape?):
>
> "strange fire" and "fugitive" -- delphinium blue mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu
>

i'm not sure about this but i might be able to persuade a group called
cyderspace (geddit?) to do a song, either closer to fine or mystery.
they are a 5-piece:  a singer (dreena), a fiddle player (claire), a
guitarist (simon), a flute/recorder player (louise) and a percussionist
(tony).   i will also probably be playing (guitar/harmonica).   they don't
know about this project, but the band sound pretty good imho.   i'll see
if i can persuade them to do it.   (we don't have any a capella groups
here, except for the elizabethan madrigal singers and i don't know what
sort of thing they sing.)    how long is it before this tape starts
getting produced?

mat

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please ignore this. this was meant only for audrey beth stein.

mat

in a message dated 97-01-24 01:37:41 est, you write:

<< censorship of any form is wrong. >>

while i agree with this statement, i find it interesting to reread the
sentance while using the word propaganda or misinformation in the place of
censorship.

my two cents

michelle

since the tea party! ok well maybe not quite *that* big but a
bash all the same. in case there are intersted folks who arent
on the little planning list, here's the scoop:

saturday, february 8, in somerville at joan ferguson's house,
hosted by joan and her so, margo, and their cat and dog.  time
to begin is 1pm.  potluck munchies and lots of that indigo
spirit.  we'll have videos, cd,s, tapes etc.  some other details
are still being worked on, but i wanted to let folks know in
case they wante dto come.  for more details, drop me a note.
for directions, contact joan at joan_ferguson@harvard.edu.

and yes, binky, there *will* be a web page :)

january 24
espizz@simons-rock.edu (erica spizz)
happy 20th, erica!!
we talked about our mothers kissing wounds of our fathers
i could've been your sister, i would've been your brother...

rmackni@acs.bu.edu (rachel)
happy 20th, rachel!!
tell you all the story, the story of my life
it's pretty short, but that don't mean it's nice
everybody le-eeaves without telling me goodbye
that's the story that's the story that's the storyyyyyy
story of my life...
(from the jo miller-laura love connection cd)

january 26
mts5@aber.ac.uk (matthew j. smith)
leaving ain't fair, fighting ain't just
people got to move on, got to do what they must
and we're baaaaaaaaaack together again...

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg

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here u go folks a ig item for you compleatest<g> only 99 cents for a cd
single of joking

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: fri, 24 jan 1997 14:21:12 -0700
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at 12:31 pm 1/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>whats on the indigo girls joking single what songs
>
>
it is just the one song. we have changed the price to $.99

second spin

actually, i subscribe to carvin guitar catalogues and they seen pretty
good.i have heard some good things about them but i always thought that
the semi-hollow accoustics didn't have a full enough sound.but maybe
thats just me.

.....on the road to austin, met a man on the high way, he sold me junk
and conversatino, he was wise and dirty from the weather...
"..is it enough to say that i want you to keep it close to me
me me is all i think think about what ever word you say
i mean anything..." 7m3

--naa27635.854130933/m4.boston.juno.com--

--------- end forwarded message ----------

obeekaybee....i found this great place where there are a bunch of ig
photos....maybe you already know of it, but i'm posting this to share
with those who don't....
ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/i/indigo.girls/pictures/
take a look...and have a good day!!
-sal
praying to calgon-god of bubbles and peace
"oooommmmm.....calgontakemeaway...ooooooommmm......bopbopdiddybop.......ooooooommmm"

hi y'all:

sorry to waste bandwidth, but i just found out that there is a lurker among
us that i know through 1 degree of separation....

ok, kathy ettle (or is it cathy eddle? )...your friend and mine mish john
from sacramento, ca just told me you're a lurker on the ig list. she said
you were downloading one night when she saw my name come up in your
inbox...she preceded to freak out 'cuz...well, 'cuz my name came up in your
inbox! the conversation went something like this:

mish: "oh my gawd! that's joni cyr! how do you know joni cyr?"
kathy: "who?"

wow. i feel so honored.

well, you can't hide behind that rock any longer kathy. show yourself girl!

now, back to our regularly scheduled programming....thanks for your patience
everyone!

joni :o)

  i was wondering, since some of you have ig connections are you able to
get the cd before any of us do? will rainy day  get them in a few weeks
early? i'm going insane here. i must here the studio versions of these
songs. if i hear one more boot with screaming fans i'm gonna lose it;)
  ben

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> > i've actually heard of some vicar (over here, i think) who claims he used
> > to be gay and got 'healed', and is now married to (wait for it) a former
> > lesbian. the two of them run an organisation to do the same for other
> > young gays.
>
> hmmm....i bet they don't have much sex....

oh, i don't know about that. they probably have plenty of sex with their
respective gay lovers. ;)

> t minus 112 days to graduation!!!

ok, nagging question. does anybody know what the "t" stands for in a "t
minus..." countdown? sorry, that's the stupidest question i could come up
with. maybe later i'll ask something stupider.

i'm being very bad today.
folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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on fri, 24 jan 1997, tracy fears wrote:

**snip> obeekaybee....**

hey, you guys remember where that saying came from?  i read it and then
felt sad because of bill cosby's son's death.  my mom drove by that spot
that day on her way home from work.  i just thought i'd say something
because it's sad and tragic and i love quotes like:
        "obeekaybee," "zrbrt," and "dad is great, gives us chocolate
cake, dad is great, gives us chocolate cake!"
        and i think that someone so cool should not have to go through
such an untimely loss.  sigh....

;) marianne

t minus 112 days to graduation!!!
(and 8 days until my application for the credential program is
due....help!!!)

marianne: that's where i got that from ..the video "bill cosby-himself"
it was sad and tragic....cosby is one of my favorites...
i hope they catch the f***er that shot his son and put him away for a
long time...
but anyway...i say "obeekaybee" a lot and i'm so used to saying it that
i forgot the connection...
-sal

at 07:27 pm 1/24/97 -0600, tracy fears wrote:
>marianne: that's where i got that from ..the video "bill cosby-himself"
>it was sad and tragic....cosby is one of my favorites...
>i hope they catch the f***er that shot his son and put him away for a
>long time...
>but anyway...i say "obeekaybee" a lot and i'm so used to saying it that
>i forgot the connection...
>-sal

ok, correct me if i'm wrong, but "obeekaybee" is from bill's cartoon "fat
albert" isn't it? i know bill also said it in the bc himself video, i think
during the dentist bit, but i think one of his characters used to say it in
"fat albert" and that was on during the 70's so it precedes the video.

flame away, but i think i'm right on this one....i watched way to much tv
during the 70's....
joni :o)

joan: you could be right...i used to watch fat albert as a kid also....i
barely remember it, but it's possible that it was also said on f.a.
:) peace, love, and calgon,
sal

>ok, correct me if i'm wrong, but "obeekaybee" is from bill's cartoon "fat
>albert" isn't it? i know bill also said it in the bc himself video, i think
>during the dentist bit, but i think one of his characters used to say it in
>"fat albert" and that was on during the 70's so it precedes the video.

yes!!! this was also said in fat albert! what a great cartoon that was!!!!
i loved the song, i used to sing it all of the time...hey,hey, hey, it's
faaat albert! wow, memories...in the corner of my mind...no, another
thought...anyway!

ok, off to some parties...rush is almost over...yes, i too am
rushing...corinne wanted to join me, but she thought that virginia was a
little far from utah...oh well, cracker jacks happen...yes i am sober, by
the way!!!

hey richmond people, are we ever going to have a super cool list get
together? i know there are several of us out there!!!!

peace and sweet potatoes...tucker

********************************
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because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
---ig
*******************************

i'm not going to say why, but i have had it up to here with this
town.....anybody got a room for rent?
praying fervently to calgon-god of peace and bubbles,
sal

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i havent gotten anything from the list most of the day is something wrong
with it

i just wanted to add a note to elena's review of wendy's show last night
(and i agree that it was great!). she will be back at genghis cantina on
feb 15 (if what she said last night was correct), so if you are in the la
(fairfax/melrose) area......just a thought. =)

take care,
sherri

ps- if i still owe you a boot and you haven't recieved it, please drop me a
note, though i just mailed some today...but a note to be sure i got yours
would be helpful (my messages got erased.....long story). =) happy friday!

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there's been many messages lately about unsuccessful attempts to
unsubscribe. here's one possible reason and solution:

you need to check what address is on the official subscribers list. if
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you are a current subscriber. although your email address may have
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you receive to your old address to your new address.

a quick example:  my email address was changed somewhat several months
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realize that mail sent to my old address would continue to be forwarded
to my new email address - so i was receiving each indigo girls message
twice.  i needed to discontinue the messages sent to my old
address...but i now had my new email address.  how do i solve this
problem?

this gets a little complicated but if you follow these instructions, you
might be successful in unsubscribing.

check to see what your address(es) are on the indigo girls server: send
this command to the listserv@netspace.org address:

review indigo-girls

the server will send you a message listing all of the subscribers'
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find your old email address. you may be listed twice. check to see
your current address and your old address.

now the fun part!

you will have to send an email to listserv@netspace.org using your web
browser - not your email software.

first, you have to change a default in your netscape software. in
netscape, go to options, mail and news preferences, identity

in the field labelled "your email", enter your old email address - the
one you are trying to eliminate from the indigo-girls server.

now, it's time to send a message - using netscape - to the
listserv@netspace.org address.

in netscape, go to file, new mail message and enter
listserv@netspace.org in the mail to field.

in the body of the message, type unsubscribe indigo-girls

if that doesn't seem to work, send another message to the
listserv@netspace.org address containing
signoff indigo-girls in the body of the message.

send the message and hope it works!

so if someone tells you that you cannot change your email address, they
are wrong! using this technique in netscape, you can have your email
address be anything you want! if you don't believe me, look at the
address of this message.

elvis

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date:         sat, 25 jan 1997 10:46:55 +0000
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on fri, 24 jan 1997, tracy fears wrote:

> obeekaybee....i found this great place where there are a bunch of ig
> photos....maybe you already know of it, but i'm posting this to share
> with those who don't....
> ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/i/indigo.girls/pictures/
> take a look...and have a good day!!

have you just found this? a few weeks ago uwp had to take their whole
archive down, because record companies had threatened them with legal
action. and when i tried ftp'ing to it just a minute ago, i got a
message saying "server not responding".

it used to contain lyrics, album photos and collections of old digests
from 1992-4, when it was still run by stephen spencer.

mat

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okay folks....there may be a problem with the site whose address i
posted...don't all shoot me at once....i know i deserve a spanking, but
it werkd fer me! sorry if anyone had problems with it......
-sal

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on fri, 24 jan 1997, tracy fears wrote:

it used to contain lyrics, album photos and collections of old digests
from 1992-4, when it was still run by stephen spencer.

mat

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went to the site (uwp. etc. etc.)

it's there and the pix look like scans of the album art. if you
can't access the uwp server an alternative might be to...

a) get all of your ig cd's or albums.

b) hold one with both hands and slowly bring it into view.

this is the closest way i can think of to approximate the experience.

no flames, please. it's very early and i'm very sensitive until i've
had my coffee.

bye!

melissa

just thought i'd let anyone who's interested know ....

ani is playing two dates in connecticut ....

march 9 - the bushnell in hartford - tix went on sale yesterday ...

april 18 - the palace in new haven - tix go on sale feb 1st

i'm going to the april 18th show - definately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

hi everyone,

first of all i want to say hello to everyone!  my modem was acting
up, and wouldn't work for the past week. it was kind of fun wading
through the hundred or so messages...  its great to be back!  ayways...i
have a question for all you tape expert people out there...i was at
costco the other day and i picked up some 100m maxell xlii-s blank
tapes.  does anyone know about the -s part?  does this mean they're a
higher quality?  i haven't opened them yet, so if they're not that great
i can take them back.

sorry for the wasted bw!
thanks for your help
andrea (not beth)

verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>
>   i was wondering, since some of you have ig connections are you able to
> get the cd before any of us do? will rainy day  get them in a few weeks
> early? i'm going insane here. i must here the studio versions of these
> songs. if i hear one more boot with screaming fans i'm gonna lose it;)
>   ben

hi!

sorry to interrupt.  i'm new to the list.  and i'd sure be interested in
the "screaming fans" boots!!  can you please let me know how i can get
my hands on one (some).  the ig river of fun stuff rarely reaches the
frozen tundra of green bay.  thanks.

scott
crispian@itol.com

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speaking of websites did u notice that lifeblood doenst have half the
stuff it used to no pictures at all

on sat, 25 jan 1997, indigo jo wrote:

> on fri, 24 jan 1997, tracy fears wrote:
>
> > obeekaybee....i found this great place where there are a bunch of ig
> > photos....maybe you already know of it, but i'm posting this to share
> > with those who don't....
> > ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/i/indigo.girls/pictures/
> > take a look...and have a good day!!
>
> have you just found this?   a few weeks ago uwp had to take their whole
> archive down, because record companies had threatened them with legal
> action.   and when i tried ftp'ing to it just a minute ago, i got a
> message saying "server not responding".
>
> it used to contain lyrics, album photos and collections of old digests
> from 1992-4, when it was still run by stephen spencer.
>
> mat
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galileo wrote:
>
> >ok, correct me if i'm wrong, but "obeekaybee" is from bill's cartoon "fat
> >albert" isn't it?  i know bill also said it in the bc himself video, i think
> >during the dentist bit, but i think one of his characters used to say it in
> >"fat albert" and that was on during the 70's so it precedes the video.
>
> yes!!!  this was also said in fat albert!  what a great cartoon that was!!!!
> i loved the song, i used to sing it all of the time...hey,hey, hey, it's
> faaat albert!  wow, memories...in the corner of my mind...no, another
> thought...anyway!

i think the dentist bit was similar to "obee kaybee" found on fat albert
but it was more like "my lip-ppbbbbb is on the floor-rppbbb." both
great bits!! (just my .02)

scott
crispian@itol.com

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on sat, 25 jan 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> speaking of websites did u notice that lifeblood doenst have half the
> stuff it used to no pictures at all
>

true, but then all those articles must take up a lot of room on the
computer systems. and let's face it, the newspapers are the people less
likely to sue the hidden water website which hosts lifeblood, since the
material is in many cases only available locally, so the papers are not
missing out on much once the article is yesterday's news. (where that's
not the case, the article appearing on lifeblood is free advertising.)

mat

in a message dated 97-01-25 11:37:31 est, mark writes:

<< speaking of websites did u notice that lifeblood doenst have half the
stuff it used to no pictures at all>>

on sat, 25 jan 1997, indigo jo wrote:

> have you just found this? a few weeks ago uwp had to take their whole
> archive down, because record companies had threatened them with legal
> action. and when i tried ftp'ing to it just a minute ago, i got a
> message saying "server not responding".
>
> it used to contain lyrics, album photos and collections of old digests
> from 1992-4, when it was still run by stephen spencer.
>
> mat
>

okay.......here is where binky goes off on one of her
free expression rants.....but i'm not gonna do it...nope ...uh, uh.
i will not succumb to conspiracy theories, and if there is
one perchance,(now it's possible that lifeblood is just under
construction...)
i will merely succumb meekly..like a good drone.
(reggasnuffa@#%#-corporate-swine-smuffanuffacruppa$%#@%)
arf wah !
beenkeeeeeeee
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gonna wash you up, and wash you down, gonna lay the devil down
gonna lay...that......devil........down ! (laura nyro )
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no, this is not a dig at the patriots (but it would be a kind gesture
if a grave were ready :)) ***

  as you know there is a new england party being planned -- at the
moment 19 people are on the address list.  because that has gotten a
bit much to type, i formed a mail exploder for the boston area
listers.  the idea is that most of the world doesn't care about our
parties and concert announcements (hey! ellis paul is playing passim
on ____!!  who wants to go?) and it would be a good idea to move that
traffic off the list at large.

right now the distribution list consists of the 19 people on the
party list, but i'd like to open this up to the list at large. i can
name at least two list regulars (harry keates and mike renoylds) and
god knows how many lurkers whom aren't on the list that may be
interested.

you can't automatically (un)subscribe -- all the management is done
maunually by me, but i'm more than happy to do it. please send me
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hey everyone,

i just wanted to say thanks to all the people who helped me out with my
guitar question. i recently purchased a jackson charvel guitar. i walked
into the store and it was screaming my name and it was at an affordable
price. maybe someday i'll be able to buy a really nice martin or something.
once again thanks to evryone-wish me luck with my lessons (i'm gonna need it).

peace,

stacey

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i think we talked about that a while ago, and i agree it sure does sound
snotty...
which reminds me of this...on the world cafe boot (which i love!  thanks
abigail!!!) is anyone else totally annoyed by the announcer?  i know some
of you out there may listen to him in your local radio
band-format-station-whatever, so i hope i'm not offending anyone, but he
just annoys the hell out of me.  like with "wow, those are some great
songs...really powerful...wow amy, that's powerful...i like the
mandoline..."  i mean, it's  not exactly what he says but how he says it
combined with the inane-ness of it all.  am i totally out of line here?
it's too bad because i love listening to this boot!  :)  ah welll....as i
like to point out to myself, not everyone is as perfect as i am!  :)
<just a little joke!  hah! sarcastic snort>

on wed, 11 sep 1996, abigail wrote:

> hey is anyone else rather bothered by a statement made before the power of
> two track on 1200 curfews by whoever the girls' interviewer was for modern
> rock live? i'm talking about when, right before they start to play, the
> announcer says, groping for an intro possibly "well let's see if that
> training paid off." (the remark followed when emily was talking about taking
> guitar lessions as a kid.) i mean, i'm sure the announcer is a really nice
> guy, and i've never listened to modern rock live, so i have no clue as to
> what he's like on the air, but how could anyone say about emily "let's see
> if that training paid off." for goodness sake, isn't obvious that her guitar

"when i say you sucked my brain out, the english translation
is i am in love with you, and it is no fun."--ani
*****gwen keyt******
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bsn class of 1997
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well, my intention was to save up enough money to rent a u-haul and have
enough to live on until i got a job whereever i was going. all i ask for
is free rent in exchange for keeping the housework done. i buy my own
food and cook my own food, you buy your food and if you want i'll cook
for you. kind of like a "real world: indigo" but without all the drama
and immaturity. this is something that i plan to carry out in about 3
months....if you're still interested, save this message and mail me
personally and we'll exchange resumes...i'm not taking any chances on
having some roommates from the twilight zone like i had before. :)
have a good one!
-sal

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also....

ani is playing in raleigh, nc on march 6....

>well i'm not sure about a new solo album, but i know her and band de soleil
>have an album coming out in october

hi everyone sorry to waste bandwidth, this message was posted in like
september, i have no clue where it came from, but i guess the album was moved
again cuz here it is january and no bds album. anyways. apologies for any
of this, it is very odd and i am very confused right now.... four months to
deliver mail... hmmmm...
later
sasha

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seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
player is....
can't wait for the flames i get from this one but its about time a long
time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
list) member of the duo..

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hi folkies,

ummm, can anybody explain why i've been sent ig list emails from september last
year? i'm normally on the digest and have received a digest post today but then
about five september 96 emails. confused? you can bet i am!! :)

i'll just assume its a wee glitch unless i hear otherwise.

ttfn

gail <-- confused and a wee bit worse the wear fur beer and whisky (well, it is
rabbie burns night and i'm scottish <bg>)

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hey all,

sorry to waste bw... but i've been away from the list for a few months
and just came back -- and the last couple digests i've received have been
from sept. 14 and 16.  can someone tell me if i'm just having a nasty
flashback or if this is really something wrong with the list?  i'm
beginning to get scared!  :)

deb alexander

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dear ig listers:

it seems my recent post concerning amy and emily's degree of friendship has
caused a bit of a ruffle. ;)

i have been a member of this list for quite some time and i _have_ read
the faq (despite what some must think <g>). it is a wonderful, accurate resource with a wide variety of
everything ig -- a big 'hooray!' goes out to everyone involved! :)

my post was not of malicious intent, nor was it meant to disregard
the faq.  i was only wondering if amy and emily consider each
other best friends -- or if they attribute that 'position' to someone
else.  perhaps they have more than one "best friend".
have they spent thanksgiving together?  do they read or watch
tv together?  have they played practical jokes on each other?  has
one of them dragged the other onto a rollercoaster six times just
because they love it so much?  that sort of thing. there are many
people on this list who may be able to offer insight or specific
instances which are not given via the media.  i was only curious as
to what 'best friend-type' activities they choose to do together when
not preparing for tours or writing new material if they consider
themselves as such.  i should have rephrased
my inquiry so as to avoid confusion.

i apologize to any i have unintentionally offended. i *promise* that
my "best buddies" post was not meant to be interpreted as a criticism
of the faq. being a member of this list is something of which i am
proud.

sincerely,
lisa j. :)

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hey tiddly winks

okay, frrrrreaking out now! why did i get the digest from spetember 15, 1996 in
my in box today? i'm sitting here reading all these posts about fall shows and
such and....wait a second, i'm hearing voices, i'm having flashbacks...i'm
truly thinking i am losing it and am going to start flopping around on the
floor and drooling any second..

sureeal! bizarre! fnarked up!

whoa.

back to your usual broadcast

susie-ta

in a message dated 97-01-25 17:56:34 est, pooh wrote:

<< can't wait for the flames i get from this one but its about time a long
time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
list) member of the duo... >>

yeah, whatever happened to emily saliers day??? we (the adoring fans of
emily) patiently enjoyed amy day. it's time we all gave emily some more
credit!!! =)

always,
mic--  who agrees totally with pooh and is a proud member (okay, and only
member)
         of the "carrie/carrie" fan club and wants to know if it's too late
to be a part of
         the susan b. marine fan club (you know, a club that actually has
fellow
         members? *veg*)
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http://members.aol.com/micfiles/title.html   "i don't know what you saw, i
want somebody who sees me."-dar williams
files@okstate.edu     micfiles@aol.com
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sorry, all. gotta be done. if your name is kim rhoades and you live in
ny, please e-mail me. i can't remember what i'm copying for you or
something like that . . .

chris

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at 05:53 pm 1/25/97 -0800, you wrote:
>seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
>taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
>jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
>player is....
>can't wait for the flames i get from this one but its about time a long
>time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
>list) member of the duo..

pooh:

imho, i don't think amy was talking about guitar lessons in general, i think
she was talking about classical guitar lessons...that it isn't necessary to
take classical guitar lessons to be a good guitarist.  i think they both
agreed that classical practice to improve your technique (and work your
hands) is beneficial, but just not necessary.  i don't think any true fan of
guitar playing would disagree that emily is more disciplined/technical a
guitarist...whether that makes her a better guitarist is up to the
listener...do you feel that hard-playing is better than techical playing?
that would be the determining factor for each of us  when considering who is
the "better" guitarist.

have a good one everyone! (btw...i'm back in beantown! go pats!)
joni :o)

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hey all you listees who said they wanted a chicago party, what is going
on?????? i asked a couple of people to contact everyone about food and
drinks and i was told that there wasn't much response. what is up??

well the party is still on. if you are coming i need people to bring
snack things and drinks... i can't provide.... tight budget this month!
if you are bringing snacks contact greg flamer at gflame@nwu.edu and let
him know what you are bringing. if you are bringing drinks contact dee
schulman at dschulman@aol.com and tell her.

one more thing..... if you want to bring videos or your guitar please do
so!  this is supose to be an indigo girls fest!  anything indigo girls
realated would be great!  if you have previously told me you are going
to make it and now can't e-mail me and let me know.  for those of you
who have already done that you don't have to do it again.

one more thing carol jones if you would contact both dee schulman and
greg flamer, for some reason your e-mail is not getting through. don't
know what is wrong....

thanks everone!

peace!

joe

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on fri, 24 jan 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:
>
> ok, correct me if i'm wrong, but "obeekaybee" is from bill's cartoon "fat
> albert" isn't it? i know bill also said it in the bc himself video, i think
> during the dentist bit, but i think one of his characters used to say it in
> "fat albert" and that was on during the 70's so it precedes the video.

you're probably right, but i'm a child of the 80's and the first time i
ever heard obeekaybee was when there was some episode of the cosby show
when rudy's friend "bud" didn't want to go to the dentist and bill was
talking like his lips were on novocaine to try to make him laugh. yes,
i'm a baby....

;) marianne

t minus 112 days to graduation!!!
(and 8 days until my application for the credential program is
due....help!!!)

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hi, my name is meghan gravander. i am a student at clarkson university
in upstate ny.  i have been a big fan for many years, but i regret that
i have never had the chance to see you in concert.  i have always wanted
to so badly, but i could never get a hold of a list of tour dates, and
if i ever saw where you were going to be playing, it was too far away.
i know that mostly everything is far away up here.  you should come up
here and do a show.  we have 4 colleges in a 10 mile radis.  you should
think about it.  that would me sooooo cool.  well if you could tell me
where i could find a listing of the scheduled tour dates for '97, i
would be most thankful.  thanks for your time.
your friend,
meghan gravander
clarkson universtiy
gravanme@draco.clarkson.edu

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reply-to:     tracy - bounding to a new email address <trace@wolfenet.com>
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        as of today i have finally left my evil pnw ppp provider, and have
joined with a cool pnw one who's domain even lets me be "@wolfenet"  !!
cool, huh!!  anyhow, i have a new address and anyone who cares, please
change your cyber-address-books.  anyone who does not care... you would not
have gotten this far most likely, but wage peace and have a good day anyhow.

guilt boot waitees: all the ones we received prior to wednesday are
done and out. (except for one that did not enclose any postage, but rather
cash for postage... sadly, though we received it and completed the tape last
week, we have yet to have a chance to get to the p.o.!!!) all we have
received since are currently sitting on our counter in the place we put mail
until we have time to actually look at it, and we will get those done by
monday night, and out tuesday at the latest.

nowadays my 'puter starts up with amy saying, "bout time!!" and
shuts down with amy saying, "you can sleep, it's okay!"

tracy <looking all over for good pics to download for her desktop... am
bored with gillian>

"nothing like a bad decision...
says who you are."
- gin blossums

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at 01:40 pm 1/25/97 -0800, gwen wrote:
>i think we talked about that a while ago, and i agree it sure does sound
>snotty...

this is funny! i posted this waaay back in september, but for some reason
some random messages from sept. seem to have been resent over the list. oh
well, enjoy the thread again everyone. :)

~abigail~

"when i was 15, oh i knew it was over, the road to enchantment was not mine
to take..."

~dar williams

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not that it is such a big deal, but why is it that i am getting old messages
from 11/16/96? is this odd? i know someone else posted about this. i
think it is kind of funny, but what is up?
hope everyone had a great weekend!
ttfn!
peace and indigo nights(or mornings should i say)!
tucker

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okay, newbies (and oldies) gather round!! here's an incredible boot
offer to whet you appetites. nojf 5-4-96 with ig's, joan baez, michelle
malone, michael lorant (playing whistle and accordian, i do believe), sheila
doyle, gabe baez (?), sandy garfinkel... and a bunch of beautiful fanatics!
my first ig concert and i *really* don't think it gets much better than
this!!!!! @:-}}

songs: thin line, wood song, this train revised, power of two, don't give
that girl a gun, least complicated, nashville, get out the map, chiapas
bound, closer to fine, shame on you, crazy game, tried to be true, galileo,
don't think twice, wild horses, finlandia

here's the deal.... the first five persons to correctly answer all 10
questions below, i will send you a copy of that 90 min. tape for free.  i'll
buy the tape and i'll pay for the postage.  for the first person who
responds correctly the *fastest* will also receive a free copy of the modern
rock live interview 8-23-94.
        i will post the answers to all the questions and the winners in
about a week.

tony
questions (10)

#1      amy's chickenman song -
        amy said, "i wrote this song when i was thinking about":
        a) all the wonder and the amazement
        b) all these spare parts you see lying in the middle of the road
        c) all these spare parts left over from the chicken i just cut up
        d) the edge of death

#2      as a kid, who did emily dress up as?
        a) elvis
        b) keith partridge
        c) mary magdalene
        d) michael jackson

#3      amy's chickenman song -
        on the road to athens, i saw a:
        a) dead deer
        b) dead person
        c) median cat
        d) five prarie dogs and a rabbit

#4      a capo is:
        a) the latest coffee beverage
        b) a hat
        c) a marijuana cigarette
        d) a musical apparatus

#5      the chickenman is:
        a) aka the big bird
        b) located on the road to abilene
        c) really cool looking
        d) really michael lorant
        e) a figment of amy's imagination

#6      on the side of the road, the chickenman was trying to sell amy:
        a) books
        b) cameras
        c) binoculars
        d) old motorcycle parts
        e) none of the above

#7      emily has a:
        a) lyrical voice
        b) nice smile
        c) penchant for peace and justice
        d) lickety-split guitar hand
        e) all of the above

#8      emily was born at:
        a) atlanta, ga
        b) houston, texas
        c) new haven, ct
        d) new york, ny

#9      true or false:
        amy's tattoo is a sioux indian symbol for love inside a hand, and
basically             means love.

#10 what year did ig's win a grammy award?

good luck!!!! indifans

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       i yam what i yam and that's all that i yam!             r
i                                                               l
g               -popeye (the sailor man)                        s
o

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>why am i getting these old, messages?? i am not subscribed

there are 4 messages totalling 93 lines in this issue.
>
>topics of the day:
>
>  1. fodder for the song ??
>  2. another item for sale...
>  3. wild horses (revised)
>  4. make it easier
>
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>
>date:    tue, 27 aug 1996 20:12:59 -0700
>from:    dragonman <djarrell@ix16.ix.netcom.com>
>subject: re: fodder for the song ??
>
>at 02:10 pm 8/26/96 edt, denise wrote:
>>looking for this recording but can't seem to find it on the set lists
>>for any of the ejs records.  if anyone knows where i can find it,
>>please let me know.  thanks,
>
>this would be on the incredible "reluctantly we" cd.  i highly recommend
>it's purchase.  if you like harder, electric stuff with great lyrics, this
>is for you.  and if you want to hear amy go sick long before tmf and
>chickenman, you definitely gotta hear "god in heaven"!
>
>btw, if virginia woolf were really writing to the list, i am guessing she
>would spell her own name correctly.  :-)
>
>whatever,
>
>:dwayne
>
>djarrell@ix.netcom.com
>"it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town,
> but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound"
> -amy ray
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>
>date:    tue, 27 aug 1996 23:46:04 -0400
>from:    atlmouse@aol.com
>subject: re: another item for sale...
>
>welcome to the list of people who've flamed me today!!!!
>have you also flamed perry at rainy day records for selling autographs?
>why don't you give him a call...
>~~robin
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>
>date:    tue, 27 aug 1996 23:35:14 gmt
>from:    patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
>subject: wild horses (revised)
>
>here are a few revisions to heidi's post from the rolling stones lyric book:
>
>the first line is:
>childhood living is easy to do
>
>and the last verse starts out:
>i know i've dreamed you a sin and a lie
>i have my freedom but i don't have much time
>
>don't ya love ig doing this song.  maybe michelle and amy will sing it on
>"map".  i can't wait!!!
>
>rob
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>date:    tue, 27 aug 1996 23:37:22 gmt
>from:    patricia hite <phite@cybergate.net>
>subject: make it easier
>
>i have this one live on the chapel hill boot from 1987.  those of you
>interested in trading, mail me!!  i loooove to trade.  speaking of which,
>sarah, please mail me!!!!
>
>have an indigo day!!
>
>rob
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hello everyone,

my apologies if this has been mentioned before, but did anyone notice that
michael lorant's name seems to be misspelled when he's identified in the
watershed video? or maybe it's just the handwriting. and that the person
identified as "sandy garfinkel" is not actually sandy garfinkel? or am i the
one who's confused. sorry to nitpick, but waiting for the new album can do
that to you. :)

>seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
>taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
>jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
>player is....

this is sort of a "me too" post, i think, because what struck me about the
po2 intro was exactly what pooh mentioned -- amy herself has often
acknowledged who the better player in the duo is :), and her remark came off
to me as being a bit defensive ... i think the guy was just looking for a
segue, and was taking off from amy's comment.

>its about time a long
>time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
>list) member of the duo..

or maybe we emily people are just kinda quiet and low-key ... :). it would
be nice if we spoke up more often, though -- would balance to the list out a
bit more, imho.

fire extinguisher ready,

anna ii

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hello again,

is there any kind soul out there who speaks fluent spanish and would be
willing to help me translate some documents? i am doing research for an
article i am writing about the situation in chiapas, but don't know enough
spanish to fully understand some of the material. any help would be greatly
appreciated ... please e-mail me privately. thanks very much!

anna

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at 05:53 pm 1/25/97 -0800, pooh wrote:
>seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
>taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
>jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
>player is....
>can't wait for the flames i get from this one but its about time a long
>time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
>list) member of the duo..
>
bravo pooh!!! you must be referring to the mrl interview??

i agree that amy seems to edge out em in popularity on this list.  yet, i
don't think that means em is underappreciated.  emily is clearly the guitar
virtuoso imho, yet amy has the vocals and the zeal and the *intensity*!!!!!
nonetheless, i do not think either gurl alone could reach anywhere near the
levels of the ig's.
        and doesn't that really speak to one of their main themes (i.e.
working together, gettin' along, etc...) b/c often the best thangs come from
those moments when we create and share with one another, don't cha think????
        btw speakin' of sharin' i'm in your deepest gratitude for the recent
boots pooh, jude, margot, tamara, and chris ii(?).  i luv ya all!

         ...and when this heart and flesh shall fail
        and mortal life shall cease
        i shall possess within the vale
        a life of joy and peace....

da chickenman

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i thought the exact same thing when i first heard it, though i figured i was
probably the only one. glad i'm not. i thought, "amy's great on the guitar
but emily's the one who should be saying it's not necessary to take lessons.
she's the better of the two on guitar." so i figured maybe amy was just a
tad jealous. i know i would be. it was good of emily not to interject
anything there. personally, i might have said, "well how would you know?"
because if i had emily's talent, my ego would be bigger than my house. that
just shows how humble emily is i guess :)

jendy (who will defend emily's great ability to the death)

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> check to see what your address(es) are on the indigo girls server: send
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on sat, 25 jan 1997, pooh wrote:

> seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
> taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
> jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
> player is....

i always laugh when i hear that interview, when amy says "it's not
necessary though ...".   i mean, amy's guitar playing is *very* limited,
which means that she has less of a contribution to make to the overall
sound.   some of emily's most memorable guitar-playing is on amy's songs
(eg. the live version of dead man's hill), whereas on many of emily's
(mystery and language or the kiss being prime examples) amy plays a very
minor role, a kind of simon nicol to emily's richard thompson.   on many
of them amy doesn't even seem to have a comment to make (on the liner
notes to 1200c) ...

mat

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what am i suppose to do with all these pictures i took of the
legos at mall of america????

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anna said:
>
> or maybe we emily people are just kinda quiet and low-key ... :). it would
> be nice if we spoke up more often, though -- would balance to the list out a
> bit more, imho.
>
> fire extinguisher ready,
>
> anna" hear hear!!!maybe we just don't have that old tortured angst
needed...but then..i kinda like to "look before i leap"..got into way too
much trouble that way..
think i'll stick with emilys' introspection anyday..

flame away..( i know you will..the angst in you just can't keep y'all
quiet..lordy lordy , you should read the hate posts i got when i
mentioned i thought amy was jealous of emilys' quitar playing!!)
pooh( who loves to stir things up every now and then)

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bates college lewiston me -- march 16 -- small venue if you are willing to
travel -- better than the orpheum in boston ...
mike r.

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i agree that amy sounds way defensive when she says "it's not necessary."
it seems like she's pretty sensitive about her guitar playing skills. last
year when she came to a guitar master class that i was at, she told us
that she actually considers herself "handicapped" as far as guitar playing
goes b/c she can't play lead, and she told us she can't play bar chords
either (though i don't think that's totally true). she said she's totally
undisciplined when it comes to playing; she never practices, she just
plays when she needs an emotional outlet. she said that she basically
plays b/c it's _necessary_ for her. anyway, just thought i'd share.
julie

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hola!

does anyone remember who it was that created an ig video compilation?
how did it turn out? who should i ask about the possibility of sending
for a copy?

thanks! :)

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hello everyone!

pooh wrote (& i did a bit of snipping):
>..lordy lordy , you should read the hate posts i got when i
>mentioned i thought amy was jealous of emilys' quitar playing!!)

this is going on a tangent from the original topic, but i find it
interesting that people would flame you for saying this, since amy herself
has said, publicly and often (i can dig up dates and places if people really
want), that emily is the better player. "i am astonished at what she is able
to do," amy said in one interview. and that one big reason they weren't
friends in elementary school is that amy was, in fact, jealous (that's the
exact word she used) of emily's ability. i understand joan's point about
having to define what one means by "better," and that we all have our own
subjective standards, but i guess by whatever criteria amy uses, emily
qualifies as the "better" player. i personally wouldn't limit the scope of
emily's talent and skill to her being more disciplined or technical ... i
actually think of her guitar leads as being like those socs that amy does.
she just expresses herself differently.

i think the fact that amy gave emily a whole new instrument (a dulcimer),
for her birthday, and expected her to learn how to play it in a span of 2 or
3 weeks, is a testament to her respect for, and faith in, emily's gifts as a
musician.

but then, isn't that the remarkable thing about the duo? they seem to
complement each other so well. in my humble opinion, neither of them should
be underrated -- and at the same time, each one's strengths should also be
graciously acknowledged, whichever girl you happen to be more drawn to. :)

still keeping the extinguisher handy,

anna (who thinks amy is great, too!)

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ok, now i have to say something in defense of amy and the whole po2
controversy.  i think that no one would really question emily's incredible
gift with the guitar, or that of the two, emily is the better guitar
player.  i mean, amy has said that em is the better player, and amy even
thanks em for "sharing the gift" in the liner notes of ig.  also, i kind
of remember reading or hearing in an interview, i'm not sure which one,
i'm not even 100% sure that this interview exists, although it sounds
awfully realistic to me.  anyway, i remember that the whole relationship
between emily and amy seemed to have been forged in the starts because of
all of the little coinkidinks, for example, they both started playing
guitar around the same time and they both took guitar lessons at the ywca
around the same time.  does this sound familiar to anyone?  anyway, so i
think that both amy and emily took lessons.  on the modern rock live show,
the caller asks if they were *classically* trained, so emily answers...
(y'all know the schmeal).  to me, the question implies the question that
emily seems to answer, lessons playing classical guitar.  not guitar
lessons in general.  so, i think amy has a valid point when she says,
"it's not necessary."  she's just saying that you don't need to have
taken classical guitar lessons in order to play guitar or to say that you
can play the guitar.  kind of gives all of us hope, imo.
secondly, about the world cafe interviewer.  maybe this is just the
cynical nyer coming out in me, but i thought that he was pretty damn
annoying.  don't y'all just *love* the way he asks them about newport?
"soo, uuuuuummmmmm, you played newport again this year?"  makes me shake
my head every time i hear it.  anyway, i will get off my little soapbox
right now so i'll have time to put on my flame-retardant uniform...

veronica

btw, just for the record, i am an emily person, too, very much so, but the
chickenman was right in saying that they're just so much better together.

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hey all,

first, thanks to all who sent words of encouragement about the september
digest thing - it's good to be back :)

> jealous there if you ask me..after all..we all know who the better guitar
> player is....
> can't wait for the flames i get from this one but its about time a long
> time emily fan stood up for the underappreciated ( or so it seems on this
> list) member of the duo..

pooh, i've even read interviews where amy openly says stuff like "i suck,
i'm a bad guitar player"!!!  of course, i still think that amy is the most
passionate person on the face of this planet (mho of course), but i have
to agree with you that emily's guitar playing is "better" for whatever that
means.  emily is the reason i started playing guitar, but so far i'm best
at playing amy songs.  what can i say?  :)

debbie, who barely has time to listen to music anymore anyway... :(

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  i finally finished up my ani collection. i think i have every one of
her cd's now. last night i bought "imperfectly" and before this album i
have never found a reason to criticize ani. but i've never found any of
ani's albums slightly offensive before.
   i think for the first time ani has taken feminism to the extreme.
after every song i had to say to myself "ani, get over it! all men are
not all ego maniacs who want to control the world." i felt incredibly
left out by her music. in fact one if her lyrics says "i just hope some woman
will listen to my music and help her through her day." notice who she
doesn't include men, like we can't relate to her music. i guess we're
just too damn busy taking over the world to listen.
   so, it just makes me appreciate ig even more. their music is just so
universal and don't leave anyone out. so, as much as i still love ani,
noone can touch a&e.
   ok i'm done. you may commence flaming, if necessary.
ben
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there is no future. there is no past. i live each moment as my last."
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anna hidalgo wrote:
>
or maybe we emily people are just kinda quiet and low-key ... :). it
would
be nice if we spoke up more often, though -- would balance to the list
out a bit more, imho.
>

i know the faq's said to wait a couple of weeks before you post, but i
had to jump in on this one.

this may be sacrilege, but i have to admit that my own hand-made
compilation tapes of "emily songs" get a little more play-time than the
whole cd's. it seems that i have to be in the mood to digest the amy
songs, but the soundtrack of my everyday life is typically the emily
saliers songbook.

btw, i am wearing flameretardant clothing : )

scott
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>
i be guessin' that my grammer not be doin' so good in this here post.
ben

> their music is just so universal and don't leave anyone out.
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as far as amy's "it's not neccessary" comment, i've always taken that to
have simply been advice to future guitar players. emily had acknowledged
that she took lessons "for my dad, really" and i don't think amy was being
at all defensive, just reminding people that you can go a long way by simply
self-teaching.

:) abigail

>at 05:53 pm 1/25/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>seems to me the guy made the comment after amy mentioned that
>>taking guitar lessons really wasn't neccessary...hmmm..a teeny bit
>>jealous there if you ask me..
"when i was 15, oh i knew it was over, the road to enchantment was not mine
to take..."

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i thought everyone might be interested to know that i'm pledging phi sigma
sigma! the people there are really cool, & i think it will be a lot of
fun.

andi

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in the interview with the silly world cafe man, amy says she used her year
off to "learn how to play the guitar". for my money, emily's stuff is
more immediately accessible, amy's a little more "flinty" (to borrow from
darlist) and more purist-activist-raw-emotion which can be a little more
difficult to get into immediately. neither is better, to me.

on sun, 26 jan 1997, deborah alexander/jmc2000 wrote:

> hey all,
>
> first, thanks to all who sent words of encouragement about the september
> digest thing - it's good to be back :)
> pooh, i've even read interviews where amy openly says stuff like "i suck,
> i'm a bad guitar player"!!!  of course, i still think that amy is the most
> passionate person on the face of this planet (mho of course), but i have
> to agree with you that emily's guitar playing is "better" for whatever that
> means.  emily is the reason i started playing guitar, but so far i'm best
> at playing amy songs.  what can i say?  :)

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sorry for all this nigc stuff, but i'm reading _fried green tomatoes at the
whistle stop cafe_ for my writing class, & i remember that there was a
thread about ruth and idgie's relationship a while ago. if anyone has any
of those posts saved, or has any insight on their relationship, please
e-mail me. thanks...

andi

in a message dated 1/26/97 5:37:30 pm, mat wrote:

<<i always laugh when i hear that interview, when amy says "it's not
necessary though ...".   i mean, amy's guitar playing is *very* limited,
which means that she has less of a contribution to make to the overall
sound.   some of emily's most memorable guitar-playing is on amy's songs
(eg. the live version of dead man's hill), whereas on many of emily's
(mystery and language or the kiss being prime examples) amy plays a very
minor role, a kind of simon nicol to emily's richard thompson.   on many
of them amy doesn't even seem to have a comment to make (on the liner
notes to 1200c) ...>>

okay.  i've been quiet too long.  first, i'm a huge emily person, & i try to
play like her (in my dreams, i know), and 2, i agree with the comments about
the list being predominantly amy folks.  but, i have to defend amy here.
never underestimate the value of a rhythm player.  "less of a contribution
to make to the overall sound"?!?!?  mat, she's half the overall sound!  no,
she doesn't play a flashy lead, but without her neither could emily.  rhythm
guitar is much harder than it looks (they are professionals, after all, so,
don't you kids going trying this at home without adult supervision).

dee

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guess these are off a page somewhere

3/4 joseph myerhoff symphony hall (baltimore, md)

3/5 the carpenter center (richmond, va)

3/6 the ritz (raleigh, nc)

3/9 the bushnell (hartford, ct)

3/11 the state theatre (new brunswick, nj)

3/13 memorial auditorium (burlington, vt)

3/15 providence perf. arts center (providence, ri)

3/16 grey cage (lewiston, me)

3/21 the capitol theatre (port chester, ny)

3/22 landmark theatre (syracuse, ny)

3/23 auditorium center (rochester, ny)

4/3 lakewood civic center (lakewood, oh)

4/4 louisville memorial auditorium (louisville, ky)

4/5 newport music hall (columbus, oh)

4/6 wharton center for the perf. arts (east lansing, mi)

4/10 the virginia theatre (champaign, il)

4/12 the rave (milwaukee, wi)

4/13 egyptian room, murat centre (indianapolis, in)

4/18 the palace theatre (new haven ct)

4/19 vassar college chapel (poughkeepsie, ny)

4/20 field house (durham, nh)

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i noticed the april 10 virginia theatre date for ani difranco included in
your post on ani tour dates.
tickets for the show go on sale monday, february 3. they can be obtained
by calling the ticket office at: (217)356-9063 or by sending check, money
order or credit info (including account number and expiration date) to:
the virginia theatre
203 west park ave.
champaign, il 61824
tickets are $17 each and visa/mastercard is accepted.
additional info about this show can be obtained from calling the virginia
or through private e-mail to my address.
this will be ani's first visit to champaign, il which is a quick 2 hours
from chicago and indianapolis, 3 hours from st louis, and an easy drive
from most parts via major highways.
hope to see a lot of folks from this list in champaign..let's give ani a
sell-out!

hello, all!
      i realise that i have been a bad, bad girl... not posting or replying
to e-mail or sending out harry's boots... (this week.)  now i come back to
you asking for a favour?  aye, tis true... what i really want to know is if
there's anyone out there in nashville who has a spare couch or something
around the 21st... there's an event i'd like to attend that night and i don't
think my friend and i would be up to the drive home that night, nor do we
have the money for a hotel room... there's a daemon records concert thing
happening, and it won't be over until 1 or 2, i don't think, after which i
guess we'd sleep and then be out of the way in the morning... what a thing to
ask, i know, but, believe me, when i am in a position to offer, any of you
will be welcome to crash at my place (here in atlanta) at any time. =)
anyhow, tis all for this post... peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

hello, again!
okay, personally, i'm not really into dave and his band, but a friend
of mine is... i was curious if any dave fans out there wanted to trade boots.
from the looks of it he has a lot of them and wants more, so anyone
interested just write to me and i'll give you his address. =) pace, love,
and alaska, sarah

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ok..quit with the flames..can't y'all take a joke..there is way too much
angst on the list...of course amy is just as talanted and creative and
inportant as emily..if not there would be no indigo girls..i just felt
the need every now and then to get those "introspective" emily folks out
of the woodwork and rooting for our hero...after all..its tough being in
the vocal minority( oh did i mention..i like the way em sings better
too.......as i duck!)
so you can quit flaming me( at least the posts y'all send to the list are
polite..the stuff i've been gettin privately..let me just say
this..lighten up)..no need for you to be quite defensive..after all..amy
can do that well enough by herself...hahahahahahahahah...joke kids..just
a joke..
pooh( who carries around a portable extinguisher these days.)

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i haven't read my email in a while, so sorry this is a late reply,

on sun, 19 jan 1997, andi wrote:

> yes, i'm rushing, but i swear i'm not going to turn into a sorority chick!
> but anyway, i walked into kappa alpha theta today, & galileo was on!  theta
> is known for stereotypically being full of those typical sorority chicks,
> so i thought it was so cool that they liked ig...i thought i was imagining
> it at first!  and then during their slide show, joking came on!  ig in a
> sorority...woohoo!  and the people i talked to were really cool.  but
> anyway, i just thought i would share this fun ig-in-a-random-place story w/
> all of you... :)

i have a friend who is kappa alpha theta at ku and she is a huge ig
fan, i recently emailed her about this list so she could join. girls
love ig, and a sorority is full of girls, so it all sort of makes
sense, doesn't it... (no, i'm not in a srat.) good luck andi.

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listees,
    why do we have to compare the igs to each other, arguing who's the
best.  the igs work together as a team, and i think that it is
disrespectful to attempt to say which one of them is more talented than
the other.  they both have multiple talents, which i feel compliment
each other.  as a big emily fan, i am sick of hearing about everyone's
crushes on amy and how emily, in your opinion, might have looked bad on
david letterman.  i'm not trying to be a mean person, i just think that
i am really ready for their new cd to come out and their touring to
start so that we will have something else to discuss than stuff that
doesn't really matter.

:) amber - you can flame me, but i had to vent my steam--woo, and i feel
better now.

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i have this screen saver too, but it locks my computer up to where i
have to restart the darn thing..any suggestions? i love to use it, but
it's a pain to restart your computer every time you want to use it. (i
also found it in a bargin bin at best buy).
karen :-)

> hi, i have that same screen saver, have had it for quite a few years, i also
> bought it in a discount bin and have not seen it since. i also have a really
> cool ellen d. saver, it comes on her cd taste this.
> donna

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i'd like to second this request. if anyone is still willing to make a copy
of on the road to austin i'd be very appreciative. thanks in advance.

~abigail

"when i was 15, oh i knew it was over, the road to enchantment was not mine
to take..."

~dar williams

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> i walked into kappa alpha theta today, & galileo was on!

>i have a friend who is kappa alpha theta at ku and she is a huge ig
>fan,

hey, just to let everyone know, i am now a pledge of kappa alpha theta!
just a little peek into my life...i know you were all just dying to know.

about the amy vs emily thing...i love them both!!! i have come to realize
that i am a fan of both, because they both make up ig. remember...a+e=ig.
hey pooh, please take off that flame gear, i love ya, and don't think anyone
should flame you for your opinion!!! =)
remember peace everyone!
love ya all
tucker

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because you'd cry your eyes out
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ok... i am going to go out on a limb here. i have been on the list for
several months, occasionally posting, but mostly lurking. i love the
people on it, with all their little inside jokes and the friendly jibes
and the occasional (sometimes frequent) nigc posts that someone thinks
someone else might enjoy or benefit from. i also love how candid people
are--talking about their failed relationships or how they feel about
their sexuality. or about which girl they like more, and why. i'm
rambling... basically, i don't understand why someone telling the way
they feel about the indigo girls' music, frankly and not maliciously,
would make them the target of unnecessary, mean emails. i guess i just
try to go by "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at
all." of course people do/say things on the list that annoy or anger
me--that doesn't mean that i have to tell them that. one of the problems
with this list being a "list," and not simply a group of people meeting
face-to-face to discuss music, is that it is very easy to be cruel and
not really have to take responsibility for needlessly hurting people's
feelings. if we all just thought, "do i need to send this?" or "would i
be embarrassed if other people knew i wrote this to this person?" or
"would i say this to this person's face?" before flaming, the internet
would be a much more pleasant place. sad as it is, i know that _someone_
will read this entire post and flame me for it.

also not understanding why people _flame_ (as opposed to inform) newbies
for not reading the faq,
jenn. brown

ps i know i probably should have put a nigc warning in the subject, but i
wanted as many listees as possibly to read this.

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ok, i keep hearing all this talk about the digest version of the list.
i haven't even heard of it, how do i get one?

in a message dated 97-01-26 15:31:06 est, tony tcm writed:

<< #2      as a kid, who did emily dress up as?
         a) elvis
         b) keith partridge
         c) mary magdalene
         d) michael jackson
  >>

well i have rare archival proof that she actually dressed up
as ..... danny partridge, and then some.... ;)

(heh, heh)
don't beee leeeve me eh ?????
well just go here :
http://members.aol.com/astroliz/ptr.htm

yay for tony t.c.m !!!! deeelite-full dee-licious dee-lovely !!!!!!!
:):):)
binky boo
humor : 2: quality of being laughably ludicrous or incongruous.

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all i have to say is i'd much rather hear about how ppl feel about "amy
vs. emily" than how they feel about amy and emily's belly buttons.
;) a little flashback,
julie

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> okay.  i've been quiet too long.  first, i'm a huge emily person, & i try to
> play like her (in my dreams, i know), and 2, i agree with the comments about
> the list being predominantly amy folks.  but, i have to defend amy here.
>  never underestimate the value of a rhythm player.  "less of a contribution
> to make to the overall sound"?!?!?  mat, she's half the overall sound!  no,
> she doesn't play a flashy lead, but without her neither could emily.  rhythm
> guitar is much harder than it looks (they are professionals, after all, so,
> don't you kids going trying this at home without adult supervision).
>
> dee

i agree with dee completely. i mean, sure amy's songs are simpler chord
progression-wise, but let's not forget that amy has to learn emily's songs
as well, and watershed is no easy task even for rhythm. i used to think
amy was merely cosmetic in the guitar aspect of them, but i've lightened
up a little.

on a side note, i was flipping through an issue of (i think it was) guitar
player magazine, and it was the one with the 100 greatest guitar players
of all time.  well guess what, no emily.  i was about ready to write them
a letter of complaint.  in fact, there were no women at all in the list.
yeah sure, the industry is infused with male guitarists, but that is
definitely not a prerequisite to being proficient at it.  grrr...

ok, enough.
wendell

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hi all!

it's been awhile since i've posted, but i'm back now (aren't just aquiver
with excitement?). i just wanted to let you all know that i'm *trying* to
set up a web page and i'm looking for fun and interesting links to
include on it. personal pages of fellow litees, sites with ig info or
other cool music stuff, lesbigay, women's issues, humor. whatever. you
get the idea. tips, pointers, hints and ideas are very welcome as this is
my first attempt at creating a page. thanks in advance!

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warning: the following is a joke. resist temptation to flame. all
flames will be forwarded to sender's box ad infinitum, go get your senses
of humor out of storage.

well, i just gotta say one thing.  isn't improvisational guitar superior
than any classical training one may or may not have achieved?  i mean,
come on kids.  i've made a lot of money eeking out single-string versions
of popular ig medleys in downtown ann arbor.  who needs lessons, anyway?

chris ii

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hello fellow ig fans,
   it's been a while since my last post and i feel now is a good time.  i
myself am an indigo girls person as opposed to an amy or emily person.  i
can understand when people say they are one or the other cause i kinda used
to be an emily person but two things happened. 1) i realized that its the
two of them together that produce the awesome music we all love.  the songs
they write, the music they play, the way they sing so well together...i love
both of them together. 2) watching live at the uptown lounge and seeing amy
put all her heart in to blood and fire made me really appreciate what she
brings to the indigo girls.  i think the fact that this list exists shows
that neither amy nor emily are underappreciated.  we are all here cause we
love the indigo girls and there wouldn't be any indigo girls if it wasn't
for both of them. well, thats my two cents. i'd be happy to hear any
responses either privately or to the list.
hoping to hear from "y'all" soon,
david

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ok ya'll i know this is nigc, but i think that
there is always alot of private and public flaming going
on 'round here, and i thought i'd take a moment to make you
smile.. i know i've been flamed for my lil bits and two pennies
(even when i said they were my opinions) so take this and giggle
and smile and try to have a brighter day... and remember, whould you
want something not so happy sent to you ???
love and indigo
anjeanette (fromage tete!!!) and original cheesehead
>
> >>forwarded from another listserv as the laugh of the day:
> >>
> >>i shot a query into the net
> >>
> >>i shot a query into the net.
> >>i haven't got an answer yet,
> >>but seven people gave me hell
> >>and said i ought to learn to spell;
> >>
> >>a posted message called me rotten
> >>for ignoring mail i'd never gotten;
> >>an angry message asked me, please
> >>don't send such drivel overseas;
> >>
> >>a lawyer sent me private mail
> >>and swore he'd slap my ass in jail --
> >>i'd mentioned un*x in my gem
> >>and failed to add the t and m;
> >>
> >>one netter thought it was a hoax:
> >>"hereafter, post to net dot jokes!";
> >>another called my grammar vile
> >>and criticized my writing style.
> >>
> >>each day i scan each subject line
> >>in hopes the topic will be mine;
> >>i shot a query into the net.
> >>i haven't got an answer yet ...
> >>
> >>have a happy new year, everyone!!
> >>
> >
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and don't forget, osaka japan on feb. 22nd! i'll be there (and so will
maren)!!!

>guess these are off a page somewhere
>
>
>3/4     joseph myerhoff symphony hall  (baltimore, md)
>
>3/5     the carpenter center  (richmond, va)
>
>3/6     the ritz  (raleigh, nc)
>
>3/9     the bushnell  (hartford, ct)
>
>3/11   the state theatre  (new brunswick, nj)
>
>3/13   memorial auditorium  (burlington, vt)
>
>3/15   providence perf. arts center  (providence, ri)
>
>3/16   grey cage  (lewiston, me)
>
>3/21   the capitol theatre  (port chester, ny)
>
>3/22   landmark theatre  (syracuse, ny)
>
>3/23   auditorium center  (rochester, ny)
>
>4/3     lakewood civic center  (lakewood, oh)
>
>4/4     louisville memorial auditorium  (louisville, ky)
>
>4/5     newport music hall  (columbus, oh)
>
>4/6     wharton center for the perf. arts  (east lansing, mi)
>
>4/10   the virginia theatre  (champaign, il)
>
>4/12   the rave  (milwaukee, wi)
>
>4/13   egyptian room, murat centre  (indianapolis, in)
>
>4/18   the palace theatre  (new haven ct)
>
>4/19   vassar college chapel  (poughkeepsie, ny)
>
>4/20   field house  (durham, nh)
>
>
>mike r.
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hey...
        i was gone all last semester in paris, and to come back and hear
that a new cd is all but on the music store shelves makes me extremely happy.
seriously, though, touring?!?  i'm going through some major withdrawal here!
but, that's why it's a good thing i'm a patient girl.
        anyway, my sister was kind enough to record an interview that shawn
clovin gave of the indigo girls after their release of nis.  it's about
45 minutes long or so, and includes them talking along with some random
live tracks from concerts.  it's pretty damn awesome if you don't mind me
saying.  sooooooooo...the question is: would anyone consider trading me
a boot for this???  anyone?!?  if interested, please email me privately.

oh, and by the way, i've been off this list for about 8 months, and
it's kind of annoying that the same things are being discussed...amy vs.
emily.....sheesh. don't mean to offend anyone, but.......i don't know.
it's a valid discussion, just sort of like beating a dead horse after a while.
kinda reminded me (i can't believe i'm gonna compare ig to this...) of
turning on a soap opera after a few months unhooked from it, and realizing
that not all that much has changed because they drag the freaking story-line
out forever.......

just thought i'd share. a bientot,
lesley

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i've been getting a lot of feedback on my wanting to move....which is
really sweet and i thank you all...but what about this idea:
let's say we write to mtv and ask them to do a real world on people that
know each other from the internet to move into a house and do something
like help build houses for habitat for humanity or something along those
lines...and our reward would be meeting ig. i know this sounds like a
kramer-ish idea...but i just thought i'd share with those that don't
avoid mtv like the plague (like i was once told condescendingly by a
pal).
what do y'all think?
by the way, if this gets started, i'd better be the first on the list to
move in 'cause it was my idea! *laughs*
have a good one!
-sal

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help! i forgot to save the questions....can anybody send me the ten
questions to answer for the free igno boot???? thanks a mil...
-sal

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at 10:08 pm 1/26/97 -0800, pooh wrote:
> oh did i mention..i like the way em sings better too.......as i duck!)

        now that's going too far!!!  i respectfully disagree with your
opinion, if it is made as a broad statement.
        emily is lead guitar and amy is lead vocals. of course, emily can
hit those superhuman high notes, i grant you that :}  now i haven't set down
and counted exactly which one leads vocal on all the songs (although i'm
certain someone else out there has!), but i know there are a number of emily
songs where amy leads the vocals.  and i can't really think of any amy songs
that emily leads vox on.
        not only does amy have that intense gusto-ey voice, but she also has
a remarkably beatiful mellow voice as well, as evidenced by you left it up
to me and chiapas bound.  her gusto stuff would certainly include blood and
fire, chickenman, bury my heart.... romeo and juliet could go either way imho

there pooh - that ought to have stirred up the hornets enough for a few
more days on this thread.....;)

peace, love and understanding
tony

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here's today's trivia question. flush or respond as you deem
appropriate. ;}

        if an adoring ig fan (such as yourself) with no intentions other
than to honor your diva, knocked on emily's front door at her home and
introduced yourself  ... emily would most likely:
        a) invite you in for a cup of tea and a wafer
        b) be really pissed off
        c) sing least complicated for you
        d) offer you a homegrown tomato
        e) shoot you
        f) all of the above

<hint: answer is from the uk interview boot>

tony

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ahh it has been so long since i got to flame publically. the list has
seemed to be running so smoothly of late. i write this publically so that
others who are new may learn :).

jenn. brown wrote:

>i love the
>people on it, with all their little inside jokes and the friendly jibes
>and the occasional (sometimes frequent) nigc posts that someone thinks
>someone else might enjoy or benefit from. i also love how candid people
>are

i too love the folks on the list.  as i have said many times in the past,
some of my best friends are people i have met through the list.  once i met
them through the list we have stayed in contact via email.  but that
doesn't mean we have kept oon broadcasting our relationship for the entire
ig list to view.  being candid is great.  this can be a place to meet new
people and make friends, but once you make em like go private with the
email because let's face it, all 700-800 of us aren't going to be friends
on such a personal basis.  just like all the list gatherings went private
for the benefit of all those not attending.

>if we all just thought, "do i need to send this?" or "would i
>be embarrassed if other people knew i wrote this to this person?" or
>"would i say this to this person's face?" before flaming, the internet
>would be a much more pleasant place. sad as it is, i know that _someone_
>will read this entire post and flame me for it.

well that _someone_ is me :). i am actually in total agreement here. if
everyone asked "do i need to send this?" or your other questions the
internet would be spam free. so as an example not meant to pick on anyone
in particular:

>i thought everyone might be interested to know that i'm pledging phi sigma
>sigma! the people there are really cool, & i think it will be a lot of
>fun.

i am sure if this person asked the questions you posed the answers would be
a) no, i definitely don't need to send this. b) no i would not say this to
700 people's faces in person and c) yes i would be emabarassed knowing
that 700 people, 675 of which i have never had contact with, now know i am
pledging phi sig at upenn. i agree that flaming can be just as counter
productive but without silly posts, there would be little flaming.

so i guess my quarterly message to all is the usual think before you post.
i think that a lot of the nigc stuff of late has been fine and people are
getting good at putting nigc in the subject line.

however, extensive personal lives have no place on a list forum
imo--including a and e's.  it's not that i'm not happy for the person who
is pledging phi sig.  in fact i am overjoyed for the person.  if somoene
was interested in the whole sorority thread, then they could email that
person privately and go from there.  i met some list folks recently but you
won't see me posting personal notes about my trip to milwaukee where the
weather sucked and our waiter was slow and how when deb ordered a sprite
the machine broke and they had the sour mix lines crossed with the sprite
line and how we all laughed and laughed.  before that we went to an imax
movie about space.  it was so cool and i learned so much about our galaxy
and stuff.  we also went to visit this sort of indoor botanical gardens
which are fondly known as the boobs because they resemble large breasts.
you all should have been there.  what a hoot it was!  oh and then we went
out to some bars and my clothes smelled like a smokestack the next day and
i accidentally ordered a bud in milwaukee--the biggest faux pas of all.
boy was i embarrassed......i think my point has been made.  personal
messages about your personal life beyond an initial post can really stay
with your friends.  most of us aren't that concerned--unless amy is joining
your sorority i really think that's your business (or whoever posted that).

>also not understanding why people _flame_ (as opposed to inform) newbies
>for not reading the faq,

because it is very clear in the first message you get when subscribing to
read the faq before posting!!!  so not doing so and then posting nonsense
is just as rude imo.  flaming is informative if not too rude and can be
much more effective than an oh please stop it post.  i hope people are used
to my sarcasm by now and aren't offended.  i'm sure some will be but that
is the price i guess i can pay for informing.  been there done that.  just
trying to do my part to keep down the list volume.  have a lovely day!

greg

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>i have been a big fan for many years, but i regret that
>i have never had the chance to see you in concert.
^^^
>you should come up here and do a show.
^^^

ok i swear this is not a flame.  i am just totally baffled by the number of
people who apparently find our list address somewhere and then post
thinking they are actually writing to a and e directly.  are their other
big label artists who have direct email and actually reply to fans?  i mean
c'mon!  that is just so naive to me.  fine i am a snot.  or maybe i am
wrong--entirely possible.  i do recall amy posting to the list not too long
ago.  so maybe she needs to make another appearance to prove me wrong.  or
now that i recall that was just some asshole trying to impersonate amy.
some people have no respect!  laterness

greg

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there were a couple of posts the other day saying we had taken some stuff
off of the site, we have not.  i think the info that was refered to was on
linked pages,  because it is so hard to keep up with individual pages coming
and going  we decided to scrap the individual links and just have a pointer
to the yahoo indigo girls page.  i am in the process of moving cross
country, once i get settled in you will be seeing more info added to the page.

for any of you who have not checked it out the site is unofficial but has a
lot of lyrics, articles, and set lists:

http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood

also, i have an individual page that has my tape list.  because of the move
it is mostly informational at this point, as i am not in a position to do
any trading or dubbing for blanks.  in the mean time i have tried to seed
some trees for the list.  it is at:

http://rampages.onramp.net/~underdog

have a good one

carolyn

in a message dated 97-01-27 04:26:03 est, tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net (the
chickenman) writes:

<< emily is lead guitar and amy is lead vocals. of course, emily can
hit those superhuman high notes, i grant you that :} >>

this has nothing to do with the amy or emily who is better thing (thank god),
but i'm wondering why everyone thinks emily hits really high notes.  in truth
she doesn't sing that high on most songs.  of course, compared to amy's
singing it seems much higher, and it is mostly in her head voice (as opposed
to amy whose head voice we all enjoyed hearing in "cut it out" but thats
about it).  i think she would fit nicely into an alto 1 range.  although i'm
not a music expert so i'll just stop rambling now.

west of bishes
shana (jak)

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i think tracy is on to something....and my hand is raised high! who in the
heck does one contact at mtv??? oh well...we can all dream.

btw, i tried to write to russell carter about upcoming tours and what not,
and got no response...does anyone out there have any connections???

and finally, i tried to get the complete list of all of us...and for some
reason, it would not come back...i think mat (indigojo) had the same
problem. if anyone has it and would either send it entirely or in pieces, i
would be grateful.

and anna h...are you still alive???

sara

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                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

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no flame intended by any means, but in all honesty, i think we're just
trying to come up with conversation.  i mean, if you think about it, when
they're on tour or a new album comes out - - we do all talk about the
appropriate topic (tour, album, etc.).  i consider myself an "emily
person", but adore amy as well.  you're right, they work as a team.  but as
we have no current topic to discuss, we're all trying to come up with some
type of discussion.

hey, we could do the "overdone" and ask where everyone is from again - -
(let's not). at least the topic has been trying to remain igc.

my .02 worth,
- jen hall

>     why do we have to compare the igs to each other, arguing who's the
> best.  the igs work together as a team, and i think that it is
> disrespectful to attempt to say which one of them is more talented than
> the other.  they both have multiple talents, which i feel compliment
> each other.  as a big emily fan, i am sick of hearing about everyone's
> crushes on amy and how emily, in your opinion, might have looked bad on
> david letterman.  i'm not trying to be a mean person, i just think that
> i am really ready for their new cd to come out and their touring to
> start so that we will have something else to discuss than stuff that
> doesn't really matter.

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sziasztok! hogy vagytok?
valaszoljatok!

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i'm a hungarian boy.
i don't speak english,so you must write in hungarian language,please.

>sziasztok! hogy vagytok?
>valaszoljatok!
>

yeah, i understood that one...!!!!!

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on mon, 27 jan 1997, galileo wrote:

> >sziasztok! hogy vagytok?
> >valaszoljatok!
> >
>
> yeah, i understood that one...!!!!!

carolyn writes: i don't think any of this says indigo girls?
oh well,this list rocks!
>
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>sziasztok! hogy vagytok?
>valaszoljatok!

no way!!!!! are you serious? i totally agree with you though.

man three posts in one day a definite record. back to lurkdom.

greg

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on mon, 27 jan 1997, greg flamer wrote:

> >i have been a big fan for many years, but i regret that
> >i have never had the chance to see you in concert.
>                                     ^^^
> >you should come up here and do a show.
>  ^^^
>
> ok i swear this is not a flame.  i am just totally baffled by the number of
> people who apparently find our list address somewhere and then post
> thinking they are actually writing to a and e directly.  are their other
> big label artists who have direct email and actually reply to fans?  i mean
> c'mon!  that is just so naive to me.  fine i am a snot.  or maybe i am
> wrong--entirely possible.  i do recall amy posting to the list not too long
> ago.  so maybe she needs to make another appearance to prove me wrong.  or
> now that i recall that was just some asshole trying to impersonate amy.
> some people have no respect!  laterness

well i wrote to two of the people who maintain the list faq a couple of
weeks back, and ask them to amend the faq to include in the posting
guidelines a request not to post messages to the list which are aimed
directly at amy and emily themselves, since they're not in any position to
receive it. i was told that they would be updating the faq after the
release of the new album, so hopefully the problem will be solved then.

mat

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i'd apologize for wasting bandwith, but there are a remarkable number of
people in trades with me and who i'm dubbing for, so ...umm....well, i'm
sorry anyway... :)

i wanted to let y'all know that your tapes are still coming, although i got
behind in this past week because i started a new job. (7 days a week.
ugh.) anyway, if you're waiting for me to send you boots, they're
coming!!!!
thanks for your patience!!!
sue harney

>>>on a side note, i was flipping through an issue of (i think it
was) guitar player magazine, and it was the one with the 100 greatest
guitar players of all time.  well guess what, no emily.  i was about
ready to write them a letter of complaint.  in fact, there were no
women at all in the list. yeah sure, the industry is infused with
male guitarists, but that is definitely not a prerequisite to being
proficient at it.  grrr...<<<

ironically enough, i believe the article did list one musician --
joni mitchell.

i am not that familiar with ms. mitchell. is she that great a
guitarist? anyone anyone?

melissa

this is about all the hungarian i can speak. nem csak kevezset
beszelek magyarul. sorry. pj

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speaking of "real world" i heard ig on one episode. judd was leaving to
show off his comics to some editors and the beg. guitar part of tmf was
in the back. just thought you should know..ig is on mtv:)
ben
" some quote"

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last post today.....
super human high notes?
....never mind...i'd sound like a pretenious elitist.
ben

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i dont know if this made it to the list so i'm sending it again my galileo
single has a catalog number and a barcode i still say it is a commercially
released single and so do the stores in my area also my friend has closer
to fine on vynal that she bought commerically

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january 25
krogue@aol.com (kyle vogel)
happy birthday, kyle!!
there was a table set for 6 and 5 were there
i stood outside and kept my eyes upon that empty chair...

january 28
n.rear1@student.derby.ac.uk (natasha rear)
happy birthday, natasha!!
waking from a dream
the neighborhood is green
all the sounds i've heard all the years
come down to weddings, deaths, and tears...

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg

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subject:      airplane chords

i've looked at the olga (harmony central) site, but i can't find the
chords to airplane. i'm a poor college student and amateur guitarist, so
i can't afford to buy the songbooks right now. does anyone know the
chords to this song?

please respond privately, folks.... ;)

anna

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in a message dated 97-01-27 15:14:23 est, you write:

<<
ironically enough, i believe the article did list one musician --
joni mitchell.

i am not that familiar with ms. mitchell.  is she that great a
guitarist?  anyone anyone?
  >>
are you being sarcastic?

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>priority: normal
>date:  mon, 27 jan 1997 12:30:52 +0100
>reply-to: palkovics karoly zsolt <pk93b240@kalmar2.kalmar.hu>
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>sziasztok! hogy vagytok?
>valaszoljatok!
>
        say what???? any one speaks hungarian?
        i know a little chicken scrathin
i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
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> **snipped from shana's post**
amy whose head voice we all enjoyed hearing in "cut it out" but thats
> about it).

okay, flame me if you want, but does anyone else think that amy bears a
strange resemblance to tiny tim on that cut it out vocal? i've been
holding true to this hypothesis since the pnw party when i met the actual
people who killed tiny tim.... (joke--i know, not funny, boo hiss)

;) marianne

t minus 109 days to graduation!!!
(and 5 days until my application for the credential program is
due....help!!!)

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              "indigo jo" at jan 27, 97 3:22 pm

it's also possible that some of the people who write to the list thinking
the are writing to a & e may have seen the list address on one of our t-shirts
and, not knowing what it really meant, thought that it was a direct line to
them. maybe future t-shirts should include a short description of what the list
is so that people don't get confused.
kirsten

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greeting all in ig land!

just wanted to toss out a quick post...because i haven't in a long time.
first i want to extend a huge thank you sunny for compiling on the road
to austin and hugh for dubbing it for me.
second, i want to welcome my friend lynn to the list! enjoy grrlfriend!
next, i have an ig convert!!! we were discussing me and a show we were
both at in dc and she had never listened to the girls...i told her she
must and she has! she found botby in a used bin...fell in love with it,
quickly snatched up 1200 curfews and is ready to buy more! i told her to
get nis next.
i will be in sf wed-fri of this week. if anybody wants to get together
on thursday...gimme a holler. or if you are attending the vrml
conference let me know.
random musings...checked out the avi's on the epic site...amy appeared
to be having a good hair day....but i wont go there. and carolyn and
binky are very groovy cool grrls! i want get out the map now! ahhh i
feel much better now that i have had my little outburst...shame on you
is my new favorite song. btw if you are living in utah and want a little
bit of local humor email me.

peace and happy indigoing!

lisa
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/4536

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              chevalier" at jan 27, 97 7:18 pm

while its not a bad idea to put an explanation on a t-shirt, don't
expect it to solve anything.  the chances that someone will read it in
depth enough to get the full picture and also not turn to the owner
and say "nice shirt!" (which has happened to me numerous times -- they
are great shirts =)) is pretty small.  if they talk to the wearer, the
wearer can explain the details.  love word-of-mouth advertizing =)

the best thing we can do is politely explain that "a&e do not live
here" but lots of the fans do and we're a pretty cool bunch -- please
join us. after all its only 1 in 1000 posts that seem to be writing
directly to a&e....

-- chris

congrats to the packers and the pats -- it was a fun game, injury
free, mostly classy, and the right team won. ;) i didn't see it, but
someone put a cheesehead on the mit dome this morning... i'm kicking
myself for not having the idea first *huge grin*

i'm assuming this guy is from russia, but all i could think was..."my
god..it's bob dylan....and he's actually sortof enunciating!"
julie
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actually,
emily is more of a mezzo-soprano. she can occasionally do borderline
mezzosoprano-soprano 1 notes, but she comes nothing close to colluratura
range, which is really the superhuman high notes. if you're a theater fan,
think sarah brightman as christine in phantom hitting that high whatver-it is
at thend of angel of music. if you're not, think mariah carey. this is not to
say that emily isnt capable of this range, far be it from me to slight my
goddess, but it's just that i've never actually heard her. oh yeah, and imho,
emily's "falsetto" sounds damn cool.
thanks
julie

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oooh! another real world indigo quote-
actually this was road rules, they had power of two in the background at some
point. actually i think they had it on real world two. it was the time judd
and pedro went to the park w/ cory and pam and pedro raced and beat judd.
okay, i watch way too much tv....
julie

in a message dated 97-01-26 17:59:27 est, dschulman@aol.com writes:

<<never underestimate the value of a rhythm player.  "less of a contribution
to make to the overall sound"?!?!?  mat, she's half the overall sound!  no,
she doesn't play a flashy lead, but without her neither could emily.  rhythm
guitar is much harder than it looks >>
although i must say that technically speaking, emily is the "better" player,
i have to agree w/ d on this one. rhythm guitar is very very very difficult (
especially when you're a person like me, who has no rythym....and my band
wanted me...because??) anyway, another point. have you ever tried to keep a
steady rythym and then sing at the same time? not to mention with the
intensity that amy has, and all those weird low harmonies.
my point ( and i do have one) is that i don't feel that this list should be
trying to decide who is better, aore. i feel like we should be talking about
the music as a whole, not just amy specifically or emily. and while they are
both fascinating and wonderful, intense people, i don't feel like the purpose
of this list ( as i know it) is to analyze them as people, or try to rank or
categorize their musical talent. but hey, i could be wrong. just mho.
love you all
julianna

okay, even though i'm relatively new to the list, i guess i am what one
would call a 'lurker', but i felt compelled to post.

amy vs. emily? come on, i may not know every detail of their lives like
y'all do, like what toothpaste each uses <grin>, but i know one thing.
it is not a competition. they each have their talents, they each bring
their own special 'thang' to the group. one could not exist without the
other <i mean, as far as being ig goes>. it does not matter at all who
is the better singer, better guitarist, whatever. all that matters is
that together, they make beautiful music, and to those who listen, make
life a little more worthwhile.

and about flaming.. no one should be afraid to share their opinion.. i
think it's awful that people simply state their own opinion and have to
go 'please don't flame me'. think of ig for a second. i think that some
of the things their music tells us is not to be afraid of being who you
are. if you have an opinion, say it without fear, because you have that
right. people should not 'flame' you for being so bold as to, heaven
forbid, state your opinion. okay, that's all i have to say, so g'night.

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> i dont know if this made it to the list so i'm sending it again my galileo
> single has a catalog number and a barcode i still say it is a commercially
> released single and so do the stores in my area also my friend has closer
> to fine on vynal that she bought commerically

ok, i have 4 galileo singles, so tell me which one it is:

1) in a slimline case, wiht a white background and photo of ig, blue
writing. bar code:5099765876826, cat #658768-2 made in austria. tracks:\
galielo, closer to fine, tried to be true, hammer and a nail

2)  also in a slimline, with grpahic art from rp and a whie border at the
lieft saying maxi-cd single.  bar code 5099765804027, cat # 658040-2.
mde in austria.  tracks:  galielo, excerpts: ghost/joking/love wil
come to you/jonas and ezekial/kid fears

3) gatefoldd with rop album artwork. no barcode. cat # esk74326.
only track: galileo, has a couple of pictures and a little bit of writing
inside th cover talking about the album, the song, and band.

4) regaulr cd case, yellow toned picture cover with white borders
and black lettering. no bar code. cat # esk4434. only trrack,
galileo.

this helps support what i said before abotu singles...commercially *in
the us*, the
power of two is the only cd single. esk #'s are promo only. the other
two are from austria. if yours is differnt, i'd like to know the
details.

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gotta be the tomato!
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... mat suggests faq changes so people know not to post to a&e here ...

not a bad idea and we are currently working over the faq now.
"jcsdoubled" is loking at this as an active document and plan to be in
open-ended contact to revise and update things as needed.

this having been said, don't count on a faq change fixing anything.
the list is set up with an "open policy" meaning anyone can send mail
to "indigo-girls@netspace.org" and the listserv will distribute it.
they need not subscribe.  they need not have ever seen the faq, let
alone read it.  as kirsten suggested, people can get the address off
of our t-shirts.  what she didn't say, but could have, is the address
is also available on many web sites (and pops up in net searches), on
usenet, in email (on all those forwards that don't have headers
removed), etc.

the typical "perp" is a newbie, not wise in the way of listservs, who
sees the address and thinks "ohmegod!!!!  a&e are on the net!  the net
is sooooo cool!!!" and whips off a quick email without thinking.  they
never subscribe and see the faq.  further, well meaning hints such as
"read the faq" would probably fall on deaf ears -- after all "what's
a f-a-q?"

the best thing we can do is kindly nudge the enthusiastic yet
mis-informed soul in the right direction and educate them a bit.
after all, less than 0.1% of the traffic here is this "write to a&e"
error, we have bigger problems with the cookie recipie. the newbie is
a bit embarassed, we get a light chuckle -- the world goes on. its
really not a huge problem.

-- chris

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> on sun, 26 jan 1997, deborah alexander/jmc2000 wrote:
>
> > pooh, i've even read interviews where amy openly says stuff like "i suck,
> > i'm a bad guitar player"!!!  of course, i still think that amy is the most
> > passionate person on the face of this planet (mho of course), but i have
> > to agree with you that emily's guitar playing is "better" for whatever that
> > means.  emily is the reason i started playing guitar, but so far i'm best
> > at playing amy songs.  what can i say?  :)

then gwendigo said:

> in the interview with the silly world cafe man, amy says she used her year
> off to "learn how to play the guitar". for my money, emily's stuff is
> more immediately accessible, amy's a little more "flinty" (to borrow from
> darlist) and more purist-activist-raw-emotion which can be a little more
> difficult to get into immediately. neither is better, to me.

not to beat a dead horse, but...  i didn't mean to say that amy really
_does_ suck at guitar -- just that _she_ said so in an interview.  i
heartily agree that amy's playing involves lots of raw emotion, and
although it may be hard for any of us to do blood and fire with as much
intensity as amy, it's still a heck of a lot easier to play than most of
what emily does.  (although predictable picking songs like ghost or fare
thee well are fun too...)

later,
debbie, defending her honor as a recently-returned list member who's
still a _relative_ newbie anyway... and one who swings back
and forth quite often on the subject of "favorite indigo girl"

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i was informed by one of my friends at wheaton college in norton, mass
that indigo girls would be performing there this feb.....
she hasn't given me details, but i was planning on going if it is actually
happening....anyone else heard of that?

thanks.....

meghan

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>last post today.....
>super human high notes?
>....never mind...i'd sound like a pretenious elitist.
>ben

ok ben so i sing like a chicken and i couldn't hit one of em's high notes if
it were thrown at me ... but some of her notes on particular songs sound
*really* high to my  untrained ears ... as someone who may know about vox,
please explain it to us so that we can all understand it....
        if i read you correctly, what you're saying is that emily really
doesn't sing that high.  please explain???  i mean are we talking *the ella
fitzgerald glass breaking act* or is there some other type of scale involved??
        i'm interested, truly!!!! :)

bigbird @:-}}

sorry to waste bandwidth and will all the nigc goin on i apologize...

but alexandra... i need your snail mail addy again cuz my computer is freakin
out...so i don't have you e-mail addy either. the tape is ready, i just need
the address...

muchas gracias-
sasha ( the other alexandra : )

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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 21:03:27 -0500
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here's the deal.  i just spent $333 to get tickets to get to the dar
williams concert on february 9th.  that's with the student discount.  so
i figured i'd see if anyone else was going, and we could have a list
gathering during intermission.  anyone?  anyone??  bueller?  c'mon, it'll
be fun.  <*exert peer pressure here*>  you know you want to.

seriously, folks, the show is in seattle, email me if you want the phone
number to get tickets. it should only cost you $15 per ticket ($13 if
you've got a student id).....that $333 is just because i'm coming from
philadelphia. ;)

later.
audrey, proud member of the susan b. marine fan club

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hello there :)

don't shoot please :) i've used the name 'indigo girl' for a few years
now...even before i really got into the indigo girls...so really, i'm not
an obsessed fan or anything silly.

i just thought i would introduce myself, seeming that i am new to this
list. my name is xochitl (sochee) and i live in southern california (los
angeles to be exact). (woo hoo, no snow!:)  i was randomly adding a link to my
web page the other day, and after seeing the list information on one of
the pages many a time, i finally decided to subscribe.  so here i
am...making your day with my nonsense.  :)

i had a rather weird expression on my face upon logging in just now.
forty messages in the span of an hour! :) i'm rather used to a large
volume of mail since i am also subscribed, and have been for over a year,
to the sarah mclachlan list. but 40 messages! that's like one message
every minute and a half! :)

i also read something about t-shirts?? it's kind of cool how the sarah
list just got their t-shirts after tons of procrastination...very hard
work! i'm glad you guys managed to pull it off. :)

since i've made it pretty obvious, i am in love with sarah mclachlan's
music. :) both the indigo girls and sarah mclachlan have touched me in
many ways. i adore suzanne vega and joni mithcell as well...

my first indigo girls encounter:

i was 16, and had met the boy of my dreams. :)  it was a summer of
fascination and wonder!  i had just had the best summer pof my entire
life and the sky was bluer than it had ever been (hey, i was 16 for crying
out loud:).  well, one day i was sitting on my parents bed watching mtv,
and the video for "least complicated" came on.

"and i bought you that ring 'cause i never was cool. what makes me think
i can start clean slated, the hardest to learn was the least complicated."

after i heard that, i fell in love.  those lines described exactly how i
was feeling at the time.  how i was so   in love with this boy who i'd
only known for a week!  and who lived across the country! :)   oh, those
lines just made so much sense to me.  it  explained my entire adolesence.
:)  my entire life!  my first crush.:)   "least complicated" was the first
song that ment something to me.  a 'rite of passage' shall we say. :)  i
smile now thinking about it.  wow, i can't believe three years have
passed! :)   i feel so old now :)

but, i think i've rambled long enough!

with stained glass smiles,
xochitl :)

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                            xochitl c. ruiz
                 university of southern california
                            los angeles, ca

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