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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 18:19:49 -0800
reply-to:     indigo girl <xruiz@usc.edu>
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hello there :)

don't shoot please :) i've used the name 'indigo girl' for a few years
now...even before i really got into the indigo girls...so really, i'm not
an obsessed fan or anything silly.

i just thought i would introduce myself, seeming that i am new to this
list. my name is xochitl (sochee) and i live in southern california (los
angeles to be exact). (woo hoo, no snow!:)  i was randomly adding a link to my
web page the other day, and after seeing the list information on one of
the pages many a time, i finally decided to subscribe.  so here i
am...making your day with my nonsense.  :)

i had a rather weird expression on my face upon logging in just now.
forty messages in the span of an hour! :) i'm rather used to a large
volume of mail since i am also subscribed, and have been for over a year,
to the sarah mclachlan list. but 40 messages! that's like one message
every minute and a half! :)

i also read something about t-shirts?? it's kind of cool how the sarah
list just got their t-shirts after tons of procrastination...very hard
work! i'm glad you guys managed to pull it off. :)

since i've made it pretty obvious, i am in love with sarah mclachlan's
music. :) both the indigo girls and sarah mclachlan have touched me in
many ways. i adore suzanne vega and joni mithcell as well...

my first indigo girls encounter:

i was 16, and had met the boy of my dreams. :)  it was a summer of
fascination and wonder!  i had just had the best summer pof my entire
life and the sky was bluer than it had ever been (hey, i was 16 for crying
out loud:).  well, one day i was sitting on my parents bed watching mtv,
and the video for "least complicated" came on.

"and i bought you that ring 'cause i never was cool. what makes me think
i can start clean slated, the hardest to learn was the least complicated."

after i heard that, i fell in love.  those lines described exactly how i
was feeling at the time.  how i was so   in love with this boy who i'd
only known for a week!  and who lived across the country! :)   oh, those
lines just made so much sense to me.  it  explained my entire adolesence.
:)  my entire life!  my first crush.:)   "least complicated" was the first
song that ment something to me.  a 'rite of passage' shall we say. :)  i
smile now thinking about it.  wow, i can't believe three years have
passed! :)   i feel so old now :)

but, i think i've rambled long enough!

with stained glass smiles,
xochitl :)

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                            xochitl c. ruiz
                 university of southern california
                            los angeles, ca

                            (i'm all talk)
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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 19:18:07 -0800
reply-to:     the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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        here's the most creative response so far in today's trivia question.
da chickenman-
>
>        if an adoring ig fan (such as yourself) with no intentions other
>>than to honor your diva, knocked on emily's front door at her home and
>>introduced yourself  ... emily would most likely:
>>        a) invite you in for a cup of tea and a wafer
>>        b) be really pissed off
>>        c) sing least complicated for you
>>        d) offer you a homegrown tomato
>>        e) shoot you
>>        f) all of the above
>
>i'd have to say f) all of the above. first she'd get really pissed off
>because i just showed up uninvited. then that brain of hers would get to
>scheming and she'd invite me in for a cup of tea and a wafer, just so i
>wouldn't suspect anything. after that, she'd set me on my way with a
>homegrown tomato. as i open the front door, she'd start singing least
>complicated to get my attention, and when i turn around, she'd shoot me.
>
>jendy

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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 21:48:58 -0500
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subject:      re: galileo
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and what of my friends closer to fine on vynal that she bought locally
also not as a import but as a regular 45?

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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 19:54:04 -0800
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: galileo
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again, format format format.  i clarified my power of two statemtns
on format.  i was clear about talking about cd singles, of which
power of two is undisputedly the only commercially released cd single
in teh us.  let's get on the same wavelegnth here, hm?

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amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin

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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 22:56:50 -0500
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on mon, 27 jan 1997, the chickenman wrote:

> there pooh - that ought to have stirred up the hornets enough for a few
> more days on this thread.....;)

        "isn't it funny
         how a bear likes hunny.
         buzz, buzz, buzz.
         i wonder why he does?"

tuesday's child

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indigojo-- i cannot believe that you said that. bob dylans guitar
playing could be descibed as "limited" but no one would ever say he
couldn't contribute because of that. to me amy reprsents my spectrum of
the world in ig music. i love and appriciate emily but i feel as though
we come from different worlds. but i would never say that emilys
"fluffieness" prevented her from contributing. the fact is without each
other i seriously doubt they would have achieved any of the music success
they have.
--sonny
---sunchips
...he said he'll see me on the flipside, of this trip he's taken for a
ride, he's been taken too much on, there he foes with his perfectly
unkept clothes...
...bumping like a pinball off the careless crowd, you said good friends
are hard to come by, i laughed bought you a beer its too corny to cry...
...she thinks she missed the train to mars she's out back counting
stars..

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date:         mon, 27 jan 1997 22:16:19 -0800
reply-to:     the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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thanks for all of you who have responded to my nojf boot offer, yet so far
only *3* indifans have gotten all 10 questions right (even allowing two
tries :0).  so if you haven't taken the quiz yet and would like a free
5-4-96 nojf boot then please give it a shot.  in interest of bw please email
me privately for a list of the original questions and message, if you need them.
        secondly, the most popular answer to today's trivia question was
that emily would give you homegrown tomatoes if you showed up at her front
door.  trust me folks, emily would *be really pissed off* if you came over
uninvited!!!  gee, i wonder why???

here's the most creative response in today's trivia question:
>i'd have to say f) all of the above. first she'd get really pissed off
>because i just showed up uninvited. then that brain of hers would get to
>scheming and she'd invite me in for a cup of tea and a wafer, just so i
>wouldn't suspect anything. after that, she'd set me on my way with a
>homegrown tomato. as i open the front door, she'd start singing least
>complicated to get my attention, and when i turn around, she'd shoot me.
>jendy

and (drumroll...please) here is today's chickenman trivia question:

        according to amy, there was some sort of wisdom imparted to her by
the         chickenman.  how did the c-man communicate that wisdom to her?
        a) through a walkie-talkie radio
        b) in a really cool song
        c) in chicken language
        d) some sort of vulcan mind-meld
        e) through a hole in the wall next to his front door

tony

this is one of those threads that comes out of withdrawal, isn't it?  =)
anyway, my quick two cents is that i think amy is a damn decent guitar
player, and that i think she's being a little hard on herself when she says
she sucks.  i think that, technically, emily is better on the guitar.  no
dispute there.  but amy, i think, puts a ton of emotion and power into her
playing.  also, i can actually play her songs on the guitar.  i've only been
playing a year, and po2 is beyond me, but i can play you anything amy.

also, i don't think that comment about lessons not being nessisary was fueled
totally by jealousy (yey, i own 1200 curfews now!). i'm sure amy is still
(from elementary school) a little jealous of emily, but, heck, i think we all
are, aren't we? =)

i think you can flame me if you want (why not?  i don't get enough e-mail . .
. ), but i'd just like to interject here that i'm a big emily person.  amy's
songs keep me in-line, though.  meaning, i get so - i don't know - depressed
by some of emily's songs that amy's always bring me back to my roots in hard
rock and everything good & seattle.  =)  they each need the other, and that's
all there is to it; it doesn't matter who's better because whoever is
couldn't be that good with out the other one for 'support.'  my .02

-elizabeth

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date:         tue, 28 jan 1997 16:07:06 +0800
reply-to:     anna hidalgo <ahidalgo@portalinc.com>
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hi everyone!

the chickenman wrote:
> now i haven't set down
>and counted exactly which one leads vocal on all the songs (although i'm
>certain someone else out there has!), but i know there are a number of emily
>songs where amy leads the vocals. and i can't really think of any amy songs
>that emily leads vox on.

i remember, way back when we were doing the song of the day thread and it
was time to talk about reunion, this subject came up. there is the fact that
amy has a wonderful voice, and someone else also mentioned there's something
about the way emily's songs are structured or arranged that lend themselves
to being more of a showcase for the creative vocal interplay of lead &
harmony. reunion was brought up as an example of this can also happen to
great effect in an amy song, and how hopefully it will happen more often in
the future.

i also think that, where emily fills out amy's songs instrumentally, amy
does the same thing for emily's songs vocally. which is not to say that
rhythm guitar isn't important, or that emily doesn't have a lovely voice
herself! :) i guess that's why there's nothing like the two of them together.

does anyone want to revive the song of the day/week thread? i think there
are quite a few new folks who might enjoy it, and we could expend our
collective list energy in a productive ig way while waiting for the new
album ...

anna

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date:         tue, 28 jan 1997 10:14:12 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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on mon, 27 jan 1997, palkovics karoly zsolt wrote:

(nothing!)

can someone translate this into hungarian:

do you know who the indigo girls are?
have you ever heard of them?
if not, why are you posting to this list?

mat

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date:         tue, 28 jan 1997 10:29:12 +0000
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#this file is the author's own work and represents their interpretation of the #
#song. you may only use this file for private study, scholarship, or research. #
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fugitive (amy ray)
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[em(9)=02400x; em-6(9)=03400x; cdim/e=03420x.]
[for a(9), amy plays x02200, and emily plays x07650 or x07600.]

em(9)  em(9)  em(9)  em(9)  em-6(9)  cdim/e  em-6(9)  cdim/e
[intro]
em(9)  em(9)  em(9)  em(9)  cdim/e  cdim/e  cdim/e  cdim/e
[intro]
e  e  e  e  a(9)  a(9)  a(9)  a(9)
[intro]

    e           e           e              e
i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a kind
        a(9)        a(9)      a(9)         a(9)
and she lives in my soul, and drinks of my wine
        e            e     e        e        a(9)  a(9)  a(9)  a(9)
and i'd give my last breath just to keep us alive

are they coming for us with cameras or guns?
we don't know which, but we gotta run
and you say, "this is not what i bargained for"

e e e e a(9) a(9) a(9) a(9)
so hide yourself for me
[similar to intro here...]
all for me

we swore to ourselves we'd go to the end of the world
but i got caught up in the whirl, the twirl of it all
a day in the sun, dancing alone, baby i'm so sorry

now it's coming to you; the lessons i've learned
won't do you any good, you've got to get burned
well the curse and the blessing, they're one and the same
baby it's all such a treacherous game

hide yourself for me
i said hide yourself for me
all for me

ooooohhhhhhh [instrumental]

i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, and kissing the damned
i said, "remember this is how it should be"

baby, i said, it's all in our hands
got to learn to respect what we don't understand
we are fortunate ones, fortunate ones i swear

hide yourself for me
i will hide myself for you, ohhh
i will hide myself for you, ah ahahh
i will hide myself for you, all for you [tacet]

i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, and kissing the damned
i said, "remember this is how it should be"

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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date:         tue, 28 jan 1997 10:28:27 +0000
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fare thee well (emily saliers)
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[actually in f#; capo 6.]
[tune both e strings down to d.]
[complete tablature is at the end.]
[some of the chord names are kind of strange; this is what happens
when you use alternate tunings. refer to the tab at the end for
fingerings.]
[thanks to rich tebb and mark coiley for the collaboration on the tab.]

c g(4)/f em7 am9 f6(#4) g c(9) g(4)/b
[intro]

c            g7/f            em7   am7
  fare thee well, my bright star
                f6(#4)      g                c(9)   g(4)/b
i watched your taillights blaze into nothingness
c                    g7/f         em7           am9
  but you were long gone before i ever got to you
f6(#4)         g                  am9   am7
  before you blazed past this address

    dm7(4)  c(9)/e         f6(9)            g
and now i think of having loved and having lost
    dm7(4)                c(9)/e         f6(9)    g7
you never know what it's like to never love
dm7(4)              c(9)/e         f6(9)              g  -  g#dim
who can say what's better when my heart's become the cost
        am7         d11/a         g9/d          g9
a mere token of a brighter jewel sent from up above

fare thee well, my bright star
the vanity of youth, the color of your eyes
maybe if i'd fanned the blazing fire of your day-to-day
or if i'd been older i'd been wise

too thick the heat of those long summer evenings
for a cool evening i began to yearn
but you could only feed upon the things which feed a fire
waiting to see if i would burn

fare thee well, my bright star
it was a brief brilliant miracle dive
that which i looked up to and i clung to for dear life
f6(#4) g - g#dim am9 am7
had to burn itself up just to make itself alive

and i caught you then, in your moment of glory
your last dramatic scene against a night sky stage
with a memory so clear it's as if you're still before me
my once in a lifetime star of an age

so fare thee well, my bright star
last night the tongues of fire circled me around
and this strange season of pain will come to pass
when the healing hands of autumn cool me down

tab:

[an equal sign is a hammer-on; / is a slide.]
[play all the notes on the lower three strings with your thumb.]
[each verse might have a few more or less notes, but the same fingerings.
the only big difference is the extra g#dim (6x0x0x) in verse 3.]
[actually, you can play it without tuning the high e down, if you want to
avoid the risk of string breakage. the only adjustment you have to make
is in the second measure of the intro, and also on the "easy" version of
the g9 measures.]

  c                g(4)/f           em7              am9
d ----------------|0---------0-----|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|------1---------|----------0-----|0=1---0---------|
g ------0-------0-|--------------0-|------0-------0-|------0---0-----|
d ----2-------2---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----2-------0---|
a 3-------3-------|----------------|--------2-------|0-------0-------|
d ----------------|3-------3-------|2---------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
  [intro]

  f6(#4)           g                c(9)             g(4)/b
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------0-----|--0-------0-----|--1-------1-----|--1-------1-----|
g ------2-------2-|------4-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|
d ----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|
a ----------------|----------------|3-------3-------|2-------2-------|
d 3-------3------/|5-------5-------|----------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
  [intro]

  c                g7/f             em7              am7
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--3-------3-----|--0-------0-----|1---------1-----|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|
d ----2-------2---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----2-------2---|
a 3-------3-------|----------------|--------2-------|0-------0-------|
d ----------------|3-------3-------|2---------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
        fare thee well,  my bright star                   i watched your

  f6(#4)           g                c(9)             g(4)/b
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------0-----|--0-------0-----|----------1-----|--1-------1-----|
g ------2-------2-|------4-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|
d ----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|
a ----------------|----------------|3-------3-------|2-------2-------|
d 3-------3------/|5-------5-------|----------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
taillights     blaze  into  nothingness

  c                g7/f             em7              am9
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--3-------3-----|--0-------0-----|-----(1?)-0-----|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------5-------0-|
d ----2-------2---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----2-------2---|
a 3-------3-------|----------------|--------2-------|0-------0-------|
d ----------------|3-------3-------|2---------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
    but you were long gone before i ever got to you

  f6(#4)           g                am9              am7
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------0-----|--0-------0-----|--1--(0?)-1-----|--1-------1-----|
g ------2-------2-|------4-------0-|------4-------2-|------0-------0-|
d ----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----2-------2---|----2-------2---|
a ----------------|----------------|0-------0-------|0-------0-------|
d 3-------3------/|5-------5-------|----------------|----------------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
      before you blazed past this address                          and

  dm7(4)           c(9)/e           f6(9)            g
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--1-------1-----|--1-------1-----|--3-------3-----|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|
d ----3-------3---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
d 0-------0-------|2-------2-------|3-------3-------|5-------5-------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
  now       i   think   of having loved and having lost           you

  dm7(4)           c(9)/e           f6(9)            g7
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--1-------1-----|----------1-----|--0-------0-----|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|
d ----3-------3---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----3-------3---|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
d 0-------0-------|2-------2-------|3-------3------/|5-------5-------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
  never know what it's like to never love

  dm7(4)           c(9)/e           f6(9)            g       g#dim
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--1-------1-----|--1-------1-----|--3-------0---0-|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------0--(4?)---|
d ----3-------3---|----0-------0---|----0-------0---|----0-------3---|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
d 0-------0-------|2-------2-------|3-------3-------|5-------6-------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
  who can say what's better and my heart's become the cost,  a mere

  am7              d(11)/a          g9/d             g9
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b ----------1-----|--3-------3-----|--6-------6-----|----------6-----|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|------4-------4-|--------------0-|
d ----2-------2---|----4-------4---|----7-------7---|----7-------7---|
a 0-------0-------|0-------0-------|5-------5-------|----------------|
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|5-------5-------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
token    of  a  brighter jewel   sent from above

[note that in order to do the x5746x chord, you need to use your pinky
and ring fingers for the am7 and d(11/)a, rather than the index and
middle fingers. then you slide up to the next chords, and use the
index and middle fingers for the 5 and 4 in the g9. if that's too
hard, use the following instead:]

  am7              d(11)/a          g9/d             g9
d ----------------|----------------|--3-------3-----|----------3-----|
b ----------1-----|--3-------3-----|------0-------0-|----------------|
g ------0-------0-|------0-------0-|----2-------2---|------------2-0-|
d ----2-------2---|----4-------4---|0-------0-------|----0-----------|
a 0-------0-------|0-------0-------|----------------|----------------|
d ----------------|----------------|----------------|5-------5-------|
  ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
token    of  a  brighter jewel   sent from above

ending:
         am(9)            am(9)            am(9)            am(4)
       d ----------------|----------------|----------------|--------0-------|
       b --1-------1-----|--1-------1-----|--1-------1-----|------1---------|
       g ------4-------4-|------4-------4-|------4-------4-|----4-----------|
       d ----2-------2---|----2-------2---|----2-------2---|--2-------------|
       a 0-------0-------|0-------0-------|0-------0-------|0---------------|
       d ----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
         ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^    ^   ^   ^   ^
cool me down....

[or you can play 0's on the b string instead of 4's on the g string; it sounds
fine, but then the ending chord has to include a hammer-on from b to c.]

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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> <<never underestimate the value of a rhythm player.  "less of a contribution
>  to make to the overall sound"?!?!?  mat, she's half the overall sound!  no,
>  she doesn't play a flashy lead, but without her neither could emily.  rhythm
>  guitar is much harder than it looks >>
> although i must say that technically speaking, emily is the "better" player,
> i have to agree w/ d on this one. rhythm guitar is very very very difficult (
> especially when you're a person like me, who has no rythym....and my band
> wanted me...because??) anyway, another point. have you ever tried to keep a

ok then i'm gonna add to this ( though it is against my principles )

as a mostly rhythm player of the last way too many years i have to say
that if you think amy has nothing to contribute to the guitar playing
experience try getting the patterns right to ...

        pushing the needle
        joking
        r & j
        land of cannan

it takes a while.

what i will say is this .. emily does blow me away she makes the things
she does effortless ( the beginning pattern of lc for example ) emily
does have a better guitar vocab. this makes here playing "more exciting"
but just stop and check out amy on watchtower or kid fears or even j&e.
j&e is made up of 4 ( 5 at a stretch ) basic basic chords but i never
thought of putting them together like that !!

jules

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galileo (emily saliers)
-----------------------

[amy plays this in e, capoed up 1 to f.  emily plays it in c with a
capo on the fifth fret and her guitar tuned to dadgbc.  i'm going to
write down emily's chords, because they're easier and more interesting.
if you want to play amy's chords, you can figure them out; since it's
in e, there are a lot of barre chords.]
[actually, when i play this, i usually just play emily's chords, but
in standard tuning so i don't put my high e in danger of breaking when
i tune back up.  if you play in standard tuning, play the verse as
c g f g7-g6; it's pretty easy to play the g7 - g6 part, as long as
you play g as 320003 with your pinky on the high e string.  just play
em(c)/b as em, and play d13 as d or d11 (554030).]

[each chord is half a measure, except "g7 - g6" is half a measure _total_.]

c gsus f6(9) g7 - g6 c gsus f6(9) g7 - g6
[intro]

c      gsus           f6(9)        g7 - g6
   galileo's head was on the block
c                gsus             f6(9)  g7 - g6
   the crime was looking up the truth
c              gsus              f6(9)         g7 - g6
   and as the bombshells of my daily fears explode
         am         em(c)/b   f6(9)   gsus
i try to trace them to my youth

and then you had to bring up reincarnation
over a couple of beers the other night
and now i'm serving time for mistakes
made by another in another lifetime

    c            gsus          f6(9)       gsus
how long till my soul gets it right?   can any human
c          gsus               f6(9)     gsus
being ever reach that kind of light?  i call on the
am       em(c)/b   d13    d13
resting soul  of  galileo
         f6(9)       gsus      c      gsus   f6(9)   gsus
king of night vision, king of insight

then i think about my fear of motion
which i never could explain
some other fool across the ocean years ago
must have crashed his little airplane

how long till my soul gets it right?
can any human being ever reach that kind of light?
i call on the resting soul of galileo
f6(9) gsus c c
king of night vision, king of insight

am          am       f/a            f/a
   i'm not making a joke, you know me
        f#dim/a  f#dim/a   f/a      f/a
i take every - thing  so  seriously
      am            am            f/a          f/a
if we wait for the time till all souls get it right
        gsus                  f6(9)      gsus      f6(9)
then at least i know there'll be no nuclear annihilation
      c        gsus            f6(9)   gsus
in my lifetime; i'm still not right

c    gsus    f6(9)    g7 - g6      c    gsus    f6(9)    g7 - g6
[guitar solo]
c    gsus    f6(9)    g7 - g6      am    em(c)/b    d13    d13
[guitar solo]
f6(9)   gsus      c   gsus   f6(9)   gsus      c   gsus   f6(9)   gsus
[guitar solo]

i offer thanks to those before me
that's all i've got to say
'cause maybe you squandered big bucks in your lifetime
now i have to pay

but then again it feels like some sort of inspiration
to let the next life off the hook
she'll say, "look what i had to overcome from my last life
i think i'll write a book"

how long till my soul gets it right?
can any human being ever reach the highest light?
except for the resting soul... (god rest his soul)
f6(9) gsus c gsus f6(9) gsus
king of night vision, king of insight

     c            gsus         f6(9)   gsus
how long till my soul gets it right...
     c          gsus               f6(9)   gsus
how long till i meet that highest light...
     c   gsus   f6(9)   gsus   c.
how long?

chords (tuning is dadgbc):

c: x32010 gsus: 5x0030 f6(9): 3x0010 g7: 5x0035 g6: 5x0034
am: x02210 em(c)/b: x22000* d13: 009900 f/a: x03210 f#dim/a: x04210

*this should probably be called cmaj7/b, but in the context, it sounds more
like e minor, so i'm calling it "e minor with an added c (and b bass)."

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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date:         tue, 28 jan 1997 10:34:24 -0600
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i am looking for a few people who might be interested in administering tape
trees. i would dub high quality 1991 and before shows on to your blanks, if
you agree to do your best to make them available to the people on the list.
i would prefer to get either people who have participated in trees before or
who feel like they have a good understanding of them, that way you know the
work involved and what you are getting in to. the timeframe that i would be
looking to have the tapes out to you and ready to go would be early to
mid-march.

if you are interested please email me by this friday (january 31st).

thanks

carolyn

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sorry kids, i posted this last night, but it never showed up on my 'puter so
i'm sending it again.
sorry if you get two :(

>thanks for all of you who have responded to my nojf boot offer, yet so far
only *3* indifans have gotten all 10 questions right (even allowing two
tries :0).  so if you haven't taken the quiz yet and would like a free
5-4-96 nojf boot then please give it a shot.  in interest of bw please email
me privately for a list of the original questions and message, if you need them.
>        secondly, the most popular answer to yesterday's trivia question
was that emily would give you homegrown tomatoes if you showed up at her
front door.  trust me folks, emily would *be really pissed off* if you came
over uninvited!!!  gee, i wonder why???
>
>       here's the most creative response in today's trivia question:
>>i'd have to say f) all of the above. first she'd get really pissed off
>>because i just showed up uninvited. then that brain of hers would get to
>>scheming and she'd invite me in for a cup of tea and a wafer, just so i
>>wouldn't suspect anything. after that, she'd set me on my way with a
>>homegrown tomato. as i open the front door, she'd start singing least
>>complicated to get my attention, and when i turn around, she'd shoot me.
>>jendy
>
>and (drumroll...please) here is today's chickenman trivia question:
>
>        according to amy, there was some sort of wisdom imparted to her by
the         chickenman.  how did the c-man communicate that wisdom to her?
>        a) through a walkie-talkie radio
>        b) in a really cool song
>        c) in chicken language
>        d) some sort of vulcan mind-meld
>        e) through a hole in the wall next to his front door
>
>tony

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     imagine my surprise (and excitement) when i was looking at today's new
     york times crossword puzzle and saw that the clue to 28-across was
     "pop duo with the album 'swamp ophelia'"!!!

indigo girls have finally taken over the world!

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okay...sonny came up with the idea for people getting together in
austin...if anyone is interested in carrying this out, and happens to
know the address to write to mtv concerning this endeavor. lemme know by
priv. mail...or if you don't really care, but know the addy anyway,
lemme know by priv. mail. turn your nose up if you will folks, but i
think it'd be fun :)
-sal

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since most members of the list probably weren't watching "where in the
world is carmen sandiago?" on tv this afternoon, i thought i'd share one
of the questions:

q: who was mentioned in an indigo girls song, galileo the man or galileo
the spacecraft?

a: if you need me to tell you, listen to the song! <g>

just thought i'd share..
margaret

hey y'all...this weekend i was having a marvelous time shopping at a
going-out-of-business sale at a great cd store, and my dad from across the
room yelled "katy, this has the indigos on it!"  (he knows his orders :)
anyway, it was a compilation cd, something about women artists, but not the
women for women 2 thing.  ig had put ctf on it.  anyone know anything about
this?  worth buying?  the sale's still going on!  i want to run back (in all
my, heh, spare time :) and re-shop once i've considered some other
purchases...:)  (i also found a caroline aiken cd and a wendy bucklew cd! :)
still wading thru a weekend of listmail...to everyone i owe mail, very very
sorry...
love and ponies
katy

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hey all:

sorry to waste bandwidth, but i need a firm count of people who are
planning on attending the party.  even if you have previously e-mailed
me saying you are coming, please do it again.  the date is this saturday
feb. 1, 1997 at 3pm.  if you need directions i can do that for you...
tell me where you are coming from.

thanks!

peace

joe

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alrighty, this little talk about singles has a got me wondering...a few
years back, i picked up the least complicated single--digipak, smashing
accoustic guitars in the road artwork, track list (to the best of a frazzled
memory) lc, dead man's hill (accoustic), some other accoustic track off so,
i don't wanna talk about it, and ctf (both studio)...the thing is, the spine
of the digipak says least complicated, the cd is the lc single, but the
front cover says "touch me fall." found it odd to say the least...

any list folk going to ani on 3/21 at the capitol theatre in port chester,
ny...email me privately...

peace,
bill

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is there a problem with the list? my last msg is dated 3:30 am 1/28/97
and it is 9:30 pm 1/28 now..

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i'm not getting mail!!! what's up? sorry to waste b/w but i'm going
through withdrawal.
keep on groovin',
ryan

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hi y'all,

        it's been a slow night for me..i actually had the night off from work...so
i decided to watch the uptown video...again!!
        anyway...no slur meant against the video, but i noticed some things that
have been bothering me for a little while...
        at various times in the video, the editing team puts the wrong guitar
shots in the video.  am i imagining thing or does amy begin on her black
martin only to have a different martin in her hands during slow shots...in
several shots..."all along the watchtower"among others.
        not that it matters...it's still a great video, but i just wanted to check
my sanity!!

peace,

jen

hi -
   long time lurker here, (i lurk from my work account but thought i should
write from my personal account). anyway - financial situations have forced me
to sacrifice some stuff i had wanted to keep.
   one of these is an autographed cd - rop. the cd is autographed (not the
booklet insert) by both amy and emily. i won this cd years ago from the local
college radio station ...
    best offer by midnight friday 1/31 gets it.
    also have a laptop pc for sale if anyone is interested.
    for those of you who think this is blasphemous to sell this -- i'm sorry
...

rob (in atlanta)

'mci rate cut may rattle phone giants'
check out http://members.aol.com/cuttngedge/usatoday.html

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so like where is everyone tonight? its lonely.

maybe we all put the black mask on?

well i'm tryin to tend the earth right now so i can get a rose.

one time in an ig dream ihad amy and emily
were huge marianett puppets on the raffters of a log cabin playing
basketball! then it got really wierd!!!?

thanks y'all,
carolyn

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ben wrote:
>just thought you should know..ig is on mtv:)

hi everyone! :)

although i feel ashamed posting this (why?  you'll find out in a
minute.), it is ig-related.  you'll never believe where else i heard an indigo girls
reference on mtv...[never i tell you!  i fell off the couch in
disbelief!]  are you ready?

beavis and butthead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aaa!  can you believe it?!  now, for the 'feeling ashamed' part of my
post.  the reason i know this, is because...<whisper>  i actually
watch it.  kinda.  sorta.  ummm...;)  it is shown on muchmusic in the
wee hours of the morning which is perfect for those bouts of
insomnia.  :)

anyway, beavis and butthead were sitting on the couch criticizing
music videos. ("huh-huh...huh-huh...this sucks beavis.") they were
playing a music video featuring a duet by lita ford and ozzy osborne
[i forget what it is called] and during a close-up shot of lita ford, beavis
inquires, "hey...isn't this the indigo girls?"

which is pretty dimwitted because we both know that the indigo girls
consists of *two* women, but beavis isn't exactly a genius.  <grin>
anyway, despite the intelligent component of the show, i was happy to
hear the ig mentioned.  i suppose one could interpret the comment as
a put-down, but i chose to view it as extra publicity for them.  who
would have thought that beavis and butthead would have
even the slightest idea who amy and emily are?

i have no idea whether the episode was a repeat or not, but i thought
i would throw this "obscure place to hear about the ig" into the
fray...;)

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
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hey all you virginia people, and anyone who is close enough to richmond that
they want to drive down....what about a list party?

i know that there are several of us out there, and i was wondering who would
be interested, when, and where...any and all ideas are wanted!

please just write me privately, and i will see what i can pull together!

peace
tucker

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to those quiet lurkers who are interested in a possible emily
compilation( and to those nasty people who told me where to stick my
opinions. and called me all those nasty names..beginning with f and
a..don't bother cause i wrote your names down..that oughta add to your
angst!!!!!!)..e-mail me.

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i have just recently recieved an indigo bootleg with "danny's song" on
it and i was wondering if anyone could help me out with chords and
lyrics... thanks in advance...
mary

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ghost (emily saliers)
---------------------
[no capo; each chord is half a measure.]

d/f# g c(9) g/b (repeating, fading in)
[intro]

          d/f#          g             c(9)           g/b
there's a letter on the desktop that i dug out of a drawer
           d/f#         g                c(9)       g/b
the last truce we ever came to from our adolescent war
        d/f#             g              c(9)                   g/b
and i start to feel the fever from the warm air through the screen
         d/f#           g      c(9)         g6/b    c(9)  g6/b  d(9)/f#  g6
you come regular like seasons, shadowing my dreams

    d(9)/f#        g6              c(9)         g6/b
the mississippi's mighty, but it starts in minnesota
       d(9)/f#             g6               c(9)           g6/b
at a place that you could walk across with five steps down
      d(9)/f#                   g6            c(9)           g6/b
and i guess that's how you started like a pinprick to my heart
             d(9)/f#                g6              c(9)         c(9)
but at this point you rush right through me and i start to drown

            d          d#dim        em7          a7sus - a7
and there's not enough room in this world for my pain
d                  d/c#               bm7                   bm7
signals cross and love gets lost and time passed makes it plain
   d            d#dim     em7           a7sus - a7
of all my demon spirits i need you the most
c(9)      g6/b            d(9)/f#  g6
  i'm in love with your ghost
       c(9)    g6/b        d(9)/f#  g6
  i'm in love with your ghost

dark and dangerous like a secret that gets whispered in a hush
when i wake the things i dreamt about you last night make me blush
when you kiss me like a lover, then you sting me like a viper
i go follow to the river, play your memory like the piper

and i feel it like a sickness, how this love is killing me
but i'd walk into the fingers of your fire willingly
and dance the edge of sanity, i've never been this close
c(9) g6/b d(9)/f# g6
in love with your ghost

c(9) g6/b d(9)/f# g6
oo oo-oo ooooooooooooo oo-oo oooooo oo oooo
c(9) g6/b d(9)/f# g6
oo oo-oo ooooooooooooo oo-oo oooooo oo oooo

          em7            em7            a7sus     a7
unknowing captor, you'll never know how much you
           d      d/c#         f#7sus4    f#7
pierced my spirit, but i can't touch you
             bm    bm/a        e7/g#   g
can you hear it, a cry to be free
b7       b7         em          e   am   c      d      d/c   g/b   d
  i'm forever under lock and key as you pass through me

now i see your face before me, i would launch a thousand ships
to bring your heart back to my island as the sand beneath me slips
as i burn up in your presence, and i know now how it feels
to be weakened like achilles, with you always at my heels

and my bitter pill to swallow is the silence that i keep
it poisons me, i can't swim free, the river is too deep
though i'm baptized by your touch, i am no worse at most
   c(9)  g6/b       d(9)/f#   g6
in love with your ghost
   c(9)  g6/b       d(9)/f#              g6
in love with your ghost  (shadowing my dreams)
   c(9)  g6/b       d(9)/f#    g6
in love with your ghost  (ooooooooh)
   c(9)  g6/b       d(9)/f#     g6
in love with your ghost  (ooooooooh)

c(9) g/b d/f# g
[instrumental: repeat and fade]

notes on some chords:
* if you don't want to play d#dim (xx1212), play b7/d# (xx1202) instead;
it doesn't sound much different.
* i think the girls play f#11 (244300) where i've written f#7sus4 & f#7
(x44420 & x44320), and some god-awful g#m and gmaj7 chords where i wrote
e7 & g. do whatever you think works best for you.
* in the chorus, try playing the second half of d and d#dim (or b7/d#) with
the third fret on the high e string. it matches the vocals that way.

tab:

the picking pattern for the intro, first verse, and outro goes like this
(note the continuous d note on the third fret of the b string):

d/f# g c(9) g/b
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
b ------3-------3-------3-------3-|------3-------3-------3-------3-|
g --2-------2-------0-------0-----|--0-------0-------0-------0-----|
d ----0-------0-------0-------0---|----2-------2-------0-------0---|
a --------------------------------|3-------3-------2-------2-------|
e 2-------2-------3-------3-------|--------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

for the rest of the song, where it goes d(9)/f# g6 c(9) g6/b, it's a
little trickier (hint: the thumb handles all the notes on the e, a, and
d strings):

d(9)/f# g6 c(9) g6/b
e ------0---------------0---------|------0---------------0---------|
b ----------3---------------3-----|----------3---------------3-----|
g --2-----------2---0-----------0-|--0-----------0---0-----------0-|
d ----0-------0-------0-------0---|----2-------2-------0-------0---|
a --------------------------------|3-------3-------2-------2-------|
e 2-------2-------3-------3-------|--------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

and then there's this little fill in the intro and outro:

d/f# g c(9) g/b
e --------------------------------|3-----2-----3-------------------|
b ----------3-----1-----0---------|----------------3---------------|
g ------0-------------------------|--------------------------------|
d 2/4-------------2-----0---------|--------------------------------|
a --------------------------------|3---------------2---------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

listen everyone. me and a friend of mine from dallas are looking for
travel mates from texas to go to new orleans for mardi gras. it will be
fun and safe. we are going to set up and play music in jackson square so
if anyone has a guitar, singing voice, tamborine, bongos or anything
please, lets go to the big easy and party. get back to me, we'll be
leaving in about two to three weeks maybe a bit longer but we need people
who will commit for real.
and if you have never been to mardi gras believe me you are missing it.
so c'mon party people, wave your hands in the air. ----sonny

--sunchips
"i remember when we used to rock,
in da project yard in jersey
and little georgie would make the fire lite
as stolen cars pass through the night.....everything is gonna be
allright.."--bob marley

okay, both tape dubbing tape players in my house are messed up now!  it was
awful last night!  but my point : i'm trying to get a good tape player now,
and was wondering if anyone has any particularly good or bad brands/types to
suggest to me....
oh, and anyone i'm trading with, don't worry, i've got a way to make your
tapes, so it's all okay...dee, yours are actually going to be mailed
tomorrow, i finished them before the demons took over, and pooh and susan and
jocelyn, you were going to send me blanks...?  go ahead, i'll still make
those, i have...connections (flashing a loaded gaze...:)  thanks, all!  the
stuuupid player ate my sarah mclachlan tape!  bad!
love peace ponies zocks,
katy

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i don't mean to waste bandwidth - i haven't received anything from the list
recently and i'm trying to see if i've been accidentally unsubbed...

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is the list up?

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hmmm...i have a question here...

i subscribed the other day, got mail from this list, sent a message in,
and never received any more mail from the list. i didn't even receive
the message that i posted...

just wondering...

i was looking for some advice from guitar players....especially anyone who
plays left handed.  i started taking a guitar glass tonight and the
instructor recommended i switch my strings and learn how to play
right-handed?!?  he said now when i am just learning is the best time to
learn right-handed.  my question is once you get past learning the
strings/notes/chords....what difference does it make which hand you play with
???  i looked in an indigo song book i have (of course i plan to learn their
songs!!) and it didn't seem to matter in any way.  does anyone have any
feedback on this?  any information would be appreciated.

rose

hi hunny bunnies !!!
this morning i heard the anouncer on kplu
say the ulali was playing the seattle area.
i did a search on ticketmaster and came up
with a listing for sunday feb. 2 at the
everett performing arts center (or something like that)
that's all i could come up with.... just thought some folks
in the vicinity might be interested.

ciao baby !
binkula

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well, i checked my email today, and there was not the usual influx of ig
letters.  after consulting with maren, i realize we have the same
problem...wondering if we got booted for some reason?  will try to get on
again...if anyone can offer any help, my ears are open.  eyes too...

peace
sara

______________________________________________________________________________
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                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com

                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

                "we act empty and innocent, we are fueled by dis-
                tortions (i remember you when we were shiny and
                new) of lives led in discontent, trading misfor-
                tunes (now you guard your faith) cause faith is
                one thing that is hard to deliver (temper your
                speed).  it feels funny being free."  --amy ray
______________________________________________________________________________

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sorry about the nigc, but this has made me laugh for two days now, so i
just gotta share...sorry to the list members that i've already sent this to
personally...you know where the "d" key is.

disclaimer: i'm just the messenger...please no flames...this one hits just
about everyone, including myself...remember what emily said: "you have to
laugh at yourself, 'cuz you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't." (oh, i
guess this is sigc now....)

puhsonnally, i don't agree with tha paht abowt tha guy from pohtland maine.
we new englundahs don't tahlk like that at all. i don't know why some
people have trouble undahstahnding us...they must have a heahring
problum... (hehe ;o)

>>geekonics
>>by john woestendiek
>>philadelphia inquirer
>>wed., january 8, 1997
>>
>>news bulletin: saying it will improve the education of children who
>>have grown up immersed in computer lingo, the school board in san
>>jose, calif., has officially designated computer english, or
>>"geekonics", as a second language.
>>
>>the historic vote on geekonics -- a combination of the word "geek"
>>and the word "phonics" -- came just weeks after the oakland school
>>board recognized black english, or ebonics, as a distinct language.
>>
>>"this entirely reconfigures our parameters," milton "floppy"
>>macintosh, chairman of geekonics unlimited, said after the school
>>board became the first in the nation to recognize geekonics.
>>
>>"no longer are we preformatted for failure," macintosh said during a
>>celebration that saw many geekonics backers come dangerously close
>>to smiling. "today, we are rebooting, implementing a program to
>>process the data we need to interface with all units of humanity."
>>
>>controversial and widely misunderstood, the geekonics movement was
>>spawned in california's silicon valley, where many children have
>>grown up in households headed by computer technicians, programmers,
>>engineers and scientists who have lost ability to speak plain
>>english and have inadvertently passed on their high-tech vernacular
>>to their children.
>>
>>helping the transition
>>
>>while schools will not teach the language, increased teacher
>>awareness of geekonics, proponents say, will help children make the
>>transition to standard english. those students, in turn, could
>>possibly help their parents learn to speak in a manner that would
>>lead listeners to believe that they have actual blood coursing
>>through their veins.
>>
>>"bit by bit, byte by byte, with the proper system development, with
>>nonpreemptive multitasking, i see no reason why we can't download
>>the data we need to modulate our oral output," macintosh said.
>>
>>the designation of ebonics and geekonics as languages reflects a
>>growing awareness of our nation's lingual diversity, experts say.
>>
>>other groups pushing for their own languages and/or vernaculars to
>>be declared official viewed the geekonics vote as a step in the
>>right direction.
>>
>>"this is just, like, ok, you know, the most totally kewl thing,
>>like, ever," said jennifer notat-albright, chairwoman of the
>>committee for the advancement of valleyonics, headquartered in
>>southern california. "i mean, like, you know?" she added.
>>
>>they're happy in dixie
>>
>>"yeee-hah," said buford "kudzu" davis, president of the dixionics
>>coalition. "y'all gotta know i'm as happy as a tick on a sleeping
>>bloodhound about this. we could be fartin' thru silk perty soon."
>>
>>spokesmen for several subchapters of dixionics -- including
>>alabonics, tennesonics and louisionics -- also said they approved of
>>the decision.
>>
>>bill flack, public information officer for the blue ribbon task
>>force on bureaucratonics said that his organization would not
>>comment on the san jose vote until it convened a summit meeting,
>>studied the impact, assessed the feasibility, finalized a report and
>>drafted a comprehensive action plan, which, once it clears the
>>appropriate subcommittees and is voted on, will be made public to
>>those who submit the proper information-request forms.
>>
>>proponents of ebonics heartily endorsed the designation of geekonics
>>as an official language.
>>
>>"i ain't got no problem wif it," said earl e. byrd, president of the
>>ebonics institute. "you ever try talkin' wif wunna dem computer
>>dudes? don't matter if it be a white computer dude or a black
>>computer dude; it's like you be talkin' to a robot -- ram, dos,
>>undelete, megahertz. ain't nobody understands. but dey keep talkin'
>>anyway. 'sup wif dat?"
>>
>>those involved in the lingual diversity movement believe that only
>>by enacting many different english languages, in addition to all the
>>foreign ones practiced here, can we all end up happily speaking the
>>same boring one, becoming a nation that is both unified in its
>>diversity, and diversified in its unity.
>>
>>others say that makes no sense at all. in any language.
>>forget portland, this one could be used right here ....
>>
>>yankonics debate
>>====================
>>
>>      portland, maine, december 30.  in a move that has surprised
>> educators nationwide, the portland board of education announced today
>> that, beginning january 1, all portland schools would provide teacher
>> and parent training in yankee english, or so-called yankonics,
>> recognize yankonics as distinct from standard english, and help yankee
>> children who use yankonics to master standard english.
>>
>>      in its resolution, the portland school board described yankee
>> english as a distinct language, rather than a dialect of standard
>> english. the district  said it would not teach yankonics, derived from the
>> words yankee and phonics, in place of standard english, and would not
>> try to classify yankonics-speaking students as bilingual in order to
>> obtain federal funds.
>>
>>      both the clinton administration and congressional republicans
>> moved quickly to attack the announcement, with the administration emphasizing
>> that  it would refuse to grant special funding.  in augusta, gov. angus
>> king (ind.) defended the resolution.  "they're not trying to teach
>> yankee english as a standard language.  they're looking for tools to teach
>> children standard english so they might be competitive," king
>> told reporters.  an estimated 53 per cent of portland's 13,000 students
>> speak  yankee english at home and district officials say they have the
>> lowest average grade point averages in the district.
>>
>>
>>      reaction in the city was guarded, but supportive.  lobsterman john
>> nadeau, 43, of fore st. said, "every yeah it gets hahda and hahda for
>> ouah kids to get the jawbs they need.  i cahn't say if this will wohk
>> oah nawt, but at least its a staht."
>>
>>      the lunch crowd at demillo's echoed nadeau's position.  mary
>> lamoreaux, 54, of falmouth foreside concurred.  "i've got two
>> daughtahs, neithah of whom cahn undahstahnd hahlf the things they heah on tv.
>> something needs to be done."
>>
>>      patrick payson, 35, a developer at one city center, admitted that
>> he's found his linguistic heritage a difficult cross to bear at times.
>> "i went down new yahk a few weeks ago foah some meetins.  it took me
>> close to two days to figuah out what people weah tahlking about.  rest
>> assuahed, i was wicked confused when i gawt bahck."
>>
>>      some, however, were not convinced.  arthur wentworth, 87, a
>> scrimshaw artist in the old port said, "deah gawd.  yeahs ago no one
>> cahed so much about this soht of thing, we just went on about ouah
>> business.  i don't see  much use in this.  if people from away cahn't
>> understahnd what weah saying,  then they just ought head back to
>> massasstwoshits, oah wheyevah they came frawm."
>>
>>      asked if he'd lived in portland all his life, wentworth replied,
>> "not yet."

joni :o)

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anyone happen to have a copy of the "thin line" guitar
tab they could email me?

thanks.....

peace, love, & all things indigo,

jo
jmelnik@lucent.com

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is to help me take my life less seriously,
it's only life after all." -- emily saliers

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>
> 2)  also in a slimline, with grpahic art from rp and a whie border at the
> lieft saying maxi-cd single.  bar code 5099765804027, cat # 658040-2.
> mde in austria.  tracks:  galielo, excerpts: ghost/joking/love wil
> come to you/jonas and ezekial/kid fears
okay first off mine is not a cd single it is a cassette single   it is
sorta like this however this is mine
dcover  blue looks like stuff from galileo has a red demon flying a ships
wheel and a boat on fire with  a person on it the back has a great pic of
a and e bar code of0 9870-74326-4    catalog number of 34t 74326
side one galileo side to excerpts from ghost joking love will come to you
and johnas and ezeekial on the tape it says
produced by peter collins for jill music,ltd/recorded by pat
mccarthy/mixed by david leonard/mastered by wally traugott at capitol
records/taken from the epic release rites of passage 48865
then the copyrite symbol 1992 sony music entertainment inc
the back of the case says pretty much what it says up on the  tape and ti
also says
1992 sony musicentertainment inc/1992 sony  music entertianment
inc/manufactured by epic a division of sony music /666 fifth ave. p.o.
4455 new york new york 10101-4455/ epic reg u.s pat and tm off maeca
registrada/ some symbol is a trademark of sony music entertainment
inc/warnging all rights reseverd unauthroizd duplication is a violation of
applicaple laws
and thats what it says if u want i can get a scan of the front and back
for you and send it to u

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hello ig-land!
just a quick ig story.
last night i was a participant in a 2 hour music survey - you just sit
in a room with about 20 other people & rate artists & the music they
play on the radio (i live in seattle).
there were 650 short clips of different songs & about 100 artists listed
to rate. the rating system goes like this...you rate the song/artist by
this criteria...

dislike a lot dislike like like a lot

and you also rate how much you feel it is played or should be played on
the radio by this criteria...

too much not enough just right

they had 4 indigo girls songs out of 650 (not nearly enough). they were
of course, least complicated, power of two, closer to fine and
galileo... not big surprise there...
anyway, needless to say, i got a chance to put in a vote for our beloved
girls.
needless to say... here is the official vote...

indigo girls
like a lot & not enough (play on the radio)

ps - i looked at a bunch of other people's surveys & wouldn't you know
it - they all voted the same way. that's great! now maybe we will be
hearing more ig on the radio stations here in seattle at least.

in friendship....
lynn
>

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january 29
13061.3515@compuserve.com (joan morrison)
happy 31st, joan!!
somebody loves you darlinnnnn
somebody loves you i know
somebody loves you dearlyyyyy
why did you let them go?...
(jo miller/laura love connection)

january 30
bakerjo@caedm.et.byu.edu (jody k. baker)
happy 21st, jody!! (i'm not jealous, really i'm not)
well the meaning's changed, for what it's worth
it's just a senseless game...

k645501b@edinboro.edu (karrie bowen)
happy 26th, karrie!!
i finally found someone i could hold
you ask me to defend myself, as if i shouldn't be so bold, well
get that look off of your face
cause i don't have the time, you don't have the place...

january 31
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu (joan ferguson)
i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this, it's how it should be.

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg, who planted cedar trees last weekend (but not in a row)

in a message dated 97-01-30 12:48:24 est, mark writes:

<< and what of my friends closer to fine on vynal that she bought locally
also not as a import but as a regular 45? >>

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stop it ! stop it ! stop it ! stop it ! stop it !! stop it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stoooooooooooppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!
(cut it out !! cutitallouuuuuuuttttttt !!!) (just...let it go.........)
*whimper*

yknib

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hi everyone! :)

recently, there has been friendly debate discussing whether emily
sounds as if she is saying "git out the map". well, this reminded me
of something that we did on the sarah mclachlan mailing list (hi
xochitl! <grin>).

if you send an e-mail to the address jive@ifi.unizh.ch, they
transcribe your message into "jive language". i sent the lyrics to
get out the map, and they sent the following...

hope this brings about a few smiles. :) :) :)

chuckling,
lisa j. :)

get out the map

        de saddest sight mah' eyes kin see
        dat big-ass ball uh o'ange sinkin' slyly waaay down de trees
        sittin' in some bugger'd circle while ya' rest upon mah' knee
        dis puh'fect moment soon be leavin' me

        suzanne calls fum boston, de coffee's hot, de co'n be high
        dat same sun dat warms yo' heart, gots'ta suck dat baaaad eard dry
        wid everydin' its opposite enough t'keep ya' cryin'
        or keep dis whole wo'ld spinnin' wid some twinkle in it's eye

        and git out da damn map, git out da damn map and lay yo' fin'a' anywhere waaay down
        we'll leave da damn figurin' t'dose we pass on our way outta town
        don't drink de booze, dere seems t'be somedin' ailin' everyone
        and i'm gonna clear mah' 'haid, i'm gonna drink dat sun
        i'm gonna love ya' baaaad and strong while our love be baaaad and yung

        joni left fo' soud africa some few years ago
        and den bed took some job all de way ova' on de west coast
        and me, i'm still tryin' t'live half some life on de road
        heavia' by de year
        heavia' by de load

        why do we hurtle ourselves drough every inch uh time and space
        ah' must say around some co'na' i kin sense some restin' place
        wid every lesson learned, some line upon yo' beautiful face
        and we'll amuse ourselves one day wid dese memo'ies we'll trace

        and git out da damn map, git out da damn map and lay yo' fin'a' anywhere waaay down
        we'll leave da damn figurin' t'dose we pass on our way outta town
        don't drink de booze, dere seems t'be somedin' ailin' everyone
        i'm gonna clear mah' 'haid, i'm gonna drink dat sun
        i'm gonna love ya' baaaad and strong while our love be baaaad and yung

i'm gonna clear mah' 'haid, i'm gonna drink dat sun
i'm gonna love ya' baaaad and strong while our love be baaaad and yung

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"it's the end of the world as we know it..."
-rem
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anyone with a unix account can download source code to the program that
produced that, in order to be able to run it locally, from
http://www.netusa.net/~eli/src/jive

have fun! =)
kirsten

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on thu, 30 jan 1997, joann melnik wrote:

> anyone happen to have a copy of the "thin line" guitar
> tab they could email me?

since it's going to be a long time before its turn comes round to post it
to the list, here's one version. there are two others on my website:
http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/indigo/tab/

thin line - indigo girls, from 1200 curfews
(written by gerard mchugh)

this is my first attempt at transcribing a song so please forgive any
mistakes. it's quite simple though so there shouldn't be too many. for
g/b and g/a (these names are made up) you'll probably just want to play
strings 4 and 5, as if you were playing a power chord.

chords: g=320033; dsus/f#=200233; c9=x32033; d=xx0232;
g/b=x20033; g/a=x00033

g dsus/f# c9
[intro x2]

g dsus/f# c9
i thought the time was passed when i could

g dsus/f# c9
find beauty in a verse

g dsus/f# c9
i set the stage and the scenery

g dsus/f# c9
rehearsing every word, yeah

d d
but when i tried to make it more

c9 g
well it was always less

d d
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself

c9 g/b g/a g
and pleasing somebody e- e- else

dsus/f# c9
oh yeah

g dsus/f# c9
oh yeah all right

g dsus/f# c9
with my confidence on fire

g dsus/f# c9
i set to fixin' up my role

g dsus/f# c9
my separation of desire

g dsus/f# c9
just left me deeper down in the hole, yeah

d d
when i tried to make it more

c9 g
well it was always less

d d
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself

c9 g
and pleasing somebody else

d d
yeah and when i tried to make it more

c9 g
well it was always less

d d
it's a thin line between pleasing yourself

c9 g/b [play tab]
and pleasing somebody else

g/b em
e --------0-2-3---|------------3-2-|0---0---0-2-3---|------------3-2-|
g --------------2-|3-----2---------|----2---------2-|3-----2---------|
b ----------------|--0-----0-------|----2-----------|--0-----0-------|
d ----------------|----0-----0-----|----0-----------|----0-----0-----|
a ----------------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

g em
e 3---3---0-2-3---|------------3-2-|0---0---0-2-3---|------------3-2-|
g ----2---------2-|3-----2---------|----2---------2-|3-----2---------|
b ----0-----------|--0-----0-------|----2-----------|--0-----0-------|
d ----0-----------|----0-----0-----|----0-----------|----0-----0-----|
a ----3-----------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
e ----3-----------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

[solo - i'm not good enough to work out the tab, but the solo is played
over the chords to 1 verse, 1 half-chorus, and then 1 half-verse]

g dsus/f# c9
now i'm tryin to get back

g dsus/f# c9
what i know that i should be

g dsus/f# c9
hoping to god that i was just

g dsus/f# c9
a temporary absentee,yeah

d d
when i tried to make it more

c9 g
well it was always less

d d
it's a thin line between pleasing yourself

c9 g
and pleasing somebody else, yeah

d d
when i tried to make it more

c9 g
it was always less

d d
and it's a thin line between pleasing yourself

c9 g/b g/a g
and pleasing somebody e- e- else

dsus/f# c9
oh yeah

g dsus/f# c9 [play tab]
oh yeah alright

c9 em
e --------0-2-3---|------------3-2-|0---0---0-2-3---|------------3-2-|
g --------------2-|3-----2---------|----2---------2-|3-----2---------|
b ----------------|--0-----0-------|----2-----------|--0-----0-------|
d ----------------|----0-----0-----|----0-----------|----0-----0-----|
a ----------------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
e ----------------|----------------|----0-----------|----------------|
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

g
e 3---3-----------|
g ----2-----------|
b ----0-----------|
d ----0-----------|
a ----3-----------|
e ----3-----------|
+ + + +

any queries or if you work out the solo, please let me know.

mike hirschkorn, ps3023@bris.ac.uk
(during vacations: hirschk@dircon.co.uk)
>

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hi guys .. delete this if you want igc. read on if you want to help a poor pathetic me with your creative juices.. 'cause mine went the way of the dodo.

ok .. i have recently acquired my own ip address at work, and i get to pick the domain name for the computer. i need ideas for the name.

for those of you who are now going *huh?!* .. here's what i mean:

amy@______.homecom.com

i get to pick the word that goes in the blank ... get it?

so i need some ideas .. not only ig related, because the computer is my boyfriend's, and so he's got to approve too. but shower me with any ideas, please!

here's some that i thought of:

indigo

underworld

rainish (personal nickname thing *smile*)

coruscant (the planet the rebels made their base after they conquered the empire after return of the jedi (only one more day!!!! yippee!!!) )

odyssey

area51

the result would be (for those who might still be confused...) underworld.homecom.com or area51.homecom.com ... you get the picture (i hope)

please reply to me .. i'm sure the list has better things to do :)

merry thursday,

amy-bah-damy

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the truth is out there ... mailto:newsletter@homecom.com

i am going to ulali sunday night in everett at 8pm. anyone else going?
wanna meet there? e-mail me personally if you are interested.

peace and carrots
pj

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everything i truly love comes from somewhere far above
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hey...i'm just putting in a little vote for the song of the day revival...
i don't mean to sound completely selfish, but i'm pretty sure that there
are some others on the list who feel the same way when i say: so much
space is currently be taken up by guitar chords, lyrics, etc.....
which is cool -- i don't mean to bash it -- but couldn't people be emailed
privately about this?? the song of the day was a great idea...really
got us interpreting and relating personal experiences concerning
the amazing words to these songs we truly love..........and also gave
several people (counting me) new outlooks and perspectives. anyway,
just thought i'd share...

lesley

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well? is anyone gonna start? do we want to begin at the beginning,
or should we go backwards? or hey, how about a random song? i'd
write something myself, but i'm not inspired.

looking forward to some "meaty" posts....

anna

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to whom it may concern:

i've got a new e-mail address...i will still keep hold onto this address at
aol. no plans at all to drop it. but my new one will be my primary
one...too bad they only let me have 8 letters -- not enough to be mediamongr
<waah>

if you want me, i'll be at:
mindhop@one.net

about tapes:
will be sending out some more may 4 tapes asap.  ran out of copies of that
tape liner.  about trades:  i can't for a while.  i'd love to, but it'll have
to wait about month or so.  it's hard being a poor student (especially at
*my* age...)

enough outta me,
lorie d

http://members.aol.com/mediamongr/

thanks everybody : )

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really good deal folks.. $6.99 for a five pack of xlii 90's

kmarts have same sales nationally ! ends saturday!

mike r.
*buying tapes, and finishing his master copy of dave matthews/tim reynolds
last night -- two words: they blow minds...played longer than any ig show i
have seen or heard (two hours, 45 min.)*

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hey y'all,

i am not a doctor, nor do i play one on tv, but i think i can diagnose what was wrong with the list the last few days. it od'd on bad vibes. i'm just kidding, of course, but it was getting a little testy in here last week. i mean, i know we are all very different people on the list. we are women and men, gay and straight, young and not as young as we used to be. the point is: we subscribe to this list because we found an island of common ground - we all enjoy indigo girls music. am i right? can i get a witness?

okay, then, follow me on this. we've had plenty of arguments (discussions) about sexual orientation, politics, religion, public displays of affection, haircuts, release dates. you name it, we'll discuss it. in the past, if the line got drawn in the sand, inevitably someone would say, "what would the girls want?" or "what would they think of this?" i've always shied away from such presumptions, preferring to stay in my usual lurking mode. i mean, unless amy or emily specifically comment on an issue, who am i to say what they think?

this time, however, it is too much! i think mean people suck and i just bet they agree. just a while back, a thread about emily's appearance got mean quick. last week, there was a thread from hell on this list debating who is better at this and that, a or e. i think the debate alone is pretty uncool, but what it deteriorated into was just horrible, imho. not only did people post disparaging remarks about a and e to the list, they flamed each other privately about it. let's all take a minute here and raise up! unless i am missing something, i think a lot of what ig music is about is: human relationships, peace, love and understanding and respect. can i get an amen, here? i said, can i get an amen, my brothers and sisters?

my grandma always told me, "if you don't have something good to say, then keep your mouth shut!" of course, she also used to say, "i can drive my own damn car, i've still got sight in my left eye!" so - go figure! i always thought she made a lot of sense. she was a saint to me.

okay, sorry to ramble on so. if you will all just take your seats and ride quietly, grandma won't have to pull this car over again. now, get out the map and let's see where the hell we are going!

peace, love and good vibes,

susan
and the fabulous free-range egg sandwich making jocie

"music is the brandy of the damned." - george bernard shaw

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susan wrote:
>can i get an amen, here? i said, can i get an amen, my brothers and sisters?

amen!!
douse this list in holy water! (or burn it with strange fire...whatever)

...and coming from an very non-christian woman, that it an extreme vote of confidence...

let's keep it kind people, shall we? we're here to appreciate, not criticize.

...wheels in motion...
greta

"...and when i am negative, i will be negative only for as long as i have to be, until i can understand it, and then i will be positive...when i hate, i will turn my hatred into energy, when i am angry i will turn my anger into energy...and i will not be complacent." -a. ray

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ok, i don't remember if this was discussed before or not, but can we take a
minute on fugitive? one of my favorite lines in any song ever is "i stood
without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with freedom issing the
damned, i said remember this as how it should be"

this has always struck a chord with me!(no pun intended!=))

to me this song represents a person who has discovered something(maybe their
sexuality), and finally felt some freedom, but then had to hide it
away...but never wanted to lose it!

then realizing that everyone has "got to get burned" and that the "curse and
the blessing are one in the same" meaning that societies restricting views
come hand in hand with that freedom just discovered.

"we've got to learn to respect what we don't understand, we are fortunate
ones, fortunate ones i swear" so everything is all messed up in your head
and heart, but at least you have that taste of freedom.

does anyone agree with me, or do you think that i am just pulling this out
of my butt?=)

i just thought i would bring in a "song of the week" or however long this
thread lasts!!!

take care everyone!
peace
tucker

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i was aching with freedom issing

i meant to say kissing!!!
so sorry;)
tucker

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hello everyone!

well, seems like some people are supportive of reviving the song of the
day/week thread ... which would everyone prefer? per day or per week? i
remember we changed to to per week, so that people who receive the list in
digest form, or aren't able to check their mail every day, could get their
posts in.

would people be okay with starting from the "beginning," ie. the first song
of the first full-length album? (not counting the ep or the "crazy game"
single, unless people want to start there ...) if starting at the
"beginning" would be all right, then the song of the day is strange fire.

personally, i don't have any profound thoughts either, except to say that i
love this song. i've heard amy say that it's "dedicated to the reverend
jimmy swaggart," so it can be interpreted as being about the hypocrisy that
can be found sometimes in organized religion. the meaning that i derive from
it includes that, but also has a lot to do with feeling personally
empowered. this song helps makes me feel that being "weird" or "different"
is not a bad thing at all.

okay, that's it ... thought i'd attempt to get things going. everyone, feel
free to jump in!

anna

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>
>now it's coming to you; the lessons i've learned
>won't do you any good, you've got to get burned
>well the curse and the blessing, they're one and the same
>baby it's all such a treacherous *game*

>game or gain?? debate's open, or has this already been thoroughly hashed over???

;)

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>
>>game or gain?? debate's open, or has this already been thoroughly hashed
over???
>
gain!!!!! treacherous gain!
hee, hee, kinda like when i used to sing crazy jane...instead of crazy
game!!;)!!!

peace all
tucker

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date:         thu, 30 jan 1997 18:58:48 -0800
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ok we've been away for a few days =) but now that we're back together again
i thought we needed a little excitement, sooooooo here is friday's c-man
trivia ????????

        who said, "...i wanna go faster!  i wanna go faster!  i wanna have
sex in the           middle of nowhere!!"
        a) ani defranco
        b) mary magdelene
        c) amy ray
        d) emily saliers
        e) the chickenman (no, not me, the other guy.... geez....)

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       baby i said it's all in our hands                       r
i       got to learn to respect what we don't understand        l
g       we are fortunate ones, fortunate ones i swear - ar      s
o

uh... i read in the paper that shawn colvin is coming to the tower theater in
philly on march 6th. i've never heard her music, but i think i've heard her
mentioned a few times on the list. so, anyone, is it worth going to see?

west of bishes
shana (jak)

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date:         thu, 30 jan 1997 22:57:39 est
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there were some interesting posts about fugitive a few months ago (and i'm not
just saying this because one of them was mine =)) any votes for a reposting?
kirsten

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              jan 31, 97 10:14 am

on strange fire and the sot{w|d} thread:
i vote for doing song of the week; it gives everyone more time to get their
thoughts in, whether they get the digest or not.

strange fire is a good place to start because when this thread last died off,
we were just at the end of _indigo_girls_, and _strange_fire_ is the next
album in chronological order if you consider the epic release of sf rather than
the indie release. in fact, i was just going to post about it when i saw anna's
message in my box.

so, unless anyone has objections to it, let's say that whoever is logged on
closest to midnight (your local time) every friday, and has the inclination,
posts a reminder of
what the new sotw is (and yes, this is self-interested because i stay up late
playing with the computer pretty often, but it seems like a pretty good system
to me.)
kirsten

it seems that i offened some people about using all caps in two of my
posts. as for the first, my only explanation is i was angry and wanted my
post to reflect the fact. as for the second i wanted everyone's
attention. and didn't know better. thank you for the schooling.

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>at 07:31 pm 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>hey...i'm just putting in a little vote for the song of the day revival...
>>i don't mean to sound completely selfish, but i'm pretty sure that there
>>are some others on the list who feel the same way when i say: so much
>>space is currently be taken up by guitar chords, lyrics, etc.....
>>which is cool -- i don't mean to bash it -- but couldn't people be emailed
>>privately about this??  the song of the day was a great idea...really
>>got us interpreting and relating personal experiences concerning
>>the amazing words to these songs we truly love..........and also gave
>>several people (counting me) new outlooks and perspectives.  anyway,
>>just thought i'd share...
>>
>>lesley
>
>great idea lesley. i concur!  however, let me be frank in saying how much i
appreciate mat downloading the chords and lyrics even though they may be
cumbersome.  i've saved each one and passed on a few to friends who are not
on the list. and if i understood correctly, they are no longer available at
a previous site, so as far as the songs go --
>keep it up mat!!!!!
>
>your fan,
>tony
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okokok!!!!
i just found a universal connection to ig and sting
(which i know sounds kinda lame to some, but to
a person, namely me, who has only been keeping her pitiful
cd collection alive with these two artists for lack of funds...)
anyway... amy said that strange fire was dedicated to jimmy swaggart
and sting said that jimmy swaggart thought murder by numbers
was writeen by the devil, then sting added "only jimmy would know! ;)
i've now found the inner connection, sorta like figuring out
the answer to life the universe and everything is 42, but not
really knowing the question!!

sorry for wasted bandwidth, but man it was like a revelation!
now return to your regularly scheduled listserv...
anjeanette
ps chickenman.. make me feel better, did you get your tape?
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when they encounter neither opposition nor indifference?
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>x-sender: corinne@utah-inter.net
>date: thu, 30 jan 1997 22:40:39 -0700
>to: the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
>from: corinne <corinne@utah-inter.net>
>subject: re: new!! chickenman trivia
>at 06:58 pm 1/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> >
>>        who said, "...i wanna go faster!  i wanna go faster!  i wanna have
>>sex in the           middle of nowhere!!"
>>        a) ani defranco
>>        b) mary magdelene
>>        c) amy ray
>>        d) emily saliers
>>        e) the chickenman (no, not me, the other guy.... geez....)

>c) amy ray, i think that's an easy one to get. but did everyone know that
>she wants to have sex with me in the middle of nowhere? (which is salt
>lake city, utah, how convenient for me that i am already in the middle of
>nowhere)
>ha ha
>corinne

ok, here's a harder one folkies~~~

quick, name a group that jane scarpantoni *hasn't* played with?
................................ buzzzzzz....- sorry times up!!
now, name *6* bands that ms. scarpantoni has played with:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

bonus:
7.
8.

da chickenman

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       find another state of mind....                          r
i       you know we all need to learn                           l
g       to reach out and grab hold - ar                         s
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hey folks. just joined, figured i'd introduce myself.  i'm colleen.  i'm
a 20 year old junior at cornell university and hail from long island,
ny.  funny given what little play time ig get on mtv that both me and the
last newbie who wrote had our first exposure from videos.  in my case it
was galileo and actually now that i think about it, i think it was vh-1.
in any case, the part about the cute fuzzy bear cubs amused the hell out
of me so i ran out and bought the single since i was unwilling to take
the financial gamble for a whole cd of a group i didn't know. (they get
virtually zero radio play on the staions where i live, especially then.)
whoever decided to put the excerpts from other rop tracks on that
cassette single was a genius because they sucked me in immediately.  i
quickly ran out and bought the cd and soon after, all the previous ones.
   anyway, i also had a couple of questions.  just the other day i tried
to order the jesus christ superstar cd off of the daemon records web
site.  i'm pretty sure it didn't work cause i think i forgot to click the
box specifying visa or mastercard and i'm having some problems with my
credit card anyway.  but i'm gonna try again.  i also might pick up
something by michelle malone.  so i was wondering, has anyone out there
ever ordered anything via that web site?  did it work out ok and did they
send you email or anything to let you know they received your order?
   and speaking of michelle malone, i saw her when she opened for ig this
summer at the roseland in nyc on the practice tour and thought she was
pretty cool.  not the greatest songwriter maybe, but a hell of a live
performer.  so i wanted to get something of hers and give her another
listen.  anyone have any thoughts as to what's good if anything?  there's
actually a copy of an old drag the river album that's been sitting in the
used record store around the block from my apartment for months.  i don't
know ifshe did more than one album with them but i forget what it's
called.  i've been considering buying it but just looking at the hideous
photo on the cover, something tells me it's not gonna be too good.
anybody ever heard it?  thanks.

-colleen

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hi all.  i posted this to the newsgroup last year.  yes, this de-lurking
shows how self-absorbed i am :).  i only saved it because i love the song so
much.  but it's been edited-- now that i've learned a bit more.  the most
notable deletion being the identification of who it was written for i.e. the
person she was seeing.  not that i went about doing it in an indecorous
fashion in the original post-- it was organic to the discussion, and she's
mentioned who it was before in some context.  but, after re-reading it for a
re-posting, i thought it should be taken out if it means getting too close to
their personal lives (which is part of what the whole song's about). because
of a lot of the discussion and prying it might potentially generate in this
vacuum preceding "map".

so den. to the (long) post. apologies to those who had to endure it before.

otts
##
somebody posted a request for interpretations of "fugitive". here's what the
"swamp ophelia" page on their sony website has to say:

amy wrote "fugitive" during the indigos' last round of touring; not so
coincidentally, perhaps, the song ponders the conflicting demands of love,
work, and privacy. "got to learn to respect what we don't understand," goes
one key line. "that's when you're having a relationship and your relationship
is invaded because of what your career is doing," ray explains. "at the same
time, you're reaping positive things from your career, you're alive and
healthy...

"it's just saying that we have to respect the way things are moving, even if
we don't understand sometimes. maybe there's something bigger in the works
that we'll understand later. the song is more about wrestling with yourself
than it is about being famous--we're not that famous!"
_____________________________________________________
and here's what ms. ray herself has to say- i got these excerpts from
interviews posted here in the past year:
february 18, 1994 -- unknown

"fugitive" is - it's kind of a love song, but it's also, you know, it's very
abstract.  it's me, the struggle within myself and the struggle with someone
else to create commitment in a world of this -- of the music industry, which
is really kind of screwy.  and the ideas of invading privacy and-- it's about
freedom, really, and about the ability to be free.  you can be free no matter
what, you know. . . i don't know what i'm writing about half the time when
i'm writing, so i can't really - i can't, like, pin it down like emily can.
##
march ??, 1995 -- queensland pride
"closest to fine"  (interview by catherine mckenzie)

although they are practiced hands when it comes to touring, it is still
something that the girls find grueling. a testament to the problems it can
cause can be found in the girls' latest album swamp ophelia. the song
'fugitive' written by amy, looks at the conflicting demands of love, work and
privacy.

"my music permeates my life in so many different ways", amy said. "i have so
many other things going on, and my relationship is with a musician too. that
song was really about how you deal with being in the same career within your
relationship, where you're both dealing with the same privacy issues."

"my priorities have changed a lot and i think 'fugitive' is a recognition of
that. i used to be extremely career-oriented. everything was indigo girls, 24
hours a day, and a lot of it had to do with ego.  now my priorities are to my
relationship and to my family. i love music but we've gotten better at
setting boundaries and having parameters. i've also moved to a place and
no-one knows where i live so i don't have to deal with privacy invasion and
things like that."
_____________________________________________________
i scanned over all the articles i saved from this newsgroup-- i don't
remember which one, but amy said that she had been in a relationship for
about 5 years.  i believe the date was sometime in '94.  and a profile of ms.
ray in the nov. 16, 1990 issue of island ear (whatever that is), contains a
category of most significant achievement, in which amy replies: successful
relationship.  this is obviously something (and someone) very important to
her; think of all the other things she could've picked to fill in that blank.

love, work, and privacy.  "are they coming for us, with cameras or guns?  we
don't know which, but we gotta run.  and you say, 'this is not what i
bargained for'.  so hide yourself for me.  all for me."  the lyrics are
pretty straightforward after the insight that these interviews give us.

these priorities that amy refers to: the group 24 hours a day, ego, anything
that displaces a loved one from the closeness that's needed to make things
work: "i got caught up in the whirl, twirl of it all.  a day in the sun
dancing alone, baby i'm so sorry."  as musicians, they both have to deal with
these things: "now it's coming to you-- the lessons i learned.  won't do you
any good, you got to get burned.  well the curse and the blessings, they're
one in the same, baby it's all-lll-llll such a treacherous gain."

she says it's also about freedom-- the (lyrical) part that i love: "i stood
without clothes, danced in the sand.  i was aching with freedom, kissing the
damned [who? queers, native americans, women, immigrants, pwas . . . ].  i
said: 'remember this as how it should be'.  ho-oooh . . . we are fortunate
ones, fortunate ones i swear."  and then the reciprocity part that
demonstrates her understanding of this relationship's, and the person's,
importance to her: not only is it, hide yourself for me, but also "i will
hi-iide myself for you.  all for you.  all for you."  repeated to show her
conviction and her recognition, finally, of it.  the ability to strike a
balance, or at least devote the time and effort to the things, and people,
that can become obscured by celebrity: "i will hide myself for you.  all for
yo-oooou."

and to finish, a reiteration of that glorious image of freedom: "i stood
without clothes, danced in the sand. i was aching with freedom, kissing the
damned. i said: 'remember this as how it should be'."

whooo!  i've wondered over all their songs to figure which one is my
favorite.  and though it's difficult and heart-rending to single one out,
"fugitive" always seems to roar it's way to the top. never ever ever do i
tire of listening to it.  of singing to it. it has this momentum that just
builds and builds.  steadily, inexorably, wonderfully.  and the interweaving
of their voices is much more overt (like in "love will come to you").
intense, soaring, incredible stuff. i even learned how to play it on the
guitar!  so i am ecstatic.  forgive my phallocentrism, but i just love how it
works itself into a climax.

without reading those articles and interviews, i never would have conceived
of this as a *love song*. it's an incredible gift. could you imagine
somebody writing and singing something like this for you? <sigh>

otts

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hello, all!

this seems to have become public knowledge within the past couple of
days, so i thought i would announce it to the list:

the ig will be at my alma mater, mount holyoke college (the first
institution established for the higher education of women in the united
states!), on thursday, march 13, 1997. it will be in chapin auditorium,
which holds 1600 standing (i.e., this will be a general admission show).
the 1600 includes people on two balconies, both of which have great
views. so you can imagine how small the floor is. hint: if you don't
get a seat in the first third of the floor your seat will be better from
a balcony--go up!

ok, i will post more when i know it and please please please don't start
harrassing student activities because they already have tons to do and
they don't need aggressive ig fans calling to harrass them about stuff
they don't know yet.

margaret, who feels like this is the school's graduation present to her

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at 9:26 am 1/31/97, margaret clayton wrote:
>the ig will be at my alma mater, mount holyoke college (the first
>institution established for the higher education of women in the united
>states!), on thursday, march 13, 1997.

point of information:  mount holyoke is in south hadley, massachusetts.
directions to mount holyoke can be found on their web page.  here's the
url:  http://www.mtholyoke.edu/visit/directions.html

why does this concert have to be on a thursday? don't the girls know its a
school night? boo hoo.... :o(

have a good one!

joni :o)

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just got this from that sweet secretary @ rcam -

(770)333-7040 -- recorded tourdate announcement. nothing is there now but if
you obsessive atlanta types find any info out....

god, this is almost as bad as the dead or phish.

(it is not amy or emily speaking either, tho it would be cool if it were)

psyched for starwars,
mike r.

ps - my friend was working on bringing ig to maine -- the info i have is
not at my college, i dont know about any others.
(supposedly getting a much much bigger star. i will be psyched if they get
who they said they were. lets just say he's from nj)

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does anyone know whether it's possible to reserve tickets in advance for this?
i don't want to make a four-hour trip all for nothing. :-)
kirsten

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on fri, 31 jan 1997, anjeanette milner wrote:

> okokok!!!!
> i just found a universal connection to ig and sting <<snip>>
> anyway... amy said that "strange fire" was dedicated to jimmy swaggart
> and sting said that jimmy swaggart thought "murder by numbers"
> was written by the devil, then sting added "only jimmy would know!" ;)
> i've now found the inner connection, sorta like figuring out
> the answer to life the universe and everything is 42, but not
> really knowing the question!!

yesyesyes!! check this out... look what you get when you combine "murder
by numbers" with "123".

mbn - "once you've decided on a killing
first you make a stone of your heart..."

123 - "i understand your causes, sympathize the motivation.
but all the details of this war are just self-infatuation."

mbn - "and if you find that your hands are still willing
then you can turn a murder into art."

123 - "manic blood runs thick my friend, are you looking for a clean
escape?"

mbn - "there really isn't any need for bloodshed
you just do it with a little more finesse..."

123 - "here's a chance to make a choice, are you aware of the fire
beneath your feet?"

mbn - "if you can slip a tablet into someone's coffee
it avoids an awful lot of mess.

it's murder by numbers one two three..."

123 - "1 2 3 nothing's for free..."

ok, you get the idea. pretty erie, huh? yeah, i know, i have way too much
time on my hands.

tuesday's child

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good morning everyone!

i am very new here(hence the subject line).  i have been listening to ig since "indigo girls" came out.  not
the original with the other track on it though..gee, all of you know so much about thier music and i just love
to sing it:)  i am 21 happily married, no kids yet but 2 cats and one oversized 60 pound 10 month old puppy.  i
love the indigo gilrs along with sting(i liked the 123 idea).  i'd have to say i am madly in love with sting,
too:)

anyways, i just wanted to know if anyone knows if ig is coming to california anytime soon, or not soon:)

have wonderful morning! i have a horrile headache and i am staying home from work, again.

:)
selena

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don't give that girl a gun 'cause she's already won....

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its starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ig shows!!!!!!!! oh boy oh boy oh
girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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on thu, 30 jan 1997, shana smulyan wrote:

> uh... i read in the paper that shawn colvin is coming to the tower theater in
> philly on march 6th. i've never heard her music, but i think i've heard her
> mentioned a few times on the list. so, anyone, is it worth going to see?
>

i just bought tickets this morning for both of shawn's shows at the
variety playhouse in atlanta on march 14 & 15.  i saw her in concert for
the first time back in dec. of '95 in minneapolis.  then she was playing
by herself which was amazing.  this concert series is with her entire band, i
think.  it will be different, but just as good.  if you have the
opportunity to go, do it!!  she has a very warm stage presense and most
of her songs are personal and autobiographical.  in addition,  i'm told
that she is going to have two other performers with her.  freddy johnston
and a personal favorite of mine, patti griffin.  it will be a show well
worth your time and money, but get your tickets soon because i know
they'll go fast.

peace,

smackme

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i don't know why i get so excited about these sorts of things but i just
had to share. ;) another list i am on (billy bragg) started a tape loop.
each person on the loop made a mix tape of music with only one rule: "no
billy bragg." the idea was to expose other list members to music they
might not have heard yet. so every 2 weeks you send on the tape you
received 2 weeks earlier and if all goes right you get a new one in the
mail. continue til you get yours back. well one side i devoted to my
favorite ani difranco songs and the other side i devoted to gee i wonder.
well one of the uk list members just sent me a nice email about my tape
that made me feel all warm and wiggly -- and i quote:

"i've just spent 2 weeks with your loop tape and really enjoyed it. i
had some ani difranco stuff - but the indigo girls were new and most
excellent - i'll be trying out some more."

woohoo! i told him all about 4.5 and then went off for a bit about ig
related things that probably bored him to death but it gave me an excuse
to babble about the girls. ;)

kristina

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ok, so i am partly dismayed that so many people don't know where mount
holyoke is and party embarrassed that i didn't remember to say.

it is in south hadley, ma, which is 20 minutes south of amherst and
northampton and 20 north of springfield.

margaret

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>date: fri, 31 jan 1997 10:05:58 -0800

>reply-to: kristina <<andrade@az.com>

>each person on the loop made a mix tape of music with only one rule: "no

>billy bragg." the idea was to expose other list members to music they

>might not have heard yet. so every 2 weeks you send on the tape you

>received 2 weeks earlier and if all goes right you get a new one in the

>mail. continue til you get yours back.

ok guys .. kristina has inspired me .. i'd love to hear what other music people who love ig love. so anyone interested in an ig-list loop tape, mail me mail me, and i'll organize it.

yippee skippee what fun.

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we always do the major epic releases. how about we do covers and earlier
works?
let's start with ep...how about "lifeblood"?

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half moon cafe (emily saliers)
------------------------------
[actually in bb; capo 1.]
[it might be easier to play this with the high e tuned down to d;
then play a/c# as x42222 and e as 022102.]

d a/c# bm7 e-f#m-g#m
[intro; play four times]

       d            a/c#    bm7         e-f#m-g#m
at the half moon cafe, we drank to our lives
     d          a/c#     bm7    e-f#m-g#m
like pseudo-believers in love
                       d            a/c#           bm7
we've been through our holes in the walls and the dives
          bm7            g(9)          g(9)           bm   e
where you drink to recall what you once had a vision of

       c#dim        c#dim       c#dim   c#dim
and we talk of our lives in a prison
          bm             bm/a       bm/g#   e
though we both know it's better to be
a           a/g      d     bm7
safe within our indecision
     a                     a     e   e-f#m-g#m
than taking the risk to be free

and you were to be a great poet
and i'd find my fame in song
but we somehow saw failure more closely
than fame all along

and now you manage a hamburger stand
and i haven't found steady work yet
and we meet here to talk and pretend
that we know no regret

                dsus9       e                 a
but how much is chance, how much would you decide?
a           dsus9         dsus9    gmaj9
how much is murder of our dreams
    gmaj9      bm   bm   e   e
how much is suicide?

so you ask of my latest top 40
and i ask of your latest great fiction
as i step outside i see that the moon is full
i have to laugh at the contradiction

well, at least we can laugh at our dreams
though it's really much more bitter than sweet
sometimes through all of this fragmentation
i imagine what it feels to be complete

but how much is chance, how much would you decide?
how much is murder of our dreams
how much is suicide?

[repeat intro chords with humming; end on x02200-x02220.]

tab:

d a/c# bm7 e f#m g#m
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------3-----|------5-----|------3-----|------------|
g ----2-------|----2-----0-|----2-----0-|1---2---4---|
d --4-------4-|--2-----2---|--0-----0---|------------|
a 5-------5---|4-----------|2-----------|------------|
e ------------|------------|------------|0---2---4---|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .
[intro]

  d            a/c#         bm7          e   f#m g#m
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------0-----|------5-----|------3-----|------------| [play
g ----2-----2-|----2-----0-|----2-----0-|1---2---4---| three
d --4-----4---|--2-----2---|--0-----0---|------------| times]
a 5-----------|4-----------|2-----------|------------|
e ------------|------------|------------|0---2---4---|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
[intro]                                          at the

  d            a/c#         bm7          e   f#m g#m
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------0-----|------5-----|------3-----|------------|
g ----2-----2-|----2-----0-|----2-----0-|1---2---4---|
d --4-----4---|--2-----2---|--0-----0---|------------|
a 5-----------|4-----------|2-----------|------------|
e ------------|------------|------------|0---2---4---|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  half moon cafe,       we drank to our lives

  d            a/c#         bm7          bm7
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------0-----|------5-----|------3-----|------3-----|
g ----2-----2-|----2-----0-|----2-----2-|----2-----0-|
d --4-----4---|--2-----2---|--0-----0---|--0-----0---|
a 5-----------|4-----------|2-----------|2-----------|
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  holes in the walls and the dives where you drink to recall

  g(9)         g(9)         bm           e
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------3-----|------3-----|------3-----|------0-----|
g ----2-----2-|----2-----2-|----4-----4-|----1-----1-|
d --0-----0---|--0-----0---|--4-----4---|--2-----2---|
a ------------|------------|2-----------|------------|
e 3-----------|3-----------|------------|0-----------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  what you once had a vision of                 and we

  c#dim        c#dim        c#dim        c#dim
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------5-----|------5-----|------5-----|------5-----|
g ----3-----3-|----3-----3-|----3-----3-|----3-----3-|
d --5-----5---|--5-----5---|--5-----5---|--5-----5---|
a 4-----------|4-----------|4-----------|4-----------|
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  talk of our lives in a prison             though we

  bm/a  bm     bm/a         bm/g#        e
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ----------3-|------3-----|------3-----|------0-----|
g --------4---|----4-----4-|----4-----4-|----1-----1-|
d ------4-----|--4-----4---|--4-----4---|--2-----2---|
a 0---2-------|0-----------|------------|------------|
e ------------|------------|4-----------|0-----------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  both know it's better to be

  a            a/g          d            bm7
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------2-----|------2-----|----3-------|------0-----|
g ----2-----2-|----2-----2-|--2---2---2-|----2-----2-|
d --2-----2---|--2-----2---|0-------0---|--0-----0---|
a 0-----------|------------|------------|2-----------|
e ------------|3-----------|------------|------------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  safe within our indecision than taking the risk to be

  a            a            e            e   f#m g#m
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------2-----|232---0-----|------0-----|------------|
g ----2-----2-|----------2-|----1-----1-|1---2---4---|
d --2---------|----2-------|--2---------|------------|
a 0-------0---|0-------0---|------------|------------|
e ------------|------------|0-------0---|0---2---4---|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  free

  dsus9        e            a            a
e ------0-----|------------|------------|------------|
b ----3-------|------0-----|------2-----|------2-----|
g --2-------2-|----1-----1-|----2-----2-|----2-----2-|
d 0-------0---|--2-----2---|--2-----2---|--2-----2---|
a ------------|------------|0-----------|0-----------|
e ------------|0-----------|------------|------------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
...chance, how much would you decide?     how much is

  dsus9        dsus9        gmaj9        gmaj9
e ------0-----|------0-----|------2-----|------2-----|
b ----3-----3-|----3-----3-|------------|------------|
g --2-----2---|--2-----2---|----2-----2-|----2-----2-|
d 0-----------|0-----------|--0-----0---|--0-----0---|
a ------------|------------|------------|------------|
e ------------|------------|3-----------|3-----------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
  murder of our dreams,             how much is suicide

  bm           bm           e            e
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b ------3-----|------3-----|------0-----|------0-----|
g ----4-----4-|----4-----4-|----1-----1-|----1-----1-|
d --4-----4---|--4-----4---|--2-----2---|--2-----2---|
a 2-----------|2-----------|------------|------------|
e ------------|------------|0-----------|0-----------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ .
                                             so you ask...

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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ok..maybe i am just loopy..but in the beginning of hte watershed home
video when a&e are sitting down to dinner to decide the songs for the
evening doesn't it sound like amy says strange fart instead of strange
fire? just a silly thought. mr limes???

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i wanted to contribute to the 'song o' the day' woohah, but i simply
could not pick just one that i wanted to comment upon. so i am choosing
the ones that have the most personal meaning to me. i think part of our
respect and enjoyment of the indigo girls comes from how we personally
relate to the lyrics, music, etc. we get a lot more out of something
from what we bring to it.

"ghost" reminds me of my first boyfriend ever. i had always been
scorned as a freak, and there i was, with someone. then, he broke up
with me <for reasons for which i now forgive him.. we are friends> and i
could not get over it.. ever after i started going out with my current
boyfriend of 15 months, he would come "regular like seasons, shadowing
my dreams.." the lyrics are simply beautiful, moving, and emotionally
powerful. the music, though simple, is hauntingly sublime.

"fare thee well" is a song that i'm afraid i will have to sing one day.
i am leaving for college next year. i will have to say goodbyes.. maybe
to my boyfriend. it also scares me that someone i know might have to
"burn themsevles up just to make themselves alive". i do this sometimes,
too. some say i have a martyr complex, but ig often help me deal w/that,
b/c "if the world is night, shine my life like a light."

that's all for now. good night. i'm seeing star wars in a few hrs. :)

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here is the latest from shawn. he's doing a southwestern tour to
support _eggshells_ ...

  1/31 - eddie's attic - decatur, ga
  2/5  - borders books - ft worth, tx
  2/7  - cowgirl hall of fame -  santa fe, nm - 9pm
  2/8  - cafe oasis -  santa fe, nm - 8pm
  2/10 - jack's sugar shack - los angeles, ca
  2/11 - gingus cohen - los angeles, ca
  2/12 - hotel utah - san francisco, ca
  2/13 - st. michael's - palo alto, ca
  2/15 - fiddler's dream - phoenix, az
  2/16 - coffee talk - mesa, az
  2/19 - sojourns coffeehouse - el paso, tx
  2/20 - nm state univ - las cruces, nm
  2/21 - cactus cafe - austin, tx
  2/24 - cactus cafe - austin, tx
  2/26 - neutral ground - new orleans, la
  2/27 - m's fine & mellow cafe - baton rouge, la
  2/28 - sluggo's -  pensacola, fl
  3/1  - southern lights coffeehouse - fairhope, al

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>
> we always do the major epic releases. how about we do covers and earlier
> works?
> let's start with ep...how about "lifeblood"?

well, i guess i'd vote against that. the reason we've done the major
releases is most people can get their hands on them easily and
everyone can contribute to the conversation. the ep and other early
releases don't have the market depth. "had you ever heard this song,
you'd notice" isn't a great conversation builder.

anyway, just my two cents.

-- chris

p.s. i also like making it song of the week, instead of song of the
day. hopefully by the time we get through 12cc, map will be out an we
can throw that into the mix too!

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so far there have been quite a few people interested in the loop tape, and
i'm still taking email for anyone who wants to be on the loop .. i'll take
mail for it let's say til next monday morning february 1st..

this email is really to say, if you are interested and are going to email
me about it, please include where it is you reside in the world.

back to your normally scheduled ig-ness.

amy

ps- wow, i just heard some random punk-grunge band cover alanis
morrisette's "you oughtta know" - funky chicken.  and on that note, anyone
hear cake's cover of diana ross's "i will survive" .... i love this song
... i rock out everytime i hear it .. ok i'm done now. merry friday. merry
star wars day.
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hello everyone!

i do not have a lot to contribute in the way of concert experiences(never seen ig in concert, want to though)
but i can tell you about my favorite songs!

i, too have a strong connection to "ghost"
my first boyfriend(who is now my husband, after many a rocky start)has always made me think of this song.  i
still get all choked up with forgotten emotion everytime i hear the first few notes on the guitar from this
song!  i remember judging all of my relationships after this man by, "gee, he made me forget about eric for a
whole weekend".  pretty sad, huh?  oh well.  the song is beautiful:)  the music is wonderful.  i could recite
the words out of my head.  of course, i am sure i am far from the only one here who could do that:)

hmmm  another favorite line is from _mystery_
"and i could go crazy on a night like tonight when  summer's beginning to give up her fight and every thought's
a possibility..."  autumn is my favorite season.  the warmth in the daytime followed by the chill at night.
fireplaces start smoking and the last of the years harvest is in.  and you can, after the hustle and bustle and
play of the summer, go crazy in the laziness of fall.  i love this song.  it is perhaps, my favorite.

strange fire has it's soul rending possibilities too.:):) we won't go into that:)

crazy game:) that is me:)
"and if you're ever beleive'in, i'm thinkin' of leavin' look to the moo-oon, "cause it's a fact, she may go
wanderin' about, but she always comes shinin' through, and it's true....i'll wait for you..."

life is good:)

blessings and love to you all!
selena

read carefully

this is the magical grapefruit of love.  it has been bequeathed upon you
>>>by someone who thinks you are really cool.  this person might be
>>>your boyfriend, girlfriend, lover, pal, homie, hausfrau, neighbor or
>>>someone else you don't even know.  this person finds you rather
>>>interesting, possibly even attractive, and just generally thinks
you're
>>>a
>>>pretty good excuse to be alive. whether this person actually is
>>>attracted
>>>to you is another question.  this is merely a token of affection for
you
>>>to wonder at and appreciate.  the proper response, upon reciept of the
>>>magical grapefruit of love is a hug, or a message of thanks, if this
>>>person is too far away to hug within a week of reciept.  basically,
the
>>>magical grapefruit of love is a way to say "hey, you're really damn
>>>cool,
>>>and i want you to know that."  sorry if you were disappointed that
there
>>>is no actual citrus fruit contained in this letter. unfortunately, at
the
>>>time of writing, that miracle of science that allows grapefruit to
>>>travel
>>>through telephone lines had not been perfected.  but be consoled by
the
>>>fact that someone thinks you're really a rockin' guy/gal, and would
most
>>>likely help you out if you had a flat tire somewhere in the same state
>>>or within a one or two hour radius, depending on the size of your
state.
>>>the sender of the magical grapefruit of love only asks one thing of
>>>you-- (besides the aforementioned hug) that you bequeath this
grapefruit
>>>of love on someone else. the magical grapefruit of love grows in power
>>>as
>>>it is shared, and someday you may recieve this magical citrus entity
>>>again.  send it on.  remember the elation you felt the first time you
>>>recieved it?  if you send it on, you may feel this again.  this is not
a
>>>chain letter. nothing bad will happen to you if you don't send it on,
>>>but
>>> think of the bright spot it might put in the day of someone you think
>>>is
>>> extra marvy.

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on fri, 31 jan 1997, kristina wrote:

> each person on the loop made a mix tape of music with only one rule: "no
> billy bragg." the idea was to expose other list members to music they
> might not have heard yet. so every 2 weeks you send on the tape you
> received 2 weeks earlier and if all goes right you get a new one in the
> mail. continue til you get yours back.

that was a great story kristina, but what i was expecting you to say was,
"let's do that on our list...." wouldn't that be fun? i've been around
here since september and i've always taken note of the other artists
people have mentioned, and because of that i have become familiar with the
works of dar williams, catie curtis, kristen hall, shawn colvin and ferron
among others. now people are starting to ask about other artists and a
tape loop seems just the way to share some of our other favorites with our
friends around the globe....who's with me?

:) marianne
still the lone coyote, in case anyone has forgotten
awoooooooooo!

~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~()~

        ****            big moon, bright moon
      *      *          shining so very high up in the starry sky
     *   ' '  *         big moon, bright moon
     *    u   *         can you see people as tiny as i?
      *      *
        ****      ~o~           --traditional lullabye         __________
                 -=|=-                                        /
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__/    \__        ((       _____/
          \_______________/

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date:         fri, 31 jan 1997 20:24:53 -0500
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i wouldn't worry about singing fare thee well when you leave for college.
it hurts for a while, but then you realize that,

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*i'm not going to hurt you, hon...
i'm just going to bash your brains in*

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okay ignore my last post cuz i'm slow in my brain, and let's all get
together with amy (not ray) to do a tape loop.

(that would be amys@homecom.com)

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oops. sorry. my computer is retarded.

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

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i'm just going to bash your brains in*

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date:         fri, 31 jan 1997 19:41:16 est
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subject:      (repost) fugitive

by popular demand (okay, one person's demand (okay, one person's "sure. if you
want to.") :-d), here are a few interesting posts on fugitive from may 1996.

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date: mon, 20 may 1996 09:45:00 -0700
from: kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject: fugitive

hey y'all... at some point in the past week... it was put forth that we
start up the "song of the day" thread again... only make it "song of the
week"... the song for this 1st week ( starting here... starting now... )
being fugitive.
at places in this song, it sounds as if a is talking about the price payed
by celebrities in the loss of their freedom to just "be" without the eyes of
the public, both friendly and not, upon them.
then i hear/read the lines like: "i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a
kind she lives in my soul drinks of my wine and i'd give my last breath to
keep us alive"... etc etc, and i wonder if a is also talking about her "real
self"... the person she is inside. you know... the person you are with all
your hopes + dreams etc. as opposed to the person you become, or present to
those around you, due to outside things that you really have not too much
control over... me... i'm struggling to protect that "real self" of mine
from the day to day stresses that threaten to rob me of her. it would be
like throwing my hands in the air and just giving up, to lose the "real
kim". all joy would be completely sucked from my life if i did that, so, i
fight with tooth + claw to shelter her. i've been thinking a lot about this
sort of thing lately, so i guess that's where i'm coming from. i can't help
but piggy back all my musings + feelings about this onto the lyrics of
fugitive. it's incredible to me that almost every ig song is so open ended
etc. that individuals can bring to them their own interpretation... yeah...
i know other artists do this too... but i rarely listen to other stuff these
days... that's why i'm an ig fan... they basically fill a needful void for
me right now... and they do it so well.
anyway... to those who read this far... thanks for indulging me...
peace + inner peace :- ) kim
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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when you learn to love yourself, you will
disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
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date: mon, 20 may 1996 14:31:35 -0400
from: "kirsten, grrl o' destiny" <t1kchevalier@wellesley.edu>
subject: re: fugitive

kim fischer wrote:
>at places in this song, it sounds as if a is talking about the price payed
>by celebrities in the loss of their freedom to just "be" without the eyes of
>the public, both friendly and not, upon them.
>then i hear/read the lines like: "i'm harboring a fugitive, a defector of a
>kind she lives in my soul drinks of my wine and i'd give my last breath to
>keep us alive"... etc etc, and i wonder if a is also talking about her "real
>self"... the person she is inside. you know... the person you are with all
>your hopes + dreams etc. as opposed to the person you become, or present to
>those around you, due to outside things that you really have not too much
>control over...
i love your interpretation! to extend on it, this song seems to be about trying
to live day-to-day, compromising oneself in all the little ways that reality
forces one to, and in the meantime trying to maintain your own sense of self
-- not letting the way you act in order to satisfy the world's demands change
the person who you really are, deep inside. amy may have written the song
about the compromises she has to make as a "celebrity", but the experience
is universal -- no matter where you go in life, you'll have to do things
which don't mesh with your ideas about who you are, and you'll hear this
little voice inside you saying "this is not what i bargained for".
it's a great song!
kirsten

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date: mon, 20 may 1996 11:52:14 -0700
from: kim fischer <rcn@prcn.org>
subject: re: kirsten's slant on fugitive

at 02:31 pm 5/20/96 -0400, kirsten wrote (in response to my interpretation
of fugitive ):
> to extend on it, this song seems to be about trying
>to live day-to-day, compromising oneself in all the little ways that reality
>forces one to, and in the meantime trying to maintain your own sense of self
>-- not letting the way you act in order to satisfy the world's demands change
>the person who you really are, deep inside. amy may have written the song
>about the compromises she has to make as a "celebrity", but the experience
>is universal
yes!!!!! thank you kirsten... this is the "rounding it out point" my post
needed... the tie between celebrity + personal life that a may have been
writing about... so that we, even as non-celebrities, can fully relate. love
it... love this list.
peace... kim.
<kim fischer>
rcn@prcn.org
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when you learn to love yourself, you will
disolve all the stones that are cast -
amy ray
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date: tue, 21 may 1996 16:29:00 -0400 (edt)
from: "tracy weeks & several drooly (but loving) dogs" <clumber9@alliance.net>
subject: fugitive (dull & boring post... but at least it's igc)

        hey all!  i wasn't gonna' offer any 'tracythoughts' on fugitive b/c my
interpretation is so vastly different than those i read some weeks ago... i
figured that i must have just misunderstood.  now, tho, i see that if this is so
-  i am in good company!
        i, too, hear 'she lives in my soul and drinks of my wine, and i'd give
my last breath to keep us alive' as referring to fighting to keep one's 'self'
alive.  a rather long battle (w/ no winner as yet) for me, and most especially
in the past year or so.  this line makes me consider that perhaps that 'real
tracy' is something to try to hang onto... to the last breath, if necessary....
probably a good thing to remember now and again.  certainly not 'what i
bargained for' either -- do y'all remember how easy it seemed as kids
planning who we were gonna' be when we grew up?  somewhere that gets
lost....  i am definitely not emma peel, despite my best childhood
intentions. :-)
         'so hide yourself for me, all for me'  hits me differently depending on
my mood.. sometimes i hear it as 'i have to hide who i am just to survive'..
other times i hear it as being irony...  'hide who i am for me' which would
be opposite to the 1st interpretation, right?  yes, i confuse myself sometimes.
also, in the past few weeks i am interpreting this as coming from the outside
world as a *demand*, and i have to say that i find the offer in return of 'and
i will hide myself for you, all for you' more chilling than reassuring...  i think
perhaps this sums up what  often goes wrong in relationships - whether
romantic, family, or whatever...  i hide who i really am *for* my loved one
(to protect her?  to make her happy?  to keep peace?) and then she may do
the same (for same reasons?) *for me* and pretty soon neither of us know
who we are involved with, nor who we are anymore...  it becomes a cycle
that is hard to break free of.  it becomes so easy to give up yourself... so hard
to remember who you started with, and who you are now.  i would love to
come to the point of 'stood without clothes' (where in tracy's head 'clothes'
refers to the heaping on of other selves, but i may be weird), 'danced in the
sand, i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned' (where 'damned'
would be the 'real tracy' - thus being in a place where i could _accept_
myself) and be able to remind myself to 'remember this as how it should be'
(thus getting a grip on who i really am, and making a pledge to remember
her, and not let go so easily next time).
        just my odd and skewed opinions. in no way am i suggesting this is
where amy was coming from - just what tracy feels in this song.   thanks for
trying to follow along!  don't ya' wish i'd stuck to lurking?!! lol

thoughts to all of you harbored fugitives...  ('harboured' for the canucks)
tracy  <still not a member of the bandwidth conservation society>
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at 04:16 pm 1/31/97 -0500, you wrote:
>ok..maybe i am just loopy..but in the beginning of hte watershed home
>video when a&e are sitting down to dinner to decide the songs for the
>evening doesn't it sound like amy says strange fart instead of strange
>fire? just a silly thought. mr limes???

this (the fart post) struck me as sort of funny and i happened to
mention it to my roommate.
me: "this chick (pardon that, i didn't mean to be derogatory) on the ig
list said that amy ray says, 'strange fart' instead of strange fire."

roommate: "what?"

me: repeat above ^^

roommate: "strange fire?"

me: "no..(laughing)..strange fart"

roommate: "strange fire?"

me: "f....a....r....t"

roommate: "ohhhhhh!..sounds like your saying fire."

us southern appalachian girls gotta stick together,
cathy

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selena, i appreciated your comments on your fave ig songs. my favortie song
by them is "mystery," and here is a snip of what you said:

>hmmm  another favorite line is from _mystery_
>"and i could go crazy on a night like tonight when  summer's beginning to
give up her fight and every thought's
>a possibility..."  autumn is my favorite season.  the warmth in the daytime
followed by the chill at night.
>fireplaces start smoking and the last of the years harvest is in.  and you
can, after the hustle and bustle and
>play of the summer, go crazy in the laziness of fall.  i love this song.
it is perhaps, my favorite.

the reason i love this song is that it reminds me of my husband and me. i
knew him in high school and always had a crush on him, but he ignored me,
always just thought of me as willy's (he was friends with my brother) little
sister. the summer after i graduated, though, we started dating and
immediately became inseparable. those lines about summer always bring those
days back! what a magical time that was.

we are opposites in everything from temperament to personal interests,
except for our ideals and goals in life. so i love the last verse:

"maybe that's all that we need
to meet in the middle of impossibilty
standing at opposite poles,
equal partners in a mystery."

our 8th anniversary is on tuesday.

susan m.

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i'm off to see shawn colvin in boston at the orpheum on february 28th. it
was a toss-up between that and the beacon in nyc on the 27th.

i'm so psyched that patti griffin is playing with shawn.  two of my favorite
performers (besides ig and dar williams, of course <g>) at once.  and on my
birthday!  <g>

anyone else planning on going to the 2/28 show in boston?

laura

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