lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-02a


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date:         fri, 31 jan 1997 21:12:03 -0800
reply-to:     the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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subject:      (sigc) trivia
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who said, "...i wanna go faster!  i wanna go faster!  i wanna have
sex in the middle of nowhere!!"

i'm happy to report that everyone got this one right :)

ok, here's a harder one folkies~~~(sigc)

quick, name a group that jane scarpantoni *hasn't* played with?
................................ buzzzzzz....- sorry times up!!
now, name at least *6* bands that ms. scarpantoni has played with:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

bonus:
7.
8.

da chickenman

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       find another state of mind....                          r
i       you know we all need to learn                           l
g       to reach out and grab hold - ar                         s
o

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 00:27:02 est
reply-to:     sundara rose murphy <sundarling@juno.com>
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from:         sundara rose murphy <sundarling@juno.com>
subject:      i'm an idiot (nigc)

hi everyone.  well.  today i learned that if you accidently hit the
delete button when you are opening your email, and then accidently hit
return, you wipe out all your entire email world.  this is not a good,
fun thing.  so basically my email address book, with all my email buddies
addresses, is gone.  all the messages people have written me in the last
few days, that i was just going to reply to,  gone too.  (so if you don't
hear from me in a few days, this is why)

soooo, point of this story,  could all my email friends (ralph, claire,
betsy, kathy, and sue,  corinne, tucker, andi, dee, lynn cardamone, umm,
anyone else i am forgetting in my traumatized state)  please please email
me so i can get your email addy's again and feel much better about the
state of my cyber-life.

and now, i am going to figure out how to back up everything on disk so
this email catastrophe will not happen again.

love, sundara <--who, after this tragic incident, immediately phoned her
mother and whined "whhhhhhy do they have a delete key on the keyboard??
that's an accident waiting to happen"  and she laughed and laughed at me,
only addding to my trauma


"i was at bible camp fora  week, learning to be more judgemental"
        -maude flanders

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 01:15:46 -0500
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on fri, 31 jan 1997, christopher m. becker wrote:

> > we always do the major epic releases. how about we do covers and earlier
> > works?
> > let's start with ep...how about "lifeblood"?
>
> well, i guess i'd vote against that.  the reason we've done the major
> releases is most people can get their hands on them easily and
> everyone can contribute to the conversation.  the ep and other early
> releases don't have the market depth. "had you ever heard this song,
> you'd notice" isn't a great conversation builder.

        here's a possible solution to that problem. maybe we could elect
one person to send the lyrics to the sow to the list if it's not an epic
release?

> p.s.  i also like making it song of the week, instead of song of the
> day.  hopefully by the time we get through 12cc, map will be out an we
> can throw that into the mix too!

        and i ditto that about making it a weekly thing.

                                                tuesday's child

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 03:19:45 -0500
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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sat, 1 feb 1997 01:45:25 -0500 (est)
from: d menno <dmenno@ezdial.com>
subject: fwd: serenity prayer (fwd)

grant me the serenity to accept
the things i cannot change,
the courage to change the
things i cannot accept,
and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of those people
i had to kill today
because they pissed me off,
and also,
help me be careful of
the toes i step on today,
as they may be connected
to the ass that i may
have to kiss tomorrow.

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 01:42:02 -0800
reply-to:     gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
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from:         gwendigo <gkeyt@paul.spu.edu>
subject:      re: my favorite songs
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whoa, is it just me?

"i could go crazy on a night like tonight, when summer's beginning to
give up her fight..." (ig, mystery)
"i expected summer to be there in the morning, i woke to the alarm, but
she was out of arm's reach..."(ad, rush hour)

i have never thought that mystery used "summer" to be both a season and a
personification like i interpret it to be in rh, but it's worth a look...

*************************************************************************
"when i say you sucked my brain out, the english translation
is i am in love with you, and it is no fun."--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/notime1/home.htm

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 02:29:06 -0600
reply-to:     tracy - bounding to a new email address <trace@wolfenet.com>
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subject:      re: old igc fugitive memories ala' kirsten
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        wow.  thanks kirsten!!!  it scares me to read old posts of mine.
:-) ( of course everyone i am sure noted that they were all old posts and
that my email address on those was a couple ago and not accurate, so i am
sure i need not even bring it up, right?  )
        oddly enough, i still hear fugitive exactly as i did then so have
nothing to add.  that said, i love the revival of sotw.  so are we doing it
randomly or with some sort of predictable system?

tracy <who is 28 for the 2nd time today, and just got done watching 'the
princess bride' for about the 5th time.  tee heee.>

        my name is inigo montoya.  you killed my father.  prepare to die.

"mrs. peel, we're needed."
        - the avengers

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 12:07:13 -0500
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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      re: song of the day: strange fire

hi

strange fire is my all time fav song.

"an offering of love"
"a message of love"              "and its for you"

what a wonderful message to put out there.  the loving energy of this song is
so amazing.  i love(oooops there is that word again) to sing,play,listen too
and feel this song.  thanks to amy, what a wonderful gift.

"who delivered you the power to interpret calvary?
you gamble away our freedom to gain your own authority"

this reminds me of my own struggles with my spiritual self and the "religion"
i was raised with.  i once heard that my heart tells me what is true and
religion tells me what my heart should say.  i dont like that picture.  i
prefer to listen to my heart.

"when you learn to love yourself,
you will disolve all the stones that are cast"

self esteem/self love i struggle with this all the time.  over the years my
self love has tremendously increased, but i had/have a long way to go.

"to have the gift of true release
this is a peace that will take you higher"

i have a recording of sf where amy sings "you have the gift of true release".
i like that even better.  such an empowering message.  i admit sometimes
when i sing this song i cry.  to me the beauty of this song is so incredible.

"i come to you with my offering, i bring you strange fire"

i am an aries and have a lot of fire through-out my chart.  the healing and
/or loving energy of fire is powerful for me.  i also once heard of fire
having a connection with lesbians.  being a lesbian i am courious(sp?) about
this.  if anyone knows information about this i would really like to hear it,
please e-mail me personally.

ok enough prattling through my supper........

thanks everyone
love
pj


"this is a message, message of love, love that moves from the inside out,
love that never grows tired, i come to you with strange fire.......... a ray

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 13:34:38 -0500
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subject:      two things <-- nigc

first - i hate ticketbastard ....

i've been calling for over three hours trying to get ani tickets - but
metallica tix went on sale today too ... so the phone lines are completely
jammed ....  :(

second - if you live in the tri-state area ... listen to the buzz 105.1 fm
.... this station rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yesterday on my way home from work they played "i don't wanna know" off sf...
just now i heard "similar features" by me .... i rarely hear a song i don't
like !!!!!!!!!

the buzz rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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date:         sun, 2 feb 1997 02:56:27 +0800
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hello everyone,

in light of the recent discussion on this list of this train revised and the
holocaust, i wanted to share something with all of you that really moved me.
it is an article that was published in a newspaper which i help to edit, and
it tells the story of a genocide that is happening right now. the situation
in east timor has not been as widely reported as the tragedies of bosnia or
rwanda, though in recent months it has garnered some attention thanks to the
awarding of the nobel peace prize to two leading east timorese dissidents.

my apologies for the lack of ig content, and political nature, of this post
... for those that might have a few spare moments, please do take some time
to read this. i believe it will be worthwhile. it was written originally for
a filipino audience, but i believe the quality of the writing enables it to
transcend all boundaries. this is the story of a people that may not be
familiar to most of us, but one that demands our awareness and compassion
nonetheless. thank you for reading!

anna

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speaking with sight
by conchitina cruz

        images keep no secrets.
        on the empty walls of the faculty center's galeria ii,
images in the form of photographs emerged like apparitions to
speak wordlessly of a story long left untold. the usually dim and
silent hallway turned alive, its tiny lights distinguishing the
photographs from the shadows. despite the brightness in galeria
ii, the atmosphere remained dim as the startling images brought
the dark and harrowing experience of a nation before our eyes.
the exhibit, entitled "east timor: betrayed but not beaten,"
featured a series of pictures in chronological order of east
timor's struggle to assert its inalienable right to self-
determination.

painful history
        an island neighboring present-day indonesia and australia,
east timor became a portuguese colony for over 400 years.
nevertheless, the two countries maintained a very harmonious
relationship. the trials of the nation began in world war ii,
when japanese forces landed on east timor. australia, threatened
by the nearness of japanese forces to their own country, took
action by sending troops to east timor, who were aided in turn by
the east timorese. their assistance led to the success of the
australians, but the east timorese suffered grave consequences
for their actions. the japanese tortured or beheaded those
suspected of supporting the australians, while women were raped
and forced into sexual slavery. whole villages were wiped out and
the death toll of the east timorese under the mercy of the
japanese was from 40,000-70,000, which amounted to 10% of the
population. throughout this period, australia failed to offer any
form of support to east timor
        east timor underwent the process of de-colonization from
portugal and faced a new opponent after world war ii. its
neighbor indonesia, realizing its gradual development into an
independent country, feared that other islands in their
archipelago would follow suit and assert their own independence.
furthermore, the island of timor had rich oil reserves which
indonesia was interested in. these reasons formed indonesia's
ambition to control the small, democratic country.
toward the end of 1975, indonesia launched a full military
attack on east timor, and the country declared its independence
as an act of defiance against invaders. rape, torture, and
executions were prevalent. indonesia made sure that hardly any
news of the atrocities were made known to the world. for the
first three years after the invasion, practically two-thirds of
the east timorese population lived in the mountains as the
resistance.
        indonesia gained full control of east timor in early 1979,
starting a famine in the mountains with the help of planes
donated by the usa. they accomplished this by dropping bombs on
the people's food supplies. the population was forced out of the
mountains into resettlement camps under the indonesian military.
nevertheless, the resistance regrouped in the early 1980s to
continue the struggle. between 1975-1989, east timor had practically
no contact with the outside world. observers believe
that the total death toll due to the indonesian invasion is an
enormous 250,000 or more over the past 20 years, around one-third
of the population. east timor opened its doors to the world in
1989, with the east timorese forcefully expressing their desire
to become an independent country. rallies during the pope's and
the us ambassador's visits were violently dispersed. in 1991,
hundreds of east timorese were killed in a peaceful
demonstration. photographs of the event, known as the "dili
massacre," were smuggled out of the country and sparked
international concern. the pictures greatly increased world
awareness of the atrocities in east timor, for it was the first
time such a massacre was captured on film.
        currently, human rights violations continue to occur in
great numbers in east timor, despite discussions of the country's
plight in many conferences. nevertheless, world recognition of
the country's oppression was emphasized in december 1996, when
two of east timor's leaders were jointly awarded the nobel peace
prize. the recipients were bishop carlos belo, leader of east
timor's catholic church, and jose ramos horta, the exiled
resistance leader.

speaking through images
        the images in "east timor: betrayed but not beaten"  blatantly
portray the existence of an entire nation's suffering and
oppression. the photographs temper and conceal nothing, not the
mangled bodies covered by bruises and blood or the bony frames of
starved children. in one picture, several indonesian soldiers
pose before a camera holding up two severed heads of east
timorese rebels. the heads are considered trophies, and one
soldier smiles proudly as he displays his accomplishment. one
photograph shows two dead east timorese women lying naked, their
bodies surrounded by soldiers. in another, two children, one with
a severed arm, lie asleep on a dirty street. such an image
becomes more startling when one considers that indonesian
soldiers usually chop an arm off male children to prevent them
from growing up to be fighters in the resistance. practically all
atrocity photographs are smuggled out of east timor, like dark,
dirty secrets to be revealed to the public.
        but not all pictures at "east timor: betrayed but not beaten
portray despair. despite the dim atmosphere in galeria ii, bright
images of hope stand out amid the shadows. a black and white
photograph of a young girl smiling next to a rice field sharply
contrasts the images of violence. the picture, taken before the
indonesian invasion, exudes a kind of tranquility greatly visible
in the girl's bright eyes.  some resonate with hope, such as
those of leaders of the east timorese resistance who inspired the
people to stand for their rights despite the harshest struggles.
        the caption below a colored photograph of a beautiful, young
woman tells the story of maria gorete, who suffered torture and
sexual abuse from indonesian soldiers many times yet continued to
work actively for the resistance until she "disappeared." a rally
scene shows timorese leader nicolau lobato, who was eventually
killed by indonesian soldiers. this picture becomes particularly
striking when one discovers that the young man inconspicuously
behind lobato is xanana gusmao, a poet who eventually became
leader of the resistance. in the same picture, before lobato is
rosa bonaparte, a leader of an east timorese women's organization
who was raped and murdered on the day of the invasion by
indonesian troops.
        the photographs in "east timor: betrayed but not beaten"
resonate with a message: _never forget, never forget_. such an
admonition is not lost on us filipinos, since the country has
undergone similar yet less bloody struggles. the thousands of
east timorese seem ask us not to lose sight of their dreams for
their country. such stories as the oppression of east timor can
never be left untold and can never be forgotten. we walk the
length of the hallway, watch their history unfold before our
eyes, and hear their voices speak outside the images, telling a
story that is not only theirs, but is also our own.

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date:         sat, 1 feb 1997 15:26:29 -0500
reply-to:     joe hamilton <hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
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from:         joe hamilton <hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu>
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hiya folks :)

i'm happy to announce i just picked up a couple e.p's. while this is
wonderful news to me, it's just the opposite to my bank account. so i'm
going to try something that i've been wanting to try for a while. i'm
gonna have an auction. i have rounded up a few things that i have extra
copies of to offer. i'm wanted to try to have a few things from different
price ranges so that everyone that felt like participating could do so. i
liked the last idea of assigning i.d's. so here's how it will work. i'll
post the list of items i have. each item will have a name...and then a
description of the condition/song list/other items of note. write me with
your bids..and you should just be able to list the items as such:
joking - .50
strangefire - 5.00
and so on. i'll reply with your bidder i.d.
then if you would like a current list of the high bids. drop me a line and
put auction update as the subject line. you'll get a reply listing the
current bids on all the items. feel free to write for updates as often as
you like! i was gonna do a web page with the current bids, but too many
people don't have access. postage will be extra. there are no mininum
bids...but be nice cuz this is for the web site and other ig stuff :).
if you have any questions about the items or anything else..feel free to
ask! condition ratings will be from 1 to 10 and there will be a separate
rating for cover and disc/vinyl if necessary. basically i'll only mention
condition if there is something i think you should know before you bid.
i guess that covers it. have fun =)
oh yeah..pictures of some items are availible on my web site in the
collectibles archive. http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

format:
item number) item name - description

1)hammer and nail   - promotional only cd single.

2)galileo digipak   - promotional only cd single in digipak
                        brand new and sealed!

3)i don't wanna talk about it   - promotional only cd single

4)three hits - promotional only e.p.
                            song list:  three hits
                                        galileo
                                        joking
                                        ghost
                                        jonas & ezekial

5)joking   - promotional only cd single

6)galileo jewel - promotional only cd single - jewel case
                        (cover sleeve has water damage - disc is fine)

7)rites of passage - promotional only - full album - no cover sleeve
                        black/white back with song times

8)touch me fall - promotional only cd single - digipak
                        (teensy dings on outside corners of digipak)

9)closer to fine - promotional only - white label - 7" vinyl
                        in epic sleeve

10)club r & r - club r & r and epic records present an acoustic
                evening with the allman brothers band & the
                indigo girls. promotional only - live
                (cover and disc show wear - plays fine)

        song list:      indigo girls       allman brothers
                        ------------       ---------------
                        welcome me         come on in my kitchen
                        galileo            seven turns
                        joking             midnight rider
                        ghost              southbound
                        three hits         in memory of elizabeth reed
                        closer to fine     goin' down the road
                        the water is wide  melissa

11)strange fire - indigo records ( 12" vinyl )
                  the two outside corners (by the opening) of the cover
                  show a small amount of wear but are o.k.. there is a
                  good sized crease along the bottom left corner. there
                  are also a couple divets in the top right. with the
                  exception of the one large crease, there are a few
                  small creases here and there. the original sleeve is
                  missing. the vinyl is in fine shape. this is a very
                  good starter strangefire. the cover isn't all that
                  great but the vinyl is in very nice shape with only
                  a few small scratches that would not effect play.
                  recommended to start a collection!
                  cover 5 sleeve 0 vinyl 8.75
                  since this would make a perfect start to a collection,
                  whoever wins the strangefire will also receive a
                  used-in-concert guitar pick as a gift addition to
                  their collection.


mail bids to hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu

we are fortunate ones,
joe

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hey guys,

just heard, the ig realese date for the new album has been pushed forward
2 months. was going to be released in april, now it's not going to be
released till may.

is it true?

sharon

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reply-to:     wendell lee <wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>
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where did you hear this from?  i don't want to wait!

also, i am wondering if anyone out there has a good copy of the study
hall/studio outakes boot.  i mean one without a lot of hiss.  i have a
bunch of boots i can trade with...

wendell

> hey guys,
>
> just heard, the ig realese date for the new album has been pushed forward
> 2 months. was going to be released in april, now it's not going to be
> released till may.
>
> is it true?
>
> sharon

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>just heard, the ig realese date for the new album has been pushed forward
>2 months. was going to be released in april, now it's not going to be
>released till may.
>is it true?

i hate to say it, but it's true.

a buddy at epic confirmed that the release date has now been pushed back
until april 29th.  if you think about it, this release date sounds more like
previous ig dates (previous albums have release dates around may).
strategically, this may be better for sales/radio play/whatever due to
march/april being packed months for releases.

also....does anyone know which rolling stone issue that that little article
about ig was in not too long ago?  if anyone can tell me, please email me
privately with this info.  thanks

--sue

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"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
                                -- amy ray

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hi y'all,

we are having a list party at greta's.  bill(decatur dude), scooter jeff, elizabeth ann, anna mae, danny(with many rings), tanner(she who keepeth fucking up), sajarez, galileo(moo), harriet the spy(notebook in hand) and cortez(what a killer).  oh yeah...and greta and pj.

we had tabouli, watched amy scream and cross her eyes at helicopters, listened to viva la diva/amy-cooper discourse (biting and licking included), and we didn't talk about those indigogo people once!  (yeah right!)
woo hoo!

...and sundara, we misssssss you!!!!....

buh-bye!

greta n' pj

"i asked my love what will breathe eternally?" -a. ray

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date: thu, 30 jan 1997 21:59:39 -0500 (est)
from: brooke barnes mc daniel <mcdanie@umich.edu>
to: allison mixter <randsss@aol.com>, andrea strutt <strutt@bc.edu>,
    ashley haines <ahaines160@aol.com>,
    beth cleary <ecleary1@ic3.ithaca.edu>,
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    carolyn smith <csmith6@richmond.edu>,
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    courty <ssi2!cmcdanie@ssisys.attmail.com>,
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    jill mackay <jm256365@wcupa.edu>, jimmy hanson <jimmyhans@aol.com>,
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    steve wiesenthal <stephen.d.wiesenthal@dartmouth.edu>,
    tori kopacz <tori765a@aol.com>, acs@aol.com
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you guys this is important to me! send it on to as many people as you
know!
brooke

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from: "mista kurtz...he dead" <ivw@umich.edu>
to: acs@aol.com, "ryan e. baker" <bakerm@newtrier.k12.il.us>,
    erin millender <eam22@aol.com>,
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sorry for the forwarded message, but this one does some good.
for those of you whom i owe mail to, i'll get around to that soon.

isra


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jinkies!

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>>this email can donate 3 cents to cancer research by the american cancer
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fave song thread....

i am so glad to be back in the email world after a big huge absence
while i worked 40 hour weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!


um


my favorite songs are

strange fire (i just adore it, it is so positive and passionate and
beautiful and perfect)
love's recovery
virginia woolf
love will come to you
ghost and
the wood song

of course, i do love many more.....


i guess that's why they're tied for my favoriete musicians in the
world and possibly universe (although i'm not ruling out possible
music from babes on venus)


um


i am tired and babbling

sorry!!!

love

larissa

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from:         "georgy v. cohen" <sprocket@scorequest.com>
subject:      how could i forget.. "lwcty" fave song

gee, how could i forget "love will come to you"!? this song means so
much to me... i often quote these lines when consoling my friends who
have yet to be graced by the beauty of love:

and i wish her insight to battle love's blindness
strength from the milk of human kindness
a safe place for all the pieces that scattered
learn to pretend there's more than love that matters. <<<|
   ______________________________________________________|
   |
   that's what i used to have to do all the time.. until love finally
came to me.. now this is what i share with others..
as a writer, the lines "and my words are paper tigers/no match for the
predator of pain inside her" leave me feeling hopeless. i want
desperately for my words to have an impact upon those to whom i speak..
i want to help. to not be able to is torture.

oh, and it is so appropriately followed by "romeo and juliet". who is
the person who wrote that song, and what is the story behind it?
anyways.. it is a very powerful and moving song. i get very emotional
when i sing it. and remember the thread a while back about some of the
songs alluding the homosexuality? i'm not saying one way or the other,
but addressing 'juliet' could be such an allusion.. just a possiblity.

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>fave song thread....
>
>i am so glad to be back in the email world after a big huge absence
>while i worked 40 hour weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>um
>
>
>my favorite songs are
>
>strange fire (i just adore it, it is so positive and passionate and
>beautiful and perfect)
>love's recovery
>virginia woolf
>love will come to you
>ghost and
>the wood song
>
>of course, i do love many more.....
>
>
>i guess that's why they're tied for my favoriete musicians in the
>world and possibly universe (although i'm not ruling out possible
>music from babes on venus)
>
>
>um
>
>
>i am tired and babbling
>
>sorry!!!
>
>love
>
>larissa
>

i love "the wood song," too, for the same reason i love "let it be me."
inspiration.

can i ask what the other band is you have tied with ig?

susan malmrose
sequim,wa

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  hey kind friends~~  all good things must come to an end and so has the
c-man's 5-4-96 nojf *free* boot offer.  thanx to all who humored me and
played along :)
        unfortunately, only *4* people (not *5*) succeeded in correctly
answering all ten questions, and (drumroll, please...) the winners are:

        grand prize:    (newbie!) cindy boyd - who was the only person to
get *all 10                            correct* on her first try.
congrats.... rainy day woman!!
                        (not so newbie ;) sue kwan
                        (almost graduated) marianne barlow
                and---  (misplaced texan) sara mccutchen

        all tapes have been sent and should arrive within a few days, except
for sara's whose bootie is travelling by rickshaw ...... how long does it
take to get to japan anyway ;)

and here are the *official* answers:

                                questions (10)

#1      amy's chickenman song -
        amy said, "i wrote this song when i was thinking about":
        b) all these spare parts you see lying in the middle of the road

        >spare animal parts scattered on the roadway - euuuuhhh!!<

#2      as a kid, who did emily dress up as?
         d) michael jackson

        >no one wanted to believe it!!!!<

#3      amy's chickenman song -
        on the road to athens, i saw a:
        a) dead deer

#4      a capo is:
        d) a musical apparatus

#5      the chickenman is:
        c) really cool looking

        >hey, amy said it, not me<

#6      on the side of the road, the chickenman was trying to sell amy:
         e) none of the above

        >this one threw a few off.  the key word here was "trying"..
according to amy the c-man didn't want to sell her anything; albeit the song
contradicts this with "he sold me junk and conversation".  but junk and
conv. was not a choice, so the best answer was e)<

#7      emily has a:
        e) all of the above

#8      emily was born at:
        c) new haven, ct

#9      true:
        amy's tattoo is a sioux indian symbol for love inside a hand, and
        basically means love.

#10     what year did ig's win a grammy award?
        1989 (although it seems they actually received the award in 1990)


folkisgruven~
da chickenman

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subject:      favorite songs

hey everyone, i'm new to the mailing list, but i've been a fan for a few
years now. just thought i'd make my first contribution and say that my
favorite songs are:

the wood song-- it's so beautiful, the first time i heard it, i had to listen
to it over
                           and over

romeo and juliet-- i know it's originally theirs, but i love the line, "i
can't do anything,
                            but i would do anything for you. i can't do
anything except be in
                            love with you."

mystery-- "oh you set up your place in my thoughts; moved in and made my
thinking
               crowded."

least complicated--for this one line: "and the next time i fall, i'm gonna
have to
                             recall it isn't love, it's only something new."
and the awesome
                             harmony during that part.

well, thanks for listening!!

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if possible i would like to be put on the indigo girls subscription list.  my
screen name is indigo746@aol.com

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please send me information on how i can subscribe to this mailing list!
thanks a lot!

shells

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selena wrote:
>
> hello everyone!
>
> i do not have a lot to contribute in the way of concert experiences(never seen ig in concert, want to though)
> but i can tell you about my favorite songs!
> life is good:)
> blessings and love to you all!
> selena


how could i have forgotten!!!???

blood and fire:):)
talk about pain and passion:):(
love/hate this song:)
love to you all!
selena

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does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list?

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>
> does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list?
>
i think this speaks for itself, don't you?
kirsten

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that message about aol was a joke--read the whole thing.

susan m.

>>
>> does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list?
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>i think this speaks for itself, don't you?
>kirsten
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hmm. . .we must be entering the 21st century when people are stereotyped by
their internet provider. i can't imagine what would be said about prodigy
users?? we're higher on the food chain, i hope. this is gonna kill my social
life now that i'm on aol. i'm just joking around. ok, ok so maybe a few of us
don't understand the proper netiquette, we're not all bad. hey. . . . i found
the post funny.

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on sun, 2 feb 1997 okimo4@aol.com wrote:

> does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list?
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on the contrary, if you received kirstan's message, it means you had
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just a mental note...while i have some thought processes going...kristen
chevaliear wrote that fugitive might be about "harboring" the real self
from what we have become.  i agree (and am so happy that this list is hear
to read my opinions) whole heartedly...and kris mckay sings a song with a
similar message..."fool that i am" --  about having to fulfill an
image/persona that you have unwantingly become yet really desiring to be
honest with yourself and others...being what your heart and soul tell you.

and i am so glad that i have these two songs to remind me to be true to
myself.  one of the hardest decisions i have ever had to make was whether
or not to stay in japan another year...and i chose not to...for the simple
reason that i am not able to be me here.  japan is a vastly different place
(if anyone is still reading....ho, hum) and i find it hard to chalk my
suppressions (of ideals, values, meaning of life for me) up to "cultural
experience."  glad i have chosen to experience this and learn that i need
to be me to be happy.

another tribute to the songwriters who can say better than i what my brain
and heart are telling me...

______________________________________________________________________________
                                sara mccutchen
                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com


                "let me die trying...if i fall at least my heart
                will have been true. let me die trying...i can't
                cry tomorrow if i do."   --kristen hall

                "we act empty and innocent, we are fueled by dis-
                tortions (i remember you when we were shiny and
                new) of lives led in discontent, trading misfor-
                tunes (now you guard your faith) cause faith is
                one thing that is hard to deliver (temper your
                speed).  it feels funny being free."  --amy ray
______________________________________________________________________________

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and is she pissed!!!she heard you're being nasty to the new kids who
still haven't learned how to work their new christmas toys again!!
you just wait till dad gets home!

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in a message dated 97-02-02 14:20:23 est, okimo4@aol.com writes:

>does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list?
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>

okay, i guess i don't have to say anything but, ohmig_d................
counting the days til her school address is up and running...
julie

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okay, i have a random question, i know you can do signatures for newsgroups
on aol, but is there any way you can do them for mailing lists, or no?
curious,
julie

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just to continue this discussion on "ghost", i decided to add my thoughts.
for me this song applies most easily to a teenage infatuation.  maybe because
those are the only things i've had (nope, no true love yet!) so i can't speak
for the more experienced.  but the song always makes me think of being
utterly consumed by the memory of this person, just how i feel when i have a
crush, if you want to call it that.  this song has gotten me through many a
"sorry, i just don't want to ruin our friendship" times.  just my thoughts.
-rebecca

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i second the motion!!!  all can contribute.

meghan

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i know it's a long-shot, but does anybody happen to have any idea where i
could find copies of songs from the movie "go fish?" the end credits don't
list specific titles, but say it has an original score composed by brendan
dolan and jennifer sharpe. since it was a rather obscure, indy film i
strongly doubt that a soundtrack exists, but if anyone out there can help
me, please drop a line. thanks!

:~) abigail


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to take..."

                    ~dar williams

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     i know, i know.  this was just recently covered, but pleeeease could
     someone tell me how to temporarily sign-off.  my message to
     listserv@netscape.org was returned to me and i need to sign-off during
     the chinese new year holiday or i'll come back and have a trillion
     messages stored up.  eeeeek.

     thanks,
     holly

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hi folks,

just a note to advise y'all that i will be shutting
down the indigo girls fan survey (version iii)
tomorrow, so if any of you want to come fill it out
you'd better do it quick.  i'll be putting it back up
again a couple of weeks after "map" comes out (whenever
that turns out to be).

i still have a pile of submissions to tally up so the
results will be steadily updated in the meantime, but
until the new album comes out i won't be taking any new
entries.

if you want to come fill out the survey before it
closes down, you can find it at
http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/igsurvey, or contact me
for the email version.

we're also almost done with the latest revisions on the
indigo girls faq, so look for a new edition to hit the
metaphorical stands soon...

happy happy all,
sherlyn

ps - aol users - please accept my personal apologies for
any offence that may have been caused by recent postings
from some of the less tolerant members of the list.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
well i walk in the air, between the rain,
through myself and back again.
where?  i don't know..."               - counting crows

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in a message dated 97-02-02 14:20:25 est,okimo4 wrote:

<< does this mean i cannot subscribe to the indigo girls mailing list? >>

< then a bunch of  listers commented on the post
  (but i shant repeat all they said)>

apparently non-aol users don't understand dry humor ;)

yes this is all very sweet but i really must say...bite me...please :)

binky

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hi listees!
i'm looking for a setlist for natalie merchant 7/21/96 oakdale theatre,
wallingford, ct and anyone who taped the november radio broadcast rem interview.
thanks guys, sorry for the nigc!
lori


"when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on"
                                            rem

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ooops...sent that last one before i thought about it...
then couldn't unsend it.....sorry....long day :)(excuse # 503)
meant it with a smile, don't wanna fight.
(i can see this getting ugly and that would be bad and a big fat wob)
(waste o' bandwdth)

par donay moi !
bink

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from:         nickie post <booomsgirl@aol.com>
subject:      aol joke

"that message about aol was a joke--read the whole thing."

not a funny on though--i'm getting really tired of stupid people and stupid
comments.  why is one generalization any better than another?  what if i said
all ig fans were lesbians?  i'd obviously be uninformed and ignorant, right?
then why is okay to assume that all aol users are incompetant?  i can't
express to you how sick of hearing about aol idiots i am.....give it a
frappin' rest!

nickie

flame away if you will but i'm really sick of the stupid generalizations...

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>
> not a funny on though--i'm getting really tired of stupid people and
> stupid comments.  why is one generalization any better than another?
> what if i said all ig fans were lesbians?  i'd obviously be uninformed
> and ignorant, right?

ohmigod!!!  there are straight ones out there?

(it's a joke, really, i swear!!  don't flame me, i'll cry)

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i think the following flame i received speaks for itself too...

forwarded message:
> from booomsgirl@aol.com mon feb  3 00:53:53 1997
> date: mon, 3 feb 1997 00:54:08 -0500 (est)
> from: booomsgirl@aol.com
> message-id: <970203005407_-1643887095@emout12.mail.aol.com>
> to: kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
> subject: re: your subscription requests have been refused
>
> do you ever learn????  what crawled up your ass and died???  i'm fuckin sick
> of your stupid uneducated retarded little anti-aol posts.   get a fuckin clue
> bitch
>


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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 02:57:51 -0500
reply-to:     seaphish@aol.com
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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      re: your subscription requests have been refused (fwd)

in a message dated 97-02-03 01:21:27 est, kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
(kirsten chevalier) writes:

> i think the following flame i received speaks for itself too...
>
>  forwarded message:
>  > from booomsgirl@aol.com mon feb  3 00:53:53 1997
>  > date: mon, 3 feb 1997 00:54:08 -0500 (est)
>  > from: booomsgirl@aol.com
>  > message-id: <970203005407_-1643887095@emout12.mail.aol.com>
>  > to: kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
>  > subject: re: your subscription requests have been refused
>  >
(flame edited out to preserve g-rating of this post)

now come on, kirsten, even i, aol user advocate, laughed at your
'subscription request refusal' post, if only for the fact that those people
*were* clueless, even though _it's not because they use aol_.  but to post a
private email to the list is very bad netiquette, even if i don't agree with
what the flamer wrote or how she wrote it.

are you sure *you* didn't switch to aol?  <-- that was a joke, people!

remember, everyone, i am in no way, shape, or form condoning (sp?) the flame
kirsten received.

kirsten, did you even read the email i sent you after your first aol comment?
i thought maybe, since you never replied or even acknowledged it, it had
some effect on you.  maybe not <sniff>.  it's funny that you didn't publicly
post a well-thought-out, well-written, rational email from an aol user- only
the nasty one.

btw, i'm posting this to the entire list to try to show everyone that there
are some (probably most) aol users who would never send nasty flames to
someone for expressing an opinion; even though kirsten may have wanted you
all to believe that one aol user who sent an ugly and mean flame represents
all of us.

sorry for the wb.

-sheri :)  <--yes, i'm still smiling after all that.

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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 13:44:48 gmt
reply-to:     h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk
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from:         helene burningham <h.burningham@ulst.ac.uk>
organization: university of ulster
subject:      loop tape

hi y'all...just been catching up on the weekends list mail and this
loop tape thingummy is very tempting...there are so many artists,
especially the atlanta ones that we over the waters here never hear
anything of...it would be fab to experience these names that are
mentioned on the list so often.  i'd love to take part please...if
someone in particular is 'in charge' ;)  can you email me please.
thanks
love helene

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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 07:59:06 -0800
reply-to:     marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
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from:         marianne barlow <mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu>
subject:      nicg: dar in ashland!!
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okay friendly neighbors, i will be at the dar show at southern oregon
state college tonight, i will be wearing my ig list shirt, just cuz.... i
feel like it!  so anyone else who is going e-mail me quick before 12:30 or
so and let's hook up!

ta ta, y'all
your friendly lone coyote
marianne
:)

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      *      *          shining so very high up in the starry sky
     *   ' '  *         big moon, bright moon
     *    u   *         can you see people as tiny as i?
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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 11:10:41 -0500
reply-to:     amy c sanders <amys@homecom.com>
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hi guys, 'tis me, amy, the organiser of the loop tape. just some info for
those who want it.

so far about 60 people have showed an interest in the loop tape, and we're
all real excited about it. only one person has shown an interest in
australia, and two in the uk, and of course sara in japan. i'd love to get
more people overseas involved, so email me email me hurry hurry come on
guys, it will be fun! because i'm a silly goose and got the dates all
messed up, i'll take requests until this wednesday the 5th, that way people
on the digest will have time enough to respond.. if you don't know what i'm
talking about, this is what the loop tape is:

you make a tape of some of your favorite artists, the rule is you can't put
ig on it. you send it to the person in front of you in the loop, and the
person behind you in the loop will send theirs to you. in two weeks
everyone sends the tape they have on to the next person, and so on. fun fun
fun for the whole family.

what i need you to tell me in your email if you want to be in the loop:

your email address, and your location, be it state, province, country, etc.

if you're in europe, or australia, or if anyone else is in japan, we'd
loooove to have you in our loop, so email me :)

merry monday, (as merry as a bloody monday can be...)

amy

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|        on my reality check?
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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 10:57:29 +0000
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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        hi y'all,

        i'm not taking part in this discussion other than to politely ask everyone
involved to please take any further comments regarding the aol joke et al
to private email.

        it's more than ran it's course as a nigc post and let's return to
discussing things better suited to this list.

        take it easy,

                jen


maybe we're more than who we think we are.  or maybe not.     a&e

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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 12:11:39 -0500
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does anyone happen to have a copy of the chordpro shareware they
could email me, or, know of an active ftp site where i can download it?

i've tried searching the net, and all i get are dead ends.

thanks....

peace, love, & all things indigo,

jo
jmelnik@lucent.com

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is to help me take my life less seriously,
it's only life after all."   -- emily saliers

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>        it's been a slow night for me..i actually had the night off from
work...so
>i decided to watch the uptown video...again!!

i've watched it just about everyday for the last 2 months! (therapy---
my 11 year
relationship just ended)

>        anyway...no slur meant against the video, but i noticed some things
that
>have been bothering me for a little while...
>        at various times in the video, the editing team puts the wrong guitar
>shots in the video.  am i imagining thing or does amy begin on her black
>martin only to have a different martin in her hands during slow shots...in
>several shots..."all along the watchtower"among others.

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

does that answer your question? it's been buggin the you know what out
of
me. but not just because of the loss of continuity. i hate it when a
concert
video cuts out footage. i'm buying a concert video cause i want to see
the
concert--- not highlights. just film the concert and put it out. don't
edit it.

sorry, but that's a button of mine.

>        not that it matters...it's still a great video, but i just wanted to
check
>my sanity!!

one other problem i noticed is, amy starts talking about singing "walk
away",
but when the song finally starts they sing "get together".  ugh.

just thought i'd share......

peace, love, & all things indigo,

jo
jmelnik@lucent.com

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is to help me take my life less seriously,
it's only life after all."   -- emily saliers

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from:         amy krisko <kriskoam@saber.udayton.edu>
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anyone know when the album is scheduled to come out?  i try to check
the sony/epic website, but it is next to useless most of the time...any
info would be appreciated, sorry if i'm repeating a question already
asked (i am unable to subscribe to the list right now, so i havent
been able to read posts-- :-( !).  thanks for any info!

amyk

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went in yesterday to the gallaria
and asked a local music store for the latest
their answer was _yes_ it is pushed back
and _no_ they dont have a definite new date
thought ya'll would want to know
anj

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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      nigc bday!

february 1
happy 28th, tracy!!
from inside this existance, sweetheart
time is not on my side...

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg, who's visiting pj until way too fnarking late for a school night

aw, quit your damn bitchin', karey, i have a job interview in 6 hours!
(carolyn)
hi greta!!!!  congrats on your upcoming move to decatur. (pj, carolyn,and
karey)

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from:         vonnie mull <lovindigos@aol.com>
subject:      another newbie from aol...<eeeekkkk>

hi all!  i just wanted to pop in and say that i have enjoyed reading the
posts these past few days.  i live in nw ohio, and it seems that the goddess
of good music would bless this area with a station that would play more ig,
but, nooo...so, here i am, scarfing up your comments, ideas and thoughts. i
have a few friends that share my passion for a&e but, i really like hearing
other people interpet lyrics...gives me new ways to listen to the songs.
as for the flaming and the making fun of aol users...well, i thought it was a
hoot.  and, i just hope that i don't make an ass out of myself.  <g>
favorite songs...oh, let's start with crazy game.  i never should have
started to play, but, now you couldn't tear me away.
i come to you with strange fire, i bring an offering of love.
i feel it like a sickness how this love is killing me, but, i'd walk into the
fingers of your fire willingly.  and, dance the edge of sanity, i've never
been this close, in love with your ghost.
well, sentiment given and sentiment lost, you shook it off with a smirk and a
toss, and you were only joking.
<<<dang, maybe i should just cover songs that i don't like...cuz, i feel a
babble bug starting to take over my fingers.>>>
regardles...i love their music...i enjoy the posts....i am so glad that i
didn't send a subscription request to the mailing list....
one thing that would be helpful to me and maybe other newbies...could someone
please give explainations of some the abbreviations?  i scratch my head, and
can't for the life of me figure them out.  tanks.  :-)
so, i am finished now.   until i have something thought-provoking, that is.
don't hold yer breath.
von <---if i stumble, i will stumble, if i fall, i will fall...trying to hold
it like rain in the                      river, everything is getting
bigger...better this won't last forever...touch me fall

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date:         mon, 3 feb 1997 21:26:04 +0000
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      good news for ani di franco fans in the uk
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(this is being sent to both the dar williams list and the indigo girls
list.)

are there any other ani di franco fans from this side of the atlantic out
there?   if so, they'll be pleased to know (if they don't already) that
three of her albums (ani di franco - the first one, not a pretty girl and
dilate) along with the more joy, less shame ep are now out on the cooking
vinyl label, and can be found in any good record shop.   adf, napg and
mjls also come with special 7-track cds.   the one accompanying adf is
simply a "sampler" compilation consisting of 7 tracks off her studio
albums, but people i know here in aberystwyth tell me that the ones
accompanying napg and mjls also contain live material.

cooking vinyl also plan to release all of the rest of her albums (not so
soft, like i said, imperfectly, puddle dive and out of range) along with a
live album during 1997.   if you are a member of the cooking vinyl club
then you can get all these at a special knock-down price (ie. under a
tenner) by mail order, along with other albums by artists including the
oyster band, billy bragg, michelle shocked and june tabor.   more info at
their web site:

http://ourpages.compuserve.com/homepages/cookingvinyl

mat

ps.  no i don't work for cooking vinyl :)

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got this off usenet - doesn't look like the igs are gonna be there...


new orleans jazz & heritage festival
        april 25 -----  may 4, 1997
1. fair grounds race track schedule
2. evening concerts
3. workshops

fair grounds race track schedule

  fri, 4/25  dr. john, james taylor, al hirt, pharoah sanders, c.j. chenier
  & the red hot la band, nicholas payton, corey harris, zachary richard,
  deacon john, henry butler, wayne toups & zydecajun, rosie ledet, little
  queenie & friends, slim & the supreme angels, oliver morgan, bruce
  daigrepont cajun band, chubby carrier & the bayou swamp band.  tabby
  thomas, al johnson, woodenhead, willie lockett & the blues krewe, golden
  eagles mardi gras indians, bamboula 2000, caliente, tiny town, sunpie
  barnes & the la sunspots, fred kemp, al belletto big band, geno delafose
  & french rockin' boogie, doreen's jazz new orleans, lady charlotte, larry
  seiberth w/ betty shirley.  pigeon town steppers, chosen few brass band,
  jr. westbank steppers, new zion trio + one, community missionary baptist
  church choir, banks family, brian "breeze" cayolle, rockie charles,
  merritt doggins & the bloodhounds, frank federico & the medicare madcaps,
  javier tobar & elegant gypsy, greg baber, last chance western swing band,
  reggae revealers.  xavier university jazz band, gray hawk, papa don
  vappie's new orleans jazz band, bluebirds, zion travelers, clickin'
  chickens, ninth ward hunters, the chops brass band, andre borbe, la tech
  jazz ensemble, the original camellia jazz band, kat & the kittens,
  jefferson parish talented in theater students, just stepping, big nine
  sapcs, behrman elementary school performers.

  sat, 4/26  ellis marsalis, santana, tony rich project, kirk franklin &
  the family, milton nascimento, pete fountain, allen toussaint, cowboy
  mouth, keb' mo, earl king, terrance simien, gato barbieri, cubanismo,
  nocentelli w/ zigaboo modeliste, jean knight, young tuxedo brass band,
  the williams sisters of new york city, jimmy johnson, new orleans ragtime
  orchestra, treme brass band, wallace davenport.  kidd jordan & iaq,
  reggie hall band, keith frank, shepherd band, percussion inc., michael
  white quartet w/ thais clark, sammy berfect & dimensions of faith,
  acoustic swiftness, irvin mayfield quintet, little freddie king, jude
  taylor & his burning flames, larry garner, sadie thompson, white cloud
  hunters mardi gras indians, pet de kat krewe, tony bazley quintet,
  pinettes brass band, money wasters, jolly bunch, popular ladies, black
  men of labor, nkrumah better boys sapcs, st. john divine gospel choir.
  st. raymond gospel choir, the crownseekers, st. francis desales choir,
  invisible cowboys, jumpin' johnny sansone, azikwa children's percussion
  ensemble, michael ward, coushatta dancers, clancy "blues boy" lewis w/
  sheba kimbrough, eddie lejeune & the morse playboys, subr jazz ensemble,
  the taggart boys w/ joe clay, sonny bourg's bayou band.  rampart &
  perdido jazz band, irene & the mikes, spebqsa, don wiley w/ amanda dark,
  coolie stumps gospel singers, dillard university jazz ensemble, lady
  prince of wales, lightfoot, golden trumps sapcs, jonno frishberg's cajun
  experience, the rollers, mahogany brass band.

  sun, 4/27  irma thomas, earth, wind & fire, funky meters, frankie ford,
  rachelle ferrell, dorothy norwood, harlem jazz & blues, olatunji & his
  drums of passion, houston person w/ etta jones, beau jocque & the zydeco
  hi-rollers, johnny adams, walter "wolfman" washington, sonny landreth &
  the goners, continental drifters, raymond myles & the rams, nathan &
  zydeco cha chas, chris smither, alvin batiste & the jazztronauts, treme
  brass band.  los babies del merengue, george french's new orleans
  storyville band, gregg stafford's jazz hounds, escola de casa samba, six
  nations women singers, twangorama, bobby marchan & higher ground, bryan
  lee & the jumpstreet five, basin brothers, balfa toujours, willie west,
  keith claiborne, placide adams, new orleans spiritualettes, westbank
  steppers, scene boosters, valley of the silent men sapcs, algiers brass
  band, antioch gospel singers, friendly five, the wild magnolias mardi
  gras indians, astral project, patrice fisher & arpa.  paco del puerto of
  spain, creole zydeco farmers, khadir, gray montgomery, david & roselyn,
  culu dancers, barbara shorts, tornado brass band, alida & moise viator,
  carrollton hunters mardi gras indians, the dynamic smooth family of
  slidell, maggie lewis & the thunderbolts, timothea, greg dawson &
  crosswinds, moderno teatro de munecos of costa rica, victor goines,
  jetsetters, new orleans men & women buckjumpers, prince of wales sapcs,
  colleen salley, loyola university jazz band, jeremy davenport, calendar
  girls club, don sanders the sourdough cowboy, high steppers brass band.

  thu, 5/1  beausoleil, blues traveler, mary chapin carpenter, boozoo
  chavis & the magic sounds, james moody, hiway qc's, anders osborne,
  delfeayo marsalis, clarence "frogman" henry, banu gibson, tab benoit,
  larry johnson, luther kent & trick bag, hazel & the delta ramblers, dash
  rip rock, jambalaya cajun band, eddie bo, louisiana repertory jazz
  ensemble, andrew hall's society jazz band, steve masakowski & friends.
  ricardo lewis quintet w/ guest sandra booker, soul rebels brass band, the
  heralds of love, the coolie family, albita, galactic, cool riddums &
  sista teedy, lionel ferbos & the palm court jazz band, hadley castille &
  la cajun band, ancestro, the first revolution, libby rae watson,
  guardians of the flame, mamou, julio & caesar, louis red morgan,
  destinee, storyville stompers brass band.  tim laughlin, hammond state
  strawberry jammers, executive steel band, betsy mcgovern & the poor
  clares, j. monque'd, clyde kerr, jr., south lafourche high school jazz
  band, armagh rhymers, irie dawtas, chris clifton's new orleans allstars,
  paula & the pontiacs, peter bennett, bon temp roulez brass band, philip
  manuel, angela the yarnspinner, new orleans all city jazz outreach.

  fri, 5/2  ernie k-doe, al jarreau, bruce hornsby, delbert mcclinton,
  marcia ball, cyril neville & the uptown allstars, doc cheatham, rockin'
  dopsie, jr. & the zydeco twisters, orlando draper & the associates, tuba
  showcase featuring howard johnson & gravity, iguanas, art farmer, pet de
  kat krewe, steve riley & the mamou playboys, marlon jordan quintet, coco
  robicheaux & the perspirators, d.l. menard & the louisiana aces, marc &
  ann savoy, chris ardoin & double clutchin', robert parker, roland stone.
  doc paulin brass band, gentlemen june gardner & the fellows, michael ray
  & the cosmic krewe, andy j. forest & the blue orleanians, ben hunter the
  soul avenger, file, al carson, last straws, the humble travelers,
  one-a-chord, sherman robertson, milton batiste's magnificent 7ths, bobby
  cure & summertime blues, thousand $ car, carlos sanchez "amenecer
  flamenco" neslort.  patrick henry & the liberation band, mas mamones,
  evening star string band, ironin' board sam, waso belgian gypsy band,
  t-roy & the vibes, jason marsalis, armando rodriguez, local international
  allstars, john rankin, the haphazards, ed petersen, jesuit high school
  jazz band, peace puppets, pfister sisters, black eagles mardi gras
  indians, fischer elementary school troupe, the j.j. muggler band, algiers
  steppers, single men, revolution sapcs, delgado community college jazz
  ensemble, carl leblanc.

  sat, 5/3  buckwheat zydeco, herbie hancock, rita marley, better than
  ezra, thompson community choir of chicago, clarence "gatemouth" brown,
  marva wright, the dixie cups, james rivers movement, king floyd, george
  porter & the runnin' pardners, syl johnson, dirty dozen, tribute to
  sidney bechet featuring claude luter and michael white, new leviathan
  oriental foxtrot orchestra, alex chilton, allen fontenot & the country
  cajuns, cookie & the cupcakes.  charles neville band, germaine bazzle,
  bob french's original tuxedo jazz band, newbirth brass band, paulin
  brothers brass band, onward brass band, wendell brunious, willie metcalf
  & the academy of black arts youth jazz ensemble w/ the world peace
  movement, st. luke ame gospel choir, zulu ensemble, johnson extension,
  little rascals brass band, butch mudbone, secondline jammers, calliope
  high steppers, royal fingerbowl, walter payton w/ sharon martin, john
  boutte, belton richard, kumbuka drum & dance collective.  nocca jazz
  ensemble, luke thompson & the green valley cut ups, native nations inter
  tribal, peabody, sheryl cormier & cajun sounds, phila fila, los
  sagitarios, raful neal, golden star hunters mardi gras indians, leroy
  jones, jacques gauthe & his creole rice jazz band, caledonian society
  scottish dancers and pipes, paky saavedra's bandido, the mighty chariots,
  the heritage school of music band, danny collet, the power rangers.  lady
  sequences, lady of essence sapcs, mcteggart irish dancers, clarence
  johnson & chris severin, o.g. steppers, allen fontenot & the country
  cajuns, mid city music & dance workshop, kita productions, young
  steppers.

  sun, 5/4  preservation hall jazz band, the neville brothers, mccoy tyner
  w/ michael brecker, dorothy love coates, the radiators, jazz jamaica,
  rebirth brass band, eric gable, charmaine neville & friends, terence
  blanchard, dr. arvol looking horse, tribute to sidney bechet featuring
  bob wilber and fabrice zammarchi, olympia brass band, snooks eaglin,
  donald harrison, kermit ruffins big band.  tommy ridgley & the
  untouchables, wanda rouzan, irie vibrations, ritmo caribeno, kent jordan,
  the zion harmonizers, the hackberry ramblers, gospel soul children,
  willis prudhomme & zydeco express, pin stripe brass band, newbirth brass
  band, mem shannon & the membership, horace trahan, c.c. adcock, white
  eagles mardi gras indians, els.  new orleans klezmer allstars, jo "cool"
  davis, alvin " red" tyler, the rocks of harmony, furious five,
  untouchables, olympia aid, lady zulu sapcs, lillian boutte, kristi
  guillory & reveille, sask northern drum, cookie gabriel, tony green &
  gypsy jazz, po' henry & tookie, los caliente del son, y'shua manzy, ernie
  vincent, uno jazz ensemble, waylon thibodeaux, liz barnez, creole wild
  west mardi gras indians, louis cottrell & his original creole jazz band,
  thomas "big hat" fields.  original black magic lady steppers, n'kafu
  traditional african dance co., suno jazz ensemble, young cheyenne hunters
  mardi gras indians, les bucherons, uptowners hobo clowns, devastation,
  original four sapcs, curtis pierre w/samba children, looney tunes brass
  band, john lee & the heralds of christ, golden arrows mardi gras indians.
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(part 2 of 2)
evening concerts
fri, 4/25  9 p.m. -- santana; funky meters. kiefer uno lakefront arena

sat, 4/26  9 p.m. -- earth, wind & fire; maceo parker & roots revisited.
kiefer uno lakefront arena.

sat, 4/26  midnight jam -- ellis marsalis, nicholas payton, wess anderson,
peter martin, ed petersen, johnny vidacovich, bill huntington, david
pulphus, jeremy davenport, adonis rose.  praline connection gospel & blues
hall, 907 s. peters street.

mon, 4/28 and tuesday, 4/29  8 p.m. -- jazz at the palm court: harlem jazz
& blues w/ al casey, fred smith, arthur hamilton, david "bubba" brooks,
edwin swanston, johnny williams, johnny blowers & laurel watson featuring
special guest doc cheatham. palm court jazz cafe, 1205 decatur st.

tue, 4/29  8 p.m. -- dew drop inn revisited: marva wright, walter "wolfman"
washington, deacon john king floyd, wanda rouzan, lillian boutte, the n.o.
jazz legends: germaine bazzle, alvin "red" tyler, sigismund walker, wendell
eugene, warren bell sr., peter badie, sam mooney, harry nance & arnold
depass. the wardell quezergue big band, la louisiane ballroom, ernest n.
morial convention center.

wed, 4/30  8 p.m. -- la noche latina: johnny ventura and his orchestra;
albita; acoustic swiftness. la louisiane ballroom, ernest n. morial
convention center.

thu, 5/1  8 p.m. -- al jarreau; herbie hancock; astral project, la
louisiane ballroom, ernest n. morial convention center.

fri, 5/2  9 p.m. -- artists to be announced. kiefer uno lakefront arena

sat, 5/3  9 p.m. -- artists to be announced. kiefer uno lakefront arena.

sat, 5/3  midnight jam -- art farmer, howard johnson, donald harrison, jr.,
herlin riley, mike pellera, david torkanowsky, victor goines, eric traub,
bob stuart, jim singleton. praline connection gospel & blues hall, 907 s.
peters st. dinner is available at the ernest n. morial convention center.

workshops

fri, 4/25
10 a.m. -- gospel is alive!: kirk franklin & the family, mahalia jackson
mass choir, stephen foster & the arch angels. franklin ave. baptist church
1 p.m. -- pharaoh sanders. lawless memorial chapel, dillard university

mon, 4/28
8 p.m. -- african drum & dance summit: babatunde olatunji & his drums of
passion, national dance co. of mali, harambe pamoja children's dance co.
orpheum theater

wed, 4/30
11 a.m. -- moderno teatro de munecos of costa rica. times-picayune theater,
children's museum. 2 p.m. -- tribute to sidney bechet centennial, featuring
dr. michael white. nunemaker hall, loyola university.

fri, 5/2
1 p.m., herbie hancock. multi-purpose auditorium, southern university.

workshops are open and free to the public on a first-come, first-served
basis.

check out the crescent city music show
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/8636

see ya at da fest .. and remember to pet de kat!

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subject:      e-mail addresses needed...  (nigc)

hi listers!
could anybody out there in cyberville send me e-mail addresses for daemon
records and any other atlanta recording studios?
i have freinds in the music biz in nashville that are looking to spend some
time in atlanta...
thanks fer yer help, all!

~~robin

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february 2
kbode@unlinfo.unl.edu (kristan bode)
happy 26th, kristan!!
well we both come up on different streets
and they were both the streets of shame
they were both dirty, both mean,
yes and even the dreams were the same...

february 4
bdruttma@uoknor.edu
happy 20th!!
there i am in younger days, stargazing,
painting picture-perfect maps of how my life and love would be
not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection
my compass, faith in love's perfection
i missed 10 million miles of road i should've seen...

february 6
breckmi@mail.auburn.edu (debbie breckenridge)
happy 27th, debbie!!
i'm goin home, goin home
north carolina is cryin in my soul
creater i'm reaching out to you
tell them on the other side
that they are alive within my soul...
                                (ulali)

have an indigo year!
love,
the bg

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>one thing that would be helpful to me and maybe other newbies...could someone
>please give explainations of some the abbreviations?  i scratch my head, and
>can't for the life of me figure them out.  tanks.  :-)

with all the aol-bashing that is going on here i feel it's time, as greg
would say, to play "nice-nice" so here goes:

first of all, welcome to the list. i hope you enjoy your stay and look
forward to hearing your opinions on the issues that are discussed here. in
regard to your question about the abbreviations -- did you not receive a
copy of the list-faq and welcome message when you subscribed? a section in
that very fine document touches on this very subject. please look it over
at this time and if you have any further questions about abbreviations or
anything else that is addressed there, please feel free to write to me
personally and i will do my best to answer your questions.

once again, welcome :)

deb

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subject:      ig hearing on npr

*smile* and its even the appropriate week!

npr's all things considered ocassionally does what they call "teenage
diares" where they give a tape recorder to a teenager to document
their life.  in the past they've done gay kids, kids in a very small
town, kid in brooklyn, you name it.

anyway, this time its a young woman, rena goldfarb, who was just
starting out at brown university and she was documenting her
experience adjusting to college life.  she was describing the
experience of being very lonely in her room on a friday night, wanting
to be out -- and the opening chords of _strange fire_ start blaring
out =) they did the whole first verse -- very cool and very
appropriate when you think about.  the whole piece is kinda neat
actually.  they ended it with a really bad version of "american pie"
*grin*

anyway, ig and npr together -- truly a great match.  for you atc fans,
the piece begins about 35 minutes into the first hour (monday night).

                                        -- chris

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ok, just wanted to let everyone know that if you have mailed me about
getting together, i haven't forgotten you.  there are a few of you out
there...hey you gov. sch. people...who haven't emailed me.  please let me
know if you are interested in getting together.  i know that ani is coming
to richmond on the 5th of march.  maybe we could get together before and
after the show.  or even some other time.  i don't know that we really want
to get together in my dorm room, so if anyone has space that we could take
up, and wouldn't mind, please let me know. also if anyone has any dates that
they would prefer, please let me know.  i would love to have a list party,
and please feel free to bring significant others or best friends or
whatever, but we need to get on the ball!!!! =)
so please, please,please email me with some info!!!!:):):)
take care all
peace
tucker


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because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
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  you're a *saint* nancy for posting this.. i'll be camping out at bayou
segnette state park across the big muddy from no for at least one of the
weekends.  i'd like to organize w/ other ig listers for the nojf and assoc.
parties.  please email me personally if you're interested in dirt-cheap
camping arrangements or want to meet and party at jazz fest.

tanx~
tony

new orleans jazz & heritage festival
        april 25 -----  may 4, 1997

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
i       or i'll see you around. i don't know if these highs     l
g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
o

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ok, i've lived in this blessed town for over 5 years now and i go to this
used/new cd store about once a month when i find the time to go downtown
(or when a new ig or u2 cd is released heh - don't even get me started on
the time i skipped a class to buy the new u2 "achtung baby" tape the day
it was released and the manager told me i had to come back the next day
cause even though they had it there in the store and he showed it to me --
diediedie -- they couldn't sell it to me for stupid legal reasons. man!
can you imagine going to the store and they're holding map in front of
your face and saying they couldn't sell it to you because they legally
weren't supposed to sell it til the next day? i almost cried hehehe. i was
seriously into u2 back then.)

anyway!

just because it's an obsessive force of habit, i check the ig section
every single time in the very faint hope something magical will show up (i
even check the "i" vinyl section -- both "folk" and "rock"). well tonight
i was there and i'm thinking "oh i have to check the ig section" for the
millionth time and there was actually something new there *gasp* well it
was used :) but it was the watershed single (w/ watershed, watershed live,
and all along the watchtower from latul). it was such an exciting
experience, i was shocked. ok not as good as finding the ep on vinyl for
$5.99 but still... ;)

so the moral of this story folks is to check the ig section each and every
time -- once every 5 years something unexpected will show up. :)

just cause i have nuttin better to do than tell you this story,
kristina

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sorry everyone ...

sundara - i lost your new e-mail address - could you please e-mail me
privately :)

chris

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i was telling my sister-in-law about the loop tape idea, and she said it
sounded like it could get expensive. i don't think it should be
domestically, but who is going to be the one to send a tape over-seas each
time? it doesn't seem fair to have one person shelling out extra in postage.
is there someone willing to do so? or what else can be done?
susan malmrose
sequim, wa

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'cause baby when we meet what we're afraid of
we find out what we're made of"
     ~~everything but the girl

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>date: mon, 03 feb 1997 21:54:22
>to: susan malmrose <malmrose@olympus.net>
>from: the chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
>subject: re: loop tape/money honey
>
>at 07:20 pm 2/3/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>i was telling my sister-in-law about the loop tape idea, and she said it
>>sounded like it could get expensive. i don't think it should be
>>domestically, but who is going to be the one to send a tape over-seas each
>>time? it doesn't seem fair to have one person shelling out extra in postage.
>>is there someone willing to do so? or what else can be done?
>>susan malmrose
>>sequim, wa
>>
>that's true b/c i just sent sara some boots today (from us to japan) and it
cost $4.85.  so if one person got stuck paying a lot more for foreign
postage that could get real expensive.
>
>btw sara, the post office said 10-15 days (first class) sorry!!  priority
mail would have been $16 for 3-5 day delivery :0
>
>

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the expense of sending tapes internationally is definitely a valid
concern.  yet, everyone who wants to participate should be included,
right?  based on that assumption, i'm more than willing to volunteer
to be one who sends tapes overseas.  better than 60 people have expressed
interest in this loop deal?  i think the opportunity to hear the non-ig
stuff that diehard ig fans listen to is well worth the money.

my concern, however, is the logistics of this whole thing.  i have a
friend in durban, so. africa and it takes just about two weeks before she
gets any of the tapes or letter i send.  so, if she, for example, were a
part of this loop, she would receive the tape on the same day she was
suppose to send it to the next person.  but perhaps the mail system in so.
africa is on the slower end of the spectrum?  at any rate, what if someone
moves?  one broken ring on the chain will make a corpse of our loop.  but
i guess my lack of answers to these puzzling questions is good reason for
me not to organize projects such as this one.

let me see, $4.85 from us to japan and approx. 60 tapes.  that would be
damn near 300 bucks (postage values held constant).

smackme

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subject:      yet another map release date rumor

i heard from a friend of mine that she saw an up to date sign in our friendly
neighborhood record store yesterday that map is due out march 4th.  is this
some sort of cruel joke on the part of the newbury comics staff, or could it
be true?  anyone?

<your closing here>,

elizabeth

ps: not all aol users stink . . . i know there are some dumb ones, but some
of us can be barrels of fun!  come on, give us a chance!   8-)

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date:         tue, 4 feb 1997 07:19:56 -0600
reply-to:     sue kwan <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
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okay purple people,

i'll say it once more:

a buddy at epic has confirmed that the official release date for "map" has
indeed been pushed back to april 29th.

got it?  :)

--sue

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
                                -- amy ray

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subject:      re: summer highland falls

thought i saw a while ago a post about summer highland falls on an ig boot.
anyone w/info (or the boot), please re-post or e-mail me privately.  thanx,
maria

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subject:      nigc: shawn colvin

just a quick note: heard that shawn colvin will be in studio and a guest dj
on "world cafe" weds. 2/5 (at least in philly area -- to kick off the
fundraising campaign).

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today, susan wrote:

i was telling my sister-in-law about the loop tape idea, and she said it
sounded like it could get expensive. i don't think it should be
domestically, but who is going to be the one to send a tape over-seas each
time? it doesn't seem fair to have one person shelling out extra in postage.
is there someone willing to do so? or what else can be done?
susan malmrose
sequim, wa


amy and i have been back and forth about this, as we already anticipated
that question.  we're trying to come up with some kind of "round robin"
loop, so that the same person  is not  always spending more $$$ to send
stuff overseas.  i just can't visualize how to do it without anyone in the
loop ever getting the same tape twice.  if you have any ideas, feel free to
share.

i forgot about the time delay thingy...ok, lets all get out our globes and
figure out who's closest to whom and make sure the people closest to each
other are all in the same loop.  then switch with a couple of other people
who are not necessarily "next door" so as to shake it up a bit.  the way to
beat the time delay thingy is to make many many loops with small numbers.
if there are 60 people, i say make 12 loops of 5 (hmmm...let's see...
12x5=60...yea, that's right) and give the tape 3 weeks turn around
time...that means that each loop will be complete in (oh gawd...more math!)
15 weeks (about 4 months).  is that too long for a loop to last?  to come
up with a reasonable time frame, we can always play with the numbers to
make it so (wow...that sounded like jean luc picard....).

you know, when i was in grammer school, and the teacher was teaching us
math, we all said at one time or another "i'm never gonna need this
stuff...why do i have to learn it?"  well, i hate to say it, but the
teachers were right.  they obviously anticipated that "...in 20 years, joni
cyr will be asked to figure out the ig tape loop distribution, so we better
keep on her with this math stuff,"
which, of course, led to my email to amy when she first told us that 60
people were interested in joining the loop...she spammed me for this
one...several times....  here's an excerpt:

>amy:
>
>i'm no math expert, but i have a word problem for you:
>
>amy sets up a tape loop for ig fans on the ig list.  she has 60 people on
>the >loop list.  every two weeks, everyone on the list turns the tape
>around and >mails it to the next person on the list.  how long will it
>take for each >members original tape to come back to him/her?

aaaaaahhhhhh!

(ok, who knows the answer?)

ok, i think that's enough math for today.  y'all have a nice day!  4 days
and counting to the big boston ig list bash!  whoo hoo!

joni  :o)

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subject:      re: map release in uk

can anyone tell me when map will be availiable in the u.k. if at all.

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subject:      elayna mail me (nigc)

sorry pop tarts. lookin for elayna bittner. pleeeeze write me k?

donka shane,

sbm

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< it doesn't seem fair to have one person shelling out extra in postage.
< is there someone willing to do so? or what else can be done?

i can be the over-seas guy.  it wouldn't be a big deal to me, but you still
have the same problem going from great britian, or europe, to austrillia.  you
also have the same problem getting the tape back to the us.

trant

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hey everyone!

i enjoy reading all the posts, but what has been intriguing me lately is
unique screen names.  i often wonder what the meaning is behind the name,
why it's significant, what it means.  i read on binky's web page the
significance of her screen name, and thought that it might be interesting
if those with unique names said why they picked it and what it means to
them.  i bet there are other interesting stories behind screen names like
binky's.  not like my name...it's for work so first initial, last
name...boring.  i'm talking names like guinione@aol.com, pooh40@mc.net,
pegasus@crl.com, etc.  of course, some are obvious (like anything with
"indigo" in it).  just thought others might be wondering like me.....

have a good one!

joni  :o)

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at 09:02 am 2/4/97 -0400, joan cyr wrote:
>>amy sets up a tape loop for ig fans on the ig list.  she has 60 people on
>>the >loop list.  every two weeks, everyone on the list turns the tape
>>around and >mails it to the next person on the list.  how long will it
>>take for each >members original tape to come back to him/her?
>
>(ok, who knows the answer?)
>
>answer:  it will take approximately 2 years and 4 months to complete the loop.

tony

p.s. are these tapes gonna hold up to being played 60 times and mailed all
over the world??

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ohbeekaybee!  here it is...the info you've all been waiting on the edge of
your seat for...(amy ray:  "yea, right.")

ohbeekaybee was first said by a character on bill cosby's 70's cartoon "fat
albert" by "mmmmmmmush mmmmmmouth" (that's how he used to say it....it's
"mush mouth").  he had a speech impediment, which caused him to say things
like "ohbeekaybee" instead of "ok," etc.

you can all go back to sleep now.

joni  :o)

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hi guys, 'tis i, the (i'm beginning to think crazy) organiser of the many
loops 'o tapes.

for those who are signed up and raring to go and asking me about the tapes
they are going to make. go ahead and make them. a couple people have
expressed concern about what they are going to put on their tape, and there
was even a suggestion that maybe we post what we're interested in and try
to co-ordinate, but at that i have to say .. *eep* .. i don't think i could
handle the volume of mail that would start coming in, or co-ordinate loops
for who's making what other people want to hear .... we'll just have to
wing that part. i'm sure we'll all be exposed to music we've never heard
before.

one thought of mine was sometimes, i like to hear several songs of the same
artist so i can better judge whether i like that artist/group. but i bet
there are some people who would rather have as many different groups
crammed onto the tape as possible, so i think it's better that we make no
rules about what the tape consists of. you're going to be getting lots of
different tapes. you'll have new music coming out the wazoo. *grin*

ok, so i propose these two rules:

1. no amy and emily
2. 90 minute tape at least. if you want to make one longer than that, feel
free. :)

ok .. this is what i propose we do about the overseas situation. first of
all, because we have a lot of people involved in this, we are going to have
many different loops. i'm going to have each loop have a loop leader,
because this is getting to be a bit much for me, and after it's launched,
all questions and concerns could go to the loop leader, instead of all of
those emails coming to me. then if the loop leader can't help the wayward
person, they can in turn contact me, and we'll all figure something out.

this is one thing that will help. another thing is, will many small loops,
the chances of the loop being broken by someone is reduced, because the
loop will be shorter, and won't last until we can pass the responsibility
to our grandchildren. i'm thinking the ideal length of the loop should be
about 4 months. this will be much better, it won't eat up gobs of time
money and resources. then, if after the 4 months are up people want to
still do it, then we can have every one in loop 1 send their tapes to
everyone in loop 2, and so on and they will have new tapes to listen to,
and those who want out can do so as well.

another concern, overseas.

i think we've come up with a solution for dealing with postage problems,
and not putting all that weight on a few people. let me try to explain.

we have loop 1 loop 2 and loop 3 on north america of around 5-6 people
each. then we have loop uk, loop japan and loop australia.
mr/ms. phillipines will be combined in one of the overseas loops.

everyone makes their tapes. everyone in loop 1 makes two copies of their
tape, and sends one copy to loop uk. everyone in loop 2 makes two copies
and sends one copy to loop australia. everyone in loop 3 makes two copies
and sends it to loop japan.(maren and sara will be overwhelmed, it'll be
like x-mas *grin*) in the meantime, the overseas loops make two copies of
their tapes, and send one copy to loop 1, 2, 3 respectively. those loops
just incorporate those tapes into their loop, either sending two tapes, or
holding on to them and sending them off in the rotation.. so that there are
more tapes than there are people, 8 tapes, only 5 people.. etc. either way
would work. this way, everyone only pays the nasty (and it's really not
_that_ bad) postage only once.

i think this is the easiest way to work this, but as we all know, my brain
fizzles a bit sometimes, and maybe one of you geniuses out there can think
of a better plan. i'm all ears.

i hope this puts to rest any fears of spending huge amounts of money, and
posting tapes in the mail well into retirement. also, you think a change of
address is a problem, think again. there will be one person that is sending
you tapes. you just inform that one person of your new address, and presto.
problem not a problem.

ok .. i invite posts on this subject, not in too extreme though, because
some people don't care about the loop tape, and don't want to hear about it
24/7. be sure to put "loop tape" in the subject so those people can delete
and move on.

i'm also taking voluteers for loop tape leaders. i'll just take the first
ones who email me :)

merry tuesday everyone,

amy
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hi everyone!

i'll play the name game!  my e-mail address is litlbits@ix.netcom.com.
i got the name litlbits or little bits from my mother.  my middle name
is elizabeth and my mother always called me amy little bits (sounds a
little like elizabeth:)  anyway it fits because i'm short:  only 5 feet!

who's next?
amy

ps - litlbits fits nicely on my license plate too!

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just wanted to send a really big thank you to chris t.
i received my blue food boot (my first ig boot) yesterday and it felt like the holidays
all over again - i was so excited :o)
now i will have something to tide me over until the end of april
finally arrives (and i thought march 4th was a long way away! arg!)
thanks again, chris, for taking the time - you more than made my
monday (which is hard to do:))

kim

'after the battles and we're still around
everything once up in the air has settled down
sweep the ashes, let the silence find us
a moment of peace is worth every war behind us'

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isn't it just as easy to run a number of smaller loops -- looplets if you
like ( preferably of the same size ) then these can come together in some
sort if small overseas activity so that each hop across water is smaller
than a single journey -- i'm thinking of working in figure 8 type of mode
or something ... can somebody build a neural net to work all of this out
... ???

i know what i wanna say i just can't express it ..

later

jules

        when you learn to love yourself
        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon

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hey folks :) here's the bid list to date. some really good deals are
available condisering the bid on the club r & r is 10.00. i've also
attached the original description list for those that may have missed it.

format item - bid biddercode

1)hammer and nail   -

2)galileo digipak   -

3)i don't wanna talk about it   - 15.00 sf

4)three hits - 15.00 sf

5)joking   - 15.00 sf

6)galileo jewel -

7)rites of passage - 6.00 ig

8)touch me fall - 15.00 sf

9)closer to fine -

10)club r & r - 10.00 st

11)strange fire - 100.00 ar

we are fortunate ones,
joe
hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu


------------------------original post-------------------------
hiya folks :)
i'm happy to announce i just picked up a couple e.p's. while this is
wonderful news to me, it's just the opposite to my bank account. so i'm
going to try something that i've been wanting to try for a while. i'm
gonna have an auction. i have rounded up a few things that i have extra
copies of to offer. i'm wanted to try to have a few things from different
price ranges so that everyone that felt like participating could do so. i
liked the last idea of assigning i.d's. so here's how it will work. i'll
post the list of items i have. each item will have a name...and then a
description of the condition/song list/other items of note. write me with
your bids..and you should just be able to list the items as such:
joking - .50
strangefire - 5.00
and so on. i'll reply with your bidder i.d.
then if you would like a current list of the high bids. drop me a line and
put auction update as the subject line. you'll get a reply listing the
current bids on all the items. feel free to write for updates as often as
you like! i was gonna do a web page with the current bids, but too many
people don't have access. postage will be extra. there are no mininum
bids...but be nice cuz this is for the web site and other ig stuff :).
if you have any questions about the items or anything else..feel free to
ask! condition ratings will be from 1 to 10 and there will be a separate
rating for cover and disc/vinyl if necessary. basically i'll only mention
condition if there is something i think you should know before you bid.
i guess that covers it. have fun =)
oh yeah..pictures of some items are availible on my web site in the
collectibles archive. http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

format:
item number) item name - description

1)hammer and nail   - promotional only cd single.

2)galileo digipak   - promotional only cd single in digipak
                        brand new and sealed!

3)i don't wanna talk about it   - promotional only cd single

4)three hits - promotional only e.p.
                            song list:  three hits
                                        galileo
                                        joking
                                        ghost
                                        jonas & ezekial

5)joking   - promotional only cd single

6)galileo jewel - promotional only cd single - jewel case
                        (cover sleeve has water damage - disc is fine)

7)rites of passage - promotional only - full album - no cover sleeve
                        black/white back with song times

8)touch me fall - promotional only cd single - digipak
                        (teensy dings on outside corners of digipak)

9)closer to fine - promotional only - white label - 7" vinyl
                        in epic sleeve

10)club r & r - club r & r and epic records present an acoustic
                evening with the allman brothers band & the
                indigo girls. promotional only - live
                (cover and disc show wear - plays fine)

        song list:      indigo girls       allman brothers
                        ------------       ---------------
                        welcome me         come on in my kitchen
                        galileo            seven turns
                        joking             midnight rider
                        ghost              southbound
                        three hits         in memory of elizabeth reed
                        closer to fine     goin' down the road
                        the water is wide  melissa

11)strange fire - indigo records ( 12" vinyl )
                  the two outside corners (by the opening) of the cover
                  show a small amount of wear but are o.k.. there is a
                  good sized crease along the bottom left corner. there
                  are also a couple divets in the top right.. with the
                  exception of the one large crease, there are a few
                  small creases here and there. the original sleeve is
                  missing. the vinyl is in fine shape. this is a very
                  good starter strangefire. the cover isn't all that
                  great but the vinyl is in very nice shape with only
                  a few small scratches that would not effect play.
                  recommended to start a collection!
                  cover 5 sleeve 0 vinyl 8.75
                  since this would make a perfect start to a collection,
                  whoever wins the strangefire will also receive a
                  used-in-concert guitar pick as a gift addition to
                  their collection.


mail bids to hamilton@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu

we are fortunate ones,
joe

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>
> well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
> the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
> music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon
so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
subscribers can post?
kirsten

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date:         tue, 4 feb 1997 13:18:24 est
reply-to:     shawn e daly <paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil>
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subject:      road to aus video question

    this past weekend i viewed my on the road to austin video and have to
commend sunny on a marvelous job done and to kristen for dubbing it for me.
as usual i have a question though. out of curiosity who is the
woman playing guitar next to amy during the pride segment?.i don't think
iv'e ever seen her before.
                             pj :)

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hello...

i agree with breaking up the loop into small groups since the money will
add up for sending them....i guess being in college contributes to
this...it is the only way i can afford it!!

--meghan

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this is for the post about the names of the members....my name is a
derivitive from the first three letters of the girl's last names,  or in
amy's case all three....of course what shortness she had in her last
name, she made up for in legs *dreamy sighs*
i also go by aereas which is their initials.

just my 3 dinars....(and if anyone gets that allusion, you rock!),
-sal

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've already told joan personally what my addy means
but i thought i'd enlighten ya'll
(haha)

boilrmkr= boilermaker
i graduated witha ba and ma from purdue university
and when my friends graduated we all agreed
to keep emails simple so we wouldnt forget
(sometimes it seems a bit boggling to remember all
the code letters/numbers after and a login ugh!)
so boilrmkr was born.. and there are quite a few of
us lurking in the us

hope everyone is having a great day!
anjeanette

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>>>so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so
that only subscribers can post?>>>

that's a little harsh.  what's the harm in some folks posting to the
group without reading all of our messages.  i mean, really, we should be
able to appreciate the girls and listen to other viewpoints at the same
time.  how tough is that?

not griping...just wondering about some stuff.

mike

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on tue, 4 feb 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
> > the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
> > music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon
> so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
> subscribers can post?
> kirsten

it seems like what is needed is just a different name to the list, like
indigo-girls-list@netspace.org which would let all  know that this isn't
ig's personal email account.

nick
bloomington, in

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what video is this?? is it ig related?? and may i have a copy?
-sal

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on tue, 4 feb 1997, the chickenman wrote:

> >answer:  it will take approximately 2 years and 4 months to complete the loop.

        yikes!! i could be anywhere in 2 and a half yrs!

> p.s. are these tapes gonna hold up to being played 60 times and mailed all
> over the world??

        of course they will. they're maxell. hey, that gives me an idea.
can we get maxell to sponsor this as some sort of promo thingy to show
how well their tapes hold up? i know it would never happen, but it's a
neat idea, huh?
        btw, in case you're wondering how i know that all the tapes will
be maxell? i think we all know by now that maxell is the preferred tape of
the ig list for it's superior sound quality and endurance. what else
would any of us use to put our beloved girls on?

                                                still waiting for my life-
                                                sized amy and emil dolls,
                                                tuesday's child

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on tue, 4 feb 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
> > the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
> > music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon

> so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
> subscribers can post?
> kirsten

kirsten, honey?

        are you having a bad month? i don't mean to be unkind, but you've
been awfully cranky lately. i just sent this girl a very nice little post
explaining that this is not a&e's personal e-mail address. told her who
we are and gave proper instructions on how to join.
        have a heart sweety, she loves ig just as much as we do.

                                                tuesday's child


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ok, i knew someone was making this, but during my absence between
semesters, i must have missed the go round of taping. can some kind soul
tell me how i can get this?
btw, i will be at the boston release party. if someone else going to it
has this tape and would like to coordinate w/ me?

                                                        thanks bunches!!

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hi there!

        just thought it would be a nice idea if the creator of each tape
enclosed a little note of introduction/explanation with their tape, to
personalize it a bit.
        amy, can you post a list of those people who are participating
(just names) so we can all make sure that those who are interested are on
the list? thanks!

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reply-to:     dresden5@aol.com
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from:         dresden5@aol.com
subject:      name game...

::sigh::

not that i email much, but for those of you who would like to know....my
screename "dresden5" comes from kurt vonnegut's slaughterhouse 5....when i
got the account four years ago i was really into vonnegut...anyhoo....there
are those who call me dres...but the number is small...but feel free:)

kate
aka....."roots and wings" and "rinse and wash" (<--last name ranson-walsh)
amungst other names....

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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      re: loop tape/money honey
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              97 3:05 pm

> > p.s. are these tapes gonna hold up to being played 60 times and mailed all
> > over the world??
>
>         of course they will. they're maxell. hey, that gives me an idea.
perhaps, but if everyone makes a copy of each master tape for him/herself and
then sends on the master, then the tapes are even more likely to hold up.
kirsten

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---------- forwarded message ----------
date: tue, 4 feb 1997 16:24:32 -0500 (est)
from: d menno <dmenno@ezdial.com>
subject: telephone charges


>>=========================================================
>>
>>
>>>subject: fcc imposed charges
>>>
>>>i am writing you this to inform you of a very important matter currently
>>>under review by the fcc. your local telephone company has filed a proposal
>>>with the fcc to impose per minute charges for your internet service. they
>>>contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone
>>>network.
>>>
>>>it is my belief that internet usage will diminish if users were required to
>>>pay additional per minute charges. the fcc has created an email box for
>>>your comments, responses must be received by february 13, 1997. send your
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>>>
>>>please forward this email to all your friends on the internet so all our
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>>>
>>>thanks for your time,
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>>>elan amram
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>>>
>>
>
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hi guys

i just sent an email to all those i've heard from wanting to be on the tape
loop (excluding nix64, and julia skuratowicz ) so if you didn't get it,
drop me a note.

amy
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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              97 1:55 pm

> it seems like what is needed is just a different name to the list, like
> indigo-girls-list@netspace.org which would let all  know that this isn't
> ig's personal email account.
>
> nick

that could work (although maybe not in every case -- never underestimate the
stup...never mind :-)). but i think it would be less confusing simply to
prevent non-subscribers from posting. people who do not subscribe to a list
have no business posting to it!
kirsten

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              97 3:30 pm

> > kirsten
>
> kirsten, honey?
>
>         are you having a bad month? i don't mean to be unkind, but you've
> been awfully cranky lately. i just sent this girl a very nice little post
> explaining that this is not a&e's personal e-mail address. told her who
> we are and gave proper instructions on how to join.
>         have a heart sweety, she loves ig just as much as we do.
>
well, i did the same thing, and i guess it's time for a clarification. i
received several private e-mails from people apparently under the impression
that my public response was intended as a personal attack against the poor
benighted soul who posted the fan mail message. if anyone else out there is
still laboring under the impression, it is *incorrect*.

my sole point was that
messages from people who obviously don't subscribe to the list, haven't read the
been becoming more and more frequent lately, and maybe it's time to do
something about them.


preventing non-subscribers from posting would harm nobody (it's pretty bad
netiquette to post to a list you don't subscribe to) and prevent a lot of
bandwidth from being wasted. now that everybody's clear about my motivations,
can we please discuss this idea without flamethrowers?
kirsten

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from:         deng@vnet.ibm.com
subject:      shattering guitar picks (nigc)

for the ig guitar players out there...

unlike amy, i have yet to break a string but did manage to shatter my guitar
pick trying to play joking up to speed :) it was a thin fender on bronze
light gauge strings - any suggestions for a pick that won't put up too much
resistance on those fast songs, but won't break on me either?  btw, is there
a thumb cap or something that could be used for strumming instead of having
to hold the pick itself? (i have a slight hand disability that makes it
difficult).

tx, denise

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(if you understand this, then you have spent too much
time with c... ;)

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date:         tue, 4 feb 1997 18:14:17 -0500
reply-to:     bellepal@aol.com
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from:         jennifer palumbo <bellepal@aol.com>
subject:      re: name game...

  belle - as in the main charachter of beauty and the beast, which happens to
be my nickname at the camp at which i work as a counselor during the summer.

pal- as in the 1st three letters of my last name, palumbo

jennifer

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my name is after the italien operatic composer verdi.
ben

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      yet another bad vibe for newbies

--- kirsten wrote:
so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
subscribers can post?
kirsten
--- end of quoted material ---
so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and let them
know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?

i'm volunteering!

susan

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reply-to:     shmettle@aol.com
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from:         cathy ettle <shmettle@aol.com>
subject:      screen names

ok,  i'm finally posting for the first time.  i think this name thing is
interesting too.  my screen name shmettle is a nick name i picked up from all
my pals.  it's a combination of shmuck and my last name.  i think i must have
done or said something stupid and my friends just decided to combine the two
for easier insults.  it's grown on me and i like it.  so, that's the story
behind my screen name.  joni,  i posted this for you since i know it was your
goal to get me to post.  i've been a lurker for far too long!!!      shmettle

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from:         jennie <jriley@sophia.smith.edu>
subject:      re: simple fan mail
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on tue, 4 feb 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
> > the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
> > music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon
> so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
> subscribers can post?

i think the occasional fan post is kinda sweet...

happy day,
jennie

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at 08:16 pm 2/4/97 -0500, cathy ettle wrote:
>ok,  i'm finally posting for the first time.  ...  joni,  i posted this for
you since >i know it was your goal to get me to post.  i've been a lurker
for far too long!!!    >shmettle

whoo hoo!  i'm two for two!

(in case you forgot, my first goal accomplished was to get miss suzie b.
marine to post when she promised not to for one whole day...this is number
two!  funny thing is, shemettle, i wasn't even trying!  but you picked a
good time to jump in!  welcome!)

i have to say i am enjoying learning about everyone's screen name.  some
have posted to the list, and some have sent to me personally.  when an
adequate amount of time passes, i will post a synopsis of the responses i
got.  if you sent me your screen name origin personally and do not want me
to share it with the list, please email me now and i won't post it to the list.

so, cath, tell me...was the name shmettle (shmuck+ettle) a consensus among
all your friends, or was it mishy?  :o)  you can tell me...that sounds like
something mishy would come up with....

have a good nite everyone!
joni :o)

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from:         maggie mae <maggie3953@aol.com>
subject:      the name game (littleigc)

i just thought i'd add a couple of copper coins...
my screen name refers to my first name
= maggie
and a number that i have used for my phone #,
my storage combination code, and my bank card...
anyone else use it ? ...it's so easy to remember...
3953

if this is too redundant...well...i'm talkative tonight.

and of the blue women...they inspire me daily...for
some unknown reason i just never get tired of listening
to the indigo girls.  i really love it when i find a tape that
i haven't heard for a year or so (hidden on the floor board
under the passenger side seat) and pop it in for a flush of
memories.

g'night all...
-mags
-"with the heart and the mind on a parallel course,
           never the two shall meet"...

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hey all loopers--i had an idea for organizing loops. perhaps it would be
easiest to make college/university loops and other loops. not to be
exclusive; that way it might be easier to change addresses for the summer
and stuff. just an idea :)

jenn. brown

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good evening everyone!!!!

i have a silly question/request:):):)

i have never seen ig in concert and i really want to!!!  they never come around when i can go!!!  (if anyone
knows of a concert scheduled near reddiing, ca, let me know, please!)

anyways, to tide me over, and to give me the pleasure of seeing "blood and fire" (as i have heard i never will
"live" anymore)live,

does anyone have any "boot" (gee, i am getting a little out of control with these quotes and parentheses)
of ig with amy singing blood and fire, or even not singing blood and fire, i would *really* apreciate a copy:)

tell me what to do and i will do anything(now, now:)

thank you thank you thank you!!!

love to you all!
selena
aeryk@shasta.com
http://wsite.com/selena

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subject:      re: nigc: shawn colvin

in a message dated 97-02-04 08:34:45 est, you write:

> just a quick note: heard that shawn colvin will be in studio and a guest dj
>  on "world cafe" weds. 2/5 (at least in philly area -- to kick off the
>  fundraising campaign).

if someone could tape this, i'm sure a lot of us would be eternally
grateful... =)  peace, love, and birds on fire, sarah

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hmm..i'm trying real hard to remember if i was as self indulgent and
nasty and rude  to others as a certain 16 yr poster on our list is being
when i was that young and immature..
what was it my ma always told me in the old days..:
make new friends....
you can always attract more bees with honey , not vinager...
say unto others as you would want them to say unto you..
if you don't have something nice to say..then don't say anything at
all...
in other words..
what difference does it makes if someones posts to this list thinking
they are really talking to amy and emily...( don't tell me we all don't
have the secret wish that it was true and they were really reading
everthing we have to say)
this isn't a secret club..we didn't take an oath.. there is no secret
handshake...we will not be complaciant( so what if i can't spell..i'm
old..or is that gonna be held against me now??)everyone has the freedom
to say what they want..its allright if you hate aol. people,they love
you....there are no rules..you can post to this list if you don't know
how to format a computer or make a web page or stand on your head and
shoot ping pong balls out your....no wait ..that only happened in
pricilla..i digress..
all you have to do to "belong to this list"..the only rule involved is
that you like the music..you don't even have to love it..strike that..you
don't have to like the music at all..you can offer intelligent polite
opinions why we shouldn't listen..and well listen to your opinion..cause
everyone is entitled to one...
if you don't like the way this list is made up then start your own..one
where only the people who are just like you can belong
one where only people just like you with your beliefs and your ideals and
your rigidness and your self serving attitudes can belong.
one where you get to make the rules and if you don't like someone you can
kick them out or make fun of them in order to make yourself seem better..
i think that was all done in the 40's..( are you to young to
understand??)
sorry to rant and rave and sound like an old fart but this has really
been pissing me off lately.
in other words..grow up
pooh ( who used to have an aol account
and didn't know what nigc meant
and posted stupid posts to the list
and wished a and e really read it
and had some very kind folks e-mail me privately when i messed up so i
wouldn't look like a fool to the entire list)
i'm done..i feel better

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from:         rose west <nitelite6@aol.com>
subject:      re: loop tape nigc

i am so excited about this idea.  i was falling behind on reading the ig
mailing list.  it can be overwhelming at times....so i tend to delete a lot
of the nigc without reading it.  i know i can get the "digest" version....but
that would be like taping a hockey game and watching it a week later...ha!
well i hadn't deleted the "loop tape" mail that had been coming in...but i
also hadn't read any of it until today.  and was i sad when i saw i had
missed the deadline...but yipee it has been extended.  now i am anxiously
awaiting all "loop tape" information.  i think it is a good idea to break
down the loop into little loops...as long as we all eventually get looped
into the other loops...huh?!?  hope you know what i mean.  this is so
exciting, because of my deep love for music.  i am already formulating my
loop set in my mind as i write this.
it sure takes a lot of organizing....my hat is off to amys@home.com for
organizing it!!

rose

p.s.  sorry for the long post...but my g/f is gone for the evening...and i
miss her :-)
p.s.s.   glad the aol-user "joke" thread is dying down at least temporarily.
how is
              something funny if no one is laughing?  ;-)
p.s.s.  i have sent a few blank tapes out....hadn't heard back from anybody
yet...
            will i be getting something in the mail soon...or is everyone out
there a big
             procrastinator like me?

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okay...i was going to reply privately to this. i really was. but when i got to
this:

> old..or is that gonna be held against me now??)everyone has the freedom
> to say what they want..its allright if you hate aol. people,they love
> you....there are no rules..you can post to this list if you don't know
> how to format a computer or make a web page or stand on your head and
> shoot ping pong balls out your....no wait ..that only happened in

feel free to skip the rest of this post if you feel that nothing coming from
some 16-year-old loudmouth could be worth reading (and if you do, and would
dare to speak your mind in similar terms, as did pooh and one other person who
sent me private e-mail, would you dare to say the thing about me or anyone else
with "agnostic" or "indonesian-american" or "female" substituted for "16-year-
old"? if not, what's the difference between one and the other?).

yes, there are rules. sorry, i just broke one of them by formatting the previous
sentence in all caps, but just because we are currently communicating via our
computers rather than voices does not mean there are no ground rules governing
our communication. no, the net.police will not come to your door and drag you
off to "usenet, no exit" if you break a rule like "don't type in all caps" or
"don't post to a mailing list which you are not familiar with", but that is all
the more reason not to. do not think that you are entering some sort of
anarchic netherworld the moment you invoke your e-mail program; computer
networks have held up so well precisely because they have certain unwritten,
mutually-agreed-upon rules that most of their users follow most of the time. if
all the rules went away, the internet as we know it would fall apart
immediately.

sure, you don't need a phd in computer science to post to this list, or any
other, just like you don't need a phd in european history to visit rome or
paris. but you would be foolish to visit either europe or cyberspace with no
knowledge of the cultural norms that govern them, and you hardly have the right
to complain about being treated curtly by denizens of either place if you make
no effort to mesh with the local traditions.

needless to say, none of this, or of any other post i ever made on this
subject, is intended as a personal attack against anyone. i can't and won't
criticize anyone for being ignorant about the rules when they don't know that
the rules exist, and aol makes little to no effort to educate its users about
where they're really going when they use their service to tap in to the
internet. if my posts still appear that way to you, you may be right, but at
least *consider* the possibility that your knowledge of my age (whether gleaned
from my web page, guessed from my e-mail address, or gotten from pooh's recent
revelation) may be influencing your judgement. it seems like age is the last
non-chosen characteristic around which it's still socially acceptable to make
demeaning generalizations about people.

i promise this is my last public meta-post relating to this latest flame war;
if you have an issue with anything i say here, please respond to it *privately*;
i will give you a thoughtful hearing as long as you refrain from using language
which would cause your account to be terminated were i to forward your mail to
your postmaster. for your own good, y'know? :-)
kirsten

"i understand your causes, sympathize your motivations, but all the details of
this war are just self-infatuation."--a.r./ejs
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at 05:11 pm 2/4/97 est, kirsten wrote:

it's time for a clarification. i received several private e-mails from
people apparently under the impression that my public response was intended
as a personal attack against the poor benighted soul who posted the fan mail
message. if anyone else out there is still laboring under the impression, it
is *incorrect*.
>my sole point was that messages from people who obviously don't subscribe
to the list, haven't read the <faq> been becoming more and more frequent
lately, and maybe it's time to do something about them.
>
>preventing non-subscribers from posting would harm nobody...

dear kirsten-

"the poor benighted soul" sent the chickenman a message earlier today:

eeek!  i ended up taking myself off the list the first day.  i feel really
bad about that because i did get several nice e-mails from people like you are
just trying to help me figure out what i was doing...but there's no way i
could handle the amount of mail.  i'm still in school  (senior in high
school, i'll be at smith college next year) so the time i can spend on-line
is very limited.  <sigh>  hopefully i'll be able to rejoin at some later
point...and at least now i'll knw what i'm doing  :)

i love you kirsten....., but we all need to learn to be tolerant of one
another...don't you think so? :)

tony

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from:         sasha friedman <indigofrk@aol.com>
subject:      nigc-american basketball league

hi everyone,

sorry to waste bandwidth, but iam writing a paper on the american basketball
league for school and i am so busy and my school lives in the dark age, so we
have no internet access (i do, but only through aol need i say more ?? )
anyways, (i do have a point here : )   if any of you know anything about this
league (founders, best players etc.) could you let me know... or if you just
want to put in a good word for your favorite team... oh yeah or any info on
the upcoming wnba would be greatly appreciated... thanks...

peace
sasha

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from:         "sheri e. allen" <seaphish@aol.com>
subject:      so and 1200c cd cases

hi all,

i was just wonderin... my copy of so has a plastic jewel case and my 1200c is
cardboard; but my bf's copies are the opposite: so is cardboard and 1200c is
plastic.  i'm curious why this is- is it a demographical issue (he's in pa &
i'm in ny), or did they just run out of plastic or something ;)  i thought
the whole point of making 1200c with a cardboard case was to be
environmentally conscious, so why wasn't it consistently done?

just curious, and trying to get some igc (sort of) going- maybe this was
discussed before but i was snoozing....

-sheri :)  <-- who, on her first day back to grad school, overslept and
missed her first ever practicum session :(

"...where is bart, anyway?  his dinner is getting all cold and eaten." -
homer simpson

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subject:      re: nastiness on the list nigc but i've had enough

i am wondering why such a ruckus is being raised over a post made by an ig
fan.
just because she happened to think she was writing directly to the indigo
girls??
i thought it was sweet and innocent in nature.  i suppose she should have
read the faq.  but how much nigc mailings or even some igc  is posted that
you wish you hadn't wasted your time reading?  in the grand scheme of things
is what she did so horrible?  i sometimes think some people get too serious
about what happens on this list. i purposely made a point of not responding
to the aol "joke" that was shared on this list.  it wasn't worth wasting
bandwith over, although i didn't think it was that funny.  its kind of like
asking a tall person..."hows the weather up there?", over time the slams
about aol users becomes not so funny.   i wonder if its time for me to take a
break from this list...although if i did that i would miss out on the tape
loop
information.

rose......::::sigh:::::maybe everyone is on edge because the map release date
is
                             being delayed?  just a thought.......

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from:         pj harris <pjhoopie@aol.com>
subject:      re: yet another bad vibe for newbies

susan wrote:

so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and let them
know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?

i'm volunteering!

susan

----------end of quoted material

susan b. marine

you are a woman after my heart.  i now understand why you have a fan club
:*)

i like the idea of reaching out to people who accidently stumble on to the
list.  i have gained many wonderful new friends all over thanks to the list.
i volunteer as well.  great idea, susan.  can we ever have too many people
on the list? imho  no way!!!!

peace and carrots
pj


"...and when i am negative, i will be negative only for as long as i have to
be, until i can understand it, and then i will be positive...when i hate, i
will turn my hatred into energy, when i am angry i will turn my anger into
energy...and i will not be complacent."  -a. ray

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all the tabs i've been posting to this list can be found at:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/indigo/tab/

mat

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hammer and a nail (emily saliers)
---------------------------------
[actually in b; capo 4.]
[each chord is about half a measure, except in the instrumental parts.
"ds" is really dsus4; "cs9" is csus9.]
[see the tablature at the end of the file for chord fingerings in the verse.]

g  ds em7|em7  c(9) g|g  ds cs9|cs9   | g  ds em7|em7  c(9) g|g  ds cs9|cs9  |
[intro; see tab at bottom]

g          dsus        em7   c(9)   g            dsus        em7         c(9)
  clearing webs from a hovel         a blistered hand on the handle of a shovel
g           dsus        em7     em7    csus9  csus9  csus9  csus9
  i've been digging too deep, i always do
g          dsus        em7     c(9)   g         dsus       em7   c(9)
  i see my face on the surface;        i look a lot like narcissus
g          dsus      em7       em7             csus9     csus9     csus9  csus9
  a dark abyss of an emptiness standing on the edge of a drowning blue

em9        em9      c(9)          c(9)  em9    em9     c(9)    c(9)/b
  i look behind my ears for the green,     and even my sweat smells clean
am      am/b      c    a        d   d(9)/c   g/b      g/d
  glare off the white hurts my eyes             gotta get out of

g         d            c(9)  d             g   d   c(9)     d
bed, get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my hands; not just my
g                 d          c(9) c(9)         am     am         em7       em7
head, i'll think myself into jail; now i know a refuge never grows  from a chin
      c        c               a      a          c(9)       c(9)     c(9)  c(9)
in a hand in a thoughtful pose; gotta tend the earth if you want a rose

g  ds em7|em7  c(9) g|g  ds cs9|cs9  |
[instrumental, same as intro]

i had a lot of good intentions; sit around for fifty years and then
   collect a pension
started seeing the road to hell and just where it starts
but my life is more than a vision; the sweetest part is acting after
   making a decision
i started seeing the whole as a sum of its parts

i look behind my ears for the green, and even my sweat smells clean
glare off the white hurts my eyes
gotta get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my hands
not just my head, i'll think myself into jail; now i know a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose
gotta tend the earth if you want a rose

my life is part of the global life; i'd found myself becoming more immobile
when i'd think a little girl in the world can't do anything
a distant nation my community, a street person my responsibility
if i have a care in the world i have a gift to bring

i look behind my ears for the green, and even my sweat smells clean
glare off the white hurts my eyes
gotta get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my hands
not just my head, i'll think myself into jail; now i know a refuge never grows
from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose
gotta tend the earth if you want a rose

g  g/f# | g/f    | c      | cm      | g      | d      | g   c   | g.
[ending; see below]


intro:
  g         ds  em7         c(9) g            ds  csus9
e 3---3---x-3---3-|----3---x-3---3-|----3---x-3---3-|----3----------- ||
b 3---3---x-3---3-|----3---x-3---3-|----3---x-3---3-|----3-----------.||
g 0---0---x-2---0-|----0---x-0---0-|----0---x-2---5-|----5----------- ||
d 0---0---x-0---2-|----2---x-2---0-|----0---x-0---5-|----5-----------.||
a 2---2---x-0---2-|----2---x-3---2-|----2---x-0---3-|----3----------- ||
e 3---3---------0-|----0---------3-|----3-----------|---------------- ||
  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .
[note that for most of this, your ring and pinky fingers never move.]
[if you don't like barre chords, play csus9 as x30033.]


ending:
           g       g/f#     g/f              c                cm
e --------|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
b --------|3-----3-----3---|3---3---3=5-3---|1-----0-1---1---|1-------1=3-1---|
g ----4---|----4-----4-----|--4-------------|----2-----------|------0---------|
d 5-------|--5-----4-----4-|3-----3---------|2---------------|1---1-----------|
a --------|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
e --------|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
  ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

  g                d                g       c        g
e ----------------|----------------|----------3-----|3---------------|
b 0-------------0-|----3-----------|------------1---|3---------------|
g ----------0-----|--2-----4=2-0=2-|0---------------|0---------------|
d 0---0-0=2---2---|0-----0---------|----0-0=2-------|0---------------|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|2---------------|
a ----------------|----------------|----------------|3---------------|
  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .  ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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hand me downs (amy ray)
-----------------------
[amy and emily play pretty different parts in this song.  amy plays in
the key of g with a capo on the 2nd fret; emily plays in a with no capo.
because of this discrepancy, i'm going to list the entire song twice.
first amy's part, then emily's.]
[most of the emily part wasn't figured out by me; credit for that goes to
scot ninneman (scotjohn@leland.stanford.edu).]


amy:

asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)    asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)    asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)
[intro]

asus9   asus9/c  g         d(9)
  i've taken      so many down
asus9  asus9/c                  g         d(9)
              i've helped them all to dismount
asus9   asus9/c  g         d(9)
  i've followed   so many down
asus9  asus9/c              g           d(9)
              i take their hand-me-downs

          am             c          g  -  d          c  - d
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     g   -   d            c  -  d
and loss of love brings wholeness
          am             c          g  -  d          c  - d
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     g   -   d            c   -   bm7     (asus9...)
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all
    asus9  asus9/c  g  d    asus9  asus9/c  g  d
(...all) [instrumental]

everything that i believe crawls from underneath the street
everything i truly love comes from somewhere far above
everything that i believe is wrong with you, is wrong with me
everything i truly love, i love in you and i love in me  [extra half measure]

so give me hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     g   -   d            c   -   bm7    am(9)  am(9)
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all

g       g                  d(9)  d(9)
  swear you can't swim the river
g           g                d(9)  d(9)
  i saw you running to jump in
g             g             d(9)   d(9)
  i swore i'd never be your sinner
g       g      asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)
till i held your sin;            hand me down....

asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)    asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)    asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)
[guitar solo]
asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)    asus9  asus9/c  g  d(9)
[guitar solo]

now you ask me why i'm here; the same as you, i'm scared, it's fear
i've become the beggar now, and you've become the saint somehow
twist the words and place the blame, and tell me know, aren't we the same?
tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets  [extra half bar]

for some hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     g   -   d            c   -   bm7    am.
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all

amy's chords (any i haven't listed are "normal"):
asus9: x02200    asus9/c: x32200    g: 320033 or 320003    d(9): xx0230
am(9): x02210 and x02200 (hammer-on/pull-off between the two)
[amy might play a lot of the g chords as g6 (320030 or 320000).]

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

emily:

[emily plays lead parts in the verse, but strums "normal" chords in the
chorus and bridge.]
[chorus: bm=x24432, d(9)=xx0230; e=022100; a=x02220.]
[bridge: bm(9)=x24432 & x24422; a=x07650; esus9=x79977..]


[the song starts with two measures where only amy plays.]


e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
b --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
g 9-------9-7-6-7---------7-6-4-6-|--------6-4-2-4---46--4---------|
d --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[intro; play twice]


  bsus4           bsus4/a          a(9)            e
e ----------0---------------0-----|----------0---------7---------0-|
b ------0---------------0---------|------0-----------9---10--9-----|
g ----11--------------11----------|----6-----------9-----------9---|
d 9-------------------------------|7-------------------------------|
a ----------------12--------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
            i've taken                 so  many  down

  bsus4           bsus4/a          a(9)            e
e ------0-------0-------0-------0-|----------0-------7---7---7-----|
b --0-------0-------0-------0-----|------0-----------9---10--9-----|
g ----11--------------11----------|----6-----------9---------------|
d 9-----------9---------------9---|7-------------------------------|
a ----------------12--------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
                    i've helped them all to dismount

  bsus9           bsus9/a          a(9)            e
e ------0-------0-------0-------0-|------0------(0)----7---------0-|
b --0-------0-------0-------0-----|--0-------0-------9---10--9-----|
g ----11--------------11----------|----6-------6---9-----------9---|
d 9-----------9---------------9---|7-------------------------------|
a ----------------12--------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
             i've followed             so  many  down

  bsus9           bsus9/a          a(9)            e               (bm...)
e ------0-------0-------0-------0-|----------0--(0)7-----7---------|
b --0-------0-------0-------0-----|--0---0---------9-----9---------|
g ----11--------------11----------|----6-----------9-----9---------|
d 9-----------9---------------9---|7-------------------------------|
a ----------------12--------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
                      i take their hand-me-downs        (all with hope...)


          bm             d(9)       a  -  e         d(9) - e
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     a   -   e            d(9) - e
and loss of love brings wholeness
          bm             d(9)       a  -  e         d(9) - e
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     a   -   e            d(9)  -  e     bm [hold while amy plays 2 measures]
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all


[play intro riff again: 2 measures]


everything that i believe crawls from underneath the street
everything i truly love comes from somewhere far above
everything that i believe is wrong with you, is wrong with me
everything i truly love, i love in you and i love in me  [extra half measure]


so give me hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
     a   -   e            d(9)  -  e     bm(9)   bm(9)
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all


a       a                 esus9   esus9
  swear you can't swim the river
a           a               esus9   esus9
  i saw you running to jump in
a             a             esus9   esus9
  i swore i'd never be your sinner
a [hold]
  till i held your sin


[play intro riff again: 2 measures.]


e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
b --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
g 11--9-7---6---7---6---4---2---4~|------2=4~--2---2=4---4-----(0)-|
d --------------------------------|--2=4---------4-----------------|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[guitar solo]

e --0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0-|--0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0-|
b --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
g 11--9---7---6---7---6---4---2---|7---6---4---2---4---------------|
d --------------------------------|--------------------2---4---5---|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[guitar solo]

e --------------------------------|--------------------------0---0-|
b(5)-(5/8)-(8)-(7)----------------|------------5---5/7---7-----5---|
g 6---6/9---9---7--(6)-(7)--------|---------(0)6---6/7---7---------|
d ------------------7---9--(0)7---|7/9---9-------------------------|
a ----------------------------7---|7/9---9-------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[guitar solo]

e 7-----7-------------------0---0-|7-----7-------------------0-----|
b 7---6-5=6=5---3---0=3=0-----5---|7---6-5=6=5---3---0=3=0-----0---|
g --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
d --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[guitar solo]

e 10--9-7-------------------0-----|30--50--70--90----14--14--------|
b --------------7-------------0---|-(0)-(0)-(0)-(0)--12--12--------|
g ----------9-----------7---------|--------------------------------|
d ------------------9-------------|these are pull-offs,------------|
a --------------------------------|obviously; not thirty,----------|
e --------------------------------|fifty, etc.!--------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .
[guitar solo]

now you ask me why i'm here; the same as you, i'm scared, it's fear
i've become the beggar now, and you've become the saint somehow
twist the words and place the blame, and tell me know, aren't we the same?
tripping in our yellow feet, checking underneath our sheets  [extra half bar]

for some hope, give me hope, that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness
all with hope, all with hope, that emptiness brings fullness
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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| mts5@aber.ac.uk         \   for anyone, an absentee boss is best."   |
| indigojo@freenet.hut.fi  \     - jeannette winterson, "the passion"  |
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> preventing non-subscribers from posting would harm nobody (it's pretty bad
> netiquette to post to a list you don't subscribe to) and prevent a lot of
> bandwidth from being wasted. now that everybody's clear about my motivations,
> can we please discuss this idea without flamethrowers?
> kirsten
>
> --

doesn't stopping non sub's from preventing to the list prevent them from
becoming members, after all i';m willing to bet that once the 'offender'
reads the polite mail sent explaining who we are they will likely
subscribe and become part of the family,m this is after all what we are
about isnt it.

i've been a member for 2 years now and i don't remeber too many posts of
the - i wanna tell a&e i love em - nature expect for the recent batch ( 3
or 4 mails ) this isn't too much wasted bw when it comes to the great
scheme of things now os it !!

lets just have a heart explain who we are and open the door ...

later

jules ...

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sent a message to the webmaster about the spamming.  just wanted to
let y'all know about the response.

anna

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date:          wed, 04 feb 97  19:52:35
subject:       re: register your web site!

thank you for your recent e-mail. we appreciate your questions and comments.

we have advised the bellsouth.net subscriber who sent you unsolicited
e-mail that any further incidents of this nature may result in immediate
termination of his account with us.

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the difference is this...an indonesian-american will always be an
indonesian-american.......
a 16 yr old..will someday...hopefully..if we're all lucky...grow up.

folks...i'm old and tired and willing to "look back at my life and have a
good laugh" just like i did last night after i posted and then
thought.."you idiot..this is not the place to make posts when you're
havin those hot flashes..now go sit on the rocker and be quiet." but i
woke up this morning and counted 26 private e-mail thanking me for
shooting my mouth off..so i guess it wasn't so bad,,
but i'm done..from now on i'll just shake my head and laugh to myself..
but one last cynical sarcastic note.......i never named any name in my
post yet i sure got a response..only makes me think what my grandma used
to ask..."feelin'' quilty??"
or better..as my kids say all the time

she who smellt it..dealth it!!

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> i am wondering why such a ruckus is being raised over a post made by an
ig
> fan.

hey, i give the fan (and non-member) credit for posting actual igc!

- jen hall

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ok ok, c'mon now...this list used to be such a nice place to visit after a
long, awful day at work, but lately when i get home and read some of the
newbie-bashing, aol-bashing posts, i feel like i may as well have stayed at
the office!!!
while it's admirable of kirsten to privately e-mail helpful instructions to
list "offenders", her public posts are really setting an unfriendly and
forbidding tone...hardly in the spirit of emily, amy and their wonderful
music...which after all is what has brought us to this list!  in its own way,
this list and its members "represents" a&e to others...and what goes on here
should reflect their compassion and kindness, in tribute to them.
(just my humble opinion...)
maureen

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i've been getting some wonderful response from folks who have emily
"stuff" hiding and are willing to share..even have a kind soul who has a
"friend of a friend" in atlanta looking..so now that i'm over my snit i'd
lke to ask you all..if you have any old emily stuff, radio broadcast
tunes, hiss free ( or as hiss free as we can get) stuff..give me a
buzz..the plan is to put it all together, ask carolyn ( or her partner
now,,the one who remasters tapes) to remaster it and then offer it to the
list.we have about 60 mins so far...if you have anything good from shows
or just something you like..let me know..won't cost you but the price of
a blank tape..
this offer is open to all
thanks
pooh

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sheri e. allen wrote:
>
> i was just wonderin... my copy of so has a plastic jewel case and my 1200c is
> cardboard; but my bf's copies are the opposite: so is cardboard and 1200c is
> plastic.

i live in wisconsin and both my so and 1200c came in cardboard.  if i
had to guess, i'd say that the reason for the difference may have to do
with distributors and state packaging laws.  but i'm not a lawyer.  ( i
did, however, play one in my high school play ; ) ).

scott
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kirsten posted this...

>> well i do not even know if this message will get to you, but it's worth
>> the try.  i have been a fan for awhile now, it is something about your
>> music that connects with everything in my life...thanx shannon
>so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
>subscribers can post?
>kirsten
>

i suppose that it would be ok to have only listees be able to post,
but....in readinf the "simiple fan mail" letters, i get quite a little
giggle....in imagining the sweeties who write, hoping, praying that some ig
will write them.  it adds a little smile, especially when things get as
vicious as they have been lately.  maybe i am just a sucker for this kind
of naivity, but hey...one day in the past, we all had the same kinds of
thoughts, if not experiences.  keep smiling...

sara  (who is looking forward to the loopettes, loopies, loop-di-loops, and
all that come with them...)

______________________________________________________________________________
                                sara mccutchen
                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com


                        "but what i discover, lover after
            lover, there's nothing wrong with me...it's just a lie by

                  society, so i start looking at the world we
                 have and while it's not completely bad, there's
                    a lot of room for improvement: people of
                  color and the gay movement." --disappear fear

               "the choice is yours to make, time is your to take.
                 some dive into the sea, some toil upon the stone.
                         to live is to fly, low and high,
           so, shake the dust off of your wings, sleep out of your eye."
                                 --t. van zandt
______________________________________________________________________________

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sbeth is s for sara with beth for beth, my middle name.  a friend in high
school used to call me sbeth (not s-beth, but s'beth) as a term of
endearment, and i suppose it stuck...if anyone cares.  just my 10 yen...

sara

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                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com


                        "but what i discover, lover after
            lover, there's nothing wrong with me...it's just a lie by

                  society, so i start looking at the world we
                 have and while it's not completely bad, there's
                    a lot of room for improvement: people of
                  color and the gay movement." --disappear fear

               "the choice is yours to make, time is your to take.
                 some dive into the sea, some toil upon the stone.
                         to live is to fly, low and high,
           so, shake the dust off of your wings, sleep out of your eye."
                                 --t. van zandt
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tuesday's child posted this...


>> p.s. are these tapes gonna hold up to being played 60 times and mailed all
>> over the world??
>
>        of course they will. they're maxell. hey, that gives me an idea.
>can we get maxell to sponsor this as some sort of promo thingy to show
>how well their tapes hold up? i know it would never happen, but it's a
>neat idea, huh?
>        btw, in case you're wondering how i know that all the tapes will
>be maxell? i think we all know by now that maxell is the preferred tape of
>the ig list for it's superior sound quality and endurance. what else
>would any of us use to put our beloved girls on?

for those of us in japan (ie...maren and myself), we cannot get maxell
here.  however, there are japanese equivs...hope this is not a problem.
fuji and sony kinda have a monopoly on us...smiles.

sara

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                                sara mccutchen
                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com


                        "but what i discover, lover after
            lover, there's nothing wrong with me...it's just a lie by

                  society, so i start looking at the world we
                 have and while it's not completely bad, there's
                    a lot of room for improvement: people of
                  color and the gay movement." --disappear fear

               "the choice is yours to make, time is your to take.
                 some dive into the sea, some toil upon the stone.
                         to live is to fly, low and high,
           so, shake the dust off of your wings, sleep out of your eye."
                                 --t. van zandt
______________________________________________________________________________

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here, here!!!!!  (<---to pooh)

it seems that maybe kirsten's animosity stems from aol's imcompetence (or
what she views as such...i don't use it and thus, am in no position to
judge), not from the folks who unknowingly write to ig on this list.  maybe
the posts should be about aol and not the folks who "don't know the rules."
if this crap does not end soon, however, i will get off...it is a waste of
energy and time, things that are precious to me, even if that means not
sharing the music of ig, which is why we are all here, right?

sara

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                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com


                        "but what i discover, lover after
            lover, there's nothing wrong with me...it's just a lie by

                  society, so i start looking at the world we
                 have and while it's not completely bad, there's
                    a lot of room for improvement: people of
                  color and the gay movement." --disappear fear

               "the choice is yours to make, time is your to take.
                 some dive into the sea, some toil upon the stone.
                         to live is to fly, low and high,
           so, shake the dust off of your wings, sleep out of your eye."
                                 --t. van zandt
______________________________________________________________________________

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crispian is a reference to st. crispin as referenced in henry v's speech
before he leads his men in to battle against the dauphin.  the first
time i saw it on film in k. brannagh's production, it moved me to
tears.  i use the end of the speech as my sig-line below.  (imagine my
joy when they played the speech in the pre-game show before the
superbowl in which my beloved packers whupped the patriots.)  my 2 lira.

scott
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        sorry for the waste of bw, but does anyone have the chord tabs and
words to the three songs: closer to nashville in the springtime??
        if you could email me privately i'd be appreciative :)

have a nice day~~

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
i       or i'll see you around. i don't know if these highs     l
g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
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susan wrote:
>so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and let them
>know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?
>i'm volunteering!

then pj wrote:
>susan b. marine
>you are a woman after my heart.  i now understand why you have a fan club
> :*)


i just want to second this and remind *everyone* to join the susan b. marine
fan club.....all you gotta do is send susan mail every so often telling
her how wonderful she is and how much you love her.....and as soon as you
do it you'll realize it's true.  i didn't really know susan when sundara
and jan and corinne started the club but in the last couple of months
i've discoved some of what inspired them to do it.  i know susan's
probably getting all shy and crawling under a rock reading this (hi,
susan!  cute rock.) but i thought she deserved another round of public awe.

so join the club, but don't stop there.  everyone needs a little love and
encouragement sometimes...everyone likes to be reminded of how wonderful
they are and how much they matter....so speak up.  please, after you read
this, go remind at least one person how special she or he is.  do it more
than once if you want.  remind lots of people.  compliment a stranger's
festive hat or whistle a tune for someone who's feeling down.  and if
you're feeling down yourself, do it anyway.....sometimes making someone
else feel good is the best thing you can do for yourself.  oh, and remind
yourself too.  that you love yourself, and that you're special.  because
it's true, and the more you keep saying it the easier it is to remember.
loving ourselves and loving each other builds the community that makes
life all worthwhile.  thank you all for being a part of this one which
has enriched my life in so many ways.........

love you all,
audrey

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date:          tue, 4 feb 1997 18:56:16 est

i'm with susan!
i really have enjoyed the kindness and friendliness of this list
group and i want that feeling to come across to others, especially
those who aren't familiar with the list
soooooooo, i volunteer to send nice explanatory notes, as well

and kirsten, i don't know you, but i ask, with good intentions, to
please retract your claws and stop your hissing
it's upsetting to think that everytime someone makes a mistake you
are going to be there with gasoline and matches

kim

--- kirsten wrote:
so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so
that only subscribers can post? kirsten --- end of quoted material ---
so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and
let them know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?

i'm volunteering!

susan

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              97 8:21 am

>
> sheri e. allen wrote:
> >
> > i was just wonderin. my copy of so has a plastic jewel case and my 1200c is
> > cardboard; but my bf's copies are opposite: so is cardboard and 1200c is
> > plastic.
>

scott replied:

> i live in wisconsin and both my so and 1200c came in cardboard.  if i
> had to guess, i'd say that the reason for the difference may have to do
> with distributors and state packaging laws.  but i'm not a lawyer.  ( i
> did, however, play one in my high school play ; ) ).


its a marketing strategy.

some people love buying the digipacs (the cardboard) because they are
more environmentally friendly -- though i would _love_ to see the
research on that because i seriously doubt its true.  they also tend
to take up less room on a shelf.

other people love the jewel boxes and won't buy the digipacs.  the cd
is less likely to drop out of a jewel box, the cd playing surface
never comes in contact with material, and they are more durable with
time.  count me in that group.

ig typically releases in both formats, but puts out the digipacs
first.  as i result, i was "forced" to by a copy of 12cc in digipac --
and now my cd has spots it will no longer play because the playing
surface is damaged.  i need a new copy and i'm kind of tecked about it
to be frank -- but i digress ;)

as for the environmentally friendly thing, its not like i throw the
jewel boxes into land fills -- they are constantly in use.  plastic
is not always an evil thing.

hope that helps!

                                long live the jewel box!

                                        chris

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> >  on "world cafe" weds. 2/5 (at least in philly area -- to kick off the
>
> if someone could tape this, i'm sure a lot of us would be eternally
> grateful... =)  peace, love, and birds on fire, sarah


i'm in philly -- if someone could tell me what time and what station
_i'd_ be eternally grateful....  please email me directly -- i'm on
digest mode so i wouldn't get it in time....

thanks!
deb
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okay....i'm getting a bit sad with all the yucky stuff thats been on the
list lately...i've been having a bad month, and i usually find comfort
reading the list after a crappy day...but, it has not been the case lately...

so this is my attepmt to bring ig stuff/chat back onto the list....

1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
weakest? (if there is one)

2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour? (like,
give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from past
albums will be played...)

3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
know! :))

hmmmmm...i guess that should do it for now...post back and share your thoughts!

--sue (who has been feelin' blue)

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
                                -- amy ray

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subject:      suggestion for loop tapes

just an idea and amy can chuck it if she likes....

within the us, it would be fun if we broke up the geographical
regions.  it may cost a few cents more in postage, and maybe an extra
day in delivery, but one of the reasons i _really_ like this idea is
it gives a chance to get exposure to all those regional bands that
never get the chance to do gigs outside of say, new england.

last night i was designing my tape.  i was attempting to stay away
from artists that get lots of play here (ig, ani, dar, df) or bands
that have already made it (peter gabriel, u2, rem).  some of those
folks may make the final cut just because they are so cool -- but i'm
looking over my brain storming list and i see names like jim
infantino, barbara kessler, jon svetkey, peter mulvey, the nields,
eddie from ohio, etc. that are predominately regional.  i'l love to
hear the stuff coming out of the pnw, mid-atlantic, and atlanta areas
(to name a few).

anyway, this is really a great project and i'm having a blast doing it.
amy, if you've already set up your circles, forget i brought this up.
but if you didn't, this might be a fun thing to consider....

                        with a post of many plugs,

                                  chris

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subject:      re: loop tape/distribution

the idea of the loop tape sounds great....until we
get into the specifics of it. not only do we have the problem
of those of us who are overseas, but also what happens
if one of us drops out of the loop, goes on holiday,
can't afford the packaging one week etc etc? does the loop
instantly break down?

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i was talking to andi the other day about fried green tomatoes at the
whistle stop cafe and had a few questions that i can't remember being
talked about when the book came up in list conversation a few months
back.  (if you haven't read the book, i'm not trying to exclude people
here....go read it tonight and share your thoughts.  it's well worth the
time.  unless you have a physics midterm tomorrow or something, then wait
a week. ;)


it seemed to be fair consensus that idgie and ruth were in love in the
book, and that's actually stated in two places, but what that means is
open to interpretation.

the way i read it, idgie was having sex with eva, the first time on the
day that ruth left (when idgie was 16) and then often for the next five
years or so until ruth came back.  after that...she and ruth became a
couple, but there is no mention of sex between them that i could find,
and i wondered what you all thought about that.  my take is that the bulk
of what they do physically is hug and kiss, in a very tender but not
sexual way.  and then idgie goes to eva for sex.  (she takes stump down
there once, you may remember, and tells him not to tell his mom that
she's been there before.)  how do y'all read this?  is idgie a lesbian
and ruth only partly so?  is eva bisexual?  did fannie flagg just leave out
details to make the book sell better or was this intended?

discuss.  :)

i'd like to see some listserv discussion on this one, but if this is too
much nigc <no indigo girls content> for you, go for private email and
send a copy of your responses to andi at ablipman@mail.sas.upenn.edu.

thanks y'all,
audrey

p.s.  you'll note i explained nigc in the above paragraph.  someone asked
about the abbreviations lately...perhaps in addition to simply suggesting
the faq (it is long, and while someone may be planning not to post until
reading it, s/he might benefit in the meanwhile from understanding a bit
more of our jargon) we could make a conscious effort to define our
abbreviations over the next week.

p.p.s.  hi all you relative newbies!  welcome to the list.  if you chill
out for awhile until you get the feel of it, then post some intelligent
stuff and throw in a bit of your personality, you'll feel a part of this
place in no time.  i only joined myself back in october, and they
already love me......

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from kirsten:

> yes, there are rules. sorry, i just broke one of them by formatting the
> previous sentence in all caps

no there are not rules.  you have know right to tell me what i can and can type
on my computer, or send out over a public network.  the people who own the
network, and the person who owns manages the list does, but not anyone else.
that falls under the heading of free speach and fredom of expression. so, feel
free to write in as many caps as you like. but, just because you feel the need
to have a well structured society, don't try to push that bond on me under the
precepts of accepted norms.

< computer networks have held up so well precisely because they have certain
< unwritten, mutually-agreed-upon rules that most of their users follow most
< of the time. if all the rules went away, the internet as we know it would
< fall apart immediately.

the fact that we are having this discussion shows that they are not
mutually-agreed-upon.  and the internet prospered because it allows for the free
flow of ideas, not because of any rigid rules of conduct.

< but at least *consider* the possibility that your knowledge of my age
< (whether gleaned from my web page, guessed from my e-mail address, or gotten
< from pooh's recent revelation) may be influencing your judgement. it seems
< like age is the last non-chosen characteristic around which it's still
< socially acceptable to make demeaning generalizations about people.

in fact, i had no idea you are 16.  you seem quite well educated and very mature
and thoughtful. if i didn't feel that way i wouldn't waste time arguing w/ you.
and don't fell picked upon because your young.  everybody gets prejudge.  if you
see a bent-up car, it's usaully a good idea to assume the driver is dangerous.

< i promise this is my last public meta-post relating to this latest flame war;
< if you have an issue with anything i say here, please respond to it *privately

no, i'm not going to let you have your say and then turn off the micro-phone.

< i will give you a thoughtful hearing as long as you refrain from using
< language which would cause your account to be terminated were i to forward
< your mail to your postmaster. for your own good, y'know? :-)

i try not to talk like that, even when there are no repercusions. ma batey done
taught her boys good.

rebelious as ever,

trant

p.s.    don't i spell good :)

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>1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
>think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
>weakest? (if there is one)

for some reason i really like holy city.  it just hit the right spot when i
first heard it, and fell in love with it immediately.  i also of course
really like get out the map.  there are some others like leeds, winthrop,
and chiapas bound that i love, but i am more in the mood for fast upbeat
songs!!!=)  shame on you is also great.  gee...i don't think there is one i
don't really like...except maybe cut it out, but then again we have already
had that discussion haven't we!!!:)


>
>2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour? (like,
>give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from past
>albums will be played...)
>

i don't know about this one, but i hope they bring in galileo,
watershed...although i don't know if they will sing this on tour, i am sure
they will get a little ctf in there somewhere, lc, sf, and i am sure a few
others such as cg, wood song...ect....

>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
>what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
>know! :))


ummmm....well, i love corona with lime, so most likely that...depending on
the setting!!!

well, i am certainly glad to see some igc!!!!

peace and love
tucker


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because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
---ig
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at 10:27 am 2/5/97, audrey beth stein wrote:

>so join the club, but don't stop there.  everyone needs a little love and
>encouragement sometimes...everyone likes to be reminded of how wonderful
>they are and how much they matter....so speak up.  please, after you read
>this, go remind at least one person how special she or he is.  do it more
>than once if you want.  remind lots of people.  compliment a stranger's
>festive hat or whistle a tune for someone who's feeling down.  and if
>you're feeling down yourself, do it anyway.....sometimes making someone
>else feel good is the best thing you can do for yourself.  oh, and remind
>yourself too.  that you love yourself, and that you're special.  because
>it's true, and the more you keep saying it the easier it is to remember.
>loving ourselves and loving each other builds the community that makes
>life all worthwhile.  thank you all for being a part of this one which
>has enriched my life in so many ways.........
>
>love you all,
>audrey

audrey, honey, you just gave my computer diabetes.  i gotta go give it a
shot of insulin...  ;o)

i'm not an *official* member of the sbm fan club, but i play one on tv.
hehe ;o)  ...and you are right...suz is at this moment hiding under a rock.
i will coax her out this weekend when i see her at the big boston ig bash.

later dudes!

joni  :o)

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subject:      re: so and 1200c cd cases
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i have the cardboard case for my 1200 curfews cd as well.  i've seen both,
and the only difference i've seen is the price.  the jewel case was
selling for 25$ while the cardboard one was selling for 20$.

with stain glass smiles,
xochitl, who just finished her dna exam. errr.

on wed, 5 feb 1997, sheri e. allen wrote:

> hi all,
>
> i was just wonderin... my copy of so has a plastic jewel case and my 1200c is
> cardboard; but my bf's copies are the opposite: so is cardboard and 1200c is
> plastic.  i'm curious why this is- is it a demographical issue (he's in pa &
> i'm in ny), or did they just run out of plastic or something ;)  i thought
> the whole point of making 1200c with a cardboard case was to be
> environmentally conscious, so why wasn't it consistently done?
>
> just curious, and trying to get some igc (sort of) going- maybe this was
> discussed before but i was snoozing....
>
> -sheri :)  <-- who, on her first day back to grad school, overslept and
> missed her first ever practicum session :(
>
> "...where is bart, anyway?  his dinner is getting all cold and eaten." -
> homer simpson
>
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>  _    _----_          o   |...when you learn
> { ~\_/    o \   o  o      |to love yourself
> { ~ _  ]    <  o          |you will dissolve
> {_~/ \_    _/             |all the stones
>        \/--               |that are cast...
>  seaphish@aol.com         | -amy ray
>  seallen@sprintmail.com
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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                      grant me the serenity to accept
                        the things i cannot change,
                         the courage to change the
                           things i cannot accept,
                         and the wisdom to hide the
                           bodies of those people
                            i had to kill today
                         because they pissed me off,
                       and also, help me be careful of
                          the toes i step on today,
                          as they may be connected
                           to the ass that i may
                           have to kiss tomorrow.
                                    \o/
                                     |
                                    / \

                                 with love,
                                     xochitl :)

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subject:      re: changing the subject back to ig  :)

sue so nicely changed the subject and wrote:

>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your
>choice, what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but
hey...i
>wanna know! :))

ooo, this is a good one.  okay.  i have more than once choice.  so i
guess i would have to buy them more than one beer.  first i would by them
an alaskan amber or, if that wasn't on tap, i get them a moss bay brewing
co. amber ale  (i'm a big amber fan)  yummy. and second, i would by them
a black and tan, which is guinness floated on top of another, lighter
beer, my choice would be lemon lager. cause it's fruity and fun, but the
beer still has some yummy flavor from from the guinness.

hmmm. now i want a beer.  betsy!!  why don't you leave work early, skip
all your obligations, and lets go get a pitcher...heh heh...find solace
in a bottle...

love sundara <-- who is a bigtime pnw beer snob and still the presy of
the sbmfc
and i am still thinking about the other two questions.

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on wed, 5 feb 1997, scott wm eastman wrote:

> > i was just wonderin... my copy of so has a plastic jewel case and my 1200c is
> > cardboard; but my bf's copies are the opposite: so is cardboard and 1200c is
> > plastic.
>
> i live in wisconsin and both my so and 1200c came in cardboard.  if i
> had to guess, i'd say that the reason for the difference may have to do
> with distributors and state packaging laws.  but i'm not a lawyer.  ( i
> did, however, play one in my high school play ; ) ).

i know the cardboard cases were a move towards more "environmentally
responsible" packaging, but i think the jewelboxing (in both so and
1200c) was probably a record-company move. <shrug> i bought both so and
1200c on the day they came out, and mine are both cardboard (because they
didn't have jewelboxed ones at the stores i went to). i suspect that the
first-shipped cds were probably mostly cardboard cases, in an attempt to
sell more of the responsibly-packaged version....

+o-renee landrum, smith college, northampton ma---slandrum@sophia.smith.edu-o+
"don't resent your struggles; struggle is a victory. through struggle,
change occurs, and through change, liberation occurs." -aishah shahidah simmons
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subject:      re: screen names

hey all...   my turn --  my screen name is a combination of two nicknames
that i've had in recent years. some of my friends started calling me "ween",
as in "what a weenie!," several years ago, because of reasons that i can now
only vaguely remember...  and a few select people who have had the distinct
pleasure of taking a road trip with me have started calling me "speed racer"
because, well, what can i say, i have a bit of a lead foot :)

-- lisa

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hi, all,

i've always felt closely connected to cats, although i'm unsure whether
it's because i was a cat in my last life or i'm going to be one in my
next life.  and since my name is tom, and "tomcat" is a word already,
it seemed natural.  i have friends from the net and from rainbow
gatherings who call me tomcat now.  my mom doesn't like it, because
in her day "tomcat" meant a guy who was always out sleeping with lots
of women, but i don't think of it that way.

and yes, i have a eight-year-old long-haired orange tabby named teddy, who
i love very much.  he likes to sit on my chest and lick my neck, which
takes getting used to , let me tell you!

but it's a myth that *all* bisexuals like cats!  really!  just because
i do doesn't mean it's not a myth! :-)

back to your regularly scheduled igc . . .

tom

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       \ _/__   to know the truth
        \\  /   i was mistaken
          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

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to steal a phrase from joni...

one more big list reminder for interested parties.  the boston area
will get a dose of highly localized, intense indigo energy this
weekend when a bunch of us hard core nutballs converge on teele
square in somerville for an indigo kinda day.  if you are interested
in attending and have not rsvp'd, or need details, please e-mail me
and i will get all info to you.  basically, it's sat at 1pm till
around 6ish.

also, if you are in the area and would like to be kept aware of
some of these sorts of events, or other musical happenings of
interest in the area, chris becker has kindly set up a little list
for us.  e-mail him at cmbecker@space.mit.edu to get on that list.

see some of you on sat!

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amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin

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at 10:40 am 2/5/97, christopher m. becker wrote:
>but i'm looking over my brain storming list and i see names like jim
>infantino, barbara kessler, jon svetkey, peter mulvey, the nields,
>eddie from ohio, etc. that are predominately regional.  i'l love to
>hear the stuff coming out of the pnw, mid-atlantic, and atlanta areas
>(to name a few).

i agree chris.  i bet if you and i swapped tapes, we'd prolly send each
other very similar tapes since we live about 3 blocks from each other in
the boston area. i must say though my tape will have a few songs from a
*great* sacramento ca band called "mumbo gumbo"  (hey shmettes!  you're a
gumbo groupie, aren't you?  i love mg!)

counting down the days to the big boston ig bash.....

joni  :o)

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hi all,
        i'm looking for the two albums 'best of austen city limits' and
'live at the world cafe'.  i know that they have been released in the us,
but i live in the uk.  has anyone over here seen them?  is there somewhere
that i could order them from to post to the uk?

        please reply by direct e-mail

        thanks

        katherine

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subject:      re: changing the subject back to ig

in answer to question number 3 'what beer would you buy
emily and amy?' i'd like to bring in some cross cultural
stuff here and say a calton coldie. i lived in australia for
a year. it was whilst drinking a calton cold that i first
heard ig. can you imagen........great beer, hazey evening,
sat underneath the sydney harbour bridge looking accross
at the city and the opera house, holding hands with my new
girlfriend, trying not to feel too nervous. swamp ophelia
just fitted in so perfectly in the back ground. but hey! now
i'm a student and can't afford a beer, it's raining outside, i'm in
in the computer lab at uni in england and my now ex
girlfriend is seeing someone new. swamp ophelia still fits
in so perfectly in the back ground. there are just
some things that never change no matter what!!

so yeah..calton cold would be my choice. they brought
some thing new to me. i'd like to take some thing new to
them.

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yes! it's a post with ig content!

perry at rainy day records called me last night and wanted me to pass
along some info....

vol 1 of the early recordings series, the ep and more, is currently
being pressed onto standard cds (not the cd-r format).  for those
unfamiliar with this recording, it is a specially put together (ie
not on epic) collection of early indigo girls recordings.  all 6
tracks from the ep are on it, a number of tracks from amy ray's
color me grey colleciton, and some other tracks from unknown
sources.  quality of all tracks is very very good.  i dont have my
cd-r copy with me, so i dont have the track list or time (but it
is more than an hour long).  the cover is still in black and
white but will be a bit different from the cd-r version.

the price of this edition is $19.95 plus shipping and orders are being
taken now.  the actual cd's wil be in hand in 7-10 days and the
first ones shipped will be the pre-orders.  if you have a cd-r
version and want to swap for this one, just call the store.
amy and emily *are* aware of these recordings but are not directly
involved.

rainy day records can be reached at 1-800-636-6166 or at
rainy@rainy.com.  vol 2, levees that break in my heart, is also
still available.  ask about other ig recordings when you call.
all questions can be directed to perry and the gang at the store.

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin

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ann!  please email me regarding your "on the road to austin boot"!!!
a little problem with the postage.....

--sue kwan

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
                                -- amy ray

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subject:      nigc.....nicknames

gee....can we say i need to get some damn sleep????
wrong &^$% addy....sheesh....

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date:    97-02-05 12:41:33 est
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to:      indigo-girls@netscape.org

okay, i suppose i oughtta jump on this one.  my screen name actually has an
unusual story behind it.  dyke is pretty obvious, so i'll explain the ave
part.  the ave is a street in the university district in seattle.  living on
the ave is a group of homeless kids called averats (don't ask, i don't know
where they got the name).  i spent roughly a year and a half as an averat,
and was given the street name dyke dawn.  when i finally got a clue and got a
job and all that fun stuff, i was still known by my street kid friends as
dyke dawn.  when it came time to try and figure out an appropriate screen
name, avedyke just made sense.

just my 3000 pesos (lousy exchange rate, huh? :)

dawn

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date:         wed, 5 feb 1997 14:51:12 -0500
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i had written before how i really liked holy city, but deb pointed out to me
that it is an old song.  sorry for the cluelessness on my part:)
i know that there are some newbies out there who are probably wishing they
had some really cool boots.  maybe after things get settled down and i get
caught up with my life, i can get some out to people.  if anyone is
interested please email me privately and i will share the wealth.

take care all
peace and happiness
tucker


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because you'd cry your eyes out
if you didn't
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date:         wed, 5 feb 1997 19:56:36 gmt0bst
reply-to:     "k.r.onions" <ps9c6okr@swansea.ac.uk>
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subject:      re: loop tapes

can't wait for these things to happen. i'm looking forward
to hearing some new stuff really soon. my tape for one,
won't just be the regular run of the mill stuff....let's all open
our minds and put really new sounding stuff on our tapes?

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from:         john bond <bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk>
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subject:      i'm a newbie and proud of it!

hi, i'm a newbie (i only got on the net yesterday!) and i'm really
happy to be in a nice friendly group. i hope it stays that way.

john
"i sit two stories above the street, it's awful
quite here since love fell asleep..."

indigo girls, least complicated

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>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
>what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
>know! :))
>

        if i could buy them a commercial beer i'd select anchor steam, which
is what i generally select when i'm not trying new ones.  it's a nice clean
beer for all occasions.

        if i could "give" them any beer, then i'd pour them one of *my*
double malt ambers (actually it's more like a triple malt).  it's yummy.

relax and have a homebrew,
cathy

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re: pooh's letter ( i included it below mine)
amen, i said amen sister!!!!!!! (i know it's not polite to type in all
caps but i can tell you're not going to call the netiquitte police on
me).  we need to remember that we all start out clueless (some of us
remain clueless even to this day) so in the spirit of some of the better
things that we find in our shared enjoyment of the girls music... lets
be kind to one another! (oops i'm yelling again aren't i)
love, i said love!!!!!!!
cybernot  ( joan eddis-koch )
(my nom de plume is a reflection on my lack of computer expertise. sort
of picture me floating around lost in cyberspace trying to learn as much
as i can.)


   date:    wed, 5 feb 1997 00:22:17 -0800
   from:    pooh <pooh40@mc.net>
   subject: nastiness on the list nigc but i've had enough

   hmm..i'm trying real hard to remember if i was as self indulgent and
   nasty and rude  to others as a certain 16 yr poster on our list is
being
   when i was that young and immature..
   what was it my ma always told me in the old days..:
   make new friends....
   you can always attract more bees with honey , not vinager...
   say unto others as you would want them to say unto you..
   if you don't have something nice to say..then don't say anything at
   all...
   in other words..
   what difference does it makes if someones posts to this list thinking
   they are really talking to amy and emily...( don't tell me we all
don't
   have the secret wish that it was true and they were really reading
   everthing we have to say)
   this isn't a secret club..we didn't take an oath.. there is no secret
   handshake...we will not be complaciant( so what if i can't spell..i'm
   old..or is that gonna be held against me now??)everyone has the
freedom
   to say what they want..its allright if you hate aol. people,they love
   you....there are no rules..you can post to this list if you don't
know
   how to format a computer or make a web page or stand on your head and
   shoot ping pong balls out your....no wait ..that only happened in
   pricilla..i digress..
   all you have to do to "belong to this list"..the only rule involved
is
   that you like the music..you don't even have to love it..strike
that..you
   don't have to like the music at all..you can offer intelligent polite
   opinions why we shouldn't listen..and well listen to your
opinion..cause
   everyone is entitled to one...
   if you don't like the way this list is made up then start your
own..one
   where only the people who are just like you can belong
   one where only people just like you with your beliefs and your ideals
and
   your rigidness and your self serving attitudes can belong.
   one where you get to make the rules and if you don't like someone you
can
   kick them out or make fun of them in order to make yourself seem
better..
   i think that was all done in the 40's..( are you to young to
   understand??)
   sorry to rant and rave and sound like an old fart but this has really
   been pissing me off lately.
   in other words..grow up
   pooh ( who used to have an aol account
   and didn't know what nigc meant
   and posted stupid posts to the list
   and wished a and e really read it
   and had some very kind folks e-mail me privately when i messed up so
i
   wouldn't look like a fool to the entire list)
   i'm done..i feel better

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
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hi hunny bunches of oats

here's what i would send to people who are new to the list and "mis-post" a
message to the girls. or act in any other "clueless" way ;)

i'd forward this with  the faq parts 1,2, and 3 and the ig list faq.

or, chris/jude, do you prefer to handle this cause you are after all the
owners?

i just want the nastiness to stop and the crying about "clueless" people to
subside.

xoxoxo,
susanna

*****

welcome to the ig list. we're glad to have you! :)

please take a few minutes to read through the faq (freqently asked questions).
especially important are the faq related to the list...in the document titled
"list faq". please familiarize yourself with the format of the list, what
subjects are okay to discuss and which are "verboten", etc. also, please note
that this is a list for discussion of amy and emily and their music, but it is
not a direct line to them (or their fan club).

thanks for being a part of our list. we're sure in no time you'll feel right at
home!

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subject:      kirsten, report me to the postmaster immediately
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> from:    kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
> subject: re: nastiness on the list nigc but i've had enough
>
> if you have an issue with anything i say here, please respond to it
> *privately*;
> i will give you a thoughtful hearing as long as you refrain from using
> language
> which would cause your account to be terminated were i to forward your mail
> to
> your postmaster. for your own good, y'know? :-)
> kirsten

kirsten
why do you feel the need to threaten, demean and belittle people?
for your own good..... get help  y'know?????
cybernot
"mean people suck" ( you gonna report me now????)

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i am trying to get onto this list in any way possible.  please someone help
me...

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on wed, 5 feb 1997, c. mayhew wrote:

> >3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
> >what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
> >know! :))

on wed, 5 feb 1997, c.mayhew wrote:

[snip]

>         if i could "give" them any beer, then i'd pour them one of *my*
> double malt ambers (actually it's more like a triple malt).  it's yummy.
>
> relax and have a homebrew,


i'm with you cathy!!!  if i could "give" them any beer, i'd offer up one
of my favorites, triple a (anderson's african amber).  this brew was my
frist attempted at dry hops, and it turned out devine.  amy and emily
had best show up pretty soon before it's all gone, however!  the mugs
are chilling in the freezer...

if i was unable to offer homebrew, and could only buy them a commercial
beer, i'd have to go with my local (seattle) favorite after which my
triple a is modelled, mac&jack's african amber.  an alternate would be
a portland beer, mcminneman's hammerhead amber.  both delicious.  have
microbrews caught on nation-wide?

put on some ig, kick your shoes off, relax, and have a homebrew.

cheers-


melissa anderson
anderson@biostat.washington.edu

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indigodays@aol.com wrote:
>
> i am trying to get onto this list in any way possible.  please someone help
> me...


typical aol customer.  is there anyway we can make the list unavailable
to aol people?

no.  really.  i'm only joking.  in my small mind it's funny.

scott
crispian@writeme.com
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and gentlemen in england now a-bed shall think themselves accursed they
were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that
fought with us upon saint crispian's day.

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something to consider if this was turned into a "members only" list...
        i imagine there are folks out there that just can't handle the
amount of messages generated by this ig loving family for whatever reasons.
but, suppose they loved this ig family and wanted to be the first to
publicly share up-to-the-minute dates, trivia, announcements, or otherwise.
seems like we would be cheating ourselves out of a friend.

and just for the sake of fantasy:
        suppose one of the igs happened to see a day's worth of posts from
this list and it happened to include one of the "dreaded"
newbie/non-subscriber posts expressing their admiration and support directly
to ms. saliers or ms. ray.--and then a whole string of slams from other ig
fans followed.  what a horrible revelation to discover about that sea of
folks you perform for.

try to love one another right now!

--cathy

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hi everyone!
as you can tell by the subject line, today wasn't the best.  ok, here's
some background:  every monday, wednesday, and friday i have a 2 hour
break between my 7am class and 10am class.  so, i sit in the student
center with a friend of mine (we'll call her jen).  a few weeks ago,
jen's ex-boyfriend's brother (we'll call him todd) started sitting with
us, along w/ his friend (we'll call him dameon).  nice guys, all of us
have been having pleasant conversations, blah blah blah.  todd has made
a few remarks in the past about homosexuals before (not very nice
remarks), but i just keep my mouth closed and smile 'cause i wouldn't
want to out myself.  well, today, it got to be too much.  he started
some topic on masturbation, then he said how he thought that bordered on
the line of homosexuality, then he went on and on and on.  i thought i
was going to burst!  i surprised myself, i was exceptionally calm in
trying to explain my points, w/o saying something like "i know this
becasue of personal experience," or something.  todd then asked if jen
or i were "ok w/ gays" i said yes (duh), and i was pleasantly surprised
to hear jen say she was also.  he said it was wrong, that a woman-woman
or man-man thing was just for sex, it was gross and sick and perverted.
  you know what i wanted to do?  i wanted to grab the girl sitting and
the next table and totally go at in front of them, right there, in the
middle of the f***ing student center!  i wanted to cry out at the top of
my lungs "i'm a lesbian you idiot!  i know what i'm talking about!"  and
it's sooo fustrating, because i don't have the strength to do it!
well, all of us had to go to class, so that was the end of that.  todd
said something about bringing it back up tomorrow, oh well, hopefully
i'll be able to contain myself and not wring his neck.  i know that he
should be entitled to his own opinion, and me mine, but when he says "i
think all homosexuals should be executed," what am i supposed to say?

i'm sorry for the nigc, i just felt that you gals and guys are the
only ones who would understand.  thanks for "reading."

andrea (not beth)

"but what it takes to cross the great divide seems more than all the
courage i can muster up inside." --e. saliers

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hello again, i just want to apologize for that last post.  i just read
it (it was sent to me) and i'm sorry for the references to obscene
language.  i realize now that i should not post to the list in bouts of
rage.  i am sorry if i offened anyone with that or with the rest of the
content.  i would unsend it if i could.  again, i am _very_ sorry!

andrea

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from:         rose west <nitelite6@aol.com>
subject:      re: ig ??  (actually nigc)

in a message dated 97-02-05 17:16:57 est, scott writes:

>typical aol customer.  is there anyway we can make the list unavailable
>to aol people?
>
>no.  really.  i'm only joking.  in my small mind it's funny.
>
>scott
>crispian@writeme.com

:::::sigh::::::::getting tired of the aol "jokes" - yes i guess it is because
i have aol and plan on keeping it.  maybe aol is having problems with
providing quality service...but does that mean aol members are of a lower
intelligence level????

can anyone who wants to bash aol and its members in the future please include
that in your subject line ( subject: nigc....aol bashing) so that i can chose
to ignore the message? thanks :-)

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i have one sealed cd copy of shades of indigo that needs a new home.

the cd will go to the highest bidder  whose bid is received  by  wed
2/12  6pm est  (1 week from today).

email me privately to place a bid or for more information at
bedwards@actamed.com

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subject:      re: simple fan mail
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i love the fan posts. they make me giggle. if amy and emily really read
these things i'd post every 5 minutes.
ben

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anyone here have a video of ig singing lc on letterman? i'll be willing
to trade an audio boot or two for it.
ben

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subject:      re: nastiness on the list nigc but i've had enough
x-to:         pooh40@mc.net

i completely agree with this.  kirsten, and others, are being extremely
obnoxious. i'm sorry if i offended anyone by asking if i could still be on
the mailing list after receiving the extremely rude email from kirsten.  i'm
new to this list, but that does not mean that i don't deserve the same
respect from fellow indigo girls listeners.  and maybe the people who do not
have good feelings towards what this mailing list is turning into... just
shouldn't be on it.  sorry for this outburst, but i agree with pooh, and this
was really bugging me.

okimo4@aol.com

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date:         thu, 6 feb 1997 11:24:09 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hi folks,

note: the following information applies to users of the
pal video system only.  ie. only to people in australia,
the uk, europe and the parts of asia that do not use the
usa's ntsc video format.

that said - who out there is interested in helping out
with some sort of video boot tree for us pal folks?  my
obliging buddy greg has kindly offered to convert a
few tapes from ntsc to pal for me.  when that's done,
i'll be ready to start dubbing the tapes.  in the
meantime i'd like to find out who'd be interested in
getting copies or being part of a dubbing tree.

the tapes i'll be getting converted are:
    - "jesus christ superstar: a resurrection"
    - a tape of assorted clips (1hr)
    - a concert video tape (2hrs)

note that i don't know the quality of the last two tapes
as i haven't ever actually watched them.  there may be
more tapes to come as well but for now i'm just trying to
find out how much enthusiasm there'd be for a project like
this.

private mail me your responses please - and remember, this
offer does not apply to anyone in the us or canada or any
other country that uses the ntsc video format.

happy happy all,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"and in between the moon and you, the angels get a better view
of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
well i walk in the air, between the rain,
through myself and back again.
where?  i don't know..."               - counting crows

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x-to:         tbranham@richmond.edu

does anyone know if ig are going to be in new york during their tour?  and if
so, when? this information is really important.  if you don't want to post it
to the list, please email me separately at okimo4@aol.com

thanks guys!!

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ok.   enough with all this hatred.  i'm going to start up an old survey
that i did about 10 months ago.  seems everyone had fun with it, and since
school is back, we've got more newbies.

i'd like to get a survey of what state everyone is from.  now, please only
give one place.  if you're from missouri but in school in new york - - you
choose the place you consider to be from.  (ex.  i'm from new york, but i
live in tx...so i'm claiming texas)

last time, texas won this survey and i'd love the lone star state to
maintain their #1 position.  i can't remember who was a close
second...(md??  wa?? - - i don't remember) but texas won by, like, 2 votes.
so, all you texans - - make sure you place a vote for texas.

now, when we did this last time, a number of the folks who have been on the
list for a long time complained that we were doing this again.  well, the
list keeps changing and we're getting more and more new & exciting people.
plus, everyone seemed to enjoy it last time.  and i must admit, whatever
state was in second was really trying to push their state to #1 - - so
there was some competition there.  so, yes, i'm doing this again.  we need
some fun.

so e-mail me privately or post it - - either way (personally, i'd like to
see people post where they're from....you would be surprised how you can
make friends).   i'll keep a tally of who comes from what state & which
country for our non-north american buddies!

i'm placing the first vote for the largest state in the union - - texas!

keep 'em comin',
- jen hall

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hey everyone.  i am a rather new member of this wonderful list and am
enjoying every second of it... well, maybe not every second of it but
for the most part, it is nice.

my question is:
people keep making references to ig's going on tour this spring.  has
their tour schedule been released and i was just in the dark or is it
still just a mystery?  i would really appreciate any feedback.  if the
dates are released... "well, don't i feel sheepish?"

thanks everyone!

smiles and good tomorrows,

ang
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indigoers,
hey....it's the old survey again...i personally enjoy seeing where
everyone is from, especially the people overseas.  i'm from texas also,
jen, and i  hope that texas is #1 again.  waiting to see who's from where,
                                                        jamie

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okay, i've been lurking for a while, but sue made me a great boot, so i'll
do my part to try to cheer her up, or at least distract her because is it
just me, or are these new songs not very cheery?  i had to stop listening
to the first boot i got after two listens because i was getting soooo
depressed.  it was like that joke christmas album - all the depressing
songs, all the time, arranged in the most depressing order possible.

but anyway...

>1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
>think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
>weakest? (if there is one)

well, keeping in mind that i (we) have only heard preliminary versions, so
there might be new verses or something...

emily songs:
out of:  it's all right, winthrop, everything in it's own time, cara mia,
leeds, get out the map

favorites:  tie between winthrop and everything in
it's own time.   winthrop is really gentle and pretty - it rocks back
and forth like the waves.  everything in it's own time is
just great - it's beautiful, it's complicated, the music whirls around
when emily sings about things shifting.  i don't really understand most
of it yet but i like to listen to it.

special mention for cara mia which i think i like a lot, but then i think
maybe i just really want to know if she's talking about amy, or if
everyone emily knows is like that.

least favorite:  well, i'm sorry but i think that get out the map is
destined to be my least favorite emily song ever.  it will probably be
the big hit and get played all the time.  i hope the studio arrangement
has lots of different instruments to drown out the banjo.  sorry, that's
just me, but i already fast-forward over it.

amy songs:

okay, we got two types of songs here.  we've got the betazoid (i feel
pain, great pain) section (don't give that girl a gun, cut it out, chiapas
bound, hey kind friend) and we've got the white people suck section (shame
on you, scooter boys?)

i don't have any favorites yet.  musically i like shame on you but i hate
singing along to a chorus that says "shame on you".  it really surprises
me that she wrote that.   amy's songs always take me longer and what with
never listening to the tapes because they depress me and all... i guess
i'm still getting to know them.


>2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour? (like,
>give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from past
>albums will be played...)

lots of questions about what won't be played.  i guess all the new stuff
plus a few of emily's popular ones and amy's older songs.  from the new
stuff, i think they're going to use shame on you as a big instrumental
rock out song, so it won't come up first.

maybe it's all right will be near the beginning.  or get out the map.  i
guess they change the set-list all the time... sooner or later, i'm bound
to be right<g>.


>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
>what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
>know! :))

why is this the only question everyone's answering?  the only beer i've
ever bought a case of is made in connecticut and called blackwells.  i buy
beer based solely on the cuteness of the animal on the trendy microbrewery
label. so, assuming it's sufficiently p.c. and not made by exploited
connecticutters working in sweat-shop brewery conditions for sub-minimum
wage and that it's available in digipak bottles, that's what i'd give 'em.
although why they aren't buying me a beer is a mystery....


cheer up sue -  it's only life, after all (yeah)!

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hello everyone,

i've been lurking for a while and it has been fun. now it is time to come
out of the e-mail closet and give washington state a tally on the board.

>i'd like to get a survey of what state everyone is from. - jen hall

p.s. did anyone get a copy of shawn colvin on world cafe? please e-mail me
privately. thanks

sara
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i'm from good old massachusetts!

brandon

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hi there everyone...just wanted to join in the state poll going on.  mark me
down for new jersey.  =)

donna
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in a message dated 97-02-05 01:11:22 est, kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
(kirsten chevalier) writes:

<< you hardly have the right
to complain about being treated curtly by denizens of either place if you
make
no effort to mesh with the local traditions. >>
mesh with the local traditions? cmon kirsten, lighten up, this isn't a
civilization, it's a mailing list for godsakes! we are not going to turn into
lord of the flies unless we follow whatever rules you seem to think we're
supposed ot be following. i know it makes you feel really intelligent and
whatnot when you get to use big words like denizens, but could you please go
through these self-indulgent, pms induced rituals somewhere else? i'm sorry
if this is harsh ( oh no, did i break a rule?) but i feel like somethin's
gotta give. do you think aande would side with you...i'd ahve to go with
no....but hey that's just one 16 year old (gasp), middle class, caucasian,
aol users' ( bigger gasp) opinion. flame me all ya want...i'm ready and
waiting with the fire extinguisher...
julianna

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so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
subscribers can post?
kirsten
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so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and let them
know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?

i'm volunteering!

susan
i second the motion!
julie

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should they maybe get re-dubbed every x number of stops?
>
> tony
>
> p.s. are these tapes gonna hold up to being played 60 times and mailed all
> over the world??
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i haven't received any mail since yesterday afternoon :-(
i hope the problem ends soon...i'm going into withdrawals.

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well, i suppose i'll be in the losing bracket, but i'm proud to put in the
first vote for connecticut!!!! (new havenish area)
jasmine

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hi everyone!

well, i just thought i'd mention that there was igc on ellen's show last
night.  i know there are some ellen fans on this list so i figured i'd
mention it.  i figured any dual fans (ellen/ig) might know this already,
but... i'm posting it anyway jicawc (just in case anyone would care):

ellen was going to a rock 'n roll camp (a gift from her friends) and
spence said she could be anyone she wanted (pretend)... "melissa
etheridge, k.d. lang, indigo girls... tina turner."  to which ellen
replied excitedly, "oh, i can be tina turner?!"  funny.  it was kinda
cool just to hear them mentioned cause it's so rare.

am i the only one who thinks ellen should get ig to do an intro to her
show???????  that'd be waaaaay cool!!!  she's had some awesome people
lately (i.e., jann arden, uhhh... can't think of all the others... i'm
braindead).

well, that's my useless post for the next month or so.  enjoy!

peace and mardi gras,
tamara

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i'm excited about the boot loop in the works, but am wondering if anyone
else is having moral concerns about all the copying of music that will go
on. on one hand, it's essentially no different than making a ton of mixes,
which i suspect we all do anyway, but even mixes fall into that gray area of
dubbing music (mixes are certainly better than dubbing a friend an entire
cd, but it should still be a concern.)
the way i see it, what we'll essentially be doing is pirating a lot of
music, and the majority of it will probably be from independent or obscure
artists who need every sale possible. i usually rationalize this with the
notion that my friend who is getting a mix will be so in awe of the
performer that they'll run out and buy their music right away, but that
doesn't always happen.
i don't really have a solution to offer other than being sure not to dub a
ton of songs from one artist's cd on the tape, and i don't want to frown on
this loop--music is meant to be shared and i'm very excited to get all these
mixes! i just thought that i should raise this question.

:) abigail


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put one in for north carolina!
jessica

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not vote for jesse helms in the nc elections!

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>
> special mention for cara mia which i think i like a lot, but then i think
> maybe i just really want to know if she's talking about amy, or if
> everyone emily knows is like that.
>
personally, i think she is talking about me. given that, is it any surprise
that cara mia is one of my two favorites out of emily's new songs (the other
being it's alright, although i'm still not completely sure what it's about)? ;-)

of amy's songs, i have to say that shame on you is my favorite, despite it
being the most popular-and-likely-to-be-a-big-top40-hit-sounding song out of
all the new ones. it is infectiously happy and manages to sneak in some sly
political messages as well. you go, amy!

maybe it just shows i'm an emily person, but none of emily's new songs strike
me as being particularly weak; they all have their weak moments, but are always
overshadowed by far-greater redeeming qualities. when it comes to amy's, though,
i have to say that whenever i listen to a tape containing chiapas bound, i
have to restrain myself from fast-forwarding past it. this song just doesn't do
anything to me; it is too slow for my taste and doesn't seem to go anywhere.
like most of us, i didn't like cut it out at first, either, but i think it's
growing on me, like a fungus.

setlist for the next tour...i have nothing to say about that which hasn't been
set before, except that if they dare to perform "southland in the springtime" at
any concert which i attend, i will personally throw a squishy old tomato at the
stage. [*]

beer: as everyone knows by now, i'm too young to buy the stuff, so it's a non-
issue. how about all-natural, organically produced, sugar-and-artificial-
coloring-free root beer?
kirsten

[*] disclaimer: i'm kidding!!! this post is not intended to incite anyone to
fling rotting produce in the general direction of amy ray, emily saliers, or
anyone else. please don't flame me.

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chalk another up for massachusetts.

(originally from nj, but, baby, i was born to run .... ;-)  (sorry! -
couldn't resist - its genetic, really! :-)

joan :-)

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hmm, well i was gonna send this to jen privately but i haven't posted much
lately or written much personal email lately...  so i just had to say yes,
i am still alive, everyone.  and i am living in utah!  i know there are
other utahns out there on the list. yah, utah, yah!

--corinne
"oh my heck!"
ps kd my appearance at tv nite depends on emily...

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ok..here's what we've got so far:

- texas & washington 15% (6 people)

- massachusetts 10% (4 people)

- new york 8% (3 people)

- new jersey, north carolina, utah & wisconsin 5%  (2 people)

- alaska, arizona, florida, georgia, louisiana, maryland
- minnesota, montana, pennsylvania, virginia, australia
- & england 3% (1 person)

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   jchall@earthlink.net

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hey all

first i'd like to send a big warm indigo thank you to all that emailed me
with suggestions for my english course teaching.  very helpful. i'll let you
know if i manage to include some ig content into my lessons!

other stuff:

i just recently had a susan b. marine experience (tape trade).  does that
make me a member of the fc,  sue?

while in texas for xmas, i searched every store in college station looking
for 1200 c and found it in both cardboard and plastic.  i went for the
cardboard (the $5 difference in price was the factor, i'm sorry to say, i
wish it was the environment...)

i posted to the list in september "subscribe indigo-girls".  dumb newbie!
thanks to whoever it was that nicely "set me straight".

name game - i think mine is obvious (lorbrink - lori brinkman).

lastly, i'd like to make a plea (from myself and the other digest members)
to those of you with loonnnggg signatures to please limit them to a couple
of lines, so we don't have to scroll through them over and over.  wasn't
this to be in the faq?

oh yah, i'd buy emily a molson canadian and amy molson export.  nuff said!

bye!
lori


"when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on"
                                            rem

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hey there,
i am from the sunshine state, florida!
julianna

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put me down for washington state!

susan malmrose
sequim, wa

"and we can't run and we can't cheat
'cause baby when we meet what we're afraid of
we find out what we're made of"
     ~~everything but the girl

malmrose@olympus.net
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              "abigail" at feb 5, 97 7:32 pm

> the way i see it, what we'll essentially be doing is pirating a lot of
> music, and the majority of it will probably be from independent or obscure
> artists who need every sale possible. i usually rationalize this with the
> notion that my friend who is getting a mix will be so in awe of the
> performer that they'll run out and buy their music right away, but that
> doesn't always happen.
this is a good point, but think of it this way. if your friend hears a song by
performer x and falls in with love performer x, she will certainly run out and
buy
the entire cd. if she hears the song and is less than impressed by performer x,
she probably wouldn't have bought the cd in the first place, so it makes no
difference in the grand scheme of things that you copied the song for her. no
harm done either way.

personally, i'm planning to put only one song per artist on my tape, both to
avoid repetitiveness and to encourage people to buy the cds from whence they
came.

my $.02,
kirsten

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>thought i saw a while ago a post about summer highland falls on an ig boot.
> anyone w/info (or the boot), please re-post or e-mail me privately.  thanx,
>maria

as in the billy joel song?  after ig, bj is my favorite musician and summer
highland falls is one of his best songs.   if ig did a cover of it i'd love
to hear it!

                              -colleen

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hi everyone,

my timing is probably really bad, being that it is chinese new year and all,
but i just wanted to send out a general post to the list to let people on
this side of the pacific know that sarah, (hopefully) maren, holly, and i
are planning an asian list get-together. (talk about a "global community" :)
we're still in the planning stages, so anyone who'd like to join us is most
welcome. if you have any suggestions, ideas, a preferred country -- feel
free to e-mail me privately. since a lot of you are probably on vacation,
i'll be patient. :) this should be fun.

kung hey fat choi,

anna -----> founding member and self-appointed president, the pooh "vocal
minority" fan club (hi pooh! :)

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hello everyone. i was reading andrea's post about not wanting to "out"
herself in front of the little boys during her free period at school.  it's
prolly one of the hardest things a person could ever do, but in order to
live your life and feel free, you have to do it.  it takes up so much energy
hiding your true identity that when you finally do "out" yourself, you feel
the weight of the world off your shoulders.  it's so liberating.  you don't
have to have that guard up anymore, always ready with another excuse or lie
if someone questions you.  so today, here, i have something to say:

<ahem...> my name is joni...and i have an account on aol.

(applause)

thanks.  <grin>  i just wanted to put this aol stuff to rest.  ordinary,
normal people have accounts on aol...the reason i don't use it is 'cuz:  1.
it costs $$$ and i can use my work email account for free  2.  too much
traffic (busy, busy, busy).

anyway, i'm driving home today and all of a sudden it hits me...i forgot
about my aol account screen name!  so i'm here to share it with you.

i have a main name and a couple of alias'.  my main name is jonicee@aol.com
(joni-my first name, and cee-spelled my last initial).  i also go by
icraft96@aol.com.  this name is more descriptive of me.  (don't send any
mail to my aol account...i don't check it regularly....)

you see, like i said, days after posting about peoples screen name, i
remembered i have a unique one on aol.  my good friends made this up for me,
because i can't remember a f------ thing (icraft).  96 is just the year i
made it up.  icraft is like that disease crs: can't remember s---.  (i have
two buttons that say "i suffer from crs: can't remember s---."  i have two
of them because i thought it was funny so i bought it....and then the next
week, i saw it again, thought it was funny, forgot i had already bought it,
and bought it again.  see?)  the other alias i have is not for me but for my
sister debbie...she's a starving student so i let her use my aol
account...want to send her mail and say hello?  she's iluvsharks@aol.com,
'cuz she loves sharks, of course.

well, that's all i have to say.  whew!  i feel so much better!  have a good
nite!

joni-banoni-kins a.k.a.
jcyr@mit.edu a.k.a.
jonicee@aol.com a.k.a.
icraft96@aol.com

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hey, all:

found this on musi-cal's web site:

wed, apr  2, 1997
shawn colvin
  the paramount,seattle,wa

sun, jul 20, 1997 @ 7:00 p.m.
  ani difranco
summer nights at the pier,seattle,wa

start savin' yer money!

ann

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--- trant wrote:
if you
see a bent-up car, it's usaully a good idea to assume the driver is dangerous.
--- end of quoted material ---
but trant! its my butt that's bent up. not my car! so what does that say about
me?

tee hee

susanna from indiana

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on wed, 5 feb 1997, julianna minotty wrote:

> so, who else thinks that we should move to configuring this list so that only
> subscribers can post?
> kirsten
> --- end of quoted material ---
> so, who else thinks we should send obviously nice people a note and let them
> know how/what to post (and the faq) when they do this?
>
> i'm volunteering!
>
> susan
> i second the motion!
> julie

i third it!

unknowing fans sending mail to amy and emily are the least of our worries.
remember the bloke requesting "information on girls/women for internet
research" in late 1995?   remember the student in romania who sent the
"who the hell are the indigo girls?" messages to the list in late 1995?
not to mention the mmf garbage we had a while ago.   none of these could
have been sent to the list if it had been subscribers only.   definitely
support this proposal.

mat

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> ellen was going to a rock 'n roll camp (a gift from her friends) and
> spence said she could be anyone she wanted (pretend)... "melissa
> etheridge, k.d. lang, indigo girls... tina turner."  to which ellen
> replied excitedly, "oh, i can be tina turner?!"  funny.  it was kinda
> cool just to hear them mentioned cause it's so rare.

another twist to the ellen/lesbian thing...mentioning musicians that are
lesbians before a "dramatic" pause - then following up with tina turner.
is this another indication that ellen is coming out -- or are they still
just playing?  who knows...

- jen hall

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i hope i'm not the only vote for the beautiful state of montana!!

loving life,
jason

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   hiya!

    there are two indigo fans here.
  i, pj, am from jersey, and shawn with
whom i share this account is from pennsylvania.

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at 12:20 pm 2/5/97 -0600, sue kwan wrote:

>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
>what kind of beer would you order??

hey 'tender - see them two radically cool looking girls over there?  send
'em each a brewskie on me ;)  give the thoughtful looking blond a strawberry
wheat on draft and give the fiesty lookin' one a rogue hazelnut brown
nectar... tell 'em compliments of the chickenman @;-}

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
i       or i'll see you around. i don't know if these highs     l
g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
o

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> 1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
> think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
> weakest? (if there is one)

best:  don't give that girl a gun & cara mia  -  both of them give me
shivers every time i hear them!

weak:  far be it from me to criticize them!  when i write more of my
own music and get several record deals, then i will be able to say
what is weak.  for now, i love just about anything i have heard from
them.

> 2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour? (like,
> give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from past
> albums will be played...)

i really hope that if i do manage to make it to a concert on the next
tour that i don't go with an "agenda" of what i want to hear.  i have
not yet seen them live, but from what i've heard, even if they played
"mary had a little lamb" over and over for two and a half hours, it
would still be a great concert!  to sum up:  i have no idea what the
setlist will be.

> 3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
> what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
> know! :))

root beer, of course!  (it's the best kind, y'know.)

anna

"i don't know the key to sucess, but the key to failure
is trying to please everybody."  -bill cosby


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hi guys, it's me amy the organiser of the loop tapes. unfortunately, i
went to the doctor this morning about my back (i was rear ended last
week) and he sent me home for today (wednesday) and tommorrow. my mail
from the list goes to my work account, and since i'm not there, there's
not much i can do with the loop. please stand by until saturday, when i
will have read all my mail and had time to put it all together. i will
extend the deadline to friday for whoever wants to take part, and those
who want to take part, start making those tapes :) remember, only rule is
no amy and emily, at least 90 minutes long, and include a complete
artist/name of song list.

here's to not lying on your back for 48 hours...

amy

ps-please do not reply to this address, reply to amys@homecom.com

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well i am in washington...but gwendigo claims that my montana blood
shows through...so do i count for both places???

~jessi

"you can't put me in an asylum, i'm not ready for that kind of a
commitment"

m.a. kirschner


>-----original message-----
>from:  jason converse [smtp:jconvers@captain.sc.whecn.edu]
>sent:  wednesday, february 05, 1997 5:17 pm
>to:    indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject:       survey
>
>i hope i'm not the only vote for the beautiful state of montana!!
>
>loving life,
>jason
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ahem... i will answer the questions now.

<< >1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
>think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
>weakest? (if there is one)

emileee : i'd have to say "cara mia" for twenty five bob !!!
i liked it from the start...not only is it complex...i love
the things that she is wrestling with...the dichotomys and stuff..
(i'm big on that lately :)
weakest...i wasn't wild about 'out in the countree" that was
on the "red light" boot....it was a little screechy in the chorus.
i noticed it wasn't included in the demo tour...hmmm....

ameeeee: hey !!!!! (kind friend)....it's so different to me....it
dosn't seem to follow her usual musical patterns. it  got stuck in
my head for days aftrer i heard it once...and i liked it !!!!!
so that song  reminds me of a ferry boat's wake and vancouver island
rising from the sea and the blackberry patch in my back yard
where i was pickin' berries and singin' it overandoveranoover :)

weakest : at first i wasn't crazy about "cut it out" but when i saw it live
at bumbershoot it workd it's way into my soul..who knew ?
i like "chiapas bound" but it feels like it needs a bridge to me...
i couldn't get over the feeling that it was not a 'finished" song....
for instance...you know how she added that bridge to dgtgag ?
(takeyour first shot baby..yada yada yada....) to me that changed
it from being a good song to a great song !!!!!
it seems to me that that ray kid's songs are kind of living organisms
that grow all of the time...take tmf for instance !

  >2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour?
(like,
>give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from
past
>albums will be played...)

i wouldn't even venture to guess... uh... "closer to fine" ?
another lister made a coment that i thought was interesting...
she wished ig would radically re-work some of there old songs.
they tend to do that more with amy's stuff...but e's songs tend
to stay true to the way they were written...i've noticed while
learning e's songs on guitar that they are very hard to improvise to.

>3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
>what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
>know! :))  >>

naw..we wouldn't drink beer..we would drink lots of
really strong coffee and chain-smoke salem menthols !!!
okay if they had to have beer i would have a half rack of schmidt
on hand because hey you don't really taste it after the first one anyway !!

later man !
binky

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i have five spaces left over from a blue food bootleg offer that i made a
long time ago, some irresponsible folks signed up then didn't send me the
tapes.  i *hate* that.  ummm, so if you want a copy, i'm making a copy for
the first five people who respond to this e-mail--privately!!

yours,
chris ii

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i have no response to the first two questions, but...

> 3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
> what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
> know! :))
>

this one is easy.  double black stout by red hook. (made with espresso
here in seattle. mmmmmmmm good stuff, but don't drink it if you're trying
to play pool).

> hmmmmm...i guess that should do it for now...post back and share your thoughts!
>
> --sue (who has been feelin' blue)
>
> *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
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> "i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
>  i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
>  i said remember this as how it should be..."
>                                 -- amy ray
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"when i say you sucked my brain out, the english translation
is i am in love with you, and it is no fun."--ani
*****gwen keyt******
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colleen caffrey wrote:
> after ig, bj is my favorite musician and summer
> highland falls is one of his best songs.   if ig did a cover of it i'd love
> to hear it!
>
>                               -colleen


i vote for "james" as his best.  another song i'd love to hear ig cover.

scott
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subject:      a message for any british fans

i've seen two classified adverts in q magazine for the "map" album.
one is advertising it for 12.99 and the other for 13.99. seems like
a pretty good deal to me.....
"i sit two stories above the street, it's awful
quite here since love fell asleep..."

indigo girls, least complicated

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>i'm sorry to waste bandwidth again for those of you who aren't the gemini tape
branch.

for the woman who is the tape branch, i'm just wondering if you are still making
some of the tapes or if mine has gotten lost in the mail.  i got a message a few
weeks ago saying that you had sent out the tapes so i'm fearful that mine is
floating around the postal system.  please let me know if you've sent the tape- i
sent the tape to you back in december.  thanks for your help.

suz

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on thu, 6 feb 1997, tamara wrote:

>am i the only one who thinks ellen should get ig to do an intro to her
>show???????  that'd be waaaaay cool!!!  she's had some awesome people
>lately (i.e., jann arden, uhhh... can't think of all the others... i'm
>braindead).

no you most certainly are not!!!!!!   i thought this after the show that
texas opened - ig would be perfect.  i wonder what we can do to get this to
happen?  especially with a new album coming out, ig could use the exposure.
maybe someone can locate a strategically placed email address that we
could all bombard with mail asap :-) "tell all your friends to write" kind
of thing.  this would be very cool!!!!

betsy

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sorry, ya'll...

k.r. onions - i got your message and tried to send you some info but
i kept getting it back with a message saying that mail to your
address was undeliverable.  if you would still like the info, e-me
privately and we can try it again.
thanks,
kim

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okay. initially, hometown meant boston, mass. until my parents got the
brilliant idea to move. okay, fine, they didn't really have a choice, but
i was a very bitter little seven year old at that point. so, we moved to
philadelphia. (well, downingtown, pa, to be more specific) and then, i
decided to go away to college, so here i am, in the city  of yins and iron
city beer...lovely pittsburgh, pa. and that, ladies and gentlemen, is my
life story in a nutshell...

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<< 1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
>think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
>weakest? (if there is one)>>

i *love* it's alright!  but i have a little question about it...do you
think  it will be called "it's alright" or "it's all right"?  b/c
technically, "alright" is not a word in the english language.  i know this
b/c i had quoted it in my sig spelled as "alright," & my mom, who is
extrememly intelligent, told me that "alright" is not a word.  so, of
course i looked it up in my dictionary, being the rebellious person i am, &
sure enough, "alright" wasn't there.  now, i've usually seen it spelled
"alright" on the list, but emily, being the brilliant person she is, surely
will spell it correctly.  right?  well, it doesn't much matter, b/c i still
love the song, but i was just wondering what people thought about it. :)

of the amy songs, i can't really pick a favorite.  i like dgtgag, soy, &
hkf, but none of them stands out to me as the best.

and i don't like beer that much, so when i hang out w/ a&e, we're going to
drink hard stuff!  like shots of rumple minze or something! :)

oh, & i'm living in pa now, but i'm from nj, so i'm casting my vote for nj.

and did i mention that i think marianne is the most creative person i know?
better late than never, right? ;)

andi

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i got this email from a friend who...got it from a friend who...

subject: ellen coming out episode taped
>from someone i don't know.  so if you're asking, i wasn't in l.a.


my boyfriend and i attended the taping of ellen tonight.  the show, in which
ellen attends a rock 'n' roll fantasy camp, featured guest musicians david
crosby, bonnie raitt, sheryl crow, and aaron neville.

at the end of the show, ellen performs a song with them, which she wrote,
called "i'm scared of being afraid."  they filmed two versions of the song.
the first was an ordinary, straight version; in the second, ellen sang, "so
here's what i have to say... and by the way, i'm gay!  it's okay!"  she sang
"i'm gay!  i'm gay!" over and over as the audience cheered and screamed... it
was an amazing moment, though it's not clear which version will air.
however, a coming-out episode was taped tonight!

abc is planning to pull ellen off the air in march and april to test a new
show with arsenio hall.  the network claims they will consider letting ellen
morgan come out, but if ellen is taken off the air for these two months it
will cripple our chances.  now is the time to write letters!  everyone, write
to michael eisner at disney, new abc entertainment president jamie tarses,
and to ellen degeneres herself to express our support.  this is a critical
point in deciding the fate of ellen, and we must speak out!  you can be sure
the religious right will be doing the same.

(contact: jamie tarses, abc television network, 2040 avenue of the stars,
los angeles, ca 90067, fax: 310.557.7679, e-mail: abcaudr@ccabc.com)


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cincinnati, ohio and northern kentucky checking in...

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cincinnati college of pharmacy, actor, director, ibm fanatic, technical
writer, dog (jrt) lover, single guy, & much, much more! try my home page
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jen hall wrote:
>
> is this another indication that ellen is coming out -- or are they
> still just playing?  who knows...

or maybe it's an indication that tina turner is coming out...  ;d

kathy

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>am i the only one who thinks ellen should get ig to do an intro to her
>show???????  that'd be waaaaay cool!!!  she's had some awesome people
>lately (i.e., jann arden, uhhh... can't think of all the others... i'm
>braindead).
>
and
>ig would be perfect.  i wonder what we can do to get this to
>happen?  especially with a new album coming out, ig could use the exposure.

you know, ellen always seems to wear shirts w/ local new orleans schools on
them (i went to loyola there, so these things get noticed!).  and, since
emily went to tulane for a while, and igs play there every so often, maybe
the n.o. school spirit/ig thing could be combined on the show.  maybe??

and i agree the exposure would be great, although i think more people know
about ig than i realize...  the other day i was in rock-ola (an
applebee's-type local restaurant), and right over our table was a huge
framed poster with the 1200 c. cover.

enjoying the discussions today for the first time in a while,
jessica

jessica

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hey guys...
i from texas also and hope to see it win again...
cn

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on thu, 6 feb 1997, scott wm eastman wrote:

> colleen caffrey wrote:
> > after ig, bj is my favorite musician and summer
> > highland falls is one of his best songs.   if ig did a cover of it i'd love
> > to hear it!
> >
> >                               -colleen
>
>
> i vote for "james" as his best.  another song i'd love to hear ig cover.


it's up there too.  throw in angry young man and miami 2017 and that's
why turnstiles is my favorite bj album!

                   -colleen

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no longer true...abc *was* going to pull ellen altogether.  now,
ellen will move to tuesday nights at 8:30 while arsenio's show airs.

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put down one for maryland (though i know that north carolina is still the
best!  maryland still has its good points)

nick

where am i?

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i'm from texas!

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              97 4:30 pm

just imagine a&e covering "capatin jack" *shivers* that would be
absolutely incredible!  also "scenes from an italian restaurant"

                brenda and eddie had had it already by the summer of '75,

                                        chris

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sorry folks, didn't mean to send that one to the whole list.  just
because i'm a big billy joel fan doesn't mean i should go trying to turn
this place into the ig/bj list. :)

                   -colleen

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i'm casting my vote for massachusetts.....(even though i grew up in
maine...)

~jess

(who still misses maine sometimes....)

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no! don't write abc anymore about how they're taking ellen off, because
they relented already. :) she's just moved to tuesday. as for the episode
referred to in that message, the "coming-out" version of the song was
just an improv made by a very angry ms. degeneres soon after being told
they were putting her on haitus (which now they are not doing). it was
not scripted or discussed or anything, but she felt like singing that so
she did. they confiscated the tape. (disney did, i think.) anyway, don't
go writing to abc saying don't take ellen off. if anything, write saying
thanks for not taking ellen off, now may she please come out and play?

                andrea crain *** internet: acrain@knox.edu
              *** knox college, galesburg, illinois, usa ***
       *** world wide web: http://members.tripod.com/~andreamer ***

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hmm...i was thinking (yeah, i know, i should be more careful) about
this poll thingy we're doing about where people on the list are
from. i was wondering what the results would indicate.  i have
decided that they must indicate that there are a lot of people in a
certain state who enjoy the music of the indigo girls, and also have
a lot of time on their hands to be reading an endless number of
posts about the aforementioned music group (or other related and not
so related topics) every day.

:)

anna

"i don't know the key to sucess, but the key to failure
is trying to please everybody."  -bill cosby


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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i'll add my info to the survey

rose
san jose/santa clara ca

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*warning -- this post contains no flames - only loving observations and suggestions*

i agree with cathy.  if amy or emily (or someone associated with russell
carter, daemon, or any performers who happen to be friends 'o indigo), happened
to read a days worth of posts during the midst of one of these hateful list
squabbles, i think they would shake their heads and think "have these people
not understood a ****ing thing we've sung about all these years?  i know i
would personally be ashamed and embarrassed if a or e or someone connected with
them read some of the argumentative posts that seemed to have increased over
the last few months.  that's the main reason i unsubscribed for nearly two months
back in the fall.  when i returned, there were all these newbies and everyone
was feeling all warm and fuzzy again and all was right in ig listland.  but
i guess it doesn't take long for someone to get annoyed because someone didn't
read the faqs or said something someone else felt was inappropriate or silly
for list viewing.  someone said the other day that when people blindly post to
the list, thinking that they are writing directly to em or am, they think it
is kind of cute.  so do i.  sure, it's a little tiring to hear the same questions
being asked over and over, or to read messages from people who think they're
writing am and em and ask what they've been into over the last few years or
whatever, but i realize - and i would think that everyone would realize -
that new people are joining this list everyday.  these are people who have
been fans for varying amounts of time, who feel varying levels of devotion
to am and em and their music, and who generally want to belong to and bond
with a group of kindred spirits.  there are *always* going to be people
who ask the questions we've heard answered 15 times, or who (perhaps because
of the length) haven't yet read the faqs or who read them some time ago and
forgot that the answer might be contained therein, but instead decided to
post a message to the list asking for the answer.  maybe it's a little tiring,
but it really doesn't bother me.  i really wish we could all lighten up a bit
and stop acting like list monitors or something.  let's love one another right
now, dammit!<g>
when we list "veterans" (for want of a better term) bitch and gripe
everytime we read a post that we could swear we've read just a month
ago, or hear something we think really shouldn't have been posted, we not only
look childish and possessive -- we also look pretty jaded.  i think some of
the fresh-faced newbie posts keep this list thriving.  they make me smile :)
let's all lighten up and have some fun.  isn't that the point - to share
ig info, find out about shows,etc. and generally enjoy the list?  i think many
people lose sight of the fact that this is not a business, a government, or an
international cause...this is a mailing list.  this list is very dear to many people's
hearts, but i think sometimes we take it a little more seriously than we should.

sending peaceful, warm, happy vibes to *everyone* on this list...newbies
and veterans alike :)

joan :-d

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beer:
in the highly unlikely event that i were to have occassion to buy the
girls a beer, i would ask "emily, amy, what kind of beer would you
like?"
mostly because almost all i drink is guinness (hmmmm good!) and i have
to meet a person of the female gender who shares my affinity.

state:
i'm from california--but don't send me any hte literature, please!

tolerance:
random thought regarding the aol controversy as it has played out
the last few days:

how easy to talk tolerance;
how difficult to achieve

notes to a&e:

dear emily and amy
i sure do love your music--hope you read this!
see you in san diego!

it seems to me that, even if a&e can't (or don't) read messages of
this nature, the pure karmic power of these kind of messages,
delivered over whatever format, can't help but be a positive influence
in their lives, right?

related query:
did any of you ever write (like with a pen and a piece of paper!)
a "fan" letter to your favorite musician?  corrolary:  did you
really expect them to read it?

back to lurker mode for a few weeks...
--
there's a world of trouble/trying to take its turn
i can hear it shaking underground/and half a dozen lessons
i might never learn/not until them troubles come around
            --gillian welch

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hello!

i know i'm really really late in asking this, but.....
a loooong time ago, someone posted their opinion on the best emily and amy quotes of '96 (at least, i think this is what happened).  one of the emily quotes was on the idea of 'how can i be happy for you when.......' etc., etc.  i'm not sure how to word what i mean, but i hope someone out there recognizes what i'm desperately trying to get at.  i loved this quote, but my computer seems to have a defect - it's called a delete key.  what a dangerous tool!  :)
thanks in advance to anyone that can help me with this - it pretty much sums up my whole life right now, and would mean a lot if i could get the whole quote.
fare thee well,
beth
(ophelia@ici.net)

>>>>>>
"i said remember this as how it should be"  --  a. ray

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hello!

i know i'm really really late in asking this, but.....
a loooong time ago, someone posted their opinion on the best emily and amy quotes of '96 (at least, i think this is what happened).  one of the emily quotes was on the idea of 'how can i be happy for you when i know it will hurt me.'  i'm not sure how to word what i mean, but i hope someone out there recognizes what i'm desperately trying to get at.  i loved this quote, but my computer seems to have a defect - it's called a delete key.  what a dangerous tool for impatient people like me!  :)
thanks in advance to anyone that can help me with this - it pretty much sums up my whole life right now, and would mean a lot if i could get the whole quote.
fare thee well,
beth
(ophelia@ici.net)

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"remember this as how it should be"  --  a. ray

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spence on ellen just mentioned that ellen (who is at a
rock and roll fantasy camp) could be anyone that she wants to
be -- melissa etheridge, k.d. lang or the indigo girls.
yes, the indigo girls...
ellen and the ig, my two favorites.
the connection just makes me smile.
alycia

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nor seek the calm that others give;
for thou, thyself, alone must stand
not held upright by other's hand.

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from:         "georgy v. cohen" <sprocket@scorequest.com>
subject:      hear ye hear ye

from this post forth there shall be no mention of aolers in a negative
tone. discussion will be limited to that which is ig-y or overall
spiffy. go back to kindergarten: respect each other, keep your hands to
your selves, and if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at
all.
from this post forth, we will all be conducive to positive
reinforcement. no more 'you suck'ings or 'aolers are lame'ings.
any such posts from this post forth shall be deemed unspiffy and sent to
the national board for spifftabular evaulation for critical
denouncement.
what are we here for? to talk about ig and neat little digressions
thereof. if one is as anal as to pick on someone who thinks this is
really ig, then why would one spam 100's of people's mailboxes with nigc
of a negative nature? double standards?
from this post forth, no more evil posts. thank you.
back into the shadows.
i don't like wading through 50 msgs of crap per day..

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tonight was the ellen's fantasy rock 'n' roll camp show.
in the closing scene, as the credits were rolling  -- another woman
was standing and singing next to ellen.
any idea who this was?  (not bonnie raitt)
thanks
alycia

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for those folks behind est where 'ellen' hasn't shown yet, indigo girls are
mentioned.

thought ya'd like to watch,
cathy

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hi y'all!

just finished watching "ellen" and wanted to share some igc:

(this is to the best of my recollection...please don't flame me  :o) ellen
went to a music camp - it's like baseball camp - where music wannabes go to
jam in a band and just "be" in the music world for a while.  ellen wasn't
sure that she really belonged at the camp, as she really had no musical
talent.  spence, ellen's cousin, was trying to convince ellen that she had
every right to be in music camp.  he told her something like all she had to
do was to emulate someone..."....you could be like melissa etheridge, k.d.
lang, the indigo girls,...."

of course, this was another tease for ellen's "coming out."

just wanted to share!  have a great nite!
joni :o)

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    yiipie-kay-yeah (not sure how to spell that). i'm from texas, too.

yee-haw,
margot

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sorry for bw y'all but i need to pick up any stragglers who might be
interested in attending a weekend ig jam in galveston march 7-9.  i gave up
on waiting for the release date!

please email me privately asap if you are interested so i can make final
arrangements
        tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net

thanks,
tony

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
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dear susan
i now know why you have a fan club! the only pleasant mails i've received
lately have been either generated by you or audrey beth, or the one about
beer i guess, which kind of sucks because, well, i'm 16 and i can't buy
anyone beer. but if i could, i'd give aande an anchor steam, and susan would
get a cranberry lambic or a bud ice, either one........
if i could give kirsten a beer...well......
thank you for the happy mail!
julianna

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well, i'm from san antonio. and that's in ..........texas!!!!
also, on tonight's episode of ellen, ellen went to a rock-n-roll fantasy
camp.  spence told her (and i'm paraphrasing here) it's fantasy, you can be
anyone you want: melissa etheridge, k.d. lang, the indigo girls.   :)  it
was great to hear the girls mentioned on prime-time tv.

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at 09:01 pm 2/5/97 -0600, alycia wrote:
>tonight was the ellen's fantasy rock 'n' roll camp show.
>in the closing scene, as the credits were rolling  -- another woman
>was standing and singing next to ellen.
>any idea who this was?  (not bonnie raitt)
>thanks
>alycia

i was wondering the same thing.  it wasn't joely fisher, was it?  i thought
at first it was melissa e. 'cuz ellen and melissa are friends (in fact, when
ellen's show first aired - and it was called 'these friends of mine' but
they later changed it  - melissa sang the opening song.  however since they
changed the name, the cast and the whole direction of the show, they killed
the song too...boo hoo!).

anyway, i want to know too, so whoever knows, can you post to the list?

btw-i just got a post i made wednesday at 10pm est - it is now 6:50pm on
thursday...i don't know if y'all just saw this too, but it was about ellen
last nite and at 6:50pm  tonite, it's old news.  sorry!  (what'sup wit dat?)

have a good one!
joni :o)

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hi folks,

just a note to ask you folks who're responding to the
location survey to please, please take it to private
email.  the list faq outlines the protocol which should
be followed for situations such as this - ie. send
responses by private email in order to keep the list
free of extraneous clutter.  there are a lot of people
out there, myself included, who don't really need all
this extra mail in their boxes.

while i'm talking about the list faq - quite a few people
have mentioned lately that it seems too long.  we've been
looking at making it shorter but it just seems that all
the information in there really is necessary.  so we've
compromised by cutting it down as much as we could.  it's
still enormously long but we'll be looking at other ways
of making it shorter in the future.  we'll see.

thanks everyone,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"and in between the moon and you, the angels get a better view
of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
well i walk in the air, between the rain,
through myself and back again.
where?  i don't know..."               - counting crows

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   the mystery person at the end of ellen was... sheryl crow. ta-daaa!

later,
margot

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anybody happen to be at the amnesty international concert in san francisco,
june  4 1986? u2, sting, peter gabriel, jackson browne, etc. e-mail me
privately!

thanks


         susan malmrose                  malmrose@olympus.net
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              'cause baby when we meet what we're afraid of
                    we find out what we're made of"
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hi again everyone,

just to let y'all know that the latest versions of
both the indigo girls faq (v3.2) and the indigo girls
mailing list faq (v1.1) are now available.  you can
get both these documents either from the www at
http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig or by anonymous ftp
at ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/cmb/ig.  if you can't
retrieve them by either of the above message, email
me and i'll send them to you by email.

cheers,
sherlyn
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of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
well i walk in the air, between the rain,
through myself and back again.
where?  i don't know..."               - counting crows

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hi all,

        did i miss another boot? damn, i hate it when i do that! will
someone fill me in on the soc boot? i was really looking forward to it
when it was being made. btw, i'm an aries, if that's any help to anyone.

                                                thanks!
                                                tuesday's child


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>related query:
>did any of you ever write (like with a pen and a piece of paper!)
>a "fan" letter to your favorite musician?  corrolary:  did you
>really expect them to read it?
>

as a young teenager, i wrote a fan letter to u2. it was horribly emotional
and personal, and their fan club pres. or whoever responded. they did so in
a very polite and positive way. i should be embarrassed, but that's what
teenagers are all about--being horribly emotional, right? of course at the
time i really did hope that somehow they would receive the letter. if you
want to hear about what happened the time i met u2, and a person i was with
tried to give them a gift she'd made, e-mail me personally.

my sister-in-law wrote a letter to everything but th girl a couple years
ago, asking about tour dates, and she got a postcard written personally by
tracy thorn, so don't think it doesn't happen.

my brother wrote a letter to a british singer/poet called joolz, and she
responded to him in person. he actually sent her a money order requesting a
certain record, but she wasn't sure what he wanted so wrote him back to find
out.


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my gf belongs to the gladd list and from what they say the disney/ellen
people are not showing the episode where ellen is comming out.  and that
she is not comming out at all.

too bad.  disney has pushed the envelope before... why won't they do it
now?

just a thought.
elaine r.

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on thu, 6 feb 1997, david perham wrote:

> did any of you ever write (like with a pen and a piece of paper!)
> a "fan" letter to your favorite musician?  corrolary:  did you
> really expect them to read it?

yes and yes.  one time i even got a response...  :)

anna

"i don't know the key to sucess, but the key to failure
is trying to please everybody."  -bill cosby


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at 11:07 am 2/6/97 est, kirsten chevalier wrote:
when it comes to amy's, though, i have to say that whenever i listen to a
tape containing chiapas bound, i have to restrain myself from
fast-forwarding past it. this song just doesn't do anything to me; it is too
slow for my taste and doesn't seem to go anywhere.

        wow!!!!!  what a difference in personal taste.  i have just the
opposite reaction when i hear chiapas bound :o  if i'm in the other room i
have to run into where it is playing when it comes on and i often rewind it
several times *after* that, to hear it again! @:-}
        yes, it is slow, but sooooo beautiful with amy's husky voice
crooning away..... i put it in the same class as you left it up to me, one
of my *very* favorites :))

        i do have some confessin' to do though --  when i filled out sherlyn
koos questionaire the other day *all* of my overall favorite ig songs were
amy songs.  not that i don't like emily songs.  in fact, *really truly/
cross my heart/hope to die* there is not a *single* ig song that i do not
like.  i guess that's why i checked "fanatic" too.

        thanks sherlyn for helping me realize how biased towards amy i
really am :oo
i'm looking forward to the questionairre results.

thanx,
tony

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
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g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
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>
>
> doesn't stopping non sub's from preventing to the list prevent them from
> becoming members, after all i';m willing to bet that once the 'offender'
> reads the polite mail sent explaining who we are they will likely
> subscribe and become part of the family,m this is after all what we are
> about isnt it.
>
ok, you have a point, and since nobody seems to be too enthusiastic about my
idea (to say the least ;-)), i have another proposal. whenever someone posts
to the talk.bizarre newsgroup for the first time, they are automatically sent a
copy of the
newsgroup's faq. i don't know if many other newsgroups do this, but it has
always struck me as a good idea. so, what if the listserv software were
configured to respond to every post from non-subscribers and/or first-time
posters with a copy of the faq and the instructions for subscribing (the latter
for non-subscribers only, of course)? it doesn't seem like it would be too
difficult for the list admin to set this up, and it would keep people who
post without understanding what the list is from laboring on in ignorance, while
still allowing non-subscribers to post in case amy or emily decided to post
from her own e-mail address (someone suggested that this might happen sometime,
and while i doubt it, you do never know...) any comments?

kirsten, preparing to redirect any flamage straight to /dev/null


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hello!
this is my first post to the entire list, even though i have been taking
advantage of your extremely generous boot offers.  thanks again everyone!
anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and say "hi" from chilly upstate new
york.
i've been lurking for about a month (?) and hope to get to know you all
better...it seems like a fun and...um...spirited list and it's great to know
that there are so many fellow ig fans out there.  i guess what i'm trying to
say is:
nice to meet you!  :-)
now that i've made my first post hopefully i'll put my 2 cents in here and
there.
take care everyone!
:) jessica

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> 3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,

oh, this is easy. i'd get them whatever kind of beer _they_ wanted. ;)
that would make more sense than a conversation like, say, the following:
me: "yo, amy, em, buy ya a beer?"
e: "sure."
a: "yeah, ok."
me: "what would you like?"
a: "oh, we usually drink blah blah."
me: "well, that's too bad cuz i'm gonna buy you a yeungling."
e: "but we'd really rather have a blah blah."
me: "hm. that's a cryin' shame. here's your yeungling."

no. that wouldn't do at all. ;)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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it was one of those gay-hints on ellen. her friends took her to a rock
and roll fantasy camp, and were telling her how great it would be.
spence said, "you can be anyone you want ... melissa etheridge, kd lang,
indigo girls..."

heh...

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i am from illinois!

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okay i've been really dissapointed in the attitude of this list
lately... why is it that so many of us feel that this is an elitist
group that needs some sort of hazing ritual to become a part of?  at one
point or another everyone on this list simply wrote and became a
member... it doesnt' matter when... it's not about tenure... we've all
come to this common "place" because we share something.... a love of
something... that should be respected... no one here is "above" anyone
else... we're sisters and brothers let's have respect for one
another.... we have all screwed up at one point or another and should
try to recall that time before we start to get nasty.
        i remember sitting at the newport folk festival this year and i noticed
that the closer it got to indigo time the meaner everyone got... people
became territorial and just plain nasty... i was so dissapointed because
i love the indigo girls because of their music, lyrics, outward
personalites, and their fans... i always had so much respect for their
fans (i still do don't get me wrong) but when i saw people getting
possesive about "their girls" it made me really angry... if you love
something... let it go... let others experience it and it will come back
to you ten fold....
        just another gal from massachusetts who would give the girls a good
ole' heineken
                        mary

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hi!  i made a really cool indigo girls screen saver.  is anyone interested in
this?  please let me know.  thanks!

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   i'm claim this great an mighty state of texas to be mine as well.  =}

--sunchips
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in da project yard in jersey
and little georgie would make the fire lite
as stolen cars pass through the night.....everything is gonna be
allright.."--bob marley

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subject:      reserved seating????

i recently saw ig on their "warm-up" tour here in austin and there was
reserved seating for the first 11 rows.(maybe 7) this is the third show
i've seen but the first time that has happened. has anyone else
experienced reserved seating. maybe i was lucky to not have it twice. i
don't know but i wasd really disappointed to have waited for 5 hours for
11th row seats.
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back when i was a teenager, i wrote to abba...and their manager, stig
anderson, replied with a nice letter.  his signature what done in pen (blue
ink), but as far as i know, his secretary could have written it.

but this is the closest i've come to receiving a letter from a musical
group.  even though abba didn't reply, i was satisfied.

so, you never know what you're going to get when you write your favorite
band.

unfortunately, on this list...newbies have been chastised, by many, for not
reading the damn faq before posting - thus, not being welcomed aboard
warmly.  so, to all newbies...welcome.

- jen hall

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my guess is those 11 eleven rows were reserved for people on a
guestlist--either radio and other music industry hot-shots, or the press, or
whatever.

i've been to shows where the front rows were reserved, and not all of them
were full! lame-o.


>i recently saw ig on their "warm-up" tour here in austin and there was
>reserved seating for the first 11 rows.(maybe 7) this is the third show
>i've seen but the first time that has happened. has anyone else
>experienced reserved seating. maybe i was lucky to not have it twice. i
>don't know but i wasd really disappointed to have waited for 5 hours for
>11th row seats.
>--sunchips
>"i remember when we used to rock,
>in da project yard in jersey
>and little georgie would make the fire lite
>as stolen cars pass through the night.....everything is gonna be
>allright.."--bob marley
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> 3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,

sammy adams, of course.  boston's best.  (at least that's what the company says).  i'd probably be in shock just to have amy and emily talking to me i'd just stare and point, and not be able to say anything - never mind buy them a beer!  i think that buying them a drink would be the last thing on my mind!  of course, since this can be anything i can dream up, we'd probably be sitting together (just the 3 of us) singing and laughing, drinking sam adams.  emily would be on a soft, broken in strawberry colored bean bag, amy would be on a fuzzy rug that is worn in just right, and i'd be wrapped up in a quilt somebody's mother made by hand in between the two of them.  since this is still a dream, i'd be able to play the guitar so emily would let me take one of her solos.  after we talked and played and laughed 'til the sun came up, the i'd call joni and we'd meet somewhere and all 4 of us would go out for coffee something since it would be morning.  sorry to anyone else that's from boston - i only know of joni (remember that boston driver thing?), but you're invited to come too, if you want.


fare thee well,
beth

btw, thanks to everyone who answered my question about the quote by emily.  it was from cara mia.  oh, and sorry to have posted it twice.  i thought i screwed up the first time when i didn't see it come back to me, but it turned out the list was down.  it came back to me about 5 minutes after i sent it out the 2nd time, so sorry for the waste of bw!

>>>>>>>
"i said remember this as how it should be."

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hello all,

i had to add to this because i was so excited a few years ago when i
wrote kristen hall.  about a year later i actually got a response:)!

also, i wrote michelle penn (local at-the-time atlanta artist) and she
wrote me a very nice letter back too.  anyone know what ever happened to
her?

amy

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hi everyone-

all this talk of fan mail reminds me . . . .  i used  to work in a library
and in the general reference section we had this book of addresses of
famous people.  so one day this guy i worked with took it home and
programmed his word processor to print out 200 letters addressed to his
200 favorite celebrities, asking for an autographed picture.  he got over
180 back!  they were from the wierdest people--queen elizabeth, newt,
bill, dick van dyke (or is he dead?), andy griffith, annie lennox, he
tried dr. seuss, but the guy died like three days before.  anyway, so if
anyone's bored out of their minds and wants to play a fun game, this can
be done at your local library for a cost of about 25 dollars!

on a related note, this other guy who worked there, one day, wrote a
fan letter to hugh downs (the news morning guy) telling him how much he
liked his work in four weddings and a funeral (just to be funny and see
what hugh would do).  he got this really funny letter back, along with a
signed portrait of hugh downs!

just think of it!!  your taxes are paying these people to work!

chris ii

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sorry, the blue food offer has been closed.

yours,
chris ii

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i'm a hearty believer in sending cheesy fan mail to your fave musicians.
well, okay, i haven't actually done that in like 4 years, but still... i
wrote to kh when i was 13 and she fricking called me on the phone (and
offered to get me into the 21+ concerts. talk about cool...)! also i
wrote to ellis paul and asked him about the boston folk scene when i was
looking at colleges and he wrote back a long letter.
  but i'm definitely embarrassed about the godawful letters i wrote to ig
way back when. :) they would just send me their autographs everytime i
would send them something. heheh i think they just take the return address
from the letters and send a newsletter back to ya. who knows? (and that is
a comforting thought).
  had to share...
       julie

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on thu, 6 feb 1997, jen hall wrote:

> back when i was a teenager, i wrote to abba...and their manager, stig
> anderson, replied with a nice letter.  his signature what done in pen (blue
> ink), but as far as i know, his secretary could have written it.
>
> but this is the closest i've come to receiving a letter from a musical
> group.  even though abba didn't reply, i was satisfied.
>
> so, you never know what you're going to get when you write your favorite
> band.
>
> unfortunately, on this list...newbies have been chastised, by many, for not
> reading the damn faq before posting - thus, not being welcomed aboard
> warmly.  so, to all newbies...welcome.
>
>  - jen hall
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first, i beg your apologies. this must be like my fourth post today so i'm
*sure* i must be breaking some rule or something, ;)  but...

at 09:43 pm 2/6/97 -0800, mary at robert bazemore's address wrote:
>        i remember sitting at the newport folk festival this year and i noticed
>that the closer it got to indigo time the meaner everyone got... people
>became territorial and just plain nasty... i was so dissapointed because
>i love the indigo girls because of their music, lyrics, outward
>personalites, and their fans... i always had so much respect for their
>fans (i still do don't get me wrong) but when i saw people getting
>possesive about "their girls" it made me really angry...

hi mary!

i'm sorry about your bad experience at newport, but it made me want to share
my experience at the austin, tx show last august.
        i've never met a more loving and civilized group of people
*anywhere* in public than those kind souls at that show in austin.  i had
4th row tickets <g> and had to get refreshments a time or two and the fold
up chairs were perched mighty close together.  so when i came back down the
aisle i stepped on a few peoples feet and spilled beer on at least one
person.  (believe it or not ;o) i have done the same thing before at
sporting events and the like and at the minimum i usually get an extremely
dirty look, if not profanity and/or a threat :o
        however, the people i accidently discomforted at the austin show all
smiled at me and were extremely humble and gracious.  it was such a loving
atmosphere!  just like it should be at an ig show..... now, i don't know if
it was just b/c the show was in texas or not, but...
        ...i wanna go home with the armadillo, good country music from
amarillo and abilene (hi amber! :), the *friendliest* people and the
*prettiest* women you've ever seen....  ya-hoooo!!

and as amy would say~~ when all the beautiful ladies walk right by at town
park, i never know what to say.... :o

warm fuzzies to all y'all (i'm so glad the list is mended again <sigh> :)

t for texas tony

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
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d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
i       or i'll see you around. i don't know if these highs     l
g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
o

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on wed, 5 feb 1997, sue kwan wrote:

> 1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
> think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
> weakest? (if there is one)

        my vote goes to get out the map and shame on you. although it's
alright is definitely in the running.

> 2.) what do you think the setlist will be like for the upcoming tour? (like,
> give your idea of what order the songs will be played...what songs from past
> albums will be played...)

        couldn't even begin to guess.

> 3.)  if you had the opportunity to buy amy and emily a beer of your choice,
> what kind of beer would you order??  (weird question, but hey...i wanna
> know! :))

        samuel smith's nut brown ale


                                                tuesday's child

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did anyone catch ellen tonight ....

they went to one of those rock & roll dream camps and spence tells ellen "you
can be anyone - melissa etheridge, kd lang, indigo girls"  :)

yipee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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sorry if this is a duplicate message, but i sent it like two hours ago and
it hasn't come through on the list yet.  spookey!  so anyway:

i have five spaces left over from a blue food bootleg offer that i made a
long time ago, some irresponsible folks signed up then didn't send me the
tapes.  i *hate* that.  ummm, so if you want a copy, i'm making a copy for
the first five people who respond to this e-mail--privately!!

yours,
chris ii

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jen,
i'm from  massachusetts so chalk one up for the bay state ....
only 3 more days until the boston ig list party and i have to miss it
(sob!!!)


mellie


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hey folks,
   i'm in for the state survey.  tally one for new york.  i'm from long
island and going to school in ithaca.  since all we're counting is
states, it's ny either way.

   the other thing, was there ever a consesus formed on whether or not we
were gonna do the song of the week? (i think that much was decided: that
it should be week, not day.) i think it was gonna get going but there
didn't seem to be an agreed upon starting point.  i myself was partial to
sarting from the beginning of the commercial releases (but doing sf before
ig) and didn't care much for the suggestion that we start with a
non-commercial release mostly cause i don't have any (pity me, it's very
sad i know.)  whaddaya think?

           -colleen

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on wed, 5 feb 1997, jen hall wrote:

> i'd like to get a survey of what state everyone is from.  now, please only
> give one place.  if you're from missouri but in school in new york - - you
> choose the place you consider to be from.  (ex.  i'm from new york, but i
> live in tx...so i'm claiming texas)

> so e-mail me privately or post it - - either way (personally, i'd like to
> see people post where they're from....you would be surprised how you can
> make friends).   i'll keep a tally of who comes from what state & which
> country for our non-north american buddies!

well, i'm going to post my answer publicly, sorry to those that don't
want to read this, because i'd like to know who else is in my region. i'm
from albany ny. if you are in ny, ma or vt drop me a private note, okay?
it's kinda fun getting to know your neighbors.

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now let me guess, was there a mention of ig on ellen?  i don't think that
anyone has said that so far!!=)=)  ok, well, i just thought it was kinda
funny that everyone posted about it.  indeed it is very cool, like ow my
gawd kinda cool, but i think we got the point about the entire ellen, camp
thing, with talk of me, ig, tt, and whoever else it was!!! =)
this is all in good fun everyone...hope everyone had a great day, and has a
great weekend, tgif!!!!!  just two more classes, i can do it!!!
peace
tucker...who wishes she was chiapas bound!


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because you'd cry your eyes out
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its on the newport fest this year (thanks indigopony..say hi to
the trollop for me)..the crowd is buzzin and she and amy are tryin to
talk and em yells real loud." ya know what ya' all sound like ???and does
a real loud aaaaiiiieeeeeeeeee...cracks me up every time

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when i first got a message from this list and saw nigc, i thought...
"well, damn, what a racist bunch!" :)    well, this morning, as i was
walking to class, i had an epiphany!  yes, now i know what it stands for.
:)  i'm on another list (sarah mclachlan) and we use bst for bullshit
thread...so the "nigc" thing was rather amusing to me. :)


with stained glass smiles,

xochitl, feeling a little bitter after listening to ani difranco for too
long.

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hi everyone, thought i would break into the ellen moment/beer/where are
you from to share this really cool thing:
today i got my first guitar ever...a little late cause i'm 21 or so...but
i brought it home and talked to it and fed it and cared for it and then i
learned to play land of canaan!!!!
except not as loud as the girls or as well of course.  but anyway they
inspired me to actually buy the darn thing, and kind of in tribute i
decided to learn how to play one of theirs first.
warm fuzzy for me--had to share it with people who understand.

isn't that what this list is for????? just wondering.
everyone have a wonderful day!
peace,
beth

"i'm lonely tonight (g), i'm missing you now (c), wanting your love and
you're giving it out (g)..." -ig :)

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subject:      shawn colvin (nigc)

big thank you to everyone who sent me info on shawn colvin.  it was greatly
apreciated.  (i  think that this list has really nice folks on it, despite
the ocassional flame)  unfortunately my mother didn't apreciate it quite so
much as i did, so i doubt i can go to the concert anyway(school
night/city/public transportation).  here's to tryin.

west of bishes
shana (jak)

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> looking over my brain storming list and i see names like jim
> infantino, barbara kessler, jon svetkey, peter mulvey, the nields,
> eddie from ohio, etc. that are predominately regional.  i'l love to
> hear the stuff coming out of the pnw, mid-atlantic, and atlanta areas

yes yes yes thats why i'm in the loop ..

jules

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hey y'all,

i'm also interested in seeing where listers are from.  it'd be nice to know that
i'm not the only ig fan stuck out here in the middle of the pacific ocean...i'm
from maui by the way .  i'll make a deal with you...if anyone can figure out a
way to get a & e to play in my neck of the woods, you can all crash at my place
and we'll go see the concert together..... deal? <g>

karen

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over here in the uk once i fianlly tracked down a copy of 1200c it seemed
the onlyh one in the country i was at first excited about the cardboard
packaging. alas it had taken a beeting during shipping and the first
thing i did was to buy 2 jewel cases to protect my investment in ( belive
me ig over here ain't cheap ) i now have a) two well looked after 1200c
discs and b) a reaonably weathered cardcase on my shelf ( it certianly
looks better than if i had continued to use it ) my advice if it comes in
card go buy a few jewelcases for the price it's worth it !!!

jules

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        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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hey everybody,

with all the talk about the new songs on map and what's been
mentioned about the songs on the demo tour set list, it seems that
some songs that the girls had been doing have been forgotten. i
wasn't able to catch the latest tour and only have the las cruces
tape (thanks to susan!), but does anyone know what ever happened to
"problem child"? i really like what i heard in the hidden track on
1200c. (that is an amy song isn't it?)
also,
i seem to recall in some interview, could have been watershed, when
emily was asked about writing songs while touring and she mentioned
amy had written a "really good" song called "volunteers".

does anyone have any info? could these be the new "nashville" and
only appear 3 albums later? just wonderin'....

derek

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howdy ya'll,
chalk up another vote for tejas - as if my isp didn't give that away.  i
did, however, spend 10 years living in the also fine state of north
carolina which will always have a piece of my heart.

now for the igc - in response to the question about which of the new songs
i like the most, i'm with tony (chickenman) on chiapas bound.  i do find
myself stopping what i'm doing to listen to it.  i think its partly because
i just like the somg and partly because i spent part of the last year in
mexico so it brings back a bunch of good memories.  i really like the new
stuff that i have heard so far though.
lisa

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the list/digest is so messed up that i'm getting messages about t.v.
shows i've already missed and boot offers closing before the offer message
comes through, so apologies if by the time this gets on there have been
900 other messages to the same effect.

however, there is a new video clip up on the site of perpetual annoyance (*)
it's the promised video from the photo shoot.  needless to say, the text
hasn't been updated to indicate that it's there.

please someone else download it and tell me if you think amy is saying
"funky gig" or "fucking gig" or something else entirely... (why don't they
close caption these things for the amy-interpretation impaired?)

* other wise know as:
http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epiccenter/docs/artistupdate.qry?artistid=83

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hey all,

anyone catch ellen last night? it was the rock n' roll dream camp episode.
who was that blond haired woman singing with ellen, david crosby, bonnie
raitt, and aaron neville during the closing credits? someone at the bar
said, it was melissa etheridge, then someone said it was carly simon, but
i'm still not convinced. igc...after the show, one of the bartenders
commented, "would have been cool if it was the indigo girls and melissa
etheridge."

living in the moment,
sharon

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hey kind friends~~

        got no free boots this time, just applause and accolades from your
comrades if you can successfully answer the following 10 questions.  best
answers, winners, and *correct* responses will be posted in about a week.
only *one round* though this time.... no purchase necessary.
        please reply privately to tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net.
        cheers and good luck y'all :)

#1      why does a little cat cross the highway?
        a) to get to the other side
        b) to get to the median
        c) to get away from big, bad dogs
        d) to get away from amy & emily
        e) because it is scared and confused

        (p.s. btw mediancat, i expect you to get this one right ;)

#2      where is that "smelly little stinky club" ig's played at prior to
meeting the          chickenman?  and what is it called?
        a) fitzgerald's - houston
        b) white dot - chapel hill
        c) white rabbit - san antonio
        d) metro - chicago
        e) amy's basement - atlanta

#3      where was a woman beat up by strangers?  danger, danger, danger.....
        a) houston
        b) atlanta
        c) gainesville
        d) toronto
        e) new york

#4      how much money did amy plan on spending at the chickenman's flea market?
        a) she didn't plan on buying anything
        b) $1,000
        c) whatever it took to buy all of his junk and conversation
        d) $10
        e) it didn't matter because she had emily's visa card & em was
asleep in the            car <heh, heh>

#5      the chickenman was wise and dirty from the weather.  what kind of
weather was          it?
        a) tornados
        b) floods
        c) lightning
        d) storms
        e) all of the above

#6      name at least two songs on which amy sings and de de vogt plays
mandolin?
        <hint: one is a new mongrels song>

#7      who said, "don't give up the ghost, the show is not over"?
        a) sara lee
        b) emily
        c) russell carter
        d) amy
        e) gerard mchugh

#8      who said, "when i first met ig's, they didn't have much style"?
        a) jerry marotta
        b) sara lee
        c) jane scarpantoni
        d) scarlet rivera
        e) russell carter

#9      in bob dylan's "tangled up in blue" who are "an illusion to me now"?

#10     what did amy say after the chickenman imparted some enlightenment on
her?
        a) "oh my god, i feel better"
        b) "i am so middle class"
        c) "i can't relate"
        d) "i gotta relate"
        e) "i'm rude"

bonus question (nigc):
        what moves on fours, then twos, then threes?

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
n                                                               i
d       hey kind friend...i'll meet you in new orleans          r
i       or i'll see you around. i don't know if these highs     l
g       will be coming down. it's ok friend, i'm ok friend      s
o

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speaking of on the road to austin, does anyone want to tape it for me?  ;)

                                                laura

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i was going through my room and in this box  found a bunch of old ig
posts that i had printed for some reason or another: because they were
cool, or my at-the-time-girlfriend wrote them, so i decided to go
through and get all my old buddy's addys transferred to a separate sheet
of paper so i could throw away the papers and work on ceasing to be as
much of a pack rat...well, except for the cool posts....these posts were
from late 95 to early 96....i was surprised to find that some new
acquaintances of mine were on the list way back then...(shout out to
indigojo and binky!!! binky: i still got "when i was a squirrel" do you
have any recollection of that?)
then i went into to one of those trances where your brain goes into
flashback mode and replays everything that happened from then until
now...it inspired me to write a short book on my life the past couple of
years.....
anyway, folks, i know this is an almost pointless letter,  i just wanted
to remind everyone that we've all been through a lot together via
e-mail, and i think that maybe we could all see past our differences of
opinion and flame letters to get to the real reason of this mailing
list: to trade info , tapes, latest concerts dates of ig and to _make
friends_.....i think it's awesome that the list has lasted as long as it
has....
enough of my jabber-yacking...
everyone have a great day...
-sal

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ok, i'm a little behind on the digests, but here's my 2 dinars (so do i rock
sal? :])

my dad gave me the nickmane "inky" when i was a little kid; heck he still calls
me that!  i guess it comes from some song "inka-dinka-doo" or something like
that that he used to sing to me when i was a baby.  awwwww :)

i also go by suesteiny@aol.com, so don't be too hard on the aol folks.  remember"sometimes you have to be patient with things that annoy you".  and if you know
who said that, you rock too!!!

have a good week everybody!

sue

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subject:      guitar picks (nigc)

just wanted to write a big thank you to everyone who responded to my original
"shattering picks" post.  for any of new guitar players out there who might
be interested, many ig guitar players suggested the use of:

1. dunlop tortex medium picks (the same that ig uses, or so i've been told)
2. dunlop .50mm, .60mm or .72mm (?) - the added plus of these picks is they
    have upraised printing on them, which provides a nice grip.

and thumb picks are available (pick is attached to a thumb loop) - gibson
and dunlop are pretty popular among listers.


tx, denise

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awhile back i took a survey to get the average ages of list members..got
about 70 responses and it turns out the average age is between 27 and
32(roughly)
well..i made the big mistake of writing to kathy miller and accusing her
of being the old lady..i was wrong..shes only semi- old..sorry again
dear,,
but there was a respondant who said she was 48..now i know you're out
there some where..please e-mail me privately ( or else i'm just gonna
believe that kathys' fibbin'..that happens when ya get old..) please
please please cause at 43 i don't want to believe i'm the oldest hag out
there
okay?
btw didanyone catch the reference to the indigo girls  on ellen last
night???

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subject:      survey

hi. i'm not so new, i just haven't posted in a while (even thought about
unsubscribing) because of all the silliness that's been on the list.  and
so very nigc! but oh well.
i'm from tennessee! no, not nashville.  but pretty close.  anyone else?
if you live anywhere near knoxville as i do, there's a great show on
saturday nights from 10-2 a.m. that plays ig, dar, bunches of acoustic
stuff like that.  it's on 94z and it's called simmer down.  a friend of
mine invented it and it is the best show.
so anyway, i put my vote in for tennessee.  i know we won't beat texas
(who can?) but it's a great place to live, work and listen to the girls.
love y'all,
beth

"...that emptiness brings fullness, and loss of love brings wholeness to
us all..."  ig

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subject:      "amy ray school of guitar..." (sigc)

okay, this is a spinoff from my "shattering picks" post.  i received some
responses from ig listers who had broken strings, but were surprised i had
broken my pick.  and one lister observed that:

  playing joking with damage either you or your guitar when played
  properly.

too true! :)

and actually, this seems particularily true of most amy songs- in fact, i began
to wonder, if amy ray were to form a school of guitar playing, what sort of
lesssons would there be?  perhaps...

  101  aerobics & open chords
  201  advanced gymnastics & barre chords
  301  guitar string repair, maintenance (aka "land of canaan")
  401  interpretive dance & acoustic rock
  :

well, you get the picture ;)  sooo, any ideas?...

denise

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on thu, 6 feb 1997, elizabeth c birkholz wrote:

<snip>
> so anyway, i put my vote in for tennessee.  i know we won't beat texas
> (who can?) but it's a great place to live, work and listen to the girls.
  ^^^^^^^^^^
you better believe it, baby ;)

800 miles to el paso,
jenn. brown

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i know one class can be,

        80-c  face contortion(after breaking a string)

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subject:      (nigc) gushy fan letters

ok, this is a pretty embarrassing admission, but hey, i figured the list
could use some comic relief right now :)  the only fan letter i can recall
writing and actually *mailing* was a letter to shaun cassidy when i was in
6th grade.  never even got a response.  of course, it could have had something
to do with what i wrote...  ya know how when you're 10 or 12 years old and
you're flipped out over a teen idol and all the boys at school insist that
said teen idol is queer?  well, in this lengthy letter of gushing admiration for
mr. cassidy, i remember writing that everyone was telling me that he was gay,
and i asked him if he was.  can you all believe that?  i think about
some of the kinds of things i wrote in that letter and want to cringe. <g>

joan :o)

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if you're not indigopony, sorry to waste your bandwidth.

if you are indigopony, i'm writing to check on the status of the tape tree you were
looking to set up back in december.  i sent you a tape to get a copy of the master
and i'm waiting to see if this thing is going to happen.  the tree was for a
compilation of pre-recording songs ( i think).  please let me know the status of the
project.  thanks!

suz

suzanne_dunne@baylor.edu

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hey all...
to whomever was asking whether we thought amy was saying "funky gig",
"f*****g gig", or what in that clip at that pit of technological despair
dearly known to us as the epic site... sounds to me like she says
"f****** gig".
carrie
(who can't really recommend anyone download that clip 'cause it takes
forever, and it's an extremely short clip)

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well, i am from michigan, unfortunately, because i am freezing my heinie
off right now.  also, it seems that there are very few places for the ig
to play here, but i live in grand rapids, and i hope this time around they
will play in the new van andel arena (van andel is the guy that owns
amway, that wonderful pyramid corporation).

anyway, gotta go!
love aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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mark me down from louisiana!!!

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subject:      loop ethics

i think this is going to work more as a promotion for lessor known artist than
as a determent.  i mean, they are going to be heard by many people who normally
would not get the chance to hear them.  also, as long as we are not selling the
copies, copying the tapes is leagal.  even charging a copying fee, which i feel
is certanly unethical, is technically not illeagal imo.  but, i'm not a lawyer.
anyway, i don't feel this is in any way unethical, even though it may be of
dubious leagal standing.

trant

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let me say a quick hello to all my fellow ig fans out there and put in a
vote for new york!!! i live in new york city, go to school in upstate ny and
saw the ig live for the first time in new york city (roseland august 14, 1996).

go new york!!!

dave

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please tell me i'm not the only ig fan in california!
(getting very worried)
carrie

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>
> but anyway...
>
> >1.)  for those who have heard most of the new "map" tunes, which do you
> >think is the strongest/best song from there from amy and emily?  the
> >weakest? (if there is one)
>

i finally have a partial response to this...i think my fave so far is the
last version of don't give that girl a gun (at least the last i
have...hte) when amy has incorporated the "take the first shot baby it'll
be real clean" bridge into the chorus in the middle.  i really loved
listening to the evolution of this song from april (i think) to
october-ish and how it turned out, and wondering how it will be on the
album.  i get the feeling that emily really loves this song too.

my next fave is chiapas bound, not only because it's a cool song but
because i looooovvveee that low d amy hits singing "in some southern
town"--chills.

and how many are with me in thinking that get out the map has the
potential to become the next ig anthem?  (like ctf and galileo)  it's a
lot of fun to belt out.....

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abigail wrote:
>
> i'm excited about the boot loop in the works, but am wondering if anyone
> else is having moral concerns about all the copying of music that will go
> on.

well, i to am getting excited about this loop stuff.
to tell the truth i don't feel all that bad about
the copying; the way i see it is that if somebody gets
a tape and really loves an artist on it than they may go
out and buy their cd. if they don't  like the song than
they probably won't pirate the material.
i think that the majority of us still have the artists
best intrests in mind and will try to support them as often
as possible. i mean, i don't intend to go and try to make a
living of the music on the loop tapes, i just want to find
new artists to listen to.

sara

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subject:      who i am and where i'm from.

sprocket comes from toad the wet sprocket, another one of my fave
groups. i own all of their albums :p.. 2 other handles i use elsewhere
are psyche and ennui <french for 'problems' and 'boredom'>.
i used indigo once, but that was a dummy account :)

i was born in boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <needed to do that>
and hopefully will be going up there for college this fall <bu bu bu>...
but i live in florida, the bane of all existence. i hate it here.
"southland in the springtime"? the only seasons here are tourist and
hurricane.. :)

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i live in atlanta.

forever searching for the truth,

kristen
~~~~~~
kristen r. adkins                        "there's a crowd of people
324403 georgia tech station      harbored in each person
atlanta ga 30332                         there are so many roles
gt4403e@prism.gatech.edu         that we play."
(404)206-4628                            -"light of some kind"- ani difranco

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hey folks :)
i received this message via my web site..i don't have tuesday's
children..but if anyone can help her out, i'm sure she'd appreciate it.


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date: thu, 06 feb 1997 16:58:34 -0500               reply to
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i am in desperate need of a copy of the tuesday's children tape for
valentines day. is there any way possible i can get this? i live in
cartersville, georgia, and i'll pay extra for express mail if nessicary.
thanks in advance, lana:) holland

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hey everyone!

i'm working on my loop tape right now.  it is soooooo great.  everyone
should get a copy of it.  if i win the lotto, i may just send everyone
one, cause i love it so much.  but, my point of this story, is are there
any pnw listees out there doing the loop tape who are putting ladies
don't drum on there tapes??  cause if not, i want to, but gasp!  i don't
have any of their stuff. so you have some, could you email me, so we
could figure something out, or if you are putting it on, email me too.
thaaaaanks :)

(subtle hint: wa listees-put in your name for being from wa!!!!)

love
sundara


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hey kids!

i just finished my looptape this morning, and i'm *too* excited about
sending it out and getting others in the mail.  yippeee!

sorry.  just had to share that.

scott
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let me be the first to claim wisconsin.  home of the world champion
green bay packers.


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stop! stop! stop! i'm begging you!
i can wade through all the aol muck & chastising of innocent fans, but i
can't handle reading about any more mouth-watering beers  while i'm sitting
here in japan with about two basic beer choices & the occassional heineken,
guiness, or standard american commercial beers.  y'all are killin me!
so here's my next idea....how 'bout sending your favorite beer along with
your loop tape?  this should stir up plenty of "damn that's gonna get
expensive" comments.  oh, and if  i were to buy a & e a beer, it'd be a
good german hefe-weizen...hearty, earthy, and leaves me feeling good - just
like the "girls".  i'm dyin' here (said like elaine from seinfeld) -maren

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in a message dated 97-02-05 17:56:03 est, scott wrote:

<< typical aol customer.  is there anyway we can make the list unavailable
to aol people?
  >>
even in jest, this is a smug and unworthy comment.  it's not nice to put thy
dirt in mother nature's face. :) think beautiful and help those you consider
worthy of it.  you might find you help yourself.

jude :)

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on thu, 6 feb 1997 deng@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>
>   101  aerobics & open chords
>   201  advanced gymnastics & barre chords
>   301  guitar string repair, maintenance (aka "land of canaan")
>   401  interpretive dance & acoustic rock
>   :
>
> well, you get the picture ;)  sooo, any ideas?...
>
> denise

hey all,

denise, your idea was so funny that i actually saved the message.  i have
a class to add.  how about:

        220  public speaking for live performance

i totally love amy's work and respect her as a person, but sometimes when
i see her live, i just want her to take a public speaking class.  she's so
shy at the mic when she's just speaking and she's full of "um's" too.

this coming from a former public speaking instructor who doesn't want to
be taken seriously enough to be flamed about this,

carolyn

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subject:      hi

just a quick note to introduce myself...

33 male in stamford, ct..

ig are my main influence, although i lean towards emily's work more..ive only
seen them 3x..twice at radio city in ny where i was happily introduced to
kristen hall's "be careful.." cd.....

although probably not very impressive, i am the proud owner of a green vinyl
swamp( lucky buy), and two bootleg cds..one from univ of wisconsin..and one
from "live at uptown"..

if anyone cares..the songs that have made the biggest emotional impact in my
life have been watershed, left me a fool, love's recovery, blood & fire
(uptown), history of us.....forget it.i cant do it.....i would be better off
naming songs that are of least significance......

i play guitar and songwrite, with a desire to merely touch the beauty and
excellence that ig convey..a lofty goal i know.... i play with two vocalists
and we cover, crazy game, prince, closer, and blood.....

havent had an ig dream in a while.....bummer...

its great to be here

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hello folks and greetings from the land of the rising sun.  just my three
hundred yen (since the dollar is just kicking it's arse right now)...

if i could buy them a beer of any kind, i would cast a vote for shiner
bock.  being that i cannot get my favorite brew here, and i would never
offer them what the sad excuse for beer is available here, that would be
the one and only.  of course, if i were in a situation to talk with amy and
emily, i might swallow my tongue or pass out or something else stupid like
that.  (well, maybe not...i had the opportunity to meet joan armatrading
face to face at the backyard in austin this past summer, and my two
30-something friends flipped out, while i just said hello.  who knows??)

and by the way, i am so psyched about the loop tape, that i finished mine
today!  fun, fun...hope amy is feeling better so we can get this thing
started (and cause i want everyone to be healthy)...eagerly awaiting...

have a groovy weekend, all.

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                                sara mccutchen
                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
                        nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken 662
                                     japan
                                 sbeth@gol.com

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                 some dive into the sea, some toil upon the stone.
                         to live is to fly, low and high,
           so, shake the dust off of your wings, sleep out of your eye."
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hey guys...i just had a thought.  i wrote a while back about "daring
angels" and got info. and now have a cd on the way.  so, if anyone out
there knows of the bands "22 brides" or "odd girl out" i would be so happy
to have any info.  have some tapes with tunage, and would dig more.  maybe
some will show up on the loop-ti-loops!?!?!
thanks in advance, and sorry for wasting bw.

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                             10-22-502 ikeda-cho
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                                 sbeth@gol.com

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              but it's cute and i like this thread

well, i've felt like a bump on a log not posting lately, so i too will
contribute to the name game!  =)  wishmonstr comes from wish monster, who is
a little green toy from the dollar store.  the summer i went to camp when i
was twelve, my division head (yey, sub-seniors!) had this little, cute, green
monster with a yellow tummy and a green and a red eye.  at night, durring
flash light time, she would come into the different cabins with him.  she
would turn off the lights, and we'd all silently make a wish as hard as we
could.  she would squeeze his stomach and his eyes would blink on and off,
back and forth, until only one eye remained lit.  if it was green: yes!  wish
came true!  if it was red: no!  we have to try again because someone wasn't
wishing hard enough!   my friend (no longer my division head, i moved thru
the ranks) still had her wish monster, and we'd all get nostalgic every now
and then when she'd bring the wm over tp senior line . . . then this year,
she tried to figure out how he worked, and decapitated him for good.  no more
wishes . . . *sigh*  i hope his legacy will live on with my name . . .

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today, beth said:

> after we talked and played and laughed 'til the sun came up, the i'd call
>joni >and we'd meet somewhere and all 4 of us would go out for coffee
>something since >it would be morning.  sorry to anyone else that's from
>boston - i only know of >joni (remember that boston driver thing?), but
>you're invited to come too, if >you want.

thank you, thank you, thank you for thinking of me!  i would very much like
to take all 4 of us to au bon pain and we'd have a nice cup of coffee (your
choice of flavor - mine is a hot mocha blast with whipped cream...and i'd
make use of the whipped cream, i tell ya!) and a bagel or muffin.  if it
was warm (summer), we'd go 'down by the river' and or maybe to the beach
'winthrop' and watch the sunrise.  (if we went to the beach in winthrop,
we'd fight over who'd get to console emily since it would remind her of
someone who's 'never coming back.')
mmmmmm...sound nice to you beth?

one more day to the biggest, baddest ig boston bash eva!

(sundara honey....you owe me a vip email...   ;o)

joni  :o)

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hi ig listers!
i haven't posted in who the heck knows how long, seems like since the
whole sherman alexie-atlanta braves controversy (no, let's not go into in
again), but i have been reading digests at a furious rate!  very exciting.
anyone on the dar list who also gets digests will probably agree with me
that it's nice when only one list is going at this rate.  when both lists
(and the ecojustice list, and the iowa city queers list, and....) are
going so fast, it sucks to get my email because i get stressed out and
delete digests without reading.
i wouldn't buy amy or emily a beer, i can't stand beer, and i don't drink
other alcoholic substances because i'm diabetic (and i don't care for
them anyway), but i'd perhaps buy them some soda/pop (co'cola for those of
you in birmingham).  i put both of those words in for this reason:
i grew up in kansas city, missouri where we said pop.  then, i went to
school at the university of missouri where a lot of snotty st.louis people
went (and some really nice stl people too, don't think i have a grudge
against everyone from the city of the arch which isn't really the gateway
to the west since it wasn't the last stop on the oregon trail like
westport in kc was, but not to pick arguments...) and they would look at
me with expressions of horror and disgust when i said "pop." direct quote
from about ten of them: "pop?  you call your dad pop, popcorn pops, a
baseball can pop up, but this is soda."  {you unwashed yokel} was the
underlying message.  after being scathed by enough brats in my residence
hall, i readjusted and now cannot call it "pop."  then i moved to iowa for
graduate school...and i said "soda," and people look at me like i'm nuts.
"do you mean pop?" is what i get all of the time, after a short processing
pause.  jeez!!!  it's like the great "sack vs. bag" controversy.   the
trials of attempting not to call everything by name brands...

moving on (igc coming up, watch out!):  binkster, you rock my world!!!  i
received a wonderful set of "essential" boots in the mail the other day.
my friend laurie did too, and she listened to all of them.  quote from
laurie: "suzi, i received the motherlode of all indigo girls boots last
night!  i have been hearing about these boots on the internet for years
and i have printed out the lyrics to some of them.  it's so cool to hear
them!"  this was slightly exaggerated with exclamation points because
laurie is so calm, it's very difficult to tell when she is excited, but i
_know_ she was becuase she listened to all of them (all six!) when she got
them!  yay.  i am more reserved, and besides have a lot of new tapes i'm
tryuing to get through, and (confession) am more obsessed with dar than
with the ig right now--but i have listened to that one from 1981 with
house at pooh corner, oh my gosh, _so_ much fun!!  many of my friends ask
me, "how much did you pay?" and i say, "just the tapes and postage!" and
they are stunned.  the list can be so awesome (when people aren't being
rude idiots).  thank you binkarooni!!  you are wonderful.

um.  need to go teach rhetoric now.  hey, didja hear about "ellen" the
other night...just kidding!  anyone watch voyager and wonder why they
never present the option of mates being anything except opposite gender?
just a thought....b'lanna and janeway...tom and harry...etc.

i was going to say something about how much fun i had on aol over break at
my mom's house, but i don't think i should beat this idea into the ground.
in any case, i already knew "netiquette" from the extremely anal darlist.
i hope this list never has someone like the slug on there who feels it's
his duty to post "rules" all of the time.  it makes for an unpleasant
atmosphere occasionally (right susan, harry...etc?).  oh yeah, since i
can't ask on that list for fear of being flamed and then kicked off or
something, does anyone on this list have any dar williams boots which are
particularly good?

ack!!  must go to class.  students probably waiting...
i know, this was a long post.  but i'm a grad student!  this is so much
easier than writing my master's thesis!

love,
suzi

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hey y'all...

i was wondering if there were any athens ga listers out there...i know
there are some atlanta ones but it'd be nice if i had someone in athens (or
heck, if someone in atlanta is willing sometimes) to go see people like
michelle malone, big fish ensemble, etc., with.

i dragged my so to the high hat last night for michelle malone (he liked
her stuff and just came home bitching about his clothes smelling like
smoke)...and she was *amazing*! i knew about half of the songs she did, she
did "a la famille", "blue suede", "medicated magdalene", "all i can give
you is me", "shadow on the wall", "teen lament", and the rest i didn't
know...some of them new and some of them probably old because i don't have
all of her stuff. :)

i was hoping she'd do "butter biscuit" and tried to request it, but she
ended up doing "tanya tucker" (a very funny song). i got there late and
wasn't sitting right next to the stage.

anyway, that's it.

shanna

                                  shanna freeman
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       making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel. -bart

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song writing 101:  falling on one's head for inspiration, without doing too
much damage.  (this one's for binky!  :)

anna


"i don't know the key to sucess, but the key to failure
is trying to please everybody."  -bill cosby


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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subject:      nothing to hide... want a copy? =)

hello, all! =)
      i don't have any exciting trivia questions about ig that you all
wouldn't know, so it's time for some random music trivia... the first five
people who a) want a copy of my "nothing to hide" ig boot cd, and b) answer
these questions either correctly or creatively, get a free copy.  no trades
or blanks.  somebody else on the list inspired me, so i thought i'd share
this one. =)  ready?  go! =)

1) name the really, really, really good band that has two commercially
available cd's that is named after a brand of candy. =)
2) name at least three michelle malone songs with "bad words" in them. =)
3) who wrote the musical "les miserables"?
4) name either three good canadian bands or three good ska bands.
5) who are your top eleven favourite musicians? =)

that's all! =)  g' night! =)  peace, love, and butter biscuits, sarah

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>on thu, 6 feb 1997 deng@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>>
>>   101  aerobics & open chords
>>   201  advanced gymnastics & barre chords
>>   301  guitar string repair, maintenance (aka "land of canaan")
>>   401  interpretive dance & acoustic rock
>>   :
>>
>> well, you get the picture ;)  sooo, any ideas?...
>>
>> denise
>
>

here's another          210 soc's delineated and defined
                        308 advanced chickenman trivia
                        309 philosophy: daemons and beyond
                        310 intense performances aka blood & fire

my .02
tony

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i think the uk release date for "map" will be around the 17th to the
21st of march
"i sit two stories above the street, it's awful
quite here since love fell asleep..."

indigo girls, least complicated

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its not from newport..its from the norfolk boot this year..right after
wood song...sorry fer lyin folks.....
and even tho i love emily ( i may have mentioned that on the list once or
twice...maybe not) i gotta tell you.
cut it out is really growin on me big time ( thanks to the chickenman for
mentionin' it and also for turning me on big time it hey kind friend
..ever since he started posting some of the lyrics at the end of his
posts..thanks man( oh no..does this mean i'm turning into an amy
person???or is it possible that what i've beensaying all along is
true..can't have one of 'em with out the other...i love the indigo girls.
later
pooh

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carrie <shafer@kingsnet.com> wrote:

>please tell me i'm not the only ig fan in california!
>(getting very worried)
>carrie

you're not. : )  here's one more...jill

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subject:      boot offer for folk music trivia

i was planning to do this anyway, but when i read sarah's post, i was inspired
to make things a little more interesting. so, i'll copy anything on the list
below (no more than 3 tapes per person, please, and you provide the blanks and
postage) for the first 15 people to send me correct and/or humorous answers to
the following questions. i would prefer to copy for people who are just
starting their collections (a la the newbie boot offer), but since i can't
verify this, you're on your honor. :-)

of course, please reply via private email and not to the list (and while i'm
at it, may i remind people once more not to post answers to jen's where-are-
you-from survey to the list either (since the last two or three reminders not
to do this seemed to have no effect)?). have fun!

the questions:
1. which singer-songwriter wrote a song which uses firewood as a metaphor for
life?
2. who, according to the person who is the answer to #1, is "the mike tyson
of folk music"?
3. name three places to hear live folk music in the boston area.
4. who said, "folk music is meant to be endured, not enjoyed."?
5. from which album's liner notes is the quotation "if you learn nothing else
from my songs, learn this: never jump down onto a railroad track to save the
life of a wig. *never*." taken (name the artist, too)?
6. according to amy ray, when does she say that the indigo girls are a rock
band and when does she say that they are a folk group?

hint: two of the questions share the same answer.

the list:
ig:
===
complicated girls (glastonbury fest 6.25.95, nyc 12.5.94, phila 12.3.94) (1)
chapel hill 11.13.87 (x)
winnipeg 5.95        (1)
blood and fire (u. oregon, 8.2.93)    (1)
these songs (revised), compilation    (2)
live @ the red light cafe, 2.25.96    (2)
atlanta pride, 6.30.96                (2)
decatur square, 5.19.87               (x)
color me grey, amy solo 1982          (x)
blue food, 1986                       (x)
nothing to hide, radio city music hall 6.28.94   (1)
indigo originals, compilation                    (2)
new orleans jazz fest, 5.2 and 5.4.96            (2)
denver (paramount theatre?) 10.22.90             (x)
purple parrot, 1986                              (x)
newport folk fest, 8.96                          (2)
no curfews, compilation                          (x)
shades of indigo, 1990                           (x)
philadelphia, 8.15.96                            (2)
tuesday's children, 1981 (x)
the white dot, 3.19.87 (x)
the dugout, 198? (x)
in with the out crowd, 1990 (1)
las cruces, nm 8.96 (2)
mapped, compilation
indicated i and iii, compilations of ig songs as performed by random fans

other, lesser folk: :-)
=======================
catie curtis, brazos bar & grill 4.96            (1)
caroline aiken, canal st. cafe, 5.12.96          (2)
caroline aiken on wumb, 7.12.96                  (0)
dar williams, bill morrissey, and les sampou on wumb, 7.7.96 (0)
melissa etheridge: mtv unplugged, vh1, rock'nroll roots of me, woodstock '94, montreal '94 (3/10?), unplugged & more (x)
ani difranco, sacramento 5.28.96, portsmouth, ny 4.20.96 (x)

the numbers in parens are generation numbers; x = unknown.
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"i always feel i have to take a stand, and there's always someone on hand to
hate me for standing there / i always feel i have to open my mouth, and every
time i do, i offend someone somewhere..."--ani difranco             ;no comment

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hey everyone inthe philly area ...

commonbond is playing at sister's tomorrow - friday feb 7th from 10pm to 1am
...

come on out and see 'em !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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<<please someone else download it and tell me if you think amy is saying
"funky gig" or "fucking gig" or something else entirely... (why don't they
close caption these things for the amy-interpretation impaired?)>>

it sounds to me like she's saying, "fucky gig," but i really don't think
that's it.  i do like the way emily just cuts her off & boldly states,
"map."  or maybe she doesn't cut her off, but anyway...

for those of you who can't download it, i'll tell you what they say.  a
woman whom we can't see asks them, "have you guys decided on an album title
yet?"  a says, "fucky gig," or something else that we can't decipher, & e
says, "map."  then the unseen woman says, "map."  that's about it.  they're
getting ready for something though.  anyone know what?

andi

  -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
                                andrea lipman
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         for as long as i have to be, until i can understand it, and
        then i will be positive...when i hate, i will turn my hatred
           into energy, when i am angry i will turn my anger into
              energy...and i will not be complacent."-amy ray
  _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

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reserved seating experience...

it seems to depend on the venue:  i saw them maybe 3 years ago at great
woods (massachusetts), an outdoor amphitheater kind of place, and all but
the lawn seats for _every_ show there are reserved seating.  also, when
they played at my college a few years ago _all_ was reserved seating --
luckily i knew that, and i went to camp out at 5 am the day they started
selling tickets.  5th row!!  come to think of it, the *only* times i've
seen them with open seating have been at newport...

later y'all,
deb, who also just saw rush this year from the 4th row!

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subject:      going to buy a new album......

i'm going to buy 1200c tommorow....

can anyone tell me what tracks i should look out for on the album?
"i sit two stories above the street, it's awful
quite here since love fell asleep..."

indigo girls, least complicated

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i just got some boots back and "finlandia" was on one.  oh my gosh!  this
song is soooo beautiful it made me cry!  can anyone tell me about it?  like
who wrote it, is it on a cd somewhere, can i get the music to it, etc.  the
set list didn't give any info. please post to the list if it's something
interesting and igc.  otherwise, just answer privately.  thanks!

joanne

p.s. there's gotta be someone else from indiana out there!?

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does anyone have insite on this tune..as in who its about ( not the
"seamy details",,just basic stuff????)
with lyrics like
"i don't want the best for you..where would i be if you found it???" its
gotta have a storybehind it..
anyone??

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sorry for that first post.  i'm not sure what happened.  that's my friend
jason, but please don't start prank calling him or anything childish like
that.  he's a nice guy.  i'm sure you guys wouldn't do that anyway, right?

sorry again,

joanne :)

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sorry to be a pain guys, but i seem to have missed out on the loop
info recently. i signed up for it, but since then have heard nothing. just
want to make sure that i'm on a loop somehow somewhere. my uni has a
few problems with it's computer network and sometimes my mail just
doesn't get to me. i have either missed out on the info, not been put
on the list, or someone else somewhere in the uni is stealing my
e-mail post. help!!??

kate

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on fri, 7 feb 1997, joanne wrote:

> i just got some boots back and "finlandia" was on one.  oh my gosh!  this
> song is soooo beautiful it made me cry!  can anyone tell me about it?  like
> who wrote it, is it on a cd somewhere, can i get the music to it, etc.  the
> set list didn't give any info. please post to the list if it's something
> interesting and igc.  otherwise, just answer privately.  thanks!

the song was written by the finnish composer jean sibelius, in the 19th
century, and the girls did it on the indigo girls ep in 1986, which was
released on a local label (dragon's path, i think).   it's not on any
commercially available cd, except for possibly some which rainy day
records (in atlanta) put out from time to time.   they also have covered
it live on several occasions.

mat

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hey ya'll,

i just heard on the news that me is involved in a lawsuit, but they didn'y
say about what or who or anything.  does anyone have any info?

stacey

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gwendigo mentioned:

something about the potential for get out the map to become the next ig
anthem.

(okay, so i'm on digest and don't feel like quoting right now.)

i somewhat agree with this, although i have to admit i think it will be
shame on you--if anything, because every time i hear it it gets stuck in
my head for days and then i find myself walking along to my ig 308 class
(perspectives on animals in ig songs) singing "la la la...shame on you".

so that gets my vote for best amy song. best emily song: a tossup between
leeds and winthrop. as much as i _love_ winthrop, i think the vote has to
go to leeds--because the first time i heard it at bumbershoot it brought
tears to my eyes.

<sniff>
so glad the list is somewhat back to normal,
:) stephanie

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______________________________-indigo girls, "it's alright"_____

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--- joanne wrote:

p.s. there's gotta be someone else from indiana out there!?
--- end of quoted material ---

yeeeeep yah sure you betcha, i'm from indiana....just ask greg  ;)

susanna susanna danna

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tied for first:  texas & washington state with a count of 19 each (11%)

following a strong second:  massachusetts with 18 votes (10%)

third is new york, new jersey, california with 10 votes a piece (6%)

forth:  utah, penn, illinois, georgia, florida with 6 votes (3%)

missouri & canada following behind with 5 votes

green bay packers fan - - i think you'll have to settle for the super bowl
victory!!!  you're currently in 6th place with tennessee and maryland with
only 4 votes.

north carolina & england all have 3 votes

virginia, the philippines, ohio, new hampshire, montana, minnesota,
michigan, louisiana, indiana, connecticut, australia, & alaska are all
strongly bringing up the rear all casting 2 votes.

i'll post the results again on monday.  i'm off to fly out of virginia and
back home to sweet 'ole texas.

please remember to e-mail me privately with your survey results.  thanks.
-  jen hall

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just a little plug for minnesota.  register my vote there!  that should move
us up to a tie for 7th!  :)

now a question.  i hadn't seen the bmhawk single until yesterday.  i found
it at the local used cd store which just opened up.  is it something that
most major chains haven't been carrying, or am i just that isolated out here?

lisa
lisa nordeen
head women's basketball coach
university of minnesota, morris
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"i made a bad connection, she says i went astray.  i jumped ship, abandoned
my post, i didn't think i lost my way.  oh how the mighty fall.  you know, i
saw her crack a smile.  i don't got a chance for redemption.  she don't
believe in the miracle mile."
-amy ray

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ok, you massachusetts people!  we may have lost the superbowl, but we had
no control over that.  this we have control over!  so i say to you...

"git out the vote, git out the vote, send jen a vote for the commonwealth..."

"we're gonna win this race
not gonna stop 'til it's done
we're gonna all vote good and loud 'cuz our lister's are good and proud!"

(ok, so i'll keep my day job.  whaddya want in 5 minutes?...)

joni  :o)

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greetings and salutations!

ok guys, this is just to let you know that i _just_ sent out an email to
everyone on my list for the loop tape. this is the final list.

if you did not receive that email from me, please email me and we'll see
what the problem is. i'm pretty sure i got everyone on there that emailed me.


if you're not on it, and you want to be, you can email me and beg real hard
to be put on the list, but you've had a week, and hopefully you have
already emailed me and been put on the list. i will probably still put you
on if you catch me before i leave the office, which will be in a few hours.

i'll be taking this list home with me,  organising each loop/loop leader
tonight, and will post something tommorrow morning.

i'd like to thank  angela c. potteiger, pooh, karra l mcleroy, amy j.
putnam, meghan joan welch, david s rogers (who called me a genius so can do
whatever the hell he wants *wink*),  susan malmrose, linda hurd, tucker,
anjeanette milner, jen lucero,  sarah  (sanawike1), tony (tonyfrapsiv),
mandi (mandi96), kate (k.r.onions) and helene burningham all for
volunteering to be loop leaders. they don't know yet that i'm taking them
up on their offer to lead a loop because i haven't even emailed them yet,
but never fear guys! i'll fill you in as soon as _i_ know! thank you thank
you thank you for volunteering :)

ok .. thats all. back to you're normally scheduled ig.

amy

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hey all...
just found a picture of a & e i hadn't seen before... if anyone wants to
check it out...
http://www.eonline.com/celebs/photos/a21.html
take it easy...
carrie

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and so am i...
even though i am claiming mass. on the poll
!! indiana grrls can be alot of fun.. right susan??
anj

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subject:      controlled lists/the dar and  fan mail.
in-reply-to:  <17937a37011c0e00>

on controlled lists/the dar list:

suzi wrote:
>in any case, i already knew "netiquette" from the extremely anal
darlist.
>i hope this list never has someone like the slug on there who feels it's
>his duty to post "rules" all of the time.  it makes for an unpleasant
>atmosphere occasionally (right susan, harry...etc?).

amen.   the funny thing is that he thinks he is preventing flame wars by
doing so, but almost
all of the flame wars recently are about him and how sick of him everyone
is.

the fun part is watching him try to act as if he were a part of "team
dar" and watching, at the same
time, how dar's management team tries to keep their distance from him.

as far as the dar tapes go.  dar and her management don't mind trading,
the list manager keeps pointing
out that it is fine to talk about it on the list. its really only this
one guy who has a problem with it.  what a pain.
after much acramony, we finally had a long discussion of bootlegs, in
which dar's management was very
much involved, and, in the end, has been very, very productive.  (along
with the previous authorized tapings
of dar's early, no longer available albums) we got a limited, authorized
release of a dar video which includes
the commercially made video that was turned down by vh-1, and several
live appearences, and there is
something even more exciting to come in the fall.

as much as i hate to see the flame wars and the bickering that often
happens on this list, and as often as i find
myself skimming and ignoring whole digests as a result, i would never
trade it for a controlled list.

on fan mail:

the new version of writing fan letters is fan emails.   i've written
emails to catie curtis and ellis paul and gotten great
responces from each.  i also got a picture autographed for my daughter
from catie through the email.

another interesting encounter i had was to write a note to dave marsh,
the rock writer/critic/friend of bruce springsteen's,
about an article he had written, and not only did he write back, but we
have had many correspondances since.

that's all for now, by the way, i really like these trivia contests/tape
offers (thanks sarah and kirsten) , i'll make an offer too
as soon as i can think up some good questions.   : )

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

it was long ago, and it was far away,
and it was so much better than it is today.
(please don't flame me on my choice of songs to
quote, we all have our guilty pleasures)

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subject:      re: jen's survey nigc

hey everyone!

well, since joni is singing to her state, i haaaad to jump in and remind
all us washington people to vote for us.  cause i know that we have the
most.  so get in gear and vote (although, we are obviously the coolest,
cause up until now, we haven't posted votes for wa to the list, everyone
(except me) knows better than to waste the bandwidth)

so, do it now, write jen hall!  say you are from wa. we must have the
biggest ig contingent of anywhere. (and we are smaller than tx, so we
probably have more per capita than them anyway)

yay for us!

oh, and if we win, betsy will buy everyone a beer (or an equivalent drink
for the non-alocoholic drinkers)  heh heh heh....

love,
sundara, president, sbmfc

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california feels a little lonely... :)

with stained glass smiles,
xochitl

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              "hunterj1@aol.com" at feb 7, 97 5:39 am

for the record, the reason i formerly pushed people away from aol was
because of their fee structure.  its so much cheaper to get a shell
account and have unlimited access for $20 a month.  aol bills could
easily to $100 a month for some irc'ers i know.

but now aol has changed their fee structure to precisely this! the
phone line thing is a bump in the road and will work itself out soon.
aol has a very good graphical interface for people who are somewhat
uncomefortable with the technology.  its not a substitute for digging
up what ever information youmight want (like raw internet service),
but 99% of the population would never do that anyway.  aol provides
all the services they want (and a few they didn't know they wanted)
with a push button interface.

in the end, its no longer a silly idea to have an aol account.  as a
matter of fact, if you consider the guest appearernces which are
exclusive to aol -- people like **attn igc** oh the indigo girls, it
may acutally make sense to have an aol account in addition to a shell
account.  or maybe not, ymmv.

anyway, don't be fooled by the numbers.  yes there are a lot of aol
twits out there -- but that's because there are a lot of aol'ers out
there.  there are also more *.edu twits than i care to mention.


                                -- chris

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hello from ohio
i am a newbie to this list and are you readyfor this, to the internet.
yes, there are a few of us left. i refused to put another $$$ into a
computer system i dont use much just to get on line. so im trying web tv
and so far its good. especially since im here talking to you. so im
prepared for any webber jokes(after reading those aol jabs) but i dont
offend easily. it wiill roll off my back like water off a duck. there
now you cant use that one. sorry i cant do any posting of peoples
letters as reference quotes but give me a break, im working with a tv
set here. also, since i have been lurking awhile as the listserver
suggests(i read and enjoyed the faqs too) ive noticed quite a few people
talking about boots. is there anyway us newbies can get stuff thats old
hat to you guys. before finding this list i only knew 3 other people who
ever heard of the ig around here. i cant handle the boot quizes, im
forty and brain cells are dying fast. basically im bootless in ohio.
this letter is sounding pretty pathetic so if anyone out there has
recently sinned and wants to make amends, helping me equals 10 hail
marys and 10 our fathers.
excuse my netiquette but im only on chapter 4 of internet for dummies
bettyann (the webber)
auntb@webtv.net

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subject:      re: changing the subject back to ig :)

i like this: some igc, finally!  it's non-offensive, too.  (a plus)  okay . .

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well, i'm a linguist, so in the interest of science, i listened to the
clip a few million times more(numbers are approximate) and i've now
concluded that what amy is actually saying is:  ucking ig

i think we all know what that means:  ig must have recently become aware
of the tragic plight of the countless millions who roam the streets,
suffering from loss of initial consonants.  in solidarity,  amy isn't
using them anymore. she is so cool. oops, i mean: e is o ool.

alison <-  already conveniently de-consonanted

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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on fri, 7 feb 1997, keates, harry wrote:

> another interesting encounter i had was to write a note to dave marsh,
> the rock writer/critic/friend of bruce springsteen's,
> about an article he had written, and not only did he write back, but we
> have had many correspondances since.

i wonder if any of the people who wrote to marsh regarding his butcherings
of neil young (most recently in mojo in 1994) have had the same experience
...

mat

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okay....once when i was in high school i made a painting
of melissa manchester (back when she was a funky new york
songwriter not a mor queen and blossom's mom...which is fine,
don't get me wrong) i made it from a picture that i took of her
and her band performing at a great club in sf called the
boarding house.... (now defunct :(
and my friends said "oh...you should give it to her !!!!" so we
went to a concert and they pushed me at this roadmanager type
and he came back and said she wanted to meet me ..so they
took us into the bowels of the venue and i gave it to her and
i was young and awkward and embarassed and she was lovely
and gracious. a couple of weeks later i got a really nice handwritten
letter from her...what a classy woman...i wish she'd make some
straight jazz albums...but that's another story.....
love !
binky
p.s. i also wrote a letter to the girls @ carters office requesting:
1: a live album
2: a video compilation
3: more electric guitars
i can only assume they read it and took my stellar advice ;)
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subject:      re: sorry, nigc-bad day at school :(sort-of-long):

this post reminded me a lot of my experience in ancient civ the other day.
we're learning about ancient greece, and someone a while back asked about
the island of lesbos.  our teacher promised us to explain it at some point,
and some point rolled around a few days ago.  she was attempting to be
serious about this poet woman from there who wrote 'homosexual poetry,' but
her attitude only made our class uncomfortable.  she was treating the whole
thing like it was some inappropriate discussion she had been forced into, and
you could tell she was having a stroke everytime she said 'gay.'  she then
started expanding into how homosexuality wasn't taboo in ancient greece and
that it was even practiced <gasp> openly.  "we have less tolerence for it
here," she said "than they had in ancient greece.  but there is more
tolerance here than a few years ago."  she paused, blushed, and looked
towards the ground. "some people say," confused look "it's progress."  her
whole attitude thru the whole thing got me pretty ticked off, because even
tho she was saying good things, her voice and attitude and frequent throat
clearings screamed another.  the part that i almost had an attack on: "while
it may or may not be perverted, homosexuality is no reason for someone not to
be safe.  just because someone has chosen an alternative lifestyle <clear
throat> doesn't <clear throat> mean that <pause> they should be tormented, or
anything.  just because they have chosen to be different doesn't make them
bad."  i almost called out "where was the choice in this?!?"  my friend, who
i sit next to, is one of the only people who knows that i'm gay, and she was
watching me thu the whole thing . . . but, what can i do?  i think the way
she presented it made me as a gay student feel offended and awkward, but who
do you say that to when you can't come out?  if i had said anything i would
have felt pressure from within to back it up with "i'm gay," but i don't want
other people labeling me before i compleately have . . . it seems to me that
this is difficult enough without being forced to sit thru biased class
lectures on the subject.  only two of my friends from school know (one only
because she asked, and one because she got caught in the middle of the
'unfortunate incident' at my camp this summer), but one can barely look me in
the eye anymore and the other has offered to talk about it, but she's a huge
gossip, and i can't give her more than she can handle.  two of my friends
from camp know, and since they are both bi, they've been pretty helpful at
times, but they live far away and are lousy correspondents.  i've found
refuge in some places, like indigo girls, and this book i read the other day
(rubyfruit jungle), but whenever the subject comes up i feel compelled to
comment but scared to.  i feel like a wimp for not wanting to just tell
people, but i feel like i can't handle losing my friends, some of which i
know i will.  my best friend said to me a month or two ago "i can tell a dyke
a mile away!"  i wan't to say "well, actuallly, you can't."  but instead i
said "oh, really?"  and laughed along with him.

wow, i just ranted.  sorry . . . i guess i just needed to say that.  now that
i've fumed, you can go back to your regularly schedualed programing.

-elizabeth

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two posts in one day, i haven't done that in months, anyway

>i just heard on the news that me is involved in a lawsuit, but they
didn'y
>say about what or who or anything.  does anyone have any info?

apparently a former tour manager of hers is writing a tell-all book or
article
about me that will be giving away many secrets.  me is suing for $500,000
and
to stop publication.   i think this is right.

and to answer joni's call, i'll just mention that i'm from mass.  too.  :
)

  harry a. keates
  email: hak@crai.com

it was long ago, and it was far away,
and it was so much better than it is today.

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> if i could give kirsten a beer...well......
you'd get hauled off for corrupting youth. :-)
kirsten

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time i do, i offend someone somewhere..."--ani difranco             ;no comment

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at 01:56 am 2/7/97 -0500, you wrote:

>and actually, this seems particularily true of most amy songs- in fact, i began
>to wonder, if amy ray were to form a school of guitar playing, what sort of
>lesssons would there be?  perhaps...
>
>  101  aerobics & open chords
>  201  advanced gymnastics & barre chords
>  301  guitar string repair, maintenance (aka "land of canaan")
>  401  interpretive dance & acoustic rock
>  :

   102  capo it!  (aka "turn gcd into anything!")


<please note this is a joke, based on early songs.  any humour impaired
flames will be sent directly to the trash with glee>

peace,
bill

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> >  401  interpretive dance & acoustic rock

402  advanced interpretive dance:  moving the hands seductively during
pauses

609  balance and coordination:  the management of two guitars (loc in
watershed) while kicking over one's beer (some bootleg i have)

302  sewing:  the maintenance of shirt-sleeves, so as not to get in the
way

8-),
chris ii

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>tied for first:  texas & washington state with a count of 19 each (11%)

        add myself and jeni (grnrgrrl@geocities.com) to the washington
contingent.  (i add her too b/c she's having probs with her email)

      tracy <who challenges any texan to a slug-toss anyday>

"mrs. peel, we're needed."
        - the avengers

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hi all...i need help!

does anyone have the lyrics and tabs for ferron's "it won't take long"??
i just got my hands on "the spirit of '73" and ig's version really really
rocked!

by the way...i never got an answer for a question i posted a long time
ago...does anyone know which rolling stone issue that little blurb about the
ig was in??  (if you know, please email me privately)

toasting a "tsingtao" beer to all cuz its chinese new year!!!
kung hay fat choy!  sun lien fai lok!

--sue

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned
i said remember this as how it should be..."
                                -- amy ray

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hey guys
tdk is offering free tapes for max points!

go to
http://www.tdk.com/tdkmax.htm

hurray!
lori


"when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on"
                                            rem

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subject:      re: soda (pop), binky the great goddess, and assorted randomness
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s. steffen wrote:

> and they would look at
> me with expressions of horror and disgust when i said "pop." direct quote
> from about ten of them: "pop?  you call your dad pop, popcorn pops, a
> baseball can pop up, but this is soda."  {you unwashed yokel} was the
> underlying message.  after being scathed by enough brats in my residence
> hall, i readjusted and now cannot call it "pop."  then i moved to iowa for
> graduate school...and i said "soda," and people look at me like i'm nuts.
> "do you mean pop?" is what i get all of the time, after a short processing
> pause.  jeez!!!  it's like the great "sack vs. bag" controversy.   the
> trials of attempting not to call everything by name brands...

yeah, it's "pop" in the midwest, "tonic" in boston, "soda" most other places,
and growing up in memphis, they're all "cokes".  as in:

        q  "wanna coke?"
        a  "sure"
        q  "what kind?"
        a  "root beer, thanks"

without a bat of an eye.  did anyone ever hear the new regional coca-cola ad
campaign - "coke - it's not just for breakfast anymore"?  ;-)

ttfn, (someone actually just said that to me last night)
tom

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          \/   stove-lid again---and that is well;  but also she will never sit
               down on a cold one anymore.    -- mark twain

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hi everyone,

chris ii said:
>302  sewing:  the maintenance of shirt-sleeves, so as not to get in the
>way

... to be followed in the next semester by:

303  sewing deconstructed, aka "ripping strategic holes in your
        jeans, with especial attention to the butt"

(madeline, you could take this one. :)

sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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and silence all around feels so apart from me.
i could sit and cry for all the love and all the pain
that brings itself to mind inside a harmony..."
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hi y'all,

i'm new to the list and i love the indigo girls.  i haven't
been to any concerts yet but can't wait until they go on tour.  i
have all of their mainstream albums and the watershed video.  i
would love to start to collect boots. would anyone out there be
willing to help me out?  i don't have anything to trade in return but
would happily send a blank tape and postage.  thanks so much.

dawn

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oh, no, i think this is sacreligious or something...tdk tapes for max
points?  sundara, what will you do?  all those max points, all those free
tapes, and yet they're tdk.....it's almost enough agony to compose a
soc....

besides aren't we all saving up for those inflatable a & e's?  c'mon guys,
rally against the tyranny and sly trickster ways of tdk....but hey it's
freeeeeeeee......


on fri, 7 feb 1997, lori brinkman wrote:

> hey guys
> tdk is offering free tapes for max points!
>
> go to
> http://www.tdk.com/tdkmax.htm
>
> hurray!
> lori
>
>
> "when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on"
>                                             rem
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well last nite i was thinking and listening to 1200c
and it occurred to me that sometimes ig refer to their
own songs in their lyrics.. has anyone else noticed that??
and if you had can you name them?? i can think of about 2
or 3.. but there may be more..

and when they refer to them are they before or after the song
was released?? that i have to check with tape boxes and lyrics
but do you think they went wow.. that was a neat idea, let's
expand, or do you think that they had already had a song in
mind, not finished or fully recorded and decided to refer it?
so go at it all you ig experts.. put on your thinking caps
and run!!! hope this brings up some neat new convos!!

anjeanette (who went to buy blanks and they wouldnt let her :(   )

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with all the anomosity on the list lately i was having a terrible personal
quandry over whether i should unsubcribe or just change to aol (provided i
could get an account)
to direct some of those flames towards me.  the heat is not working right at
work and i could have used the added warmth...

in any case i am posting because:

1.  i was in an old place of employment looking up release dates and i too
got "official" word that the map release date has been pushed back 'til late
april.  so i
am seconding (or thirding or whatever the case may be) whoever posted the
date of april 29th.


2.  beer to serve ig!!  since i am incredibly bored at work i am thinking of
dabbling in the fine art of microbrewing.  i would serve amy, emily, the
other 9 new jerseyans (which includes "dolly parton") on jen's survey, jen
(my technical), corinne  (my slighted secret girlfriend), and anyone else
who wanted to have some my first batch of brew.  maybe we could add some
grapenuts instead of barley...

hell, i think i will just send some to the entire list.  it would be like
the beer of the month club... well sort of.  some of us really need to
relax.  i am not advocating the abuse or even use of alcohol to do this (it
is my feeble attempt at humor), but how about if we all play nice for
awhile.  (can we add that to the faq?)

cynthia crecca
cac573@worldnet.att
crecca@admin.njit.edu

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hey everyone!!  i am so excited!! my cd player has been less than
perfect ever since i got 1200c, and i just go it back in mint condition
today so i got to listen to 1200c with great sound for the first
time!!!  be happy..:)

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good grief!!  2 posts in a week from me: major post-arrhea if i do
say so myself; usually i can barely keep up with the digests.

even though i "officially" consider myself a ched (go pack!) i guess
i am a "part-time" hoosier, or a "hoosier by proxy" since i've been
living here for almost 5 years going to grad school.  does that
sound ok susan b.?? :)

fwiw, carbonated soft drinks=pop, you pack your groceries in a bag,
and that thing in the hallway where you get a drink is a bubbler! :)
i'm sure the other wisconsinites out there will appreciate that one!

sue

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would someone please enlighten my poor self about what is so bad about
tdk?  when i first started my boot collection, i was advised to use tdk.
and i don't hear a quality difference, but then...i'm often clueless.

on fri, 7 feb 1997, marianne barlow wrote:

> oh, no, i think this is sacreligious or something...tdk tapes for max
> points?  sundara, what will you do?  all those max points, all those free
> tapes, and yet they're tdk.....it's almost enough agony to compose a
> soc....
>
> besides aren't we all saving up for those inflatable a & e's?  c'mon guys,
> rally against the tyranny and sly trickster ways of tdk....but hey it's
> freeeeeeeee......
>
>

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501- could be- hair and wardrobe- how to acheive that cool casual amyness.
this would be a really short class, and the only materials required would be
a brush, toothrbrush, old shirt, old comfy jeans, workboots, and maybe a
washcloth.
601- the art of stream of consciousness writing
701- vegetarian cooking ( using some of em's homegrown 'maters!)

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in a message dated 97-02-07 12:33:02 est, pooh40@mc.net (pooh) writes:

<<
does anyone have insite on this tune..as in who its about ( not the
"seamy details",,just basic stuff????)
with lyrics like
"i don't want the best for you..where would i be if you found it???" its
gotta have a storybehind it..
anyone?? >>

hi all

i agree with pooh, cara mia is pretty intense.  emily must have been going
through a pretty confusing time when she wrote it.  lines like "for 3 night
straight now i dreamed i've got both of my shoes, i've forgotten my lines,
i've misplaced my queue's".  wow.  if anyone knows the true story, i'd love
to hear it!

also, i have an extra cd of "complicated girls" for sale.  the 1st $25 bucks
gets it!

hope you are all doing well.  any hey, stop making fun of us aol'ers...i am
getting a complex!

love

jan->prez of the sunny b. fan club, and member smbfc

:)

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