lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-02c

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 00:19:19 -0500
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fri, 14 feb 1997 22:52:53 -0500, patricia wrote:

>i think we should make a day for people w/o significant others,
>i don't know what it would be called (anyone have any suggestions)

what about tucker day...it seems appropriate since i am convinced that i
will never have a reason to celebrate a day of love!!!!!
hmmmm...ok, i have stopped feeling glum!!! time to have a good time...later
yall!!!!

peace and singleness!
tucker

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 00:14:14 -0600
reply-to:     tracy - bounding to a new email address <trace@wolfenet.com>
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        at the risk of terribly further offending those who are not
currently significant other'd (i.e. delete now if you are one of these), i
just have to tap a quick  *#*#*# thank you #*#*#* to this list for causing
me to meet my forever soulmate.  for bumbershoot i posted a note that if
anyone in the south part of puget sound wanted to carpool to send me a note.
she did, we carpooled, we found way too many similarities and
compatibilities to ignore, and we fell stupidly, madly, and passionately in
love.

thank you, ig-l and indigo girls for directly participating in my
discovery of my one true love.

        jeni, thank you for thinking that going to bumbershoot with another
lister, even an overly-talkative-on-the-list stranger, might be cool.  thank
you for writing to me.  thank you for loving me.  most of all, thank you for
being you.

i'll shaddyup now before anyone flames me for being too whatever. :-)

tracy

"mrs. peel, we're needed."
- the avengers

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 10:09:20 -0800
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awhile ago i made some boots for a kind soul who in exchange was gonna
make me a boot of mary chapin carpenter..wellll...did ya do
it...unfortunately for me and very fortunately for you , i've forgotten
who you are...if you remember..can you do it..
honor system now!!
also ..lots of talk about cheryl wheeler ..but shes not available around
here..would someone be willing to share a taste.....?

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 17:08:35 +0000
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subject:      re: chickenman's message of love
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on fri, 14 feb 1997, da chickenman wrote:

>         amy's chickenman soc from charleston, sc 2-7-95 boot-
>
<snip>
>         and love, "you know my body stretched out like so many skins....
>         alone it conquers our way.....
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this soc also appears on the indizone home page, but it is transcribed as
"along this carcass highway" - which tallies in a bit more with the song
itself and with most of the other socs which have been given during the
song.

mat

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sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

marc = minimal amy ray content ;)

so patti did indeed do a "gushy" love song on letterman last night ;)

she ripped through a smithian version of "who do you love"
and as she augumented the lyrics (as she is wont to do...)
i noticed the line :
honor the earth

coinkidink ??? probably...but cool :)
happy saturday !
binky

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 12:55:13 -0600
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subject:      i have the lyrics to winthrop!
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this is multipart mime message.

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okay, now lets see if this works. i figured out the lyrics to winthrop
off the newport boot. if this doesn't work, sorry for all the
gobeldygook.

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winthrop
by emily saliers

when we get back to winthrop
a few miles from the airport
in a plastic chair, on a deck where my friends live.
i watch the taking off airplanes
watch the ocean waves crashing
when we follow this movement somethings got to give.

down at the high tide,
passed down through the family
fisherman gather to complain about the catch

we talk about time,
we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and coffee deep night black.

i listen to them
i listen to you,
and for everyone there is something never coming back.

wherefor all that we've been through
for all that we've promised
your way with direction seems insensible
words fall out like crepless (?) fish
all flopping and scattered
and hearts picked over deemed expensible

down at the high tide,
there for our last meal
where broken granis (?) is still enough for all

you talk about time,
and we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and deep night coffee black

i hear the tin roar
of the last flight out
and for someone
there is someone never coming back.

i talk about time
and we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and deep night coffee black

i hear the tin roar
of the last flight out
and for someone there is someone never coming back.

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i just translated the newport version of emily's winthrop...

winthrop
by the atlantan goddess emily saliers

when we get back to winthrop
a few miles from the airport
in a plastic chair on adeck where my friends live.
i watch the taking off airplanes
watch the ocean crashing
when we follow the movements somethings got to give.

down at the high tide,
passed down through the family
fisherman gather to complain about the catch

we talk about time,
we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and coffee deep night black.

i listen to them
i listen to you,
and for everyone there is something never coming back.

down at the high tide,
there for our last meal
where broken granis (?) is still enough for all

you talk about time,
and we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and coffee deep night black.

i hear the tin roar
of the last flight out
and for someone there is someone never coming back.

i talk about time
and we talk about tides
the pull of the moon and deep night coffee black.

i hear the tin roar
of the last flight out
and for someone there is someone never coming back.

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date:         sat, 15 feb 1997 14:45:24 -0800
reply-to:     da chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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ok folks - this looks like the "right" interpretation sent to me by pj
(thanks :) i left two notations though for possible consideration??

chickenman,

even though i will probably have to take a cold shower after typing this here
goes:

i ask my love what will breathe eternally? i asked my love what will breathe
eternally? i said love would you know these hands lying unforgiven, imobile
in the bottom of a desperate hole? would you know these eyes if they were on
fire on a funeral pyre floating down a river side? would you know this chest
sunken and depleted reaching to be filled by you? would you know these arms,
stretching up to the trees past the moon? would you know this soul reaching
vilely(?) explaining waiting for some further fascination? i said love would
{beyond the explained?}
you know me? would you know my mouth if it wasn't on you? would you know my
feet lying dead in the middle of a wood growing up like trillion on the
{trillium?}
forest floor mushrooms flyin' all around? i said love what will breathe
eternally? what can i leave you? what part of me? what will breathe
eternally? and love will you know my body stretched out like so many skins
along this carcass highway? love.

wheeeeeeeeeeeew!!!!!!!!!!!! happy love day

:*)
pj

thanks for the effort pj. it was well worth it, don't ya think? ;)

tony
da chickenman
i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
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o

hi friends,

check out this great ig site:
http://www.sony.dreammedia.com/epiccenter/docs/artistupdate.qry?artistid=83

it offers updated info regarding tour dates, album release and studio pics!
also, if your using netscape, listen to clips from the new album.

luv ya all! annie

in a message dated 97-02-15 17:49:01 est, tony writes:

<< even though i will probably have to take a cold shower after typing this
here
goes: >>
then he transcribes an amy ray soc.......

...any wonder why straight married ladies feel faint in her presence ?????

holy moley.

yik nib

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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 00:11:37 +0000
reply-to:     jen lucero <jlucero@mail.monmouth.com>
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hi all,

sorry to waste bandwidth but i have a few people that i can't seem to
connect with...so would alec (pop.pipeline.com), kim
(secruss@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu), andrea (adalary@pheonix.princeton.edu)
please email me privately so i can forward some pertinent material to you...

and if anyone else is interested in the above party let me know...it's
march 15th...

jen

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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 01:25:45 -0500
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if anyone wants a hfscamo (spelling?) ticket, i have an extra, if you live
near the ski liberty in maryland (i think that is where it is being held)
or wouldn't mind driving there, email me for info on the ticket, im
selling it for the price i paid for it through ticketmaster, $20, if
anyone is interested, email me, thanx

nick

where am i?

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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 10:02:26 -0500
reply-to:     renee landrum <slandrum@sophia.smith.edu>
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on sat, 15 feb 1997, da chickenman wrote:

> feet lying dead in the middle of a wood growing up like trillion on the
> {trillium?}

trillium. it's a three-petaled flower....

+o-renee landrum, smith college, northampton ma---slandrum@sophia.smith.edu-o+
"don't resent your struggles; struggle is a victory. through struggle,
change occurs, and through change, liberation occurs." -aishah shahidah simmons
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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 11:03:43 -0800
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hey everyone.

this is sundara, and greta and pj. yesterday, greta and i were waiting for pj to get here (chimacum), and we decided to get coffee in port townsend and at the same time, make a copy of a great picture of a&e for sundara. so, we decided to take the picture in with us to the coffee shop. and we hung it on the wall next to us and chatted with them, as if they were there with us (do we have a problem--nooooo!) then, we drove them around pt and showed them the sights, paying special attention to the native american art galleries. then we copied them. now there are four. hahahaha.

so pj got here, and we watched some videos, and drooled, and then val, greta's friend came, (pj wants to say she is in looooove. greta wants to say she introduced them.) we got all dressed up for this costume type party thingy. i looked wicked sexy. hee hee. so did greta and pj and val. let me describe myself. i wore this little, short black sequined and velvet dress, black velvet baseball hat, bright purple tights, and big black knee-high boots. very badass. i have never dressed like that before in my life, but damn, i looked good. greta also wore a little black dress, and these great tights, red and black striped ones, and a feather boa, and motor cycle boots. pj wore a little black dress and a big hat and cool tights and a feather boa also. we all looked hot. but, the costume contest was lost to someone who was dressed as princess jasmine....sigh...

then, we watched the play. it was funny. we liked it. hahahah. okay. then we went out for coffee. greta changed into fatigues and we were a badass couple. greta and i had a desert that was so good, it was amy ray on a plate, dark and rich and sensuous. (hi, my name's sundara, and i'm an amy-a-holic, and this is my friend greta, she fell off the amy ray wagon) soooo, then, we walked out of the coffee shop and who do we run into?? kathy and sue!!! it was soooo thrilling. listees everywhere. they are celebrating there 10 year anniversary and are now my favorite couple :) yay for them, happy anniversary. :)

greta wants to say that her hard drive crashed, and so she hasn't had email in two days and will write everyone soon, please re-send email to her, cause she didn't get it. pj wants to say she is still in denial about being obssessed with amy ray and refuses to seek help. and sundara wants to say she loves susan b marine. so. that is it. enough of my random babbling.

love,
sundara, pj, and greta

"indigo sounded good, it was either that or the georgia peaches"
-amy

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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 19:28:38 -0500
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         according to the hollywood reporter, ellen degeneres's
         character on the sitcom ellen may reveal her homosexuality
         on an hour-long episode tentatively set to air on april
         30th, the first day of may sweeps. a script for the episode
         has not yet been submitted to abc and disney for approval,
         which will determine whether the episode makes it to the air
         or not.
         http://www.hollywoodreporter.com

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in a message dated 97-02-16 14:07:11 est, cgohn@olympus.net (candice gohn)
writes:

<< then we copied them. now there are four. hahahaha. >>
kinda sounds like you multiplied the girls by the power of two.
ohkay, it's stupid, but i couldn't resist!
julie

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date:         sun, 16 feb 1997 21:17:01 -0500
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hey everybody,
here's the scoop on both the upcoming mm and ig albums...
concerning michelle, the album is going to be released in june...it is no
longer a band de soleil effort, it will be a solo mm album with tracks from
bird on fire as well as some new ones with other musicians... i know for
sure that the edge has be re-recorded for it... mm will be doing a small
east coast tour from march 18-20th.. i have the good fortune of opening for
her on the 20th at my college..so, if any of you all want to come out..
please do.. the venue is small and perfect for her solo....we will also be
in philly the night before and that should be cool too...i'll be working
the merch booth... i don't know if the new album will be titled bird on
fire or not..bds broke up because they all felt that it was time.. i
hear that danny is going to record a solo drumming album...incorporating
his intrest in native american drumming..but i am not positive on this
...we will just have to see...
onto the indigos...
the album is titled shaming the sun, not map... they were going to call it
a bull in a china shop (or something to that extent) but decided not to
because there is a book out by the same name...
it will be released on the 29th of april, as you all know, and the cover
of the promo has two dolls on it that supposedly resemble a&e.. i haven't
seen it yet..but i will sometime this week... also.. i was *very*
disappointed when i heard this, but chiapas didn't make the final
cut..insted it will be included on their next album which is going to be a
"folk" album...they've already recorded a few tracks for it, but i have no
idea when it will be released.....
matthew sweet is also touring now.. he was in philly last friday night and
will be at the chameleon in lancaster, pa this friday.. the 21st....so, if
any of you listees are going, i'll be there... his new album will be out on
the 21st of march .. he is playing mostly older stuff on tour now....i
heard that the philly show was really great.. he has a few new band
members...it should be cool...
take care.....
with dreams of immortality,
maggie

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at 09:24 pm 2/15/97 -0500, binky wrote:
>in a message dated 97-02-15 17:49:01 est, tony writes:
><< even though i will probably have to take a cold shower after typing this
>here goes: >>
>then he transcribes an amy ray soc.......
>...any wonder why straight married ladies feel faint in her presence ?????
>holy moley.
>yik nib

actually mrs. binky, that was pj(hoopie) who made the comment and
transcribed the soc, but i couldn't have said it *better* myself ;) that is
*the* hottest piece of poetry i've ever read, and if that ain't poetry,
well.... just call me dumb and happy in
houston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

a&e=ig

folkisgruven (sorry lorindigo ;)

i       tony "the chickenman" @:-} -- houston, tx               g
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d       when kindness falls like rain                           r
i       it washes me away....                                   l
g                               counting crows                  s
o

        hey y'all--
i haven't posted in forever.....anyway, i was at my high school dance last
night and my friends and i decided to request indigo girls (we do this at
every dance, but for some reason, our request never gets filled 8)  so my one
friend asked the dj if he would play some and he said he was saving it for
later....getting somewhat excited, i went up to the guy again , later and
requested that he play some indigo girls.  this is what he said,
"i can't, i'm sorry, but i can't play that.  too much profanity."
me: "the ig?!?!"
him: "yeah, what you hear on the radio is not always on the lp, one profanity
and i'm out of hear."
me: "you can't even play lc?"
him:"nope"
me: "how about galileo?"
him: "maybe."
i found this conversation extremely hilarious, considering that he had been
playing rap music all night long, and some profane words had slipped out.  he
just made me mad...he should have just said no because i wouldn't classify
the girls as being profane.....
laughing,
lauren

okay, to clear up any confusion about the penn state show...

i am on the psu concert committee, and we have a sheryl crow concert here
tomorrow night (monday).  it's our usual policy not to announce any future
shows until after ones that are sooner, as it can affect ticket sales.  the
indigo girls are coming here, but i'm not sure when they'll announce it,
maybe tuesday or wednesday.  as for a ticket date, i can't say that for
sure either (the president and chair are the only ones that know this
stuff), but if i find out first, i'll post it.  i can't wait...after a
number of unexciting shows (fugees...etc), i finally get to meet somebody i
really really like.  i hope lots of you can make it!  if you have any
questions, email me personally, and i'll do my best to answer them!   :)

mike

p.s. if anyone asks, i didn't tell you this...it's still "hush hush" here...

mike eppinger
mce116@psu.edu
www: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/towers/9228

fingermarked skin, hurt to the bone
we don't understand
oh, my princess, answer please
i'll get the pencils
we'll draw ourselves a new world.

p. fitzgerald, kod.

in a message dated 97-02-16 22:34:58 est, you write:

<< i was *very*
disappointed when i heard this, but chiapas didn't make the final
cut.. >>

please don't be true! say it ain't so!

-elizabeth, who's pretty darned tired right now

hi y'all

da chickenamn said:

<< ok folks - this looks like the "right" interpretation sent to me by pj
(thanks :) i left two notations though for possible consideration??
>>

it actually was not my interpretation.  i printed out the interpretation that
was :*( on the indizone web page last fall.  so the other day i typed it out
for the chickenman cause he is wise and dirty from the weather and very sweet
to boot.  :*)

i will never grow tired of listening to that
soc...............*sigh*.......even though i am not straight, but my straight
friends like it, too.

soggy peace and carrots (from too many cold showers lately)
pj (sans little black dress that greta so graciously let me borrow)

"i said love what will breathe eternally? what can i leave you? what part of
me? what will breathe eternally?"...............ar

i saw something the other day on the tube about this. some hollywood insider
chick said that disney and abc had already approved a script, and the episode
in question was supposed to air april 21st. so now what? who do we believe?

dying of anticipation

dawn

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hullooo!!!

can anyone help out with the following?

1) did anyone ever boot the bread & roses benefit at alcatraz last year -
the one with the girls, dar williams and joan baez....i would love to get my
ears on a copy of that....can offer some tasty trades...

2) i'm covering one cool remove at a gig in a couple of weeks time - but, i
can't make out those whispery bits that mary chapin does over the verse..any
ideas?

ta verrily,

seffy
(who thinks it is quite amusing that i manage a department called epicentre
and the official ig website is at epiccenter...)

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hey crunch n' munches!

first of all, anyone besides me wanna see the harder side of sears?

okay, on to business. happy audre' lord's birthday y'all! if you wanna know who
audre' lord is, besides my shero, write me....or check out various websites
with her stuff on it (she's a badass, obviously, but also a poet and author and
activist). she died five years ago from cancer and i miss her.

anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that recognize a
woman?

okay, enough proselytizin'. i really wanted to know where ms. maggie got her
info about the new ig album....it's not that i am skeptical about what you
wrote , maggie, i'm always just interested in sources. so, the suspense is
killin us! pleeze pleeze tell!

we will rock you,
susanna

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<anal rant>
ok, i have held this in for years and i just can't do it anymore.  band
de soleil is incorrect french grammer.  it should be band du soleil if
soleil is masculine and band de la soleil if it's feminine, i believe.
so i am glad they broke up.  thank you.
</anal rant>

margaret

on sun, 16 feb 1997, maggie poulos wrote:

> concerning michelle, the album is going to be released in june...it is no
> longer a band de soleil effort, it will be a solo mm album with tracks from
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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        i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we should be
upset that it is not going to be on the album?
        also does anyone know when tickets will go on sale for the concert
at american?
                                                                thanks,

amy

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hey!

exactly how many "amy's" and "emily's" do we have on this list? has anyone
ever asked?
joni :o)

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hey y'all--

long time no post--i've been incredibly busy, but i had to share my excitement! i've met another ig fan! i haven't really met any here at uf (partially due to my limited social life) until now. i told her all about the list, and think she may be joining. her name is casey, and she is very cool--and single, by the way, so any of you women out there who might be interested..... she's very cute and witty and, as you can tell by her choice in music, very cool!

now that i have a friend to share ig with in person, my life is ever so much better......

-rich (sbmfc charter member and official mentor)
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it's a downright, outrageous shame
so let it be known from the west coast to the east that today is
hereby declared susan b. marine day (hmm, susan b. marine, susan b.
anthony - those susan b. girls have got it going on) ;)

for being a fearless and undaunting leader through confusing and
dark times on the list

and for taping me las cruces
got home from work friday afternoon, it was waiting for me in the
mailbox, and from then on it was a rockin' weekend!! (i gladly pissed the neighbors off)
thank you very, very much susan!!!!!!!!!
:)
kim

in a message dated 97-02-17 10:34:19 est, amy wrote:

<< i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we should be
upset that it is not going to be on the album? >>

personally...i'm not so upset....it needs *something* in my opinion.

yik nib

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>at 08:27 am 2/17/97 est, suzie badass wrote:

>>anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that recognize a
>>woman?
>

an interesting question, though the answer may have something to do with the
number of men vs. women in the house and in congress...anyway, its a day off
so i'm not complaining..except when big wigs from work email you on a
holiday and need answers by tomorrow morning and you have to stop eating
doritos and playing "hide and seek" online with the lone coyote long enough
to get the damn answers....but i'm not complaining...

joni :o)

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hey, if today is susan b. marine day, let's all take the day off!!
;)
tlc

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on mon, 17 feb 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

>
> >>anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that recognize a
> >>woman?
> >
(ducking)

oh yeah? what about valentine's day?

or sweetest day?

8-)

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i'm going to be there for the women's final four. i'm having problems
finding a hotel. any help would be appreciated. :)

lisa
lisa nordeen
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university of minnesota, morris
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"i made a bad connection, she says i went astray.  i jumped ship, abandoned
my post, i didn't think i lost my way.  oh how the mighty fall.  you know, i
saw her crack a smile.  i don't got a chance for redemption.  she don't
believe in the miracle mile."
-amy ray

if anybody has any information about when the tickets go on sale for the
hofstra concert, can you please email me privately with the info.

thanks
mindala

hey y'all!  not much action on the list lately, hm?  we're suddenly all
quiet?!?  anyhow, i've been sort of bored today, so i figured out the chords
for dgtgag . . . and, what the hey, might as well post it!  also, you can be
proud, because i've never figured out a whole song by myself before.  thank
you, thank you . . . oh, and thanks to veronica and sundara, for providing
the boots i took this from.  8-)p

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don't give that girl a gun --- by amy ray

(each chord 2 measures)

(intro)
csus2 g/b a5 cmaj7 x 2

(verse)
    csus2
        she's got a case against me
    g/b
         a jury of my peers
     a5
         and the rage of the righteous
     cmaj7
         screaming in her ears
     csus2
         i'm not dignified anymore
     g/b
         can't say i didn't call
      a5
         when i say i love you
      cmaj7
         she don't hear me anymore

(chorus)
      c                                    am
         and don't give that girl a gun
      c                             am
         don't give that girl a gun
                f                          g
         she's already won, she's already won

(verse)
         i made a bad connection
         she says i went astray
         i jumped ship, abandoned my post
         i didn't think i lost my way
(verse)
         oh how the mighty fall
         you know i saw her crack a smile
         i don't got a chance for redemption
         she don't believe in the miracle mile

(bridge)
       f
         take the first shot baby it'll be real clean
      g
         i'm your girl, strong and mean.
       f                                                               g
         take the second shot baby it'll be real cold, because i'm your foe.
(chorus)
         and don't give that girl a gun
         i said don't give that girl a gun
         she's already won, she's already won
(verse)
         i said hold me closer
         cause something's happening
         why can't we come together
         she said i doubt we ever will, ever will again
(chorus)
         i said, don't give that girl a gun
         i said now, don't give that girl a gun
         oh she's already won, she's already won
(bridge)
         take the first shot baby it'll be real clean
         cause i'm your girl, strong and mean.
         take the second shot baby it'll be real cold, because i'm your foe
(chorus)
         i said now, don't give that girl a gun
         i said now, don't give that girl a gun
         she's already won, she's already won

(outro)
c am c am f g c [tacet]

csus2 x2302x g/b x3002x a5 xx22xx cmaj7 320xxx
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at 04:26 pm 2/17/97 -0500, drew vogel wrote:
>on mon, 17 feb 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:
>
>>
>> >>anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that recognize a
>> >>woman?
>> >
>(ducking)
>
>oh yeah? what about valentine's day?
>
>or sweetest day?
>
>8-)

dear mr. vogel (start ducking):

i, joan m. cyr, did not write the aforementioned statement regarding no us
holidays that recognize women.  the credit of that statement goes to the
great and wunnerful <grin> susan b. marine.  you better start running.
she's coming after you...
please be sure you are flaming (albeit a little fire) the right person.
thanks.  back to our regularly scheduled programming.
joni :o)

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well kim hobbs asked for the impossible
and i tried to meet the challenge!!
low fat scones were the quest, and i
found what sounds like a good recipe

emial privately if you want it
kim, i already sent you yours :)
happy eating!
anj

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well, uh...<ducking, too>

we don't get a day off but they should:)

what about mother's day:):)

i know, i know, women shouldn't be judged by there ability rto make babiesbut, well, it is a day:):)
<ducks>
selena

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hey kind friends~~

        i stayed in touch with our strange hungarian poster from a few weeks
ago.  his name is karesz (charles) palkovics, he's 18 and in computer school
in budapest, hungary, and he'd like to hear some ig's.  so i thought i'd
oblige him.
        just wonderin' though if anyone knows if a standard us cassette tape
will be the same format for europe/hungary.  anyone have an inkling?? mat,
anna, sara, maren, wenguang, anyone??

hello tony!

>would you like for me to send you a cassette tape of indigo girls
>music to listen to?
>you do not have to send me anything, but if you want to send me some
>of your music that would be great!
>send me your mailing address if you want me to send you some indigo
>girls music - okay?

i'm only 18 , so i'm a student --> i haven't too much money! so i
have a question : who will pay the post-cost ? if you , then i like
to send that tape-casette! thank you very much!

my mailing address is : <deleted>
karesz

thanks y'all, thanks y'all
tony

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at 10:25 am 2/17/97 -0500, alcapi wrote:
> i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we
should be
>upset that it is not going to be on the album?

oh no, that's *terrible news*!!! this isn't some mean-spirited prank is
it??? :o

when will get out the map 2 be out, prey tell??

tony <distraught and moanin'> :*(

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your addy dint work..
send it again wouldya?
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on mon, 17 feb 1997, the goddess susan b. marine wrote:

> anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that recognize a
> woman?

what about mother's day? my mom is just thrilled that they named a
national holiday after her... ;)

anna (sbmfc member)

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is trying to please everybody." -bill cosby

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on mon, 17 feb 1997, amy <alcapi@mail.wm.edu>

> i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we should be
> upset that it is not going to be on the album?

it took me a while to appreciate this song 'cause the subject didn't
seem to have much relevance to me as far as where i am right now in
my life (poor third year college student), but the music just blows
me away every time. gives me the shivers just thinking about it. :)

anna

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in a message dated 97-02-17 10:34:16 est, amy writes:

<<   i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we should
be
upset that it is not going to be on the album?
         also does anyone know when tickets will go on sale for the concert
at american?
                                                                 thanks,

amy
>>

as far as i know the only source i have heard (officially) for the name of
the new ig album is emily "map" and amy "ucking ig" (teehee) from the epic
video. april 29th is 71 days away. boooohoo! thank the maker and this list
for boots!!!!!!!!!! i dont know how else i would make it through.

on chiapas bound amy hits notes that are very low. this would be my favorite
vocalizing that amy does if she hadn't performed in jcsr and i quote "and i
think i shall sleep well tonight, let the world turn without me tonight".
that is the wav. file i hear when i exit windows. i think chiapas bound is
beautiful and i will be disappointed if it is not on map.

ttfn
pj

"amy ray, pretty good for a girl" .......e. saliers

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hello...

i was wondering...are the girls only playing at colleges this time
around?  they are playing at calvin college in grand rapids, and
tickets are $20 for non-students.  is this the typical price?  i attend
another university in the area (grand valley state).  they only problem
is, it may sell out before the general public get a chance to buy
tickets.  also, are they adding any more shows in the summer, or is
this my only time to see them?  it just seems strange that they are
playing at such a conservative school.  anyway...any response is
appreciated...is anyone from the list going?  love aim

hey are playing at calvin
in grand rapids, and tickets are $20 for non-

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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
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hi everyone....

okay, i think i posted before, but it never showed up in my mail, so i don't
know if it showed up in your mail, and i have another question now, so this
is totally irrelevant, so anyway....there is a date posted on the sony ig site
listing the girls as being at lasalle university in philly pa on 4/20, burt
uh, that was supposed to be but but i can't type...anyway, but it is not on
the pollstar concert listing. anyone have any info?????? please?????

btw, i think as far as amy's low notes go, the song "nine fingers" on the
new mongrels cd is pretty awesome, imo. and jcs goes without saying....

thanks and happy mondays,
amyk

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> > i just have a question what is so special about chiapas that we should be
> > upset that it is not going to be on the album?

the first time i heard this song it immediately became my favorite and i
knew then that my then girlfriend would soon be an ex-. (i was right.)
so i think this song is the ultimate in break-up songs and that is why so
many of us can relate to it so well.

margaret

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i was listening to honor today, and i suspect that the rusted root song
on the first cd (i forget the name) was in thelma and louise...  my guess
is in the bar scene, while they're drinking..  it also could be during
the chase scene.  the part that jogged my memory was at about 3:00 if you
want to go listen.

so, does anyone have the cd? can you check? anyone else think this
sounds familiar?

margaret, who thinks _she_ is a badass for making this connection and for
withstanding no less than 20 flames about band de (f'ing) soleil today.

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at 01:29 pm 2/15/97 -0500, you wrote:
>marc = minimal amy ray content ;)

hey mrs. binky~

you were not the only one who saw patti smith on dave ;)

>so patti did indeed do a "gushy" love song on letterman last night ;)

i wouldn't call_who do you love_a *gushy* love song though :o

i also noticed that at the end of the song patti said something along the
lines of "you have to respect yourself, love one another" or something to
that effect. i know that's pretty general, but it reminded me of sf.

the first and second times i saw ig's was on dave's show. what ago dave :)
...rock on!!!!

18 days and counting til the galveston, tx - ig list party!!!! yeeee-haaaaaw ;)

tony~
the chicken maestro

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sorry, i know there was/were post(s) about this subject, but i have a
hyperactive delete finger...anyone with info on the penn state or othere
pennsylvania tour dates, could you please mail me privately? like, where
exactly is penn state (im in ohio), when do tix go on sale, price, etc.
thanks a mil!

amyk

>okay, on to business. happy audre' lord's birthday y'all!

in light of it being audre lorde's b-day, i thought i would share a poem
she wrote, which happens to be my favorite poem ever. love love love it.
she is a goddess.

some of you obssessed-types (not me-heh heh heh) might recognize a couple
lines being quoted by amy in the liner notes to nis.

for each of you

be who you are and will be
learn to cherish
that boisterous black angel that drives you
up one day and down another
protecting the place where your power rises
running like hot blood
from the same source
as your pain.

when you are hungry
learn to eat
whatever sustains you
until morning
but do not be misled by details
simply because you live them.

do not let your head deny
your hands
any memory of what passes through them
nor your eyes nor your heart
everything can be used
except what is wasteful
(you will need to remember this
when you are accused of destruction).
even when they are dangerous
examine the heart of those machines
which you hate
before you discard them
but do not mourn their lack of power
lest you be condemned
to relive them.

if you do not learn to hate
you will never be lonely
enough to live easily
nor will you always be brave
although it does not grow any easier.

do not pretend to convenient beliefs
even when they are righteous
you will never be able to defend your city
while shouting

remember our sun
is not the most noteworthy star
only the nearest.

respect whatever pain you bring back
from your dreaming
but do not look for new gods
in the sea
nor in any part of a rainbow.

each time you love
love as deeply
as if it were
forever
only nothing is
eternal.

speak proudly to your children
where ever you may find them
tell them
you are the offspring of slaves
and your mother was
a princess
in darkness.

(1970)

love,
sundara

"look dad, a rope!" -amy ray

ok...now that i have started my ig boot collection, i have a question for all
of you well-established collectors:
how do you organize your ig stuff?  do keep it with the rest of your music?
(i somehow doubt it!)  display it on a seperate shelf or other surface?  any
actual shrines?  i'm just curious...right now i have mine in a drawer but i
kind of feel bad hiding them away in there, you know?  also, in what order do
you arrange your boots?  i guess by year makes the most sense but you never
know what brilliant ideas people can come up with.  :-)
anyway, i'm just curious to see how everyone deals with this crucial issue...
have a great day!
love,
jessica

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seffy,
i put shawn colvin's cover girl into my cd-rom drive, turned it up all
the way, put my headphones on and held them close to my ears. here is
what i think mary chapin carpenter says in one cool remove:

-----
put me
put me there

from the things that hurt me
from the sea, and the city

like a buddhist, grieving
since all is fleeting
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margaret:
i thought the same thing about band de soleil but then i thought it's
probably correct in cajun french, which is a distinctly different dialect.

                andrea crain *** internet: acrain@knox.edu
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ok, i don't know if this is the correct place to write this too, but i
checked all over the web and this was the best i could come up with...i
have heard that ig are touring. i know that they will be in michigan at
the end of march, but my question is are they going to madison wisconsin
and/or chicago. any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

melissa flynn
msflynn@students.wisc.edu

for yyyyaaaaa'llls informaaation...tommorrow
is national estrogen day !!!!!!!!!

....rrrrroooowwwwllllllll......

where everybody (including boys) is required to dress
up like eartha kitt (as catwoman:).

and siiing " what a difference a day maaakes "
(twentyfour little hours...)
whilst doing the 'cat dance' around the national penis.....opps...i mean

monument (...of course...) in our nations capital !

see you there !
luv ! *smack*
yiknib

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ok, i see your points, margaret and whoever else wrote about this.
but, ok, what about if they're saying that they're a "sun band" rather than
a "band of the sun," know what i mean?  plus, they're probably just french
illiterates that just wanted to sound cool, since there's that damn
lotion called ban de soleil, isn't there???  or is it just in some
jingle on a commercial??  ok, i admit, i'm somewhat a product of the media...

just thought i'd share...
lesley

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on mon, 17 feb 1997 mmedido@aol.com wrote:

> for yyyyaaaaa'llls informaaation...tommorrow
> is national estrogen day !!!!!!!!!
>
at this point i must disagree. i heard at school that tomorrow is orange
recognition day. it's a day to honor the color least represented in our
society today, so everybody get out there and wear orange tomorrow, and if
you've got estrogen, you may as well flaunt it as well

~o~    "you can choose what you give, you can choose what you take,
-=|=-   make love in your living, live the love that you make..."
/_\                            --carrie newcomer
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i also have a scone recipe, albeit a fatty one. it is in us measurements,
but is literally the best recipe i have ever run across--and i have tried
many, hoping that some one else knows the secret. . .

deirdre

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maybe by the time this gets to the list there will already be 20 other
msgs saying th same thing but...

> since there's that damn
> lotion called ban de soleil, isn't there??? or is it just in some
> jingle on a commercial?? ok, i admit, i'm somewhat a product of the media...

when mm and her band were trying to come up with a name, she saw a thing
of ban de soleil suntan lotion and said "let's be band de soleil." yes,
i'm paraphrasing, but i remember hearing the explanation right after they
decided on their name. i think it was supposed to be a joke, but everyone
seems to have taken it seriously. *shrug*
that's all i know.
julie

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the suggestions of mother's day as "women's holidays" seem to be a little
annoying.  i mean, it is great that we get to recognize all of the hard
work that our mothers go through for us, but my mother always pointed out
that it was a really hypocritical holiday.  she remembers when she was a
kid and all of the mothers would get flowers at church and there would be a
mother's day sermon and then her mother would go home and fix sunday
dinner.  even if the family makes dinner for the family, my mother points
out that mothers get appreciated one day and then they go back to their
mothering duties without getting any recognition again until the next may.
my mother is a bit cynical, i know, and my sister and i still do little
things for her, but we have found that it is even more fun to do randomly
nice things for our mother throughout the year.  kind of like valentine's:
it is more fun to be randomly romantic all of the time than to have to do
it on one day.  that is why my girlfriend and i took a lonely friend to
dinner on valentine's.

deirdre

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on mon, 17 feb 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

> ....need answers by tomorrow morning and you have to stop eating
> doritos and playing "hide and seek" online with the lone coyote long enough
> to get the damn answers....but i'm not complaining...
>
heehee! coming out of hiding long enough to blush...
:) tlc

p.s.  i saw 2 of my friends walk by when i was having lunch on the quad
today and all of a sudden one of their flannel shirts moved and there it
was, the power of 2 logo on her chest, yes it was the ig list shirt.  and
i said, "hey, that's the list shirt."  and she said, "yeah."  and i said,
"i have one of those.  i'm on that.  are you still on that?"  and she said
not recently but she was probably going to join again.  her name is
heather and we decided that in honor of the fact that we now know there
are 2 listees in the city of arcata, ca we are going to have a list
gathering...whoohooo!  and i don't have to drive 600 miles to get to it!

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who cares if it is bad french---it was damn good music!!!!!
sorry, i love miss malone!!!

hi y'all

for those of you last december/january who responded to my post regarding the
ig quilt.  i have not forgotten.  i have been trying to decide,with a little
help from my friends (hello, sundara sweetie), and now i think i know good
measurement for the ig quilt.  if you did not here about this post i am
attaching a copy.  if you find that you are interested and want to know the
patch sizes please e-mail me personally.  for those of you who have already
responded expect an e-mail from me in a few days with quilt patch sizes.  if
anyone in the pnw area knows someone with a quilt designing computer program
please let me know.  i am also going to be possibly looking for anyone who
could lend me a sewing machine since i no longer own one.

thanks everyone
pj

"this is a message, message of love, love that moves from the inside out,
love that never grows tired, i come to you with strange fire.......... a ray

ig quilt part 1:

i have been trying for years to find a way to thank a&e for all of the gifts
i receive from their music and the examples of their lives. i have seen
people make individual quilt squares/patches and someone sew them together
then they give it to the person they are honoring.

wouldnt it be cool for all of the fans (not only list fans, but, any other
fans we know) to make a quilt for them. we could have two patch sizes:

large for groups - like if an area (example-pnw) wants to have a party and
make a large quilt patch.

small - for individuals.

on the back it could say something like "thanks y'all, we love you."

i want to organize this.  i am going to try and make sure they get it
personally.  going through the fan club does not feel like an option.
so what do you think?  could this be cool or what?

ig quilt part 2:

hello,

i have been receiving feedback from people about not knowing how to sew.
when we figure out the best measurement for each size then all you have to
do is:

buy fabric that size and use fabric paints and paint whatever you want.  i
think that would be great.  that is probably what i want to do 'cause i have
more painting experience than sewing.  i think the size of the patches are
going to depend on the amount of response.  if you are interested in this
quilt please e-mail me personally.

thanks alot
pj

ig quilt part 3:

hello,

more quilt stuff.  everyone is wanting to do something positive for the
community with this quilt project.  so i am wondering if we could possibly
have everyone who makes a quilt patch (if they want to) donate a blanket or
some blankets (or even$) to their nearest shelter on a&e's behalf.  the quilt
itself will be more of an art piece instead of a functional blanket.  how
does that sound???  thanks for the ideas.

peace
pj

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on mon, 17 feb 1997, kim rhoades wrote:

> <anyone besides me wanna know why there are no us holidays that
> recognize a woman?>
>
> it's a downright, outrageous shame
> so let it be known from the west coast to the east that today is
> hereby declared susan b. marine day (hmm, susan b. marine, susan b.
> anthony - those susan b. girls have got it going on) ;)
>
> for being a fearless and undaunting leader through confusing and
> dark times on the list
>
<chop>

why not make this an international holiday so us folks in the uk can have
a day off too? (if it's a tuesday so much the better, cos i've got all
my classes on a tuesday :( ).

mat

well, i came back from amsterdam last night, so after getting over
the coach trip (eight hours, sitting on a coach, each way, with
absolutely no leg room whatsoever - ugh!), and getting the rest of
my life in order, i think i can finally talk about it....

first, yes i did visit the anne frank museum. i think the one thing
that struck me about the place was that, when i was walking through
it, i felt incredibly close to anne and what she must have felt like
living there and what she must have gone through. after i'd been
through the house, the only thing i could think of was the ig song
"virginia woolf", and what emily sings about the connection through
time to another person, even though you will never meet them.

i also went to a place called the bjeginhoff (i probably spelt that
totally wrong, but it's difficult enough to pronounce, never mind
spell), in an area of amsterdam called the spui, and it was one of
the most peaceful and beautiful areas i hav ever been in (along with
hyde park in london), and it was amazing to find out how quiet it
was, and it had a little church in the centre of the courtyard, with
beautiful singing coming out of it (i didn't go in the church - i
didn't want to disturb them).

on saturday night, i ate at a place called the "pancake bakery", and
i had an american pancake, which had chicken, peppers, sweetcorn,
and lots of other great stuff in it, a dame blanche (a pudding with
chocolate and vanilla ice cream, whipped cream, hot chocolate sauce
and loads of small nuts and stuff on top), and both of those were
really nice and tasty *mmmmm....*

i know i missed out on a lot this weekend, although i have been
catching up this morning, but i hope anybody who wants to write to
me does it soon, because i'm going to berlin on thursday......

john.

"did you hear me say,
each life has it's place...."

ig, virginia woolf

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hello everyone,

i think i remember a while back someone posted a web site address for the
newport folk fest. if anyone has it could you e-mail it to me privately.
svamvas@vt.edu thanks

stacey

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for anyone interested in looking back over what's gone over this list
since rites of passage, there are two sites which contain digests of the
lists, one from 1992-4 when it was run by stephen spencer (who still
maintains the folkbook site), and the other from july 1995 to the present.

the 1992-4 site:
ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/indigo/digests//

the 1995-7 site:
http://www.netspace.org/users/listserv/archive/indigo-girls

however, there is another period, namely between january 1994 and july
1995, when the list was at a site called mese.org (?) and run by a
different list operator, and there doesn't seem to be any archive of this
period at all. does anyone know what became of the list during this
time, and if there is any record of digests etc?

mat

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from: d. wesley atwood <dwatwood@delphi.com>
subject: crd:i don't want to talk about it - indigo girls

i got the cd to the "philadelphia" soundtrack the other day and came up
with this for indigo's "i don't want to talk about it". i think the
chords and lyrics are right but i didn't bother with a lot of details.
listen to the cd - you'll figure it out. anyway...

i don't want to talk about it
indigo girls, off "philadelphia" soundtrack cd

a     x02220
a*    577655
asus  x02230
bm    x24432
c#m   446654
e     022100
f#    244322

bm e asus a
i can tell by your eyes that you've probably been crying forever
bm e asus a
and the stars in the sky don't mean nothin' to you - they're a mirror

chorus:
bm                e
   i don't want to talk about it
a*         c#m       f#
   how you broke my heart
bm                       e
   if i stay here just a little bit longer
bm                          e            bm    e   asus    a
   if i stay here won't you listen to my heart, my heart

if i stand all alone
will the shadows hide the color of my heart
nights we spent apart
and the stars don't mean nothin' to you
they're a mirror...

chorus:
bm                e
   i don't want to talk about it
a*         c#m       f#
   how you broke my heart
bm                          e            asus    a
   if i stay here won't you listen to my heart

chorus, etc.

i'm playing a barred a at the fifth fret in the chorus (a*) 'cause
it seems easier to progress to the next chord. it changes the sound
a little but you can use a garden-variety a chord if you like.

post to the group or email me if you have corrections/comments!

wes
a.k.a. dwatw@geog.utah.edu
dwatwood@delphi.com

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joking (amy ray)
----------------
[the net result of all the instruments is g em7 c(9) d, which you can
play as 320033 022033 x32033 x00232, but actually, amy just plays
g em c d, or 320003 022000 x32010 x00232. in other words, amy never
plays the d variations; that's emily's part, way up high on the neck.]

g em7 c(9) d g em7 c(9) dsus-d-d(9)-d
[intro]

g em7
you said the world was magic, i was wide-eyed and laughing

c(9) d
we were dancing up to the bright side

g em7
forget about your ego, forget about your pride

c(9) d d
and you will never have to compromise

g em7 c(9) dsus-d-d(9)-d
and you were only joking, you were only joking, brother

we talked about our mothers, kissed the wounds of our fathers
i could've been your sister, i would've been your brother
you kissed me like i was a soldier headed for war
i'm a dying man, but i don't know what for [stop]

g em7 c(9) d
and you were only joking, you were only joking, brother

               g               em7                 c(9)                      d
you were only joking,                     you were only joking,       brother
                      (wide-eyed and laughing)                  (dancing...)

g em7 c(9) d g em7 c(9) d g em7 c(9) d
[guitar solo]

gravel and glass on the bottom of my feet
i bruised my heels on the swollen street
we were girls in bars, boys on the town
bumping like a pinball off a careless crowd

you said good friends are hard to come by
i laughed and bought you a beer, it's too corny to cry
well, sentiment given or sentiment lost
you shake it off with a smirk and a toss [stop]

g em7 c(9) d
and you were only joking, you were only joking, brother

g em7 c(9) d
you were only joking, you were only joking, brother

                   g                 em7               c(9)             d
and you were only joking,               you were only joking, brother
                   (gravel and glass...)         (i bruised my heels...)

          g                        em7               c(9)             d
you were joking,                      you were only joking, brother
    (you kissed me like a soldier...)         (i'm a dying man...)

                   g           em7                        c(9)          d
and you were only joking,                  you were only joking, brother
                    (...dying man, but i don't know what for...)

d d [stop]
and you were only, and you were only, and you were only

g em7 c(9) dsus-d-d(9)-d g [stop] n.c.
joking, brother one two three four...

g em7 c(9) d g em7 c(9) d
[instrumental]

g em7 c(9) d
sha-la, sha-la, sha-la, sha-la

g                   em7          c(9)                    d
sha-la,             sha-la,      sha-la,                 sha-la
    (wide-eyed and laughing)         (dancing up to the bright side)

[repeat and fade]

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

hey,
i am a new member of the list and i love reading.  i am interested in
starting my own boot collection.  i have none to trade, but i am willing to
send out blank tapes.  anybody interested in helping me??? any
recomendations???  also i am picking up my ig tickets today for the hofstra
show.  i am so excited i can hardly contain myself.  thats all for now....

mindala

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deirdre lynch wrote:
>
> the suggestions of mother's day as "women's holidays" seem to be a little
> annoying.

"i know, i know, women shouldn't be judged by there ability to make babies but, well, it is a day"

i did write this. and you are right, they deserve much more recognition than that, but it happens.
i didn't plan it.

i love my mother, i want to haev children, too.

selena

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halleluia.....i've got tickets to my first ever ig show!!!!

i can't wait... i'm counting the days.

i've got a couple of questions for ya'll:

all you experienced ga concert goers.... have any suggestions
as to what time we should show up for good seats? the concert
is scheduled to start at 8 pm and its a sunday.

do the girls generally do autographs after the show? is it worthwhile
hanging out for them to leave?

does anyone know the phys ed center at hofstra.... where would
the be coming and/or going from?

last but not least.... any one else going to this concert want to
meet up either before or after? i live only about 20-30 mins from
the venue and would be willing to host a party... or, even better,
there's
a local gay bar near my home we can hang out in afterwards,
play pool and talk about the girls drink some beers....
they even have rites of passage on the juke box.

email me if interested.....

and note, i will be taking monday off so be prepared to party late....

peace, love, & all things indigo,              _________
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jo                                                  \       /
jmelnik@lucent.com                                 \    /
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"the best thing you've ever done for me
is to help me take my life less seriously;
it's only life after all."   -- emily saliers

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im new to the list and am very interested in getting any and all info on
the following:
im dying to see the ig's in philadelphia on 4/19 at lasalle but have no
idea how to get tickets. i called lasalle college directly and as far as
they know nothing is confirmed for them playing there... the lady said
that when it is confirmed, it will most likely be just an event for
their college community...any truth to that?
also, any way to get tickets to the d.c. show at american university on
4/20?
any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
thank you... lauren

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kristin mcitnosh-to m_c_0182@mtsu.edu.

i would love some information on the latest concerts in the nashville
area.

thank you!

hi all,
i was just wondering if the girls announced any tour dates at all, even
college ones. i see all this talk of hofstra and penn but i don't know
were you are all getting this info. i want to know the secret!
please e-mail me privately so i can start planning my life around the
concerts.
much appreciated
erika

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> date:    sun, 16 feb 1997 10:02:26 -0500
> from:    renee landrum <slandrum@sophia.smith.edu>
> subject: re: chickenman's message of love
>
> on sat, 15 feb 1997, da chickenman wrote:
>
> > feet lying dead in the middle of a wood growing up like trillion on the
> >                                                         {trillium?}
>
> trillium. it's a three-petaled flower....

and it grows on the forest floor.

tom

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wow...the responses for black bean receipes that i offered have been
overwhelming. i will get them to all of ya'll, but it may be a few days.
my computer that i use is at work and i have 6,000 brochures to send by
friday for my graduate assistantship. thus, i'm a little busy currently.
take care and i will respond as soon as possible.
cn

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on tue, 18 feb 1997, john bond wrote:
>
> on saturday night, i ate at a place called the "pancake bakery", and
> i had an american pancake, which had chicken, peppers, sweetcorn,
> and lots of other great stuff in it, a dame blanche (a pudding with
> chocolate and vanilla ice cream, whipped cream, hot chocolate sauce
> and loads of small nuts and stuff on top), and both of those were
> really nice and tasty *mmmmm....*

am i missing something? how come they don't have american pancakes like
that in america?

~8-o marianne

~o~    "you can choose what you give, you can choose what you take,
-=|=-    make love in your living, live the love that you make..."
/_\                            --carrie newcomer
((

wow!  i had an indigoie day!  i was in harvard square, just hanging out with
my friend.  (we missed mel gibson!  dang!)  moving right along, i had this 15
dollar gift certificate to tower burnin' a hole in my pocket <g>, so my
friend and i popped into the little pathetic excuse for a tower records, and
i was searching for something to buy.  nothing, nothing, nothing . . . so,
we're about to leave to go get lunch, and, suddenly, i see there's an
upstairs.  i go bounding up leaving my friend calling out "hey!  what?"  i
get up there, and what do i see: jesus christ superstar!  but it's the real
one . . . dang!  i turn.  gasp of joy!  jcs: a resurrection!!!!  for no less
than $15.  my gift certifcate was perfect!  i grinned from ear to ear!

so, moving on, moving on . . . we go to lunch at the border cafe.  i order a
cheese and green chile enchilada and guess what?  it came with a side of
black beans and rice!!!  was today not the greatest day?  i'd never eaten
those before, but i loved them!

next we headed to a book store.  looked through some poetry books, and there
was pablo neruda.  my mom's got a book of his odes, but here was a book of
love-type poems for a very low price.  and right now i am so in love . . . it
was perfect, 'specially since i remembered emily liked him.  = 0 ) :::+  also
picked up the complete known works of sappho.  and me's brave and crazy.

so, today rocked.

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * *
"you've got the wrong man, lady."

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

* * * * * * * * * *

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hey kind friends~

i was a very fortunate one today cause i got *6* new boots in the mail!!
many thanks to sue k., kirsten, and carolyn s. !!!! i also got an
autographed (by amy and emily, of course) rop cd today! thanks rob.

        thanks to the many kind folks who responded to my query on cassette
tape formats.  guess what folks, cassette tapes are universal it appears.
yipppeee!!
so, karesz will be getting his first ig boot shortly.  i will keep you all
posted as to his response :)

ig's are gettin' ready to tour again. can i, can i get, can i get
an....
amen!!!!

the mixed tape loop is getting ready to liftoff. what a wizard that
amy sanders is, huh?? and thanks to all who helped her organize it :)

i just got word of pj's idea of the quilt for our girls.... let the
love wave flow baby ;)

        the galveston, texas ig list party is t-minus 17 days and counting.
there are still a few choice spots on the floor if anyone's still interested
in coming ;)
btw 2 guests will be arriving from ok city (a mere 510 miles each way, with
others coming from new orleans and baton rouge (405 and 325 miles
repectively).  guests representing texas will include folks from austin,
houston, beaumont, and san antonio.
we might not be the biggest in terms of absolute numbers on the list, but
well, we *really* know how to party!!!  come one, come all! @:-}

anj, margot lissa laidacker, mat, binky, pj, amy s., and last, but
certainly not least, jude shabry -- y'all rock my world!!!!!

peace, love, and hope to everyone~
tony

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subject:      concert dates i think

surfing the web i found this,
but i'm sure everyone knows these concert dates already.

3-13-97 south hadley, ma chapin theatre
3-16-97 hempstead, ny hofstra
3-26-97 grand rapids, mi calvin college
3-28-97 davenport, la great river hall
4-12-97 durham, nh univ. of new hampshire
4-13-97 waterville, me colby college
4-15-97 univ. park, pa recreation hall
4-17-97 norton, ma wheaton college

i also looked up lasalle u. but they don't update their info very often :->
here is where i got it from,
http://pollstar.com/pssearch.exe/tartist?indigo+girls

"your actions will follow you full circle round" a. ray

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a few days ago someone brought up a very interesting question that i
myself had wondered for quite a while...
what in the world are amy's and emily's middle names???
despite the thousands of things ive read about them, ive never stumbled
upon an answer...
anyone out there know?
-lauren

hey, can anyone set me up with a boot that contains the song that will
not be on the next album????

thanks!!!
elaine r.

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thanks to mat for posting the archive urls.

so....i went back and skimmed through some of the archives and it was
weird.  i felt kinda like i was spying or something....do y'all *realize*
that what you post is being archived and is technically accessible to the
world?  we wonder about how amy and emily would feel reading some of this
stuff, but i think the odder thing is the possibility of our own friends
discovering these now-permanent bits of us.  i know i weirded out carolyn
and karey last week when i mentioned having seen their photos (on the web)
before meeting them--i wonder how eric would feel realizing there's a
whole discussion of his butt available?  i heard about that one, and it
was strange to see the original posts.  don't panic folks....it's a
*tedious* process digging through those files...*much* worse than dealing
with long digests...but it *is* possible to do a search, so if someone is
*looking* for you....  i admit it, i searched a little bit before it just
got too weird.  claire, i *really* liked what you wrote this summer about
taking pictures at the shows--i completely understand because that's
exactly how i feel when i photograph off the beat--and it gives me an
active relationship with the performers, sharing my own art form.  susan,
the fbi has a file on you????  what *have* you been up to?

i've probably made a few people mildly uncomfortable saying this much.  if
i have, i'm sorry....that's not my intention.  the public-ness of the
internet is a weird hard-to-grasp idea.  i know i usually think of the
list as a safe closed community most of the time, and that's a *good*
thing.  but i think it's also important to remember every so often that it
is technically available to whoever wants it.  for example, if you're
planning to run for office (obligatory plug --> susie b in 2003!), you
might want to check what you've said about yourself on the list.  not to
scare anyone, just be aware.

it was fascinating to read the posts i did.  it's a fly-on-the-wall kind
of feeling.  i'd heard about how wonderful everyone on the list was when
dana and jenny got into the accident last summer and it was really
touching to read it for myself....i love you all so much for that and it
really makes me feel proud to be part of this group.  i also got an
inkling of the grape nuts fiasco, and that was entertaining.  but when i
started seeing posts by people who are now friends of mine, written from
before we knew each other, even though it's technically public and
available i felt awkward and stopped reading pretty quickly.  so i wanted
to kinda warn you all about that.  it felt like i'd just come across
someone's journal or something.  i mean, i could have gotten some great
insights into how a lot of established listees created their
presence--haven't any of you relative newbies ever wondered how some
old-timers like jen lucero or deb reiser introduced themselves to the
list, for example, or how long they've really been on?--but i felt like i
should ask permission before looking.  it's invasive, in a way, and
unfair.  kinda like how we feel like we know amy and emily so well, but
we'd be at an advantage in a conversation with them because they *don't*
know anything about us.

so those are my thoughts.  someday i think i'd like to write a history of
the list--i think it would be a fascinating project--and combine reading
archives with talking to people about extra-list activity......but i
don't think i could do it without both the general support and approval
of listees as a group and the specific go-ahead from any of you who might
be concerned about me delving into your pasts.  i hope that last sentence
made sense.  i really have no clue what kind of response i'm going to get
from this post, and i'm hesitant about sending it, but i also feel like
it's something that should be mentioned.  and i just want to make clear
to any of y'all (you know who you are) who might be really weirded out by
now that i was in no way trying to spy and i *did* stop reading entirely as
soon as i realized it could get weird.  it was pure luck (good or bad,
i'm not sure) that i came across the eric's butt and the fbi
comments....i looked for posts around nojf and newport just because i was
curious what the list was like around the beginning of a tour....since i
haven't been on long enough to experience it.

love you all, but especially veronica and andi and jen who are getting me
to my second indigo girls concert ever on march 16th!!!!!!!

....audrey

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surfing the web i found this,
but i'm sure everyone knows these concert dates already.

3-28-97 davenport, la great river hall >>

i live in davenport, and i can tell you that it's not in louisiana -- but
iowa. davenport is located on the iowa/illinois border in case anyone is
interested.

the concert will be in the river center, but ticket information can be
obtained from the adler theater. i've been in touch with someone from the
box office, but haven't found out when tickets will go on sale.

angela (yeah--i finally get to experience the girls live!!!)

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>a few days ago someone brought up a very interesting question that i
>myself had wondered for quite a while...
>what in the world are amy's and emily's middle names???
>despite the thousands of things ive read about them, ive never stumbled
>upon an answer...
>anyone out there know?
>-lauren

this question got me to wondering when it was posted the other day so i
checked the faq...their middle names are amy elizabeth and emily ann.

well. tuesdays usually suck. class all day, long lectures, usually a story
due for the school paper, the general "uggh"  type of day. well, it started
with the weather becoming really mild during my last class. awesome 50
degree afternoon.  i actually spent a few minutes outside (*just got a new
'pentium with all the dings and toots i wanted really cheap.*) (and i have a
t1 in my room, so like i am more than simply addicted..) anyway i was
working on this possible lead for a story, about a interview with an academy
award nominated director (documentary - short form). i scheduled it. that
rocked as i really wanted to talk to this guy and i had an email address ,
unfortunately the regional paper didnt pick it up, but hell, it will be on
the campus paper.
    so i check my mailbox in my dorm (i have a po box as well) i have a
letter from financial aid -- they awarded me $600 more dollars this semester
for a scholarship. i flipped! (i *still am* flipping) and started to surf
the web.  ran across a b'cast of vic chestnutt on realaudio from swsx last
year -- really cool, went to a site on him, found out....

he finally is playing boston!!!!! march 15th !!!!!

yeah, i am psyched. i though someone would think i was torturing small
animals with the shriek i let out. today is just too awesome -- dont want it
to end.

closer to fine...
mike r.

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hey blues fans,

little charlie will be playing at billy blues in houston on march 15th.

i know i'm not the only ig lover on the west coast...california to be exact!
so, does anyone know of any concert dates for us...way over here on the other
side of the country...i feel so left out!!!!
i know they're probably not scheduled yet...but any news would give me
hope...thanks y'all!!

jenn =)

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what an incredible mailing list!  imagine, so many indigo girls fans
able to communicate on the same level w/o even ever talking!  sorry,
i'm new to this, and little excited.  anyway, i live in boulder,
colorado and i'm desperately searching for any concerts coming to my
area, which basically includes anywhere in the midwest and the west.
all i've seen so far is stuff on the east coast, and that's such a
tragedy!  so, if anybody has some insider stuff on the concert scene,
please post it on the list and let us westerners in on the big
secrets!  thanks!
                                        michele :)
                                        kurs@ucsu.colorado.edu

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at 09:38 pm 2/18/97 pst, you wrote:
>surfing the web i found this,
>but i'm sure everyone knows these concert dates already.
>

>3-28-97 davenport, la great river hall

hey jo,
you could give us old geezers a heart attack with that misinformation. i'd
gladly drive to davenport, la (wherever that might be?), but not to
davenport, ia :0

>"your actions will follow you full circle round" a. ray

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jonas & ezekial (amy ray)
-------------------------
[actually in d; capo 2.]
[each chord is one measure.]

[i saw indigo girls do this on austin city limits, and they played the verse
chords as am and c.  the _rites_of_passage_ songbook also shows them as am
and c.  but it _sounds_ like it's mostly am; that's because the _bass_ plays
a most of the time, even under the c measures.  on "acl," the chords were
strummed so that the fourth and fifth notes of the am and c measures were
hammer-ons from 0 to 2 on the d string.]

[in other words: the verse is am am am am(4)>am am am am c c c c(9)>c c c c.]

          am                       c
i left my anger in a river running highway 5
    am                   c
new hampshire, vermont, border by
am                          c
college farms, hubcaps, and falling rocks
am                          c
voices in the woods and the mountaintops

i used to search for reservations and native lands
before i realized everywhere i stand
there have been tribal feet running wild as fire
some past life sister of are my desire

   f                   g
   jonas and ezekial, hear me now
c                    f
   steady now, and don't come out
           f                     g
   i'm not ready for the dead to show it's face
c                      f        e7  e7      am   am   am   am
   whose angel are you anyway,         anyway?

now when i was young, my people taught me well
give back what you take, or you'll go to hell
it's not the devil's land, you know it's not that kind
every devil i meet becomes a friend of mine
every devil i meet is an angel in disguise

jonas and ezekial, hear me now
steady now, and don't come out
i'm not ready for the dead to show its face
whose angel are you anyway?

am      c        am      c
hey hey hey hey, hey hey hey hey...
e7      e7       am      c      e7     e7
[guitar solo]
am           c           g            e7          e7
   white - chain - rope - fear - be still my dear

a bullet in the head, now he's dead
a friend of a friend, someone said
he was an activist with a very short life
i think there's a lesson here, he died without a fight

in the war over land where the world began
prophecy says it's where the world will end
but there's a tremor growing in our own backyard
am c am
fear in our heads, fear in our hearts, prophets in the graveyards

jonas and ezekial, hear me now
steady now, and don't come out
i'm not ready for the dead to show its face
whose turn is it anyway?

jonas and ezekial, hear me now
steady now, i feel your ghost about
i'm not ready for the dead to show its face
whose angel are you anyway?

               am                        c
i said there's prophets in the graveyard
               (here    i      walk in   beauty)
am                        c
prophets in the graveyard
(beauty         is   be - fore me)
am                        c         am         c       am.
prophets in the graveyard
(beauty         is   be - hind me, above and below me)

tab:

the measure right at the end of the chorus:  e -----5-4---------|
                                             b ---3-------------|
                                             g /4---------------|

guitar solo:

("=" or "===" is a hammer-on or pull-off; "///" and "/" are slides.)

e7 e7
e --------------------------------|---------------------------------|
b ----------------------------3---|35-------3-----------------------|
g ------------0---2---3---4-------|-------------5-------------------|
d --------2-----------------------|-----------------4===5---4-------|
a --------------------------------|---------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|---------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

am c
e --------------------------------|------------------------3---5---|
b --------------------------------|-------------------/5-----------|
g ----------------4===5---4-------|--------------------------------|
d 5///7-----------------------5---|5///7---------------------------|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ . ^ .

  e7                               e7
  <--bend-->      <--bend-->       <--bend-->      <--bend-->
e 5---5---5=3-----5---5---5=3-----|5---5---5=3-----5---5---5=3-----|
b ------------5---------------5---|------------5---------------5---|
g --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
d --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
a --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
e --------------------------------|--------------------------------|
  ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .    ^   .   ^   .   ^   .   ^   .

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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> this question got me to wondering when it was posted the other day so i
> checked the faq...their middle names are amy elizabeth and emily ann.

mmm... ae and ea... jung, anyone?

margaret

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help!  does anyonw know if this posting
davenport la great river hall
actually should be
davenport ia ????  that would make a rather large difference to me, since
i'm in iowa.  can anyone email me with that info?  (this computer does not
connect to the web so don't yell at me for that, please...only help a poor
deprived grad student find her way to the ig concert nearest her...of
course both dar and ani are coming in april so that's cool as it is....)

oh by the way marianne welcome to the darlist!! it's so weird seeing
people on both lists!

love,
suzi

hello my ketchup-dipped tater tots!

one small issue..i know i've whined about this before but..please do not put
tape over your stamps or even just touching your stamps when you send sase's
for bootlegs!!....i have had to buy several people's stampage because when i
got to the post office, they won't accept the package...and i have to buy new
stamps. as i found out recently, sometimes the po employees themselves put the
tape on the stamps ! don't let em, kids. we have a crannnnky postmaster up in
these here parts and he doesn't like tape! it suggests that the stamps have
been reused. his exact words. i told him to eat more cheese and smile!

a side note....mother's day is not a holiday in recognition of all women. some
of us aren't gonna be poppin out puppies in our lifetimes, k?:)

oh, and, does anyone have info on the colby college show in me, like when tix
go on sale (mike?)? the unh box office told me the april 12th show tickets will
not go on sale for "a couple more weeks". no exact date. the weeneez!

i heart y'all muchly

susie

lauren wondered about their middle names....

amy elizabeth ray
emily ann saliers

that's ann without an *e*.....

ann (without an *e*)

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sorry to waste bw, but sal, my buddy, where are you? sara

______________________________________________________________________________
"all in all               /     sara mccutchen     \         "love survives on
and by and by            /   10-22-502 ikeda-cho    \    memories best livin'"
tears for forgive-      / nishinomiya-shi, hyogo-ken \        --caroline
aiken                                                   ness will hang
/         662   japan          \         "i will not be
out and dry"          /    ***********************     \          complacent."
  --shawn colvin     /          sbeth@gol.com           \            --amy
ray
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just wondering if anyone out there would share the info on "boot making".
will go to see ani this weekend in japan, and hopefully ig and others when
i return. email me privately, please...thanks in advance for any help.
sara

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forgot to change that last sunject line...duh...duh...sorry!
--suzi

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now that we've been reminded of their middle names, a fun thing to do
might be to imagine them getting in trouble as little girls:
"amy elizabeth ray, you get down here this instant and pick up your toy
motorcycles! they're all over the stairs, your father nearly killed
himself on them!"
"emily ann saliers, no playing rock star until you clean up your room,
and i mean it, young lady! put that guitar down this minute!"

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sorry if this has been asked/answered/though of before. please
remember...i'm a newbie.

on the album version of least complicated, what do amy and emily say at
the very end? emily says something to the effect of "yeah...that's the way
i *feel* about it.."

but i was wondering exactly what the conversation is. private replies! not
everyone is as interested in hearing about this, so seven thousand replies
to the list may get annoying...= )

-liz-

"so i know it's alright. my life will come, my life will go..." -emily
saliers-

http://www.infochase.com/edu/liz/indigo.html

well, i'm off on my travels again (i've only had two days in
england this week!!), and this time i'm going to berlin. once again,
if anybody does send me e-mails, don't expect them to be answered
for a few weeks - sorry!!

i'll write again after monday....

john.
"did you hear me say,
each life has it's place...."

ig, virginia woolf

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hello fellow listees:
i am on the ferron list and i just got word that she is opening a couple of
the ig shows. she is set to open at hofstra on the 16th plus a march 18th
date that didn't have a venue attached. i'll find out as soon as i can
where that show will be. i'm sure it's another eastcoast show.

deb

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just wanted to let you know that i have moved to a new provider and how it
will effect things:

the lifeblood pages will stay at the same address
(http://www.hidwater.com/lifeblood) and i will be changing my embedded email
address.

the indigo girls tapelist page i have put together is now at
http://www.primenet.com/~underdog

my new email address is underdog@primenet.com

thanks

carolyn

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margaret clayton wrote:
> tamara wrote:
> > this question got me to wondering when it was posted the other day so i
> > checked the faq...their middle names are amy elizabeth and emily ann.
>
> mmm... ae and ea... jung, anyone?

ermm, i know what infp means to jung (i'm one) but what do ae & ea mean?

tom

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i was just wondering if there was anyone on the list that lives or knows
things about the napa valley, ca area.  i found out that i'm going there
for a week and i want to hit the local music scene, hot spots, bookstores,
etc, but don't know what they are.  please help if you know anything about
this area.  i am just a confused texan that will be a long way from home.
thanks for the help.
cn

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at 07:31 am 2/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> this question got me to wondering when it was posted the other day so i
>> checked the faq...their middle names are amy elizabeth and emily ann.
>
>mmm... ae and ea... jung, anyone?
>

yes margaret~

they fit together like a warm pair of cashmere gloves, don't cha think??

t-bird

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ermm, i know what infp means to jung (i'm one) but what do ae & ea mean?

tom

        smeone correct me if i'm wrong, i'm being anal...hi alycia :) but the
        infp, estj is based on the myers-briggs test and has nothing to do with
        jung. i believe myers-briggs was a mother/daughter team who came up with
        this test to help place women in the work force during wwii.

back to lurkdom :)

kira

each year, my school (stonehill college, n.easton, ma) has a spring weekend,
where we bring a somewhat recognizable band to our sports complex for a show.
this year, when names were tossed around, ig was one of them.  in fact,
their management called last week and made us an offer for a saturday show --
the price, which included lights and an opening band -- was within our
budget...  but the committe said "no."  why?  they are waiting to hear back
from an offer they made to ll cool j...  there is no justice...

my only salvation is that if ll has not responded by tonight the  committee
may pull their offer to him and accept the indigo one, so if everyone could
call their local tv station and demand more new episodes of in the house
(ll's "hit" show) maybe he'll just be too busy.  or if anyone has any good
luck rituals they could perform for me i'd really appreciate it.  i couldn't
imagine having ig want to play here and saying no.

thanks, kevin

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opps sory guys and gals. guess i had a slight case of computer screen hypnosis.
i was wondering why they only gave themselves 2 days to get from mi to la.:->
let it be known davenport is in iowa.

"i had a lot of good intentions" e.saliers
"i swore i would never be your sinner" a. ray

i'm going to the hofstra concert! i am really psyched. who else is gonna be
there?
love,
julie

anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?

does anyone have info on the psu show? pittsburgh to state college
isn't that far, and i found a car to go, if possible. and, well, i just
wanna know how to get tickets.

email me privately if you know what's up!
thanks
renee
grebe@cmu.edu

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with reguards to reading the list archives....

i think it's wonderful to be able to go back and (re-)read posts from
long ago (well, not *that* long ago), but do keep in mind that the
opinions and statements that were made then may not be true now. in
other words, i've goofed about some things, and i'm sorry.

learned a lot and grew much since i joined this list, so i hope i
won't be held too much accountable for things i may have posted in
the past.

anna

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is trying to please everybody." -bill cosby

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does anyone know if the indigo girls are coming to minneapolis,
minnesota? or to wisconsin? thanks for your help. lara

does anyone know if the dynamic duo will be scheduling any west coast tour
dates? they haven't been to sf bay area in about three years. i was hoping
some of you "in the know" would be able to shed some light on the subject.
i've managed to take my s.o. to 3 melissa's and 2 mary chapin's and "the
girls" are my final goal.

thanks
mac

the good life: living where you belong, with people you love, doing the right
work... on purpose.

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surfing when i should be working... found this from the 99x site

alison
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addicted to
noise staff writer gil
kaufman reports: on
february 28, rage against
the machine singer zack de
la rocha will make one of his
frequent pilgrimages to mexico to meet with leaders of the
embattled zapatista movement, only this time he will be
joined by the indigo girls and a 25-member delegation
hoping to sway the opinions of mexican government
officials.

de la rocha is no stranger to the plight of the zapatistas
and their shadowy leader, the masked rebel,
subcomandante marcos, who have been battling the
mexican government in a fight for the rights of indigenous
peoples for several years. the delegation, who hope to meet
with marcos himself, will be made up of the musicians,
community leaders and representatives of indigenous
peoples groups, all part of a cultural exchange program that
will set up camp in the town of la realidad, the last place
marcos was seen.

according to a source, the indigo girls' amy ray and emily
saliers got involved in the program when they met with a
representative from the el paso office of the national
commission for democracy in mexico, the same person that
de la rocha was briefed by, after which ray made her first
educational trip to mexico.

both ray and saliers have championed native american
and indigenous peoples' causes for years, culminating in last
year's "honor the earth" tour, a month-long benefit tour that
raised $300,000 for native american grass roots
organizations. the duo's next album, shaming of the sun,
which features cameos from steve earle, lisa germano,
andy stochansky (ani difranco's drummer), the atlanta
band smoke and hip-hop producer dallas austin, will be
released on april 29.

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just got word that ig may very well be playing at duke univ. in late april.
looks like a similar situation where students at duke get first pick at seats,
but if any of you nc people want tics, i can have a friend pick up tics the
first day they go on sale...
amy c

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hello everyone!! i am on cloud nine because after 8 years of listening i
am finally seeing the girls...
love aim

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it was said:

<< the duo's next album, shaming of the sun, >>

well, i don't know about anybody else, but i'm really glad this album isn't
going to be called map. <duck> it wasn't exactly the most catchy title . . .
i think that shaming of the sun - though a tad wordy - is a ton better, and
i'm all happy now. =) i think ucking ig would have worked, too . . .

-elizabeth

ps: sigh . . . my experimenting with black beans yesterday seem to have
backfired. i guess my southern roots got lost somewhere in the gene pool.
not that my yankee side can handle the baked beans, either. woah, i think
that was more than i ment to share with a few hundred strangers!

* * * * * * * * *
"i tried to dance at a funeral"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

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hey all!
i am new on the list and very excited about it. i found different tour
dates on the web through epic and was wondering if anybody has tour dates
past may. this is what i found:

3/13/97     south hadley ma
3/16/97     hempstead, ny      hofstra university
3/26/97     grand rapids mi
4/10/97      fort worth tx       tcu-daniel-meyer coliseum
4/12/97      durham nh            university of new hamshire
4/13/97      waterville me        colby college
4/15/97      university park pa   penn state university
4/19/97      philadelphia pa         lasalle college

by the way, tcu is texas christian u. also, anyone know the release date of
the album? sorry if you guys have covered that already, i am new here.
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helllllooooo to my favorite indigo freaks out there!!!

ok, i've been lurking way too long.  and i've been silently watching and
waiting for the perfect moment to emerge from my lurkdom.  my lurk"dom" has
been my kingdom lately.  but the sun came out and asked if i wanted to play
and he has set my soul free and saved me from my lurkdom.  it was almost 70
in richmond, va today and spring is in the air.  woo-hoo!!!!  i just can't
wait to experience my first glimpse of "southland in the spring time."

and that brings me to the mighty reason why i decided to make my appearance
on the list again...me thinks we need a new thread kids.  and i have one
that is oh, so great.  now i've never had an indigo day (an experience in
which something pertaining to the girls is experienced in every day life,
such as hearing them on the radio,etc), but lately it seems to me that many
random moments in my day are the embodiment of a lyric to an ig song.  like
yesterday i saw a dead dog on the side of the room and then two hours later
a "dead dog on the highway." :( and to make matters even worse, i almost hit
another one that jumped out of the woods in rural virginia returning from
skiing the same night. it was kinda freeky because i had never even seen a
dead dog on the side of the road, and all of a sudden, two in one day!  it
makes me very sad though.  but i'm thinking that the one in the woods wasn't
necessarily a dog though.  and today, when the sun becconed (sp?) me out to
play, the words "my place is of the sun..." ran through my head.

and i can't wait until i can buy my friend tucker a beer and tell her that
good friends are hard to come by.  she's my u. of richmond list buddy.  so,
has anyone else experienced a&e's lyrics in real life?  if this thread has
been attempted before, it's been a while, so i don't think that it would be
too bad to give it a shot again.  i think we all need a little something to
get our minds off the upcoming tour, because every time i think about it, i
go crazy!!!
they'll be here soon, but soon is just not soon enough for me.

what d'y'all think?

later,

mere
$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$
"cars the weapons, gas
the ammunition, maps
the plan of destruction,
and friends the enemy
when you have all the
time in the world but
not a penny to your name.
roadtrips, my friend, are
war."
      ~composed by me of little
       money, many friends, time
       i didn't know i had to
       spare, and a car.
$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$~$

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sorry guys...i meant to say "dead dog on the side of the road" instaed of
"dead dog on the room." disregard that. this makes a little more sense.

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hello fellow ig fans, hope this post finds everyone in good health and much
happiness (heck, the girls are on tour why wouldn't you be happy!?!?).  i am
proud to say i will be seeing amy and emily live at hofstra and i was just
wondering whether or not they will be touring with a band this time or
without.  this summer i saw them on the practice tour w/o a band which was
awesome (as long as a&e are there what more could you ask for??) and i kinda
want to see what it would be like with a band so i was wondering if anyone
had a clue...either way i'm sooooo psyched to be seeing them!!! thanks in
advance to anyone that can help.  you can post to the list or e-mail me
privately...whichever "y'all" think is best!
counting down the days,
dave

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i like this idea, however i can't think of anytimes i've experienced any of
the ig songs in real life...except for of course "mystery" spelling out my
courtship etc with my hubby.

i can share this, though...last year i was listening to rites of passage
over and over, and when it wasn't that it was swamp. so my then 4-year-old
daughter catherine learned all the words to the songs. my husband thought i
was rather pathetic, that i listened to them so much our daughter new the
words--to all the songs! and she'd sing them all day, when we were out in
public. can you guess which one line she chose to sing whenever we were at a
store?

"give back what you take, or you'll go to hell"

so we had a discussion about when it's okay to use the word, "hell."

susan malmrose malmrose@olympus.net
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> > feet lying dead in the middle of a wood growing up like trillion on the
>> > {trillium?}
>>
>> trillium. it's a three-petaled flower....
>
>and it grows on the forest floor.
>

and it is the official flower of ontario and it is illegal to pick them here
because it takes many years to grow or something like that. =)

lori
(jealous of every person even remotely near a us college where the girls are
playing)

"when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on"
rem

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kira wrote:
> someone correct me if i'm wrong, i'm being anal...hi alycia :) but the
> infp, estj is based on the myers-briggs test and has nothing to do with
> jung. i believe myers-briggs was a mother/daughter team who came up with
> this test to help place women in the work force during wwii.

my mom gave me a m-b test about 10 years ago, when she was in grad school for
counseling. i got the impression that it was somehow connected to jung's
theories, but my mom was really in to jung at the time, and i might have
mistaken her description. i'll have to e-mail her and ask what she meant.

sorry for the nigc,
tom

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hey everyone,

well, my dead animal story goes like this...

back in november, i guess it was, my lovergirl and i were on our way to
scranton from pittsburgh. (what a trip!) we were just passing through
state college (can't wait till i go there again! ;)  when out of no where
we see a family of deer about 500 feet in front of the car in the middle
of the road.  it was just getting dark, dark enough not to see them until
we were too close for comfort! to say the least.  there were about five of
them.  we slammed on the brakes, they ran across the road into a field.
we passed the area where they were standing just as the last one jumped
out of the way.  it was a very frightening experience.  it was so sudden.
i just remember thinking "no, i don't want this to happen"  (i.e. i don't
want to kill deer, and oh yeah, ruin the car...).

the funny part of this story is that about three minutes later we get
pulled over by a police car.  we're thinking "uhhh, what the hell is going
on?"  we were on a curvy road, never been on it before, the speed limit is
like 45 and we were going about 47...  so the cop says we're not
maintaining a similar speed and mostly going too slow.  we told him we had
just almost ran over a family of deer. he didn't seem to process that. he
came back and said we slowed from 52 to 38 a little ways back, a dangerous
practice, and gave us a warning.  it took us a while to figure out that
that was when we slowed down to miss the deer, but we just felt like "what
a jerk!"  apparently he had used the radar gun on us, from a good distance
behind us, i.e. not close enough to see the deer.  which is okay by us,
b/c he prolly would've rear-ended us (hey!) if he was closer.

also on this trip i repeatedly saw all kinds of carnage.  i felt the urge
to count, i saw so much.  it was very disturbing and reminiscent in a very
"chickenman" kind of way.  i've babbled enough.  take care, ya'll.

peace, melissa

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hey kind friends~
this isn't really igc but it concerns ig attitude and things most of
us seem to care about, so in case you didn't already read it:

washington post

<excerted>  ...ruby bridges was 6 when she became one of four black girls
who integrated the new orleans public school system in 1960 - a moment
immortalized in a norman rockwell painting that captured the innocence of a
child on a street that otherwise teemed with mob hatred.
        on the morning of nov. 14, 1960, the four black children entered
all-white schools in new orleans.  for more than a year, bridges-hall braved
hostile crowds to be taught in an otherwise empty classroom by a teacher
brought in from masssachucetts because new orleans teachers wouldn't work
with her.
        the classroom became a virtual prison: bridges-hall wasn't allowed
to go to the school cafeteria; she was excluded from the schoolyard during
recess; and a marshal stood outside her door.
        the fight for equality is not yet over, bridges-hall said. "we may
not all be equally guilty, but we are all equally responsible for building a
decent and just society... we have tolerance, respect and equality in our
written laws but not in the hearts of some of our people."
        bridges-hall is believed to be the inspiration for rockwell's
painting, _the problem we all live with_.  john steinbeck wrote about her
in_travels with charley_.

end of article

i just read travels with charley recently and it is a gripping account of
the ordeal these children went through on that first historic morning. i
highly recommend it.

we are but a moments sunlight fading in the grass....
come on people now smile on one another, everybody get together, try to love
one another right now

tony @:-}

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my little brother flushed my one week old kitty down the toilet.
it died.

xochitl, feeling the aura of mr. kitty...

hey guys!
where is michelle malone? is she no longer playing with them. i love her
voice!
love, kc

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well, i just spent a little time randomly looking through the old digests of
the lists posted on the web, and <sigh> am i feeling nostalgic. so many
people i'd forgotten about who were like close friends way back then...and
boy, how we've grown...just curious if anyone knows what became of people
like muffy b., i-girl, sylvia from penn state (who i met at bucknell during
the $10 tour...i hereby retract anything negative i said about throwing
muses that night, btw), chris wein (who sent me my first bootlegs as a
newbie), ron mcbay, vic and lisa, the steves (both clark and list-meister),
richard lloyd (uk), baby d...

just came from some friends' gig at the sidewalk cafe (ave. a and 6th), they
were terrific (they're called ripe, look for them around nyc if you like a
louder, rougher edged sort of music than the igs), but the band that played
after them was called tamara, and though i found the music a bit tame, i was
much reminded of early shawn colvin, and the lead singer/guitar player was
quite good, so if you're into sc, and you're in nyc or vicinty, you might
want to check them out. consult the voice/ny press/timeout for details...

peace,
bill

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anybody see ellen tonight?
pretty silly:):)

it was a part in the show where she was at a retreat with her gay friend peter.
he was talking to himself in a mirror saying insightful things and ellen kept taking
the mirror back because something he said reminded her of something. finally, peter said,
"and i am gay." he then hadnded the mirror back to ellen and said "ellen?"

:):)
when are we gonna know if she is coming out?

i am sure it is great for ratingss for us to watch to catch silly little glimpses like this:):)

had a wonderful job interview today:) i am as positive that i will get the job as a person
can be:):) wish me all the extra luck you can!

love,
selena
"how long 'til my soul gets it right?"
you know, my favorite part in that song is when they sing,"i think i'll write a book.."
both on rop and 1200 curfews:):)

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liz turcotte wrote:
>
> sorry if this has been asked/answered/though of before. please
> remember...i'm a newbie.
>
> on the album version of least complicated, what do amy and emily say at
> the very end? emily says something to the effect of "yeah...that's the way
> i *feel* about it.."
>
> but i was wondering exactly what the conversation is. private replies! not
> everyone is as interested in hearing about this, so seven thousand replies
> to the list may get annoying...= )
>
> -liz-

:) hey,
i eould love to know also:)
love,
selena

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hello everyone,

i hope everyone is having a great day/night.  i have several things to
discuss.  first of all i have to tell y'all about my exciting news.  if you
remember i bought a guitar a few weeks ago and started lessons (thanks to
the inspirations of two wonderful women).  well i went to my lesson
yesterday and i was ready to learn a new song..  well my instructor looked
at me and said, "alot of college students seem to like this song" and what
does he start playing, but closer to fine.  i was so excited.  i am starting
to learn my first ig song - i love my instructor.  anyway - enough of that.
i am proud to say that i have created a few more ig fans.  my cd's have been
making a circulation around my floor - i love college.  and i will finally
end with a question/statement.  i was listening to the color me grey boot
and fallin' star was on - is it me or does amy say something about emily.
so could someone please e-mail me the words to the song or let me know if i
am hallucinating.  thanks for the help in advance.

stacey
ae-virginia tech
svamvas@vt.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~so long as we love we serve; so~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                   long as we are loved by others,
go hokies!!!!!            i might almost say that we are          virginia tech
                                   indispensible; and no man is
                                   useless while he has a friend.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~--robert louis stevenson~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

my heart nearly skipped a beat when i read on the ig bulletin board
that the girls are having a lyric contest and you'll get all sorts of
stuff, one of which is they'll play at your school (sorry, only open to
junior high and high school students). oh golly gee, i'm soooo
excited! good thing my school just built a rocking new performing arts
center (we had the joffrey ballet of chicago play last year, ig
definitely can top that!)!!!!!!
leah (slobbering over her keyboard at the present moment)

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hello everybody
has anyone heard anything yet about the wheaton show on april
17th? yes, i know, jumping ahead, but a random friend just emailed me
that she was going, and i freaked, 'cuz i didn't think tix were on sale
yet...help me please...i suffer from nightmares where i'm in line to buy
ig tickets and they sell out as i step up to the window...yes i'm seeking
professional help...

happy day,
jennie
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hey all :)
this is mah first ever iglist post.

on wed, 19 feb 1997, indigo girl wrote:

> my little brother flushed my one week old kitty down the toilet.
> it died.
*faeriedust and sorries*, to xochi (boo! hee :)

about how a&e's songs have connected with events in my life...
ever since i was about 13, i'd _needed_ to get to athens, ga.
i didn't understand why until i got there.
in '95 i ventured away from melbourne, australia by myself as a 19 year
old and found my other home in the south. athens, and the south was
somewhere i had been connected to for a long time, for reasons i still
don't quite understand. so i just remain with this connection, while i am
half a world away from where i am meant to be.
chickenman ('...on the road to athens...') and southland in springtime are
two songs which help me remember and cherish all the travel i did and
all the experiences i collected in the south.
they'll tie me over until the end of this year when i return to the south
for another few months.

btw, are there any australian (melbournian) ig ppl who would be interested
in a party or get together to welcome in the new album when it's released?

*hoping that this, my first post made some sense*
alana x
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"and in this stillness...  |   o /  alana jones - womyn's studies major,
  there was a freedom...    | /~|~   writer, traveller, sarah mclachlan
  i'd never felt before..." |   \\   fan, indigo girl, proud owner of 1
  - sarah mclachlan -       |   //   giant tabby and absolutely taken ;)
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for anyone in and around western mass: moxy fruvous, the way cool band that
made a
surprise appearence at newport this past summer are playing at the iron
horse in northampton on march 16th. 1-800-the tick for details. or
email me.

jennie

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just got new tour dates posted to the ferron list... note that she's
opening at least a couple upcoming ig's shows! (yay!)

cheers,
anne
aka she-who-pretty-much-lurks-cause-she's-so-damn-busy-these-days

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date: wed, 19 feb 1997 09:31:31 -0800

hello,

here's the latest list of confirmed and pending concert dates
for ferron in 1997:

sat, feb 22:
beaver point hall,
salt spring island, bc, canada
venue box: zydeco, victoria bc 250.389.1877
showtimes: 5:30pm & 8:30pm
tickets: $17 canadian

thu, feb 27:
kuwumba jazz center,
santa cruz, ca
duo with barbara higbie
showtime: 7pm
ticket info: 408.426.7828

sun, mar 2:
the palms playhouse,
davis, ca
with barbara higbie
showtime: 7pm
venue box: 916.756.9901
tickets: $15

wed, mar 12:
freight & salvage,
berkeley, ca
showtime: 8pm
venue box: 510.548.1761 and bass
tickets: $14/$15
www.ticketweb.com
freight & salvage

sat, mar 15:
iron horse,
northampton mass
duo with shelley jennings

***sun, mar 16:
***opening show for indigo girls hofstra university,
***hempstead, l.i.

mon, mar 17:
tin angel,
philadelphia, pa
duo with shelley jennings

***tue, mar 18:
***open show indigo girls

wed, mar 19:
portland, maine

4/17 fort collins, colorado
4/18 denver , colorado
4/19 santa fe , new mexico
4/20 pending new mexico date
4/25 salt lake city
4/26 grand junction, colorado

i hope you get to a show this year.
i will keep you updated as dates get confirmed or change.

my best,
kelly
ferronfan@aol.com

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the mbti test was created by a mother daughter team during wwii (kudos to
tom!!) but the test was, i believe, based on the theories of carl jung.
we learned this last week when we found out the results of our tests
during a leadership seminar.  i'm an enfp/j (a tie between p and j).  i
wonder what amy and emily are......???  i bet amy is an enfj and em is an
infp....i can definatly see amy being the extroverted planner and em
being an introverted scatterbrain....awwww how cute!!  what'd y'all
think.....(no i'm not southern but have to use y'all every once and a
while to feel connected to the girls!)  anyway, this could be an
interesting thread!  sorry if this is long....it's kinda late and i'm
tired....

goodnight....sweet indigo dreams!!!

jess

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this is now kel's sister leanne and i'm here to ask you why why why you
haven't replied to our e-mail, i mean this is the only way we can ever get
in contact with you guys unless we stage - dive one of your concerts! so
please write back and just have a chat to some of your most dedicated
australian fans!!!!!!! bye emily and amy!!
trying to throw my arms around the world!

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on wed, 19 feb 1997, chickensoprano wrote:

> with reguards to reading the list archives....
>
> i think it's wonderful to be able to go back and (re-)read posts from
> long ago (well, not *that* long ago), but do keep in mind that the
> opinions and statements that were made then may not be true now. in
> other words, i've goofed about some things, and i'm sorry.
>
> learned a lot and grew much since i joined this list, so i hope i
> won't be held too much accountable for things i may have posted in
> the past.

i'd have to second that, bearing in mind some of the things i came out
with in the first few weeks of being on the list ...

mat

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kid fears (amy ray)
-------------------

notes about the chords:
* in the last chorus, where all the voices are tangled together, i tried
to notate it as best i could.  amy's part is on the first line in capital
letters; michael stipe's part is below that, in capitals and in parentheses;
emily's part is at the bottom, in parentheses but no caps.  i went through
the trouble of doing this because the songbook is completely useless for
figuring out the end of this song...
* where it says c, that might often be c(9).  mix it up.
* c(9)=x32033 or x32030; d11=554030 or x54030; em7=022030

[key of g]
[moderate 3/4 time; each chord is one measure]

em em em em em em cmaj7 d11 em em cmaj7 d11
[intro]

am           em7   am          em7   am        em7       am    em7
  pain from pearls, hey little girl, how much have you grown?
am           em7   am           em7  am              em7           am   am
  pain from pearls, hey little girl, flowers for the ones you've known

g   g          d     d   c   c         d     d
    are you on fire          from the years
em  em              d        d       em     em   cmaj7   d
    what would you give for your kid fears
em    em    cmaj7    d
[instrumental]

secret staircase, running high, you had a hiding place
secret staircase, running low, they all know now you're inside

are you on fire from the years
what would you give for your kid fears
[instrumental]

skipping stones, we know the price now, any sin will do
how much further if you can spin, how much further if you are smooth?

g   g          d     d          c      c        d      d
    are you on fire                    from the years
                    (are you on fire)                 (from the

em      em              d        d       em      em
        what would you give for your kid fears?
years)                                           (what would re-

d d d d c(9) c(9) c(9) c(9)
-place the rent with the stars above, replace the need with love)
(replace the rent with the stars above, replace the need with love)

d d d d c(9) c(9) c(9) c(9)
(replace the anger with the tide, replace the ones the ones the ones that you
(replace the anger with the tide, the ones that you love, the ones...)

d     d  d       d
love,    oh, the ones that you...)
(love,    oh, the ones that you...)

g   g          d             d          c        c          d          d
    are you on fire                              from  the  years
love)                       (are you on fire)                        (from the
(replace the  rent with the stars    above,   replace the need with love)

em     em              d             d              em         em  c  d
       what would you give     for  your     kid    fears?             oh now,
years)                              (what would you give)
    (replace the     anger with the tide,     the ones that you love, the...)

g   g          d             d          c        c          d          d
    are you on fire                              from  the  years
                            (are you on fire)                        (from the
(replace the  rent with the stars    above,   replace the need with love)

em    em           d         d             em     em           d        d
      what would u give for your      kid fears, what would u give for your kid
years)                     (what would you give)                    (what would
    (replace . . . anger ... tide,     the ones...love,    the ones ...  love)

    em       em              d        d       em    em  cmaj7 d11
    fears?   what would you give for your kid fears?           your kid
you give)   (what would you give for your kid fears?)
            (what would you give for your kid fears?)

em em cmaj7 d11 em em cmaj7 d11 em
fears kid... hold on...

this is the only tab i have (and you probably already figured this out):

em cmaj7 d11
e ------------|------------|------------|------------|
b 0-----3-----|------0-----|------------|------------|
g ------------|2-----------|0-----2-----|--0---0---0-|
d ------------|------------|------------|4---4---4---|
a ------------|------------|------------|------------|
e +---+---+---|+---+---+---|+---+---+---|+---+---+---|

the chord fingerings i use for those four measures are:
022000 022030 | 022200 022000 | x32000 x32200 | x54030 |
if you use these fingerings, you should be able to hear that tab part
in the chords.

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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all of the chord files which i've been posting to the list lately are also
available at:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/~mts5/indigo/tab/
or http://www.pobox.com/~schneider

mat

keeper of my heart (amy ray)
----------------------------

[actually in b; capo at the 2nd fret.]
[each chord is one measure.]
[asus9/g=3x2200; bm7(4)=x20230 or x20200]

[intro: strum asus9.]

    asus9   asus9            asus9/g  asus9/g
for you,      i would tattoo me
     bm7(4)          bm7(4)            d(9)             e
with lines crossing into a hand and a heart that would never bleed
           asus9    asus9      asus9/g           asus9/g
with the twilight     and the horse drawn on my arm
bm7(4)             bm7(4)    d(9)        e
standing for an addiction, pray we go unharmed.

g       g              d    d
  here is my love and anger
            c(9)          c(9)  d                d
you see now, these are my gods,   these are my scars
      g        g              d    d
here is, here is my love and anger
             c(9)      c(9)                     d   d
well, these arms are burning, but they're open wide

some things, i hold too tightly
some things, i'll never, i'll never touch
oh, but i'm wearing down the stones in the river
and you see all my life, i've painted with anger's brush

now, now could you lift me through my love and anger
you see now, these are your gods, these are my scars
lift me through my love and anger
oh, well, my arms are burning, but they're open wide

oh, you precious kid
i have a motion, and it's just for you
i see a warrior, barefoot and dancing
oh with tears of pain and beauty, and all of this is true

for you lift me through my love and anger
you see now, these are my gods, these are your scars
lift me through my love and anger
oh, well, my arms are burning but they're open wide.

asus9              asus9     asus9/g         asus9/g
pointing out the graveyards, i will be the reaper
   bm7(4)            bm7(4)       e    e
if you will be the keeper of my heart
asus9           asus9   asus9/g           asus9/g
i will be the reaper if you will be the keeper
bm7(4)          bm7(4)         e    e         asus9.
  you are the keeper of this heart,   of my heart

- adam schneider, schneider@pobox.com

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i'm sorry if everyone got this already, but i never recieved it back.

hello everyone,

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hey y'all. back when i was in jr. high (that was a loooong time ago, so =
no laughing, please), i sent fan letters to all the kids on fame the tv =
show......i got back letters and autographed picturs from lori singer, =
erica gimpbel, the girl that played doris, and the guy that played =
bruno. but what was weird was that erica gimpbel's came like two or =
three years later....

-rich (sbmfc charter member and official mentor)
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cobweb@grove.ufl.edu
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these are ghosts and mirages,=20
these thoughts of fairer weather
though it's storming out=20
i feel safe within the arms of love's discovery
-e. saliers =20
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> my little brother flushed my one week old kitty down the toilet.
> it died.

*sigh* morbid topic, but my family (really younger brothers) never did
well with hamsters. i'm not sure which was worse, the one scott (age
4) left in the car one july when he wanted to take it for a ride or
the one where dan (age 5) decided the poor thing needed a bath...

when i was a boy...

chris (int/fp if anyone is keeping track)

p.s. the url http://sunsite.unc.edu/personality/faq-mbti.html#description
has a very nice, short review of the myers-briggs profiles. for me:

infp: "questor". high capacity for caring. calm and pleasant face to
the world. high sense of honor derived from internal values. 1% of the
total population.

intp: "architect". greatest precision in thought and language. can
readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. the world exists
primarily to be understood. 1% of the total population.

personally, i think this could be emily too. =) amy definately starts
out as an extrovert ;)

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to david's post about with or without a band...

perry at rdr offered me some help...he said that the intro. tour (at those
universities that keep getting posted) will be with michelle, lift, and
some other acoustic folks. not really a band. when the big tour starts in
late april or may, the band will accompany...bigger, better, louder, and
totally indigo.

hope this helps. hope even more that they are still touring when i return
to the us of a.

sara

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today, y'all said:

>> my little brother flushed my one week old kitty down the toilet.
>> it died.
>
>*sigh* morbid topic, but my family (really younger brothers) never did
>well with hamsters. i'm not sure which was worse, the one scott (age
>4) left in the car one july when he wanted to take it for a ride or
>the one where dan (age 5) decided the poor thing needed a bath...

ok, definately morbid topic...but like a car wreck you must watch, we are
all reading these posts and thinking of our own experiences. two for me,
one past, one present:

we had box turtles when we were kids, and one day, my older sister squished
them behind the stereo. eeewww! this same sister, who is now married and
living in colorado with two dogs, two horses, and two kittens, and one kid
(soon to be two - its a veritable noah's ark over there), called me the
other day to say one of the kittens was dead...she was really bummed out
and i said "maureen...this isn't a box turtle you squish behind the
stereo...what the hell happened?" (made her laugh) apparently, the
babysitters dog tried to play with the little kitty and broke it's neck.
poor thing..

ok, next morbid story?

joni :o)

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ok, i'm embarrassed to have to post this, but... the on-sale dates for
the tickets for the mount holyoke show have changed. they are now:

march 4, tuesday, 7pm, blanchard --> 1000 tickets, students only
march 5, wednesday, 8am, blanchard --> 600 tickets, open to the public

all tickets have a 1/person limit, so that sucks. (it also means that i
can't get you tickets, which i had been planning on doing, so please
don't ask.)

blanchard is the campus center.  you will still follow the same
directions i sent you earlier, parking in the same place.  only now you
walk to a different place (still close).  i would check the campus map
which is on the web site somewhere:  http://www.mtholyoke.edu/

i'm sorry for how this affects people badly, but i had nothing to do with
the decision. i will be booting, if that helps ease your souls. :)

margaret

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hey folks,
hope everyone's having fun getting psyched for the upcoming tours. not
just ig but also all the others i've seen mentioned here recently (ani,
dar, etc.)

i originally tried to send this specifically to tuesday's child since that
was who had asked but when i do that, it keeps getting sent back to me and
besides there are probably other listees who'd be interested in reading
this.

>hi there! thanks for filling me in. let me know when you find out more
>'bout michelle, 'kay? thanks again!
>
> tuesday's child

i think i got this off the hidden water website. michelle malone will be
playing at someplace called the fez on march 18 (that's tues, 2 days after
the ig hofstra show) at 9pm. (special guest: david poe)

i'd never heard of the place but a little web surfing tells me it's a bar
located at 380 lafayette st. (i think that's in noho). their number is
(212) 533-2680 i haven't called yet but i have a bad feeling about it. i
suspect it's
gonna be a 21+ sort of place which leaves me 3 months and 11 days short.
but maybe i'll be lucky and you won't have to be 21 just to get in.

well, happy concert going everyone.

-colleen

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at 02:22 pm 2/20/97 -0500, you wrote:

>
>
>i think i got this off the hidden water website.  michelle malone will be
>playing at someplace called the fez on march 18 (that's tues, 2 days after
>the ig hofstra show) at 9pm.  (special guest: david poe)
>
>i'd never heard of the place but a little web surfing tells me it's a bar
>located at 380 lafayette st. (i think that's in noho).  their number is
>(212) 533-2680 i haven't called yet but i have a bad feeling about it.  i
>suspect it's
>gonna be a 21+ sort of place which leaves me 3 months and 11 days short.
>but maybe i'll be lucky and you won't have to be 21 just to get in.

fez is a fab. club, and a great place to see a band--it's also a place "up
and comers" play in (along with some big names playing secret gigs, etc.).
it's a nice pat on the back to get a gig there. as to the ages thing, it is
a bar type place, so i'd imagine it's technically a 21+ (though i don't know
fer sure), but c'mon, this is nyc...there's a pretty good chance the carding
will be lax if it all...

peace,
bill

on wed, 19 feb 1997, chickensoprano wrote:

i must have missed the address on this. can someone direct me to where i can
peek thru the archives.....thanks!!

rose

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colby doesnt go onsale for a while -- tixs are 22 and 11(if you are a
student) i am working on leads for the latter. the person on the phone told
me it holds 3000 people -- i would be surprised if 2000 show up -- this is
maine and it is a sunday. it is ga, and i will not be taping, nor am i
trying to get any sort of pass to get backstage. i may get comp tixs if i
write for the campus paper -- no big deal - i just want to enjoy the show
and focus on having a safe and good time.
mike r.

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anyone else planning on going to the 3-28 show in davenport, iowa?
if so, anyone interested in a pre-show list get together? i am not very
familiar with the davenport area, but we could surely find a place.

let me know.

derek
dlmsduncan@compuserve.com

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i was prompted to post this after reading the question about the fez in
nyc...i am dying to see michelle malone, and i'm prepared to drive 10
hours to see her (its over spring break--a road trip's a must!), and i
was wondering if anyone had any info on the tin angel, mainly, age
limits....i'd be 4 mos short of 21! it would suck royally to drive all
that way and then not to be able to get in!

thanks for the info....
amy

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perdon (thanx for that colloquialism margot ;) if this has been discussed on
this list before (just flog me or something ;), but--

in closer to fine when emily sings, "it's only life after all" and
then says, "yeah" afterwards, is anyone else besides me fixated on *how* she
says "yeah" and thus how it influences the meaning of "it's only life after
all"?

like i initially (and still for the most part) believe(d) i think
the "yeah" is sarcastic like life *is* the most important thing dummy, you
only live once..., our life is what we are, etc...
on the other hand maybe the "yeah" is more literal, like i *do* take
myself too seriously and maybe i should just lighten up and go with the flow
and/or that my life is so inconsequential in the vast scheme of things that
to overvalue it, is ludicrous....

or maybe it is some some kind of dichotomy or (what's the name of
that french dealy where a phrase has two meanings, one normal and one
suggeting something more devious or wicked?)... well anyway or something
like that....

anyone care to share their thoughts....?

i       tony "the chickenman" -- houston, tx                    g
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i've been reading back through some of the posts that were written
around when i first subscribed (though i don't remember exactly when
that was...) in hopes that i would find my first post. no luck yet,
but i would like to throw out something to y'all that i was reminded
of with reguards to names for ig fans.

stranger than intimate chickens

;)

that one has been my favorite thus far....

anna

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hi guys

3 things:

1. can anyone tell me if the cd version of jcs and the fm radio broadcast
are exactly the same?

2. entertainment tonight had a little bit on the ellen coming out thing, and
according to mary hart, there is an episode in the works where ellen falls
for a girl (supposed to be laura dern) and there was also something else
about a therapist or something that would turn out to be oprah winfrey. so
it must be truly coming soon...

3. my sister used to love frogs so much (when she was about 4) she held them
and squeezed them and until unfortunately most of them died. (they breathe
through their skin.)

that's it. have a good weekend! lori

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does anyone know how i can get tickets to the shows at penn state and
philadelphia? if you do, please email me.

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i was just wondering if anyone knows when the indigo girls new cd will be
out? i heard around march and i want to go out and buy it. please email if
you know for sure.

lisa
"the hardest to learn was the least complicated....."

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hi all,

long time no post! hi to all my old and new list-buddies! actually i
haven't had a chance to do more than scan the subjects of most of the posts
since last fall, but i've saved them all religiously (*lots* of diskettes)
so that maybe when i have two seconds to rub together i can do some
catching up... but at any rate i usually scan my messages before
saving/reading them, and i saw duncan's post:

at 10:29 am 2/20/97 -0500, derek l. duncan wrote:
>anyone else planning on going to the 3-28 show in davenport, iowa?
>if so, anyone interested in a pre-show list get together? i am not very
>familiar with the davenport area, but we could surely find a place.
>
>let me know.
>
>derek
>dlmsduncan@compuserve.com

yes!! my guitar buddy sheryl just called me up this morning to tell me
about the concert (i know i know i would have known first if i'd been
keeping up) and she's getting us tickets! she's just started working in
davenport (she's a vet) about a month ago, and is in the process of getting
a house... if she gets one in time, i can see if she'd be up for having
some list-buddies over for a bit of a hooley. i'll let you know how it
goes as soon as i can.

well, gotta run. as kermit says, time's fun when you're having flies...
(i'm working too late!)
take care y'all,
naz

i took that test a while ago. described my personality to the nit
pickity details, i was quite flattered to be compared to emily (by
jess). i being an infp myself. although i forgot what it stands for,
maybe i'll go dig through my draws for the results...
leah

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i delurk momentarily in the hope that someone on this list might be
from san diego; and further, might be interested in attending shawn's
show at the 4th & b--tickets on sale tomorrow!
dave from san diego.
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hello all,

i was wondering if anyone out there in ig-land has this past summer's
newport ff boot, and if they do, would they be willing to share it with
little ole me. i only have 1 boot to offer in return, but i can promise my
undying gratitude and devotion. so if anyone has it, please let me know.

thanks!
;)
lanie

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> ok, definately morbid topic...but like a car wreck you must watch, we are
> all reading these posts and thinking of our own experiences.
> ok, next morbid story?

awwright... nothing like sad little animal stories to nudge me out of
lurkdom... but only for a minute, then it's back under my rock :-)

when i was about seven and me and my older brother lived in pretty rural
area, one of our cats came back one day w/ a tiny little baby rabbit in
it's mouth (a gift for us, apparently)  it was no more than 2 weeks old
and i was pretty devestated.  my brother took care of it, gave it a nice
burial and all.  what he didn't tell me 'till a few years ago was that the
same cat proceeded to come back four more times, each time with one
of thumper's little brothers or sisters.  nice guy that he is, and
knowing how i feel about animals, he decided not to tell me about the
slaughter.

five rabbits. no prarie dog... sigh.

wow... what a sick thread, but i couldn't resist adding on!
    at the stables that i ride at, theres a million barn cats running
around, so my instructor was telling me this lovely little tale about
one of 'em.
    one of the cats (this little scrufty thing that i
o-cat-lover-extrordanaire wouldn't even play with) was pregnant.  she
had her kittens in the pasture and had no idea what to do with them.
so, get this, she ate them.  ate her own kittens. yikes!
  the grooms were only able to save a couple of them.  that one grosses
me out ever time!

leah

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i think we've all been listening to chickenman too long....

margaret

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whoo hoo! thank you, thank you! (arms above head...)

first, i got susie b. to post that day last year when she promised she
wouldn't...

second, i got smettles@aol.com (hi cathy!), a lurker, to post earlier this
year when i asked about screen names...

now, my mission is complete: i have coaxed lurker katie "cutie" grant out
from under the rock to post about her serial killer cat...and it's only
been a week and a half since the boston list party when susie b. and i made
a promise to kt that our mission in life was to get her to post.

[kate, since you were so good about coming out from under that rock (i know
it was hard), i'll buy you a drink on saturday...name your poison!]

wow...i'm am on a natural high now....back to our regularly scheduled
programming.....

joni :o)

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hello everybody!

i'm posting in a desparate plea for ig bootlegs. see, i gotta have
something to watch while i do my step aerobics (and do i ever look sexy in
that hot pink spandex!). the thing is, see, i can't dub videos cause i
spend all my money on workout clothes so i can't afford a second vcr.
i have stacks and stacks of audio bootlegs, and would be more than willing
to trade 3 or so of them for 1 video bootleg, so postage and whatnot all
equals out.

i already have the following videos:

on the road to austin
austin city limits
london concert/disney channel

so, if you are in posession of other indi-video and would be willing to
trade (or just dub for a tape and sase), please, oh please, hear my cry!

thanks y'all,
chris ii
(who's kidding about the spandex)
hi richelle, my gf in utah!

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hi,

i was very pleased to hear about the new ig concert series planned in march
and april.
hopefully, this will be only kind of a demo or �pre�-tour ...

maybe someone on the list still knows some details about summer tour dates
already scheduled ...

bye & a nice working day ...
klaus

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i just found out about another show that i don't believe has been mentioned
yet. this one is monday, march 24th in ann arbor at the michigan theatre. i
believe tickets have already gone on sale.

deb

in a message dated 97-02-18 06:41:15 est, bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk (john bond)
writes:

<< after i'd been
through the house, the only thing i could think of was the ig song
"virginia woolf", and what emily sings about the connection through
time to another person, even though you will never meet them. >>

that is ironic, because when i was in wash dc last summer and toured the
national holocaust museum, i couldn't get "this train (revised)" out for my
head for days. it was like a narrative while i was seeing the horror, by non
other than amy ray.

it's amazing how emily and amy's lyrics are so haunting....

jan

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the ig hotline now has the college dates posted on it and they promise more
info as bookings are made.
the telephone number is (770) 333-7040.

in a message dated 97-02-20 15:55:27 est, derek writes:

<< anyone else planning on going to the 3-28 show in davenport, iowa?
if so, anyone interested in a pre-show list get together? i am not very
familiar with the davenport area, but we could surely find a place. >>

hey!

there is absolutely no way that i am missing this show, and i am very
familiar with davenport--see, i have lived here 24 of my 30 <sniff, sniff>
years (sorry, been going through a little "midlife" crisis since i lost my
"twentysomething" status).

anyone notice that the show in on good friday? (gee, i get the day off from
work and i get to see the girls -- could it get any better than that?!?!)

anyway.....if anyone wants info. on where listees could have a pre-show get
together, i can definitely help. all i need to know is how many, the time,
and the type of place where everyone wants to congregate!

just email me at: ugosister@juno.com

angela (i'm sooooo excited--tickets go on sale in 2 days!!!)

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sorry to write so much nigc, but i was just curious as to what everyone
else's personality types were, if tey know and have taken the mb test. (if
not, it's posted on the 'net and i'd be only too happy to give you the
url...) anyway, i just remember that when i did the pa governor's school
the summer between my sophomore year of high school and my junior year, we
all had to take the mb test. they wanted to group us all based on
personality traits, or something to that effect. anyway, it was rather
surprising when we went over the results to discover that all of my close
friends and i had the same "type"...enfp.

i was just curious to see how many of us listees and ig fans share the
same personality type. just an odd thing i was wondering...

meg
mkmst23+@pitt.edu

*i want to meet you barefoot, barely breathing...*

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>
>> from mr. showbiz:
>>
>> ellen may come out to oprah
>>
>> we know we've been telling you about that "very special episode of
>> ellen" for months, but it finally seems as though progress has been
>> made. tv guide reports that the title character of the abc show will
>> indeed come out during may sweeps, and will do so after falling in
>> love with a lesbian, possibly to be played by laura dern. according to
>> the magazine, ellen degeneres's character, ellen morgan, will come out
>> to her therapist; confession queen oprah winfrey has expressed
>> interest in the role. the special one-hour episode will center on a
>> visit from an available guy with whom ellen went to college. but
>> instead of being drawn to him, she's attracted to his female friend,
>> who is a lesbian. during the course of the show, ellen will come out
>> to her friends. the script for the episode has already been written,
>> and degeneres apparently worked closely with the writers. the script
>> has been submitted to execs at disney, and except for a few revisions,
>> they liked what they saw. it will next be submitted to execs at abc
>> for approval. the episode is not the season finale, which means that
>> there will be a few more episodes for ellen and her friends to deal
>> with her rediscovered self.
>>
>

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the girls will be at the michigan state theater on march 24th. you
can purchase tickets online with ticketmaster. they are on sale
now.

http://events.ticketmaster.com/

beth
noel@mich.com

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i absolutely refuse to talk about my experience with gerbils.

cindy

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date: thu, 20 feb 1997 18:33:01
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for public release

        in a demonstration of concern over the growing military crisis in
chiapas, mexico a group of musical artists led by amy ray and emily saliers
of the indigo girls and zack de la rocha of rage against the machine will be
traveling to the village of la realidad on february 27th and march 1st of
1997.  they are accompanied by 22 indigenous leaders, human rights
activists, fellow artists and friends.
                the trip is both an expression of solidarity and support for
the rebel indigenous zapatistas, who have been unable to secure a set of
agreements on indigenous rights and culture from the mexican government. the
rebels have been firm in their search for a political solution to the
conflict and have held fast to a truce since january of 1994.  their talks
with the government have broken down however.
        the delegation hopes to visit with members of the community and
observe with their own eyes the kind and nature of military harassment to
which the zapatista communities are subjected.  the delegation will express
support as well for the indigenous agreements which to this day are
unacknowledged by zedillo's government. in an expression of solidarity and
hope for the future, the musicians hope to share their music as well.  .

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davenport!!  i'm there!!  this is so cool!  angela, naz, etc., i'll
finally be able to meet you!!  i'm dragging a couplea non-list friends
too, 'sthat okay?
indigo girls!  haven't seen 'em since summer of 1994, when i was totally
disappointed in their non-band show...hope there's some backing this time
(sorry harry!!)...anyway, i bet they've changed a bit!
ani and dar in iowa in april...yes!!!  everything is so exciting right
now!  (and...off to do homework...)

love,
suzi

well, i have three things to contribute. the first two are on tragic animal
deaths. the third is on song lyrics in real life.

1) at my sister's nursery school, they had a class guinea pig that the kids
were aloud to handle. on day, a little boy in her class named steven said
"look what i can do!" and squeezed that poor little rodent to death infront
of the class. oops.

2) the mom of one of my mom's friends was doing the laundry one day, but got
ditracted from loading the washing machine by a phone call.  when she came
back, she closed the door and put it on.  about 15 minutes later, she was
walking by and saw the cat pressed up against the window.  horrified, she
called her husband and begged him to come home to take care of it.  how
terrible . . .

3)the first line or two of language or the kiss "i don't know if it was real
or in a dream/lately waking up i'm not sure where i've been."  wow.  i had
this really powerful dream in which a friend of mine (who i haven't seen for
a while) came to me and said she'd always be there for me no matter what, and
that she'd be closer soon, just give her a chance.  when i woke up from it, i
knew it had been a dream, but i had this strong feeling that it was real
also.  that she had been responsible for those vibes coming my way.  a week
later i got a letter from her and then on saturday she got e-mail.  is this
not odd?  also in the dream she said she and her s/o had just broken up, and
the first thing she said when she got e-mail was that they had broken up
right around when i had the dream.  eerie . . .

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * *
"when you learn to love yourself you will dissolve all the stones that i
cast"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

* * * * * * * * * * *

i'm not going to be on the list for a while as i have been grounded....*blush* i know i'm 21 years old...but i still live at home where my smart mouth gets me into trouble...i also have a job that takes up 40 hours of my time a week...
i will be at the list party in texas, bringing my vcr and some tapes
sara: huggers grrrl!!! miss ya!!
sara: huggers grrrl!!! miss ya!!
oops..sorry bout that hiccup there...
i'lll be getting my puter back on the 26th...see y'all then!!!

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hi there,

well, i am surprised how many people know about this test. i took it
while i was in high school, and i came out as an infp, but for some
rerason i thought it was wrong and that i really was something else, but
now i know that i definitely am one. so are all my good friends...go
figure.

anyway, my brother (who is not a fan) wrote me and told me that ig are
going to be broadcast over the internet on feb 25th. (www.monsterbit.com)
i looked it up, and it seems like it's going to be the4 hte show from
malibu in october. check it out if you can.

wendell

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

i can't take any more!!!!!

for some reason i keep reading these posts with this morbid fascination
and then i want to go outside and sand off all my skin and burn myself
like those cats on fire in dead man's hill, just for being human.

people suck!!!!!!!

okay, i'll stop reading the morbid pet stories.  i'll just delete and be
quiet.  but i just had to get this little bit of release.  every story i
read makes me want to cry.  i'm not saying you all suck, just humans in
general for the shitty shitty things we do to other animals.
bye now.

*************************************************************************
"you stopped and pointed and you said, 'that's a crocus,'
and i said, 'what's a crocus?' and you said, 'it's a flower,'
i tried to remember, but i said, 'what's a flower?'
you said, 'i still love you....'--dar williams
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu
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somone wrote:

>>> my little brother flushed my one week old kitty down the toilet.
>>> it died.

gawd, i don't know why this reminds me of this, but i'll share anyway,
when i was about 7, and my little bro was 3, we were in the back of a
van, driving somewhere, and he got mad at me and threw an etcha-sketch at
me, narrowly missing my eye, and now i have a nice scar under my eyebrow.
why i find this so funny, i don't know, probably cause i was a mean big
sister and deserved it.

love, and still protesting the lack of pnw ig shows by not including any
igc in any post,
sundara, pres-y-dent, sbmfc

(subliminal message: joni cyr!! sneak out and visit me))

"look dad...a rope!" ---amy ray

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leah wrote:
> i took that test a while ago. described my personality to the nit
> pickity details, i was quite flattered to be compared to emily (by
> jess). i being an infp myself. although i forgot what it stands for,
> maybe i'll go dig through my draws for the results...
> leah

yeah, infp's rule!! woooo hoooo !!

tom

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cindy wrote:
> i absolutely refuse to talk about my experience with gerbils.

there was the time when i was about twelve when i pulled, well, most of my
pet gerbil out of my cat's mouth . . . but i still had to be proud of her
hunting skills . . . <sigh>

tom

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i remember it as though it were only yesterday. ( and that would be a
lot of yesterdays ago).

i was in grade five in primary school. i came down for breakfast,
looked out of the kitchen window and saw a cat eating something white in
the middle of the back yard.

it was dithers, my favourite guinea pig. talk about distressing. i had
to stay home from school.

anyway, on to more cheery things.  a friend and i have pretty much
definately decided to come to the us and see the ig.  we plan to follow
them around for a few weeks on tour.  is this a viable thing to do?

we thought we would hire a car or camper and just follow them.
obviously it would help in our planning if we knew when and where they
were playing. we would prefer to do it around the south where the girls
are from (or at least start from there and go wherever they go).

the other thing would be getting tickets. do they sell out incredibly
quickly? it may be a logistical nightmare, i just don't know.

so what do you think? any suggestions will be greatfully received.

penelope (in australia)

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ergghhh... i keep telling myself "delete! delete!" but i am drawn to the
gore, what can i say? here goes:

when i was quite small (5ish?) my brother and i caught a bird in our
dad's fishing net (the kind with a handle)--don't ask me how--and, i
guess, we wanted to keep it. somehow it ended up getting sat upon by
yours truly. i felt immensely guilty for its death, and, if i remember
correctly, i prayed for forgiveness repeatedly. i was a bit of an
obsessive little kid :)

none-death-related hamster story (altho' goodness knows that anyone who
has ever had hamsters has plenty of that kind of story):
when we got my hamsters, we were told by the store clerk that they were
both females. well, besides the fact that we sometimes saw them, umm,
_fighting_ ;), we noticed that one of them was getting swollen flesh on
the rearish underside and the other wasn't. we actually called the store
and asked if it was sick, only to be told that we actually just had a male.

it's even weirder when you consider that i was in ninth grade and my mom
didn't know what was going on either...

contributing to 'delete' button usage worldwide,
jenn. brown

hi you fabulous listers !!!!
hey !!! remember when hte was broadcast on the net
via realaudio ??? i know that some of you were successful,
while others (like myself) were merely frustrated :(
i need to make it work for me so pleasepleaseplease
can any of you computer gurus who know how email me
privately ?????

because guess what tomorrow night on internet alfredo
there will be a brodcast of live
psychic drag queens on the internet (plug plug)....my
close personal friend daviii..... i mean magda-nanda
will be one of them :):)
cool huh ? and ...well..uh...in galileo emily sings about
reincarnation and that's kinda like psychic drag queens.

so please wont you help ???
thanks bunches !
love !
binky

has anyone out there been able to get in touch w/douglas corner re. tonight's
daemon showcase?  daemon was able to give me the address/tel. #, & to tell me
that the cover is $5.00, but they don't know what time the doors open, & the
club only fits about 150 folks.  we're driving a few hours to get there, &
i'll be veeeerrrrry cranky if they tell me to go away.  :)  (gee, i wonder
why?)  any help would be appreciated. . . thanks, all.  sorry re. bandwidth.

-danna

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yesterday ('cuz my mail server is sooo slooooow), gwendigo said:

> every story i
>read makes me want to cry. i'm not saying you all suck, just humans in
>general for the shitty shitty things we do to other animals.

gwen honey:

in every little morbid pet story that has been told, each death happened by
accident.  either an unknowing adult, another little four-legged creature,
or a nieve little human caused the deaths.  there is no malice in this.  i
am also reading into these posts how badly everyone feels about these
senseless deaths.  no one is gloating about killing animals...it's just
that we all have experienced it and are using this forum to share the
stories and maybe feel like we're not alone after talking to others who are
in the same boat.  i agree with you...every story i am reading makes me
want to cry too.  but as forest gump said: it happens.

flame me if you want...i won't even donne the gear....i think i'll go home
and my little kitty extra kisses tonite....

joni :o)

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intro:
hi to the indigo land!!

i'm ferran and i(sorry, we) have got out of the map of our
lurkdom kingdow to send my/our quarterly extra-long post
(oh nooo!!,... it seems the ten commandments!!)
...well, i think it's worthwhile (imho)
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index:

1- agreements
2- our ig-introduction
3-"bittersweet me": my trading/tape tree history.
4- you are an obsessed fan when...
5- ig on tour...
6- fan club stuff:
7- spanish review:
8- the pal/ntsc thing (only for europeans/aussies):
9- recommendations:
10-more agreements:

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1- agreements:
first of all thanks to everyone who made possible the newbie tape tree,
mainly jude hunter and lisa mayne.thanks for letting us know/enjoy
the ig pre-history (i have no words to explain hom much
joy & excitement til the apes arrived!!...)
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2- our ig-introduction:
i'm in the list for aprox. 1 year and it's time to tell my ig-story
(in fact, our ig-story bc we're two ig-fans here in val�ncia).
i am an huge rem fan and i was looking for rem-related (1994-5) and
ig was between the names in my list ( an rem faq quoted them ).
one day flying over the pages of a music catalogue-order sale shop
when i discovered the swamp ophelia tape for 5 $. i had never heard them
but it was cheap and rem-related (by the way, here music ist quite
expensive). so i ordered the so tape among other items. when the charge
came, i thought:
"the other items (beverley craven, stp, barenaked ladies...)
are at least a bit known but this (=ig) i don't know them at all.
i can expect the worst of it, so it will be the first thing to hear"
so i put the so first while doing some reports. the first two or
three songs i thought: " ummm, it's quite fine." but also thinking:
"wait for the bad songs. i'm sure they are coming". but no, they
didn't come and my interest was increasing as long as the tape sounded.
that waiting-state fully ended when 'the wood song' came, in that moment
i thought: "no!!, it can't be true!!". i took the headphones and heard
that song again 4 or 5 times. from that moment i stood more than two
hours with the headphones on delighting that incredible music .
in that moment the shock-effect was terrible, i loved the whole tape:
every song was a discovery to me. then, i phoned to my cousin monica
and told her to come. she came and heard the so with me: she fell
in love with the tape too...
and that was just the beginning of the rest of our lives:
(timeline:)
- 15 months ago: we ordered their official albums from us
(rop,ig,nis & botbya),=== ig total fan crazyness
- 14 months ago: we subscribed to the list (my e-mail overloaded
during the first 3 months )
- 6 months ago: trip to barcelona's collector fair to get collector's
stuff (quite good hunt)
- 4 months ago: we ordered the rest of their releases (1200cc,
watershed,
jcs) and related (honour the earth,..) from us.
......
- in the future: who knows??
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3- "bittersweet me": my trading/tape tree history.
on july '96 , when i was more than 2 months in the list, i had time and
i decided to get some ig live stuff, so i sent a post to the list and
waited for a response. two listers answered and i set up two trades:
one of them (with chris talbot) was perfect, but the other trade
(with s.d.sutton) was a fiasco: i sent 3 tapes with all my illusion
and got back only excuses : i don't have time, i have personal
problems,..
and so forth.result: i never got the tapes back. obviously i was quite
hurt and disappointed: i felt she had fooled me. so it took me a lot
of time (until december) to set up another one. meanwhile i've refused
some trade chances (i'm sorry lori).
but now everything is o.k.:
i have my copy of 'on the road to austin' (thanks andrew) and
5 wonderful tapes (thanks lisa).
pd: sorry but i can't be any branch of a tape tree or so bc postage
between us or uk and spain are quite expensive and it would cost you
more money than the necessary.
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4- you are an obsessed fan when...
you buy a pair of french trousers bc on the label says it's:
'indigo collection'...(it's true and i could scan the label and send
to anyone who wants it)
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5- ig on tour...
we're so jealous of all of you talking about the tour dates..(
that ig & tracy concert in chicago sounds just as a dream )
here it's like calling from the moon: we're far from everywere.
we're thinking about the london dates as our unique chance to
ever meet them but our budget is very limited and until 2 weeks
before those dates we won't know it for sure...
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6- fan club stuff:
(sorry if it has already been told)
last month we received the fanclub newsletter plus the
1200cc photo (half page size) signed by amy and emily
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7- spanish review:
i have a little article (6 lines) from the spanish
journal "el pais" in 1987, making an observation about the ig.
( the only thing i've found about them here). it's a little bit
offensive and ironical. for that reason i prefered not to post it to
the list, but if you want to, no problem.
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8-the pal/ntsc thing (only for europeans/aussies):
at the end, monica bought an ntsc/pal vcr (they're a bit more
expensive than the normal ones). we can say that it's worthwhile.
the image and sound is perfect,not only in pal mode but also in
ntsc mode. it has been the only practically measure to be able
to watch 'watershed' and the jcs videotape... and we couldn't
wait for more. we've made proofs to make the conversion, but
til now:
- sound: well
- image: well except for 4 white lines which cross the screen
horizontally
we'll keep on trying......

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9-recommendations:
we highly recommend you 'paradise in me', the last "k's choice"'s album.
it is a bit more tiny (electrical guitars and so) but it's really
great. one of the best albums ever heard. more info and clips:
http://dra.nl/~kschoice/

pd: by the way, for you who have www-access, and wanting to know new
artists, the best way is to download them from the net. the most
usual formats are wav, aiff and au formats and you can hear them
for instance with cool95! (and, obviously, a sound board but they're
not expensive).
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10- more agreements:
thanks  y'all for keeping the beast in us, informing, annoying, enjoying
(that 'x-mas ig gifts' post deserves to win a prize)...
thans to this (not too) little community who makes me to be
anxious every morning to read my e-mail... we love you all!!
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pd: sorry for my poor english
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"beat me up                    |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv              |      & monica soutto
to help me look for                    |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"      | universitat politecnica de
valencia
k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(..still spain but not for too long )
europe
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i just read in yesterday's "alligator" (school paper) that ig are coming to uf in april for earth day!!!!!!! oh my god i'm so excited!!!!!!! sorry for the caps.....i can barely even breathe at this moment.

-rich (sbmfc charter member and official mentor)
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everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me.
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howdy y'all.

apologies for the lack of ig content, and this "last minute"
posting.

a have an extra ticket to the shawn colvin show at lupo's in
providence, ri. i would like to give it away to a kind friend
here (-: , as opposed to giving it away at the door to some
stranger. the show is um, like tomorrow (saturday 2/22).
is there anyone out there (preferably in the worcester ma area)
that might be interested?

oh, btw... the show is sold out. depending upon who and where you
are, we can make arrangements (share a ride, meet before the show, etc.).
unfortunately, the deal will close at about 4:00 p.m. today (2/21),
as i will not read my e-mail again until monday morning.

e-mail me privately, pleeze. thanks.

julie

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the ferron list reports the march 18th ig date (that i mentioned the other
day) as elmira university, in of all places, elmira, ny. add it to the
calander!

deb

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i realize most of you will be bored by this b/c it is yet another new list
member introduction.  *sigh* i know.....anyway, hi im megan and ive been
reading the list for a few months so i guess it wouldn't be correct to call
me new.....just a lurker.  so anyway im a senior in h.s. in missouri (
boring place once you leave st.louis or kansas city) and i have a story to
share that may just brighten your day (or not)
i headline at a coffee shop called the silverado in jefferson city mo.  one
night i got a hankering to sing only indigo girls songs.  jeff is a medium
sized town and it is very conservative.  coffee shops are not a big deal
most of the time.  usually on a friday night about 30 or 40 ppl show up.
but for some reason this night about 200 ppl showed up at this tiny little
coffee house and here i was singing songs by a group no one had ever heard.
needless to say everyone loved it, i am now a big deal in a po'duck town,
and all the record stores have sold out of ig albums.  i am begining to
regain faith in human kind :)  but i digress.  anyway my problem is i have a
very low voice and i cant sing much by emily.  i am a female tenor really.
amy's songs really fit my voice but im running out of new things to play.
i'd like to suprise them some night and do something they've never heard.
so....if the spirit is willing would anyone send me a copy of color me grey
if i pay postage/give you the tape etc?  email me privately pleez.  oh
yeah.....and if you are ever in mid-missouri stop by the silverado cafe
downtown jefferson city.  great music on saturday nights :)
sorry for being so long please dont flame me

megan ---->littlesparkofstrangefire@juno.com

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interested in a cd copy of the ig and allman brothers promo, club r&r?
email me for details.

--derek
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i must be in a sharing mood (probably has something to do with being an
infp). any hoo, how about april 9th, university of tulsa, tulsa, ok.
(jocelyn, susan -- now they decide to come to oklahoma! :)

also heard a rumor of april 24th in durham, nc.

deb

en(t/f)p i was hedged on the tf thing.

for anyone that is lost, here is a key:

i/e introvert/extravert
n/s intuitive/sensor
t/f thinker/feeler
p/j preceiver/judger

i would speculate that we'd have a lot of nf's on this list. i'd also place
bets that emily is inf(?). and i would say that amy is en something...just
my opinion.

jennifer

in a message dated 97-02-20 23:57:06 est, cindyl@corecom.net (cindy lelake)
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<< i absolutely refuse to talk about my experience with gerbils. >>
share your experiences with the list, we are an open and understanding group.
share your story, we are here to listen.

mindala

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i never meant to imply fault on the part of the posters.  but this thread
was born of chickenman, and i completely share amy's opinion on the
senseless death of animals: the five prarie dogs and a rabbit were not
*intentionally* killed, but often the things we create as humans roll over
multitudes of animals smaller or weaker than us, and just because it's not
intentional doesn't make it right.  we do shitty things to insects when we
splatter them all over a bus windshield while on the road to austin.  a
child accidentally squashes a lizard or is too young to understand that
throwing a cat out a 20 story building will kill it--this is not malice.
but don't you ever think that an incidental, unrecognized killing is the
worst kind of all, simply because we don't think it's worth noticing?
there are few other animals who do as much killing as we do daily for no
reason at all, or for sport or whatever.

never fear, i recognize the need to share the experience. it just reminds
me of how many busdrivers and how few amys there are in the world. and
for the most part, humans suck.

>
> gwen honey:
>
> in every little morbid pet story that has been told, each death happened by
> accident.  either an unknowing adult, another little four-legged creature,
> or a nieve little human caused the deaths.  there is no malice in this.  i
> am also reading into these posts how badly everyone feels about these
> senseless deaths.  no one is gloating about killing animals...it's just
> that we all have experienced it and are using this forum to share the
> stories and maybe feel like we're not alone after talking to others who are
> in the same boat.  i agree with you...every story i am reading makes me

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howdy,

my apartment-mate went to duke, and her boyfriend is still there -- he
says that the "senior concert" there this year is ig... i don't remember
if this was on that tour date list that came out a couple weeks ago, but
i figured i'd post it just in case. i could probably get more info from
him if y'all haven't heard this already...

he says i can have his ticket (too bad i live in philadelphia!)

later y'all,
debbie

hey ya'll,

i don't know if anyone has asked this already, but... does anyone know
if/when the dc tickets go on sale?  also i didn't see that show on the
tour list on the sony site when i checked.  is it still a show?  i was
scheduled for 4/20.  anyone?

thanks! melissa

you know...i have been busy and not reading all of the posts..i read
yours(gwens) then i read elizabeths....i get too upset reading these
...so i think i will just delete everything with that title...a good idea, no
?

i've always felt bad for the bugs myself...i know i've shared this on
the list but i used to get so upset on car trips that my mom started
telling me that they weren't animals but rags and i was mistaken...
this pacified me (somewhat) being as i am a gullible type...then,
on one occasion after mom said "oh honey , it was just a rag."
my little brother blurted "oh yeah ??? a rag with legs ???"
*sigh*
i love amy for writing chickenman, it's about a lot of things, but the
thoughts regarding the carnage on the road trips really hits home with me....
i get what is akin to a physical thump to my chest and throat when i see
these things. i flinch and wince.
and being a forester...i see alot of carnage (hunting season is the worst)
oh crap i'm depressing myself...i better go now
later !
binkles

"it's natures way !!!!"
(steve, the coolest animal show host in the history of the universe !)
(who's wife and co-host terry almost fell into a gorge and then got
bit by a pissy python....you never saw that on wild kingdom !;)

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hiya kids,

is thery anybody else who can send me the list of shows? i randomly
deleted a box of mail earlier today, and i dunno when and when their
playing. oh, i hope they play in california :)

with stained glass smiles,
xochitl :)

i have a question for all you tapers out there.

the ig are coming here to psu on the 15th of april, as you all know. i was
wondering if any of you know whether the ig allow people to connect to
their soundboard or not. i will be working that show, and i have access to
a dat deck so we're talking awesome sound if they allow me to connect.

thanks :)

mike

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here's the scoop...

michelle malone will be playing at the tin angel in philadelphia on
wednesday, march 19th. unfortunately you have to have 21 id to get in.
that's because of the liquor control board, so if that pisses you off
either start lobbying or get creative. ;)

tickets are $6 plus $1.50 service/handling charge.  no refunds and no
exchanges, and they don't tell you about this age restriction when you
order, they just won't let you in.  the place is at 20 s. second street,
(215)928-0978.  they hold the tickets for you there.  the show starts at
8:30 and the doors open at 8.  i forget who's playing with her.  it's
general admission unless you do dinner (reservations required) at
serrano's (international home cooking) beforehand, in which case they
reserve you seats within ten yards of the stage and probably pretty close
for this particular show.

the folks i was planning to go with are underage, so right now i have one
ticket. if any of y'all are planning to go, i'd be up for the whole
dinner thing, so send an email and i'll coordinate.

thinking about coming from far away?  here's more to entice you...off the
beat (best college a cappella in existence) has their spring show that
friday and saturday, and also that saturday is an lgba dance, i think for
all philly colleges.  and philly is just a cool city, so it's worth the
trip.  :)

i think that's it.  oh, the *red beans & rice* thing.  it's a collection
of essays written by bode noonan and subtitled "recipes for lesbian health
and wisdom."  found it yesterday for $3.95 in a used book store...a quick
read but a good one, tons to ponder and reflect on.  reminded me of all i
really need to know i learned in kindergarten, and also of some of the
essays in 50 essays that worked <--another book i like to recommend, and
not just if you're applying to college.

yours,
henry beatitudes
a.k.a. audrey beth stein

hi!  how are ya'll?  i'm new here--so you'll have to bear with me while i
discover the joys of finding others who love the ig!  hmmm...i have also
wondered about the "yeah" in "closer to fine"--definitely one of my
favorites!  i think they mean it in a thoughtful way--as if life really takes
a lot out of us..or, like you said, tony...maybe puts a lot into us...  by
the way, i'm sorry i wrote to you personally instead of on the mailing
list...:)  i'm a little slow! :)  what do ya'll think?  have a great day,
everyone!

love,
katie =)

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hey y'all, ok, i'm not totally done with midterms, but i'm elated to have
2 hard ones out of the way, even without knowing my grades (ugh) and to
help share my utter joy, i'm offering my boots again.  this time, the list
is bigger, thanks to the help of some very kind-hearted ig listees, too
many to list i think, but hopefully they know who they are.  anyway, if
you're interested in seeing what i have, don't want to waste bandwidth
with my list, then just privately email me, and i'll bop the list on over
your way and we'll take it from there.  this offer is open for oldies and
newbies, actually "all you need is a dollar and a dream!"  (sorry, just
got back from my orgo test and my brain is still trying to recover =)

veronica

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da chickenman said,

here goes :)

kim

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hey buddies and pals...

     i just got handed a cool cool free lance job (i'm a graphic artist
     chick). anyway, i need indian type background music for a slide show
     (all women groups preferred). so far the only group that i know of
     that has cd's/music available is ulali <sp?> does anyone have any
     other suggestions? sorry for the wasted bandwidth...

kira

hi!
some of my friends and i are planning on going to atlanta for a few days
during spring break.  the dates are march 10th -13th and i was wondering if
anyone could give me some good concerts or sights that we might want to check
out while we are there.  we will be driving so we'll have a car to sight see
with.  the only problem is that we are all under 21 which means we need
concerts and sights that are underage.  thanks in advance for anyone who can
help!
always,
mic
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date:         fri, 21 feb 1997 15:58:40 +0000
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well, intial exctasy is over. the article in the uf paper wasn't
clear--student government only approved the funds for student government
productions to ask ig to come here in april for earth day.

so now, all you florida people--it's very important for us to all e-mail
russell and lobby for ig to come here.  and all the rest of you too--help us
out!  if you want to come to florida to see ig, i'll give you a free spot on
the floor.......  i think it would be really cool to have a huge list party...

-rich benson (sbmfc charter member)
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i was bright-eyed and laughing
-a. ray
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sorry to do this, but i couldn't find the email with the dates on it in my
box... i don't know why, but probably just a delete happy finger...
anyone have a copy they could forward me? thanks,

alec

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hi all,
i haven't posted in a while but i have a question.  i'm planning on
being at the tulsa show on april 9th and i was wanting to try and boot
it.  if anyone would like to send me pointers (i'm a boot newbie:d) i'd
appreciate it.  if anyone happens to hear any additional info on the
show i'd love to hear it (venue, ticket info, etc.).  i'm from tulsa but
i'm puzzled as to the venue they're playing at.  ig in my hometown i
couldn't have written a movie script any better than this.  thanks again
everyone.
keep it groovy,
ryan

hi all!

just wanted to let anyone who cares know that i have a new e-mail
address. i can now be reached at tuesdays_child@juno.com. i can also
still be reached at my old address, dc3545@cnsvax.albany.edu. i'll check
it regularly.

tuesday's child

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hi i'm really sorry to bother you and i know a lot of people already asked but......
1. has any one heard about tickets for the pa shows at lasalle and university park?
is it open to the public when do tickets go on sale and through who? that kind of thing.
2. and if any one has the same kind of info for the hofstra show.
i would greatly appreceate any info8-}
here is my e address jofarn@ny.frontiercomm.net

"strawberries" yea!

in a message dated 97-02-19 20:40:46 est, alisont@netcom.com (a. taub)
writes:

<< the duo's next album, shaming of the sun,
>>
uhhhh....what happened to map???

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deirdre please email me privately with your
address, the scone recipe keeps bouncing back
anjeanette
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ok, so before folks get too carried away with reasons not to post morbid
animal stories, i feel compelled to tell mine, all 4 of 'em. the last
one isn't so morbid, just cute. the others are gross.

1.  hamster #1 escaped & disappeared.  we finally figured it out the next
day when we heard scrabbling in the furnace vents.  don't know if she
eventually starved/thirsted to death, or if she found her way down to the
furnace & fell in.  horrendous way to go, either way.

2.  hamster number #2 died a peaceful death after a long & productive
life.  i came home from school the next day & saw a bag 'o donuts on the
counter, with the paper donut bag wrapped in plastic to keep them fresh.
yummy, i thought, & went to take one out.  the bag was curiously soft, &
when i reached in, guess who was there instead of the donuts?

3. here's the worst one: i was hand-rearing an abandoned kitten from
birth, after its mother fred had abandoned the litter.  i had tediously
bottle-fed the little creature, rubbed its belly to make it poop & then
cleaned it up just like a mother cat, for 6 weeks.  at one point i even
had to feed it by putting the tube all the way down its throat to its
stomach.  one night i fell asleep on the couch with the kitten on my
chest.  about 4am i woke up & couldn't find the kitten.... until i
reached down between me & the back of the couch - the poor thing was
*flat*.

there, now i feel a little better! ok, here's the cute one:

4. pet mouse escaped & lived happily ever after under the fridge,
taunting the cats & dog & living off cat food & crumbs.

here are some other little items, either gross or cute depending on your
point of view:
1) when i was 5 i gave slugs rides on my tricycle,  and   2) unlike other
*mean* kids' experiences of plucking off poor daddy long legs' legs, when
i was about 3 i actually liked them & let them crawl all over me. (and
no, i never graduated to pulling their legs off) .... ooh, and that
reminds me of a *really* gross one which you probably won't want to read
& i'll probably regret telling anyone: in kindergarten, my little
boyfriend & i would throw dried-up dog-doo at each other.  there, now i
said it, now you know all my evil secrets & if i ever run for political
office i'll just have to face the fact that it's all there for the world
to see on the ig archives.   hmmm, wonder what these last stories
indicate about my meyers-briggs results....?

kathy

"everything in moderation, including moderation"

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on wed, 19 feb 1997, lori brinkman wrote:
> >>
> >> trillium. it's a three-petaled flower....
> >
> >and it grows on the forest floor.
> >
>
> and it is the official flower of ontario and it is illegal to pick them here
> because it takes many years to grow or something like that. =)

well here in california the official flower is the poppy and it's illegal
to pick them too, but i thought it was because you can make opium out of
them.....

on a similar note, did you know that you can flunk a drug test by eating
poppy seeds? (i.e.on bagels, in muffins, etc.)...something to consider in
case you ever have the need to flunk a drug test!

;) marianne

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on wed, 19 feb 1997, 42nat1 wrote:

> hey everyone,
>
> well, my dead animal story goes like this...
>
> back in november, i guess it was, my lovergirl and i were on our way to
> scranton from pittsburgh.

okay sorry but i cracked myself up and i just had to share because you're
all so cool. but when i read this i saw scranton and i thought it said
**scantron** ...you know, the type of fill-in-the-bubble test answer
sheets....ummm...nevermind, it wasn't that funny after all

~8-p marianne in a very twisted state of mind, if you want to know why,
please e-mail me privately!

~o~    "dance with me forever, this moment is divine
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/_\     this hell is not mine..."
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all righty, then:

my youngest daughter brought home a pair of gerbils from her fourth
grade teacher.   the female had four babies.  we were thrilled.  too
thrilled, in fact:  we watched the babies too much and mama gerbil
decided to kill them by chewing their legs off.  "horrible" does not
adequately describe our family's response.

but we're not done.

dad gerbil, apparently driven to a psychotic state by the carnage,
decided to chew mom's legs off. more horror. dad then died within a
very short period of time, of natural causes.

all of this occurred about eleven years ago. to this day, i look upon
gerbils as evil incarnate.

there. that's it. sharing is healing.

cindy

okay sorry to be such a geek, but where is the davenport concert
(venue) and what date. please e-mail me soon! this could decide
whether i go or not!
leah

ok. i'm still paring down my cd collection and thought i'd offer up a couple
to the list:
1) michelle malone and drag the river -big black bag - special promo cd
contains: 1. big black bag (from the album relentless produced by lenny kaye
2. eavesdropping: a casual conversation with michelle malone
and lenny

kaye.

2) theodore: an alternative music sampler
contains 1. kate bush - be kind to my mistakes (non-album cut)
             2. poi dog pondering - bury me deep (special version)
             3. the rave-ups - she says (come around)
             4. social distortion - let it be me
             5. living colour - talkin' bout a revolution (live)
             6. toad the wet sprocket (come back down)
             7. o-positive - overflow
             8. the psychedelic furs - house (long version)
             9. public enemy - welcome to the terrordome
            10. big audio dynamite - if i were john carpenter (non-album cut)
            11. nuclear valdez - run through the fields
            12. indigo girls - kid fears (live)
            13. shawn colvin - shotgun down the avalanche (live)
            14. big dipper - another life
            15. 3rd bass - triple stage darkness
            16. prong - your fear
best offer by wednesday 2/26 at midnight gets them. yes, you can bid on each
cd individually. just let me know ...

rob in atlanta

ps - is land o' lakes hot chocolate the best or what? especially the rasberry
.. ummmmm

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i just got viva la diva's cd greatest hits volume 1 last week and i
love it! thank you whom ever it was that booted the red light cafe
concert with amy, emily, michelle malone, and cooper seay. it's
because of that boot that i got the cd in the first place.

anyway, i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the lyrics to
the songs on the album.  the music rocks, but i have trouble hearing
the words, and i really prone to mr. limes as it is.  i was hoping
that the lyrics would be included in the liner, but they're not.  so,
if you know where i can find them, please let me know.

thanks! :)

anna

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