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come to lunch with me!!!!!!!!! please. love always, abby and sandy

hi all you pnwers, ben is the one whose diligent work we can thank for
the ig coming to the west coast for this pre-album-release tour! kudos
to ben!!! thanks for your contribution to our fun!!!

sue and kathy

ben samrick wrote:
>
> note to all indig girls fan's on the west coast:
> they will be playing in eugene oregon on april 4, 1997
> emily and amy will be playing an all accoustic show without the band.
> as far as i know, it is the only show on the west coast.  tickets went
> on sale today march 7.  there are aproximately 1000 tickets left.  they
> can be phone ordered at (541) 346-4363 or (541) 687-5000.  get them
> while they are available.
>

any of you web geniuses out there able to help me? i've got this
frames-based page set up, and sometimes when i select a link it opens in
the proper frame, and sometimes it doesn't. same link. i can't figure
out if it's netscape, my source code, my computer, or an incompatibility
between frames and either .shtml pages or the web counter i just added.

tom? amy? anyone out there willing to take a look? everyone on my floor
who knows this stuff (most of my floor) has left for vacation or is
watching princess bride, and i'm frustrated because i want to get this
*working* for y'all but i need to pack and should've been asleep hours
ago. sorry to vent...but i'm sure a number of you can relate. round peg
square hole determination.

the page is now at http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein/listees/index.shtml

thanks. :)

....audrey

great thread sue!!

> 1.) what new instrument should emily learn to play *this* month? (it seems
> like she learns to play something new all the time...)

i know this one i know this one!!
(well actually i dont.. i hope that she hasnt learned
to play this instrument yet, so i dont look like a dope:p )

a dulcimer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
either hammer or lap, i *personally* prefer the lap
but hammer gets so much better sound quality for playing
in say an open auditorium...
in fact, i offer to train emily on my own personal dulcimer
which is so *old* it could be wise and dirty from the weather :)
and while i am on my own personal fantasy
i can see em and i sittting there talking about music
and teaching each other many thing about stringed instruments
i would warn her about letting amy break any strings *giggle*
and ask her to come to the feast of the hunter's moon
in my old hometown next fall, to jam to old dulcimer
music and sleep out under the stars...

ok.. i know it's silly.. and if anyone out there
knows if emily already knows dulcimer, please private e-me?
cos it would be tooooo splendiferous if she did, *sigh

knowing she wastede alot of breathe on one question,
hoping she isnt flogged with wet noodles and
wondering if she can pick out "fare thee well" in aeolian mode,
anjeanette
charter member of the yknib fan club
and permanent member of the secret society of bird lovers

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quiet love hangs in the door of my house --audre lorde
a sheet of brick-caught silk rent in the sun. echo, 1958

hi all,

i just met my first fellow listee tonight. (thanks for the invite to the
women's
resource and action center fundraiser at the u. of iowa, suzi!) you
all seem to be great people and i hope to meet more of you in the future.

***will all the people who'll be at the 3/28 davenport concert consider
having a
meeting before/after the show? i've heard from a few of you already, but
no
one's made any definite plans. also, suzi says i'll see her in her list
shirt.
when am i going to get my chance to get one of these? i.e. -

***when is the next time ig list t-shirts will be on sale? i'm a
newcomer and am anxious about this. anyone have an extra one left over
from a past sale?

i'm sure what a person wears to a concert isn't a big deal, but would it
be
o.k. to wear my daemon records shirt to show my support of
independent music and amy's label?

btw, is emily involved at all with daemon records? don't take this as a
question about their personal lives, but beyond the beautiful music they
make
together as the ig, do a&e have anything else (professional) going
together?
it seems odd to me that amy would have a label, but em would not be
involved in the business at all (besides an appearance on the honor cd).

if this topic was discussed before, please forgive this all-unknowing
one.

also, how are people getting to hear the new ig songs before shaming of
the
sun comes out (besides hearing them at concerts)? i must really be out
of it
(or knee deep in cedar rapids).

***speaking of cr, i've heard from fellow iowans from waterloo (hi
karen!),
davenport (hi angela!), and iowa city (hi suzi!), but is anyone out there

from cedar rapids????????

knee deep in cedar rapids,
lisa

<< i know this one i know this one!!
(well actually i dont.. i hope that she hasnt learned
to play this instrument yet, so i dont look like a dope:p )

a dulcimer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>

make sure it doesn't have satan in it :*p

cool thread! ok ummm..

>>1.) what new instrument should emily learn to play *this* month? (it
seems
like she learns to play something new all the time...)<<

any of the following: hurdy-gurdy, balalaika, or the zither because they're
all stringed instruments and are a hoot to say =). ( try saying
hurdy-gurdy without smiling)

>>2.) if emily and amy were comic book superheroes...what superhuman
strengths
would they have? weaknesses? what would their purpose as a superhero be?
what color cape???? <<

they'd be faster than a speeding ecological disaster, more powerful than a
social injustice, and able to leap prejudice in a single bound!!  emily
would be mightily distracted by a really well grown tomato and amy would be
slightly trepidatious around median cats.  purpose...to bring peace, love
and all things indigo to the world of course.  emily would look smashing in
ecru and amy would need a fuschia cape....not!  indigo, naturally.

>>3.) if you had just invented a new drink, what would you name it?? (name
has
to relate to something ig) just to note..this doesnt have to be a
alcoholic breverage (although if it was an alkie drink, what the heck would
be in the concoction?)<<

mine would be an alcoholic drink made out of the first 4 bottles i pull out
from the liquor cabinet....lets see, if i made one now it would be
rumplemintz, scotch, tequila and midori. i'd have to call it "world
falls" cause if you actually drank that thing, that's what would happen
<hic, hic>

on fri, 7 mar 1997, kim lamonda wrote:

> why would i get "flamed"? i was just stating a fact, and it's no secret to
> the world that tori amos was raped, thats the basis of most of her lyrics.
> she also started a rape orginazation for rape victims called rain ( rape and
> incest ) therefore she must not think it's too insensitive to talk about it.

it's actually rainn (rape, abuse and incest national network). it's got
a home page at http://www.cs.utk.edu/~bartley/other/rainn.html.

mat

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sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.

>
>  jojo was a man who thought he was a woman, but he was another man
>  jojo was a man who thought he was a loner, but he knew it couldn't last.
>  get back- the beatles

ohmigod!!!
i thought that was the real line!!
chalk another one up to that rascal mr. limes...

right... i think we have officially decided that tori amos is now
straight, and that's it as far as that subject is concerned, ok? we
shouldn't really try to pry into the private lives of people like
tori and the ig, although sometimes we can't help it.

and as far as a new instrument for emily to play, i nominate two -
the kazoo and the duck call... now they would make interesting
accompainiments......

john.

"oh, these little eartquakes,
here they come again....."

tori amos, little earthquakes

in a message dated 97-03-07 21:39:25 est, you write:

>i'm not gay, and i love the indigo girls. as a matter of fact i am married
>with 3 children. but unfortunately, my husband says the same thing....

sorry to beat a dead thread but i gotta shed my longtime lurker status & jump
in here.
i go through the same b.s. with my wife. i'm not gay - i'm married with 2
children & i love the music of ig. my wife gives me crap about ig being gay.
i've tried to convert her and get her to listen to their music, (with some
limited success - she likes ghost & galileo) but for some reason she has a
real hard time getting past this.

when i started listening & really liking ig i had no idea they about their
orientation - nor did i care. when i found out i was a little bummed because
i knew i have to put up with this kind of crap.

anyway, its good to know that i'm not the only one who has to put up with
this from their so. "thanks for listening"

jerry d.

someone wrote:

<< for some reason, a seventh grade
social studies teacher received this ig stuff in the mail from scholastic,
which produces social studies/current events magazines for high schoolers.
i
was wondering if anyone knew about this, cause it's really cool.....my
school
is becoming an ig haven!!! i am trying to get my hot little hands on the
tape, >>

it's because of this lyric contest; it's through scholastic. i read that
yesterday at the web sight . . . it turns out this is an annual thing
scholastic has every year. the grandprize is the concert at your school, and
then runners up get autographed shaming of the sun cds.

i already have plans to make the rounds to my ol' middle school (dump that it
is) and start hitting teachers up for their tape. i think my 6th grade
teacher might . . . she liked me a lot . . .

you know, this song writing thing is harder than i thought. i'll get a good
verse, and then that's it. it's ok . . . i'm not having a stroke yet . . .

-elizabeth

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this guy has 1200 curfews used for $12.50 in case anyone needs it..reply
to him.
we are fortunate ones,
joe
http://www.mooonbase.com/fortunateones

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date: fri, 07 mar 1997 20:04:53 -0500
from: the other one <otherone@flash.net> <--- reply to this address
newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace, rec.music.marketplace.cd,
rec.music.marketplace.misc, alt.marketplace.compact-disc
subject: fs: over 2500 used cd's - part 4

the other one - online music
used cds / set sale - part 4
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incognito                  remixed                     8.00
indecent proposal          soundtrack                  7.50
indiana state mass choir   worth it all                8.00
indigo girls               1200 curfews               12.50
indigo girls               rites of passage            8.00
infectious grooves         groove family cyco          8.00
ink spots                  greatest hits 1939-46       7.50

prices are in u.s. dollars, shipping is extra.

don't forget to visit our web site:
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--
steve thomas
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the other one - rare musical auctions

good day, all!

anyone know how i can easily and quickly join the ig fan club?
i've already e-mailed igfan@rcam.com, but i've heard no
response. please give me advice. do i need to write to the
decatur, ga address? or call the phone number?

also, for those of you already in the fan club, what are the
most significant benefits of joining?

oh, one more question: i hope this isn't the case, but i feel
i must ask:  does excitement  lessen for you the more you
go to the ig concerts?  i heard a comment from someone
to this effect about going to three concerts - that the fourth is
just another one.  if so, why go? because i personally would
want to keep the fires burning.  is too much of a good thing
bad?  then again, i've heard from people who have gone to
20 ig concerts and they still seem excited each time.  i suppose
it is different for everyone.  what are everyone's thoughts on
this? (especially you die-hard go-anywhere-to-see-a&e
followers).

lisa
lschreihart@juno.com

on sat, 8 mar 1997, anjeanette milner wrote:

> > 1.) what new instrument should emily learn to play *this* month? (it seems
> > like she learns to play something new all the time...)
>
> i know this one i know this one!!
> (well actually i dont.. i hope that she hasnt learned
> to play this instrument yet, so i dont look like a dope:p )
>
> a dulcimer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you look like a dope. :) emily
plays the dulcimer on "hey kind friend," so i am sure you will like that
song. it's a lap dulcimer, btw, and satan sometimes sleeps in it.

margaret

ok.. i have learned the error of my ways
the beautiful emily already has a dulcimer
and it is on the bumbershoot boot

i dont mind looking like a dope tho!!
it would be wonderful to teach her how to play
and tune *grin*

what it really shows is that i dont have a boot
to my name.. "not that there's anything wrong with that"
thanks to all the kind friends who showed me
the error of my ways... can't wait to hear the song myself!
anjeanette.. grinning like a dope and *still* trying
to tune her dulcimer
--
email: boilrmkr@bu.edu

quiet love hangs in the door of my house --audre lorde
a sheet of brick-caught silk rent in the sun. echo, 1958

pj wrote....

>>>i was thinking it is probably emily who wrote the song burn all
the letters
if shed your skin is an amy song. i am guessing that shed your skin
is an
amy song cause:

we came in blue cobra
vinyl stripes, wearing thin
shed your skin - volunteer........ar - indigenous woman - volume ii,
number
iii

dont ig usually have an equal number of songs on each album (if you
include
chosen covers).......anyway if that is the case then burn all the
letters
would be an emily song. what do you think?<<<<<

pj, i agree.

"shed your skin" just seems amyish while any song which mentions
letters seems more like es.

also, with all this song speculation i have concerns for my fellow
listees. if the album didn't come out for 6 months or so, what would
the mental state be for everyone?

melissa

i think emily should learn the tuba. that could be fun! =) i also think the
kazoo has potential . . .

superheros, hmm?  you know that sort of spandex type suit superman wears?
their costumes would be like that, except more shiny, and in indigo, of
course.  they would wear purple capes and purple jet-rocket cowboy boots
(with orthopedic supports so they won't hurt their backs or knees).  amy
would have a big a on her chest, and emily a big e.  they would have
superhero utility belts, complete with guitar picks and extra strings (for
amy).  they would fly -- well, no, they wouldn't fly because of emily's fear
-- they would *run* all over the world playing songs for mean, ignorant, and
all otherwise obnoxious people.  once the bad guys heard their music, they'd
be forced to love one another right then and there, smiling on their sisters
and brothers as they made huge donations to hte,  and they would suck the
polution out of rivers through flexy straws!  . . . when relaxing, of course,
a&e would wear their binky list shirts.

i need to think about this drink thing . . .

-elizabeth

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> oh, one more question: i hope this isn't the case, but i feel
> i must ask: does excitement lessen for you the more you
> go to the ig concerts?

no!

i would say, however, that if you're planning on going a long way to one
that you should definitely do it towards the beginning of your stint.

this summer, i went to... (counting)... gosh, i can't remember.  at least
four, maybe five ig concerts in about a two week period.  the process of
going sucked a little for all of them because none were reserved
seating--we had to camp out all afternoon.  but they all f*ckin' rawked,
man!  (that was me doin' my impression of an indigo surfin' dude.)

the last one, however, sucked big time.  we drove from mass. to norfolk, va.
we had expected this would be a 10 hour drive or so, and we were meeting
up with some old friends who lived in d.c. and told us that norfolk was
only an hour south of them.  heh.  not!!!  so, that was a 20 hour car
drive only to arrive two hours before the show (and, miraculously, there
were only 20 or so people in line).  we soon found out that, to be in
front of the stage, you had to be 21+ (gotta love the beer garden!).  of
course the indigo virgin who i had brought was not 21+, so this was a
problem.  we got her in with only a minor bribe.  (me:  will i risk
getting arrested to give my friend the gift of indigo?  the answer is
obvious.)  we were packed up with 100 sweaty smelly beer-guzzling fans,
and the temperature was a mere 100+ degrees.  we all decided that we
could have passed on this show.  it was just too much work to only be
miserable.  and, driving 20 hours to get there...

we decided that next time we'd like to see them closer... like at our own
school!!!! ha ha ha. woo-hoo. oops, 'scuse me.

ahem, so, back to the original point (margaret re-adjusts the tie she's
not wearing with her p.j.s)... so, no, there's never too much indigo,
but a labor-intensive concert at the end can be a bad thing. :)

counting the days to mount holyoke, (woo-f*ckin'-hoo!)

margaret, who will temporarily lose her title as "least obsessed die-hard
ig fan" for the next few weeks while she's seein' ig five (count 'em)
five times.

nniiiccckkkkkkiii, flamer, flame me baby!

susan b. marine wrote:
>
> hi pals...i got this from the other ani list and i thought it was a hoot to the
> highest degree! enjoy...and isn't it good to know ig fans are the only lyrics
> manglers?
>
>  jojo was a man who thought he was a woman, but he was another man
>  jojo was a man who thought he was a loner, but he knew it couldn't last.
>  get back- the beatles

i have to say thank you thank you thank you!!!

i also have to admit that *i* sang along to this one myself:)

selena

> oh, one more question: i hope this isn't the case, but i feel
> i must ask: does excitement lessen for you the more you
> go to the ig concerts?

too much live indigo? is that possible? weeeeird. i can't imagine ever
being ho-hum about seeing amy or emily singin and playin their gee-tars,
like, right there in front of me. woohoo. :) i've only seen them 3 times
(or 3.1 if you count amy doing one ig song with ani at an ani concert). my
4th show will be eugene. i'm soo excited about it, i'm just happy it's not
2 months away. i don't think i could cope with waiting that long.

i think the answer to this question has more to do with individual
personality types than an answer that would work for everyone. if you get
bored easily you might get bored after seeing a&e only 3 times (but it
boggles my brain thinking about it). i might not be so willing to drive
700+ miles roundtrip to see them after my 10th show -- but i won't really
know til i've seen them 10 times. :)

joe is the person most qualified to answer this question. he's seen them like
3,459,242,897,384,783 times (at least).

kristina

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she wore lemon andrade@az.com
to colour in the cold grey night http://www.az.com/~andrade

ok. this is meant to be sarcastic. do not take this seriously. please!
it's tongue in cheek folks!

i played with the numbers, just for the hell of it and figured out what
percentage of the respondents were gay, straight, whatever. here is
irrefutable proof that not all ig fans are gay.

on sat, 8 mar 1997 11:44:37 +1100 sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au> writes:
>seeing as
>how i've just hit the hundred mark i figured i'd post out

>===
>*** nigc section ***
>
>- sex of respondees:
> male - 19
> female - 79

of 100 questionnaires answered, 98 responded to the gender question.

>- sexual orientation of respondees:
>        gay men - 4
>        gay women - 30
>        bisexual men - 1
>        bisexual women - 15
>        straight men - 12
>        straight women - 32

of those 98, a total of 94 responded to the sexuality question. 2 male
and 2 female did not answer. here are the results in descending order.

33% - straight female
31% - gay female
15% - bisexual female
12% - straight male
04% - gay male
02% - undetermined male
02% - undetermined female
01% - bisexual male

make of it what you will. those of you with doubting partners now have
statistics to back you up.

>- top 10 other favourite artists/bands:
>        1. melissa etheridge - 40
>        2. ani difranco - 26
>        3. dar williams - 25
>        4. rem - 18
>        5. sarah mclachlan - 17
>        6. tracy chapman - 16
>        7. tori amos - 14
>        8. mary chapin carpenter, michelle malone - 13
>        10. kristen hall - 12

gee,  if we're all gay, and all the artist we like are gay too,  does
this mean that all of the above artists are also gay?   woohoo!  i wonder
if chapin is single!  ;-p

tuesday's child
charter member -- yknib ssim fan club
o+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+o
the camaraderie and warmth between us breaches places within me
that had been closed off and permanently sealed. -- audre lorde

eeek! sorry all! i just accidentally deleted the message i wanted to
respond to.

will the person who mentioned hunters moon get back to me? thanks!

on sat, 8 mar 1997 08:45:57 -0700 kristina <andrade@az.com> writes:

if you count amy doing one ig song with ani at an ani
>concert)

oh wow! i would love to hear that!! does anyone have a boot of that
show?

i'd like to see emily play the drums.

- jen hall

============================
"and when you're learning to face
the path at your pace very choice
is worth your while." - emily saliers

>i'd like to see emily play the drums.

that would be cool. i think amy or emily would be really great with a
violin in her arms....

-liz-

can i say thank you to whoever sent me the atlanta magazine article ... it
was a nice surprise, because when i saw the message on the list saying the
article had 'gone', i didn't realise you meant it had gone to me ...
thanks a lot.

to everyone else, i will be putting the article on my own web page soon,
and sending it to the list and to carolyn at lifeblood, so you'll all be
able to read it. if the magazine haven't already displayed it, but even
if they have, it'll only be until the april edition comes out ...

mat

i saw amy play the drums once at a show in athens with the band she had
going with michael lorant and sheila doyle..ack..the name escapes me...
but she wasn't too bad!
we are fortunate ones,
joe

on sat, 8 mar 1997, jen hall wrote:

> i'd like to see emily play the drums.
>
>  - jen hall
>
> ============================
> "and when you're learning to face
> the path at your pace very choice
> is worth your while."  - emily saliers
>
> --
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> to unsubscribe, send email to listserv@netspace.org
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>

> if you count amy doing one ig song with ani at an ani
>>concert)
>
>oh wow! i would love to hear that!! does anyone have a boot of that
>show?

i've been looking and looking. :( it was the last song of the encore on may
24, 1996 (vancouver bc canada -- not to be confused with the victoria show
which was a day or two earlier). they (amy, ani, andy, and sara lee)
performed "don't give that girl a gun."

if anyone knows of someone who collects ani boots or was at that show
please ask them if they have a dub of this particular show. i'd be happy
with just that song on tape (but the entire show was excellent).

kristina

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to colour in the cold grey night http://www.az.com/~andrade

christopher m. becker wrote:
> the only song you'll hear _for sure_ is closer to fine.  they'll
> probably end the concert with it -- kinda tradition.  galileo and
> least complicated are also crowd favorites.  plan on hearing most of
> shaming of the sun.  after that, pretty much anything goes.  the only
> songs you can count on _not_ hearing are blood and fire and romeo and
> juliet.

did i miss something? why can we count on _not_ hearing romeo & juliet?

tom

---
tomcat ____    we should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom
       \ _/__  that is in it - and stop there;  lest we be like the cat that
        \\  /  sits down on a hot stove-lid.  she will never sit down on a hot
          \/   stove-lid again---and that is well;  but also she will never sit
               down on a cold one anymore.    -- mark twain

i got this from another list.

-------- forwarded message --------

subject: top ten list
date: 07-mar-97 at 06:49
from: internet:ashap18ol.com, internet:ashap18ol.com

top ten signs you're too close to your pet

10. you start sending it e-mail. (skiered)

9. every other day you bring your dog his slippers(shrike310)

8. you have matching sweaters.(catenj)

7. haven't thought of anything else since seeing the cloned sheep
picture.
(airbrusher)

6. you get jealous during mating season. (toyby4)

5. she needed a kidney, and well, i had two ....(bjfergy)

4. share the same tooth brush. (rrbow)

3. your pet has a middle name.(jhamiii)

2. i love my pet too much to besmirch our relationship by submitting a
derogatory entry to the ho top ten.(tlandrum)

1. instead of going out for drinks with your friends, you want to go
home and
have a nice bowl of milk.

>>  jojo was a man who thought he was a woman, but he was another man
>>  jojo was a man who thought he was a loner, but he knew it couldn't last.
>>  get back- the beatles
>
this isn't a misheard lyric - this is somebody mixing up two verses.  the
first verse begins:

jojo was a man who thought he was a loner
but he knew it couldn't last.

but the *second* verse begins:
sweet loretta martin thought she was a woman
but she was another man

-vic, who's been awfully chatty this week.

on sat, 8 mar 1997, joe hamilton wrote:

> i saw amy play the drums once at a show in athens with the band she had
> going with michael lorant and sheila doyle..ack..the name escapes me...
> but she wasn't too bad!

this is funny. when i saw this post about wanting amy to play the drums
i couldn't help but wonder if the drums would survive the experience.
:o) evidently they did. <g>

margaret

>r&j might be played, as opposed to b&f which almost certainly won't,
>but i really doubt it.  its nothing ig have said, its just a "feeling"
>i get.  amy has resisted strong requests for it in the past and i
>really don't see it coming back. my personal conjecture is that r&j
>kind of took on a life of its own.  it got too popular and amy decided
>to cool it off a bit.  also, its an amy solo and a cover.  the solos
>on this tour will probably be leeds (em) and chiapas bound (amy).

i have a boot of amy doing blood and fire, supposedly after saying she
would not do it anymore. i don't have it handy, but it is from a show in
canada (i think) she says something to the effect "i am going to do this
song, because i said i would do it last time.... but i didn't do it
then.... you've got to promise not to tell anybody"
something to that effect anyway.

if anyone desires the exact date, i can dig it up.

---derek

does anyone have emily's chords for all along the watchtower? i'd ask for
the tab, but i'm trying to be realistic. = )

-liz-

hey everyone,

        the hofstra concert is in 8 days!!!!!!  i'm sooo psyched!!!  anyway,
has anyone planned a get-together, either before or after the show?  i
know some listees are going to the concert together from jen's party.  i
was thinking maybe the listees who aren't going to jen's party could
meet them there somehow......just a thought.  i woud love to meet some
fellow listees.  if anyone has any ideas or if something is already
planned, let me know....or post to the list and see who's interested:)

jonny

--
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 wuman@warwick.net
 a+e=ig
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                  "all the shiny little trinkets of temptation
                   something new instead of something old, all
                   you gotta do is scratch beneath the surface
                   and it's fools gold....."
                                                     - emily saliers

i have these really cool articles written by amy and emily from
indigenous magazine. if you'd like a copy send me your addy. get back
to me soon because i am only going to send a limited number!

leah (who, being a whippersnapper, is currently racking her brain for
good lyrics for the contest)

my opinion on the too many concerts issue is that while i don't think i
could ever tire of seeing them live playing different setlists, i can
only go see a given tour twice or _maybe_ three times before the setlist
gets old for me...i really noticed this after my 4th show on the swamp
ophelia tour, and while it was still good, there just wasn't that much
more to it, and for my poor college student budget, it should probably
have been skipped.

of course, that's just my opinion. i may be wrong.

darren

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darren m glass                              "everybody's got the right
darglass@owlnet.rice.edu                         to be different..."
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~darglass/      assassins, stephen sondheim
==============================================================================

i thought i read somewhere that amy said they used to do r&j live 'till they
got a nice note from mark knopfler's people asking them to please not perform
it anymore.
am i imagining this?

:-) jessica <---- going to her 1st ani concert ever in 2 hours! 2nd row
center!!!

hi all,

i hate to admit it, but i never heard of ani before i came onto this
list.
shoot me, please.  anyway, things are just happening one after the
other.  first, i ran into the davenport ig concert by mistake, and i got
great tickets to that.  now, i've just run into a flyer for ani in cedar
rapids
on april 9.  anyone in the iowa/illinois/wisconsin area want to go with
me, or
anyone who's already gotten their tickets want to meet me there?
rockwell
employee services bought group tickets, so i may be able to get better
tickets than what is currently being offered at the box office.  i went
to the
paramount this morning, and seat availability is okay, but i decided to
hold my breath until monday to see what rockwell's got left.  anyone who
is interested in me getting tickets for them through rockwell, let me
know.
(tickets are $19.50)  if anyone is interested in going with me, let me
know
by monday morning.  e-mail me with a short message at
lmschrei@collins.rockwell.com.  thanks.

also, i see ani's going to be in my hometown of milwaukee at the eagle's
ballroom on april 12.  (too bad she's not going to be at the riverside,
or i
could see that show for free.  oh, well.)  if anyone will be there or if
i can
tag along with anyone, i'd be interested in driving back to milwaukee
that
weekend.  please let me know.

lisa

in a message dated 3/7/97 1:35:23 pm, listserv@netspace.org (automatic digest
processor) wrote:

>i know why they
>won't play blood and fire.

sorry if this is a stupid question - but why won't they play blood and fire?

chris

hi everyone,

john bond said:
>and as far as a new instrument for emily to play, i nominate two -
>the kazoo and the duck call... now they would make interesting
>accompainiments......

this brings up a whole new realm of possibilities for the
pennywhistle solo in "closer to fine"....

ha. :)
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"hey god, we're the bad kids, we're so nasty, mean and vile.
god looks like a guidance counsellor; god's got that smile.
god says, 'how could this be? that's really odd.
i guess i'll have to check my records - silly me, you know,
i'm only god!'" - dar williams

i received this privately from margaret. i hope she doesn't mind. i
figure
that new listees may be curious.

on sat, 8 mar 1997 16:06:22 -0500 mhom@uakron.edu (martha hom) writes:
>
>>anyone know how i can easily and quickly join the ig fan club?
>>i've already e-mailed igfan@rcam.com, but i've heard no
>>response.  please give me advice.  do i need to write to the
>>decatur, ga address?  or call the phone number?
>
>        don't even bother...if you ever get a response, you are truly
>one of few!!  writing in any form usually does not invoke a response,
however
>some list members have been successful at having their questions
answered
>by calling the office.
>
>>also, for those of you already in the fan club, what are the
>>most significant benefits of joining?
>
>        you will occassionally get a postcard or letter about upcoming
>releases and may get something cool accompanying.  ( i got a 1200
>curfews guitar pick)  some listees have actually gotten photos, but
again,
>they seem to be very few.

it sounds like we (this list members) *are* the fan club.
am i far off?

lisa

i sorta agree, but five to me would be too much, least on a single leg of
the tour. i mean if you have seen them 2 or 3 times, you (as i was) are very
intent on seeing good shows. but after *10* i find more important things to
do. i actually passed on a show two blocks from where i was to go watch an
unreleased video debut. (course i made a complete jerk out of myself only 5
days before...i still worry about that, -- probably one of the reasons i
dont want to go backstage at all for a long time) i was freaking out when i
called to get a new bio and courtesy photo for the college paper so i can
write an adequate review of the two shows. i dunno, i mean, i could see
some special shows (small club, flunkie, ect) but five in one two month
span...i do not know who i could do that with -- even ani seems a bit
repetative after seeing her several times in the same tour.

mike r.
*very psyched for colby and unh*

hey everyone ..

after reading a copy of the amy article from the march '97 atlanta magazine
(who sent me this photocopy anyways ??? please e-mail me !!!)

oh anyways - i noticed part of it quoting some of the lyrics from scooter
boys - "scooter boys & argentineans. europe she the blood of the indian ... a
chapter in the book on the americans. you're just another colonial terrorist
... here i sit in the land of plenty, cryin' about my own virginity ...:

and i remembered it from the end of shame on you - bootleg version - later in
the demo tour .... my tape is in the car, but for those who have sundara's
"mapped" boot, check out soy on side b - right at the end of the tape - i
think 2nd to last song .. i can't recall which show it's from - like i said
it's in the car ...

sounds as if scooter boys is going to be a very freakin' cool song
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

at 06:03 pm 3/8/97 -0500, michael reynolds wrote:
>i sorta agree, but five to me would be too much, least on a single leg of
>the tour.i dunno, i mean, i could see
>some special shows (small club, flunkie, ect) but five in one two month
>span...i do not know who i could do that with -- even ani seems a bit
>repetative after seeing her several times in the same tour.

i think it very much depends on the artist you are following around on tour.
for example, i went to four eagles shows when they did their "hell freezes
over" tour (no, i am not rich -- i was given press passes for two of them!
:) ) just because i loved the band, but i have to admit that the concerts
got pretty repetitive. same songs in the same order, same staging, etc. lots
of the bigger bands and solo artists are like this in their shows, from what
i have seen. with a band like ig, however (tori amos is another example),
every show seems to be different with its own song order, stage patter, and
magic (or lack thereof). consistency is okay in the sense that you know you
will get a good show no matter when or where you see them, but ig invites
repeat goers because of the variety, and i think every show would be new and
exciting. but then what do i know -- i've only been to one show!

just my $.02,

sara

sara krausert
the university of chicago law school
srkrause@midway.uchicago.edu

"lawyers should never marry other lawyers. this is called
inbreeding, from which comes idiot children and more
lawyers." -- kip lurie, in the film "adam's rib" (1949)

"oh the fear i've known/that i might reap the praise of
strangers and end up on my own."
-- emily saliers, indigo girls

*does excitement lessen for you the more you go to the ig concerts?*

if that person who told you that after going to the fourth show it's just
another show then they aren't paying attention.  i've been going to indigo
girls shows since 1990,  traveling up and down the west coast seeing at least
5 shows or more each tour. i've been as far north as seattle wa and as far
south as san diego ca.  so i guess i can say i've been to a few shows.  but
no, the excitement doesn't wear thin.

if you've ever gone to an indigo girls show you'll know that they put on a
great show.  of course each tour the show is heavily saturated with the new
material but they do a variety of the older material.  they'll change their
set list for each show.  i guess they realize they have dedicated fans that
will see multiple shows in the same city.  it could also be that they have so
much material and play a million shows on tour that mixing up sets is fun for
them.

the wonderful thing about indigo girls is their attention to their audience.
even in a huge auditorium you get the feel of a club setting.  it's you and
them.  they are very accomodating to their fans, they play requests.  i saw
them play in los angeles a couple of years back and someone yelled out
history of us (one of my personal favorites of emily's) and even though she
said she hadn't played it in such a long time and would probably forget the
lyrics she played it anyway.  it's the unexpected that makes their shows
special.

anyway this probably isn't anything new to all those wonderful fans out there
but hey it's one gals opinion. i'm taking my girlfriend to her first ig show
so it should make this tour a very special event.

on an all together different subject. has anyone heard that melissa is doing
the opening of the ellen coming out show and kd is making a cameo as a
singing waitress? it's gonna be a one hour special and should be cool

long winded in california, maria

someone needs to go check on mike...i think he's been kidnapped and his
assailant is posting for him! i begin to question even the littlest
assumptions i've made about life when i hear things like mike reynolds
being to too many shows in too short a time span! kidnapper..if you are
reading this..let mike go..he must go to shows! *sigh*..first margaret
and now mike...i'm going to have to start taking my parents to shows just
so i know someone :)
suffering from severe tour withdrawl,
joe

p.s. mike..i talked to emily about the casino happenings and she was
totally understanding ..as if we would expect anything else. keep your
head up.

on sat, 8 mar 1997, michael reynolds wrote:

> i sorta agree, but five to me would be too much, least on a single leg of
> the tour. i mean if you have seen them 2 or 3 times, you (as i was) are very
> intent on seeing good shows.  but after *10* i find more important things to
> do. i actually passed on a show two blocks from where i was to go watch an
> unreleased video debut. (course i made a complete jerk out of myself only 5
> days before...i still worry about that, -- probably one of the reasons i
> dont want to go backstage at all for a long time) i was freaking out when i
> called to get a new bio and courtesy photo for the college paper so i can
> write an adequate review of the two shows.  i dunno, i mean, i could see
> some special shows (small club, flunkie, ect) but five in one two month
> span...i do not know who i could do that with -- even ani seems a bit
> repetative after seeing her several times in the same tour.
>
> mike r.
> *very psyched for colby and unh*
>
> --
> administrative requests should not be sent to the list!
> to unsubscribe, send email to listserv@netspace.org
>         with the line: signoff indigo-girls
>

>oh anyways - i noticed part of it quoting some of the lyrics from scooter
>boys - "scooter boys & argentineans. europe she the blood of the indian ... a
>chapter in the book on the americans. you're just another colonial terrorist
>... here i sit in the land of plenty, cryin' about my own virginity ...:
>and i remembered it from the end of shame on you - bootleg version - later in
>the demo tour .... sounds as if scooter boys is going to be a very
>freakin' >cool song !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes! she put this in the middle of chickenman at bumbershoot! and it was
awesome. i hope she plays the entire song on the pre-release tour now that
it's complete. so anyway if you have the b-shoot boot you know where to
find it. :)
that was the coolest version of chickenman in the history of
chickenman-ness! yeah like i've heard them all (haha) but it was quite
incredible.

--k
p.s. i finally got off digest and back on the bounce list and i feel like
i'm part of the list again. digest made me a lazy reader and i read
everything too late to reply and comment. :)

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she wore lemon andrade@az.com
to colour in the cold grey night http://www.az.com/~andrade

hello all....i am new at this so please forgive me if my questions or
ramblings seem infantile... i heard somewhere that ig is going tobe
performing in ft. worth tx on april 10...is this true?...if so does
anyone know where i can go/call to get tickets?....thank you in advance
for any info you can provide :)

recycle religion...it's been done before,
nanzajellybean

"your actions will follow you full circle round" - _center stage_ by amy ray

>welll yessss ms sarah, they have. cause don't you know all the gay musicians
>are *best*friends and play together all the time, in fact, they aren't even
>allowed to drink a beer with non-gay musicians... and their dna makeup won't
>let them have harmonies together.
>
>susanna, mirroring the idiocy of the previous silly questions about the ig
>being gay

it is interesting that i just found out that me has played with holly near
(on her second most recent album, singer in the storm) on the title song.
there may be more to this than you think.

just kidding.

deirdre

hi kristina!
amy did a song with ani?????!!!!! what song was it?? this i have to hear!!
i love them both. if you find a boot, let me know!
- kim

okay i have one for you...
this one is probably easy, but the first verse of r& j always gets me.. " a
lovestruck romeo sings the streets a serenade"   is that right?? is that what
she says? and who is the origional artist of that song? was it bob dylan??
let me know!!   this is my favorite song. i think amy sings it with such an
intensity. the first time i heard it i had just bought the tape and i was
driving in my car skimming through it. fast fowarding through the songs. then
i came to this one. i just listened to the words, and the feelings that came
through the speakers. i got goosebumps. i must have rewound it at least a
dozen times. by the time i got back to work i knew all the lyrics!!
when i heard the origional, i almost died. i can't belive what she did to it.
isn't amy amazing?!!!   god i love her voice :-)
  - kim

in a message dated 97-03-08 19:54:59 est, you write:

<< " a
lovestruck romeo sings the streets a serenade" >>
i think that's correct. mark knopfler of dire straights wrote romeo and
juliet.

jennifer

okay, so this is the first time i've posted in a little over a year
probably.... things have been just too crazy, but i actually have time right
now to do more than just skim through all the posts. and it is actually done
so in self-interest (sadly enough), but let me preface my plea for help
with....

great big thank-yous to all the people who kindly sent me boots in the early
days of this new year!!!!!!  i've played them and played them on my way to
and from work, and i love them all!  chris, i hope you've tried that pasta
recipe already!  let me know how you like it!  to pooh40 (or pooh44??) i know
i was supposed to send you two tapes a while back, but only had one, went to
the store and they didn't have the kind i needed, and i haven't had a chance
since....  terribly sorry--i know it's evil of me, and i do apologize.

also, to meghan--wonderful master limb of this great loop 7--thank you for
your patience! hope you are enjoyed my tape; i put sasha's in the mail to
you this a.m.

okay, and now for my plea, my call to the collective kindness and generosity
of all listees.... it is this: i live in dc.  american university is but 10
minutes (at most) from where i live.  the lovely girls are going to be
performing there on 20 april, but alas tix will be sold only to au
students....  if anyone on the list is a student at au or has a suggestion as
to how i might aquire one of those coveted tickets...please email me!!!
  thanks ever so in advance!

i think this list rocks, and only wish i had more opportunity to post on all
of the threads, etc. i did order the two volumes of ig from rdr in atlanta,
and they were most helpful and so pleasant. made my day--not to mention
receiving the cds!!

okay, well, i'll retreat to my cushy cozy little spot here in lurkerdom, and
await your helpful responses patiently...

court

according to the liner notes of the dire straits greatest hits cd, it's
"...sings a streetsuss serenade..."

i'm not too sure what that means either, though.

darren

someone wrote:

>and i remembered it from the end of shame on you - bootleg version -
>later in the demo tour .... my tape is in the car, but for those who
have
>sundara's "mapped" boot, check out soy on side b - right at the end of
the tape
>- i think 2nd to last song .. i can't recall which show it's from - like
i

umm, this is from the santa fe show (8/25/96). (a completely awesome
show where they had a thunder & lightening storm and threw out the set
lists and blew an amp, wish i had been there)

anyway, like kristina pointed out, amy also sang this at bumbershoot
during chickenman, and, from listening to most of the boots from the
practice tour, i would say she did this same "somewhat of a soc" at a
couple of shows this summer. although, due to the large quantities of
wine i just consumed, i can't remember which ones....sigh....but the
basic content of it is the same in all of them, she just changes them all
a little bit, according to the faq (which y'all should read, cause it
would answer almost all the questions you might have and you would all
probably learn something) this little part goes something like this:

    - "hear the shotgun shiver / another arrow from the quiver"
    - "screwed up boys and argentinians / europe shed the blood of
        the indians / here i sit in the land of plenty / crying
        about my own virginity / hey blue blood you're nothing new /
        you see i come from privilege too / chapter in the book on
        the americas / we're just another colonial terrorist"

so "screwed up boys" may very well be "scooter boys" i guess we won't
know for sure until the album is released.

just thought i would share that.
(oh, and if anyone still wants a copy of mapped, i'm more than happy to
make you a copy, just email me and i'll send you the info)

love and unemployment,
sundara<--who is quite proud of herself for writing a coherent post at
this stage of her inebriation

helped are those who lose their fear of death;
theirs is the power to envision the future in a blade of grass.
-from "the gospel according to shug"

on sat, 8 mar 1997, darren matthew glass wrote:

> according to the liner notes of the dire straits greatest hits cd, it's
> "...sings a streetsuss serenade..."
>
> i'm not too sure what that means either, though.

interesting..  i had always thought it was "streetside serenade," which
made perfect sense.  so i explored, and webster's doesn't know what it
means either (2nd edition).  *shrug*

margaret

i just looked on the www and found the lyrics at:
www.lsds.com:80/music/lyrics/i/indigo.girls/romeo_and_juliet
"a love struck romeo sings the street a serenade"

i also found the tabs transcribed by timo tattari at:
         www.lsds.com:80/lsds/guitar/d/dire_straits/romeo_and_juliet.tab
just incase any of you guitar players out there are interested.
                                                                  crying because her cd player just broke,
                                                                                                             heather
"i sailed my ship of safety till i sank it, i'm crawling on your shore" e. saliers

this morning on "weekend edition" there was a nice long piece about vc.
i thought that y'all might be interested.

take care,
erica

any more word on the atlanta bombings my friends go to that bar all the
time

hello.  if you have not received a private email from me saying that i am
getting you a ticket for the indigo girls show at mount holyoke, then
that means that, as of now, i am not.  if you sent a check then i haven't
gotten it yet and won't before the last on sale date.  if you want to
make a plea for me to get you a ticket, please send it privately and then
i will get you one.  but i must know before monday morning so i can get
the tix.

i will see everyone in line on wednesday!!!!!

margaret

in a message dated 97-03-08 16:27:53 est, leah writes:

<>

you might want to check with russ rutter at hte about those articles.
he was sending out copies of the whole magazine last may for
$ 5 . i think they are a small production that runs on a lot of heart
and sweat, and not alot of money...so it would be good to support them :)
love !
miss b

ok - i just read a post that the au students are the only ones who can get
these. we really need two of these tickets!! please email me with any info
or help. thanks ever so much!

i think vc is coming to chicago soon and i've never heard him before.
as i often hear stuff about him on the list, and i judge the lists
taste generally to be quite good, would someone mind telling me what
kind of music he sings, etc... so i don't miss something good?
leah

concert boots update!

sorry for the yelling, but wanted to grab some attention. it seems as if
we have settled the one boot in questions and have the correct name and
date! yea! added several new branches. so, there are plenty of people to
help you get some great boots! the following gives directions, describes
the boots and finally, lists the branches. don't be shy, representatives
are waiting to take your orders. call now, oh, sorry, wrong commercial.

there are official trees now for both the uk and japan.

please read the entire message before you do anything!

so, here's how it goes...

1. there are 3 boots being offered through a most excellent boot
tree--official three-- (there are 4 that have offered to do all 5 of the
boots that carolyn gave me--you decide.) you may choose one, two, three
or go to the optional 4 or 5--optional two.

2. then just send an e-mail message to your favorite tree and
indicate
your interest and the number of boots you would like. no formality
here--just choose the boots and the dubber.

3.      the tree member will then send you a return e-mail giving you
her/his  address recommending that you be sure to send a note  that
lists
which boots you want as well as some other interesting item/quote/etc.
that you  think  they find interesting.

4. you will then send the appropriate number of blank tapes with a
self-addressed stamp envelope and your clever item described above.

5. yes, you may arrange a trade with the member of the tree.

6. if you are interested in getting all five, you may want to be
kind
and pay a little extra money and request boots from two people-- from
those doing the 3 tapes and then from those doing the 5 tapes. why you
may ask, because of the volume of tapes that the 5 individuals doing all
5 tapes would face. so, be kind to your fine dubbing friends...

7. if you have any questions, comments, problems, etc. please do
not
hesistate a moment to e-mail me and ask/write away. i will see what i
can do. if you like the boot liners and would like to know how to do
them or would like to get copies of others that i have made, e-mail me.
i have about 30 or so.

8. oh, yeah, the boots offered:

the following are the actual boots offered ( i call them the official
three)

1. birchmere, arlington, va, sunday, 11/25/90 90 min
welcome me, world falls, loves recovery, hammer and a nail (w/ mary
chapin-carpenter) crazy game, hand me downs, you and me of the 10,000
wars, watershed, southland in the springtime, play it again sam, romeo
and juliet, the moon and st. christopher (chapin-carpenter, amy, emily)
closer to fine, prince of darkness, strange fire

2. amy ray at singer/songwriter showcase, kristen hall, indigo
girls
at memorial hall, chapel hill, north carolina, 10/89 90 min
amy ray at singer/songwriter showcase
30 min or so
pushing the needle too far, hand me downs, romeo and juliet, 1-2-3,
blood and fire, come shining? w/ michelle malone, ballad of squeaky
fromme

kristen hall
5-10 mins
pride??, stranger in my bed, about 1/2 of another song i didn't know

october 28, 1989
memorial hall
chapel hill, north carolina
45 min
closer to fine, welcome me, love's recovery, pushing the needle too far,
lifeblood, center stage, southland in the springtime, world falls, left
me a fool, land of canaan

3. the diamond, toronto, canada, 7/29/89 90 min
91:36
closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, welcome me, center
stage, make it easier, land of canaan, kid fears, crazy game, blood
and fire, the girl with the weight of the world in her hands,
summertime, prince of darkness, strange fire, get together, sweet home
alabama/ blood and fire, all along the watchtower

**the following are additional boots that you can get from 3 very
generous
listers (i call them the optional two)

4. davidson college, davidson, north carolina, 1/26/90 100 min
strange fire, make it easier, kid fears, crazy game, pushing the needle,
world falls, love's recovery, land of canaan, center stage, 10,000 wars,
blood and fire, closer to fine, prince of darkness, secure yourself,
southland in the springtime, white house blues, watch tower

5. the beacon theater, new york city, tues, 12/4/90, 100min
welcome me, world falls, love's recovery, hammer and a nail, crazy game,
kid fears, land of canaan, you and me of the 10,000 wars, blood and
fire, puching the needle, watershed, southland in the sprintime, hand me
downs, the girl with the weight of the world in her hands, closer to
fine, prince of darkness, all along the watchtower, daddy's all gone,
wnew interview + 1 song

9. who are these generous people that will bring joy to all indigo
land--okay a bit sicky sweet, sorry--anyway below is the currrent list
of dubbers. this may, may not be added to. at this point the following
individuals will actually dub your tapes for you:

-those offering the official three are
dschulman@aol.com                                       dee
doobie@student.umass.edu                deb
aaogilvie@aol.com                               alexandria
pooh40@mc.net                                           pooh
nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu        lisa
psyche9@aol.com                         jess

-in asia:
renmar@biwasv01.biwa.or.jp maren

-in the uk
stripe@oasis.icl.co.uk julian

-the following 3 individuals can do all three of the official three as
well as the optional two. before requesting boots from these
individuals, please review #6 from above.
sanawike1@aol.com                               sarah
kevinh@plix.com                         lori
vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu                     veronica
jlucero@mail.monmouth.com               jen
pjhoopie@aol.com                        pj

have fun and enjoy the music!

marian
if you have any questions, please, let me know and i'll see what i can
do to help!
--
iex
international english exchange
the esl forum
www.vii.com/~iex/
iex@vii.com

i'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing a lot of weirdness with
their ig list digests.  for the last two days, the digests i've been receiving
have had a different heading.  instead of appearing as simply "indigo girls
digest, march 9, 1997"  it says from:  indigo girls mailing list, and
on the next line it lists the date.  that's not the problem, though.  the
problem, is that instead of one line of someone's post showing up as it normally
would, i'm getting several words on one line, the next three or four words
of the sentence on the second line, and then the remainder of the sentence on
the next line down - and these are all stairstepped, which makes the digests
nearly impossible to read.  i got a digest edition like this a couple of weeks
ago, but that was the only one like it i got, so i figured it was a one-time
thing.  but, every digest i've received for the
last two days has been this way.  all of the other e-mails i receive look
normal, so i'm assuming the problem is with the listserver or whatever.
has anyone else experienced this problem lately?  this is really weird...

peace and readable digests (hoping i start receiving them again *soon*)

joan :-d

> 3.) if you had just invented a new drink, what would you name it?? (name has
> to relate to something ig) just to note..this doesnt have to be a
> alcoholic breverage (although if it was an alkie drink, what the heck would
> be in the concoction?)

hmmmm... if i invented a drink.... it would have to be called the
"indigo-go" and it would be made of:
---50% blueberry concentrate
---10% vodka
---20% club soda
---15% crushed ice
---05% secret ingerdent
sweet withe just the right amount of bite, can you tell i don't know
anything about mixing drinks?
or how 'bout an indigo float? root beer, 1 scoop ice cream, 1 scoop
amy, one scoop emily. (i mean no disrespect)

---sara

this grrl is heading back to hoosierland
early tomorrow, heard that ani will be in the egyptian
room from a friend.. he's gonna try to get me a ticket
cos i practically screamed my head off after he told me
anyways
is anybody gonna be there??
i wont be posting to the list anymore after this
but i will check the box
a thousand apologies for nigc.. but after my teeth
are unfettered i have a great ig question to make up
for my foolishness yesterday..

whoo--oo to apples, caramels, popcorn etc (that i will
be *officially* allowed to eat monday at noon!!!)
anjeanette
--
email: boilrmkr@bu.edu

quiet love hangs in the door of my house --audre lorde
a sheet of brick-caught silk rent in the sun. echo, 1958

i'm so glad the big brains are in charge of my city.....the brainiacs on the
27th floor of the indianapolis city-county building have changed the name of
our public bus line.....it used to be called "metro bus" - stodgy but
functional.....the new name of the indianapolis public bus line is
"indy-go"..... i swear - i'll send pictures.....thought ya'll should be the
first to know ....

brian
your boy in the know....

p.s. maybe i can book the girls for an acoustic show on the 38th
street-crosstown route.....

> from: darren matthew glass <darglass@owlnet.rice.edu>
> according to the liner notes of the dire straits greatest hits cd, it's
> "...sings a streetsuss serenade..."
> i'm not too sure what that means either, though.
> darren

i think "streetsuss" is british slang and means about what "streetwise"
means. where's mat, the ultimate uk indigo fan? anyway, it's practically
indistinguishable phonetically from "streets a serenade" and i'll be
sticking to that when i ..er,... sing along embarassingly badly in my car
with all the windows rolled way up.

alison

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on sat, 8 mar 1997, a. taub wrote:

> > from: darren matthew glass <darglass@owlnet.rice.edu>
> > according to the liner notes of the dire straits greatest hits cd, it's
> > "...sings a streetsuss serenade..."
> > i'm not too sure what that means either, though.
> > darren
>
>
> i think "streetsuss" is british slang and means about what "streetwise"
> means. where's mat, the ultimate uk indigo fan? anyway, it's practically

i'm here!

"streetsuss" isn't slang where i come from, but mark knopfler is from
"geordieland" (newcastle on tyne) and streetsuss probably does mean
streetwise up there. i would imagine that's what it means in the song.

mat

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this the correct way..

anyway, i would just like to find out if there are any other ig fans from
asia. i'm from singapore and i'm beginning to think that i'm the only ig
fan here.

i would also appreciate some info abt getting some of their bootleg stuff
and maybe articles..and whatever other form of ig parapernalia ..cos i've
searched all over here and there's absolutely none....things like t-shirt
and other stuff...

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i say nay!!!  never can get to "too many" concerts... but like margaret said,
there are rare instances where the labor of getting to a concert, or the
conditions surrounding the concert, can make you wish you'd just stayed at
home that particular time.  i've seen ig 10 times in the 4 years that i've
been a fan, (sad to admit that i only found out about them 4 years ago!...
seems like i can't remember a time when i didn't know their music), and plan
to step that up a big notch now that i'm out of school and have a more
flexible schedule.  i've enjoyed every show i've been to except for one:
atlanta pride ' 96. now hear me out...  pride in general was great, and i
plan to go again this year. i was in the park on that saturday
afternoon/evening to soak in the festival a little bit, because i knew that
the next day, when ig performed, i wouldn't really be able to leave my spot
much, (i was right up front)... and sat. was wonderful. my friend and i
walked all around, the temperature was livable, and we got to hear some
pretty good music.  then on sunday, we got there early, to secure a good spot
in front of the stage for the day, (not just for ig -- the music was going to
be awesome the whole day!).  well, ig didn't play till later in the
afternoon, and the temperature got very hot. i ended up getting a huge
heat-headache around 2pm, and became miserable.  then the band "lift" played
right before, (or maybe two acts before?), the girls, and i still have a
really bad impression of them, only because they were very loud, and
contributed even more to my headache...   so by the time ig came on, i was so
miserable i just wanted to go home! and then they didn't even play that many
songs.  i don't know, i just walked away disappointed... i don't think any
amount of good performance on their part could've made up for the huge
headache/sickness i was feeling.  and then, to make matters worse, i had to
stop on the way back to my friend's house to make a call on a pay phone, and
ended up locking my keys in my car, adding another hour to my awful day, (i
had no aspirin with me, and i'd spent every last dime i had on me that day at
pridefest).  so there's my sad story. you can actually not enjoy an indigo
girls concert...  but the conditions have to be pretty bad for that to
happen, if you're a die-hard fan!  i've trekked hours, i've sat through
rainstorms, i've... well you get the picture.  all in all, i'd have to say
that (practically) no ig concert is a bad ig concert!  so bring on the ' 97
tour!!!

:) ween

my step sister's financee's daughter goes to american. i will *try* and see
if she can score tixs or if her friends can, i have met her only at family
gatherings and such, and i also know a few people in dc who needs tixs.

another *more reliable* idea if you're in dc is to go to au, make a bunch of
flyers saying you really need to get tixs to this show, maybe you'll send a
couple of tapes their way. offer five bucks more for going through the
effort, i am sure some kind person would buy tixs that way. i *have* done
this for closed shows (both bought tixs for people and having tickets bought
for me..) i never have had a problem...
mike r.

also, in dead man's hill, there's "don't you write it down- remember this in
your head, don't take a picture, remember this in your heart."
:)
julianna banana
charter member of the yknib ssim fan club
nominee for representative of the whippersnapper division---cast your vote,
folks!

in a message dated 97-03-07 23:07:01 est, skwan@midway.uchicago.edu (sue
kwan) writes:

<< 1.) what new instrument should emily learn to play *this* month? (it
seems
like she learns to play something new all the time...)

julianna thinks that em should learn to play the sitar, that funky
sounding middle eastern instrument- it would sound really neat on songs like
this train, and it would sound really funny if she played ctf on it!!!

2.) if emily and amy were comic book superheroes...what superhuman strengths
would they have? weaknesses? what would their purpose as a superhero be?
what color cape???? :p

       emily would be : homegrown tomato woman
       strengths: can pummel enemies with tomatoes, douse them in fresh,
tasty marinara sauce
       weaknesses: would wither and die if ever brought in contact with
pesticides
        cape color: tomato red

       amy would be: soc woman
       strengths: can outtalk and outthink any of her evil enemies: she would
fry their brains with her awesome intellect and insight.
       weaknesses: occasionally has brain lockup- sortof like writers block
       cape color: a charcoal greyish number- good thinking color, dontcha
think?

3.) if you had just invented a new drink, what would you name it?? (name has
to relate to something ig) just to note..this doesnt have to be a
alcoholic breverage (although if it was an alkie drink, what the heck would
be in the concoction?)

(my answer: *the flaming indigo!!!* yes, a take-off from the
flaming-moe, but the flames from this baby wil be indigo-colored :p)

mine would be indigo colored as well- blueberry beer!!! and it would have
little hunks of blueberry actually floating around in it for texture ( kind
of like that drink orbitz, if anyone has ever had that stuff). i would name
it fortunate blueberry brew- a takeoff on the ever popular fortunate ones
line from reunion, but also because the berries are fortunate to have been
turned into so tasty a drink!

i think that's about it folks, gotta go write up my chem lab
julianna banana
charter member of the yknib ssim fan club
nominee for representative of the whippersnapper division---cast your vote,
folks!
>>

good morning everyone:)
i just had to write and tell you about the indigo girls dream i had the
other night:)

my friend and i were at the concert(sitting in grade school desks?)
all excited and talking about how great it was and how excited we were.
we were sitting there wondering who the opening act would be....
the scene is set...the lights go down...the crowd goes wild....the
lights come up and there stands the opening act.......
survivor!!!!
remember them? the search is over?
hee hee he:)
then my husband woke me up to go to work:)
i wanted to stay in the dream:):)
i like survivor:)
selena (*)

in a message dated 97-03-09 09:53:49 est, you write:

<< and i still have a
really bad impression of them, only because they were very loud, and
contributed even more to my headache... so by the time ig came on, i was
so
miserable i just wanted to go home! >>

i hate it when that happens.
it's sad but true...sometimes the ordeal of going to a concert is
just not worth it.
ek...i remember those headaches.... it's really bad when you are
glad to hear closer to fine, just because that means it's almost over
and you can go home and lie down.

love,
miss binky

--- brian, most excellent ychromosomal hoosier wrote:
..the new name of the indianapolis public bus line is
"indy-go"..... i swear - i'll send pictures.....thought ya'll should be =
the
first to know ....
--- end of quoted material ---

yeeeehaw!

whose makin fun of indiana now?

i'm so proud i could crrryyyyyy

xo, susann
off to hartford in 7 hours for ani!!!!

go ahead and delete if you are not interested in the social movements
that inspire ig to action.

some of you may remember the announcement that ig were traveling
to chaipas at the end of february. this article is the first
mention of it through moonlight, which is a vigilant e-mail list
covering the struggles of the zapatistas. the ig content is
quite small, but i hope that you find that the article's content
more than makes up the difference.

those of us fortunate enough to catch ig on the demo tour last
summer will remember cecilia rodriguez and her passionate speech
on behalf of the zapatistas. we hear her again here...

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sun, 9 mar 1997 05:58:40 -0800 (pst)
from: moonlight@igc.apc.org
to: ncdm-ally@igc.org
subject: *there is firmness in their struggle: representative of the
ezln in the us

>zapatistas awaken respect in the first world
>
>hermann bellinghausen, correspondent, san cristobal de las casas, chiapas
>march 3
>
>mexican consulates in various parts of the world are having to go through
>uncomfortable moments.  they have uproars and tumults which previously did
>not disturb a mexican consulate office in miami, naples or dublin, for
>example.  solidarity committees, resistance groups, unions, students,
>artists, undocumented people, unemployed people as well as the very proper
>defenders of human rights and good causes.  an annoying and persistant fauna
>take over, each time they are asked,  the mexican consulates in the first
>world.  where the civilized ones live.
>
>and all in support of the zapatista cause.  during february the demands for
>complying with the san andres accords between the mexican government and the
>ezln inflamed the parliments of denmark, italy and spain, and there was no
>small amount of concern or interest during these days in the us congress,
>the canadian parliment and the lower house of germany.
>
>recently an aguascalientes was established in oregon, along with the ones
>already in chicago (a building that houses independent political groups),
>another in andalusia (a large farm) and the one on the border of france and
>spain.
>
>the solidarity with the zapatistas has changed, stated cecilia rodriguez,
>representative of the ezln in the united states, who currently is visiting
>several communities in the conflict zone.  now "the people are taking
>positions because of  the zapatistas' political ideas, national and local
>groups are finding political inspiration in the zapatistas words".
>
>interviewed in san cristobal at the same time that a marathon, organized by
>the local government and coca-cola, was taking place with indigenous
>peoples, cecilia rodriguez said that "this is a new political activity,
>under the resistance to neoliberalism.  in california the 209 law was just
>passed into law, which eliminates the support programs for minorities, and
>women".
>
>then there is the solidarity over even farther distances.  in pisa, the
>italian city of the leaning tower, a national march of 10,000 people
>demanding liberty for their political prisoners was led by a zapatista
>banner of "enough is enough".  and in the meeting the only international
>demand was directed at the mexican government, that it approve the
>constitutional reform proposal made by cocopa.
>
>meanwhile in rome the ambassador is under seige by telephone each time the
>social committees and centers call for it, and the lines are occupied all
>day long.
>
>we can imagine how the consulate in la marche, a region of france, has lost
>its tranquility when 15 days ago he had to flee to his home to elude the
>great protest in front of his office.  but it is a small town: they went to
>get him in his home and forced him to receive a delegation that demanded
>fulfillment of the san andres agreements.
>
>but while in europe the critical press follows these events (il manifiesto,
>charlie hebdo), in the united states the silence in the media is complete
>and suffocating, according to cecilia rodriguez, who spoke enthusiastically
>about the "ant work" of the zapatista committees in the neighboring country.
>the rockers of rage against the machine, who have received a grammy, and
>their fans have gotten involved, and the widely popular group of new
>feminism indigo girls (who just gave a concert in la realidad). also the
>native forest network, the celebrated and combative bishop gumbleton from
>detroit, and hollywood stars like tim robbins and susan sarandon.
>
>the mexican consulates in almost the entire united states  were very
>occupied (it was said in 30 cities, but it actually was more) almost a month
>ago, receiving the coordinated protests of the committees and sympathizers
>of the ezln and the indigenous mexicans.
>
>"the surprise," -says cecilia rodriguz, "-was to discover the hunger thatthe
>people have for new forms of struggle.  the zapatistas have awakened a great
>respect, because of the firmness of their struggle."

good morning everyone,

i'm trying to get a lyric collection together for the new songs and my
computer erased some of the old posts that had lyrics :/ so if someone could
email me the lyrics to any of the following: shame on you, cut it out, it's
alright, leeds and winthrop i would be forever grateful :>

thanks a lot,
elizabeth

tapes should be in the mail tommorrow..
sorry to send this to the list but i've been havin' trouble with
individual addys..figured you'd all see this message here!!!!!!!
pooh

hello all.
does anyone know if there are anymore tix available for hofstra??  my little
sister is out from school and she really wants to go.
                               thanks
                                              - kim

sorry to waste the bandwidth, but angela--please e-mail me privately. my
hard drive screwed up and i ended up losing all my mail....loop tape
addresses included.

-rich (sbmfc charter member & official mentor
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
member yknib ssim fan club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
infj
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my friends and i have had a tough time
bruising our brains hard up against change
all the old dogs and the magician
-e. saliers
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

hi y'all!

along with courtney, i would love someone at au to get me two tickets,
please! it is for my soon-to-be-sister-in-law's birthday (and one for me,
ive never seen them in concert=-( if anyone could help me, please email
me privately, thanx so much=-)

nick

where am i?

hey everyone!

once again: if anyone comes across two extra tickets to the ann arbor show
please mail me!!!!

thanks~

rob

i'm off topic, so i'll be brief.  lui collins has a new cd called stone
by stone.  i think its wonderful and would recommend it to fans of
singer/songwriters with spirit.  she is also touring now.  anyone
interested in more details should email me privately.

hugh barroll

hi all,

        just wanted to tell you that i have to sign off for a couple of
weeks.  my hard drive ate itself today.  any of you that are involved in
private correspondence with me can still write me at this addy.  it will
just take me a little longer to respond, as i am using a friend's
computer to check my mail.  i'll miss you all while i'm gone!

tuesday's child

hi all,

i've learned so much this past week as a new list member and with
all my net surfing.  it's amazing what the excitement of going to your
first ig concert can do for you.  a week ago, i had no idea that jcs -
a resurrection existed.  last night i found it in best buy in cedar
rapids (wow, i actually found it in cr!).  amy as jesus!  what a
great concept!  musicals/rock operas are another love of mine, so
marrying ig and jcs was a breakthrough for me.  i also found live
at the uptown lounge!!!!   aarrrgghhhh!  why the excitement?  before
seeing this last night, i've never seen a&e perform (no videos, no
concerts, nothing).  i've only had their voices and pictures to go on.
were any current list members in the audience for the uptown
lounge concert?

ok, a new thread: i was thinking about my job at the riverside
theater in milwaukee and wondered if ig would get back there on
this tour. here's a concept i thought of and would like list members
to comment on, if you're so inclined:

if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
time), what would you say/do in that time?

the reason i ask is that as a staff member of the riverside theater, one
of our revolving jobs is to operate the back stage elevator (i've met
dolly
parton, garth brooks, the cranberries, etc. and the entire casts of cats,

a chorus line, evita, and other national shows doing this).  anyway, if ig came,
there is a great chance i could be the one to operate the elevator that
takes
them to their dressing rooms and the green/food room (8 floors up!).  even
if they don't get in to ride up and instead take the stairs, which
happens at
times (we have a freaking slow elevator), my location on stage level is
a few feet off of stage left.  i could watch the show from there and look
them
right in the eyes when they are waiting to go on.  okay, if i had the
chance,
the first thing that i'd say is a big "thank you!", then i might humbly
(!!!) ask them
to sign something for me.  what should i have them sign?  a cd, and then,
which
one?  maybe i'd get the gold self-titled cd just for this purpose.  what
would
you all do????  how many of you have met a&e with backstage
passes already???

when ig were at the riverside in '94, i don't know who was in the
elevator at that
time, but i am curious to find out and ask them what it was like.  i hope
that ig
comes this year.  if not, oh well.  but if they did, i'd still be torn
whether to watch
the show from the audience, the way it was meant to be seen, or from the
back stage.  hmmmm....

lisa

hi,

just a quick one to note that i was "furhead3" on a borrowed account which
was terminated last week. i have been resurrected under "indisong"...

also:

does anyone have directions to hofstra coming from ct on i-95?
also, i may have an extra ticket if someone needs it.....

its good to be back

at 01:56 pm 3/9/97 pst, lisa m. schreihart wrote:

>if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
>in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
>time), what would you say/do in that time?

that's easy. i'd tell them that they both have beautiful gifts, and i'd
thank them for sharing them with us and bringing a "ray" of sunshine into
our lives.

plain and simple. no autographs. i'd just smile and say "thanks."

have a good one everyone!
joni :o)

nope...i heard the same thing. i've read a few times that she is openly
bi-sexual.
ben

in a message dated 97-03-07 13:32:03 est, you write:

<< damn labels! maybe they should start categorizing music in the record
stores by sexual orientation, hmmm?...(now *that* would be interesting) >>

you know they used to do this.....it was called women's music and it was
mainly olivia stuff. i remember the first time i found the catergory in a
record store near ucla.

ahhh our sordid history.

michelle

okay, i apologize for a repeat request...i haven't been paying attention
to any info about shows other than the eugene one that i'm going to, but
my friend will be in ny on march 16 and wondered if she could still get
tickets to that show (is it the hofstra one?), and if so what's the phone
#, etc. if anyone knows about it, please e-mail me privately so i can fwd
her the info. thanks!!

:) marianne

   ___
/     \        "the saddest sight my eyes can see, that big ball of
|   ' ' |        orange sinking slyly down the trees...." -e. saliers
|    u  |  ~o~
\ ___ /  -=|=-         **shaming of the sun, april 29, 1997**
           /_\
           ((

does anyone know if ig will be coming anywhere near north carolina soon?
i've been a fan for 5 years and have yet to see them live...

back to electron pushing,
mary

hello all,

thank you for all the responses i have had for my lyrics request. i now have
what i need. have a great day :>

elizabeth

i'm sorry, but an indigo float would have to be rootbeer with a scoop of
ben and jerry's indigo swirls...
on another note i found that blueberries and tortillas go good
together...
-sal

"i'm in love with your ghost"-e. saliers "protector of the sacred purple bunny, defender of her highness-binky, wannabe mascot for the overaged children, charter member yknib ssim fan club, maker of scrumptious blueberry cobbler, bearer of the title "nana bubbles", friend of all, and lover of all things indigo....."

hi fellow-listees! thought that this may be of interest to y'all!

i will not be complacent!
get involved!
mari
---------------------
forwarded message:
from:   moonlight@igc.apc.org
sender: owner-chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
reply-to:       chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
to:     ncdm-ally@igc.org, ncdm-gc@igc.org, chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net,
reg.mexico@conf.igc.apc.org
date: 97-03-09 03:30:47 est

our culture should be free and democratic: comandante tacho

hermann bellinghausen, reporter, la realidad, chiapas, march 1

"it is very important that we conserve our culture", said comandante tacho
during the program in the aguascalientes presented by the famous folk-rock
group the indigo girls and other united states artists.
"we the companeros and companeras of the ezln say that our culture should be
free and democratic."

while the words of the zapatista comandante took the form of a greeting,
those of the ejidal director of the community, during his time at the
microphone, were a warning: "what we are saying is the government is
becoming more and more bastardly".

comandante tacho mentioned that the zapatista communities "have their
stature as indigenous born in these southern lands," and that they have seen
that "cultures can be brotherly".

after the singing of the four indigo girls (ballads in which there is more
than one response to the questions and hymns of planetary brotherhood), the
director of the community spoke to the group of united states visitors, who
just hours before had witnessed the passage of a military patrol.

"we thank you for having come, in remembering us, in seeing for yourselves
that what we say isn't a lie, that the government is making things harder
and harder".

in the name of several hundred tojobal participants, comandante tacho said:
"for us distance doesn't matter, what matters is that the cultures of our
brothers and sisters from other countries come here. we are very happy that
they are here to play a little music for us the zapatista bases of support."

a chicano theater group also participated in the activity with a psychodrama
about border identity. a representative of the lakota nation also
participated, and said in english that before coming, her people had danced
the dance of fire as a message to the zapatistas in struggle. the translator
struggled to translate the meaning of the word "buffalo", since the lakota
woman belongs to the "buffalo people". in the lacandon jungle buffaloes
aren't known. "it is a sacred animal that they have over there," explained
the translator. (that they had, said the other, thinking of the poor beasts
now extinct).

all in all, they liked the young group of gringas, but not because "i
understood them", but because "they sound a lot like little birds".

in a message dated 97-03-09 21:54:08 est, dreamowolf@aol.com (mari green)
writes:

<< after the singing of the four indigo girls >>

uh...did i miss something here? or, am i just too drunk and now seeing
double?

:)
jan

ok. i am ditching work tomorrow (shhh...it's hush hush) and driving alllll
the way (ok, it's only an hour or so) to norton, ma to buy me some ig
tickets for the april 16th show. is anyone else doing this? i hope i don't
arrive and find out that only college kids can buy them. that would really
make my day complete. i also hope that i can buy more than one. i'm going
to the concert with a friend, and i don't think she can make it out to
norton tomorrow.

sooooooooo....to finish up my post, i'm just wondering if anyone else is
doing this and/or wants me to buy them a ticket. i'm a 19-year old
whippersnapper with limited access to $$, but i can swing it if ya need me
to....

here's to praying i get the tix! may the planets be aligned tomorrow and
the universe be in my favor... -liz-

hey everyone,

this is to everyone i sent 8/14/97 roseland pictures to.........if you
still can't view them, let me know. i think i figured out what might
have wrong. so let me know....

jonny

hey kind friends,
i just had a most indigo day.  this afternoon i played hockey with someone who
met a&e,  she had coffee with them.  i couldn't believe it!  the problem was i
only got to talk about them with her for about 30 seconds because we were on
the bus and her stop came up and she wouldn't
let me follow her home :-)  she met them because they came to her uni and
she was on the tech crew and afterwars they all went out for coffee at
this cool little cafe.  i've been there before, sat in the same booth,
it just boggles the mind (you know you're an obsessed fan when...)  and this
womyn wasn't even a fan..it's just not fair.
in response to the whole elevator thing...what if you could somehow fix it so
the elevator broke down and you were in there together for more than a minute
or two?...hmmm, i guess that would be kind of deceitful though.  i'm having
trouble trying to decide if i would politely thank them for the positive
influence their music has had on my life or if i would fall to their feet
wayne's-world-style, screaming "i'm not worthy, i'm not worthy".  tough call.
i would kill for the opportunity to find out though.
alright, i have a question, who do you have to know to get backstage passes to
a show?  i'd really like some (who wouldn't)  where do i find these
connections?
one more question, does anyone have any info about any canadian dates?
i'm beginning to feel extremely jealous of all those who live within 1000
miles of a show.  i'm an indigo virgin of sorts, i've never seen them perform
and i think something has to be done to change sad fact.
alright that's enough of my ramblings, g'night to all of you out in indiland.
patricia

------------------------------------------------------------
it's only life after all...

on march 8, kim said,

>this one is probably easy, but the first verse of r& j always gets me.. " a
>lovestruck romeo sings the streets a serenade" is that right?? is that
what
>she says? and who is the origional artist of that song? was it bob dylan??

i'm not one to know exact lyrics, but i do know that dire straits either
wrote the song or covered it. their version is on the "on the night" album
and in my opinion, ig does a much better job covering it. sorry to all you
dire straits fans.

--julie

>plain and simple. no autographs. i'd just smile and say "thanks."

i've always wondered what i would do if that ever happened. i thought
about it with tori amos too. (sorry to bring her name up again....i hope
it doesn't start another fight or anything)  i've always wanted to say
something different. something that they would remember always.  i had a
dream once where i kissed emily. (no disrespect meant here)  and that was
the thing that made her remember me. of course, that's complete nonsense.
= )

i think i would take a few deep breaths (i'd be freaking out inside, of
course) and say "hi. i'm liz. i really love the way your music speaks to
me. i'm thankful each day that i can appreciate this gift you guys have
given the world. thanks a lot for the music. say, isn't this your floor?
hey have a great day guys. oh no, amy i don't think i should take your
phone number....no really...that wouldn't be right. well, ok. sure, i'll
call you tomorrow."

no wait....that's not what i would say...= )

-liz-(who apologizes for the long post and being a goober at the end)

hi! i have an extra ticket to the davenport show so if anyone is
interested please just drop me a line at lacholak@artsci.wustl.edu

also, i apologize if directions to the venue have already been discussed,
but spring break has caused me to delete a lot so if anyone has directions
please e-mail me at the address given in the above paragraph. (oh! i'll
be coming from st. louie)

thanks,
lisa alice

i think i'd say, "what floor?" and then when they were walking out of
the elevator i would say "i like your music, by the way"
i mean for crying out loud, that would make them uncomfortable being
stuck in an elevator with a fan not knowing what they might do or
say....that's furkin' scary...so tell them after they're out of the
elevator but before the door shuts...they'll respect you for letting
them ride the elevator in peace...
but this is a hypothetical question anyway and a hypothetical answer,
because i take the stairs at work....faster than waiting for a damn
elevator, that's for sure....
-sal :)

> if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
> in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
> time), what would you say/do in that time?

this actually happened to a guy i used to work with. several years ago the
indigo girls were at a cleveland radio station and so was this guy and he
gets into the same elevator with them--what did he do?

"uhhhhhhh.....can i have your autograph??"

he doesn't love them as much as i do!

i'd say, "uhhhhhh......can i have two front row tickets and backstage
passes? oh and maybe a guitar lesson or two?"

i'm not sure if this would work though.

in a message dated 97-03-09 16:13:45 est, lisa writes:

<< if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
time), what would you say/do in that time?
>>

i'd smile and make eye contact and nod slightly....like i'd do to anyone
who got on an elevator (or people i pass on the street for that matter..).
then i would stare with great interest at the floor numbers as they lit up..
like i always do.
hopefully they would leave me alone.
;)
binky
<<and the entire casts of cats,>> oh my ! i bet that was a tight squeeze.
(heh, heh)

this thread reminds me of a loretta laroche show i just watched on pbs. she
poses the question of what would happen if you and a friend got onto a
crowded elevator, pretended not to know each other at first, and then shouted
to each other, "let's hug!", and did so. what does this have to do with what
i would do were i stuck in an elevator with amy and emily, you may ask? well...
i leave the answer to that question as an exercise to the reader. :-)
kirsten

--
+kirsten chevalier-kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu-often in error, never in doubt-+
| "i think you're the least fucked up person i've ever met / and that may be |
| as close to the real thing as i'll ever get."--ani difranco |
+-http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/-----------------------;no comment-+

hey y'all

just got this and really liked it, so i thought i would share it with
y'all have a great week=-)

nick

where am i?

---------- forwarded message ----------
>>have a good week. i liked the message this
>>sends: who you are has nothing to do with your physicality but with your
>>spirit and mentality.

>> >life isn't about keeping score.
>> >it's not about how many friends you have
>> >or how accepted you are.
>> >not about if you have plans this weekend or if you're alone.
>> >it isn't about who you're dating, who you used to date, how many people
>> >you've dated, or if you haven't been with anyone at all.
>> >it isn't about who you have kissed,
>> >it's not about sex.
>> >it isn't about who your family is or how much money they have
>> >or what kind of car you drive.
>> >or where you are sent to school.
>> >it's not about how beautiful or ugly you are.
>> >or what clothes you wear, what shoes you have on, or what kind of music you
>> >listen to.
>> >it's not about if your hair is blonde, red, black, or brown
>> >or if your skin is too light or too dark.
>> >not about what grades you get, how smart you are, how smart everybody else
>> >thinks you are, or how smart standardized tests say you are.
>> >it's not about what clubs you're in or how good you are at "your" sport.
>> >it's not about representing your whole being on a piece of paper and seeing
>> >who will "accept the written you."
>> >life just isn't.
>> >
>> >but, life is about who you love and who you hurt.
>> >it's about who you make happy or unhappy purposefully.
>> >it's about keeping or betraying trust.
>> >it's about friendship, used as a sanctity or a weapon.
>> >it's about what you say and mean, maybe hurtful, maybe heartening.
>> >bout starting rumors and contributing to petty gossip.
>> >it's about what judgments you pass and why. and who your judgments are
>> >spread to.
>> >it's about who you've ignored with full control and intention.
>> >it's about jealousy, fear, ignorance, and revenge.
>> >it's about carrying inner hate and love, letting it grow, and spreading it.
>> >but most of all, it's about using your life to touch or poison other
>> >people's hearts in such a way that could have never occurred alone.
>> >only you choose the way those hearts are affected, and those choices are
>> >what life's all about.
>> >
>> >
>>
>

"from the moment i could speak, i was ordered to listen."
-stephen demitri georgiou aka cat stevens aka yusaf islam

> >  jojo was a man who thought he was a woman, but he was another man
> >  jojo was a man who thought he was a loner, but he knew it couldn't last.
> >  get back- the beatles

this is a little out-of-date, but hey--i've been on vacation :)

i think this line was confused with "sweet loretta martin thought she was a
woman, but she was another man," which actually _is_ a line from the
song. so if you thought this was right, don't feel too bad :)

jenn. brown

i was driving with my 5-yr-old daughter, taking her out for ice cream, and i
put in a tape. lc came on, and i said, "i love this song..." and turned it
up. catherine asked, "what's it about?" and i thought--how do you explain
this song to a little child? the loss of a love? starting over?
self-discovery? so i said, "uh....people." and i started to sing along,
"...the kids are walking home from school..." catherine said, "school!!"
"....that for whatever kind of puzzle you got..." catherine said, "puzzle!!"
(she loves jig-saws.) and then later she asked, "what does 'tated' mean?" i
explained, "complicated--that means...something that's hard." then a few
moments later, "but what does 'tated' mean?"

         susan malmrose                  malmrose@olympus.net
           sequim, wa           http://www.olympus.net/personal/malmrose
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
           "i want to live in the world, not inside my head"
                    ~~jackson browne
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

okay, i was out of town this weekend and came home to over 200 posts from my
various lists.  uuuggh!  so, if this has already been answered, just hit me
over the lines.  are the girls coming to colorado?  specifically boulder,
but i'd go anywhere.  i missed their show at red rocks but i groove on the
line before ghost from 1200c about the day going so slow (in colorado)  i
just have to laugh at that!!

thanks for any info!!

mmg
                                                    mary m geer
                                                   (303)402-1420
                                                   maryg@diac.com
                                               geer@ucsu.colorado.edu

hi does anybody have directions from manchester nh to norton mass????
tank ya
jester kyle of the whippersnapper people
see ya all in line tomorrow=)

well, i passed amy on the streets of new orleans last year.  and my husband
often reminds me of the gooberish "hi" and wave of the hand, that i gave to
amy.  when we first saw her in the distance, i thought i'd die.  then as we
got closer, i saw her point to my shirt (ig shirt - of course).  i was a
wreck.  i was shaking.  my husband offered to stop her and ask for her
autograph, but i told him not to because she's on a vacation, of sorts,
too.  so, a quick "hi" was said.

now, if on an elevator...i'd pass out. pure and simple. but if i didn't,
i'd probably say "hi" and that i was a fan, then look at my feet or the
floor numbers. i don't like imposing on people and making them feel
uncomfortable.

but if they knew what i really wanted to do ...

peace,
- jen hall

============================
"and when you're learning to face
the path at your pace very choice
is worth your while." - emily saliers

hello! =)
      no, i do not know when they're going to release it.  i wish i did... i
work in a record store, though, so if it's going to be a significant delay
for you overseas folk, i would be glad to buy some copies on release day and
send them out to you, provided you pay postage and such... i get a discount,
too, so that's a plus. =)  if this interests you, just write me back sometime
between now and then. =)  peace, love, and devil moons, sarah

as far as ig ared concerned no !!

simply because ( and this might only be true in the uk ) the venues are
small enoght to retain intamicy !! the set list chnages all the time
because the girls are always open to requests and always tell the way the
day went if asked !!

jules

        when you learn to love yourself
        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

remember everything i've told you...

wasn't someone looking for an ig song with those exact lyrics? well i'm
finally organizing my boot list by typing in set lists and i came across a
song labelled "remember everything i've told you" from the santa fe 8/25/96
boot. does it have a different title now? i haven't been keeping up on all
of the new songs because i want to be somewhat surprised when shaming of
the sun is released. :) anyway, that's the very first line and amy
introduces it as a new emily song, but she doesn't mention the song title.
maybe the person who was trying to think of the song has this boot? it's
too late for me to analyze the lyrics and figure out if it's on shaming of
the sun under a different title. are we going to shorten that to sun or
sots or sts? we can also refer to it as "the record that is missing chiapas
bound" and nod knowingly.

kristina

----------------------------------------------------------------------
she wore lemon andrade@az.com
to colour in the cold grey night http://www.az.com/~andrade

hi folks,

i'm looking for a copy of mapped, the compilation tape that sundara put
together last year. if anyone in the uk has a copy and is prepared to copy
it for me if i send a blank tape then plaese e-mail me.

take care
sharon

sharon. a. jennings
cancer research campaign laboratories
univesity of nottingham
university park
nottingham
ng7 2rd (0115) 9513408
england (0115) 9513414 (fax)

i think the original version was on an album before "on the night" -
i think it's on an album from their early years - sometime around
the 1970s.

john.

"oh, these little eartquakes,
here they come again....."

tori amos, little earthquakes

i don't think i'd be able to say anything... the mouth would be
operating, but no words would be coming out......

john.

"oh, these little eartquakes,
here they come again....."

tori amos, little earthquakes

thanks to everyone who replied to me about the pnw album i was asking
about.  i looks wonderful and i'm going to check out some used cd
stores for it.  those who make the kind offers to keep an eye out for
an extra copy -- thank you.  i may take you up on that.

those who wanted me to forward the packer updates, you should have
just received a copy in you mailbox. if you wanted one and didn't,
let me know and i'll update things. i had a ton of mail this weekend
and it might have gotten lost.

thanks,

chris

in a message dated 97-03-09 16:13:45 est, lisa writes:

<< if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
time), what would you say/do in that time?
>>

i'd ask them what they do when one of their picks falls into
her guitar. whats their favorite way of getting it out?

really. that's what i would ask.

ann

--
what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind
at all is being very wasteful.
-dan quayle

> so i didn't read anything. amy isn't on record saying she'll never
> perform r&j again. its more of a feeling and i didn't mean to imply
> otherwise.
>

in tampa few years back, someone in the crowd screamed for it, and once the
applause ended, she said that mark knofler told her not to sing in anymore.
probably a joke, but i thought i'd pass it on...
stephen

hi kim,

this is trant. i just wanted to offer my sympathies regarding the flamage.
you just happened to post on a really sensitive subject. there are over
800 people on the list now, so there is no way you can say, "good morning",
without it upsetting someone. let alone adress anything as personal as rape
or sexual oreintation.

as far as the personal lives argument, amy and emily are publicly gay and
work actively for gay rights, so any thred regarding this is a valid thred
for the list.  that is why, to some extent, posting about ellen coming out
on her show is a valid thread.  it relates to a&e's fight for gay rights.
if tori amos has talked publicly about being raped, then that to is valid
in as much as it relates to women's issues. and if she said, "that's why
i started dating women", then who's to argue. it's tori's life.  this also
makes it related, although remotely to gay issues.

so, even though you brought up a sensitive subject, you didn't do anything
wrong. and, this list would not be worth much if the only thing ever posted
to it were the positions that are politicaly correct within the list
community.

seeya,

trant

on mon, 10 mar 1997, ann m labeck wrote:

> what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind
> at all is being very wasteful.
> -dan quayle

there is an entire page of these dan quayle quotes at:

http://calres1102a.calumet.yorku.ca/funny/quayle.htm

very funny!

mat

hi.  i just learned that you can now buy tickets for the mhc show this
wednesday through the northampton box office.  i don't have their number,
but you can get it if you call 413-555-1212.  obviously they will take
credit cards.

evidently, only 1000 of 1600 tickets have sold. that's $10,000 worth of
tickets unsold. wow... (then again, i've seen no publicity to date)

margaret

>
> << if you were the only person in a 5' x 6' elevator, and a&e got
> in to go only one or two floors with you (only a smidgen of
> time), what would you say/do in that time?

that's easy. i'd do what i do with everyone i meet on the elevator. i'd
reach into my pocket, look at them and say, "would you like some gummy
bears? they've been in my pocket all day and they're all warm and fuzzy."
this has never failed for me. people always leave, very quickly.
thing is, i have the feeling amy is too polite, she'd probably take one.
peace you all - kim (n.v.)

hey everyone,

wanted to let you know that wendy bucklew is getting ready to hit the road
with a series of california and southwest shows. here's her current
schedule, which is constantly updated on her website, listed below.

tour schedule:

april 5, 1997:  herland bookstore, santa cruz, ca, 7:30pm, $4, (408) 429-6636
april 8, 1997:  rusty's surf ranch, santa monica, ca, 8:30pm, $5, (310) 393-7386
april 24, 1997:  drama club, santa fe, nm, (505) 988-4373
april 25, 1997:  new mexico state university, alamogordo, nm
april 27, 1997:  caffe tazza, taos, nm
may 11, 1997:  kuumbwa jazz center, santa cruz, ca, (with caroline aiken)

herland is a cool and cozy bookstore in santa cruz.  since this is wendy's
first northern california show in quite a while, this show is likely to sell
out very quickly.  (please note:  this land may be herland, but guys are
more than welcome.)  make sure to call them first if you're planning to
road-trip.  rusty's is a fun room on the santa monica pier -- a great place
to hang out.  our social director suggests dinner on the pier, a ride on the
carousel, wendy's show, and an ice cream cone for a full evening, not
necessarily in that order.

a lot of people have been asking about wendy's new album, "asleep in the
swing."  here's the scoop:  we have very very limited quantities of this cd,
and for the time being, it will only be available at wendy's shows.  soon,
we hope, this album will be in wide release and available through regular
distribution channels.  as soon as we know about that, you'll know.

as always, thanks for your support. hope to see you out there somewhere...

lorene machado

machado entertainment, management and promotion
p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039, e-mail:  lorene@flylive.com
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031, alpha pager:  (800) 800-9724
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/
wendy bucklew website:  http://www.hidwater.com/wendy/

if i were riding in an elevator with a+e????
um... well, hopefully my hands would not start having a discussion ( ala the
ridiculous cartoon voice i use in just such a ventriloquest sort of
situation... don't you all? ) between themselves, as to what i should do...
right hand ( hansly ): "kim! just maintain your cool. act normal!"
left hand ( froo ): "don't be silly. you couldn't act normal if you tried.
gush all over them about their music. ask them to autograph your shirt. do
it do it do it!!!"
right hand ( hansly ): "what??? do you want them to think she's a fruit cake???"
left hand (froo ):"she's making her hands talk to each other. how do we get
around that???"
kim: "hey... amy and emily... why are you getting out here on 3rd floor... i
thought you were on 47.... whattaya mean where're the stairs???????!!!"
peace... kim ( who really should get herself some hand puppets... )
****fffwwwwwhhhhhhhh...fwwhhoooooooooo...
fffwwwwwhhhhhh.....fwwwhhhooooooo...."
darth vader****************************

could i really have missed the announcement of a ft.worth show???
would someone be kind enough to e-mail me with the date the tickets go on
sale, or did i miss that too? say it ain't so.......
thanks, virginia

i love this!!!  i play guitar, and it's not only a valid question, but it's
fun!  i bet a&e would laugh at first, then relax at the idea of the
question!!  i love this.

i'll have to try this next time i meet amy in a back alley... that's if i
can talk.

great idea ann!! love it!
- jen hall

> i'd ask them what they do when one of their picks falls into
> her guitar. whats their favorite way of getting it out?
>
> really. that's what i would ask.
>
> ann

thanks for everyone who responded.

well i didn't expect to get quite as much mileage out of my post as i have
seen so far. i realized after several days of receiving responses that
'remember everything i told you' or variations thereof, appear in alot of
different songs (but that's another story!)

from what i've been told, the song i was looking for will appear on 'shaming
the sun' as 'everything in it's own time'.  and actually, i've never actually
heard the song, only read the lyrics.  if someone has a boot with this
song on it, could you email me privately?  thanks.  the lyrics appear following
this post.

and hey kim (n.v.), i'd take fuzzy gummy bears from you anytime :) of course,
a red one would be nice...

denise

remember everything i told you
==============================
         remember everything i told you
         keep it in your heart like a stone
         and when the winds that blow things 'round and back again
         what was once your pain will be your home

         all around the table the white-haired men have gathered
         spilling their sons' blood like table wine
         remember everything i told you
         everything in its own time

         the breeze that whispers you with urgency
         hold fast to that language-less connection
         the threat of lonely  was alone an unseen scene
         dangling from inside the fifth direction

         boys around the table, they're mapping out their strategies
         kings of mountains, one day dust
         a lesson learned, a loving god and things in their own time
         nothing more do i trust

         we owe nothing,  nothing is ours.
         not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars.
         but this poverty is our greatest gift.
         the weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift.

         remember everything i told you
         keep it in your heart like a stone
         and when the winds that blow things 'round and back again
         what was once your pain will be your home

everything in its own time
everything in its own time

i suppose i should check ticketmaster (or ticketbastard...whatever the thing
is). this'll be my first live ig experience (i hope!). anyway, just tell me
how i can get tickets for this thing!!!

mary

at 1:55 pm 3/10/97, jen hall wrote:
>i love this!!!  i play guitar, and it's not only a valid question, but it's
>fun!  i bet a&e would laugh at first, then relax at the idea of the
>question!!  i love this.

the same question was asked of melissa etheridge in an interview once and
the exact same thing happened...she laughed out loud, and then
demonstrated...

"...i just turn it upside down and shake it! works everytime! hehehehe....."

too cute for words.... :o)

is it the weekend yet? this is gonna be the longest week...sigh.... ;o)

joni :o)

okay, sooo, i'm in an elevator with a&e. what would i do.

i'd say thanks for inspiring me in my fight against the patriarchy. then
i'd tell amy thank you for making me feel like i'm not the only freak who
counts the dead bugs on my windshield.

then, i'd ask them if they would like my autograph.

love,
sundara, who thinks both the kims in b.c. are tooooo funnneeeee

the ocean said
what are trying to find
i don't care, i'm not kind
-dar williams

i know ann arbor is sold out what abotu grand rapids ticket master didnt
even have this venue anyone know how i can get tickets there or for ann
arbor i only need one

hey out there in ig land....

can anyone tell me if they have heard anything about the penn state concert,
and if so, what???? i don't think the ig are coming any closer to me than
state college, so i need to get the particulars on this concert....

also, if anyone has a complete tour date list and could email it to me
privately, i would really appreciate it!!

thanks!

peace, love, and ig-

karrie

on mon, 10 mar 1997, s r murphy wrote:

> okay, sooo, i'm in an elevator with a&e. what would i do.
(sniparoo!)
> then, i'd ask them if they would like my autograph.
>

sundara gets my vote as the (one?) person on this list with a healthy take
on fanhood!

==========================================================================
drew vogel: coordinator of undergraduate programs at the university of
cincinnati college of pharmacy, actor, director, ibm fanatic, technical
writer, dog (jrt) lover, single guy, & much, much more! try my home page
at: "http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap" "the only way out is through."

hi i just got my tickets for the wheaton show woohooo...i found out that the
ig opening act was hand picked by the girls=)...and that the opening band
will be with them throughout the tour....i don't know who they are yet ????
the show is april 16th i think...so if anybody goes to the holyoke show
please tell me who is opening=)
thanks a bunch..see ya all at the show
kyle=)

hey all
i am popping out of lurkdom to ask if anyone has found someone at american
who would buy tickets, or if anyone has any information about whether ig
will be playing at duke.....
thanks

peace
-kay

hi...i'm new to the list and i don't know if i'm doing stuff the right way
or not....my name is kylie. i was just wondering if anyone on the list lives
in the houston area and would love to help me out and give me a ride to the
fort worth show. i will chip in as much gas money as needed, etc....you have
to be trustworthy enough for my mom to deal with the fact that you are a
perfect stranger. thanks bunches in advance!!!!

~ ~ ~ kylie

i have spent all day . . . well, mostly math class . . . contemplating this
very important question.  if i were ever in an elevator with them i would
just take the plunge and completely gush, except in a calm, relaxed (yeah
right) way.  sort of like a "your music has insipired me!  and i've been
fighting for what i believe in!" type thing.  then i'd grab amy and even
though it's sort of illeagle she'd immediately fall maddly in love with me
and run off to europe together and there would be this house boat in the
south of france that we'd live on. . . well, maybe it wouldn't go quite like
that . . . i'd feel guilty for excluding emily, so i guess i'd hook her up
with some of those gummy bears . . . 8-)

i was thinking about the woman who saw amy on the street in new orleans . . .
i would have stopped her and talked. or at least just stopped her and told
her i loved her music and what she was doing and it would mean ever so much
to me if she'd give me a kiss on the cheek . . . even a hug would do it,
really . . . i wouldn't mind making a fool of myself if it ment i'd stand out
and they'd remember me at least ten mintues. =) i wonder: what would be
the most embarrassing situation for you to meet one of or both of them in?
for me it would involve a blonde wig and a poodle . . . that's as detailed
as i'll get, though. =)

-elizabeth, who apoligizes for rambling

* * * * * * * * * *
"if i envy you i must first learn to feel through the ruins"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

* * * * * * * * * *

hey, y'all.

        hmm... if i bumped into amy and emily in an elevator...now that's a
tough one.  there are two scenerios which could possibly occur: #1.i'd
stand and bask in the moment for a second or two and then pick my chin from
off of the ground.  after the initial shock wore off, i'd compose myself
and tell them how i have always associated their music with the happiest
moments of my life (the ig have aways meant "summer" to me, as i constantly
listened to them when i was at my beloved camp.  i had this secret dream of
them coming to play for the entire camp instead of the dreadful, nightly
rendition of "taps" we were forced to endure for so many years:-)).  then
i'd say, "i'm sorry for being so trite and obnoxious, but may i have your
autographs?" and apologize profusely for being a "typical fan".  when the
door opened to their floor, i'd smile and say soemething to the effect of,
"see 'ya around."  short, sweet, and to the point.  but life normally
doesn't work out that way, so here's #2:  i'd stand and bask in the moment
for a second or two and then pick up my chin from the ground.  being the
quiet, shy girl i am, i'd stand there speechless and let them get off
without a word.  then i'd kick myself for not saying anything.  if this
were to actually happen, i'm 90% sure that it would be #2.
        well, i'm sorry to delve into a relatively nig related realm, but
i'm writing a research paper on women in the music industry and am in dire
need of information.  i'm focusing upon madonna, melissa etheridge, and dar
willliams (i thought that these three women encompassed a broad range of
musical genres) and have little to go by in relation to dar.  if anyone can
direct me to some dar sources, i'd love you forever *wink*.  i'm also
interested in any articles, etc. which focus specifically upon what it is
like to be a female artist in the male-dominated music industry (ideally in
relation to madonna, me, and dar, but others are welcome). also, i may
eventually include other artists, such as the ig.  if there's anyone out
there who can help me out,  i'd greatly appreciate it.
        well, ttfn.  hope all is well in indigoland.

take care and be happy,

sarah :-)

******************************************************************************
"i am a lonely painter           "there are no happy endings
i live in a box of paints."        because nothing ends."
         -joni mitchell                -smendrick, the last unicorn

"you can talk a great philosophy,   "and where does magic come from?
but if you can't be kind to people   i think that magic's in the learning."
everyday then it doesn't mean                -dar williams
that much to me."
        -ani difranco
******************************************************************************

alright, emily people, we must take charge! how many amy days have we seen
come and go?

we will not be complacent!!!!

come, join me, on thursday, march 13th for national emily day! listen to
emily songs, obsess over emily things, talk about emily, take classical
guitar lessons, and/or make an ass of yourself by (loudly) singing emily
songs in public places! quote her as often as possible in papers, in
speaking . . .

this is your chance, people, to show your appreciation. go for it!!

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * *
"my life will come, my life will go"

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

* * * * * * * * * * *

i'd slowly inch my way to the emergency button and slam it! then i could
talk to them for hours on end!
ben

hello all ...

just wanted to let everyone know that i finally went thru some of my boots
from last year and put down some set lists, etc ...

i found ani difranco, lisa loeb & maura o'connell - all from newport ff 1996
....

if anyone's interested in copies, please e-mail me

chris # ??????

well now that's respectful of their space...not!!!!

     kira "who freaks out about people joking about stalking and being
     obseesed fans and who is also wearing flame retardent underwear just
     in case"

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subject: re: a new thread
author: verdi@imap2.asu.edu at internet
date: 3/10/97 2:50 pm

i'd slowly inch my way to the emergency button and slam it! then i could
talk to them for hours on end!
ben

well, believe it or not, my dad(*) actually did meet a&e in an elevator!
it was back in 89 or so, and he had just been to their minneapolis
concert the night before.  that day, he was in milwaukee (maybe madison)
for business.  he got into the elevator to go down that morning, and it
stopped after he had gone a couple of floors.  a&e walked in (with no one
else accompanying them).  the three of them rode down about 15 floors
together.  my dad felt like a dork because he considers himself to be the
oldest living ig fan (he's wrong, of course) and he thought they would
laugh at him if he gushed at them.  so, he said nothing.  he rode all the
way down in silence.  he said amy was looking at him in the elevator.

they all got out in the lobby, a&e met up with some other people, and
their group stood there talking for a while.  my dad checked out.  they
met up again at the revolving door that led out of the hotel.  amy looked
at my dad again (when he told me, at this point i had to respond "you
wish!" but he swears this is true).  he said "i saw you all last night in
minneapolis.  you were great!"  amy smiles and says thanks.  so does
emily.  he holds the door for them.

(*) my dad is cool.  in high school, my friends would come over and trade
music with him.  it was horrible.  anyhow, he introduced me to ig about 7
years ago.  this summer, we went to our first ig concert together
(gush)--roseland.  anyhow, he turns to me, and says "amy's got a nice
smile, doesn't she?"  without looking at him, i respond "she's totally
hot!"  and that's how i came out to my dad (i think).  i didn't remember
the conversation until several hours later and neither of us has ever
mentioned it.

so, the point of this is that it's funny that we're having this
discussion because it actually happened to my dad!!

margaret

just wanted to thank susan b. marine publicly for her tori amos response. i
read the first post (re: she was raped, turned to women) and it made me
recoil, but i decided to read through the rest of the digest before i ranted
and raved. lo and behold, a well worded response from susan that had me
nodding emphatically.

now a novice member of the sbm fan club -
krista

okay, i have a question for everyone.  is anyone coming back to boston after
the mt. holyoke show who could give me and my friend a ride?  we would pay
for gas money.  we are getting there by bus, but we have absolutely no way
to get back.  thank you so much.
-jamie

does anyone have info on when the tickets will be disbursed at a.u.??

thanks
amanda

hi pigs in a blanket, my favorite middle school snack

i have been thinking about this elevator question. mostly i have been thinking
about some of the other shtuff i have done in elevators that would make me
ashamed to even breathe emily and amy's air ;)

but i think i'd say " you gals are the greatest, but there is one thing i have
to know....who said moo?"

don't even think about it!!!

and then i would ask them their favorite cheese.

*and* i would offer them grape chiclets which are always present in my
femmegrrl purse (hi amy p ;))

love love love
susanna

sundara wrote:
>then, i'd ask them if they would like my autograph.

and joni wrote:
>that's easy. i'd tell them that they both have beautiful gifts, and i'd
>thank them for sharing them with us and bringing a "ray" of sunshine into
>our lives.
>
>plain and simple. no autographs. i'd just smile and say "thanks."

my response to the elevator question seems to encompass both of these. i
wrote in an essay about mary chapin carpenter once, "sometimes a person
touches your life from afar and it's enough just to be touched, but then
there's this rare occasion when you need to reach out yourself. when she's
shared so much of her life that the only way to say "thank you" is to
introduce her to yours." this line now applies just as much to the
indigo girls for me, so......

first, i'd say "thanks," then i'd give them my web page url. that's the
best way i can think of to offer and share a part of my life without being
intrusive. and if we ever did meet at a later date, it could be as
fellow artists rather than artist-to-fan.

....audrey

p.s. amy and emily, if you happen to read this....the url is
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein/magic/index.shtml and i don't think
you'll find it a waste of time. :)

hmmm...i've been trying to avoid this topic, but have finally reached a
conclusion. well, i think it's emily, but...it does sound like the sort of
thing amy would say. my question is who says : " there's a lot of love in
this room" right after that? is it amy, or some other person unkbeknownst to
me? any ideas?
julianna banana
-charter member of the ssim yknib fan club
currently in the running for the whippersnapper representative!

in a message dated 97-03-07 04:06:58 est, trace@wolfenet.com (tracy - back
home with her mountain) writes:

<< saying my 3,000 "hail yknib"s, >>
ohmigosh......the little italian catholic girl inside me is crying out!!!
also, i'm bored sillly!
here goes:
our yknib,
who art in indie land
hallowed be thy name
thy yknibness come
thy will be done
on earth as it is in yknib heaven
give us this day our daily yknib post
and forgive us our flames
as we forgive those who flame against us
-----protestants continue-------
for thine in the yknibness, and the power, and the yknib glory
a-yknib

in a message dated 97-03-07 13:24:06 est, bonj1_95@worc.ac.uk (john bond)
writes:

<< think tori amos is still straight, because she's had a couple of
partners since she got raped (one of whom, her manager, she split
up with). that was the last thing i heard, so the situation might
have changed since then.

john.

>>
okay, here's my $ .02-------who cares????? i love tori and her music but
don't really find it necessary to delve into her personal sexual romantic
whatever life. let's start a new thread, please!
julianna
whippersnapper representative nominee

in a message dated 97-03-05 14:58:24 est, ps9c6okr@swansea.ac.uk (k.r.onions)
writes:

<>
wow. this happened to me the other day too. i was working on a 'puter at
school, finishing up my kick ass web page (which will be available to the
public very soon!) and i have, of course a whole long ig schpiel. so, this
girl sitting next to me is like "aaah. indigo girls." and i'm like, "yep.
they rock" and she says " wow. you're not gay and you listen to them?" my
reply- dropped jaw fish-mouth stare. she continues- " i work at spec's ( a
florida music store type thing) and every time someone comes in and buys ig,
tori amos, 10,000 maniacs, or ani difranco were all like- ooh, there goes a
gay person"
now< what i really wanted to do was get up right then and there in the
computer lab and yell at her for being a homophobic, prejudiced,
stereotypical freak, but all i did was ignore her. i'm an enfp- i'm supposed
to be the idealist-advocate. so why can't i ever speak up for myself???
oh well, going back to lurkland now
julianna
member of the yknib fan club, whippersnapper division representative
candidate, defender of good, and destroyer of evil.

i like you indigo girls iwant to be with you in bed

you scrawled: -----------> i like you indigo girls iwant to be with you in bed

that's nice. keep it in yer pants, kid. this is the indigo girls discussion list. you know, as in we discuss the music. what you want is alt.sex.whatever. what you need, well, we won't go there.

harrummmppphhh!

nasus nosnilmot
(and jocie, too!)

"grandpa, cut me a switch. there's fixin' to be a whippin'!" - grandma

hi everyone,

in response to a couple of threads lately, here are two
excerpts from the indigo girls faq. the faq, once again,
is available at http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/ig or by
anonymous ftp from chris becker's site at
ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/cmb/ig. if you haven't read the
faq already we really do recommend that you do so.

excerpt 1: regarding "romeo and juliet"
--
11.5. who wrote "romeo and juliet", and where can i find the original
version?

"romeo and juliet" was written by mark knopfler and can be found on
dire straits' 1987 album "making movies".

in a november 1994 interview amy said that she had learned a lot of
the songs from "making movies". "i used to play in a hotel lounge.
i thought ['romeo and juliet'] was an incredibly well written song
and i could relate to it at the time for some reason. it just kinda
grew and changed over the years." at the time, she said she had
never spoken to mark about the song and said, "i wouldn't even want
to know what he thinks."
--

excerpt 2: regarding "moo"
--
15.1. who says "moo" and "who loves us... nobody!" on "1200 curfews"?

emily, in both cases.
--

happy happy all,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"hey god, we're the bad kids, we're so nasty, mean and vile.
god looks like a guidance counsellor; god's got that smile.
god says, 'how could this be? that's really odd.
i guess i'll have to check my records - silly me, you know,
i'm only god!'" - dar williams

you are wierd...that was just a really lovely thing to say...thank you so
much for bringing such joy to my day.i'm glad to hear your life is so
amazing that you have nothing better to do than to join mailing lists of
groups that you don't and never will have understanding of.you are a troubled
soul.your mother must be so proud.

in the 2 (or 3) times that i've met amy and emily i think i have said the
stupidest things.  the real time that i actually really met them was
at newport ff 1996 when, by some act of god, i was called upon to sing
ctf with them.  after the song was done, i went to shake amy's hand and
she hugged me instead.  that was truly amazing.  i think i said, "thank
you so much."  then when emily came over i hugged her and said, "thank you
so much, i can't possibly express what this means to me."  thanks to
good ol' joe hamilton i have a great picture of emily and myself conversing
right at this moment.  anyway, after that, emily laughed and said, "you know,
we don't do that very often!"  i proclaimed, "i know!" and then once again
thanked her.  then i said, "i'll see you thursday in philadelphia" and she
gave me her pick.  she said, "okay, bye!  see you later!" and that was that.
        little to my knowledge i would meet them again 3 days later at
the roselands in nyc.  this time i was sitting at one of the tables and
my friend suzie was rubbing my feet because they hurt so much.  amy came
over.  she had just received a gift from someone that was wrapped in
dog wrapping paper.  i said to her, "hey amy, i like your wrapping paper."
and she said, "woof!" and then, "ya'll are funny."  i took that as a
compliment but basically felt like a total tool.  it's like that scene
in dirty dancing when johnny castle asks baby what she's doing there and
she replies, "i carried a watermelon. "  duh!  whatever- i think that every-
one has to say something totally stupid to someone that they really admire
at least once in their lives.  when i did speak to a and e that thursday
i think i was a little more calm and we actually had some sort of coherent
conversation because i came to the reality that they are just human beings,
like all of us.
        well, that was my little annual post.  hope all of my ig friends
are doing splendidly. :)
                                        love, lynn
ps- speaking of joe hamilton....did i hear a rumor that you are coming
to see us in the philadelphia area soon?

>the same question was asked of melissa etheridge in an interview once and >the exact same thing happened...she laughed out loud, and then >demonstrated

believe it or not, ig was asked that question over the radio during their first appearance on modern rock live. they both said that they used the get-it-in-between-those-two-little-wood-thingy's (trust our girls to be up on the lingo) and-then-flip-it-reallyreallyquick method. hmmm...it's never really worked for me. i just keep 'em in there until it comes time for me to do some crazy riff and smash my guitar into pieces. they usually come out after that.

incidentally, if i happened to be trapped in an elevator with a & e, i'd casually mention that i know both binky and sundara personally (don't you hate those name droppers?), and then ask if they'd like my autograph. hopefully they'd be able to contain their excitement until they were out of my earshot. i do so hate it when people gush.

heh.

cheerio all...
-greta

"indigo sounded good. it was either that or the georgia peaches." -a. ray

i recently wrote that e is a better songwriter than a. i also asked, if
we had
an opportunity to give a gift to a&e from the list, what would it be?
here i am
responding to my own thread before i could get any replies from all of
you:

whew!  i didn't get flamed yet.  o.k., i rethought some things.  a&e are
both wonderful songwriters, equally.  it's just that e's songs get to me
more.  nonetheless, e deserves a day, don't you all think?

i thought about a list gift for a&e after i posed that question. well,
actually,
i thought of two, but they both relate to em's songs. what came to mind
first probably
isn't very original, but here goes:

a complete, deluxe, unabridged gold-leafed edition of virginia woolfe's
diaries.
then we all sign it, and write messages of inspiration or of our
gratitude in it,
sort of like the gratitude em had for v.w.

hmmmm..... or......

someone from the list who is artistically inclined could paint/sketch a
big 'ol
portrait of galileo, and we could put it in a big 'ol fancy frame, and
then sign
that. would that be weird?

just thoughts.  i am sure that you all are much more creative and can
come up
with other ideas.  of course, this is all hypothetical, unless we decide
that it is
a good idea.  maybe people have even thought about or done something like

this before, but, of course, i am new to the list, and what do i know?

lisa

it is about time, for cryin' out loud!!!!  all i hear is amy this, amy
that.
what about em?  amy is intense, sexy,....i just can't find
the words, but you know what i mean.  but em seems gentler, kinder,
the sort of person who could be your best friend for life.  (not that
amy couldn't be, but if i ran into them on the street, i'd be much more
intimidated by amy than em, wouldn't you???  oh, maybe that's half the
fun....)
and you have to admit -  em does write better lyrics than amy, and play
the guitar better, as well as probably a hundred other instruments.
sorry amy obsessors, but give em her due for once.  go ahead, flame
me for all it's worth!

we will not be complacent!!!! - right on, elizabeth!

after i saw the survey results that have been posted recently, and saw
that "airplane"
was bottom on some people's list, i have to say.....that song is sooooo
cute. as a
window to a part of em's soul, it says much more than people seem to make
it out to say.
put it into perspective. not every song has to be an intense, love
crazed message to
speak meaningfully to us.

as far as requests at concerts go, do you think that crazy game would
have a chance
being played by a&e? i figure it is pretty old and wasn't a huge hit,
but damn it's good!
a&e seem to have fun performing it, too.

lisa

on mon, 10 mar 1997 16:49:06 -0500 "elizabeth m. bolles"
<wishmonstr@aol.com> writes:
>alright, emily people, we must take charge! how many amy days have we
>seen
>come and go?
>
>we will not be complacent!!!!
>
>come, join me, on thursday, march 13th for national emily day! listen
>to
>emily songs, obsess over emily things, talk about emily, take
>classical
>guitar lessons, and/or make an ass of yourself by (loudly) singing
>emily
>songs in public places! quote her as often as possible in papers, in
>speaking . . .
>
>this is your chance, people, to show your appreciation. go for it!!
>
>=)
>
>-elizabeth

hello, all!

i was just dubbing my 8/25/96 santa fe boot for a friend to listen to
while she's in her car driving away from mount holyoke during the concert
(there's a story here but i will spare you), and i realized that a&e did
do scooter boys at that show as a separate song.

a couple of people posted that it was done in the middle of shame on you,
but it wasn't. if you listen carefully, shame on you was definitely
ended. the tempo changed, and there was a brief pause before they broke
into scooter boys. it was only 3 minutes, so i'm guessing that they
added another verse or something before recording it. anyhow, the real
proof that it was its own song then is that, at the end of the song,
emily says "thanks for indulging us (something like that), >>we don't
know that one yet<<." she couldn't have meant shame on you because they
had played that one in concert almost ten times and had been doing it in
the encore for more than half of that (so were obviously comfortable with
it).

so, believe it or not, i think that this entire list of 800 obsessed
fans, many of whom have listened to that tape, heard a new ig song and
didn't even know it!

btw, i know that they first did like one or two verses of scooter boys in
the middle of other songs. it started as an insert, but developed into
its own song as witnessed in santa fe.

margaret, who is going to be listening to live ig in 48 hours

by robert c. morris (reprinted without permission)

amy ray's fiery passions and gale-force determination have been the
impetuses behind turning the ig into a national act. as the duo releases
their edgiest album to date, ray's demands on herself are as exacting as
ever.

"damn! damn!" amy ray abruptly stops stumming her guitar adn shouts at
the grinding, edgy music blaring from an amp just one inch from her
face. kneeling in the dark, glass-enclosed recording studio, she lets
her head drop to her chest. her long brown hair, thrown over her face,
sweeps down and brushes against the ripped knees of her blue jeans as the
music comes to an abrupt stop.

"let me just do it again," ray insists to emily saliers adn her other
colleagues staring in at her from teh other side of the glass.

it doesn't matter that its 11 at night, that she has recorded this track
for the ig's new album, tentatively titled map, over a dozen times or
even that she's pushed everyone in the studio, including herself, to the
edge. saliers, who had told ray at least a dozen times in teh last three
hours, to no avail, that her music sounds "great," "cool," even
"perfect," shakes her head and rolls her eyes.

for a moment the atlanta singer whose fiery passions and gale-force
determination have been the impetuses behind turning the ig into a
national act, selling 7 million albums in less than 8 years, slumps over
her amp in self-doubt. "i'm not sure i can do it," she intones to the
group watching her thruogh the glass.

but when the producer slides a couple of tiny levers on the giant mixing
board, and the music starts up again, ray comes to life. "here i sit in
the land of plenty, cryin' about my own virginity..."

still poised with her nose inches from the amp, she begins dipping her
head to the beat until she is writing with the sound, wildly strumming her
guitar, lunging toward the amp and reeling back, then singing: "scooter
boys and argentineans, europe shed the blood of the indian..."

"yeah! yeah!" saliers, the other half of the ig, shouts with approval.
in fact, everyone in the studio--the album's co-producer david leonard,
the band's veteran manager, russell carter, teh house engineer caram
costanzo, and even carter's 6 yr old son, evan--thinks the song rocks.
everyone, that is, except amy.

"let me just try playing alone," she tells them. there are several sighs
in the studio, and a frustrated saliers walks out.

as the music starts up again, ray remains transfixed on the sounds
blaring straight through her: "a chapter in the book on the americas,
you're just another colonial terrorist..."

ray's dark, wavy hair is perpetually in her face, her blue jeans are
almost always torn and she wears the checkered flannel shirts, boots and
baseball caps you'd expect to see on a truck driver. she's hot-tempered,
maintains an in-your-face attitude adn then, at other times, is prone to
hanging about dark corners, peering off into the stratosphere, brooding,
like a poet. but she also radiates other qualities--ethereal, soft adn
most definitely irresistible; she looks strangers in the eyes and flashes
huge smiles that light up a room.

"she's a very damnding person," says russell carter, the former attorney
from decatur who has been the igs manager since 1988. "she can be very
hard on herself and everyone around her, and then she can be a classic
sweetheart."

ray, 32, began really pushing the group in the mid and late '80s, just
after graduating from emory university.  she relentlessly called clubs,
asking if they had received demo tapes, if the girls could play and when
they would be invited back.  despite irritating some club owners, she
eventually won over almost everyone who said the band wouldn't make it,
including russell carter.  at the time there was a large community of
women folk singers playing in atlanta, including caroline aiken adn dede
vogt, and no one except amy ray believed the igs would break through onto
the national scene.  while saliers provided the perfect complement to ray
musically, emily wasn't certain things would work out and was
contemplating going on to graduate school.  amy, on the other hand, was
convinced that if they worked hard enough, she would find them a
recording contract.  "amy had this absolute sense that they were going to
be stars," says carter.  "she was like, 'let me tell you something--i'm
going to be a star.'"

then, in july 1988, everything chaged for "the girls," as they are known
by their devoted fans.  epic records signed them to a major contract,
which began a string of incredible successful albums, starting in 1989
with the grammy-winning ig, the self-titled debut record for epic.  that
same year strange fire was re-released; nomads, indians, saints came in
1990, back on the bus y'all in 1991, rites of passage in 1992, and swamp
ophelia in 1994.  in 1995 the band releases 1,200 curfews, a live double
album, which sold more than 500,000 copies.  they consistently sell out
arenas that seat 15,000 and have even developed a cultlike following that
refer to themselves as "indigo heads." and at a time when album sales are
down throughout the industry, the igs are considered one of epic's most
valuable assets.

"the girls have generated millions of dollars for this company," lisa
markowitz, the band's publicist, unabashedly admits. "they do their own
artwork, choose the themes for their packaging, choose their own
photographers, wear their own clothes. i always say to them, 'you don't
evern need epic. with a good distribution company you could put out your
own record.'"

yet as they prepare to release a new album early next month, amy ray
sometimes seems to be her own worst enemy. in fact, after years of
struggling to get the igs where they are, ray isn't sure success is such
a good thing. during a dinner break between recofding sessions ray and
saliers honestly discuss their differences about their future.

"if we're getting too much attention, i try to sabotage it a little bit,"
say ray, raising her eyebrows and flashing her million-dollar smile.

"our poor manager," moans saliers, adn they both laugh.

unlike her singing partner of more than a dozen years, and unlike just
about everyone in the music industry, ray insists she does not want a hit
song. "they can ruin your career," she says.

almost apologetically, saliers tells ray, "part of me just wonders, could
we ever havve a hit song? would that ever happen?"

in a moment of righteous indignation, ray says sharply, "i don't."

part folk singer, part saboteur, part self-described subversive, amy ray
is perpetually searching for who she really wants to be.  "i'm not
satisfied with this being a musician, you know.  i wanna go work on
housing projects or i wanna do this or..."  she pauses, squints her eyes
slightly and cracks a grin.  "i have 10 different careers i wanna have."

amy ray says she doesn't like being rich or famous, and yet she labors
for hours, days and someimes years perfecting a single song.  she says
she doesn't want fans looking to her for answers, but she wants change
the world.  she stands up for the pro-choice movement, environmental
causes, the rights of gay, native americans and mexican revolutionaries,
adn yet she says she respects sen. jesse helms ("i respect the fact the
he stands up so strongly for what he feels").  she plays benefit concerts
for gay causes, has publicly announced that she is a lesbian, and yet she
thinks the gay movement is too hung up on itself ("there's no excuse for
the gay movement to not stand up and reach out to other disenfranchised
people").  she's tough but prone to what her manager calls "blowups," and
she cries a lot.

"she's conflicted," says carter. "all of these conflicts provide a
tension in her life that leads to creativity. if she didn't have that,
she'd probably be messed up."

at 2:30 am on a rainy friday morning in little five points a raucous
crowd contnues to pack the star community bar.  word is out: amy ray is
in the house.  she's notorious for making impromptu appearances here,
and all eyes turn to the disheveled local folk heronine as she walks
through the crowd.  she bows her head and shrugs her shoulders, making
her way through the throng of well-wishers patting her on the back.
until 1988 the igs played in little five points regularly, drawing a
large and devoted following of fans.  tonight when ray walks onto the
stage, the crowd cheers.

but they aren't going to hear igs songs, songs of adolesence, lost
innocence adn renewed conviction. rather, ray huddles over her guitar,
picking along to an angst-ridden number by viva la diva, a local band
that ray has promoted on her grass-roots label, daemon records. after
several minutes she approaches the microphone, exchanging screeches with
the lead singer, cooper seay: "what you get!... what you want!"

ray is intensely committed to what many in the music industry would
consider lost causes.  she pours her own money into unprofitable music
ventures because, she says, "i want to nurture the underground music
scene in atlanta.  part of it is selfish.  i'm driven to do it for some
reason.  i believe in the underground, i really do, because i hope to
return to it."

contributing generously to charity adn the underground music scene in
atlanta, according to carter, is a major motivational factor for ray. "i
push her to go do a promotional activity so she can make some money," he
says, pausing, and then shaking his head in disbelief, "so she can give
it away."

ray's an agitator, a moral conscience, a folk heronine for the '90s.
she's committed to changing the status quo; during several conversations
last winter she meandered from teh plight of the zapatista rebels in
mexico to aids victims in atlanta who are dying in poverty to the
polarization of blacks adn whites in atlanta who don't live in the same
neighborhoods or socialize together. during a trip to mexico last summer
she visited chiapas, the heart of the zapatista revolution, slept in the
mud adn spoke to victims of torture adn rape, gun-toting revolutionaries
who hope to retake ancestral homelands adn reverse provisions in nafta
that, she says, make it impossible for the people to stay on their land.

deep conviction is both what makes her tick and what makes her music so
compelling.  she is a gifted songwriter, whether it's conjuring up images
of the promised land to describe a failed love and its lonely aftermath
or telling of a railroad car, filled with victims of the holocaust, that
is "bound for glory."  she dedicated a song to the late poet frank
stanford and sings openly about immortality, death and her wish to be "a
nomad, an indian or a saint."  with the new album, "we feel like we're at
a cressroads," carter sys.  the band had decided to stray further from a
mostly upbeat sound to something looser, edgier adn full of drums and
electric guitars.  it is one reason, says carter, there has been "a lot
of tension" making this new album.

ray's abiding need to be faithful to a world of misfits and the
dispossessed goes a long way in explaining why the igs have never been
completely accepted by the music establishment. their music is
routinely ignored by radio stations that play top 40 hits. "it's
unfortunate," says the band's publicist, lisa markowitz, 'they have been
ignored completely by mtv."

markowitz is the first to piaise the girls' intergrity and automony ("we
do not enforce any kind of artistic regulations on their creativity," she
says), but she also says, "they need me to tell them what to wear."
markowitz readily admits that her job promoting the girls would be made
worlds easier if they would just put on "armani suits and miniskirts."
but the fact of the matter is, "we don't have a choice," concedes
markowitz. amy ray in armani would be like arnold schwarzenegger in
drag. "it won't happen."

but the very thing that make amy ray unattractive to the mainstream make
her a heroine to another large and devoted segment of american society.
carter says market research shows that while the igs appeal to a large
female, straight and lesbian demographic, some 50 % of the audience is
male, and many are in their 40s and 50s, people who "grew up listening to
joan baez, peter, paul & mary who feel that they [ig] carry on that
tradition. when i speak of a cult, i also mean older people, people who
think they [ig] are on par with the causes they grew up with."

but ray's success also stems from her roots, of having come from several
generations of atlantans, and the fact that her lyrics, her passion, even
her need to create, are deeply embedded in the soul of the south.  she
often refers to church spirituals, the blues, jazz and early rock'n'roll
that originated in the south and recounts how she was inspired by thouse
traditions.  "i'm so southern," she says with a soft atlanta accent.  "i
feel indebted to my southerness, my attachment to the land, my blood
relationships.  the south is lke no other place--there are a lot of bad
legacies and a lot of great legacies.  it's the best of the best adn the
worst of the worst all mixed into this past."

and she's a southern woman who happens to be gay and famous and wealthy,
who isn't about to go away or shut up.  "i never worry about going up
agianst people," says ray.  "basically, i'm a subversive.  i feel like i
can accopmplsh a whole lot that way.  i don't want to be talked to as an
ig instead of me.  i don't want people trying to get to know me for the
wrong reasons."

and tonight at the star bar, ray is in her own element, amidst those whom
she trust teh most. people are screaming, clapping, banging bottles on
tables, a sea of women hugging women, men hugging women. when the band
comes back onstage, they do not play an encore but rather join the crowd
in one last round of applause for ray, who has returned to the belly of
the packed bar.

those who have seen amy ray perform live are almost always drawn to her
intense emotions, unwavering resonance adn the range of her voice.  she
can hit a strangely seedy adn tragic contralto and a chirpy,
crystal-clear soprano.  fans often say that even in a large venue,
watching the igs is an intimate experience.  offstage she is equally as
passionate.

emily saliers is sitting in the kitchen of the atlanta recording studio
southern tracks recording, trying to describe her singing partner, who is
in another room and yelling at somebody over the telephone. "you're just
running all over me and not letting me say a damn thing!" ray shouts.

saliers looks in the direction of the muffled shouting and says, "she's
just very driven to accomplish the things that she thinks need to get done."

saliers says ray has been a "big influence" on her and credits her for
"bringing things to my attention that i wasn't aware of."  while saliers
is known for her complex chord progressions, catchy lyrics and love songs,
ray is known more for her rough edges, simple, straightforward music adn
for songs of loss.  saliers speaks of ray's "vision" and how ray first
came up with her own marketing strategies for the band, such as playing
in rock clubs rather than limiting themselves to the bars adn clubs that
were friendly to folk singers.  "she brings an edge to my music," says
saliers.

suddenly amy appears from behind a closed door adn paces up and down the
kitchen.  for the next 30 minutes emily acts as a sounding board for
amy's latest family crisis.  emily attepmts to steer amy back to their
music adn the crew that awaits them downstairs, but amy grits her teeth
adn shakes her head.  because amy feels everything so intensely, it's
hard for her to continue.  she likens herself to the disenfranchised not
because she's gay, but because at times she sees herself going crazy.
"the old tribes, the crazy people, the were the shamans.  it's like
people that other people think are, like, lunatics usually see things a
lot more clearly.  they don't have the boundaries.  a lot of my friends,
they even classify me that way sometimes, but not usually.  i keep it
sort of to myself."

ray is driving down ponce de leon avenue in her toyota 4runner and has a
world of trouble on her mind.  the back seat is filled with several bags
of dog food to feed her four mutts, all former strays.  she says she's
been through a tough breakup with a lover, her aunt recently died and her
sister has tb.  and that's not to mention the brutalized mexican women she
can't get out of her mind.  it's obvious nothing can stop her from
continuously churning these concerns over and over again in her mind.
nothing can save her big heart from hurting. nothing, that is, save her
music.

"it never really stops for me," she says, staring at a few homeless men
who inhabit the strip. "i never stop thinking. it's hard for me to look
at a lot of the things i've dealt with in my songs. for me it's better
not to think about it and to write from the heart."

(thanks julie for the photocopy :)

hi ani fans,

i just got tickets to an ani concert today, as a response
to all of your loving remarks about her. okay, i admit i've never
heard the music. eeek, i know, i know. what is the best
ani cd i should get right now for some pre-concert listening so that
i can become one of you, the adoring fans?

lisa

hey all,

thanks to everyone for responding (or thinking long and hard, since
i'm sure you all had some sort of fantasy) about the elevator question.
you are all a riot! hope to meet you all in an elevator sometime,....
well, not all at once, but you get the picture. ;-)

if this scenario ever comes to pass (me working the backstage
elevator for an ig concert), what if i give them a gift from the list?
all i'd have to say is "this is a thanks from all your fans on the
indigo-girls list."  it can be something that we all send to each
other, home address to home address, one after the other, to sign and
put our own little message into.  and when it is all said and done,
it would be very personal and a piece of all of us.  any suggestions for
what we'd give 'em?

lisa

hi everyone,

it's been pointed out to me that there was an error in one
of the faq excerpts i posted to the list earlier on; dire
straits' album "making movies" was released in 1980, not
1987 as was listed. thanks to bbeas48@aol.com for setting
me, as it were, straight. the error's been fixed and the
corrected version of the faq is being uploaded as we speak.
sorry for the mixup.

also, i would like to hear one more time from any people who
are interested in getting pal versions of ig videos.  [note:
this offer is not open to people who use the ntsc format, eg.
americans and canadians.]  we're really truly almost ready to
start dubbing tapes soon (i hope) so i'd like to start setting
up the final version of the tree if possible.  the videos
we'll be offering are:
        - watershed
        - live at the uptown lounge
        - jesus christ superstar: a resurrection
        - a 60 minute "clips" video
        - a 120 minute concert video
(i still need to check the quality of the last two videos.)

if you're a user of the pal format and you're interested in any
or all of the above videos, email me and we'll start sorting
out the tree details. i also need people to volunteer to be
branches, so email me if you can help out in that department.
(thanks chiara!) email me folks, email me, email me. this
tree will only be offered once so jump on the train while it's
still in the station.

well, i guess that's all.  happy sunny days, everyone,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"hey god, we're the bad kids, we're so nasty, mean and vile.
god looks like a guidance counsellor; god's got that smile.
god says, 'how could this be?  that's really odd.
i guess i'll have to check my records - silly me, you know,
i'm only god!'"                - dar williams

on mon, 10 mar 1997, kewl kay wrote:

> who would buy tickets, or if anyone has any information about whether ig
> will be playing at duke.....

i am a duke student and am also anxiously awaiting more news of the
girls' pontential concert here. the latest word is that the freshman quad
council (who is sponsoring the concert) have not yet received official
confirmation from ig that they are definitely coming. they expect to hear
by the time we return from our spring break - which begins this friday...

so all we can do is sit and wait, i guess!

take care, all!

-- cheryl

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        to love for the sake of being loved is human,
                but to love for the sake of loving is angelic.
                                           -- alphonse de lamartine --
______________________________________________________________________________

>>>1.) what new instrument should emily learn to play *this* month?
how about a cuica?...i'm learning to play one ..but you should see the
strange reactions i get from those who hear my attempts.
..still thinking about the other questions. indigo is a given for the
cape color..
i'd like to order one of those flaming indigos' please.

mental gears grinding...
charter member of the yknib ssim fan club
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

ok, ok
        this may sound like the craziest thing but, after thinking about this
one for a day or so and having many discussions with my girlfrind about
meeting a and e i would rather not be in the elevator with them.
wait, wait now let me finish :)
        i have this fear of a or e just happening to be in a bad mood that
particular day and kindly (of course) saying something like "please
excuse me, i'm busy..." i'd be crushed!!! 8(
        i would love to let them know how much i love what they do, but uhh,
i'm scared "cause ya know they're only human and what if they actually
did a human thing in front of me?"      does anybody at all get this?
i guess i just want to keep them in a certain light.
        i have this "winning the lottery" theory that says:  if i'm not gonna
win the 26 trillion million bizzilion dollar jackpot, then i don't
really need to win at all.  the pain of missing the jackpot by one
number would be too much to take. ("sorry ma'am you missed the
$26,000,000,000,000,000,000,000... by one number but, here's your $5,000
for getting five numbers along with 2,000 other people).
        with a and e, its like if i can't be their friend and hang out with 'em
then i really don't need to meet them.
        disclaimer: of course i wouldn't, like, run from them or anything if we
were in the elevator together!!
        make what you will of this, its just me.
                        catherine (whose screen name will now be front row joe...aaa 213)

lbigc = lil' bit of ingigo girl content <sorta> ;)

closer to nine
<sung to closer to fine>

by t. fraps (w/ inspiration from h. dean & d. kirkwood)

i'm trying to tell you something 'bout our list party
fourteen were supposed to come but it ended up being closer to nine
(actually 10)
and the best thing the galveston krewe did for me
was to help me take my life less seriously,
cause it's only life after all, yeah
well tony has a hunger that's insatiable
but salray's blueberry cobbler hit the spot
darren arrived first, then tony, linda, margot, heather and sal....later
dana, ryan, steph and trant.....
by midnight we were crawling on the floor

chorus:
we went to the beach house on galveston island
we felt like children as we drank from the fountains (of beer and big red)
there's more than one intoxicant pointing me in a crooked line
sal sat behind don in the carriage
(the horse had a little ditty)
but after that, things were closer to fine
closer they were to fine

trant was the doctor of philosophy
he made us answer questions about 'spot' with a martin on his knee
we played all night and all day long
and we watched the disney movie (& jcs)
where we saw neilly, sharon & kirsti -- it was really groovy!!
the c-man spent 4 hours prostrate on the dining room floor
while everyone else jammed waaayyyy past three... :o

chickenman cooked two turkeys on the weber pit
he wanted to cook three, but they wouldn't all fit
heather and margot had to go to a wedding on saturday
but they were back that same night ("real troopers")
on sunday afternoon heather told margot "let's go! as the road to n.o. is slow"
but the chickenman said, "it's just two more songs and a slice of turkey --
yeah!"
so they stayed a while longer, a while longer, a while longer, yeah :)

we stopped by the walmart 'bout 1 a.m.
to seek blank tapes with some of our new friends
we fell into a photo booth, all six of us at once!
in the pic you can only see bits and pieces (of faces)
but steph and sal's great smiles give the picture clarity

trant led us on chiapas twice and we played that song by buffy saint marie
(bury my heart at wounded knee)
dana, linda and trant went through the (guitar) workout
and moonbeam and heather learned a few new licks
everyone sounded great!!!
'cept for the chickenman, but no one complained
just in case he wants to invite them back again....

closer i am to fine
closer i am to fine
closer i am to fine, yeah

thanx y'all,,,,, thanx y'all :)

at 04:49 pm 3/10/97 -0500, elizabeth wrote:

>come, join me, on thursday, march 13th for national emily day! listen to
>emily songs, obsess over emily things, talk about emily, take classical
>guitar lessons, and/or make an ass of yourself by (loudly) singing emily
>songs in public places! quote her as often as possible in papers, in
>speaking . . .

here here my friend!! sounds like a plan to me!! we need more and more
official emily days. actually, come to think of it, every day is an emily
day for me. my life usually revolves around the suggestions you made
(especially the making an ass outta yourself by singing emily songs in
public places). i guess the only way to make it special is to wear overalls
and grow tomatoes. count me in for emily day!!

------------------------------------------------------------------
"good clean fun...good dirty fun actually..."
-paul mccartney

http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/9404/macca.htm

hi y'all:

the opening band on this part of the tour, or so i've been told by numerous
sources here in atlanta, is lift. they're an awesome local band and with
their second cd coming out later this month. they'll be playing at rainy day
records and i'm sure rainy day has their first cd, stellar, as well.

back to lurk-land!

oh...does anyone know if tickets are available for the grand rapids show?
i'm from detroit and am thinking about coming up for that show in a few
weeks. thanks!

cathy
catguitar@aol.com

hi y'all,

sorry for the bandwidth, but i'm looking for alec (pop.pipeline.com). so
if you're out there alec, drop me a note about whether you're coming (or
not) to the list party on the 15th...and i have directions for you...but, i
can't get anything through to your mailbox...

once again, sorry everyone!!!!

peace,

jen

if i were in an elevator with a&e, i'm sure i'd faint. flat out faint....and
hope that amy knows cpr.

~ ~ ~ kylie

dig....when a&e clamber aboard your elevator, proper etiquette requires you
to smile, look them in the eyes, and say- "what floor please??"  when they
say, "eight" (in perfect harmony of course) you thank them, press 8 and then
and only then are you allowed to stare at the floor and/or the floor numbers.
this rigorous attention to tradition and  detail will keep your mind off of
the fact that you have wet your pants and slumped to the floor in a
hero-worship swoon ... i hope this helps.....
                                brian  ( who blurted out to billy joel, "i
had no idea you were so short!!)

                                today's quiz: q: did the above comment get
brian complimentary tickets to mr. joel's sold-out show???
                                 a) yes
                                 b) are you out of your mind????

correct answer : b)

i found this on hollywood online perhaps one of you folks in the la area
could find a copy of it
its from last year

livecompilation:liveperformancesofjoanosborne's"st.
teresa," the indigo girls' "reunion," bruce hornsby's "valley road"
and john hiatt's "cry love" are among the tracks on "live from the
music hall vol. 2," culled from in-studio segments aired on l.a. adult
alternative radio station ksca-fm (101.9). the cd--a limited edition
of 10,000 that will be sold only at the burbank virgin megastore
beginning saturday--is the second in a planned twice-yearly series,
with half the proceeds benefiting the surfrider foundation's campaign
for clean oceans and beaches.

at 11:38 am 3/12/97 est, chris mccormick wrote:
   i'm sorry, i've been on for about two weeks and while i have fastidiously
>  studied the annals of binky-ness available in the many binky-content posts, i
>  have yet to who (or what) binky is, and why the big deal.  flame if you must,
>  because maybe then i'll find out who i insulted.  :)

hi chris! (and others unversed in binkiness ;o)

        binky is an enigma.  whether you call_her_ yknib, binky, madame
dido_(btw binky's email address is mmedido@aol.com)_, or even claire johnson
...... she is one cool cat!!!!! :)
        miss binky is a fine artist, a graduate student of life, a music
connoisseur, a cat lover and a lover of all things indigo.....  binky has
remarkable wit and extraordinary humor and is capable of sending infectious
love and laughter across telephone wires_in a single bound_!!!
        miss binky is a work of art....poetry in motion....(you go gal....!!! ;)

for more info on this celestial one, go to her home page at:
http://members.aol.com/mmedido/index.htm

        i, da chickenman, had the proud privilege of founding the yknib ssim
fan club to honor miss binky's extraordinary existence (she's one of a kind
ya know?) and also to be a thorn (of sorts) in her side ;)
        the yknib ssim fan club was founded at 2:06 pm on 2/27/97, with 28
charter members.  charter membership is now closed, but regular membership
is _now open_.  if you are interested in joining, please email me privately
so i can put you on the rolls.
        there are no dues or responsibilities involved, to speak of,
however, a prerequisite is that you have a sense of the silly and the
spontaneous.  if there is some doubt as to whether you possess these
qualities, then charter member anj (the boilermaker) will have to administer
a test to see if you qualify.
        otherwise, your only duty is to love and honor miss binky to the
best of your abilities and to participate in our silliness!!! :)

there are five membership categories in the yknib ssim fan club:

        whippersnappers (under 21 years)
        overaged children (21-29 years)
        funkville (30 years)
        born-again adolescents (31-39 years)
        yknib-like (40 years and over)

so if you want to join in the madness let me know what group you belong in
as well!
btw currently whippersnappers compose the largest group of followers,
followed by overaged children.

black beans and alfalfa sprouts~
chickenboy

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d       founder ~ yknib ssim fan club                           r
i       lover of blueberry cobbler                              l
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o

okay, so you all got backstage, amy worships susan marine, the new songs are
so good you cant put them to words, or they suck and you are afraid to post,
for fear of flames? some of us would have had a bootleg transfered to a real
audio file on their own server running a chopped up www page (and of course
the techie's some of us are, they would have brought their digital camera
bypassing one hour photos and scanning. (yes i am being very sarcaristic
here...)

was their a horrible experience? is this list down???

hello

(echos in cyberspace...)

any body there???

margret? susan? deb?

a set list -- partial at least?

anxious-
mike r.

heads up, little twiddle dee dees!

i thought by now the illustrious woco gals would have written a lengthy
treatise on last night's show, but apparently not!

since margaret asskicker clayton will probably post the set list, i'llr refrain
(she has the boot...by a miracle of goddess! several of us up front got our
electronic goodies taken away...or batteries). we were smugglerettes
extraordinaire!

but anyhoo, she'll post that later. they did the entire new album (shaming the
sundara) and some of their oldies...galileo, least complicated, reunion,
chickenman...blood quantum, prince of darkness and chiapas bound as an encore.
and margaret and i were *elated* that they did not do ctf! yessss!

anyhoosit,

the show all in all was marvy. the woco gals held the front of the line for 12
hours for my workin-for-the-man ass until i arrived at 6-ish...and then, we got
infiltrated by a bunch of line jumpers, (insert newport flashback here) and
that sucked, but we handled it well..deb made sure the "security" folks knew
who was in front of the line!
we got in, went to the front o the stage, and proceeded to get edged in on by
lots of people who had just shown up but had friends working for "security". i
use that term lightly. the "security" people scuked the biggest weenies
imaginable. we'd ask them to help us keep the linecrashers out of our space at
the front, and they'd say "ummm, sorry, that's not my job". hello ms. moron!
what exactly is your job???

okay, enuff whining about the jerky security folks.

ulali opened up and they were faboo despite the rudest audience i can recall at
an ig show, most of whom talked thru the entire ulali set despite repeated
requests to shutthehellup. you know its bad when the band asks the audience to
shutthehellup. ugh! they were amazing too.

the show itself was great...the new album sounds great...they were both
absolutely beaming from ear to ear (yes amy too) throughout the show. amy, to
the surprise of me and jen lucero, played lead on a song or two! she has
definitely, definitely progressed as a musician in some pretty
unfunkinbelievable ways. they were polished but still workin the kinks out,
which i think we all find endearing.

highlight quote of the evening: amy referred to emily, who she says llikes to
do shots and once did a beerbong, as "the original frat boy". priceless!

okay, i have way exceeded my limit here, so i am gonna sign off and let the
others give their impressions.

thanks again to margaret, deb, jenni, piep, jen lucero, and all the others who
were there, at the front, all day. this list has some amazing people, and i'm
lucky to call y'all friends!

xoxo, susanna

"no penis comes between me and amy ray"

-deb o'donoghue
"grown ups don't drive two hours to go to rock concerts"

- one of susan's colleagues

if your name is below, your web site is included on the listee web site
i've been putting together, "indigo-girls@netspace.org members on the
web." if you're not on the list, and you want to be listed, send me your

name -- nickname -- email address -- url

title of site (if any)
and 3-8 line description of site.

remember that more enticing descriptions generally mean more visitors.

respectfully yours,
audrey

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hello all ,

as i am pretty new to this list i am going to kinda stick my neck
out...was listening to the beloved girls when some kind of poetic shock
went through my system (that or constipation) anyway i started thinking
about all the songs they had written and little snipets of info i had
heard/read...i was wondering if i could do all they have done and out
came this poem....i set it on the table for all those to either like or
dislike it... the references are so obvious, can you tell which songs i
took them from? enjoy or hate...

if i were amy, if i were emily

if i were amy
i'd cry with delight
if i were emily
i'd laugh at the sky
i would talk to the trees
and embrace the night
i would talk to the earth
find a safe place to lie
well the marks on my soul
i'll wear on my arm
buy a welcome mat
and keep my lover from harm
start climbing the hill
eventhough it's a mountain
buy pearls from a kid
but i don't have the outfit
could i be her?
could she be me?
could i handle the love
if i was emily?
could i get in the bus
if i was amy?
and if i lose my soul
will jesus save me?
i'll look at my past life
to see what i've done
have a talk to the man
in the warm texas sun
i'd write about virginia
have a drink at the bar
stumble on the street
and say good-bye to a star
could i be her?
could she be me?
could i handle the love
if i was emily?
could i get on the bus
if i was amy?
and if i lose my soul
will jesus save me?
can i cross that line
to find the desert?
can i play the game
and still find pleasure?

recycle religion...it's been done before,
nanzajellybean

"your actions will follow you full circle round" - _center stage_ by amy ray

just one last note about my last post..
i am sorry if it doesn't seem very ig related..but it's how i relate to
the indigo girls..
em

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      /\                     "if you're not angry      "i'd rather have
     /  \     "stop         then you're just stupid      a biggot think
    /    \        the         or you don't care           i'm a lesbian
    \    /    hate         how else can you react        then a lesbian
     \  /         and           when you know              think i am
      \/      start          something's so unfair          a biggot"
      /\          the       when the men of the hour            plag
     /  \     loving"    can kill half the world in war     ________
    /    \       e-40            or make them               \      /
   /      \                 slaves to a superpower           \    /
                             and let them die poor"           \  /
                                          ani difranco         \/

happy emily day, everyone!! make it a good one!

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * * *
i see you and i'm so perplexed
i see you and i
******dilate******

http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

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yes, it's thursday so it must be emily day!! i've been listening to
"4.5" this morning - only the emily stuff, and i realised how
perfect a and e go together (i know - everybody knows that - but it
just struck me really hard today).

along with that, the weathers been really nice today, and the sun's
been shining on my own little garden outside the window of my room.
i hope everybody else's emily day is as good as mine is!

john.

"oh, these little eartquakes,
here they come again....."

tori amos, little earthquakes

okay, okay..so i just woke up and actually read a few posts, and i was
horrified to see so much animosity toward listers, panic about silly
articles, and general chaos.
   i've been here all along, just not posting, but it's time to come out
of retirement and say a few things...
   people, grow up! we are all entitled to our own opinions, and if a
particular individual says something you don't like, then take it off the
list. don't, however, try to drive these folks out of here. we all have a
right to be on this list, which i thought existed as a place to share
info, ideas, thoughts, etc. and not a place to go around censoring folks.
    as for fearing that the girls are going to break up and leave us all
high and dry, well...relax. i've been hearing that rumor for years. they
aren't going to be together forever, you know, and they've had a great
run. i for one am keeping all available digits crossed that they'll be
singing together when they are both in their 80's...but i don't panic
anymore.
   as for the irc, the ig channel used to be great fun, and can be again
when all of us with busy lives finally get time to relax, so i hope all
you newer listers and irc newcomers will come on and hang around. if i see
you on there, i'll pop in for a bit.
                    hey, i'm not bitching about bandwith!

                             sharoane ( who got a new email account
                                       that won't crash from being
                                        overloaded!)

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hello all,

i just tried calling ticketmaster for wheaton college tickets for april
16th.  the concert line @ the school says that ticketmaster is selling them
starting today.  and ticketmaster doesn't seem to be selling them and don't
know what's going on, neither does the lady @ the student activities # @
wheaton.  does anyone have a clue?  if you do, please let me know.

thanks!

lanie ;)

okay...i just thought of this one. i think em should learn the bagpipes!!!!!! = ) i think that would be way too cool. now watch...she already plays them...she's amazing. = )

my other question: is there some brave soul who would be willing to call russel carter and find out if and when the girls are actually going to be on snl? i would, but.....i'm entirely too backward and shy...*blush* this, i think, is the only way (unless we see a commercial) we are going to know definitely. *sigh* thanks, guys!! have a great day!

jennifer w.

actually i just found a blurb on this week's snl. sadly, a and e will not
be on this week. the host is sting with musical guest, veruca salt. no
offense to vs of course though they don't quite reach the level of the
girls.

roger hannah
grad student/ig fan
university of washington
seattle, wa
"look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it"--jules renard

i'm going! woo-hoo! just thought i'd share that little bit of indigo joy.
i was wondering, though--would anyone out there know where we're sitting?
i have row gg, seat 103...it says "orchestra", whatever that means.

thanks in advance - and a very happy day to you all!

:) stephanie

________________________________________________________________
stephanie lingwood lingwood@u.washington.edu
"and i know i'm small in a way, but i know i'm strong"
______________________________-indigo girls, "it's alright"_____

hey all of you out there in indigoland!!!

i'm really sorry that this has taken so long to get the information to
all of you, it has taken this long to get this thing all together.
after reading the article from atlanta meagazine i am so glad that we
are doing this- amy needs more happy moments in her life.

the response to my very first post was amazing, y'all are great!  for
those of you who missed out on the post and have no clue what i am
talking about, here's the deal:  a couple weeks ago i proposed that the
list could come together to raise a donation for honor the earth (hte),
an organization that the girls are really involved in, the money would
then be given to amy on her birthday as a present from the list.  (amy's
b-day is april 12).  this is a chance to go beyond buying the albums and
going to concerts to show the girls how much they have moved/inspired
us.  it is basically to show amy how much we appreciate, admire, and
support her in her work for hte, and just to say happy birthday :).  for
all of the broke students on the list (yes, this includes me), this
project is perfect for you, it's something really cool that won't cost
you your life savings to be a part of.  if all of us (and there ae a lot
of us on the list) chipped in at lease $5 each, think of how much that
would add up to!  i'm talking about a lot of money that will go towards
a cause that is so incredibly important to all of us as fellow human
beings.  (if you would like more info on what hte does, check out their
web site at http://www.honorearth.com).

before going on i just want o thank all of you who responded and gave me
encouragement to continue the project, y'all are great! i would also
like to send a great big thank you and a huuuuuuuuuuuge hug out to greta
who really, really helped with this project and without her i probably
would have been lost on this thing. thanks sweetie!!!!

the plan is for everybody to send their donation to hte (address to
follow, just keep reading on).  greta has graciously offered to be the
collector for this, so to make her job easier please do not send any
extras like birthday cards for amy or whatever.  greta will keep a
collection jar thingy with all of the donations and will give me the
amount raised (just the figures, not the actual money)on april 10.  i
will then present a card to amy with the amount raised at the april 10
concert.  included in the card will be a list of all who donated to the
cause.  the card will be presented along with a piece of native american
art.  we would like to keep this a surprise for amy, so if any of you
talk to the girls between now and then, please do not mention the
project.  this is just so it will be more profound.

so, what exactly is going on and what do you need to do to get involved?

1. $5 is just the starting point for your donation, if you have more
that you can donate, please do!!! every bit helps the campaign that
much more, feel ree to contribute as much as you can :).

2. make checks and money orders payable to honor the earth

3. send your donation to:

honor the earth
c/o greta gohn
po box 502
chimacum, wa 98325

mark the envelope with either "amy donation" or "amy birthday" also
include a note with your name and hwo much you donated and if you would
like some of your donation to go towards purchasing the art piece for
amy.

4. if you would like to send a card or anything else to amy for her
b-day, please send it to the ig fan club, not honor the earth.
there will be a card presented to amy when she recieves the total.

5. if anybody has artistic talent and would like to make the card for
amy, please let me know (mandi96@airmail.net).

6.  another thing to make this a personal thing for all of you, i will
make a list of the people that donated that will go into the card to
amy.  to get on the list all you need to do is send me an email after
you send your donation.  in the message to me please include your
email addy, yuor name, and a message that you would like to send to
amy.  this is a totally optional thing, so if you just want to donate
and do not want to be on the list that is okay by me.

7.  we have tried to make this as easy as possible so that all of you
can join in.  if you have any questions about what is going on
please feel free to write me at "mandi96@airmail.net".  i will make sure
to read the messages with "hte/amy's b-day" or something to that
effect in the subject line first when i get my mail everyday.

8. please try and get your donation in the mail asap just so it will be
recieved in time to be included in the count.

one more thing, many people have mentioned giving a present like this to
emily.  i think that we should definitely give a gift like this to both
of them.  we will need to decide on an organization for emily's present,
suggestions are welcome.  right now i would like to finish amy's present
before really starting emily's though,  we have three months for emily
and only one for amy.

"no other government on the face of this earth has murdered more
indigenous people that the united states government, and it's time for
the united states government to face up to its history." zack de la
rocha

"if we build a society based on honoring the earth, we build a society
which is sustainable, and has the capacity to support all life form. if
we honor the earth, we guarantee our collective survival." winona
laduke, indigenous women's network

"i will not be complacent!" amy ray

okay everybuggy, the bandwagon is leaving the garage, jump on in!!

love,
mandi

okay i have a lot of work to do, but somehow this is more important..
ever since i read the article (thanks for posting it) about amy i have
been noticing how hard i take the world around me into myself.  i wonder
if that made sense.. let me try to explain.. i work with people with aids
and more then that i try to educate others about aids.  the more i try
though the more i am confronted with ignorance.  so many just want aids
to be an "other" to keep it outside of themselves.. they just don't seem
to care since it hasn't touched them personally. i try to do all i can to
help and educate and prevent.. but somehow it just isn't good enough
recently.. i am not content to try and help.. i want things to change.  i
don't want to be asked if i a lesbian because i go to aids coalition
meetings..i don't want to hear girls on my hall (i am in college)
say aids can be transmitted by mosquitos.. i actually sat in my room last
night and listend to a girl tell me that i the heat of the moment she
really didn't want to tell a guy to stop so they could "roll something on
him"(ie. use a condom).. my friend told me today that there is only so
much i can do.. there comes a point where each person has to take
responcibilty for him/her self..while i know this is true i somehow can't
just sit here and watch this go on around me.  then agian i can't give
safe sex lectures to everyone i know either..so where does that leave me?
it leaves me frustrated and swinging in park with children and driving for
hours until i am lost with ig blaring in the back ground to keep what
little sanity i have left intact.
okay, that's all of your time that i will take up for now..but this is not
just with aids.. i have encountered the same attitudes (it's not affecting
me) with the hispanic children i tutored.. their mother once gratefully
thanked my friend and me for being some of the few people who care in this
world.. i know we aren't the only ones..but i know there aren't enough of
us either..
peace and love,
em

greetings.  well, someone asked for suggested listening, which of course left
   the door wide open for me to needlessly inform the whole list about my
   personal music tastes. :)  so, here are my thoughts on the subject.

for my money, there is no band like ig.  there are a few bands trying to be,
   but no one does it.  if you ask ig fans who else they like, these names will
   come up a lot:
         ani difranco
        *tori (no i'm not gay) amos  (get _little earthquakes_)
         melissa etheridge
        *lisa germano  (_geek the girl_ is great)
         jane siberry
         natalie merchant/10,000 maniacs
         kate bush
         joni mitchell (who i suspect is the same person as kate bush. ;)  )

these people are not very much like ig, just popular among their fans.

also, there are people who have opened for ig and are interesting:
       *big fish ensemble (w/ michael lorant from jcs)
        kristen hall
       *billy pilgrim (these guys play some flabbergasting rhythm guitar)
       *danielle howle (sometimes with bands, either the tantrums or lay quiet
            awhile. she lives in my hometown.)
   the girls show their superior taste by picking terrific unexposed groups,
and they have launched several careers.

friends of the girls (who may have opened for them but i didn't know it.)
gerard mchugh
*michelle malone and band de soleil

other stuph i like that has little to do with the rest of this:
    *gillian welsh- great songwriter, falls somewhere between folk, bluegrass,
        and pop
    *poi dog pondering- a crazy group with shifting members (last i heard they
        had seventeen) that plays all sorts of world and folk instruments in an
        acoustic free for all.  (try _volo volo_)
    *jeff buckley- son of folk troubador tim buckley, jeff mixes jazz and blues
        into his songs.  very intellgent lyrics and the most incredible elec
        guitar i've ever heard except for hendrix and----
    *neil young- the girls got me started on him. get anything you can. i think
        this is the direction amy ray is pushing towards.  this sort of edgy
        rock pops up in _touch me fall_ and live versions of _pushing the
        needle too far_....
    *ben folds five- ok, these guys have _nothing_ whatsoever to do with ig,
        but i can't pass up a chance to plug 'em.  a three piece band centered
        around the piano playing of ben folds (who is just as creative as tori,
        i think) this is some of the most original, smart, and fun music i've
        heard in a long time.

sorry for such a long post.  hope it helps some.  definitely let me know what
    i missed. (esp. good opening groups, i know i missed some of those)  and
    if anyone likes these guys and wants to talk about'em, i'd love too.

hoping greg flamer doesn't hit me too hard for
long, irrelevant posts, chris mccormick

"brevity is the soul of wit." wm. shakespeare
"oh yeah?" kenneth branaugh

ps- there _is_ a two-girl acoustic group called disappear fear (and they're gay
too!) who are obviously working for indigo girls-ness, but to me they fall way
short....

hi all
i was at the indigo girls contest site at scholastic and they said that a
seven song interview casette accompanied their lyric writing contest
package sent to teachers....so i was wondering, are there any teachrs (or
students) who have listened to this tape? i wonder what they do to
explain their lyrics and what songs they chose for the casette....just
curious.
dave
thnks
:o)

mike, mike, mike, please don't tease me like this .... i need more info
on this! any idea where i can find out more, like venue, tix, etc.

this is such an incredible lineup ... and in the middle of it is great
big sea who got their start playing our engineering student society
socials back in newfoundland ... i can't believe they're going to share a
stage with the likes of john prine, van morrison and the chieftains.
that is just too cool! :)

so, mike, if you have any more info, please pass it on. thanks!

karen

> > irishpolooza
> > guinness fleadh: randall's island/june 14-15
> > confirmed talent as of 7 p.m. e.s.t. 3/11/97
> >
> > saturday, june 14
> > van morrison
> > sinead o=92connor
> > christy moore
> > the chieftains
> > shane macgowan
> > black 47
> > tommy makem
> > john prine
> > maura o=92connell
> > jimmie dale gilmore
> > paul brady
> > ashley macisaac
> > the mahones
> > susan mckeown
> > the devlins
> > cherish the ladies=20
> > pierce turner=20
> > frances black
> > katell keineghy
> >
> > sunday, june 15
> > van morrison
> > natalie merchant
> > the chieftains
> > suzanne vega
> > wilco
> > richard thompson
> > the neville brothers
> > billy bragg
> > paula cole
> > john wesley harding
> > freedy johnston=20
> > big geraniums
> > sinead lohan
> > moxy fruvous
> > great big sea
> > mundy
> > ben lee
> > makem brothers
> > mary black
> > =20
> >

hi all,
i just bought a copy of the atlanta magazine in a magazine store in d.c. they
also carry it @ the borders on rockville pike & at the newsroom in dupont
circle. not terrifically helpful if you don't live in the d.c. area-- but
give your local borders a call & they might surprise you!

(in general though-- support your independent bookstores!)

--alexandra

howdy! the mount holyoke show was a mixed bag for me despite the fact
that they were playing at my alma mater. here's how it went:

russell carter came out and asked the line if we would mind if they
played the entire new album from start to finish, in order. we said no.
he said they would play some old stuff after that.

he also said that ig will not be playing newport this year, because they
had done it so much in the future. this year's newport will be a tribute
to joan baez. he said ig might "fly up to do a song or to with her."

he said different groups would be opening for them throughout this leg of
the tour--everyone will be doing one or two dates each.  ulali opened
this show.  they are a native american a capella group, and they played
the first and last tracks on honor.  (their name, incidentally, is
pronounced, "oooh-lah-lee," with the stress on the last syllable.)  they
were quite good, but the audience had a tendency to talk over them.
russell also said that ani difranco would open some shows.  (he didn't
say which ones.)  he said that ig will be playing on several tours this
summer--lilith and shed, i believe (not sure about the last name.)  he
said they would be going _all over_ the country, so everyone should be
able to catch them.  the only date i remembered concretely is chicago in
july.  (i don't have a particular day.)

anyhow, the set list went like this:

1. "shame on you"
2. "get out the map"
3. "shed your skin"
4. "it's alright"
6. "caramia"
7. "don't give that girl a gun"
8. "leeds"
9. "scooter boys"
10. "everything in its own time"
11. "cut it out"
12. "burn all the letters"
13. "hey kind friend"
14. "galileo"
15. "reunion"
16. "least complicated"
17. "chickenman"

--encore--
18. "blood quantum"
19. "chiapas bound"
20. "prince of darkness"

some comments on the set-list:  no closer to fine!!!!!   this made all
the listfolks who i saw that the show very happy, though i know many like
to hear it time and time again.  i have to admit its absence kind of
didn't give me closure on the show.  i was like "no, it's not over" until
everyone left.  interestingly, it was on the set list.  so, i think that
they were planning on doing it as a second encore and then the stupid
fools at mhc turned on the lights.  anyhow, we've had this conversation
on the list before so let's not have it again now.

*shame on you*
there's a major jam here. the song contains everything it originally
did, and then, at the end, again, "road block trippin' in the middle of
the night, up at gainesville." innediately after gainesville it
ends--very abruptly (not a bad thing, i just don't know another word for it.

*get out the map*
this song now starts "i'm gonna clear my head/i'm gonna drink that sun"
with no music behind it, and then goes into "the saddest site my eyes did
see."

*shed your skin*
this one's a rocker.  i couldn't quite make out the words, so i probably
can't transcribe them for you either.  lots of ulali and "come on over
baby."  amy said "this is one of the those songs you just don't know if
you can do with two people."

*it's alright*
this one's been done up quite a bit. it sounds great! there are little
electric jam periods after every verse. very cool.

*caramia*
emily's on electric for this, amy's acoustic. it's very done up.. a new
kind of emily song, i think. it sounds much more.. supported musically
since i last year it, but i'm not sure this is a good thing.

*don't give that girl a gun*
man!  whoa.  i thought amy was going to cry during this one.  i think
that this is the next blood & fire--enjoy it now 'cuz i bet she won't
sing it forever.  this song does have the new verse in it that we heard a
while back--"take your first shot baby it will be real clean, take the
next shot..."  there's a lot of stress on the "'cuz i'm your fool" part.
you can tell she means it.  as an aside, wouldn't it suck to be cooper
now?  i would just die if my ex- was singing a song like this about me,
nevermind the fact that the ex- is amy ray and she's singing it to
thousands of people at a time, many of who know it's about you.

*leeds*
ulali does a lot of back-up vocals on this which enables me to understand
how and why it beat out winthrop for the piano song on this album. very
good. ulali is, as russel carter said, "all over the new album." they
played on most of the new ig songs.

*scooter boys*
yup, this is the one we thought it was.  it's a rocker, and very good.  i
will work on lyrics for y'all.  starts:  scooter boys and argentinians,
europe shed the blood of the indians.  here i stand in the land of
plenty, worried about my own virginity.

*burn all the letters*
i missed this entire f*ckin' song because security was agressive,
offensive, and out to get people.  they busted three people around me for
cameras or taping equipment--two who were right next to me.  yikes!!!!
it was weird.  so, i was trying to figure out what to do with myself.
i will listen to it again and try to get lyrics.

*chiapas bound*
this song rawked (as opposed to "rocking," which it didn't 'cuz it's
still a balad. :) ) anyhow, amy added in a lot of stuff, like the
following verse which went right before the end:

baby, i got something to stand for
i got somewhere to go
i just need someone to stand with [people raise their hands]
it ain't no good just bein' alone

[then]
when you said you might go down to mexico
i think i might go there too
but it's probably too late to find someone like you
yeah it sounds really cool to be without a care in some southern town
but i heard there's trouble down there if you're chiapas bound

now, against my better judgment:

*fashion update*
not much new goin' on here.  amy worse white jeans and the lower east
side needle exchange t-shirt.  emily wore a black turtleneck (something
she probably regretted as she was sweaty by the end of the night (so was
amy)) and navy overalls.  she had this chain jewelery bit goin' on
still.  i'm not sure what i think about that.  it doesn't quite go with
how i conceive of her, but i'm sure that's my problem not hers.

*best line of the evening*
russel carter "amy and emily turned down smith for mount holyoke."
yeah, baby!!!!! woo-hoo. that one's goin' in the mhc yearbook.

*list update*
lots o listies were there--susie b. "badass" marine, piep of the cup
fame, renee and jennie from smith, deb o'donoghue, chris imershein (sorry
if i butchered your name), jen lucreo, and lots of other people whose names
aren't coming to mind now simply because i am tired (so please don't take
offense).

*venue*
i won't go off on mhc security because i know someone else will and i go
to school here.  but i can say that it was, without a doubt, the worst
security i have ever seen anywhere for anything in my entire life.
someone actually trampled a member of our party (who was hurt) and
security wouldn't even ask her name.  (they were both mhc students, and
they obviously think nothing of our honor code, but they can shit all
over it if they want.)  anyhow, that was in the very beginning.  after
the 500 people behind us realized that they really couldn't fit between
us (at rows 2-5 center and amy-side) and the stage, everything was fine.
oh, oneguard brought up two friends to stand with her after we all were
there.  then they brought friends, and piep went off at them and scared
them away!!  then we had a lot of room and were very happy.  we had lots
of room and everyting, and the show hadn't even started yet!  go piep!
my hero.  :)  well, i guess i went off anyway.  :)

anyhow, it was standing room only on the floor and then there were two
seated balconies above. i think all the seats must have been good. once
the show got started no one was too pushy, except security.

ok, i am off. i will see everyone at hofstra!

margaret

ps-i'm not trading the boot until i graduate (may 25, 1997--woo hoo!)

okay, after all those amy days one emily day can't balance things. thus i
declare that:
jan 1, 2001be the start of the emily millennium!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(yes that is indeed the first day of the new millennium, no arguments
please!)

  for those amy people who will consider this a little extreme, i declare
jan 1, 3001the first day of the amy millennium.  i am sure that after
2000 years everyone will come to accept the genius of the girls and build
a society based on the teaching of their music.  perhaps body
preservation techniques and genetic engineering will even make it
possible for the e and a to be brought back and continue to spread their
teachings. we of course, as list members, will be viewed by future
generations as ancient  "prophets", and our words will be pondered and
studied by students, philosophers, and world leaders alike.
  thank you for sharing my vision, and please begin preparations for
emily's 1000 years of glory and praise.

humbly,
jeremy

hi everybody,

i was just looking at the verion of "this train revised" that
was posted and i found a few mistakes
i'm too lazy to type the whole darn thing up so i'll just
tell ya' what's wrong...

the song is capo 2nd frett
and tune to eadgae

--not--

capo 3rd and
tune to eadgae

and in the first virse second line there is two measures with no words
under them, don't play those. they shoulden't be in the song.

other than that i didn't notice anything.
'till next time....
---sara karges

> it makes sense though. they have a concert in ma today (wednesday) and
> then
> they are free until sunday (which is the hofstra (l.i. ny)show - which i
> might add i am sooo psyched about because i'll be there). so they could
> come
> to nyc wednesday night/thursday morning and prepare for the show from
> thursday until saturday. if it is true, i will be seeing the girls two
> nights in a row "live" (one night more live than the other but 'live'
> just
> the same!!)so maybe it isn't as unlikely as it seemed???
> hoping its true,
> dave
>

as far as i know (through the show and tv guide), sting is hosting and
performing on sat. so sad...
stephen
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how 'bout the bag pipes. with her passion, i'm sure she could make them
"sing". plus, she just may be irish - so it would work!

- jen hall

============================
"and when you're learning to face
the path at your pace very choice
is worth your while." - emily saliers

i am on an incrdible post concert happiness right now, and wanted to
share good vibes with you all(:  the concert last night was wonderful.
i've never been that close to the stage, and they totally rocked.  they
played the new album in order, and then played some old stuff, including
galileo and chickenman.  the encores were blood quantum, chiapas bound
(which amy has added to and it sounded great), and prince of darkness.

they seemed so happy to be playing, and i've never seen amy smile so
much. the crowd was a little crazy, but it was all worth it (including
the 8 hours in the cold).

when i got home my housemates said i was glowing, and they laughed at me(:

happy indigo day,
jennie

ps ulali opened, and they were wonderful! they also came back out and
sang on several of the new songs, including leeds(!)

i have not had any messages for about two hours...just curious if it is the
list or server...

sara

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"hatred nurtured is suicide prolonged."
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hi. in the midst of couting the minutes til the new album i'm looking
for some songs and some particular boots to tide me over. i have a
number of boots myself so if anyone wants to trade, write me back and
we can negotiate. i am looking for the '87 haverford college boot, one
entitled the dugout from '86, as well as the april and march '88 boots
from chapel hill, n.c. i was also wondering if anyone had a good boot
from the newport concert last summer. anyway, if you have any of these
write me back and we can negotiate a trade. . . also, does anyone know
what the lyrics are to emily's new song "leeds"? on the one cut of it
i have most of it is fairly clear but there is one part where the
crowd starts screaming like crazy (who could blaim them? it was a new
emily song after all. . .) and i can't for the life of me understand
what is being said. . .please respond to my home email address which
is cathley@aol.com. . . thanks a million. . .

-catherine (cathley@aol.com)

"but you who dream of freedom must not yourselves be fooled. before
you get to plea for freedom you have agreed to be enruled. if the body
stays a shakle then the mind remains a chain that links you to your
destiny whereby all good souls are slain."

-ferron

on wed, 12 mar 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> if my editor jerry seward can figure out a big long email longer
> then this one i think u cna figure out one sentence

the difference, mark anthony donajkowski, is that jerry is your editor
and we are not. perhaps s/he should clean up your posts before you send
them.

margaret

hi y'all,

just thought i would be the first to jump in and let you know how the
first pre-album tour date went and the nuggets of info that were gleaned
from a group chat with russell carter before the show.

to sum up...the wait outside was very cold, but the company was
great!!

the show was great...both of them were in great spirits...chatting,
confident and at ease...and amy was probably the most confident and
relaxed i have ever seen...

the set list was voted on beforehand by those of us in the front of the
line...we opted for hearing the entire new album, in the order it will
appear followed by some old stuff...

not very many changes to the lyrics from demo tour material...except at
the beginning of "cut it out" it's..."i'm sitting in darwin's
theory/you're down in the forty-eights...which is a bar in alaska where
the bartender forces you to drink shots...amy kept pouring them on the
floor...

the new songs..."shed your skin", "scooter boys" and "burn all the
letters" were great!! of the three, "scooter boys" rocks and the lyrics
are quite powerful...

also there's a verse added in "chiapas bounds" that makes the song even
more poignant...something to the extent of it being hard to stand alone,
which is where emily joins in...

last note...they did not end with ctf...which was a welcome change and i
don't think my ears could have handled the additional high pitched
screaming it would have caused.

great show musically...the girls were incredible, ulali was great and i
am going to be very kind and not say anything derogatory about the
audience...oh how i wish for "old days"!! but i'll keep going...even if
i have to get there several hours early....

now for ig info straight from russell carter....:

album release...april 29

sara, jerry and a "mystery guest" will be joining the girls when the
official tour starts right around memorial day

the official tour is beginning in atlanta, then moving towards texas,
then up to chicago and back down the east coast. no definite dates/venue
have been annnounced yet...

the girls are doing a high school tour...no venues chosen
yet...possibilities include using a large venue outside of the high
schools and designating it as a high school show.

the lyric contest....all entries are going to scholastic america first,
they'll pick out the top 100 and then a&e will choose from those.

the girl's will also be participating on a women's tour sometime this
spring/summer...russell said that basically every female artist will be
participating on the tour at one time or another.

oh yeah, ani is sure to make an appearance at some time on the
tour...and the girls will also be doing to the same for her...

the girls <bold>will not</bold> be performing at newport this year...nor
will they be doing the new orleans jazz fest...

also, there will probably <bold>not </bold>be an overseas tour this
year.

and lastly, the honor the earth tour will be east coast oriented this
year...new york, north carolina, florida and a few other places...

that's it for now...thanks for reading!!!!!!

well, only three days to hofstra...hope the audience is a bit more
sane...or rather mature...

jen

i have one extra ticket that i purchased from ticketmaster....paid about 28
for it...

would consider trading it for some quality ig boots... or cash i guess...let
me know soon so we can arrange something....

my preference is dealing with someone from lower fairfield county ct..so the
exchange is easier...

i live in stamford.....

thanks

andrew

tell you what margaret just for you ill start flaming eveyr single person
that remotely pisses me off just like you so dont make any non ig post no
posts abotu no fear or melissa ethridge or ani or anyone else since this
is a ig list and not them and make sure all sig are 4 lines or less as per
netiquettte then of course we will all have to have ohnly one writing
style since everyone is suppose to be like everyone else now then your a
captian on the list police?

on thu, 13 mar 1997, margaret a. clayton wrote:

> on wed, 12 mar 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> > if my editor jerry seward can figure out a big long email longer
> > then this one i think u cna figure out one sentence
>
> the difference, mark anthony donajkowski, is that jerry is your editor
> and we are not. perhaps s/he should clean up your posts before you send
> them.
>
> margaret
>

hello everyone:)
i know you probably don't care to hear one more person whine about the
list, but:) here goes:)

i have received a few messages about the length(short) and frequency
(too much, evidentally-i mean shoot-do people really not have anything
better to do than discuss my posts instead of ig?)of my posts, heard
people bitch about punctuation(both about who is not using it, and people
who won't use it) and just a lot of silly whining.  i love the indigo girls,
i like a lot of what goes on it this list, but it seems like half of the
messages are people bitching(like this one) a little more of people saying
silly stuff (which i personally think is great-how else will we get to know
each other?)and just a little of the things that this list is about-ig.  i mean,
there are people complaining that amy or emily wouldn't like so and so talking
about this or that.  how do we know?  but, i am sorry. this is silly, this post
makes no sense(along with a lot of others) and i will probably get flamed all
over the world for it.  everybody needs to grow up a little(myself included).

anyways, i hope you all can find a way to get along and have good times with
indigo girls and each other.

have a lovely spring and enjoy all of your concerts:]

selena

i'm sorry to bother everyone but is there anybody out there who can help me
find 2 tickets to the elmira, ny show???

i would really, really appreciate it if anyone can help me!

thanks,
carlisle

i'll give a brief run-down of what made the mhc show the coolest!!

the opening band was a native american, all female, trio called ulali.
they provided and interesting twist!  they played for about
30 minutes before relinquishing the stage to amy and emily.  it took
about another 30 minutes for the crew to set up, and finally we were
graced by the presences of ms. saliers and ms. ray.  they played all of
the new album through in order of the cd traks, calling it an
"experiment" that we would probably hate them for.  but, of course, we
didn't.  who could ever hate amy and em!!!  it was an interesting "sneak
preview" of sorts.  the biggest cheers erupted during both shame on you
and it's alright....apparently the lyrics have stayed the same from this
summer!!!  another interesting moment was the introduction of emily's new
wah-pedal.  the dialouge went something like this.....
amy:  "are you going to use that da-da-da thing??"
emily:  devilish smile
amy:  "emily got a new pedal, and we sat on the ground and played with
the knobs....'uh...did you read the instructions'...."
emily:  "yeah, toys for girls!!!!!"
amy:  "we're not even going to get into that....."
in incredibly funny bit of conversation, which, of course, had the
audience bursting into laughter.  the new songs were fabulous!!  but,
would we expect any less!!?? :-)  teh opening band joined for 3 songs,
including leeds, as they did on shaming of the sun, providing even more
insight into the upcoming album.  after the new songs had been played,
they broke into galileo, which emily relinquished the mic to the audience
for some of the song.  among the other oldie but goodie songs
were....least complicated, chickenman, reunion, blood quantum, and prince
of darkness.  amy also played chippias bound.  all in all, and amazing
show, one which i'm sure i wouln't stop talkng about for a long while.  i
think we all owe a big round of applause to the network at mhc for
pulling this off (even if things were a bit hairy....).  ok...two posts
in two days is quite enough for this lurker!!!  hope to see you all at
unh, i'll be in the 12th row!

~jess

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"toys for girls!!!!"
-e. saliers
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i lost the list of people that were playing at the irish fest...could
somebody send me another copy. thanks...

mindala

hi y'all,

i just remembered something else that russell said...

the girls are going to have a pay-per-view concert filmed/recorded at
great woods in massachusetts.

and the girls are also playing madison square garden sometime during the
official tour. according to russell they hate the idea and want nothing to
do with it, but he convinced them that for the marketing and record company
suits, it's necessary to prove they can fill up a venue such as msg...so
when that date comes around...everyone should buy a ticket for it!!!!
besides, it's reserved seating and the tix are only $25!!

oh, and a funny side bar...russell said that when they're looking to set
their tix prices, they look at melissa etheridge tix prices and then cut it
in half...

i'm sure i'll remember some more things later...

wait, since i just finished reading all the other mhc posts, i think i'll
add my thoughts on the security at the show. as someone who has worked
concert security in the five college area as well as other areas...it was
unsafe, unorganized, poorly executed and they had no backbone...but i think
these statements have already been stated...and those of you who were ear
me throughout the day know exactly how inadequate security was!!!

well, happy emily day to everyone!!

jen

did anyone get the south by southwest broadcast on tape this afternoon?
it was with amy and russell carter. if so, and if you're willing to
trade it, will you contact me? thanks!

margaret

you freak out because emily has the same over-alls as you do...(:

(big smith, in case anyone cares)

now in celebration of emily day, everyone run out to the nearest wal-mart,
purchase a pair of big smiths and wear 'em with your docs and say "thanks
y'all" to everyone you see!

happy day,
jennie

andrew- wish you had two.... if i could get two i would be able to go....
i'll only be able to check mail til about 2pm tomorrow (friday) so if
anyone can come up with two for hofstra, please send a message to ze list!
peace and two guitars..... jill
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to: indigo-girls
subject: re: hofstra
date: wednesday, march 12, 1997 11:48pm

i have one extra ticket that i purchased from ticketmaster....paid about 28
for it...

would consider trading it for some quality ig boots... or cash i guess...let
me know soon so we can arrange something....

my preference is dealing with someone from lower fairfield county ct..so the
exchange is easier...

i live in stamford.....

thanks

andrew

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q: what are 4 great reasons to teach?

i teach 8th grade english in little ole lancaster, pa (ala the movie
'witness' fame). much to my happy discovery, scholastic is sponsoring a lyric
writing contest and featuring ig as the prize!!!! there are 25 second prizes:
an autographed new release cd!!

needless to say, i'm highly encouraging my students to participate (contest
is open to 6-12 graders)...i received a promo tape that contains: galileo,
kid fears, ctf, virginia w, dead man's hill, hammer and nail, and, from the
new release, cut it out. ig introduces each song and explains how/ why they
wrote it. i plan on doing a poetry/ lyric-writing lesson with my kids next
week :) i'll let you know how it goes!
btw, does anyone have info on lasalle u concert? if so, please email me
privately! thanx :-)~
take care,
cathy

hey there...glad to see that things are back in functioning order...flames
and all...let's stop it!

as for the concert...thanks to sbm and margaret and...for the updates.
when the time for graduation comes, remember those of us overseas (even
further than the uk) who wanna have a taste. we may not see them for
another few years...two shows missed since summer. argh....

i am going to have to take a trip when i return to the states in july...to
wherever to see them. this list is making me sooooooo sad...alls i got is
cds and boots.

crying herself to work...
sara

(sorry to be so silly)

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hi, all! =)
      no time... my computer's been down, so i couldn't send out the message
to my tape loop... we were supposed to send the next round of tapes on the
10th (which i did) but i couldn't send out the message to the rest of the
loop, so i hope you guys realised that.  otherwise, just send them out as
soon as you can.  deb, i'll send that list to you later tonight.  atlantans,
michelle malone is plying at eddie's attic tonight.  be there! =)  i'll be at
the 7:00 show.  stripey sweater and white overalls. =)  see you there! =)
peace, love, and happiness, sarah

hey guys-

i posted a few days about a ticket for my sister. we are too late to get them
from ticketmaster, they wont get here in time. does anyone know if the show
is sold out yet? do you think she'll get a ticket at the door? what are her
chances?  i just don't want to see her get stuck outside, she is my "baby
sister"!! please let me know!!!!  thank you
                  love and indigo,
                             kim

i distinctly hear "i called you up today to breach my sorrow" plus it
rhymes with "reach" tomorrow.

"carry me over the line to you" is then, in part, repeated in the
chorus...carry me away, under the water, over the line, except for the last
line which she changes to "into your mind".

whadyathink?

resa

i was wondering if any one recognizes these song lyrics. if so, who sings
this song? it is incredible and it has been bothering me for a really long
time:

only you

        looking from a window above it's like a story of love...
        can you hear me?  i came back only yesterday, you're
        moving farther away, want you near me...

chorus

        all i needed was the love you gave
        all i needed for another day,
        and all i ever knew...only you.

        sometimes when i think of your name and its only a game and i need you.
        i listen to the words that you say its getting harder to stay
        when i need you.

repeat chorus

interlude

        this is gonna take a long time and i wonder what's mine
        i can't take no more.
        i wonder if you'll understand its just a touch of your hand
        behind a closed door.

and all i ever knew...only you.

thanks so much,
julie

i know this is wasting bandwidth but i thought this was a nice sentiment
that the girls would appreciate as well as many of us, and our list is the
fastest way i know to spread the message throughout the world. sorry if
y'all have seen this already.

:) marianne

~o~
-=|=- countdown 22 days to *eugene*
/_\
((

>one day in peace, january 1, 2000.
>this is a 24-hour concept where no guns are fired anywhere on earth..
>including on television.  what if, for 24 hours, whosoever happens to be
>at war on december 31st, 1999, agrees that for one whole day no guns
>would be fired?  the silence would be golden.
>
>and what if the television programmers of the world agreed to not air
>any programming with a violent content?  (it would probably be easier to get
>warring nations to stop firing than it would be to get the world's
>television programmers to not air violent programming.)
>
>at present, this one day in peace concept is beginning to get further
>circulation.  on april 6, 1997, it will be 1000 days until january 1,
>2000.
>
>this is a thought-wave campaign.  which is to say, the more people who
>grasp this thought, the more it comes into reality..
>
>one day in peace, january 1, 2000..pass it on..expect a miracle.

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disclaimer: i had to "interpret" some of these, so don't be surprised if
some words are wrong!

shed your skin
an amy song, with ulali
(mount holyoke college, 3/12/97)

what more than fifteen
you are seventeen
it's a trigger of venom this
you're growin' longer
you're growin' stronger
so shed your skin baby
now shed this

come on over now
come on over babe
tell me this
hold me hold me
i don't know what it is
come on over now
let's call it the both of us sometime
i don't know what it is
come on over now

hey hold me, control me,
some power controls me
you force it, i force it
can't free it, so be it

i speak in many tongues
am handled by you
i got religion now look at it
the days grow longer as we grow stronger
so shed your skin baby
let it rip

come on now
come on over babe
tell me this
hold me, hold me
i don't know that is
come on over child
let's call it the both of us sometime
i don't know what it is
come on over now

hey hold me, control me,
some power controls me
you force it, i force it
we breed it, so be it
just be it, just be it

i don't where to find you
but i'm a little too late too soon
now i look in the doubt and fire,
spirits i abused in you
in you

jam

i got my hangman
i got my lawyer
i got the celebration too
my flesh is strong
my spirit stronger
so shed your skin baby
let it through

come on over now
come on over babe
tell me this
hold me, hold me
i don't know that is
come on over child
let's call it the both of us sometime
i don't know what it is
come on over now

hey hold me, control me,
some power controls me
you force it, i force it
we breed it, so be it
hey hold it
so show me
some power controls me

come on over baby

--
amy's commentary: we took like nine tracks of this song and butchered
them together, so they [i.e., ulali] don't really know what it sounds
like.

disclaimer: i had to "interpret" some of these words, so don't be
surprised if some of them are wrong!

scooter boys
an amy song
(mount holyoke college, 3/12/97)

[spoken]
scooter boys and argentinians
europe shed the blood of the indians
here i sit in the land of plenty
crying about my own virginity

[sung]
hey blueblood you're nothing new
you see i come from privilege too
a chapter in the book on the americas
and you're just another colonial terrorist

scooter boys and argentinians
europe shed the blood of the indians
here i sit in the land of plenty
crying about my own virginity

[lots of yeahs]
[jam]

way down south where the maya reign
the pottery and poetry in his grave
he said we're stealing from the best to feed the poor
well, make me poor

scooter boys and argentinians
europe shed the blood of the indians
here i sit in the land of plenty
crying about my own virginity

[more yeahs]
[jam]

----
emily's commentary: i love that song!

on thu, 13 mar 1997, margaret a. clayton wrote:

> say which ones.) he said that ig will be playing on several tours this
> summer--lilith and shed, i believe (not sure about the last name.) he

lilith fair---- see http://www.lilithfair.com for more info. it's an
all-women tour organized by sarah mclachlan.

> you can tell she means it. as an aside, wouldn't it suck to be cooper
> now? i would just die if my ex- was singing a song like this about me,
> nevermind the fact that the ex- is amy ray and she's singing it to
> thousands of people at a time, many of who know it's about you.

i thought about that myself....

> *best line of the evening*
> russel carter "amy and emily turned down smith for mount holyoke."
> yeah, baby!!!!! woo-hoo. that one's goin' in the mhc yearbook.

<grumble> i don't blame them though. the acoustics in jmg suck....

> ps-i'm not trading the boot until i graduate (may 25, 1997--woo hoo!)

i talked to a guy on the bus back to smith who got a soundboard dat, who
will hopefully email me.... <crossing fingers>

+o-renee landrum, smith college, northampton ma---slandrum@sophia.smith.edu-o+
"don't resent your struggles; struggle is a victory. through struggle,
change occurs, and through change, liberation occurs." -aishah shahidah simmons
+o------------------------------------------http://cs.smith.edu/~slandrum---o+

there's just no way i can get the lyrics to burn all the letters. ulali
does backup vocals, and they are too loud of the boot for me to make out
a&e clearly. i will try after hofstra--sorry!

one good line: they cannot read what they cannot see

toodles and indigo,
margaret

i came across this picture on a web page somewhere of ig. amy and emily
are on a dock/pier/whatchamacallit and amy's dangling her foot in the
water with the other propped up on the dock...anybody know where it is?
i've been linking to everweb page from geocites.com to
wherethefurkisit.com and i can't find it...any help is much
appreciated....
-sal

forgive me if someone already posted this (i haven't read the whole digest
yet) but i believe the use of "411" comes from the number you dial for local
information (this may not be in all parts of the country i think).

--krista

hi, i saw a really nice post about what life means on here about a week ago.
could someone please email it to me privately?

thanks

>
> tell you what margaret just for you ill start flaming eveyr single person
> that remotely pisses me off just like you so dont make any non ig post no
> posts abotu no fear or melissa ethridge or ani or anyone else since this
> is a ig list and not them and make sure all sig are 4 lines or less as per
> netiquettte then of course we will all have to have ohnly one writing
> style since everyone is suppose to be like everyone else now then your a
> captian on the list police?
>
beige. i think i'll paint the ceiling beige.
kirsten

--
+kirsten chevalier-kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu-often in error, never in doubt-+
| "love is an exploding cigar which we willingly smoke."--lynda barry |
+-http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/---------my other car is a cdr-----+

i used to snicker when i read about people's "indigo dreams". well,
last night i actually had one myself - or to be more accurate i
had an emily dream. i guess that means theres no hope for me now!

it was very strange and as is usually the case with me i can only
remember parts. here's what i can remember:

i am with my sister-in-law and we are in this big old,
victorian house and we are loading a truck with a
a bunch of antique furniture and stuff like that. and who should
walk into the room but emily & to my utter shock - its her house!!
she asks me what we are going to do with the stuff that we don't
sell and i tell her we are going to donate it to the church. my
mind races after this and i want to say something else, anything,
but she just smiles sweetly, says thank you and leaves the room.

then we leave and on the way out the door i see bunch of cd's on the
floor in the hallway right near the door. i look closer and its
the sots cd! i know i shouldn't but i can't resist the overwhelming
urge and i snatch one up and quickly leave! as we drive away i'm
in shock and feel incredibly guilty about stealing a cd from emily!!

thats it. i guess thats what i get - i'm learning to play fare thee
well on the guitar and right before i went to sleep i was attempting
to play along with emily on so cd. and earlier i had read my daughter
this silly book she got from the library called "mary jean the yard
sale queen". couple all that with my late night binge snack of ice
cream, beer and cheese & crackers and there you have it!!

thanks for letting me ramble.

jerry d.

alright, that's it!!!!!! i've had it!!!!!!
(banging hammer on a bell and blowing whistle frantically)

if you two (namely mark anthony and margaret) can't work your differences
out,

please, for the love of indigo, do it privately!!!!!!!

do you have any idea how sick i am of this????????

mark, i could care less how your posts are formatted.

everyone else, why in hell does it matter??????

okay, i'm done venting....i think.

dawn
(counting to 10....1...2...3....4.......ah, screw it)

i had a really wierd day today
some kid stabbed himself at school today....he is alright, but everyone is
alittle shook-up. anyway ive just been in a wierd pensive mood.......
the whole school was quiet all day...it was really strange....its a small
catholic school and these things dont ever happen......whew.....keep this
guy in your thoughts please.

i just entered the indigo girls lyric contest and was wondering if anyone
else on the list did....if there are any other youngsters who would like to
trade lyrics i'd like to get some input on mine and i would love to read
others :)

who was it the other day who was talking about the anti-alcohol petition at
her/his school....i am really interested in that and i accidentally deleted
(whoops!) so if you could puhleez contact me....sorry i cant remember your name.

sorry for taking up so much space with random material

megan

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(* megon

this is a late thank you to amy and emily for allowing me to interpret
(sign language) at their concert in las cruces, nm in august of '96.

thanks,
alma

the e-mail address from the previous message was incorrect.

well, thanks again and if you ever need is sign language interpreter at
one of your concerts in the texas or new mexico area just let me know.

again,
alma

scott eastman said
> ummm.
>
> is it just me or did no one else get a loop tape. was i dreaming the
> whole thing?

i haven't seen one yet, either, although i sent one out three weeks ago.
we must be in the same dream.

tom

---
tomcat ____     i thought i'd seen someone who seemed at last
       \ _/__   to know the truth
        \\  /   i was mistaken
          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

for everyone in the dc area today i was listening to the radio and they said
in support of their upcoming album the indigo girls will play a promotional
show at the birchmere in alexandria va (on 1200 curfews, the "quiet
listening" club they took by storm with i don't wanna know) anyways. i heard
the only way to get tickets is you have to win them from whfs... i have been
harassing all day, but i have still been denied, and told to call at the
appropriate time. just thought i'd pass that on....

peace
sasha

>i was wondering if any one recognizes these song lyrics.   if so, who sings
>this song?  it is incredible and it has been bothering me for a really long
>time:
>                                                only you
>
>        looking from a window above it's like a story of love...

that would be "only you" by yaz (aka yazoo in the uk). alison moyet was the
lead singer, i recommend 100% her compilation cd "singles" -- woohoo lotsa
good music on that, including this song. :)

kristina

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
      i come to you                                andrade@az.com
    with strange fire                       http://www.az.com/~andrade
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------

on thu, 13 mar 1997, julie f. goldblatt wrote:

> i was wondering if any one recognizes these song lyrics.   if so, who sings
> this song?
>
>                                                 only you
>
>         looking from a window above it's like a story of love...

yaz. (alison moyet & vince clarke) takin me back to the 80s....

kt
 o
 #==[o)
 <<

well, my friend margo took some digital pictures at the mhc show last
night.  i had high hopes for them, but, frankly, i think they suck.  i put
some of them on the web, though, in case you are desperate for a
photographic ig fix, or in case you really want to see if amy's hair is
long of short or if emily's lost the 1982 southern dyke cut (she hasn't,
sorry).  anyhow, now that i've dissed them significantly, i should also
tell you that i have high standards so they might not be that bad to other
people (but i doubt it).  ok, i will shup up now.  they are at:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~maclayto/ig/mhc/

also, check out my home page while you are there:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~maclayto/

thanks for letting me plug.
margaret

don't appologize for expressing what others are fealing on this list.
it takes a lot of courage to tell people on this list to grow up.
expect some negative feelings and responses. some people on this list
seem to live by two things, and those alone: this list and that they are
the almighty one on the mountain that we all can go on a quest to fine
and feast on their wonderful knowlege.

on thu, 13 mar 1997, dawn kivisto
wrote:

> alright, that's it!!!!!! i've had it!!!!!!
> (banging hammer on a bell and blowing whistle frantically)
>
> if you two (namely mark anthony and margaret) can't work your differences
> out,
>
> please, for the love of indigo, do it privately!!!!!!!
>
> do you have any idea how sick i am of this????????
>
> mark, i could care less how your posts are formatted.
>
> everyone else, why in hell does it matter??????
>
>
> okay, i'm done venting....i think.
>
> dawn
> (counting to 10....1...2...3....4.......ah, screw it)
>
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hey everyone,

        i was just wondering if anyone on the list was going to the ani
difranco concert tommorrow, at albany.  a few of my friends and i are
going and it would be cool to meet some of you guys.  let me know....

jonny
--
 <><><><><><><><><><><><>
 jonny wu
 wuman@warwick.net
 a+e=ig
 <><><><><><><><><><><><>

heh. just kidding. you know, i thought about this, and my first reaction was
"why should we have to put up with annoying posts, whether they are poorly
written, silly, or just plain mean?" but then i considered it from the other
direction and thought "what right do we have to restrict other people's speech
?"

so, to me there is one solution.  just skip the stuff you don't like or are not
interested in (for me that would be melissa etheridge posts -ack- now watch me
get some major flamage. :)  ).  now i get digest and i can just push f8 to
skip to next post.  but i know it's easier to delete an annoying post than to
respond to it.

so, erm, in the cause of general peace and loviness, that's my solution. skip
it.

your friendly neighborhood newbie, me.
(chris mccormick, that is)

salutations. just noticed that one of the new songs is titled "leeds."

well, i went to school in leeds in 94 and saw them in concert, and i think it
would be really cool if they were right about a place i could directly relate
to. so my question is, could anyone send me (or the list) the lyrics? as
long as it's not about the annoying guy who kept requesting "jonas and ezekial
," then i'd love to see 'em....

indigo fan and juggler extraordinaire (or at least mediocre)
chris

"you're mocking me, aren't you?" -buzz lightyear

<< buuuuut the 17th in a thursday. how can they do saturday night live on a
thursday?!
>>
easy indigo majik
@#$^&#@^%(*#(
actually i think that that is going to be a rehearsel day for that upcoming
sat. i know the article was not clear and i was blindly typing i was a bit
wierded out too when i came across it when i already posted it....
sorry for the confusion or glad to help you out if you liked to be confused
either way the igs are going to be playing that sat the 19th i believe okie
diggidy doke
kyle

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attention all personnel:

if anyone is interested in a pre-hofstra list meeting, a few of us, but
hopefully more (yes, this means you jen :) will be meeting at the fridays
restaurant in westbury- it's about 10 minutes or less from hofstra.  our eta
is probably going to be about 3:30 pm, then we'll caravan to hempstead.  if
you're interested and need directions email me, or just show up.  if you
don't i'll have to open up a can of whoop-ass ;)

here's the address & phone # of fridays: 829 merrick ave., westbury
516-832-8320

look for my little red phish-mobile in the parking lot!

hope to see you there,
sheri :)

'...where is bart anyway? his dinner is getting all cold and eaten' - homer
simpson

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
_ _----_ o |...when you learn
{ ~\_/ o \ o o |to love yourself
{ ~ _ ] < o |you will dissolve
{_~/ \_ _/ |all the stones
 \/-- |that are cast...
seaphish@aol.com | -amy ray
seallen@sprintmail.com
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on thu, 13 mar 1997, mandi martin wrote:

> art.  we would like to keep this a surprise for amy, so if any of you
> talk to the girls between now and then, please do not mention the
> project.  this is just so it will be more profound.
>
okay...one question...how do you know that the girls don't read this
list?? i think that the idea is wonderful, but....hardly easy to keep a
secret!
              but, count me in!
                             s
*******************************************************************************
          if at first you don't fricassee, fry fry a hen
*******************************************************************************

> the girl's will also be participating on a women's tour sometime
this spring/summer...russell said that basically every female artist will be
participating on the tour at one time or another.
>

hi there all,

when i read the post mentioning that ig will be playing the women's tour i
immediately thought of the lilith fair. renee's post reinforced my
assumption. the following quote is from the 'rolling stone' issue 757,
april 3, 1997 (page 27):

        "i am woman. hear me rock.  sarah mclachlan has lined up a venerable
who's who of female talent for her lilith fair festival this summer.  each
show will have a main stage and a "coffehouse" stage, with several acts
apiece.  mclachlan, whose new album is out in june, will appear on all dates
of the 35-city tour, which kicks off july 4, in vancouver, with the
following artists set to appear on a rotating bases:  natalie merchant,
jewel, sheryl crow, joan osborne, suzanne vega, mary chapin carpenter,
emmylou harris, the cardigans, juliana hatfield, lisa loeb, aimee mann and
neneh cherry.  still considering the offer are sinead o'connor  and shawn
colvin.  a percentage of each ticket sale will go to local women's
charities..."

the lilith web site that renee kindly directed our attention to only
mentions four or five confirmed artists at this time so i thought folks
might find the rs article enticing.

have a great night (or whatever it happens to be in your part of the planet),
cathy

on thu, 13 mar 1997, sara mccutchen wrote:

> i have not had any messages for about two hours...just curious if it is the
> list or server...
>
> sara

okay...here we go again, boys and girls. i think this is the tenth post
i've made like this...if the list stops for a few hours...relax!!! it's
not the end of the world! if it is down for more than a few hours, then
send a post to a fellow lister, but don't post to the whole list. i
finally have a decent email account that won't crash if more than ten
files are in it, but other people have crappy school accounts, so please
save your posts for your thoughts and opinions, and not panic attacks
because you didn't get your list today...
                             ever grumpy, sorry! :)
                                      sharoane
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          if at first you don't fricassee, fry fry a hen
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>way down south where the maya reign
>the pottery and poetry in his grave

i always thought this was 'zapata reading poetry in his grave'. and the
reason i bring this up is that i also always wondered if there was a
'zapata' for whom the zapatistas were named. i confess ignorance of the
history down there, but i thought maybe there was significance. anyone know???

:dwayne

djarrell@ix.netcom.com
"cause trouble is just like love -
if it's half the way, it's all i can see" - shawn colvin

howdy y'all!

i got this from the daemon web site. looks like alot of you will have the
pleasure of seeing lift open for the girls next month. how lucky you are!!!

by the way, if amy and emily don't come out to the west coast soon...i gonna
die!
...ah! and no newport? yikes! glad i didn't buy my ticket already.

take care, and thanks to all of you who gave reviews on the mt. holyoke show,
esp. margaret. i really enjoyed the photos!!

bu bye,

jan
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lift

on tour opening for indigo girls
apr 12, 1997
univ. of nh
durham, nh
apr 13, 1997
colby college
waterville, me
apr 15, 1997
penn state univ.
university park,
pa
apr 17, 1997
wheaton college
norton, ma
apr 19, 1997
lasalle university
philadelphia,
pa
apr 20, 1997
american university
washington,
dc

okay okay okay okay, here i go yet again...i haven't posted in months, and
suddenly i find myself posting until i'm blue in the...well, fingers.
there are some things that we all have lost sight of here.
   1) we are all adults...and those of us on the list who are not adults
seem to be handling themselves ten times better than the so-called
grown-ups. i honestly can't see the harm in mark wanting to type the way
he does, but i've been emailing with him since long before the list
started (if you are reading this, i didn't forget about the bootlegs...)
but i do agree that other people have the right to not like it. however,
if you are one of those people, take it off the list and email privately.
mark, too. we don't need to air all of our personal gripes on the list,
okay? please?
    2) there are some subjects that are not appropriate to discuss. amy
and emily both (listen to me talk about them like i know them when in fact
the one time i had a chance to meet them-through mutal friends-i ran like
hell out of terror...what do you say that doesn't sound like a blithering
idiotic fan??) have made it clear in articles and conversations with
friends that it makes them nervous to have people discussing personal
issues about them and i don't blame them. the one thing i can safely say
about their fans is that we are all very loyal, to the point of being
obsessed, and i admit that at times i am that. sometimes obsession leads
to worse things, like stalking and other scary stuff-i'm in no danger of
doing that, thank you very much-so i'd be nervous too. so, let's really
try to not discuss their current lovers, places of residence, and stuff
like that. put yourselves in their shoes...they go all out with their
music and put on amazing and incredible shows for us...let them go home
and not take their jobs with them for once...okay?
    3)lastly, this list is not the be-all and end-all to life. i have met
some great people on here and care very much about all of you, but i don't
depend on this list as if my life were at stake. if it ended tomorrow, i
could survive. we need to relax about it and take it a little less
seriously. please?
   i know this is a rant, but it isn't so much to bitch,but rather to be
heard in order to make this a little more pleasant. to be honest, it isn't
any fun to read sniping petty posts from folks who seem to have nothing
better to do than waste my time and space fighting with eachother. i don't
mean to censor posts...use all the bandwith you want to express your
opinions, but don't use us to get at individuals, okay?
                                  enough, at last!!!
                                           smoochies,
                                                 sharoane

i'm a newbie looking to start an indigo girls collection. can anyone help me
out please?
paige

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salray was asking about a picture of the girls sitting on a dock while
amy dangled her foot in the water
i know i've seen this picture and i think it may have been in an old
advocate article but i can't prove it
does this ring a bell with anyone else?
gynergy

to be what you are is one thing
to be what you want--now that's something else
ferron "sunken city"

http://members.aol.com/gynergy/index.html

judging by some of the comments made on the list recently i will
probably get flamed for trying to help out a great artist that has
opened for the girls, but oh well.

for all of you listees in or around dallas, kris mckay will be doing a
show at borders (preston and royal) on friday, march 28 at 7 pm. it is
a full set and she will be signing cd's after the show. i think it is a
free show, but i'm not 100% positive on that.

anyway, flame if you must, just passing on info.

love,
mandi

hey y'all,

about the donation for amy's birthday, greta is able to take foreign
currancy and then exchange it, so you can be a part of this too! just
send your donations to the address in my other post (or write me at
"mandi96@airmail.net" and i will send it to you).

anywho, have a great day!

love,
mandi

dear listeeees & kevin:
kevin wrote....
>>>as i read the article i got that uneasy feeling that i get each
time someone tells me they heard a rumor that ig is breaking up.
although i don't know either of them personally, i can assume that a
and e have very differnt personalities, but i think the author made
them seem antagonistic --especially the comment about emily walking
out in a huff after amy refused to accept her last take. maybe my
view of them is naive, maybe i live in a wonderland, but i hope they
get along better than what this article made it
seem.

i also was disappointed that the author appeared to be trying to make
amy look cool and tough by contrasting her with emily, who -- and i
am paraphrasing -- just wants a big pop-song single. sure many emily
songs get a lot more airplay than amy songs, but i wouldn't really
consider any of them pop....

sounds like i'm getting ready for emily day! did anyone else feel
this way or was it just the opposite for most of you?<<<<<<<<<<<

my take is that you are reading an extreme interpretation of the
article. i dont think it was written that es left the control room
"in a huff". it was, however, the 12th take of the song. the article
was on amy, not emily and the focus was on ar.

as to their future, i would throw out the following... if they
enjoyed doing their own indie projects during this last break, maybe
they recorded part of a more folkie album (simultaneously to shaming
the sun) and will release that in such a manner to give themselves
time to do the same next year.

anyone?

melissa

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so, igs will be on snl on may 17th? is that right?

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thank you thank you thank you to donna for the reprint of the amy article.
don't even think about apologizing for the bandwidth, girl, it was a glorious
addition to my day!
that woman is amazing! (i mean amy, but i'm sure donna is amazing in her own
right as well - just look at her choice of postings!)

ok, enough gushing--
krista

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sorry for one more message among the slew, but i couldn't handle it anymore
so i *had* to delete approx. 400 messages (and i still have 80+ in my box).
if anyone had an urgent message for me, i'm sorry but please resend
it :o
someone (was it paige12??) was talking about trading pepperidge farm
goldfish for some boots. please re-contact me!

thanks y'all :)
tony

i also think this picture is from an old advocate article. in fact i think
it was one of the first articles where they talked openly about being gay.
if i remember right they first talked about it in out magazine.

in a message dated 97-03-14 01:14:25 est, gynergy@juno.com writes:

> salray was asking about a picture of the girls sitting on a dock while
>  amy dangled her foot in the water
>  i know i've seen this picture and i think it may have been in an old
>  advocate article but i can't prove it
>  does this ring a bell with anyone else?
>  gynergy

> salray was asking about a picture of the girls sitting on a dock while
> amy dangled her foot in the water
> i know i've seen this picture and i think it may have been in an old
> advocate article but i can't prove it
> does this ring a bell with anyone else?

yeah, after i read the post i was kicking my self trying to figure out
if i had just dreaamed up that picture of if i saw it some where, if i'm
not dreaming than i most certainly saw it on-line. now that i know that
i'm not nuts i going on an indigo hunt...must find picture....

later,
---sara karges

hi...i just subscribed to the list (after being off for over a year now)
and i'm looking for anyone who might be going to the show in davenport.
iowa on the 29th, or anyone who might know the area well...i'm pretty
clueless myself. i'm going to be driving up from st. louis, and any info
would be apreciated. thanks!

sarah

oh yeah...hi tucker! (are you still out there??)

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anyone have the chords to "this train revisited"? i know, i know..seems
like when i post, all i ask for are chords. really, i do have more to my
life than my guitar. well, not much more..*shrug* i think it sounds
something like:

(i'm calling it bsus..not sure what it's called)

bsus: 044400
then slide down to:
esus (?): 022200

but alas, i am *quite* bad at transcribing (the only thing i ever got is
sf, and if you know how to play that, then you know how i shouldn't really
be proud of getting that by ear...*grin*), so if anyone has the real
thing, please e-mail me with it? thanks...

-liz-

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would the kind soul who offered to possibly get me one of wendy's new cds
at her show please email me again.

sorry to waste the bandwidth, but my computer lost the message. (blame it
on the machines)

----derek

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okay to those of you who posted privately and on the list, i did not mean
to waste anyone's time asking if the list was down.

i live in japan.  email is not nearly as efficient or commonplace here as
it is in other areas of the world.  thus, when i do not get any email for
about three hours, i worry.  and being that on a usual day i get a
bazillion list posts, and to get none, i thought global online was messed
up.

i do not live for this list.  i would not die if it were to dissipate
tomorrow.  in fact, it would make my life easier, as i would no longer have
these excrutiating shoulder cramps.  but i do enjoy being a part of it.

those of you who have a problem with what i write...and i have every darn
right to do so...just let your little pinky finger hit the delete key (or
f8 on digest). i did not post a million page letter griping or whining. i
simply made an inquiry.

sorry to be trite, but i was utterly shocked at the responses i got.
sara

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i agree with melissa on the atlanta article. i only wish that some
magazine would highlight emily as well. amy certainly seems to be the
driven one. not that emily isn't driven, but it seems that amy is more
obsessively driven.

that article surprised me a bit.  since we don't know a&e, we have us use
articles like this to find out what makes them tick.  now i know deeper
reasons why amy is so passionate.  watching her on-stage singing and
playing her guitar so passionately.  she is a powerful performer.

but, being the "emily person" that i am, i'd love to get the introspective
aspect of emily as well.  and don't take this as me wanting to delve into
their personal lives.  reading this article made me wonder just how long
a&e will be together.  we are fans of a&e both, although some may prefer
one over the other.  i will drink heavily the day that they split.  so, i
think approved interviews like this one, is a good way to look into their
lives.  see what goes on behind the scenes.

i didn't think that the author made emily look "less then" amy. like
melissa said, it was an article on amy. but i would have liked to have
seen more of an interview from emily on her thoughts on amy.

has anyone seen an interview similar to this one - but for emily?

i know that i do live in a wonderland, in the fact that i think that a&e
get along more then they probably do.  when i saw amy in new orleans, she
was not with emily.  and of all the "emily sightings" i heard about, she
wasn't with amy.  i'm assuming that they don't hang out much - even when
they are together on tour.  but, we can only hope that, like a marriage,
they accept each others strong and weak points and continue to make great
music.

enough rambling. it's 3am and time to sleep.
- jen hall

============================
"and when you're learning to face
the path at your pace very choice
is worth your while." - emily saliers

you know, kyle, this is not a bad idea!!!

lisa

p.s. i suppose great ideas come to those who don't sleep.

on tue, 11 mar 1997 04:04:48 -0500 (est) x20kyle@aol.com writes:
>i say we all get together and paint a cow...and write the word moo
>above
>it!!!
>sorry it is late 4 in the morn....=/
>kyle=)
>

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at 01:38 pm 3/12/97 -0400, joni wrote:
>shake hands, say you're
>sorry, and go outside and play nice! it's a beautious day outside!
bucket + shovel in hand, i say: "here here!!!!"... or is that "hear hear!!!"???
ah well...
it *is* one heck of a nice day here on the bc coast, so it's off to the
beach fer me, my girlfriend n' our dawgs... read y'all later
peace... kim ( goddess o' too much tapping ) :-)
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i feel the need to delurk for a while and tell you of my special day
yesterday 13th march 97. i have been having a pretty rough time both
emotionally and physically for the last 6 months or so. i have had a hard
job coming to terms with certain things that happened in my life but i had
an experience yesterday that changed my life.
i saw a show on oprah about resolutions we make and she talked of a book
called simple abundance and one of the things mentioned in the book, a
journal, to be kept and to include 5 things that you were grateful for each
day. a very simple idea but already it has changed my outlook and i find the
things i took for granted eg, how my dogs react when they see me come home,
being able to see the glorious day outside, etc, i now am truly grateful
for. but wait, the best is yet to come..........
i sat last night and listened to 5 of my fave indigo girls discs on random
play and i had what i can only refer to as a spiritual experience. i am not
a religious person but i felt a clarity to my life and problems i have not
felt before. i really felt what the girls where singing about. during come
together i was crying my eyes out.
my partner experienced a similar feeling of clarity and understanding and
it was for the both of us a truly inspiring and emotional evening. i find
today i am listening to the same discs in a different way. i have always
loved the indigo girls music but something is different in me now.i feel
alive again and ready to get back to the task of living in a real world again.
no other music has ever touched me the same way and i am grateful to the
indigo girls for coming to my aid at a time when i was at a very low ebb.
thats it, sorry for taking up so much room but i had to share with the
people who appreciate the girls music as much as me.
take care,
jen

the day is not starting well...

> also, there will probably <bold>not </bold>be an overseas tour
> this year.

huh?....ohhhhh noooooo....what am i going to do?...

i think i'll shrivel up if i don't see ig play soon...i've been in
this desert for far too long now !

not in a good mood at all...which should please my lab colleagues who
called me a moody old boot yesterday, backing this statement up with
the classic 'no wonder when she listens to all that depressing indigo
girls music'. i feel pity for the un-enlightened...
talk to y'all later
love helene

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sal hands kyle a hefty bag full of punctuation marks!!!...
geez louise....

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oh yeah?? well who made the kissing sound??
:) *lol*
-sal :)

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in a message dated 97-03-11 16:18:08 est, you write:

<< so, here i go.....
i listened many times to the dialog leading up to "thin line" on 1200
curfews, and transcribed it as closely as i possibly could below: >>

wow, and they thought *i* was obsessed. hmmm.

well, i'm still sticking to my guns that it was emily. maybe amy could have
said it, but i think the great e (tee hee) is still a favorite.

ok, i have an idea: the next person to meet one of them says "ahh! i have a
question! who says . . ."

then will we feel idiodic enough? then will we realize how mindless a thread
this was when emily calls security and has you dragged out screaming all the
way

"but it was important to meeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

ehem

maybe i should cut down on the caffine . . .

-elizabeth, who is in a sarcastic mood after waiting 45 minutes to get
on-line

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http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

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just so long as you are painting a cow and not painting on a cow :)
-sal

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look everyone!!! he's learning! *laughs*
kyle, you know i'm only joking.....
-nana bubbles :)

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from: zgrrrl@aol.com
date: wed, 12 mar 1997 00:47:14 -0500 (est)
message-id: <970312004714_1317611257@emout16.mail.aol.com>
to: salray@webtv.net
subject: re: just kiddin'

oh that was good!!!! i'm very proud of that cutting remark!
~ ~ ~ kylie

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i though it said "kyle" and not "kylie"
1200 pardons, mi amiga....
-sal *who is munching on filet of shoe-sole right now*

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"elizabeth m. bolles" said:

>ok, i have an idea: the next person to meet one of them says "ahh!  i
>have a question!  who says . . ."
>then will we feel idiodic enough?  then will we realize how mindless a
>thread this was when emily calls security and has you dragged out

...only if i was caught in a 5' x 6' elevator would i ask them.........=
) i bet they would laugh and then call security....

-liz-

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411 is a number to call for directory assistance...otherwise known as
"information."

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grrrrr ^_~
poor me=3d(
gettin' my virtual bum virtually kicked all over the virtual world
by virtual bubbles
ughhhhh
me bum hurts
=3d=de kyle
present for you....salray
!?.!.?..!..?!!!???? and have some more !!!!!????!!!!!
teehee=3d)
kyle bo' dile
stuck in soc world...burr this stream is cold ^_~

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i hear wheaton being scheduled for april the 16th because ig is going to
do saturday night liveon the the 17th....and the only saturday that is a
17th is in may....i'm 472 kinds of confused right now....anyone care to
clarify?
-sal
(who is scribbling her new song..."472 shades of red")

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forgive them, binky, for they know not what they say....*holds the
sacred purple bunny in front of cybernot and says a bunch of hail yknibs
then sprinkles cybernot with the holy big red*

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okay kyle is my buddy. he is really nice for posting the question many people
found offensive for me, and i feel bad for causing him to get flamed. so i'm
going to say this really quickly. kyle rocks the house!!!!
okay. i'm finished.

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yeah. i remember you wired folks staying up late...if i wasn't stoned, i
wouldn't have slept through it! hahahahaha....what the heck was in that
beer that y'all were drinking anyway??
*makes a bitter beer face*

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ummm...
here's me hoping that the recent flamage of our anthony was because y'all
know he's a year long listee and felt a bit o' teasing was in order.
otherwise i can't imagine why you'd be so nasty as to make fun of someone
who just wanted info about the girls. so he misspelled a few words... whoop
tee dooo! i saw that and figured he was having one of those mornings where
he'd just washed his hands + couldn't do a thing with em:) do we all have to
be supremely intelligent
( not that anthony isn't )+ excellent spellers to be "real list members +
fans"??? nu uh... why alienate a fan?
peace + all thumbs tapping... kim ( sometime goddess )
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        unfortunately i have to temporarily sign off of this mailing list
but i will sign back on when i have more time to read my mail, but right
now, i have too many letters backing up and am not able to keep up.  i still
am interested in concert updates, and would appreciate it if anyone who
hears of any ig concerts or other bands in nc, or any updates on the duke
concert, please keep me informed and updated.  if you get any information,
please just forward it on to me at sallad@mindspring.com       thanks, and
bye, dallas
p.s.  see you all in the future, i promise to sign back on, though i was
mostly a lurker anyways.
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for some reason my fingers keep hitting the wrong buttons and some of my
outgoing mail gets sent to the list...i'll learn not to type so
fast...meanwhile i will go sit in the corner and take my "time out" like
a big girl...sorry folks!
-sal

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i could have sworn i just read a post about the wheaton show that mentioned
that ig was going to play saturday night live on april 17th. i have one
question: isn't april 17th a thursday night? now i'm *really* confused!
i'm surprised they would be on saturday night live to begin with (maybe folks
have seen the light finally:), but if they are going to be on, i'd like
some clarification as to when they're going to be on there. this might
actually make me watch snl again...<g> does anyone have any info on this?

peace,

joan :-d

p.s. - i just looked on my calendar and may 17th is on a saturday...could this
perhaps be the date (if the rumour is true)?

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julianna minotty wrote:
> my question is who says : " there's a lot of love in
> this room"

i always thought it was jerry marotta, amyays he seems to be the only
guy playing anything in the song and the voice sounds rather masculin.
but what do i know...
---sara karges

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>>as i read the article i got that uneasy feeling that i get each time
someone
tells me they heard a rumor that ig is breaking up. >>
hi there. i must have missed that article. can someone please send me a copy
of it?? thank you
- kim

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hello all,

does anyone know what's going on with the wheaton college concert?  i heard
it was 4/17 but people on the list have been saying that it's on 4/16.
also, does anyone know about getting tickets?  do we have to go there or
can we call.  please email me privately.

thanks!

lanie ;)

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first off, i think "the 411" means the latest news, the latest
gossip. i don't know where the original phrase comes from, but i
just remember it being referred to in a couple of television shows.

second, i'd just like to thank donna for posting the ar article from
the atlanta mag. it was interesting to read, although i do think the
writer concentrated on the differences between a and e too much. but
it was still good to read it, since we don't seem to get much indigo
stuff in the uk.

bye y'all,

john.

"oh, these little eartquakes,
here they come again....."

tori amos, little earthquakes

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on thu, 13 mar 1997, jen hall wrote:

> how 'bout the bag pipes. with her passion, i'm sure she could make them
> "sing". plus, she just may be irish - so it would work!

and if she was scottish, it would work even better ;)

mat

sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but it's urgent that

julianna minotty
rbsayre
jendy
nicole yonke

e-mail me asap.

thanks.

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please contact me..i forgot where you told me you put all the tabs!!

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if you are still looking for mhc tix, the smith radio station, wozq
91.9fm, is giving away two pairs to the show. call (413) 585-4977 to
put your name into the drawing.

good luck!

jennie

personal plug - if you're in the area, listen to the folk show (thats me)
on thursday nights from 10-midnight
(:

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> also, there will probably <bold>not </bold>be an overseas tour this
>year.
noooooooo!! tell me this isn't true...! did anyone else manage to get any
info on this??? ::whimper::

>http://www.lilithfair.com/
wow - check this out - looks as if its going to be really cool! such a
tease though - although the site is very pretty it doesn't mention any
dates...seeing as i'm actually going to be in the states for a couple of
weeks in late june/early july then i'm keeping everything crossed that we're
there for an ig or lilith show....

...which brings me to my next point... my girlfriend and i are
actually-finally-at-long-last-about-bloody-time-really-really-really coming
to the states!!!  we'll be in ny for pride, boston, p'town for 4th july and
then *drumroll* atlanta for a few days, during which time we're hoping to
play at the open mic night at eddies...  we've got our plane tickets and are
now sorting out accomodation, so if anyone can recommend anywhere
woman-friendly and cheap to stay in ny, boston or atlanta then i'd be
grateful  :)

happy friday,

seffy

on thu, 13 mar 1997, katherine grant wrote:

>
> > i was wondering if any one recognizes these song lyrics.   if so, who sings
> > this song?
> >
> >                                                 only you
> >
> >         looking from a window above it's like a story of love...
>
>
>  yaz.  (alison moyet & vince clarke)  takin me back to the 80s....

it was actually yazoo.

mat

>
>>  they both said that they used the
>> get-it-in-between-those-two-little-wood-thingy's (trust our girls to
>> be up on the lingo) and-then-flip-it-reallyreallyquick
>>  method.
>
>omigod.  that's exactly what i do!  works every time.  you gotta
>line your pick up in the center of the soundhole, and if you do,
>when you flip your guitar over, it'll fall right out.
>
i played make it easier for my first semester guitar exam song, and right in
the middle, my pick slipped right between the strings, directly into the
hole!  i hate it when that happens!  talk about a way to fail, but
apparently since i kept the tempo the same, they didn't count off. anyway, i
get my pick out like that, too.
jessica

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hey everybody,

i am sorry to interrupt all of the ig talk but i have some shirts that i
would like to offer to you the list members.  i designed an aids awareness
t-shirt for one of the organizations in my school this year.  needless to
say, we over ordered.  i am offering the shirts to the list for 12 dollars
(we sold them in school for 15 dollars), this will include the postage back
to you.  with the money we raise, we are "adopting" an aids patient on long
island.  we will help pay thier bills and help them around the house.  the
shirts are white and come in l or xl.  they are 100% pre-shrunk cotton.  the
front of the shirt has a red aids ribbon on the left breast, and the back has
the following poem in white lettering on a black background:
someday...
the aids crisis will be over.
and when that day has
come and gone
there will be people alive
on this earth-
gay people and strait people,
black people and white people,
men and women-
who will hear that once
there was a terrible disease and
that a brave group of people
stood up and fought, and
in some cases died so that others
might live and be free.
                 - vito russo

if you are interested, please email me privately so i know to hold a shirt
for you. once again i am sorry to bother you about this but it is a worthy
cause to me, and i am sure to many of you. thank you.

mindy hirsch

ps if this letter offended youin anyway, i am sorry, but if you feel the need
to flame me please do it privately so you dont take up the whole lists time!

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****cookie story clipped****

oh nooooooo! here we go again! greg? i think your duties are in order
here :))))) you go!!!!

kira "who is now the proud owner of at least 300 bazillion of the same
stupid cookie recipe"

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i know someone on the show and i haven't heard a thing about ig being in nyc
this week. it's unlikely given all musical acts commit to a week in nyc
with show preparation and rehearsals, etc. if i hear anything, i'll post it.

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hi i need 2 tickets for the hofstra show this sunday and was wondering if
anyone had any extras
please email me if you can help out
thanks
sue

hey y'all~ @:-}
here's another chorus for the closer to nine song...
i guess this means my friend dana enjoyed himself?? :o

>from: dbkirkwood@juno.com (dana b. kirkwood)
>date: tue, 11 mar 1997 16:34:01 est
>
>i went to the doctor, i went to the barroom
>i said i've got a hangover that's bigger than the full moon
>i tried some warm v-8 juice, i tried some ibuprophen
>i tried to get some shut-eye, too much light was in my bedroom
>just one thing left to do, that's have another brew and.....
>start all over again, all over again!

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at 2:52 pm 3/11/97, jessica wrote:
>>
>>> they both said that they used the
>>> get-it-in-between-those-two-little-wood-thingy's (trust our girls to
>>> be up on the lingo) and-then-flip-it-reallyreallyquick
>>> method.

....and those of us who excelled at the game "operation" can use the
gum-on-the-end-of-a-pencil method...but if you touch a string.....

bbbbbuuuuuzzzzzz! you get zapped and somewhere emily's nose lights up red!

tee hee hee...i make me laugh....and so does suzie....and so does
katie...and so does sundarling....you all made me laugh today...thanks, you
cuties! :o)

counting down the days to the igboston badass list party web
page.....coming soon! (little more tooling and she's ready to fly! rest
up those wrists
amy p.!)

g'day mates!

joni :o)

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hey all!

maybe this post is premature, but i want to thank all of the lovely people
who sent me private email regarding my last post (you know, the "who loves
us...").  i guess i wouldn't have been surprised if i had received some
flamage, but the responses have been informative and kind!  you all deserve a
big indigo {{{hug}}}  :-)

i stand corrected: gerard mchugh was not the gentleman who had the
conversation with amy prior to the recording of "thin line" on 1200 curfews.
and wouldn't you know it--i have already deleted and forgotten the name of
the man who was recorded. sorry!

thank you for putting up with me--i'm not worthy! i'm not worthy!
forget meeting amy or emily in an elevator and behaving like a big dork--i
would probably do that just meeting someone on this list!

angela (who can be stuborn at times, and still thinks it's amy!)

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<< from: renee landrum <slandrum@sophia.smith.edu :
lilith fair---- see http://www.lilithfair.com for more info. it's an
all-women tour organized by sarah mclachlan. >>

thanks! i heard about it on the radio and then had no further info!!!

lemme start this out by saying that i taught myself how to play since last
august, so you pro-players out there might know something i haven't gotten to
yet.

why do the songbooks not list all parts of the songs? i.e. specifically both
guitar parts, tabs, and solos? they do for some songs, but for most of them
they don't.

for example, there's no solo for "love will come to you" but one for
"galileo". amy's guitar part is down for "fugitive" but emily's and the
electric part is missing (though i can guess for this particular song it's
relatively simple . . . but still). etc. etc. etc. adam schneider's tabs on
the net also mention that the songbooks have glaring errors in some of the
parts that have been printed.

the only reason i'm asking is because i finally found someone to play and
sing ig songs with (somebody i converted just last week, heh-heh), and since
we're not >that< accomplished, we can't fill in the missing parts ourselves.
some of the tabs/chords that i got off the net include all parts of the
songs (ummm, like "hand me downs", i think), but again, most don't.

why would the songbooks be so incomplete?  i mean, if they're meant to
transcribe what two guitars are doing, or even something integral to a song
like a solo, then why do a half-ass job?  this is extremely frustrating if
you're trying to play, and only half the song is there.  or am i missing
something here in the notation that indicates what i can't find?

it seems, also, that the further back you go, the songbooks become less and
less comprehensive. i realize that this also reflects the evolution of the
girls' sound from the 2 acoustic guitars of _strangefire_ to the electric, 12
string, and piano of _swamp_, but this is pretty much why i've hesitated to
buy anything before _rites_. though i know i'll break down simply because i
have to own all of them.

so. any ideas or, more importantly, suggestions for what to do about this so
my friend and i can play? together? as opposed to the 2 of us just
strumming the same chords.

thanks,
otts

who was stunned, just stunned, at the sound that he and his friend rossalind
made at their very first attempt to sing together. :) (it was "welcome me").
gawd, it was awesome to do that with somebody!

hi y'all.  quick question:  i keep getting old digests.  they show up on my
  account as new mail and i begin reading, only see that i've read it before.
  does this happen to anyone else?  is it common? (i'm a newbie)  or is it more
  likely something on my end?  just wondered.  private responses pleeze.

thanx again, chris

'"hey senorita, that's astute," i said, "why don't we get together and call our
selves an institute?"'
-paul simon

>
> anyone knwo anythign more abotu this tickets still avaialbel how to get
> them ticketmaster knew nothing abotu it
mark honey, maybe they only give ticket information to people who can spell?
:-) kirsten

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>
> hello all!
>
> i am learning irc and i was wondering if there is a channel for ig and
> what server it is on?
> any info for a newbie is appreciated!
>
#indigo-girls on dalnet is pretty busy usually. there used to be a fairly
active #indigo-girls on efnet also, but it seems to be dead, alas. this should
really be in the faq (hint, hint.)
kirsten

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tom jobes wrote:
>
> > is it just me or did no one else get a loop tape. was i dreaming the
> > whole thing?
>
> i haven't seen one yet, either, although i sent one out three weeks ago.
> we must be in the same dream.
>
> tom
>

pinch me!!

scott

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were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that
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hey everyone,

i just found out from someone today who has close connections to the indigo
girls that they will be at either the bottom line or the bitter end (she
couldn't remember which) on 3/19 for a release party for shaming of the sun.
to go you have to be on the list which was for sony personnel and selected
others...this woman is on the list...and going...i'm very, very jealous,
needless to say :> but she said she'd tell me all about it afterwards so
i'll keep eveyone posted. is there anyone on the list lucky enough to be
going to this?

greetings to all in the land of indigo!

well, it has taken me a while to recover from the mhc show, both
physically and emotionally.  comments about the security and crowd:
both sucked!!!  security did nothing about people trying to shove
their way to the front.  i don't know how many times i had to say
to them, if you don't do something about these people pushing to
the front, i will.  and believe me, after getting there at 8am
to hold the fort for the first leg of the line relay, i meant it.
i don't like being mean, but i was not about to let me and my
friends get shoved about and stepped on by these jerks.  after the
show, as russell carter was handing down a set list, which was in
my hands, a crowd of people literally jumped me, five hands tearing
it out of mine, and i got punched in the face by one woman, which
left my glasses mangled and me with a whopping headace.  i have never
be so disgusted by peoples attitudes and lack of respect for people.
the rudness was prevelant throughout ulali, who was incredible!!

igc:

i have never seen amy smile so much, it was great to see them in high
spirits, having fun on stage playing around, telling us stories.
my favorite song of the night, shed your skin.  they totally rocked out!!
i can't wait for the new album.  i feel it is a big departuare from the
other albums, lots of electric guitars, jamming solos and like a good
time rocking theme.  leeds, kind friend and everything in it's own time
seem to be the mellowest songs on this album.  i really like the way they
have taken risks and are not afraid to try new stuff and styles out on
this one.  scooter boys is great too, and i love cara mia.  this cd will
not make it's way out of my cd player for a long time.  chiapas is the
new blood and fire, i almost died!  amy and emily seem to be so much more
exposed and passionate with their new stuff, and they are letting it all
out for us to see.  get to an ig show if you can!!!  don't miss out!!

i hope to hear more updates from other shows! of to hofstra on sunday!

take care and peace!

-deb
(still beaming from being front row at mhc)

>first off, i think "the 411" means the latest news, the latest
>gossip. i don't know where the original phrase comes from, but i
>just remember it being referred to in a couple of television shows.
>

411 comes from the number for information. so getting the 411 is getting
the information. god, i am hip. ;-)

corinne

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is anyone else on this list getting double...triples os the same messages
from the past two days????

h e l p ! ! ! ! ! the server has satan in it!!!!!

--sue

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand          o /
i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned      /~|~
i said remember this as how it should be..."        //
                                -- amy ray           \\

sometimes i have a hyper-finger when it comes to the delete key, and i
inadvertently deleted the amy article. if anyone still has that, would
you kindly re-post it, as i would really love to read it.

thanks in advance.

melissa

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ok, who else thinks that for the april 30th episode of "ellen" (her 'coming
out' episode), the indigo girls should do the opening number singing "it's
allright:"

"...you hate me 'cuz i'm different, you hate me 'cuz i'm gay.....but it's
allright...."

then, indigo girls, melissa etheridge, k.d. lang, and sophie b. (trouble)
hawkins can all do a number at the end of the show with ellen much like the
bonnie raitt, aaron neville, sheryl crow episode....

just a thought.......happy day everyone!

(ohmigawd...i'm turning into sundara...ahhhhhhhhhhh!! help! is there a
12-step program for this condition? ;o)

joni :o)

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i have an extra ticket to the sold out show april 13th at the wadsworth
gymnasium here at colby college. interested email me at
manichol@colby.edu. i will sell it for a good offer.

mark

hey, y'all.

        now i'm totally bummed.  i was looking forward to seing ig at
newport this summer and now i hear that they won't be there :-(  i thought
my friends and i were going to have a wonderful repeat trip, but i guess
not.  i was kind of counting on them being there because apparently, that's
just about as close to my area as they're going to get.  somebody tell me
it's just a rumor, say it ain't so.  anyway, does anyone know if they're
going to be near or anywhere in jersey?  i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
        i couldn't believe my ears- i heard a disco version of "closer to
fine" on the radio.  yuck!!!  at first, i thought that two stations were
just crossing, but no, it was disco ig.  has anyone else out there heard
it?
        ani tonight- wohoo!!!  orchestra seats.  let's just say i'm a
little psyched.  it'll be my third ani show and i'm taking three ani
"virgins" and another ani veteran with me.  it should be an interesting
evening.
        well, that's about it. hope all is well in indigoland.

take care and be happy,

sarah :-)

                      "remember everything i told you
                       keep it in your heart like a stone
                       and when the wind that blows 'round
                                and back again
                       what was once your pain will be your
                                home."  -indigo girls
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good god almighty, is there some way to make the list stop sending out
dead letter office messages? i mean, there's been some nastiness on this
list of late and i ain't got much desire to live through debates about
spelling and punctuation twice.

anyone?

thanks, peace, etc.
bill

a friend of mine sent this to me and i thought it would be of interest to
the list.

betsy

-------------------------------
>if we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely
>100 people, with all existing human ratios remaining the same, it would
>look like this:
>
>there would be 57 asians, 21 europeans, 14 from the western hemisphere
>(north and south) and 8 africans.
>
>51 would be female; 49 would be male
>
>70 would be non-white; 30 white.
>
>70 would be non-christian; 30 christian.
>
>50% of the entire world's wealth would be in the hands of only 6
>people and all 6 would be citizens of the united states.
>
>80 would live in substandard housing.
>
>70 would be unable to read.
>
>50 would suffer from malnutrition.
>
>1 would be near death , 1 would be near birth
>
>only 1 would have a college education.
>
>no one would own a computer
>
>when one considers our world from such an incredibly compressed
>perspective, the need for both tolerance and understanding becomes
>glaringly apparent........
>

< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
and it's alright if i feel afraid
my plans in pieces, my plans mislaid
it's the will of the way
the will of the way
the will of the only way that could have brought me here today
and it's alright.

e. saliers
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >

>on wed, 12 mar 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:
>> i've talked to many, many people on this list who are fed up with your posts.
>> i think that if the consensus on a list is that you are unwelcome, you should
>> think about doing something about that.
>> kirsten

at 12:47 pm 3/12/97, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>gee how nice for you that you became list police
>isnt it nice that you run this list

ok, people, listen up please:

kristen, honny, please don't speak for others on the list...i'm sure you
wouldn't want anyone speaking for you, 'cuz i know i wouldn't.

anthony, honny, calm down. take a deep breath and a step back....i don't
want you to leave the list and you shouldn't unless you want to.

as far as i'm concerned, this is a free list and everyone, yes, everyone is
welcome (including the two of you).  we all want to be able to speak our
minds, and this list is a great place for that.  everyone should feel that
they can voice their opinion, but we must all do it in an informative,
constructive, and positive way.  you won't always agree with what everyone
says, and that's ok.  if you have a problem with someones post, please feel
free to tell them so contructively and personally...this means offline.
you will make your point more effectively if you do it in a nice
way....piss people off and you're already putting them on the defensive,
which only enflames the situation.  there's no need for it here.  none
whatsoever.  nada.  not at all.

take it from me, 'cuz i speak from experience, really *great* things can
come out of a little friendly conversation on this list!

now kirsten and anthony.... please you two....shake hands, say you're
sorry, and go outside and play nice! it's a beautious day outside!

joni :o)

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indigo girls rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

on thu, 13 mar 1997, dragonman wrote:

> >way down south where the maya reign
> >the pottery and poetry in his grave
>
> i always thought this was 'zapata reading poetry in his grave'.

i don't know if there's a connection with the zapatistas (though i would
supposed there'd almost have to be), but, after listening to the song
again, i'll go with dwayne's guess on the lyrics. especially since mine
didn't make any sense. "...pata readin'" sounds a lot like "pottery 'n."

good call, dwayne!!

margaret

maybe if we put the word 'new' in the subject line of our posts it'll be
easier to weed out the old mail. it seems that it's not just affecting those
with the digest version. all i know is it was bad enough reading these once,
but twice is making me loony toons.
sheri :)

i'm planning a late trip to the mt.holyoke show.  i'm at brown university in
providence, ri.  we need directions!  can anyone help us?  please send a
personal mess.  thank you!!   ali
_________________________________________________________________________
brown women's ice hockey                                   ali kenney
fire@brown.edu                                              box 1196
                                                         brown university
"this world falls on me with dreams of immortality.       providence,ri
everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me."      02912
              :-:                               -amy ray
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as i have only been on the list since december i was wonder if the
problems i have been having with it in the last few days are just normal
occurrences. for about half a day i got no messages, now i am getting
repeats.

for any of you anal retentive, super-ego dominated, bastards that wish to
flame me for asking a perfectly sensible question be ready for me to
flame back. when you can write a two page letter telling people on the
list what you believe they should and should not post, don't you really
have to ask yourself what kind of life you have? now before i become
what i despise i will stop.

thank you, and have a nice day.

gee how nice for you that you became list police
isnt it nice that you run this list i guess since its alot of folks
consensus that gay folks should be killed (nnot mine of course otherwise i
wouldnt have been in the bar that was bombed) then they sh ould be huh for
somoene who supposedly love the girls you miss the point of most of their
songs which is be who you are so when you see emilyt next time and she
breaks into a stream of concious during chicken man i wanna be there when
u tell her to shut up cause she isnt speaking the proper way your not the
list police you dont run the list youir just a listee just like me to
quote one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies
you have no power here begone before someone drops a house on you to
and as for several folks u talked to lets see i had 4 letters of bitch
which made me write my last post and lets see since that ive recived 10
notes saying i write just fine guess your just outvoted
hugs anthony van pyre

on wed, 12 mar 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> > as i said if you dont liek them dont read them
> i've talked to many, many people on this list who are fed up with your posts.
> i think that if the consensus on a list is that you are unwelcome, you should
> think about doing something about that.
> kirsten
>
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i would have to venture only a guess and say 5/17. they are not going to
play on one of the highest rated shows without some sort of single to
promote. as for rehearsals, they are always on sat. afternoons and they let
in a great deal of the public for the rehearsal. the show is harder to get
tixs for (i will try and dig up info on this, i do know a person @ nbc, but
i doubt that will help me. now if they play on msnbc, that would be another
story altogether..)

there might be info on the web on how to get tixs

mike r.

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in a message dated 97-03-13 22:08:25 est, tom cat writes:

<< scott eastman said
> ummm.
>
> is it just me or did no one else get a loop tape. was i dreaming the
> whole thing?

i haven't seen one yet, either, although i sent one out three weeks ago.
we must be in the same dream.

tom >>

wow. i think i'm trappe in this dream, too. i wonder if there are pills for
this . . . ?

-elizabeth

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in a message dated 97-03-13 21:46:21 est, you write:

<< well,
last night i actually had one myself - or to be more accurate i
had an emily dream. >>

of course it was an emily dream! it was emily day!!!! yey!

i celebrated by wearing my overalls and reading up to chap 3 in the voyage
out by vw. then i got tired and slept from about 3:30 to 8. hmmm . . . so
much for emily day . . .

-elizabeth, who is already preparing for the emily millenium, which, yes,
will begin jan 1st 2001!!!!!

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the tickets for the grand rapids show can only be bought from the calvin
college box office. there should still be some left.

on wed, 12 mar 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:

> >
> > anyone knwo anythign more abotu this tickets still avaialbel how to get
> > them ticketmaster knew nothing abotu it
> mark honey, maybe they only give ticket information to people who can spell?
> :-) kirsten
>
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was watching tales of the city on bravo tonight, and i happened to notice
that the credits at the end listed: original music, john keane...anyone
know if this is the jk connected to the igs? just curious...(oh, and if
anyone knows if bravo has plans to put out more of the totc than pbs
aired could they mail me privately with details (times, cast changes,
etc...)

peace,
bill

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hello everyone !!!!

mellie here (finally) ... i'm home now recuperating from my surgery on
tuesday. i want to thank any and all of my fellow ig listers who played
galileo as i requested and sent good ig vibes my way.  the surgery (although
done at 7 p.m. instaead of 8 a.m. as oruginally scheduled) went very well.  i
lost less of my foot than we thought and for that i am very happy. i hope to
be walking on my own two feet again sometime in april or may. all in all it
looks like this time this was a success!!!
thanks again to all of you who sent me messages and for your good thoughts
and prayers  ......   bless you all !!!!
now i'm going to listen too all my ig cds and bask in their beauty.

mellie

mellie2@aol.com

where did you hear that? it musn't be true!!! if that were the case i might
be very distressed....in my oppinion, they probably are playing... it's sort
of a tradition....i think you can probably count on them playing... if i find
out otherwise... i will be sure to tell y'all. love, maryteresa

joan m. cyr wrote:
>
> ok, who else thinks that for the april 30th episode of "ellen" (her 'coming
> out' episode), the indigo girls should do the opening number singing "it's
> allright:"
>
> "...you hate me 'cuz i'm different, you hate me 'cuz i'm gay.....but it's
> allright...."
>
> then, indigo girls, melissa etheridge, k.d. lang, and sophie b. (trouble)
> hawkins can all do a number at the end of the show with ellen much like the
> bonnie raitt, aaron neville, sheryl crow episode....
>

that would be fun!!!!!!!!

:):)
i can't wait to see what they do....
:)
selena

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on wed, 12 mar 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

don't reply to this. it's a 'spew' ie. a message re-issued because the
server's faulty. if you get any other message dated to wednesday 12th,
delete it straight away.

mat

> gee how nice for you that you became list police
> isnt it nice that you run this list i guess since its alot of folks
> consensus that gay folks should be killed (nnot mine of course otherwise i
> wouldnt have been in the bar that was bombed) then they sh ould be huh for
> somoene who supposedly love the girls you miss the point of most of their
> songs which is be who you are so when you see emilyt next time and she
> breaks into a stream of concious during chicken man i wanna be there when
> u tell her to shut up cause she isnt speaking the proper way your not the
> list police you dont run the list youir just a listee just like me to
> quote one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies
> you have no power here begone before someone drops a house on you to
> and as for several folks u talked to  lets see i had 4 letters of bitch
> which made me write my last post and lets see since that ive recived 10
> notes saying i write just fine  guess your just outvoted
> hugs anthony van pyre
>
> on wed, 12 mar 1997, kirsten chevalier wrote:
>
> > > as i said if you dont liek them dont read them
> > i've talked to many, many people on this list who are fed up with your posts.
> > i think that if the consensus on a list is that you are unwelcome, you should
> > think about doing something about that.
> > kirsten
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on thu, 13 mar 1997, tracy fears wrote:

> i came across this picture on a web page somewhere of ig. amy and emily
> are on a dock/pier/whatchamacallit and amy's dangling her foot in the
> water with the other propped up on the dock...anybody know where it is?

is she wearing those big ole black boots? cos if she is...it's from a
magazine article...and for the life of me i can't remember which one but
if you check the mag archives at your library i'm sure you'll find it.
i know, i know, big help irving here..but i do remember the picture as
clear as day...i'd say between '91 and '93. peace, kim n.v.

hi julie, the title is correct and it is sung by a group now defunct
called yaz. the lead singer is alison moyet. peace, kim n.v.

on thu, 13 mar 1997, julie f. goldblatt wrote:

> i was wondering if any one recognizes these song lyrics.   if so, who sings
> this song?  it is incredible and it has been bothering me for a really long
> time:
>
>
>                                                 only you
>
>         looking from a window above it's like a story of love...
>         can you hear me?  i came back only yesterday, you're
>         moving farther away, want you near me...
>
>                                                 chorus
>
>         all i needed was the love you gave
>         all i needed for another day,
>         and all i ever knew...only you.
>
>         sometimes when i think of your name and its only a game and i need you.
>         i listen to the words that you say its getting harder to stay
>         when i need you.
>
>                                         repeat chorus
>
>                                         interlude
>
>         this is gonna take a long time and i wonder what's mine
>         i can't take no more.
>         i wonder if you'll understand its just a touch of your hand
>         behind a closed door.
>
>                 and all i ever knew...only you.
>
> thanks so much,
> julie
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on wed, 12 mar 1997, salam princess of beer wrote:

> hey y'all...
> i'm on temporary list sabbatical while i'm studying over here in london
> (as opposed to my usual north carolina), but i just wanted to know the
> 411 on the new album...  i heard march, i heard april...  i have no idea
> when its really being released...  is the release date going to be
> different in the uk than in the us?  anyone had any freaky amy-em dreams
> lately?  sorry, to say, i haven't...  hope everyone is well and prospering!
> l,
> mandy
> (warra5c0@numen.elon.edu)

the date which epic has been giving is 29th april, but someone has
recently posted to the ig newsgroup saying that it has been put back yet
again. the epic web site seems to have moved, and the new address will
be (i don't know if it's set up yet) http://www.epiccenter.com/ .

incidentally, where does this expression "the 411" come from? there was
an album out by mary j blige (no i haven't got it, can't stand that kind
of music, but i just thought it was a weird title) called "what's the
411?", and this is only the second time i've heard the expression. why
411?

mat

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in a message dated 97-03-11 23:31:30 est, kevin writes:

<< maybe my view of them is naive, maybe i live in a
wonderland, but i hope they get along better than what this article made it
seem. >>

just keep in mind that in some (most ?) cases journalism has more
to do with the writer's perception and focus than reality.

love,
miss binky
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john bond wrote:
>
> first off, i think "the 411" means the latest news, the latest
> gossip. i don't know where the original phrase comes from, but i
> just remember it being referred to in a couple of television shows.

4-1-1. it's the number you dial for "information" from the phone
company. <sorry if this is a repeat.>

scott
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if you record any of the new shows and are interested in trading please give
me a shout. my list is on-line at http://www.primenet.com/~underdog

thanks

carolyn

hey guys, i noticed that the epic site updated they're tour info, and now there's a auburn al tour scheduled for 4/25/97. does anyone have any information on this tour, anyone at auburn university able to find out anything? tickets available when, to whom, (student/nonstudent) how much, etc..

i'd love any info .. i just wish there was an atlanta date (still crossing my fingers) i mean, i know they're starting off their _official_ tour in atlanta, but i want to see all the tours :)

merry friday and return of the jedi,

raine

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does anyone have info about extra tixs for the ann arbor, mi show at
the michigan theatre, march 24th?? would give right arm, leg....etc..
.!! i would highly appreciate any gesture to help me.....i must see
them!!!

zav

at 11:22 pm 3/13/97 -0600, dragonman wrote:
>i always thought this was 'zapata reading poetry in his grave'. and the
>reason i bring this up is that i also always wondered if there was a
>'zapata' for whom the zapatistas were named. i confess ignorance of the
>history down there, but i thought maybe there was significance. anyone
know???

<the following condensed from britannica:>
yes. emiliano zapata was a turn-of-the-century south mexico peasant
revolutionary. he popularized the slogan "land and liberty" and was mainly
concerned with land reform. surprisingly, he was more effective at
maintining order and political honesty in his zone than the
anti-land-reform "moderates" were. in 1919 they assinated him using a phony
"recruit" to his army. he was famous for his "plan of ayala," his system of
taking 1/3 of the land from the rich estates and giving it to the indians,
as well as for his occupation of mexico city by hungry soldiers who went
from door to door begging rather than shooting. the modern zapatista
revolutionaries claim descent from him in ideology, with an emphasis on
land reform and the corruption of the central government, and in geographic
location, for zapata'a army was raised in and named after southern mexico.
<so endeth the lesson>

for my own two dollars: i have a fairly deep hatered for the central
government of mexico; i don't think that corruption and millitary
dictatorship is a claim to legitimacy. i would just as soon have our
country shoot their "leaders" as talk to them; i don't believe that they
represent the people at all.

whew! what a rant. later!
tony
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everybody help me !!!!!!!
i need to talk with someone about them because here in rome it's
impossible to find anything or anybody regarding them.is anybody there?

i was going to flame you for lying and saying it is sold out. but it is!!!
go figure - i live in orono and haven't seen one flyer for it and unh has
not sold out -- i'm glad i went through hell to get my colby tixs, i
honestly thought it would not sell out till maybe a week before.

and i thought jewel wasn't that big of a deal either...

(and i thought ani wouldn't sell out bates -- she offically sold out a week
ago)

what do i know -- i just go to shows all the time.

mike r.

on fri, 14 mar 1997, jeremy s ames wrote:

> as i have only been on the list since december i was wonder if the
> problems i have been having with it in the last few days are just normal
> occurrences. for about half a day i got no messages, now i am getting
> repeats.

okay, good question...yes, it happens sometimes. if it doesn't go away,
then email someone who has been here a long time and he or she should be
able to direct you to someone who can fix it...

> for any of you anal retentive, super-ego dominated, bastards that wish to
> flame me for asking a perfectly sensible question be ready for me to
> flame back. when you can write a two page letter telling people on the
> list what you believe they should and should not post, don't you really
> have to ask yourself what kind of life you have? now before i become
> what i despise i will stop.

okay, look...unlike many, i just stop in every few days and check my
mail...it's attitudes like this that make me want to stop subscribing to a
list i've been on for what seems like over a year. i have explained til
i'm blue in the face why those little post that ask "where's the list"
really aren't cool. back when i was one of those unfortunate individuals
who had a cheap school account, the list would flood my account when it
had been down and came back up, and all of those cute little panic posts
crashed my email account and caused me to lose tons of stuff that i
needed. i could handle fifty posts a day, but three hundred suddenly
flooding into my email..whoa baby!
   as for what we can and cannot discuss, those aren't our rules...they
are list rules, and i personally agree with them and took it upon myself
to remind us all of what is appropriate and what isn't.
   lighten up, okay? it's not that serious...:)
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hi, all.

i'm selling my ticket to the hofstra show. anyone interested in buying
it? if so, make me an offer.

margaret

i found that the easiest thing to do was to delete everything that was dated before yesterday. that way, i didn't read anything twice.

jennifer

hey all,

can anybody tell me when exactly the auburn show is, when tickets go on
sale and how i can get them? anybody else going?

thanks,
sharon

hi,  i'm new to this list, well, on and off here and there with different
email addresses, but anyway.  does anyone have any tickets they could sell
me perhaps to the show 3/28 in davenport ia?  i'm lookin for two tickets and
thought i would see if anybody had extras they need to get rid of before i
took the plunge and talk to the evil ticketmaster.

thanks

i'd like to thank the academy............ :)

putting together this listee web site has been loads of fun so far, and
even though this "speech" is gonna seem a little cheesy i want to publicly
thank everyone who made it possible, and who is was and will be making
possible the web ring and the photos page, and everyone who is was and
will be putting together pages for all our shindigos and indigatherings,
and everyone who's offered support or help or volunteered all along the
way, and everyone else who's started other list projects and set the
precedent, and everyone who's made this list a generally cool place.
special thanks in random order to margaret, amy s, scott, dianne, mat,
chris b, claire, susan, joni, mary, lori, drew, mjg, and andi (who's
getting recruited for my next project....<*wave*>...hi andi!).

i've tried to browse the pages as i've put them up and i have to step out
of the position of impartial web goddess for a moment and tell you all to
run, not walk, run to your nearest color graphical browser to visit the
pages of amy c. sanders, amy j. putnam, and david "ds" rogers.  i'm *so*
bummed that my screen is black-and-white because i really haven't gotten
to experience these pages in all their glory yet, but from what i *have*
seen it's worth a trip across campus to the computer lab in today's yucky
weather.  and ds's page is worth it with any browser, just for the fan
club comment.  subliminal message: you can get to all three pages from
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~abstein/listees/index.shtml.

later y'all,
audrey

p.s. whatever you think of flaming, punctuation, kirsten, anthony, or any
of the other nonsense that's taken up recent listserv bandwidth, you have
to admit kirsten's post here was one of the funniest non-sequitors to come
through the list since the tupperware center woman.

>> tell you what margaret just for you ill start flaming eveyr single person
>> that remotely pisses me off just like you so dont make any non ig post no
>> posts abotu no fear or melissa ethridge or ani or anyone else since this
>> is a ig list and not them and make sure all sig are 4 lines or less as per
>> netiquettte then of course we will all have to have ohnly one writing
>> style since everyone is suppose to be like everyone else now then your a
>> captian on the list police?
>>
>beige. i think i'll paint the ceiling beige.
>kirsten

<<
i would have to venture only a guess and say 5/17. they are not going to
play on one of the highest rated shows without some sort of single to
promote. as for rehearsals, they are always on sat. afternoons and they let
in a great deal of the public for the rehearsal. the show is harder to get
tixs for (i will try and dig up info on this, i do know a person @ nbc, but
i doubt that will help me. now if they play on msnbc, that would be another
story altogether..) >>

well, snl is only taping on 5/10 and 5/17. the 17th is the final show of the
season. since tickets are distributed through a lottery system in august,
standby tickets may be our best bet. i called nbc studios (got one of those
nifty answering systems) and found out that standby tickets are given out 8am
the day of the taping. also standby tickets for the rehearsal are distributed
at that time.

the phone number for nbc is (212) 664-3055.

crossing my fingers : )
annemarie

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on wed, 12 mar 1997, indigo jo wrote:

needless to say, this is a spew as well. but just for the record, thanks
for everyone who filled me in as to what a '411' is.

mat

> on wed, 12 mar 1997, salam princess of beer wrote:
>
> > hey y'all...
> > i'm on temporary list sabbatical while i'm studying over here in london
> > (as opposed to my usual north carolina), but i just wanted to know the
> > 411 on the new album...  i heard march, i heard april...  i have no idea
> > when its really being released...  is the release date going to be
> > different in the uk than in the us?  anyone had any freaky amy-em dreams
> > lately?  sorry, to say, i haven't...  hope everyone is well and prospering!
> > l,
> > mandy
> > (warra5c0@numen.elon.edu)
>
> the date which epic has been giving is 29th april, but someone has
> recently posted to the ig newsgroup saying that it has been put back yet
> again.   the epic web site seems to have moved, and the new address will
> be (i don't know if it's set up yet) http://www.epiccenter.com/ .
>
> incidentally, where does this expression "the 411" come from?   there was
> an album out by mary j blige (no i haven't got it, can't stand that kind
> of music, but i just thought it was a weird title) called "what's the
> 411?", and this is only the second time i've heard the expression.   why
> 411?
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> i am sure that after 2000 years everyone will come to accept the genius of
> the girls and build a society based on the teaching of their music.

if it's anything like the one in 'bill and ted's bogus journey' it should
be hip. all you need is someone like george carlin to spread the good word...
sean

is scooter boys more like the santa fe boot version or the "chickenman"
version. it also sounds like a really short song...is it?
ben

on fri, 14 mar 1997 verdi@imap2.asu.edu wrote:

> is scooter boys more like the santa fe boot version or the "chickenman"
> version. it also sounds like a really short song...is it?

i haven't heard the chickenman version, but it is recognizable as the same
song they played in santa fe. and it is short--i think it was three
minutes at mhc.

margaret

with all of the previous negativity overshadowing the good vibes i
usually get from the list...i've decided to add a little igc that i am very
proud of.

     two of my friends are having sweet 16 parties (yes, i'm pathetically
young) in this upcoming week.  i _never_ know what to get people for their
birthdays, so i usually ask people what they want and never settle for "i
don't know??"  amazingly, *both* of my friends asked for, "some of that cool
indigo girls stuff that you listen to."  i was so excited!!  where i live,
the indigo girls are unfortunately unheard of so having a few more fans here
makes me smile = ) i've talked to the local radio stations about playing some
indigo girls music (which is not done at all), but due to lacking popularity,
they couldn't care what i say. :(   i hope that the incredibly narrow minded
people i am forced to live and go to school with will learn that there is
more to music then what the local stations play.  having two of my friends
request it is a great start!!  just thought i'd share some happy igc = )

take care-
nicole

in a message dated 97-03-14 15:36:31 est, tony writes:

<< for my own two dollars: i have a fairly deep hatered for the central
government of mexico; i don't think that corruption and millitary
dictatorship is a claim to legitimacy. i would just as soon have our
country shoot their "leaders" as talk to them; i don't believe that they
represent the people at all.

whew! what a rant. later!
tony >>

yes...i have found myself actually siding with the republicans
(although i doubt if their motives are aligned with mine)over
denying mexico "drug war money" as it seems to only line their
pockets and help persecute the campesinos.

love,
miss b
"ow !!! my knee !!!!"
william jefferson clinton

ok, i just talked to ticket&*$#*%^master and they said that they have the
show listed for april 16th. so, i decided to check the wheaton web site,
and it says the 16th there also. so...i guess that this means that the
girls will be at wheaton on april 16th, a wednesday.

i'm still going to go, but i am going to make a plea to anyone who knows
how to get to wheaton by commuter rail to let me know.  i also need to
find out about hotels in the area that are easily accessable without a
car.  my friends and i are going but we are poor college students who
don't have cars, and need to go to the show.  if anyone has any of the
above information...please drop me a line!!

thanks-

jess

i have noticed some people asking questions about the auburn show. well,
it was just made official about two weeks ago, so information is still
coming in. i'll tell you what i know however, and keep you all updated.
right now tickets are supposed to go on sale in early april (when we get
back from spring break) and they are going to be around $12. the show will
be at the beard-eaves memorial collisium here on campus. they are bringing
their own opening act which has yet to be announced. i think that anyone
is invited but only students can buy tickets, that is likeely to change
however, that info. will be put into concrete in early april as well. we
are all very excited about the concert because they were scheduled to play
here in 1989 and cancelled the show because we were "too conservative",
put into laymen's terms: we had a very difficult time getting a charter
for our gay and lesbain association and they were silently protesting our
campus! but we have a very active agla now, and here they come!!!!!!
bjp

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the bumpershoot version sound more angry, cant really describe it -- haven't
heard mt holyoke (couldn't go because i was writing a paper -- currently on
page six 8^( -- pathetic dork i am needs to be finished by 9 am tomorrow)

mike r.

ok......i am going to vent for a sec....

the weather has been nice all week....but today it rains and rains....

i am sitting on a bus back from a day trip talking to this senior girl who
knows my listening tastes, and she informs me that ig is playing at the
birchmere....she said you could win tix from hfs. i said there was no way i
wouldn't know about an ig show.....

so i come home...and someone has posted the same info...but that the only way
to get the tix is from hfs. and to top that off, the au show is for au
people....

what is up with the dc shows.....???? i'm sorry i am not lucky and not at
au!!!

((trying to see if i have any connections....))

thanks for the vent session.....((hopefully someone will prove me wrong and
that these shows are not as restricted as i thought))
kate

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well my mohter board or powersupply or both decided to go ill have it
fixed with in a coupl eof days im not going to sign off my lists cause it
wont be that long and i hsould be able to cheeck my mail at hte library if
u get a bounced message trust me it wont be for very long so those who
usally email me privately dont do so and the list that im on dont worry i
dont expect the mail to bounce and if it does it shouldnt for htat long
ill write another note to say im back up and running real soon might even
be by tomorrow

okay, first let me apoligize for my very angry attack before. i was just
getting fed up with public flames, but my message made me as big a
hypocrite as the people writting the flames.

second, thanks to all those who wrote about the list repeat problem.
with any luck, it will quit soon!

third, people seem to support my declairation of the "emily millenium" so
i guess its a go.

forth, i was reading some poetry by jane cortez (sp?) today. she is a
very angry and talented poet. i was wondering if amy was a fan of hers,
because her poetry often reminds me of amy's music.

thanks y'all

jeremy

hi all,

this may be old news, but i just got the latest issue of "atlanta" magazine
in which there is a pretty detailed article about amy ray. in it they
discuss her background, the new album and various causes she is committed
to. it's part interview/part bio, and emily even manages to sneak a few
words in there as well!

if anyone would like me to snag them a copy or just wants more information,
feel free to e-mail me directly at sam@intergate.net

peace!

stacie
sam@intergate.net

house o' moj http://www.intergate.net/uhtml/sam/

no, it's not just you....i was wondering what was going on.

dawn

i was reading back through old posts from over a year ago when i came
across something that i had wondered before but then forgot. who is
the "indigo virgin" at the end of cover me grey?

anna

well, as for ellen coming out, i have heard that opera is guest starring on
the show.  ellen is supposed to come out right before the end of the season
and the managers think that opera's "approval" will encourage the audience
and the show's ratings.  the way i see it as that everyone already knows that
ellen is a lesbian and therefore, the ratings should stay the same regardless
of opera or anyone else.
btw, i heard all of this on entertainment tonight.  did anyone else perhaps
see it?
always,
mic
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today, kirsten said:

>>beige. i think i'll paint the ceiling beige.

yay! now this is more like it! :o)

kirsten, honey, you get the prize for funniest post today!

(don't want everyone to think i only post scolds to the list when people are
being bad ... i also give equal time for "pat's on the back" - and you get
one today kirsten!)

have a good nite everyone!
joni :o)

ellen is coming out to a opera?? is it by verdi? (sorry my brain is dead as
i am still writing the paper from hell and i'm now on page 10, but my
annotated bibliography is a mere 12 pages for this same paper. i will have
this paper done by 9 am as i need to get to boston to see vic chesnutt.)

just had to reply -- i think you meant oprah.

mike r.

...may 17 is my birthday and i have reserved a beach house on the gulf that
allows me to bring my four-footed soul-mates (with two-footed in tow). ig
on snl and waves crashing?.....

cathy

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