lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-04b


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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:21:42 -0400
reply-to:     galileo <tbranham@richmond.edu>
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the entire nickname thing...ummm..well, i kinda like the normal listees...i
mean i know i am fortunate to be able to go to the ig show on april 20th,
and again on june 14th, and for now having the watershed video...
and the kind friends thing...well, as corinne said we are not always all
that kind...although many of you are kinda funny when you are in a smart ass
type of mood!;)

as for the entire dubbing issue i have a big...just wait...geez...ok, now
that that has been said about a hundred times i think everyone has gotten
the message!

now susanbmarine said:
>okay! whoever flamed jan for making a simple, innocent request regarding my
>having a copy of sots, you get 30 lashes with the king size slim jim from 1989
>that i keep in my sock!


susan, i am a visual kinda person...you say it i see it!!!;)  this was a
really funny picture! put that slim jim away girl...it must smell!!! in your
sock until 1989?...did you have cheese with it?;)

peace all
tucker

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:11:11 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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from:         joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
subject:      who are we?

not to be on the soabox again<g>...but i just prefer saying i subscribe to
the indigo girls internet mailing list.  that's what i tell folks who are
unfamiliar with the list.  from that point on, i call it "the list," and
the nifty souls on it "listees," or "list pals."  i realize it's not real attractive
or descriptive, but i doubt we could all agree on any one descriptive phrase.
at first, i kind of thought "kind friends" might be nice, but i really just
prefer saying i'm on "the list."

peace,

joan :-d

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date:         mon, 7 apr 1997 23:16:56 -0500
reply-to:     tracy fears <salray@webtv.net>
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anybody else going to the lilith fair? and how do i get tickets? (did
someone already mention this and i blindly deleted it?)
seems rather disappointing...the lilith fair is coming to houston, but
ig will not be participating in it until a week after it has left
houston *pouts* i'm sad...i'll never get to see an ig concert *whines*
oh well, i'm sure i'll see one sometime..it just sucks that it's so
close to me and they won't be there...but i'll try to make it there
anyway..maybe i can con tony into loaning me his couch for the night?
*nudge*nudge*
and i promise i won't wear my dorky looking saray/i will not be
complacent shirt that i wore to the galveston list party *gags*
everytime i look at those pictures i want to burn that stoopid shirt...i
can't believe i did that...oh well...you gotta laugh at yourself...
goodnight folks!
-sal

"ungnikta ca cihiya wahi yelo. ca iyonicipi hantanhano mihakap hiya wo..."
-lakota indian saying...

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:35:24 -0400
reply-to:     audrey beth stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
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from:         audrey beth stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
subject:      re: eugene report - yet another one (long)
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>
>after 'leeds' amy said she felt it was sacreligious to play "the next song"
>but emily said something like "no, no, i've been waiting for this." then
>amy sang the first note of chickenman and the entire audience leapt to
>their feet with a loud cheer.

wow.  just...wow.  there's just so much in that interaction.  i don't
think it's exactly explainable but i wanted to give it attention
nonetheless....if you want to know anything about the relationship between
amy and emily it's right there.  i saw half of it at hofstra, in emily's
face as amy started chickenman.  chickenman is amy's prayer, that's my
understanding of it.....leeds must have been pretty friggin incredible for
amy to feel it sacreligious to follow it with chickenman.  i am awed just
reading about this....my impossible dream is to have been inside emily's
head during that leeds.  i learned so much watching emily at hofstra, but
i think i could have all the rest of my questions answered just
experiencing what went on in her head during that one song.

damn i envy their relationship.  my art is a solitary thing and always
will be.  it fits into a community, sure, but i don't think with fiction
or photo you can have an artistic partner who is integral to your work.
music's special that way.  and emily and amy are truly fortunate.

....audrey,
grateful for the gift of understanding, even more so these days than for
the gift of expression.


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date:         mon, 7 apr 1997 23:38:47 -0500
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at 11:16 pm 4/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i'm with you, jennifer.  besides, booting concerts is not illegal.  booting

not a flame, just a clarification:

boot'leg' vt., vi. -legged', -leg'ging [<hiding liquor in a boot>]  to make
of sell (esp. liquor) illegally  --adj. botlegged; illegal..........
--webster's new world dictionary of the american language

        if bootlegging concerts is on the up and up, how come we hide our
recorders in private areas and submit to pat-downs at the doors?  maybe we
should stop bootin' concerts and make everyone buy tickets to the actual
show....not!
cathy

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:43:43 -0400
reply-to:     jersey girl <tleung@wellesley.edu>
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subject:      deeeep thoughts....igc
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hey all!!

i was just listening to my mapped boot (thank you tom!!you rock!!) and
winthrop came on..and emily mentions boston (winthrop being a suburb of
bahhston)
so... it got me thinking that this is the second reference to
boston i've heard so far of the new stuff. the other reference is in gotm..

anyway, does anyone know why a&e are suddenly talking about bahston/east
coast a little more than usual? they usually only mention the south! is it
because we're just so cool up here in the east coast? <g> heheehe..

just some random musings...

take care all!

therese :)

(8 days till ig is at wheaton in ma!!!whoohoo)

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date:         mon, 7 apr 1997 21:35:31 -0700
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>p.p.p.s. ferron was soooo cool, it made my day just to say "thank you" to
>her after the show. she waved at me! wow! :)

actually, kristina, she was waving at me!

tee hee,
bon

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date:         mon, 7 apr 1997 22:48:56 -0700
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  ahhhhh...i remember the days where i used to post every five minutes.
unfortunately, i grow less and less intelligent each day and have
little to say of worth. prehaps it's all those damn musicals i've been
in. one can hardly attempt a profound thought in the middle of singing
"it's been a real nice clam bake".
   amyray, the big event is coming up in 22 days so i decided to post.
the other day i was sitting at the coffee plantation and what do i hear
from behind the mud counter but "jonas and ezeikial". in places like
boston or ny i bet this is quite common but in the cultural dessert of
arizona it is a true blessing.
   i also called the 1-800 number and have decided that this may become
my favorite album since nis. i honestly think that if ig would have done
one more acoustic based album i would think a little less of
them. i think they had to get a bit harder to go anywhere with their
music.  commerical plot or not this is by far,musically, their best album.
i also got tickets to the mann. my bi-annual rite of passage is an ig
concert at the mann. i hope to make an even bigger ass of myself at this
concert than the last. i'm already plotting the signs i'm gonna make.
  that's it. my brain is already beginning to overload because of
writing full sentences. back to the cage.
ben
" sick of living..scared of dying"
-oscar hammerstein

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:57:32 -0600
reply-to:     greg flamer <gflame@nwu.edu>
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subject:      the end to the name debate
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i have the answer so just stop all your voting and debating now.

we are (drumroll please):

the indigonads

i feel proud, don't you?  to bed....


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date:         mon, 7 apr 1997 22:20:53 -0700
reply-to:     kathy miller <kmiller@accessone.com>
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speak for yourself, greg.

me, i'm proud to call myself and my friends (kind & rude alike):
****the indigovaries****

there now, case closed, sweet dreams.

kathy

p.s. of course, those of you who just can't identify with either one, you
can be indignation if you want.

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 01:33:21 -0700
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okay y'all i've given you a break from my constent plugs cause everybody
is so freakin cool!!!! as of today the total is  <drumroll please . . .>

one thousand seven hundred and twenty two dollars!!!!!!!!

i must say that this group is the coolest bunch of people i have ever
met (and y'all sure do have big hearts!!!!)

a lot of you (especially newbies) have written me about joining in on
this project.  greta and i want to make sure that everybody that wants
to can still donate to hte and be included in the total we give to amy
on thursday, so here's the deal, send in your donation (checks and money
orders payable to honor the earth) to:

honor the earth
c/o greta gohn
po box 502
chimacum, wa 98325

then email either me (mandi96@airmail.net)or greta (cgohn@olympus.net)
and tell us how much you just sent in and we will add that to the
total.  we will not tell anybody how much you donated, that is strictly
confidential, we just want to make sure it is included in the total
given to amy.  if you have any questions about anything feel free to ask
me.

love,
the b'day fairies

(tony, greta, and mandingo)

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 02:37:07 edt
reply-to:     joan morrison <103161.3515@compuserve.com>
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subject:      more barking dogs...

well, alison was right about emily having barking dogs in one of her songs
(well, not literally, but referenced in the lyrics<g>) - the line in mystery about
"now we're out in the back with the barking dogs..."  the amy line i was
thinking of was from dead man's hill:  "barking dogs and model planes..."
so, could there be a barking dog theme here?  hmmm...and both on the same
album...   barking dogs...hmmm...a prospective name for our list?  well...
maybe just on days when some of us are especially cranky and flame-prone...<g>

peace and woof,

joan :p

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:14:14 -0700
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subject:      re: nigc ferron cello accomp.
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on mon, 7 apr 1997, lorinda wright wrote:
> > p.s. wonder how long amy's guitar tech will be around? comments?
>
> personally, i hope she's around forever. sulli is imho a)a great tech

i don't know if sulli was there or not but the person i saw handing off
guitars and getting regular tongue lashings from amy was male, or sure
looked it from the 7 different vantage points i had during the show!  i
think this is who was referred to...i could be wrong.

> (where do you think all those new guitars come from when amy breaks three
> strings/song?) b)a great ally to have on stage after the show (she's
> nice about tossing you a pick if you ask-i've gotten two from her)
> c)a great performer in her own right (i've heard her, and she's _cool_!)
> and d)a great person (really a dudess).
>
> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo
>
>
> still driving...
> lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
> washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
> st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
>                           trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
>                                                         -melissa ferrick
>                     i will not be complacent
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it's like trying to fight gravity on a planet that insists
that love is like falling and falling is like this.--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 00:27:35 -0700
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on tue, 8 apr 1997, audrey beth stein wrote:
> >after 'leeds' amy said she felt it was sacreligious to play "the next song"
> >but emily said something like "no, no, i've been waiting for this." then
> >amy sang the first note of chickenman and the entire audience leapt to
> >their feet with a loud cheer.
<snippy>
> understanding of it.....leeds must have been pretty friggin incredible for
> amy to feel it sacreligious to follow it with chickenman.  i am awed just

yeah, the first thing she said after the moment of silence following leeds
was with a totally transparent look of admiration: "wow, when the piano's
in tune that's such a beautiful song>"  for that matter, i felt that both
of them were much more themselves then when i've seen them in the past,
perhaps since they've been on this long run of the dreaded "meet-n-greets"
instead of just playing their music for their fans.  when amy got out at
first, she looked out at the crowd and said,"wow, this is so big.  we've
been doing all these promo parties and believe me, this place looks as
big as the universe to us right now."  you could just feel the sense of
relief.

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seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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amy*er*greg wrote:
> i have the answer so just stop all your voting and debating now.
>
> we are (drumroll please):
>
>
> the indigonads
>
yeahyeahyeahyeah!!!!
i'm an indigonaad!!! wooooooh!
now that schmidt beer can tshirt makes so much more sense...
all of this talk about 'nads reminds me of a song....
"if i had a penis i'd still be a girl, but i'd make much more money and
conquer the world..."
amy(oops greg, sorry for blowing your cover) you rawk! double ozzy signs
for you!

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that love is like falling and falling is like this.--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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okay.  i just want to say thank you to everyone for being so nice. = )  i hereby vote for discussion to cease regarding the sots dubbing.  i spoke from my heart, but not fully fact-armed.  i thank both those of you who were kind enough to allay my fears, and those of you who understood from where i was coming.  i think now is the time to let go, live, and let live.  i hold you all in the highest regard as people intelligent enough to know talent and passion when they see them.  so...that said, i have to tell you how red my face is.  i posted "tulsa concert tomorrow night* on monday...the concert is on wednesday.  *giggle*  i guess i'm just excited.  this is only my third ig concert...but it's in a smaller venue and i have tickets on the floor!!!!!!  okay.  gotta go.  thanks for your time and understanding.

jennifer w.
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                                 - - sting

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 11:41:36 +0100
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subject:      some nigc and some igc....

well, i'm glad i finally know the uk release date for sots (may 5th)
- now i'll finally be able to see what you lot have been talking
about for the past few weeks....

and by the way, i'm a fortunate one and proud of it....

john.

"your ex wife holding a loaded gun - god,
what a turn on...."

caroline, caroline in the city.

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 08:24:36 -0400
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subject:      re: y100/philly contest

heard an *ad* on y100 this morning telling fans to listen to win tix to watch
the ig record in studio.  is this a national thing? local? anyone heard
anything else about it?  still don't think y100 is playing soy but 88.1 was
going to during a *new music* show earlier this week which i missed.

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date:         tue, 8 apr 1997 07:57:51 -0700
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subject:      nigc- if you're not rena ya can just hit delete
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sorry about this again y'all, my 'puter doesn't like sending to rena's
email addy, so this is the only way i can reach her.

rena,

there must be something really funky going on between our computers,
casue i keep responding to your messages and they don't get to you.
anywho, do you want me to put you on the b'day list as well as have your
message with it or is it okay if i just have your message with the
list.  i was just under the impression that you wanted your message with
the list cause it has all of the same info that the list message would
have.  okay, that sounded confusing.  just let me know if you want to be
on the list or not.  thanks.

love,
mandingo

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ok, so i feel that i am the most psychotically crazy-in-love with the ig
person on my teeny-tiny little campus of 6000.  and even though i am crazy
psycho busy, i also read my ig digests...i may not post often, but i do
read.....

so why is it that the music director of our teeny tiny little radio station
(which is an ok station, btw) gets an interview with my favorite girls next
tuesday at penn state???????  i mean, i am a member of the newspaper and
i have been a fan for 10 years and i have all their albums and boots and
posters and videos and everything.....and he gets to meet them????


oh, the humanity.

peace, love and an indigo smile-

karrie

ps.  ya think maybe that penn state would grant me an interview for the newspaper??
:)

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hello to all

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(sorry about the first post, it was a boo-boo)

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( i apoligize for the previous messages sent, i don't
understand why it is happening, but this is the real thing!)

      if the person who got in touch with russell carter about giving
amy the hte donation could email me i woudl greatly appreciate it.
i need to find a way to get a artwork/journal book that some of us
new england listees made for amy's bday and give it to her at
unh on her birthday.  thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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hey dave and others,
i knew when i wrote that that i should have qualified that..... (about
women, for women.....)
i don't know why i didn't.....

forgive me (melissa too!)!
(libby... feeling a little embarrassed)


ecoff@ucar.edu on 04/07/97 03:37:37 pm

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>if you haven't already, check this woman [melissa ferrick] out....

i just saw her a couple of weeks ago with about 25 other people at the fox
theater in boulder, co, and all i can say is wow!  so much passion, so much
love and anger and humor -- so much emotion!  melissa's music is wonderful!
i especially like her "willing to wait" cd.

the reason for my writing this is not only to promote melissa's music, but
to clarify a bit what libby had to say about her music:

>her music is about women, for women.... personality huge.

well, being a guy who loves her music, i would have to disagree about those
first two things.  i can relate very much to melissa's message, and while i
am gay, i think anyone gay, straight, male, female, whatever could relate
to her music and message on some level.  that's one of the many wonderful
things about her music (and the indigo girl's and kristen hall's and.....)

btw, i asked melissa about any kristen hall news and she said, "funny, the
guys in the van and i were just talking about her.  i am going to give her
a call tomorrow and see how she's doing"  i wonder what she found out....

-dave

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ok, i know some people hate this, but i've looked everywhere and i can't
find your addy lynne, songstress from nff'96 who wailed with ig (gawd, how
did you stand that close to amy ray, *at the same mic*, and not plant one
right on her...whew!).

pls email me...i have a question about the boot you want...

now returning to your regularly scheduled programming....

joni  :o)

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>heard an *ad* on y100 this morning telling fans to listen to win tix to watch
>the ig record in studio.  is this a national thing? local? anyone heard
>anything else about it?  still don't think y100 is playing soy but 88.1 was
>going to during a *new music* show earlier this week which i missed.

i heard there was something similar going on in boston--but i am stuck in
the middle of maine, so i don't know the details.  any other cities, and
anyone know any more details?

anyone have any setlists, timings, or general comments about the shows so
far.  i have been busy and haven't paid much attention to them.  but with
unh(14 th row center) and colby this weekend, i am dying to know what is
going on.  thanks for any info you can provide.  its probably best to
private email since i'm sure its been posted earlier.

also if you have any bootlegs of the '97 shows, i would be very
interested!!!  i have many to trade.  ~400 hours, mostly dead, but many
rem, indigo girls, hornsby.

thanks,


luzi

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hi there. newbie writing. i know i am supposed to wait a while before
posting but i am sooo excited and i need some help! two days from now i get
to go see/hear the girls at tcu and we have front row seats!!!  as in
row-a!! this is all so cool.
i have never before taped a show or taken pictures, and would like some
tips on how-to's and don't-do's from all y'all veterans. not sure what is
legit and what's not.

thanks
urvashi.

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--- greg funnyface wrote:
the indigonads

i feel proud, don't you?  to bed...
--- end of quoted material ---
priceless!!!!
that's it!
i wanna be the left one :)

sus

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susan b. marine wrote:
>
> --- greg funnyface wrote:
> the indigonads
>
> i feel proud, don't you?  to bed...
> --- end of quoted material ---
> priceless!!!!
> that's it!
> i wanna be the left one :)

ya' know?  i'd give my left "sus" to get tickets to an ig concert!  :o)

scott

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the guitar tech i was referring to sure looked male, but i was looking
through binoculars so could be wrong.

>i don't know if sulli was there or not but the person i saw handing off
>guitars and getting regular tongue lashings from amy was male, or sure
>looked it from the 7 different vantage points i had during the show!  i
>think this is who was referred to...i could be wrong.

i too was at the show and wished that i had booting capability. did anyone
get a boot of the eugene show or know of anyone who did? it would be most
amazing. i had signed off for the weekend of the show to avoid mail
overload, could someone send me the set list that was previously referred
to-thanks.

sara
saraw@gorge.net

nigc...also saw shawn colvin and patti griffin the night before the ig
eugene show in portland, spectacular. shawnie sure knows how to put on a
show and patti griffin gave me the chills, she is wonderful. (oh don't want
to leave out freedy, but wasn't all that impressed with him) anyway, four
wonderful performances in two nights-blew me away.

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in a message dated 97-04-07 19:55:44 edt, you write:

<<  saw jamie at the eugene show and have to agree she was amazing but i
had no idea she was a member of rumours of the big wave until this >>
funny you should mention that...i just picked up burning times yesterday...

dawn

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i know..i know...it has  been *forever* since i posted.....


but, i have come out of lurkdom to say this:
kettering....kettering...woo wooo wooo...

ok now that my outburst is over...i live kinda close to there and if
anyone wants a get together or something i can halp plan and stuff...


if anyone knows who is selling hte tix (is it ticketbastard or what)
let me know cause i will be first in line!

kellie


yes i promise not to lurk so much anymore ;)
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subject:      amy kind of resembles....

hi guys, i'm kind of nervous about posting, since this is only my second
one, and the first one was a question and this one is kind of a commentary,
please take it easy on me.... anyhoo....
i saw watershed for the first time last night (yeah i know, i'm a little
slow :) ) but i noticed that amy looks and moves like melissa etheridge
in so many ways.  or is it the other way around... me looks and moves
like her?
did anyone else notice this?
just wondering....
erika

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scott wrote:
>susan b. marine wrote:
>> --- greg funnyface wrote:
>> the indigonads
>> i feel proud, don't you?  to bed...
>> --- end of quoted material ---
>> priceless!!!!
>> that's it!
>> i wanna be the left one :)
>ya' know?  i'd give my left "sus" to get tickets to an ig concert!  :o)

ummm, folks, there are a few young'uns on the list...maybe we could try
to keep the humor a little more....family-oriented?   ;)

watch yourselves.

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i would like to join the indigo girls mailing list...

        alisa greenberg
        agreenbe@access.k12.wv.us

        west virginia

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howdy folks,

> the guitar tech i was referring to sure looked male, but i was looking
> through binoculars so could be wrong.
>
> >i don't know if sulli was there or not but the person i saw handing off
> >guitars and getting regular tongue lashings from amy was male, or sure
> >looked it from the 7 different vantage points i had during the show!  i
> >think this is who was referred to...i could be wrong.

then it wasn't sulli. sulli's a woman. there's to be no doubting _that_!
;) don't know who the tech was then. i assume you'd know jimmy "jam" if
he was teching.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
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                    i will not be complacent

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on tue, 8 apr 1997, kellie deis wrote:

> but, i have come out of lurkdom to say this:
> kettering....kettering...woo wooo wooo...
>
i feel the same way. ticketba$terd is selling tickets to this show. i
think they go on sale on saturday at noon or something.

kettering is about an hour north of me, so i will be there. i propose mama
desalvo's for dinner beforehand. awesome italian food, and mama will
sometimes holler at you if you don't finish your food!

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on tue, 8 apr 1997, audrey beth stein wrote:

> scott wrote:
> >susan b. marine wrote:
> >> --- greg funnyface wrote:
> >> the indigonads
> >> i feel proud, don't you?  to bed...
> >> --- end of quoted material ---
> >> priceless!!!!
> >> that's it!
> >> i wanna be the left one :)
> >ya' know?  i'd give my left "sus" to get tickets to an ig concert!  :o)
>
> ummm, folks, there are a few young'uns on the list...maybe we could try
> to keep the humor a little more....family-oriented?   ;)
>
> watch yourselves.
>
> later folks,
> miss henry beatitudes (the prim and proper)
cant get much more "family" oriented then that <g>

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has anyone heard the status of tix (when are they going on sale) for the
2nd show at chastain on 5/24?

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i don't know much about this male guitar tech, but i did meet him.  at the
kmtt seattle show, we talked to him and he gave us a guitar pick.  he was
wearing a nametag that said "fred", and then under that, it said "tim".
my guess is that his name is tim, thought the name tags were goofy, so
made up the fred part.  so at the eugene show, after the show, i yelled up
to fred.  he looked up with a smiile and said, "you must have been at the
show last night".  he gave us another guitar pick and a piece of a broken
guitar string, and we had him sign the journal that we keep.  anyways, he
signed  as tim ("fred").  he was a really nice guy.  said they were headed
back to atlanta that night.

thats all i know about tim the guitar tech.  i probably have the only fred
autograph ;)

melissa, usually a lurker

> howdy folks,
>
> > the guitar tech i was referring to sure looked male, but i was looking
> > through binoculars so could be wrong.
> >
> > >i don't know if sulli was there or not but the person i saw handing off
> > >guitars and getting regular tongue lashings from amy was male, or sure
> > >looked it from the 7 different vantage points i had during the show!  i
> > >think this is who was referred to...i could be wrong.
>
> then it wasn't sulli. sulli's a woman. there's to be no doubting _that_!
> ;) don't know who the tech was then.

no, i noticed who she was too.  definitely a woman ;)

> folkisgruven,
> lorindigo
>

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hows about...

"pretty pretenders" (obviously referring to the anonynity of the net)

or

"the indiriffics" (kinda a 50's doo-wop band feel)

or

"the obsessed freaky people (and proud of it)"

by the way, has anyone noticed that "love's recovery" and "language or the
kiss" seem to be related?  "feeding the cancer of my intellect, the blood
of love soon neglected..." seems to go hand-in-hand with the whole feel of
"lotk".

you've all probably thought of that, like, years ago, but it just came to
me in a vision.

two days 'till ft. worth!

justin

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actually,my ex said the same thing, but i still can't see it...
melissa and amy...lookalikes? hmmm...nope.
                   sharoane

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hi to all --

i'm looking for boots on either 5/25 and/or 8/16 ---- any year, any show,
audio or video - can anyone help?
i'm new at trading but would like to make a couple of birthdays
special...just let me know what i need to do......     :)

sorry to take up band width for this --
peace, karen

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subject:      re: the end to the name debate

in a message dated 97-04-08 10:14:13 edt, gflame@nwu.edu (greg flamer)
writes:

> we are (drumroll please):
>   the indigonads

you have your indigonads, greg, and i have my indigovaries... :)

-sheri, feels like a day for my indigo-colored tie-dyes :)

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i'm not sure if this qualifies as igc or not so i apologize if it isn't but
i was wondering if that tree donna was going to set up ever materialized and
perhaps i missed it or something?? i was at the hofstra concert and i would
really love your boot and the scholastic tape.  this is in no way an attempt
to make you or the branches rush or anything i was just wondering if it was
going to happen or not. if anyone knows anything (about the boot of course)
feel free to respond privately. thanks in advance-dave

p.s.- does anyone know if jan stevens is still on the list!?! jan, are you
out there? i sent you an e-mail about on the road to austin and the tape i
sent to you but i have gotten no response so i was wondering if you are
still here and if everything is okay. respond privately if you read this.
thanks-dave

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i just got a free single cd from tcu-shame on you, the radio edit, and the
version from their forthcoming cd!!!. listening to it right now. also got
the 800 number to listen to a preview of the new cd-its 800-742-7269. it
was on the sticker which has a picture of the two dolls off of the new
cover. tcu seems to have lots of stickers. if y'all want some, let me know
and i will pick up a few. i also signed up for backstage passes. keep your
fingers, toes, and eyes crossed for me will y'all?

as is perhaps obvious, i am insanely excited.

urvashi.

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--- ms prim and proper wrote:
ummm, folks, there are a few young'uns on the list...maybe we could try
to keep the humor a little more....family-oriented?   ;)

watch yourselves.
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aww for goddess sakes, audrey! liten up!
i'm usually amazed by the maturity level of the younger folks on this list, and
i think they certainly know what nads are!

whatever! keep laffin.

anyhoo, i got the sf slim's tape and the kfog tape today, wahoo! i only had
*two*volunteers for the tree so please email me if you wanna help out...

thanky

sus

"go give that girl some gum!"

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my suggestion for a nickname/listname is:
fandigos!
it is quick, to the point, unambiguous and short enough even for those with
sore wrists.

kevin s. minoli, who keeps on singing, "go down to the riverside, take off
our clothes and wash these sins away."

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dr. urvashi pitre wrote:
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> the 800 number to listen to a preview of the new cd-its 800-742-7269.

hey doc!

thanks for the info. just got back from lunch and saw your mesage and
called the 800 number. very cool. i simply cannot wait for the new album

the recording says the album will be released on april 29th and they
start a major tour in may. i have also heard that ig will be a part of a
tour featuring all women performers (can't remember the name off hand).
but the tour will feature ani difranco as well.

i don't suppose i could be lucky enough to catch an ig concert and the
ani difranco/indigo girls/mary chapin-carpenter tour in austin, in one
year?!!

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well, finally i can add some valuable information to the list! :)
i grew up and lived about 5 blocks from fraze pavilion for about 20 years of
my life.  i will definitely be at the show in june.
i've been emailing various people about the show --
does anyone need directions?  anything?
would we like to organize a pre-show get-together?  fraze is in a nice
suburban neighborhood but there is a small mall just about 1/2 mile away
from there.
email me if you have any interest in the show and i'll try to keep a master
list.
alycia

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i will not concede
i will believe
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on tue, 8 apr 1997, erika menanteaux wrote:

> hi guys, i'm kind of nervous about posting, since this is only my second
> one, and the first one was a question and this one is kind of a commentary,
> please take it easy on me.... anyhoo....
> i saw watershed for the first time last night (yeah i know, i'm a little
> slow :) ) but i noticed that amy looks and moves like melissa etheridge
> in so many ways.  or is it the other way around... me looks and moves
> like her?
> did anyone else notice this?
> just wondering....
> erika

        carolyn writes:
yeah i think amy ray looks like me especially in thier indigo girls
guitar/song  book... the last pic where amy's eyes are really intense and
emily looks like she's prayin.... wel just my 2 cents...later all you
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hey, all you people who live in la, i just went to the tower records in
hollywood (sunset blvd) and what did they have in the "soon to be
released" listening station, but a copy of shaming of the sun!!!  if you
live around here, i suggest you go and listen to the whole thing, unless
of course you want to wait for the real release date.

anyway, i wasn't expecting it to be there, but there it was staring at me
loud and clear with a black and white xerox of what i can only assume is
going to be the back cover.  amy looks great, and so does emily, but she
looks more like captain janeway from voyager than the emily we are
familiar with.  i even warned my friends (jokingly) that if it was there,
we'd be at the store for at least an hour.  i'm so happy.  you will be
too.

the new album is completely amazing.  they are truly magicians in the
studio, and you can feel exactly what they are going for.  it's so good.
after one listening, it is my favorite studio album of theirs.  and i'm
really glad that they are doing different things.  it says something about
a musician if he/she can change styles yet still retain a high level of
quality.  they did not hold anything back.  some may argue this, but i
always felt like swamp ophelia could have used more kick.  well, they
kicked the ass off of this new record.  so passionate.  ok enough
rambling.  here's a play by play.

shame on you - this was my first time hearing the studio version, and i
could not stop smiling.  what's so wrong with the banjo?  i think it puts
the song a little off balance, but in a good way.  i also loved ( and this
could be my imagination) the slight tempo increase when the drums come it.

get out the map - now this one had me laughing in joy all the way through.
it's perfect.  emily is a goddess.  her voice seems stronger on this
album.

shed your skin - the first of the "amy-is-having-fun-in-the-studio"
trilogy.  it rocks hard, and it's like looking through a window into amy's
head.

it's alright - so much better than before.  the guitar riffs are pure
emily, but with a harder edge, and the solo is great.

caramia - sweet baby jesus, i almost fell down when listening to this. emily
hasn't done anything this intense in a long time.  after 4 songs that are
fast and furious, they inject this tune which is not fast, but certainly
soul wrenching.  another thing i noticed about this one is that amy's
voice is altered a lot.  kind of like in mystery.

don't give that girl a gun - this one is awesome also.  and it's got
acoustic guitar!  what's up with that?  just kidding.

and then there was leeds - it's sparse, but really good after all the full
sounds in the record otherwise.  another deeply moving voice of reason
from emily.  oh, and ulali makes the song completely whole with their
backing vocals.  i suggest you all go and buy their album which can be
found at ladyslipper on the net.  it's called "mahck jchi" (spelling is
definitely wrong)

scooter boys - part two in the trilogy.  what can i say, but good luck
keeping up emily.  no, i'm sure she'll be able to...

everything in it's own time - beautiful tune.  i think it'se played on a
classical guitar, but i'm not sure.  and a wonderful solo by the
illustrious queen of fingerdom.

cut it out - part three in the trilogy.  it's like a potpourri of new ways
to put a song structure together.  it's not my favorite, but it's still
powerful.

burn all the letters - i don't think anyone has confirmed yet, but it is
an emily song and it reminds me a lot of let it be me.  pacing and
theme-wise, but it's got ulali doing some crazy harmonies.

hey kind friend - this is a long song.  it goes all around a roller
coaster of pacing and dynamics.  well, maybe it doesn't, but it seemed
like it did in my stupor of happiness.  there;s a guy talking in the
middle too.

so that's it folks.  i think we will all be very happy at the end of this
month.  forgive me for going on so long.  check your local tower records,
and maybe you'll get lucky too!

wendell

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i was in a women's bookstore in atlanta and was browsing through a book
on m.e.  there were lots of supposedly "unseen before" pics of melissa.
let's just say i didn't even have to squint to see a resemblance between
the two.(amy annd melissa)  i had to convince myself once that melissa is
not really one of amy's long lost cousins.  i don't see it now, in recent
photos, but in the past...wow!!  just my 2 and a half cents....

-aim

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      "..i wanna find me a bar, with a blue light on. dollar
      shot specials, a bartender named dawn.  painting the
      town, selling the farm...you pierce your nose and i'll
      tatoo my arm..."

                                       "heaven"
                                       -melissa etheridge
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hey kind fortunate friends ...

can someone with more brains than myself help me with something on win95 ...

i'd like to change the background of my screen .. it seems to always default
to the same background even if i try and change it ...

plus i'd like to use an image as my background such as a pic of ig (like i
used to on my old laptop - the one w/o win 95 ...)

gee i've been using win95 for how long before i've finally given up and
decided to ask for help ????

chris (another fortunate one)

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dear amy and emily:
        my name is laura mcferrin and i am a junior at austin college in
sherman, tx. austin college is a small, private university. although our
student body is small, we have many worthwhile organizations on the
campus.
        one organization is p.r.i.d.e., people reaffirming identity differences
and educating. i am president of this organization and our main goal is
provide a place for gay and lesbian students to feel comfortable in.
        pride has about 60 members and we are expanding everyday. i asked the
group who they wanted to bring to our school for coming out day next
october. they all said indigo girls. most of us didn't think it was
likely that we could get the indigo girls but it's worth a try. if you
guys are interested in playing for a small university in a small town we
would love it!!!!!

(i love your music because it sounds like poetry i wish i could write)
                                        let it be me,
                                        laura mcferrin

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subject:      re: emily looks like an old bar dyke

if that's what old bar dykes look like, i'm going out more often!

                                                tuesday's child

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hey there fourtunate ones (or whatever)!!

     i just finished reading the 3 (yes 3) articles in newsweek surrounding
"ellen morgan" coming out on april 30th and ellen degeneres coming out on
april 23rd on "prime time live".  this post has very little ellen content, it
has more to do with with the 2nd article titled "hollywood lesbians: it's a
'girl world'".  they mention melissa etheridge and k.d. lang as being the
lesbian pioneers of the music scene, and amanda bearse (marcy on "married
with children") as being the first prime-time actress to come out.  it is a
wonderful article showing how women in general and gay women have become more
successful in the business world.  they discuss the success of lift (lesbians
in film and television) and glaad (gay and lesbian alliance against
defamation.  it reveals how gay women in show business work together in
hollywood's "girl world".  if you can get your hands on a newsweek, i
recommend reading the article, it's the april 14th edition, pages 65-70.  it
might even be available on the net.

happy reading!
nicole

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can anybody confirm, or semi-confirm the snl date for me?  respond
privately...thank you!

mindala

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anyone know where i can get the hofstra boot?
chris ii

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ok, so i'm reading along for my next class in a book called _culture of
wilderness_ about american expansion westward, and what do i find but a
little blurb about blood quantum laws!  i member we got hooked on this a
while ago, but i can't member if anyone "settled" the issue (if anyone
ever has, and not that i'm gonna...).  so anyway, what the book said was
that in 1887 the american government wanted to acquire more land for
potential lumbering and homesteading, so it passed the indian allotment
act (or something like that).  every indian was given a certain allotment
of land, i can't remember how much, and one had to be able to prove one
was at least half indian before he/she could qualify for land.  actually,
if i remember, only indian men were given land.  so, the upshot of the
process was that during allotment the indians lost a ton because it was
subdivided among the adult male indians, and then whatever was left the
american government basically stole.  so there you have it!

yours,
chris ii

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hey y'all!

i hope this makes every atlantan's (and those of the surrounding vicinities,
too) day!

yes, you read that subject correctly! i read today in the ajc that the ig
will be _playing_ songs from sots and autographing copies of it on april 29
(the *very* day sots is released)!  they are playing at tower records by
lenox starting at 9 p.m.  this is a free event (yippee!).   i called tower
(404-264-1217) to confirm this, and terry (i think his name was) told me it
was indeed true.  he also said capacity is limited to what the store can
hold, but the place is pretty large.  hope to see y'all there!

i found this info in the atlanta journal-constitution (4/8), living, p. 2.

:-d wheeeeeeeee!
erin

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>
>     i just finished reading the 3 (yes 3) articles in newsweek surrounding
>"ellen morgan" coming out on april 30th and ellen degeneres coming out on
>april 23rd on "prime time live".

there is also a really great article in time....in case anyone is interested!

peace
tucker

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subject:      re: m.e. and amy

in a message dated 97-04-08 16:39:55 edt, you write:

<< i don't see it now, in recent
photos, but in the past... >>


i'd have to agree....in recent photos, there is no resemblance whatsoever,
even if you do squint.  but in the past....kinda makes one wonder, don't it?
:)

my .04 (we just had a sales tax increase...up to 9.1%, can you believe
it?!?!?!?)

dawn

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subject:      sots release

i was browsing in the u-district tower records yesterday, and came across
this little piece of paper that said "april new releases."  i immediately
perked up my eyes, and grabbed a copy...but there was no mention whatsoever
of a new ig album.  what gives???  if anybody was gonna carry a new anything,
i'd think it would be tower....

dawn
(listening to burning times for the 18 bazillionth time)

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subject:      offer of boots

o.k. now my turn to return the kindness that i've received from many
listee's.  (hey pj, veronica, nicole, tom!  how y'all doing!)  here goes
nothing!

boot1: ig: hofstra university 3/16/97
       a) shame on you, it's alright, reunion, you & me of the 10,000
          wars, pushing the needle too far, get out the map, shed you
          skin, everything in it's own time, land of canaan, galileo
       b) scooter boys, leeds, don't give that girl a gun, cara mia
          chickenman, prince of darkness, chiapas bound, our purpose
          here(ferron & emily), closer to fine (w/ferron)

boot2: ig: live at decatur square 5/9/87
       a) cold as ice, never stop, holy city, crazy game, love of the
          common people, no way to treat a friend, water is wide
          lifeblood, killing time (mm), strange fire
       b) land of canaan, don't give up on me baby, make this house a
          home, up in smoke, romeo and juliet, history of us,
          love the one your with, peace song, american tune

boot3: ig: emily at decatur boot 198?
       a) it's alright, cara mia, southland in the springtime,
          all i can give you is me, wild horses, closer to fine,
          ghost
       b) michelle malone, rock for aids 2 8-18-96, it's alright es
          ghost, it's alright kh, fade away blind, tuesday song,
          all i can give you is me, closer to fine

boot4: ig: chapel hill, nc, nov 13, 1987
       a) cold as ice, make it easier, lifeblood, pushing the needle
          too far, crazy game, thin line, nashville, left me a fool,
no way to treat a friend, blood and fire
       b) hey jesus, land of canaan, never stop, white house blues,
you left it up to me, strange fire, all along the watchtower

boot5: ig: emory university, decatur, ga, 3/23/89
       a) closer to fine, secure yourself, crazy game, nashville,
summertime, prince of darkness, land of canaan, welcome me
       b) make it easier, hand me downs, blood and fire,
the girl w/the weight of the etc, southland in the springtime
kid fears, cold as ice, white house blues, holy city, sweet home
alabama, blood and fire, love of the common people(cut off)

boot6: ig: got from music for the masses
       live at eddie's attic (decatur, ga 9-93) w/cooper seay
       "down by the river" live in chicago 4-93
       ig @ earth day '94 "galileo"
       ig as guest dj's on radio station 99x in atlanta ga, may9, 94
       ig w/daemon recording artists big fish ensemble
       "don't give up on me"

i'm still trying to obtain a boot of 1) tuesday's children
2)blue food 3) the name escapes me but i'll post again later.
if anyone has a good quality recording of these, please e-mail
me and maybe we can do a tree for the list again.  thanks!
p.s. more boot offers coming soon kittens!

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subject:      in addition to my boot offer

finally remebered what that 3rd boot that i was wondering if anyone
had.  it was color me grey.  thanks! :) jen

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subject:      ellen-- what's so special?  (nigc)

hiya.  first of all, i know this is very likely to cause flames, so just send
them to _me_, not the list.  i hate personal flames on the list.  however, my
question goes to everyone:

     what's so special about ellen?  i've seen it, and to me it looks like just
another average, bland (sorry), not particularly intelligent (sorry) sit-com
along the order of friends.  it's not especially unique  or smart or ground-
breaking.  and when (has she already?) ellen comes out as a character (and in
her "personal" life) it seems to me that it will be a marketing coup. i mean,
everyone already *knows* she gay, right?  seems to me that ellen has used it to
get a whole lot of attention and money, but i think the entertainment world is
as gay-friendly as it gets. in other words, i guess i would understand if this
big deal were due to her doing something really brave, like being the first gay
person on tv, but gay characters are common, as well as actors who are gay.

am i missing something?  it's not that i don't like ellen, i just don't see
what makes her so different from martin, or the single guy or one of the kids
on saved by the bell.  i just want to understand it, because i get lotsa mail
about ellen all the time, and i feel somewhat out of the loop....

              thanx in advance for enlightening me, chris

ps- is she involved in any inportant causes?  maybe that's it....

"so you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts
what's so amazing about really deep thoughts?
boy, you'd best pray that i bleed real soon--
how's that thought for you?"  -tori amos

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greetings to all!

well, rena and i are in the final stages of the artwork/journal book
we created for amy. there are four contributing artists (me, rena,
jean and suzie b. marine).  we have left two pages at the front of
the journal for list members who are going to unh to sign if they
would like.  i was away so i missed some stuff about a list gathering.
if someone could let me know when it will be maybe we could show
the book to everyone then and people could add their words if they
wanted to.  i will probably not be at unh until 6ish, so if y'all are
meeting earlier, maybe we could do it later.  i am hopeful that rena
and i will be able to give it to amy after the show.  if not, we will get
it to sulli, sara or jerry.
    if anyone is interested, please email me so i can have an idea
if people are into this and we can figure out at time and place to do
it.  take care and peace!

-deb

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just got an advance copy of sots from epic today  (complete with a new b&w
promo pic of them photographed by mary ellen mark) and right on the corner
of the cover it is stamped "album release date: april 29, 1997." i have no
doubt that it will indeed be in the stores on that date. on your mark, get
set ....

as for the new cd, after one skeptical listen, through all 12 tracks, i
found myself unable to get any work done all day  as i must have replayed
it 7 or 8 times. . . oh well, if i have to wait more than a year for a new
release, work can certainly wait one day.

jeff

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>>colleen wrote:
     is it just me or are other people getting the impression from their
ownconcert going experiences and from others' reports, that the girls are
having an awful lot of equipment problems?  crappy pianos, smoking
speakers, popping mics, strings breaking with great regularity???  what's
the deal?

catherine wrote:
     well according to the girls, (at bumbershoot, eugene, and perhaps some
others?) amy thinks its "the devil", and emily thinks its "satan".
     do the devil and satan only come out in the pnw?  maybe they're in it
with the aliens? hmm. (snap, crackle, pop) and, oh my god the rice krispies
guys!!!<<

satan at an ig show??????  well i guess even old harry himself (or memnoch
for you anne rice fans out there) must have some musical taste!!!!!  after
all, he used to be an angel according to the legends, and surely he'd like
something to remind him of what it sounds like "up there" when that heavenly
choir gets to goin' - and the only thing i can think of to rival (and in my
opinion, surpass) that sound is our beloved girls.  anybody else with an
opinion on the topic???

peace & harmony,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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subject:      re: *booting*

at 00:57:51 am cathy wrote:

>>if bootlegging concerts is on the up and up, how come we hide our
recorders in private areas and submit to pat-downs at the doors?  maybe we
should stop bootin' concerts and make everyone buy tickets to the actual
show....not!<<

ok, i stand corrected!!!!  : ) <submitting meekly to my 40 lashes with a old
slim jim!!!!>

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at 07:11 pm 4/8/97 edt, chris wrote:
>hiya.  first of all, i know this is very likely to cause flames,
none here... it's just that, well chris, you said:
>     what's so special about ellen?  i've seen it, and to me it looks like just
>another average, bland (sorry), not particularly intelligent (sorry) sit-com
>along the order of friends.  it's not especially unique  or smart or ground-
>breaking.
and see, that's exactly it... she's just average... regular... not scarey or
anything over the top... acceptence... not by hollywood... by the average
every day tv watching american/canadian person... she's a loveable down to
earth not so exceptional person... and she's lesbian.
ummm.. kay, i'm done...
peace... kim ( goddess sometimes... mostly just nuts )

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being cut off to your brain. you'll be dead in less than a minute...
or we could talk..."
- xena, warrior princess.

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subject:      re: giving us a name

we are, most certainly, fortunate ones!

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yanno, i was in that tower on sat. and asked about sots stickers (to see
if they had gotten any by chance) and the guy looked at me like i had
sprouted horns or something.  he couldn't even get past me asking about
ig, i guess even that was too obscure for him, and forget asking about the
new release or the promo materiels that go with it.

on tue, 8 apr 1997, dawn kivisto wrote:

> i was browsing in the u-district tower records yesterday, and came across
> this little piece of paper that said "april new releases."  i immediately
> perked up my eyes, and grabbed a copy...but there was no mention whatsoever
> of a new ig album.  what gives???  if anybody was gonna carry a new anything,
> i'd think it would be tower....
>
> dawn
> (listening to burning times for the 18 bazillionth time)
>
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can anyone tell me an equivalent of tower records?  i.live in pensacola, fl
and we don't have crap here!!!!!!!!  i think i've alredy said only one
station within listening range plays ig, and only late at night  :p

peace & harmony,

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subject:      voting update!!!!  (nigc)

ok folks!!!  here's the tally for today.  of the votes received on 4/8/97:

in favor: 3
opposed: 2

totals for 4/7 and 4/8 are:

in favor: 20
opposed: 6

now, i feel sure in my own mind that there are more than 26 of us on this
list!!!!  so for those of you who havent voted yet:

in favor:  name & e-mail addy to ndygogrrrl@aol.com
opposed: name & e-mail addy to jenterp@aol.com

do not post your vote on the list!!!!!!!!

remember, tomorrow is the last day for votes to be counted!  looks like i'll
post results thurs?  i dont know, i have class until 10pm wed nite so i may
not get to it until thurs or fri.  at any rate, that's that.  rock the
vote!!!!!!!!!   <grin>

peace & harmony,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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hi y'all,
blossom music center tickets for the june 12th ig show go on sale friday
april 18th. $30.50 for all pavilion seats.

anyone interested in having me pick up your ticket/s for you, please
e-mail me privately asap.

also, we are having a list get-to-gether / place to stay at our house,
e-mail if interested.

        see you at indigohio :)

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hey y'all!

this is going to be my last post regarding the b'day card since the day
of silence is tomorrow.  if you have donated to hte for amy's b'day and
you haven't emailed me about being on the list that is going in amy's
card and you would like to be included please let me know asap.  also,
you can still send in your donation to:

honor the earth
c/o greta gohn
po box 502
chimacum, wa 98325

then email me (mandi96@airmail.net) and let me know how much you have
sent in so we can add it to the figure that will be on the "check" we
present to amy.  we are almost at $2000!!!!!  y'all are so freakin
awesome!!!

love,
mandingo

just think, the next time i post will be early friday morning after the
tcu concert, hanging out with all the cool southern listees, and
presenting to amy!

awwww yeah!!!!

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i just saw a segment from larry king live with chastity bono and jerry
falwell (big difference, eh?).  they were talking about the ellen coming
out episode scheduled to air april 30.  jerry was talking about a campaign
with all his religious right buddies to get them to watch the show and
write down all the sponsors so they can contact the sponsors and try to
convince them to stop sponsoring such "trash."  chastity was wonderful in
representing the other side, you should have seen it.

*i* say at least the religious right will be watching the episode.....
maybe the rest of us should write to all the companies who still sponsor
it and thank them, just to put things into balance.  anyway i had not seen
chastity in action before and she was great.  just thought i'd ramble a
little...sorry....

oh also i went to the eugene show and it was my first show and it was
sooooooooogoood  (as y'all have heard)...so i'll keep my comments to
myself, except that i had a post behind me and room to dance so i got to
stand up for the whole show!!!!  i thought i was going to die right there
and y'know what?  it would have been okay.  remember that show where the
girl could freeze time?  i wanted to do that.  okay, i'm going.

oh, i remembered something else i wanted to say....tomorrow my school is
doing the day of silence, does that mean i can't post to the list either?
i won't be speaking???  just kidding i don't think it matters.  anyway i
sent an e-mail to everyone at work (i work in the admissions office) and
my bosses talked to me about their concern that being silent would affect
my job  (yeah right i don't talk to anyone about work, just when i'm
slacking.....)

anyway, that's enough, really i'll quit babbling....
ta ta, fortunate ones (is this necessary!! just kidding, i'm a little
delirious.)

:) marianne <-----who has her own nickname...everyone get their own ig
lyric nickname, i am the lone coyote, so don't even go there!
just kidding aaack don't flame me i'm just delirious!!!

~o~
-=|=-   "you're beautiful, i've seen light dancing around you,
/_\     and the clouds move aside so you can look at the moon."
((                     --lisa zeiler (rebecca riots)

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subject:      cures for insomnia? (nigc)

i have been having major difficulties with my sleeping (which leads to
problems with everything else).  anyone have any suggestions to help me
fall asleep?  i've tried fare thee well, left me a fool, tylenol pm
(which leaves me not functioning the next day), incense...
help!

also, is their anyone out their who will do a tape trade with me, i
really would like to get the study hall boot and/or tuesdays children.
i have 12 ig boots (which i'm sure you have already), a couple ani
difranco, a tori amos, a bunch of grateful dead, and a couple rusted
root.  please!!!!
leah

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subject:      philly show

hi to everybody new and old.  i just resubscribed after hearing of the
new release and the concert scheduled for may 30 at the mann music center
in philly.  is anybody out there planning on going to this concert?
any list get-together planned?  all of my ig-loving friends have moved
away, so i will be going alone and would like to meet up with someone
if possible.  a+e=ig

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i know this is an almost usless attempt, but...

i am looking to start trading tapes... i would like any ig tape... just one.
the only thing i have to offer is a couple of rusted root shows.  was hoping
there might be some giving soul out there, willing to help out a fan trying
to get her foot in the door...  any help would be much appreciated!

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subject:      eug.photo offer closed:(

     sorry folks... we knew it was only a matter of time before this
happened!  i'm officially swamped.  if you mailed me before this posts yer
ok, and probably have already gotten a reply from me.  thanks, catherine

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new englanders prepare...the great woods list is out and ig are playing
great woods on june 6 (no word on the news about ticket on sale
dates).

i might not be able to go... waaaahhhh...it's the weekend of boston
gay pride and i may be committed to going to those events.

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
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subject:      itty bitty question....

okay, this may be just a dumb question, but does anyone have any idea how
tall amy is? just wondering..... ~<3~ kylie

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in a message dated 97-04-08 18:48:04 edt, you write:

<< > we are (drumroll please):
>   the indigonads

you have your indigonads, greg, and i have my indigovaries... :)

-sheri, feels like a day for my indigo-colored tie-dyes :)
  >>
i have to compliment sheri on this one...it was one thing that brightened my
day.

mindala

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okay y'all, new figures.

so far the list has raised

one thousand nine hundred and seventy seven dollars for hte!!!!

keep those donations coming!!!!

love,
mandi

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amy j. putnam wrote:
>
> new englanders prepare...the great woods list is out and ig are playing
> great woods on june 6 (no word on the news about ticket on sale
> dates).
>
> i might not be able to go... waaaahhhh...it's the weekend of boston
> gay pride and i may be committed to going to those events.
>
>the tickets go on sale april 10 at 7 pm.

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  sounds good! i should be getting tickets to the show so see ya there!
  anyone else wanna get together before/after the concert?
ben

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hey y'all!
i'm new to this list (about 3 weeks now) and my first post, and have
enjoyed reading/following all this conversation about the naming thing.  i
think that, greg, this is by far the best (aka funniest) name so far!
indigonads! ha! absolutely hilarlious.  i hope no one takes offense to
this, but if so, please re-read this when you are in a good mood, and
you'll know that it is very (innocently) funny!.  (btw, i just finished
listening to a vinyl of the stray cats, and maybe that's why i'm in such a
good mood.
for those who are still reading, i just also wanted to say that the eugene
concert was my first ig concert, and i had so much fun, even though i
believe the guard at the secret backstage entrance told me a falsehood
about the girls having left immediately after the concert to catch a
plane (at 11:30 at night in a small town...what was i thinking!). being
the trustful (ok maybe naive) person that i am, i believed him and
persisted no longer....now i'm :( that i didn't try harder.  it was rather
exciting to watch amy and her enthusiasm for her strumming.  i had a good
feeling that they were in a good mood, i think because the audience
enjoyed the new songs so much, and were respectful during them.  in any
case, i can't wait for the boot...and i pray that it surfaces soon!eh,
hum! :)
thanks for the space and the great ig interaction.  ps if any of you
striving arstists out there would like to share your work, i'd love to
hear it!  (i don't have any connections, btw.)
god bless y'all!
seona  (that's sounds exactly the way it's spelled).


on tue, 8 apr 1997, greg flamer wrote:

> i have the answer so just stop all your voting and debating now.
>
> we are (drumroll please):
>
>
>
>
>
> the indigonads
>
> i feel proud, don't you?  to bed....
>
>
> !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&
> # greg m. flamer      gflame@nwu.edu  %
> $ 535 w briar pl #556                 *
> & chicago, il  60657                  &
> ^                                     )
> # "if you have to saddle your high    )
> &  horse go on and ride out           *
> $  of my sight"--indigo girls         ?
> !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*&
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hey kind friends~

        (this is an open letter to claire johnson, anjeanette milner &
marianne barlow :)
        miss binky, your tapes are awesome --- just like you!  i just may
have to start a fan club for you! ;o  the postal service only took 22 days
to deliver your package, but it was worth every bit of the wait! :)
        anj darling, you look *fabulous*!!!! :)  if i were in boston i'd be
knockin' down your door for a date!!!!!!  (bostonians take notice ;)
        marianne (the lone coyote :) ....you're badass and we all know it! ;)

knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door....

the poultry dude~

proud founder of yknib ssim fan club!

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       "and it's a lot of stuff..."                    r
i        - ar referring to the carnage highway...       l
g                                                       s
o

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so who all is going to this????? i'm skipping classes anddriving 7
hrs for it - anyone else??  mail me!! gossett@centre.edu
cindy gossett

> date:          tue, 8 apr 1997 17:49:29 -0400
> reply-to:      e r i n b r o w n <tracy1@mindspring.com>
> from:          e r i n b r o w n <tracy1@mindspring.com>
> subject:       igc: ig in atlanta on april 29!
> to:            indigo-girls@netspace.org

> hey y'all!
>
> i hope this makes every atlantan's (and those of the surrounding vicinities,
> too) day!
>
> yes, you read that subject correctly! i read today in the ajc that the ig
> will be _playing_ songs from sots and autographing copies of it on april 29
> (the *very* day sots is released)!  they are playing at tower records by
> lenox starting at 9 p.m.  this is a free event (yippee!).   i called tower
> (404-264-1217) to confirm this, and terry (i think his name was) told me it
> was indeed true.  he also said capacity is limited to what the store can
> hold, but the place is pretty large.  hope to see y'all there!
>
> i found this info in the atlanta journal-constitution (4/8), living, p. 2.
>
> :-d wheeeeeeeee!
> erin
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          __  _-==-=_,-.
         /--'' \_@~@.--<     the wonderful thing about tiggers
         '--'\ \  <___/.     is tiggers are wonderful things.
              \ \\   " /     their tops are made out of rubber
               >=\\_/'<      their bottoms are made out of springs.
   ____       /= |  \_/      they're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy,
_'    '\   _/=== \__/       fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
'___/ //\./=/~\====\        but the wonderful thing about tiggers is
     \   // /   | ===|       i'm the only one!!!      =)
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           _>    \ ===\    /==/
          /==\   |  ===\__/--/
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subject:      sots..and late night thoughts

it looks like you can pre-order "shaming of the sun" and the limited edition
"shaming the sun" each for $14.96 from cdnow (http://www3.cdnow.com).  i
don't know how the limited edition is different from the regular one -
anyone?  of course ordering it thru the mail will cause a delay.  i just
might do it for the limited edition though.

now....as to how people on the list identify themselves.  my thought is there
will be no consensus reached and everyone will continue to call the list and
themselves whatever it is they want to.  although i thought the 'fandigos'
name was kinda cute.

also....when someone has a question about tours etc....maybe they can include
a question mark in their subject line ? - just a thought.  i'll see the
subject line....
tour dates....rush to read the mail...only to find out someone is requesting
tour info...::sigh::::

it seems as if the bootlegging controversy concerning sots has died
down...whew.
my first thought is that anyone who is lucky enough to get a tape of
it......lucky you!
i can't imagine anyone on the list getting a cassette copy not rushing out
and buying the cd on april 29th.  so i agree in principle that cd's should
not be copied...but
if someone gets an advance copy it shouldn't be a problem as long as they get
in line with the rest of us on april 29th :-)

okay.....this insomnia is killing me....maybe i better take another excedrin
pm.

rose

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rose west wrote:
>
> it looks like you can pre-order "shaming of the sun" and the limited edition
> "shaming the sun" each for $14.96 from cdnow (http://www3.cdnow.com).  i
> don't know how the limited edition is different from the regular one -
> anyone?  of course ordering it thru the mail will cause a delay.  i just
> might do it for the limited edition though.


when i saw this at cdnow i read the advanced order information.  if you
place your order for any new release by the friday before the tuesday it
comes out and choose fedex shipping, you'll get the cd on that tuesday.

as far as the "limited edition" thingy.  i posted the same question
about regular and limited editions and someone had said that it was
probably like so.  one is a jewel case and one is that furry cardboard
stuff.


that's all i got,
scott
crispian@writeme.com

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at 08:31 pm 4/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>new englanders prepare...the great woods list is out and ig are playing
>great woods on june 6 (no word on the news about ticket on sale
>dates).
>

(writing it in my calendar right now...)

>i might not be able to go... waaaahhhh...it's the weekend of boston
>gay pride and i may be committed to going to those events.
>


there is a pay per view special as well, but i hope you can make it if time
permits...can you or someone let people in the tundra know when gw tixs go
onsale. i finally saw a show last year with good seats, and it changed my
opinion of the venue...


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hey y'all!  sorry to the igboston contingent which has prolly already read
this, but because someone posted this info to the big list, i thought i'd
do the same....

have a good one y'all....joni :o) [harmony]

>ok, here's some info....great woods has a web page which is really
>cool...when you find out your seat, you click on "where's my seat" and
>they'll show you a picture of the stage from the point of view where your
>seat is.
>
>here's the url:  http://www.greatwoods.com/
>
>and here's some info i just cut and pasted from the web page on tix
>availability.
>
>indigo girls
>       special guest ulali
>       june 6, 7:30 pm
>       $28.50 shed; $18.50 lawn
>       on sale april 10 at 7 pm
>
>the great woods box office will not be open until may 14.
>
>       the great woods box office is open monday through saturday from
>1:00 pm to 5:30 pm. on days of performances tickets can be purchased from
>1:00 pm to 1 hour after the event start time. the box office is closed
>sundays and holidays of non performance days. schedule information is
>available by calling (508)        339-2333. great woods recommends you
>call 617-423-next, any time 24 hours a day. you can pay with your credit
>card or by check. tickets are also available by calling 617-423-6000, or
>at select newbury comic locations, as well as strawberries in framingham.
>
>               dial (617) 423-next
>
>               next recommends this method.
>
>               use your touchtone telephone to purchase concert tickets 24
>hours a day, 7 days a week. next's interactive telephone system is the
>fastest, most convenient way to purchase tickets quickly and easily using
>your touch tone telephone.
>
>               dial (617) 423-6000
>               a next sales representative is available to accept your
>order during operating hours
>
>               next outlets
>
>                                  select newbury comics
>
>                                         newbury street
>                                         burlington
>                                         braintree
>                                         saugus
>                                         shrewsbury
>                                         nashua, nh
>                                         warwick, ri
>
>
>
>                             select strawberries
>
>                             framingham
>
>                      venue box offices during operating hours.
>                      orpheum theatre
>                      great woods (in season)
>

joni  :o)

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subject:      re: indigo girls at great woods
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hi all,
i just called 617-423-next and found out tix for ih @ great woods go on sale
thursday april 10 at 7 pm.
they're also available at select newbury comics store (cash only).  call
first-not every newbury comics sells tickets.
good luck!
rena

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hey, hey! they have finally announced the show on the 24th of may in
atlanta at chastain. i just got off the phone with ticketmaster.  since
the show on the 23rd is now sold out they will be selling the tickets for
the 24th starting this ** saturday 12 noon.  thanks to everyone who
responded to my earlier message for info on this concert.  and score one
up for the person who told me they would do it this way.

**gleeming with excitement**
(expecially since i recieved the soy single yesterday!)
dimestore

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subject:      m.e. and amy

just my own ancedote:
i have a friend that swears to this day that she saw "one of the
indigo girls" in concert back in 88....(actually she saw m.e.) ...i
still laugh about this one

forever indigo,
cathy

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ok, i've patiently waiting for concert dates to pop up, because i really am
dying to see ig on this tour in the research triangle area of nc.  since
i've been here (4 years) they haven't been here once!  what's up with that?
is there rhyme or reason to their shows; if we've done something here to
offend them, i'd like to know and fix it!

it looks like there's not enough time between atlanta and richmond to have a
show here, and i'm officially depressed about that.  is there any hope for
me this tour (to those who know these things)?

signed
now-i-wish-i-*were*-a-yankee-'cause-at-least-i'd-get-to-see-them,
jessica

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subject:      atlanta may 24 - ticket info

howdy (insert your favorite list name here),

just wanted to let ya'll know that tickets for the 5/24 show at chastain park
will go on sale saturday, april 12 @ 12:00pm through ticketmaster,
404-249-6400.

hope this info brightens the day of anyone who either did not get tix for the
5/23 show, or, like myself, just found out that they will not be able to get
the time off from work to go and has to sell her/his tix.

happy dialing,
eileen

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hi guys--

i am freaking out butecause i just found out that the girls are going to
be in kettering, oh on june 13 at the fraze pavillion.  i saw them there
oin '94 on the so tour, and it was great.  question:  does anybody know
when tix go on sale?

thanks,
amy k

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subject:      lillith festival and other assorted ramblings

hullo,
to all you people who seem to know these things.  is it confirmed that ig are
playing at the lillith festival, in toronto on august 15-16.  i'm sorry if
this has already been answered but i couldn't keep up with all the crazy
digests from the last week and got kinda delete happy.

courtesy of sundara, i received the most fantabulous mapped boot. now, i was
thinking that it seems like their big "coming out" album.  i know they were
out before, to friends, family, most big fans and to gay press, but
'mainstream' (i use this term very loosely) media hadn't really acknowledged
them as lesbians.  and unless i'm mistaken, there hadn't been much in their
songs that identified their sexuality. (a bit in 1200c, and they were
mentioned on ellen, i guess) i figured that this was because they wrote about
life and love.  and love is love, doesn't matter if it's between a man and a
woman, two women, two men.  but they definately come out in this album, nobody
can miss it.  does anyone have any thoughts on this, why they decided to use
the pronouns and out themselves?  if this was a thread before, and i missed it.
  i apologize. you can just ignore this post, or tell me i'm a moron, (
privately of course)  anywho, that's about all i have to say now.  ciao

patricia


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so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen?
does it sing like the hymns of a thousand years,
or is just pop emotion?
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subject:      lilith festival - tour dates (nigc)

hi friends (you already know you're kind...),

since i've been delete happy lately, i know i missed a post or two - anyone
know tour dates and artists for this most anticipated event?....

peace karen

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the following info is all i know:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
all dates are subject to change                                   04/02/97
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date city/st             venue                                   codes
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04/04 eugene or           hult center's silva theatre, u of oregon  s
04/09 tulsa ok            expo square pavillion, u of tulsa         c
04/10 fort worth tx       will rogers aud. texus christian u        c
04/12 durham nh           whittemore center u. of new hampshire     c2
04/13 waterville me       wadsworth fieldhouse, colby college       c2
04/15 university park pa  recreation hall, penn state               c2
04/16 norton ma           outdoor quad, wheaton college             c2
04/19 philadelphia pa     mccarthy stad., lasalle u                 c2
04/20 washington d.c.     bender arena, american u                  c*2
04/25 auburn al           beard eaves memorial col., auburn         c

05/23 atlanta ga          chastain park ampitheatre                 c
05/24 "        "          "                       "                 c
05/27 richmond va         classic ampitheatre, va state fair        c
05/28 vienna va           wolf trap                                 c
05/29 "       "           "        "                                c
05/30 philadelphia pa     mann music center stadium                 c
05/31 hartford ct         meadows music theatre                     c

06/05 holmdel nj          pnc bank arts center                      c
06/06 mansfield ma        great woods                               c
06/07 saratoga springs ny saratoga performing arts center           c
06/10 canandaigua ny      ?                                         u
06/12 cuyahoga falls oh   blossom music center                      c
06/13 kettering oh        fraze pavilion                            c
06/14 clarkston mi        pine knob music theatre                   c

(7/1  san diego, ca        summer pops bowl                         ?)
7/2  los angeles, ca      greek theatre                             c
(7/5  san francisco, ca    shorline ampitheatre or greek theatre    ?)


opening acts
1. ferron
2. lift

     _________________________________________________________________

codes c=confirmed date through monterey peninsula artists
        (mpa) (4/02/97)
      c=dates shown in the fan club mailing or gathered from
        other sources but not confirmed with mpa as of 4/02/97
      u=unconfirmed date
      s=sold out (if anyone knows which ones are please write me)
      *=private concert...student/faculty/staff only

all other info compiled from independant resources
be sure to contact venues or ticketing agencies to verify dates and
ticket sales.

special thanks to the following for additional info
dena (denakohl@aol.com)
deb (debbie@mei.com)
vic (indigovic@aol.com)
karen (kvittek@gladstone.uoregon.edu)
lorinda (wright@biodec.wustl.edu)
nancy (nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com)

check the following websites for further info
sony/epic          : www.sony.dreammedia.com/epiccenter/docs
                    /artistupdate.qry?artistid=83
pollstar           : www.pollstar.com
ticket master      : www.ticketmaster.com
ultimate bands list: www.ubl.com

*free distribution of this list is welcome but please credit author
(indigo@crl.com)*


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in a message dated 97-04-09 09:50:43 edt, rgcs1123@aol.com writes:

<< i just called 617-423-next and found out tix for ih @ great woods go on
sale
thursday april 10 at 7 pm.
>>
silly me...i was in a hurry.
of course, it's ig, not ih.
so sorry,
rena

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>the indigonads
>
>i feel proud, don't you?
yeah...

indigonads...i like that and it is generic, referring both to the male
and female variety.
(tho i have a soft spot in my heart for barkin' dogs and median cats)

marilyn
ssim yknib naf bulc)charter member and official yknib-like mascot..woof

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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just found out i have to go to the orthopedic surgery dept of the
universtity in yer fine town next wed....i need some diretions...anyone
know????
e-mail me privato please

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subject:      milwaukee tour dates??

any "fandigos" out there from milwaukee, wi?  i am looking to find out when
the girls will be in wisconsin (i'm keeping my fingers crossed for the
riverside theater in milwaukee).

anyone with any information, please e-mail me personally.

teddi

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  to have the things that mean the most
  not to mean the things i miss..."

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subject:      offer of boot closed temporarily

hello lovelys,
got swamped with way too many offers already so the boot offer is
closed for now until i catch up with things.  when i reopen the offer
in another week and a half, i'll be smart about it and set up a tree.
to those who i've already receieved e-mail from, i'll be sending you
info soon.  jen :)

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ig is playing our spring fling on 4/18, as maybe you've heard, but it's
not open to the public.  however, if you know somebody who goes to
lasalle, you give them $10 and they can get you a ticket.  my point
being that i go to lasalle and would be more than happy to hook anyone
up who is interested.  i'd much rather have the crowd be filled with
actual ig fans than countless drunk frat guys who only know them as "a
couple of dykes".  yes, that is a direct quote.  anyway, tickets are only
on sale for a little while longer, so email me privately if you want to
go.
-anna

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hi, all,

wow, it's taken me until today to get all caught up on thangs enough
to post!

people have already posted about the show itself alot, so i don't have
much to add.  yes, that was hand me downs, not ttbt ... yeah that was
a guy handing guitars to amy, but i've never seen sully (and known it)
so i don't know if she was the woman handing guitars, etc. to emily
was her or not ... ferron started the "spaceship" thing by saying the
hult center looked like something from star trek ... did i mention yet
that ferron was *amazing*? gotta find some of her stuff!  anyone got
boots?  what are her best albums?

my big thing about the show itself was that unlike the last time i
saw them (a sunday afternoon at the berkeley greek on so tour, standing
about 10 feet from amy's knees), they seemed larger than life, rather
than just plain folks with cool songs.  i mean, it was impressive, and
intense, but somehow a little off-putting at the same time.  am i
spoiled?  was it just seeing them from half a hall away in the spotlights
instead of up close in the sunshine?  have they been developing their
stage presence?  amy in particular had an entirely different energy to
me.  i mean, she was intense both times, but in different ways.  on so
tour, i thought she was more rough and raw.  the other night, hmmm, how
do i describe it ... through every song, she was undulating to the music
in a very hypnotic way, full of both sexual and spiritual power.  it
seemed very ritualistic to me.  of course it was interrupted several times
when she broke strings, and then she seemed more like how i remembered.
all in all, they both came across as more powerful, but less personal.  a
mixed thing for me.

and yes, i'm dying to see them again soon!  i hope they play at the greek
again, not shoreline!  i saw them at shoreline at the bridge school
benefit a few years ago, and it's just not the same from the back seats,
much less the lawn.

it was fantastic to meet so many listers!  first of all, catherine (she
of the right hand and the amy hand :-) ) and shila offered me a place to
stay after i posted a request about where i could camp out, even though
we had never exchanged even a hello before.  and they're both *such*
*sweethearts*!!!  they took my friend (have you joined the list yet,
karen?) and i over to a couple of friends' house before the show, and in
general were amazing hostesses.  i also got to meet a few listers briefly
before the show - let's see, my memory of this is kind of a blur - there
was miss binky, sundara, marianne, mediamongr (whose real name is escaping
me at the moment), greta ... more folks whose faces i know but i forget
which one goes with what name, including one who remembered about my orange
longhaired cat teddy that i posted about once last year (as you can see,
my memory isn't as good as hers :-) ), and the programmer from seattle who
keeps bumping into emily, (is audrey the name?) who i met at breakfast
at the ll market with catherine and shil and a few others from the night
before.  unfortunately, i didn't get to spend more time with everyone
and get to know y'all better, but if any of you can make it down for
the sf show in july, let's have a real party!

hope y'all have an indigo day!
tom

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hey, i accidentally deleted the messages about the concert at great woods
on june 6th (which just so happens to be my birthday!  quelle coinkydink!)...
i know they go on sale tomorrow...but at what time?!?  you can email
privately if you like....

also, if anyone has any info on some ig appearances on talkshows or anything,
could someone email that to the list?  i see a lot of people asking and saying
to email that info. privately, but i'm sure that there are a lot of people
who would really like to know....
(but maybe it's just me...)

oh, and have any of you heard of two guy accoustic folk singers named
chris and johnny?!?  a friend of mine recently dubbed a cd of theirs for
me, and they're amazing.......sort of like a young sounding simon and garfunkel
or something...just curious...
lesley

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sheri sez:
> in a message dated 97-04-08 10:14:13 edt, gflame@nwu.edu (greg flamer)
> writes:
> > we are (drumroll please):
> >   the indigonads
> you have your indigonads, greg, and i have my indigovaries... :)

rotflmao!

"indigonads" is non-gender-specific. "indigovaries" sounds pretty cool,
too, but it doesn't apply to all of us.

but i'd rather just be called an "ig fan" than any of these names bouncing
around, even if some are cute/clever. ymmv.

just my .02
tom

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hi!
i am from australia and i have only recently discovered the indigo girls -
a friend lent me some cds and now i'm hooked on their music. i would like
to get a poster of the indigo girls for my friend - does anyone know a web
site where one can be purchased or alternatively the address of a store
that might sell these that i can write to. does the indigo girls fan club
sell posters?
any information would be greatly appreciated. it seems that many australian
stores have yet to learn about the musical talent called the indigo girls

jenny
jennys@hunterlink.net.au

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subject:      re: euuugeeene (and some kmtt throw in for fun)

claire bun bun wrote:

>now sundara's section was a different story all together....but
>i wont even go there <g>.....

alrighty, sundara, the slack ass emailer, finally is responding to this.
okay,  i know eugene was a ways ago, but i'm just now getting back to my
email.  don't blame me, blame the cute girl who keeps distracting me.
hee hoo.

emily rocks my world.  i think i might be bi-indigo. i've always been a
diehard amy person, but my goodness,  that woman.  my goddess.  cara mia
and leeds almost made me cry.  so powerful.  emily is a goddess.

and, my other thought (and please don't let this turn into a dumb sitting
vs standing vs dancing in the aisles thread)  the hult center was lame.
i wanted to dance my cute little ass off.  i could barely contain myself
to my seat cause i was just itching to dance, and it sucked.  i think
sitting at an ig concert and not dancing is blasphemy  (just
kidding--sort of :)

oh well, i danced as much as the people behind me would let me, and me,
greta, and betsy were right in front of emily, and since we were
standing, and everyone in front of us was sitting, she smiled at us tons,
and i felt like she appreciated our enthusiasm.  but, that's just my
opinion in a big run-on sentence.  and of course, this experience just
adds to my new-found love of emily

okay, the kmtt tape, i'm working on setting up a tape tree.  so, if i
haven't gotten back to you about it, be patient, i think there is gonna
be a cool-ass tape tree set up with the broadcast  and maybe a surprise
on it, so hold yer horses.

love,
sundara<-- who does not think a few of us should label the rest of us,
although, if y'all are going to, she thinks indigonads is toooo funny

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date:         wed, 9 apr 1997 16:58:48 -0500
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linda m. mcdaniel
04/08/97 02:06 pm

to:   indigo-girls @ netspace.org @ internet
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subject:  help

i'm a brand new internet and e-mail user.  i am sending this from where i
work and can't really call the help desk for help.  i am trying to suscribe
to indigo girls mailing list, and seem to be doing something wrong -
because i keep getting a message back saying "user unknown".  can anyone
help?

thanks from a big fan.

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i was gonna be selfish and keep this to myself, but too many people
started talking about it, so here the answer i got when i e-mailed music
blvd. about the difference between the limited edition and the
regular.....

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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date: sun, 06 apr 97 12:47:25 est
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          thank you for your interest in music boulevard.

          one is a shorter version, the other is a longer version.
          both are scheduled for release on 4/29/97.

          if you have any further questions, please contact us.

          sincerely,

          charmaine
          service@musicblvd.com
          1-800-99music or 610-293-4793
          610-293-3256 (fax)
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i've been calling everywhere and can't find any ticket infofor saratoga
springs, i've been so busy planning a trip to ohio that i was afraid i
missed ticket sales, but i guess i didn't.  if anyone has info for the
saratoga springs show on june 7th please let me know, i'm relativly close
and really want to go...
thanks

kate

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date:         wed, 9 apr 1997 17:20:53 -0400
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anyone think the great woods date and boston pride seem to be a bit *too*
coincidential....since pride usually has a show at the shell or something?
i have heard boston  pride was really cool,(from an ex marine friend who
*stumbled into the festivities years or two ago, he was kinda taken aback
by the drag queen scene but i would have been too)

just a possibility, you never know -- but why would they postpone a show
from 5/31 in hartford to 6/6 in mansfield when the two venues are two hours
away from each other???


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i have had a copy of swamp ophelia since its release, one of the green lp's
that were autographed and i am trying to figure out the best way to display
it.  in case you aren't familiar with it, it is autographed on the back of
the label, that is the label is on one side, blank on the other--with the
ig's auto's on the blank side.

i would like to display it, but haven't figure out a good way to do it.
any suggestions?  i would like to be able to see the autographs, but then
the label is absent.  any thoughts or suggestions would be much
appreciated.

the lp just sits around collecting dust.  i have so on cd, so the album has
never been listened to.

thanks in advance,


mike


--who's waiting patiently for this weekends shows!!!!!!!!!!:-)

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department of spatial information engineering
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subject:      shame on you on wrnx 100.9 in springfield ma

hello to all in the land of indigo!!!

what a great way to start the day.  i got in my car to warm it
up on my way to work, happened to turn on the radio, and
shame on you just started.  it totally rocks!!!!

i love the banjos, sirens, electric guitars and amy's laugh at
the beautiful ladies line.  i can't wait for sots!!!!  i can't wait
to see them sat at unh!!!

does anyone know when the single will be out?
i would think it would be soon.

take care and peace!

-deb

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hi! could anybody tell me when (and where) the tickets will go on sale
for the june 7th show at the saratoga performing arts center? i feel
guilty enough about not being able to see them at the very small (and
excellent venue, i might add) school that i graduated from (wheaton) and
can't miss out on this concert.
any info. would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!
-christine
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the day of silence has ended on the east coast.  i observed it in spirit,
if not to the letter, and i spent a lot of time thinking about words and
communication and silence.  i feel incredibly lucky not only that i can
speak, and speak about whatever's on my mind, but also that i have
forums like this list where my voice is actually listened to and that i
am able to use the web to make my words and ideas available to the entire
world.  that's powerful stuff.

how much power?...the listee site just reached its one thousanth hit
today...it's only been up for a month.  and my own site has gotten a lot
more visitors lately thanks to many of you.  don't think you need to make
it big before you can be heard.  if you have something to say, speak
out, and you will find your audience.  speech is protected now like it
has never been before...the world isn't perfect but it's important to use
our voices, both for ourselves and for those who can't yet speak out.

thank you for listening,
audrey


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just thought you all might like to know that the ig concert at wheaton
college is in the haas athletic center- not an outdoor "quad" as
officially (or not so officially) stated... so don't plan on standing in
the rain or snow, people! it is inside!.. btw, anyone here going to be
there? i'm on campus myself, so... okie dokie...

later,
        britt

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i know, i know..enough already about the psu show. but i have two quick
questions before i run off into my world of term papers and finals...
(yes, they're starting soon...god save the queen)
one...who else is going? i know renee is...but who else?
two...are we planning any form of a meeting before the show? just to kind
of say a quick hello or something?
and three...where are everyone's eats? i'm in section s2, row j, or
something like that, and i have no idea if that's near anything, pr
anyone...help!!!!


meg

*all my innocence is wasted on the dead and dreaming*

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subject:      re: indigo-girls digest - 9 apr 1997 - special issue

>date city/st             venue
>(7/1  san diego, ca        summer pops bowl

mmmm!  i reckon there's no better breakfast than a big bowl of them
summer pops!
they's tasty!

-vic.

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hey everyone,

i've finally finished adding up all the outstanding
entries for the indigo girls fan survey, which means
that it's now up to date.  here's a quick summary of
a few of the results:

===
*** igc section ***
- favourite albums:
        1. 1200 curfews - 128
        2. rites of passage - 116
        3. swamp ophelia - 88
        4. indigo girls, nomads indians saints - 70
        5. strange fire - 55

- "top 10" favourite songs:
        1. ghost - 72
        2. galileo - 53
        3. least complicated - 50
        4. closer to fine - 47
        5. power of two - 40
        6. mystery - 37
        7. watershed - 35
        8. love will come to you - 33
        9. chickenman - 32
        10. dead man's hill, love's recovery - 28
[9 emily songs, 2 amy songs... sheesh. :) ]

- "top 10" amy songs:
        1. chickenman - 39
        2. blood and fire - 35
        3. dead man's hill - 32
        4. fugitive - 31
        5. reunion - 26
        6. strange fire, world falls - 24
        8. hand me downs, joking - 23
        10. touch me fall - 21

- "top 10" emily songs:
        1. ghost - 81
        2. least complicated - 42
        3. mystery - 40
        4. love will come to you - 33
        5. galileo - 32
        6. language or the kiss, watershed - 31
        8. closer to fine - 28
        9. love's recovery, the wood song - 27

- "top 5" covers / other songs:
        1. tangled up in blue - 64
        2. romeo and juliet - 40
        3. down by the river - 30
        4. midnight train to georgia - 29
        5. thin line - 25

- "top 5" least favourite songs:
        1. airplane - 40
        2. chickenman - 28
        3. 1 2 3 - 22
        4. history of us - 14
        5. southland in the springtime, touch me fall - 13

*** nigc section ***
- sex:
        - male - 41
        - female - 167

- sexual orientation:
        - gay men - 5
        - gay women - 58
        - bisexual men - 3
        - bisexual women - 23
        - straight men - 32
        - straight women - 72

- age:
        - under 18 - 31
        - 18-21 - 81
        - 22-25 - 38
        - 26-30 - 26
        - 31-40 - 26
        - 41-50 - 5
        - over 50 - 1

- "top 10" other favourite artists:
        1. melissa etheridge - 75
        2. ani difranco - 46
        3. sarah mclachlan - 38
        4. dar williams - 36
        5. tori amos - 34
        6. tracy chapman - 33
        7. k.d. lang, rem - 30
        9. mary chapin carpenter - 23
        10. shawn colvin - 21
===

well, that's it.  if you want to see the full set of
results, you can find them at
http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/igsurvey.  the survey is
closed for the moment but i'll be starting it up again
around june, after we've all had a chance to formulate
opinions on the new album.

happy happy everyone,
sherlyn

ps - does anyone have a set of boots from the new shows
(ie boots from at least two of the shows) and want to set
up a trade?  i prefer to do multi-tape deals rather than
single-tape trades, it works out cheaper that way.  let
me know...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"it's funny how the world lives up to all your expectations,
with adventures for the stout of heart
and the lure of the open spaces..." - mary chapin carpenter

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howdy to those who know me...i just got back on after a long hiatus from the
list.  [hugs] anyway, i had a very similar experience to deb's, except i
heard soy today on kpft 91.7 here in houston...on world cafe, actually.  i
immediately turned the stereo up to 9...my favorite ig songs are always the
ones that sound good loud...and sang along, which was probably a violation
of my day of silence vow, but oh well.  i love this version of the
song--different from how it sounded in concert, but still very passionate.
anybody else think the "1694" part is similar in perspective to ani's "yes
sir, so far" in "every state line"?  amy laughing about the beautiful women
is great, and hearing the girls bleeped on the radio is very funny somehow.
anyway, peace and indigo to all!
amanda c. goad
rice pride/rice college bowl/sid women's football/fondren govpubs
*shameless* cd plug: _living in clip_, ani difranco, in stores 22 april 1997
"you got your whole life to do something / and that's not very long..." -- ad

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at 11:59 pm 4/8/97 +0000, someone wrote:

>we are, most certainly, fortunate ones!

that is the only name i agree with.  i do
feel fortunate to have found their music so
early on.  i also feel fortunate that they
always remember me when i see them.  i'm
fortunate for the casual friendship i've
had with them over the years.

we really are "fortunate ones".  i suppose
we could also call ourselves, "intimate strangers"
which, in a way, we are too.

tt

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okay, i dialed the 800 number to music blvd and the young lady that
answered was very helpful.. she said she had no idea what the difference
between the two cds was but she gave me a new york number to call sony
and ask them...which i have no intenton of calling, my interest is not
that great, but i thought maybe some of our new york people might call
and see what's up...the number is 212-833-8000

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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subject:      i'm only guessing, but....

so, according to all the posts with west concert info. in them
(as well as what folks say they heard our girls or different
radio stations suggest...)...

if the girls are:

> (7/1 san diego, ca summer pops bowl ?) 7/2 los angeles, ca greek
> theatre c (7/5 san francisco, ca shorline ampitheatre or greek
> theatre

and if (as folks have said they have announced) they do a show in
medford and one in portland, my guess is that seattle will get
shows on july 8, 9,10--or, if i were an indigo girl, i'd guess that
i'd want a day off somewhere in that week, and so it might be
july 9,10,11
(ann hopes it's 9,10 & 11 because the 11th would be the only show
she could go to).

remember folks, i'm just guessing.  i'm not into starting any false
rumors here or anything (but if this turns out to be even close to
correct i'll be doing my "email yesssssss victory dance."

just warnin' ya.  and no, i don't have any inside info.  i'm not that
connected.

still guessing,

ann

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  me, myself.. i see no resemblence whatsoever.....   but if you all say so..
anyway...  maybe melissa and amy are the same person... you never
see them together do you????  =)      although, somehow, i don't see
amy putting on that frilly shirt and dying her hair blonde for
the never enough cd cover do you?

as for a list name... i think it should be called:

igc    (........... cuz we're all just full of it :)


-trinket
(who knows a & e are getting ready to take the stage in tulsa, a mere
5 hours away, and i couldn't go.....)


trinket@flinthills.com

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the following is a review from 4-front magazine
based in west hollywood, california.

tt


*****

indigo girls:   "shaming of the sun"
                epic records

in this, their sixth studio release for epic records, the
indigo girls (amy ray and emily saliers)  push the envelope
with more of an electric sound than their previous efforts.
three years earlier, on the 1994 platinum release swamp ophelia,
we were given "touch me fall" an electric song punctuated by a
string section.  that should have been the first clue that the
indigo girls were getting restless and ready to branch out a bit.

on their new release, "shaming of the sun" we get not only electric
guitars but banjos, bouzoukis, mandolins and even a native american
vocal ensemble.  this disc is without a doubt their most ambitious
effort to date.  some of the musical textures on this disc not only
reminded me of the beatles "sgt. pepper" but of pink floyds "the wall"
as well.

the disc is not extreme, by any means, it just has a sound all its
own.  it doesn't sound like the indigo girls but you know it is.
this is the first studio album that the duo helped produce and it sounds
like they were definitely having fun in studio and not afraid to try
different and new things.

of the twelve tracks on this disc, seven are electric, starting with
the kick off tune and first single, "shame on you".  the following
track "get out the map" is laced with banjos while "shed your skin"
starts off  with a funky hip-hop beat.  there is even a gay anthem,
of sorts, with the tune "it's alright", which speaks of tolerance
and the strength of believing in justice.  "...and it's alright if
you hate that way, hate me 'cause i'm different, hate me 'cause
i'm gay.  truth of the matter come around one day so it's alright".

in addition to drummer jerry marotta and bassist sara lee, guest
artists include rock troubadour steve earl, violinist lisa germano
and members of the ani difranco band.  "shaming of the sun" will be
released on april 29th and the indigo girls will be in town at the
greek theater on july 2nd in support of it.

*****

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hi!  i'm still a newbie, so i don't know if this has already been
discussed on the list, but i'm curious.  when y'all are singing along,
whose part do you tend to sing most of the time?  emily?  amy?  the
melody?  the harmony?  i find that i start out with em's part and then as
i learn the song i move to amy's because the range is better for me.  i
have a tape for my car that has emily songs on one side and amy songs on
the other.  on a recent road trip i tried to sing emily's part on her
side, and amy's part on hers... i wasn't very good at it!  there are so
many ways to harmonize it's hard to follow one line all the time.

also, i wanted to throw in my .02 about the gainesville line in soy... i
think it's gainesville, ga.  my mom's family lives there, and the whole
town is basically based on the poultry industry, and there are lots of
ethnic minorities that work in the plants... seems to me that it fits
with the "illegal immigrants" part of the song.

thanks for listening to my rambling,
katherine

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subject:      shawn colvin on tnn and vh1 (nigc)

for all you colvinheads out there, she's going to be on tnn at 10 pm on
oh shit! i forgot to write down the date, but she will be on vh1 at 8
pm on april 13 (along w/ mary chapin carpenter)  i found out the dates
from this wonderful little service rockontv...
http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/

check it out!

leah

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subject:      shame on you *pop*

remember riding your bike as a kid?  can you remember the feeling you had
the split second before you decided to "pop a wheelie"?  well, that's the
feeling i got listening to shame on you on the way home tonight.

(i thought you'd understand)

visit my web site:  visit
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/3484/indigo.html

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i know some people have posted lyrics (even chords?) for some of the
songs on shaming of the sun . . .

i'm interested in anything that you have - please e-mail me privately,
and i'll compile them for anyone who wants the complete package in the
future.

thanks in advance!

mk

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sorry if this gets sent twice, i haven't seen it posted yet and it's
kinda important.

> okay everybody,
>
> an anonymous listee has offered to round up our donation for hte to the
> next $500, that means that if we reach $2000 (which we already have)
> they will bump us up to $2500 and if we get $2500 they will bump us up
> to $3000!!!  the listee who is doing this has said pledged amounts can be included in
> the total, so if you can, send in your donation to:
>
> honor the earth
> c/o greta gohn
> po box 502
> chimacum, wa 98325
>
> then email or me(mandi96@airmail.net) and let
> me know how much you sent in (this will remain confidential) and we will
> add your donation to the total.  please, please help, we can get to
> three thousand dollars y"all!!!!!!!
>
> "raise your hands, raise your hands high, don't take a seat, don't stand
> aside" -ar
>
> love,
> mandi

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subject:      more on the kmtt broadcast boot

hey everyone!!!

okay, as i've said before, i've got this great broadcast of the seattle
listeners show that amy and emily did last thursday.

i've had enough people ask me for a copy that i think it would probably
be easier for me to just set up a tree.  soooo, if you'd like to
volunteer to be a branch, please email me!!!  you will all be goddesses
(or gods, whatever)

it's approximately a 45 minute show, and i'd like to put something else,
that is also around 45 mins on the tape, to make it a nice 90 min blank.
but i don't have anything too recent (from this year, like say, another
listeners party or something)  so if anyone has anything that you
wouldn't mind getting me a copy of (we can trade or whatever)  i would
appreciate immensely.  so, please please please, let me know.

thank you thank you!

love,
sundara<--who will probably be away from email for the next few days, so
if you don't hear back from me right away, don't freak out, i'm just out
having a life :)

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subject:      fw: terribly late

hey there,
     i'm one who hates fwd's more than anything, but this one nearly
killed me.

from:   burgin, tom
> >sent:        wednesday, april 09, 1997 12:32 pm
> >subject:     fw: terribly late
> >
> >
> >this misdirected message was inadvertently delivered to my office.

> >
> >sorry for the delay...  i hope it is not too late.
> >
> >stardate 10357.22     (march 28, 1997)
> >
> >from:        hale bopp space taxi:
> >to:          heaven's gate personnel:
> >
> >due to extensive tailwinds caused by the comet hale-bopp,
> >pickup of the 39 passengers has been delayed until 3024
> >when we pass the planet again.
> >
> >do not eat the pudding at this time
> >
> > *** repeat ***
> >
> > do not eat the pudding at this time

remember          peace          maureen

____
remember           peace             maureen

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hi y'all--

i'm definitely interested in some sort of (whatever you want to call people
on the list)-gathering! :) in fact, a few of us have discussed it a bit thru
private email--the only conclusion we've really come to is that since most
people will be driving some distance to get her on a school/work day that
time will be limited before the show. so maybe just a quick meet~n~greet in
front of rec hall before the show? anyhoo, if there is interest in meeting
that way or any other let me know and we'll think of somethin'! :)

counting the days! :)
tamara

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all right peoples!!!!  totals for 4/9/97 as of 10:25 cst are:

in favor: 1

opposed: 2

totals for all 3 days so far:

in favor: 21
opposed: 8

obviously, i'm not padding the votes at all.  if i was, it would be waaaaaaay
more impressive.  :p  what a landslide!!!!!!  votes will be accepted until
12:00 midnight or whenever i check my mail tomorrow!!!!

peace & harmony,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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me cause i'm gay...."- e.saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think you were on the same boat back in 1694" -
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wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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sorry for the bw waste, but i just started playing guitar and i have an
incomplete chord chart. can anyone mail me privately on how to play an a#
chord? thanks for listening to my silly question..  :)
peace and thanks,
jason

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ok guys. i was absolutely shocked to find that there were so many votes for
emily songs in the top ten. 9 emily songs and only 2 amy songs??? what's the
deal, y'all?? are the majority of you closet emily fans? months of amy
worship and amy interviews and amy this and amy that, but emily gets all the
votes? it just isn't consistent. i'm glad emily's getting some credit for
once :) way to go, y'all!! :)

jendy

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emily rocks!!! first of all, my ex g/f and i had a debate today...
she likes amy better and i like emily. we both agree that amy may be
a little cuter, but i like emily b/c her songs rock! not to mention,
don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!
please don"t send me hate mail> this is only what someone
told me!!)   listening to, say, 1200 curfews, it seems like emily is a
little more appreciate of the audience.. what does everyone else
think?

*some of the views expressed in this message are not necessarily
those of the author - please don not send hate mail my way!*
thanx!!!   =)


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> to:            indigo-girls@netspace.org

> ok guys. i was absolutely shocked to find that there were so many votes for
> emily songs in the top ten. 9 emily songs and only 2 amy songs??? what's the
> deal, y'all?? are the majority of you closet emily fans? months of amy
> worship and amy interviews and amy this and amy that, but emily gets all the
> votes? it just isn't consistent. i'm glad emily's getting some credit for
> once :) way to go, y'all!! :)
>
> jendy
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hello my beloved list! i'm back out of a prolonged lurkdom while i took a
vacation and caught up on piles of e-mail. i've switched to digest now
though, and it seems to suit my lifestyle much better!
i was in toronto last week and enjoyed "running down on queen street" among
other fun stuff. i also managed to find a copy of the tmf single in a
bargain bin, and was both outraged and excited at the same time by my find.
well, just wanted to check in, and let everyone i owe e-mail or tapes that
they are on the way!

:) abigail


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so, does anybody else ever find themself musing on stupid little details of
ig song interpretations? for example:

*when amy says her "my friend tanner" line in soy, does she mean that tanner
thinks (s)he keeps fucking up, or that amy does?

                   or:

*when emily's father gave her a $10 raise, does that mean he upped it to
eleven bucks or just handed her a ten dollar bill?

stupid, stupid, stupid, picky things to wonder, but i can't be held
responsible for my brain when it's left up to its own devices :) any thoughts?

:) abigail

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i agree with you 100%!! amy's great (i don't know about cute), don't get me
wrong, but emily has the better personality imo. the 1200 curfews comment is
right on. emily does seem much more appreciative than amy. same with
"complicated girls." i have a friend who met them years ago in athens and
she said that everyone who was with her commented on how stand-offish amy
seemed to be, and that emily was as genuine as can be. she said emily was
really down-to-earth and appreciative. she joked around with them and stuff.
amy just stood there looking like she was ready to go home. to amy's credit,
maybe she just had a bad day when they met her. i just think emily needs a
bit more credit for what she contributes. that's all.

jendy

at 12:40 am 4/10/97 -400, you wrote:
>emily rocks!!! first of all, my ex g/f and i had a debate today...
>she likes amy better and i like emily. we both agree that amy may be
>a little cuter, but i like emily b/c her songs rock! not to mention,
>don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
>that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!
>please don"t send me hate mail> this is only what someone
>told me!!)   listening to, say, 1200 curfews, it seems like emily is a
>little more appreciate of the audience.. what does everyone else
>think?

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ok, i just have to say how greatful i am that i only have twelve more days
of classes left!!!!!!!!  i can't believe it, and in that time i will be
seeing ig at american university!!!!!  i am so ready to leave this place,
and to leave with my first ig concert so close in memory!

then off to camp in michigan where i will see them on june 14th in
clarkston!!  then out to seattle washington where i hope to spend the rest
of my life away from the south and the east coast!  (sorry to anyone who
really loves the east!)

all of these concert experience posts are making me more and more happy
everyday that in just 10 days i too will be up in dc listening to two of the
most amazing people in the world!!!

ok, sorry, but i have to say that any of you out in seattle...i will be out
that way soon with no place to live and no job...sounds like fun huh?  so
any advice on where to live (cheaply) would be great and any advice on where
i could get a job at night!!!

thanks all
peace
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> > (7/1 san diego, ca summer pops bowl ?) 7/2 los angeles, ca greek
> > theatre c (7/5 san francisco, ca shorline ampitheatre or greek
> > theatre

well, this is some more random speculation based on absolutely no
information. okay?

i was just thinking that since they are supposed to be in la on 7/2 and
not in san francisco until 7/5, and since it's not that far from la to san
francisco... and the greek doesn't have anything scheduled on 7/3 ... and
they did two shows there last time they were there...  there is a chance
they will do what they did in atlanta and announce another la show after
the first one sells out.  of course, this could just be wishful thinking.
but if anyone hears anything, let us know!

i don't think it would be formally announced until maybe the end of may,
because the greek subscription deadline isn't until may 12th.

alison - sending special greetings to the 128 other people who like 1200
curfews best and are therefore charter members of the insatiable cult
following.

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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>
>"complicated girls." i have a friend who met them years ago in athens and
>she said that everyone who was with her commented on how stand-offish amy
>seemed to be, and that emily was as genuine as can be.

i think that it is often seen in amy's songs and in her comments (or lack of
them) that she is a very personal person.  i am sure she is a little
stand-offish, but listen to her songs, the intense emotion that comes
through every line doesn't just go away when she isn't singing!:)  (it's
late i hope that made some sense!)  i love them both...though i am much more
of an amy person.;)  amyray, i just wanted to make that little point that
maybe she just isn't as easy going and relaxed around the crowd as emily....

that makes her more of a mystery...maybe she wants to be that way...
maybe i am just rambling about nothing!;)

take care
tucker

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all us amy types are too busy being petulant and fighting for causes to go
vote about songs!

big <g> just kidding everyone! :) haa ha...

on thu, 10 apr 1997, joanie wrote:

> ok guys. i was absolutely shocked to find that there were so many votes for
> emily songs in the top ten. 9 emily songs and only 2 amy songs??? what's the
> deal, y'all?? are the majority of you closet emily fans? months of amy
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hello,

i like to eat a good sandwich once in awhile. i usually like mustard and mayonaise, but sometimes i just want mustard. i like it. it's kicky. now, don't get me wrong - i like mayo, too. i got nothing against mayo. oddly enough, i can prefer one over the other without disliking the one i leave off my sandwich.

i've noticed that many people - maybe even some on this list - seem to be unable to enjoy their mayo without denegrating that sweet old mustard. now, why is that? if you like mayo, then - by god - stand up and shout it, but please don't bitch about the bad mustard burn your friend's cousin got in 1992. who cares! some people like mustard. some people like mayo. it's not a competition, ladies and gentlemen, so - please - no wagering! ;-)

peace and pass the ketchup,

susan
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i agree with you 100%!! amy's great (i don't know about cute), don't get me
wrong, but emily has the better personality imo. the 1200 curfews comment is
right on. emily does seem much more appreciative than amy. same with
"complicated girls." i have a friend who met them years ago in athens and
she said that everyone who was with her commented on how stand-offish amy
seemed to be, and that emily was as genuine as can be. she said emily was
really down-to-earth and appreciative. she joked around with them and stuff.
amy just stood there looking like she was ready to go home. to amy's credit,
maybe she just had a bad day when they met her. i just think emily needs a
bit more credit for what she contributes. that's all.

jendy

at 12:40 am 4/10/97 -400, you wrote:
>emily rocks!!! first of all, my ex g/f and i had a debate today...
>she likes amy better and i like emily. we both agree that amy may be
>a little cuter, but i like emily b/c her songs rock! not to mention,
>don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
>that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!
>please don"t send me hate mail> this is only what someone
>told me!!)   listening to, say, 1200 curfews, it seems like emily is a
>little more appreciate of the audience.. what does everyone else
>think?

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just on principle, i have to comment...
i have difficulty stating that anyone's personality is "better" than
anyone else's.  other than a few well established antisocial personalities
(aka ted bundy, who proudly hailed from my hometown) i have a tough time
talking about anyone's personality being "better".  and especially famous
people like amy and emily, who have to deal with much more daily
irritation and intrusion than us normal folks who tend to take little
things like privacy for granted.

i understand the spirit in which this thread started and i'm not flaming
anyone!  but i just wanted to make that little point and go back to my
corner...bye now--gwen

on thu, 10 apr 1997, joanie wrote:

> i agree with you 100%!! amy's great (i don't know about cute), don't get me
> wrong, but emily has the better personality imo. the 1200 curfews comment is

> >don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
> >that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!

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at 01:23 am 4/10/97 -0400, susan wrote:

>i've noticed that many people - maybe even some on this list - seem to be
unable to enjoy their mayo without denegrating that sweet old mustard.

my point exactly! all condiments should receive equal credit for their
contribution to the sandwich...even if that means praising emily every now
and then.

jendy

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in a message dated 97-04-09 00:36:27 edt, you write:

<< ok folks!!!  here's the tally for today.  of the votes received on 4/8/97:
>>

i guess i have been away longer than i thought...what exactly are we voting
on???

mindala

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hi all!!
well i just got back from the tulsa show, my very first ever, and i am
still reeling from the adrenaline rush!  i'm not sure what the "procedure"
is for relaying the details of various shows and since no one's written in
yet about this one i figured i'd just write in what i can remember was in
other people's posts of earlier shows.  i can't remember the order of the
songs that they played but they played all of the songs i believe that will
be on sots and a few "goldie oldies" :).  it was an awesome show and at
first i was afraid that we were gonna have to sit through it but happily
for me, we were allowed to dance in merriment and good spirits :).  well i
have a test to study for now and i know that i'm not going to get in any
sleep, but all i can think about is the ft. worth show tomorrow and if it's
feasible for me to make the atlanta show on 5/24 (if someone would be kind
enough to private mail me the tix phone # and selling date i would be oh so
happy i know they were posted before but i never thought i might be able to
swing it) and the philly show on 5/30.  my cheeks are going to be swollen
from smiling so much so i'll quit rambling now.  take care y'all.
keep it groovy,
ryan

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okay everybody,

an anonymous listee has offered to round up our donation for hte to the
next $500, that means that if we reach $2000 (which we already have)
they will bump us up to $2500 and if we get $2500 they will bump us up
to $3000!!!  the donor has also mentioned that raising $3300 would be
very appropriate since it is amy's 33rd birthday ($100 for each year).
the listee who is doing this has said pledged amounts can be included in
the total, so if you can, send in your donation to:

honor the earth
c/o greta gohn
po box 502
chimacum, wa 98325

then email greta (cgohn@olympus.net) or i (mandi96@airmail.net) and let
us know how much you sent in (this will remain confidential) and we will
add your donation to the total.  please, please help, we can get to
three thousand dollars y"all!!!!!!!

"raise your hands, raise your hands high, don't take a seat, don't stand
aside" -ar

love,
mandi

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subject:      singing along....

i think i tend to sing along to emily more, but occassionally i find
myself singing along to amy as well (especially on chickenman...)

john.

"your ex wife holding a loaded gun - god,
what a turn on...."

caroline, caroline in the city.

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first i would like to second this opinion...

> i think that it is often seen in amy's songs and in her comments (or lack of
> them) that she is a very personal person.  i am sure she is a little
> stand-offish, but listen to her songs, the intense emotion that comes
> through every line doesn't just go away when she isn't singing!:)
        [snip]
> amyray, i just wanted to make that little point that
> maybe she just isn't as easy going and relaxed around the crowd as emily....

and then elaborate.  (that's what we history types do)

i'd been thinking about this very subject for the last day or so, so when
i first read the question, i reflected on those thoughts and came up with
(you can laugh if you want) a fruit juice analogy.  emily reminds me of
pineapple juice -- it's sweet, friendly, and enjoyable.  the same goes for
her songs.  amy, on the other hand, reminds me of grapefruit juice.  it
takes some getting used to, but one day you wake up and -- wow -- that
rubyred tastes mighty fine.  i was thinking that, at least in the past, on
first listenings, i generally prefer emily's songs, but that amy's have a
way of seeping into my soul and taking over.  i still love pineapple
juice, but there is something quite tangy and satisfying about rubyred
that pineapple doesn't really provide.

carrie

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sorry for bw...

i have your saber tiger cd...it was located.  it is a sample copy of the
released album, so it costed nada darn thing.

let me know if and when you see this...
--sara

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is there a webpage somewhere of cate curtis lyrics? there's a couple of
words to radical that i don't understand and i was going to sing and
play it at the local gay bar...(my second home)... that and sheri
jackson's "maple tree"....i've been invited to perform during one of my
guy/gal pal's ;) show and i want to give "her" some respect by doing a
good song....and i was gonna sing it to someone special....like a
blonde, 41 year old, engineer that i've been seeing :)(radical that
is....the sheri jackson song is venting :) ) sorry for going on and on!!
-sal

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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hey there everybody!!

okay, in my last post it said to contact either me or greta if you send
in your donation today.  greta is gone for the weekend, so if you do
send in your donation email me (mandi96@airmail.net) and let me know so
i can add you to the total being presented to amy tonight!!!!!!

the addy for sending in donations is:
honor the earth
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chimacum, wa 98325

**we are over two thousand already!!!!!!!*

love,
mandingo

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i was browsing on the ig usenet group - someone posted the igs are to be
on letterman april 30. can anyone verify this?

n.


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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okay...i have to tell you this.  from me, you won't get a fashion review, the set list, or some of the finer features of the other great reviews.  the reason?  i started trying to remember the set list...and got so wrapped up in the music, the atmosphere, the fact that i was deliriously happy, that i forgot everything.  i'll do what i can, though, and hope that there were others there who can do better.  suffice it to say that it was an amazing experience for me.

we got there about 6:05, and people were starting to line up at the three entrances.  the doors opened just after 7, and as soon as i got my armband on, i bolted for the floor seats.  we ended up on the 5th row, dead center...i was extremely happy.  this is the closest my friends and i have ever been.  we loved the shows before, but being up that close is a monumental thing.  you think, "oh, my god...this is real.  i can see them, they can see me."  sometimes, at a concert, if my seats aren't really good, it's more like watching it on tv.

anyway...the opening act, scud mountain boys...don't ask me to review them.  i won't.

the girls took the stage shortly after 9...i saw them, and thought i was either going to pass out, or cry...i did neither, fortunately.  = )  i do remember they opened with "reunion".  it was too fun.  they jumped right into the new stuff then, with gotm.  what a great song!!!!  after that, i think, was dgtgag.  it's so much better live...amy's raw emotion makes it.  one of my friends and the people in front and in back of us had the binoculars out trying to figure our how many guitars and what kind...they never reached a concensus.  they were all musicians...it was cool.  the women in front were older than me, the ones behind were younger...it felt like a "three generations" family portrait.  anyway...all i remember is that amy started out with a grey shirt with a print on the front i couldn't read, and a striped long sleeved shirt that she abandoned at some point.  em was wearing a red shirt with a big blue "e" on it...and some shirt over it.  there...there's the fashion report i said i wouldn't have...*laugh*

about all i can do now is hit highlights...sorry...i was purely selfish.  if i had tried to remember set list and all that, i would have enjoyed it less, as i didn't have a pen to write it down.  um...caramia...beautiful.  scooter boys...wow.  shed your skin...cool.  it's alright...yeah!!!!  hey, kind friend...em on mountain dulcimer...great.  everything in its own time...fantastic.  shame on you...rockin'!!  galileo...big sing-along, em smiling much...so sweet!!  three hits...unexpected and wonderful.  least complicated...fun, fun, fun!  man, i know i'm going to leave things out.  leeds...powerful..i cried.  thin line...big smile from me.  and...was that "blood quantum"?  is that the name of it?  wow...i searched two sites for lyrics last night, they were so powerful.  if i have the name wrong, please let me know.  of course, closer to fine...amy trying to whistle the part...quit in the middle.  i don't think she could hear herself for us screaming.  sorry, amy.  i'm sure i'm leaving stuff out that someone surely can fill in.  we were really surprised (and saddened) to not hear ghost or bury my heart.  i also was holding out hope that they'd play ptntf...*sigh*  i'm still happy.  = )

anyway...after the house lights went up, there was a scramble for set lists and picks.  i, being short, got neither, but instead got stepped on.  a pick fell to the floor, and this idiot policewoman was making everyone get up...grabbing them by an arm, and screeching, "no!!!"  we all just sort of rolled our eyes at her.  it was funny.

my friends and i left the venue (which e & a weren't crazy about, i don't think...too much open space for them, they said...one of them likened it to a playground...?) and got in the car.  we drove around the back to leave, and saw a very small gathering of people at the exit.  we parked, and joined them.  a policewoman said, "the girls are really tired, and they just want to go...please don't ask them to sign anything."  well, i didn't, but did she really think that most people were going to listen to her?  i just wanted to see them.  that was all.  amy came out first, and the flock of people swarmed her.  em came out the other side of the exit, and my friend and i hesitantly approached her...i felt like a shark.  she sort of met us halfway, and said, "hi."  my friend said, "great show."  i said, "thanks."  em said, "thanks for coming."  i said, "thank you."  i then took a pic of em and some girl who handed me her camera (hope it turns out).  em said something about looking all sweaty.  as if she wasn't fantastic...*smile*  one of my native american friends asked them something about sweatlodges...then they got into the minivan, and drove off into the night.  i couldn't speak for a while.
my best friend mentioned later that amy has really beautiful skin...she's much prettier up close than at a distance.

okay...things i now remember.  one of them commented during the concert about our license plates saying "native america".  much cheering...most of us in tulsa are at least some native american...mostly of the 5 "civilized tribes", cherokee (that's me), choctaw, creek, chickasaw, and seminole.  also, they were taking questions from the audience from time to time...i can't believe no one asked what they had done while they were in tulsa...i would love to know.  instead...one of the girls behind us asked if they liked chihuahuas.  they couldn't hear, and the message didn't get relayed well.  amy says, "is it a political issue?"  then once they found out what the question really was, em said, "we love all creatures."  amy said, "people are always trying to give us dogs at shows...it's weird."
well...there's the concert report according to jennifer.  sorry that i couldn't either take up less space or do a better job.  this was the most amazing experience...i wish there were any way i could go to the tcu concert tonight...*sigh*  oh, well.  maybe i'll catch them somewhere along the post-release tour.

jennifer w.

*who calls herself fortunate today, and won't take off her wristband until she has to shower*

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subject:      get out the map - kfog

on kfog's (97.7/104.5) new releases thursday today...one of the featured
songs is "get out the map"!! for those of you who haven't heard "shame on
you" or want a snippet of it as a wav, you can get it at:

http://www.kfog.com/new/releases/music/i/indigo.wav

so far there is no snippet of gotm on the sight...but i'll keep checking.

rose

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subject:      amy's personality

hiya.  just going to donate my $.02 to the conversation....

i don't think that amy is less friendly per se; i think she is more intense,
and into what she is doing for a different reason.  there are people who feel
pushed to achieve certain things, and for amy those things involve helping
other people.  emily plays music because she loves it, she's good at it, and
she gets to meet lots of wonderful people (who, by the way, give her _lots_ of
money.)  i am sure that these motives are not lost on amy, but i believe that
she is doing what she does to reach people and _change the world for the better
_.  that's the reason she participates in so many charities, right?  and for a
person as intensely committed as she is, small talk with fans is distracting &
irrelevent.  she's got other things to do, and other things on her mind, as
opposed to emily, who gets a lot out of her relationship to the fans. (after
all, which one writes the relationship songs, huh?)

so there's my opinion.  please note that it is my opinion, i could be quite
wrong, but it makes sense.  i admire amy greatly because of the her social
awareness.  i would not be as big a fan if it weren't for songs such as "this
train revised" and "chiapas bound."  i admire emily because she can write
beautiful and complex songs like "watershed."  and i feel lucky that i live in
a plane of existence where two such individuals have come together to make
music which i can listen to.

             thanx for subjecting yourself to my ramblings,
                                  chris mccormick

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date:         thu, 10 apr 1997 10:44:22 edt
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subject:      woohoo!

okay, this isn't a review or anything of that nature...  i'll give one of
those after tonight!!!  i just wanted to tell everyone who'll be at the
tcu show tonight to be careful driving and all!!  you know, we all want
to get there to see the girls, but it would really suck if you died
trying...okay maybe it wouldn't..  hmmm now there's a deep thought for my
five hour drive to ft. worth!  anyway, i'll see all of y'all there and
have fun!!!! :):):)

lisa

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my dear fellow indigoers....
        i'm here in london (on a one semester study abroad) and have
caught wind of some indigo shows on the east coast in may...  i was
wondering if anyone possibly had a list of the dates/places of some shows
to help out a poor displaced native east coaster...  i'm not on the list
right now, so if y'all have been sending around this list (if it does, in
fact, exist) i haven't gotten it...  i'm really looking forward to
driving my station wagon up and down the east coast this summer, seeing
all the shows i can...  yey!  so, if anyone can help my dream to come
true, i'd be eternally grateful...  thank you so much!  (i can't wait to
get back on the list when i get home in may!)
love, mandy
ps- oh, uh... and also if you happen to have the ph number for
ticketmonster as well....  thanks!

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here there, sorry for the bw, but my 'puter seems to be acting up
again.  could someone on aol email me so i can test something out?  i
keep getting mail back from aol addys, so i'm wondering if my server is
being discriminatory towards aol  :o
just to let you know, my test response email will be the first line of
c-man.

thanks for y'alls help!!

love,
mandingo the b'day fairy

just over 8 hrs til we present the gift!!!!!!!

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>
> ps- is she involved in any inportant causes?  maybe that's it....
yes, exactly...thanks you just answered your own question.  her cause is
getting a gay person into the limelight.  yes we have melissa and kd but
there has never been a gay person as the *star* of a primetime sitcom
before.  sitcoms are america's tv...they try to reflect the kind of life
average americans live and can relate to.  to make one of the stars (out
of how many hetero ones) a lesbian is quite groundbreaking for the queer
community...hope that helps...
:) marianne
~o~
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/_\     and the clouds move aside so you can look at the moon."
((                     --lisa zeiler (rebecca riots)

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i won! i won! i did! i did! i won!!!!!!

i think i did. win a backstage pass to see the girls after (or before-no
one knows)the fw show! a friend won it, and can't go to the concert and so
gave her backstage privilege to us. now, she didn't get a pass or anything.
she was told to go backstage and say her name. so i am assuming they will
let us through; again nobody knows.

in any case, i am tres excited and even if i can't get backstage, at least
i get to go to the concert. i am going to try to tape it and if it works
out i will let you all know so we can see about getting tapes to all
interested (famous last words). i am definitely taking pictures so those
may be available as well. this is too cool.
urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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okay now if your name is carrie and you sent me a copy of las cruces,
e-mail me with your address because i don't have it, and i need to send
you your copy of in with the out crowd!!!

:) marianne

~o~
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((      nothing else matters except the way we feel."
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greetings little lambs-eat-ivies

okay! so i see on the boob tube (er, um, the tv...sorry, is that too *obscene*
for the list?) today that it's another hallmark-iday, "siblings day". kee-rist,
what's up with those money grubbers? siblings day? what's next, "i love me"
day? of course, every day should be "i love me!" day dontcha think? in fact
everyone right now go find a mirror, look in it, and say "hey me! i love you!"!
and then pat yourself on the back for screwing hallmark out of $1.95 for a card

okay, on to igc!

one o my pals on an ani list wants to go to the lasalle students-only show
reeeeeal badlike. is there anyone who would/could get tickets for her and her
pal? or do you hafta show a student id to get in? in other words, someone clue
in my ass please. i'd like to help her out but i don't know if it's
possible/legal/moral to do so...

have a chipper sibs day kiddies!

xo, susanna
"yer a wimp!"
                                                - pooh

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subject:      the juice theory

in reply to carrie's clever pineapple/grapefruit analogy......i am in
total agreement...i have always been an emily person...but amy
certainly has seeped into my soul!! mix that pineapple with that
grapefruit, and you get the most wonderful addicting taste that
quenches that thirst in your soul like no other.....
just my two corny bits...

forever indigo,
cathy

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there have been those in the past that have indicated that when they met
a&e, that amy was the super nice one and emily was distant.  i've been to 3
concerts and, in my experience, amy has always been outgoing and very
appreciative of the audience.  i've always thought that amy is more
appreciative the emily.  now, i consider myself an "emily person", but
think amy is more interesting to watch in concert.  you all know that a&e
appreciate their fans.  but they can't be expected to be happy and
exuberant each and every time they meet a fan.

isn't is safe to say that a&e are both appreciative - but everyone deserves
a bad day?

for what it's worth,
- jen hall

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i didn't think anything could top the whole funnel exchange (emily: "this
is the best gift i've ever received.  i can't wait to show my mother.)
but i think amy gets the non sequitor award for this comment:

"people are always trying to give us dogs at shows...it's weird."


thanks jennifer w for passing it along, and for the rest of the review.

....audrey
*who just emailed y100 to tell 'em about the listee site...hoping it'll
encourage 'em to play more ig.  they keep tempting about these sonic
session tickets, but won't say how to win 'em....agh...i wanna hear wxpn
again...


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susan wrote:
>--- ms prim and proper wrote:
>ummm, folks, there are a few young'uns on the list...maybe we could try
>to keep the humor a little more....family-oriented?   ;)
>
>watch yourselves.
>--- end of quoted material ---
>aww for goddess sakes, audrey! liten up!
>i'm usually amazed by the maturity level of the younger folks on this list, and
>i think they certainly know what nads are!

susan's right, mostly.  i didn't mean to insult anyone's maturity level
with my post....if i did, i'm sorry.  while i appreciate that many people
think the idea of calling ourselves "indigonads" is funny, the truth is
that reading all the posts about it made me feel uncomfortable.  i can't
explain it rationally, but i didn't like feeling that way so i tried to
speak up in a way that i wouldn't have to admit that to everyone but the
jokes would still stop.  well, i failed, it backfired.  it happens
sometimes.  now you all know.

for the record, i checked the definition of "gonad" in the oed to make
sure i was right about what it was before i posted.  not all of us
remember what we learned in biology class.  :)

....audrey
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subject:      re: ig fan survey - final tally (long)amy & emily

in a message dated 97-04-10 01:07:33 edt, edwina@jax-inter.net (joanie)
writes:

<< at 12:40 am 4/10/97 -400, you wrote:
>emily rocks!!! first of all, my ex g/f and i had a debate today...
>she likes amy better and i like emily. we both agree that amy may be
>a little cuter, but i like emily b/c her songs rock! not to mention,
>don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
>that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!
>please don"t send me hate mail> this is only what someone
>told me!!)   listening to, say, 1200 curfews, it seems like emily is a
>little more appreciate of the audience.. what does everyone else
>think? >>

well i'm probably gonna start another debate here, but you asked what
everyone else thinks, and so here it is... me being a total amy ray fan, i
would have to disagree with what you said. i love emily, & i love her music,
but how can you say she's "nicer". have you ever met her?
i don't think that it's a matter of nice or not, they are two totally
different people, who happen to make beautiful music together. emily is the
more outgoing one. she seems to be at ease when she performs. she isn't
intimidated by the large audience of screaming fans!! also it's in the way
she writes, in her lyrics she speaks of  things that are of importance to
her. things that have to do with life in general. her lyrics are very well
written and intelligent, like she spent lots of time thinking the words
through. what she writes of comes from her mind.  amy on the other hand is
the emotional one. she writes of love and feeling. she seems very quiet,shy,
more reserved.   when she writes she writes from her heart.
thats why they get along so well. together they are heart and mind. so it's
perfect.
i'm not saying that i am an indigo girl expert, but i have been a fan for as
long as i can remember, and that is what i get from the two of them. their
body language, the way they write, the way they act when they perform.
i am a writer also, and i love to sing. i am a very emotional person, and i
know that when i see amy, she reminds me of me. shy, quiet and reserved. not
very comfortable in a crowd full of people, but when she sings, and she gets
that reaction from the audience, she gets a boot of self confidence. her
total attitude changes. emily is just the oppisite. she already has that self
confidence. and that is why they are so perfect together. ever hear the
phrase "oppisites attract"  ? well these two definitely are oppisite, and
when they get together, boy do they attract!!!   ahem ...    anyway...
i think that they both get credit for what they do. it's not fair to compare
them to each other, there is no comparison! they are who they are seperately,
and they are who they are together. and one without the other, they just
wouldn't be the same.they are two of the most wonderful performers i have
ever heard, and i appreciate them  as much seperately as i do together.
-kim

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1) need 2 tix for the bender/au in washington
2) anyone know if they're general admission or reserved

thanks,

rebekah.

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at 8:07 am 4/10/97, marianne barlow wrote:
>>
>> ps- is she involved in any inportant causes?  maybe that's it....
>yes, exactly...thanks you just answered your own question....sitcoms are
>america's tv...they try to reflect the kind of life average americans live
>and can relate to.

point of info....pick up this weeks "time" magazine...can't miss it...
ellen on the front with the caption "yep, i'm gay.."  in the article, it
talks about it being a groundbreaking episode, and likens it to lucy being
"pregnant," captain kirk kissing lt. uhura (first interracial kiss on tv),
maude getting an abortion, murphy brown choosing single motherhood, two men
talking while in bed together in "thirtysomething", and (oh no!) a married
couple sleeping in the same bed together for the 1st time together on tv
(ooooh, crs is creeping in fast..i don't remember the couple....but i dun
purty good, me thinks, 'memberin' most of the article's contents....tanks!
:o)

that is all...thanks for your attention....(as soon as i hit 'send,' i'll
'member the couples name, i'm sure....)

have a good one y'all!

joni  :o)

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sorry for the bw again.

teddi,
i just sent you two messages, could you let me know if you get
one/both/or none of them?  thanks.

(one has the first line of c-man on it and the other doesn't let me know
which one you get if you only get one of them)

thanks!

love,
mandingo the b'day fairy

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am i the only one old enough to remember billy crystal in the sit-com
soap?  while not a show revolving around a single main character, his
was one of the primary roles, and the character was openly gay.
and it wasn't because the show was essentially like all the others and
desperately needed a ratings boost.  and if you have an argument with
that statement, examine the facts:  two years ago "ellen" was a top
10 show, these days it's lucky to be in the top 30.
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and if you remmeber correctly soap was done for laughs the whole show that
is not just billys part while ellen is a comedy it dealw with real issues
to

on thu, 10 apr 1997, david perham wrote:

> am i the only one old enough to remember billy crystal in the sit-com
> soap?  while not a show revolving around a single main character, his
> was one of the primary roles, and the character was openly gay.
> and it wasn't because the show was essentially like all the others and
> desperately needed a ratings boost.  and if you have an argument with
> that statement, examine the facts:  two years ago "ellen" was a top
> 10 show, these days it's lucky to be in the top 30.
> --
> let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness.
>        --martin luther king
>          april 3, 1968
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hey, y'all.

        i don't know if what i'm going to ask is really appropriate for
this list, but i'm going to go ahead and ask anyway.  a good friend of mine
lost her father to liver cancer last night.  she's an indigo girls fan to
the core and i jut thought that it would be nice if you all could just
think about her when you're listening to ig today.  she's got a rough road
ahead and will need all the prayers she can get.

        thanks,

                sarah :-)

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"i am a lonely painter           "there are no happy endings
i live in a box of paints."        because nothing ends."
         -joni mitchell                -smendrick, the last unicorn


"you can talk a great philosophy,   "and where does magic come from?
but if you can't be kind to people   i think that magic's in the learning."
everyday then it doesn't mean                -dar williams
that much to me."
        -ani difranco

                      "there are a lot of people who
                       figure prominently in your life
                       that you may only nod to; it's
                       better to stop and say hello."
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hi all!

   there has been some talk of a list meet at unh this saturday (hurry,
hurry!), but no formal plans.  i've only been there once, several years
ago, but as i recall there is a dairy bar next to campus that might work,
though i think it was a little small.  alternatively, i believe there was
a decent chinese restaurant off the other side of campus that could also
work.

   are there any unh students (or others familiar with the area) that can
give directions to either of these or suggest another place to meet up
before the concert (at least its not ga, so we can meet at a reasonable
time... around dinner time?)

enjoy the show!

chris imershein
imer5924@hgc.edu
"nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're universal"

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from:         "<dena kohleriter>" <denakohl@aol.com>
subject:      ig live on the radio

in dallas, the radio station zone 93.3 announced that the girls will be at
the station sometime between 1 and 3.  is is crazy that i ran out and bought
a new stereo so that i could get better reception?  i'll be taping.
  wow.....this and the concert tonight!  i'm in heaven!

dena

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>okay, i dialed the 800 number to music blvd and the young lady that
>answered was very helpful.. she said she had no idea what the difference
>between the two cds was but she gave me a new york number to call sony
>and ask them...which i have no intenton of calling, my interest is not
>that great, but i thought maybe some of our new york people might call
>and see what's up...the number is 212-833-8000

the combination of me being bored at work and an info junkie forced me to
make the call to epic. the limited edition is indeed just a digi-pack. it's
funny that they refer to that packaging as "limited edition" because i saw
several so digi-packs at best buy just last week -- almost three years
after they were released as "limited editions".

also, epic said no decision has been made yet whether they would release
sots on vinyl.

deb

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okay, i just wanted to say whoever started the thing about dissing
aolers was totally off!  they are great!!!  thanks to those who
responded to my post!  okay, i've responded to everyone's message that
sent me one, but now i'm getting "mail failed-returning to sender"
messages.  i've triple checked all the email addys, so it's not that.
everyone who is not on aol gets my messages, but they just won't go
through to aol.  can anyone help me with this problem?  thanks!

love,
mandi

in just 5 hrs. . . . . .

sorry for the bw

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i agree....amy and em are totally different.  just from my one experience
hangin' with them backstage after davenport, it was obvious that amy was
way closed off.  i didn't interpret it as nice or not nice, just very
closed off from fans, protected...you can tell she's been burned more
than a few times. maybe that's why.  everyone has a theory, of course.
until you actually meet them, or develop some type of relationship, we
can all just assume, i guess.....sigh.  emily was way outgoing, though,
and soooooo cool to hang out with.  it was all good.  =)

-aim


      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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      believing, keep pretending. we've done just what we
      set out to do, thanks to the lovers, the dreamers,
      and you..."

                                       -the muppet movie
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>the limited edition is indeed just a digi-pack.

i'm clueless.  what's a digi-pack?

elizabeth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"life will not be like 'star trek'...it would be great to be able to beam
your molecules across space and then reassemble them. the only problem is
that you have to trust your co-worker to operate the transporter. these are
the same people who won't add paper to the photocopier or make a new pot of
coffee after taking the last drop."
                        -dilbert

"but i guess the nice thing about driving a car is that the physical act of
driving itself occupies a good chunk of brain cells that otherwise would be
giving you trouble overloading your thinking.  new scenery continually
erases what came before; memory is lost, shuffled, relabeled and forgotten.
gum is chewed; buttons are pushed; windows are lowered and opened.  a fast
moving car is the only place where you're legally allowed to not deal with
your problems.  it's enforced meditation and this is good."
                        -douglas coupland, life after god

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i am really having a tough time figuring out exactly what definition of
"gonad" we are having problems with.  according to what i learned in my
nursing program, gonads are the primary reproductive organs that produce
gametes (ovum or egg in women, sperm in men).  why is this embarrassing?
shame over our bodies like this is not healthy.  and why is indigovaries
better than indigonads?  please help me understand.

on thu, 10 apr 1997, audrey beth stein wrote:

> for the record, i checked the definition of "gonad" in the oed to make
> sure i was right about what it was before i posted.  not all of us
> remember what we learned in biology class.  :)
>

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bsn class of 1997!!!
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hey y'all...i'm totally sorry for wasting bw, but i'm sitting here peeing
my pants and rotflmao...my apologies for any offensive words...just take it
with a grain of salt..which, btw, goes *lovely* with a margarita....yummm
... a strawberry one with a fajita, lotsa cheese, and equisite
company....joni :o)

>> fall classes offered
>>
>> seminars for males (prepared and presented by females)
>> 1. combatting stupidity
>> 2. you, too, can do housework
>> 3. pms: learn when to keep your mouth shut
>> 4. how to fill an ice tray
>> 5. we do not want sleazy underthings for christmas: give us money
>> 6. understanding the female response to your coming in drunk at 4:00am
>> 7. wonderful laundry techniques (formerly titled "don't wash my silks")
>> 8. parenting: no, it doesn't end with conception
>> 9. get a life: learn to cook
>> 10. how not to act like an asshole when you're obviously wrong
>> 11. spelling: even you can get it right
>> 12. understanding your financial incompetence
>> 13. you: the weaker sex
>> 14. reasons to give flowers
>> 15. how to stay awake after sex -- afterglow, hold me, talk to me
>> 16. why it is unacceptable to relieve yourself anywhere but the bathroom
>> 17. garbage: getting it to the curb
>> 18. you can fall asleep without it if you really try
>> 19. the morning dilemma -- if  it's awake: take a cold shower
>> 20. i'll wear it if i damn well please
>> 21. how to put the toilet lid down (formerly titled "no, it's not a
>bidet")
>> 22. "the weekend" and "sports" are not synonyms
>> 23. give me a break: why we know your excuses are bullshit
>> 24. how to go shopping with your mate and not get lost
>> 25. the remote control: overcoming your dependency
>> 26. romanticism: ideas other than sex
>> 27. helpful postural hints for couch potatoes
>> 28. mother-in-laws: they are people too
>> 29. male bonding: leaving your friends at home
>> 30. you, too, can be a designated driver
>> 31. seeing the true you (formerly titled "no, you don't look like mel
>gibson when naked")
>> 32. changing your underwear: it really works
>> 33. the attainable goal: omitting tits from your vocabulary
>> 34. fluffing the blankets after flatulating is not necessary
>> 35. techniques of calling home
>> 36. introductory foreplay: the drive home does not count.
>>

>> fall classes offered
>>
>> seminars for females (prepared and presented by males)
>>
>> 1. are you ready to leave?: definition of the word yes
>> 2. appropriate rhetorical questions (formerly titled "honey, do i look
>fat?")
>> 3. elementary map reading
>> 4. crying and law enforcement
>> 5. advanced math seminar: programming your vcr
>> 6. you can go shopping for less than 4 hours
>> 7. gaining five pounds vs. the end of the world: a study in contrast
>> 8. the seven-outfit week
>> 9. pms: it's your problem, not mine (formerly "it's happened monthly
>since puberty: deal
>>     with it")
>> 10. driving i: getting past automatic transmissions
>> 11. driving ii: the meaning of blinking red lights
>> 12. driving iii: approximating a constant speed
>> 13. driving iv: makeup and driving: it's as simple as oil and water
>> 14. the super bowl: not a game: a sacrament
>> 15. telephone translations (formerly titled "me too equals i love you")
>> 16. how to earn your own money
>> 17. gift-giving fundamentals (formerly titled "fabric bad, electronics
>good")
>> 18. putting the seat down by yourself: potential energy is on your side
>> 19. know when to say when: the limits of makeup
>> 20. beyond "clean and dirty": the nuances of wearable laundry
>> 21. we forget birthdays, you forget sports stats: let's let it drop
>> 22. myob: proper response to other couple's public arguments
>> 23. yes, you can buy condoms (formerly titled "we learned to deal with
>the embarrassment")
>> 24. joys of the remote control: reaping the benefits of 50+ channels
>> 25. what goes around comes around: why his credit card is not a toy
>> 26. the penis: his best friend can be yours too
>> 27. his poker games: deal yourself out
>> 28. commitment schmittment (formerly titled "wedlock schmedlock")
>> 29. to honor and obey: remembering the small print above "i do"
>> 30. why your mother is unwelcome in the house
>> 31. your mate: selfish bastard, or victimized sensitive man?

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hey all,

i realize this is really last minute, but if anyone has two tickets
available to unh this saturday, please let me know.  these tickets are for a
friend in boston... her email address is:   kelly@ms-group.com.
you can also respond to me....

thanks,
lynn

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just another funny thing said at the tulsa concert.

em said something like, "do you all know any of our new stuff?  i mean, with the internet, and all...i think the boot came out before...." and she trailed off, looked at amy, and smiled.  then she said, "well, if you know the words to the new songs, you just sing along."

how can you not love her???  *g*

jennifer w.

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i will be meeting up with my accomodations there and kinda want to boycott
greyhound as much as possible -- i'm in orono and can meet ya in bangor,
waterville, augusta, portland, possibly lewiston.. no i am not a serial
killer and yes i am meeting up with mike paluzzi at the unh show and i will
split gas /tolls ...

email me if you  are going my way -- i only need one way ride down

mike r.
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in a message dated 97-04-10 01:07:33 edt, edwina@jax-inter.net (joanie)
writes:
>we both agree that amy may be
>a little cuter, but i like emily b/c her songs rock! not to mention,
>don't you think that emily is, for the most part, nicer?  i've heard
>that amy can be a bitch in person (this is not coming from me!!
>please don"t send me hate mail> this is only what someone
>told me!!)

       i'm not going to send joanie hate mail, but every time i read stuff
like this, i am embarassed.  whether or not this is an opinion, or somebody
"told" you amy is a bitch, makes no difference to me.  it is posted to the
list and uh,  the words are there, on the list. it feels like a reflection on
everyone if it is posted.  (i know its not, it felt like it ta me, i wished i
was reading a dry erase board :)) sure i have opinions(lots of them) about
amy and emily, i try to keep the judgements (yes, i am judgemental, i don't
think its a bad thing) in private mail, or between friends.  yes, i do talk
about hair, clothes, looks, personality of the girls but not usually to the
list.  does anyone else feel this way?  (oh god, i'm frightened...never been
flamed.  first time for everything.)
     we know(do we?) that this is public, and that a & e have read some, and
are skeptical about the list.  (lots of people so good stuff on/with/around
this list which reflects well)  i have to say though, my feelers would be a
little tweaked if somebody said that somebody else was cuter than me!  oh the
devistation i would feel :) but if i were nicer than that cuter
somebody...well, would that make up for it?  ok ok i've drifted into the land
o' sarcasm.  i'm not tryin' to be a meanie, (well maybe a little-kidding) ok
enough...

>>kim wrote:
>it's not fair to compare
>them to each other, there is no comparison! they are who they are
seperately,
>and they are who they are together. and one without the other, they just
>wouldn't be the same.they are two of the most wonderful performers i have
>ever heard, and i appreciate them  as much seperately as i do together.

nicely put kim! i'm done.
catherine (running away to work, running from the flames)

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hi all,
        i've heard rumors that the girls are playing at drexel u in
philadelphia, pa next weekend. any confirmations out there?

thanks,
jane

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subject:      igc! run away!!

hi siblings....

does anyone own a copy of a bootleg called "mapped"? i believe someone
made this for everyone awhile back. can anyone tell me what amy and emily
are saying right before ctf? something about therapy, and identification?

annnnd....of course i can't post something without asking a chord
question. where would my reputation go?!  so here's my question:  shame on
you and it's alright. anyone know these chords? i think soy is something
like e, a, b. i could be wrong. i often am...

i have just one more question. (promise) i was wondering what is
everyone's favorite new songs? mine are soy and it's alright. (isa?)  i
don't want to start athread or anything. i was just curious. i'm go crawl
under my rock again. = ) have a very happy windsday, evelybahdee.

-liz- (who is wondering if she's going to unh or not)

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hi guys,
        i am from the bay area, stanford to be exact and i am new on the
list.  i am wondering if anyone knows when tickets go on sale for the
greek theater show in july.  if anyone knows could they please fill me in?

thanks,
        katherine

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herman and lillian munster (the munsters)


at 03:37 pm 4/10/97 -0400, automatic digest processor wrote:
>point of info....pick up this weeks "time" magazine...can't miss it...
>ellen on the front with the caption "yep, i'm gay.."  in the article, it
>talks about it being a groundbreaking episode, and likens it to lucy being
>"pregnant," captain kirk kissing lt. uhura (first interracial kiss on tv),
>maude getting an abortion, murphy brown choosing single motherhood, two men
>talking while in bed together in "thirtysomething", and (oh no!)
-----
>a married
>couple sleeping in the same bed together for the 1st time together on tv
------

>(ooooh, crs is creeping in fast..i don't remember the couple....but i dun
>purty good, me thinks, 'memberin' most of the article's contents....tanks!
>:o)

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hi everyone.  i live in minneapolis and saw the igs in late september. it was
announced on the radio at the last minute and and advertised at ticketmaster as
an ig concert only.  well, i went and it was a benefit concert for the honors cd
they collaborated on.  they only sang after what seemed like an endless
performance of quite a few hours by some native american groups, for about 30
minutes- maybe even less.  i do not dispute the fact that it was a good cause,
but along with the rest of the fans, we felt misled.  it was not that it was bad
or we resented the cause of the show, just let down in general i guess.  it was
my first time seeing them.  and they told us they would be coming back twice
before march and they have not.
what do you think of this?  i mean, it was cool when they did perform, it was
just the wait seemed to last forever- people were walking out and everyone
seemed a bit miffed.  i wondered even if the igs knew it was being advertised as
an indigo grils concert.


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catherine wrote:

>       i'm not going to send joanie hate mail,

thanks. but ummm what you quoted was not something i wrote. i can't remember
who did but it wasn't i, i can assure you. i never said amy was a bitch, and
i never would because i don't think she is.

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>       i'm not going to send joanie hate mail, but every time i read stuff
>like this, i am embarassed.  whether or not this is an opinion, or somebody
>"told" you amy is a bitch, makes no difference to me.  it is posted to the
>list and uh,  the words are there, on the list. it feels like a reflection on
>everyone if it is posted.

i agree. do we also forget that everything we say on this list is compiled
and saved somewhere? people can go back and read every word we send to this
list 5-10-20-30 years from now. i have often wondered what will happen in
30 years when someone is running for president and people start searching
through saved usenet messages and listserv digests trying to find something
embarassing the candidate posted as a college student. maybe i just think
about weird things but you know this is going to happen. ;)

it's really thoughtless and inconsiderate to throw around loaded words like
"bitch" when describing someone you don't even know in reality -- and i
don't care how many disclaimers you post with it. newbies to this list will
read that and guess what they take from it? this is how inane rumors are
perpetuated.

in response to the "appreciation" thread that spawned out of "the bitch"
thread: if amy didn't appreciate her fans she wouldn't do all the things
she does for us. do you really think emily was the only one who wanted to
release 1200 curfews or the watershed video? (both are clearly offerings of
love for us fans). i can think of so many other generous things that amy
does for her community, non-profits, other musicians (hello, daemon), and
us fans that "a bitch" would never do. how many times does amy have to say
"thank you" and "we really appreciate this" and "y'all are wonderful"
before you're convinced she actually means it?! i have seen the humble
genuine look of gratitude on amy's face, how could anyone miss it? i don't
expect her to keep it plastered there just to give me a warm fuzzy feeling
about her though. i just can't believe more than one person has agreed
emily *must* appreciate us fans more than amy based on their or a friend's
silly meet-n-greet experience. i have spoken to people who met amy and they
have nothing but fond memories of the experience. maybe they didn't expect
her to stand there with a fakey smile on her face shaking hands while
saying corny things like "i am so happy to meet you." (gag.) ever think
maybe it has more to do with the expectations of some fans than it has to
do with amy's personality?

i can't help but wonder how it would make amy feel if she read this thread.
i've seen "the bitch" thread come and go a few times over the last 16
months and i'm finally saying something. i cringe every time i see it, for
various reasons. i couldn't keep my mouth shut any longer. this makes me
angry even though i know it shouldn't. :\ i think the new comments about
amy not being appreciative is what finally pushed me over the edge. sigh.

kristina

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caroline wrote:
hi everyone.  i live in minneapolis and saw the igs in late september. it was
announced on the radio at the last minute and and advertised at ticketmaster as
an ig concert only.  well, i went and it was a benefit concert for the honors cd
they collaborated on.  they only sang after what seemed like an endless
performance of quite a few hours by some native american groups, for about 30
minutes- maybe even less.  i do not dispute the fact that it was a good cause,
but along with the rest of the fans, we felt misled.  it was not that it was bad
or we resented the cause of the show, just let down in general i guess.  it was
my first time seeing them.  and they told us they would be coming back twice
before march and they have not.
what do you think of this?  i mean, it was cool when they did perform, it was
just the wait seemed to last forever- people were walking out and everyone
seemed a bit miffed.  i wondered even if the igs knew it was being advertised as
an indigo grils concert.


     well i drove from milwaukee to the show and knew it was an honor cd
     release show. i believe the tickets listed the girls and like 3 other
     bands. i agree the wait seemed forever but that could have been the
     obnoxiously loud college kids sitting in front of me :) not that i
     don't like college kids "hi alycia"!!! but these people were sooooo
     rude! anyway...i thought the concert was pretty darn cool!!!
     kira

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i am a big, although relatively new fan of the ig.  i have yet to see them
in concert (this june, hopefully!) but have learned to distinguish their
voices.  what my question is is this: in the pictures, which one is amy and
which is emily?  i feel a bit silly for not knowing this.  just hoping
someone will clarify for me!

thanks.

-- samantha :)

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catherine wrote:

i have to say though, my feelers would be a
>little tweaked if somebody said that somebody else was cuter than me!  oh the
>devistation i would feel :) but if i were nicer than that cuter
>somebody...well, would that make up for it?

oh and i didn't say that either. amy and emily are both equally cute, imo :)
just for the record...

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thanks for all the speedy replies, everyone!  it's so nice to know that
people are out there, listening.

:) :) :)

-- samantha

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at 02:30 pm 4/10/97 +0000, someone wrote:

>i don't think that amy is less friendly per se; i think she is more intense,
>and into what she is doing for a different reason.  there are people who feel
>pushed to achieve certain things, and for amy those things involve helping
>other people.

take this with a grain of salt but a musician friend of mind
in atlanta told me that emily told her that she wrote the song,
"the girl with the weight of the world in her hands", about amy.
that song takes a whole new meaning when looked at from that angle.

tt

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kristina <andrade@az.com>:
{{{it's really thoughtless and inconsiderate to throw around loaded words like
"bitch" when describing someone you don't even know in reality -- and i
don't care how many disclaimers you post with it. newbies to this list will
read that and guess what they take from it? this is how inane rumors are
perpetuated.}}}

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ok, as an admitted newbie i'm going to have to tell y'all that i (like
most people) can sit back and read all the 'gossip' and take it with a
grain of salt. when i'm listening -- it's a personal experience that i
enjoy sharing with other appreciative fans (gonads or otherwise ;) ) but it
always comes back to me. what one person or the other says about the girls
doesn't change the fact that listening to their music is an experience --
and (this is going to sound cheesey, i'm sorry) it's an experience that
you should savor everytime for fear that it might not come again.

do i like amy or em better??? how can you ever really answer that question?
neither would be who they are without the other -- or at least neither would
be who we see them to be without the other (did that make sense to anyone
but me??). the point is that it's the interaction between them that make
them magical -- they feed off eachother as we do them --  and none of us
are the same afterwards. i think we inspire them as much as they inspire
us (me, lest i speak for everyone).

thanks for listening to me babble -- see y'all at the shows  :)  trisha

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is there anyone out there who can tell me how i can get tix to the hartford,
ct show? thanks alot!


ilana

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that character was caricatured...instead of being the normal-joe-gay-man,
it derived its comic purpose by enforcing stereotypes of the lisping,
flaming gay man.  and, as you said, he was not a main character.

on thu, 10 apr 1997, david perham wrote:

> am i the only one old enough to remember billy crystal in the sit-com
> soap?  while not a show revolving around a single main character, his
> was one of the primary roles, and the character was openly gay.

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lillith hits greatwoods 8/22

ig are on lillith tour for 8/9 to 8/23.....

(getting that dialing finger ready for tonight at 7pm)

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i was having lunch in the depot, our campus cafeteria thingie, one time
when i heard shame on you jammin through the airwaves.  it was being
broadcast on the campus radio station that only pipes into the dorms and
the depot.  so today when i was in there i called their request line and
they played it again, and a wonderful fan came out of the woodwork to ask
me how i knew about it, and i gave her the address of the list.  :)  i
also won tickets to a reggae show this weekend.  pretty groovie.

:) marianne

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according to what i have heard (and maybe all her recent interviews will
be addressing this), ellen planned all along to have her character come
out as a lesbian in the third season.  it was written into the contract.
also, since this has been a news story since september, it doesn't seem to
be much of a ratings booster if the show has been around #30 all season.
i really don't remember it ever being a *top* show, though.

on thu, 10 apr 1997, david perham wrote:

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> soap?  while not a show revolving around a single main character, his
> was one of the primary roles, and the character was openly gay.
> and it wasn't because the show was essentially like all the others and
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>(getting that dialing finger ready for tonight at 7pm)

anyone know anything about when lilith tix go on sale for the other shows.
it's in columbus oh on 8/14 and ig are on it.  that's all i know.  any help
is appriciated
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anyone know when tix go on sale for lillith fair at great woods?

and is it true that the girls are going to be touring with the fair at that
time (8/22)?!?!

-- samantha :)

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sue here,

you go girl!    powerful!

twas fun seeing you at the show.  we had a blast, tried to get backstage,
but they were not letting anyone back at all.  our friend deb was in the
wings for the whole show, and said it was neatest standing there watching
ferron and having emily sidle over and say, 'doesn't she write the
greatest lyrics'  all deb could do was agree since she has been a ferron
fan for many years.  she and i drove to portland from eugene to see meg
christian and ferron in 1981.  i saw ferron 3 times that year.  so to see
the girls and ferron together is heaven for me, and deb.  deb said that
for much of the time, amy and emily were standing there beside her
watching ferron and jamie.  they were very impressed by jamie's playing.
she also said that she has never seen a headliner act come and watch the
opening act before, and she has been at this for about 15 years.  anyway,
i haven't posted this to the list as deb said she would write a little
something for me to post, but i felt compelled to tell you :-)  i am
always tickled when you post about how much school you have left.  i am
counting down too.  i have til sept. 11.  i am done with classes in june
and will just be doing internship hours between then and
sept.

back to the books,    sue

marianne barlow wrote:
>
> i was having lunch in the depot, our campus cafeteria thingie, one time
> when i heard shame on you jammin through the airwaves.  it was being
> broadcast on the campus radio station that only pipes into the dorms and
> the depot.  so today when i was in there i called their request line and
> they played it again, and a wonderful fan came out of the woodwork to ask
> me how i knew about it, and i gave her the address of the list.  :)  i
> also won tickets to a reggae show this weekend.  pretty groovie.
>
> :) marianne
>
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hmmm... guess i'll tap a bit on this discussion...
it doesn't really matter to me what amy is like, or what emily is like in
person. my assosciation with them has always been, ( and in all reality,
will always be ) through their music. this is the "conduit" through which i
experience them. it is the thing they expose their inner selves to us
through. we are "intimate strangers" indeed. enjoy the music; love the
harmony and incredible lyrics... know them through that. listen to amy's
lyrics + the things she believes in + feels... when you do that, you are
privaledged to peer into her artistic soul ( geez, listen to this! i sound
like some philosophy nut cake... ):-) would you say the writer behind amy's
songs was a "bitch"? i don't think so. hmmm... too bad that women who are
difficult, intense about what they do, know what they want and act how they
feel are tossed off with the dismissive "bitch", while men are just
considered "aggressive... or determined" or bla bla bla into the infinity of
machismo... sigh, we are a mixed up generation...
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hi...does anyone have a phone number or e-mail address for daemon records?
thanks.
jill

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sorry to be anal, but it's lilith fair, not lillith fair.

also, the only confirmed lilith fair date so far is the one in the seattle
area in july (minus ig), so don't be packing your bags just yet.

deb

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ha, i meant that last post to go to the lone coyote, and look what
happened.  guess deb does not have to write her review now :-0  what a
panic, how did i do that?  least i did not post about losing my bees to
the whole darn list.  ask betsy.  anyway, my buddy deb had a great time
at the eugene show :-)
red faced sue

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> so, does anybody else ever find themself musing on stupid little details of
> ig song interpretations? for example:
>
> *when amy says her "my friend tanner" line in soy, does she mean that tanner
> thinks (s)he keeps fucking up, or that amy does?


yes!  this is exactly what i waste my rapidly dying brain cells on.

in the new lyrics posted from the actual promo insert, the line was:
"...tanner she says she know me and jesus, we're of the same heart...."
                    ^^^
which 1. surprised me cause that's not what i ever heard and 2. almost
has to be amy and jesus

but what i always hear is "...tanner she say 'ya know, me and jesus..."
which would be tanner and jesus.

and if she leaves off the she know/ya know part altogether then its
completely ambiguous.

so, has anybody listened really closely?  i only heard it a couple times
on a noisy radio and yesterday i actually tried to listen to this part
when i was listening to the whole promo (at tower records in hollywood and
a big thanks to the person who posted that it was there!!!) i really
couldn't hear and i didn't want to start the whole song over to figure it
out (i had 11 more to go, and only 1 hour parking...)

> *when emily's father gave her a $10 raise, does that mean he upped it to
> eleven bucks or just handed her a ten dollar bill?

i can't tell you how many times i wondered that.  god, i'm glad i'm not
the only one.

picky details rule!
alison

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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and i thought i was special.....

the lone coyote

~o~
-=|=-   "truth is all i ever wanted when i told you,
/_\     truth is, all i ever wanted was to hold you.
((      nothing else matters except the way we feel."
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--- you wrote:

i have just one more question. (promise) i was wondering what is
everyone's favorite new songs?
--- end of quoted material ---
after listening to sots about 15 times all the way through, and hate me if you
want cause *i'm beautiful* :)....i think my favoritest new song is "shed your
skin". it makes me want put on my cowboy boots and kick it to the curb.... i
just love what amy has done with that song! i wish she'd do it to scooter boys
<snick>

susita

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                                                        susan"

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catherine diederich wrote:
>i'm not going to send joanie hate mail, but every time i read stuff
>like this, i am embarassed.  whether or not this is an opinion, or somebody
>"told" you amy is a bitch, makes no difference to me.  it is posted to the
<snip>

catherine,

i have to agree with you. imho, it's a good idea to consider how amy or
emily might feel if they
were to read a posting. ask yourself "self, how would i feel if i read
that someone said this about me?"

i also agree that, if a&e or friends of a&e read a negative posting on
the list or the usenet group, it does reflect on the list as a whole.
especially given if a&e don't really frequent the list and are only
getting occassional second hand reports.

there is an addage in customer service circles that says something like
"if you satisfy a customer,  they may tell one friend, but if you
dissatisify a customer they will tell ten friends". i think this
illustrates a point that is pertinent here; bad news travels fast. i
think that's true in this situation. if ig or a friend of ig happens to
read this list and hears good things, they may or may not remember the
good things. but, we can be darned well certain that if they read bad
things, they will remember the bad things. and likely they won't
remember that "john doe or jan doe" said something negative or
unflatering about a&e, they will simply remember that a negative or
unflatering thing was posted on the list.

i just really feel that amy & emily have enriched my life so much,
through the gift of their music, that i owe them, at a minimum, the
respect of not repeating rumors, gossip or other negative comments about
them, especially personal comments.

in the end, at least for me, it just comes down to respect for some
folks i hold in high regard.

the above comments are not intended as a flame to anyone posting
personal comments about a&e. i really just mean it as something to think
about.

peace,

dan perkins
tour guide to the obvious,
post-episodic clairvoyant,
bassist/singer/songwriter.

"and at last the world was finally set free,
the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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can someone tell me where exactly great woods is?  hopefully you can
reply before 7:00pm.  i would really appreciate it!

                                jonny

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i was just listening to 1200 when at the end of "ghost" amy goes...thanks!
and emily says, so beautifully...thanks y'all.  due to everything that
we've been talking about, i just wanted to reaffirm how much we all are
thankful to amy and emily!
you guys are all great!  fortunate wons, or listees...i don't
care..just...thanks y'all!
heather...the suddenly life affirming pessimist...=)

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hey, y'all.

        i'm not sure who brought up the sing along thing, but when i'm
listening to ig, i tend to waver back and forth between singing along with
amy and emily.  i usually start off with emily because i'm a sorprano and
my range is pretty similar to hers.  but amy's harmonies are sooo
interesting and fun to sing to, so i often find myself switching over
(although i sometimes have to bring 'em up an octive).  just my 2 pennies
worth.
        i think that the whole personality thread is silly and pointless,
not to mention very hurtful.  let them have a little privacy and let this
one die, ok?
        just wanted to thank everyone for their responses to my indigo
prayer.  i'm sure my friend would appreciate them.

                sarah (who wishes she were an alto so she could really sing

                        along with amy)

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but if you can't be kind to people   i think that magic's in the learning."
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trinket wrote:
>>lthough, somehow, i don't see
amy putting on that frilly shirt and dying her hair blonde for
the never enough cd cover do you?<<

frilly shirt???  what frilly shirt????  for that matter - what shirt?????  on
the cd cover, as i recall, me wasn't wearing a shirt??.........  maybe i'm
wrong???.................

peace & harmony,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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subject:      in defense of amy.......

people used to call me stand-offish and stuck up, too, y'all.  i was a
sufferer of terminal shyness (though obviously i've overcome my fears).
maybe amy is just shy.  a lot of the reports i have heard of so called
"bitchy" behavior on amy's part sound like a lot of things i used to do when
i was scared to talk to people i don't know.  but as all you musicians know,
your personal fears kind of disappear when you have the music that you can
pour yourself into, and give of yourself that way.  some people are able to
overcome shyness, maybe amy's way of overcoming it is by giving of herself
musically when she can't force herself to go up to the crowd and shake hands
and be personable.  being personable can be very very hard when you're
shaking in your doc martens!!!!

just my twopence in defense of the goddess amy  :)

peace & harmony,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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can't remember who initially asked this question, (sorry!) and i know he
said to keep it to private email, but there are people on this list
interested in this discussion (me!) so...
the very fact that ellen's coming out is being made into such a big deal
(time mag, newsweek, a whole season of inuendos, her own internet
discussion list, discussion on this list, controversy everywhere) should
tell you something. it _is_ a big deal, and for good reason. sure there
have been gay characters on tv (like for instance, what the heck is going
on with roseanne's mother??? i stopped watching for one season and...!?)
but in general, gay tv characters have been small-part side characters,
and in general the characters are portrayed as sorta weird, or evil, or a
source of amusement. never _the_main_ character, and one so well liked,
and most importantly (i think) the media has never portrayed the whole
"coming out process." i mean from way back a year ago when her character
first started wondering and hinting. this show has quite thoughtfully
shown this country that gay people are real live actual factual people
just like the goofy gal next door.

oh, and another hint that this whole thing is a big deal and should be
taken seriously: the likes of pat robertson, the editor of family circle
mag, and chrysler all have their panties in a bunch over this. ya know
you're doing something right when you piss these people off. :)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo (the faux amy ;)


still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
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                    i will not be complacent

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thanks for the great woods responses.  i'm still contemplating on
whether or not i should buy tix for it.  i'm not sure if i'll be able to
make it, but at the same time, i want to call at 7:00 and get good seats
if i do go.

    i had a couple of other quick questions......does anybody know any
info on the hartford show and the pnc show?  when do tix go on sale or
have they already?


jonny

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ok i have been getting alot of email asking about the votes.  i guess people
missed the first post.  here goes:

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i just received my very first boot in the mail today [thanks, andi :)] which
includes some michelle malone and, well, what else can i say but "wow!" i'm
sitting hear listening with my heart in my throat...and the last time i felt
this way was the first time i heard a&e! can anyone out there recommend a
good michelle album to begin with?

thanks--
tamara :)

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if the people specified are indeed wearing panties, i would sense
some hypocriticality in the situation, them being males and all...
pat robertson in panties--it just boggles the mind!

> oh, and another hint that this whole thing is a big deal and should
> be taken seriously: the likes of pat robertson, the editor of family
> circle mag, and chrysler all have their panties in a bunch over this.
> ya know you're doing something right when you piss these people off.

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just to let you know... the cover of never enough is a shirtless back view
of melissa with her guitar... the pic with the frilly shirt and blonde
hair is inside :).. although that particular photo was the one used in
promotional things for the album.... just thought i'd add my $0.02
worth... :)

kip,
    britt

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        hey there fellow igfans (how about that for a name?)i have a
question.  recently someone posted and mentioned something about how shed
your skin was on the duets with michael stipe boot (unless i'm just
imagining that for no good reason?!?), and i am listening to the boot right
now and the only song with a similar name (there is no song on the boot w/
the exact same name, not to my knowledge) is "i'll give you my skin" which
doesn't sound anything like shed your skin. i was wondering which song it
was that the person who posted was refering to and if it is definitely on
the duets boot. if anyone could help that would be great.
       well, while i'm posting anyway, to respond to the question about
which of the new songs is my favorite, i like the whole album (no, i don't
have it but they performed it at hofstra and just from that i can say i love
it) but from the original mapped boot (thanks again sundara!!) i fell in
love with get out the map. that song was incredible in all its different
forms on the boot and now from the concert and the 1-800 #, it sounds beyond
incredible so if i had to pick a favorite (i don'tknow, having to pick a
favorite ig song seems like asking a parent to pick a favorite child, you
just love em all!!) i would pick get out the map.
        ok, enough from me for now, feel free to respond to anything i've
asked/said either on the list (if its igc) or privately.

hoping all you igfans are enjoying ig music at the moment like i am,
dave

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hey kind friends,

i've seen two dates for the columbus lillith fair show 8/7 and 8/12.
also, it was posted that the girls will be on the tour 8/9-8/23.  so, does
anyone know what the date for this show is.  if ig are there then, i want
to go. (why else would i be asking? :)  does anyone know of a web site
that has this info, that i could keep track of this w/o bothering the
whole list?  much thanks!!!  peace, melissa

-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in the
world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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hey there again,

ooops!  sorry, i meant... the second columbus date i saw was 8/14...
sorry.  thanks!  peace, melissa

-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in the
world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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in a message dated 97-04-10 16:03:22 edt, cathnshil@aol.com wrote:

<< sure i have opinions(lots of them) about
amy and emily, i try to keep the judgements (yes, i am judgemental, i don't
think its a bad thing) in private mail, or between friends.  yes, i do talk
about hair, clothes, looks, personality of the girls but not usually to the
list.  does anyone else feel this way?  (oh god, i'm frightened...never been
flamed.  first time for everything.) >>


yes, i feel the same way, my general feeling is that you shouldn't post
anything to the list that you wouldn't want amy and emily to read!  i
certainly wouldn't want to be the one who posted the original message calling
amy names and debating who was nicer/cuter, etc...

kerry

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i was wondering around the net and found some more tour dates on the sony
music web site that i haven't seen mentioned on the list. to save time
from typing in the dates i have not read about on the list, i will just
copy all the known dates. sorry about the caps - that's just how they were
written.

4-10-1997 fort worth, tx will rogers memorial center/equestrian center,
amon g. carter exh. hall/bro
4-12-1997 durham, nh university of new hampshire, snively arena
4-13-1997 waterville, me colby college, wadsworth fieldhouse
4-15-1997 university park, papenn state university, eisenhower auditorium
4-16-1997 norton, ma wheaton college/outdoor quad
4-25-1997 auburn, al auburn university, eaves memorial coliseum
5-23-1997 atlanta, ga chastain park amphitheatre
5-24-1997 atlanta, ga chastain park amphitheatre
5-27-1997 richmond, va virginia state fair, classic amphitheater
5-28-1997 vienna, va wolf trap farm park for the performing arts, filene
center outdoor theatr
5-29-1997 vienna, va wolf trap farm park for the performing arts, filene
center outdoor theatr
5-30-1997 philadelphia, pa mann music center, stadium
5-31-1997 hartford, ct the meadows music theater
6-5-1997  holmdel, nj pnc bank/garden state arts center
6-6-1997  mansfield, ma great woods performing arts center, stadium
6-7-1997  saratoga springs, ny saratoga performing arts center (spac)
6-9-1997  montreal, ca st. denis theatre
6-10-1997 canandaigua, ny finger lakes performing arts center, stadium
6-12-1997 cuyahoga falls, oh blossom music center, stadium
6-13-1997 kettering, ohf raze pavilion for the performing arts, stadium
6-14-1997 clarkston, mi new pine knob music theater
6-23-1997 new orleans, la kiefer uno lakefront arena
6-25-1997 the woodlands, tx the woodlands, the cynthia woods mitchell
pavillion
6-26-1997 austin, tx the backyard
6-27-1997 austin, tx the backyard
6-28-1997 dallas, tx coca-cola starplex amphitheatre
6-30-1997 mesa, az mesa community amphitheater
7-1-1997  san diego, ca summer pops bowl
7-2-1997  los angeles, ca greek theatre-la
7-3-1997  los angeles, ca greek theatre-la
7-5-1997  mountain view, ca shoreline amphitheatre
7-7-1997  jacksonville, orbritt pavilion
7-9-1997  saint paul, or champoeg state park amph.

eddie

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>
>i was wondering around the net and found some more tour dates on the sony
>music web site that i haven't seen mentioned on the list. to save time
>from typing in the dates i have not read about on the list, i will just
>copy all the known dates. sorry about the caps - that's just how they were
>written.
>
>
>4-15-1997 university park, papenn state university, eisenhower auditorium

i have seen this isted wrond in several places. the concert will be at
rec hall, not eisenhower. i just would not want anyone to end up on the
wrong side of campus.

but, you would have to walk past the creamery to get to rec hall from
eisenhower, so all would not be lost. :-@>

missy

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quote from the time article:
(reprinted without permission...this is only an excerpt to show her
point of view...)
time: "now that you're out, are you mad that x or y in the entertainment
industry isn't out too?"
degeneres:"no, no. i don't care what x or y does. i didn't do it to make
a political statement. i did it selfishly for myself and because i
thought it was a great idea for the show, which desperately needed a
point of view. if other people come out, that's fine. i mean, it would
be great if for no other reason than just to show the diversity, so it's
not just the extremes. because unfortunately those are the people who
get the most attention on the news. you know, when you see the parades
and you see dykes on bikes or these men dressed as women. i don't want
to judge them. i don't want to come off like i'm attacking them-the
whole point of what i'm doing is acceptance of everybody's differences.
it's just that i don't want them representing the entire gay community,
and i'm sure they don't want me representing them. we're individuals.
it's like seeing scary heterosexuals on talk shows-it's like saying joey
buttafuoco represents the heterosexual population."

there's more to the article...it's really interesting..check it out if
you want to read the rest...time magazine: april14, 1997 p. 86 (there's
a show-related article on pages 78-85)

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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              degrees of separation

hey kind ones (<--- see, now everyone can be happy),

just a few little notes of interest.

first:     the 5/31 show in hartford.  ticket info is still unavailable
because the meadows hasn't released it's summer schedual yet, or something.
"keep trying" the woman tells me . . .

second:    my little sister's elementary school had it's spring fling concert
thingy tonight (her kindergarten class sang some beatles).  the theme was
water, and i turned to my mother and said they should have them sing
watershed.  the woman infront turned around and liked that idea.  then the
multi-age class got up to preform a song called 'river' and i was like "hey,
any chance this is joni mitchells'?" but it turned out it was the water is
wide with slightly different words.

third:    for all you baahhhstaaahhhnians (residents of boston, for you
outsiders), emily is quoted in the globe today.  a really famous singer died
from ovarian cancer (was her name laura nyro?  i know, she's famous and it's
pathetic i've never heard of her; let's just move on.)  they had a nice quote
from the goddess em about her.  it's on the front page of the living arts.

fourth:    my singing teacher and i were dicussing music i listen to last
night, and she was like "oh, did i tell you i was roomates with one of the
indigo girls' sisters' in italy?"  i, of course, asked what her name was and
my teacher said "ummm, i don't know.  i can't remember.   maybe kelly, or kim
. . . she was blonde and attractive . . . hey, this is like that kevin bacon
game!  now you're 4 degrees of separation from an indigo girl!"

=)

-elizabeth

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in a message dated 97-04-10 18:55:06 edt, susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu (susan
b. marine) writes:

>after listening to sots about 15 times all the way through, and hate me if
>you
>want cause *i'm beautiful* :)....i think my favoritest new song is "shed
your
>skin". it makes me want put on my cowboy boots and kick it to the curb.... i
>just love what amy has done with that song! i wish she'd do it to scooter
>boys

i gotta second that...i think shed your skin rocks...and the little drum loop
thing sounds so cool ....

peace
sasha

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hi - just signed back onto this list (after a long absense - it generates
way too many messages for most of us!) and am going to unh on sat. for
the show.  would someone be so kind as to email me the set list, if it
was posted sometime lately, which i am sure it must have been?  thank you
very much in advance,

bj (an older ig fan - almost 48 yrs. young)

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live near boston?
would you like to see the indigo girls perform a rare acoustic set at
mama
kin...for free?

go to the newbury comics website and enter to win.  (you must be 18
years
of age or older.)

the url is:  http://www.newbury.com

the show is thursday the 17th (next week) and the contest ends on the
15th
so enter soon.

ashley

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>> trinket wrote:
>> though, somehow, i don't see amy putting on that frilly shirt and dying
her hair blonde for
>> the never enough cd cover do you?
>
> tigger wrote:
> frilly shirt???  what frilly shirt????  for that matter - what shirt?????
on
> the cd cover, as i recall, me wasn't wearing a shirt??.........  maybe
i'm
> wrong???.................

the back of the cd has me wearing a frilly shirt.

peace,
- jen hall

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okay, i'm a little bummed about sarah's pal *mental hugs* but i am
wondering if anyone knows when tickets for the backyard in austin will
be sold...and also wondering if any of the galvestonites i met that are
from austin have a couch i could sleep on...and i promise not to bring
my stupid "sal-ray" shirt....it's buried along with my
*cough*nkotb*cough* shirts....i also promise to not bring as much
luggage :) i'm planning on taking a personal day from work on friday the
27th and riding the greyhound to austin if accomodations can be
made...if not i'll live...it won't be the first time i've missed a
concert...remember my mother, trant? hehehe...
later....
-sal

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hi everyone -

i posted a few days ago for lyrics and chords (if anyone has them) for
songs from sots.  i also agreed to compile them and send them to
everyone who wants them.  so far, i have lots of folks that want them,
but only 2 songs (dgtgag and cut it out) - lyrics only.  i could have
sworn i've seen other songs posted - so y'all have to come out of your
pentium chips and surface with the lyrics - we have a basic
supply/demand issue happening here!

thanks!

mk

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subject:      grrrrr.... people really tick me off and, i love you all!

so today i wore my ig shirt with the naked woman in front of the paint
by numbers background.  with prompts a girl in my class to say, "i knew
they were lesbians, they even have a naked woman on their shirt!",  and
i (summoning up all my inner strength and will power not to punch her)
said, "why yes, they are." calm, simple, and i walked away,
sufficeintly pissed off.
    gosh, some people just tick me off (especially since that was my
second or third lesbian comment of the day).  do people think about
what they say?  nirvana had a naked baby on their cover, does that make
them, like incestual fiends or something? grrrrrrrr!
    anyway, i love you all so much for the great info i got about
insomnia (which i will soon put to use in a couple hours).  it's good
to know that there is a nice little safe haven of open mindedness here.
speaking of which, in the chicago tribune a couple days ago, their was
and editorial about a musicians mailing list that the writer belonged
to and how wonderful the people are and caring and that all internet
people are not psychotic hale-bopp following psychos.  it reminded me
of all you wonderful people!  yay, ig fans!

love and warm fuzzies from the frozen chicago tundra,
leah

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thanks to those of you that helped me with the catie curtis info and
especially kirsten chevalier for actually taking the time out to type
out the lyrics *smiles'n'hugs* you're a doll!
and sara, i wouldn't dare dream of singing this song without you
there...i'm just preparing early so i can get the song down right and
not furk up... i need to see the smiling faces of friends in the crowd
and i want you to be among them!!....besides, who am i gonna get to
replace my volunteer spotlight job? nobody likes to be way up there and
nobody steers it as good as i do :)....ya gotta keep up with those
lightning fast drag queens...(and i mean no offense in using that
term...i say it affectionately...)
anyway! sorry for the length..thanks again y'all!
-sal

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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        hi all,

        i have a favor to request from those who are more familiar with the state
college area then
i am...i go caving in the area, but have never really been on campus...

        so...would someone kindly email directions to the venue once i hit state
college (i'll be coming from the east), where's the best place to park and
any other pertinent info...

        thanks,

                jen


"hey holy, console me, some power controls me
remorse it, i force it
can't free it, so be it"     ar

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subject:      voting (really this time!!!) and an update

sorry about that last post, y'all, i hit the wrong button!!!  so, for real
now:

i have been getting alot of email about the voting.  i guess some people
missed the first posting, so i will explain again.  :)  i beg pardon of those
of you who already know this, the update's near the bottom!

for you who missed the beginning  :)  we are voting on whether or not we
should refer to ourselves, rather than listees (many people think boring),
call ourselves "fortunate ones."  opinions are varied and can be explained at
leaisure in private e-mail for those who want to know  :)

in favor votes go to:  ndygogrrrl@aol.com
opposed votes go to: jenterp@aol.com
discussion goes to: monstachic@aol.com

voting will be extended to friday for those of you who missed the first
posting.

**********update************
voting totals as of 4/10/97 are:

in favor: 0 votes today, 21 votes total
opposed: 3 votes today, 11 votes total

everyone get your vote in!!!  remember:  do not post your vote to the
list!!!!  also remember that use of the name, even if we vote it in, is
strictly voluntary!!  and other name suggestions will be accepted - i'm
having fun with this.  i'll run separate votings for other names suggested.
send suggestions to monstachic@aol.com

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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i'm sooo lucky.  i can sing both parts. = )  when i'm with my best friend, she sings amy, i sing emily.  when i had strepthroat, i couldn't sing emily...so i had to learn all the amy parts.  my best friend isn't a switch-singer...*grin*  we even drag our friend rich in to sing kid fears...he's michael stipe, of course.

jennifer w.

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hey everyone,

this just in -- wendy bucklew will be playing the troubadour in west
hollywood on thursday, april 17th at 8pm.  that's the good news.  the great
news is that this is a free show and she'll be playing a full set.  i have a
stack of free tickets available, so if you're interested, get in touch with
me via e-mail or phone, and we'll make arrangements to either send you some
tickets or leave them at will call.  don't be shy.  we want to fill up this
room and have a rompin' stompin' time.  the troubadour is one of the best
clubs in l.a. and this is a great opportunity to hear wendy's new stuff.

a lucky crowd gathered at wendy's show in santa monica this past tuesday
night.  a few of wendy's fans drove two hours to hear her and showed up
right as she finished.  so wendy played some songs for them on the back
porch.  word got out that wendy was playing outside, and everyone in the
room went to the porch for more music.  cool stuff.

here's the rest of wendy's schedule at the moment.  hope to see you out
there.  remember, her latest cd, "asleep in the swing" is available
exclusively at her live shows.  thanks for your support.

april 17, 1997:  the troubadour, west hollywood, ca, 8pm, free! (310) 276-1158
april 24, 1997: drama club, santa fe nm -- (505) 988-4373
april 25, 1997: new mexico state university, alamogordo campus, alamogordo nm
april 27, 1997: cafe tazza, taos nm -- 8pm, (505) 758-8706
may 11, 1997: kuumbwa jazz center, santa cruz ca - with caroline aiken
may 13, 1997: john henry's, eugene or -- with caroline aiken
may 15, 1997: tractor tavern, seattle wa -- with caroline aiken

lorene machado
machado entertainment, management and promotion
p.o. box 39952, los angeles, ca  90039, e-mail:  lorene@flylive.com
phone:  (818) 787-2468, fax:  (818) 787-3031, alpha pager:  (800) 800-9724
caroline aiken website:  http://www.hidwater.com/aiken/
wendy bucklew website:  http://www.hidwater.com/wendy/

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date:         thu, 10 apr 1997 21:09:35 pdt
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okay...since no one corrected me on the name "blood quantum", (were there really only two of us from the list at the tulsa concert???) i really need the lyrics.  they are not on the lifeblood site (btw...don't make the mistake of typing in 'www.lifeblood.com'...it's like a blood bank, or something...*l*) or on another i checked.  the lyrics really struck me last night, and i'd really like them.  can anyone help?  thanks.  = )

jennifer w.

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date:         thu, 10 apr 1997 22:42:51 -0400
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from:         "j \"tigger\" kickliter" <emilyamy@aol.com>
subject:      re: singing along

i sing it all!  my range is totally amazing, i can even do mariah carey's
high parts, and amy's lowest parts.  my problem is that i can't do it *on
key* or else i'd be in hollywood making megabucks instead of dealing with
bratty little deaf middleschoolers every day!!!  usually i sing melody,
simply because i love to sing & keeping quiet when the harmony keeps quiet is
impossible for motormouth me!!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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hey y'all!  well, i have good news and i have bad news.  the good news is
that our tickets are purchased, and from what i know, they're good seats.
:)  the lovely joe mackey went out this morning and bought them with our
money.  the bad news is that the tickets won't be ready to be picked up
until thursday at the earliest, and monday, 4/21 at the latest.  obviously,
this is not a very well planned concert by the people at auburn.  i'm not
sure how they expect us to successfully distribute group tickets with 4
days to spare.  i have s.a.s.e's from many of the people who ordered
tickets, but the majority of those would be cutting it too close to send.
they may not get in the mail from here until 4/22, and that is too close
for comfort.  so, i guess the only option left is to get together before
the show like some of us had planned to do.  my idea is that we could have
a place to meet up for dinner or something before the show, and then i will
volunteer to wait outside for the people who can't make it for dinner.  i'm
willing to wait for everyone until about 10 minutes before the show starts,
but then i really want to be in there.  if anyone has better suggestions,
i'd love to hear them.  also, if you ordered tickets with me and you will
be late to the concert, email me and let me know so we can work something
out.  take care everyone!!!
sue

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man...you guys are going to hate me by the end of the day.  okay...the mail sent out earlier explaining the blood quantum thing...i deleted it.  i thought for sure that i had saved it to word.  apparently not.  if someone could (sorry, sorry, sorry) send it to me, i'd really appreciate it, and promise to not gloat anymore about talking to emily *big grin*.  i've received the lyrics, so you don't have to do that (thanks jen lucero, and carrie!!!).  thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jennifer w.

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here is the address for daemon records:
po box 1207
decatur, ga 30031

they will send you a neat catalog if you send them a $.55 stamp along with
your name and address

check out the website too:
http://www.monsterbit.com/daemon

enjoy-
emily gore
ebgore@hubcap.clemson.edu

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subject:      dear god! open mouth, enter foot (nigc)

--- kerry wisely wrote:
yes, i feel the same way, my general feeling is that you shouldn't post
anything to the list that you wouldn't want amy and emily to read!
--- end of quoted material ---
guess i should use this method a little more often :) i mean, nads and cheese
and hallmarkidays and stuff...you people need to shut me up more often!

xoxo, sus
"you'll never go back..."
                                                - an anonymous supercool
e-friend

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subject:      i shuts up after this (igc)

--- you wrote:
6-9-1997  montreal, ca st. denis theatre
--- end of quoted material ---
oui oui mon cheries! c'est bien, ca!
any info on this date like le nombre du telephone would be tres apprecie'

susanna, who needs an excuse to visit her canuck neighbors and thinks she just
found it!

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> > *when amy says her "my friend tanner" line in soy, does she mean that tanner
> > thinks (s)he keeps fucking up, or that amy does?
>
> in the new lyrics posted from the actual promo insert, the line was:
> "...tanner she says she know me and jesus, we're of the same heart...."
>                     ^^^
okay, i am sitting here listening to it on my las cruces boot (thanks
veronica!!!) and it sounds like it could be "my friend tanner she says
she know...", but that may just be the power of suggestion working on me.
up until now i thought it was the other way...  my case for "ya know" was
that it is like a conversation between amy and tanner... tanner is bummed
because he/she keeps fucking up, and amy says, "come on down to chicano
city park" as a way of making tanner feel better.  but then, you can't
really argue with the lyrics in the liner, can you?  :)  oh well, just my
late night wanderings... i don't know what's up with me, but i've burst
out of lurkdom in full force... whew, better take a breather!  :)

counting the days until 4/29, when i can pore over the picky details in
the new album,
katherine

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subject:      public apology

like i said, i wasn't sending hate mail to joanie, however i did quote the
wrong person.  seems that message had been taken from another piece of mail.
so so sorry the point though was not to humiliate anyone.  the point was to
say that who/whom ever it was that wrote the original message and posted it
to the list shouldn't have.  in fact i probably shouldn't have reproduced the
mean thing someone said about the fabulous amy ray.  all my lazy eyes saw was
this:

"in a message dated 97-04-10 01:07:33 edt, edwina@jax-inter.net (joanie)
writes:"   (then all that stuff from before...blah blah blah i won't repeat
it-catherine)

i thought this was your original message and you were saying what uh, you
heard and did anyone agree.   joanie/jendy...i'm very sorry.
catherine

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subject:      re: ig in austin...trant? linda? margot? got a couch?

wait a second. why did i not know about this whole austin thing?!?!?!?!?!
another chance for me to see them?!?!?!?! please please please tell me
more.....

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hey ya'll. this was in the seattle times today. it is part of a larger
article about new releases in april. and there is a picture of amy and emily.

april 29
"indigo girls return with "shaming of the sun' (epic) featuring more
sophisticated production values and "enhanced" multimedia content for
cd-rom play"

jeni (and tracy says "hi")

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subject:      :) they told me off!

those right wing people are wimps. i finally got one to tell me off!

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subject:      re: free wendy bucklew show, l.a.

can i ask dumb questioin?  who in the h-e-doublehockeysticks is wendy
bucklew?

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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hi all, the girls are coming here in about two weeks, and we heard today
that a band called "loop*a*teens: or something similar to that, will be
with them. my question: do any of you know who this is, have you ever
heard their music?
thanks
bjp

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* patterj@mail.auburn.edu*  learn to cherish that boisterous*
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hey y'all-
i've been calling protix (the meadows' ticket sellor) and they've told me to
keep checking!   they don't have any info. yet.
also- who's going to wheaton?  i'm going but can't get there much before 4 or
5.  is there anyone willing to save me a spot in line?  it would certainly be
a great help!  thanks y'all.  i'll keep checking protix and i'll let everyone
know as soon as i hear something!
-emily
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hi, i just read a message that mentioned a new ellen list similar to this
one, could someone please repost the address.....
also, i just have a comment about the whole "the people at auburn didn't
plan this well", our school doesn't usually get big names like this, and
they are trying their best to make it sell out. if i were you i would just
be thankful that you already have tickets. i'm a student here and i shell
out $800 a quarter in tuition and fees and i am personally very upset that
the students do not get first dibs on tickets....
just my $.02
bjp

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subject:      re: amy's personality

a few more cents..

i care about personalities to the point that i wouldn't want to listen to a
serial child killers' music, for example, just on principle, no matter how
much i liked it.  the ig's are people/musicians first.  if someone wants to
pick apart "personalities" based on an interviewer's perspective - oh well..
have at it.

i am in my 40's and the ig's are the only musicians that i can say i have
ever been a serious fan of - saying who was my favorite beatle in the 4th
(5th? 6th?) grade was just something we had to do in order to get by..

i take this music not as looking into amy or emily but looking into myself.
that seems to be the draw here; the music expresses thoughts/feelings that
were already within myself.  but i've never had the ability to articulate
them in any way through any medium no matter how hard i tried.

here is just one example - whenever i hear fugitive i don't think about the
ig's.  i think about a dirty deal i got on a job a couple of years ago, and
how i felt when i drove my jeep out of that daggone place.   this was a
painful experience at the time, and that song gave me a great deal of
comfort.

so maybe amy and emily are exposing their "inner selves."  i don't know for
sure.  but i do know that they allow me to at least believe that i am not
alone in so many things.  and i have always thought that this is what their
music is all about and what we have in common.  the thoughts and feeling are
certainly a little more complex than "baby i wanna do ya" type music.
(usually)

bitch is a bit harsh, i think, but let's go with that word.  the "dark" side
isn't always a bad side, and everything isn't so darned black and white!!
any puppy on here who doesn't have a streak-o-bitch is missing out on a big
chunk of life.  but yes - it is a dismissive word.  and what a regression!
on one hand, everyone tries to be oh so pc about gay/lesbian, then we get
this categorical bitch word floating around (scratching my head still).

as for men who act agressive, intense, etc., whenever i feel that way about
someone, i come home and say - gawd what an jerk he is!!  (or creep, or a few
choicier other words).  there just isn't a generic male equivalent of bitch
though.. unless its sob, in which case some bitch is referred to anyway.

and whatever happened to the classical temperamental artist stereotype?  some
women have been dropped in this box, but maybe they have to be diva types or
something.

sorry to ramble.. i'm just procrastinating.

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subject:      ig in oregon 7/7 and 7/9 ticket info.

  hey y'all!

lawyerman posted from the sony www site that ig
would be playing:

7-7-1997  jacksonville, or britt pavilion
7-9-1997  saint paul, or champoeg state park amph.

so i cruised the www to verify and.......

7-7-97 ig at the britt pavillion, jacksonville or. 5 miles west of medford
       show starts 7pm. special guest tba. tickets $26 all reserved. $23 lawn.
       box office # 541-773-6077 or toll free 1-800-882-7488

       i have not called to see when the tickets go on sale but i shall in the
morning.

7-9-97 ig champoeg state park. could find nothing on the www, except a phone
number for the park. 503-234-9694. that's it. i'll call them in the morning as
well.

   tt y'all l

   ron

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hey, all you bostonians.  i'm a huge ig fan and a chronic lurker on the
list. i've been signed off for a week or so due to school pressure, but i
have to share this...

i have tickets from kiss 108 to the mamma kins party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i couldn't be happier.

however, the party is 21 and over.  i'm almost 19.  can anyone help me?  i
will die if i do not see the girls at this show.  i have loved their music
since i was 14.

please email me privately at hoff@fas.harvard.edu and i will be ever so
eternally grateful!

with hopes for ids in a week!
gretchen

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of shoes - and ships - and sealing-wax -
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and why the sea is boiling hot -
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lewis carroll

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hey everybody!!!!!

i just got back from the tcu show and i have to say that it was
great!!!!!!!

okay, so i meet up with tony and the rest of the listees (hi
everybody!!!)  around 6:15 and show everyone the beautiful present stuff
(there were pictures taken, we'll see how they come out).  then tony and
i decide not to wait any longer and go try to find the tour manager.
that was a wee bit complicated, very busy man.  we go to were the doors
are (and can hear a&e in soundcheck, this train revised!) and ask for
the tour manager and get blank looks, so we keep asking and finally a
supervisor comes and helps us a little and then tells us just to go to
the back doors and try to find someone from the tour.  sounds easy,
huh?  after waiting at a couple of different backstage doors (there were
three of them and we chose the wrong ones on our first two tries), we
moved on to the third (as they say, third times a charm!).  we open the
door and a security guy is like "who are you, what are you doing here,
yadda, yadda"  tony explains who we are and all the fun stuff and asks
if we can get a message to the tour manager when who appears but  .. .
the tour manager!!! (ha, you thought i was going to say a&e!)  anywho,
we don't get a chance to talk to him cause he was making a phone call at
the time, but we do get the message to him.   he reads it while talking
on the phone and then comes out and tells us a&e were doing an interview
and then had to go have dinner and then they had to go back to the
hotel, but we could catch them on their way from the interview.  so tony
and i are waiting around outside (it seemed like forever) and then the
manager pops his head out and tells us to come in and wait for a&e.  so
we wait at the top of these stairs (very small staircase) and amy and
emily appear!!  the only way i can describe it is surreal.  i mean
hearing amy and emily's voices and knowing it wasn't a recording, but
that they were talking to me and shaking my hand!  tony and i introduce
ourselves and then quickly proceed to the presentation (we didn't want
to take up too much of their time).  i told amy that we were from  the
internet mailing list and that we had raised $2500 for hte in
celebration of her birthday.  her response was "oh, wow!  that's a great
gift!!  thanks!  we need it!"  tony and i thank her for inspiring us and
for all of her work for different organizations.  tony said something
like "i'm sure you hear this all the time, but it's true" and amy said
"no, it's great to hear things like that, it lets us know that there is
a connection"  emily was looking on and listening from the bottom of the
staircase and was like "how did y'all do this?"  i then explained the
whole process and they seemed pretty impressed!!  we asked if we could
get autographs (they autographed 1200 curfews for me which was really
cool cause it was my first ig cd and it just seemed like a whole circle
thing to me)  then we asked if we could take a picture and they agreed
(emily asked us if we wanted her in the picture, i think you know what
our response was!).  while taking the picture they said that they had to
go have dinner and make the set list.  tony piped in at that time and
said that i had a request and emily said "oh, yeah, what is it?" and i
asked for either secure yourself or hand me downs for a friend of mine
who has been having a really tough time lately.  a&e looked at each
other and said "well, we could do hand me downs."  tony and i thanked
them again and said happy birthday to amy, handed over all the stuff and
left.  it was truly amazing!!!  i can't believe anyone would call amy
(or emily either) anything but sweet and cool!!  they were so nice to
tony and i!  i'm still kinda not believing the whole experience (i was
told several times that i was glowing for the rest of the night, it was
great!!!)

anywho, onto the concert itself, it rocked!!!  they played secure
yourself!!!!!  my friend was in total shock, it is her all time favorite
song and she was convinced she would never hear it live, but they played
it!!!  i was so happy for her! the girls are amazing!

all the new stuff rocks, the crowd was great (at least my section of the
crowd, stood the whole time!!!)  emily came on and called us the ft.
worth guinea pigs.=)  we danced, sang a lot, had a great time.  amy
seemed to be very impressed with the crowd (she smiled a lot) and looked
like she was having fun,  but emily seemed a little tired (she mentioned
on the radio today that she had a cold and she coughed during a song,
but it wasn't very noticable, in between verses) but she still was great
and looked like she was having fun.  they played a lot of the new songs
(get out the map, soy, caramia, shed your skin, scooter boys, chiapas
bound, everything in it's own time, hey kind friend, am i forgetting
any?) plus mystery, least complicated, virginia woolf, galileo, lots of
others (somebody else can do the exact setlist and the fashion report).
anywho, it rocked!!!!  and one of my friends caught a pick!!!  well,
scrambled for it, but still got it!!  it was fun, and a true night to
remember . . .

i must go to bed now, i haven't slept at all this week, me getting tired
(even with all the happy thoughts).  i'll post more later.

night,
mandingo

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date: thu, 10 apr 1997 23:29:16 -0700
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hi!
        i know i am probably not the most well-informed of wendy's fans and
you may get more (and better) answers from others...but i had to put in my
2 cents in case no one else did...
        my sister started listening to wendy bucklew in atlanta last year,
she played mostly little atlanta-area clubs and lisa (my sis) was hooked
after the first show. she brought the cd home at christmas (we live in
orange county) and i got completely hooked on wendy's music. it's the same
genre as indigo girls...kind of a folk-rocky mix. very catchy. she (wendy)
grew up in the la area and moved back out here around the new year sometime
and so lately she's been playing in the la area (lucky lucky us!!!). if you
live out here, you should definitely check her out....the shows are always
really good and if you are anything like me you end up listening to the cd
for days after. i got the new cd "asleep in the swing" two nights ago at
rusty's surf ranch and it hasn't left the cd player yet.
        anyway, enough on that. if anyone's going on the 17th, i'll see you
there!

take care,
sherri


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damn!  it's 3:30 in the morning and i made the mistake of watching my new
u. penn video bootleg (thanks to chris iiicivviii??) and now i'm all kinds
of wired up.  so here's the query.  i'm wanting to do like a log of all
the biblical references in ig songs.  here's what i have so far in my
tired little over-taxed brain:

land of canaan (obviously)
jonas and ezekial (i know, it's about 2 slave graves, but it's kinda
biblical in the names and whatnot
dancing between the altar and the mercy seat
hey jesus, whole song
strange fire, whole song
when i needed something someday i would read the good book
don't be throwing stones
we go to the bible, read up on revival, etc.
it was hard to turn the other cheek
in the turn of a cheek when your vision stays clear
the wood song???  (like, the noah's ark thing)

ok, i'm out.  i'm including cover tunes, old stuff, pretty much anything
y'all can think of.

please respond privately, and then i'll compile it all and send it over
the waves!

i wanna go to sleeeeeeeeeeeppp!
chris ii

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hi all!  good golly it's late!  ok, so here's my dilemma.  unless there
are 2 sets of amies and emilies running about the planet (could god be so
kind?), the girlies did not play las cruces and mesa az on the same day,
august 26, 1996.  i spent two whole hours putting my bootlegs in
chronological order just to figure this out, so what gives?  my copies are
both dated 8/26/96.  huh????

also, does anyone know the date of the santa fe show of 1996?  anyone?
beuler?  beuler?  anyone?

my kingdom for an hour,
chris ii

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don't feel too bad.  i'm a student at emory (the alma mater of ig) and i
shell out $13,000 a semester in tuition and fees and they're not even
coming here.  feel thankful they're coming to your school.

please don't flame me.  :)

elizabeth


i'm a student here and i shell
>out $800 a quarter in tuition and fees and i am personally very upset that
>the students do not get first dibs on tickets....

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your molecules across space and then reassemble them. the only problem is
that you have to trust your co-worker to operate the transporter. these are
the same people who won't add paper to the photocopier or make a new pot of
coffee after taking the last drop."
                        -dilbert

"but i guess the nice thing about driving a car is that the physical act of
driving itself occupies a good chunk of brain cells that otherwise would be
giving you trouble overloading your thinking.  new scenery continually
erases what came before; memory is lost, shuffled, relabeled and forgotten.
gum is chewed; buttons are pushed; windows are lowered and opened.  a fast
moving car is the only place where you're legally allowed to not deal with
your problems.  it's enforced meditation and this is good."
                        -douglas coupland, life after god

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trinket wrote:

>>>lthough, somehow, i don't see
>amy putting on that frilly shirt and dying her hair blonde for
>the never enough cd cover do you?<<

and tigger responded:

>frilly shirt???  what frilly shirt????  for that matter - what shirt?????  on
>the cd cover, as i recall, me wasn't wearing a shirt??.........  maybe i'm
>wrong???.................

melissa is wearing a frilly white shirt in the pic on the back cover of that
cd. i had the same reaction at first, so i just had to check! ;) and that
wasn't just blonde...that was blonde! ;■ go, melissa!

mary e.

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eichman@polarnet.com      i feel i've been running for miles
mary t. eichman            happy times don't last long
po box 55753                i finally got there
north pole, alaska           and it's too late to smile"
99705-5753
                                       ~amy ray
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--<snipped from lawyerman's tour date post>--------
>7-3-1997  los angeles, ca greek theatre-la
>7-5-1997  mountain view, ca shoreline amphitheatre
>7-7-1997  jacksonville, orbritt pavilion
>7-9-1997  saint paul, or champoeg state park amph.
---------------------------------------------------

hmmm...am i jumping to conclusions here, or do these venues indicate that ig
will be working their way towards alaska?!? please oh please!!!!!!!!!

mary e. (who...and i'm sure i've mentioned this numerous times before, just
a sad attempt to generate pity!...has never seen ig live ever and is
*crossing her fingers*)


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mary t. eichman            happy times don't last long
po box 55753                i finally got there
north pole, alaska           and it's too late to smile"
99705-5753
                                       ~amy ray
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could this possibly be the "rock*a*teens" ??  they are on daemon
records...the only thing of theirs i know is off the feral sampler from
daemon, and (i think but i'm probably going to embarrass myself by being
totally wrong since i don't have the tape in front of me) they do a song
called the latin social (please someone did i mix them up with a different
band?). even if that particular song isn't theirs, i know that i love
everything on the feral sampler, so that would include the rock*a*teens.
how would i describe latin social? hmm kinda rockabilly-mellower-punky
kinda....

and what, you might ask, is the feral sampler, while we're on the subject?
it's one of two (at last count) tapes that has a track each of many daemon
artists, and daemon sells it through their catalog and website for a mere
$5.  if you think you might like to hear some of the daemon artists but
aren't sure where to start, i highly recommend getting this tape.  the
price is right and the music is excellent.

i probably have this wrong as well, but their web addy is something like
www.monsterbit.com/daemon/
??anyone else want to jump in here??

on fri, 11 apr 1997, littlebit wrote:

> hi all, the girls are coming here in about two weeks, and we heard today
> that a band called "loop*a*teens: or something similar to that, will be

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this is my favorite concert review yet.
thanks you guys for getting this together!!  i'm so glad you got to meet
them, and that amy was so happy with our present.  what a cool experience.
in a way i wish i had been there (duh!) but i would have just felt like an
idiot with nothing to say except 'wow i love your music, you're so great"
and all that...it sounds like you guys handled yourselves very well, and i
feel well represented by you two!! thanks guuys!
oh, and...
happy birthday amy!
i know it's sat but...
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday dear amy!!
happy birthday to you!

p.s. be sure to put up a web page with all the pictures so we can all be a
part of it! :)

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the band is called the rock*a*teens and they are from atlanta (cabbagetown, to be exact) and are on daemon records. chris, chris, kelly and justin are the band and they sling em low and play em loud!!! if you aren't used to it, bring earplugs. it'll come through loud enough still! lots of distortion, reverb and angst. lead singer has sort of an early-early clash sound. sort of. they just rock. that is all. they have two cds out, both on daemon. newest is called cry. i recommend it. black ice rumbles!

no peace here,

susan

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hi all, the girls are coming here in about two weeks, and we heard today
that a band called "loop*a*teens: or something similar to that, will be
with them. my question: do any of you know who this is, have you ever
heard their music?
thanks
bjp

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>april 29
>"indigo girls return with "shaming of the sun' (epic) featuring more
>sophisticated production values and "enhanced" multimedia content for
>cd-rom play"

ooooh!!  wonder what the multimedia stuff'll be...hmmm..let's think...  an
informative interactive guide to changing guitar strings... an encyclopedia
of homegrown tomato recipes...a little game where you get to pick their
stage outfits - (warning - quick game - limited choice of t-shirts,
overalls, boots and baseball caps available  ;) )... or p'raps an arcade
style game featuring little amy and emily sprites on a mission to save the
planet, zapping the princes of darkness with blasts of social conscience
from their phasers (or is that ray-guns) and trying to make it through to
the upper echelons......

seffy
(humour me... it's been a loooooong week...)

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subject:      sad news :(  nigc but laura nyro

laura nyro passes away at her connecticut home

singer/songwriter's influence shaped american popular music

laura nyro, one of the most influential singer/songwriters in
contemporary american popular music, succumbed to ovarian
cancer on tuesday, april 8, in her danbury, connecticut, home.
the singer/songwriter was 49 years old and her son, gil
bianchini, and companion, maria desiderio, were with ms. nyro
at the time of her passing.

"laura nyro was a true original," commented sony music
entertainment president and chief operating officer thomas d.
mottola.  "when she burst on the scene in the late 1960s, no one
had ever heard songs or singing like that before, and they haven't
since.  she laid the groundwork for an entire generation of
singer/ songwriters."  sony music entertainment extends
condolences and sympathy to the family, friends, and fans of ms. nyro.

laura nyro was born in bronx, new york, on october 18, 1947.
drawing from influences including soul, jazz, blues, r&b,
folk-based and classical music, she created classic songs
like "wedding bell blues," "stoney end," "and when i
die," "eli's comin'," "stoned soul picnic," "save the country,"
and many others.  she made her first extended professional
singing appearance at the age of 18, performing at the
hungry i coffeehouse in san francisco.  a year later (1966),
she recorded her first album, more than a new discovery
(released on verve/ folkways, january 1967; re-released as the
first songs on
columbia records, january 5, 1973).  ms. nyro came to columbia
records in 1968 and released eli and the thirteenth confession on
march 3 of that year.  her subsequent albums include new york
tendaberry (columbia, september 24, 1969); christmas and the
beads of sweat (columbia, november 25, 1970); gonna take a
miracle (columbia, november 17, 1971); smile (columbia,
december 25, 1977); season of lights (columbia, june 1977);
nested (columbia, june 1978); mother's spiritual (columbia,
january 1984); laura -- live at the bottom line (cypress/a&m, 1989);
walk the dog and light the light (columbia, september 1993); and the
best of laura nyro -- stoned soul picnic (columbia/legacy, january 1997).

laura nyro's voice was described by daily variety as "...astonishing... a
kind of melting, pure-toned soprano, loaded with feeling, that seems
drawn in equal measure from some private inner cathedral, and the
doo-wop streets of her youth."  her spirit lives on in the music
she created and the artistry she inspired in others.

a private gathering of ms. nyro's friends and family will be
held in her memory.  those wishing to send flowers are encouraged
instead to make a contribution in her memory to:

the revici center
200 west 57th street, suite #1205
new york, new york 10019
212.246.5122

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>6-26-1997 austin, tx the backyard
>6-27-1997 austin, tx the backyard

can i just complain some...i will miss them here for the second time in a
year...last fall by two days and this time by 18.  argh....why am i in
japan????
-s-

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i met tony, tony met amy, tony is meeting me for lunch on the 30th!!!
hehehe....don't wash that hand!!! *snickers* just kidding!!

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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it was written earlier...

>>april 29
>>"indigo girls return with "shaming of the sun' (epic) featuring more
>>sophisticated production values and "enhanced" multimedia content for
>>cd-rom play"
>
>ooooh!!  wonder what the multimedia stuff'll be...hmmm..let's think...  an
>informative interactive guide to changing guitar strings... an encyclopedia
>of homegrown tomato recipes...a little game where you get to pick their
>stage outfits - (warning - quick game - limited choice of t-shirts,
>overalls, boots and baseball caps available  ;) )... or p'raps an arcade
>style game featuring little amy and emily sprites on a mission to save the
>planet, zapping the princes of darkness with blasts of social conscience
>from their phasers (or is that ray-guns) and trying to make it through to
>the upper echelons......

hiya out there...one and all!  just wanted to say this was the highlight of
my day!  maybe i should pitch the video game to these little japanesey
electronic wizards!  of course, all the profits would go to hte.

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hey y'all--

i'm outta town for the next week, so i'm signing off for a while. if you need to contact me, please do so via private e-mail.

also, if you sent me private mail in the last couple of days, you may need to re-send it.  i've been super busy and have had to delete a lot.


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hey everyone.....just reading through the posts of the past few hours, and
came across one about amy's personality from kate....

i couldn't agree with you more.  i believe that amy and emily are entirely
different people hwo have found a way to merge and work with one another
in order to help us take a deeper look at ourselves.  not to start this
whole amy person and emily person thread thing again, but there is a definate
distinction between who you related more to.

i guess the way i would put it is the way i said it to my roommate one
night when we were in the middle of "amy vs. emily" songs on the cd player.
she said, "emily makes me happy, and no one tells a story of lost love like
emily.....she is so poetic and beautiful..."  to which i replied, "yeah, well
amy makes me want to smash down walls with a sledgehammer when i am feeling
happy and wild, and no one, but noone, says "slit your wrists and bleed to
death slowly in your own pain" like amy.

what their personalities boil down to is passion, but expressed differently
by both.  and everyday, we all can relate to what a&e say in one way or
another.

peace, love, and an ig smile-

karrie


ps.  5 more days til penn state!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pss. 42 til blossom and 44 til pine knob!!!!!!!!!!!!

and if you think that's bad, i am hoping they will do upstate new york too!
and jimmy buffett is at the end of summer.  i believe i am going to be concertedout by august....  :)

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fellow ig worshippers,

just wanted to extend a hi as a very new member to the list.  thanks to those who
helped me get my subscribing straight:-)

i want to start a boot collection and am very willing to trade a blank tape as i have no
boots to trade.  anyone willing?  please e-mail me privately and let me know.  i would be
beyond appreciative.

one more note...does anyone know of any ig plans to be around the pittsburgh area?  i
have this goal to see them before i go off to swarthmore college in the fall and am
absolutely horrified because i haven't heard of any dates close to me yet.   help!


alisa
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this world falls on me
hopes of immortality

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i feel like i am contributing to this ongoing debate but what makes it easy
for me to let all this pass me by, is what amy said in one of her
interviews. paraphrasing liberally, what she said was that the reason they
went so well together was because amy by herself was too much amy, and
emily by herself was too much emily. that to me, is the essence of their
match, one that has given all of us a lot of pleasure.

i know i am just a newbie, but must we talk about who these people are in
"real" life based on a few chance encounters or our own personal
"intuitions"? do we have to be judgmental? can't we just enjoy the music
and let the rest go? it's not a competition, who is cuter, who is nicer,
who is more/less intense. they just are. and i am grateful that they are
who they are. just my .02 as y'all say :)

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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hello fortunate ones,

i was just wondering if we ever decided to sing happy birthday to amy on
sat. night.  if so when are we going to do it?  if we haven't decided yet,
how about after soy?  if someone could let me know what's up i'd appreciate
it.

thanks,

lanie ;)

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in a message dated 97-04-10 19:52:36 edt, a bouncy orange thing wrote:

<< as i recall, me wasn't wearing a shirt??.........  maybe i'm
wrong???................. >>

no, you aren't wrong....me wasn't wearing a damn thing from the waist
up....unfortunately for us, it wasn't a frontal shot ;)

dawn

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at 9:54 am 4/11/97, elayna bittner wrote:

>i was just wondering if we ever decided to sing happy birthday to amy on
>sat. night.  if so when are we going to do it?  if we haven't decided yet,
>how about after soy?  if someone could let me know what's up i'd appreciate
>it.

sounds like a plan lanie...unless someone else has a better idea, i say we
go with it.....

joni  <---  holder of tix in sec 3 at great woods...which, apparently, is
the *joan* section, since joan ferguson is in sec 3 as well....

:o(  ...and unfortunately, the *sue* section is section 6......   :o(

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well, i don't quite know what the current subject is.  i unsubscribed
from the list (i have a really important computer project, and i'm
expecting really important email) but i couldn't stand it. i have to be
here! fort worth was great! i got to meet listees tony, bill, kay lewis,
trant bailey,lisa johnson, and amy rush. (in the order i met them in)i
also got to meet lots of other cool people.

my friend locked her keys in her car, but luckily we got that taken care
of before the first band got on stage. my first concert was excellent.
i love the way a & e interact with theor audience.  they sang (i don't
know if they're in the right order)

the wood song
secure yourself
get out the map
shed your skin
this train
mystery galileo
caramia
virginia wolfe
thin line
chickenman
****then they left and came back and sang
chiapas bound
least complicated
closer to fine

they had cool shirts, swamp ophelia bumper stickers and buttons on sale,
and sots promo posters that you just had to grab. that's about all that
i will post to the list.

amber

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okay, children, bear with me...it's been a long night and i am tired.

ahem...<insert much idiotic jumping up and down here>.....

i finally got to hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the damn song's been out for how long?????

in all fairness, i like the banjo.  i'm not a big banjo fan, in fact, i tend
to find the banjo a truly offensive and repulsive instrument (along the lines
of the bagpipes),  but it works.  i can't explain how, but it does.  and, as
much as i hate to say it, i can see it going top 40 very easily.  although i
shudder to use the word -- i tend to associate it with cheerleaders and other
obnoxiously happy things -- it's perky (yes, i said perky) enough to catch
on.  it's got one of those happy, toe-tapping beats that's going to get stuck
in your head.  (insert brief snippet of "one headlight" <the wallflowers>
here)

okay, i'm done now.  forgive me?

dawn
(who doesn't feel much like a fortunate one right now...i'm too damn tired)

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hey y'all,

i told a massachusettsian friend about the great woods show, and she said
she tried calling ticketmaster last night when tix theoretically went on
sale, but they told her they didn't have a show listed so obviously they
couldn't sell her tickets for it.  anyone else had any luck?

thanks for all your help!

deb

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just fyi, i just spoke with the box office at the backyard (austin, tx).
the person i spoke with said that ig are indeed coming, but as of today
(friday april 11) there are no *confirmed* dates or ticket information
available.

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the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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ooooooh i think they will have the carnage tour game.  drive the big maroon
van through the road that was put in the middle of a pasture.  try and get
from houston to austin without hitting anything...ever.  5 points for every
animal you miss.  5 points for giving up meat.  10 points for communicating
with man (the one with all of the road kill in his hair and the bright green
eyes) via vulcan mindmeld.  at the end of the game, like every other time,
you will just walk away.

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thanks to all who answered my great woods question!  this list is the
greatest!  other lists i've been on you can ask a simple question and not
even get one reply -- i got 4 within like 1/2 hour of when i posted!  you
folks are too cool!

deb the happy indigeek!

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does anyone out there who has a copy of sots know the names of the songs,
in order?  i have a copy, but no list of songs.....

thanks!

karrie

ps.  email me privately!  thanks again!


             "water retention is not new to me...."
                                  -emily saliers

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ok,

   here's a plan:

   we meet at the tin palace (casual, pizza, sandwiches, veggie burgers,
etc) from about 6:00 - 7:30  (concert starts at 8).  it may be a little
crowded so look for us towards the back of the non-smoking section (which
is most of the restaurant).  if you have a list shirt or the swamp ophelia
pin, wear that so we can recognize each other.  if its cold, i'll probably
be wearing a black babylon 5 sweatshirt.

   directions (no guarantees!):  from rt. 4, take the durham/unh exit
(4?), turn left and go under the bridge.  proceed into town where the
streets turn into a large one-way circle/square.  tin palace will be on
your left, next to federal savings bank, and across the street from
hubbleson dining hall.  the address is 3 ballard street, but it's really
on main street.  the tin palace phone number if you want more information
or directions is 603-868-9868.

   park on the street wherever you can, or at the concert and walk back
(everything is pretty close).

hope to see y'all there!

chris imershein
imer5924@hgc.edu
"where i come from is a far more interesting place" -- marcus, babylon 5

p.s.  happy birthday to amy after soy sounds like a great idea!

p.p.s.  note that i will be enroute to the concert by way of portsmouth
tonight, so will not get any email until after the concert.

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howdy!

much good news!

7/7/97 ig at the britt pavilion in jacksonville or.

            i spoke to a person at the britt not 10 min ago. tickets go
on sale to the public may 1st. however they are taking advanced
reservations via phone with a credit card, no guarantee of a seat
though.. they are a preforming arts type center and i guess that they
will sell tickets to members of their organization first. anyone a
member?
           there are 660 reserved seats and 1600 lawn tickets available.
from the www page the lawn seats did not look too bad and (my guess) the
reserved seats were bleacher type.
           $26 reserved, $23 lawn. 1-800-882-7488

champoeg state park, st. john or.

7/9/97
and
7/10/97

   wahoo! two dates close to my home!

          so i call the only number i could find regarding this park on
the www, i spent about three hours looking.
i got the man. first he wanted to know how i'd heard about the concert.
heheheh. so i told him (thanks again lawyerman!), then he wanted the
url's, so i told him. then he answered my questions. tickets should go
on sale in about one week. $22 bucks each all general admission. 3500
person venue. via ticket master.
        in addition the promotion company. sometimes, sells tickets
through a local (portland or.) coffee house. i'll post the name of the
place once i get confirmation their going to carry the tickets. the
promo man said it was so you could avoid paying the ticket master fee. i
told him that was so cool!

      have a great day i'm going to reserve some tickets!

      ron (posting from his home account, if you want to talk to me
before sat morning write me at my work
ron_northway@planar.com)

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hi all,
     thought that i would delurk long enough to pass on a bit of info
that i heard.  apparently, ig is doing a live x for 99x in atlanta
sometime this month.  i didn't hear the date.  what i did hear is that
they are giving away passes  to go see the dynamic duo on the radio.  if
anyone elase has heard anything more, i'd love to hear!  so, stay glued
to your radios!  and if anyone wins two passes and can't seem to find
anyone to go with them, i'm a very nice person :)

a smiling indigoer,
allison

ps: is anyone from the atl. area going to the auburn show?

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ok, i still don't know if i have anymore tickets available, so please don't
write me asking...i promise i will post it to the list when i find out how
many extras, if any, that i have!;)

for those of you who are definately going to the american university show
and/or the pine knob show in michigan please let me know...maybe we can meet
up before or after the show.  for the pine knob show it will have to be before!

glad that amy liked the presentation....woohoo!!!  just nine more days until
au!!

ok, have a great day all!
peace
tucker

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on fri, 11 apr 1997, dan perkins wrote:

> just fyi, i just spoke with the box office at the backyard (austin, tx).
> the person i spoke with said that ig are indeed coming, but as of today
> (friday april 11) there are no *confirmed* dates or ticket information
> available.

whoop!!!!!!(even if it is austin)!!!
tony, penelope...that affirmation thing really works...

gig'em,
rachel

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subject:      lyric question . . . pleeaassee read me!

hey -

in cortez the killer (is it cortes or cortez?  there was a guy named cortes,
but i've always seen it in ig refrence with a z . . . anyway), it goes:

he came dancin' across the waters
with his ________ and guns

what's that word?  private e-mail please; thanks in advance! =)

-elizabeth

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this was posted in the list of tour dates from sony's website.

7-5-1997  mountain view, ca shoreline amphitheatre


i called bass outlets and they said they didn't know anything about
shorline, but that indigo girls will be at the greek theater in berkley
on july 5th and (yea!! we get two!!) 6th.  tickets go on sale june 1 at
bass outlets (510)762-2277.

see ya there,

julia

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hi all,
thanks for all the concert- and sots-reviews that have been hitting my
mail-box lately.
i can't wait to see them in holland (so far i've seen them twice and both
were absolutely great), so if anyone has any tourdates for europe, please
let me know.
furthermore i'm looking for live-boots and taped radioshows with the girls
(i know who isn't) and i it's difficult to find things in my little
country, so i haven't got that much to trade. so any help on that front
would be very, very welcome.
one last questions for those of you who don't live in the states: are there
any ig-video's on a vhs-system that can be played on european vcr's and
tv's (i can't play my latul-video, because of the ntsc- format).

thanks very much,
josÚ kooyman
(koolus@xs4all.nl)

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subject:      nigc tracy chapman

....will be on dave letterman tonight!

-liz-

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ok,

will those who have an advanced copy of sots
confirm emily's "lisp" on track 9 "everything
in it's own time".  i think it's called a
syllablence.

about 1 min 30 secs into the song she mushes
up the word with a "schhhs" sound i thing
it with the word "language"

please tell me i'm not imagining this, also
i'm surprised they didn't find this before
they released the advance copies it.

tt

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hi kind friends,

three things:

1) this is my new email address. better to reach me here than at the aol
one.

2) we need a location for our sf area list party. any ideas? bueller?
anyone? also, mail me if you want to come and haven't mailed me yet.

3) i can't seem to switch to digest format. i tried doing it the way
i've done it before and its not working. any suggestions?

love,

larissa
(faithfully waiting for kfog to play soy)

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here are some questions for you all to munch on...

1) if you, amy and emily were wonder-triplets (instead of the
wondertwins.. those superheros) what shape/form would you usually
take?? i think one always had to be an animal, the other a form
of ice sculpture.. and always always purple *giggle hi sundara!*

2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
they've given, what would it be?

have fun!
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hey all you auburn show people!!:)

ok! i stopped by ticketlink last night and found out some good
information about the auburn ig show!
1) all tickets are general admition!
2) the show starts at 8pm.
3) tickets go on sale mon. april 14th....

number one is the important fact that i received from ticketlink, who is
responsible for all ticket sales.
just thought i would let yall all know.
thanks,  brett

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i am willing to get people tickets for the june 13th show in kettering if
anyone wants.  you must email me privately by 8am saturday morning cause i
am leaving after that to get in line.  if you have already requested
tickets from someone else, then lease don't ask me.  i will try my best for
anyone who needs them.
take care,
chris
"do or do not.  there is no try..."
                 -quote from a very wise little green muppet...

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a  f e w  w o r d s  f r o m  t h e  s p o n o r s  o f  e l l e n

>from medialert

as the april 30 "coming out" episode of "ellen" approaches, advertisers
appear to have taken their stand -- either for or against the much-touted
storyline.  except for assurances that the episode is "fully sponsored," abc
has refused any comment (spokesperson janice gretemeyer said the network
"doesn't discuss its advertisers").  however, other sources indicate that
several major companies have already backed away from the show.

carol ness, staff writer at the "san francisco examiner" (april 2), reports
that even:  "though the hour-long special, featuring celebrities oprah
winfrey, laura dern and melissa etheridge, is expected to attract a huge
audience, chrysler decided to take a pass.  and, chrysler told its employees,
so did general motors and johnson & johnson."

not coincidentally, those companies had been specifically targeted by the
homophobic lobbying efforts of "rev." jerry falwell, who admonished
advertisers to "stop spending your dollars to underwrite a program that
disney and abc have decided to use to corrupt the views and values of our
children."  "i want to congratulate the chairmen of these three companies,"
said falwell.  "they have done the responsible and right thing."

attempting to excuse her company's decision, chrysler spokesperson megan
giles explained:  "it's the hype -- not the show itself."  "basically when
there's a big media and public controversy about something, we don't think
it's the best environment to try to sell our products," said giles.  "we
offend one group or the other."

chrysler had been a regular advertiser on "ellen."  however, carol ness
reports, "the company said its sponsorship of future episodes would depend on
whether the hype recedes."

chrysler does not offer domestic partner benefits and, ness adds, the company
"also figured in a recent controversy over 'esquire' magazine's decision not
to publish a new story by writer david leavitt that contained explicit
homoerotic scenes.  leavitt's agent reportedly said the story had been killed
because chrysler, a major advertiser, threatened to pull its ads."

other sponsors have also made shallow excuses for keeping their distance from
"ellen."  johnson & johnson spokesperson jeff leebaw would only say "we were
not scheduled.  i'm told we're not a major advertiser."

dean rotondo, a spokesperson for general motors, said his company's ad
schedule had "nothing to do with the content" of "ellen's" april 30 show.
however, the american family association (march 27) reports that rotondo
also promised, "gm will evaluate future episodes for their 'fairness and
family values.'"

of course, the news is not all bad.  according to upi entertainment editor
valerie kuklenski (march 31), "at least one advertiser is being drawn to that
show by its message and the audience it is expected to attract."  kuklenski
reports that:  "home access health corp. has announced it will run a
commercial for its home testing kit to detect hiv, the virus that causes
aids, on abc affiliates in hicago, san francisco, los angeles and new york."

"we think it's better to face reality and take control than to hide from it,"
home access president richard quattrocchi said.  "we applaud ellen's coming
out of the closet and wish her a happy and productive life."

niche marketing aside, home access' applause is a striking break in the
"un-offending" silence of most advertisers.  even if the decision really "had
nothing to do with content," general motors could have rejected falwell's
homophobia directly.  instead, gm -- like chrysler, j&j, and most
advertisers-- pled a dubious "neutrality."  though the company said nothing
bad about lesbianism, neither did it say anything good.

the refusal to reject homophobia -- in order to avoid offending homophobes --
cannot be excused by a congruent refusal to reject homosexuality (even to
avoid offending homosexuals).  there is no virtue in a "neutrality" that
supports neither homophobes nor homosexuals...  neither misogynists nor
women...  neither racists nor people of color.  clearly, such "neutrality"
can only be a boon to homophobia, sexism and racism.

perhaps, with their tendency to put profit over principle, certain
advertisers might never become a part of the solution.  to claim they are
never part of the problem, however, is no longer a permissible lie.

as jerry falwell recently gloated:  "it really doesn't matter why general
motors, chrysler and johnson & johnson have pulled their ads.  the simple
fact is that, by doing so, these companies have sent a very clear and
powerful message to network executives."

in response to recent advertiser actions, debbie woodell, a columnist for the
philadelphia "daily news" (april 1), has suggested that it's "time for gay
consumers to show they mean business."  "do we pay enough attention to our
corporate allies?," woodell asks.  "how many of us can rattle off even a
half-dozen mainstream advertisers in any one of our big-time glossy
magazines?  no peeking."

"it's time to start paying closer attention, because the other side does,"
woodell advises.  "and it's time to let our supporters know we support them."
  she adds:  "the opportunity of a lifetime exists between now and april 30,
the night tv sitcom character ellen morgan tells the world what we've
suspected all along -- that she's a lesbian."


* * * *  action alert!   urge advertisers to make a particular point of
rejecting homophobia and supporting fair, accurate and diverse lgbt images on
television.  contact:   robert j. eaton, chair, chrysler corporation, 1000
chrysler dr., auburn hills, mi 48326, tel. 810-576-5741 or 800-992-1997; john
f. smith, chair, general motors corporation, 3044 w. grand blvd., detroit, mi
48202, tel. 313-556-5000, fax 313-556-1988; ralph s. larsen, chair, johnson &
johnson, one johnson & johnson plaza, new brunswick, nj 09833, tel.
908-524-0400 or 800-635-6789, fax 908-214-0332, web
http://www.jnj.com/feedback.htm; kevin johnson, home access health, hoffman
estates, il, tel. 847-781-2504, e-mail kj@homeaccess.com, web
http://www.homeaccess.com.


related (re)sources:  the "corporate watch" web site is a progressive project
for "monitoring the activities of transnational corporations; on-line
resources include current news, analysis, how-to guides, an image gallery,
and links to other sites.  contact:  http://www.corpwatch.org.

among the homophobic organizations targeting "ellen's" advertisers is the
christian family network (cfn), which has launched a national "ellen media
watch."  the campaign is rallying fundies across the nation, "monitoring the
program for local advertisers and taking steps to influence those advertisers
to spend their dollars in a responsible [sic] manner."  contact:  don
jackson, executive director, cfn, p. o. box 24171, dayton, oh 45424, tel.
937-236-5433, fax 937-236-5056, e-mail jacksondp@aol.com, web
http://www.cfn.web.com.

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about medialerts

distributed as a community press service since 1992, "medialert!" [tm] is a
biweekly, advocacy-oriented column of media criticism, primarily focused on
lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender issues.

recipients may print, publish or post this material, in whole or part, under
this or any title, without prior permission.  when appropriate, attribution
can be made to "al kielwasser" and/or "medialert!"  file copies of
publications using all or part of any "medialert!" are always appreciated.

next "medialert!" = april 18, 1997.  contact:  a. p. kielwasser, mediaction,
163 park street, san francisco, ca 94110-5835, voice-mail/fax 415-826-5203,
e-mail mediaction@aol.com.

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author notes

al kielwasser is the editor of "gay people, sex and the media" (new york:
haworth press).  his media criticism and research have appeared widely, in
both mainstream and academic publications (including the "journal of american
culture," "journal of homosexuality," "journal of popular culture," and
"critical studies in mass communication"); he was twice elected chair of the
gay & lesbian alliance against defamation/san francisco bay area.

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i was just listening to the 1200 curfews version of least complicated and
it struck me how into amy got into the song in the second half (you
notice neat things after listening to a cd about a trillion times).  she
was singing louder and much more intensly them emily, shouted
"everybody!" to the fans, and seemed really into the content of the song
(relation to it deeply maybe?).  thus i am now try to think of other
songs in which the one who didn't write the song seems to surpass the
writer for a good chunck of the song.  i know amy is often more
intense/emotional, but i know i have heard amy songs where emily
outshines her too.  hmm anyway, help me out.

jeremy

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hey everybody!
i know i promised more tcu stuff, but i just got home from school and
i'm about to leave town, so i'll try to post more stuff when i get back,
k?

aol people i've tried to send messages to:
emily, you're card was recieved and was included in the gift =)
deb, i just sent you a message about the failed message i sent you
about   contacting rc, hope you get that one, i'm really sorry that my
server did that to you, i felt really bad.
anyone else who has emailed me and not gotten a response, i'm sorry, i
love you, but i've had no time and with all the aol screwy things
happening half of the messages i did respond to didn't get through =(.

okay, gotta go back.

love y'all!
mandingo

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ok some of y'all might think i'm getting a little too excite....i don't care.

dan said that ig was playing at the backyard in austin.  i just heard a
local rumor that they were playing at the woodlands june 24.  i deleted
about 200 messages today so i might have missed the info...if you can
confirm either of these items please let me know.

rachel

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  this is also the first time a gay person is not playing a stereotype.
in most sit-coms gays and lesbians are seen as either queens or
unrealistically butch lesbians. not to say that these people don't exsist
and that their lifestyle isn't acceptable. but the majority of gay people
are everyday human beings. ellen is just playing and typical women who
happens to be a lesbian.
   there was a great postcard i saw the other day in a changing hands
book store. it said "watch them order take out,have your heart come to
screeching stop when you see them watching tv, hear your blood freeze
when you see them get ready for work in the morning. it was too
late..they had family values. rated pg:please get over it." pretty much
says everything you need to know!
ben

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the line you are referring to in cortez the killer (neil young) is
"he came dancing across the water
with his galleons and guns"

a galleon is a three masted sailing ship. used in the 15th to 17th
centuries, especially by spain. they were used as merchant ships, or in
cortez's case, warships.

hope this answers all your questisons about galleons!

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the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
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the line you are referring to in cortez the killer (neil young) is
"he came dancing across the water
with his galleons and guns"

a galleon is a three masted sailing ship. used in the 15th to 17th
centuries, especially by spain. they were used as merchant ships, or in
cortez's case, warships.

hope this answers all your questisons about galleons!

--
peace,

dan perkins
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post-episodic clairvoyant,
bassist/singer/songwriter.

"and at last the world was finally set free,
the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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hello all,
a friend asked me today about obtaining piano music for cris williamson.
said she had found the only book available was out of print. does
anyone have any info to help?
thanks,
suzanne

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just a note to publically thank tony, mandi, and great greta for all
that they did...i'm glad that you all were sucessful in your endeavor to
do this for amy and at the same time giving a good name to us
listees...they make think we're wierd, but now it's prolly a good-wierd
:)
*huggles to y'all!!"

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hi all,

sorry for the nigc. i am looking for some info. on the music scene in
atlanta. i figured there *must* be some atlanta folks out there in
indigoland!

i am a 36 yo bassist/singer/songwriter. i am intrested in living
somewhere that has a vital acoustic folk/rock live music scene. i have
been living in austin, tx for awhile, but lately there just isn't much
happing in the acoustic music scene. so, i am considering moving next
year.

what i am wondering is: are there good venues for acoustic folk/rock.
style wise i am into a sound along the lines of dylan, n. young, townes
van zandt (i would say ig, but comparing myself to ig is sort of
blasphemous). also, are there a lot of musicians into the folk type
scene. i mean, if i were to move i would need someone to play with.

any information would be greatly appreciated.

sorry again for the nigc.
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peace,

dan perkins
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post-episodic clairvoyant,
bassist/singer/songwriter.

"and at last the world was finally set free,
the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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subject:      ellen censored in alabama

i've never posted to the list before, though i've been reading it for 2 years,
but i really thought ya'll would be interested in this.  the birmingham, al
abc affiliate, abc 33/40, has decided not to broadcast the april 30 "coming out
" episode of ellen.  the following is a quote from the university of alabama
school newspaper.
they decided"the show was not appropriate for family viewing hours, general man
ager jerry heilman told the associated press... anchors on the station's 5pm
news broadcast more than 1000 calls had been made to the station's feedback lin
e, with calls two to one in favor of the decision not to air the episode."
btw, so far, none of the other 223 affilates have rejected the episode.  so,
whether or not you like the idea of ellen's lesbian character, at least most of
you get to watch it!
becky

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please respond to littlesparkofstrangefire@juno.com

i just performed soy at the high school talent show.....memorizing it was
impossible b/c i heard it for the first time the night before the show at
about 8:00  yowza!
needless to say i brought down the house
needless to say i also had to change a few of the words *sigh*
so here is what i did ;)
b/c my school is so homophobic i had to, unfortunatly, change the famous
"beautiful ladies" verse....b/c im a chick who everyone wonders about ;)
so i sang...
"when the beautiful (pause) uh...people walk on by
i never know what do say
im always gonna keep you guessing
shame on you"
tee hee
and on the f*ck line:
"the only thing that keeps us distant is i keep (completely stop the
song....silence)"
then i scream "censorship sucks"
to my chagrin the principle stopped me in the hall this morning and
said...."you dont like censorship megan?" she had to ask? tee hee
to my suprise the close minded putzes at my school really appreciated the
immigrant thing at the end....the same boat line wow!  cheers in the middle
of the song and everything....just ask the beautiful and talented sarah
carter :)
and then the "ranch hands" as my groupies call themselves (b/c i'm billed as
bonanza jellybean of even cowgirls fame)  chanted for chickenman and they
sang along...they are really a nice group.
i also sang amy's version of all along the watchtower.....amazing woman that
amy :)
anyway sorry so long i just had to share
once again:
please respond to littlesparkofstrangefire@juno.com

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just a quick not to let you know that the auburn show is not general
admission...it is reserved seating. ticklink must have had it
wrong...just wanted to let you all know
bjp

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hi y'all
  you know how we heard that these tix will go on sale at noon tomorrow?
well, according to the oxford bookstore ppl, the tix really go on sale at
9. which i bet is wrong, 'cause i don't  think tix ever go on sale that
early, and plus the guy told me that the lottery is at 9, too. go figure.
anyway, i thought y'all might wanna call wherever and find out when _they_
say tix will be on sale, just so no one misses out if indeed they're going
on sale early in the morning.
       peace,
        julie
ps. i'll tell you what ticketmaster says if i ever get through...

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okay, we have it and the lyrics, too and it is "languageless connection" - so, no lisp. remain calm. :-)

us

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ok,

will those who have an advanced copy of sots
confirm emily's "lisp" on track 9 "everything
in it's own time".  i think it's called a
syllablence.

about 1 min 30 secs into the song she mushes
up the word with a "schhhs" sound i thing
it with the word "language"

please tell me i'm not imagining this, also
i'm surprised they didn't find this before
they released the advance copies it.

tt

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subject:      tix for wolf trap, va

okay, so tix for the wolf trap show go on sale sunday a.m.  just wondering if
anyone was going to drive to vienna and stand in line or anything to get
their much coveted tix??  i'm planning on going out there, i think.  anyone??
let me know and maybe we could wile away the time over a cup of coffee while
in line....

hope everyone's week-end is delightful!
court

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i had send this to the list 1 to sooth all the ruffled feathers there
seems to be right now on the list and 2 cause you gotta love our judicial
system then we wonder why same sex marraiges are taking forever to become
a reality

the following are questions actually asked of witnesses by attorneys during
trials and, in certain cases, the responses given by insightful witnesses.

  1.  "now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his
        sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?"

  2.  "the youngest son, the twenty-year old, how old is he?"

  3.  "were you present when your picture was taken?"

  4.  "were you alone or by yourself?"

  5.  "was it you or your younger brother who was killed in the
        war?"

  6.  "did he kill you?"

  7.  "how far apart were the vehicles at the time of the
        collision?"

  8.  "you were there until the time you left, is that true?"

  9.  "how many times have you committed suicide?"

  10.  q:  "so the date of conception (of the baby) was august
              8th?"
        a:  "yes."
        q:  "and what were you doing at that time?"

  11.  q:  "she had three children, right?"
        a:  "yes."
        q:  "how many were boys?"
        a:  "none."
        q:  "were there any girls?"

   12.  q:  "you say the stairs went down to the basement?"
        a:   "yes."
        q:   "and these stairs, did they go up also?"

  13.  q:  "mr. slatery, you went on a rather elaborate honeymoon,
              didn't you?"
        a:  "i went to europe, sir."
        q:  "and you took your new wife?"

  14.  q:  "how was your first marriage terminated?"
        a:  "by death."
        q:  "and by who's death was it terminated?"

  15.  q:  "can you describe the individual?"
        a:  "he was about medium height and had a beard."
        q:  "was this a male, or a female?"

  16.  q:  "is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a
               deposition notice which i sent to your attorney?"
        a:  "no, this is how i dress when i go to work."

  17.  q:  "doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on
              dead people?"
        a:   all my autopsies are performed on dead people."

  18.  q:  "all your responses must be oral, ok? what school did
              you go to?"
        a:  "oral."

  19.  q:  "do you recall the time that you examined the body?"
        a:  "the autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.."
        q:  "and mr. dennington was dead at the time?"
        a:   no, he was sitting on the table wondering why i was
              doing an autopsy."

  20.  q:  "you were not shot in the fracas?"
        a:   "no, i was shot midway between the fracas and the
              navel."

  21.  q:  "are you qualified to give a urine sample?"
        a:   "i have been since early childhood."

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subject:      re: igc questions.. put your thinking caps on

in a message dated 97-04-11 17:31:17 edt, boilrmkr@bu.edu wrote:

<< 1) if you, amy and emily were wonder-triplets (instead of the
wondertwins.. those superheros) what shape/form would you usually
take?? i think one always had to be an animal, the other a form
of ice sculpture.. and always always purple *giggle hi sundara!*

a fish!!

2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
they've given, what would it be? >>

the bean trees by barbara kingsolver

:)
peace for the beasts
kerry ann

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audrey won 2 passes to see ig on y100's sonic session, which is on friday,
april 18, & she's taking me!!!  i cannot control my excitement!!!
according to y100's webpage, "sonic sessions...y100 will provide you the
chance to meet bands that we play, and a chance to hang with the people of
y100. the sonic studio is an intimate setting where listeners can
experience an incredilbe vibe, not unlike mtv's unplugged. when time
permits, the bands chat with the public as well."  and then we're seeing ig
at la salle that night!  who could ask for a better indigo day?  audrey is
the coolest!  for everyone who i'm getting tickets for, jen has been nice
enough to pick up the tickets from me & to meet people at the show w/ them
b/c i don't know how long the sonic session will last...i'll e-mail all of
you w/ details later.  i hope everyone's day is as wonderful as mine! :)

andi

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                                andrea lipman
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        "hey kind friend, i don't know when i'm going to see you again
                it's okay friend, it's okay friend."-amy ray
                       hkf...i'm thinking about you...
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there's an 800 service for those seeking out of print books...here's the
number..and kudos to the nice lady at books-a-million for offering it :)
1-800-539-1967
you may reach a machine...be prepared to leave name, address, telephone
number. the title of the book you are seeking and the author's name if
possible and, if applicable, your fax number for speedy service...

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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the best venue in the atlanta area for folk-acoustic music is eddie's
attic.  they have open-mic. night during the week.  artists like kristen
hall and michelle malone play there on a regular basis.  the venue is one
mcdonough street in downtown decatur.  for further info, check out their
web site (i think this is right):
http://www.hidwater.com/eddies/

if that's not right, there is a link to the eddie's attic page on one of
my pages:
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~ebgore/web1.htm

good luck.
i hope this helps-
emily gore
ebgore@hubcap.clemson.edu

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furkin' schlitz...not this again...i missed the friend's episode where
carol got married because of this crap about it not being appropriate
for family viewing..what about _my_ family???? what about us, huh? i'm
about fed up...a person tries to bring some diversity so that maybe
others can see from their perspective and draw us closer and they get
pushed back because _one_ person thinks it's not acceptable for some
audiences...that's why they made cable with 250 dang channels and a
handy little remote....nobody said that the people opposing the gay
lifestyle or the idea that ellen is coming out on her show had to watch
it...turn the friggin channel!!! grr!!!
it's funny...no one objected about the character of peter being gay...no
one seems to be bothered that the character "leon" on rosanne is
gay...and yet we get to see the episode where leon and his lover get
married...why is ellen such a big deal? and why are the advertising
companies getting up in a lather about it also??? the same preachers and
corporate clones use the same damn q-tips to clean their ears that the
"queens" use to nair their eyebrows...why can't we all just get along???

"...it's the hollow of my heart that cries when i miss you and it keeps me alive when were apart..."-catie curtis "radical"

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hey gang,

i'm awfully embarrassed to admit, given the recent conversation on this
list, i've _never_ seen "ellen" (nor do i even know anything about the
plot...)    i've been curious about it 'cause it sounds like some pretty
relevant issues come up...   and i heard today that some channel in alabama
decided not to run that fateful episode on apr. 30th -- apparently there
are no gay people in alabama and they wouldn't want to expose their
children to such nonsense <yeah right>....  anyway this made me actually
want to give it a try despite the fact that i'm a med student and have no
time to even watch er.  so i was wondering if y'all could help me out and
just tell me what time/channel it's on...  (i'm assuming wednesday 'cause
that's what the 30th is...)

thanks a million,
deb the indigeek

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actually, that was my fault!!  in my post, i copied and pasted whatever the
person before me wrote, then replied to that. i don't know actually who the
origional post was from. i guess the names got mixed up. sorry!!
-kim

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i just saw "anaconda."  not a good thing if you hate snakes, like me....

thank god i have sots now...i can relax again to the girls...

just had to tell someone.

peace, love and ig-
karrie


ps.  btw, see the movie...it is a pretty good roller coaster ride.

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hola (insert whatever u want here),

  it's about 15 till 9:00 pm here in lubbock, texas and i'm still on a
high from the concert last night...i'm sorry but i won't be able to give
a very good review of the concert because i'm could not explain with
mere letters and syllables...but i will say i had the time of my life
with tony, chastity, and everyone else i met (sorry if i'm forgetting
names but i'm reeling still)....any way for all people who we're not
there i must let you  in on the quote of the concert made by mr.
chickenman himself (you sexy man you tony)
after the concet some of us ended up at dennys and after some picture
taking of chastity with her amy pick (u lucky b*tch! j/k) and some
pictures of other things (u had to be there) tony says very sincerely "
well, i'm not a lesbian" i'm still smiling about that one...i'm gonna
have those pics developed sometime this weekend okay tony? btw me and
the other lisa are very thankful for you letting us crash in your room!
(u so sweet, come here let me give you a kiss!)  anyway i think i'm
done...i think y body is ready to finally collapse from all the dancing
and singing :)  later

recycle religion...it's been done before,
nanzajellybean

"your actions will follow you full circle round"  - _center stage_ by amy ray

"well,  i'm not a lesbian" - tony, da chickenman

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date:         fri, 11 apr 1997 21:00:53 -0500
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hey everyone.  wondering if anyone on the list is from northampton.  i'm
headin' that way for graduate school in june and don't know anyone or my way
around.

dimitra

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subject:      good guitar for beginner? - nigc
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please reply via private e-mail so we don't muck up the list, but i would
love your suggestions of good types/brands of acoustic guitar for a
beginner. after years of listening to this stuff, i'm ready to dive in.

i haven't had lesson one so this is a brave if tentative step.

good atlanta sources of used/affordable stuff much appreciated too.

stephen


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date:         fri, 11 apr 1997 22:45:25 edt
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      slim's and a little wahoogie

okay can we just say "yahoo and pass the mustard!" for being 21 hours away from
the girls tomorrow in beeeyootiful durham nh? i thought so!

but cereal, help me pleeeze. did any of you kind peeps tape the slim's (in sf)
show? i thought i had it and my connection went belly up..forgot to press
record to be exact whilst they were in the joint. sooo, i need it to complete
the little "sf trilogy" tape i am puttin togetha. so please help if you have
it, or if you know who might. thanky.

susita
storyteller extraordinaire  ;)

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i wrote:
>>melissa is wearing a frilly white shirt in the pic on the back cover of that
>>cd. i had the same reaction at first, so i just had to check! ;) and that
>>wasn't just blonde...that was blonde! ;■ go, melissa!

and joni added:
>i always thought she looked like lisa hartman in that frilly white shirt and
>blonde hair...am i crazy?

yes!!! lol!! you nailed it, grrl! i always thought it reminded me of
*someone* but could never put my finger on it! ha! too funny...

mary e.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                         "i'm walking a distance
eichman@polarnet.com      i feel i've been running for miles
mary t. eichman            happy times don't last long
po box 55753                i finally got there
north pole, alaska           and it's too late to smile"
99705-5753
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subject:      ft worth show....

first of all, may i just say, this show rocked!!!  everything about it;
the girls, the pre-show powwow in the parking lot, the great seats, the
rocking souveniers, not to mention, all the great list members!!!  y'all
are the greatest bunch of people i've met in a long time, and i just
wanted to tell ya thanks for bring so friendly and outrageously funny!!

as i'm sure you all know by now, the girls were wonderful!  maybe i'm
just biased because it was my first show, but i don't really care!!  they
played a great set of songs and the crowd did some awesome singing during
galileo and closer to fine!  yes, we did manage to score a set list
(courtesy of...me!) plus some other great souveniers!  the local radio
station, the zone 93.3 threw out shirts and hats before the show..  three
"fortunate ones" of the ig list caught something!  then, at the end of
the show, they were throwing out used pics and such..  annnnnd the winner
is chastity!!!!  yes, folks, chase got an amy pic....finger prints and
all!!  (yeah!!!!)

you know, there were several funny little stories that i could mention
about a few well-known list members after last
night.......(coughtonycoughchasecough) excuse me... must have screamed
too loud or something..  got caught in my throat..  if people are
interested in hearing the anecdotes, let me know, for i'd hate to post
somethign that people will simply delete or page through...  :)

thanks for a great night y'all!!!  see some of you in houston for the
lillith fair!!!  y'all are the best :):):)


lisa

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from:         "gibson, shondolyn j." <x0sgibs@music.stlawu.edu>
subject:      re: ellen censored in alabama
in-reply-to:  in reply to your message of fri, 11 apr 1997 17:30:00 est

i am so sick of hearing what is and isn't appropiate for family viewing
this is the 1990s. families are not wide-eyed innocent with problems t
that will fade in a half hour! these people need to get a clue and
a life! gay people exist. they will not hide in the shadows because of
a bunch of people still living in the 50s! can't the right wing find
something to do besides watching tv! they need to get off their behinds
and do something like help battered women and starving children

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subject:      book recommendations

>>from:    anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
>>subject: igc questions.. put your thinking caps on

>>2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
>>(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
>>recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
>>they've given, what would it be?

i'ld recommend 'you can't kill the spirit' by pam mcallister
stories of women and non-violent action

gynergy

>from our children to our elders, from all nations we will rise
may respect for all our differences ,enhance our common ties
pat humphries "common threads"

http://members.aol.com/gynergy/index.html

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subject:      emily on laura

hi folks i've been out of town and away from any media
and just came back to the sad news of laura nyro's passing ...

this is such a tremendous loss, she was a gift to us all.
i am pretty much devestated and torn up about it .... my
sympathies go out to her family...

i read a post that mentioned and article in the boston globe
in which emily comments on laura... if anyone can send me
a copy of that or if it's not too long, post it to the list,
i would be very grateful ...

thanks,
claire

" light and darkness ... come to her kiss ...
    'cause that's where mother's spiritual lives..."
(laura nyro)

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i don't know if this was mentioned while i was gone from the list, but i was
surprised not to hear anybody talking about the recent news of joni mitchell
finding her long lost daughter she gave up for adoption 30 years ago. i was
in toronto, and the news about joni was a top story in papers there. just
thought i'd pass it along in case anybody hadn't heard about it.

~abigail (who needs to get to sleep, but can't since tomorrow, err, tonight is
           my first ani concert!!!)

"because, miss lank, you are worth ripping up a book for"

                   ~herb cummins, world class teacher

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hkf!

        i'm back on the listserv for the time being (so anj you can stop
forwarding mail to me for the present...thank you so much for doing that! :)

the set list for the thursday night tcu show was originally (*with changes*):

1  wood song
2  _hand me downs_ (changed to *secure yourself*)
3  get out the map
4  shed your skin (first time i've heard this song...i liked it :)
5  everything in it's own time (emily's voice was spectacular on this song!!!)
6  this train revised (amy rocks!!)
7  cara mia (more punch to this song than i have heard before -- emily
really got down              on guitar on this one!)
8  shame on you (i couldn't restrain myself from dancing and la-la-ing on
this one!)
9  mystery
10 scooter boys (first time i've heard this song...didn't really care for
it! :o)
11 it's alright
12 hey kind friend  (i noticed that amy changed the lyrics to "i don't know
if *i want*                      these highs *to* be coming down", i like
that lyric better :)
13 virginia woolf
14 _cut it out_ (changed to *chickenman* with the moonshine man soc!!!!!)
15 thin line (a crowd favorite!)
16 galileo

*encore*
17 chiapas bound (awesome! :)
18 least complicated
19 closer to fine (the crowd was great in singing the last two songs with
unbridled         enthusiasm!)

        amy was wearing the maroon shirt with white dots (from the atlanta
article pictures) over a green l/s shirt and red jeans.  emily was wearing
jean overalls over a black/white striped l/s shirt.
        i saw at least 20 list members at the concert and the venue was
pretty much packed to capacity (about 3,000).  security was very aggressive
in keeping people away from the front of the stage!  but... cameras and
recorders were no problem whatsoever :0 my neighbor held a tape recorder in
her lap with a security person standing directly over her - no problemos!!
        the list group as a whole faired well...some got setlists, picks,
and caps/t-shirts from the zone radio station! :)  i heard that amber batson
(her first ig concert) got a backstage pass and may have met the girls after
the concert?)
        for those of you who missed the post-concert gathering...well, let's
just say it got a bit wild!!! ;)  special hellos to "the lisas", who along
with me and chasity were up until about 5:30 this morning :o
        btw my longtime ig friend chasity came down from boulder, co to see
the concert and will be staying with me for awhile, so y'all can write her
at my address and say hello if you wish!

hte donation/amy's birthday present~

        mandingo the great and i faired extremely well in being able to meet
the girls and present the list birthday present to amy - a check for
****$2,500**** to honor the earth!!!!!!!!  amy and emily were both amazed!!
how did y'all do that, they asked??  mandi explained it to them.
        mandi already did a stunning job of recounting our adventure, so
i'll just add a little filler.  the birthday card was extraordinary!!!
        amy and emily were the most down to earth people....:)  all smiles
and so gracious and humble.  what superb role models they are!!!! :)
        we asked if we could take a picture and emily says, "oh, you don't
want me in it do you?  it's amy's birthday?.....and i was like "well yes,
**of course** we want you in it!!" :) :)
        (sorry i just have to tell this part ;o)  so amy says, "well, why
don't i come stand by him (me!!!) and puts her arm around my shoulder (oh
wow!)...me and mandi are in the middle and emily was to mandi's right.  i
sure hope the pictures turn out!!
        there are also 3-4 pictures of mandi making the presentation to amy.
so the pictures went in tonight to be developed and will be out by tommorrow!!
        the girls were everything i expected and much *more*! :)  they were
soooooo nice and cordial!  and amy said she really appreciates the positive
feedback and support from list members and fans regarding the social causes
they pursue....
        y'all all rock for making this such a successful project and special
thanks go to mandi for coming up with idea and following through on it!!
you go mandi!!!!!!!!!
and many thanks to greta for collecting all the donations!

thanks y'all~

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       "and it's a lot of stuff..."                    r
i        - ar referring to the carnage highway...       l
g                                                       s
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  hey y'all.  i am apologizing in advance for the length of this message,
but i have to get this off my chest.
  i am one of those ig fans who also happens to drop in on the winnie the
pooh ng every once in a while, and i saw something there tonight that
really, really bothered me.  someone had posted the following notice:

--begin qouted material...

                   gay day at disney
                  _______________________
gay day patrons have demonstrated and promoted same-sex behavior to a
captive audience
of over 100,000 children at disney world of florida over the past six
years.
disney allows and assists over ten thousand homosexuals to hold a "coming
out p
arty" in the midst of tens of thousands of children each year during the
first
week of june.    homosexuals are promoting gay day at disney for june 1997.
will disney continue to forsake our children by allowing the next gay day at
the magic kingdom and by promoting the homosexual agenda as described herein ?

                  disney officials claim that disney world is not
                          involved with  " gay day "
                  _______________________________________________
a letter dated september 10, 1996 from ray evans, disney guest
communications, states
"....we had no official dealings with the members of this group (gay day)
and they were
afforded no special privileges or considerations. "

however please consider the following facts:
--------------------------------------------

disney officials circulated a memo asking employees to help with gay day '96

                     (internal disney memorandum)........

...."aloha all,

each (disney) resort has been asked to supply one management team member to
assist with the gay pride day in the magic kingdom on june 1, 1996.  i am
looking for any volunteer who may be interested in helping with this event.
please let me know as soon as possible if you are interested as i need to
respond with the name of our volunteervery quickly. i appreciate your time
and
assistance .

      clyde min at disney-wdw-poly1 "
      polynesian resort, general manager


however please consider the following facts:
--------------------------------------------

disney allowed six " official/unofficial greeters " to hand out gay day
fliers inside
the magic kingdom

disney provided gay day sponsors with special event tickets good only for "
gay day ".


          consider disney's other business practices that
                 promote the homosexual agenda
          ________________________________________________


michael eisner, chairman of the walt disney company, michael ovitz,
president of the
walt disney company and joe roth, chairman of walt disney motion pictures,
all
serve as members of the hollywood supports board of trustees.    hollywood
sup
ports is a pro-homosexual group whose focus is to promote the homosexual
agenda.  the disney-endorsed group aims to tell companies how to form
homosexual employee groups and provides a " sexual orientation in the work
place " seminar.

disney also hired avowed lesbian lauren lloyd to develop female and lesbian
movies,
helped underwrite national gay and lesbian task force fund-raisers in 1991
and
1993, allows a gay and lesbian task force to meet on a regular basis at
disney
world facilities and adopted special benefits for homosexuals.


            disney's abc network profiles lesbians and gays
            _______________________________________________

two mothers for zachary:
abc movie about a lesbian couple's custody battle.

ellen:
abc sitcom with controversy over lead actress
coming out of the closet.

nypd blue:
abc drama featuring a gay secretary, graphic
violence and profanity.


disney children's book division:  published " lettin it all hang out ", the
autobiography
of rupaul, a well-known "drag queen" (transvestite) entertainer.

....and:    " growing up gay " , written by three homosexual comedians who
aim their
book at "gay youngsters who were bred by heterosexuals ".


               " we need to be seen in the heart of america's
                         playground (disney) " ,
                 (boasted a homosexual patron of gay day 1994)

most of gay day's patrons want to be seen in america's largest playground.
thousands
of gay day patrons wore bold shirts that promoted homosexuality, kissed,
hugge
d and groped in very public places, and dressed in drag for tens of
thousands o
f children and parents to see.     the primary purpose of gay day is to
demonstrate and promote homosexuality at a time when thousands of children
and
unsuspecting adults are a captive audience in the magic kingdom.

disney has the legal right as a private property owner to prohibit guest
from exhibiting
behavior or printed clothing which promotes homosexuality.   the fact that
disney is not exercising this right to enforce rules that would protect
unsuspecting families from being exposed to gay day is more evidence that
disney supports the event and the homosexual agenda.

                         you can make a difference
                        ___________________________

please consider writing a personal letter to disney to return to family,
friendly business
practices which protect your children from the homosexual agenda instead of
exposing them to it.   encourage disney to stop the gay day which is schedule
for june 1997 at disney world and to stop producing books, television shows
and films that expose children to homosexuality.

letters should be addressed to:

michael eisner- chairman- walt disney co.
500 south buena vista street, burbank, california  91521

fax: 1-818-560-1300 or 1-818-560-1930


florida's american family association is the publisher of the educational
campaign
regarding disney.    copies of the educational campaign brochures can be
obtained by calling 1-800-357-7128.

--end quoted material

  let me say that i am a heterosexual male.  i have friends and family
members who are gay and i have been through the best and worst with all of
them.  i know how ugly and mean people can be, and yet this piece of
literature, posted to a ng about the most caring bear in the world, hurt me
more than anything, and i don't know why...
  i think i had a dream shattered tonight.  i was alone in cyberspace with
one of my closest friends, pooh bear, and someone let cold hard reality
wake me from my dreaming.  it is a sad day.  i just thought that i should
share this with someone, and you all were the first ones to come to mind.
thanks for listening.

miah
"no one gets to miss the storm of what will be..." es

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subject:      tix for wolf trap

i believe i have posted this before, but to all those in the northern va,
d.c. and maryland areas, you can purchase your tickets through waxie maxie
record stores begining (insert store opening hours) on sunday, april 13.

jude :)

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subject:      nicg- ani in milwaukee tonight
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     hey are any of you indigonads, fortunate ones, indigoheads,
     whatever!!! going to ani in milwaukee tonight (4/12)? i know me,
     abigail, alycia and dwayne are goin' from the list. just bein' nosey
     and wasting bandwidth ;)
     kira

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how about
the gods of goddess's of our own indigo reality

works for me i could add it to myh list of titles already<g>
hugs anthony van pyre the god of all things huggy and god of his own
little indigo reality

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i think that i might have one extra fraze concer ticket.
email me privately if you're interested.
alycia

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standing underneath the night
fighting back with all my might

                          - amy ray

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from:         karen robinson <lynn@texas.net>
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hi all,

nice meeting those of y'all we did in tulsa and ft. worth. (trant was
trapped in a car with me from san antonio (austin) to tulsa - he
survived and was great fun!)

the tulsa show. yeah! all twelve or thirteen die hards were lined up
about 6:15 pm. the doors opened at 7:00pm.  by then the crowds had
swelled to like 150 people at our entrance. by 8:00pm there were around
600 people at the show. by 9:00pm, maybe a total attendance of around
750 were in their seats.

i agree with the other review (can't remember whose - sorry) and will
pass on commenting on the opening act in tulsa, who were, as incredible
as you may find it, much improved for their set in fort worth; which i
will also pass comment on.

amy and emily were awesome.  they seemed a bit amused at the size of the
venue vs. the crowd in tulsa. nice amusement mind you. and it seemed
like just the crowd they wanted - didn't know as much of their music as
they customarily get.  the dog comment was good, as was emily's quick
save of "we like all creatures" (forgive me if its not an exact quote).
the singing crowd in tulsa was more well muffled as compared to the
indigo girl choir singing in fort worth. which was mighty cool to be a
part of.  wow!
        the new songs kick as previously stated.  but those t-shirts...
what's up with the t-shirts?  what were they thinking?  cool clothes for
you average banker, anne klein suit and a t-shirt with a nude women and
a buck standing in a stream?  or are we back to nature?  or is it some
sort of endangered species thang?  or was emily smoking a cigar, and
laughingly said, "who cares? they'll buy it. put a nude chick on a black
shirt and write indigo girls on it."  and amy, earnestly, says, "no,
can't be just the girl, need to make a statement. let's put a big ol'
deer with antlers to represent __________, and we'll backdrop on a
forest to represent ___________.  then the nude will be standing in a
stream to represent _____________.  emily, no longer joking, "wow, amy,
cool." so what's up with the shirt.  friendly question, no flames over
my thought process please.  just wondering...
(and yes i bought one; and no it just doesn't quite work with my
ensemble as of yet. <bg>)

karen

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 10:14:58 -0400
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subject:      southwest shows...and other (#*$&#(*&$%

good morning friends!

let me just start off by saying i am sooo happy to finally see a&e are coming
to arizona in june!  i feel a big relief...and also...does anyone know if the
tickets for the la shows are on sale yet?  i hope i havent missed the boat on
that one!  :)

well, my next tangent...as i have told a few of you...the "ig friendly"
station here in phoenix, who i call everyday to request soy, as of yesterday
still had not played the song.  so, i made my daily phone call and was told
"hey, i was waiting for you to call, we are going to play soy on the new
music news tonight at 8pm"!  i was so excited!  i spent an hour on my cell
phone trying to call ben (who's number was busy the entire time...ben, we
need to talk..).  i heard them announce it about 5 times the rest of the day,
and coudn't stop grinning!  i then cancelled all of my plans and headed home
to sit in front of the stereo with 3 of my friends until the magic 8pm hour
struck...

well, it struck alright...and the dj came on and said "well, we've had a bit
of a schedule change, and here is the new song by...{some stupid band i
couldn't give a #*(&$#*(&$ about!}.  we'll be saving the ig for another
night!"

we all just kind of sat there with our mouths wide open in amazement.  what
was going on here?  did they decide ig was not cool enough to play on a
friday night?  were they messing with me because i call all of the time?
have i become paranoid?   needless to say, i grabbed the phone and called
the station.  it was busy...and still busy...and yet...still busy.  i finally
got through, and said in a shaky, psycho voice "um...i think you should play
the indigo girls tonight!!!!"...and the dj explained to me how he had every
intention of playing it, until at 3 minutes 'til 8pm he realized that the cd
was not in the sleeve where it was suppose to be, which meant it was locked
in some vault upstairs, of which he does not have a key.  we talked for a
while and he told me how much he liked soy, and thought the album was their
best yet.  he then promised me he'd play it on monday night at 8pm...so,
needless to say, he was forgiven.  so, all of you az people, tune into kzon
at 8pm on monday!

do i need to move to hear the ig on the radio?  they've been playing them in
tucson for weeks!  argh!

anyway, it makes me feel better just to know that my bf (hi andi) will have
seen ig a million times by may 1st!

( and that today is my favorite persons birthday!)

happy amy day!

jan

ps- thanks to greta, tony, and mandi.  you guys were great!

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 10:36:36 -0400
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hey everyone! it's me, julianna, whippersnapper representative! well, i
finally did it! i ditched aol and now have a completely free and wonderful
school account! i missed you guys while i was in computer limbo for about 3
days- i got a nice new ast bravo ms 5133 w/ a pentium chip and a 28.8
modem! life is good! mainly, i was wanting to reply to the "singing along"
post that some really smart person started a while ago. being the
screeching soprano that i am, i find it much easier to sing em's part.
let's put it this way- sometime's em's notes are too low for me! amy's
notes i often just can't reach- like, i'll open my mouth and nothing will
come out! it's frightening! i'm desperately searching for someone in my
school who actually likes the girls and can sing amy's part so we can form
a little bandy-poo. so, that's my voice and life in a nutshell!
julianna
whippersnapper rep, ssim yknib naf bulc

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 10:46:13 -0400
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subject:      fraze show
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i got tix for the show on friday, june 13th. it starts at 8:30 rain or
shine. i got plaza seats (not lawn -- closer to the stage) on the right
side. who's side is that?

the group i'm going with suggested mama's, as expected, but we'd probably
be willing to change that to whereever the list folks are gonna be...

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cincinnati college of pharmacy. actor, director, ibm fanatic, technical
writer, dog (jrt) lover, single guy, & much, much more! try my home page
at: "http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"     "the only way out is through."
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ric: isn't "the man" the guy who's always bringing everyone down?
dug: nope! 'cause you da man!!
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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 09:37:26 -0500
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from:         michael j cox <imagx@ix.netcom.com>
subject:      new to list greetings

hello to all the members of the ig list. i have just discovered this
great list. i saw the girls at the fort worth show and they were
great!!!!! of course. i wish i had found this list before then maybe i
would have known some people at the show. i do not know if any one
caught the girls interview on the radio (93.3). i recorded it while at
work so it is not the greatest sound quality (a little static). but it
was cool.
*** personal note: i am looking for other people in the dallas area who
play the guitar and would like to get together and play. i am a fair
guitarist and i want to learn the ig's stuff. so if any one is
interested out there (any level of play is ok) please email me at
imagx@ix.netcom.com
thanks
  michael.

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 23:10:31 -0400
reply-to:     "jan m. vansyckel" <janmv@supernova.de-inc.com>
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this will be quick. just returned from a long hiatus from the list. now that
it festival season and the new ig album is out figured that i would sign
back up and check it out.

take care all!

- jan (was janmv@tiac.net)

ps. will be seeing the girl *tonight* at unh in durham, nh

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 11:38:26 -0400
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it's a sing-a-long....so everybody type loud enough so amy can hear all
of us at unh  <*grin*>

happy birthday to you
happy birthday tooo youuu
happy birthday dear aaaaaaaaaaammmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
happy birthday toooooooo youuuuuuuuuuuuuu

(sorry for the screeches, now y'all know why i *don't* want to get
onstage with a&e :)

i bought rites of passage yesterday...yes, i didn't have it before, i was
waiting for a special day and hearing andi's voice when i told her i got
the sonic session passes made yesterday pretty special, it was such a
beautiful moment.  i wish you all could have been there.

so i've been listening to rop, not that i haven't heard it before but i
hadn't bonded with it or focused on lyrics, and "let it be me" just spoke
to me, really captured the essence of the changes in my purpose for
living which have happened over the last four years.  "if the world is
night shine my life like a light"  those words are just perfect, emily
gets at what's in my head like no one else can.


i also picked up band de soleil's "redemption dream" -- i recommend it, as
i recommend everything michelle malone i've heard thus far -- thanks
sundara for getting me hooked! -- and i heard the new orleans jazz fest
boot for the first time (thanks to andi) and that was pretty neat to hear
from a "historical" point of view in addition to it just being great
music, and now i'm listening (again thanks to andi :) to some *real*
history, the study hall: ap english boot.  it's neat.  it feels, hmm...
casual.  real casual.  they're enjoying themselves, enjoying making music,
but amy isn't yet showing the intensity we know her for and emily's
clearly still at a developing stage of both her lyrics and her ideas.
it's hopeful and inspiring, seeing how much they've both grown and how far
they've both gotten in the last nearly sixteen years.  when i look back at
what i was writing at the end of high school it seems kinda comparable to
where amy and emily were then, eager, full of promise and hope but also
somewhat naive and perhaps a bit too idealistic.  hadn't quite learned to
distinguish melodrama from straightforward emotion.  and yet, there are a
few real gems too, bits of prose that make me wish i could have a
conversation with myself back then, imagine being able to capture your
seventeen-year-old mind in your twenty-one-year-old craft.  it all makes
me wonder where i'll be in another twelve years.  (hoo boy, imagine being
a newbie to the list then, if we're all still here!  ah, well, by then
i'm sure plenty of us will be looking for some fresh.......oops...<*hand
covers mouth*> bad audrey, nope, don't go there.  sorry folks.  it's
rainy out and i'm bored.  anyone want to come over and bake cookies?)

hope that everyone at unh is having a blast and that *everyone* is getting
their daily dose of indigo.

take care,
audrey

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 12:19:03 edt
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subject:      urgent advice needed igc

hi... i am kind of new to the list.... and i have a question...
i hope it hasn
t been discussed before.  i just bought a "collectors edition" of indigo girls
the album.  it says it is a  24-karat gold disc, complete original artwork,
4-color cd picture labels, from the original master tapes and rave reviews
from stereophile, audio, musician magazines and more.  on the back it says
"you are holding the definitive version of this album classic.  all
titles in the mastersound series are produced to the hightest possible
standard.  the latest sonic technologies and state of the art equipment.
plus intensive archival research to find the original masters assures
a listening experience that puts you in the studio with the artist himself."
here's the deal... i want to rip it open and listen to it.  should i?  i
mean... will i be messing up the value of this.... is it even valuable?
i don't know how long i can keep myself from ripping it open.  ag!
any help would be greatly appreciated.
erika

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 12:24:13 edt
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subject:      jen's boot offer to those who responded. read!

hi, i've been ragingly sick for the past 3 days so i haven't been
able to check my e-mail since a few days ago.  to those who i have
on my list to dub tapes, don't freak or anything cuz i'm still here.
it's just taking me a bit to recover and get things squared away.  there
are also some people who i've been trying to reach about the offer
(namely dr. pitre, if your out there) but your mail keeps coming back
to me as undeliverable.  i'm gonna try e-mailing those of you privately
again.  finally, to those who haven't sent their confirmation to me
yet, please do so so we can get this show on the road.  thanks! jen:)

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 09:55:58 -0700
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hi everyone -

i'd like to offer to  coordinate a tape tree for the eugene show, 4/4.

i have a boot and will tape it for the 12 branches of the tree.  so -
any volunteers for tree branches? :-)  i need at least 12 to make it
work.

e-mail me privately.

thanks -

mk

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what i think is so funny about all of this ellend censoring, etc is that
i assume that once she is out on the show, the show will have ellen, a
lesbian, on it *every* week, and so the content will be "unacceptable"
every week, so does that mean these stations and such will never show
ellen again, and that chrysler will never advertise on ellen again, etc?

dumb fucks!!!!

i hate stupidness

-larissa

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i missed this...could someone forward it to me?

thanks so much!!!

also, i know there are more northern california people out there!

mail me about this party idea, friend! i want this to happen! we might
even have a place to do it! woo fun!

-larissa

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 13:17:40 edt
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subject:      please read(jen's boot offer)

well, i'm totally freakin frustrated!  i can't privately e-mail all
of you,so to others who have nothing to do with this boot offer,
i'm soo sorry about the space waste but i don't know how else to reach
80 gazillion people.  i have a set number of people on my list that
i said i would dub tapes for.  here is my address.  jen kim 170 old
north rd. apt a, kingston, ri 02881.  send your blank tapes for me
to dub here.  include in your sase and tapes, an index card
reminding which tapes to dub for you.  (remember, there aren't any
limits to how many you can get so send a 90 min normal bias tape
for every boot that you want, except the emily at decatur boot
which requires 2, 90 min tapes)  and to those who try to sneak
send a blank tape to me to dub in the hopes of getting something
if you weren't one of the original people that responded to my offer,
                                     i ain't dubbing nothing for you!
i'm alreay losing my mind juggling 80 people's requests.
please be reminded that i'm only gonna be at this address for another
month or so, so get your tapes to me by may 1 to ensure that you get
your stuff back.
    last thing, i've been trying to contact some of you bending over
backwards to see if you still wanted the tapes.  some haven't gotten
back to me so your off the list.  i felt bad b/c i hate it when i
can't come through for a fellow listee, but duh, i finally realized
that i ain't yo mama.  i actually don't have to spend all my free
free time tracking you guys down b/c it's not my responsibility.
thanks you for allowing me to vent! jen :)

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i was listening to some friends cds last night...type o- and marilyn
manson...well, i heard the song "the beautiful people" (which is a good
driving fast song, imho) and i heard the line "can't see the forest for
the trees"....hello?
that's also in "if you live like that" by ig...*quote* "our love is
sweet..it can drive me to my knees...we still got troubles you and
i...can't see the forest for the trees..." *unquote*
*sings* i think someone's a closet ig faaaaaaannnnnnn :) *snickers*

"...i don't need napkins, i'm surrounded by lesbians!!" -chastity, friend o' da chickenman....

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 14:08:01 -0400
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cancer claims unsung writer of some of era's greatest hits

reprinted without permission from the boston globe, tuesday april 10 1997

by steve morse, globe staff
laura nyro, a cosmically inclined feminist who wrote major hits for barbra
streisand; the fifth dimension; and blood, sweat and tears, died yesterday
of ovarian cancer at the age of 49.  it was just a month after the release
of her compilation,"stoned soul picnic:the best of laura nyro," that had
helped bring her idealism to a new generation.

nyro, along with carole king and joni mitchell, was among the first singers
to write in an authentic women's voice after years of industry decrees that
men write for them.

she had kept a low profile for the past 20 years while raising her son, gil,
emerging for infrequent but well received performances that included a stop
at the newport folk festival in 1989.  she released only one album in the
'80s, "mother's spiritual."  hre last album of originals, "walk the dog &
light the light," which defended animal rights and native americans, was
released in 1993.

nyro died in her home in danbury, conn. with "the support and love of her son,
gil bianchini, and her life partner, maria desiderio," according to the
statement from the elizabeth rush agency in boston.  it said a private funeral
service would be held but did not say when.

a onetime teenage prodigy, nyro was the bronx born daughter of an italian
jazz trumpeter and a jewish homemaker.  she soaked up the sounds of urban
doo-wop and soul, cambined them with a churchy gospel wail and the hippie
sentiments of the '60s- and distilled it into such hits as "stoned soul
picnic," "sweet blindness," wedding bell blues," and "save the country,"
all hits for the fifth dimension.

"i don't think people realize how many songs she penned.  she's a well-sung
unsung songwriting hero," emily saliers of the indigo girls said yesterday.
"she had the ability that great songwriters have to bring you to an emotional
realm that cannot be named."

nyro, alas, never scored a hit with her own versions, but kept writing hits
for others.  in the late '60s early '70s (when david geffen became her
manager), she penned "eli's coming" for three dog night, "stony end" and
"time and love" for streisand, and "and when i die," for blood, sweat and
tears.

nyro wrote "and when i die" when she was 19.  the lyrics captured the live-
for-the-moment  spirit of the late '60s: "i'm not scared of dyin' and i
don't really care/if it's peace you find in dyin'/well then let the time be
near."  she would later play it in a concert in a quieter, more meditative
fashion with mandolin.

not easily pigeonholed because she crossed genres from soul and jazz to rock
and blues, nyro never totally fit in with ehr own career.  she was booed off
stage at the monterey pop festival, for instance, because she sang some
streetcorner doo-wop that clashed with the psychedelic-rock tone of the event.

nyro was a stubborn, searching individualist who also paved the way for
literate songwriters such as rickie lee jones and suzanne vega.  and, as
the years went by, her peaceful aims intensified.  one of her last songs,
"art of love," sounded a message of peace with help of recorded voices
from isreal, africa, america, and italy.

"i have complete freedom as a songwriter, which is a very good feeling,"
nyro told billboard.  "i look at my music as 'soul talk' - a healing
using the language of love - and i think there's more of that kind of
feeling in it now."


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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 14:21:50 -0400
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from:         "indigo ann. user." <indigogrl@aol.com>
subject:      nigc - ellen fiasco

hi friends,

      well, as a silent member, most of the time, of this list i must comment
with respect to the "ellen" episode. as a 30 year old woman, i've seen my
share of discrimination and homphobia during my life whether directed toward
me or another. we, as a society, cannot permit this kind of censorship. this
episode is not pornography nor does it promote homosexuality. this eposide
deals with the reality that gay and lesbian people live in our society
because they're part of our society. when will people learn that
homosexuality is not a choice and not deviant behavior.

      secondly, i am old enough to remember watching "soap" on tv weekly.
billy crystal's character "jody" was very gay and very "out." this series was
very popular and uncensored in terms of the content. so, why the problem now?
is it because ellen is a woman? is it because she is the lead character?

      i don't have the answers but i do know that i'll be watching the hour
long episode and i applaude ellen's brave endeavour. sadly, abc will probably
buckle to main stream radicals packing big dollars forcing ellen off the air.
all i can say is ...i hope not.

      annie :)

  "every thought's a possibility" - emily saliers

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hey y'all !  i'm just so friggin' excited i had to yell it out to my buds.
i've been in virginia for the last 9 weeks to dedicate studying for my
compaq ase and a microsoft mcse certification programs.  well, i passed my
last test today and i'm certified!  and the entire time, i was wearing my
"good luck" shirt - - the map demo tour t-shirt !!!   so, thanks a&e for
pulling me thru!

partying tonight!
- jen hall


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from:         "j \"tigger\" kickliter" <emilyamy@aol.com>
subject:      re: the oracle of bacon @ virginia (yes igc)

i ran this game, it's very cute, and i found out that our beloved a & e both
have a bacon number of 2 because they were in bots with a guy named george
georgiadis (who???  i dunno) who was in sleepers with kevin bacon.

just my .02 worth of trivia for today  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, the fortunate one (emilyamy@aol.com)

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whoa....  those people (i assume it's the "florida american family
association" mentioned at the end of that post) who are against "gay
day" want everyone to write in letters about it?  let's all write in
letters about how much we *love* the idea!  "protect" the children from
seeing such un-family-oriented people as those god-forsaken homosexuals
at disney world?  i think not!  i'm sure i'm not alone on this listserv
in my humble opinion that gays are people too.  i had never heard of this
event at disney but i think it's absolutely *wonderful* that such a
company that absolutely does have the power to influence kids' minds is
doing something like this.  it makes gays & lesbians visible to everyone
in an environment where they are accepted as the normal everyday people
that they deserve to be seen as.

i, for one, plan on writing in support.  not 'cause i think disney needs
to hear it (they're obviously already on my side), but because they're
apparently about to be flooded with messages from other people who
*don't* like their idea.

in case anyone else is interested, i've pasted along the address from the
other post:

>michael eisner- chairman- walt disney co.
>500 south buena vista street, burbank, california  91521

>fax: 1-818-560-1300 or 1-818-560-1930


thanks for listening,
deb the indigeek

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from:         c a finlayson <gynergy@juno.com>
subject:      ligc-laura nyro in boston globe

someone asked about the globe article quoting emily on laura nyro's
death:

reprinted and excerpted without permission
cancer claims unsung writer of some of era's greatest hits
by steve morse

laura nyro,a cosmically minded feminist who wrote major hits for barbra
streisand,the fifth dimension,and blood,sweat & tears died yesterday of
ovarian cancer at age 49. it was just a month after the release of a
compilation "stoned soul picnic:the best of laura nyro" that had helped
bring her idealism to a new generation.
nyro,along with carole king and joni mitchell, was among the first
singers to write in an authentic women's voice after years of industry
decrees that men write for them..............

nyro died at her home in danbury,conn with "the support and love of her
son,gil bianchini and her lifes' partner maria desiderio" according to a
statement from the elizabeth rush agency in boston.it said a private
funeral service would be held but did not say when...............

***** "i don't think people realize how many songs she's penned. she's a well-sung, unsung songwriting hero," emily saliers of the indigo girls
said yesterday. "she had the ability that great songwriters have to
bring you to an emotional realm that cannot be named."*******

nyro, alas, never scored a hit with her own versions, but kept writing
hits for others:
"eli's coming" for three dog night, "stoney end" and "time and love" for
barbra streisand and "and when i die" for blood, sweat & tears.........

nyro was a stubborn, searching individualist who also paved the way for
literate songwriters such as rickie lee jones and suzanne vega.

gynergy
(who,thanks to a kind friend is going to the unh show tonight after all
!!)

>from our children to our elders, from all nations we will rise
may respect for all our differences ,enhance our common ties
pat humphries "common threads"

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subject:      ok seattle, her ya go! (not guessin' anymore!)

i was pretty damn close on my guess (and then betsy told me they
sorta announced these dates as "probable")  but anyways...
from the sony pages on the web:

> the pier
>
> seattle, wa
>
> 7-11-1997indigo girls '97 tour
>
> 7-12-1997indigo girls '97 tour
>
> 7-13-1997indigo girls '97 tour

pretty cool, huh?

later,

ann

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hi y'all!

i'm the taurus branch of da chickenman's "carnage" tour tree, and i've only
gotten three boot requests! i know there are some of you that must've
missed out it...i know you want a copy of this badass compilation!
so...i'll be taking the first 7 people to e-mail me. it takes up a 90
minute blank, but if you have a boot list go ahead and send it to me!


shanna freeman                                         sfreeman@coe.uga.edu

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need to be. so why worry about it? all we have to do is live in harmony
with the way, for the benefit of the world, and let its power work through
us. let *it* do the work.  --from _the te of piglet_ by benjamin hoff

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subject:      more lyrical ponderings - barely igc

being the instigator that i am <who, me?>, i would like to point out to
the list that i heard a new van morrison song yesterday, and it contained
the phrase "dog in a manger."

<running away in utter terror>

- lorie

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i've been working on the birthday list, getting things sorted out and
stuff, and i ran across a list pal of mine that i haven't heard from
in a long time.  does anyone happen to know what happened to
cranberry <ch002jt@arriba.nm.org>?

anna

"i've got two x chromosomes and i'm not afraid to use them."  -ellen degenres


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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hi yall
want to make an addition to m.k.'s offer to coordinate a boot tree for
the eugene show.  we had been talking about how to handle the tree and
she is going to coordinate it.  however, i have the original, and in an
effort to decrease her traffic and increase my collection, i am willing
to do some trades.  i am looking for some of their older stuff.  more
specifically interested in good copies of "color me grey", "tuesdays
children", "white dot" and anything from the  august 1994 concerts from
seattle wa, troutdale or, berkley ca, universal ampitheater la, san
diego pops, or mesa arizona.

please e-mail me privately.    mel

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anybody know what happened to brooke robertshaw? i sent her six tapes in
1995...haven't seen one yet :)
-tracy

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subject:      re: igc questions.. put your thinking caps on

in a message dated 97-04-11 17:31:17 edt, boilrmkr@bu.edu wrote:

<< 1) if you, amy and emily were wonder-triplets (instead of the
wondertwins.. those superheros) what shape/form would you usually
take?? i think one always had to be an animal, the other a form
of ice sculpture.. and always always purple *giggle hi sundara!*

i'd be the ice sculpture:  an ice princess with magical powers to shoot
icicles into the bodies of list-flamers and people who say mean things about
my goddess, amy..... (just teasing y'all)

2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
they've given, what would it be? >>

definitely _ishmael_  i can't remember the author's name right offhand but i
recommend this book to *everyone*  it's an excellent read and it'll sure make
you think!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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hey ben and all,

>   this is also the first time a gay person is not playing a stereotype.
> in most sit-coms gays and lesbians are seen as either queens or
> unrealistically butch lesbians. not to say that these people don't exsist

i agree wholeheartedly with the first sentence, and most of the second
sentence (and all the rest of the post for that matter) but actually
lesbians on tv aren't usually portrayed as unrealistically butch, they're
portrayed as way feminine and beautiful. i mean, c'mon, no one wants to
look at a boyish-looking woman, right?

geez, i'm really beating a dead horse here, but it's one of my favorite
topics!

folkisgruven,
lorindigo (the faux amy)


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lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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hey, y'all.

        never really thought that amy and melissa really looked that much
alike, accept for that they both have extremely beautiful, intense, brown
eyes.  i also think that melissa looks like an angel on the back of the
never enough cover.  she's, well, just stunning in that picture.
        ok... i'm a college student and i just broke a social norm- i
bought the seventeen issue (gulp).  may i hang my head in shame!  i felt
like such a moron at the newsstand- my friend buys the details sex issue
and there i am with my conspiculously concealed (there's a little
aliteration, for you :-) ) seventeen.  god,i sound like one of my sociology
major friends with the social norm thing.  anyway, all i can say is that
they look, so "done".  never thought i'd see 'em in such stylin' duds.  i
wonder if they actually wanted a wardrobe, etc. makeover.  if they did,
great. if not, i think it's kind of silly to put them in pretty clothes
just so they fit the seventeen mold.   i liked amy's hair,though, and they
both looked great in the photo.
        the book thread-  my personal fave-  their eyes were watching god,
by zora neale hurston.  what a powerful, wonderful story of women's
strength.  read it last year in ap english and it instantly became one of
my all time faves.  i'm sure that both of them have already read it, but i
thought i'd mention it.
        ok, my friend and i were talking about the ellen controversy last
night and about those who have chosen not to sponsor it.  she made a very
valid point about general motors's and chrysler's decision to pull away
from the episode-  "what, lesbians don't drive cars?"  just some food for
thought.
        anyway, that's about it for now.  hope all is well in indigoland.

                take care and be happy,

                        sarah :-)

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i live in a box of paints."        because nothing ends."
         -joni mitchell                -smendrick, the last unicorn


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but if you can't be kind to people   i think that magic's in the learning."
everyday then it doesn't mean                -dar williams
that much to me."
        -ani difranco

                      "there are a lot of people who
                       figure prominently in your life
                       that you may only nod to; it's
                       better to stop and say hello."
                                -amy ray
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ok, this whole controversy over ellen is getting to the point where it's
almost not funny anymore. actually, i'm sitting here listening to ferron
turned up to about "9" and reading all the ellen stuff (advertisers
pulling ads, affiliates not airing it, and how showing reality will harm our
children), and i'm noticing this funny wet stuff coming out of my eyes.
dammit this _hurts_! did you ever wonder what it felt like to be the
target of racism and hatred? gee, i wonder if it feels anything like
this. now for the question part: i wanna start emailing people (or
writing, whatever i have to do). i know addresses for chrysler have been
posted (and i should still have them) but does anyone know how i'd go
about sending my opinions to the likes of pat robertson and jerry
falwell? (oddly enough, i'm not on their mailing list.) (and any other
relevant names.) it's all very fine to vent our  anger here among
friends. how about venting to the people who are hurting us? how about
saying a thing or two to the people who have likened gays and lesbians to
nazis, and devil worshipers. (yeah, check that one out. i heard a quote
where one of those two buttwipes equated homosexuality with nazi-ism.
ummm...check your history pal.)

a very upset,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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hi everyone,

mery meet !!

i just joined the list and wanted to introduce myself, and say "hi !!"
my name is vonne and i am 36.  i live in the boston area and the girls
will be here at wheaton college next week.  they will also be here in
june; at great woods !!  you all probably already know this; but for
anyone who doesen't...

i have been a fan for years and i have quite a scrapbook !!  things i
have saved over the years.  ticket stubs, pictures, bandanas gotten at
concerts, magazine articles from the advocate, fan club pics, articles,
etc.; and of course, a miriad of t-shirts and posters !!

i am always looking for new items to put in it !!  i have a scanner so i
can share what i already have with anyone who wants it !!

thank you for taking the time to read this !!  i look forward to a long
a happy life here on this list !!

merry part !!

i am,
vonne

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subject:      "fugitive" sounds like a waterboys song?

ok, me again.

um, i'm here listening to this waterboys album from about '85 or so.
listening to the song "this is the sea."  well, gee, see what song that
reminds you of...hmm.  fugitive.  especially the "hide yourself for me"
part.

going away now,
lorie

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subject:      tix for wolf trap

okay, am posting this once again....

tix for the may wolf trap show go on sale tomorrow...  anyone going to be
standing in the line, dripping of that wet stuff falling from the sky (rain!
for those of you who might have too much fun with that otherwise)?  let's
wait in line together!  yes?

hope everyone is having a great week-end!

court

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 18:59:07 -0500
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can someone e-mail me privately and let me know what type of merchandise
they're selling at the concerts?  new t-shirts?  new posters?  please let
me know.  they're gonna be spending a bit 'o time in texas and i already
got my hubby eyeing 4 of the concerts.

thanks,
- jen hall

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date:         sat, 12 apr 1997 17:11:56 -0700
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hey all you boot-copying experts,

i'd like advice from anyone who has an opinion on the right equipment for
copying tapes.  i'm thinking of buying something and if i did, i could
volunteer to be a branch on a boot tree, but i want to know that whatever
i buy will be good enough to produce decent tapes.  i'd be looking for
low-end equipment.

so, i'd appreciate any advice/recommendations on brands and models, and
price range too if you know it.   send them to me, please, at
alisont@netcom.com and if there is a lot of information and general
interest, i'll post a summary back to the list.

thanks,

alison

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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hiya peoples,

first of all, i would like to say thank you :)) to all the lovely
individuals who responded to my plea for interview questions.  i got a
lot of ideas and some really inventive stuff to include for tuesday.
(only 3 more days...)

i tried to reply individually to everyone who wanted more details about
the interview, but i got kinda swamped, so i figured i'd just let you
all know, and will keep you updated when i get more info.

anyway, if you should be in the penn state area on april 15th, are going
to the concert, etc., the radio station is wehr -- let me explain
something about this tho.  it stands for east halls radio, and the
studio is located in findlay/johnston commons (in east halls).  which
means you can come down to the station and watch the interview, maybe
even meet da girls.  you cannot listen to the interview as it happens
unless you live on-campus and get the hfs bulletin board channel, which
is channel 2.  ya see, we don't have a transmitter at the moment, so our
only means to broadcast is through the cable system.  (believe me, it
*sucks*.)  as of right now, i do not know the exact time of the
interview.  i will prolly find out tomorrow, but then again, i might not
know until tuesday.  as soon as i find out, i'll post the time.

i'll be taping it, so again i extend the offer of dubbing -- i would
love to exchange for boots, but if you don't have anything to trade, no
prob.  just send me a tape and the necessary postage.  :)
(if you've already emailed me about getting a recording of the
interview, i have your name on a list, so you don't need to do it
again.)

thanks again!!!!!  ;)

lurve,
feather (who is wondering how she'll be keeping her *professional*
composure on tuesday...)

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i worked on that subject line a long time.  it was really close between
that one and "why am i even bothering to post this".  but you can't ever
have too much really useless trivia, can you?

anyway, it's really hot and sunny here in southern california today so
naturally, i went to the mall.  that t-shirt of emily's is on sale at
miller's outpost (no, i didn't buy it.  no, i will not tell you how long i
stood looking at it thinking about buying it.) anyway, the great marginal
information content here:  it's a rage against the machine t-shirt.

yeah, really.  in tiny little print under the sesame street has been
brought to you today by the letter e design, it says copyright rage
against the machine.   i don't know much about them at all, so i have
only some random guess that maybe it's an evil empire shirt, but now things
make sense in a happy kind of way.  emily is veeeery subtle.

in fact, i wish ig would have big primary-color s t-shirts instead of the
barbie doll on black velvet shirt that i couldn't even bring myself to
buy.

hope you're thrilled to know this,

alison - with very few e's anywhere in her name

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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subject:      april 12th!!

happy birthday amy ray!

*giggle*

seems appropriate that i should hear soy for the first time tonight....

-liz-(getting offline! going out! finally!)

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subject:      (nigc) chat site

there's a chat place (real time chat, no software download) with quick
registration (no $) at:

http://www.cybergrrl.com

this is a great place to visit and hang out with people. almost no one
goes there (it's not publicized yet) and it's a nice quiet place to go.
i'd love to see some indigo fans there! look me up.....i'm "alix".

-liz-

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>happy birthday amy ray!
>seems appropriate that i should hear soy for the first time tonight....

yes! i finally heard the studio version on the radio today too (about 15
minutes ago) on 92.9 (you can pick this station up in seattle). this is the
same station i called a couple weeks ago and the dj didn't even know ig had
a new single out (boo). anyway i got in my car and turned on the radio
right after the 1st verse. i read the banjo debate with some interest and
decided i probably wouldn't like the banjo. well i was wrong, i think it's
fun and it adds to the wiggling-in-my-seat toe-tapping effect the song has
on me. needless to say i shrieked a bit when i realized what was playing --
good thing i was alone. :) i don't think i've ever been so excited to hear
a song on the radio. :) so far the dj hasn't said anything about who sang
the song but maybe he introduced it before it started. :( well now i'll
start calling this station again and bugging them to play it.

hmm i think i'll call tonight and request an amy song in honor of amy's
birthday (and bonnie's too! haha today is bonnie's birthday, i know she
wants y'all to know that!) happy birthday to amy and bonnie. :)

kristina

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subject:      re: ellen again...
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i just read lorinda's post, and am finally getting up courage!  with all this
controversy i am finally going seriously public on a personal matter that
shows just how badly the "right" can hurt us.  i don't want to depress
anyone, but we are at a critical point in our freedom and i hope this will
help some of us not give up right now.. especially over a tv show.

my 11 year old son died in 1987 indirectly because i did not know how to
fight legislated homophobia.  i had legal and physical custody at the time.
when his father showed up on my door step after driving all night half way
across the country, i knew it was absolutely hopeless to win any court battle
to retain custody in this state (virginia).

yes i am a lesbian and was then.  there was no way a judge in this
conservative state would have allowed me to retain custody based on my sexual
orientation alone.  in this state i am a .. have to think.. "sodomite."

so many people said to me at the time, "it's the best thing."  i was
devastated.  less than six months later my ex-husband allowed my son to ride
a borrowed bicycle in a strange town and the result was a parent's worst
nightmare.  my son, being distracted and clumsy like so many kids that age,
drove the bicycle right in front of a pickup truck.  i flew out there because
since i was the custodial parent my permission was needed for organ donation
(which was successful i might add).

if i were not gay, i could have retained custody.  my son would probably be
alive today.  he was such a wonderful kid - very personable and very bright.
i found out that a few weeks before he was killed he gave his father a copy
of alice walker's "the color purple" and said, "here, dad, you really oughta
read this."

oh yeah - my son did a helluva ernest angley impression.  he wasn't around
long enough to see jimmy swaggert get busted.  but he was around long enough
to make a difference.  and he was not a homophobe.

what i have come to realize is that i could have been the sleaziest, most
unethical, cruel and unkind woman.  i could have had a different man over
every night.  maybe even several and i would have been able to retain
custody.  and my son would probably be alive today.  he would have been 22
last monday.

yeah this is just a cameo version of a living hell - but let me add one more
thing.  we are the fortunate ones - we at least know that love is preferable
to senseless death.  i pity those who think that homosexuality is the
absolute worst thing that can happen.  i wish these folks could overcome
their indoctrination.

now - tell me who is a "nazi"??

kathy

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help!! my aloe died! *pouts* but there's something funky growing out of
the soil that i don't want to uproot until i figure out what it is...my
question is this...can a plant that finds it way to another plants space
kill it?? i took good care of my aloe...i just don't understand....i
mean my poor aloe looked like it had the very essence sucked out of it!!
*pouts*....now there's some funky jagged-leafed plant growing from the
soil where it was...>:( i'm upset....the plant growing now looks
evil...*sighs*
reminds me of my last relationship :/
-sal

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i'm sorry to waste bandwidth, but i'm really anal about my
spelling...geen should be green...

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subject:      riverside theater 7/14/94 boot

hi y'all,

i've posted this question to the list once before, and i thought
i got an affirmative, but alas, i may have lost the mail of that
affirmative response, or i thought i had one (sorry jude!) but
actually didn't, so....

does anyone have a boot of the 7/14/94 riverside
theater, milwaukee, wi concert?  i'm getting
desperate!!!

lisa

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subject:      nigc - tracy chapman

does anyone know if tracy chapman is on tour or if she
will be any time soon?  someone posted to the list that
she just did letterman on friday (which i unfortunately
missed), and i wonder if this is because she has a new
album in the works.  any info would be much appreciated.
seeing chapman in concert would make my year, besides
those ig concerts i am seeing, of course.  :)

lisa
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subject:      ig hats, charms; growing older

hi y'all,

i am a baseball cap collector, of sorts.  have there ever
been any concert caps for sale on any of the tours?  i want
a cap that says indigo girls.  if there are some, does anyone
know how i might obtain one?  if not, this might be a good
project for someone.  there've been t-shirts every year, but
what about baseball caps?  (btw, when is the list t-shirt
project going to start up again?)

another project suggestion (and forgive my newbie self if
this has been suggested or done before):  what about
charms?  i was in a jewelers today and i asked about custom
designed charms.  the jewelers i talked to only do 14 karat (or
more) charms, so they run a pretty high price.  maybe we can
get some gold plated charms that read ig or a+e=ig or even
a guitar with ig engraved on it.  just a thought.  for myself, i
was toying with the idea of getting gold ig with inset diamonds.
looked kinda cool, but i don't know if spending the $220 would
be, um, er, an affordable thing to do.  kinda makes it seem, er,
um, obsessive, doesn't it? (of course, gold plated would be
much more affordable, especially in large quantities.)

btw, happy birthday, amy!!!!!!!  i was thinking that since i just
became a fan about two years ago, i missed all the concerts
and such in the past 8 years and only knew of ig from the commercial
cds.  for me, they've been eternally in their 20s.   i'm learning new
things
about them every day.  most are things about their past, which are old
hat to most of you.  this past then collides with today's reality, and
i'm daily
reminded that, heck, just like the rest of us, they are getting older.  i
know,
33 is not that old, but they have a long track record.  when will this
end?
sorry, i shouldn't be talking about this now.  when i depress myself with

these thoughts, i make myself happier when i consider that a&e are going
to do another album after sots, this one more folky.  so, it seems they
have no intention of stopping any time soon.  thank god.  and, they keep
getting better and better as the years progress.  ain't that the truth?!

lisa

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hi, all...sorry 'bout this, but i just had to get it out of my system...and
i know *someone* out there just has to understand! as everyone already knows
(because i rarely pass up the opportunity to share this so everyone can feel
guilty :■), i have never had the chance to see the girls perform live. i
refuse to die before i achieve this one thing!!!! anyway, i'm sittin' here
listening to my new boots over and over (thanks nicole, tony, and joni!!! i
really feel like i belong now! ;) and i've gotta ask you guys...does
everyone just involuntarily tear up when the audience sings along? ha! i
guess this makes me sound like a real idiot, but during emily in decatur
when she stops singing "ghost" and the crowd just keeps going...i can't sing
cause it makes me cry!! it is just soooo touching! imagine how the girls
must feel like bursting with pride and appreciation when thousands of
strangers actually *get* it, love it, and give it right back to them like
that!! if (whoops...not if, when!) i ever get to go to an ig concert, i'll
prolly sob the whole time and miss the show! i'll prolly hug everyone within
reach...all complete strangers because i have yet to meet another ig fan
here so i'll be going to any shows alone (and i'll apologize in advance in
case i end up next to any fellow listees, because this *will* happen...i'm
impossibly affectionate, sorry). geez, if i ever get the chance to actually
*meet* a&e, i'll prolly get myself arrested...i can hear them now: "um..can
someone please get this soggy person *off* us? she must be deranged or drunk
or something...she's hiccuping and slurring her words and snottin' all over
us! ewww!" lol! sorry, it's been a long day! i know this post made
absolutely no sense, so please forward any complaints privately and spare me
public humiliation. and to anyone who reads this and says, "yes!! me too!"
or has any touching live ig moments to share, please respond...privately or
not i don't care...we certainly could use a new 'positive' thread, don't ya
think?

one more comment...or question, rather: i've only heard a tiny bit of
michelle malone on the emily in decatur boot, and i'm already hooked. can
anyone suggest some of her material to start with?

thanks for tolerating a newbie's inane ramblings! i just knew you guys would
understand! :)

mary e.

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mary t. eichman            happy times don't last long
po box 55753                i finally got there
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just saw snl...
and next week's band is *not* ig!
did i get my dates wrong? i thought they were
scheduled for the 19th???

can anyone confirm??

thanks!

t :)

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okay, i am now having a much better day....right after i was done reading
all those posts about finally hearing shame on you on the radio on amy's
b'day, and feeling rather sorry for myself....i hear some really familiar
chords on the radio....ahhhh! :) i even nabbed it on tape. gawd, i love
amy's laugh....oh, sorry.

anyway, i _did_ have a question...could someone be so kind as to send me
the dates we know of already for the great pnw? there were 3 seattle ones,
and some oregon ones....any bc ones yet? i _refuse_ to have to miss them
by _one friggin' day_.

back to lurk mode...have a happy indigo day, y'all!
:) stephanie the very much happier now

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subject:      unh show: the whole scoop

i just got back from my first live-ig experience, and wow, was ever worth it.

it all started around 5, when my friend and i arrived at the whittemore arena.
we actually managed to sneak a peek into the hall and watch amy warm up,
hearing snippets from "hand me downs", "three hits", "shed your skin", and
"cut it out" (out of which only the last two were actually done at the concert
:-().

it was hard to drag myself away from that, but eventually we made our way to
the tin palace and the there-scheduled listee gathering. why did only eight
people show up?! i *know* there were more of you at the show. :-p at any rate,
it was good to see dennis, chris (which chris? who knows! :-)), joni,
margaret, and various non-listee hangers-on, and to be one of four computer
science majors squeezed into a single booth. (was it planned that way? only by
the fates.)

the first memorable moment at the show itself was checking out and purchasing
one of the wonderful tour t-shirts. i, of course, couldn't possibly not have
done this, but my friend took one look at the t-shirt and said that he would
never, under any possible circumstances, wear a shirt like "*that*". i can't
imagine why! ;-)

lift, the opening act, appeared around 8 (as actually scheduled, amazing...)
and they were pretty good, although i have to confess that i was preoccupied
with "when will amy and emily come on?!" thoughts throughout the entire set.
they sort of remind me of ejs and vld, although that might be entirely my
imagination.

there was a half-hour intermission, during which mike reynolds walked up to me
out of nowhere and handed me a dub of sots (don't flame meeee!! i'm going to
buy it too, really.) thanks, mike! the album, which i listen to as i type, is
great, but it's just no comparison to tonight's experience...heh...

the girls came on around 9:30, and here's the obligatory set list:
1. thin line
2. watershed
3. it's alright
4. don't give that girl a gun
5. get out the map
6. shed your skin
7. ghost
8. shame on you
9. power of two
10. scooter boys
11. caramia
12. chiapas bound
13. least complicated
14. cut it out
15. everything in its own time
16. chickenman
17. galileo
**encore**:
18. tried to be true
19. bury my heart at wounded knee
20. closer to fine
...the obligatory fashion report: emily wore a black shirt, her now-famous red
"e" shirt (come on...we all know it's to keep people from whispering "so which
one is emily?" amongst themselves during shows...), and black jeans. amy wore
a cool brown-and-yellow polka dot shirt with the cuffs unbuttoned, a black
t-shirt with lettering that i couldn't make out even from twenty feet away,
and red jeans.
...and the obligatory annotations:
1. a great opening, it was really nice to hear a song that they've been doing
so long, and still sounding fresh and new.
2. what a wonderful surprise! i wonder what made them choose it for this
particular show?
3. **awesome** song. as usual, we're no more enlightened before about what the
line after "hate me cuz i'm different, hate me cuz i'm gay" than we were
before. ;-)
4. wow--this song is so intense, i wouldn't be at *all* surprised if it went
the way of blood and fire within a few months. but it was great to hear it in
the meantime.
5. eh...you just know this song will be a hit, but you also know it doesn't
have the magic of some of the others. next.
6. second of the three really **awesome** of the new songs. amazing.
mind-blowing.
7. another great surprise. the audience sang along practically through the
entire song, and emily's pauses and looks of open-mouthed surprise that
everyone knew all the words were priceless.
8. well, what can i say? i was disappointed to hear "take of our clothes"
changed back to "take off our shoes", though. next they'll be changing
"fucking up" to "screwing up". :-p

at this point, we had planned to sing "happy birthday"...just at the point
where people were starting, emily (or was it amy?) said there would be someone
up to say something very special, and lo and behold, this dude is up on the
stage, saying, "mary jo, i love you with all my heart. will you marry me?"
wow. at which point, the spotlight finds poor mary jo and of course, what else
can she say? i guess that moment was worth the screwup of the happy-birthday
plans that it caused. has anything like that ever happened before at an ig
show?

and this, in turn, was occasion for the funniest bit of concert dialogue of
the whole evening. emily said that it was pretty hard to top a marriage
proposal, and there was a pause, and amy said, "emily, will you marry me?"
emily: "hahahahaha--yes, of *course*!"

a close second in the funny-dialogue competition occured right afterwards,
when someone in the middle of the floor asked for a guitar pick. emily passed
it to someone standing against the stage and it managed to make its way
through n pairs of hands and still reach its final destination. emily's words
at this were, "where's billy graham? i wanna show him this."

9. dedicated to brendan and mary jo, of course. as sweet and lovely as usual.
10. awesome song, if not **awesome**. :-)
11. wow. what an incredible, passionate song...and it's by emily! who woulda
thunk it? :-)
12. the one song that was almost free of screaming and other
audience-rowdiness, and even though i still don't like it, i was grateful for
the moment of quiet it afforded. amy's smile during the "i've heard you were
free or someone thinks you should be" verse was beautiful.
13. of course they couldn't do a show without it, and it provided the moment
when i got up to dance. front row seats are great! 8-)
14. this song has improved *so* much since last year. fiery, fantastic.
15. emily introduced it as a song about waiting for world peace. i think it's
a song that requires a few listens to fully appreciate, although it
immediately made me admire emily's lyrical strength even more than i had.
16. wow. seemed like *everyone* was dancing for this one, although my view was
rather biased, being up by the stage and all...everyone knew all the words,
too, bringing more wonderful looks-of-amazement from emily. amazing, amazing,
amazing, and with the new "mr. buzzard" verse too.
17. notorious as "the song that brings the clueless people". still a good
excuse to shout and dance, nevertheless...

at which point they left the stage and much screaming and such brought them,
and lift, back (and brought everyone in the front who wasn't already out of
their chairs to dance around the stage) for...

18. sounded great, and i swear emily caught my eye during it. hey, she *did*
look my way...%-)
19. totally rocked.
20. the great moment, of course. i'm glad they didn't drop it for the entire
tour.

audience participation: people were pleasantly polite, and i
didn't overhear anyone discussing relationships or the burning "which is amy,
which is emily?" question, or anyone shout out for "blood and fire". i never
knew there were so many different ways to scream, though...;-) and i put up
with people dancing and partially blocking my view for a while before i
finally decided "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." and am glad that i did.

i guess i've gone on long enough, but the question does remain: who has the
boot? i will give my firstborn child in exchange for it. i do mean that.

kirsten, still getting over what turned out to be one of the most amazing
experiences of her short-so-far life.

me, post-show: "now if i die tommorrow, i'll be able to say that my life was
complete."
my friend, in response: "i guess i will headline my concert review with, 'amy
and emily to wed: sexuality question finally resolved.'"

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reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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greetings baby bels!

welp, i thought i'd go ahead and give my impressions of this evening's unh
show..it was a keeper in bootland, that's for sure.

after lift did a rockin set (is it just me and my friends, or are *all* their
songs like 10 minutes long?)....amy and em took the stage for about 3000 of
their closest friends. it was none too intimate of a venue, but at least it was
in new hampshire :) anyhoosit,

they kicked off with "thin line" to my great satisfaction. then....pass the
gouda....they went right into watershed. i was blissed. thankfully, joni didn't
manage to hit record so you won't hear my ass going "oooo! i love this song"

they were in fine form, amy in that red shirt with the white polka dots and em
in her "e" shirt (and i have to insert here that i personally would give up all
the cheese in swtizerland to hear the girls do a folky rendition of rage
against the machine's "killing in the name of") and played lots o the new junk:
shame on you, its alright, caramia, scooter boys, shed your skin (damn that
song rawks!) and slowed it down a bit for "everything in its on time" and dgt
girl some bubble yum. they also played the old favies like least confiscated
recording equipment (no frisking at unh) and galileo, and of course encored
with bmhawk, tried to be true (lift on stage with them for these! nice treat)
and the proverbial ctf (sorry margaret, i groaned too).

it was great to see listers as always....amy photobadass putnam, k8 grant,
carol (gynergy) margaret, mike r, karen harper, deb o dondoghue, and others im
sure im inadvertently fergettin. the highlight of my night was sharing two
chairs with two of the loveliest ladies in new england (you do the math) and
watching to tap tap tap of the security guard as he megabusted people trying to
eek up front.

whoa! world record post from susanna! must go to bed now. im sure someone else
will post thier thoughts and a set list or sumpin. another indigo night comes
to a screeching halt....where is my prozac?

love y'all and stuff

susan
"take it off! take it all off!"
                      ---an anonymous row j lister

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subject:      set list from unh

here's the girls' set list from this evening's concert at the
university of new hampshire.

1. thin line
2. watershed
3. it's allright
4. don't give that girl a gun
5. get out the map
6. shed your skin
7. ghost
8. shame on you
9. power of two
10. scooter boys
11. cara mia
12. chiapas bound
13. least complicated
14. cut it out
15. everything in it's own time
16. chickenman
17. galileo
---encore with lift (opening band)---
18. tried to be true
19. bury my heart at wounded knee
20. closer to fine

i will follow up with more detailed comments about the concert, but i
wanted to get the set list out to y'all right away.

peace and indigo dreams,
fran e.

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subject:      re: set list from unh
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> date:   sun, 13 apr 1997 00:54:41 -0500
<snip>
>
> here's the girls' set list from this evening's concert at the
> university of new hampshire.
>
hah! *not* to be childish or anything, but i beat you to it by three whole
minutes! :-)
<ahem> now back to your regular concert-review schedule...
...kirsten


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in preperation for the girls apperance at penn state tuesday i'm
wondering...how on earth do y'all remember the entire set list? i tried to
remember the list from a show this past weekend and, well, all i could think
of by the time i got to paper-n-pen were the first and last songs. not very
impressive. do any of you experienced concert-goers have any tips? :)

thanks--
tamara

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subject:      my tape loop, atlanta magazine, and other random stuff. (nmigc)

hello, all! =)
      okay, it's time for yet another of my all-encompassing (sp?) posts
because i simply haven't been able to read/write much e-mail lately... for my
tape loop, today was the day to mail the tapes, and i didn't get to send out
the reminder, so it's going to have to be moday, if that's okay. =}  sorry
for the inconvenience... next, if you wrote to me about the atlanta magazine
and i haven't written back to you, give me a day or two; i'm just really
behind.  if you've sent me money for it and haven't received it, the reason
is that there was some confusion between this stacie person and i about who
was sending what where, so i have been waiting to see if she wanted to try to
figure out what was going on.  apparently this person is terribly and
unnecessarily hostile and was unwilling to cooperate with me in figuring out
the misunderstanding, so i'm going to go ahead and send everything monday.
this is a very interesting turn of events.  i'm actually quite disappointed
that i had to run into this person at all... i had always thought of the list
as sort of a family atmosphere, but i certainly would not want this person in
my family. =]  it was disappointing. =]  if you'd like details on the story
just e-mail me and i'll be happy to forward you the mail i got from her.  i
feel like i should send out some sort of warning about her, but that might be
stooping to her level, so i'll be glad to share any info through private
e-mail.  i need to be asleep now, so i hope i said it all. =)  oh!  the live
x is being taped on april 27th. =)  hope to see you there! =)  peace, love,
and happiness, sarah

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>
>and this, in turn, was occasion for the funniest bit of concert dialogue of
>the whole evening. emily said that it was pretty hard to top a marriage
>proposal, and there was a pause, and amy said, "emily, will you marry me?"
>emily: "hahahahaha--yes, of *course*!"
>
>
>kirsten, still getting over what turned out to be one of the most amazing
>experiences of her short-so-far life.
>
>me, post-show: "now if i die tommorrow, i'll be able to say that my life was
>complete."
>my friend, in response: "i guess i will headline my concert review with, 'amy
>and emily to wed: sexuality question finally resolved.'"
>

i'm laughing and grinning wildly.  thanks kirsten for the great
review...it's so neat to hear from someone after a first show, i think
there's really something magical about it, and a front-row first show is
just wow.  wonder if kirsten or mary jo is on a bigger high?  ;)

amy and emily are just so funny, i think i'd go to their shows even if
they didn't sing.  (not that that would really happen i don't think, but
you get what i mean.) i love hearing all the bits of dialogue and banter
that goes on, i seem to learn something from whatever i hear or else
confirm something i'd learned by watching their faces and listening to
their music and trying to fill in the pieces.  it amazes me when i'm right
about something, when i realize i truly have understood.  but i tell ya,
this marriage proposal thing just makes me miss my best friend.  in a good
way, it brings back a good memory.  which i'm going to share because it's
not even six a.m. yet so my nigc censor is still asleep (don't know why
i'm not asleep myself except that i've got a story churning in my head)
and it might make someone or a few someones smile.  last fall i watched go
fish and when it ended another friend called and i said to him "i want a
girlfriend" in that "i want a tickle-me-elmo doll" kind of way, and he
completely missed the point and tried to set me up, and so then i was
feeling all yucky, so i called my best friend (who's been on the other
coast all year, that's why i miss her).  she's telling me about this guy
she's seeing but when i say to her, that same way, "i want a girlfriend"
she responds immediately, same way, "so do i."  the exact perfect right
thing to say.  and so of course i ask "will you go out with me" and she
asks at the same time "will you marry me" and it was all just so sweet and
warm and fuzzy feeling.  (no, it wasn't a *serious* proposal, for anyone
who's still unsure...we've been friends since she was born, it just
couldn't go that way.  but i still miss her lots and i'm glad amy and
emily made me remember this.  it's good to miss people sometimes, you
remember how important they are to you.)

thanks for letting me share.  thanks to all the reviewers for sharing.

love and cloudy quiet dawn skies,
audrey


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(still groggy.....)

hey y'all....

just a few thoughts on unh...no re-hashing, just new info....

first of all, you did a great job kirsten on the review...you just missed
one lil' tiny bit of info...amy told everyone that ig would be at great
woods this summer on june 6th ("we know!  we know!  section 3 baby")...and
then said (paraphrasing) "...and we're gonna be taping a pay-per-view show
that day....they said 'you have 3 hours...do whatever you want!'"

yay!  we're the pay-per-view venue!  let's hope there's lots of cameras
scanning the audience so that we'll all be in the show!  oh ma gawd...
what'll i wear? (kiddin'...girly girl jokin'...)

to answer kirsten's question, margaret clayton is the keeper of the
boot..although i had the equipment (yes, k8, the recording equipment), i was
otherwise preoccupied and not totally prepared (was a last minute decision
to do it...) and did not hit the right buttons....oh well....don't think it
would've been a clean copy tho with sus yelling "i love this song" and
coughing...and jokin' and laughing with k8....bad grrrls when i'm supposedly
taping....

it was great seeing everyone...i really didn't think i'd find a single soul
i knew in that see of people, but i was wrong...

random thought:  is is just me, or did emily look different than usual last
nite?  her hair is definately longer, but from row j, she looked like she
had some noticable eye makeup on...kinda femme, and looking good in
black....am i crazy?  (don't answer that k8...)

lastly, as soon as i got home, i fell dead asleep (tough day
yesterday)...kudos to kirsten and my sus for staying up and doing
reviews.....hey, that rhymes....i'm a poet and i didn't even know it...

truly, it was a great nite..great show, great friends, and sus put it best
when she said: "the highlight of my night was sharing two chairs with two of
the loveliest ladies in new england..."  ditto, m'dear....  ;o)

have a good one y'all!
joni :o)

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subject:      nigc: michelle shocked newport

fortunate ones ....

i've been offline for about a week now (not that anyone noticed :)   and just
wanted to let everyone know that the final boot in my series of newport stuff
is now ready ...

the michelle shocked set from 8/11/96 ....

if anyones interested in getting a copy, please e-mail me privately after
tuesday !!!!!

i won't really be back until tuesday night, so i'll need to catch up on all
my mail ... i won't be acknowleding requests/questions until then ...

and a belated 33rd to amy ... although i did celebrate it last night
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris #????

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subject:      oh meeee oh my! tshirt

--- kirsten wrote:
but my friend took one look at the t-shirt and said that he wo=
uld
never, under any possible circumstances, wear a shirt like "*that*". i ca=
n't
imagine why! ;-)
--- end of quoted material ---

for any preverts interested...

the shirt is black and says "indigo girls" on it and then had a picture of a
*lovely* buck naked lass frolicking amongst some bears/deer (?) in the woods.

not frolicking amongst. you know what i mean...standing near

anyway, be still my heeeeaaaart!
i'd say it was pg-13 for all of you "concerned folks"

xox, sus

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subject:      au concert goers

hey everybody...

got my tix for wolftrap this morning.... woo-hoo !!!!!!  anyways.  i was
wondering for all those going to au next weekend, y'all know what time you
are thinking about going ??? maybe we could all stand in line together or
sumthin (one of those wonderful general admission shows) ??? this is getting
exciting, (besides that little private party) they haven't been to the dc
area since 12/94...now they will be here 3 times in one month...life is
good...  i'll stop rambling now...

only 1 week left : )
peace
sasha

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in response to lisa's post about baseball caps....yes, they have
offered at least one style baseball cap, because i have one and wear
it all the time....i got it during the rop tour....it's black with a
blue "ig" on the front, and "indigo girls" written in script on the
back....they can be ordered from the fan club if you get the
newsletter.......

forever indigo,
cathy

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hkf!

        my ig bud, the "now-legendary" chasity petit needs a single ticket
to chastain park (atlanta) ig show on friday, may 23rd.  i saw someone post
last week that they had a friday ticket, but needed to sell it b/c they had
to work.  (i wish i could remember who it was???)
        amyray, if anyone has an extra ticket, please let us know.  chasity
is staying with me and can be reached at my email address.

        we are fortunate ones, i swear! :)

love and all things indigo~
tony

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subject:      wolf trap tix, au show, and loop 7--where are you??

yeah!!!  i got my tix this a.m. also to the wolf trap shows--both of them.  i
got there about 8 a.m., and there were about 20 people in front of me.  i
just couldn't get out of bed any earlier...  anyway, i didn't fare too badly,
so i'm not complaining.  this show at american university is going to kill
me, seeing as i live so close an' all.  but i'll get over it...

so, my question is this....  what happened to loop 7????!!!!!!!!   i received
that first tape, mailed it on at the appropriate time, and that was
it...nothing since.  hmmmm.

well, hope everyone's been having a great week-end.  it just flew for me;
wish it were longer... :(  two more mondays till the end of the semester!!!
rock n roll!

court

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who are the girls influenced by?

-- samantha :)

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> --- kirsten wrote:
> but my friend took one look at the t-shirt and said that he would
> never, under any possible circumstances, wear a shirt like "*that*". > i can't imagine why! ;-)
>
--- sus wrote:
> for any preverts interested...
> the shirt is black and says "indigo girls" on it and then had a
> picture of a *lovely* buck naked lass frolicking amongst some
> bears/deer (?) in the woods.
> not frolicking amongst. you know what i mean...standing near
> anyway, be still my heeeeaaaart!
> i'd say it was pg-13 for all of you "concerned folks"


if  y'all had taken a closer look at that shirt, you would have seen
that is not a naked woman on the t-shirt.  it's a mannequin, fer gosh
sakes, and her moveable joints are clearly visible!  i plan to wear this
shirt proudly, and if someone makes an ignorant comment, i can say,
"look you prevert, it's a mannequin!  gotta problem with that? only the
buck is naked!"  fyi, the shirt shows some trees, a buck in front of the
trees, and a mannequin standing on a log in front of the buck.
definitely g rated.

peace,
fran e.

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hi y'all!  i hate to be totally anal, but i have to be.  if i see
"everything in it's own time" posted like this one more time i will post
my scream to the list.
it's is not possessive.  it's=it is, which makes absolutely no sense in
this context. so for the record, unless emily is making some sort of
statement i don't understand about functional illiteracy, the song title
should be
everything in its own time.
okay???

not to mention the lilith-with-only-two-ls-total fair controversy.  that
is, it's not lillith but lilith.  please, oh please, don't torture this
rhetoric teacher anymore; i have to read these kinds of mistakes every day
as i comment on papers and i don't want to read them on my precious list.


thank you for listening.  now i will go back to being swamped with work
and snow.
your testy but ever-lovin'
suzi

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after e-mailing the radio station many times, finally heard soy on a
local station in salt lake--107.5 the end. i only listen to the radio in
my car and since i'm usually working, it was just a chance moment as i
drove to the gym yesterday morning. i had just turned on the radio and
was debating between listening to my japanese oldies or the radio when
the dj announced the next song song as a new release from the indigo
girls. decided against japanese for the moment and enjoyed the song.

have to say-- i love the banjo. love the song and now need to hear it
more often.

starting a serious write-in and call-in movement. hoping against hope
that they will make it to the salt lake area. i have been a fan for a
long time andhave been out of the country every time they came to utah.
now i am back and hope that they come this year. if anyone has an inside
scoop, please share.

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hi everyone! i had a most bitchin' time at my first ani concert last night!
i know it wasn't ig, but believe me, i'll settle for ani *anyday*!

kira, dwayne, leah, alicia i'm sorry i wasn't able to find you at the show.
quite honestly, without meeting before hand i don't know how we would have
managed to find anyone in that crowd!

to the very cool guy in the list shirt i met waiting in line: i'm sorry i
didn't get your full name or e-mail addy, if you'd like to keep in touch
please e-mail me :)

my friends and i (after waiting in line 4 hours) managed to score standing
spots literally less than 20 feet from ani, definitely less than 10 feet
from the stage! she is beyond incredible live, and to anybody who is
debating seeing her live, do it, do it do it!

after the show, my friends and i were stuck waiting for rides for a while,
but as the place cleared out completely and they were hauling out all of the
instruments and equipment to load on to the truck, i started talking to this
really cool guy who seemed to be with the show. as our conversation went on,
i found out he's andrew, ani's tour manager! :) so that's like, one degree
of separation, right?

ok, so i'm winding up this post, but i wanted to mention that the most
valuable thing i think i got out of this show was realizing that ani is just
a person like all of us. sometimes we find ourselves so obsessed with
performers, that we put them up on this god(ess) type pedestal, and forget
that they're just ordinary folks with incredible talent. so, that's the
insight that i gained, and i think it was most definitely worth it!

:) abigail


"because, miss lank, you are worth ripping up a book for"

                   ~herb cummins, world class teacher

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thanks for everyone who answerd my cortez question!  greatly appreciated . .
. =)

-elizabeth

* * * * * * * * * * * *
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http://members.aol.com/wishmonstr/ewebpg.htm

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:
>last night i was over at my surregutt(sp?) parents house :) (hi shelley and
hal)
>and we were watching "the 3 musketeers"  the movie with keefer sutherland
etc...
>anyway....who has seen this movie?  does the prince/king/whatever, of france
>not look just like amyray.  this is a frontal view.....his profile shows his
>big nose and well....then he doesn't look like amy...but if you feel
>compelled to make me feel normal :) rent this movie...tell me im not
>crazy...shelley and hal agreed but they stared at me like i was nuts.
>anyway  the end
>megan boyer
>bonanza jellybean rides again
>
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hey, y'all.

        ok...  am i the only one who has yet to hear "shame on you" on the
radio?  i'm in the albany area and we have a few radio stations which i
concider to be very progressive (they play paula cole and no ig?).  so, am
i just listening at the wrong times?  i haven't heard "shame on you" since
newport and would love to hear how it's changed (banjos and all).

                just curious,

                        sarah :-)

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subject:      waiting in line at wheaton

morning,

i've never been to a ga show before, so i'm probably not the best one to
organize this, but are there any plans for line waiting at wheaton?  i go to
school about 15 minutes from there, but need to be in class from 9:30 to
3:00.  i could wait prior to 9:30 (is this necessary?) or after three, and
could also periodically run supplies -- blankets, dry clothes, sun tan oil,
water, food, etc. -- in the breaks between classes.

let me know what folks think.

thanks, kevin s. minoli, kevsmin@aol.com

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subject:      my abridged unh

others provided a great overview, so here is my take.

1. i had cool seats, which was lucky, becuase we waited a really long time
after they went on sale to buy them.  we were directly to the right of the
stage, about halfway up,  which provided me with an endless supply of great
amy views.  every time she looked/pulled away from the microphone, she was
looking directly into my section.  it was also great to see lift run off
stage after their set and hug each other continuously for about five minutes.
they had tremendous energy and were so excieted to play --  my favoprite
quote of the night came from them, "umm, would it make you like us any less
if we told you this was the biggest crowd we ever played in front of?"  so
the moral of the story is if you can get front rom, try for the direct side.

2. chickenman, it took the luck of concert #7 for my to finnally hear this...
what am i going to wish for at wheaton?

3. amy's animation.  i don't know if this had something to do with her
birthday, but she was a footstompin' fool! (another great thing to watch from
the side)

4. shed your skin.  i had never heard it before, but this quasi hip-hop (amy
appeared to do the ig version of the gangsta dance) song really excited me.

5. broken strings.  never seen one before, so i was happy, although amy
seemed a little upset that she held the guitar out to be replaced for what
seemed to be an eternity, but poor sulli and the balding guitar man were
working so hard, they never saw it.  amy eventually played it again, but then
at the end of the song laid it down on the ground, rather than the
traditional hand off....  did emily break a banjo string, or was that a
natural mid-song switch?

6. the "it's not fun to be up here alone" line in chiapas, were emily
meanders onstage from the side and plays guitar for a few bars, standing
slightly behind/beside amy.  made me long for me best friend.

ok, that is enough....

about the list gathering, i was there, but i was hiding.  a little shy...
can't quite seem to figure out what to say first.  i ate at a booth
diagonally across the room from y'all, with my list shirt conveniently hid by
my flannel, and i think we may have made eye contact a few times...  i'll try
and be brave at wheaton.

thanks, kevin

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subject:      tour dates...

i was asked to post the following ig
dates:

4/13 waterville me, colby college
4/15 university park pa, penn st.
4/16 norton ma, wheaton college
4/19 philadelphia, pa lasalle
4/20 washington d.c., american u
4/25 auburn al, auburn u

5/23 atlanta ga, chastain park
5/24  "    "
5/27 richmond va, classic ampitheatre
5/28 vienna va, wolf trap
5/29  "    "
5/30 philadelphia pa mann music center
5/31 hartford ct, meadows theatre

6/05 holmdel nj, pnc arts center
6/06 mansfield ma, great woods
6/07 saratoga springs ny, saratoga arts center
6/10 canandaigua ny, tba
6/12 cuyahoga falls oh, blossom center
6/13 kettering oh, faze pavilion
6/14 clarkston mi, pine knob theatre

7/01 san diego ca, hospitality point
7/02 los angeles ca, greek theatre

in addition to the above dates, they have scheduled a
show at mountain view outside san francisco, but they want
to change the venue.  they claim it's too large!  also, the
june 6th show at great woods may be a pay-per-view tv
special.  keep an eye out for that!!

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subject:      re: musings from the ice arena (igc)

just had to add my own two cents from last night's show at unh.

i've been to lots of ig shows over the years, but this one seemed to be truly
a big love fest with the igs.  having been to my first show in 1991 where the
crowd had no idea who they were, it's neat to fast-forward to1997 where
everybody knows all the words by heart.  the crowd was really up and singing
along so beautifully to every song.  whoever posted recently that sing-alongs
make you cry, this show would have killed you!  amy and emily dropped out
many times to let the crowd seranade them and it was really fun.

i usually have seats down on the floor but my husband didn't get to the unh
box office early enough the day they went on sale (grrrr - where are his
priorities in life?).  we were sitting up on the side nearest amy and
actually had excellent sight lines.  we brought high-power binoculars and
watched parts of the show that way, which was pretty cool.  amy goes through
so many different expressions as she plays ... when she's intense, she's
*really* intense, and when she's happy, her whole face lights up.  she is
great to watch.

fashion comments:  like the "e" shirt of emily's and loved amy's red jeans.
through my binoculars, em didn't look at all made up to me.  like amy's
longer hair length, too.

lift:  liked them a lot, better than other openers we've endured for the
girls.
they added a lot of punch to the encores, esp. tried to be true and bmhawk.

crowd comments: good singing, y'all!  also had fun picking out people in the
audience who were older than we are ... there were plenty this time.  (okay,
i'm 37, not ancient, but i've felt pretty old at some of the other college
shows.)

venue:  beats the cheesy hampton beach casino in my book!  reserved seats, no
smoking, and no rude people talking through the entire show ... everybody
around us was totally into the girls.

girls and guitars:  i was really happy to have just a&e and their
instruments.  band shows have been fun where they can really rock out, but i
think just the girls together is a totally blissful experience.

back to lurking in new hamsphire --

heidi

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well...the =) is that i have tickets!!!

the =( is that there were 2nd row seats available but i couldn't
afford them....(you know htat poor college student thing) so i have
lawn seats.

anyone else with lawn seats is welcome to sit with me and my
fiance...he is just beginning hte indigo journey so go easy on
him...lol...

and wherever y'all decide to eat is cool with me just let me know. as
of right now i am jobless for hte summer but hopefully i will have a
job i can get off in time ot go to kettering and eat...

ps..if anyone has an in for a job in the criminal justice field in the
cincinnati/dayton general area let me know i really need a
job....thanks ;)

kel
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if you don't make dust, you eat it.
when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
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subject:      extra ticket!

i have an extra ticket to wheaton. any takers?

-liz-

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a moment of panic this morning when i thought i had lost every single one
of my ig cds again! (the first time was when my entire cd collection was
stolen a year ago.)  this time, i temporarily misplaced my 12 cd carrying
case which at that moment contained:  all 8 commercial ig disks
(including both disks of 1200 curfews and sans sots) as well as mm's
relentless and redemption dream and ani's dilate.  fortunately, it was
just under a pile of clothes.  but i was scared for a few minutes.  i
really just don't have the money to go buy every single ig disk for a
third time.  also, relentless isn't in print anymore and it's grown on my
immensely so i'd miss it.

  on to other things.  someone had posed a quiestion to the effect of
what book would you most recommend to a&e.  (there was also some
superhero q in there but i don't really have any thoughts on that one at
the moment.)  i think i pretty much answered this a while back in
response to the elevator question but i'll say it again cause i don't
feel like studying.
   the book i'd go with is leslie marmon silko's "storyteller."  in all
honesty, it's not something that inspired me in any collossal way,
changed my life or any of that.  but there are little bits of insight to
be gleaned from it and it is certainly both interesting and entertaining
and has a sort of refreshing perspective on life that i think a&e would
both enjoy.  my guess is even more than i did but what the hell do i know?

   anyway, i was thinking about this book question and glancing aimlessly
around my room when my eye caught my copy of zen and the art of
motorcycle maintenance.  (it's lavender, it sort of stands out)  then i
started thinking that might be a good one to recoomend to amy.  (though
i'm under the impression (from interviews?) that both the girls are
readers and it's not a perticularly obscure book so there's a good chance
she's read it.)  the whole road setting of it just made me think of
chickenman and i was thinking that roadkill must be a whole 'nother thing
when viewed from a motorcycle as opposed to a completely enclosed car or van.

so then i remembered that i had heard or read somewhere that the author,
robert pirsig had consulted with robert redford about possibly making a
film version of zen and the art...  as far as i know it never happened
probably because it would have been a real difficult thing to translate
to film since there's not much action, just thought.  however, the reason
pirsig had considered it was because, at the time, redford had just very
successfully pulled off a similarly difficult book to film endeavor with
the film ____________.


and this is my question to all you helpful people.  i can't remember the
name of the film (or the book with the same title.)  both were wonderful
and it's really annoying me now.  it's about a family (primarily the
younger son) coping in the aftermath of the older son's death.  he
drowned in a boating acident despite having beena competetive swimmer.
the younger son atempts suicide since he's feeling so guilty about having
been the one who survived, etc., etc.  i believe donald sutherland played
the father.  and the kid's shrink was played by, oh shoot, now i've
forgotten that too.  the guy from taxi, dear john, and a million other
things.  oh shoot what's his name?  (i realize i've now said, "you know,
that movie, based on that book, with that guy in it.")

so if anyone knows the name redford directed film or the book (and the
book's author) and/or the name of the actor i just blanked on, i'd
appreciate it if you'd tell me as it really is driving me nuts.


           -colleen

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hey y'all!
this is for those of you who *like* to analyze and who have the time!

on strange fire in amy's song "walk away," there are lines that go "if
there's nothing to lose / then there's nothing to gain."

i don't know if i'm totally missing something, or if my neurons are all
blown away, but could someone enlighten me? i would think that amy is
talking about a no win situation, but even that doesn't make the lines
really click for me. well, anyone?  if anyone knows the song's background,
it might help, too.

;-s
erin
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date:         sun, 13 apr 1997 14:49:09 -0400
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on sun, 13 apr 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

> (still groggy.....)

ditto, at 2:30 pm.... ugh....

> then said (paraphrasing) "...and we're gonna be taping a pay-per-view show
> that day....they said 'you have 3 hours...do whatever you want!'"

i might add, that imo, amy seemed a leetle embassased as she forced her
self to mouth the words "pay-per-view".... seemed a bit tough for her to
stomach that one....

> emily look different than usual last nite?  her hair is definately longer,
> on...kinda femme, and looking good in black....am i crazy?  (don't
> answer that k8...)

sorry.  were we sitting in the same row, joni hunny?  (yes, i know, we
were sitting in the same seat!)  um, how to put this: the only one i can
safely answer w/o getting flammed is that yes, indeed, her hair was
longer.

> truly, it was a great nite..great show, great friends, and sus put it best
> when she said: "the highlight of my night was sharing two chairs with two
of the loveliest ladies in new england...."

i'll third this, despite the marriage proposal, which bugged the s#@! out
of me (kirsten fyi: this was not the first time this has happenend at an
ig show) and should anyone out there ever get the chance to sit on joni or
susan's lap, i'd highly recommend it... just watch their hands at all
times....

k8                            o
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the name of the movie is ordinary people...
1980's oscar winner for best picture..

tammy ~~new to the list~~   :)


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i called pro tix this afternoon to order tickets for one of the wolf
trap concerts, and i couldn't get them because they don't take
discover!  i don't know how i'm going to get tickets 'cause they
don't have anyplaces near me that i can go buy them, not that i have
a vehicle right now to do that in.  grrr.....

sorry, just had to vent...

anna

"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


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> if  y'all had taken a closer look at that shirt, you would have seen
> that is not a naked woman on the t-shirt.  it's a mannequin, fer gosh
> sakes, and her moveable joints are clearly visible!  i plan to wear this
> shirt proudly, and if someone makes an ignorant comment, i can say,
> "look you prevert, it's a mannequin!  gotta problem with that? only the
> buck is naked!"  fyi, the shirt shows some trees, a buck in front of the
> trees, and a mannequin standing on a log in front of the buck.
> definitely g rated.

actually, not only is it a mannequin, but the mannequin even has little
panties on if ya look real close (not that i was lookin' close ;) ;) so
not only is it not a buck naked woman, and not only is it not really a
woman, but it's not even naked!! (oh, and did anyone else _just_get_ the
"buck" in the "buck-naked" joke, and wonder if that's what the shirt means?)

off to tell the religious right _who's_driving_ around here!!!!
lorindigo
ps. when i get together a list of appropriate addresses for writing to
the "right" i'll post them so beware!!

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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oh ya, and just so you don't drive yourself to crazy...the shrink was played by
judd hirsh.

tammy ~i watch too many movies~ m.


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hey there. i am new to this group, but i read the ng all the time, and
really have been lsitening to the girls since 87. anyway, i was just
wondering if anyone has a copy of "color me grey," or if they know where i
could get my hands on it.

thanks-
sari

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if you live near a hastings music/video/book store run dont walk....

they have order forms through their muze computer to get the limited edition
sots cd for 15.99 on april 25!!!!!!!

april 25!!!

run run run run run

isn't that fun? :)

ok bye :)
megan boyer

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ummm.... *boggle* i don't know if this is total bs or what. anyone "in the
know" know? charmaine is referring to the limited edition of shaming of the
sun (which curiously enough is called "shaming the sun" -- no "of" in the
title -- on both the music blvd and cdnow web sites. the non-limited
edition has the "of" in the title. i *think* this is just a typo from the
source they both got the info from. personally i think the limited edition
just means it has a cardboard case and not the plastic jewel case).

anyway, i received this from music blvd today:

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          thank you for your interest in music boulevard.

          at present, we really don't have too much information
          available about this new release. however, as the release
          day approach more information will become available.
          regarding longer version, the songs on the album are runs a
          little longer, more instrumentation at the end or in front
          of the lyrics.

          if you have any further questions, please contact us.

          sincerely,

          charmaine
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          1-800-99music or 610-293-4793
          610-293-3256 (fax)
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hey everybody!

i'm back in town after a semi-traumatic trip to oklahoma city (car broke
down, oklahoma people are sooo nice!!)  anywho, i just wanted to send a
huge hug, big slobbery kiss, and giant thank you out to everyone on the
list 'cause y'all are so cool, we raised $2500 for honor the
earth!!!!!!!!

okay, i've been thinking for a while about emily's b'day and i need some
help from y'all.  i was thinking that we might want to choose a
different organization for em's b'day, so if any of you have an idea
email me with the name of the organization and a brief description of it
and i will make a list of them and post to the list and then run a vote
on which organization to do, sound good?  (this is not throwing out the
idea of another hte donation, i think that would be great, i just wanted
to see if there are other organizations y'all would want to support)
please send me those messages by next monday, april 21st and i'll try to
post the list of organizations to the list sometime that week.

also, tony (da chickenman) has just informed me that the pictures we
took at the "presentation" are back and look great, so what i'm going to
try to do is set up a webpage with the pics so everybody can see em!!!
i'll let everybody know when it's up.

love ya,
mandingo

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hello kittens!

we are looking for the following - two good tickets for each of the following shows:

6-13-1997 kettering, oh fraze pavilion for the performing arts, stadium
6-14-1997 clarkston, mi new pine knob music theater

we can get pavilion tickets at clarkston, but we want really good tickets if we're going to drive from atlanta, so if anyone knows anyone that has, oh, say orchestra or floor seats, for these shows, please let us know. in other words, up front! we are willing to pay for time and effort here :) and we might be able to provide chastain park opening night tickets.

so please let us know, private e-mail, etc.

also, if anyone has a phone number for the kettering show, we'd appreciate it.

thanks, peace, and indigo road trips
susan and jocelyn

" me and jesus, we're of the same heart. the only thing that
keeps us distant is that i keep fucking up." - amy ray

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hi all,

kinda similar to the ellen history-in-the-making issue --

the women's nba (pro basketball) tips off june 21 on
nbc.  you go, girls!

lisa

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i think it's a bit premature to stand in line at 9 am for a show that
begins at 8 pm... most wheaton students are in class during the day and
although we discussed standing in line, we decided that forming a line any
time before 5 pm would be utterly pointless and ridiculous... there are no
seats for the show so pushing up towards the stage shouldn't be too hard
if you are *that* anxious to be up close... anyway, that was my $0.02
worth...

britt

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>and this is my question to all you helpful people.  i can't remember the
>name of the film (or the book with the same title.)  both were wonderful
>and it's really annoying me now.

this is for colleen and everyone else who suffers when they can't remember
movie titles or "who played the mom in that one movie." go to the internet
movie database. punch in the name of the director or a couple keywords in
the title or the last name of an actress you remember being in the movie.
for example if you put in robert redford's name you'll see a list of all
the movies he acted in and directed. if you put his name in the "director"
category then you'd just see the movies he directed. you can search just
using the name of a character. i have used this source a zillion times to
find movies i want to rent from the video store and to satisfy my
curiosity. if you see a movie with an actress you like but have never seen
before this will show you all the other movies she has been in. you just
won't believe how exhaustive the infomation is until you actually try it
out.

ooh here's the igc: if you search for amy ray or emily saliers guess what
movie you'll find? heehee. yeah it really is that thorough. you can even
search using the name of a crew member.

the url is http://www.imdb.com

kristina

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"if there's nothing to lose/then there's nothing to gain"

i think this song is about taking a risk and emotional investments.  if you
don't invest a lot in a relationship, you aren't likely to get much out of
it.  granted, you wouldn't lose much, but which is more important?  okay, so
that's my interp.  think i've posted a little too much today, yes?

court

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i've found myself with a ticket to ani in new haven on friday, and was
just wondering if anyone knew anything about the venue (i don't even know
what the place is called), how to get to the place off the merit pkwy,
and if anyone's going...my seat is in the second section of the orchestra
(doesn't compare to being smooshed up against the stage like i was at
port chester, but hey, what the hell...my friend is sitting closer to the
stage, so if you're there and you see a guy, shaved head, little silver
earing, not much over 5'6" and very skinny standing around looking like
he needs someone to chat with, say hey...

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hey, everyone.  i've been on the list for a few days, and i am wondering
what people thought about the unh show, what happened with the book, and
what happened with the other birthday stuff.  will some kind soul out
there please email me privately with this info?  i had asked some people
to keep me updated, but it didn't happen.

toodleloo,
margaret

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        no, you're not the only one. i live in kingston, ontario. i figure
        the only station i'm likely to hear it on is the queen's university
        station, but no luck yet. i'll probably get the cd before any
        station here does. anyone else from canada heard soy on the radio?

        --robin


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    author:  sofarrel@scott.skidmore.edu at nrg
    date:    4/12/97 12:13 pm

          hey, y'all.

                ok...  am i the only one who has yet to hear "shame on you"
          on the radio?  i'm in the albany area and we have a few radio
          stations which i concider to be very progressive (they play paula
          cole and no ig?).  so, am i just listening at the wrong times?  i
          haven't heard "shame on you" since newport and would love to hear
          how it's changed (banjos and all).

                      just curious,

                           sarah :-)

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okay...i guess this means that we know no one who recorded the tulsa show, right?  *sigh*  i just thought of something funny the girls behind me said...thought i'd share.

girl 1:  "emily is a goddess!!!!!!"

big pause

girl 2:  "amy is a god!!!!!"

i had to laugh. = o

jennifer w.

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we have a dat boot of the show.  it is quiet, but decent quality considering
the venue.  kirsten says she will give her firstborn for a boot of it.
maybe she would be willing to set up a tape tree?  i really don't have the
time or energy to do so, but it was a pretty good show (at least, all but
ass people next to us, who were drunk and wanted to be at a rock concert or
something).  be forewarned that my gf decided to mess up gotm by needing to
check the dat levels in the middle of the song and, in doing so, unzipping
and rezipping her backpack, but it isn't an irreparable error.  i love her
anyway.

deirdre

a woman goes on trial every day
for living in a man's world
no one feels any sorrow anyway
for a running girl
          -nathan bell, poet, musician, friend, teacher

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i'm in sarnia, ontario...and have yet to hear it.  i've been emailing the
stations in port huron, mi and in sarnia, hoping that i annoy them so much,
they'll play it, just to get me off their back.

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you ask
>so, why the problem now?
>is it because ellen is a woman? is it because she is the lead character?
i think it is because the religious right has become more organized and
powerful over the last few years. they are the most dangerous foes of
individual liberty and tolerance in society today, and unfortunately
their influence is still gaining. bigotry masquerading as "family
values". they have succeeded in radicalizing me, like nothing else has.
like the bumper sticker i saw..."doing my part to piss off the religious
right."
audrey made an interesting point a few days ago when she admitted
(paraphrasing) she had raised the "family values" issue on the list
because the discussion of indigonads made her uncomfortable. not picking
on you audrey:), you had the insight to figure it out. something that
falwell and his ilk sadly lack. their discomfort with same-sex affection
says a hell of a lot more about them and their unresolved conflicts than
it does about gay behavior. but they'll hide behind a moral smoke screen
on their bully pulpits,and lobby to keep us from doing what comes
naturally (for us). ellen will be just as innocuous after she comes out
as she is now. some threat!

keep the concert reviews coming

just my take

marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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here's the thing...i used to get the newsletter, and now i haven't gotten one in a really long time.  i haven't moved, or anything else...anyone know how i can get that worked out so that i'm getting it again???  help me!!!!  *smile* thanks.

jennifer w

*who has posted enough for one day, but it's because she had about 2 days' worth of posts to go through...in an hour*

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disclaimer:
this post is merely a rant, really...it's not aimed at anyone on this list...but i think you'd be able to tell it's not.  it's a tirade on censorship and the attempts to legislate morality by the ultra-conservatives.  you've been warned.  = )

here's the thing...(wow, do i say that enough???)...i don't understand why people think that it is their job to tell us how to live our lives.  to tell us how we should or should not live.  to tell us what we should say, think, feel, read, watch, hear, or do.  if you don't like what's on television...change the channel or turn it off!!!  don't be so egocentric as to think that if you don't like it, it must be wrong.  so long as no one is getting hurt, and people are being respected for people, there is nothing wrong about it.  if you are concerned with whether your children are going to see something you don't want them to, then watch what they're watching...don't just send them off to the television without your supervision...for god's sake, you're raising a human being here...not growing plants.  be involved.  talk to them...teach them.  don't just leave them to figure it all out themselves...the television can teach, but it doesn't always.  the same with books, radio, people.  take the responsibility that is yours...and leave others to decide what is right for them.  is that really so hard?????  wow...i just don't get it.  this is a country of "freedom".  this is a country of diversity.  what ever would possess you to think that you could legislate one specific set of beliefs and ideals, and have it work?  it just doesn't happen.  live and let live...tend to your garden.  leave other people alone.  for that matter, the bible says that you should remove the log from your own eye before you seek to point out the splinter in your neighbor's.  start with yourself.  *sigh*

okay...sorry to take up space...i had to get it out.  forgive me??  = )

jennifer w.

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lorindigo writes:
>
>actually, not only is it a mannequin, but the mannequin even has
>little panties on if ya look real close (not that i was lookin' close
>;) ;) so not only is it not a buck naked woman, and not only is it not
>really a woman, but it's not even naked!!

in reality, the mannequin is naked!  they're not panties, they're the
lines from the mannequin's leg and hip joints.

peace and indigo dreams,
fran e.

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subject:      re: unh show & all who have seen shows this year

i just got my newsletter from the fan club (probably because i *just* joined
- its the one from last nov.) and i noticed in the pics amy's hair is getting
longer.  is she keeping it long or has she cut it all off again?  i like amy
with long hair  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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on 04-13-97 samantha writes:
>>who are the girls influenced by?<<

who/what *aren't* they influenced by?  i sense an influence of life & joy &
happiness in most of em's music & a lot of repressed anger in amy's - maybe
that's why i identify with amy's music more than em's???  (no flames i said i
identify better, not that i like better.  i like them both equally the same)

peace, harmony & indigo,

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hi folks,
>
> okay, i've been thinking for a while about emily's b'day and i need some
> help from y'all.  i was thinking that we might want to choose a
> different organization for em's b'day, so if any of you have an idea
> email me with the name of the organization and a brief description of it
> and i will make a list of them and post to the list and then run a vote
> on which organization to do, sound good?  (this is not throwing out the

oooh! oooh! i was going to suggest this same thing, but i think the trick
should be to try to figure out what _emily_ would want, not what _we_
would want. hte was clearly a good choice for amy, and may also be for
emily, but what i'd like to see is for someone who may have a better idea
of what emily would want to write either privately or publicly to suggest
an organization to donate to. i personally don't know what to suggest,
but maybe someone else out there does.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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tips on standing in line to get into a ga show.
i did it twice last summer at relatively small, but public venues in ny
and philly. i arrived between 12 and 1:00 and was 5th in line both times.
got front row just fine, so that's a good time frame to shoot for.
(oh, they were 8:00 shows too.)

folkisgruven,
lorindigo

still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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anyone know if nanci griffith is on the new album (if so, what track/s)?

thanks.
               o                    "if wishes were changes,
k8         #==[o)                     there'd be no goodbyes..."
              /<                                         n.g.

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in a message dated 97-04-13 15:42:05 edt, someone in need of enlightenment
wrote:

<< "if there's nothing to lose / then there's nothing to gain." >>

i personally think it means that if there's no risk involved, then what's the
point?  take relationships for example.  if there's no risk (i.e. getting
your heart splattered all over the place), then the ultimate gain of finding
your soulmate pales considerably.

(p.s.  for those of you out there who don't already know this, i found
mine...we're getting married june 13 :)

okay, enough from me....i go away now

dawn

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>
> we have a dat boot of the show.  it is quiet, but decent quality considering
> the venue.  kirsten says she will give her firstborn for a boot of it.
> maybe she would be willing to set up a tape tree?  i really don't have the
yes yes yes by all means. i'll send you a blank or we can trade, whichever
would suit you better.

any branch volunteers out there? i'll take the first person from each zodiac
sign who emails me about it, and start coordinating things as soon as i have
my copy of the boot.

kirsten, tingling at the very thought


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ok  i have enough people who are willing to be branches of a tape tree for
the following 60 min tape containing these 2 shows:

1) study hall 1981 - this is (i believe) the first ever recorded session
from study hall, ap english, mr. lloyd's class, shamrock high school,
decatur georgia, november 1981.
set list: it's too late, her town too, back together again, tuesday's
children, a heart in new york, wysteria, you've got a friend (cut)

2) madison square garden, ny city, april 10, 1989 - ig opening for rem on
their green world tour.  added bonus - michael stipe comes out and sings
with them.
set list: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, prince of
darkness, land of canaan, kid fears (with michael stipe), american tune

i've even added 2 bonus tracks for fellow ig/rem fans:
summertime (with m.stipe 4/22/90 lisner auditorium wash.d.c.)
hairshirt (with m. stipe 4/24/90 beacon theater ny city) (the full song
didn't fit though)

this requires one 60 min tape in a sase (self addressed stamped envelope).
please email your branch of the zodiac below and they will give you their
address and any other info to send your sase (or trade if they so wish).
now please note that these guys/gals are in the process of sending me
blanks, then i have to tape them and send them back to them, so when you
email these branches, understand that it might take a couple of weeks to
eventually get your boot.

hope everyone enjoys it!
lori

aries - veronica (simply v)     vjt8118@is4.nyu.edu
taurus - pj    pjhoopie@aol.com
gemini - anna (chickensoprano)   creechal@aslan.emu.edu
cancer - mellie     mellie2@aol.com
leo - bon    bonster@bp05.u.washington.edu
virgo - mike    mpaluzzi@spatial.maine.edu
libra - kelly   kfairbairn@pyrite.stonehill.edu
scorpio - tracy    salray@webtv.net
sagittarius - marta   mchaffee@oxy.edu
capricorn - pj  paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil
aquarius - tigger    emilyamy@aol.com
pisces - david    dhanson@mailclerk.ecok.edu

uk - ?
australia - ?
canada - i can do it myself but i've had bad luck with the canadian mail and
niagara falls (sorry elizabeth).  if someone can do it let me know,
otherwise it will have to be mail at your own risk.  lorbrink@iaw.com


"this is now, this is here, this is me, this is what i wanted you to see."
                                            rem

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hey y'all
   i am about bursting because the ig are actually coming within two hours of
my home.....i was wondering if anyone else is  going to the kettering show
(6/13), knows where fraze pavilion is, when tickets go on sale
(ticketmaster?) etc.  just e-mail me personally if y'all know anything...
thanks,
lauren

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does anyone know anything about this show?  as in, ticket info, venue
info, etc?

thanks!
anna

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at 02:49 pm 4/13/97 -0400, me and katherine grant wrote (wicked bad english):

>> emily look different than usual last nite?  her hair is definately longer,
>> on...kinda femme, and looking good in black....am i crazy?  (don't
>> answer that k8...)
>
>sorry.  were we sitting in the same row, joni hunny?  (yes, i know, we
>were sitting in the same seat!)  um, how to put this: the only one i can
>safely answer w/o getting flammed is that yes, indeed, her hair was
>longer.

well, she looked very dark to me.  maybe it was the clothes.  truth be told,
i didn't even recognize her as she walked behind amy when they were getting
up on stage....gotta check that contact prescription...

>and should anyone out there ever get the chance to sit on joni or
>susan's lap, i'd highly recommend it... just watch their hands at all
>times....

oh sheeet!  was that your ass i was grabbing!  sorry k8!  ;o)  (not bad, i
might add...)

<blush....only kiddin' hunny...i didn't really grab her....>

later,
joni :o)

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well said, jennifer, i don't think you left anything out.  i couldn't have
ranted it better myself  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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well, i said i was going to do it, and now i'm doing it. i did a brief
search for some relevent addresses for a letter writing/email campaign in
support of gay issues. i'm going to sit down and compose some letters as
soon as i'm finished with this post, and i urge folks out there to do the
same. this is an issue that many of us feel strongly about. considering
the fact that most of the letters these people will receive will be
anti-gay letters, i think it's that much more important that _we_ stand
up and make our voices heard. some of these addresses were posted before,
and i've attatched part of a post from a few days ago with some addresses
for chrysler, j&j, and gm. thank you to those of you who posted this info
before. sorry i don't have your names here. i'm just trying to collect
this all into one convenient little (sorta) post. if anyone has any other
info to add, please send it to me (or post it). i'm in an action-taking mood,
so let's take advantage of it. here we go:

1)jerry falwell- from his homepage for whatever whatever church in
wherever, virginia where he's the preacher, or whatever.
email:    mailto:info@trbc.org
when you get to the homepage you're almost immediately accosted by a link
where they state their position on homosexuality. open it up and you're
treated to a list of anti-gay biblical references. they equate
homosexuality with murder and adultery. fun stuff.
boo jerry falwell.

2)pat robertson- from the homepage of the 700 club.
email: webmaster@cbn.org
i didn't look around this page too much, but then, i didn't need to.
boo pat robertson.

3)walt disney- from a recent post about gay day at disney world. disney
has walked in some grey areas in the past, but right now they're sticking
their necks out with gay day at disney, and with the whole ellen thing.
they're going to get swamped with anti-gay letter writing campaigns.
let's turn the tide and show them our _support_.
write yay's to disney at:
michael eisner-chairman-walt disney co.
500 s. buena vista st.
burbank, ca 91521
fax: 1-818-560-1300 or 1-818-560-1930
(thanks to whoever posted this.)

4)chrysler, gm, and j&j. the addresses are attatched down there. *points
down*  i'm pretty sure american airlines is another one, and i don't
think i have that one. anyone? these are companies that refused to
sponser ellen, and have pointedly removed their sponsership from the
episode due to fear over the controversy. there's also a long list of
other 'boo's' attatched to chrysler that i won't go into.
(thanks to the poster for this one too)

5)home access health org. the address is also down there. *points again*
this is a company that _is_ sponsering ellen. yay them.

6)christian family network- also discussed down there. *pointing again*
they've been making it their business to target the ellen thing. boo boo
boo.

one last thing. in my initial yahoo search i typed in the term "family
values." i got a good giggle when the first two links were actually
les/bi/gay organizations. ha ha! several other links were various
christian organizations. i checked out a couple, and one made a big point
of _supporting_ gay issues. this was a christian organization by the name
of "call to action." so yay for them. :) and yay to _all_ the religious
(and other) organizations out there who have taken note of the fact that
gay people are _people_. just so you know i'm not lumping all
conservative organizations into one group. :)

i think that's all. c'mon people, let's give complacency a kick in the hiney.

folkisgruven,
lorindigo


still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

* * * *  action alert!   urge advertisers to make a particular point of
rejecting homophobia and supporting fair, accurate and diverse lgbt images on
television.  contact:   robert j. eaton, chair, chrysler corporation, 1000
chrysler dr., auburn hills, mi 48326, tel. 810-576-5741 or 800-992-1997; john
f. smith, chair, general motors corporation, 3044 w. grand blvd., detroit, mi
48202, tel. 313-556-5000, fax 313-556-1988; ralph s. larsen, chair, johnson &
johnson, one johnson & johnson plaza, new brunswick, nj 09833, tel.
908-524-0400 or 800-635-6789, fax 908-214-0332, web
http://www.jnj.com/feedback.htm; kevin johnson, home access health, hoffman
estates, il, tel. 847-781-2504, e-mail kj@homeaccess.com, web
http://www.homeaccess.com.


related (re)sources:  the "corporate watch" web site is a progressive project
for "monitoring the activities of transnational corporations; on-line
resources include current news, analysis, how-to guides, an image gallery,
and links to other sites.  contact:  http://www.corpwatch.org.

among the homophobic organizations targeting "ellen's" advertisers is the
christian family network (cfn), which has launched a national "ellen media
watch."  the campaign is rallying fundies across the nation, "monitoring the
program for local advertisers and taking steps to influence those advertisers
to spend their dollars in a responsible [sic] manner."  contact:  don
jackson, executive director, cfn, p. o. box 24171, dayton, oh 45424, tel.
937-236-5433, fax 937-236-5056, e-mail jacksondp@aol.com, web
http://www.cfn.web.com.

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subject:      anyone who has wav capability on computer read this!

i have in wav format a clip from gotm!!!!!!!!!  it's spectacular!!!!!!!!!!
anyone who wants it email me & i will send it to you, you'll love it!!!!!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

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first, sorry this is late, but i didn't want to brag and boast and make
anyone jealous or anything.  also, i had to go to my roomate's house
this whole weekend because i promised her a long time ago that i would
and i owe her 2 visits...so, i've been away from my computer since
friday morning.  i haven't read all of my 200 messages either before i'm
posting.  now that that is over with...

i morhped into extreme extrovert amber on thursday night!  my adrenaline
levels were waaaay up and i was all worked up over my friend locking her
keys in her car before the concert.  i began talking to everyone!
first, the listees, then, people in line for the bathroom and people
sitting by me.  after the opening act, scud mountain boys?, i noticed
there was this guy sitting by himself on the row in front of me.  he had
this weird purple sticker thing on his vest, and my heart skipped a beat
to think it might really be a....live backstage pass?!  well, eea, as i
will refer to myself said, "are you from around here?"

"well, i'm from dallas," man-who-i-owe-the-world (i better not say
names) said.

eea, "what is that?"

man, "oh, it's a backstage pass.  i know them from college when they
played in atlanta, and when i found out about the concert, i called to
see if they would send me a pass."

eea, "wow, how cool! you know, it's one of my life goals to meet them,
but i guess that it will happen when it happens."

man, "oh, really?"smiling" my friend couldn't come, so i have an extra
backstage pass."

eea, "are you shitting me? please don't, man, i would just about die."

man pulls the pass out of his back pocket and gives it to me.  i freeze,
stare at it, and ask him where i should put it.  then, i put it on my
*list shirt* and i am in shock and way hyped up the rest of the concert.

<meanwhile, these other two girls who had moved to empty good seats from
the back start majorly kissing his butt and ask him if they might be
able to go back too.-important insert-man, i don't think that i was
kissing his butt, i would have talked to him even if he didn't have a
backstage pass as i mentioned, i was eea!-later, after the concert,
these girls told all of their friends about him, so there were about 10
people around us. 5 security guys had to wrestle down this guy to get
his video tape, then they came over to us, and the girls said they were
with man.  security asked man if they were with him, and he put his arm
around my shoulder and said only me (sweeet, sweet, sweeeeet guy).>

they told us backstage stuff was cancelled and man said he knew them, so
some security guy got his name and went back there and another guy came
in and said, "hey, man!" and man pushed me where i could go in front of
him so that i could go too when we went back.  we went in the backstage
dressing room and derek from caedmon's call (who i had met in lubbock)
was leaving.  i met emily, then amy, and shook hands with them. emily
started talking to man, and i told amy, "i don't want to be annoying or
anything, but would you mind signing this?"  so she and emily signed my
promo poster and my friend's ticket stub.  they talked to man and i just
stood there thinking, "wow, these are the real people." (probably not
realizing how dumb i looked not talking at all in their conversation-i
should have left so they could talk in private, but i went brain-dead)
i think that emily was looking at my shoes, even!  they talked for a
good 5-10 minutes and then emily unsnapped her overall thing and said
she was tired.  amy added emily was getting over a cold. i started
backing up for the door and (thank god i remembered my manners) said it
was nice meeting them and then amy gave me a little hug and said it was
nice to meet me too. (i wonder if i jerked back in shock or anything,
now)  then they went one way and man and i went another.

as i was walking to my friend's car, i heard people yelling because i
guess they had walked out, then i started hitting myself on the head
with my poster-thing saying, "wake up!", but i didn't. wow! all i can
say is, "thank you, god, for your graciousness! and thanks for the
indigo girls and their great attitudes!"

i dreamed that i would meet them last week, but i didn't even think
anything of it.  what else is weird is that, in my dream, amy was the
most outgoing and nice, even though emily is my favorite, and thursday
night, amy seemed to be nicer (but emily was sick and um, hello amber, i
already knew she was quiet) i tried to be good and do everything right,
i hope i haven't violated their privacy or anything.

the only thing now that bothers me was that i was previously teasing my
brother that i would be able to die after i met the indigo girls, and
now i'm kind of worried that might happen. oh well.

the point of my story is for the people who haven't met them not to give
up, you never know what can happen.  i was heartbroken that i couldn't
see them in august, but it worked out for the best.  sorry for the
bandwidth.

amber
(i even was joking with my friend that since i didn't bring a camera or
anything, i probably would meet them)

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well, here's my suggestion. i thought i'd post it to the list to see if
anybody else likes it.
i know that some time last year, emily was the public speaker at a gay youth
conference in atlanta. i wasn't there, but i think some people on the list
were lucky enough to get to go. anyway, around that time i thought i read in
an interview somewhere, her saying that one cause she really cares about and
wants to get more involved in is helping gay youth. (does anyone else
remember this or am i talking out of my butt?)
so, perhaps some lesbigay organization?

:) abigail

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                   ~herb cummins, world class teacher

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hallo lorinda, and all the beautiful indigo folks out there!

sorry that this has to be another ellan-related post, but after seeing
lorinda going out of her way (is that correct englitsh?) gathering all
these addresses i feel like i at least would have to do something. i'm
sure these people/organisations receive thousands of letters all the time
supporting or condemning what they are doing from the united states,
but perhaps they don't hear from foreigners out side of u.s. that much.
do you think if a non-us citizen write to them they would take it
seriously because of the international attention, or they would simply
dismiss it as a nonissue? i've always felt strongly about these
sanctimonious and self-righteous religious people and it ist heigh time
that i give them a piece of my meind! and i love the disneys for what
they're doing.

by they started showing _ellen_ last year here in taiwan on every
wednesday from 23.00 to 23.30. she's quite well-known among students, and
her book _my point is...and i do have one" was also translated into
chinese und made it to the bookselves in the bookstores everywhere.

at least we love; they only hate.

han

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i have to nominate this as the best nigc post ever:)
i'm really sorry about what happened and your story really moved me. i
almost started bawling in the middle of the university computer commons.
just goes to show how little time we have in this world and that there
are things that need to be said.
ben
"525,600 minutes: how do you measure a year? in daylights,in sunsets,in
midnights,in cups of coffee,on inches,in miles,in laughter,in strife. in
525,600 minutes how do you measure a year in the life? how about love?"
-jonathan larson( it may not look like much written down but trust me,
it's a damn powerful song:)

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<<well, here's my suggestion. i thought i'd post it to the list to see if
anybody else likes it.
i know that some time last year, emily was the public speaker at a gay youth
conference in atlanta. i wasn't there, but i think some people on the list
were lucky enough to get to go. anyway, around that time i thought i read in
an interview somewhere, her saying that one cause she really cares about and
wants to get more involved in is helping gay youth. (does anyone else
remember this or am i talking out of my butt?)
so, perhaps some lesbigay organization?>>

that is a good idea abigail....i have some suggestions...there is an
organization called sexxual minority youth assitance league based out of dc
that could really use the funds. they are trying to get a bigger building and
support the glbt youth in more ways. way back on the rop tour (maybe it was
so) ig donated the money from one of their shows to smyal.

also, continuing on the glbt youth theme, there is another organization
called nattional youth advocacy coalition that works on national policy
issues. they lobby on the hill, as well as serve as a clearing house for
inforrmation.

these are just two ideas...of course there are more:)
kate

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subject:      emily on youth

hey!
procrastination time. . .
i was one of the lucky few who got to go to the conference emily
spoke at this past october. . . it was about gltb youth.  emily did
say that she wants to be more involved with youth issues, so,
abigail, you didn't make that up.
ok, back to theorizing lesbian literature.
janet
if we respected only what is inevitable and has a right to be,
music and poetry would resound along the streets.  when we are
unhurried and wise, we perceive that only great and worthy things
have any permanent and absolute existence, that petty fears and
petty pleasures are but the shadow of reality.
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is that there is an exception to every rule.

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well, i don't know if anyone else saw this but i was thinking about the
organization idea for emily's bday...

i watched some of the vh1 honors last friday night, and at one point when
they were talking about the campaign to raise money to keep music in the
schools there was a brief segment when emily was on talking about how she
felt that it was very important to keep the music in the school system
alive.  i think it is a great cause...so many artists get started when they
are introduced to music at a young age.  something to think about...

peace,
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abigail wrote:

>i know that some time last year, emily was the public speaker at a gay youth
>conference in atlanta. i wasn't there, but i think some people on the list
>were lucky enough to get to go. anyway, around that time i thought i read in
>an interview somewhere, her saying that one cause she really cares about and
>wants to get more involved in is helping gay youth. (does anyone else
>remember this or am i talking out of my butt?)
>so, perhaps some lesbigay organization?

i was thinking the exact same thing, and i've heard it now from a couple
of other people.  anyone with information about specific gay youth
organizations that emily's involved with, please email me or mandi
(mandi96@airmail.net).

i was watching vh1 today, and before the hard rock live set with mary
chapin carpenter and shawn colvin there was some benefit thingy for an
organization called save the music.  they buy instruments for kids in
schools, basically try to keep school music programs going.  and i was
listening and thinking, emily would *love* this, it would make a perfect
gift, i wonder if she knows about it???  and just then, i hear some
familiar background music and then there she is, ms. emily saliers
herself promoting the cause.  (i was a little peeved that they had a clip
of bill clinton first, i mean *we* all know who cares the most about this
stuff, but whatever.  we need all the support we can get.)  the phone #
is 888-notes-97.  i called and left my address for a brochure.

so, i propose that we split the donation between both these causes.  i am
100% sure that there's nothing else we could do that would mean more to
emily, and i think she'll be somewhat surprised and extremely touched that
we know her this well.  let's hear some support for this...and as soon as
we all agree on the specific organizations, i'll pretend to be emily and
post a more  passionate explanation of why it is so important to support
these groups.

thanks y'all,
audrey
*who thoroughly enjoyed the hour of chapin and shawn, and is *really*
happy that they are friends....it's neat how you can tell how bonded they
are just from their joking around.

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>>secondly, i am old enough to remember watching "soap" on tv weekly.
billy crystal's character "jody" was very gay and very "out." this series was
very popular and uncensored in terms of the content. so, why the problem now?
is it because ellen is a woman? is it because she is the lead character?.>>

what i think it is is that billy crystal was acting his character, and thats
why it was "acceptable" but  because ellen is really gay, it's not. and i
think that is so messed up. why is it okay for a man, and not a woman?? ( i
think that has alot to do with it too) i love her show, i think she is very
funny!!  and i also think it will be very interesting to for once see a gay
woman as a lead character in a sitcom.
i think society needs to focus on more important issues, like the drug
problems, the murderers...
-kim

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hello fellow listees, fortunate ones, indigs, whatever,
i'm celeste--a rather passive observer of this list for the past week and a
half or so ready to make her dramatic entrance into the mainstream life of
the listees (or maybe not, i can be a bit melodramatic sometimes) i am
finally going to my first ig concert at penn state university and can
definitely not sleep--i'm planning to make a boot of the show if anyone wants
to trade (we'll see how things turn out)  but if anyone is going to the
show/doing anything interesting afterwards, throw or drop me a line...
closer to wonderful (how on earth could i be just fine when the concert is in
less than 48 hours?!?!), celeste

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i think the splitting of support is a perfect idea!  we raise as much money
as we can and split it right down the middle, half for each group.

i would like to publicly announce my pledge of $50 to start this fund off so
come on y'all!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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>6/12 cuyahoga falls oh, blossom center

anyone know when tickets go on sale?

sari

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sari laufer
northwestern university
s-laufer@nwu.edu

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date:         sun, 13 apr 1997 23:36:52 -0400
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from:         celeste pietrusza <botany07@aol.com>
subject:      confusion

just a strange little tidbit from the mind of celeste....
     when i first started listening to the indigo girls (i bought swamp
ophelia then rites of passage) i always assumed that amy was emily and vice
versa because emily just always looked tougher, in the majority of the cds
(well, rites of passage, strange fire, i think swamp ophelia too) emily
stands in front of ame, so i thought she'd be more agressive, and amy more
passive, more poetic, but it seems it was the other way around...this took me
a long long time to get used to

okay now that i have thoroughly confused anyone who read this.....

anyone else think the same, or am i just crazy?  celeste

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subject:      re: emily's b-day donation
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here's a thought...
emily seems especially interested in helping out young up-and-coming women
songwriters (hence the lyric contest, and the stuff she used to do with
emory..workshop type stuff, and more??).  is there a way that maybe some
sort of little scholarship could be set up for young songwriters to
do...um...something with?  uh, this is fuzzy so maybe you could help if
you think it sounds good.  how could the list help up and coming
songwriters or other artists on behalf of emily saliers?  maybe someone
else will run with this ball.

on sun, 13 apr 1997, lorinda wright wrote:

> should be to try to figure out what _emily_ would want, not what _we_
> would want. hte was clearly a good choice for amy, and may also be for
> emily, but what i'd like to see is for someone who may have a better idea
> of what emily would want to write either privately or publicly to suggest
> an organization to donate to. i personally don't know what to suggest,
> but maybe someone else out there does.

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i just printed up all the song lyrics from lifeblood (i'm compiling a
guitar tabs and lyrics book) and i was wondering if i should alphabatize
or albumatize the songs....also if anyone knows some sites to find
guitar tabs i'd appreciate it...
thanks...:)
-trace

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subject:      re: nigc: emailing the 'right/ellen in taiwan
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on mon, 14 apr 1997, glee wrote:
> do you think if a non-us citizen write to them they would take it
> seriously because of the international attention, or they would simply
> dismiss it as a nonissue? i've always felt strongly about these
> sanctimonious and self-righteous religious people and it ist heigh time
> that i give them a piece of my meind! and i love the disneys for what
> they're doing.

i think they would take it seriously if you wrote to walt disney corp and
included information on how you and your family/friends/groups you belong
with would patronize organizations who show solidarity forthe family (ie
glbt), maybe business stats on how much $ in profits comes from taiwan,
glbt stats from taiwan, stuff like that?  it hits home with it's about
money, and if we make it clear that wavering on this "gay agenda" piece of
shit from the right will lose them money, they are more likely to take
notice.  just my thoughts on this.--g


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subject:      does anyone know where the woodlands, tx, is? (are?)

i'm trying to convince my so to go to the dallas show on 6/28, & was
wondering where this other one is located. . . is woodlands a town or a
venue?  (if it's a venue, that would explain why it's not in my atlas, now,
wouldn't it?)

thanks,
dee

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subject:      nigc: shawn colvin on vh1... anyone tape it??

hi!

i hope all is well with you.

due to the injustice of my local cable company, i do not have vh1 or mtv
(i know... tragic, huh?).  if anyone taped this and would be willing and
able to tape it for me, could you let me know?  pretty please with
skittles on top!  :)  i could send you an sase and tape, or possibly
trade something (though i will be quite busy with school in the coming
weeks... sooooo, if you'd like to trade, it may take a little longer).
i'd *really* like and copy of this and would appreciate any help!

have a great day/night!
tamara ;)

on sun, 13 apr 1997 22:00:39 -0400 audrey beth stein
<abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu> writes:
>abigail wrote:
>i was watching vh1 today, and before the hard rock live set with mary
>chapin carpenter and shawn colvin there was some benefit thingy for an
>organization called save the music.

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subject:      lalalalala (nigc)

does anyone know of any good muscials with alto female leads???  this year my
high school is performing showboat (which, sorry if anyone likes the musical
has to be one of the most poorly written muscials of all time with dialog
such as "well, if it's not for real we can just make believe ::annoying
southern accent::) but i am proabably going to have some pull as to what the
musical is next year and need suggestions--i think a rock one would be
awesome, like chess ("one night in bangkok")  also, where can i get a copy of
jesus christ superstar with a+e??
love and other psychedelic things, celeste

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hey everyone!

i just wanted to let y'all know that there will be a list gathering of sorts
before the show on tuesday (which is now officially tomorrow!) we'll be
meeting near the nittany lion shrine around seven and hanging out there
until we decide to wander into rec hall and find our seats (it's only about
100 feet!) for those of you that may not be familiar with psu the shrine is
in the little wooded corner at the end of the parking lot in front of rec
hall. i'll most likely be wearing a dark blue (indigo colored!) tie-dyed tee
with the earth on it...maybe i'll make a little sign or something. sound
good to y'all?

if anyone has any questions or whatnot--email me. otherwise, i'll be looking
forward to meeting all of you! :)

trying to be patient...
tamara

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>such as "well, if it's not for real we can just make believe ::annoying
>southern accent::) but i am proabably going to have some pull as to what the

ok, this has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but does anyone else
hate it when movies come out like steel magnolias(which is one of my
favorite movies by the way) and they all have these stupid f*****g southern
accents!!!  i mean, we don't talk like that...geez...that is just something
that really bothers me...ok, sorry to have wasted such space about nothing!

less 6 days until the au show...woohoo!!!

peace all
tucker

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let's just say colby was amazing, a+e were far more relaxed on stage and
chatted with some loud, and obnouxious dork between songs, and maybe this
dork went onstage (pulled out of the croud by amy herself, i think i
witnessed it with my own eyes) and sang, probably total