lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-04c


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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:08:31 -0400
reply-to:     emilyamy@aol.com
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from:         "j \"tigger\" kickliter" <emilyamy@aol.com>
subject:      re: study hall/msg tape tree

ok y'all i dont know what i said wrong but everybody is mailing me wanting to
know where to send tapes to get the boots referenced in the subject line.
let me emphasize that i do *not* as of this writing have these boots, but as
soon as i can get them i will post info to the list so everyone who has
mailed me can mail me again!  :)  please stop asking me for them - i ain't
got 'um!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:22:50 -0400
reply-to:     galileo <tbranham@richmond.edu>
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subject:      people who are awaiting tapes from me...
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ok, tom, veronica, and lisa, i promise that i am getting your tapes out to
you asap...things are crazy around here right now and the funds are
low...promise they are coming soon!

lisa...the loop tapes will be in the mail tomorrow...sorry!:( (bad tucker!)

sorry to waste bw...
peace
tucker

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:16:18 -0400
reply-to:     sharon parker <sparke61@violet.umfacad.maine.edu>
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subject:      colby college show...i was there
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i hope y'all don't mind sitting through this but i just have to say that i
caught the girls at colby last night and they rocked! i was pretty psyched
to hear all of their new songs and some old ones, and i had the best seats
i've ever had...even though we got stuck in the tenth row or so even
though we'd been there for six hours waiting in the front of the line
(but it's all in who you know)and i met some cool folks...
   thanks, that's all i wanted to say..
                          sharoane

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:27:09 -0400
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subject:      re: ig scholastic interview
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hey...

i was just reading the transcript, and i was thinking...

in the bible belt of michigan (grand rapids is run by the dutch reformed
and the amway corporation--they have their headquarters here) i find it
really hard to believe that many teachers would allow the words
sexual/emotional/physical abuse into their classrooms....also any ideas
about galileo.  even though they are public schools, those words raise too
many questions about everything...questions i think people around here are
afraid to approach.  does anyone else feel this way?

love aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:34:02 -0400
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subject:      re: another lyric question
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hello!!

i can't remember the song you're talking about, but here's an idea for you
to think about.

in the bible, there is a story about sodom and gemmorah, two cities where
supposedly homosexuality and other "bad" things were running rampant.  god
tells abraham that he has to destroy the city.  abraham tests god by
asking him, "would you destroy it if 50 good men were there?" god says no,
and abraham tests him down to 10 people.  then abraham asks god to let him
warn one of his relatives, lot and his family about the destruction so
they can leave.  well, lot and his wife leave, as do lot's daughters.  but
to prove they have no regret, god tells them not to turn around and look
back, to just run away.  well, lot's wife looks back, and god turns her
into a pillar of salt.  so, by saying i'm a pillar of salt may mean, i
looked back...understand that that i am looking back.

i had classical literature last semester, and we read all of genesis.  i
could find the passage exactly, but i know that's pretty much how the
story goes.  if you need to know more, please email me.  i'll tell you, i
never found much use for the bible, but as a piece of literature, i find
it a little more interesting.  i go to a very conservative school, and we
had a jewish professor, a woman.  the class went crazy every time she
referred to the bible as a myth...

anyway...just thought maybe i'd help you out...

love aim


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"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:30:48 -0400
reply-to:     dennis gregorovic <dgregoro@mit.edu>
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from:         dennis gregorovic <dgregoro@mit.edu>
subject:      delurking, unh, colby, and wheaton

hi.  i've been lurking for almost a year now, and i really love this
list.  i haven't written so far because i felt like i didn't have
anything to say.  however, this past weekend was so amazing that i
need to share it with y'all. this is a bit long, so i'm sorry about
that.

saturday@unh)
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        my friend and i rented a car and drove up to durham early
enough to grab some food with other list memebers.  it was my first
time meeting anyone else on the list so that was fun.  the concert was
amazing, but i'm sure you're already read the reviews.  my tenth row
center seats were great and definitely worth the two hours i waited in
line at ticketmaster.
        after the show about thirteen other people and i waited around
back to catch a&e leaving.  we waited an hour and fifteen minutes in
cold rain, but everyone was talking and in a cheerful mood, so it went
quickly.  then the bus slowly starts backing up. we're all standing
alongside it, and then when it passes us we are looking through the
front window and see emily inside.  we all start cheering and
following the bus.  then we sing happy birthday to amy and when we're
done the bus stops.  amy and emily come out of the bus and talk to a
couple people and get some pictures taken before going back inside.
they were only out of the bus for about a minute, probably becuase the
weather really sucked.  i was able to get a picture with amy (which i
hope comes out well), and i told her how much i love their music.
then i headed back to boston a very happy man.

sunday@colby)
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        using the same rental car, my friend, kristen, and fellow
listee, anjeanette, headed out for maine.  at first i didn't know if
driving that far with someone i had never met before was such a great
idea, but it turns out that anj is really cool.  the three of us got
along very well.
        so then we got to the gym about 6:15 for a 7 o'clock show.  at
first, our seats weren't so good, but as soon as the girls came on
everyone in the first ten rows or so gets out of their seat and crowds
in front of the stage.  i thought that was so cool.  we wound up
standing about 15 feet away from the stage and had a great view.  the
concert was wonderful, although i think i liked unh a wee-bit more.
        after the show we head around back to catch the girls, only to
find out they already left.  so we get in the car and start on back to
boston.  on the way we stop at ll bean.  it's open 24/day and none of
us had been there before so it sounded like fun.  i'm in there looking
at some shirts when anj runs over to me and tells me that amy and
emily are in the store.  she was freaking out so i could tell she
wasn't lying.  i immediately run out to the car and grab anj's nojf
boot and my 1200 curfews.  by then emily had already left.  anj said
she looked very tired, and she probably just wanted to sleep.  however
amy was still there, so my wise friend kristen points out that we need
to calm down and be casual.  after all, amy was in there shopping just
like anyone else and it must suck to get mobbed by fans everywhere.
so we gather the stuff that we're going to buy and stand behind amy in
line at the register.  while there we talked with her for about 5
minutes.  it was mostly chit-chat kind of stuff.  i think we behaved
ourselves quite well, although i did ask her to sign my 1200 curfews
liner.  it was such an amazing experience.  amy was so nice and
actually went out of her way to make conversation.  if i'm ever famous
i hope i'll be that considerate to others.

wednesday@wheaton)
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        i bought a ticket for the show this upcoming wednesday, but i
can't go because a friend of mine is coming up from high school.  so i
offered my ticket to a friend who became ecstatic since the show's
been sold out.  then i go to give her the ticket and i can't find it.
i must have lost it somewhere! argh!  anyway, if anyone out there has
an extra ticket, please e-mail me so that my friend doesn't kill me
for getting her hopes up.  thanks.

dennis

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:42:10 -0400
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subject:      (fwd) selling tix for wheaton show!

i spotted this on usenet and thought it might be useful to someone...
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subject: selling tix for wheaton show!
date: mon, 14 apr 1997 14:06:10 edt

get ig tix for wheaton show wed.
please help me!
i need to sell 1 or 2 tickets for the show at wheaton (in norton, mass.)
that is coming up wednesday night.  please e-mail me if you or anyone you
know still needs tickets.  only $20.  i live in providence, ri.
--toast@brown.edu
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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 00:52:43 -0400
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ok y'all, i'm gonna step out on this issue, i totally agree with everyone
who is against consulting amy about the donation.  i mean, i thought it
was sweet of emily to be just as surprised and happy about the hte
donation as amy was.  sure, it was amy's b-day, but the whole point of it
was that it was a surprise and something that we thought we should do to
show our appreciation. as long as it's heartfelt, i'm sure emily would be
grateful, regardless of which charity we donated to.
also, i don't see anything wrong with contacting russell carter to arrange
a time to give it to emily, but i don't think that there's really a need
to go through their management to come up with an idea.  we're smart
people, we can think of something.  hells, we have already, and whether we
give the donation to the billings house or to that save the music
organization or anything else shouldn't really matter.   we already know
that it's near and dear to emily's heart, because otherwise she wouldn't
support it.  it's the thought that counts.
so come on y'all, let's stop pondering this issue, let's take a vote, or
even have someone stick pieces of paper with each organization written on
it and pick one out of a hat.  but, let's try and get this thing going,
i'm volunteering to help right now, i know that a lot of people won't have
access to email with the summer vacation coming up, so if we can get the
ball rolling here, more people who want to be involved can be.
ok, shutting up now...

veronica


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date:         mon, 14 apr 1997 21:57:32 -0700
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speaking of t-shirts, can somebody explain to me the significance of the
new shirt with the naked barbie-esque mannequin doll thingie in the
forest with the deer?  that is, if you've seen it....

:) marianne

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 15:01:57 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey everyone,

nick asked about the explanation of "kid fears" on
the scholastic tape versus the explanation in the
faq:

>does anyone know which is right?  i guess since amy says the first one on
>tape that must be it....or are they both right?  has the song evolved from
>one meaning to another?

well, the first quote came directly from the
scholastic tape, which is obviously a pretty new
source.  the second quote (the one in the faq) came
direct from an interview that amy gave back in 1989.
so, presumably the song has either evolved or is
about both the music business and about amy's
friends' childhoods.  who knows. :)

sherlyn
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  the way that you've all touched me.
  i thank you for your expressions;
  your music has set me free."          - happy rhodes

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 01:17:33 -0500
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hey...
        someone from indiana posted asking where the ohio ig shows
were.  well, i'm not too sure where exactly kettering is, though i've
heard it's around the dayton area.  as for cuyahoga falls, it's sort
of south-east of cleveland.  i live in a suburb of cleveland on the
west side, and whenever i've gone to blossom before it's taken about
an hour or so, so maybe you can judge from there....as for specific
directions, i'm not much of a help there.....sorry!!!!
        otherwise, right now i'm at school at ohio wesleyan in the columbus
area, and i was just wondering if anyone else is from around here, and
if so, have you heard sots on any radio stations or anything???  just
curious....i have yet to hear it on the radio, though my wonderful
friend christina sent me a boot from davenport, so i'm at least a little
intune to what everyone's talking about.....merci!!!!

anyway, thanks a lot...
lesley

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>>> the world according to steven wright:

<snip>

ok, it is late, i have work to finish, boring books to read, and papers to
bs my way through...then i read this and my roommate and i are almost in
tears we are laughing so hard!

does anyone remember the thread a while ago when people were talking about
misunderstood lyrics?  there was someone who wrote something about a kosher
pickle, and i remember reading that and i fell on the floor not being able
to breath i was laughing so hard.  i couldn't even tell lauren (my roommate)
what i was laughing about because i couldn't breath...

so now when something funny comes through on the list and i start laughing
really hard she goes..."another kosher pickle"!:)

ok, so that had no relevance to anything in anyone's life, and it wasn't a
moving statement that is going to change someone's life, but here is a big
thanks to everyone keeping laughter in my life...much appreciated!:):)

peace all...geez i need to get some sleep!
tucker

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subject:      ballad squeaky fromme live help wanted???

i ahve a friend who is looking for this on a live video that might exist doe
s anyone know of any?

stan

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subject:      current shows.

hey all.  just joined this list again.
        i was wondering if anyone has, or will be taping, any of the shows which
lift is the opener.  (tapes of lift's performance is what i'm getting at.)
so if anyone has taped or will be taping both sets, can you please email me?
thanks alot!
        also any reviews i've missed would be great too.

        t :)

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>
>date:    mon, 14 apr 1997 22:01:23 -0400
>from:    lizard328@aol.com
>subject: another lyric question
>
>i was wondering what amy meant in the line  "i'm a pillar of salt, i want you
>to understand..."  in walk away on strange fire.
>
>we're really dissecting this song!
>
>~liz

someone else already responded, but i was so excited that i understood the
reference(just another sign from above that this whole considering the
rabbinate thing isn't out of the question;-)), that i'm going to add my two
cents in. it's a reference to the story about lot's wife, who, when told to
leave sodom and gomorrah, could not leave without looking back. when she
did look back, g-d turned her into a pillar of salt. that's probably why
the song also contains the line "this is the last time i ever look behind."

and on a rather interesting note, there is a salt formation in israel,
possibly near where sodom was, named after lot's wife:-)

sari

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liz wrote:

>i was wondering what amy meant in the line  "i'm a pillar of salt, i want you
>to understand..."  in walk away on strange fire.

this is a bibical reference, from genesis 19. god was destroying sodom and
gomorrah, and had sent two angels to lead lot and some other chosen few
out. verse 17 (niv): as soon as they had brought them out, one of them said
"flee for your lives! don't look back, and don't stop anywhere in the
plain! flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!". then in verse 26
it says: but lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

i'm in a religion class right now and we're studying judaism, so i'm up on
my bible stories, yay me. ;)

anyway, the verse in "way away" says:

i'm a pillar of salt, i want you to understand
this is the last time i ever look behind, walk away.

so i interpret that she's saying that she's going to stand her ground...the
"pillar of salt" metaphor demonstrates that she knows she's taking a risk
in looking back and she isn't going to take that risk again.

just my 2,

shanna

shanna freeman                                         sfreeman@coe.uga.edu

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in one way or another, we're *all* very small animals, and that's all we
need to be. so why worry about it? all we have to do is live in harmony
with the way, for the benefit of the world, and let its power work through
us. let *it* do the work.  --from _the te of piglet_ by benjamin hoff

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 01:59:48 edt
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subject:      em's b-day gift

i agree with those of you who think amy should not be consulted about em's
birthday gift.  it would seem like we were pestering them, and lord knows,
they have enough on their mind right now with a tour, daemon, upcoming hte
shows, etc.  when i suggested contacting russell carter, that was before i
learned that a&e have listed several social causes they support in the promotional
cd package.   something everyone should realize is that by doing this, we
have set a precedent of sorts, that we'll probably have to keep up with in
the future. i personally have no problem with this, since i give a certain
amount of money each year anyway to social/charitable causes, and some of
the ones that a & e support i strongly support as well.  if you think
about it - this works out really well, 'cause that way, we *can* pick only
one cause at a time.  like, next year, we can support two other causes,
and the next year, choose two more, and so on and so on...
just a thought for you all to chew on for awhile :)
but getting back to the contacting amy thing...if we get amy involved in
this, then it's like we're making a big to-do about this, and i personally
would like to be low-key about this sort of thing.  we didn't contact em
about amy's fave cause (well, it seemed kind of obvious, though, didn't it?<g>),
but now that we have a fresh list of causes they strongly support, i think
we can go from there.  i think it's great that rather than wishing things
were better in the world, we are doing something about it by raising much
needed funds for some organizations that do important work.  the power of
the 'net is pretty incredible, isn't it?

peace,

joan :-d

btw, my tv paper says that the rollins band is the scheduled guest on snl
this saturday.  grrrr

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just adding my opinion to the fray -

i also don't like the idea of asking amy about the gift.  i question the
idea that there's one right answer and amy knows what it is, in the first
place.  if some people donated $2500 to your second favorite organization,
how upset would you be?  we have plenty of time to figure this out
ourselves and lots of information to do it with, besides our recently
demonstrated deep understanding of emily's psychology (she's the shy,
insecure, quiet, confident, outgoing, friendly, cold one, for those of you
missed amateur psychology hour...)

i had been thinking about this and even searching the web for
organizations in atlanta before mandy brought it up..  the characteristics
i was looking for were: having to do with children (or youth), with music,
preferably atlanta-based and very grass roots.  those are all things emily
has said are important to her.

i want to make a plug for really sticking to grass roots organizations.
in large organizations, an awful lot of the money you donate will go to
administration and fund raising and never get to the people you meant it
for.  there are ways to research organizations such as the music for
schools thing - there are books published and available in most libraries
which profile organizations and list the percentage of money that goes to
administration etc.  but if we stick to a smaller organization, more of
the money will be used directly for what it is intended.  the impressive
thing about hte is that it seems to be very stripped down in
administration, and that's the kind of organization to look for.

so far, the youthpride group comes closest to what i was thinking of.
actually, i was looking for some kind of group that did theater or music
with inner city kids in atlanta - but yahoo atlanta was surprisingly vague
on the subject.

anyway, my real suggestion was to just take a little bit of time - why not
collect ideas for a week, research the front runners to make sure they
aren't good sounding acronyms with bad stuff going on underneath, and then
vote on the remaining short list?  everything in its own time...

too long as usual,
alison

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okay, i think it's time for me to chime in here seeing as i'm the one
that started this whole thing.  i am so sorry that the contacting amy
thing has become a big deal, i did not want this kind of thing to
happen.  the idea behind contacting amy was simply to make sure that a
group that emily supports and thinks needs the donation would get it, it
is not to make us appear possesive, freaky list types who think we
deserve any sort of response, it was just to make sure the gift would
mean as much as possible to emily (and yes i realize that any sort of
donation would make emily feel great, i just want this present to be as
good as possible).
the reason i didn't even think of contacting emily for amy's b'day was
simply that it is pretty obvious that hte is something near and dear to
the girls hearts, so it seemed the right thing to do.  now we have to
come up with another organization so that we can share the resources
that this list has with other worthy organizations.
this was done with purely good intentions, we are not trying to make
ourselves more than who we are, just humble fans trying to get a project
going, that's all.  once again, i'm so sorry that this has caused such a
controversy, it was not my intentions to get this started (if y'all
remember correctly i offered to take votes and all that, i'd still be
willing to do that if absolutely necessary).

if this post has caused you to have any bad vibes about the present, i'm
sorry, hopefully you will still want to join in for emily's b'day
present.  please do not respond to this message on the list and please
try not to flame me, keep in mind that this has been done with only the
best intentions and i don't know if i can take 1,000 people being mad at
me right now (i've been incredibly depressed since finding out some very
bad news last night and this project has given my mind something to do
and given me hope).  i've written this only because i feel responsible
for starting the whole thing and i don't want this debate to cause any
bad feelings on the list.  please do not let this post (or any other
like this one) turn you off towards the birthday project, this is a very
hard thing to organize and once we get past this stage it will be great,
no matter what organization we choose to do!

i'm sorry for any bad feelings anyone has gotten from this debate or
anything else that has stemmed from this project.

with love,
mandi ~who wishes she didn't have to post this message and is hoping
everyone understands where she is coming from

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i would like to be the first one to reassure mandi that she is doing an
incredible job and to make sure that she realizes that all of us understand
that her idea to contact amy was just that, and that no one has any hard
feelings!!

keep up the good work mandi!!

miah the reassurer :-)

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folks --

    i'm going to be living in dc for the month of may, and was wondering if
people from that area could give me some tips on cool places to hang out and
hear music while i'm there.

    also, since i know virtually nothing about the area, could somebody tell
me how difficult it would be to get from dc to richmond for the show on the
27th?

    private responses only, please.  i don't feel like getting flamed. <g>

                                                            laura

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subject:      re: kid fears: ig scholastic interview vs. ig faq

i think the song is about _both_ subjects.  i recall hearing about
amy's friends before _and_ about her opinion of the music business.  i
think that's a function of amy's stream of consciousness style of
writing, another example of which is "jonas and ezekiel".  that song
was inspired by a bicycle ride, slaves names in a graveyard (which i
doubt was in nh or vt), and manages to incorporate native american
issues as well.  amy has said in an interview that she still isn't sure
what the song is about.  (funny, because i think i know what it's
about!)   plus don't forget "chickenman"....

peace,
fran e.

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okay...this is another shot at getting my hands on the informational thing someone posted about blood quantum.  i really need that info...and i deleted it accidentally.  please...send it to me...someone has to have it...or know where to find it.  i did a search today and found lots of cool stuff...but not what i need.  thank you so much.

jennifer w.

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not to start any other public flames, but i sent tapes to (sorry to name
names, but there were numerous unanswered personal emails sent) larissa brown
a year ago, and have yet to see boots or even the blank tapes back. i know
she's moved several times, but i haven't (ie, my address is still the same).

i know people get busy, but....well, let's just say i've kissed those tapes
(and tapes i sent to another person in december--she knows who she is, i'm
sure but i'm not quite as irritated because it's only been about 5 months as
opposed to a year) goodbye. it's frustrating, when you're totally psyched
about the possibility of getting a boot, to send tapes out and then never
receive the boot--or even the tape that you've shelled out for, not to
mention both the postage you've lost sending the tapes and enclosing a padded
return envelope with first-class postage. grrrrrr.

don't get me wrong--i'm very, very grateful that i've received so many boots
from wonderfully generous people on this list (and there are so many of you
it would takes pages to name everyone!) people have been incredibly generous
about sharing their collections. and i totally understand that things can get
crazy--but if i don't have a boot in, say, six months, that's the point at
which i'd say, please send my tape(s) back. that's why it's doubly
disappointing when after numerous emails....nothing. no tapes. no boots. no
reply.

just my .02 (and strapping on my flame-retardent suit),
julie
jncalif@aol.com

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well, since i live pretty close to kettering ohio (and have good friends
that know that area well -- hi anne & andrea!), it just makes sense that i
coordinate the pre-show dinner for the ig show in fraze pavillion.

so, if you're interested, please email me privately so i can add you to
the list of people to keep updated. at this point, no one is on the list
(even if i've been corresponding with you previously).

we'll get plans made, reservations secured, and directions published for
this...

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hi, would anyone like to buy my wheaton ticket?  $20 or best offer.  it
can meet you at the show.  (private email)

margaret

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hi list,

        i don't know if there is a count being kept for weither or not we
should contact amy (about the birthday donation honoring emily).  please
count me against trying to talk to amy about it.

thanks,
cathy

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ok, generally i try not to post 'me-too-ers'.  but on the issue of
whether or not to ask amy about emily's present, i too am most
emphatically, definitely, 210% against asking amy.  reasons are the same
as other folks have already eloquently stated.  abs, please do not ask
amy!

thanks!
kathy

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are we certain it doesn't have anything to do with the sodium content in
food?

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whoa, i heard soy for the first time last night, and i only have one
thing to say/ask:  why shoes?!?!?!?!?!??  c'mon, amy, you can't just
*tease* us like that in concert and then change it to *shoes*!!!!

also a small question:  can someone tell me where to find the faq -- i
have something to prove to a friend and don't remember where to find the
darn thing...

thanks all,
deb the indigeek :)

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kirsten chevalier wrote:
>
> >
> > i was wondering what amy meant in the line  "i'm a pillar of salt, i want you
> > to understand..."  in walk away on strange fire.
> >
> biblical reference, natch. in the bible, lot was exiled from...
> uh...somewhere (okay, so i'm not exactly up on my bible stories...what do you
> expect from a meta-agnostic? ;-)) but his wife had to stay behind, and god
> threatened to turn lot into a pillar of salt if he (lot) looked behind at his
> wife even once. well, guess what happened? compare and contrast with the line
> in walk away that follows the one you quote: "this is the last time, the last
> time i ever look behind." discuss.

i'm not a theologian, but i play one on tv.  here's lot's story:  lot
was sitting outside sodom when he was approached by two men (angels).
he invites them to stay in his house, have dinner and sleep over.  late
that evening the men of the city gather outside lot's home and demand
that he turn over his guests to them so that they may "know" them.  lot
pleads with them to leave his guests alone-in fact lot offers his
daughters to the throng.  of course all of this makes god very angry and
he commands lot to take his family and leave sodom.  he tells them to
flee to zoar.  however his wife and daughters don't want to leave the
debauchery of sodom.  god tells lot that if they look back upon sodom
and gommorah they sill be turned into a pillar of salt (god was
destroying the cities with flaming sulfur).  sure enough.  as they were
running into the hills for zoar, lot's wife turned and looked upon the
carnage and became a pillar of salt.

that's all i know,
scott
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at 10:03 am 4/15/97 -0400, zippyme@aol.com wrote:

>are we certain it doesn't have anything to do with the sodium content in
>food?

hmm, well, i suppose it's possible...but i personally think it's sort of a
stretch.

shanna

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in one way or another, we're *all* very small animals, and that's all we
need to be. so why worry about it? all we have to do is live in harmony
with the way, for the benefit of the world, and let its power work through
us. let *it* do the work.  --from _the te of piglet_ by benjamin hoff

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hmmmm....morning y'all.....

i don't know why i always get the urge to post before my coffee has taken effect.  ...i guess it's so that i can have a scapegoat for being so damn inarticulate...:)

so.  i go away for four days and already we're planning an emily donation.  you folks sure do work fast!  i've got a delete happy finger (540 --yawn--messages to wade through), but if a charity has been selected yet, let me know and i'll contact them...

oh man.  i've got absolutely nothing to say.  there's a first.:)

the main reason for this post i guess was to sincerely thank all of the donors who contributed to the hte fund.  amy was right.  we really do need it.  there was no requirement for this, and your motivations really knocked the wind out of me.  i had no idea of the generosity and dignity that's so seemingly abundant on this list.
sooooo...three cheers for the kind friends....

i will not be complacent!

i will not be complacent!

i will not be complacent!

whew.  okay.  i'll stop waving these stupid pom poms around.  i'm really not the cheerleader type anyway...

and now that i've got all this money, i can take that trip to barbados that i've always dreamt about.

kidding!  ooh.  kidding.  the money is going out to hte as soon as all the pledges are filled.

so.  from the bottom of my heart (and i do mean that),

thank you.

...peace though music...
-greta

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for the first time in my life as an ig-fan, i feel let down and disappointed
by the girls.  i cannot begin to describe my dismay, when, in my hour of
need, i look to my heroines for inspiration and find none.

i am referring of course to the blatent and inconsiderate lack of personal
names in song lyrics.

having recently set up a community fish tank, i am seeking inspirational
names for my new fishy friends, to bring them a sense of individuality in
their little fishdom.

naturally, my first source for suitable monnikers should be our venerable
goddesses of wit and wisdom, but, on close inspection, what do i find but
lyrics clearly demonstrating a shocking lack of regard and forethought to
fins...er...fans in need.

while some cover tunes may provide some compensation - mona lisa, mad
hatter, romeo, juliet, melissa, uncle john..., well kind friends, consider
this evidence:

chickenman... no, sorry - just doesn't work for my butterfly pleco...
galileo...hmm, for a dwarf gourami?
virginia woolf...for a siamese fighting fish...naaah!
lone coyote...doesn't sit well on a blue fantail guppy...
quite frankly, i'm gutted... i mean, thanks, but no tanks!

i shall take a deep breath now, and resign myself to the fact, that as of
this day, let it be known that the school of 5 neon tetra shall be named
after the spice girls...

indigo girls - great tunes, lousy fish-names.


seffy  ;)


(apologies for the irreverence - all this talk of concerts and albums is
driving me nuts (and as green as a pistachio) i wanna go to a concert!!! i
wanna go to a concert!!! *stamps foot and pouts*)

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hello to all,

sorry about the post to everywhere.
i was wondering if anyone here was booting
the wheaton show tomorrow night?  if so,
please let me know.  i might borrow a recorder
if no one else is taping, but i need to know
today.  thanks a lot!

take care and peace!

-deb

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ok, so there are now unofficial dates for shows in berkley (greek theatre
or shoreline amplitheatre) and red rocks.  since last year, i have been
tentatively planning to try to see the indigo girls in either or both of
these places.  since i have never attended concerts at either of them
before, i was wondering if someone could give me an idea about the capacity
and seating.  are they both always festival seating and approx. how many
people do they seat?  are they always sell-outs for the girls?

any pertinent info would be muchly appreciated.

thanks a heap!
betsy

..............................................................
i'm not scared and i'm not lonely, saving all my money or my
breath.   i'm not looking for an answer, or asking anyone to
second guess.  no.....                  - a. ray/m. mallone
..............................................................

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at 10:01 am 4/15/97, deborah alexander/jmc2000 wrote:
>whoa, i heard soy for the first time last night, and i only have one
>thing to say/ask:  why shoes?!?!?!?!?!??  c'mon, amy, you can't just
>*tease* us like that in concert and then change it to *shoes*!!!!

ok, i'll take a total guess on this one....and btw, two snaps up on your
email addy...jmc2000....

guess #1:  (really stretching it)  remember when the stones sang "let's
spend the night together" on the ed sullivan show (well, i don't...i've
seen film of it tho...)  anyhoo, they changed the words for tv to "lets
spend some time together" due to censorship.  i doubt this is the case with
soy, since a few lines away, amy says "...cking up..." so it's highly
unlikely that amy is censoring herself....

guess #2: (more believeable but still a guess)...in the bible, washing of
ones feet to cleanse from sin is prevalent.

ok, i'm way bored today...lynne m., k8, margaret, and lucy...i'm putting
tapes in the mail 4 u today....i was busy bee last nite taping.....

have a good one!

joni  :o)

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subject:      wow geez folks! smokers!

g'morning friendly friends

i just have a little anecdote to share with you.

once, i sent a certain "other" lister a few tapes to copy some bob dylan stuff
for me (for the record, i despise bob, but i'll do anything for a friend :))

i sent my tapes off and waited. and waited. and waited. and stuff.

i got pretty peode after a while, and started sending this guy emails
constantly to find out what his deal a meal was. i never got any response.

i remembered he lived in montgomery, alabama so one day i called up and got his
info from 411. he had a very unusual last name, and there was only one in the
phone book, so i decided to take a chance.

i called and an elderly woman answered. and i was allllll ready to be indignant
and righteous and....as it turns out, mikal x had died. about six months
earlier in a car accident. and his mom had to tell me. then she asked why i was
calling, and why didn't i know...what could i say? "umm, well, could you please
do a seance and contact him in the hereafter and tell him to send me my funkin
tapes?"

i've never felt like such a moron in my whole life...
i'm not excusing incosderate people, and goddess knows i am sure i owe some
good soul somewhere boots (please contact me if i do). but public flaming isn't
cool! if you don't know the person's situation, you could be *very* wrong. i
was!!!

just my two cheeese curds on this issue,

susita bonita

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hey folks,

so, a half hour free before my advisor gets his last chance to throw a
final wrench into my thesis work ... figured i'd take full advantage of
the time before i go jump off the b.u. bridge after meeting with him.

my apologies for being late in commenting on the unh show.  i'm sure
you're all burnt out on reviews of this show, but i wanted to think about
it from a slightly different perspective.  see, i was really looking
forward to the timing of this show.  my roommate managed to land an
advance copy of the cd and yes, i taped it.  no worries, i will be out
buying my copy on april 29 with the rest of the world, so if you're
feeling a need to jump on a moral high horse, please ride it the other
way ... i am sure you'll find greater transgressions of your code of
ethics elsewhere. ;)

so, anyway, as i was saying ... this show's timing was great.  see, i
go through a cycle with each new ig album as it is released.  at first, a
couple of emily songs leap out and grab onto me, and i sit around in awe
of her songwriting skills ... like southland and 10000 wars from nis,
ghost and virginia woolf from rop and least complicated and wood song
from so.  then, after a few weeks, i start to hear more of amy's
harmonies in those tunes and i go back to listen more closely to a couple
of amy songs, always ending up with a new set of favorites for the
album.  eventually, i switch back and forth until i am able to fully
appreciate each of their contributions to each other's work.  yes, i am a
creature of habit, even in my subconscious.  :)

so, i was really looking forward to a new experience with this album.
having a chance to see the new material live (and pared down to the two
of them without the production level to boot), was sure to kick my now
predictable album experience out the door.  and i was not disappointed.

upon first listen to sots, i indeed latched onto get out the map and
it's alright, my typical emily tunes, even if it's alright is typical
emily :) .  so, i was definitely looking forward to giving amy a chance to
change my mind altogether.  and she did!  the live versions of shed your
skin (which i was feeling was totally overproduced on the album) was the
most kick-ass amy song i have heard since hearing my first boot version of
chickenman.  don't give that girl a gun was on a completely different level
and scooter boys was unbelievable.  the passion that she brings into these
songs when it's just her or the two of them is impossible to ignore.  so,
kudos to amy for leading me into a new album experience, since now, when i
listen to sots, i can hear all those elements which made them so
extraordinary at unh.

unfortunately, i didn't manage to get rid of one problem i have with the
album.  and that is caramia.  i have yet to be able to sit through the
entire album in a single sitting because of this song.  through the first
four tracks, i'm just rocking out, but then caramia hits me, all i can
say is that it hurts.  there is so much happening in this song that it
only sounds like a bunch of obnoxiously high frequency noises jumbled
together to me.  believe me, it pains me to say such a thing about an
emily song ... i never even felt this strongly about airplane.  i was so
hoping that she would be able to carry me past this mental block of mine
upon hearing it live, but unfortunately, i still can't do it.  thank god
for fast forward.  otherwise, i'd never have heard the rest of the album.

so, there are my musings.  it was great to see some listers at the show
... hope to catch you all again at great woods.

take care folks!

back to thesis-land with me,

karen

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subject:      migc: replacements advice

hey folks,

   well i, like amy ray (the only igc in this message ;)), have fallen
in deep lust with paul westerberg's solo work -- "14 songs - paul
westerberg" get it! -- and i'm looking for advice which replacements
cd's i should start with.  any suggestions?

mail me privately -- thanks!

                                -- chris

"the song was a ballad, then i heard the replacements.  it wasn't anymore."

                                -- amy ray

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i havent much to add to the reviews already posted.  it was a
fabulous show indeed, and great fun to see them still as jsut the two of
them (including newport and hampton beach, my last 2 ig concerts).
they seemed happy and relaxed.  from our seats up off on emily;s
side, high above hte floor, we had an interesting perspective.
we wre all ready for amy to go ballistic over the lack of replacemtn
guitars when she broke strings, but she laughed it off.  personally
i thought hte marriage proposal was cute and i think it is great that
amy and emily are doing that for some folks.  if someone feels
that strongly about proposing to get up and do it on a stage in
front of a few thousand strangers, i think that should be applauded,
straight or gay.

one thing that happend which i havent seen here yet, is somthing
i think bears mentioning.  apparently, someon on the floor held up
a sign asking for a pick.  this person was a good 15-20 rows from the
stage.  in the middle of the show, emily spotted the sign and siad
she was going to send a pick back.  she commented that this would
be a true test of human dignity/honesty.  and by gum , that  pick
made it back to the hands it was intedned for.  i cant remember
which one said it, but there was a comment about how they wish
they could show that moment tro billy graham.

still exhasuted from the weekend..... (you mean, it isnt friday yet??)

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amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin

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at 11:01 am 4/15/97, susan b. marine [ ;o) ] wrote:
....
>i called and an elderly woman answered. and i was allllll ready to be indignant
>and righteous and....as it turns out, mikal x had died. about six months
>earlier in a car accident. and his mom had to tell me. ....
>
>i've never felt like such a moron in my whole life...

whoa...you know, you just never know....kinda reminds me of the explanation
emily gave on one boot (gawd knows which one...) about "the girl w/the
weight..." ...and how what appears on the surface (in the case of the
missing tapes, that you've been "had") may not be the case at all ( mikal
x...  :o(  )

i think we all put a certain amount of trust in each other on this list,
sending out tapes and stuff, and 99% of the time, it all works out.  but
there's always that 1% chance it won't, for whatever reason.  i say if you
send blanks or tapes in trade and don't get anything in return, keep
tweeking the person for a reasonable amount of time...if you don't get
anything, just chalk it up to "something went wrong" and drop it....but be
careful in trading with that person again if the opportunity presents
itself.

just my two m&m's.....

joni  :o)  <---who, even tho the contest is over, still looks at each m&m
before she eats it just in case there are two million dollar grey m&m's
floating around somewhere....

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hey y'all!!!!!!

well, tonight's the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

o o
^
\_/


thanks to tamara for organizing our get together, and to all of you who
are going to be there, i have made a humungus card for the girls, so bring
your hand and be ready to write!!  i will have markers in case someone
has no writing utensil, and then either during (for those of you who are
near the front) or after (for those of us who aren't1) someone can give the
card to a&e or security or something....

can't wait to meet everyone!  see ya at seven!!

peace and love and an ig smile-
karrie

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this is an allusion to genesis 20-something when god destroyed the city
of sodom and gomorrah. god told abraham that he would spare the city if
he found even ten righteous people, but he couldn't. some angels went to
visit lot (abraham's nephew) and the men in the town tried to rape them.
they then told him to take his family and flee the city before god
rained burning sulfur on it and for no one in the family could look back
at the city, but lot's wife disobeyed and turned into a pillar of salt.
it was suggested that rebekah looking back is a symbol of indescision.

kirsten? says:
> biblical reference, natch. in the bible, lot was exiled from...
> uh...somewhere (okay, so i'm not exactly up on my bible stories...what > do you expect from a meta-agnostic? ;-)) but his wife had to stay > behind, and god threatened to turn lot into a pillar of salt if he > (lot) looked behind at his wife even once. well, guess what happened? > compare and contrast with the line in walk away that follows the one  > you quote: "this is the last time, the last time i ever look behind." > discuss.

amber

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hey folks..

        i'm excited to be going to the boston release party thingy and the
philly/d.c. shows..look for me if you know me and are gonna be there! i
received this via my site. i don't have this show..but thought someone
might.

we are fortunate ones,
joe
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

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date: tue, 15 apr 97 11:45:23 edt
from: morrisseyc@babson.edu
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hello fortunate one,
        i am writing to you to request information on a very important
bootleg.  i am an indigo girls fan, i love the way they burn music and life,
but the reason i am writing is because of my best friend. she is a huge
indigo girls fan, and the one who turned me on to them. just two days ago i
took her up to the concert at colby college, which was amazing, i guess
that they are going to do this tour without their band.  well, it was on
the ride home when she told me about a concert that she saw her senior year
in high school, and how it was by far her favorite concert ever.  it was an
indigo girls concert in new haven, conn in may of 1995.  the indigo girls
played with band de soleil, and i thought that it would be great if i could
get her a copy of that bootleg, and if i couldn't find that specific one,
atleast one where they played with band de soleil.   if you know anyone
that i contact or any information that would help with this search, it
would be deeply appreciated.  i am willing to pay for it, or would trade
because i can get my hands on plenty of other bootlegs.  thank you very
much for your time, and i await the release of their new record with you.

truly yours,
craig morrissey

my e-mail address

morrisseyc@babson.edu

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dear women:  please send me any informaion you have about the lilith fairs
this summer. i'm interested in dates, venues, craft booths prices and
deadlines etc.  do you have a phone number, e-mail address and web address
for sarah mclaughlin? many thanks, susan horwitz, p.o. box 1000 fort
collins, co 80522   970-493-4433

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hello all in indigo land!

i have just been going through all my mail from the list and i have one huge favor to ask
all of you...please include your e-mail address at the end of your message  if you want a
response.  i have my messages grouped together and don't have the return addresses
along with the messages.  i want to answer ya'll, but can't if i don't know where to send it
to!!!

another note...thanks to those who answered my call for boots and pittsburgh dates...i'll
be answering ya'll soon...

alisa
agreenbe@access.k12.wv.us


lilith fair at starlake amp!!!!!

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fran egan wrote:
> i think that's a function of amy's stream of consciousness style of
> writing, another example of which is "jonas and ezekiel".  that song
> was inspired by a bicycle ride, slaves names in a graveyard (which i
> doubt was in nh or vt),...

well, it's actually possible that the graveyard was in new england.  slavery
didn't disappear there until around 1800 or so.  but i'd be interested to
find out.

tom

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               down on a cold one anymore.    -- mark twain

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subject:      student aid alert

hey y'all!

i'm going to apologize for wasting bandwidth now, but i felt this was relevant
to many of us on the list, myself included!

please direct all flammage to private mail.

thanks!

kelly
kfairbairn@stonehill.edu<--who at this time tomorrow will be flipping out
because it will be her first time seeing the girls in concert.


> >
> >[our thanks to us pirg for this information!]
> >
> >student aid update:
> >ivan frishberg, us pirg
> >
> >bad news as congress moves in the wrong direction on student aid
> >
> >since congress has returned from the recess, there have been signs that
> >the nation's political leadership may once again be backing away from
> >support of student aid.
> >
> >* back room budget negotiations
> >
> >republican leaders from congress and members of the administration have
> >been making so-called progress in the last few days.  within this back
> >room progress however, there is little certainty that student aid will be
> >treated in the same manner it would in the full light of day.
> >
> >over the last three years, our biggest victories have come on the senate
> >floor, where we have pushed many amendments to capture bi-partisan support
> >for student aid.  in the full light of day, we can be very successful in
> >forcing elected officials to vote for amendments that prioritize education
> >over corporate welfare.  in the full light of day, we can also target the
> >programs that are most important and beneficial to students.  this is not
> >the case with these back room negotiations.
> >
> >* pell grants
> >
> >both parties have talked about more support for the pell grant, and
> >president clintonus proposal for a $300 increase in the maximum pell award
> >has gotten a great deal of attention.  unfortunately, budget leaders in
> >the house of representatives who have been disgruntled with the progress
> >of ongoing budget negotiations are discussing budget proposals that would
> >freeze, or come close to a freeze, discretionary spending for next year.
> >this would be terrible news for programs like the pell grant which would
> >stand little chance of even an inflationary increase under a freeze on
> >discretionary spending caps.
> >
> >* tax proposals
> >
> >despite promises of nearly $40 billion in tax relief to support access to
> >higher education, both parties are moving to a more limited tax package
> >that could provide only minimal proposals for higher education.  several
> >sources on capitol hill have suggested that if the total tax cut package
> >is less that $100 billion over 5 years (including captial gains cuts and
> >more), there is little chance of any education targeted tax relief beyond
> >small proposals that could be considered window dressing.
> >
> >*** take action ****
> >
> >students have only a limited time to have an impact on the overall
> >direction of budget negotiations.  april 15th is the deadline for both the
> >house and the senate to pass their fy98 budget resolution.  although they
> >will almost certainly miss this deadline, it demonstrates the urgent need
> >to make our voice heard.
> >
> >pirg, rock the vote and ussa have been joined by nagps, hillel foundation,
> >and the center for campus organizing to circulate the following internet
> >petition on student aid.  we will be launching the petition drive at a
> >news conference on capitol hill next week.
> >
> >sign the petition on the web, and pass on the web address and e-mail
> >version of the petition to everyone you know.  this is an urgent time for
> >washington to hear about the strong support for student aid.
> >
> >############################################################################
> >
> >
> >                     ussa / pirg / rock the vote
> >                         student aid petition
> >
> >the doors to a college education are being closed and students are being
> >driven in to decades of debt because of the failure of state and federal
> >governments to adequately support access to higher education.
> >
> >we demand that the white house and congress act in a bi-partisan manner to
> >eliminate financial barriers to a college education.
> >
> >specifically, congress should substantially increase pell and other need
> >based grants, reduce the cost of student loans, and provide significant
> >tax relief to low and middle income students.
> >
> >a college education is the best investment in americaus future.  support
> >student aid and stop the doors of college from closing on americaus
> >future.
> >
> >
> >
> >first name:
> >last name:
> >street address:
> >city:
> >state:
> >zip:
> >school:
> >e-mail address:
> >
> >########################################################################
> >
> >you can either fill out the petition over the www, or
> >you can e-mail the petition to the address below.  forward this petition
> >to as many people as possible, pot it to newgroups and listserves.
> >
> >petition web address:        www.pirg.org/student/aid/petition
> >                     www.nagps.org/student_aid/pirg-petition.html
> >e-mail address:              studentaid@igc.org
> >for more information:        ivan@pirg.org
> >
> >*========================================================================*
> >| >>>> the national association of graduate - professional students <<<< |
> >|           825 green bay road, suite 270    phone: 847-256-1562         |
> >|           wilmette, il 60091                fax:  847-256-8954         |
> >|          toll free 1-888-88-nagps * email to: nagps@netcom.com         |
> >*------------------------------------------------------------------------*
> >|      nagps 12th national conference - new orleans, louisiana        |
> >|                  october 30 - november 2, 1997                      |
> >+-----------------------------------+------------------------------------+
> >| to access the nagps internet job  | call the nagps office to find out  |
> >| bank, email to nagps@netcom.com   | about the nagps student advantage! |
> >*-----------------------------------+------------------------------------*
> >|  ####         www site >  http://www.nagps.org/nagps/            ####  |
> >*========================================================================*
> >
> >_____________________________________________________________________________
> > this message   |   *** *** *** stop the raid on student aid! *** *** ***
> > sent using the |                    call 1-800-574-4aid
> > nagps e-mail   | send your letter to save-student-aid@netcom.com and nagps
> > server         | will print it and hand-deliver it to your congress people
> >
> >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> michele crescenzo   +   http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~mcresce/
> "our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate,  /  our deepest fear
> is that we are powerful beyond measure." --nelson mandela
>
>

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hey kind friends....

anyone in the st. louis (mo) area might be interested in this....

it's not definite (but i'll keep y'all posted) but there is a sots
"listening party" being planned for friday night 4/25...yes, a mere 4 days
before the actual release date...at a local coffeehouse.

...right now, all i know is that some guy from sony contacted the owner at
mokabe's - which is on the corner of grand and arsenal by tower grove
park - about doing this, and from talking to her, she's pretty excited
about it.  i guess they're planing on giving away stuff - posters,
stickers, maybe even a promo cd.

now this date isn't set in stone...but if you're in the area and
interested in more info, e-mail me privately and i'll let you know when i
hear more details.  (lorinda, i know to contact you!)

peace,
sarah
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i look back on my life
and i have a good laugh..."
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heya peoples,

i just found out 3 short minutes ago that in less than 4 hours i shall
be interviewing the girls!!!!  i'm the penn-state-intervew-person who's
been bothering everyone all week -- i just didn't know what time today
it would be...

*sigh*

unfortunately, it won't be done in the studio, i have to go over to the
venue (rec hall) to see them.  but, as mentioned, i will be taping it,
so if you haven't already emailed me, i'm offering dubs in exchange for
a boot or just a blank tape.  i love this!!  i've gotten a ton of
requests but i don't mind -- i'm gonna have lotsa stuff to listen to
when it's all done.

so, for the people who are seein' them at penn state:  what time is the
list meeting again?  i know it's in front of the lion shrine, but i
forgot what time.  i'll prolly finish the interview and then stop by.
also, is anyone planning on booting it?  i have a tape recorder, but
i'll prolly just stick it under my seat and leave it (believe me you,
i'll be standing in front of the stage) so it won't be a good recording
nor a long one.
ok, nuff outa me...

4 hours till the interview, and 6 hours till the concert....

*joy*

lurve,
feather (who is, regretfully, missing her women's studies class so that
she can bounce off her walls...)

~~~~~~~~(*)~~~~~~~~(*)~~~~~~~~(*)~~~~~~~~(*)~~~~~~~~
heather solimini (feather)
hxs171@psu.edu
the (almost) definitive tori amos discography:
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/4936
(lotsa cover art/picture discs, and a beeootiful pic of tori)
irc: bluegirl
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i'm not going to touch #1 *grin*

>2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
>(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
>recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
>they've given, what would it be?


when i first read this, my thoughts were i wouldn't recommend anything,
because even if it was inspirational to me, maybe i read it at the right
time in my life for that to happen, or whatnot.. but thinking about it
along the lines of just a good book i would want to pass along, i would
have to say _beauty_ by sherri s. tepper.. i loved it .. anyone else read
it? i'd love to hear your impressions.

and just to give some diversity, i'd have to say _the giving tree_ by shel
silverstein as well :)

merry tuesday,

raine

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..raine.......raine@area51.homecom.com.......raine..
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i've not long got back to aberystwyth from my easter break - i had a
great time in london and up in the lake district (though i wouldn't
recommend climbing skiddaw for the faint-hearted!);  hope all of you had a
happy easter.

i asked at the record shop in croydon (hmv) over the weekend about the
release date for the new ig album in the uk.   the date has now been
confirmed - it'll be out in the uk on the 5th may.   (hope that means 5th
may 1997 ;) ).

finally the new indigo index (the one with frames) has not materialised as
quickly as i hoped it would - i had quite a bit to do over the easter
holidays and didn't get time to fix the index.   now i'm back i've got
more essays to write, so as soon as they're done, i'll get to work on it.
i hope to get it finished by the end of may.

mat

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| mts5@aber.ac.uk         \   for anyone, an absentee boss is best."   |
| indigojo@freenet.hut.fi  \     - jeannette winterson, "the passion"  |
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for those of you interested in tickets for the american university show this
sunday!...sorry to waste bw for this again, but...
please direct all requests to meredith at mehn@richmond.edu

i am out of town as of tomorrow and mere will have the information before i
will.  this way you can find out (hopefully) before sunday at noon!
also, anyone who is already going, if you want to get together and stand in
line before the show...please let mere know what time you are going to be
there and such...maybe we can meet up!

i hope to be able to get as many tickets as i can, so cross your fingers!:)

peace all
tucker

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subject:      ig and dar amusement

thought i'd share....

caroline thompson wrote on nields-nook:

> btw, anyone heard the story about when somebody told dar williams
> about how much ig love dar?  random person sayeth, "the girls love
> you."  dar respondeth, "oh?  how old are your children?"
>
> (story told by dar herself during a show at eddie's attic, decatur ga,
> where ig got started.)

                                -- chris

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ann!!! please mail me- i can't seem to reach you and i really want to
make good on the tape i owe you... :) please? i have very long standing
guilt complexes...

also bay area people

please mail me if you haven't yet about the party and even if you have
mailed me you can do it again if you have new ideas or whatever...

love

larissa

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as you all know the birmingham affiliate is not planning on showing ellen
on april 30. i have the phone number to the station if any of you would
like to call and show that you do not support their decision. it is an
answering machine for comments basically. the number is 205-403-3340 after
the machine ansers choose option #7 then optino #1 followed by optino #1
and leave a message.....
bjp

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subject:      au show!!! and youth pride day

in case i missed anything...is there a get together planned at all for this
sunday at au??? i realize that it is a closed show (i dont even know if i am
going to get in...), but it would be great to meet people.

let me know...also, for those in the dc metro area that are interested, this
weekend is youth pride day, from 12-5 in dupont circle. it is for youth (ages
14-30) that are glbt or straight....come out! it will be great, and i will be
speaking!!! (along with more famous types:)

kate

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i am curious to know if anyone has any wendy boots - old or new. i am a
huge fan and miss her live performances since she moved back out west.
thanks.

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from:         digest rod willis <drummstr67@aol.com>
subject:      strange fire tape

hi guys.  a few days ago, someone said something about the strange fire tape
selling for 400.00 in the atlanta/athens area.  when that album came out, i
was touring with a band called the wigs from nashville.  i visited a very
early rem show (had never heard of the guys then) at a place called the
library in knoxville.  my guitar player chuck and i were blown away, and he
asked if i had ever seen the indigo girls or the ellen-jane society.  i said
no, and the next week i was working back stage with the utk jazz ensemble at
the bijou theater in knoxville and someone told me that the ig and ejs were
doing a benefit show that night. i went and really dug the music.  i decided
to go and buy the original strange fire tape to learn the songs and contact
amy ray about recording drums on their next album.  kenny arnoff beat me to
it.  so, my band now is doing strange fire as a cover, and i'm using the tape
to practice the band.  if anyone knows if the tape is worth that much, please
e-mail me and tell me.  my e-mail is drummstr67@aol.com   you guys be
good...be careful...and help save the planet:)
                                                           rod

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well, i just got back from helping prepare the ig and lift dressing rooms
for the psu show today.  i thought some of you might be interested seeing
what the girls require for their dressing room while on tour.  so, before i
head back, here it is, word for word:

indigo girls performance rider (revised 2/97)

dressing room catering

to be placed in the indigo girls dressing room at 3:30pm.  please purchase
foods at a natural/health foods store.  when available, please use
organically grown fresh vegetables and fruits.  no nabisco products.  clean
china and stainless steel cutlery will be provided along with clean
glasses.  unwaxed paper cups may be used as an alternative.

1 vegetable tray for sandwiches (for 2) to include the following:

fresh sliced carrots (lots)
1 seedless sliced cucumber
1 sliced tomato
sliced dill pickles
1 bowl humus
a natural herbal dip
please use organic vegetables when possible

1 large bag each:

non-fat potato chips
non-fat pretzels
non-fat corn chips
non-fat blue corn chips (regular may be substituted for those only)
zapp's potato chips (jalapeno or cajun flavor)(optional)

1 bag whole wheat pita bread
6 fresh bagels (plain, sesame or poppyseed only- no raisin, blueberry, etc.
1 small tub of non-fat bean dip
1 small tub of light cream cheese
1 bowl fresh salsa
2 granny smith apples
2 red delicious apples
3 bananas
2 oranges
assorted herbal teas (caffeine free) and english breakfast caffeine tea
1 box medicinal "throat coat" tea
sliced lemon, sugar, honey, cream for tea
1 six pack diet ginger ale
1 six pack coke classic
1 six pack diet coke
24 1.5 liter bottles of spring water from local spring water company
(please don't bottle yourself)
3 23oz glass bottles perrier water
1 pint natural apple juice or fresh orange juice
1 bottle gatorade light (if you can't find it, get regular)
6 assorted hanson's or corrs natural sodas
6 bottles assorted fruit spritzer
36 bath towels (must be pre-washed)
1 water kettle to boil water only (without coffee smell)
fresh coffee and tea service
inwaxed recycled paper cups, plates, bowls- no styrofoam
cloth or recycled paper napkins
stainless steel cutlery
local newspaper and weekly entertainment magazine
new york times paper
6 local post cards with stamps

well, there it is.  that is for the indigo girls and their band alone.  the
crew, and lift are totally separate lists (and a lot less demanding, i
might add).  a little birdie told me that this list has become a lot longer
and more specific in the last few years.  we'll see how much gets used.  as
often is the case, there is much left untouched (sheryl crow/wallflowers
had the untouched food taken to the food bank).  to those of you seeing the
show, enjoy!

mike

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as a service to our little community of people, i thought i'd share
something to just take the edge off your day.  when you're frustrated and
anxious about the days events, just remember this....your day is probably
filled with more palitable choices than this anonymous listee i heard from
today after saying i was bored....here it is:

jc:  "ok, i'm way bored today..."

anonymous listee: "i am too, can you tell?  i normally don't get so
obsessed about one word (shoes vs. clothes) in an ig song.  really.  it's
just that today, my only alternative is to either do practice problems in
respiratory physiology or sit in histo lab staring at somebody's rectum
through a microscope.  take your pick --  _i'd_ rather be over-analyzing ig
songs, thank you...  <big grin>

well, let's take a vote:  who'd rather being staring at somebody's rectum
through a microscope than what you are doing right at this moment?

anyone?

anyone at all?

that's what i thought.......

have a nice day everyone!


joni  :o)

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i saw a notice on the folk music newsgroup that joni mitchell will be
interviewed by barbara walters on "20/20" this friday (4/18/97).


n.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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lynn wrote:
>
>hi everyone,
>        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
>rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
>covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
>"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack.  beautiful!  also,
>"wanting memories" by sweet honey in the rock (i think).  any
>thoughts?


funny you should ask.  a few weeks ago, in a flash of inspiration, i
came up with an interesting concept.  since they did such a fantastic
job with jesus christ superstar, perhaps they should tackle another
weber/rice musical: evita.  emily could play evita, amy would make a
perfect che, michael lorant could play juan peron....  okay, maybe i
was just delirious. :}

peace,
fran e.

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** i'm too smart. this is a cya prologue to this email. please note: this
** email is intended to be funny as well as informative. if you're
** offended, then you don't get it. i've been on this list long enough to
** know that if it can be taken incorrectly, it mostly likely will be by a
** small yet amazingly vocal group.

hey there everyone! as you know, i volunteered to organize the pre/post
meeting for the kettering show at fraze pavillion. well, little did i know
that alycia (anb038@nwu.edu) had already begun working in earnest on the
self-same project.

after a deeply apologetic email and much toe-kissing (don't ask) on my
part, alycia has kindly agreed to let me help out with her effort. she
only grounded me for two weeks for stepping on her toes a little teesy
bit. she mentioned something about giving my spankybutt a good going-over
too, but i think i talked her out of it... (please note: the spankybutt
comment is a complete fabrication, but that's such a damned funny word
that i use it whenever i can) spankybutt. (see there i go again!)

anyhow, the long and short of it is this: if you're interested in the
list-meet for the kettering show, you may contact either alycia
(anb038@nwu.edu) or me.

we now return you to your normal schedule.

-drew
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hi y'all!
i've got two inspirational books to recommend.  the first is other women
by lisa alther.  the other is the tao of pooh, by benjamin hoff.

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perry at rainy day records just called me...he has the new 2 cd live
ani difranco cd in stock now and has been ok'd by the distributor
to sell it by mail order right away.  it is $19.95 plus shipping (which is
per order so you can gt more than one thng on the shipping
if youwant).  the number is 1-800-636-6166.  he says that the
set also has a very nice, thick photo booklet.

if someone could post this to the ani lists, that would be
great.  thanks!

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on tue, 15 apr 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:
>
> well, let's take a vote:  who'd rather being staring at somebody's rectum
> through a microscope than what you are doing right at this moment?
>
> anyone?
>
> anyone at all?


well, who's rectum are we talking about.  i guess it really depends for
me. :)

kidding.  really.

hope y'all aren't too bored.

be well all,

carolyn

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i was trying to think of some deep book that would be philosophical and
all, btu i kept coming back to _the lorax_ by dr. suess.
it doesn't get any better than that.

sari
>
>>2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
>>(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
>>recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
>>they've given, what would it be?
>
>
>when i first read this, my thoughts were i wouldn't recommend anything,
>because even if it was inspirational to me, maybe i read it at the right
>time in my life for that to happen, or whatnot.. but thinking about it
>along the lines of just a good book i would want to pass along, i would
>have to say _beauty_ by sherri s. tepper.. i loved it .. anyone else read
>it? i'd love to hear your impressions.
>
>and just to give some diversity, i'd have to say _the giving tree_ by shel
>silverstein as well :)
>

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i just want to send out a message of love to everyone who has written me
about my post last night.  the support and love this list has is
amazing!  thanks y'all!

love,
mandi

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hey everyone
        for those of you always looking for new music, i thought i would
pass on my latest find. erin corday is an amazing folk/rock singerfrom the
oregon/washington area, who is currently on tour in the northeast.  she
has good lyrics, a beautiful voice (kind of "the story"-esque) great
acoustic guitar and percussion.  her latest cd on waterbug records
iscalled'secret about the world".

so check it out!

happy day,
jennie

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thanks to the donnas for their transcription efforts...i know there was a
tape tree set up and i must've missed it somewhere, so could the prodigy
donna please email me about it? thanks. sorry y'all. :) --shanna
sfreeman@coe.uga.edu

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hey -- please don't 156 people write about how this is totally irrelevant
to any and all discussion!!! where else could i share this humor though?!!?
i hope y'all haven't already seen this one!
enjoy...      :)'


>
>> q:  how many internet mail list subscribers does it take
>>     to change a light bulb?
>>
>> a:  1,331:
>>         1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
>>           list that the light bulb has been changed
>>        14 to share similar experiences of changing light
>>           bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
>>           changed differently.
>>         7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>>        27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
>>           changing light bulbs.
>>        53 to flame the spell checkers
>>       156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
>>           the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
>>           to this mail list.
>>        41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
>>       109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
>>           to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
>>       203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
>>           alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
>>           light bulbs be stopped.
>>       111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
>>           are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
>>           **are** relevant to this mail list.
>>       306 to debate which method of changing light
>>           bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
>>           what brand of light bulbs work best for this
>>           technique, and what brands are faulty.
>>        27 to post urls where one can see examples of
>>           different light bulbs
>>        14 to post that the urls were posted incorrectly, and
>>           to post corrected urls.
>>         3 to post about links they found from the urls that
>>           are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
>>           relevant to this list.
>>        33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
>>           them including all headers and footers, and then
>>           add "me too."
>>        12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
>>           because they cannot handle the light bulb
>>           controversey.
>>        19 to quote the "me too's" to say, "me three."
>>         4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb faq.
>>         1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
>>        47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
>>           was meant for, leave it here.
>>       143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
>>


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anyone out there know when the sheet music book for sots will be out in
music stores..... i'm so psyched that leeds is a piano piece and i can't
wait to learn it!

thanks y'all!

--nick *who got to go jogging today in the beautiful baaahson weather, ran
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as a rather quiet, but loyal member to this list.....i think you all might
take this humor forward a little more seriously.  600 e-mails in a few days
is somewhat absurd.  i thoroughly enjoyed this bit o' humor!

j


>hey -- please don't 156 people write about how this is totally irrelevant
>to any and all discussion!!! where else could i share this humor though?!!?
>i hope y'all haven't already seen this one!
>enjoy...      :)'
>
>
>>
>>> q:  how many internet mail list subscribers does it take
>>>     to change a light bulb?
>>>
>>> a:  1,331:
>>>         1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
>>>           list that the light bulb has been changed
>>>        14 to share similar experiences of changing light
>>>           bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
>>>           changed differently.
>>>         7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>>>        27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
>>>           changing light bulbs.
>>>        53 to flame the spell checkers
>>>       156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
>>>           the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
>>>           to this mail list.
>>>        41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
>>>       109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
>>>           to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
>>>       203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
>>>           alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
>>>           light bulbs be stopped.
>>>       111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
>>>           are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
>>>           **are** relevant to this mail list.
>>>       306 to debate which method of changing light
>>>           bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
>>>           what brand of light bulbs work best for this
>>>           technique, and what brands are faulty.
>>>        27 to post urls where one can see examples of
>>>           different light bulbs
>>>        14 to post that the urls were posted incorrectly, and
>>>           to post corrected urls.
>>>         3 to post about links they found from the urls that
>>>           are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
>>>           relevant to this list.
>>>        33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
>>>           them including all headers and footers, and then
>>>           add "me too."
>>>        12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
>>>           because they cannot handle the light bulb
>>>           controversey.
>>>        19 to quote the "me too's" to say, "me three."
>>>         4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb faq.
>>>         1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
>>>        47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
>>>           was meant for, leave it here.
>>>       143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
>>>
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susan horwitz wrote:
>
> dear women:  please send me any informaion you have about the lilith fairs
> this summer. i'm interested in dates, venues, craft booths prices and
> deadlines etc.  do you have a phone number, e-mail address and web address
> for sarah mclaughlin? many thanks, susan horwitz, p.o. box 1000 fort
> collins, co 80522   970-493-4433


yeah, you women.  get right on that.  us guys are gonna sit around,
watch footbal and count our sperm.


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does anyone know why the girls & band don't want nabisco products?  did i
miss something?  i am going to miss my triscuits, but if necessary, i'll
give'em up....

:) marianne

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at 02:23 pm 4/15/97 edt, you wrote:
>thought i'd share....
>
>caroline thompson wrote on nields-nook:
>
>> btw, anyone heard the story about when somebody told dar williams
>> about how much ig love dar?  random person sayeth, "the girls love
>> you."  dar respondeth, "oh?  how old are your children?"
>>
>> (story told by dar herself during a show at eddie's attic, decatur ga,
>> where ig got started.)

rotfl,
before bread and roses, in lewiston me, dar made a reference that she was
practicing meeting amy and emily by having two pictures at her breakfast
table and talking to the pictures, without losing it...


mike r.
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on tue, 15 apr 1997, robert and frances egan wrote:

> lynn wrote:
> >
> >hi everyone,
> >        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
> >rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
> >covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
> >"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack.  beautiful!  also,
> >"wanting memories" by sweet honey in the rock (i think).  any
> >thoughts?
>
>
> funny you should ask.  a few weeks ago, in a flash of inspiration, i
> came up with an interesting concept.  since they did such a fantastic
> job with jesus christ superstar, perhaps they should tackle another
> weber/rice musical: evita.  emily could play evita, amy would make a
> perfect che, michael lorant could play juan peron....  okay, maybe i
> was just delirious. :}
>
> peace,
> fran e.


    i have been subscribing to this list for about a month now, na di must
say it is very informative and entertaining as well.  this is my first
post to the list because i was wondering about the the preformance of
jesus christ superstar that fran e. mentioned in this port. i was
wondering if there any published or unpublished copies of the preformance?
if anyone has any info about it could you please e-mail me privatly.
thanks :)

life, love, laughter
    jen

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hi, ya'll! i was wondering if anyone knows when the tickets for the
woodlands show go on sale or have they already? please let me know. this
show is on my birthday and i don't wanna miss it! :)
thanks,
virginia

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would someone who has an advance copy of sots please trouble to tell me the
next line after "...hate me 'cuz i'm gay"?  listening to my norfolk boot and
trying to sing along, it's seriously bothering me.  well, maybe not that
seriously.  :)
amanda c. goad
rice pride/rice college bowl/sid women's football/fondren govpubs
*shameless* cd plug: _living in clip_, ani difranco, in stores 22 april 1997
"i always wanted to be commander-in-chief/of my one-woman army..." -- ad

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date:         tue, 15 apr 1997 18:44:54 -0400
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hey!  i was wondering if any of you awesome people could hook me up with
backstage passes for the summer atlanta tour.  email me at sashawk@aol.com.
thanks!
sarah

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yea....and i'd like some backstage passes to any of the texas shows.
:)
rachel

penelope and tony if anyone responds i'll share with y'all...;)

on tue, 15 apr 1997 sashawk@aol.com wrote:

> hey!  i was wondering if any of you awesome people could hook me up with
> backstage passes for the summer atlanta tour.  email me at sashawk@aol.com.
> thanks!
> sarah
>
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hi y'all,

   tickets were ordered today for those of you that were on my list for
the blossom group buy.


   anyone that was/is interested in this and missed out, e-mail me
privately. blossom has extended the deadline for additional tickets.


   also, anyone coming in for the concert that needs a place to stay or
is interested in a list get-together, e-mail me privately so we get you
on the list.
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- -   who is now counting the days to indigohio :)

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hey guys, i was just reading "the great santini" by pat conroy (an
amazing author, in case any of you just saw prince of tides and didn't
read the book, i beg of you that you go get the book right now!!!).
anyway, these lines came up, and i thought you'd be amused:
"'yeah, we're in georgia sure enough, sportsfans, i'm starting to see
a lot of dead dogs on the highway.  that ought to be the nickname of
this horseshit state.  the dead dog state.'"
please don't flame me!  the opinions expressed here are merely from a
piece of literature, and not me.  i've never even been to georgia!
-rebecca

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subject:      general admission shows

hi everyone-

i was just thinking about the au show on sunday, and i realized i have never
been to a general admission ig show and i was wondering what time  you all
think would be a good time to go put myself in line if the show starts at 7
(i think)  i gotta be in the front : )

counting the days...
sasha

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subject:      re: t-shirts -n- stuff

in a message dated 97-04-15 01:49:14 edt, mlb1@axe.humboldt.edu (marianne
barlow) writes:

<< speaking of t-shirts, can somebody explain to me the significance of the
new shirt with the naked barbie-esque mannequin doll thingie in the
forest with the deer?  that is, if you've seen it....

:) marianne >>


i haven't seen it, but mabey it's supposed to be the conflict of nature with
a mechanized society .... or mabey i've read "howl" one too many times (darn
term paper).

west of bishes
shana (jak)

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nice people in ig-land:

am writer
need job
please

--lisa alice

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lynn wrote:
>> >
>> >hi everyone,
>> >        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
>> >rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
>> >covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
>> >"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack......


see what happens when you skim too fast thru the posts?  i read this soooo
fast, i thought lynn wanted the girls to do a cover of "seasons in the sun"
(terry jacks tune from the 70's)...i'm like "what?   the girls singing
"seasons in the sun?"  no way!
("dough!  seasons *of love*...oh, ok.....")

("we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun,
but the stars we could reach were just starfish on the beach...")

ahhhhhhhh!
joni :o)

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> lynn wrote:
> >
> >hi everyone,
> >        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
> >rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
> >covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
> >"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack.  beautiful!

i just heard yesterday that various artists (as of yet unknown) will be
recording the songs from rent..so who knows?  could happen?...
**tricia**

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subject:      re: em's birthday

i would just like to lodge myself *against* asking amy...... for one thing,
it might take away from hers.  how would you feel if somebody said i'm giving
you this shirt, but by the way what color should i make your best friend's
because i'm getting her one too.  it's not as special.

also, one other thing, speaking from my own experiences, i can't keep a
secret and if somebody told me they were getting this really great gift for
my best friend i don't know how well i'd be able to keep the secret and
wouldn't it be terribly disappointing if something accidentally slipped?  not
saying that amy would tell on purpose or anything but you know how those
things happen you get drunk and your brain and mouth get disconnected, the
latter running without any input from the former.............er, maybe i
shouldn't have said that  :)

anyway that's my opinion.  let's come up with our own idea who to donate to.

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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subject:      nigc-a request

i am now trying to put my electronic life back together after a very
traumatic hard drive crash.  luckily i had all my word processer stuff on
disk.  unfortunately i have lost all of my saved mail.  if anyone could be so
kind as to send me some old saved stuff that might be important, i'd be very
grateful.  if you have anything that i wrote(or was written to me), tour
dates, articles and stuff, url's etc, i would be quite thrilled.
thanks.
  jennifer palumbo

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evening folks,

just thought i'd drop a note out to ask if there were any albuquerque
lis, ig or mle listers out there.  i will be in albuquerque next week for
a conference and thought i'd ask if there is anything in particular i
should see.

i would kind of like to take an afternoon during the week to play a quick
9 holes of golf, so some info about any accessible courses would be
helpful.

thanks all,

karen

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subject:      re: walk away

regarding the "pillar of salt" discussion.....(thanks to all for the detailed
explanations of this biblical reference!) :) ....this is my take on it....
becoming a pillar of salt is the penalty for looking back, right?  so by
saying "i'm a pillar of salt" perhaps amy means that she is paying the
price/penalty for looking back....or rather, that she's causing herself pain
by trying to hold on to the past.

just throwing my pennies in the pot! :)

-connie

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in a message dated 97-04-15 13:43:22 edt, you write:

<< i think the song is about _both_ subjects.  i recall hearing about
amy's friends before _and_ about her opinion of the music business.  >>

yes....the story i heard was that the verse that starts "skipping stones, we
know the price now...." was specifically referring to the music industry, (in
particular the lines "how much further, if you can spin, how much further, if
you are smooth" = how much further you can get in this business if you know
how to b.s. your way around people or something like that) but that the
overall song in general was about amy's friends/childhood fears.  :)

-connie
(just another $.02!)

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okay...i just sent out a message about the bay area list party plan to
everyone whose email i have, if you've sent me your email and didn't get
a message please mail me.

for those arriving late on the scene:

we're having a bay area list gathering.

date: april 29th, sots release date.
time: 7pm or so till the cows come home
place: my parents lovely house in menlo park
what to do: email me at lbrown@scruznet.com


love love love

larissa

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subject:      nigc!! help nyro tribute go national on npr !!

okay !
before you all kick my ever lovin' nigc ass all the way to kingdom come
(and back) i want to explain that i hope to call on you legendary grass roots
organizin' happy souls to help by requesting that your local npr station
carry
the laura nyro tribute planed for sunday april 20th. i noticed that news
of her death was observed by many music newsgroups as she was a
godmother of sorts to singer songwriters everywhere. [maybe some on the kd,
vega, dar and me lists may be intersted >hint, hint<]
also the producer asks people to also email him
(fred migliore) at : ausm@juno.com
in order to rally some support for the endeavor. for those of you who get
wfit in florida (4/20)10 am - 1 pm)... enjoy !

after all....how can you resist a woman who wrote a song called "emily" ???

love and petals !
miss binky (who only burst into tears once today :)
"i was walkin' on gods good side !" (guess who ?)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>thanks to all of you for the tremendous response we received to the
laura nyro tribute planned for broadcast this sunday, april 20 on another
unconventional sunday morning (ausm) on wfit in melbourne, florida.

we'd love to accommodate your ability to hear this broadcast and would
greatly appreciate any help you can give us with contacting the proper
person at your local npr station.  i've already been in contact with npr
in washington based on these responses and am waiting a reply.
>snip<
if you know any other
people that are interested in hearing this broadcast, please have them
email us at ausm@juno.com as the more responses we receive, the better
position we will be in to have it broadcast nationally.

thanks again for your help and support,

fred migliore, executive producer
another unconventional sunday morning >>
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subject:      re igc questions...inspirational books to recommend
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gwen koenigsburg <gkoeni1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
> hi y'all!
> i've got two inspirational books to recommend.  the first is other women
> by lisa alther.  the other is the tao of pooh, by benjamin hoff.

another big vote for the tao of pooh!  i love reading pooh stories now
more than i did at five.  a beautiful book.

tom

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subject:      femme amy and emily alert!

so sorry to interrupt your otherwise peaceful tuesday night. ("ellen"
wasn't on anyway...)  i just wanted everyone to know that today in my
"community" newspaper, there was a picture (no article) of a & e, with a
list of great woods stuff.   a totally gorgeous femme picture. they both
look incredible, although it is in black and white.

the highlight of this news is that tonight i finally found out how to
upload files to my webpage, which means the picture is now online for
everyone to see!! it's at

http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/femme.jpg

tell me what you think....i might have done something wrong, so let me
know if you can view it or not.....thanks!

-liz-

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subject:      emily's b-day

emily's b-day gift.......me!!! oh, well...just a thought.

  annie

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>
> nice people in ig-land:
>
> am writer
> need job
> please
>
yeah, and there's a *huge* markets for writers whose sentences lack
subjects and articles, right?!
kirsten (:-) not a flame, don't flame me)


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subject:      boston promo at mama kin's -- i'm going!

i was really dissapointed i never won tickets for this show from either radio
station or newbury comics, and just yesterday i was reading the posts about
listees who met a and e at the ll bean in maine, very jealous because "that
would never happen to me..."

well, it is about to!

i just got word that my friend megan got two tickets for the cd promo/boston
meet and greet at mama kin's in boston thursday -- and is taking me as a
graduation present!!  sometimes really nice things happen long after you've
given up...

anyone out there who is also going or has been to one of these in another
city and has some words of advice for me, i'd be very appreciative.

thanks, kevin  kevsmin@aol.com

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subject:      wheaton-please read- please!!! a.s.a.p.
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hey y'all-
to anyone who's going to wheaton-i'm coming from two hours away and can't
leave until around 4:30.  is there any way anyone could save me a place in
line?  it would be a giant help!  i would be forever grateful!
i will have two friends with me, it would mean so much.
thanks- y'all are great!  (might as well butter you up!)
please e-mail me by 4:30 on wed. (cause that's when i'm leaving!)
i'll be wearing a white dress to my ankels, a cream patagonia, and most
likely, a green hat!  if not, i have very short (about 1/2 in. long) dark
brown hair and am a mere 5'1".
thank you!
-emily
ems420@aol.com

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allright allright okay...susita bonita has a point...
but i won't retract what i said..
what i will do is be a fabulous booter and record my boots as soon as i
receive the tapes and send them out the very next day...
i'm all set and organized (just ask a certain bass player! *smiles*) and
do my best to not be a jerk... :)
sorry for making a horse's butt out of myself... :)

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
"well, okay...let's just say that someone was fleeing from somewhere, looked back at someone, and got turned into a pillar of salt.."-k.c.

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>or mabey i've read "howl" one too many times (darn
>term paper).

whoa, that was kind of harsh. i don't mean this to be a flame, but i'm still
having a really tough time dealing with allen ginsburg's death...

~abigail


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>
>date:    tue, 15 apr 1997 14:37:59 -0500
>from:    robert and frances egan <egan263@ix.netcom.com>
>subject: re: ig covers
>
>lynn wrote:
>>
>>hi everyone,
>>        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
>>rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
>>covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
>>"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack.  beautiful!  also,
>>"wanting memories" by sweet honey in the rock (i think).  any
>>thoughts?

first of all, i have to say that there are better songs from rent, in my
opinion, though they would souund great doing that one. how about "take me
or leave me":-).  also, i'm super excited that someone else knows the song
"wanting memories." it's an amazing song!!!
and on a non-ig note, does anyone have any idea who sings a song that might
be called "hungry." ?the first verse goes:
        i can change the whole world over, should i even try?
        i got troubles of my own, let me tell you why.
        i am hungry for a cigarette, i could use one right now.
        'cause my hands are in a cold cold sweat, just from standing here right
        now.
and the chorus is along the lines of "g-d bless my generation, g-d bless my
generation,  g-d bless my generation now."
now i'm going to sit and think up songs that ig should cover.

sari


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sari laufer
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subject:      em's b-day present; billings house

kerry said....

>>>>it would be better to
pick a lesser known organization that might not have the benefit of
national
media exposure and bill clinton backing it...like one of the gay youth
organizations that emily has been involved in or the billings house that
someone suggested.  these controversial organizations could really
benefit
from our financial support and i'm sure emily would appreciate it!
sorry to be the dissenter among the group!  please flame privately!

thanks for listening!  :)
kerry-bo-berry<<<<

hi all -
i originally posted about the billings house.  i think an aids
organization
is an extremely worthy cause.  and the billings house is a small
organization
and helps all ages of people.  in the rock for aids video i saw, it
seemed
like emily was very passionate about this cause.  whether or not the
billings house
needs as much help now than it did in august 96 remains to be seen.  does
anyone
know?  i do understand that we should also keep emily's cares in mind.
if the gay youth
cause would be more important to her, then so be it.  but we should
seriously consider
the billings house.

but, then deb posted......

>>>whether
the money goes to some small grass roots organization in franksville, wi
or
a national cause such as save the music isn't the point. it's that we did
something. it's that we acted.

let emily's gift be decided on in the same manner as amy's: by the list.

deb<<<<<

i agree with deb.  it would be weird to ask amy.  just think about it for
a
minute.  and whatever organization we decide on as a community of
caring people will be great!!!

lisa

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hello,
when are you going to be in my area of northern illinois.
concerned fan.

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the reason i said i wouldn't retract my statement is because i know the
bad booter is alive and well...and i meant no disrespect to the young
man spoken of in susita's post...and that's i have to say...*zips lip
and promises to think twice before posting*

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
"well, okay...let's just say that someone was fleeing from somewhere, looked back at someone, and got turned into a pillar of salt.."-k.c.

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at 02:37 pm 4/15/97 -0500, you wrote:
>lynn wrote:
>>
>>hi everyone,
>>        this question was posted long ago but i thought i would
>>rejuvenate it because i was thinking about it the other day.  what
>>covers would you like to hear the girls sing?  my latest one is
>>"seasons of love" from the rent soundtrack.  beautiful!  also,
>>"wanting memories" by sweet honey in the rock (i think).  any
>>thoughts?
>
>
>funny you should ask.  a few weeks ago, in a flash of inspiration, i
>came up with an interesting concept.  since they did such a fantastic
>job with jesus christ superstar, perhaps they should tackle another
>weber/rice musical: evita.  emily could play evita, amy would make a
>perfect che, michael lorant could play juan peron....  okay, maybe i
>was just delirious. :}
>
>peace,
>fran e.
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the scary thing is a friend and i were saying just the same thing after
their concert in fort worth. anyone else agree? amy could do a great
goodnioght and thank you, and a great the lady's got potential!

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personally, i think them doing "seasons in the sun" would be cooler than
them doing "seasons of love." and i'm a hard-core rent fanatic.
sari

>see what happens when you skim too fast thru the posts?  i read this soooo
>fast, i thought lynn wanted the girls to do a cover of "seasons in the sun"
>(terry jacks tune from the 70's)...i'm like "what?   the girls singing
>"seasons in the sun?"  no way!
>("dough!  seasons *of love*...oh, ok.....")
>
>("we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun,
>but the stars we could reach were just starfish on the beach...")
>
>ahhhhhhhh!
>joni :o)

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sorry for the bandwidth, folks...i had to do it this way...
okay...i got paid today, went out and bought my blanks, got my money
orders and some other stuff (a tweety note pad!..:) )
i'm all organized and ready to go...
david, i received your tape, but i haven't gotten the original yet, and
as soon as i do, i'll have your tape in the mail the next day an you
should receive your boot _within_ the next two weeks at the most..
lisa: i received your book, *huggles* and your money order will be in
the mail tomorrow..
gregg: i have your money order ready to mail tomorrow for the shades cd
robin: i have your money order ready to mail tomorrow for the guitar
bracelet!
thanks to all of you! (and thanks to office depot and best buy and the
post office...:) )

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
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hello again,

as many of you are aware, amy ray appeared in last month's issue of
"atlanta" magazine and i made the offer to pick up copies of the magazine
to anyone interested.  well, some idiot took it upon herself to "take
over" my trades and several of the people who i'd already bought copies
of the magazine for blindly followed her leaving me with a stack of extra
magzines i don't need.  i'm offering them on a first come, first served
basis at the price of $6.00 ($3 to cover the cost of the magazine and $3
to mail them first class).  if you're interested, contact me directly at
sam@intergate.net.

peace,

stacie
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subject:      seasons in the sun

in a message dated 97-04-15 22:19:50 edt, joni said:

<< see what happens when you skim too fast thru the posts?  i read this soooo
fast, i thought lynn wanted the girls to do a cover of "seasons in the sun"
(terry jacks tune from the 70's)...i'm like "what?   the girls singing
"seasons in the sun?"  no way!
("dough!  seasons *of love*...oh, ok.....")
  >>

oh joni, what do you mean.  i'd love to hear em and amy sing seasons in the
sun. really, i love that song, makes me cry everytime.   with emily singing
it i might just have a complete melt down.   : )

no i'm not kidding, really.

then i'd like to hear amy sing institutionalized by suicidal tendencies just
to bring me back up.    really, does anyone know this song, and if so, tell
me that some of her soc's didn't sound an awful lot like this song.   i think
amy has been influenced by more of this type of music than just the
replacements.

i'm not kidding here either.

: )   harry

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subject:      au concert ticket, maybe

hey all,
due to the great kindness of someone at work-- i may have an extra ticket to
the au concert to give away. i guess i would like it to go to someone from
the local area, as no one should have to be in the same city as an indigo
girls concert & not be able to go. so, if there is someone local who has no
ticket, email me & i'll tell you the deal.
thanks,
alexandra

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hey y'all, i was just talking about this with good ol' lisa s.  we both
(maybe we're not the only ones) think that the billings house is a great
charity to donate to in honor of emily's b-day.
the billings house, for those of you who didn't take joni up on her very
generous boot offer a little while back (*grin*), is a hospice that is to
be based in atlanta for people infected with aids.  emily (among others)
was part of a fundraising effort for the billings house sometime last
year, rock for aids 2.  she explained that it was going to be about a 50
bed hospice, the largest in the u.s., for patients (men, women, and
children) who are in the last stage of the disease.  they were going to
provide nutritional care, spiritual guidance, legal advice, etc.  (i know
that they had picked a location at the time of the benefit and had hoped
to open by the beginning of this year, hopefully you local atlanta people
know more details.)
anyway, i know that both lisa and i, and i'm sure many of you, think that
this is a great cause. although, ideally, i would love to have whatever
money we raise go to every charity that emily supports, i feel that this
is very serious issue, where it basically boils down to being an everyday
struggle between life and death, and our support would mean a great deal
to not only emily, but also to those who are personally, courageously
fighting this disease.
lisa originally posted this idea, and i just wanted to reitterate it
because i thought it warranted it, and see what y'all think of it.

thanks,
veronica


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<<<<sniped..a lot of great info!>>>>>

i try to never have a me too post, but i think that this would be a great
place to put our money and support.  this is such and important cause and
our money would indeed mean a great deal to many people.  emily has touched
each of our lives, lets try to enrich the lives of others in return!:)

peace all
tucker

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in defense of the girls' dressing room rider...it may sound demanding, but
i can assure you that by music biz standards, it's pretty modest.  a lot
of artists have a lot of wacky requests for their dressing room.  i remember
touring the pyramid in memphis a few years ago and touring the dressing rooms
backstage, etc.  the tour guide told us that many acts, (neil diamond was
the only one i could remember offhand, though), require in their rider that
their dressing rooms be painted a have certain color or colors, certain kinds of
plants, furniture, carpeting, audio-visual equipment, etc. etc. etc.  i used to
work with a girl who at one time had done merchandising (selling t-shirts, etc.
at concerts) for several country music acts, and she told me basically the
same thing.  my only thought was, "god, how silly to require a venue to
paint the room a certain color for just that night, fill the room with all this
specific style furniture, etc."  i just thought it was really excessive.
but, the girls' rider sounds pretty modest.  after reading the rider,
(which some people will no doubt feel was too personal to be posted here...but
that i thought offered some interesting insights), i have a few impressions.
1)  if i were in their band, i think i would prefer to order a pizza or
something<g>  and 2)  with all that bottled water, coke, tea, spritzer, etc.,
my eyeballs would *really* be floating... :o)

peace,

joan :-d

btw - in the rider it says that no nabisco products should be purchased.
does anyone know what's up with that?  i mean, i know rjr nabisco is one
of the big, evil tobacco companies, but i was just wondering if there is
another reason people should avoid their products.

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got quite a chuckle over the rider, but....

what??????

they don't want large bread?  and, you didn't have to make sure all the
olives had "little guys" inside?

and, i see a disturbing lack of quality cheese products...

um, not certain on the nabisco thing for whoever asked, but i know they
used to be on the afl/cio boycot list for anti-union activity (i haven't
seen one in a while).  also, i seem to recall something about eco-damage
or exploiting third world labor, etc...

never work in profesional politics as a research person, you find too
many companies that make products you like but whose political action
committees give to bad, evil people like sens. "not dead yet!" (helms and
thurmond) or campaign against things like, say, the minimum wage increase
last year. (snapple-pac wrote quite a large check to the jesse helms
re-election effort last year.  dave thomas (of wendy's) and his wife are
two of the largest individual contributors to operation rescue and
anti-choice pacs, and just about every restaurant chain in america was
active in opposing the minimum wage increase last year through lobbying
and big ol'checks...

we now return you to your regularly scheduled feel good stuff.

peace,
bill

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i'll just post the set list for now...i'm busy digesting my first ig live
experience! :)

--tamara :)

1. thin line
2. get out the map
3. reunion
4. caramia
5. shame on you
6. power of two
7. shed you skin
8. it's alright
9. cut it out
10. mystery
11. hey kind friend
12. least complicated
13. scooter boys
14. everything in its own time
15. chickenman
16. galileo
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1. tried to be true
2. bury my heart...
3. closer to fine

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subject:      penn state highlights

2:33am.  here is what i remember.

- lift was really cool.
- relatively crappy crowd.  not a lot of dancing.
- during power of two, amy and emily gave each other
  looks of endearment.  it was very touching.
- amy's new songs (i.e. shed your skin, cut it out,
  and scooter boys) were all pretty frightening, yet,
  really energy filled and cool.
- amy couldn't get mystery right.  it brough a needed
  amusement to the stage.
- mystery and hey kind friend back to back was beautiful.
- "everything in it's own time" kicked ass.
- the question and answer period with emily was great also.
- the amount of strings that amy broke in one night was
  greater than the number of hours they played, hence,
  breaking strings at a rate much greater than one and hour,
  sometimes at once every 5 mintues.   :)
- tried to be true was much needed, espcially with the drums.
- the drive home was long, but we made it!

ok, so, it's a biased review, but, hey.....  :)
ya'll have a nice night.
renee

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please, please also send me any info anyone might have about the two
likely venues, the greek and the red rocks or where ever they may be
playing...

this info may be useful to others on the list...thanks!

seona

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mediancat wrote:
>
> ok, so there are now unofficial dates for shows in berkley (greek theatre
> or shoreline amplitheatre) and red rocks.  since last year, i have been
> tentatively planning to try to see the indigo girls in either or both of
> these places.  since i have never attended concerts at either of them
> before, i was wondering if someone could give me an idea about the capacity
> and seating.  are they both always festival seating and approx. how many
> people do they seat?  are they always sell-outs for the girls?
>
> any pertinent info would be muchly appreciated.
>
> thanks a heap!
> betsy

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reply-to:     karrie!! <k645501b@edinboro.edu>
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ok, so whatif it is 3:15 in the morning?

so what if i just got home from state college?

so what if i have class in six hours?

i don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!  i am on this incredibly awesome indigo girl high!!!!

the psu concert was great.....so, god, and i know this sounds corny, but so
magical.  i started writing down the set list, and after "chickenman", i
became totally lost in the moment....so tamara, the list is up to you!!  ;)

anyway, we all met outside pre-show, and it was great to meet you all.  we
chatted a while, compared ig concert trips, and some people signed the card
for the girls that, unfortunately, no one on the security level would give to
them....why, i have no clue...i mean, it's not like it was hate mail or a bomb or anything, but, rules are rules!  ;)

anyway, lift opened.  they were good.  maybe not something i would rush out
and buy, but they were definately listenable.  they played for about 45
minutes, then there was an intermission, and finally a&e took to the stage.

they opened with "thin line" and within a minute into the song, our dear amy
broke a string.  for allwho have seen "watershed", we all know this is
nothing new! ;)  but, much to my humor, i think because it just descibes the
differences in all aspects of amy and emily, amy managed to break three more
strings before night's end.  one during an incredibly passionate rendition
of "cut it out" which was so raw and powerful my hair stood on end, and 2
during "bury my heart at wounded knee."

the chemistry was there tonight too.  first of all, there was no band behind
them except for the encore when lift joined them for "tried to be true" and
"bury my heart......"  it was just the girls, acoustic, and changing those
various stringed instruments all the time.  banjos, mandolins, dulcimers,
electric guitars, acoustic guitars....it was just an awesome acoustic
experience....  my favorite part of the whole show was as they were just
leading onto "mystery."  amy couldn't get her guitar in tune, and it took
the girls three or four tries to finally get it going...it was so intimate
to see them be raw and a little "un-perfect."  i think it was a great
reminder to all of us that even those we sometimes see as "perfect" are
just as human as all of us, and every one can have a crazy moment.
emily showed this again with a brief question and answer she did while amy
was tuning her guitar for "chickenman."  when someone asked her what the
chistening part of "mayetery meant, she smiled and said "well...that song is
about a fucked up relationship..."  and then went on to explain it was
about the entire symbolism of the song......there was definately an intimacyy
with the crowd this evening.

well, i need to crash.....again, manymany thanks to tamara for organizing our
get together pre-show, and it was nice to see gabrielle, renee, terri, and
all others there...(sorry if i don't remember names...it is late and my
mind is scatterbrained at this moment!  ;)

peace, love and ig dreams to all.....

karrie

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hello!

just wanted to give everyone some info about what i found browsing the
web.  pretty much every one knows that if you want "official" ig info,
to go to the epic center http on the www (you can do this best with the
yahoo search engine and type "indigo girls", or type
http://indigogirls.com),... but did you also know...that sony music
(ec's mama) has a lot of info (even some promoting their new album) that
is not clearly (if at all) linked on their epic center's web page?  try
this...you may need about 45 minutes to 1 hr to browse through most of
the stuff...

1) go to  http://www.sony.com/music/

2) scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the the button
"search sony music"

3)  actually type in your search "indigo girls" (note: using the quick
pick/list alpha under "i" will result in the epic center's web page).

4)  look up all of them and definitely, don't miss the bio.  (if you get
stuck using the "back" space button of your software, try using the "go"
command at the very top of your screen to take you back to the "research
results".)

==>you just searched for any indigo girls web info within sony's data
base.  the list of search results actually list some old sites (sony
even named them "oldsite").  most of these still function and have
interviews of rop (rites of passage) and so (swamp ophelia).
==>do not be easily persuaded to quit,  have patience with some of the
cites that say that there is no info available.  i was able to get
around that by always going back to the list of search results.
==>also, if you get stuck at epic center/records, use your "go" command
at the top of your window, and drag down to the search results.
==>for those who can figure out how to use the avi and other plug-ins to
run movies and audio, you can actually listen to them in a part of an
interview (i think it was on one of their "oldsites").  even you ferran
fans can find at least one connecting site to ferran.
==>with one or two of the sites, the girls even go through some of the
songs and give their insights and significance to them...it's cool!

also, some of the sotc stuff is here.  you can actually click on some of
the images and get a mini-video of the...dolls.  it's really cute!

have a blast!! and sorry this was so long...
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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subject:      gotm wav / i hate aol!!!!!!!!!!!

ok gang, here's the deal.  i was *trying* to send out the clip to everyone i
got notes from yesterday (4/14)  but while i was sending, *%$*( aol locked up
on me.  if you haven't received your copy of the wav yet, please e-mail me &
let me know.  there were so *many* of you!!!!!  :)  i was thrilled!!!!!!  you
guys are really gonna love this wav.

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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was anyone else really disappointed the letters on the new t-shirts do not
glow in the dark? ;(

kristina

go look at the letters (with the lights on), they look like they will. they
don't. sigh. it would have fit the "velvet elvis" look too.

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me again,

i read somewhere - can't remember where - that kd lang is recording
'helpless' for a new joni mitchell tribute album (can't wait for that).
wondered if anyone knew anything about this - could we hope to see a&e on
there somewhere?  i'd love to hear a properly recorded version of em doing
'for free'...

incidently, when the 'joni & daughter reunited' story broke over here, i
thought it was interesting to read that her daughter traced her via her web
page...the power of the net, huh?

seffy
....who now has fish named sejarez (thanks bon), galileo and
..yes...chickenfish... ;)

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hi there,

just been looking through the sony site as discovered by seona, and
voila!  a list of causes supported by the girls:

http://www.music.sony.com/music/test/theoutsideworld/indigogirls/links.html

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subject:      i'm new, too! =)

hi!  how are ya'll?  my name is katie, and i am a 17 year old indigo girls
fan... i have been listening to ya'll chat for quite a few months now--and i
just wanted to jump right in!  i'm kind of disappointed this week because my
friend was going to get us tickets to chastain park (actually i live in
athens)...but we didn't get them and i was disappointed cause i have never
seen emily and amy in concert.

i also have a story for kid fears-- my sister attends agnes scott college
outside of atlanta, and the story goes that amy wrote that song for those
girls....when it says "pain from pearls...hey, little girl, how much have you
grown?"  the agnes scott gals were considered "pearls" because they were
"clean".... also, they said that amy was dating someone who went to agnes
scott, and her girlfriend got kicked out of school because of it (you know
how people are).  anyway...i think now the school regrets it (who
wouldn't!).... just an interesting tidbit to share with you.

thanks for letting me spend time with ya'll!  hope to hear from you soon!

love,
katie =)

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wondering if anyone got to boot the psu show (feather?) ... when i saw thin
line on the set list, i knew i had to inquire.  please post or e-mail me
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hi all,

just been looking at the ig on the sony site as seona so kindly pointed
us too and found this:

                   resources

                   women's action for new directions (wand)
                   691 massachusetts ave.
                   arlington, ma 02174
                   617/643-6740
                   e-mail wand@world.std.com

                   hand gun control, inc.
                   1225 i st., nw
                   washington, d.c. 20005
                   202/898-0792
                   e-mail hci@cais.com

                   honor the earth campaign
                   p.o. box 75423
                   st. paul, mn 55101
                   800/327-8407
                   website address is http://www.honorearth.com

                   national commission for democracy in mexico
                   2001 montana, suite b
                   el paso, tx 79903
                   915/532-8382
                   e-mail moonlight@igc.apc.org

                   sexual minority youth assistance league
                   (smyal)
                   333 1/2 pennsylvania avenue, se, 3rd floor
                   washington, dc 20003
                   202/546-5940
                   e-mail smyal@aol.com

                   parents and friends of lesbians and gays
                   (pflag)
                   1101 14th st., nw, #1030
                   washington, dc 20005
                   202/638-4200
                   e-mail pflagntl@aol.com

                   the center
                   1625 north schrader blvd.
                   los angeles, ca 90028-9998
                   213/993-7400
                   e-mail lagaylesb@aol.com

                   joint artists and music promotions political
                   action committee
                   (jampac)
                   p.o. box 4135
                   seattle, wa 98104-0135
                   800/880-0jam
                   e-mail jampacl@aol.com

                   youth pride
                   863 gilbert st.
                   atlanta, ga 30316
                   404/815-9965

                   coalition of environmental federations
                   1447 peachtree street
                   suite 502
                   atlanta, ga 30309
                   800/230-3369
                   e-mail coal.env.feds@efg.org

cheers,

penelope

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on tue, 15 apr 1997, fran e. wrote:

> emily could play evita, amy would make a perfect che, michael
> lorant could play juan peron....  okay, maybe i was just delirious.

oh, i don't know about that.  emily would be much more enjoyable to
watch and listen to than madonna, y'know.  :)

anna

"i've got two x chromosomes and i'm not afraid to use them."  -ellen degenres


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ok, the song ig could cover that would simply kill me is "everybody
hurts" by rem. this song already tears at my heart everytime i hear it,
if amy were to sing it i would likely drown in my own tears.


peace,

dan perkins
tour guide to the obvious,
post-episodic clairvoyant,
bassist/singer/songwriter.

"and at last the world was finally set free,
the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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on tue, 15 apr 1997, annie wrote:

> emily's b-day gift.......me!!! oh, well...just a thought.

take a number, girl!  ;)

anna

"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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subject:      to put it another way....sorry guys....
in-reply-to:  <pine.sun.3.91.970416062732.893d-100000@crl.crl.com>

amy putnam pointed out something very important to me. so i should
probably send this along to everyone...i'm sorry for using words so
loosely. they can be misinterpreted so easily. = ) especiallly when i'm
the one saying them...

i probably should have thought before i opened my mouth. =  ) i do that
often. see, in my own life, i am not very particular about the whole
"butch/femme" thing. i throw those words around very loosely. i never mean
that just because someone looks a little femme, then she really feels that
way inside. hmmm..this isn't coming out right. maybe what i'm trying to
say is that yes, i will be more careful about how i word things in the
future. i tend to think people are on my wavelength, which is usually
wrong. = )


back to her corner,
liz

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hi

i realize i am a little late responding to this one,  there have been a lot
of digests lately.

i agree that we should figure out what we want to do for emily without any
further contact with russell carters organization and without talking with
amy.  others have said it more eloquently, i just wanted to add my voice.
the donation process for amy's birthday went so smoothly, it made me proud
to be part of the list.  i hope emily's can go just as well.

i understand the high nigc bandwidth when there is no news, but to have it
continue to be so high while they are on the road, it just seems like the
show reviews and igc gets lost in the shuffle.  not trying to censor anyone,
just maybe think twice about posting nigc or possibly save up your responses
to various things and post once a day instead of several times.  by reducing
the number of posts each day it seems like more people would be able to read
what you have to say because they would not be buried in mail.

have a good day

carolyn

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sorry it's the 11th hour--does anybody out there have an extra wheaton
ticket or know of anyone who does?  (hi liz!)

thanks!
back to lurking
"that's what being eccentric means--being natural."
--lorraine hansberry

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              required back stage stuff from the rider)

bill wrote:
>
>dave thomas (of wendy's) and his wife are two of the largest
>individual contributors to operation rescue and anti-choice pacs,

well, i guess i'll never eat at wendy's again, for the same reason i
won't order domino's pizza....  does anyone know where to find out what
companies support operation rescue and anti-choice pacs?  maybe there's
a web site that lists them or something?

thanks y'all,
fran e.

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eeeeeeekkkkkk!

i thought my days of watching tiny, twirling dolls was long gone. it took me ten years to recover from that abc movie of the week, trilogy of terror. anyone remember that gem? now the sots dollies are twirling, jumping, closing and opening their little eyes. oh my god!! this has to been a sign of the end times! ;-)

spooky as hell, my friends!

no peace for me tonight,

susan

"turn it around, mommie! it's staring at me!" - me, at 5 yrs., with a tina two-steps giant doll menacing me in my bedroom.

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subject:      re: *etheridge* truck and car names

in a message dated 97-04-15 22:30:13 edt, sleigh wrote:

<< the first car i owned was an orange 1977 nova (the great pumpkin).  i
broke
the cassette player by playing my melissa etheridge tape over and over.  the
previous owner had been a little old lady that drove to the grocery store
and
back >>

hmmm....how interesting.  my first car was a 78 nova...but it was silver (the
silver bullet).  i killed the car driving too fast on a faulty carburetor,
bad seals, and 2 cylinders that weren't firing :(.  i killed the tape player
on a friend's metallica tape while driving too fast on a faulty carburetor,
bad seals, and 2 cylinders that weren't firing.

as far as naming pooh's truck....what better name for a 4x4 than brave n
crazy?  god knows you do some brave and crazy shit in a 4x4....

just my $.03
(i had to add sales tax)

dawn

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subject:      whoopsie!

sorry all....that last post was meant to go to the melissa list....dammit, i
hate when i can't remember which list i was gonna post to!

jeez i feel like an ass now!

dawn

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> as far as naming pooh's truck..
is someone buying me a truck???
cooll..my jeeps' about dead anyhoo
pooh

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subject:      emory+chapel hill boots (fwd)

>
>     hi all,
>      here is once again the tree for the emory and chapel hill
boots that carolyn generously offered me to share with the list.
> ok. the boots are
> 1) emory university,decatur,ga march 23,1989
> closer to fine/secure yourself/crazy game/nashville/summertime/prince of
> darkness/land of canaan/welcome me//make it easier/hand me downs/blood
> and fire/the girl with the weight of the world in her hands/southland int
> the springtime/kid fears/cold as ice/white house blues/holy city/sweet
> home alabama w/blosssd and fire/love of the common people
>
> 2) chapel hill, north carolina, november 13,1987
> cold as ice/make it easier/lifeblood/pushing the needle too far/crazy
> game/thin line/nashville/left me a fool/no way to treat a friend/blood
> and fire//hey jesus/land of canaan/never stop/white house blues/you left
> it up to me/strange fire/all along the watchtower
>  the branches are
> aries        jen         jkim3467@uriacc.uri.edu
> taurus       maureen     hudsonvu@aol.com
> gemini       kyle        x20kyle@aol.com
> cancer       liz         bregalad@zipcon.net
> leo          steve       stevem712@aol.com
> virgo        mary        maryg@diac.com
> libra        jen         jlucero@mail.monmouth.com
> scorpio      alexandra   aaogilvie@aol.com
> sagittarius  melissa     contact@atl.mindspring.com
> capricorn    z           zeylim@rpi.edu
> aquarius     susan       oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu
> pisces       lisa        nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu
> fill-in      jan         janinsdale@aol.com
> hoping there aren't too many flubs or blunders with the addys, i am the
> one you should contact if any problems arise :) pj the admin.
> the shows can be dubbed on two 90 min. cassettes. enjoy!
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load 'em up..move 'em out!!!!( by sat..ok?)

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along the same lines but not exactly...cracker barrel restaurants are
extremely anti-gay.

rachel

on wed, 16 apr 1997, robert and frances egan wrote:

> bill wrote:
> >
> >dave thomas (of wendy's) and his wife are two of the largest
> >individual contributors to operation rescue and anti-choice pacs,
>
> well, i guess i'll never eat at wendy's again, for the same reason i
> won't order domino's pizza....  does anyone know where to find out what
> companies support operation rescue and anti-choice pacs?  maybe there's
> a web site that lists them or something?

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i rem,ember it now they have trilogy of terror 2 and the doll is back


on wed, 16 apr 1997, susan tomlinson wrote:


> eeeeeeekkkkkk!
>
> i thought my days of watching tiny, twirling dolls was long gone. it took me ten years to recover from that abc movie of the week, trilogy of terror. anyone remember that gem? now the sots dollies are twirling, jumping, closing and opening their little eyes. oh my god!! this has to been a sign of the end times! ;-)
>
> spooky as hell, my friends!
>
> no peace for me tonight,
>
> susan
>
> "turn it around, mommie! it's staring at me!" - me, at 5 yrs., with a tina two-steps giant doll menacing me in my bedroom.
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is there anyone on here who's going from center city to the la salle show
friday?  i have a problem:  since the weather's presumably not going to
be great, my friend (who lives out of town and has the car...) might not
want to go to the show.  so if there's anyone who might be able to get me
there in case i end up without a ride, i'd _so_ appreciate it!

please email me...

deb the *stranded* indigeek

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oooooh,...there was a club dedicated to my person and i didn't
know it!! (: life's strange... :)

*interview (i think it was on one of their "oldsites").  even you
*ferran fans can find at least one connecting site to ferran. ==>with
*one or two of the sites, the girls even go through some of the

well, i'll accept monica's theory that you meant ferron and not
ferran. (in fact, there's a little difference: she's a woman and i'm a
boy, and she knows the ig in person, and i only in dreams)

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"beat me up               |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv          |      & monica soutto
to help me look for                          |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"       | universitat politecnica de
valencia        k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(..still spain but not for too long )europe
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>along the same lines but not exactly...cracker barrel restaurants are
extremely anti-gay.


> >
> >dave thomas (of wendy's) and his wife are two of the largest
> >individual contributors to operation rescue and anti-choice pacs,
>
> well, i guess i'll never eat at wendy's again, for the same reason i
> won't order domino's pizza....  does anyone know where to find out what
> companies support operation rescue and anti-choice pacs?  maybe there's
> a web site that lists them or something?

does anyone know of any junk food companies that support
homosexual/abortion rights?

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        hi y'all,

        i thought i'd add my comments to those already said...first, sorry i
missed the pre-show meet by the shrine but i was having too much fun
hanging around the back side of the venue <g>...
        second, tamara already posted the set list...were you writing it down??
good job!!
        moving right along....

        lift, who is julie clark, simone simonton, molly bancroft, and david
patterson, rocked.  they played right through the talking audience and
enjoyed themselves...definitely a good addition to anybody's collection
(just my opinion of course)

        the girls came out right on time...fashion report for those
interested...well, i could give two, cause they changed after dinner....
        show attire...e: blue overalls, black/white l/s shirt and red doc
marteens...and dark blue nail polish...
        a: white jeans (the ink spot ones), black/blue/white striped oxford, black
tee (couldn't figure out all the words) and combat boots...no nail polish...

        they were in quite a happy mood...and weren't expecting such a large turn
out.  on a side note...security was quite professional at the show...except
when the student volunteers tried to enforce reserved seating after
8pm...that was rather funny...

        i'll go briefly through the set list and touch on some interesting things...:
thin line...rocked and there's a new and more complicated em solo in it
shame on you...the first string break of the night...
pot..."sing along"...amy came in early on "steel bars"...causing a look
then grin from both...emily also
        had fun over-emphasizing some words ;)
sys...had most of the audience confused...but at least they weren't talking
(near me)

        two things of note happened before the next song...they restated they'll
be touring with a band this summer (shed was a little rough)...and they
brought out two rainbow colored basketballs...emily gave a little info on
how the women's basketball team is embroiled in a sexual discrimination
controversy.  em then tossed one into the crowd..."solidarity for the
women's team...whether straight or gay..."

cut it out...second broken string...clearest version of the song i've heard
to date  (yes i have the lyrics;))
        lots of tuning again going on...em stated they were trying to be more
"professional"
        then as filler there was the student/non-student, and david duchovny poll,
then moved onto x-      files (they saw an episode on the bus the other night),
then parallel universes..."that was the end     of that"  emily ended.
mystery...took four starts to get it right...rather humorous, but i think
amy was getting a little annoyed        (they had two guitar techs running around
this time)

        next was the q&a session while amy's guitar was set up for
chickenman...the christening of the ship was indeed about "fucked up
relationships"...about "violent action" and the "beauty of the christening
event".  then someone asked what amy's tattoo meant, and she replied "it's
been so long...when i was young and foolish".  then she added she had just
gotten a new tattoo that day..."painful...but i almost fell asleep at the
end..."

chickenman...added a buzzard verse to it this time...broke another
string...or two <g>
ttbt...with lift...amy stated they had a new cd out and that the audience
should buy it..."positive       capitalism"...to which emily replied, "yeah
they're on amy's label..."
bmhawk...the road manager hopped in to play harmonica, and molly from lift
sang "jerry's" part...and       yet another string broken...


        after the show there was a great show of force behind the venue by psu
security...and while everyone was focused on watching the tour bus (the big
teal-colored one for those interested) the girls hopped into a non-descript
car and blew by the waiting fans....emily did open the window and say
thanks while waiting at the stop sign...and some not so smart fans got a
little crazy and chased after the car.

        well, that's it...i didn't get home until 5am...but of course it was worth
it!!!

                jen

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okay. i'm still speechless. which is probably a good thing, 'cause i
couldn't talk right now if i had to...so, penn state. okay. bear with me.
i'm running on like two hours of sleep...(three hour drive, and an eight
o'clock class...but it was all beyond worth it...)

here we go. lift was pretty good, but, as my best friend said...i'm not
paying to see them. needless to say, she was a little impatient. but they
were good...seemed a bit cranberries-esque to me...anyone else notice
that?

so then...out come the girls. just...oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy... a lot of
the songs they played, like thin line, and bury my heart, and tried to be
true, and reunion, i never thought i'd get a chance to see live...and i'm
so thankful i did. they were absolutley amazing. incredible. just
fantatstic. and i had breought someone wit me who didn't really know much
ig music...(basically *least complicated*, *galileo*, and *closer to
fine*) she's now on a hunt to get all of their cd's...and, the whole
concert, she kept staring at them with this totally amazed look on her
face and saying *that blonde one sings like an angel*. damn skippy...

so anyway, it was an absolutely amazing concert, and a lot of people were
very considerate of us vertcially challenged folk. there were however,
this large group of girls that managed to be the fly in the ointment of
pretty much everyone arouund them. i ahd no problem with the fact that the
only thing they knew was *least complicated*...we were all new once. but
they were so rude, and they had absolutely no consideration for anyone
else. there were large signs that said *no smoking* as we walked into rec
hall, and apparently, these girls were blind or illiterate. now, i smoke,
but i was willing to go without because i had been asked not to  by the
signage, and for the comfort of others. no problem. but my friend is
allergic to smoke, and was forced to inhale a good deal of secondhand from
these girls...and i was burned on the leg three times. when i asked them
to please stop smoking, i got a nasty look and an attitude. these same
girls were the ones who pushed through everyone on the floor, knocking
people over, and blatantly shoving people out of their spots. in fact,
these three really sweet guys, turning around, and seeing that my two
friends and i were a good deal shorter than they were, switched places
with us so that we could stand in front of them. very sweet. (wherever you
are, thank you oodles and oodles...) anyway, as soon as these guys moved
aside to let us through, this group of eight girls shoved us aside and
pushed their way up to the front. it was a rather rude awakening for me...
and i fel t bad. i had coached all of my friends that the people at ig
concerts were all pretty much like those sweet guys who let us ahead, and
then their first exposure was to these, (forgive my language but there's
really no better term) bitches. i just hope this isn't the face of the ig
fan to come...i was really disappointed in their behavior. anyone else
have a problem like that one last night?

and one more question...please, please, please, tell me tha someone booted
the concert!!! i had planned on it, but silly me forgot and left my
recorder in the car. if you booted the show, please email me...i don't
have any ig boots, but i'd be perfectly willing to trade any of my dmb or
pink floyd boots...let me know. takhanks in advance...

meg

*mystery is about a fucked up relationship...*
                        -emily saliers-

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this is not an ig org. nor do i want to further the 'worthy cause' debate
:)  i just though some of you would be interested in checking out some of
these events! i haven't had a chance to look through the home pages listed
so if you find anything really worthwhile please let me know!
       :)  trisha

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1. alexis herman confirmation
2. "choose to laugh, laugh to choose" comedy event
3. feminist majority foundation news releases
4. sexual assault awareness month

1. the senate committee on labor and human relations has voted unanimously
to confirm alexis herman as u.s. secretary of labor.  a full vote in the
senate has been delayed.  use our take action section at
http://www.feminist.org/action/1_action.html to contact your senators today to
urge immediate confirmation of alexis herman, a uniquely qualified
individual for this position.

2. on may 12, the feminist majority foundation will host the first east
coast "choose to laugh, laugh to choose" comedy event to benefit the
feminist majority foundation's national clinic defense project.  comics from
both coasts are donating their talents, including betsy salkind, rene hicks,
julie goldman, janine di tuilio, carolyn may and passion.  join the feminist
majority foundation, eleanor smeal, and peg yorkin at the improv in
washington, dc for yet-more-proof-that-feminists-do-have-a-sense-of-humor.
tickets are $100.  for more information or to place an ad in the joke
program, contact the feminist majority foundation comedy event team at
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3. ever wonder where to find the feminist majority foundation's position on
an issue?  check out our press release section at
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transfer of mifepristone rights to former roussel uclaf ceo dr. edouard
sakiz, our position on the domestic violence offender gun ban, our support
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find our quarterly newsletter, the feminist majority report, in this
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4. remember - april is sexual assault awareness month.  find hotlines across
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there were other carnegie mellon folk there as well.  the five of us had
an incredible time!!  the show was unbelievable, and i'll echo the
"magical" comments that my fellow tired ig folks had to say last night.
we too made the 3 hour trip to psu, and we sang and had a helluva good
time.

mike

ps:  you really don't know fun until you've had a flock of 12 year olds
curse you out for pushing past them to get closer to the stage.

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well, i just thought i'd say that "it's allright" is spelled that way on
the unh set list.  i know spelling enthusiasts have been upset with "it's
alright," so now you can rest assured that at least someone spells it with
two "l"s.

margaret

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does anyone in the bahhston area know if mix 98.5 are having amy and emily
on the radio tomorrow (thursday)? i was flipping through the radio dials
and i thought i heard the dj say, after playing soy, that ig would be doing
an interview with them???!! can anyone confirm??

also-for those of you who are still hoping to get tickets to mama kin for
the private ig party, i heard that you can still win tickets tomorrow on
98.5m ..so tune in, win, and then tell the rest of us to make us insanelely
jealous! :)

therese :)

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if i were going to recommend a book to ig, or anyone else, it would be
illusions (the adventures of a reluctant messiah). this is by the same
guy who wrote jonathan livingston seagull (another great book). i have
read illusions probably 10 times. it's a wonderful book and an easy
read.

a book that's not quite so inspirational, but work reading (if you can
find it) is p.s. your cat is dead, by james kirkwood. kirkwood
co-authored a chorus line. he also wrote a couple of really great books
(p.s. ycid, good times bad times).

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dan perkins
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post-episodic clairvoyant,
bassist/singer/songwriter.

"and at last the world was finally set free,
the animals all hung out and interacted fretlessly
and the world began to vibrate with such a deep tonality
the day the bass players took over the world."
                         -emily kaitz

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here's the latest from the greek theater mailing list:

indigo girls
wednesday, 2 july at 7:30pm
$29.75 / $27.75 / $19.75
on-sale sunday, 20 april at 10:00am
also available as part of the greek theatre premiere club.


the sony site is also listing a july 3 concert, which will probably go on
sale when this one sells out.


on your mark, get set....

alison

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ok, so my sister was supposed to get us both tickets for the great woods show
(which just so happens to be on my birthday in case you wondered...),
but the operative words here are "supposed to." didn't quite pan out the
way we had planned.  and by now i'm sure that all the pavillion seats
they have undoubtedly suck.  soooooooo...what i'm wondering is if
anyone who's going by any wild chance in some sort of hell bought two
extra ones?!?  anyone?!?  if so, please email me privately...and know
that you will be worshipped by me forever........

anyway, take care,
lesley

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<psa>
somebody posted the e-mail address for the capricorn branch of this tree
as :
zeylim@rpi.edu

this is incorrect. i cannot guarantee recieving any
message sent to that address. the correct adddress is:
mike_z@bigfoot.com
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        -z

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|technology is indistinguish- |with mine in any way, shape or form, i pity |
|able from a rigged demo.     |them greatly.                               |
| - andy finkel, computer guy |                                            |
+----------------------  http://www.rpi.edu/~zeylim  ----------------------+

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y'all-
help help help!!!!!!!!!
i'm guessing no one recieved my message from last night but my ride to the
show can't leave until around 4:45 and it takes almost 2 hours to get to
wheaton from our house!
is there any way anyone could save us a place in line??????!!!!!!it would
mean so much!!!!!
i'll be wearing a long white dress to my ankels, a cream patagonia, and
possibly a green hat.  i'm a mere 5'2".  if you get this- e-amil me before
4:30 or if you happen to see me around 6:30-ish (hopefully we'll get there
around the- scream "emily" or "sarah" as loud as you can!!!!!  i promise i'll
keep my ears listening for some amazing kind friend to help me out!  y'all
are awsome!
-emily
ems420@aol.comrubyjoon

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you are better off than the college girl from tcu who asked a 93.3 person
at the fort worth concert..." so now, which one of them is melissa?"
urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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from:   celeste pietrusza [smtp:botany07@aol.com]
sent:   sunday, april 13, 1997 10:37 pm
to:     indigo-girls@netspace.org
subject:        confusion

just a strange little tidbit from the mind of celeste....
     when i first started listening to the indigo girls (i bought swamp
ophelia then rites of passage) i always assumed that amy was emily and vice
versa because emily just always looked tougher, in the majority of the cds
(well, rites of passage, strange fire, i think swamp ophelia too) emily
stands in front of ame, so i thought she'd be more agressive, and amy more
passive, more poetic, but it seems it was the other way around...this took
me
a long long time to get used to

okay now that i have thoroughly confused anyone who read this.....

anyone else think the same, or am i just crazy?  celeste

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...which in turn reminds me of the story of when i went to a rehearsal
for the rites of passage tour out at lakewood ampitheater (in atlanta)
because i won a radio contest, and we were sitting there when between
songs one of the winners from 99.7 (still power 99 then, not yet 99x...)
yelled out "so, where are you guys from?"...and to think of all the
atlantans who weren't let in to this rehearsal...(only 6 winners plus a
guest each were there)

darren

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the ig hotline says that the girls are stopping by the world cafe in philly
on april 19th. does the radio show do live appearances (assuming they mean
the radio show)? i know when they were on in october it was taped a couple
months earlier. i guess that confirms there will be no snl appearance this
weekend.

also they are indeed doing letterman on april 30th -- so saeth the mystery
voice on the other end of the telephone line.

deb

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subject:      re: nigc-paula cole on rosie o.

did anyone else see this? i'm dying to know something about paula's
performance. please email me privately.  thanks.

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should we be surprised by this?

>>wendy's said yesterday that it will not sponsor abc's "ellen" any
longer, citing the network's april 30 "coming out" episode as too
controversial.  although the fast food chain hadn't scheduled
advertising during the show in question, wendy's spokesman denny lynch
said that too much media attention to the lesbian theme of the show
had made it necessary for wendy's to withdraw sponsorship.  "the story
content no longer fits our advertising guidelines, which are primarily
to avoid controversial subjects," he said.  "story lines that could be
controversial or cutting-edge, we would definitely avoid."  alan
klein, a spokesman for the gay and lesbian alliance against defamation
said yesterday that wendy's pullout was a "weaselly way of not be
inclusive.  i think diversity is the bedrock of american culture, and
for corporations to avoid dealing with the fact that gays and lesbians
are part of the rich and diverse culture of american means they are
blinded by their own bigotry."  wendy's is the third advertiser to
pull out of "ellen" so far.  chrysler has stated that it won't
advertise on april 30 and will evaluate sponsorship after that on a
case-by-case basis.  j.c. penny has also said that, if the controversy
keeps up, it will no longer advertise.  (usa today)<<

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subject:      re: confusing the girls

in a message dated 4/14/97 12:58:06 am, you wrote:

<<! i was very
confused, and had it figured in my head that the brunette was emily for a
really long time. thank goodness those days of my newbie confusion are long
gone!>>

        hey y'all--
just a note on this..
my first album was swamp ophelia and while i thought "the dark haired one has
the deep voice and the strawberry blond haired one has the higher voice", i
always thought that emily looked more like an amy.......oh well
lauren-- who is going to see her first concert in june!!!

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        hi again,

        just remembered another thing from the show...

        emily was asked (in the q&a session before chickenman) what the name of
the new album was...she replied "shaming of the sun" (of course...you all
knew that)...but she added...
        "...it's from a tunica legend..."

        i may have gotten the name wrong...but that's the only native american
tribe that even comes close to what she said...any one have any knowledge
of this tribe?  they're technically called the tunica-biloxi tribal nation
and they're regionally located in louisiana.  or did anybody else hear a
different name??


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i have to write a quick note to tell y'all that i'm leaving the list, at
least for awhile.  my life is full of stress and i'm going nuts.  i'm
still doing my loop (loop 4) so don't worry about that...anj, i'm pretty
sure you still have my private @ddy...anyone else i may have forgotten
that i still have business with, write me now or for at least a little
while, hold your peace!!  ;)  i'll miss you, but maybe now i'll really get
to graduate...

:( marianne
the lone coyote

~o~
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/_\     always keep dreaming....and toss your coins in the fountain,
((      look for clovers in grassy lawns,
         search for shooting stars in the night,
         cross your fingers and dream on."
                        --tracy chapman

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subject:      psu show rules!!!

wow...what an excellent first indigo live experience...i feel divinely
touched....i my amyism has grown about 5000% since yesterday--where to
begin....i'm sure someone already posted something like this but i just want
to share

well, i arrived at the psu recreation hall about 6:30, first in line (of
course) but they weren't letting anyone in until 7:00, but as soon as the
doors open everyone flooded in (it was a virtual estrogen-fest), ran down the
bleachers, and into the front....i thought the security guards would make
everyone return to their "assigned seats" but no, i got a nice cozy spot
front and center....

after one hour of bjork (whom i love dearly, but can get on my nerves after
awhile) lift began to play...they were really really good!!!  all three girls
were so little though, the bassist looked really young!! but the simone
drummer girl was really neat--i bought their cd though--it is worth way more
than the $12 i paid for it!!

but on to bigger and better things, like

amy and emily (or emily and amy)

set list (comments follow)
note:  i hadn't heard any of shaming of the sun before yesterday, so if i get
some of these names wrong forgive me!!
1.  thin line
2.  get out the map
3.  reunion
4.  cara mia (beautiful, beautiful)
5.  shame on you (yes, with the banjo)
6.  power of two (big crowd pleaser)
7.  shed your skin
8.  it's alright
9.  cut it out (oh amy why why do you have to be so good?)
10. mystery
11. hey kind friend
12.  least complicated (with a big nanananananna from the crowd)
13. my own virginny??
14.  keeper of my heart (another beautiful one)
brief question and answer period
15.  chickenman
16.  galileo

encore (with lift)
1. tried to be true
2. bury my heart at wounded knee (rocking)
and what show would be complete without...closer to fine

amy played with such passion, those expressions...and emily was such a
darling with her sweet "thanks ya'll."  after each song....and i just looked
behind me to see 7500 smiling indigo faces (all behind me, mind you...) but i
gave amy a belated b-day gift...a jeannette winterson novel (okay, so i am a
little fanatic) and got a guitar pick as a souvineer....a perfect night--i
can't wait for the new cd!!!

peace and love "ya'll"  celestingo <--okay, that doesn't work...

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subject:      what was that again, emily?

random quotes from emily....

q:  "what does the line in mystery about the broken bottle mean?"

a:  "well, it's kind of a dichotomy with the christening and the broken
bottle....mystery is about a fucked up relationship!"

q:  "what's a matter with the girl with the weight of the wait of the world
in her hands?"

a:  "she's fucked up too!"

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subject:      oh, and one more thing...

did anyone else at the penn state show nearly faint (i am trying to put it,
well, tastefully) near the end of the show when amy broke the guitar string
and just kind of ignored the guitar the other guy brought her and grabbed the
mic passionately and just kept singing with the same intensity sans guitar
(during chickenman?? <--i liked the part she added in there, even if i didnt
catch the exact words) i cant wait for my next show!!! celeste

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now you all may laugh at me, but if anyone happens to have any tickets (i.e.
they can't make the show, etc. ) i would be eternally grateful to purchase
them from you for a nice hunk of $$$$. so if anyone happens to have extras,
please e-mail me asap...
i know i am insane for asking...
thanks
   -ray

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right now i'm rockin' to soy on kfog, and there was just an ad saying
they're premiering (for them, i assume) get out the map tomorrow
sometime...


heads up all you san francisco and san jose kids...

love

larissa
one menlo park kid

gosh this song rocks!!!!!

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subject:      lasalle concert

(sorry to those of you whom i whined to already)

might anyone be able to give me and a friend of mine a ride to lasalle on
friday?  we both live in cherry hill, nj.  also i was considering trying to
get some pictures of the concert.  any advice on that?  is it worth it to
bring my slr, generally how bad is the security, and anything else i might
overlook?

west of bishes
shana (jak)

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hey alla y'all, i miss you guys.
hope things are happy in indigoland.  here at the u of wash we just had a
big domestic partnership rights rally and march.  if you weren't there,
too bad, 'cause we rocked!  (tracy? stephanie?  anyone?)  anyway, hope
this isn't too long to post, but if you feel the need to flame, do so
privately b/c i'm no longer subscribed.
also, please be nice to the new birthday goddess.
love,
karey
(13 more days!)

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>
> lesbian and gay couples needed!!
>
> a lesbian and a gay male researcher at the university of maryland are
>conducting a gay-affirmative study of same-sex couples.  this will be
the
>first major study to look at the impact of factors unique to the lgb
>identity process on same-sex relationship functioning.  it will also be
>the first major study to look at a racially-ethnically diverse sample
of
>same-sex couples.
>
> we need your help in finding possible participants.  if you or anyone
you
>know of might be willing to participate, please contact us or pass
along
>this message.  (our contact info is below.)  what follows is
information
>about participating in the study:
>
> people who participate must be in a relationship that has lasted at
least
>3 months.  also, we are focusing on people who identify (at least
>partially) as lesbian or gay (as opposed to primarily identifying as
>bisexual).  both members of each couple are sent questionnaires to
>complete.  questionnaires are returned separately in stamped return
>envelopes.  all responses are completely confidential and anonymous. we
>are eager to hear from couples of a variety of ages, race/ethnicities,
>income levels, communities, outlooks etc.
>
> when questionnaires are received from both partners of a couple, they
are
>automatically entered into a lottery to win prizes from national and
local
>lgb-affirmative businesses.
>
> i would greatly appreciate any help that you could offer us in our
>efforts.  if you are in a relationship and would like to participate,
just
>e- mail glenna chang. also, if you know of any couples that might
>participate, it would be great if you could pass our message on or
allow
>us to send you some questionnaires to distribute.  finally, if you are
on
>any appropriate mailing lists, it would be super if you could forward
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hey!  this is my first time writing in, so i must first say how much i love
being a part of this list!  a few friends and myself are planning to go to
great woods for the june 6th show but so far we're ticketless!!  if anyone
could please share anything they know about getting tickets to the concert,
or if by chance they have ones they aren't using...  i would be extremely
grateful.  i haven't had a chance to go see the girls since the roseland
concert in nyc.  that brings another question.  are there any boots out
there from that show?  thanks in advance... from what i know of the people
on the list i've got nothing but new friends across the nation. :)  you can
send responses directly to me @: jbubka@vt.edu

your new friend~bubka
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at 05:37 on 4/17/97, jen lucero wrote:
>        hi again,
>
>        just remembered another thing from the show...
>
>        emily was asked (in the q&a session before chickenman) what the name of
>the new album was...she replied "shaming of the sun" (of course...you all
>knew that)...but she added...
>        "...it's from a tunica legend..."
>
>        i may have gotten the name wrong...but that's the only native american
>tribe that even comes close to what she said...any one have any knowledge
>of this tribe?  they're technically called the tunica-biloxi tribal nation
>and they're regionally located in louisiana.  or did anybody else hear a
>different name??

you're right, jen...to confirm what you said...

emily said "...it's called shaming of the sun. the title comes from a native
american legend of the tunica tribe."

:) tamara
tmg123@psu.edu

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in a message dated 4/16/97 3:11:17 pm, you wrote:

<<hi all,

just been looking at the ig on the sony site as seona so kindly pointed
us too and found this:
...
                   sexual minority youth assistance league
                   (smyal)
                   333 1/2 pennsylvania avenue, se, 3rd floor
                   washington, dc 20003
                   202/546-5940
                   e-mail smyal@aol.com
>>

i know i said it before, but to see that there is official support for smyal
just rocks....i'm biased...so i won't tell you that i serve with them on a
coalition in this area and how badly they need money for a building....

anyhoo...be good to emily, and all the glbt youth of dc/va/md and beyond...
(give $$:)
and anyone in the above area, come on out to youth pride day!!!! 12-5:30 in
dupont circle...hope to see you there....
((i'll be speaking at 2 or so about my parents...say hi!!))
kate

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don't get me started on "rent"! i missed the open call in nyc because
i'm stuck here in a cultural desert.  *pout*
  amyray, wouldn't amy rock on "glory". how about a emily doing "over the
moon".  i feel another ig musical theatre project coming on:)
ben

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subject:      bragbragbrag!!!  i'm going to mama kin's!!!

hi all!

just had to be a brat and brag my little butt off!  one of my nearest and
dearest friends, who shall henceforth be known as the goddess maria
(third only to amy and emily), got us on the sony guest list for the
event.  so not only do i get to go to this incredible show, i'm also
going to the meet and greet prior to the show.

i'm so excited!!!

i've promised maria that i *will* behave myself.  no precipitous marriage
proposals will leave my lips.  actually, it's very likely that nothing
coherent will leave my lips.  and on that note, does anyone have any
advice on how to handle meeting a & e and still behave like a reasonably
sane and intelligent adult?

sorry 'bout my complete and utter lack of self control, but i just had to
share!

tuesday's child
charter member - yknib ssim fan club

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  question: what is operation rescue?
ben

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subject:      my memoir, and my unecessary violence over ig...

for english we have to write a memoir of an experience in my life,
sooo... i picked the only thing interesting, my experience at newport
last year!!!  so how exactly do i put into words how amazing newport
was (i think i might have to have emily's command over words to write
that!)?
    funny thing happened on the way to school.  so i pop into the tape
player one of my numerous ig mixes.  so my dad starts to say after a
few songs (ghost, pushing the needle...,i don't wanna know) that they
all sound exactly the same.
me: "how could you say that!  they do not sound the same!"
dad: "do too."
me: "do not."
dad:"dooooo tooooo."
me: "doooo noooot!"
dad: "i also think that indigo girls fans can't take criticism."
me:"we can too!"
dad: "no you can't."
me: (pummels her dad with her puny fists) cannnn toooo!!!
(dad drives car into a ditch, police find car in ditch with radio still
playing, "secure yourself", all passengers survived.  police notice
that on the dashboard is a guitar pick that says, a+e=ig.  disaster
averted by the holy goudas.)

okay, so everything was real up until the ditch part.  sorry for the
waste of space.
peace, love, and lingonberry filled brie,
leah

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: from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
: while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
: return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an
: additional verse.  here is the whole song, "return to pooh corner".

:
: return to pooh corner
:
: christopher robin and i walked along
: under branches lit up by the moon.
: posing our questions to owl and eeyore
: as our days disappeared all too soon.
: but i've wandered much further today than i should
: and i can't seem to find my way back to the wood.
:
: so, help me if you can i've got to get
: back to the house at pooh corner by one.
: you;d be surprized there's so much to be done,
: count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky.
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh.
:
: winnie the pooh doesn't know what to do,
: got a honey jar stuck on his nose.
: he came to me asking help and advice
: and from here no one knows where he goes.
: so i sent him to ask of the owl if he's there,
:  how to loosen a jar from the nose of a bear.
:
: so, help me if you can i've got to get
: back to the house at pooh corner by one
: you'd be surprized there's so much to be done,
: count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,


it's hard to explain how a few percious things
seem to follow throughout all our lives.
after all's said and done i was watching my son
sleeping there with my bear by his side.
so i tucked him in, i kissed him and as i was going,
i swear that ol' bear whispered boy, welcome home
believe me if you can i've finally come
back to the house at pooh corner by one
what do you know there's so much to be done
count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky .
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,
: back to the days of christopher robin,
: back to the ways of pooh.

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mornin' y'all :))))
just thought i'd give an update to all 69 of you going to the auburn show
on april 25th.  i actually received the tickets today, which is earlier
than we had feared, and they will go out to those who sent me sases or made
arrangements for them to be sent.  i will hold the rest and give them to
you before the show, i guess.  our seats are remarkably good, considering
how remarkably bad the arena is.  we are in the first permanent section,
off to the amy side of the stage.  we are a little spread out among the 1st
4 rows of sections 10, 11, and 12, but not too badly.  :)  the seats below
us, on the floor, were sold on the 14th individually to auburn students.
from what one student told me, it was practically worthless trying to get
those tickets since there were a lot of tickets already taken by friends of
the people selling them.   but anyway... :)  i think we did pretty darn
good :)  i need to get a final count for how many people want to meet for
dinner beforehand, so email me asap if you're interested.  also please tell
me what kind of food you want.... so i can find the right place.  i'll send
out directions, meeting places and times, etc. as soon as i can.  9 more
days!!!!!!!!!!!!
sue

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just to let you folks know, i will be gone for a week...my gf and i are
taking a trip to texas!  whoo hoo!  see ya'll in a week!

sara

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yes, when she just sang away without a guitar (it was during bury my heart
at wounded knee)  i, to quote emily, fuckin died.  ;)

peace to all....

off to sleep.....just one way that i shame the sun......

indigo dreams to all-
karrie

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subject:      this week/next week on rosie (nigc)

hey y'all:  as my weekly service to my friends on the list (and 'cuz i must
know if ig is on, which they aren't yet...), here's some info on musical
acts/singers to perform in the coming days/week:

thursday, april 17
musical group inxs performs

wednesday, april 23
a performance from broadway's bring in 'da noise  bring in 'da funk

friday, april 25
singer boz scaggs performs

that is all....still waiting for ig and melissa, though she's still at home
with the little one, i'm sure...

later y'all!

joni  :o)

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subject:      (nigc) companies to patronize/ avoid

does anyone know where i can get a list of companies that support the right of
unborn children to live instead of being destroyed by their parents?

                   thanx in advance, chris

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allright..tonight is wednesday..ellen's usual spot over here in the
golden triangle spot of the lone star state...they showed two episodes
of drew carey...but no ellen...now, i like drew's show...he's a very
funny guy...but ellen should have been on...i see advertisements for
ellen's show on the 30th though...i certainly hope they show it
here...because if they don't, well, i'll have to sign off the list
because i'll be too busy typing up letters to send to various
close-minded idiots....i have had it up to here with this censorship,
this taking of civil rights.....this crazy idea that seeing gay people
on television is an unfit family environment..(the second episode of
drew had "gay undertones" in a manner of speaking...why not ban his
show? not to mention the fact that he slept with a woman who turned out
to be married...which was a boo-boo on her part, but the horror!!! isn't
that a sin?? where's jerry f*ckwell *ahem* i mean falwell now??) ...in
essence they are saying that this world is an unfit environment because
gay people are  everywhere!! we've lived in a "straight folks"
environment for years...and the one time someone  wants to bring about a
peaceful diversity, the whole nation gets their boxers in a wad....this
is not some twisted episode...this is not some sort of rally to get all
women to become gay or all people to become gay for that matter....this
is the point of view of one woman who wants to share a sensitive side of
life through a character on a show...to bring people closer by showing
them that , hey, we're all different...but we are also all human...we
all have our different joys, different hurts, fears, and aspirations...
but we all feel...why does one person have to be shut down just because
they are expressing a point? why doesn't anyone try to shut down all the
heterosexual-type, nuclear family shows?? goodness me, they're trying to
show a side of life....i'm offended :/ *rolls eyes sarcastically*
that's all for now...i've just needed to vent...and if you've gotten
this far, thanks so much for hearing me out....

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
"well, okay...let's just say that someone was fleeing from somewhere, looked back at someone, and got turned into a pillar of salt.."-k.c.

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actually i scored *really good seats to great woods last year two weeks
before the show -- another option is to ask for the obstructed view seats
in sect. one or three -- i did that for neil young, moved to section two
for the opening bands and the person who had those seats never showed up.
also the ticket agency releases tickets five days after they were sold if
the do not clear the credit card company or receive checks...
i don't know how lucky you will be but there is a couple of months before
the show -- with a great deal of work you should be able to get good seats.
mike r.

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subject:      i feel silly....

i got aked a question today about the girls...and couldnt answer it!!!
where/when did they get there name???

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subject:      bostonians - meet for brunch on friday am?

hi all!

since i'm going to be in the boston vicinity friday morning, i was
wondering if anyone in the area might be available in the morning to meet
for coffee or brunch.  i know most of you work, but i'd love to meet and
put faces to names.  i'll be leaving albany around noon thursday
(tomorrow) and will check my mail a couple of times before then to see if
there are any interested parties.

hope to see you.

tuesday's child

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hi all!

i am a second-time newbie on the list, and i have enjoyed your comments very
much.  i have an idea for a cover song for the girls- neil young's "unknown
legend": "somewehere on a desert highway. she rides a harley davidson, her long
blond hair flyin' in the wind...".  it is a beautiful song that makes me whisk
away to mystical dream land.
i go to school in minneapolis (mn) and i am wondering if anyone knows if/when
the lovely women will be playing up here.  if you know, please e-mail me at:
cook0143@maroon.tc.umn.edu
migwetch (thank you),
amanda

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chris wrote:
>does anyone know where i can get a list of companies that support the right of
>unborn children to live instead of being destroyed by their parents?
>
>                   thanx in advance, chris
>
i agree with chris but just didn't know how to put it lightly without
offending a very large majority of the listers.  see, my mom always said
that you should never discuss politics or religion with friends unless they
understand your point of view (not necessarily agree).  i follow that to a
"t" because my big mouth has often gotten me into some pretty nasty scrapes.
i really think that every person is entitled to their own opinion as long as
they understand every aspect of their own as well as that of others.  so as
not to avoid a potentially huge mess on our so peaceful list (recently), i
really think that it would be a good idea to drop the pro-life/pro-choice
issue.  i'm sure there are many out there who are torn btwn the two sides as
well.  i don't know if the list is exactly the place to obtain information
pertaining to censorship due to such issues.  maybe we could drop the whole
choice part of the issue.  just mho.  don't mean to offend, just maintain
peace in indigo land.

have an oh so happy spring eve!!

mere

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i must agree with the wow... in this subject a 100%.  the show was one of
the most energetic and lively shows i've been too. it was well worth the 7
hour drive.  i just wish that i was more able to express what the show
was like, i'm not able to type what being there actually felt like.  from
the underwear on the stage to the question and answer period, songs with
life backing up to being surrounded by people ten feet from the stage and
meeting some wonderful people from this list ( a special shout out to
gabreille and thanks for the ticket).  let's go play with our new
basketballs.

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date:         wed, 16 apr 1997 22:27:01 pdt
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subject:      re: sorta ig relatedre: pooh's corner ??? (fwd)
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so....are you suggesting that ig cover this??  i would loooove that.  what a great song it is, and it would sound so cool from em and amy.  yeah!!!!  *grin*

jennifer w.
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: from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
: while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
: return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an
: additional verse.  here is the whole song, "return to pooh corner".

:
: return to pooh corner
:
: christopher robin and i walked along
: under branches lit up by the moon.
: posing our questions to owl and eeyore
: as our days disappeared all too soon.
: but i've wandered much further today than i should
: and i can't seem to find my way back to the wood.
:
: so, help me if you can i've got to get
: back to the house at pooh corner by one.
: you;d be surprized there's so much to be done,
: count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky.
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh.
:
: winnie the pooh doesn't know what to do,
: got a honey jar stuck on his nose.
: he came to me asking help and advice
: and from here no one knows where he goes.
: so i sent him to ask of the owl if he's there,
:  how to loosen a jar from the nose of a bear.
:
: so, help me if you can i've got to get
: back to the house at pooh corner by one
: you'd be surprized there's so much to be done,
: count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,


it's hard to explain how a few percious things
seem to follow throughout all our lives.
after all's said and done i was watching my son
sleeping there with my bear by his side.
so i tucked him in, i kissed him and as i was going,
i swear that ol' bear whispered boy, welcome home
believe me if you can i've finally come
back to the house at pooh corner by one
what do you know there's so much to be done
count all the bees in the hive,
: chase all the clouds from the sky .
: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,
: back to the days of christopher robin,
: back to the ways of pooh.

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subject:      wheaton

i must say, my face hurts from smiling soooo much!

this was my first live indigo experience, so i will leave the reviewing to
someone who is better able to speak rationally!

it was great to see amy and emily so happy  they truly looked like they were
having fun.  it was great!

i looked for fellow listers, but i ended up getting there so late that i just
wanted to find a good place to stand before lift started thier set, which
rocked, btw.

if anyone got a boot of the show, i would love to get my grubby little hands on
it.  tonight was a friend's 21st birthday, and this was also her first indigo
concert, so i would love to be able to give her a copy of it as a present.
(as always, i will offer my right arm, my left leg, my first-born,
etc.etc.etc.)

i should get going.  i can't wait to hear everyone's interpretations.

kell from hell
kfairbairn@stonehill.edu

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i just have to say that i am so excited that others know about rent.  it
is my favorite musical of all time...i know every single word.  i am going
to see it again this summer and i am so excited.  so if anyone hasn't seen
then please do or at least listen to the music.

--katherine

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okay.  i have my degree in elementary education, and am substitute teaching until i get a permanent placement.  i started a long term (probably until the end of the year) placement today, teaching 3rd grade humanities (soc. studies, art, music).  if that isn't cool enough, the 3rd grade teaching assistant's last name?  leeds.  = )

you know you're an obsessed fan when you misread the number 16 on a racecar as ig.  oh, but i did.  *smile*

jennifer w.
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for anyone in the l.a. area,

y107 modern rock announced that they're giving away pairs of tickets to
the july 2nd ig show all day tomorrow (that would be thursday).  every
hour, i think they said.  the tickets don't actually go on sale to the
public until sunday at 10.

good luck - hope someone from the list gets some!

alison

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subject:      dave thomas can bite me (nigc)

--- you wrote:
does anyone know of any junk food companies that support
homosexual/abortion rights?
--- end of quoted material ---

yep! i do! it's called "susita's house of feminist cheese items"

included in our tasty treat selection:
1) cheese ovaries (to go with your cheese balls)
2) cheese on patriarchy (that's gouda on a slice of white bread, very
crusty...get it?)
and
3) cheesepowertothesisters- our very own chesse flavored energy drink!

to place an order call 1-800- chyxrule

:)))

im up too too late

sus
ps dont flame me for being crass, i'm *proud* of it! xoxox

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subject:      wheaton setlist

as expected, the wheaton show was amazing. here's the setlist; i'll post more
later.
1. the wood song
2. don't give that girl a gun
3. get out the map
4. shed your skin
5. it's alright
6. cedar tree
7. caramia
8. cut it out
9. everything in its own time
10. reunion
11. least complicated
12. leeds
13. shame on you
14. ghost
15. chickenman
16. galileo
encore (w/ lift):
17. tried to be true
18. bury my heart at wounded knee
19. closer to fine

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subject:      wheaton hooplah!

this will be screwy and a strange post because i'm exhausted and i just
got pulled over by a copper coming home. *grumble*

this was my first ig concert. needless to say, it will not be my last. i
was about 5 feet away from emliy saliers herself. lift was awesome, i now
have this gigantic crush on the bass player, julie. she was so cute. hung
around afterwards to see if i could slide over and talk, but she was
breaking down the set. em was watchin' from a balcony during lift's last
few songs. so then the grrls come out and i am stunned. they are even more
incredible than i had ever imagined them to be. it was like i was home. =
)

they started with the wood song, but i'm not going to give y'all the set
list. i wasn't trying to remember them at the time...sorry. = )   i swear
emily caught my eye and gave my the biggest grin i've ever seen in my life
when i flashed "i love you" in sign language. who knew the grrls could
sign? i had a friend (thanks amy 'n kyle!) throw up a leetle note on
stage. it just said that i would love to get up and play at least one song
with them. emiy saw it, but never picked it up. **sad** o'well. there's
always next time.

i think wheaton's "na na na na na na na"'s were better than the 1200
curfews one. = ) we totally rocked out! and when a & e were doing ctf, em
messed some lyrics, but we set her back on track. she said "you did it!"
and gave us her awesome grin. here's a *high-fiver* to the wheaton concert
people for singing the entire last verse of ctf!!!!! we rock!!!

amy seemed kinda pissed when she first came out, but relaxed and got into
the songs towards the end.  it was a little sad without sara and jerry
with them, but lift came out for bmhawk and ctf at the end, so that was
nice.

in an end to my review, can i ask if anyone got the boot to this? i would
like to hear if my "thank you!" is on it. (i screamed it after the "i
offer thanks to those before me...." line.)  what were those little toys
those people gave a & e?! a cow and a pig. hmmmm...and the security guards
were so anal. my friend pam and i went outside to pee, and came back to
buy cds. a guard stopped us and made us leave! we were so pissed...*grrrr*


i enjoyed dancing with a certain topless woman immensely and thanks to the
concert, i have a new friend and plans for the weekend. *grin* kyle and
amy, it was great hanigng out during the concert with you. amy remind me
to go to all ig concerts with you. girl, you know how to push to the
front. lol!

yours in sleepy-land,
liz

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you don't even want to know how many times i've begun writing my little
review of tuesday night for y'all--then i get about three sentences in and
realize that words just can't capture the evening and i delete everything.
okay--this time i'm determined to press send, so here goes...

i've never had the opportunity to see the girls live before...but they
certainly made it worth the wait! we got everything last night from broken
strings to rainbow basketballs, from chickenman to caramia! last night was
the first that i had heard any of the new songs...i've been *really* testing
my will power because i wanted to hear the new stuff live...i have crazy
thoughts sometimes. ;) but i'm so glad that i did! all i can say is...powerful!

everyone else has done such a wonderfully through job of recapping the
evening that i can't think of many details to add about the show itself...

just to let you all know...my fiance, bill, and i were able to get a pretty
garsh-darn-good (trust me i've listened to it three times!) boot of the
show!  :) actually, he did all the work...which is good since i don't think
i'd have been able to reach down and flip the tape from my seat on cloud 9!
:) as things stand at the moment, i've already got several people to dub for
and i won't have time to even *think* about this until next week. so,
please, wait until next week and i'll post more info then, okey-dokey? if
anyone out there does have a lot of booting/trading/tree-making experience
please email me, because i'm really new to this (as in got my first-ever
boot tapes in the mail two weeks ago!) and would much appreciate a little
guidance.

hope everyone enjoys the upcoming concerts (or at the very least the boots
of them!) as much as i did! :)

tamara
tmg123@psu.edu

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ooooh man, we're back from the wheaton concert and for the first ig concert
i've been to-it was amazing and brilliant and i can't believe i was 3 feet
away from amy and emily.

anyway ... :)

set list went something like this:
(and i'm sure i left some stuff out so everyone else who was there please
add!)

shed your skin
shame on you
least complicated
don't give that girl a gun
it's alright
leeds
reunion
cedar tree--this was an unexpected but happy surprise!
galileo
the wood song
ghost
cara mia
cut it out
get out the map

encore:
tried to be true
bury my heart at wounded knee
closer to fine


lift played for 45 minutes and then after a 30 minute set-up, amy and emily
came out with lovely smiles on their faces! i had a great view- and a
coupla other very cool
listees were near me..hey deb (great binoculars) and hey jenny from smith! :)
i'd say we were a pretty attentive and polite audience, at least in my
section, and we sang along so lustily the girls broke out into huuuuge
grins and let us sing some songs almost on our own!
i think amy broke one string and at one point i thought emily was crying
after she sang ghost. ooh, that was an emotional point in the concert.
in terms of attire, emily was wearing a red/white/yellow striped shirt and
black jeans with a black shirt underneath, amy was wearing a red polka-dot
button-down shirt, black shirt, and red jeans.
i have nothing to compare this concert to, seeing as how it is my first (
but not my last!) but i thought the girls were very happy and amy seemed to
be in a stellar mood...laughing at the audience when we sang out loud and
then grinning at emily! sigh! it was a night of rebirth.
i also must commend wheaton college for an excellent job! *clap*clap*


exhausted but ecstatic,
therese :)

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wheaton was great.
  amy was at her best tonight.  she was all smiles and oh...so sexy:)  i was
very surprised when they opened with wood song, but it was a wonderful
surprise.  of all the versions that i've heard, cut it out was at its rawest
and best by amy.
they both seemed very cheery.  they were jamming hard most of the evening.
of all 3 shows i saw this tour,(unh,mt.holyoke, and wheaton) i would
probably rate this as #1 for me.  the crowd was slightly obnoxious during
the new songs, but other than that it was great.

funny quote of the evening: before ctf,"here's the collegiate sing-along for
y'all."-amy

emily story: "i was in harvard square today looking for a sanwich and i
walked by this construction worker and his little radio was playing "shame
on you".  it was the first time i had heard the song on the radio, and i
just wanted to go up to the man and say, 'hey that's my band you're
listening to!'  it was just one of those simple pleasures of life for me."

amy only broke one string, i believe, and it was during cut it out.  the
encore songs were done with a lot of energy by both lift and the girls.  i
guess that's all for me now, i'll let someone else fill in what i missed.
ahhh..what a great show.:)

back to lurkdom,
ali

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"this world falls on me with dreams of immortality.
everywhere i turn the beauty just keeps shaking me."
                                        -amy ray

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hey all!

if anyone booted the wheaton show (and i saw a bunch of recorders so don't
lie!! heh heh heh) i would give my right arm and left leg for a copy....
please email me you generous soul you!!

therese :)

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subject:      wheaton show...aaaah...

what a great show. i'll just fill in some details here that others haven't
mentioned.

in terms of set list, the wood song, cedar tree, and reunion were lovely
surprises. i never knew cedar tree could rock like that! the whole audience
seemed to know all the words to the wood song, reunion, least complicated,
ghost, chickenman, tried to be true, and bury my heart at wounded knee, and
we got treated to more wonderful amazed smiles at this fact from emily (does
amy not feel also honored to have teeming masses singing her words?! only
kidding.)

this was my first general admission show, and the experience was surprisingly
good. i got in line at 5:15 and wound up almost touching the stage (of course,
it helps to have your so whisk you across the floor at the speed of light the
minute you get inside. :-)) there was not too much pushing or shoving or
general unpleasantness that i noticed, but waaay too many people were smoking
in the line and after the concert (i'll leave the freudian significance of
this fact open for discussion.) the worst thing that happened was someone
stepping on my bag and squishing my pears, and then when i took out my pen to
start writing down the set list, my hands smelled like mashed pears. :-p

anyone know why emily was wearing all black (well, except for the stripey
shirt)? i loved her black nail polish!

as was previously mentioned, between caramia and cut it out the people in
front me handed a tiny ceramic cow (and something else i couldn't make out) to
emily. she didn't understand its significance! :-p

amy broke a string during cut it out. in fact, when reading any concert
review, it's probably safe to assume that amy broke a string during cut it out,
unless the reviewer specifically says that amy did not break a string during
cut it out. guitar string manufacturers should use this song to test their
products.

between cut it out and everything in its own time, emily read a cute little
note addressed to someone named "jessie", from her (his?) parents explaining
that they were late for the concert, or something.

there was another hardware failure during shame on you. something fell off
emily's banjo and she had to finish the song on guitar. !

after soy, emily told a story about going for a sandwich in harvard square (i
was at harvard square on monday and i didn't see her! :-() and hearing soy
on the radio for the first time, on a transistor radio belonging to a
construction worker on the street. i quote: "it was so hard for me not to come
to that guy and say, 'that's my band!'"

the best two lines of the concert, though, were spoken immediately after
"ghost":
amy: "that song makes me sad."
emily: "it's sad."

did anyone else notice the lyric change in bmhawk? i forget how it was at unh,
but at this show, amy sang "i learned a safety rule, i don't know who to
fight, don't stand between the reservation and the corporate right", where
"fight" and "right" used to be "thank" and "bank" instead.

amy introduced ctf with, "it's time for the collegiate song." and some cute
anonyma in a billings house t-shirt got invited onto the stage to sing along.
and i was hoping that my spiffy nff list shirt would get me invited. :-}

emily looked tired through most of the show, but amy was hyperenergetic as
usual. and i agree that it looked as if emily was about to cry after "ghost".

and if you have the boot? well, my usual offer of my firstborn applies. or i
could just set up a tape tree. :-)

kirsten

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subject:      marginal igc: one more note on the wheaton show

who was the youngish-looking guy with a ponytail at the wheaton show, wearing
a list shirt? he got in line well before i did (5:15) and was standing fairly
close to the stage, but on the left, amy's side. if you are he, you look
*exactly* like someone i know, and i want to ask you about it. please reply
by private email.
kirsten


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ok maybe i wasn't clear as to what info i wanted when i sent my original
post...i know when the girls are playing...thanks so much to everyone
who responded with the places and dates...but...

what i really want is specifics about those venues...like size,
acousitics, how bad are bad seats...what about the sections (is a the
best or aa?)  that sort of stuff.

so if anyone is familiar or knows of a web site or even has a hard copy
of the venue seating arrangements, please let me know...:)

yours truly,

seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

>please, please also send me any info anyone might have about the two
likely venues, the greek and the red rocks or where ever they may be
playing...

this info may be useful to others on the list...thanks!

seona

sb2@axe.humboldt.edu
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hi everybody!

i am going crazy listening to all the great posts about the recent
concerts.  if anyone has boots of anyo f them and would like to trade with
me, i have a lot of boots to work with.  let me know, i would be eternally
greatful.  thnaks.

wendell

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to trisha and all others interested...

my impression with the sony ig web site is that many of the sites that
are listed on the research results are old sites.  so if you cannot
access the page or the video or audio clip, it's because, they (sony)
are not maintaining that web site.

the cool things about looking through each of the sites listed on the
search results are
1) the dancing dolls and the newer pics, that many have already
discovered,
2) the oldersites have some cool info, like the interviews for so and
rop, and bios,
3) the photo gallery,
4) the link to ferron (sorry for the mispell ferran :?

so to answer you question...there is no secret pass word or anything, if
you can't get into a page (if you don't get "access", or if it's not
found, it's probably, most likely, because sony is not maintaining it
anymore.

specifically, the fan club/survey site will leave you stuck with getting
a user name and password.  when i asked my awesome expert internet
server (northcoast internet), stated was that it was probably because
that particular site was not being maintained any further and that the
links were not actually linked. :?

confused?  e-mail me.

seona
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seona--
do you know what the deal is with the pages you need some kind of
clearance to get into?? do you have to be registered with sony music
somehow???

thanks for the info  :)   trisha

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hi, cybernot here. going to the lasalle show? you lucky dogs. tix were a
bear to come by weren't they. well here's some news you could use.
parking is impossible! essentially, there is no parking. to add to your
enjoyment, the school is located in a tough inner city neighbor "hood".
if you should bring a car to the area, don't even think about leaving
anything of value visible in your car. think i'm kidding? check out all
the broken glass on the street. whose windows do you think those were?
the campus is located at 20th and olney ave. go to this site and you can
see a really crappy map of the campus.
http://www.lasalle.edu/gen-info/maps.htm

if you are thinking about taking public transportation go to this site:
septa: http://www.libertynet.org:80/~septa/rail/rail.htm

need a map of the area? this is the best i could do:
http://city.net/cgi/mqcustomconnect

in the address finder section of this page enter la salle university in
the label section, 20th and olney ave. in the address section and
philadelphia pa in the rest of the sections. don't forget to play with
the magnification section of the page.

did i hear anyone ask about security for the show??
the tix say "no alcohol, bags, food, or drinks; no tapes, cameras
or recording equipment allowed. lasalle u. reserves the right to search
clothing. infractions or disruptive behavior will result in ejection."

                  <and my favorite part>

                  "concert rain or shine".

the *rumor* is that security is primarily concerned with alcohol
possession. booters take your chances.

the tix are $10.00 and if you don't already have one they won't be sold
in the school store, if you get my drift. prepare to be scalped.....
ouch! the show is outside in a high school size football stadium. good
for dancing, bad for sitting! the weather you ask?  well.... you don't
really wanna know. last time i checked they were saying snow showers.
sounds like fun eh? we *will* have a memorial service for jen lucero
when she freezes to death waiting outside to get in. don't worry jen!
i'm sure audrey beth and andi will drag your frozen body upfront to the
stage for the show ;-)

remember, once you get on campus,...... it's nice!
fare thee well!
cybernot
p.s. the tickets say the show starts at 8:00
pm

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as far as i know, they do cover it. or have a few times.

sari
>date:    wed, 16 apr 1997 22:27:01 pdt
>from:    jan hallford <jhllfrd@galstar.com>
>subject: re: sorta ig relatedre: pooh's corner ??? (fwd)
>
>so....are you suggesting that ig cover this??  i would loooove that.  what
>a great song it is, and it would sound so cool from em and amy.  yeah!!!!
>*grin*
>
>jennifer w.
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>: from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
>: while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
>: return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an
>: additional verse.  here is the whole song, "return to pooh corner".
>
>:
>: return to pooh corner
>:
>: christopher robin and i walked along
>: under branches lit up by the moon.
>: posing our questions to owl and eeyore
>: as our days disappeared all too soon.
>: but i've wandered much further today than i should
>: and i can't seem to find my way back to the wood.
>:
>: so, help me if you can i've got to get
>: back to the house at pooh corner by one.
>: you;d be surprized there's so much to be done,
>: count all the bees in the hive,
>: chase all the clouds from the sky.
>: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh.
>:
>: winnie the pooh doesn't know what to do,
>: got a honey jar stuck on his nose.
>: he came to me asking help and advice
>: and from here no one knows where he goes.
>: so i sent him to ask of the owl if he's there,
>:  how to loosen a jar from the nose of a bear.
>:
>: so, help me if you can i've got to get
>: back to the house at pooh corner by one
>: you'd be surprized there's so much to be done,
>: count all the bees in the hive,
>: chase all the clouds from the sky
>: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,
>
>
>it's hard to explain how a few percious things
>seem to follow throughout all our lives.
>after all's said and done i was watching my son
>sleeping there with my bear by his side.
>so i tucked him in, i kissed him and as i was going,
>i swear that ol' bear whispered boy, welcome home
>believe me if you can i've finally come
>back to the house at pooh corner by one
>what do you know there's so much to be done
>count all the bees in the hive,
>: chase all the clouds from the sky .
>: back to the days of christopher robin and pooh,
>: back to the days of christopher robin,
>: back to the ways of pooh.
>
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at 11:42 pm 4/16/97 -0400, chris wrote:
>>does anyone know where i can get a list of companies that support the right of
>>unborn children to live instead of being destroyed by their parents?
......

then mere wrote:

>i agree with chris but just didn't know how to put it lightly without
>offending a very large majority of the listers.

well, mere, here's how i would've said it:

does anyone know where i can get a list of companies that support the rights
of the unborn?    (or something like that)

to add the statement "...to live instead of being destroyed by their
parents" adds absolutely nothing to the request for information....it's only
purpose it to give one's opinion in a very accusatory way.  i won't get into
a discussion on the rights of the unborn vs. the right to choose here, but i
think that the way that chris worded the request for information boarded on
being sneeky...i really feel it was unecessary to editorialize at the end,
thereby masking the accusation with a seemingly harmless request for
information.

i hate it when people try to use guilt to ram their opinions down your throat...

go ahead.  flame me.

joan  <----  i'm being formal 'cuz i'm *not* smiling right now.....

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>here's the latest from the greek theater mailing list:
>
>indigo girls
>wednesday, 2 july at 7:30pm
>$29.75 / $27.75 / $19.75
>on-sale sunday, 20 april at 10:00am
>also available as part of the greek theatre premiere club.
>
>
>the sony site is also listing a july 3 concert, which will probably go on
>sale when this one sells out.
>
>
>on your mark, get set....
>
>alison
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has anyone else heard of music stores allowing you to pre-purchase the
album and receive the shame on you single and a calendar?  i went to a
store in atlanta last night that was doing that as a promotional thing,
something about pre-selling enough to make the album go platinum on the
day it comes out.  anyway, i now have in my hands a cd with the radio
edited version of shame on you and the unedited version and a cute little
calendar with tons of pictures and cool dates highlighted.  awesome!

take care, all.

amy k.

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on wed, 16 apr 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:

> : from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
> : while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
> : return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an

kenny?  i must have missed whatever prompted the lyrics, but i've long
wondered who they were covering.  can anyone help me out?

thanks :)


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we have these new indigo girls items for sale:
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if interested, email us at igboo8@aol.com or check out our webpage at

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can anyone get me tickets.  a friend of a friend said he would get some
and he was mugged - long story - and now the day before i have no
tickets.  call me 9-5 at (201) 378-2633 or e-mail me at
lamphimi@lanmail.shu.edu.  i have been excited for the show for weeks
and can't believe i won't be there.  thanks for any help you can provide.

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hi kind friends,


*i am now climbing on the soap box. lookout*
okay this is totally my opinion and no one elses please don't flame me
too hard...this is not a list for discussing our opinions on abortion.
amy and emily are openly pro-choice, and i think that's why people
started asking questions (was it because they don't eat nabisco?) but
still this is not the place for this conversation because people have
very strong opinions (well, *i* certainly do - being, just for the
record actively and noisily pro-choice-that's why this is a hard thing
for me to sat) and we really don't want to alienate or hurt eachother. i
think it' okay to dicusss poitics (of course) and to name our realities
is of course crucial, but i for one  don't want to get into a huge flame
war or really hurt people whom i have up until now been happy list
buddies with. i have to respect people's diversity-no matter what it is,
if i want them to respect miine. of course, if someone's not respecting
my diversity, i also totally have the right to get in their face. :) i
think we need to cool it on this one.

trying to be diplomatic,


larissa

p.s. someone asked who operation rescue is. they are a national
anti-abortion organization that used to do a lot of "rescues", which
means blockading access to a clinic or sometimes a hospital that does
abortions. they don't do rescues so much since the freedom of access to
clinic entrances act was passed. they are definitely on the more radical
end of the pro-life/anti-abortion movement.

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ihey y'all-
i've been gone from the list for a couple a days but i think that maybe, if
we want to donate money to all three foundations- we should maybe explain
about all three, ask for the $$$$$, and set a date for the final total to be
counted, and divide up that total equally at the close of the dateline.  (i
thought it was logical- all though i'm a huge fan of all three foundations!)
-emily
(who's still in a state of utopia because last night at wheaton, she was 10
ft. from the stage surrounded by a bunch of old bar dykes  and when she
started cying (cause she was so touched) and she put out her hand, emily  (i
was closer to her side) put out her hand back and smiled and then she met,
hugged, and got autographs from lift- who were amaziong openers.)

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ok guys

        i was in bed 'ther nite and had a dream where by i was back stage
at a u2 gig .. edge and bono were practicing a new acoustic song which
turned out to be this train ( revised ) ... spooky

now this has got me thunking we've discussed ( to the bitter end) what we
want the girls to cover but who do we want to cover the girls

my suggestions to start the ball rollin' ...

        bon jovi        -       3 hits
        elton john      -       watershed
        springsteen     -       dead mans hill
        meetloaf        -       jonas and ezekial


try and be imaginative i know i haven't what about some strane duets (
girls included )

later

jules
        when you learn to love yourself
        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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>so....are you suggesting that ig cover this??  i would loooove that.  what a
great song it is, and it would >sound so cool from em and amy.
yeah!!!!  *grin*

um... they already have! sort of... its on one of the boot let cds
available from rainy day records....
i think it may be the "levees that break my heart" one...


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good morning all!

i really enjoy reading all these posts about the shows. i won't get to see them until next week and i can't wait. the post-show reviews are so detailed and, usually, tell me everything i could have possibly wanted to know and then some.

however, liz t. wrote:
<i enjoyed dancing with a certain topless woman immensely>
and neil j. wrote:
<from the underwear on the stage ... >

what the ?@#?!! are y'all talking about an ig show or mardi gras? boy, did i miss something at these shows! must've been the moon or something, i guess. i will be seeing them in alabama and i trust everyone there will be on their best behavior. i hate to think what them 'bama boys would do to a lusty lesbian who lost her lacies at the concert. cue theme from deliverance. ;-)

now, please don't flame me if you're from alabama. i live in decatur, but - until last december - i was living in oklahoma, so i know. you get used to hearing the jokes. i was just poking fun at ya, don't ya know?! ;-)

peace,

susan

"throw me something, mister!!" - everyone at mardi gras in nola, every year, all over town.

"hey lady!" - the feminine equivalent, to be shouted at the all-female krewe floats.

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>   question: what is operation rescue?

i'll try to be as apolitical as possible here.

operation rescue (or) is a group which takes active measures to
"rescue" (translation: to prevent the abortion of) unborn
*insert_noun_here*.  the typical method is to picket a clinic a loud
and often abusive manner, inhibiting patients from going in.  sometimes,
measures go beyond the typical (blocades of clinics, picketing homes
of doctors).  members linked to or, but not or itself, have been
indicted for bombing clinics or killing clinic workers.

it should be noted that while or is a pro-life/anti-abortion group,
they are only a very small (but vocal) section.  most everyone wishes
they would go away, even if they happen to sypathize with their
motivation.

on a side note, i'm proud to be part of this list today.  this is one
of those issues that could really rip this place apart and its being
handled with the care and respect it deserves.  abortion, legalities
and moralities aside, is a painful and complex issue for everyone --
all to often the conversation is dominated by two people yelling at
each other.  hey it makes good teevee.  it makes me reassured to know
that intellegence and decorum can win out =)

                                -- chris


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on thu, 17 apr 1997, julian knopf wrote:

>         bon jovi        -       3 hits
>         elton john      -       watershed
>         springsteen     -       dead mans hill
>         meetloaf        -       jonas and ezekial
>
well, clearly rod stewart and kenny loggins must both be in there, since
they cover everything. seriously, though...
        tori amos  -- bright star
        peter mulvey -- any amy song
        tracy chapman -- chickenman (?)
        van morrison -- dunno, but he could do most anything well
        over the rhine -- something etherial (emily song)

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hello to all!
i'm a newbie, but i was wondering if anyone has any boots of recent ig
concerts... i have an "older" one from earlier in the demo tour that i could
trade...it's got rockin' versions of old and new songs as well as michelle
malone as their opening act.
  on a slightly old note, this was my first ig concert and i loved it.  a large
group of us waited for at least four hours to get autographs...but they had been
snuck out halfway through our vigil.  i, my friend and two others however,
decided to check things out, because it was a small town and it's hard to hide a
tour bus...  so we actually saw the bus without looking too far, and we got
a&e's autographs.  i was dancing!  amy had just gotten out of the shower and had
sweats and her glasses on, but looked beautiful as ever!
  anyway, info on a boot would be appreciated... they've switched things up
since i've seen them.


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subject:      a few more wheaton tidbits

the mystery guest from closer to fine was my new list friend...  who i hope
made it home safely!  she also got us backstage afterwards, where we got to
chat with lift for a little, but didn't get to see ig till they came out the
the tourbus.  thanks for making the night so much fun.

sulli said ig will do letterman on the 30th, then rosie on th 7th or 8th.

ok, i tried booting, missed five songs i think -- it was my first time -- but
let me see what i can salvage.

also, this was the first show i went to where a bunch of folks asked about my
list shirt, so i think we have a few new converts out there.

takem care, kevin s. minoli   kevsmin@aol.com

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subject:      re: ig on boston radio??

i just heard soy on 98.5!!!!!!!!!!!  and yes they will be in the studio after 4:00 pm today!!!!!!!
                        marge

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subject:        ig on boston radio??

does anyone in the bahhston area know if mix 98.5 are having amy and emily
on the radio tomorrow (thursday)? i was flipping through the radio dials
and i thought i heard the dj say, after playing soy, that ig would be doing
an interview with them???!! can anyone confirm??

also-for those of you who are still hoping to get tickets to mama kin for
the private ig party, i heard that you can still win tickets tomorrow on
98.5m ..so tune in, win, and then tell the rest of us to make us insanelely
jealous! :)

therese :)

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why kenny loggins silly

on thu, 17 apr 1997, karra baron wrote:

> on wed, 16 apr 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> > : from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
> > : while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
> > : return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an
>
> kenny?  i must have missed whatever prompted the lyrics, but i've long
> wondered who they were covering.  can anyone help me out?
>
> thanks :)
>
>
> karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
> *****************************************************************************
>
>
>
>

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kenny loggins

on thu, 17 apr 1997, karra baron wrote:

> on wed, 16 apr 1997, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> > : from memory (my 1st graders sing it every day :)  kenny wrote this
> > : while in high school and as an adult wrote a sequel to it titled,
> > : return to pooh corner.  it's pretty much the same song, but has an
>
> kenny?  i must have missed whatever prompted the lyrics, but i've long
> wondered who they were covering.  can anyone help me out?
>
> thanks :)
>
>
> karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
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subject:      re: shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single
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on thu, 17 apr 1997 igboo8@aol.com wrote:

> we have these new indigo girls items for sale:
> shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single..
>
> if interested, email us at igboo8@aol.com or check out our webpage at
>
> http://members.aol.com/igboo8/index.html
a calander????

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> my suggestions to start the ball rollin' ...
>
>         bon jovi        -       3 hits
>         elton john      -       watershed
>         springsteen     -       dead mans hill
>         meetloaf        -       jonas and ezekial
pet peeve here first off you spelt it wrong and second its 2 words nt one
one is the food 2 is the singer its meat loaf  and id love to hear him on
somthing like blood and fire or maybe hey jesus
hugs anthony van pyre

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it's not just the newbies.  my friend who's seen the girls 4 times in
concert asked me last night at the wheaton show "the one on the left is
amy, right?"

i just smiled and nodded.  what can you do but educate those who do
not know??  :-)

--nick

on wed, 16 apr 1997 lmd21@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 4/14/97 12:58:06 am, you wrote:
>
> <<! i was very
> confused, and had it figured in my head that the brunette was emily for a
> really long time. thank goodness those days of my newbie confusion are long
> gone!>>
>
>         hey y'all--
> just a note on this..
> my first album was swamp ophelia and while i thought "the dark haired one has
> the deep voice and the strawberry blond haired one has the higher voice", i
> always thought that emily looked more like an amy.......oh well
> lauren-- who is going to see her first concert in june!!!
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looking for tickets to the april 20th concert at american university.
please email me asap if you can help.  jfelix@vt.edu       thanks

julie felix, atc
virginia tech athletic dept.
307 cassell coliseum
blacksburg, va  24061- 0502
(703) 231-6938  (703)231-6686 fax

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i heard they will be on 5/9 and i don't believe she tapes a day early -- if
anyone absolutely knows different (rena???) please let me know
mike r.
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does anyone have just one extra ticket for this show?  e-mail me
privately.

carol
jone3176@saintmarys.edu.

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what a great show!!  everyone else has done such a good job of re-capping
the whole night that i won't go on about all the details.  just a few
things that i was truly impressed with:

--lift was great!  i'm usually one of those people (sorry!) who don't pay
much attention to the opening band, but these guys were really great.  i
bought their cd (recorded on dameon) and it's neat sounds will carry me
thru till april 29th...unless, of course, some kind soul out there wants
to send me a boot of sots before the 29th......

--i love leeds!! maybe it's because i play the piano and was *so* excited
when i heard "language or the kiss" for the first time, but i love it
when the girls do a song i can play.  try as i might, i cannot learn the
guitar.

--when emily made that comment about being in harvard square, all i could
think was "why the hell did i go to work yesterday morning instead of
going to harvard square...i've been meaning to go, i could have gone
yesterday, i could have seen her, etc. etc. etc.

--i officially cast my vote for the banjo in soy.  after hearing it twice
in concert and numerous times on the radio, i've decided i like it.  so
there! :)

--and, of course, no ig show would be complete without ctf (the
"collegiate sing-along" as amy said.  actually, we sang along on several
numbers - the na-na's on least complicated were better than the ones on
1200c's (imho) and we the audience got to sing a whole verse of ctf.  i
was so psyched.

in general, a high-energy crowd and an enthusiastic a & e combined with
the great sounds of lift made the night awesome.  i can't wait for their
summer tour!!!!

--nick *who has quite the sore throat this morning from singing all last
night....*

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subject:      ig wheaton experience.

hello to all in the land of indigo!!

well wheaton rocked!  got 2nd row side amy, she smiled at me
during galileo when i made an airplane crashing motion. the
show was incredible, lots of great energy on stage.  i love them
for playing cedar tree, one of my favorites, not to mention amy
playing slide guitar.  i have to say it was a great show, and
the general admission wasn't that bad.

sulli gave me a set list after the show, and we talked after the show
at the bus for about 1/2 hour.  met lift again, they are so great and
very cool to talk to.  the highlight however was waiting to meet amy
and emily and getting a big 'ol hug from emily and chatting to her for
a few minutes.  i also got to ask amy if she got the journal book some
of us made for her and she said "yes i did, thank you" and made a peace
sign with a big smile on her face.  emily said the book was beautiful.
i was so touched.  it was an incredible night.

off to a blissful day of indigo memories.

take care and peace!

-deb

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i haven't really been keeping on my mail too much lately but i was told
that something is brewing around here about corporate sponsorship of
various political/social agendas and that operation rescue is getting
thrown around the list...

anyway, i think someone asked about possible websites informing the
web-surfing public about corporate activities.  well i have a few for
those who are interested...

democracy now! is a watershed site that has links to various watchdog
sites.  democracy now can be found at
www/pacifica.org/democracy/boycott.htm/ last time i checked.

included on there list of spiffy sites are:

the council on economic priorites (www/accessp./com/cep)-
they rate companies in respect to different social issues ranging from
environmental concerns, equal rights for women, community responsiblity
etc--- the whole gamut.  they also have an interactive search on their
site that lets you look up companies by product or something.  i have an
old browser and never got it to work...

the boycott board (www.2streeet.com/boycott)-
a list of companies to boycott and why.  reasons vary.  of course you can
always use this list to support a company because you happen to agree with
whatever it is they are doing to cause the boycott.

rainforest action (www.ran.org)-
rainforest stuff (ohh, i bet you couldn't guess from the title)

and for those out there who think the conglomerate that is the american
media is, well, biased, check out fair (fairness and accuracy in
reporting).  i forgot their site...
warning, i happen to think that fair has a bit of a leftist bent but this
is just my opinion and probably the reason why i like them.

so now everybody can go make their own informed decisions about how
and where to spend their money, in good conscience.

happy shopping,
cynthia
who wants to order susita cheese

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i am so excited!  34th street, a weekly magazine-type supplement to the
daily pennsylvanian (penn's daily newspaper) did their cover story on ig!
there's a big picture on the front (the photo shoot one that's similar to
the one on
http://www.music.sony.com/music/test/theoutsideworld/indigogirls/bio.html)
with the cover headline, "shades of indigo."  i wonder if they think they
came up w/ that title all by themselves. ;)  there's a pretty positive 2
page article, with another picture of a&e & then the sots album cover
picture too.  the writer, brian cross doesn't sound too fond of soy, but he
sounds like he likes the rest of the album.  i would type it up, but this
issue should be online pretty soon at http://www.dp.upenn.edu/street/, so
you can check it out there.  it's not there yet, but it should be soon.  i
snagged a few extra copies, & i can easily get more.  they're free, so if
anyone wants one, you can mail me a big enough sase to fit it, & i'll mail
you one.  e-mail me for more info...

for people on my la salle ticket list, i'll be e-mailing around 7 or so w/
more details.

andi, who can't wait until tomorrow when she's seeing ig not once, but
twice! :)

  -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
                                andrea lipman
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                    "cause baby, i got something to stand for
                          i got somewhere we can go
                    i just need someone to stand with
                it ain't no good just being alone."-amy ray
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at 12:18 pm 4/17/97, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>> my suggestions to start the ball rollin' ...
>>
>>         bon jovi        -       3 hits
>>         elton john      -       watershed
>>         springsteen     -       dead mans hill
>>         meetloaf        -       jonas and ezekial

> pet peeve here first off you spelt it wrong

i hate it when words are spelt wrong....

> and second its 2 words nt one ..one is the food 2 is the singer its meat loaf

actually, isn't it spelt the same way mark?  i think it is spelt the same
way...the singer and the food i mean...

i'm going to check out the spelting right now....

joni  :o)

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there are list t-shirts? are they still available? and if so, how would i
go about getting my hands on one?

sari

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subject:      re: shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single

ok, so i looked at this web site and i was wondering if anyone has ever
ordered anything from here?? i don't want to imply anything about whoever
maintains this site (because i have no idea) but where does this money
go?? if somebody's selling ig music shouldn't the profits go to the girls??
and on the site it says to make your check payable to a specific person --
i thought that was very strange and well, unprofessional. anyway, someone
who knows more than i please clue me in!  :)   thanks,   trisha


ps doesn't least complicated sound funny on so without all those crazy ig
fans singing the na-na-na-na-na-na-na's. kudos to everyone last night who
outdid 1200c -- just wait till the girls make it to jersey  :)

> from madonajk@alpha.delta.edu thu apr 17 12:26:11 1997
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> subject:      re: shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single
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> on thu, 17 apr 1997 igboo8@aol.com wrote:
>
> > we have these new indigo girls items for sale:
> > shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single..
> >
> > if interested, email us at igboo8@aol.com or check out our webpage at
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/igboo8/index.html
> a calander????
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>
> actually, isn't it spelt the same way mark?  i think it is spelt the same
> way...the singer and the food i mean...
>
> i'm going to check out the spelting right now....
no meatloaf <==one word is the food
meat loaf<===notice the space between 2 words is the singer
hugs anthony van pyre

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at 01:45 pm 4/17/97 -0400, mark wrote:

>no meatloaf <==one word is the food
>meat loaf<===notice the space between 2 words is the singer
>hugs anthony van pyre
>
soo you'rye correcctting are speeling now? thus shoud bee intresting. gonna
make sure i watch my "spelting." thanks joni ;)

jendy

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at 1:45 pm 4/17/97, mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>>
>> actually, isn't it spelt the same way mark?  i think it is spelt the same
>> way...the singer and the food i mean...
>>
>> i'm going to check out the spelting right now....
>no meatloaf <==one word is the food
>meat loaf<===notice the space between 2 words is the singer
>hugs anthony van pyre

your rite!  in fact, i think meat loaf (the singer) is very particular on
how his name is spelt...i think he called rosie o'donnell on the carpet
when he was on her show 'cuz she spelt it wrong during the opening
credits....oh well, back to work....

have a good day!


joni  :o)

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hello, all...i have a question.

has anyone ever read an article or interview in which a&e discuss their
favorite songs that they themselves have written?

it seems like i read this somewhere sometime, but if anyone recalls what
their opinions on their own songs are, i would find it very interesting, as
i'm sure most would.

thanks!

justin

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on thu, 17 apr 1997, joanie wrote:

> at 01:45 pm 4/17/97 -0400, mark wrote:
>
> >no meatloaf <==one word is the food
> >meat loaf<===notice the space between 2 words is the singer
> >hugs anthony van pyre
> >
> soo you'rye correcctting are speeling now? thus shoud bee intresting. gonna
> make sure i watch my "spelting." thanks joni ;)
>
ill state this again read what i right im only correcting the spelling of
his name nothing else becuase he is very particular on his name

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mark rote:


>ill state this again read what i right im only correcting the spelling of
>his name nothing else becuase he is very particular on his name
>

i red what you rit. i actually understood it, too. so his name is meat
loaf?? is that spelt correctly? i'm very particular too. i've found that
punctuation (contrary to popular belief) really makes a sentence, in the
same way that lettuce really makes a salad! but that's only my opinion, and
as we all know, my opinion isn't worth shirt. just stop and think before you
flame someone for a spelling error...

jendy


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> > soo you'rye correcctting are speeling now? thus shoud bee intresting. gonna
> > make sure i watch my "spelting." thanks joni ;)
> >
> ill state this again read what i right im only correcting the spelling of
> his name nothing else becuase he is very particular on his name

read this the first time:

1) according to webster's the food is "meat loaf."  namely:

        meat loaf n. (1899): a dish of ground meat seasoned and
                                baked  in the form of a loaf.

please forgive me if there is another food created after 1988
which goes by "meatloaf."  i, nor webster's, has heard of it yet --
but we both lead sheltered lives.

2) i appreciate you taking the time out of your very busy schedule (as
you've previously stated, so busy to can't be bothered to spell check,
punctualize, capitalize, or otherwise care about the rules of english)
to stand up for mr. loaf and the spelling of his name.  he would be,
rightly, terribly offended to see a typographical error rob him of his
rightful " ".

3) it would be nice if you showed the rest of us the repect you
correctly show meat loaf by being a shining example of spelling of
proper nouns everywhere!  after all, isn't it the theme of ig music
that we should show respect to all living things and all ideas?  it
would be "meat loaf-ist" to do otherwise!  if you can't take time out
to follow the full gramatical structure of english its quite
understandable, but learning the spelling and capitalization rules
for proper nouns would be a wonderful start.

4) one might find that flames on the net go a lot further and are accepted
better when they come with a sense or humor and/or irony.  it also helps
if someone can't come right back at you with "pot. kettle. black."
just some thoughts. =)

*hugs*
christopher m. becker

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> as we all know, my opinion isn't worth shirt. just stop and think before you
> flame someone for a spelling error...
>
> jendy
sorry that wasnt a flame it was a mild correction

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now see this is a flame and ive never seeen the food spelt with the space
before

on thu, 17 apr 1997, christopher m. becker wrote:

> > > soo you'rye correcctting are speeling now? thus shoud bee intresting. gonna
> > > make sure i watch my "spelting." thanks joni ;)
> > >
> > ill state this again read what i right im only correcting the spelling of
> > his name nothing else becuase he is very particular on his name
>
> read this the first time:
>
> 1) according to webster's the food is "meat loaf."  namely:
>
>       meat loaf n. (1899): a dish of ground meat seasoned and
>                               baked  in the form of a loaf.
>
> please forgive me if there is another food created after 1988
> which goes by "meatloaf."  i, nor webster's, has heard of it yet --
> but we both lead sheltered lives.
>
> 2) i appreciate you taking the time out of your very busy schedule (as
> you've previously stated, so busy to can't be bothered to spell check,
> punctualize, capitalize, or otherwise care about the rules of english)
> to stand up for mr. loaf and the spelling of his name.  he would be,
> rightly, terribly offended to see a typographical error rob him of his
> rightful " ".
>
> 3) it would be nice if you showed the rest of us the repect you
> correctly show meat loaf by being a shining example of spelling of
> proper nouns everywhere!  after all, isn't it the theme of ig music
> that we should show respect to all living things and all ideas?  it
> would be "meat loaf-ist" to do otherwise!  if you can't take time out
> to follow the full gramatical structure of english its quite
> understandable, but learning the spelling and capitalization rules
> for proper nouns would be a wonderful start.
>
> 4) one might find that flames on the net go a lot further and are accepted
> better when they come with a sense or humor and/or irony.  it also helps
> if someone can't come right back at you with "pot. kettle. black."
> just some thoughts. =)
>
> *hugs*
> christopher m. becker
>

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so i just wanted to sing their praises as loudly and as wonderfully as
possible!  sasha and tucker are wonderful!  they are absolute peaches, and
ever so generous.  : )  sasha, you know what i'm thanking you for.  and
tucker, thanks for keeping me in mind and trying to work out au tix for all
us out here!

happy rainy day
court

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if there is anyone out there with ticket info for either for the june 7th
show in saratoga or the show on the 10th in canandagua please let me
know...  ticketbastard doesn't know a thing, like usual... any info would
be greatly appreciated. thanks in adavance...

kate

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hi guys.  i'm moving, again, and i have to go offline for quite a while.
tomorrow is the last day i will talk on the ig-line, so i wanted to share a
cool story with ya.  i'm a semi-pro drummer from the nashville area.  before
that, i played in knoxville with several bands and the utk jazz big-band.
one night i found myself with a cool guitar player named chuck at the
library, watching this great band from athens called rem.  we went across the
street that night and watched another cool band called black flag. so, i
moved to nashville and started touring with the wigs.  somehow, i ended up
playing at the library in knoxvile and ran into chuck at the gig.  it was
wierd seeing him there.  he asked me if i had ever seen this great new show
by the indigo girls.  i told him no, and he said they were playing at the
bijou theater where i use to play with utk.  so, i went to the show.  it was
during their strange fire tour.  it was weird, because, the ellen james
society opened up,(they were great), and amy wanted to watch the end of their
set, so she came out onto a balcony to watch.  someone saw her and everyone
in the place started yelling and pointing.  it was great.  i new i was at an
event that was very special in two musicians life.  i've only sent mail to
you guys once, but i've kept up with all of you on the ig.  you guys send me
mail, because i've got to go back on the road thing.drummstr67@aol.com

                                                                 peace, love,
save the planet:)

                                                                          rod

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i figured since they'd been on the road for some time, she probably wouldn't
have had time to get "gut symmetries" so i gave her my copy (hey i can always
get another one) the ending to that book was interesting..if anyone else has
read it and has a theory email me (i have one of my own, maybe not the
correct one...)  celeste

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hey y'all-
i'm still in such a state of utopia from wheaton but anyway....
we definitely need new list shirts.  i've been around for almost 6 months and
don't have one....let's get started guys.  (ok, i'm kinda pumped 'cause ig
will be on mix 98.5 in about 1/2 an hour!!!) wooo hoooo!!!!!!
-emily
(who's in a great mood 'cause break is next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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not to perpetuate this entire ordeal, but the word is spelled, not spelt.
if you're going to correct someone for their spelling, grammar, etc., you
should be damn sure you don't make any mistakes.  you should also try
punctuation, capital letters, and apostrophes.  they're great when you're
actually trying to convey meaning in your message.

elizabeth

>now see this is a flame and ive never seeen the food spelt with the space
>before

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mark anthony donajkowski wrote:
>
> now see this is a flame and ive never seeen the food spelt with the space
> before

actually, most people have probably never seen spelt.  although spelt
(triticum spelta), one of the "covered wheats," is a major cereal crop
in isolated regions of southeastern europe, spelt production in the u.s.
peaked in the early 1900s and has declined since.

sorry, i couldn't resist, the sudafed made me do it :)

anna whipkey

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if you sent me e-mail today (thursday) between 8 am and 3:30 pm, i never
received it. please re-send if it was important.

also, i don't suppose anyone would be so kind as to forward me all the list
mail that was posted between 8 and 3:30...:-)
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okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
up.  if you are that stuck-up, go join some snotty intellectual group.  i
mean, get a life.  for god's sake, aren't there some issues out there that
are worth discussing that weigh a little more heavily on the mind.  i turn
on my computer, and instead of getting the usual good feelings i get, i
get to walk away feeling that from such a liberally-minded group, such
injustice should not occur.  mark was just trying to make a point about
the guy's name.  you are mean and cruel people...and i hope someday
someone tries to make a complete ass of you and you feel hurt, because i
feel hurt and the "jokes" weren't even directed at me.  get  a life joan
or whoever else was doing it.  i'm afraid this list is "too good" for me
now, because i don't use capital letters, and i'm sure the grammar and
spelling police find it annoying.  so, i am signing off.  i don't need the
bullshit.

amy


###############################################################################


"is this still life all i'm good for too?
there by the window quietly killed for you
and they drive by like insects do
they think they don't know me
they hired a car for you..."
-brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"

"jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
-my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick


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on 04/17/97, "mrs. dalloway" <benorea@river.it.gvsu.edu> said:

>okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
>what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
>up.  if you are that stuck-up, go join some snotty intellectual group.  i
>mean, get a life.

poor soul. i hope she has the strength to survive the slams i fear she's
going to get...

-liz- (still in indigo euphoria from last night, avoiding all flaming
discussions..)

ps-why isn't mix 98.5 playing them already?!?! jeepers...i'm glued to my
radio...

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well said!  i am sick of the stupid posts that are about nothing except
whether someone made a typo or not...

on thu, 17 apr 1997, mrs. dalloway wrote:

> okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
> what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
> up.  if you are that stuck-up, go join some snotty intellectual group.  i
> mean, get a life.  for god's sake, aren't there some issues out there that
> are worth discussing that weigh a little more heavily on the mind.  i turn
> on my computer, and instead of getting the usual good feelings i get, i
> get to walk away feeling that from such a liberally-minded group, such
> injustice should not occur.  mark was just trying to make a point about
> the guy's name.  you are mean and cruel people...and i hope someday
> someone tries to make a complete ass of you and you feel hurt, because i
> feel hurt and the "jokes" weren't even directed at me.  get  a life joan
> or whoever else was doing it.  i'm afraid this list is "too good" for me
> now, because i don't use capital letters, and i'm sure the grammar and
> spelling police find it annoying.  so, i am signing off.  i don't need the
> bullshit.
>
> amy
>
>
> ###############################################################################
>
>
> "is this still life all i'm good for too?
>  there by the window quietly killed for you
>  and they drive by like insects do
>  they think they don't know me
>  they hired a car for you..."
> -brett anderson of the london suede-"still life"
>
> "jesus, amy, don't you ever learn?"
> -my infinitely-wise 19-year-old brother, nick
>
>
> ##############################################################################
>
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on thu, 17 apr 1997, anna whipkey wrote:
> actually, most people have probably never seen spelt.  although spelt
> (triticum spelta), one of the "covered wheats," is a major cereal crop
> in isolated regions of southeastern europe, spelt production in the u.s.
> peaked in the early 1900s and has declined since.
>
> sorry, i couldn't resist, the sudafed made me do it :)
>
> anna whipkey
thats fine see i can tak ea joke<g>

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joann melnik wrote:
> um... they already have! sort of... its on one of the boot let cds
> available from rainy day records....
> i think it may be the "levees that break my heart" one...

it's also on the tuesday's children and purple parrot boots.  my guess is that
the cut on levees is probably one of those tracks.  i'll have to give it a
listen when i get home.  i also want to find out if they do the "return to"
verse at the end.  and thank you jan (i think) for posting the lyrics!

tom
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quick update:

amy and emily are in-studio now in boston ...live interview...live singing
of shame on you...amy says with authority...."the only difference between
me and jesus is i keep fucking up!"  they are cracking up while singing
now!

yea!  go grrrrl!

watch for tape tree of interview and mamakin show......


joni  :o)

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on wed, 16 apr 1997, susan tomlinson wrote:
>it took me ten years to recover from trilogy of terror.
>anyone remember that gem?
> "turn it around, mommie! it's staring at me!" - me, at 5 yrs., with a tina
>two-steps giant doll menacing me in my bedroom.

karen black...queen of cujo character-acting...the main reason for my
seasoned maladjustment as a teenager...other flicks to see...the sentinel,
burnt offerings, the pyx, hmmm...lets have a list party around hallowe'en?

peace, kim n.v.

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<< then someone asked what amy's tattoo meant, and she replied "it's
been so long...when i was young and foolish".  then she added she had just
gotten a new tattoo that day..."painful...but i almost fell asleep at the
end..." >>

anybody scream out - "let's see it !!!!"

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hey all.

i just finished listening (and taping) the girls on 98.5.

did anyone else think it was ironic how emily said that they don't buy into the
commercial trappings of success?  that is one reason why i respect them so
much, because if they do get popular, then they won't sell out like other
bands.

<sigh>

anyway...off to choir....

kelly
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ok i'm going on break for about a week now so i have to sign off the list (i
forgot last break and came back to 734 messages!!) i hope everyone enjoys
the upcoming concerts and if y'all can, tell the girls i say hi! ;-) anyway,
i will resubscribe when i get back to catch up on everything. also a big
thank you, thank you, thank you goes out to jan stevens for sending me on
the road to austin!! thank you so much!!! anyway, see y'all in a couple
days-dave

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just a quick note to all those who answered my question about the movie
and actor i couldn't come up with.  i got a flood of responses.  i can
rest easy once again now that i know that the robert redford directed film
was ordinary people (based on the judith guest novel) and the actor who
played the therapist was of course judd hirsch.  y'all rock.

                         -colleen

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sorry to trouble you all.  i know lyrics to probably every track on sots
have been posted here in the past.  but i all too hastily deleted them
thinking i could wait for the liner notes.  i was wrong.  so, does anyone
have them on a web page anywhere?  i scanned the usual sites but couldn't
seem to find them.  if not, would someone be kind enough to email me the
lyrics to soy.  (the rest can wait.  soy is particularly pressing because
i started humming and strumming a few bars a couple days ago after someone
here mentioned it was a simple a d e song.  now i really wanna play it and
i don't know the words.  (the only recording i had was on the las cruces
boot, my copy of which has been eaten by my dying tape deck.)

                        -colleen

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if i remember correctly, amy says that ghost is one of her favorite songs
emily has written.  this can be found in the lyric-booklet that
accompanies 1200c.  check out the handwritten notes next to the song
description.

--nick

on thu, 17 apr 1997, justin shumaker wrote:

> hello, all...i have a question.
>
> has anyone ever read an article or interview in which a&e discuss their
> favorite songs that they themselves have written?
>
> it seems like i read this somewhere sometime, but if anyone recalls what
> their opinions on their own songs are, i would find it very interesting, as
> i'm sure most would.
>
> thanks!
>
> justin
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hey guys
regardless of how meat loaf is spelled or spelt,  puhlease  stop reposting
the entire message along with your reply.  please!

we digestees have to see the same messages along with added sigs etc. over
and over and over.

another plea for short sigs too.....

lori


"this is now, this is here, this is me, this is what i wanted you to see."
                                            rem

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i need 2 tickets for the auburn show.  does anyone have 2 extras?  please
email me if you do- thanks
emily
ebgore@hubcap.clemson.edu

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>now see this is a flame and ive never seeen the food spelt with the space
>before

jeez, poke a little fun, start a flame war.....oh my....

"fire marshall joni here......what seems to be the trouble?"

"well, seems there was a little flame, and all of a sudden, it's turning
into a 5-alarm fire!  can you help us, fire marshall joni?"

"stand back...."

[whoooooooooooosh.......whooooooooosh...........whoooooooooosh......]

"looks like the fire's under control now...."

"thanks, fire marshall joni....how can we thank you?"

"well, next time, don't play with fire!"

...and yes, i will heed my own advice........

going back under my rock......hehe  :o)

(spell check complete...0 errors)

xoxoxox,

joni  :o)

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okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
up.  if you are that stuck-up, go join some snotty intellectual group.  i
mean, get a life.  for god's sake, aren't there some issues out there that
are worth discussing that weigh a little more heavily on the mind.  i turn
on my computer, and instead of getting the usual good feelings i get, i
get to walk away feeling that from such a liberally-minded group, such
injustice should not occur.  mark was just trying to make a point about
the guy's name.  you are mean and cruel people...and i hope someday
someone tries to make a complete ass of you and you feel hurt, because i
feel hurt and the "jokes" weren't even directed at me.  get  a life joan
or whoever else was doing it.  i'm afraid this list is "too good" for me
now, because i don't use capital letters, and i'm sure the grammar and
spelling police find it annoying.  so, i am signing off.  i don't need the
bullshit.

amy

not a single mis-spelled word...

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hi all!
i used to be on the list a while ago, but haven't joined back and i just saw
that there is a new single "shame on you" and an album soon!
can someone give me all the juicy details?
tour soon....oh please oh please?
thanks alot!
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>i'm still in such a state of utopia from wheaton but anyway....
>we definitely need new list shirts.  i've been around for almost 6 months and
>don't have one....let's get started guys.

i'd love to be able to put together another list shirt project (i was even
thinking of offering a hat too), but i think we should wait a few months
for several reasons:

1) many listees already gave a good chunk of money to the amy project and
will soon get hit up for the emily project. i think we should only have one
list project at a time that involves money.

2) many list members who are students will be signing off soon. last year
we started the project around this time and things got messy with the
orders and collecting money because we lost track of many who signed off.
then i ended up doing a second order in the fall for all those who were
pissed that they missed out in spring.

3) with the tour taking shape and the album due out this month, i know many
budgets will be blown tackling those things. i'd be afraid we'd have a
limited audience, especially with the emily project about to start up.

so, my plan is to be able to offer something towards the end of summer and
catch all the students as they're coming back to school. besides, that way
you'll have nice things to wear for the fall portion of the tour because by
then you'll be sick of wearing those silly naked buck shirts that don't
glow in the dark but should (i really want to know who came up with that
shirt design - why do i get the feeling that beer was involved with the
decision?)

deb

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on thu, 17 apr 1997, justin shumaker wrote:

> has anyone ever read an article or interview in which a&e discuss their
> favorite songs that they themselves have written?

according to an interview in the march/april issue of the performing
songwriter, amy likes the following songs:

   by amy                         by emily
kid fears                      virginia woolf
chicken man                    history of us
three hits                     crazy game
                                galileo

according to the same interview and article, emily likes the following songs:

   by emily                         by amy
history of us                    chicken man
you and me of ten thousand wars  land of canaan
ghost                            jonas and ezekial
love's recovery

hope everyone finds this interesting!
nick

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in a message dated 97-04-17 16:43:57 edt, you write:

<< there are list t-shirts? are they still available? and if so, how would i
go about getting my hands on one?>>

i was wondering the same thing.....i was on the list when the shirts were
being put together, but i had to leave before they were available for actual
ordering, so i missed out! :(  are there any of these left, or is there maybe
enough interest among the people who didn't get one to have some more made?

-connie :)

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subject:      shawn colvin on austin city limits

>>did you see colvin this weekend on austin city limits singing with
>>sheryl crow?  only one song, but it was pretty cool.
>>jeremy

>i think you meant to send this to the entire list, but instead, it
>came to me.  just wanted to let you know in case you wanted to resend
>it.
>
>have a great day/night!
>
>tamara
>p.s.  i didn't see that, but i wish i did.  sounds cool!  :)

okay, so now you all know.  i got it on tape if any of you are desperate
colvin or crow fans.

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this is going to be a weird request, but is there anyway, if the consensus
is to do the shirts in the fall, to do them late, rather than earlier. i
got to northwestern, and we start really late, and i wouldn't want to miss
them.

sari

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hello to all,

in case anyone needs to reach me in the 10 days i
will be out of town you can send me private email
to this account:  jmbardin@forbin.syr.edu

i will be reading the list, but won't be able to get to
my private mail until i return on 4/27, so if you need
to reach me that's where i'll be.  just put "for deb"
in the subject area.  thanks a lot.

take care and peace!

-deb

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thank you to all 65,432,109,876 listees who responded and told me that ig have already covered that song.  *laugh*  i get it, already.
= )

jennifer w.

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hi, y'all,

subject line says it all.  or if not, perhaps another of her opening sets
on this tour?  if so, let's trade!

tom
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          \/    only a child laughing in the sun
                     -- david crosby

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subject:      re: rollin' the ball....

in a message dated 97-04-17 14:51:19 edt, you write:

<<  stop and think before you
flame someone for a spelling error... >>

let's not start this shit again.  here's a wild and crazy thought....don't
flame anybody regardless of spelling or punctuation errors.  i really don't
need 47 posts where somebody is correcting somebody else's spelling, and
somebody else has to jump in and say that the last post wasn't gramatically
correct....you get the point.  let's just drop it, huh?

dawn

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friends:
the following is the e-mail address for the general manager for the abc
affiliate in birmingham, alabama.  this is the only station in the u.s.
currently which is refusing to air the "ellen" episode where ellen
degeneres' character comes out as a lesbian.  please write him a letter
telling him of your confusion, anger, and disdain.

jerry heilman, general manager email: jerryh@abc3340.com

thanks,

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   speaking of "rent"(again) i also have to beg all listers to go shell
out the money to buy this recording. before you buy that last ani
cd,before looking in the folk section and thinking "which one looks the
best" go buy "rent".
   amyray,as far as list t-shirts go,does everyone still where them at
concerts. i know alot of listers are going to the mann concert, so how can
i pick you guys out of the crowd?
that's it.,
ben

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"get out the map, get out the map and lay your finger down anywhere..."


i am an amy person with an emily tune stuck in my head since about 9:06 pm
tuesday night..................

please..someone....help......me..........

;)


karrie

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in a message dated 97-04-17 16:49:34 edt, benorea wrote:

<< okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
up.  *snip* .........>>

*then*
in a message dated 97-04-17 16:50:34 edt, poul verner wrote:

<<okay everyone...i think that it is important to realize that ideas are
what is fucking important, not spelling.  you people are really screwed
up. *snip* ....>>

woah....dude.....like.....deja vu' man !!!!!!!
is this a flashback maaaaan ????
guess i shouldn't have taken those 15 hits of windowpane back in '68 dude
....

peace !
treeflower

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hey binky!

with all this chatter of misspelling on the list, i am amazed that no one
caught my typo that you got me on.....  ;)

how is it that you spell 'christen" again???

seriously, who cares how we spell, as long as we rap and get it together when
it comes to music.  politcs, though, is another story!  ;)

peace, love, and presently reaching for an atlas because emily keeps telling
me repeatedly to "get out the map" in my head-

karrie, one who is having a huge fundraiser for hte this summer.....

;)

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hey all,

it sure is great to hear everyone's posts mentioning lift. they rock in a big way, but - as far as lift sounding like cranberries - nuh-huh! do not.

neener-neener-neener!

susan

ps - if you are in atlanta and not able to see ig and lift this week, cheer up! you can still catch several great shows this weekend locally. tonight at the point - belloluna, reversing hour and danielle howell and the tantrums! woo-hoo!!

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subject:      indigo stuff . . . all interesting and not too long

hkf:

a few cool ig things happened to me today.  first off, in english class, we
need to read a non-fiction book.  i'm reading dee brown's _bury my heart at
wounded knee_ . . . no, no, not because of the song!  coincidence . . . sort
of . . . anyway, so this girl in my class asked me what i was reading, and i
said the title, and this other girl goes "ahhh!  i love that song!"  she and
i broke into the chorus, and within seconds a third of the class was going
"it was an eighth of the reservation!!!"  suddenly this girl stopped singing
and said "have any of you heard shame on you an the radio?"  and a bunch of
them were like "yeah!  they play it on kiss all the time!  it rocks!"

hee hee

yesterday i heard ig was going to be on the radio here, and originaly someone
had said 2 pm, but i had to take a math test after school so i was all mad,
but then someone posted it was going to be at 4 and i heard it!  they called
us (their fans) "frenzied," and the dj was saying how when people would call
to try to win tickets to the mama kin show tonight, when they didn't get them
they would yell at him.  he also said he thought they were going to break big
with soy.  they played that and closer to fine, but they both sounded sort of
run down and tired . . . hmm . . .

and then . . .

tonight i had a guitar recital.  i did romeo and juliet, but i sort of
screwed it up because i have a bad sore throat. =(  every one enjoyed it,
though. =)  in fact, this woman in her 60's came up to me afterwards and was
like "i need those lyrics!!!"

hmmm . . .

also, i've enjoyed hearing about all these shows.  i'm really going to try to
get to the hartford one, as it's on my birthday.  a friend of mine from camp
is coming, even though she only knows closer to fine.  also, i had to promise
her no "weird lesbian stuff" was going to be going on . . . she only sound
homophobic, i swear!  another friend of mine from camp is going to try to get
there with her girlfriend . . . i hope she can.  i miss her.

well, i need my beauty rest.  g'night everyone!

-elizabeth

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subject:      philly mann tix ...

has anyone gotten their tix in the mail yet ???

chris

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subject:      new list shirts

we should get started soon on a new shirt, if we are to have it done by
fall.
with as many members as we have, there are sure to be many ideas to
discuss and consider before a shirt is actually made.

i would suggest something recognizable from a distance this time around.
when looking for others wearing a current list shirt, you almost have to
be right on top of them to recognize it.

i think that deb and rob did an excellent job on the first (actually
second?) ever list shirt.  i hope that they will be involved again.

if anyone is interested in starting discussion about what they would like
to be on the list shirt, let's get it rolling.

i have always liked the phrase "closer to fine, by being online"  which
was on the list pin (button) circa 94.  i would like to see this on the
new shirt if possible.

--derek

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you could hear shame on you coming out of fenway park!  they played scooter
boys and galileo, but i just caught the tail end.  if you jumped up real
high, you could see amy through the door!!!  my bestest bud got to meet
'em--emily hugged her!!! i know someone that touched emily!!!!!  she got me
the little calendar thingy and they signed it for me.  emily wrote my name
and put a little <<heart>>, emily on it.  then amy put a peace sign and
wrote a<<scribble, scribble>>  i'm wicked sorry, all of you folks, i'm just
deliriously happy and my roommate's bummed the sox lost and well, y'all
understand.  i'll type up the calendar thingy--it looks like a cd insert,
but it has tour dates inside, pix (so cute!)  cool people's birthdays like
woolf and dylan, and did i say beautiful pictures???

don't flame me for bouncing up the walls!  i was screaming out on landsdowne
st with all the pretty club people walking by just 15 minutes ago and i
didn't care then either.

i wish i could've been there and congrats to the lucky folks who scored a
ticket!!!  can't wait to see the reviews.  the girls're so beautiful!

back to (mostly silent)lurking,
heather

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tracy wrote:
<<i have had it up to here with this censorship,
<<this taking of civil rights.....this crazy idea that seeing gay people
<<on television is an unfit family environment
<<why doesn't anyone try to shut down all the
<<heterosexual-type, nuclear family shows?? goodness me, they're trying to
<<show a side of life....i'm offended :/ *rolls eyes sarcastically*
<<that's all for now...i've just needed to vent...and if you've gotten
<<this far, thanks so much for hearing me out....


this is my first post and all i have to say to your wonderful rant is
amen sister friend!!

candace (new women in town)

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sent:   wednesday, april 16, 1997 7:46 pm
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subject:        nigc ellen rant...

allright..tonight is wednesday..ellen's usual spot over here in the
golden triangle spot of the lone star state...they showed two episodes
of drew carey...but no ellen...now, i like drew's show...he's a very
funny guy...but ellen should have been on...i see advertisements for
ellen's show on the 30th though...i certainly hope they show it
here...because if they don't, well, i'll have to sign off the list
because i'll be too busy typing up letters to send to various
close-minded idiots....i have had it up to here with this censorship,
this taking of civil rights.....this crazy idea that seeing gay people
on television is an unfit family environment..(the second episode of
drew had "gay undertones" in a manner of speaking...why not ban his
show? not to mention the fact that he slept with a woman who turned out
to be married...which was a boo-boo on her part, but the horror!!! isn't
that a sin?? where's jerry f*ckwell *ahem* i mean falwell now??) ...in
essence they are saying that this world is an unfit environment because
gay people are  everywhere!! we've lived in a "straight folks"
environment for years...and the one time someone  wants to bring about a
peaceful diversity, the whole nation gets their boxers in a wad....this
is not some twisted episode...this is not some sort of rally to get all
women to become gay or all people to become gay for that matter....this
is the point of view of one woman who wants to share a sensitive side of
life through a character on a show...to bring people closer by showing
them that , hey, we're all different...but we are also all human...we
all have our different joys, different hurts, fears, and aspirations...
but we all feel...why does one person have to be shut down just because
they are expressing a point? why doesn't anyone try to shut down all the
heterosexual-type, nuclear family shows?? goodness me, they're trying to
show a side of life....i'm offended :/ *rolls eyes sarcastically*
that's all for now...i've just needed to vent...and if you've gotten
this far, thanks so much for hearing me out....

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
"well, okay...let's just say that someone was fleeing from somewhere, looked back at someone, and got turned into a pillar of salt.."-k.c.

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hi y'all,

im sorry to waste the bandwidth, but i think this is very important, when
you were young (and while you are young for us youngin's (though noone is
old unless they act that way), but back on topic)  and there was a special
place that you would go to, a camp, for example, it helped you to find out
who you really were/are, have lots-o-fun, and remember for the rest of
your life, well, there is one in north carolina called camp kanata, and it
trys to get children who cannot afford it, to come on the donations of
other "better off" people, my plead is to get members of the list to pull
a fund together, much like the hte fund, and i was thinking of putting it
in the name of the indigo girls, with the thought that they love to help
out people and they seem to love children, so why not help out children in
the name of the indigo girls?  below is a letter sent to the camp from the
mother of a child who received the benefits of the fund (the child) and
the letter sent to me by the camp, please consider donating to the fund,
if you want anymore information, please e-mail me at
ndishler@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us, thank you for listening to me plead=-)

nick

where am i?

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3-24-97 monday
to richard + ben;
        this is a love letter.  camp kanata has been the high point each
<underline> year <end underline> for my son, nathan.  he enjoys the
activities that are offered, but more than that is the camp spirit, fun
with new and old friend, and the counselors.  the counselors have proven
themselves to be mature, compassionate young men.  nathan talks about camp
kanata all year round.
        we look forward to summer vacation and espicially nate's time at
camp kanata with great anticipation!
        thanks for a job consistently well done!
                regards,
                        lauren weinstock

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dear camp parent,

        i hope that this letter finds both you and your family in good
health and ready to enjoy the benefits of the coming spring.  we here at
camp kanata are certainly looking forward to the warmer weather and the
upcoming camping season.

        every day the pressures on the children of our society continue to
grow.  many children are having trouble at school as they struggle for a
sense of identity and are forced to make decisions beyond the scope of
their knowledge.  some children need a place outside of the home where
they can develope and learn about life and themselves.  a place which can
help educate them about positive values, responsibility, cooperation and
self esteem all in a safe enjoyable enviroment.  such a place does exist,
it is called camp kanata.

        from your own family's knowledge i am sure that you are well aware
of the difference a summer camp experience can make in a child's life.  it
is a special chance for them to be exposed to a wide range of people and
activities all of which can help a child better understand both themselves
and the world around them.  unfortunatly not every child has the
experience.  many families are unable to afford the cost of tuition.  as
part of out ymca mission it is our desire to provide a summer camp
opportunity to the whole community regardless of their economic situation.

        last summer camp kanata <underline> provided financial assistance
to sixty children <end underline> allowing them to share in the magic of
camp.  these children left our camp with memories and friends that they
will treasure forever.  this summer it is <underline> our aim to bring one
hundred scholarship children to camp <end underline>, so that they too may
share in the magic of camp.  to reach this goal we need your generous
assistance.  i am asking for your support in the kanata component of the
1997 "<underline and bold> y we care <end underline and bold>" annual
support campaign.  this campaign is part of the ymca of greater durham's
efforts to raise funds in order to finance programs that help strengthen
the community by working with today's youth.

        whether you choose like some of our staff to sponsor a whole week
of camp ($335) or simply to sponsor one day of a child's summer ($50) you
will be contributing to an experience remembered and treasured for life.
take a moment to think about the difference that summer camp makes in your
child's life and join me, in helping to provide the summer joy a child
deserves but may not yet have experienced.

sincerely,

richard hamilton
director of camping services

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in a message dated 97-04-17 17:17:29 edt, you write:

<<
hi all!
i used to be on the list a while ago, but haven't joined back and i just saw
that there is a new single "shame on you" and an album soon!
can someone give me all the juicy details?
tour soon....oh please oh please?
thanks alot!
--r >>
i wrote this message...but got no reply...is the list still running???
take care
rob

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let me just tell you all....
this was my first live indigo girls experience.  it was better
than sex.  no joke!   i was trembling during the set...they were
absolutely amazing.  so beautiful and so incredibly intense.  you could
feel their energy emanating.

set list:
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
caramia
shed your skin
everything in its own time
shame on you
scooter boys
galileo

8 songs, and the crowd went wild...just screaming, but they didn't come
back.  i wanted to cry.  however, the concert was absolutely amazing.  i
was so close.  emily does this awesome thing where she scans the
audience...it makes you feel like she's looking right at you.  and amy
gives this wry little smile right before the line in shame on you about
"we were all on the same boat back in 1694"

i cannot wait for berkeley!  anyone remember the date and venue??????

indiglowing,
gretchen
hoff@fas.harvard.edu

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it is so cool a+e talked to fans outside, from every bit of of info i
received it was a tight security type event -- did you tape from outside --
you laugh bu5t i have heard much stranger tales...i almost went down but i
got broncitis and anm to tired to go off campus -- let alone boston - and
my friend did offer me a ride (and he was gonna beg any to let me in -- i
laughed and said go enjoy the show - i had my spotlight @ colby!

-- i'm glad for you
mike r.
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i need to try to complete this show -- either i or mike paluzzi will make
it well worth your while -- any quality is ok -- anj? dennis? anyone?? i
have the encore with me and am thinkingof placing classifieds in both the
umaine orono paper and the colby paper -- any other ideas???????

mike r.

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subject:      mama kin rocked!!!

what an intense experience it was!  the doors opened around 8, and we
were told we could each take one cd booklet-sized ig calendar.  shortly
after nine, the show began with a promotional video from epic.  it was
kind of an "infomercial" (can't think of a better word) about ig,
designed to stimulate interest in the upcoming album and tour.  (rest
assured, for this crowd that was like preaching to the converted!)  it
featured a year by year history of ig's professional career, and
described in detail their commitment to activism.  one interesting
fact: honor the earth raised $300,000, making it the single biggest
fundraiser for native causes.  the video was also very entertaining,
and i hope that it makes the boot rounds - it's not something that
would be sold through retail outlets.

now, the set list:
1. get out the map
2. don't give that girl a gun
3. cara mia
4. shed your skin
5. everything in its own time
6. shame on you
7. scooter boys
8. galileo

i can't think of anything to say about these great songs that hasn't
already been said.  and then it ended at 10:00.  we screamed and
hollered for an encore, but that was it.  a short set, but extremely
intense.  afterwards, we had the pleasure of meeting listees chris
becker, joan ferguson, and amy putnam.  i'm tellin' y'all, we're gonna
have one heck of a tailgate party at great woods!

peace y'all,
fran e.

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i realize it's incredibly long so i just included the salient igc dates.
hope y'all are interested.  sorry for the bw if you weren't.  all federal
and major jewish and christian holidays were mentioned in the original.

cover:

indigo girls

[cool picture of amy and em walking to the left into the desert, with some
purty hills in the background]

shaming of the sun
1997/1998 calendar

1st inside page:
extraordinary music, _shaming of the sun_ presents in 12 songs the strengths
of indigo girls in their entirety.  and they're formidable
strengths--ebullience and introspection, vocal dazzle and stinging guitar,
arrangements breathtakingly intimate or epic in range, street-talk poetry
and language on fire.  above all else...passion.

"sometimes i dread the studio experience," amy says, "but when i get in
there, it's almost mystical--the way it overwhelms me."  of this project,
emily says: "in the studio amy and i felt completely free to do exactly what
we wanted to do.  for the first time, we co-produced; we learned and wrote
on a lot of different  instruments; we weren't afraid to try something much
more expansive."

_shaming of the sun_ is finally music that's fueled and filled with great
hope.  it reaches out.  "we get a lot of letters from people who are very
specific about the ways that certain songs have helped them through a
difficult time or changed them or made them think about things," emily says,
of the concerts and albums that have already touched so many lives.  "our
fans are very loyal, and they're closely tied into the emotional aspect of
our music."  amy concurs, and elaborates: "we've just met so many fantastic
people along the way.  probably the best part of this work is the travelling."

2nd page: photo: a and e on a couch, looking at the camera, amy closer to
camera with her hand leaning over the arm of sofa, also in sand/desert
environment.

3rd page:
march 1997
[little photo: the dolls from sots cover.  just like a calendar page, with
following dates having captions]
3/12: concert: mount holyoke college
3/16: concert: hofstra university
3/17: st. patrick's day
3/18: concert: elmira college
3/24: concert: university of michigan
3/26: concert: calvin college
3/27: anna mae pictou aquash born 1945
3/28: virginia woolf born 1942 [which is wrong, incidentally; didn't she die
in '42?]
concert: rivercenter, davenport, ia

4th page:
april 97
[tiny pic of girls' in cowboy? outfits out in the desert again, on some kind
of wall]
4: concert: university of portland
8: buddha's birthday
9: concert: university of tulsa
10: concert: texas christian university
12: concert: university of new hampshire
13: concert: colby college
15: concert: penn state university
16: concert: wheaton college
18: concert: lasalle college
20: concert: american university
27: indigo girls' first appearance with david letterman 1989
29: _shaming of the sun_ release date

5th page
may 1997
[photo: em holding her hand in front of camera, amy in background squinting.
they're pretty bored at this point]
2: 1,000 people begin poor people's march, 1968
3: pete seeger born 1919
8: first honor the earth tour begins 1995
10: _swamp ophelia_ released 1995
12: _rites of passage_ released 1992
24: bob dylan born 1941

6th page
june 1997
[girls walking on a plain]
4: _back on the bus, y'all_ released 1991
26: seige at wounded knee 1975
28: stonewalll, a.k.a. christopher street, 1969

7th p.
july 97
[photo of two guitar cases and a bottle of water]
9: congress passes voting rights act of 1975
14: woody guthrie born
15: feast of the dead

8th p.
august 97
[photo: amy and emily looking bored but at least they're inside this
time--in the middle on a table, looks like the dolls are there]
8, 9, 10: ben & jerry's newport folk festival
12: jean sibelius born 1865 composer of _finlandia_
20: 19th amendment passes, (women's right to vote), 1920

9th-10th pp.
[long photograph all the way across.  in the desert again, lots of brush.
emily further back, kickin' a stone or something or maybe looking at her
boots and wondering what she stepped in.  amy in foreground, hands folded,
squinting, and pensive. quotes on these pages:]

"when i was a kid, i wanted to be one of the jackson 5" - emily

"we don't say to people that they necessarily have a responsibility to be
political, but it shouldn't be so unusual.  music is such a good way to
resist.  it keeps you strong, it has dignity." - amy

"joni mitchell is by far the biggest influence on my writing and how i think
about songwriting. and after her, bob dylan.  after listening to them, i
started looking at my own lyrics and went, 'oh my god, how did you ever sing
this, especially in front of people?'" - emily

"when i go to sleep at night, i don't think about things like celebrity
status.  i'm thinking about whether i'm going to vacuum the floor tomorrow."
- amy

11th page:
september 1997
9: keith moon dies 1978
18: _nomads*indians*saints_ released 1990
30: elie wiesel born, 1928

12th page:
[tiny pic; elegant girls, looking at camera]
october 1997
7: bishop desmond tutu born, 1931
_1200 curfews_ and _watershed_ released 1995
29: duane allman dies, 1971
31: _strange fire_ released 1989

13th page:
november 1997
7: joni mitchell born 1943

14th page:
[full page pic of girls with superimposed calendar.  emily's sitting on a
window in an adobe wall, which amy is leaping out the back of.  she'd had
enough]
december 1997
3: hawaii accepts gay marriages, 1996
18: steven biko born, 1946
29: massacre at wounded knee 1890

15th page:
[the elegant photo from the seventeen article]
january 1998
1: zapatista revolution, chiapas, mexico, 1994
9: _live at the uptown lounge_ released 1990
joan baez born 1941
25: virginia woolf born 1882 [well i guess she's cool enough to get two
birthdays but still]

16th and final page:
february 1998
1: black student sit-in at "whites only" lunch counter, greensboro, nc, 1960
15: galileo born 1564
21: _indigo girls_ released 1989
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hope this goes over well--only my second post and by far the longest.
thanks for reading this far.

heather
"when i go to sleep at night, i don't think about things like celebrity
status.  i'm thinking about whether i'm going to vacuum the floor tomorrow."
- amy ray

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calendar = chart of days, weeks and months

colander = drainer/strainer


jennifer w.

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ooh...i posted that "spell check" without reading all the messages...please don't think that i was attempting to be "superior" or anything.  i'm a teacher.  it's second nature to me.  i don't usually correct spelling, but there were questions about calendar and colander, so i answered without thinking that i might be misinterpreted.  wow...it's amazing how much you have to watch what you say.

btw...doesn't this whole thing sound like the exact same war we had less than a month ago?  history....cycles...karma...*sigh*

anyway...sorry if what i said was taken as anything more or less than an answer to a question.

jennifer w.

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subject:      i gave them a book -- ig at mama kin's
x-to:         igboston@palin.mit.edu

hello!!

just returned from the ig pre-release cd party at mama kin's in boston.  we
were lucky enough to be pretend vip's for the evening, as my friend's brother
got us in.  we mingled with a bunch of folks for about an hour, feeling
completely out of place -- although i did get to meet a couple of other
listees.

a and e came out to meet folks and take pictures around 8:00, so we all
scurried in line.  we got up to them about 8:45, and emily reached out to
shake my hand and sign my ig promo calender -- they seemed so professional,
but it was probably because mostof the people upstairs were from the music
business and really didn't seem like real fans.  after she signed, i said, "i
brought you a present."  i gave her a copy of _ishmael_, and she said,"you
know, someone was just telling me about that book."  (big smile from kevin)
happy that she seemed to be interested, i quickly pointed out that i had
included some info on work i had done on a wamponoag site at my school.
    then amy reached out to shake, and began to sign my calender.  i pointed
to the book and said it was for them, and she said, "great.  you know i've
heard so much about that book."  (big smile from kevin)
   we got our picture taken, and then i said, "i just have to tell you that
last night's mystery guest said to say hi!"  (that was for you erika) they
both laughed.
    i turned to leave and emily sort of stopped me, and said, "hey, thanks a
lot for the book."  (really big smile from kevin!)  i asked if they were
going to play shed your skin, and emily said yes and i gave them the big
thumbs up and drifted into the crowd.
  i always knew i wanted to meet them, but always feared that they wouldn't
live up to my expectations.  i was wrong -- i was very impressed with their
sincerity and honesty, they did not appear fake or like they were simply
doing this to sell the record, and the fact that em stopped me to say thanks
was well beyond what i ever could have hoped for.
   as far as the mini-concert, i believe it was get out the map, dgtgag, cara
mia, shed, everything in its own time, shame on you -- this was the first
show i've been to where the audience knew the words to sing along --  and
galileo, not necessarily in that order.
   it was an amazing week and night for me, one i will not soon forget.

take care, kevin s. minoli
kevsmin@aol.com

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subject:      ig live videos plus 1100 others

i have some ig live shows on my list plus just about any other artist you
might want.

my service is fast and qualkity is great.

see my site for entire list and e mail privately @ rockvid@aol.com  for
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ok.  i am a big lurker, but really need to take off the chastity belt and
dive in.

ireally think i could die happy now.  i met amy and emily at both mama
kin and wheaton.  they're both really long stories, and i don't want to
waste bw, but i'm with kevin on this one- they did not disappoint.  i
always thought that only really special people got to meet really cool
people like amy and emily, but i've now discovered that normal people
like me can meet normal (yet still utterly cool) people like them.  at
wheaton i was not planning on getting to meet them so i was so in shock
that i only got autographs for my best friend who was too shy to come
along and sat at the other end of te parking lot.  i forgot to get
anything for me- except fro the obligitory amy handshake and emily hug.
tonight at mama kin i was much more prepared-camera and autograph
material!!  my excasty is now immortalized in film and in print!!  i'm
really sory for the waste of bw but just needed to share with some people
who would understand my excitement!!!  thanks for listening y'all!!

love, happiness and indigo!!

jess

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i recently scanned through the recent postings to the list and thought
you'd enjoy
this little bit of humor. sorry if it's been posted before, i can't always
keep up with
the amount of mail this list generates!

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hey everyone...

i just read elizabeth's post about reading "bury my heart at wounded knee"
by dee brown, and i highly recommend also "lakota woman" by mary crow dog,
who was best friend's with the "annie" we all bleed for in the ig's
cover of bmhawk.  it was a powerful book that tells not only the story of
wounded knee, but of what life is like being a native american woman as a
whole.....

and keep the native americans of western ny state in your heart during
the next week or two.  seems the nys government is looking for yet another
way to screw them over (for lack of a better terminology...)

hte and indigo dreams-

karrie

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subject:      hello

greetings to all. i'm new to the list. i'm sure you have been over this
ground already, but i'm would be very thankful if someone could email me a
list of tour dates. i'm in south florida, but travel a bit, so i would like
to take a look at all dates available to see where i might catch the girls. i
can't get to the web page to check myself because my computer is an old and
very tired mac lc.

so, please, help!

thanks

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subject:      want to get ig merchandise

i am interested in finding a mail order company that sells ig merchandise.
shirts, hats, posters, etc. i saw the post from someone about the baseball
hat with ig on the front & indigo girls spelled out on the back. if anyone
could tell me how to get one i'd really appreciate it.

thanks...
susan

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subject:      re: nigc which companies support operation rescue? (was re: the
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on thu, 17 apr 1997, christopher m. becker wrote:

> >   question: what is operation rescue?
>
> i'll try to be as apolitical as possible here.
>
> operation rescue (or) is a group which takes active measures to
> "rescue" (translation: to prevent the abortion of) unborn
> *insert_noun_here*.  the typical method is to picket a clinic a loud
> and often abusive manner, inhibiting patients from going in.  sometimes,
> measures go beyond the typical (blocades of clinics, picketing homes
> of doctors).  members linked to or, but not or itself, have been
> indicted for bombing clinics or killing clinic workers.

or *used* to be an anti-abortion group, but since they've taken on a much
wider part of the religious / reactionary agenda.   here is what the
national gay and lesbian task force have to say on the group:

operation rescue
randall terry
p.o. box 1180
binghamton, ny 13902
607-723-4012

founded in 1986 by new york used car salesman randall terry, operation
rescue has received national media attention for its efforts to shut down
clinics that perform abortions. operation rescue brought street fighting
tactics, and what is, in effect, urban guerilla warfare, to the
anti-abortion movement. not content to lobby congress or petition the
supreme court, opres activists physically barricade clinic entrances,
vandalize property, and terrorize both women attempting to enter the
clinics and medical professionals who work within them. following the
murder of dr. david gunn in florida in march, 1993, randall terry, while
admitting that murder can never be advocated, expressed relief that at
least dr. gunn would no longer be able to murder unborn babies. following
president clinton's pledge to lift the department of defense ban on gays
and lesbians in the military, terry added opposition to changing the ban
to the operation rescue agenda.

(end quote)

randall terry is also credited with a speech that went something like "i
want you to let a wave of hate wash over you.   yes, hate is good.   our
goal is a christian nation!   we don't want equal time.   we don't want
pluralism".   is this all we need to know about operation rescue?

on the subject of the murder of dr gunn, isn't it a crime to 'inspire' a
murder or act of terrorism or something?   i seem to remember that this is
what that blind sheikh who was locked up over the world trade centre
bombing was convicted of.   so why hasn't the act been used against
randall terry?

mat

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hey everyone,

as i expected, the april 14th date for the australian
release date of "shaming of the sun" didn't happen.
i asked at hmv today and this time was told that it
was going to be released here "in three weeks".  since
i think new releases happen here on mondays, that means
it should be either may 5th or may 12th.  i'm betting
the 5th, but you never know, i could be wrong.  so keep
an eye out, aussie folk.

cheers,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"allow me someday to touch you,
  the way that you've all touched me.
  i thank you for your expressions;
  your music has set me free."          - happy rhodes

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     hmv in hong kong seems to be releasing sots on may 5th.  i asked about
     a couple weeks ago and personally saw the list for all releases for
     the month, and my very own eyes saw the indigo girl release date of
     may 5th, which is totally shocking since the rent soundtrack took ages
     to come out.

     oozing with jealousy for missing all the concerts in the states,
     holly

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from:         kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
organization: london business school
subject:      nigc - how is that spelt again?

i'm sorry to have to chastise this entire list, but only a few
listers seem to consistently post with no misspelt words (e.g. mat,
rachel, helene).  whilst some people contributed their opinions that
grammar, punctuation, and spelling are irrelevant, this really
colours my opinion of both your educational attainment and the us
educational system.  not to mention your standards of behaviour with
respect to other lister.

so, please adhere to the *correct* rules of written english, or i
will have to mark, correct, and grade every post and keep a list of
the most egregious offenders.

just my tuppence worth,
kate

[1] misspelt - spelt wrongly.  concise oxford dictionary of current
english, eighth edition, clarendon press, oxford, 1990.
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hey guys, well the end of the year is almost here and it is time for me to
leave campus e-mail.  alas, i don't remember how to unsubscribe.  so if
someone would be so kind as to send me the info i would appreciate it.
i will of course wait to see everyone elses reaction to the show on sunday
before i leave.  i hope some more list people will be at american too it
should be cool.
-amy

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all

being the origional perpertraitor of the "meetloaf" message i think it
only relevant to point a few things out. well really to ask a question of
all of you ..

did such a terrible crime actually impare your understanding of the
message .. i think not ... has anybody in all of this traffic pick up on
the thread i put down which was who would you like to hear cover an ig song.

all of you just chill a little . i doubt i'm ever gonna meet any of you
face to face or even get to a personal mail pal type thing but treat the
members of this community with some respect please.

one minute we slap each other on the backs because we are raising money
to honour the earth ... honour eachother instead please. if we can't get
along .. cut each other a bit of slack and shrug the odd typo off
everynow and again then every thing else, all the donations etc ... are
worth nothing.

if we are all willing to help a faceless cause ( no flames please i've
had enough already ) by faceless i mean one we, in our normal lives have
no contact with, simply because amy and em support them ....

i've been a member of this list for a good 2 - 2 1/2 years and i've seen
people come and go but come on guys talk about what we are here to talk
about ...

getting off the soapbox now, donning flame retardant suit and waiting for
a polite reply ...

jules

disclaimer : all spelling mistakes, grammatical errors and misuse of the
english language are mine alone and are not the views of my company ! ;-)

        when you learn to love yourself
        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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does anybody know how to get hold of one of these calendars in the uk

just askin'

jules

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        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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it's sad but it has to happen....i have to stop reading the list for a
while if i want to graduate...i probably have to pretty much give up email
at least until shaming of the sun is released, and possibly until late
may.  the immensity of the concept of a college degree just hit me
yesterday.  it's a pretty cool thing in that it represents so much time
and energy and (hopefully) education.  i didn't think about it for nearly
four years--i was too busy learning--but now i want it.  it's too close to
risk messing up now.

mandi and a few other incredible listees are doing some tremendous work
on the plan for emily's birthday present.  look for a post this weekend
or early next week to let y'all know what's happening, and *please* give
this project all the support and attention you can.  it's important.
it's a way to say "thank you" while making a difference in this world.

there are a lot of you i've been planning to write back to for a long
time.  i'm sorry i haven't yet.  it'll be a little while longer.  i
haven't forgotten about you.  if anyone really needs to get in touch with
me, i'll still be checking the ebox occasionally.  write some
stress-inducing word like "urgent" in the subject line of your message
and i'll do my best to give it attention.

thanks y'all for a great year and great friendships and conversation.
i'll be thinking of you, and i'll be back...

later,
audrey

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the other day people were speculating about the new tat amy has .. i just
found this on a news group can't vouch for the validity though

start quoted info :

she said, "it's been such a long time
since i got it...i don't remember. i was
so young and stupid!....and i just got
another one this afternoon!" i looked
around, and sure enough, there was
my tattoo artist in the stands, waving!
phil at art of the ages did a celtic knot
piece on her stomach, with zoomorphic
dogs! after the concert, i went over to
talk to him about finishing my

end quoted material

so there ya have it

later
jules

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                                                amy ray

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at 01:48 pm 4/17/97 -0400, trisha bergmann wrote:

>ok, so i looked at this web site and i was wondering if anyone has ever
>ordered anything from here??

somebody must, because she's been selling ig merchandise for quite some
time now.

> i don't want to imply anything about whoever
>maintains this site (because i have no idea) but where does this money
>go?? if somebody's selling ig music shouldn't the profits go to the girls??

that's pretty unrealistic.  rdr has built a business on the girls.  it's a
capitalist society.  if you guys will pay $250 for the ep, then someone
will sell it for that.  however, at least rdr is a legitimate business,
whereas igboo8 appears to be an individual making unreported money on resales.

speaking of rdr, i haven't seen a mention of amy's duet on the vidalias cd
(i think it's called "in the doghouse").  it's a hoot!  the vidalias are a
country band from atlanta -- very traditional country, like the elder hank
williams, and the duet with amy is a real treat.  i read about it in ice,
and called  rdr to order it.  perry had a copy, but he didn't even know
about amy being on it (there's no indication on the cd), so he said he'd
better get some more copies. :)

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in a message dated 97-04-17 14:51:19 edt, you write:


let's not start this shit again.  here's a wild and crazy thought....don't
flame anybody regardless of spelling or punctuation errors.  i really don't
need 47 posts where somebody is correcting somebody else's spelling, and
somebody else has to jump in and say that the last post wasn't gramatically
correct....you get the point.  let's just drop it, huh?

dawn


you should use more commas instead of "...."
regards,
paul wehner

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>start quoted info :
>
>she said, "it's been such a long time
>since i got it...i don't remember. i was
>so young and stupid!....and i just got
>another one this afternoon!" i looked
>around, and sure enough, there was
>my tattoo artist in the stands, waving!
>phil at art of the ages did a celtic knot
>piece on her stomach, with zoomorphic
>dogs! after the concert, i went over to
>talk to him about finishing my
>
>end quoted material

so what is a zoomorphic dog.... anyone?

is there anyone in the usa who will be going to an ig show and can get me
some merchandise? i'm curious about the deer t-shirt.

sharon. a. jennings
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univesity of nottingham
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<i am an amy person with an emily tune stuck in my head since about 9:06 pm
<tuesday night..................

<please..someone....help......me..........

;)
<

<karrie


try to remember that they both look the same upside down...

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subject:      calender deal in dc???

does anyone know of a place to but the early copy of sots
with the calender deal in dc/va or md ??

i can't wait to get my copy of the album!!!!!

scott
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this am barsky replayed last summer's in-studio session w/ig ... did anyone
happen to tape this? i was at work, needless to say....

maria v

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hey all!

i don't know about any tattoo, but i can define zoomorphism for y'all. it's one of those strange bits of info you store even when you can no longer remember your own phone number. who knows why?

zoomorphism is giving animal characteristics or attributes to a deity. also, the use of animals or animal forms/characteristics in literature/art as a symbol.

it is common to find such animals as part of celtic design. dragons, boars, dogs, and all that.

to add something of no interest to anyone, i saw many zoomorphic designs while studying in mexico. i lived in a tiny village outside of the town of colima. they have a renowned collection of pre-hispanic art and there are these little dogs - los perros de colima y nayarit. they are supposed to have the power to carry one across the rivers of blood to reach loved ones on the other side of death.

i need a cup of tea now. i am starting to remember stuff from third grade.

peace,

susan

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hi all!

i'm putting together a special graduation gift present for an obsessed indigo
girls fan.  although, aren't we all obsessed indigo girls fans!   anyway, i am
looking for a boot of the august 12, 1994 concert at red rocks.  thanks for your
help!

dave

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although i found susan's little essay on "zoomorphism" to be quite
interesting (thanks for posting that susan) i can't believe how
uncomfortable i feel that 1000+ folks on the internet now know the supposed
location and design of amy's new tatoo, plus can track down the artist
himself.  last week i felt we took a huge step forward as a list in ig's
eyes with the donation to hte in amy's name for her birthday. today i feel
we lost all those steps forward and then some. must we blab everything? is
nothing sacred???

wishing i could join susan in her cup of tea...

deb

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date:         fri, 18 apr 1997 09:16:52 -0500
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subject:      re: nigc - how is that spelt again?

spelt is very good made into breakfast cereal and used in baked goods.
sometimes it is combined with kamut, a large wheat grain that traces
its origins back to ancient egypt.  allegedly, kamut grains were found
in the pyramids.  you should be able to find spelt and kamut products
in your local natural foods store.  i don't particularly like the pasta
made from either grain as it's too gritty for my palate.  (nothing like
good old semolina!)  spelt and kamut can often be used by people that
are sensitive to wheat, but check with your doctor first if you have a
true wheat allergy.

another "alternative" grain that i find delicious is amaranth, which
one company refers to as the mystical grain of the aztecs, and claims
that the spanish tried to eliminate amaranth during their conquest of
mexico because the aztecs valued it so highly.  i've tried several
amaranth breakfast cereals which are quite tasty, as amaranth has a
unique texture and flavor.

happy munching,
fran e.

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>
>  q:  how many internet mail list subscribers does it take
> >>     to change a light bulb?
>
> >>
> >> a:  1,331:
> >>         1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
> >>           list that the light bulb has been changed
<snip>
one more at the very end, to repost the original report of light-bulb-changing
to the list, because she can't keep up with all the list mail and so wasn't
sure whether it was posted before.
:-) kirsten


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did anyone boot the recent ig show in tulsa, oklahoma? if you have the boot, i
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oklahoma, no matter when. please reply by email if you can help me.
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oh, dear!

i hope i am not going to become a victim of flamage now.

please note that i did not discuss anyone's tattoo or anything even remotely personal here. i wish i hadn't posted at all now, for i fear someone will read through too quickly and i will get caught in the firestorm. i am 100% in agreement with deb - this list is no place for such personal detail. i just saw a word there in julian's post - zoomorphic - that i knew and it sent my memory reeling back to mexico and happy days there admiring the little dogs. i meant no harm - really!

hoping not to get the heat,

susan

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delurking for a moment to holler loud!!!
my girlfriend just told me we got 2nd row for the richmond, va show....
yes!!!!!!
we've never had 2nd row for the girls before.

lisa

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okay miss kate...i guess you didn't understand my point...i am an english
major, and i can write a paper with correct puncuation.  but, in my eyes
language is an art, and i find capital letters distracting.  besides that,
with the way puncuation is going, i am sure it is going to be obsolete in
the next few decades.  many english professors will tell you it is more
important to learn grammar and punctuation and be able to use it than to
actually use it.  once again, others (like you) will sit around and wax
intellectual whilst trying to judge others.  oppression is oppression.
let others make choices.  if you are so upset by it, try to change the
system, not those effected by the 'shoddy' education that i received.

hugs not drugs
amy

p.s. all of you who are going to post to me telling me that i am sad or
anything else don't bother....i don't need any additional psychoanylists
telling me what i need....sometimes t the world is such a joke...amy


on fri, 18 apr 1997, kate blackmon wrote:

> i'm sorry to have to chastise this entire list, but only a few
> listers seem to consistently post with no misspelt words (e.g. mat,
> rachel, helene).  whilst some people contributed their opinions that
> grammar, punctuation, and spelling are irrelevant, this really
> colours my opinion of both your educational attainment and the us
> educational system.  not to mention your standards of behaviour with
> respect to other lister.
>
> so, please adhere to the *correct* rules of written english, or i
> will have to mark, correct, and grade every post and keep a list of
> the most egregious offenders.
>
> just my tuppence worth,
> kate
>
> [1] misspelt - spelt wrongly.  concise oxford dictionary of current
> english, eighth edition, clarendon press, oxford, 1990.
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subject:      (sigc) i'm going to the au concert!!!!

well, just wanted to share my excitement.  it's my first concert, y'know.  :)

anna

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good god.  am i the only one who took miss kate's posting as very tongue in cheek?  either my sense of humor is way overactive or we need to lighten up!  give it a rest, folks.  it's a listserv, not an academic seminar.

kim
kpaulus@mpinc.com


>okay miss kate...i guess you didn't understand my point...i am an english
>major, and i can write a paper with correct puncuation.  but, in my eyes
>language is an art, and i find capital letters distracting.  besides that,
>with the way puncuation is going, i am sure it is going to be obsolete in
>the next few decades.  many english professors will tell you it is more
>important to learn grammar and punctuation and be able to use it than to
>actually use it.  once again, others (like you) will sit around and wax
>intellectual whilst trying to judge others.  oppression is oppression.
>let others make choices.  if you are so upset by it, try to change the
>system, not those effected by the 'shoddy' education that i received.

>hugs not drugs
>amy

>p.s. all of you who are going to post to me telling me that i am sad or
>anything else don't bother....i don't need any additional psychoanylists
>telling me what i need....sometimes t the world is such a joke...amy


>on fri, 18 apr 1997, kate blackmon wrote:

>> i'm sorry to have to chastise this entire list, but only a few
>> listers seem to consistently post with no misspelt words (e.g. mat,
>>rachel, helene).  whilst some people contributed their opinions that
>> grammar, punctuation, and spelling are irrelevant, this really
>> colours my opinion of both your educational attainment and the us
>> educational system.  not to mention your standards of behaviour with
>> respect to other lister.
>>
>> so, please adhere to the *correct* rules of written english, or i
>> will have to mark, correct, and grade every post and keep a list of
>> the most egregious offenders.
>>
>> just my tuppence worth,
>> kate
>>
>> [1] misspelt - spelt wrongly.  concise oxford dictionary of current
>> english, eighth edition, clarendon press, oxford, 1990.

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hey! they're about to play soy (or some track from sots) on 99.7 . it's
11:42 right now...
      julie

        "i saw the way other people thought, and it was
         an amazement to me - step by step, not in
         bubbles up from chaos..."
                        -audre lorde, _sister_outsider_

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  hey everyone,

  i've got a huge problem and was wondering if anyone could help out...

  i was promised three tickets to the au concert by a student there.  in
addition to charging me $20 per ticket, i'm pretty sure he found someone
else to sell them to, and didn't bother telling me until this morning.  the
concert was supposed to be a present for my roommate and i have been
planning and scheming for quite a while to pull this off.  i have been
giving her hints for a week and she still has no idea where we are going.
the look on her face would have been priceless, but now i have been shafted
on the tickets...

  here is my plea.  i really need three tickets to the au concert.  i will
pay for them.  i will even go so far as to trade _one_ ticket to either of
the wolf-trap shows for them (come on, guys, a fella can't do much more
than that!).  if there is anyone out there that can help, please let me
know as soon as possible.  i don't want this weekend to go up in smoke.  i
really want it to come off and i really want to meet some of you before the
end of may!

  thanks in advance,

  miah, who just checked to make sure everything was spelled correctly!

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i love "seasons of love", too, but i agree that "take me or leave me" or "i'll cover you"
(my personal favorite song on rent, a step above the above mentioned two and "la vie
boheme") would sound great recorded by a&e.  jcs is sooo cool, better than the
original, and another broadway cover would be awesome.


a slight tangent, and nigc, but my best friend posted this question to me and it really
made me think.  if you were going to some deserted island and could only take 5 of you
personal cd collection, which 5 would they be?  this took me weeks to answer...as soon
as some fellow indigos answer, i'll post my primo 5.  remember, these 5 cds are going
to be your only source of music.  have fun!!!!!

alisa
"i'm only this far and only tomorrow leads my way."...dave matthews
"....and our sights set on zion."...es

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other alternate cereals are: emmer, teff, triticale, einkorn, and quinoa

anna whipkey

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teensy weensy little favour to ask anyone who gets the chance to talk to the
girls (or russell for that matter)...

after you've picked your chin up off the floor and regained your composure,
could you ever so nicely enquire as to when they plan to tour the rest of
the world...pretty please?

also, anyone in the know, will the cd with extra multimedia stuffy be
released in the uk, and if so, at the same time or later than the audio cd?

yours curiously,

seffy

p.s. play the 'hmmm...i wonder which girl they could be writing about?' game...

"you know she's got good manners, if only by the way she stands up straight
behind her microphone"

"she storms across the stage like no one ever told her acoustic guitars
aren't "axes"."

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i think i spelled that right...oh, well.
anyway...i think i missed something. how do i get my grubby little hands
on the calendar? if someone could email e privately and let me know, that
would be great...
and second, i just wanted to say good luck to all you college students on
the list...finals are slowly creeping up on us, and i, for one, am already
losing my mind. not that that's an uncommon occurrence, or anything,
but...anyway, good luck...and don't study too hard. take some time to
relax...it'll be worth it in the end.
(one last finals note...my roommate's mom is a goddess!!! she sent
usbrownies, chocolate covered espresso beans, and, best of all...water
pistols!!! go,mrs. ney!!!)

meg

*'cause you know i know better
but i don't want to go...*

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at 11:51 am 4/18/97 -0400, jeramiah dooley wrote:

>  i was promised three tickets to the au concert by a student there.  in
>addition to charging me $20 per ticket, i'm pretty sure he found someone
>else to sell them to, and didn't bother telling me until this morning.

that's why the universities should ask for student ids *at the door*,
instead of when tickets are picked up.

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at 12:05 pm 4/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>that's why the universities should ask for student ids *at the door*,
>instead of when tickets are picked up.
>
i'm not sure why you sent this.   if the universities did that, a lot less
people would attend the concerts.  in any case, the system works fine.  i
was screwed by a person, not the system.

miah


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ok guys lets get this straight

the tat thing ... i simply reposted what was already available. now
whilst i guess that isn't an excuse it does mean that any one of you
people could have found the information for yourselves. secondly i don't
think i crosses any lines regarding list etiqutte etc ... the information
does not contain anything personal, like a name included on a tat ( not
taht there is one ) or what colour underware amy was wearing at that
time.

the attitude thing .. ladies and gentlemen quite frankly i'm sick of the
attitude of what can and connot be left to ride in a simple e-mail. why
we can't let the odd typo go  let an opinion, other than what the
individuals reading the posts agree with is beyond me. i guess that we
are all adults on this list. frankly i'm beginning to wonder. i almost
left after the whole mat web ring saga not so long ago but now that's it
i've thrown in the towel.

i'm sorry to go, the list has been great insight into the girls, their
music and what there beliefs are. however the members of this list and
the holier than thou' attitude is too much. so goodbye. i'm sorry i know
i'm gonna miss out on a lot of good things. british tour dates, boot
offers and general conversation. just remember that each and everyone of
us has the opportunity to vote with our feet. if you don't like reading
mail about things other then ig don't come here and don't chatise those
that want to talk about the various topics that get covered here.

i'll miss ya but i can't help feeling a certain sense of relief

jules

        when you learn to love yourself
        you will dissolve all the stones that are cast ..
                                                amy ray

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at 12:48 pm 4/18/97 -0400, jeramiah dooley wrote:
>at 12:05 pm 4/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>that's why the universities should ask for student ids *at the door*,
>>instead of when tickets are picked up.
>>
>i'm not sure why you sent this.   if the universities did that, a lot less
>people would attend the concerts.

no -- a lot *more* students would attend, and a lot *fewer* people who
bought tickets scalped from students who don't give a damn about the show.
i think it's great that ig have done a promo tour for the press and record
folk, and a college tour for students, and then a general tour for everyone
else.

>in any case, the system works fine.  i
>was screwed by a person, not the system.

the people really screwed by the system are the 3 au students that won't
get to go because this guy sold student tix to non-students.  but honestly,
i would've bought them too.  i just think it's stupid that they don't check
student ids at the door instead of at the ticket counter.

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it looks like the la salle show is either going to be cancelled, relocated, or
changed to a different date b/c it's way too cold out, & a&e were worried about
safety.  jen & i are going to the sonic session now, so we won't be here to give
out tickets.  we'll be back here later & call 951-1371 for info.  if i have your
tickets, i'll save them & they will be good for whatever they decide.  you still
have to pay for them!

andi

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hello all
  i know we haven't decided on which organization we're giving money to,
but i heard that we'll be voting on that soon... i spoke to the woman who
is in charge of fund-raising for youthpride (which is one word, for those
who care, but i wouldn't _flame_ anyone over it). she is going to send me
their mission statement in the mail, which i will type out for the list.
also, she said that the girls have recorded a previously unreleased song
for a forthcoming cd that will benefit youthpride. she's sending me info
on that, too, so don't email me b/c i'll type it out when i get it.
(although you can always email me for friendly conversation:) anyway, viva
la diva, shawn mullins, belloluna and some other bands have contributed
songs to the cd, too. so there's the scoop for now. i'll keep you posted.
and, btw, even if we only decide to give money to one organization, let's
remember that we don't need someone to have a birthday in order to support
whichever organization. (i hope that makes sense)
  peace,
      julie

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         an amazement to me - step by step, not in
         bubbles up from chaos..."
                        -audre lorde, _sister_outsider_

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top five cds for gretchen's desert island:
1200 curfews, immaculate collection  (madonna), dilate (ani difranco),
automatic for the people (rem), fumbling towards ecstasy (sarah mclachlan)

happy weekend, gretchen
hoff@fas.harvard.edu

now what about top five books?

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subject:      ig at tower records...

hello out there in indigoland...
i cannot remember if i sent this before or not so if i did, i'm sorry
for the repost...
anyway, a + e will be at tower records in atlanta on the 29th of this
month, as i'm sure most of you are aware.  i'm working on organizing
a little get together just before the show.  realize that i live 7
hrs away from atlanta, but i think i can figure this out anyway.  so
far i have talked w/ a few of you who are planning on coming, and
i'll get back to y'all about more details. as of now, the exact
details aren't planned, but if ya wanna meet us, e me and i'll let
you in on any details we have!!
we are driving down monday night and staying in a hotel there and
killing time tuesday in atlanta  before we go to tower.. anyone else
coming from a long way???
hope to meet w some of y'all soon!!
cindy

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if you people were as tolerant of other people's misspellings,
grammatical, and punctuatory gaffes as you want everyone else to be of
(most of) your "alternate lifestyles," the list would be a much more
pleasant place and there wouldn't be as much crap for those of us who
_are_ tolerant to have to wade through in order to find gems of actual
indigo girls content herein.

flame me all you want, oh intolerant ones, because every post i get
for the next week is going straight to the trash, unread.  when i
come back next week i hope and pray you will all have moved beyond
this.

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hey y'all....
just a quick note on the au show....each student was sent 2 free tickets in
the mail so that they could take a friend from off campus if they want.  i
don't know if everyone was automatically given two tickets or if they had to
fill out a form saying whether they were interrested or not.  my ticket is
coming from a person who had the extra ticket and didn't need it.  so
chances are, this guy who ripped miah off just collected the extra tickets
frim people on his hall and decided to capitalize on the whole thing.  in
theory, the two ticket thing is a great idea, but it's just that greedy guy
who really abused the system.  if students have extra tickets, there might
be alot of people scalping them at the show.  so miah, if you feel like
taking your friend for an adventure, you guys just might be able to get in
anyway :)  hope this cleared a few things up!

happy happy day!

mere

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hey all,

just tried the info number & they said to call after 4pm.  i guess that's
when they're making the decision.  anyhow, since its long distance for me,
and getting through may be a little tough, would some local kind soul update
us as close to 4 as you can.
we're coming in from harrisburg and looking to leave around 4.  we'll
probably stay put until we get an answer.
i kind of figured i'd wear the winter version of my newport raingear.  it
won't be pretty, but i'd be warm!  so, until 4...

terri

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got my tickets in the mail today for the great woods show... so psyched!
i'm a virgin ig concert goer and have heard so many wonderful stories from
you guys.  i'm really looking forward to going.  :) :) :)

thought you guys would appreciate my enthusiasm! :)

-- samantha

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you and the listees of the 10,000 wars,
dividing life into factions of pleasures and chores,
a list to be read and a list to whine in;
a look at the harsher side,
our hearts set on denying;

the heart of a skeptic and the mind of a child,
put that post into a box, don't let my imagination run wild,
pour cement on delete,
the heart and mind on a parallel course,
never the two shall meet...


de

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subject:      desert island

my top five has changed drastically over the last few years.
here it is as it stands in 1997.  i think this one will last awhile:

1.  indigo girls - "nomads+indians+saints"
2.  melissa etheridge - "brave and crazy"
3.  october project - "falling farther in"
4.  sarah mclachlan - "fumbling towards ecstacy"
5.  paula cole - "harbinger"

am i a freak?

teddi

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saw this on the folk music newsgroup...(reprinted without permission of
the poster)

"i read on joni mitchell's home page this morning that joni has cancelled
her interview on 20/20 with barbara walters because she is
busy trying to complete her new album.  she feels that
the subject of her reunion with her daughter has garnered enough publicity
now and she wants to get back to work...."


nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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on thu, 17 apr 1997 owner-indigo-girls@netspace.org wrote:
> "get out the map, get out the map and lay your finger down anywhere..."
> i am an amy person with an emily tune stuck in my head since about 9:06 pm
> tuesday night..................
> please..someone....help......me..........

karrie, ducky, whenever i have any tune stuck in my head i do the
following...immediately begin to sing the song "could we start again
please" (jcss - film version) while squatting in any doorway..this has
never failed for me. don't thank me, just pass on this sage advice.

peace, kim n.v.

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mine would be:

1200 curfews
etheridge _live at the bottom line_
shawn colvin, _steady on_
ani difranco, _not so soft_
tracy chapman, _new beginning_


                               jamie a suthard
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subject:      la salle cancelled

the la salle show has been cancelled. i called and the woman directed me to a
recording that said more info will be given this tuesday, april 22. that
number (in case anyone wants to hear it) is (215) 951-1910. hope people from
far away get this message in time.

yen m tang      "but what it takes to cross the great divide
                 seems more than all the courage i can muster up inside
emily saliers    but we get to have some answers when we reach the other side
wrote that -->   the prize is always worth the rocky ride..."

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subject:      re: ig at lasalle univ. in philly
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hey,

well, its 4:43pm & i just got it confirmed the show's off for tonight.  we
had everything set, and now its shot in the butt.  thanks for the earlier
post alerting us the show might not be on.  if i'd have driven 2 hours from
harrisburg to find the show postponed, i'd be an even unhappier camper.  i
hope anyone else travelling got the news before setting out.  if i go on,
i'll just bitch & moan, so...see ya.

terri

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hi,

could someone please send me, privately, the
phone number for daemon.  i need to check on
an order and misplaced the number.

thanks...tt

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subject:      i just did a naughty thing

having been on this list for the better part of a year i would think not to
send requests to the list...i sent the darn "signoff" thing.  however, i will
be signing off again for a while.  with a thesis to work on, every other bit
of life has to be put aside for now.  i'll still be keeping "planet indigo"
(http://www.geocities.com/5482/indigo.html) as current as i can, and of
course will be posting a review of sots as soon as it comes out (reserved my
copies on vinyl and cd today!!!)  best wishes to everyone.

mary kushman

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subject:      (nigc) deirdre lynch, are you out there?

sorry to waste bandwidth, but i've been trying to contact deirdre lynch
regarding her boot of the unh show and gotten no response for four days. if you
know how i could get a response, or, better yet, you are her {:-)} please
respond.
kirsten

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forgive me if this is old news...  i'm on digest format and the most
recent one i have is from about 3pm this afternoon.  the la salle show
has been cancelled -- i heard from a friend there at 4:30 that the bus
rolled out and the stage was being disassembled, and then i called for
the official word...

if you want info on rescheduling or refunds (i don't know which they'll
do), the machine there says wait 'til tuesday (apr. 22) and call 951-1371
for details.  the tix say "rain or shine" and they don't say anything
about "no refund," so i plan on insisting on getting mine back.

does anybody know who makes these decisions?  i mean, it's taking all
the self control i've got not to be mad at the girls themselves...  i
know we've all been looking forward to this show for a while, and hell,
it's not even raining, and it's warmer than they were saying it was going
to be!

hope i haven't been redundant (i'll see when i get the next digest
though....)

debbie the very angry but somewhat under control indigeek  :)

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hey y'all


i'm sure this will have ben asked already, but forgive me, i've been off
the list for a while, so...
i see the dates for gigs in the states, but anyone here when and where
the girls will be coming to the uk??


regards


andrew

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the la salle show was cancelled.  a&e said it was the first time they've
ever cancelled a show, but they're going to work something out.  (either
reschedule it or refund money, i guess.)  i'll e-mail my ticket people
later w/ info.

anyway, jen, audrey, & i just got back from the y100 sonic session, which
rocked!  it was so cool to be so close to them!  they weren't able to stick
around afterwards for pictures or autographs, which made me sad, but it was
cool anyway.  i think i had a permanent grin on my face!

the setlist was:

get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
(little q & a session)
cara mia
shame on you
hey kind friend
galileo

i have to go out now, but i'll post more later about this...

andi


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                                andrea lipman
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                 homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

                    "cause baby, i got something to stand for
                          i got somewhere we can go
                    i just need someone to stand with
                it ain't no good just being alone."-amy ray
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quick, indigo girls in bigger print and a picture of amy and
emily,that's all i ask
ben

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my top 5 dids today:

        indigo girls, 1200 curfews
        melissa ferrick, willing to wait
        ani difranco, out of range
        shawn colvin, a few small repairs
        melissa etheridge, brave and crazy


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subject:      list t-shirts?

i know there is talk of list shirts maybe coming out in late fall.  but how
does that help those of us who are gonna see them in the summer?  its not
like i need a list shirt to enjoy the girls.  but it would be cool if we
could come up with something that can be easily purchased and easily
identifiable in some way.  i plan on going to the l.a. greek theatre shows
(there are 2 right?) and to the berkeley greek theatre shows (also 2 there?)
in july and it would be nice to somehow pick out the list people in the
crowd.  ideas anyone?  also don't forget the l.a tickets go on sale this
sunday.  for those of you who don't have the number its (213)480-7575.

i am sure i am not the only one who is overwhelmed by the amount of nigc
content mail that is showing up on the list, on top of the actual igc content
mail.  i don't see anything wrong with igc and nigc content mail.  but can we
drop the spelling thread....please?  i think some of us are better at
spelling than others...but does it have to be a discussion???  also there is
no way that some of us can possibly read all the mail on the list.  so if you
don't have information but rather a question...can
you put a question mark in your subject line....so those of us that to chose
to can bypass that mail?

thanks for listening......also if anyone finds any spelling errors in my
post, please send email to spellingpolice@aol.com  ;-)

rose

p.s.  loop thirteen are you out there?  :-)

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self titled
nomads indians saints
swamp ophelia
1200 curfews
joan baez, play me backwards.

mmm hmm.  could live several years on these and a shed-full of cap'n
crunch!

yours,
chris ii

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1)indigo girls: strange fire/1200 curfews(depends on the day)
2)sarah mclachlan: fumbling towards ecstasy
3)rent soundtrack
4)u2: joshua tree
5)grateful dead: american beauty

ask me in two hours and the list will probably change, but these tend to be
fairly common.

sari

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hi everyone! i am new to this list- 3 days old, but i thought i'd share
some stuff. i just got confirmation yesterday on my ticket to the ig show
down here in san diego on july 1st! i'm still really shakey, and really
excited. i supposedly have a seat a little to the left side of the stage,
within the first 15 rows! i'm going with a group (at least 15 of us that
i know of) and it's just going to kick ass. finally something to look
forward to ( besides their new album).  while i'm here, not that anyone
asked, but here's the 5 cd's i would take with me if i were standed on a
desert island:

indigo girls- 1200 curfews
ani difranco- dilate
indigo girls- swamp ophelia
melissa etheridge- brave and crazy/ yes i am (i can't decide, but they
count           as my last two choices)

~andy

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alright.  enough is enough.  i figured after 24 hours this would die, but to
no avail.

let me give you a little analogy here.  did you ever have a friend who
flubbed up a word, and as soon as it happened, you just keep repeating it
just to poke a little fun? you don't do it to be mean, you're just being
funny and all have a little laugh....emily said "you have to laugh at
yourself, 'cuz you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't," right?   i had a
friend once who was making drinks for us...she made frozen mudslides (they
were delicious... :o)...  well, when i was done with mine, she said "you
want another mudlide?"  [notice no "s"...she didn't say "mudslide"...she
said "mudlide"...]  well, that cracked us up, and we all started saying "ok,
i'll have another mudlide!  does anyone else want a mudlide?  i love the way
you make mudlides...they are sooo good!"

this is part of my sense of humor...when i flub up like that, i usually poke
fun at myself and start using the flub-up over and over again...and that's
all i was doing the other day with "spelt."

if you are new to the list, you may not know that a few months ago, this
same issue came up with regard to mark and his open choice not to correct
spelling errors in his posts.  i was the first one to jump to his defense
when others started to flame him...ergo, i am the last person who would
flame him now.

so come on....i want this to be the last word on misspellings....i was
*only* playing.

i don't get it...my report card always said "plays well with others."  what
went wrong?

now, let's all take a deeeeeep breath...now, smile...come on, you can do
it...!  :o)

if anyone still has questions or comments, please feel free to email me....ok?

have a good one everyone!

joni :o)

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so i was on the bus going home from a soccer game.  wait, more
important, one of the coaches looks seriously like emily (circa swamp
ophelia).  so every time i looked up and saw her it would kind of weird
me out because i was of course listening to ig.  but what was really
weird was after the game we were all getting settled into our places
and talking about the game and someone started to talking to
emily-coach about how they had just lost 14 to nothing.  i'm walking
past them at this point and em-coach says, "you have to laugh at
yourself sometimes... which i finished with, 'cuz you'd cry your eyes
out if you didn't! (she looked at me weird).  i wonder if she has 1200
curfews.
    i was also wondering if anyone (sorry i can't touch type so i
didn't realize i pushed caps lock) knows whether we will eventually be
able to get those nifty calenders at music stores or whatever.
    and... ohmigod, thank you chickenman for the houston boot!!!!  i
nearly fainted when i heard touch me fall.  i will not be
complacent!!!!!

    i'm finished, sorry for the waste of bw,
        leah

what doesn't bend breaks...

every tool is a weapon if you hold it right...

        -ani difranco

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        hi y'all,

        well i just arrived back home after what i would call an interesting day.
we arrived at the venue around 11am...just in time to watch the stage crew
begin to strike the stage.  after various conversations with the crew, the
girls tour manager, sulli and lasalle production staff it had been pretty
much decided that at 12:30pm everything was to be loaded up in preparation
for a cancellation or the distant chance of finding another venue.

        for those that are a bit miffed that the show was canceled...it wasn't
just cuz of the rain...it was because the girls care about us <g>...and
they didn't feel like exposing themselves to a stage that might break apart
in strong winds.  (this is not a dig on the stage construction...but just a
statement of fact...and almost a direct quote from amy...)

        we left to go to the sonic session (nope i didn't have a pass, but since i
was the driver, they let me in anyway...) with still no confirmation
whether the show was a go.

        anyway, andi already posted the set list for the session...and it did
rock.  there were about 75 people in the studio and for the first time ever
since the way beginnings of the demo tour...there was absolute silence
while they performed...i was in shock!!
        you could hear each guitar part perfectly clearly...and i have a new
appreciation for emily's skill on the dulcimer.  and for those keeping
count...yep, amy broke a string on "galileo"...

        my favorite banter part...someone asked amy about her new tattoo (wasn't
me i swear <g>...but she brought it up at psu so i figured it was fair
game...) and her response...  "uh uh"...as in "no way i'm answering this
one..."
        no one actually stuck around for autographs or pics cause we were told the
girls were on a very tight time schedule...and all being the polite fans we
always are (right everyone???), we allowed ourselves to be herded out meekly.

        one last thing before i end...emily most definitely said that something is
being worked out...i think they're trying for a reschedule (the tour
manager also mentioned this), but everyone should make sure to call (215)
951-1910 this tuesday for more information.  and if you were getting tix
from andi, she'll be posting later on with all that stuff.

        take it easy,

                        jen

"hey holy, console me, some power controls me
remorse it, i force it
can't free it, so be it"     ar

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subject:      kmtt boot

i just got my copy of this (thank you, simone********)  and i had to share my
favorite quotes with y;'all.  i bet you can guess who said this:
"emily broke a string!!!!!  that rocks!!!!!!"   :)

there was a brief q&a while amy tuned up and i love this:  someone asked
emily what the b-grade movie was from c2f.  i think she was grabbing out of a
hat when she said "buffy the vampire...killer.....slayer.....whatever....i
never saw that movie!"  :)

sorry for you guys who've already heard kmtt i know you already know this but
i had to talk about it anyweay  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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subject:      re: top five

    um......actually i have thought about this question often.  i have a tendency to
wonder off and day dream.  damn over active imagination of mine.

1.  1200 curfews ig
2.   rites of passage ig
3.   pat benatar - best shots
4.   bach: magnificat/vivaldi: gloria   (hey stop laughing)
5.   handel: messiah

oh btw does any one else keep there ig stuff and other bands important to them  in order by date.  all my friends laugh at me when they see this.

fellow list member
heather  (the not so new one)
at me

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        thank you, seona bae <sb2@axe.humboldt.edu>, for posting the web site
search advice... i just had a good time there loitering on the web... but
ya' know what?  i found the dolls' movies... well... ~~~creepy~~~~
        especially the one with the dark haired doll (i find it sort of scary to
refer to it as an amy-doll, so i shall not) opening and closing its eyes
while  ghostly images wandered behind.  this is the "fan survey movie" one.
         i also must wonder about the fact that the "fan survey" page sports a
picture of emily holding her hand over the camera lens while amy is
apparently laughing behind.  sigh... another function of their being
uncomfortable with the fans you think?  this makes me feel a bit sad.
someone please convince me i am misunderstanding the point, eh?  lie to me
if you must.

        this is so cool to have a list that is actually discussing ic for the most
part!!!  not that i don't enjoy grape nuts, indigo swirl, lessons in
grammar and spelling, and the like... but this is such an improvement.  i
bet even flamer... errr... amy ...is  smiling more lately.  see ?  even i
stuck to igc.

tracy - wonderin' where da' heck my kim goddess is lately....


"mrs. peel, we're needed."
        - the avengers
~~~^~^~~~~^~^~^~^~~~~^~~~^~^^~~~^
the whole crew is back w/ our mountains!
  tracy, true, holly dabear, and tanner darat  <^\____)

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now with a web page i am only slightly afraid of sharing...
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/5195/

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subject:      cd's for a desert island

i have loved seeing everyone else's choices!  here's my five:

jethro tull--songs from the wood
echolyn--as the world turns
indigo girls--swamp ophelia
faith no more--king for a day  <--for those angry moods!
grateful dead--american beauty


have a good weekend everyone.

kelly
kfairbairn@stonehill.edu

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subject:      re: psu review

jen lucero wrote:

>>then someone asked what amy's tattoo meant, and she replied "it's
been so long...when i was young and foolish".  then she added she had just
gotten a new tattoo that day..."painful...but i almost fell asleep at the
end..."<<

amy has a new tattoo??????  i wanna see!!!!!!!!  anybody have any info on
this new development?  i'm still trying to get a good enough pic of the first
one to replicate it!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)

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for all who are lazy like me or deleted accidently or.. or.... ad nauseum...

http://www.music.sony.com/music/test/theoutsideworld/indigogirls/index.html


ain't i nice?

tracy - slowly getting over her total panic of earlier today witnessed,
sadly, by karey the great

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sorry folks....
veronica..i got an envelope today containing a tape liner...is there
also a tape coming in the mail? there was no e-mail addy, no note
...just the liner.....just wondering...:)
tracy

right now i'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. i think i've forgotten this before...-steven wright
"well, okay...let's just say that someone was fleeing from somewhere, looked back at someone, and got turned into a pillar of salt.."-k.c.

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hello everyone..this is a petition to support american airlines for their
support of gay and lesbian organisations..please read the background and
sign the petition if you feel that you should..and please feel free to
forward this to anyone who might be interested.

thank you

siti

>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >background:
> > american airlines is a major sponsor to and supporter of groups like
> >gladd, the human rights campaign, the gay and lesbian victory fund, the
aids
> >action foundation, diffa, amfar, and scores of community-based
> >groups representing gays and lesbians.  it is also the first airline to
> >adopt a written non-discrimination policy covering sexual orientation in
> >its employment practices.
> > in an unusual joint letter was released to the media on friday, march
> >14th from the family research council, concerned women of america,
> >american family association and coral ridge ministries. radical right
> >leader beverly lahaye also went on christian "talk radio" on friday to
> >blast american airlines because "american's sponsorship of homosexual
> >'pride' events constitutes an open endorsement of promiscuous
> >homosexuality."  she and the other groups have written bob crandall at
> >american to complain that the airline has  "gone beyond mere tolerance"
of
> >gays and lesbians.  the full article appeares in friday's fort worth
> >star-telegram, and possibly picked up by other newspapers around the
country.
> > it has come to the attention of the gay and lesbian community that
> >american airline's switchboard and e-mails are being bombarded now by
> >homophobic and hateful callers who have been urged by lahaye and others
> >to demand the company terminate its gay-friendly policies.
>
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> >---
> >
> >***if you are the 25th, 50th, 75th, 100th, etc. person to sign this
> >petition then please forward this to american airlines at:
> >webmaster@amrcorp.com ***
> >
> >to american airlines: we, the undersigned, support your gay/lesbian
rights
> >polices and commend you for your efforts in ending discrimination. thank
> >you for your dedication to such issues and please continue to remain
> >active in the struggle to end discrimination.
> >
> >
> >1. marybeth kurtz, philadelphia, pa
> >
> >2. jen faust, goucher college, balto. md
> >
> >3. sarah pinsker, goucher college, balto. md
> >
> >4. rebecca olin, amherst college, amherst ma
> >
> >5. david beckman, amherst college, amherst, ma
> >
> >6. amanda austin, smith college, northampton, ma
> >
> >7. joan prusky, detroit, mi and northampton, ma
> >
> >8. elizabeth kennedy, nyc and smith college, northampton, ma
> >
> >9. lindsey stowe-berns, nyc and oberlin college, oberlin, oh
> >
> >10. jill rothstein, nyc and oberlin college
> >
> >11. julie cross, miami and oberlin college
> >
> >12. chris morris, oberlin college, oberlin, oh
> >
> >13. katherine shorb, tokyo and oberlin college
> >
> >14. maria mergel, tokyo and oberlin college
> >
> >15. ayako honda, tokyo and simmons college
> >
> >16. megan callaghan, simmons college
> >
> >17. ashley benfield, university of puget sound, wa
> >
> >18. emily elizabeth huigens, kenyon college, oh
> >   -albert einstein
> >
> >19. fatin abdal-sabur, new jersey and kenyon college gambier, oh
> >
> >20. dara avenius, bryn mawr college, pa
> >
> >21. amy spears, denison university, granville, oh
> >
> >22. david ziegler, denison university, granville, oh
> >
> >23. casandra vasu, denison university, granville, oh
> >
> >24. karen merten, denison university, granville, oh
> >
> >25. robert weemhoff, illinois wesleyan university, bloomington, il
> >
> >26. michele papadopoulos, illinois state university, normal, il
> >
> >27. melissa silverman, illinois state university, normal, il
> >
> >28. amy short, chemeketa community college, salem, or
> >
> >29. christine grabig, michigan technological university, calumet, mi
> >
> >30. craig dyni, michigan state university, east lansing, mi
> >
>  31. tone smith, kentucky state university,frankfort, ky
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> >32. rashima t. williams, gannon university, erie, pa
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benfield, university of puget sound, wa<br>> ><br>> >18. =
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university, granville, oh<br>> ><br>> >24. karen merten, =
denison university, granville, oh<br>> ><br>> >25. robert =
weemhoff, illinois wesleyan university, bloomington, il<br>> =
><br>> >26. michele papadopoulos, illinois state university, =
normal, il<br>> ><br>> >27. melissa silverman, illinois =
state university, normal, il<br>> ><br>> >28. amy short, =
chemeketa community college, salem, or<br>> ><br>> >29. =
christine grabig, michigan technological university, calumet, mi<br>> =
><br>> >30. craig dyni, michigan state university, east =
lansing, mi<br>> ><br>>  31. tone smith, kentucky state =
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dr. pitre wrote:
>>you are better off than the college girl from tcu who asked a 93.3 person
at the fort worth concert..." so now, which one of them is melissa?"<<

lololololo)lolololololololololololol

peace, harmony & indigo,

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me cause i'm gay...."- e.saliers
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***tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet****  blowing whistle

before we get another thread started, can i ask everyone not to post their
pro/anti-choice sentiments to the list?

i was an accident y'all, and my mother tried to abort me and did not succeed.
luckily i wasn't damaged physically but i have a lot of mental adhd and
things like that.  please let's not get this started.  we have better things
to talk about.

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in order of importance:

1. paul mccartney- wild life
2. indigo girls- swamp ophelia
3. paul mccartney- ram
4. indigo girls- 1200 curphews
5. joan baez- diamonds and rust


damn! i could name about 20 more, but these would have to be the top.

jendy

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after thinking long and hard, i would have to say that the five cd's that i
would have to have with me, and i usually do;-)  would have to be:

grateful dead--reckoning
steely dan--aja
indigo girls--1200 curfews
neil young--harvest
rem--dead letter office


though i would go crazy on a desert island without my ~400 bootlegs;-) and
my macintosh!!!


--luzi

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subject:      richmond show?

a good friend in hometown richmond was able to get us tickets.  what a relief
- we are too daggone old to sit on the grass for long periods of time :), and
i knew i wouldn't have any free time to order this a.m.

anyway, we are coming from charlottesville and even though we've only been
here for less than a year, whenever i go to richmond, i feel like i a
character from a walton's episode going to the "big city."  talk about
sensory overload - not just going to richmond but to an ig concert... whoa.

actually, i am to the point that going to the grocery store is an "experience
to cherish."

is anyone going to babe's afterwards?  is there someway we can recognize each
other as list folks?

thanks,
kathy

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--- joni wrote:
i don't get it...my report card always said "plays well with others."  what
went wrong?
--- end of quoted material ---

okay, i can vouch for that :) she's the nicest ever gang, please leave her
alone!

in ig related news, i finally (thanks pj!) got my tapes for the emory/unc
boots, so if y'all are aquarians, puhleeze write me and i'll setcha up

and eat cheese, cause if you don't you might misspell words

random thunkins brought to you by susanna

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these are the last 2 pages of the calendar
that werent posted earlier (and whoever did post it...
wow..pat yourself on the back!!)

page 17:

indigo girls trivia

indigo girls have never written a song together.  they write separately,
then collaborate on the harmonies/arrangements.

indigo girls have toured and/or played with rem, mary chapin carpenter,
the grateful dead, neil young, the cramps, sonic youth, the violent
femmes, queen latifah, joan baez, neville brothers, jackson browne, sarah
mclauchlan.

amy and emily met in elementary school in atlanta.  they began performing
together in high school in 1980 as saliers and ray.

the name indigo girls came from the dictionary.  amy ray was thumbing
through and fell upon indigo.  amy says "it's a deep blue, a root....
real earthy."

indigo girls made their motion picture debut in "boys on the side"
with whoopi goldberg, drew barrymore and mary louise parker.  they
appear as a bar band in the movie.

their first recording was issued in 1985 on their own indigo label.
"crazy game" was the a-side, and "everybody's waiting for someone to
come home" was on the b-side.

page 18:

1989 "_indigo girls_ is an album full of saline nouveau folk songs by
two gifted writer-performers.  the indigos have their own roots in the
up-front message music of th (sic) early '60's and the more abstruse
lyrical digressions of the georgia rock band rem; it's an intriguing
combination and one that merits nurturing." time        "the indigo
girls have simply made the best debut album this year." the boston globe

1990 nomads*indians*saints - "world problems got you down?  the opening
cut of amy ray and emily salier's nomads*indians*saints may give you an
altruistic nudge and help get you up and about.  that rousing start is
just a sample.  the deeper one gets into the record, the richer the songs."
people
live at the uptown lounge

1991 back on the bus, y'all

1992 "the indigo girls continued their astounding ascent from coffeehouses
to concert halls by releasing _rites of passage_, an impassioned outpouring
of folkish rock and rockline indie folk.  and if that wasn't just about
enough, the duo embarked on one of the year's best tours." rolling stone 1992
yearbook

1994 "the just released cd _swamp ophelia_ is indigo girls' most complex
and satisfying album." time
"hail to thee, fiery spirits; fragile folk birds thou never wert." people


1995 "the music absolutely leaps from the speakers as the indigos barely
fit what they have to say on two 79-minute digital biscuits.  the band
performances are charged and exciting, and of course, the harmonies are
spot on.  it's not often a live album takes you right to the front row,
but _1200 curfews_ does, rivaling their coolest work." the gavin report

"uplifting home video _watershed_ finger-paints it'sway through 10 years
of songwriting, performance, video-making, and all the experiences that
have come along with them... there is positively no "filler" here." billboard


___________________________

now dianne and i talked this am
her and i disagreeon the first bit of trivia
so what do ya'll think?? haven amy and em written
songs together before??
and i was especially careful to type exactly what was
on the liner..except i should say they used the typography
from every album alongside the comments
and (for us photo buffs) photographs in the calendar by
keri pickett, mary ellen mark *cool!!*, risa zaitschek-noah
design: gillian wong

whew, with indigo love, anjeanette the indi-genue (ok i *did* make it up)
~~~
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though i do not know the color of the sky.
                        ~bronwen dickey, memorializing her father, j. dickey
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here are my top 5......

1.  melissa etheridge- melissa etheridge (the red album for you mle hard core
        fans).

2.  indigo girls- strange fire
3.  gordon lightfoot-  gord's gold
4.  disappear fear-  deep soul diver
5.  the pretenders-  isle of view

think i could get any more acoustic??

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at 1:28 pm -0400 4/18/97, deb wrote:
>at 12:48 pm 4/18/97 -0400, jeramiah dooley wrote:
>>at 12:05 pm 4/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>that's why the universities should ask for student ids *at the door*,
>>>instead of when tickets are picked up.
>>>
>>i'm not sure why you sent this.   if the universities did that, a lot less
>>people would attend the concerts.
>
>no -- a lot *more* students would attend, and a lot *fewer* people who
>bought tickets scalped from students who don't give a damn about the show.
>i think it's great that ig have done a promo tour for the press and record
>folk, and a college tour for students, and then a general tour for everyone
>else.
>

that would be great if they went to all the colleges that had fans, but
thats not about to happen.  i go to swarthmore college, 30 minutes from
philly, and the only reason i am going to get to go to the lasalle concert
is because someone was nice enough to get extra tickets for me.

_______________________________________________________
:) pope dan kraut ksc ksg  insert more random stuff  genius at small :)
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subject:      remeber what we're here for!
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hey y'all-
to start off, i'd like to say i may be out of line but i'd hope that
everyone, with their own opinions, can respect what some of us are trying to
say.

we need to remeber what we're hear for, and what we're not here for.  this
list is a blessing for all of us, we get to meet others with a common great
interest: two wonderful people.  but:
when we joined this list, we all knew our regulations and the wishes of those
who have put those regulations upon us.  they are fair and should be
respected.  y'all are smart people- think about what you write before you
write it.  no one wants every intimate detail of their private lives
discussed over a system with access to millions of people.  there has been
entirely too much flamage recently and it shouldn't have to be here.

we are all individulas and very different in that individuality but that's
another thing we all love- so, with that diversity comes diverse opinions on
many issues.  we need to respect those opinions that are within the boundries
of our "list rights."  discussing certain "things" regarding a & e are not in
such "rights."

it was just a couple thoughts while i was in a mellow mood.

happy  lovin'
-emily

        "i think i've finally found that woman on the edge..."

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ig, ig
ig, n*i*s
connells, one simple word
shostakovich, 5th symphony, bernstein conducting <--don't laugh at me either :)
ani, living in clip <--and i think it's a bit of a cheat to count a double
cd as 1, so if it has to be five physical discs i'll go for #1.  but then on
the original did show on the bbc you got to pick 6, right?
anyway...i would probably regret those choices w/in a day, but too bad.
amanda c. goad
rice pride/rice college bowl/sid women's football/fondren govpubs
"you'll understand in a couple of years."  -- dr. k. comer to acg's in-class
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>>>>>if anyone is interested in starting discussion about what they would
like
to be on the list shirt, let's get it rolling.

i have always liked the phrase "closer to fine, by being online"  --
derek <<<<<


hey, this is catchy!  i like it.

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subject:      i'm signing off (billings house, fraze, blossom, pine knob)

hey y'all,

i'm signing off to finish up school.  i am the person who
first posted about the billings house idea for em's b-day,
so if anything gets posted to the list that anyone wants me
aware of, please e-mail me privately.
(i told veronica that i'd help her, in any way that i
could, get info on the billings house and
get the pr out to you all.)

also, i am going to the fraze and blossom shows for sure,
so if list meetings are being planned, i'm hoping that any
info that gets posted to the list will eventually get forwarded
to me too (by drew, alycia, don, kate, libby, or any other
kind friend).  i still want to go to the pine knob show, cathy.

lisa
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subject:      md/dc/va-- whfs just passin thru: ig this weekend!!

hey all,
i called whfs (99.1fm) today & was told that they will be airing the ig just
passin thru recorded at the epic party last month at the birchmere on sunday
@ 7:30 pm. yep finally! this coming sunday!
now, i am hoping that every one in the area has tickets to the au concert 1/2
an hour later (!! can you say "schedule conflict"??) & i am also hoping that
you all have really nice understanding friends like mine who agree without
questioning that they will have to be taping this for you even though they
quietly and privately don't really ... um... like the indigo girls very much.
i have a plan & a back-up, so unless disasters occur (knock wood) i should
have a tape.
anyway, cross your fingers-- & everyone have a great weekend!
-alexandra

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i also must wonder about the fact that the "fan survey" page sports a
picture of emily holding her hand over the camera lens while amy is
apparently laughing behind.  sigh... another function of their being
uncomfortable with the fans you think?  this makes me feel a bit sad.
someone please convince me i am misunderstanding the point, eh?  lie to me
if you must.

i think you are, but only because you haven't seen the pictures in context,
the new album liner is basicall photos from a desert like place, it is
really cool and i think it was a joke left in intentionally


mike r.
*who really wants a calendar and the cd single thing...*


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subject:      re: nigc which companies support operation rescue? (was re: the

on the subject of the murder of dr. david gunn in my own hometown, let me say
this:

on my last post about this topic i wasnt exactly clear.  i am a victim of an
attempted abortion, but i *fully* support the womans right to choose.  i
volunteered at the womens center after the murders as an escort for a good 2
week.  (dont tell my folks i was supposed to be in school)  and i keep
thinking if there had been a place like the womens center when i was still a
fetus, i might have been able to be reborn to a mother who wanted me and
spared alot of the hassle i've gone through in this life.  my mother couldn't
handle the raising of me, especially when i turned out messed up in my head.
therefore i turned into one of those uncontrollable special-ed children
everyone hates.

so.  can we please stop posting on this topic now?

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)
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'cause i'm gay..." - e. saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think we were on the same boat back in 1694" -
a. ray
"mothers tell your children/be quick you must be strong/life is full of
wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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no one posted this but they did some sort of interview @ colby (i dunno if
they sang or not) before the show -- someone compiling a list of all these
appearences. i have never seen them so media happy


i'm looking for a copy if anyone was fortunate to be taping (basically any
colby students???)

mike r.

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subject:      re: cd's for a desert island (marginal igc)

my top five right now:
indigo girls: rites of passage
ani difranco: imperfectly
dar williams: mortal city
bill morrissey: night train
lisa loeb and nine stories: tails

top five books:
_blue_highways_, william least heat-moon
_the_more_than_complete_hitchhiker's_guide_, douglas adams
_bloom_county_babylon_, berke breathed (preferably my autographed copy)
_hackers_, steven levy
_godel,_escher,_bach_, douglas hofstadter

kirsten

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hey kind friends,
brief history question for you. . . what's the significance of the boat of
1694?
thank you :)

em


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<|       sing somebody do something anything soon i know i can't be the
  >\      whatever i am in the room.."
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              apr 18, 97 11:32 pm

> now dianne and i talked this am
> her and i disagreeon the first bit of trivia
> so what do ya'll think?? haven amy and em written
> songs together before??
yes. blood quantum and if you live like that were both written jointly by
amy and emily. however, since neither of those songs has ever been released on
any recording by epic, they don't exist. ;-)
kirsten


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subject:      of t-shirts and tatoos...

o, listees,
     o, man, i'm trying to keep myself from posting this but
     it's tickling my soul.
     i have an idea for the next batch of t-shirts.
     can you guess what it is?
     ok, see, someone gets a photo of the new tatoo,
     then we reproduce it on our shirts - complete with navel.

*disclaimer*
this is a joke.  this is only a joke.  in the event of a
constructive comment to the list, you will be notified
of where to surf on the web.  this is only a joke.

remember              peace                maureen

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only 5?  (c;  i hate decisions but i *think* it would be the following..

1. indigo girls-rites of passage
2. indigo girls-1200 curfews
3. tori amos-under the pink
4. better than ezra-deluxe
5. pink floyd-pulse

**tricia**

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here's my five picks:

1) indigo girls: self-titled major record label debut
2) indigo girls: strange fire
3) indigo girls: rites of passage
4) indigo girls: swamp ophelia
5) indigo girls: shaming the sun

and i would send up smoke signals asking for nomads*indians*saints, back on
th bus y'all, 1200 curfews and every boot in existence to be airlifted in
after i get my palm frond shelter built in the lee of a small cave within
which resides the small rabbit family which i will tame and keep as pets,
naming them chickenman, galileo, amy, emily, emory, caramia, shame (as in _
on you), saliers, ray and indigo.

as for the 5 books, they'll all be selections from my extensive mercedes
lackey collection  :)  anyone out there a lackey fan??  i'd like to know
anyone else's opinion as to whether or nnot amy & emily possess the bardic
gift  :)  i certainly think they do  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)
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remember what we're here for....hmmm lesseee.....
well first! you misspelt "remember"...oops, i misspelt "misspelled"...

now where was i??  oh yeah, i was trying to get a pic of amy's new tattoo
so i could get one just like it...hey and that would satisfy a previous
list concern, does she have an innie or an outie? [yay! we're not going
there today!]

no, wait...it was...ummmmm...well, basically i guess i just wanted to tell
you all that i'm going to post a list of my demands and if you don't all
adhere to them then i'm gonna sign off...now take that!!

no, seriously.  really.  i agree with emily totally (and who wouldn't,
with a name like that?).  trouble is, with all these flames i forget
*where* i am, much less why i'm here.  it was starting to sound like maybe
the ani list, or (eeks!) the dar list...and not to mention, we're getting
way too personal about them....anyone who remembers the great navel debate
of 1996, or the hair length thing, or any of the other debacles of our
collective integrity, knows this to be true!!

this is all tongue in cheek, y'all...at least, i think it is....i will
just have to laugh if i get flamed for this.  oh well, nothing new.
remember: it's only email!!  i don't know about anyone else, but i have
more important things to worry about.

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that love is like falling and falling is like this.--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
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has anyone in the pnw found these items yet?  at almost every cd store i've
been to, the clerks look at me like i am crazy for asking about these things.

jeni

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i haven't listened to rop for a long, long time.  i'd forgotten what a
well-composed album this is; not just each song (boo!) but the whole feel
of the album.  one thing struck me in virginia woolf, particularly in
light of "fugitive" and of my experience with this list:  does this strike
a chord with anyone else?
"they published your diary, and that's how i got to know you..."
hmmm, a little commiseration maybe?  that em was perhaps becoming aware of
how fame taxes your personal freedom, and yet without it she never would
have learned so much from vw (what was it she said at eugene about ginny
anyway...can't remember, guess i have crs too...) anyway, i hadn't heard
that particular line with that perspective before.
i tend to be someone who fills up the cd player and hits "shuffle" a lot.
if you do too, and you havn't given rop a listen in a while, try it,
straight through, and remember. my first 20 listens to this album were on
an ill-fated road trip to the grand canyon when this came out in 92; i
bought a cassette of this somewhere in death valley, sometime after
getting towed to a gas station (long boring story).  i still take a mental
pause between romeo and juliet and virginia woolf to flip the cassette
over, even though that tape wore out years ago and i now have it on cd.

one more curious thought i have: anyone know the deal with ani and the
girls?  are they pals or something?  i found it a little strange that (a)
ani toured with sara lee "on loan" while ig were on vacation, (b) that
danielle howle is touring with ani now (you lucky east cost dogs! you
better go to every show for me!!) and(c) that ani sounds an awful damn lot
like danielle in the cute little giggling intro to my iq on puddle
dive...there was a (d) and an (e) that makes my argument more convincing,
but i plead benedryl to any accusations.  (wicked head cold, i have
removed my head and placed it in the corner to drain while i write
this...)  is this like 6 degrees to danielle howle or something?

that's all for tonight, i think.  off to my corner to ponder whether my
last post was completely out of line or just wryly humorous...

joni mitchell rules!!
bye!-g

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that love is like falling and falling is like this.--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
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some people were asking why exactly la salle was cancelled.  if you call
215-951-1910, it says, "we are sorry to announce that due to health and
safety risks created by surface water and high winds, the ig concert has
been cancelled.  more information will be available next week.  contact
student life at 951-1371 starting tuesday april 22.  thank you."  i'll try
calling, & i'll post if i get any more info.

jen posted some more stuff about the sonic session.  it should be broadcast
on y100 sometime soon...they told audrey that they broadcast them on
sundays at 9 am, but that doesn't necessarily mean this sunday.  when i
find out when it will be on, i'll post about that.

i almost thought we weren't going to make it there, b/c we got extremely
lost in philly, but everything worked out okay in the end.  we got free
nantucket nectar & pop rocks while we waited in line too!

i have a lot of random comments about it, so i'll try to remember them all,
but that probably won't happen in any particlur order.  a&e said a lot of
funny things.  e talked a lot.  a talked less, but smiled a lot.  i don't
remember what they said exactly, but i'll try to explain them.  when i tape
it off the radio, i'll be able to get the quotes better.  if anyone who was
there wants to correct me, feel free.

they didn't come right out when the dj announced them, & when they did, a
said something about how she was sorry they were late, but they were just
hanging out in the back room & didn't realize it was time to come out.
during the q&a's, someone in the audience asked when they started playing
together.  (i think it was the first question too.)  e said it was in 1981,
in high school, which was "a really long time ago" & laughed.  (i think
everyone should be required to read the faq before asking questions like
that. ;)  someone wished a a happy belated birthday, & a thanked her.  at
one point, e asked, "so, are y'all contest winners?"  and no one said
anything.  so she asked why we were there...some answers were, "a friend of
a friend," "my hairdresser," & audrey's was, "we asked nicely."  someone
said, "the will of god," so e asked, "how many are here due to the will of
god?" and lots of people raised their hands...she said it was a pretty good
percentage.  someone in the audience commented on the whole psu basketball
thing, & they explained it saying something about how they wouldn't let
some of the women play basketball b/c they were gay.  e said something
like, "imagine that...some of the basketball players are gay!"  and they
made some joke about wanting to go see the coach, & e said something
like,"yeah, we bet that she's a a huge fan."  it was cute.  and e's best
comment about the whole basketball thing was, "discrimination is a bad bad
bad thing."  (my new sig! :)  a said that she was still in that "closing my
eyes phase" b/c these were new songs, & she didn't know them all yet.  and
she really did keep her eyes closed for most of the songs.

jen was right...the audience was so quiet & respectful of all the new
songs.  they all sounded so clear. jen noticed that e changed the lyrics to
gotm on the "big ball of orange sinking slyly down the trees" line, but now
i forget what she changed them too.  on the "my wannabe harriet the spy"
line in cara mia, some man laughed pretty loudly, & e smiled.  i noticed
that a lot of people were mouthing the words to shame on you...y100 plays
it a lot, so i guess that's how people knew it.  a&e let us sing a lot on
galileo, & everyone knew all the words, of course...a smiled a lot during
that.

they tuned their guitars a lot in between songs, which took some time, but
they tried to talk while they did it.  a was having problems keeping her
guitar in one place (in the mic), & i think the recording people in the
back were motioning for her to stay still.  she doesn't like to stay still
though!

sulli was so nice to us today.  she talked to us at la salle, & then
recognized us at the sonic session, & was just the coolest.  she threw out
picks at the end b/c she said she couldn't choose who to give them too, so
we'd have to fight for them...i didn't get one.

overall, it was a crazy day, full of high points & low points, but seeing
a&e from that close up in such a cozy setting was just so amazing for me.
i just love watching them!  they mesmerize me, & being so close to them is
just so surreal.  thanks to audrey for getting the passes, & thanks to jen
for driving us there...

andi


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                                andrea lipman
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the boat in 1964 to me is immigration, the conquering europeans in their many
nationalities coming over from everywhere to take this land away from its
inhabitants.  but also it is a message showing intolerance.  amy says we were
on the same boat back in 1694, but now in 1997 you are acting like you are
better than me, whatever, and you need to remember that you and me came from
the same place.

just my $0.02.  :)

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)
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what's ironic about what she said?  did i miss something?
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

kfairbairn@pyrite.stonehill.edu wrote:
>
> hey all.
>
> i just finished listening (and taping) the girls on 98.5.
>
> did anyone else think it was ironic how emily said that they don't buy into the
> commercial trappings of success?  that is one reason why i respect them so
> much, because if they do get popular, then they won't sell out like other
> bands.
>
> <sigh>
>
> anyway...off to choir....
>
> kelly
> kfairbairn@stonehill.edu

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subject:      my top 5 cds and other stuff.....

ok, i think my top 5 cds would be :

1. indigo girls : 1200 curfews.

2. des'ree : i ain't moving.

3. bruce springsteen : greatest hits.

4. tori amos : little earthquakes.

5. garbage : garbage.

that wasn't in any particular order of preference, apart from number
one......

if the people who wrote to me about the michigan concert could get
back to me soon, i'd be really grateful....... i didn't manage to
read all my e-mail for last week until yesterday (that show's you how
busy i've been....), but i'm seriously interested in the concert.

thanks,

john.


"when god and bill gates invented the word processor...."

one of my geography lecturers....

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so is for real?  does anyone know about "karen's" and others website?
it seems that they are selling many bootlegs, audio and video.  anyone
have any insights?
just curious,
seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

also, i didn't see the calendar or the single on their web site.

> on thu, 17 apr 1997 igboo8@aol.com wrote:
>
>we have these new indigo girls items for sale:
shaming of the sun calender & shame on you cd single..
if interested, email us at igboo8@aol.com or check out our webpage at
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ok, here's my 5:

indigo girls - 1200 curfews
ani difranco - dilate
tori amos - boys for pele
paula cole - harbinger
billy joel - greatest hits (i & ii)

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(i did say i wasn't gonna be reading the list for a while, but i of
course had to read what andi and jen wrote about yesterday, and after
seeing a couple of other posts i felt the need to comment and give a few
of my impressions)


yes, lasalle was cancelled.  as i understand it (i could be wrong, i
wasn't there for the discussion <*grin*>) they tried first to find an
alternate venue, but there really wasn't anything both large enough and
safe.  jen and andi and i were outside at lasalle for most of the time
this decision was being made.  it was cold, windy, and alternating
between snow, rain, and some sleety-hail thing.  there had been
lightening that morning and while that wasn't going to stop me from going
to the show if amy and emily were willing to play, i did make sure to
take the precaution of unplugging my computer before i left my
apartment.  (even with a surge protector, lightening can sometimes do
damage...)  the show was planned for outside, "raine or shine."  i'm
quoting the tickets here.  it's april...you don't really think about
planning for snow in april--though maybe we should here in the
northeast!  i don't know what was said about the possibility of
lightening before yesterday.  what i do know is that the stage had four
tall steel posts attached to help hold it up.  jen could probably tell you
the official name, but to me they just looked like they were calling for
lightening to strike them.  there certainly wasn't a better path for any
lightening in the near vicinity to reach the ground.  and if it hit one
of those posts it would have travelled through to strike amy and emily
and their instruments.  we know they've had interaction with lightening
before, and weather conditions were making it pretty bad concert
conditions for everyone involved, particularly the audience.

yes, i'm disappointed that the show didn't happen.  a lot of us are, and
that's how it should be.  we were looking forward to a great experience,
and it just didn't get to happen.  i urge you though not to be angry.
dissapointed and frustrated, yes, but not angry.  i'm pretty sure if i
was in amy and emily's position i would have made the same decision.
conditions were really bad and as much as we all wanted to hear the
concert and amy and emily wanted to play, it would have been risky to go
through with it.  i'm a devoted enough fan that i would--and have--risked
my health to hear them play.  frostbite and electrocution sometimes seem
worth it for good music.  i'm glad that amy and emily care enough to put
everyone's safety first and make that decision to cancel a show.  i don't
think it was an easy decision to make.  they both sounded pretty
disappointed about it themselves at the sonic session.  emily told us it
was the first show they'd ever had to cancel and she sounded genuinely
sad about it.  and really concerned about how many people they'd let
down, she said they'd make it up to us.  in a kind of "please don't be
mad, we tried our best, and we'll do everything we can, we promise"
voice.  i believe her.  i feel bad for all of us, but chances are the
show *will* be rescheduled, and it'll be during much nicer weather and
will be a much better show that what would have been if amy and emily
decided to persevere last night.

i did go to the sonic session.  i feel fortunate that i was able to be
there...i know i'd be a lot more bummed otherwise.  i don't know exactly
when it will be on y100, but i plan to tape it, and if all goes well i'll
try to help andi out and offer it to the list.  i'm hoping to be able to
do that by mid-june (yeah, i know it's a while, but i don't want to lose
anyone's tapes in the mail and i don't think i'll have finished moving
before then).  preference will go to those people who had tickets for the
lasalle show.  andi and jen gave some good reviews of the sonic session so
you've gotten to experience the highlights...i'm not gonna add to that
until we get some boots in circulation because i don't want it to seem
like i'm rubbing it in that i got to see amy and emily yesterday and a lot
of other people who planned to didn't.  i feel bad that not everyone could
be there.

thanks for reading,
audrey

p.s. those of you who still owe andi money for tickets -- *please* make
an effort to pay her back as soon as you can.  she went through *a lot*
to get them for you and she laid out a lot of money.  it's not her fault
that the show got cancelled so please don't try to take out your
frustration by leaving her broke.  amy and emily and lots of listees
would be disappointed in you, and i will hunt you down and shoot you and
post incriminating unflattering photographs of you on the listee web
page.  thank you andi for all your efforts to get us all tickets.  you
rock!

p.p.s.  thanks jen for the ride, and both andi and jen for the company.
it's always better to share both the good stuff and the disappointments
with friends.  :)


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subject:      nigc: ani rules !!!!!!!!!!!!

fortunate ones:

after seeing ani live last night in new haven, ct - i can really truly say
ani rules !!!!!

i've seen her twice before at newport '95 and '96 ... but never caught her
just by herself !!!!

does anyone have the e-mail address to subscribe to her list ???

unfortunately i didn't boot it .... i remembered the palace as always
searching at shows, so i left the booting equipment in the car at the last
moment ...i should have at least tried - the guards didn't even give me a
second glance as i walked thru !!!!

if anyone out there went and taped it - or knows anyone who did, please let
me know !!!!!!!!

back to indigo land !!!!!!!!!!!!

chris

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at 02:08 pm 4/18/97 -0400, gretchen hoff wrote:
>top five cds for gretchen's desert island:

let's see here .... only *five*?? (in no particular order)

1. 1200 curfews
2. not a pretty girl (ani d.)
3. little earthquakes (tori amos)
4. wynton maralis - baroque music for trumpets (classical)
5. melissa ferrick+1
- jan
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if you haven't seen this already, there is a great search engine which
has the lyrics to tons of songs  - including lots of ig non-album tracks,
which i thought was pretty cool.

check it out at:  http://www.lyrics.ch

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subject:      music, a good book, and a piece of...(igc!)

my top five cd's for the desert island:
1) indigo girls- nomads, indians, saints
2) kiss unplugged/kiss alive
3) team dresch- personal best
4) melissa ferrick- mf + 1
5) the gap band- greatest hits

okay, you *have* to be able to get funkee on said desert isalnd right?

as for choice #3, if you've never heard team dresch, run dont walk to your
nearest record joint and buy this cd! team dresch are a totally asskickin dyke
band with a great sense of humor (okay, it's crass like mine, but they can pull
it off) and amazing guitar work....

on to the igc:
last night i was finishing up a new book, "surface tension: love, sex, and
politics between lesbians and straight women" which is edited by meg daly
(1996). towards the end, there's an essay entitled "the (fe)male gaze" by eliz.
wurtzler, author of prozac nation (a great read if you have ever struggled with
depression or love soemone who has). the essay is  all about how openly lesbian
musicians like the ig (who elizabeth talks about at length in her essay) are
especially amazing because their performances are so charged with raw emotion
and connection to women that they appear to be free of the confines of "the
male gaze".

i'm sure there are litcrit types on this list who can explain the male gaze
much more fully than i, but essentially, the male gaze is the "force" in
western society that keeps women in check artistically and otherwise, that
keeps a certain standard of male-oriented expression as the norm, and anything
deviant from that (and a lot of times women's art is viewed as deviant) is
basically squelched. if you don't like this particular idea, please don't flame
me...i didn't invent it but i do believe it exists, and there have been a
gazillion volumes written on it.

anyhoo, eliz  talks about amy and emily and how she envies them so for their
ability to shake off the male gaze, to be women musicians, to be genuine. (she
also talks about mle, but mostly about the girls). she talks specifically about
the beauty and poignancy of "blood and fire". she talks about how in her
straightness, she can  connect and find meaning in what the ig do and how they
create. she describes emily as a "down home georgia girl" and amy as "raw".
clearly, from the article, she's an amyite :) anyway, the article is really
good, i urge y'all to go out and find this book too to listen to with your team
dresch cd and a big piece of roquefort on melba toast..and make it a gay day!
:)

xoxo, sus

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subject:      re: top five

hmmm . . . 5 albums . . .

alright, if i were stranded on a desert island i would bring

indigo girls (self titled)
nirvana (nevermind)
beatles (sargent pepper)
greatful dead (skeletons in the closet)
hole (live through this)

sorry nothing obscure or interesting, but those are just my favorites.

-elizabeth

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double set. self made ig tunes ( couldn't decide on just one)
got dem old kosmic blues  again..janis joplin
blue joni mitchell
teddy live .teddy pendergrass ( man..turn down the lights, lite up the
candles, pour the wine and listen to this one)
suite for flute and jazz piano..jean-pierre rampal, flutist claude
bolling, pianist, composer

something for everyday (and night) of the week

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howdy folks!

i guess we're amusing ourselves this week by trying to think of other cds, in
order to get our minds off the one that i, nor anyone else, can't stop
fantasizing about.  ok, i'll bite...

my did's are as follows:  (in no particular order)
1.  indigo girls: nomads indians saints
2.  phish: lawn boy
3.  ani difranco: not a pretty girl
4.  sting:  the soul cages
5.  grateful dead: american beauty

keep in mind, though, that i would never be caught dead with only 5 cds, now
that i'm sportin my cool (and free) cd carrying cases which i got from
maxell.  so i'm listing some more cds.  pulse magazine lets you have 10 discs
on a desert island!

6.  sugar: copper blue
7.  maceo parker: mo' roots
8.  the beatles: the white album, disc 1
9.  elton john: live in austrailia with the melbourne symphony orchestra
10. supertramp: breakfast in america

awrighty then, i guess i'll go back to whatever the hell it was that i was
doing...

sheri :)

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kirsten chevalier wrote:
>
> > now dianne and i talked this am
> > her and i disagreeon the first bit of trivia
> > so what do ya'll think?? haven amy and em written
> > songs together before??
> yes. blood quantum and if you live like that were both written jointly by amy and emily. however, since neither of those songs has ever been released on any recording by epic, they don't exist. ;-)


well kirsten,

while i'm not sure how "if you live like that" was written, i think i've
read where they said that "blood quantum" was a joint effort, but
written separately.  amy started it and then turned it over to emily,
who finished it.

melissa
yes, who's probably feeling nitpicky right now

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re: amy & emily co-writing any songs, i believe they co-wrote (with michael
stipe of rem) the song "i'll give you my skin", which appears on peta's
benefit cd, tame yourself.

maureen

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subject:      ig on whfs 99.1

hey, just thought that i would let all you ig fans in the
dc-baltimore-annapolis area know that ig will be on whfs "just passing
through" sunday night april 20th at 7:30 pm!!  it's the show from their
appearance last month at the birchmere in dc!!
for those of us who don't have tickets to au, this can hold us over until
wolftrap on may 28th and 29th!!

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reprinted without permission so don't tell anyone
"the folk-rock icons continue to battle lifes' harsh terrain-a land of
burning black churches, bias against immigrants,and antigay hatred..but
instead of fighting words, they offer grace,strenght, and boundless joy.
sun kicks off with a pair of banjo-plucking, soaring sing-alongs: "come
down to chicano city park and wash your sins away.beautiful ladies walk
right by, you know, i never know what to say." sings amy ray gleefully
in "shame on you". as for homophobia: "its allright if you hate that
way, hate me if i'm different, hate me if i'm gay.truth of the matter
will come around one day." in the meantime, the indigo girls will
continue to sing their hearts out."
then it has that  picture of them standing together..it was described as
"the femme"" shot.( i don't rememberwho called it that, i mean no
offenese, i just figure we'll all remember which one i was talking about
so don't yell at me..i'm delicate)

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there's also "i wanna be your lover" off of blue food.  emily says
that she wrote the words and amy wrote the music.  that's also how it
is noted on the lifeblood site (just checked).

incidentally, it's my favorite song off of that tape 'cause there's
so much humor in it.

anna


"i like to write really quiet songs on the electric guitar."  -amy ray


http://narnia.emu.edu/pub/students/creechal/creechal.htm

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1) strange fire
2) tori amos's "little earthquakes"
3) abba "gold" (hehe...)
4)  luscious jackson "fever in fever out" (dyke drummer!! go buy
them..they rawk) 5)  ani difranco "not a pretty girl"

...a bottle of sunscreen, a baseball hat (for those windy island days), a
towel, and  my fantasy woman.....=  )

hmmmmm.....and to think there might have been more to this post. nope. =
)

-liz- (who woke up a half hour ago ...*yawn*......)

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top five - desert island !!! love it !

1 season of lights - laura nyro (live)
("i've tasted heaven and hell, heaven, stay awhile...")

2) shaming of the sun - indigo girls - (haven't heard it but just know i'd
need it;)

3) i'm yours, you're mine - betty carter (yummy)

4) bille's best - billie holiday
("i wished on the moon...for something i never knew..."

5) new york tendaberry - laura nyro
    (sidewalk and pigeon, you look like a city, but you feel like ....
     religion ... to me.... ")

of course i'd be on susita's island so i could hear n*i*s,
team dresch and melissa ferrick also ...and we'd have to have the
person who has all the classical music join us oh ! and the one who
has aja too !:)
and bring chips  !
lurv,
binkles
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so i wuz walkin' on the beach of the desert island ...the one that susita,
pooh,
and the others are on, and what do i find washed up on the beach ??????

marvin gaye - what's goin' on ?

what a great island !! and there's a latte' stand to boot !

c u there !
lurv,
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hey guys

please forgive the nigc but i'll keep it brief (honest!)
just got the shawn colvin cd single - "get out of this house", and
wondered whether any shawn fans out there (as i know you're out there)
have the whole columbia records radio hour show, from which the live
tracks on the single were taken??

many thanks


andrew stokell

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hey ! whomever is coming next to the desert island,
could you remember to bring the cd player ?
and a generator.

thanx !
bonky

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hey there chiquiata bananas!

got some new info for ya'll....so listen up!

the calendar promo thing will be available where the cd is sold.  its a
limited thing -- kinda like a collector's item...(ask the clerk for it when
you buy the cd, if they dont know what the hell you're talking about, tell
them to get their ass into the stock room and look for it)

the "shame on you" single has not been "officially" released as a single
yet, so thats why you cant find the single cd in your store...(it will be
released soon, but i cant remember when)   the fact that you guys are
hearing the new stuff on your local radio station is cool, because that
means the station is playing it on its own accord.

the girls will be on the cover of the may edition of tower records pulse
magazine.  they just shot the pictures for the magazine this past monday in
new york.

after lilith faire and the few high school dates, they will go back to the
studio to finish recording the folk album. (hope to be done by the end of
the year).  there will be no club dates in the fall.

besides letterman and rosie, the indigos will be featured on leno and hard copy

hmmm...what else....i cant remember, but when i remember more i will post it...
ahhhhhhh, its great to get the inside scoop....

later all!
--sue

p.s. all those i owe boots to, they're in the mail.  :)

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....is fnarking amazing -- i know i may offend 98% of people here, but it
makes 1200 pale in comparision. i usually always think "i could have made a
bettier bootleg comp tape". not this time...this is seriously going to be a
wonderful release and if you have not bought any ani cd yet because you did
not know which one to buy -- get this!

*listening to amazing grace right now -- too bad i have to give this cd
back soon..*

mike r.
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hey kids

remember that san diego tickets went on sale at 10am.  also, anyone get
any further info on when the portland shows are going to go on sale?
someone said it would be in about a week and it's been longer than that.
thanks   mel and julie

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hey y'all!
         i have to agree that this is the best live cd that i have ever
heard.  up until now, 1200 curfews was, without a doubt, the best.  1200
curfews is still my favorite, but the double ani cd is a deffinite must to
get when it comes out (tues i think).  my friend works at a music store and
got the promo edition early.  it really rocks.  it has tons of ani's little
nervous laughs and funny little anecdotes.  and the instrumental on some of
the songs is amazing.  i think she used an orchestral accompaniment on "both
hands" that was incredible (it's my favorite song).  she really deviates
from the stock stuff on the regular albums and it's just like your own live
ani show in your back yard.  i loooove it!!!

only 24 hrs until i leave for teh american show!!!!

peace out!
mere

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subject:      top five and a special hello

okay here's my $.05
1. rites of passage
2. indigo girls
3. boys for pele (tori)
4. oyster (heather nova)
5. hello (poe)

heather nova is absolutely amazing--her album is really neat, a little
different...books?  hmmm...i would bring
1.  art and lies (jeannette winterson)
2.  good omens (nail gaiman--funniest book ever written--a parody on the
apocalypse!)
3.  the celestine prophecy (for spiritual guidance!)
4.  hmmm...either a dictionary (so when i was finally rescued i'd have at
least increased my vocabulary a thousand fold) or einstein's theory of
relativity--that is so neat...
5. a blank book (for all the stories in my head)

and a special hello goes out to kristen chevalier--yeah, it's me,
celeste...been quite some time now, hasn't it..did you used to play el
piano?<---vivid memory of a picture i have of you hidden amongst thousands of
others!!

love and other psychedelic things, celeste

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can't resist this thread...

1. u2: the unforgettable fire
2. indigo girls: swamp ophelia
3. the waterboys: fisherman's blues
4. everything but the girl: amplified heart
5. jackson browne: i'm alive

runner's up: kd lang: ingenue; husker du: warehouse: songs and stories; and
all the rest of the albums by the above five!

ps i noticed 1200 curfews seems to be a big favorite on the list--i've
never heard it! don't hate me because i'm poor...

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sorry to bother you all, but i was wondering if there was definate info.
about when the 5/31 meadows tix are going on sale?  i heard it might be
this
saturday, but i haven't seen any posting about it...

thanks(:
jennie

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subject:      philly mann tix

ok - whew - what a relief ....

i got orch a right - row d seats 18 & 20 ...

any clues to how close this is ??????????????

chris

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subject:      desert island cds

wow it's hard to limit this list to just 5...but here goes:

1.  melissa etheridge - yes i am
2.  indigo girls - 1200 curfews (even though it leaves out a few essentials,
it
     covers the most ground)
3.  phantom of the opera - original cast recording
4.  kristen hall - be careful what you wish for
5.  bette midler - live at last

this list subject to change on an hourly basis...

maureen

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not every store is getting these, trust me. many chain stores in big cities
will get some, but most independent stores  receive their cd's thru a
distributor, not direct from the record company so it is difficult to
impossible for them to get this type of promotional material, so those
calendars *will* be around, if you live near a store that gets a bunch of
extras, offer them to those less fortunate, as for the cd single- i would
imgine this may be as difficult to find as a normal promo single.

mike r.

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subject:      was paroooozing the web!

hey guys,
i was wasting lots of time surfing the web yesterday and came accross
the well known fact that ig has only won one lousy ass grammy in '89
for contemporary folk.  it just occurred to me all the awful alternative
and thrash crap that's been winning these past few years.  all these
one hit wonders seem to crop up and do you ever hear from them again?
i don't think so!  all the grammys seem to me is a popularity contest
and basically the record companies "awarding" these never heard from
again groups for selling a million albums and earning them tons of
money.  it has nothing to do with music  or talent god forbid b/c if it
did ig would've won a thousand grammy's by now.  i know that there
are as many types of music as there are people but come on, some of
what's out there seems to cater to the officially brain dead.  just
my random thoughts on the very absurd grammy's.  anybody else think
likewise? jen kim :)

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subject:      k's choice on mtv (nigc)

here's something i found off a mailing list i'm on (i remembered a lot
of you like k's choice:

ps: here's a rockontv update for sunday, april 20th:
mtv's "120 minutes" will have morphine as the special
guest - videos featured include foo fighters, meredith
brooks,k's choice, pavement, matchbox 20, the london
suede, folk implosion, and los straightjackets ....

leah

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hey.  my five discs would be something like:

      1. indigo girls _1200 curfews_
      2. u2 _the joshua tree_
      3. tori amos _little earthquakes_
      4. jeff buckley _grace_
      5. ben folds five _ben folds five_

wow.  that's easy until you get number five, and you think of all the discs
  you _can't_ take with you.  oh well, when recordable dvds come out, i can
  put my whole collection on five discs. :)

                       l-8-r, chris

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hey folks,
a couple of soapboxish sorta thangs...
first, it's taken me a while cuz i wanted to phrase it just so, and check
and recheck the grammar and the spelling, but i _just_ sent a rather long
rather heartfelt rather chastising letter to jerry falwell and pat
robertson. wow, i gotta tell you it felt _really_ good to write. once
again i urge you to speak up if you have something to say. along those
same lines, a while back i posted a list of addresses for pro- and anti-
gay companies involved in the ellen thing. the following is another list
of companies in _support_ of advertising for ellen (forwarded to by a
great friend...thanx cylinda). also a couple of additional comments: this
is a different address for walt disney, and this one might be a better
one to write to because he's directly involved with tv programming. jc
penny is on this list, but they are apparently wavering, and undecided
about advertising. and i made some negative comments about american
airlines previously, and it appears i may have been in error. they are
apparently involved in offering a prize for a glaad "come out with ellen"
contest. so sounds like they deserve a "yay."

and more preaching on a completely unrelated topic: i'm sure y'all are
_way_ tired of hearing about this spelling thing, but it _pains_ me to
see so many people pan education in this way. i can't tell you how many
times i've read posts saying essentially, "who cares if it's misspelled,
that's not important." in other words: correct use of our own language
_isn't_ important, discussions of amy and emily's wardrobes _are_
important. i see. look folks. i firmly believe that education (and the
proper application of one's education) is the single greatest cure for
almost _all_ of society's ills. does it really hurt so much to make a
half hearted attempt to show competence in your native language?
that was nasty, i know, so if anyone finds any misspellings or
grammatical errors in this post feel free to throw them in my face. :)

anyway, here's the list:

mr. david neuman, president, walt disney television
     touchstone television
     500 south buena vista
     burbank, california 91521
     phone: 818.560.1000
     e-mail through feedback form on www: http://www.tvplex.com/note

william gates
     ceo
     microsoft corporation
     one microsoft way
     redmond, wa 98052
     phone: 206.882.8080
     fax: 206.936.7329
     e-mail: askbill@microsoft.com

     gordon moore
     chair
     intel corporation
     p.o. box 58119
     santa clara, ca 95052
     phone: 408.765.8080
     web: http://www.intel.com

     shinji sakai
     president
     toyota motor sales
     19001 s. western avenue
     torrance, ca 90509
     phone: 800.331.4331
     fax: 310.618.7800
     web: http://www.toyota.com/whatsat/feedback/

     d. wayne calloway
     chair
     pepsi-cola
     700 anderson hill road
     purchase, ny 10577
     phone: 914.253.2000
     fax: 914.253.2070
     e-mail: info@www.pepsimax.com

     kevin johnson
     director of communications
     home access health corporation
     2401 west hassell road, suite 1510
     hoffman estates, il 60195-5200
     phone: 847.781.2500
     fax: 847.781.2560
     e-mail: kj@homeaccess.com

william howell
     chair
     j.c. penney company, inc.
     p.o. box 10001
     dallas, tx 75301
     phone: 214.431.1000
     fax: 214.431.1977
     e-mail: webmaster@jcpenney.com


folkisgruven,
lorindigo

*who accidentally deleted her sig. so:

washington university
wright@biodec.wustl.edu

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hey, y'all.  i was thinking today...1200 curfews is awesome, incredible,
grand...but what would i have put on it if i were king?

watershed.

hammer and nail.

fugitive.

reunion.

wonder why they're not there?  i know there's limited space and all, but it
woulda made me so happy!

so there ya are.

justin

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being the lurker that i am, i am not sure if someone has moaned about this
before.  how come there are no upper midwest (wisconsin in particular, okay
how 'bout madison) dates on the tour so far.  it is likely that lilith will
skip us to. so what gives?  i know that they will be in ohio, but come on.
. .  anyone heard anything?
lisa

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subject:      ig mtv unplugged picture

hey y'all. after recieving the mtv unplugged book (thanks lori!), i
scanned the ig pic and put it on the web. sorry it's in b&w. it's at:

http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/igmtv.jpg

if you can't view it, let me know....(and while you're there, check out my
page...http://members.tripod.com/~dyke/index.html)

thanks!
-liz-

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i'm not sure if it's been posted, but the epic site lists april 24 as the
release for the shame on youy single.  doesn't say what else is on it,
however...
stephen

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subject:      5 cd's

hmm......the five cd's i would take....

indigo girls--rites of passage
melissa--your little secret
simon & garfunkel--greatest hits
alanis--jagged little pill
jars of clay--flood

tough choice...i would probably die....=)

hope ya'll have an awesome weekend!

love, katie =)

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hi there.

just having a crummy day and needed to share that fact with several
hundred people.  i loaded up my cd player with the first 5 ig albums
(note to self: buy multi-disc changer  big enough to hold *all*  ig
cd's), and the very first song it played for me was crazy game.  ahhh!  i
needed that!  i already feel better.

thanks for listening.

tuesday's child

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kathy and i are goin to this desert island together, so we get 10
together!  neener neener.  here they are

sue
        ig, 1200 curfews
        joan armitrading, greatest hits
        ferron, testimony
        bonnie raitt, road tested
        kd lang, absolute torch and twang

kathy
        ig, shaming of the sun
        grateful dead, europe '72
        kd lang, shadowland
        lucinda williams, sweet old world
        asleep at the wheel, tribute to bob wills and the texas playboys

there be it, such as it be

books, so far we thunk of
        the fifth sacred thing, starhawk
        fluvial process in geomorphology, ? (yes, sue likes this one)
        winnie the pooh, milne
        the practice of chinese medicine, maciocia
        complete tales of the city, maupin
        seafood: a collection of heart healthy recipes, harsila & hansen

guess thats all we can think of for now.  know there are more books.
just can't figure out which of our appx 2,000 we would want to bring.

sue (and kathy)

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i didn't know that a&e wrote if you live like that (one of my favorite
songs, btw) and blood quantum together, but on blue food emily says that for
i wanna be your lover, she wrote the words and amy wrote the music.

5 cds for a desert island (in no particular order):

indigo girls: 1200 curfews
patty griffin: living with ghosts
dar williams: mortal city
susan werner: last of the good straight girls
nanci griffith: flyer
(runner up tori amos: little earthquakes)

also, i think i'm going to get to go to the wolftrap show in virginia on the
28th of may.  anyone else going?

finally, to jump on the bandwagon -- how would one go about getting one of
these nifty calendar things everyone keeps talking about?  i'm guessing it's
some exclusive promo thing, but hoping i'm wrong. ;)

                                                        laura

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subject:      peace!!!

lately everyone seems mad at everyone else on this list!  must be
pre-release anxiety over sots.  i think we are all guilty of typing how
we would speak, but words without voice lose their expression.  thus we
misinterpret each other's tones and start spazzing over silly little
things.  have we learned nothing from e and a?  so peace to all, blah
blah blah.

[end preaching mode]

jeremy

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand;
  we are fortunate ones fortunate ones i swear"
        --amy ray

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subject:      re: what's missing from 1200 curfews?

on sat, 19 apr 1997 15:51:37 -0500 justin shumaker <shuey@tcac.com>
writes:
>hey, y'all.  i was thinking today...1200 curfews is awesome,
>incredible,
>grand...but what would i have put on it if i were king?
>
>watershed.
>
>hammer and nail.
>
>fugitive.
>
>reunion.

yeah, but you forgot these...

southland in the springtime

touch me fall (can you just hear that *live*? oooo....shivers!)

crazy game

i'm sure i'll think of more...

tuesday's child

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on sat, 19 apr 1997 00:48:37 edt kirsten chevalier
<kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu> writes:

>yes. blood quantum and if you live like that were both written jointly
>by
>amy and emily. however, since neither of those songs has ever been
>released on
>any recording by epic, they don't exist. ;-)

lol!!  nice poke at epic, kirsten!  see, anj, told ya so!  thhpppt!
(yes.  i  *am* being a brat today.)   they also collaborated on "i wanna
be your lover".  em wrote the words and amy wrote the music.

tuesday's child

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can someone post me that web site..i lost it .
danks

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tigger wrote:
---snip---
>after i get my palm frond shelter built in the lee of a small cave
>within which resides the small rabbit family which i will tame and
>keep as pets, naming them chickenman, galileo, amy, emily, emory,
>caramia, shame (as in _ on you), saliers, ray and indigo.

what, no jonas and ezekiel?

peace,
fran e.

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did i remember to tell y'all that i brought my gas grill?  if whoever comes
next will be so kind as to make a run by delchamps, here's what we need:
hamburger pattys, hot dogs, hawaiian sausages (if you can get them), steaks
of every size and kind, and as much beer as you can bring!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (emilyamy@aol.com)
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so, who else is going besides me and tamara????

let's organize a get together pre-show!!


aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  and i am so psyched!
lemme know...i will do my best to organize this one!

peace and ig-

karrie

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hi folks,

my mailbox filled up and i've lost the last few digests.  could someone
please e-mail me privately and tell me *why* the lasalle show was cancelled?
i wasn't planning on going to the show or anything, but inquiring minds
wanna know...

peace,

joan (who has deleted some old messages and now has sufficient room in her
mailbox:)

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subject:      bunch of stuff

hi folks,

  well i've finally gotten some sleep and i'm a very happy
camper at the moment.   trying to catch up:

1)  thank you to everyone who sent me replacements advice --
i bout "pleased to meet me" before i came out here and i'm very
happy with it.  plus it helped me stay awake!  i think tim will be next =)

2)  every now and then, you incur a debt you simply can not
repay.  i picked up one of those on thursday evening.  although she'll
hate it -- a big huge thank you to amy putnam  for taking me
to mama kin.  my scanner is your scanner ;)  btw, this show was
incredible.  joan, has your hearing come back yet? =)  it was good to
see so many listees there!

3)  fran,  i accidently deleted your email about igboston.  can you try
again?  thanks.

4)  folks going to the great woods concert, be aware that a bunch of
us are planning a tailgate party.  old news for folks on the igboston
exploder, but i suspect many people will be traveling to this show.
the date is friday june 6th -- plan ahead, especially if you wanna
take some time off of work =)

5)  as always, i'm taking names for people in the new england area
who'd like to be included on the igboston exploder.  its not meant to
duplicate list communication, rather its to let folks know about
concerts in the ne area, planning rides to shows, talking about
get togethers, and finding housing (right anj?).  please
email me privately.

and for one unpleasant subject:

6) as the author of the longest flame in this "spelling flare-up," i
just want to mention someting very basic.  i agree with you, flames
about trivial spelling and grammar errors are pretty damn lame.  but
what happens when the erors get so thick that the point can't be
communicated?  that's why the pleas in anthony's case -- i simply
can't understand what he writes and i'm not alone.  therefore its very
frustrating to see him correct someone else's (truly trivial) spelling
error, especially when he has claimed he doesn't have time to type a
period.  hence was born the post.

i probably shouldn't have posted what i did, but please don't
characterize this as a "spelling flame."  i never have flamed anyone
for spelling a word wrong, missing a comma, or a capital letter (hell,
i f**k these up all the time myself).  the point was about
communication, intransigence (spelled right, i looked it up;)),
logical inconsistencies, and practicing what you preach.

                                -- chris


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subject:      my top five

well, i'm picking ten cds because i would take five, and sneak five (like
candy and "coke" at the movies.

they are:

1. ig -1,200 curfs
2. ig - rites o' passage
   (i need a copy of southland too)
3. allison krauss - a collection
4. mary chapin - state of the heart
5. priscilla queen o' the desert!!! soundtrack (groovey groovey)

sneaked 5:
1. shawn colvin - fat city
2.  supertramp - classics
3.  carpenters - greatest hits (hey, i'm a child of the 70's)
4. carol king - tapestry
5.  ln..~r~hh~e...i said, lllnnrshhie, okay okay i said  lionel ritchie! no
teasin'
     now.  his greatest hits.  ok so there, i'm out of the lionel closet.
whew, glad thats over with. ;-)

this is fun!!  i love seeing everyones choices
                         catherine

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as a formerly active listee forced in to lurkdom by graduate school and
other traumas, allow me the indulgence of chiming in on my desert island 5.
(is selecting 1200 curfews cheating bec. it's a double-disc set? regardless,
i've seen it on several lists so i'll take the risk). i agree with you
catherine, this is a heck of a lot of fun...and i commend you for coming out
of the lionel closet.

(not in order of preference)
1. 1200 curfews
2. helium-the dirt of luck
3. michelle shocked-mercury poise
4. ani difranco-like i said
7. 10,000 maniacs-in  my tribe

any further news on bay area concert dates for ig?
thanks for listening,
klt

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hey all,

i have a request-- can those lucky people who found stores distributing the
fabled promo calendar & single deal please tell us which stores in which
cities?? that would be very helpful & very kind.

thanks,
-alexandra

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hi everyone!
        i have in my possession 4 extra calendar things from the mama kins
show in boston.  i am willing to trade them for boots.  please email me
privately if you have something good to trade for (i.e. the top four, one
of the newport folk festival gigs, or something else awesome.  i'm just
beginning my booting career and i would like stuff that is high quality in
sound as well as important music.)

hoping this works out for mutual advantages,
gretchen hoff
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nomad indians and saints
highway 61 revisited - bob dylan
live dead (the first one) - grateful dead
live in japan - john coltrane (all right it's a 4 cd set but i can't
    resist)
close to you - kate wolf

hugh barroll

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at 12:28 pm 4/19/97 -0400, michael reynolds wrote of living in clip:


>makes 1200 pale in comparision.


that would be quite an accomplishment; 1200 curfews is a stunning live
cd.


this is seriously going to be a

>wonderful release and if you have not bought any ani cd yet because you
did

>not know which one to buy -- get this!


this month's advocate say's it's by far her best release. she's implied
as much, since she's said that her songs lose something in the studio.  i
can't wait!  actually, i guess i can wait, at least until the official
release date. :)  but i'm *really* looking forward to

it!


-----<<>-----


at 11:11 pm 4/18/97 -0700, gwendigo wrote:


>one more curious thought i have: anyone know the deal with ani and the

>girls?


i believe that amy discovered ani last year (i remember before she was
saying "everybody asks me about her...), and is now a big fan.  she's
shown up at some ani shows.    if you missed amy's review of dilate in
the advocate, there's a link to the article on the ani page at my site.


-----<<>-----


at 10:07 pm 4/18/97 pdt, digest.  i would like to be on the mailing list.
wrote:


>oh btw does any one else keep there ig stuff and other bands important
to them  in

>order by date.  all my friends laugh at me when they see this.


do you mean cds?  of course?  how else could i keep track of
everything...?!


-----<<>-----


at 12:27 pm 4/19/97 -0500, sue kwan wrote:


>the calendar promo thing will be available where the cd is sold.


cool!  thanks for the info!


>the "shame on you" single has not been "officially" released as a
single

>yet, so thats why you cant find the single cd in your store...(it will
be

>released soon, but i cant remember when)   the fact that you guys are

>hearing the new stuff on your local radio station is cool, because
that

>means the station is playing it on its own accord.


i saw an ad in goldmine for a soy single with 2 versions on it... sounds
like a promo single to me. <<shrug>


-----<<>-----


at 07:30 pm 4/19/97 edt, dianne connell wrote:

>lol!!  nice poke at epic, kirsten!


why would you want to pick on epic?  i think the girls have been treated
*very* well there... they get more promotion than any of the artists i
like, and they have clearly been able to maintain their artistic
integrity there.  as major labels go, epic seems to have done well by the
girls, don't you think?


-----<<>-----


at 11:37 pm 4/18/97 -0500, dan kraut wrote:


>that would be great if they went to all the colleges that had fans,
but

>thats not about to happen.


all the more reason to ask for ids at the door; let the students in
first, then the rest on a first-come first-served basis.


-----<<>-----


at 05:59 pm 4/19/97 +0000, andrew stokell wrote:


>please forgive the nigc but i'll keep it brief (honest!)

>just got the shawn colvin cd single - "get out of this house", and

>wondered whether any shawn fans out there (as i know you're out there)

>have the whole columbia records radio hour show, from which the live

>tracks on the single were taken??


i think that between the two import singles of this that i have, most of
it is represented:  <italic>i want it back, if i were brave, round of
blues, trouble, wichita skyline, polaroids</italic>.  i found both
singles at tower.

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subject:      nigc: hey y'all, it's mama kin, not kins!

sorry, but as someone who's been an aerosmith fan for about 25 years,
it's slightly irritating to see the name of their club misspelled. it's
named
after one of their classic songs from the '70's.

peace,
frandigo (formerly fran e.)

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subject:      sigh..my five

ok...i didn't think i was gonna post mine but i couldn't  resist

1. 1200 curfews
2. living in clip - ani
3. fumbling towards ecstasy-sarah mclachlan
4. rites of passage
5. since i couldn't decide i would make a mix of melissa etheridge, a few
small repairs-shawn colvin and tracy chapman

later
sasha

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>so, who else is going besides me and tamara????
>
>let's organize a get together pre-show!!
>
>
>aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  and i am so psyched!
>lemme know...i will do my best to organize this one!
>
>peace and ig-
>
>karrie

what???!!!  the cast of "blossom" is having a reunion?  god does exist!!!

ha,ha
justin

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i wouldn't have a top five.  i'd rather drown on the way to the island
than pick only 5 cds!!!!

of course i'm just kidding...i'm not that melodramatic.  but don't think
for a minute that i would play by the rules...it's a desert island, after
all...didn't any of you read lord of the flies?  ;)

i'm going to binky's and susieb's island!  or else i'm not going at all.
(pout)
and so my 5 cds to contribute to the communal desert island cd collection
are:
ani-like i said
johnny cash-anything, but unchained would be great just to have mean eyed
cat with us...
durufle's requiem (my recording also has faure's requiem, good 2-fer-1)
bruce springsteen-ghost of tom joad (and i hid my born to run cd in the
jewel case...sneaky girl...)
rites of passage

no one said anything about a limit of cassette tapes, so i have my whole
boot collection and cassettes of everything from billie to leonard cohen
to nine inch nails...

and books!  was there a limit on books?  i think kathy and sue are gonna
have to come to this island, so i'll just add a few books:
the man who fell in love with the moon--tom spanbauer
mama day--gloria naylor
your native land, your life *and* dream of a common language--adrienne
rich
the color purple *and* possessing the secret of joy--alice walker
beloved--toni morrison
outrageous acts and everyday rebellions--gloria steinem

you know, this island is starting to sound like folkworld again...which
isn't half bad!  ;) and wow! lookit this! a whale just beached herself
here and coughed up a package...wait, it looks like a bundle of
cds!...i'll unpack the cds and you guys can help the whale back to
safety...

theres bruce's nebraska in here...and joni's blue...and mcc's stones in
the road...cowboy junkies' trinity sessions...peter gabriel,
so...swamp ophelia...ani's dilate and puddle dive...danielle howle live at
mckissack museum...peter frampton comes alive...hey how did that get in
there?!?! <g>

well i guess someone's looking out for me, even if they aren't *out
looking* for me...

these are great fun to read!!
*************************************************************************
it's like trying to fight gravity on a planet that insists
that love is like falling and falling is like this.--ani
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
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hi all,

i've been in hades since i skipped 3 days of tax season to do the tulsa
and ft. worth ig shows.  but it was well worth it and i'd do it again.
<bg>
that must have been what irs was thinking of when they started allowing
extensions. ;-)
therefore i missed the beginning of the 5 day thang. but i got the gist.
i wander close and far from my home but i never leave without my box of
cds. to only choose 5? ok.
        ig - "1200 curfews"
        ani difranco - "imperfectly"
        melissa etheridge - "passion & promise" (so what if it's a boot, i have
it, i can take it! <bg>)
        sara hickman - until a month ago it would have been "shortstop", now
it's her new one "misfits" 'cause it just gives me more every time i
hear it.
        kristen hall - "be careful what you wish for"

karen

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>>>from:    anjeanette milner <boilrmkr@bu.edu>
>>>subject: igc questions.. put your thinking caps on
>
>>>2) if you could recommend a book that was inspirational to you
>>>(or even just a good read you wanted to pass on) that you would
>>>recommend to ig in a response to all the inspirational music
>>>they've given, what would it be?

"the armless maiden and other tales for childhood's survivors", edited by
terri windling.  i simply cannot gush enough about this book.  when i
read it i wanted to give a copy to every single person i knew.

"the armless maiden is a theme anthology, that theme being childhood and
its darker passages...this is a book about childhood; but, even though it
is full of fairy stories, it is not a book for children...the fairy tales
in this book are both dark and bright, with pain and anger, wonder and
hope. they are new tales spun from the threads of the old. through the
metamorphic language of fantasy, they look into the darkest shadows of
the night, yet find by night's end the silver glimmer of dawn."  terri
windling from her introduction

beg,borrow, or buy it.  but above all, read it.

tuesday's child

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ok, y'all aren't going to believe this, but remember i said i wrote a
letter to jerry falwell and pat robertson? well, today i received a reply
from a woman who works for falwell. she said they don't normally respond
to these kind of things because they receive so many of them, but for
some reason mine caught their eye, and she wanted to respond. she has now
offered to engage me in a debate on the subject. she responded to some
specific points of mine, and asked me some questions, and i'm going to
respond in an intelligent, adult manner. i know this is wicked nigc, but
i think this is amazing!!!  lil' ol' me actually has the oportunity to
share my thoughts with someone in his church, and _perhaps_ get them to
spend a moment or two considering my point of view. wow!! i'm not going
to post my letter, or this woman's response because both are personal,
and i don't think this woman has any idea that i have the potential to
share her thoughts with 1000 other people. ;) but if any of you have
thoughts on the subject or want to know the general gist of what has been
said i'd be happy to share. :)

see what a few well written words can do? ;) ;)
folkisgruven,
lorindigo


still driving...
lorinda wright           the trouble in my head is getting closer and closer
washington university     to my legs i've got to walk it out. and the trouble
st. louis, mo             with my heart is that i can't rip it out. and the
                          trouble with myself is that i don't know me.
                                                        -melissa ferrick
                    i will not be complacent

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subject:      my top five!

jumping on the bandwagon. . .

1) 1200 curfews - ig
2) absolute torch and twang - kd lang
3) tracy chapman - tracy chapman
4) yes i am - melissa etheridge
5) stones in the road - mary chapin carpenter
and
6)  the concert in central park - simon & garfunkel
(couldn't just pick 5!!!)

anybody have a boot of the tcu show??
amy

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at 06:20 am 4/21/97 +0000, you wrote:

>jumping on the bandwagon. . .

i couldn't resist...

1.  rumours - fleetwood mac
2.  pretenders - pretenders
3.  indigo girls - indigo girls
4.  maria mckee - maria mckee
5.  melissa etheridge - melissa etheridge

i've collected on all of the above in the past...tt

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subject:      re : the island

ok, if we're all going to the same island, what are we going to name
it?

john.

"look funny, dress bad, smell nasty.....
you must work for hera...."

hercules.

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***tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet****  blowing whistle

>before we get another thread started, can i ask everyone not to post their
pro/anti-choice sentiments to the list?

>i was an accident y'all, and my mother tried to abort me and did not
succeed. luckily i wasn't damaged physically but >i have a lot of mental
adhd and
>things like that.  please let's not get this started.  we have better
things to talk about.

i once went to a denny's and had to wait more than 20 minutes for a table.

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hi!

for anyone who didn't get the joke in my post on friday (and
apparently there are a lot of you), in the uk "spelled" is spelt
"spelt", just like "color" "colour".* people over here also drive on
the left, drink in pubs, and talk kind of funny.**

since i've been on the list since 14 november 1995, if i were
*really* grading posts, i'd have quite a backlog by now.***

i'm really, really, really, really, really sorry that i made a joke
on the list. it won't happen again.****

now, for a very minor ig content:

in about june 1988, the indigo girls gave a live interview on duke's
campus radio station.  does anyone else know anything about this
interview?  any tapes around?  anyone remember this besides me?  it
was right before they were going to play at cat's cradle.

cheerio and pip-pip,
kate

*in other words, it was a meta-joke about the semiotics of spelling
flames, as all systems of orthography are arbitrary and only work by
mutual agreement.  i don't really care about how people post to the
list; i just ignore those posts that take too much deciphering.

**compared with everyone back home in north carolina.

***starting with the poster who was studying "custard's last stand"
in history class.

****nothing else, i just like footnotes.
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what if this desert doesn't have electricity? if it does what kind of
cd-player would you bring. i really like the panosonic cdxo 5502. its got a
rating of 7 from
audio magazine and the picture in the article shows 1200 curfews in a pile
of cd's.
i think amy would approve...

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on mon, 21 apr 1997, poul verner wrote:

> what if this desert doesn't have electricity? if it does what kind of
> cd-player would you bring. i really like the panosonic cdxo 5502. its got a
> rating of 7 from
> audio magazine and the picture in the article shows 1200 curfews in a pile
> of cd's.
> i think amy would approve...
>
man, you're crazy. amy would never approve of panasonic products! don't
you know where they're made?!? geez...

besides, a portable with a good set of headphones would be much better for
desert island use. just ask anyone!

sheesh...

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at 08:38 am 4/21/97 -0400, poul verner wrote:
>.......  we have better things to talk about.
>
>i once went to a denny's and had to wait more than 20 minutes for a table.

oh my gawd!  i once went to denny's and never got my coffee refilled after
the first cup.....i was dying from thirst!  whew!  i'm so glad we have this
open forum so that we can discuss these very important issues....thanks for
sharing, paul.

my, but everyone has been as quiet as a church mouse lately....all catching
our breath?

happy patriots day everyone!  many of us in massachusetts have the day
off....boston marathon is starting at noon in hopkington mass, and the sun
is out!  who out there remembers "paul revere's ride?"  i had to learn the
poem in 7th grade and can only remember the first 3 verses...lessseee....

listen my children and you shall hear
of the midnight ride of paul revere
on the 18th of april in '75
hardly a man is now alive
who remembers that famous day and year.

he said to his friend "if the british march
by land or sea through the town tonite
hang a lantern aloft in the belfry arch
of the old north church as a signal light."

(here's the part i think you'll all recognize...)

"one, if by land, two, if by sea
and i, on the opposite shore shall be
ready to ride and spread the alarm
to every middlesex village and farm
for the countryfolk to be up and to arm."

that's all i remember....

i was in philly once at the liberty bell...there was this brit there looking
at the bell at the same time...he turned to me and said "do all americans
still hate the british?"  i was like "what?  we don't hate the british!
hehehe, that was a very long time ago, and as i remember it, we got what we
wanted out of that little skirmish so why on earth would you think we hated
you all?"  he said "well, there's all this stuff around here about the
war..."  i said "well, this is philadelphia, independance hall, liberty
bell, etc.  it's just history...nothing to worry about .... we're not still
mad at you.."   very funny conversation, it was.  he at least went away
feeling better.  he honestly felt like he had to watch his back 'cuz he was
british...like someone was going to start a fight with him or
something....made me laugh.....he was cute....

anyway, i've babbled enough!  happy patriot's day!  let the warm weather begin!

joni :o)

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> joan m. cyr, revisionist historian, wrote:

> who out there remembers "paul revere's ride?"  i had to learn the
> poem in 7th grade and can only remember the first 3 verses...lessseee....
>
> listen my children and you shall hear
> of the midnight ride of paul revere
> on the 18th of april in '75

uh, joni, hun, i hate to bring up the fact that 7th grade was a looooong
time ago for you n all, but wasn't it the _19th_ of april?

> that's all i remember....

not toooo shabby, grandma.... :-)

soon to be employed n giving joni a cut of the signing bonus cuz she
guilted me into me into taking the job...


k8                        o
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on mon, 21 apr 1997, poul verner wrote:


> audio magazine and the picture in the article shows 1200 curfews in a
pile > of cd's.
> i think amy would approve...
>
man, you're crazy. amy would never approve of panasonic products! don't
you know where they're made?!? geez...

*and you have some deep pschyic connection with amy!? who really cares
where the hell its made. it sounds great!
it could be made in a chinese labor camp for all i care. it doesn't make it
sound any worse for that and i got a
good deal for it. so bite me i guess. you silly heterosexual


besides, a portable with a good set of headphones would be much better for
desert island use. just ask anyone!

sheesh...

*portables are for lamers and frat boys. you appear to offer a little of
both.

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> >
> > listen my children and you shall hear
> > of the midnight ride of paul revere
> > on the 18th of april in '75

ok, hold yer fingers... i'm gonna flame myself b4 y'all get the chance....
longfellow did write 18th of april, even tho it might have been
technically the 19th, cuz it was late at night n all .... yeesh.... so
much for the value of a yale history ph.d.....

joni, i grovel at your petite feet for forgiveness....

k8

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at 09:44 am 4/21/97 -0400, poul verner wrote:
>indigo-girls@netspace.org
>subject:  re: cd's for a desert island (marginal igc)
>
>
>
>
>on mon, 21 apr 1997, poul verner wrote:
>
>
>> audio magazine and the picture in the article shows 1200 curfews in a
>pile > of cd's.
>> i think amy would approve...
>>
>man, you're crazy. amy would never approve of panasonic products! don't
>you know where they're made?!? geez...
>
>*and you have some deep pschyic connection with amy!? who really cares
>where the hell its made. it sounds great!
>it could be made in a chinese labor camp for all i care. it doesn't make it
> sound any worse for that and i got a
>good deal for it. so bite me i guess. you silly heterosexual
>
>
>
>
>besides, a portable with a good set of headphones would be much better for
>desert island use. just ask anyone!
>
>sheesh...
>
>*portables are for lamers and frat boys. you appear to offer a little of
>both.
>
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hey!


let's just stop this right here!!!


ok? now shake hands, and both promise not to take this any further.

i personally have not gotten over the spelling war, i can't take a
cd-player war.

merry patriot's day,

raine

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 09:57:50 -0400
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from:         andrea mcgraw <finellamac@aol.com>
subject:      delurking, la salle tix wanted...still!! :)

hello, there...


i'm doing this properly now.. i replied to someone yesterday, slow to realize
that the reply doesn't go back to the list... oops.. :)

i'm andi mcgraw, been away from here since '93, and amazed at how big things
are here now... whew!  i'm a music therapy intern at a state psych hospital
in md, but i went to michigan state for my studies.

anyway, business:  if the la salle concert is rescheduled, and if it is
rescheduled for some evening in the next two weeks, i would be very
interested in one ticket for my fiance (neil hunt, some of you may know that
silly brit)... neil will be here from this friday til the 11th of may, and
he's jealous that i will be seeing the girls twice without him :):)
just let me know in private e-mail, and all will be well...

and a huge public bow/curtsy/physical gesture of awe and reverence for andi
lipman and jen for getting tickets for the ill-fated la salle concert...:):)
you are brave souls,and i salute you. :)  thanks for keeping us all updated
on things.

peace,

andi (mcgraw:)

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 09:19:48 -0500
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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      desert island

1.  indigo girls        - "indigo girls"
2.  the eagles          - "greatest hits - vol 1"
3.  linda ronstadt      - "greatest hits - vol 1"
4.  bob wills           - "for the last time"
5.  emily lou harris, dolly pardon, and linda ronstadt
                        - "trio"


trant

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 15:19:07 +0100
reply-to:     indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
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from:         indigo jo <mts5@aber.ac.uk>
subject:      re: denny's and patriot's day... (nigc)
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uon mon, 21 apr 1997, joan m. cyr wrote:

> at 08:38 am 4/21/97 -0400, poul verner wrote:
> >.......  we have better things to talk about.
> >
> >i once went to a denny's and had to wait more than 20 minutes for a table.
>
> oh my gawd!  i once went to denny's and never got my coffee refilled after
> the first cup.....i was dying from thirst!  whew!  i'm so glad we have this
> open forum so that we can discuss these very important issues....thanks for
> sharing, paul.

might i ask what this has to do with tigger's post about nearly being
aborted???

mat

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 09:33:02 -0500
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ok y'all . enough already about spelling, anti/pro life, and amy's tattoo.
let's get on to the real stuff here.

i have boots of the fort worth concert, and after fixing the tape on my
dubbing equipment, it sounds pretty good. so i would like to set up a
tree-with very experienced branches who can tell me what to do next. all
volunteers considered. i have decided to pick a person for each month of
the year (jan, feb, etc. ya know). please e-mail me privately and then once
i get the volunteers together (you sweet thangs), i will post it and all
interested may contact them. this way all the eager children don't have to
be writing me all the time :)
urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 10:31:50 -0400
reply-to:     drew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
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from:         drew vogel <vogelap@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
subject:      re: cd's for a desert island (marginal igc)
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on mon, 21 apr 1997, raine wrote:

> >man, you're crazy. amy would never approve of panasonic products! don't
> >you know where they're made?!? geez...
> >
> >*and you have some deep pschyic connection with amy!? who really cares
> >where the hell its made. it sounds great!
> >it could be made in a chinese labor camp for all i care. it doesn't make it
> > sound any worse for that and i got a
> >good deal for it. so bite me i guess. you silly heterosexual
> >
> >besides, a portable with a good set of headphones would be much better for
> >desert island use. just ask anyone!
> >
> >*portables are for lamers and frat boys. you appear to offer a little of
> >both.
> >
> >*an "actor" and "single" -figures.
> >
> hey!
>
> let's just stop this right here!!!
>
> ok? now shake hands, and both promise not to take this any further.
>
> i personally have not gotten over the spelling war, i can't take a
> cd-player war.
>
does anyone want to hold me back from ripping this sexist, elitist,
idiotic, foolish, childish little creep a brand new one?

man, all i said is that amy probably wouldn't approve of panasonic because
they're made in china in technilogical 'sweat shops' (primetime live told
me so), and that knowing amy's concern for humanity that she wouldn't go
for it. geez... this dude's got a chip on his shoulder, eh?

then he's gotta go and get all over me being an actor and single! what a
creep. at least he didn't say anything about my dog...

(calming down)

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 10:35:38 -0400
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subject:      re: cd's for a desert island

in a message dated 97-04-19 13:20:20 edt, our beloved miss binky signed as

<< bonky >>

is this what happens when the binkster runs into a door?

just a ridiculous random thought....

we now return you to reality, already in progress....

dawn

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subject:      re: my top five!

i want to do this again....hehehe.... this time i'm gonna choose ten because
ummm? well because a lot of other people did, and i don't want to be a whimp
who plays by the rules. ok....
1200 cerfews
swamp ophelia
honor the earth cd
j c superstar (ted neely version)
true colors(cyndi lauper)
sound of silence(simon and garfunkel)
rhythm of the saints (paul simon)
your little secret(melissa etheridge)
the inevidible(squirrel nut zippers)
shaming of the sun

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i would be afraid to limit myself, if only in fear that i would become
utterly sick of those five, previously well-liked cds!  but i thought i
would add my five to this very intriguing thread:

(in no particular order)
1. 1200 curfews (i say it counts as 1)
2. graceland (paul simon)
3. under the table and dreaming (dave matthews band)
4. pieces of you (jewel)
5. dejavu (crosby stills nash and young)

these are not my top 5 favorites, but i chose them based on the fact that a)
i own (4/5) them already (no time for shopping before getting shipped off)
and b) i'd need some variety on the island.  if there's one thing i can say
about my music tastes, it's that it's extremely varied.  this list doesn't
reflect that as much as my actual (small) cd collection does.

anyone out there going to the same island as me?  :)

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skidmore college
saratoga springs, ny
swarnock@skidmore.edu
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at 09:49 am 4/21/97 -0400, katherine grant wrote:
>
>> joan m. cyr, revisionist historian, wrote:
.........
>> on the 18th of april in '75
>
>uh, joni, hun, i hate to bring up the fact that 7th grade was a looooong
>time ago for you n all, but wasn't it the _19th_ of april?

ok, i normally i don't like to question the teacher, and in this case,
especially don't like to question the history teacher, but i believe the
*ride* took place on the 18th of april and the battle on the
19th...jmhslightlyeducatedo.....correct me if i'm wrong, teach....

>soon to be employed n giving joni a cut of the signing bonus cuz she
>guilted me into me into taking the job...

whoo hoo!  yay!  i'll buy you a beer on saturday katie cutie!
joni :o)

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at 09:54 am 4/21/97 -0400, katherine grant wrote:

>ok, hold yer fingers... i'm gonna flame myself b4 y'all get the chance....
>longfellow did write 18th of april, even tho it might have been
>technically the 19th, cuz it was late at night n all .... yeesh.... so
>much for the value of a yale history ph.d.....

sorry, but my fingers were just toooooo lightening fast...see my other post...
>
>joni, i grovel at your petite feet for forgiveness....

no worries...but now, you have to buy me a beer on saturday.....k?
joni :o)

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 17:02:02 +0100
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subject:      re : cd player

ok, we don't need to talk about specifics when referring to the cd
player - it could be any kind.....

however, i think the way we could get electricity for the island
would be to use a generator of some kind.......

john.

"look funny, dress bad, smell nasty.....
you must work for hera...."

hercules.

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date:         mon, 21 apr 1997 11:01:00 edt
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subject:      atl journal-constituion article

got this off the ig usenet group.....


this article appeared in today's (4/20/97) atlanta journal-constituti