lifeblood: listlogs: 1997-06a


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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 00:30:54 -0400
reply-to:     joanie <joanie1@grove.ufl.edu>
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at 11:55 pm 5/31/97 -0400, you wrote:

>as the first single, "shame on you" starts into the top 40, the music world
>was set on its ear by today's announcement of amy ray's engagement to rapper
>coolio, whose tune "gangsta's paradise" was perhaps the most well-known song
>on the soundtrack "dangerous minds."
>

that was cruel!!! too cruel. i've been driving since 10 this morning so, not
being in a coherent state of mind, i actually believed it for a second.

:)

jendy

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 00:36:33 -0400
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in a message dated 97-05-31 14:58:36 edt, shafer@kingsnet.com (carrie)
writes:

snip...

<<   i will be buying two tickets, so i am wondering if anyone
has opinions on whether it would be worth the extra money to get
reserved seating.  i'm more than willing to pay if it is.  thanks in
advance for any advice anyone can offer.

take it easy...

carrie
  >>
i'm a greek theatre veteran. if it matters to you that you can notice the
hair sitting on amy's nose and practically have the sweat roll off emily's
forehead and onto you, get reserved. lawn is nice too, but on the day of the
concert, go early or you'll be sliding down the hill all night.
if you do get reserved seats, get to your ticket vendor early. don't call
bass on sunday if you want primo tickets: you won't get through for hours,
especially if you don't have redial.
as for me, i'm going twice. once with folks from my church (mellow gay
christians all) on the lawn, and reserved the next night. i'll be at the
greek box office by 8:30am tomorrow!

karen

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 01:00:52 edt
reply-to:     jeremy ames <gaiachild@juno.com>
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from:         jeremy ames <gaiachild@juno.com>
subject:      an indigo inspired moment

okay, i'm not exactly sure why i am posting this to the list, but it just
feels right.  i graduated from high school last week.  tonight i went out
with my best friend and two friends of ours to celebrate a scholarship i
found out i won today.  one of the friends was my ex-girlfriend.  the
only relationship i had ever been in; i guess first love would be the
right terminology.  last march she completely broke my heart and it took
us months to secure a normal friendship again.  yesterday, she approached
me about getting back together (despite the fact that i am going away to
college this fall and she has a year left).  anyway, i ended up breaking
her heart which i really hated, and now it will take another couple
months (if ever) for us to get the friendship thing back.

yes this message  does have igc.  i drove home, feeling like crap.  i
remember po2 had been our song, and that i still had all our old love
letters (not sure why i had been saving them so long).  so i dug them
out, went out to the kitchen and played po2; remembering the good times.
then i went out the deck, opened the grill, threw in the old letters and
set them on fire.  i just stood there and watched them burn, and got this
fulfilling sense of closure and catharsis.  anyway, emily saliers's songs
helped inspire the moment so i thought i would make a fool out of myself
and share the whole thing with all you out there.

jeremy

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 01:18:03 -0400
reply-to:     audrey beth stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
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from:         audrey beth stein <abstein@force.stwing.upenn.edu>
subject:      hartford review of sorts
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life doesn't get much better than seeing an indigo girls show with good
friends, whether you're meeting in person for the first time or haven't
seen each other for awhile.   y'all know who you are...thanks for making
it a special evening.  andi, we missed you.

nice to be able to finally sing along and mean it "got my paper and i was
free"

i can't say objectively how the show compared to others, but for me each
one has been a unique personal experience, and so far each has reached me
in a different way....i've been reminded of what's important and what
should be treasured, i've learned, i've been left to feel less lonely and
more understood....  this time it was this train revised which moved me to
tears, really put most everything in my life in perspective... if even one
song can do that the night is worthwhile for me.  and as always seeing
emily's smile during galileo and closer to fine reassures me that it's
possible to do what you really love be happy inside and succeed in terms
of the larger world, connect with people through words.  also makes me
wonder why so few people even really try, but that's a whole other can of
beans.

(sus, i think that's a better answer than the one i gave you  of what i
thought of the show, but i think you probably knew most of it anyway...)


g'night y'all,
audrey

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 02:54:43 -0400
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from:         "ilana deutsch (wind80)" <wind80@aol.com>
subject:      hartford review

hey y'all,

well, i just got back from the show and am still on this thing y'all have
mentioned as a "spiritual high" of sorts....i just can't stop smiling. i felt
that it was definitly the best indigo show i've been too (being that it's the
2nd not much to compare). i thought that suprisingly amy was very into it the
entire night but emily on the other hand was very distracted...well that was
just my opinion. i didn't get down the setlist in order but i'm sure someone
else will post it.
now i'll move onto my personal experience from the show. after it was all
over i went outside and who do i see standing by the backstage door? jennifer
from ulali. so me and my two friends went up to her and said some words of
praise and walked away thinking nothing of it. all of a sudden my friend
turns to me and says, "maybe we should get her autograph." so i'm game...we
walk up and ask, and she was so suprised that we asked her, it was weird.
well, she's like, " do you want amy and emily's autograph?" well, whjat kind
of question is that? so she went backstage and came out a few minutes later
and on our ticket stubs were jerry marotta's, sara lee's, amy ray's
signatures...she couldn't get emily's because she had already  left. that
made my evening...thanks jennifer!!!!

time to get some shut eye.....a little "sleepy from the travel, played our
hearts out all night long" ok really tired.

love ,
ilana and mer (her camp friend)

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 17:58:43 +1000
reply-to:     sandy indlekofer-o'sullivan <sandy@uow.edu.au>
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hello

i am just wondering if there are any folk out there who are scanning piccies
from the concerts - since i and several others on the list wont get to see
the ig due to our locations around the globe, it would be great to get to
see
the images and stuff.  thanks if this is poss, that would be great.  if you
need somewhere to store them, somewhere to scan them (only hassle is you
would
have to send em to me in aus), someone to script it - i am happy to.

regards,
sandy

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 06:59:14 -0500
reply-to:     "brenda m. eastman" <margee@writeme.com>
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sara krausert wrote:
>
> on sat, 31 may 1997, lawyerman wrote:
> > also, was anyone able to get first tier reserved seats (i.e. section
> > numbers in the 100's) besides dwayne jarrell who has already posted? if
> > so, what time did you get them?
>
> my friend got through at about 12:03 and we are in the second tier,
> section 203.

i got through at 12:22 and was also told that the best seats remaining
were in section 203.  i said, "wow.  there are no more seats on the
first floor?  it's just after noon."  ticketwench said, "alot can happen
in 22 minutes."

i guess not as much as can happen in 3 minutes.  i hate ticketmeister!

so i downloaded a seating map from tm's web site for the new world
theatre.  section 203 is pavillion 2 (second level?) and off to the
right as it faces the stage.  oh well. at least i'll be in the same room
as emily and amy.

scott
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were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that
fought with us upon saint crispian's day.

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 07:04:32 -0500
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sue wrote:
>
> whoever said they got section 103 (i think its dwayne...hi dwayne!)  that is
> a very good section, so dont worry about what your seat numbers are. (all
> seats in 103 are dead center)  that section is probably the only section at
> the world that is totally clear of view obstruction (they have big poles
> everywhere)


and becky b. wrote:
>
>do not worry if you got second tier or lawn seats.  it is a (fairly)
>small place and all the seats are good.  you can hear well everywhere,
>and there aren't any poles or anything in the way of your view.


so who's the liar liar pants on fire?

scott
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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 08:59:33 -0400
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subject:      final dubber list for the summertime newbie tree

thanks to everyone who volunteered to dub boots for the summertime newbie
tree now in operation.  to recap and give you a final list of dubbers:

lmayne@u.washington.edu
frandigo@juno.com
sherlyn@fl.net.au   australia
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu  for blue food & chapel hill only and only for june 1997
kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu
ndygopg@aol.com
annotatedherb@juno.com
cathley@aol.com
mmacvey@attach.net
robin_squires@ ymca.ca   for canada
d.obray@m.cc.utah.edu


not *everyone* has all the tapes but by contacting several from the list
above, perhaps you can eventually get them all.  the tapes in this offering
are:

1981
tuesday's children (studio)
60 min
wysteria, carolina in my mind, jukie's lament, her town too, house
at pooh corner, danny's song, rock me on the water, father and son,
come down in time, it's too late, you've got a friend, dancing
shoes, long ago and far away, leaving ain't fair, a heart in new
york, tuesday's children

1982
color me grey (amy ray)
60 min
scared to say we're friends, nashville, falling star, carry me
away, anyway i love you, clues to you, always be there, color me
grey, free through eternity, passing time, losing touch, erase the
pain, anyone but myself

1985
blue food - the dugout, decatur, ga
60 min
if you live like that, crazy game, holy city, weakness in me, never
stop, peace song, draw the line, nashville, malachy's, everybody's
waiting (studio), the untitled song, running from the cold, no way
to treat a friend, i wanna be your lover, american tune

1985
the dugout, decatur, ga
60 min
up on the roof, summer-highland falls, the untitled song, rock me
on the water, draw the line, no way to treat a friend, crazy game,
romeo and juliet, love the one you're with, if you live like that,
nashville, fire and rain, drift away, up on the roof

1986
the purple parrot, atlanta, ga
90 min
no way to treat a friend, if you live like that, weakness in me,
love of the common people, house at pooh corner,  danny's song,
holy city, never stop, hammond song, drift away, love the one
you're with, draw the line, girls talk, the water is wide, the
unititled song, everybody's waiting, crazy game, up on the roof,
country road, it's too late, summertime

march 16, 1987
the white dot
atlanta, ga
60min
prince of darkness, cold as ice, make it easier, secure yourself,
up in smoke, pushing the needle too far, summertime, walk away,
from beauty to disaster, land of canaan, mandy, high horse, all
along the watchtower


plus a wonderful little tape called 1980s misc live stuff (90 min) that has
the following setlist:

strange fire, blood & fire, romeo & juliet, walk away, play it again, sam,
all along the watchtower, high horse, heartache central time (amy as you have
prolly *never* heard her :) please call me, baby (as em says here: it is
please call me (comma) baby:)

thin line (the only one of this group they still perform), the ballad of
squeaky fromme, river (cover of song by joni mitchell) prince of darkness,
holy city, make it easier and nashville.

contact the dubber of your choice and remember the packaging directions:

<snip>

get a small padded envelope (the post office sells them) and a larger one
that is not padded.  write your address on the padded envelope and put a
blank tape(s) in it.

***also put in a note telling the dubber what the blank tape(s) is/are
for.***

put the dubber's address on the larger envelope:

ask the post office person to weigh the total package and then ask for the
same amount in stamps which you will put on the padded envelope to ensure it
gets back to you.

close up the larger envelope and mail it :)

wait.

enjoy:)

jude :)

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 09:55:10 -0400
reply-to:     iyr@aol.com
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subject:      do we have a new bootleg shop?

so, does anyone know of a record shop in the country that has taken up where
rainy day left off....?

perry said that he was sure one would pop up when rainy went down.  if theres
a market...someone will jump in...
just curious...thanks
rob

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 09:19:10 -0500
reply-to:     amber batson <arbatson@iglobal.net>
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hey, this is the same person that frantically posted earlier about obtaining
a ticket for the new orleans show. i got an error on my free account and it
ended up deleting my email, so i don't know if anyone responded or not, but
i'm kind-of frantically posting again and i have real internet access now.
(at least this month)so, if you know any way that i can get a hold of a
ticket, tell me! sorry for bandwidth.
amber batson

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reply-to:     sue <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
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from:         sue <skwan@midway.uchicago.edu>
subject:      re: just curious about lf chicago tickets.
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at 07:04 am 6/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>and becky b. wrote:
>>
>>do not worry if you got second tier or lawn seats.  it is a (fairly)
>>small place and all the seats are good.  you can hear well everywhere,
>>and there aren't any poles or anything in the way of your view.

then scott says:
>so who's the liar liar pants on fire?

there are poles in the pavilion part of the world music theatre.  these
poles are not right in front of seating, but if you have an angled lawn spot
or seat, your view *may* be affected (and as i said, it depends on where you
are)  the seeing well and hearing well at this place depends on how picky
you are about stuff like that (imho, the acoustics can be better at this
venue)....also, the world seats about 35,000 and the majority are lawn,
soooo my point is, if you have pavilion -- you're at least closer to the
stage...

and if for some reason i am wrong about the poles (which i dont think i am),
then i need to seriously stop drinking so much at concerts...<koff koff>

later poeple....
---sue

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i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned    #=={o/)
i said remember this as how it should be..."        <<                                 -- a.r.

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 10:59:35 -0400
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subject:      hartford

hey guys ....

last night was awesome - much better than the show at the mann (just my
opinion) ... the girls were both very lively - amy had a grin on here face
the whole night and emily was soooo into it - jamming away and singing her
heart out - is it me or did she change some of the wording to a few songs -
caramia comes to mind - ??? maybe it was just me ... i brought my sister with
me (she's 8 months pregnant and said if she went into labor at the show she
would name the baby after them - indigo for a boy and amy or emily for a girl
!!!) but no such thing happened .... we were third tow center - awesome
awesome seats !!!! i got a few smiles from emily as i tried to blow some
"bubbles" with my little bottle of pink stuff ... but it wasn't going to well
... ulali ruled again - i also met jennifer outside the backstage door - she
was extremly sweet - i told her my friend michele & i were the ones who
screamed out "hartford" when she said that was her hometown at the mann show
... i saw many a list person at the show - i also was wearing my list shirt
and my new ig hat - a gift from sis :) ..... i must say all in all this was
one of the best shows .... amy broke a string during this train ... then her
guitar was out of tune as she started dgtgag - she stopped and said - "sorry
y'all" ... and re-tuned it .....

fashion report - amy needs to lose these polyester black levi's she's been
wearing - she had them on at both the mann & the meadows ... and she had on a
light colored - white or natural - polyester retro shirt with printed designs
all over it ... emily looked great - black jeans (again) and a ble longsleeve
shirt with print ... note: em came out with both sleeves rolled up ... amy
rolled the right sleeve up before she played her first note ... i'm one of
the people who misses seeing her other arm ... :(   sorry ..

here's the setlist .... to the best of my recollection:

mystery
shame on you
get out the map
three hits
it's alright
hey kind friend
least complicated
shed your skin (w/ulali)
leeds (w/ulali)
this train
power of two
don't give that girl a gun (very intense)
caramia
tried to be true
everything in it's own time
scooter boys
galileo

encore #1:
burn all the letters (w/ulali & my bubbles)
bury my heart at wounded knee (w/ulali) --- incredible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
closer to fine

encore #2
kid fears (w/my bubbles - again)

what kills me is that this is the second time (philly the night before) that
i could've walked in with a tape deck and not had it taken away - the mann no
one was searching and now last night - my sister brought in her bag of food
(apple, crackers, cereal & tums - we told them it stuff she can't get at the
vendors and needs cause of cravings !!!!!) - i could've easy brought my deck
in .... but no .....

so - did anyone boot either of these shows ???????????????

more insight later - i must get some food into me !!!!!!!!!!

chris

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 10:00:57 -0500
reply-to:     abigail <abaroo@execpc.com>
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subject:      re: fwd: ig article in "my" home newspaper
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>tigger's article--<snipped>
>

wow, you know what? seriously not funny. not only is it dangerously
misleading, but i'd imagine it's also probably highly illegal to make up an
article, complete with fake quotes from an individual and then cite it to a
newspaper. even with the disclaimer at the end, you just shouldn't go there.
*furthermore* what i personally found most disturbing was the personal
information you dropped so casually about amy and emily's lives. do you
realize how many people receive this list? by mixing misconstrued facts with
a lot of fiction, you've way overstepped bounds of privacy and sharing
information like that is just not funny. (emily living with a 14-year-old
prostitute? this is supposed to be humorous?!) sadly, i now clearly
understand why amy and emily have their doubts and dislike for our list.

~abigail

"taken out of context i must seem so strange"
      ~ani difranco

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 11:02:23 -0400
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from:         "j \"tigger\" kickliter" <ndygoopg@aol.com>
subject:      i need a little help

i had a boot.  the name of this boot i do not know.  the reason i know that i
cannot find this boot is because of a snippet on it.  i cannot find this
snippet, and i'm getting irritated.  here's the deal:  "reunion" is on this
boot.  right before they play it, amy tells a little story that goes
something like this:  "i went to my high school reunion and every time i
hugged somebody my friend would be like 'that person you just hugged hated
you in high school and  made fun of you every day' and i was  like  'shit'."

does anyone recognize this snip?  does anyone know what boot it's on?  i have
located all the tapes on my boot list so this one either doesn't have reunion
listed on the back or else i forgot to put it on the list - someone please
help me here!!!  if you know the name let me know, and be warned that i may
need to get you to dub it for me.

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygoopg@aol.com)
   member - ssim yknib naf bulc
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"it's alright if you hate that way/hate me 'cause i'm different/hate me
'cause i'm gay..." - e. saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think we were on the same boat back in 1694" -
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"mothers tell your children/be quick you must be strong/life is full of
wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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subject:      re: ppv in sf bay area?

ditto. my uncle saw something for it on a ppv advertisment but we can't find
the advertisment again and it is not listed. any one know exactly when it is
on westcoast time?
thanks!

-catherine

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hey everyone,
        maybe i have just been lucky but as i said before, i've never had
a problem seeing anything at the world music theater.  everyone is
complaining about the second-tier seats, i think they're pretty good!!
        i mean, let's evaluate this.  i'm happy just to see the indigo
girls.  if we could only get second tier seats at 3 minutes after 12,
what about the people who called at 1 pm?
        i think ticketmaster runs a pretty shady operation but we don't
really have any choice except to deal with it.  i'll stand by my claim
that almost any seat is good at the world.  feel free to debate me.

becky b. :)

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        i must say, around some corner i can sense a resting place
        with every lesson learned, a line upon your beautiful face
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on sun, 1 jun 1997, brenda m. eastman wrote:

> sue wrote:
> >
> > whoever said they got section 103 (i think its dwayne...hi dwayne!)  that is
> > a very good section, so dont worry about what your seat numbers are. (all
> > seats in 103 are dead center)  that section is probably the only section at
> > the world that is totally clear of view obstruction (they have big poles
> > everywhere)
>
>
> and becky b. wrote:
> >
> >do not worry if you got second tier or lawn seats.  it is a (fairly)
> >small place and all the seats are good.  you can hear well everywhere,
> >and there aren't any poles or anything in the way of your view.
>
>
> so who's the liar liar pants on fire?
>
> scott
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hi.

to all the kind people who e-mailed me with advice regarding getting
tickets to the ig show at berkeley (my first)... i just got my tickets,
and they're reserved seating.  ;)   thanks again for all your help, and
i hope everyone has as much luck as i did.

take it easy...

carrie

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subject:      ig world cafe - philly

can someone give me the date for the ig on world cafe from tongue & groove in
philly !?!?!?

i got a copy from a friend of mine this weekend, but there was no date on it
!!!!!!

thanks (my 9,000th post to the list in two days !!!)

chris

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hi kids!

i am so excited...got 2 tix for saturday night and 4 for sunday
afternoon at the greek in berkeley...

does anyone know how good these seats are?:

sec e, row 3, seats 5-7,
sec a, row 7, seats 9 and 10.

and shall we plan any gatherings around this?


love and excitement,


-larissa

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subject:      6/4

the june 4th show is at sony studios and is for hard rock live.  the tix
never went on sale for that show...they were given away by vh1.

mindala

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subject:      berkeley shows

     just got tix for july 5, it was 10:01 so i hope they're good seats!
i could hear the other agents in the back on the phone saying to other ticket
buyers "thats indigo girls at the blah blah on blah blah, at 8:00 pm"   the
chances that it was a list member on the other end were great i'm sure.

     so, i  yelled in the phone "hi!!!, yeah, we got tix, i can hear your
ticker guy talking, can you hear my ticket lady talking?  who are you???  are
you on the list?  well, my ticket lady didn't appreciate it, it confused her.
after i explained why i was yelling she got over it, although she wouldn't
ask ticket guy next to her the name of the other callers to see if i knew
them.  jeez its not like i was asking that much. :) so if that was you guys
on the line, at 10:01, hi.  thats all i wanted to say in the first place, see
ya in berkeley.

     oh, and i won't be arriving in a limosine.  when i tried to order the
"limo" service for fast, easy transportation to and from the show that she
offered, it was noooooo she said, that service was not available from
eugene... whuteverrrr.)

catherine

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          lilith fair @ deer creek in indy friday august 8th @ 4:30
pm........$28.50 pavillion/ $19.50 lawn....sarah mclachlan, indigo girls,
jewel, emmylou harris (a true musical giant), lisa loeb, etc...........
                                          hey, i've paid more than that to
see emmylou harris by herself ......in addition to her great solo albums you
can find her crowning achievement as a backup singer on the "grievous angel"
album by gram parsons.....this album is a true classic that influenced just
about everybody there after......
                                    oughta be a great day for music in
indy......see some of ya there???????  tickets on sale this saturday @
noon.......
                                 brian

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i got section 203 tickets too.

an informal survey of those who have posted to this list shows that all
but two people bought tickets in section 203 for the lilith fair in
chicago. times range from 12:03 p.m. to 12:22 p.m. for those who ended up
in section 203. hands down, it's the unofficial ig list section!

eddie

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subject:      burn fire burn...!

now, i for one, do not know the technical definition of the word "flame"
since it seems to be something very very scary which i have never experienced
before but i find it highly ironic that abagail writes
>>by mixing misconstrued facts with a lot of fiction, you've way overstepped
the bounds of privacy and sharing information that is way not funny.>>

then uses ani's quote
"taken out of context i must seem so strange."

nuff said

celeste

ps tigger i still love ya!!

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subject:      argh

well, with only two short days remaining to the concert at msg, i am filled
with such joy and anticipation.  but, now my angry tonsils are trying to
sabatoge me.  i can barely talk much less sing along with my favorite duo of
soulful music.  :(

well, i still wouldn't miss them for anything in the world, so i am just
going to have to sit there and enjoy the rapture that is listening to them.
hey, it's a bittersweet world!

xo,
sarah

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subject:      hartford rocked!!!! : my review, my ponderings,
              and my new pick. =)

oh, oh, oh, oh . . . . i am reeling!  i am still on such a high from last
night's hartford show.  i mean, serious buzzing!

yesterday was my 15th birthday, and i can't think of a better way to spend
your 15th b-day than at an indigo girls show.  i've had such a hard past
year, this really has given me a sense of it all being behind me. ("got my ig
and i was freee!  and i went to hartford . . .")

out came a&e, and as they played the opening chord for mystery i was floating
. . . it's so odd for me (this was my first concert, ig or otherwise) because
these voices that i've only heard from a tape deck are suddenly translated
into real, living and breathing people.  then they did soy, which rocked, but
it still isn't one of my favorites.  get out the map was great and i sang and
danced . . . then they did three hits and i was soooooo excited because i
just absolutely love that song.  it was then i started to loosen up, and by
the end of it's alright i was bouncing off the walls, not believing it was
real.  i loved hey kind friend, and then lc was cool because everyone knew
the words; not just me and the cool 7th row woman who danced for almost every
song . . .

anyway, to get to me.  my goal of the evening was to get a guitar pick.  i
spent hours (and about $12) making a 36" x 48" sign that read "can i please
have a pick?"  when we got there, though, we realized it was dark in there.
we were tenth row, and just far enough back that the sign could be
impossible to read.  so after ulali left, i went up to a security guy to ask
if he'd let me talk to a guitar tech about getting a pick. he said something
along the lines of "they only give picks to the people they want to have
them.  sit down."  defeated, i returned to my seat.  as the concert wore on,
it seemed like there were no oppertunities at all to hold up the sign.  they
weren't stoping to 'banter' at all.  highly structured.  but then between
like caramia and ttbt (i think . . . i can't remember)  these people way up
front held up a sign and emily stoped to comment.  the moment was here.  i
raised my sign and saw emily look over and read it.  she said (i think)
"someone back there wants a pick?  ah, y'all are as sweet as hell.  come up
here and i'll give you one." oh mis digas!  i ran up to the stage so
enthusiasticly that this security guy thought i was going to try to get up on
it.  he kept me a good 8 feet away.  and then i looked at emily, and she
looked at me, and then (underhand) tossed the pick to me.  well, actually,
over my head and to the left.  i picked it up and blew them a kiss and then
couldn't find my row and it was so embarassing . . . but i got a pick!  a
slightly worn from use, heavy, yellow, indigo girls, emily sweated on pick!
yey me! =)

thank you for letting me share my moment.  i could go on about when we all
got to rush the stage, and durring galileo when i shouted at the top of my
lungs "thank you!" after the appropriate line (i swear emily turned and
smiled at me then.  who knows . . .)  or that i though dgtgag was at it's
best.  or that i now love scooter boys. or my mother gettin' down to bmhawk,
or the girl who jumped on stage, or the people holding up the "sara lee kicks
bass!" sign . . .

or i could shut up and do my homework.

hmmm.

-elizabeth

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subject:      yahoo! ig tickets for 7/5&6

hello to any of you who were standing in line at the cal performances ticket
office in berkeley this morning. i arrived at 8:30 and there were already
about 30 people ahead of me. the folks waiting for tickets were great, and we
spent a nice hour and a half sipping lattes and reading the sunday paper. my
partner and i were able to purchase 10 general admission for 7/5, and got
some of the last reserved seats for 7/6. not great seats, unfortunately, but
as we were leaving the office at 10:30 it was announced that reserved seats
for both dates were sold out, so i'm glad we were able to get what they had.
i spoke to the ticket office manager, who estimates that this concert will
sell out by tuesday, so if you are planning to go to the berkeley concert,
act soon. again, all reserved seating is sold out.
hope to meet some of you.....

karen

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hey all--

i also got through to ticketmaster at about 12:05 and am in section 204
"pavillion" -- whatever that means?!  when i asked the seller about our seat
numbers, he said "i don't have access to that information."  okay...so we
will be in reserved seats, won't we?  the tickets were $28 each.

just thought i'd share my experience...if anyone could respond to my
questions, i'd appreciate it!  thanks!

cheryl
cheryl@discover-net.net


at 03:02 pm 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote:
>on sat, 31 may 1997, lawyerman wrote:
>> also, was anyone able to get first tier reserved seats (i.e. section
>> numbers in the 100's) besides dwayne jarrell who has already posted? if
>> so, what time did you get them?
>
>my friend got through at about 12:03 and we are in the second tier,
>section 203. not great. i thought it was because we wanted three seats
>together, and it is always more difficult to get good seats with three
>than two. my tickets were also the same price you quoted. there wasn't
>much difference in price between the pavilion seats and the lawn seats --
>lawn seats were $21.
>

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subject:      retraction

i just want to apologize for the article.  i thought it was funny and a bunch
of others did too but i guess some people didn't.  i was just playing.

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygoopg@aol.com)
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hi all,
i was wondering if you all would consider the following acceptable on
the list:

i am a singer/songwriter. right now i have a new album out of my live,
acoustic material. (it's sort of a limited edition, since i have one of
those fully-produced studio albums due out in september). i have never
released any of my acoustic material before, and i would really like
feedback. so my proposal is that i post an offer to give a free cassette
to 5 people, in exchange for their review of it on this list. is that
appropriate, or is it too far off from ig? please let me know! :-)

thanks,
suzanne

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hi everyone!

i had planned to arrive at the zellerbach hall ticket office by 9 this
morning, but i did not make it until 9:40.   there were already several
dozen people in line, but we were all chatting and visiting and having fun
while we waited. i kept wondering whether other list people were in line
with me, but i did not have a chance to ask. (if any of you saw a guy with
dark hair riding around in an electric wheelchair with a darwin fish on the
back, that was me....;))

it was a fairly mellow line, and i actually ran into several people i had
not seen in years.   while some folks had complaints about the way ticket
sales were being handled, i think most of us were happy to be in such a fun
group, if only for a little while. we were also overjoyed that the ticket
office on the cal campus does not assess service charges on any ticket
transaction. this meant that two general admission seats cost 25 dollars
each. that's it. no tax, no handling, no bogus "convenience fee." when we
heard that bass had  a lock on much of the reserved seating, i am sure some
were tempted to go elsewhere, until we heard that they were charging a
per-ticket additional fee of $7. 50. that made us stay put for sure!

so, i will be at the sun. afternoon show at the greek; any interest in a
list gathering either before or after the show?

let me know...

danny

dkodmur@earthlink.net


p.s. memo to bay area music fans: don't buy greek theater tickets anywhere
but on the berkeley campus!

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yes, amy is the person perched on the window sill.
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on thu, 29 may 1997 sea8aggie@aol.com wrote:

> okay.  yes, ig plays in the bar/club where whoopi's character works, but i
> could have sworn that amy is the gal leaning against the window sill near the
> end of the movie when whoopi's character and the woman she loves are singing
> to each other.  so when y'all get a chance to ffwd one day, let me know if
> i'm confused.
>
> is there an ig-anonymous meeting around here? <smirk>
>
> cheers,
>
> amy
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subject:      lfair in chicago

i was out most of the day and didn't call ticketmaster until about 5pm.  i
was offered lawn or obstructed view.  i took the obstructed view because i
figured if its raining we'll be happy for the roof!!!  does anyone have any
idea where these seats will be???

aileen

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subject:      deadline approaching

yes the deadline is approaching for getting your radio station's email
address to me, in order for it to be included in the organized email
request extravaganza.   that deadline is monday 6-2-97 at 6 pm central
time.

don't just assume that someone has already sent in the address for your
station.
(so far the response is small).  so if you would like your station
emailed, send me their addresses.  the post will be made to the list
telling everyone the details of when to send the email.

thanks-
derek

dlmsduncan@juno.com

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reply-to:     katherine roberts <kater@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
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hey there!

for those of you interested in seat locations for various concert venues
(i.e. the world music theatre) there are charts for most major u.s. music
theatres at http://www.tickettrader.com/charts.html

take care,
kate
(who got section 205 at 12:10. anyone else going to the show in minneapolis??)

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reply-to:     suzanne glass <suzanneglass@geocities.com>
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hi,
well, since response seems to be overwhelmingly favorable, i will send a
copy of my new cassette to the first 5 people who reply to this message
who give their mailing address and agree to write a review. then, i will
also extend a special offer to the list if someone wants to buy the
cassette: normal price would be $6 plus postage. to anyone on the list,
i'll take $5 and include the postage.
thanks, you guys are great!
suzanne

http://www.geocities.com/~suzanneglass

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wow, you guys are fast! :-) the 5 tapes are taken, thanks to everyone!
suzanne

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hi,
okay, how about i send a free poster to those of you who already mailed
but didn't make the first 5? (i feel guilty ;-p ). if you have already
mailed me with your address, i'll send you a poster. if you made the
first 5, you will have received a private e-mail from me already.
thanks,
suzanne

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subject:      4 msg tix for sale

my friend has 4 msg tickets that she can't use.  they are section 53, row m.

she just wants face value so if anyone is interested please e-mail me.

carlisle

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a bunch of my friends from school want to go, but didn't get tickets yet.
does nayone know if they are sold out?

sari

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well, there's always retrospect to light a clearer path. every five years
or so, i look back on my life and i have a good laugh.
                -indigo girls

sari laufer
northwestern university
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      why do we hurtle ourselves through every inch of time and space?

i thought some people might be amused by the following response i got from the
internet oracle (about whom you can learn everything by sending a message
with the subject line "help" to <oracle@cs.indiana.edu>.)

forwarded message:
> from oracle@cs.indiana.edu  sun jun  1 20:55:24 1997
> date: sun, 1 jun 1997 19:55:18 -0500 (est)
>
> the internet oracle has pondered your question deeply.
> your question was:
>
> > oracle most handsome,
> > why do we hurtle ourselves through every inch of time and space?
>
> and in response, thus spake the oracle:
>
> } because if we didn't, we'd fall off the earth.
> }
> } --------
> } you owe the oracle a pair of crampons
>


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;;"let the woman's hand, opening / curtains, and the woman, rising, / be a new
;;theorem, solid and given, / the beginning of an elegant / and irrefutable
;;proof."--anne haines | http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/ ;;no comment

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does anyone know what the line up is for the lilith fair at great woods, ma
?

it appears to change as the fair moves across the us.  i've heard the ig
and shawn colvin are playing at some venues.  anyone have the word on this?

thanks!  five more days until indigo girls at great woods!

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              1, 97 10:10 pm

for all your lilith-fair-oriented needs, check out <http://www.lilithfair.com>.
after all, why bother waiting for a response from the list when you can get
the information instantly on the web? *grin*
kirsten

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;;theorem, solid and given, / the beginning of an elegant / and irrefutable
;;proof."--anne haines | http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/ ;;no comment

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in a message dated 97-05-27 07:13:17 edt, brunsmeyer@sprintmail.com writes:

<< still busying myself with collecting tickets for the west coast run and
i'm lacking in a few areas.  first question is when on earth is the
second la greek show going on sale(july 3rd)  has anyone checked
lately??  and i too need the number to call bass on june 1st and get the
berkely tix. will both shows go onsale at the same time? >>


i called ticketmonster yesterday regarding the july 3rd show in la and they
still have no info on it!  in fact, there were still seats available for the
show on july 2nd!  eek!

i called bass this morning to get my berkely ticktets and after about 45
minutes i finally got through, though i did have to hold for about 15 more
minutes!  anyway, they told me the reserved seating was "currently
unavailable" for both days.  i asked the guy what that meant, and he said the
"promoter" may put more reserved on sale at a later date.  i decided to go
ahead and get the general admission...didn't wanna miss the boat incase they
don't put any more on sale.  could be worth checking into later on though.
:)  i am pretty excited about the show!!!!

hope to meet some of you there!

jan

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subject:      outvoice mailing list - sigc (kinda long)

i wanted to share the following information.  i think some of you on this
list would be
interested in it.  you will see "shaming of the sun" and "shame on you" are
showing up on their charts.  even better, you can add your vote by following
the directions at the bottom!!


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top 10 tracks:

1.  political asshole - pansy division+ (2nd week at #1)
2.  dance song '97 - sleater-kinney+
3.  your woman - white town+
4.  don't say your love is killing me - erasure~
5.  rapture - erasure+
6.  shame on you - indigo girls~
7.  in my arms - erasure~
8.  manada - pansy division+
9.  words and guitar - sleater-kinney*
10. when i think of laura nyro - jane siberry~

~ indicates votes holding steady

top 10 albums:

1.  dig me out - sleater-kinney+ (3rd week at #1)
2.  cowboy - erasure+
3.  queer to the core (vinyl ep) - pansy division~
4.  shaming of the sun - indigo girls+
5.  manada (vinyl ep) - pansy division+
6.  starjob - the frogs~
7.  bilingual - pet shop boys~
8.  drawn to the deep end - gene**
9.  stoosh - skunk anansie**
10. time and love: the music of laura nyro - various artists<

+ indicates gaining votes

now you can send your votes each week to outvoice-votes@queernet.org.  the
deadline is saturday by midnight (pacific time).  if your vote arrives
sunday it will be counted towards the next week's countdown.  a list of
your favorite tracks and albums is acceptable... anywhere from one to a top
ten list.  thanx!!

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reply-to:     john griffin <turtle@theatre12.theatre.sunysb.edu>
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i'm semi new on the list and i thought i should introduce myself. my name
is jon griffin but just about everyone calls me "turtle". i had the
misfortune of being completely oblivious to the fact that the ig were
coming out with a new albumn (last time i knew way in advance and waited
anxiously for the long angonizing time it took to arrive in stores). two
weeks ago i caught the very end of "shame on you" and the announcement
"that last song by the ig on their new albumn etc etc...". which was kind
of a miracle because the ig don't get a terrible amount of airplay on long
island (must have been a college radio station).another consequence is
that i probably won't get to see them at msg unless i go into the city on
the off chance i can get scalp tix (something i would normally consider
doing). i might go to one of the lilith concerts. so i ran out and bought
the cd as soon as i knew. unfortunately this one on the way to a family
gathering at my grandmothers house, with family members who are all into
heavy metal. i forced them to listen to it anyway :) i didnt really get to
hear it til i got home though. i was hoping it wasn't too late to catch
some of the lyric discussion on the list. i'd like to hear interpretations
or inside scoops on what a&e said inspired their tracks on this albumn.

anyway more about me. i'm a tall skinny white guy with glasses, blue eyes,
and long blonde hair. right now i have a nasty sunburn so i'm more a
bright red than my usual pale self :) i recently graduated from college,
suny at stony brook, with a ba in multidisciplinary studies,
concentrations in technology in the arts, human reproduction, and
philospophy. actually i didn't technically graduate because i still have
an incomplete, but i went to commencement and so i consider myself
basically done with school. i just got a job doing graphic design for a
printing company- designing club passes, business cards, logos, etc. i was
previously trapped with my parents but am making the bold leap into
independence in the next two weeks (yay!). i'll probably go to grad school
eventually but i'm a bit over saturated on the academic thing right now
and yearning for independence and money. it's nice to be working the week
so i don't miss out on cool festivals and the pride parade. i'll be at
clearwater this summer and possibly falcon ridge, volunteering. my
interests include science fiction, role playing, turtles, metaphysics,
liberal politics ecology and human rights, art, computers (mac), acting
dancing and technical theatre (did some really cool versions of beckett
short plays at our school using computer technology!), and science.

i was on this list aroudn the time swamp ophelia came out but had to leave
because i had a lame accoutn which couldn't handle lots of messages. i was
basically a lurker and don't think i ever introd myself; i hope to remedy
that :) do any other list member live near port jefferson (long island new
york) or plan to go to clearwater or falcon ridge this summer?

thanks y'all
turtle

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subject:      info -please

could you please help me find info about the summer tour?  we live near
chicago, and i've heard rumors.... unfortunately as a teacher and grad
student, i don't have time to check the papers/radio regularly... please
help.  thanks a ton

sara

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from:         kira stackhouse <crandigo1@aol.com>
subject:      mann review

hi,
     i went to the mann concert on friday.  it was amazing.  it was also my
first ig concert... i loved it.  what was surprising to me was that the girls
didn't really have too much to say, i mean they sang 2 hours of music
straight through.  it was great.  are they always that quiet??  in the
beginning emily said, "i keep forgeting how big this place is," then they
went right into "secure yourself."  if anyone saw the big super stretch limo,
it was mine.  5 of my friends and i went down in it.  we were stuck in
traffic for an hour and a half in the parking lot.  a bunch of people thought
we were the girls and were waving and whatnot.  the limo driver, bob, even
had a jar of grey poupon, oh it was funny.  one girl even got her pic taken
with it.  ha ha!! well just thought i'd share.  take care!!

kira.

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subject:      nigc wendy bucklew - asleep in the swing - great!
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hi folks,
  back on 5-22 lorene machado posted an offer for wendy bucklew's asleep
in the swing cd for $17.00 and i ordered one. wow, i really, really like
it! just thought i'd let you know.
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from:         dana rider <danaday104@aol.com>
subject:      ig at wolf-trap va

the indigo girls are my favorite group by far. however their show on the 28th
of may seemed a little off. the mix was really bad, and the band didnt always
work together. at one point amys timing was so off during "bury my heart.."
that i though she was going to stop completely and have the group play
something else. if i didnt love their music and message and envy their talent
so much, i'd have to say it was the worst performance i've ever seen. i'm
just hoping it was an off night and the girls are pulling it together alot
better at the other shows.

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any of you new york area indigoheads know the dates/lineup for the
clearwater festival?

sari

--
well, there's always retrospect to light a clearer path. every five years
or so, i look back on my life and i have a good laugh.
                -indigo girls

sari laufer
northwestern university
s-laufer@nwu.edu
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from:         monique barbanson <mhb@entelechy.com>
organization: entelechy media designs
subject:      re: berkeley show tickets
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hi daniel,

i have to agree with other folks that waiting in line at zellerbach
hall turned out to be quite fun. i had called last week to get the
scoop on tickets sales and we actually had the same chance of getting
the good seats as any other bass outlet. the zellerbach ticket office
is connected to bass just like other outlets is what they told me.

have fun at the shows,

monique

daniel kodmur wrote:
>
>  hi everyone!
>
> i had planned to arrive at the zellerbach hall ticket office by 9 this
> morning, but i did not make it until 9:40.   there were already several
> dozen people in line, but we were all chatting and visiting and having fun
> while we waited. i kept wondering whether other list people were in line
> with me, but i did not have a chance to ask. (if any of you saw a guy with
> dark hair riding around in an electric wheelchair with a darwin fish on the
> back, that was me....;))
>
> it was a fairly mellow line, and i actually ran into several people i had
> not seen in years.   while some folks had complaints about the way ticket
> sales were being handled, i think most of us were happy to be in such a fun
> group, if only for a little while. we were also overjoyed that the ticket
> office on the cal campus does not assess service charges on any ticket
> transaction. this meant that two general admission seats cost 25 dollars
> each. that's it. no tax, no handling, no bogus "convenience fee." when we
> heard that bass had  a lock on much of the reserved seating, i am sure some
> were tempted to go elsewhere, until we heard that they were charging a
> per-ticket additional fee of $7. 50. that made us stay put for sure!
>
> so, i will be at the sun. afternoon show at the greek; any interest in a
> list gathering either before or after the show?
>
> let me know...
>
> danny
>
> dkodmur@earthlink.net
>
> p.s. memo to bay area music fans: don't buy greek theater tickets anywhere
> but on the berkeley campus!
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reply-to:     da chickenman <tonyfrapsiv@earthlink.net>
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subject:      boot offer: grand emporium, kcmo 7-18-89
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hey kind friends!

        here's that boot offer that i've been promising (all thanks to the
ig goddess carolyn spidle :)

        offer:  the grand emporium, kansas city, missouri 7-18-89 - 90 mins.

side a: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, cold as ice,
prince of darkness, summertime, no way to treat a friend, center stage, make
it easier

side b: blood and fire, girl with the weight of the world in her hands, land
of cannan, kid fears, get together, all along the watchtower

        this offer will be extended to the first 15 people who successfully
answer the (5) trivia questions below.  five of those spaces will be
reserved for those on "digest" format.  please indicate in your response if
you are *indeed* on digest.  only one try per person this time.

(1)     according to amy, who was the line "it's 3am and it's good company"
written         about?

(2)     what type of instrument does emily play on hey kind friend?

(3)     what do the numbers 115 and 17 refer to in shed your skin?

(4)     what two songs does emily play banjo on from the shaming of the sun
album?

(5)     approximately how many beers did amy consume while writing reunion?
        a) none
        b) 1-5
        c) 6-12
        d) over 12 beers

good luck! :)

i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily              s
o

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date:         sun, 1 jun 1997 23:07:30 -0500
reply-to:     tracy - back home with her mountain <trace@wolfenet.com>
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              vancouver in mid june?
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i know i know.. i am sorry, total nigc except that we are trying to find a
good indigo name for him...

        if anyone is flying in mid-june (like after 20 june) from winnipeg to
vancouver bc please contact me as we are trying to find someone for our new
puppy to fly "with", and thus save a few bucks in shipping.  the breeder
will be dropping him off at the airport and checking him in, and i will be
picking him up in vancouver as soon as he lands.  thus - you would have to
do nothing as it is also a direct flight.  worth a try, thanks!

flamer if you got this far you ignored my warning and i apologize and will
post either nothing or only igc for the next 2 weeks.

tracy, jeni, and a very cute puppy soon to be here

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i'm sorry if this is upsetting. it upsets me too. han

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: fri, 30 may 1997 18:52:31 -0400 (edt)
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subject: [allstarmag] allstar news 05-30-97

                allstar daily music news

                may 30, 1997

                http://www.allstarmag.com

                edited by carrie borzillo

jeff buckley missing, presumed dead

  jeff buckley is still missing and has been presumed dead by the
memphis police department, who have been searching for the singer
in the mississippi river since thursday (may 30) night. buckley, who
was in memphis doing pre-production for his next columbia album,
was last seen swimming while with a companion in a marina in the mud
island harbor
area of the mississippi river in memphis, according to lt. maples of
the memphis police department.
  "at this time his body has not surfaced and he is presumed dead, but
we are still searching," says maples [at press time, however, the
memphis police department would not officially say that he was presumed
dead. "we're dragging the river and
have scuba divers and a rescue team out. a missing person report
was filed by his companion, who said they were playing guitar,
singing, and listening to the radio when jeff decided to go into the
river, fully clothed. he was up to his waist, singing still, when a
boat came by and caused waves in the river. the companion asked him to
come back on the bank. there were no signs of struggle at the time.
the companion went back to the bank to move the radio so it didn't
get wet from the waves and when he turned around jeff was no
longer visible. he searched the river for 10 minutes before calling
the police around 9:30 or 10 p.m. [thursday] night."
  maples says that the river has a strong undertow and current and
that buckley could've traveled some distance. "if he had gone further
down and had gotten out, he would've contacted someone. but no
one's heard from him," says maples.
  buckley began pre-production on the follow-up to his critically
acclaimed debut album grace  in memphis on may 29. the
actual recording is slated to begin june 30 with buckley co-producing
the set with andy wallace, who also produced grace. buckley is
working with veteran band members mike tighe (guitar), mick
grondahl (bass), and new drummer parker kindred. the not- yet-
titled album is slated for an early 1998 release.

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subject:      good quotes

(a copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups:
alt.music.indigo-girls)

i have to make a little fact page about myself as a counselor for a peer
event here at school for next year's freshman. i have an empty space just
waiting for an ig quote and cannot find that one that just jumps out at
me. any suggestions?

sari

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sari laufer
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http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~srl542
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subject:      tigger's dream & a bootleg of it

ok y'all, i had an igc dream last night, on the scale of one of those private
concert deals.  it was really cool because i was going to a concert and it
was sold out, and i was the only person who showed up, so a & e did the whole
concert just for me it was a very very cool dream.  but anyway here's the
good part:  i woke up with a complete memory of the full setlist.  and i made
a boot of it.  here's the setlist:

side a:

wood song
reunion  (thanks to all those who helped me find this)
american tune
never stop
chickenman (complete with soc)
mona lisas and mad hatters
ballad of squeaky fromme
land of canaan

side b:

scooter boys
kid fears
bury my heart at wounded knee
i wanna be your lover
danny's song
father & son
it's alright
falling star
get together
lifeblood

(of course on some of these it's kind of hard to imagine just li'l ole me
making all that noise..... <grin>)
if anybody wants this boot, it's up for grabs.  i'll tree, trade or do
blanks, whatever y'all want if you want.  i tried to get good quality and
interesting soundbites, plus chickenman even has an soc.  and so if anyone
wants it email me.

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygoopg@aol.com)
   member - ssim yknib naf bulc
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'cause i'm gay..." - e. saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think we were on the same boat back in 1694" -
a. ray
"mothers tell your children/be quick you must be strong/life is full of
wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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hi,

somebody had a sig that had the phrase "all things indigo". i remember
reading it. the entire sig was almost like tigger's. it was: "peace,
love and all things indigo", i think. does this seem familiar? i want to
find the owner of this sig. i need to ask a question.

i have a reason. please privately e-mail me.

thanks, leticia
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from:         camille kearl <sasscambo@msn.com>
subject:      enlighten me . . . or, co, ut, mn

hey there kind friends--help me out here :-)

i have a few questions regarding dates--i have seen conflicting info.
regarding the utah show -- can anyone confirm if the concert is on the 15th of
july or the 16th????  do we know when tickets go on sale?

second--if the show in utah is indeed on the 16th is it possible to make it to
red rocks and have a decent place in line for the 17th???  (howdy are ya
saving me a place in line :-) of course i would not cut--irritates the hell
out of me)  if this is an insane idea then i may have 4 tickets to sell for
the show on the 17th. :-(  anyone up for trading the 17th for the 18th??

finally--does anyone have 2 tickets to the july 9th show in oregon--this show
at the state park is sold out right???  anyone have the number for this venue?
can i still get tickets for the 10th???  please e-mail me privately with info.

if you have two extra tickets for the 9th i have some great boots i can throw
in for your time and effort :-)

yes, i want to be a bum for the summer and just travel around and see a few ig
shows.  it would be great to meet some of you!

i am graduating with my masters degree on saturday and i am ready to play and
enjoy a carefree summer full of sweet harmonies!

happy concert going and congrats to all those graduating.

i am also planning on going to the lilith tour in shakopee, mn so i want to
meet all of you mudducks out there in cyberspace.  lisa nordeen, dana, deb
from milwaukee--will y'all be there?

ending this rambling for now . . .

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subject:      saratoga

anyone got any ideas on who the opening group is? first concert in eons....do
you get there early? don't want to miss anything!

appreciate a response, carol

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the guest acts include michelle malone and a national entertainer to be
announced. . .

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subject:      welcome me ad...

i recently took a road trip from los angeles to
san francisco and on the way back to la, i
noticed an interesting billboard.

somewhere between the cities of gilroy
and santa barbara i saw a billboard advertising
an upcoming mcdonalds.  the sign said "welcome"
and the m was the mcdonalds logo.

i wonder if the person who wrote it was an ig fan!

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hi...

was wondering, does anyone know what kind of tix are left for the
blossom concert on 6-12?  i'm thinking of getting some, but it is like
a 3 hour drive from dayton and i'm wondering if the tix i could get would
be worth the drive, esp since i have 2ond row for fraze the following
night.  any info would be great.

thanks,
amy k.

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subject:      flatpicking/crosspicking (nigc)

looking for suggestions on any good books or cds for a beginning flatpicker/
crosspicker. i've been practicing with ghost to crosspick, can anyone suggest
other songs from ig or related artists that would make good practice material?
tx,

de

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i've got 1 ticket to sell for the saturday 7/12 show at the pier in
seattle. selling for $25 --

please email if interested / thanks.

mike madin
madin@u.washington.edu

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subject:      great woods 13th row available

hey y'all,

i just got word this morning that two of my friends will not be able to
make it to this friday's ig concert at great woods.  the tickets are
for section 3, row q, seats 9 and 10, which is the 13th row stage right
(amy's side).  there is a seating chart on the great woods web site at
http://www.greatwoods.com/seat.html or
http://www.greatwoods.com/gwmap2.gif for a detailed chart if you want
to see how great these seats are.  we may even be seen on the
pay-per-view broadcast, because i'm making a long banner for us to hold
up.  the price is $67.00 for the pair, or $33.50 each, which is exactly
what i paid.  please let me know asap if you're interested.

peace and indigo dreams,
fran e.

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subject:      mann show and amy w/d

<<in a message dated 97-06-02 00:26:14 edt, crandigo1@aol.com writes:

      i went to the mann concert on friday.  what was surprising to me was
that the girls didn't really have too much to say, i mean they sang 2 hours
of music
straight through.  it was great.  are they always that quiet??  in the
beginning emily said, "i keep forgeting how big this place is," >>

i was surprised at how untalkative they were, but even more surprised at
emily's comment... i had just been thinking how nice and small the mann is
(compared to other venues i.e. wolf trap, msg).  i even hung outside the
gates in the back earlier during their sound check and the sound was awesome
and the view pretty okay from even way back there.

and, having always been an *emily* person, i am now having amy withdrawls
after seeing her on this tour.  she rocks!  she kept smiling and dancing and
waving her hands at the mann and i fell for it all.  it helps that i love her
new songs the best and just have to keep hoping emily will play winthrop
(what are the odds?).  go amy!

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subject:      pine knob list meeting

pine knobers:
a few of you have expressed an interest to have the pre show list
meet in the picnic area at pine knob.....what does everyone else
think??  it will be convenient to be right at the venue...but then
everyone will have to bring there own food and beverage instead of
just ordering some in a restaurant...what do you think??  i am
getting some info from pine snob about where the area is now..because
every year they seem to be renovating and i dont know if the area is
still outside of the actual theatre or if it is inside (because once
you enter, you cant leave and come back in) so that may pose a
problem for those bringing coolers to the meet, but sitting in the
pavilion..you wouldnt be able to put them back in your cars.....
another idea was to just have a "tailgate" meeting.........i will
post more details as i get them....let me know what ya think..

forever indigo
cathy

"....nobody gets a lifetime rehearsal, as specks of dust we're
universal.."  e.saliers

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i can't really do justice to this show - it was great, i had spectacular
seats, i had a wonderful time meeting people before the show, i met jen
from ulali and they remembered me from 1.5 years ago when noone knew about
them and they played portland and jen tried to get me backstage but amy was
busy and emily flew down to atlanta...not really a big deal - i even will
forgive the police guy who thought i was nuts (until jen saw me and called
them off -- and deb o'donahue seemingly became my public defender) it was
not a big deal -- infact jen of ulali had some choice words about security
but i told her "wait to you see great woods"
but - i think i met chris (guinione) as i was waiting -- and i think i
remember the girls who gave jwen their tickets to be autographed -- that
was really cool.

musical highpoints:
opening w/ mystery- wow!
caramia -- i can't understand how one can sit through this song - i think
it will become one of those "it cant be explained if you don't do it"
things. one other listee understands - i wont name names.....
hey kind friend - they have developed this so much it is amazing -- i love
it even more now!
dgtgag - seemed more slower than the album. cool.
shed your skin - wonderful.
they seemed more on than i had thought i would have seen them -- i think
the songfs performed as a duo and as a band cannot be compared - i like
each for very different reasons. i had so much fun at this show and i
absolutely love the venue -- five times better than great woods!!!  maybe
even ten.

one listee and myself started the rush to the stage during bury my heart --
amy and em smiled at both of us numerous times -- we were right in front of
them during ctf and kid fears.

i don't know if it was one of the best shows this tour but i had a bunch of
fun -- and it was worth the 15 hour r/t ride to see them!

mike r.
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subject:      pay-per-view length

i just realized something about the pay-per-view special on friday. it
won't fit on a standard vhs t120 tape. it is 3 hours long and the t120
only record 2 hours of video on the standard speed. so if you are planning
on record recording it, you need to either set your tape recorder to
extended play, are get a t180 tape.  maxell does not make an 180 min tape,
but tdk has an e-hg tape that is 180 minutes.  of course you could but
the concert on two tapes with an hour and a half on each tape.

for those people wanting me to tape a copy of the concert for them, please
send a t180 vhs tape, or a note letting me know if you want the concert
taped on the ep speed. if you have already sent a t120 tape but would like
the concert taped on a t180, just email me, and i will buy you a t180 and
keep your t120 in exchange. i hope this has been informative.

trant

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another ticket is available -- section 3 (amy side :-), row r, mid-row (i
can't remember my exact seats at this moment - they're in the low teens,
though) - a friend forgot (!) that she had a graduation event friday night,
and can't go - cost is about $33 (i don't have all the info. with me - i
just found out!) come and sit with a whole bunch of boston-area ig list
peoples - we're gonna have fun!

i *may* have a taker on the ticket, but if you're interested let me know and
i'll let you know as soon as i hear from her.

we're gonna be on tv!  and we're gonna have a great tailgate party before
the concert!  and they're playing the next day at pride ... this is gonna be
a good weekend!! :-)

joan

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                *actual new information -- please read *

so i think joni and i have gotten our act together and here's our
status report.


caravan: right now its joni and i.  we could use a few more folks =)

the straw poll: we are expecting somewhere between 25-35 people
                 to be there.  there is still time to make your
                 intention known!  mail me (cmbecker@space.mit.edu)
                 or joni (jcyr@mit.edu) to rsvp.  the more information
                 we have, the more likely that we'll have enough food and
                 space.  its an open house thing after all. =)

camp stoves: at the moment we only have jan's very kind offer and it looks
                unlikely we're going to get more.  the menu has been
                suggested acordingly.

identification: joni is working on a method (thanks to everyone for the
                        ideas) and will post about it soon.

which brings us to the *the potluck*

* given the lack of cooking resources, we are focusing on "stuff good
cold" or stuff you can keep hot without a heat source -- you know,
basic picnic stuff.

* we are asking everyone to bring one item per person in their party
(you and a guest, two things).

* please make/buy enough of each dish to feed six (not stuffing them,
but enough chips that 6 people would have sufficient doritos =)).

* please bring whatever containers and utensils you will need to serve.
joni and i will take care of the basics like plates, forks, glasses,
and garbage bags.

* a reminder.  please do not bring alcohol to the tailgate!  gw has
threatened to remove the entire group from the premises for a
violation in the party.  if you want a beer, by all means have it,
but elsewhere.  thanks for understanding....

* most importantly, please register what you intend to bring!  email
me your intended contribution and i'll let you know if its already
been spoken for.  we want to avoid 15 plates of brownies and 60 liters
of diet coke. =) it will be first email, first claimed on the list.
that address again -- cmbecker@space.mit.edu -- or just reply to this
message.  oh, also, tell me how many people you expect in your party.
it doesn't have to be the last word -- we aren't a catering company
(or are we joni?).

* a rough list of stuff is below, feel free to come up with something
else if you can think of something that doesn't quite fit.


* finally, get ready to rock -- its gonna be a great night!  we're
looking forward to seeing everyone!

                        -- chris and joni

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        hors d'ourve stuff (6 ppl):

                -- chips (2 ppl)
                -- vegi platters (2 ppl)
                -- wildcard (2 ppl)

        main course stuff (7 ppl):

                -- whatever, but no more than two of the same.
                -- picnic fare (kfc, egg salad, pizza, other stuff
                        good cold)

        side dish stuff (5 ppl):

                -- whatever, but no more than two of the same.
                -- picnic fare (potato salad, fruit salad, plain old fruit)

        dessert stuff (5 ppl):

                -- you get the idea...

        beverage stuff (7 ppl):

                -- mix and match, no alcohol *sigh*

        fun stuff (cards, footballs, frisbees, etc.) -- if you want it,
                bring it along. leave it in the car if we have too
                many.

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subject:      fess up - mann & hartford

c'mon ....

please tell me someone booted these shows ... i wish i had bothered to bring
my deck with me on my travels, but didn't !!!!! i was unfamiliar with the
meadows security-wise and last time i was at the mann they searched everyone
... this time we just walked right in !!!!!

regrets regrets regrets !!!!!

chris

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hey folks..
another ig wanderer needs list assistance. i should probably get these
tapes so i can help them myself, but i haven't yet. hope someone can help
her out!
we are good karma ones,
joe

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: sat, 31 may 1997 12:20:15 -0800
from: bbas@pacbell.net
to: fortunateones@moonbase.com
subject: i want i want!
resent-date: sat, 31 may 97 15:23:26 est
resent-from: <fortunateones@moonbase.com>
resent-to: fhamilto@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu

hi joe!
i love your pages, they are incredible, it is so cool to find unending
links to indigo girls, i'm overwhelmed by the proliferation of stuff!
i am in desperate need of amy's solo album, "color me grey," and if
you could tell me where/how i can find it, buy it, get it, i would be
so appreciative...the lyrics really call out to me more so than any
other album, but i've never heard the songs! i hope you can help me.

sincerely,

liane baskin
bbas@pacbell.net

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date:         mon, 2 jun 1997 11:52:52 -0400
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supposedly the shame on you video will premiere on vh-1 next friday at
2:00 p.m.   i'll let you know if i hear more.
we are fortunate ones,
joe

http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

p.s. i have to vastly expand my web site for an independent study. (and
two other classes..hehe..i love it when one project satisfies three
classes!) so anyway..i have to include java/database queries/forms etc..so
if anyone has any ideas for what they'd like to see...or pictures they'd
like me to put up..etc etc..i'd appreciate hearing from you. thanks!

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subject:      great woods 13th row tix sold

hi,

i've already gotten a few responses on these (y'all know who you are
:)), so the tickets are no longer available.  sorry i don't have more!

peace,
fran e.

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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      hartford, or, "why hello officer!" (igc)

hi kittens ;)

okay, my two cents on hartford. i personally was not thrilled with the show,
...i just felt like everything was off...the tuning, the sound tech (sully
wasn't really visible from my side of the stage but amy kept motioning to some
guy to up the volume, down the volume, etc. for many of the songs), the tuning,
the endings of songs...jerry's drums were way too loud imho and i had a really
hard time enjoying hkf because of his periodic "boom!" on that big drum.....

i thought amy was more into it than em but also she seemed (to me) disturbed at
all the "issues" on stage. i thought em was cuter than cute when she said "you
all are sweet as hell". i'd like to package that honeydrip and sell it in a
bottle for $100 an ounce, just a priceless moment! and i thought that it was
way cool that elizabeth got her birthday pick! :)

i dunno tho, maybe i wasn't all there. i was a little distracted for lots of
reasons, and i was amused/annoyed at little things, like the women behind us
that yelled "closer to fine! ",  alternating with the women in front of us that
yelled "romeo and juliet"!!  maragaret wisely suggested we pass out a concert
faq to folks to avoid their squeals from becoming a part of our bootlegs :)

one last note: i got pulled over doing 90 on 91 just outside of noho, and much
to my delight learned that one of massachusetts finest is *an indigo girls* fan
and thus, let me go. i didn't even have to cry or say i had diarrhea like i
usually do !!! here's to the folks in blue

xo, sus

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from:         cathy haslam <has@lam.sonnet.co.uk>
subject:      desperately seeking donna...(nigc)

donna

i am getting your mail but your messages are reaching me without showing your
address, so i can't reply. can you mail me again and put your email address in
the body of the text??

it may take me a day or so to check my messages as i'm in and out at the mo!

look forward to hearing from you and possibly meeting up this summer!

thanks cathy

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hey y'all, i don't usually comment on concerts, but after this one i feel
that irresistable urge to toss in my thoughts...

ulali amazed me even more here than at mt. holyoke, i felt bad that so
many people talked or just weren't there for them though.  and some poser
chic in front of me (who only yelled and danced for galileo and lc)
started making fun of them, and it took all i had to not boot her in the
head!  thankfully, she left.

the girls simply rocked out more than i have ever seen, and this was maybe
my 8th show.  they were all smiley and jammed on several of the new songs.
shed your skin was amazing, and it was great to see so many people
dancing.  i don't know how anyone could have sat through this show, the
energy was really intense.  but as a dancer i'm not big into sitting
anyway(:  caramia was intense a well, and blew me away with the full band.

the defining moment for me was dgtgag.  it was an intense-amy-orgasmic
experience!  amy really ripped into this one, and like through many of the
songs she layed into her guitar and did the jump up in the air and hit the
last chord thing.  i like it(:

sara and jerry and the new guitar guy (who plays a mean violin) were
great.  ulali rocked out with the ig as well.

some of the crowd bothered me through much of the show.  there were a
significant amount of drunk, stoned (many of them very young) people, and
when everyone rushed the stage during ctf it got scary.  there wasn't the
respect (for each other or the ig) that i am used to at shows.

over-all the show was a great experience for me, and i can't wait for
great woods!
*special thanks to deb for the ride home!*

happy day,
jennie


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subject:      great woods *14th* row taken
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sorry, folks, the ticket is taken - look for us on pay-per-view! :-)

now back to your regularly scheduled discussion list ...

joan


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                      -edgar watson howe (1853-1937)

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subject:      what's your favorite boot???
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hey all! :)

after being on the list for a couple of months and finally acquiring a
*decent* amount of ig boots from very generous listees, my favorite
definitely has to be "levees that break in my heart" because it's just sooo
simple and folky. that got me thinking- what's everyone else's favorite
boot?? and you can only choose one...no cheating, now. :)

therese :)

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i was just working on updating my tour web site so i called the ig hotline
to get the lastest news and they have ig playing tonight at the mercury
lounge in nyc. i've been out of town for a while and i've miss some email
so i'm confused:  is this the vh-1 thing or is this another show? i thought
the vh-1 taping was on the 4th but seeing how i have my email spread across
five computers i can't verify it. could somebody please fill me in? anyway,
if the vh-1 thing is indeed on the 4th those in nyc may want to check out
the mercury lounge tonight. if the vh-1 is tonight just ignore all the
babbling above.

also, in addition to the lf date in vancouver on august 23rd, there will be
a second vancouver date on the 24th at deer lake park. i believe the 24th
may be an ig only date because i can't see the whole tour moving to another
venue (then again stranger things have happened).

deb

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my finger tips and brain are not communicating very well as of late so let
me try this again...

in addition to the previously announced lf date in vancouver on aug 24th
(not the 23rd as i typed before) the ig hotline is listing a second
vancouver date for _august 25th_ at deer lake park.

sorry for the mess up!

deb

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on mon, 2 jun 1997, deb reiser wrote:

>i was just working on updating my tour web site so i called the ig hotline
>to get the lastest news and they have ig playing tonight at the mercury
>lounge in nyc. i've been out of town for a while and i've miss some email
>so i'm confused:  is this the vh-1 thing or is this another show? i thought
>the vh-1 taping was on the 4th but seeing how i have my email spread across
>five computers i can't verify it. could somebody please fill me in? anyway,
>if the vh-1 thing is indeed on the 4th those in nyc may want to check out
>the mercury lounge tonight. if the vh-1 is tonight just ignore all the
>babbling above.

the sony web site has this to say:

"indigo girls play a surprise set at new york city's mercury lounge
tonight, monday june 2nd!!!!. daemon records artist the lift opens."


betsy

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i want to be the girl with the most cake.
                    -courtney love
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ok, just so you all are perfectly clear about this, i just got off the
phone with one reel (they put on the pier shows).  the woman told me that
*none* of the pier shows are sold out.  they typically give a small block
of tickets to ticketmaster to sell, and they have sold out.  the larger
block of tickets are kept to be sold through the mail and on-line.  you can
get tickets on-line, or through the mail by printing out their order form
at  <http://www.onereel.org/>.  if this doesn't work or you don't have
internet access, you can call them at 622-5123, and they can fax or mail a
form to you to mail in.  this has to be done before june 14.

so,..... i think it's reel lame that these shows aren't sold out yet, and
am attributing it to this weird one reel/ticketmaster arrangement.  so get
the word out!!!!!  where are all the bumbershoot (another one reel
production, by the way) rabid fans???  incidentally, ani difranco plays the
pier on july 20, so you can order that one while your at it!  and don't
forget anne murray on july 18th;)

and regarding ig moments worth mentioning......my adorable gf and i were
out to dinner (at madison's cafe if it matters) and we heard eiiot!!!!  how
cool is that?  i thought it was the cd, but the waitress told us that it
was piped in from some service that escapes me now.  and then...... me and
(really, extra cute!!!) gf were grocery shopping (at pcc if you care) and
we heard, of all things, thin line!!!  and this wasn't musak either.
and.... i got two lilith fair tickets for vancouver bc, at the local record
store/ticketmaster outlet!  west seattle rocks!!  now if we can only find a
way to see the ppv special:( and find out where deer lake park is!

caio!
betsy

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                    -courtney love
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subject:      re: guitar advice (nigc)

my two cents on guitars.  while i'll admit i don't know anything about
washburns, the first good, not great, guitar i owned for under $500 was a
seagull.  they are canadian made, no frills but very playable with great
action, warm tone and they stay in tune.  it was an excellent first real
guitar for me.  mine still sits in a stand ready for whenever i want to pick
up a guitar right now.  one other point when just starting out...rent one.  a
friend did this for me as a birthday gift and i haven't stopped yet.

oh and when you begin to move up to a better guitar i think tayors have
martins beat hands down.  i've played both and the taylors on the whole were
brighter and more playable out of the box so to speak.   while the older
martins are wonderful, its easier, and many times cheaper, to find a good
taylor which is at least the equalivent of an older (not vintage) martin.
okay i love my taylor 810.

michelle

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x-to:         indigo-girls@netspace.org.today.i.was.in.this.weird.abstract.play.about.the.holocaust.we

had never practiced it with the music that was going to be played
during the black outs.  i gave my director the honor1 cd for good music
hints.  so were up their on stage and it's all black and we are waiting
for the music to start, and it starts, it's this train!!!!!  i nearly
jumped up and started squealing (which would have been really bad,
considering the play).  how cool! the first scene is the cattle car
scene and she chose this train (nothing better then hearing those
chords and amy's voice).  than for the second blackout (after i've been
shot and killed) she chose oil, arms, and drugs (for those who don't
know, it's a rather humorous, in a sick way, ulali song on honor)!  the
crowd found the song really funny.  what awesome music choices!
    than later on in the day, i got to play guitar accompaniment on the
wood song for my friend's chorus final!  to bad her partner seriously
butchered her part (she was singing em's part, em would roll over in
her cough syrup if she heard it!).  but i had fun!  okay, i think i'm
finished rambling.  quick question, does anyone have ulali's album?  is
it good? should i buy it? be honest...

    keep on rockin,
        leah

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subject:      2 great articles
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interview with the members of lift
http://360mag.com/features/lift.htm

review of shaming of the sun
http://360mag.com/indigo/indigoa.htm

jodi e. hersh graphic design & photography, inc.
929 sycamore drive * decatur, ga  30030
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subject:      pay pre view and t180 tapes

ok guys, here's the deal.

t180 tapes are hard to find and expensive.  the only local store that has
them is tower and they want $15.00 per tape. but, i found a place on the
net that had them for $4.25, plus $0.25 for a sleeve, plus shipping. the
web sight is http://www.tlwtape.com/blank_video_cassettes.html. so i
ordered 10 t180 tapes. the total cost for the order was $64.00. so if you
want me to make you a copy, here are the options.

        a) send me a check for $6.50 plus a sase for mailint the tape
           back to you.

        b) send me a $10.00 check and your address.

        c) send me a blank t120 and a sase, and i'll copy the concert
           on ep speed for you.

        d) send me a blank t180 and a sase, and i'll copy the concert
           on standard speed.

        e) send me 2 t120's and a sase, and i'll copy the concert on
           standard speed.

        f) send me a blank t160 with a sase, and if the concert fits on
           the tape i'll copy it at standard speed, if not i'll copy it
           on the ep speed.

        note) if you have already sent me a t120, please write me and
              let me know.

btw, let this be a lesson in how something seemingly very simple can't get
difficult, and we haven't even gotten into pal yet.

anyway, my address is:

trant batey
2105 b courtney
austin tx, 78745

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subject:      pay per view in ohio??

does anyone know if the ppv event will be aired in toledo, ohio??  i have
reqular cable and the event isn't listed in the tv guide.  i think the
network they use is called impulse.  if anyone knows how i could get the
event please, please e-mail me.

thanks,
mary

fare thee well, my bright star,
i watched your taillights blaze into nothingness.
you were long gone before i ever got to you,
before you blazed past my address.---emily sailers

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<waves hi>

due to circumstances which would certainly bore ya if i went into them
<grin> ... i've got an extra ticket to the june 13 (friday) show at fraze
pavilion in kettering (dayton), ohio.

good news/bad news:

good news:  good seat - section c, row e seat 3 or 4 (amy side, just a bit
<smile>), cost $30 even (what i paid)
bad news:  i've got the other seat wha ha ha
good news:  you can hang out with me and my visitors from tennessee after
the show if you like (hi cathy : >)

btw i am *highly* unlikely to dance and if this pisses you off, well ya got
the wrong place to be sitting...i will however sing along at most of the
appropriate times and have a good time : )

: ) -- these are pretty darn good seats, and if you were otherwise not gonna
go, you ought to : )

off to religion class,
lorie

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subject:      pal format

does anyone on the list have the ablilty to copy a my 1st gen version of the
concert from vhs to pal?

trant

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hi everyone!  :)

wow, this is my first ig post in a looonng while.  dang blasted
school keeps getting in the way!  <grin> i so love the
messages about all of the concerts --> keep 'em coming!  and enjoy
every minute!

today in my creative writing class we were discussing the technique
of stream-of-consciousness and how it can be effectively used.
needless to say, i became very excited.  *wink*  we studied passages
from james joyce and virginia woolf (another ig reference!)  my
teacher asked if we had heard of any others who employ this method of
writing...my hand shot up and i exclaimed, "the indigo girls!"  a
goofy grin was plastered on my face for the rest of the period.  :)

i offered to bring in an example for the class to hear.  since it is
the end of the year, many of us students are very antsy and i thought
some music would spice things up [and possibly convert a few
people...<innocent look>].

here is my dilemma:

at present the only live recording i own of ig is 1200 curfews.  tony
[da chickenman himself] has previously stated that the 1200c version
of "chickenman" contains an amy stream-of-consciousness (i believe it
was featured on his 'carnage' compilation), but for the life of me i
can not recognize it.  having never witnessed an soc myself, i was
under the impression that it incorporates a rambling train of
thought.  to my knowledge, the 1200c version of "chickenman" does not
differ from the lyrics present on rites of passage.  have i missed
it?

as another option, i was wondering if the 1200c version of "pushing
the needle too far" contains a stream-of-consciousness.  [the part
where amy shouts no head, no mind, no stomach, no body, etc.] is this
one i could use?

please respond a.s.a.p. with your comments and advice, so that i will
be able to make a decision before class tomorrow morning.  i really
hope things will work out so that my english class can be introduced
to the wonderful world of indigo!

thanks so much for your assistance.

sincerely,
lisa j. :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the memorable food fight scene...

idgie:she's trying to teach me how to cook!
ruth:look at those fried green tomatoes!

both:bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
                 -fried green tomatoes
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hi everyone,
           i know someone put in a post that wfuv was hosting a contest for
the best banner to win backstage passes.  well i heard that there is nothing
afterwards because the girls have a meeting.  if anyone knows if this contest
is still on...mail me as soon as possible..peace and love! -deb
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am i the only die-hard fan that always gets concert seats that require
binoculars, has never gotten amy and emily's autograph or had someone
from ulali go backstage and get it for me, has never seen amy riding in
a car on the way to a performance, doesn't have a friend that invites me
along for an interview with amy and emily..............
am i the only one,   or just the only one to admit that i am lacking any
seriously cool indigo moments.    sigh........still hoping!
deedee   <while tiny violins play>

"i have lost friends, some by death, others through shear inability to cross the street."
..........virginia woolf

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hey ya'll :)
        i just wanted to let you know that the people at ticketmaster are
cool.  this gal let me stay on the phone for 2 minutes waiting for
tickets to go on sale here in dallas. i kept asking her stupid questions
about some ticketmaster magazine to keep her on the line.  when all was
said and done i ended up with 4th row center stage!!!!! i am soooooo
excited!!!
        btw.... we live in los colinas and get can not get pay per view
channels. ( we live in an apartment complex that gets cable free) is
there anyone out there in the dallas area that would be kind enough to
make me a copy of the concert on ppv?  if so please email me :) i would
greatly appreciate it!  vrgwolf1@mail.airmail.net
peace, virginia :)

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which concert trant


on mon, 2 jun 1997, trant batey wrote:

> does anyone on the list have the ablilty to copy a my 1st gen version of the
> concert from vhs to pal?
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> trant
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6/2/97

i will be in the detroit area on june 14 and i'm looking for a really good
seat for the indigo girls concert.
if anyone can help me out, please e-mail me privately.  thanks!

barb

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subject:      msg 6/3  2 tickets available

hi all-

i have two tickets available for tomorrow night's show at msg.  the tickets
are for section 10, row p, seats 4 & 5.  the price for both is $68.00 (what i
paid for them).  if you're interested or know someone who is page me at:
917-948-2571.  we'll have to make some arrangements to meet.  i live in
queens
and am willing to meet you somewhere in the vicinity.

thanks!
allie

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subject:      great woods plea....

my g/f and i are going to great woods as her b-day present from me.
however, we are making the trek from maine and do not have a place to
stay for the night after.  we are not freaks (ok, maybe in the ig fan
category) and really just need a place to stay.  anything would be
greatly appreciated, even floors or back yards (we might be bringing a
tent just in case).  we have a car and will hopefully be in the pre-show
caravan.  hey, if you're lucky i may even bring my guitar for a bad
version of blood and fire, and even let you plug your ears!  thanks in
advance for the kindness that abounds on this list!  (that was a
shameless bit of a guilt trip!)

love, and hopefully indigo on friday!!!!

jess

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subject:      help with jonas & ezekial

help!!!  i have the rop songbook & trying to teach myself j&e, can anyone
help me out with the strumming pattern?

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygoopg@aol.com)
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subject:      may 31, hartford show - boot wanted

hey y'all!...if i could have a tape of the may 31 hartford show, i could
relive over and over the kick ass time i had at the show!!!!!...so here's
my plea to y'all out there, if any of y'all have or will have a boot of
this show, could i also get a copy?...i own a few import ig cds (4.5, the
history of us, etc.) and i'd be happy to put it on tape for a
swap-a-roo...

here's my *thanks* to the boston indigo people who set up our list
meeting at the brickyard, where a connecticut radio station was holding
its pre-concert party!...there, the lord above blessed me by giving me
center stage tickets!!!....i love you bostonites (su, mike, chris, lynn,
audrey, margo [congrats on grad school] and everyone else)!!!...

if y'all do have a boot, please email me!...@=d take care, jen

~~~~~~~~~~~activism~~~~~~~equality~~~~~~~~peace~~~~~~~~~~~~
jenny korn
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subject:      nigc - furor over "same-sex game"

pitiful, i tell you....read on if you're interested in an associated
press story on the brigham city, utah "furor"...

---------------------------------
furor erupts in brigham city schools

a.p.  (brigham city, utah) -- the brigham city school board met in an
emergency session yesterday with the city council to consider
allegations
that the school district's youngest charges were being inculcated with a
pro-gay ideology and same-sex marriage.

the issue arose after scores of parents complained that children in the
kindergarten class at brigham elementary were being led in a game which
mimicked same-sex marriages.  at issue was the game "the farmer in the
dell."

renee mott, the accused kindergarten teacher, explained: "the class is
way over-balanced with girls.  i mean, we have lots more girls than
boys.
sometimes it just happens that way, it's just chance.  so when we play
farmer in the dell, sometimes i let a girl go first, so that everybody
gets a turn."

the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the
farmer
takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little girl to
join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."

"this is just setting a bad example to our young and impressionable
children," said jared day, whose child is in the class.  "if you don't
stand up for family values, this country is going to go right down the
toilet."

"it's upsetting the natural order of things," concurred lisa perkins,
"and it's upsetting me, too." "it's like dragging those innocent
children
down into a ditch.  it's an outrage that we can't protect our own
children from that sort of filth," said her husband, wayne perkins.

"i know these things may happen in other places," said janabell millett.
"but this is brigham city.  we can't let that kind of pollution into our
town.  and into the kindergarten, no less!"

the extent of the furor over this issue can be gauged by the number of
town citizens who have got involved -- far more than just the parents of
students in the kindergarten class.  at the extraordinary joint session
of the school board and the city council, over 200 parents and others
showed up to voice concerns, and petitions were submitted with hundreds
of names.

"somebody told us about this in relief society last sunday," said filene
dunnbody, referring to the mormon women's weekly church meeting.  "we
started the petition right then and there.  we just knew we had to take
action; we were all so mad about those poor little children.  after we
got everyone in relief society to sign, we took it over to the men's
quorums and they were glad to sign on, too.  even some of the youth
signed."

it was rumored that mormon churches in neighboring towns were gearing up
to bus in hundreds more parents to the next school board meeting, should
the issue not find an immediate resolution.

parents in brigham city have organized an action committee, and have
stated that they will sue the school board and the kindergarten teacher
personally for psychic damage to their children.  they have asked a byu
law school professor to represent them in the case, and have already
drafted a law for the state legislature which would ban all play acting
of same-sex marriage in the public schools.

when kindergarten teacher renee mott testified to the combined school
board and town council that the situation had come about entirely
innocently, her explanation was met with pronounced scepticism.

"i just wanted all the children to have a turn," she concluded, visibly
shaken.

"i don't care how "innocent" this thing started," responded leclare
moffatt, speaking for the combined council.  "if not all the students
get
a turn, that's just too bad.  there are more important issues at stake
here."

"the farmer has to be a boy," concurred mayor tom merrill.  "a boy gets
picked first.  that's the way we always played the game, and that's the
way it should be played.  you might as well get used to it."

the extraordinary joint session of parents and school board dismissed
after reaching a tentative solution.  regardless of class sex ratios,
boys would be picked first.  however, in the interests of fairness, the
position of "the cheese" would be reserved for a girl.  at the end of
the
game, the children sing "the cheese stands alone, the cheese stands
alone.  hi ho the dairy-o, the cheese stands alone."

"that should be enough to make anyone happy," concluded school board
president jack peterson.

c.  k.  woodworth,    a.p. remote correspondent
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greetings all:

could someone please email me the ig hotline number to check on tour dates?

gracias

ps: is anyone willing to send me a dub of the  ppv...i don't have cable and
none of the systems my friends are hooked up to seem to be carrying it.
please email.

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>"the farmer has to be a boy," concurred mayor tom merrill.  "a boy gets
>picked first.  that's the way we always played the game, and that's the
>way it should be played.  you might as well get used to it."
>
>the extraordinary joint session of parents and school board dismissed
>after reaching a tentative solution.  regardless of class sex ratios,
>boys would be picked first.  however, in the interests of fairness, the
>position of "the cheese" would be reserved for a girl.  at the end of
>thegame, the children sing "the cheese stands alone, the cheese stands
>alone.  hi ho the dairy-o, the cheese stands alone."
>
>"that should be enough to make anyone happy," concluded school board
>president jack peterson.


i am sorry, but i could not let this pass by without some comment.
i know i am preaching to the choir here
(wish i had another term for that, any offerings?)
but...this is not only heterosexist, but sexist.

the entire game should be thrown out, if it could be called a game at all.
actually, it is.  it is a mating game,
imposed on the very young and highly impressionable.
what are they teaching our children anyway?

deb

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>also, the world seats about 35,000 and the majority are lawn,
>soooo my point is, if you have pavilion -- you're at least closer to the
>stage...
>
>and if for some reason i am wrong about the poles (which i dont think i am),
>then i need to seriously stop drinking so much at concerts...<koff koff>

word on the world theater.  it sucks.  i was there last week for the q101
music jamboree.  this place is great for picnicking and seeing large top 40
bands.   plenty of grass and plenty of grungy high schoolers (not that
there's anything wrong with that of course).   yes any opportunity to see
ig is a good one to take, but i hated this theater.  the poles are huge and
everywhere.  whoever said there are no bad seats is smokin bad things.  if
you have lawn seats just bring the binoculars and as someone said
earlier--angle yourself to avoid the poles.  it is very far from the stage.
you have to squint to see the screen that is showing the performers--so
forget actually seeing the performers.  it is a very non-ig place.  they
will hate it.  of course i'll be there nonetheless :).  ciao for now

gf

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hey all,

new release date for caroline aiken's new album, "butler field," is july 22,
1997.  no really, we mean it this time.  if you'd like to get your hands on
the cd before that date, caroline has some of them with her at her live
shows.  this is caroline's first studio album in six years, and it features
a cool guest appearance by indigo girls on the title track.  for a real
audio preview of this cd, cyber-cruise over to the silverwolf records
website:  http://songs.com/silverwolf.

southeast folks, and whoever else may want to road trip, the album release
party/concert for "butler field" is june 29th at smith's olde bar in
atlanta, 1580 piedmont ave, ne (at monroe), 404 875-1522.  anything goes at
caroline's release parties -- i think i'm still recovering from the "live
bait" party a few years ago...

new tour dates are being added daily, literally, so stay tuned to caroline
aiken's website (listed below) for updates.  here's what we have so far:

june 7, 1997: twice told coffeehouse, louisville ky
june 21, 1997: grey eagle, black mountain nc -- 9pm
june 28, 1997: pride concert, atlanta ga
june 29, 1997: smith's olde bar, atlanta ga -- cd release party for butler field
july 4 - 6, 1997: new bedford summerfest, new bedford ma
july 8, 1997:  boston-area, venue tba
july 11, 1997: arlene's grocery, new york ny -- 7pm, (212) 358-1633
july 13, 1997: columbia folk festival, columbia pa -- showcase stage, 10:30am
july 17, 1997: canterbury's, long island ny -- 9:30pm, w/ julie hoest
july 25, 1997: bele chere festival, asheville nc
july 26-27, 1997: falcon ridge festival, hillsdale ny
august 30, 1997: kerrville wine and music festival, kerrville tx
september 26, 1997: big spring jam festival, huntsville al -- 8pm
september 27, 1997: sautee-nachochee community center, sautee-nachochee ga

as always, we are open for questions, comments, and miscellaneous musings.
ciao for now,

lorene machado
machado entertainment, management and promotion
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>furor erupts in brigham city schools
>
>a.p.  (brigham city, utah) -- the brigham city school board met in an
>emergency session yesterday with the city council to consider
>allegations
>that the school district's youngest charges were being inculcated with a
>pro-gay ideology and same-sex marriage.


good lord!  we will need a lot of help to push big ole utah down to the
gulf of mexico to join alabama.  but it can be done.  may the bulls squash
the jazz... and i'm a friggin knicks fan!!   i just hate stupid 'states' of
ignorance--pun intended.  ba-bye

gf

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&
# greg m. flamer      gflame@nwu.edu  %
$ 535 w briar pl #556                 *
& chicago, il  60657                  &
^                                     )
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&  to kill somebody and into the      *
$  urge to...rock!"--ani difranco     ?
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date:         mon, 2 jun 1997 21:41:34 -0700
reply-to:     "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
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from:         "amy j. putnam" <pegasus@crl.com>
subject:      re: nigc - furor over "same-sex game"
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this was actually shown to be a hoax....ap has no record of this
rlease ever having gone out.

                          _________
amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
                http://www.crl.com/~pegasus

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at 08:18 am 6/2/97 ut, camille wrote:
>hey there kind friends--help me out here :-)
>
>i have a few questions regarding dates--i have seen conflicting info.
>regarding the utah show -- can anyone confirm if the concert is on the
15th of
>july or the 16th????  do we know when tickets go on sale?

the park city show is definitely july 16, i have confirmed that with
smithtix, wolf mountain, and various other sources.  tix go on sale this
saturday, the 7th, and wristbands are available now.  i heard that on 107.5
about the wristbands.   too bad i won't even be around for the concert
though....

corinne

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subject:      re: hartford...

mike reynolds <io20742@maine.maine.edu> writes:
---snipped throughout---
> - i even will forgive the police guy who thought i was nuts (until
>jen saw me and called them off -- and deb o'donahue seemingly became
>my public defender) it was not a big deal -- infact jen of ulali had
>some choice words about security but i told her "wait to you see great
>woods"

> i absolutely love the venue -- five times better than great woods!!!
>maybe even ten.

>one listee and myself started the rush to the stage during bury my
>heart -- amy and em smiled at both of us numerous times -- we were
>right in front of them during ctf and kid fears.

i'm not sure what mike is trying to imply about great woods, but i live
in the boston area and have been there a few dozen times.  friday will
be my fourth time seeing the indigo girls there.  it is a very well run
venue with excellent acoustics and great lines of sight, and that may
be why it was chosen as the site for the pay per view broadcast (not to
mention that boston area ig fans rule - right, igboston people?).  if
you think you can go there and act stupid, then stay home.  security is
there to protect the artists _and_ protect concertgoers from being
injured, and rushing the stage is _not_ cool.

y'all behave yourselves,
fran e.

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subject:      re: nigc - furor over "same-sex game"

in a message dated 97-06-03 00:37:18 edt, you write:

<< the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the
farmer
takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little girl to
join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife." >>

good god man !!!!!
(and i mean it !)
i remember doing this when i was a kindergartner and we never
did it coed....we just sang the song and did the little dance....and this
was 1963 !!!!!!!!!!
i guess we were too busy chasin' commies back then and didn't notice the
subversive queer agenda.
unbeleevable !!!!!!!!!
i need these people (with far too much time on their hands..)
address. this insanity has got to stop !
hi ho the dairy-o !
claire

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hey ig fans i was just wondering what time people were planning on getting
there. i am going to dinner with a couple of friends before hand and i
wanted to know when i must be outta there. the tix say 8pm so i was
wondering what would be a good time to get to msg. also is anyone opening
for them or is it just them playing? will ulali be there? i can't wait for
tomorrow night, too bad my throat is all sore and if i even tried singing i
would sound like a wounded goose ( where the heck did that come from!?!?)
anyway, hope to see "y'all" tomorrow night and sorry boston people but
nyigfans are the best!!! (no flames please, it was just a joke!! ;-) ;-) -dave
p.s.- who else is going to the vh1 hard rock live taping?? are there going
to be seats? whats the deal?

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hey kind friends!

        come float, paddle, or swim down the guadalupe river (near new
braunfels, texas) on the weekend of july 19-20th with your ig comrades!  we
should camp out on the river and sing ig songs all night long in front of a
roaring campfire :)
        i can make general arrangements, if i get an idea of how many to
expect.  there is inner-tubing for the mellowist adventure (complete with
coolers full of intoxicants ;o) or banana boats, canoes, or kayaks for the
more adventurous!! :)
        beware though, that the guadalupe river can approach category 3 or 4
river conditions depending upon the rainfall.  on the other hand, during a
draught there's barely enough water to make it worthwhile.  so we'll just
have to ask the ig goddesses for ideal conditions! ;)
        if you're interested, please email me privately and we'll make
arrangements.

cool runnings~
i       tony, da chickenman - houston, texas, usa       g
n                                                       i
d       not content to bow and bend to the whims        r
i       of culture that swoop like vultures eating      l
g       us away to our extinction -  emily              s
o

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from:         kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
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subject:      nigc -- london pride weekend 4/7/97

hi, all ---

any uk residents or visitors in london for pride weekend & july
fourth (american independence day):

we (sarah & i) are having a drop-by on friday, 4/7, to which we are
inviting all mle-listers and ig-listers who will be in the area.
food and non-alcoholic beverages will be provided, and lots o' music
of the etheridge, indigo girls, ani di franco, etc. kind. e-mail
privately if you're interested for more info and directions.

(we have special facilities for american speakers if needed.)

also, anyone who wants to get together at the march/celebration but
can't come to the party on friday, e-mail & we'll set up a
rendezvous.  otherwise, we're wearing the infamous mle-list purple
bowling shirts, so give us a shout if you spot us on saturday.

sorry about the nigc.

kate

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subject:      ppv

hey guys,
  what time is the pay-pre-view on, i live in illinois, so actually when is
it on central time?

thanks!

mj

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subject:      re: same sex game :)

in a message dated 97-06-03 01:33:19 edt, you write:

> however, in the interests of fairness, the  position of "the cheese" would
be reserved for a girl.  at the end of  the  game, the children sing "the
cheese stands alone, the cheese stands  alone.  hi ho the dairy-o, the cheese
stands alone."
>

can i be the cheese, puleeeze ?

jude :)

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subject:      re: nigc - furor over "same-sex game" [hoax!]
x-to:         pegasus@crl.com

hey y'all!

whew, our ig list members are on the ball!...i apologize for sending this
out as i've just been told by at least two members that the article was a
hoax...i'm glad it was a hoax, but i'm unhappy that i fell for it...sorry
again...

take care, @=d jen

~~~~~~~~~~~activism~~~~~~~equality~~~~~~~~peace~~~~~~~~~~~~
jenny korn
__kshucks@juno.com__
thailand~alabama~boston
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subject:      new of dylan nigc

bob dylan was released from the hospital this weekend
where he had been undergoing medical tests and subsequent
treatment for pericarditis brought on by histoplasmosis.
he was admitted on may 25.  doctors are continuing to
treat him and are confident that mr. dylan will make a full
recovery in four to six weeks.

when asked about his plans for his recovery period, mr. dylan
said, "i don't know what i'm going to do.  i'm just glad to
be feeling better.  i really thought i'd be seeing elvis soon."

while it is unknown exactly how mr. dylan contracted
histoplasmosis, the fungal condition which resulted in his
illness, doctors believe that the severity of his
condition was due to the length of time between the
onset of symptoms and the eventual diagnosis.

mr. dylan was forced to cancel a european concert tour
that was to begin june 1 in cork, ireland.  he plans to
fulfill his u.s. concert schedule, and has recently
completed work on a new album that will be released later this year.

in other news of a musical type :) k.d. is supposed to be on rosie's on
friday, i think.

jude :)

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subject:      k. d. lang on rosie

yeah,  make that thursday :)

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from:         tobye rae nelson <tobyerae@iglobal.net>
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at the tcu ig concert in ft. worth i surprised my spouse with tickets to
new york for our anniversary (june 6th). well, we're off in a couple of
hours to take a plane from dfw to ny for the week. my partner & i are going
to be celebrating our 11th anniversary & i just surprised her with tix to
see the girls at msg tonight!!!

on our anniversary, my vcr will hopefully be taping ig on ppv. and on that
same day i plan to give second row tix to my sweetie for the ig concert on
the 28th at starplex in dallas.

now i ask you, is this just too excellent? she won't know what to expect
next! just thought i would share my happiness with the list. i would also
like to express my gratitude to the list members as well. i got all my tips
and dates from ya'll. i'm sure my spouse will thank you as well.

thanks ya'll!

                            =-=-=-=-=<>=-=-=-=-=
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reply-to:     oh susanna <oh.susanna@dartmouth.edu>
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from:         "susan b. marine" <susan.b.marine@dartmouth.edu>
subject:      press record and laugh (nigc)

--- chirs wrote:
please tell me someone booted these shows ...
--- end of quoted material ---

dangit!

i had every intention of making a *great* boot of hartford, but for some
reason, the little snazzy recorder joni and i share has all these wacky
features that you have to know before making a tape---

i think mc hammer made a tape, didja "margo"? ;) if so, maybe she'll be really
nice and share wit us.

anyone else tape? howdy?

sus

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reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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from:         kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
subject:      ig in pulse magazine

there's a pretty nice article about the ig in this month's pulse magazine
(which is available free at any tower records store.) one particularly
interesting thing from the article was amy and emily's desert island discs
lists, which i'll reprint here without permission:

amy:
1. magnapop: magnapop
2. patti smith: horses
3. rocky horror picture show soundtrack
4. the clash: on broadway
5. rickie lee jones: pirates
6. bob marley: legend
7. west side story soundtrack
8. rage against the machine: evil empire
9. peterson's guide to north american birds
10. buffalo springfield: retrospective

emily:
1. patti smith: wave
2. tori amos: little earthquakes
3. etta james: anything
4. bob dylan: infidels
5. maggie and terre roche: seductive reasoning
6. ennio morricone: cinema paradiso: the classic film music of...
7. rage against the machine: evil empire
8. queen latifah: nature of a sista'
9. joni mitchell: hejira
10. jackson browne: for everyman and saturate before using (half of each)

i'll send a copy of the magazine to anyone who sends me a sase; email me
privately for details.
kirsten (who owns two of the discs on emily's list, one of which she bought
the same day she picked up the magazine, but before reading it...)
--
;;kirsten chevalier kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu often in error, never in doubt
;;"let the woman's hand, opening / curtains, and the woman, rising, / be a new
;;theorem, solid and given, / the beginning of an elegant / and irrefutable
;;proof."--anne haines | http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/ ;;no comment

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hello all. got this forwarded to me and thought it was a wonderful idea.
thanks.

>----------
>from:  justjewels@aol.com
>sent:  tuesday, june 3, 1997 1:42 am
>to:    leann black
>subject:       fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>
>hi baby,
>
>please pass this on to your indigo girls list of friends.  for every name,
>the american cancer society will donate 3 cents to cancer research...
>
>thanks!!!
>-j-***
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>date:    97-06-02 10:07:29 edt
>from:    andrewbrnt
>to:      lkinch@vines.iusb.edu,apt art
>to:      brianc3695
>to:      kathy_borkowski@pleasantco.com
>to:      dfausts,denis.j.lindquist.1@nd.edu
>to:      dragonron,jcoolm,ernie1ec
>to:      justjewels
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>date:    97-06-02 04:36:37 edt
>from:    brtndrbear
>to:      tazbearman,andrewbrnt,rozenbomb
>to:      roncz1,dex1,geekzo,parker1515
>to:      robby043,ukcub,ltcmderdax
>to:      gafurbear,zarenm
>
>it' a good cause..come on everyone and pass it along..:-) jim
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>date:    97-06-02 02:07:01 edt
>from:    parker1515
>to:      brtndrbear,alzard@michiana.org
>to:      lvillwock@vines@iusb.edu
>to:      westarm@michiana.org
>
>i couldn't hurt to reead this
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>date:    97-06-02 01:00:49 edt
>from:    westeruk
>to:      moab5
>cc:      myc84,len and di,parker1515
>
>read before you delete...
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on for charity
>date:    97-06-01 23:25:59 edt
>from:    jkr7083
>to:      jolynn525,carousel@qatar.net.qa
>to:      nessiem7,wdeter4400,the reno 1
>cc:      cocaboy,mexboy13,firen99812
>cc:      evilmove,westeruk,spiceboyz1
>
> please people, look at this before you delete it.
>
>  thanks,
>    kenny
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-06-01 19:17:44 edt
>from:    geronimo53
>to:      jwm1215,kwhite1226,cinder8199
>to:      i luvuonly,dastreakr,masctopp
>to:      just me486,abar2roam,satman6969
>to:      slamb563,skye vamp,rm1 navy
>to:      rcbear9589,tenspro692,texianten
>to:      garth30,ymsemaj,felious,jes4utex
>to:      jhamm11714,minn333. rmil220
>cc:      prov7,doc4cubs,pyu73,kd 3474
>cc:      jkr7083,zelko22,pwrtool55
>cc:      urza435669,tcobb84623,gadong7
>cc:      keneth b,kpoir19858,thague1767
>cc:      micmacboy,fatrcat,basic will
>cc:      studlysd,slwphb,btrlvr,jl4276
>cc:      duntuchme,slk4me
>
>this is a good cause.  check it out and pass on.
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-23 22:55:55 edt
>from:    trg345
>to:      myshyheart,xssess,tiger lbca
>to:      ericder,stroke3000,geronimo53
>to:      jayd619470,rlim663,vance21005
>to:      craigctb,rbender363
>
>in a message dated 97-05-22 21:43:32 edt, den lady1 writes:
>
><<
> i got this today.... pass it on!
>
>    for cancer research...tickle me!  :-)
>
>                     elmo
>                    __   __
>                  .'  '.'  '.
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>
>           .~     ^  /   \  ^     ~.
>           \-._^   ^|     |    ^_.-/
>           '\  '-._  \___/ ^_.-' /'
>             '\_   '--...--'   /'
>                '-.._______..-'      /\  /\
>                   __/   \__         | |/ /_
>                 .'^   ^    '.      .'   '__\
>               .'    ^     ^  '.__.'^ .\ \
>              .' ^ .    ^   .    ^  .'  \/
>             /    /        ^ \'.__.'
>            |  ^ /|   ^      |
>
> for every new person that this is passed on to the american cancer
> society will donate 3 cents to cancer research.  please help us.
> forward this to everyone you know.
> thanks for helping!!
>  >>
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-22 21:43:32 edt
>from:    den lady1
>to:      majgaydadi,jpludeman,jbattle606
>to:      waycam,jsarg26739,jesyjames7
>to:      screenshy,jchico9,star235
>to:      wezlmuffin,trg345,lukinrnd
>to:      vrmhugs,cyclopzeye,astev72204
>to:      slickmoe,i bop
>to:      taz@garrett.ncin.com,wobynhood
>to:      hokusai2,djstorie
>
>please forward
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-22 21:37:16 edt
>from:    buuble
>to:      juliapaige,bbar40,pulga37
>to:      nursekr26,tinybr549,hottexdoe
>to:      guera 97,cat 005,over35les,sltm1y
>to:      wva7546,jbaugh2,boydejour
>to:      thenn6535,menow80636,marinabee
>to:      den lady1,mthr clare,gsned10530
>to:      stne butch,mcdeb62,dwood52829
>to:      sphinx7067,fgale26
>cc:      buuble
>
>this is one i do have a personal interest in.........pls help if you can and
>pass this on...........thx a bunch......
>luv ya all,
>buuble
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-22 20:35:20 edt
>from:    tedybear59
>to:      islandgrl7,sugrbear37,ilvmets
>to:      cheeto1905,dunk1950,lisabele
>to:      lb56lehigh,willing258,silvrfox34
>to:      eyenuthat,buuble
>
>pass it along
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-22 14:26:34 edt
>from:    jlynnm
>to:      tedybear59,parman777,ayearoffun
>to:      alicepr,indcowboy3,ienaye
>to:      nrobin1154
>
>i know, i know, but its for a good cause.....:)
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 22:16:10 edt
>from:    beldurn
>to:      oneoddgirl
>cc:      cpicklo@njha.com,yeoldejoke
>cc:      lanezrus,frizzyperm,eyezgrene
>cc:      byte me 22,weisshaupt,wrekked em
>cc:      buniefufu,jlynnm,eccxdave
>cc:      akibaben,legalrep4u,mpolt
>cc:      smiles 000,tradergirl,grl4fun
>cc:      mms232,aspire94,erin018,lde 43
>cc:      ravenwood,rowan,phylosophy
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 21:31:46 edt
>from:    las1213
>to:      iastx
>cc:      tsandahl@iastate.edu,headkc
>cc:      kitkat96,beldurn
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 21:07:29 edt
>from:    lomaine
>to:      grizzlyoo4,gabby19320,painth
>to:      maka97,mongoose,louse42,velvet q
>to:      tequilarze,ferengikev,top jm
>to:      soskinny2,sandnsun31,ccountry46
>to:      evlcaitlin,cotulooken,luvinladi
>to:      b4 sum,dittoha,lillian555
>to:      flynaked1,congo1021,lv2flywu
>to:      jigsawjohn,las1213,conners03
>to:      conners01,email ann,cazorp101
>to:      smadsen13,tout tail,ansarschip
>to:      bigredd516,szzzzzzzy,suzscld9
>to:      drnastyone,demented,zooth52148
>to:      scwife29,msnag4,kamaelma,ecu1
>to:      mdemint,ylowjacket,dadrewes,mopoe
>to:      brockass,lil miss,lowphlyer
>to:      theomats,bayview000,tinaet
>to:      jlc 8690,msp3d,tam41265
>to:      ckirk15674,sandetchr,iastx
>to:      luvyourtts,kitkat96,boomintens
>to:      cyncrowder,tasteofsun,d00dle97
>to:      deeversant
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 18:14:21 edt
>from:    saabwmn
>to:      roseng@worldnet.att.net,elmosal
>to:      mstngsaly,rgray19520,velvet q
>to:      lilmiss980,kamaelma,emerald36d
>to:      grizzlyoo4,lomaine,savage mom
>to:      ansarschip,sixpakjim,snobear qt
>to:      kgeorge101,tout tail,mijude
>to:      cazorp101,eromaral2,painth
>to:      imjsme1,louse42,hapi@peoples.net
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 18:08:40 edt
>from:    fiu 2
>to:      erson99,sigher8216,ynre
>to:      desiresinc,justme1138,nathank1
>to:      hoeffa,kynaki,slicenitup,pslider
>to:      bojolay,orchid8471,vol300
>to:      lyannmdtob,worf1k,jasnkidd
>to:      soniccrash,saabwmn,atricot166
>to:      wdreamer2,atlantadvc,fantasy847
>
>for a great cause
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 16:31:55 edt
>from:    miamiboy19
>to:      nore1,purdeeboy,latinito
>to:      casperslc,xcel07,swulf fine
>to:      woolfe10,didas18,i12xlr8,fiu 2
>to:      laugh18,panth101,yakd,hspinboy
>to:      trek22,yourboy169,rancid5118
>to:      n8dog2xtrm,broken18,planet598
>to:      dbuergo,rsv20,babble69,ricky19
>to:      guy18,mike20fl,iceis407
>to:      raven69606,fiujockguy,mrpapi2u
>to:      zaloman,beach1342
>
>this chain letter is for a good cause...keep it going
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-21 16:20:33 edt
>from:    oxsparkyxo
>to:      miamiboy19
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 23:50:57 edt
>from:    oxsparkyxo
>to:      cprampage,aioannides,ospacerato
>to:      da land 11,mshrumsoup,basic mad
>to:      ealva49856,dtmausa
>
>here guyz ...i know most of you hate chain letters but c'mon lets help out on
>this ,  its for a good cause. =)
>laterz
>sparky
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 21:51:28 edt
>from:    carwjm
>to:      oxsparkyxo
>
>its me!
>
>love carrie
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 15:10:44 edt
>from:    raguero906
>to:      carwjm
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 12:41:25 edt
>from:    mermaidrn
>to:      dreamz2048,shadow211,rookieart2
>to:      sillytia,raguero906,strmchsr44
>to:      kparad01@servax.fiu.edu,jorgio17
>to:      cexyvoice,jdelg75,excelirleo
>to:      md2be erik,infante r,medic92
>to:      jestermiam,out2punish,bunkergod
>to:      boy at um,moralito,zule71,i3927
>to:      aquar16,maru78
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 09:39:01 edt
>from:    jorgio17
>to:      mermaidrn,mintykiss,spices69
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-20 09:36:15 edt
>from:    jessie0011
>to:      jorgio17
>cc:      ac1323,fire stud,buzzjp69
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-14 22:27:33 edt
>from:    h20guy23
>to:      gmny171,swtpooh71,loovey,twt02
>to:      chavert,jessie0011,ajoy711
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-13 21:37:18 edt
>from:    wyndyn69ya
>to:      zredroc,twt02,red storm,smilk1969
>to:      sal t gurl,doccane98,pg3598
>to:      h20guy23,its333
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-13 16:19:51 edt
>from:    acop4cyber
>to:      wyndyn69ya,sasseonez,gwenetteg
>to:      blauengel,stang rkp
>
>lets help out here...hope all is well
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-13 15:49:06 edt
>from:    tigger499
>to:      acop4cyber
>to:      amb@capitol.statehouse.state.nj.us
>to:      shannon@frontier.wilpaterson.edu(shannonbusch)
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-13 15:33:17 edt
>from:    megaviper1
>to:      blond1sexy,sweetpe475,tigger499
>to:      shell1967,eve22,suniee7,baby442
>to:      spicegrl07,ncgrandam,halftunn50
>to:      mystic1641,ohpmyncj,katiktam
>to:      mercury005,nr lax 27,tiaknows
>to:      t circe
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-09 16:22:21 edt
>from:    mystic1641
>to:      th4dees4us,nashcat2,nitestlkr9
>to:      mightymke,megaviper1,dvteezer
>to:      lonranger9,pmclen20,myechos
>to:      ibadas
>to:      hh838@cleveland.freenet.edu(cindyberman)
>to:      vacutainer,da mack01
>to:      tempest@mindless.com
>to:      jason.deaton@nashville.com
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-07 11:06:22 edt
>from:    scoll lady
>to:      mystic1641
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-05 19:15:01 edt
>from:    tnbigman
>to:      scoll lady
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-05 19:03:03 edt
>from:    tencbabe
>to:      somedayume,fubar621,fancy1017
>to:      matromanc,alienrelic,pt0035
>to:      ilikemud,dino145,klkjr,lucky2beme
>to:      danielsjlc,tnbigman
>
>:)
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-05 16:31:22 edt
>from:    tuffkop
>to:      jbbw2,tencbabe,denang,msbert2u
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-05 01:29:13 edt
>from:    equal
>to:      sooperdon,gab626,rferr55217
>to:      tncple4us,damlucky1s,tuffkop
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-04 23:25:07 edt
>from:    hcluv
>to:      txlady223,sweets8737,dnt4uallx
>to:      bakobi,equal,my murron,marimag
>to:      boxerglove,foxyfish 7
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-02 22:28:58 edt
>from:    kathy2235
>to:      hcluv
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-02 19:54:30 edt
>from:    sexiladi69
>to:      kathy2235
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-05-02 02:55:47 edt
>from:    jshank6869
>to:      sexiladi69
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-17 19:10:19 edt
>from:    miabethr
>to:      girl3boy1
>to:      jjjjcochran@worldnet.att.net
>to:      jdswan2@ix.netcom.com,filmboy466
>to:      trishqc,hogans@hotmail.com
>to:      fthofaseed,tnt qc,marswa@clare.edu
>to:      anglsamgu,im4theking,jarhead 76
>to:      ilovegod2,abaker5003,speed1
>to:      jshank6869,skidz@hotmail.com
>to:      sbrdarling,died4me977,wlkwthhim
>to:      briggsj@juno.com
>
>elmo ---
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-17 15:39:14 edt
>from:    wrigleyrob
>to:      singout7,milliew,miabethr
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-17 14:25:10 edt
>from:    ssacbadboy
>to:      ejay917,wrigleyrob,azevedo69
>to:      model girl
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-17 01:24:30 edt
>from:    crazy4u507
>to:      ssacbadboy
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-17 01:18:16 edt
>from:    vair rider
>to:      a kach101,ucmehackn2,smrtandsxy
>to:      skore8,lve2hvefun,saxxgirl
>to:      shauneef,elijahs10,mzach79
>to:      creecree88,awilkey100,crazy4u507
>to:      lynnie 14,aurora7800,gtarwiz
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-16 19:07:10 edt
>from:    futurense
>to:      marksman95
>cc:      vair rider
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-16 09:21:39 edt
>from:    mworr58810
>to:      futurense
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    fwd: cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-16 00:46:05 edt
>from:    kmorgen104
>to:      azchristin,nos4a2@pixi.com
>to:      amstar@inficad.com,ckalb drmr
>to:      geoffsjen,msrae4
>to:      jessicah@u.arizona.edu
>to:      cariann@neta.com,mworr58810
>to:      mae@dana.ucc.nau.edu,pattycl
>to:      darian he,brutus@caribsurf.com
>to:      sonich@ix.netcom.com
>
>
>---------------------
>forwarded message:
>subj:    cute elmo pass it on
>date:    97-04-15 23:41:48 edt
>from:    pattycl
>to:      testweight,tmartz747,dianna car
>to:      markh92778,cristallee,skinemine
>to:      kmorgen104,nos4a2@pixi.com,msrae4
>to:      azchristin,ckalb drmr
>to:      sonich@ix.netcom.com,darian he
>to:      brutus@caribsurf.com
>
>i got this today.... pass it on!
>
>   for cancer research...tickle me!  :-)
>
>                    elmo
>                   __   __
>                 .'  '.'  '.
>              _.-|  o | o  |-._
>            .~   '.__.'.__.'^  ~.
>
>          .~     ^  /   \  ^     ~.
>          \-._^   ^|     |    ^_.-/
>          '\  '-._  \___/ ^_.-' /'
>            '\_   '--...--'   /'
>               '-.._______..-'      /\  /\
>                  __/   \__         | |/ /_
>                .'^   ^    '.      .'   '__\
>              .'    ^     ^  '.__.'^ .\ \
>             .' ^ .    ^   .    ^  .'  \/
>            /    /        ^ \'.__.'
>           |  ^ /|   ^      |
>
>for every new person that this is passed on to the american cancer
>society will donate 3 cents to cancer research.  please help us.
>forward this to everyone you know.
>thanks for helping!!
>
>

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date:         tue, 3 jun 1997 07:08:12 -0700
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>the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the >farmer
>takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little >girl to
>join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."

it's all so clear now.....so this is why i am the way i am!  they made me
this way!   oh, gawd, now it all makes sense......we played this game
endlessly, and now look at me!!!!   "girl-farmer"!;)

hoax or not, the fact that the story is plausible is frightening in itself.

betsy


...........................................
i want to be the girl with the most cake.
                    -courtney love
...........................................

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date:         tue, 3 jun 1997 10:21:43 -0400
reply-to:     iyr@aol.com
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from:         iyr@aol.com
subject:      winthrop question....?

hey,

i think winthrop is fast becoming one of my fav ig songs...
my question is...why didn't they put it on sos?  are they going to release
it...? maybe as a b-side...?
thanks..
rob

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date:         tue, 3 jun 1997 10:21:55 -0400
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from:         brian beasley <bbeas48@aol.com>
subject:      re: same sex game :)

in a message dated 97-06-03 06:48:20 edt, you write:

<< can i be the cheese, puleeeze ?

jude :)

-- >>
    .....................uhhhhhhhh.........no...............suze- i-kins b.
marine is the
cheese..........

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date:         tue, 3 jun 1997 09:28:37 -0500
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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      t180 quality qestion

guys,

the followinf question came-up in talking about making copies of the
concert, and i was wondering if perhaps someone on the list had any
more technical information about t180's. i have included my response,
but i'm not sure that its accurate.

> i talked to a guy at tweeter cause i was looking for a 180 tape and he said
> the quality was really bad and it's better to use ep mode. i sent a 120. i've
> never really taped anything, which is better? if the 180 works better than
> i'm willing to do a trade. why is dubbing so confusing?????!!!!!!!

my response:

what is tweeter? i'm not an expert, and i don't know what he meant by 180
tape is really bad.  he may have meant that the tape is thinner, in order
to get 180 minutes, so it is more likely to break. he could have been
implying that its just bad quality.

this is my take on it. i'm assuming tweeter is a place where you can buy
tapes.  180 tape are rare, and it is likely that tweeter does not carry
them. the person you talked to wanted to sale you a tape. he probably
thaught, since you are a woman, that you were not very technically oreinted.
so, he figured he could tell you any reasonable sounding lie, and get you
to buy a different tape than the one you came in looking for.

this is what i know. at least i think i know. the single most important thing
in picture quality is tape speed. the cheapest tape you can buy will have a
better picture than the most expensive professional tape, if the cheap tape
is recorded at sp and the expensive tape is recorded at ep. so, it would be
a bad mistake to tape at ep instead of sp, thinking that the 120 tape would
have a better picture quality. i also know that tdk has an e-hg t180 tape
which should have the same exact kind of tape as the tdk e-hg t120. so,
it seems like a flat lie to me to say that 180 tapes have poorer quality than
t120.

if your really worried about tape quality, just send a second t120, and i can
tape the concert half on one tape and half on the other. this to me is a better
option than using ep mode.

trant

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hows the tour goin????haven't heard...drop me a line when you get a
minute
pooh

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no, you aren't the only one...i feel your pain!!
amy c. =)

on mon, 2 jun 1997, indigo skies wrote:

> am i the only die-hard fan that always gets concert seats that require
> binoculars, has never gotten amy and emily's autograph or had someone
> from ulali go backstage and get it for me, has never seen amy riding in
> a car on the way to a performance, doesn't have a friend that invites me
> along for an interview with amy and emily..............
> am i the only one,   or just the only one to admit that i am lacking any
> seriously cool indigo moments.    sigh........still hoping!
> deedee   <while tiny violins play>
>
> "i have lost friends, some by death, others through shear inability to cross the street."
> ..........virginia woolf
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from:         derek duncan <dlmsduncan@juno.com>
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>interesting thing from the article was amy and emily's desert island
>discs
>lists, which i'll reprint here without permission:
>
>amy:
>1. magnapop: magnapop
>2. patti smith: horses
>3. rocky horror picture show soundtrack
>4. the clash: on broadway
>5. rickie lee jones: pirates
>6. bob marley: legend
>7. west side story soundtrack
>8. rage against the machine: evil empire
>9. peterson's guide to north american birds
>10. buffalo springfield: retrospective
>
>emily:
>1. patti smith: wave
>2. tori amos: little earthquakes
>3. etta james: anything
>4. bob dylan: infidels
>5. maggie and terre roche: seductive reasoning
>6. ennio morricone: cinema paradiso: the classic film music of...
>7. rage against the machine: evil empire
>8. queen latifah: nature of a sista'
>9. joni mitchell: hejira
>10. jackson browne: for everyman and saturate before using (half of
>each)

anyone else surprised to see rage against the machine on both of their
lists?
i didn't see emily being a rage kind of person.  i know they have worked
together for some central american causes.

btw- it is a good cd.

--derek

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                      subject:                              time:
10:44 am
  office memo         msg security tonight??                date:
6/3/97

well hey there!
along with screaming my lungs out and shaking my booty, i may have a
small metal device capable of recording music (on second thought maybe
i won't scream my lungs out).  people who have been to msg for a
concert in recent years, could you please let me know what kind of
security they have?  a)  the light feel you up kind
           b)  the feel you up-let-me-check-your-internal-body-temp
kind
           c)  walk through metal detectors
           d)  or just a visual check
also if they happen to see something that may not be permitted, what
measures are taken?
does anyone have a clue?  anyone? anyone?
---cathy

p. s.  can i be the cheese, too.
..hi ho the dairy-o...

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              at jun 3, 97 10:09 am

nooo!!!! pleeeze read the faq before you post. this is a hoax. check out the
following, taken from the acs web page <http://www.cancer.org/chain.html>:
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                                    line

                          fraudulent chain letter

         this statement may be copied or reprinted by online users

   the american cancer society is greatly disturbed by reports of a
   fraudulent chain letter circulating on the internet which lists the
   american cancer society as a "corporate sponsor" but which has in no
   way been endorsed by the american cancer society. this letter appears
   to have started on america online but has now spread well beyond the
   online service. there are several variations of this letter in
   circulation, including one which has a picture of "tickle me elmo" and
   one that is essentially a paraphrase of the letter below.

   the text of the original message reads as follows:

   little jessica mydek is seven years old and is suffering from an acute
   and very rare case of cerebral carcinoma. this condition causes severe
   malignant brain tumors and is a terminal illness. the doctors have
   given her six months to live.

   as part of her dying wish, she wanted to start a chain letter to
   inform people of this condition and to send people the message to live
   life to the fullest and enjoy every moment, a chance that she will
   never have. furthermore, the american cancer society and several
   corporate sponsors have agreed to donate three cents toward continuing
   cancer research for every new person that gets forwarded this message.
   please give jessica and all cancer victims a chance.

   if there are any questions, send them to the american cancer society
   at acs@aol.com

   as far as the american cancer society can determine, the story of
   jessica mydek is completely unsubstantiated. no fundraising efforts
   are being made by the american cancer society using chain letters of
   any kind. furthermore, the email address acs@aol.com is inactive. any
   messages to the american cancer society should be instead sent through
   the american cancer society website at http://www.cancer.org.

   this particular chain letter with its heartbreaking story appears to
   have struck an emotional chord with online users. although we are very
   concerned that the american cancer society's name has been used to
   manipulate the online public, we applaud the good intentions of all
   who participated in this letter. we are pleased to note that there are
   so many caring individuals out there and hope that they will find
   another way to support cancer research. jessica mydek's story, whether
   true or false, is representative of that of many cancer patients who
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"spouse" is such a horrible word.


>at the tcu ig concert in ft. worth i surprised my spouse with tickets
to
>new york for our anniversary (june 6th). well, we're off in a couple of
>hours to take a plane from dfw to ny for the week. my partner & i are
going
>to be celebrating our 11th anniversary & i just surprised her with tix
to
>see the girls at msg tonight!!!
>
>on our anniversary, my vcr will hopefully be taping ig on ppv. and on
that
>same day i plan to give second row tix to my sweetie for the ig concert
on
>the 28th at starplex in dallas.
>
>now i ask you, is this just too excellent? she won't know what to
expect
>next! just thought i would share my happiness with the list. i would
also
>like to express my gratitude to the list members as well. i got all my
tips
>and dates from ya'll. i'm sure my spouse will thank you as well.
>
>thanks ya'll!
>

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you're kidding, right?  i wanted to heave for no good reason?  please say
people on this listserv aren't that cruel.
amy c.

on mon, 2 jun 1997, amy j. putnam wrote:

> this was actually shown to be a hoax....ap has no record of this
> rlease ever having gone out.
>
>                           _________
> amy p.                    \       /     who holds your hand
> pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
> monk@world.std.com          \   /
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>                 http://www.crl.com/~pegasus
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this is a sad example of what is truly wrong in our country---ignorance,
sexism, homophobia, and rabid hatred.

i have to go now, i feel a heave coming on.
amy c.

on mon, 2 jun 1997, j. k. wrote:

> pitiful, i tell you....read on if you're interested in an associated
> press story on the brigham city, utah "furor"...
>
> ---------------------------------
> furor erupts in brigham city schools
>
> a.p.  (brigham city, utah) -- the brigham city school board met in an
> emergency session yesterday with the city council to consider
> allegations
> that the school district's youngest charges were being inculcated with a
> pro-gay ideology and same-sex marriage.
>
> the issue arose after scores of parents complained that children in the
> kindergarten class at brigham elementary were being led in a game which
> mimicked same-sex marriages.  at issue was the game "the farmer in the
> dell."
>
> renee mott, the accused kindergarten teacher, explained: "the class is
> way over-balanced with girls.  i mean, we have lots more girls than
> boys.
> sometimes it just happens that way, it's just chance.  so when we play
> farmer in the dell, sometimes i let a girl go first, so that everybody
> gets a turn."
>
> the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the
> farmer
> takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little girl to
> join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."
>
> "this is just setting a bad example to our young and impressionable
> children," said jared day, whose child is in the class.  "if you don't
> stand up for family values, this country is going to go right down the
> toilet."
>
> "it's upsetting the natural order of things," concurred lisa perkins,
> "and it's upsetting me, too." "it's like dragging those innocent
> children
> down into a ditch.  it's an outrage that we can't protect our own
> children from that sort of filth," said her husband, wayne perkins.
>
> "i know these things may happen in other places," said janabell millett.
> "but this is brigham city.  we can't let that kind of pollution into our
> town.  and into the kindergarten, no less!"
>
> the extent of the furor over this issue can be gauged by the number of
> town citizens who have got involved -- far more than just the parents of
> students in the kindergarten class.  at the extraordinary joint session
> of the school board and the city council, over 200 parents and others
> showed up to voice concerns, and petitions were submitted with hundreds
> of names.
>
> "somebody told us about this in relief society last sunday," said filene
> dunnbody, referring to the mormon women's weekly church meeting.  "we
> started the petition right then and there.  we just knew we had to take
> action; we were all so mad about those poor little children.  after we
> got everyone in relief society to sign, we took it over to the men's
> quorums and they were glad to sign on, too.  even some of the youth
> signed."
>
> it was rumored that mormon churches in neighboring towns were gearing up
> to bus in hundreds more parents to the next school board meeting, should
> the issue not find an immediate resolution.
>
> parents in brigham city have organized an action committee, and have
> stated that they will sue the school board and the kindergarten teacher
> personally for psychic damage to their children.  they have asked a byu
> law school professor to represent them in the case, and have already
> drafted a law for the state legislature which would ban all play acting
> of same-sex marriage in the public schools.
>
> when kindergarten teacher renee mott testified to the combined school
> board and town council that the situation had come about entirely
> innocently, her explanation was met with pronounced scepticism.
>
> "i just wanted all the children to have a turn," she concluded, visibly
> shaken.
>
> "i don't care how "innocent" this thing started," responded leclare
> moffatt, speaking for the combined council.  "if not all the students
> get
> a turn, that's just too bad.  there are more important issues at stake
> here."
>
> "the farmer has to be a boy," concurred mayor tom merrill.  "a boy gets
> picked first.  that's the way we always played the game, and that's the
> way it should be played.  you might as well get used to it."
>
> the extraordinary joint session of parents and school board dismissed
> after reaching a tentative solution.  regardless of class sex ratios,
> boys would be picked first.  however, in the interests of fairness, the
> position of "the cheese" would be reserved for a girl.  at the end of
> the
> game, the children sing "the cheese stands alone, the cheese stands
> alone.  hi ho the dairy-o, the cheese stands alone."
>
> "that should be enough to make anyone happy," concluded school board
> president jack peterson.
>
>  c.  k.  woodworth,    a.p. remote correspondent
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due to the stupidity of foley's computer system (which crashed at two
minutes till 12), blockbuster's asinine policy of only taking cash, the
sheer incompetence of the tom thumb ticketing person and bloody texas
tickets (cursing furiously here), i stood in line for dallas tickets at
11.15 (sale started at 12, i was the only person in line), and was only
able to get tickets in rows x and s, and not even the center section!!! i
am so pissed, i could go on forever. but if someone knows about a class
action suit against texas tickets, please let me know. i am ready to
personally spearhead that movement at this point. four hours after tickets
went on sale and ticketmaster didn't even have tickets in the front
sections, you could buy them at texas tickets for one hundred and
twenty-five dollars each anywhere in the middle section, front ten rows.
tell me this isn't illegal.

okay stopped ranting now. and this anger is 4 days after the fact, imagine
what i was like day of the sale. and then after this i had to go to a swim
party for first graders and be polite so as to not embarrass my son.. what
a task!

bottom line.....i have three extra tickets for sale. including postage,
they will cost $100 (no markups of course). they are for emily's side,
section 100, row x, seats 23, 24, and 25.   please call me at (817)
921-7722, ext. 6139 immediately if interested. leave a message with your
number if i'm not in.  preference given to out-of-towners who will be
booting the show.

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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nyig fans are the best...i just wish i were home!!!!!!! anyway, you can get
there around eight- things won't start exactly one time, and since you have
specific seats, things are pretty organized. because i'm a little anal, i
personally would get there y 7:15-7:30, but it's not absolutely necessary.
i recommend it, but hey...

sari

p.s. if you're sitting anywhere near the floor seats, section 133 comes to
mind, you might be able to walk all the way to the entrance of the floor
seats. i did during rem, but check to make sure security isn't being rough.
>date:    mon, 2 jun 1997 15:07:29 -0700
>from:    david bacharach <bf19583@binghamton.edu>
>subject: tomorrow night ig at msg question
>
>hey ig fans i was just wondering what time people were planning on getting
>there. i am going to dinner with a couple of friends before hand and i
>wanted to know when i must be outta there. the tix say 8pm so i was
>wondering what would be a good time to get to msg. also is anyone opening
>for them or is it just them playing? will ulali be there? i can't wait for
>tomorrow night, too bad my throat is all sore and if i even tried singing i
>would sound like a wounded goose ( where the heck did that come from!?!?)
>anyway, hope to see "y'all" tomorrow night and sorry boston people but
>nyigfans are the best!!! (no flames please, it was just a joke!! ;-) ;-) -dave
>p.s.- who else is going to the vh1 hard rock live taping?? are there going
>to be seats? whats the deal?
>
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on tue, 3 jun 1997, mediancat wrote:

> >the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the >farmer
> >takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little >girl to
> >join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."
>
>  it's all so clear now.....so this is why i am the way i am!  they made me
> this way!   oh, gawd, now it all makes sense......we played this game
> endlessly, and now look at me!!!!   "girl-farmer"!;)
>
does anyone remember igc? that is, indigo girls content?

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though this is cute, it's a big hoax, and no money goes to charity. sorry
to burst y'all's bubble, but this has been going around here forever. also,
whoever sent it on, please erase all the forwards!!!!!

sari

>> i got this today.... pass it on!
>>
>>    for cancer research...tickle me!  :-)
>>
>>                     elmo
>>                    __   __
>>                  .'  '.'  '.
>>               _.-|  o | o  |-._
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date:         tue, 3 jun 1997 09:22:06 -0700
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no, no, no, that"s not why...

now, if they put that cheese over some fire, maybe we'd have something...

;)
g'digo

on tue, 3 jun 1997, mediancat wrote:

> >the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the >farmer
> >takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little >girl to
> >join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."
>
>  it's all so clear now.....so this is why i am the way i am!  they made me
> this way!   oh, gawd, now it all makes sense......we played this game
> endlessly, and now look at me!!!!   "girl-farmer"!;)
>
> hoax or not, the fact that the story is plausible is frightening in itself.
>
> betsy
>
>
> ...........................................
> i want to be the girl with the most cake.
>                     -courtney love
> ...........................................
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rumor is that there is going to be a follow-up album, with a lot of the
folkier songs(yeah!!!!!), such as winthrop, chiapas bound, etc....
sari
>date:    tue, 3 jun 1997 10:21:43 -0400
>from:    iyr@aol.com
>subject: winthrop question....?
>
>hey,
>
>i think winthrop is fast becoming one of my fav ig songs...
>my question is...why didn't they put it on sos?  are they going to release
>it...? maybe as a b-side...?
>thanks..
>rob
>

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> logoff
...is what most of us should have done long ago.
kirsten

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hi everyone:

        for those of you who live in the greensboro/ winston-salem, n.c. area,
timewarner cable is carrying the live ig concert this friday night at 9:00.
if you have cable but you don't have a ppv converter box, you can pick one
up at the timewarner office.  the show costs $15.70 and this includes the
box.  i just picked up a converter box myself.  i can't wait!

dawn

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hey kind friends!

        (only *4* of the boots have been taken so far.....)

        here's that boot offer that i've been promising (all thanks to the
ig goddess carolyn spidle :)

        offer:  the grand emporium, kansas city, missouri 7-18-89 - 90 mins.

side a: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, cold as ice,
prince of darkness, summertime, no way to treat a friend, center stage, make
it easier

side b: blood and fire, girl with the weight of the world in her hands, land
of cannan, kid fears, get together, all along the watchtower

        this offer will be extended to the first 15 people who successfully
answer the (5) trivia questions below.  five of those spaces will be
reserved for those on "digest" format.  please indicate in your response if
you are on digest.  only one try per person this time.

(1)     according to amy, who was the line "it's 3am and it's good company"
written about?

(2)     what type of instrument does emily play on hey kind friend?

(3)     what do the numbers 115 and 17 refer to in shed your skin?

(4)     what two songs does emily play banjo on from the shaming of the sun
album?

(5)     approximately how many beers did amy consume while writing reunion?
        a) none
        b) 1-5
        c) 6-12
        d) over 12 beers

good luck! :)

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why not just tape at lp  (4 hours) ??????

chris

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anyone else going to the show in
> minneapolis??)
hi!
i'm goimg to the show in shakopee (mpls.).  the tickets don't go on sale
until june 14th, or so say the masterminds at ticketmaster.  unfortunately,
i have no idea what kind of seating they will have at canterbury park.  i
might drive down there (it's 20 minutes south of mpls.) just to check it
out.  if i find out where the good seats are, i'll let you know!
peace
amanda

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subject:      q about ppv

just wondering if anyone can confirm for me the time and date of the ppv
special (est). also from the list i've learned that its 180 minutes. is this
correct and does this include the opening act (ulali)? thanks alot!
dana

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>what is tweeter? i'm not an expert, and i don't know what he meant by 180
>tape is really bad.  he may have meant that the tape is thinner, in order
>to get 180 minutes, so it is more likely to break. he could have been
>implying that its just bad quality.

i have always just known to stay clear of 180 video tapes (as well as 120
audio tapes) because of the thinness issue, but because others are probably
having the same dilema as trant i brought this topic up with our video
producer / expert dude extrodinaire here at work just to get a
professsional opinion. as trant said, 180 tapes are thinner and are more
likely to break. but the extra tape on the reels also make them hard on
your vcr because the machine will struggle to push all the tape through. if
you intend to play the concert back over and over, you are taking chances
with a 180 tape as they are prone to breaks and jams.

>this is my take on it. i'm assuming tweeter is a place where you can buy
>tapes.  180 tape are rare, and it is likely that tweeter does not carry
>them. the person you talked to wanted to sale you a tape. he probably
>thaught, since you are a woman, that you were not very technically oreinted.
>so, he figured he could tell you any reasonable sounding lie, and get you
>to buy a different tape than the one you came in looking for.

goodness there's a lot of assuming going on in that paragraph! roll eyes
and continue...

>this is what i know. at least i think i know. the single most important thing
>in picture quality is tape speed. the cheapest tape you can buy will have a
>better picture than the most expensive professional tape, if the cheap tape
>is recorded at sp and the expensive tape is recorded at ep.

there's "hertz" and there's "not exactly"; this is time for "not exactly":
the only time a noticable difference in ep and sp shows up (and this is
from said video dude and based on experience) is when you create a copy.
dubbing from a sp recorded tape will produced much better results than from
an ep recorded tape. but if you play a first generation ep tape and a first
generation sp tape side by side you will notice little if any differences
with the untrained, unassuming eye. if you are taping just to have the
concert, the quality of the source and how you plan on using the tape need
to be taken into consideration. in other words, if you're not going to make
copies of your tape and you have intentions of drooling over the close-ups
of amy at every possible opportunity from now until the end of time (or at
least until the next ppv event or your gf tells you "enough"), you are much
better off recording on a professional quality tape at ep.

in addition, cheap tapes are cheap for a reason. they have poorer oxide
adhesion and what does come off the tape will mess up your machine's heads.
that sp recorded event on cheap tape will cost you way more in lost quality
and tape degeneration over time than if you just would have taped it at ep
on a high quality tape in the first place.

>so, it would be
>a bad mistake to tape at ep instead of sp, thinking that the 120 tape would
>have a better picture quality. i also know that tdk has an e-hg t180 tape
>which should have the same exact kind of tape as the tdk e-hg t120. so,
>it seems like a flat lie to me to say that 180 tapes have poorer quality than
>t120.

no, the bad mistake would be to tape on a 180 and have it jam the fifth
time you view it and then you have nothing :)

>if your really worried about tape quality, just send a second t120, and i can
>tape the concert half on one tape and half on the other. this to me is a better
>option than using ep mode.

once again, the source is what's important. if trant's original is taped at
sp whether the copy is taped at ep or sp will make only a slight
difference.

based on what my co-worker said,  it's best to stay away from sp on a 180
tape unless you plan to make copies. but if i were dubbing i would make a
second 180 copy and dub off of that just to save the original from
potential damage. i know there will some lose in quality to the copies, but
at least the dubber's original will be safe.

or another option would be to just own a vcr that has three speeds. i know
my proscan allows me to tape at 2, 4 and 6 hours. i'll be taping at the
middle speed (lp).

deb

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i am so pissed: ppv indigo girls will not be carried in the cleveland area.

i took the cable boxes all the way over to cablevision to exchange them for
pay-per-view compatible ones so i could order ig on friday.  filled out all
those damn forms only to find out they're not carrying it.

now i think this is bullshit.  someone told me that it *would* be on the
radio here but i have to confirm that.  as far as i'm concerned, we really
should, as a list, gigve the all-clear to tape this for the people who can't
see it. after all, i was more than willing to put up my 14.95 to watch it &
i can't so if someone can tape it for me i'd really appriciate it.

i'm just upset because i can't wait another week for bloossom & pine knob.

rob
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>
> why not just tape at lp  (4 hours) ??????
>
> chris
>


there tends to be a lot of sound degradation in going from standard play
to long play on video.


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at 08:48 am 5/30/97 -0400, hunterj1@aol.com wrote:
>was a *long* show...20 songs and lots of chatter :)

it's funny how people's perspectives can differ.  i didn't think the show
was particularly long (1.5 hours, which is the minimum i expect for a band
with more than 2 cds), nor did i think they said very much... <shrug>

||||||||||

at 09:55 am 6/1/97 -0400, iyr@aol.com wrote:
>so, does anyone know of a record shop in the country that has taken up where
>rainy day left off....?

here are some tips for finding bootlegs from my etheridge bootleg list:
"look for local music stores in the yellow pages or newspapers which
advertise imports. find goldmine <http://www.krause.com/goldmine/>, a music
collectors' paper, at those records stores, or at larger music (tower) or
book (borders) chains. scan the goldmine ads carefully. watch for
announcements of record conventions in your area in goldmine and at your
local music store."

in general, it's best not to advertise in this kind of forum *specific*
places selling bootlegs, or they might not be doing it for long.

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at 10:00 am 6/1/97 -0500, abigail <abaroo@execpc.com> wrote:
>>tigger's article--<snipped>
>>
>
>wow, you know what? seriously not funny. not only is it dangerously
>misleading,

i don't know about "dangerously," that's a little over the top.  but i
appreciate tigger's apology for the "coolio" joke.  i've already gotten
questions from friends on other lists to which it was cross-posted!  it's
good to remember that some people will believe *anything*!

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at 11:57 pm 6/1/97 -0400, crandigo1@aol.com wrote:
>     i went to the mann concert on friday.  it was amazing.  it was also my
>first ig concert... i loved it.  what was surprising to me was that the girls
>didn't really have too much to say, i mean they sang 2 hours of music
>straight through.  it was great.  are they always that quiet??

they've never been all that talkative, but emily probably shouldn't even be
singing with vocal nodules, much less chatting!

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at 10:56 am 6/3/97 edt, derek duncan wrote:
>anyone else surprised to see rage against the machine on both of their
>lists?

they both mentioned that album recently... on cnn showbiz news, maybe?  i'm
sure that the political alignment is a big factor.

now, this one, from amy's list surprised me:

>>9. peterson's guide to north american birds

:)

and amy likes magnapop?!

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sorry about the elmo post - was just trying to do a good deed and
certainly didn't expect to get flamed for it. anyway, i wasn't aware of
the nature of the e-mail. again sorry to waste precious time.

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at 01:58 pm 6/3/97 -0400, guinione@aol.com wrote:
>why not just tape at lp  (4 hours) ??????

many players don't even have this option anymore.

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--------- begin forwarded message ----------
from: veronica maraschino <masser@westol.com>
to: botany@juno.com, lship80@trib.infi.net,
stratus100@aol.com,kkniff@westol.com, indigo558@aol.com,
jerman@twd.net,rmatthews1@rachel.chatham.edu
subject: proof
date: mon, 02 jun 1997 16:31:00 -0400
message-id: <1.5.4.16.19970602203100.25cf620c@westol.com>

hi everybody! have a good day!
>
>three proofs that jesus was jewish:
>1. he went into his father's business
>2. he lived at home until the age of 33
>3. he was sure his mother was a virgin,
>and his mother was sure he was god
>
>three proofs that jesus was irish:
>1. he never got married.
>2. he never held a steady job
>3. his last request was a drink
>
>three proofs that jesus was puerto rican:
>1. his first name was jesus
>2. he was always in trouble with the law
>3. his mother did not know who his father was
>
>three proofs that jesus was italian:
>1. he talked with his hands
>2. he had wine with every meal
>3. he worked in the building trades
>
>three proofs that jesus was black:
>1. he called everybody brother
>2. he had no permanent address
>3. nobody would hire him
>
>three proofs that jesus was californian:
>1. he never cut his hair
>2. he walked around barefoot
>3. he invented a new religion
>
>
>


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subject:      tape speed's ep/lp

just a correction, in previous post when i wrote "ep speed" i meant
the "lp speed". that is the 4 hour speed.  my mistake.

trant

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my theory is that not only were a + e subjected to the shockingly subversive
same sex singin' o this song as children, but as "the cheese" both o' them
were *blue* cheese... tragically this resulted in their progress into an
adulthood that was rife with social consciousness, great music, really fun
fans and a penchant for things indigo....
hum dee dum "...of the hotel bed and cheese...." ( i promise promise promise
not to write the whole parody based on leeds ):-)
peace all... kim
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does anyone know for sure what it cost to mail a vhs tape?

trant

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hi kiddies

anyone know anything about dubbing at great woods? like, since they are
borderline-schizo about me bringing my 40 oz. into the parking lot, are they
gonna hang me up by my toenails for trying to bring my recorder into the
venyoo?

i'd appreciate soem advice before i bring the little bugger and it gets
confiscated....

thanky

soos
who had a very different mental picture  when she read about "america's
favorite lesbian act"

ps susan and jocelyn, call yer mama!! :)

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utah has enough of an image problem without anyone's extra help. please,
before you publish--check the sources!

i live in utah, take the papers and listen to the news. if that story
had actually happened, i can tell you that i would have known about it!
the entire nation would have heard about it. nothing on the news or in
the papers.

how quick we are to believe everything we read or hear.

on a different note entirely, i have a wristband to get tickets for my
first ig concert in park city and i can hardly wait.

marian
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i was just watching the prevue channel and saw an advertisement for the
concert on friday.  so, if you are in the dallas area and have paragon cable,
they will be carrying it.  i can't wait.

dena

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subject:      that stupid article...

look y'all i already apologized once publicly, and about 40 times privately!
can we please let it go now?  ok?  it was a mistake and if i'd known it was
gonna tick off the whole world i wouldn't of done it, so can we please let it
be past???????  i'm sorry!!!!!  i promise never to do anything like that
again.  can we let it go & get on with life?

peace, harmony & indigo,

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sorry for the desperate subject line. i was listening to the radio (mix
98.5) and they said they are going to play the entire ig concert on friday
night from 9-11pm!!!! ohmigawdess!

for once in my life, i am thankful that i cannot make the concert. i will
be sitting at home, taping it!!

*excited*

-liz-
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>but as "the cheese" both o' them
>were *blue* cheese.
lol...a very pungent comment from north o' the border. i thought the
original piece, satire or not was pretty funny, as by that line of
reasoning, and the solution to the percieved problem you would be
encouraging polygamy also. no wonder it was  from brigham city, utah;)
marilyn

i am a problem child- i've been wild all my days...(a.ray)

..still crazy after all these years.. (p. simon)

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you know...yeah.  it may be sad that we believe everything we read or hear...but this was completely plausible...not because it was utah, but because of the degree of homophobia and idiocy that does indeed exist in "the greatest country in the world" today.  this is not as far-fetched as you would like to believe.  i am a teacher, and i have seen parents get upset about some of the most ridiculous things...many of them are still having trouble seeing a "family" as anything but a mother, father, and 3.2 children, plus family pet.  until attitudes toward people who are different change, and until people stop overanalyzing everything, and looking for the worst they can find, we will be hearing more things like this...hoax only for a while, i'm afraid.

just my two shiny happy pennies.  = )

jennifer w.

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amazing! i've had the post up for a few hours now and have not received a single phone call for the tickets for june 28!!!!


do y'all know that ticketmaster is now selling section 202, last few rows?

and i am offering seats in section 100, row x, seats 23, 24, & 25????

if interested, call me at (817) 292-3140 this evening. you may still be the big winner.

urvashi u.pitre@tcu.edu

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on tue, 3 jun 1997 12:09:40 -0400, you wrote:

>on tue, 3 jun 1997, mediancat wrote:
>
>> >the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the >farmer
>> >takes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little >girl to
>> >join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."
>>
>>  it's all so clear now.....so this is why i am the way i am!  they made me
>> this way!   oh, gawd, now it all makes sense......we played this game
>> endlessly, and now look at me!!!!   "girl-farmer"!;)
>>
>does anyone remember igc? that is, indigo girls content?
>
i think emily would be the farmer... no wait maybe amy?
any thoughts?

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for sale:  excellent seats!
                2 tickets to indigo girls at great woods
                pavillion/ section 7
                this friday night - june 6th.

           these tickets were bought the day they went on sale.

           i'm asking face value : $28.50/ticket
           contact me :

           email: wraven@tiac.net

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i too have to speak about that this article---
> --how ridiculous this article is infuriated me---first of all, what kind
of backwoods-thought is it that kindergarten age kids are even thinking
about same-sex marriages let alone being "exposed" to them-whatever.  in
kindergarten, kids are concerned about getting a turn and not getting
left out, at least i was---and who's to say the farmer has to be a boy?
whatever-- this is so infuriating to me- girls pick girls at that age
and boys pick boys, for the most part, not becuase of anything to do
with sexuality, but becuase they're friends--so what are these insane
people going to do next?  this is so ridiculous to me and maybe what i
just said makes no sense but i can't believe how some people are looking
for what they think is wrong in little kidnergarten classes--okay, i am
done now. tricia

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hi,

westwood one is handling the radio broadcast of the concert. call their
special events number and ask about the concert. tell them what city
you're in or near and they'll tell you the closest station airing the
concert.

the number is 310-204-5000

leticia
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okay, after i vented publicly i read on to see it is a hoax, so sorry i
went crazy there--but things rile me up easily...it is truly sad to see
that someone would even think this up---and put it out on the internet-
well again, tricia

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everyone interested in getting a pal format version of friday's
pay-per-view concert please read.

sandy at sandy@uow.edu.au will be running the pal format tree.
please contact her now so she knows how many copies to make.
she will be making all of the pal copies from the ntsc master,
so it is important to know how many copies are needed.

thank you,

trant

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hey all,

before i get to wolf trap, let me say a *little* about the penn state show
(almost two months ago now).  i (obviously) put off and put off reviewing
that show being busy and thoroughly interested in other list members'
reviews.  but now, after wolf trap, i can say, the psu show was fabulous!
not because wolf trap was "bad," but because it was my first concert in
exactly two years, it was just amy and emily, it was a pretty small
"venue" and i was row 2, amy side!!  need i say more!! :)  oh, and they
were definitely in top form, imho.  it was my first time hearing shed your
skin, at which time i immediately fell in love with it, the high "yeah's"
and the accompanying (boy, that's hard to spell) hand-guitar-slide thing-y
(if you've been fortunate enough to see it performed, i think you know
what i'm trying to say), superb!  the whole concert i was in a very awed
absorbent state.  i'm sure many of you can relate. :)

ok, i have to stop about psu, i'd go on forever and just get more and more
giddy and confusing (can't wait for the boot, can't wait for the boot...).

ok, wolf trap 5/28... a 3 day late 21st birthday present for me and 1 day
late 4yr anniversary present for my partner and i, couldn't hope for a
better gift!  but, i must echo other's reviews of this show.  it wasn't
bad.  but of the five ig concerts i've been to thus far, it's 2nd to last
favorite [psu's 1st:)].

i was amazed and a little disappointed that they played every song from
sots (shoot me if i'm wrong, someone).  i love the new album, absolutely,
the amy songs of course, and surprisingly for me the emily songs, too.
(usually takes me longer to warm up to em's songs, but not this time,
they're jumpin' out at me!)  kid fears in the encore was beautiful and
very much appreciated!

but besides those 13 songs, the rest of the concert were the predictable
"crowd pleasers" galileo, ctf, lc, etc. don't get me wrong, i love these
songs on the albums, and performed live, heck yeah!  but, it's the crowd
that brings 'em down for me.  what can i say, i'm not a sing-a-long type.
maybe it's the "anti-social" in me coming out.  not that i hate people, or
comradarie (sp?), or community, or togetherness, it's just that the songs
are changed in their sing-a-long format in a way i dislike.  but, that's
just mho, i'm not sayin' everyone who likes to sing along shouldn't, it's
just not for me.  i guess i would have just liked a little more variety in
the set list.  but, again, that's just my own wishes.  i respect am's and
em's decisions to play whatever they want.  heck, they're the ones who
have to play them...

my last "complaint" about the show was that the sound was a little off,
they were having trouble not being too loud for the venue.  that's not
their fault, i realize.  but i think it may have contributed a little to
some songs sounding a little off-kilter.  oh, and i have to agree with
whoever said they didn't seem extremely happy to be there.  not that they
seemed like they wanted to be somewhere else, just a little mellow at
times.

okay, now that i seem to have totally bashed the show, please realize,
this is just my opinion, which is comparing this show to other show's i
have been to, and to me this show is just my 2nd least favorite.  i do
*not* regret going, i *did* have a good time, i just think the
post-parking lot fiasco closed the evening negatively for me, and those
vibes are sticking out for me.  oh my!  i almost forgot, hearing/seeing
chiapas bound for the first time was wonderful, fabulous, beyond
appreciation.  note: i instantly fell in love with this song from first
listen on uno boot.  i guess i have mixed feelings about the shows, highs
and lows...

next!  wolf trap may 29, my 2nd favorite ig show!  (i was suprisingly
sitting near a few list members, but felt awkward fessin' up @ it)  they
played all of sots, 'cept gotm, and what a world of difference.  no
marriage proposal interruption this night, instead sonia! from disappear
fear, super super cool!  after the first night, i was a little scared when
am' returned for the encore and announced a special guest, but was more
than pleasantly surprised to see sonia.

highlights:  scooter boys, with chickenman inserted.  way cool, as scooter
boys was at least once (on a boot i have, can't 'member which one)
inserted in the middle of chickenman.  ulali (both nights) were wonderful.
i can't really put my finger on anything else that was particularly
compelling (i'm blanking), the whole experience was just better.  also,
the crowd was a little less enthusiastic about galileo than the previous
night, which is a good thing for me (although i do love the album
version).  sorry this review is so sparse, i know i'm forgetting much good
stuff.  so, i'll stop boring and offending ya'll who've read this far! :)

peace, melissa

-find myself becoming more immobile, when i think a little girl in the
world can't do anything -e.s.

-got to learn to respect what we don't understand -a.r.

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full name wrote:

>the problem arises with the next line of the children's song: "the
>farmertakes a wife." the girl-farmer would often choose another little >girl to join her in the circle as the "farmer's wife."

> >does anyone remember igc? that is, indigo girls content?
> i think emily would be the farmer... no wait maybe amy?
> any thoughts?

      emily would, most definitely be a cow.... (she loves them)
      amy, the farmer... a hot farmer... but a farmer!

  anyone else think so?
   twink!

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>>does anyone remember igc? that is, indigo girls content?
>>
>i think emily would be the farmer... no wait maybe amy?
>any thoughts?
>
ummm... i've, on several occasions, seen pics of e in bib overalls:-)...
and then there's the whole "cow" thing:-) <moo>:-) ( it was amy )cows are
raised by farmers...
oh... and emily tells us that once in a former life she was a cow who was
milked by a *farmer* with gentle hands who also ate her brother.... and
um... well, uh... well, there *could* be a paralel...omigod!!!... i've gotta
do more research!!!! bye....
peace... kim
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in review of the tape length issue, the following thaughts might be
useful for people trying to decide what to do. this was written in
response to the following question.

<
< hey trant,
<
< now i'm sooo confused... i"m really lousy at decisions.  let's forget the
< t180 option, but which do you think is best the 4 hour speed or 2 @ t120?
<

its sort of a trade off, and it depends on what the concert winds up
being like on friday. if you don't mind switching tapes half way through
the concert, then the 2 t120's is definitely the way to go. best quality
lowest risk. i can see where having a break half way through a 3 hour
concert could be a good thing. on the other hand if you don't want the
break, and your not hyper-crtical about picture quality, but need a tape
you can count on for years, then a high quality t120 is the way to go.

personaly i didn't think i would be watching the concert to many times,
and i didn't want a break in the middle, plus a single tape works much
better for dubbing copies. but i did want as good a picture as possible.
so, i plan on using a t180. but it really just comes down to what you
value the most.

if i had to recommend something to you, this would be it. first wait
until the concert is actually recorded, so i know more about how long
it actually is and if there is a warm-up band and what-not. so, that
if the part that is the most worth having will fit on a t120 or t160
i can let people know. assuming that you do want the whole concert,
and you want a dependable copy, then i would use 2 t120 tapes. this
gives you the very best in quality of both picture and dependability,
also the break between tapes might be nice.

but like i say, i'd wait till after the concert before making any firm
decisions.

trant

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could any of you going to saratoga on saturday please email me?

and here's another plea to please do not repost entire messages back to the
list along with your response!  we digest people must scroll through the
entire same (long) messages over and over and over.....

thanks!
lori


"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
                                            rem

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it seems that at recent shows ig have been a little heavy on the standard
radio-friendly tunes (for example: at hartford i could have lived without
hearing galileo _and_ lc _and_ po2 - or am i hallucinating?) do you think
they are encouraged to play the more well known tunes because it will be
pay-per-view?  they seemed to be "practicing" (people were filming) at
hartford.

not that hartford wasn't a great show, but i would rather hear less
"well-known" tunes like joking, land of canaan, language or the kiss,
fugitive, anything off of nis...ok, maybe there are just too dern many  to
choose from!

happy day,
jennie


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anyone know whether the gw show is being broadcast in the dc area? thanks-

amy

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subject:      re: dubbing at gw?

the official policy is no cameras, tape, or beverages allowed, and that
is
on the tickets in fine print.  on the other hand, they don't usually pat
your body down but i think they usually pat bags down.  so, if you're
good
at hiding a recorder on your body, you might have a chance.

on the other hand, the concert will be broadcast on the radio as well as
on ppv, and a dub made from either will probably sound better than what
you'd get recording it from the audience.

hope this helps,
fran e.

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hi,

though i am young, and cannot tell .... no. although i've been on this
list since december or january, my indigo addiction started with their
debut album. i have an ig page to add to those already on the web.

i've got my ig page up and running. i think i've caught all the
problems. there is a sound page i'm planning on putting up, but i've had
some problems with my server. this will hopefully be resovled within the
week.

any input is welcome. the url is
http://pw2.netcom.com/~lprperez/all.htm.

lucky me,
leticia
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hello all,
can someone please tell me if ig's are going to be in new oleans,
or somewhere around arkansas. and if so when and where.

thanks,
cindy

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subject:      re: to night ig at msg question

i'm coming out of lurkdom to say as a former new jerseyite i am very bummed
out tonight...ig at msg tonight and at (the former) garden state arts ctr
(now pnc-a yucky bank) on thurs...i'm in florida and as far as i know there
are no shows scheduled here...

this is not a happy day  :(

rose

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subject:      hits magazine interview-- long

hey all-- this is from june 2 hits magazine. the picture is the one of them
in matching white coats in an orchard. all typos & spelling mistakes are
mine. reprinted without permission (oops, sorry)

"indigo their own way"
time to eat peach with indigo girls' emily saliers & amy ray by heidi sherman

ever since the world got its ears on the anthemic "closer to fine" back in
'88, the indigo girls' dazzling harmonies have been mimicked around nearly
every campfire. their potent blend of guitar-driven rock and insightful
balladry has bolted the duo to a level of success unprecedented by any female
folk artist. by choosing relentless tour schedules over airwave saturation,
the indigos have cultivated a loving relationship with their audience and
have sold in excess of six million records without ever "selling out" or
succumbing to media hype.
     these days indigos emily saliers and amy ray have a reputation for being
as outspoken as any ticketmaster-boycotting band, with causes ranging from
environmental protection to gun control and pro-choice. their highly
successful '95 "honor the earth" tour was the largest fund-raising effort in
the history of native american activism, and their outwardly out-ness has
been an invaluable boon to the gay community. a heavy load to carry, no
doubt, but these southern folksters from decatur, georgia, know how to use
success and five grammy nominations (including one award) to the benefit of
others.
     the end of april ushered in the indigo girls' fifth full-length studio
release, "shaming of the sun" (epic), to the delight of those who have waited
three years since "swamp ophelia"  hit the top ten of the album charts. the
new record continues in the duo's rootsy-folk tradition, fluctuating between
etherial string arrangements, eclectic southern instrumentation and
inspirational harmonies, all of which float around wildly precise imagery.
gearing up for the release, emily and amy met up with hits' own indignant
girl heidi "ho" sherman, who kept insisting she was not related to the
general that once plundered the pair's home state.

-it's been three years since your last record came out. what has changed
between "swamp ophelia" and "shaming of the sun"?
ar: "swamp ophelia" had very calculated arrangements. everything was big and
orchestral. this record has a lot of arrangements, but it's actually very
guitar-driven and not as orchestrated. "shaming of the sun" is a more
electric, raw and loud record than "swamp." it's more extreme and i think it
sounds freer. we tried to smooth around the edges.

-your lyrics have always been very personal, but they also seem universal
without being cliche.
ar: all my songs are very literal and about me. i've always felt sort of
protected by the music. i think it's an appropriate place for catharsis. it's
what i have, it's the way i can articulate my feelings. i'm not so good at
writing a song that is not really my life, so all i can offer is honesty.

-but don't you feel unsafe about drawing from such complex and personal
subjects? do you fear that your ideas will be misinterpreted?
es: they might misread them, but that's no big deal. it's like poetry; it can
be interpreted in a million different ways, and whatever you get out of it is
valid.

-how has your songwriting changed since the first release on your own indigo
record label?
es: i'd like to think that i've matured with my writing, but some of my best
songs were written a long time ago. and some of my worst songs, too. my
favorites are the ones in which i was most able to get across what i was
trying to say. but it's never exactly how i want it.
ar: i think our imagery has gotten a little tighter. in the beginning--emily
less than me--i tended to generalize things. i wasn't as succinct or unique
at describing situations. we have evolved, our melodies have evolved. our
songwriting has always been pretty radically introspective, but it tended to
be mostly about relationships. now we don't write quite as much about
relationships, and our songs involve more subject matter.

-you draw on a great deal of spiritual imagery. where did all that come from?
ar: i was a religion major, and i've been fascinated by different cosmic
views and sacred texts of cultures around the world. actually, i'm personally
more pagan, so my spirituality comes from nature and the oneness of it.
es: my father is an ordained minister...he teaches theology and writes sacred
music. but growing up, i never had anything shoved down my throat.

-i figured your families must have been pretty openminded and supportive to
encourage you to express yourselves so openly through music.
ar: my parents are actually conservative, but they also feel strongly about
individual thought and creativity. i respect the fact that they overcome
their natural tendencies in order to support me in everything. me being a
musician and being gay were both big deals to my parents.

-do you think your sexuality has affected your music careers negatively or
positively?
es: amy never worried about it, but i had reservations about talking to the
press. i was always out in my personal life and to my family, and i enjoyed
an openly gay lifestyle. but i wanted the focus to be on the music. amy
respected the fact that i didn't want to be identified by my sexuality at
first, but of course, some of my reluctance was fear. eventually there comes
a point when you just don't care anymore and once i didn't, it was no big
deal. and that was a long time ago.
ar: we had a lot of support from the gay commmunity early on...probably
because we were gay. but there was a lot of rumbling that they wanted us to
talk about it more. i mean, it was an important battle to us, but it's hard
to please all the different factions all the time. with political groups, you
can never be as extreme as they want to be, no matter how extreme you are.

-seven records later, you have an established following and you can say
whatever you feel. but i don't recall you being so upfront on any of your
other records. on the new album, emily, you even shout out that you are gay.
es: i do think it's pretty blatant on this record. with that song, "it's
alright," i was talking about the oppression that goes on in the world, and
homophobia is one aspect of that oppression, of that ignorance. homophobia,
racism, environmental destruction and religious intolerance all come from the
same element. they're all connected, and that's what we want people to see.
it sounds loud and bold because it doesn't get sung about in that way that
often.
ar: we're always asked if we feel discriminated by the music industry, and we
can't really put a finger on whether we have directly. i can look at the
whole industry and say that it is a boy's club, and that women are only
recently gaining credibility and that it's still a fluke for a woman to
become a star. it's always noted how alanis morissette's popularity and
brashness are amazing because she's a woman. as long as that remark is still
being made, we know there is discrimination. but we've been lucky. our record
label and the people who are immediately around us help to push our music and
our political agenda.

-you are known to be politically active. how do you choose which causes to
devote your time to?
es: the same issues keep coming up--the environment, women's rights,
pro-choice, gun control, humanitarian aid. we work with a lot of grass roots
organizations and it feels really good to help out and see the effects.

-how do your benefit tours differ from regular indigo tours?
es: they maintain a hard-core emphasis on education and the specific issues,
so we're always learning. plus, we meet incredible people in conjunction with
those tours. the word spiritual has become cliche, but those shows feel very
different from just playing. there's a special feeling about providing
concentrated education to people. it's very powerful.

-do you feel that you provide a role model for women?
ar: we never think about things like that. when we started out, support came
from our college community at emory first, and from the women's community
second. they were just incredibly supportive.

-and you pay them back with benefits and your outspokenness.
ar: some of them would argue that we haven't paid them back. we just do what
we want to do and what we believe in. we don't feel obligated by groups, and
we don't want them to feel obligated by us.

-you two have been playing together since 1981. do you think you can continue
playing together for another 15 years?
ar: we'll always have a relationship. but we may not want to make records
forever.

-has your relationship as songwriters meshed and crossed over more?
es: if anything, it's become more polarized. it's all about balance, and
balance implies opposites working together. that's a kind of lofty theory,
but i think that's what's working with me and amy. we have extreme
differences which somehow tuck in together in their own way.

-what would you do if you lost your hands and couldn't play the guitar
anymore?
ar: i'd walk around the woods for a while, take care of mother nature.
es: that's a scary thought. i suppose i'd go to a therapist and learn how to
use prosthetics.

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if the boston area station is only covering from 9 - 11, with the
additional huor maybe being a opening set by ulali and danielle howle -- so
would the ig only actually be on for 2 hours, which may seem short, but was
about the length of hartford.
hoping *someone* taped hartford,
mike r.

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hi everybody,
here is an article from oregon voice magazine, (a u of oregon publication)
i've been waiting for it since april!  i thought it was pretty good, so here
it is. reprinted without permission and any typos of course are mine!

talking with...the indigo girls
        folk legends the indigo girls discuss their recent year-long hiatus,
                new album, ani difranco and the future of folk music.
                                        by emily walter

        devout indigo girls fans are faithful to the girls and their music the way
someone is loyal to a sister, football team, or lover.  hard-core fans are
known as indy-heads.  indigo girls didn't earn their fans overnight--they've
been playing together since 1981 and have released seven albums since 1985.
emily saliers and amy ray, two southern girls from georgia, bridge a gap in
generations with their style of political folk music.

        indigo girls were in eugene shortly before their new album -shaming of the
sun- was released.  shaming is a continuation of the vein of political
awareness but without the hard edge of their earlier years.  the topics of
their music have changed and are becoming both more political and
retrospective.  songs such as "get out the map" and "hey kind friend" sound
as if the girls are trying to reconcile with the circumstances of the lives
that they've chosen.  tunes like "leeds" address political issues such as the
recent southern church burnings.  this new album is the first release since
the indigo girls released the double live 1200 curfews album with epic in
1996.

        the indigo girls are in a spare dressing room after sound check at the hult
center.  they're  on their tour since their massive honor the earth tour in
1995.  the tour consisted of 21 benefit concerts in 16 western states raising
money for native american activists working to protect the remains of indian
land base and culture.  it was the largest single fund raising effort in the
history of native american activism.  their show was more like an affirmation
through music than a cut and dry concert.  the indigo girls seemed to have
mellowed out a little and started concentrating more on their music.  they've
just come off a year- long rest and their relaxed personalities show in their
easy smiles and thoughtful looks.

        amy ray spent her year off pursuing other political movements, such as the
zapatista revolutionaries and working on her independent label daemon
records.  an atlanta based label, this project shows signs of amy's strong
connection to the folk underground.  emily worked on other projects but took
the year off as an opportunity to get her fingers and toes back in the dirt.
it was a much deserved break after spending years playing festivals, touring
and recording.

        the most immediate impression of amy and emily is how well they work
together.  amy has a speaking voice that could just make a person melt.  her
tenacious political nature is clear.  she is easygoing and talkative,
beautifully complimenting emily's more thoughtful presence.  emily is so down
to earth it's like she's got and inside line with mother nature.  together
they create a classic duo whose lyrics seem to immortalize the hearts of
their fans and whose activism serves as inspiration to all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~

ov: amy, you once said that you and emily lead different lives but come up
with the same music--you end up writing about the same subjects.  why do you
think that is?

amy:   yeah, i think what i was talking about was when we had just had all
this time off.  we really were separate most of the time and didn't see each
other that much.  when we came back together to hear each others' new songs
and stuff we were writing about a lot of the same things.  we had been
through a lot of the same experiences, obviously, the year before we were
off, so i think that it was just that we had both reflected on that and wrote
about it.  but, i thought it was interesting because it pretty much happens
every record.  there ends up being themes.

emily:   well, if you think about it, a lot of our experiences come from
being on the road.  we may interpret or express differently, but we're
observing a lot of the same things.  in the case of the tour, like honor the
earth for instance, that's so powerful and profound and we're learning so
much.  we're around all these really cool environmentalists and grassroots
activists, native americans...we're both hearing the same stories and
learning the same facts and sort of synthesizing internally the same
experiences.

ov:    what did you do after the honor tour?

amy:    we went to england.  it's like we finished.  we did this massive
political tour, environmental tour learning about the effects of colonialism,
colonization, and imperialism and then we go to england where everything came
from, so it was kinda weird--it's not the same people obviously.  we love
england but,...

emily:    at that same time it was a very strange juxtaposition...

amy:    it had a very odd impression on us to be in, to be hanging out with
all these indian activists and then go to a very anglo place.  it was hard,
but we love england so we just kinda worked through it.  with honor the earth
it was like every single day we had politics and press conferences.  that's a
lot, so it's hard to do anything after that.

emily:    we took a year off.  it ended up being a little bit more than a
year actually.

amy:    it's hard for people to imagine that a year seems like such a long
amount of time but...

emily:    it went so quickly.

amy:    we're writing, we're practicing, we're planning other things.

emily:    you lag behind too, when you go on the road, things that you can't
really attend to at home for obvious reasons.  and then when you come back
it's like "whoa, people went through this stuff"

amy:    being on the road has its problems.  i mean, i love travel, it's just
that when you're mostly away you miss funerals and weddings y'know.  and it's
like births and deaths.  i mean everything, you miss a lot of things.  you
miss your family and your relationships.

ov:    do you think that your music outweighs those experiences that you're
missing?

emily: you mean is it worth it?

amy:    is it worth it?  yeah.  yeah its worth it.

emily: it's definitely worth it.  it's just like every job has its drawbacks,
and those are some major drawbacks.  but there are so many things that are
good, we get to have so many great experiences.

ov:    what political movements would you like to draw attention to on this
tour?  or are you trying to at all?

amy:    some cities we go to we'll set up a table in the lobby, like the
national commission for democracy comes to mind, and the chiapas recently
too.  we've done a lot of interviews recently talking about the zapatistas
and that movement and then also a lot of follow up in different states from
the honor the earth tour.  but, really the honor the earth tour is a very
targeted tour.  other than that it's like whoever's having a tough time of
it.  we do benefits here and there.

emily:    yeah, stuff comes up and it's everywhere.  it's just so much a part
of our lives.

ov:    have you ever felt that your issues overshadowed your music at all?

amy:    it would be hard to be objective, i mean we do...we're not heavy
handed in our music, but i  think in our lives we kinda are.  we go, "maybe
this show we should just play music, y'know lets do a tour and not do
politics this tour lets just play music.  if we get asked about it we'll talk
about it but lets not make every show the earth tour."  we never stop writing
about what we want or censor ourselves or, if somebody speaks at a show from
a certain group, stop them.  but, we had no idea if it overshadowed our
music.

ov:    what plans do you have once your record deal with epic is up?
amy:    well we have three records left to make.

emily:    we had kinda thought about it but we're kinda like, "lets not talk
about it."

amy:    yeah, i wanna be independent and emily said...

emily:    you know amy doesn't wanna be on a major label any more and i just
don't feel that way right now.

amy:    i like epic though, epic is different.

emily:    yeah, we have a really good relationship with our label.  amy
struggles more with the association with the corporate corporation and the
selling of music.  i don't have the same...i'm not...i just don't feel as
strongly about it the way amy does.  but y'know in five years i could change
my mind, or anything could happen.

amy:    or i could.

emily:    you could...that's a stretch.  anything is possible, we're really
just enjoying making music together and touring.

amy:    our label, they support us, we can sing about being gay, or
pro-choice or...

emily:    pearl jam, keb mo,...

amy:    a lot of good creative artists that determine their own path are on
that label.  most people on that label are like "y'know, you tell us what you
want" kind of people.

ov:    how do you think folk music has changed?

emily:    it means different things to different people.  there's like
traditional folk, the purer hard -core stuff like woodie guthrie and pete
seager and even bob dylan folk, which is even more the fusion of rock n' roll
and folk with dylan especially as his career progressed.  we've been
pigeonholed in...well, we won the grammy for contemporary folk but we're in
with groups like the chieftains...or ani...

amy:    there's ani [difranco] in folk punk.  i was just thinking about it,
they [mainstream]went through a pop folk phase didn't it?  and now its back
to more organic folk.  i mean ani is organic.  she may be punky but it's like
folky traditional, into politics, folk music.

emily:    there's some musical fusion there...

amy:    yeah, with hip hop beats...

emily:    bass, but the message is there, it's acoustic.

amy:    keb mo, he's so organic, i mean he's not really folk he's blues too.
it feels good, it feels like some of the folk artists are getting back to,
well, we're not, but other people are getting back or trying to be more
acoustic guitar or sly, the sound of it is not so polished.

ov:    what is your relationship, or what do you think of ani difranco and
her music?

emily:    we worship her!  we bow down to her.  she's awesome.

amy:    we're friends.  we'd heard of her for a long time and we've listened
to her.  our bass player [sara lee] played with her this last year so that
was our relationship.  i talked to ani a couple times at eddy's in atlanta,
we got to know her  better, traveled around, and see her.  her drummer [andy
stochansky] played on this record with us on a couple songs.  we traded her
players, we gave her sara and she gave us andy.  we're comrades, i mean in
the musical sense and the political sense probably too.  she is one of those
artists that i can look to and say "i have a peer."

ov:    how do you think your popularity and exposure has changed you?

emily:    i still feel that amy and i still write our songs depending on what
we're thinking about at the time.

amy:    i would say that when i was off for so long i just got more relaxed.
everybody thinks--they look at your life and they go "she's home, she's been
home for a year, she was gone for so long before that, that must be why she's
so different 'cause she's been home."  but that wasn't it, it was everything
else that went on that helped me be different.  but they do say i get
relaxed.  personally, you get on the road and it's a different way of
thinking and life.  the scenery is changing constantly, you're in a different
city every day, it's vibrant all the time.  maybe along with that comes some
sense of watching your back all the time.  so i feel like our last tour
season, me and emily  both were kinda burnt out.  and i don't ever want it to
be like that again, i wanna be free of all that.

emily:    now we know at this point, after playing for so long, we know that
if we take a year off it's not gonna be the end of our careers' y'know.
we're not driven by that "gotta keep goin', gotta keep goin', gotta put that
record out on time."  y'know we're not really motivated by things that
typically motivate people in the mucic business, it feels good.
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da end!
hope you enjoyed this,
catherine

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reply-to:     sea8aggie@aol.com
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from:         sea8aggie@aol.com
subject:      baffled by blondness...

in a message dated 97-05-31 19:15:59 edt, you write:

<<
ok, i was gullible enough to be not only taken in by, but be frightened at
the possibility of amy's blonde hair. >>

i figured it out by the middle of cybernot's story...i mean, c'mon...if both
the indigo girls had blond hair...
                                   how would we tell them apart?

get real.  all blonds look alike.

cheers,

amy (who is blond and certainly hopes that all listees "get it" and don't
flame.  afterall,  it could be worse...i could have continued the "you know
you are an obsessed ig fan when..." string. )

<sigh>

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subject:      you know you're an obsessed ig fan when...

ha!

you thought i was kidding?

but you just don't know how my compulsive mind works.  i was listening to
sots in the car yesterday on the way to a movie.  we stopped to eat at olive
garden and as we were pulling into the parking lot i got this bad feeling.  i
was, of course, right in the middle of demonstrating my versatile ig vocals
and interpretation loudly when i stopped and stared at the restaurant
loathingly as we parked.  my (definitely much) better half (and more sane as
well) asked what i was thinking.

to avoid a long ellen-ish, off, on, off, and then on the subject moment
here...let me abbreviate.

you know you are an obsessed ig fan when...
                           you dread getting out of the car everywhere you go
because the department stores don't play ig and you just want to tell the
olive garden management to kiss your butt goodbye until they replace that
stupid ambiance, italian noise with ig.

i'm wearing down the stones in the river...

cheers,

amy

(the crisis is over...i've just been medicated.  nursie says she'll be back
in a bit to wipe the drool off my face.)

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i mailed one yesterday for $1.24--that's the slow cheap way.  i think
first class is around $2 or $2.50, but am not sure.

trant batey wrote:
>
> does anyone know for sure what it cost to mail a vhs tape?
>
> trant
>

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when you're driving down the road blaring soy and hear the line "in
gainseville town," you scream to the people in the car next to you, "that's
my town!!" even though you live in florida and it's the wrong gainseville
town. the looks are priceless...

jendy

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subject:      msg concert!

awesome!!!!!!


an over used expression, i know. yet somehow, it captures the feeling!  msg
is way to huge of a venue but i was still thrilled to be there!  they were so
into playing....so alive and passionate about their own music.  i was a bit
diasappointed that the crowd couldn't rally for the newer songs but i somehow
managed to get over it!  it would definately be incredible to be with them in
a cozy bar - packed filled with crazy fans.  anyhoooo.......the crowd was
incredible at the end (after galileo, of course!)  and everyone was stomping
in unison for then\m to play another tune.  then.......joan jett came out for
the encore (crimson and clover)!!!

i cannot wait to see them tomorrow night for the vh-1 taping. talk about a
cozy venue!!!

set list (not exactly in the correct order):

mystery
tried to be true
shame on you
it's alright
everything in it's own time
ghost
dgtgag
chickenman
get out the map
scooter boys
leeds
least complicated
burn all the letters
this train
caramia
cut it out
galileo
-----------------
crimson and clover
bury my heart at wounded knee
closer to fine

anyone remember the order?  did i skip any?

'night y'all

8-)
marci

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subject:      re: oregon voice article

in a message dated 97-06-04 01:20:19 edt, cathnshil@aol.com (catherine
diederich) writes:

<< ov:    what plans do you have once your record deal with epic is up?
amy:    well we have three records left to make.

emily:    we had kinda thought about it but we're kinda like, "lets not talk
about it."

amy:    yeah, i wanna be independent and emily said...

emily:    you know amy doesn't wanna be on a major label any more and i just
don't feel that way right now.
  >>

does it scare anybody besides me to think about what might happen once that
third record is done?

peace, harmony & indigo,

tigger, high priestess of amyism (ndygoopg@aol.com)
   member - ssim yknib naf bulc
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"it's alright if you hate that way/hate me 'cause i'm different/hate me
'cause i'm gay..." - e. saliers
"i said you know it's funny/i think we were on the same boat back in 1694" -
a. ray
"mothers tell your children/be quick you must be strong/life is full of
wonder/love is never wrong..." - m. etheridge
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hello everyone,
i had the best time at msg tonight.  i can't believe they played ghost.
ghost is my song, i can identify to it so well and to hear it live, it just
was orgasmic to say the least.  i am sorry i am wasting your time with mail
that isn't very important but this was an experience i must tell people and
everyone is in bed.  well good night and pleasant dreams.
love ya all,
-christine(stine)-

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hi y'all. i was reminiscing with a friend earlier today about my strange
childhood, and she reminded me of a friend i used to have when i was about
6. her name was rita and she didn't like to share. i remember going over to
her house one day and she went into the kitchen to get something to eat. i
was hungry too and thought she was bringing us both a snack. i was wrong.
she wouldn't let me a eat a thing and it totally scarred me for life :) the
farmer in the dell had nothing to do with it. anyways, i was bored earlier
and wrote this little thing about it.

share some rita (sing to the tune of caramia)

share some rita.
bar of chocolate in your back pocket melts.
you used to deny it to me
sometimes i would cry
when i was home later.
cos you hurt my feelings
why why why?
i said give me your chocolate
my wannabe debbie crocker spy.
some say your stinginess
is with your pizza
will you get better
and share it with lisa?
how you mixed the cake batter
at such a young age
until in your home-ec class,
brownies and cupcakes
turned silence to rage.

why are you dreaming this?
one too many hotdogs
and a bridge to cross over.
and where is your catfish now
did you leave it at the restaurant
or eat it in dover?
for 3 nights straight now
i've dreamed i've kept both of my dogs
but you'd stolen the buns
and misplaced my ketchup (i know it doesn't rhyme but i couldn't use hog).
and there's a seafull of fish
and your worm on the line
but it's my pole you're using
so the fish should be mine.

there were the secrets
your momma's chili
and the bigger joke.
you seemed to eat all of it
and asparagus makes you red with choke.
you eat like you're desperate.
you don't know what food is.
i thought if there was one thing you could give me
one thing you could give me
then maybe it was this.
with your head on the kitchen table
the anguished repeat
of me saying "i want some"
and the twist of the cheese.
i don't want what's best for you.
where would i be when you found it?
i pray a lot about these hunger pains inside me
i can't pray my way through or around it.

why are you dreaming this?
one too many hotdogs
and a bridge to cross over.
and where is your catfish now
did you leave it at the restaurant
or eat it in dover?
for 3 nights straight now
i've dreamed i've kept both of my dogs
but you'd stolen the buns
and misplaced my ketchup.
and there's a seafull of fish
and your worm on the line
but it's my pole you're using
so the fish should be mine.

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subject:      msg

ok, indigo lovers, i can't sleep. emily saliers just hugged me and amy ray
just shook my hand.  i somehow got into the green room at msg (after concert
party held there) and was able to meet and talk to the entire group,
including jerry (g?) etc.  it was a blast. amy signed my ticket stub and i
got pictures galore.  the concert was incredible, and we heard many suprise
songs like crimson and clover.  the mix of old and new was perfect and all
the fans were very generous in their applause for both old and new.  the
company was great (jonny, mike, and heather - i love you guys) and the music
just incredible.

if some of this doesn't make sense, keep in mind that if you were just
touched by angels, you probably wouldn't be able to type straight either!
love,
julie (aka the happiest girl in the world right now)

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subject:      ellen james society's "reluctantly we" and amy

hey all,

here i am posting to the list again about something great i've just
heard.....

i've been going indie label crazy lately, especially when it comes to
daemon
artists.  i just got ellen james society's "reluctantly we" from daemon.

i'd recommend ejs most highly.  although ejs broke up in 1993 and
cooper seay, lead singer and guitarist of ejs, co-founded viva la diva,
her
old band ejs is really worth a listen.  (i have to admit that i've not
had a chance
to hear viva la diva yet.)   most of you hardcore daemon fans probably
already
know this, but.........for all you amy fans out there, there
is really an added benefit to getting or hearing ejs's "reluctantly we"
cd.
the last song on the cd (god in heaven) features amy ray (who co-produced

this album, btw).  ohmigod!!!!!  i've never heard
amy rock so much.  and the crazy thing is that the song is from 1990,
when she was folkin' it with emily.  i always knew amy had more of
the rockin' influences in her life, but to hear this song, as old as it
is, is to get more of a window into her interests, energy, and talent.
it's amazing!
and it's 8 minutes long.  amy doesn't just do backup vocals either.
she's
all over this song!  and i mean all over it!  my mouth hung open in
complete
awe the first time i heard it.  i bet it would have the same effect on
some of you.
(for comparison, it drastically rocks more than shed your skin or scooter
boys.)

other great ig performances i've heard lately:

ig with joan baez on joan's live album "ring them bells",
performing "don't think twice, it's alright" - three girls and
their guitars, and great harmonies and solo vocals.

ig doing a ferron cover for the benefit album "spirit of '73: rock for
choice".
they perform "it won't take long".  now, i've never heard ferron's
version,
but ig just plain rocks on this one!  (thanks, veronica!)

lisa

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subject:      re: you know you're an obsessed ig fan when....

you know you're an obsessed ig fan when....

you make your friends go into borders to ask about that oh-so-cool indigo
girls poster, because you've asked about it every other day for the past two
weeks.

you make your friends go into vibes to ask about that oh-so-cool indigo girls
poster, because you've asked about it every other day for the past two weeks.


you make your friends go into sam goody to ask about that oh-so-cool indigo
girls poster, because you've asked about it every other day for the past two
weeks.


smiles :-)
annemarie -----> who missed the ig at msg because she had to pitch in a
softball
                         tournament........sigh

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> someone is loyal to a sister, football team, or lover.  hard-core fans are
> known as indy-heads.  indigo girls didn't earn their fans overnight--they've

hey, cool article!
but i've never heard anyone called an indy-head.
i'm certainly not an indy-head!  are you?....

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from:         ferran nogueroles d'oliveira <maror@teleco.upv.es>
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hi kind friends!
(if repetition, no flame please)
surfing on the web i found out that the sony news homepage announces
the ppv with a nice sticker :
http://www.music.sony.com/music/artistinfo/
and the info in question is: (
http://www.epiccenter.com/epiccenter/indigogirls/news.qry
)
******************************
                              don't miss indigo girls first ever live
                             viewer's choice pay per view concert
                               june 6th direct from great woods
                            amphitheater just outside boston. brought
                           to you by spring communications, inc. epic
                           records and the advocate the telecast will
                            have an approximate run time of 3 hours.
                            special cameras, digital surround sound
                             and other techniques will offer you, the
                             in-home viewer, an unmatched concert
                             experience in the comfort of your living
                            room. local ordering info coming soon or
                            check with your local cable provider.
                            you'll
                           also be able to plug in online for to hear
                           the
                                 show and chat with other fans!

                             summer show dates up now! check out
                            touring. new shows in the north east and
                           canada to be added soon! the indigos will
                             be performing as part of the lilith fair,
                             a
                               celebration of women in music as
                             envisioned by sarah mclachlan, august
                            6th through the 24th. the tour will be
                            taking
                             place in july and august of 1997 all over
                           the united states and canada and includes
                               such artists as fiona apple, tracy
                             chapman, sheryl crow, jewel, suzanne
                              vega, joan osborne, lisa loeb and
                           others. for information check the lilith
                           fair
                            official site. dates and venue locations
                            for
                              the indigo girls' appearances can be
                             accessed in the touring section soon.

                            check out the new single "shame on you"
                             from shaming of the sun in clips. you
                           can also call (800) 742-7269 for music. the
                                new album will be out april 29th.

                            amy ray and emily saliers co-produced
                           shaming of the sun with david leonard,
                              with some tracks produced by peter
                            collins. both men worked with the indigos
                            on swamp ophelia; collins also produced
                           the indigos' 1992 album, rites of passage.
                           the new album contains twelve new original
                           songs, including the premier single "shame
                            on you," "get out the map," "shed your
                           skin," "caramia," and "don't give that girl
                                          a gun ."

                            guest musicians on shaming of the sun
                           include steve earle, lisa germano, dallas
                           austin, andy stochansky (drummer, the ani
                            difranco band), josh freese (drummer,
                           social distortion/paul westerberg), native
                              american artist ulali, and members of
                                atlanta indie bands smoke and
                            rock-a-teens. also on board are indigos
                            stalwarts jerry marotta (drums) and sara
                                         lee (bass).

                            we have a couple of video clips from the
                            studio with more info in the clips
                            section.

                            for all of you fans, there are several
                            ways
                                  to get in touch with the girls:

                                     fan club address:
                                     indigo girls fan club
                             315 w. ponce de leon ave., suite 755
                                     decatur, ga 30030
                                     ph:(770) 333-7040

                                           email:
                                      igfan@rcam.com

                            or you can post a message right now on
                                     their bulletin board.
***********************************


well, this is all by now!
pd: the info that i gave the last the day about the spanish sots
release was not completely right. when monica talked with epic
spain they said that they were not going to promote sots at all,
nothing, zero,... :(
----
our sots mini-review
monica and i agree that the best song in sots is sys by far. not only
is the best, but also the song that should be promoted in the
european market (well, i must be dreaming, or the coffe still has not
made an effect on me, if i'm still thinking on things like that).
btw, it's one of their all-time best songs.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"beat me up                |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv|      & monica soutto
to help me look for                |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"| universitat politecnica de valencia
       k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(..still spain but not for too
long)europe
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hey there igfans, its about 2:30am right now and i just got home from the ig
concert at msg tonight. i had a great time although the night did not go
exactly how i would have hoped. first, i have a bad cold so i am all stuffed
up and have a soar throat so no singing for me. second, we get to msg and i
park in one of the lots across the street and lose the ticket for parking
(very upsetting when you see 100 signs saying do not lose your ticket!!!).
so my friends and i quickly start looking for the ticket but we can't find
it and its about 5 minutes to eight. eventually i was like fuck it (hey, no
flames, if amy can say it, so can i!!) and we went inside but i was kind of
pissed because it was going to cost me an extra thirty bucks and i would
have to fill out some forms and it would be a big pain in the butt. anyway,
we get inside and i hear singing and i was like 'i will be soooo pissed if
they already started'. luckily they hadn't started, it was ulali opening for
them. ok, i am a big pro-ulali on the album person but i just couldn't get
in to their stuff tonight (during their opening i mean). it probably had to
do with me being in an annoyed mood and not feeling well but it seemed kind
of loud and not as nice as they sound together on the record (i suppose i
should get ready for heavy duty flamage!?!?) anyway, when we got to our
seats it was kind of disappointing that they were not so great (section 210
row e). in the end it didn't matter because we didn't sit there at all.
interesting note: friends of ours bought tix an hour before the show and got
better tix then i got through ticketmaster weeks before!!! the lady even
said that they were the best they had left. what is up with that!?!? anyway,
we ended up moving lower down and we had to keep moving because people
claimed their seats. eventually we spent the whole show either in the aisles
or sitting on the steps (i hope i wasn't standing in anybody's way). because
of all the extenuating circumstances it took me a while to get up and dance
but eventually i did and had a great time.
random notes:
-i really love the new album and even my not-so-favorite songs on the album
sounded amazing tonight live!
-i didn't hear much talking around me and didn't notice anybody being rude
or anything so i was wondering if anybody picked up on the more-casual-fans
reactions to the new stuff and the night in general.
-really cool that someone did their research on the msg speech about
european jewry and stuff that happened there many years ago. great intro to
this train revised-that song is powerful and hearing it live tonight with
the speech and the personal meaning it has to me literally gave me chills.
-scooter boys is one of my favorites and every time i hear it on the album i
feel like amy should have made it longer-which she did tonight with that
extra verse-very cool! (i did miss michelle malone's part though, i love the
way she sings "virginity"
-bury my heart at wounded knee rocked!!!!
-nice surprise when joan jett came out and did crimson and clover. loved how
amy and emily harmonized on that song! (guess they've been practicing since
last summer at roseland-not that i thought they were bad but they themselves
apologized to joan for 'messing up her song' or something to that
affect-anyone rememeber!?!?)
-who was that woman that came out for closer to fine and just kind of stood
near amy?
-overall, an incredible show. my feelings for the indigo girls and their
music is literally indiscribable. they and their music have had such an
impact on my life in the two years since i was introduced to them. i wish
they had played forever tonight!
i apologize for making this so long but i had to share! i thank anyone and
everyone that read this far and would love to hear any and all thoughts
about what i've said. thanks again-dave
p.s.- just read one of the interviews that someone posted which said that
during their year off they didn't talk much and didn't see each other. i
honestly was shocked for a minute. i can't imagine them being like that. not
that it is a bad thing at all but i just get the impression that they are
such good friends that even while apart they would call each other once a
week and be like 'hey what's up?  hope evrything is good. ttyl', ya know??
its really not a bad thing though its just that i was surprised.
p.p.s-can't wait for vh1 taping tomorrow night!!!!!

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some time ago, i scanned this article from the record collector and
i sent it to carolyn to be added to the lifeblood site. it's supposed
to be there yet, but i believe that most of you haven't senn it.
(sorry but it's a bit long)
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article from record collector
sept.1995 nº 193, pages 130-132.

indigo girls

neil hunt profiles the cult duo whose earliest releases
have been fetching astonishing prices in the states


the recent u.k.--only release of "4.5-the best of the indigo girls",
came at the end of a year on the road for the atlanta-based duo of
emily saliers and amy ray, culminating in a main-stage appearance at
this year's glastonbury festival. 1995 also marks the eclectic
singer-songwriter duo's tenth year as recording artists, and the
twentieth of their friendship. it may finally raise the profile of a
band who have been unjustly overlooked in britain, despite great
success -and cult collectability- in their native america. the duo met
in 1975 when emily was 11 and moved down from  connecticut to georgia.
at elementary school, she  came across 10-year-old amy, and the pair
became close friends, although they didn't begin playing music
together until 1981, when they were at high school. initally, they
called themselves the b-band ("after something rude"), and their first
tape, "tuesday's children", was recorded that year, comprising mainly
cover versions, though with an original song from each of them. even
at this early stage, when they were in their mid-teens, the girls'
intricate acoustic guitarwork, caramel harmonies and poetic
songwriting -the  prime ingredients of their modern work- were in
place. "i can't think of another group right now that has the same
kind of combination," says emily, trying to explain the mercurial
blend of voices and personalities. "i'm much more mainstream in
sensibility, more pop, not as much edge, roughness and things."
certainly amy's influences, the pre-grunge of husker du and neil
young, are far removed from emily's heroine, singer-songwriter joni
mitchell. "we write individually", explains amy. "we just have
different styles of writing. our vocabularies are so different: mine
is probably a little more abstract, emily is more of a narrative
writer! we tried writing together once. it was a terrible song: we
stole all these bob dylan lyrics. we were even going to call the song
'blood on the tracks' at one point!" away at different colleges in the
early-to-mid 80s, the girls spent the next four years playing solo and
as a duo, saliers and ray until they both ended up transferring to
emory university in atlanta. there  they made a lasting commitment to
perform together, settling upon the name indigo girls. "i found it in
the dictionary," says amy, "i just thought it was catchy." "it's blue
and it's deep, i think it has a ring to it," emily adds.

     in love
in 1985 they released a 7 single, "crazy game", on their own record
label, named after their high-school english teacher, j. ellis-lloyd
("we were both in love with him . . . he probably threw it away!").
they sold copies at gigs and outside the students' union.
subsequently, they used the same label to issue an album, "blue food".
mostly recorded live at the dugout, in atlanta, it contained otherwise
unavailable original material, that any fan of the indigo girls'
subsequent work would find intriguing. in particular, emily's achingly
beautiful "untitled song" is one track on the record that still cries
out for a wider audience. around the same time, amy recorded a solo
album, which she circulated amongst fans and friends. its contents
were very melancholy, and quite different from her usual hard-edged
style. only one composition, "nashville," ever appeared outside this
thirteen-track collection -which, like most of their early work,
deserves to be compiled into a retrospective that would cause the pair
no embarrassment whatsoever. emily and amy reverted to the duo format
for their next release, a self-titled six-track 12" ep produced by
frank french of the band drivin' and cryin', which showed a musical
development through its contributions from local performers dede vogt
and joan white. a beautiful acappella rendition of sibelius's
"finlandia", also featuring singers michelle mallone and caroline
aitkin, was one of three tracks from this set which were included on
later u.s. epic singles. in 1987 john keane produced "strange fire"
which mainly reverted to the strict duo format of "crazy game" -which
was re-recorded for the album, along with "land of canaan"  from the
12" ep. echoing a regular spot in their live set, amy and emily both
took a solo song, singing "blood and fire" and "hey jesus"
respectively. the duo were still playing bars and clubs in and around
atlanta, and one night in 1988 michael stipe from rem attended a show
and "asked if we'd write and record a song with him for peta (people
for the ethical treatment of animals)". "i'll give you my skin" was
debuted when the trio performed a ragged set at the athens music
festival  that year. their impromptu repertoire also included material
from the "green" and "indigo girls"  albums, plus rather shambolic and
forgettable cover versions of "midnight train to georgia" and
"summertime" amongst others.

        dividends
the stipe connection paid more dividends when the singer also appeared
on the indigo girls' self-titled debut album, reprising "kid fears",
one of the more succesful collaborations from that live show. the
record was produced by scott litt who had also handled  rem's "green",
and backing on another track "tried to be true", was supplied by the
rest of that band, although the blistering lead guitar work, as on all
the "indigo girls" recordings, was emily's. for "closer to fine",
meanwhile which is still their most popular track (and was covered by
the wonder stuff), the girls were joined by hothouse flowers. "land of
canaan" was re-re-recorded, augmented by bass and drums to great
effect, whereas the re-recording of "history of us" from the ep
actually lost out to the original version. "we wanted to capture our
live sound", said emily of the lp sessions. "we  recorded the songs
all the way through, the way we play them onstage." amy concurred: "we
were in two rooms when we recorded. we  played and sang at the same
time." the results had  a magical, fresh quality that proved
irresistibly commercial in the states and elsewhere. selling a
remarkable 1.8 million copies worldwide, "indigo girls" went on to win
a grammy for best contemporary folk recording, the first of five
nominations for the band to date. emily and amy went out on tour as an
unadorned duo supporting rem and 10,000 maniacs as weil as headlining
some sell-out appearances of their own, and performing on one of the
first 'mtv unplugged' programmes. one hometown gig, at the little five
points pub, was documented on the "reverse-1 live" promo cd. a great
portrait of the girls in concert, its highlights included cover
versions of elton john's "mona lisas and mad hatters" and an acappella
rendition of paul simon's ''american tune". most of this material has
since been included on the first worthwhile indigo girls bootleg,
"history of us" - assuming you can find one that actually plays
properly . . . the duo's shows at the uptown lounge in athens, georgia
on august 30/31 1989, were filmed for their only home video release to
date, showcasing songs from both "indigo girls" and "strange fire"
plus a version of bob dylan's "all along the watchtower" michael stipe
made a not entirely unexpected cameo appearance for "kid fears". as a
measure of the group's popularity, the only other epic artist granted
a full-length video release at that time was michael jackson. in
september 1989, the 1987 lp"strange fire" was re-released with an
altered tracklisting, which saw a newly recorded cover of the
youngbloods' "get together," replacing "blood and fire" (which itself
had been re-recorded in an almost identical version for the (indigo
girls album) and "high horse" ("i hate that song," emily explained,
"it's one of my worst."). when it was time for a fully-fledged new
project, scott litt was recalled for the sessions that produced the
next album, "nomads-indians-saints", but this time the rem connections
were kept minimal, with  only peter buck making an appearance (on
"world falls"). instead, guest musicians included mary-chapin
carpenter, who supplied  harmonies on the wonderful "southland in the
springtime" and the lead track "hammer and a nail", and local band
ellen james society, who also cowrote "123" with amy. although
"nomads-indians-saints" was by no means a bad record, it suffered a
little from comparisons with its excellent predecessor, as amy
admitted later: "we stuck to a lot of patterns that were similar  to
the first album. we didn't grow hardly at all." another live release
revived the duo's momentum. the ellen james society guested once again
on "indigo girls live -back on the bus y'all", reprising "123" and
bettering rem on "tried to be true" in fact the eight-song ep only
suffered from not being a full-length album, as the indigo girls seem
to be one of those bands who always come across better in front of an
audience than alone in the studio. having moved away more from the
strict duo shows, emily and amy were also joined by sara lee (ex
b-52's), who had played on "nomads...", drummer simone simonton and
saxophonist barbara marino.

         ambitious
retaining sara lee, and calling up producer peter collins
(queensryche, musical youth) and jerry marotta ("he's played with
everybody!") on drums, the indigo girls cut 1992's "rites of passage",
which stands as their best and  most ambitious album. the lead single,
emily's "galileo", featured guest vocals by jackson browne and david
crosby, while other guests on the album included vocal trio the
roches, banshees budgie and martin mccormack, and talvinde singh.
michael kamen orchestrated the haunting "ghost", probably emily's best
song to date, while amy's solo cover of "romeo and juliet" was filled
with all the emotion missing from the dire straits original. again
touring as a duo, the girls' set at the radio and records convention
in los angeles was issued on a collectable promo cd. spotlighting the
new album, it also included an exquisite traditional song, "the water
is wide". at the 1992 newport folk festival meanwhile, amy and emily
performed with mary-chapin carpenter and joan baez as the 'four voices
in harmony'. the last shows of the tour saw them opening for the
grateful dead at their concerts in eugene, oregon. after a hard-earned
rest -"our first in, like, five years"- work on "swamp ophelia" began
towards the end of 1993. peter collins co-produced the album with amy
and emily this time, and jerry and sara were again the core backing
musicians. building on the style of the previous album, the
arrangements and instrumentation became more complex, as the girls
described: "it's kind of a free for all, kitchen sink creative
process- we had players play instruments they were not necessarily
virtuosos on." the first song from the sessions to be aired in the
states,  "touch me fall", was a departure for the indigo girls, as it
marked the first time they both swapped their acoustic guitars for
electric. (note that the australian cd singles of this track include
three acoustic mixes unavailable on any other releases.) "least
complicated", chosen as the commercial single on both sides of the
atlantic, presented a more familiar sound, while the eye-catchingly
original video went into heavy rotation on vh-1. the 'swamp ophelia'
tour started off with amy and emily performing alone but, as on the
previous trip, after five months sara lee and jerry marotta joined the
band, providing a fuller sound better suited to their recent material.
the tradition of each singer having a  solo song per show was dropped,
however, simply because of the lack of any new solo material. for
example, emily had been performing "fare thee well," the album's one
solo track, for over a year before it was recorded (the song was also
covered by david crosby around this time, incidentally).

          weird stuff
shows at london's shepherds bush empire theatre were recorded and
filmed, and some gigs on their u.s. spring tours of 1994 were also
taped for a live album. "it's gonna have some really weird stuff in it
. . . it's gonna be like a show", the duo promise. such is the wealth
of excellent material performed that only a double cd would do the
shows justice. fifty minutes from the shepherds bush show was shown on
bbc1 in july, but the whole gig deserves official video release. the
girls took time out from their touring to take part in a new recording
of the andrew lloyd-webber musical, 'jesus christ superstar'.
interestingly, whilst emily was cast as mary magdalene, the part of
jesus christ went to amy, a role she fulfilled excellently, with her
passionate vocals proving to be perfect for the part. the resulting
album was released in support of gun control laws, on amy's own record
label, daemon. it also featured other daemon acts such as big fish
ensemble (whose michael lorent produced and organized the project),
lay quiet awhile, and many other atlanta-based artists, including
gerard mchugh and kelly hogan. the second single from "swamp ophelia"
in america was "power of two", which was featured in the film 'boys on
the side' starring whoopi goldberg and drew barrymore. the indigo
girls also appeared as themselves in the movie. recorded for the film,
but unfortunately left on the cutting-room floor, was a whoopie/indigo
girls collaboration on "walk on the wild side". along with the
promised live album, the rest of 1995 brings appearances on a rock for
choice cd, "spirit of '73", where they perform "it won't take long".
the song's composer, ferron, joined the duo onstage for some april
shows in the states. "watershed", a compilation video, is also due -
or overdue, in fact, as it's been delayed for nearly a year so far. it
features a new version of "finlandia", as well as all the girls'
promotional videos. unfortunately, it seems likely that the video and
the live album will be confined to the states, a fate which has
befallen all too many of the indigo girls releases: not even the four
basic albums from which "4.5" culls its tracks are available readily
in britain. both epic records and the indigo girls' cult following
will be hoping that the compilation album will widen their audience,
and expose the public at large to one of the most intriguing acts of
the 90s. either way, the duo's plans are set in stone, as amy reveals:
"we're taking like a year off the road completely. we're not going to
do anything. i mean, we really need this break. it's probably a really
stupid career move, but who cares?"


        indigo girls discography

cat.no.                         u.s.-only releases 1981-1987
                current
                                                       mint value(£)
unicorn (no cat. no.)   tuesday's children (private cassette, as the b
band, 1981)     150+ jellis a 1264              crazy game/everybody's waiting
(for someone  to come  home)
                 (7" p/s, 6185)                                                 40
jellis (no cat. no.)    blue food (cassette, 1985)
                150+ private release         color me grey (amy ray solo
cassette, 1985)                         150+ dragon path music lmmi  indigo
girls (12" ep, p/s, 11/86; clear or black vinyl)        250/100 indigo
music lmmii      strange fire (lp, 10/87, clear or black vinyl)
                200/100

these items rarely surface in the u.k. at auction in the u.s., many of
them have been known to exceed these prices.

                      u.k. singles
epic 654907 7           closer to fine/history of us (7", 6/89)
                2 epic 654907 5         closer to fine/center stage/history of
us (12", 6/89)          4 epic 654907 2         closer to fine/center
stage/history of us (cd, 6/89)          5 epic 654907 8         closer
to fine/closer to fine (live) /mona lisas and mad
                 hatters (live)/american tune (live) (12", 7/89)
                        4
epic 655135 2           closer to fine/closer to fine (live)/mona lisas
and mad
                 hatters (live)/american tune (live) (cd, 7/89)
                        5
epic 658768 7           galileo/kid fears (7",10/92)
                2 epic 658768 4         galileo/kid fears (cassette, 10/92)
                2 epic 658768 2         galileo/closer to fine/tried to
be true/hammer and a nail
                 (cd, 10/92)                                                    5
epic 660209 2           i don't wanna talk about it/galileo (live)/jonas
and ezekial (live)
                 (promo only cd 4/94)                                           5
epic 660340 2           least complicated/dead man's hill
(acoustic)/mystery (acoustic)/
                 kid fears (cd, 5/94)                                           4
epic 662166 2           closer to fine/dead man's hill (acoustic)/mystery
(acoustic)/
                 rockin' in the free world (live, with k's choice)
                 (cd, release cancelled, 6/95; promos only)
                           5

                      albums (u.k. unless stated)
epic epc 463491 1/2     indigo girls (lp/cd, 7/89)
                        8/10 epic ek 45427              strange fire (us cd, revised
reissue, 10/89)                    10 epic epc 463491 1/2     indigo
girls (lp/cd, 7/89)                                             8/10 epic ek 45427
        strange fire (us cd, revised reissue, 10/89)
10 epic epc 4673081/2      nomads-indians-saints (lp/cd, 11/90)
                        8/10 epic epc 468415 2       back on the bus y'all (cd
mini-album, 9/91)                       10 epic epc 4713631/2      rites of
passage (lp/cd, 4/92)                                   8/10 epic em 57621
        swamp ophelia (us lp, individually signed,
   green or black vinyl, 5/94)                                          15
epic epc 475931 1/2     swamp ophelia (lp/cd, 5/94)
                8/10 epic epc 480439 2       4.5 the best of the indigo girls
(cd, 7/95)                      10

                        important u.s. promotional cds
epic esk 1670           reverse-1 live (1989)
                50 epic esk 2201        shades of indigo (music with interviews by
shawn colvin, 12/90) 20 epic esk 4632           club r&r presents an
acoustic evening with the allman
                 brothers band and the indigo girls (7/92)
                                120
epic esk 4864           three hits (cd single with 4 live tracks, 1993)
              15

                      important compilations (u.s. unless stated)
radio records lp 002    don 't eat out of dented cans (lp, includes
   "don't give up on me baby" & "walk away", 1987)                 30
columbia ck 46082       theodore: an alternative music sampler
                 (cd, inc. "kid fears [live], 2/91)
                        10
rhino r2 70772          tame yourself (cd, inc. "i'll give you my skin"
   with michael stipe, 2/91)                                            10
sister ruby sis 001     the times they are a changin' (cd, includes
   "tangled up in blue" with drag the river, 1991)                 10
arista ap 354179        deadicated (u.k. cd, includes "uncle john's
   bandit with show of hands, 4/91)                             10
red house rhcd 36       turn of the decade 1989-90, ben and jerry's
newport
   folk festival (cd, includes "american tune" [live], 10/91)      10
kbco kbco-c-02          the best of studio c volume 2 (cd, inc.
   "jonas and ezekials" [live], 12/92)                          15
blue plate bpm-005cd    the best of mountain stage live vol. 5 (cd,
includes "love's
                 recovery" [live], 5/93)
                                10
sony klds lk 53736      put on your green shoes (cd, includes "wild
wild party at the
                        loquat tree", 1993)
                                        10
epic soundtrax 474998 2 philadelphia (u.k. cd, includes "i don't wanna

   talk about it", 4/94)                                        10
99x/wnnx wnnx 01        live x for humanity (cd, includes "down by the
   river" [live], 6/94)                                         20
ktcz 97.1 fm ktczvol6   the cities sampler volume 6 (cd, includes
   "three hits" [live], 12/94)                                  15
kmtt                    on the mountain part 2 (cd, includes "power of
   two"[live],7/95)                                                     12
wxpn                    live at the world cafe vol. 1 (cd, includes 1 live
track, 8/95) 12 epic epc 480981 2       spirit of '73 (u.k. cd,
includes "it won't take long", 9/95)    10 knitting factory        out
loud (cd, includes "this train revised" [live], 9/95)       10 works
35828 01692 6

                      u.s. various artists projects featuring the
                      indigo girls
daemon 19004-2          not dead (yet) (by new mongrels, 1993)
                        10 daemon 19006 4          jesus christ superstar - a
resurrection (2-cd, 11/94)              15

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i'm a bit insistent, but i know that k's choice must be doing some radio
appearances and some of you in the states can tape it and set up a
good trade with me. i swear i'm a nice trader (but now i'm looking
only for k's choice boots).

                     fins a la pròxima (see you next time!, in catalan)

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"beat me up                |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv|      & monica soutto
to help me look for                |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"| universitat politecnica de valencia
       k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(..still spain but not for too long)europe
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i was two seconds away from removing myself from this list, because reading
the thirty messages i was receiving each day about finding or selling or
trading a ticket to a concert or for a tape seemed like a pretty inane way to
spend my free time.

as i was copying the instructions on what to include in my "please remove me"
message, i heard, "you've got mail".  i thought...oh great, more ticket
requests for some state i've never even been to, so i opened the message, and
it was the first truly amusing and worthwhile message i've read in my 4 days
on this list. i felt some kinship with the person who wrote it, not in some
"follow them around until i die" way, but in a "these girls really make a
difference in my life way", like maybe someone else was here on this list for
the same reason i am.  i'm not sure how much longer i'll be on this list, and
probably a few of you are hoping i will leave soon, but not before i say why
i signed up in the first place.

the music of the indigo girls has become a part of me. it has inspired me; it
has made me cry; it has made me feel like the world isn't as bad as it seems
because i'm not alone (i'm among friends who try to see beyond the fences in
their own backyards). i love them both for their softness and for their
get-out-of-my-face or i'll pulverize you-ness.  i hope they know what an
impact they have made, i think it is everyone's dream to make so clear a mark
in the world as they have, and i don't think i'm the only one who has heard
their message. and i really hear it--every word, every whisper.

i won't be going to their whole west coast tour, but i live in san diego and
you know i was in line right when the tickets went on sale, and i will see my
one concert per tour, every time they are in san diego.  that's it, i'm going
to stay at least on this list at least awhile longer, because it's hard to
let go of something i had pretty high hopes for. to all the great spirits,
thank you for giving the earth this gift, amy ray and emily sanders, aka the
indigo girls.
kathy
p.s. anyone want to buy my san diego tickets???  just kidding.

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well,
here is ferran again,...well, i've kept on surfing and that's what
i've discovered. a sony promotion on not an addict, but
it's only in the states, so i can only pass you the info and pray
that one of you be so kind (if you can to take 1 copy for me
( i'll pay all the despenses and so...)so go for it!
the address is:
http://www2.music.sony.com/musicdb/ird
or directly:
http://www2.music.sony.com/musicdb/?mival=retail-artist


                     cuideu-se ( take care, in   catalan)

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"beat me up                |ferran nogueroles d'oliveira
and smash my brand new tv|      & monica soutto
to help me look for                 |    <maror@teleco.upv.es>
a little piece of paradise in me"| universitat politecnica de valencia
       k's choice-'paradise in me'
valencia, the valencian land,(..still spain but not for too long)europe
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date:         wed, 4 jun 1997 07:19:00 -0400
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from:         liz turcotte <lturcotte@star.net>
subject:      great woods concert radio boot tree

hi wednesday!

not like a have a whole mess of time on my hands, but i'm going to attempt
to make a boot tree. it'll be my first and all words of wisdom would be
appreciated!  the boot will include this friday's great wods concert in
mansfield, ma. however, it will not be your usual bootleg. the concert is
being boradcast on the radio, no commercials, no interruptions
(supposedly).  it'll be on mix 98.5fm, boston.  as i am not going to the
concert, and i don't even have cable so i am having a friend tape ppv for
me, i will be sitting by the radio taping ya'll!!  (so "na-na-na-na-na"
extra loud..you're on the air!)

anyone who would like a this boot, please e-mail me and give your snail
add.

anyone who has a clue to what i am about to do, please e-mail me, too. i
feel like i have my head in the sand and i'm going to mess everything up!

-liz-

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>i think it is everyone's dream to make so clear a mark
>in the world as they have, and i don't think i'm the only one who has heard
>their message. and i really hear it--every word, every whisper.


i wasn't going to do this, but... this note inspired me.
i do want to make a difference, this is why the ig touch me so deeply.

i am a phd student at mcgill, here in montreal.
i am in the middle of my two-part comprehensive exam.
then the only hurdle left will be the research for the dissertation.
the first opart of the comps went well
(given the typical sexist backlash i recieve anytime i submit anything!).
the second part begins at 9am eastern today, and lasts until 5pm friday.

when i was teaching my first university class, this past year,
my psych-up songs before heading into campus were worldfalls,
yes i am, and  thin line
(particularly the line- >with my confidence on fire...<).

i do research on gifted women,
and the affects the environment has on creativity.
i want to change the world, i want to make a difference.
but today, for some reason, i can't seem to get that confidence on fire feeling.
this is not like me, as i normally love this sort of thing. so...

this note is a request, that anytime durring your day, over the next three days,
think a positive thought for me.
for the first time in years, i feel i may need it.
thanks in advance kind frinds.

deb (who is only 5 days away from the montreal concert,
        and is a little distracted as a result)

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ok so i'm a chemist....... i admit it and thesis writing is taking its toll
:) in the attached document you will find some handy dandy info on indigo.
i'm posting this because someone asked if indigo was a spice a few days
ago.

indigo was i believe the name given to the colour of the plant, which was
in turn due to a certain chemical compound........ happy reading.

take care y'all
sharon

ps. jose your video tape is in the post.
pss. we give you the spice girls and you give us indigo girls...... what a
bargain :)

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sharon. a. jennings
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lisa said:

>i'd recommend ejs most highly.  although ejs broke up in 1993 and
>cooper seay, lead singer and guitarist of ejs, co-founded viva la diva,
>her old band ejs is really worth a listen.

for the record, chris mcguire was also in ejs, and her current band (still,
i hope) is mary fortune express.  i am a big chris mcguire fan, so i had to
mention this.   their last cd was _the immortality box_, and i love it.
chris's solo stuff is great too.

>the last song on the cd (god in heaven) features amy ray (who co-produced
>this album, btw).  ohmigod!!!!!  i've never heard
>amy rock so much.

there was a review in some atlanta paper at the time that made some comment
about "god in heaven" being evidence the amy should be singing rock and
roll.  i was listening to it recently, and i wondered if that reviewer has
heard the new stuff, and does she approve?  :)  i would agree, though, that
gih rocks more (or at least in a different way - more 'live') than the
studio versions of sots songs.  however, i think amy live rocks about as
much as possible these days.  (i am hoping for strong evidence of this
friday night. :)


:dwayne

dwayne jarrell (djarrell@ix.netcom.com)
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whose work went so slowly for the dullness of his tools that
he had not time to sharpen them."
- cormac mccarthy (_the crossing_)

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please note!!

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is infected with the concept macro-virus

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and sharon - you may want to get some anti-virus software!

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hey everyone!
    so last night i had the opportunity to see the rock*a*teens in
detroit...and i had an absolute riot.  unfortunately for them, it was a tuesday
night and not too many people from detroit have heard of them, so they were
very few people at the club... but my friends and i got to meet them and talk
and get drunk with them for about an hour and a half before their set.
    they were so nice!  kelly was a riot and so was chris lopez.  chris verene
(who plays drums for shed your skin) was so nice and we got some of their
his and kelly's adresses.
    they were tired and ready to go back to atlanta today after this solo tour
but all of them were so wonderful to us and very *un*-pretentious.  we had a
great time.  kelly is a total babe and we got to see a pic of her boyfriend and
her dog.
    overall, very much fun...
    just thought some r*a*teens fans out there would like to know...
    amy

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at 09:17 pm 6/3/97 -0400, amy s. tryon wrote:
>anyone know whether the gw show is being broadcast in the dc area? thanks-

media general (fairfax county, perhaps others) is showing it.  cable
companies in arlington and montgomery counties are not.

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at 07:37 pm 6/3/97 -0400, melissa <mmgst11+@pitt.edu> wrote:
>i was row 2, amy side!!  need i say more!! :)

this just made me laugh because i've always thought that if they ever
changed sides, i would be so distracted i'd never hear a word they were
singing! :)

i liked your reviews, melissa, i think it's beneficial (and more
interesting) to hear both the positives and negatives.

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date:         wed, 4 jun 1997 10:28:18 edt
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hi folks,

   there have been a few commonly asked questions in my email,
so i figured the answers would be useful for a much wider audience...

                                -- chris

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*  directions to great woods --

        from the gw www page (http://www.greatwoods/com/):

>       from boston: take i-95 south, to exit 7a-140 south, follow for 3 miles.
>       from worcester: take 495 south, to exit 11.
>       from providence: take i-95 north, to exit 6a-495 south, to exit 11.
>       from cape cod: take 495 north, to exit 10-123, follow 123 west to
>               140 north.

the www page also has a map.  gw is located in mansfield, ma -- which
is slightly to the northeast of the i-95 / i-495 juncture south of
boston (no one go to new hampshire please =)) in general, you can
follow the traffic *sigh*

* parking at great woods (from the www page)

>        the great woods facility contains 16 parking lots providing
> ample parking for all ticket holders with no additional charge. no
> specific lots are emptied first. be assured that we make every effort
> to ensure a safe and speedy exit from our facility.

[ednote: in fact the "lot" is a rather large grassy area. if you have a
                choice between vehicles, take the one with the good
                shocks =)]

* when do the festivities begin?  where will they be?

        the first wave of tailgating will begin shortly after 4:30pm
when the caravan arrives in the parking area.  that's only the first
wave -- we'll probably play lots of frisbee.  i'm expecting the second
wave to come in between 6 and 6:30 as people get off of work.  its an
open house thing -- come as you are, stay until you want to go hear
the openers (most of us have reserved seats).  we will make sure food
is left for the second wave.

        where will we be?  good question.  the parking nazis don't let
you filter in where you'd like to go.  you will be able to find us
though -- joni is working out the final details now and will post to
the list.

* am i welcome to just stop by for a few minutes?

        most definately!  the purpose of the tailgate is not to force
people into bringing a lasagna in from northhampton, but to have a
party and to meet people we've come to know on email.  some folks have
lawn seats and need to claim territory, others can't stay long for
other reasons.  come by, shake some hands, throw a touchdown pass, then
head off into the sunset to meet up with your friends.  it works for
us.

* what about bad weather?

        the concert is on rain or shine, of course.  if threatening
weather is in the area, joni and/or i will post our status to
igboston@palin.mit.edu and the full list by 2:00 pm.  that should make
sure that everyone will see the post by the time they leave work.

        the current forecast for friday (http://www.boston.com/)
is very good, if not on the chilly side. bring a sweatshirt!

>       friday: a beautiful day is expected. plenty of sunshine and
>       pleasant. passing fair-weather clouds. a seabreeze
>       develops along coastal locations. high temperature of 65 to 75,
>       warmest readings well inland. increasing clouds at
>       night. low temperature by saturday morning of 42 to 49,
>       warmest readings in the city and along the coast.

* what food types are you short on?

        we could use a couple more main dishes and side dishes --
thanks for asking!

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this is a good example of why you shouldn't post attachments to the li.st
besides the virus problem, most people don't have the facilities to decode
attachments, and many people have limited disk space which may be filled by
long messages (=messages with attachments.)
kirsten

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hello, all!  i recently attended the senior recital of my wonderfully
beautiful, talented and cool friend julie fiore.  she and i share an
affinity for indigo girls, and we often sing their songs together (being a
guy, guess which part i sing).

when i arrived at her recital, i was looking through the program at the
various composers listed.  there were the old standbys...mozart, sondheim,
some dead guys, and...saliers.

right smack in the middle of the recital filled with arias and broadway
tunes was wood song.  there, in her black formal dress, she hopped up on a
barstool, grabbed her guitar and went right into it, with the help of a
friend.  i'm not sure all the attendees were as fired up as i was, but it
was well-received nonetheless.

very cool.

justin

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a lot better if everyone put
little hats on their pet monkeys.

before that can happen,
everyone has to
get pet monkeys.

first thing's first.
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does anyone know if any atlanta stations will be broadcasting the ppv
concert, since so many other radio stations seem to be?
thanks
amy c.

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wow, i'm still on a total girls high.  the show was really great.  the only
complaint i have is that i was sitting behind eight girls who only came to
hear ctf and talked, passed notes, and got really plastered the rst of teh
show.  it was so hard not to leap over my seat and shake them to death!!!!!!!
but, i didn't let i truin my night.  i danced and sang until my voice was
gone (hey not too hard for me right now-i'm just getting over tonsilitis)
there were so many great moments that i just can't think of my favorite. i
thought the mix of ola/new was great and i was especially thrilled that they
played ghost and mystery (two of my all-time favorite songs).  but i have to
say that i am quickly being converted to an amy person.  god, she rocked and
i wept.

xoxo,
sarah

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at 01:27 am 6/4/97 -0400, j \"tigger\" kickliter wrote:
>does it scare anybody besides me to think about what might happen once that
>third record is done?

yeah, there's definitely more talk of their diverging paths, but i feel
very grateful for the ig collection i already have... if they were to part
tomorrow, it would be depressing, but i have so much great stuff already
that i could honestly just be pleased that they're doing what's best for them.

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at exactly 10:30 et this morning, vh1 showed the shame on you video. it was
played during their crossroads program.

start keeping an eye out for it!!

deanna

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ok, i know you're all dying to hear, so here's my thoughts on msg.  first
some comments on that which has already been said.

on tue, 3 jun 1997, david bacharach wrote:

> them. ok, i am a big pro-ulali on the album person but i just couldn't get
> in to their stuff tonight (during their opening i mean). it probably had to
> do with me being in an annoyed mood and not feeling well but it seemed kind


i'm with david on this. i love ulali on the album and i was glad to hear
them on backups throughout the show (though on batl, only jennifer could
really be heard from where i as anyway so that sort of killed the harmony)
but the opening set??  well, it's not that i didn't like it. i just don't
think msg was an appropriate venue for them.  and with all the people
still milling around, finding seats, etc., they just got lost.  i also
know that annoyed mood experience and how it can put a real damper on a
show.  two of the people i was with chose to skip the opening act all
together in favor of sitiing at a bar getting very, very drunk which made
for all sorts of 'interesting' experiences the rest of the evening.

as for the girls?  well, let me say this.  that which rocks rocked in a
big way last night.  what i mean is, the power band tunes.  (this was the
first show i'd seen with jerry and sara (the latter of whom does indeed
kick bass! and i was pretty pleased with what i heard))  sys, sb, bmhawk,
cio, this train - all of them awesome!


two somewhat negative comments- i thought mystery was a poor choice to
open with in a place that big.  i just felt like a bigger, upbeat,
everyone up outta your seats from the get go
attention grabber would have been more appropriate.  the other thing - the
guy on guitar, violin, bass clarinet, etc.?  jack of all trades he may be
but i was not impressed.


i wasn't close enough to comment on things like facial expressions as
indicators of how 'in to' the show a & e were but my seats were decent.
(thanks carlisle!)  the crowd was pretty good.  could have been a little
more receptive to the new tunes (it pains me not to see the entire place
dancing during sys.  i mean come on, if you don't dance to that one, what
are you waiting for?)  but on the whole, a good crowd.  met some very
friendly folks (as often occurs at ig shows) in the seats next to me.

lets see, what other random things should i mention?  i seem to recall two
broken strings for amy in case anyone counts that sort of thing.  one was
during chickenman i think and the other?  no i don't remember.  i was
diggin crimson and clover more tan i did at the roseland in august.  (i'm
assuming joan jett lives in nyc?)

two things i learned or sort of decided last night.  1.) while the show
was good, i can't help feeling the garden was just too darn big.  i don't
know that i'd invest significant $ in seeing them at a place that size
again unless i had insanely good seats.  (ok, who am i kidding, i'll
continue to go toany and all ig shows i can realistically afford and get
to regardless of the venue.)
2.) concert going companions.  several times now i've gone to ig shows
with people who weren't really fans.  if i can avoid it in the future, i
will.  when i'm at an ig show singin along with every single word and
dancing all night (and i'm not even a person who dances much at all),  i
want to be totally immersed.  i want everyone around me to be singing and
dancing too and to be at least half as enthusiastic as i am.  when amy
does something  with chickenman i've never heard her do before, when
emily plays a particularly sweet guitar lick, i wanna be able to turn
to the people i'm with and when i say "aww yeah!" i want them to understand
what i'm talking about.  i really don't wanna have caramia interupted for
a story of some girl this guy picked up at the concession stand.

speaking of caramia.  can i just say wow?  why yes, i can.  in fact i
think i'll say it again.  wow!

ok, this is rather lengthy and yet, not all that substantial.  but before
i go i have to gripe about one last little thing.  my friend's boyfriend
(he of the excessive drinking during ulali) won tix to the vh1 thing so
the two of them are going.  it just bugs me ya know?  i mean he hardly
even listened to the show last night!  what a waste of a ticket.

ok, i'm outta here.  for all of you seeing ig this week and the weeks to
come, have a hell of a good time.  i'm pretty jealous since it's looking
like this is gonna be the only ig show i catch this summer.  i'll have to
console myself with the ppv thing, a michelle malone show later this
month (which is not to say a mm show is a mere consolation prize), and i
do believe i read that caroline aiken is going to be on long island in
july so i'm hoping to go see her for the first time as well.


take care all.

          -colleen

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yep, the subject says it all -- i have one extra lawn seat ticket
(general admission, 30$). i'll be there a little early anyway to
make sure you get the ticket. the show is tomorrow (thursday june 5)
at 8pm. let me know sometime soon if you want the ticket.

hope to see all you east-coasters there!!!   :0)   trisha

ps jen -- i'll get in touch with you later when i know what time
we'll be getting there. hopefully we'll have a chance to hang out
pre-show!!

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sorry, y'all but i need both amys to write me- i've got tapes from each
and no email address for either.

sincere apologies!


karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
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at 11:22 am 6/4/97 -0400, deanna wrote:
>at exactly 10:30 et this morning, vh1 showed the shame on you video. it was
>played during their crossroads program.
>
>start keeping an eye out for it!!

crossroads is also on at 3:00 am (eastern and pacific time zones) so
provided they repeat the 10:30 broadcast there's another chance to catch it
later tonight. set your vcrs! (unless of course you're nocturnal like greg
flamer:)

deb

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okay. i already opened the file. my computer has something called
disinfectantinit or something like that. does that mean i'm okay? what is
going to happen to my computer. in case you can't tell, you got me a little
worried. finals are starting, and i can't exactly be without me computer.

please let me know.

thanks-
sari

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hi everyone, i don't usually post after-show comments but i had some
observations to share...

in a message dated 97-06-04 12:00:40 edt, cec8@cornell.edu (colleen caffrey)
writes:

> on tue, 3 jun 1997, david bacharach wrote:
>
>  > them. ok, i am a big pro-ulali on the album person but i just couldn't
get
>  > in to their stuff tonight (during their opening i mean).

>  i'm with david on this. i love ulali on the album and i was glad to hear
>  them on backups throughout the show (though on batl, only jennifer could
>  really be heard from where i as anyway so that sort of killed the harmony)
>  but the opening set??  well, it's not that i didn't like it. i just don't
>  think msg was an appropriate venue for them.  and with all the people
>  still milling around, finding seats, etc., they just got lost.

true, msg is a huge venue, but i don't think it would be any different at a
smaller one.  if anything, in a smaller venue, people moving around and
talking would be more distracting to an opening act.  it does increase
enjoyment, though, when you actually have seats and don't have to stand
during the opening act and worry about the general admission crowd rushing
you as soon as a&e take the stage.

ok, and what was the deal with the woman holding the illuminated phallus;) ?
was that supposed to mean something?  would someone please enlighten me?

and if you find the need to make out with your partner during chickenman, of
all songs, you really need to go get a room... :)

>  i wasn't close enough to comment on things like facial expressions as
>  indicators of how 'in to' the show a & e were

well i was (thanks v)!  they were really enjoying it and emily was staring at
the illuminated phallus with as much puzzlement as i was!  they weren't very
talkative, but i guess it's appropriate for the size of msg (in fact emily
made a comment at the beginning of the show about how 'not intimate' the
venue was).  i was surprising myself with my ability to guess what song they
were going to perform by what guitars were brought out.  not that i know
anything about guitars.  the two black ones were chickenman ;)

>  lets see, what other random things should i mention?  i seem to recall two
>  broken strings for amy in case anyone counts that sort of thing.  one was
>  during chickenman i think and the other?

if i remember correctly, it was during scooter boys, although i could be
wrong.

i couldn't stand up and sing along with this train because it's much too
powerful and disturbing a song for me so i just sat down in the midst of
screaming, singing, dancing, jumping people and stared at the stage.  i had
never heard it live before and it was very powerful.

all i can say about ulali is, girl can they sing!  all those glottal stops
can't be good for the vocal folds though;)  those notes they were hitting
(especially jennifer) sent chills up and down my spine.

the ringing in my ears has stopped but i still have the excitement of last
night in my bones....

have a groovy day,
sheri :)

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ok...for those of you not so fluent in computers, here is the background on "macro viruses."
a macro is as feature of newer word processing programs that allows you to automate common tasks. unfortunately, people have found ways to create macros that will attach themselves to any documents saved with that program.

how this affects anyone who opened the infected attachment:
   if you used ms word, or possibly ms outlook(not sure about outlook), and did not see a box warning you of a possible virus, you probably have it. if you used another program(wordperfect, notepad, claris) it should not be a concern.
  if you use word and think you have it, i would not distribute any documents electronically to people until you get the antivirus(available at www.microsoft.com  ... just search for "macro virus" or "scanprot")

any further ?s, mail me privately.

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on 06/04/97, at 11:22 am, sarikins wrote:

>okay. i already opened the file. my computer has something called
>disinfectantinit or something like that. does that mean i'm okay? what is
>going to happen to my computer. in case you can't tell, you got me a little
>worried. finals are starting, and i can't exactly be without me computer.
>
>please let me know.
>
>thanks-
>sari

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for those of us not there, could you please explain what this refers to?
someone gave a speech about something?

thanks,
alison

> -really cool that someone did their research on the msg speech about
> european jewry and stuff that happened there many years ago. great intr=
> o to
> this train revised-that song is powerful and hearing it live tonight wi=
> th
> the speech and the personal meaning it has to me literally gave me chil=
> ls.

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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i know it's been mentioned, but anyone who hasn't gotten it should bop on
over to tower records and pick up their free promotional magazine pulse
which this month has a big ig cover picture, a long article, and a big
picture with the article.  especially amy fans.

is there anywhere in the known universe that doesn't have tower or
doesn't get pulse distributed to it?  for some reason, i compulsively
grabbed 5 copies of the shrink-wrapped wonder when i got it.  now i'm
looking at them wondering what i was thinking of.

so, if anyone is living in pulse-deprived parts of the world - preferably
foreign parts or an alaskan weather research hut or something like that -
i have 3 or 4 copies that i could be induced to send to you, and the bins
at tower were full of them.

plus you get an always useful aol 50-free-hours disk, in case you're
running short on coasters...

alison
a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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hey all!!!

        in reply to a post awhile back which someone quoted about the state of
alabama.....
>this state has so many problems with things.  i know there are people on this list who
> live there and have to deal with the intolerance.  may i ask how the hell
> you live there without wanting to cry on a daily basis?    is there a way
> to push alabama into the gulf of mexico.  i am sure that if we all head
> down and do a 123 push it will just slide right into the water.  think of
> what we can do with all that space.  i mean we can make an indigo girls
> summer camp for chubby teens.  maybe we can open up the melissa etheridge
> gay recruiting/toaster giveaway center.  any other ideas?


ok!!  "it is a thin line between pleasing yourself and somebody else!!"
i love the indigo girls dearly, they are such talented musicians and
they have alot of personal love and dedication expressed in their music.
but come on!!, can't all of us get along???  i am a heterosexual male
and i am starting to feel a hatred vibe comming from some of the various
homosexual people on this list.
ok...
1) i know that this is not my place to say this but, since when did yall
become predjudiced against a  male-female relationships??  go on ahead
and tell me that i am the only hetero on this list, that is ok. i do
accept yall for the choices that you have made. but i do not agree with
hatred and selfishness.
2) i have been thinking about all of these things for along time, and i
just wanted to get them out, to a wide variety of the homosexual
community. so if i offend anyone or make anyone mad i am truely sorry
and i hope that you can understand where i am comming from and i hope
that i can better understand where yall are comming from....ok??:-)
3) i would like to take a pole of what all of yall think about
christianity?? i just want to know where yall stand?? what yall think
about it...ect??  again i am not comming here to save/convert anyone. i
just want to know, like amy says..."god will save me", what do you
think??

ok, now that i have quit numbering off.... i hope that no one is totaly
pissed off, if you are let me know and i will write you back with an
apology or something. i hope someone replys to my post and lets me know
what is going through your minds and hearts?. i hope that i do not sound
like an ignorant fool but i just had to spill it!:-)
love yall!!- brett patterson
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i was wondering if anyone has any bootlegs from either the spring tour or any
of the latest tour and would be willing to trade.  i was very lazy when all
the trees came out for some of the spring shows, so if anyone could help me
out, i would be grateful.

peace
sasha

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> > someone is loyal to a sister, football team, or lover.  hard-core fans are
> > known as indy-heads.  indigo girls didn't earn their fans overnight--they've
>
> hey, cool article!
> but i've never heard anyone called an indy-head.
> i'm certainly not an indy-head!  are you?....


*pointing and laughing* indy-head, indy-head....you are an indy-head!!!!!!!  ; )  just teasing...*smile*

jennifer w.

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oh my !

this post is not even worth a response.

amy

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hey y'all....

my former roomie's boyfriend threw away their ig tix, so they were
wondering if anyone had 2 lawn seats they wanted to sell.....

or, is pine knob even sold out?

thanks!!  please mail me privately with info....

peace, love and ig-
karrie

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jennifer told me that on saturday - i wanted to make sure you all knew...
*hoping someone taped hartford*
mike r.

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sorry for the lack of explanation. what i was refering to was before they
began this train revised, amy had a piece of paper which she was reading
from. it started like "on june ??, 194?, at msg, many people gathered to
hear something about the situation (?) of the european jews in ny(?). mayor
laguardia was in attendance..." something to that affect. i'm sorry it
sounds so sketchy, maybe someone else who was there remembers better.
basically it was about some big thing that happened at the garden, the very
place we all were at last night and it had to do with the european jews who
had been through the holocaust or something to that affect. it was a very
cool and interesting way to start this train revised and like i said, the
whole thing literally gave me chills. i hope this makes it at least a little
bit clearer.-dave

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>"go on ahead
and tell me that i am the only hetero on this list, that is ok."

nope brett you are not. i am a heterosexual jewish male. i don't know
exactly what you are refering to but i have been on the list now for about a
year and have never felt any hatred toward heterosexuals on this list. i
like to think that we do all get along. i am ineterested though in exactly
what you are refering to so if you could respond privately that would be
cool-dave

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hey y'all,

well, i couldn't type this up last night being that i got home at 2 in the
morning extremely sick and wanting to go to bed but here are some thoughts on
msg:
let's just start by saying...i was very annoyed at the crowd. i moved up
because i thought i had good seats but they turned oiut ot be not so good and
in the middle of leeds(one of my favs) some ass made me and my friends
move...and we were all the way up by the middle divider on the floor. after
that the rest of the show i wasn't really into it. the crowd itself was
mostly tennagers who knew nothing but galileo, least complicated, and closer
to fine and were talking during all of the other songs. i wanted to bash in
all of their heads.....instead i stood behind them and sang on the top of my
lungs into their ears all of the new songs...it was great. i danced up quite
a storm (me and deb).  well, i love the new stuff. i also went to the
hartford show last weekend and i noticed something kind of upsetting, it was
basically the same set list. they only changed 3 songs!! it got me a little
angry but i got over it quickly and made the best of it.
       sys, sb, caramia, dgtgag all rocked. i just loved watching amy go
crazy. i also now hold a strong affection for batl...ulali was awesome in
that one.
      ok, now for the little briefing on that wfuv 90.7 contest thing. i want
you all to know that i took the time to  help make a banner (and it did take
a long time) to try  and win these passes. it was looking pretty good in our
favor as rita said and then this lady walks in with a hat that says wfuv 90.7
and looks like it as made at a bar-mitzvah. needless to say, they fell in
love with it and gave them to her. i'm sorry if whoever that was is on the
list but i spent ours on my banner and after it was all said and done and
everybody left the concert, what do i find sitting on one of the seats
abandoned???? the bar_mitzvah hat!!!!! hava nagila hava nagila hava nagila
veh nismicha......well, anyway i spoke to rita from 90.7 and she said she's
try to have the girls sign my banner and send it back to me ( for all of you
who looked i was the one with the banner of the two dolls on it). pretty
cool.
        well, after our dissapointment we went to go catch our train (and
almost didn't get on). we got stuck sitting on this stump thing in the last
seat but managed to make the most of it by conducting an ig sing along of
sorts. it consisted of me and deb...go us!!!! we sang all of the songs we
wanted to hear but didn't, oh well. we arrived at our station at 1:30, got
into the car, put on some blood and fire, and out of deb's mouth come's a new
rendition of the song..... "butt and flyer". now you know how tired we really
were. a perfect end to the evening.
    if anyone out there has the boot to msg and hartford please let me
know..i'm dying to get my hands on them!!thanks for reading...sorry so long!

love,
ilana

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ok, the plan is revealed -- thanks for the patience folks.

joni wrote me:

> signage is all set.  jan is having a snoopy/woodstock flag at our
> caravan, and fran will put a sign on her bike telling everyone where
> we are...it will say "snoopy and woodstock....this way....."  people
> should look for us and if they can't find us, go to the motorcycle
> parking place and look for fran's bike...she's described it below.

and the motorcycyle desciption from fran:

> i'll put it near the speedometer, above the handlebars.  make sure
> everyone know that it's a big blue bmw touring bike with a tall
> fairing/windshield and saddlebags.  if they see where the bikes are
> parked, they'll see my bike!

so.... look for the snoopy and woodstock flag first.  if you can't
locate it, find fran's bike -- its pretty distinctive. specific
instructions to find us will be on the bike (take a left at the plaid
pinto).  if nothing else, walk up and down the isles of cars yelling
"indigonads".

then we'll find you..... =)

                                -- chris

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just got my tickets to lf at the world in tinley park (woowoo!). i
am so excited! i have, what might seem to some, a stupid question,
though. does lf also involve any kind of art show or something else
going on besides just the bands? it would seem to me that for such
a long event there must be food vendors or other kinds of things
going on as well. i was also rather disappointed when i found out
it won't be shawn colvin playing, but emmy lou harris. is she a
country singer or am i mistaken? hope y'all don't think i'm
completely dense now. *sheepish grin*

jen

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hey brett...
if you're really serious about wanting to know where we're all coming from,
take a listen to the "heart" of the music we all on this list have come
together to discuss + share info etc on. hatred of a group of people based
on their sexuality just isn't part of the package.
this list is made up of a lot of folks and we represent a great range in
age, religious, race + sexual identity. ( are the results of sherlyn koo's
survey still available? )
in a "community" of this size + variety, there's a lot of room for
differnce, and in posting sometimes people get a touch over zealous or even
silly  + say things that can be taken as the "bashing" of someone who is
differnt than themselves. i for one had a sig file a while back and was
suprised to be told that some viewed it as a "male bashing" statement (even
tho i was quoting robin williams who is, so far as i can tell, male ):-) i
removed the sig file + apologized to the list, in case i'd offended any more
who hadn't posted me.
anyway, on a list this size, with so many differnt folks posting + reading,
you're gonna get a few radicals... it happens in every community:-) what to
do about it? i dunno... just love the haters to death:-) you can't fight
fire with fire.
all my life i've been surrounded by hetrosexuals who felt it was okay to be
hateful + violent in their attitude etc towards gays. i refuse to stoop to
that leval now as an adult lesbian... it would be the same thing. that's
just me, personally though... i can't speak for the other gay + lesbian
folks on this list. although, it's not been my experience while a member (
for over a year now ) that there *is* a anti-hetrosexual bias...
ah well... "truth of the matter come around one day, so it's alright.."
hmmm... anyhoo...
peace, y'all, kim
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skin baby, let it through... come on over now... amy ray
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hello ig list folks:

i've seen two or so recent posts on the list looking for guitar tabs for ig
music. the largest and most comprehensive compilation can be found at the
following address for the on-line guitar archive (olga):

        http://www.harmony-central.com/guitar/tab.html

this, by no means, is an exhaustive list (since i've seen ig tabs that
aren't included, such as cedar tree, chickenman and girl with the weight,
on old email bbs's).

hope this can be of use!  pax vobiscum!

h keith aldridge
richmond, va

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i can't wate to hear the flames from this post.  this group does has a
tendency to be very off the cuff and is highly defensive to boot.  a great
person once said that people should be judged by the content of their
character.  in order for this to occur one must first listen to what they
have to say, accept their right to say and believe whatever they want, and
then logically and credibly attact the idea, not the person.  i wish that
this could happen more often.  unfortunately, i don't think that that will
be the case for a long time to come.

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in a message dated 97-06-03 11:13:14 edt, stu6361@westga.edu (amy cason)
writes:

<< on mon, 2 jun 1997, indigo skies wrote:

> am i the only die-hard fan that always gets concert seats that require
> binoculars, has never gotten amy and emily's autograph or had someone
> from ulali go backstage and get it for me, has never seen amy riding in
> a car on the way to a performance, doesn't have a friend that invites me
> along for an interview with amy and emily..............
> am i the only one,   or just the only one to admit that i am lacking any
> seriously cool indigo moments.    sigh........still hoping!
> deedee   <while tiny violins play>
> >>

nope, you are not alone. i have never seen a or e up close, no autographs,
never eaten in the flying biscuit, don't know anyone who knows anyone who
knows them....
sigh.

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in a message dated 97-06-03 16:42:18 edt, botany@juno.com (celeste pietrusza)
writes:

<<
>three proofs that jesus was jewish:
>1. he went into his father's business
>2. he lived at home until the age of 33
>3. he was sure his mother was a virgin,
>and his mother was sure he was god
>
>three proofs that jesus was irish:
>1. he never got married.
>2. he never held a steady job
>3. his last request was a drink
>
>three proofs that jesus was puerto rican:
>1. his first name was jesus
>2. he was always in trouble with the law
>3. his mother did not know who his father was
>
>three proofs that jesus was italian:
>1. he talked with his hands
>2. he had wine with every meal
>3. he worked in the building trades
>
>three proofs that jesus was black:
>1. he called everybody brother
>2. he had no permanent address
>3. nobody would hire him
>
>three proofs that jesus was californian:
>1. he never cut his hair
>2. he walked around barefoot
>3. he invented a new religion
>
>
>
  >>
uh, excuse me if i point out that this joke seems a bit racist to me.

karen
(german-polish-irish-jewish pentecostal christian lesbian)

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at 09:07 am 6/4/97 -0400, deb wrote:
>at 07:37 pm 6/3/97 -0400, melissa <mmgst11+@pitt.edu> wrote:
>>i was row 2, amy side!!  need i say more!! :)
>
>this just made me laugh because i've always thought that if they ever
>changed sides, i would be so distracted i'd never hear a word they were
>singing! :)

ya know...years ago when they played the little 5 points pub reunion show (
i'm 90% sure it was this show) at the roxy here in atlanta they actually
_did_ switch sides, much to my disappointment having already staked out
seats on the a side....

back to my regular scheduled lurking....


kat

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                 we still call it suicide?"
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                 without feeling you can't exist."
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at 07:42 am 6/4/97 -0500, roberto jordan wrote:
>lisa said:
>
>>i'd recommend ejs most highly.  although ejs broke up in 1993 and
>>cooper seay, lead singer and guitarist of ejs, co-founded viva la diva,
>>her old band ejs is really worth a listen.
>
>for the record, chris mcguire was also in ejs, and her current band (still,
>i hope) is mary fortune express.  i am a big chris mcguire fan, so i had to
>mention this.   their last cd was _the immortality box_, and i love it.
>chris's solo stuff is great too.

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it appears the mfe is no more
according to the folks who maintain their web site...*sigh* another good
band bites the dust....


kat

               "if i let you do it to me, can
                 we still call it suicide?"
                         - cooper seay

               "without love you can only resist,
                 without feeling you can't exist."
                         - melissa ferrick

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subject:      msg show and boot

this was the most amazing concert i have ever been too! (well, i haven't been
to that many...) my seats were okay, but during the show i was able to get up
and walk across the floor all the way to the barrier where the special people
sat. (how the hell does one get such good tickets anyhow?) so i stood up
there for a few songs, but then some really mean guy yelled at me to go back
to my seat where i belong:( anyway, the show was really great! both seemed
really into it and amy broke 2 string (during dgtgag and cut it out, i think)
she also added new verses to both chickenman and scooter boys. the other
really cool thing was that before this train, amy read a thing about a
protest organized by uja i think to protest the holocaust. there was a big
rally in 1942 in msg, so i guess they thought it was appropiate.
the only bad thing--the people sitting behind me were so drunk and just
stayed in their seats and yelled various obsecenities the whole time, and i
think the people sitting next to me were pissed off because i'm in high
school and talked about how immature me and my friends were. i'm sorry, but
it is fun to dance and scream(or sing) at concerts! anyway, it was also
really cool because i must have seen 15 people who i haven't seen in a long
time.
as for ulali, who opened, i thought they were really good as backup, but for
an opening act they weren't sp great. i mean, they weren't bad... but i think
msg was the wrong venue for them. it is huge, and ulali just kind of sat on
the stage and sang, while people were still coming in and stuff.
i'm not even gonna try to post the setlist, but if anybody has a boot of this
concert please please e mail me! and btw, msg had no security check
whatsoever, at least when i entered, which was around 7:15. in fact there was
so little security i was sure i was in the wrong place,
anna
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hey all,

just wanted to tell you something.  i was at the philadelphia zoo,
wandering aimlessly through the reptile house (usually my least favorite
part of the zoo, but we were there for a friend's birthday, and she loves
reptiles...)  anyway, i was sorta wandering around looking at the names of
the animals, and guess what i saw!?!?!  "indigo snake"!  pretty cool, i'm
picturing it shedding its skin...  :)

and, just for the hell of it:  for the record, i'm a heterosexual, an
atheist, a liberal, a pretty darn vocal feminist, a pretty darn vocal
supporter of gay rights, an ig fan, and proud of who i am!  (and by the
way, most of those things -- except the heterosexuality part -- are pretty
hard to be, at conservative medical school from hell!)

anyway, who's counting?  i just want to add that yes, god _will_ save amy!
(as if she needs it!)


adding to the wondrous variety of the indigo girls list,

deb the indigeek

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subject:      (nigc) gw boot offer!

ok, thank you for all you guys who called me a goddess. 26 times is now
officially my record. the standing record before was.....zero. = ) hehe.
ok, down to buisness.

please stop e-mailing me if you want the boot of the june 6th gw concert.
now only e-mail me if you would like to help me with the boot tree. i need
9 more people to help. so far, the victims of dubbing are:

cathy zavislak

caroline

jude


any and all who can help, please e-mail me will the subject line "victim".
thanks!!

-liz-(who thought she saw amy ray in copley place today and started
freaking out on the t)

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i don't get it brett, you from alabama?
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subject:      re: ig at msg (stream of consciousness type thing, long)

in a message dated 97-06-04 03:50:55 edt, you write:

<< scooter boys is one of my favorites and every time i hear it on the album
i
feel like amy should have made it longer-which she did tonight with that
extra verse-very cool! (i did miss michelle malone's part though, i love the
way she sings "virginity" >>


hey everyone-

   who knows what this verse was?  was it a stream of conciousness?  i loved
it and i'd just like to know what exactly i'm loving!!!  thanks.

~liz~  who's eagerly awaiting the pnc show tomorrow night!  woohoo!!!

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i don't remember anyone else posting this - i called westwood one in the
vain hope of finding an l.a. radio station that is broadcasting the great
woods simulcast.  ha.  the closest station was kfog in san francisco -
but hey, all you san franciscans can tape it and make copies and feel
superior about living in northern california.  right?

just another day in the cultural wasteland,
alison

a dog, a plan, a canal -  pagoda!                alisont@netcom.com

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in a message dated 97-05-31 11:02:47 edt, you write:

<< so i work third shift at a grocery store whose public address system is
controlled by our friends at musak.... :)  so, around 2:30 this morning, i
hear "closer to fine".  now, normally, i would be so terrified that i
would stumble around aimlessly, covering my ears and begging for it to
stop....however, the boredom of stocking cat food cans really got to me,
so i sang along. >>

now, this is really strange....chris and i were in the grocery store on that
same day and we heard galileo on musak!  what's going on!!!!!

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy behind on reading the mail,
c&r :)))

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hi list!

i've seen messages from a few of you talking about .wav files you're making
from sots, and i have a request... does someone happen to have this .wav
from sys : "hey holy console me some power control me remorse it i force it
can't free it so be it (repeat)" they could send me, or if you're recording
stuff, could you make one?  i'd be *ever* so appreciative!!

hopeful,

elena
elena@cruzio.com

p.s. berkeley show-goers, which seats did you get?  wondering if we'll be
near anyone from the list...

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>
> in a message dated 97-05-31 11:02:47 edt, you write:
>
> << so i work third shift at a grocery store whose public address system is
>  controlled by our friends at musak.... :)  so, around 2:30 this morning, i
>  hear "closer to fine".  now, normally, i would be so terrified that i
>  would stumble around aimlessly, covering my ears and begging for it to
>  stop....however, the boredom of stocking cat food cans really got to me,
>  so i sang along. >>
>
> now, this is really strange....chris and i were in the grocery store on that
> same day and we heard galileo on musak!  what's going on!!!!!
>
nothing unusual. muzak is the same everywhere...muzak(tm), that is, not generic
muzak.
kirsten


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;;proof."--anne haines | http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/ ;;no comment

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        hi y'all,

        just wanted to let everyone know that i'll be hanging out in front of the
reception center (which is the building to the right of the pnc center as
you face it from the parking lots) from about 6pm on...i'll be eating
dinner and trying to recover from a hectic work week...anyone else know the
feeling??

        so if you're going to be at the show and want to say hi...i'll be
there...look for someone wearing a blue north face backpack and holding a
coffee mug...i never leave home without it!!

                see you at the show!!

                        jen

ps  if i've been talking to you about a later meeting time...my schedule
changed...surprise!!!

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subject:      amy's eyes look mighty cool...

on the cover of pulse! their is a great pic of ig, and i don't know
what they did to the girls eyes but they look soooooo cool, especially
amy's!  the great thing about the pics in pulse! is that they aren't
air brushed to death like the target promo picture.  i like the girls
just the way they are, blemishes and all, they are musicians (unlike a
lot of people that i know of with albums out) not beauty queens!
    leah

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hey y'all,

sorry for the second post but i was delirious when i wrote the other one and
forgot to mention a few things......
#1 bubble girl - whoever you are i saw you!!!!! i wanted to go say hi because
i knewthat you were from the list from the hartford show but some idiot (aka
a security guard) felt the need to check my ticket therefore forcing me back
to my seat.
#2 what was the deal with that girl on the stage during closer to fine? from
the list? are you out there?
#3 russel carter - has his secretary return my phone call saying that he was
busy and then he shows up on stage playing a lousy guitar..oh boy russ..learn
the chords to ctf
#4 is it just me or is joan jett the long lost twin of no one other than our
own sara lee.....notice the resemblance: spiked hair (granted - different
colors), open tummy's , and tight leather pants......cute, very cute
#5 i loved how something was wrong with em's guitar in the beginning of ctf
and amy started on mandolin....it got the crowd saying "huh? what is this?"
and thenwhen em came in they were like "ctf! yes i know this one!" also when
that girl came on stage to sing i thought it was so cute that amy got pushed
away basically from her own mic and ran to em's. great picture moment.

well, that's it for now....if i remmeber any other great moments i'll be sure
to let y'all know!

goodnight,
ilana

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>
> on the cover of pulse! their is a great pic of ig, and i don't know
> what they did to the girls eyes but they look soooooo cool, especially
> amy's!
you're kidding, right? in the cover picture of amy, her eyes exhibit what's
known as the red-eye effect. it means she was looking directly into the flash,
and is considered something that should be corrected.
kirsten

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hey y'all

> am i the only one,   or just the only one to admit that i am lacking any
> seriously cool indigo moments.    sigh........still hoping!
> deedee   <while tiny violins play>
> >
it's kind of gratifying to know i'm not alone, since so many of you seem to
have these very cool indigo moments!  this girl's just a plain old fan with
absolutely no connections.

very glad i signed up after only 2 days,

bonnie

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subject:      in regards to alabama (sigc)

hey list members!

        well i had to laugh at ol' "greg flamer's" post!...alabama has
racism, as do all other places i've ever lived in...i lived for most of
my life in a small town in alabama, and i've had to deal with intolerance
as one of the only then, and now the very few asians in the town...i
consider it my home and i miss its beauty (physically, and to a lesser
extent, emotionally) when i'm gone...there is a rare liberal in there at
times, but when we're in action, we stick out <smile>...for instance, i
heard that ig was seriously in demand at auburn when they peformed,
"despite" their gayness...i was pretty psyched to hear that !...i mean
it's a small move, but it's one in the right direction....so let's deal
with prejudice, whether racism or heterosexism or sexism, wherever we are
(alabama and non), cuz ol' ig wouldn't have it any other way <smile>...

ps sorry for the small ig content...

~~~~~activism~~~~~~~equality~~~~~~~~peace~~~~~~
jenny korn
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to start this off, i am a white jewish heterosexual female. for some
reason, i have had a lot of exposure to/friends who were gay men, but very
few lesbian friends. (and forgive me if i don't use the "pc" terms or
whatever, okay?). that's one of the things i find so fascinating about this
list, and what makes me want to stay one ven though it gave my poor
computer a virus(joking...well, not about the virus). anyway, i have never
felt any sort of hatred towards heterosexuality- maybe some
well-intentioned jokes, and some frustration occasionally, but nothing
inappropriate. rather, i find this list to be excellent in giving me a
viewpoint i'd never gotten before.

just my $.02-

sari

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at 01:44 pm 6/4/97 -0700, you wrote:

>        in reply to a post awhile back which someone quoted about the
state of
>alabama.....
>>this state has so many problems with things.  i know there are people on
this list who
>> live there and have to deal with the intolerance.  may i ask how the hell
>> you live there without wanting to cry on a daily basis?    is there a way
>> to push alabama into the gulf of mexico.  i am sure that if we all head
>> down and do a 123 push it will just slide right into the water.  think of
>> what we can do with all that space.  i mean we can make an indigo girls
>> summer camp for chubby teens.  maybe we can open up the melissa etheridge
>> gay recruiting/toaster giveaway center.  any other ideas?

>but come on!!, can't all of us get along???  i am a heterosexual male
>and i am starting to feel a hatred vibe comming from some of the various
>homosexual people on this list.

i do not feel that the post was a "hatred vibe" towards heterosexual males.
rather, it is an outcry against the bigotry (be it sexual, religious,
ethnic, etc.) which the *state of alabama* is widely known to condone.  :o
-erin

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as a heterosexual, 26 year old female, i have seen (in the few months i've been part of this list) absolutely no evidence that there is any hatred, dislike, even distaste for heterosexuals.  there is a lot of talk about relationships...both hetero- and homosexual.  if the person who felt that heterosexuals were disliked feels this way, then perhaps he/she should examine him/herself to find out why.  i don't know...maybe the fact that gay and lesbian people feel free to discuss their relationships makes this person uncomfortable...and their happiness is seen as a rejection and dislike of heterosexuals and their relationships.  hmmm...toughie.  anyway...i certainly don't feel disliked, and i hope no one else feels disliked by me...i would be very upset to find that so.  take care.  = )

jennifer w.

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hang in there, kiddos.  i have been a fan since 1989.  i had seen them in concert twice.  both times at the starplex in dallas, both times a million miles away...you know...the seats where no one stands up to dance?  it was not until this year, when they played a smaller venue in my hometown!!!!!  *woo hoo* , that i was able to get seats in the 5th row...and then make my way around to the venue exit to see them leave, and actually talk to emily.  *sigh*  = )  i didn't get the set list, pick, or any other thing left on stage that night...because i'm too short, and they all went to tall people.  = (  patience...hope...perserverance.
; )

jennifer w.

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subject:      re: hetrosexuality disliked on the ig list??

>>brett patterson wrote:
> i would like to take a pole of what yall think about christianity?  i just
want to know where yall stand??  what yall think about it...etc??  again i am
not coming here to save/convert anyone, i just want to know, like amy says
"god will save me", what do you think? >>

how about   ** goddess will save me **   --but, personally i don't believe in
having to be saved.  (just my opinion, no flaming please!!)  or even better
how about,
like amy says:
" i'll be the first to praise the sun,
  the first to praise the moon,
  the first to hold the lone cyote,
  the last to set it free  " --amy ray

--and remember, you wanted to know
--peace, trish

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hey all

due to unfortunate circumstances my pal who i planned on going to saratoga
with is now unable to go.  her friend was going to be the third person (i
have 3 tickets).  i won't find out if the friend still wants to go with me
until tomorrow (thursday).  and, i'm not sure if we can find a third person
to go.  i can't see myself driving 6-7 hours by myself to go, or even
driving that far to go with complete strangers.

so, i may have 1, 2 or 3 tickets available.  i thought i'd post this now, so
that if i do need to sell the tickets it gives me enough time to check email
tomorrow and courier the tickets to the potential buyer to get there by
saturday a.m.  the tickets are $30 each (what i paid) and are in section 9
box seats.

email me if you have a solution and/or want to buy some tix.
thanks
lori


"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
                                            rem

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my thoughts on christianity:
i too will use the number system
1)  i grew up christian and i am still christian.  but lately not attending
mass b/c of lack of interest in the sermons.
2)  i don't think homosexuality has anything to do with religion.  that is my
personal opinion.  if anyone else has another opinion i will be happy to hear
it.

why do i feel like i need to defend myself ?  what kind of sick demented
world is this?  opressed people become opressers!
love you all,
-stine(christine)-

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> you're kidding, right? in the cover picture of amy, her eyes exhibit what's
> known as the red-eye effect. it means she was looking directly into the flash,
> and is considered something that should be corrected.

actually red eye occurs when you look directly into the lens.  the retina
reflects the light from the flash directly into the lens then. when you
find a camera with "ed eye reduction" what that means is a little pulse
of light goes just before th flash, shutting down the retina and removing
the reflection factor.  or, just have them look slightly up from the lens.


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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
the original photo monk      \ /                --patty larkin
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ok tonight  i'm in a mexican/steakhouse kind of restaurant, chowing down on
cajun shrimp penne and i hear, yes it is, shame on you, on their music
system! (and, not just instrumental muzak, the real mccoy!)  this was near
toronto (the place where we had to email the radio to play some ig).

so, of course i asked the waitress what was up with the muzak system
(thinking either someone working there had great taste, or the radio
stations were finally waking up) and she said it was some sort of sattelite
system that the restaurants pipe in, and that there are a few different ones
with different formats that they can chose for various occasions.  so, maybe
soy is available to all restaurants!

i guess they picked the great station this evening (perfect for a
celebration of my fiance and me finding our first "home" to rent together -
yay us!)

just had to share
lori


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at 11:31 pm 6/4/97 -0400, trish wrote:
>>"god will save me", what do you think? >>
>
>how about   ** goddess will save me **
<clearing throat > achem... uh... i'll do my best where ever *i* can, just
fax me the specifics ( or e-mail me )... as for those other goddesses, i'm
sure they're up fer the job....
peace... goddess kim (cough choke )
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skin baby, let it through... come on over now... amy ray
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in a message dated 97-06-04 22:26:04 edt, :

<< i was also rather disappointed when i found out
it won't be shawn colvin playing, but emmy lou harris. is she a
country singer or am i mistaken? hope y'all don't think i'm
completely dense now. *sheepish grin* >>

in case you missed brian's comment on her, emmylou harris
is the real thing !!! that is, she is pure bliss and music !!!

i suppose you could say she is a country artist, but she is much more...
american music at its finest.
she's the 'queen of the silver dollar' :)

yes indeedee !
claire

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hey fellow igfans, just got back from the taping and wanted to let you all
know how it went. ok, because it was gen. admission my friend and i got
there at about 7:15-30. the tickets said doors open at 9 and the taping
starts at 10-the tickets were wrong!! someone named jon foggerty (?) was
taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in. once inside
the set was pretty cool and my friend and i were standing on the floor and
so we were pretty close up. it was a great setting for an ig concert. it
didn't last that long (not nearly as long as we waited but who cares...its
the ig!!) but they played a bunch of new songs and then galileo (i'll let
someone else post the set list). when they were setting up the piano amy and
emily took questions from the audience which was really cool! (i'll let
someone else post the questions). ulali was there with them tonight and they
were great. the sound was really good and overall, despite the length of
time they were actually on stage, it was really cool! -dave
p.s.-when they first started with shame on you they started for about 30
seconds and then just stopped because something was wrong with the sound on
amy's guitar. it was interesting. i think emily said something like
"something is in the air tonight'.

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hey kind friends~

        most ig listers i have met say that i'm a more obsessive ig fan than
most (no argument there!! ;)
        i've long believed that homosexuality is one of the many remaining
unfair prejudices existing in our society.  i proudly say though, that some
of my *very best* friends are gay and in fact, they tend to be friendlier
and more down-to-earth than the public at large :)
        (an aside)  in decatur, i've never seen a more open society.
"gayness" is so open there that it seems completely normal, as it should
be!!  as emily says, "truth of the matter come around one day".  in the
meantime, head to decatur! ;)
        my only gripe about being a straight indigo fan is that "when the
beautiful ladies walk right by" i_never_ have *anything* to say because
(almost) all of them are gay! :o
        maybe a sex-change operation is in order :o

tonette~
the chickenwoman ;)

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in a message dated 97-06-04 21:03:24 edt, bf19583@binghamton.edu (david
bacharach) writes:

<<
>"go on ahead
and tell me that i am the only hetero on this list, that is ok."
  >>
i'm a hetero, jewish female.  i can't say that i've felt any anti-hetero
sentiments from this group.  i think this is a forum where people feel free
to express whatever is on their mind.  perhaps, you aren't used to being
around many homosexuals and because there are many people on the list who are
openly gay, you're feeling a little paranoid.  i don't mean to disregard your
feelings, i'm just wondering if you are reading a little too deeply into the
messages.  to me, the music of ig transcends labels, and despite some minor
disputes on the list, for the most part i tend to think everyone has a pretty
good heart.  also, what does your question about christianity have to do with
this?

dena

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in a message dated 97-06-04 20:14:45 edt, brett writes:

<< 1) i know that this is not my place to say this but, since when did yall
become predjudiced against a  male-female relationships??  go on ahead
and tell me that i am the only hetero on this list, that is ok. i do
accept yall for the choices that you have made. but i do not agree with
hatred and selfishness. >>

uuuuhhhh...... i must have missed the post(s) that was(were) predudiced
against m/f relationships........ unless you are inferring that the mere
presence of visible and vocal gay folk is tantamount to hetro-hate ?
but surely you don't mean that because it's just not a valid argument.

it seems to me the post was about the antic's of the "pro family"
group that was up in arms about those darn lesbos (our beloved ig)
playin' at the high school.
but i must say there is no need to push alabama into the gulf, there
are nice people there too :)

no need to get yur feelers hurt !
:)
claire
p.s. did you guys know that in the early days of america, evangelical
christian groups were radical social reformers,active in abolition and
the underground railroad and considered a threat to the ruling classes
(who had a tendency to infiltrate and dilute the egaltarian message of
'threatening' working class coalitions) ?
.... interesting .

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wait!!! dena, you are mixing me up with brett! my post was a response to
what he said, i just copied it from his post!!!-dave

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ok ok!!:-)!

i thank all of the listees who gave me insight and i replyed to the
"good" ones!:-) but just an overview which many people stated, i guess
hatred would be alittle extreem, i guess the whole post of that dude was
just the spark that lit the fire, i mean i could not just sit back and
not say anything. i know that yall, as in homosexuals, joke around about
"inside stuff" just like we do, i mean what was the whole movie
'birdcage' for:-)!  whoa!! before anyone explodes, just a joke!:-)
see i can do it too:-)!!  anyway! ummm!  but i just wanted to resolve it
by saying "yes!" i do hear yall and i am glad to find out that 50% of
the listees are hetero! "go speed racer!" (again a tasteless joke:)
thank you and a good day to you!!!... oh yea! this quote is my favorite
part of the 1200 cd!!!

brett patterson
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hey kind friends!

        only *9* of the boots have been taken so far.  but i'm tired of
"grading" responses, sooooo the next 6 people who respond will get the
bootleg.  i'll save one spot for someone on digest :)

        here's the answers:

        offer:  the grand emporium, kansas city, missouri 7-18-89 - 90 mins.
side a: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, cold as ice,
prince of darkness, summertime, no way to treat a friend, center stage, make
it easier
side b: blood and fire, girl with the weight of the world in her hands, land
of cannan, kid fears, get together, all along the watchtower

(1)     according to amy, who was the line "it's 3am and it's good company"
written about?

        presumably, hey kind friend was written about amy riding around with
ani defranco on tour.  sara lee was playing bass for ani.  and amy said in a
recent article (i can't remember which one offhand :o) that the one line was
written about sara lee!

(2)     what type of instrument does emily play on hey kind friend?

        dulcimer

(3)     what do the numbers 115 and 17 refer to in shed your skin?

        there are 115 species of snakes in north america and 17 are
venomous.  shed your skin, baby...let it rip!!

(4)     what two songs does emily play banjo on from the shaming of the sun
album?

        everyone got this one right! -- soy and gotm

(5)     approximately how many beers did amy consume while writing reunion?
        a) none
        b) 1-5
        c) 6-12
        d) over 12 beers

        this was the most difficult question.  at first amy says a
twelve-pack, then later she says it was only a six-pack, cause she has a low
tolerance (yeah, right! ;)
so the answer is c, according to the 4/9/93 alexandria, va bootleg.

        if anyone feels that they *must* have this boot, please let me know
and i'll try to oblige.  folks who previously answered the quiz, but missed
some answers will be given first priority! :)

thanks to everyone who particpated in my silly quiz!

folkisgruven~
tony

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we get a great instrumental version of least complicated on the muzak at the
restaurant i work at here in wilmington...and it comes on all the time!  it's
great!
hehe..just thought i would share.
take care
rob

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whooo hooo a straight chick  and here i didnt think any were on the
list<mg< guess my early hetro detection system was off<g>
hugs anthony van pyre
multiply life by the power of snooze

on wed, 4 jun 1997, jan hallford wrote:

> as a heterosexual, 26 year old female, i have seen (in the few months i've been part of this list) absolutely no evidence that there is any hatred, dislike, even distaste for heterosexuals.  there is a lot of talk about relationships...both hetero- and homosexual.  if the person who felt that heterosexuals were disliked feels this way, then perhaps he/she should examine him/herself to find out why.  i don't know...maybe the fact that gay and lesbian people feel free to discuss their relationships makes this person uncomfortable...and their happiness is seen as a rejection and dislike of heterosexuals and their relationships.  hmmm...toughie.  anyway...i certainly don't feel disliked, and i hope no one else feels disliked by me...i would be very upset to find that so.  take care.  = )
>
> jennifer w.
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miss binky rocks!!!

        can i get an amen!!!

tony~
founder - ssim yknib fan club &
ig fanatic!!! :)

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subject:      ejs, vld, and ig

i posted yesterday about ejs and amy.  i forgot to
mention em plays some rockin' guitar on god in heaven.
obviously, we all know that em's very able to rock just as
hard as amy.  fellow listees also straightened me out on who is
actually singing in god in heaven.  it is amy and
chris mcguire (i thought it was cooper seay).
that's ignorance on my part.  sorry!
i was also told viva la diva, cooper's recent band, rocks!
so, i guess i gotta splurge again and get another cd!
you people are makin' me go broke!  but, i love ya!!!
why do y'all have to be so darn hip?  :)  i listen to ya, i buy,
i love the music, i want more, and the cycle starts
again; then i post about the music, and i probably
entice other listees to do the same.

lisa

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i'm looking to start a collection of live ig stuff. i have very little
so far. i will pay & do cartwheels for cool stuff!
email me at sarahneve@hotmail.com

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sorry for the space y'all, but i can't seem to reply to your post tricia...
here is the info you requested:

at 12:55 am 6/5/97 -0600, you wrote:
>hey--do i get one? that would be so wonderful--and i'm from mo, so
>there's some sort of connection to the boot-- tricia

   sure tricia, you got it!  send me a blank 90 min tape along with a sase to:
        tony fraps
        p.o. box 55042
        houston, texas 77255-5042

bye!
tony :)

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date:         wed, 4 jun 1997 23:44:02 +0000
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hi,

to all those who attended the msg show, i was
wondering, did ig fill the venue?

i know it was booked for the benefit of the suits
at epic so i was curious if it filled.

any estimates???

thanks...tt

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subject:      la show 2 july..

hey i still haven't received my tickets for the first show at the greek theatre
in la on the 2nd.

i live in england and am having them sent to a friend in boston (since the
ticket sales people wouldn't mail them straight to me over here) who then has
to send them to a hotel address for me while i'm on holiday west coast.

anyway, she still hasn't got them.

i leave on monday, and its all getting a bit close for comfort. anyone any
thoughts about when we should expect them, or what my plan should be if they
just never show up??

thanks, cathy

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hi all!

   just wanted to share my "almost indigo-like" moment (since everyone
else has shared theirs) last night.

   i went to baby superstore, up here in columbus oh... searching
desperately to find a baby gift for a coworker... "da da da"...
anyway, don't know what radio station they had on but i heard shawn
colvin... (ah, cool i'm thinking, singing along to myself) then, the
next song was by catie curtis!  i swear, i was like... i had no idea
there was a radio station that cool here! gotta find out which one it
was and tune it & email indigo requests, i guess!

   thanks for listening!
   indigohio... will you ever be here?

   see ya,
    twink!

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ok. three tickets are now up for grabs for saturday (ig at spac, saratoga
springs, ny).  they are box seats, section 9.

please email me if you'd like them!
lori


"this could be the saddest dusk i've ever seen turn to a miracle"
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hey everybody, a couple of questions...

does anybody have a really good copy of the girl's cover of "wild horses"
with michelle malone?  i have an alright copy, but i'd like a better one.
maybe we can trade, but i don't have a lot in the way of boots...maybe
we can work something out.

second ?:  what does anyone know about the blood and fire bootleg cd?  i
found it in a small record store close to my campus, and wondered
about it.

third ?:  does anybody have any idea about the new michelle malone cd?
i heard it was coming out on june 13 but didn't know if that was still
the date.

okay, that's about enough for now.  have an ultra-groovy day!

amy k

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hi y'all

msg was awesome!!! i was wondering if anyone made a boot or took some
pictures (i would be more than willing to pay for doubles).  when i
brought my camera to the hofstra concert it was taken so i didn't
bother brining it to msg and was so bummed to learn i could have.
also i am going to the saratoga concert and need directions.  if
anyone is from that area could you plese email me privately.  i'm
also looking for things to do in that area to make a day of it.

thanks so much.
roni

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hey... can any of you guys who know the pnc (formerly garden state)
arts center tell me where to go after the concert to wait for the girls to
come out and get autographs? i've been to my first two ig concerts and
still dont have autographs (dead head friends). this time i am getting
an autograph... if i can figure out where to go... any help would be much
appreciated.

thanks.


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is to help me take my life less seriously;
it's only life after all."   -- emily saliers

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subject:      re: hetrosexuality disliked on the ig list??....

hi yall,
i'm new to this list and yes from alabama.
i am responding to brett's letter. i think he
read the statement all wrong, they were not
putting down hetrosexuality, but the people
from alabama. this i take offense to. i am a
lifelong resident of the state and yes we have
our problems but so do other places. i can
only speak from personal experience and must
say that i have no problem with anyone being
anything. in this i mean i have friends who are of
different races and different orientations. i give all
people respect, until they show me that they
don't deserve it. the person who wrote such a
statement obviously hasn't taking into consideration
what they were saying, because they would realize
that they were doing to the people of alabama what
they stated was being to others. i don't know about
you all but this sounds like reverse descrimination to me.
you can't judge someone by what someone else has done.
i'm 28 yaers old and can't control what has been done or
said by others. things that were done in the past were
just that, in the past. i guess what i'm saying is that,"we
all live in an imperfect world. i don't thonk the way to
try and perfect it is by tearing down people. maybe we
just all try to show those we come in contact with the
we want and maybe we'll get it back. okay i'm off my soap
box now. flame away.

monica


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sorry to waste bandwidth, but i accidently deleted the address of the
person who was offering to dub the video of the show.  i have the videotape
ready to go, but nowhere to send it to.  would that kind soul please drop
me a line.'


thanks,


mike

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department of spatial information engineering
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http://www.spatial.maine.edu/studentbios/paluzzi/mike.html
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at 04:46 pm 6/4/97 -0400, ilana deutsch (wind80) wrote:
>let's just start by saying...i was very annoyed at the crowd. i moved up
>because i thought i had good seats but they turned oiut ot be not so good and
>in the middle of leeds(one of my favs) some ass made me and my friends
>move...and we were all the way up by the middle divider on the floor.

if i understand correctly, you're calling someone was an "ass" for sending
you back to the seats you purchased?!

>i also went to the
>hartford show last weekend and i noticed something kind of upsetting, it was
>basically the same set list. they only changed 3 songs!! it got me a little
>angry but i got over it quickly and made the best of it.

they seem to have 2 basic set lists on with several "floating" changes.  i
think if you go to 2 shows that are at different venues, you should
anticipate the possibility of significant overlap.  even 3 changes is more
than you would get from many performers.

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at 07:02 pm 6/4/97 -0400, annajenn@aol.com wrote:
>this was the most amazing concert i have ever been too! (well, i haven't been
>to that many...) my seats were okay, but during the show i was able to get up
>and walk across the floor all the way to the barrier where the special people
>sat. (how the hell does one get such good tickets anyhow?) so i stood up
>there for a few songs, but then some really mean guy yelled at me to go back
>to my seat where i belong

man what a jerk, keeping you from obstructing the view of people who paid
for those seats!

>think the people sitting next to me were pissed off because i'm in high
>school and talked about how immature me and my friends were. i'm sorry, but
>it is fun to dance and scream(or sing) at concerts!

>i'm not even gonna try to post the setlist, but if anybody has a boot of this
>concert please please e mail me!

you just have to hope they weren't the people setting next to you. :)

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i bet i didn't make it, because i don't have a computer and have to
trudge to the campus to use one, but...if by some miracle i'm on time let
me know!!  =)
thanks,
amy c.

on wed, 4 jun 1997, da chickenman wrote:

> hey kind friends!
>
>         only *9* of the boots have been taken so far.  but i'm tired of
> "grading" responses, sooooo the next 6 people who respond will get the
> bootleg.  i'll save one spot for someone on digest :)
>
>         here's the answers:
>
>         offer:  the grand emporium, kansas city, missouri 7-18-89 - 90 mins.
> side a: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, cold as ice,
> prince of darkness, summertime, no way to treat a friend, center stage, make
> it easier
> side b: blood and fire, girl with the weight of the world in her hands, land
> of cannan, kid fears, get together, all along the watchtower
>
> (1)     according to amy, who was the line "it's 3am and it's good company"
> written about?
>
>         presumably, hey kind friend was written about amy riding around with
> ani defranco on tour.  sara lee was playing bass for ani.  and amy said in a
> recent article (i can't remember which one offhand :o) that the one line was
> written about sara lee!
>
> (2)     what type of instrument does emily play on hey kind friend?
>
>         dulcimer
>
> (3)     what do the numbers 115 and 17 refer to in shed your skin?
>
>         there are 115 species of snakes in north america and 17 are
> venomous.  shed your skin, baby...let it rip!!
>
> (4)     what two songs does emily play banjo on from the shaming of the sun
> album?
>
>         everyone got this one right! -- soy and gotm
>
> (5)     approximately how many beers did amy consume while writing reunion?
>         a) none
>         b) 1-5
>         c) 6-12
>         d) over 12 beers
>
>         this was the most difficult question.  at first amy says a
> twelve-pack, then later she says it was only a six-pack, cause she has a low
> tolerance (yeah, right! ;)
> so the answer is c, according to the 4/9/93 alexandria, va bootleg.
>
>         if anyone feels that they *must* have this boot, please let me know
> and i'll try to oblige.  folks who previously answered the quiz, but missed
> some answers will be given first priority! :)
>
> thanks to everyone who particpated in my silly quiz!
>
> folkisgruven~
> tony
>
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sorry, ya'll, i didn't mean to send this message to everyone.  i'm still
new at this!
amy

on thu, 5 jun 1997, amy cason wrote:

> i bet i didn't make it, because i don't have a computer and have to
> trudge to the campus to use one, but...if by some miracle i'm on time let
> me know!!  =)
> thanks,
> amy c.
>
> on wed, 4 jun 1997, da chickenman wrote:
>
> > hey kind friends!
> >
> >         only *9* of the boots have been taken so far.  but i'm tired of
> > "grading" responses, sooooo the next 6 people who respond will get the
> > bootleg.  i'll save one spot for someone on digest :)
> >
> >         here's the answers:
> >
> >         offer:  the grand emporium, kansas city, missouri 7-18-89 - 90 mins.
> > side a: closer to fine, secure yourself, love's recovery, cold as ice,
> > prince of darkness, summertime, no way to treat a friend, center stage, make
> > it easier
> > side b: blood and fire, girl with the weight of the world in her hands, land
> > of cannan, kid fears, get together, all along the watchtower
> >
> > (1)     according to amy, who was the line "it's 3am and it's good company"
> > written about?
> >
> >         presumably, hey kind friend was written about amy riding around with
> > ani defranco on tour.  sara lee was playing bass for ani.  and amy said in a
> > recent article (i can't remember which one offhand :o) that the one line was
> > written about sara lee!
> >
> > (2)     what type of instrument does emily play on hey kind friend?
> >
> >         dulcimer
> >
> > (3)     what do the numbers 115 and 17 refer to in shed your skin?
> >
> >         there are 115 species of snakes in north america and 17 are
> > venomous.  shed your skin, baby...let it rip!!
> >
> > (4)     what two songs does emily play banjo on from the shaming of the sun
> > album?
> >
> >         everyone got this one right! -- soy and gotm
> >
> > (5)     approximately how many beers did amy consume while writing reunion?
> >         a) none
> >         b) 1-5
> >         c) 6-12
> >         d) over 12 beers
> >
> >         this was the most difficult question.  at first amy says a
> > twelve-pack, then later she says it was only a six-pack, cause she has a low
> > tolerance (yeah, right! ;)
> > so the answer is c, according to the 4/9/93 alexandria, va bootleg.
> >
> >         if anyone feels that they *must* have this boot, please let me know
> > and i'll try to oblige.  folks who previously answered the quiz, but missed
> > some answers will be given first priority! :)
> >
> > thanks to everyone who particpated in my silly quiz!
> >
> > folkisgruven~
> > tony
> >
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subject:      nigc/goddess message

hello all,
   forgot to mention this in my earlier post about "goddess will save me"...
just wanted people to know that although i am a goddess worshipper, i have
nothing against others believing differently.  i feel there is no one
universal belief for everyone.
people should believe what is confortable for them.  being a christian is not
right for all, nor is being a pagan, jewish, etc.....  i think the same goes
for many other things in life, ie. sexial orientation.  for that is what life
is about, differences.  it is just too bad people can't accept that.  so, for
those who cannot accept each person as their own individual, i'm sorry.  it
is in my opinion, that those are the people who have a problem....being
closeminded.  i am not a heterosexual and have nothing against those who are.
and (this is for brett)  if you really hear what people are saying, i think
you will find that it is not about hatred towards heterosexuals.

can't we all just get along????  --i wish, when we do--wow, what a great
world this will be!!!!
"let's put on some tunes, sing along and do little all day"  --amy ray
--yeah, i wish.  i am now off to work.

--peace, always
--trish

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got this from the ig newsgroup.......

(reposted without permission)
pulse article (june '97)

in concert, however, with just the two of them on a warm-up acoustic tour,
the songs are stripped back to their original core, making it evident how
well the two combine simple melodies with rousing choruses set up dynamic
acoustic interplay.  watching the indigo girls in concert in tulsa, a
heartland town where two 40-foot-plus statues honor jesus christ and an
industrious blue-collar work ethic, it's obvious how their individual
diversities come together as strengths.  the old friends may be oil and
water--ray represents frenetic passion; saliers careful, self-conscious
expression--but their contrasts don't clas as much as they blend like a
good vinaigrette.  the juxtapose each other in personality and action, yet
they meet on the terms that are most important to them:  sexual
orientation, political concern, a humanistic and spiritual outlook, and a
shared passion for making music that represents an intensely personal
viewpoint.

onstage, they offer their songs with a complete lack of artifice; there's
nothing remotely flashy about the presentation.  there's no stage set; no
production valuew other than minimal lighting.  ray bounds around slashing
her guitar and saliers stands firm, providing solos and instrumental
details.  they let thier compositions provide the entertainment, offering
rambling, crescendos banged out with intensity and commitment.  the arena
crowd stays on its feet, seemingly hungry for the wide-open compassion and
physical catharsis that the performance offers them.  sprinkled through
the heartland tulsa audience, you'll find the expected lesbian couples and
wool-sweater liberals, but there are also large groups of middle-american
high-school girls and college students, as well as plenty of hetero
couples singing along to the choruses and high-fiving at teh intros to
favorite songs.

"our fans are so supportive," ray says, "there's a lot of them that we've
sort of grown up with, and there seems to be those who come along every
year and join the family."  adds saliers, "we're a real good catalg band
for epic. we have the kind of fans who go back and buy everythihng.  we've
never really been about hit singles.  our fans tend to really care about
the music, and i think they know we really care about the music and the
shows.  our music is honest and emotional, and i think people can hook
onto that.  it's a mixture of talking about the darkness of the world and
also the hope that we can survivve, and that we yearn for optimism in the
midst of all the craziness around us.  plus, amy and i do our best to keep
growing and to keep trying new things, musically, and i think our fans
appreciate that, too."

saliers touches upon a salient point when she mentions that the duo
doesn't rely on singles to connect with the fans.  the popularity of the
indigo girls is uncommon in several ways:  they're a rare 90's success
story in that they haven't relied on massive radio airply or a
high-profile vido presence to establish a following, yet they have managed
to consistently top a million in sales with their studio efforst;
moreover, they're acoustic folk rockers flourishing in a
hip-hop/grunge/technology driven age.  in tulsa, they rock the crowd with
only the two of them onstage, using nothing but strings and voices to
raise spirits and garner a response.  what they have done is, they've
conceived an intimate bond with their audience.  by displaying who they
are and what they feel withsuch willing enthusiasm, they've touched a
chord in listeners who want to be encouraged to be themselves, whoever
they may be, outside of the constricting pressures of a pop culture that's
deeply media-saturated and highly self-conscious.

"when we write songs, it doesnt' come from some point of entertainment or
trying to create the next hit or because of some kind of responsibility we
feel toward anything," saliers notes.  "we write about whatever we've been
thinking about.  i write because i've had an experience, and i'm ready to
write a song about it.  at that point, i'm no thining about fans or record
companies or radio or recording studios.  it's really about
self-expression for me, and trying to say what i feel i want to say about
whatever is on my mind.  when we get into the studio or when we get to a
show, that's when we think about how to balance the songs in a way people
will like."

the indigos believe that they've been able to forge a unique image and to
pursue their own artistic vision because of the way they started.
initially, they built a following as an independent act working the '80's
college circuit along the east coast; they originally released their 1987
debut, _strange fire_, on their own indigo label.  the success of that
album prompted record labels to seek them out, rather than the other way
around.

"because we had built a grass-roots following on our own, we were of the
mind that we could keep doing this independently if we wanted to," ray
says.  "we would only go with a major record company if they were willing
to go along with our agenda and our politics and our creativity.  epic
ended up being a cool label for us.  they're artist-oriented, and we feel
they're supportive of our goals and our politics.  we haven't had many
radio hits, and they've gotten used to the idea that we're that way.  we
haven't had to concentrate on that, which is good."

ray recalls one time that epic execs came to the duo to suggest it include
a cover song on an album that might more readily attract radio play.
"that was kind of the last thing they ever said like that," ray laughs.
adds saliers, "yeah, we got so mad about it they never said anything
else."

nonetheless, the two say communication and respect between them and the
record label is open and mutual.  the label offers advice on
photographers, video directors, and on which songs might work well as
singles for various radio formats.  "we've always appreciated what they do
for us on certain levels," ray says.  "but they also know we're going to
go on tour and work hard and do our own thing.  we do what we do, they do
what they do, and we see what happens.  i think we recognize that we have
a good thing, and that we've been very fortunate.  it was fun when we
started, and it's just as much fun for us now."

and why shouldn't it be fun?  after all, the indigo girls have established
a career for the long run during an era of here-today, gone-tomorrow
sensations.  along the way, they've cut against the grain in nearly every
way.  at a time when the most powerful performers believe they have to
wrap themselves in glamour and play the media game, amy ray and emily
saliers have forged a separate path and have achieved success on their own
terms.

---
michael mccall is a free-lance journalist based in nashville, a city amy
ray once blasted in a song named after the town.  both ray and mccall like
the city now.

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hey all
        there was a short review of the msg show (and a cute picture) in
todays new york times.  the review wasn't favorable, but interesting
anyway.  i don't have it with me to post, check it out if you have a
chance.

happy day,
jennie

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that emptiness brings fullness,
and loss of love brings wholeness to us all."
-amy ray
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some more ig ppv info from this week's creative loafing at

http://www.cln.com/newsstand/current/

creative loafing online - atlanta music
local releases

   michael lorant and sheila doyle of big fish ensemble will open for the
   indigo girls at a show in boston on june 6. the three-hour concert
   will be available on pay-per-view via satellite across the country,
   with the live broadcast beginning at 9 p.m. there's also a rumor
   afloat that big fish ensemble's name appears "scrawled on a roadcase"
   during the new indigos' video "shame on you." meanwhile, bfe has been
   busy completing their first cd in more than two years. "it's sounding
   a little more experimental than our past work," says lorant. "our
   sound is a little more lean, mean and focused. everyone has taken a
   little step forward. leigh and sheila are actually singing, and i step
   up to lead vocals quite a bit more. sheila dabbles in lead guitar,
   viola and keyboard. in addition to upholding the high standards of his
   pop-songwriting, paul x. schwartz does some real angry vocals on this
   album that scare me. oh yeah, and he's been dabbling in watercolors
   because we need some artwork for the cd." lorant, who's currently
   considering shaving his head again, tells us the cd is tentatively
   titled big fish iv. "get it?" adds the quartet's leader.

   [snip]

   -- gregory nicoll
   copyright 1997 by creative loafing | published june 7, 1997 |

******************************************************************************************

                                           movies
                                 displayed in the new south

   the indigo girls' friday night concert from boston's great woods will be broadcast live
      nationally on pay-per-view. during the show's 15-minute intermission, two atlanta
                         filmmakers are getting an incredible break.

    according to indigo girl amy ray, david zeiger's hour-long 1994 documentary displaced
      in the new south, about life in georgia as seen through the eyes of newly arrived
   latino and asian immigrants, inspired their song "shame on you." indigo girls are using
   a minute of footage from displaced in their forthcoming music video for the song, and a
     six- or seven-minute clip from displaced in the new south will be shown during the
                              concert's 15-minute intermission.

       ruth leitman, who has photographed indigo girls' album covers, will also show a
    seven-minute trailer from her work-in-progress documentary alma -- a southern gothic
   film about the relationship between a mother and a daughter -- as a promotional preview
                                        of her film.

    "we're really excited about it because it's an audience that we really want to reach,
    and it's exposure that is really incredible to have," leitman says during a break in
    her editing suite. "it will be the largest audience that will ever see [these films]
                                  projected on the screen."

      indigo girls' "shaming of the sun" concert broadcasts friday, june 6, 9 p.m., on
    pay-per-view, through mediaone. customers with a converter box can order at any time
    starting now at (800) 597-7788. charge is $14.95. for those without a converter box,
      there will be a public viewing at the atlanta beer garten, 3013 peachtree road in
                           buckhead. admission is $5 at the door.

                copyright 1997 by creative loafing | published jun 7, 1997 |

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um......i'll take "stupid posts" for $100 alex....

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in a message dated 6/5/97 10:05:50 am, you wrote:

<<someone named jon foggerty (?) was
taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in.>>

someone named john foggerty???  is there anyone else out there in listland
feeling exceptionally old right now?

dee

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              chickenman" at jun 4, 97 9:47 pm

>         i've long believed that homosexuality is one of the many remaining
> unfair prejudices existing in our society.
i think homophobia is too. :-|#)
kirsten


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at 11:12 am -0400 6/5/97, dschulman@aol.com wrote:

><<someone named jon foggerty (?) was
>taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
>of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in.>>
>
>someone named john foggerty???  is there anyone else out there in listland
>feeling exceptionally old right now?

all i wanna know is have you ever seen the rain?

i don't feel old dee...look at me...i can be... centerfield!

:o)

i'm back anj..... :o)

joni  :o)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
i'm not into working out.  my philosophy:  no pain, no pain.
            carol leifer
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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hey kind friends!

        i now have more than 15 requests for the grand emporium boot so i'm
closing the offer.  i haven't responded yet to all who have qualified, so be
patient (i'm working on it! ;o)
        thanks for all who participated! :)

tony

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from:         shawn e daly <paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil>
subject:      newport quest.at msg

    i don't think anybody mentioned it, but in between songs at msg, amy
asked if anybody had any questions. a person yelled out if they would be
at newport this year. i didn't quite get her gist completely when she
answered that it'd be better without them this year and then added maybe
next year. did anybody there pick up on what she said?.
   p.s. hats after my own heart. olive drab :)     see you. pj :)

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hkf!

        kirsten is absolutely correct.... i meant to say that "the fear of
homosexuality" (i.e. homophobia)....

at 11:14 am 6/5/97 edt, tonette wrote:
>>         i've long believed that homosexuality is one of the many remaining
>> unfair prejudices existing in our society.
>i think homophobia is too. :-|#)
>kirsten


tony

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i picked this up off the newsgroup anyone knwo anything about it

in the indigo girls section of the cdnow www page they list a video
called "the indiscreet mrs. jarvis"
it has what looks like a warner serial number.   wea m-1072
what is this video? the indigo's are with epic/sony right?
any info on this would be appreciated.
thanks!
renee steeves

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subject:      and the winner is

--- brett wrote:
3) i would like to take a pole of what all of yall think about
christianity??
--- end of quoted material ---
how ironic! i'd like to take a pole and beat anyone over the head who disgrees
with me! and then i'd like to kiss everyone who agrees with me! and then i'd
like to...get back to talking about the ig and their current tour

what a random concept!

sus
not into violence, definitely into blueberry slurpees

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subject:      re: vh1 hard rock live taping (nigc)

it's got nothing to do with age, so don't feel old. wnew in nyc was doing
an interview with jf this morning and it wasn't half bad. they talked about
all his solo stuff and touched on his time with ccr a bit. all in all i
was pretty impressed -- i think i'll have to get the new album (he said it's
been eleven years since his last album!!! that means i was 12 when it came out!

and ig fans thought they were starved for a new album  ;)


> in a message dated 6/5/97 10:05:50 am, you wrote:
>
> <<someone named jon foggerty (?) was
> taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
> of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in.>>
>
> someone named john foggerty???  is there anyone else out there in listland
> feeling exceptionally old right now?
>
> dee

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any of y'all who don't have the new mongrels cd not dead yet, do
yourselves a favor and get it. really interesting stuff. i bought it
primarily for the emily and amy connection but ended up falling in love
with almost everyone else on the album as well. it's well worth the 12
bucks.

jendy

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i just foiund out one of my favorite bands the  murmurs has a new cd
coming out jne 24 th and thought id share it with you all  cause i know
some folks on here like them

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hey people,

the epic site (and the rolling stone site) states that we could listen to
the ppv concert via our puter.  but it doesnt say how or give any other
info....does anyone know anything about this?  does it require the stoopid
real audio thing?
any info anyone can give me would be real cool because i'm achin to hear
this -- the dang chicago cable system would rather carry some crappy
wrestling thing than da girls.  <sigh>

later chicas and chicos,

--sue

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i was aching with freedom, kissing the damned    #=={o/)
i said remember this as how it should be..."        <<                                 -- a.r.

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hi,

i meant to write to you, but i couldn't find your address - i figured
you'd post again sometime...

i got my tickets that i ordered through the subscriber thing via
ticketmaster one day last week, so yours should be coming soon.  i'm in
california, so maybe that would make mine get to me earlier.  i'd give
them a little while longer, and then try calling ticket master with your
subscription number.

regards,

alison


> hey i still haven't received my tickets for the first show at the greek theatre
> in la on the 2nd.
>
> i live in england and am having them sent to a friend in boston (since the
> ticket sales people wouldn't mail them straight to me over here) who then has
> to send them to a hotel address for me while i'm on holiday west coast.
>
> anyway, she still hasn't got them.
>
> i leave on monday, and its all getting a bit close for comfort. anyone any
> thoughts about when we should expect them, or what my plan should be if they
> just never show up??
>
> thanks, cathy
>

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subject:      ig trivia / boot offer!

to celebrate the arrival of my bootlist on the web
<http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~binkley/bootlist.html>, and because i have
too much time on my hands, i'm offering a free boot to the first person who
correctly answers the following trivia question:

     what do the following songs have in common (*besides* being ig songs, for
     all you smart alecks): closer to fine, center stage, virginia woolf,
     reunion, the wood song, and this train (revised)?

of course, anyone who wants to trade or send blanks for boots is welcome to
check out my bootlist, too. <grin>
kirsten

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andrew,
          can you remove yourself from this list asap please.
          the volume of mail you receive from this list service is
          ridiculous!!!  email is for business purposes only.

          email admin
          dell_usa.

any of y'all who don't have the new mongrels cd not dead yet, do
yourselves a favor and get it. really interesting stuff. i bought it
primarily for the emily and amy connection but ended up falling in love
with almost everyone else on the album as well. it's well worth the 12
bucks.

jendy

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subject:      summer loop tapes, anyone? (marginal igc)

since loop five is almost closed (suzi, hello? <grin>), and as mentioned
before, i have too much time on my hands, i hereby volunteer myself to
coordinate the second official indigo-girls list tape loop.

for newbies: a couple of months ago, amy sanders coordinated the first
official indigo-girls list tape loop. everyone who was interested emailed her,
she split them up into groups of six, each person made a mix tape containing
songs from any artist except the indigo girls, and every two weeks each
person would mail a tape on to the next person in her group.

so, if you didn't have a chance to participate the first time around, or if
you had so much fun that you want to do it again, respond to this message by
private email, and i'll get the ball rolling.
kirsten

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hey all-

just wanted to chime in with some of my own comments on the vh1 taping, and
add to those comments from other listees who already posted!

first of all-whoever said that we waited for a loooooong time was right.
andi lippman (hey andi!) was there at 5pm and me and my friends met up with
her around 6, but the show didn't begin until 11ish! the concert before
ours was late and then the producer wanted to do some more re-taping, so
basically everything was pushed back. but on the brighter  side, me, andi,
and pack of others were right at the front of the line, so we knew that
we'd get great standing room...and we were about 2 feet from the stage,
amy-side. :)

the studio was small and as the girls came out, we could immediately tell
that amy was kinda pissy. she had that tense look on her face, but emily
was all smiles. as soon as the concert began, though, both of them looked
like they were really enjoying themselves. lots of geeetar-jamming,
grinning, audience singalongs, and ulali blew us away with their vocal
ranges!

i think andi wrote down the set list, so i'll let her do that. :)

coupla funny sidebars during the q&a period, someone asked what kind of
bagels did they like (amy-cinnamon/raisin, emily-sesame). there were
cameras allll over the place, over our heads, swooping down, and one time,
a camera basically got into amy's face as she was pounding on the geetar
and emily looked up and gave the camera man this funny look-kind of a
withering/exasperated look. haha-bet vh1 won't show *that* on camera.

the icing on the cake was at the end of the concert- me, andi, and my
friend veronica begged the geetar tech for pics and we each got one amidst
the scramble of hands! wheehooo!

:)
be seeing all of you at the pnc show tonight!

therese  :)

tleung@wellelsey.edu or cckleung@myhost.com

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i just wanted to make an offer to the list. i have a some copies of a
flyer which which is created by a number of daemon records fans to promote
and support the label. the flyer i have has a review of viva la diva's
cd entitled greatest hits volume one, plus a lot of other great stuff, and
a handy form which will help you make all of your daemon purchases!

all you've gotta do is email me, i'll give you my address, you send me a
sase, and i'll send you a flyer. easy, huh! the only catch is i am moving
very soon, so if you want this act now because i will not have email after
i graduate!

(viva la diva's music does rock...buy their cd)

**carrie**

"i find it so hard to get past the weather" vld

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nancy humphries!!!


thank you!!!  i don't know if i would have gotten to see this article if you hadn't posted it, and i live in tulsa, and was in attendance at that particular concert.  = )  i feel real now!!  *laughing*  thanks again.  by the way...i only know of one huge statue to jesus...hmm....i wonder what the other one is.  ; )  take care.

jennifer w.

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in a message dated 97-06-05 11:30:04 edt, pulse article goes :

<< saliers touches upon a salient point when she mentions  >>

*ouch*
if that's not a very bad pun it sure is a bad *something*
yikes !

cj

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for those of you in and around the atlanta area, viva la diva is playing
saturday night at the otherside. just a little fyi.

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hey all:-} i am hearing that the girls will be at lilleth fair <sp> in
vancouver
(gasp!... only a bit away from where i be living!!!! ) in august and also
doing a show at deer lake in van.... is this true??? i'd check out the
internet, except my netscape is cranky:-( can anyone tell me the facts? you
know... locations; venues etc... i'd be most grateful:-)
peace, kim
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skin baby, let it through... come on over now... amy ray
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speaking of ridiculous!!!  i hope that in the future mr. dell will get
enough ahead to be able to hire an email administrator who is not only
courageous enough to sign their real name to their post, but also
competent enough to know who they are emailing.

sincerely,

trant batey


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newbie in the house....a newbie with a satellite dish.
the girls have this great commercial advertising their ppv special it
goes something like this:

announcer(female voice):shame on you if you miss this!
then it shows some watershed clips, and then an appearance by the girls.
a:hi, i'm amy.
e:and i'm emily, and we're the indigo girls. (all smiles)
a:and we're "dishing" up our concert (i-can't-believe-i-just-said-that look)
e:..on directv!

for anyone who has dtv it's on at 19 min. after the hr. on channel 100.
(not that i tune in every time or anything).
looking forward to the ppv, and i am #1 in line to get ut tickets on sat.
i've been getting responses from family and coworkers like "that's
because you're the only one who wants to go."  i was needing some moral
support, i love you guys!

peace, love, and cheesewhiz,
diana

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i figured i would add my msg & vh1 comments to everyone else's.  first of
all, someone posted a msg setlist & then wrote, "anyone remember the order?
did i skip any?"  i wrote it down, & since this person (sorry, i forget
who) got it a little out of order, here it is:

mystery
shame on you
it's alright
don't give that girl a gun
ghost
tried to be true
everything in its own time
shed your skin *
get out the map
chickenman
leeds *
scooter boys
least complicated
burn all the letters *
this train revised
caramia
cut it out
galileo

encore:
crimson and clover +
bury my heart at wounded knee
closer to fine

* = with ulali
+ = with joan jett

some random notes: even though msg is huge (it wasn't completely sold
out...there were empty seats way up high, but is looked almost full), & my
seats weren't the greatest, i thought it was a great show.  i was
disappointed that they didn't use the screens, but it was cool looking
through chris's binoculars for a close up view. i thought mystery was a
cool beginning!  since the day i got the tickets, my roommate has been
asking me if i thought they would pay it, since it's her favorite song.  i
thought she was going to die when they played the opening chords!  gotm was
a huge crowd pleaser!  everyone went crazy singing along.  i have a feeling
that it's going to become the new galileo.  amy sang the mr. buzzard song
in the middle of chickenman.  it went something like this (transcribed from
the unh boot):
"i said, you see that old buzzard, he don't have no fun
see that old buzzard, he don't have no fun
yeah, there ain't nobody glad to see him, and his work is never done
yeah, mr. buzzard, he don't have no fun
mr. buzzard, he don't have no fun
there ain't nobody glad to see him, and his work is never done"
there was a cool soc in the middle of sb, which was much longer than usual.
i was so excited, & i started saying to my (non-listee) friends, "it's an
soc!  it's an soc!"  they were like, "a what???"  i have no idea what
exactly amy was saying though.  the whole thing about the jews before ttr
was cool.  amy said something about how franklin roosevelt sent his support
to that jewish conference thing.  caramia was amazing!  it sounded so full
w/ all the instruments!  i was looking around at the crowd during galileo,
& i got this cool feeling.  there were so many different kinds of
people...all ages & classes & races & sexual orientations & every other
division you can think of, but they all knew the words to galileo & sang
along!  amazing!  the people who held up the sign with the newport question
had a romeo & juliet request on the other side.  i just found that
interesting.  i was also wondering who the woman who came out for ctf
was...somebody must know!  when ulali introduced themselves, they said,
you-la-lee, but when a&e introduced them, they said oo-la-lee.  so which is
it?  it was cool to hear the songs w/ ulali, & to think that those sounds
actually come out of their mouths!

fashion update: amy was wearing one of those shirts she always wears w/ red
& black oval things & white pants.  emily was wearing a vertical striped
shirt w/ yellow & red & some other colors & yellow pants.  speaking of
fashion, the new ig shirt is almost as strange as the naked woman & deer
buck.  it's a strange green color w/ two women talking '50s style on the
bottom.  it's hard to explain.  the other shirt is natural color w/ the
sots album cover on the front & the songs listed in a cool font on the back.

best ig comment of the night: "this is a very very intimate place."-emily

best rude fan comment: "they should have named the album you indi-go
girls."-the  rude guys behind me who talked about frank gifford for an hour

did anyone boot this show?  no one searched us at either show.  if i had
known that, i would have brought my camara.  someone near me even set up a
camara on a tri-pod, & no one cared!

on to vh1 hard rock live...the setlist:

shame on you
get out the map
scooter boys
caramia
shed your skin
leeds
hey kind friend
galileo

john foggerty is from credence clearwater revival.  apparently, he messed
up on the first takes of some songs, so they had to do them over, & that's
why ig started late.  waiting outside, it was pretty easy to tell the jf &
ig fans apart!  although steven & i almost got on the jf line by accident.
the old men next to me drinking out of paper bags had me a little worried
though.  we ended up w/ some extra tickets, so we gave them to these nice
people whose friends had tickets.  they were so excited that they hugged
all of us!  the funny thing about the bagel comment was that amy answered
first that she liked cinamon raison, but she thought emily was a poppy seed
kind of girl, but then emily said no, she liked seasame.  like therese
said, amy was a little unhappy at the beginning.  she kept asking for her
guitar to be turned up or down, but they were both really smiley
nonetheless.  someone requested hand me downs, & amy said they couldn't
play it b/c of time, but they'd play it tonight.  someone asked them who
their favorite girls town character was, & amy was so funny, pretending to
know what she was talking about.  the people said it was a movie, & then
a&e said they hadn't seen it, but they probably should, since it was named
after their lifestyle.  getting a pick after the show was definitely
exciting!

fashion update: amy was wearing a silky-looking light blue shirt w/ some
pattern on it & black flair pants (which would fit in perfectly at sorority
rush! ;) & emily was wearing the same thing that she wore at msg.  i think
all of ulali wore the same thing both nights too.

best ig comment: "wow, they have you in cages up there."-amy, after looking
at the fans sitting up on the scaffolding

best non-ig fan comment: "so, how many people are in this band?"-man in the
front row before a&e came out

i can't wait for the arts center tonight!

on a side note, what does everyone think of the picture inside pulse
magazine?  i'm all for female bonding, but i think it could me misleading
to the fans who always ask if a&e are dating.

special thanks go to chris for getting me msg tickets, therese & veronica
for the vh1 tickets, & therese & her friends for taking care of me in the
big city! :)
andi

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subject:      indigohio?

hi, i'm moving to columbus ohio in like 24 days (but who's counting?) and
i was just wondering as i often do....what is the meaning of indigohio?
are you meaning the lilith show? or are ig going to grace columbus with
their presence twice in a summer?
oh yes and what is that great catie curtis/shawn colvin station?

one more thing--just to add my penny to the pile--i'm a christian
minister and i happen to be going to alabama next week to lead youth
stuff for seventh graders--and i'm takin my ig with me!  it's never too
early to be a fan, you know?  plus amy and emily theology completely
rocks to explain things to kids--hey jesus, ctf, the wood song, lots
more.  anyway that's my answer to the poll.
see y'all!
peace,
beth

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subject:      deer creek on aug. 8! (igc)

hey, all you hoosiers!  i hope you're all going to the lilith fair on aug 8 -- maybe we can meet up before or after the show!?

i called ticketmaster and tickets go on sale this saturday the 7th at 12 noon indiana time.  the tickets are $36, $29, and another price ($24 maybe).  is anyone familiar with the layout of deer creek and can offer me some advice as to what seats to ask for?  i'm willing to shell out for the most expensive ones.  any knowledge would be appreciated.

see you all there!

joanne :)

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well, this review isn't teh best, but i've hyperlinked it so you can see it
for yourselves.  i hope it actually works. i'm still not the best with this
technical stuff!

xo,
sarah

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/arts/indigo-girls-music-review.
html">pop review: indigo girls</a>

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hello everyone!

   i have it on advanced word from the editor of the ezine "cosmik
debris" (due in major part from the "where the heck is the indigo girls
new album in your reviews section?" email i'd sent him) that tomorrow
the new issue comes out (strangely enough that it's the same day as the
ppv show, i thought?)... and they'll be running a review of sots!

   by the way, no... i didn't know the guy (until now, after my email
inquiry)... but i also filled his head with other indigo-related groups
& artists... who knows?  we may find that he'll do reviews, etc. on
those as well!  anyway, if you stop by there & like what you see...
please let him know where you came from.  i told him last month that if
he did get their cd & review it i'd let everyone on the list know to
"stop by"!

     okay here we go!

   http://www.cosmik.com/cosmikdebris/

     dj (the editor) can be reached at:   moonbaby@serv.net

   okay, that's about it... my chance to post something of indigo
importance... usually y'all know about such things way before i do!

   take care!
     twink!

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don't feel old. i'm a young'un, and i love john fogerty!

sari
>someone named john foggerty???  is there anyone else out there in listland
>feeling exceptionally old right now?
>
>dee

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hi y'all,

by a fluke i've ended up with two extra general admission tickets to the
saturday berkeley greek show.  anyone need some?  they're $25.00 each
plus the ridiculous bass charge of $4.50.  let me know if you need any.

julia

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>><<someone named jon foggerty (?) was
>>taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
>>of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in.>>
>>
>>someone named john foggerty???  is there anyone else out there in listland
>>feeling exceptionally old right now?
>
>all i wanna know is have you ever seen the rain?
>
>i don't feel old dee...look at me...i can be... centerfield!

but who will stop the rain since i am stuck in lodi again and i ain't no
fortunate son?

anyone know what album is centerfield on? my husband loves the song and i
would love to track it down for him for father's day.

yes, i understand a good deal of you were born years after ccr broe up,
but surely someone out there knows.

thanks, missy

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don't forget that you can also pipe the show from your t.v. through your
stereo and get a nice audio recording too!

we are fortunate ones,
joe
http://www.moonbase.com/fortunateones

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i'm a little embarrassed about this being my first post since it has such
dubious content but i just need something clarified.

first up, hi. i'm helen from australia and just joined yesterday. i have
loved the girls since jan 93 when they came into my life and just blew me
away. i have been devoted ever since and count the night of 20 feb 1995
when they played canberra to be the best show i have ever seen.

anyway, sorry if this was dealt with earlier in the week, but on the sarah
mclachlan list a short article from a paper was posted about amy and cooper
breaking up and amy being engaged to coolio. it's laughable i know. i just
want to know if it has any basis in anything (ie did they get the person
wrong and it's not coolio but someone else) or whatever. i'd be curious to
find out if this was bantered around on this list or just ignored outright.

regards
helen

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there was a full page spread in the 6/5/97 issue of usa today on summer
festivals and they did a sidebar on the lilith fair tour.

(reprinted without permission)

                           a fair to remember
                (mclachlan 'surfacing' for all-female lineup)

                        by david m. deal

        three and half years after her surprise hit 'fumbling towards
ecstasy,' canadian rocker sarah mclachlan is in the studio putting final
touches on 'surfacing,' her much-anticipated follow-up album.
        when that's done, she'll hit the road with lilith fair, the
all-female rock tour she created as an alternative to the mostly male
lollapalooza. tracy chapman, jewel, indigo girls, joan osborne and others
are on the lilith docket.
        "i'm not anti-lollapalooza," mclachlan says. "there's a lot of
talent in the show, but there was no good alternative. we wanted to do
something different."
        for years, she says, the music industry has been blindly follwing
"the rules," saying you can't have two female acts follow each other. not
so anymore. now women artists are seen as a "viable commodity," mclachlan
says. "i don't know why, but i'm real thankful."
        lilith fair, mclachlan says, is less a feminist statement than
one about equality. hence the name: folklore holds that lilith, adam's
partner before eve, left him when he wouldn't accept her as an equal,
mclachlan says. " i chose fair because it represents equality," she says.
        "it's about bringing women together...to discuss their lives...to
get to know each other."
        lilith fair will promote the rape, abuse & incest national
network, co-founded by tori amos; the group operates a national 24-hour
sexual abuse hotline at 800-656-4673. the lilith tour will also highlight
lifebeat, the music industry's aids awareness organization.
        whether crowds will be fair to lilith remains to be seen. one
promising sign: mclachlan's lineup and lollalalooza are jockeying for the
no. 1 spot on pollstar's on-line list of tours drawing interest from the
net-savvy crowd (http://www.pollstar.com).
        lilith fair will keep mclachlan busy for most of the summer.
after that, she plans more dates on her own. "i'll tour for a year,
travel and get pregnant." the prospective father would be drummer ashwin
sood, with whom she eloped in february. the relationship inspired the new
album by giving her the confidence to explore what she calls her darker side.
        "we are all capable of great lightness and great darkness,"
mclachlan says. 'surfacing' focuses on "being able to see both sides of
yourself" and "being able to love yourself in the end."
        mclachlan seems confident about her new music. despite
'fumbling's' success, there are no commercial expectations or pressure,
she says. "the only expectations were self-imposed...i'm happy if this
record is the best it can be. if i think it's good."


another lf item on the page:

lilith fair: singer sarah mclachlan, who will perform at all dates,
designed this showcase for female talent after learning that promoters
tend to avoid booking all-women rosters. the tour, starting july 5 in
george, wash., offers rotating bills drawn from a pool of stars including
sheryl crow, jewel, cassandra wilson, paula cole, fiona apple, the
cardigans, mary-chapin carpenter, tracy chapman, indigo girls, joan
osborne, emmylou harris, suzanne vega, shawn colvin and lisa loeb. an
acoustic stage will feature surprise guests. ends aug. 20.

nancy humphries
nancy@rbdc.rbdc.com

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many thanks to alison <alisont@netcom.com> who alerted me that one
of our local radio stations will broadcast the great woods show...

at 05:27 pm 6/4/97 -0700, a. taub wrote:
>i don't remember anyone else posting this - i called westwood one in the
>vain hope of finding an l.a. radio station that is broadcasting the great
>woods simulcast.  ha.  the closest station was kfog in san francisco -

kfog (104.5/97.7) was the station which interviewed amy and emily during
their recent sots pre-release promo tour, and it's the same station which
offered 100 lucky bay area ig-fans free tickets to see them live at slim's.

yes, kfog is a westwood one affiliate and will broadcast great woods
sunday night, june 8,  at 9:00pm.... i'll have my tape decks rolling.
^^^^^^^^^^^^

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i have just been kindly warned by someone on the list that the kinds of
posts like the one i just sent are not acceptable on this list and i
totally understand. i was just so glad to finally find this list that i
wanted to hear from people who would be more in the know than anyone else
about these things.

sorry about the *personal ig* content. i'll refrain from doing it again.

hope i haven't got off to a bad start. i love them so much i'd hate to get
a bad reputation here when i know so few fans myself.

thanks
helen

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hey everyone, i finally rejoined the list after a months absence due to
computer malfunction. i know this has probably been discussed already, but
could someone please write me and let me know if there are any list
gatherings planned for tomorrow night's show at greatwoods? i'd really love
to meet some other listees. or could someone please send me the boston ig
list info, that may be a better place to start. thanks.

hope everyone is enjoying the tour,
~bubka
jenn bubka
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helen wrote:
>i have just been kindly warned by someone on the list that the kinds of
>posts like the one i just sent are not acceptable on this list and i
>totally understand. i was just so glad to finally find this list that i
>wanted to hear from people who would be more in the know than anyone else
>about these things.
>
>sorry about the *personal ig* content. i'll refrain from doing it again.

you know, i think it's too bad that helen felt the need to humble herself
so quickly. yes we have our guidelines about the how the personal lives of
a&e shouldn't be discussed here, but whoever wrote to helen and "kindly
warned" her that posts such as hers aren't acceptable here should have
taken into consideration that she was merely inquiring about the validity
of a post that orginated on this very list! i don't think helen should have
had to apologize.

but overall i can't tell you how happy i am to hear that that story about
amy is making it's way over the net. though some laughed and thought it was
great, how do you all feel now? do you think the author's apology is
following it around? personally i can't wait till the day when it gets
reposted back to the list as new news -- right after someone posts the mrs.
field's cookie recipe, of course.

shaking my head...

deb

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hi all.

>but whoever wrote to helen and "kindly
>warned" her that posts such as hers aren't acceptable here should have
>taken into consideration that she was merely inquiring about the validity
>of a post that orginated on this very list! i don't think helen should
have
>had to apologize.

i wasn't really reprimanded. the person who wrote just warned me that i
might get flamed and let me know ahead what the response might be. she was
really very nice about it and i was glad to have it pointed out to me.

oh well, looks like i've made my mark on the list in under 24 hours. :-)

someone else told me there is going to be an australian gathering some time
soon. is this true? i'm in canberra. anyone else from canberra on the list?
anyone know about such a gathering? the other two lists i'm on are almost
totally american so i feel so left out when they all get together. it would
be great to be part of something ig related here.

i also just wanted to say that i am having real trouble with sots. i wish i
wasn't. i have hardly played it since i got it. i like some of the songs
but not as many as i hoped. i see it's a new direction and i appreciate the
girls might want to be looking into new things but something is missing. i
know you've all probably discussed this already, just thought i'd say how i
feel about it. i will try more over the weekend to get inside it somehow. i
want to like it as much as my other precious favourites.

helen

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subject:      berkeley, sf shows!

hello everyone!

i am going to be flying out to san francisco to see them at the greek theatre
on the 5th and 6th!   unfortunately, i was only able to get the general
admission tickets, but i'm just thrilled to see them again!    does anyone
have good advice on getting a good seat?  how early should i get there?
  i've heard that this is a beautiful auditorium, and that there are no bad
seats.

amyray =)  (i *love* that, whoever on the list who thought of that =) )  the
reason i'm writing,  i'd love to meet any and all list-members if there is a
gathering planned!!

lisa
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anyone else buy her new ep "gospel oak"? i got a two cd limited edition
with a remix of "fire on babylon" i think it is some of her best work to
date, i cant get over "this is a rebel song"...
she has five tour dates. three in new england, she opens her tour in
hampton beach, so if she doesnt quit her tour in disgust the first night, i
may finally see the goddess herself. this album is nothing like her first
one (the lion and cobra) and has nothing as ferocius as "troy" on it (*i*
think troy must be one of the most underrated songs of all time, i cannot
explain how intense it is...)
any other comments?
mike r.

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hey everybody!  i've been hiding for awhile, but i thought i'd peek out and
send some greetings to you all.  i know that the austin tx (backyard)
concert isn't until the end of the month, but i thought i'd check and see
who all was planning on going to the friday show.  have an indigo evening!

amy teplow

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subject:      re: newport quest.at msg

in a message dated 97-06-05 20:17:05 edt, paa4687@dpschp11.dpsc.dla.mil
(shawn e daly) writes:

>     i don't think anybody mentioned it, but in between songs at msg, amy
>  asked if anybody had any questions. a person yelled out if they would be
>  at newport this year. i didn't quite get her gist completely when she
>  answered that it'd be better without them this year and then added maybe
>  next year. did anybody there pick up on what she said?.

actually, what *really* happened was, someone had a banner which had the
question "what happened to newport this summer?" or something to that extent.
amy read it out loud and explained that they would be there next year but
that this summer they had conflicting schedules and couldn't make it.

sheri :)

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it will be at:


http://www.station.sony.com/siren/

many westwood one affiliates b'cast on the web as well. (i heard mrl on the
www) so if you get shut out of the site above (or in case the stream is
better someplace else) check out audionet too!

peace-
mike r.
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hi everyone,
i went to both the msg concert and the mercury lounge show w/lift (great
band).  ig played almost a 2 hour set at mercury that was great.

anyway, i booted both shows, with excellent sound quality.  i used 110
minute tapes that worked out great.

please do not flood me with requests.  only email me if you are
interested in being a branch on the tape tree.  i will need
approximately 12 people.  since i am also a branch on another tree,
please copy this email into your response.

donna

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subject:      ig concert at msg - a ny times review

this was the aol version of the new york times review of the ig concert at
msg
-eve

june 5, 1997

pop review: indigo girls

by neil strauss


  new york -- in the past, part of the beauty of a concert by the folk-rock
duo the indigo girls was the synchronicity between its members, amy ray and
emily saliers, who could delve into winning harmonies and energetically pick
their guitars in counterpoint as if connected by an invisible bond.

  but on their current tour, which came to madison square garden on tuesday
night, what distinguished the concert was the growing differences between the
pair.

  vocally, lyrically and musically, ms. ray has always been the coarser
element of the indigo girls. but at the garden, her predilection became an
obsession, steering the duo in a direction more electric than acoustic, more
rock than folk, more patti smith than joni mitchell. many of the pair's newer
songs devolved into long, psychedelic guitar solos and bluesy yowling.

  in the meantime, ms. saliers' approach has remained as soft, sweet and
honest as ever, climaxing with "leeds," a beautiful lament of an inactive
activist, which she played on piano while ms. ray waited offstage.

  while joan baez has made appearances at past indigo girls concerts, this
more rock-oriented show featured joan jett, who played a blistering version
of "crimson and clover" with the duo as an encore.

  though the indigo girls and their three-member backup band performed
favorites from past albums like "galileo" and "closer to fine," the bulk of
the show was culled from the band's new album, "shaming of the sun" (epic).

  while the duo has been diversifying its music and lyrics since "rites of
passage" in 1992, and sounding better in the process, "shaming of the sun"
is, for the most part, substandard fare that's thematically and musically all
over the place.

  typically, indigo girls songs -- which focus on large topics like nature,
religion, sexuality, politics and relationships -- hover on the edge between
the intelligent and the prosaic, between the heartfelt and the patronizing.

  new songs like "it's alright" tipped the balance in the wrong direction,
with the indigo girls simply telling their audience the truisms it wants to
hear without adding the poetry and perspective that distinguish their early
work. "hate me because i'm different/hate me because i'm gay," they sang.
"truth of the matter come around one day."

  on other songs, the addition of caterwauling backup vocals by ulali, an
american indian trio that appears on the current album, didn't help
legitimize the indigo girls' new directions.

copyright 1997 the new york times

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mike, am i hearing this right?!?! i thought i was the only sieand fan on
the list! the other day i saw the video "this is to mother you" in which
sinead, with long black hair, is making love to a old man...it is so
powerful and beautiful!

and i agree totally that "troy" is the most underrated songs of all
time...
if you have ever listened to the live version you'll know what i
mean...so far it's still the most intense and unbelievable song i've ever
heard in my life. a while ago people were posting songs they'd love to
hear ig cover, and i'd say it again, as much as i'd love to hear amy do
it, i don't know if she could move me as much as sinead does...especially
when she screamed "...you still spit in fire/makes no difference what you
say/you're still a fucking liar"

the lion and cobra still remains my favorite sinead album. i'm sorry to
say if i only get to bring one cd to the desert island this is the one
i'll bring with me.

is she going to be in berlin??? i would really love to see her this summer!

hi indigo folks how are you? didn't mean to make this a sinead
discussion list.

ciao,
han

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i am looking for two tickets to great woods friday (today), june 6.
please send a private email response to this address only:
isenberg@fas.harvard.edu.

thanks,
katie

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i just got home from my 3rd ig concert in a row!  i think i could see them
every day & never get tired of them (although my throat is really sore from
all the singing).  anyway, here's tonight's setlist:

tried to be true
get out the map
don't give that girl a gun
it's alright
three hits
you and me of the 10,000 wars
shame on you
burn all the letters *
scooter boys
power of two
thin line
leeds *
shed your skin *
least complicated
everything in its own time
kid fears
cortez the killer
galileo

encore:
hey kind friend
bury my heart at wounded knee +
closer to fine +

* = with ulali
+ = with k's choice

extremely random & haphazard notes: i was 10th row amy side, & it is
definitely a great thing to be close up.  they did use the screens tonight,
but i'd rather see a&e irl.  i think ulali are really cool.  my friends & i
screamed out, "ulali!" & they looked at us, & jennifer said, "ulali, in the
house!" & smiled.  a broke a strings on dgtgag, & josh took over her part.
there were cool jams at the end of dgtgag & 3 hits.  a inserted some lines
from chickenman in the middle of sb & then sang some other song i couldn't
identify, & then sang the "crying about" line over & over at the end.
before po2, they said some people in the audience were getting married in 2
weeks, so they were playing it for them.  my friend thought that a&e just
needed an excuse to play it!  after leeds, jennifer from ulali blew kisses
to the crowd.  at the beginning of lc, a didn't really seem into it &
didn't even sing her whole harmony, but she was into it by the end.  a
broke another string on kid fears.  the audience sounded great singing
michael stipe's part.  last night & tonight, a pronounced spokane right in
hkf, with a little smile on her face.  ulali said that a&e had some friends
joining them tonight, so it was really cool when k's choice came out.  one
of the guys (i don't know anyone's name in k's choice) tried to sing a line
in bmhawk, but he really didn't know it, which was pretty funny.  the girl
sang her line really well though.  at msg & tonight, joel had a cool violin
solo in ctf.  some people held up a huge sign that said watershed in cool
cut out letters, which looked like it had taken a long time to make, & i
was surprised that a&e didn't play it.  my friend thought that those people
held up their sign at all the wrong times, so a&e never saw it, but i don't
know about that.  at one point, they said they were rearranging thir
setlist, but i'm not sure what they changed.  if anyone got a setlist (i
think sulli only gave out 2), please post what that setlist says.  i was
also surprised that they didn't play hand me downs, since last night, they
said they would.  i noticed that e was saying you-la-lee tonight.  a
mentioned that she borrowed josh siegel from his group, the borrowers.
after the show, i bought a cool t-shirt from a woman who was selling them
outside for $10.  i also bought an official one at the show, but i'm
wondering how legal it is to buy it from people outside.  it's a really
cool tie-dyed shirt (white w/ light blue & purple dye), w/ a big black sun
& clouds on the front & a cool sun & stars on the back.  the front says,
"indigo girls  live," & the back says, "shaming of the sun  1997 world tour
indigo girls," w/ 2 female symbols at the bottom of the "g."

fashion update: e was wearing a blue & white plaid flannel shirt &
blue/black pants. (i couldn't tell exactly what color they were.)  a was
wearing that shirt she loves w/ the red & black oval things w/ one sleeve
rolled up & white pants.  sara lee wasn't wearing black leather pants
tonight!  they were red & black plaid, & she was wearing the sara lee shoes.

best quote of the night (which isn't even that good, but it's the only one
i thought to write down): i wish you could hear the words clearer.  we got
so much to say!"-jennifer from ulali

on a side note, i found out who the girl who sang ctf at msg is.  she's
going to be a senior at colgate, & she's old friends w/ a&e.  she's a good
singer (she's actually in a colgate a cappella group), so a&e invited her
up to sing.  my friend goes to colgate & knows this girl.

so my 3 day indigo high is now over, but it was most definitely amazing!

andi

  -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
                                  andrea lipman
                        e-mail: ablipman@sas.upenn.edu
                 homepage: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ablipman

         "but the tides are always shifting, the land is never still
               you cannot tame a river and bend it to your will
                boundaries i believed in are melting into sand
          now it's me and my own footsteps starting over once again
          but they say there's only room for one kind..."-betsy rose
  _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

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hello everyone,

i saw this article in one of the local papers here (i live in manila), and it was credited to a writer from the hartford courant. reprinted without permission :-) ... apologies if this has been posted already. enjoy!

anna

p.s. there was a blurb, in big bold letters and large font, on the side of the article that pissed me off. it said: "being self-confessed lesbian lovers, activists and alternative musicians seems to have helped, not hurt the popularity of the indigo girls. and why not? it's their poetic and sincere lyrics coupled with haunting and ingenious musicality that matters most." unless, by "lesbian lovers," the writer meant that they love lesbians rather than that they are involved with each other, this is passing off as truth an impression that both of them have taken care to correct. i don't know who was responsible for writing the blurb -- might have been the local paper's editor or something -- but the bad thing is that very few articles about the ig come out here in asia, so most people who read this will probably end up believing it.
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indigo girls hit the road on a high note of popularity
by roger catlin

at a time when pop success comes when a first hit is also the last, atlanta's indigo girls have quietly built their popularity over more than a dozen years, so that when their sixth album was released this spring, it started at no. 7, the best showing yet for the duo.

"that's the funniest part," says indigo girl emily saliers, 33. "that first week, you wonder where you're going to land. it;s like entering a contest and wondering whether you'll win or not. it's our highest ever debut, with the most sold in a week. but numbers don't mean anything in the long run."

but numbers is what she and amy ray, also 33, have among their loyal fans, whose number has grown to the point where each success is gradually higher.

"i was reading about soundgarden," saliers says. "you know, they just got majorly successful in the last few years. but bands like that had been together, playing for a long time. that's the way it's been with us.

"i'm totally satisfied the things have gone," she says. "i think it's destructive to get real popular based on a couple of singles. especially for a band like us where the songs are so different from each other. if you're popular based on one or two songs, people don't get the whole picture."

the indigo girls' popularity is seen also on the current tour, where they'll be playing second dates in some cities and headlining madison square garden for the first time. although the two are excited about playing dates on the inaugural lilith fair (a summer tour), it will also mean they won't be headlining the sunday program at the newport folk festival for the first time in five years.

"we're so bummed about that," saliers says. "newport means so much to us. we love the people who run the show. and this year, they're paying tribute to joan baez, who is a dear friend and comrade. but we'll come back."

the indigos have a lot in common with baez, with their hearts as deeply in social change as in music. and while the indigos were integral in the honor the earth tour in 1995, the politics in this summer's tour are mostly left off the main stage.

the indigos took a year off after the last honor the earth tour, saliers says, giving them "lots of time to write and think and live."

after writing five albums, saliers says, "it gets harder. i think about it too much. also, you have to really stretch yourself to find new ways to say things."

having two songwriters in the duo is also a help, with ray pitching in the more rocking, hard-edged sounds, and saliers bringing a softer, more ethereal approach. "she brings something in that i could never do," saliers says of ray. "her style and musical sensibility is so different than what i do. it's like two different musical existences."

the indigos decided to produce their new album, with help from peter collins, since some of the producers they wanted to use were not available. the process, saliers says, was "exhausting but fun."

it ended up with a lot of experimentation and strange instrumentation to some tracks. instrumentation on the album includes a string section, talking drum, bazouki -- not all easy to reproduce on stage. but augmenting the live band, which also includes sara lee on bass and jerry marotta on drums, is josh segal on everything from violin to clarinet. "he's from the borrowers," saliers says. "we're borrowing him."

saliers, a native of new haven, met ray as a schoolgirl in suburban atlanta.

"we ended up in the same elementary school, high school, and college," saliers says. "fate guided our paths together."

they performed as saliers and ray while in high school, changing their name to indigo girls while at emory university in atlanta.

"we played local bars, and called radio stations, and just worked it until we got signed."

the young duo got a big boost from fellow georgians rem, whose lead singer, michael stipe, sang on the duo's first album and invited the then-unknown group to open the band's 1989 tour. "i don't think you can measue the kind of catalyst that is," saliers says.

saliers is happy to be playing ampitheaters. "they're exciting in a way that other venues aren't, just because of the sheer numbers, the bigness of it all," she says. "but i wouldn't be happy if we only played those venues. we really love playing clubs, too. places where people can stand and sit and watch."

after a moment she adds, "i like it all."

****

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 03:45:21 -0400
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from:         rachel rivera <spirits4@aol.com>
subject:      soy video!

hey y'all!!

we caught the soy video on vh1 and were thrilled to see amy & emily having
fun and making a statement...if any of y'all are wondering what the scrolled
words at the end of the video are, i wrote them down and translated them to
the best of my ability.  the translation is fairly loose and any other
interpretations are very welcome :))

"nuestra lucha es por la tierra, hablando en su corazon indio, la patria
sigue digna y con memoria, la patria que construimos es una donde quepan
todos los pueblos y sus lenguas, que todos los pasos la caminen, que todos la
rian [?] que la amanezcan todos.  aqui estamos, no nos perdimos.  zapata
vive, y al pesar de todo, la lucha sigue."  subcomandante insurgente marcos

"our fight is for the land, speaking in its indian heart, the homeland that
we've constructed is one where all towns and languages have a place, where
everyone can walk, laugh, and awake to.  we are here, we are not lost.
zapata lives and in spite of everything, the fight continues."

i hope this makes some sense!  it's late but we're still smiling :)

banjo dancin'
rachel & chris :))

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subject:      sarah mclachlan's new single on the web  (nigc)

if anyone is interested, sarah's new single will be web-casted this sunday
(june 8th) using liquid audio.
        for more info check out  http://www.nettweb.com

        tricia

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>><<someone named jon foggerty (?) was
>>>taping before and something was wrong with his tape so they had to redo some
>>>of the songs so we ended up waiting about three hours to get in.>>
>>>
snip
>
>but who will stop the rain since i am stuck in lodi again and i ain't no
>fortunate son?

aha - if you look for it really hard there's another ig connection here.  i
got a bumper package of boots a couple of days ago *waves at sue* and lo and
behold,  em's band hash do a cover of the ccr song lodi.  haven't listened
to it yet, but thought it was kind of relevant...

on another note, just been looking at the diva website (uk dyke mag) and
there's a section where you can pick your top 3 delectable diva's - there's
a huge pick list to choose from and i was pleased to see a certain amy ray
listed ...but no emily saliers - surely not! what an oversight!  you'll be
pleased to know that she's there now ;)  i'm afraid to say that neither
appear in the top 10 list though...and i'm not telling you who i voted for ;)
the url is...
http://www.gaytimes.co.uk/site/cgi-bin/play-rooms/index.cgi?who=l0bc80e68&wh
ich=f
...if anyone's interested.

ho hum,

seffy
(who can't believe she went to see beavis and butthead do america last
night, and is now seriously contemplating covering "fly with me, lesbian
seagull' at a gig tonight - anyone have the tab? ;))

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this is maybe a question for the aussies on the list. i have never seen
indigo girls live - i hope to if they ever come here again. i was wondering
if
anyone knew if aussie audiences sang along or screamed... i can't imagine
australians singing along at a concert, and i am just wondering if they do.

thanks

regards,
sandy

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 12:23:16 utc
reply-to:     kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
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from:         kate blackmon <kblackmon@lbs.ac.uk>
organization: london business school
subject:      re: hetrosexuality [sic] disliked on the ig list??....

monica burch <vtachmo@aol.com> invited flames by saying:

> [...] they were not putting down hetrosexuality, but
> the people from alabama. this i take offense to.

> things that were done in the past were just that, in the past.

> flame away.

in defence of the original post suggesting that alabama might
be better off further out in the gulf of mexico, alabama does seem to
have been in the news a lot for rabid homophobia over the past couple
of months -- not in the historical past.

the good burghers of alabama seem to have been particularly
particularly gay-unfriendly (and generally regressive) this
spring, having received nation-wide (not to mention
international) publicity for having:

  1. censored "ellen"'s coming out episode
  2. publicly condemned the ig concert at a public high school.

whilst individual citizens of alabama, such as yourself, may have a
more enlightened attitude, if the local establishment and elected
officials can put forth anti-gay & lesbian attitudes with the support
of the community at large, then people in other states have a valid
basis for holding unfavourable opinions about alabama -- as a whole.
no ifs, ands or buts.

> i am a lifelong resident of the state and yes we have our
> problems but so do other places.

i don't think alabama has been particularly singled out.  many people
feel the same way about north carolina, because of *its* elected
officials (e.g. senator jesse helms), church burnings, the recent
(may) passing of an anti-evolution/creationist bill mandating the
teaching of evolution in public schools as *not* being an established
scientific fact, and yesterday's refusal of public employees to help
set up the nc glbt pride march [raleigh news and observer, 5/6/97].
england has its share of gay-bashing tabloids, politicians, churchmen,
etc.

> the person who wrote such a statement obviously hasn't
> taking into consideration what they were saying, because
> they would realize that they were doing to the people of
> alabama what they stated was being to others.

so if no one points out that alabama seems to have its fair share (or
perhaps more) of homophobia, the problems will just go away?

> i don't know about you all but this sounds like reverse
> descrimination to me.

<boggle>. nope, doesn't sound like reverse discrimination to me.  not
at all.

> maybe we just all try to show those we come in contact with the we
> want and maybe we'll get it back.

it's nice to have a non-discriminatory attitude, but is that really
enough? a major point of the indigo girls' as performers and as people
is that everyone should work together to improve things, beginning at
the grassroots /community level. ... "i will not be complacent", after
all. we all should be voting, working for candidates, writing letters
to the editors, marching on the streets, etc., instead of saying
"well, i'm not like that". not just you, monica and brett, but
everyone on the list -- me included.

<deep breath>

here's your soapbox back -- thanks for letting *me* use it for a bit.

cheers,
kate
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someone wrote:

"amy had on some kind of silky light blue shirt and black flair
pants....(would fit in great at a sorority rush)....

no offense to any greek sisters out there, but

<gag, gag>

i am envisioning amy the feminist at a sorority rush....

i believe i will go heave now......

oh god......

peace, love and ig-
karrie

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on fri, 6 jun 1997, helen albans wrote:

> i also just wanted to say that i am having real trouble with sots. i wish i
> wasn't. i have hardly played it since i got it. i like some of the songs
> but not as many as i hoped. i see it's a new direction and i appreciate the
> girls might want to be looking into new things but something is missing. i
> know you've all probably discussed this already, just thought i'd say how i
> feel about it. i will try more over the weekend to get inside it somehow. i
> want to like it as much as my other precious favourites.
>
a friend of mine said of the album sots:

"i like it, but i really miss amy & emily and two guitars."

i agree.

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cincinnati college of pharmacy. actor, director, ibm fanatic, technical
writer, dog (jrt) lover, single guy, & much, much more! try my home page
at: "http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~vogelap"     "the only way out is through."
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dug: you da man! you da man!
ric: isn't "the man" the guy who's always bringing everyone down?
dug: nope! 'cause you da man!!
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hello all indigo-ies

i wonder if anyone on this list could help me.  first of all i would like to

apologise for the lack of ig content - it lacks it entirely, with the
exception
of my reasons for making a request to this list.

i make soundtext work and am working on a soundscape at the moment that is
based
on the idea of family.  family is a wierd thing, i guess it's a very
personal
thing, most people have grown up in some kind of family and it has a very
different influence on everyone - including different members within a
family.

i can honestly say this is one of the three lists (the ellen list would be
another) that i have been on in my six years
online that have provided a real sense of community and if feels like a
bunch of
good folk, a really really nice list.
which is the main reason i wanted to ask the following question to this
list.
please feel under no pressure to respond, agree, like what i am asking,
agree
with anything i say etc.

i am interested in recording the (spoken) voices of some of the list -
commenting on the idea of family. my reason for wanting to record other
people is that
i am interested in oral histories, other peoples stories and responses to
these
ideas.  i would state very clearly that i have never and never would use
someones
story against them, make fun of them, belittle their expression etc.

the question is: what do you think family is?

i am starting by contacting americans and canadians on the list who may be
interested in responding (doing it by the zone as they say).  i live in
australia - so to cut down on overheads i will keep the conversation short.
i will record
you through a device attached to my phone. if you wish to record and send me
a
sound file let me know.

now the only really big issue is that it means you are giving your phone
number
over the net to a woman over the other side of the world who could do
anything
with your voice. so i want to be really upfront about who i am and what i am
like.

i don't have many web pages up at the moment, but i do have one - which can
be
found at http://wollongong.starway.net.au/~voices/babies.html - and please
check
this out if you want to see something about me and about my life or
whatever.
i think you can find links that include a phone number etc there - but i
feel very strongly that you shouldnt be expected to give me your phone
number without
me doing the same so my phone number is +61 42 269980 - my address is 3/70
corrimal st, wollongong nsw and my email address is sandy@uow.edu.au
(amongst
others :-)).

now i should also warn you that whilst i am a woman, people (read: my mother
-
bless her) often think i am a man on the phone - but i just have a deep
voice.
so fear not, i am no axe murderer (well i am sure i have quashed your
fears).
moreover i *am* over the other side of the world.  i am not scary and i am
not
intrusive.

your input would eventually make its way onto a cd (credited if you wish it
to
be or not if you do not wish it) - however the cd would not be published
without
a signed agreement by any voice/story appearing on it - with appropriate
payment (based on a word/percentage and product basis - i'm not trying
to make money out of someone elses story).

if you have any questions, are interested - or could help in any way, please
contact me at sandy@uow.edu.au

i could contact people in the next four hours - or tomorrow night which is
between 20 - 30 hours from when you received this post. let me know when is
convenient to call and i will mail you privately.

regards and thanks for all your info on indigo gals,

sandy indlekofer-o'sullivan

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sorry i just reread my post and i made it sound like i think all men are axe
murderers.  i certainly don't - i like men.  my father is a man and so are
all my brothers... sorry about that.

regards,
sandy

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in a message dated 97-06-06 08:01:30 edt, you write:

<<
miss binky rocks!!!

         can i get an amen!!! >>


                                 amen......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hey everyone,

sandy wrote:
>anyone knew if aussie audiences sang along or screamed... i can't imagine
>australians singing along at a concert, and i am just wondering if they do.

oh, trust me, we do. :)  who can vouch for me -
lorinda?  deb?  dwayne?  gail?  hehe.

look out for the update to the ig faq (including
all the sots info), folks.  i will be posting it
to the list in the next few days, i swear...

happy albeit sleepy happy all,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"we're like waves out on the water, we touch then move away,
  living in a circle not a line;
  just seeing how much compassion in this world we'll find..."
                                - carrie newcomer

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hi all.

i will be going to spac tomorrow night, and was wondering if there was any
plan for a gathering.  i know lori was trying to get something together, but
she can't go now, so...

if nothing formal is planned, my fiance and i will be there around sixish
(hopefully earlier!)  we will probably park in the closest lot not reserved
for people with money to spend on the summer subscription.  he drives a
black 1995 vw jetta.  it has a few stickers on it, like fukengruven, the cat
in tha hat, a blue/black phish sticker, and nice people swallow on the back
window.  i'm the one on the crutches.  if you want to stop by, we'll be
grilling.  :)

thanks for your time....

kelly
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hey ya'll.  haven't been watching the posts lately, but thought i'd forward
this to ya'll.

peace,
- jen hall

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date: friday, june 06, 1997 2:34 am

9.  events.com: indigo girls; tibetan freedom concert;
    and trekkies

this week of events starts with a webcast and chat with the indigo
girls. on saturday, don't miss the tibetan freedom concert webcast
featuring a bevy of bands, including the beastie boys and blur.
and early next week, chat with the scenic masterminds behind "star
trek: deep space nine" and "voyager":

     http://www.cnet.com/content/features/events/ss01.html?dd

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subject:      ig trivia: we have a winner!

the answer to the ig trivia question i posted yesterday is that all the songs
are songs whose titles are not in the lyrics. the winner is wendell
<wlee@indy1.calarts.edu>, the first (and only) person to come up with the
correct answer. runner-up is samantha <swarnock1@juno.com> who said that all
the songs i listed are on the days of wine and roses boot. since this is also
true, both wendell and samantha get free boots. thanks for playing, everyone!
kirsten

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you may not have meant any harm by it, but considering this is supposed to
be a tolerant list, think about what you say. a lot of damn good people,
and yes, even some feminists, rush sororities. you're talking to one. and
you know what- i wore jeans during most of rush.

i'm not exactly the gung-ho greek type, but i am in a house, i did rush,
and i am a feminist, and it really pisses me off when people make rash
generalizations about the greek system. yeah, at some schools it's a meat
market type of thing, but at a lot of schools, it's just another social
outlet and a way to meet new people.

i know you probably didn't mean anything by it, and i don't usually jump to
defend the greek system, but i am a part of it, and i am a feminist, and i
just wanted to let you know.

thnaks,
sorry about the preaching-
sari- suddenly the advocate for sororities(scary!!!!!!)

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hi i was wondering if there is a snail mail address for the indigo girls
fan club?

nicola sutherland

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in a message dated 97-06-06 02:13:44 edt, ablipman@sas.upenn.edu (andi)
writes:

>  the new ig shirt is almost as strange as the naked woman & deer
>  buck.  it's a strange green color w/ two women talking '50s style on the
>  bottom.  it's hard to explain.

ok, here's the scoop on the green shirt.  i don't want to offend anyone, so
if you're bothered by sexual descriptions you better stop reading now.

my best friend, who came with me to the concert, is a sign-language
interpreter.  i also have taken many classes in asl (american sign language),
and can understand a lot but am not fluent in my expressive signing.  anyway,
if you look carefully at the two women on the shirt, they're signing to each
other.  the woman on the left is signing 'discuss'  and the woman on the
right is making the sign for female oral sex.   that is what my friend and i
first noticed, since we're familiar with that language.  then we tried to
look at it from the point of view of not knowing asl, and we decided that
maybe the woman on the left was just pointing something out and the woman on
the right was placing her hands on her chin, as if she was pondering
something.  i don't know what to think about the shirt.  is anyone else
familiar with asl and seen the shirt?

sheri :)

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i am very sorry if i offended anyone with my post about sororities....

i stereotyped and that was wrong.

i meant to offend no one.....

apologetically-
karrie

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subject:      dream or premonition

     this is so weird.   last night i had a dream that coca cola used gotm in one of
their commercials.  it went like this:  i'm gonna clear my head (banjo) i'm gonna drink
that sun (big banjo solo)  diet coke!
     maybe i was just really thirsty last night.
fellow list member,
heather

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in a message dated 97-06-06 03:37:33 edt, deb writes:

<< but overall i can't tell you how happy i am to hear that that story about
amy is making it's way over the net. though some laughed and thought it was
great, how do you all feel now?  >>

oh my god .... what a world. i think there just may be something to the
idea that a goodly portion of the public have tiny, pitiful little lives, and

as the great sojorner truth said "have thoughts no longer than their
little finger."
all i can say is "wake up !" please !

present company excepted, of course :)

claire

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subject:      the murmurs (nigc)

i heard the murmurs for the first time the other day and just had to get
their cd. it's awesome! do they have any other cds? leisha, the one with the
pink hair was in "all over me", which was a great movie. go see it if you
have a chance.

-becky (can't wait until gw tonight, see ya'll there)

"i still wanna know what it's like to be a butterfly" the murmurs

"like specks of dust we're universal"

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does anyone know when this will be airing on vh-1?  the pay-per-view is not
available in my area, and there are no ig concerts scheduled-i at least need
to see this vh1 thing!!!!

thanks in advance/rose

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subject:      missing

hey y'all-

sorry for the "me too"
>>"i like it, but i really miss amy & emily and two guitars."

i agree.<<

kl

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i am too going to the berkeley show and am dissatisfied with my general
admission seats.  if anyone has ideas on getting good seats please let me
know as well.  thanks!
peace,
diana

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on thu, 5 jun 1997, cathy haslam wrote:

> hey i still haven't received my tickets for the first show at the greek theatre
> in la on the 2nd.

> i leave on monday, and its all getting a bit close for comfort. anyone any
> thoughts about when we should expect them, or what my plan should be if they
> just never show up??


i don't know how long ago you ordered or from where, but usually (for sure
if it's ticketmaster) there is a record of your order and they can give
you a seat location at the door.  that gets you in and gives you the same
seats you would have had if you had received the tickets.  the only dicey
part is that they generally state that if the actual tickets show up, they
will be honored.  i think it's just a scare tactic so that you don't give
your tickets away and then get in on the seating location, but that's the
standard line.  we've never had a problem at any of our shows so you'll
probably be fine.  if they haven't arrived at your friend's by closer to
the show, you'll want to call ahead and confirm how they will handle it.
all this is true of ticketmaster in michigan, but i'd guess they're the
same all over.  in any case, since you ordered by phone the ticket seller
should be able to trace your order and make arrangements.

don't worry and enjoy the show :)


karra \ kmcleroy@umich.edu \ university of michigan office of major events
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beckie techinically they have 3 out the first one they put out themeselves
so i heard so good luck finding it the second was called the murmurs  and
the third was a maxi single called white rabbit with 2 versions of
jefferson airplanes white rabbit  carry me home and 2 new songs what song
did you hear by them my first song i heard by them was you suck leisha
appears in tha tmovie ill have to get it is it out on video or in the
hteather fill me in how much is she in it
hugs anthony van pyre

on fri, 6 jun 1997, becky lothrop wrote:

> i heard the murmurs for the first time the other day and just had to get
> their cd. it's awesome! do they have any other cds? leisha, the one with the
> pink hair was in "all over me", which was a great movie. go see it if you
> have a chance.
>
> -becky (can't wait until gw tonight, see ya'll there)
>
> "i still wanna know what it's like to be a butterfly" the murmurs
>
> "like specks of dust we're universal"
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we just heard that vh1 will be playing the soy video!!  it's 10:56 am pst
right now!!
good luck!!!

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i think someone is reading waay too much into the sign language thing, most
asl guides to sign also have directions as to which way the arms and hands
are to move. i *honestly* think it is just a spoof on the 50's frigidare
commercials....


least i hope so...

mike r.
*not too fluent in asl, but i know that much*

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subject:      soy video!

i don't know what happened to this message so here we go again :))))))))))

subj:   soy video!
date:   97-06-06 03:45:57 edt
from:   spirits4
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hey y'all!!

we caught the soy video on vh1 and were thrilled to see amy & emily having
fun and making a statement...if any of y'all are wondering what the scrolled
words at the end of the video are, i wrote them down and translated them to
the best of my ability.  the translation is fairly loose and any other
interpretations are very welcome :))

"nuestra lucha es por la tierra, hablando en su corazon indio, la patria
sigue digna y con memoria, la patria que construimos es una donde quepan
todos los pueblos y sus lenguas, que todos los pasos la caminen, que todos la
rian [?] que la amanezcan todos.  aqui estamos, no nos perdimos.  zapata
vive, y al pesar de todo, la lucha sigue."  subcomandante insurgente marcos

"our fight is for the land, speaking in its indian heart, the homeland that
we've constructed is one where all towns and languages have a place, where
everyone can walk, laugh, and awake to.  we are here, we are not lost.
zapata lives and in spite of everything, the fight continues."

i hope this makes some sense!  it's late but we're still smiling :)

banjo dancin'
rachel & chris :))

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hi everyone,

i was at the pnc concert last night and all i have to say is wow.  i went
to philly last friday and although it was a good concert it just didn't
compare to last night.  a was her usual crazy, full of energy, jumping
around the stage self.  but the great part was that e was doing the same
thing.  they just looked so happy to be on that stage last night.  the
variety of music that they played was incredible.  everyone in the place
was up and dancing.  i just wanted to share my experience a bit.  for those
of you who haven't seen the concert yet, just wait - it's unbelievable.

peace,

stacey

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subject:      that atlanta/chastain afterglow... :-d

well, i too am still basking in the afterglow of atlanta/chastain!  i got
back in town late on 5/29 'cause i also visited my folks in ky following
my magnificent weekend/ig listee bonding experience in atlanta.  i haven't
had a chance to read the gazillion list digests i've received, so maybe
this question has already been asked and answered.  i'm wondering...is anyone
taping the ppv special and willing to dub it or set up a tape tree/branch/leaf
thingy?  ya see, intermedia here in nashville will not be carrying the ig
ppv special.  i am absolutely *livid* over it, but there's not much i can
do about it.

peace and thanx,

joan :-d

p.s. -  a big "howdy" to all the cool listees i met and hung out with in
atlanta...you know who you are :) :) :)  i'll be writing all of you
very, very soon. :-d

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not sure where the original post regarding the greeks originated, but i just wanted to say that not all panhellenic organizations are alike.  for that matter, a sorority that acts one way on one campus may not on another.  i can point to really only one sorority on the campus of my alma mater that i would ever have considered...the rest seemed(note this word...i used it instead of were) to be full of airheaded, promiscuous, alcoholic bluebloods whose sole purpose at college was to acquire the right clothes/accessories/men/future business contacts.  i'm not saying that all sororities are this way...or that any other campus's chapters would be the same.  i'm just saying that i understand a distaste for some of the greek system.  that's all.

the good thing about them all is that they all had some philanthropic thing...they all would give money/time to an organization or cause...something not everyone on campus would take the time to do.
too many people don't bother to give back to the community that supports them, or to care about more than their own minds and their own advancement.  (hmm...a wise woman said, "...learn how to use my hands, not just my head...")  the greeks did.  see, kids?  there's a little good and a little evil in everyone, it seems.  = )

jennifer w.

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<< but overall i can't tell you how happy i am to hear that that story about
amy is making it's way over the net. though some laughed and thought it was
great, how do you all feel now?  >>


so...although you felt it was wrong...you are glad that everyone is now reading a post you thought shouldn't have been made in the first place?  o....kay.

jennifer w.

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subject:      ppv-primestar question

i just have a question for anyone who has primestar on the west coast.  i
noticed in my friends primestar guide that the ppv starts at 6pm.  i am
assuming that is because of the time difference between east and west coast.
i would think that because the ppv is on satellite it would actually start
at 9pm?  anyone out there who can help me in my confused state, please email
me.

have an indigo day....

rose

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 12:30:12 -0700
reply-to:     "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
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from:         "lynn cardamone (lca)" <lynncar@microsoft.com>
subject:      indigo girls ppv news update

fyi
direct tv
updated information about tonight's ppv - just received a few minutes
ago here in seattle.
:)
lynn in seattle
see original mail below...

> ----------
> from:
> sent:         friday, june 06, 1997 12:14 pm
> to:
> subject:      ppv     ig
>
> i'm on the phone with direct tv right now and trying to order the ppv.
> it looks like channel 101 is showing the 10-15min video that they
> showed
> at the listening party!  it appears that they are just playing it over
> and over again.  you may want to post that to the ig list.
>
> aiko
>

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i just caught the soy video on vh1 about an hour ago.  it's wonderful!
a&e playin and looking like they're having a good time interspursed (now
how the heck do you spell that?) with shots of hispanic people (and folks
of other ethnicities too i believe) dancing up a storm.  during the 1694
line there's a black and white shot of what i think is supposed to be
some european immigrants a lot of years ago.  all in all, the video
complements the song really well.  it highlights the political issues
addressed in the song but still maintains a light, having fun, jamming
and dancing kinda thing like the song itself does.
   watching, i thought, ya know, they're gonna play this some more.  a
lot more.  and i think that's a good thing.  i understand the stuff about
being a little ambivalent about ig going top 40's but while i was
watching the video, i started thinking, everyone needs to see this
video.  talk about refreshing!  good values and rockin music at the same
time.  what a novel concept.
    plus, amy and emily both look great (amy gets way more camera time
singing lead and all)  sara and even sulli get into a few shots as well!
i think sulli fixes something on em's banjo while she's playing it.


gotta go run some errands, not the least of which is picking up a blank
video tape for the ppv show tonight.  have fun everyone.

                  -colleen

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 14:54:55 -0500
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at 01:40 pm 6/6/97 pdt, you wrote:
><< but overall i can't tell you how happy i am to hear that that story about
> amy is making it's way over the net. though some laughed and thought it was
> great, how do you all feel now?  >>
>
>
>so...although you felt it was wrong...you are glad that everyone is now
reading >a post you thought shouldn't have been made in the first place?
o....kay.

you need to read that comment in context with the rest of what i wrote. no i
am not happy to hear that story is making the rounds. i was being incredibly
sarcastic. don't take words out of context.

deb

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from:         trant batey <twb@zycor.lgc.com>
subject:      therese please read - nigc

sorry guys but therese at : @myhost.com@lgc.com just sent me email and
for some reason i can't reply directly to her so i'm having to use the
list.

regarding pay-per-view concert,

hi therese,

i'd be happy to make a copy of the concert for you. just send me a
check for $10.00 and your mailing address and i'll send a copy to
you in the mail. or, you can send me a tape and a sase to return it
to you. if you send a t120, let me know if you want the entire concert
at the lp speed, or if you want just the ig part at the sp speed.

let me know,

trant


my address is:

trant batey
2105 b. courtney
austin, tx 78745

p.s.    this offer is of course still open to the list in general.

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 16:33:14 edt
reply-to:     dlmsduncan@juno.com
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from:         derek duncan <dlmsduncan@juno.com>

following are all the radio stations that list member would like to be
emailed requesting indigo girls be played. specic djs are listed if they
were sent  to me.   if you would like to participate, please start with
the station where your birthday is listed.  move down the list one spot
each week until you have comleted the list.  this will ensure that each
station receives requests spread throughout the next 6 weeks, not all at
once.

turnout was not as great as i expected, but we can go ahead anyway.  if
you would like to have your station added to the list, let me know and i
can add it.

if anyone has any success stories, noticing that ig get more airlplay,
let us know!

a couple of guidelines:
1.  sending requests to stations that are not in your listening area is
ok, but do not say that you are a listener if you are not.  just asking
that they play more ig is the point here.

2.  if your email address is geographic specific, please do not send to
any stations that are not in your listening area.  if you have aol,
compuserve, juno, hotmail or other non-specific email address- please
join in.

3.  do not send one email message with all of these stations as
recipients, or they will know something is up.  send an individual
message to each station.

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january-february birthdays- start here
z104.5 , "the edge"
edgetulsa@aol.com
tulsa, oklahoma.
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march-april
boulder/denver area
kbco boulder
kbco@kbcoradio.com

kpxk denver-evergreen
radio@thepeak.com
jackie selby (mornings) js@the peak.com
ginger (midday) ginger@thepeak.com
gary (program director) gary@thepeak.com

ktcl denver
adventure@ktcl.com
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kkdm 107.5
des moines, ia
kkdm@kkdm.com
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july-august

morninguys@aol.com
wabb 97.5 fm
mobile, al
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cincinnati, oh (really milford)
channelz@one.net
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november-december

taipei
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kev@icrt.com.tw
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subject:      great woods pronto...help help

if anyone's going through waltham, my dear friend (i actually can't stand
her) heather needs a ride to the concert. as a payment for the ride,
heather is offering a free ticket...

anyone? anyone?

e-mail me privately puh-lease
-liz-
lturcotte@star.net

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right now via ticketmaster online!

i have no idea what happened - it's not even listed in the weekkly
on-sale, it wasn't on sale this morning.  must have gone on sale at noon.

i just got row a (don't know if that's first row - depends on what's
going on with the orchestra pit) which is way better than my wednesday
tickets.

hurry up while the good tickets are still available!

alison
glad for once that she compulsively checks tickemaster twice a day ...

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subject:      more ig trivia

a free boot goes to the first person who can answer the following question
correctly:
what do the songs "history of us", "language or the kiss", and "leeds" have in
common?
kirsten

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hey, ya in list land...

i turned on my direct tv this morning and ordered the concert (for only
$12.95 from where i'm at).  they were also showing/repeating continuously
the 9-10 minute promotional video that was being given away with their new
cd.  it's really cool that direct tv is going this!

yeyyeee!!

have a great concert...and for me i'll be enjoying it at home (and taping
it :)

seona
sb2@axe.humboldt.edu

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subject:      re: berkeley, sf shows!

me too, me too, i'd love to go to a gathering. has anyone ever been to this
theater before when there were reserved seats? which ones are reserved? i
talked to some people that have been to the greek theater before and both
said that they didn't see how they could have reserved seating. does anyone
know if there is going to be dancing? counting the days. . .

-catherine

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sorry had to respond to this one.

for someone who just had a really big attack on someone being un-pc -
whoever just posted about being 'greek' did a pretty fine job about it too.
i guess by greek, you are talking about some american college thing - well i
had
to read through your cultural stuff to realise that you weren't having a
'go'
at greek people. i agree that one of the cool things about this list is that
there is acceptance, but a bit of cultural tolerance is nice too, including
leaving aside assumptions that all people on the list do not understand
middle
class american appropriations of other peoples cultures (mine to be
specific).

regards,
a real greek. also an aussie.

sandy

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i guess you missed the demo tour. almost every show they've played since
the honor tour has been amy and emily and two guitars.  i find it kind of
refreshing to hear some full ensemble work myself, although i do love
their accoustic work.

> >
> a friend of mine said of the album sots:
>
> "i like it, but i really miss amy & emily and two guitars."
>
> i agree.
>
> ===========================================================================
> drew vogel: coordinator of professional programs at the university of

*********************
lamah rag'shu goyim
ul'umim yeh'gu rik?
*****gwen keyt******
seattle pacific university
bsn class of 1997!!!
gkeyt@paul.spu.edu

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hey y'all,

i saw a post to the list a couple days ago (can't remember who it was,
sorry) about the ig having a video called "the indiscreet mrs. jarvis" on
sale at cd now.  i e-mailed customer service about it and here was the
reply:

>>dear karen,
        the video that you ordered, "the indiscreet mrs. jarvis", is most likely a
music video about the indigo girls.  i was not able to find much
information, but since it was grouped with all of their cd's i would assume
that it is a music video.

yours truly,

jason knight
customer service, cdnow<<

i'll let y'all know more when i get the video.

karen

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from:         urvashi pitre <urma@juno.com>
subject:      indigo girls on zone!!!!!

hey people!! just found out that 93.3 the zone (dallas, fort worth, etc.)
is going to play tonight's concert on the radio starting at 8!!! i am so
excited!!

running out to buy good tapes so we can get this one. if it works out
that will be so cool!!!

didnt want anybody who didn't know to miss out.

urvashi urma@juno.com

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from:         jen olson <max643@aol.com>
subject:      re: greatwoods net b'cast url!!!

in a message dated 97-06-06 02:41:59 edt, you write:

<< it will be at:


http://www.station.sony.com/siren/

many westwood one affiliates b'cast on the web as well. (i heard mrl on the
www) so if you get shut out of the site above (or in case the stream is
better someplace else) check out audionet too!
  >>

aaah!  somebody help---i can't get the ppv, and i'd really like to listen in
on this.  i checked out the site, and it said to come back at 9 eastern time
to catch the concert.  but i'm wondering--am i going to need real audio or
something, and if so, how/where do i get it... (i'm so technically
challenged..)  any help is appreciated, asap, as i only have an hour and a
half to figure this out :-)
                                                    ~ thanks ~

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>********************************
>9.  events.com: indigo girls; tibetan freedom concert;
>    and trekkies
>
>this week of events starts with a webcast and chat with the indigo
>girls. on saturday, don't miss the tibetan freedom concert webcast
>featuring a bevy of bands, including the beastie boys and blur.
>and early next week, chat with the scenic masterminds behind "star
>trek: deep space nine" and "voyager":
>
>     http://www.cnet.com/content/features/events/ss01.html?dd
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according to the internet movie database (http://www.imdb.com) 'the
indiscreet mrs. jarvis' is a movie from 1955. neither amy or emily were
even born then. :) i am not sure what this video for sale at cdnow is
exactly but a movie by the same name was released in 1955, that's all i
know.

keep in mind cdnow told us the digi-pak limited edition sots had more or
longer songs than the jewel case sots. i think they'll say anything to make
a sale. of course i would be delighted to find out the video does have igc
but i doubt it. if you already ordered the video you might be able to
cancel your order or get a refund when it arrives and you determine it has
nothing to do with ig at all.
maybe it's a really great movie and you'll want to keep it. :)

kristina

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can someone please tell me what website i need to go to
to get the indigo girls great woods concert simulcast?

thanks!

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subject:      gwa online help!

please e me privately if you can tell me how to link to tonights concert on
line.
desperately in need of ig
kath

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subject:      (darwc)okay i hate to ask this question, but...

okay i feel so gossipy and stuff but... is dar williams gay?  i was
just wondering (okay, i wasn't, my friend was, but didn't want to post
it).  i thought it was mentioned on here a while ago? mind telling me
if ya know?

    leah
    indigirl@ix.netcom.com

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for those who have ordered the midnight/second concert showing and are
wondering about concert run times on the ig ppv special (for taping
purposes)..the ppv special started without showing an opening band.  this
may be a two set show...

cathy

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ugh.

y'all will understand if i vent about not being able to get the
great woods broadcast, won't you? if not, delete away...

after looking forward to getting the ppv concert for over a month, i
realized that my stupid dummyhead cable operator doesn't have the ppv that
is carrying the concert. not surprising with my cable operator.

ok. no problem. i'll get it on the web, right? wrong. after an hour of
going through the websites trying to get all set up, i figure out that i
need real audio 3.0 which my computer does not have the system
requirements for. *sigh* two concert web broadcasts down the missed now.

peace and super bouncy balls,
amy

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subject:      second ig trivia question: we have a winner

the winner is jan <jmonfort@vannet.k12.wa.us>, who correctly answered that what
history of us, language or the kiss, and leeds have in common is:
> they have emily in a hotel room somewhere.
thanks for playing, everyone!
kirsten

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reply-to:     "david.p.murray" <david.p.murray@arthurandersen.com>
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hello all,

i got a few emails from some of you regarding the disney video and i have lost
them as my machine was upgraded ( long story and i'm not a happy camper ).
please email again. i'm getting it from a kind soul - jean.

dave.
anxiously awaiting blossom!!!!

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 23:06:41 edt
reply-to:     kirsten chevalier <kirsten@spike.wellesley.edu>
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subject:      gw setlist

i only listened to the concert on the radio, so i won't say much about it, but
i wanted to be the first to post the setlist:

secure yourself
it's alright
shame on you
least complicated
don't give that girl a gun
caramia
i don't wanna know
ghost
scooter boys
get out the map
this train (revised)
burn all the letters
? (danielle howle solo)
leeds
shed your skin (with baby-puppy-evoking background vocals by ulali)
everything in its own time
chickenman
galileo
hey kind friend
wild horses (w/ michelle malone)
bury my heart at wounded knee
closer to fine

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 23:20:18 -0400
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subject:      re: greatwoods net b'cast url!!!

since i can't figure out how to make realaudio work, i've
decided to watch "manufacturing consent" instead.
i figure it's kinda the same thing :)

:)
claire
p.s. hey !!! guess who our comencement speaker is at
evergreen this year ?????

winona laduke !!!

:)

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 22:28:40 -0500
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one more message for those taping the second showing of the ig ppv:

the early showing (9pm est) started live into the ig's set.  their entire
portion will fit on a two hour tape.  after the concert ends the video loops
back to show the opening act(s?)--right now daniel howle..wait..emily just
intro'd ullali and said some films would follow them.  it seems like there
is some cut and paste going on to save downtime.

so..if ppv shows it in this sequence again: 2 hours ig, ~50 minutes openers
and films

hope you find this useful (if i had known i would have done a few things
differently myself),

cathy

.......oh yeah!!!...it's a great show folks!

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 22:15:36 pdt
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fellow listees:

i want to publicly apologize to deb reiser.  i did not understand her post (regarding being happy that the fake ig article had made it to other groups) as sarcasm, even when read in context.  i misunderstood it to be an "i told you so" post, and i answered it as such.  i hope that she can forgive me, and that you will forgive me for wasting your time/space with inane bickering.  i did not intentionally post to the list, and i am sorry.  thanks for your time.

jennifer w.

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 23:31:56 -0400
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subject:      barefoot at great woods?

ok everyone,

   i just finished watching the ppv special and i have one question.  why did
amy take off her shoes???  sometime in the middle of the performance i
suddenly realized she wasn't wearing anything on her feet!  what is going on
here?  is this a normal occurence?  does she usually go barefoot for half the
performance?  i know in the beginning she was wearing some kind of black
shoes but then suddenly they were gone.  i don't get it...she was complaining
about it being cold!  why did she take of her shoes?  i just started laughing
at that...you never know what to expect from her.  god, i love them.  anyway,
i guess i'll leave the review for someone who was actually there, you lucky
ducks.

~liz~

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date:         fri, 6 jun 1997 23:49:55 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <io20742@maine.maine.edu>
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this is partial as i could not get onto the sony site for 19  minutes and
it was u.pitre's message that the zone in dallas was broadcasting it.  as a
result i found it on audio net via isdn stereo.  i think i missed a few
songs.  i also strongly believed that they played a song after closer to
fine.   the set list as far as i know (i was busy and missed a few songs):
1.) dtgtag
2.) caramia :-)
3.) i don't wanna know
4.) ghost
5.) skooter boy's
6.) gotm
7.) this train
8.) ??? (i thought it was shed your skin, but i was distracted and wrong)
9.) danielle howle
10.) leeds
11.) shed your skin
12.) chickenman/mr. buzzard soc
13.) galileo
14.) hey kind friend
15.) wild horses (with michele malone)
16.) bmhawk
17.) closer to fine

i think i missed the first three songs...sorry, i had an extremely
difficult time hooking up to a server carrying the show. (thank god i
didn't have to deal with dialing into a modem pool)  the epic site did not
connect for nearly half an hour.  like i said it was only because i checked
my e-mail that i realized that it was being broadcast from dallas and that
i could pick up that station on real audio.  i truly think hearing them on
a broadcast such as this was like seeing a show.  it seemed as if they
played it very, very conservative by not playing songs like chiapas bound,
or winthrop.  personally, hearing it sounded as if hartford was better, but
i want to see the video before making judgements.
however, if they had some sort of system by which you could tap into every
show on this tour--my credit card would be maxxed.  i really enjoyed the
experience of listening to the show with my best friend in my apartment
without having to travel hundreds of miles.  if they offered a show
tommorrow night i would be the first to subscribe.  hearing them tonight
was much clearer, (soundboard recording), than hearing them from the front
row in hartford.   very happy for tonight, (isn't it a shame that i had to
sell seventh row seats. i don't think so.)
mike r.
happily at home, ready to hear the tibetan freedom concert tommorrow and
sunday)
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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 12:19:42 +0800
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from:         anna hidalgo <anna@fillib.org.ph>
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hey kirsten,

another thing those three songs have in common is that each of them ends
with the title, ie. "unforgiving the choice still is the language or the
kiss." then: "until time makes history of us." and lastly, "the pristine
sheets of the hotel bed in leeds."

'twas the first thing that came to my mind. :) does it count?

anna

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subject:      post show-great woods

hi y'all-
   i'm on my second viewing of the show--that's the cool thing about a format
such as this--you don't have to come down right away from the show...you can
just keep watching and watching and watching and watching....... back to
videoland!!
                                                  chelle {o}---:::

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subject:      wild horses on ppv special

i'm trying to figure where else i have heard this song before.  i'm
drawing a complete blank.  does anyone have any ideas?  thanks.

elizabeth

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hi there!
i've made a web page with some pictures from the great woods webcast.
fantastic show!  for those of you who missed it or just want to stare at
some pretty pictures, check it out...
http://www.crl.com/~ddickson/indigo/great2.html
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just a few impressions...

yes it was cold.  whta happened to june?

sat in the first couple of rows of th second half of the pavilion,
amy's side.  we had to compete with a camera boom and constant in and
out traffic in our row to see the stage, but we had a good view.  why
is it that people spend good money to see the show live but cant sit still
to watch it?  two women in our row must have come and gone at least 3
times.

during "shame on you", at the line "the white folks like to pretend it's
not..."  they turned the lights on the audience....a comment about the
audience make up?  the friend i saw the show with commented after this
that the audience cheered here too....odd.

overall, i thought it  was good.  everyone seemed to be having a good
time.  amy's guitar tech was quick with replacements when she broke
strings.  they were not as chatty as i thought they would be.  given
how excited they seemed at unh about having open cable time, i was
expecting more.  but, it was good all the same, and even better to
come home and find that the vcr taped successfully :)  i was sorry to miss
the boston tailgate party, but we got caught in nasty traffic.  it
was good to connect with those we did find after the show. with tt
the bear's thursday night with lift and michelle maline, great woods
tonight, and more fabulous entertainmetn at boston pride tomorrow,
it's been a good weekend for music!

off to bed......

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pegasus@crl.com            \     /      when you're alone
monk@world.std.com          \   /
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well, everyone hello and it's good to be back!  after a couple a' years
off of the list (due to an untimely draft into the israeli army!) i'm
finally back on the list and back in the states!  <hey rob, shelly, you
still out there?!?)

in any case...back to the igc...who can guess what my first concert back
in states was...50 points to anyone who answered ig!!!  as usual...they
rocked!  i was quite impressed at the amount of new material they
played!  almmost the entire sots cd (who ever hasn't bought it yet
reeeeeealy should!) i was however disappointed that they didn't play
chickenman?!?  it's the first concert that i've been to that they didn't
play it...

rain...you still out there?!?

i have decided that imho yankees don't know how to party (no-offense).
my entire area was sitting down and when i got up to dance i got yelled
at...i miss living in charleston!!!

well, this is getting tooo long so i guess i'll sign off now!  is
there anyone left from the old ctf list?!?  wrtie to me!

love ya'll

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hey all.

it was a very exciting show.  i actually watched it twice and i enjoyed it
the second time more because less things cought me off guard.  like all
the instrument changes and guests on the stage.  it seemed to me like they
ere really having a good time.  especially emily.  and i finally like her
haircut.  speaking of the queen of quick fingers, is anyone else thinking
what i'm thinking?  that the new album has a lot less emily solo guitar?
i mean, there are plenty of solos on the album,  but they are a lot
simpler than what she came up with in the old days.  (strange fire, land
of canaan, welcome me).  i guess i'm just nostalgic for seeing her rip
apart a guitar with her pick.

more observations:
was jerry marotta wearing a skirt?
sara lee plays whistle into a floating mic in hkf (optical illusion)
ulali can't stand still
sys is much better live
caramia is much better live
josh segal is hot
they never jam on emily songs
who ran up and gave amy a folder?
they showed the list banner!

anyway, i taped it both on vhs and dat.   whoever is working on a tree, i
can provide seeds, but i can't be a branch because i am moving in a wee.
the quality is great.

wendell

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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 02:44:22 -0400
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we did it guys!!! way cool!!

i just got home from great woods and my *awesome* girlfriend had the video
all cued up so i could watch the *exact* moment that our banner went down in
history!!! at the end after emily walks off stage they start panning the
crowd and there you see alt.music.indigo-girls!!

the show was awesome the tailgate gathering was a complete success, even if
we did get stuck in traffic. i met a bunch of really great people!! i won't
go into details of the show as i'm sure you will get all great reviews from
the expert review writers who where there with us.

can't believe i am sitting here at 2:52am writing this...... <grin>

ps. happy pride day!!!

- jan
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sorry i am posting this to the list, but i lost the e-mail addy of whom i am
supposed to send this to.  take me off the list of getting together before
the concert next week.  my friends don't want to do it anymore,a nd aas much
as i am disapointed about it, i can't force them to go.  they would just be
all whiney and crabby about the whole thing.  sorry.  if possible though,
could someone tell me how to actually get to the fraze pavillion.  it would
be much appriciated since my internet access has become ill and died
recently.  thanks.....
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so, i've been looking forward to this ppv thing for a while now.  the
commercials have been running, i buy a bllank tape, i call and order, i
think i'm all good to go.  9pm, channel 80, what comes on?  decidedly not
ig.  it was the world fighting championships or something to that
effect.  i call the cable companyb and all they can tell me is "it's the
feed, we're working on it but it's not our fault."  after a half hour and
still no ig, i cancelled it.  i am really pissed.  oh and the commercials
had said 9pm with a repeat at midnight in selesct areas.  so i ask the
woman on the phone if they're showing it at 12.  she says, "well, what
does it say in the tv guid?"  i say i don't know and explain about the
commercial.  she says, "well, is it in your area."  i don't know!  that's
what i'm asking you!  so she finally checks for me and gives me a rather
noncomittal no (more like, well i don't know about it so i guess not.)
so that's it.  i missed it.


so now my plea.  i hadn't been following the conversations about the
various ethical issues related to distributing copies of the tape because
i figured i was getting it on ppv and lack the facilities to copy video
tapes so i wasn't gpoing to be copying it for anyone else.  but now, i
don't have it and i'd like to know if any kind soul did tape it and is
willin to make me a copy.  or is there even a tree set up?  i mean, i was
all set to pay my money, all legit and everything but the damn cable
company, well, they can bite me.

sorry to bitch but i really am rather ticked off.  any help getting a
copy will be much appreciated.  ok, i've gotta get some sleep.  goodnight
everyone.

                     -colleen

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so like i said, i missed the ppv show thanks to a cable company screw
up.  someone had mentioned that danielle howle was to be featured on the
ppv show.  was that in fact the case?  if so, how was it done.  ulali
opened didn't they?

         -colleen

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i have seen three posts asking questions about ga seating for the greek
theater on the u.c. berkeley campus.  i have a long message which answers
those questions, but i feel it's too long to post to the list... i'd be
happy to send it to anyone via private email... i've already sent it to
the three who posted the original questions (lisa, diana, and catherine).

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>so like i said, i missed the ppv show thanks to a cable company screw
>up.  someone had mentioned that danielle howle was to be featured on the
>ppv show.  was that in fact the case?  if so, how was it done.  ulali
>opened didn't they?

amy introduced danielle and she (danielle) sang a few songs. emily
introduced ulali and they sang a few songs. then a&e both introduced a
couple of previews that ran a total ~10 minutes for two
films/documentaries. this all made up ~50 minutes of the show and it was
shown after the 2 hour ig concert (even though dh and ulali sang before ig
in reality). danielle also sang one song solo during the ig set so a&e
could take a short break. i'm happy they played the soy video at the end,
i'll probably never be lucky enough to catch it on mtv or vh1 when i'm
visiting a friend who has cable. i still can't get over the fact ig had
their very own ppv special. wow. we are so fortunate. :) they sounded
incredible! loved jerry's skirt and amy's white socks. chickenman ruled, as
always; a added the mr. buzzard verse. dgtgag really moved me, more than it
ever has before. bmhawk rocked. so many cool moments, i can't wait til
everyone has their own personal copy! i wish i had some ig fans to watch it
with, my friend came in every 10 minutes just to say something mean about
amy or whatever song they were playing (he knows how to push my buttons).

kristina

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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 06:00:56 -0400
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from:         susan burk <sooz911@aol.com>
subject:      ig avis from great woods
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i taped the ig concert at a friends' house & since he just happens to have a
video capture board on his computer, i was able to create a few avi files for
my web page from the show. from my main page click on 'video clips' right
under the heading "video gallery" i'm still working on my page so it's a bit
disorganized yet.

enjoy....
susan

http://www.geckotech.com/sooz911

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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 07:33:08 -0400
reply-to:     hunterj1@aol.com
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from:         hunterj1@aol.com
subject:      re: the indiscreet mrs. jarvis

wow, karen :)  don'tcha love to get those *profound * letters?  i'm going to
print this one off and tack it right up on my wall next to one i got from a
personnel office telling me thanks-but-no-thanks on a writer's
position...interesting except it was replete with grammatical errors :)

>dear karen,
>          the video that you ordered, "the indiscreet mrs. jarvis", is most
> likely a music video about the indigo girls.  i was not able to find much
>  information, but since it was grouped with all of their cd's i would
assume
>  that it is a music video.
>
>  yours truly,
>
>  jason knight
>  customer service, cdnow<<

ok, okay already.....

jude :)

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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 07:50:08 -0400
reply-to:     "karrie a. bowen" <karrie@ncinter.net>
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from:         "karrie a. bowen" <karrie@ncinter.net>
subject:      nigc-  if anyone is interested, i have some now stuff...
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hey y'all-

if anyone is at all interested about keeping abreast of all the latest
governmental decisions pertaining to women, i have some news releases that
the national organization for women sent me via email, and i would be
happy to forward them to any and all who ask....

i figured since amy and emily are supporters of women's rights, this was a
great forum to pass this stuff on...

peace, love and ig-
karrie, who cannot wait until thursday!  blossom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;)

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from:         nicole yonke <nix64@aol.com>
subject:      ppv review...amy barefoot?!? ;)

hey everyone!

     i just got home from my sister's friends house because she delightfully
informed me after school today that she just happened to have
directtv....which just happened to be broadcasting the ppv from great woods
for $12.95.  woo hoo!!!  it was _incredible_!!  here's the set list...with a
few comments of my own.  followed by a fashion review and a review of the
after concert stuff.
set list:
1.  secure yourself - great opening number, they seemed to be enjoying
themselves
2.  it's alright - emily couldn't stop smiling ;)
3.  shame on you - everyone was having fun...the audience really got into it!
the cutest thing of the evening had to be amy when she says, "when the
beautiful ladies..."  she had this goofy smile on her face and rolled her
eyes.  precious!
4.  least complicated - lots of audience participation!
5.  dgtgag - wow!!!  amy was great!!
6.  caramia - both amy and emily were really into this.  you can tell that it
is one of emily's favorites
7.  i don't want to know (with michelle malone)  one big hootinanny (nice
spelling...huh?)  everyone was smiling and really having fun with this one.
a&e seemed really pleased to have michelle perform with them.
8.  ghost - beautiful as ever! ;)
9.  scooter boys - i don't know what happened with amy's guitar, but she
ended up just standing there without one and started yanking at her
collar...she really got into it!
10.  gotm - fun had by all!  another cute moment:  emily said, "this one's
for my homegirls in atlanta!" =)
11.  burn all the letters (with ulali) - amy kinda drifted on this
one...still loved it!
12.  this train revised - i don't think i've ever seen an entire stage of
people get into a song like they all did on this one....incredible!!!
13.  a song by danielle howle (sp ?)
14.  leeds (with ulali) -  gawd i love emily! ;)
15.  shed your skin - amy came out with no shoes on!!!!!!!  she did the rest
of the show barefoot!!!  it was the coolest thing!  is this something usual
for amy?  this song was great...but i couldn't get my eyes off of amy's feet!
=)
16.  everything in it's own time - i've never been able to get into this
song, it was pretty though
17.  chickenman - complete with the buzzard verse...amy rocked!
18.  galileo - great sing-a-long! ;)
19.  hey kind friend - one of my favs!  amy looked out into the audience as
if she was pondering some deep thought and then she says..."it's cold!"
-----> some women jumped on stage and handed amy a binder and was_very_ glad
to meet her.  a&e joked about having the women sign a release form because
she was going to be on tv ;)
20.  wild horses(with michelle malone) - michelle just kicks ass..i am
officially convinced! =)
21.  bmhawk (with ulali) - very powerful!  after this song, emily talks about
how she loves boston and says something like "how 'bout them patriots?"  and
she put on a patriots hat and wore it the rest of the show! ;)
22.  closer to fine - big smiles =)

fashion review:
amy:  light blue and peach very cool floral shirt tucked in, black
well-fitting pants, black shiny shoes(until sys) ;)
emily:  red and yellow vertically striped shirt untucked, yellow pants, cool
docs, dark blue nail polish, violet eyeliner (proof that she was
jammin'...her nail polish was all chipped by the end of the night) go em! ;)

after the concert, there were a few clips: amy came out and introduced
danielle howle and she performed (pre-recorded) and then emily came out and
introduced ulali who performed a couple songs.  then the girls introduced two
short films by directors from the atlanta area.  very cool films!  then...the
"shame on you" video. i love it!  praise to the ppv people and amy and emily
and their band and michelle and danielle and sara lee and the girl with the
binder and boy this is a run-on sentence, i'm tired.  the whole thing was
incredible!! i'm sure i saw all of you that were there, there were tons of
audience shots!  wish i could have been there! ;)

sorry so long...i'm going to bed
peace y'all,
nicole

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reply-to:     anne hill <achill@rica.net>
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i am so jealous of all you all who got to see (or even hear) this concert.
i just wondered what the final decision was on booting this concert.  is
someone going to set up a tree?  a few generous people had offered to make
me a copy, but i don't want to impose on anyone without finding out about a
tree first.  however, if any of those wonderful people are reading this (or
anyone else who wants to take pity on a cable-less girl in the middle of
nowhere), i really would appreciate your help in getting a copy.  i can
send either a videotape or a check, whatever's more convenient.
thank you all so much!
anne

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date:         sat, 7 jun 1997 23:29:37 +1000
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nicole kindly reviewed:
> 19.  hey kind friend - one of my favs!  amy looked out into the audience
as
> if she was pondering some deep thought and then she says..."it's cold!"

i think:
amy should put some socks on when she is performing then she wouldn't be so
cold.
playing that rock and roll music with no shoes on - is america going to hell
in a handbasket or what?

regards,
sandy

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subject:      nigc - help with ig info please???
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ok quick question and a quick thanks.

thanks to the two people who responded to my request about sound stuff
yesterday.
it was lovely to talk with them both - both great ideas, info and voices.
lovely.

i had a major problem in the studio tonight (flood) and as a result two
tracks on
our new cd (coming out week after next with the mastering and pressing
happening
next week - not that i like to do things at the last minute or anything
:-)).

anyway one of the tracks is about obsession and i want to have some
indication
of the ig list as it is such a lovely thing and is my obsession. can anyone
suggest some way that i can indicate ig list without actually saying ig
list?
y'see i am taking this opportunity (with the rerecording) to f**k with the
original text and re-work it the way i should've in the first place.

so if you can think of a word, or a few words that do it, it would be great
to
have them. i guess something that is a kind of code, if ya know what i mean.

we are doing the fix up recordings on monday morning/afternoon - aussie time
-
which is sunday arvo for americans and canadians and sunday night for
europeans,
and monday morning early for anna in the philippines.  anyone who comes up
with
the answer gets the dubious pleasure of a free cd and a mention in the
credits.
yes i am copping out by asking someone else, but i prefer to think of it as
a
sharing caring experience :-)

thanks in advance.
sandy

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good morning ya'll!  sorry if i babbled on my last note...it was 2:30...
well, i just checked my vcr and it didn't tape!!!  help!  the tree idea
sounded good!  any thoughts/comments/initiative?
i'm off to mope and eat lots of chocolate!

ruthie ;~-(

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from:         mark anthony donajkowski <madonajk@alpha.delta.edu>
subject:      an offer of a tape
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alright im making a offer here i just recieved a tape of various girls
clips from like david lettermen and the like i havent watched the whole
thing but the first clip is them on lettermen for nomads saints and
indians heres my offer
to the first person who can supply me with a copy of each of the following
tapes ill send a copy of this out
1 the pay per view that just aired i want the whole 3 hours including
opening acts first person who will send me a copy of it will get a copy of
the clip tape
2 jesus christ superstar with the girls sorry i really cant afford to buy
this id love to but im poor so as above you copy it and send it to me ill
send u a copy of the clip tape  no flames please
why am i not tape treeing this a couple of reasons
1 im ging to az next week hopefully (so if any listeess wanna meet me let
me know ill be in pheonix)
2 a friend will be copying these for me so i cant produce enough seeds
plus im real busy course now the 2 folks who answer this leter first tree
it off email me off the list folks thanks
hugs anthony van pyre

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hey kind friends,

i received this today and thought that it was something that was really
important to pass on. please don't flame me too harshly if you think it is
inappropriate, but i figured a&e would at least approve of helping to
educate people about the far-reaching policy decisions that are made in
washington that sometimes you don't even hear about on the news. if you
have the time, please read through the following and see how you can very
easily learn more about this up-coming supreme court decision. thanks so
much for taking the time to get involved!

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a decision in the monumental internet free speech case is expected soon

       join tens of thousands of your fellow internet users to
                announce the decision in real time

                 will online free speech survive?


         please distribute this alert intact until july 15, 1997
               citizens internet empowerment coalition
                        http://www.ciec.org

________________________________________________________________________
supreme court set to rule any day now in cda case

the future of the internet and the fate of the first amendment in the
information age hang in the balance.

within the next 4 weeks, the united states supreme court will hand down an
historic decision in the legal challenge to the communications decency act
(cda) - a law which imposes broad content regulations on the internet.

a decision could come at any time.

will the supreme court agree with a decision of a philadelphia federal court
which last year ruled the cda unconstitutional? or will the court side with
senator exon, the department of justice, the christian coalition, and other
proponents of censorship who argue that the federal government is the best
and most appropriate judge of what you should see and say online?

    as an internet user, you have a tremendous stake in the outcome.

     join tens of thousands of your fellow internet users to
                announce the decision in real time

it's not too late to become a part of history. there are several ways you
can participate -- please take a moment to read the instructions below
and join the fight for free speech online.

_______________________________________________________________________
instructions on how to participate

in anticipation of this historic event, the citizens internet
empowerment coalition have launched the "free speech vigil" campaign to
help spread the news about the case and provide an opportunity for
internet users to join the fight.  the campaign is an extension of the
highly successful "question mark" campaign previously coordinated by
the center for democracy and technology (cdt) and the voters
telecommunications watch (vtw) which drew over 10,0